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Amanda Kessel, Jim Montgomery Fired

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Amanda Kessel, Jim Montgomery Fired

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Talking about Maryland basketball does remind me when I was in college though when the big thing when the turps were in the. ACC of course was beating Duke. And I remember that we beat Duke. Once I was there before Maryland won national championship and stuff. They beat Luke wants and I remember in my dorm. Somebody celebrated by leading a couch on fire in the elevator which I thought was a modulated and very completely understandable response to beating Duke. Yeah in college. You just do those things because there was no consequence like you would just go home next investor and your mom would take you back to target and you buy a new one. It wasn't isn't that thing even in college like I remember like going the dining hall rate. And you're playing with like funny monopoly money. It's not even like real money that's there and so at night you're just like hey. Who wants to buy okay? A pizza from the dining hall and buy it with cash or have I think it was called red. Express was the name of uh-huh Maryland. Anyways we're talking about fun. Whimsical things now before we talk about horrible things because this after all is a podcast about hockey at everything. Everything hockey sucks rate. Now anyways coming up on the show a beacon of light amongst all this dire stuff in the NHL. Amanda Kessel will join. Let's talk about the USA candidate game coming up women's hockey in general and all the things that are in Amanda kessels world and then we also have headlines and stuff. But we're going to take a deep dive on in Jim Montgomery and the Board of governors stuff this week as well it's ESPN and is slow to show proper. Shall we the ice to your your podcast about about hockey featuring things to do with hockey from your friends at ESPN ESPN on ice with Shitski. And Kaplan it's espn an ice the PODCAST ESPN talks about hockey. I regulations NFL writer. And like Kaplan national importer and Greg. Where do we begin? Well let's begin in Dallas. Shall we so the second day of the Board of governors meetings lovely pebble beach each was going on on Tuesday. I was driving there and in my car. I discovered a torrent of emails that had been sent from our news desk to tell. Let me that. Jim Montgomery had been fired. This was odd to me because the Dallas Stars were in a playoff seed. Jim Montgomery had a few years left on his contract. It was a game day and the stars were scant few weeks away from playing in the cotton bowl against the national predators in the winter classic. So I said to myself pull that strange and then come to find out that it's not one of those getting fired for performance things emily. It's it's one of those getting fired for a material violation of your oath as a coach kind of things. Or what have you. Yeah and you mentioned the timing. Obviously it happened the morning after Gary Bettman implements this four point plan promises sanctions pretty much against teams. That don't report Coaches doing bad things and we all assume this has something to do with coaching abuse. We'll get into all that stuff with Ben later but it doesn't. This is a personal matter in Jim. Nill in a way that was very apparent to me that he had been coached by his legal team in. HR representatives about an hour before it went up on stage. Gave absolutely zero details He said there is no criminal. Investigation pending against Montgomery says. It has nothing implies of the team. We'll see kind of what comes of that later but He's shocked the players because when the three players who did speak spoken. Okay was Tyler Sagan Jamie Ben and Klingberg They all said they were surprised. And they couldn't believe it because Monte such a good guy so This definitely that ripples ripples than the guys. I've seen most prized of all. Was Rick Bowness who now becomes the head coach. And Gosh Charlie. He was a beacon of light. We needed on this day because he was just a simple man saying he's just a little nervous to get out there behind the bench. It's been a while. Yeah great in a an unbelievably Tough situation kind of coming out and sitting. You know this is what we do. We're professionals we press on. He found out about this whole thing. Tuesday morning apparently and was thrust into it and nailed it a very interesting thing which is to say that Rick Bowness who has previous head coaching experience in the NHL Bill is going to be the interim coach the rest of the way enter. Jack there. Yeah please no I do. I wonder if he was persuaded into that. Because the conversation we've been having now I've heard this from folks inside the NHL in the last two weeks in light of all this coaching stuff is the vetting process for hiring. A new head. Coach is going to be like unlike like we've ever seen both people and so you know you know bonus you put him on the bench. And then you get the aussies into deer due diligence. Now that's a very good point and but I also think that look the Saint Louis. Blues have poisoned the wealth. Everybody which is that. Everybody is delusional into thinking the interim coach they hire can easily lead their team to the promise land or what have you but bonuses in both is a guy that definitely has earned his bone so to speak in this league and and isn't necessarily the worst caretaker for this team going forward That said what just absolute earthquake in in Texas You know the the star started off really really poorly. They routed a form they were in the first wildcard The morning that Montgomery was fired. It was clear that they had figured out some things about themselves chiefs under his watch and an alone behold because of some personal indiscretions that whole thing gets offended I I don't know what the future future hold for the stars this year. It looked like they were very much on track under one coach and and does the rest of this. Coaching staff. Have the wherewithal to continue the direction that they were headed. Yeah to reporting notes. One of reached out to Dallas Police Department so far no police reports have come up where complaints so we know that too. I tweeted out a video audio spotify. Hey boy and it was what I what appears to be Jim. Montgomery's his last Radio Appearance Dallas. And it's a station called a ticket and I understand. They do some shows ingest and this was clearly a bit but as someone who listens to a lot of interviews with coaches coaches radio. Interviews coaches press conferences. This struck me as unusual. This is a coach in a manner. I've never heard speaking before Just listen for yourself. The questions were highly inappropriate and the fact that Montgomery played along I thought was highly inappropriate and some of the topics they mentioned and it. It just struck me as really strange behavior. I'll put it that way. It was To put it lightly the kind of interview that you would get from somebody at a tailgate gate. I think is the best way that I possibly put it was it was. It was definitely Korean g again at Board of Governors. There's a ton of renew Endo floating floating around about this situation by the title of this podcast. Maybe something concrete comes out about it. We don't know anything concrete at this point as the pod except to say that it is is unrelated to everything else that is going on in the NHL Coach and community which is kind of stunning. Yeah and just to build off the point you made up before I went on a little tangent Where do the stars go from here? It's a big question. Like there's been a lot of turnover for this franchise the last couple of years. You think of Jamie Benn now. He's on his sixth coach. It is time with stars Tyler. Sagan is now on his fourth coach with time of the Star's history and in two thousand thirteen fourteen season. And you heard Tyler. After scientists contract is big extent last summer he said Multiple Times. I hope that Jim Montgomery is my last coach because it does take a lot of transitioning adjustment like last year really big storyline for the stars. How along with taking them to adjust to Jim Montgomery style because it was so different than they had before. So I do feel for this group but I wonder you know. Maybe there's so coaching turnovers and the team can find success that maybe the answer could be higher up. We need to be looking there. And maybe turn over in the management level to turn things around at this franchise. Here's an interesting little nugget about the Dallas Stars in this situation what starts happening pretty soon For the stars that would be the filming of their behind the scenes documentary on the road to winter. Classic yes they are. They are classic team. The road to the winter classic is still very much a thing the NHL does and so they will be cameras rolling of the Dallas Stars. I don't know if they already are not. I remember for somebody mentioning that. They were scheduled to start pretty soon. We'll be behind the scenes of the capture. All of the Transitional Fund of going from one coach that was fired in disgrace race to his assistant. Coach take over an interim basis. Pretty Interesting Times Greg. I'm sure they just started the advance scouts. That's what everyone wants to get I. That's the good footage and then they'll get to the team. uh-huh Rainer South. That's exactly right. Yes robotic dramatic shots of walking and all that stuff. And then they get to the the good steph later on but Jim Montgomery's tuition Obviously the unfolding as we do the show This week but But another shocking blow to the coaching community which will get into after? We talked to Amanda Kessel about the USA. Canada revelry now joining us on the line is team. USA Star forward. Amanda Kessel and Amanda and Your rivalry series against Canada. Kicks off with a game this coming weekend in Hartford Connecticut and I just WanNa know what's your pitch for. Why fans should pay attention to this? Can't Miss Hockey I mean it's a sporting event that you can't miss but no greater sports than hockey and For us every time that we play Canada. It's playoff Austria for us. It's a really great entertaining. Actions Watch wjr so when the four Nations Cup was cancelled. Earlier this fall you actually had a joint training camp with Canada and Pittsburgh and I am dying to know how did that go. I don't know that we're joint with US but We had separate practices and ended up playing them for two games but it was really cool to be in Pittsburgh facilities. They're great host. It was treated like a pro for the week and they're just really great to to have those practices with each other then competition against Canada. That makes a Lotta sense because I was curious. What would you like sharing locker rooms and getting a drills else together? We were interested to and I know I. Can you explain to our listeners. Because I know you guys are so competitive live on the ice when you play each other. It's one of the fiercest rivalries in sports but my understanding is a lot of you have close relationships off the ice and you are pretty good friends. Is that fair to say. Yeah I would say it's like half of the team. Maybe knows like other people on the on Canada and friendly I actually don't really close anybody at this point but one of my brothers Blake. You married a Canadian that used to be on their national team so I used to you see battle against her and you guys have had a new coaching staff now. sincere Olympics. Tell me a little bit of bow out. them them and and what different styles for you guys in and how. You might look different than the last time. A lot of fans watched you in the Olympics. Yes also may have a really unique stuff right now. They're kind of all come from somewhat different background And some NHL Experience Nhl playing experience college experience or assistant coach coach. Joe Johnson. I work with him at Minnesota. We have a really great blend But your style. I think that's something right now that we're developing as a team. We WanNA play fast and and manage the puck out say and you're not playing in a professional league this year. I you're still living in New York right. Yeah Right. Can you walk our listeners. Through what your training like op centralized the team USA. How you get? I used who you train with. Is it a lot self sufficient. It is it can be a grind Sometimes I I think about it as I'm doing it so typical day for me Wake Up. I usually their PT. or I'll have workout in the morning and then I have to walk to get my car which is like twenty minutes away so I'll walk to my car in New York Life. Yeah I I sit in traffic. It's forty five to an hour or two different ranks New Jersey that I stayed out of one's like a mini rank. And the other is I'm mm-hmm Barnabus the devils practice Rena and most days and training on my own Ohio skills coach some of the day's and then other days. I'll sometimes play in like staff skates. And kinda wherever I can get my conditioning and and then drive whereas home off my twenty minutes home and I'm usually home around six PM so it's typical workday. I know this this is probably impossible but if you could estimate out of pocket how much money you've had to spend just to keep yourself as a high level professional level athlete. What do you think it is this year? Well I have no idea Thousand Dollars I I I would say somewhere between five to ten granted. I don't really have a great estimate on the which is about your salary salary that you got to the end whol correct. Yeah planes especially now that we're a couple months and now And you know the dust has settled a little bit of so many players sitting out for the League. How confident are you that next year there could be that viable professional league? That you guys are all fighting for at this point. I'm really not sure It's something that we're continually talking. `Bout in hoping that something can come together but really we want it. It's be done the right way right from the beginning. Don't just WANNA have a league thrown together and try and piece you sit together along the way we want it to really be a struggling from the beginning. How active have you been behind the scenes meeting with folks folks and Being part of the leadership group as active as I can Always available for talks. And I've I've been to some meetings and things that as a national team that's really important to us because one someday we're GONNA end up leaving the game and We WanNA leave in a better spot than we came into it not something. That's super important to us. And we know how the grind it is daily basis for us to keep up our game. That's just unfortunate that that's the situation. We're in right now now. It doesn't feel like super long ago and twenty seventeen When the team was fighting against USA hockey for new contract and more equitable conditions but a significant amount of time has passed? And I'm curious. Have you seen improvements in the way you guys are treated and marketed by US hockey. Yeah I definitely great things. Are there improvements. And there was a lot of acknowledgement that things needed to be better and it definitely has helped us. It's just off going through it. All still evident how much farther we have to go but it's really a great start start and Lines of communication between players and staff within. USA Hockey is so much better after working through all of that it met with a limo twins in one of the things explained to me was that maternity benefits were offered for the first time that deal which was really interesting to me? Is there any other things that you feel like you guys have now that maybe you didn't have before It's mostly just a matter of a salary salary being able to like train. How we want to Before it was very very very very difficult to train full time everybody pretty much had to have some kind of part time job. I'm side because he just couldn't even afford to live and living very scarcely and I know that you've been working with New York Rangers as an ambassador specifically with their junior junior hockey programs. Tell me a little bit about the stuff you're doing with them. Yeah that's been an awesome opportunity for me. And just what they are doing. As a program I think at the forefront we started a women's League for young girls it was actually from age. Eleven to fourteen. There's two ten week season for them so there was a bunch of try hockey for free events. Trying to get girls Dell's into the sport that once had access for and couldn't afford it at those events there's like equipment provided and just give girl a start and then having the league allows them to continue playing so it was really really cool like few weeks. I went to a lot of the girls first is game ever and they're eleven twelve thirteen fourteen years old and this is our first hockey game and you know I got a letter From one of the girls saying and she couldn't afford ever play hockey before and does just like a dream come true to her and it was really touching to be there and see how excited these girls where to to play in a hockey game even if they were just learning to skate. It's awesome for you. You know at this point in your career. Have you said that some personal goals either. Maybe I WANNA make one more Olympics or two more Olympics. I WANNA play till I'm extra age. Yeah I think thinks that the biggest schools right now would be to playing another Olympics. And then tell start a professional league that you know a mother hopefully someday and I'm looking at the roster for this USA rivalry series stories. And it's a lot of familiar names but there are some younger players so I feel like you've kind of jumped onto the scene lately like Kayla. Barnes may be Danny camera can never pronounce her name. Is there any a younger players that you think that fans should look out for an will totally be household names by the next Olympics Cycle. Yeah there's really young talent right. Now these are forties tryouts. There's forty six of us and then they'll be cutting down to twenty three with our players fool keeps getting deeper and deeper. And there's a lot of young talent coming out so you said Danny's Camoranesi's younger player that always stands out Kayla Barnes exist us that defenseman and Megan Keller that defenseman. This is the last thing for you. Amanda I don't know if you know this but your kvas actually appears on this podcast every week We have a segment we call it fell castle. It's hot dogs and the segment where we talk about the stupidest story of the week. And it's an old story about your brother and we cooperate your voice. It says he doesn't actually love hotdogs so I I can't either I. I think it was something on social media. I saw twitter. Maybe the penguins did it. Maybe was yeah number saying that but I don't know where you know what's funny is that I talked to his coach for chocolate and that was like one of the first things he wanted to mention to me. He's like he doesn't even like hotdogs. Noted did but I have to ask you know with your brother there's so many It seems like legends. People want to make about him. He doesn't really love talking to the media so people kinda create their own stories stories. What something people might not know about him off the ice though? That is true I think just said he's really down to Earth guys. He doesn't obviously likes the attention and and really want to be in the media but as friend he'll do new and brother he'll do anything for anyone that needs it. You think of an example of some time he went above and beyond for you. I just think of him as a softy Just a small little story I remember. I can't even remember where we were. It was me and my brothers and my cousins. And you're just like going across the street and run across the sidewalk and he like just put his arm out like in people. Were trying to run because it was like a green light or whatever it was always just seems to be like the character. I love it. Thank you so much a work in fans follow you on social media. And how can they want the rivalry series games. Follow me. atomatic hustled twenty eight and Graham and twitter and the Ravioli serious Playing obviously at the Excel Centre on Saturday Eh but all along with hockey on instagram and twitter. Well thanks thanks for having me. Your home is important. That's why GEICO helps make it easy to save on Homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you curl up on the couch in a fetal position and cry at cheesy movies. Even now. You've seen them a thousand times and have all the lines memorized. You and also you with me and you. The GEICO Insurance Agency can help protect tearful comfort zone. You call on call Gyco in see how easy it is to switch and save on Homeowner's insurance all right thanks to Amanda Kessel for joining us on ESPN and is a favourite. As you mentioned. Emily a weekly focus of this podcast because she does appear in. The forecast loves hotdogs. Under boy I love telling her that but I really didn't love her reaction because she sounded really creeped down really questioning choices right now and speaking of questioning their choices the NHL coaches community was in focus at the Puerta governors meeting a two day meeting a pebble beach the first day. Of course a lot auto news was made about the. NHL's reaction to the resignation of Bill. Peters and the Calgary flames to the administrative leave From uh of from Mark Crawford with the Blackhawks and of course. The abuse allegations came Mike Babcock's way after he was fired. Toronto and the end result. Emily is a four point plan for fixing everything from the National Hockey League. I so you are on the scene and so I kind of want to treat this as me asking you questions please. What the Heck Gary Bettman comes out? And everyone's expecting there to be a code of conduct right then tells you only of the four professional major leagues. That doesn't the Democrat conduct. It seems like the logical response to all of this and he's got to tell you guys about a hotline. What does everyone kind of thinking? And saying it's Maybe noted a hockey fan draken man the hotline the hotline blowing. If you will the players would actually call because I have a lot of well well okay. So Code of conduct the first issue there is that it is university universally acknowledged in the NHL. Right now that Bill Peters at racism very easy call Bill Peters and kicking players there's Mark Crawford allegedly kicking players and choking players bad easy call verbal abuse of players. Mind Games played by coaches to motivate guys as Brendan Shanahan himself mentioned On Tuesday there is a lot of gray area and no one one. Is Those for sure where to draw the lines as far as what it should be allowed. And what shouldn't And in some cases you have situations were a coach. Says something that one guy sees as the perfect motivation to make him a better player or a better person and another guy sees abject abuse so it becomes comes kind of unclear where to draw those lines that I think that's why the NHL and Gary Bettman didn't walk into that meeting looking to create a specific code of conduct. But Gary Bettman did walk into that meeting expecting to do was to come out with a four point plan There is no debate and Gary World. There is merely discussion of what Gary is going to do. And so we walk out with the four point zero point one. Emily is that any team. There will be a zero tolerance policy for teams that. Do not report these incidences with coaches abuse to the NHL. Oh and by that. We mean actually physically call either Batman or Bill Daley to tell them what's up personally I see this as a The let's not get caught with their pants down amendment I really have no what the NHL will do if somebody calls them to tell them that there is an incident and because the NHL famously is for lack of a better term a states rights league it is a hey teams handle your stuff so we we don't have to. We'll put out a strongly worded statement about it but ultimately it will be your decision on what to do with this person. I found some kind of irony in in Gary Bettman visualizing for all of us and painting the future that he wants to the NFL and saying we're GonNa know everything and we need to control of everything and then what's the update on Mark Crawford. Well the Blackhawks are handling. It looks really weird juxtaposition right point. Two of the four point plan was that Coaches who do a dabble in the dark arts of abuse will be punished severely by the NHL According to Bettman This obviously after the team investigations go through Bettman. Did say made some news by saying it. That didn't really get a lot of play that there still is an investigation going living on both Bill Peters and the Carolina hurricanes former GM. Ron Francis is former owner. Peter Karmanos to figure out what exactly happened there. I love to subtle shout out to by the way Tom Dandan awesome. Did nothing wrong. None of this happened under done. Yeah it was weird because Sunday. What doesn't want Dunton was not at the governor's meeting which I thought was interesting? Maybe he had a conflict but it was very specific to say that this was the old regime that did it But yeah it's still looking into the Ron Francis situation. I spoke with Todai Wicky. The president visited Seattle team. Were Francis now. The general manager lie wicky obviously standing by as general manager and the did offer really any other comments beyond that I think he's been lowered. HR upscale because it's your and Francis put out a statement through the NHL to which was an interesting move if you remember that. So that was point. Two coaches you abuse. Their players will be handled swiftly and severely by the National Hockey League but hopefully they won't abuse their players. Thanks the points point three of our plan. Emily which is the educational component the. NHL will have an annual educational seminar of some sort for any coach assistant coach General Manager Assistant General Manager. Whatever if you're under any shell contract and you're in a position of power you're going to required to take this training to teach him more about diversity and inclusiveness In order to make sure that you are acting appropriately To a to everyone that you are in charge of managing and then on top of that Kim Davis the NHL Executive Vice President for diversity. I don't really know the full title. But that's basically the gist of it. We'll be putting together a special counsel to studies these programs the study these issues and to recommend things going forward as well when we hear about the training program. I have two thoughts one I can think of every. Nhl Coach that I know or GM just rolling their eyes and saying like really we. We have to sit through that and to I think of I hope that it's actually beneficial in an in person and I understand. They're kind of pointing this out to a third party so which is probably probably good. Because I'm not sure anyone in the NHL qualified quite frankly to run this but is it going to be like the training that we have to take Espn Disney online. Learning those things that we have take every three months at obviously greg united studying medicine quite into our emails and P- and the way we operate but I can't say that something I look forward to doing something something I'm highly engaged in. It's going to go one of three ways. It's either online learning course which might be the way it goes because these guys are all spread out across the country. It'll it'll be a thing where they actually have to go to a room and then watch some sort of like several video presentations with a a seminar facilitator like when we went to. We both got hired tired and had to go to orientation. I'm sorry video rookie camp and I apologize. Orientated must have been when I got hired at Burger King in high school or it's going to be something that it probably should be which is to actually have human beings affected by abuse and and racial slurs and homophobic. Slurs have them stand in in front of these guys and let them know exactly why it shouldn't happen like that'd be the most effective thing and maybe that's the way they go but most likely it'll be for the next sixty minutes. You're going to watch this video on your computer and answer some very easy trivia questions about what you just watched probably. That's the way it goes point. Four of the button plan the hotline. The our mentioned hotline Bam the Kaplan so the hotline or egg they hedged on where we've been calling it a hotline. Maybe it's it's GonNa be a thing where you can send something through a prompt on your computer. I don't know what book for all purposes it's a whistle blower hotline. It is going to be a place. Four players current and illeg ex players trainers Support staff anybody that witnesses or experiences. Abusive behavior behavior by a team official will be able to go to the hotline reporter anonymously or put their name to it if they want to and then the end of the NHL will investigate get the claims against individuals that are that are accused of abuse. What was your reaction Emily when you heard about the hotline? I think all of this combined to quote the Great Hockey Movie Slap Shot. They got the spirit of the thing right. They understood the essence of why people what were so upset. Why people were so disturbed by people are so disappointed in the league And when it comes to the hotline they understand that players. Don't WanNA come for themselves. In fact many need them haven't but they also kind of missed. I think a point where a lot of these accusations were getting aren't exactly direct You know the ones against Mark Mark Crawford as you pointed out on outside the lines today like one was bred Sopol and he backtracked on a he was telling his story and then he was like I was the only time that story to be entertaining. Like I didn't actually think get affected me. Like Patrick. O'Sullivan is okay I'm tweeting this but I've already put it in my book like I kind of tried to let people know and now I just have to go directly Kema Lou. Do you know kind of tweeted the back end all this is to say like in the Johan Franson stuff only came up because Chris Chellios brought it up. All the guys just aren't comfortable coming coming out themselves and saying it and fear that on a current team players look at the situation. Say Okay you're going to grant me a nonentity. I can never say that word I it did. I had the same problem with the word. Phenomenal phenomenal opportunity to nominate on. It's easy anyway the okay. They're granting getting me You guys don't make fun of me later but then it's clearly going to come back to me like everyone in the room saw what happened. They're going to know it's me and the coach is going to know it's me and a third party way and like who's GonNa WanNa do that. I just I just find a lot of laws. That's the issue. I asked straight up up like is there going to be some whistle blower protection component to this thing because if you remember the Akina Lou situation after he went to his team and went to the Blackhawks organization with the the racial slur. Stuff with Peters. Peter did or attempted to get him demoted to the E. C. H.. Show from the age. There's some thing fuzziness. It has never come up by the way. We're initially said that there was a letter to Bowman and McDonough and we've never heard of that letter again. Well that's because the blackhawks tonight but anyways so the point being is that there is even if it's not getting demoted it is lack of playing. Yeah Reduction Reduction of ice time. It's it's a different role on the team. It's getting bag skated more than other guys like. There's any number of ways a coach could take retribution on a player that he knows snitched on him and asked bet that I'm like is there. Whistleblower protection on this on this hotline business and he said well the protection is the anonymity unlike but now that's not the protection protectionist league saying if you try to take retribution against the player that levies and accusation against the coach. Then you're going to get severe viewer punishment for like that's was prediction. Now keep in mind. I think the issue is it so hard to prove that because like you said it's a new on it can be. It is very new one second to third line to motion. So you put it out there intimidation right you put it out there so as a deterrent. You you say listen. We know that there's the possibility of this. Let it be known if you do it. There's going to be an issue now. I I'll plead ignorance here. They there may be some things in federal labor law that already protect. NHL Players. That do this. Yes that's a possibility but for the leak if you're GONNA do a hotline and say hey players that currently don't WanNa go the PA or the NHL with these things and and are dropping accusations on twitter because they know that these organizations are completely ineffective when it comes to policing the players and abuse. Hey guys this you know. Drop your dollars on this hotline. And we'll take care of you. It's a real easy thing to do but they didn't do it. I don't understand why. So there's there's the four four point plan like you said an A. for effort we'll see how the execution works but the very least acknowledgement that all of the stuff that's been going on needed to be addressed correct and honestly I saw he said you asked about women's hockey and Gary said they didn't talk about it at all like I'm glad they tabled everything for for now like this is what these meetings should be about is attacking the urgent issues. That the League right now. What more thing on this before we get to other segments Brendan Shanahan spoke for the first time on Tuesday? Since so Shanahan spoke the day babcock got fired. If you're a member he actually flew to Arizona Dona and had a little press suare with kyle dubious but he hasn't spoken since then since. Then we've had. The Babcock made made bitch martyr list. All of his teammates based on how much effort they give then gave that list to the guys who finished last. We had Johan Franson confirming the Verbal abuse of Mike Babcock to the point reenter. Nervous breakdown of the bench was afraid to come to the arena Every day because of how horrible babcock was to him and the news out of the Shanahan stuff today was one he stands with friends and says I believe him. I believe that those were his experiences with Babcock and to said you nope came forth and said hey look what bad Crockett with monir it was reported or GM which was reported to me it was completely inappropriate. But when asked what you'd you'd say to a team that comes to you and says Hey Brendan Shanahan president of the Maple leafs. I'm thinking about hiring your ex coach. What would you say about that? He said I don't WanNA deal in hypotheticals. That was very good. He knows no one calling them. Yeah it's true. Maybe I don't know but like no McConnell suit interesting one and it was also interesting to hear Shanahan be pretty candid about the fact that like. Hey listen we were playing there. Were things done to us. And he didn't say we didn't know at the time they were bad. He said that it was it wasn't in sort of the culture. Sure to come forward with these things which I thought was very interesting answer and kind of the opposite of what you hear from a lot of guys that are old school that are looking at this stuff often saying well you know it used to be okayed it kick a guy in the back on the bench. It was Shanahan basically saying hey we see a lot of this was wrong and it just wasn't part tired of the deal to come forward with these accusations back then but maybe it is now. Is that just a illustrate how Shanahan is really an old school guy. Like the fact he doesn't speak it's the media that often anymore like there's a little inside baseball but he feels like he was burned after those comments he made during me lenders hold out whereas like me and my teammates always took less than we never regret it like such an old school mentality because of that. That's why we don't see him very much. Honestly Shanahan has a thankless job. He's in there just to use the guy who has to fire people he's George Clooney and Movie with Anna Kendrick. That was so good up in the air when he has to fly around and fire people all right. Now it's time for one of our favorite segments of the week dogs. Now he does. He's not love to eat hot dog and straightened areas immediately. Good hotdogs it's the segment every every week. We take a look at the hockey media The foibles of the hockey the her Piper Hockey media and the mistakes that are made. I always screw up. Brett's last name I'm GonNa say it's Brett Stir Gallup's anonymity New York Post I know Brett I like Brett But Brett wrote a piece that deserves Phil. Kessel loves hotdogs status this past week headline of the article devils PK. Sue Ban is marketing everything thing except his own game now. Here's the thing about PK. Sue Band folks. He's been horrible. This season really bad as we pointed out on the video we did for the power rankings. This week coming into the game against Dallas. PK Sudan was on on on track for a fourteen point season. Fourteen points. What the Keita's Zaitsev put up last year? Fourteen boys WH- Calvin Dahan put up last year So a horrible season piquet but Brit kind of takes to task for doing promotional work while the devils are Are horrible quote. It is amazing that he has time to practice and play games with all the time you spend posting on social media. They must let him keep his on the bench quote a Wednesday a day after John Heinz was fired following a efforts in a four. Nothing lost to the Rangers at home and a seven one thumping coming up in buffalo sue ban was at Bryant Park doing an appearance or Red Bull. The press release said he was the the twenty to twenty one. Oh three James Norris this memorial trophy winner. Entrepreneur philanthropist on Thursday night he was at the Adidas flagship store in Manhattan would a great way to get ready for a big back to back under your new coach. Now I'll admit the PK. Sue Bank. Could probably post last instagram when the team is this bad but I will say this though in his defense you know how long a red bull event in Bryant Park as planned data how long an appearance that the Adidas stores rive and planned when these things are set up with. PK's marketing firm okay. They don't know the devils are going to be horrible. They don't know they're going to be a tire. Fire Okay so it's not a situation where. PK Sue Bank limping home after the devil loose seven to one to buffalo. And he's like Oh what can I take. What could take my mind off things? Oh I know I'll call all adidas and see if I could do it in store. No these things are sort of wave before him and it's not his fault that devils are horrible and it's bad optics. The irony I see here is like this. Is such tired thing like we heard Montreal Canadian mark. It'll be finding national. We Nashville for like. Oh it'll be fine. That's just like other mark like wait till he gets the New York media. It'll be fine and we're still getting these takes that are just like I blew. Now it's time I'm for a PUCK. Headlines Dateline World Cup Gary Bettman Says No World Cup February twenty twenty one as the NHL. Shell does not have time to set this thing up so for the second time the World Cup gets bumped because of the ongoing. CVA talks the players where it is that the NHL in the NHLPA LPGA are targeting. Either Twenty Twenty sorry are targeting twenty twenty four and twenty twenty eight for the next events of the World Cup of hockey which means emily quite. Interestingly they are not targeting either September twenty twenty two or February twenty twenty two may have because the Olympics are in that neighborhood. I wonder if you know that's something that's still being negotiated upon the NHL NHL PA that H. L. P. is like all right you can go announce us like just. Don't say anything about twenty twenty two. We shall see I. I'm still very skeptical about them going to Beijing because the needs needs to get their act together and I have no faith in the single most corrupt and horrible organization the on the planet for sports that they can get their act together but we shall see obviously. China is a much more attractive destination for the Olympics than the previous reviews one for the NHL. Dateline Alex Ovechkin lovie tells our own Linda Cohn what will happen if he breaks. Wayne Gretzky's record for goals quote. You Probably Never GonNa see me on the ice again. Yeah Reddaway Sia. He says of his instant retirement retirement. If he breaks Wayne Gretzky's goals record. First of all I don't believe him I think Ovechkin is probably gonNA play until he's fifty but that would be the single of for a man who came into the League as the biggest Rockstar we had ever seen especially in comparison to Sidney crosby. Nothing could be more rockstar than just dropping the Mike and walking away especially if it's mid period like that my first thought is like okay. What did you score those four minutes into the second you know? The haskell Haskell is whatever happens they stop it they get the puck and then he's like by goes to the bench goes it'd be the best Dateline New England. The Patriots are yet again embroiled in another potential cheating scandal involving filming joining the opposing side. Line many of you believe maybe they are. 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Dec. 12, 2019: Definitely Not The Bored Of Governors Meetings

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Dec. 12, 2019: Definitely Not The Bored Of Governors Meetings

"I got to tell you I could be a disaster on this particular one. I took the red eye last night from San Francisco so I landed at seven ten this morning. Mostly blog was done but I finished it when I got home. I feel no pain right now. I what is your shirt. Say to your job where my Patriot shirt material. ACT OF UNPROFESSIONAL conduct. Elliot Friedman the Jim Montgomery story is dominating headlines As we record this podcast on Wednesday afternoon by the time this comes out there may be more shoes to drop who knows this continues to be an evolving story in Dallas and certainly elsewhere in the NHL. From what you've been able to gather and piece together. How did we get to yesterday and that press US conference From Jim nill where he was as forthcoming as he was prepared to be some things that obviously he did not want to discuss discuss probably out of respect for Jim Montgomery and his family And also for whoever brought it to their attention correct but this one was a a shocker. For just about everybody. Does that include you. Oh Yeah I mean. Nobody saw this on the radar. And and when you go back I think about that. Press Conference on Monday night and like I'll tell the story that doesn't press conference. I'll tell a story and I was mad. Ed Myself a bit for messing this up. When I was still at the score there was one year the score had the rights to the NBA draft and it was the draft? Where the raptors talk Vince? Carter and on the same day. They traded Marcus Camby to the Knicks for Charles Oakley and I got the scoop earlier in the day that they were trading can be for Oakley and I called his name. Was John Lash Way. He was the media relations guy for the raptors at the time and John was very good to deal with. It still is but right you know back then in that job. He was very good to deal with and I asked him. Have you. Guys Traded Camby for Oakley and he paused and and he said No. We haven't now. I reported that day in this was the pre twitter days but I reported on the score that they were talking about it. It could happen and later on that night after the draft. They announced that they had made the deal. And John Pulled me aside and he gave me a very. Are we good tip. I must've been about twenty seven twenty eight years old at the time. He said you asked me. If we traded Oakley for Camby at that moment I could tell you the answer was no but if you would ask me are you talking about trading Oakley for Camby. I probably probably would have had to give you a no comment or some different answer privately. And so I've always been careful about the nuance of asking questions since since then so Monday night. There's the pressure of the Board of governors and there was a rumor going around that there was another other coach that we weren't aware of who is under investigation and it wasn't Montgomery Montgomery wasn't the name I heard and I will say to this before everybody. He starts wondering about who it was. It turns out that this particular rumor was not true but at the time I heard it so when when Batman and daily were doing their press conference. I can't remember what I asked them. I asked them in a way that said that too. You're supposed to identify yourself so I guess. How are you anywhere anything's under investigation solution? Now we don't know about as separately you know for previous leader there something. That's more a decade goals so relevant today and I looked at it. That man looks at daily daily things for second and he says no the answer is I suppose everything is relevant to what degree has to be determined. I don't know what you're doing don't know but I'm not aware of anything thing. That's being reviewed that isn't already public. I think that's true now with what we know if I had asked. Is there any other coach under investigation. I wonder what they would have said I as a lesson. Don't be specific. Open eight with a roller not a Bra. Yes as a lawyer. There's a lot of lawyers at the Board of governors meetings. As the lawyer told me later I gave them an out right. I gave them out now. He said they probably wouldn't never giving you the exact answer anyway but they might have given you something that made you believe on comment on any ongoing. Yes I mean so ah where we shocked absolutely. We were shocked. I think everybody was shocked. But I'll tell you this. The Stars believe they have an airtight case. Right and that's why it happened so quickly like normally situation like this. There is a You know he is Suspended pending investigation etc walked away from the team briefly while we I do this investigation and we will lawyer this and come up with our decision at a later date. This all happened fast. Jim nill talked about getting a phone call on Sunday. And then all of a sudden they're we are on Tuesday and everyone's scrambling to get you know streams together. I'm on hockey central right away. We got to carry this gym. No press conference is going to be huge. Everyone's scrambles because inside of forty eight hours. Jim Montgomery is now acts. Head coach of the Dallas Stars. It was determined that there was a material active unprofessionalism contrary to the values in standards held by the Dallas Stars Organization. It has very clear disconnect be tolerated and therefore we have relieved Jemma gummy of his duties. Immediately this was done fast. So what what does that tell you. Well what it tells me and I do believe this based on what I've been told as they had the evidence they had was airtight. The documentation they had was airtight. And as I put my notes yesterday they fired him for 'cause so he had two and a half years left on his contract and they terminated it now oh he could bring his own lawyers to try to dispute that he may but from what I understand Dallas things they have a heck of a case and you know. There's no way that they did this without the expressed written consent of the National Hockey League. And it's fast. I mean it was faster than the Peter's investigation took the Crawford. Investigation is over a week old as we tape this. So that's still going as we know in this day and age if you move that quickly You think so you've really got. It does the fact that we haven't heard anything again. As we record this on Wednesday afternoon does the fact that we haven't heard from Jim Montgomery at all through all of this indicate anything to us. I think that's unfair to say number. One sometimes silences a better thing number two. Just imagine the upheaval in his life. You saw so Jim nill tells everybody he finds sewn on. The Monday are on the Sunday and on the Monday. If you saw Jim Montgomery's Emory's availability in Dallas with the reporters either. He's the greatest actor in the history of mankind or he had no idea what was going on around them and and I'm much more likely to believe it's be if were shocked upon seeing that tweet on Tuesday morning imagine what he's going through living his life going back to his family's got four children. Your life is completely torpedoed and it. It was fast so you know first of all is probably lawyered up number two. He's probably dealing with his family. You know number number three. You're in shock. I'm not surprised he hasn't spoken at all. Jim Did say this. Press Conference on Tuesday that this had nothing to do with again. This goes back to the Board of Governors press conference the four point plan and the new code of conduct that this would have happened regardless whether this came out or not. It just happened to be a coincidence. Sometimes listen the cynical part of me looks at coincidences and I say you know quite cynically. You know what they say about coincidences. They take a long time to plan But when it comes to this one I am closer to believing Jim Nelson being cynical jeff from what I understand and it's not racial allegations. It's not abuse. I don't think they hide this stuff anymore. It's personal behavior savior when you say they can't hide this stuff anymore. Do you think that at a different time. And maybe not that far in the past that this would have been covered up or hushed away. I think it depends on. How much of a pattern of behavior there was see? This is a little bit of dangerous territory and I'M NOT GONNA wait too much into to it. Jim Montgomery had a reputation as a great coach. Really smart he had his principles. Like when you got hired in Dallas it was the seven things you gotta do to win And he used them everywhere. Use them in the US Ahl use them in the NC Double A.. Denver he started with them in the NHL. He modified them. I'm from time to time. But he has principles and you talk to them and he was a good coach and offensive players. Really Thrive for him. And that's one of the interesting things about Dallas. Alice was one of the reasons they brought him. There was because offensive players thrive for him and still during his tenure. Even those record was very good. They had their battles adults with Ben and Sagan from time to time but nobody ever questioned his coaching. I think the only thing that anyone ever questioned about him was you know he likes to have fun in life now. Here's why I'm so careful with this stuff. I like to have fun in life okay. I'm no no angel but I don't believe I've ever crossed the line. At least I hope I never have tried to treat people respectfully and I understand understand that I cannot let it affect my job. Do Your job. You can't affect your job and you can't let it affect your family so I it's very difficult for me. It always has been very difficult for me to pass judgment on other people who liked to have a good time but I do know in his particular case. It scared off or concern some people about him coaching at the NHL level does any of this. And I'm Jim know was asked about this and he said yet does does any of this to you. Reflect on Jim Nill. This is Jim nils higher. He was asked about this at the press conference offer. Yeah Jim This was your higher. This was your guy. How do you think this reflects upon you? And then I imagine. Imagine you're just level of disappointment in how this great question it is my heart and I get back to when you you do these things the important thing is doing the right thing and unfortunately Jim was my higher. And but every instant every time you do something my job. I'm on the leadership of this team and it's important the things we had to do the right thing in the situation. First of all I think Jim Nill is a really stand up guy whether you agree or disagree with the Muzy. Does he makes I think he's a person he's A. He's a really stand up person. Every interaction I've ever had with Jim nell betrays that. Yes a complete standup guy. He's a stand up guy agree or disagree. I think he's a person of real principle and so I wouldn't have expected any different answer he believes in I'm in charge. And the buck stops with me. The and I'll take responsibility for what I have to take responsibility for. I think yes at the end of the day. Like you're responsible for hiring so if a problem comes with that you have to wear it but I think at the end of the day they made the change. If it doesn't go well it's worse for him if it does go. Well he's probably okay. I mean if you take a look at the long history like I was look a person's body of work in terms of of a resume when you look back. Jim Nils career. How long has he been hockey for forty years for the longest time? What do we always say but Jim Nill he's the best and gm not doing that job? h all right now because he was part of that cabal with When you look at his history is there anything that you look at it and say boy? He's got a lot of problems no. I don't think you do so again. You can disagree with his moves but I think as a person and he's a pretty stand up guy. He's got a good reputation. I think if you make a litany of mistakes you've got a problem doesn't sound like he's made the litany of mistakes so what's next for Dallas. Rick bowness comes in the term Yoshi interesting enough on Tuesday night. It's The Battle of two interim head coach is a Dallas Stars. The New Jersey Devils and Rick Bowness Nezar Dean. We'll get him a little bit later on the podcast. But what's next for the Dallas Stars. I mean this is just rocked them and they were forced I into action and removing Jim Monk Army in Rick bonuses an interim but what is Jim Nill do now does he ride to the end of the season with the interim head coach will say that and to the end of the season. Yeah that that's the difference between Calgary and Dallas. Calgary hasn't officially promoted six Jeff Ward for the end of the year right. He did say at the media conference the planners for bonus to finish the season. Now here's why I ask ask that and why that feels weird to me. Rick bowness hasn't been a head coach in a long two thousand and four. His last win rate was April the fourth two thousand and four John Shannon are former compatriot He tweeted out last night. It was like five thousand seven hundred and three days since his last Win so I look at the New Jersey devils and I say Beret Shero you can leave. Elaine Ezra Dean in that position this is just one of those years where everything has gone wrong for the New Jersey devils there. Aren't the playoff aspirations. There that there are for the Dallas Stars. Hey Dallas release. People pick them to win. The Standard of there is a much different expectation for the Dallas Stars. This season which is why I would look at that and say hold on a second here with all due respect to Rick bowness. If superstar coach ex becomes available Dallas is GonNa try the fill that role fill that position. This is a team that you look at the moves in the offseason. Joe Pavelski comes. This is a team that it loaded up and we still believe is planning on loading up for a playoff run. Well that's the way I look at it Jeff like I think that's one of the reasons. Why Calgary hasn't told Jeff Ward that he's in for the the rest of the year officially first of all just went through a traumatic situation? That was not of their own doing and I think they just said to him. Look the job is yours for so now but we don't WanNa make you a promise in the middle of all this craziness that we can't keep and I respect that. I just think that if you're nil and your Dallas you really believe that you'd have enough upheavals it is and you can always say in the future. Our plan was to give bonus the job and if you change Gitte plans change. What's the joke we use you plan? God bless your grandma rates the one thing I will say Oh bonuses. This is a guy who wanted one more chance. He's coached more games than anybody else right. It's a remarkable stat. He's an assistant coach. Everybody wants him when he got let go in Tampa Teams were lining up to get him even before he went to Tampa teams. Were lining up to get him. He's a bit of a hard ass but he's got a good reputation. Really these smart and I do know this he wanted. Nobody wants it like this but he wanted the opportunity to be a head coach again he really wanted. Did we know we talked about it once. You know he said to me I would really love one more crack at this. I think I'm I'm older more mature now. I think I've experienced a lot more and also don't forget. Some of the situations he went in Ottawa. Expansion Phoenix interim you know he got fired and Boston. After having a winning record I mean he got some tough spots so I know that even though it happened in a far from ideal manner this opportunity means damn in two thousand sixteen the Stanley Cup final in San Jose Anaheim's higher came. Came down to Randy Carlyle Travis. Green and bonus and Bob Murray went with Carlisle but he did say after that Green and bonus made it very difficult on him. Anything to add that we've left out. I'm Jim Montgomery before I move on. And then you want to say about it I just you know he's got four kids. Jefford Dad's now. Oh Yeah I see situations like this I always think about you know what if that was me I think about this a lot there by the grace of God go I and You know I think about what would happen if I ever put my family through. God forbid did something like that and I always feel I always think about the kids will move on You've been a busy guy. read is logs podcasts costs. TV tonight with me. Burke which I know. You're very much looking forward to L. Tight with the Board of governors meeting here on Three thoughts the podcast brought to you by. GMC Sierra Red Sox Fan now the last forty five minutes. The San Jose Sharks decided fired their head coach Sports Director Dennis with Donald joins us now with this big shakeup happening. And that's making. The playoffs is not not good enough. breaking news down San Jose Pete to bore led the shark to the only Stanley Cup appearance. He's made the playoffs in each of its four seasons but the here hasn't been good enough and he was fired within the past hour. Now Sharks Win win lists on their recent four game road trip to drop below five hundred for the season there now six in the Pacific Division program to bring you a message okay. This is starting to happen now with with alarming frequency. Here we are once. Again Elliott a couple of moments after Scotiabank Wednesday night hockey Ben Shapiro with the OT winner. Montreal defeats the Ottawa. Senators at the Bell Centre. It is ten forty one eastern. We're sitting across from each other and our producer Amel Delic why because they coach has been dismissed. Yes once again. This has become Franken pod. We're starting the podcast with another insert peters out as head coach of the San Jose Sharks in in is Bob Buchner as N.. In term head coach first of all let me just say I'm going to be really happy when the technology exists that podcast recording equipment is stapled to our bodies and you can just organically turn it on and say we're updating the POD. We will have a conversation Wendy the United Kurzweil and these singularity but until then. Let's focus on hockey so I didn't know of San Jose was going to actually do do this. We suspected I wondered. I suspect is the wrong word. I wondered if they would do this. I'm a big believer. You're in the. Surest predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Doug Wilson's past behavior. He'd never fired a cogen season. He's stock stock with his two previous coaches Ron Wilson Todd McClellan longer and through things that other GM's might not have done San. Jose started this bad this year. The calls were He went out and he got Patrick Marlowe they looked like they righted the ship that big win in Arizona a couple of weeks ago they were down to nothing they came back they were in a playoff position and then they go on this road trip and it was ugly. The problem with San Jose is not the coach. The goalies haven't done their job. The mix with the PA- Veliky Change. Brian Burke talked talked about on air. A couple of times on Wednesday night. The chemistry isn't there debord been successful. They're constant playoff threat Stanley Cup. Final in two thousand six second most playoff games and second most playoff wins last year western conference final last season with not great. Goaltending did a great coaching job. I just think it came down to. What's yours change you've already brought in Marlow? What can you trade? This is your move. How much of this is made? Or how much do you think this made is influenced inspire the fact that they don't own their first round draft pick and Ottawa. I think that's a huge factor. I think absolutely. It's a big factor. You're sitting there. You're looking at this lottery. Pick hey remember what. Ottawa went through a couple years ago as they were losing. And what are they going to hand Colorado. You think the organization organization didn't sweat with that on a daily basis or I find it hard to believe it wasn't a factor. The other thing is San Jose has been consistently assistant Louis. Strong team almost always in the playoffs. Almost always a contender. Doug Wilson's told his story before a long time ago when they had their won miss playoff season in a whole bunch they really got hit in terms of their business. And that's sharks team always remembered that now I haven't asked him about that particular story in a couple years but he always talked about it when they missed the playoffs once about a decade ago. And what it did to their business and they've never forgotten so I think the combination of all of of those things is a factor. You talked about Brian. Burke mentioned on television Wednesday night with us when this news broke and we and we did our first intermission on it and that is the mix. And you're right San Jose under Doug Wilson they go for it and they make move to make sure that they're always in the playoff conversation and they are always a threat in the western conference. I don't know what it is. Let me distress the right word. And put the accent on the race allowable here. I don't know what it is with San Jose but you agree that something is off and is it just as simple as maybe Pavlovski was the glue that kept all of this together because there are some big personalities. Air When JOEP evolves Q.. Is there Joe Flirting. Patrick Marlowe right. Down the list Brent Burns big personalities in that room I know that Joe Forton may have. I've been the captain in one sense but then in another perhaps more accurate in day-to-day sense. It was Joe Pavelski. I don't know if I would say the PA- Veliky held the team together. Because I think Dan Fortin had plays a huge role in that too but I think Podolsky was apart. I look at it differently this way. I just think that those guys who came team up together a sharks or spend a ton of time together a sharks who bled shark. -Til were the fortunes. It's the tour's the Pavel Skis. Those guys didn't all grow up in the organization because Thornton came over from Boston but grew together in the organization and they were the identity of the team. It's changed I think Burns grew into that he I became very much a shark. No evanger CAIN. He's been on a couple of different situations. Does he bleed San Dan. Jose like those guys did Eric. Carlson was in another situation. Does he bleed San Jose like those guys did. Can it even be possible. Astle for those guys to Bleed San Jose. -Til like those guys. Did I think hurdle does I think Meyer does 'cause they come there from there and Vlasic has always been a different but PA- Veliky goes out. I think Braun was a big part of them too. He was part of that group. That kinda grew up with the sharks together. I just think that they lost something. Whatever it is it isn't there and the other thing I do do you believe is remember? I talked to buffalo about this. When Terry Pagot bought the sabers there were a bunch of guys? who were there palm in Ville Derek Roy and they watched some huge contracts? Get out two handed out. Villa Lino and Christian Air HAV and Myers Guide a big extension and those guys admitted on camera that it affected them. And I've always remembered that you know to be honest. Some guys have told me they think that's kind of what's gone on Vegas a little bit that some of the guys who started there. They didn't take the big deals. And then guys who came in. Got The big deals so I do wonder about that. I think it's a thing. Do you think that Bob Wagner is the guy long term for the San Jose Sharks and what I'm going to get out of here. I WanNa going to lead to just Sort of clouding with anything. I want to have a conversation about hiring coaches which is right now and is the interim tag just there pending a formal process of interview and arriving at your decision we all know that there is going to come in the NHL A way for general managers to do background checks of what needs to go into making a higher. Is that why right now. And perhaps perhaps we'll see more of this when the next coach is fired in the NHL. Is that why we're now seeing everybody with the interim tag first of all I can't tell oh you how many texts in tweets I got tonight from people saying that it's kind of a sad reflection on where we are that when I send Senate tweet twice once that I was hearing San Jose was going to make the change and second we had a confirmed we had to put on it that this is a hockey decision. Not Anything anything else sect. As a matter of fact I think that's why I got. It confirmed because when I was sniffing around it somebody got in touch with me and said I'm only telling you it's true for one particular reason because I don't want it getting out and people all over social media saying Oh was period aboard more fired because he did something wrong. It's kind of a sad place were in. Unfortunately I think first of all. It's very hard hard to hire a coach in these circumstances number two. I think all of a sudden there's a lot of really good coaches who are available so I think and teams are going to want to say. Hey what if. There's this guy think he was really good and I might think he might be a perfect guy for my situation and and You know if you look at it Elan Nasreen. Probably the coach for the rest of the year no guarantees that's what ratio said when he took took over Jeff Ward coach right now but not guaranteed the rest of the year. Jim nill said Writ Bonus was the rest of the year but we talked walked in the podcast. We taped earlier. What have peer to bore comes along right reunited? Now's Jose's same situation. I think that like the whole hockey world right now is turned over. Like all of this happens on a day. A brutal story comes out in the Wall Street Journal. You know what what happened with the Chemo you in the EC L. and Colorado a few years ago at a Christmas party in the costume that was done. The sport is in total upheaval upheaval right. Now you can't guarantee anyone to anything because we just don't know what's coming and these teams yes. Some of these guys have the inside inside track. You Know Jeff Ward. Is We tape. This is six dollars. The coach of the Calgary flames. Maybe that gets them the job but you know who knows where we're going so what's next for four then. We had another year on a contract. I think he was about three point. Two five million. So do you know he can relax a bit. Pick a situation which you mentioned Dallas second ago and that just seems like it maybe just seems to story book that I just want it to happen because it makes sense in my little brain but there is someone who knows that organization have after having coached against them for so long long one of his key players with San. Jose is a key piece now of that organization up. It's hard to say I don't know I'm just throwing darts like anybody else. But when Somali Malaysia Peter deboer becomes available on the market things like well. I know I've said that our interim head coach is safe until the end of the season. But I you know the reality what he is that things change knows. I as we sit here right now. I can't say that that's going to happen. But you're not the only guy was going to put two and two together the Great economists meter Qian's one said when he was accused of flip flopping about something he said well when the facts change I changed my mind. What do you do you? Yeah I I don't see anything wrong with that or do I. I don't know Jeff. It's such a weird time. What I'd be surprised if anybody goes to Peter deboer right now and says? Do you WANNA come here no. I wouldn't be surprised. They've got a lot of respect. You know I've heard a great story about Peter Deboer that when he left the Ontario Hockey League what was his first job was Florida. Yeah and he walked in there. Yeah I'm the hotshot coach from juniors if a shot at Ottawa to recall that. Same time to talk to you Jean about I think so so i. I can't remember off hand but it sounds familiar it would just alfred from doing. TV show. He walked he walked in there all on the junior big shot. I'll handle this and he. He was humbled when he left He. He learned that you need players so he can be comfortable and he can pick a situation but someone's going to talk to him. The guy is a good coach coach and he did a good job in San Jose. This is bigger than than coaching. You know we should mention is is whole coaching staff except for Buchner went with them up. Dave Barr our Johan Hedberg and Steve Spot and it's a brutal business but I have no doubt those guys will be back San Jose Sharks set off a six EXC game homestand and we will see them on hockey night in Canada. Saturday against the Vancouver canucks. Does this candice profoundly. Change San Jose's fortunes. I think if the goal tending isn't better what are you going to do. That's what I'm saying to myself. I is somehow Babu going to make these guys better goals. I know that it's deeper just golden a second year. The analyst re screaming at me about expected goals that maybe I'll look at it too simplistically and I say here's another coach. That's the victim of bad goaltending. Can Bob Bogner make these guys better goaltenders well then. The analysts crowd comment me too. Because I do think if they don't get better goaltending it's not gonNA matter. We know we should mention here. Getting shot on the San Jose Bench next to Buner is always summer and the longest serving coach. The American Hockey League twenty two years over over seven hundred wins over seven hundred losses. I mean sixteen hundred something games. Four Cities Kentucky Worcester San Dan. WHO'S A cleveland? It's Nice little story so nice story much like we thought that Bruce Boudreau once upon a time was gonna be the H. L. Hockey Lifer and and then Glen Hanlon was dismissed in Washington and Boudreau got his first break. Anything more to add or can we go home now and let Amil all piece. This franken pot altogether. I would suspect that. Doug Wilson try to do something trade wise couldn't do it and this this was a last resort and that's the last word Now back to your regularly scheduled thirty-one sauce the podcast this is presented by GMC Sierra trucks complete with the world's first six function multi pro tailgates the Sierras cargo boxes also feature to cheer Loading Design Nine which allows you to insert a platform like a plywood sheet to separate items within the bed. So if you've got tools or other cargo you WANNA keep safe and organiz when loading hockey gear a win stowing out there now you can. GMC WE are professional grade. I was read I. Oh by the way not bad I upgraded so it was pods. Did you sleep. I slept on both 'cause I finished at one. Am on Saturday and then our flight was at seven. Forty five on Sundays so I slap words there on that flight and then I slept on the way home. I watched I downloaded loaded the Irishman in Iowa other than than really long. No I liked it now I have to I understand. I've seen a lot of complaints about this. I actually actually really liked it. There were people complain about the CGI on De Niro and Pacino. I didn't care there were people who thought Pacino was over the top as Jimmy Hoffa from what I understand. What Jimmy Hoffa? I thought it was really good. I know Pacino can be really over the top but I thought he was really good. I liked it now. I had a buddy warned me in advance. Watch it like a series. Don't try to watch it all in three hours. Watch it in parts and I did and So I watched it on the flight and and watch a little bit of it in the hotel. When I had time I liked it? I liked the story. I I really enjoyed it. I mean I like Pacino I like Deniro. We're supposed to be in the movie while they that's why they have the CGI and it looks Kinda Weird. But I really liked it. Also I gotTa Tell You I'm not The biggest Ray Romano uh-huh fan. I liked him in this. This is something I should watch. Yes I watch movies at the end of the season. Like but the thing to do to watch it in episodes. Alright right so What was your expectation? Then heading to the Board of Governors and what was your or what were your takeaways. First of all the Montgomery through everything for a loop that it definitely go there. What was the the buzz? The discussion the whispers to talk like that happens. And you're around everybody. In hockey there was a lot of like just surprise. People wouldn't say anything or you know I have to tell you something. I felt really bad for a one particular guy. His his name is John Turturro. He works for San Jose and he was talking to me and Gary Bettman walk by and he goes on now I know where you get all your information formation from and I said I said this is why I don't like to talk to anybody here because someone's GonNa walk by and thinking that and that actually laughed at that he thought that was very funny. Actually I saw John Before. That story broke so this wasn't with him and he didn't deny that. But that's okay but you know when that day when it broke like people walking by and nobody would say anything but everybody had this look of shock on their face and they're like you see the news and you'd go. Yeah and they would just get like the there is would go wide like wow how it definitely definitely change. Change the VIBE. You know everybody I wanted to say like you. Even the illness press conference he said we support what the League said Shanahan. You know we support. What the League said? Everybody wanted to do that but I think the Montgomery thing threw it into such off. Kilter that you know people were in shock. They were absolutely surprised. I mean the rest of the meeting. I think we was there a feeling amongst the people to be. Oh Gee that you know what today. It's Dallas and and maybe. Our Day of reckoning is coming. was that sort of like you know you mentioned that go there but for the grace of God go. I wonder how many teams are saying and this might be us one day. Well I think everybody's he's Kinda wandering you know what's going to be found out. That's why I think when Ben Minez Media Conference and he said we don't like surprises. We don't like surprises The bill Peter Situation was a complete surprise. Going forward are clubs are on notice that if they become aware of an incident of conduct involving NHL personnel on or off the ice that is clearly inappropriate unlawful demonstrably abusive where that may violate league. The policies we hit the League Office Bill Daley or me must be immediately advised. There will be zero tolerance for any failure to notify us us and in the event of such failure. The Club in the individuals involved can expect severe discipline. He said to the media but he wasn't saying it to the media and the fans dance he was saying it to everyone on the teams that was a warning to the teams and I heard later that that speech he read to the media and the public he also so read inside the Board of Governors meeting and he was emphatic on the we don't like surprises. Teams are kind of told now and they understand like we don't know what the penalties are don't even the teams Reno what the penalties are but they said if we hide something we know. We're going to get it and I think that was one of the things we took away. You know the other thing that was was interesting from the meeting to me was getting a chance. There are a number of reporters there were about ten of us. We sat down with Kim Davis and let me get the exact act title. Because it's a hefty title hers Yes executive VP of social impact in growth. I think there are a number of reporters who asked to speak to her where she was hired two years ago and basically she hasn't been in the public eye but you know she was a long time executive. GP Morgan was one of the company she worked for another firm and her job was to work on corporate culture so the NHL Higher two years ago and basically she spent two years. I think she said she's visited. Not all the teams but more than twenty of them and you know this is what she was brought in to address. You know hopefully before Lord happened but now it's out there and you know they say the we a lot of us were asking to talk to her and she sat down with kind of an informal setting and you know we asked her a bunch of questions and you know one of the questions was flat out. Do you think hockey has a racism problem. You know another reporter asked you know you go into that room and it's almost all white man you know. How do you change this and I found it really interesting to talk to her? I think certain people have it. She's got it. She commands man's room by the way her answering you read about this in the blog that you know that society has a a racism problem. This isn't exclusive the hockey. I would really like to talk to her. I don't know if she does many media interview request for the PODCAST. I would love to get her on the podcast because I'd be curious from her point of view because I'm not saying that it's a dodge. It's not because I believe that as she mentioned that hockey is a microcosm of offices are microcosm for society. What I would be a curious to hear from him is what is unique to hockey? That she sees as a problem is racism problem in hockey. Of course it is. It is isn't society as well. Is there anything specific about hockey. That is troubling. That isn't troubling with the rest of society. Here's what I would say to that because I think she does answer that. If you continue to read her comments of from the interview she talks about biases conscious launches and unconscious bias and. It's obvious to me that she thinks that hockey. There's an unconscious bias because we're not exposed to enough and and that's what. She says that she has to change. is to change the exposure to different backgrounds. Different people two different walks of life. Affleck's she talks of social capital theory. Before here on this podcast and that's what this is winking. Yes but let's talk about some of the things. She said like one thing she talks about his first he says says that a generational history of individuals have gone through a certain kind of treatment feeling like while I endured it so the next generation has to endure it and until you break that cycle it continues and quote. Were in the middle of that right now. Whether you think hockey's at all sports talking about life there but I brought it into hockey because it right now in hockey were either in the middle of that at the end of that or we're just beginning but we're in it. People are starting to speak through our out in hockey. So that's coming but the thing that she says that she's going to do is that. She said she's spoken to a number of teams teams that recognize that the ownership recognizes. They have to open up avenues for people of Color and she says there's a willingness to make make that happen and she said it's going to be hard to change the ownership level because I mean just being an owner no matter what. Your background is hard. You have to have that wealth wealth. But it doesn't mean you can't change at the Front Office Level The coaching level even the marketing levels. You can hire differently if you want to. And I think that's what her plan is is she's GonNa say you have to create avenues for people of these different backgrounds. And that's would she's going to do and she believes she's got the support to do it. Seattle she's a big believer in their hiring and Seattle has talked a lot about how that they're hiring is going to be reflective of their city. As a whole I apologize if I'm misquoting this but I've been told that over fifty percent of their VP's or female for example she did say that Seattle's a very good example. No she talked about what happened. In the past couple of weeks she said that this can become a rallying call and I see that as a positive there's no question we're on rallying call moment right now. She's been empowered via the commissioner to do this and it's not going to be a quick process. I don't think it ever is. I'm sure people will look and say it's going to take longer than they would like but it's going to happened happened. You think through all of this and believe other sports I WANNA say football. You would know better than I would. And this is of course under the umbrella of conduct in behavior for general managers when they hire coaches. That's going to be laid out. We suspect strongly by the NHL does the NFL not have a mandatory Tori interview program. That when you interview Rooney Rule Yeah. Can you see something like that. Not Just that the coaching position but at all positions NHS within an organization. I could see it now. The Rooney rule people who've covered football. They say it's a double edged sword number one. They said it did very good things. But then there were accusations of you know tokenism like Oh. You're just doing this guy because you have to. Not because you really. I think that they're academy. And I remember reading that. There were some guys who felt that they got. They became like the rule candidate. They weren't a serious contender but they got. I interviewed because people had to. But I don't necessarily think that it would be a bad thing in hockey just right now. How deep is the talent pool? That's that's why a lot of this has to happen more at the minor hockey and grassroots level and grow up. Well I think the other thing you could do in your Richard Petty and I know that Richard Petty He is a guy at mls when he ran an se his name elicits passion the the really liked him. Or you're really hate him. I once interviewed interviewed for a job at mls they asked me to interview for it. It was the raptors media relations job when it was open and I told my employer at the time and I didn't think I was going to do it but I wanted to go through the process to see what it was like so I interviewed there but the one thing that he was very clear to me is he believed that. MLS see should reflect how the city looked. He was a a big believer in. You had to be diverse. And that's where I think you can make a big differences if the pool is not deep enough yet for coaches at the NHL. GotTa start at the minor level. I or general managers. That doesn't mean the pool can't be deep in other parts of your hockey department. And I think that's what she's going to tackle with love to have around podcast well sort of that an official request anybody listening to the NHL Shell which I doubt bringer other Takeaways Abo G. Code of conduct was. I mean you're right the north there's GonNa be actual code of conduct now. There might not be a written code of conduct night. Had some people say yes I had some people say no. I had some people who said that. This is still still to be determined. Have a hard time. This is just going to be a cup check. Inhale it's smart. No no I think it could end up being. If you don't report you get hammered you you have to go through the sensitivity or diversity. Training that they talked about. But if it's anything written I'm not sure about that at this point in time. I'm not surprised as the World Cup was killed. I was a little surprised. The salary cap update wasn't given. I can understand why after what happened last. I still had it in last year. I can understand why could get it and you know Shanahan talking about Babcock. I thought that was going to happen. We thoughts on that well. Well he wasn't crazy about the question if another team asks you. What are you going to say? I think that's sort of a hypothetical I wouldn't want to get into into Elliott quite honestly. I think you know much was made of the incident with with Mike a few years ago with with Mitch. Marnie for instance and I know a a general manager at the time had called me and let me know about it right away and address it right away with Mike and Mike Apologize to Mitch and there was communication education with our general manager of the time and the agent in the family and You know wasn't something that was appropriate or acceptable to us Since then my general whether it was low or kyle never come to us with a situation like that But absolutely absolutely are there. Is it a highly charged. Atmosphere is an atmosphere where players and coaches and where we can all sometimes Want to go back and do things things a little bit better absolutely but I think that this is a good starting point. I think some the league's Some of the League's plans and some of the education that that we should all have available to us can certainly be a help. I think that there are going to be teams. Are GonNA WANNA talk. Talk to him because even friends and set himself that he's a great coach and as so I think people are going to say to him. What would you do differently friendly? Are you willing to evolve. I think the biggest question is does he wanNA retire or does he wanna come back and coach. And we've seen this before or from coach after coach. Oh I promise Allah Volvo yes I'm GonNA. which coach would say they're not going to evolve always found that sort of traveling because all coaches always talk talk about that but then generally we all find them falling back on repeated behaviors and repeated pattern? That's going to put the pressure on the hirers. Now right like if you're Mike Babcock and I'm hiring you am. I GONNA Trust you to say it or do I believe it at that point. Your neck is out. It's right it's on me. There's no question about that. And like I said. I do think people will reach out to babcock to gauge his interest. What do I you think about what Shanahan said? It's what I expected. I don't ever expect anyone to come out and say Oh yeah I knew all this but I still hired him anyway. I remember two years ago when Nick. I broke the problems between Matthews and Babcock doc he was asked about it and someone said what do you what do you think about that and he goes. It's coaching. He's coaching him. And he admitted the Monitor thing they dealt with they felt they dealt with it internally and it never happened again yeah. I think it's so hard when you're hiring somebody to drive people that line. It is so tough like I. I don't support the minor. I don't support the Spencer. I don't support the Franson but I'm betting that all of us have different lines on what is acceptable. And what isn't that's just sitting. Coaching involves taking people out of their comfort zones putting them in uncomfortable situations hoping hoping that they will grow as a player. I mean how many people have you talked to even just around here ex players that have said Oh yeah. This coach was awful to me and did some questionable things but I appreciate it because I became a better player at the end of all other players say in that same scenario yet that was off base. Well look look at our own business like my first I tv boss was a guy named Lee Hoberman and Lieberman worked at. CBC for a long time and he hired me to work at headline sports which became the score. He was a tough boss. You know there were people who didn't like working for him. I remember the first time he gave me crap. I deserved it. He was coming at me and I deserved it later. He pulled me aside with the tape and he he said I'm going to tell you why I was mad at you. I remember He. I showed him a featuring I did and he threw his pen and he goes. This is not not acceptable and I thought it was a good future and there were a few other words there and then he sat me down and he went through it and he says this is why this this is not acceptable. People heard about it. And they're like you're gonNA accept that and I said I'm fine with it sometimes. You need some tough love. And he told told me it was hard but he told me exactly where everything was wrong with it and made it better and I knew that the way he talked to me was some other. People didn't really like it too for them but I didn't have a problem with it. He's one of the reasons I got to here and I think that's the thing like it's so hard jeff you have to sit here and say I bet you there's things that a boss would say to you and I would say that's not okay and you're like fine and you'd say A. I think that's terrible. I'm like really that wouldn't bother me. That's why this is such a difficult line. I know the. NHL Doesn't want to become a thirty one soon to thirty two team hr department but does it feel like that now are that it's evolving towards. We know what the end of all of this more power is going to be centralized to the NHL You look when Gary Bettman took over the the National Hockey League in Nineteen ninety-three as commissioner. It was was a pretty weak central office. Those teams ran as more independent than they ever have and slowly but surely the Commissioner's office has has strengthened. And this will make it even stronger as Gary Bettman. He's got the power that's just it. We don't like surprises. WE'RE NOT GONNA put up with surprises. Is there a feeling. Oh now I'm going to ask you. What the hotline second that the? NHL is closer now than ever to being an HR department for the entire league. I think basically is. It makes the decisions it's the brain trust it. Will I remember when Batman came in remember. Who all the owners were? How powerful some of those guys were up? Awards is Illitch Neider. Snyder Jacobs. He had to work his way through now. Some of those guys got the older some of those guys gave the teams of their families or their family. Start running the more. They're became new owners. Gary started making them more money. which gives you more power breath? Everybody in outside of Jacobs and the words right so he says well he gained more power he got them a better ATV deal. Revenues went up. Whether you think they've gone up enough or not. You know he's the powerbroker now. I mean Jacobs is probably police to actually the guy. But the commissioner is is right there Miami and here's why I asked because we're focusing so much on the dynamic between between the coach and the player a couple of things is that hotline just for players and is it just for current players or is it for alumni and is that a hotline for other employees please. This just isn't an issue of coach to player. This could be. I think it's GonNa be every day coach or this could be general manager to other office employees around that GM. I think at this point in time it's hard to say because everything is is so much in its infancy stage but I would bet it's for everything so so if you're a scout why not and you have an issue with your general manager saying Oh we're only gonNA pay you know sixty cents on the dollar for for gas and we need you to watch two periods here three periods there and you're gonNA drive across his icy Roden. You're going to get there and your travel is outrageous into getting put up in cheap hotels and and you're not making any money to boot. Is that hotline for you. I don't know that's why I say is the NHL now trending towards this new position of being HR department for as soon to be thirty. Two Team I don't know I mean but look the League is the powerbroker now right. Yes what do you think of the hotline is. They're going to be as secure dropbox too. Because that's what someone said who's going to calm. Call leave their voice. They're going to be able to tell who the voices look. I just think at this point in time. They have to look like they're doing things right. So so I could see a situation Jeff where it starts. Where would they say this now and they find tune it later or they think of a better idea later but the bottom line is as we all know? They couldn't come to this meeting and say nothing so they had to have something. And that's the start moving on Other issues from the B. O. G.. The cap thing is not a surprise. I don't think Gary Bettman once you give a number of them have it come in later than anticipated and that's what we saw last season. And you do bring up something interesting though about escrow being lowered naturally Nexia ask because there's so basically the way it works is the actual cash so for example. There's the cab hit. Say Jeff make seven million dollars which makes him underpaid. But how much does he actually get paid. Let's say there's a lot of guys whose actual cash lower than their cap it next year because it could have been a strike lockout ear so they structured their deals that way next year is going to be lower. Or even when the Petra Angelo sign and the crew sign and the hall in the halls. The Muslin's it's not gonNA catch. What was there this year so so I had one guy tell me that they thought that escrow could be close to zero now? I don't know if that's true. The players would be overjoyed. I mean warnings way. We'll see where that goes but the players at the end of the day once the CAP numbers set have the option to lifted by up to five percent. The used to do it all the time but then the ass girl got got high this year. I think it was one point one or last year it was one point one five. That's kind of where it was in that area this year too so I think that the leading you can teams are hopeful not escrow but that's the CAP inflator that was the asteroid Eros fourteen right. Okay I WANNA make sure have understand so the inflator was at one point one five for last season for example so I think the teams are sitting here and saying all right. We're going to talk about it with the Players Association. Maybe they'll raise it a bit more so you think this could be the on ramp for the Players Association. Say let's go back to five because we have the or something close to there and I will say this. I one team that said they heard if that happens it could go up to eighty eight. Nobody's expecting that so they they are thinking they're hoping eight forty five. It's an any one and a half now the World Cup of hockey. Yeah that's not happening. They wanted the League wanted for February. Twenty twenty one. The players want want to go to the Olympics. The League is not wanting to go to the Olympics so the players weren't willing to guarantee the World Cup. The deadline was all star game at the latest. The League knew it wasn't going to get done by then. It's a goner. So this year the All Star Games in Saint Louis and next year the All Star game will be wherever it is probably a three on three many world cupper. Many Ryder Cup kind of thing is going to say yes so there is a little tweak to the Allston yes now. This year's All Star game and we showed it a bit on the headlines last weekend they are going to do the top golf kind of thing where the players are in the crowd shooting at targets on the ice and and I think there's some talk of having Brett Hull involved. I hope it's Stanley Cup. Parade Brett Hull. That would make it more entertaining. How about this Brady could shock if he represents the sanders? What it'll be anti-glare okay? I wonder if I wonder what they talk about that. Because because you know if they involve the alumni who lives in Saint Louis everybody well his dad like what if he does the accuracy and his dad passes on the puck. DOC that's pretty cool like Matthew. If he makes the all star game what if they both make it they both do the shooting and the dad passes them both the pox. Yes that is free and the father sabotage is one of the brothers just for that is pretty cool. How much of an update was there on Seattle? They're really happy with their ticket. Sales they think that I really got the sense. That Seattle is going to be a high revenue team. Like they think it's going to be a top five revenue team. Same Top five maybe even as high as to someone was telling US merge can be once they got a name the team right cracking whole Ole sasquatch but come on it's not I realize the crack and is dumb but sasquatch is sixty times as dumb you before if the name of the team is crack and you know what the slang for the rink is going to be once again crack House think the NHL for one second is going and you don't think that that's it's been discussed. I dare you to open up. A Wednesday brought chances of that are looking for a new host. Yeah exactly what your bank Wednesday. The Hawk Preferably not a smart ass Merrick coupla things around the NHL a couple of things that are in your notes this week couch flames and you mentioned Jeff Ward a couple of moments ago Welt which seems was like this conversation from an eternity ago and you mentioned that there was a much more and has been a much more relaxed vibe around the Calgary flames. It's six record under Ward Yup and being some good teams be Colorado Arizona back goals like leeches scoring goals. They look and maybe it's just went. I don't know what it is and your eyeballs. Do betray you I get that. But I watched Calgary under Jeff Ward. They just look like a faster team. And another Sean Monahan is not GonNa Challenge Pavel Beret in his promise that but just look get quicker team rate. Now we've seen Jeff Ford put lines and blenders we've seen Johnny Gaudreau play with Lucia Ryan. We've seen Johnny Gaudreau play with Monaghan and back lend. We've seen a lot of things early early out of words so far. What are your thoughts on Calgary right now in the middle of all this Bill Peter Stuff? We kind of forgot that there was a big debate. About Peter's future in Calgary even before the news broke and he was tough guy. He was a drill. Sergeant he really he worked hard and you know they just weren't responding to it even before all of this stuff came out but they didn't want to make a chain. You WanNa make you change because this group had already made two changes. They made the Bob Hartley Change. Who was also really drill sergeant very hard and then they made went to Glenn Gullickson and the flames felt they? Took advantage of Glen Gallison's niceness and one of the situations. They really felt it in was in the playoffs playoffs the year that Brian Elliott really struggled. The story always was that that year in the playoffs. When Elliott was struggling they had a game they absolutely had to win and Gullickson wanted to start Chad Johnson and the players talked him out of it? And you know it didn't work. They got knocked out. Elliott had a really rough night and I just think that they felt that that group of players they didn't do right by Gullickson. He's a very decent guy and they took advantage of it and that's why one of the reasons they went for Peters and I think they really resisted the idea of making another change with this core group so peters. The story broke on Monday night there in Pittsburgh next day they went to buffalo to skate and Kelly. Rudy's Kinda sad how the the VIBE was immediately different. And he wasn't the only one to say they were people in around the organization even some of the players who said the vibe was different and then once wants ward was Kinda told he was in the spot to stay he just started saying okay guys. This is what I'm thinking of doing. And he got their feedback on it. He involved all of them a bit more on the process and one of the guys I heard who really did. It was good role like you know. He got demoted. Basically to the third line but but they explained to him. This is why we're doing it. And then you start winning and winning cures everything but also guys started getting points like Guru who was struggling. He has four points in six games. Monaghan looked lost an all the sudden. He's got I think. Seven point six games going four games the goal in a row. All those guys Lucia Rinaldo do bay and I know I Miss Ryan since ward was hired. They've got nineteen points. This is a group and Lucia especially. Looks like a different guys. Got Three goals five assists and four-game so I think that the flames are kind of sitting here and saying you know we didn't want to make the change. This whole situation was awful. Maybe it's what we needed to have happened in terms of not the stories happening. Nobody needs that but just the change and you'll museum with ward. They haven't told him that he's going to have the job. At the end of the year we talked about it earlier. The description I got is. They're dating but no ring yet. He's undefeated results speak. I you know if I was him I'd retire. I'm going on top six zero. I'm out what hit single boom. I'm gone but you've got to think he's going to finish the year beers you see like if they continue a pace like this Does he get the chance to be the head coach elsewhere. Alex Culture Shock. Rutherford had some pointed comments about him. Josh Yo of the athletic saying once you get our guys back you might not be top twelve guy. I heard they've been trying to check the market on. Maybe move them even before. That got Out I heard Buffalo. I think there's something to it. I think the savers are considering it. It'll stat replacement. Maybe maybe you know they were looking for a forward Ford Anyway. I'd heard Ottawa. But people pooh-poohed that to me we'll see mentioned only Nasreen earlier on. Yeah and Tuesday night. We Sally Allie Nezar Dean versus Rick Bowness Dallas and the New Jersey devils and you write extensively this week in thirty one thoughts dot ca about the new interim the head coach of the New Jersey devils. What have you learned about him in the House record this? It's eight days but when it gets released nine days since he was hired. Well the one thing I kind of suspected that we now know is that he was a really beloved teammate. Guys like him the other thing. I really learned his wife. got a great sense of humor. When we we set up the interview and it was on a game day was his second game? As coach is first game was on a Wednesday night at home and you got hired that day and the next day he he. He said he couldn't do it. 'cause he had a whole bunch of meetings he had to do but he did it on the Friday morning before their second game and You know all beat soothes a great. Pr Guy for the devil. Set it it up and I said the first thing I gotta ask you about. Is the yellow station wagon. And he goes. Who told you that and I go everybody who I spoke to told me about that car? The one that he sold to Danker Salon Stephen Yes. He said that he trashed a car or total. A car I guess when he was in the American Hockey League and he had to buy a cheap replacement he bought a five hundred dollar yellow. Nineteen ninety seven Chevrolet. Caprice is one of those old station wagons. Ask Your parents. The backseat faced out back and the door opened like sideways. It didn't go up and open sideways. We all grew up with these. We know the younger generation didn't wood paneling on the side those beauties. He said that when he got traded from the islanders to Pittsburgh he went from bridgeport to Scranton wilkes-barre and they were going on a road trip and the players are waiting for him on the bus and he drove up in that thing and he said guys were like who the hell did we just trade for like what the bleep is this and he was laughing when he talked about it and he said that guys started driving everywhere. It was a talking point. They loved it and they would try to see how many guys that could fit in the car at once and I heard eight. WHOA and Nasreen said we tried for ten? I think we only got nine. The other great story he told was his first. NHL Goal and he's only he actually said you're on Lance they'll go he actually interrupted Elliot Save First. NHL Goal because it sounds like I could have had more as opposed to only NHL goal. It was in Montreal all his hometown in two thousand six. He scored with one second left in the period of a loss to the Canadians. Point for Pittsburgh Manning in this one one tie bell center racking defense said the offense was owing never left the Blue Line but there were five seconds left and I scored Lorde has celebration was. Oh it was hysterical. Literally dances around. The Isis family was there and in his first hockey week and he his brother Sammy me was playing with a twenty year. Pro Career was in England at the time on the phone with his biles when he scored and he didn't believe them when they started yelling. He's like yes sure. Sure he scored come on. Give me a break Nassredine or the venue by Sidney crosby all over me makes sense to take passing. Just get it off the inside of the postal chance of what a killer right. At the end of the period the fine line was was teenage. We're telling them that this is how great a player Sidney Crosby is even could make score veg just so excited for him everyone laughing. They don't want to spruce point one of those guys that you cheer for US crying during the it was really nice conversation and Him and John Heinz are really tight. How his wife Josiane said to him? Okay I know this is tough but you know. She's a really go-getter get her. She got him in the right frame of mind. You know since we've done an interview we've seen what's happened with the devils. It's tough there you know. He knows it those guys some of those guys are going to checked out. They know they're getting traded. Almost everybody's on the block. You know you like to see good things happen to good people. I hope. Somehow this turns into a good thing for him I think. All those coaches that have to shepherd teams in dead seasons to the finish line deserve statues or at least I extended contracts. Peter Hornacek in Toronto does horrid check Is He's on the bench now in Jersey. I just think like Nasreen and the whole family really because Sami like we said play. Twenty years. pro- from purity Denmark like Aladdin Nassredine as dedicated. Is Life the hockey to make people better. He's been a player popular player coach. Now you'll want to see like when people think of Land Nasr Meeting they think of him Coaching out the schedule in New Jersey. So I WANNA see. Do really well for them. Talk about New Jersey. Not Ask about Taylor Hall so here I go you know. Cj set on the broadcast last Saturday night. He thinks the devils wanted to do this quickly. I do think there's truth to that but it's hard when everybody knows you're desperate you have to create the market and the question is how much is the market. We've talked about Colorado. We've talked about Arizona tough to tell what Montreal's up to I'll tell you this. There's they're guys who think Morello's in it. The New Jersey devils again. Make that sizable trade. See I think you have to just do. What's what you think is right? I don't disagree disgraced. Oh were Edmonson. We don't trade with cognitive while we've seen that blow up this summer. Oh we are Los Angeles we're not going to deal with with Anaheim over the rangers. Were not going to deal with the islanders. I think that's ridiculous. You're taking your chances on a rental likely right but anyway fingerboard Lula Morello is. He only only makes these kinds of moves when he thinks teams. Good enough to win. If you're the New York islanders and your Lula morale you think you're good enough to win with more goals absolutely absolutely you do God damn right. You think you're good enough to win so I look at that and I say he's not going to tell me if I call and say your student dealer Taylor Hall I was GonNa say like lose my number. Why even ask me this stupid question? It makes sense every idea would a hall all would be pardon the Pun for Taylor Hall. Is it the Matt Shane Bounty. Is it. The mark you'll ever get mad machine bounty you're aiming for. Are you see the thing about Marston. And we talked about this Ottawa with stock because he only wanted one place like Taylor Hall. I think he's an open book. I think he'll go anywhere this year. That helps helps US value. That has shot at the playoffs. The what you get is the pair by how many teams are in it. All right couple bounced around here before we get some Ask thirty-one Jack Eichel's Hot Jack Eichel number talking to him in Chicago about his expectations and his performance and how he wants to be a change player leader Peter Performance and all that. He's the hottest player in the NHL. Talk is cheap. That's why this podcast is free. Hey there you go. That's our new promo. He talked a big a game but he's backed it up. Neal sabres are really struggling there. Did you think that they were GonNa go dragging falling off the cliff like they had the last several years I thought that as November November continued to wipe them out that they wouldn't be able to turn it back around and who dragged them out of a hundred percent. That's what great players do. You can talk call you want you got to deliver. That guy's delivering What's the update with and you're right about him? Ilya Kovalchuk in L. A.. His last bonus payment. I think it's two point. Six five millions do now December fifteenth. But after I wrote it a buddy of mine said WHO's familiar with banking says dimwit. Who Sends Two two point six five million dollar checks on a Sunday? So maybe it's Monday I don't know maybe the angels angels and Open Bank on Sundays. I don't know what these guys are doing. I still like the fact. The have a friend that refers to you as dimly love my out of which decade. Actually he called me something more than dimwit. Okay Okay Pete that I don't know it's going to be around next Sunday and then I think everybody's expecting some kind of mutual agreement the part. I don't know how how it's GonNa work. I've heard the trademark is just. It's just not there. So the expectation is it's GonNa part somehow back to. I don't know I mean. He lives in North America. Right you might not want to. I heard he's really upset about what's happened. It'll be interesting when he talks grits. Taking the Boston deal. I don't know you know I honestly don't know the. What would that because right now that Boston Bruins team is I? I know they've had a little. You know Radar Blip here losing to Colorado at home losing to the Ottawa senators but that Boston team staggering like what a delight belt light. That team is I always think I'm always interested in this. You know the you know the the alternate universe in the NHL. If KOVALCHUK HAD ENDED UP IN BOSTON INSTEAD OF LA I. I just don't think it would have worked anywhere. I just broken down what we'd be saying about the Boston bruins right now. That much of an impact before we go to break. How does the arranger goaltending situation sort itself out so I've been wondering why there hasn't been more interesting Georgiev as we sit here and tape this? He's at fifty fifty seven games once he hit sixty. He's a waiver waiver eligible and they've got a kid down there in Hartford Just York in who they love. He's in his first here in North America. He's been incredible. So you know I was thinking why aren't teams going after Georgiev and somebody's set me straight on and he said you know you gotTa Hall of Famers Got One year left on the contract. I think the ranger fans are all worried because craft saws already already gone back to Russia in your words. Jordan's GONNA do it. I don't know if that's a likely scenario or not. By if next year is lung was last year. You know you're GonNa go with your you have just Jerkin could work. I liked that Greg could goalie. Yes he is just York and looks like it's going to be a good good goalie but if it's Lundquist last year next year you have another year in the age. Have to figure out how you're going to get through that right. That's a tough one. Yes Hint Siri how he's torching the H. L. on these already outgrown. But I will say this. A couple of the team's not Toronto told me if they're in New York shoes unless you get blown away with an unbelievable offer you have to find a way way to make that work because the way those kids are you're gonNa have cap situations because you've got expensive players. They're gonNA be on really good contracts for a few years and they're really talent you have a chance but then as it sits today all right We pause breakaway return. Earn with some Hashtag. Ask Thirty one hundred thousand Elliot before we get to our ask thirty one segment one thing wanted to do is mentioned. Steve Ludd Zik Good friend of everybody. Nobody in this industry. What a wonderful human being? Steve is our curly in stage. Four liver failure. He is very much in need. of donor to survive. If you can help living organ donation DOT CA is the website to visit again living organ donation dot CA. If you can help out our good friend Steve Leads must be o blood type again. Must be o blood type living organ donation DOT CA. Stephen made a lot of help. Hope for a lot of people and I hope the Karma that he deserves. Great Karma comes back to help him while said Hashtag ask thirty one Elliott's From dusty can you see the NHL creating an Ncaa Tournament for teams eliminated from playoff contention in just like the NBA is discussing. I'm glad we got asked about this because when that story came out about the NBA. Kind of revamping. Their season in trying some new things I I looked got into this from the point of view. We kind of talked about this earlier in the podcast but I think the thing the NHL would like to do of. There's an in season. Tournament is the season World Cup up and the NBA is having a lot of trouble getting this going because the players don't seem very interested in it See the problem. Problem is is that. What do you want to win? You WanNa win the NBA Championship. You want to win the Stanley Cup. You don't WanNa Win Indian season tournament limit now. I know the soccer models very different. Those matter I don't think this matters to the players in the NHL in the NBA. Now Look in the All Star game game. There's a million dollars at stake but still they don't play that hard really. Yeah so what are you GonNa do GonNa make the players WanNa do that the other thing the NBA's talking about the players don't WanNa play heart. I don't think the teams want them to play hard. No I think the last thing they want to do is have a body count. That cost Osu a playoff spot. Well remember John. vars Olympics Sochi member Gar snowy dropped his guard and ripped it. And we're going to have to run back. Dominik Hasek Ottawa's bagging bagging him just to try to get into practice. That is a well told story. John McClure always felt that that cost them the Stanley Cup that year. Unless there's a World Cup I don't see that act. Now they're talking about reseeding. The conference final one versus four two versus three the. Nhl Did talk about that when they went to this realignment. Initially that was the plan but the players and teams fought back worried about travel. They didn't want like Montreal San Jose Stanley Cup semifinal. So that was one thing they have the play in there. That's one of the things. They're talking about the playoff plan and we know I love that but a certain guy with a lot of votes Gerry the snake submits we sort of talked a little bit about this calling Bettman a snake. I was big bossy. Soldier is Is is handle. Get a great really really good picture to hear of Gary Simmons The Cobra when will more news come down the pipe about Seattle's does new expansion franchise team name affiliates etc.. I think team name is going to be some time in the new year affiliates Palm Springs. Yep they're gonNA have palm springs team. Coach might not be for another year. I'll tell you this I got some guys who think it's going to be Palmer. Say Oh you do do you. Not Not me but I got some guys. I think it's going to be Paula Reid so contacted the end of the season. Starting speculation. Now I'm just telling you Doug Maclean Line I tell you the truth and just telling you what I heard throwing gasoline on the fire. It's good late in the Pie. That's a little Little Flavor for those that have stuck with us so far so far in this. podcast Adam Stephen submits is this with the NHL teams trying to promote individual players. Will there ever be a day where position players can personalize their helmets. Similar to goalies all these being able to paint. There's I would love it. I could see what the skates first before the helmet will you watch the NFL now. And they all have have those custom-made cleats say yeah I'd love to see the NHL. That with skates will finish up on this one. Herman Punch is there. Any consecutive number of losses the wings could hit for Jeff flashes job to be at risk wings or at twelve right now and lost ten in straight in October white is is remains a game plan and there. I don't know about the coach and understand this the last person we're getting any information mation from on that is going to be Steve Eisman. He's in lamb. Lowland I think is blinking plan. Is this get the best possible pick you can. That's what he wants. This year is about getting a pick and also at the second thing this year is about Eisman sees firsthand. who he he believes is part of the problem and we believe as part of the solution I think pick is more important to him? So this is an audition for who staley really wants to be. Yes amongst the top guys are amongst everybody full audit full offering you threw the gauntlet. They could win. I know games for the rest of the season is not going to be any trouble so he can watch this and I think at the end of the day this year is about getting the the best possible pick. I hear the Red Wings are not thrilled about the lottery. Odds as a matter of fact We'd like to be more heavily tips. Yeah you know. It is interesting. The way that the the season goes on and Lexi left for near has been tops of of most people's if not everyone's list but the more that you talk to do people assume San Costantino comes in every couple of weeks and we talked to Sammy about it as well. There's a lot of support for Clinton by field going first overall The talent is certainly there. The production is there and the one thing over laugh. Rainier is it's the premium position. It's the Centerman I mean you follow this more than I do. I've heard dipoto so by fields. Fantastic I've heard possible but I wouldn't expect to say that. I know who it's going to be yet lot of time between now and June in Montreal all right thanks for a producer. EMEL Dulwich thanks for sticking with us the entire podcast today and taking us out is leaf. Volney back his latest record. New Ways is a check. The alliteration owed on amel script majestic musical masterpiece. That one Elliott. I I love that majestic musical masterpiece. Currently touring across USA and Canada hitting up Philadelphia Washington Seattle Vancouver and Saskatoon at the end January plus a ton of European dates to follow here with hot. Tears is left fullback thankful this week. I'm just onto the wound after feel comedy. The Nath. The River Bridge He the storm in your skin. All Mantilla Tama. What's star whispered to me and Grand Hotel me all the time mums? But don't you solo curve Salo. ehlo wait uh.

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Richard Crooks-A Chapter Of My Life

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Richard Crooks-A Chapter Of My Life

"Our our rich evening. And welcome all tonight champs. Molly we've author richard crooks richard. We wanna talk your fantastic book. I am currently reading granddad. What was football like in the seventies but first let's have a. Let's talk about your back catalog and you as a person. How did you become a journalist and an also really an author author and that was simply. Because i went to a game with my oldest grandson charlie and that was about five six years ago and that was it reading having to be against the mighty cento wednesday and it made me really. Think about experience of going to football for him as an eight-year-old In two thousand and fifteen compared to when i first went to football back in one thousand nine hundred sixty four as an eight year old and it was chalk and cheese and i hang on. This is an interesting for me. the him it was. That's how it is now. It's going to be going forward. But he just made me want to put down on paper what it was. That really was to me the experiences. I'd had going to football. How i traveled to football getting in what was the cost and all the things that went with it yes to degree. Some of the games as well of course television which was all but nonexistent in the sixties so it was all all new experiences for him made me think about what it was like fifty odd years ago and daij of between seven and ten a think of the three most magical years as a football supporter is. It's when you first walk into your football grand. You smell the grass. You look the colors you see the crowd you almost fall in love with football there then you make me smile just thinking about it. You're absolutely right now as you say just going through the wooden from the data on the other side because the boys choose among were in now go climb up the steps the me the steps to hills the spine cop and he was he was just a magical experience and the floodlight says well they would just wham never seen anything like the previous toy. You have done previous books haven't you. Yes the first. One was grandad. What was football. Like in the nine hundred six and that followed the same as i've been describing how things were when i first went to football having written that book i then don't hang on the nineteen seventies. Looks interesting one as well. Just taking that same share their own. What was it. Like in the seventies develop further After after the seventies book. I i did one on the sheffield dhabi wednesdays gang which means the most sure yourself it will be the birmingham birmingham. Villa game for me is a sheffield darby. And the most recent book. I've written but was football like in the nineteen eighty two so i enjoy writing and researching and the way that i write is to supplement what i research or put damn we personal experiences. 'cause i think for me brings some flavor out into the book and the experiences as well and try to have in the book as best i can conversational style. What i don't like any written while in reading is an academic type of things just to really try and make it more human. It really comes across in that way. It almost comes across as seventies voluble where slot the old testament in the new testament. The ezio and you love shifa weddings. And then the new testament is the seventies and then you get into exactly what the seventies was a. He's a fantastically written book. The attention to detail is absolutely magnificent. The cover the front cover. Is that all conic picture. When played shifa wednesday in into seventy two and a half decide. And i've said this on many occasions that spoiling cop with no roof on it looks as though took the clouds. You're very counting. Your comments. About a rocking. Thank you very much. That spying copy is fabulous as a be only as a picture and everything else but when it rained that was the last place you wanted to be. You got absolutely soaked to the skin. Clearly there's no roof or anything else that that is a picture dramatics being described as that al perfume because it goes did go up in talk corner and it did look like an out. And i think he's a fabulous description the alkap humility when it's gotta pat crowned on it and he's like it's just it's it's one of the most magnificent sites in football it just really is truly incredible that that from pig and i love the television israelis and old tv your cup of coffee glasses. And what was that book on. Looks like brazil versus england from the nineteen seventy will cook. I think it is the designer who put a lot together me. Describe your absolutely and on the back. He's serov red. Caught the globe and england Sorry wembley legion waited. Versi sunderland was the past and that is on the back sunderland fan headcorn that and got up in the back. I don't think is assembling found. I think he could probably was. The coventry city supported k. But but why the program on the bike. Because i think the of the seventies cup finals. That's the one that really stands out as being the upset of upsets when second division sunderland beat the favourites leeds united at wembley obstacle famous running across the pitch at the end to montgomery making a fabulous safe from laura davies. Coleman commentating thinking. That's the goal. And then he had to soak himself played. Come back on. It and so fabulous saved jim montgomery and ford field goals goals to seal it for the this. Yeah you'd absolutely roy a thinking even to this day. If you're watching that as it happens that he's a goal. Jim montgomery saved. That bull is quite incredible and has to be one of the greatest saves ever in the history of football. I don't think you're all the seventy three f i fall arguably was the biggest join killing co fallen on of the of the seventy s ransom. Great form of course in the nineteen seventies legal and f. I cope and what we would just briefly talking about that. Guy when centers. Light sheffield wednesday. Any kid actually go to school that dan chef told off an worst untold off the following day. D'amato we've got a games day that afternoon which was good news because you could bum. Cough games relatively straightforward but other. Labs in did they get into real trouble anyway so they required a lot of land suit. Didn't go to school. you caught right. Was it worth it. Oh absolutely no question just to say. I've seen pelly play Was did just something else on wednesday totally class. They lost two nil on the day but pele was something else. Actually the wednesday plays hung off him. Didn't go in. I don't think they certainly didn't going fouling or anything like that but the experience was unbelievable. The other thing. That was really interesting. So i stood on the corner as well. You've got people coming up from. I remember people from stoke from plymouth. Some and around the country come up just to have sabbath being an sing santos and i've seen pelly play ca. Santos did do a few games. That didn i remember. I come to birmingham and they played aston villa villa park and they they certainly played think it was in nineteen seventy one. They played chelsea in jamaica. Jump bonds actually was a ballboy that day. Wow i knew that played at villa park. Give us the same. same here. Declared when yeti but. I wasn't aware of the other so well from john. Collins boy populous. Yeah alan hudson fan. When he was doing the gentleman's evening. John bonds insulting it was. It was quite incredible. Now the seventies wasn't the greatest decayed for sheffield wednesday. And you really hit you. Lowest lows didn't you. Hey did you feel is growing open for the first time ever a great team like sheffield wednesday in an all that conversations with people whether you know one or two interactions on social media familiar shefa wednesday. The biggest club in yorkshire in okay legion. We don't really had a wonderful time but when you look at the history of football sheffield wednesday from the other biggest thank you. History is great. It stands out. But then when you you're actually there in the seventies in sheffield you've got the other club. United actually for them. The early seventies moving into that pete year so they've really rubbed it in for us. That we were going. Downhill is going downhill rapidly. And they were in the limelight wednesday where the decline was setting in. And i think you being kind in how you describing wednesday because wednesday would call an doubtedly wednesdays lowest stabbing factor just a plug another book that An order written john dyson. There is a book called our lowest ebb wednesday and it relates to the nineteen seventies. And it's a fascinating ingredient. It just shows how much a famous bake so-called can fall and the impact. It has on people because people have as you well know and people will know very emotionally attached to their focal club and he has a real impact on people. Absolute like almost fainting to division four as well deny who coined credible shook down the spine. That it was it was a last game. Decided it would be wednesday or southend. United relegated into division four. I actually wasn't always wait university of the time. I couldn't get back on the phone to me. Daddy got the phone next to bbc. Radio sheffield commentating so it cost me a lot. Attempt coins that but in the end was To two wednesday but that was at the hell of a relief and there is a connection to you and say thin. But we're not going to talk about because we want people to read the book. There is also toss of a coin to the university that you decided to go. And that was for footballing raisins. But we're not gonna italian body by that because we want them to read the book and it really. There's a lot of humor in the book. You also will you. Too big sheffield wednesday supporter. You went and worked at line on the turnstiles didn't you. So you seen football in sheffield from another angle as well and that was an experience and a half absolutely right and we. This is seventy three. Four season wednesday went doing particularly well as a young teenage light of wanted some money and automate certain found out there looking to turn celebrators at bramall lane and would mean we can go to the wednesday away games many of anyway so we went down. We take on the tone. Subtle practices and experiences were invested comas. Something else and remember three three particular games there Standard one was against manchester united. Remember these really went to the ticket games and we were turned celebrate. The various terraces the manchester united game. There are lots of people who tried to climb over the The turnstile without paying and coming into an i call the policemen over and said look getting everybody jumping over here. So could you just stand and be a deterrent. And he did The lead united game last game of the season and leads. We're gonna be crowned as champions. They all but were champions. And we run a terrorist for the short and straight talk ten style and i was the last style it was closed and it was forcibly closed too many people in the ground but the other interesting thing behind that is they had no way of knowing how many people in the ground other than just looking at it is site only six hundred and fifty people. I remember them saying to me. Six hundred and fifty eight with come through your turn silence to hours which is some going at be. They used to take an awful lot away from they still do. Have you got a favorite year from the decayed corrina guessing. Seventy nine one to in the box. Indiana massacre anyone would say the books. They must no questions to nine. Yeah yeah what. Was that game. Like firsthand from terry cohen. Those now why that wednesday where we're gonna lows you know. Were a top of the pops going into the guy and it was kicked off. Eleven o'clock wasn't in the morning on the site so of size yorkshire police absolutely and that you described the context do very well united to talk to the division wednesday. Was something like eight on. the on. The day of the game was the first time. Wednesday played united in the czech hooked on before ten years united being ruling the roost in the city wednesday. I think generally were at the degree of foreboding about it because they were top of the division with strong I've read more about it since the clearly before the game. Terry kern include is the best person to talk with wednesday. Were really high top before it. absolutely packed Boxing day early morning kickoff. Little bit of rain coming down an spider so ian miller schools wednesday's goal. I think after about twenty eight twenty nine music was a hell of a goal into the cop cop and relief. That went up from. The crowd was just immense celebration. Yes let's go old. And yes the baiting. The the red and whites from points of view. But who's just utter relief. And i think that point any wednesday. We'll take it. We won one. let's go clearly. This halftime approached. They hit the post at the other end on. Everyone was just on age and then come the second half. It was just fabulous. Fantastic the the I struggle to really describe what the feeling was other than one of utter joy from a wednesday views. Absolute joyful let that box in may went to nil nil. Cherry kuhn scored in their matt midst. Finish it off with a penalty or all. Three of those goals in front of the united supporters elections langen. So that just rebidding for them. They would enjoy very similarly when they beaten us. How we feel when that happens but it was just a fantastic day now every replied that scored a goal that day celebrated it. However terry curran senator brian in a way. I don't really terry. Curran would celebrate if he forgot to back of fortune coins that the you know throughout nyc and the also done somebody as well that day tell you say it was at the other end of their pictures of it and read it of signet bank. Just celebrate while not wildly. You've just waving at. The united is not a good idea scored against them three nil down but yes fabulous day and what we're talking about. Tc and we're talking to this. Well we've got a mention the in sheffield tony curry. You had to two kings of sheffield. Really the why we see in the seventies terry cohen and tony currie both showman. Both mavericks both pliers of the holiest ability and both should have gone on the international stage and got fifty caps plus absolutely no question and Whilst for wednesday going to new saying hang on at times that tony currie had the tc tommy craig. Craig was a good player. Actually curry was will beater. It was fabulous play the skill. He got the the arrogance. It got the showmanship. It got he knew how to play. He had other players in his pocket he was he was fabulous to watch and on those occasions. Turnstile operator be sold again later on. You could just see. See the quality of the class. And i agree with you. It's criminal that he and two recurring and get more international recognition in both of those boys have to say a great fellas as well and both. Tc's season terrier tony currie when he scored a goal used to love to blow kisses to the crowd as well deny that. But those players you dedicated a chapter in your book to the showman and the mavericks. So let's just briefly. Talk about some of those standout players of the seventies. Because i know that we look at football when the kids look at football and football's it's faster it's furious. It's it's a great game is it's exciting finale. Defeatist of football was the seventies. We had everything cannot decay it. Oh absolutely and he says the characters the come through from that the carries the curran's stunned bowls the rodney most wittington. The alan hudson billions undone. They they would cook some thousands on the gate just by playing. I mean of course. It shouldn't forget best. Because george best but certainly the beginning dot decade Was certainly box office to say the least and he was a really excellent play. Some nice nice stories to Are reminding myself about some rodney marsh and evidently winning wentz and cooled up forgetting against was general from seventy two and having a discussion before the game. Now i wanted to know. Now who's gonna take penalties for tonight. If we get on and bobby moore. Emily hughes under arrest wasn't interested. I didn't want to take a penalty. Rodney senate i'll take off right not settled in rodney's taking the penalties and rodney said. There's only one problem. I'll you haven't picked for the taint which we all really great players and just to extend it for. I've mentioned george bets I saw george best a few times actually saw at bramall lane. Lean a seventy two. And he didn't have a particularly good game really after him on the time by then the camera character and the crowd singing as georgie best superstar carries handbag and weather's of bra and this thing was getting louder and louder and louder and he took himself had an by his hip and just walk old a lonely penalty area. As if just taking the mick out there he just brought the house down with fantastic. And i saw the good fortune to make built your best and nash. Many years later. And i said to george about this particular incident knee said yet costs are member. What would have been the reaction. Just put two fingers up. The crowd would come mental and it just got got the crowd absolutely writing to the wrong. Time is brilliant. And of course supermac on his debut for newcastle against liverpool in nineteen seventy-one supermac superstar. Many goals if you scored so far. An and there was a lot of songs that that went round. there was also whereas you've gone away. You've gone stanley. Balls and stan was just orchestrate in the away supporters. i mean they're why supports is giving the mavericks big style but they did because die fan. You look those players as well a new roy they put they put a day put thousands on a tendencies open. Dan the land. The only people that appeared not to like them was the england. Football team managers and famously. The seventies when rivi was manager. You got charlie george rodney marsh. L. notes stand balls. Tony currie frank worthington. You got the boys together and training session and says you're not more plans to are have sat raving die then then no question. What a waste up so criminal waste just going to tangent for a moment because you remind me about the crowd. A full seventy two hillsborough wednesday against billingham sitting And it was burning own millwall to go up into versus division and assigned from sheffield. Darby cup semifinal. I never heard a loud awake contingent than the blue nosers that they they got to war with minutes to spare from the end of the game on the keep right onto the end of the road. Chant was just a nominal and it was everyone's upon their seats and the wednesday cheated the blue nosers day it was just fantastic atmosphere within the ground moisture control the as on the back of more next standard justly. Something that it's in your blood. Is it with football. Absolutely yes no question. You are the get or you don't get it. Who are your favorite playa. Playa playas during that time and briefly. I want to talk about one of sheffield. Wednesday's foy nation gret while greatest goal goalscorers duly because he was on both sides of the developed wasn't a yet he was Duly made his name playing career. Stanley very suddenly brought to an end game at preston. North end Where he's challenge on the goalkeeper resulted in in him and not only breaking his legs take talks with lynn preston and they found that it was infected with gangrene and in those days they have no option but to save his life by taking these amputating it but that that's Tragic end to his career that he was phenomenal as a madonna. Urban is telling you. The goalkeepers used to run away when chang because he it was him all the bowl i the goalie or the ball duly wasn't interested booth go and he sought goals in one season for wednesday and then he became manager early seventies for wednesday having been in the pool office the development fund. Everything else the manager that is dream job on wednesday in decline anyway. And i think he did a good the job but The most polling absolutely heart wrenching decision was made to sack them. Christmas in you. I'm not just a this was wrong up to grown from every direction but the director said while he's in the best interest of sheffield wednesday. It wasn't it was in their best interest but even day i think on reflection would say wrong decision. It crushed duly and standardly. So he vowed never ever to go back to breath as a result of what happened to him he joined several tonight could be some years later. On the commercial side and commercial director commercial director developed to managing the restrooms on the board and was very very successful. Full sheffield united. And he's the only the only person in my view who will not have a word against in wednesday's or united sickle. He actually came back to ills. Rip for sheffield dhabi. His first i gang dyke ninety two three. It was a night game and that the whole crowd. Roses woman to hang. I don't mind admitting. I was tearful and many others as well. When duly came out onto the pitch meant that much some emotional an absolute legend of sheffield legends of the game. There's also Shape on the malls mentioned in the book but again we want paper to read. The book is a funny story about on the malls. Now that that happened did he couldn't happen. But indeed it was boda synonymous with. Fa cup semifinals as well. You had a few those. Didn't you in the seventies and good fortune to go to to five dollars beginning in another instinct. It was easy to get tickets sake. I like oh tickets. The man united leaked. It was easy to get tickets from. The home club never happened now. You went there and atmosphere with fantastic Again you passionate. The fa cup relent. Something in the nineteen seventies. It was the gang before the final. The one that stands out the most to me was the also against sunderland gang. Nanking seventy three. Everyone finds it also arsenal at one. The couple of seasons Something was was second division and done very love to get the we were on the with the subli- coaches a sibling did it. And some deserved it. But what really stands out from. That is the motion passionately emotion of the stumbling supporters. And they would just they were crying. Everyone was crying with could see in the distance but all around us that completed emotion was just unbelievable. It's look what football means the people and they really comes across in the great l. To them saying there was a few fans crawling as well along saw that night of looking at the champions of the seventies awesome daba liverpool leeds dhabi liverpool liverpool forest liverpool liverpool liverpool. Definitely were the team. The seventies highway between knowing sixty five nineteen seventy five. It was legion audited. And don rivers lead. You know it. They were the team to beat and famously went twenty. Nine games unbeaten seventy three seventy four season. Well until they they turned up for the victoria. Grind it stunk took to illinois. Lay that a goal. From joe jordan disallowed then owned. The boys went to work on mnay free to winners and again. Another iconic game of the seventy s well. I'm more than impressed with that. Look danny smith. I think is absolutely key out. So you're absolutely right about eight lead united. I've grown up with leeds united through the sixties being the opposition and they were dirty side and they went out of the way to in my view. Live up to the reputation in the mid late sixties. But having said all of that they're actually good football side as well when they allowed. That to compare comes through. Paul fletcher the burnley. Centre-forward told me don dunleavy assembled a team of assassins book. You'd want any of them in your team. Get up -solutely roy. We had some dry copses while not only degree of the league cup in the fa co but we had the watney nicola texaco cup. And we had the anglo-italian italian where to go out and caused miami in various italian cities in fact weinstock seats in the seventeenth. What internet an audience with the pope won't better yet. No you're absolutely right. Those those cups of the texaco cup of onto commercial cups kenyon in the seventies. Show you that big. But some sending made an impact Aware of the stoke. The pope but sounds great. Yes it was so again. Wonderful games wonderful moments. All conic are conic games. None more than the donkey kick. That was banned at the end of the season. Really tall and the hunt again. Things that we started the in the seventies football started a long time ago in the eighteen hundreds. But you seemed as though the seventies with that that decayed where it all comes to fruition commercialization in the programs the football league review inside the programs football really was redefining itself. In that decayed wasn't nothing you're absolutely right A whole heap of stuff subject come together and just wanting i point you might just then they really kill the only country against everton. Now the donkey kick it was real innovation. Imagine engine inovation and it was well. That's really made it. Stand up then. The innovation is suddenly k. Boston has always in that crazy. Absolutely crazy and when i stopped the donkey kick in nineteen seventy seven. We'll anybody done another another free cake. That almost changed the did china fortunes of nottingham forest because it promoted nothing in forest while they were in the go to tara. Molina and winecoff kenny habit. Who run onto me. Volley did back of the net one nil to wolves last game of the season. Faris got promoted. Never and then forest went on and won the european cup season after the seventies was great for domination of english clubs in europe as well wasn't it will undoubtedly on just before europe. But they. I think you're listening. You brought out. In other ways the kick the nature of the kicked in color inhibited fabulous from what you described that the other thing that was also clearly got clubs like darby county nothing in forest who could make it and be league champions in the seventies and they were not big clubs But they could yes looking dominated and as you say leads early wrong but for those clubs to the billy champions clearly. They were the best team in that season in that league in england. Something that actually you don't say nowadays and again against just underlining the point the seventies enabling to happen meritocracy about the football in about -bility. You've got the team together. Manage the players come together. You could be top of the league and windy and yes sorry moving onto your observation about europe. Yes no question. The english clubs started to make an impact in europe Liverpool won their first european kept in the seventies nine hundred seventy seven and eight so they started clearing pressure on your lead. United lost against by munich in paris in seventy five but a lot of controversy about that game goes being disallowed for often various other things that leads to a very unlucky and nothing to at the end of the decade and they got their european cups as well so so yes. It dominates the european cup in the uefa cup as well and the european cup winners cup cook to. There wasn't many years in the seventies the in english or scottish didn't win european. Now's a good point. That's a very good point in good. Iran and in nineteen seventy one seventy two season. That was the closest darby. Wouldn't i'm fifty points. Lates come second. When they got beta wolverhampton wanderers that last game of the season on fifty seven points liverpool at fifty seven points and manchester cece also had fifty seven points. It was nip until we also dips. Which town would ag- right. Same at the seventies stoke see with a great same in the seventies as worship genealogy for a short on because i think that one season before they got relegated they were a belief fogle six points off the tall themselves. They were in fantas refund side in in the early nineteen seventies. no question and there an exciting site. There weren't the only he describes some exciting side. The billy got your the adrenaline pumping round. Just just being there and watch these side. United as you say stoke city dhabi countered. They're exciting to watch will also alleged briberies. We had legal. Let's talk was the first triple decker. Nine stand erected. The stan when pits at stamford bridge Partially paid for the silent. Peyser osgood and allen. They winning two incredible debt which almost bankrupt at chelsea sheffield when they built their stand. Olma well that really was the start of the families of sheffield. Didn't of course it. All trafford the first private boxes. That was another thing that happened in the seventies as well. The whole remain. You're absolutely right whole range of software and the club's crippled by debt. By doing the says these changes didn't recover both clubs for some time because chelsea go really gated until in the seventies interesting tunsil and again. I'll just reminding myself. All the grounds ninety two grounds in use begin on january. Nine hundred seventy Said she wanted us grounds. No bull that. So long period of time that they've changed and moved on that underlines the the need for football clubs to improve improve that grounds and they done that because frankly one of the things not good about. Seventy s as a generality was the facilities for the spectators The time it didn't bother me. I looked. I just enjoyed going what i was used to. And everything that went with. It was a fabulous atmosphere. But actually if you're trying to attract new people to ground It wasn't so good and all the that time as well the hooliganism came to the full. Put some people of going against the she'll and fences were erected in fact chelsea. I think can bites putting electric one. Lead didn't stay a breach. He did i think. I think that's just moving into the eight two. Yeah you're absolutely right. You could put an electric fence in fortunately was never Operational the intent was absolutely match of the day was was was on. Tv a bank ten o'clock as a young one at to go to bed after de camry whites me sister to go to sleep. Great dan this dads to watch me. Hey rose ply. We had some coney programs as well in the seventies. didn't we sat Was jewish to treat. Wasn't it for kids food. Be a mom and dad and there was not shows entertainment. The whole thing and it was real family occasion topped off with much of the day which was Most must blue stuff on. On a saturday night. Absolutely starsky and kojak is where we have some right. Like ghani and colombo colombo was in the. Did we not win the world cup in the seventies we had a tremendous woke up open until we played a western land and income off franz beckenbauer. The run of the show. And they come back from it will dame to knock england daves three two in nineteen seventy four arguably we add the greatest group of pliers sadly the polls up to say when closely described dead gentleman as a clown but that knowing the clown and the circus that kommt. It's really a Piddles on apple right to be true. Certainly piddle don't operate as well your questions about some into to west germany for the finals. In some scotland coast went in seventy four and scotland again went into the argentina. Welcome fundraising in seventy ice again. In seventeen england didn't qualify. And when you look at the the of fantastic football players that we had in the seventies. It's quite remarkable really. We didn't win the world cup because if we were ever going to win it will come. The seventies was the decayed that we will go into it. I think you're right. And i'm sure you're right and part of it comes but to to to that really the players could turn the game individually. Who who if you let them get on with it and do it. Managed the england management lent interested ready being the forefront of that. And it's too late. Don't go looking back. But looking back that i'm sure is at the core of long. We didn't do much better than we should. And i agree with you on the opportunities indefinitely there for england to win the absolutely and we also had shirt sponsorships kettering toys. Wasn't it we derek dougan. Yes you're absolutely right. And then we think it was in seventy six seventy six cup final sampson manchester united yet. Admiral was actually the tracks talks. The southampton and bbc had a problem with them. Coming out and out moving emblazoned on different to their tracksuit tops. So there's some hasty discussions. Evidently they had admiral on the back is the trucks. Talks with is even better for admiral because they much more exposure but these are the kind of thing nominee seventies the concerns about advertising by the bbc. What they couldn't couldn't show yes by the end of the seventy s sponsorship was really starting to take hold for many football clubs on the ball. We've run on a football focus as well with was wasn't i. You couldn't go to the guy who they watching one of the of the we had the big match. We had star soccer in the midlands. What did you have every sheffield. What was your job is your take the on. I'm trying to think what will the time using suny keith. Macklin to begin with in the early seventies who was the commentator and he was well known for being the songs of praise Comtesse that the host songs of praise and actually for short while we have martin. Tyler ended his teeth as a broadcaster with yorkshire television commercial television before obviously going on and making a very successful career with commercial television remote particularly scarring. We also had the great debate. Nelia punch between reverend coffee disney on options. What was your was that. Y'all think you're right. Yes you're absolutely right and that is to say the least. They're not very good blood between the two of them and Lasted the forty four days of the united and said that said legion Players allegedly you can throw your medals in been You've won you've not want them fairly or something like that. So that's not going to get people on site. To begin with. That was close. That was absolutely one hundred percent true as well. A i di- When he met the leads to team in fact that season the season before as well legionella tedious. To start a week earlier than anybody else in the preseason. That's what donald they've got him in seventy three seventy four season When they when they won the all. Donna datavision that he wanted the team to go. Unbeaten all season that ended at stokes. But roy was still on holiday when the leads. Playas is already back at trying and allen clark system. Bryant cloth researching nervous man when he first met all the training ground. Yeah and he said get a big door spin and oh in metals eighteen and then he went round every player in new york in year when he went ran. They all until they come to eddie gray and he was very disparaging about degray with these injuries. Allen clocks estimate it was quite funny but it was absolutely out of order. But that's what brian was like. But there was also a very noise. And coined soy to brian in fact sniffer said to drawing clovers. The right man for legion it. It was just the wrong telling me now. The really interesting listening to you saying that some of the soil certainly not all of them but in that context and sending obviously not how to win friends and influence people and get people on your cycling fist. Full off that. Yes as well. You've said about some. He did have a very generous site to him. There are some true stories about what he gave to cheriton how he supported charities and people who were on the streak so there's a very very clear different sides. Brian cliff which is very strong. Call to absolutely one of the The generally sit with working closely broiling actually wrote him a check to pay off his mortgage. Coffee was very generous man. It just didn't take full slightly also used the water. The pitches a lot. Nothing he got that from waddington. When a used of water the victoria peach the when brought him back yet. I think i've got something in the book about About that zain. Done the groundsman instructed because you've said the instructed the grounds will wall to the The baseball ground. It'll be berry heavy actually because we play on it so much. We'll be the best planning on this pitch compared to any of the any the opposition the away teams that come so and that i think upset may well have upset. Lots of teams particularly upset. You venter's when they came across the european cook game in the mid seventies so amount of many facets and we have to talk about bill shankly because arguably one of the greatest managers is of the seventies bill shankly who who retaliated retaliate was pretty much the end of the charity show guy media lead. I liverpool didn't they cloth every leads and then not long after that he did while. I don't know if i'm retiring. And the vox pops of the of the liverpool supporters. Who have their laughing. La in chantilly still with shankly's gone. Now you joking bill. Shankly still livable manager. I mean that was one of the most mad tawian's of the seventies. I remember that as a kid. Really well chris. Shanklin game was one mile yet. No doubt then changli dominated He would have been the first high profile media friendly manager. I think but i think he announced his retirement. At the end of the seventy three four seasons. I remember being rounded up a mates house. Couple of dozen is on the radio. Bill is retired and no one could believe it it It gone and just one league and pump you right. You did lead them out in the charity shield. I think that's something they want to come to and still people have tried to get to the bottom of liability retire. I'm not sure that anybody actually has. I take read. That paisley observed turn. He thought he was because shankly built another great liverpool team and he was concerned he couldn't build another one and that he wouldn't be quite as good as maybe whether that's not i don't know but he was a great manager and it was the guy responsible for putting little the napkin. Link foundations for the great could club that they that they are absolutely because i mean liverpool when they won the league totaling forty six forty seven when stoke city anita because dan stein matthews's gun left stoke in there to blackpool and as a consequence insane stoked pitch elated and liverpool won the lay. But don't tell shanty walked in unveil the known saying fifty nine had little really. I mean they were a second division team liverpool. Shanty light the foundations shankley. The boot room was already whitey. The the boot room was there. It was just waiting for somebody to breathe life into it and at that magic dostam. That's what bill shankly did deliver left site absolutely and gum. They repair much in the shadow of editon until he arrived at a over. The history of the one thing he reminds me i said at the end of the seventies fulled and the guy who i knew very well. Lyrical steve king. Nothing is in the book. But i remember him saying to me. You know. we went up to melwood To see liverpool train him in a mate went melwood liberal train which was from london and he went up there. They got their shankly said to them. That's doing we've come to look you train. What's the team train. And he said okay. Fine at bulb want you to take training today. Gopal paisley. I'm talking to these lacks under each spent an hour and a half token to them. They were just blown over. But that was the nature of the guy. He just love football love football supporters and he gave his time to people who looked genuinely interested in football and we're passionate about liverpool football club. Oh absolutely i mean. The kids apply football on the jumpers for goalposts shanks us. Live the knock on his door and said you don't comply football. He be applying for with them as well. I can just incredible talking about foreign cars. We also add players or certainly. I play the used to jump over in the sentences as well and he was a decent implies. While you don't can mckenzie alma come into the showman maverick. A great player. Great play against someone who would bring the cranston superstars Sets wall program for ballplayers. Ordinarily didn't do that good on superstars highway malcolm macdonald did and kevin kagan date stumbles balza. Think it was. 'cause don shanks and put that stanley entered the full at superstars and decide that he was absolutely. Awful is an understatement. Nearly shuts herself in the foot when he was logged doing the lobby. The golden standard neighbors golden before it probably at the quality street gang bury manchester. Put that to shoot get snow. We had some bright rock bands as well do we added music at the seventies was fantastic as well defined a decade Much so hold the whole thing together. populace tons but the music was is. This is the football because it wasn't one st john. It was like teams. That could win. the league. There was there was a number of them. You put your money on liverpool one year but but it could be one of ten so when you get to the book. You wouldn't really know one and famously. In the nine saying seventy five seventy six season when the season finished had you put that money on liverpool top of the lake. Yes they won the league. Didn't i don't keep you didn't appeal. Now they did. Yeah but on the last game of the season they actually works up to the twenty but liverpool damian and after and one and then took the league championship. You did absolutely yes. Does that all karnik moments. With a qbr pliers. Watching live pulls guy i against wolverhampton wondrous through memory. Remember the dates on the freight but you actually ride. Keep you talk on the last day of the season. And what's the team queens. Park rangers were as well die. Had everything did deny yes. A billion the billion three front. Since i'm stunned of caboose and dave thomas was playing to them. yeah bill quality. Sorry the it unfortunate not to win the league that season by all accounts but some your thoughts on i think he applied some of the greatest football of the of the nonsmoking. Seventy six season. And i think he was that season they started off but beating liverpool when gerry francis scored that goal. They needed the goal of the season. Your memory fantastic. Just love in football. Yes absolutely well richard. It's been a fantastic trip down memory lane and of course. We had the football magazines as well. We should we go. We had the annuals or more. I shoot annual inau insane. Seventy two and of still gutty to these brilliant absolutely brilliant yes i think Football monthly was was still out Got the wrong title there Because they have jimmy hills football weekly. Which i think in the early seventies daniels. Y- you're absolutely right. They can and does as well the real quality really interesting and Yet against not separate genre coming through the decades to follow and football sticker books as well we add. The football books paninis. I will cup. Album was nineteen seventy woke up and look how they've grown not just for the world cup of elle's look lookout. They grown since the a whole heap of stuff. That round football and portable fabric of football started to come through in the nineteen seventies. And make you the game that we know and love and then. So coen's Kids is really and the centennary f. I fallen that leads. You know he'd one. Which was molly. I if i fall in cola. The allen scored the winning goal. A wonderful dog and sniffer in his own. Words says always gonna volley but when it's in the bull combing. It was dropping so what you dogs edited. Winning the back in the next one was the one. Where mick jones have your. Yeah yeah fantastic members. What are you working on at the moment. Richard what's next for you. What's horizon just just started with the one thousand nine hundred. The six as we talked about the seventies eighties came out a few months ago. Up just started working on the nineteen ninety. Isn't really interesting stuff because the things that happened in the nineties Which i enjoy writing. That's the just enjoy lake Sitting down unloading from my own memory. Canessa way i try to write unloading from my own memory to begin with. What are the things that i remember putting down on paper now. How important without a they're going to be helpful. Supplementing things book so looking forward to say developing now and hopefully having published a year. Two tongue willie a published by pitch because this book is published by pitch where your other books published by pitch and they do publish some wonderful football books and also got to give mention out. Multiple books dot com the do wonderful job promoting some of the fantastic toy that all by. Don't read them all sorts of random. You re bits of apps. I look books mommy's i you're gonna buy another book that you're not gonna rate already. One of the days at the finished book was published by deep published. That every other book is being published by pitching thankfully appreciate pitching published. The woman in tears and i couldn't agree more. I think are fabulous that publisher they give rights as the opportunity to put different subject forward and if they think the idea is goodwill nil support it a marketer but everything behind it and i'd like to yes make becoming about pitch but also as you have said at the my books as well i think there are fabulous a organization and they promote and put forward and good books a wide range of books at breadth. Books that you can just get him to didn't understand me off and if you want to try to east and I think that's another thing that's comes through recent times. The quality of the focal books britney subject to the covered just fabulous. That's what i love and the podcast as well. I'm always listening to people's podcasts. The people's podcasts. You learn so much talking to people listening to people by reading the books and the of being educated as well ball donaldson Tony currie by terry colin and lots of the foam pliers that that i've interviewed over the last few years and just so many wonderful things that have gone on the going on and i'm looking forward to speaking to you again when the knowing tease book is finished because electronic as well because it was the stocks of sky. Tell you he wasn't a whole new sky tv. The whole thing on television light lively games hope bosman transfer so on and so forth. I just voluntarily go back. I think you do In terms of the podcasts. In the plays you talk to and we can listen to as a result of older find work in excellent artwork that you could in is just fantastic to be able to listen to these people to people who idols for us in the in the sixties and seventies had. Jim maceio You talking to him and he was my boyhood hero. Sheffield wednesday in it left wednesday and sixty-nine but some of the stories that came through you told them to hear me just while the stem not use the word. Wow and the he's a hero and the other guys you told that they were they were heroes too and you bring that across. And they are extensible and the human beings and it's distributors stores absolutely fantastic and you comments. Tonight's and also Being able to do this podcast the absolutely enjoyed it. Surly live late. The feeling is absolutely reciprocated. It's been a wonderful and you're right. Jim mccalliog legend wherever he's been he had a few clubs. He played a lot. In the midlands. As well for for wolverhampton one played in them big historic games caught on cup semi finals in in europe as well and has got a book coming this year as an terry collins. Five sheffield wednesday player as well. Fantastic should look forward to reading both of their Episode like well till next on richard. Can i thank you very much and thank you. Everybody for listening its bendable. Thank you very much as well. Thanks bye-bye j. consciously. Thank you rush it.

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What Happened? What Now? Whats Next?

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What Happened? What Now? Whats Next?

"Okay coming down in three to Enron's welcome once again to another you describe it. Franken thirty-one thoughts podcast We recorded a podcast Wednesday afternoon and realized quickly Wednesday night that we need to do an update. So here we are Alongside Elliott Friedman and doing this Elliott About an hour after the. Nhl Announces Officially That they are suspending. The season going on hiatus and in the Commissioner's words quotes. Our goal is to resume play as soon as it is appropriate and prudent so that we will be able to complete the season and a word the Stanley Cup complete the season and award the Stanley Cup as much as this season is on pause in the NHL mind. They plan to finish up some part of a regular season award the Stanley Cup in the play offs. I heard on the conference call today between the commissioner and the various governors. He made that point very quickly and very clearly to a so. It's not just a press. Release statement it is the message. He gave to the top officials from each team that we want to award a Stanley Cup this year. If I could just say one thing to everybody listening to this podcast today you and me and all our producer were at work. We were just in the studio. You and me with Anthony and Justin up and I will go to Our main studios to do the show tonight with Caroline and Brian Bite I think. Cj is going to be there too. I am going to take some time off work. I have told our family that we are GonNa stay home and You know everybody out there. Make good choices. I heard the Jim Nill. Today's signed off. I interview in Dallas by saying make good choices and I don't like the lecture people because I don't like anyone telling me what to do so I don't like to tell anyone else what to do but this is important time make good choices. Wash your hands. Stay home as much as you can stay out of big public gatherings were only going to get through this with the minimum possible damage. If we all do it together and what I really hope for forever. Listening to this podcast. Right now is I hope. There is a birth rate spike. Exactly nine months from today corona virus babies. You're they come at. What point on Wednesday? Did it become obvious to you? Elliott Friedman that the NHL was going to have to follow suit to what the NBA did Wednesday night. You Know Jeff that will go down as one of the most surreal nights of broadcasting career and sharing with you and Brian and our crew In the Toronto Studio Matt Maher Strom was there Kathy Broderick running the show. It was really weird like that to me. Is The craziest thing about the last twenty. Four hours is how quickly the story changed. I quickly set the scene for people. So we're doing the Scotiabank Win Hockey Program in advance. And others in the Winnipeg jets and we do the pre game and of course we have to talk about what's happening With the covert nineteen situation than so we do an update in the pre game. And then after we do our intro. We mentioned that you know coming up in the first intermission We'll talk about the Columbus blue jackets playing an empty arena game against the Pittsburgh Penguins San Jose Sharks Have Mt Lina Games plan throughout March as well. Now it's going to be one of our intermission. Updates the minute we get to the Green Room we get to Lotus. Elliott's phone starts going Christmas tree and every couple of moments Elliott. It was holy smokes. Or Oh my gosh. Or I can't believe this or Whoa. It was just bombshell. After bombshell the game itself on the screen in front of US became probably nothing more than wallpaper role looking at it. But I'm not sure how many of us other you me or Brian are released seeing it or really watching it because the big story. And it's a Winnipeg jets final four to cal. Hunter scores. Who thirty seven and thirty eight. The big story is what's happening in the NBA and what that means for the NHL Continue. Yes and you know that was the thing like you're sitting there and all of you listening to this. You are following it on social media with the rest of us. Oklahoma CITY UTAH. Game cancelled unforeseen circumstances. The game tonight has been postponed leaving the arena tonight and do so in an orderly fashion. Thank you for coming out tonight. We are all safe Tom. Hanks Rita Wilson announced via twitter. That they of both tested for the disease while in Australia. Also since we have been on the air tonight somebody who you will know by name. Tom Hanks Academy Award winning actor. Tom Hanks and his wife the actress. Rita Wilson have announced that they have both tested positive for corona virus. Tom Hanks announcing it tonight in a tweet saying the couple. Who are there in Australia right now? They began to feel tired like they had colds. Some body aches slight fever. Rita Wilson apparently additionally had some chills. Rita had some chills that came and went to play things right as is needed in the world right now. We were tested for the corona virus and were found to be positive. Well now what to do next. The medical officials have protocols that must be followed we hanks's will be tested observed. An isolated for as long as public health and safety requires not much more than a one day at a time approach. Now we will keep the world posted huge story Rudy. Go bear very important influential. Nba Player test positive. Change the tone of the program here and go into news mode because the game has been postponed between the jazz and the thunder tonight. Still awaiting official word from the League office as to exactly why they've determined not the play tonight here scenes earlier tonight they were about to tip off between the jazz and the thunder and they basically told the teams and the officials to leave the court. And here's what's happening right now. Let's show you hear from Shawn Shawn of the Athletic Utah. Jazz all star Rudy Gobert tested positive for buyers The world as we know it here in the NBA officially changed right now. That video starts going around him. Grabbing all the microphones and then come the tweets the NBA suspended season. You didn't have to be a reporter or broadcaster like you and I are Jeff to be totally rocked by what was happening. He's surprised at how quick that happened though just before we get back to NHA follow it and cover it. I've mentioned that before. I believe I was shocked. I didn't think it would be that fast. And good on them for doing. It was yes. Boy that escalated quickly. Yes it sure did and I was surprised at how fast it can. I think everybody was surprised at how fast it team initially. I was shocked the NHL didn't do it right away by then when you think about it and how surprised we all were. I didn't have a problem with the league. You know taking a deep breath and saying let's just do this properly in the morning now. I had one person said to me the the thing that bothered him about it was if you had to go to work and some of those arenas he didn't think that was fair which I think is a legit point by. I generally felt that I can't blame the League for taking a deep breath and saying we're GONNA do this properly but I wanted to mention that one thing you know some of the things I heard during the day I heard the players are still going to get paid. Obviously we know now. There's going to be no practices The one thing that stood out in their release is it's clear to me that they're expecting a positive test or two. If you look at that release in what they talk about about the possibility of players getting tested they realize that it's going to be impossible. That none of their guys were at least exposed to it right so I mean we're bracing for that. I heard the other thing they talked about. Was they want to have the cup done? They WANNA get awarded this year and they're open to ideas on what to do when the season resumes and I don't think anybody knows right now when that's going to be a couple of things the one thing that jumps to mind Ryan right away as the. Nhl Made official earlier on Thursday afternoon that they're putting the League on hiatus is how do you determine that is safe to go back like at? What point do you say? Okay? We're in the clear like what are the indicators. What are the markers or are you just not sound frivolous about it but are you just following the advice of the medical community and taking their lead and if they say it's okay to go back then we go back? I yes I do. Think that's what it's going to be if you take a look at this. They all announced the media changes at the same time. So they're in lockstep and you know that they're all going to take the same cues one might come back before the other. He thinks so. Hey you know there was a report today that the NBA said minimum thirty days. I would bet you that if another league maybe even the NHL told you can come back sooner. It's your healthy enough to do so. They may do it. I'm not trying to say the. Nhl will do that. I think if you see leagues get told say in three weeks. You can come back. It's GonNa get discussed would imagine considering the messaging so far whether it's by way of you know what the how media's supposed to behave everything and you've made this point on TV here elsewhere. Radio that's The major sports leagues have worked in concert so far with the messaging and they've all been in contact all sharing information. My assumption would have been That if the NBA is back the NHL is back well. I don't necessarily think that in this particular case we're taping this when we got. We're seeing reports that they've been told minimum thirty days. Well okay I haven't seen that yet from the NHL like initially. There was a note that went out. I heard to the players on Wednesday night. Probably Three Week break. And then we'll see so you know never know that could change and things like that but why was the NBA? The first one to cancel on Wednesday because the player because of the player their hand was forced. They had no choice. They had to be the first one if the NHL had the first positive test then they would have been the first one to act. That's just the way it goes and it's GonNa come down to what evidence they get that it's going around the league. What evidence do we get that society is ready for to handle this again? All of that stuff and I do generally think they'll be on the same timeline but somebody's gotta be first and I'm beginning to be curious to see who that's going to be you know we're used to the NHL and the players association working very adversarial Leasing from the same hymn book in partnership when the time is appropriate But was this one of the situations or a one of the issues where they really were on the same page and this was a you know a joint decision between both the NHL and the Players Association. Was this a situation where they win into discussions about this with the exact same thing in mind that we have to have no choice. You have to work together on this. Because here's the thing the damages affect both of you. If you're a player we already know. I don't want to get into it too much. Because people's eyes glaze over when they hear this they hearing about escrow right now. This is going to hurt their escrow. The players are still gonNA be getting paid and no revenues are going to be coming in. That's a problem. Okay so the players already know that the thing that drives them the craziest is going to be affected. So that's right now in our minds we should all recalibrate what the cap is going to be because coming out of the genome eighty four to eighty eight. Let me let me get to that okay. So the first problem right now is escrow. It's not a good sign for the players by. Yes so let's get to the CAP. The cap is anyone half the estimated forty eight. Some people are already skeptical on that. They're probably not hitting it now and if the playoffs are damaged that's where they make their most money like I've had guys estimate that we're talking about between seven hundred million and a billion dollars here okay the NHL last year was a five billion dollar league. So they're talking about a pretty significant number if that's correct so we're not going to eighty four to eighty eight. We're going to be lower but you know so the players are going to be like. Oh but also the teams are going to be thinking. Oh now the league will want to protect its teams to some degree. They're not GonNa want teams saying I got six guys now right so they will negotiate if they have to. They will work together to negotiate something. I've made this point a couple of times now. Two thousand eleven twelve cap was sixty. Four point three million thirteen was a lockout and they struck a deal that the next full season which was thirteen fourteen. The cap was going to be sixty. Four three no matter what I bet you. They come to some kind of a deal so that everybody gets hurt but nobody needs to be destroyed and everybody. The damage is mitigated as much as they can the other thing. That's going to be a factor here because I've already had some agents reaching out to me about it. Is I think insurance going to be a big issue for the NHL. I don't think there's as much coverage there's they would've liked. I heard it's less than they would have liked by the players. Don't get a part of that That's separate from HR. So I mean there are GonNa be battles here by. It's in their best interests to give each other a soft landing the NHL by way of the press release has indicated. They are interested in coming back and playing some regular season games before the playoffs. Is there a concern that the reduced schedule itself might take some teams out? Who Otherwise would be in the playoff hunt? Here's my question. Do you think the League would be sensitive to teams that are technically still involved in a race to the playoffs? Leaving enough runway for them to play games to get in so the schedule itself doesn't eliminate them automatically. I have to tell you I got wondering about Arizona Team Arizona player. Whose team is on. The cusp of the play offs. That did not get is not in right now. Texted me that very question. He said we are going to vote against anything that causes the playoffs out of this. Yeah so here is the Elliott Friedman Solution. Lean back. Put your feet up. This might be a whopper. The NHL wants creative solutions. And I think they should invite creative solutions. This is a chance for them to create 'cause when this ends and hopefully soon people are going to be starving for sports of all kinds so you have an opportunity to do something special do it. Here's what it is okay. Eastern Conference Playoffs First Round BYES BOSTON TAMPA Toronto Washington Philly Pittsburgh Their Revenue Club. Why are you ruining faces? You love me go away. Western buys Saint Louis Colorado Dallas Vegas Edmonson Vancouver. Points percentage first round of the playoffs. Tweeted me if I get this wrong. I did the quick math. Okay I was told there'd be no math. Carolina Rangers Islanders Columbus Western Calgary Arizona Nashville Minnesota so in those matchups Carolina Rangers allders Columbus Calgary Arizona Natural Minnesota Two Games. Higher seeded team gets both of them at home back to back nights total goals. I can tie fine. Second game still a tie sudden-death that's how we do the playoffs You'd tell me when you're ready do it. Okay Insert here. Our wonderful producer almost reached out to me and said Elliott. Your math is terrible. You got some of the teams wrong so this is what I figured. I wanted to keep this idea in the podcast because I think it's a good idea. There's at least one owner and several other presidents and some GM's who've been pushing this idea so almost gave me a choice I could take it all out or I could keep it in. I kept it in. I'm sorry the team's Iran Wednesday or excuse. Me Thursday was a crazy day so I apologize for getting the math wrong. I just want the idea in their now. Anti Stewart made a really good point on our Thursday night show as we talked about the current suspension of the season. Who's next in the East Rangers? Who's two teams away in the West Chicago Arizona Before Chicago? Do you not thinking year where revenue's going to be cut a bit the NHL and the players want the possibility of a playoff game or two involving the Rangers in Chicago. I do too so I could see this. Possibly getting opened up even more. Who's the next team in the East? After the Rangers. You guys do the math. That's either buffalo or Montreal so I do think you are going to see if possible some creative idea that could get up to twenty four teams and let me leave you with this one. Gm said to me he would love to see a march madness tournament. In June's what do you think about that back to your regularly scheduled podcast? How open is the NHL to all of these ideas? I think the NHL will at least listen. I think they realized this is different. And if there's ever time to try the format that Gary Bettman hates it's now okay so pick your opponent. You know what I got to tell you I know you hate it. I don't hate it if you're ever going to do it. It's this is the year but there's no way they're going to do that. No way anything else to add before we get back to our regularly scheduled podcast. We're all in the same boat here. Let's make good decisions so we can all come back and watch hockey and everything else as quickly as possible. It's okay it's just hockey. Go to the library. Get a book go for a walk. Take your dog out for a little bit more of a walk. Go for a run. Hit The gym again. Reintroduce yourself to your partner. Here's something I'm going to try this unique that I'm GonNa talk to my wife. Ooh She talk back to you. I don't know it's undetermined. That is the big question We'll find out when thirty one thoughts the podcast returns. In the meantime we will. Now present the podcast. We recorded Wednesday for your enjoyment. Thanks for putting up with us here but he went thoughts the podcast brought to you by the GMC Sierra Josten. So the reason I'm saying just nauseating is because Jeff you've got his suit. Jacket caught on his links which there is some poetic justice in all of this. His suit jacket does not want to come off. Because it doesn't WanNa put on what he's GonNa put on. So I see the McDonald's uniform of the Glove Griffin's good look I remember. You may be stare at you when you had the Western. Jersey on for an entire podcast. Here's your Queens Cup champions right. There beat Western on route to beating the Ottawa. Gee gees I want to thank Justin Stevens by the way at Reference For sending this Wonderful Jersey along the entire coaching staff and congratulations to the Gulf. Griffin's my my Alma Mater. Well I hate to admit this. But congratulations to Guel earned. It thing. Looks disgusting. You're lucky I don't ask. You can have a big Mac Combo please. Would you like to supersize that Jeff Gordon? I'll just take the regular size gorgeous. Griff what would you like to drink? Jersey? I don't know who our sponsor is not good enough to play for but always Admired would you say that if it was noted Griffin Cassie Campbell? Paschal WEARING JERSEY. Absolutely I would you. Would you would rose casts a hundred percent if she she put on that that Gross Jersey. That made her look like a McDonald's employee. I'd be doing the same thing. What self-respecting Hockey player from Western? I WANNA see this off to defy not knocking McDonald's employees. I don't believe you make fun of anybody's job. Everybody works hard. I just ripped wealth. That's all it's really burned you didn't this really got into the huge disgusting okay. Let's start the podcast. You don't like yellow. You don't like black red. Not Altogether Purple. Purple is crowd. Chalk remeasure brain are get to the podcast. You start the thirty one thoughts blog this week by talking about and talking to Jim. Montgomery how was that conversation so I should explain all this Someone reached out to me a last week and said would you be willing to Talk to Jim and I said for sure and There were really no ground rules. They just said. Would you be willing to talk to him? And I said yes and they said okay. He'll call you at this such and such a time and he did and the only thing he said was. I'm not talking about the incident. Now my first question was how are you? I think that's the obvious first question and I asked him specifically about the incident. He said I'm not. I'm not talking about that but I'll talk to you about everything else and there wasn't another question. He's sort of threw away a bow. He made it clear. He's GonNa look forward more than he's going to look back and towards the end of the conversation. I thought about it. I formerly had some thoughts. I wrote some things out and I sent him a note and I said. Is there any chance that emily would talk to me? And I thought the answer would be no emily's his wife Yes And I thought the answer would be no but I was surprised pleasantly surprised. It's like the old Gretzky Lion. You you don't score on the shots you don't take. Actually her children were at a movie when she called so. I didn't take up too much time. I wanted her to join the kids at the movie. And I didn't write this because I didn't want to interject myself into the story. I thought this was more of a podcast thing in the blog. I thought it was more Jim In Montgomery story the podcast whether or not on US gas. Obviously I thought it would be better to tell this one of the things that Jim Montgomery and I talked about was. He was in Montreal where his family is. When I screwed up the race at Rio and he said that he was watching and he saw I apologize later. And I took the blame for it and He said that one of the reasons that he reached out to speak to me was that He thought that that was the right way to handle it so in myself doing that. He said that's what I'm going to do with this. Which I thought was interesting. I I really didn't WANNA share that but I thought it was reasonable. If if we're going to be blunt and honest about everything here I felt. I should do that. The second thing that you know we we kind of talked about between him and I the effect that when things like this happen to you in public effected has on your family's and I'm not going into this a lot but I think one of the reasons. I really struggled broadcasting after that race is because I was very frightened about the effect it would have on my family. You worry about your career you know your your family is know you're married if you ever have a bad day on the air your wife struggles with as much as you do and so we talked about that in our conversation in and I wrote about how much shame and guilty felt that his family had to go through this with him that similar the way I felt when I made that mistake because you're a continent away basically I'm in Brazil my family's in Toronto and you worry about the impact it's going to have on you know my wife and my son and he talked about his wife and his four kids so for people who are wondering sort of how the conversation kind of came to be in went a lot of it had to do with those things but I think that obviously Jim Montgomery's trying to change his life you know. I didn't really tell a lot of people that we spoke in advance of publishing it but I told a couple and the first thing that you know one of them said to me was I hope we can keep his family together and obviously him. Emily are committed to doing that and I wish them all the best. I think it's when you go through things like this publicly. It can really especially in this social media age. It spreads so quick it takes its toll and I appreciated the both of them being honest especially emily admitting that she was mad at him for a while but I wish them all the best. They've got four kids and that's all anybody cares about and I'm glad to see they're working to make it work. We live in a culture right now where I mean it's been describing rightfully so as disposable culture And default in our culture right now is if something is broken you throw it away in an. I always applaud people who don't throw things away. Try to fix them. Fixing things is difficult. And you know that it's broken in the back of your mind forever for the remainder but You know as we talked about a few weeks ago here on this. Podcast Hemingway. And I'M GONNA badly paraphrasing here. Said you know this council philosopher by the way Ernest Hemingway's in a philosopher as a writer. Thank you very drink drink? He wrote very tight pros as well to paraphrase hemingway. You know Life breaks all of us and for some people were Eventually strongest where we are broken so if you can keep it together the place where you are broken for some people and certainly for some couples that go through therapy that can be that negative into a positive and that can be one of the strongest bonds. You do have so. I applaud Jim Namely for what? They're doing let me ask you because you know I wrote it. I'm obviously attached to it. I'll tell you I sent it to one person. I say at the Chris. Johnston Before it was published. I just want him to evergreen through it and and see what he thought. What did you think reading it? I thought good for Jim and good for Emily of Oh first of all. I was surprised when I first saw it. Because I didn't know that you had spoken to Jim. I thought a lot of it was. I don't WanNa see predictable because that's too frivolous a word but it looks like Jim Montgomery is going through the right steps to fix things and to reintegrate himself back to his family and into his career got some great advice from loose. Qisas where he used to work with a six forty when I worked at chorus when he was working our. Ob TV can't remember what we're talking about. I think it was about something about messing up on the air or something like that and he said look. Here's the simple rule when you mess up. Fess up and dress up. That's how you do it skirt vice and I read your piece this morning when you send it to me before. It was published Today's sports net dot CA. And I said this is what Jim Montgomery is doing messed up. He's fessing up and now he's dressing up and that's why he reached out to you and starting to tell his story and no one does. Everyone's got a different timeline I I wouldn't shock me if you know. We didn't hear from Jim Montgomery for two years. And then all of a sudden there's a conversation with Elliot Friedman. Everyone does it on their time. We'll look at that and say well. That's pretty quick. How much therapy could have been? How much healing could they have done in this process because it seems as if Jim is looking to get back to some type of normalcy? Everyone's got different timelines. And what's right for you is not right for me is not right for animal but it was right for Amazon or trying to get out here and it seems as if right now from talking to you about it and from reading your piece. This morning that he's taken some necessary steps and he is on his way to a place. Where hopefully fingers cross because you always root for the goodness of people come success and you root for people to to keep things together and to heal together as a couple of as a family. It looks like he is on that road and for that. I'm happy at the end of all this. Who CARES ABOUT HOCKEY? Who Cares about sports? Sports is the way we just learn how to you know. Walk each other home and talk to one another and think about each other Good for Jim. That's the best thing I can say. What all this could for Jim. When he told me he was interested in getting back into coaching. I admit that part of me wondered. Is this a good thing? And that's why I was happy. I got a chance to talk to emily because I could ask her. Are you sure this is good? And she seemed comfortable with it. I I have a line that Us about staff my wife and I say you know what she always says. The less I see you the more I love you and she actually used that line. Basically I'd like him a lot more if I saw him a little less and I was laughing to her on the phone and I told her and she was laughing too and I and I told her that. My wife uses a similar line as long as. Emily is. Okay with that then. I'm good with that. I admit when Jim Montgomery I told thing. Coaching as like Oh. I don't know if this is the right idea. I was thinking about it. But the fact that she's on board that's critical and you mentioned something important there and that's normalcy and you know. Obviously I think he's around his family a lot. He's trying to be a better husband is trying to be a better father. But I think it's very hard to do that if you can't show some self worth you can't help support your family. Help do the things that make you happy. And it's clear that coaching makes him very happy. He's really enjoying being around. Is Boys who play now is youngest? Daughter are sorry as older of two daughters Eva is now starring escapees. Helping her. Skate is clear. He loves that And He needs it. You're the one thing through all of it. Not that this relates assembly to Jim and Emily in the Montgomerie's I don't think we've put enough value in talking to old people and talking to old couples. I'm always amazed You know when you see this couple's been married for sixteen years has couple's been together since they were eight years old and we just sort of shrug it off and say wow. What a wonderful story. But we never really talk about why it worked and how it worked and what were the challenges through all of it very seldom. Do we ever talked to old people about anything other than major historical moments in their lives. Which don't necessarily have anything to do with them. It's always the remember Wenn story. Or where were you when this happened? I don't think we talked to all people enough. I really don't they can tell you all these things I mean. This is the byproduct of beginning older. I find more wisdom in talking to older people. Once I realized that I don't have anything figured out. But maybe they do. I WANNA spend any time talking to those couples. Older couples that were together for sixty years. You know the any of them have any wisdom for Jim. Montgomery his wife Emily. I'm thinking of and this is really going to date me. That's GonNa Bring the okay boomer part of when Harry met Sally at all those old couples in the movie who talk about being together. That's what I'm thinking of is you're talking about this okay. Boomer moving on anything else about the Montgomery is there. Anything else you want. I mean I know I was happy to see. I was so you know what I was so wrapped in it like. It's one of those things. Jeff were you send it and you give it to the editors and you're thinking I have no idea what to think of this. I spent so much time overthinking every word. Because you want to. You want to do it properly. You WanNa do it honestly and you also I admit feel responsibility that you have to tell their story properly because they came to you to do so. I didn't know what to think when that got published. My head was in fifty different directions. I'll tell you I was happy to see it because as you all know in hockey lesson in life this isn't just exclusive to sports or the sport that we cover but how many times we joke about things like. Oh that guy's paying fifty percent escrow you know he's been divorced. Oh He's got the fifty percent Oscar. All this guy's got two divorces. He's on his third wife now and this industry is littered with broken marriages and kids all over the place. Many times I feel is because people didn't try to fix things and sometimes things aren't fixable and somebody just better. The people are parts. I was happy these were trying to fix things. Yup I agree lives heart. Hemingway's right life breaks. You Hope it works over race all rooting for the Montgomery breaks. All of us Okay Tampa Boston. Last Saturday. Great Game. We talked about the battle of Alberta earlier on this season. That was fantastic. And I'm watching this thing and I'm saying to myself I don't know if the Tampa Bay lightning last season could have had a game like you know what stuck out to me was J tweet. Yes J fister. Who won the Stanley Cup? They're as the general manager in two thousand and four he tweets out after the game. About how all those guys have made them different. Good row Maroon Surrogates Avenue wrote who knew and he said that this is what this team needed. And they're basically called them nastier an edgier and even without the fighting teams of notice they're Nastier edgier and they want you to know that they're Nastier and edgier. Does it not seem to you that Sally Crosscheck Chara? We're going to go back to that. One jacked up buckles across goal on Saturday this island which means that Toronto has seen. No one wants to go. Of course. It's really came all right all right. It's time to settle down. Kerala manhandles kit takes your degree. Then take it to the hospital bill. Bryden point really top recoil. Then Shara squared off with Maroon saying you want to see the afterlife. I'll take you there gets the town. There's GONNA be some revenge at some point on that he's just gonNA lifted stick up and throw it up in the air because that's for Chara does now. That's his no. It's going to be worse for surly. It almost seemed as if Julian reason why this year is said to himself. What can I do for this team? That will let us compete with two team specifically one on Saturday. The Boston Bruins and to the Washington capitals. If you'RE GONNA meet them in the playoffs those are going to be physical series breeze about winter. Vote this year and said okay. What can I do to address the Boston issue? And The Washington issue. I think also what it says is that he did feel his team. Neil a lot more edge that they were easily pushed around so. I don't even know if it's the Boston. Issue of the Washington issue because last year it was columbus issue and gloves. Push them around and I think that is quit. Did you feel like Tampa quit? I don't like the word quit. I don't like it either. But that's one of the things we kept on man. You can't believe Tampa quit like using it. My belief is Columbus ripped the heart out of them. Rip the her out of them. After the first period of that game wine Tampa thought. They're going to win that series in two games. Oh Yeah and you know what you know. What the move of the playoff was toward relegating Brodsky. Back in yes. Well corpuscle on the bench. Look like he wanted to win Quit I quit is a tough word. But they beat their heart out of them they ripped it right out and so I think what Tampa saying is that we've got enough skill. We need a bit more will and we also we. Don't WanNa wait for you to get our IRA up. We're going to have our air up right away and we're coming at you preemptive free we're going to be preemptively angry Jeff Gordon Chris. Drury contract extensions. I'm a big Fan. I think we all are of Jeff Gordon and the work that he's done with the Rangers even previous to that. How we set up the Boston bruins and they're still dining out from the Chara decision. The rask decision the drafting Brad. Marchand like he was only there in that role a short time but did a world of good for the Boston Bruins of course rewarded now for his work with the New York Rangers as a general manager. And if you lined up ten general managers and Jeff Gordon was one of them and you took twenty hockey fans and said tell me which one is the Rangers? Gm who could identify them? It's funny you said that because somebody sent me a note saying is there a more lower-profile big market GM in sports? And the only thing I said is in football. Some of the. Gm's are totally overshadowed by the coaches and the coaches have a lot of power football. So maybe you would pick some names out of there by. Generally I think the answer to that question would be no you can't and Gordon technically isn't the GM of the raptors okay. Let's talk about the person who makes the decisions and Bobbi Webster? He's not low-profile anymore. Yes he's a big name. A Jeff Gordon likes that and I think the rangers like that. Why is that? It's New York? Everything's got to be larger than life nor would I think the Rangers got to be big personalities as John Davidson is there. Well when they come out unfortunately an update with the accident and thankfully everybody is okay. She's Jordan's back John Davidson was the one who made the announcement. So maybe they like him being that guy. But I don't think Jeff Gordon's got too many complaints. That he doesn't do too many interviews What do you think of the job that he's done? He's done a great job. And Juries Smart Guy he's going to be. Gm At some point. He's going to get a chance to pick his situation. Obviously Been Vicki. No Minnesota could have been there for Buffalo. Could have been there for him. He's waited nothing wrong with being patient and waiting. How can you not like what Gordon's done there? There were a lot of people who didn't think an extension for him was in the cards a year or two ago the way the Rangers were through and said we rebuilding But they had a plan and the other thing too is the. We've talked about this. They made their plan clear and Panara accelerated it. But it's been a forty goals Diangelo. They've found some guys who do go right down the list. I know that everyone's going to dump on the Rangers for Anderson and that we all have masses wrestling. But we don't even know that it's a he's I always come bill young. That's the thing I always pull up before I say. Yes it's a miss or old that's a dud. We still don't know let's fair about The little young Anderson but things right now are look-in grief. Thought they were going to be on the edge of the playoff race this year. Who thought they'd be on the edge of a playoff race this year and not have Henrik Lundquist as a factor is a big one too if I told you when they wrote that letter that you know what fridge and a couple of years. They're going to be knocking on the playoffs. Oregon Lundquist will not be a big part of it by the way we had him at the beginning of the year. We talked about the respect. We have for him that he carried himself when they were losing. Yeah he's been unbelievable again this year. This is not easy for him and you know inside. It's killing him. He's held himself and credible you think he makes it easy for the Rangers. The off season. I think they'll all work to get it done. You'll either get traded somewhere or they'll they're going to buy them out so we can go wherever he wants. Okay so a couple of hours ago. Here's record this podcast. On Wednesday afternoon we sat down with Hal. Gill we thought it was going to be a Elliott Cozy fifteen minute chat with the former NHL or turn broadcaster with the Nashville predators. It turned into. Hong was an admiral but an hour and fifteen minutes. An hour and twenty minutes Some great stories. We're going to package the whole thing. Up as a feature podcast. Brian Burke kicked me out of my chair and take the interview. Brian Burke Wanders in the studio in Elliott punts and Brady takes over the interview. That was a lot of fun. One of the reasons why I wanted to talk to Hal. Gill specifically was the relief efforts After the tornado damage in Nashville which he played a part of when we come back. You'll hear from former. Nhl defensemen turn Nashville predators analyst. Hal Gill three hundred thousand. The podcast returns This month feature BAND IS TORONTO BASED CHOIR. Before the break you heard fences now hearing this house from their debut record this this. Oh says cage man this reading on the string the water you conspirators. This house is quite possibly more Tecoma okay Wednesday afternoon Elliot. Nice sat down with cowgill former. Nhl Defense now. Doing both radio and television for the Nashville predators. It was supposed to be a cozy fifteen minute chat. It turned into a sprawling one hour and twenty minute full on conversation. We will present the entire thing to you on a future edition of thirty one thoughts. The podcast in the meantime wanted to play this clip from it. This is how gill talking about his efforts. In the tornado relief efforts in Nashville enjoy tornado. Relief one of the things. We know now about how he'll more so than ever you're with a chainsaw. I love chainsaw. And if you if you know if you've never had a chain saw on your hand and felt a rush of you know I mean geeked out and I spent a lot of CIA after I retired. Spent a lot of time when the chainsaw and and You know this the smell the gas burning and would burn up and just trees. Fallen gets me going. So yeah they gave me a chance. I in Nashville. Help me Take down some trees for some people that needed some help so it was. It was fun doing that. We talked about how great teammate. You are so no surprise that right away when the situation with tornadoes happened in Nashville right away. It was without hesitation. Hal's on the scene. I wish it was just how go on the scene. Those I'm part of a group. So seven element is actually the name of the group. It's a a veteran. That was a hockey guy in and started getting a hockey group together and playing. And you went from fifteen to twenty guys to now. They're up over eight hundred errands first that that go out and play hockey and and so Chris Mason. I are bag checkers. We kind of said we're going to help this guy these guys out. We sold t shirts to raise money for him and and had a good time but more importantly than helping them It's been awesome to have them reach out to us. I mean these guys are our heroes and you know as soon as something bad happens there the first on the scene and so they called us so we were with them taking the tree off garage and trying to help out and they're still. They camped out. These guys are great. They camped out and stayed overnight and And got going in the morning again. You know they just so we went out there for a further day but Then we're on the road again but it was awesome to help those guys out and there's so much need help and it's you don't understand all the things these tornadoes just come through and you know rip up someone's House and then the house next to it is fine. It's crazy Schools are down. There's billions of dollars in damage and so to help out with one guy you know. His Insurance Company wouldn't come look at car because there's a tree on top of it so he can't get the tree off. You can't just call someone as a tornado goes through and says hey. Get the tree off. Because everyone's busy you know it's backlogged so you know. We went over and helped out and it was. It was nice to be part of that. That HELP TO RECOVER NASHVILLE. Locker Room Dot com on the Nashville predators dot com slash Nashville. Strong is another one. You can go on Nashville predators dot com slash Nashville strong. Yeah on their website. They can also want. You can also volunteer there as well. This isn't just for donations. This is H. O. N. data or hands on Dot Org H. O. N. Dot Org is a good one. There's so much that's involved with. There's so much loss and it's tragedy but it just The uphill road to to build in. You know what? It's awesome especially in the hockey community. Nashville is a music. Music City and the musicians are all getting ready to donate and do charity concerts. And and so you expect that what was really awesome for us as predators you know the contributions from NHL teams from owners that really soda. Yeah he he stepped up and he has ties. There in Nashville has become part of that hockey community. It's a big success. It's it's is one of the biggest successes in the NHL and everyone has a great time. Come in there and I think that it's no kidding that the two thousand Seventeen Cup run. It really was on the map. Everyone saw how great of a hockey city? This is but it it. It really is nice and humbling to have so. Many people contribute in the hockey world. So I thank them for doing that. And and look forward to more people embracing nationals hockey town. That's how Guild Nashville analyst. You'll hear the full podcast. I'm an upcoming edition of thirty one thoughts. The website again at Nashville predators dot com slash Nashville strong. 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2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs Game 6 Avs/Stars Round 2

Starcastic Remarks-The Only Dallas Stars Fan-Led Podcast

28:44 min | 11 months ago

2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs Game 6 Avs/Stars Round 2

"Welcome back star Caster marks this is Ryan With. Me Today I've got Chris Inza. And we are the only we have the Dallas Stars Oh, my goodness only van lead podcast. We're the only Dallas, stars. Fan podcast. There you go. That's that's a mouthful but say All right so I went on a little bit of Iran on twitter. How about Y'all rested on twitter. y'All were probably pretty smart to stay off twitter I. Didn't go like full rant, but I did voiced my displeasure with the the team's. Effort today, there was just no effort at all especially especially from our best guys are worse. Line today was the first line. It was terrible. They had one shift that they stayed in the offensive zone pretty much every shift that been Sagan Reggie love had they were in their defensive zone against the McKinnon line not being able to keep up it was it was really terrible not at all. In what's crazy is when you look at the stats like just the base game stats, this looks like a game that we should have one. Like. I mean we have four more shots goals. That's not a crazy amount more. But you know we win shots on goal. Forty five to twenty on hits twenty, six to eighteen blocked shots twelve to fifteen on giveaways like when you have a stat lines like that, you should. You should be winning the game or at being within one goal to lose this game. It really was just it seemed like lack heart to me. The only the only player that actually looked like he cared out on the ice was Yan market might. Be Shout to him tonight. He was by far our best player. No doubt in my mind and it was frustrating because like his line wasn't helping him at all like it looked like seriously it was him skating around the ice tried to do something and it Kinda shows in at you at the end of the game he got the misconduct as well. It's because he cared about what was going on yeah seriously. volt skin this where is that? That spice that he had the in game five. When he was showing everybody that you know we're playing like crop and we need to fix this where where, where was that today there it was not there there is no effort. There is no desperation the only people that seem to care about the play today was Khudobin who showed up again today and Jan Mark, and then maybe to a slight degree. Heiskanen but. I'll be honest that goal with hey, skin it shouldn't have gone and that was Hutchinson trying to showboat. And he missed the PUCK. Should have been a save Yet. At the end of the day religious looked like a lot lack of effort I mean there we didn't. We didn't go into the corners like we usually do when puck battles we kept on dumping the puck in and then wouldn't chase it. Like, we dump the Puck in especially when we're losing, we dump the Puck in and then. Not. Don't get it and go for a change. Will we're down to goals? Like we had no offensive. Zone time. There's office pressure at all like there's there there is no good shots I did not see any great eight chances the entire game we had shots from the outside pretty much offered the defenseman. For our offense, but there's no Ford's being creative. Nobody was making space upfront known was grinding up front trying to get rebounds. There was nothing there is no good chances this game and the one record on like you said was was a fluke. That was completely a fluke goal. And you know honestly when we scored that goal is like, okay. Maybe we'll actually win this thing and at that point the game we deserved that goal because we played the better first period right our. The first minute? Yes. The first ten minutes were good. The first period was great and I thought we deserved that goal and we deserve to be up in that period and then. That goal at the end of the first I think shifted shifted the game. And I felt it coming like. The last two minutes of the period it was the same thing that Colorado was doing earlier in this series were the last two of the period we like okay. We'll just take our lead or lead into into the intermission and then we just decided we're GONNA go ahead. Let them just shoot over and over again, and of course, eventually they're going to score. So that shifted the momentum severely with within tying up a period that really like we won the period had no business being tied. Yeah Yeah and they even admitted it the avalanche in their post game interviews or saying you know what we played like Doug Crap in the first period. That's the other thing. The avalanche did not play a good game. They were not that great. They didn't. They didn't have. Either I think means that are. Muzak disagree with you there their second period was excellent. Disagree with me I'm agreeing with Chris Really. Okay. Okay. I was running all right avalanche the avalanche. This game would completely beatable. They did not look. Anywhere close to the first period from Latin from last, the last game they didn't they weren't flying around, they looked slow and. Slower the stat live shows that like like Zach pointed out we outplayed them at every category, but there was no heart. There is no trying to score look like it didn't look like anyone was pressuring the net at all especially on a goaltender like Hutchinson who's new to it all we should have been in his face the whole game I don't know. It's a lack of preparedness for this game is really what it is. That's gotTa be the game plan to crash the net on this young goaltender, and there's no. That's why is that not the game plan? Why is that not happening is only shots from the outside that's not that's not the way to score and and also also very clear like just the last two minutes when we pull when we pulled their goalie. We weren't even like we weren't taking shots we're down to goals. And we're just passing around the perimeter not taking shots like what's the point of pulling your holy? If you're not gonNA take any shots. Yeah. That way you just gotTa pepper the net I mean you got nothing to lose you. With, whatever you got if we put twenty eight shots on goal and only had one goal. Some point you just got to keep on putting them because he's going to mess up by I. Think Honestly Hutchinson played a pretty good game. This is the foot goal got a couple. He had I think once on Fox that was really Fox actually elevated above the pad on the on his glove side and. Dave and that was A. Big. Turning point because I think that was going to that would have been the first goal in the game. So we had gotten that one plus the hastening goal I think it's a very different game. So I want to give some props to Hutchinson played. He played well night it wasn't tested as much. You know as much with quality chances as you'd expect but you know he he made one or two big saves. Kept that kept the avs going so This was a third string goaltender. What on I'm sorry I'm a little bit. But what on Earth are they doing in game five and in game six like they had two opportunities to close the series out to get a little bit of arrest going into against the Vegas Golden Knights Emmy they're gonNA, win that series. I don't good accident. Yeah go I will say go connects I like the next but I just don't think it's the time yet I. Prefer Vegas but I think the. Instill show up I mean. They've looked pretty good but I don't really care what you're saying. Bacteria regularly scheduled rant he's a third string golden tower. He had not made a single appearance in the postseason until game five and we have done absolutely nothing to test him. The one good chance we had today was Fox that was it and and that's the one thing he had to answer today. He was solid enough to get the win for the avalanche. He was that solid enough in the avs the you know maybe they weren't as good as I thought it was I am but I'll I'll get there in a second but the stars just suck up. They they there is no hustle. There's no desperation. There was no effort in all of that. Now honestly, the like as far as excitement that was the probably the least exciting playoff game I've watched this season I guess probably not Posey's. After Round Robin play. That game was not like it wasn't exciting. There was no. Like. I'll take the IT looks like a bad bad team play worse team. Honestly. I. Don't know what was going on out there today but it. I do not enjoy. The game at all like it just didn't seem. It did not seem like playoff atmosphere. It was very strange. In again, it would be totally different if the stars gave their best effort and then just lost the game I, I would totally be okay with that because that just means that the avalanche are better team than us but y'all both said it both said that the avalanche repeatable today. Completely one hundred percent beatable by the stars and the stars laid an egg it it was. It was crap in the blames gotta go to the top three like they were absolutely terrible. Those guys make more money than the bottom six forwards that we have and they were worse than them the bottom twenty, five, million, twenty, five, million dollars not not even. Worth that at all you wouldn't pay them combined three million for for what they showed in this game. It was terrible. It was not good at all and somebody had to answer at some point been had to get in a fight. Somebody had to make a big hit nothing happened ever. There was not any spark at all it was it was not. Goes Terrible. Taylor Faddumi had the same amount of shots as the top blind combined. Sagan Roger off and. Ben All had one shot each when Taylor for Dune is the one that's taking more shots than your top three players and I understand how the stars play. They pass a backup to the point they shoot it on and they look for rebounds but those rebounds should be tested by our top three. It should be tested by our top three and what made me mad even more was. From in the second intermission going into the third period I'm thinking okay we've seen it before where they've been down two goals before. And they've been able to at least come back and make a game out of it, which is what they did. goodness was a game three I think is when we lost all forget. Yeah There is one game we were down three to one. We tied it in actually went ahead for two three and then lost the game six, four, I forgot which game that was but regardless, but the first four. In the third period under sitting there yelling at the TV, like what are you doing? What are you? It's the Golden. Way. A third period for the stars to come out strong they they. They didn't I don't know. I don't know what happened with. Lost Your Audio Chris we lost to Chris. We can't hear you. Say something I can cut it out to say something I can't. I can hear you. Okay All right. So let's talk about one thing that's really bothering me more than anything in it's kind of a two sided. Coin. Here is the penalty tonight. First off, we just can't take the I've I've said this for weeks I've said this for weeks we did it against Calgary and we were able to get away with it, but we did it again today. We took five penalties five. And we especially when we're trying to close out a series, I don't care that they didn't score any goals on the power play we have. In supply is that is exactly what is the point? We weren't able to build any momentum because of the times where we were taking. Exactly and yeah, that was that was very frustrating and there is a few of them that were very. Very avoidable as well. Yeah, it just totally killed our Mojo it killed the. Momentum through the whole game and I've I've heard some people say on Youtube on. Facebook it's just people who are in the game that momentum is one of the biggest things in the bubble right now more. So than anything because there is no home field advantage, right? There's no home field advantage. So it's all about momentum and right now it is full speed hundred miles an hour avs train headed our way and I am. Crazy scared about game seven. What's funny is you say that, but honestly I don't feel like they have much momentum either I. Think they know that they played that like that's they. Yes they won and they've won to interrupt like that's that's good for them shirt but that was not like. That, they didn't play a good game that was an avalanche hoppy. That was you know they the only goal that I really was by the way was an incredible goal was the saucer pass from McKinnon overnight was Scout Renton. That that play was beautiful by the way picked it didn't hit the ice. It was a saucer pass to his directly onto his stick. It was beautiful. That aside. It wasn't as hockey. It wasn't the exciting brand of hockey, the high-speed hockey that they usually play high scoring game. So it'll be it'll be interesting. I I don't think they have as much momentum as you're thinking going into game seven. They definitely have more than the stars but I don't think it's at as huge gap as what you're thinking. So you think this is Sorry go ahead Chris. Sorry hope hopefully just saying the words game seven will. Find a way to spark these guys I guess I mean I don't I don't know how a game six after missing out on eliminating them last game doesn't but the they've got to figure out a way to rally around something right now 'cause it really didn't look like they wanted to be there at all so. If momentum's thing than we have no idea who's got it right now in my opinion. So y'all are more on the. You're more on the edge of saying that it's just the stars that are sucking it up more so than the. Worst the worst scars game since the last ABS- game we had the rest of it was terrible. I think it Leans Avalanche I. Don't think it is heavy up. Like I mean. All I. Think all it would take in game seven is like a big hit or a fluky goal, and then it's back momentum stars right? It's not like we're going to need to like really come out and just heavily outplay them to get the moment of back in our favor. We did talk about this but the stars only had the one power play at the very end of the game where Dickinson gets rack across the face and somehow it's only a two minute. I, I know that the the standard is is blood in the obviously wasn't blood, but you still can call a double minor on something agreed as that that was missed stick lift that raked all the way across his face and I saw a piece of his visor that flew off in the shot and I don't know how you call that a double minor after it. That's honestly ridiculous to me, and there were so many times throughout the game where there could have been called especially, interference calls when Dallas is trying to get. Right. Resulted they call it one time in the beginning of this year, and I, was hoping that would stop it and that they would keep on the avalanche for that because teams do that us all the time because of the way we play hockey but it was constant throughout the third period especially, and that's why we could into zone at all instead of any kind of offense. Those ridiculous. The refs didn't win the game for the avalanche tonight but it sure. Felt. Tilted there is there is a few times were like. You know we were. Waiting on the PUCK to get their ended, they hit us like the puck like four or five feet away. Still we get hit and then the puck goes by because we can't play the puck any. And they didn't call those and that was that was I think the most frustrating thing for me was watching. So many of those go by I. Think it's the interference call specifically that that were the most frustrating. The few times where like it kind of looked like a hook or a hold in. Yes. We didn't get the call and the avalanche got. The one that. I kind of get the one that they called on Perry but he was falling I. Don't know how much control he had on. He was he was falling down and they called. Me At all that one was ridiculous like the only thing I can think of is maybe he reach out his hand and and got got the guy's foot. But like when I looked at the thing, it looked like he was bringing his hands to his face to make sure he didn't get kicked in the face after falling. So I I don't know on that one it. It felt really lopsided. Especially, the avs apparently playing a solid fifty minutes fifty five minutes of penalty free hockey apparently they're just. It. Yeah. Honestly felt very similar to the blues the end of the blue series last year where like apparently, they just played five five periods of. Yawkey. Crack. In the only one that they call is a is one that if they don't call. They like they lose their off. Yeah. seriously. Yes. That was the. Main, thing with again, this stars didn't play with any heart. I don't know if giving US powerplays would have helped because they weren't playing well, maybe there's this a little bit to win I'm not gonNA blame this loss on the rafts, but it just didn't feel good. About mentioning. Well. Yeah. That was actually y'all took it and ran with it because that was exactly the next thing I was going to mention and I even put on twitter I was like if they don't score on this Dick Dickinson power play that the one power play that we're going to get I knew we weren't going to get another one. I just knew we weren't, and if we don't score on the game's over and now we didn't the power play didn't look good you like then that's kind of why seemed like. It didn't like the rest didn't weren't the ones you cost us the game but man, it felt it sucks up play at and knocking the anger somebody called miscall. It. There were so many pick plays that could have obviously been called interference. There are some holds even there was one point I saw. A hold on a stick holding on the stick. Series and haven't been. Yet I guess that's true. Remember. Doing. There are a lot of opportunities for them to make calls and they didn't that's that's what dad. That's what Chris that's what you said. Chris. in. Dad really summed it up really well in that first week that he sent the first tweet I text message. He doesn't he's into us all three of us. It was that right there was everything we did wrong that last month of the season no heart in no desire to win the Cup wrestler against us. So what find a way to score the goals somebody step up anybody w played well Yeah it's. Perfect it's got to be the top three guys and they didn't do it so. and. That's that's the hard thing about. I love the way Mark Place. He always plays with heart i. wish he had the finishing power of saying because he he would be a top three. He'd be top line guy. He's fast. He just can't be. He's never been able to finish goals if you figure out how to if you can figure that out, he'd be elite. We've we've seen a play for so long now it's not I. Don't think it's going to happen he the guy that's going to take us to the next round is what it comes down to. He's he's a great player, but he's not going to take over a game and there's no way we should have asked him to do that. There's no way he should be the best gator on the ice honestly. At all he shouldn't be it's I think that was big. Gurion, off enhance looked that really bad tonight. I. Felt like as well I. Really look and see how many shots I mean hints had to. of had zero. He also again. This is frustrating very on only played twelve minutes and forty four. Minutes he was the the he was only behind. A Cog, Nano and come on or only in front of COG Liana Kagera. Eight thousand the playoffs. Yeah I will never understand that I at some point like. Yeah, you're running your lines but man you gotta you gotTa. Let them play more like. He he didn't. He didn't look at this game either honestly He had an assist on the hey skin fluky goals also. Appoint but like. He vote on his didn't look like they were skating. It doesn't matter if you looks good really at the end of the game. When you need a goal, you put your goal scores out there needed to do that. He he kept he kept putting FCC and John Mark out there like they were the two best lines, but it doesn't matter those guys aren't GonNa score they haven't scored in the playoffs so I don't. That that's a big issue. So there's thing I wanted to ask you all about who starts game seven. Dobie has had three games in a row up nine hundred save percentage. Ben Bishop is back in healthy. He's been in a game. All starting. Not Been. The you can't. You can't with a game like this. They are. They declared him unfit to play again for this game, he wasn't even on the bench. So it was auditor in net. Now if you really wanted a thorough Colorado loop, just throw out during their and saying good luck buddy. Go ahead exactly right and you know. That sounds so so crazy and so stupid but maybe the stars. Noticing they have rookie goaltender back behind them. They're gonNA try and played friggin defense well, and get is some goal just can't you can't do that. She has been good if you know who's being good. Yes. He had this nine hundred tonight. I don't think he played poorly there was a couple there's a couple. So the Macara goal no one was on him. He was wide open in the slot like what are you? GonNa do the the Rantanen goal was just no one's stopping that. No one's stopping that goal Is is a beautiful shot. It sucks it off his mask, but you're not getting your glove it's not going to happen. So unless he's his face is in the right spot, you're not saving. So I don't think he played poorly I think you I think you ride Hubin he's been the one who got you your winds earlier on I think it was a stupid decision to put in. Bishop in last game Honestly when it cut if you're talking about momentum putting him in that game was. Probably one of the biggest moment of shifts in the in the we talked about that last podcast I. WE'RE GONNA look back on that if the series terrorists and it's turned. and. You know what when it comes down to. You know. You don't have the. Guy, who admittedly doesn't want to be a head coach head coach. The head coach for this you know like that is just. We obviously need someone in the in the. In the. Yeah and this topic's for another podcast. But bonus has no there's no reason he should be head coach right now like even during the season he should have been replaced I. think that's a terrible seizure by Jim and it's it might have cost to series. Realistically. Because it's not a good that's his decision. Last game is absolutely atrocious. While I understand the logic. The logic is been bishop was like he's fit to play. Let's get him in that way it game five where we have three games to win. Let's get him in so that you know he's he's ready to go when we if we need an next round so I get the I get the mentality but against Colorado would just needed to put them away like they're a good team. Yeah and it's his is his job to notice that been bishop isn't really good because if you watch that game five. Like I think all of us knew that been bishop didn't look like in Bishop he wasn't moving the way he did he wasn't positioning the way he does it. He's got notice that the coaches have to notice that. It's it's not it's not. Good, it's not good. Well I'm. GonNa. Disagree with you on making bonus the interim head coach Chris because. You know at that point win you know that you're going to get rid of your head coach because of some. Off The ice issues the alcoholism that was plaguing Jim Montgomery, you just need to have some stability. In honestly he he is that stable guy he's very calm. He's cool. Collected about himself. He's absolutely the complete polar opposite of toward. Rela. And Also at that time, there was nobody that was. Me No that was available at that time because this was before you know Oh, natural head coach. LAVIOLA is and I mean babcock was available. But who wants Babcock after all the stuff we heard about what he did in Toronto. So I think we'll podcast for another day but. That's for another day. One we need to do to win game seven them. Yeah. That's it really comes down to we could talk about staying out of the box of course, that's important reduc about Khudobin having to play a great game. That's obviously very important when it comes down to is the guys who are making twenty five million dollars have to win the game and that's what they're paid to do. If they don't do it, we're GONNA lose the series and look back at a terrible mischance. In that, that's been your big point the whole time Chris that's a good has. been stay out of the box and we both been right and This is going to be a real lost opportunity. I think this is it for the stars like if they don't win game seven on Friday. then. Now's the time to start. You know looking at maybe doing not a full rebuild, but possibly a retool. Because our our people are getting old. It's too late. This is it. This is it so if you want. If you WANNA get a chance for cup. This is it provoked ski this. Is it Ben this? Is it okay. That we don't have another opportunity. Okay. We'll see what happens Friday. Yep. Good podcast guys. A lot of good comments. thing said I'm Ryan that's been also Chris and Zach. Gilford joining us here on star cast circa marks. The only stars fan led podcasts Seattle right that. You can follow us on twitter star casting are, and you can also find us on facebook star Aztec remarks in, and you can also find us wherever you get your podcast. Stars loose or one tonight hopefully the better for game seven. Sit. And we will get you guys on the flipside person can stay at for you coconut pumpkin ducks.

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 226: Featuring Nello Ferrara

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 226: Featuring Nello Ferrara

"Hello everybody welcome to episode. Two hundred and twenty six of spitting chick. That's presented by Pink Whitney the pink lemonade flavored vodka from our friends over at New Amsterdam. Vodka what's going on boys. We got some more good hockey news to talk about. Also big fire in another fucking coach at turf will begin to that shortly after we do our lows. I produce mikey Grenell would set brother. What's going on guys lauder ruckus outside my apartment right now? They're actually filming a movie directly outside my door so after according I might try to become a fellow Thespian. Is that how you say it join a team Nice Guy. What movie do you know? It's called Dash and Lilly. Ra's are shocked Ya. I wrote three letters to try to be an extra now on. I never heard back to step in. Here what's Thespian. We did this a couple episodes go. It's a fancy word for act. I actually got it from our old Saturday night. Live skit with Jon. Lovitz I was. I didn't retain that information on that. PODCAST near the end I asked it. I said it exactly like you. That's JV arcus this. JV are had done some acting. That's right too. Yeah we'll talk about movie and those are the other two cronies for us or Ryan Whitney though at dogwoods up buddy. What's going on? Yeah that that Jay was pretty funny. That's when Biz asked if you get residual kills instead of residual checks in the mail for the movie to create line based on what the Yellow House that was like the campus house where it was it was a psalm. Movie in their UNH. And the last member of the crew is. What's going on buddy boys? Things are great get back on track and the desert getting in the gym feeling. Good about myself. I WANNA get on the Road Nassar getting that broadcaster body again. You know I start getting a little loose but It's been good. Unfortunately the coyotes did lose last night they were on a good run there. They had a great road trip but We'll dive into that. Because I got a stroke off the Calgary flames here whenever we gotta get into that your team. Hell of Italian Quickly as you talk about broadcasters body. I don't know if everyone one out there has been aware but we get the behind the scenes footage of the day we filmed the commercial took seventeen hours to get that thing done but the footage was released and I've got shorts on. I didn't realize we were filming at that point. I'm getting off the boss. I got shorts on my legs are now out there. And now they look they look bad their Pale. They're skinny skinny. But let me tell everyone out there. Something yes they're pigeon legs. But I'll tell you right now. It's better to be tall drink of water and you're skinny and your mobile when you can move and you can swing the club and you have club head speed instead of being some short fat terrible leg. Gross person so I'd rather look the way I do as much as I'm taking so lay off me and I'll wear pants next time. Don't want no short short man. Yeah you do have terrible ex. Yeah I'm not one Athletic Bilbao Athletic Build Poise. We had some huge stunning news out of big day on Tuesday morning when we rolled out of bed as the stars fired head coach. Jim Montgomery completely lately out of the Blue Foot general manager. Jim nill termed a quote material. Act of unfair professionalism. Rick bowness was named the interim coach. Neil said he received received a call about it on Sunday he conducted his investigation came to the conclusion that he needed to fire the coach that he hired back in May of twenty eighteen Whatever happened it happened? During earnest is employment. It had nothing to do with former or current players or team personnel had nothing to do with abuse issues. No said there are no ongoing criminal investigations. Darren Grega tweeted out. That stores familiar with the situation said the status really had no choice but we all know the hockey world loves gossip. Things get around so I'd say some of these reporters does after know what happened but they probably just don't have enough to like run with it yet. It just very unusual guys to have a coach fight like this and have nobody know why usually the lost lost the Rome. You can't win the play-offs can't go the second round. This isn't what happened here so right now when people don't have a reason they're gonNA speculate and that's what's going on right now Biz. I know you want to chime in. Yeah Yeah so obviously you know get a decent amount of listeners now and not I guess not a big deal and we have some influence. I like talking about the hockey decide Shit and it goes back to the Carlson stuff with Hoffman. which has kind of just it kind of became a thing because you're playing against each other correct and we'll get that we battle lady correct but I I'm GonNa Group in the same category or a world this is these guys personalized and it's none of my fucking business? Although I do know what happened with the situation on both ends of it and and it's not for me to say we're here to talk about hockey and things that happened at the rink. I mean the coaches situation is kind of like inbetween her but it happened at the rink and it was hockey rocky related when it comes to other shit I just like I don't care to chime in on it because it's people's personal lives. Are you on the same page as me wit. This is not what we're about right. We're not about breaking breaking news about people's personalized. No I would I would if I knew what was going on like you did. I wouldn't say it because that is different than me breaking echina- trade thank you very much a breaking signing sorry. I will say this though. I think it does a disservice not to tell the people what what's going on solely because the next three days is just speculation. IRA set quick. And you hear this. You get messages this and this and this and like yeah. I mean a- At some point it's coming out that's why not at least just say what happened. What it's arrest people are going to stop with all the bullshit all the rumors all the the stuff that's made up online because in the end this will come out? Do you guys agree with that. Yeah I also agree. There's probably nothing nothing in my personal life that if it got out I would be devastated. That people knew it'd be like Fox like that's but so you've never done anything like that. Got You fired from a job correct. What what what I'm saying is though it's easy for me to say how I would handle that? If I wasn't a situation but I I've never have like that. Let that person who's going through something personal go through it on his own when he feels comfortable with everyone. No it's just because he's fucking head coach of the Dallas Stars doesn't mean I get to know what it's fucking personal life is because he's making big fucking can paychecks. If it's not something as serious as like let's say if like it was abuse well then yes then then everybody should fucking no because that's the bigger problem now if if it's things that maybe aren't as serious as other things I don't fucking care to be the fuck like I got a few messages about it before foyt actually found out what it was. It happened organically how I found out and I'm not the type of person like like here's another example. I had a media member asked me. You know how. How's Tyson Barrie Liking Toronto? And I responded a guy said honestly man like I don't even know he's my friend now that I'm in media I don't even fucking send the text out because I don't want him thinking on digging one and I know what the fuck is going through a look at the Guy Right so oh I just like I. I'm in a bit of a weird position where one I don't feel comfortable and I don't feel like I'm important enough to break that. That's not so you you you basically just you know why he was fired and I'm not asking putting on the spot here. Okay okay. Yeah I got the full story and I said Faulk said that you know I mean. Obviously it's going to be. Probably when all does end up coming to fruition. He's going to have to take some time to reflect as I as I keep saying really on every situation but like I said I'm not I'm not fucking break in that man. That's some I'm sorry to to people who think otherwise and think I'm fucking co keeping something from you being a media media member but I just ain't that fucking guy man. I'm not blinking trades attacks from body being like the Tyson Berry thing when I actually broke that trade. That happened when I was sitting at the table table. It was kind of humorous. So I I so I did it and I asked him on my Yo is a school and he's like yeah so I just like how do you feel about it already. That the fact that I know and I just don't Wanna I don't WanNa talk about that. I think everyone the media feels the same way because no none of the big names that we all usually go to for these stories. You know the the Johnston's the McKenzie's Kennedy's Lebron's none of these guys say these guys are comfortable breaking it as well. Paul and I think that all those guys moral compasses realize is that it sought something serious serious enough that needs to be said and brought to light from US whereas let's just let everyone find out slowly but surely if like like I said if it was something like abuse like the whole Urban Meyer situation where he I think he was made aware that the fucking assistant coach was beaten his wife. faulk thank you. I think no milk came out and said there the law. There's nothing like no perfect dumping looked into for anything illegal or he said that right right right but no ongoing criminal investigation so I mean what sucks is Dallas was looking good good and you want to go through. This guy's like ten years ahead. COCCHI spent five years at Denver. They WANNA national title he interviews with the Rangers in the interviews with the Dallas Stars. Jim Lights the Guy who last year came out in Ripped on Sagan and Ben. He said he never been in a more impressive interview in his life. I mean he crushed it from the start art. He was the guy that Jim nill wanted. He he he put his neck on the line right. I mean like if you think about how things started. It was a disaster cernan December. You had the comments will send Sega and Bandai go on. They catch fire. They they're a Jamie Benn. Wrap around short in overtime. A game seven on the second round beating the blues. Who knows they win the Stanley Cup? Then this year comes back and it was. I think it was the first time in a wiler since they were coming back with the same coach in Dallas. It seemed like there were always things switching. Their hitchcock went in the year before Montgomery and will then they start the season horrifically again and then they go they win seven a row and they get points in twelve th straight and all of a sudden things look great and more drama and he's gone so rick bonuses there now he's been illegal longtime things I read said that they were more Coach a together a lot to almost like a mentor to Montgomery. So it's different having a different voice. It's going to change things but still I think they're going to be coaching. The same styles is but it's definitely weird. They won first game without him so see if they can continue that. I don't know whether it was actual insecurity. Or he was just saying it to be modest. Bonus mentioned Ndiaye. He's he's like you know I I haven't been the boss man for a while and you guys got to be easy on me here because like it's a it's a whole different ballgame. Your you're like it'd be like bill. Check he's got to worry about everything or just being an offensive coordinator right is that a is that a I think. It's you describe the debt. Virginia's sister coach. What what'd you do last night? I fuck around with him and I'm saying they miss a pass and then all of a sudden you're the big dog and what sucks about it too is if you you were assistant in Fact Fox up. Nobody's fucking talking about the assistant. It's on you everything's on you. Let me ask you if Jim Nill gets this phone. Call State eight three months ago before all this coach and stuff is kicked up. Does he get fired three months ago if he gets this call. I'd have to get into it if I wanted to answer that question honestly and I just don't want when it all comes out. Can we revisit that absolutely. I'm not play on the spot. I'm just trying to pick your brain a little hobble. One what do you think short short answer. No Oh okay. You'll find out why when we're allowed to talk so if you're personally would you have press comets released a statement before somebody else. It has nothing happy to do with the with the climate of why all this shit happens. Day Don't abuse or anything. So does he ever get hired again. Another reason why I say say no. Then it's going to change. It changed because because something didn't anyway I think he'll never get hired again as an NHL coach or even a coach anywhere based on. I think for sure he'll get hired as a head coach again. I don't I don't know about the NHL just because of how how pc it has and how much public opinion can change things. It sounds like we can laugh off. I know like you said people speculating crazy. Things in people go to vices and stuff like that. I think we could say it wasn't that that phone hit a Phone hit he did a couple of weeks ago with the guys are asked them some kind of ridiculous questions. He kind of laughed a lot of them off. A lot of people thought that was it but I said if they fire culture it that's a that's a low fucking bar right there for people who have heard that Radio Interview Roy if you're the PR guy. I mean I feel like Dallas. She'd be like all right. You're not going on this show either away a radio interview. He didn't say anything remotely close to bad enough to get fired. That wasn't A. Here's here's where. I'm going to play devil's advocate on the fact that the head head coach and be going on shows like that is yeah. I guess there's a level of professionalism to it but when you're in a non traditional market and you're trying to get people in the building it's nice for people in the town to get familiar with. Who's WHO's the boss? I mean Dallas Cowboys. You don't need to Dallas Stars that guy's terrible Garrett House he's still have a job. Look I'm like down and looking for another coach to get fired with Jesus. Christ they're dropping like flies around. That guy's got pictures of Jerry Jones. I think he must have looked like headline Dallas coach fighting up along honey four sales out a way to me a hockey coach psychic. I might have mentioned episode. I coach the Bruins about thirty years ago. He looks like he's aged about five years in the last thirty years I wanted to join in his. He's got a tanning bed and is basement and you and he gets a five minutes on shied every day. Quick Quick Quick Bonus story one of the reasons I think he's my current favourite head coach in the. NHL is because Shane. O'Brien told me That when he was at Vancouver and OBI was on the back end of the conducts Rick said all boys that Whitney he doc and he's a player he snaps it so good head up. He runs the power. But we gotta be physical on. Emi's plant some great hockey and Obi told me after is the best feeling I've ever had afternoon. Shell game to hear the other coach. Pumping your tires. So Rick bowness. I love you wait you were close enough with ob when you guys are playing against each other where you guys would talk in the hallway every game now. He told me like years later. He's like I do one time. Rick bowness good you playing. It was awesome. I love what he's always snapping around last time. That was probably said about me was peewee Had I was planning and I was playing down. Boy Fuck with me such a good guys. We're GONNA get with what's hopes hoops playing wreck. I was playing rock hockey. rollerblades on your feet you at all hockey can spot built coaching shoes. You Dad bought the Harto captain apt from the other team. Who's got the lines drawn from Ensley and Lakewood said the ironic pot is down in a fucking Tia right before he got fired? lyod gun sixteen four and two and they'll ask twenty two and they they did win Tuesday night seventeen four and two in the last twenty three. Now I'm before that game seven for eighteen on the man advantage. There's no last seven including four goals and wins over Winnipeg New York. So this team was Rollin Man But you gotTA think I duNNo bonuses around. He should know enough about the about the second game. Not that I wouldn't anticipate much of a drop off here. Would you know I I. I really wouldn't goaltending so good for so long. What's what's weird? is their offense offenses in Greek. It's it's you got two guys Radulovich and Joe Pavelski who are in the top ten for worst point producing forwards that have played at least four hundred minutes five five. Yeah I mean. There's a healthy scratch. We didn't even get a chance to talk about that. And what do you know. He came back and had one on one against the islanders. This I came back and that was something where you who knows Montgomery and his relationship but you give them a game off you try to get him fired up to play and then it ends ends up. You look like a genius because he came back and he was going but Dallas has unreal structure defensively. They have really good deal. Could Skate. And their goaltending is awesome. So they're able to win games without scoring the way people thought they would. Yeah goaltending Stephanie. Even off earlier in the season it was rubbish. They got back. He was injured for a little bit but he he hasn't been putting up the numbers that he's he's used to put up. Nobody knows guys there. I think he's got. What does Klingberg have like ten points? I remember one year. He was an all star. He had like sixty excuse seventy points. Yeah two goals eight assists in Twenty six games busy job hopping on the back. Boys fucking lava guy just had it exactly Liane ten. They look at that more. My Shit Boy Somebody Sarah Point eight forty nine sixty seven Jesus sixty eight sixty seven points one year two years. Yeah I was there. I was at the All Star game of them. Not a big deal on I was there to fucking snuff box. But he was quite like but yeah no I think they're I think they're going to be okay now. What happens all of a sudden they go on a five game slide? Do they look to replace the head coach. I I'M NOT GONNA put it on bonus if he if all the aside. He's he's overwhelmed he he did make a comment about it. You might as teammate ago. Head are I think they said this is the coaching structure for the rest of the year. I don't think search alright. They they brought up the guy from there H. L. Affiliate and. It sounds like it's going to be almost more like coaching by committee but somebody does have to have the head coach title so they probably give it a bonus on a seniority. Maybe they're I'M GONNA start a new trend. We're we're teams higher to head coaches you know. Bring that bring that. You don't take a little pressure off one another. It's like the goaltending thing it's like it's like the Arizona Zona coyotes we've got to one a and one B motherfuckers you just talking about some stats and Minagawa I. This is a kind of little digression but this is Someone had finally watched. I'm sorry listening to Tim Stapleton episode. They dug up this old status actually a tweet from June of fifteen the top nine point permanent forwards with one hundred plus minutes minutes of five on four time between twenty eleven in two thousand fifteen. There's a list nine. Plays on it. Backstrom giroux whose nets off dat soup crosby ovechkin again Malkin Stapleton virus able then is number eight on his bucket list of nine play. All this wasn't on the boy keys. A Website this that just like working is a computer skills that is every single name is like possible Muscle Hall of Famer. And then you've got states. Yeah again that's top nine points per minute forwards with at least one hundred minutes of five four time between twenty eleven twenty fifteen very particular Lestat but just the fact is name POPs up hilarious since we're on the topic. We like we like being inclusive. We like our fans Knowing what the fuck is going on and we were pondering wondering Before we started recording recording today. Excuse me would you guys be down with a blank keys. And what's how am I forgetting in his right name right now Jesus Christ ten infants stapleton. Excuse me God we. We'd really kicked in right there and we WANNA do. Everyone's favorite word content piece with down with them Dallas and bring them. They're just please give some feedback online at. That's something you guys would be down for more stapleton in long form and on camera so we need your feedback folks folks. If that's someone you want. Let us know we're GONNA fly them in for the winter classic. Maybe we'll maybe we'll get some other stuff too. I know everyone hates the word content but we need to figure out who were playing. Dan engulfs is steeped. Bugsy we got Teddy. We gotTA figure that okay. So I wasn't I wasn't going to drop the fact that we are going to have our second annual Sanger sanger invitational now. There's a lot of names in the bag right now. It's just a matter of getting them there and and whether they time like right now. Jr Jr if you're listening we'd love in Dallas. Because I fucking Benji over on the golf course and I think how many we get seven hundred fifty thousand views on the last one and and I know that any type of public pressure from all of our twitter fans just hammer. Jr and tell them I'll fucking sandbag shit out of him. And I'M GONNA we. Let's go thousand whole Jr.. No No. He's not too much. We'll see those partners before Easter I get the okay okay. I didn't know if that was too much. Okay we'll just cut this. Ah I'll bend you over for one hundred whole jr all right so bring bring whoever the fuck you want. You can bring tiger woods. Bring any your celebrity friends buddy. Okay nobody pretty sandbags nasty on the golf course ask Sydney McKinnon to the top five hockey players in the world. I embarrassed them on the national stage. And I will do the same to you you pecker had already. You're going to be there caddying for us. Man Really J just driving the cartridge. I think Whitney is much more appealing. Okay okay perfect and I hey. After the Dallas went on Tuesday teams that have made a mid season coaching. Change this season and are now thirteen. Six hundred a new head coaches outta leaves six and three the the flames of six and Oceans Jeff would took over The devil still haven't won yet. Oh three and one under Alice Allen Nasserddine Stars WanNa know under bonus and guys. Nobody knows how long on these current coaches will ask but spit Chiklis. 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You can get first month of swipes which is five dollars when you choose a monthly plan if you use the link yet Roman dot com slash jackets once more. That's yet Roman dot com slash tickets. That's C. H. L. E. T. S.. And I will add that guys like let's not be heroes here like there's sometimes in your with a a new girl new pussy and you get that extra half an inch and you're all horn up and then you stick it in there and about five seconds and you're like Oh my God I'm GonNa blow with a minute. I'm going to be a pathetic loser in this hot chick is never gonna WanNa fuck me again guys. We've all been there trust me. Yeah okay so this can help you got actually Matt Harvey Text Me the other day asking for. He's probably GonNa love the fact that I said that on here but why be embarrassed. Bear spy that every single guy listening to this has has premature ejaculation at least once in their life. And if you tell me you haven't you're fucking Harto. Oh and I don't believe you. Okay if you think if you're going to tell me you've never premature ejaculated I will pay for it. Fly You hooked up to a lie detector machine and and if and if if it fucking says that you are not lying and you've never done that maybe I'll give you a thousand bucks like going to take off in the golf course and Biz. When it happens happens the best line uses? I'm just so hot I can't help you know I mean. I got along those lines if it were to happen. Of course I had my guy it only gets better. Just say. Just give me fifty minutes ago again. CLICK NAPA boys The League held its Annual Board of governors meeting in Pebble Beach and eye. Gary Bettman's big talk with this Jio is about quote unquote hockey culture. He unveiled a four point. Plan for addressing Abuse in hockey culture this whole shit. We've been bugging beaten to death last month The four point plan consists of a number one is to whack teams with quote severe discipline and quote if they do not inform the NHL about abused that they become aware of. I'd ought to be fines Take pick away. Suspensions even firings number two a mandatory program every coaches. GM's all front office personnel canal about counseling consciousness. Raising sounds like something visibly into education and training on diversity inclusion I mean that's like a sixties term like raise. Your consciousness is just the by shrooms in your fucking. That's all I need. You look a little confused over there just trying to go and all. I'm trying to think what I'm going to say about about all this Bravo on the NHL acting so fast on all this because of the climate like listen pc culture you spoke and they fucking listen. They got right on this. They had a board of governors. I don't know if that border covers meter weeding was already planned. But obviously that was addressed and now that they had this whole layout and and not only our Our teams and coaches. Well aware that none of this fucking nasty business is going to go on anymore but now if it does somehow slipped through the cracks that there will. We'll be punishment and good on the League for doing that. I don't think like like like obviously. Some people still have an issue that they thought it was a systematic problem that it wasn't address before now all but it has okay. It's been addressed Dave address their side of it. Now let's move on. Just finishing up at number. Three is disciplined for acts that fall under a gray area. And this is. I think where things can kind of get a little fuzzy because I mean I'm not sure Pete Alive. You'll let Komo to remember the the clippers everyone thought he punched Villanova head. Exeter president. Yeah he was kind of going to hit his hand and he come out he said. Oh I don't WanNa want people thinking this is what happened because it didn't happen in Plano fucking kind of agreed with them so I think when you talk about a gray area it can get a little iffy defeat number four. They're going to set up a hotline for people to report incidents in unacceptable conduct it can be anonymous if they choose it was. I read the article on the on the athletic and there was a cadet. It may maybe kind of chuckle. The first one as a Columbus blue jackets fan. Can I call into the hotline clam abuse by this team on their fans past nineteen plus years which brought got a little levity to a dock situation. But like you said is credit to the League for drafting a plan But you know you're talking about decades at culture so things aren't going to change overnight but things are moving in the the right direction and it's about putting people on notice. I you know that this shit's not going to be fucking tolerated anymore. And that's why it's always important to be right and not. I like the labile that thing because obviously it has thing was snowballing so everyone was just collecting as much as they could to. Just be like here see. Look there's another one we'll fucking for like twelve to twenty four hours. There's lobbyists name's getting dragged through the mud online. Where in fact it was just an accident and then the story was confirmed? And and and you know I I know that everyone probably is well aware that it was an accident now but but fucking like chiloe take a breath. Make sure you fuck it in at least investigate before you start dragging someone's name through the mud publicly publicly it's fucking crazy very well said by all you guys I just. It's so funny. Picture told Blake like toll. We have our diversity and it's feelings meeting before the season at eleven thirty. What Johnny Goddamn Swedes? At My team my cigarettes Jesus Christ yeah But Hey it wasn't all bad boys as Saas some good stuff could potentially be in the pipeline. The League does want to bring back the World Cup hockey. Some version of it The timeline does depend pending negotiations with the NHLPA But a twenty twenty one world cup of hockey or something equivalent is certainly a possibility. It's believed the NHLPA also wants to tie in Participation in the two thousand twenty two Beijing Olympics as part of any international agreement which we'd all be in a downfall. What what I thought I read that it's for sure now? There won't be a twenty twenty one world cup you talking about Geordies blog yesterday because Jodi wrote there wouldn't be that counters what I read on the athletic. Okay all right so I I I tweet suck on that. One Jordi- I don't even know if it was from him. Must have been no because you right away. What I must've saw awesome? I went and double checked after. But you know it's not it's not a definite yet but certainly leaning that way and Batman also said they aiming for more of an international flavor at the twenty twenty anyone all star game not the one. Why not so yeah bring it back? They did it a few years ago. So you know there could be some good stuff coming out that I mean obviously ask guy. We would love to have another World Cup of hockey and the Olympics. I mean listen if I saw Gary Bettman rate here. I'd say you know on the Olympic situation. This isn't a player owner. This is you've got going to the I o sea or whatever and saying you better start fucking bucking up. Because he's owners are paying these guys salaries if four of them go over there and to comeback hurt and they can't make a playoff push to make money. Well what are they. Why are they going there to play? Took to put money in the pocket that corrupt organization. Let's work out a deal here. That's the moneymaker at the Winter Olympics. Everybody's watching that hockey. It's the greatest hockey on earth. Ever it it brings out the best in the game so fucking fucking. Let's go let's start pointing the finger at the I. O. C. or is that is that how you say a diocese embracing the comedian. Think I'm wrong here. Like how much money money do think they capitalize off of a bring hockey the Olympics. Why is it like why is it like Oh we just don't pay the sports? We'll we'll why doesn't skiing fucking show showing the numbers on. WHO's watching ski downhill skiing? Compared to the gold medal game I actually think downhill skiing gold medal coverage is probably like right up. That's really yeah. That's huge okay. All right well maybe not as old mantle hockey game but one of the bigger winter Olympic events. But busy right and they you said it like why would they lose their guy. Remember to virus got hurt. I think it was diverse I don't know I'd love to see I'd love to see it happen. I just I just WanNa let's see 'cause Yipper will be on team China. Maybe they'll get in will be running around trying to take people I love. I want to say I apologize if I've offended downhill skiing. And maybe I'm naive livas. What type of revenue viewership? They're getting I was a big piece. I just fan. I just have a hard time taking the Olympic Committee seriously when they're like considering bringing in east sports and then now all of a sudden. I'm ludicrous for talking about paying hockey because paying the players because there is risk involved in these players are professional. National athletes like they're considering bringing E. Sports in the fucking Olympics. Am I guess it's a little crazy pills here. Yeah it's a little ridiculous fucking king nuts man. Yeah I mean I listen video games. I know that you can make eleven nowadays but to compare them to actual fucking physical sports like that so so. There's there's the hypocrisy poxy right there. Is I believe. They took out wrestling out of the the summer Olympics. Could you think of a more traditional thing than wrestling in the fucking Olympics. It's it's like the purest form of Spoil Your share about that. They've taken out some events that are very traditional because guess what they're probably just not getting the viewership viewership which means more dollars for them so they're willing to compromise the integrity of the Olympics because of more dollars when in fact they don't Wanna Shell it out to a sport. That's come on man. There's a level hypocrisy there that is their corrupt organizations so gary needs to buck the fuck up. The first and thing I did post retirement media wise was the World Cup in Toronto when they had the the young rose the UN. The team North America goes pretty cool actually and me and Merrick and Colby Armstrong did a facebook live in between periods of the Canada Games. So maybe that footage is out there. Mike Yeah I'd love to see how I started off. Survive improved at all. If any but just reminded the World Cup. That was the beginning of This whole run immediate dominance you might media raunch and I remember running back to the hotel. Try to connect with Ra. Talk about the Bruins for forty five minutes and maybe a couple of movies that I've never heard of I always obviously now nowadays fucking. NHL Superstar stroking him off in the hallway. He doesn't he doesn't sit in the. What do they call it? The caged area the what about the ball gang guy who called you like ninety five percent bowl gangs from Charlestown so you know it was. Ra's body said this guy actually. Wasn't I eight. These one guy did no but it was. It was fine. How like you said mckinney? Got A big kick out of it than I did. They call it the cage. Excuse me like where they make like friends and family. Let me wait when when you're kinda dislike but when you're like more import like let's say like mcdavid old man he ain't waiting in the fucking cage. Come on. You're you're you're you're the non-cage guy you're just walking through like your goddamn joy out. Speaking of the Olympics there won't be any team Russia whenever the next Olympics I because they got another four-year ban for doping I it costs. You know they can play with that silly other low. You know a Olympic athletes from Russia like they did a few years ago in a really good a comprehensive read on I. I think I tweeted out. If we can tweet it out from the chocolates. Accomplished the Fella Slava Malamud. I think that's how you say his name. He used to be a Russian journalist. inrush she's a Russian in guy lives in the states. I believe now. He gave a really in depth. Answer to why Russia's just GONNA keep on Cheating I. It's actually pretty interesting to to see like the whole mentality there. And they kind of have like an assault against the world thing then they just keep puck and cheating. It's fucking crazy documentary a couple of years ago. Well for laughing and business face I I wonder what's excuse me for this one and it's such a shame because everybody gets banned because I don't know ninety nine percent set of cheating but there are some who aren't and now they don't get the compete in the Olympics man. That might have been their dream. It's such a God damn shame and I mean surprise. Surprise fries and you're right they never will stop cheating. I bet you I bet you. They winning the APP. Get it under fifty percent of the people competing cheating now. Well some Russian athletes still. We'll be able to compete. They'll just have to wear that. Hideous Olympic athletes from Russia Jersey. They had who a few years ago. They just can't be a team Russia that's all Russia nation can't can't compete because of this has been an and he goes into detail about how the IRS is Jeff and International hockey the Abassi their baby basically beholden to Russia because Russia just gives them so much fucking money that they they're all kind of cahoots together. It's real good though. And when you say they they got busted again like when they were doing their world trials there was so many Russian athletes that got caught. They're like okay. You guys got another four year. Basically yeah I mean they. They got that stuff the documentary that won the best documentary a couple of years ago. Yeah like like like this guy says in the article they they just go. That's what they do. They're just going to go back to cheat and again like we'll we'll have a g tweeted out for anyone wants to read it but it's it's it's very interesting to go into how you know a country. Under a dictatorship fucking operates in I in this day and age so I I can't even I couldn't tell you about what meds do what but we'd accept we'd but but from what I heard that the ability ready to cheat is so much more advanced than to get caught. That's why a lot of them are cheating. It's just that only a small portion. We're getting caught and it's usually just like you slept or the wrong day. They got tested or something. So I mean you gotta think everybody in the Tour de France is on on the juice while that's what it all went down. And when that documentary broke and all the one of the biggest dirtbags of all time in Sports Lance Armstrong Dylan. Anyone tell you different. That guys are rat. It really was ruining people's lives is lying the whole time he really did. It's one thing to lie. It's one thing to like. Bring people out in your ars and a war. God He had that Oprah interview afterward I was like but I suppose the fucking I try to give him almost like a sociopath sociopathic the crazy thing and actually you know it's not just fucking Russia who's trying to stay ahead of. The cheetan is a great dog. I think I talked about earlier. It's called screwball wallets about the whole baseball biogenesis stuff billy Cobb and he's a great documentary directed from Miami. He directed it and he had young kids. Play the roles of all the prominent O.'s. Very a will you saw so you did catch up watching it it's It just shows you how these guys you know they know how to cheat if if you stay on the fucking rights schedule because these guys were all in Baseball Edna weren't getting away with it. It's when they deviated from the from the script so to speak that they get caught but yes she's our interview today Oh Hall Nella God him him an Ra were playing tummy sticks the whole time. You guys were movie. Quoting us to death. LOVES NELLO MORE THAN ANYONE REVERSE sixty nine. You guys had on during that fucking interviewer mallory. When he said he looked like that act does like you just didn't stop staring as is the rest of the Zahn? He he definitely. Looks like like Steve Zahn. But yeah he's the guy who is an article in the New York Times about him This guy is super fucking multimillionaire. He's gotTa be worth tens of millions. He inherited his his father's Candy Company. Sold off in this guy fucking takes twenty hour bus rides in like the middle of the country junior leagues just to be involved with the game and and the stunts. He pulled to stay to go from one team to another. It's fucking hilarious. I thought it's extremely interesting interview. This guy's a true character and you're going to enjoy it. We get to it in a little little bit. What's up as we have some new listeners? This is the second time this guy has been on the first time you guys go back to interview. We talk more about how he used to call teams and act as his own agent. We I think we briefly graze over in this interview. But this is more about how he's transitioned into coaching and Ra. You touched on it. This guy loves the game of Hockey Rocky. He I pretty sure he's got a decent savings account a little band there. He has no business being on in the leagues. That he's traveling on those buses but that's how much he loves the the game and these salt. These types of salt of the earth guys are the types of guys we love having on the podcast because they are just. He's he's a character he's he's a a fucking cartoon character and I hope you guys enjoy the second time around. And how long do we have him. G fifty minutes fifty fucking minutes. Enjoy folks yeah and you know when you when you download it too because you have the liberty to tell shitty. ONA's go fuck yourself. I'm not working for you anymore. You know that's true that's true. I shift them back to the ICE. I hate congrats. Washington's woody laid dig. He Works Twenty fifth hundred game as the cavs assistant equipment manager. Monday night We've been given a little bit of shine to these guys lately. Like we do. The coaches and players started as a stick boy over thirty years ago. He's been with the cap the thirty one years in another nice little story. Well came tragedy but when he had his day with a cop he actually brought it to the Capital Gazette newspaper. They had had a shooting a few days before that some of their employees were killed. And just I think shows you what type of guy who was as day with the company brought it Kinda chips and people who just had a real tragic incident. INSOLE congrats to woody on his twenty fifth hundred game as a manager of a lot smelly jocks for sure but boys Tuesday night man. I know today's Thursday but we had some funny. He stopped going on in the NHL Tuesday dougie Hamilton Song Coskun and he faked the show from the redline fucking right on that. You guys must have caught that fucking all over the Internet. I mean Christ. You might dethrone Keith until Keith can fuck and put one of the net doing it. That was that was beautiful and I was. He doesn't eat. They keep score. Doing it. Yance in Nashville are able to bite my tongue and I am sorry to the Song Mastered Third The O. G. Salt man now. Should we have a song thrown that we pass on content piece. Actually I wasn't saying thank you said. Content and fucking say content I was saying is is right now. dougie Hamilton is the NHL Song throne holder and then against has the battle back yards order. Even be fucking looking for his teammates anymore. I think a true song is the fake rim around on the four checker. Like I'd rather that because the goal he gets beat the goal is trying to do the goal and stop the puck and make the move the four checkered far. The net has no business biting on the rim around that so I will smooth on go easy on the go easy on the guys who would buy because I fucking ask her but upside Biz. Oh No I was gonna say well then we have to think of a name for the the one where you song can score. Yeah I'll come up. Maybe that's worked. Worked for our fans are a they have to think of a new name other than Songbook as opposed to the when they scored a goal in a few of them. They actually did point out there. Terry Ryan may have been the originator because he actually. She scored on a similar play. Years ago. So we gotta give props to allow terriers well very similar boys fucking Jack Eichel on fire at two more goals. Tuesday Tuesday save is five to win over the Cup Champs lose. He's got a fourteen game point streak it's carly the NHL longest active with twelve goals thirteen assists total at twenty five points. He's the third guy to get twenty goals so far she has done it in thirty two games also elevated buffalo to second place in a very tight and competitive Atlantic division. And we're also starting to hear a a lot more hot talk about him on TV and the show on the TV show up in Canada we watch on any GEL network everyday. NBC's talking about what you've been watching. Jackie play he's been outstanding ending A. It's been a it's been special to watch six scoring right now. And what's really cool. I think for Sabres fans more than seeing him turn onto the legit superstar. Superstar is is that they had the great start last year alley made the shirts it went to Shit. They had the great start again without shirts. It it was starting to go to shit. nope no he's pretty much said that is not going to happen again and their backup to second in that division Toft Division and I thank you look more than anything at it being not that much of a surprise as good. He's as planned and I still think we brought this up in the season preview of this the Atlantic But it was the first year fifty six point second fifty seven sixty four point eighty two. He's going past eighty two this year. Guys knock on wood that he stays healthy. So Oh you just see it. Continually rise in. That's tough to do I mean five years in the NHL. They continue to get better. Show too I think you tweeted Grenell. Saint Louis deciding adding to let him walk behind the net Tuesday night and have nine seconds to just pick it more. I want to cover in either finance. Co Drag. Nobody wants to get highlighted A poster is caught in the NBA. I just I'm happy for him. Because he's he's a great guy. We've talked to them before he worked so hard he cares about the game cares about his team and I it was really hard for a player. Who's that good and wants to win that much to go through the past couple of years so the success that they've had is is in Maine part because of him but also there's a lot of other guys that are carrying their weight in Buffalo? It's good to see. I could not be happier for him with and and you know when they went through that collapse lot last year I think you know I I know a lot went on Housley. I feel like they were hammering down him questioning maybe his leadership. And you know I would imagine that he took that to heart and and put the work in this off season and and keep in mind to like now they do have a fairly competent roster and and they're young and they're you know they're they're probably just going to keep getting better and better and because they're competent and they do have some guys in place you know maybe they are able to track some free agents. It wasn't easy when they had nobody. Because then you gotta live like no offence to Buffalo. But there's nicer places to live and you're you're paying up the fucking state tax up the WAZOO and I know like we joke about that all the time but those are factors in when going to a place like Buffalo. You're like yeah go there from getting over fucking fucking paid so I mean I'm just happy for that organization in general the fan base and I guess now we really know it in fact was grenell. He's fault last year because he either Charles Taylor halls in name that they're rumored actually that's another one that I heard a rumor about him. Going fucking listen if policies like you know what man that's a fun group rope and th- but the problem is is is the only way Buffalo. It makes that move though is if he's prepared to sign their long-term because they're they're gonna you'd you'd make the move but you just the pieces would be so different without the the ability to get it like the marks. It has to be more extolling situation for them to give I'm saying is we're Buffalo. Awful is now they got to continue to grow and gain assets and get young guys. We're GONNA contribute. You're not gonna you'd be idiotic at this point in that organization's nations history to give up a first rounder for him even at the deadline or ending what if you could get them signed and you'd include include including Middle Stat and a couple of other pieces Bach. No I wouldn't get rid of metal stat. No I he's young like nothing taking nothing away from Halsey but he's going to sign a deal where he's built like a Ferrari right I mean and he has had had a little bit of an issue staying healthy correct throat his throat his career. Would you agree with that. Yeah yeah he's back because dude if you watch him play he goes full throttle he is it is fucking nuts to watch him go and when he goes at the net he if he attacks it when I when I started getting this close to the Nez you did not that I could even come close to skating as fast as you would. But you're well aware where you're kind of like concernable bodies flying through he fucking does and that's from at least the time that I've watched him play. So so you're you're thinking I'm going to have to maybe overpaid the sky and knowing I'm GonNa get four or five good years out of where you know on the end of it. It's you know He. He might be a bit deteriorated at that point. I mean look a guy like Gabric so you're signing like there you're saying you make assigning like that when you're closer to competing for the Stanley Cup whereas Buffalo. You like give them a couple more. Yes that's why I was so critical to Vancouver move by by getting TJ Miller for a first rounder are not J. ice cream works either way. Yeah he is attached while I was like I really like what Vancouver's doing and jt Miller is say Reagan. Yeah you got it there. Jt Miller he's made a big impact on this team this year. And they're within a playoff spot. They are currently right now. But it's like okay. Well what if you dip off towards the end of the season or let's say even you do make playoffs and you get a later seed and then you get Bump first row. What's you just gave up a first rounder? To get a guy who might not even be there in two more years and that could have been a fucking valuable pick now keep in mind aligned. It's I believe it's not lottery protected right so if they don't make playoffs this year they don't give up the first rounder from the fuck. What's that what's the scenario? Can you guys help me out here. I don't know I think if they make playoffs then they give up the first rounder. They don't they. It goes to next year next year. They fucking end up going. They end up having a shit off year and guys are hurt and all of a sudden it was the third overall. Pick to me. It's crazy west it. It's it's sometimes when you're going through these rebuilds. It's short term pain for long-term gain and that's why that's why during all transition Shen that comment to the Arizona coyotes era when we had when we had Dave Tippett. Dave Tippett didn't want to go through a rebuilt. He's a winner. He doesn't want to lose. He doesn't WanNa fucking win twenty Games back to back years to get assets. So that's where it's like as an organization you have to be like whole like we can't just keep getting the fourteenth pick we gotta we gotTA. It gets an impact players. We've gotta get our Connor mcdavid and we got and there was a few years that we ended up doing really shitty and we. We never got lucky. It would have been nice to get even the second overall all pick one of those years and we would. We would had our Jack Eichel then I mean now now things are going a lot better here. There were some growing pains. But I mean we still don't have our you're a mean. We have all of recommend Larson. That was a diamond in the rough. But we don't have our economy day but we don't have our Jack Eichel yet. We're hoping few these guys morphing into that Schmaltz. He's not far far behind. And I hammering me for transitioning it into the Arizona talk but had a first hand experience of like man like we can't just keep finishing middle of the pack here. We gotta make a decision on where we're going and if you don't have the money to spend like let's just take some shitty years here that transitions perfectly into the poor fans fans of the Detroit Red Wings and I should say that I tell you a little tongue in cheek at twenty five years of complete dominant. So this is what happens. But they've lost twelve twelve th straight and it's tough but it's what they need to do. How is Steve is going to build a team similar to the team? He played for him. Detroit all those years. He's is going to be bad for three to five years and in those five years you gotta be really bad you need top. Three picks is just said top. Three that is how you change a franchise which is and it sucks. But it's it is such a short term shitty situation is when you look at what you can build and what you can grow because a four to five five years of pain. 'cause then you know how good those twelve thirteen years or even longer if the GM really knows what he's doing and spends well and you look at Boston and how long that's gone on now granted. That's without counting top three picks. They'd say I go off the rails. What the whole point in Detroit is? This is what everyone knew. It was going to happen this year. And it's going to be the same next here but if you're a true fan of the team you understand what you've been through and what you've got to experience and you gotta be with you gotTa root on your team now you root for guys to grow and become better players you see Mantha get better you see how good for two years and then you just hope that it's going to get better again but to be like really negative down. If you're redwings fan I I would say it's not fair it it. Have you ever been part of a team that has a lou had a losing streak. That bad have I ever not been a part of a team. That's had a losing streak that all right well. How miserable is it going to work? Like is fucking like you dread going to work every day or you just try to find a little bit of joy. A light all depends on This sounds bad but like kind of like personal personal success a little bit when the teams really that bad so if there is a guy who having a good year it sucks to lose and guys are competitors. But it's a lot easier if you are playing real well but on a whole there's so many meetings with the coaches there's so many Locker rooms after a loss to so many bus rides to the airport where everything's quiet and nobody's nobody's really happy and you're just not doing what you're paid to do and that really wears on you now it ends up Not Going to say brings everyone down due to a certain level because in the end you go to these amazing dinners and you realize how much money you're making and you're in the NHL but in terms of looking at your dream of playing at the highest level in wanting to win it's tough when you're like man I'm on one of the worst teams in the league and every day seems to be a battle on great points with and just to piggyback off. That and they're going to be Shitty Shitty for a few years for the obvious reasons that you just listed off as a fan right now your main main concern should be. How's the culture? Are these young guys who are eventually going to make this team successful right guys. That are in place I think Dylan Larkin is an excellent on choice a very well like guy in the locker room he comes to fucking work. He takes his job very seriously and and he's a funny guy he you keep it loose and and I think that core group of guys really gets along like the Tuesay him you got far there now. And at any man Ron Horon accounting accounting notice as name is if that core group guys is coming in every day and I know they're on a twelve game slide and I'm sure things aren't enjoyable but if you're coming to the rink every day early you're putting in the work and you're genuinely trying to build and create that call winning culture anyway and get it back to where the glory days was then. You're okay back then. Yeah to be patient for a couple years and I wouldn't be I wouldn't be Hit the panic button just yet but if all of a sudden it's like these guys are bickering at each charter. And they're fucking. They're gonNA party all the time too much because they're like. Oh whatever we suck anyway. Then then I'd be a little bit nervous Biz. Let me ask you when when a team's going through a guy do even the jokesters in the room even tone it down during the bad streak or they do they try to keep it light just to you know keep things I don't know I don't know what their locker locker rooms like. I know that if majority of teams I was on other than junior. If if it ever got that bad toll my God it would be fucking in hell. I can't remember. I had unreal teams my last year in the American League. coyotes would with Dave Tippett. We were always competitive. Have we might have gone on a four or five game sly. You're never on a bad team. That bad of a team or junior junior. When I was in North Bay we had eighteen wins one year that wasn't a great year But maybe a few more than that. Maybe I'm often the number but then when I was in Saginaw yeah now. We're fucking brutal. We had like two years. Where we we had like ten wins? We we were like four four two after ten games on your and I think we won and I think we won eight games the entire year. So we we won. We won in in the last fifty eight games. We want four games but uh-huh by the way busy Saginaw we. We're welcomed up there anytime my boy brandon up in with the saginaw spirit. Dude I I will be going to Saginaw They WANNA bring us in. They WANNA fly us in dude. Why Roach coach coach class? I'm sure time out. If you WANNA go if you guys I wanna go of course. I just assumed you didn't go to Saginaw because you'd probably be on a golf course on and near beat somewhere I'm going to saginaw. That's where I started North Bay and then moved the Saginaw owner with my boy who Dick Garden Brandon. All did garbage the majority owners of the team from from North Bay and brought it down there. But I'm go there and that's where it all started buddy. That's where I had my first like serious girlfriend all every every Monday and Thursday morning she hear his voice again so many NYC. She's happy she's making Doshi. The deal of my fucking stank ass. She's doing just fine a voice. I quit not. Everybody knows about the risks of driving drunk. I could get you could get getting a crash. People could get hurt or killed. But that's still doesn't stop everyone could get arrested. You could incur huge legal expenses. You could possibly even lose your job. We all know the consequences of driving drunk. But one thing's for sure you're wrong if you think it's no big deal drive sober or get pulled over this holiday season Nitsa want you to remember but a plan ahead if you'll be celebrating if you plan to drink when I show but dr at take you home is your turn to be the designated driver. Take that role seriously and do not consume alcohol alcohol. Not even one drink drive sober or get pulled over with Nitsa support state and local law enforcement agencies across the nation of stepping up enforcement to put an end to drunk driving showing zero tolerance to save lives and I mean it should be common sense at this fucking stage of the game having a couple of boys and girls. fucking don't drive spend fucking twenty bucks on a little bit in status ten grand than a lawyer. It's kind of a no brainer and I've got a couple of other notes here before we do. Send it all. Say we should reach out to uber to get a spitting checklist checklist. Promo code to give to our followers. So they aren't fucking so no one is an idiot and they can get cheap uber during the holidays. Got Good good point. They're busy. Don't get can get cracking on some free plug by the way Uber. Yeah let's see some checks now we got a pit them against lifts off I can we can negotiate saying baby now as far as that. Jt Miller deal Biz. I got that hit right here. The conditions I if the connects do not make the playoffs. This season. The twenty twenty first round pick will transfer talk twenty twenty one first round pick instead so that was that condition. You're talking about and one other quick note on Jack I. He is on a fifty goal. Hundred Point Pace. The sabers haven't had one of those since they've had Patti La Fontaine and Alexander Mogilny many moons ago so obviously keep an eye on our boys progress but if think without further ado we ought to send it over to this Character Nello L. Ferrara these gentlemen. We have a guy who's coming back on the PODCASTS. As first time I love being number one on hockey DB be for obvious reasons because when you go look at his hockey DB page. It's a fucking nightmare. It's like Nicholas Cage looking at his national treasure maps ops. 'cause this guy was all over North America playing leagues. You've never even heard of hand. We're actually going to announce his official retirement from honking today on the fogcast. Welcome come back to this chocolates. podcast Nello Ferrara. Thank you gentlemen. Thank you the first time that you were on. It was with Biz and Grenell early. Ram weren't a part of that interview. No Way don't forget this guy I can tell already. He looked just like Steve. Zahn guy from your saving Silverman. You tried to save Silverman but I want to know how did you. What's your recollection of meeting? This not Biz. I played against him. When he was in wheeling and I was in Trenton and He was playing defense at the time. Easy just one of those guys. That was an all star in that league choice. Yeah what what. Salinas is like six. I rode the bench out there and I I just would kind of watch and obviously every time I played on a team or wherever lineup those looking at the PEC and the shitter looking at whoever had the penalty minutes. Because there's probably a good chance that that's how it's going to keep myself in the lineup is taking on one of those guys you know. I'd always asked the resident tough guy like who who'd you gotta be wary of. And obviously obviously his name was there so it was like it was at that period of time like sky can skate and he made the game look really really easy and defense and then sure enough. He fought He he fought a kid. I knew growing up. GENE-O piscine leany right in front of our bench and it was a slugfest and then Gino was kind of bent in half. And who's just unloaded on. When I was is that was it? I was like glad gene took care of it. I actually run into him. Now he's living in miscellany was Kids who played for the Plymouth whalers right and he came in the league and nobody really heard of him and all of a sudden. This kid was fighting everyone scoring like. He's fighting thirty times a year and getting twenty bucks. He did it for a couple of years. He actually got the better of me when we fought in junior. 'CAUSE I didn't fight that much but luckily at that point that's when I was fighting on five on threes on the coast I was getting a little hunger for it and he challenged me again and we had a good scout. There's pure look level on that team to and he will. Yeah I I would tell him. No because I'm so much better than you but in reality I just didn't want to fight he. He was funny was that he was when I first got there he was not fighting a lot. In the reason why is his right. Hand was really bad and I mean when he would unload on a guy didn't matter visor helmet on he just put everything he had into a kind of Tony. Twist and without looking back and and But what was crazy. As I remember talking to Malacca I'm like well I said you know what scouts like guy that can fight with both hands as if you can fight left handed man you got it made and I think like within the next couple of days we played Cincinnati and had a real big brawl with them and sure enough he He got one of their biggest guys is on there and he unloaded with his left than just pump them and then I think which is crazy because I thought he was a lefty. Maybe it was switch. More whatever his dominant dominant hand was was looked like it went through a blender but He just started beating the fuck Outta gays on a regular basis so the way that we got in touch so originally was I was playing with a guy named Michael Immersion Vincent Liberty and both guys from Chicago in. This guy organizes all the hockey skates for like that. Each guys or use some skates well used. It was It so the the first lockout that happened in ninety four ninety five hours eighteen years old. I was in between junior teams so I got the skate with a bunch. You guys GRANOLA got so. I actually saw these guys were mentally during the lockout. Losing all that money and stuff and So I just kind of sat back as an eighteen year. Oh Kid and say two words in the in the room and then the following lockout Oh four zero five when the League was completely shut out. Same exact thing happened so guys like what are we supposed I do and all this kind of stuff so kind of watched how they did it and then Sure enough the last lockout. That was only half the season. That's Kinda one things. He's really got the ball rolling because the problem is guys would run great skates but then they stopped because you just say hey listen can everybody. WHO's coming tomorrow? Please send a text if their inner out the the next two years. You've got six guys. Come and and guys not easy living in Chicago and training at the same time in the summertime of walking down the street all the tires prime hunting season. And so you I mean. These guys are just come in and they'd skate a day and they disappear ripping a two week flu. They wouldn't be the scene for two weeks and then they come into the they'd come to skate late. That sovereign panic mode. It was great so we were. When I was in Ontario? We were talking about This character and we were mentioning hockey. TV Bees and being a suitcase and they're both like all. We have this guy who helped organize summer skates back home in Chicago. Who has the wildest hockey DB ever seen and what this guy would do is he would call teams? You play the USA didn't play for a couple of years and there was calling teams acting as agent and convincing teams assign them to pro contracts and he would show up and obviously. It wasn't as advertised on the phone by whoever volcano guy. Can't can't shoes food Kelly Fool Kalamazoo for about twelve games. That was the biggest lease job. It there's one funny story about getting into it with a guy when you call them as your agent right why it happened in the beginning it was easy. 'cause the Internet was just kind of coming in Fox. You with a favorite you start in the seven. One hundred percent accumulate back like you'd be like those baseball players today. That in the in the in the minor in the Little League world series they say they're fourteen Herrera exactly but no. It was the one that got me was. I was calling Bakersfield. And they had told a story last time he was a French guy was assistant coach but I had called in the trade. Hold Paul Kelly the head coach and sure enough this This Guy Marine fix up the phone and he didn't really have a French accent to go and I said My name was Nellie Leshan I said I'm calling from Saint Pascal Ontario because I grew up going hockey school outside of of Ottawa. Jacques Martin's hockey school and I stay with his nephews. My best friends that they're from a small town called Saint Pascal Nella. He's tough as nails can skate. And I can't skate in my defense. I will never say I can do much but I was always you could motor and I love the hit so I did. I took what I could with and sure enough. The guy started speaking French and I said Oh shit and I hung up the phone quick. And I'm like I'm starting to get into a level of something that just didn't feel right. It was starting to feel like maybe I'm going too far with this bill. Catfish sure enough. I call it a buddy of mine and he. I didn't I didn't even realize he was playing in Bakersfield. It was a kid. I went to hockey school with Back in that hockey squad you spoke of and he got me in and that kind of set the pace ace but I started doing that from place to place and then The last time I did it Some guy I can't remember was it was maybe maybe I think it was my Cavin He was in maybe Atlantic city or so me said mellows issue and then the the cat was out of the bag. So I can't doc great as I came in every trick camp I went into I put my heart and soul and I was always in tiptop shape and and I did the things a lot of guys did WanNa do you know anybody I know I. I love the hostile. Yeah I didn't think twice about fighting anybody and I I always have my wits about it. You know what I mean like in I never never got beat up. Thank God because Coulda gotten beat up real bad but I have no regret for them. You did this for about ten years like you would call and faked that you were. Your own agent is ten. I'm just looking at all. Because after a bit my name and did get out there and they they they knew I would. I was kind of fuel us out there and I played with a purpose. You know it was one of those things where they knew they weren't gambling bringing me in right and knock on wood. You know one of the things I wanted to come in is like I want to be good locker room guy. So a Lotta Times I get brought in and they said listen I need you. Sometimes they go into places that I wouldn't talk. I just be quiet but sometimes I get I get signed and let's listen. We got to change the culture in the room. You've got to get it more positive and I went to a lot of teams that were in bad situations on You know as far as what they're there were in in in in the in the banding standings and it was you you'd see teams that was like the Nordiques from like ninety ninety one like no no light at the end of the tunnel and then they'd end up folding so those were really tough situations but at the end of the day. You're doing it because you love to do it. And you're you're taking pride in it. Put a lot of work in doing. Doing it wasn't like I didn't care about the identity of being hockey player. I just want to play the fucking game and play the way I grew up watching it as I look. I look through the hockey. Can you be. I don't know if you were over the last time I once again I apologize but you got one goal. You gotTa pro-ball Bloomington Blades. What was the Golick? It was the ugliest goal. If you WANNA talk about hockey gods. They were all in the building. I got it took all of the gods odds to gather their together for you to get one. Mathematicians can't put a calculation how this actually went in the forensics team the angles. This is. This week's Ed's It was. We were getting blown out. And we're down to five D and I'm playing the left side. I got the park and I had a quick release. We saw got it and I threw it knuckled in it like three hopped into the net over the goalie's right pad off the three hats off the ice. It's no one. I love how he threw a quick release. Had together the agent side of them you know is awesome. It went in and I just stood there and I had a teammate on the other on the that was in rapid city the time I was playing for Bloomington and he couldn't believe it take us. There's one you celebrate with. Maybe it was crazy so I went to the bench and I actually got choked up. I'm like you know what I probably wish. I never fucking scored that would have been even better header. Got The one so Yeah it was. It was another guys came up to me there shaking my hand afterwards like it was hilarious. How hard you go that night? We got on the bus and went back. Yeah but we We had some beers on the bus. I was watching the wire at the time I was this getting L. O.. Nello common. y'All he what's up with this scratch rough riders. Sure looks like your coach. Look like a coach of the way it's jeans or any lounge called except bus close and I want to just wanted to make it official on that story though so when they told told me about this. I looked at the guys hockey and I tweeted out a thread being like this guy used to call teams as agent in the New York Times not reach out to we do a big debt and then the New York Times came out and I hesitated to do like when you did that. I woke up in the middle of the night and my phone was blown up so I thought someone in my family died right business. It's like the same thing so I'm working in sabotage so anyways my wife's like what is going on Mike and I'm trying. It takes me about three hours a week up in the morning like I'm still half F- out of it but it's I got it and the next thing was all these people start calling and there is some there. Were some Weirdos you know sending stuff through twitter to try to get a story and stuff and they ended up not not being able to like real sports. Bryant Gumbel reached out ESPN did and like just a pyramid stuff. And I really wasn't interested interested in doing it but this kid from the New York Times he'd reach out to me a couple times and seem pretty serious about it and he was pretty real about the Mike. I'll talk to you about it. and He sure enough he flew out and tell Tell me around town for a day and it was a picture that use them at sixty at the flow. We'll go on. Yeah now you got the the didn't get a cut. It trimmed proper in the show. I buried the lead for those. Who who who don't know the headline on the story is how Candy Air sneaked into pro hockey and made his name as the savage? So you'd have family owned a large candy company correct. We used to WHO will migrate. My great grandfather came here from Italy and I he was A. He was a translator for the railroad company and they came a baker and then the bakery volved in the candy factory and it was my great grandfather my grandfather my dad and myself. I don't have any brothers. My Dad didn't have any brothers. My grandfather didn't have any brothers so it's a very unique situation. I'm the only one left now so I'm the only Ferrara so it's like the movie last Mohicans. It's time to plant the seed or it's the end of my my acid eleven exactly. So what's the status of the company right now. I'd sits on by a new company. The FERRARO Farrell Company. A privately held family company from Italy. They own tic TACs Natella I mean they're they're big big time still got a piece Solano. It's completely out. Yeah which is kind of what's unique about us you you know you come from money but like nobody would ever know your dislike the most down to Earth Guy. You have a very very interesting story we I mean. That's just the hockey side of is just a little fraction of it now. You we were talking about before we were recording you end up core unquote retiring which is from playing for efficiency. I say the press conference has been held right so very loosely. Considering your irap she but you end up buying a building and in the midst of your retirement yet making your own are for your buddies. Now let's start from the top. Well I'm one of those guys that I gotta be doing doing something. I can't stand her sitting around so my dad got sick late that summer I had I had shoulder surgery a It was my last game. It was about two weeks before the season's over so I had surgery and I was really laid up and I'm like I got to figure out what I'M GONNA do here to keep busy because with my dad being sick and stuff I just you got to keep your mind going and and I bought this building that it's it's it's a commercial building with an apartment on top of one of their wanted to take on a small project to kind of learn how to to redevelop in in in in Gutten. You know flip it maybe not flip it but just learn something I mean and and I bought it and the first floor had to get done apartment. But then there's this basement in the in the in the building. I was always a basement. Kid I if you came to my house. PERCENT SHOT POX my brother down there. Yeah Well No. We used to try to Jack. My my my my best friend. Bill was a baby the family. And there's a guy you could talk about on the show all day. He he was a first kid to really get into his Kimmel. Kimmel box and intrepid so he can get the playboy channel for free all the spice town exactly thirty six on the old time cable box. This is like in the mid eighties. Yeah like bill was great at that you know and then we would do that and then obviously we got caught. My Dad caught us but it was funny. That cable box actually in his room and I'm taking this and you'll see it again but I I went down in the basement mm-hmm and it was literally something out of the movie science lamps like. I'm not scared much but I would not sit in this basement by myself. It was just a very creepy deathly gross place. And I'm like you know what I sat on a bucket. One time with a buddy of mine and I envisioned when I was going to turn it into a bar slash lounge for me and my buddies at all. Move back to the neighborhood so we can have a place to go. We'll share enough. Nobody uses it anymore so we do periodically but it really is an awesome. Didn't you have The Cobra Kai guy for the guys. I opened percents. Mardi cove for me. It was the bad want increase. The the teacher exact. Guys a savvy. Punches the windows when Mayaga ducks so he's he's good actually he was on the man cow. Show this morning. And what's that It's a radio show. I think it's national or I don't even know but He was on the man Kaushal this morning in sent me a text. My seat is going to give me a shout out to it but He is one of the coolest guy I've ever met. He was just. We had him come in as an honorary guests. Just something out of the eighties and I actually went to Dallas the the Siyam right when the season was over this past year data comecon and I didn't in order COMECON was so I went down to this comic con. We walk into the hotel. He's like stay at this hotel. This is where we're staying Babo and they got the Cobra Kai TV. Show going on Youtube. Now which is is one of the hottest. TV shows gone idea. And he's in it and the whole original cast is and So he comes in and got an officer down Dallas my my buddy Damon and I go to Dallas. We get into the hotel and sure enough. Christopher Lloyd dock from back the future walks past us and I'm like Holy Shit doc of also Jimmy Husky exactly for Cuckoo's nest that we're we're we're all GONNA probably be in that room one day so I bet a nickel dime Martini better diet. Danny Devito these guys all in my cigarettes question whether this is one of the cougars and I saw that movie is awesome. It's great but we gotta go take a walk walk after to clear the mind after he takes place. Yeah but so we go in there with check in the hotel next. We're going to the elevator. Later in life comes walking out from the future flying. I look out loud go. It's fucking I couldn't believe it. Surreal realtors like we're out like you see Wayne Gretzky and you get like. Oh my God are Bobby Orr or Gordie Howe all those movies. You don't get those feelings when you get in our age in and it's pretty cool you take a terrific and then I got to see Leah Thompson who I had the biggest crush on in my life. You know girlfriend. Yeah mother mother but she was the second time she was dynamite Do Paying Thirty K pop pop for of intelligent a bag please. One hundred percent he nailed it. So you go into these things. It's a huge huge Convention Center right and they have all these shops were all these people sell their little memorabilia and stuff that they've actually made themselves and then they in unlike the back area there's boots like they have at a autograph session at a game like in the hallway or something here and all these actors based on whatever movie they were in select they had a bunch of guys from the lost boys. They had Back to the future there they had the Cobra Kai guys there they had some Lord of the rings guys there but it will in some goonies guys. It was hilarious because I'm sitting at the bar that night and I and I and I look over in the Corner Dunk Corey Feldman. Oh you know mouth. So I'm just like Corey Feldman's like five five you know what I mean just a little guy and they looked to my right. And there's there's an Asian guy standing next to me and sure enough. It's data back that John do this every time characterised. It's hard not so anyways but these people people go there and when you go to the counter you have like. There's three different options. You can buy a picture an eight by ten of the person in the movie like in the scene or whatever her and then there's all these different levels you pay X.. Amount for the picture just to get autograph. Then it's x amount to get it personally autographed than its x amount to take a Selfie with the guy and then it's all these different things packages four five hundred bucks right. Christopher Lloyd get an autograph picture thing was one hundred and twenty dollars. Personalized one of my nephews is a huge back future intricate. So of course I'M GONNA go get it for this guy's an older guy is legendary actor. It'd be unbelievable. It's here's a catch only cash cash no credit cards so the ATM's spitting out money and you know these people they lose control themselves on the I you know what I mean. It's all right there at a strip club. Take us that the rippers say that. Yeah money's just substance you know what I mean. It's paper what they see. I don't know if you know these are the things that the people show up they. All dress is up for. Oh Yeah for sure. Thank tens of thousands of people like fucking bad where in Jersey to a game. If you're an adult dressing up job Chaba fucking hot or the Lord of the Rings people there there. There's one guy that dressed up as the clown in it one of my best friends. Tim's got a terrible. He's got a really bad. Fulbe of clouds wants so this guy had like the legit clown thing from it so I walked up to him with my phone and say. Can you do me a favor and say hi to my friend Tim and sure enough. He's got the feek teeth. There's hi term. I mean this guy nailed it. I'm like this guy probably spent the last two years to do what he did. And it was unbelievable. Like you can't can't tell the difference. And he spent all the money in his bank account master fake rule. The last time you're on I think we talked about your two week Bachelor Party that you have foil on a Bachelor Party. He threw a party at Lake Tahoe for two weeks. Seventeen days we put into. We put a day and a half in for travel. Get there. There's no chance there was a guy that stayed all seventeen. No those guys were in and out. Actually nobody stayed seventeen days except you soaps was supposed to stay. What was is that that movie's is it? Smoking ACIS smoking as the end of it. You are up in the hotel room alone Buckingham. Just staring out in the common it was. It was awesome if you haven't been Lake Tahoe. It's just the magnificent is on its version of Penticton and Colona But I wanted to go somewhere. I'd never really been and somewhere unique in Canada somewhere. That would be a draw to get guys to come in. You know like the hardest latest thing I always say this over and over his hardest part about the end of a season and being done playing as you make so many friendships with guys in situations that are very serious serious situations like especially the role you play and stuff and when you know when you're ever going to see those guys again it's I have a hard time with it because it's you know I'm a lot of good friends does your it sucks but I wanted to kind of be to were guys. Couldn't resist and it worked. I think I can't remember how many guys I think it was like. Forty three guys came in through period of time. And I'd say seventy percent were probably old teammates. That's awesome awesome. You know what I mean like did something right. Not just hockey but plan bachelor. Go their rent this magnificent house and again upsetting me a picture and you asked me up the infrastructure for this podcast. Keep the Change Doc. Let's very good trial attorney fucking completely out of control work. What is you figuring on there for that? You know seventeen days at a three days here. Three days are everyone will eventually be able to make time to come in one hundred percent. And I it. You can't canada-based China based it to where I didn't give them out. You know what I mean. It's like well if it doesn't work this week income that we can doesn't work that we can become that weekend and if you can't come during the weekends because you gotTa do shit for the kids baseball or football and you come during the week you gave you gave no up and then I say and if your if your boss has a problem I'll call your boss because all invite him to and you know what he's not GonNa and then also you'll try and get a job in the meantime as your own age exactly on on this Bachelor Party. You know what it was. It was like a majority of the guys are married. I I was the last guy to Mike Group to get married and got married at four. I think Yeah I was forty and because my whole life my dad would look at me. Says if you've ever get married I'll kill you. I watched it and then sure enough when my dad was sick. He's like I haven't been married yet. And you looked at the most wonderful wife in the world awesome. He looks looks at me and he says please do not care get married because of me and within I think it was a few months. We got engaged in you know planned a wedding all well. Let's let's put it this way if your wife. Let's go on a seventeen day bachelor party. She's at twelve. Oh yeah she's as long as I get an eighteen day Bachelorette. Yeah Yeah you. You coached right last two years your last two years. I coached on the East Coast Hockey League. How was that man? That's nice. I mean that's pretty good to get into into that with the right for what you had to do to get to become a pro hockey player to then coach. That does show. You know what you're doing. One of one of the things that I always wanted is is in my in. My whole hockey career was if in fact the coaching opportunity came. And I've always always told that a lot of player little teammates and coaches. What you said you'd be great as a coach or even management and I had said you know how guys are today. It's about where you've played. He's not a hockey guys. So a lot of those say like the last three years I probably played longer than planned just so I could get more time in the game so when it comes down to me trying to teach a kid or explain to a kid or get into his head to get him on the right path. They can't pull the you know what you know. You never played in the American league. You never played in the national. The Shit goes on as we all know. We said to our own coaches but not to their face obviously but It's it's it I wanted. That is in my background to where he had some type of uniqueness and it all worked out you know how who the head coach my deep partner Danny tetreault. I mean you talk about. Oh Two guys that are partnership together as a coaching staff was unbelievable. It really was amazing. He was my partner he's he's he's a purebred. Hockey Guy Western liter We had a really really good time and I will tell you this. Dan tetreault has the hardest hardest job in all pro hockey. You're sitting in an island in rapid city. Okay we're the only team that doesn't fly. Are Shortest frustrates eleven hours. Oh Aw and last year we lost our affiliation. Halfway through the summer we had fourteen guys onto week contracts before so that means number one we just lost fourteen fourteen guys that are the majority of them rookies. anyways with Minnesota in Minnesota was unbelievable organization. Those guys Iowa and everything awesome. Toss the understood. Did our situation and we lose that affiliation so now we have to go get players individually now any player especially today. Hey you know back in our day you didn't give a shit you want where you want and you got your opportunity if you had to make your Marcus a player once you get some options and you can get a little greedy and pick and choose so last year any player with any type of an option. They wouldn't even return our phone calls. I'd say a offered a guy thousand dollars right. Ah topnotch demand number one or two. We'll give you thousand week Baba I think I'll go to Orlando for six hundred or it must might think I'll go to South Carolina Charleston for two fifty. I mean just hypothetically because I think a lot of how much of a grind the travelers it is. It's a really behind the eight ball. It's worse than the Western Hockey League. I mean think about our shortest trips. Eleven hours it's twenty three hours. Our division was Allen Texas. That's twenty three hours depending on. Who's driving the boss? We had one bus driver named Craig. Natiq Greg Mesa. He likes to go his own route. Not Stop six times in like three three hours because you you just the way it was but you know here's a hit just to show you the kind of grinding. Why goto how you supposed to get players especially when you're in a division that's completely stacked loaded you have Boise Idaho's always a power was always Alan like two years eve Martin's the the most winningest in his coach and Minor League hockey histories coach? I think twenty two years or twenty three years now he's got eleven championships and the guy's a savage in grey ever got a look higher higher. I don't think he wants it. You know what he knows what he's doing coach making three four hundred exactly but not only that. He's in charge. He doesn't have some ticket marketing guy from office telling you what to do when the guy doesn't know anything about what I'm saying and there's a lot of that these days these guys the marketing ticket guys come into these. Organizations Musicians is presidents or whatever. They think they're hockey ops guys so they WANNA come into put two cents in and they have no idea that their number one causing pressure pressure for a coach. That's learning how to deal with these types of issues and number two. You're breaking up everything that is being built right just because they want to be in into the Shit so oh it's tough but this is a prime example last year you'd be proud. We lead all pro hockey with eighty-six fighting majors. Okay and when I say that it's every single guy putting in the effort. It was a very tight knit group. Okay a bunch of no name guys. We a couple guys like you. You know. Ten Year veterans have been grinded out in East Coast League. Riley was lousy okay. He's he's he's thirty something years old he's got a wife and kid and he's getting in the mix he's the Captain Garrett Klotz on old old heavy from the American legal you gotta remember okay. He was her heavy. Every Taylor Trunk Tyler crunch. The Junkyard Trunk Yard Dogs. Sweet all these guys put it was it was awesome they all contributed. And then you guys make out. We were were picked to finish the last. We were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Five days before the season was was over it suck we were holding on so tight but we played most of January and a Allah January February with nine four and five thirty. So here's well here's our one road trip. Goes we go from rapid city. The Eye Iowa rapid city South Dakota rats all its selfless beautiful. Place Vera. GAYS WANNA go. nope trust me. It's a great place to go and visit summertime. Beautiful people are amazing. The city's awesome but we go from Rapid City to Toledo which is twenty something hours Toledo to Fort Wayne Fort Wayne to Kansas City. Kansas City the Cincinnati Cincinnati back during the polar vortex. Might I add and we wait way. We don't have a generator that works on the bus or most chipper in pitch black steinar seen our own breath. It was amazing. That's just pure love the game but yeah but I mean you get a little crazy with three carbon monoxide leaks on the boss fifteen fifteen fifteen guys at carbon monoxide. I poisoned. She was crazy. Yeah but the best is every day we would come into the office. We'd have the song burn on by Randy Newman on the on the radio. That was the song that was played in the beginning in a major league. Red Maroon Rag. Gosh just embraced it. Yeah I mean it wears on you like Tennessee and I look at each other like like what the fuck are we doing fuck. It was unbelievable job. I have a job. ooh statue as soon as a player got slump. Stick it into his his his stolen. The slump would end and Do Bartender Joe Boonies refill. These guys need to get all mad at all. I love it I love it. I had so many people come up. Yeah I get you reference. Keep doing offer. Everything's a movie doing media fucking raped by the we all know when I first started the podcast and I kind of like threw me off guard on my what what was that. What was the voice? You just did it. And what what are you talking about how you just know. It's different voices for different characters. Oh yes because all people sue Chiklis characters probably all right. Let's get a little bit everything though I mean this. This should this this first of all. It's an absolute honor to be on this. But I'm happy for you guys because you guys. We all have tells away from a really talented. We're most likely known for but this is this is awesome. It's got a lot of good flavor to it. Some of the guys you had an here have been fantastic. The Kelly Chase. When I was one of these cases I got a Greek Kelly? Early Chase Kelly Chase while he's this guy but so Kelly were soaps obstinate a hockey school in Saskatoon for a few summers. And I when I tell you we'd wake up seven o'clock morning eat real quick order the rank or on the ice for six hours we go back to the hotel take a nap. Go to the gym for two hours because both of us were still playing at the time and I mean go through a legit grinding workout. Go home aw shower change. Go to the restaurant and we would close Hudson's and saskatoon down every single night okay Kokin clams use right which is is delicious dry ribs. And he's a beer. It's our version of course late. Okay Okay and then just clamato in there. But I know it's very manly. I would put coconut way ahead. Of course blows it away blows away as long as we start. It's awesome I I I got coyotes bringing it through the border for mealtime stack of the deal. So but what's awesome is the what's awesome is at third or fourth day soaps that I couldn't even skater because we had so much sodium in our joints from the CL- Amato and we would hit repeat every day we change it up a little bit. We'd go to the we go to the the the concert venue they got down there on this one St. We saw Nazareth one night. We saw them. He was just awesome. You know and I got another great story about that. We're GONNA get there was a good the time so we were there. We go for two weeks so it's like Thursday night and we're just at the end of two weeks. I mean we're dying okay. We're dying and we're dragging it. We finally threw in the towel. And we left Hudson's at like eight o'clock and sure enough. We go to the hotel and I look. Can I just see this tough looking guy. Standing There Mike Zephyr. I can Kelly Chase Yup soaps. Hey chaser the chaser turns out. I'll fucking sparkin. Hey guys what's what are you doing in town. He's like up just they. Were in town for something. I think in Wendel Clark read read. The retired as jury dated June blades. Or something now somewhere will respond. He's not from kindersley he's from Maybe melford wherever his his hometown was the honored him and it was pretty cool so he was in town for that so sure enough he goes. Well I'm GonNa go through stuff upstairs. Meet down here in fifteen minutes. We didn't even have a chance to Sarah. We just he tells you to do it. And I'm doing what I'm saying like I grew up watching this guy. Comes Chicago Stadium all time. It was awesome. Sure enough recode. Hudson's is in. It's it's packed and it's you know the bars in the middle so it's just a sea of people. Obviously people see Sopo there and they see Kelly Chase and me sitting there the a Horse Jackie. I'm like the little guy sitting right so sure enough. We're we're getting into a pretty serious talk. On views of the game today chaser Israelites against it gets pretty heated up. If you questions about the honor of the game stuff in new the codes going out the window and that bothers them so we're sitting there and and he's getting heated up and he and he kept going and he's like you know the game doesn't owe anybody anything in all the game doesn't only and I'm sitting there and I feel the kind of splash. Hit my in. Its hitting him and he keeps turning around like this and there's this little I don't know what he was but he was he. He was Asian or something but he was a little guy and he's turning around happens again. I'm looking I'm kind of noticed. Some like the kids not drunk and he's not doing this so I don't understand how his beer would be splashing on chaser and you could see chaser. Getting I mean fears. Of course coming out of the does hold on while while this is Kelly cheese really getting mad here. This is probably what he was looking like on the on the blue. When he was about the fight weaned van door open eighth? I mean it was. It was unbelievable so upset and there and he's just fucking fuming and I'm try Mike. I looked at the kid I'm like. Hey can you kinda give a little bit more space. I get my friend wet and he looked at me like I was not sure enough keeps going on and it stops and then it starts again and I'm looking. I'm like what what is going on. We are sitting right underneath a piece of duct work for the air conditioning system. And I mean it's fuming in the place and it was dripping and it was hitting chaser. It wasn't this guy with the beer so I'm sitting there and now I figured it out and they just let it go. I go he chaser. I said I don't want to start problems in here. I said but I think they're doing the fuck with you and he fucking turn around and there's nobody there and you realize it you were dying like this was is a great moment just like maybe ten years ago I probably would not told him that. See what you would do. I sit back and like you know you. Don't get to see Kelly Chase fighting anymore. We'll be better than seeing them in a great. It was like when we when we when I had the bar. We're tired of getting sensitive to come down and I was like well what do you do pre op at a level. And I'm like you know what what would it take to get Ralph Macho and William Zappa in the bar completely. Not Knowing what's about to happen and we raised like five hundred thousand dollars cash amongst all the guys belong. Put It on the bar take the sheet off it and see you to fight. The winner gets the money how I believe. What would that be like? It'd be nuts. He Scranton's Lutts over here. Look at this guy. He's getting horny off writing stories. We're we're going to get another great sets. Could you guys have raised five hundred between them. No absolutely guys would get divorced. I but you never know guys might do. It might be worth getting divorced to see something like content younger sponsor a youtube net up. You know I want to go back to the. Yeah he he he was going to go into something else there and I and so we're in saskatoon at Hudson's one night and you know we're in there and it's just me insults couple of guys from This local Saskatchewan gays greatest guys in the world. It would help at the camp and Sure enough you know soaps comes back. It's like it's like he's a female. You know what I mean local kid and the people there just really humble people and Some guy must not elect picked the type of attention that soaps getting at the bar and we all know one of the nicest human beings I've ever met you know so we're sitting there and this guy could just get fucking heated up so sure enough. We go outside bars closed in the guys you sitting there and I'm like we got a problem with this guy here. He's disguise looking looking for something and I said Hey man you know your rights. And he's awake. Goes fucking SOPA. Fuck Him and Mike. Or maybe soaps talkers girlfriends from him in highschool or song and I was like something so sure enough. I'm like well. What did he do? Any guy couldn't give me a straight answer us just one of these local guys. Some wants to make himself from and I'm just sitting on like listen man. There's no chance at this is gonNA happen. I said first of all they're six of us and there's one a you the second. Did you touch them. I'm GONNA kill you. You're not because he's not getting trouble for this. Nobody knows who I am right. Some Yankee schedule on I mean who knows so. I'm sitting there trying to talk. Common social soaps canisius going on sweet comes over. The course of the matter is like fucking Gopal Fuck Immune you right now. I fuck can watch you right now and I'm sitting. I'm like I'm looking around like. Is this a joke. Someone recording this on camera or something you know so solicit man. What are you fucking? Tell me what the problem is here. Let's let's talk about this Laci and sure enough like five minutes to this. Common Sense talk was going on in his. You know he was flared up like this. He just this deflated and he goes. I just want to hang out with you guys all right and I just started dying laughing. It was unbelievable. I okay right this shit. It was unbelievable. I tell you handled it. It was unbelievable. Did you guys is just good old home it. It was unbelievable. I want to go back to the firemen. The dilemma has told the lemon heads. Is it true that they will. You were inspired as an infant. They weren't Bible. He was goes by my dad. Okay Yeah so when my dad if you saw baby picture my dad his head was kind of weird shape and he had this ear smile and in my GRANDPA Very brilliant man u He came up the name. Lemon heck is kid. LIKIAT LEMON head. While he wasn't block Bolat people would think that because I got the blonde hair and dark hair Ted. The mustache till about two thousand ten five Really Dark Skin Kinda guy so you've never really put the two and two together right right. Yeah he was limited. This guy awesome some of these stories and just look and I see these real Gucci. She sues with under armour socks in. My wife bought me the shoes shoes to work. She worked at Nordstrom's for twenty seven years so she'd be at the rack. WHO's a manager at the rack for a while? So I get I think these were forty dollars. I didn't even realize we're Gucci till about two months ago I stepped in dog shit with them and sure enough like dogs. She was cleaning them and I looked and I see Guccione. Did you buy me fucking Gucci Shoes. I don't wear Gucci Shoes. You know can you tell while the Jesus all over. I don't think Nikki Black Online. Yeah I didn't even know what they were thought. The Kennel Club wear back in the day. That's a good one to wanNA WANNA copy. Dude thank you very much. We got another guy guy coming in but we can talk to this guy. Ra An rn. Dollars should have their own little He played Taber and Cuckoo's nest. I had look up Christopher Lloyd. Yeah he was good good dude. I skated with him a lot in that last blackout. WE'RE GONNA ask my dad when my dad was sick and dying. I would wake-up stay at the hospital until about six o'clock in the morning and then I'd be doing tests and stuff during the day but jammers just gotten gotten a job with the blackhawks. Doing television needed. We're stay so he'd come back and sure enough. We get about an hour to sit and watch get updated on hockey and and he was there a majority of the time I was sick and dying. He was a righteous period of time was good. Thank you buddy. Let's finally meet advertising sizes and and big thanks to null for are coming on like you said there's me and him we. We kind of had a kinship. There I don't know if it was the movie. We still quote movies back and forth on twitter. Ever since we met. But he's a true character of the game and like say what he does. I mean he could be hidden fucking count as money every day and he's riding these bosses and grind and trying to help guys that have become the best players. They can't so I again it's kind of character is kinda character he has Pina coladas so. I thought you're going to Shea can be sitting sipping Pina coladas on a beach somewhere because boys. That's exactly where I would be. I'm a Miami Vice Guy. I would be COLETTA's. I got automated voice today. Lolo okay. She old baked Jeevan upon update far upon hockey update forest. Brother I do. I do We were actually launching a website for the pond. Hockey term in a lot of people have been asking where they can find information so that will be Barstool Pawn hockey dot com. You can find the information there. And we also have some registration INFO The New Hampshire Tournament will open registration for that will open December sixteenth at noon eastern time. Andy Toronto Tournament Registration for that will open December Eighteenth at twelve pm eastern eastern time and you can register for both lows again on parcel hockey dot com. Hey did I did we mention that. We're GONNA do the thing at Boston pizza yet. The party yeah we will we will. It'll be at Boston pizza's well we're going to do the Friday night bash and I'm telling you guys the the the culture this is getting a little excited to get back on my blades is. I'm going to throw the blades on when I'm there. Just in all these fuckers. Who Chair on twitter? Like Oh this is what this show you guys. What a washed up any Doodoo you on rollerblades blades every four fucking seconds and then when you try to get fancy boobs far speaking of that you guys commercial came out of you guys behind the scenes doing in your skills competition and with the new Amsterdam Balk that we filmed out in la? Some good stuff there some good stuff in that commercial I know already I well. We kind of glanced over and I was GonNa say you made me feel like I was being Harto early on. I really feel that that day due the timeout. Then they were trying to get the shot right so they were playing around with and stuff and I get that it went long. Yeah there was a few times where I thought I could have a better take. And I thought overall the production would've looked better. I care about my work. You got a little bit frustrated there and you thought I was being a bit of a hard. Oh when I don't I thought you were being exactly how you are in many aspects of life where it's like you're a perfectionist but dude like seven takes. Yeah Yeah you get it all right. Good job I'll do that one one to over thirty nine fucking brand new one more. It was like roll. Like you'd have to remember that a lot. Well he's no no no no no no no you have to remember. It's not nasty. Does Muskoka par to it. It was you like really like not realizing it's like I do. Just get it done. It's a commercial. I think that you think that I was the one making a goal longer than than it was. I get that I added another twenty minutes to it but buddy they had to figure out the fuck and shot like like they. They couldn't get the shot I had. I had to be in the weird position and I had to like then they were like changing shit. And Mike like buddy come on. I'm not fully to blame for this and then I think we're on a clock and we gotta finish. What are other subjects? We can fight about this later on you busy back. The people are GonNa WanNa hear the court of public opinion right or are sides of it turned out great. We had a good time and it was a long fucking day and then we were recorded. Boarded a podcast. Check out until eight in the morning and then I went and got a kill blatant. I went to the Calgary stampede for four days and got about eight more. But WHO's counting. Who's fucking counting where I should have got player of the week from the NHL Midsummer? First second and third star. I I put so much fucking anthrax up. NHL The wacker of the week every year at the most skills in the NHL alumni included walk. Aw I have some assists in there too. 'cause I snapped the puck around. Boys Fuck all right the fuck are we talking all Ratto Auto Avalanche Stud Rookie Defenseman Kill Mkhize Day to day with a UBF. Get hurt Saturday in Boston. But his teammate fell defenseman Nikita Zadora has been like the terminator any of defense can all did not comply his out of action. Left and right Monday night. Magic Chuck went. They hit him apparently deemed himself up. He finished game but he didn't play Tuesday verse. Arizona Donna He'd crunched Montreal. Yes Berry Cockney Ame into the boards last week in the young spell ended very awkwardly. He did a read rotschild style. Full flip ended up can cost the poor. The Guy Montreal. There's some of the media was saying he slew for them and they wrote some fucking shitty cons but I mean just looked like a hot hit with an unfortunate ending unfortunately and then he buried Austin Zanuck back in October design kind of pivoted soul is ugly result. That was the one way Luci. Pop them in the Mug afterwards This guy's game he's He's second knocking people out left all right. Here's why when some media bark up about some of these hits and they're like Oh slew foot. You never fucking played you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. What happened there? He he got him and he's so powerful where when he hit him against the wall with his shoulders his his hit your sometimes. Your shoulder pads will just stick so then then then then you kind of fucking going over tea kettle that was not a fucking slew foot. Okay listen dude. A door is a type of defenseman. Where if I you know maybe in the American league because I I never really got to play as much in the NHL? where I would be going after him every game and there be a fucking dual going on? That was my matchup right there. The guy who wants to bully holy my small forwards. I'm going to make him feel so fucking insecure. But I tell you what I love his game I as a guy on ener team I fucking hate his guts but if our team were to sign them I'd be the first guy to call them and say thank fucking Lord. I really liked this guy man. I know that he's got a he early on. He's been physical and he's been digging up some guys and then people weren't crazy about the fact that he wouldn't fight Luchik with which. I was a little irritated that I wish. I wish you would have dropped him with Lucia her but I tell you what man this guy. This guy's a fucking Gamer and he's a pain in the ASS guy. You WanNa not perfectly said you hate you hate you hate to root against them. Colorado guys love having them on there. I'm telling you I'm not giving a bad for the Dell but I'm also saying that was not a fucking sue foot now. I watched it twenty times James. I did not say anything. A slew for it. Because it's him. You're just looking to find things that you could say would possibly be an illegal enemy number one orange. The guy the guy plays hard. He plays dirty That's what the that as much as people WANNA get rid of it that will always help in the NHL a good hard dirty dirty hockey player. I'm that sounds crazy. Sounds crazy for dirty player. He's nasty hockey. That's life. Put Him into the category of these almost most air where he's never going to get the benefit of the doubt and that was actually why people were trying to say it was a slew foot. Certain guys are in that realm forever as you just mentioned did you did mention my. She actually did you guys either. The great little clip of him Monday night a little nine year old girls show fee A. ps she absolutely crushed both anthem. Anthem's in Ma Auto Monday eight. He went over and gave a little handshake went viral. But it was pretty funny to see you know Macci. Everyone went out of his way to give the girl props. I thought it was a man I didn't. I didn't hear the anthem. But sometimes when these little girls come out and they belt out the anthem and then they carry those notes and Shit. This may come as a shock. You guys I'll get teary eyed on. The bench needs to find a little tiny are she must have been six years old. Asian Girl Sang it for the La Kings. They add after noon game recently. It was just randomly on my living room. My Wife's who is this gonNA solve is a six year old so those things are great when you see Quickly Kely to about the Bruins that clip that everyone got a kick out of two CA smashing his stick. I got the back story on that. Oh yeah that I wonder right away so when I see so what what I saw was The team pile up and it almost looked like a a group of guys beat them in rebound but you could tell the next one blue line and the celebration was way too big for it to be rebound and so i. I figured I figured I'd ask I'd ask around. They were finishing practice with three on three in the neutral zone which is totally skill. Work Fun Way to end it and and I guess they were team they were getting pounded is letting in everything will right before What's his name? What's the coach's name? Jesus Christ accounted for more cassidy. Blew the whistle to right. Before he blew the whistle to end the practice to Christine. They sniped went in for no reason whatsoever. They just just went bananas. A crazy sell after getting worked and to just turned around so he was the losing goal but his team score at the last second decided this rate and started Tomahawk walking his stick so I guess it was him joking around. He gave a little selley after two. It was hilarious and the video but yeah I think some people took it serious when I watched it over. I'm like no this guy's just on and around I was reading all what's going on. I'm like fucking joke. And you can't see the obstacles to trade bloc one act if anyone actually said the what's going on here after seeing the team jump around there the stupidest person I've ever talked that people really thought something was wrong. People thought it was a slew. For Oh wait I even sell. I believe it and there was a goalie smashing stick and the entire his own team celebrating laughing. And you think something's wrong. You're a moron. Yeah I I don't know People Watch Gotcha close and there was actually another tweet. I I don't even know centered I I would name it anyways. But they'll like this is this is disgusting like he's breaking Stich like that meanwhile plays in the. Ah The National Women's Hockey League after by their own sticks. It's like you fucking serious. I mean not not do it. The woman I mean it does suck that the pave their own sticks but like that has fuck it absolutely nothing to do. We're talking about here to to drag that and it's like come on you know. There's there's a couple other chaotic situations I wanted to ask you guys about and are if you had one stink while I was GonNa talk of Andrikienon the sharks in that hand Watson incident that was that was all time hockey right there. And that's the type of passion not I don't mind CNN today's NHL. And I know some people don't like the fighting and all that type of shit but I loved that passion so of Andrew. CAIN was getting into it with us and then of anarchy and started unloading on them and Watson jumped in for him us and I I respect the fuck it of Watson. got a couple of good shots in obviously evanger Kane stood in their. If you see a teammate getting pounded you jump in. It doesn't matter I. I've never played with the Vander Kane. I don't know what type of teammate. He is. All all I know is about what I've heard. But he's another guy like he comes to fuck complain. He's got a chip on his shoulder and he he's fairly consistent with his offense. He's a he's a solid all at fucking player man. He's a Gamer. I saw that clip. I think there was a pitcher some. I'll send it to you. Bid Someone's like that is the reverse sixty nine that business because Gideon. I was thinking the same thing. Because at the end of the clip it was like the weirdest position. I think what's was face down the ice. Yeah Banner Cain was was the I was on his on his mouth. That would be a reverse sixty looking at the picture thinking that that was so fun for happened right after that I wanted talk about the Calgary flames briefly. I think they deserve a little credit. We didn't really dive into them. Much after Jeff Ward is Jeff Ward. We actually north. Gao off gone. Were listen I guess. Let me start off by saying I think there's a strong correlation to the fact that it pink Whitney landed in Calgary Alberta and all of a sudden the team started playing better but there may be other reasons and I will lift the list. Those office well their power play since since the new coach took over and has been on flag. Oh okay I don't know if it was just for our game but they've seemed to have put their lines at a bit of a blender and spread it out like last night amy Jo. Johnny Gujral was playing on the right side and I think Milan Lucci was on the left. So all of a sudden Lindholm centering his own line. They got that Ryan Kid who he is a sneaky really good player to very good two way player so all of a sudden their offense is is balanced out and even scorn some goals. I think they got twenty four in their last six games. Certain all of a sudden the offense is there another thing before all this coaching changes. Well that was factoring into the slide. Is You know they. They had a dead brody. Go down and that was a scary incident. You know things weren't things. Were kind of starting to get bad. And then they got even worse after that. He's a solid defense man. WHO's Zien up a lot of clock? Well great to see him back out there he was fucking playing pretty pretty solid last night as a you know giving us crosschecks in front of the net Balon Lucia which he scored a goal okay. He's looking good. I know that there's now he's got three here. You want you want to take off often oilers fan here. I'M GONNA. I'm GonNa be something right here. Meal all three goals in his last four games. James Neal with one this past ten who has last fifteen. Okay so I know off the hop and it probably suck for lose to hear about all this fucking bullshit because you Lucia is bringing right now. Exactly what he needs to bring in order for people to be like you know what I'm okay with the sky being here well liked in the locker room. He's a fucking beauty and and now he's he's he's starting to gain a little a bit of confidence. The whole story line is kind of washed away and I think he's got a little bit of confidence. Back people hammered me on Faulk in line about me saying saying that. AFC ends up getting fifteen to twenty goals like you know. I think that what the other elements that he brings to the team all of a sudden. That's not necessarily a terrible rebel trade. Even if Neil ends up with forty people might say he wouldn't have had success in Calgary so I mean I would love for him to get twenty just so I could go back and and fucking tag old peixe exposed because listen I get that I. I'm a little more sympathetic to these guys. And and and sometimes you know. I'm a bit of a softy. I want all all these guys to do. Well but he's he's starting to bring it another guy that people hate. That's fucking looked really good ZAC Rinaldo. Just call up from the minors. He he has been laying some mean at sea had one in the La game. And that's why CLIFFE's fought him when the when the girls were on the ice when the ice girls on he's got two goals was an assistant five games. He looked at one and one against the coyotes last night he got him going with the turnover at the Blue Line. To start things off. Monaghan has actually been on fire in his last four games and he had a sniper. Yeah this is. It's I mean it's it's not that surprising I mean going into of the year you talked about what the winning the West last year and or the regular season right and then looking at like who is coming back. I mean this was Kinda was a matter of time to. They've figured it out. Maybe maybe they really didn't like playing for Peter's they're happy with ward. I think that's kind of a what's going around a little bit and this is all with dro really kind of having an off off year by Weighs Thirty Three Games at twenty four points But for him you know you've you've you've become accustomed to him dominating way more than he has but still it's It's a team. That has a ton of skill. And I'm not surprised to see them. Pick it up and try to figure it out and you WANNA piss off owners fans not just with that. That's that you read about Lujan Neil Biswa. Oh Calgary's two points behind them for the division lead corral. All of a sudden after work I'll be was going through and what you were doing it. That Pacific's wide open. No doubt do Matica chuck with that between the leg shot. That's becoming his thing. He got a couple of the other night he didn't score but it's such an impressive moved to make he's like obviously been working on it a ton Sunday Sunday night Mike. Kaufman had his first game against Eric House and since the both of them would jettison from Ottawa. Last year Carlson was injured last Jedi. Ms Both Games versus Florida and of course prided riots at trade. There are some very nasty allegations in court about online harassment and cyberbullying the case was ultimately dismissed. But bad blood wasn't Hoffman said before the game quote I have been thinking about this game for a long time. It is a pot of hockey During the game he grabbed them by. I'm sorry did grab calls by the scruff of the neck. He kinda yanked him around around. Didn't look like Dawson and want any piece of it. After the Game Hoffman said he actually played tonight and I asked if he wanted to go and obviously he did not I chased around for the entire shift kept asking and asking. He wouldn't he kept saying I am not fighting you so I don't know if this is GonNa keep going forward obviously clearly Chelsea's not a fighter. I I don't know if it's ever going to happen did. Did you happen to see that little clip of him. He just kind of throw them ship them a bit. But it's click awesome. Doesn't want to fight as before. I'm not GonNa talk about the office situation. Should I think it's honorable that if you know if Carlson thought that you know he was he was slighted in all that nasty stuff went on. That Hoffman. was like all right if you think all that happened all answer the bell. If you WANNA try to fuck a inflict pain on me because what I've done to you so I I ah over with arrest I guess right yeah yes to players calling each other one player calling like A. We don't know the true story and remember over. Kaufman may have a different opinion on everything that happens. There was one side of the story that came out. We don't exactly like I said the case was dismissed so so obviously the court didn't feel the need to go on There was a big story here in the Boston area on Monday Pete Frady's the patient who helped boost the ice bucket challenge to global prominence. He died on Monday at thirty four We want to send our condolences to his family and friends which I numerous here in the Boston area. He was such a huge beloved presence. I hear combustible helped raise over two hundred million dollars LS Research I never met Pete personally but we had a pretty fun. Twitter relationship on top of the bruins joins in movies over the last few years so I'll miss having a little goofy little chats. It's just funny. Because you know the guy he he couldn't talk and realize but on twitter you can have conversations with him which which is always pretty cool and I. I was pretty bummed out to see him go with. I'm not sure. Did you ever get a chance to meet Pete. I I didn't but I know a lot of people know what a what an amazing legacy legacy I mean. Two hundred million dollars and that's Funky and and it you couldn't you couldn't even ask for. There's no amount. Ah that adds up to what's needed because that's the most horrific disease the just the thought of your your brain being fine and you being totally with it. Your Body just shutting down around you is so horrifying in the way that that kid fought it and his family and I know that Barstool released an awesome video of what Dave Port always done with with with free with Pete Fridays in his family. And it's been a pretty great relationship so that is somebody. I tweeted out some day. Let's hope and pray. There is a cure to that horrific disease Aziz and his name will be mentioned within the first sentence of talking about it. That's a fact. Because he did so much and God bless him and I also. He was an uh-huh g.. Chocolates Fan. I I when I was. I know that old tweet I found all right. You see that yeah I did. I did it was. He was on with us from day. One literally when we when you tweeted out we're kicking off soon when he replied can't wait and I remember I sent him a couple of links. We first started. We were still like I always say soundcloud rappers like Wayne and got style and he was with us from the get go man and I in a like. We'll all Miss Pete by his legacy is forever man what that guy did. He's a legend test. So again our deepest condolences to his his family as friends at his brother. Andrew as well the last now going to shift gears over to the old gambling corner but I want to let you know that. The boys that spitting check. Let's have a new home for sports betting this year and you need to check out bet. MGM SPORTS WHAT'S UP IN NEW JERSEY. The same guys that bring you the world's most spectacular casino resorts in top notch. Entertainment have a new sports betting APP IN NEW JERSEY. 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The I didn't even use his wits Jerry Springer one but I mean I got it on the shelf I guess so. You WanNa stay found on that front. That's from the book. The game by the way somebody said on twitter some guys strokes. I remember somebody telling me all about it just check. It may work. I'm going to try it still with the water one was batting a thousand. So how many how many girls have you narrowed it down to and when is your I ain't GonNa. I already got the first one out of the way. Okay okay eight did what did she look like the photos absolutely. Yeah Wow okay okay is it. Is it rude to to say like how was she like big off author Minister Cameras. Can we use a number scales that rude. I don't think so I she. She was very with all the whole podcast thing. So she's very cool with all this so I said that she can review me and she said she's willing to roast me too so I think it's fair if we do a number on we half to get her on where'd you go eat? We went to a place called Mexico in flat iron. Learn Great Mexican joint. I like you know Margaritas for weight. I paid monoploy how much I was it it was. I don't remember. We hit a bunch of different lots member. It was a lot of different spots and I got. I could tell early on that. I wasn't going to try to split it and I got APPs I got put put six hundred but it was a ton of fun Radio Margarita on nine hundred forty two please No way double released yet. Yeah yea hit the floor room getting fear feet massage. You're like Yes yes. Yes yes all the shopping bags how how much you spent the whole night. I over three hundred. No I was GONNA say probably to fifty which is a huge dent in the ship for me but how about this. How about this as a Christmas gifts? I want to cover the first one. Okay Yeah I got I got the first lie with GONNA get the next one so make sure you bring her a nice steak house okay. Perfect and I was talking with our I was talking to one girl and she looked. 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'cause I just treated for four okay or if let's say go for a meal and then we go to the movies after pick up the movie ticket. Okay I just dropped one hundred fifty on dinner. You can pick up the twenty thirty bucks a cost to go to the movie. Okay is that fair is like Hey I'll get dinner dinner where we go after that you get and then he takes her club. He's like yeah. So the minimums okay. I got some other girls. Come meet us you know with all the fuck you with Awed taking the upside Biz or no I was just gonNA ask for more. Ask him more questions about her. Like the feeling you was a kiss at the end of the night like tug you off. It went really well at first. I was really spooked. 'cause she told me she said I have plans to meet with my friends at Tau. Which is a nightmare? Oh Shit that's too and and I was like Oh fuck either I'm gonNA. I don't know if I'm invited this. I think she was kind of lighting a fire under my ass or she was like you know this is the backup plan so I was. I was like on the mound. Like okay. I really you gotTA bring it. And then she ended up bailing on the Tau thing so it it went. It went while I was going to say she's okay. I'm going to rinse you for a two hundred dollar dinner and then I'm GonNa go. Fuck this club promoter. WHO's getting models? After this. I would have got plenty of back to Denver Day at least so far though hinges work and fly if nothing else you get you get some dates anyways right. Oh yeah these girls. The girls are actually unbelievable. And it's it's been nothing but good stuff so the fact that people hate this segment makes me WanNa do it. Maybe twice in episode and also awesome that we are getting some love for it so thanks for coming on a good luck in your next one and I'll see you at the Christmas party and I'll have that to fifty four counterfeit bills Van van Millea. Just don't wait for it. Hold hold your breath. But there's you mentioned Taken taken out to the movies. I get a recommendation. I went to the Boston. Premiere of uncut gems the other tonight. The New Adam Sandler movie all. I thought it was a foreskin movie. I was waiting for that. Everybody in this system made the same joke on twitter at the biography picture. I actually was pretty really cool. It was one of my one of my listeners. Who Fears he's actually? We've been getting tickets for each other. He's one of your listeners. One of my father was I meant to say I think he. Actually we've been going back and forth before the podcast even started. He hooked me up with a Pearl Jam ticket years ago. I rebound for him while he had a couple of tickets for the movie premiere the night and it was. Actually Adam Sandler in cagey were in the house. They introduced the movie beforehand So it sandler walk by reached exam and got a little fist. Bump from Adam sandlers pretty denies all fucked me. I'm always horn. 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Should you've got one go first off. No one should ever freak out at ever when the Golden Globes do not nominate or nominate somebody there the Hollywood foreign press of well known for being on the take If if you can bribe them easily they have kind of a ridiculous track record over the years. They actually gave him to watch. What actress Impedes Isadora about twenty? Five years ago. Her husband produced the movie and basically basically he bribed the bunch of people so they gave her an would They're fun to watch and I don't know if they're true barometer of what's going to happen the Oscars so yeah if your favorite actress or actor. Aw I know they made a big deal that what there were no women directors nominated but again I wouldn't put too much stock in it with the Golden Globes the Golden Globes as a little less stuffy though. Isn't it good. Yeah it's much less. They all get buckled at the APP. So that's what's cool about the fact that there's all that bribing going on kind of sucks because then it would be if it it wasn't bullshit and it was that Shit was real and then they had the fun aspect where everyone's getting juiced. That would be way better than the Academy Awards get yours is so fucking stuffing Out Sucks yeah they they they can be a little stuffy but in their partisan stuff as well but not not bribery. Like from what. I've read again. I I know. But that caveat adult there there's been many allegations over the years. So if you're actor a move your showed in get nominated for the Globes I. I wouldn't really really laura any sleep over it. What's I gotTA crush her? Royal Korea. What you make of that gets lost either scrap? who gets fed them? But you gotTA credit. Ill is troubling that left. He threw either. Yeah he can save the. He's at the whole team. was going no from the Benson good for him credit. Yeah he's a little guy you mean gets. He's a tough bass that he showed up man like you said. He got his lunch fed to them. But you can only you can credit a guy for showing up a Lotta guys don't he. Did I love gets you but I fucking love that move by healers stuff. I'm glad nobody got hurt. Yeah it's all everybody had fun can move along and speak in a move along any final not boys. I think we can just what about rap up here going awhile. I gotta ask you guys what's going on with the New England patriots. They cheat again boys. I don't I don't know enough about this story I read into I I I think I know a little bit. Basically it was a documentary. Recruiter had nothing to do with the scouting team. They did have a camera set up on the sidelines for eight minutes But they had nothing to do with football operations now. If you're the Patriots should you maybe be careful if you have a documentary. Crew going another stadium about recording that maybe you know people are going to be looking. Yeah but at the same time. 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143: Which Players Should Have Gone Back to School w/ Rob Dauster

Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

1:03:32 hr | 1 year ago

143: Which Players Should Have Gone Back to School w/ Rob Dauster

"The. I welcome back to another edition of the good and plenty podcast. Excuse me. We're doing this early in the morning on a Tuesday morning and pleased to welcome back robbed Oster. Not of NBC Sports Anymore Rob was actually laid off yesterday, which is Yes why he's got the side higher rob with the Hashtag behind him. Very very creative, they're Robert and. I volunteer I'd like to say how sorry I am for your you know. The loss of of your job. But you're doing okay doing okay. You've got a wife and two kids There's more to life than your job. You know that and I I WANNA play a couple of things for you just to get you going for the for the PODCAST here. So we'll kind of get going here. Get a little bit higher. In the morning but I the tiger to get you going you know. I needed to say that I started drinking pretty early last night. So you gotta get motivated here like am motivate I'm fired up Jeff. You got understand. So here's the thing in the way that I'm kind of going into this right like I was. I felt like I, kind of capped out what I could be an NBC sports and maybe this is GonNa be behind the scenes a little bit a little inside baseball but I really do feel like I capped out where I could have gone at NBC. Sports covering college, basketball because. Let's just be honest. They don't really have any incentive financially to invest in the coverage college basketball they don't have any team contracts you. Know everything that they do was more geared towards baseball or hockey or the NBA or the Premier League or golf because NBC owns the golf channel or things like that like Nascar they don't really have any reason to invest in anything that has to do with college sports. So I kind of was at the top of work could ever go with that company and I got a a severance not going to be hurting. Immediately I need to get a job money to find a place for the long term. But in the immediate future I have time to go out and find something that maybe fits what i WanNa do a little bit better. So I'm looking at this as a blessing and I had a decade at. NBC. It was great I. Think we did some really good work amid a lot of great people but I you know I'm ready for the next step and I'm fired up for it and I took last night like I. Said drank a few beers couples many maybe that's no different than. than an ordinary night in the dossier look the true is true. It's true but So you know bright and early morning I was glad at dry on this morning because forced me to get up out of bed make something happen put a sign up in the background. Everybody knows that they have to go hire me and I also printed out my resume and I also I had what he wants it. I could give Z. to I'm reading me hire me motivated. I'm versatile I'm talented and I'm free agent was taught. All right. So so given that given that I WANNA play a little game here. If ROB DASTA had pivot and go a different route. Right. In and get a different job like what skills do you really have here with what could you do? I'm trying to think you know. Could. There be a be a dance instructor like like the next career be for robbed Oster so I'll take. Definitely not a dance instructor, a workout Guy 'cause I've seen you workout guy not a workout guy. So honestly, like I've actually thought about this in this kind of my retirement goal is to open up. Like a smoke shop that also sells craft beers so like seriously did seriously, my dream is when I'm seventy years old to set up one of those like barbecue trucks on one road that you have to drive through to get to the beach every beach I down here did you that one road that you have to be able to get to all of the beaches I wanna be the I sets up that road side smoke stand where I'll making like. Poor in a making brisket, making ribs and making all that kind of stuff. So when I'm seventy years old and you're driving to the beach, you're GonNa see me right there to smoke in a whole bunch of meat and I know that sounds a little bit. Maybe, I could phrase that a little bit better but. It comes down to it. If it doesn't end up working out than you should come to dos spoke shop and get yourself some nice brisk. It's nice pork. So good barbecue some great graph beers because that's what I went when you're seventy doing that I'm going to be dead. Never over the age difference here, I'm gone by the time you're seventy. If I'm alive, just pushed me off a cliff because my wife would have to deal with me at eighty something. So that's another thirty five years of dealing with you. I can't believe he put you for this long. Yeah. Now, it would be I mean listen already I'm starting you know repeat myself a lot more You know it's it's not pretty well, how old are you now? Mid Thirties thirty, five, thirty, five, hundred, I, guess I guess mid Thirties and Yeah I mean listen And I mean this sincerely, like I'm not we don't want to get heavy in this podcast because that's not you and I but. You're as good as there is in the business for anybody listening for anybody watching. I know it's a tough time and not a lot of people are hiring today. But you'll find something you know that you work as hard as anybody. That's been in this business since I've gotten in and I've been in for a long time. Very Long Time you know your shit you know the game you right you're not shitty on. TV. You're not as good as as me 'cause I'm terrific. Actually I'm really shitty. I realized that now I realized how Shitty I am when I watch my daughter. And she's already better really good she she's really good at it and you're just kind of your there a medium you when she becomes famous, you're going to be a great agent for her yeah. I'm already trying I mean that that's the one thing you realize your kids are young right now but it's a one thing you realize as your kids get older and hit sixteen for instance, and you realize like we only have one she's GonNa began in two years and it's like. You would you know you do anything for your kids all along, but it's different when it when it hits you that Oh, my God in like two years, she's going to be gone and she might not come back like that's it. So the time just become so much more valuable. At this point that? You know doing things last night. And I'm sure it's not getting hurt all but for me you know we did a instagram live deal with trend in Waterford. Who decided and what we get into this minute I thought was one of the bigger decisions going back to Lsu because I thought he was gonna be honest and So we did this instagram live thing I'm just sitting there like thinking in the middle of it like how cool this is for me to be able to do this with her and again a girl that was never into sports until about a year ago and people like well, she's following in your footsteps I I don't think she is I mean we'll see maybe she will maybe she won't for now. All I'm looking at it. Is Time to bond with her and time to be able to spend with her because again, I didn't really have it for the first fifteen years with sports like she would go to Games I. Remember we brought her to a red sox fan which he was young and literally she sat in the in in the grandstands and her in my. Niece played cards the entire new. Now, I don't blame him 'cause baseball's boring shit to me now but but like they didn't watch one second of that game and a lot of the basketball games broader to she likes the environment, the atmosphere, all of that but she's never really taken an interest in the actual sport and that's really changed now were. Legitimately. She will do sit there and watch the entire NBA game an entire. NHL Game. So again, that part. Has Been. has been super cool for me to be able to spend that time she she gets older and you just again you realize. You don't get that. Now your kids are small and right now you're probably more like you know get older right like you you want them to get older so they can do some things on their own because your life right now and we can go into this right now, your life, not just the unemployment part of it is not easy as well. So here's the thing right? Like we're we're still not sending our kids back to school yet. We haven't decided if we're going to send him back to school back to daycare in the fall like we're kind of their crop. or my daughter is seventeen months old so We're we're kind of in that that period were trying to figure out what to do, and you know my wife has been like when she works she has to work. Beyond calls from basically nine to four and When I was working I what I did was basically doing time right I don't have to be on a phone call that time I don't have to start producing constant I don't have to write at a certain time. So I was watching the kids during the day taking care of him during the day, and then would work in the morning or late at night, and we kind of switch off that way but a week ago my wife went for a run in there was a storm drain. That was not completely flat with the road, but there had just been storm the night before. So all of the dirt had kind of pushed up against the storm drain. So she stepped on edge the storm drink is the same was the same color storm during didn't realize there was a lip Dr. gave out. Roles are ankle over she breaks. FIBIA. So Yeah I've been dealing with having two kids running around the house and a wife who is now we actually got her scooter. So now she's like. Scooter yeah. I took they offer for spitting addiction. It'll be fun Less than zero chance that I'm going to have a few IPA's at some point and then start writing a thing around the neighborhood and crashing and breaking it. So we'll see you bought a scooter. You bought it. You ranked we're borrowing it from friend but. We got we got her excluded. So now she's moving around the neighborhood and getting around the house and I'm telling you man if you WanNa have fun go out and get yourself one of those little meal scooters they go pretty fast We can take corners too. So I figured that out the hard way last night, how long are rehab when she able to actually be able to put weight on it and move around Another five weeks so Long. I have this member to two summers ago at this time But about this time. Yeah. It was like the first game in in old man softball I blew out my knee wore jeans to A. Gym In like day women that was like literally didn't that or no no. I started with shorts and then you just took off the brace because you didn't want to sit on the side having the because every coach in the country would have made. Funny. But you don't. Not only make fun of me, but you gotTa answer the same question over and over and over. So I think what did I end up wearing I think I ended up wearing sweatpants to the gym every day. And it's not a way with its cold. Yeah I think I ended up doing that but I remember walking around Augusta at night. Without the brace on and they they told me to to bring a Kane told me either. That's what it was. Yes. It was the cane. I'm probably came to the airport literally brought the king to the airport, Logan? So one assistant coach and was like item dot I can't I cannot. I'm not. I'm not using a King I won't get crucified by everybody. So but man that was. My I'll tell you what my niece still isn't right. Like most days is pretty good but it's still not right because I think I just honestly I think I really went to hold called getting old it is it is getting old no doubt about that. No doubt art. Let's let's. Let's move on. Now that we've figured out what you can do in your your post. Journalism career life which is run of food truck. But. Let's let's say. What if I pulled up to a two piece Jim in. Stock Selling Craft Beers. Should you kill on money or parachute support you by himself? Probably, just have to make sure I get Belvedere vodka or some are new Amsterdam. That's the thing minimum Magin. I think you should do it i. wonder if you could you probably need to need some sort of licensed to do it out there. Probably I don't know if you could just drive around selling truck that I don't know if that's necessarily think there'll be a peach next year I don't know if there's ever going to be sports over again to. I mean like this. Events I mean, there are like a I. Think Dinos. Ram. One in Indianapolis. I heard like a few weeks ago. He you know he loves making money. So one in Atlanta over the weekend I know Mike Williams. Is there it was at the Facility. Yeah. So I mean I guess there's some stuff there but art listened the deadline was yesterday for college players to withdraw from the NBA draft at least the double deadline was yesterday to retain their college eligibility. It was interesting. I. Mean I don't think it was like. Crazy. Eventful but. More guys than not decided to go back to school, which I thought was interesting because. So, much was made early about well easier going to be College Basketball College basketball and that's valid right? We don't know what it's GonNa look like this year at all and. I suggested pushing the deadline back. And I I was texting a little bit with. Dan Gavin about that and it sounded like there was some talk about doing it but ultimately, they decided to keep it. As of August third. I felt like if we're in it for the kids why not give them as much time as humanly possible it's not like frame McCaffrey if Luca Garza leaves whether it's today or a month from today, he's not going to go out and get a replacement for Likud Garcia. Eric Muslims not gonNa get if as JOE has laugh he didn't he's not going to go out and get somebody that can fill that spot There's nobody in the transfer portal. There are very few players out there a lot of the players that you would get at this point might be international kids will they can't even get over here. A lot of they're GONNA have trouble getting over here right now because a lot of embassies. Closed the reopening Can't fly over from some of the countries. So I suggested pushing it back but whatever whatever the case. What was your biggest surprise was was any get anything shock? You trend want for it for me surprise me I thought he was gonNA leave Lsu, keep his name in for the NBA draft but I think a lot of these kids getting back to what I was saying initially. They were scared about the college part of it. Yes. But I think they're equally if not more scared of it is they're going to be money for me overseas number one and is there going to be G. leak like 'cause most of the kids that are making the decision yesterday were chur fire. Mba guys that that's why they were still on the fence. So there guys that are maybe two ways. Maybe exhibit nine or whatever that's called. But you know they might have been planning the G. League next year and I'm telling you I don't know. They're going to be a G. leak like why would you if you're Adam silver even have a G. League to me you're GONNA put all your efforts into making sure there's an NBA next year whether it's in the bubbler out of the. Yeah. Well, the part of the reason why you would leave your someone like an iota soon, move or a jared Butler is generally just because you're betting on yourself right? It's not because you know that you're locked in guaranteed to have a six or seven figure deal next season you're saying that I'm going get the professional ranks and I'm GONNA prove that I'm good enough to get some kind of guaranteed contract whether it is in the G. League or to a war with somebody in. Like Spain or France or something like that. But the problem now is we don't know what the European markets look like first of all, second of all, when the European teams do their signings, it's basically like in the month of August, right though seasons are starting up. So because those European countries were not as dumb as we were in America like they didn't have as long breaks and so you're not gonNA go signed with European team win the NBA draft is coming up in October. But if you don't know if you're going to get drafted, you want to keep your name the draft. So when it comes down to the certainty was that at the very least you know you're going to have a scholarship, you're going to have a place to stay. You're going to have a place to work out. You'RE GONNA have food paid for you're going to have insurance can have all of the things that you basically need to function as it is an athlete and as a human being if you go back to school and you get your scholarship so. I think that's where actually the certainty was. Now, we don't know if there's going to be any seasons like with there's probably going to be an NBA season. We don't know if there's going to be a g league season. We don't know how these two way contracts are gonNA actually work. We don't know what it's going to be like overseas we don't know if there's going to be colleges in, but we do know if these guys go back to school, they will have a place to live. They'll have a way to eat. They won't have to worry about living at home they'll have a place to workout stipend. Stipend a lot of them get their pell grant and that's like I. Mean you're talking some of these kids make more money than the G. League players used to make. Yeah. That's When you can when you can get that and know that you were going to get that when there's so much uncertainty everywhere else it makes coming back to school something that is much more appealing now. If there was no pandemic and there was no corona virus. I. Don't think that we would CIO Zuma back. See Jared Butler back these kind of guys that generally speaking would get picked either somewhere in the late second round or the kind of guys were their agents say two teams don't draft us. We'd rather go the free agent route and then signed like a can't guarantee and try to latch on as G. League two way player Kinda bounce around the lower levels. Of the professional ranks until they prove themselves in an ideal world as someone that's worthy of getting a contract, but that pathway to the professional ranks is not available now. So all these guys came back. So if you had asked me the biggest winner was in all of this early entry deadline in all of these conversations college basketball. I mean we got jared, Butler? Atop Team I owed assume you made we'll talk about some sure Illinois, a top ten team Chris Smith came back and I know they lost station Knicks. WHAT UCLA'S GONNA. Be Like a top twenty team at this point Yummy more came back on states going to be a top twenty five team so. The. Biggest thing. The best thing that happened was all of these guys in it'll come back to school and. I kind of feel bad for him a lot of them wanted to start. Earning at that level that they couldn't be. But for college basketball fans like this made it really really really exciting for next season and I think you mentioned I think he's the perfect case of like you know if there had been a combine. I. O would have thought an did think he told me this. You know with a combine you look at it. Him Right is out lettuces and his game he tests. Well, you know he's GonNa test won't blow it out of the water the combat. The interviews also in person it's completely different than over zoom call. I think he would have. He would have boosted his stock a little bit and in his mind he would have boosted his stock even more. To wear as a again, a lot of these kids come out of a combine and thank while I I did so well boosted my stock enough and you're right I think he probably would have left and now Illinois's looking at. A. Top ten team. I moved him up from thirty, two eight. With. With with I'll come back. I know that's a big jump, but I think it's legitimate at this point. Who So for me, the the best decisions made were Oh Chris Smith, John Petty. Trend Wad for all guys like that. Xavier Tillman I thought best decision for him. You've you've talked to save your multiple. Times. Done stories on him, he's a father of two young children He could go late in the first round up your somewhere between twenty and forty somewhere in that range at the end of I know it's y Wayne's rains right now. But I listen he made the best move for him and his family. Yeah the big thing with him was he needed that security like that's what his decision came down to Michigan. State. Had Him hooked up right? Like he had an apartment there he had placed to for his kids to stay. They were giving him on top of everything else that you were mentioning. He was also getting a check for twelve hundred dollars a month from the university as a father as student that's a father with children that are living with him. So on top of. That's like an extra fourteen grand that is getting coming in. He doesn't have to pay for housing. He doesn't have to pay for food. He told me that what he would do is whenever they would have team meals, he would take his meal, take all the leftovers whatever the face that they have his bring it home and have dinner with his fam-. So, as long as he he needed that guarantee that he would have a place in the NBA in now, I personally think that he's going to be like one of the best rookies next year because I think he can impact right away. If you ask me, what job can he do in the NBA? He can be a defensive menace. Guy Can switch onto ball screens. He six, eight in two, hundred, forty, five pounds. He's a really good playmaker like the the whole Kinda short roll ball screen type thing stuff that Bam a bio has been really good at when when he's Kinda made, this is the stuff thrives with, but he's also really really smart. He's really really really tough and he carries himself as a professional like I think he's GonNa slot right in and be like seventh or eighth man on a really good team that is going to help at team. Win You know the thing he doesn't have upside like I think Jalen Smith and Daniel all these guys are more be all-stars but debuted. So it's like drafting right? You just kind of know that you're going to get a guy that's going to hang around for ten or twelve years in the NBA, and do a job and I think that was able to win is maybe that's not what teams want to draft in the first round like you want to kind of swing for the fences in hope they have four years of Pascal. Where in his fourth season as an all star, he's making two million dollars a year. But when it comes to Xavier Tillman like he's just he's GonNa be able to do a job. So I think what he needed was to hear from NBA teams someone gave them a guarantee or something like that or some. He got enough information to feel confident that role how you're all he had to do these days. If you get the top forty five, you're GONNA get a guaranteed contract and that's going to be a whole lot more than the twelve hundred dollars or whatever. It was a month that now he's getting Michigan State for being author. So you know if your favorite tell me and you look at. Twelve hundred a month. Five, hundred grand guaranteed. What am I doing I'm I'm leaving? I'm taking care of my family. I come back in and finish my degree like might take all those not as degree. He's got it. He could've thought he could've walked in mackinac already. There's some things that he has. No brainer. Can the Guinness Book of Records Give Two, thousand twenty s world greatest delay of game even though sports had a break, your business didn't You have to keep moving. 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This is their best offer available anywhere. So go right now to indeed dot com slash good terms and conditions apply the offers valid through September thirty. Complete rain out here's my question and and we'll get to the worst decisions here in a minute. So August third was the incident of lay dead. August seventeen is the NBA deadline two weeks. How many guys do you think? are going to put their name in for that August seventeenth deadline that we're going to be like Oh man like I didn't see that coming like I ask Scotty Lewis a month ago when I did a podcast with him in Nicaragua and Luke Garza on racism. I said, what? What are the odds are you? Are you thinking about this because now? You have the ability until August seventeenth to put your name in for the NBA draft at that point. Remember you know you have the deadline for had. Come in God. So nobody thought that they had any more time but. How many guys you will see pop up here you know on August sixteenth thirty seventy. Think there might be a couple just because it's an option that still available but I don't know. What changes in the next two weeks will make these kids change their mind right because think it's the kids that didn't put their name in initially that are now remember when they had to put their name in initially at that point for the deadline it didn't look so bleak for college basketball right now. Now, it looks a little better today than it did maybe three weeks ago, but this should changed. The mindset has changed a lot and I. Guess we get Closer August seventy we still won't know whether College Football Games have gone off or not, and that was my whole take is let's let these kids see if there's GonNa be college football in late August or not because if there's not. The odds aren't great that there's going to be college basketball now maybe college football get pushed off. To the second semester which I thought all along that might be the right play. But I think it'd be a couple of guys that when the deadline. Passed months ago. Felt, a lot better by college basketball being played this year than they do right now and but here's the thing about that and to your point is that the August seventeenth deadline is the NBA's deadline, right so if the NBA, just to appoint the hear enough feedback that guys that. Want. To come back in the draft like they can always change the deadline like they will. I don't think push it I think he'll get where it is now. LAGARAS. I asked him, I said Hey are you? Are you going to take these two weeks? Like are you? Still? He said none? I'm definitely going back to Iowa at this point and that's all good and everything but let's face it if Let's say we're in mid September. Right. mid-september they haven't played college football Luca Garza could still go overseas and you've got that option. Like, can make a lot of money playing overseas because correct me if I'm wrong but he has the Bosnian passport, right? Yeah I think he can get. Right right. So some of these kids -sponse right ponds can make money going overseas. If he wants, he decided to come back to Tennessee not funny about him I think that he makes so much more sense as an NBA player than as a guy that is going to play in Europe like if you put each ponds on the Timber Wolves and let him play as a defensive presence next call towns like that's perfect. Careful seat start there I don't think that he will be as good as Brandon Clark as but imagine the role of Brand Clark is. Playing for. MEMPHIS. Maybe just on a little bit of a smaller scale that he's not gonna be as good offensively as what brand Clark is turned into. But how many people right now that we're one of those top twenty picks last year are sitting there saying, Hey, you know what? Maybe we should listen to everyone that said, Brandon Clark was one of the best players in all of college basketball. These are pretty damn good. Yeah. Like he could be like a Andre Rogerson Roberson swear like that that can be his role which again on the right teen. Is. I mean he played any team but on the right team where you get four other scores on the court with him. He could be absolutely terrific. All Right Oh. Sneaky important returns by the way use ponds backs Tennessee I think makes a top ten team. I think they're the favorite to win the SEC season from. Top fifty or top twenty five and a little bit. Let's finish with the worst decisions. The most baffling the worst decision by the way where you want till midnight because you wanted to find out what was going on with CAL baptist. Milan a COA or whatever the hell his name is if if there's an employer listening right now yes. That's exactly why. A. It had nothing to do with Dr to sweat out my sixteen parlay that I had going last night. Had IT. You gotTa Free? Parlay somebody though what is this draft kings or something though I'm not GonNa say who it is until they start paying because you'll give it away for free 'cause. It's really worked for you so far. Let Me Talk Right. So there was a I made a bet I. had a free in the APP that that I use to gamble on and I was just kind of like you know what? Let's just throw it on like six money line favorites and see what happens it ended up being like seven half the one it was a fifty dollar free bet and all of them hit the twins had a walk off last night in the bottom of the ninth the Lakers made a a run in the fourth quarter and shake Milton American hero shake built and hit a game winning three so there will be like dirt. For last night. I One, one, three, hundred bucks. So you know it's not much. But Hey, it's nice know. The Gable. The gods have a soul believe it or not. They absolutely do. I my worst decision. Like it's an easy one for me, not even the worst. Decision. Made. EJ Montgomery. Kentucky like what the Hell Are you doing leaving EJ like like you're not in the top one, hundred, fifty I mean he wasn't invited to combine whatever this combine is a hundred five players that he wasn't invited to the kind of out of the Kentucky. That's that's a big mean like that's how. It was just it. It's maddening for because again, it's not like he Jim Montgomery houses degree he he's not he's leaving without a degree and he could have played thirty minutes a game at Kentucky and. Maybe played himself into the second round light. Nick ridges done the last year. Yeah I mean that's that's what the Gore would have been form right the comeback and kind of had that kind of junior season, and if Nick Richard had had gone after his sophomore year, he wouldn't have got drafted now having this exact same conversation yet but he went after his junior and now he's probably going to get picked. How do you not watch him? You played with him he's your teammate. Oh you gotta do is talk to Nick Richards figure this thing out like all my God. It's just not one not one really frustrates me I'll give you a couple more than frustrate me and these are easy ones kid Nevin hard at Fresno like what do you do go back to school now again, some of these kids were judging we don't know if they just I mean I didn't like school I like the academic part of a thing go too many clauses Arizona but I I, get it. Some of these kids are cut out for school. So I I hate judging in that respect. Nate hidden at Houston. Would love to see him come back I. Think Houston could have been really really good. Here's one that selfishly I would have liked to have seen come back and actually think he's an NBA player though so I hope he gets the Opportunity Ninety Marshall at Xavier. You know like get your degree, get your degree. He's an absolute killer work on your perimeter shot a little bit more so that when you come out like I, think he's got some like Jalen Brown to his game. But. Again, like you gotTa do a little bit more, get that perimeter shot be more of a lockdown be a really good defender and then I make you stick in the NBA right now you're rolling the dice. Yeah. The worst decision I think was Khalil Whitney from, Kentucky Handwritten. January. But. After the year that you had as a freshman like I it's not GonNa happen for you like a and. The frustrating thing about that is, is one I don't know how much of the decision actually was the kids in that situation we don't have to go down that road if you want, but it seems like he was kind of. Force in a way to maybe wasn't the best for him. Personally and I do the problem the people around these kids like you're absolutely right. Is You unique good people around you? You need to listen to the right people what the hell you do transfer and after a semester and then when you transfer. When you bail, you don't even go to class so you don't even have an alcohol is one thing to transfer after some like if you're if you're a place and you just don't like, let's say that while coach cows recruiting Khalil wouldn't he acted one way then he gets on campus yes. Completely different way doesn't like being kind of the spectacle in the spotlight living in the fish bubble that you have to live with I. Mean you're a celebrity basically in Lexington maybe he doesn't like that maybe just the wrong fit for if you realize. It's the wrong and you want to get out of there after a semester. That's that's fine. There's there's the people make decisions they regret if you want to change it immediately go ahead and change it whatever okay things like that happen. But to make the decision when you know you're not going to be drafted and you know that you have such a long way to go before your actual pro to to not just transfer in find another There were plenty of high major programs that are produced professional basketball players that would've taken Khalil Whitney in. This and it's not going to happen. He's going pro I, don't. I i. kind of feel like this is going to be a situation where we just never hear from them again in ten years when we were like, Hey, remember the two thousand and nineteen recruiting class. What happened to Khalil? Now you're right. mccur maker. Do. You think he actually ends up at Howard cause I'm I'm torn I don't trust at Smith. I've been out there publicly saying it. He was the one who told me years ago and I asked them explicitly I said is thon maker going to college and he said one hundred, percent one, hundred percent i. made them repeat it. I, probably have it still audio somewhere. Welcome maker didn't go to college and he was a lottery pick. So like all the power to them, he made found that money and I'm sure it's got a lot of money in his own pocket But now he's got a thon cousin and he's going to Howard allegedly. I WANNA, see it to believe. I. WanNa see it to believe in and and I know. They've said he's he's withdrawing. But he's still got those two extra weeks and again you can leave he could show up at Howard You know instill leaving overseas issue so I. Just I WANNA see him play in our uniform before I actually believe it. As soon as I see him walking out the tunnel at Howard's Jim with the Howard University Jersey on and in the layup lines I. think that's when I'll believe that he's GonNa play for. The the biggest thing though is. We're going to go. You know I don't think he's a guy thon maker was a very obvious first round potential kind of a player and I think that if I'm remembering correctly, he went tenth to the box and everyone was kind of like why are you taking them? He could have gotten in the twenty fifth or whatever But I like McCoy maker is not that guy which by the way we need to call him baby maker I think that that is the name that that that should sick. For him someone referred to from here on fourth baby maker. So if baby maker if he goes pro like he's likely Whitney, I don't i. don't see him getting drafted. You know he's not this flyer. First round pillar him desperately at Howard I think it'd be great for for these. Great for Kenny. Blakeney the interest in the HPC's would be awesome. Again, I just don't trust Ed Smith ultimately I just don't trust them and Oh, by the way, the company That signed a thon maker owned by Mike. George also just signed a neat Darlan of. Delaware. So to add more question marks like What the Hell Delaware is nate darling would y you leaving that that might be number one that that might be ahead of EJ Montgomery and Khalil Whitney. Why are you leaving if you're darling? Yeah I mean, that was a little bit of a head Scratcher, but it's also maybe he just I don't know he got sick of all the neighbouring Jeff L. Does on twitter about the University of Delaware and If you don't want to be associated with Bordello L.. Understand. Metrics. For Them? Yet the one that the one that. I don't know if like disappointed me is the right way to say because I like I want the best for the kid tie Alexander Aguirre I really wanted to see him come back because that would have been a top five team and they play a style that had just so unbelievably entertaining or they get on the floor they might have they. They probably would have had the best backcourt sports with Tashaun Alexander, your boy mark, Ziggurat Ascii and and Mitchell balance like that would have been a lot of fun to watch them have another go at it and This year, they got percents healthy and they get the seven with freshmen brander coming in. So represents a player Denzel, Mahoney, the platelet they would've had a really, really really good team and unlike past seasons where they just kind of spread the floor and shot and they had to make fifteen three to be able be good teams. They actually would guys could have guarded. They would have had some size they would've had some. Lineup, versatility, they would have been able to go in and give you different looks so i. i was really hoping that he would end up coming back. I don't think ties on Alexander's going to get drafted. I think he's the kind of guy where he would have landed on like one of these two way rosters and he's probably looking at like a Geely at best contract. So I hope it all works out for but. I was kind of I was I was sad by that I don't want to say it was the wrong decision because I don't like you know as long as you are making informed decision as one of these players and you know what you're getting into if you go pro and you still wanted to bet on yourself, like go for it I'm not gonNa tell you that Jerome I was just I was sad because I wanted I. Think I thought it would have been really good for college basketball but all all the to him I. Hope He makes A Rob wide you hate Wisconsin. You you hate the badgers let let's be honest here like there's a level of hatred. But you have no respect for this Wisconsin team that I have number six in the country actually swapped them this morning move. Kansas. To five in Wisconsin it's six but they return everything absolutely everything from last year scene which by the way finished. Tied for first in the big ten for the regular season title. Why what's your problem? I mean, I don't have a problem with my just kind of that. I haven't twelfth in the country I. Don't think they're bad I. think they're really good I'm saying they're going to be a top three. See I'm saying that they can go out and win the big head. I'm saying that that's a team can get a final four by having a number twelve was just if you look at all of the other teams in front of. Everyone else has like upside. We kind of know what Wisconsin it's right and and we know who Brad Davis and we know who nate rivers is and we know it to meet your choices and we know who they all where, where are they getting better right. Where do you see that jump? Who Do you see taking the League next year that hasn't already made that leap so we know that they're good enough to go fourteen six in the big ten will we don't know what these other teams is. What happens with Luca Garza Back Jackman Chelsea I don't even know if I said his name right Pajot Tucson at the point I think he's a guy that could take a leap. So you can see where the improvement comes with a program like an Iowa you can see where I assume coming back and Kofi. Cobra coming back. You can see where that team that Illinois team take jump because I think I still has so much room to improve what happens if he finally figures out how to shoot. So for me it's very easy to look at these other teams to think about what they can be if all of these things happen and rank them accordingly now with Wisconsin. I think about what they can be and it's just kind of like what they are. So I'm a little bit lower on them consensus. I. Guess because maybe I think about the upside for all of these teams. I mean, I I. Haven't twelve I don't understand why Wisconsin fans think I. Hate I wrote I I missed on a column I said that that way Brad Davidson got suspended for punching do the nuts and Kobe king transfer. They were rumors that other guys on the program we're going to transfer right after him that I said that this program you know what's in a tough spot I said, they're in disarray ray at the moment they were in disarray but you know what? Here's the thing and this is the truth and I really really really do believe this great guard needs to give me the credit for turning that team around. That column. He's motivated his team. No one in that locker room gets pissed off. No one wants to prove me wrong. So Wisconsin Fans I won the big ten for your woke Greg should do should higher up Hashtag Higher Raw I would I ever? Yard the is like. His interest. H I I. Don't know if I'd be for that. So you need. When when I tweeted out that I been laid off either a bunch of Wisconsin fans build. Embassy gotten rid of you for this call I was like if you think that's why they got rid of meat that column was like my third. Most traffic. The thing that I wrote last year dead NBC. Loved it. Okay. Whether or not. A. Traffic we we're getting from these angry Wisconsin fans good job keep it up. That's I got laid off man. So there's no shortage of action going out in our exclusive partner bet online a sports they're making way back. We've seen it. You have seen NASCAR soccer. They started NBA obviously going on now. Going on full throttle bet on has all the best lines. The best odds for all the upcoming matches They've got NBA futures. Lakers plus two forty right now clippers plus three hundred bucks plus three, twenty, five of the three favorites. But the rockets look in intriguing plus twelve hundred not bad for your money. 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But they've still got lots of proven terms of defensively and who you have any problem with me putting Baylor water. Now none I have Villanova number one but I think you're exactly right you can. have any of Villanova Baylor and Jaga whatever order you want at the top three as long as you have them in the top three I, think that you have a pretty strong argument for all of Iowa, for Villanova because one I just like betting on Jay right I think that he's if he wants title this year I don't think it's talked about enough. He'll have won three of the last five national titles I know it takes place over six years. Three out of five national titles, his England done that since John Wooden I, don't think they have. So Jay Wright at that level again is is just something that I wanna bet on I think colleague be I know you hate him Goodman? He might be a new friend for Sheila killing me about you know just. It wasn't a top ten point guard last season which I. Think. He was right on the verge will here's the thing. He was top ten point guard by the end of last season. November. You said that in like November and he was just kind of like still whatever calling less be, and then it turns out like Oh, you know what he made that leap last year he got better. Also. You're you're right at the time, but you're wrong when we were looking back at, it makes sense. But you give me colleague Lsd Right Gimme Caleb Daniels transfer from two lanes. Who I've heard is really really good. Brian Antoine is back Justin. Moore, might be the most underrated freshmen in all college basketball last season he's back. Jeremiah. Robinson. Earl was back remained. Samuels is back you take all of. Those pieces that you know the thing about J. right is when he builds his programs if he gets some continuity and he has guys hanging around for a couple of years like that's when they get really really good 'cause it takes a while to kind of pick up everything that you're supposed to do within that Wisconsin System in Wisconsin offense. So I'm going to bet on them but like. System in offense you said Wisconsin Wisconsin's on your brain today yet too much Wisconsin. My Brain Villanova you guys know it but so with Baylor the only thing that concerns me is that. I'm not sure which Tristan Clark we're going to get. He was their best player for the first half of the two, thousand, eighteen, hundred eight didn't have them last year he wasn't even there no, but the had Freddie less be. Gets a double double got. So you lose Freddie and now Chris and Clark it's his time to step up if he's the guy that we saw in two thousand eighteen than like Baylor, you might end up being right they're the best team they win the national title if he's not then they might be the third best team in the country but like I like I said, I just. Were, picking it to this like Bailey is going to be awesome they're gonna be no near you. They're going to be good Gonzaga going to be good The, ones that that I've gotten a lot of backlash on I guess in my top fifty. I Have Richmond Fourteen. I have. They're going to be really really really good right Saint Louis everybody back. They're going to be really good and they're all like redshirt senior slyke not they're not even like regular seniors. All these guys are like twenty three years old. So I I don't know I I. Like Them Arizona. State of have it. Thirteen might be a little high. Little high too but I mean they're they're top twenty five. You know and the one that I get crushed on and I'M GONNA THEY'RE GONNA, end up falling one more spot. So their fans are going to be even more upset at me because they're all the way down to twenty four maybe Maybe I won't put I'm not sure I'm going to jump Lsu ahead of them but is Kentucky I got them all the way down to like twenty three, twenty four in that range just because again if they were to play a game today. WHO's their big man? They don't have Olivier SARS is not eligible today the moment he becomes eligible. They move up ten fifteen spots. He's not important to them right now they don't have a big man. That I could impact the game early they struggle anyway in my my whole thing on Kentucky has been are they're young? They don't have a big man today and oh, by the way. Those freshmen. Laden teams this year are going to be hurt more than ever because they're not able to do Jack Shit right now in the summer. They're doing minimal I mean honestly you've talked to some of these coaches, what are they doing a Lotta Merola out there and literally just doing shooting drills for last couple weeks since they've been able to actually work with them since July? Twentieth. Summer doing a little bit more and I think it's ludicrous to be honest for some of these coaches just start like five five stuff at this point when you don't know what these kids have been doing all summer just asking for injuries and the other part is if the season doesn't start until January, you gotta pace yourself right now. So to me, I think teams like Kentucky? Other teams that are completely new. I think it seemed like Arkansas could be hurt by this because they got a lot of freshmen and a lot of transfers a lot of guys that are trying to figure out chemistry things of that nature in it's just harder to do it right now. The and the other big thing with Kentucky's that I think you can kind of get past some of those freshmen issues. If you have a strong presence at the point is strong veteran presence like ask you a lot. I'm a huge ask you fame, but he's also a freshman correct me if I'm wrong but he would he classified right so he's he's young so. I I. Don't know how much of an impact is going to have if you were that confident in him if you're Kentucky are you going out and taking your guy off of Crayton's bench and asking him to transfer into your program, right? So that's that's a little bit of a Red Flag to me So my even if they get Olivier saw and I don't know if they're going to. I know the Kentucky Coaches feel pretty confident about at least they're saying they feel confident about it. Nobody's. Burris has anyone ever gotten a waiver have been players have gotten waivers to be immediately eligible after a coach was left on or was was like almost fire it's happened afterwards but there's been mitigating circumstances reasons beyond just the coach that's people realize coaching change is not a way to get a waiver. There's gotta be something else there. Right like Cleveland State. Last year with Dennis Felton. Some things happened within that program. With wake obviously, you can't use like toxic environment. Dan and manage like the nicest human being the face of the planet so far came out and said on the record to I think it was espn I'm going to Kentucky to to boost my draft stock because I think it's better for me as a basketball player, and if I don't get a waiver I'm GONNA go out. I'm paraphrasing. What is quotes work I think they were using the fact that Manning. Like right wasn't he didn't have enough time to decide whether he could go pro or not after men and gov fire the too much happened too quickly will now the new deadline is August seventeen so you can't use that as an excuse now. Again. So, many people are going to use. We've seen it so far most of the waivers that have that have occurred have been runoffs ninety, five percent of them. In explain it for those listening most people probably understand it at this point but if If a team. If a coach says, Hey, listen you're not really going to play next year. He transferred somewhere else as long as that coach signs off on it. Then, it can be a runoff waiver. rubberstamps it. Okay. You're eligible this year because the previous coaching staff said, we didn't want you. So you're automatically eligible. That's ninety five percent of them. You're going to have a bunch of them now. They're obviously Kobe related. I have not heard of too many. Yet that have been eligible I'm not sure I've heard of any you know people look at Johnny Juzeng Going from Kentucky, UCLA I believe there was some other circumstances there wasn't a straight cova deal to be able to go back home. In, play UCLA and be eligible right away. So it's GonNa be interesting to see I think one component I've heard about is the financial component it affects you financially. As it relates to co bid and it may be you need to get closer to home or it's better for a job for your family or something to that effect. I think then you might be able to get a waiver but. I, just I don't know. is going to get it I. Don't think anybody knows if Libya's are gonNA get it Sure. They'll be pressure put on Put on on the to blame for all of these cases but. Your guests is good as mine with this. And just to clarify I hope he does get it because I think that all players should be able to transfer without having to sit out so. I. Hope he does, but we're not dealing with hope we're dealing with the realities of the rules of the NC Double A. which. You. Know not always the best who who, else in your top twenty five. I haven't seen your your latest right now anything that Kinda stands out to you. I Have Virginia four I don't know where you have. Virginia. But you you give me. Tony Bennett Defense in you give me Sam Hauser who I think is going to be a first team all American this year that that might be my hottest date is that Sam House is going to be a first team all American for top five Virginia team. So that's not bad I mean, listen the the the all Americans have you and I are GonNa agree on obviously garches gotta be on there were. Both gotta have a cigarette ski on there. I have him second team but yes, we are important going. I had jared Butler. I assume moot. Kate Cunningham Sam, houser Luca Garza. CADE. Honestly might be my co player of the year with Garza. So I thought about that it's got to be one of the two. But if you go back and you look through the last fifteen years of guys that have been the national player of the year, the only guy that has been less than a four seat during w tournament was Andrew Bogut and that was coming to rank Doug McDermott got a three seed and Jimmy for debt got as a three. So unless you have a year as good as Doug McDermott Kevin Durant or Jimmy for debt, you have to be a top two seed, and by the way those three dudes could do what should you get out of it? Kate Kate is not that. So I'm with you listen the pack and like if you're not picking Luca Gaza to Win National Player of the year, aren't you just trying to be different? At I mean I, you can justify cade Cunningham because I think he'll be the best player in college basketball but the best and the national player the to me the best is who you would pick I. If you're starting at team if you're going to say the national player of the year, you're projecting who you think the most accomplished player will be and to me winning goes hand in hand with being a quote unquote. Accomplished. Basketball. and. If we have I won the top ten and nobody has Oklahoma state in the top twenty five I I just I think you have to go Luca Garza and then if it ends up being K. Cunningham but you're not going to be wrong we all know how good he is. It's just I don't think that you can project than to be good enough or he's a national player of the year. Can I can? I give you a guy a hot take on somebody that I'm debating about even me I'm debating whether to put Marcus Garin team. All American. I thought about him. He was he was one of the guys on my list. They're like the best defender maybe in college basketball this year we would agree with me and Oh by the way he's GonNa play the point full-time at Kansas. so by default isn't Marcus Garrett and a half the average fourteen points and five assists going along with being the best defender in the country wouldn't that be worthy of being first team all American if he does that Yeah. But my concern is like he's going to have to play the point right but that doesn't automatically mean he's going to be good at it. So I get what you're saying and I don't necessarily disagree but I kind of want to see him handle the few though he was better than I thought when Dotson off the quarks year he was I thought it was gonna be a train wreck and I think he was really good in in short of sports now again. My take is I trust bill self as as an exhibition guy as a coach I think he's one of the best. I don't think he gets enough credit. For his coaching now, what's GonNa go on at Kansas this year. We don't even know. I, mean. That's the heart of. Are you still going to have marcus gear as a first team? All American right I mean that that's the hard part I. Think we just don't know the time line on any of this and my hot state for an all American Yoga I, thirteen but this. This is a huge leap that he's taken. He's going to be my breakout player of the year. Okay. Can you guess do you have any guesses? One of my breakout players I'm just looking scrolling right now is terraced Shannon at Texas Tech. I I liked that pick it's not him. Your your favorite coach in the country. and John Calipari is least favorite coats in the country actually the met maybe that's not true. Kentucky. Fans least favorite coach in the country who would that Bruce for? Chris Mack. David Johnson I love star third team all American I. Think he's going to be an absolute monster this I. think he's really good. Defensively I think he's GonNa figure it out shooting because he's you know he has a shoulder injury. So think he's GonNa put that together and he's just to me and unbelievable passer numbly point guard I? Think he's GonNa end up playing his way to being a lottery pick. He's gone after this year thirteen Mile American you heard it here first. Yeah I like that one. I liked that one I'm trying to think who else Is GonNa make a huge. One. Here's another lottery pickup nowhere. Book night at. I was just GonNa say that I was just I love book night I think he's a killer i. again, he's gotTa average twenty game for for Yukon next year. I do man you want. A game and the AC yeah I think you will look it and he's got the mentality to be able to play for in thrive under under Danny or I'm with you like is an easy breakout guy and he could be a God that you put. On on your you know. All Americans I'm going. My favorite. My favorite mid major guy that I'd like to I like to use you throw one guy I'll do. All Americans I used to throw. For one. Guy Jordan Adams of Austin That's my government being on to guard who can score get to the basket. He could shoot it and I think he could be honestly wouldn't shock. Could he sneak into like I ride late first round territory next year for the NBA draft maybe and like isn't he isn't there a at least discussion to have whether or not he's actually the best player on that awesome PTA was the cosmic. Player he's not I mean, Kerry Taylor is the best. He's the reigning ovc player of the year like no, there's no discussion there Terry Taylor and if Terry Taylor was two inches bigger. You'd be talking about him as as maybe a you know as an NBA draft pick. So I got Austin P. in the top fifty I'm probably the only knucklehead to do that. No it's not wrong I like. I like I got to figure out team big. My big thing we're done with this podcast is I gotta figure out a fifty to bump stanford out I gotTa Get San Fernando top fifty now the territory out of the top fit I, got him out of the top twenty five out of the top fifty seems aggressive but we probably talk about tyrod Taylor right feral Terry. Terry. Early. Cairo Taylor. tyrod you're thinking about Tyrod, Taylor? Your NFL fantasy drafted. Sucking you listen should have no excuse. To suck this year, you've got time on your hands now. You should be doing some serious homework for fantasy football I. I need to start man I've been completely putting it off I need to start you got time but I'm. Terry Women's to get him to just draft for me. It's. Real Terry you hate it I'm like mixed because he can go late first round but he would have been a lot better coming back. He's a shot maker but I think he could have put on ten pounds and Stanford would have been really really good this year. Yeah, you know I think that really hurts Stanford more than it would have a hurt him to come back to school if that makes sense I think that he is. The kind of guy it's weird like I think he's probably GonNa go somewhere like in the early twenties because all it takes is one team to fall in love with him. But I also think vets He's the kind of guy where the office. WHO's coming in? Now is unique. What's Your Life. Begin on. US Good. She can't she. She's sitting on the schooner so she's not going to be able to be seen by the. Camera. What see? You'LL WB you'll be done soon. Hello. How are you? Hanging in there. All right man scooter. You move quicker than rob though even on that scooter I'm sure Bus. Rapid up some we're up. Thanks for doing this rob I, appreciate it again, Hashtag. Higher Rob and thanks for taking an hour out of your. Day. Go find robbed. Officer new job. Enjoy life for a little while and then you gotta find a new job I'm Hey I. Get two paid vacation right now so On October ninth I need a job take care of your kids do some do some fatherly duty here? I'll. I'll do my best.

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Girls Talkin 'Boys: Outdoor sports in Texas?

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Girls Talkin 'Boys: Outdoor sports in Texas?

"UFC Two fifty kicks off this Saturday and draftkings the leader in one day. Fantasy sports is giving you a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. It's easy to play and for a limited time draft kings is offering both new and existing users a deposit bonus up to five hundred dollars. Download the draft kings at now and. And Use Promo Code SP nation to get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. That's Promo Code. SBA Nation to get a free shot at one million dollars with your first deposit, only at draftkings minimum five dollar deposit required deposit bonus requires a twenty five times playthrough eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details. Up Guys, it is Monday June first and I am Kelsey Charles this is Meghan Murray and you are listening to girls, talk and boys. In partnership with SP nation. So a lot of stuff is happening in our world right now and. Megan. Some talking about this before we hit record on this show today and we really feel like we would be remiss not to go ahead and talk about it and address it. you hear lot about? Sticking to sports, but We truly believe that commentary like that. Comes from within a vacuum and simply cannot be applied here because. Ultimately before we were sports, podcasters and you know cowboys fans. Where humans and We. Have decided, and we've taken a stance that we're not going to sit on a throne of privilege. And turn a blind eye because it does not affect us. I think for a lot of us. We don't quite know where to start. we come from a place in a well intention heart, but. Were afraid to say the wrong thing. Scared to come off as tone-deaf for insensitive, because quite frankly, we lack the perspective, so we choose to say nothing at all. Besides four many of us in this day and age, we can just keep scrolling, because it doesn't affect us, and ultimately we will be okay. But what I've come to realize is that it is on us the unaffected to truly go out and help make change. We simply cannot expect the oppress to be the only ones to speak up to be the ones to free themselves from the oppressor, rarely ever in the history of the. Has that ever been the case? Being a good person isn't easy, you guys. In fact. It's not always fun, and it certainly isn't convenient. But what it is is worth it. And so. I would encourage you to open your eyes. Open your ears. Open your heart and lean into the discomfort, because what your feeling right now is what some people feel and have felt every single day. Yeah in tenfold. I feel like it's times like these that reminds you. It's not enough to just not be a racist person like you have to actively be anti racist. Try to speak up whenever you see something you say something you stop someone from like a even a little micro aggression or like robbing the N. Word in a song. You have to stop like in. Make people, realize. How that like is not helping anyone's 'cause. You're not moving anything forward. You're holding us back So to are black community I just from both of us. We see you. We hear you and we're We're standing with you. Yeah, and we, we you. This is an open conversation. we obviously. Couldn't possibly know it all, but We're committed to learning. To continue to develop the best tactics that we can as active individuals in the society to be the best allies we can. We can possibly be yeah I'm guilty of not even realizing how much more I could actually do. so many awesome resources that are available and We'll definitely post some for you guys. In case you're interested just so we can all work on this together. Sports in Texas. Can resume. Without fans on May thirty first per governor Abbot. That came down this past week. I think there's been a lot of talk about governments reopening and league, trying to figure out how they can handle sports coming back into our society amidst this global pandemic in Corona virus, albeit they don't have a vaccine in place yet and so I. Think it's very very touchy. Subject to be a part of. I think you're seeing a lot of leagues. The NFL came down and said we'll offseason programming the most recently. They said you know we're going to make sure they were treating this holistically. Where if one state? You can't be doing something. We're not gonNA. Give another team advantage to be able to be doing something that another state team state can't be doing so I. Think it's a very interesting place to be in. But specifically we're seeing the Texas is indeed opening up, and as governor, Abbott said May, thirty first sports in Texas can resume without fans. And also he came out and said that outdoor stadiums and arenas can operate at a twenty five percent fan capacity starting in June. Sure Globe Life Park is thinking him right now, yeah! That that was a big struggle it was it was gonna be really fun to get that New Stadium and Just go to a ball game there and. And, then all the sudden, it never opens interesting to say the least because I think again like very exciting. For people that are looking forward to having sports back in their lives, but it looks like it'll be probably a prolonged period of time for people in Texas to actually be watching sports in person because they're actually outside of Betsy Dallas Yeah in Dallas. There are no outdoor facility. It's hot. Yet that's a good point. You know what I've gotten pretty comfortable on my couch. If you couldn't tell so I, think I'll be okay if as long as I can get a little little Salton something. Yeah, it's interesting, though because you know as I mentioned before we are, there's a lot places. That are reopening and no matter what your your opinion on that is. I think ultimately people are trying to find the safest ways to be able to participate in sports and participate in sports, activities, and so I think you're gonNA, see. Them trying to figure out. If we can practices team? What does that look like now? You know like no contact. Are you going to be able to hold practices like you used to be able to do. You have to Maybe maybe it is just enough to do contact, and you're just very careful about not touching your hands to your face. Yeah I just have a couple of questions about how you're able to test people for coronavirus every day. I don't know and again. That's what's so crazy about to you because you know I think coach. McCarthy spoke this past week and He still imagine getting a q. tip up your nose every day. Right, just imagine. He still said they don't have a plan in place for training camp to. They're still working through all their options, so I think that's still means. Oxide is on the table. And then you have places like Frisco that are on the table, but they haven't even been able to be in person yet. Let alone figuring out what that's going to look like here for the future, so and I know you used to run training camp, and you can kind of go into the INS and outs of like why it's such a big deal that they actually go out there, but to me a simpleton who doesn't know such things. Yeah I'm just like it just seems like a bad idea to travel that far. Yeah, well I was competition, was it? You I don't know someone we probably yeah probably was. But if we get to the point, we're actually going to be playing sports I feel like. What I feel like it's going to be the case in my personal opinion, and if I had to make a guess, I feel like you're basically going to be insinuating you as a team and football. Specific individuals in football players where you're vials, the teams operation. You're in essence. Operating under quarantine together where if you're part of the team? You're basically kind of quarantining with your teammates if you will so if you think of it from that perspective because you know you. You're coming to work. You're assuming that you're going be coming to work. You're assuming that you're going to come into practice in whatever form practice looks like so basically you are kind of taking that quote risk that you could potentially exposed your quarantining with these people basically. Then why not? It could potentially make sense for you to be on a plane together. Where you charter a plane and all of you go, because basically you are again. It's the same people you've been with. It's nothing no additional people, and then go to California and then don't have any fans I could see that potentially as something that could happen I. Don't know if it would yeah, and then it's just i. see that part I. Get that part. I'm also in my head I'm like okay, but these guys have families too, so then when you think about. Their their quarantine together are they able to see their families when they come back? Do they see their families and expose them to what they could potentially be exposed to? That's where it gets kind of like. A little scary thing here. Everyone was like well. There's a hotel here in Dallas up. In Frisco, the Omni, that's basically acted the star. Players can say there, but then again. That's you that means. That's a lot easier for your visit so like you don't mean. Yeah, it's a lot to ask of human beings to not hang out with their families. just so we can watch them play sports. I mean I want it. Don't get me wrong. It is it's like there's a lot to think about and I know they're going over. Every little thing, yeah! You have to nine was exciting, but that was just the primer. This Saturday UFC two fifty is starting off the June. Sports calendar with a bang and draftkings the leader in one day. Fantasy sports is putting you in the center of the action with a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. If you haven't tried it yet, fantasy is easy to play. Just picks expires stay under the salary cap and pile up. Points for advances take downs and more. There's no better way to put your knowledge to the test then. Then to compete for a shot at one million dollars, and for a limited time, draftkings is offering both new and existing users a deposit bonus up to five hundred dollars download the draftkings at now and use Promo Code SP nation to get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. That's Promo Code SB nation to get a free shot at one million dollars with your first deposit, only at draftkings minimum five pas required to the bones requires at twenty five times playthrough eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details. Yeah so I don't know I mean I it's. Just even my mind kind of my mind is blown, even kind of just talking through the potential situations for Jaffa. Practice training camp. I mean I've been I actually got the chance to socially distant view a practice a kind of a practice. The Other Day With D., rob became on our show. Do you branded. You haven't listened to episode. Go back and do it right now. He's a genius, you guys. He's amazing I think Wfan don't. Documentary or I'm sorry on him might as well be a document yet, minus is that interesting? So I actually went out and watched him when he had a training session with some guys and got to see. It was a bunch of NFL why receivers. The only cowboys esque person was Lance Lenore. On the team anymore so. By it, you know basically everyone was pretty much like you'll. Keeping their distance from each other and you know. They were touching their face or anything like that, and there wasn't any contact and then sanitizer on deck. Yeah, pretty much like there wasn't any contact and how they were, they weren't like really touching each other the drills and everything it was very like individualized the contact that you had was you in the ball, and so the ball would be like your point of potential like. Contact with anything and. It was a lot of like not touching your face like you know hinted has type situations I? Honestly imagine what? That process, if ever they get to game play fingers crossed. That's going to be a big thing. is changing out the ball every on maybe every play. Yeah, I! Don't know I. Mean I wish I knew the number of top of my head, but like even on game days, so they keep a lot of balls. Yeah, game days you have to prepare a certain amount of game balls, and yet prepare a certain amount of of kicker balls, and so I even wonder if you'll see this trickle down effect into the equipment that is actually being used on game days to like. Are they going to increase? The number of balls are being submitted to the referees for game play. You know I don't know I, don't I didn't even think about until you said this conversation now honestly. Yeah. It's like you feel like you're like okay. I can see how this can be thing, and then it's just like, but what about this? Oh, Whoa, hold our I mean it really is a lot bigger than just like getting these guys on the field. Yeah, there's so many intricacies you have to think about. Yeah and. Man I didn't even think about that. And it's just like it's. It's so contagious, so and it's still up in the air about every other day. It's it's this way this way. It could be this way a little bit to and you're like. Yeah, I'm never leaving my apartment again, right But yeah, it'll be really interesting, and I thought also this. Little bit of a sidestep, but the NHL. Did you see there like a round robin. Yeah, so I thought. That was really interesting in I. Know That wasn't the Dallas mayor was really. Pushing for them to come here. And I. Could be. But it was like. It was that or like the GM of stars or something like that, but Tom Hardy, basically the same thing. Yeah I think that's interesting to again. Like watching. How these are! The professional teams are? are adapting? Mark Cuban on Let me tell you about NHL also. Give me color commentary to. Basically the NHL has decided that they are going to. Play out the rest not of the season, but starting stopping. What was it like March? Eleventh wherever your team was in the standings, they have they've now moved you into an expanded playoff setting, so it's going to be like kind of price will style where, though player, in four different cities and I am I don't remember all the full details, but again going to be expanded playoffs, so it's not gonna be as small Stanley Cup playoff has only is obviously considering the circumstances, but you'll have. The top teams from the divisions are going to be competing to be round robin style they're. Basically going to be like quarantining together, no fans and that's how they're going to play out the Stanley Cup well, and I think they had the way they just like had it projected wherever they have the stars at like a four seed that could move into a one seed. which there is also this reddit thread that I was just like really thankful for like people doing the most. And like how we? We started the season with Jim Montgomery then he you know. He! He had some problems that he had to go, so we had rick bowness come in and then There was a day where he was not there. And they played the blues, and it was John Stevens so he has the best record in the NHL because he has. Here's a one zero. Record. John? Whatever I think John Stephen. You know what. You're thinking whip. We're going full stars on Cowboys Podcast, but John Stephen is the cowboys is is Jerry Jones's grandson's name, which is exactly why you said that it is. Going, however, he is one no in his coaching career, and it's against Blues I'm just saying Stanley Cup. Things to you, do you? We're seating. Yeah, we're starting the championship city in Dallas one sport. I love that and. I also feel like you might see something with the NBA I know that. Mark Cuban was on pardon. My take the other day, and he was always enjoyment hangers on there I just enjoyed that show. Yeah true. But yeah, and he was saying how you know. They're trying to work through some possibilities right now and and something along the lines of like quarantine league could be saying. I can tell you I in my nine to five job. I heard about like the big three, so which is It's the the basketball league. They were talking about doing a quarantine house where they basically took. Players and they quarantine them. If you left the house, you're breaking quarantine. You couldn't play, but at this House you would just play tournaments and games that would be. It was almost like reality TV esque and like these. Really. Like big brother the. NBA. Stuff. So my drug of choice, honestly, it's GonNa. Be So interesting to see how these teams a even get the players together to be playing as safely as possible. I think no matter what because there is no. There is no vaccine right now. We can't possibly. Assume that these players will never be exposed. We don't know that they will, but I think when ever they participate in sport before a vaccine. Anything kind of remotely contact you. Are Ultimately. Acknowledging the fact that you could potentially be exposed. Yeah, and I think it. There are doing a good job of giving them every resource if From what they're saying. We're going. Give them everywhere source that if they were to contract it that they'd be taking care of. I don't know what kind of constellation that means some people like when they get it. They're not super affected by it and some people it's like. End All be all so. There are people dying from this and they're not all old. Right, yeah, no, I mean I think. There's been teenagers. There's a twenty year old in Dallas. That died yeah like. I don't know yeah so. I can talk hypotheticals all day. What we've been seeing is. that. They're obviously these leagues in these team owners in these GM's. These coaches have a lot of tough decisions ahead. I think they'll have some. They're going to be mandated by the League and I. Think they're going to have some. They're going to have to make on their own, and it'll be really interesting. I think you'll see a hybrid of things that will live across the board like I said from a lead perspective, but also just from a country perspective I know my organization that I work at. We're not talking about going back yet, but when we do, we have been told by our leadership that hey, when you come into the office. At least for a certain amount of time you, you will be required to wear masks or will provide one for you. We're to also take your temperature. Coming and going and then also we're going to do a daily survey with you before you come into the office about. If you've been exposed to someone who might have coronavirus, have you been expose yourself or have you been traveling? Internationally in the past fourteen days, so I think it's very plausible that things like that could be implemented as well. So. It's. Unprecedented. You've seen it before, but you guys were living this. 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180: Sens lose in OT in Montreal, Pete de Boer fired, NHL not in a hurry to help women's pro hockey

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

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180: Sens lose in OT in Montreal, Pete de Boer fired, NHL not in a hurry to help women's pro hockey

"Steve Project. Everybody welcome to the program. It's Ottawa's number one sports. podcast Steve Worn along with Jim Jerome or assisted on the play by Jim K.. Ford RB Computing All Insurance Ontario material. We also like to thank everyone who is in on the Patriot. Mix especially are project managers. The Big Five. They deserve some love. Henry Backer Josh Morgan. Even Josh and Morgan Canadian Most Lt and Michael Pearson. Thanks as well. Marcus Vaughn be Jon Stewart Matthew from Blackburn Hamlet. Chris mcgahey Mike Federally Dan. Dan Rutz will anderson the Matrix and George Valenzuela James. How're things my friend? Hello everybody welcome to the show. The number one sports podcasts and auto. I'm Steve Warren. He's Jim Rome brought to you by one of our great. That's a long Echo Canyon or something journey remember it yeah Stevie I I'm all good all good what they do. Last night. I WELL STAYED UP Steve Till five thirty in the morning. Oh watching TV. You know. I used to watch well you know I love Netflix. Love Netflix but I watched a movie. I hadn't seen in years good good flick. Good Flick haven't quite finished Michigan but called breach from two thousand seven about a true story about a CIA the FBI. Agent spy That that they nailed in two thousand and one Russian Russian turncoat Colt and anyway. Good good movie. I love to pass on the good movies Stevie so a twelve year old movie. Had you staying till five thirty in the morning because I was going to just come. I'm out in your so excited but no it's been years. I'm sort of a two o'clock guy in the morning. I get all my shit done at night late at night. Practice my piano and everything at midnight and and I'm doing sorta sort of sort of weird my time. Schedules turned and went to bed. I sleep with my IPAD. Steve Steve. She's beautiful not you know what I'm saying. Bring the IPAD with me into the rack for. I don't WanNa hear that what's that it's there's nothing dirty. I'm not watching porn or anything. Just you don't have I watch I watch movies or shows you know and watch how she's beautiful so I just immediately jump to that conclusion. Well that's my little ipad name for but Today is as we record this and too big birthdays taes both Tony. Gabriel and Daniel Alfredsson. Alfie is forty seven and Tony. Gabriel the longtime Ottawa. Rough rider. What did you say was seventy one or seventy two born in forty eight nine thousand? Four hundred seventy-one. Anyone an interesting story. I saw twitter today that he actually was a free agent. Nobody I didn't hear what his rights belong to nobody. NFL WERE CFL in the first place he went was the Toronto argonauts and they said no to him. They weren't interested. Did and you know who was the head coach of that team. The great auto a rough rider. Russ Jackson all Russ and so. It's actually Russ Jackson. That was responsible for Tony. Gabriel ending up with the Ottawa rough riders at one point. Yeah of course people who will remember ever hearing twenty Gabriel being interviewed He was and probably still is. I guess an incessant talker right I mean he. Just you'd ask him a question and it became almost laughable laughable. How how Hollywood drag on his answer and go into areas that eventually he forgot what the question was? Do you remember doing those interviews with them. Of course yeah. Another famous question about tell us about that. play the play that won the nineteen seventy six Grey Cup clements Gabriel and then he you went off and Guys Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. We played it back for the longest time. Always you in the background chuckling. I don't know if we excited you at that point but Tony was none the wiser but man he must have been a fifteen minute answer. I'm not. I'm not sure Tony. What what renovating in your bathroom pass clements to you when we asked you about that trip? He went on to Spain. Talk that come in. Yeah well he had. He had a one moment where I was doing this by the way thing in his story. And so he digress is over here and literally talked I five minutes and then dismissed the whole thing the and goes but that doesn't matter right now and then got back. Tried to get right back on track. If it doesn't matter right now. Why did you just talk about? But if for five minutes bright you know what I take away from that and I was at that game actually in Toronto up there with my folks in sorts. Seventy seventy six Steve Guests of that pass. That's why my mother so kind. AS WE'RE TAKING A Streetcar From Exhibition Stadium. Back back downtown towards the hotel they might have had a few Steve at the game they might have had a few pops and my mother was quite tired and decide to lie down. Stephen the Aisle of St to rest. That's my mother paid or Berry. She was here she was wonderful. That was but I just can't can't picture berry doing that. She did Yup Yup up very very did a couple of a couple of very funny things totally funny things. Yup that was one that was one of them. That's pretty amazing game though and if you're interested. Youtube Uber has the entire game like the entire broadcast commercials analysis. All of it. So if you're if you're if you're that if you're old enough to remember the nineteen seventy seventy six grey cup. I was very little vague recollections of it but I came across it on Youtube. It's their from start to finish pre-game interviews everything post post game celebrations so as cool to find that you know when I remember watching I watched you know it was kind of the only game in town right back. Then you know. We didn't hardly had cable. I don't think and so- CFL right. I remember watching what my dad. We've talked about this before. Great Great Childhood Memories Watching the Games going out at halftime in the art to play interception. My Dad me and my brother defending each one for the smell of cigars Stephen. The Living Room watching watching the game my dad giving me one so I can have one with them when I was thirteen it was nice. what What I remember watching? Tony Gabriel okay. And and him running downfield going. How can you possibly you not defend this guy? He can't run JOE like if you looked at them. These long spindly legs he would. It was almost take a new hip when he ran. And it's like. How is this guy getting these passes? You know watching a workhorse in the Kentucky Derby. Yeah it's just watch the game now you brought it up. It's on new. I'M GONNA go back and look and I was reminded of it over the last couple years every time I saw him. It's like Rob Gronkowski. You know in in New England the guys like just a massive man and when you see them come off the line. They're not they're not gonNA know speed man you you know and yet the guy was incredible receiver same with Tony Gabriel. It's like every time on this guy so slow and can't fake or anything and yet it was fantastic. That's what I remember about. Gabriel Yep watching. We always found a way to get open. Always one big catch chapter the next and celebrating a birthday as we record this on December eleventh and Daniel Everson is mentioned. forty-seven I really hope that the sense can mend fences. One more time with Alfie. Here's the thing I've come up with Steve for. I don't blame them. Here's the thing I've come up with for mcdavid David Okay. Because I love mcdavid like everyone they call them. Mc Jesus Steve Okay. Here's something I've come up with that I think it's GonNa go viral praise mcdavid. Hey Hey how's that one appraise mcdavid. Great I it's fresh. It's new he maybe the church exactly. You don't make Jesus Prays mcdavid mcdavid. Isn't that great. It's absolutely fine that you do that But if there's any money to be made I'll l. expect my royalty checks made out every couple of weeks or so that'd be fabulous otherwise you're free to use it it's good. I started messing around with the Church of Carlson. When Bobby Ryan I think Bobby Ryan arrived in town? He was briefly The leader of the Church of Ryan Tala G. O.. Not Bad I was pleased with the name however didn't exactly pan out. No no no you pick the right guy. There's only one Alfie. Go to pick a guy with a little staying empowers Steve. Yeah okay so we lost two over the course of the show. I want to thank our sponsors here before we launch in in earnest like Jim k four. Four don't sit out the season. Jim Ford thinks she should get out there and enjoy it all with a twenty nineteen Ford. 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Your home may need to get it ready to hit the market and then after you've closed the deal it's a one thousand dollar gift card to any store in Ottawa. You choose when you bought your home something you need for the house a trip hockey gear. Whatever contact line today Glenn Walton Dot Com all right so we have a fifth? NHL Coach now to lose his job this season. And it is Pete Deboer five coaches already and it's mid December. Wasn't it like two years go. We fire we'll see any firings in the NHL and deboer. It's is such A. What have you done for me lately? Business isn't it. Seven months ago he in the San Jose Sharks were in the western conference final two days out of a job and bore got fired yesterday. Doug Wilson announcing announcing the change after the sharks got back from their road trip they were on a five game losing slide five points out of the playoffs. They also find through divorce assistance and they made assistant coach coach. Bob Buchner the interim coach. And this would Doug Wilson had to say when you have had a level of past success change is never easy but we feel this team is is capable of much more than we've shown thus far and that a new voice is needed as a team and as individuals are play as not mad expectations this year and our level of consistency. It has not been where it needs to be this group of individuals who will lead our team. Moving forward are very familiar with our players and we think this change can provide our group with a fresh wash. Start so I think there's a little bit of pressure on Doug Wilson with this particular season because there's that added pressure of having given their first round draft pick away to the senators in the Era Carlson trade and we all know what that's like we saw it a couple of years ago in the sense made the Matt Duchenne deal. Speaking speaking of the senators. They wasted a nice comeback in Montreal down to nothing in the third and managed to tie it up and then lose in overtime by account of of three to two and if we're look exclusively at the winning goal by Montreal a lot of stuff went wrong for this ends you got chuck with the Puck. Walk in the three on three. He skates over. The Haves Blue Line puts the brakes on and passes Farside to Anthony Clare and its way behind him way labor behind him but do Claire Kinda just keeps coasting past it for some reason if he puts the brakes on he can probably help manage the park a little bit but he keeps coasting hosting Sonata Turnover. And now you've got domi rolling up. The ice with the puck could chuck is back and now covering him and Thomas Watkins C.. That dome is covered hurt by chuck and yet he comes over and tries to cover Domi as well and now Ben Shapiro. Totally ignored right behind. Chabad comes skating. And he's left all alone and Shera takes quick pass and scores and I think in fairness to Chabad like that's just too much ice time for him on the night on on that shift and on the night he was out there for a long time before that goal is scored and on the night. He played almost twenty nine minutes. That is eight and a half minutes more than any other Ottawa senator. But there was there was lots to like there. The sends played a good road game. They had the comeback. And that's that's a nice earned point. What if any concerns? I would call attention to call in White Lake. He is just not doing anything right now. You know for the same reason people was saying okay. Oh Logan Brown is at a guy. Looks like he needs more time in the minors her or before Him Eric Brannstrom or before him. Drake bathurst and like these guys. Were all kind of looking little deer in the headlights at the NHL level and then they get sent down to try and work things out. You don't call and white about in those terms anymore because they got the big contract waiting for starting next year however at some point you're gonNA have to make a call on call in White Guy. He's not really doing much right now. Why is he taking big big time? Minutes away from a guy like Logan Brown at the center. Ice Position doesn't make a lot of sense. He is still waiver. Exempts of the sense could still send them down to Belleville and it might be something they need to consider Sooner rather than later but hey we'll see how it goes. Maybe I'll figure things out. So there's your hockey story in a nutshell our RB RB computing web poll. Today it is about if you can stand it because we are a couple of weeks out from Christmas now and the Christmas carols are coming at US fast and furiously furiously. Our question is what Christmas Carol needs to go. What Christmas Carol Popular Ones Need to be shot into the sun? Never be hurt again by human ears. Lt writes anything by Mariah Carey. Maybe Bloody Vendetta Felice Nabi Dot. It's so brutal I just can't stand it meltdown. Radio writes this Song Jingle Bells by Barbara Strikes and must be eliminated. It tormented me for a couple of years when I worked at low but Lincoln Heights and not sure that qualifies as a popular one. I don't know if I've ever heard that. But it sounds sounds awful and dreadful got a few good sends Christmas shoes by new song. Oh that's a beauty. That's an obvious attempt to force the tears to flow. I mean what a depressing song for. What's supposed to be a happy time of the year? Spend your time not money Christiane Rights. I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus seriously that is just wrong and finally sporting guys sports in guy writes. I say take a wiffle bat and Wham last Christmas into space plays a whole online meam right now but that song and wham again is what it's called. I guess the the game is so how long you can get into the Christmas season without having to be exposed to last Christmas by Wham. Keith James What say you. Oh it's gotta be Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer Steve. They have to get rid of okay. Let's get not not because it's such a bad Christmas Carol. But it's offensive healthy Steve. Okay that roof is suing Santa Claus for letting the other reindeer laugh at him and call him names all the years ago fifty years ago so all right so they got this. This is an atrocity. Steve what's happening. Yeah he the whole big thing on that big cartoon on it basically where Rudolph and the dentist the dentist. You don't remember the dentist interesting. I don't how look David Spade. Oh okay all right okay. Case so the original the two with them basically decided to get revenge on everybody for laughing and calling them names O and they actually get machine guns and things and it just becomes a bloodbath so yes there you go another guy said there's a huge investigation huge investigation In in in coming up that they've got to look into how many children have ended up on the naughty list. Steve from that other Christmas Care Better Better Watch out you. Better not pout right. That's offensive Steve. Totally who's on the you know you Nadia Nice. Right if you don't if you're on the Nautilus and and Santa made that less than he made one of the gone. Tell all the other kids right here on the naughty list at some stage it is going to have to just all sit still and quiet and if we WANNA talk. We're going to have to fill out some forms and have them pass through committee to make sure it's going to be okay. That's true but to say the other. This is awful. They're telling me jingle all the way. Okay that's unfair aggressive it. Is You know the people telling me what to do. Maybe I just want to get to second base. It's abuse Steve. You know she can go bells jingle bells jingle all the way. That's going way too far sleigh to for you people out there jingle bells. You know what I'm saying. I know Paul is brought to you by RB computing from computers and business networks and everything in between rb computing solves tech related issues in record time now for the holidays. Check out the. AMD reisen nine thirty nine fifty x the world's most powerful sixteen core desktop processor now at rb computing to thirty-five Menton Place Suite one. Oh six in bells corners. Jim Montgomery in the news again today. Oh Yeah Dallas Stars ARS head coach. who was fired earlier in the week because of unprofessional conduct? The Dallas Stars would not elaborate that on that. But there's an interesting. I'm sure this isn't it the stars you're saying that this isn't it. Amanda he give a colorful radio interview view on a Dallas Station. Last week he sounded like WH- like way out as it's going to say he sounded extremely dream Lee loose in a very good mood couple. I don't know a little couple of little knee knockers. I can't speculate on that okay but it's got was a Monte on Monte bit. They're doing so. Jim Montgomery the coach. And he's one of the hosts hosts nicknames is Monte and it was basically they'd ask a question that was very hard core. NHL Hockey question like like So what kind of a these own setup have you got. He had run in the umbrella up there. Whatever and so we'd ask very serious question? And then he would he would follow it up with something something way over the line so we take that question then question number two was it coach How much ass does Tyler Sagaing yet? Yeah seriously yeah. And then then he didn't he didn't say well I can't I don't know what you mean by Asen. Listen data and he he he. He didn't answer the question technically but he played along as well as one. Could you know maybe a more professional final moment or a dignified thing to do would be like no comment. Because he he's getting hit with this but and then he was asked another serious hockey question followed by players. Get Their playoff beards. Going do they also grow their Bush out at playoff time and then he started laughing. maniacally again so this this could be the reason. I don't know if you've got the timing. The timing lines up but apparently just according to sources that the stars have been saying no no that had nothing to do with it but the times interesting. I hope the guy didn't get fired because of that. You know I I you know I I you know I think Joe. Nemeth member the sideline interview. I think it was during a super bowl. It was absolutely hammered. Sure I wanNA kiss you that for that famous one. That's sort of the human side of these guys Steve. You know I had a few drinks. Don't yeah we don't know if that's the reason I you know this work a lot better. If that's the reason 'cause I I hope he didn't get fired because of that it's funny that's funny shit right. I mean to me I might if I'm the GM from Jim Nill. I might have a conversation of. Maybe we could tone this down just a little bit for next time you know. Let them. Yeah I saying if if that's the that's the concern that you want your head coach to maybe not be doing that on public airwaves. I think that's not unreasonable. But I do think it would. It'd be unreasonable. If that particular interview had anything to do with his dismissal. You'd say it would be reasonable or unreasonable. I don't think it would be unreasonable. Yeah Yeah there's so robotic these interviews all the time we've talked all the time right and you get nothing fanatic these guys. They're they're kind of restricted right of a very big boundary. Here that they got you know that they can go wide on right with with with answers. Tortorella for example is fantastic right. This guy says shit all all day off time tells guys to f. off you know in interviews and stuff and doesn't answer questions and You know but but he's a great interview you know so I hope not. I hope not. That's funny that's funny meltdown. Down Radio Rights Ha having. The Tara on live today would have gotten you guys all fired. I love it when Tung still cries out. KGO sends go only takes her top off while she speaks on the phone not to mention the acronym for your bit the world. According to Jim the job you used to use all the time and his term for British cigarettes by the way yeah the world what we call it. The world according to World W. A. T. J. What they call it. Oh yeah no no. What was it called? I'm going to say with the Second T.. Silent and call it twice but it's a it's a fascinating thing on social media like the way I wrote wrote this was just presenting the facts. Nothing else just the facts. I said a Dallas radio station did an interview last week with WHO that who who they identified. I stars head coach Jim. Montgomery he didn't answer but laughed and played along when asked about how much ask tyler. Sega gets and whether bearded players also growth the Bush at playoff time. At no point that I say the Dow is an unacceptable thing for him to say or do at no point in time. Did I connect it to his firing and yet I'm just filled up with like you often media with your fake news. You know what's the matter with you. I think tickets fascinating I'd say it's fascinating that Coach does something funny and you feel so threatened by you. Got a question it and peel back the curtain. So much coach coaches won't even do that anymore. I guess she's people. I need to do anything. I didn't say anything presented a fact and even did it in such a way where where I might have left the door open that it wasn't Jim Montgomery for all I know. NHL Board of Governors meeting Wrapping up this week and one of the things that was asked Gary Gary Bettman near the end of his news conference was like hey gear This new women's Hockey League guys talked about that as anybody in the NHL Board of governors discuss. This and his answer was no. It wasn't wasn't discussed in any way shape or form and that's gotta be disappointing if you're a female hockey fan or a female hockey player is they're Kinda oh hanging their hat on the NHL coming forward and putting together the other a viable league professional league where the working conditions are at least half decent now. That was kind of breaking news. WHO's a while back Bettman said you know if there's something we can do we'll get involved or something like that? Yeah well and I think that he did women's hockey a disservice by jumping out with you know if we get to a stage where there is no other women's hockey league in existence than the NHL consider creating one and to me. That may have sent a loud message like we get rid of these leagues. And then we'll have a shot at getting a decent decent league that's affiliated with the NHL. Where Batman doesn't seem to have made it a priority in any way shape or form now that basically the professional women's Hockey Association Ta Tion is two hundred women who aren't playing in a league there instead just doing these exhibition barnstorming things across North America? They're GONNA be pissed at Batman in today he's GonNa. It's not gonNA be the end of that deal when he said that. Do you think that that comment was productive from to say that which is not according to what he originally said I remember. I said this is this is this is good bettman stepping happen up saying more or less in so many words the NHL might get involved right you know. That's that's that's tremendous promise for women's Doc. But I might say hey. Let's do this. Make a comment like that. Maybe not so publicly I. Maybe if that's your policy than than fine and let's wait and see how things go but for him to have said that. It was almost in a backhanded way. Saying Hey Kill the two leagues you got and then maybe we'll talk right right. That may have been how people interpreted it. Yeah it's just weird. It's just weird that all of a sudden he gave them a blunt. KNOLL will When that's already originally said when all the ship was coming down but the women's hockey I mean the NHL is concerned mostly about what its own houses and and making sure that They've got their ducks in a row. And all that but you would think the thought that Gary Bettman after saying that or one of the thirty one governors that are at the meeting maybe the courage to somebody like. Hey what happened to that. Women's League we doing anything there. Geyser we we just say screw it away. The other. The women deserve to know of a path is happening. If they're on their way to something well I think what. It's I think what it's really saying Steve to as we are a long way away from solving the women's professional hockey doesn't look like it's going to happen right around the corner when you got the the the most powerful guy in the NHL saying no. Yeah not not not today anyway you know now the NHL is going Eh may right right so I hope that they hope they do intervene at some point because it would be nice for the best women's talkie players to have a place to play and maybe be able to do it as a job for sure behind it. You know if if they can do it but they were kind of unrealistic Steve about coming into this thing saying with that that we should be able to do this. And that people have to support this When really the problem is starts long before fans is you? You've got to have corporate support right. You can't do anything in sports without with corporate money. Yeah and you won't get that until you get fan and you don't have those other and and the corporate world has just said we're not ready for it. It's not it's not there and you can't demand something like the two Hundred Women Question Austin who who are obviously directly involved in this. Let's leave them aside here if anybody's on social media or calling into a radio station or whatever ever writing articles on their blog outraged about the state of professional women's hockey or the opportunity or lack thereof. That exists right now. I would like to ask them the question. How many games did you get to you? Get season tickets to some of these games like those are the people that have a right to bitch and moan the people that don't are the people who just sit you know it's an outrage. How come these corporate sponsors aren't stepping up? How come the NHL is not stepping up? Why aren't there more fans will? How many games did you get to right? Yeah it's reminds me of underfunded sports in the Olympics Olympics you know kayakers for. I think there were Canadian kayakers who couldn't go to the Olympics because adult there was no money you know and and of course a lot of the reaction to it as long as no one watches kayaking and that's a grim reality for these people you know. I think the women reacted completely wrong. I think they should've taken a different path. Uh when when talking about what they were doing I think I mean think of it. This way Steve Forget the fact that it's women for example. But when you when you put your foot down unlike day did and and start to say stuff like you know what we're boycotting the league this next league. We're not going to go to games. We're not you know people like Doc. Okay Right Yep yeah you know you got to be in a position a advantage here Steve. When you'RE GONNA start to get firm you know like like like you can make demands on something and unfortunately the there are no place right now to be able to make demands on anything? My guess is A lot of people who've been asked to get involved this would be some sort of relief for them. You know I God is their money to be made in women's hockey while there may be but not if you women are insisting on full schedules and X. amount of money to be paid eight and stuff like that it just. It just won't happen you know it won't happen basic business the Gossamer enough advertisers. If there's not we you can't make a go of it and that's that's the reality of it like this watch. How fast this podcast dies? If we have great sponsors right right right. Look look at look at other sports. You know that that there was no interest in absolutely no interest in over the years and now they're Olympic sports sports curling right curling's a great example. If you live in Canada where they got they got nothing. You know nothing going on right. And now it's an Olympic sport right and and the reason is not not because fans looked up and said man. This is great. We gotta look at this is because Tsn came on right and said all right. We're going to start to do this. They exposed it and a bunch of people got interested. Did you know and now it's huge. Now let us watch scalise Briars Grand Slams that are on all the time now these this Pinci sir. It's all corporate money man that that that came on to do it. Snow Cross or whatever they call it Stephen the Olympics. You know when they first did it they said this is crazy. No one's GonNa like it fucking people love it you know where the five guys go down the hill at the same time on this murderous course yep in its you know but I think step one that they need to do is attack. The one thing. That hockey fans are into Anna comes to women's sports and that's team Canada versus team. USA Say and like the Getty and try and get them on board and have them do a leap of faith the way they did with the World Juniors and say we're doing a best of seven and we're calling it The Blank Cup and It's going to be a best of seven we'll put this on. TSN And once you oh you establish something smaller like that and get people in the mode of at least for seven days seven nights out of the three hundred sixty five day. Calendar Year You're getting people to watch women's hockey baby steps and then go from there. Yes that's a great speaking of Presidents Cup and Ryder Cup. You you know that may be a great thing to do great thing to do every couple of years or every year or something has to have a women's hockey terms you know the world. They all gathered together someplace Jason City and get some TV on. That's a that's a perfect idea. And my other issue backing up to what I said. Was the women gotta come from from a point of humility here pal right. They gotta come from a stand of we gotta step gingerly around this thing. What's going to happen is someone's I'm GONNA ask the commissioner coming out of the governor's meeting what about women's hockey and he says no is exactly what did happen so another way behind again? You No way behind again on it. So I'm sure the commissioner have more to say about it But I just thought they should've dialed it back and said listen we need need people we need the NHL. I hope we can get there Without some further support without some help without us you know Engaging you know a marketing company to do this and to start at square one then I this idea that they keeps. We're not GONNA play. Fuck people are going to be fine. Ah I I've never gotten the entitlement that they seem to have when it comes to professional hockey because it certainly there's an entitlement there when you're talking about a tax taxpayer-funded thing like the Olympics and a national program will will of course that should be funded in the same realm as the men in my opinion but when it comes to the professional side will that's business now and they. They sort of carry that same level of entitlement that expectations like their hand. Out like doc you know whereas ours well. That's not how it works. There's no one going to your games. You guys can't drive corporate sponsors to your games to advertise ties on it to E. Kentucky a thing on TV so this is a different thing. It's apples to oranges. And yet they seem to have that that same level of whereas ours. The entitlement factor that they might if they were talking about a national program. I always equate it to Steve. I don't know I think at this example is me telling a bank that they were they were they. Were closing my account. Steve because certainly I never had any money in it and I was bouncing checks all the time. Hi Jim we're gonNA close your account. Is that right. Is that writer okay. I'll tell you what I'm boycotting this bank and I'll take my business elsewhere. Jake thanks a lot there you go. That's that's what we'd like. Let me get the door for you. Yeah exactly so we've gotta that'd be this stand that they're taking you know sort of a little aggressive here for yeah for something. That just ain't ready for court. Yeah I agree Final thoughts on the way. Here's your WPA heads up for today. Leaves at Calgary in a battle of teams who've been through a very interesting month. Thanks to the coaches who've now been fired that happening on Thursday December twelfth as is the Thursday night or in the NFL like lambs to the slaughter. The New York jets will be in Baltimore. 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I think we've covered everything everything we need to cover today. Yeah I have a final thought. Steve and this'll give the women's hockey something positive to take away today that they can. Maybe this will give them hope that the Yankees signed coal to a nine year. Three hundred twenty four million dollar deal keep fighting up there one guy one guy. It's thirty six million a year. which would pay for an entire professional women's hockey league so I'm being facetious? I'm sorry girls. It was a little bit of a bad crack. Well it what is that. Saint Jack for sure it's but the thing is Garrett Cole is an awesome pitcher and people will pay money to see him play. Yeah Yeah I was going to. You know we always hear these stories right massive contracts. There's other you just keep getting bigger and bigger never never never czar are a dial back on Baseball on contracts or any contracts professionals for except for the women. I guess the poor girls but SORTA going. How do they have that kind of money? Steve I was looking it up. You know I said what are the Yankees and some of. It's kind of complicated with revenue I sharing and all that and I don't want to get into it. 'cause embarrassed myself but the big difference is how can the Yankees pay so much money and the Yankees like the Boston Red Sox. They've got their own. TV network. which is makes makes the big difference in all this from what I could read quickly this morning that ah how did they do it? Google in there so much dough you know so think of that you got your own. TV network and you're televising one hundred sixty two times a year right. Yep So huge money. Huge money the the the media the deal that the Yankees would have their own TV network. I think they'd have to be like because their payrolls around on a two hundred and thirty million a year it would have to get to about a a billion dollars before it would become a story to me where I'd say. Where are they getting their money? Give a billion dollar payroll that'd be that would be my threshold before would start being a concern. Turn to me. It's going to happen. It's going to happen you know. Tiger Woods is was apparently or maybe still is. I don't know the first billion dollar athlete with with this guy's endorsements that he had in his heyday and stuff maybe a little less now but but it's back. Who was the politician Steve who they almost lynched him because he got up and said they need to give a million dollars somewhere back in a a long time? It was in what. Yeah what's a million. Just give it to someone freaked out. Yeah it's what's two hundred million these days. There's a big story to where you know. Some guys You know here. In the city of Ottawa he won the Lotto six forty nine. Last Ninety he won twelve million dollars. Isn't that the craziest thing in the world. Can you imagine Agean twelve million dollars. Yes says about a thousand pro athletes. Sure that's right. Yeah Yeah Yeah. In fact it's the follow up to a bunch of those stories. If you're into pain is watch all those people pissed it away away. Oh we have one to ten million. People somehow confined there with a burn through that. I guess I guess I could So anyway just great crazy crazy story so that is that the big contract going right now. Stephen Sports Um there might be some in the NBA. They're all around that mid thirties mark the NFL quarterbacks some of the STAR NBA guys ought Garrett Cole. They're all around that mid thirties range for the most part. I'm not sure number one is. He's here's some you can take away from today's show Steven income big money and I guess the the total revenue for a major league. Baseball was six point three billion last year six point three billion the NBA. MLB's life's good crazy money. Well of all the shows we done so far. This is certainly one of them. That's lame Steve. That's so old that expression all right. Praise mcdavid you're right about you in the freshness department up good night everybody. We'll see you UH.

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Dallas Morning News 10/30/20

The Dallas Morning News

03:59 min | 9 months ago

Dallas Morning News 10/30/20

"Good morning it's Friday October thirtieth I'm Mary Hildebrandt and here in the top stories from the Dallas. Morning. News brought to you by audible expect plenty of sunshine today with a high of sixty six tonight will be partly cloudy with a low of forty five. Our Top story is Dallas District Attorney. John Cruise Al is asking for help identifying people who may have videos or Photos of protesters who were shot with projectiles during downtown demonstrations. Earlier this summer many major cities across the country including Dallas are facing lawsuits after protesters were shot with less lethal rounds and jailed following demonstrations after the main twenty-fifth death of George. Floyd. In Minneapolis in a news conference yesterday the District Attorney said he needs the public's help to track down evidence or people with. Information stemming from separate incidents on May thirtieth the second day of demonstrations in downtown Dallas win three protesters were seriously injured in Public Health News Dallas County reported six, hundred, fifty, six more coronavirus cases yesterday all of which the county considers new four new cove nineteen deaths were also reported labs either report corona virus cases directly to the county health department or to the state. Health Department, which then relays the information to individual counties of the confirmed cases reported yesterday Dallas, county health officials said two, hundred, seventy four came from the states reporting system. The rest were reported directly to the county health department. The latest victims were to Dallas, men in their eighties, a Cedar Hill man in his forties and Grande. Prairie man in his fifties all had underlying. Health conditions in business news verizon is expanding its five G. Home Internet availability to include parts of Dallas and eleven other cities beginning November fifth, the Home Internet service will run on its high frequency meter wave network customers who by five G. Home Internet can expect peak. Of Up to one GIGABIT per second depending on location with typical download speeds of three hundred megabits per second true five G. wireless connections have promised blazing fast download speeds able to download a movie from net flicks in seconds rather than minutes and reduce Mike Times across data transfers that could foster widespread adoption of emerging tech like ar and VR. The service will cost existing verizon customers, fifty dollars monthly and seventy dollars for non-customers, and finally the stars officially announced yesterday that. Rick bowness will return as head coach after he led the team to the Stanley Cup final for the first time since two thousand bonus was the interim coach since December tenth when the stars fired Jim Montgomery due to unprofessional conduct stars, General Manager Jim nill said, the contract was a two year deal. Yesterday's announcement wasn't expected one after both Neil and owner Tom Glory Express during the playoffs that the organization wanted bonus back after the season. Neal. said the team was moving forward. Bonus was going to be the head coach. The two sides simply needed to agree to a deal and was announced yesterday. The Dallas Morning News rewards program is proud to bring you. For more information and upcoming events please visit rewards dot. Dallas. News Dot Com for more on these stories and for the latest breaking news visit Dallas News Dot com thanks, and enjoy your day. Grab your coffee and start. Your Day with. Whatever your favorite genres writers or format you can find it all in one place on audible. Are you looking for true crime stories? A sports enthusiast, a comedy lover, mystery van whether you want to be informed, entertained or just relax with a great listen. We've got you covered with audiobooks, podcasts and exclusive on originals. The new audible is your playlist for life download the audible APP to get started.

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After 37 Years, Rick Bowness Gets His Shot

The Lead

15:55 min | 11 months ago

After 37 Years, Rick Bowness Gets His Shot

"The. Dallas Stars have made a somewhat unlikely run to the Stanley Cup finals under interim head coach Rick Bowness who took the helm under unusual circumstances back in. December is a decision that seems to have caught everybody by surprise but rick bowness he is now the interim head coach today the Sean Shapiro on how the Thirty Seven Year coaching veteran has righted the ship in Dallas and why so many People are rooting for him toys the Cup he really is one of the most beloved figures in the hockey world and I think a lot of the people look at his journey and they see him with this opportunity as a head coach something that he had really had before to be head coach of a really good team like this, and there's a lot of people that are really happy for. From the Affleck I'm under scelzo. It's Friday September. Twenty fifth, and this is the lead a love your resiliency that love your competitiveness I love your. Spirit. It felt like something. Great. There is something about the emotion. Because You can't pay. This isn't a story. In diary the athlete. It stays with you. So, Sean, how would you describe Rick Bowness? He's kind of been like that grandfatherly figure for the team but you know every coach has his own personality and every team takes on the coaches personality. So I'm a different guy than monkey he someone who's been part of the kind of the fabric of the Stars Organization for full two seasons. He really made the stars feel like family. More. So within and that's something he did even before he was ever the head coach, they call him bones bones would ask how they're doing. He would check in with them ask about how their families are always had a smile and he's always been that really positive person who said, you know what these are people and we're going to have a good time we're going to enjoy ourselves. As far more listen. So proud of you guys unreal. Gone again, you kept fighting a love, your resiliency love your competitiveness love your team spirit. Great. Joy and the stars of treat that grandfather on the bench almost in a good way makes any sense yeah. It makes perfect sense and what is players and the people around him have to say about him what's it like to play for this guy? Many of them have talked about how much it would mean to win the Stanley Cup for Rick bowness a guy who has been around this sport for so long Jimmy Ban has said he's the type of coach La, your body on the line for us on a great job with us you know he's coach just WanNa. Do Everything for layer body on the line for you know he's one of the best answer of good things about them. But for me, it's the actions when the stars one game five against the Vegas Golden. Knights. Corey, Perry, who is only in his first year on the team the game winning goal. He goes fishes it out of the net and brings it over to Rick Bowness to deliver it to him you go back to January, and there's the event where kind of went viral were troy Aikman is Teri after Jimmy Johnson gets inducted into the football hall of fame. Honored to tell you that you're going to be the three, hundred, twenty, eight. Favor. Your legacy is going to be in Canton Ohio forever. And the stars were watching that broadcasts conversation comes up. Is there any coach that you'd ever feel that way? You see the emotion Troy Aikman's having right now in Mataya Mark Stars forward basically went and said, yeah, you know what? I would feel that way about bones. Good happen for him whether we want a cup or something like that. That's the type of emotion I would have and I think in this bubble setting that's been so valuable to the stars because every team has a coach there but not every team went into that bubble with coach that I want to win for this guy not just he's telling me what to do and China, it seems like part of the reason, the players and coaches like this guy so much that he's a hockey lifer, right? He's been in the game for a really long time. Can you just give us a quick sense of his career arc? He was an okay player. He was the guy who played some NHL. Games. But spent most of his career in the minor leagues and always knew he was going to stick in the sport it was going to be in coaching. So it wasn't a great skater, but I could play my position. I was responsible defensively it's why I hung on for never. Heck. It was seventy eight years Winnipeg was where he kind of I was on a bench and spent some time as a head coach. There there were stops in Winnipeg. There were stops in Maine as an aide. She'll coached there was a stop in Boston where he the head coach there and actually took the Bruins to the conference final. But was let go after season. The statement was well rick lacked that sort of knack for head coach. He's a good person. He did a decent job, but there's some kind of intangible thing that head coach has to have to be a good head coach and it's unfortunate for Rick because. I think that statement kind of followed him around and kept him as an assistant for much of his career because you combine that with the tanking of his record by Ottawa's expansion teams. This was by far the worst team in hockey it lost thirty four of forty, eight gangs it wound up with only twenty three points. Total and the sense would still miss the playoffs and created a bit of this by where he's a really good assistant coach. But maybe not the guy for the head coach and I think that would come up. There's Times where he would interview other head coaching jobs and would be a finalist would never get it and I think. that. Well, he maybe he's missing that final piece. You can't really go through the hockey world to find a team that doesn't have some connection to Rick bowness because when I'm traveling covering the stars in the regular season, it's a common occurrence to see rick bowness after a practice or morning skates see two or three guys from the other team come over just want to talk to rick because there's always these connections. With him, he really is one of the most beloved figures in the hockey world and I think a lot of the people look at his journey and they see him with this opportunity as a head coach something that he hadn't really had before to be head coach of a really good team like this, and there's a lot of people that are really happy for wreck. The head coach of the stars in a pretty unusual way. Can you walk us through what happened and how Rick bowness handled that situation on December tenth I was on the train heading down to Dallas for the morning skate I got a text that something was going on with stars coach Jim Montgomery. A couple of minutes later, the news drop that Jim Montgomery was fired for unprofessional conduct was determined that there was a material active unprofessionalism contrary to the values and standards. Held by the Dallas Stars Organization there was nothing legal. There was no implications like that but he had done something so heinous and we still don't know exactly what it is. Jim Nelin among armory no would it is, and they've kept that secret but he did something that basically led to his contract being voided in the stars. Union, a new head coach in the middle of the season they needed a voice and they needed someone who could step in and say, okay, we're going to calm everything down. That's who rick. Bowness was it's huge shock for you and for all of us to come in here this morning and find this news stepped in calmed everything down and he helped guide through that they're cold reality of it is we have a game to play tonight and we're men were professionals, and this is what we signed up for and is much of a distraction as it is. We're going to have to set it aside and get ourselves mentally and physically prepared to play tonight the new. Jersey. Devils are good hockey club big law. Goes and coaches stars to a to nothing win against the New Jersey devils that to me is kind of a perfect gaps of what rick is able to do. A lot of home security companies trap you with high prices, tricky contracts and bad customer support. So out of all the options out there, there's only one no-brainer simplisafe simplisafe has everything you need to protect your home with none of the drawbacks of traditional home security. 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See why upstart has a four point nine out of five rating on trust pilot and hurry to upstart dot com slash lead to find out how low your upstart rate can be checking. Your rate only takes a few minutes that's upstart dot com slash lead. So Sean I. Think the stars of surprised a lot of people by making it to the Stanley Cup finals and they've knocked out two of the favorites along the way the Colorado Avalanche in Vegas Golden Knights how from Your Perspective Sean Has Rick Bowness manage to take this team this far I. Think one of the things that the stars have done in the bubble is they've become this team that plays to the other teams weakness. Crackdown for. Click. To the triple. Training. Camp Rick, kind of put his stamp on the team of we're GONNA use are defensemen to play more offense. SHOT SCAR Hurst came. The other thing that Rick, spin able to do is he's been able to take and make those adjustments from series to series where Dallas could play to Colorado's weaknesses could punish Colorado defensively and it was okay to open up a little bit. Shows. And then against Vegas team that likes to get a lot of shots able to allow them to get a lot of quantity but take away all the quality. I. Caesar shot. Just plain to the opponent's weaknesses frustrating the opponents that's what rix allowed this team to do, and then the other thing that can't be ignored. All of this is throughout the bubble. It's always been about the people before the hockey players. What I mean by that is he has always taken a step to say, okay. How are we treating these humans that are away from their families that are? Quarantined in basically secluded from the real world. How do we make sure that they know that it's okay to feel like a person everyday living in this bubble it's a challenge and we said before we got here the team that handles this day to day grind in the bubble. Is GonNa be the best chance to win the Stanley of very proud of our guys they've handled this and to me? That has been such a big tone that's really resonated through the team added to the hey, let's go win a championship for bonus feeling within that group. The stars are up against a team in the Tampa Bay lightning that's loaded with talent. A lot of people think should have won a Stanley Cup by now and they seem exceptionally hungry and focused this year. What are you going to be? Watching for over the rest of the series Sean Yeah I mean one of the Great. Mind Games of all of this is you have rick bowness going up against John Cooper Rick Bonus was on John Cooper staffer five years. So there's that great kind of coaching battle. The other thing with Tampa that you kind of look at is, can Tampa Bay force the issue? We know. Tampa to be this. High Flying Offense if team can they force the stars to kind of buy into that series and turn it into more of a track meet because if the series turns into more of a track meet Tampa would be thrilled. The stars on the other hand would love to keep it more of kind of that drag it out counterpunch type series. That's what I'm kind of watching for us what. Style prevails in the end because it's like old boxing cliche right styles make fights as we get around four, five, six, seven of this stick with the boxing cliche who's going to be able to set the tone for the style and looking forward Shawn. What does the future hold for Rick bowness their interim head coach? Will he just be their head coach next season? No matter what the result is. In this series up to rick, I'd love to be able to give the exact answer because I think rick bowness. The only one that knows the exact answer in his head Stars Gender Jim Nill has said you know what Rick has earned this job he's earned having the interim title removed, but he wants to sit down with Rick and see what Rick Wants Rick. bowness during the stoppage before training. Camp before the stars came back the bubble. There is a bit of a feeling in a bit of question internally of whether Rick Bowness wanted the fulltime head coaching job each sixty, five us near the end of his career in theory. Would he be more comfortable with an assistant job and I think personally kind of reading Rick's body language and talking to people around the organization he wants this job. into the bubble in working with this team and having the success has kind of given a little bit more of that fire of what I can be the head coach and I can have this kind of final act of my career and for that reason, as the stars beat writer and Planning on covering Rick Bonus for at least a couple more seasons to the head coach I've already put that notion in my head and Leslie Sean Do you think that Rick bowness has proved the doubters wrong. Do you think he has shown that he actually does have that intangible thing that people for years have said he didn't. I think he has I mean there's always gonna be the hot takes on twitter about this guy's is time that guy's ice time or whatever. But I, think Rick has proven that he can adjust e can handle a bench. She can make those decisions that with the team, the best situation and I think that that old notion she probably be killed off by now really the only thing missing from his career is a Stanley Cup. There is no one else who's coached more games and spent more time in the game than him as a coach and really it's that last thing that he's just trying to bring home is a Stanley Cup. Sean, thanks so much for joining us and enjoy the rest of the series. Yeah. Thanks for having me. You can follow Sean Shapiro's coverage of the Dallas Stars at the Athletic Dot Com. Thanks for listening this week our senior producer Matt strout production in fact, checking by Ian Hurley. Sound Design and mixing by Lynn Joe Richardson and Aaron May or theme song composed by Lindsey. Graham editorial director is Kavita Davidson. Our executive producer is me on. The show is executive produced by Marshal Louis and air on Lopez for wandering. From wondering and the flick I'm under scelzo. See you next week. 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Blues 2021 Season Preview with Jeremy Rutherford

Scoops with Danny Mac

16:49 min | 7 months ago

Blues 2021 Season Preview with Jeremy Rutherford

"Welcome in to scoops. With danny mac dot com remember daily daily columns from burning nicholas. And you can read those and also sign up for his letter. That'll come right to your inbox. If you don't wanna go to the site every day any forget to go to the site and you want to make sure you get the bernie content. Just sign up at the site at scoops. Houdini mac dot com. Enter in your email. It'll be directly delivered to you in just a moment. You're going to hear from jeremy. Rutherford of the athletic have to tell you about the doctors a blue tail medical group. Some of the nation's top experts in the fields of sports medicine and stem cell regenerative therapies. When people hear about sports medicine they think disabled list or surgery. It's gonna keep them out a long time. Doctors base crane wolf experts in stem cell regenerative therapy and their doctors from all over the country that travel right here to learn from them. 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Finish that six game series loss to vancouver in the first round but a lot of changes to talk about a lot of excitement and looking forward to get going. What do you think of just the season in general and how this is going to work with protocols how they've set up the scheduled testing for covid all those things. How how do you think this is. Set up for the nhl. Well they're doing the best they can dan but this is going to be a lot different than the public success. They had an attend toronto. that was sealed. The players did not leave the bubble We know that they thankfully had zero positive tests. Neither bubble the entire time quite a success story or the nhl. But this is different. The players balked at Going back to a a bubble situation and so what we're going to have is Teams playing in their home cities. And they've set up. The schedule is such where you're gonna go to. La you're go to anaheim. You're going to go to san jose just like you did before you're gonna play two games against those teams and you know it just to retract part of that San jose not the sharks play home. They're so they're still looking for a home but the point being you're gonna go to these cities and play multiple games. They're trying to cut down on the The health concern that way in terms of the blues. Coming off the bubble. They weren't very good there including goaltender jordan bennington more on him in a moment but just the blues getting the rust off. Really for the entire. Nhl even for teams at weren't in the bubble but for the blue specifically. How do you think that translate in translates into a very quick training camp and then a drop of the puck against colorado on the opening night. Yeah i think they realize now that they just weren't prepared for the bubble. They wanted to get to their game quickly but they just kind of took that whole build up to the bubble cana casually like we'll be able to turn the switch and they never did and i think they found themselves down against a good thing couvert team and then the just couldn't recover but i think they've turned that page and the biggest thing is. This team is so different. I think if you're bringing back that entire roster and and maybe some hangover because face it you're going to be playing empty arenas still in. The blues admitted that that was tough for them. So i think if you had that exact same roster back you'd probably reassemble here and say gosh. Last time we were all together. That was tough. We're gonna have to to play a lot better but you look at this roster and a lot of new faces. We're going to see mike hoffman. We're gonna see the crew. We're going to see some Fresh rookies coming into To the the lineup. I think you look at jordan tyrod. Maybe he some more time. Robert thomas in top six billion usos going to be the backup goalie. A new captain with ryan o'reilly sudan. We're going to see a completely different makeup. And i think it's gonna make it a lot easier for this blue team. Turn the page. So they lose petro but they pick up krueg. you also add hopping. I would assume that really really helps you power play it really does this power play is going to be fun to watch and let's keep in mind that they were number three in league. Last year that was under marc savard. He's assistant coach was in charge of the power. Play a lot of success. It was fun to watch marks hard leaves after one year with blues. Jim montgomery comes in the former dallas. Coach he's gonna be in charge of this power plant while armstrong signed him. Some tools by coffey went forth in the nhl in power play goals at believe. It's the last four years and tori crew. The past couple of years is number among all defenseman with power play goal. So he's been a terrific in boston. Of course lose got to see that during the stanley cup final. So he's going to have a lot of weapons the question. I have enough pox to go around. It's a good thing that Vladimir tarasenko is gonna miss. You don't look at it like that but flavor tarasenko is out there. He wants to power play. What's the puck It's gonna be tough with all the shooter's lose. Have jeremy rather for the atlantic. Is my guest turning the page on petro. What do you think that's going to be like a new captain. Obviously a guy that logged a ton of minutes in different situations but just turning the page in general. Well i thought you know if you lost alex betraying slow. That was going to leave some sort of shock throughout the first couple of weeks months of the season i really did but we all know what kind of leader ryan o'reilly is so. I think i talked to craig ruby a couple of days ago. Dan and he broke it down into two parts. He said that's with alex. On the ice they bring in tory kirk and he's not the same type of player but he can provide you that offense so they feel like tori groups can help fill the void with Outfit change will leave and in that aspect and then with the leadership group. Alex patrols bennett. Great captain we saw what he did that. Second half of that stanley cup season helping steer that ship after being in last place in league but riley has been looked at as a guy who could wear the c. Since he's been here in saint louis he's going to have good leadership with and shan with colton perico and so i think the blues at least according to craig pike ruby feel that they can fill that void. What kind of player is to recruit in your opinion. His terrific Phenomenal offensively is exactly what you want. Today's nhl He's undersized so that kind of forces his hand in terms of being a guy who can jump up in the rush those passes but then strike like he's got a great shot and he can play physical even though he's an undersized guy and the dan. I talked to a couple. Nhl coaches for a piece a week or two ago at the athletic. All of them said tori group underrated. Defensively there's so much focus on his lack of size that you just don't give them enough when you're watching them play defense. If a larger defense makes a mistake you say all he made a mistake to recruit bakes it. You say it's because of his size he might not be a top era guy who can play twenty five minutes a night but he's a guy who can definitely give you top four minutes. Lot of focus always on the goaltender. But in particular jordan bennington who did not play well in the bubble but prior to that was having a good season so he's in the final year of his contract. This a big year for him isn't it it. Is you know after that stanley cup There was a lot of debate. What he signed a long-term dealer would they go short terms and they didn't necessarily talk about that long term. They decided to go with the two years. This'll be the second year of that contract for jordan bennington and i wouldn't say that he has a lot to prove because He wasn't good goalie last year. Thirty wins one of all three goals in the league that had thirty wednesday but in terms of having the spotlight solely on him. There's no jake allen back them up anymore. I felt like Jake coming in last year did a phenomenal job. Just holding things together. When jordan was playing great. Will dixon montreal now. After the trade and the backups. Villy you so. He's dressed up for fifteen games in the nhl as a backup he's never played. He's a fourth round draft pick. Who's a good prospect. But we're going to have to wait to see until he gets in here. But even if you're a talented jordan bennington it always helps to have somebody behind you pushing it and we don't know about bill yet so we'll have to see but a contract year for earned bennington fifty six game season. He's going to have to carry the load in terms of how they you know with the schedule. Condensed a lot of games in a short amount of time in how they approach using these goaltenders it's not the days of grant fuhr playing every game which reportedly saw him play every game So how how do you think they approach using the goaltenders in in terms of you know three of four four out of five those kind of things. yeah. I talked to craig ruby about that just a couple of days ago. Dan and he said that the early part of the season just going to be a feeling out process remember. They have ten sets of back to back throughout the regular season. So they said the craig ruby said what they'll do is it'll be a feeling out presser early on in terms of bidding probably the bulk. Spot start billy hugh so what he's like but then at some point they're going to get to a situation where they map it out. And that's typically what they do. When they have to veteran netminders. Like bennington and jake allen cut map it out a couple of weeks in advance other not there yet with who so they wanna see how he looks early on before they get to that stage of the athletic my guest the blues starting training camp. And i wanna ask you about ryan reilly getting the see a loved his comments Saying hey this is a new role for me new way to look at leadership your approach on on. What you've seen with ryan riley is is now the captain of the blues rhino riley. To me the guy who was basically born to do this. And i know that He's been with a couple of other teams. Were probably that leadership was in question. Arena rally in fact in buffalo talked about losing his passion for the game. You know people might here by comments and think. How is that a born leader. But this is a guy who ever. Since i saw him show up in a blues uniform has done everything he can on the ice off the ice taken younger players under his wing. I've seen a lot of things behind the scenes. That are just too many to go into detail with each of but a guy who doesn't mind taking the extra time to to show everybody the right way to do things and i think that's exactly what the blue's looking for. Doug has made the comment when you worry about the team or than yourself. That's who they want wearing. The rhino riley is completely deserving of this honor in terms of just a player. Gimme a player that you're excited to watch. Come out of this little camp and maybe the start of the season has a different role and you think in a merge. Is there a player that you're kind of targeting that you really wanna see well the one that comes to mind right off. The top here is is robert. Thomason always been around three seasons. This'll be the third season. He is Showing glimpses of being a terrific player a star in this league. I think he can be. And i talked to craig ruby about him. Said willie opened up camp and a top six. Rowley said yes. I said craig will be at center. And he said yes. He'll be given that opportunity. It's his blue. So this is what fans have been clamoring for a couple years. They'd like to see him playing with tara cinco. They won't get that early on with tarasenko out of but robert thomas if he starts on one of the top two lines at center you'll see a lot of happy fans looking forward to seeing what he can bring this season a couple more questions. I'll let you go. Great in terms of vladimir latimer tarasenko. Do you think the best case scenario is for him in in two thousand twenty one. Well the best thing is that the fans don't like to hear this but the fact that the season was delayed you know if they would have started in december you would a missed a at least three months of letterman cinco and potentially more. But the fact that the season won't start until january thirteenth sink goes reevaluation. Timetable is in february. The blues are gonna take a look at him at that point. That'll be five months post surgery. That doesn't mean he'll be ready necessarily but in the past two other surgeries That timetable has been pretty accurate terms that get back at a acid slipping into a game so we saw what happened. Last time. he wasn't quite completely one hundred. Percents needed the other operation but if they can get him back sometime in february march he isn't gonna miss as many games had started that in december. It's going to be fun to see how this division plays out. You got colorado. We know they're very good. The blues are very good. I can't wait to see the blues. And the golden knights with petro. Now with vegas. How do you think this shakes out in that division. Yeah a lot of debate. I know one fans. I started to hear where that the blues are going to be in the pacific division. They were really upset. And i understand why losers central division teams centrally located up but the one or two of these teams in fact had to go out to the pacific to make it work. The blues were in favor of it. Talked doug armstrong. He likes the fact that once you get out west. There's not a lot of travel in between cities. also they like the fact that if there's a off days which they're going to have that they're gonna have the warmer climates. Be able to do some things with the team but in terms of the competition you gotta think that its top heavy. It's heavier than we see in that central division you have vegas and colorado terrific teams in the central you have tampa bay and then it's everybody else after that so they're they're gonna take the top four teams in each division. Dan so you gotta let the blues chances making the top four out west and then it's going to be a dogfight against those teams like vegas in colorado but man you think about seeing alex betrays the ryan reaves eight times of battle. That's going to become over. The course of the season these night might not be natural rivalries. You're gonna miss the in chicago for the first time in decades. You're not gonna play nashville. Don't get a chance to to relive the detroit red wings rivalry up but this is a situation where these teams are going to play so many times ensure blues fans are gonna get sick and tired of seeing that golden knights local and that avalanche logo near a couple months. How will the blues handled the taxi squad. In terms of what position they'll carry in howard teams approaching that type of situation. Yeah so you're gonna have forty players forty players in camp. That's a thirty six skaters and and four goaltenders. And then by opening night you'll have to get down to max twenty-three roster you'll have six on the taxi squad. This is going to be a good thing for the balloons to have those extra guys around that we all know the reason for it is because of a covert unique guys on hand who are able to jump into the lineup. If need be. Just fly. Out from st louis to la. Get him in the lineup. So they'll have that taxi squad but will also be a craig rupees disposal to call guys offense taxi squad just like you're calling a guy up from the minor leagues activate them. You'll still have waivers and same situation. You'll go through during a normal regular season. But you'll have the guys with you on the team. If you wanna make some switches that could bode well if say a guy like scott part of it is on that taxi squad they wanna get a look with big clubs. He'll be right there. What are you hearing a wrap it up with this about fans in the stands in saint louis eventually and then fans in certain municipalities Down in dallas. You're in texas or if you look at the florida teams are you know. They're they're opened up in many states at least partially. So what are you hearing about. Fans generally speaking with the nhl in the buildings and then fans with the saint louis blues some arenas are going to be limited capacity and some are still in a situation where they can't have fans at all and the situation with the blues. They've announced that they won't have any fans until Late january at the earliest. So you're looking at about four home games where you expect no fans and then they could. Could i stress could open it up to limited capacity. You know dan. I know that Early on that's what everybody is going to be looking at work. Can you play Who's who's gonna open it up to fans up at big question. Mark here is throughout the season. You know what kind of kovic situations are we going to experience or are they going to have cities or teams have to shut down their home games. Because of the cases you could have a situation like a city like kansas kansas city where it's just a city that can host some games. The that's been talked about. So i think once they get rolling That's going to be the bigger issue keeping these venues open and eventually if those numbers go down and they're doing a good job with the protocol and keep them as many people as they can't healthy then slowly but surely getting more and more fans back into their and that's the great. The great news about this is that the nhl is back. The blues are on the ice. Training camp has started. And jeremy rutherford back at it with the athletic loved your work during the shutdown and during the bubble and waiting for hockey continues at the athletic hey. Jr appreciate your time. Thanks so much anytime. dan thank you. Jeremy rutherford of the athletic.

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PGR: Detroit vs. Dallas January 26, 2021

Starcastic Remarks-The Only Dallas Stars Fan-Led Podcast

27:38 min | 6 months ago

PGR: Detroit vs. Dallas January 26, 2021

"Hey guys this is mike madonna. You're listening to start casper. Marts on free sixty five sports radio network still with okay. The countdown to everybody star cast remarks. Podcast is the first one deleted. Yeah thanks so much. Riverside and i did not work very well. Okay anyways Stars one hockey game overtime and somehow jason dickinson did something other than exists. Hey ryan tell me. I'm wrong man. He's my man your raw me to may want it to make it less okay. We got like i said last podcasts. That got deleted really exist and it doesn't exist if he gets a goal in the next five games i'm going to be adjacent dickinson fan. But it's totally not going to happen. It's not going to happen at all. Because jason dixon does nothing little only had to shoot it in an empty net was an empty nets cap. It sorry no. We was not a half empty net. That's silly and stupid. No one else is silly and stupid you jason dickinson days. Dixon is not stupid. he's my mail today. he's not silly stupid today. i love him. You know you hear that jason. I hope you listen to this podcast. Chris doesn't like you know. I love him leno. No no no no. You don't like him. He said he's he's just exists. He's there yes. But today i love him. Because he's scored two goals uh-huh he scored a goal. I told you had numerous opportunities like you. New possible no. He had three opportunities where he screwed up on the shot he just lifted or something but on a it today he didn't with it he did not with today all right so anyways i said three games so i'm mickey each year. She's going to score another goal in three games right now. Happening yes it is happening. Our rights All right and most notable player of the game that clinger. You like clinger jaw cougar. He had a goal. He had a beautiful assists. Those dangles were nasty. Dude absolutely built nasty. Yeah the shot was absolutely beautiful. I mean you couldn't have asked for a better shot and took literally took four seconds for the stars or score on the power play and that's all we need it. We just need to go on the power plant. We score a goal so that makes so out of our out of our wiz at thirteen goals. Or is that toggles. Oh no idea. Twelve thirteen one of the two k. We have a lot of goals and not a lot of five five goals through our play so ten of our thirteen goals or or nine out of our twelve goals whatever it is have been scored on the powerplay and we have three other goals. We had the esa lindell shorty. We got the jason dickinson Three on threes. So that's not even an even strength goal. It's even shrink. No even straight this five sides are even no no. I don't i don't count. i don't count it. And then the only five on five goal we have is the one radulov a tip not the super pretty one but the one that it's just as pretty with a backhand and automated air only five. That's the only five on five goal. We've had so far this season. Which a little bit cause for concern to this point. But i'm just happy that we won the game three and for the first time since two thousand ten two thousand eleven season and we're missing four of our top scorers. So go figure is dumb. All right yeah. So that's another thing. We talked about that We have a lot of players that are either injured. Or just you know go at protocol or whatever so go through those so out of nowhere today rope hence decides to get a lower body injury There's no information at this point that we know of we just know it's classified as lower body injury Maybe they have something on the post game show on fox sports. Southwest in the and brian Savvy we'll talk about it but we don't wait that long we bring you podcast immediately. Well except when they screw except when they delete and then we make another one immediately right and then all right. So that's ropy then jason or jason jamie jamie. Benn looked like he was going to make his return tonight but no score so he practiced in the morning. Yeah yeah he's skated in the morning and then didn't take warm switch. Which kinda let us know that he's not going to be there tonight. And then that means he's probably likely on thursday though i hope so we'll see We're also out our our best score from last year. Tyler sagan he's out for good period of time until is he. Is he the one. That's supposed to come before bishop one of them's martian in april. I think he's in march nothing to and then So those late march. That's three of our top scorers. Three of our top six for right there and then and then give your onto that nicosia atop six forward this year too so keep your head as well and then pro arguably the most important bottom six forward blake comeau out to cause a covert protocol so again once you say that i think he skated the these. Get this morning as well. I think he's gary this morning as well but he just didn't play in the game tonight. I think i don't think he's scared. I think he's still technically in quarantine stuff. I'm not entirely sure. So then what did i see on twitter. It's ended like the the made it. Sound like the. He was sorta kinda i dunno. I dunno it's weird. They won't tell us either. So and we're also missing one of the best goaltenders of the past decade. Who has been a vezina finalist. Like time ryan whatever. Do him so so with all of that. We have some guys named right gardner. come in. And tanner kiro who come in as well and they played pretty well. They probably fairly decent for some depth guys in the stars. Get the two two one overtime win tonight so Lots of good stuff to see from this team and You know maybe. I need to eat my words with jim nell and He's been a good gm and he's gotten the right guy so far so and it just seems like this is like a perfect culmination right now. These players that we have and then the coach that we have just happened to become the head coach because of extenuating circumstances with jim montgomery and the perfect gm yet. And that's that's why. I was so like upset last year during the playoff run and everyone said like oh this is the last chance at the stars. Have like if you looked at the young guys we had. There's no chance that was our last chance like the guys we have coming up are fantastic dilemma andrea. Who haven't talked about yet had second most time on ice for forward. Well technically. We did already talked about him. But you know and the and the non existent podcast. How many times when we can we show stuff against whatever keep going sorry. Eighteen eighteen minutes fifty seconds time on ice. And he's a rookie thing. That's the that's incredible and he played outstanding. Like if you watch the game you definitely noticed him. There's no chance you didn't notice him and he he was playing great. Great for check made great passes played well in the power play played well on three on three. I thought so. He's been outstanding gardner and carro for being nowhere close to nhl last year. They're playing very well from being thrown into the into the mix that fast even ding pyzik pick did decent as a forward so right and i mean he was my no most notable person tonight not pyzik but andrea like most noticeable. Not on the scoresheet machine. Yeah so he. I mean he's still got. He said still do really well. And like you said he was all over the ice and it seemed like he was Most noticeable two shots on goal two hits a block had to take away his face off percentage is exactly fifty so it he's he's making his marks on the dallas stars team right now so i'm really impressed with what i'm seeing from him and also the last guy who definitely deserves a mention who hasn't gotten it yet. The greatest goaltender to ever live anton khudobin nine fifty two save percentage tonight. Stop twenty of the twenty one. He faced in the one that went in was just a fluke that the guy puck chopped in bounced off skate and right to a rookie in front of the net. So that that's pretty khudobin's been outstanding. The past three games like we've kind of glossed over that but he totally could've just been decent and we would have accepted it because he's not a starting goalie really but he's been outstanding playing just as good as he did in the playoffs if not better well and the thing about Khudobin is and what we didn't get win. The emmy and lennon were goaltenders when we spent all that money like over ten million dollars on these two guys was when we had those guys and we had the offensive flair. That we don't have as much now. I mean we still have decent offense. It's okay it's not top ten but we're getting the goals when we need them is that we're getting that huge. Save when we need. It does that that was the that was the biggest turning point in this game and if he had not made that save on that power play the last five minutes in the game we would have been screwed and it was a huge save and not to mention not. It's not just that safe but he did it just last game against the predators. The predators had a huge opportunity and he absolutely stoned the predators on that shot. And everybody knows what i'm talking about. And i merged game in the first period. The predators had multiple chances that have gone in and started the game off in a completely different direction. He's made big saves in every game. He's played and that's definitely true. That let that lebanon and the emmy didn't have that because their numbers are decent when they were with us but they just never made the save that we needed but khudobin and bishops seemed to always make that save. They always stop the shootout or the breakaway chance. When we need it they always make the big pad save in the final minutes of the power. Play those guys are just clutch goaltenders and both of them fight crazy hard. They both are digging for the number one job while both understanding. Who really is the number one. So i think having both of those goals. It's fantastic right. it's awesome. We're super lucky with it. Honestly i mean can you imagine if we khudobin go. Yeah i mean. I don't think. I think it would have happened anyway. And we probably would have brought somebody else in because of j. conjures not going to become the starter of the stars right off the bat. Gone after you know lundquist or crawford or holtby or one of those guys may be in free agency but We jus- two losses right. Exactly exactly the. We haven't talked about the last two podcasts. But that's definitely true. Anton khudobin is outstanding. Get an in the playoffs. He's kind of flying under the radar slightly. I mean everybody knows how good he is now. So it's almost like they're that expectation is there that he's eating those as and he's doing he's meeting exceeding it so it's fantastic and he's definitely earning his paycheck man. Absolutely fantastic love khudobin and like you said ninety two. Save percentage twenty to twenty one shots he saves. he was six for six on the on the power play when he was in when he was needed to be big. He was absolutely huge While the excellent job. And this is what i was saying during the during the preseason right like one guy needs to go off and get big for. This team has done that. Pa- veliki has been. That guy tonight is switched tonight. John klingberg had major hands and both goals scored one at basically scored the other one and khudobin being on his a game. Just makes it so much easier like these games have been solid like even. This game was close. I still felt like we were gonna win it. It didn't feel like we were going to lose this game. And that's a confidence that teams who are in the top tier in the league. They have that confidence. And i think the the only reason the stars have that is because they went all the way the stanley cup final. If we had lost against calgary. I don't think we would have had this same confidence that we've started off with. We have four top scores. We don't have our starting goaltender. We had a defenseman play forward this game and won the freaking game and i know it's against detroit but still still doesn't matter. Detroit is still in nhl team. It's not like they're ahl team. They've still won two games now. It's out of seven but still who cares. They've they've been an okay team. I got him into somebody else that I think kind of kick started the whole game for the stars My boy justin dowling. Yeah it was definitely very noticeable. Yeah and he was. He added that He was entering that line with. I think it was him. Gary and a dickinson the three of them. So the first line went from jamie. Benn gary on off and hence to gary on just in delhi jason dickinson. So go figure and he. He had that a that really good individual efforts starting at the beginning or the beginning was probe towards the middle of the first period and drew a call. And that's kind of what got it wasn't the first period of the second period that really got the stars started and he i mean we. He's not one of those guys. It's going to go and you know pull out. Those highlight reel goals and everything. But he was the one that gave us that gave clambered the opportunity to shoot the puck from the point without telling that wouldn't have happened. He's he's the perfect display of the stars dip We have the best step in the league. He has fifteen minutes time on ice. Which for deaf guy is stupid. He had a fifty six percent. Faceoff percentage which is very good for someone who doesn't play. every day. He played on the power play. He played on the penalty kill. He was a forward he. He played everywhere and he did. He did a great. He had two shots on goal at hits he had blocks. I mean he's just a great depth player and he played it so well and that's what he needs to be. He knows his job and he does his job amazingly it were so lucky to be still have them in know the teams have picked him up right and he hears another depth for will. It's not really depth forward but six four hundred another one. That kind of stood out to meet tonight was ugly. He was all over the ice tonight. We expect that from cogs though. Honestly that's true. But he was. He was thrown a couple extra hits that he didn't have kids big kids. Speaking of big hits klingberg almost had that huge hit in the head check in. He missed it but still delirious and I really wish he had connected with that. Hit though because that would have that would have worked so o. N. he no here. It is again pavelski again slides under the radar. Not rosenberg. we're talking about tonight. But he said prevail ski. Oh you did. I'll but anyway three games. He's on a three game point streak. Yeah and he's deadly the leader of this team right now to write offensively especially like we're out been sagan and actually come is one of the bigger leaders in the locker room from stuff that i've read and heard about a. Yeah we're out. Three big leaders and joe pavelski Is able to step in and he. He really looks like the leader on the ice. So it's really good to see. It really helps when we go in. I get those people from free agency. Who had been former captains and stuff like that. And i seems to be a thing that jim nez. He went after spitzer. Who former captain. He went after No joe pavelski. Who's been a former captain and especially at times like this when you know when covert ads hurting hurting teams and we're getting a bunch of injuries and stuff like that. And it's showing up for the stars tremendously and very lincoln out While also one more thing well these games they kinda look bad like two to one against the red wings like would you have that many guys out. You're trying to survive. What as many games as possible. So this is the way that when we have guys out that we're going to win games we're going to scrap these games out and we're just gonna work harder than the other team and that's what we have to do that. So we're gonna have to do every game until we get our goals scores back. So hopefully they get back quicker so we don't have to keep playing hockey like this but it's fun to see less skilled guys grind out a win. Anyway they can. So let's enjoy it while we have this and then will enjoy a pretty hockey gin leader. So is there anything that frustrated you tonight. There are a couple of things that frustrated meet tonight. But was there anything that stuck out to you. It just felt kinda like people weren't meshing well so especially the said. He expected to which is to be expected yet. 'cause all the line sheffield so much so many people hurt but especially the second power play unit. They had. They didn't really know it was going on. Which like obviously because they don't play on the power blade but they never played together. Yeah and in the four check especially in the first period was very bad right that see. That was the thing that i was going to point out is. In the first period there was a lot of dump and chase which again was to be expected in dup dump and not really any jason. We will and we would if we did chase it. We winning the puck battle at all. Yeah yeah we would go in. We'd hit the corner. There'd be a couple of little scuffles down there and we would lose the puck battle in the first period. Got better in the second and third but it still wasn't where it needed to be. Yeah it definitely got better at the game. So i think i'm hoping that's just younger. Guys kind of they were kind of feeling out the game and they got they got into it. Better but yeah. I think it'll get better as these younger guys. Play more games all right. Here's another thing that's it's not really frustrating but it's more of a a noticeable thing that's not very good Heiskanen heyman has looked a little off to start this season which which kind of leads me back to the whole. Go thing and i think that he might have been more on the ones that are that kharkov it and actually showed symptoms and stuff like that because yeah because he was still one. They're very recently got off to one of the last people to to go back and join team practice. I think like two days before the first game is when he practiced again right and he does. He just looks a little off It he's not doing. Hey skin anything. So that he he did in the bubble or that he did last season There are several instances. Where you and i both were On the discord channel watching the game together and we were both like shoot the puck. Shoot the puck and it was hey skin and hair skin and has a better shot than klingberg. And yeah angie. She just takes it. He takes the events when they give it to him which is what he should do him in gurianov hence like get a chance to shoot should shoot though. It was weird seeing him not a. I'm hoping that the coaching thing. Like you get some film in front of him and he show like why did you shoot here. And then he'll you'll figure it out. So i'm not too worried about it because i think hagans outstanding player so i i'm not fine. Yeah i'm not. I'm not trained to rag on the guy but it it. I really want to see him do well. Because he's hit the final year of his entry level deal so he's gonna get paid. I mean he's gonna get paid If i had the guests You know money wise that he would make somewhere up in the six seven million dollar range po quite possibly i mean Esa lindell is up five point five range and at least yeah and i just want to see him do well because you know he's skin de that'll pick up soon right so and then the last thing i wanted to talk about With some not really a frustration but again another noticeable thing and i've already mentioned it but is the lack of five and five goals. I mean it's great that we're scoring on the power play and everything but eventually that's gonna go away like the and it kinda did today. You know hot weiss now. I think we were. What were we won for work for yet. Which is still great. I mean there's twenty five percent but that's not sixty seventy percent. That's sorry it's not. It's not seventy percent so at some point the stars are going to have to figure out you know how to get more five or five goals and that whole shot from the point that we did in the bubble. I'm not seeing very much of that. And even razor mentioned this in the game is at the very beginning of the game. there's two there's too much east west movement. You know across the ice rather than up and down so in that again that goes back to dump and chase you get the puck. You win the battle. Take it out to the point lead. Hey skin are claimed berg or even alexia lexi been pretty good and i've noticed him Not wanting to get on to the offensive side of the but But that's how we score goals. That's our offense and we need to get back to that if we're going to get more five on five goals so That's just something. I a couple of things. I notice from the game which as fun as it is to win. There's always something that we can do better so in conclusion. The stars are on a three game winning streak right group. Yeah it sounds. Like i'm sitting here complaining about us on like a four game losing streak or something. We need to do this and we need to do this. And we're on through game winning streak with four of our top players out and are starting goaltender and a defensive line playing forward on fourth line as can't believe that that's a great game. Oh man okay. So let's i got a question for you chris. I think this is gonna be interesting. I thought about this does often. Jer get has opportunity to start on thursday. If you're rick bowness would you start him. Know really why because khudobin's been outstanding and you don't mess up his rhythm i just wanna see him. Get a start against the team. That is not expected to be a high octane. Offense like can you imagine. Starting him against tampa bay or carolina or something like that. I mean if there are verse back to back team. I would say do it either way like i know it seems kinda got seems kinda rude but like we. We should use him in the spots where we need them. Most and where we need a most is in the back to back games. So whatever those happen. That's when we should use them. It doesn't matter if it's against tampa doesn't matter if it's against chicago so i i think. Unfortunately that's what we're gonna do. Well here's your here's your opportunity The back to back against carolina is coming up the thirtieth and thirty first this weekend. So i think you get into play that sunday. You're probably right and that's an awkward start. Four o'clock on a sunday matinee. Yeah big that's not even a early matinee. That's the guy in the middle of the afternoon. Matinee that they have been trying to spread out games on on sundays Trying to get full days of hockey so that's cool right so and you know something real quick. I noticed just about the nhl before we wrap this whole thing up because we we actually been talking for a while now So i didn't even know this. But i'm just gonna mentioned this out just in case those people that are not In the knowledge of this but the the nhl purposely did this so they put almost all the games on tuesday thursdays and saturdays sundays. So that leaves open wednesdays and mondays right so like yesterday there was one game on throughout the whole nhl and then tonight there's like thirteen and everybody was wondering well. Why are they doing this. And why this is so confusing. And it really isn't. Because i think what they were doing is they. Were getting themselves ready. Just in case they had to reschedule some games which they've already had to do for the stars and further carolina hurricanes so That's why they're doing that. And i pretty smart. I couldn't care less. Let's play hockey right all right. Anything else chris That's it stars. Her good clinger good green. Good fun right dummy up so that we we haven't really mentioned much but we have joined an online sports talk radio station. Three sixty five sports casts and you can find our live radio show on thursdays at three o'clock and we talk anything dallas anything that we want to with the nhl and Yeah anything else. S spree yet is free so go listen to it. You can go to three sixty five. Sports cast calm and on your computer or or to our. And there's an iphone app. There's also the android app so you can go on and listen on there. And they resist sports cast and there's a bunch of other great shows on that too including in a pickle which is one of my favorites and it's about a. It's a baseball shows. I i would highly encourage all to go and check that out. It's not about the ranger so we can. We can listen to it. It's okay it had. We listened to a podcast about the rangers in old slodkowski. All right guys. i'm ryan along with chris chris. This is sarcasm remarks. You can find us where we get your podcast on apple podcasts. Spotify google iheartradio wherever and you can also find it on youtube. Going like us on twitter. Stir casting are and also on our instagram. We have separate youtube videos to go. Watch those yep working on those in my dad's getting a little bit crazy right now. But i'm doing my best trying to get some more Youtube videos up. Therefore there's also a new video up there about the pierre luc d'ivoire trade. We'll talk about in our radio. Show on thursday so levy guys appreciate it and we'll catch you guys watched up the flipside go stars. Go watch on thursday.

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Jim Kwik | 10 Ways to Improve Brain Power

You Can Heal Your Life

17:40 min | 8 months ago

Jim Kwik | 10 Ways to Improve Brain Power

"Hi podcast listeners. Have you heard about the. Hey house unlimited audio mobile app. It gives you unlimited access to every. Hey house audio. That means you can listen to endless hours of audiobooks. Meditations lectures and more tell you transform your life enjoy new releases and treasured classics anytime anywhere. While you take your morning. Walk washing the dishes or before you go to bed whether you want to improve your sleep expand your mind. Connect with your spirit guides. Heal your body or simply needs some motivation to reach your goals. Everything you need is right at your fingertips and with no credits or limits and truly unlimited listening. You'll never be short on inspiration. You can start your free fourteen day. Trial now apple users visit. Hey house dot com slash apple and android users visit. Hey house dot com slash google. Hello everybody it's re- tracy. Welcome back to the you can heal your life podcast. Today's episode with my friend. Jim quick who just released his book called limitless. It's a new york times bestseller instantly. Everyone's loving this book and it's getting amazing reviews from people using it and jim. When he was a young kid he was known as the boy with the broken brain. He had trouble learning. He didn't fit in in school because of that struggle learning and as he grew up he found out better ways to learn and his whole passion has been sharing those like he helps people learn. Better learn quicker improve their brain and he goes all the world speaking about. This is one of the main people that gets out there and talks about these kind of things with audiences all over the world. Big companies like google and. He helps actors like a lot of famous actors. He helped all the x. Men people with their lines which was a big thrill for him because he was such a superhero fan growing up because he wanted to be a superhero because they kept calling him the boy with the broken brain and he wanted to fix that. But i think you'll really enjoy this interview that i recently did with jim. I'm going to teach you some of the nerve. Science research is saying ten things you can do to improve your memory. Now when i go through this this is again something. That is common sense but as a coach. I'm going to remind you that you should be putting more focused probably than you currently are so make this interactive. What i want you to do is on a scale of zero to ten as your take notes on this to write down. How much attention am i putting into this one category. So i'm gonna give you ten ways to improve your brain power and we know that when we talk what age everything else that about. One third of your memory is predetermined by genetics biology. One third at means. Two-thirds is in your control. Now depending on you know your your understanding and leaves around a around. The different sciences people believe we. Have you know like epigenetics in everything that we have complete control. At least we have two thirds control so there ten things that move the needle in those two thirds who go through all ten and what you're gonna do is raise yourself zero to ted in terms of how much energy and effort attention winning. They're so ready. The first one is a good bring diet is what we're essentially doing is. The book is full of software. This is how to do all these things. you also have to take care of the hardware. Which is your brain right. This is how you take care of your brain. You feed it a good diet. Where some of those foods avocados blueberries On brain berries that rain neuro protective broccoli. Olive oil very good for your really vegetables like kale and spinach. If you do eat fish. Wild salmon you get your. Dha's as your omega threes of had also from other sources also for that amazing tumor. I h morning or a lot of mornings. I'll make like a tumorous with almond milk gold and knelt and put a little pepper. It helps you to absorb it better. It's really good to lower inflammation also really get your brain walnuts and Dark chocolate dark chocolate is good for your mood is good for your mind. So good brain diet. Remember this what you eat matters especially for your gray matter okay. What matters especially for grammar literally becomes you number two second thing. You could do to improve. Your memory. Is a chilling outs. Chilling an is actually clinically proven to be good for your memory. Now obviously Answers is an acronym. I borrowed this for dr daniel eamon who a doctor and stand for automatic negative thoughts automatic negative thoughts remember. I said your brain is like a supercomputer himself. Talk program will run the Tell yourself you're not good at remembering names. You will not remember the name of the next person you meet programmer supercomputer not to your mind is always eavesdropping on yourself. Talk if you knew how truly powerful your mind was. You wouldn't say or something you didn't want to be true. And that's not the sea of one negative thought in ruins your life any more than just one one doughnut. What is the consistency. Don't come to me. An idea depends on the type unto me said jim montgomery into old Smarter i've horrible memory. I would say stop. If you fight for your limitations you get to keep the all right. You want to monitor yourself talk if you catch yourself saying something negative like that. I don't have. I'm not good at remembering names. Just be conscious of it and put a little word like yet. The not good at remembering names yet. So that's killing us number three. He's really fast. Three is exercise. The primary reason you have a brain is to control your movement as your body moves your brain ruse logic saying go to the ymca ywca on saying that. You have to move every single day even if it's not intense exercise you don't wanna have that sedentary lifestyle you move your body. Rain derived neurotrophic factors. Beat the nf which is like fertilizer for new brain connections right and so when you move your body groups of rain groups everything gets better when you're moving and so uh a scale of zero to ten. How much are you how much effort you putting hordes move eating going for a walk during lunch in his fresh air and some sunlight getting grounded. Very good for you. A number four. The fourth key to improving having this limitless brain that we talk about is the are rain. Nutrients rain nutrients. And i always let me say this. I i'd rather you get your nutrients from food. That's my preference but if you're not i recommend going to functional medicine doctor had nutrient profile done and then seeing if you're latkes view again you learn a great technique to remember a toast at the wedding or something to do for work but you're lacking vitamins. You're lacking fight. had been. He got the h. As then you're not going to be at optimal performance of brain nutrients number five is something called positive. Peer group in this is why i love the. Hey house. Unity i love. Hey house events gatherings basically the idea for your brain is who spend time with this who you become. Who used time with sweet become from neurological reasons if because you have these things called mirror neurons mirror neurons of which all your imitation neurons. Have you ever watched television. Show or you're watching sports. You could feel the characters are feeling that your imitation neurons right. And so what happens is if you're spending a lot of time with people you start adapting and adopting their same languages air same bought ads a lot of their same eating habits and they're moving habits right and that's why who you spend time with his. You be they say if you spend time with nine growth people and be careful. 'cause you're going to be number ten so you really wanna maintain your your your now. Here's the thing your friends and family You know they they can love you and but you'd also sometimes it's our friends and family that people we love that we give them the power to hold us back and this is a kind of really like a raw conversation that i know. Some people can identified. This they don't have the power back you give them your sovereignty power because of. Maybe they're saying things like. Are you watching another summit. You while you're reading all those books. Why are you going to that conference all the time and doing meditation or yoga you know and maybe they're coming from a good place. They don't want you to get hurt. They don't want to get your hopes up. Maybe you're progressing in making progress. And they don't wanna lose you. It could be sincere but they can be sincerely wrong right so choose a positive peer group. We all need somebody to encourage us to challenge us to educate us. Cheer us on. If you haven't found that person be that person somebody else and especially be that person for you. This is a lot about self care and self love where we have to re fall in love with the person in the mirror who has been through so much is still standing so positive peer group. You can still love your family. Love your friends but choose the people you want to have influence on on how you feel about yourself at number five number six of clean environment clean environment is good for your break. You know this. Because if you've ever fiend your bedroom or cleaning kitchen or clean your desktop on your computer. You have clarity of thought right. Easier to think so clean environment. Make sure you clean it. Organiz organs varmints organize my number seven sleep sleep is such a big one for a lot of people and it really affects your memory in when you get a poor night's sleep next morning had how are you thinking. How's your focus. How how's your ability to make decisions. How's your ability to solve problem. It's it's very challenge. So i would say is optimized your sleep make sleep priority is when you sleep for your brain. You consolidate short to long term memory. And that's very important is if you're having a long term memory issues check out your sleep in even asleep study. A lot of people don't realize how poor their sleep is number two for your brain when you're sleeping. When you clean out clap beta amyloid plaque leads to brain aging challenges like dementia and so sleep is so imperative optimized asli and in the book we do pages upon pages of of some of the best rain hygiene sleep habits That you could do number. Eight is clean. Sorry for number. Eight is brain protection. I had three traumatic brain injuries. Growing up and i would say protect your brain. Protect your children's brain of wear helmets because your brain is very. It's resistant is headed. It's it's resilient but it's also very fragile so take your brain and finally number. Nine and ten nine is new learnings. Commit yourself to learning something new every single day other the study on long jetty with these nuns i call them super nuns because they're living ninety and above and they found the researchers found out that half of their devittie came from their emotional facing gratitude but the other half they were life long learners because they were learning every single day it added years to life and light to their years. They did a research. Study is aging with race aging with grace beautiful on the cover of time magazine so commit yourself a lifelong learning which obviously are doing right now and i would say the best kind of learning in my opinion in my research read it. Reading is reading to your mind would exercises to your body and so i highly recommend rub. You read his if somebody had decades of experience. Like i've been doing this for twenty eight years may put it into a book and you sit down and read that book and a few days. You can download decades in two days and that's a huge advantage and it's great exercise. Your mind research has shown that when you when you read fiction reading to get it gives you an it. Boosts your e your emotional intelligence. Your level of empathy avenue enhances your imagination in your creativity and also your focus because a lot of times people can't focus is always on their smart devices in every light. Share comment had videos training distraction. Reading is great focusing sites as well and then finally number ten had suggestion. I have optimizing in really unleashing. Your brain stress management chronic stress. Shrinks your brain. When you're in stress you create horror saw an adrenaline. It puts you in a fight flight which is not good if you need to take a test. It's not good. If you need the help your grandchildren's it's not good. If you need to perform at work so on a scale zero to ten how much energy and effort are you already putting towards stress management. What are your coping mechanisms. Are you meditating. Are you getting some body worker. Energy work on a regular basis. What are you doing to be able to are you are you scheduling some white space just to walk around in nature. What are you doing to be able to really reduce that stress it can be in that para sympathetic rest and digest place now the ten keys at you. We all have control over right in any of them. Don't cost anything right at stress management or just taking care of our sleeping and monitoring ourselves talk or people who were with you know or you know just just being up this moving around and so it's wonderful. Everyone wants to know. Hilas book is a limited. There is no mark. Dr mark hyman wrote the ford of the book. He says there is no pill to genius with. Jim gives you the process for better brighter. Brain in future and that that's really a not a pill. There's a whole process that zimbabwe. But it's very simple and easy to do in it's proven will i said you. You have twenty eight years all in here and even if you skip to the speed reading section you can learn how to read it really quickly and remember because like what what what jim talked about is like five pages of the book like i know. It took thirty minutes to get the five ages. But there's three hundred pages here and he covers so many different things you that you can practically put into Work in your life. You know like learning quicker reading more is not only going to improve your brain. But it's going to help you and many other aspects of what you're doing and and gyms even help superheroes remember better. He's he's been on the axeman. Then you help the x men with remembering their lines and learning how to Read their scripts quicker. And i know you are a huge superhero fan. And i think you gave a talk and then they invited you up to the set new hill. You work with a whole bunch of people. Tell people a little bit about that. I mean i believe there's a superhero and all of us you know one of the endorsements we have for my work was elat stan lee. Who's the co creator of the x men and empathic boring vendors. You know. I take in this book The hero's journey. I'm a big fan of joseph campbell's hero's journey at in the book even laid out a way where you had the option to be able to go through and learn all these amazing things where i become kind of your your yoda if you will. And you are less skywalker or are you your or your dorthy. And you're the main character and we go through and we unleash each of your superpowers because as we said this is the. It is such an important skill if there there was a genie decade grand. Anyone wish anyone wish. What would you wish just one you would ask for infinite wishes right millions of wishes now if i was your learning. Gb and i could help you learn any one subject or anyone's he'll just so much easier. Why would you would you wish. Or what would the equivalent of asking for infinite wishes. It would be learning how to learn because if you can learn how to learn better and you could apply that towards everything you grant all of your own wishes right. It's this idea. Where if you give give a person an idea. Rich their life teach a person how to learn bacon enrich their own life and the lives of the people around and that's the superpower.

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Rick Bowness

31 Thoughts: The Podcast

30:10 min | 1 year ago

Rick Bowness

"Ten nine eight seven six five four three two one ten twenty thirty forty alongside Rick Bowness head coach Dallas Stars. Inter one two three four five six seven eight nine ten rick bowness Dell Stars. I'm giving him the promotion head coach Dell Stars told to me any favors welcome once again to a special edition of thirty one thoughts. The podcast Elliott. This is our feature interview with Rick. Bowness Dallas Stars head coach and this is a gentleman who thought the beginning of the season. He was going to be the assistant coach for the entire year for a Stanley Cup. Contender guess again. You're the head coach Yes That was a morning shocked of us because we were at the Board of Governors. And we ask them the night before the commissioner and the deputy commissioner is there anyone else under investigation and they said no and the next morning. We found out that Jim Montgomery was out and Rick. Bowness is in so I don't know who was more surprised at bonus or everybody else. But he's got them humming now. I think they're pretty good. Dallas was my preseason Stanley Cup prediction. And I don't believe you ever change as long as it's still possible but I feel a bit more confident now than I did. Maybe in October. He's a guy he's a coach. Rather that's really comfortable in his skin. You can tell that. This guy's been behind the bench more than anyone in the history of the NHL. Here's Rick bowness on thirty one thoughts the podcast brought to you by GM Sierra trucks Elliot. Please be joined now by the head coach of the Dallas Stars. I know he wants a interject here and say interim head coach but are you giving him the promotion now yes. As far as I'm concerned that goes the Dell stars he is. My vote is more important than Jim. Nils Sorry Jim. But here's a new bench boss. Fulltime Rick bowness joins US thirty one thoughts. The podcast now something. We've found out right before we started. You were once a real life Reggie Dunlop and had the jacket to prove its I was. I was a player coach in the American Hockey League. back in one thousand nine hundred eighty two eighty three. I believe what happened was Ron Reset had been named the head coach of the American Hockey Winnipeg jets were moving their farm team to Sherbrooke Sherbrooke jets and run. It had a brain tumor removed in July so he was not ready to start the season so I was the captain of the team and basically a playing assistant coach anyways at that point in John Ferguson senior the GM at the time asked me to go until Krabi. Christmas as player coach. And I didn't know what I was doing so I said sure I can do. That doesn't sound hard way over my head so as little as I know now and a lot less than but I so I was player coach and I would come off the ice and I would stand behind the bench and then I would bench myself for a lot of this is so but I was a player coach. Unfortunately Ryan was unable to come back so I did finish the player coach of all the players that you've have hold on one second because part of this is televised and we have to give a shout out to the cash Jews. Podcast which is Kevin B and Ryan Kesler because without them. I wouldn't have known this but you had a Reggie Dunlop Jack and for those who can see this on Youtube. This is not what happened is not it and I took so much abuse those two that I had to retire it. My wife bought it. She laughs she loved it and I worked for a little bit but again the verbal abuse on those two guys. I couldn't take it anymore but I did were when I wasn't around them. I love that jacket. It was great it was very comfortable. Didn't matter what it looked like. It was very comfortable. Hey Comfort is more important of all the players that you've had and you've been behind the bench for a number of years. Who could you see as a Reggie Dunlop there? One or two players. You could say you know what this guy could be a player coach. Oh there's quite a few that could do that the one guy. I'm glad he's got into coaching his Alex Burrows Great Hockey Sense and great hockey mind and very very competitive so I know. He's an assistant coach with the Montreal Canadians. At one point. He will be a national hockey league coach. And if you talk to Daniel and they'd say who is one of the best players you ever played with it would be Alex burrows not drafted worked his way up so he had the character he had the work ethic and yeah they determination and he had a really good hockey minehead. Really good hockey sense out there. So could he have done that absolutely and I'm glad he's got into coaching. The game needs more coaches like Alex. Burrows who work their way up the hard way Wasn't given anything. He was never deterred from this. He just kept pushing forward to me made it and when he made it he never took it a day in. Italy for granted worked very hard every day any brought in every day and he knew how fortunate he was. A plane are league. Because it's always tell our players today. It's truly a blessing to plan our league every day. Never take it for granted so Alex Burrows would be the guy that I would say definitely could handle that quick. Follow up on boroughs. How did that conversation go to put him with the cities? I don't know if he kinda just fell into. I don't remember but I do know that it fit and as a coach. Sometimes you can't define chemistry but you can see it and you could see the chemistry between Alex and the twins play with the twins. You had to be patient and you had to know you weren't there I look. You are always their second or third. Look with the puck and you had to know where to go and Alex had that ability to read off of them get to the right spot go to the Net and knowing that he could be wide open with with Hank with the puck. But he's looking for Danny first and then you're getting the second look but he had the patients in the hockey sense in the field. How to play with them? They were just great chemistry. There and and Alex was a gritty guy. Like people don't understand like he would take the heat and he'd go in the corners he'd go to the net and he takes a lot of the beating But he never complained and just just fit when you coach boroughs were you. This complementary to him I coached the deed or free concerts. But he he did help our penalty killing a lot so I dealt with Alex Allot in. Yeah but you'd never get upset at a guy like Alex because he knew he was given you everything. Every day there was never an issue or Calix. We gotta get going here. You GotTa do this. You gotTa Work Harder there. There was never an issue with that so I didn't have to deal with that. Was there anyone you ever coached? Who Then went into coaching? And you said I cannot believe. This guy is behind the bench. I never ever would have thought it. Well coached so many over the years. I'd have to give that Winston thought. I'm sorry. Yeah but no No no one jumps out at my mind. No there's a lot of guys that I didn't coach Ted. I'm shocked got into coaching. Or I know one guy who yeah. Let's talk about him. Travis Green in Vancouver and every time I see him he always tells them poems. I must've drove you crazy as a player and so it is Travis Green Travis again he was. He was a smart hockey player. Really good with the pocket offensive. Instincts didn't have the greatest practice habits. Alright but then so I know the work ethic. You need to be a coach in this league but at and give Travis a lot of credit. He went to juniors insistent. Koji learned the hard way. Another guy that pays do so. I'm very very happy for Travis but again every time I seen he said bones. You must've Georgia crazy as a little bit at times. Bruce Boudreau says the same thing like I once asked him. Like what would Bruce Boudreau? The coach of thought about Bruce Boudreau the player and he goes all I would of hated him. I want to get to the Dallas. Stars here Willis second but I WANNA rewind to Tampa quickly. I want to focus on two defencemen so speaking with someone awhile ago about yourself and your time in Tampa and the first thing this person said to me was he saved Brayden Coburn's career before I ask you about Victor Hedman. What did you do with Brandon Coburn? That's that's a good question. I'm surprised to hear that because when we got brayden coburn what you could see right away was a big guy that could skate great mobility in a very competitive guy. I think maybe his role changed when he came to us. Tampa was looked at as K. You GotTa go there and play twenty five minutes in the power play do everything I think. Maybe the role that he had to play when we got him But what you love about Kobe that he could play right or left shift to shift. It never bothered him Again Great Mobility for a big man very competitive very cultural and a guy like Kobe. Sometimes you got to go find guys. Okay we got to look at some video here that Koby come to me and say let's look at some stuff so he. He knew he wanted to get better. Knew he had to keep working and keep getting better to sustain the League and which he did and so. I'm Kinda surprised to hear that because we I never had any issues with with Kobe. He was a good player when we got him. I think probably most of that is based on his role. I don't know what the expectations were in the role of with his other teams It's none of my business but I do know when he came to Tampa. We need a big. I stay at home play. Defense be physical and could move. The PUCK and Kobe fit the bill. The other conversation we had about tax defense was Victor Hedman and this person said Rick. Bowness really helped this guy flourish by becoming his friend more so than just teaching top down. He became Victor Edmunds Friend. And that built that trust with headman that allow them to flourish your time with Edmund to help me with that. Was Matisse Olen because only in Vancouver had a great report with him and then he signed with Tampa so when when I did sign with Tampa talked a lot about with aboard victor. He said he's had a lot of coaches when a young player comes into our league and has three or four or five coaches. He's here in three or four different voices different approaches. He said he doesn't really trust coaches so soon as I heard that. Okay that's interesting so my first approach with victory didn't talk hockey. We just talked family. We talked off I stuff. We didn't talk about coaching as a player. I knew I had to build is trust before we could even delve into the hockey so I spend a lot you again. You're not spending a lot of time with them away from the rink but every chance I get I would sit with the victim. We talk and and again it wasn't about on ice stuff. It was everything but on ice stuff. I knew I had to build a report with. I knew I had to build trust and you could see what a great player is going to be. He didn't realize it but we could see it. And I've I've seen this victor all the time. I've never seen a guy narrow league. That is six foot six. That can skate like Victor Hedman and does all the great things that kid can do. I think he just needed to trust somebody. And you need to know that we had is back and that we were there to help them. Not just to you know. Throw our philosophy on them all the time I had to build that trust and I had to let him play. There was instincts and we just Kinda. We had that relationship that eventually there was a solid trust in today. Like victor like an adopted son to my wife and I we just love the kid and we still stay in touch the mind. Victor headwinds one of my all time favorite players coach and just a wonderful kid but again he's like a like his son to me. What was the topically said titled Family? Is there anything in particular that you guys realize that you had in common and interest or something like that that really got the relationship going? He was very proud of his family back in Sweden. His older brother played in the league's over there in a very proud of his parents. He knew the sacrifices they had made having my son. Ryan plane the OH L. for four years was drafted and didn't make it and we talked about that so I think it was more based on family than anything and then we start to talk about his career and where he wanted to go and it just. It took a couple of months But well worth it. I want to talk to you about this year. You're in Dallas the year. You know. You're the associate coach interim head. Yes let's not forget you're the head coach. I promise I will stick to it for the purpose of this question. I know I'm not going to dig into what happened with you but I'm curious. About how much lead time did you have like all of a sudden? You're the head coach of the team out of nowhere. How much lead time do you have and how do you get things back on the rails because they could have gone right off for the stars? At that time. There was no headway into this. It was just walked in the morning. And you're the way we need you to be the German head. Coach floored absolutely floored. Never saw it coming wasn't prepared for that one bit so no one saw it coming and all of a sudden the whole the whole coaching thing changed So no there was. There was no preparation for that. I just kind of said okay. Okay it took a little while to get my head okay. What am I GONNA do now? But I've been around long enough to Fortunately that yeah okay. Now we gotta we gotta approach things differently here. I've got to take a whole different approach to dealing with players dealing with game perhap- dealing with media dealing with everything and was it a little uncomfortable at the start. Absolutely you gotta remember. This was not a job that I wanted to wanted. This wasn't a job that I applied for. They've asked me to come in and finish the season as interim coach okay. We can do that so I was expecting this absolutely not was I looking for it absolutely not. That was the last thing in my mind. But okay so tom and Jim asked me to do this. And now I've got to do the best job I can't now in saying that it took a while to get comfortable because first of all when you're socio coach assistant no one wants to talk to. You. It's great I can hide the background which I love him. A very private person so not being in the limelight. I thought was great. I just coach the defense coach. The penalty kill work imports. And that in no notice and no one to talk to you and I thought that was great now. You're you're dealing with a lot of noise like I like to say around the coaching and I found that difficult for probably the first month that okay. I've got to get used to this like I've got a. I JUST WANNA coach. That's what I love doing his coaching. But when you're the head coach in the NHL Today compared to. When I was the last time there's just a lot more involved. There's a lot more around the team. There's a lot more noise around the coaching fraternity today. And I had to get used to that and honestly I'm just I don't know how many how many games coach doesn't matter. It was Dallas as the head. Coach is just now getting to be a little more comfortable but that was the biggest change for me being taken aback by the whole thing that developed as quickly as it did walk in at seven o'clock in as assistant in the seventy one year the interim head coach. What were this compromise? And so it's taken Awhile when Your First Head coaching job? Your stars were del. Howard Chuck and Thomas Team. How does it compare dealing with Dale Howard? Chuck and Thomas in nineteen eighty six to dealing with Tyler Sagan and Jamie Ben and two thousand twenty. Well the the difference was that I had actually played Dale and Thomas when we drafted Dale back. And when dad? You have to daily eighty-one so I played a little bit with Dale and I played a little bit with Thomas because now from the minors and then I was an assistant coach for three years. Right I had a good rapport with those guys prior to me coming in his rugged and that was in term when they fire Danny moloney coming into Dallas. I had no idea of you know any relationship at all with Tyler Jamie so again. I had to build a relationship with them and again now. My role is changed. The title has changed. My relationship with them has changed. I'm far more involved with them now than previous because just coaching the defense and coaching the penalty. Killing didn't have a lot to do with them. You know you talk to them as as a coach every day in a friend anybody day so now I've worked hard to develop a strong relationship with them and listen. I know there's been some criticism over the past about them but not scoring this and that both of these guys. As far as I'm concerned their hearts in the right place they WANNA win. Maybe the numbers are what everyone expected in based on salary based on whatever with their hearts are in the right place they WANNA win so my relationship with them is based on on that and I have a lot of respect for their character a lot of respect for what they bring to the ice you mentioned coming to Dallas and right away there were two defenseman think. A lot of people noticed right away. Their game went to a new level with you. Handling the defense Was Esselin Dell and the other is Jamie Alexia. How much did you look at these two players and said there's more here and I can get it out of them well with With Esa if all the you know when I went there last year you watch video over the summer to get a feel for the guys you don't I don't know anything about Dallas. Really really played them once or twice a year. And that was it and then when you get to work with them of all the players that were in Dallas. He's the best of them in terms of I didn't know what I was getting. And how good player he was. He's much better player than I realized. You know. He's a wonderful wonderful person. Great teammate but this guy is he's what you want from. As a coach a guy that shows up every day he works every day as a great attitude and he brings it every day but again a smart player you can play in any situation against anybody and for a young guy in all of a sudden his minutes went way up and his responsibilities went way up and he's handling remarkable meanwhile but it speaks of the characteristics of his talent with Jamie last year when we got him didn't know much about him either and it took a little while he was a healthy scratch. A couple of times then we got him settled down and we got him playing his game and we last. Jamie in the playoffs against Saint Louis and it was noticeable. When Jamie was not in our lineup. Yeah he brings a physical presence in another big guy. That can skate. Never Culture book hit and he's very laid back guy. There's no question about that so you work with a guy like that. Don't bring that personality on the ice. We need you to be physical. It's not a natural instinct. But he responded and he's confidence just grew and so. I had a conversation with them this year in training camp. I don't mind sharing with the guys that I went to Jameson Jamie. We've got to get to the point. Where the coaches aren't discussing. Are you a healthy scratch for you in the lineup like there were not behind the scenes talking about you? If you play the way you we know you can play. That conversation will not happen. That's up to you that's to me that's up to you to go on the ice and do it every day. And that's what he's done he brings it every day and He's a huge part of our team. Now being healthy scratch when we first got him to where he is today. There's both ends of the spectrum. Listen this guy can play. And he's a big help to our hockey club and a wonderful guy good teammate. In fact there was a game a couple of games ago. Somebody took a run at Miro while I was guys lasts up against the boards. Jimmy wasn't very happy about that but he understands now his importance to the team and he enjoys that role that we've given them. I wanted to ask you a little bit about the coaches association and when you first started there was nothing like that and if you ever walked in and said like that time coach to say we want to start a group you probably would have been blackballed. Well let's go back to the eighties. Yes those conversations did take place and we did try to get something going and we in some head coaches lost their job and so is this. Yeah they did and I know I'm aging myself for that. But some coaches in. That was never proven. Obviously that they were fired because we're trying to get an association goal. You guys do like in the green your we needed to get it. We know the Players Association was gaining strength. We felt at that point. We needed something We didn't have any pension benefits back. There was here's your salary. Take it or leave. It like we didn't have any strength so dissociation. Today has done a remarkable job for every coach. Not just at our level but anyone aspiring to be a coach because all the information in terms of salaries is there for you and it just opens up more doors that we haven't association so he can contact other coaches. So there's there's more interaction between our coaching now than there coaching fraternity. Now than there ever was in a lot of that is base because of the Of Our sociation. The you know we we talk about salary information and they've done a phenomenal job just getting every imagine that now we're just getting to the stage that every coach. Inara league now has a pension. We never had that before. There's probably forty percent of our coaches weren't even involved in any teams pension so the fact that we have an association now that will go to bat for us and fight for us as a group not just one or two guys which was the case before three. Markle that the steps that we've taken but it's not just the pensions to health benefits. It's you want your green card. Your visas any. Help your wheels anything you need. Our Association takes care of that. We've never had that before and I've been coaching this league. Nineteen eighty-three and and I tell my can Lindsey they. They've done a phenomenal job of bringing this association to where it is today the strength of our group. It's never been like this. The communication with our group has never been like this. Oh you gave Mike and a lot of credit for getting us to where we are today. And I tell our coaches that too because you get a lot of coaches coming into our league and I'm telling them this wasn't like this ten fifteen years ago like you guys are walking into a pretty good scenario. A lot of coaches have paid the dues paid their dues to get you to the stage but we needed the support and the they've done a great job with the League. How much support is there amongst coaches? There is a feeling that there's thirty one teams so there's thirty one head coaching jobs and everybody would you know. Knock the grandmother down an icy road to get one of these jobs. Is that like that is at that competitive. Is that is it? That dog eat dog or is there support amongst the their support. You know I'm going to different stage of my career so and I get that but for a young guy coming into our league in this. Try to talk them like. They're very very supportive. No one wants to see a head coach. Get fired do we. Do they all want head coaching jobs? Absolutely that's why they're getting into the business while getting into the industry. They all want that shot at the head coaching job but in saying that they're all very supportive each other. We're all very sad and disappointed when one of US gets fired because no one wants to go through that because been through a few more times than I wanNA remember. It's not a fun experience so you never ever want to see one of your your partners. Get fired added that being said it opens the door for someone else and yeah. There's a lot of guys that want to get ahead job. And so yeah. There's a pros and constant knee. Just hate to see someone get fired but it also opens the door for someone else. Here's my last question. You mentioned your son Ryan. He is now Iran scouting director pro scouting for the Pittsburgh Penguins. So let's just say that at some point Ryan becomes a general manager and he says Dad. I need a coach or I'll be too old by don't have already told him you become a GM. I WANNA be a consultant. Okay ask consultants the best job in the world I say. How do you get one of those jobs okay? Let's let's do it. Let's do it this way Ryan's GM and he says to you data. Got a problem with my team. I gotTa make a change. I need you to be my interim head coach just to help me see what's going on down there. Do you take a job as coach under Ryan. Bonus the General Manager Mel. That's political. Listen He's my. I would do absolutely anything. The world help them and I think we would both know 'cause that's a few years away and I'm sixty five now that that would be very short term. It lists put it this way. I would be there to extend my coaching career at all and they will then. Did you ever try to dissuade him from becoming an executive or anything like that or you were always Ryan? You've gotTa Follow Your path for first of all. He's a lot smarter than I am. Because he doesn't want to. Coach wants to be a general manager but Ryan Ryan's always had I've had the passion for the game and he played for years junior. Anyone Padilla Saint. Mary's got his degree in play the year in the East Coast. But he's always had the passion for the game and so my oldest son Ricky never played until we played a little house league in Ottawa and never steered her towards hockey whatsoever. That that never bothered me one bit and eventually rookie ended up working in the League and the Media Relations Department for Detroit in Columbus but Now he's on his own business wise but Ryan's always had that passion so I've kind of helped him with that and again. I'm glad that he's in the game because I know him what she loves the game so when they were kids. I would bring. I'd bring them to the rink in the morning. Orion run into the locker room and he'd be working with trainers he'd be doing laundry hanging up sweaters looking at equipment and then he committed. Newnan say cheese dad by a piece of pizza so as in this great right so we got to raise your level any more demanding or ricky would commit. He'd go on the computer and he'd be teaches his father how to use the computer. So Ricky. Have the brains but Ryan's always had the passion so I'm glad he's in the game and I'm but I'm really because he is chasing his dream of being a general manager and this. I never forced hockey on them. This is a natural. He's like I M. He just loves the GAME. You've done so much In this game as a player certainly as a coach in very good player. Let's go play. It's good tell the kids because there are always bugging me. Boat my low stats. There was only seventeen is back then. I might be able to be regular in this league. Today were thirty one teams. So you've checked a lot of boxes is that just what I what I'm getting? Winter Classic would have been another box. I would imagine that you checked behind the bench for the Dallas Stars. How many more boxes are there? Were direct bone. Just WanNa get a Stanley Cup. But I'm running out of time and I get sixty five now. Yeah that would be would be huge for me I want. I've coached over twenty four hundred games. I'd like to over twenty five hundred next year at some point and but the the Stanley Cup what drives me is like when I went to Dallas that last summer. It's not like I needed the job. I didn't go there because I needed a job. I want. I went there because I want to win the Stanley Cup. And there's a big difference. There had four or five other opportunities could've retired. That was if I wanted to do that. But that's not what I WANNA do. I was wanted to take one more really good shot at at at the Stanley Cup and I have a feeling I have that without was this has been a lot of fun. Congratulations on your success. So far good luck check in that last box. Well WE'RE GONNA keep chasing it running out of time but we'll keep we'll really young sixty five such a thing here in this. The sixty five is now the forty-five wouldn't do I feel forty five again. I'm turning fifty this year. My battling you don't look a day older than seventy so like you look better at sixty five and I forty nine Keep those stars playing. The we did against Carolina on Tuesday that the best gaming has played. That's yeah that's one of the best for awhile and I gather told you earlier. We played a great game against Tampa. Coming out of the break in it's been a little inconsistent but last we actually the last three games have been really good. We played a really good game in Saint Louis on Saturday night But last night we were really happy with our game and we. We've got a tough week ahead of us with Toronto Montreal and Ottawa. And we're going to have to play that well to have some success on his trip. Excellent thanks so much was my pleasure. a row one two three four five six seven eight. Okay where do you want it right there everything like doing TV? And now so.

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Episode 393: Zero-Sum Hockey

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Episode 393: Zero-Sum Hockey

"If you find somebody that didn't like griffey junior. They don't like santa claus. They don't like halloween. this scratch. Nobody like hunger fy junior since wraps key window change to baseball jordan brought the basketball but that legacy of his wasn't passed down to this generation and i couldn't figure out why pointer on the field in between those lines is just you american prodigy season two now available brought to you by cores chip pressing to the means twenty fifty. It's the hockey. Pdo cast your host dimitri philipovich. Welcome to the hockey. Bdo guest impeachable povich and joining me. My good buddy. Shash parishad was going on and i am. You're you're the only can see this but it's the first tech in my first trip post covid getting to vaccines. I'm actually talking to your hotel room. And so for the first time in like i don't know forever on eating unhealthy food like close to midnight because i've been living in my own house and they have tried to limit myself from doing that and so now i am got the beer. I've got combos and Bad habits apparently return as soon as they returned quickly. I love it. I've craft beers while as well. We're recording later than i usually record in the mornings. So we're doing a evening. Show here recording on a wednesday to me five. We've got a good catalog of shows going together. I was reflecting on all the ones we've done and we of course i think our first one was It was the summer of twenty eight aircraft available and he was linked to the stars. And we were talking about whether trade them price. Can we get the legendary one after the faa horse bleep episode which was an all time or we hung out of your hotel room for kobe and drank beers and talked about hour the dentist system and we did a deep dive about the stars on route to their appearance in a cup. Final last year so This is the the fifth installment. I think of us. And i'm looking forward to it You're not covering the team. Dallas stars that is on a day-to-day basis anymore. You switched to a different role. The athletic But at the same time you have a good grasp on on the happenings of the team and you're going to a bunch of their games this year. So i figured you know we're going to get into more league-wide stuff in the back. Half of the show dr broadcast and somebody reporting on the league's you deals and stuff in the states. But i figured we had to talk about the stars team. Because i haven't talked about the on the podcast this year and i off their entrenched in one of the few remaining sort of playoff races of intrigue heading into this final couple of weeks of the regular season but also i feel like their own standards. This year has been so remarkably stars that it warrants our attention a conversation about whatever the hell has been going on with this season. Yeah as you said. I don't cover the team anymore. But i probably made it to about a third of the home games. This year in dallas Actually i moved on. I moved up to move this past weekend out of texas. But this was the move to michigan right yet. Moved to michigan so A couple of weeks from michigan getting first yacob brand. Then sean shapiro's huge. Big big weeks bigwigs permission. But i did spend up until this past the past week i was living in dallas. Still went to about a third of third bid. Third maybe half of all the stars home games Obviously saw them more than any other team in so obviously sell the good grasp on what's going on there and yeah i mean that team would i laugh when saad saudis of took. He's done a great job when he took over the beat for me told them it's gonna be. I think you. And i probably use this line on the podcasts. At some point in one of the prior five appearances of most exciting team until the game starts. And somehow this season. It's been a. It's not super exciting. But it's been oddly entertaining. There's framed right about the overtime losses alone. Or just i just laughable to make like this team we're talking twelve overtime losses with f forty nine games right now like that's a pace for math guy but that's a taste for something like eighteen or nineteen eighty two game season. Yeah and at some point. I think they won their first one and then they lost twelve of thirteen games zone. Pass regulation before. Finally on a bit of a streaky recently. But i think what's so interesting about them. As if you look at the overall paul. The standings beijing you adam and following the season. You'd be like this is the most just average generic season and nhl team could have right there like around five hundred there. Like on the cusp of a playoff spot. There's nothing -sarily of note there. And i think the ride there has certainly been all over the place and there's been very big highs and very low lows are going to get into all that but i found the most stars -i stat of they're just complete averageness this season so they've played three thousand four total minutes so far they spent one thousand four of them so pretty much exactly a third leading they spend one thousand and five minutes so nearly identical tied and they spend nine hundred and ninety six minutes trailing so pretty much split. You just carve the game down into three thirds and it's just it's so beautifully symmetrical and comes out to this perfectly even package and there's no team white get really but the ride. There has been so notable it'll be we'd have to do the exact math but like they open the season they they blasted nash like their plus eleven right now like overall for the season like the blasted nashville in detroit in the first four games this season. Like if you take away. I think would have to do the exact map. Maybe we could even do that easily right now. I believe if you took away those first four games they may be at exactly zero Just running please complete even since they kind of remember. We all remember how poor nashville started in. How bad detroit is if we take away kind of that that launching point. I think we're a complete zero zero some hockey for forty five games. That's that's gonna be. The title of it is zero some hockey unloading it down right now. Yeah they pretty much alternating wins and losses for the entirety of the season. And that's a great encapsulation of it Yeah i mean. Listen like the reason why i do want to highlight this playoff race though is as i said is technically. The door is still open. I guess for fourth in the west and east divisions but both those cases like the team that's currently sitting in the driver's seat is up and points and as games in hand so it seems like they have a pretty pretty good advantage there here in the central the technically are up two points on the stars at the time of this recording but the dallas stars have two games in hand on them. They play each other one final time on april. First coming up here. So i i do think it will be very close. I think mike mccurdy most recent projection had him like the stars sixty one point six points and the predators were sixty one point four or something. It's pretty much as close as you can have. It might even come down to a tiebreaker. Honestly which unfortunately the the predators habit and regulations but yeah it's two very tight teams and at the same time. I'm sure you went through this dance with the stars quite a bit over the couple years you cover them. But the process seems pretty sound. I think basically based on any underlying metric look at it which is what the show does they look like the far superior team that are predators right like they're significantly better at five on five. They've got that positive goal differential. You mentioned i think those shootout and overtime losses obviously aren't ideal and might say something negative about thunder lying process for them but at the same time if they get into the playoffs. That's not something you have to worry about. Because you're never playing three on three going into skills competitions and so like just purely in terms of being a five one five team assists performance indicators. We look at. This should be a far superior team. But we're heading into these final whatever five to seven games for both teams and it's about as close as it's dead heat between the two of them india and it's like you you look at how dallas has played in both the metrics like the five point five the metrics lineup as you mentioned on that but even like you watch them play and they're they're a good hockey team and they are there better hockey team. The national. i've watched national in dallas. Both in person of times dallas has a better hockey team particular. Obviously in maine facet of the game on five on five and is a better hockey team. Even with this is something. I'm sure we'll talk. More about dallas is a better hockey team with without all of their actual good players. Like there's no gradual off radulov Only played what thirteen games there. They've had a goalie tandem. That has been without their business finals from two years ago. Sagan hasn't played at all. I mean this is a team. That is a good hockey team with a fourth line that the other night was goal. Less browns. justin dally tenor carol. Like that's a no disrespect all three very nice humans. Actually those are definitely three names. Three names and dal- dallas is a little bit. Now you make your own luck right. And so in over in the overtime thing overtime thing is kind of it's hard to say they're unlucky because he kind of it's been around enough as a coach. You have to better handle it so i can't call completely unlucky but if they were slightly better than that facet of the game. Say they're even they've got twelve overtime losses city wind just just five of those. We're looking at a spot where they're there. What about two. Three points ahead of nashville. Two games in hand and i. It's kind of one of those things where they're they're locking it down because that's what the dallas stars do when they get a lead they lock things down. It gets boring and they would do that in the standing. And so it's just really. They've missed managed both unlucky and they've also mismanaged overtime too. Because they have their things in tweaks where you can pick here and there and this is one of those things of this may be one of those things where we talk about. Rick bowness where rick bowness. As a coach. He is give him a lot of credit for what he's done dating back to helping the stars gift through that crazy. Jim montgomery firing and obviously keeping in his real that calming voice that all the players love playing for in the bubble but one of the reasons rick bowness was an assistant coach for so long and has never really had that head. Coaching role is kind of that kind of its factor. That in that making that final decision. And that's where you kind of need that. In from a coaching perspective in that overtime selection. I think too often. For example often in overtime sometimes works but too often they throw out someone. Radic fox blake comeau to start overtime in esa lindell. Just be like okay. We're gonna play defensive and it would be one thing if that was working all the time but they're still losing overtime like it would be one thing if it was so. I just think it's kind of you can't rip on rick bowness or what he's done but you also have to. He's obviously he's moved past the point of the in that interim guy the fulltime head coach. He deserves definitely some blame for this team should be five six points higher in the standings and they should be the one playing with the lead in this final race over nationalists. Post the way it is. Yeah i'm looking at it right now. So are twelve four and two. In one goal games stars are eight. Six twelve including two and twelve in games decided pass they. There were twelve in gas regulation. They won their most recent three. You know generally in a fifty six game season like there's so much less time for that stuff to even out. I mean we're we're kind of seeing it right out with the stars having their past three right. It's kind of like that regret that you'd expect to see. But the times dwindling here for that to kind of fully take hold and so at the same time teams with let's say blowout winds are winds of three or more goals like pretty decisive for the most part The only ones with more blow wins than the stars. This year are vegas. The rangers colorado pittsburgh tampa bay minnesota. They've let thirteen of them. The press only eight You see that in the goal differential right. I think they're there for the year. The pressure minus ten and so that combined with the by five metrics where i believe they're pretty much top five or six and like every single from cher goals. Too high danger. It's all stuff you like to see right. And and that doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to translate to them jumping leapfrogging national because national house. You see saros playing out of his mind and national defense as well like they've battled their own set of injuries and not having their key players who hasn't played it all february they had out for twenty games was out like they've they've navigated their own sets of Trials relations this season but for the stars. Like i guess when you're having this conversation we to acknowledge the impact that the weird nature of the season has has had Like it feels like there has been kind of cloud hanging over them from like literal outset. Right like the start of their regular season was delayed because the entire team basically in covert protocol didn't get started until ten games after everyone dilip jammed forty games into sixty nine hundred sixty nine days since the start of march which is nice but for them maybe not so nice in terms of trying to optimize player performance and so it feels like kind of like that like simpson's monkey positraction right where they last year wished like all right. We wanna make it to the stanley cup final. And then they got that and the net result and then you know the negative trickled out of after that was pretty much everything going wrong possibly could up and it just feels like it had some sort of stink on this season to where you know from player. Injuries too weird performances. It's been following them all your. Yeah it's like that kind of net hangover to from the rep playoff round where it's the combination of some of it. You could have expected. Just like with the sega injury in the bishop injury and stuff like that that stuff where by having the bishop wants a whole nother issue but the sagan injury in for example. The szegin injury is one where he played through labor tear. And all that stuff in have been all you look at all the injuries that guy's kind of the wear and tear that that team went through Like the list is so long you name name they. They probably they were dealing with something whether we know about it or not in that playoff and then even into this season like a guy like Like i mean rope a hints for example. Like just think about. What would happen if roper was actually health east playing with a Undisclosed lower body injury that he's essentially from ninety nine percent. Sure i know what it is. But he's playing to relate undisclosed lower body injury where he is. It's depends on how he feels that he's not practicing. Not going through morning skates. He shows up to the rink. He shows up to the rank. He goes through treatment to be able to play that night if he's able to play and then once he plays he's the best player on the ice like if he was if he if he was fully healthy it would be. It would be such a different story like he has he has. He's been there objectively their best player. This season and it is wild to think that you know. He's been either to day or a game time decision. Which i know i've seen fantasy owners have been infuriated because they never know what he's playing but it's just the the reality that that he's dealing with where i struggle with. We don't want to glorify like the players to play through her her and stop right like it's you know. He seems to be managing it. But at the same time you know you do wonder what's going on there. Like it's been described as he's held together by by string and duct tape and alien friedman's reason thirty one thought and and and that sounds like an accurate description but so at least they've gone games out of him right you go. They got less than two hundred minutes. This alex radulov heels for the year. Ben bishop isn't made didn't make an appearance in teller sagan has yet the play he presumably will play at some point here down the stretch We'll see but that's like twenty one million dollars in between those three that they have really gotten anything out of the season and then on top of the top you had to just. This isn't a surprise because we kind of we knew this. And i mean you add into the fact. There's the two point. Eight million to a top. Four defense. Stephen johns whose careers essentially over to like that now. I'm not really counting part of that. Because he's a much different situation than the something like a sega. But it's still it just adds to that whole if we start running the ledger on on what this team is actually paying for and what. It's actually getting just on the raw numbers. It's it's insane and crazy. You know a player that has played. But i'm not really sure how to evaluate performance. This season has been anton khudobin. Reason why i say that is because i feel like there's so many kind of contextual complicating factors and i and i don't want to be unfair to like i don't know how to evaluate a goalie. Who's played thirty games. Because on the one hand it could just be completely random because that position is so volatile and like the best goalies in the world have thirty game stretchers where they just don't have good numbers and it happens at the same time. He's turning thirty five. I believe here. He just played twenty five playoff games in like a six week stretch at the end of last season which is probably the most in grueling stretch of pro hockey. He's ever really played in his career at least in in many years And the reason. Why complicating part is you know. We know Publicly that he's dealt with kobe before the season and talks on the record about how he struggled with the recovery of it. And so you put all of that together. And it's like so difficult for me to evaluate what's been going on with his performance especially moving forward when you're thinking about what's what they're gonna do a net moving forward right jake auditors. Look good obviously Especially for a guy who's twenty two years old and making his first real stint around the league this year and has been perfectly fine. Ben bishop while you're going to get from anton khudobin. Both those guys have two years left on their deals. I believe after this season. So just in terms of like figuring out what you're going to get from anton khudobin goalie moving forward. I don't wanna forget. How recently removed from him looking amazing and winning all of our hearts over by being just a legendary character. Who's making ridiculous eve's by like he has not been good this season and i think that's something very important to win over hearts. I think something that stars fans have to do. And i don't think they want to do it. Is you need to separate full. Kiro anton khudobin versus goalie. Anton khudobin because khudobin. The story of anton khudobin in the bubble was tremendous arguably speaking. He was just good in a bubble. It's not like we're not j. Together gear dragging the ducks to the final. This was not yara with individually. winning series. Like khudobin was good but it was the story. That was great. It was the thirty. Something was the thirty four year. Hit some great performances. He did he did but but just as far as the whole concept of that. This is as far as an all time. The he also had some duds and he was just okay at some time. So i think it's very hard from a stars fan perspective to separate the folk legend of anton khudobin in the goalie. Anton khudobin in so. I think it's what makes it even harder to assess just kind of when you try to separate that stuff and this season. He's not been good this year he has not been good at. It's hard to. It's hard to figure out. Whether is it the the wear and tear and the breakdown from playing. All those games in the bubble is to the fact that he hardly work out because of covid or is it simply the fact that in this may just be the case. It's a lot easier to be number two the number when With him and when he was number two. And you're the number two guy in. You're pushing ben bishop in your challenged try to steal minutes from. It's a lot easier to do that than be supposedly be the guy in now. Be the guy that someone's pushing so i think there's an element to that as well where he'll type things someone. The goalie will never admit says no. I always want everything like that but there are reasons certain it's in boston. Why does the tandem work. Well locked locked knows. He's technically number two but he's pushing rask that's in khudobin kind of lost the guy that he's supposed to push the guy who's supposed to to try to steal some minutes firm but at the end of the day we all know who get game onto the playoffs. It's i think there's something there to to that as well. And that's just more my own gut feeling in theory of khudobin. His a tremendous one beat when he became when he has to become a one a. That's a harder role than than being. Just it's just. I think it's a fair assessment. Personally because i'm saying it. Yeah i mean. So he's got a nine hundred seventy percents. This year minus seven point two goals eight expected like his numbers. Don't look that bad because stars are so good defensively where they give up the second fewest high danger attempts expected goals against and whatnot. So like we're not talking about catastrophic numbers here. But i think just the way he's looked in. I'm far from a goalie. Evaluator in terms of watching their technique and being like. Oh this is what they need. To tinker with your. But i think it's pretty clear just from the test that he has looked off and i thought the one goal he gave up against the redwings recently like pop fire where he flubbed. It went through him. Basically in tapped behind it was kind of like a fluke event but a few games. Before that i thought razor made a really stupid point one of the broadcast where he was. Kind of saying like yeah. Khudobin hasn't looked very sharp this season in terms of like the way. He's reading pox like how he's reacting to them. It feels like he has a lot of parks where he's just not fully like realizing where it's going. He's made up on the reeds of not been there right. He's made up for because of how athletic these that's why he's been that's why the stars are have been able to handle in survive how this has been but the initial reads you look at where he's starting in and sometimes it even creates highlight. Reel save in. It's something where you'll look. No that's a great save but there's too many times where he sometimes even creating those own scenarios for himself where you're looking may whether it's the two on one and reacting not not reacting slow but not picking up on the fact that this is coming down the wing or committing only the shot or it's it's way more. It's a lot of things like that. And i don't know maybe there's a theory. I don't know we'd have to ask a goalie coach. So this maybe there's something to the fact of. there's not been much practice. Time in goalies have goal is with with how condensed the schedule is. Maybe there hasn't been the time to just spend spend time with his goalie coach in work on that. Maybe i don't know. I'm just throwing random theories out there right now but yeah. I don't know it's a really tricky one for me to value. I just want to point out. He hasn't look good. And there's may boss. Books nations were why but it becomes. Even the bigger question to of this team does get in before the season. Hey ben bishop play. You would say with one hundred percent. Lock that okay. Anton khudobin is gonna play in the playoffs. If this does get in and anton khudobin would probably because rick bowness than that's how we coaches Veterans it's unavoidable would probably get game one but if they lose game one five four. What stop and jake from being game. Two hundred objectively been the more reliable this season. Why do you think it's very tantalizing from the coaches perspective of even during this bad year for him. I think it was a couple of games there in florida against the panthers earlier in the year where he stopped like ninety. Eight of one hundred shots in two games or something like that. It's like there's very few goals in the world. That can realistically do what anton khudobin can do. When he's at the top of his game if he flips switches. Really well right like. It's something where you can tell like. There's a game that you can tell where there's games were the that switches then flipped. And he's not getting beaten that night or it's gonna take something remarkable in the stars can whether a seventy five shots storm then night since i've seen too many of those games i've seen many of those games so i can see the pain in your eyes Okay well let's let's talk about something more positive. Because the combination of rupa hinson jason robertson for me has been a bright light in this season End people are starting to catch onto it. We can talk more about robertson's called her candidacy and discussion between him and caprice off. But i wanted him. Focused focus more on on the combination of those two in the way. They've played off each other. 'cause you know for me it's we. We alluded to talk about. How hints is clearly playing hurt. And it's crazy to think that it is a lower body injury bugging a player who relies on his wheels as much as he does and when he's played like he's still creating off the russia this breakneck speed and just producing at. He's got thirty eight points in thirty six games. I've accused the top ten in terms of points per minute. A generated and so the combo of him and robertson. I'm always so fascinated by like complementary skill sets right on trying to get the most out of both players involved. And i think it's pretty clear that they've stumbled on something here where you know. With hints his playmaking ability to create off the rush and robertson's sort of willingness to do a lot of the dirty work around the net without necessarily feeling like he needs to do the heavy lifting in terms of pop carrying. I feel like those who have played off of each other so well and they're clearly getting great results. But i really think like. They've stumbled upon illegitimate combination here. That's producing like top line pair. And there's no reason to believe they won't assuming stay healthy. Yeah they have. I think like i i find kind of i. Use this comparison. I was trying to explain this to someone the other day. And i don't know if this will make any sense to anyone else but i was trying to explain kind of why they fit so well. The other day someone in. I actually brought up a soccer analogy. Where robertson's striker who knows that he can drop back and he can drop into the space and he can do and he doesn't. He's technically the guy who's supposed to be up top. What he knows that. There's that that that that flashy winger that when he steps back the other guy will step into that space. I kind of use that. I don't know if enough people get that analogy or not But it's the. I was trying to explain to someone who is more of a soccer fan hockey fan the other day but it they do play. It's it's it's kind of that. Where robertson is his hockey. I q in offense of i. Q is off the charts. It's great and you think about one of the things we heard about robertson from his draft year on. I've actually talked to jason about it multiple times and he can finally laugh at announced it was always the is he going to be able to escape well enough to play in the. Nhl is he gonna be able to skate while after the nhl. The skating's get all them back the skating skating skating yada yada yada and he's a much better skater. Now he's still not going to be a great city still not a great skater. It's still it's never gonna be pretty but the the wherewithal to know where to go. The work he does and then i think the thing that is that we see is just the little ability to put that skill to go from working to putting that skill in to make that snapped. Switch right away. That's that's of. The difference between a guy who can is a career fourth line good player in a guy who has potential to be a great in the trophy conversation will in robertson like there was the play there was the play the other night where he had the assistant of the night where the puck comes from below the goal line and ninety five percent of rookies h shoot that puck right into the goalies gut and he makes a little slide. Passover to ben for the easy put away just little things like that where he comes after. A nice fortunate. And it's the perfect complement for even more so in a year where hints is is banged up. The can't do as much of that work in like you look at the bubble from for dallas. What happened one of the things. One of the issues for hints in gurianov's one of the reasons they didn't work together as they were go. Go go go right. They were they were so fun on the rush there so fun and transition but once they got into the offensive zone it was like they need to almost like circle back start over again instead now they have hence they have hints with that guy that can do the work in the zone in kind of help in kind of take a little bit that in create for him and at the same time. They've got that other line. We're gurianov is playing with ben and it works well. We're ben is a very similar player where he can do that work so it can be the basically the guy that streaks up and down the flank. It works really well and it's something where it's talked about. Shame that hints hasn't been able to play more as a shame. Not only for instance sake. It's a shame to see what's hinson robertson would be able to do if fully healthy and you like you. We always talk about those long term combinations guys you build around like. That's a fun really fun combination to think about long term. Even if especially as they're gonna have whoever the third guy is gonna keep rotating out because obviously gets. That's how these things will work Nhl renounced joe pavelski some nights whatever but Yeah i could see tyrod sagan being there when when he slots in but since march i. I'm using that kind of as the cutoff here. Because that is sort of roughly when they started playing full-time played two hundred ninety. Five ninety five thousand five minutes together. Sixty point four percent shot share goals or twenty one to eight. And you know it's funny. You mentioned robertson skating because i would. I would say it's still not good exactly so it's not good. I was. I was being nice. It's still not good. Doesn't doesn't really have the extra acceleration gear. And the only reason i bring that up is because it doesn't matter and that's a testament to how great of a hockey player. He is in cairo binds. We have someone like mark stone. Obviously a wildly different player. But also someone who you watch. Looks like he's like skating with like cinder blocks on and it makes no sense but he's always the first one to the puck because he reads the ice. Oh well and he can sorta may calculate decisions on where he needs to go and sort of picked his battles right. And i've got some amazing jason robertson. Stats for you. Then i to drop on you right now and was in. I noted despite the name of the show the pto cast. I normally try not to spend too much time. Reciting a bunch of numbers. Because i just find. It doesn't make very compelling audio experience for listeners to hear me just like rattling off numbers but at the same time in this case. I think they're really functional and are also going to help. People that are out of watch attended jason roberts and kind of familiarize themselves with how he plays and why he's been so productive and so i've been using since i started writing at elite prospects. I've got access to in-stat hockey which gives me like all the tracking information and stuff in terms of like pulling up clips and stuff right and you can search by specific sequences at advance. They have labeled for you for every player like break down. Into the most. Like micro sets you want but for jason robertson. I was looking curious. Because i was like i feel like when i watch him play. He gets the puck. And it's instantly office stick like you never really see him sort of loitering around in the neutral zone with it. And i think it's why it's made him such a great combination with hand because hints loves carrying the pockets over roberts and he sort of the simplicity of his game and i think it speaks like a maturity of a player. Who's as young as he has. It has a little experience being willing to be like. Hey i'm not very good at this in. My linemate is great at this. I'm gonna let him do this. And i'm going to try to be complementary where i can right and i was looking at it the pinball bumper. Yeah here's we re gets it. He quickly moves into any instantly goes to the open space. He's got so. I don't know this probably isn't like a very detail number because you watch and it's like that didn't necessarily look like what this tracking software is bleeding me to believe it was but they've got jason robertson listed for twelve stickhandling events this season in terms of like minds. Some sort of move the move with the puck and two point perspective. How small but number for forty something game sample is carol capris out. Who will talk to you as his calder. Foil has ninety one stickhandling events so far according to that and group has forty two of them. I believe or whatever and in thirty five games and it's like a very very low number and it's not By you know it's not an accident. I don't think is what i'm trying trying to get to. I think early as by design and he understands. That's the way he needs to play and kudos to him because he's getting the most out of the skills he does have which is when he gets the puck in tight. He's impossible to knock it off. If he has great skill and hands around to score. I think twelve of his fifteen goals so far. So my count have been within like a foot or two of the goal crease. He's had a couple off the rush where he shot it from far out but it pretty much all of it has been you know dirty work around the net which is amazing for a player of his are of his agent experience to be already doing that. At this. Point so yeah. He's such a wildly different player. I think part of what makes the conversation so interesting to me. Like they couldn't be more polar opposites in terms of the way they play but they've both been so successful and that's the awesome part of this that there isn't necessarily one way you can play be good like they're showing us that you can do it any number of ways. Yeah the robinson caprice off thing is really interesting and we can talk about that because it is is is is a factor of there are two different ways to play and united Joking on the twitter messages. When i said roberts you when i message said robertson for call. They're willing but at the end of the day and as much as hockey nerd. I love watching what jason robertson does but as someone who wants to be entertained as someone who wants to be the what's next the wow factor you watch Caprice off like are you. Watch a wild game for capri saw. You watch jason robertson. Played fan in you in you can you can you look for that nuance caprice. You watched just because i wanted. I wanna see something that's gonna put me That's gonna blow my mind. Robertson only really. Does that if you are a hockey nerve. It's it's a very interesting kind of dynamic and you could resolve to anyone that doesn't resent hockey and they'll be like wow. That was a ridiculous play whereas you need to be like oh like he read the coverage therein found the soft spot in the zone like nope not only massive nerds in huge stars. Fans would probably truly appreciate that but like it's still an equally important attribute not everyone can be dangling around. You need players. that can do the roberson. doesn't he. does it so well. It's interesting when you talk about like the caller trophy like there's other to the other big element that just to discuss. And i know some people. One of the things that comes up resolve is is older. He's what twenty four hour right. Who who he. He's played he's played. He's leading the cage in the cage l. For as long as he did and and robertson is twenty one a twenty two now turning twenty two in a bit either way younger player. And it's i don't know what the right judgment on that is. I'm kind of of the thought process. Where twenty four. I'm still okay with the. I don't know what your thoughts are. I'm fine with like to me a rookie rookie. Unless like i think if someone i think if he was twenty five twenty six maybe that starts to get to the conversation for me. Where like should we really be considering him a rookie or whatever but to me. It's i'm okay with his age. Personally i think it's his first year. Nhl player and that's what the award is so. I don't think we should hold that against resolve. And i also think just personally and as much as jason robertson seasons has been tremendous. You look kind of what that final differences like you talk about team. Success right who is. And if dallas gets in robertson's gonna play a big factor in that but where minnesota is they are where they are because of like at the end of the day. And it's it's it's an interesting. It's there's so many elements of this that you can have the debate and you can discuss and everything like that and i think the most important thing though is before we went into this season in two weeks into the season it was. We all knew who the calder winner was. There wasn't going to be a debate at all and now we can at least have a debate. I think that's good for the sport. Honestly it is. Let's take a quick break here. And then i've got some thoughts on uncle in the cauldron then we cannot finish up the the podcast there. The economy is made up of real people doing real stuff and it affects everything which you obviously know. Since you're real person doing real stuff marketplace's here to help you get smart about everything. 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As you mentioned the fact robertson's may this arrays considering he started the year playing for five minutes and had two goals in his first twelve games or whatever is a remarkable story in its own right not to give him a partic- participation ribbon here for finishing second. But it's like it's what he's done over the past thirty three to thirty five game since the start of march is he's been as good as anyone that he's literally top ten in pretty much every single offencive metric from with capri of moving. The goalposts in season. Really bugs me in the sense that if you want to argue that the age bothers your the pro experience before this season in the k chow. That's fine. I have time for that argument. That shouldn't be held against capris. I've now because that's not what the award is about. The award is out who had the best first season in the nhl. Assuming that under twenty six whatever not who's going to have the best of bella mental article over the next five years if you factor in their age and their nhl experience. That's that's what this is about. And i think for me like what preserves done this season considering that he is a twenty four year old now with all of that pro experience. Mckay joe is even more marketable to me. Considering what how. He's transformed the minnesota wild organization in the sense that he comes over with these massive expectations like he limited sorta while waiting years for him as hockey fans that have been paying attention. And you've been seeing the stats and the highlight reels from the cage. I'll be like. I can't wait to see what this guy looks. Like in the nhl brampton in and pretty much from day one literally in his first game he scores overtime winner against the gains and just hasn't looked back since for him to make that transition for me. So seamlessly has been even more impressive to knock robertson's case but he was playing in texas in the last year had three games a cup of coffee with the stars. I believe at some point. In the season like the was afforded the ability to kind of slide into the role and not necessarily need to carry the team from from day one. Like what capris. Resolves done that. He's gone the opportunity all season. Which accounts for some of the offensive production. Obviously but i. I don't think we should lose sight of that. Just because he's a twenty four year old. I agree with that. I also think there's also value in. This is the pro caprice off. Case in one of the reasons that i think at this point saying obviously we'll see what happens in the last couple of games but i also think we need to remember if you're using it to find the slimmest of margins you can talk about how finish the season but i think when i look at the rookie of the year award. There's value in being the best rookie from day. One to game eighty two or game one game fifty six in this season i think there's a credible value in that i think I think there's something to speak to on that where it's not the. It's not the rookie. Who looked the best. The last three months the season. It's the rookie. Who was the rookie of the year. Now if someone from from my perspective so you're talking to someone like robertson who has been great over less he for him to steal the call different caprice. He has to outplay him. A ton in the last he has to outplay. Play by so much in the last couple of weeks of the season that you're like okay. You know what that makes up for that first month when caprice off was clearly the better player for whatever was the first twelve thirteen. Whatever i think you have to take the full season to an account and it's great that we have a debate but at the end of the day the fact that could presuppose that good on day one. We shouldn't we shouldn't take that away from like that's something that we still need to remember like the sad part of pitting. The two against each other for the purposes of this exercise is that they would be the perfect players to play with each other with capri just carrying the puck. But then setting up like these beautiful tap ins around the net robertson having someone who could finally take advantage of all the opportunities it creates like. It'd be remarkable obviously to players on different teams. But it's just funny to me thinking about it that way that one final robertson stat to end this on a real high note i want the stars fans are listening to be excited about this experience and the craziest stat for me. I think that. I've seen so there's been three hundred and eighty three players have played five hundred five on five minutes this season. So it's a pretty big threshold bowl out of players. The stars are scoring three point. Nine six five one. Five goals per hour with jason robertson on the ice to put it into neutral the seventh. Most all of the other players in the top ten are basically vegas is best players. Stevenson stolen patty and theodore colorado's best players mckinnon rantanen in my car and then caught him him. Patrice bergeron and jason roberts and robertson is doing that while playing on a star stars team that is scoring like two point one five goals per hour as a team and five hundred five and i think the only teams worse than them or anaheim detroit and buffalo or some and got as the list. They can think it's a bad five one five scoring team for him to be having the type of on ice impact that he had in real minute style. I think he's playing over eighteen minutes a night. Only chocolate plays more than since the start of march like and adds another conversation here. The fact that rick bowness is true. I mean part of it is by necessity. I thank like rick bowness. Just just fully unleashing. Jason roberts on on the world is trusting as basically second most heavily hughes forward after everything. We went through in the past with being like pleased. Play your skillful. or it's finally doing it. I look at the results. it's beautiful and the other thing too. That just i think one last robertson thing the fact they use him in the fact that actually used him in the shootout. Because rick bowness has been such a. I'm gonna trust tyler sagan alexander radulov jamie benn and maybe the guy that scored that the fact that he actually trusts robertson to go into the shootout it. Just it's just so much of like. Oh okay this guy is limited by a different set of rules than we were than denis. Gurianov was last rightfully. So in some cases in some cases now it's a whole nother conversation but we we don't have time for. We've had that conversation before that. We have a link to other podcasts. Yeah we've been cetera. Peace and denis gurianov. Just put a bow on the stars component of this. I think moving forward regardless of what happens over. These next couple of weeks isn't going to be a big summer for them from team perspective because going to be all about sort of in my mind being proactive and lyon pieces upright because after next season you've got pavlovsky radulov klingberg all coming off. The books in this team is whatever. It looks like. he's going to look differently. And i'm not sure it's necessarily good enough of a team to be like all right. Let's roll it back with preparing for what that features gonna look like especially with a player of mira. Hi skin stature for example and eating a new deal. Rfa this summer. There's going to be some big decisions that need to be made for the stars. So i don't know did you. To take this from the direction and perspective of klingberg and what we do like what that looks like in terms of the rest of his stars tenure of near end long term future for him or from high skins perspective and sort of what that next deal is going to look like and aggressive. They're going to be with that contract. Yeah the heiskanen was interesting because You just looking for one of the things that just to keep in mind in haitians agency in pulver in pulver is thomas cheviots agent so in now patients a much better player than she bought. That is that's the floor. So you gotta think from hastings representation from a group that already represents one of the other young defensemen that got pretty big deal that that's where the floor even starts patients and knowing what i know about kind of were campus and where they've been before i know they're probably going to be looking for that big deal so the interesting thing with the stars in one of the lasting kind of legacies of this team and whether this team is able to compete in and everything like that will be. It's gonna come out of this week. You mentioned klingberg mentioned But the key question is going to be. Did they overpay us. Lyndale that that is that is going to be the key question. The key question is his john. Klingberg guts lyndale. Pay and john klingberg Esa lindell is a good defenseman but tease overpaid in john. Klingberg got him that money by basically being but with what he's done as far as a lindell houses particular set of skills john klingberg allows him to focus on those kids. Getting it does. But you don't pay that for that those no break there. Yeah exactly and so the question is going to be more so for dallas with whether they can continue to compete in the futures will lindell's contract with a page for that and will hurt. Maybe i don't think that contract would have hurt in a non cova world. I think it's just one of those where that contract is going to look even worse because of the flat cap and as they figured out will they be able to keep in build it in. Will they be able to keep patient klingberg. I don't know if they will especially now with what's going to happen. I mean hintze gonna need to a couple years hence is going to be up for big money. If he's playing if he keeps playing the same way and it's it's a tough spot like i think. Dallas dallas is kind of in a very what you do john. Klingberg is a fascinating debate. And i am personally of the opinion that you don't trade john klingberg. He's one of the best in the world that what he does the way he walks the blue line. Way does that to me. There are other ways. You make it work but i also understand that you have the conversation about do you strike while the value is highest. Personally i would not but it is. But thing i would say about that as i still feel like the value klingberg provides stars significantly exceeds. I agree with you. I think he's valued around the league for for whatever reason Which isn't to say that there isn't a team who out there that if he was made available would become supremely interested by think. It's a situation where anyone that's like. Been super upset with klingberg making mistakes or or or this and that. Be careful if you're a star wars fan because when he's when he's gone you're gonna miss john klingberg like it's not going to look the same and remember tweeted out a highlight reel of him. Walking the blue earlier in the season and like a star is a couple stars ends are like. Oh this is great. But let's see him in the playoffs when he's not it's like. He was awesome in the playoffs last year he was. He was their best events in the playoffs last year. Like yes. hey she was great but look at. What's klingberg did throughout the playoffs. He dry was their main play driver. He was like He was the person who he was. He was the player that pretty much drove that team. He was the reason. This one of the main reasons the stars were able to knock it hemmed in in that vegas series of you if you take a look if you tend to isolate klingberg from eta that vegas series which the stars basically somehow with one. The gentleman sweep with the five games like that series. The fact john clink john klingberg skated the stars to that five game series. Now point totals were his point. Totals weren't astronomical but what he did to not let dallas hendin by vegas team that typically rocks other teams in shot share like. That's that's incredible and it is. It is a very much. If you star span thinking the stars need to move on from john klingberg you are going to. Uh it's the type of people it's the same type of people tried to rent surges Out of town in fifty six is hanging in the rafters in dallas soldiers. Leave it at that point. I mean who certainly starches last postseason. Where where he was like just single handedly willing them offense to sequences even in the stanley cup final against the lightning like is other worldly but at the same time like he's going to be i think thirty by the time next deal starts and he's a player who's been underpaid at four point five million for like the entirety of his nhl career. Basically right like it was great piece of business. Obviously with risk in harry by the stars of the time but when you sign a player with forty one. Nhl games of that point of the pro experience in an angel experienced to the deal. They did like pretty much as soon as he signed it and he kept playing the way he had been before. That deal was like all right. This is under paid for him at this point and so this is going to be his last real chance to cash in and i wonder what he's gonna be looking for what the financial market around the league is going to be looking at that point. But it's it's an interesting conversation and can right because you mentioned eight eight eight years. Sixty four million. We've also seen guys. Like were n ski and charlie. Mcevoy go with a three year bridge. Deal route to get closer to unrestricted free agency. Now only twenty one right. So he's he's a bit of a ways away from that. I think as can and if i'm just thinking from a perspective of if i am i know on one hand they're probably gonna look. We want big big as possible. The final heiskanen scam. I'm looking at. I want that to three bridgier deal not just to get close to face status but even more so to get out of flat cap status like i don't want to lock in my. I don't want to lock in my contract in a flat cap world. I want to put myself in a spot. If i'm that type of player. I to put myself in a spot where two years from now. I want to be able to capitalize on. The cap. does start to go up with the escrow. Deal is finally paid off and teams can start spending. That's what i want. That's what i want to be able to make my money in. So it's it's going to be really interesting to see what the line of thinking is going to be from the two sides on this. I think dallas is gonna be dallas is gonna wanna get that eight year because they know that they're going to have to pay. It's going to cost a ton more if in two years he's available after if two if in two years of more More norris votes in more of the reputation finally gets out there. It's going to be dallas is going to have to pay way more two years down the line so they're gonna dallas your dallas. You gotta sign him for eight years now if you're heiskanen signing away years at this point no you're not you shouldn't you shouldn't. That would be bad business. I mean it's a lot of money to turn down. If he wants to take it he goes. Ed has agent. I'm sure yeah. I'd i'd love that commission right now. But yeah and you know especially since the you know. The complicating factor here is kale mccaren. Quinn hughes are also our phase while it's not a complicated actor from my perspective. But i wish like those deals are gonna look like before. I figured out what is deal because like you know. They're they're going to be sort of an extra link between even though they are different players but Yeah it's it's it's going to be a lot of money. It's going to be a tug of war between the two sides unsure but yeah. I'm very fascinated to see how it goes out. So i think this is a good pivot point for us. Then because you're talking about the flat cap and you know you are now the athletics What's your title the business writer business. Nhl business is the official title but Businesses hockey nhl business. Whatever you whatever you wanna call it. I kind of call i cover to cover a weird weird stuff in financial stuff than kind of try to write about things that no one else writes that on the sport i think on a daily basis so i like it this. This is a good chance us to loop in the Unplug the vladic fans are being broadcast. You've been doing. Yeah and also sort of tie that into the future of of the nhl on television in the united states between espn and turner. What that's gonna look like and sort of the ambitions behind that and how it's gonna affect the league from beyond just entertainment product. Just the financials of so. I don't know you can take that any direction yet. I of one of the things about the whole. Tv deal so we now have in the united states we have. Obviously there was the big deal of the nhl going back. The it's kind of funny actually Maybe perfectly do some sit in my hotel room right now and there was. I think it was the what was the game the game that was supposed to be tonight. Nbc rosary abs- abs- nights. So my hotel does not have nbc asset. I could not pull up however by his pin on in the background here. I i got both. Espn tnt on my tv. I couldn't get nbc instead of my tv. So i was able to watch the. I wasn't able to pull up that game. I think that's a perfect encapsulation of view talked about the tv partners of where the nhl is going. That's a perfect example of. They're moving from the channel that was nbc's auxiliary channel which was nice to channels that people actually have an people. Actually watch like nbc. We have to remember its origins. Were the outdoor life network. That's that's what. Nbc said was. It was the outdoor life network. Ed but turner. Tbs is pianist his to abc. All that stuff. Those are channels and those are places. People actually look to go watch sports. It's places where they actually have it in a hotel room. If you go to a sports bar they actually have the they actually have the t. v. Set to tnt serious fan because they know there will be a game on that night and the nhl in the united states. I think with the nbc. India like they always were top floor where we're a big four sport in the united in the united states Yet acts like right like yeah like like you gotta act like you gotta get you have to be a spot where the nhl will be in our to national tv partners. The nfl has abc espn. Cbs nbc amazon. Either way the nfl has the obviously. That's the that's the high watermark has four or five major league. Baseball in the united states is espn. It's got the young. John turner has a game. You have the re networks major league baseball. The nba has espn and turner. If you wanna be a major for sport in the united states you have to act like it and you have to capitalize on these deals and you have to get the multiple partnerships. One of the biggest mistakes the nhl did was signing that ten year deal with nbc in two thousand eleven signing the ten year deal where two hundred to two billion dollars two hundred million dollars per year on average it was devalued their product they committed to they basically. They locked themselves into something where they weren't able to put themselves in a position to adapt like the the nhl. Maybe those rights for the right price for the first two or three years of that tenure deal but they were devaluing their products in devaluing. The money borodin heating the cap lower everything by signing a ten year deal like even this steal one of the main criticism I've heard is talking to people as these deals the there's a lot of real excited at the criticism. Is it seven years. And they said like will. Five years would have been more preferential just because with our rights change and how the world changes. There's pro maybe you're leaving money on the table by going seven years but that's nothing compared to going ten years and basically giving nbc sports all the power nbc for that time in the nhl is moving into a stratosphere were needs to be to be a top four sport in the united states. I know in part of the. Espn thing it's overplayed in. Sometimes it does like everyone's like oh well people say like magically it's going to be a fan of we're gonna snap our fingers in every The united states complain that that's not how it works. It's not going to be. It's not that simple. It does how it is however it is it is however that kind of default for pushing what sports watching the united states it is that it is that space where it's drives culture for lack of that lack of a better word. It's something you look at what the nba is. And the nhl had a partner nbc. That was willing to let hockey. Be the old white guys in suits. That's when mbc lead hockey nbc. Abc allowed the nhl to stick with that. You look at how they did their broadcasts like in nbc. Cnbc words broadcasts. You talked about the nose of hockey. You dumped it down a little bit and that's all you. Did you look at how you look at the These people that are fascinating that that the fascinating interesting that play this game that we never hear these stories ever on television. Maybe every once in a while they would do some sort of feature abou- player help the charity or something like that really. We never hear anything about other than bread burns to the point that they all bread. Burns's weird what else. what else. What else do we ever hear about players now coverage of the sporting to get to a point of. How do you open avenues to get more people into the sport in the united states canada. Everyone's gonna still against now in in the united states. You need a network. That's gonna if if someone he needed network that does what and his fan do for the nba. Where they actually talk about it all the time like i was talking to somebody from nhl network today. About how reason. Nhl network has really been nhl network for the last six seven eight years however long. It's been around. It's the only place where if you wanted to turn the tv on it eleven. Am or something like to hear them. Talk about hockey. It's the only place in the united states. You could do that. And now hopefully through their cillari programming he is ten will. Do that and tnt will do things like that and it's a really good step for the league just to be with these partners. Now the deal does come with if the gift to the deal does come with some caveats for lack of a better word where like one of the criticisms we talked about. The term is probably a little bit too long but the other caveat is just the nhl probably initial didn't bring in the money they thought they were gonna bring it on the deal like these are. These deals are wins in getting the partners but it is not so gary bettman two years ago in a pre pandemic were basically talked to enough people to know this pretty well. He told he basically told the board of governors. He would be able to bring in seven hundred fifty million dollars per year from the us tv rights. Which is maybe In he brought six hundred forty five million which is still a good amount but over the course of seven years. That's seven hundred million dollars left on the table that didn't that didn't come in and now pandemic impacted it. The nfl rights impacted it. But it's still from gary bettman standpoint. Give him credit for getting turner. Hispan- today But also don't give him a pass for saying like. Oh this stave taki no. Is it a good deal. But it's not the great deal with that that it's not a great deal that is gonna that is going to get rid of the flat cap anytime soon or anything like i rambled there but no you're right. You had a bunch of points. It better than i go by what. What's the saying like. The hockey is the greatest sport. But the nhl is like the worst league like. It's it's the product sells itself like you watch connor mcdavid scape really vast do something in a million miles an hour like that is such a a a remarkable athletic feat that anyone that's like a regular human being that is interested in competition in sports and cool stuff on television or their laptop or their ipad or the phone is going to be like interested in that it's up to the league and an internet broadcasting partners to enable people to get access to that in like in a palatable way where you can watch it easily and respect it and and enjoy it and league needs to do a better job of that either really really good point on this actually because the the league has the so just to kind of actually a story that i can say this now because this'll publish this whole story coming up tomorrow morning. I was given a demo recently of the nhl sap coaching insights and in that app. They track and coach can pull up in track. How fast and how far a player has stated that given game in. So i have a graphic from. I'm going to read this year right now while we're talking. I have a graphic from the Let's say the connects oilers games from earlier. This season where it shows me. The max speed mcdavid hit on each shift like he hit twenty point six miles per hour. Twenty point six twenty two point two twenty one twenty two miles per hour And like like just things like that were if that data is cool like that is. That is the type of thing. Where like it's in the coaches i had. What are the coach. Why do the coaches care. How fast he's going. That does nothing for them. Why are we like wow. He looked really fast. Blue buyer defenseman. Let's quite fi the speed of that so that will but why. Why do they care about. No let's put that on the broadcast that makes it's one thing to say. Oh connor mcdavid fast. It's another thing to go input into a broadcast and be like. Hey he's going twenty three miles an hour other. That's that's that's the type of thing where it's like. Okay that means something like it's it's just there's so many things now that the league has these this inventory of data and stuff like that. That is really cool that they could use to tell some stories that they just have never done it. And hopefully the changing of the broadcast partners. Hopefully the hopefully that kind of in hopefully some fresh minds who haven't run hockey broadcasting gets some hands on this hopefully that that leads us to actually using some of this stuff and actually kind of being able to take that. Step like okay. Well let's let's take some this year. There's some things that work. Let's let's look at what we need to do. What was what. How do we get that kind of casual fan interested in in making things enjoyable to them and wowing them and being like. Hey you know. What like i thought one of the i know a bunch of stars fans are really excited for example like when the goal that denis gurianov scored to send the stars to stanley cup final that came in at one hundred and nine miles an hour that is that is a astonishing number. Why don't we hear more about that. Why why why. Why don't we bring more things like that into the broadcast. As opposed to like bring it up the one nugget. everyone's alike from analysts perspective. I think the value is overblown. Because i don't think it matters. Sarah how fast the shoots link from storytelling perspective. Because an days when you throw a hundred miles per hour wow that was cool seeing the news one hundred and two miles an hour. It says on my screen. That's a cool show like entertainment. Like i'm watching. Espn on the background right now. Watching like so. I'm watching the guy pitch pitch. I will have no idea how fast that pictures. But if they do if the exact same pitch if they put one four ninety i would have no idea but if they put one four. I'm like oh wow that's cool flake like it's a big number and it's also makes you realize that you cannot do that as a regular person and this is why you should be watching the pros do it. Because they do better than we can. So yeah and i think that's a good note to end on. I'm i'm cautiously optimistic. I think the league needed a seat at the table here. And certainly like. I think with nbc's coverage obviously can tell like the writing on the wall and This was going to be the last year as some of the programming has been especially this year has been just so lackluster that guy. Hov right to wanting and hoping for war in terms of the us covered so hopefully get that and they embrace this as a new first starting opportunity to implement some creative strategies. Sean that's going to be for today. Show this is a busy guy. I'm gonna let you keep enjoying your Your unhealthy snacks. While you've got your force pillar to yourself. And what's your what's your handle again. It's sean bureau right. Feral yup else. And you've got the you've got the story coming up the people check out so this is a blast man. I'm glad i'm glad we got to do this. Let's check in down the road. Maybe i'd be like an offseason. Podcast for us is going to be really good in terms of talking about random business stuff. I'm looking forward to a sixth time. Cast dmitri filipov follow on twitter at dinner. Philipovich add on loud at soundcloud dot com slash. Dpd okay

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179: Dallas Stars Fire Head Coach for Being Unprofessional??  Sens' Most Impressive Win

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179: Dallas Stars Fire Head Coach for Being Unprofessional?? Sens' Most Impressive Win

"Steve Worn Project sports at whatever everyone welcome to our show always devoted a sports and whatever matters to the Ottawa sports fan by gum. It's happening here. Totally unfiltered Ma- maybe a little filtered. I'm Steve Steve Worn long with Jim. Jerome one of the rare daily podcasts out there and we thank some outstanding local businesses work live in your community and they support the hell out of us. Jim K FORD RB computing and all Insurance Ontario. Don't forget our website or any questions you might have about the show. Jimmy Steve W PROJECT DOT COM coming up. Today we'll get into some interesting. NHL Issues another coach with poor conduct. Jim Gumri has been fired by the Dallas Stars for for unprofessional conduct. The NHL is basically announcing a zero tolerance policy on abusive behavior The New England patriots intimate hot hot water for filming and other teams sideline and a whole lot more including island returning to Toronto. Are Things James Stevie Bill Paying Day Steve. I thought like I said I was just threw them in the drawer. They would go away so I got the th remains the three main bills right the two utilities the power of the water under the heat. And all that. It's a couple of different bills and then tell us okay for my Internet and TV and whatever else is on there. So it's the same every month. Steve or not okay or not so. I'm looking back Steve. I remember I remember. I flipped over from Shaw and I flipped over because a kid showed up my door one one summer and said we don't seven months free camera. Ah I said okay. That's an odd delivery. Yeah that's what deals more deals more deals so I said sure. Switch it over and so you end up getting sort of this seven or eight hundred dollar advantage right my built my bill and then the meantime I certainly recall Steve. You're going to get a bill for you. Got To sign a contract this contract so it's going to be one hundred and twenty five bucks a month. That's low. I gather other compared to most people. Tell me about other. I don't know what your bill is but with all their Internet services and stuff anyway Steve Just I just blindly pay it. Of course right you get at the bill and I'm looking at two hundred and fifty three so I've been with these guys for a few years. Now I'm looking back over my bills. And Steve Steve. It's a little. It's a little two dollars here. It's a little finance deal here. It's a little. I don't know what the other one was X.. Additional additional cost for fifteen bucks. Here they just keep slippin this shit in there stevie a little back door on you to go a little back door that drives me crazy. 'cause you know if you're dealing with a another person man-to-man good handshake look in the eye. You would never treat another person that way way you know. How much do you want for your Little Red Wagon? It'll be fifteen dollars Sir sold. Let's shake on it and then money changes hands and then as you're changing enhance the guy slips around your back pocket and pulls a twenty out and he goes. Yeah of course we think that was worth. That'd be worth having a fistfight over and yet league's bills. That have a million surcharges. It happens all the time and it just keeps going keeps going up and up and of course the the hilarious thing is of course you would never say it but can it ever go down you can. Can I get a little ten dollar charge back to me. Can I get a little credit. No Sir no no. Don't don't be ridiculous. Who Even if you have an outage? How about an outage cable go out for a day? We've all had that happen. I don't see that one day redemption that one day rebate for actually not having the service. Yeah Yeah I don't know I don't know what conflicts is pretty good. I may be up a buck or two now. I don't know I think when I signed up for Netflix. With seven or eight bucks a month I haven't looked I don't know how I paid for it either. The bank account or credit card. I'm not sure but but I think it's under ten still. If you only have one feed your feed you have the more you pay. Yeah that's their new play but that's fine that's fine at least they're giving you the option Steve. Sure there's not this automatic. Oh Yeah No. The monthly bill has changed. Thanks for that. Yeah I was. Hey Hey who's phoning who here. Yeah I didn't I didn't call just to say hello okay because you're ding me. It never bothered me. Steve Never bothered me until I don't know I don't know till till today would eat hundred fifty three. I thought it was one hundred twenty five dollars. I thought it was a contract. Oh so one of my favorites debt recovery fee. So you're telling me that your mismanagement of expenditures verses revenues. You're mismanaging that you're gonNA download that on me. How has the debt recovery fee work all of a sudden? That's on me. I don't like that I don't know I I don't let me let me read. What Steve What Bill? You're going to hear a little a little. Tell us one okay. So what was I was looking back. What was the one hundred twenty five bucks now? One hundred and fifty three Steve. Okay and it's so it's it's a internet okay. Seventy five bucks tell us TV fifty six okay. So that's one hundred thirty one bucks other charges and credits so they put the word credit in there Steve. But it's always. It's always a done to them right. There's no grenadier. Oh Yeah and then of course the GST and the St Right so which. I did Scammer Rama. Ding Dong Says H. S. T.. What does that? What's H. E. Harmonized? When did that happen? Am I out of touch. No it's the children who were all right right. We should jump into the program here. We've got lots coming up in just a moment. I I want to thank some great sponsors. Also Your S. WPA heads up for today you gots. It's on Wednesday December eleventh. 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So that is not to be lumped in apparently according to the stars with the previous guys that are kind of involved in inappropriate behavior the bill peters thing the it's not why Mike Babcock abqtalk fired but certainly after he was fired. All kinds of allegations of inappropriate behavior came there as well but this is apparently something entirely different that the Dallas Stars don't seem to want to talk about. Yeah I you know I seem to want to fall into the same take. I've had for the last two weeks on this this thing right and I'm going well you know I always believed more was going to come out now this thing. They're adamant that it's a separate issue. It sounds like something that happened happened last week. Yeah so whether it was perpetuated by the the news and the awareness now of this sort of thing coming up But I guess in in the end what's what's the big picture. What's what's this all mean? You Know Steve that this is happening. In the world of sports now this thing will extend its arms to due to all sports right that the NHL has quickly expedited this announcement of Batman's saying also if you don't report incidences now you're going to. You're going to suffer severe penalty right. So they're taking a hard stand he you know it's not Obviously with all the debate about whether like yesterday went on Dare McCartney all the NHL Zach. No no fuck we have to take this road right here. This is what we're going to do. So The Times are changing Steve. The Times are changing and and Although people always feel that the era they're living in is the time of most change it also. It's always the same but I kind of look at it. This way. Steve when I think back to the seventy s when I first got my license so so I got it right away when I was sixteen. One thousand nine hundred seventy seven. The seat belt law was not around then and but then it was that year. Remember getting a no seatbelt ticket and go. You're kidding me. When did this happen? You know and people were kind of outraged outraged by it. I remember that they were going. This is a cash grab. This is ridiculous this is you know the times are changing right. Now we're the Bob Blah Blah Blah Blah. But eventually of course course everyone knows about it. Now right sees a non issue you know and and I think that we're going to look at this this thing in in a year from now or something or two years from now and it's going to be outright while he broke the broke the rule right that the way coach now. I don't know if this thing's rampant rampant not Steve. I gotTa admit this weekend. The great one was in town. There was much again. You know. There's a bunch of people always come down to see him and other hockey players were there and there are a bunch of guys talking about other coaches who who they had as coaches it when they were pro saying these guys were worse far. Worse than what you're reading in the news and and it's hard to know what's going on here because the Dallas Stars can go ahead and say that has nothing to do with all the bill peters thing eight eight to put it all on bill. Peters here's but his was the most dramatic ace the most offensive. I thought But how can you. How can you not connect to some degree like this thing happened last last week with Montgomery the stars were made aware of it on the weekend they conducted an investigation and they decide to fire this guy on the very day Eh? Gary Bettman like you talked about addressed all these topics with the board of governors. That that they're immediately going they just basically. We're not tolerating any abusive so behavior of any kind and there'll be zero tolerance for any failure to notify us. In the event of such failure. The club and the individuals involved can all expect severe disciplined so to me. You know you can say that all you want if you're the Dallas Stars no matter what it is. Jim Montgomery did. I gotta think think there's a connection here. Well the tongue in cheek. You know the guy who commits the infraction. In this case coach. They're not coming forward saying. Hey Hey I did this. So someone reports you know someone someone sees it someone. Someone is experiences it takes it firsthand and then and then reports it so I would tend to agree with you that there are saying Steve the other day that is going to the town of people listening to this. Oh my God our coach. He does this he does this he does that. And how are they going to react to it you know. So what are the issues. Here's past players. Who are coming forward which I completely fuck and disagree with on a lot of what they're talking about I I don't on other some of his stuff but I think you're right Steve. I would think a guy would probably was saying I'll tell you. What every every frequent practice? What is this guy? Does what other coaches have been fired for yet. I mean I don't know that that's the case but I do know that whatever happened. It may be that it may be Any a number of things however I think this thing that Bettman put forth is caused by the whole wave from the bill. Peters thing and this I will think about coaches That that's why this thing was put in place and Batman's new concepts that wasn't lost on the Dallas Stars. A guy like Jim. I'm Neil for example. He's made aware of it. And I've got A. I've got to act swiftly and I've gotTa Act harshly and now the commissioner is saying that the NHL Dell's going to formulate a mandatory annual program on counseling consciousness raising education and training on diversity and inclusion Asian that must be attended by all NHL Coaches all assistants. All GM's all assistant. GM's as well as minor league coaches under contract with an NHL team team. Yeah so that that's basically for those of you who have been minor hockey coaches or minor. Sports Coaches Hockey Canada's a thing called speak-out that's basically what the NHL L. now asked to do the guys in power now have to take a speak-out course effectively. It's I understand that Steve. It's the equivalent of you know something happening in school. Bullying for example right bowling. Bullying has been going on since ever. I've I've remembered. I got bullied almost everyone. I know got bullied at at some point and now of course they've they've done this tremendous campaign anti-bullying campaign right. That's been going on for a long time. And and a a lot of the reason is that people are blaming these kids but a lot of parents come forward to teachers go. Look we've got we've got educate these kids we've gotta to make them aware we've got to prepare them for this sort of stuff we gotta tell them the signs of what's happening. We've got to show them that you know what what what you're experiencing is not not right. You know when when a kid gets bullied then goes home and doesn't say anything you know so the education system has to take this severe severe but very deadly serious position that we have to. We have to let everyone know though so everyone feel safe. You know it feels like it's a safe environment and there's no doubt in my mind that that Gary Bettman is saying you know if we don't deal with this thing it's going to be a Woodpecker woodpecker in the back of her head. It's going to just keep pecking away. Pecking away unless we come out and WHAMMO WHAMMO with a really big powerful statement. And that's what he did. That's what he did today and such a good thing and it'll trickle down. I think to minor hockey as well. That 'cause you take all the courses you want want is not going to change until attitude start to change and these severe penalties that Gary Bettman is talking about that will be the thing that changes things because that was will lead to changing ideas What's tall what's tolerable and what's not? Because what like for example I go through the speak-out course and I said to myself off while doing it. Well this is all common sense and I know that the guys on the room that might be in kind of the guys that would do this. Sort the thing these ina inappropriate things as coaches. They're not going looking at this going. That's me that's me on the on the screen. They're the guys on the screen sample. Minor coaches coaches are going bonkers on the kids just like reading the riot act. Humiliating them. I don't think that anybody when they're in those settings. I don't think they see themselves in in those nut bar coaches. Yeah you can always have these things. But the fact that they're putting in extreme penalties and and just the court of public opinion. You got with guys like bill. Peters I think that's GonNa Change and that's why on my my side of the ledger. I don't mind and people coming forward and giving their story because the more times that happens the more time the quicker it'll change the environment the climate the attitudes. It's kind of intangible way so I think it's all good the end of the day. Yeah it's crime stoppers Steve. Yeah remember when you know crime. I came a long years and years ago right where they started saying. We're going to let people know what's going on here right of Detroit solve some of this stuff but but one of the great things they did was this anonymous tip line people who are prone to not give a crap who don't care about doing the right thing they're not they're not shutting it down because it's the right thing to do shutting down because of things like you talk about crime stoppers or because there's a camera there like they're doing. They're not doing it because they're worried. What about getting caught and with everybody thinking about it and everybody in a zero tolerance state of mind? Well that is going to make AAC the next coach who might be abusive if he thinks he can get away with it. Think twice about it totally you bring up the camera thing thing you know London London England what they call their. CCTV chief camera setup. They've got like thousands thousands and thousands of cameras downtown downtown. You know I read a stat not too long ago Steve. That and I'm not I'm not embellishing hair. Air That you on a twenty four hour period or your normal day that you're on camera something like fifty or sixty times somewhat well somewhere some you know if you walk around the market for example you know you walk to your car. There's probably a dozen around there somewhere. Okay that's one that's one little trip. That's a little thirty second. Walk to your car. Never mind every story rat highway a photo stuff and literally. Every intersection has a camera right. Yeah like I just got nailed A. I've got a fact. I put on twitter just now. There's there's a change this zone speeding zone in my neighborhood and by school. It's thirty kilometer Steve from seven in the morning till nine nine o'clock at night. Okay which is kind of ridiculous right seven days a week Steve. There used to be sort of adjusted hours of speed. The school times and people are going bananas like you can run faster than thirty meters and our and I get what Steve Other little picture of me in my car like my buddy said I'd snap a picture. Media snapped a picture of the money. I sent it back to them all right. Let's change gears a little bit here James to talk a little. NFL and the New England Patriots while the famous for deflategate and spy gate and they seem to be in the middle of another hot mess. Some of the fine-mesh you've gotten us into right It considered one of their video. Crews filling the sideline of the Cincinnati Bengals Post game on Sunday and things have only gotten messier and more suspicious. Since according to the athletic tape from the Patriots Film crew contains eight. Minutes of of direct bengals sideline footage and sources who viewed the recording say that it shows Bengal players running on and off the field as well as coaches calling place and so eight minutes of direct sidelined footage a lot for it to be a mistake or an accident. The Patriots are saying the film crew grew wasn't aware of league rules and unintentionally violated. NFL Policy. So what do you think of that you know. I think it's over the top that that that they're looking at New England saying okay this is. This is a great act here that you're filming our team. Steve We've teams have been looking at other teams films for years for years. Okay and they they got they get stuff together stuff from it right right. They they they look at the last game. Okay we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA sit down and look at film of Cincinnati or whoever it is because we play them this week and here's the film of their game last week and for sure they sit down steep There's as a matter of fact I toured the oiler dressing room and there's a whole studio the room is unbelievable by the way this new arena. It's just like no dressing I've ever seen but and there's a student with thirty seats in it. And so they can bring everyone players coaches everyone and they look at the team right and they go. Okay see this here okay. This is third and five. Okay see the setup right here okay okay. Every time they do that they do. A fucking flea flicker. Okay do that. So if you see that setup this week okay watch for it. Is that that much different. Steve Than than you know what I mean. It's like I mean they've they've baseball baseball. Does it all day man all day along where they they watch they watch film of a game and and they see the way the catcher sets up they see the situation Asian man onto out every time. That happens the guy throws fucking down in a way. Yeah there's no question it's it's not a big leap from all that because that's readily available video footage that every every team does get into in video sessions and just look at their own video. They look at the video of the other team and do the whole pre scouting thing but it is i. Guess when you do directly Recording what's going on for another team's sideline stuff I gotta think that there's a a lot more information that you can glean from that to the point where the NFL made it illegal. I I don't quite see it I I I know what they say. They're issues signed stealing in baseball. Yeah you've got a guy in second right. You guys have been stealing signs for years right. And they're you know we'll make a different fucking sign. I I don't know I don't know to me I. I don't think baseball is very far away. From having earpieces with the pitcher and the catch right and the the pitches have been called in from from the Radioed in football football so There's there's there's many ways to do it. Good money. Steve Little earpiece piece for pitcher. I don't hate that but I think in this is just. It's already hard enough to keep your information from getting out there to the other team right right and I guess it's just a I think it's just an aide the NFL is just trying to make it easier for teams to keep things secret to retain. That's why they don't let cameras go in at practices this is and allow team to prepare a little too much and this is the same kind of thing they may they may. They may have come away from this thing and really got nothing. Nothing new but the potential is there that you can get something That you wouldn't have gotten a otherwise but see coaches all the time you know. They're they're cognitive they're on TV anytime. They're calling something into to the quarterback or communicating with the press box. They have their you know their play sheet. And they'll put up in front of their mouths. Your her right to keep anybody from reading lips base all love in front of the face at the measure. Exactly so I I think it's I don't think it's the end of the world per se but this this is a rule break. It's something you're not supposed to do. Do your pre scouting get the video. That's available work with that and beyond that becomes unreasonable. And that's why the League intervenes. You think you think of football and they do a double reverse Steve. Okay so double reverse. Of course the quarterback you know falls falls back out of the pocket flips. It to a guy was running behind him to his left and then dude flips it to the guy running behind him to his right double river right. I'm always disappointed when they fake it. I I wanted to see the double reverse dammit right so often often. You'll see a linebacker flat. In the second guy. Ten yards we aligned to scrimmage right and you know and don't blame this guy who sat for three hours and watch film the week before of your game you don't so there's no there's no way he figures that play out unless he sees the film of the team right so okay even go after New England fuel. I don't I don't see it as a big you know I. I really don't see it as a big thing. You know. There's no mind. Steve that coaches go on what you know. Let's let's figure out what play they're running here. Let's figure it out and if that's to extend to a guy filming the team. I don't think it's very much different than watching footage of them playing the game. Yeah so and it's just a it's just another way that bill belichick is and he's denying everything he said. He hasn't seen any of this video. He had no who idea what they were up to. I had no idea they had shot. This is all being called spy gate too by the way and but I mean it would be standard bill belichick operating procedure procedure. That guy is almost obsessive with the amount of gain planning. He does. And that's part of why the Patriots have been great for so long this guy. I is tireless is. He insists everybody around him as tireless. No days off no days off and so that can sometimes take A form of maybe blurring the lines of what's legal and what's not deflate gate spy gate enough spy gate to these. These are all things that belichick dabbled in the past. And why should anybody be surprised about this one. What they got fined five hundred grand for was it spike aide? I'm not sure what the fine was on that one. Yeah they got fine though and there was also like a it was a draft pick involved as well did they give up. That's right. What was I was biking what they do? I believe it was With the New York jets and they were basically going to practice sending adding video video gear to the jets practice to get ready and they got busted for it. Oh yeah again. I'm I'm I'm ambivalent on whatever boys whatever you know John Ambivalent about the deflategate too. It's like yeah okay. He gripped the ball a little better. Fine fine it's not really as they went in stabbed guy so they ripped off. Somebody's helmet and smash them over the head with it or or put a magnet but in the football and the guy had magnets on his hands. The receiver thing was ten yards off ninety sucked it right into his. I see I I see. There's a golf ball now for kids that you can set up. That has actually so it. Just sort of sucks the ball into the hole attract attract almost like a GPS and pulls the ball into the all for your kid. I said that'll be good 'til after about the third warning goes well. This is stupid. Goes the whole and it's just another example. How we won't let our kids fail? Hey isn't that the truth. Isn't that the true Stevie. Let's wrap up in a second and talk about but Kawhi Leonard and his return to Toronto. What second it'd be like emotional for him? I'm sure emotional for the fans as well first of all. I want to remind the good listener. We get some great sponsors sponsors like Jim K four. Don't sit at the season. Jim K four get out there and joy it all with a twenty nine thousand nine hundred Ford. They are loaded with driving technology style style. Comfort everything you need to tackle every seasonal adventure ask about great rebates on select New Twenty Nineteen Fifty Edge Escape Eko sport and ranger models during the Ford year end event at Jim Kaye. Ford you drive in Orleans or Jim K.. Ford Dot Com. You can shop around for insurance on your own. You could call the big companies companies in wait on hold forever or better yet. Text the team at all Insurance Ontario. Love being able to text them. 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He'll be making his return to Toronto for the first time since he laughed after helping guide the Raptors to their first NBA title last year. You know what's what's a little different. If the raptors went for Shit he'd probably get the hell out of him you know right. The Raptors were three and twenty. But they're Okay Right Raptors sixteen seven fourth or fifth in the conference. Sixth place or something like that so they're probably doing way better than people thought. What do you thicke six ninety? Six winning percentage. I'd say so game and a Half Ota the division lead. I did not expect this whatsoever. Yeah so I think they he loved guy you know I think they loved them and You know everyone's got their head around now for. I never understood stood it but we always at the end of a championship seasons go. That's great but he won't be here next year. You know what she's we paid a lot of money he's he's gone he's gone now. It's just like a given right standing O- or booing of standing on a massive standing up standing on the go get it'll it'll it'll be off the charts what if you're TSN turning point Steve. Maybe that Your Ottawa Senators. Knock off the bruins and doing so in impressive fashion. Yeah I feel marks for like they had to get a great goaltending performance at of Anders. There's Nielsen in that game. Over forty saves a lot of good ones right by for the second straight game against the BRUINS. The sands looked better team now. Maybe Boston is taking them lightly. Because well the sends have fallen on hard times of late but I I still look at the sense and I say to myself man if they had gotten off to such such a horrible start if a couple more finishers. I don't think there's far office. People think from being a team that competes for a playoff spot. They're they're they're proving a bunch of people wrong right now. They're not not done. That's for sure their season is not. Oh God no. It'll be interesting to measure up against the Montreal Canadians who you know. Not that long ago you'd say to yourself yourself well and you know they're not quite at Montreal's level well the habits of obviously fallen on some Some tough times last ten to six and two and Wealth moment they only have a five point. Lead on the sends and Let's be honest auto is still near the bottom of the standings but there really haven't been many nights this year. Where are they were outclassed? It was just like they just didn't get that one goal they needed. Because there's still a little shy of Of Real Skill Star guys up front. Who you know? Let's think about skill guys. They could disappear on you most nights but all the sudden they'll just show up on one shift and get a goal and over the course of eighty two games james that's frigging meaningful and the sends lack those guys right now but they're on the way it both in house and in future drafts but you gotta like if you're a sense ends fan what you're seeing right now. They're sort of in a no lose Steve. You know. It's like one of those years wherever and expects them to lose but they love the fact they're gonNA get draft picks but listen man you don't you don't need here Steve to make the playoffs to squeak into the playoffs. You know you don't have to you. Don't have to go crazy. You know what I mean. I'm guessing just above five hundred. Gets you in ninety nine point ninety points ninety three points. Something would be mid nineties. These I would say in all likelihood I mean right now. They're ten points behind Carolina which possesses the second Wildcard Carolina has a record of eighteen wins eleven losses and and One Ot so it's still a big time long-shot because they'll probably fall back into a slump because the scoring just wasn't there as we. I saw fairly recently. But Hey that's that's a feather in their cap. That's going to help the confidence that they can go out and compete with the Boston. Bruins of the world. I mean. That's the team that had only lost four games all year. Well that was number five the other night. Yeah that's that's telling. GotTa get the fans out though dead last in the NHL in attendance Y- he orders down to thank tended. Yes how's that finally a decent team to watch. Yeah they're just just well economy man. Yeah I mean it's you know I was talking with rusty other day. PODCAST US that that people are given tickets away. I think the example was Detroit so a guy will offer you free tickets and this is totally interesting that more often than not people are turning them down because it costs about three hundred bucks over and above that when you take someone to the game you know because it's like fifty parking when you're buying programs. Maybe three hundred bit high but but not much beers are frequent eighteen beer. You know each have a couple of beers you're interested. There's seventy fish right there dinner you sit down to dinner somewhere So people are actually turning down free tickets that's certainly happening here but with Edmonton having the kind of year they are would have thought that that wouldn't be as big an issue but I mean they're still doing okay. If I'm I've got the charts in front of me right right now and the team in the NHL that is leading the way. It's a bit of a surprise. Actually Chicago Blackhawks. Because well. They're not very good team but they're leading in attendance and it's right now at twenty one thousand three hundred fifty six the attendance numbers at hockey DB DOT com. Your oilers at seventeen thousand four hundred and four so the numbers are pretty decent overall especially when you compare them to the sends who are dead last six thousand shy where the oilers are at eleven thousand six six hundred thirty six. Wow that low you come on come up. Let's get out to the game. Yep I think there there's nothing you can talk about ownership or Melnyk or anything like that the purge letting guys walk letting sign somewhere else not getting deals done whatever. The the reason was for these superstars leaving but this team is emerging as an interesting hockey club and entertaining team. Lot of kids on the team that are stepping up and I and I'll put anybody's in their in their early twenties in the kid department. I look at a guy like Anthony. Declare has been just two more goals against the Bruins tons of fun to watch the Brady Chuck effect. Andres Nielsen is emerging as a number one goalie in the team. Got Him for almost nothing from Vancouver. Salata great storylines here and a lot of intrigue and I think you probably enjoy the rebuild more when they get back to playoff contention to be able to say you know what I was there in the early days. Unfortunately Steve for hockey teams. Okay good to watch great player you you know you get to watch the up incomers. That all means shit that I'll meet shit you know it's the best thing to fix all your problems. Particularly attendance is winning money. That's not not saying anything new there but winning breeds a lot of great stuff for hockey team. A million look at Phoenix man. Look at Phoenix Right. These these these guys were have been nowhere for a long time and They're playing great. You're playing unbelievable that that is exactly the Tako is going to conclude within that last little Soliloquy I just had but I think I forgot to get to that part that winning cure everything. I totally agree. Yeah winning inning win win five in a row and I I bet you you another thousand or two at the game for sure you know at the second biggest problem problem is that a pro sports franchise deals with along with not winning. You know because if if you're winning people show up the other thing is how good the TV home experiences. I think that's a massive competitor is so good now like it's just everybody everybody's able to pick up a massively large TV for under I five hundred bucks now. Oh I see oh to buy the the cost of the TV you know and it sounds and looks amazing. Your and your washroom is right there. There's no waiting in lines. You can go get your beer that you paid a buck a beer for at Costco Right. That is the biggest competitor after success on the ice the teams are facing acing. I think yeah you know I always thought that too. You know that. There's no doubt in my mind you know you're going to see way more watching a game on TV veep than sitting in the stands. There's no question right. You got these great replays and super slow Mo launch. It's been around for one hundred years you know but there's is nothing like the game. Experience gives you talked to a kid. You know talk to a kid and listen. We're GonNa you and me and your mom and dad we're going to get together around the TV tonight. We're going and watch the flames kids like I don't care you know I'll watch but how about this one you're going to the game right. The kids just light light up. Oh there's no there's no doubt I think you're right I it's it's way better but I'm saying the TV experienced at home has improved so much. It's closing the gap to compared to. When you and I were kids? Sure I might get a an instant replay on something. But it'd be all grainy and awful and at one time I couldn't rewind it like I can now all of that stuff right. Well it's like it's like curling you know if you go to watch a go go to watch curling live right. So you've got you've got choices a- all over the joint where to sit so it's it's one hundred fifty feed ice or whatever it is. I don't know how far the hockey rink couple hundred feet. I don't know how far they throw it. I'm so which circle DEA sit at Steve Okay so which rings which which ended the so you sit there and now you're looking at a side view you know if you're too low you get to see the players that's good but you can't tell where the rocks are it's awful right. It's just awful. So you get the overhead Cam. They have there so you can look up at the jumbotron so hands down hands down. For every argument there is to go to the game. There's a million that let's say you should watch it on TV but people love to go. They love to go. Because you get to dress up you get to drink. There's the there's people from all over the country come to watch you know the briars something like that It's it's an absolutely festive scene. You know when you go live. It's hilarious right guys run around the arena. There's there's more than there's there's more than just the characters there's hundreds of them hundreds of them there you know it's a different experience completely and curling's at an all time high you you know so we need to get to our computing web poll to wrap up the program today James. Did I read you this doing that. That I read this doc. I get confused if I guess I'm reading it on the cartoon about the the Guy Calling the game the hockey game. Oh Yeah Yup I read that on the show rentals yeah so it's it's called the new. NHL Chill rite and. It's a two guys with headsets. Calling the game and the Guy Says No. It's not a knee. It appears his feelings are hurt. And the team psychologists this is rushing out onto the ice dragon. His coach behind. That's great look at a lazy boy rb competing web poll today will be this which. NHL Team are you most surprised to see out of the playoffs right now. Is it the San Jose sharks the Nashville predators. The Toronto Maple leafs or the Tampa Bay. Lightning what say you James. Well everyone wants to cheer against the least out of that group. I'd say the Tampa Bay lightning that Cooper man. He may be in trouble. Yep I mean. I wouldn't be surprised. Surprised if they're raising an eyebrow in his direction right now to lose after the regular season they had and then to lose in the first round of Columbus in a sweep Columbus also by the away not in the playoffs. The ball is brought to you by our computing from computers to business networks and everything in between rb computing. Sol's tech related issues in record time and now for the holidays. Check out the. AMD reisen nine thirty nine fifty x the world's most powerful sixteen core desktop processor you. You don't know what that means Stephen. I made by one. It sounds awesome. It sounds awesome. RV computing 235-minute and play sweet one. Oh six bells. Corners mentioned the Red Wings and Steve is looking at the standings. Six points behind the entire league right now. They are ultra committed to get that number one pick overall six points behind who the whole league. Oh okay I took that as their leading what. They're no no when you say they're not blowing the doors off anybody that there's no question they have no dynamite. They're just you know Lynn please throwing rocks toward everybody's doors right right okay. Well we lock holiday the day right there James What do you tonight St? What am I doing I listen to this show Steven and see all my dump takes okay can use old so I won't see a week or so once. Yeah goodnight everybody. We'll see

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Top Ten Stories of 2019

ESPN On Ice with Wyshynski and Kaplan Show

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Top Ten Stories of 2019

"From the ice to your ear buds a podcast about hockey featuring things to do with hockey from your friends at Espn it's ESPN ESPN on ice with Shitski. And Kaplan is the podcast. ESPN talks about hockey. ECB NHL Writer. I'm Emily Kaplan National. NHL Reporter. And Greg I just have to give a disclaimer Tori listeners. If you're listening to this list thinking leave it you're gonNA get some gritty content that was twenty eighteen. Yeah among the also twenty eighteen Seattle was twenty eighteen. I was thinking maybe Seattle was that also sports gambling was two thousand. Eighteen is well. I thought that might have been this year but all those deals the NHL. Oh cut with various sports books for two thousand eighteen so those things do not make the cut unfortunately for they are ineligible for this list of the best of twenty nine thousand nine hundred but these ten things aren't and we begin wims weekly. Emily never ten we'll off seemingly every NHL team got a dog this year. Indeed Indeed Greg if we were GONNA do the deep dive history the anthropology of this incredibly important NHL trend. I believe we have to date back to Barklay. He was the the Saint Louis. Blues Dog and the Blues were the first team to get a dog. At least that's what they'll tell you and I don't think it was a coincidence. That they got him around the same time that they were in last place in the NHL. It feels like not necessarily a coincidence. You know maybe our team sucks but hey we've got a really cute good boy that you should root for and gives the reason for the blues. It's kind of crazy that the blues got an official team dog years after David backes laughed. You figure if he was there that that's when it would have happened but it was an adorable doorway pop and honestly I could watch video of sweet boys and girls trying to walk on the ice and had the little scatter scatter feet going. I watch that all day and now every team has one and it's really the best yet who doesn't WanNa Watch Tom Wilson snuggling. Anything am I right but Yeah those dog calendars definitely were the beginning of it and the capitals are one of the most recent teams to get a dog and I will not lie. I've seen on loop that picture or of their dog. Reuniting with Ovechkin after who knows how much time away like on loop sixty four times. It's the stupidest video it's like three seconds. The dog just walking down the hallway. But it's it's pretty great There's other teams dogs too. And you know. Let's just remember that they're doing this for a good purpose. These dogs are being trained being acclimated to being in crazy social. Oh situations and eventually supposed to go out in the world and do great things. The Rangers dog has now working with a kid with autism You know there's other great things. These dogs the being trained for. But I must admit I think Barklay is not going anywhere. I think he's sticking with the blues for the time being. I'm not sure what happened there. But good good for them for keeping active boy around the islanders. Dog Actually just ran for county commissioner. Isn't that crazy and one fantastic the the new arena. Actually actually. The dog wasn't was responsible for the bark lays center. I I feel I believe the epicenter for all. This is the players with puppies calendars. Don't you think that was the first inkling the first the first connection between hockey and pooches whereas as you know watching watching Tom Wilson's snuggle a puppy. Oh not penguins fans I said snuggle a puppy nuts mother when I was talking about. Tom Wilson the clarify. I know you might have heard differently. Never Nine on the top ten stories who sells nineteen the P. W. H P a professional women's hockey players Association This was huge news. Not only because A group of the best most elite women's hockey players in the world combined to create a new organization and combined to create a barnstorming tour of USA versus Canada Games to drum up support and keep those national teams in the Zeitgeist and route to not only the next world championships but also the next Olympics but because they banded together to say we are not playing in the National Women's Hockey League this this year and boy did some of them openly root for the demise of the National Women's Hockey League in the hopes that if the end of the US shell didn't exists that perhaps a w NHL could exist. Twenty nine thousand nine hundred was a tumultuous time for the landscape of Women's hockey it began Edwin the CW Ahl made the surprise decision to fold. And if you'll remember the CWA and whol we're rivals. It was a Canadian League North American an American league rather two leagues across North America. Dispersing the best talent and maybe diluting the product and never into SUMED. Okay once whol folds were finally get all the best players at once but these two hundred players roughly at the time said hey the whol is not what we WANNA play and this is not the Lee that treats US professionally. We cannot make a living wage in this league league. We can't even get things like laces on our skates or ice time. And we're taking buses to games and it's just not cool so they made the decision they said. We're GONNA take one step back to hopefully take one giant leap forward and do better for the game and and better for the next generation and I wonder at the end of the day like what the ramifications are. I think these players have been so shrewd when it comes to playing the PR game and drumming up support report and having public sentiment as the wind in their sails in trying to push the game forward. I don't think they came out looking that great in in this one especially when there are a number of women who just want to play and if they can make money great but just want on a place to play and know that maybe they're not good enough to play in and W NHL. Or whatever. I I feel like on the one hand. Banning together is great and the USA candidate series is great on the other hand they kinda looked a little cruel in some of their comments just regarding the players who decided to remain H. O.. Figured Hey if there's no star power there. If you're not getting the Kennel coins they met a councils souls you're not Succeed but look end up which is still standing. They say they're still growing. It's still a little murky on their finances but they're stroll there and I think in the end of the day what I'd love to see. Is these women to get their league that they want the sustainable league maybe a little bit of a Flasher League or Higher End League and why can't the NWEA shelby the Developmental League for that. Two D. League for them. It's interesting number. Ah Eight on our list of the top stories this year. Labor peace my God the Nhl is going to have Labor peace through at least twenty twenty two as the players and owners both opted not to reopen the collective bargaining agreement early Decided decided to keep it in place they both have the right to do so and the NHL 's a CPA will now run. Its course through two thousand twenty two. This is significant story. One because Labor Peace Gary Bettman are antithetical and you wouldn't expect them to coexist and chew because essentially we now. There's no hard scary deadline for the next couple of years and what you start hearing from the NHL Side of the ledger is the players aren't necessarily compelled to negotiate at this point. Yeah I like to call myself self the forrest Gump of journalism. Wherever I go big things happen I started at Penn State in the Jerry? Sandusky scandal broke. My first internship was in Boston at the Boston Globe. The same summer like Aaron Hernandez The Boston Marathon Tempe. Will you get where I'm going with us so of course when I become a hockey writer in the first time that a labor deal comes on the table The total opposite happens. Nothing happens so I'm just forrest gump here But did not make does allow me the two issues that really the players wanted and are so passionate about our escrow. We've heard that again and again and the Olympics and I believe the players came to the realization as was probably advised by their lawyers the Olympic issue is just not going to be solved in the CBA. It's not just you fighting against the NHL It's you funding into the NHL also to work with the which is a crazy corporation I and the IFC and all these different parties involved and we're just not going to care taking our CBA but the thing is still huge and these are the negotiations that are going on kind of scenes as well as things like the World Cup of Hockey And I think they'll get solved. I think we'll have a little bit. Of A recalculation of the salary cap and the inflators as an all that jazz. But it's not really sexy stuff to talk about and it really is kind of hit the back burner. Yeah it certainly has has So that was number eight number seven. This was something that a lot of us. Didn't think it was going to happen kind of hope that it would. The firing of Mike Babcock by the Toronto Maple leafs Babcock of course in the midst of a long term eight year contract Considered to be one of the best coaches in the world by some seemingly had more power on that team than many of the players in theory had more sway than his young general manager but that theory was proven incorrect. Mike Babcock turfed by the maple leafs in favor of Kyle do besides chosen one sheldon. Keefe are you. Are you still shocked this happened. Or after Joel Glenville gets fired by Chicago. Oh really anything can happen. I'm definitely still surprised Just by the timing however if there's anything of learned about tape beliefs is that there any chills best soap opera. And it's just it's like secession. It's a total power trip and learn. Anything about GM's is that they like to hire their own. Coaches is an truth be told Mike Babcock was not hired by Kyle Dube's and it was just a matter of time before the power play Swung and do business favor where he gets the opportunity to pick his first coach he gets the arbitrary to see it through. So that's kind of where we're at now indeed and obviously we'll be talking talking about That cock in a different context and a little bit but for now we will leave it. As the firing of Mike Babcock Super Genius of the universe at number seven number six the playoff officiating screw ups lead to two significant rules changes in the NHL. Let's take you back to last spring. Do you remember when we had that incident. Cody Eakin Joe. Pavelski situation in the Vegas San Jose game that led to a phantom five. I've been major being called everyone. The sharks scored all of those goals to get back in a game. They were clearly out of and then one in overtime Jabber. The missed hand pass in overtime of the Saturday series against the St Louis Blues. These are all things that happened in two hundred eighteen also happening in two hundred nineteen the NHL decided to dramatically increase the scope video review so officials on ice. I could see these things and fix them if they happened again. All seems Kinda crazy that it all happened this year but indeed it did. Yeah the thing. That was most notable for me. Liz just how quickly the NHL reacted something that we're not used to saying about the NHL but there was public sentiment. There was growing concerns with the players and the coaches and they were being vocal about it and the NHL reverse course like and put a fix on it in a swift and appropriate manner shocking. And I'll never forget Gary Bettman having a press conference where he said that he was. What was it grinding? His teeth watching it and so upset he wanted to punch his TV screen or something along those lines. And I'm like is this emotion from Gary Bettman thanked us. Yeah it was all pretty shocking. Talking it was it was but yeah I I have no problem with the NHL trying to get it right. You know I'm a fan fan of expanded replay within reason and I feel like in this case allowing you know the on ice officials to see if they missed a hand pass a critical juncture in overtime of the playoff off game. That's a good thing. So that's what it led to as usual catastrophe leads to change in the National Hockey League number five emily. It was the year of the a ten to the Dan. The Dan restricted free agent frenzy. The as he saw all kinds of star players vide Mika Rant and NBA Mitch Martyr Day. brayden point so on and so forth enter into somewhat sometimes contentious negotiations with their teams martyrs case like World War three and and then we also saw something. We rarely see in the National Hockey League and attempted Poaching Sebastian Aho signed. Let's remember you did signed Senate an offer sheet with the much Canadians that His owner Tom Dondon immediately. Said y'all know you're not getting them right and and Quickly matched the offer sheet for Sebastian. Aho Crazy summer really. I mean the kind of thing that you and I've been waiting for for a long time to happen some a Contract wacky and at least an offer sheet attended by the Canadians. Yeah honestly the biggest. Everyone was saying this is going to be the year of the offers she does the final rally there's just so many RFA's and so many balls in the air and and so many talented players that are up for grabs. It's going to happen and really the only only disappointment with the offer sheet was that it was so anticlimactic and to this day I contend that Mark Berge van was just doing a favor for the rest of the saying. We don't know about this Tom Dunn Guy. We don't know we operate it's all just see what he's about. Let's see if we can steal one Sebastian. Aho and soap went under him but The Carolina hurricanes are like now. We appreciate that you you set the price for us. You made this easy. Doesn't have to hold out and ended it pretty quickly so it was anticlimactic in that sense but fun while it lasted and fun for that. Bit of drama between the a two storied franchises in Montreal. End Rally And more offer sheets please. Even if they don't work just do them they're fun and maybe like if you do ten of them like that will be one time where you actually get the situation where the team can't afford the contract. which is I think we're implant ten times? They might win nine. We're GONNA give can offer sheets. They might take one might take one right number four on our countdown of top stories thousand. Nineteen it's the coaching reckoning. This was one that hit very late. Obviously we're talking in particular about the bill bill. Bill Peter. Situation and Calgary where Chemo Lou accused Peter's of using racial slurs towards him while they were both in the American Hockey League story that was corroborated by two of a lose teammates and then later on Peter's was accused of Kicking and punching players while he was head coach with Carolina Hurricanes story that was corroborated by none other than his assistant coach. Now head coach of their gains Rod Brindamour as as a result Peter's tendered his resignation with the flames and was replaced by assistant coach. Jeff Ward. That was one domino that fell than we had had the Mike Babcock situation where his mental abuse of players was brought to the forefront particular. Johan Franson Star player for the Red Wings. When Babcock was the coach saying that he had a nervous breakdown on the bench and he was afraid to go to the arena while playing for the red wings because of the abuse he took from Babcock and the other thing? Of course the infamous list that Babcock had michener create with the leaves in which he was to rank as a rookie rank his teammates as far as their effort on the ice elicited babcock then shared with the players that were on the bottom of that list situation that required him to apologize when the matter I was brought to leafs management. Finally there was the Mark Crawford situation where Crawford was suspended. Well okay Put on administrative. I believe let's call it by the Chicago Blackhawks for a few weeks as they looked into situations where he had kicked and choked players in in the past and used a homophobic slur towards a former player. Patrick Sullivan This resulted in a pretty remarkable moment later in the investigation nation when the Blackhawks announced that he would be returning in early. January and Crawford penned a letter on the Blackhawks website talking about in what he used to do as a coach and talking about the therapy. He's been for the last nine years to try to become a different and better person person so all this stuff happening all at the same time. It was a chaotic time. There was also unrelated to these matters. The Jim Montgomery a Firing Dallas that happened at the same time and and so crazy. Sweeping changes in the coaching ranks. Emily conversation for a lot of us about hockey culture. And what's most interesting to me. It's a conversation that hockey players may be weren't totally totally ready to have a lot of these allegations specifically the most damning ones didn't come out in a very direct way. They were third hand accounts for for example. The Johan Franson one just came out because Chris Chelsea Barstool Sportsmanship podcast. You ones like the ones against Mark Crawford Bird which had been previously you know mentioned off hand and not in the right context for example Brent. SOPA walked back thing. I actually said this one's a joke. I didn't didn't mean to throw him under the bus Mitch Martyr. One was obviously reported on by the Toronto Media. So all of this is to say players aren't exactly comfortable coming out forward but I do you think that this spurred a lot of introspective thinking where people are saying okay was the way I'm treated totally right. Do I have a voice. Can I take agency in this and I do think going forward. GM's are going to be a lot. More careful in their hiring of coaches in coaches are going to be a lot more careful and their tactics run players knowing that there watch Indeed number three on our list of the biggest stories of twenty nineteen. This is kind of a combination the nation of two things. Yeah the Columbus blue jackets going all in acquiring Matt you Shane Acquiring Ryan those ingle. Aw doing all this. Knowing that are tiny Pinera and Sergei Broschi were Gonzo in the center as free agents. They did this. They made the playoffs and subsequently kick the Tampa Bay lightning right in the teeth sweeping one of the single single greatest regular season teams the NHL has ever seen out of the playoffs in four games. Tampa Columbus all all in Tampa all out the number three story. But you thousand Nineteen Greg. If I remember correctly you were there for game for the deciding game four correct I was there for games three and four in Columbus. What I WANNA know if you could? which locker room did he go? And what's your lasting memory of what the scene was like. I definitely went to the lightning locker room. Because they'll pop champagne with Bob and bread for as a proud native of the Great State of New Jersey. I understand the language of misery and like the wallow in it so the lightning lightening room like listen. I've covered stamkos before and seen him devastated. So this wasn't really that revelatory for me but seeing like Nikita Kucherov for example and and seeing how he reacted to it and knowing that Ah that suspension that he had in the series was was a big moment as well and just seeing people that were just shell shocked and the guy will always I remember as John Cooper the coach who had to kind of make heads or tails of this thing. And anyone. Who's WHO's talked to Cooper Cooper talk knows that he's a very very analytical guy and introspective guy and thinks big picture about some things and you know to hear a coach p like like we were too good to be able to handle adversity which is essentially what you're saying when you're saying that we didn't play any important Norton Hockey for the last two months? You're basically saying that we were so good that we didn't know what to do when when when it got bad is one of the more opneing statements. I think I've heard from a coach and doing this job. But it's probably true when you compare it to a team like Columbus that scratched and clawed just to make the playoffs versus the Tampa Bay lightning sin fat and happy on a yacht for two months. I'd say the oral history. The inevitable oral history from this playoff series will be incredible incredible just because of the ramifications. I mean we're already seeing it. We kind of knew what was going to happen to the Columbus Blue Jackets. Once they let all of those players walk they did put in a pretty nice attempt attempt to keep Matthew Shane around. But they're in bad shape right now. They're not a good hockey team and they're devoid of a lot of talent. A lot of draft picks for what You know they wanted to do last year and maybe it was all worth it for that playoff win but maybe it wasn't. Meanwhile the lightning just haven't recovered and you know they're tracking right now as a team team. That might miss the playoffs if they don't get it together and that's Leschi hasn't quite been himself. Kucherov hasn't quite been himself since and I almost wonder if they're going to be one of the biggest. What what if In hockey history of look at all this talent that was a mass on one team. What if they were able to realize it and win multiple Stanley Cups? But why couldn't they uh-huh never to story of two thousand nineteen ready for it. A couple stories laughing touchdown. It's the firing of Donald Cherry by Rogers Sports Net. This was something that happened in November. Remember Don Cherry. Canada's most polarizing flamboyant and opinionated hockey commentator was fired for calling immigrants you people in a television rant in which he said that new immigrants are not honoring the country's fallen soldiers wearing the poppy. This is the Straw that broke the cherries back. There have been a number of other situations through the years in which Don Cherry toed the line in this situation. Business caught up with him Like we talked about on the podcast at the time. Rogers sports that have been courting a very diverse audience the demographics the graphics of Toronto had dramatically changed through the years as far as sports consumption. Look at the crowds that gathered in the public squares. Here's to watch the raptors and look at the crowds gathered in the public squares to watch the leaves and you knew that there are audiences that Rogers had to reach that they weren't reaching currently and having the face of hockey coverage on their network refer to those potential customers as you people bad eh for business out goes Don Cherry much chagrin of a lot of people in Canada who then all subscribe to you. Don Cherry's podcast. After he left the airwaves yeah put it simply. He was an institution and it is shocking to see an institution Asian crumpled that quickly I think it's fair to say this is not the most offensive thing he has said on air he has said far more offensive things but just the timing iming of it. And the way was received at that time ultimately lead to his demise. And I don't find it to be coincidental that just a few weeks later. We have the situation with the the chemo. Luke coming forward against Bill Peters the racist language Hughes against him which was a decade earlier and US having that conversation at all comes uh-huh under this umbrella about inclusiveness and hockey and we know that hockey has a diversity problem but are those in hockey and those with platforms. Doing their best took break those barriers and truth is not everybody is so that was a conversation that I think was important and did progress with forward But it did lead to this very shocking moment which leads lands at number two on our list. Indeed that means there's only one left. What could I can't believe? It's not the dogs but not the dogs It's not World Juniors Oh Yeah it's Battino won the Stanley Cup that. Oh that's the Saint Louis. Blues winning their first couple of franchise sister is number. One story of the year could be a lot of things but honestly like let's got a happy note right. Well I mean not happy if you're like blackhawks fan but happy for like a blues fan or human not to see the blackhawks are human. I'm just saying that is a story that anyways. The Blues won the Cup and it not only was a moment where this franchise that had suffered through so many disappointments through the years. broke through and finally hoisted the championship. Much like The Washington capitals that one year previous but we had some amazing stories. We had Charles Gland blend the the anthem singer with multiple sclerosis. who was in his last run and as long as the blues kept winning he would keep singing and that we had the layla? Leila Anderson's story The little girl with the very rare disease who served as an inspiration blues players throughout the playoff run and ended became a celebrity in her own right through the process So many great stories so many amazing moments and on top of it all. Emily only a team. That in this calendar year was in last place and roared back on the strength of great coaching from Greg. Craig Ruby Eh Greg goaltending from Jordan Bennington an MVP performance from Rhino Riley in the playoffs to win Lord Stanley Cup advert in the NHL. Loves that Thanksgiving Stat. But I felt like this year not as many people use it. Maybe the blue of the people who finally took it out of vogue. Their turnaround was quite. It's simply remarkable to be able to follow up on. The Golden Knights did a year earlier and to shock the hockey world from being a team with such little expectations to be a team. That was just so hard not to route. Four is pretty incredible feat and that's what the blues did They were a likeable team. There are a veteran team. A lot of guys who have been there a long time had saw Lauda winning seasons but I just couldn't get over the Hump and to be there on the ice when they want. It was really special for me and special for the city of Saint Louis and all I have to say I'm not sick. A play glory at I could still listen to it. I know they were tired. Like if it played right now I wouldn't be upset. Boy that was a weird thing. Man got it like told me nearly five years ago. Oh by the way the Saint Louis. Blues Stanley Cup champions there anthem and early eighties disco tune ups. Like like come on there you go. It happened the weirdest thing about it. Was that the artist lower bragging I believe it is had passed passed away and then her old manager is running your social media account as if she was still alive very very bizarre and it was the most the most wonderful part about that was the fact that her old manager who was running her account was getting like interview requests from people. Hey do you wanna come on. You know big ted in in Google but on on K.. Xm To talk about. You Know Gloria Dad like unless you're going to have an on air. I don't think she's available but there you go weird. Things happened for the blues. Emily and I ate a lot of toasted Ravioli. Good Times I delete it right now. If it was in front of me. Yeah I try to eat it as much as I could but every time I you know I would have to wait five minutes into the intermission and then it would be gone because hockey writers is why we can remedy that the all star game this year darn tuten eaten all right. 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Nov. 22, 2018: Early Changes Behind Benches

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Nov. 22, 2018: Early Changes Behind Benches

"No cookies for me Amel, no whiskey. No cookies is there a Cup of coffee getting cold. Eliot you write about a plenty. It is the headline issue of the week around the NHL, comma, so far we'll see what happens with the rest of the week. It's been eventful one Todd McCullough out Ken Hitchcock in Oilers win their first game against the San Jose Sharks. Not sure if there's any clues in there, but how Hitchcock is gonna coach his team. What's your thoughts on Ken, Hitchcock taking over behind the bench and Edmonson? I was surprised simply because you're sitting there thinking of all the people that they could go to and Hitchcock was not the person that you think of because quote, unquote, he was retired. But a few people I spoke to yesterday said that you can't take that seriously because Ken Hitchcock, there's nothing he wants to do more than coach, and maybe he is quote, unquote, retired. But if an opportunity to go back behind the bench presents itself. Everybody knows that. That's what can Hitchcock wants and lives for and craves to do. What's the line from hotel, California checkout anytime? You like, but you can never leave is that can hit them. That's a pretty fair way to put a great line. I wish I would have put it in the blog. If I would've thought about that he is wired to do this. He's not a consultant. He's not somebody who's gonna sit there and take notes, he'll do it if paid to do it. But what he wants to be is in the middle of the action. And there's no question that he was watching those games and saying I can fix this or telling anyone who would listen, I can fix this. And I don't think that the minority are going to change their coaching staff or their coach for anyone who they didn't think could get them to the playoffs. And if Joel Quenneville is not available, and you have to believe that either they didn't want to or couldn't get him. Can't Hitchcock is the kind of guy. His history has proven he gives your team a jolt right away. And that's what the Edmonton Oilers are hoping for the jolt that gets them into the postseason describe that jolt endless the roadway or the. Pathway for success with Edmonson is there in a lot of ways a couple of reasons. One the Pacific is a jump ball right now. No one seems to want to grab the Pacific. We've talked through. I'd cast a previous and two. They just played the first game against the Pacific Division rival on Saturday. That was the first game Edmonton played against someone in their division. So they can make up a lot of space. They can make up a lot of ground. They can do a lot of damage really quickly picked up their first win against the San Jose Sharks. Have Anaheim on Friday. And then you know, this last three quarters of the season a lot of it is against Pacific Division rivals. So it's there for them. But what's this jolt? The jolt is that their goals against go down. If you take a look at every single one of his previous jobs the first year or close to full year. He gets with a team. They have big drops and goals against it happened in Dallas it happened in Philadelphia. It happened in Columbus. It happened in Saint Louis had happened again last year in Dallas two years ago. The stars had the worst pen. Kill I believe in NHL history since they kept the numbers. It was seventy one percent last year. It was top five until Ben Bishop got hurt in March. That's the jolt. He makes you uncomfortable. He gets on you you remember when we tied Jason Spencer on and he talked about how good Jim Montgomery was in the film meetings. He's holding your attention like there's no preferential treatment ten even our acronym. He's trying to teach us from the ground up. He's got a unique system, and he wants to play a certain way, and he's holding your attention. I've been really impressed with the confidence that he's come in with and his ability to explain what he wants. I asked a couple of players. What's the day between Montgomery and Hitchcock? And they said that Hitchcock he's still loved to challenge you. He would come right at you. And he would expect you to come back at him and give it back to him. And he's going to be all over these guys. He said it yesterday. He said after the game last night my first year at. Hockey night. Call it the headliner then. Yeah. The first headliner I ever did is a hockey night in Canada employee was Ken hit Hitchcock coaching stars in Philadelphia. What it was like the coach guys like Jeremy Roenick and things like that. And you know, it was five dollars. So after the piece aired one of the players I saw them little bit later. And he said to me you missed the big question, and I go what's the big question. And they say he knows that on stoppages in play the cameras on them. He doesn't say a word. And then the moment the place starts, he's all over you. He is because he knows you guys aren't looking at him. And you watch that game last night our coverage of that game in San Jose. It happens they show him in a in a break while any looks pretty calm, but he will grind those guys. And obviously. Feel. That's what they need. I still wonder though, Jeff Pat Quinn was the same way, by the way. Yes. That trick. I wonder if they caught compared notes since they coach together, but their roster is the issue as much as the coach and they want to check and they wanna be more structured. Even with that. Are they going to be good enough? Well, here's the question to and this is the kick. It upstairs question did the Oilers get caught. Did they get caught in? We have Connor mcdavid. But our roster construction. Not unlike before when Jason Botterill took over they're kind of caught in this is rebuild. But the rebuild was from five to ten years. Previous big lumbering strong aggressive team as opposed to quick nimble, uptempo hockey. Like I had the same question that you do Elliot. The composition question. Do they have the horses to win in this NHL to eighteen to nineteen? I don't know they have one in mcdavid. They have one in dry Seidel. You know, they have another a handful of other players that I think can be successful in the game right now. How deep does that go though. It was interesting one of the other executives in the league said to me, we're gonna know right away with one guy, and that's Drake. Could you? Let's going to be interesting because could you had entered Hitchcock's tenure playing with mcdavid and dry Silom. And could you'll is not a big guy and Hitchcock likes heavy Haughey. Like, he's a big believer heavy hockey, but he said could Julius competitive. So he was curious to see how he would do under Hitchcock. Could you played seven minutes above his average in the first game? All right. So maybe Hitchcock thinks he's got a piece here. The most interesting thing to me was that third line that broads yak Lucia each Kassian Kassian line broads, Jack was four minutes above his average Kassian was three and Lou teach was about four minutes under his average. But he put him out there consistently on that line. That is a Ken Hitchcock line. You know this. He would love those three guys together aggressive for check face up against the gloss. Can he get anything out of them like to me ten dollars? That's a big question in Ken. He gets something out of that roster. Could he take a broad Zack Kassian Luce line and get something out of it? Because clearly early on that's one of his gambles. We'll do any know what caused the goalie now to he's the number one guy. He's a number one guy period. Well, he could've blown that game last night. And he. He held on. I think he's your guy team was resilient go down to tie down a puck tie Madonna puck tie. When an overtime. We will do ask thirty one a little bit later in the podcast. But to as a preview this comes in from Reese Albrecht Elliott, please elaborate on quote and McClellan didn't take it quietly. I think he was upset. Nobody likes to be fired. These guys have pride Todd McClellan. You look at the job of being the president United States. You take a look at Bill Clinton from when he took over two when he left George Bush from when he took over two when he left Barack Obama from when he took over twenty left. Those guys were all two-term presidents, and they aged more than eight years. Todd McClellan reminded me of a US president. If you look at him from the day he took over as head coach of the Oilers to the day. He was fired. He ate. Aged a lot more than three and a half years because losing socks it. Where's on you? And you know, we're guardless of what you think about McClellan as a coach. He poured his heart and soul into it. He really cared. And I'm sure not everything that happened was what he wanted to happen. And you know, this year was really hard that whole organization from the business side to the hockey side. It's been a hard place to work for the last year because of a lot of things that have happened behind the scenes and also because the team's losing. And I just think he was frustrated about some of the moves that were made that he was getting fired. Nobody likes to be fired. And I think he just let his frustrations went on what's next then for Todd McLellan right now. Hey, pause step down off the Colona enjoy yourself. Yeah. Too. Lax. Probably played for him. Yup. Los Angeles has an intern. He look at Saint Louis. We'll get the mic yo here and a couple of seconds Armstrong. I believe interviewed him before he ended up taking the Edmonton job. There could be a fit there. If at the end of the season, they make a decision, and it isn't just Craig ruby or someone else it puts next for Todd McCullough. I can't believe that I've just been through the ringer. And I'm done. Oh, I think you'll be in the mix and some places I don't doubt that this didn't work. But you know, he's been a good coach for a long time. When he's smart, I have a lot in this blog this week about the future of coaching and one of the more interesting conversations, I've had it's not just one conversation. But it's I guess it's a thread through several different conversations. Jeff is that people are sitting here and starting to think. The next generation this millennial group, the most important thing is can you coach them and we've seen three NC double A coaches in the last couple of years. Get jobs. We know h l guys Koji young players guys are telling me those guys whether the junior level or the college level, the H L level, or if you're in the NHL with young teams, they're going to get talked to and I have a feeling that some of these searches will be larger than ones we've seen in the past. I'm not saying any of these guys are going to get jobs, but they're going to be talked to for ideas and see if they can idea their way into a position that they may not have gotten already rocky Thompson, Chicago rocky Thompson is on that list. Sheldon keefe. Toronto Sheldon Keefe. I'll tell you. I don't have the hunter moose jaw Canadian world junior. Coach this year like those got Andre tourneys from Ottawa. As mentioned to me, PASCAL, Vincent from H. L Manitoba dean Evanson who was in Milwaukee for a while. Now on the bench in Minnesota from any gel teams they mentioned Hiller and Smith from Toronto Kirk Miller from Montreal especially because Montreal with a kind of youngest team their offense is starting to go this year. They look like a chance, and you know on a good team. Everything rises Nate Leeman from NCWA. Providence was another name. I got told you're going to see a lot of these guys get interviewed simply because teams want to hear what they have to say. Conclude on this one get your thought on it. Whether you agree or disagree Tuesday on hockey, central at noon. Nikki Prius said I am paraphrasing. It's can Hitchcock's job now to save Peter Sharara job agree or disagree. I think there's a lot to that. Last bullet for Peter, Shirley, probably now, we'll begin the podcast. This is thirty one thoughts the podcast brought to you by the all new two thousand eighteen GMC Sierra de now. Elliot before we talk about another coaching dismissal around the NHL this one in Saint Louis what's up with the hockey night jacket? If you're watching us on YouTube is up how hockey night jacket behind us. I am so excited to where this very cool. And the only thing I would ask is one day. They bring back the orange ones to oh, I forgot about those those were the CFL, Jack, it's mainly. I I don't know if they wore those on hockey night, but they wore them on the CF L and they wore them on CBS sports weekend. Which was there? You know, there are world weather sports of Canada. But the one I remember is I believe it was Scotto. I'd have to double check this with them. But I believe it was him when he was working sidelines on the CFL on CBC, he interviewed Gizmo Williams, the great Gizmo Williams, and for those of you who are in the states who might not know, we was Henry, Gizmo Williams was an outstanding kick and punt returner for the Edmonton eskimos, one of the best we've ever seen one of my favorite players in any. Ever. And he returned a kick for a touchdown and Scott interviewed him on the sidelines. And he goes in the middle of the interview, if I get another one, I want your jacket and Scott Oakes said if you get another one, you get the jacket, and he did it. He ran back another one during the game right over to och Jag. And he goes. Yeah. Yeah. You are awesome. But I have to tell you. We're going to be wearing these on Saturday night. Very cool. It's a real honor. They asked us to autograph one each I guess for the office or it's being auctioned off. I'm not sure, and I just wrote on it. It's a real honor to wear this. And I'm really excited about the opportunity. Dave Hodge Brian McFarland. Howie meeker the legends. We are auctioning them off that's right for hockey fights cancer, all the links will be available will make them aware to you. But. I know I'm going off track. And we don't have a ton of time. But I do want to talk about this with you. And I think it fits because we have the jacket here. So there's a story. I tell about my beginning on Hawkin candidates. Why was hired in October of two thousand three and our first game was Thursday night game. It was Montreal and Ottawa and Martin have latte was unsigned by the Sanders at the time. So they said to me Elliott, your first appearance is going to be at seven. Oh, two two minutes into the show. And you're going to interview John Muckler about this contract dispute. And I remember standing out side the Sanders dressing room in the hallway with Muckler and the music came on. And I almost froze. And that was the previous music when we still had it. And I was honestly, Jeff if they had come to me at that moment. I don't know if I would have been able to do it. Because all of a sudden I was sitting there, and I was thinking what am I doing here? I had same. And so I'd say I turned to mock ler, and I said to him. Them. This must be the first time the guy interviewing you is more nervous than you are and Muckler who by that point already seen everything looked at me. And goes, I doubt it and that the ice for me. I remember my whole first year talking that and it still happens. Now, it's Haagen Canada. It's been on the air more than sixty years. You don't wanna be the guy that ruins the show. I always say to Arash Medani. There's things I say elsewhere that I would never say on the show because there's always a bit of a governor in terms of how I treat it because of all the history Samer difference gold standard for broadcasters sports broadcasters in this country. It's interesting the way that in the United States agree, disagree, Saturday night, generally television, wasteland Americans generally don't congregate around the television on Saturday. Don't try in Canada the opposite everybody gathers around the television. Now the town. Was that has been the zenith? That's the top of Mount Everest in our profession. You get on hockey night in Canada, give Hakkinen Canada on your business card on your resume and a lot of ways. Like, that's it. That's where many of us include myself in that as well. That's where we always buyer like that is the spot, and I can recall my first game was December twenty nine which as since bets. Here's my I walk up. My first hits was on the pre-game show. I was in Ottawa was Washington against the Ottawa. Senators. You're in Toronto K K member who Toronto was playing Ron opens it up, and there's double boxes there's you in Toronto. And there's me and Ottawa and he says oh Friedman is anybody in Charlotte me, please for facing off against the law. Meantime, Canada radio Sirius channel one twenty two where you'll find just merit weekday afternoons from four to eight. But tonight he's ranked side with Alex Ovechkin. And there was that to me Elliott. It seemed like an attorney there's probably about half a second meeting that what am I doing here and everything all those Saturday nights? Mum and dad all of it on the couch watching hockey night in Canada, all of it right in that second. And one of my thoughts is I can't believe this is actually happening. What am I doing here? I don't really belong here. And it was really quickly. Alexander. Ovechkin Alex is the last game of two thousand seven teams had fifty to play in the first place team inspiring orange emanating, and I've never gone back to watch it. No idea. What I said no idea what the in it. But I did have that that half second of. I don't belong here. I'm punching above my weight's. Yeah. I remember that. And I still have moments where I'm thinking careful here. You know, you're fooling around with something that's much bigger than you. All right. Let's move on. Let's move on. We talked about the situation. Edmonston? What about the situation in Saint Louis? Everybody kind of saw this coming. It was really tough sing Louis came through here few weeks ago. And you could see it every it was wearing on everyone there. What I thought was really interesting about it is well, we've got three jobs now that are interims. Yeah. The Blackhawks have committed to Jeremy Colloton, I actually double check this. Withstand Bowman yesterday. I sent him attacks said is he your coach? And he says, yes. And we believe in him. So he's got his much guarantee as a coach can get in this business. The thing that's interesting about Saint Louis you've got Baru bay. And Doug Armstrong said we've got our full support behind him. But we're going to go on a search and they sound like they're gonna have a big search. He mentioned Europe, he mentioned exhaustive investigative things. So there's no guarantee the one thing that was pointed out to me was when Baru bay was the coach in the American Hockey League three of their key prospects, Barbara Chev Blais who was a late round pick and done. Vince, Don, who they were really counting on big things this year played very well for him. And I think that played into the whole thing. But the other thing I just have to say is that for the second time at least and the media did a good job there in Saint Louis of reminding Doug Armstrong of it. He is said this might be the last chance for. This core. And that patients now is is is at its thinnest point. When you fired issued Brian like that these players will be held accountable. I'm not firing another coach yet here. We are today. Have those players. That's why he'd have news press conferences. Good memories. Everything you said is correct. I don't remember saying that. But if I did I did. And as I said, the the the core groups. Equity built up as gone that. That's what I have to say. And I guess I could say it again that the next permanent head coach. If we're having this conversation will be core players gone. But I guess if I said that once I wouldn't believe it either. But I truly believe at this time is that we've. We transferred into to a different group that group isn't three people that groups eight or nine people in my opinion, and they have to they have. They have to get us out of this. And I know that the name that people are wondering about is Tarasenko. And the reason is it's been hinted that the blues always haven't been happy with him since he signed his extension now. No one's ever said that on the record to me, I've never heard his name in a specific trade rumor, but it's kind of been out there that they expect more. And I do wonder if we could get to the point where he does become available. Well, we just talked about can Hitchcock a couple of seconds ago. We saw significant conflict between those two, and we just said well that can Hitchcock rubbing up against the player the wrong way. We've we've seen it before to your point about, you know, this might be for that core. They've they've run out of chances. I think the line by Doug Armstrong this week was this core is out of equity. You do get the sense that they are at their wit's end, which is interesting because I looked at Saint Louis this year. And I said, I don't know that I expect a whole lot out of the gate because they've had a lot of turnover in a lot of key positions. And the weird thing about the the yo situation is as much as normally you would look at it and pointed goaltending lately, Jake, Allen's been good, and the reason they're getting blanked is they just can't score lately. Where O'Reilly where have all the goals coming? It's not happening. Yes. So I I do wonder about that point how how much equity is left if any and then what the next moves are. But I mean, he's not afraid just strong is not afraid the first time. I've heard Tarasenko though there couple years ago fifteen dollars a couple years ago. There was a time I got radioed. And I said I think in Calgary that it was in the playoffs and one of the things the blues were talking about was they just didn't feel. I like to make fun of anyone else's conditioning. Because my own is so bad is I sit severe eating cookies that they were upset about conditioning. They felt that you could be better. And it went everywhere. And I was like oh my God. And you know, someone in the media from Saint Louis called me. And I was like all this going to be a story, and they're like twenty dollars. They're saying we've heard those same things. So it's kind of been around there. But it's a big difference between his you know, being frustrated with somebody and actually looking at this spectacular talent. And saying we're going to move them. Big difference. That's move on. We already did talk about Edmonson, but I want to rewind to last Saturday night killed school. Yeah. Vincent Oilers Calgary. Flames every time. The battle of old Berta comes up. It's marketed. The same way there's pictures and videos. Of fights. And there's jerseys getting tossed in the crowd, and there's big Grant Fuhr windmill saves and David cement, go and Tim hunter. And Jim poplin ski kind of has it been that for a long long time that changed on Saturday. It was great with Bennett and nurse right out of the gate. Three games. We're both. Boards. That could Chuck skin test early. This David what a huge hit by Sam darnold. Chuck just took a pretty hard hit from Leon dry Seidel. The is penalty on the play. But this one is started off nasty. Both of these teams this morning cited pumped up with his game. Swigging tell you. Welcome to the top of this shift went over to Bennett had words, and he just continue shoving attack in the corner. They finally face each other. Welcome to the battle of these guys have seen each other all year long in the regular season. Nurse took a huge Bennett in that first shift, and he says, you don't want enough of that. I'm going to come in and big things happen to they go out. And how about Darnell nurse yelling at the linesman to let us fight. That's a whole other topic. And where that's going, but first of all did not seem to you that there are a lot of other fans and building maybe it was just the camera angles we shot, and we all know that TV can completely distort reality participating. But I looked into this a lot of fans in this building. But anyway, there was hate in that game. And if you're part of the John Tortorella there's not enough Adrian, which I think we are both on that was something different. And when you went into Calgary win or lose. There was a time where you were going to get roughed up either way it was a tough building in a tough team. And is the league's change the teams change, that's very different. But Bennett and construc- they re ignited it, and Nick and Kelly. They were. Aren't happy that could Chuck turtled in the one point. He's the guy chasing. Yes. I would wanna find catching either. And plus he'd already been out of the game. Once now checks big he is, but casting is out of his league. The one thing that was interesting to me is I remembered it one of the players told me that they think that someone on Edmund and said something that could jock about you do that. And someone's going to get you and that reminded me of Mike Richards, Mike Richards, when he played for Bellevue told the story of Sergei brilliant and Patrick eliash telling that to him if you continue to do that someone's going to get you and Matthew Chuck he's going to get paid. He is a great player. I just think the orders were left with a really sour taste not only because they lost. Even the media got into it. I saw that afterwards. I was interesting sidebar. Where are you at with? Where Matthew Chuck's decimal point is going to be Calgary is gonna wanna keep them under Guterro, keep them under the Dros dano ceiling? It's tough now because the cap has gone up, right? And look what everybody's signing for. And and here's the thing. So we had Michael you on and he talked about how his guys like Renton in line are happy to wait to the end of the year to take their time. But some of the other guys that could Chuck is still there. There's all whole ads and sign yet. The GM's were telling me that they believe that they're all waiting for knee Lander, what is kneeland or go. If he actually gets eight or even seven something, why would you signed before that to see and make sure so he's going to be the measuring stick if he signs in the next ten days. Yes. Do you have a feeling as Zibari of feeling on that one way or another not right now, it's not going anywhere? But we're about to get into okay? Yeah. Are you all in or you folding, and we're gonna find out from everybody involved in the next week back to the Calgary Flames? But but off Matthew chalk, and who by the way, and we've talked about this before on the show. He's the heartbeat of that team. I think it has a chance to get up to where I wanna get to want to get to Sam Bennett because whenever we do a Calgary Flames game on Wednesday nights. And we're doing one tonight. Yes, we are Winnipeg Jets and the Calgary Flames. We will have a conversation either on the air or in the green room about Sam Bennett. And what is he, and what's he going to become and wears the spot for what type of player is this guy going to be is the third line guy. That has first line aspirated is the first line guy. That's played way down the lineup. Who is Sam Bennett? He is a guy who was drafted fourth overall. And you take a look at that draft. It was at Blad one. It was Reinhard to it was dry sidled three. And it was Bennett four, and when you're drafted that high you tend to look at maybe points and other people getting say, all I'm not they're not that bugs, you sometimes you have to sort of rediscover what your goals are. Or what you are. And I see Sam Bennett as a guy who can be a fifteen year player in the National Hockey League as a second or third line center. Maybe even I in the right situation who grinds you and noise you and scores twenty goals and gets fifty points year. He can have a hell of a career the guy who played on Saturday night is a guy you can be a difference maker in the National Hockey League. Sometimes you just need to reset your goals beginning of the season. This year, evanger Cain accuser. He was mad at he was mad at somebody in San Jose Calgary exhibition. Game and Bennett stood in against them. And that's not a small thing to do. And I see in Sam Bennett a guy who has you tell him. This is going to be your role. He's going to play in the National Hockey League at that role for fifteen years and make a lot of money and being important player. In a good team calling. Frazier is going to be dropping by the podcast a couple of moments before we get to the three time Stanley Cup champion and former gold medalists the world juniors. The two thousand five candidate squad in Grand Forks. Let's conclude the Seguin by talking about one of the nicer prizes this season. It's been a long time coming and you hope it sustains because a lot of fun. And it's a good looking young team. What happened the Buffalo Sabres why they so good first of all I like to see this because both of us probably saw our share of games in the Aud. Oh, tons and the odd was a great place to watch hockey and rate up and down your overlooking. The great place I want to tell you that one of the first time I ever went to the odds. We rented a car, and we went and we part there. We I went as a university student in my first year. We're like we're going down the odds for a game nights. We drove down from London down there. So we there there was a great parking spot in the parking lot. And I was young, and I was stupid, and it was underneath the bridge. So I parked there. It was so close and nobody else parked there. And I was like what's wrong with these people aren't they parking here. And people were just sort of looking at me. And I was like, okay something's weird here. But I don't know what this is. I think it was eighteen nineteen something like that. And we get back. We join the game. If a great time give back to the car out of the game. And it's covered in bird poop, I guess the bridge was a nesting area. Right. Let's my favorite story about going to the art. But Buffalo's a great market. Yeah. The fans they love hockey the been in limbo. For too long. They deserve this. So I spoke to Jason palm Ville yesterday. And he talked about a lot of the things about the change of attitude. Eichel's better. The goaltending is definitely better Hutton. And all Mark those guys have given them. Good goaltending. But it was funny. He was just about to hang up the phone because he was watching his kids practice. I didn't wanna keep them for too long. So as a thing only goes, oh, wait hold on one second. And I go, okay. What side it goes? I forgot to mention this has to be mentioned golden McCabe. Yeah. Nobody remembers those guys. But think of what we were like without them in the lineup. Just having them. There are so much better. Did you see speaking of McCabe the past Rasmus stellian made to McCabe on the weekend? Like Rasma stallion all of the sudden on the air and they play eastern. So we were on the air. It was it was a thing of beauty. And I know we are all, you know, Kuku for cocoa puffs for at least Pederson and the call run. He's been fantastic twelve goals. So far. Absolute howitzer, rasmin style. Lean now starting to look really comfy with this league palm Ville said that yesterday which would have been Tuesday they were showing some highlights of his to the team. And there was the one he ripped off the crossbar and the moose. He made to get there. It's Berg who said they were all laughing at how ridiculous they were. Yeah. He's coming going to be tough to beat Pederson this year. It is going to be tough. But what race this could be on that will step away? We'll take a pause. We'll come back with Colin. Frazier. Three time Stanley Cup champion next. Thirty one the podcast. GMC? 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And that's a good intro because I like to said really really good timing and is in the right place at the right time. All those those on. You make your own timing you make your own breaks. And you're part of some really impressive squads and some really historic years. I mean to ten was a was a huge one is, you know, for the Chicago Blackhawks you're right there to five was the huge one that was lockout year in the NHL. A lot of players who probably should have been playing in the NHL ended up in that world junior squad. That was probably the most dominant we've ever seen. We're gonna get to all that. And we're going to get to January twenty fifth after that world juniors as well. And you know, what I'm talking about between Calgary. But first heaven be exa on this podcast a couple of weeks ago had this to say about you that one guy that used to play their razor. Remember that all call razor? Oh about guy. Hey that guy. I never really saw the ice, Colin. Frazier respond to Kevin be exa cable and the sheriff cable. And so I I listen to you guys is podcast every week and I hadn't listened to that yet. And I had a few people. Kevin exit. He called yellowed on the on the thirty one thought, so I had to go give a listen and immediately texted Elliott after and some along the lines of make sure you tell Treven that the feeling is mutual because me and him had some pretty epic battles on the ice. Not so much physically as I never fought him. But verbally on words that we probably can't repeat on the podcast. But I did add in the exit Elliott that I put but ask really Mitchell, and you'll vouch for both of us that were good guys. And we'd enjoy each other over here. We will make sure that Kevin gets the message because you must have had a lot of guys to that you like he said that you played against just despised. And then when you said down with them for a beer, you're like, this guy's not that bad guy. Well, we always talk players. We talk about the guys that you hate the most are always the best guys. A character guys the guys that battle. They're always the good guys off the ice not to say the other guys are. But that's that's I guess guys play on the edge a little bit always say, and I've never met Kevin outside of playing against him by playing for the Kanawha. And I was in Chicago. And then I was in LA and we played him in the playoffs every single year and the Canucks were always the top team. And they had a bunch of players that let's say other players in the white all that much with being one of them and myself. A lot of battles. I mean, I was fortunate on the on the good side of those battles in the playoffs. You know, you've been part of his top some pretty historic teams. We will circle back to the world junior championship in two thousand and five here in a second. But what was two thousand and ten like not on the ice necessarily. But perhaps better phrased on the bench. I can recall asking Glenn Healy this question Glenn work. But between the benches as you. Well know, I said, Glenn what's the worst? You've ever heard like what series? What game like what is the worst you ever heard? And he said without a doubt two thousand ten Chicago Blackhawks Philadelphia Flyers it went and a lot of it was Chicago. And it was relentless once that tap turned on. There was no turning it off Kane ver-, Steve it was apparently nasty Kolon. How nasty was it? The playoffs is a new season. So it's always nasty Dan eager who is awesome guy. But he would always be looking for on anybody. If the playoffs came into into play, Texan buddies, Texas people that play the soil. So, hey, what do you got? Hey, what do you got? And if you're in anything, even if it was half through bring it up like it was factual information. So definitely heated battles. I mean. But I you grow up at sounds cliche. You want to win the Stanley Cup wanna costs. You know, this is this is what you wanna do. And if if it gets somebody off their game that it gets somebody off the game. And if you're taking a personal while you shouldn't be taking it personal because we're all trying to do the same thing. And that's when I can remember talking to one player once Kolon who said he had a very specific coach said before every series every player on his team was assigned a player on the other team. And it was his job to as you mentioned make the phone calls. Do the background get as much dirt. On that player as possible bring it all together for the team share it all up and down the bench. So guys could just double barrel players when they skated by the bench, or they're lined up faceoffs every part of a team like that where the coach would assign you another player to get on absolutely now in Chicago's q. We'd have to do research on players with that set. It wasn't so much to hurt as much as it was about the type of player was so for example, I had at the time Rick Rifkin. So I haven't you do my research on Rick what kind of player is he wasn't so much about the off. I stuff that we could trip guys. It was about the type of player was with that set out on British. Always put together these ethic presentations with like a school project board and video and really anything. Good his hands on and it was unbelievable. Again. Whether it's true or not made us all laugh, it's downs. Very Sean every right because ever used to say that he always did his research on people, and he he would do that. But I have to tell you that I had several players over the years say that nobody was less afraid to say anything, then ver- stieg. And if you've ever called Christopher stieg his phone message said nothing anybody leaves messages anymore. But his phone message said if it's important to you leave a message if it's important to me all return it I always love that voicemail. I thought it was great. But was versteegthe the most fearless guy when it came to saying anything. He's right up there. Skill guy. But he's a rat at the same time and at the pleasure of playing against him us unless you're back in the day. And then Chicago traded for him in the minors and me and him. I was I mean competitive guy, meaning very very good friends. It'd be trying to fight each other on the bench getting after each other because we're such competitive guys. And I'd always have he's the guy, you know, breaking stick and taking the extra few minute minor. And I lose my marbles on down skier. We kind of need you on the ice. But you can't be sitting in the box. But he would oh man and he can fight to throw bombs on guys. I small guy just a competitive guy that it really is an awesome guy in a good friend and actually one time. He's. Between the legs like fancy guy skill and Joel Quenneville comes running down the bench per state. If you ever do that again to rape between the right between the eyes. Quibble eager you play on the penalty. Kill you play five on five free. Sure. Like from the lack speaking of throwing bombs only get there now. So to five Team Canada wins gold the world juniors. And then in what seemed like what maybe a week later read years playing Calgary western high. We've all seen this team celebrating and hugging, and it's a great moment. The country come together over this role junior squad. There's no NHL in all the is on the WJ see in Grand Forks and his fantastic. And then read your faces off against Calgary. I think it's like four seconds into the game for nothin', lad, Throwdown, and you and Ryan gets laughed Throwdown, and it is bombs from all four competitors. What happened? What is the back story on that? I mean, it's funny. It goes to show times of change because there's not really a back story. Like, I mean, we all got along. I mean, I don't know Dion in bladder got as long as well as me and gets, but he'd found that mean him, we're we're friends. There's there's no issues at all. But this read your Calgary rivalry we play fifteen times a year. And so I try to fight gatty every game. He's the best player. I'm trying to get him off the ice. And he would never fight me. Good. So John and lie fight. I didn't even know they're doing they just fought right off the face off. And really really good fight too. Big guys control them when they want to and the next face off. I guess you. Let's go and he's like, no, man. I'm like gets less. There's every time. Okay. So we through I think bullfights done for seconds into the game. Everyone thinks going what in reality. We don't. I mean, it's just I don't know. Like you go back. I scout now for the block. So at talk to these old scouts army member. Watching you on I always follow it up with that don't make them like that anymore. Do they know? Different air. I mean gets he's a one hundred point guy hall of Famer he's absolutely one of my favorite players. I've ever played the game and he throw down, and we fought and the rest of the stakes a great story today. You part of calling two teams where finally the franchise and their fans could exhale such build up. And then finally climbed the mountain two thousand ten Chicago Blackhawks two thousand twelve Los Angeles Kings, long droughts kings, never won when Chicago back to nineteen sixty one. We were those times like when finally those two franchises planned the top of the mountain with Chicago. I mean, the expectation for huge season in two thousand nine we exceeded expectations and lost in the conference finals to Detroit, but we're close we're knocking on the door. So coming into ten we were one of the teams that were supposed to be in the hunt. And it's weird because we had all these young. Young players for Steve myself brower offline you know, loudly. Dave Boland Dawson buffalo we all played in the minors. Together. We all grew up together. And we all remain friends today because of just kind of coming through the system together. And I don't know. It's like the city was crazy. And we never really felt the pressure in the sense that we weren't in the room. Like, oh, better win this playing hockey. And when you're in the moment, we're kinda riding this wave and obviously had a good team. And it's just trying to I don't know it was like surreal kind of thing. And I'll tell you after the season when we won that Chicago. We could have done anything we wanted. And that's it us free reign on the on the whole thing. It was. Our control crazy people always ask you. It's the only city that might top Toronto. I don't know if any city top, but we did Chicago in two thousand ten so and Washington pretty good Washington was pretty good last year, though, they threw a hell of a part. They did still social media said you didn't see all the stuff we doing. With the king's like twenty twelve weeks is such a different story because we're supposed to have these speculations, and I just been traded from Edmonton. And we're struggling the entire season struggling struggling Jima party meetings with just ripping us. And and then we get Jeff Carter the deadline, and it was literally like the light turned on. And the rest is history. Started this trend up, you know, towards the playoffs. So when we hit the playoffs we hit where the AT we were hot like we were from the trade deadline on we were hot. And we were winning. We were feeling good. So we we get paying couvert just riding high on our play. Not maybe not that we finished fourth in the standings. But we were playing so well, we go up on to rip, and it just seems like everything just fell into place with no injuries. We're healthy nothing. Phased us, and he was such a different team in the hawks. You were this big strong. You know built for. Ploughs type team, and then we had Jonathan quick and the net. In my opinion, the best goalie if you want game seven on the line, you want Jon quick and your net because you know, he's bringing his best game that he could ever bring. So he was a huge. I mean, everyone huge part. But he was a huge part. Why we guess rolled through the the whole ploughs at your alright saw two last ones for me number one. You know, Jeremy Colloton, he's a guy were all learning about you played against them. I guess with him when you were minor hockey players on some select teams, you probably know him as well as anybody does who is around the NHL. What would you tell us about the youngest coach in the National Hockey League right now? Jasey was. Yeah, we played spring hockey other used to pick them up for him because he's really could I played on a team with French. And Troy Brouwer like Santa rally with a bunch of guys played the NHL. Andrew loud was on team. We pick up JC, return amounts. This way back when we were know twelve or thirteen years old reserve guy quite guy, but very hard worker, and he's Cray was cut short by injuries and concussions Pacific -ly. But a guy that probably should have been could have played a long gel. Very two minutes. But very detailed guy. You know? He's been coaching in Sweden number year. So he has experienced people might not know that they think he's in the American League for year. But he wasn't for number years. Young guy that can relate to young players, you know, as it changes here with that said, I I feel bad for q in the sense that he was my favorite coach I had in the NHL. So you know, obviously big shoes to fill. But I think if anyone can do it jaycees the guy in the sense that hard-working smart guy, young guy that would have had a longer NHL career. How in helping last one for you calling your beating the pavement? Now, you are management. You are part of the Chicago Blackhawks organization is this your future where where's your road going to take you? Well, it's up to say that people always ask me. I so tired. I was for two and a half years. I kinda plugged around. And did nothing run some hockey camps. Hang out with the kids that kind of thing. And taught it was done with hockey. I just thought you know, the grind plates years old. I was thirty. And I was done. I didn't wanna be hockey. And you keep coming back to what you like. And what do you know? And that's hockey. So I started put my name in the hat. I called the hawks called the kings. And just so contacts that I had that say oh wasn't necessarily look for scouting job. What about hey? If you got anything I'd love to part of it. Good time. You know, whatever the spot opened up with the box, and I jumped at the opportunity to my wife. There's Evan organization foot in the door. It's the hawks as they do everything right on and off the ice model. Franchise that part of it. I can avowed for that. So where it's going. I I I don't have that answer. But I can tell you Joyner watching the game through a different lens watching some young players beating the pavement, and and the old even the junior ranks and rinks and and come kinda everywhere, but it's good. And will I guess see where it takes me? I can find a diamond in the ru-. Maybe take me up the ladder pretty calm last one from me off air, we talked about how we have two kids at our same age thousand ten both hockey I'm going to two thousand and twelve as well plays hockey and plays on on the team with an he's one of the coaches Raffi Torres his son ties as little player, and I'm always curious about what X NHL others say to their kids about playing haunting some always watching trying to see what you know, how RAFI coaches both my kid and his son is as well you, and I both have two thousand ten as well, what kind of advice, or what do you talk to a how do you talk to Kim. Bo playing hockey right now for me personally. I try to just encourage encourage encourage courage, and I say that because there's gonna come the day when the coach Darryl Sutter are brunch. Sutter is gonna be the details guy. Stick three feet to the left. Here. You have to be here have to be there. And you're going to become this like robots? Was young kid over coach them. This is my theory anyway, won't make kid to be have confidence through the roof. And ultimately, obviously to have fun. I mean that was about saying, but I always say, call me crazy. But my first question to to my son called her is in. Did you have fun? The first question is did you work hard? Because that to me is never mind played in the NHL. But no matter what you do you have to work hard at it. Trying to build young good good young men versus good young hockey players everything else kind of takes care of itself. So I definitely health coach him. He loves the game, which is truly all I care about these watching you guys on TV reads sake news plays hockey all about it all the time. And that's what's most important to me. So I don't try to drive home. You know, play defense. He wa- want you pick up that check their. Hey, you should shoot the puck more. I think that stuff for maybe a little bit old. You're left hand shot as he left hand shot right in and shot. He's a right hand Shaw. Twenty fifteen that's right hand shot as well. And I have a rack of like four hundred sticks. I will not using any of them, and I'll be fine right sticks. Love the name called or though. Like that. Call. Great name. Yeah. I'd like to say it was after hockey trophies. But it's in fact, it's not my wife just liked the name that we have that pick dealt long before callers every thought of Mon so twenty twenty nine draft guys. Yeah. Late birthday Tolbert first date. So I fought year. So he can work on a skill the next year and endless as the right hand shots yet. Ten percent of the contract a good for you. Well, done dad right handed team it, I know definitely. Right handed team it, I know definitely. He's calling. It's been a pleasure. Thank you calling. Good stuff. Looking stream over five hundred NHL games. Blackout free sports net. Now is the product for you available to anyone over the internet sports net. Now gives you twenty four seven access to sports nets channels, including content not available on television. You can stream on the go or at home on your big screen from the most popular devices, including smartphones and tablets, apple TV, XBox, PlayStation and chrome cast sign up for as long as you want and cancel whenever you'd like. You can also stream NBA Premier League and all your favorite sports net original programming and more. Visit 'Send now dot CA for more details. That was calling Frazier. And that was Elliott fun conversation added time, my only disappointment was didn't come on air and start talking about how awful Kevin be exit wasn't then laugh in the middle and changes mine and start saying great things like Maury Povich show. Turn to that type of other real father. You you made an interesting point. You forget how much that guy. One tons Frazier where he went winning followed, right? And only he's sort of downplays it. Oh, a complementary piece. I was listening wouldn't you win that much like just to make you think about making on that two thousand and five team. Okay. Me with the greatest junior hockey team every assembled because there's all those guys that should be playing in the NHL. It's locked those guys are all coming back. He's on that team two thousand ten Blackhawks thousand twelve Los Angeles Kings. He did a whole lot of not just small winning. But big stage winning that would be fun. If I choice like here's the question. If you could be superstar and never win. And you could be a complimentary player and win a lot. What would you take? Oh, wow. I take them entry player. I'd take the win lamentably player. And the other thing that's to that interview. I will Adam Bursch. That's gotta be a podcast we do. And we have to get like like twenty five bucks. We have to get a copy of one of those reports power points. That's number one number two. What was cog owes two thousand ten Stanley Cup party? Like if he's saying even with the social media was crazier than Washington's what was that like been waiting to talk to a hockey player about that about doing research on another team? Not just okay what other tendencies whether they're all about. But just going and finding material to come at them with guess it happens more than we even realized a new about that bit with Quenneville where he would tell players you have to research each guy as a player. Yeah. But didn't realize that Ben eager? Was a researcher. Yeah. Like Avery was every took big pride in that shirt. It let's finish up your Elliott with some hashtag ask thirty one. I have actually a hashtag ask thirty one. Okay. Unbeknownst to me, and it's of our producer. I'm Dallas the last week on the podcast talking about Josh Anderson. Yes, scoring is coming off that Jamie Benn scrap which was old school and beautiful and it was violent arts. And we're talking about what's it like when you square up and there's distance between the fighters one thing for something. You know, the spontaneous volcanic eruption to happen. And you just right there, and it happens. It's another to have distance between you and you're thinking about what is about to happen and there's distance. And there's that gem always fascinated with the moment before something happens. Which is why I still think the best hockey photograph of ever seen is not to Ross shot of Bill Barocco. We've all seen the Bill Barocco picture Jerry Neal's going back and rocket as mouth open and the. Puck is about to go in. And if you look at the crowd it hasn't gone in yet because crowds still all sitting down. It's that slice of life. That split second right before something is happening. Not to Rosty captures that perfectly. Yes. In that Bill co picture. So I'm always fascinated by distance closing. And what's it like that breath before the kiss? What's that like when going up the roller coaster? That's the wine. You know, what I'm talking about this? I'm all our man at the least confiscate the other day asked, Josh Anderson. I think just to relax and try to get a good grip is obviously really important you kinda wanna stare them down. And and try to get that good grip where you want to really hold him. But I think really it's just relax and. You don't really see me actually relaxing fight after I get hit once. I don't know. It's something that I've been used to. Growing up in junior. I thought a little bit. And then like you said squaring off against guys. You're not really thinking too much on really thinking throw him his fascist can and see if you can get them with a couple. I think so I'm listening to that answer. And he says you gotta get a couple of shots in. And I'm thinking wrong answer. That's only gonna make even angrier. Can't I understand what he's trying to say. But part of me is that still not a great strategy. But give it up, Josh Anderson. Give it up to Josh enersen a for doing it and be for standing in answering the question. Yep. Speed of answering the question tomor junior. How do you think the players on the Rangers would take given their start? If management starts making trades keep in line with the goal of the rebuilt would they be angry or understand it in the big picture? This is some found money here for the Rangers. There's no question that internally that's being asked. What if we stay with what we do see players know, if you're real or you're Mirage, and especially when you've got young players you don't want necessarily teach them about giving up. If you're in the race you deserve to be in the race. You stay in the race. They still have time. There were some trade. Rumors about Kevin Hayes earlier this year. I think actually kipper started them all mentioning that. Mentioning that Winnipeg was interested, which makes a lot of sense. But a couple of teams were telling that Jeff Gordon's a guy who likes to wait closer the deadline, and he'll take his time. So you have time it's the old lamb rela line. If you have time use it. It's a great question. And if they're still in it close from the deadline, it's going to become a very big internal question. But they still have time to see are they really there from Rian Shaffer. What is the next big equipment breakthrough that has game changing potential like would to compass it sticks? Now positives for second. Because when this came in this morning that this would be good one that you on with Elliot. So I sent three texts though, one to someone who works for a an equipment manufacturer somebody worked in that industry. I sent one to a hockey retailer, and I sent one to a hockey general manager at the junior level whose real close I was. Working with kids. The retailer said helmets to of concussions. We simply can't fix concussions. I get that. Now, I'll read it some of the answers here to someone who works for a an equipment company. All one piece of quit. No, more shoulder pads, elbow, pads pants, shinned pads. It will all be connected, like a onesie just slide it on you get dressed, and you're ready to go. That one is an interesting while Sidney Crosby has that ones that he wears it has extra shoulder protection. So I can see like a onesie that has protection that covers up areas where elbow pads stop between your the cuff of your mitt. And you're like I can see that. I just don't know the full of full body spanks is coming into. But here's the other one and honesty. This is why love this question prompted these texts says from one of my favorite junior hockey, general managers to this is I'd never thought about this until this morning with thank you very much for this ask thirty one gloves K, really gloves. Haven't changed since they went to shorter cuffs now with the different grips players used for shooting. It wouldn't surprise me. If they went to more, customized grip and different feel for your lower hand than your top hand. It's kinda weird that it doesn't matter which way you shoot gloves or identical. There aren't any switch hitters that. I'm aware of at elite level hockey. So there should be some advantage to this. The idea that all gloves are the same for everybody. What are your size fourteen size? Fifteen. That's really you're only decision when you get into camp. What size gloves, do you? But now the players are using different types of grips, you know, top hand grip. Adam hand grip bottom for pushing top for pulling all that the idea that gloves would be personalized as more and more players are getting involved in shooting instruction and getting shootings coaches skills coaches at help with their shot. It wouldn't surprise this general manager, and I'm warming to the idea to now that I knew it through ahead. Maybe the clubs are the next piece of technology. The gets because you're left is the same as your as you get it right now. But why that's a great idea? I think that's really interesting one of the thing. I do I am more of that. John Shannon, tweeted out a picture of a golden glove a couple of weeks ago. And can't remember who said this. But African tweeted out, I guess the players association saw that tweet and said we've seen that. And there's no way we're doing that. And then I heard it got presented at the GM meetings last week in Toronto. So there's something going on there. But I like your glove idea. It's not mine is one. Now that I've the newly that makes a ton of sense. And and I told my wife about she said, it's great for the manufacturers that way, there's no hand-me-downs hand-me-down gloves. You've gotta buy new bear for everybody. But also on that whole spanks thing we were talking about I know it's not spanking on calling spanks. There's no doubt in my mind that they are going to change the equipment in terms of how slimming it is. And how little it feels on you one of my favorite football players growing up was Marcus Allen. And they used to joke that he looked like he was wearing a wet suit when he played the game. And a lot of athletes are like that they like not feeling like they're wearing anything. I wonder if that will get there where there was skates. I wonder about skate blades because blades have always been about. Traditionally, and it is starting to change. Now faster glide fast glide fast glide fast, live with so many guys in various, you know, mobility, edge work that they do a wonderful at a place now where skate blah. Blades themselves. Take that next. Evolution airy step as released technology stuff is all darts. That's will conclude on this one quickey podcast. Sweet folks. Thanks for being with us. Knowing Brown is plus minus still a relative stat in relevant. True. That's what he meant relevant stat. In today's NHL. I think it matters to know who's on for what? But many disregard it, and I'm unsure why there's some people who believe in it. I think Lula Morello believes in it. He's mentioned it a couple of times and passing to me to say that it's something he believes in other people do different things on years ago and hockey night in Canada radio Larry Robinson, when he coached in San Jose said that the sharks had a system where if you were on the ice, and you were directly involved in a scoring chance you gotta plus, and if you were on the ice, and you were directly involved in scoring chance against you. Gotta minus right. I like that a lot better. Yeah. I think that thing that people sort of look at with plus minus is if you get a minus, and you're not really responsible does that is a true indicator of your success slow. It just comes down to the fact that people believe there are deeper ways to look at this and determine cause and effect or you would falter not so goal base metrics are low event shots are a high base metric for information to deal with Ken Hitchcock was a big believer in possession. Like who was a reason that we got the puck in the offense zone for a long time. A lot of coaches will tell you they prefer that kind of a message. And I think a lot of people that are at the the high end analytics thinkers will tell you you're plus minus has to do with things like your goaltender safe resist and your teammates shooting percentage. Yes. Case in point when Alex Ovechkin had the worst, plus minus in the NHL, and then suddenly he didn't and that was more about his teammates because he's defensive player all of a sudden on that will wrap. Anything to add Elliot before we wanna say we have a job shadow or in today. Sam is with us and his mother who I believe I went to summer camp with at some point. She brought in these great cookies which have ruined my McCain figure, and I just want to say Sam, thanks very much. Sam won't you come around this way to can at least get on the YouTube version now Sam just wave to the camera. Just just you know, Sam Elliott was at the mall not too long ago. He had a nice polkadot bikini picked out for next summer and your mama's ruining ruined it said, but thanks very much. Susan for the cookies, we are finishing taping this podcast at three o'clock eastern time on Wednesday. He's been here since one thirty and he'll spend a good chunk of the night with us tonight. Yes. Fantast just to see what a joke. Our jobs are. It's really easy. Don't tell anyone. Okay. You know, who's got the easiest one to me. I do things like this. That was a bad pass Elliott agree Burkey? Was that offside walk them back to the program? And we'll be right back. Kind of all I do and every two weeks a paycheck shows up and someone yells stop the. On that will conclude on a thank calling phaser for stopping by. That was a lot of fun. Thanks to you for all the downloads and the eyeballs on YouTube. I will conclude with Hawksley workman. Always thank you to our producer. I'm L Delic Hawksley workman. This is battle Ford's hockey as a handful of shows right before Christmas in Creamer. Huntsville and Toronto we're back next week with more thirty-one thoughts the podcast, thanks for joining us. With. He said. The beating. Could afford. Freeze. Streets. Sniffed? On the edge of his name. Wasted. Dead shakes. It's been. His mom. With the. Stretch to say the blessing.

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ARRL Audio News - September 11, 2020

ARRL Audio News

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ARRL Audio News - September 11, 2020

"This is a R L audio news. Your weekly summary of news highlights from the world of and Aradio. If you retransmit audio news through a repeater, listen for the Morse Code K character. Followed by four seconds of silence that you're you to stop transmitting so that your repeater timer can reset. I'm Steve Ford wbz eight I M Y, and these are stories for Friday September. Eleventh the K. One US and Radio Club Massachusetts is launching a new weekly hour long slow speed contest called the K. One U. S.. N. S. S. T. The inaugural session will be on Monday September fourteenth from zero hundred hours zero one ut see that Sunday September thirteenth in the North American Time Zones K. One US trustee. Pie Pugh K. ONE RV said the decision to embark on a sponsorship of new operating event involved serving some two thousand radio amateurs to gauge their enthusiasm for the event Pugh said the club worked with a group of CW OPS members within the club with the blessing of the CW CDW CW Academy Adviser Group CW OPS is not involved in sponsoring the contest although predicated on the desires of the CW Academy Community Pugh stressed that the weekly activity will be open to all who are looking to improve their CW skills. Participants are advised to be patient, supportive and willing to slow down as necessary. Suggested frequencies are thirty, five, thirty, two to thirty, five, thirty, nine kilohertz on eighty meters seventy thirty, two to seventy, thirty, nine kilohertz on forty meters and fourteen three to to fourteen o three, nine kilohertz on twenty meters, stations, exchange names, and states, provinces, or countries. Scientists at the air, force research. Laboratory in New Mexico have discovered a new way to track and characterize sporadic e, which occurs when large structures of dense plasma form naturally in the upper atmosphere. These plasma structures which can occur at mid-latitudes locations around the world can affect radio wave propagation in both positive and negative ways. Can Open Burger research scientists at the laboratory said quote previous methods to observe these structures were insufficient for identifying and tracking the structures. Regions, it would be advantageous to actively identify where these structures are, where they are going and how dense they are, and we thought we could find a better way to do that unquote, the new method developed by Open Burger and collaborators at the laboratory and at the University of new. Mexico leverages unintentional are F emissions from power lines and uses broadband radio noise with which they can map and track dense sporadic structures. This kind of technology could be of interest to those who rely on HFS. VHF frequencies such as radio amateurs, mariners, broadcasters, and the military. Amateurs have long taken advantage of sporadic e for long range communications in the VHF bands such as six and two meters studying the climatology of sporadic e can provide a probability that it will occur but the actual presence of sporadic can only be determined through trial and error. Having accurate. Now, casting a sporadic e could provide crucial information during disaster situations or hams may play a key role in supporting communication of vital. Information. Nigel Vendor. Howard k seven and V. H. reported on September. Eight that some users of Hamlin, a high-speed digital network in the puget sound region of Washington spotted a large brush fire while viewing one of the networks remote camera feeds they reported it to the Department of Natural Resources which thank them for the I report had gotten on the fire and they sent a team to try to keep it small and Under Control Hamlin is a nonprofit organization. Developing Best Practices for high amateur radio data networks so far Hamlin. Networks have been used for such applications as low latency repeater linking realtime video feeds, APR S I gates providing redundant Internet access to emergency operation centers and more. The Hamlin puget sound network has cells deployed at numerous wide coverage sites interconnected with five gigahertz radios. The Hamlin Technical Team has been installing remotely controllable cameras at the link sites and one of these was used for the wildfire report. Amateur Radio Volunteers provided the Maryland DC section with situational awareness and breaking information on September third as severe weather including at least one tornado hit the region around the nation's capital. A.. R. L. Maryland D C Section Manager Marty Pittenger K B M Xm said section staff and Hams across. Maryland joined a section wide ECO link node and linked repeaters to report situational awareness as the eastern half of the state and Washington DC were hit hard. For more than three hours, nets reported on wind damage power outages flooding, and the impact traffic across six Maryland counties. The storms traveled more than eighty miles across Maryland with one passing north of DC spawning a brief tornado in edge Mir not far from the US Naval Academy another storm crossed over Baltimore earlier that day the Maryland DC section and aries leadership collaborated to plan a course of Action Section emergency coordinator Jim Montgomery wbz three KS. Notified Aries, teams of approaching storms. The citrus belt amateur. Radio Club will sponsor. It's twenty first route sixty six on the air special event. September. Twelfth through the twentieth with twenty one stations each using one by one call sign specifically w six a through w six you operating from cities along the highway route sixty six is famous in American history as the major highway from the east to the West Coast and is. With American car culture as with the vintage route sixty, six television program. To Celebrate Their, Club's fiftieth anniversary members of the Texas Dax Society will operate K.. Five. D Stroke Fifty September fourteenth through October thirteenth on CW S B and F. T. Eight on one hundred and sixty through ten meters also in September V. E. Three and O. Operate special events station x three eight to commemorate the seventy fifth anniversary of the United Nations and finally members of the London Ontario Amateur Radio Club use the call Sign V. E. Three L. O. N. One hundred until the end of September to mark the centennial of the club one of the oldest amateur radio clubs in Canada. Bruce Page K.. Five do reminds listeners about the challenge of earning the A. R. L. Vhf Uhf Century Club award for satellite contacts. To get started you need to work stations in one hundred different maidenhead grid squares this month there are a few newcomers to the VU CC club those earning their first one, hundred or more grids from the September lists are in alphabetical order D to e t K. Zero J. M. K. One p. a. d., K. Five Ta K. I. Four as K.. K. O. Four, ache you F K X Nine X and a one M E P P to. and W eight, Zid ID, and if you think getting started with one hundred grids as a task K. eight Y s e just hit nine thousand, nine, hundred, thirty, five grids to make it a bit more fun chasing grids. There are a number of hands who are travelling around the states and they'll stop and give out some grid squares and if you're lucky, they will be on a grid boundary or a four corner grid listen for announcements of these grid expeditions in Audio News. This is. The A R L propagation forecast for Friday September eleventh, we have an area in the sun southern atmosphere that is trying to be a sunspot trying be the operative word by the time you hear this, it will have graduated into a full sunspot or it will have vanished. There's been a slight bump in the solar index as a result not much to get excited about we have a blast of solar wind due to arrive by early next week the impacts on the H F ban shouldn't be. Great however but it may disrupt some bands above forty meters on. VHF and UHF WEEKEND IS THE A R L September VHF contest and it looks like operators in the Mid West may want to keep an eye out for trouble openings onto meters and up six meters has been fairly quiet in most areas. But even in mid September, it can still pop open when you least expect it, and that concludes a our audience for this week. Our thanks to all contributors to this week's report A. Our audio news is produced by the American Radio Relay League the National Association for Amateur. Radio for more information on amateur radio or the a R. L. visit us on the web at A. R. L. Dot Org. You can also find us on facebook and twitter by searching for a R L. if you have a question or comment about a l. audio news, email us at audio news at eight L. Dot Org. This program is Copyright A. R. L. All rights reserved seventy-three and thanks for listening.

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