19 Episode results for "Jim Davis"

Iowa Man Faces Up to 65 Years in Prison for Forging Postage Stamps

Tessa and Elliot Argue

35:25 min | 5 months ago

Iowa Man Faces Up to 65 Years in Prison for Forging Postage Stamps

"Hello i'm elliot each week. Well usually each week. And in this week i always do that. I don't know why we are going to talk about some weird news stories that we have found from the previous week and share with each other. Would you like to go first esa and will you go first. 'cause you're searching for stories as recording. No i literally my phone being weird. But i got it candidate out. So is that a yes or you want me to go for. What do you want. I'll go first fantastic florida biologist find live turtle in stomach of large mouth bass a large turtle alarm her live. Turtle ninety large mouth bass survived being eaten by a bass. Okay yeah you remember the guy who tried to get eaten by the snake and chicken out. No he didn't chicken out. I thought he did chicken. Oh he tried to get eaten by the snake and it didn't work snakes only heat a human his thanks. I'm good yeah. I got his foot in or something. The snake gave up because he had like a suit. That was like this is survivor. Where i'm going to kill the snake right. I'm worried worried about the snake. Yeah i'm more worried about the snake too. Yeah okay new segment on the show that i'm starting. I've been listening to. I've been listening to the lebatardshow. Dan laborat- he's a he used to be on. Espn and the mornings and it used to listen to him a long time ago in college because he was just on when i was on when i was was not in class. Yeah recently in december they laughed. Espn so now they just been doing. It has a podcast. And i've been listening to it every day or the days that they record and it's a really good and they do this segment that i love and i don't know why we have not done that ourselves because it's great it's universal is it. They have polls every time they they think he goes new poll and he asked people to vote on it. Yeah and so. We're going to do the same thing so poll at elliott argues e. l. iot underscore argues a- poll will be up for a week and a next podcast. We will go through the poll results. Okay question now. That i've explained it. I forgot my question was going to be. Oh who who you more afraid of. Who are you more worried for the snake train. Eat the man or the man who wants to be eaten by the snake. That's the question okay. So we'll see how many people actually vote. We'll get back to you just two or three people so yes you can change the results of the vote. Literally your vote counts counted anywhere else but accounts here there you so there you go yes more worried about the snake or the guy who wants to be eaten by always more worried about snake. There's something mentally unstable about a guy who wants to be my snake. Yes i mean but he has the ability to go get help. The snake eat this thing. Also you couldn't let the snake eat for an extended period time if they're going to try to eat a human. Yeah i mean also what point you're like. Hey i'm just going to kill the state to get out. Yeah like okay anyway. I think i got this story from my boy. Jeff please listen to his podcast. Hitchcock hitchcock chronologically. He just got to the talkies. So now we're talking. He's now watching real films instead of silent movies. Nice the talkies. Does i mean that's what they're called back. Yeah anyway snoop dogg snoop dogg rage quits on twitch accidentally leaves livestream on for seven hours. Shit i have anything crazy happen while live streaming and online game of madden fell. Twenty one for about fifteen minutes before. He found himself repeatedly pummeled by his opponent. After letting out a string of expletives and steadily cursing his players further an inability to tackle the rapper equipped game and a fury slammed his headphones down and stormed off without realizing that he was technically live streaming. Kind of funny. Yeah a house on my favorite pornos start where like the girls like live streaming and okay. I'll see you later. Then she like fake turns it off. She's not really turning it on proceeds to that's like the genre. Yeah it's it's a lane. That i found myself going down a couple of times okay. There's something about it and just got weird away. Okay voyeur g well. I'm not well but she doesn't know that she's being a four year. That's part of your. She's not being voyeur. You're being of. You would be a voyeur if you like. I'm going to watch his girl who thinks she's off lives. She knows she's not she's acting i. Is it still new. Poll still is it still voyeurism. If she knows okay. I know that's does. She know that. I know that it's the voyeurism. If it's if it's literally bruin the auto. That's the question is it voyeurism if she knows what she's doing and it's obviously not it's record laurent. We will i- listeners. Decide talking you out if you if somebody was streaming on twitch and was like rage quits or whatever and then they bring the real of her i. I know that that's not part of the scenario is know it's fake. You didn't hardly you're like oh this guy know it's fake sure. Oh i do. Because they wouldn't really post anyway once. You're your story asshole. North carolina families rabbit ties world record with litter of how many how many babies do you think i must say four. Do you read the story. Swear to god. I didn't twenty four. Were denied i swear. I did not if i did i subconsciously. Remember that i think. I did though. Twenty four babies. Maybe i did read that. Because i came off with. I guess it correctly. Or maybe just good of that guessing game. And you're terrible. yeah. I'm terrible at gassing. The worst to play games with. I know i have zero can competitive and that is are you one of the worst qualities of valley. Thanks babe. i wish you were a little competitive about anything you weren't even you qualified for getting a covid vaccine and you're not competitive at all in getting it. I i'm i'm gonna i'm not bitched at you until i bitch that you to get signed up accurate rose like hey have you. Signed up for the what discussing. Adhd i don't think you're adhd had actual kids that have girls girls okay it. It's different adult people to your right but it's not you. That's just you just depressed you while you're definitely that now here's the thing. It's ohio states doing this okay. Ohio state conducting onlyfans seminar for students on how to get started in sex work instead of lowering tuition or making it affordable to go to college. We'll tell you how to get your threshold to get involved in sex work. Something like only fans. I guess you could do it. Only fans no. I couldn't do it only fan. So your threshold. I care way too much about what people think about me. Yeah but that's the whole point like people are paying to see you because they like it but nobody would pay and then it would be. That's true very true. Well there's only one way to find out we're not doing that. So what are you trying to make me. So many threshold is not only fans. 'cause you would do it What's the most risky thing of pictures of my feet. Okay but nobody wants those fucking gorilla does this woven has she wants sliced open and apple. She cut apple with her big toe. It wasn't even the nail part it was like. I know that was the weird part. Yes yeah strange. The grocer was eating it afterwards. But you did like now. Don't peter do that to yourself. Respect yourself more. I have zero respect for myself. If it wasn't selling pictures of my fee. I once saw this this like day in the life thing of this girl who like would eat things on camera like they would. He like gummy bears. And stuff like that sabar now really but like men would pay her to be like. Hey bite the gummy bears off. I really that like okay. I guess. I i would for the right price. I would pretty dirty things i mean. What are we talking. What what price are we talking. If you're saying what's your price point you're saying like you did on the twenty bucks. Well no no no no. I'm talking hundreds of dollars. Thousands of dollars. Okay you're you're a an expensive hor for well. Yeah yeah yeah. No threshold hawes celebrities. Well i mean my threshold would be high. Because if i'm showing my wean right to see this tiny little man the see little elliott. Maybe like sexting or something. Okay maybe which you do anyway. Pay for you be cool. Yeah sure just yeah. You're afraid of rejection. I mean. I think everyone rejection al. Yeah people are like to do with you. It's about them like no fucking people don't like me 'cause they don't like me like it's obviously as me right. Of course. obviously cat sat on one hundred and twenty five mile per hour train roof delays passionate for two hours before swaggering off. So you wouldn't get down. Get down okay. They didn't get up to get the cat. No are they do that because the train is moving. No the trains stopped and couldn't get cat off. Yeah then that. Sounds like a bob cat now. We can tabby cat little orange tabby cash is pumped that little bastard. What that that sounds irresponsible on the trains parts such a thing to do do question of the poll that fun the train or the cat fantastic. The worst part is i have to now go back in as i'm editing and cut out together no no to add these polls manning all of these. These are all elliott. Jesus three drunk drivers all crash into each other and mount pleasant at two two. Am what a perfect storm. Three hundred drivers come together for. I have another drunk person story today to creighton. Fucker you going. It's a pandemic i emma. Where are you going. I teach that. What's the what's the worst time to drive. You know no the hell is i. Guess now under a winner. The wins the highest fatality rate for car rush hour. Gimme a time okay. Eight am three to six. Pm sixteen percent of fatalities occur in those hours. That's the highest rate. Yeah winner other least fatalities. Two am two to three. Am sundays yeah that so i always tell the kids in class. I'm like hey if you're really worried about driving wait your parents off at like you know one forty-five on a sunday morning take having take you out driving. It's really say. Hey there's nobody out. There's nobody out greedy. Couple shamed for tacky wedding invite that demands guest gift money. I'm okay with asking for money. Your wedding where i'm like. Oh that's like my cousin. She and her now husband had been married or susan had been living together for years in sin. How are they disgusting. They shared a bed too. Because i've been in their house. They only had one bed. No i thought they use the twin beds upstairs so they made us sleep. You need money when you first get married though. I'm okay with asking for money. I wish we would've done more more asking for money. Yeah it would have been easier at the time women better. Yeah it's the same christmas. Just drop a ten twenty. Now we we take. I mean that's what i take from my parents money. Yeah that's exactly what we need. That's best gift you can check easier. We can go tires on the car we can go do. Xyz yeah you know it it just is the easiest gift and if got it give it right. I just money's the best gift. Always i think the worst part is like exchanging gifts with like siblings. Because you're like none of you have money ain't none of you money to not be like my one brother who's an artist is. Here's some of art like fucker us like make this anyway. Like you're making it us already money. It's a great gift because they're also it is in his girlfriend's pottery was very nominal as well. I use that if you could please die. Have your art worth more at a tragic accident that we could. We could sell it. Hold onto it first. Then that we've antastic yes. She opens up her soda. What defies i'm talking sentence. Now she's taking a drink clog log going going go now. She's laughing and now it's going up or nose go You drinking more soda yet push. She's putting the bottle to her lips pulling up. She can't quite commit stopped. She has the same problem at night. Can't quite it now. She's giving that look the same look that she gives me a night she. That's the wrong holes. I say noces have many functions not just for smelling only not out of them. Woman's domestic abuse charity loses five million euros. Because it's not gender-neutral. Do you have the mr potato head story controversy. This week i do not i last week. Did you did did the realize they backtrack ideal because i was like what the fuck new poll question my you care about mr potato head no longer having gender and then he switched back but the question is do you care. I understand the snip snap. Poll question do poll question. Do you have the energy to care about mr potato head and the controversy surrounding it. I don't have the energy. i have to give a poll. Do you understand the emotional toll that three the sect amies has. You can't take this power and just do this. It's not adding that poll come. I won't be there. Ever yard sale bowl revealed to be rare chinese artifact worth up to five hundred dollars that too. I don't know why. I didn't use it because i don't think it was that weird but that's crazy. I thought it was not i mean. That's always kinda the dream. Iky buy something for fifty cents and my mother has a couch a love see. I think it's a love. See couch thing that thing in the front room that small little thing that she poor stores boxes on. I think it's worth some money. Yeah she also has some dolls in her doll case. That are worth the money that i would really like to know of actual value of garfield puzzles worth money. Probably because it's signed by. Jim davis by the creator garfield because my mother when my dad was in college my mama's as a nanny putting my dad through school For jim davis creator of garfield. Yeah so she nanny. Jim davis son while he was while garfield was huge. Yeah was a. I mean not that. It's not huge now but like while it was absolutely janus and so we have loss of. Jim davis garfield related things. My mom has all kinds of stuff from him and they have a big signed puzzle from him. I bet it is worth some stuff. They have some weird. My parents have stuff like that. My grandparents had a lot of weird stuff. Grandparents had a ton of weird stuff. Like that that i find still day elected. You go to the lakers. Yeah weird. there's still wearing fact. Oh for sure. Well that's because like my grandpa went around the world for. Yeah you know. And so he got all kinds of. I mean like a lot of my mom's doll cases from when my grandpa went out to japan and brought home like this. Like you doll. Whatever i would be interested in to see just like if it does have actual value. Yes i'm guessing. They don't have that kind of stuff. Insured probably probably somebody would should do if it is worth stuff yeah. Wild australian. Sheep gets sheared of seventy eight pounds of wool. That's crazy fuck tunnel. I bet almost all seventy pounds of that are worthless though. Yeah because it's all like matted and yeah they can't use any of it it had gotten it escaped and survived and lived off the land in hadn't been cheered which is like for sheep right. We've bred now as we bred them so much that they have to have to have cows who just get off being milked new poll question. Do cows get off guy. This is a this is a great segment. you cannot keep putting polls in well. That's the whole point of it and then next week at the end after we do all of our stories we'll go over the poll for the previous we. Hey anu questions for the next week totally forgotten. What polls we've we've done. That's okay. I will do it. I do all the heavy lifting in this show anyway. Why would i stop now. You're just fucking along for the ride. I am british holiday. Park identified quote people with irish accents as undesirable guests. What shit s nece- d do you find to be the most annoying no not doing this like defined irish people like to be like cockney accents annoy me like a cockney accent oh and like male cockney accents are okay female cockney accents no-go where i'm just like no no sure the accent jersey okay. You don't jersey okay. Like new york boston. How bossie jersey shore is a type of people. I don't like the oh like Louisiana yeah like crawled ads. Yeah loving your cousin too much alabama and don't be stupid it's an adjacent state to bc farmer grabs links by neck skulls. It for killing chickens. Okay i think big cats are still like regular cat. Yeah she's just like grab it. Like i feel like little cats have big cat energy and big have little cat energy thinks. I think you're right. New poll question casts have located energy. Little cats have big headed. That's kinda like how i feel about like. Big dogs are like super lovable. And like kind of like dopey yet and then little doctor. That's how i feel like has dunkin. I feel like donnie are super bowl. Super lovable like amir was going to rip your fucking face off like mira. Oh yeah sure or like ginny would have ripped. Oh yeah jimmy was not a friendly dog. No unless it took a while for g. and that was partially my fault. I i didn't actually mostly your doors your but like i hadn't i didn't do the research and i've learned a lot. Well sure and sell mostly from me. As i explained things to you restaurant unveils fruit loop pizza. You know. it's not that bad. It's like a breakfast pizza. It's got like cream cheese as the sauce fruit loops of on top. Okay that's like a pastry actually looked cutting buying you explain. You didn't explain it. All pizza used and i pictured a pepperoni pizza with free live flooding. That's not my fault. that is your fault. Poll question isn't my fault. Has a pictures incorrect things. When i say that. I don't think there's going to be. That's the point of the whole. Fuck cured it. It's the whole point. You don't get comedy. it's fine. I i know we both though you don't get comedy dr pierce in court video. Call while performing. I said that i win schitt. Let's say it again. Dr in court call while performing surgery. What kind of surgery is acceptable for him. To be zoom. Call if it's on me. None like removing like ingrown hair. That's a little too much. I'm okay maybe like assist assist and k lobotomy. No i'm good okay. Bali legal anyway. Yeah what point are you like. That's okay but that's not okay. Is there ever realistically nine ethically as a doctor. There's probably none. i mean. I'm technically not allowed to take phone calls at work while watching the never have. Yeah i'm technically not to take phone calls at work. But like he was on he was performing was on anesthesia. Yes that's crazy. Yeah i the closest you ever get to death without actually dying and he was on he was like hey hold on just one second any flat lines in the middle. And you're like hold on. Got him back. sit in your poop. Get a six pack from duke law a new. Give a crap challenge you. Do you think it's actually sitting in your poop or just like a picture also when you poop do you check it afterwards. New poll question. You d check it afterwards before flush. Check it do you. I always do. Yeah i always do. We like looking down there while looking for like color consistency glass. It's like do you look you go to the bathroom. Like around period time okay. Because i'm always like really hydrated or really not have always really proud of myself of i am like oh. That's crystal clear bay super hydrated. I can have a soda or cookie rather have a cookie because like the trump insurrectionist who put his feet up on speaker. Pelosi's desk just exploded at his judge because he's been locked up for a whole month and it's not fair. yeah. I saw that too. It's new process. All i did was put my feet up on the desk. That's all illegally now your desk. Yeah not you're desperate to overthrow the government. I don't know if they really tried to overthrow the go. I feel like saying they tried to overthrow the government. A little lake nine didn't really. They just were like storming it like that. I think they do want to do harm. They physically hurt somebody. But like i don't think they were gonna ever successfully overthrow the government they were and has successfully do it but like they were mob mentality gonna kill for sure. I definitely mob mentality going to hurt people. Yeah for sure. I mean they killed that one police officer. They dress up. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh yeah which is a terrible yes but like they were never going to be successful in any capacity ever oregon d you i suspect had a staggering point seven seven blood alcohol shit or than nine times the legal limit. You want to teach in class that if you're at a point four five blood alcohol content or be l. The you're probably dead. This dude had a point seven seven. The that's insane nine over nine times the legal limit. That's dude that drinks every day all day ticket. It's ever yeah forever. You need some help beyond help. And that's something. Where if you if he stopped drinking. Now you would. You would die. Yeah is crazy to me. Yeah that's absolutely insane. Put seven seven is insane. I hadn't realized that people could go through withdrawal from alcohol. The way really. Yeah i don't know why i didn't realize that. But i was watching always sunny in philadelphia when they were trying to quarantine because they were sick. Okay but they had literally just stopped drinking. And that's what they were going through. They were withdrawing from the outer about. And i was like you would draw from out goes on and i was like. Oh yeah it's very serious. Buck it's crazy. That alcohol is legal. The same capacity that it and then the capacity that it is. Yes really. Kind of crazy yeah. Alcohol was invented. Today it would certainly not be certainly not a yeah. I mean comparatively to like marijuana. Yeah i don't think it's i think it's way worse you will. You can't odeal marijuana. Can't and like i was thinking i sorry. I read this book and high school where this girl moved out to california to live with her aunt uncle and she was like this prim and proper girl when she got out there and she met this group of friends in the one kid dot et one of her friends died and she had to funeral and but in the book they were just like yeah. He died because he was stoned like he. Oh he just he did something like one of those things where like. Hey if they offer you you know like darren shit like what a terrible. Yeah betty white. Ninety nine kisses a giant grizzly bear in adorable video. The gif hers fucking kiss the grizzly bear. Yeah probably very heavily sedated. Grizzly does very today. Yeah our worried about that. I love betty white. I know you do. She's a she's a saint. I oh man faces up to sixty five years in prison for foraging postage stamps for his ebay business. That's crazy you make a lot of money. You couldn't have made that much money now. I don't know people get real weird about stan. How hard do you think it would be to fake a stamp. I would find it hard to fake anything. Just because i have no idea how to how one does like couldn't you just kind of make a sticker and put it on and be like postage-stamp let's oppose is there like a uv. Rays thing that they shine on a post stamp when they go through a machine to check. It have no idea. There must be some type of way that they do that. Right has to be recipes something to that. Yeah that's a weird concept to me where that seems like a very easy to fake but also like money. Did you save in the long term from doing that right. There's no way it was like that much now. Now i know amazon people who sell like books for like ninety nine cents. Yeah they make their money off of the postage charge. You four dollars to post it right where it probably costs in like two dollars. Maybe right right where they're like. Oh that's really where they made. Their money was off of like pay for pay. Postage which i'm fine with. Yeah a toilet. Seat with built in scales now exists so you can go ahead and away your load. Do you ever weigh yourself in the yourself. Now i have. Yes we've got the scale now any different. I've never had a difference. Ever wants have had difference even after i'm like may that was a lot of poo in never. I've never had a difference ever. Yeah i was like. Oh what's wrong with me. But i'll i'll go to the way myself in the morning at a go to the gym and myself in a comeback anyway more ruling. What the muck. Jim and i'm like. Is it just the water. That i drink because i have probably like a half gallon of water at that point. Yeah really that must be always like the worst part was on monday. I was to sixteen hour really. Yeah it last night. When i weighed myself with the dog i was to twenty two as one semester. That's damn are you kidding me. You can't that's such a huge difference. Who knows who. Oh i checked it twice. I checked my weight twice choosing to those like hot damn nice. I'm link. I've dropped four pounds the last time i looked like a week or two and then the literally five days later i'm like damn i'm right back up but i did myself in the morning and then last night was in the evening after dinner and all that stuff. So that's such pig. My weight does that drives on. You're saying it fluctuates by ten pounds. Upper one way or the other all the time and it drives me in san. I'm sorry it's fine okay. Texas schools chivalry assignment toll. Girls to dress to please men. I'm good. aren't they supposed to not dress to distract men. How do i address to pleased and all right. How often do you dress to please me i. I'm leaving that pause and now i'm trying to but it's like but but it's like Like when we go owl Right you've never noticed. I do i. Just i'm not that kind of guy who's like i just you know that's not me you know i'm i'm just shouldn't expect you have or compliment but i'm so bad i try and will you. Once i've trapped you bad job of that you know that it's one of those things shouldn't trust. Stop trying you're right. I should keep trying. I just won't because it's just i forgot just like i forget i forget but especially if i see that you put time and effort your hair. Today i've done this my right. Hey dougie you're the cutest dog in the world. You're the cutest baby. I love you. So matt ever said that. Such a handsome boy. Who's the best boy in the world. I love that far with that dog like literally. We're like gonna leave the house today without kissing me goodbye. The only reason it is very true you were giving the dogs so much tension and then you're like then you just walked out like thank god. I walked out behind you to get the dog. And then give you the you were coming out. He's going to. Leigh kissed me. That was that first kiss. Goodbye was kinda weak and i leaned out as eilly down at the same time. Did that was the problem. But i went back in. I noticed we kiss. I gave you a much better kiss. True false true okay by you do complement the dog. Because he needs it you needed to. I'm so bad at it. And i don't mean to be. He's a good boy. You should you boy. Why are you so cute. I don't say why are you. So why are you saying yeah. I know why he's cute because he's only got cute dogs anyway. That's been tested argue. Thank you for listening as always thank you. You can check out my podcast. I just finished where i just talked about. Sort of the neuromancer and my wife. Because i don't like. And i think you referenced be clearly didn't listen so you know what listen. I do think there's going to be a new episode of this week. With scott where i talked about one division. That's the plan mark market. I have a new podcast starting together and we're also talking about one division. Oh fuck. I can't keep up anymore. I know you can't see anything other stuff in the other brewer. Babe you know. He's very he's very wonderful. I'm not i gov house frog a house frog frown. How new poll. Last poll question for the is tessa. A house frog. Yes or no probably anyway. Do you have the last florida man. Russia doozy to men. What men sorry. Excuse me florida men. One dressed in a bull. Onesie attempt to burn down house with ragu sauce. Police say is ragu sauce burnable. 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The "Forrest Gump" of Chicago Crime | S1 E5

The City

34:49 min | 3 years ago

The "Forrest Gump" of Chicago Crime | S1 E5

"Henry Henderson was at his wit's end. The city was like a vacuum sucking in illegal dumping activities. This is clearly wrong. This is clearly illegal and they're clearly the authority to make the stop. The Commissioner of Chicago's department of the environment had spent the last several years fighting John Christopher's illegal dumps. And yet the mountains of debris remained in Northland. L Henderson had reasoned with John Christopher. He had threatened him with legal action. He'd eventually taken him to court, but even with a civil ruling against him, the courts had failed Henderson had even turned to the state Environmental Protection Agency. None of it had worked well. John Christopher, basically, disppeared. Henry Henderson had not been able to bring John Christopher to Justice or get Justice for the people of north Mondale. But Henry Henderson had one more card to play Scott's old. Friend and who he was. I assistant that the time Henderson called on Scott Lazar. I assistant US attorney in the northern district of Illinois. In other words, one of Chicago's top federal prosecutors Lazar is office had the power to bring federal criminal charges against John Christopher. So we think that this is a larger criminal endeavour here, and we really need some help. Henry was like inspector Javert going after Christopher, that's Scott Lazar, an inspector, John there is the police inspector from lame as rob, who relentlessly hunts down the main character over the course of the story. It's not a perfect comparison, but basically Lazar new Henderson was on a mission. He knew about Christopher and he'd been pursuing them for a long time. And even though they were friends, Lazar gives Henderson the brush off I have to rip off. Lazar basically says, sorry, Henry, we can't help you catch this. John Christopher guy. The DOJ doesn't work on municipal waste issues, but that wasn't the real reason. We couldn't tell Andrea Christopher was working undercover at the time not only to the federal government already know all about John Christopher. John Christopher was on its payroll even while he was dumping in north Lauderdale this was a sacred undercover investigation, which was one of the more successful on their cover investigations at our office. And so we weren't going to end at Chicago's most notorious illegal. Dumper was also working for the FBI. I'm Robin Aamer and from USA today, this is the city. If you like the city, you may like another show from USA today. The five things podcast covers the five most important stories of the day and why they matter in less than five minutes. New episodes are available every morning, Monday through Saturday, and you can subscribe to five things for free on apple podcasts or wherever you listen. So who was this guy who showed up to a vacant lot on Chicago's west side in a limousine who is John Christopher? Really to answer that question, we need to go back to January nineteen seventy nine and then mayor Michael Bowland epic. Million tons of snow over twenty four in the city of Chicago. Visit. Sierra by the federal government. Even in the pantheon of Chicago winters. This was one for the ages. People still talk about the blizzard of nineteen seventy nine and not just because of all the snow Blanda had to defend his administration's response to this record snowfall to an angry and skeptical city council. Here enough streets, four thousand miles of streets. That the business from Chicago Los Angeles and meteorologists had forecast just two to four inches of snow and social Kaga was completely unprepared. When the blizzard instead dumped more than twenty inches on the city, the storm collapsed roofs and trapped people in their homes, paralyzing the city for weeks and getting rid of all that snow would prove to be a monumental challenge for the city concerned about the getting equipment of people out the district. You're not doing an accounting at the same time. We'll have an opportunity to do that. A later pointing the ensuing cleanup and that lack of accounting presented a perfect opportunity for then twenty eight year old. John Christopher the city hired private contractors to help clear the streets and Christopher had a guy inside city government who paid him for snow removal work. He never did. I don't recall the exact facts of that case, but I can say that he was alleged to have been submitting false invoices. This is Jim Davis. He was an FBI agent from nineteen eighty five to two thousand eleven and this epic snowstorm would eventually cause his life to intersect with John Christopher's in a very big way. I talked to John every day multiple times every single day from July of nineteen ninety two until January of nineteen ninety. Six. I probably had a close relationship with him during that time than than anyone else in. It was a kind of a love hate relationship. If you Google, Jim Davis FBI. One of the first hits you get is a photo of a very tall man in a black shirt with dog tags around his neck. That's Jim Davis. He's standing in front of a white tiled wall, and he's looking straight at the camera. In one hand, he's holding a piece of paper that reads f. b. i. twelve December two thousand three. And his other hand is resting on the shoulder of Saddam Hussein. I arrested Saddam Hussein, you know, telling you man, life is like a box of chocolates. Man, I am the Forrest Gump, the FBI, Jim Davis calls himself the forest. Gump of the FBI because he has a tendency to show up in big moments in history like Saddam Hussein's, arrest. He and John Christopher were well matched in that way. A federal prosecutor gave John Christopher almost the same nickname Chicago's quote, Forrest Gump of crime in the many hours they later spent together. Jim Davis learned a lot about John Christopher's illegal schemes, including the one he pulled during the blizzard of seventy nine. You'd Goram to some corrupt folks at the driver's license bureau. You know, secretary state's office. He had had a previous relationship with. He got a driver's license in the name of Richard McCann in the chaos. After the blizzard, John Christopher was part of a group of people that conspired to defraud the city. They submitted fake invoices for snow removal work. They never did the company name. They used was McCann construction. So the city issued a check. Check in the name of Richard McCann. The name on John Christopher's fake ID. The check was for a hundred and twelve thousand dollars a decent hall for not having cleared so much as a teaspoon of snow. So check in hand. John Christopher walked into a Bank. He tried to cash the check, but something about him, raised a red flag with Bank employees who asked him for his. I d. These guys look to Jen who is Italian and said, you know, you don't look Irish John Christopher responded by saying he was adopted, but McCann the name on his fake ID had blown his cover. And so Jon Christopher handled these Bank employees the way he normally handled people who got in his way, he tried to bribe them. He offered to take the vice president of the Bank out to lunch. And when that didn't work, he offered him a Betamax an expensive precursor to the VHS, but the Bank manager didn't budge. She ended up calling the FBI. The city had paid John Christopher from a pool of money that came from federal disaster relief funds, which meant that John Christopher hadn't just defraud the city. He had also defrauded the federal government, the FBI arrested, John Christopher, and he now faced up to fifteen years in prison. Without knowing it, he'd also helped alter the course of Chicago history more than thirty. Other companies were also investigated for defrauding Chicago's snow disaster fund at least one city official was indicted for helping them and mayor ba- Landik was blamed for letting it all happen on his watch. In the next election, he'd lose to an upstart anti machine candidate named Jane Byrne who became the only woman ever to serve as Chicago's mayor. This is why people still talk about the blizzard of nineteen Seventy-nine. It wasn't just all the snow. It was the political fallout. John Christopher's entanglement with the law started long before the blizzard. He came up in a world or being the Forrest Gump of Chicago crime wasn't all that remarkable. John Christopher grew up just a few miles from north Lonsdale in an Italian neighborhood. Full of families descended from the old Taylor street crew. One of the original street crews of the Chicago outfit, which in Chicago is what we call the mob. His great uncle was a guy named fior who cherry. They called him fee, and he was kind of a notorious mob guy. And you know, in the fifties and sixties the press described Bucci berry as a west side overlord in charge of loansharking and other rackets. He was also suspected of having been involved in multiple murders. One of which was incredibly gruesome. I'll spare you the details, but I can tell you that it involved a blow torch and a cattle prod. Gutierrez was later caught on an f. b. i. wire laughing and bragging about it. He was never indicted for murder, but he was indicted late in life. For theft, soliciting others to commit theft and possession of two hundred thousand dollars worth of stolen construction equipment. John Christopher's crimes. At least the ones he told the FBI about started when he was a teenager, he was a tough streak kidding. You know, if you look at it some of the transcripts, he often refers to himself as you know, being on the corner. You know, this is the way I operate on the corner. Some guys go to college. I came from the corner. When he was a teenager in the mid to late sixties. John Christopher joined a neighborhood street gang called the jokers. He later tell Jim Davis that the jokers would quote protect their neighborhood from any quote, undesirable elements that meant mostly black families who were moving to the west side as it transitioned from white to Black John Christopher, and the jokers threatened and intimidated these newcomers and in some cases through molotov cocktails into their buildings. John Christopher was arrested at nineteen for breaking into cars. He tried to bribe both the arresting officer and the judge. He was sent to the army instead of prison was honorably discharged soon after he told the FBI that he thought his great uncle fee had something to do with getting him out a few years later, his father got him a job with the department of streets and sanitation John Christopher, and the other workers would often sit around the office playing cards. Instead of working one day, someone from the inspector general's office, caught them slacking off. The inspector threatened to report them. So John Christopher and his colleagues beep up the inspector and told him to write a good report on the unit which he did, but ultimately defrauding the federal government after the blizzard of nineteen seventy nine was what put him on the FBI's radar. John Christopher snow fraud case went to trial in nineteen eighty, but ended in a mistrial. And while he was waiting for a new trial to begin, he was looking for silencer to kill a witness against him. A silence are silencers. Are those devices you attached to the muzzle of a gun to muffle the sound of a shot? They were and still are illegal in Illinois. The FBI had gotten word from an informant that John Christopher was in the market for a silencer allegedly. So he could murder a federal witness. So the FBI coordinated with an undercover agent from the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms in order to sell him. One minute was a by bus scenario rates which all have been once John Christopher was sentenced to four years in federal prison for possession of the silencer and another eight years for trying to cash the snow removal check, but behind bars. He stayed true to his roots. John didn't rat. In the parlance of the outfit. John was a stand up guy. He didn't snitch on anyone else who'd been involved in the snow fraud. Even though he could have parlayed that information for a lighter sentence. John's a us associated to the mafia in Chicago. There were other people that were involved in that scheme that John didn't give up. So he went to prison for them, didn't you know take anybody down in. I think that he expected that in return for that in return, Jim Davis says, John Christopher expected the mob to support his family since he would not be able to provide for them while he was locked up. I think that he expected that they would do a better job at taking care of his family while he was in prison and they hadn't done that. After roughly four years in federal prison, John Christopher was put on parole. He returned to his old ways, but he also came back with doubts about his loyalty to the mob. This is alternately how Jim Davis would become John Christopher's f. b. i. handler when the bureau exploited John Christopher's doubts about the mob and he crossed over and started wearing a wire. 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And that attracts the attention of the FBI's financial crime squad agent there named Tony Dangelo. He identified John Christopher as a subject in that investigation. Basically, what I did is I I looked at everything that was going on the Bank. This is Tony Dangelo. Cosmopolitan Bank had seemed like it was thriving with money in its vault and plenty of account holders, and I'm wondering how could a well capitalized Bank in the late nineteen eighties, all of a sudden go into receivership. So I looked at the bad loans and who turns out to be at the center of this Bank failure. Once I looked at the bad loans, the probably the biggest bad loan at the Bank was for an individual named John Christopher and his various entities. Mr. Christopher had a couple of trucking companies, some other businesses and he had borrowed. I can't remember the exact amount, but I believe the total deficit of the Bank was in the millions two point, five million. That's what John Christopher would later Saint in court. And he also overstated. The success of his companies is trucking businesses. So he basically made up income that was not there. It looked like John Christopher had used these bad loans to build up his business. It's easy to build up your business, especially when you're not paying loans back. So Tony Dangelo does a background check on John Christopher and finds he's already in the FBI's database. I was amazed because found out he was a convicted felon organized crime. Tony Dangelo learns all about the snow fraud. Case and the silencer and the alleged plan to murder a federal witness and about John Christopher's ties to the outfit or knew he was extremely bad news with his criminal background. It was highly unlikely that John Christopher would actually qualify for millions of dollars in Bank loans. So Tony Dangelo begins to suspect that the Bank president must be in on it de ngelo wanted to use John Christopher to get to the Bank president, but everybody told me, John Christopher will not talk to you. There's absolutely no, he's gonna cooperate. He's not going to talk to you. It's a waste of time. He decides to try anyway. He finds John Christopher's number and calls him and actually picked up the phone. I introduced myself. I take a low key approach, so I told them who I was, I looked at your your dealings with cosmopolitan Bank. I've got you dead to right on financial fraud with your loan application. You might think John Christopher would just hang up the phone. Point, but Tony Dangelo says, just meet with me. All you have to do is listen. And I found in my career that people are very curious. They wanna know what, what information you have about them? What evidence and also mentioned to him. I know you just to jail, you got a couple of kids maybe we can help each other. So ultimately he agreed to meet me. You wanna meet me alone. So I did meet him alone. We met at a Pizza Hut. Insist row, Illinois. Cicero is a suburb just west of Chicago. It's where Capone based a lot of his operations and this Pizza Hut was less than a ten minute drive from the north Lonsdale dumps. So when Henry Henderson, the environment Commissioner says John Chris rebate soclean dispirit John Christopher was just a mile or two away. Eating pizza with the FBI. Here's how Tony de ngelo describes that first meeting. John Christopher was out of central casting for the sopranos. I mean, if you wanna know a mobbed up guy, take a picture. John Christopher built like a bull about five, ten stocky no neck. Wearing a member's only jacket toxin, Dem's and does. So I laid out my case against him. You know, I said, I'm fellow talion while we meet a couple more times. You can just listen to me talk. You don't have to do anything. So we established a comfort level. So they meet again at the same Pizza Hut in Cicero, I knew he had, I think at one of his sons was about eight or ten in the during the first conversation, he mentioned that there's son like baseball. I brought him a a box of baseball cards for son. They talk again and again, and again, and pretty soon they're talking regularly, but they're not talking about the dumps or the people living near them with each meeting. You establish more of a report, more of a trust factor, get to know each other, and I'm doing analysis of him what's making him tick, Tony Dangelo learns. But John Christopher is still angry about the way his family was treated while he was in prison. The promises have been broken. Usually he wouldn't bring something like that up so that something you could tell he was harboring deep seated. Resentment or is family not being taken care of. I think he was really scared about serving another long stretch in prison in not seeing his kids knowing that they're going to be teenagers and not being there to Dabney influence over their lives slowly. But surely, John Christopher starts to give the FBI information. I about cosmopolitan national Bank. The Bank president would later be convicted for bribery Bank fraud and tax evasion. And pretty soon John Christopher would give the bureau much much more that's after the break. Before we get back to the story. I wanna tell you about another podcast you might enjoy if you like the city. You might also like future. Perfect. A new podcast from vox future perfect explores provocative ideas that could radically improve the world in time where the news has never felt more dire or distressing future. Perfect. Offers a window into a brighter more hopeful world. It's host. Dylan Matthews asks big questions. Like what career should I choose to do the most good? Or is it possible to make our prisons more humane? These questions don't have simple, yes or no answers, but they do kick off fascinating conversations. Listen to those conversations every Wednesday on future. Perfect. By vox you can find the show on apple podcasts or ever you're listening. Okay. Back to the story. FBI special agent. Tony Angelo had made himself a fixture in John Christopher's life. I would travel around with him, go to meetings with them, and I had a cover John, introduce me as his pin headed lawyer from down in Springfield, we what kind of meetings would you go to with? We had a meeting once in Greek town, and the owner of the restaurant came up and John, you know, he'd get a Cup of coffee and rather than us spoon, he'd stick his big fat finger in there and stirred up. And he looked at the owner of the restaurant. He goes, if you don't pay your milk money, you're gonna pineapple through the window. In other words, he's threatening to bomb the restaurant. And I guess this guy maybe fallen behind us. That's probably why John pick this restaurant for the meeting, the FBI was grooming John Christopher as an informant. And here he was making threats right in front of one of its agents, a kick them. Under the table. And he looked over and forgot. I was sitting there in moments like these John Christopher was inadvertently revealing that his crimes still went way beyond Bank fraud crimes. The FBI was willing to overlook like that six-storey dump in a certain Westside neighborhood. One day during one of these meetings, he goes, oh, are you interested in politicians? John Christopher saying this to an f. b. i. agents. This was a big deal. Remember John Christopher was a stand up guy. He never read it on anyone even when it could have meant less prison time, and he knew the stories about his great uncle fee about what the mob could do to anyone who crossed them. But John Christopher had done the math given all the evidence, Tony de ngelo had amassed against him. He was almost certainly facing prison time for the cosmopolitan Bank fraud and based on what had happened before he's expected that if he went back to prison, his family would not be taken care of. So when John Christopher asks, oh, are you interested in politicians? Absolutely. What do you have on politicians? Well, little note the time that John Christopher them bribing and paying off and doing what every new with aldermen and various city officials, Tony Dangelo. Had just landed a major informant one so big. He was now outside of his purview. So the FBI calls on its public corruption squad and special agent, Jim Davis. And at first, Jim Davis is skeptical about this new informants. Here I'm going to be skeptical everybody, you know, it just kinda sounded too good to be true from the perspective of guy doing a corruption investigation. You know, this guy walks in the door and basically says, I am a bribing machine in. I was trying to verify that. I wanted to make sure that he was telling me the truth. As they're sitting down for one of their first interviews, Jim Davis decides to give John Christopher a little test to see if he's really equipped to Brian elected official across the interview table. Jim Davis asks John Christopher how much money he has on him. And in response Jong Christopher stands up an empty his pockets, pulling out change and balls of Lind and gum wrappers choice would okay. John. If a bogus visual came by today and said, you know, I need five hundred dollars. What would you do. He says, oh, any reached into his back pocket and he pulled out five one hundred dollar bills that he kept in his back pocket specifically for paying bribes. And that's the way he walked around life. John Christopher tells Jim Davis that he's been bribing twenty fourth ward, alderman Bill Henry to the tune of five thousand dollars a month and not only Bill. Henry Johnson does the, he'd been paying public officials entire life. There's another alderman who's palm. He Greece in exchange for help setting up yet. Another rock crusher, their city inspectors who showed up at the dumps, their city workers. He bribed them even if he wasn't totally sure what they could do to help him. Just as a way of quote, keeping the heat off. He had grown up in Chicago doing business in Chicago committing gonna, petty crimes when he was a younger kid that that they resolved by rive in police officers or. Prosecutors to John Christopher. This was just the cost of doing business. So using tire life had been can ingrain with this idea that you paid public officials to get through life to people in north London. While the illegal dumping was the only one of John Christopher's climbs that mattered. But the FBI's interest was elsewhere to the bureau. The legal dumps just one chapter in John Christopher's long, criminal history. Why take him down for dumping on the west side when you could instead use him to catch corrupt city officials all over town because of John. Christopher really was this bribing machine. Then he presented the FBI with a unique opportunity if he could wear a wire and record his meetings with city officials record his bribes to city officials. There is no telling how many crooked politicians they catch because here's this guy, a standup guy who never ratted who's engaged in all kinds of illegal. Activity who's connected to the outfit. I mean, he's the great nephew of notorious mobster fee Bucci, airy. He's the Forrest Gump of Chicago crime. He's exactly the kind of guy you'd never suspect of working for the FBI which would make him the perfect f. b. i. mole. I don't think that we've ever had anybody who had his level of credibility who was working with her day, had a sense that this was going to be a big case. And so when Henry Henderson reaches out to his friend, Scott Lazar the federal prosecutor saying, we think that this is a larger criminal endeavour here and we really need some help. Scotland had to give Henderson the brush off. I had to rebuff him because John Christopher had already been recruited by the FBI we couldn't tell on about it. Christopher was working under governor at the time. The feds could have sent John Christopher to prison in nineteen Ninety-one. Federal prosecutors could have gone after him for legal, dumping the mountain, the dust, the asthma, cracked foundations. The feds could have ended at all, but letting continue was useful. This was a sacred undercover investigation was one of the more successful undercover investigations at our office acted and so we weren't going to end. 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U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan emboldens resurgent Taliban

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U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan emboldens resurgent Taliban

"From cbc podcasts and the fifth estate brainwashed is a multi part investigation into the cia experiments in mind control from the cold war and m. k. Ultra to the so-called war on terror. We learn about a psychiatrist who used his patients as human guinea pigs. And what happens when the military and medicine collide. Listen to brainwashed on the cbc. Listen up or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a podcast. Our allies and partners have stood beside sinus shoulder to shoulder afghanistan for almost twenty years. We're deeply grateful for the contributions they have made to our shared mission from the sacrifices they've born that was the us president. Joe biden in april telling his nation and the world that what has felt like an endless war has finally come to an end now. Those words have become reality on the ground in afghanistan as us troops pull out this week. The top us commander relinquished his position. At a ceremony in kabul the move is already emboldened a resurgent taliban and could see the country return to that that groups ruthless rule. Jim davis law said his son canadian corporal. Paul davis to the war in afghanistan. Jim good morning. Good morning mark. It's it's a sensitive conversation. I do appreciate you making time with us. What what went through your your mind when you heard the. Us president biden promised to end was called the forever war. We knew that they wouldn't be there forever. We knew this would end. And now it's ending. How do you feel about that whether the first thing that crossed my mind was. I was appreciative of president. Biden saying that He was going to work with the rest of the nato countries in other words work with candidate and etc. And how we do the withdrawal wasn't didn't come across that it was just gonna be a polo but since then i'm a little nervous because you just look at what happened. Twenty two special sell. Afghan soldiers surrendered to the taliban and we're executed. And i remember president biden making the comment that these Special afghan soldiers were well trained by. Us soldiers. And i know candidates over their training soldiers too. So i'm I'm scared to death very nervous. Because i think the inevitable's going to happen. I believe the taliban will eventually take the country back. These i think the current government will collapse. Let's talk about your son in the contribution that that he made. Well i tell you. I think giving a fight about the comment that our soldiers Guide in vain. That means that Somebody sacrifice their life hoping to make things better and things don't get better than they died in vain. But when you're asking me about my boy. I spent two hours with him. Before he boarded the plane to go to afghanistan in winnipeg and we had quite the conversation. And i know deep down. He honestly believed he was going to afghanistan to make a better life for the people of afghanistan especially the women and the young girls. So what i know is that he died for a good cause which is nothing to do with dying in vain. I just put the dine in vain outta my mind completely. Because i think paul and the rest of his comrades so that fell over there. They died an honorable death. They were doing a good cause If i may take a moment market My son's funeral At the reception to Women from afghanistan came to me. They give me their condolences through the interpreter. And i looked at them. And i saw in there is what i saw was broken souls. I thought here to women that come so far to a foreign country like canada and and i could see that i could immediately read the hardship that they were coming from. And that's when i knew my boy die for good cause if you understand what i'm saying do you remember conversations you had with your son or or maybe letters or communication. You had with him when he was in afghanistan. Did he feel he was making a difference when he was on the ground. There well he unfortunately he Died in my second to have six and he was On the search and destroy mission to root out the taliban in seldom canada her can't it was just taken over the mission from the united states. So he was the first casualty. Canada lost he was also last one to die under. Us command kennedy was just taken over the mission but i've talked to so many variants and so many families that have lost somebody sense then and Yes i can tell you. They were making a huge difference. Candidate accomplished a lot there and sharon. I visited afghanistan. The canadian military. Send us over to help us with our grief and I could read how wonderful things were in afghanistan with the canadian soldiers. They were doing a good job. They knew it and you could tell and message. I would like to give the veterans that have come home with injuries. My son poverty so happy that they did come back that they made it home safely. And i want them to know that they've Audible work over there. It's just sad that it's twenty years have gone by and It's gonna go back to where it used to be. Is that your worst fear because as we know now. The taliban is controlling at least eighty five percent of the country and that's slipping day by day. We're hearing about the fact that women are now being told that they can no longer go to school that they must stay at home. They cannot leave their homes unaccompanied to feel the all those gains that your son was part of that was made. There are all now being lost in a short short period so true. And that's what's disheartening. But we don't live in a perfect world. I don't know what the answer is how we could prevent it. That it was nato forces were there and it would have been so much nicer than the un could work with all these other countries Like with iran and etcetera even russia and china. If we could somehow all get together and say look. Let's bring peace to afghanistan but unfortunately that's that was that will never happen and It's just very sad and my biggest fear is that It get so bad that we may find ourselves back there again. I understand that you met former president. I've gone president hamid karzai in two thousand six in ottawa. Not not long after your son was killed. You said something to him. What did you say. It may prevent occurs. I had a reception in the house of commons. Private reception he was giving me is condolences for the loss of my son and Is he held my hand. I pulled my hand away in took his hand. And i said mr president. I have a message for you. And i told him about the two ladies that came to my son's funeral and i said when i met them that's when i knew why my son had to die in your country and i said there will be peace in your country some days sir and when i said that to him it's incredible mark. I could see tears and advice. Swelling up this is. He was mostly touched that. Tim d do you still believe there will be peace in afghanistan. One day that perhaps your son will be part of that legacy well. That's was my wish. I wanted to go visit afghanistan. The second time and be there to really appreciate. That's where my son died. But i just can't see peace coming. So i do for president biden. Who say okay. It's gotta come to an end. I agree with him. Yes it's gotta come to an end for the allies. But i don't know how you do that just worries me. When i do want to stress the point that our soldiers the ones that have been injured the forty thousand that were there they all deserve a medal of honor because they were there for a good cause and walk candidate was there. They did good work. And i believe they did make a difference. It's just unfortunate that it may not last appreciate your time today on on this sensitive subject. Thank you so much. Well thank you mark for giving me the opportunity to say this. And i i do wanna stretch the point to better and so they're listening to me. I'm proud about all in one thing. I'd like to say when i'm with a bunch of veterans whatever ceremonies going on and i'm with veterans. I can feel my son's spirit. He's with all of you. That spirit live jim. Thank you thank you. Jim davis says the father of corporal. Paul davis who died in afghanistan is part of canada's mission there. We reached him in his home. In bridgewater nova scotia. Mosca data gear has been listening in. She's an anti corruption expert and a lecturer in peace and conflict resolution political theory and gender studies at the american university of afghanistan in kabul. Muskogee morning when you live and work in couple. I mentioned how how is life in the capital. Changing as us soldiers leave and the taliban advances. Well let me just say that. I'm hearing from the father. Corporal paul davis was extremely moving. And i think that the efforts of afghans to secure peace right now it is for ghanistan and and it also honors you know being credible sacrifice that young men and women from countries in the west gave so Very grateful that. I got to listen to that very moving so to come to your question. I am a woman. I'm an academic. I'm a lecturer. So events unfolding right now. Have guns do affect my life. Sure But i don't see risks vulnerabilities of the current movement in what lies ahead through the lens of my own life just because i consider myself quite privileged educated i ride. I have a voice and so on the risks. Vulnerabilities say see. I see them through the lens of the most disadvantaged those most at risk in afghanistan so millions upon millions of little girls and young women who have not yet begun. They're ask schooling who have begun. Who risks being discontinued. They are at risk of seeing their lives. their existence diminished. And i think one of the most point ways that i can illustrate the stager to you to conjure up to you the fate of millions of afghan women of the older generations who lived through the nineties adults many of whom had been educated. You know go where doctors engineers scholars architects would have you not nurses and they've spent decades essentially at home within the four walls the home and despite the fact that taliban have not been in power for some twenty years the after effects of those just five years that they were in power from ninety six to two thousand one they were so deep-rooted they were so powerful that public space to this day still is hostile women women going into the labor market women getting educated there are still so many challenges so what risks befalling little girls and young women today is that same fate and worse you know like those were young. During the taliban years many would not be educated or they would only be educated to a very limited degree. And it's really crucial for me to emphasize that this isn't just a personal tragedy. That's going to be playing out. In millions of hearts millions of mines millions of homes. It's a tragedy for afghanistan in holding back half of the population essentially means holding back the country. A country that disempowers. It's women that limits the pursuit of knowledge also for men by the way Of secular education is a country with which and against which anything can be done. But do you see that. Now as an unstoppable force the fact that the taliban have now car now controlling eighty five percent of the country. and that's and that's changing by day. Do you see that. This is an inevitable reality of your life. Now that they will be controlling the country and they will be disempowering. Women like you. So first of all the eighty five percent i would say is disputed. Many have challenged at of challenged the methodology it coated or categorized contested district's as taliban control district district which is categorically untrue. On there too great degree of volatility in battles. Y'all so a lot of the districts that have been One talamante or the past couple of weeks. A proportionate have been re-taken idei security forces india sap so that's just one thing but it is absolutely true that there is an onslaught going on right now. They are judging from their actions. Judging from what they're doing they're very much angering for a military takeover and if that continues you know looking at what. They're actually doing their video circulating right now showing them executing at close range a group of commanders Last month june thing another video. I just saw today shows them killing an elderly man before they'd use of fighter who ventured shoots them simply says he is has are An african minority and then he shoots him as if that as bad as what you know. That is what determined his death sentence. You know i hear. From across the country. there are reports that women are. The girls are being told they can attend school. But not all of documented. Have to say that. But from what is documented including this clip that cnn aired yesterday. It looks like the tax tech's They're employing are indistinguishable from what we saw in the nineties. So yes it's very much. It's very much a deep concern the. Us president biden says that the afghan forces are as well equipped as any army in the world and yet we are hearing about areas falling to the taliban without a shot being fired. Are you concerned about that vulnerability. I mean yes that i think. It's wholesome horton to say that biden. He proclaimed the deadline The withdrawal deadline back in mid april. But it was going to be in september. You know it was. It was very sudden i would say and it may have caught the afghan government slightly by surprise. You know i know. The taliban has been asking for a cease-fire recently on now that they've made territorial gains of proportion of which like i said has been retaken by india now. They're suddenly overtures from their side to reignite a traffic on peace talks with the government and some speculate that it has to do with their capture of border points. Where a lot of money. A lot of goods pass through Where anyone who consolidate power On the ground essentially stands to earn a lot of money right now. They're unable to capture cities and if they consolidate their presence and power over order areas. Which a ceasefire would allow them. Would allow them to do by effectively stopping india steph from retaking territory. Then they could spend the next couple of months next couple of years growing financially and one of the benefits of that would be that be able to point to in a logical pathway of 'cause when it comes to acquiring more sophisticated weaponry as a group as a proxy much more than an insurgency and this is where western experts get it wrong. They definitely are not alone. But there are limits to how overt that support that state level support to them can be from regional countries so then controlling an area that enriches them financially Is something that they can point to win acquiring weapons soon so i mean coming back to your question are the afghan forces vulnerable. I think they are on the battlefield. There actually joined quite well. They're retaking districts but there's also a psychological war happening here the psychological warfare propaganda warfare component of this extremely decisive. They've been you know. The afghan government the republic side has not been doing very well and You know what. I what i've described here is one of the likelier. Battlefield scenarios as c. Firming up that if we move to if we move our eyes to the macro level reality and to what lies ahead for the country. It's really difficult to prognosticate based on the facts that we have right now just just recently. Canada's acting chief of defence staff put out a press release about the fall of july. That's an area where many canadian soldiers had served in the ask. The question which really struck me says many of us. These are canadian soldiers. Many of us have been asking for some years. Was it worth it. How do you answer that question. Absolutely absolutely you know the what has been put into place over the past. twenty years. Is the building blocks of white. One one day could become a just political order. But it's been less than twenty years since that process again so the administrative state and of ghanistan the grid institutions including the army Including our defense forces. They're all still incredibly mason. The they're all young. So that that that newness that mason's is something you need to factor into account when you when you see for instance within the state within the administers administrative state. When you see dysfunction crash and right you need to take into consideration and when you consider that newness that masons and is doing incredibly. Well they are. They are quite impressive. You know their battlefield performance despite of the propaganda being propagated right now are doing quite well and i. It's my hope that that means stream media is going to be able to reflect. Reflect that more almost guy. I appreciate your time today. Thank you so much and please stay safe. Thank you so much. Incur- mosca dusty. Gear is an anti-corruption expert and the lecturer of peace and conflict resolution political theory and gender studies at the american university of afghanistan in kabul for more. Cbc podcasts go to cbc dot ca slash podcasts.

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Operation Silver Shovel | S1 E6

The City

48:41 min | 3 years ago

Operation Silver Shovel | S1 E6

"On the evening of October twenty. First nineteen ninety four. An Illinois state rep named Ray free us paid a visit to John Christopher's southside office the low slung unassuming brick building on west seventy. Fourth street was on a block that dead ended by some train tracks, making it an ideal location for a clandestine meeting. Neither one of us could stay long. He's got an award stew on. The meeting was captured on video and in it you can see Ray free us and John Christopher seated at a wooden table in the middle of a plain looking office with dingy, carpet and beige walls. The table is strewn with papers. There's a mini fridge and a rotating fan. Ray free us. Where's a dark suit and a patterned tie and sits with his hands folded in his lap John Christopher. Whereas a blue polo shirt and lights a cigarette, John Christopher speaks first. I do not be honest with you. I mean, this is all summer weekly from next year weekly prefer. John Christopher has called this meeting because he wants Ray free as his help getting one of his construction companies certified by the state and an exchange Christopher is willing to pay free us a consulting fee. She told me, I mean, what's worth you? I don't know. I mean, I can't one. What do you believe you could do to believe you could help me. What you're hearing is tape of John Christopher, trying to bribe a Chicago politician. Eventually they agree that five hundred dollars a week is a fair price for this exchange. Seal we start. Okay. And to give me a privates that has an efficient s as simple as that. Great. That's great. Okay. That's a consultant. Get in previous episodes. We've had actors dramatize John Christopher's time in court because all we had were transcripts, but this is actually John Christopher. This tape is real. This recording is one of more than a thousand audio and video tapes. John Christopher made in secret while he was working undercover for the FBI. And it's one of nine tapes that we got by suing the FBI earlier this year, it took us almost three years to get these tapes. And even though we only got nine, they provide a front row seat to how John Christopher operated as the FBI's prize informants back and John Christopher's office. He and Ray Frias had settled on five hundred dollars a week for this consulting fee. But then free gets nervous. I will stood up. Mobile right now also, I mean, this is. I mean, any kind of rain like this war over as alleged so too. To movie. Thank you. Alexis. That's why they want him out. Could can make moving Zico politicians when they don't think one. You just got to find the right roof as free as starts to come around. John Christopher pushes harder to seal the deal. The only reason why you're seeing here because you are seeing what's. Okay, because it can make one. The other one is for Zo. So if you feel uncomfortable, what are we clean? I said, the white way to you all. Thunder salt wrong with you because there's no politicians role that I know that go give me this on give you that. You give me this and I'll give you that. It's the transactional nature of Chicago politics. I give you a dollar. You vote for my candidate. You vote for my candidate. I give you a job as we previously learned from the story of north London, alderman Bill, Henry, it's the Chicago way. But in this case it's not business as usual. It's what the f. b. I would call a quid pro quo. That's this for that in Latin and it's a legal, you help my company get certified, and I'll give you five hundred dollars a week quid pro quo. After the FBI had busted John Christopher for Bank fraud for falsifying his loan applications and walking away with millions of dollars, he'd used to build up his businesses, the FBI flipped him convinced him to wear a wire and put him in the center of new investigation. So wearing a wire and acting on the FBI's behalf. John Christopher went looking for dirty politicians. He found many who were willing to conspire and some who are less. So almost all of his targets were black or Latino and came from segregated neighborhoods that industry had left the FBI called this new undercover investigation operation, silver shovel silver, like the forty pieces of silver Judah, Scott for betraying Jesus and shovel like the bulldozers at John Christopher's dumps the investigation was intended to tackle public. Corruption and would become one of the biggest corruption probes and Chicago history. But as it unfolded operation, silver shovel seemed to replicate the harm. John Christopher had caused in north Lonsdale and became a grab bag for anything. The f. b. FBI thought John Christopher could help them do. I'm Robin Aamer and from USA today, this is the city. If you like the city, you may like another show from USA today. 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By vox you can find the show on apple podcasts or ever you're listening. Okay. Back to the story. In July nineteen Ninety-two FBI special agent, Jim Davis was put in charge of operation silver, shovel and assigned to be John Christopher's handler, he cents that this was going to be a big case. We told headquarters about, you know, the people that he had been paying recently who we thought he could pay in the near future. After John Christopher crossed over and started working for the FBI. He told the bureau about his bribes to former north Lonsdale alderman Bill Henry, you'll remember he was the Wheeler dealer who had reportedly given John Christopher permission to set up his rock-crushing operation in exchange for five thousand dollars a month. But the f. b. i. couldn't start with Bill Henry. And Jim Davis is kind of flippant about why I think he was dead before our k started. Otherwise, we'd have paid him instead. They started. With other officials. John Christopher claimed to be bribing. There was an alderman named Virgil Jones. A former cop in the mostly black fifteenth ward Virgil Jones had also given John Christopher permission to dump in his ward and exchange for a bribe ten dollars a load. Then there were high level officials from Chicago's water treatment agency. John was in the middle of a relationship to pay those guys for subcontracting work on a construction project that was going on, you know, at that time, but Jim Davis and his fellow FBI agents suspected that with an informant like John Christopher, they could find even more city officials to bribe ones. John Christopher had yet to meet the FBI needed to catch them misusing the power of their office to help John Christopher in exchange for money. They needed to establish a quid pro quo, and they had to get it on tape. John Christopher had a ton of credibility with other criminals. But Jim day. Davis knew that he would have zero credibility with a jury. John Christopher had an extensive criminal history Bank fraud trying to murder federal witness, and the f. b. I didn't want to risk putting him on the stand with the defense could play up his laundry list of past crimes. So every time John Christopher went out, Jim Davis wired him up to record his conversations. Technology for recording conversations was changing very quickly at that time. So we started out with a thing called in Nagara in a g. r. a. which was pretty good size like scary, big, real trail tape machine. It was a real real tape machine. Wow, so hiding that was difficult though. Jim Davis wouldn't tell me exactly where he hit the device. Don't want to go into that in understand why, right? I'm not trying. I'm not trying to be evasive or secretive or anything, but you know, I just don't want people. Dialed in art techniques. You wanna protect future investigations by protecting that information as they started to select their new targets. They came up with a plan that was supposed to meet specific legal requirements. We couldn't just kinda throw out net and in gather up these guys, we had to make sure that we had some Predication that they were involved in criminal activities. Predication means that there had to be some evidence that the person they were going after was already doing something illegal and thus might be willing to do more illegal stuff. Oftentimes that establish that through the politicians network. One alderman would introduce us to another to another to another. John Christopher may have disappeared from north Lonsdale, but you could find him dining with elected officials all over town. You could find John Christopher at the I hop at ninety four th in western, he'd be sitting across from alderman Virgil Jones who had given him permission to dump construction debris on the south side. The f. b. i. listened in as John Christopher gave Jones four thousand dollars wrapped in a newspaper. You could find John Christopher at Theodore's on ninety. Fifth street there he asked another southside alderman to send a city street sweeper to clean up the mess. He'd made a job site offered that alderman more than five thousand dollars in cash. And you could find John Christopher at Jack's a fancy English restaurant. Overlooking the magnificent mile shopping corridor there he gave a water Commissioner cigarette pack filled with forty rolled one hundred dollar bills. To aid this growing investigation, the f. b. i. brought in an undercover agent to act as John Christopher's business partner. Mark Sophia was a veteran f. b. i. agent from Chicago who was also Italian. Although he was more clean cut and well-spoken than John Christopher. The bureau thought that he could play a convincing mobbed up construction guy. He was often in the field with John Christopher when he bribed public officials during the investigation marks feel went by an alias Mark Delana. We wanted him to be Italian. I mean, marks Afia is Italian, but I haven't picking name that basically ends in all in. I didn't realize it until we had been in this for a while and I should. So where did you get to long ago to Lanka is not an Italian name. Mark was a West Point grid, and a ranger army ranger in the third phase of ranger training is based in. Delana Georgia and like his fake business partner. Mark Delana was also all over town meeting with a state rep at a diner near midway airport, where handed over the five hundred dollars. John Christopher had promised or hunkering down in an undercover apartment in suburban oakbrook terrace, where he'd sometimes pay bribes in his bathrobe and count out money on the coffee table. Shaved about to grad based on two leaks, so sure that would be one gram. So they're in this video recording Mark. Sofia as Mark Dhillon aga- is paying a southside alderman for helping John Christopher, clean up a parking lot repaving job. Or short, it's a little hard to hear, but that's Mark Sofia actually counting out money to give to the alderman. Okay, sir. The f. b. i. cast a wide net between the two of them. John Christopher and Mark Sofia eventually tried to woo and then bribe at least forty people. There were so many targets and each had his or her own story. But let's drill down into one of these officials to better understand how the investigation played out in practice and what it felt like to be caught in John Christopher's web. That's after the break. Do you wear clothes that don't fit? Are you listening to a podcast you hate probably not. You taken control of the rest of your life. It's time to take control of your sleep. Helixsleep Bill to quiz takes just two minutes to complete the use the answers to match your body type and sleep preferences to the perfect mattress. I was matched to the helix dusk. 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Giles and his wife police live in a tidy, split level ranch house on a quiet tree lined street in Chicago's south suburbs, very different from where he grew up in rural Arkansas. He was one of ten children and the son of a sharecropper. The family's home didn't have indoor plumbing until after he was ten years old Giles went on to study at the university of Arkansas. And then like so many other black Chicagoans. He left the south as part of the great migration and made his way to the west side. Giles would become part of a wave of young black politicians who came up under the city's first black mayor Harold Washington in nineteen six. When he was in his mid thirties, Giles was elected to city council. Even today, if you ask Percy Giles what accomplishment he's most proud of from his time in office, he'll tell you it was getting garbage out of his ward familiar with the west side. Chicago always got. Reputation of being not clean and and everybody looked down at the rest of the on the west side. But what determined right away is that the west, I wasn't treated fair. Percy Giles is ward the thirty seventh was and still is similar to north Llandough majority black, not a lot of clout with city hall and chronically underserved by the city. The same set of factors that had prompted north Lonsdale alderman Bill Henry to buy his own street sweeper. Percy Giles was first elected. The city had insisted the ten west side wards including his all, send their household garbage to a local incinerator. So the alleyways in his word became clogged with bulkier items, like couches or TV's that couldn't go to the incinerator and they let this other stuff. Just people put it out there to sit at just so the Senate claim that they were sent a bulk up there to pick it up later, but they've they didn't do that. Eventually Percy Giles convinced the city to let him send the words trash to another site and that got the garbage problem under control. If I have to say the one thing I did as alderman, that was the most significant thing I would say that would be it that changed the fiber of the west side. And yet Percy Giles was eventually taken down by an undercover investigation that started with a mountain of waste. By January nineteen. Ninety-five Percy Giles had already served to successful terms as alderman and was running for a third place to be. Look for ways to raise phones. Trials got a call from political consultant. He'd hired the consultant told him that he'd scheduled a lunch with possible donor named John Christopher. I got this. John Christopher. They said, you know, he can. He raise some money. A few days later Percy Giles and his political consultant meet with John Christopher for lunch at a west side, soul, food restaurant called edna's edna's advertised the best biscuits on earth and had a back room where VIP's could meet in private. The people. Here. What I should Percy Giles ordering the short ribs. He's really hard to hear in the tape because the tape recorder is across the table from him hidden somewhere on John Christopher's body. So when all of these recordings, John Christopher is much easier to hear. Hot dog that was Burke was polish sausage. Give me a hot one. On your guys neighbor, all. Go onto the Ryan. On just on the point John Christopher and Percy Giles finish ordering and start making small talk Giles asks how he's been doing and John Christopher lifts up his shirt. Allusion away from gaining weight what I'm doing. Go stay out of trouble while you know she'll want my wife or gain weight when I'm away from I lose weight. Hugh lift up his shirt. He grabs his belly and shakes it up and down FBI agent. Jim Davis would later tell me that when John Christopher did this lift up his shirt. It was his way of signalling to Percy Giles or anyone else around that. He was not wearing a wire though. Of course, the only reason we're hearing this is because he was. And as they're making small, talk talking about the upcoming mayoral election and who's ahead in polls, that kind of thing. John Christopher brings up his dumps in north London. Good news, dumping business. I don't do that little more. I don't wanna do it says to Christopher your known all over the city. In other words, you're infamous leave with head of my neetings with Henderson. Translation Percy Giles was heard about John Christopher and his construction. Debris dumps from Henry Henderson Commissioner of the city's department of environment and now for the first and maybe only time here is John Christopher on tape defending his actions in north Lauderdale. All of this fucking table. Table. I made a lot of money over Balza both saying they made a lot of money. You wanna know tensions want to hurt nobody. There created job Stor. Percy Giles seems sympathetic to John. Christopher Giles explains that he had been meeting with Henry Henderson because he's now facing a situation similar to the one in north Lonsdale he had thrown his support behind a company called Niagara that had promised to bring eighty jobs to his ward. Niagara then set up a construction, debris dump next to a beauty supply factory, the dirt and debris were now piled so high that runoff from the dump had flooded the factories parking lot Percy Giles was now taking heat from the factories owners and the city, and the press including a reporter from the sun times. Kim, you'd be. Playing to what it was she. And his political challenger in the upcoming election had also started using the dumps against him, putting up flyers around the ward that said, the dump was talk. Opponents shit bit. They can't do that them now of nothing. One on one. Plus they already put it out on in the community about tactic, mini minds and the toxic dump John Christopher offers Percy. Giles some words of wisdom are just gonna give picture right. Watch the heights of it will aunt you watch the heights of it. In other words, be careful how big the dump GATS especially when you're running for reelection under skewing. I feel that if you're going to be with somebody can Molly information, you could help them out later. And I was the first one basically that started all the dumps. You know the first. Question. So listen. Percy Giles. Let me save this with you. Okay. Give a Mason deal. The all get your running form. Okay. I want to months of court room battles. What sitting fro-. I started the can't want city. That could want you for years to come. You know this, Jesse won the election just lower Moshe. And you is a couple of people call up and saying that they got those problems. Jesse Miller who won Bill Henry seed after the former alderman supported John Christopher and the Northland l. dumb. Again, this is a warning learn from what happened in north Lauderdale for me. Would you take. In John Christopher's advice may have been offered one businessman to another, but he's here to do another kind of business. And all this small talk is probably just to establish trust because once they've built that report, Jon Christopher goes into dealmaking mode. I, he tells Percy Giles that he has a new construction company. We'll keep real small. John Christopher explains that on paper. His new construction company is run by a guy from north Lauderdale actually the same guy that he'd hired to do community relations in the neighborhood back when he was fighting the city's lawsuit. And because this guy is black and fronting as the official head of the company that makes them eligible for contracts set aside for minority owned businesses are not a while when he calls for the job. Anyone, anyone, if my name is much and pulls that radical stuff and says, what is this shit because of problems. Comes now, you know, I mean, he really fights. That's all very good tape. We wanted during these guys up. That's Jim Davis. John Christopher's f. b. i. handler, he was one of the first people to hear this tape after it was recorded this white Italian guy talking to a black elected official in saying a were taken advantage of the NBC certification. E stands for minority business enterprise. You know, by saying that we are a minority run business when in fact, look at me in to have those conversations in front of the alderman in have the alderman not say, hey, you know, you can't do that that paints the alderman in a certain light. After explaining that, he's basically set up a front company. John Christopher makes his pitch. He wants a contract for shopping center being built in Percy Giles ward. I won't where they work with number. You wanna say, I wanna the all in exchange for this help. John Christopher offers Percy Giles ten thousand dollars. What's going to happen basically. Effort to be given. Okay. Commitment of trying to get some workers that what we're saying here. And. Would you get the pain of the. Have somebody. I can't guaranteed. Nothing hundred can do all we can provide anything in a way that we can be assistant you. That's my call. Drought can to help. It's new. That's all that's needed. But John Christopher actually needed to get the payment on tape. So a few days after that first lunch, John Christopher and Percy Giles meet at edna's again. And this time John Christopher brings the money with him the first of two payments of five thousand dollars each. Now, what follows is really hard to hear because even John Christopher is speaking in hushed voice. He says to Percy Giles, here's the five thousand, it's all there. And then he asked Percy Giles if you want to count it. I can't believe you won't. If you've ever ripping put in your pocket. By John saying, please hurry up. Put that in your pocket. It dirties up more. You know you saying, you know, let's not make a big spectacle even though he is gonna make a big spectacle. Giles sounds giddy as he takes the cash. Member should move. This fucking. To be I agent, Jim Davis. This is a slam dunk. They have a sitting alderman on tape taking money from their informant, but that's not how Percy Gile side Giles admits taking the money, but swears that he believed it was a campaign contribution. It's why when he takes the money, he says, I'll win the election in African American minutest. It's difficult for us to raise money for elections, and that was like the best fundraising that I had and really did help me by material of real wood to ten thousand dollars mean to your campaign efforts at the time a lot. That was about a third of my campaign dollars. So this is a really big deal for you because you're running for re-election. You have a meeting with this guy that you think is a local businessman and he's affectively just given you in like to face to face meetings, a third of the money that you raise so far very election campaign that Nelson blessing Percy Giles says, he's still wilder as to why the f. b. i. chose him as a target. He argues that the f. b. i. turned an otherwise loyal public servant into a figure of corruption. The Cincinnati to meet the Mana fact a crime that they say that pro, whatever Lille put poll banana factor that the say, oh, we got him. He committed a crime. I wasn't doing anything to anybody, but taking my business, I would say that's fair. I make to me, you can do that with anybody. Now, granted him, some people smarter than me. They mo- politica stoop than me. They around families that who have been having business, they know how people are, but I came from a background. Nobody told me into this. I came from Arkansas, just Arkansas. The hospitality state we speak to everybody in Arkansas people. They pretty much say what they mean and they mean what they say, and that's that's where I come from. And so that was just shocked to me. Giles was eventually indicted and convicted, not just for taking ten thousand dollars in bribes from John Christopher, but also for taking eighty one thousand dollars in bribes from Niagara the company that set up the dump in his word when he talks about it. Now he says the money was for the ward and Niagara told him it would bring jobs Percy Giles would not be the last person to critique operation silver shovel or the last alderman to get caught up in the investigation in ways that mirrored John Christopher's time in Northland, Dale, that's after the break. Sometimes the smallest thing can make a big difference. Take your socks. For example, they might not seem like the most important thing in the world, but think for a moment about the last time you were a pair of socks that just weren't cutting it. An uncomfortable pair of socks can affect your whole day. That's why I love Bumba socks. They are truly the most quality made most comfortable socks I've ever worn one of my favorite things about Bomba is that just as they're making a difference in my day, I know they're making a difference in someone else's. See socks are the number one requested item in homeless shelters across the US. 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So we would have conversation where it was very clear that they wanted money from us and that they would do whatever we ask them to do. We just couldn't figure out what what it was that we could ask them to do that wouldn't create, you know, uncontrollable, third party liability. Third party liability means harm to anyone who is not a target of the investigation. For example, if they got a city contract, it meant that another legitimate business would not get that contract in some of the the rock crusher scenarios that we ran as part of this investigation. If we set up a rock crusher. In a neighborhood there was impact on the people around where the pressure was place. Some of the rock crusher scenarios, the FBI sent John Christopher to other aldermen to ask if he could set up other rock Crushers in other wards almost always majority black or Latino wards. But Jim Davis is careful to say that because of concerns about third party liability. The bureau never actually set up any rock Crushers anywhere. We never placed actually placed the rock crusher anywhere. Instead, Jim Davis says they would bring politicians to another rock crusher. John Christopher had this one also predated operation silver shovel and was out in Lamont in the western suburbs. Jim Davis called it a half million dollar prob. In other words, an expensive piece of equipment that was meant to be seen, but not used to the grocery opera. Out Lamont in, we would take alderman out to Lamont to see the crusher, right? So they could go out and see the thing in operation. And then once the alderman had seen the rock crusher, we identify a lot in their ward and say, this is where we wanna put it. We would get their support, pay them for their support, and then we'd never put the crusher there in practice. This was extremely confusing for the alderman. Here's what it looked like to Larry bloom, who is then alderman of the fifth ward. He told me that he needed some overflow space because the space that to which he was bringing the cement debris was he needed more space. And would I help them find such a space bloom was the only white politician caught up in the probe. He was known as an independent and a reformer. His southside ward concluded the integrated Hyde Park neighborhood home to the university of Chicago and the Obamas the word all. Also included a majority black neighborhood called grand crossing that had land zoned for industry. Larry bloom says, he, I met John Christopher a decade before when John Christopher was a client of fellow lawyer and his practice, they reconnected in the mid nineties when they ran into each other at the standard club, a fancy downtown members only club where bloom was meeting potential campaign donor. And I think I was putting my coat down and I see across the room, this big smile. Agai eyes get wide open and sees me and comes running over to me and says, how you doing Larry, it was John Christopher and later in his usual push way, he asked Larry bloom to find him a place to set up a rock crusher. So I actually did that and actually drove around. And I found a location that was in the new portion of my ward had known about which was separated. From the rest of the neighborhood by going underneath a tunnel, and then you went to this open area and it was basically a construction related company that used it for storing its vehicles. John Christopher paid, Larry bloom two thousand dollars for his help and after securing the site and supposedly setting up shop there, he came back to alderman bloom, and he said, Larry, I think I missing up the alley when I'm bringing this debris over to the site. Can you have the wards who pretend go out there and clean it up and after the wards Uber intendant checked out the site, he told bloom there's nothing there. No darts, no debris, no rock crusher. And yet John Christopher calls again and again asks Larry bloom to clean up the site, and he is really pushy. So Larry bloom goes and looks at it for himself. There was nothing they only and I think I looked into the yard and. I didn't see any debris in the industrial itself and see any of the stuff that he said he was bringing in this story basically confirms what Jim Davis told us that they never put a rock crusher anywhere, but from what we can tell from our reporting, that's not quite true. During his time as an FBI informant. John Christopher kept dumping at at least two sites, including the ones in north Lonsdale. He also set up at least one rock crusher in a place where there had not been won before John Christopher had been dumping in the fifteenth ward before he was recruited by the FBI. He had help from the alderman. We mentioned earlier, Virgil Jones, the former cop who took four thousand dollars wrapped in newspaper photos of that dump show something similar to what existed in Northland l. an enormous pile of concrete slabs stacked. What looks like two stories high according to court records. John Christopher kept dumping there after he became an FBI informant and in August nineteen Ninety-two one month after operation, silver shovel officially began. He put a rock crusher at the site, an operated it for at least a few months. After we learned about this rock crusher we went back to Jim Davis to ask if he'd been mistaken when he said they'd never actually put any rock rushers anywhere. He reiterated that as far as he could remember, they never had, but he did know about this one at least at one point. During Virgil, Jones's trial, Jim Davis testified under oath that he had gone to visit the site in the fall of nineteen ninety two and saw the crusher and operation. So it's not completely clear, but it seems as if John Christopher initially set up this rock crusher behind the FBI's back in a previous interview, Jim Davis told me that John Christopher would often do this kind of thing behind his back. Couple of times were I went down to to John's office which was down in the I think it was in the seventy six in western areas somewhere down there and walk around his yard. And I'd see some files a dirt building up, right? And I would tell him get rid of those. So that's what he has a tendency to do in. We had to go out there every once in a while, tell him you can't do that. You got to get this dirt your your lot. But that didn't mean the FBI didn't use the rock crusher to its advance. Edge. The payments may diverge Jones for helping with his operation were part of the FBI's case against him. We reached out to virtual Jones, but he never responded at this point. We should take stock of all the politicians targeted by operation silver, shovel Percy, Giles who's black fertile Jones, who's black Ray free s. Latino Jesse Evans black Allan. Streeter black. In fact, every public official indicted during operation. Silver shovel was black or Latino with the exception of Larry bloom who is white and Jewish. Jim Davis says, this disparity bothered him even at the time we were looking for opportunities to to try and branch out racially. But the issue was we could only go where the case took us. We could only go where our subjects were willing to introduces. You know, we, I remember one point having conversations about, you know, is there any way that we could get John say to Allan Streeter? Do you know any white politicians? We can pay? You know. We, we didn't do that just because it would have been ridiculous to do it. You know? I mean, it's not something it's not. It would not have been a conversation that I think would have worked in the enter cover scenario like then the question is will why would you ask me that? Like that's kind of a weird thing for you to ask me, right? That's the concern exactly. We went were the case took us. He says that the path the investigation talk is just evidence of the city's longstanding racial divides. The reality of Chicago is that black politicians Nobu politicians work with black politicians in the white politicians work with the white politicians. I've frankly think that you Kogyo is one of the most segregated cities in the country. You're not alone there. And I think that that's why this case seemed focused on black politicians. That segregation was driving. Actor here makes sense. It's the scaffolding on which you can hang almost every other fact about Chicago. The neighborhoods were John Christopher setup. His dumps and rock Crushers neighborhoods like north Lonsdale were black neighborhoods, but they were also neighborhoods that had gradually seen industry leave. They had a lot of vacant land and the land was not redeveloped quickly because it was not as valuable as land in wealthier white neighborhoods where developers were more interested in building, which meant that when John Christopher was looking around for places he could convincingly put a dump or rock crusher even fake one. He was almost certainly going to be looking in south and west side wards were land was cheap and plentiful, and set up for industry. There just aren't nearly as many undeveloped lots on the north side. So it wasn't just that there weren't any white politicians other than Larry bloom caught up in silver shovel. There weren't any north siders, either. There's one other dimension to this story. We have to talk about as operation silver shovel, broaden it got weirder. Apart from bribes for city contracts and rock Crushers. Silver shovel became a kind of kitchen sink for everything. The FBI thought John Christopher might be able to pull off that included fake legislation about cemeteries aimed to lure lawmakers at the state capital and a scheme that involved green card and the Royal Canadian Mounted police and a drug deal involving two pounds of cocaine and a money laundering operation for the mob. None of it had anything to do with north Lonsdale. The only things these parts of the investigation had in common was John Christopher just point. John is in a little bit of a state of denial. He wants for this investigation to go on forever because he, he knows when it's over. He's going to have to leave. He's going to have to tell his family that he was cooperating with the government. Eventually, this case would go public and John Christopher's targets would have their day in court, and then the FBI would have to contend with the reality of who John Christopher was and all the things done. I asked, Jim Davis, hell the bureau justified working with a man like John Christopher, and he told me something that he'd once heard a lawyer, say in court, something that had stuck with him. Sometimes if you're going to prosecute the devil, he got to go to hell to get your witnesses in January nineteen, Ninety-six operation. Silver shovel would break as front page news, Ray free us, the politician we heard at the beginning of this episode would be acquitted, but Virgil Jones and Percy Giles Alan, Streeter and Larry bloom a dozen. Other politicians were about to go down. That's next time on the city. 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12 Bizarre Mike Pence Stories Nobody Ever Brings Up

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12 Bizarre Mike Pence Stories Nobody Ever Brings Up

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I'm also known as Schmidt Clam also known as Schmidt e that champ and I am also also glad that Mike Pence was unable to build a state media operation that comes from his time as governor of Indiana Anna Great State out in the Midwest there and Mike Pence was elected governor in twenty twelve he was only elected one time also not a lot of people know he was not that popular in Indiana ever when he was elected in two thousand twelve he only one by three points and in that same mm-hmm Election Mitt Romney beat Barack Obama by ten points as so Mike was really really lucky to be an estate like Indiana that was so pro Republican because they were not all that Pro Mike Pence from their Pensa in his one term he decided in twenty fifteen eighteen that the state government of Indiana should build a news service that was called just in and it looks like the name Justin you know but with a capital I am like the postal abbreviation for Indiana and also looks like you're saying just tin or or like you're just angry mom yelling at downstairs but this just in service the idea was you know we have this outmoded system where reporters come to the state capital of Indiana and try to figure out what's going on by asking people questions as you know Yeesh what a lot of work and so what Justin would do as it would just give pre written statements and even entire stories to the press from the state government right so then the state government can just right the news news for the press and it's a lot smoother. You know a lot chiller. There's a lot less labor involved except for the Labor where your tax dollars are paying for state media and so Mike Pence tried to do that and then when the existing regular media eighty I found out and talked about it. The Indiana state government pivoted back and said that actually they were just talking about updating the official calendar other website which is a little bit different and that's a story you've probably never heard even even if you live in in Indiana which is one of the core things of Mike Pence identity the state of Indiana <hes> you might know that they're the rest of the country has no idea about that and then within about a year of this attempt to build what the media joked about as Pravda on the planes the state of Indiana state media within a year of trying to do that. Mike Pence was made the Republican nominee for vice president is sort of amazing that can just happen and it's because we don't focus enough on these extremely weird stories so that's what we're talking about today bizarre stories about that number two person in the number one country America. You may know the very first stories. We'll talk about today because we we address them as such. There are a few weird Mike Pence thanks people know but there's so much more four and I'm really excited for us to share it with especially because we had the perfect guest to do it. We are joined by new guests Brody Gupta who is an amazing comedy writer. If you've seen the show speechless on A._B._C. or friends from college on Net flicks or some other shows you've I've seen her writing. They're also on Sweeney's and in the New Yorker and a lot of political stuff there in particular so she's really on top of exactly what's funniest about these people who are running the country and then we are joined by Andrew t was a fantastic comedy writer writer and a fantastic podcast over at Yo is this racist and he and Tony Newsom show. It's just great I talk about a lot and it's also both funny and direct about exactly what's going on in the country these days it maintains both of those things at the same same time and he does that here today on the show too so I'm I'm thrilled about that. I'm so glad the three of US could get together too bad around stories about the extremely bizarre uncanny vice president that we currently have who <hes> <hes>. I think you'll find has a very polite sleek demeanor especially if you saw him in the vice presidential debate in two thousand sixteen that's probably the most visible he's ever been other than this time. He was at the human rights crime on the border but when he was in that debate he was very very measured measured. All of the time you know anytime somebody would be critical of of something that Mike Pence said for he'd be very measured in his in his disapproval of their disapproval at the same time he is hardcore weird and we're going to get all into it today so please sit back back or sit in the federal building where you and your fellow low level capital staffers a have to track all media about your boss. The vice president ain't just sit there learning about it. I don't know that that job exists. I just figure somebody does that and if they're doing it I I. They deserve to be cared about so hang in there because that's a that's a tough gig. I hope he gets a move up into anything else. That'd be great either way. Here's this fun episode of the cracks podcast with Brody Gupta and Andruzzi. I'll be back after we wrap up talk either. It's been really strange like the last few years learning things gradually about Mike Pence and I just I just think about it and I tell no one I feel like as someone who like I thought paid a lot attention to a right wing lunatics. He really snuck up on me. I feel like yeah he's kind of like a quiet maniac. I don't mean to kind of hit the low hanging fruit but he does look exactly like the villain in the animated hunchback of Notre Don. Oh Wow he looks exactly like Frolo. Who by the way is not horrible looking but definitely is the villain yes I now? I want pence with that hair. That hat looked like it. Yeah I did. Rollo is his name right. I think it's FROLO. I don't know I mean that's that's on me for Ho L.. L. Pulled this mental image of immediate a right. I am barreling through my instagram right now and again this is so this is a visual medium so this'll be really great for everyone right. The food notes will have a bunch of pictures of check another dumb when we we have so many Mike Pence stories here and that very naturally leads into one of the ones that maybe some people know is that it was very angry about Milan upon its release in one thousand nine hundred. This one's an interesting one. I think because like a you can tell who's on twitter too much by how whether they know this. It's very very like bifurcated like yes where the knowledge bases only got it there yeah right like you knew because people are on twitter like Holy Fuck. This was an insane thing to do. I guess the backstory of this is that part of Mike Pences is like gradual quiet rice power was he was like an A._M.. Radio Dude Yeah right yeah okay so he was like the raft of Conservative A._M.. Radio dudes like rush limbaugh being the king of them. I guess like Pre Youtube Pre Internet popularity. This is where like we're like. Racist used to get their news A._M.. Radio with either almost five digits or like low six hundred on ah the frequencies you could be really racist at really get into it. Birds can hear Oh my God but yeah the Mike Pence show yeah like a brief brief strokes Evatt he failed and runs for the U._S.. House of Representatives in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine hundred ninety and so then in nineteen ninety-two instead of trying again he started the Mike Pence show yeah which I guess makes sense. It's like that's like the water you start a blog in the early to thousands of right wing people in the nineties. Just get a right with me radio. Show just the titled the Mike Pence. Show really sounds like that's as sort of offshoot of S._N._l.. Sketch comedy show we we've already. We've already put plugged one image the his header image from it's so funny does look like Dana Carvey character also oh that's a side by side. It's a side by side had so just look at a wealth of the cracks slide show. I Guess Keep Your Eyes Open right like they can't see the pictures that really loud clicker from people really do love the foot. It's lobby there. Well okay so this is the facts of this. Our movie comes out Disney's move-on. I'd have actually seen it but I know the legend which is more or less like Joan of arc for Chinese people young girl girl chops off her hair and it's like I'm in the army. Now Joan of ARC is not too far off basically archetype right how how so brave is a woman's. Lee wouldn't expect a woman a minute. Do this goes to show that. Every woman is just a great haircut away war woman army but if I if I remember right from the montage she does it with a source yes she the sword and it's very cool. I will say that it's very cool that she does it with the sword so so Mike Pence goes and sees this film where a woman doesn't even see it. I'm going to say this is going to be. Here's me reaching for the wildest possible. Take take on this which is that he was in the right wing hot. Take Economy at the time yeah so whatever he had to do is he his his like daily bread was how can I be sexist about this thing or racist or homophobic the focus right so I guess props to him for not taking the Racist Angle about the movie moonlight and basically was like see this movie is propaganda for why women should be able to serve in the armed forces shame on the if he were in on fortune today he would say same shame on the social justice warriors and then he goes on in his blog post to kind of right about how in the modern day like we can see how badly it goes us when women and men yeah Tailhook had just happened. I think so tailhook was basically a bunch of navy. People sexually harassing women in the Navy also navy men such harassing women very common. It's like a thing sexual assault in. I'm not a huge fucking ongoing problem right yeah. It is a bit of a spicy take for Mike Pence to blame the women for the military on this one or for people allowing women to his he'd boils down to the right wing version of the thesis which is like Minner Moaner attracted a women's. Who would you expect is going to happen like all of the soldiers have been put in terrible situation by Democrat yeah? It's it's ultimately the rulemakers yeah of course like a real right wing thing to purposely allied aid sexual relationships and sexual assaults. That seems like a big part of right because it's like his examples are all like Oh. What do you expect what's going to happen? Men are tracking to women and it's like well okay. You're not punishing men who assault women men and that's different than men sleeping with women in the military and I feel like a lot of right wing ship rests on purposely conflicting those two things like the boys will be boys again for whatever reason send me trying to exonerate Mike Pence I would imagine his peers at the time had equally wild takes about any given piece of pop culture and probably he himself had as fucking lunatic right wing takes on any any other. It's funny that like the specifically Mike Pence hates Moulin has like reverberated through history now because he's remained important but it just so specific but like I'm sure he said all kinds of Oh you know any given thing he said the absolute worst possible thing you can think of and he's a shock jock right. Is that what that is because he he was sort of like like he's still is like mild sauce shock Jock yeah. He's always like throughout his life. As far as I can tell there's this undercurrent of constantly being outrageously conservative and branding as polite yeah he he explicitly told people at the time that he was quote rush limbaugh on decaf wishes still real bad. I I was GonNa say I'm just pitch an old forum which is he's like Ned Flanders but a neo Nazi no love all of Hitler's language but I I love the idea's really it's just that agenda of like him like grasping at any culture war straws and that's how those guys you know. They're fake outrage snowflakes. Oh flakes fuck them yeah. If you folks listening to see it. We'll have an article. That's called six totally W._p._f.. Mike Pence stories nobody ever brings up as a cable and it has a screen shot of the entire Mike Pence show blog post from nineteen ninety eight <hes> in it. He says things like obviously Disney is excited about in setting into the young generation that women should be in the military at and there's a lot of a lot of wild Clinton's like you say that that might have been just kind of the the the scene humans in at this time yeah and also he was a thirty nine year old person when he was saying that Alana's terrifying horrible thing he's thirty nine and Holy Fuck. You looks a decade older. Older than me in this picture right now I will say I read this Atlantic article about him is a guys plan for Mike Pence and they're like several pictures of him when he was in college and look our boys got a case old face it does not look happy. He does not look youthful. He's just hates going to age age you even in college. He looked like an old friend automated. Whatever whatever for a Louis exactly exactly did yeah maybe looking? Maybe we look at other radio takes before we leave. That brody picks out one. That's it's in that Atlantic article. Yeah I love it so much because it's truly such a nothing argument which is that in the mid nineties in Indiana. There was just a for lack of a better way to say this shortage of otter very few autres around and so there was you know conservation effort to bring in more offers which is always good for an ecosystem is to bring in parts of the ecosystem go system and Mike Pence was really against it. He said that it was like a terrifying example of the big government run amok but my personal favorite part of it is that he like very ominously says at the end he's like Buffalo's next and that's very funny because like there's something in his brain that was like if we start with small animals they will get bigger the government bringing them all to Indiana and I will have to take care of them or run over by them. There's just this very funny sort of like abject misery that he has with just just like that. I think is very funny and also just this being example of big. Government is very funny to me. I don't know the whole thing is great. He's like against he's against just like famously cute animals the autre back and Bison her great. I WANNA go out on a limb on the mine of a right wing person and I think that sort of like a if if you bring back the vice and then we all have to admit we stole this land white people oh I will say that that's a thoughtful take that is much more generous all right well I in my mind. He's afraid of big gambles and that's what's really going on here. He's just trying to figure out a way to keep Buffalo's away from him. You have to imagine when animals are near him. They're just like going buck wild absolutely do like like this theory like they just Know Otter. It's PAS clearly the guys you WanNa loved of. Death was actually very he specifically called them state-sanctioned sanitized otters which is like a really really afraid. Take on like you save brody springing parts of the ecosystem back rate used to be is is okay. I think it's also very funny that there is this sort of implication that all of the Democrats yeah. They let anybody vote now. I'm thinking back to Andrew Andrew. Instead of this radio show was what he did instead of a blogger twitter even though it had a block yeah we we just have records of his worst dumbest most incendiary stuff in a way that we kinda don't for a lot of nineties politicians. It wasn't really thing thing and another one here is there's also take Mike Pence Santana's radio show where he said the tobacco science is Kinda outrageous into does not like bad bad yeah like pretty recently. He said this right well. He said it in two thousand yes he was. He was on the way out of the radio. Show he dropped it right around them to start running congress again but yes that and then ran out of the studio Tobago's good for uh-huh and then just we see a Mike helps your lungs bree. I want to quote because it's really fun quote time for a quick reality check despite the hysteria from the political class and the media smoking doesn't kill in fact two out of every three smokers do not die from a smoking related illness and nine out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer yeah and quote and then he couched it in some stuff of like obviously smoking doesn't have vitamins or anything tape but otherwise it's he was like come on. Let's not regulate the heck out of smoking big government breath out of his cigar just like pulls. No Smoking doesn't make diet makes you live. How shitty of like this is how dumb he knows his audiences because like like if you can fool people with that type of statistic was it to out of three smokers don't and count account don't have related health issues? It's two out of three don't die from a sodium related illness. What if you said one third of smokers die related illness raising? It is crazy crazy that people are so fucking stupid they could be swayed by two-thirds dive related illness. One out of two people are fine. It's just like you know he knows yeah. He's audience are the dumbest fucking people on Earth. We'll say as a dumb person myself. I did just now as soon as you said one third. I was like who did a magic trick but it's sort of like statistical like vague is just like right really and smoking so smoking's looking when this thing where he in reading thing about him he he has said that he was in favor of Jimmy Carter and then when Reagan came along he switched and he was like I'm no longer <hes> Christian person who's a Democrat I think Reagan style conservatives and that's when I started being a conservative and it seems like from there he has has had this thing of big government as bad no matter what and he's not the only person who feels that way in politics but I feel like if you save big government is bad absolutely no matter what and then you're him in this take economy you have to sail this crazy shit about backing up yeah big government means smoking is good or bad Moulana as a as a Disney sigh up and let you have to go Chris Eight rent a quote from him. That was like I'm a Christian I then a conservative live and then a Republican yeah that that was completely as brand yeah so he's just doing as much mental gymnastics as he can to validate well. Here's the thing with that. It's like when you're a liar. That's the order you say. No Mike Pence lying yeah. It's like one man always tells the truth one man Christian a concert and you're just like yeah guess what both of them would say the exact same ship yeah. Maybe let's look at that era. Were still in of this early early pants because like you said he ran twice for the house in one thousand nine hundred nineteen ninety they're both against the same Guy Democrat Philip Shirt and the second race in nineteen ninety gap particularly ugly and apparently there was one newspaper headline about him in the Indiana Star that said pence urges clean campaign calls opponent a liar which is just like just real chance I love it yeah and then it was during that campaign that the Super Racist Yeah Yeah yeah so it's mostly kind of wiped from the Internet but there's one old blurry still image flooding around that will have footnoted. He turned her page five on your cracked active podcast book yeah. This is a real. It's the thing where they put out this ad where they had a white guy in a quote unquote Middle Eastern costume doing like a weird sketch where the guy was thanking pence's opponent opponent for making America more dependent on Middle Eastern oil and more in the clutches of of unnamed Middle Eastern country. I I guess maybe Iraq because we were at war in nineteen ninety but but <hes> feel like for a lot of conservatives Middle Eastern is just one country. Oh yeah yeah so I kind of these vague people that we hate yeah exactly and then Mike Pence he he runs this racist ad he is also calling upon a liar very brutal campaign in one thousand ninety and then ultimately loses mainly because it came out that he was using campaign funds to pay his mortgage also to pay for groceries and car payments and golf tournament entries that last one actually might be a little campaigning because they do business there it was it was legal at the time for some reason and then almost immediately after he and some other people did this. They made laws against it and general people were like new. You don't seem very fiscally put together yeah. That's not cool yeah. I like the <hes> the specific of groceries yeah yeah yeah because that's really just like true means. He's just carrying his campaign checkbook at the luck with him at all time one thousand nine hundred more analog so he's just like like he's handing a check to someone at the <hes>. Let's see Indiana. I WANNA say N.. P. Burke's Hoeger. Maybe heading yeah. He's handing a Meyer employees area because there because you're from Michigan Andrew so yeah Meyer Michigan Yeah Oh yeah oh yet. I'm from Kentucky so we've got a Meyer. We've got a very Indiana Diana border. We're we're all like surrounding annoy. We know he's handing checks that the from line is like Mike Pence for state date for like her house of Representatives Yeah Yeah Bunch of times that's crazy while he buys like frozen corn or something checks thinking about Indiana and there's a legendary Indiana person named Jim Davis Brody pick this one out because it turns out super close with Mike that's there they've been very good friends for years and years and years and Jim mm Davis. I've learned is a huge fan of Indiana. Just loves the state. He's from now. They're both like born and raised way into it yeah and Jim Davis is the Creator Garfield. Davis Garfield started kids. He's the creator of of that meme where the white guy drinks dogs burn. Yes yes is like deeply close with Jim Davis and he has just so much Garfield Paraphernalia. I think is that feels like such a big red flag and look Garfield just fine fine. We're very similar in a lot of ways I love to nap days kicked that constantly eating Lasagna for some reason I'm I'm afraid of Monday's fear right. It's just the fear of the same thing to quote every racist. This is different and I'm afraid it's something that I found which is a very like worthwhile video that you guys should look up. Is Mike pence singing happy birthday to Garfield nope yeah. It's take a deeply sort of devastating and it's like Mike Pence kind of as a person is very deep uncanny valley. I feel being versus. That's right as much as we've said like Tron Disney comparisons dreamworks characters anyway he did you just like be team Animation Right B-team Three D. animation yeah so it's it's like a c-span video and it's the the craziest thing in the world and I actually saw it a couple years ago and my good friend Dylan Glue and I we hosted a like a standup show and just the theme was might pen singing Happy Birthday Garfield. That's not like a theme but it felt important enough that we're like this should be the title of something and we'll invite him. Stand ups to do but we need a group of people together and know that this happened and it's like a picture on an easel of Garfield old jumping out of a birthday cake. It's Oh this is state. It's a devastating and gorgeous piece of film Garfield. The creation of Jim Davis who according to the Indiana Star they've been friends for decades and they spent on Halloween of two thousand fourteen together handing out Candy Mike Pence Yeah just doing that in Indiana pencils the governor and <hes> and then they asked a spokesperson like why is Mike Pence. Jim Davis hanging out and they said they've been friends for twenty five years and they just I love spending time again. David Letterman was Indiana also right. Yes the hang out with this right wing lunatic saying you can love your generated a lot of cool people and then it also generated pets so the cool people just didn't hang out with them forever. I mean that really just puts him. In such relief with fucking Fascist Scott Atoms Dilbert Mr Dilbert who is out there like openly fucking racist fastest all this shit yeah twitter's go happening. Jim Davis manage the twitter. People don't know this shit yeah. He has quietly well. Even the Indiana Star refers to him as Delaware counties. Jim Davis they don't even call him like Car Airfield Greater Jeff Davis or whatever it is in jail like you know that guy from Muncie you know if you had told like eight year old Alex that the creators of Garfield and Dilbert would both someday be in league with with these folks been he would have had a shelf off to clear out books of works of Literature. There's you're right wing comedy Dilbert early versions of both pretty funny and I'm also link Mike Pence. I think it's an older office is not the current office of the vice president of the United States but it's got a lot of signed Garfield merch Yeah and pictures from Jim Davis with little custom messages linked to an Amazon. On collection of just <hes> Garfield Treasuries so folks click the affiliate when it really helps us out they really. He has like a customized like comic of Garfield saying like I hate Mondays Dot and women should I am. I being commissioned to draw on the table and everyone loves it. No one feels weird and no one's contacting H._R.. In twenty percent stranger the one of them. It's a picture of Garfield and then Jim Davis drew in a thought bubble and the thought bubble says hey mike have given cats the vote and then there's another note Dow from Jim that says don't mind him good luck bike. Mike Wall thing vice president now was like ad is going up. There are almost certainly Republicans Republicans. Yeah cats are Republicans. They're the most selfish creatures cats definitely don't want big government. They want to be able to kill anything or anyone. They want exactly God. I can't believe I am saying that. There's one other Mike Pence newspaper cartooning story which is when he was in law school. He drew a comic Strip for the law school newspaper and it was called law school days. D._A.'s Z. Z. E. Will Lincoln article of a bunch of them. It's hard to describe like what's up with it because they're just they're just kind of aren't legible jokes in it. There's one strip where it's an ad for a magazine called torts illustrated instead of sports illustrated traded. I think Mike Pence Jim Davis just get together and be real corny dudes. That's how they spend their time. I was going to say that means for sure Jim. Davis has had to take a call from Mike. That's like Jim so would you think chance to look at my newest sir. Jim Davis has had to lie to Mike Pence about how his new comic was God. I really liked the line work. He might have said we okay. I'm cracking a theory right now. Is this sort of a Hitler situation in that Mike Pence would have been a cartoon a and and kept getting rejected by newspapers to be a Sunday comic strip. Yeah it does seem like if he had had the ability to be a fulltime cartoonist. He never would have bothered with this stuff right. There's a real world where her <hes> the sentence goes. 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Show we've hoped to do that for a long time and now we can because we're coming to the London podcast festival Sunday September eighth at King's place and the harder London full information is linked in the food notes and if you are the Queen I will go ahead and get you a ticket yeah. I will do that for sure recipe. Please check it out. Thanks there's a lot of things that just Mike Pence current guys up to. He has a wife and family wonderful. I think other than the Moulin thing that all of us tweet here's now about Andrew this is the other twitter ones Weird Mike Pence thing which is that like he calls his wife Mother Yeah Karen Pants and so this is a thing that you know everyone on twitter knows about it because is it's a weird thing to do. I will say I think that's a very common thing for fucking white guys that generation who have wives who are mothers to do I call your way mother. Yeah like the Dad Addin leave it to beaver or one of those like fifteen shows would call their wife mother. I think I think it's like a throwback to like one generation previous because I have older relatives who I would just here like an uncle call calling my aunt mom like it was just because he's used I think there I think it's partly they're used to referring to their spouses mom because their kids call the mom and so it's all very new to me and I'm well. I think it's one of those things where like if you only think about your relationships in terms of family and then you only view your wife's value as mother the kids call her mom basically you're outnumbered by people who call her mom mm-hmm and people who rent her fucking Donna or whatever so like a carrot. I guess in this space so like her name becomes mom mother Mommy whatever like that's that's the woman's name because that's her fucking role because he's he's is sixty years old and I associate this with like eighty year old people bill as a little far back history melody of mother. Yes mom yeah also looking at this. <hes> I learned people may it'd be now especially if they lived under Reagan a whole bunch but Reagan used to call Nancy Reagan Mambi Yeah just referred to as that that's at least like cute. Mother is very <hes> Nicaragua the holes in it racist for reasons. I don't understand that's Reagan. Those are all direct Reagan. Look those were actually audio the Reagan speech I mean the other thing that like that sorta dovetailed with that and I imagine all the most of the got dug up around the election time which is that he basically won't be alone with a woman yeah right his wife and I feel those are like the bill of a piece yeah sure you know and it goes with his views from that. Maybe Moulana article which is that like his worldview is that men have no choice but to rape women yeah the only thing that keeps them no not even keeps them to do that from doing that. The only acceptable rubric within to do that is marriage he his implication that he would sexually assaults or or whatever be unable to control himself around any given woman he weirdly is has like like is in a full agreement with like you know seventies feminists like all sexist like viewpoint like Mike Pence seems was to believe that given the way he behaves the way he talks about Zak yeah you know like he truly believes that all Sachs's right. He's very very cautious. Yeah sort of sexuality without Howard fucking weird powered. I'd ever serious I I assume his rules are very strict and it's that he will not have dinner or a meal with a woman like on their own <hes> unless his wife is president and then he won't have he won't be at an event where alcohol is served and there are women them and their unless his wife also there yeah so if it's just a group of man drinking it's fine there any women and alcohol in the room together. His wife has to be there. He just leaves. He's out yeah I and then some people have pointed out that limits women's professional opportunities around him own thing. Here's the thing I do kind of think. That's a win for women in this case. I go to a place where there is alcohol so it's clearly some kind of party and Mike Mike Pence is there. I'LL BET party happens that that's true but it's the rog reason for the wrong reasons. Sit Her to win for me. Personally you sure you'll lockdown. Mike Pence is never going to be anywhere near myself into Oh my God he's going to be well. What have what's going to happen? As you are going to be at Garfield Party. I'm going to be at Garfield Party Garfield Park but we'll say that viewpoint as as you said is like with all the fucking you know sexual assaults happening in the entertainment industry that is a thing that people are saying and doing doing like men in positions of power already have dinner with the woman anymore or I don't even do it because it's just not safe. I don't WanNa be accused of anything. Guess what you fucking Shit heads that means you have the same view as Mike Pence the dark viewpoint. He has just low key there and nobody talks about. It's crazy. A point. That's important to me is like it's also a super common viewpoint super super political. It's fucking. That's why maybe I'd I feel like it's worth looking closely at any person like Mike Pence because they do have a large constituency. I think it's not just that a lot of people don't know things about them. It's that a lot of people do know some of these things about them and they're like and finally finally yeah yeah yeah. Oh my God right yeah star but even if you don't know all of the like crazy details for a lot of people in this country it's holy confident with like yeah this society I want yeah and that's gross not good pretty bad. He also one one other thing with his wife. Karen pence is that we don't know if it's the current situation with the vice presidential office but in pence congressional office and Governor's Office there was a red phone in his office like a you know like one of those headphones like a Soviet hotline or something that was just for her to call him which is a lot of closeness between them great but also most so most politicians don't happen to do that. Nobody talks about yeah. They're just monitoring each other. That's their marriage but maybe that's a sex thing for them. See that's Hobo best case scenario by asking this weird kink yeah because I when with the with the few stories maybe people know of Mike Pence being weird. One of the main ones is the relationship between him and his wife and a lot of it could be fine between the kind of okay. I don't know why people are fixated on that because he makes us all complicit in it by making sure we know about shit like this big red follow yeah the big red infonet performance and obvious and guess what has made us all unwilling participants in his sex act his sex play seriously glib way ultimately ability believe what I just watch his four fuck you Mike Pence. It's like a Rube Goldberg a really like the mouse trap hits the Candy. It's the millions of people read about the phone we all know then we have another story of Mike and Karen out on the town and they were at an Indianapolis Colts game in October two thousand seventeen and I think brody pick this one out because they just weird so weird stunt well okay. Here's the thing I understand committing to a bit. I have spent money committing to bits. I have on multiple occasions. Asians done a thing where I ascend wow and walked backwards out of like a trivia bar because my friends I proved my friends wrong and kept walking backwards until I got mostly to my apartment and then had to take a lift back Jack. You're doing a bit of walk backwards other room blocking all the way and then I understand committing to the bit here was the bit that Mike and Mother committed to was that they they went to an Indianapolis Colts game they flew out there October twenty seventeen just to walk out while the players kneel during the national anthem so so they had to spend the number here says three hundred twenty five thousand dollars and the national anthem famously happens at the very beginning of so punch a single part of that game instead what they did was they spent six figures to walk to a different place while this figures of our money so oh yeah yeah I mean we. He spent yeah. I feel good about it a little box on my taxes that year. That's like I'll donate a little extra to the fucking Mike Pence Racist Performance Art Fund it was bad text exactly in here's what he did which was interesting just an interesting little twist on it was that he tweeted his and Karen's picture at the stadium he tweeted out before he you walked out but the picture was actually from twenty fourteen so he used an old picture that people on the Internet who are famously better than him at the did a very quick quick search to discover and so it was just a lot of effort to perform the thing that he's constantly saying which is that yeah. Black people deserve to be killed by police systematically yeah yeah right or is he would say they've disrespected our troops yeah even though that's not what they're doing and they say disrespected are horny true it all comes back to back to Milan yeah yeah what a what a an expense and what a weird thing to just not take a new picture at the game just taking news cleared just take a new selfie. Also I should come clean. I was the one that paid the money <hes> uh-huh I'm swimming in debt because it turns out it's three hundred twenty five grand for be flights because you can't just take a regular plane you have to do a secure one and then security and then they also do extra precautionary teams at local hospitals in case. There's some real bad thing that happens in in the process of security going God forbid of course God forbid and so then so they spent all this money not just do this thing where Mike Pence was apparently always going to leave the game because he hasn't even bother taking a new picture at the game they were at it was that much of a stunt yeah amazing wonderful. We genuinely should knock pay taxes. We shouldn't this crazy we shouldn't have to and so Mike Pence is the vice president and he had an interesting progression to get their his first step to do it was he didn't know Donald Well. Trump before the the two thousand sixteen campaign was happening and according to McKay coppins piece in the Atlantic trump met him at trump's Bedminster New Jersey golf course because trump is only ever golfing in his own property and so he was doing that and then Mike Pence made a point of telling the media afterward that trump quote beat me like a drum and quote at golf and not not physically I don't think but he he made a point of hearing bad which is like very smart trump trump handling like he knew trump only consumes the world through newspapers and television just cost. Do you think he lied or do you think he just tanked the game. That's the thing we don't know but it's it's one of those sure you just take the game right game trump for sure she'd say call so you don't have to play golf. Also if trump was amazing at Gulf we would know right they would make a video of it. If if you know that would instead of making the apprentice you would've made some kind of golf show like China Yeah. That's a great point. Yeah we know yeah. DONALD TRUMP is bad. It's and also the Atlantic article says that before I meeting trump Mike pence turn to his longtime friend Kellyanne Conway for advice which is just now stand up comic and then <hes> there's also the kind of final step here from this Atlantic piece of of how Mike Pence became the nominee for vice president and then the V._p.. Is Paul Manafort pretended the trump plane broke down in Indianapolis. It's like in the final stretch of picking EP IN CRAT so and Paul Manafort famously very nice guy but it was in the final stretch of picking V._p.. Trump was between Mike Pence and Chris Christie with all the bridge gates stuff out there and with all the other scandals that Chris Christie down out there and trump was like Christie's. The Petr Guy is just New York because because trump thinks he's like mafia don and Chris Christie was close as he could get yeah. It feels like it probably know each other a lot better. He didn't hen really met pants much yeah and he probably thought like pences like a Nazi ned flanders and it's like I'd like to Nazi part the Night Flanders Part is boring and Ray. He convinced him all Saturday away. Yeah exactly and I don't like to larger than life personalities. According to the Atlantic July twelfth trump is told that his plane breaks down in Indianapolis but <hes> the article quote vote according to two former trump there was no problem with the plane Paul Manafort who was then serving as the campaign chairman had made up the story to keep the candidate in town and extra day and allow him to be wooed by pants. The Gambit worked three days later trump announced pence as his running mate and that's and that's why Mike Pence the vice president I remember reading that and it was like he yeah he literally just like went to pencils house for dinner and then they probably just like kissed his ass and here we are under a Frolo Rollo government policy wise. We're definitely more Mike. It's like Mike. It's all Mike Pence yes yes he does he doesn't approve. It doesn't bother like it's all working out for his worldview right now. Exactly Yeah 'cause that <hes> Mike Pence's vary in line with the super mainline current republican system and so then trump just does their stuff to keep them and then there you go I mean pens is also that's like strategic strategic. Pick for somebody like trump who could conceivably not be the person that the evangelical population would go agree with that really think like so clearly evangelical Jellicoe Christians they know that ultimately their bread buttered on the racism party that there's not one thing a republican could do quote unquote morals wise in my opinion that would sway sway that population and they do and they like at least the party likes Mike Pence a whole lot he has all these friends like Kellyanne Conway Yeah and then also there's I think maybe the most fascinating story in this in this Atlantic article is that in October of two thousand sixteen the Access Hollywood tape comes out. It seems like trump's GonNa go down and Mike Pence through back channels says to the Republican Party. I'm ready to take over. I can uh which is <hes>. Maybe the coolest thing about but that's why old for being like a very smooth polite man on the surface all the time we keep finding that he's also like real hardcore. The tape came out October seventh two thousand sixteen according to the Atlantic within hours pence communicated to the committee that he was ready and then when I never know how to pronounce his name Ryan's pre-bus yeah got it there we go yeah and <hes> so he then told trump and a meeting that trump could either go ahead and run and lose or he could drop out because they had a Mike Pence Condoleeza Rice ticket rago both of those different examples of what we men think strong men are it's like he was ready to pounce when he thought trump was down and then immediately skittered back and the same thing with trump trump does the so like fucking pence thinks he's Machiavelli even again. He's just like a lying Nazi not see and then trump thinks he's like the godfather when he's just like a scared little boy scared racist old man. You know what I mean. It's it's the same thing we're just like yeah. You're fucking the weakest people on Earth and behave in okay. That's true even even pence being like I'll take over is that had never as far as I know has never happened in American history where a month before election day the V._p.. Just takes over the ticket yeah at the sign of what they think is a fatal blow. It's like it's like what a hyena would do yeah no. It is quite quite live action lion king. I think it's very funny for him to immediately. Go behind jobs back and be like I'm prom queen now. According to the article he stopped taking calls from trump and there was just didn't know what was going on trump's end you know and and and yeah it never comes up now now. They're just like <hes> we love. Being a ticket together worked like we definitely knew it. Would we get elected so they're both getting what they want so good so yeah ultimately. It's just people having stuff workout. It's just a story about two friends. Get into a little bit of a pickle immediately. Get Out of it. It's like a ROM com. Frankly quickly com with a touch of adventure so there you go. There's your fucking right wing Hollywood right. That's right like an upbeat. The song while we pan over the city like nineties round COM yellow televised font trump's kicking the tires out his private jet like what am I gonNa do Tonight Okay Paul. Where do I go to dinner with a friend of mine? No big deal mother is going to give you your well done steak with ketchup yeah what if they both have the same state tastes. We're sure right regardless of taste for sure. That's what Mike Pence eight that night right all right yeah because if you're a constant brownnoser and you see the person above you eat something crazy. You're probably just like a one for me. I bet he he had them. Both ready to go yeah I I think he had them both ready to go and he was like this is the pence family favorite God you're Oh what a coincidence up hard steak going to work together lady and trimming or so well done the folks that the episode for this week my thanks to Brody Gupta and Andrew T for for all being midwesterners that was just very exciting enemy Abba mainly for getting into these amazing stories about the depths of these strangeness of Vice President Mike Pence the strangenesses very very very funny to me and then also I think we tackled exactly how it matters and now it's important and in our food notes you will find those absolute depths of strangeness. You will find in particular a cracked article called six totally W T.F. Mike Pence stories nobody ever brings up by Isaac Abe and that amazing McKay coppins feature in the Atlantic called God's God's plan for Mike Pence. Those two stories are really the core of the whole episode going today. You'll also find photographic evidence that when Mike and Karen Pence went to a colts game to protest the protests they really didn't didn't bother taking a new picture of themselves. You'll see that it was from a previous twenty fourteen game but also they put a little bit of an instagram filter on it so it's slightly different colored would otherwise it's exactly the same and there are White House photographers I and so we have a link to a picture of the pence's at the 2017 game and they're closer different from the ones that they tweeted so it is just a that that is maybe the strangest one because it just doesn't make sense to be weird cared about that like you can just take new picture or you can not bother tweeting a picture of yourself at a location like you're trying to build evidence. It's it's very very strange way to behave as it's UNCANNY <hes> not not in the good way like the X. X.. Men like in the weird way you will also find be complete. 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#2033: A Big, Beautiful, Piece of Junk

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#2033: A Big, Beautiful, Piece of Junk

"The car talk of National Public Radio with US clipping clack the tapper brothers, and we're broadcasting this week from the take back division here. Car Talk Plaza. Yeah I mean this is not a joke. This is not the anything that's funny. Necessarily, some people might find funny it's just news. What do I know that you're GONNA find? Somebody will find it. Funny. Headline. One thousand year old giant sequoia. Falls. Sequoia National Park, California Associated Press serious a two hundred foot tall giant sequoia tree thought to be a thousand years old fell along sequoia. National Parks Main Road. Crushing a vehicle into a pile of. Metal. No one was injured, but the jeep grand Cherokee was completely destroyed. Oh might be flat as a pancake. The vehicles own had driven to California from Florida. He. said they had hiked to a waterfall close by they heard this huge crash almost like a sonic boom and they saw the top of a tree going over. They didn't put together until they get back and saw the fallen on their car. He said, we're all interested to see if the insurance company treats this as an act of God. Oh. And if it is an act of God, what happens they don't pay act of God what does that all about I mean what about what if you're an atheist? Everything's covered. You voted when they say I'm sorry that's not covered selective Rhode I said there's No God. You always seventy, five, hundred bucks. I. Hope they had a good laugh. The car that's what I hope to I want to the way I felt the day that car fell off the list. And I don't remember to whom it belonged yet but. When it was all over and there it was lying on its side with every fluid imaginable leaking from. And I was sitting next to a going. Happy that I wasn't under the and these people should have been happy that they weren't they weren't. They could've just pulled up and been ready to get out of the car and the Tree Dan could have fallen on them that would have been horrible. Well, it is by the way an act of God it was no accident. That tree killed an SUV. No I don't want to put any editorial comment. No I mean you can say whatever you want I didn't really mean to say that. I mean the fact that it happened to be an SUV. Bad. Well I'm glad they're all right. Anyway if you have a question about your car or your tree or anything else the number to call is eight eight eight. Eight, eight, two, two, seven, eight, two, five, five, lawyer on car talk. Call and I'm calling from Olympia Washington Nicole. Olympia. Still the capital. Yes. That's the capitalist. To See if you're a real WASHINGTONIAN. Lashing Tony, I'm all wet. You have a nickname, Nicky Nicky, a guy that with two KS. To is to is. ANYWAYS, anyways go ahead I have an eighty nine jeep wagoneer. And often, not always. But only when I start the car does it And it turns over it goes. But it doesn't start and my husband thinks I should start the car with her gloves for a week. He thinks that you're somehow. Exactly yeah. With electricity something but I really, I can't go around with river gloves glow in the dark I mean. Does. He have any foundation for this Belief well, because it only happens when I start the car always starts for him. Now when you turn the key, yeah, I turn, the kit goes Well, is it different from the times when it starts you does it go. When. It starts in when it doesn't is it cranking slower? Won't Normally Cranks Charlie. Gusto doesn't start but listen to this is added mystery. The story. Every time it happens. I'm usually at the grocery store or somewhere. So I have my jumper cables and I asked somebody to give me a jump and always starts. My battery and alternator is fine I. had it checked out? Oh. Wait a minute. I think you've left out something here. You said it only happens when you try to start the car but. Do you. Ever try to stop the car first thing in the morning when it's been sitting in the driveway all night oh. Yeah. Right up and it doesn't stop not always. It happened to me once where I went in, it was cold. I started although my husband had been driving earlier that morning. Maybe it wasn't cold. What's important question what percentage of the time do you drive the car all the time ninety eight that's why it never happens to him. He's ever in it. And when he does drive the car, when does he drive it under what circumstances? What he is basically your car. Afternoon I. Guess. So if he were to ever use the car, he would use it late in the afternoon. After you've been using it all day. Usually. And so whenever he gets, it always starts. Okay. So the other ninety percent of the time you're driving the car, what percentage of those times does it not start for you her meet? Timeout on a ten thirteen percent. It does not start. It happens like those thirteen percent of the ninety eight percents. percent of one hundred percent. Twenty three percent of the ninety eight percent twenty-three percent it starts one hundred percent of the ninety eight, that's like baseball. Doesn't stop doesn't start there okay? Now, let's one more thing when it doesn't start. Of the twenty three percent of the ninety. Of, the ninety eight percent how many times does it not start when it hasn't run at all that day yet as opposed to it has been running. Off and on during the day probably half of that. So it's half and half. His My last question when you said that you know there's nothing wrong with the battery. alternator because they've been checked. Who check them and if you know, how did they check them this woman with a machine check that in the parking lot and she hooked it up and read some numbers to her and she said, Ooh, good battery. Good alternator. Well. Probably. How big was the machine? Oh she rolled it out cart. On car, this was a a repair shop. No. Car. It was an auto supply place. And they test because I thought it was a battery because it starts when it gets jumped. I, you may be right that in fact, it is the battery. Maybe Ryan Test May, have been bogus. And thus my question who tested it how did they test it? Well, we know how we know who you know who? We don't believe it. Don't believe it is right. We think she came to the wrong conclusion. It is possible for batteries to test good when they're not. It is possible. This also possible that you have some kind of a current drain that is running the battery down. That would explain why when you run the thing all day long and then your husband gets into late in the afternoon, it starts right up for him because he charged on a chance to recharge his batteries. One has it. When it sits overnight, you go out to started barely starts you drive the thing a short distance shut it off and it might barely start on not start again. Because you've used up a lot of the current from the battery and haven't had an opportunity for the charging system which may have correctly determined is producing enough electricity. It may not be charging it up enough to restart it on a hot start. How do I find out if it's getting drained electrical, you take it back to her and ask you to tested for current drain and to retest the battery to retested charging system and make sure the belt is tight enough and all that. I, need. Tests Belt. The belt that runs the alternator Some squeaking could that be Sean? Your. Yes. You could have something as simple as a loose belt. Yeah, which is preventing the alternator from charging the battery sufficiently. That's it. That would be nice because that would be cheap. Okay. But YOU WANNA, make sure that whoever test is does a load test on the battery test load. And also tests the current and voltage output of the alternate is suspected that when she put this little box, whatever it washy wheeled out not when. But she may have only been looking at voltage and. A battery can have twelve volts and be pretty dead. Go back and suggests that she retested and also make sure your test that that belt to see if it's tight enough the problem could be a loose belt. All all right. Thanks a lot. Sure. Good Luck Nick. Thanks. We're the gloves. Goes. One eight eight, eight, car talk or one, eight, eight, eight, two, two, seven, eight, two, five, five, low. You're on car talk. Hi, this is Jim Davis. I'm calling from the chemical laboratories in the basement sub basement of car talk finds. Baby Professor Jim. Jim Davis we have to tell some of the people who may not know is the. Talk chemist and he moonlights by occasionally teaching at that what is that little school up the street there WGC world's greatest universe. Otherwise known as Harvard Right. I'll show I say hall. Harbor we were fighting fiercely. So what do you want him? I understand that somebody called in last week and wanted to talk about distilled water versus tap water for radio. And also that Ray came up with some fascinating new theory of Hungary water that. I. I didn't come up with this. We receipt we some some months. So let's go back to the call. The call was from a guy who wanted to know should I put distilled water in my radiator instead of tap water I said Gee I. Don't see how it could hurt sounds a jolly good is that I did to me my brother immediately leaps in and says. He's and we got a letter something from someone a longtime ago. That said distilled water is hungry water. It's still because it doesn't have any minerals in it, and so it's looking for minerals. And it's hungry water. It's political. It's GONNA suck. It's Kinda suck the steel right out of the block. Let's see if we can sort this out here. Just, I. Don't think distilled water could hurt a radiator but I also don't think it makes much difference in the modern radiator. Now, if you had one of these jobs that blows steam all the time and you constantly have to resell it, well, you would have a problem with mineral buildup from tap water. But if you've got a modern radiator that's fairly well sealed and seldom if ever needs to have to be topped off with top water, then it really is not going to make much difference don't forget. It's not just in contact with the what the metal of the radiator vents also in contact with the engine right? The cast iron aluminum. But now in a radiator, you don't just have water. You don't. You also put coolant which contains anti oxidants precisely to prevent that from happening. And that process is going to happen or not happen without regard to whether the water is distilled or tap water but I tell you about this other thing, the hungry water business. Or? I'm disappointed that he didn't on my side. We're looking to. Research Grant and connection progress there. But. In order for minerals to get dissolved. In order for the metal itself to get into the water, it would have to be oxidized, and once again, there's where your antioxidants are supposed to prevent it. Antifreeze. Wears out and it becomes less oxygen. You do have to change drain it and for and refresh it periodically. Don't you don't you do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's so. But. What if you did not change it would the the question is would the distilled water? have be more likely to dissolve the block right what if there were no antifreeze what have you had just plain all distilled water well, both distilled water and tap water would very quickly start rusting the entered, serve your radiator and whatever else would want to do it faster because there's more room. Humphries It really depends on the oxidation. So. Have you ever heard the expression Hungary water before Jim? Oh, I've heard of heavy. To polywater which turned out to be absolute Shit Hungary water, I gotta go back to the Left. We can do that. Well, I wish you'd give us a little more thought. Back let's On. This is another one of those series. Now, I I will admit that in this case, my brother did not invent a theory, but my brother is. Somewhat. Famous. For. KRANJI joining presenting theories which sound so good. I'll tell you the letter. In the ultimate analysis, our complete. Booth well, the letter was sounded so authoritative. Evidence that there ever was a letter. Well. I mean it wasn't. It wasn't a letter in the. Traditional sense I mean like pen on paper. Wasn't like a dream it was like a dream sequence. But it sounded so good that Jim could have even been the theoretician themselves. Well, I mean it was it was interesting enough that we had to resort to Jim Yeah Yeah Yeah. Well, I thank you for the reference. Well, I do appreciate you. Thank you a million times even though you didn't corroborate what I feel strongly about I admire you. Your car. Your honesty. Hungry. We're GONNA admit. You go sure now you're encouraged by. By. Jim's testimony you'll word so quickly. Me Last week it was not I absolutely because why it's surrounded. So and the truth is that's all it's GonNa do Osama but it doesn't really have to be true most these can't be proven. It sounds good. It's good enough horns and Fleischmann they sounded good. They may yet be gloomy. Yeah. 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Let me read you a couple of lettuce which seemed to be somehow related. Here's one You know how it is. You sit there and you read your mail and you say isn't that Nice would really doing a service to the world we're helping people. Do. You guys who'd student. Guys that says, Hey, guys this is from game and tell you who it's from Bob Anderson this is name. Love your show been listening for years of managed to get my nine soon-to-be ten-year-old hooked on it as well. Anyway, I think this is a great story. The other day I had just gotten a new lawn mower and was having difficulty starting it. My nine year old kid walks by he stopped he watched me mumbling and sweating, and then he said. It's flooded dead. You have to pull the plug clean it dry. and. You might have to re gap and then try starting it then. I stopped him and I said Hey. What does that mean? His reply was I. Don't know but I heard it on car talk. Thought. Is US would like to know y molding young minds. Yes. That's the kind of male melting like kind of mail that you say that makes you feel good the very next letter I had a feeling. Guys just wanted to let you know you make my three year old boy Joshua cry. Would driving along I turn on your show. He starts to cry I changed the station. He stops I turned back to the show he starts crying. Every time I tried to put your Sean because it has one of the best shows on the radio. My kids starts to cry yeah, Arcade Houston Christ. That makes you have. Opposite ends. And he's one that's in the middle somewhere. Oh. That's that next that last one was from Kevin. Chase. From, Kathy McCormack before I started listening to car talk I knew absolutely nothing about cars. Now. Once later. I still know nothing about cars but I don't care anymore. That's great guest. As shooting. I mean, what is it? What does that all not I don't know what it all means, but I like it by the way if you have anything that'll make my brother laugh, which isn't that hard glass grapefruit juice make some laugh. You can email it to him at car talk dot Com. But if you have a question right now about your car the number to call write this down. Eight eight eight car talk that's eight eight, eight, two, two, seven, eight, two, fifty, five, lawyer on car talk. Hi, this is. From, Austin, how are you guys doing, Seychelle? Yeah. Like the islands like the islands no kidding. Yeah. Ask where you got that name actually. Yeah. My parents traveled around the world for their honeymoon and that was their favorite spot nine got the name. Yeah. Where are you from though from Austin? Texas Spent much time in Rangoon. Cam. So, what's up Seychelle? Well? Drive a ninety eight Toyota Camry. And I started the car I, put it in drive and about every tenth time or so my car will just make annoy it's like a grinding, not a grinding noise but like a like a sound your card making fourth gear, sound except my car doesn't have four wheel drive. A stick shift are on automatic transmission it's automatic it's automatic so you put it in D. I put it in D. and I start to drive and it starts out and it's almost like it's the engine is cold except it's in the middle of summer and it just drives really slowly and then after about twenty feet or so at kicks the normal drive and the noise like this. Yeah, kind of it's it's it's almost like. Highlight. Noises. I before I give you what I tell you what I think it is. I'm going to ask you if you've done anything as drastic as maybe checking the transmission oil level. Actually I just had all the fluids changed in the car less than two ago, and this has happened since then you haven't checked the fluid level since the noise started no uh-huh, he gets down. Well, the noise you're hearing right is the transmission grinding itself into pieces wonder. knows. What if you're lucky and you've caught it in time, you're going to have to hang up the phone maybe now. and run out. And check the level just because. This is an off made mistake. That people assume because the fluids were changed and obviously refilled that it couldn't possibly be low because it just got filled up but that's the time to be most suspicious. Okay. Because that's when the mistakes made I mean it. It hasn't been leaking when you went in right? So they changed the fluid and maybe just maybe they damage the gasket when they changed the transmission pan gasket and the filter. Very. Nice to them. Well, here's what you should do. You should take it to a shop. Not. The, guys you took it to the first time. When if if for no other reason than if there's something wrong, you don't WanNa get information a what do they call that unbiased unbiased Evans right. When unbiased information from some other repair person so if that person has all yeah, they damage the gasket you've out your fluid and you may have cooked your transmission because then you may have a case against these guys if they refuse to fix it, right right. So go someplace and get checked. Okay. Sin Shell it's been a pleasure talking to you. Thank you. You'll have a wonderful show I love your name seal later e to buy buy one eight car talk that's eight eight eight double to seventy eight to fifty, five along car talk. Hello this is Oscar. Lima from Nolan how you doing Oscar? Yeah we know you're a real native because you said Nolan's actually. I was born and raised in New York City but I've been down here twenty years. Wow. That's what happens you twenty years. Most most people can't get rid of a New York accent in twenty years when I get angry it comes out real easy. Really. Yes and how do you say the falling where DOJ? Dog. Oh. You have lost it man. You go to a movie and there are a lot of people waiting to get in US doing what standing in line in line you lost it man who did lose it 'cause New Yorkers all this online stay in the online. Oh Yeah. Well, over here we don't press the button and the elevator we mashed. Anyway. What's the nature of your call? Okay. It's a ninety one chevy blazer, an Astra, and it has about three hundred, thousand miles on it. And it's using brake fluid. But it's not spilling out anywhere. I go you know one of those little pint cans I. Guess. About every week and a half two weeks, I gotta fill that little reservoir that has little boot covering it. But I told the wheel cylinders and everything it's not leaking anywhere and I know my wife not drinking it it's up. To me I figured if anybody can find out click and clack good. Well, you know where it is part. Of. unanswerable questions. You. the cover that goes on the snap fit cover for Iraq correct plastic cover. UPS. In in and you push it down and your tap it down. It's got four four clips. Is that thing all wet with brake fluid? The master cylinder don't. Not Okay have you noticed any difference in breaking? No I don't drive it. My wife drives. It hasn't complained about the the FEC narrow orange when it's low the pedal will go down. And then she'll. Pull over pop up to hood stick the you know she keeps breath with it and puts it in goes on our merry way right? Because you don't drive it, you're going to have to ask your wife if occasionally it runs rough occasionally was right and and blows a lot of smoke out the Tailpipe, and here's what's happening if there's a leak that you absolutely can't find. Through. The master into the cover into the booster into the boost to the brain atlas, the master cylinder is bolted to this thing called the vacuum booster and that is filling up with brake fluid. And sometimes another when it gets really full. And you make a turn a sudden stop, it's possible for some of that brake fluid to get sucked into the engine and combusted with the gasoline and it'll make the engine run rough and it might blow some smoke a lot of smoke air but it it works pretty good. I keep it tuned pretty. For Ninety, nine, point, nine percent of the time it's going to run good. Here's the the test, unbolt master cylinder, two bolts that hold it to the booster and pull it away and stick something like a rag in that whole and when you pull it out, it's going to be all right with brake fluid. NEW MASTER CYLINDER No. Oh Yeah. Yeah. I mean if there's really no leak apparent anyway then the only other place that can be is in the booster. Rounds reasonable. It does. Doesn't it? Okay. That's the problem It's been like that for low six seven months or you also sure. Well, it's. The reason you have to remedy it is that at some point you're not going to catch it in time and she's GonNa step on the brake and she's not going to have any breaks. Oh. Really. I guess I should per insurance then. You're apologizing our you want us to do it for you. Better do a full. She listens to you guys all the time. Yeah. Yeah. If you if you went to drive this thing, you'd be out tomorrow morning buying a master cylinder probably should go up and buy one. You can do this yourself the driveway. I I work on the car all the time. I don't like to work on cars neither do that's why we're on the radio. See You later, Oscar thank you. Good luck. One eight go ahead. He went from New York to new. Orleans. And you can see either he he was born. With in the wrong place I on people are I believe he when he lucked out and found the right because it's clear that Nolan's is the place for him off. He's fit right in I. mean he's a simulated he's got the accent got the exact drawl he and the attitude and the exactly right and couldn't kill us couldn't care less. Yeah. One eight we care about your car though so you can call the numbers eight, eight, eight, car talk that's Eight, eight, two, two, seven, eighty, two, fifty, five. Hello you're on car talk. Hi, this is shelley from Tim Colorado. Hi Shelley from where Tim. Tim Nests Great. Timoth Colorado. Well you know you learn. So where the heck is Tim Nath Colorado, well, it's outside of Fort Collins. Okay we know what that is. No, we don't really we've heard of it. Over. Tim Nate yet about one hundred people live there. People uh-huh and we didn't hear of and learn will. Fail I don't know. What's one of those hundred and no actually I live outside of gymnasts. Greater Tim no one goes to. WHO CROWDED So you'll you'll live with greater tim net greater suburban, Tim not. All right. Anyway. So what's going on a question I have a ninety seven white Ford explorer with a little problem few weeks ago I was at work and driving to go to lunch and I had the air conditioner on and all of a sudden I heard. Could like that and I looked over and on the front passenger side, the air conditioning. was. Raining Doug Food. crunchy kinds of screen, the calls, his kids any. From a place in the country, just dog foods coming off the vent. Yes and you know so I thought that was And so I. Knew. What do you feed your dog? Well, I see them that dry food you get in the big bags that say small crunchy bites. Thank God. You're not feeding them the wet dog. Wherever, you park this thing. You have mice that are getting into your dog food supply. And mice are great at squirreling away. You'd think they would call the squirrels if they're that good at. But the great at squirreling away their food stores. They've chosen to store it in. Your heating ducks and what you're hearing is the interestingly to be called a squirrel cage blower. Yeah. They're all over the hitting the dog food that the mice squirrel away in your heating system. So that's going blowing bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-ba and I love it. Yeah. And when you turn the air conditioner off the dog who doesn't come out unless you hit a a bumper, a curb or something. And then it does This makes perfect sense but I don't the either of us has ever heard of this happening before. Because I mean, there's GonNa be a lot of stuff in there. Remember the guy who called this it said the headliner of his truck whose. Brakes. Headline of. The dog who came out and hit a rain down on his head. But I never heard of the fan actually lifting it up and throwing it out through the vets. Well, that's great. So you're gonNA need it on this vehicle. Hop The fan the blower motor in the fan right out. Okay. When they do that, you can you can get in there with a WHO have to play a dog food. My dog does like it. She kind of thinks it's a dog food dispenser. Kind of a dog do you have? Well, he's a little MUTT and if he's riding with me and he looks hungry, I just turn on the. Button Evan. This is like the Cotton, candy machine at the carnival. dumbbell machine. But you boy well, you could just leave this but I think what you need to do is to secure your dog food right you need to wherever you keep it in the garage, I? Guess. uh-huh. You need to do something to keep the mice out. Okay whatever it takes. A isn't that silly I mean there's the bag open the mice go in and they take out of the bag and they deliver it someplace else. But they don't they don't know dog. They don't know if the bag is going to be forever because every once in a while the bag, it's empty and they saw and you think the mice have smart enough to figure that out. No I. Think they were taken it from they know that shouldn't be there. I know something. Words feels good to them in. The market Dr you eat right out of the PUSHCART. The supermarket. If you do that, you don't pay fast. Especially grapes. The grapes and only pay for like a quarter of. Only three crepes. You'RE GONNA go to jail. Shelly takes me. A long up that dog food cancer, clicks. Okay Bye. Okay Tommy I can see the stress of always being wrong is finally get into you. It's not the stress man that's the. Well look you're in luck. It's time for a short break. So I can guarantee you won't be wrong for the next sixty seconds. As, long as you don't say anything, we'll be. Back in a minute. Hundred Miles an now. Take me away. Puts me in control. Latest. Master of Mama. Through this. Inner Smile. 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But if you do of a hankering for a puzzle head over to our website, Car Talk Dot Com where we've posted a puzzle from the archives. So you are puzzling pleasure. The meantime we'll take your car questions right now at eight, eight, eight car talk, which is also believe it or not. Eight, eight, eight, two, seven, eight, two, five, five. Very good. How balked at? Hi, this is Theresa calling from New York, city Theresa with an H H. NO H. Yeah I like it that way. From, where New York City New York City what's up I'm calling because my husband thinks it's unsafe to wear seatbelts for in town driving these. He wears the highway but seventeen years ago when he had his driving instruction, they told him that it was actually to get hit from the side. In town little speeds, it's dangerous because you're stuck there. So if you if you get hit from the side, not stuck do. You mean trapped in the car. He got hit on the side. You weren't strapped in. You could move away from the collision or if you saw for example, rue that great scene in marathon man when the oil truck broadsides Yeah. Vice versa angles brother. Now, if he'd been able to jump from the driver's seat into the past, you see it would've taken about another nanosecond before the explosion reached them. But you but your your husband's theory is that if you could jump into the other seat. If, you were constrained by the seat belt. then. The chances of that happening in your being able to react that quickly how old your husband thirty two. I used to work with a guy who claim that he had been practicing the following maneuver. This. was many years ago and it was. Seatbelts. Weren't even around at the time his what this guy had practiced. Putting his arm on the seat of on the back, the top of the back of the seat and leaping into the back salty into the backseat his theory when he sees that there's an imminent. Head on collision he was trained. To get himself in the backseat before the semi hit. What if he didn't make it? If he ms ally of Fraction of Isaac this guy was otherwise crazy in all respects. Well, I mean I I've got to admit that I liked the idea I mean if you were going to be in a head on collision, wouldn't you? Rather be lying on the floor in the back seat. But I think your husband on the other hand well, none of the other like this guy. Tommy worked with his WACKO. Yeah don't forget. You could. You could always come up with a scenario in which it's better to be would no seatbelt than with we always get calls from Wackos figure who say things like? Well, if my car ever fell off the Brooklyn. Bridge. into the water, I wouldn't want to be sinking to my death unable to get the seat belt off I'd rather have no seatbelt on the answer. Those questions, will you crazy because that's not that's not the way you're going to die and those kinds of accidents where you get broadsided where you'd like to jump to the other side of the car happen without your ever knowing their happening. Some somebody runs a light and boom. You get broadsided in the blink of an eye and you could never react and I think your husband would be safer being built in fact belt for us. Forces the impact wouldn't push him out of the way at all it would be yeah I think all of the of the the complete body of scientific evidence in this area supports putting the seat belt on all the time all the time and leaving it on even if you're going across the Brooklyn Bridge. Good, that's what I wanted to hear to raise. The issue the very best good luck it's going to be it's going be a tough battle for your. Theresa. Guys bye by. One eight eight car talk that's eight eight, eight, two, two, seven, eight, two, five, five, lawyer on car talk. Hello. This is Jason downs from San. Francisco Hi Jason What's up I got V six, ninety, four Camaro with about one hundred, fifty, three, thousand miles on it. Blew. A head gasket. And I don't know if a I should get the head gasket fixed. Be. Just get whole new engine or see scratch the car altogether. If. You dump the car. What would you get? Something really economical but I really do like the car how old are you twenty five? Twenty five. So you have you made it through the under twenty five. death-list. Yes. He means you must have some semblance. Of rationality or incredible luck. Well, don't forget. This is only a V6. The little. The smallest engine doesn't matter they put in this thing it didn't encourage reckless driving. No. So you bought the car because you like the way it looked. Yeah. Well, my oldest son did exactly the same thing he bought a firebird. And he bought it and not because he wanted to go fast he just like the way he looked in it. And he thought that young ladies. Would like the way he looked in the car. Is that why you bought it? Yeah. I've come to realize that it's a big beautiful piece of. So. That really helping me helping me out that much. So it didn't work for you either look at me, but look at me as I, push it down the street. Really that astle. Loser thing tattooed on your forehead yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what one, hundred and fifty K. on it I would have to advise you against fixing this engine. Okay. First of all, I, don't know how you know it's just a head gasket unless someone's taken apart, it could easily be a crackhead or crack the block I. Imagine you'll losing coolant. Mixing Cooler Than Andy Free Cooling Oil Together Yeah and if that's happening, I would say if if you're planning to keep the car, he should drop another engine in. Gently but on the other hand, one, hundred, Fifty K. on that car is I think the life of that car. If you were in love with it. You could save it but if you're ready to get rid of. I'd say get rid of it now but think carefully about you at your choice of an economy car what's that GonNa say about Jason Well at this point I, pretty much past trying to impress people in my life. So you have given up on sex for the rest of your life. Oh you. Kinda did give up on IT I would wait at least until you get married before you get rid of the car. Okay. You know what can happen we can. Show up some day with a Corolla. That might be the end of the marriage. No, it's better to find out. Now I think you should go out and get a Hyundai. ELANTRA. Are they good. Kids. They're going to get the car that says the most. I A real cheapskate and I don't care about anything but economy and looks have nothing to do with not actually I like the Hyundai Elantra I think it's a wonderful car a nice car and it's it's cheap to run. It's cheap to buy and got a great warranty and if you're looking for basic transportation. down. Great car. Okay. Sure and it's time to. Bite the bullet don't don't fix this car anymore I two already got the girl man the car did it. That I have always liked the looks of the Camaro as well. And they'll forget Jimmy Rockford jaw. Camaro. Actually I. Think he drove a fiber matter. Jason. Good. Luck man based what? You got. One Eight, eight, eight, car talk or one, eight, eight, eight, two, two, seven, eight, two, five, five. Hello you're on car talk. Hi this is Barbara Calling from US seventy, California Hi Barbara. quarriers following your car lately and not on my car no but in the park. Oh but not in northern new. Wouldn't be calling otherwise. Okay. What's going on Barbara? Well, I'm planning a road trip adventure. Love. It isn't it great and I'm looking for a van used and travel in. I love the whole VW Camper van idea. But I'm wondering unless I get a really good one Would it be more practical and less problematic Find like a modern minivan and adapt it to my purposes. which is really I just need something that I could sleep in and haul all my stuff but we have to ask you some very very important questions and answers you give will shape. Our answer. Okay. Good. How long the road trip? Well, anywhere from three to six months. Okay. Accompanied or unaccompanied dogs don't count alone. I'll be mostly alone alone. Would you like a dog I'm I'm thinking about getting down to. Have A dog. I don't have one now or where are you going? To Oregon California coast with little side trips into the desert like death valley and the South West. So what what kind of a career have you had that enables you to take six months off well up into this point, I've worked in an accounting department and they also ran a vacation rental. So I've Kinda got two jobs and I've been working really hard and you saved up a few bucks a little bit. How come you don't our car? And preser-? That, no, no. No, and that's not a an adequate car for road trip because you never know for example, you may have occasion to goal to the petrified forest and how you're gonNA steal stuff. There's nothing left. Yeah. It's. Clean and Well interestingly, just this morning I was on my way to the radio station and I was walking across. Arlington Street in downtown Boston and add a traffic light. Is a guy sitting in what had to be the oldest most beat up VW bus. Microbus don't very vehicle that you mentioned at Levitt rust up to the windows, the paint job who knows what color it used to be by Sherwin. Williams. And I have to say I was taken with it. If he would have sold it to me this morning for my price of course, might have bought it in five seconds would have been heading out west with a head with a band Dan on your head absolutely. Yeah. Well, something magic about that vehicle everybody loves VW. The WESTFALIA can prevent everybody's lows you can't beat it. You can. Be Almost anything beats. But but if you want. A, truly memorable adventure I e that you'll have a mind left to memorize with. Then you then you need to have a vehicle akin to one of those. Volkswagen's I. Kick us here because if you get something reliable and predictable like Honda. Sure, you'll make it and you won't get eaten by Hilo monsters, but you have nothing to tell anyone they'll say I was your trip. You say all right. Car Breakdown of course driving Honda. So. If you want something that is going to add a little excitement to it because I have a sense that you want some excitement and you know you, you want to have been working an accountant. Yeah. He's GonNa Excite God. Knows you need. You're right. You're totally right on that. Yes oh I wouldn't hesitate to recommend at one of those. Volkswagen Camper Vans. There's tons of them out there I've been looking. Dying to get rid of them. What do you think about air cooled versus water cooled? Yeah. Well I think you should go air-cooled. Okay I. Think he should stick to tradition. Yes, Yali. Are. You going to ever be when you go out into the desert that's the part of it that I'm a little worried about how old you? Well. You in your twenties. Now I am not WANNA GIVE US base eight. Actually, my forties. Are, you're ready for your ready for this is a breakout trip for you. Yes. You're ready for a new career to you sound much younger boy. I feel much younger never gonNA be able to go back to crunching numbers after the you know that Oh she knows I have a plan for that too. I am never going back yeah. You'RE GONNA be raising prairie dogs I can see you out in the desert some are you going to during some part of this trip be in the desert where there's like nothing on the road and there's nothing you can see in any direction when I, go interested desert I'm going to be accompanied by friends of mine who knows the desert and are going to take me out there with. Guy For the desert portion. Okay. Well, aside from recommending the air cooled wagon. Dog is important because a dog is an early warning system dodge danger. Okay and a big dog would be good. Don't get one of these little things. get a dog that would eat the truck if you were paying attention. No you need a you know a big dog. Okay. Nice rottweiler mix. Gopher Barbara I could tell you can have the time of your life in Envio. 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Episode 14 - Candy Candy Candy

The Spunky and Snarky Show

24:59 min | 10 months ago

Episode 14 - Candy Candy Candy

"This is spunky and snark King we say. Of the show. Welcome to our second week in October show. Rallied spook. Yeah, continuing with our Halloween Shenanigans this week as we take a look at Garfield, Halloween Adventure Garfield from friends was a show that I love when I was a kid and I guess this was a special buy came out where before. A cute little story. Yeah and I wanted to do this because they don't show this anymore on TV. They used to show this like every year back in the eighties and nineties but I haven't seen this in years I don't know what Halloween shows. They show other than the Great Pumpkin. Well, they like on free form which used to be ABC family they do the thirty one days a halloween. So I don't really remember this. I'm sure I've seen it, but it's been a really long time. So anyway, let's dive right in and take a look at Garfield Halloween adventure. Garfield Halloween adventure is ninety five animated special is based on the Garfield Comic. Strip by Jim Davis. It originally aired on CBS on October, Thirtieth Nineteen, eighty five, and this was the fourth of twelve. Garfield television specials made between nineteen, eighty, two and nineteen ninety-one. So, this show opens in the morning Garfield is tucked away and his little square box bed and his woken up when the Pinky the clown show starts and Bingo. The clown has a really annoying allowed voice and he's that way for the kids to do jumping jacks and Garfield. Just kinda gets up like shocked and like starts doing jumping jacks because he doesn't know what the fuck is going on, and then he realizes that goes to turn off the TV when big. Kids got exercise because you're going to get all the candy tonight and Garfield off the TV and then he's like well, what Andy. But you say about candy and turns back on TV, and then it's talking about how Halloween is tonight and how you're going to go trick or treating and get all the free candy and Garfield All I am like it's the best thing ever because Garfield, czar favorite fat cat who loves to eat all sorts of food. So he's super excited and goes into a song which is actually owned by Lou rawls and it's about how left-foot base oh, sweet if ever. With, good a trick or treat trek all trade. It's actually pretty funky song. But the only thing is I don't know if Garfield is like actually singing just like lip synching. Like, his mouth moves sometimes and sometimes it doesn't move or if the songs just like playing in his head and he's just like jam into with, that's what is supposed to be but I. Can Relate to 'cause I sing in jam all the time. So Garfield is like this is the best holiday ever Halloween because you don't to like deal with needles and all this crap, you just get candy and that's all it's all about it's like super simple. So he's like going back to sleep and wake up later and deal with our. Halloween. So later he wakes up and talks about getting candy. Handy, Handy. He's like super excited but first, he needs to find a costume and sacked carry his loads of Candy Candy. Candy, he crawls over with his blanket on his head and scares the crap out of his owner Jon Arbuckle who is carving Jack Lantern John Jumps and the Pumpkin like flies into the air and then falls on top of his head. Can I just say like the Pumpkin is already like the faces carved out into Jacqueline on already but he's pulling out the seeds which I didn't give. Vardi. He tells Garfield that he was covering a Jack Leonard and the Pumpkin is narrow and as he pulls it off his head towing throws it onto ody's head John, offers Garfield breakfast, which he originally declines but you know he's Garfield so he ends up taking all of it. was like a a little biscuit. Oh, maybe I'll have some croissant in bacon to you know what never mind take the whole thing. Jon arbuckle like has the biggest bitch face ever. He like is so done with Garfield Shenanigans that he just like constantly is like. Home by loves him, but yet doesn't like putting up his crap every now on them. So later, Garfield and Odie both managed to scare each other od than leaves and then Garfield kind of makes fun of him. But then Garfield realizes that if he takes Odie with him, he'll get twice the candy. So he starts putting his plan into motion and he tells Odie that all dogs have to help cats get candy on Halloween it's the law or something. And if we're good jobs done, the dog will get his own piece of candy at the end of the night. So they go up to the attic and look for some costumes and Garfield sings another song in his actual voice this time by trying on different costumes, they decided to be pirates at the end. Because you can be anything on. Halloween. So what should he be vampire or like a Cat A black cat which was kind of funny I. is a cash. But yeah, they're decided to be pirates and they got peg links. Already, has four and he ends up knocking all off. John thinks is really cute getting one sacks for the candy and before they leave, he tells them not to stay out too late. Of course, Garfield visas has lasagna while he's leaving. peg-leg. And is like Wooden Sword? Yeah. I mean I don't blame them. Amoco's sees that too. so, Johnson some off trick or treating, and they're just walking down the street by themselves. No parental supervision. Parents send them out on their own. Before like stranger danger and all that. But anyway, he's whimpering because he's a little scared Garfield like these are kids dressed up like there's nothing to be scared of, and he's like I'm not a scaredy cat enter more Lou rawls music and a song about how he's not a scaredy cat. So there are walking along and these leg I may be laser I'll maybe. But. No scare the gap. But he keeps like pulling off a ghost costume of a kid and then like sees the there's like no need or like pools off a mask of a Goblin, and then it's still has the Goblin base underneath the mask though like then they start screaming and so he really is a scaredy cat. So after the song the go trick or treating a different houses and I the lady gives him like one piece of candy and he's like I'm going to have to plunder your house if you don't give me some more candy and where I was thinking believe he's GonNa Slam the door and as she actually like ponies up the. Yeah. So they get a bunch of candy from about two houses and they're feeling good but Garfield wants more. So he's a little greedy for some more candy and as a Oh, there's a bunch of houses just across the river like let's go and at Marquette Candy and he finds a boat which he commandeered. So, they get the boat and of crossing the river, they end up going down river and Garfield all into his pirate per so none as like let go of orders. So does he just? There floating. River. Is Now just stuck going with the river. So they just had like downstream for like ever never I would be eating candy at this point because might as well die happy then get checked by John. I you know that's the rule. Might have drugs razor blades. Over there getting a Little Lake Oh God. What are we going to do in like middle depress out there just floating away when suddenly od barks and like look there's a mansion over there that they're heading up to this lack by all wrapped up. Pretty much. So this place has little dock so they pull up so they go up to the house and they're like looking in and they see a fireplace going and they don't see anyone there Garfield is like okay I'm good like Ben Vidor down and you're going to Russian and secure the place. He tries to kick the door down and just hurt his foot and he's like, okay we'll try to approach and he turns the DOORKNOB and it opened They go in and they don't think anyone's there. So the like okay. Let's just warm up by the fire and then suddenly there as a voice and they turn around and there's this creepy ass old dude he kind of looked like sloth from the goonies. But older I kind of appreciate the fact like it didn't look like a demon it seriously just look like a super old creevey man. Yeah. So of course, you have like a creepy story to go with his creepy persona. So, he's like, Oh did you know that I'm this island one hundred years ago on Halloween night there were some pirates and they had too much treasure I'm we're being pursued by the government like eighteen. So he's like they landed here in my stash their booty in the floorboards and tried to escape, but the government caught them but they swore a hundred years splitter on midnight of Halloween, but they would come back dead or alive to portrayed their treasure. They look at the clock and it's like five minutes a midnight, and then he's like I know what happened because they had a cabin boy and that was Mu Garfield is like I don't believe that and they're gonna go leave and then they look up and the old man is no longer in the chair. He come. K. and I'm like what the fuck he's like a hundred and ten how did he scurry out so fast and then they go to look out the window and he's like rolling off in the Damn Boat with their candy I mean like a he knew them when he'd be like, Hey, goes it's your cowboy. So, o'clock, tribes, midnight Garfield and Odie Watch. The ghostly ship materializes on the river by the pirate ghosts emerge on the dock Garfield not scrambled to find a place to hide before deciding on hiding in the cupboard Odi tried to hide in a flower pot and I. Wasn't working out for him too much I love. Odi they watched as the pirate ghosts bring the treasure chest from out under the floorboards before Odi Allison, has to sneeze which he does and then the ghost are alerted to their presence. Maybe, then see us within the ghost like those the. Cabinet. Oh, crap. So the goes chase them and Garfield Odie run towards the dock and they ended up jumping in the river and they get swept away by the current. Field realizes he can't. And he almost drowns but only save Sam and then pulls him to the shore and then they see their boat there with the candy still intact. Thank God because that's all he cared. The old man had some Jhangvi asked heat. So he couldn't risk it I. Guess so Garfield Odie head home, and they're happy that they got their candy back. Garfield gives Odi one of the stacks of candy dimly yeah. Because he saved his. Life and he feels like that's the right thing to do even though he doesn't really want to Garfield turn on the TV and then sees the same old man from before with Garfield Spirit had that he lost and he's hosting all night pirate movie festival. Garfield. Abruptly turns off the TV and goes to bed and that's the end of the episode. So thoughts on the episode, anything can happen on Halloween? That's for next week. Old Man can turn into a private I. It was Q. I was really distracted by the fact that Garfield mouth and move a lot of the time when he was talking but I guess because he's a cat. Yeah. So be maybe. Monologue yes. I haven't seen Garfield friends and years. So I don't know if that was the same on that show or not I kind of. Like in the musical numbers but I'm called the best Halloween special ever. AMAS. Cute for what it was put that on kids stole enjoyed. It's a little scary I. Guess for Little Kids but lay her eight or seven. It's not that scary. Like did I probably. The Golf. I got the funky James. Garfield funny. You know he's a fat cat. He kinda makes fun of himself but he's just like I'm Sassy and that's just how I am I heard, you want to move on to the brain basement. We'll share some of our Halloween stories. All right. Welcome to the brain basement. We're going to talk a little bit about Garfield, our favorite Halloween Candy and costumes. Another Halloween things I love Garfield is kid I had like the flashy that I think my aunt gave me and they have the first book that had the like comic strips it and stuff we're Italian. So we'd love lasagna plus. Yeah I love watching Garfield and friends a lot when I was a kid it's all the shenanigans and I liked his Sassy nece on like normal thermal was like I'm a super keep ball of yeah. Who could do no wrong just Kinda dopey. He's cute. Yeah. ODY's cute and he knows what's up some of the time, but he just likes being himself. He just marches to the beat of his own drum and I like thicker field with Sassy all that kind of stuff but moving along to some Halloween stuff. Okay. What's your favorite Halloween Candy probably snickers or? The REECE's different seasonal ones are super good like the Pumpkins. Yeah and things. But unlike there were certain candies, you only really got on columbine like the tootsie rolls that were like the different flavors. So I love those. Like the little ones I like all the flavors. I felt like back. Then you only get like milk duds. Walkers yeah. Like I really get those on Halloween but then you get like Shit you want either I didn't really like the little league dumb them while. And Lake Dots. Yeah. Some people give you like black licorice and shit like what? What's wrong with you sweethearts they were bad but they won't my favorite. You're right. I could deal with them but I didn't really like the super sugary like smarties and sweet tarts where my favorite. Bounds to my mom because I don't like coconut. So those all once my. Kids coconut first of all. I would give something my dad but I guess as an adult you realize that people just buy whatever they like. So let whatever's leftover. When I think of Baby Ruth Halloween Candy's air minds me of the earthquake. Oh, because we got in nineteen nine, we had a big earthquake here in the bay area and my mom had already bought some Halloween candy and that night of the earthquakes I remember sitting under the table I remember we eat like Barney cereal. Yeah. I, remember the Barbie Cereal and then we had some like Halloween candles to that we like. Yeah. electrcity power went out and then I remember having some fun size day routes from. So. Whenever I Think of Halloween, and they think of the earthquake. which was on October seventeenth. So it was close to Halloween. Okay how about favorite Halloween costume I have a couple of favorites. One was I dressed up as back girl when I was in the third grade that was eighty nine would have been the year of Batman Yeah but I just up like sixties background, but it didn't look like how her costume was. It was just like blue and had like the little cow on. Staff and it was really cute like our neighbor across the street had made it for me, and then another one of my favorites was restore bought but I still love when I was in the fifth grade. I was Sherlock Holmes and had like little glasses and like a little fake pipe and stuff and I love that I'm a mystery lovers. So what about you? I think one of my favorite ones was like I did a bride of Frankenstein one. Oh, I, remember that I don't know I just really liked the like it was like a white dress. Just really liked it. Also I remember when you and me dress up as witches and our mom macy's cool capes with like the. Had Lake some bats and stuff? It was like Red Cassatt knee material with like bats and moon stuff on it. Yeah. Li lived really close to our elementary school like just down the block. So our mom would take us out and let us change into our Halloween costumes at lunch and like go back from like when they'd have the like Halloween parade. That's all you would have like the first half of the school day would be like regular school and then like it would be lunchtime and like your parents can pick you up and you can go home and change in your costume and then the second half of the day we'd have. In our classroom, and then we'd have like Halloween parade where like all the kids would like March around the school yard in their costs. All the parents would be there like taking pictures and stuff, and so that was our fun Halloween Memories. Yeah. So now let's move on to our music spotlight. We'll be doing some creature features songs. All right. Welcome term music spotlight where today's topic is creature feature songs, which is basically a different Hollywood monsters. So number one, we picked a was cliff Richard's devil woman. says. She. added. She's just a devil well. With the Rolonda Matt She's Well. Ma his coming catch. Love it. The song reminds me of the young ones because the character rick played by Rik. Mayall who I, love r.i.p his character loved cliff Richard and he would always say like cliff Richard Things, and it's really elevate show. I. Moving onto number two, which is Alex Cooper the mapfre against. Him. The. The song reminds me of Wayne's world because he sings this in the movie if when they go to the concert and it's really funny and it's a good Song Alice Cooper to number three is a little obscure song but I put it on because I it's a group called electric guitars and their songs called Wolf Band tap. and. And this is like a funky little song that's about both men and tap dancing pretty much. It's got like a cool group too I really like number four is lady Gaga and some show me not. Don't know. Shit Taglay. Just just said. About my bad. May told me. Gallo Direction. Direction. Just. Bam. The. Cheap, which we could represent ME EMPIRES AND DRACULA GOES. Up back girl. Mean show me your teeth never five is one of my favorite Bam that I've been waiting to put on one of these lists and here's the chance because it's the seventies British punk band slash ads goth band the damned with Dr Jekyll, and Mr Hyde. Tribes. I'm no allowed. Sad He's evil and. I'm Dr Jekyll. Land. He's missed a hat a love songs from the blackout which came out in one thousand, nine hundred and I love the Dan David Indians his own vampire. Love Him. Love this girl. It's great and our mention we actually have to this week because why not? Because we felt like it. Says, you can't have a creature feature. Without having the classic Bobby, Boris Pickett and the crypt keepers with Monster Mash. The night with my. Speed. And My monster from his slab. To my surprise. Graveyard Smash. Did the mash it caught on in a flash did the. MOMS, Damalf, were. Little Solomon's a mess. I mean it's great and then our second hour will mention is one of my favorite K pop damn. It's only favorite. As, a wonderful K pop band. Big Bang with their song. Monster. Milk. Data. Mental Love you. A monster this was a jam and the videos like really. Yeah top my boo look at our fierce with Cave Geedi Day Sung with once leaving some bondage straps. Need I say, more with the Sushi. I Love it. Good Times and that's it for music spotlight. If you want to check out these songs and full, you can check him out on our website. Thanks for joining us for another spectacular week in October. Next week we'll have more Halloween fun and we hope you enjoy if you WANNA leave any spooky comments for her you can email us at spunky end snarky show at gmail.com could check us out on our website, which is spunky snarky show dot wordpress dot com, and you can leave us a voice message on our anchor pages inker dot com slash spunky snarky show. We also have facebook instagram and twitter if you want to reach us through their also thanks again for listening and have a good week and we'll see next time. Yeah. Feel free to reach out don't be a creeper. Halloween. Wash, it will be soon. So we'll see you next week.

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Wonderful! Ep. 57: Gooey for Garfield

Rose Buddies

48:54 min | 2 years ago

Wonderful! Ep. 57: Gooey for Garfield

"Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello. This is Griffin McElroy wonderful. You're very good at that. I'm just so excited, babe. My voice is starting to come back. It's lovely who's in the car. And I was with my Masan, and we listened to Gand tiger. Which is what I call being because we're very close singing songs, and I realized I can I can sort of hang with the time again when the striped one must drive, bro. So I was learning about what happens when you spill mommy's milk and just singing along just nice moments does happen while you first you say, I'm sorry. That's the first step. Then what can I make it better bed or right? That's good. And so the first person song is like, I spill my milk. I told my mom sorry. And then I asked what I can do to help to me that seems like a weird relationship between the child and mother right because it's like spilled my milk. Sorry. It should be like spent my milk. I'm very sad. You fix it. Yes. Not anymore Griffin. We're trying to raise our young men. A real Dan tiger to be self reliant. Yes. Okay. This is for nobody. But you, and I this is for nobody. But me, and you, but anyway, do you have any small wonders for the week? Gosh, there's so much good stuff on net flicks. There's a lot of good stuff. Yeah. There's a lot of good stuff on Netflix right now. I don't know. This is one of your things in that flexing. It is not we're currently watching the new Sabrina show and loving showing adventures of Sabrina is fantastic. As to like people who shamefully watch Riverdale? It's nice to watch show that is very similar, but I don't feel ashamed to watch. Because it's actually pretty good. It's got some of that big Riverdale energy. But like nothing. Not like as much for sure. Not too much. You got anything else? I wanna talk about videogame cook. 'cause I don't have any alad for this energy fast. Okay. I told you about it a little bit. It's called the return of the Ober din. It's from a guy named Lucas pope who made papers, please. And basically you are on a ship. And it's a wreck ship that has resurfaced had a crew of sixty people all of them are dead. And you are an insurance agent in the early nineteenth century who has a magic pocket watch that they can use to go to the exact moment. Like a freeze frame moment of each crew member's death, and using that you have to identify who each crew member is using those moments, and then you have to figure out how they died and you have to figure out who killed them. Have you told her brothers about this? Oh, yeah. This is like both of their shits paro. It's the best detective game every play because you get like a little clip. Sometimes like us the pocket watch and cuts to black. And then you hear like a little bit of audio, and it can be like you kill my brother. And then you know, that like the person who is killing them has a brother, so they're going to have the same last name in the manifest. So then you have to go back and other scenes and see who that guy killed because that's their brothers. Those two are brothers. Now. You kind of know who they like it's like a big game against who. Also presented like an old MacIntosh game. Like, it looks all dot it's just like two colors, just black and white dot matrix. It's fucking great. It is so good. I'm always your favorite guests who character while we're talking. I think what I don't know if I remember Claud. Yeah. Are you making that up? No. I can't picture him. I can't either. It's the only name I can remember. But I think you go first this week. I do what you got. It's funny actually that you bringing up singing along with Dante Oberdan, you're and be like my first thing is a haunted shoes. Now, it's musical ability musical thought, you're trying to say that in like one where I thought second to realize musical ability was two words musicality that you were saying musicality. The little three year old. Yeah. Yeah. No. I I was thinking about some of the things that I find attractive in person. Sure. And I thought about some of the things that I find attractive, and you and one of those. One of those. Is your musical ability. Yeah. Thank you. Or you name. I mean, you know. You're winking ability. Really to wink, I'm trying so hard. Yeah. Thank you. That's nice to hear. I mean Griffin. Not all of this Griffin can sing he can play an instrument. See what it is in my feel better. That's that's not one of my small wonders. That's not one one day. I'm going to graduate from Daniel tiger music gonna be so fucking site. Because then it means I can listen to whatever I want in a car for a while. And then now I feel like. Yeah. I was getting caught up on the table. And Henry was like, I don't actually want rich world building. I wanna hear tiger tiger things about spilling their milk and feeling bad about it. Well, you breath on yourself Griffin. I'm sorry. Yes. Yes. I I will say so I recognize that this interest. I have is not unique that a lot of folks enjoy people that can sing plants. Sure. So I did some research to see like is what is this phenomenon? Like have scientists ever looked at like why this is such a big thing? Why music get horny is basically typed into Google Google music. Get horny. Uh-huh. Question Mark wish wash monk. And then you ask Jeeves, and he was like, I don't know. Let me Google kids today. Even get the genes reference. Probably not brawling on. Geez. Was an old Butler. That was the thing he will come to your house. You would yell. Certain key words at him. He would go to the library. It would come back. Six days later. There's your answer may be pop culture. So they're actually have been studies on this. Okay. And I kept finding over and over again is a study done at the university of the NFL. It was a twenty seventeen study of seventy two participants mostly university students, and they invest investigated the impact of musical exposure on the evaluations of faces. Whoa. So they wanted to find out if win participants looked at faces while they listened to music whether that change there. Feeling about that person. Okay. So they did short twenty five second experts of romantic Eropean amusing played as images work hued up. And so and they did this with a variety of women at various stages in their cycles. Okay. So kind of where they were at in there for Tilleke cycle and men also and the women regardless of where they were at and their cycle. Rated the men as more attractive if they had heard music, regardless of whether the music was pleasant or unpleasant. Really, okay. Hold on that last bit is wild. They could be listened to fuck in grunge course, cream medals. So we're talking about like Brahms Chopin. We're not talking about like, okay? You know, the the Mets even while. They're that the studies like not one of Chopin's shittier ship. Chopin's real clunkers. The results showed that female participants rated the male faces is more attractive, and we're more willing to date the men when previously exposed to music. What about the reverse though, men had no impact it says the men opinions of the females were not affected by music? Okay. Well, we have lots of other ways of get horny. I guess that. You don't that's weird though that it doesn't work in the definitely also think it's it's it's an attractive trait. Yeah. I'm not sure I'm not sure it said that overall highly stimulating and complex music led to the greatest affect compared to the control condition. But this is just like listen to music doesn't necessarily have to be coming from the the lead. Interesting think about yes, is that maybe it's not about the musician playing the music or performing all the fact that you are hearing it while you are seeing that has so it's like when you walk into my office, and I press play on the demo mode on the keyboard and. I pretend like I'm really rattled as land works, and you just like just. Just go Gooby, go home. Oh my God. Tell me right now at at that out. No, let's go with it. It's not fine. Yes. I mean, obviously, you see this a lot in movies and television in reality shows. Yeah. When they are editing the scene to make you kind of buy in more, they will play music in the background. And it just it made me think a lot about especially when they said like, regardless of the quality of music. Yeah. How when you're like in junior high and every male got like, every male friend. You have that like plays shitty. Guitar, and you just think like all that. So cool. I doesn't necessarily matter. How good they are. Yeah. There is music plane while you in their presence. That's really interesting. It's funny. Also because I've been taking piano lessons, and my teacher has been having me focus on my fingerling. So it's good on. Sorry. But many think about like some of the moments in our relationship where I've fell kind of like like this kind of interest in you know, like we met during a music show. Yes. And we spent a lot of the time in our initial cart ship in in musical settings. Yeah. And then, you know, anytime ac- karaoke. I went a little bit. When we were first courting we were in a community theater. Production of noises off. And. Musical noises officer. I don't think so well all the musicals you coulda pulled from. No, I was trying to think of one that was obscured. The fantastic's we were in a sort of Broadway revival. That's weird. Anyway, it's it's obviously something that a lot of people are into. Yeah. I know my grandma always would tell the story about my grandpa was her panel teacher. Yeah. And that was kind of how she developed feelings for him. He got he was so good. So good. Do you want on my first thing? Guess I wanna say something. Okay. I know a lot of people don't do not like it when the weekend ends Monday rolls around. Okay. Because you know, saying to get back to work. I feel like I am as they have to put on big boy closing in office. Other people I feel like. We are in a stage. Now, our son is like very active learning how to deal with. How to keep up with them? You saying you love Mondays in a way. Like when Monday rolls around. I mean, I'm also like excited like, you know, start like my my creative like week, right? Just like cranking out the making the doughnuts. So I like Mondays. But that is the only way in which I am different from Garfield because I fucking love lasagna. Lasagna's my subject this week sorta roundabout way. Oh, you really took me on a journey there Griffin. I'm not going to fuck and whole bit about Monday's. Loved mondays. And I was going to get on you because your Monday is very different than most people's Mundus is true. But lasagna, my lasagna's, not different from. Well. Maybe it is there's lots of different types of on you used to not like was on you. And while it was a textural thing. Right. You're just putting a big just a big floppy noodle. I've had some bad lasagna. See I don't necessarily know that if have bad baggy gets all slippery. Sometimes if you don't use the right cheeses or the right ratio. We'll say that is the only bad lasagna where if it doesn't bind necessarily right if it's not thick enough sauce. If it gets like watery and that can happen. If you try to put like many vegetables in it, which is real healthy and use like low fat recorded announced not good. So I used to just like I used to not like it because the texture now I Mike all about it. I also didn't like it because it was like so much. It was so much lasagna's on something you eat as much as something. At you that you confront it's like a it's like a deep dish pizza. But without the crust. It is it's it's an object to conquer. Lasagna is a quest and I'm super into right now. Because it's so like, I find myself really into like hardy foods stick to your ribs foods like like an old lumberjack or something. I just like food that kinda sticks around with you. And I also now kind of Meyer this over, and I used to be fettuccini Alfredo with you know. Me too man now that cream gets to me bad. But also the amount of work required to fuck in spear a bunch of noodles twirl up good cut him. So this not too big by get like a piece of the chicken some of the brockley get enough of the sauce on it. And it the time you've done that. I've eaten a whole brick of the whole kilo. Uncut shit to the real shit on. So the reason you prefer lasagna to like a pasta afraid o- situation just because you can eat it faster. Not just fast. It's an energy expended. If I'm chasing fettuccini all around the bowl, that's way. Stifle lasagna's not going fucking anywhere. You stab your formula Zahn yet stabs back? It will outlive you. And I like that about his you stat it's like so fucking. What are you going to be up in fettuccini? No, please, please. I got kind of like the Dairy Queen blizzard of ice cream. You know, you turn lasagna upside down, it just stays there. It's so dope. I like the good stuff at like fancy restaurants. Really nice lasagna. I had it for my concilium or I had to show off that I had all the eating skills. I wish I could've seen you it until you dropped holes. Awesome. My pants, and I. Myself to the bathroom to try and. And I did I did a very good job. I like the Stouffer shit. We had that last night. That's what brought it to mind. I was eating it this afternoon for lunch. And I thought man I do like lasagna, and I was sitting here looking at empty word pad doctors. Hey here comes some lasagna notes. So this thought to have come from Naples? It's a I like instance of it came in a fourteenth century cookbook. It called for a fermented dough flattened into thin sheet boiled sprinkled with cheese and spices and eaten with the use of a small pointed stick wait was this before pasta was this before forks is the question because that's very two forks come about fermented dough with a pointed stick. Yeah. I mean, it had cheese and spices, and it was thin sheet. Okay. And you boiled it, and that's pretty close kind of. So the traditional is there's different types of lasagna. There's two main camps as far as I can tell there's the stuff that we eat. Which is lasagna four no, which is has like a Ragu sauce tomato sauce, and like Abeche melt cheese some sort of flesh cheese flash on top of it. And that's that's lasagna four no the traditional lasagna from from Naples lasagna D, And I'm gonna fuck this up Karna valley valley. I don't I can't carnival is on you. Yeah. It's fans for carnival is on you. It's got sausage and candy. So it's. It's got those little foam peanuts. It has local sausage small fried, meatballs, hard, boiled, eggs, Ricarda and mozzarella cheese sauce with a Neopolitan Ragu. A meat sauce got eggs up in there. I'm mom. All it Tristan. Yeah. We'll be into that. And yeah, I just like, you know, also like about his Anya. It is the only thing in the university gets me excited about a side salad because when you are taking your way out of the fuck in lasagna cave of wonders from the inside out, and you get I get tired tired fight. And that's on you. Then the last like, the the what I wanna reach for is a nice little area. Green or lightweight treat. You know what I'm what I'm trying to trying to get through zone. You harding. I wanna over. I wanna get some some. When I'm when I'm watching you want you to be a food critic more than anything in the whole world. I think I'd good do. Pretty good salad was airy wet leaves. Hey, do you wanna know why Garfield likes those Anya because it's really good? No. There's a reason from an interview that Jim Davis deal. Yes. I do joke setup. I know it sounded like one, I know like this is from a Huffington Post article light Garfield Davis is a fan of lasagna. Yeah. Quote. Yeah. I love Liz. Tim Davis speaks as if he work our field himself. I feel like I could see a t shirt with Jim Davis face on it. That says. Yeah. Not like fucker loathed lasagna you love lasagna. Sure. I haven't finished. Jim Davis, quote, you have to allocate. I'm sorry. Yeah. I love lasagna. I thought it would be funny to have a cat who likes lasagna? But as it turns out, I hear from people all the time that their cats love lasagna. And he confessed this goes on not germane. But I thought it was so wild any confess that even though John loves ODI to Garfield is favorite because of the depth of their relationship. He confides quote because of the deputy relationship he can quote, he confides in Garfield so much, and I think John may have a little masochistic problem. He enjoys the abuse that Garfield heaps up. you Jim who can. Low wild in their brain cage years there. Jake sounds like John's little gooey for Garfield. I mean, that's the episode title. All right. So can I steal you away? Yes. The to boop. Boop. Beep, beep, beep, beep, boop, booze. Nice. Thank you. I'm really moving away from the home team pretty good. And I think that because we've sort of gone of all of the meat off the fair, use bones. And but anyway, hey, can I tell you all about blue apron? Yes, it is. It's one of those soft things you put over yourself for when you get the Ragu sauce, and you don't wanna get an on your new shirt that you got from your dad Griffin. That's not right. No. It's company for food boxes. Yes. It's a mailing food box company to your house. This is again like playing balderdash. No, they're amazing. 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My second thing is also Halloween related. Okay. Funds candidates. Are so good though. They're so good count for fun size sort of all candy. I think so Byun a teacher gave me a fun size skittles door of will I go to this because he did so well on your fingering. Yes. And the the next student after me is like four I have no like pretension about it. Then choose like, please take some Halloween candy. I was like how you I took one. And I took a jolly rancher lollipop too. But the funds you get the fun size sicklets. There's just like three of them in there. And you just like put it in your teeth and. Just like a shooter. Fuck. Yeah. Let's always kind of let me down because I want them to be like Eminem's, but they are not like Eminem's line Kamara anyway. Sorry. Did you know how recent fund size candy bars are pick a decade seventies? Okay. Well, it's nineteen sixty one. Oh, okay. That's recent to me, I think I don't think people had fun until the nineteen sixties fair. So that tracks to me in nineteen sixty one Mars introduced miniature snack or tiny candy bar sold in bags specifically to hand out trick or treaters the term fund size was coined in nineteen sixty eight and the first fun size candies. Available were Snickers and Milky Way. And then later on three musketeers in Eminem's still holding imminent and see that was a good innovation. I wonder how they did it back in the day. I wonder what funds Eminem's looked like back in the day because I don't think they had the will envelope. A little whatever that material is because it's not quite paper. And it's not quite plastic credible. Fun size was used exclusively by Mars until the Curtiss candy company started using its for its Halloween versions of baby Ruth and butterfinger cool Mars unsuccessfully sued in nineteen seventy two. I mean, can I say something seem copyright fund size fits in reference to your small, candy bars. And somebody says, oh, we also do the funds like if I opened up a coffee shop can I start selling like Vinci and. Can you can you trademark fun? Can you trademark size? I guess how would you trademark fun size? Yeah. I don't know. It's interesting. And so this led me to look up king-size. Oh interesting which originally labeled cigarettes in nineteen thirty nine the American Tobacco company. Repackaged pall malls as a longer cigarette called king size, which is now the standard length. One long cigarettes took two days. And then coq introduced the now standard twelve ounce king sized bottle in ninety five. Oops. I love how these all. Standard sizes now. King. I'm gonna say that next time about the the Bodega. Can I get a king size sprite? Which led to king sized cars dodge came out with a oh my God, y'all size car in nineteen fifty six get it. And then freezers and frozen food and hamburgers became king size. Okay. Was there like one day where man took a look at the destruction. He hath wrought. And then everybody in every industry simultaneously. Agreed. Like, this is all just the normal size. Now. And then in the in the fifties is when the beds went king-size two. Oh, wow. Really? Okay. That one is surprising because that one seems like. Substantial to me like a candy bar link. Doesn't seem like it matters as much to me, but like a bed size like changes your whole shit. So the king size candy bar seems to have come about not until nineteen eighty Hershey released something called the big block. And this was just a Hershey bar. I'm guessing it was just a very large Hershey bar. That's easy. I could make a fucking very long large Hershey bar, you give me thirty Hershey bars, and you know, a lighter and a paper clip will make a big Hershey bar. No problem. So here's the thing. Yeah. I found a lot of articles on diff the favorite candies by state. Oh, wow. I didn't even think about that. And then also five thirty eight dot com, which you know is like Nate silver's. Big polling website, also generated the top five matchups. So they had matchups of candy versus candy and over eight thousand people voted. The number one. Halloween, candy is there. I'm going to guess, and let me give you so they matched one candy up against another and had people vote that way. Okay. So it was kind of like our thanksgiving Assode where we match one food up against another. So that's how the number one was not just candy bars. Right. Like all candy, right? Yes. Okay. Because what I what I think is number one is not a candy bar. Okay. Let me say receives peanut butter Cup. You are correct. Yes. But it was a close one. And here's what's interesting. Eighty four point two percent reese's peanut butter Cup. Eighty one point nine percent receives miniatures. Okay. What's what is? What is recent a little ones? That's a fucking designer victory for peanut butter cups because at one twice. Well, Twix got eighty one point six it's a fuck outta here. Twix nobody eats those for health wing. Twins. They're great. But nobody gets them for Halloween. Do that's clown shoes. You get the one little bar, which it's strays the entire purpose of Twix the holding about Twix two of them. That's the only thing. It's the caramel cookie. Crunch only two star crunch if I want all that kick cap seventy six point eight percents makers seventy six point seven. Okay. So. Do you have thoughts on the top candy for your state for mine Virginia 'cause it's something weird? I don't think so I'm gonna say. Milkyway? No that was actually the top candy for Missouri, though. Okay. 'cause I know we love nougat West Virginia, and this is from people dot com article. Apparently, there's a website candy store dot com that in two thousand seventeen ranked candies by collecting ten years of Halloween sales data for every state. That's a fun study. The tap candy for West Virginia was blow pops blow FOX I can buy that. God, I love a blow pop. Illinois, New York both sour patch kids. California Eminem's, Texas starburst. Seems made up. I mean, you know, there's one thing I know about Texas. Maybe it's the Texas star. People like sweet chewy Steph. Yeah. Me, I know. Well, take it up with candy store dot com. Okay. So America currently spends an estimated two point seven billion on candy this time of year. That's a lot. Okay. And so this led me to think in this is my final tangent. Yeah. What were they giving out before the fun size candy? Exactly. And that's what I wanna get into. Yeah. I think it was like little chocolates wrapped in foil like a little chocolate wrapped in foil that looks like a pumpkin they're handing out fucking neck. Oh wafers, and they were handing out a wax lips and toothpaste and bullshit, you're not too far off so from history dot com. When retreating started in the nineteen, thirties and forties. Children's were children's children's children were given homemade cookies and pieces of cake or fruit or nuts coins? Into his goal in the nice win nineteen thirties and forties. They hadn't they hadn't invented murder yet back then they hadn't invented poison didn't come about until late. Okay. Wow. In the fifties candy manufacturers began to promote their products for Halloween. But it wasn't until the nineteen seventies. That wrapped factory-made candy was viewed as the only acceptable thing to hand out. Yes. Yes. Yes. God. Yes is good. There's something kind of satisfying and inherently wasteful about opening a bunch of individually wrapped candy. Sure, just like looking at your pile of leavings. Yeah. But I'm at a point where the portion I crave and require is fun size. Exactly. I feel the same way. I get excited because it scratches the itch without committee you to a very large portion literally any any bar. I brought up a Milky Way. God, I love Milkyway, really cries me. Because I I mean Snickers get 'cause there's like full peanuts in their Milky Way. It's like the new stuff in the Carmel. I dunno good. But but I take one bite of the Milky Way. Oh, I'm in heaven. I take a second bite in the Milky Way. And you're done, and it's pretty good. I don't want any more of the Milky Way. Just eating a lot of new good. That's fair. Did you fistful nougat? That's fair. Yeah. So. Man. I'm I really want to eat a lot of fucking candy right now me too. It's so difficult to make it through the season without just wanting to get through a lot of candy. I know I think tomorrow is gonna be a real cheap day. Okay. Can I tell you about my second thing? Yes. TV show. Okay. See if you can guess what it is. I'm gonna try into the introduction to the TV show. Like when it comes on as the first thing you see in here. I wanna see if you can figure out what it is. You already gave me kind of a hint because you said it was Halloween related. Yeah. They'll take. Oh, are you free the dark as dark those a perfect impression perfect? I was so into this show and still am even though I haven't watched it in a while. I got as a Christmas present like a bunch of bootleg DVD's of are you afraid of the dark awhile ago, or maybe just in Travis it, I just remember watching a lot of are you afraid of the dark around the holiday season dip into the highlights and it totally holds up. I'm like a lot of early children's programming from that era. I looked up a lot of stuff about are you afraid was so incredible. Like it was so good. When I think back on it like the performances from the kids or so good, and like the storylines option value. It's also good. I keep almost saying. Like Nick went deep on this one. Actually, this show did not originate at Nickelodeon. Ooh. Is it Canadian citizens? It is deeply Canadian is completely Canadian as from a Canadian. It's clearly. From kids television network in Canada called white TV came on there. I think in like nineteen ninety when it aired. And then like one season Nickelodeon was like we got to have this. And it was added to this snick lineup in nineteen Ninety-two ran for five seasons. And then they brought it back like turn of the millennia like nine hundred ninety nine two thousand for two more seasons with new cassocks for one of the kids came back because reprising role and this show if you've never seen it like, I don't know man like I feel like horror TV shows are super big right now and have been for the last few few years. You got your what's the new one haunting of hill house just on that flakes? There's American horror story before there was American horror story, there was a horror anthology series. So important, I'm not talking about goosebumps. The goose bumps TV show is but wild too by the way, but it is a whole different kettle of fish. No, I'm talking about. Are you free of the dark? It was so good. And I don't think like it's such a like bold addition right because Knicks like the snick lineup had at certain points. You know could blame. Hey Arnold in like the live action department. It had all that. It had Alex Mack jomie me. It didn't have anything like terrifying. And they were like, let's add a children's horror show to to fun Saturday night lineup. There's something almost like there was an element of danger to it because you're staying up late on Saturday night and watching horror stories that I was like so fucking into. And there are two things. I remember primarily about this show. Like one two things I remember really really liking about it. The first thing was the framing device of the midnight society. If you've never seen the show before every episode opened up with this group of kids and teens that would come around this campfire this secluded little forest clearing where they had a little little hideout. They would start a campfire. And then one of them would be the storyteller for that night. They would say submitted for the approval of the midnight society, and then they'd reach into a bag and throw the midnight dust into the fire title would appear. Do you know what that dust was? I feel like I've talked about this about this is coffee, Creamer, non dairy, Creamer. Yeah. Apparently has like petroleum in it jeeze does not great. I just loved like the stories were great, the horror stories were awesome. But like I really wanted to be in the midnight society. Every kid did this show dabbled in their lives and relationships occasionally, sometimes like their relationships bled into the stories that they told there is one episode where there were two brothers in the midnight society one of them like stole the older ones love poem. So the older one till the horror story where like the younger kid was tormented for being a brat, and then he like apologized at the end of the episode. It also every episode ins with them, you know, talking about the moral of the story or whatever. And then putting the fire out or playing like a scary prank on each other. It just seemed like a cool group of friends who had this awesome thing going on show like as I'm listening to you describe it could have been so bad. Oh, so many opportunities for it to have not been good show. Yeah. Very much was. I mean, if you go back, I'm sure there's a lot of episodes that do not hold up necessarily as well where the stories aren't as crisp and the acting. I mean, you're talking about, you know, child actors, it's it's not going to be a hit one hundred percent in time. But it's so. Oh, like, I don't know. There's something so brave about this show. It was just it was like that Pete. And Pete era of just like beaten Pete all day on the mountain for like that show was good on every. Yeah. Just like children being like kind of children, you know, like being kids in a way the fell like not performance of. And now, it was very authentic. There was I don't want to be old man yells at cloud. But like there was something about Nick culture in those days, where they were creating the culture that young followed instead of like chasing, it isn't that crazy to think that there was a network on cable television. That was just like it just had the kids attention twenty four hours a day. Yes. Like, I don't know that that really cysts anymore. Oh, it doesn't it doesn't. And that's why when we we turn on MTV. Why did we have TV? I think we just had it on. On. And there was a show on a reality show about to show people who like, hey, teach other who designed twos for each other that they then have to get on their bodies forever and like holy shit. I'm totally an old manuals cloud territory, but that's objectively fucking awful. That is not necessarily has anything to do with this. Okay. There was the second thing that I remember loving about this show. There's a second thing that I remember in general that this show, and then it was legitimately very scary. I was looking at some of the stories turn like refresh my memory 'cause there are definitely like two or three standout. I wanted to see like what are the most agreed upon like scariest ones? There's the one where the girl is like like trapped in a house with the girl in the mirror who writes helped me backwards and all the walls like that one. I remember there's a kid who get stuck in the pinball game. That's like in the mall that one I really really scared me. Some of them had like dark twisted endings a lot of them resolve. And we're like. Like. Dracula. But a lot of them were like and now you're trapped in my box forever. Okay. So there's three that I wanted to point out. I is the tale of the frozen ghost or Melissa Joan Hart is in this one. She plays a babysitter. And she's sort of haunted by this young dead. Boy, who has like out in the woods and appears cold you. Remember that one? Oh, I do. Now that you mention that. But I. A lot of what you're describing. I don't remember. Okay. But I do remember that you remember that I say that to try to scare them like your kids like hide around the corner and say, I'm cold. It got him every fucking. There was I mean Zebo the clown. Anytime you get him in the mix. It's going to be about. Tale of laughing in the dark that one. I think is is I turn number one this one we actually did watch recently. I think it was when we got those DVD's is swimming pool. Tale of the dead man's float is the kid trying to learn how to swim from another kid only inside of the pool is a monster. That kills kids by drowning them and then at one point the monster. Appears in is way too scary for the television show. He's like a blood skeleton with like veins hanging off of them, and he drowns kids. And it's bogging scary that one that one definitely number one. But like that's wild that this blood skeleton was on after you know, after after Pete and p like you watch the episode where he's trying to, you know, get the marshmallow out of his nose. And there's a blood skeleton on fifteen minutes later, I I love old snick because like a lot of risks like that. And it was like. It was the thing that you talked about in school the next two days from then. And are you afraid of the dark was just a big part of that? And I I just I when I think back on it. I Mayer it just a whole lot. Yeah. We have to check and see if those were on YouTube. They are we found bug juice on there, which I love for similar reasons. Hey, can I tell you what our friends at home are into? Yes. Oh. And can you give that Email address? Yes. It is wonderful bag has said she meal dot com. This emissions have been slowing down a little bit. 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Golden Knights, NHL players stop the game

Golden Edge - Vegas Golden Knights Hockey

31:31 min | 11 months ago

Golden Knights, NHL players stop the game

"This is Greg Olsen here to tell you about my new podcast. T one on the show I had a chance to talk to my fellow tight ends who have revolutionized the position from an extra lyman to a dual threat superstar and just like my guests have changed the game this year NFL Sunday ticket dot. Is Revolutionizing your NFL viewing experience stream all the live out of market NFL Games every Sunday on your favorite devices and never miss a moment from your favorite players. Visit NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV and use the Promo Code Greg Eight at checkout and get fifteen percent off your subscription. That's NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV, and the Promo Code Greg eight subscribe to t e one and NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV and unmatched dual threat. What is a fan? This is the Golden. The podcasts were the Las Vegas Review Journal. Actually talk about hockey. We talk about a lack of hockey. We're recording a special episode you guys today because the Golden Knights, along with the other seven remaining NHL playoffs teams decided not to play yesterday as well as of course, not play today. The NHL Playoffs are going to resume on Saturday after the NHL players decided to lay down the station above as a sign of protest against Injustice police brutality things like that after the way of the Kenosha Wisconsin Shooting Jacob Blake by police or trying to walk through the decision today what the players thought process was I understand as per usual talk though is you such as this including when Ryan Robin Lender, Tyler Sagan and Jason Dixon just Neil by these are you know controversial topics for lack of a better word they certainly? Can Rile people up but understand once again, we're going to try to. You know just give you the facts in terms of what the player said, what the players are thinking and ultimately where they hope to go from here before we get into all that I want to remind everyone that the Golden Age cast is presented by Sunday ticket deal in a favorite drink dot com also check out all our work on this Topic Review Journal of course. The Las, Vegas Review Journal Abbas story up on the website today our main story. Done by calling on the other line David Shaney and then our own ingredients columnist wrote a column just kind of going through how you. Back that yesterday it was certainly a historic day for the NHL came one day after. Day and a lot of other sports leagues in the NHL is kind of leading from behind once again. So with all that out of the way Dave, talk you about all this stuff again just I mean for you what was your? Reaction to rally yesterday as you know, we saw playoff games being played Wednesday night out of the NBA decided not to play, and then all of a sudden in yesterday morning Thursday reporting us in price just newest slowly starting to trickle out that something seemed to be with the Shell. I mean I might be a little bit in the minority on this to be quite honest but I think they handled it. As well as they could I, I mean. I. I empathize a little bit with them in terms of they're getting to the rink there. Not Quite aware of what's going on there. They're being told probably this that other things. And I'm sure they'd like to make an informed decision. and. That's really what this all comes down to in in players of talked about this, you know right from the start. That it's about listening and learning educating themselves in. I'm kind of on the side of all this that they took a moment. They assess the situation and said, what's the right move for US going forward in? If that took them a little bit of extra time you know then then so be it because I feel like they got it right? I feel like yesterday what we saw. With those players walking into that room and standing in solidarity. The way that they did was an image that none of the other leagues of have produced. It's the most powerful image I think we've seen from, you know from this movement in terms of. Sports athletes you know just the last couple of days and the NHL produced that and it took a little bit but I think they got it right? Yes. The scene for everybody what was happening is yesterday morning once the recording this on. Friday. We're talking about Thursday. The, two of us we were basically on zoom winning for the. Daily morning media availability before what we thought would be game three in their second round series with over cannot switch courses tied one one and you know I wasn't really expecting to ask any hockey but shouldn't because of course, the national discourse is not around sports right now and sometimes that's okay and we kind of you know, let let it be what it'll be and the nights and Availability got push back. It was pushed back Donnelly. Then, you know you started to hear rumblings from a lot of well respected national reporters that okay. There's some serious discussion among the NHL players select in the bubble and they don't WanNa play today, and then we saw from entertain I who courses Cohen, the university lines as well. The San Jose sharks forward. Had made a formal request the NHL of we think it's okay to today we think is more important to have some the message that some things are bigger than sports. People need take time to relax today, and then ultimately you know tomorrow, which is actually stay. Fridays were quite a mess. On these issues of racial inequality, racial injustice and police brutality, and when we heard from Ryan Rees who was at one of the five player that spoke at a Western Conference press conference yesterday. Was He was actually struggling with his decision of what he would ultimately going to do on Thursday. He was thinking about you know saying he didn't want to play, but he was worried that. You know a lot of teammates might not feel the same. A lot of teams would end up playing the game. Anyway he would then be kind of looked at as abandoning his team obviously a very critical. To, the season and then he woke Extra. Kevin Shattenkirk who the Tampa Bay lightning. Not, even in the same bubble, he was in the opposite bubble, and of course, Kevin Shattenkirk is also a way player saying basically, Hey, there's a bunch guy here in Toronto the one to your brain about that, and then regnery said. To him and like, Hey, we wanna talk to you about what your thoughts are on playing today. So names and cannot read went over to the cops and kind of them and meeting and they ultimately decided. that. We don't feel comfortable today and we would prefer to postpone these games and kind of the focus of the sporting world certainly on issues that go well beyond sports today and so we learned. Officially in the afternoon and my three thirty press conference was held, which featured Colorado Avalanche Center of Connery who was a member of the HDA. foreign aid centering her Colorado Avalanche Center Belmar. Reams. Dallas. Dickinson Nights. Fans may remember as one of the players know alongside of read in golden around and Leonard before a round Robin Game and Captain Four and then they you said what relate? cool about that moment and certainly high speed added about conferences it starting with those five guys walking in and I think you know minus reaction was okay. Make sense that these kind of guys that are coming up here to address this decision. And then all of a sudden everyone. Came in and you could see guys from all of the different teams of filing in the background in support their teammates, and there were several nights players that I saw in the background and supporting reasons he was talking about this issue I believe my national now I got to. have no more than half. The extended roster name any names because there could have been plenty of guys that were also in the matter couldn't see because the camera showed us the whole room but they're. Very good representation of their players they're in support of areas. and. The thousand really important because it wasn't just the players color in the bubble that we're addressing this issue there were a bunch of white players in the background that we're saying we also some of them. And I think you know to reeves words that was the most powerful part of this. This is. You know let's be frank. Let's be honest here. This is not the NBA. This is a majority. White League I think I saw stat ninety, seven percent. Obviously. It's a different issue in terms of you have foreign born players in. European. Born players but. To be quite frank, this is an issue that's a global issue. So it affects everybody and I think. One St took the time in in and. Thought. In disgust and said, this is our best course of action. You know it made a powerful statement that it was coming from those players in Ryan Reeves said that. You know to be fair I do. I do WANNA. Go back because you know I said something off the talk about how I. Think they got it right and I'm going to stand by that but. I do think what's fair to criticize in terms of the NHL on Wednesday is is how they handled things before those games in the buildup in what I think. has started to become clear and I think you know we in the media have done a good job of explaining this. This is a player driven thing. This is not the League shutting down. This is not the NHL doing that the NHL didn't feel like it was I guess responsibility and we can argue whether you know the league should or shouldn't step in that regard, but but they kind of left it. To the players but I think what? What the League handy criticized for especially on Wednesday, was twenty seven seconds before the Eastern Conference game dedicated to Jacob Blake in. An announcement to end racism and then nothing. In the Western Conference game that evening before the Dallas Colorado game so Part of the discourse here in the the difficult part of the discussion is. The NHL's. Kind of. What's the word I'm struggling for hesitance to to kind of dive into this just not so much as a league but but as a hockey culture, you know feeling like this is in our place I guess and for them to step up and say you know this issue affects us and we are not going to stand by anymore. We're going to do something again I do I feel like that was a powerful powerful statement. Yeah another place where criticism Kennedy. Again, we are trying to approach this from you a neutral whenever he was. Trying to explain what happened in the context surrounding. One out yesterday. In. The NHL showed to the delight of some people end the anger of a lot of other. As, I seemed to be more willing to take on these issues when they first got the bubbles. Then we saw the NHL and brain mountain certainly. Jim Davis one of their executives. Were following the primaries linter. Infant Tyler Sagan Neo was proud the star of the bubble their players are being more vocal on these issues. We saw Alana tweet social media most not only teams but individual players and visited individual white players like what are they just like wheeler saying who went to a blackbox matter protests that they are willing to kind of step up and no longer be silent and no longer kinda be constrained by I culture, which technically is a lot about conformity unity? Team Spirit. and not necessarily one individual standing out into the by in the period of that was changing because we saw madame neo before Chicago Blackhawks. OILERS game. Delivering a really heartfelt each about the diversity of mine says mission and why you know combating racism and some of the While I few that are kind of president hockey. Is Important. And the anthem demonstration between the night star team. So really seem like, okay you know the NHL certainly isn't how place where it's headed outspoken and the NBA, the WNBA even major league soccer to an extent national women's Soccer League to certainly has probably been more outspoken on these issues but it was you know moving in direction is moving to me more local negative people can disagree with that. Certainly was the direction things we're heading, and then Wednesday certainly seemed to be you know a different style for the staff back in that was Kinda track that they are on or all for the most part. They were either just silent about it because they played nothing before the stars in alledged played Wednesday night or they were very formative in the driving where they had that brief moment. Remember rants. Before the landing played the Boston Bruins in which in which they literally point. Wish Jacob Blake and his family well. If you you know throw a lot of these young. Some issues. You know. Not Cutting to put it quite frankly. So then to the NC, you know of player, take the reins and say, no. We still we can be different Arina. Think differently on Thursday. Yeah and again I guess I go back to what I set off the top is. You know. So I I'll tell the story. So somebody called right before we got on the podcast when you're talking about this and and and she lives in DC in she's. Very big into hockey very big these issues and things like that and. You know the phrases she used was you know we we needed to shut up and listen, and that's kind of what a lot of this was in is. Is, educating ourselves as you know people who don't walk in the shoes, you know. Of Minorities that don't experience you know the brutality from police in an racism walking into a starbucks and having everybody look. Got Him. You know. We don't. We don't relate to that, but we need to shut up and listen and I. Think you know what you're talking? Yes. We can criticize the NHL for for what it did on. Wednesday but I think a lot of that was. Them as players wanting to get it right and not wanting to be rationed, not wanting to say, oh, we've seen something on social media. Let's just instantly react to it. Let's make sure. That, our reaction to it is appropriate improper and makes an impact in his lasting because I think everybody understands right now whether it's the NBA Wnba you know NHL Major League Baseball everybody has a platform right now that's different than it's ever been. An. So with all eyes on them I, think that's what a lot of that was about. It was just taking their time in making sure that they assess the situation and they do what? They felt correct and from that standpoint that's why I say I think they got it right I'm not gonNA. Say whether you know politically in all this I think they should get involved I. I'm neutral as far as that but in terms of their response to it in terms of just not reacting right away on Wednesday I, actually agree with them. Right, before we move onto one topic on this edition of the Golden Podcasts, I wanNA hear a real quick from. Ryan. Riess. Around US room out. There's a lot of. Athletes here and I think that's the statement. Let's be made right now I. It's great the NBA to this, and then I'll be in the WNBA have a lot of by players in those leagues. For. All these athletes in here. To take a stand and say we we see the problem too and we stand behind you. I go these guys hate their doubts on ice, but I couldn't be more batteries guys. no the statement they've made today as as something. That's GonNa last you know. These two as GONNA isn't GonNa fix anything but The conversation in a statement that's been mandatory powerful especially in from from the sleep. Sunday. Sundays. Sundays are coming back in the NFL with NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV. 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You go ahead and buy now deal dash is offering our listeners an extra one, hundred free bids upon sinus on top of their other discounts go to deal dash dot com and use the offer code edge or DEAL DASH DOT FM backslash De. L. D. S. H. DOT FM backslash edge. One last thing I want to address this in terms of the major story that the NHL decided to join the NBA even be an some major league baseball major league soccer teams in terms of not playing games because it's players want to protest racial injustice, racial inequality, and police brutality. Where this goes from here, I mean we've heard from a lot of players yesterday the May just you know they understand that it's important to take a breather right now to take a break from hockey and sports and to as you today, have people reflect and educate themselves I know for me personally that means I probably chew up. Some documentaries today including thirteen. Documentary, which I've been meaning to get to and I now can because I have a little bit more free time today but I'm curious you know what actions are going to stem from this. We heard from a lot of players you know saying we know that this can't just be words right now and Ryan said, you know it's a little bit hard for us to do a lot of stuff because we're confined to a bubble and we will still be combined to a bubble. You know for a little bit after this but I think a lot of people are now going to have their eyes on them does anyone actions they're taking. About the hockey diversity lines HDA, they kind of had a I would say relatively bag action plan Yesterday, which involves things like hope waiting the NHL to sign a pledge that would dedicate the league toward anti-racism education toward grassroots hockey programs the decade or rule changes to make the cultural hockey more inclusive among other. Is still being worked out specifically behind the scenes and when I asked now them Qadri who is a member of the? HDA. Mixture that's about it. Yesterday, he couldn't really dive into specifics but. For you. Damon. You Act on really interesting question too nice. Coach. Pete. This what. Are you looking for kind of from both players and coaches as the sport in general tried to move forward from this? Why I wanNA start actually with what I thought was a little bit the one element discouraging from what they said and I wish they were a little more optimistic in. A couple of mentioned that they knew that these days weren't GonNa Change. Things and. Like I understand what they're saying, but you know what? These. Two days are huge in these two days are impactful and whether you think they relate or should have done things earlier all the all the. They made. An impactful statement that resonated throughout North America throughout Europe. Anybody that follows hockey. So I, I kind of wish as players that they wouldn't have. Kind of discounted what they did a little bit and understand that this can affect changing and yeah we're not GonNa snap our fingers and everything's going to be different by it. This is part of it in and I wish that they would have. Maybe. Puff. They're not puff their chest out a little bit but understood that that this is actually you know going to make an impact in in can affect change now whether that short-term things like. Arenas being used for polling places I. Think we've seen that. The coyotes already and mentioning that that. Healy River arena on the third working to do that we might see that around the league I know that was A. I believe in issue with the NBA players that they had wanted to push the owners to you know have those arenas as polling places we you know those those types of things I'm I'm sure we'll. We'll see they're they're probably working behind the scenes and and we'll come out I know like you mentioned those are the issues I think dozen Qadri. Can't necessarily talk about publicly but you know are high on the list of priorities but. The bigger thing and I, and I think maybe what we can address you know right now in all of this is is sort of the hockey culture in in the racism within hockey culture and how do we change that and and I know that's something that Ryan reasons talked about in terms of you know increasing diversity within the sport and exposing it to you know younger players who? Don't necessarily have a chance to pick up a stick it a young age. It's expensive in getting into to different communities and growing the game that way. I think about things you know part of part of my question Pibor and what I? kind of thought about was you know these coaches they do clinics in talk to these kids and they can talk to coaches and they can change the culture. Things a matter of look when when you chirp somebody your default isn't a racial epitaph. Get that out of you simple as that. You know that's maybe the first step. Get Out of the hockey culture, get that away from the fan base that we hear. Those Things like we talked about in a previous podcast. DEVANTE Pelly Smith in Chicago had targeted him. A you know maybe that's the first thing route that out go from there. But but maybe that's the first step within the hockey culture that that needs to change in and maybe everybody is looking in the mirror I think from all this in there and they're hearing. WHAT DIS like raw. Ryan Reeves are saying, what what other minority players what? Coach like in Vancouver, like Manny Malhotra listening to them and and hearing what they have to say and saying you know what if this is something that I've done in part of me that that I need to change in and it needs to be different going forward. And we'll see what changes will come. The HDA has a plan want Steve Nhl assigned an address, a lot of its goal, its missions, which included a lot of stuff that Davis talked about, which is the cost of equipment is a huge issue in terms of you know only feeling really to upper middle class or upper class people being able to play you know. Afford it. From a very young age as well as numerous other issues in terms of the culture on this for. The NHL also forming a lot of committees. Are designed to address a lot of issues while they have one that's focused on lower levels they have one that's kind of on the culture aspect of hockey. Executive Council that's going to try to create actionable items out of a lot of kind of Ram nations that these lower committees giving then now, the NHL still haven't actually told us who's going to be on this committee. Maybe that's something they are waiting for after the postseason because they don't want to. Distract. From. The postseason when of happening, but it'd be very interesting to see if they choose to release that soon. All happening we've also heard. From a number of people HDA and then even Kevin Weekes. Day when you talk to them a couple of weeks ago, that would like to see you know just specifically, we'll changes in the sport in terms of if you other like a racial epithet whether you're a player or even and that you're building and that that and if you're a player you get fined and. Suspended or both or even if you're coach I mean we kind of had this come up back in the fall in November when Calgary coach Bill Peters was accused of using racial slur towards Chemo Lou about a decade ago in the American Hockey League technically they'll peters is no longer coaching the Calgary flames and I believe he is currently coaching in the cage l.. Technically hasn't been punished by the League yet. Now obviously someone of moot point because like I said, he's not coaching in the NHL. So suspending him for whatever period of time really isn't going to him, but it still could be a statement saying that the League isn't going to stand for this and that's something we haven't seen. From the Lee either so it'll be interesting to see where they go from here once going to help everyone. Found this discussion in cycle or you know and inciteful that could be for to honestly non people are disgustingly obviously very hot button issues that really you know struggling with a lot of people and they should because either and more impact on to talk about to discuss and hopefully to learn from the thing we can all. Grow in the ball by trying to understand other perspectives and trying to get a handle on whether people feeling are feeling and have empathy for that. We've out, WE'RE GONNA go back to Edmonton and here one time from Ryan rates I. Think it was Just, what I said I think. The message coming from predominantly White League has. Figuring nutmegger impact, it has a very strong. On his coming from Clare's like this. Most of these guys have our. Live through some of the stuff that blackout these. they don't go through those those Dan things that they feel that. They've seen the researchers unreasonable other families gone through but for them to say what we see what's going on society and? We disagree with stomach acid changed now that was my message I. Think. I. You know I said that standing together here is. This is this. Article, you can do we're on the ball. Is, not. So you can do outside the ball right now and we can't change anything because we're starting here together. Now that's what we can do. Once again, that was regnery is one time addressing the NHL players, decision chew and not play games or or Friday as a sign of protest, which is a sign that has been done by the. NBA. WMBA. In some major league. Baseball Nature League Soccer Teams racial. 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The Takedown | S1 E7

The City

46:02 min | 2 years ago

The Takedown | S1 E7

"On January tenth nineteen Ninety-six people around the country turned on the radio and heard a story about a dozen public officials accused of taking bribes in Chicago today, federal officials announced charges in what they call operation, silver, shovel, a wide ranging probe of public corruption reports noted that the three and a half year undercover investigation had I focused on illegal dumping, but had expanded to include a lot of other things. US attorney Jim burns says since that time the FBI's it has grown to include an investigation into cocaine trafficking organized crime and public corruption in Chicago surrounding suburbs. The story also introduced America to the informant at the center of this investigation. John Christopher a man with an extensive criminal record who had bribed Chicago alderman and used his help to dump six stories of debris in the middle of a west. Side neighborhood residents there called the large and unsightly dumpsite the mountain, and they accused the federal government of allowing Christopher to continue dumping and poor and minority neighborhoods while using him to target public officials US attorney burns denies the charge. By the time. It wrapped the FBI would call opperations silver, shovel one of the most successful corruption probes in Chicago history with John Christopher's help the feds had gone after more than forty people and had convicted close to half by using John Christopher to launder millions of dollars in old mob cash. They had hit the outfit the Chicago, mafia where it hurt. They'd even folded in a drug bust along the way. But the investigation did not play out in Chicago's neighborhoods. The way it played out on the nightly news in north London and places where alderman had been targets people felt betrayed not just by their elected officials. But by the investigation itself. Although operation silver, shovel took down corrupt politicians it left. The mountain standing. I'm Robin Aamer and from USA today. This is the city. For decades women have had two options outdated at home hair color or the time and expense of a salon. If you can relate to the struggle. And I know I can Madison Reed is the answer for you. Madison Reed is revolutionizing the way women color their hair, they believe women deserve better than the status quo. So they give you the quality of salon color, and the convenience and affordability of at home hair color with Madison Reed, you'll look like you just came from a salon, and you'll have more meantime to do what you love. So if you want beautiful multidimensional hair-color maiden Italy delivered to your door on your schedule for under twenty five dollars. Then it's time to join the hundreds of thousands of women who've tried and loved Madison Reed. Find your perfect shade at Madison dash Reed dot com. Listen. Of the city. Get ten percent off plus free shipping on their first color kit with promo code the city. That's Madison dash Reed dot com. Promo code the city. Let's rewind a bit to January fifth nineteen Ninety-six before operation, silver, shovel became a national story. The covert part of the investigation was drawing to a close for months, the FBI and the US attorney's office had been planning what they called the take down a highly orchestrated deployment of federal agents into the field. They would interrogate more than forty targets including seven Chicago alderman, three officials from the water treatment agency and to city inspectors. They would question every target at the exact same time this way. No, one subject could worn any other subject to hush up or destroy evidence. Or get a lawyer Scott Lazar was second in command among Chicago's federal prosecutors. The plan was to launch the take down the following week after Lazar boss returned from vacation. But then Scott was our got an unexpected call. She knew every detail about the investigation. The call came from a TV reporter named Carol marine who knew all about their targets and about their mole. John Christopher and she wasn't calling to find out anything. She was just giving us notice. I called the US attorney's office and said or about to break story about an investigation that we know you have completed this is Carol marine. She something of a legend in Chicago. She had previously covered operations gamut and grey Lord. The federal corruption probes that seem to be almost an annual occurrence in Chicago. She'd been tipped off about this story by a reliable source. Somebody whispered in my ear you need to start looking at Jesse Evans Imbros Madryn oh in Larry bloom. All Chicago alderman, the FBI had been investigating because there's this guy. John Christopher who is fly dumping all over the city and paying people off John Christopher had been dumping in north DAL for almost six years. But now that it was tied to a citywide corruption scandal NBC couldn't wait to break. The story. Carrol marine news. Chicago was what the feds like to call target rich environment full of corrupt officials, but she was surprised by who the feds had targeted alderman like Jesse Evans and Imbros Huma drano were not on her radar. There were people in city council. We knew were ones we really wanted to watch. In those two words and Larry bloom, the white south side alderman, we met in the last episode while this news did not swear with his reputation. He was the pillar of rectitude sanctimonious often. But he was the reformer. So she knew this would be a big story. Carol marines. Call south a panic inside the US attorney's office. She said that at five o'clock news that night, she was going to go with the story because the takedown was scheduled for the following week airing the story that same day would have royally messed up their plans. So Scott was our asks he and the head of the criminal division can come over to NBC and meet with Carol marine and her producer like now never before in since his that kind of request ever come from the US attorney's office to me as a reporter. And so what did you think when they made that request? It was it was further confirmation that we knew what we were talking about. They were over at NBC in record time. And they said could you hold it until we raid Larry blume's office in the other alderman's offices. So we could have a chance to send the teams out interview people, and we thought about that. Because they were concerned about the destruction of materials. Carol Marie knew that one of her competitors. At ABC had also been sniffing around this story. She was worried that he would beat her to it. But she took seriously the fear that alderman might destroy evidence. She wanted to report on the investigation, but she did not want to get an its way in. So we sort of carefully agreed and the feds scrambled to do the take down that same day. At this point. Scott was our passes the baton to FBI special agent. Jim Davis he'd been John Christopher's day today. Handler. And now he was affectively running the takedown Lazar office calls Jim Davis and tells him it's go time forget next week. The takedown is on now today pronto so Jim Davis springs into action. We sit up kind of a command post the command post is in a conference room in the federal building. Downtown. The room is full of telephones the walls are lined with butcherblock paper that agents will use to track their targets. Jim Davis is stationed there at the center of things because he knows the case better than anyone four or five other agents are there to to help him in the phones and manage the teams in the field from that command post, we issued a an execute order. We told them all to go to same time. And then we just waited for results. More than one hundred federal agents fan out across the city. One team goes to the southwest side alderman, Ray free s another goes to the west side to alderman, prec- Giles, and so on so we had teams that wrote to search warrants, but the most focus was on the the actual interview teams were going out interviewing subjects each of. These interview teams takes along a photograph of John Christopher we got a copy of it from the US attorney's office. The photo shows John Christopher standing inside a Dunkin donuts he's holding a Cup of coffee, and there's a folder of papers, tucked under his arm. The photo was taken from outside the coffee shop because it's supposed to look like a surveillance photo think that there was a Dunkin donuts Plymouths and Jackson or somewhere right there by the buddy office. I think I think it might have been it. I was like I think that's the Dunkin donuts right across from the federal building. Right. I think that's right. But the photo. Was staged the FBI's interview teams show this voter to their targets and ask them do. You know, this man, of course, the FBI knew the answer was yes, they'd been investigating these guys for years and all of their targets. Definitely new John Christopher. But even if their targets lied and said, no, I don't know this guy, even that was helpful by them lying about their relationship with John Christopher, for example. It would show that they know that there's some reason for them to lie about that relationship shows that that they have some understanding that it is a corrupt relationship. Each team. Also had a video player loaded with audio or video footage of John Christopher and the target. So Phan alderman denied knowing John Christopher the FBI agents would pull out the video player play the footage and ask if you don't know John Christopher, then why are you on this video taking money from him? In the command center. Jim Davis started to hear back from the field teams and it quickly became clear. The from a law enforcement perspective this takedown was going better than anyone head predicted. We hit multiple confessions came that were being reported back to in the command post, which was really surprising. We didn't expect it one of their targets was Tom fuller. An official at the city's water treatment agency, John Christopher had been bribing him for years. Even before the investigation started the FBI agent responsible for questioning fuller with Tony diangelo who we heard from an episode five. Remember, he told us about his meetings with John Christopher at the Pizza Hut in Cicero. Jim Davis says that he was surprised when Tony de ngelo called in right away. He was clearly sitting with Tom fuller when he made the conversation in Isa's, he Jim sitting here with Tom, you know, he'd like to to come in and talk to you. Kind of work this thing out. And he was you know, Lou cryptic. And what he was saying. So I said Tony did he confess and he says, oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll bring them in. So so Tom fuller came in with Tony the Angelo in. We took him into one of the interview rooms there in the FBI office in interviewed him about his contact with John Christopher and he confessed again. And I think that these guys were so stunned to learn that John was working with us that they just figured they had nowhere to go. Percy Giles was at his west side office when the FBI showed up. He's the alderman we met in the last episode having lunch at edna's and taking money from John Christopher and the X me divan. No, Don Christopher. I told him note because it didn't dawn on me. Then later do. No. He says it took him a while to realize what was happening that knew. It wasn't good in action them. Do. I need a lawyer. And they told me you might when I went home that night. And I remember I was nervous so nervous. When telling my wife about it. I remember my knees just fell Monday me almost fell to floor with the takedown underway. Federal prosecutor Scott Lazar when over to city hall. He was there to pay mayor Richard m Daley a courtesy call. He wanted to let the mayor know that at this very moment. Seven aldermen and a mess of other city officials were being questioned by the FBI are didn't want the mayor to find out on the ten o'clock news. And according to Lazar, mayor Daley was not interested. He asked no questions, and then he started discussing the the legislature has recently given him power over the Chicago public schools, and he told us about what his plans were for the Chicago public schools. Lazar could not understand how the city's chief executive could be so uninterested in a massive corruption scandal that had happened on his watch. If mayor Daley was afraid of the potential fallout. He didn't show it. He certainly didn't fear federal law enforcement or have personal concerns about five along forest -ment. But I I would have thought it would have asked some questions and he had no interest whatsoever. We reached out to former mayor Daley for comment, but he never responded. Meanwhile, about fifteen miles south of city hall, TV reporter, Carol marine was waiting for the go signal from the feds. Now, I was on the phone with Scott Lazar. I think every hour or every other hour just to make sure that that there wasn't a call coming to them from another competitor. Because. We really were ready to go because Carol marine new that the takedown was happening that day, and because she agreed to hold her story. She could now get everything on tape. I n a camera crew stood outside Larry blume's office and waited for the FBI in sort of v formation to go in and do their rate. Larry bloom had started his day at his south shore law fice when to FBI agents showed up an acid talk to him. They asked him if he knew John Christopher. He said, yes. So they asked him some more questions. Eventually, my tentacles rose up and said, wait a minute. There's something strange going on here. They seem to be wanting to cues me of something. And so I went down the hall and talk to a lawyer in our sweet who did criminal defense work. He came in identified himself and said that I was no longer answering any questions Carol marines crew caught on camera. What happened next? Larry bloom was running from his office looking as though he was about to be sick and saw me in wasn't pleased and ran to the bathroom to admit I really had to go to the bathroom. Because you know, what happens when you're tense. So I was running out the front door and there's co marine with her camera crew. And I remember exactly what I said to her. I said just be professional or something like I expect you to handle this professionally. He's a spectacle, the fed had tipped her off to try to sway public opinion against him. And that made him furious. Someone had told her that the FBI is going to be going to blooms office. And you might wanna be there, which I think is an abuse of the federal prosecutor's power to try to sway the jury or the general public an particular case. They're involved. Anyway, I made it to the bathroom. Finally with this footage in hand. Carol marine has a huge scoop for that night's news and the story explodes over the next few days reporters swarm, the lobby of city hall trying to figure out who else the FBI has been investigating and get them on tape. Most won't answer questions and deny having done anything wrong. Like Percy Giles the alderman who had fallen to his knees when he realized he was under investigation. I haven't been charged with anything. Roane and. Respond to the question at the proper time. And Ray freeze. He's the one who said that being a politician was all about making money with John Christopher. Okay. And John I'm not going to answer. Questions pertaining to the investigation. Virgil Jones who had accepted four thousand dollars wrapped in newspaper admits that yeah, he knows John. Christopher Maher watermelons one to go. What? Grew up with little world of Mullins of of course, students giving them out this. This give a million. Mummified. No comment about the. But one alderman calls a press conference Imbros e o Madryn oh had taken thirty one thousand dollars in bribes from John Christopher and had introduced him to other aldermen, Madonna confesses and publicly apologizes and continues to apologize again. And again, you know, I don't think that whenever anybody does anything wrong. Really, no one. I don't know the answer to that. It was just move operate. It wasn't. It was I can't tell you that from the initial meeting that I had with some and the first time that I actually met with him and accepted the money had been several months. I mean, he had. Hauled him. Badgered me calls me and asks asked me to meet with him. I recused. Why I finally gave I don't. And that was the mistake. I mean, I- I- total responsibility for what I did. Jim Davis recalls leaving the office at midnight the night of the takedown pleased with how smoothly everything had gone despite how rush they had been. So if you start out the day with us heaven to to spring this early because it had been compromised somehow by a reporter, and then it ends up with us getting a bunch of confessions that we really didn't expect who's just a it was a good day. Was a really good day. Over the next three years. Federal prosecutors. Indicted, a dozen city officials only Ray free us was fully acquitted. Larry bloom played to a much less serious charge of tax evasion. And was sentenced to just six months in prison. One of the water. Commissioners was also convicted on lesser charges. Ambrosi? Oh madryn. Oh, the one who apologized would go to prison get out run for elected office again. And then go back to prison a second time, a new corruption charges the other officials either pled guilty to corruption charges or convicted of the same. Here's prosecutor Scott Lazar in March of two thousand came back on everything fell fact, this is one of the most successful what are called crops in investigations ever conducted in Chicago. And yet the feds also took a lot of heat for this case even with their explanation about the mechanics of the investigation where one alderman had introduced them to another and another the optics of having pursued almost only black and Latino politicians were very bad for them. The feds were also criticized for using a guy like John Christopher as their informant. A guy who had defrauded the city and the federal government who had been bribing elected officials his whole adult life who was tied to the mob. And who prosecutors say wanted to murder federal witness? It did not endear the feds to the public or to Milton shatter the judge who presided over Larry blooms case during the sentencing hearing judge shatter excoriated the feds saying, quote, it is quite distressing to find in this case the United States having enlisted to its aid the villainous John Christopher having somebody of this. Stripe as a weapon of law enforcement denigrates the system in a material way, it is true of law enforcement agencies as it is of anyone else that if you lie down with dogs, you are likely to get up with fleas. But there was one other gigantic problem with operation silver shovel as the Fed's executed their takedown as they busted elected officials and confronted them with their misdeeds as they prepped for trial and talk to the press. They didn't nothing about the six stories of construction debris in Northland DAL by the day of the takedown. John Christopher's illegal dumps had loomed over the neighborhood for nearly six years, but the FBI and the US attorney's office had no intention of removing with the agency commonly referred to as mount Henry don't think that we had any obligation to clean up Henry or the other one that he had because first of all it's not what we do. And we didn't create it. I mean, there are agencies that are responsible for cleaning up stuff like that. But giving John Christopher cover had made the problem worse for all the people who'd been fighting him. That's after the break. There's a lot to worry about in the world these days, it's easy to get overwhelmed. That's why I'm a big fan of SimpliSafe home security. Simplisafe is ready for anything that gets thrown at it. Which means I have one less thing to worry about. If a storm takes out, my power, simply safe is ready and intruder cuts my phone line. 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His many attempts to stop John Christopher from dumping and north Lonsdale had failed one after another and his good friend federal prosecutor Scotland, Dr had rejected his calls for help Henderson had asked Lazar into the US department of Justice to look into what he believed was a criminal conspiracy to dump in Chicago neighborhoods Lazar had dismissed this. As a municipal waste problem on the day of the takedown. Henry Henderson was at work in his downtown office. He didn't yet know about the federal probe as he walks down the hallway he looks into a conference room and sees one of his field. Inspectors talking to an FBI agent and Henderson seeing this federal law enforcement agent flashes. Back to his conversation with Scotland you're and thanks. Finally, the department of Justice must have sent the FBI to help. I said FBI agent. Thank god. You're here. We really need federal help on this thing. And he goes, do, you know, this person shows me that Sean Christopher have you talked to mister twister. Yes, I've talked to mR Christopher, and I said, I'm so glad you're after him. So I thought they were talking to the inspector in order to get a better fix on. How to stop this problem? But the FBI agent in the conference room was not there to help Henderson's inspector. He was there to interrogate the inspector. I had no idea what he was doing was showing tapes related to him taking money. They had a case of official corruption against somebody who was working in the department. This inspector was one of the targets of operation silver, shovel instead of issuing citations for illegal dumping instead of fighting John. Christopher Henry Henderson's inspector was taking bribes from John Christopher. He was one of two environmental inspectors. Who would eventually be convicted on corruption charges shocked shocked and all this starts to sink in Henry, hundreds and recalls all the conversations he's had with his inspectors ever since the city's civil lawsuit against John. Christopher was resolved in their favor. A judge had ordered John Christopher to clean up the mountain and north Mondale. But according to Henderson's inspectors he had instead disappeared. And so we haven't seen him haven't seen him. But they turns out they had seen him. And I was in the course of when they apparently took some money. So was their failure to cite. These dumps properly because they are being bribed one factor that allowed these dumps to get as bad as they did, obviously. I mean, if you've got people out there who are in the business of enforcing the law, and they are not enforcing the law. This is a big problem. Later that day Henderson learns about the raid. Larry blume's office, and he learned that John Christopher is an FBI mole. Now. He's reeling a conversation. He'd had with bloom the previous year. Suddenly makes sense ahead. A interesting and surprising. Visit from former alderman Larry bloom who came to see me about getting permits for recycling concrete, debris and doing quote rock crushing activity or member bloom was the alderman who had helped John Christopher find a lot for his phantom rock crusher and Henderson it tried to warn bloom. You do not want something like this in your ward. And you know, look at what has happened on west side took the twenty fourth ward with John Christopher site. And what you're describing is remarkably similar to the way John Christopher describes things. And I think it's something you need to be very careful and where and what Larry bloom say when you gave him this advice. So that I would never deal with anybody. Like, John Chris for Larry bloom told us that he does not recall denying that he knew John Christopher. But with the news of the takedown, Henry Henderson finally understood why he could not get the feds to help him. They were protecting their investigation and keeping their star informant in play. The next morning. News of operation, silver, shovel was splashed across the papers and started to reach the resonance in north Lauderdale. All right. So where are we run Costner sixteen Costner sixteen? This is what a news day was our producer Jenny Kaas spoke with lifetime. Northland resident cease will read it his family owned and operated newsstand just four blocks from the dump the newsstand is gone now. But that day was one of the busiest. He can remember we do a lot of sales on that. Because I mean, we get the payments dropped off at four in the morning when that happened by six seven o'clock out of papers talking about a thousand newspapers Sixers o'clock in the morning. A thousand newspapers loan silver, shovel was the talk of the newsstand as politician after politician not swept up in the probe. A lobby was like a lot of people go into jail, and they were talking about. Hey, man, who because they knew some of the individuals that was involved. So they was like man, this is this is did you see him me involvement? He was he was involved in that the dumps less than a mile away had been the talk of the newsstand before they had been there for years. But this time was different for the first time. They were also front page news. So he's going to do the conversation. We be lots was there. You know, how they can just somewhat just neighborhood and get away with it. You know? And and honestly say there's no way that this would happen in the Caucasian running the newsstand over the years cease lorettes father had seen his share of Chicago's corruption scandals. So what did your parents think about up rations visual? But when they heard about it, my dad's it shook his head. And. Say man, you never know who he's money but change in a way that the money change. Northland residents who've been fighting John Christopher for the past six years found it shocking and surreal to suddenly learn that he was working for the FBI. What's shovel? That was my first thing what what is civil show. And they said, oh, you did a dumpsite this Woodson the block club president who had confronted John Christopher at the vacant lot. She realized that in this investigation. She and her neighbors were collateral. They had been used they were never able to get traction fighting John Christopher and now they could see why he had to have begging. Other than you know, people that we will contact in seem to you know, was pushing it on the local not answering for everyone in north Lonsdale whose children had been hurt whose property had been damaged whose neighborhood had been disrespected. This was a huge breach of trust as MS Woodson. Once put it we wrote their body from who's who to who's that? And no level of government. Not the city, not the state, not the feds had ever fixed. The problem. Now, the FBI was crowing over the results of its investigation Chicago in the nation or captivated by the news of the mob, connected guy, turned FBI mole. But in north Lauderdale. The announcement just felt like a punch in the gut last spring. We caught up with Rita and Michelle Ashford. The mother daughter duo who had protested the dumps. Marching in the streets with signs that read down with John. And dumped the dumps all these years later, they still remember where they were when they heard the news about operation silver shovel. Here's Michelle home broke on news that we started calling everybody. This is about the dump right here. And all this her. Mom rita. Ashford was also stunned. John Christopher had turned her block into a mountain of hazardous, debris, her grandchildren and her neighbors. Kids had suffered from severe asthma made worse by the dust from the dumps. And now it turned out that John Christopher had actually been working for the FBI. We they said about him being a mole. I was shocked. Because that's something that we never even intense depicted. We've just figured that John Christopher had that see that concrete pal there. He was making money off of it. And that's the purpose of it. And that's what we thought we knew it wasn't healthy. But at that point, that's all we ever thought like miss Woodson. They came to believe that this was why no one in government had ever effectively dealt with the dumps this why we couldn't get any help. Why within get any help would because everything's also they knew all this was going on all alone before we even begin to fight for. And and the reason why we couldn't get any Justice for anything because it was all about for men, and they knew it from the very beginning. The news seem to confirm what they'd been saying for years about the government's neglect of their neighborhood angry health because once again, we'd underdog and the sad thing about it was it was a serious thing where it affected people's health. John have to be allowed to still have that Deng 'cause you had ammunition to use against. There was also the question of what would happen to John Christopher now. Would he ever be held accountable for what he'd done in north Mondale? That's after the break. Even though John Christopher had agreed to wear a wire and had agreed to cooperate with the FBI and become the centerpiece of a major undercover investigation. His participation in operation, silver, shovel was not a get out of jail free card. He did not have a deal for full immunity, so FBI agent. Jim Davis warned John Christopher not to do anything illegal. That wasn't part of the investigation is trying and reassure them and say, look, if you're straight with us, you know, if you continue to do what we're asking you to do, you know, if you stay out of trouble, you're going to be okay, John Christopher did not hold up his end of the bargain, even while cooperating he committed crimes and went behind the bureau's back in other ways. A silver shovel was underway. The FBI's organized crime squad was also looking into an illegal gambling operation in Chicago's western suburbs. Run by an alleged mob. Boss named Tony Centracchio John referred to his uncle, Tony. And that was a problem for me because we had a wire Tony the wire was a video camera hidden in the ceiling of Tony Centracchio office. And every time John went into him. You know, we were recording. It's not totally clear. What John Christopher was doing there. He was never charged in the legal gambling case, but him showing up on another investigations wire make things complicated for Jim Davis and his fellow agents. I would've liked to have said John stay away from Tony's office. But I can't tell John that we have a a wire Tony's office. In addition to that, John Christopher also neglected to file his federal income tax returns in one thousand nine hundred eighty two and nineteen Ninety-three. I know it seems so Monday, but he also committed bankruptcy fraud through one of the sham construction companies. He'd set up during silver shovel, and ultimately, bankruptcy fraud and tax evasion. Or what sent him back to prison not illegal dumping or any of the other things he'd done before he started cooperating like bribing Bill. Henry we got. Copy of his plea deal and the federal government chose not to charge him for any of that. Ultimately, John Christopher is sentenced to thirty nine months in federal prison at sentencing, he told the judge, quote, I'm sorry for the things I did in my past life, but he would never be forced to clean up the dumps or provide restitution to anyone in north Lauderdale. And then after he got out of prison. He really would disappear maybe for good this time. I've been looking for John Christopher for almost three years trying to figure out what happened to him after he got out of prison in his plea deal. The feds explained that because he had cooperated with the FBI and worn a wire against the mob. He could not safely return to his old life or even be in Chicago without F B I protection. So I looked for John Christopher everywhere. I could think of every public database every government agency that might have a lead I found nothing. Then in March, our reporter Wilson Sayer got a phone call. So I was reading Illinois PA remediation reports. And I get a call from random number which is not unusual, and I pick it up and on the other line is somebody asking me why we're reporting on silver shuttle, again, the man on the phone was a lawyer calling on behalf of his client. Angelo, Christopher John Christopher's older, brother? I have contacted nobody within the John Christopher family. And so it takes a while to figure out that somebody has called Angelo. And said there are these reporters they're doing something about silver shovel you need to maybe call this person. But gave Angela my number Angelo calls his lawyer. He essentially was like, I sort of respect. Your desire to look into the story. But know that there are consequences for the people who are involved like this is garbage in. Why are you digging up old garbage and Junkers, I other ngelo does not want to talk and it sounded like he was pretty emphatic on that point can yes, very emphatic. Absolutely. Not as what he said, eventually, I learn that when John Christopher got out of prison, the FBI set him up with a new name, a new social security number and a new life, and that there's an FBI agent in Saint Louis who might have that information. I ask if we'll talk to me or if not if he'll pass a message to John Christopher. This was the response. I got from the FBI's public information officer. Hi, it's Rebecca ESPN Saint Louis. I spoke with the agent, and he says, I can t she I guess empathy for the force that not surprisingly declined to participate. Again, he says it is his responsibility to protect his source that he hopes that lender. Thank you very much and. Even after all this time. It seems the FBI is still protecting John Christopher. Over the last seven episodes. We've told you a story about Chicago a city infamous for corruption and racial divides. But this problem is not unique to this city. Our story in Chicago is not over yet. But to understand what happened here after John Christopher disappeared. Again, we have to take a side trip to Houston. A city were black neighborhoods have been fighting their own battles against their own mountains for a very long time. And I would tell my students if you see a mountain in Houston. Houston is flat below sea level see a mountain using be suspicious landfill. That's next time on the city. The city is a production of USA today, and is distributed in partnership with wondering you can subscribe to the show on apple podcasts or wherever you're listening right now, if you like the show, please rate and review us and be sure to tell your friends about us. Our show is reported and produced by Wilson Sayer, Jenny Kaas and me, Robin EMA our editor is Sam Greenspan. 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Ep 457 - The Comet by W.E.B. Dubois and Woeful Tales from Mahigul by Ursula K. Le Guin

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Ep 457 - The Comet by W.E.B. Dubois and Woeful Tales from Mahigul by Ursula K. Le Guin

"This is a head gum. Podcast while andrew and craig believe the joy of discovery is crucial to enjoying any well told tale. They will not shy away. From spoiling specific story beats when necessary. Plus these are books. You should have read by now everybody welcome do overdo to podcasts. The books you've been meaning to read. My name is craig andrew i said. Hey everybody and. I don't remember if i always say that. And you say hey everybody alive. Yeah you're like a youtuber. Who's like hey guy like comment subscribe i book boy four twenty. Here's another book. And what have. I became a book. Tuber yo if we have any book tours listening. I have ever relied on the work that you do for some of my research so i hit us up window. If you're a book tuber are we just like. Are we looking to horn in on their turf. I wanna meet more about them. Okay i have. I have become part of the community. Well i don't know if i've timed report of the community. I would like to honor the community. Maybe because we're a book podcast. If i didn't manage it every week. One of us reads a book that the other ones never had before. And we tell the other person about it this week. Were changing up a little bit partly because we want it to. I don't know planning like a little bit of a lighter february early on so we can have a heavy one later and then also well because we put the barack hussein obama book on. You've cracked the spied on that bad boy but it's a big win. My man is not does not write short. I know so in mammalian rates tune in at the end of this episode. We'll give you the rundown of our february schedule but yeah we wanted to come into february. A little bit lighter in volume of reading. Yeah and then. I also have a cold that hair gave me. So that's if my instrument sounds a little dollar than it usually does or maybe like a registered lower than it normally does. Yeah that's why. I'm all hopped up on storebrand dayquil. Yeah and half a beer. So let's go for it. Let's the work. We have a too short stories for you today. i will tell andrew about the comet w. e. b. d boys and andrew. What will you tell me about it. Tell you about a woeful tales from my goal which is from the story. Short story collection changing planes by ursula kayla gwen excellent. So we've done these short story episodes before Short story week or something got. I called it short story week. It's not like it was like okay. I saw that you did that. It was like oh. Hey it's sorcery cool excuse three or stories but no you're just making it up. I wanted making miss earth kayla. Guede over here just making up story. Yeah that's me the writer and sometimes it's fun for us to do like short were collections. But sometimes it's also a cool opportunity to encounter a writer in a different mode. I discovered this. Do boys story kind of just randomly clicking through wikipedia for other reasons and then was like i did not know that this guy writes wrote fiction at all let alone a short story that one might describe as an early example of sci-fi So that was kind of neat and then when we were building the february schedule we figured we would find another short story which andrew me about later. So what do you know about. Mr de boys andrew. What's your like. What's your frame of reference for him in his work like not a lot on. Okay like not as much as i should. I know that he was sort of a black activist. And that's about as much as i as i go sure. Sure sure sure William edward burghardt born in eighteen sixty eight passed away. Nineteen sixty three born in massachusetts I believe there were there was like a population of Like he went to a integrated local school. Which even in massachusetts. What does that mean. I don't know at the time in the late nineteenth century but he went down to fisk for college in nashville tennessee where he first hand experience the realities of jim crow. He studied a couple of places after that including getting his doctorate at harvard. I think he was the first african-american get his doctorate at harvard. And then he went to berlin for additional schooling. Found a quote from a book about deploys by alden morris. Boy says i found myself on the outside of the american world. Looking in with me were white folk Students acquaintances acquaintances teachers. Who viewed the scene with me that they did not always pause to regard me as a curiosity or something subhuman. I was just a man of the somewhat privileged student rank with whom they were glad to meet and talk over the world particularly the part of the world whence i came. We've heard that Particular personal experience from other authors when they travel outside of america. Yeah it's quite a place. America is the boy's taught in ohio. He did research gig here in pennsylvania in philadelphia at the university of pennsylvania. He did a social. He was an early like Prominent socio sociologist. Like he did a lot of research and work in that field kind of in its nascent. See if that's a word that i didn't just make up right now. Now that sounds right. The field was nascent. Yes created a kind. Of gra miracle. Cul de sac for myself. Miracle might be a made up word to hang it. You're the one on medicine and he did a sociological study of philadelphia's black neighborhood it was published later as the philadelphia negro that explored the causes and the results of segregation. Here in the city. We have a very segregated city here. Still unfortunately Yeah you and. I live on in south philadelphia on separate sides of broad street like mile apart and they're very different. They're incredibly different. And it's even more different go for the north and further west. Yeah i could go like a mile north or mile east from where i am not even a mile and just dramatically different neighborhoods divided by like those arterial brought in washington or the big ones but So after that he moves to atlanta university Which is where he he. I don't know exactly the timeline. He we're not gonna cover everything he did. I just want to set some good kind of background for his work. Because he's not primarily known as a fiction writer. so coming into. This is what. I found interesting He was part of the niagara movement which was a collection of Black academics and and folks who are advocating for social change and it was somewhat if not directly opposed to the work booker. T. washington was doing Which i think two boys is credited with calling it. The atlantic compromise it was a negotiation of like post reconstruction era south. That said like black folks would accept white. Political rule in exchange for greater opportunities of education and kind of a bit of its accommodation is another term. That boy used for it like. Let's come to some sort of truce divorce. Also is a proponent of what gets called the talented tenth idea where he is arguing for Or at least saying that social change would come about from like the elites of black society. That could better advocate for change. And i don't know enough about how that you know. Theory has been critiqued. But that's that is what. I remember of two boys from high school history class. He did also. I think i was. I was aware that he was one of the founders of the end of lacey pe- was yes So he gets into that in nineteen o nine and nineteen ten. He was the editor of their monthly magazine. He did a lot of work. Publicizing data on the ongoing practices of lynching in america Both like impure data and anecdotal data They fought to ban birth of a nation when it when it was released and they were unsuccessful. I mean why are they trying to censor these people speech high question. I'm just out here asking questions. Yeah that's a good question. If you've ever heard of the movie you might know why. I'm just asking questions though. I mean you're surely the like more speech is better right yeah. I've heard that someone ever said that. But yes there unsuccessful. I know a birth of a nation being facetious. A little bit. Yes the unsuccessful campaign to ban it did draw additional support to the cpi in one zero three just before that He published the souls of black folk a collection of fourteen essays. Where he really digs into what he calls the problem of the color line. He addresses the unique perspective of being both american and black at the time and he was also someone who advocated for like pan african issues You tend to live. International conferences on folks descended from various regions in africa and fighting for independence of You know colonial states in africa And then his big work. Black reconstruction in america nineteen thirty. Five is about the like why reconstruction failed and critiques. The white historical record of why it failed turn and then he goes on to become a delicate to the un. He is a lifelong kind of war. Advocate he does get mixed up in the mccarthy hearings because he was who did leanings yet. Yes of course. Go ahead cool. If you're a cool in that era you gots. You got caught up by the mccarthy hearing. Yeah the mccarthy is it was really dislike if you're not a square we're looking into you. Yeah and also more violent things but really it starts. If you're if you're not a square we're looking into you. The for the first question did all the hearings is. Can you hang hang feel like maybe you're a member of the communist party. He was working for a an organization that was working on a nuclear band petition and they called him in and apparently the case got dismissed because the defense attorney said einstein was willing to deal with this like well and it was me. I don't think we're going to prosecute you sir. If dr einstein is going to show up in support of you and then late in life he traveled to ghana. That was where he passed away. He had some. The american government was treating him poorly with regards to his passport So he took up citizenship in gone and passed away their nineteen sixty three year before these civil rights act was passed obviously worked very hard to bring about this story the comet if i didn't say that clearly up top was written in nineteen twenty as part of a collection called dark water voices from within the vale which is a collection of essays spiritual poems at all some of which had been published in previous like magazines like the atlantic and other places. Sounds like the name of a spooky audio like a narrative audio podcast. It it's a great name for anything literally. Voices from within the vale is cool. Like i don't know it's a great name for anything It is grouped with dusk of dawn and a salute. Hey soliloquy on viewing my life from the last decade of its first century which are two of his other autobiographical texts And a lot of the writing in the book is about like labor and inequities in these other stories and essays. There's in the. I think it's the postscript. He says something like the shadow of hunger in a world which never needs to be hungry drives us to war and murder hate but why does hunger shadow so vast a massive men manifestly because in the great organizing of men for work a few of the participants come out with more wealth than they can possibly use while a vast number emerged with less than can decently support life. You wonder why he might have gone called in during the mccarthy hearings when you hear that tax Yeah hang hang. Two boys are back in town and then this story. Also ask your one thing that. I say that you try not to respond to and people on twitter notice okay say. I can't believe craig didn't respond to that thing. Andrew said i can believe is not that he didn't hear it. You should get called in by mccarthy for that one and then this this story was. Could you tell us everything you know about thin lizzy sounds like a name that would get brought up at trial. Yeah it was reprinted in a two thousand dollars. He dark matter. The analogy of science fiction fanzine speculative fiction. My black writers and yeah. We've just been interested. I don't know. I'm going to read the other broken earth book this month. I was thinking of children blood and bone earlier. And there's also thinking about early sci fi. I was struck by the fact that this is like billed. As a sci fi story in one thousand nine hundred ninety spoiler the good reviews. that are from scifi. Fans are not impressed because this book is mostly about making a point about racism. And whether or not we can transcend it and the scifi part is that there's a comet involved so i was gonna sit like man i hate when my sifi has a political point to make that. That's the worst fi when it's usually the worst futuristic and alien themes to to comment on real world eight it so i'm gonna give you run down to the story andrew and they're going to talk a little bit about the two standout themes i guess stopped me along the way when you find something interesting or if you want to say something that don't occur with happy about again. I mean probably most of the things. I have to say things. Joe mccarthy would love. That's a good. I don't know the guy that he didn't seem cool. Yeah that's true. The opening lines of this story. He stood a moment on the steps of the bank watching the human river that swirled down broadway. Few noticed him few ever noticed him. Save in a way that stung. He was outside the world quote. Nothing as he said bitterly. Bits of the words of the walkers came to him that outside the world bit is also in the boys postscript. He talks about being in the world not of the world. And it also reminds me of ralph ellison's invisible man this the the white world in the way that it marginalize both collectively and individually but we are learning that there is a comet coming. It's not haley's comet. it's just some other comment. i don't know it's not the only comment Because everybody just because that's the one that everybody knows every communist haley's comet People have seen it and we are expected to be in. The tail of the comet is what people are saying. I don't really know what that means. Except that the comets. Going to come by earth and i don't think anybody expects to comment to hit earth but we're gonna move through. It's like comet dust. Imagine the competition farting i guess through space. The trail of rock and ice. That comment leaves behind it. Yeah that yeah now. I don't know what we did or did not know about comments in nineteen twenty. I'm sure we knew more than i presume. But anyway the main character. Whose name is jim davis. Which i this story was written. Probably before the creator of garfield was born. So i don't wanna hit maybe. His parents named him after. Jim davis from this okay. Jim davis loves his on. Your hates mondays communist coming into spider in the book. That says this is taking place on a monday. So it's possible wherever it is possible to make this guy canonical. Jim davis the creator of garfield. I think that you need to make it work. So he is referred to early in the book as the messenger of the one of the first kind spreads. The message of garfield okay. I'm sorry i know it's fine. It's what we're trying to have some fun because it's it's a heavy topic. Even though i think it is a pretty like blunt bluntly handled in this short story. here the messenger. Jim when i get start call. It starts getting called. The messenger works for a bank in new york on broadway. Maybe he runs messages. Who knows what would that is over the course of the story there's a lot more like biblical language and references to holy your divine things that i know from boys background that he broke with organized religion kind of early in his life. So i don't know that he is like specifically channeling one denomination here. It is more just kind of connected to this idea of being above our base human selves. I think he's do deliberately invoking biblical language because it's very loaded as we get to adam and eve scenario at the end of this story but who Jim nez bank and the president of the bank is like. Hey you go in the basement. We left some stuff down there and the basements flooded so. Could you just go down there and get it for me at this point. The story has not explicitly told you that. Jim davis is a black man again breaking from the canon of the creation of garfield but The jim davidson. This story is a black man Which you learn a little bit later fiction again. Yeah i suppose. And i knew coming into my reading of it that that was the case but i think it's a little bit ways in before actually tells you that he has to go down there. It's clear that he gets crappy jobs right he. It's like that show good job crappy jobs dirty jobs. It's like that show dirty jobs and while he's down there in the flooded bank vault. The vault door slammed shut because the comet has flown over. new york. City is very scary. Very spooky down there. He has to get his way out of the gunk and the mess You wouldn't want to be in a flooded underground under broadway. Who knows what's down there. Typically no. I don't think that i would not be not be good. He comes up and it is essentially like you know in zombie movie when someone wakes up from a coma and they're like why are all these people dead. Yes is that okay. And so. I didn't know if you were waiting for an answer for me or not. Always waiting for an answer from you andrew. It is like that he comes up. He seized the bank. President is and he's like off crap. If people find me near this dead bank president. I'm gonna be in trouble. And then he's like. Oh no everyone's dead he manages. We'll find me near all these people is going to be trouble. And it is really like a mass extinction event He makes his way to fifth avenue. How silent the street was. Not a soul was stirring yet. It was high noon wall street broadway. He glanced almost wildly up and down then across the street and as he looked sickening horror frozen his limbs when they choking cry of utter fright he lunged leaned giddily against the co building and stared helplessly at the site in the great stone. Doorway a hundred men and women and children they crushed and twisted and jammed forced into that great gaping doorway like refuse in a can as if in one word wild frantic rush to safety they had rushed and grounded themselves to death so there's some striking imagery in his like apocalypse. Stuff sure that. I've certainly encountered versions of in your walking dead's in take your you know your wide last man. You know whatever it might be where all of a sudden a bunch of people are gone or dot it has like a pompeii quality where a lot of people have died very quickly while they were doing something else they may or may not have had time to get to safety and about just bad stuff went down He does pick up a newspaper. That says warnings wired around the world the comet's tail sweeps past us at noon. Delete gases expected closed doors and windows seek the seller so the explanation of what happened to new york city in this story is that the comet flew over. Earth farted deadly gas on everyone specifically on new york city and our man jim was underground so he survived d- of all the people in new york city. He's the only one who found a basement. I yes so okay well. He sits on his glasses wall. Well he one of the first things he does is he. He is starving. He's you know he's freaked out and he finds himself hungry. He goes to a restaurant and remarks that he would not have been able to eat there. If the people running the restaurant were still alive. Yes one of the first explicit references to his race and to his place in america's racists systems he gets a car he's driving around city find. Nobody casually driving over body is in a way that's callously horrific as you read it sure And then he here's a woman crying from the upper over home. Her name is julia. She's like oh my god i'm up here what's going on. You're down there in a car. That's driving someone come helped me. And they are each surprised when they find each other that she is a white woman and he is a black man She had not noticed before that he was negro thought of her as white There's also a class difference of course because she was in her photography dark room developing film at the time and remarks later in the story. That doesn't really have a job. She's been idle and her dad runs a bank and he like works in the basement of a bank so incidents coincidence and so when she asked him what's going on. He says something comet or devil swept across the earth again throughout the story. There's a lot of these references to things that are not purely scientific Even though i think i'll get to my point about that about why. I think maybe boys is taking the piss out of some of that stuff. Okay They drive to harlem to check on his family. He believes that they are dead or gone. They drive to her father's bank. They find a note that said he was out. Joyriding someone else's car No no it's that's a weird not leave. That's a weird like i guess. Unless you're doing a video game where you're trying to leave just like atmospheric flavor tech's all around. I don't know why that would be a thing that you document it's really convenient in strange y- i assume they're just like cracking safes and picking up like audio logs all over the new york city to find out the stuff that happened everybody. They are driving all over the city. They drive it's beginning to smell. It's gross. Oh yeah i would be terrible. If new york city began to smell dang. God there's some moments where we are. It's not you know it's a close third person and it shifts back and forth between the two of them we get some stuff from her close perspective where she says he did not look like men as she had always pictured men but he acted like one and she was content so over the course of the story she more so than he is like. Well i guess this is guy that's left on earth. Maybe i should let the racism. Go like it's you know i. This is Okay this is the. I'm glad she's getting there. I guess it's taking awhile. It's taking but that's fine. But destruction of the human race is knows it but she is thinking for the first time she seemed to realize that she was alone in the world with a stranger but something more than a stranger with a man alien blood and culture unknown perhaps unknowable. It was awful. She must escape. This is after they go to a phone operators booth try to call out of new york city and get no answer and she's like oh my god should i run away and she realizes that she is too scared to do that. they go to like a cabling station and they have a moment where they look at each other the vision of a mighty beauty of vast unspoken things swelled in their souls. But they put it away. They're beginning to come to the conclusion that yes. We are. The only ones here. What are we going to do about that when we actually stop looking for help like what are we going to do when all of our because they do a couple of different things to try and get help finally there on the roof of the bank. They have set off fireworks in hopes of alerting. Anyone who might be out there and they have like an exchange about how their lives have been different about They call death the great leveler and the great revealed and they maybe maybe they're going to have sex and start the human race again nice. They don't say this out loud to each other. But in the close third person she begins to conceive of herself no pun intended as the primal woman bride of life and seeing him as the all father of the race to be and as he is looking at her on the roof of this bank He is beginning to shed How the world perceives him I liked this quote up from the crash and crushing and cringing of his cast. Leapt the loan. Majesty of kings long dead. They move toward each other. They lift their hands to one another. He says the world is dead. Car start talking. It's like the it is like the most do balloon deflating as the book sets them up to be the new adam and eve and here he is and then hong kong hong some more fireworks and then a group of white men show up on the roof of her and it's her dad because he was joy riding no good. I'm glad that he's here. And she instantly leaves him goes her dad. All the white guys are just saying the n. Word and being like this guy and it's pretty rough. 'cause you know is interesting. How like they were gonna literally save the human race and it was going to be a divine transcendence of Racism and terrible things and is there is literally any other option. That wasn't that young lady. Pick that yeah cool high. She does say that he rescued her. She does not look at him again. Her dad gives him some money to like go away which is really gross And then the story. They learned that it was not just. It was just new york city. Excuse me that was the only place that got affected So because he was joy riding he was safe. I guess And a black woman emerges from the group on the elevator at the end calling gyms name and running to him. You might presume that she's his wife. It's not laid out explicitly and that's the story and that's the end okay. So the the book has this. As i've been talking about along the way this like it is in conversation with a kind of spiritual call for transcendence of humanity at n. I think there's a couple of spots in this story and essay collection where the boys has written like little hymns And this one has one that has a quote that's like save us from our lesser selves. Grant us that war and hatred cease. Reveal our in every race in hugh calling for humanity to literally be better. But i think that this book all the story also pokes a hole in that because they are feeling these divine feelings she is feeling them and then like the second. That as you said it's anything else is there. It all goes away. Like all of that stuff is very flimsy. Yeah the existing hierarchy. Yeah and and yet. And then just as like a bit of speculative fiction or sifi kind of stuff. It's this like the notion of a potentially equitable world. Only being made possible through massive catastrophe. Right i mean what. I can't think of anything that would happen in our recently. That would have brought up these kinds of questions. I don't know. I really don't and as a work of like you know black john ritter fiction just thinking about stuff like lovecraft country and Jefferson's work but also watchmen stuff where it's like playing in space. I dunno it genre can't and often. Purposefully doesn't escape the realities of the world in which it set or the world in which it's red sure So yeah. I didn't know this story existed. It was caught cool and sat in the ways. I expected it to be sad. When i heard about the blurb of but i think it's also interesting as it's like it takes this kind of tropy. Odinga comet premise and it wasn't a comet like like. Oh dang an apocalypse premise. But it wasn't like odd slapped into the earth and everything exploded came through and gap like there was gas or so. Is this a little different. Along the way than i expected which was kinda sure. Sure sure. that's the comment by wbz. Okay boys. that's a good story. I got some stories to tell you about too. 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Bye inter- you read a story. This week i did. I did read the store. would you tell me about it. My sorry was a lot of stories. Actually i saw was four stories. So i did four times as much as we have talked about ursula kayla gwynne before yes we have yes so we back in episode two eighty to one of us. I think it was you. Goodness cannot remember which of us did read the dispossessed believers all right. I have to go back and listen citation needed. But she was born in one thousand twenty nine and died in two thousand eighteen. I think that's why we read that book when we read it. Actually oh yeah. Because i'd read. I read the ones who walk away from almost like hundred episodes before but we those another short story. Yes yes So she was an american author and she was a she was well known for her. Fantasy and sci fi work best known series include the the heinous Series which is where the deep the deepest dispossessed. Yeah comes from and then also the wizard of earth see. yes yes. So if you've heard of her is probably from that. If you go back to the dispossessed we talk about her a little bit more yes But yeah so. This book like i said up top is called a woeful tales from michael. I'm not sure if i'm pronouncing that correctly. Tried to find something. And i think you are going to have to put out as you said it was collection changing planes right. Yes changing planes which came out in two thousand and three and a one. A two thousand and four locus award for best collection A lot of these short stories that appeared in other publications before but they were gathered together in this book which is themed around this like frame narrative of like the narrator is telling you stories from different planes of existence and the reason why we can travel between these planes because while people were waiting at the airport being bored like waiting between flights they discovered that if you like moved your hands and just just a specific way you could instantly travel between where he were plane and so it's about i'd say changing planes and kind of about planes but it's also about planes of existence love it. I love a pun with multiple uses. Okay but it's just a big old group of short stories not really interconnected by any particular threat. It's just a bunch of like imagine ursula kayla gwynne doing a bunch of like creative writing class. World building prompts gathered them altogether. And that's changing. It's a mini game collection. It's we sports but book sure. Yeah just like we. And i don't mean that pejoratively we sports it's like warrior wear but for littering. No that's more like a poem book. But yeah i get what you're saying. This in terms of the quantity of things on offer here. I think is more like warrior. We're fair enough okay. Please tell me about this story. So this is. This is a frame narrative within the overarching like airport. Plane traveler assured someone is telling us when when they come to my goal. They like to hang out at library and they talk about how the library is of. It's very lush. Inverted and cool and comfortable and it's just a great place to hang and so when they when they're here they like to go to the library and they like to read fiction or history and they say history usually because the history of michael goal out does. The fiction of many other places is the saddened violent history and so sweet and lenient a place as the reading gardens. It seems both possible and wise to open one's heart to folly pain and sorrow these are view the stories of red sitting in the autumn sunlight on the grassy edge of a stream or in the deep shade of silent secret little patio or a hot summer on a hot summer afternoon in the library of my goal okay. Are you ready for some story. I am ready for multiple stories. You told me that there would be more than one. The first story is about the sky. Dow o'donnell dowa dough the innumerable hell. Yeah da w. o. d. o. w. dow dow dow did come up with different ways to pronounce this. Yeah the entire rest of the episode but yes so. He was the fiftieth emperor of the fourth dynasty of michael. Of course it was and this guy was like make more statues of me. Yeah all the statues that exist of all the other emperors that exists all around this empire changing would be about me and said and then make a bunch of other statues and also make them of me and so you get every city in every little town is throughout this entire empire has like even the littlest tiniest little thatched roof cottages have like ten statues of the sky and sometimes he go he likes to go incognito and he likes to around to the statues a likes to talk about how stupid they are what the emperor would go about in the streets and plazas of the capitol and stop it every image or group of images of himself. He would jeer softly at the statues in solving them in a whisper. Calling them coward. Fool cuckold impotent. Idiot spit on a statue as he passed it. And craig i need you to hold onto your butts for this. He if he saw no one else in the plaza he would stop and piss on the statue or piss on earth to make mud and then taking this money in his hand rub it on the face of the image of himself and over the inscription extolling the glories of his reign. If a citizen reported next day the had seen an image of the emperor defiled in this way the guards would arrest countryman or a foreigner. Anyone who came to hand nobody else was convenient. They arrested the citizen who reported the crime accused him sacrilege and torture him until he died or confessed. So this is just this whole story which is basically over at this point. Is this about this emperor who wants lots of statues of himself to be made to glorify himself but then he wants to walk around and rub peanut in their faces and talk about how bad they are. You like this is. This is what people think of me versus while i think of me like i think all of our sub consciousness are just walking around like rubbing p mud on our faces. Because we aren't good yeah and other neighboring villages new. Yeah and you're like no. I'm gonna put peanut mud on the statue. We report where he says why. He's putting the pima on the statue now. He's not explicitly trying to use it to wipe out dissidents no rain for thirty seven years garage privy by his great nephew donde. Okay for p. Mud go off. What is this guy's deal. That's the first store okay. What how does that bleed into the next door. Does it bleed into the. here's another story about. The my goal is wonderful. Place sick all right. It was okay. So it's telling us something a little bit about how power works in my he goal which is very public and also you can get very private about it. Rub your mud on it. You're reading a little sue much into the amount of like continuous world building. That the story. Tokyo sure sure this is a this story called. The cleansing of oak tree is a little bit heavier. It's not about cairo. P madonna statue. She's It is a story about like a province of the mongol empire and It is about these two different people's the stanza and the sosa. Nice sammy sosa the sosa. Okay and they both move into the same sort of plot of land and they are very different from each other but they basically get along for a while The opinion of the socio was that they were slow dense deceitful and indefatigable how you pronounce in indefatigable indefatigable. Yep okay the susa opinion of out of the word and it changed how everything functions. Yeah the socio opinion of the estonia was that they were quick. Clever candid in unpredictable. But what happens is the Sosa believe have big families and they just have twelfth thirteenth and fifteenth kids and the astara halves mar fails two or three kids. And eventually this. Oh become so much more numerically than the a sasa that sunlight populist political leader comes to power and tries to wipe all of them out like everybody who's not associated out and they are all fighting each other and then outside kingdom comes in and finding very little resistance because everybody's basically killed each other they take over the kingdom and then it just becomes absorbed into this my goal empire and the only people who the only way to win. This game is not to play. Only the taobh people far up in the mountains remained much as they had always been poor herds folk no religion worth fighting over the anonymous author of the great mystical poem. The ascent a work which has made the province of oaktree famous on more than one plane was a t- obe I liked it. I liked it. They're references to in fiction like legends and writings about it. That's fun that's always fun to. Yeah it's all like there was a The introduction to this short story collection written by karen joy fowler is talks a little bit about the the the way this book hits you when you read all these stories. Sure she says. I don't claim that it's a league wins. Best or most influential or the most likely to be subjective papers and study or the most likely to survive the next hundred years. I can't even claim that it's la- book that had the greatest impact on me That would surely be the left hand of darkness and yet remains my favorite. It overflows with all those things i love. In my gwen books. The wit wisdom the wielding language the intermingling of the grim in the playful and the absolutely stunning surfeit of imagination. Changing planes is a virtuoso display. World creation a brilliant. Gulliver is travelogue of a book They totally like even with with the the stories within stories of this where there are also a sensibly taking place in the same like but have no real through line. Yeah you're just getting a cool story. Prompt that then you you could use to craft this much bigger world or book if you wanted to but league wins is kinda dash ma. Well i'm interested to hear about the next two because it's like you look at the four of them like what kind of place could contain these poor story in. What kind of place could contain these four stories and then also would become just like a cool chill peaceful place with a nice library at the end of the day. Like where do you. How do you get from here to there. Sure question that. I don't think you really get resolved for you in the game that you play a home all right heavy with story. Three story number three the black dog. Oh i love that song. It's a great led zeppelin song this is about a couple of tribes the hoa and the foreign they grow up in these two separate villages and every once in a while they just kinda fight each other. Yeah and you know. Some people die but both sides go back home with you. Know a couple of the bodies of their slain enemies and they each declare victory and everybody gets to be happy and because everybody feels like they won. It's like another like six months or a year before has happened again. People have kinda achieved in equilibrium. I guess you might say sure you might. But then once to one of these battles the hoa they bring this big old. Black dog is a big dog. it's back was his highs. Ammann's wasted its head would massive arena leaps and bounds eyes gleamed red foam slathered from its gaping log onto draws and it crowd hideously And this dog like goes to town on all the far enough it kills the war chief it chews up his bones and leaves only gnawed bones and it kills a bunch of people in the furry get driven back to their village and they are like a minute. This went bad. We lost this widen lost this one gang. Yeah like hatfield mccoys. All of a sudden mccoy's had a big talk if they have dog. And it's like world war one where this trench warfare accepts. There's a big french. Got a big black dog. Say dog in french own. How do share lucian this year. Wa are oh the grow sheehan noir. Long inlet ranch. That's a lot of french people. While they're like that's really pad and tried to attack the hoa again in. This big dog drives them off and makes them crawl back to their village. And this is becoming untenable. Okay but didn't big. Black dog comes to the hoa tribe and they're like let's we and then they feed the big black dogs food. It's like hey this black dog way. I'm getting things mixed up. He comes the big. Black dog comes and helps the hoa. Okay and he he kills the he fights a bunch of the freemen kills and then they're like man. We didn't win this one either now. We got oh man. This big dog is really cramp. Our style is a big dog work for. I don't know who the big black dog works work. But so what happens. Is the women of each tribe who they all. The women of each tribe speak the same language as each other while the men like speak different languages of each other. Women form the sort of like underclass backbone of the society where they talked to. They're like what's the deal with this big black and they all band together and they feed the big black dog poisoned food and kill a big black dog. Oh well not no because then everything goes back to normal and everybody can be happy again. I was kind of a fan of big black dog of ood. Big black dog seems like kind of a jerk thereafter the frame rate rated a ho and the hoda of the rated the fremont reasonable intervals and they fought to the death on the traditional customary battlefields and came home victorious with their dead who watched the warriors. Dance the victory dance. We're satisfied so really. This was a patch that affected each tribe where they got where each one got a little bit more stronger than the other one for a little while and then they rolled the patch. The patch the patch out the big black dog and then always well again. Okay sure it's about imbalance in power conflicts. Dig it dig it. Yeah okay did you. Could just we could spend our where you just say pig black. Talk to me and bunch. And i'm going to enjoy. I don't even think that's how the story like about how big he is causing the black dog capital capital g. Yeah dig it. A story number four. Let's close it out the number four. I mean they're all good. And as i tell you about them. I appreciate them more. They're all your children. This might be my fav- okay. I don't play favorites. Sure this is called the war across the alon. God this is about to city states may yun and hoy they. Are you know their rivals. But they live next to each other and they both think that they threw like divine right have claim to this tiny little narrow strip of land. It has made clear several times that this is like includes this river but it's like half a mile wide and a couple of miles long but it's the only overlap and they continue fighting over it over and over and over again. Yeah i've never heard of that in the news shirt. Yeah so one of the sides invents dynamite and they blow the riverbank up and they divert the river so it goes on their territory and then they go over to the other side and they're like hey you know let's like bygones be bygones we're fine with how everything is right now. It's okay like let's let's make peace and it'll be fine. And this begins this war of attrition where each side keeps blowing up this tract of land and diverting and read diverting the river until many many years later he henceforth the territorialism of the two cities states was expressed almost entirely an explosion. The many soldiers and citizens and a great many cows were killed as technological. Improvements led to evermore powerful agents of destruction. Which could blow up ever larger quantities of earth. These changes these charges were never planted as minds with the intention of killing their sole purpose was to fulfill the great aim of maine hoi to change the course of the river so for one hundred years they just blow this thing sick. Yeah mixed at the end of one hundred years. They have blown this gigantic canyon into the ground. A kenyan that each of their cities is actually getting dangerously close to know and so what happens now. Is that like half of may you learn falls into the canyon And then they're like. Hey gang we gotta stop this but then everybody turns out okay at the end because everybody wants to come see the great city of hyun which is like half fallen into this canyon but when they do it they want to stay in the city of hoy which has better hotels food service is that true. Yeah and have an hoy. Has they have no more cows pastures but they live off tourists loose hand. What is left of me. Yun is the advantage of a dramatic picturesque site which attracts thousands of visitors every year but most of the visitors actually stay in hallway where the food is better and which is only a very short stroll from the east room with its marvelous views of the canyon and the half buried ruins of tourist and serve as economies for the win. I suppose yeah. I guess like they used to have resources but now they just have stuff. That looks cool. That people weren't come see so when that story. The story of the american west. Why why was this story. Your favourite andrew. I just like the. I like the idea of them blowing up this big kenyan in the earth until one of the city's falls into it and then they come to a mutually agreeable solution to the big problem. They made sure okay. But i know you like the big black dog won the best. Because i kept saying big lock. Dog yes cool. I like that does is there. A is rapper. At the end of this and i don't mean like common. I mean like no no. That's the end. That goes into the next and he goes in the next door. Okay cool so. I don't know that there's a lesson except the thing that we talked about earlier where you just get to sit and wonder how the civilizations pictured here develop into the one that you see in the frame. Narrative of the beginning of the book sure shorter shore but each of these four sources. Just takes an idea and like runs with it and doesn't have to think about the aftermath. In a way that i think is nice. Like it's not like a three hundred page thing where you have to like delve into the ruins of old may june or like find out where this big black dog came from l. Maybe he came from a third tribe and he's trying to play the two tribes against each other like no stopping. About how long would you say each story was. Oh just a few pages. This whole this whole run of book. It's like twenty pages long. Okay sure sure. Yeah i think. I think the comet was probably twenty five or thirty pages total so like yeah these sound like they are kind of like little essays little creative essays about how getting down you get so many like visually memorable things you get. The you know the half collapsed city into the into the canyon. You get the big black dog you get the emperor who rubs his own pee on his face of his own. Yeah uh-huh be thinking about that one. Yeah you're thinking about it doesn't seem character-driven except for the emperor though in place is idiot historical records as short story more. Yeah def definitely definitely okay. You don't get to know individuals other than emperor mud and burpee mud. That's his name now. Whether or not he he's gonna have to wipe p mud on our podcast because he's said about how we've depicted him well if he didn't want us to do that he wouldn't have repeated all over a stash through he earned it. That's true did Well thanks for telling me about the stories you time reading them. You're welcome is fun. Yeah i mean if any of the stories are as good as those for. I think i should probably go back and read more of them. Yes i'm is fine. I this is fun opportunity for us to tell our listeners. Go read some more w. e. b. The boys go read some more Kayla gwynne put them in your rotation we had some fun this week If you wanna know who what if you wanna email us about the stories we read you can send us an e mail over deposited tim o. Dot com is on twitter and facebook at overdue pod. Twitter and facebook said those Thanks to melissa. James lana Out elax. Alex is what i meant to say. Tasha gonzo starve. Schick annabel tom. Rebecca kyle liam and more for reaching out to us this week. Our theme song is by nikola randers. Thank you nick andrew. If folks want to know more about the show where do they go overdo podcasts. Dot coms at website. There ever links to apple podcasts and google or rss feed. And we're also institure in spotify if you subscribe through apple podcast you rate and review us if you have something good. Say if you don't let her know maybe just forget maybe. Just forget to do with this. Go to baffle podcast. And we love a constructive review but like maybe forget to do it for a little bit. Yeah we also have links to the books that we have read and are going to read linked to our patriot. Pot project patriot dot com slash overdue pod. We are just posting the first in our jagged. Little mill series about the grossman translation. Of don quixote by miguel days avantis. Yup feel like. We're going to centralize pronunciation of that one of these days. There's a lot of things to say when we say that. And after a few episodes we can just say jagged little mill donkey otane. We'll get out of there. Yeah and then craig. You hit him with our february schedule gang this week in february a story week was a holiday that i made up and the next week andrew's going to tell us about the ziggurat by gene wolfe. After that i'm going to tell you about the stone sky broken earth number three by enga- jemison we're in close out the month of february with a promised land by barack hussein obama Franken meals gonna join us for that one and we do have a bonus episode this month. In addition to the don quixote work. We're gonna do a and am so we haven't done one in a few years You can go back and find those. While i'll put on internet wh- those episodes are if you put you put it on the internet. But you can email us with qna in the subject header if you want that considered But go back and listen to those episodes. I so we're probably gonna try not to answer questions twice. Go come on. Yeah you guys deserve no more and no less Next week is ziggurat Tune in for that one andrew. Get us outta here alright. 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11 Trivia Questions on Fictional Johns

Trivia With Budds

13:35 min | 2 years ago

11 Trivia Questions on Fictional Johns

"It's eleven trivia questions on fictional. John's three hints, and you tell me who I'm talking about this is trivia with buds. Get be and welcome to another episode of the trivia with buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan buds. Thanks for checking out this show. It's all about fictional. John's today came to be three clues. And you tell me who were talking about these John's will all be from TV and movies and books and things like that songs. Maybe but there will be no real jobs. So like, no Jon Stewart's. No John Quincy Adams is. And they will all be fictional. So I'll give you those three clues you tell me who were talking about. We've done some of these type arounds before where I give the three clues and you tell me the answer. So if you want to go back and search the feed for some of those, you can find some of those in our four hundred and fifty other episodes of this show, we've been doing it for about two and a half years now. And thanks for being a member of our patriots page that helps the show come out every single day and you can join it. Patriotic dot com slash trivia with buds, all the new members that join this month in June. We'll get a special little care package of. Assign shark NATO headshot a trivia with buds button and a sticker. So check that out again, patriot dot com slash trivia with buds big fun summer plans ahead this weekend. I'll be in San Francisco at cluster fest. If you happen to be going to cluster fest, put on my comedy, central comedy fest and music festival, and they have a drunk history tent for the show drunk history. I'll be helping run that drunk history, tent with Mr. Derek waters host and creator of drunk history. So that should be a ton of fun. That's this Saturday night at seven forty five pm Also Sunday. I believe it's at two pm. So two shows this weekend at cluster fest near Golden Gate park in San Francisco. If you are in that area, stop by and say Hello. I will be in Chattanooga on July. Seventh Chattanooga Tennessee, Disney marvel Star Wars trivia at southside social tickets are available at tribute, buds dot com in the banner at the top of the website. If you have a good tribute team name. Always looking for some new ones to recommend people. Maybe you have a fun pun that you haven't heard before. I mentioned one that I hadn't heard the other day called the Frank Lloyd wrongs. Maybe something like that. Maybe you use a certain name every single week with your squad where you play trivia, send me an Email with some recommendations. So I can make a nice new blog post about some new trivia team names for teams to come up with and you can send those team names to Ryan buds at g mail dot com. I would appreciate it. And it'll be fun to chat with you about your team, names, and maybe what you like about the show or don't like about the show. That's always encouraged our guys were to jump into today's episode. It's all about famous John's. A fictional characters around from me. Here we go. All right. We're onto some famous John's trivia here are the first three hints for your first fictional. John number one appeared in sixty two episodes of something number two has a mother named Ana and number three just the word ghost. Those are your three clues. Number one, hint. Number one appeared in sixty two episodes of something hit number two has a mother named Liana or Lana and hit number three ghost. All right. Moving onto number two. Here's your first hint in early comic strips he was a cartoonist. Second hint frequently dates a woman named Liz, and third hint was created by Jim Davis. That's fictional, John. Number two. Comes number three, six movies contain at least a mention of this character. His parents are Kyle and Sarah and the word machines. What fictional John? Are we talking about their six movies contain a mention of this character is parents are Kyle and Sarah and machines? Number four, the first hint played by Judd Nelson in a hit eighty s film, always in detention and battles with principal Vernon. Number four Judd Nelson detention principal Vernon. Moving onto number five. Halfway through this little quiz from around that I used my life trivia nights last week, number one for number five hit number one for number five. A Stephen King character on death row. Small mouse. Those are your three hints. Stephen King character on death row. Small mouse, number five. Number six assassin dogs death, and revenge. Number six assassin dogs death, and revenge. Question for seven people always shout kids song and four names. Those are your three hints people. Always shout kids song four names number seven. Question number eight year firsthand failed, two thousand twelve movie. Second hint, Taylor kitsch and third hint. Willem Dafoe, one of those three things add up to number eight what fictional John could that be? Number nine Arnold character. Who is your daddy, and what does he do? In the classroom. Those are your three hints are an old character is the first hint. Second hint who is your daddy. And what does he do? That's a quote in number three in the classroom. That's number nine. Hop it into number ten. Here's the first hint walking through the forest. Second, hint large bear. Third. Hint voiced by Phil Harris walking through the forest large bear, voiced by Phil Harris. And your bonus question little bit tougher than the others. Let's see if you can get it for two points if you're playing along at home, I hint, never grow up hint. Number two brother with glasses hint. Number three, nineteen fifty three animated movie. Never grow up brother with glasses, Fifty-three animated movie. Those are your questions for the famous John's round again. They're all fictional, to make sure none of the people, you've written down, or have yelled out loud, in your car with somebody else are not real people. And if you're having fun, maybe wanna book me for an event guys. You can always do that by going to trivia with buds dot com and click on contact or you can text me anytime. Four two four two six five one two one two that's four two four two six five one two one two I love to host them. Bingo. Some trivia some comedy for your next event. Whether it's a work thing or graduation party, or what have you. And whether you live near or far we can make it work. We'll be right back in just a second with the answers to famous fictional Johns. Here we go with the answers to famous fictional John's. Let's see how many of these you got. Right, number one appeared, in sixty two episodes of something as a mother named Lana and ghost that was Jon snow from game of thrones just wrap that series finale. What happened to John snow? I didn't see it. Maybe you did. Number two, hint. Number one was in early comic strips. He was a cartoonist. He frequently dated a woman named Liz for hint to and hint. Three was created by Jim Davis. That was Jon arbuckle Garfield and ody's owner. John are buckle. Big nerd in the comics. And if you want to search something funny, look up Garfield, what is it Garfield without Garfield something like that? And it's just Jon arbuckle talking to himself, and it's real sad and depressing. Check that out from five or six years ago. Number three, hit number one, six movies contain at least dimension to this character. Number two is parents are Kyle and Sarah and number three machines. John Connor from the Terminator series, a movie that I've never seen the first Terminator. I've seen. I think I've seen to think I've seen four, I think I've seen salvation I've seen like a real scattered amount of those movies, but never saw the first one posted on Instagram the other day. And people lost their mind. I had like which one of these things is not true about me or one of these things is true. And that was the thing that was true. I hadn't seen Terminator. And somebody just messaged me and said, I always knew you were real piece of shit. Wow. People are mad about that number four hit, number one, played by Judd Nelson and eighties film, always in detention and battles with principal, Vernon. That was John bender from the breakfast club. The breakfast club. John bender watched that allowed grownup, number five Stephen King character on death row. A small mouse John Coffey played by the late. Michael Clarke Duncan, whilst played kingpin in the Ben Affleck, daredevil movie. But in this movie, some great acting and very sad scenes in this movie, John coffee, number six assassin dogs death revenge. If you were playing along live with me saw a title slide depicting this character, and that was John wick, John. John wick number seven hint. One people always shout kids song for hint to and hit three was four names. Jon Jacob jingle Heimer Schmidt. Remember that song? I remember it from Barney as a kid. Let's see. I think Barney came out in ninety two ninety three. So I was probably six seven something like that eight, and I remember them singing that song all the time, number eight hit number one failed two thousand twelve movie hint to Taylor kitsch hint. Three Willem Dafoe. John Carter of Mars never saw that movie. Some people say it's not too bad. John Carter, but it was kind of a big box office bomb. Number nine Arnold character who is your daddy, and what does he do in the classroom? John Kimball from kindergarten cop Arnold. Schwarzenegger's kindergarten cop. And there's a kindergarten cop to with, I think, dolph Lundgren, if you want to go check that one out, straight to video came out a couple of years ago bought it at the dollar store number ten walking through the forest large bear voiced by Phil Harris little John from Robin Hood. Disney's, Robin Hood, little John. And Robin Hood walking through the forest. Your bonus was also a Disney movie at one two and three never grow up brother with glasses nineteen Fifty-three animated movie. The answer was John darling from Peter Pan. The brother with a top hat and the glasses. John, darling. And it was hard for people to remember that last name. Peter Pan family darling at the live events. But maybe you figured it out. I hope you did guys, thank you so much for listening to this episode of the show comes out every single day. If you wanna hit subscribe to get new episodes daily on your device do that now. And if you dig the show leave us, an IT tunes review, there's one hundred and fourteen on there, and I would love to get some more by the end of the summer. So leave a couple reviews if you are a couple of people listening that will be very, very cool, if you'd help get more is on the show these east way, you can help me promote is just Tele friend who likes trivia who likes to play along an answer questions and hear people talk about pop culture. You can just let them know send a link share a link posted on their wall say, hey. Check this out and I. You'll dig it. And I would dig you for telling them to dig it. They'll be very cool, if you want to support the show, monetarily, patriot dot com slash trivia with buds, and you can join for just a buck, and get access to our chat room on discord, where we share a bunch of fun, trivia, and things. I actually just posted the questions in the slides for this very round famous fictional. John's in the discord abject today. If people wanted to kind of play while they're at work, and they haven't listened to this episode yet and things like that. So he posts them supplemental. Material in there, and we get some fun chats going, and people like Luke McKay will post questions in there from Australia and people can answer them. So it's tons of fun. It's time for the trivia with buds question of the day brought to you by funky monkey designs of sandy, miss California. Check them out at FM designs, Inc dot com for all your varsity, jacket and embroidery needs. They are your printing company. They do everything in San demons, and they do great work, and we'll be sending out some cool fun prizes from them to some lucky listeners of this show. Today's question today is about a famous John company and that's John Deere. What two colors are prominent in the John Deere logo? If you know the answer to that question you can tweet me at Ryan buds, you can ask me on Instagram at Ryan buds. You can find me on Facebook Ryan buds trivia with buds or you can Email me Ryan buds, g mail dot com. If you're the first person to send me that answer that is correct with the to correct colors for John Deere. I will send you something cool in the mail. It's as easy as that. Thank you guys, so much for listening to this episode. Thanks for telling a friend and. We'll see you tomorrow. For more trivia with buds. Cheers.

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Crypto for Creators: From Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles

a16z

20:14 min | 8 months ago

Crypto for Creators: From Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles

"The content here is for informational purposes. Only should not be taken as legal business tax or investment advice or be used evaluate any investment or security and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a sixteen fund. For more details please see a sixteen z dot com slash disclosures. Welcome to the sixteen podcast homes or in this episode features as with two artists who are exploring crypto powered auction sites and marketplace's. This is part of our ongoing series on the creator economy. The big picture is that innovations. Like non fungible tokens or. Nfc's are creating new ways for collectors and investors to buy sell and trade digital art and marketplace's powered by nfc's open up new revenue streams for creators. because anytime digital art is resold. No matter how many times down the line the creator gets a percentage of the secondary sales. It's all transparent and governed by code on the blockchain and it's a big shift in crater economies. Our first guest is one of the biggest names in crypto in one of the most mysterious mourad park the artist and industrial designer who created the ai powered image sharing site arc. Elect pockets made it a policy to separate their personal identity from their online work and prefers to keep their quote unquote really identity hidden. So we conducted this interview by email and converted pox answers to audio using text to speech. Software as puck is expressed another interviews. It's really the work that batters and we do know a lot about the work package sold more than sixty pieces of digital art this year on the auction site superior for more than three hundred and fifty thousand dollars and that's just one of the several platforms on which pox work is sold in this. Qna we talk about an and how they will be the basis for many new business models in the future that go far beyond art but we start by asking about the whole concept of digital art. Why would someone pay a lot of money for something that seems like it could easily copied. Here's park communicating via text to speech. You see that's a tricky question because the newcomer assumes that it can be copied but in reality. The collector of the nf t does not obtain a digital file. They get a unique and sign. Token that cannot be copied are owned by anyone else. So assuming that. Nf teas can be right. Click save as copied as very similar to the assumption of going to the loo to take a picture of mona lisa to own it or taking a picture of a plane ticket to copy it. Nafta is not about the visible object. It's about the permission and access to a thing. It's only a matter of time until it becomes accepted in a wider sense. Every new medium for art had this struggle for acceptance having this struggle as not bad. It's good when the argument is over. This conflict resolution will be the thing that will make crypto based start valid from my personal perspective. This is not a conflict or questioning of is this art or not. It's more of a questioning of. Is this unique enough or not. And sooner or later it will be understood. What was the dominant commercial model for artists. In the past. And how might crypto. Change that i've never categorized myself as an artist. Even though a portion of what. I do design shirley touches art therefore i believe a better word for a crypto artist. Should be crypto creator from a design point of view. The options are working fulltime for studios working as a freelancer or having your own. Studio for crypto art. It's currently closer to the second one. The freelancer model. However there is an important detail a design client needs your work but an art collector wants your work sometimes. It feels better to be wanted the needed. What was your first exposure to crypto. And how did your interest develop. I was able to meet bitcoin and make moves before. Its initial explosion being interested in value concepts as long as i can remember. I was instantly charmed by the idea of how value is transformed to this new exchangeable form. Nfc's on the other hand are new to me. The first time i met with an tease was when crypto kitties contacted me to create an architect kitty when they were forming today. Nf teas are more than just little. Fun pieces i believe in the technology at defends therefore i am happy to make waves in this branch of technological revolution and evolution. How do mft's make it more attractive for creators. To become crypto creators. It's similar to cars. becoming electric. Cars crypto creator is not a term that defines a special group of creators. In my opinion. It's only this now new soon to be norm term for digital tradeables in other words when it's so easy to make it happen for any creator. Why not so most of the activity around cryptos financial trading borrowing lending investing in crypto currencies. What are the characteristics of crypto. That might hold appeal for artists designers and other creators creation and destruction of value as always charming for any kind of creator. What advice would you give creators. Who are interested in exploring crypto as a new model for selling their work experiment so pack. You've been working at the intersection of technology and art for some time. Apart from their possible financial advantages for artists to crypto on the blockchain or the idea of a decentralized technology in general wholesome deeper cultural meaning or symbolism in your view anything can carry symbolism it depends on the receiver rather than the source i value innovation. I value creation of value. And i try to exist on that line where something new pushes. The limits of. What's widely known. Of course decentralisation of things holds a future of a new culture of technology many new norms and standards and many branches in known directions. And that's exactly the reason to be. They're almost like the internet just before it went mainstream. So let's talk about revenue for artists will nfc's lead to a relatively small number of creators making good money. This generally been the case in traditional art business models or do you think the distribution of wealth might become more equitable with crypto art. Auctions are a completely different world and would not be fair to estimate. Nf tease based on that. Of course an f. t. based and supported art will have its own audience and i expect to see similar dynamics with the traditional art world in terms of how things are evaluated on the other hand. Nf teas can be used for many other things this is. What makes it powerful. Anything that can be digitally owned can be supported with an nf t it has a lot of uses in media and entertainment real estate gaming identification or any kind of acid or collectible. It's a technology that slowly going mainstream for art. But it's not limited to that. Therefore i do not think it will be only a small number of creators making good money. It's going to be the base of many new business models of the future norm. Our next guest is sydney pierce a visual digital and performance artist whose work has appeared in major galleries in paris los angeles in new york. She's currently featuring her artwork on the creator marketplace foundation on that site. The price of tokens associated with individual works of art. Is something like you'd see on the stock market. The pricing is real time in dynamic and fluctuates according to demand which comes from buyers who might be investors collectors or fans. Sydney discusses why she went from working exclusively with galleries to trying out these crypto marketplaces. And how this move affects her work in her business she also talks about. How crypto could change the way she engaged with her fans and she offers advice for creators. Interested in getting into the world of crypto. But i she talks about how social media popularity several years ago opened her eyes to the idea of new monetization models for creators. I really had a big swing on tumbler. In you know the students in fourteen ninety two thousand seventeen when was kind of popped up and my pictures were just getting like hundreds of thousands of re blogs and i just kept Really returning to this idea. Why is there no valuation or round this energy and maybe how could there be. How can we turn the likes in to money or something you know. How can i serve lip. The attention economy and ju- an actual monetization forum. And that was what really got me thinking. Big abou- yeah. I actually really can't understand. Why this blockchain technology tokenism artwork could potentially be a really major disruption to the art world way of doing things as well as married to my vision for this a more prosperous world for artists and for people that enjoy art. So how did you come to start working with foundation. I was put in touch with the curator lindsay. Howard we talked at length about kind of our vision for wanting to find some new ways of doing things and make it to. The artists have a little bit more stake in their work. I think partially because there's a curator that i really trust who has inviting me in as well as the fact that i could sense that. They had a anger on the pulse. All of that was what swayed me into wanting to work with. Which of your art is there now. Sort of us through what that looks like. And what's being presented at the moment. So i have done a specific run of three works which are from what i call the jangle. Euler lillies series. I offered to print editions of one hundred. And then one video at an edition of i wanted to create a run that serves as this kind of cool crypto training wheels or people who might be interested in this but are nervous to get their feet wet. Lucky what happens you know. And at the end of the day you can experiment with crypto. And it's been really exciting to to watch the trading aspect of it. You know when. They trade in their tokens and they have the exchange. It's just kind of been like a new frontier for me personally. And the interesting wrinkle is that people can come fans collectors and they can buy your artwork at the price at which listed and when you are ready to produce that artwork they will get a physical copy of it right or while. They're waiting for you to kind of complete. The artwork in fulfilled at they can also trade the token that is associated with that artwork. And so the price of that artwork is kind of going down in value or its dynamic. Right it can go up and down so that kind of close to the point of what you were saying about people being able to trade it. And that's really. What makes it interesting here. Because now you're talking about not this static price but rather a dynamic price that can lead more people to perhaps get involved with this from sort of purely trading or investment aspect on top of the kind of collectible or fan aspect of it right now not are going to like this and not. All artists are going to find this to be there. Jim davis is kind of an interesting way to involved. You know think about kind of our works like stock in a way. And i'm interest in watching the way that that's playing out in this fear because it's new and it needs to be kaya neared in order for it to become normalized. So from the buyer's perspective of from collectors perspective big await for the price to go higher and traded and make a profit on that and not end up owning your visitors correct. Yes exactly and i think that's also a cool way for people to support the artist. Yeah you might not necessarily end up with a print. Butyl decide to redeem your token. You're still supporting me. The artists in a little way just by engaging with training. And i think that's again a cool way to kind of get people into the world of crypto and supporting the arts and we should mention. You just touched on it. Is that every time. Anyone trades one. Of these tokens you receive a cut of that like the artist receives the kind of that mcelwee plus the fact that as the sale as additions decrease the more editions that are sold the price increases and that is also a really exciting aspect of this. And how do you think about pricing. How do you decide with the initial price will be and how many you know. How big the limited edition will be. Spent a lot of time thinking about this. I'm going to kind of keep my works that are dealt through galleries systems and the art market. I'm going to purposefully. Keep them low and you know rare they come with kind of a full package of framing and serious application with these works there. High quality digital c prints it's just larger editions and therefore the price kind of matches the fact that there isn't as much scarcity attached to them. But again i kind of. I'm finding there's a sweet spot for me wherein i'm still able to work with the fine art market but i'm also able to make it so that the work is accessible to more people. I think my work is valuable. I take very seriously. And i want it to be valued appropriately. And i want it to appreciate over time and i think the fine art market finesses that opportunity but i don't want to be completely forbidding to everyone else in the world because that goes against my general oaths of art being for the people so to me that my personal approach again not. Everyone's approach the visiting my way of making it so that we can kind of play both fields. I'm not giving up on the fine art market or the fine art world. But i'm also really interested in trying new things and in mining more people into that the opportunity to become a collector so when you go to the site in the artwork sort of their stock market right. There's a price and it shows like how much it's risen or fallen. I think i look this morning in all of yours. We're up over one hundred percent. Congratulations pretty good. How often do you look television. Look at that and put salt lake. It's just a whole different kind of insight into what a real time. Look at how people are responding to your work right absolutely and that's exciting. It feels very modern. And i'll be super honest and not like a finance guy island artist but i'm still a modern artists. And i really. I interested in modernity and future as well as looking at the way it works understanding in order to better think about it so when i get to kind of see in real time evaluation of the work. That's kind of thrilling because again. I'm so used to this kind of tumbler culture where you get to see your a numbers going up in. You're like watching likes and re blogs happen but there's nothing actually attached to it for me other than minor dopamine bursts so this is actually creating a little bit of capital to it to make it more fun at least rewarding so is an experiment where you might make a little bit of cash or is it a significant amount of cash. That's possible like how much of a revenue stream does this represent for you at the end of the day. I'm making money making my work. And that's exciting and there is profit. I'm making a profit from this and it's another avenue for revenue for me to make my art and get it out to the people to me. These are all wins while the prophets are not as gigantic. As if it was on. You know Fine art market immediately with us for one work you know. This is multiple work that over time. It is similar numbers. You know in fact sometimes more though. Maybe it doesn't make much sense for me. Only be having you know extremely high prices and there's only one period and then you have to wait for that appreciation valuation and then if it flips on a secondary mark out gets Often get to see that. Unless i've contractually negotiated it you think about digital art vs physical because i think in this case right now you're going to produce physical pieces that you can send people there's like a reproduction cost involved. There which presumably cuts profit whereas digital work is more easily produce but then also digital art historically has been hard because like how do you stop it from being copied but with crypto. There's this kind of additional the token where you know the providence. And you know it's like this unique piece of art that cannot really be owned in that same way. So how do you think about those things as part of business model. That's really great and important point question. And i think the people are in have been struggling with getting their head around the idea like paying for a video or paying for a guest and how can it have value if it's not tangible it's on a physical art work. And it's taken a lot of thinking in pioneering from a lot of artists and technologists into me like you said the provenance of blockchain technology which guarantees authenticity of the work is essential to make this possible whence we can kind of get the collective consciousness head around that i think it could be a really revolutionary for art continues. We made entreated than in collected. I wanna talk about fan engagement to because this opens a really interesting possibilities as well. It's happening now with your artwork. More people are engaging with your work in financial way but tokens also potentially enable other kinds of engagement as well people can become phone called super fans or have access to certain things in your life or in your work that like non token holders may not have so much about that kind of evolution. Fan engagement as it relates to crypto. And think that there's totally so much potential for this accessibility. The access points are what's going to be a really big part of that fan engagement generation. There's all kinds of different ways to approach this. I just wanna do it in a way that i think is actually cool. Honestly one of my big things about one in trying to design like. I wanted to work in a way that i would actually want to do it. Like i'm interested in figuring out how we can work with. Dan engagement in a way that i really would feel comfortable asking my envious to participate in when i kind of like flip the script and i think about an artist that i loved. What would i be interested in paying to gain more access to their work. And that really is kind of the decision of the artist to configure. What the different tiers of value are so. I'm interested in your perspective on what artists are kind of interested in this trying to break free of this. Rut this traditional kind of commercial system around art. Which should they know as they look to explore crypto. And how much do. They need to know about crypto before they started. I think it's always helpful to have someone. Hold your hand a little bit if you don't have a natural direct resource to introduce you to this pro yourself into some research and teach yourself about. I mean i've really had to do that for myself with this. I mean i fairly scratch the surface of fully understanding. All of this works because again. I'm an artist as early like my nine to five attention. They end to be reading about advanced changing technologies. Because i'm an artist who's interested in future models and methods. It's important for me to sit and focus on me. Lady is to get it into my head. So that's part of it. But another part of it i think is also kind of justice. Fearless is kind of entrepreneurial spirit of what i had to lose. If you're currently not making much money or any money wheeling and dealing your art what do you have to lose but to kind of throw yourself into something new and see if it sticks you know and i think that's a really important energy for people to hold. General is just kind of like. Let's go let's try something. Let's try something new and if enough people hosts that innovative spirit that's when things start to crackle and spark a change hossam signi will thanks so much for being with us. It's been a pleasure to talk to you absolutely. I had a great time. Thank you for this opportunity.

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11 Trivia Questions on What's the Theme?

Trivia With Budds

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11 Trivia Questions on What's the Theme?

"It's eleven trivia, questions on what's the theme, a round devised by my friend Brian sale year. Let's see if Ashley, and I can figure them out. This is trivia with butts. What it be what it be what it be what it be what it be Jubail Ryan buds. Thank you so much for checking out this show. This is called the trivia with buds podcast and it comes out every single day, so hit subscribe on your podcast app on your device, and they'll get those episodes, every single day, getting ready for an amazing summer day here. I'm wearing my blink win eighty two basketball jersey. I bought it hot topic on clearance for fifty percent off about fifteen years ago, and it is one of my favorite things to wear in the summer and to pair with it. I have a very similar colored jersey that a friend made for me that says, trivia with buds and the podcast logo on it. So I'm switching between these two jerseys in these hot summer days. If you want a tank, top with some trivial buds action on it. 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We'll be doing another Harry Potter ticketed, trivia, van at Otago pogo brewing in San Gabriel, California. Oh, go pogo is an awesome warehouse style brewery. That's very large seats a lot of people and they always have a great food, truck and a ton of awesome beers on tap. So if you like that kind of thing, I'd love to have you come out to that. That's Saturday August. Third seven to nine PM at Oga pogo brewing. Tickets will be available for that. Very soon to lots of announcements, lots of events. And man, a really busy summer. Today's episode is all from Brian sailor who wrote these great questions on what's the theme Ashley, and I try and figure out the theme. So you can kind of play along with us and see how many questions you can get right? We got more than half of them. Right. And we were able to figure out the theme. So maybe you can to stay tuned for our little chat and are fun episode coming up here in just a second. 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Guys, we are going to jump into this episode with my wife Ashley with questions from Brian sailor, your relatives California. This is what's the theme? Let's see if you can figure it out. Here we go. Sitting here in my very dirty bedroom with my wife cash casually. What's up ash? Don't tell them all rooms dirty. I did say my bedroom. I should've said, our bedroom. No. I'll let you say it's just yours. I sleep elsewhere. This is your pig. Usually sleep standing up holding a child somewhere in the south somewhere, which is wild but yeah, we need to clean his thing up where should we start throw it all out, burn it all and start over collectibles in here. We can't do that. It'll be RIC flair signatures on that hall of fame set up there. We can't burn that are bad. It's real sweet and romantic. Oh. And it's all still in boxes, which is very sexy, right next to our VHS collection of something called shogun, which I've never seen, or even looked up. But I thought it looked like it was worth money at a thrift store Nintendo. We box a autograph Justin Lin hat. I think his name is Justin Lin. I think he was the Lakers player. You don't know that. I don't know. I shouldn't have that hat. No. He shouldn't. Why do we have that? I got it as a gift for doing a show at the LA Lakers performance center. That's right. Way to work that into a nice little break. And I'll be the Lakers performance center every Tuesday from eight to ten. All right. Well, we're sitting here on a nice hot summer day. It's been one hundred and four degrees. Two days in a row and finally a cool down to about what ninety now it's supposed to be like eighty six. They think it's pretty good below ninety. We won a giant wagon that holds a whole fleet of children. It's as we're growing crew. Just kidding. That's not announcement. Until you have this way, again, we probably should have two more kids, apparently, but that is no way in announcement. I'm going to take it as a challenge. By the end of this week, you will be with two child to child. That's how that works out. Pretty sure you just announce it and it happens. So I did for the first two, you must've saw my banners around the house. But yes, we have this giant wagon. We won from wonderful wagon. So if you're looking for a wagon check them out, wonder fold wagon I imagine dot com. I didn't look that up. But it's amazing. Yeah. It's a really cool foldable wagon and it seats four kids driller, because you push pull it so. Yeah, it it's massive to really pushing like a shopping, cart at Costco. That happens to have a top on it along with, like support springs, shocks shots. That's the right guy break. It's got a Cup holder. I like it and the kids around today, and they had a good time in there. They brought some library books. It was a nice little summer reading wagon day. We should call that the reading wagon and I need some little push me around in it at some point. So since neither can read yet. Yeah. The reason. Who's reading kinda just hold the books up and look at the pictures. Right. I know. But then it's kind of like what you and I do a little. Reese, Witherspoon book the other day or dislike nice picture. And I just felt. Just falsely posted a nice screen out of that. Okay. So you and I are going to work together on a what's the theme round this way. Bryan, sailor. Yeah, we're gonna work together. Brian sale your lives in Redlands. And he's a friend in trivia player in a bingo player. And he comes up with some great stuff, and I think he enjoys doing this. So Brian keep these questions come in. We're going to try and figure out the theme to these ten random questions in the number. Eleven is what's the theme. So we'll work on these together. Are you confident we'll figure out a theme? No, no, okay. No. I never have it. He got. Does that explain the jeans you're wearing? Which I don't know. Who's mom, whose mom's mom, did you take those from their Costco? Jeans. Does that make it anybody? Oh, you put them in the giants explain how to things. Sure does. Bad. The great hearing, this is number one. You the comic this comic created by Jim Davis holds the Guinness record for syndication appearing in two thousand five hundred eighty newspapers at its peak. The only reason I know this because there's a question this week and it's a character created by Jim Davis. Garfield Garfield and I've read a lot of our very proud of myself for knowing that, but I only know it from work in trivia, that's nice working. Hi, fine. Yeah. That's pretty good. Did you ever read Garfield or comic strips grownup? Yeah. I can remember getting like the Sunday, newspaper and they'd be all in color. But you never brought the books or got him from like the book club at school and stuff now because the last day. Comic person. I was a novel person I guess it was a specific type of kid because me, yeah. Real nerdy. What Steve Nelson and our friend rob of these, but my other friends didn't usually they would get like one. They were more into like sportsman stuff. Right. Do you think that's the thing? Yes. Big kids. Kids things. But I wonder what that, like there's a wonder what? Number two moms will be happy to know that national, apple pie chocolate chip and strawberries and cream day as well as national clean, your room day, all occur during what month. Number two moms will be happy to know the national apple pie day chocolate chip and strawberries and cream day as well as national cleaner room, day, all occur during what month to even the idea apple pie day. It's got to be the summer, right? I guess, like June. I dunno. I first month the summer, I, I have no idea. All right. We'll see what happens there. Number three. The original nightmare on elm street and scream or both directed by this horror legend, Wes craven. Ooh, another one that you I didn't know that. I know you knew that, but I'm proud of myself very good. Number three, the original nightmare on elm street and scream directed by west craven. We feel good about that number four this family show debuted on MTV on March fifth two thousand two, I don't know what that means families in quotations. It's like this is somebody like the something family. This family show debuted on MTV March. Fifth two thousand two. It also could be something like HOGAN knows best which was a reality show. But I think that was VH1. and I don't think it was two thousand two I have no idea. What's the show used to work on jackass? You think I used to work on jackass not jackass, but you worked on ridicule snus isn't it hasn't been on forever? Not since two thousand two was seventeen years ago, and they unlike season twenty yeah. Maybe like three seasons of year. What about jackass jackass was a family, jackass was two thousand nine because I asked a question about it recently. And it's not a family. You're just saying no wasn't it like his uncle was on it with him gera-, and you're gonna evil a bam. I don't know. I didn't watch MTV Viva. La bam might be oh, two was out to that can't be a clue though, Viva. La bam. What would that be? Is it the name of the show? Viva. La bam. I have no idea. We gotta keep that one blank number five, what nineteen hundred five movie starring Eric Stoltz is rocky, Dennis and also featured share Sam Elliott and Laura Dern. I know you don't know that one but it's called mask. It's where the kid has the face. Yeah. I had no clue but shares his mom and same Elliott's the dead state Elliot from like roadhouse. Yeah. So that's called mask bacilus and Knowles. An LES and always, and skinks or what type of animal, I only know that from Harry Potter that would be snakes because the bass Lisk is what speed nine genie is or no. Yeah. That's what they speak. Maybe you're right. I asked the question about it the Harry Potter thing. I don't know. I'm sure it's Nate you before number seven, the instrument usually associated with the military is similar to a trumpet, but without keys valves. What is that? Be. It's just a horn. Isn't it like a brass horn? No, it's not called a brass horn. Why not a cornet would it be a cornet? I have no clue I tested to play the cornet. You did not. And my mom said. Go back to comics. Here's Garfield instead. Basic- basically, she for real said, cornet. She goes how much is it? And it was like four easy payments of two hundred and fifty dollars thousand bucks. She goes, you could play the kazoo and she ripped the thing up and just threw it away. You can play the kazoo. That's like something she would say, yes, absolutely. Oh, yeah. So I play the cornet or the kazoo. Unveil garfield. What is that now I'm thinking of bayonet? That's not an instrument. Yeah. No. That's a weapon. There's another word like that, for a horn digital it deleted that, whatever that thing's called what is it? I'm going with brass horn. I have no idea is not a cold. There's nothing called a brass horn. Not the stupid, that's just like how somebody describes an instrument that doesn't know him the brass area. All right. We'll keep it out. One blank input coronet. I if you tested to play it shouldn't, you know what that was the only time I've ever seen one in my life. One day of my life. I'm like, maybe I'll be musician didn't work out. It's number eight. If you go to a sushi restaurant, and your to taco TA K O, you'll receive this food poisoning. Burn on somebody hates, seafood, taco. What is that, like, no idea? We'd maybe have I have guy guess. Okay, number nine when completed in nineteen twenty seven this American roadway was the longest continuous underwater vehicular tunnel in the world. Do you know a lot of underwater tunnels through zero? I was I, I was like route sixty six to something like in New York would be making tunnel. No idea so far number ten what Farley brothers movie features. Woody Harrelson and Bill Murray is bitter rivals. And Randy Quaid is Harrelson's protegee, that's kingpin the bowling movie. The theme. Okay. Let's see. So we got Garfield kingpin rest crate, west craven mass. Let's circle the ones we definitely we definitely know, Wes craven Garfield, snakes, you knew mask mask and kingpin. And he guesses here, new Wes craven mask, snakes movie, pin, kingpin, maybe Spiderman, or daredevil. That's why because he's the the kingpins the villain. Snakes would be a snake villain. I don't know. Garfield could be Andrew Garfield who played spider man in one of the movies. So then what about Wes craven? What's craven? He didn't direct Teigen. He didn't directly. There's craven the hunter, maybe mask. Is maybe like he just wears them like Spiderman was a man, right? Clearly. Wait a minute. That's the word I was thinking of if it Spiderman, the daily bugle is where he works in eagle stupid horn. So it's gotta be Spiderman. So we definitely got bugle does that help us with taco or the, the roadway thing? Get the Mon spider eggs, you get Knicks, maybe something the month be, what would that help, Mary, Jane June, Mary, June? No, July April May June, July, August September, October homecoming, when his homecoming be, maybe it's just like when these movies come out is really, well, no. Oh, and what family show debuted March shifts who doesn't two on MTV? Is there? Is there a show called homecoming or something home? No, it's called the second one is far from home. Divers one homecoming new one. Oh, what's the new one called far from home? Well, okay. We don't know but we have the answers listed here. So we definitely got a few one two, three four five, six seven eight Spiderman. So we got eight out of twelve if we're right on the ones we got, let's see with those answers in just a second. We are back with the answers to what's the theme from Brian sale. Your thank you, Brian. If you want to Email Brian, maybe you have some questions that you want to ask him where you want to collaborate with him, his emails, be sale. You're thirty three g mail dot com. Now, I don't know if he wants me to give that up, but. I imagine. Since it's on this piece of paper in front of me that he sent to you and confident he sent him. You should send him an Email and jump in on this trivia. To Ryan at Ryan buds at gmaiLcom you could also Email me anytime. Yes. Sometimes you and Email each other. I E mail, you the answers when you're hosting trivia every week. Correct. That doesn't count as like, you know, correspondence between us. So, you know, it's fun though. We've been talking on the phone more lately, like when we're on like you're driving home from something on driving home from something. And you don't have anything else to do. You'll give me a call. And then it's like we're dating or something. It's kind of cute. Yeah, I dig it, here's number one for what's the theme? The comic created by Jim Davis holds the Guinness record for syndication appearing in two thousand five hundred eighty newspapers and it speak. The answer was Garfield. We've got that one and it says Andrew Garfield played Spiderman type think we're onto something. Number two moms will be happy to know that national apple pie. Chocolate chip and strawberries and cream day as well as national clean your room day. The clue as moms moms will be happy to know from mother's day. It's may, oh an aunt may is the, the grandma's nay or the answer. The grandma of the aunt's name is aunt may and we did not get that one. But did not clue because he says moms would be happy to know mother's day, right? May number three. The original nightmare street and scream or directed by this horror legend, that was west craven says craven, the hunter was an enemy. See that, that one number four, the family show debuted on MTV March shift, two dozen to the osbournes Norman, Harry Osborn are. And James Franco and Willem Dafoe we didn't get that one. But that was a good question. Why is it family in quotes because it's a family, the osbournes, our family got number five what nineteen eighty-five movie star, Eric Stoltz is rocky Dennis and feature chair? Sam Elliott, Laura Dern mask and Spiderman wears a mask. So we got that number six bacilus and no lease and skinks are all screen names of mine. And he said lizard, oh you were wrong is wrong on that one. So wives. Why is talking like a snake bacilus not? Maybe we're saying the wrong work. So maybe it's not a snake. Maybe it's just straight up reptile talk. Maybe you're right. Okay. So reptile. We didn't get that one lizard, and that would make more sense. The duck Connors becomes the lizard number seven. This instrument usually associated with the military is similar to a Trump without keys, avails bugle. And he worked at the daily bugle John number eight. If you go to a sushi restaurant in order taco, you. Receive octopus. Doctor octopus. In that we would definitely got the Spiderman quicker, number nine when he completed in nineteen twenty seven win completed in nineteen twenty seven this American roadway was longest continuous underwater vehicular tunnel in the world, the Holland tunnel and Tom Holland plays spider man now. So we didn't get that one. But that's good number ten. Farley brothers movie. Woody Harrelson Bill Murray, bitter rivals. Randy Quaid as Harrelson's protege kingpin mob. Boss enemy on the show or the movies Spiderman, so we got two three four five six seven eight. We got eight points right? Eight point seven questions out of eleven and we missed Holland tunnel. Doctor octopus the lizard the osbournes in may. So we missed. No. How did we get? Let's see one two three four five six. You do this every night, sometimes multiple times a day. An yes still can't add up your tree seven eight that's still eight points. Confusion. We did pretty good. Thank you, Brian, for those great questions. Ashley anything you want to plug before you take off by take off. I mean move out. Yeah. Handle this mess on your own boy. How clean up messes throwing away everything away, kick him onto the bed. Kick it under the bed throw it away. Put so much stuff are there, every time I go to lay down at night. I lay on our daughter got higher fully. Like she just comes in, and she just kind of sprinkles it like my future. Ashes, my bad just a handful of Legos and bracelets and rings. And then I lay down and one just jabs my spine. Yep. That's that the other night laid down her bed. Got a nice book corner to the head. Real cozy good. Although it's better than her scary dolls when she hide those. Oh, yeah, and then the next day, she'll be like, dad, did you see what I hid under your pillow and I'm like, yeah, the murderer style, the end named after I saw. Well, that's our life ash. Thanks to be on the show. Of course, meteor. 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Stacebob & The Dweebs - A Garfield Christmas Special

Stacey's Pop Culture Parlour

51:46 min | 8 months ago

Stacebob & The Dweebs - A Garfield Christmas Special

"Join a podcast. It's just me a new deal in a podcast. We're gonna talk about the garfield chance the to a talking garfield on par just to To sorry what did you think of the quiz. Oprah's field christmas. Look i have a choice. White breads piece shit you white. Kill mill toes human piece. let me do any trump. We'll start this thing. Dhahran got off coming in my house. Include a toys greet everest. Hello just say those light bulbs ringling ding dong ding dong to it's craigslist. It's definitely christmas. Don't consume com cops and on destroying Christmas impending christmas. Break very cups cups comes. They'll be confessed swathe of listeners. Aside as though we've got more than about eight listeners. they'll be fearlessness. Open the fuck is a kkob. And i'm not gonna explaining not gonna ram going to explain these this podcast. This is stay. Obama waves only stays the titular size. Bob and unfortunately we've only got one deep today because the savell makudi soit so Show by fill like death this time soon as we. This is about the third time that we've tried to record. Well you were on your house. Then it was made rich and now it still rates. Yeah that one day when you look a headache where as long as you stay perfectly still leroy within the instant of you wanna do a seeker fold hand. That was may not richest before anybody potentially comics. Which is okay buddy. Had to have like a wig procedure thing on these tump last week to a thing for a alessi's don't know just small and not a human hope he's okay sorta on sundell the medical business but it's not like it's in all went swimming lay but it's just affected every sleeping. Bicycling law in some positions Is very very toilet tires. It would not surprise was asleep on the city. Roya and let the sleeper of his time. It'll be grumpy. Said we don't think either got the energy to be group. The muslim would just feel really sorry for ourselves. All just want to just want to. That's why i'm so excited about having a bit of a break from work christmas. Because i'm going to be a minute. Very often blankets a knock my day weeks or your four-day so screw you gotta say normally normally. I don't get the full christmasy times off the this year practically meltdown on the boston. Please i did. And then i'll work seventeen. I was over overtime in the spicy awaken to days. So she was like do Kremlin in those extra time off as well. And i was like yes fucking plays a world do that. Thank you thank you sarah. And so that's my ding. Dang di which is one of more like ringtone tingled long day. 'cause it's exciting chris or get an early christmas present tomorrow. What's that is. I don't know was going to be a rainy shit president if i knew what it was the only stays. I mean. it's a bit shit. I'm getting it now. Apparently from what. I gather something. That's all could as crap to route so i don't know why i don't know why i'm censor myself oakwood a shit to route so i dunno. I'm assuming it's quite large and large means good. Yes i think so yes good. Christmas uproarious sucks lloyd. Christmas christmas jumper me too. It's one it says. Happy human holiday on a gremlin and it says the gremlins komen covert in lawyers. And yesterday i was wearing my mom. Where batman's knocking the shout joker and it says that the holes but then it's got hold crossed out the joker ask for the day. Oh well in the spirit of christmas and in a spirit of rich being here but not really been here. He's choice for watch cartoon and then what he did was. He forced us to watch. And then folk dolphin didn't do himself the game so don't was subjected to a golf field. Christmas special a that makes it sound like it was really bad. It's just it's kind of like nothing happened for about twenty minutes tops. Nothing like rich rich pretty for me just name. 'cause let i'm gonna i'm gonna watch it and the man don't recall it'll be great. And then he went to the toilet and they came back. Diabate fifteen minutes. I was lake. Let me study cnn. Also it's this whole dialysis long console. The king subject us to this not. Watch it might. It'd be pretty stupid long. Conches nubas bertha's well while speculation isn't quite on the money. But i mean that roy i dunno. It's this was really odds. It's very jim davis. Because i don't mean jim davidson. Obviously it's not like wildly racist and you know incredibly right wing. It's just a bit boring. And the older i get the more i realized actually golf. Fields obits shade off was always been shaved seat. Roy so this is the thing you say. I've never watched garfield in my life. I've never seen a retina golfer. The most experienced of of garfield is that phone website. That somebody might that one time where it was like a failed but garfield where it's just Panels johm talking to himself and look insides. Sulfur funny about resolve. Interact with the cats account. Pretend this jerusalem with mental. Yes about my. That's my entire experience of failed. So like i had no concept of like what to expect from this. I don't that you're you're familiar with the concept of garfield fat cat. likes lasagna. Hates mondays all that bullshit right. Yeah but like. I think it was expected. Teen beat more sass. Royal think of just got in my head that garfield can all sas cat. And what else i mean like assault cast cost. How will not like a. Yeah he is. He was quite surprisingly subdued. He didn't he didn't kick audi ones now. So that was weighed. More folks quite. I've got to very really just gonna completely goldman carry. Aknowledging marguerite statement foot's cold and i don't know why and he got para sleepy sleep on got socks on the bed on. You're probably slip is on some sippy slips. Come on style of the way to ice. Some of which have come from from his own surprising justice chain kids'll orange always ready bumpers boy. The stall vase which just goes to show. Hey fucking title him. Because the stall of the christmas special. Look john walks in justice l. Which will be laughed. Because i was like he thinks solely elevate myself that he doesn't think he could be time. He stressed himself As a as an alfie instead of the center and then he lied damn breakfast. Lasagna's to intel always entice golfie too the tray so that you could open these gift which was like a sort of magic wishing sam tell and john wished himself like fucking robin hood style hat with a federally. I almost like mogo jones such a loser and realized just after the credits that was actually a dream that garfield was having getting all listed wanted for christmas. And i was like way. This cat has got real. She opinion of is here. I mean i think all cats have to be fair having who have into in this house and one who's Who's now comprised of Colvin molecules in a box He I don't think any of them have got high opinion because every time that they try and walk across my laptop. When i'm doing work. And i look at them and go. Oh no carry on anyway. They don't give a shit okay. I mean this cats. I don't blame you really trust these one. They're always ruining overthrows jordan. The nellie as well as some kind of recreational area paul koro roses fucking the thing that like. There are many reasons. I don't like lots of animals because of a massive 'fraidy cat for star but once i was a friend's house and i was just sitting watching the tv trying to my friend and like for the whole of the previously to obtain. They're his cats had pied me any fucking attention stores like roy. These cats don't want to be missed with it's fine. I'm not going to be local. Kapiti to kitschy Clearly don't want it is falling. We'll all of us. Some one of them decided he really wanted attention. And the way that he got it was two colon will phone the shelving unit that was behind me and just on the back of my head with no full long shape muscle of never been more scared in my life and of course he scratched. The back of. My head is welcome. Caster seemed to have any concept of clothes. And now they do but they're in their head just need to latch onto something. I just can't let fuck it. We'll do our cats though because they eat spiders. Well that's one of the many reasons why contemplated getting a cap. Even though i don't really trust them because like at least that get spider problem but then a friend of mine told me the one savannah cat proudly took to the ones and then through a spider onto a lap of never done that they always digest. One of them has brought Morrison before the got into the bath and that was a nightmare. Because i took that took quite some time to get out of the house also left his presence because it's narrowed. It's a president of dead birds. Awesome okay not that thought for went on to get sharon tate been bugged. Yeah now. I can't deal with animals. They're just too much effort. There'll beaten some absolutely beefy. Spoiled is the little one plays with. The big three are usually crippling. And then then the cats will finish them off while we're talking about. It is a height. Because i'm quite happy with the knowledge that my cats. That's fine of no problem with that stays that'd be. That's the only time. I'm happy to think about spoilers. Even watching the mandalorian episode was horrendous. I know exactly which one year old man what the fuck roy all. I was very lucky with assaulted which happened to watch before me whilst he was at dialysis so he sent me name. It's like hello. You might not watch this. And i think challenge will are think they would just enough like to just alien enough that it didn't bother me now. I couldn't tell us our normal spot is bothering me more. I don't like especially join version government with the always the lynn now anyway. Let's talk about something else is still goldfield. I had a crisis of my own brain toys during this episode because twice garfield says druk as the past tensor. Anouilh don't is that a thing have been signed dragged on fucking chump maho roy. It didn't sound right to me either. It didn't because at first he was talking to Every year we get of his bed in taken over to wherever for christmas and the other time was when he was being like a real gripe pants and suggesting that the person who invented christmas trees to be drug into the straight shop shows away. Chile is his another one four. And you know the graham was she when she said about What was it fire cat but would earn in castle was is that type of care or she implying that they used to use cats as firewall both doubt no but the only definitely was. That's a weird thing decides. She'll look it up shallow safest they Look the horrible. Peaches cats on foyers. Would i mean. I don't think cance surely that can't be scandal because i haven't got my laptop and my phones on charge roster who skype didn't plan ahead well in my defense. I've done six days on the bounce and i'm quite tallied bishen monitor. Those six days was last thursday. Which was when i. I'll be honest. i didn't think it was gonna make it through the day. I felt like i was going to pass out at one point and one of the managers at work when he rang. Me was like yeah. You sound like shit like actually so you will not finding anything useful. But there's a whole like fucking forum. Whether i've asked the question of that specific complain in that specific cartoon really gonna answer well paper a it might be one of those things that like an old idea that hasn't translated But nobody seems to know where it's confirmed that's incredibly helpful the of information on the internet and they don't have an answer. Somebody suggested and i actually find that this really funny because the look it doesn't make any fucking sense is that somebody suggested that. Maybe she's just can mental because she's old and she meant wood burning stove but he just right. It doesn't make any sense in the context of any here. That was happening. She i did so now. I mean she is back to you without a doubt. You looked grandma. Gave him though she was a even though she was like hell away a debate christmas and monica bay also every day she was also like mr we the that pm my but then she'll say really you know sort of pulled the whole thing down to quote immortal in level of our walk luther. It's the way the cartoon and it's true that is true. We've got ahead of ourselves a bit. Did you know that. Johnny depp brother is nine. Doc boy doc boy or dog boy because yeah said one thing but the mount set another man which looked to the because rich came down says a point. When i got off a chris. Morning doc boys wearing a rapid onesie for some reason his his younger brother who's been building since childbirth. Yeah yeah all. We have a problem of realized And i think it's i think i only noticed it because this was automation off. I've i've appropriate with the way that the nose is a drone on the humans in caufield stuff. Because we're really never lok the when you see them from the sullied point fine because it's just like a little bubble nose and then look diagnosed line down to the where baba blah which looks fine but when you say from the front by do the bubble knows that than the loin goes straight down from beneath the bubble nose to the top of the medicine. It looks like animals knows automating. And it won't whole thomas heidi a high-tech and then ran off. Those getting reading hung up on lake. Whatever little bit. What is that be called between knows makes scott night to know what it is remember some of like with i think it was a comical. Something where some demon was claiming. It was that came from when he put his finger to the lips of babies across the world and told them sh so they couldn't share his terrible secret. But i don't think that's true because it wasn't really because he's comic. And that's not realize i'm not gonna that account be oss to get the phone again in All book co workers wade fame. Oh god yeah. I see what you mean never even now and every every human person has every tom missing from the front. Is that way it was going to say. I wonder thoughts intentional. But i doubt it looks a little bit like a cat as well now with that. Now see it from the front not from the side but like you say from the front with unless it's supposed to be locked you know pets is supposed to resemble our owners. Maybe on my base just supply couldn't figure out how to do it and i just did. It weighed a dumb one of my favorite bits of this episode was in the car when john was singing. Available the great stuff about christmas and light garfield was turning all into a negative and one of them failed one of the things that john lewis. I was like oh you got love wrapping the presents. Put them under the tree in ryan college in that and and garfield like fucking work. My what do you think happens in offices that you think we're racking presents moines causal diet. Because i can tell you okay for the last. Two weeks been mapping lot presents for work. That's the point win your average office worker. He's absolutely right on the money at stole. I've been doing. God's look in figures into g dogs all day. Long four hundred. Seventy patient gives blasted. It's been a nightmare because of the were not good chips of discover the line the fucking queen of rapid anything that square or rectangular but Give me even slightly onto no bleeding. Shake and i'm call it terrible boy. This is i here. It is now your bank in a box and then european. i'll be honest arc. I'll struggle to wrap still this in a nice needs. You know square esque cube like so fashion or whatever rectangular sock random. I've told amy more than few tom does. She won't sit down roy. I'll put blindfold on her around road for kim presents. The average has a similar strategy to win. Eight hundred may birthday prisons that he just rolled up in a carrier by console type shoot. I'm cook all a baking foil. Watch like and if he ripped she just put a bit more honest point she right now is hold johansen. You fucking always say. I don't trust that. Because when i was a kid do that. And then grand under put in our ably. Miami's like onto know hoffy. Napa lewisham thing all at one time when he was like how you say your eyes and then he drops the talk of you know this little. Bits off the top of the tomato and he went. Hi it's a spotty shower because fully generally across events like crying web. It's not where my mind. When i'm not gonna make the joke so i'll continue because that's going to ruin a very sweet horrendous childhood memory where you're scholars you jones. Mom she's adorable. Listen shape blitzer. Yes yes we lesser to know what this sold was thinking about this. You know what you were saying. We're getting ahead of ourselves. I don't think it really matters because all it is is they wake at the beginning of the pro of this car. Cartoon go to his parents house. Spend the night on wrapped presence and then i disagree with i decorate the trae on christmas eve and i can't help but think that christmas eve is the absolute stupide style of decided to put you for control for aweso. Like what would you do. The seems like they do in the evening as well like after dinner. And everybody's full out. Say some more acceptable time doing it before december which we had to do this year. But i didn't appreciate it. And i didn't wanna do it in december so there we go and i don't agree with it. The ant we die in november this shape but mostly because all it was just like you know what twenty twenty six decorations met me halfway and in the fucking trail. I'm sure glenn left something to say when he is me saying that i agree with people putting up decorations in november. The i think he's at his troops in january. I'm not sure is trying to came down. I know somebody who has a tree that i just decorate differently for each season as it were so. They've got like christmas decorations and like halloween decorations. like to know lentils fucking our demand. Yes yes exactly. We isn't anywhere to me shortly after they grandma a Believe you've you've just. We started this bit like it wasn't the most important fact that we've ever had that. The grandma was a green county gravy. Trumpian mike oh yeah using chili which actually sounds quite. Now he started. Chile's army was intrigued by american gravy. Because it's the definite every Showed of saying what i might grab a. It doesn't look like gravy. We are which makes me think it probably ties really different. I'm very intrigued. By american guy t putting in the mall wave so you can't necessarily trust everything that the youngster. Cotton socks kinloss unbelievable. I not like a taste no blowing. All you know all african reliable teabag and saloon. She sugar in some shape. Milk art k tesa tae but will not have like reheated or more crave top beverages is just no. It's just doing it wrong. Just stop it. Stop it sold him saying. Guess what speaking hot drinks grew online. Some lilies mold salida that. I'm going to put molly slow more alc- boy did i save. John's the m six and fought loud. Dan is not a lot of room. Believe lorries going along delivering. Chris must wishes and she probably shit boy. Racer anyway. You were telling me about one of your presence. It's a prisoner to present to myself on four. Be slow gifts so gifts the best gift to yourself blue and i will share it with a paperless on not tell dick it off and always big box. Big box of mold side. I'm gonna put him a slow cooker. And i'm gonna enjoy. She takes off. It's going to be so good. I don't know his. I'm keen on the concept of things that mold troy baldwin wine once thought it you shake the problem with mold. Moines is wine. i think. 'cause a golden doodle appreciate the concept of the mulling. It's too wide that the problem mistake because most mold moins have red wine vice and i am not a base vinaigre for me. So you're really really mold a win for me to even if it's a red in you have to put like a shitload of cinnamon cloves and oranges and cheating there before. All even touch it but malloy can real good god. I am seriously what's wrong with me. Today we'll sing song to sing a whole song all of a sudden on no not too good a car. Jim really are like short. Bursts of singing stays and mostly been like just matching really is just just singing. Rude things to the tune of songs and an and just about managed to it together. With roy and i think of any examples. Because i'm like. I have it off the top of my head. I can't legally and white the next one many. We probably now the burst of crazy. I'm doing the night of christmas cards. See now game over sticker for them down here. I'm gonna go enough. Some ice cream seems good to be fair. I was thinking the diaper which i want to get a free necklace. Along a levine. Each joins near the link in found. I'm not a fan. I don't like chocolate or at sorry. I love chocolate and orange or mint in chocolate. Can weird file be known before now like that. Some kind of revelation that i'm a bit weird for can accept this new revelation. I've been looking all mccord's military and law of marijuana. If it was acceptable socially the recalled him we glenn and he was talking about christmas. I kept saying things like you like this. Not now call Pause fucking she fucking games on. What's wrong what's wrong with you. Which was wrong with me. I said it doesn't make any sense. He's not even sweet. It looks like you should be sweet. It's not mince pies. So i have had them in the past. I don't enjoy them. Had to eat while once it worked because a customer all wrong gary down out but one of the customer wants and i saw that with male that later and As they lived on a farm in the middle of nowhere so when i was a bit further down the road and out the way i just i bid out the fucking window and i felt really bad but i'm not going to eat this now. I i'm not a big fan of fruit in stuff and y like adult. Look at christmas put onto fruitcake. If carrot cake how sultanas any it can get the fuck itemize but not even any business. Walker's was either. That's all that's why do out if of topic but not really since christmas. I love oliver. Your walk a low of a big sexy chocolate re Lock miss that. They don't tend to do. And what i'll tell you what not. I've only seen once this year and it wasn't even at christmas. Time for frosty fancies are love. Mr kipling frosty fancies find him in our tesco's osha and also. I've not seen him in ages. They they used to do like these flake cakes. But they've got this of. They're more of a christmas. He of one way or they've got this distinctive. Why is sit on top and inside. It's more of a vanilla ice cream inside the beautiful. I'm not saying i'm in years. I swear. I think i ate them until they newly come out is used to have christmas time beautiful now hungary and beans on toast for dinner because could be asked to contain the hat. I only ask this because of the gothic christmas special. A banana cream pie. Don't be no. I wasn't going to be rude. No haven't and i was also quite put off by the that she was alfred. Paulie the desert not an actual part because obviously when only paula. i'm thinking steak and kidney steak-n-ale and ale chicken and mushroom something like that. You know papa. And yet she's offering dessert. Dessert remained anwar vienna. She's feeling papa cherry pie all these different ones. Now wait until you finished. Yeah tease tease weird. Only don't understand the american. An american obsession with poise especially events. Free police Paul is 'cause like so saw lockdown. Mom sent me point post which is host postal paulie. She sent of my steve chicken mushroom with a massive cherry point afterwards. I think she forgot delegating for things. But i the pace. Cherry picked the Bicycle cherry syrup. Terry soup Across steer is actually pretty good. But like the whole time. I was thinking or could have just happily under the chicken and mushroom The older i get the more. I'd rather savory oliver saver. i think. I've always been a doodle sweet things and all like you would never turn anybody if i were offering remained in. Lucca terry shock oranges. Bull if you gave me the choice if you said to me on going to the shop and can of got enough money to eat a big bag of doritos or Give the academic as you sexy busted but moins while the took flaming hot cheetos them twist the ones that are i don't think the texture of a cheetah it's the same problem that not like. Oh yeah no got them. Cheetos that almost like twigs song so much. See the again. The older i get. I'm you may have had. Because it's nearly birthday. She got this. she's got a friend ran. And then had this cookie cake thing and i know that the literally the calm the people that make them are amazing. She's out before for my birthday and she done know if you saw on facebook. She got one for our anniversary which had enjoyed blue in. You'll do we. You know we knew there was a reason that's took around with because she cokie. I don't really give a shit what it said on it the big giant cookie and the delicious book. She gave me a slowest yesterday. Whilst i was working me say got a slice of that. And i was looking out and i saw a really want it but my teeth are going to finish the old. I'll get some like that or what. It was sentenced to die onto priced. Oh bless you the montclair my throat too much. But i'll let you off. i can. Coffee taught badly breeze. And i was like definite new. Yeah the the time when you remember to mute you mike to have a call that not to me you might have the world slave district of brahma bartlett score shirt with me today. Now admiral modern k. Dornam really regret nate nate because long too affectionate equal o'clock mail which is when you may like it's Will think that's why. I keep coughing. Because i'm just trying to play on god's give me a second wears it there. That's better talk. I'll just had the loudest throat cla- yeah but again no but you don't wanna hear anonymous anybody else so there's not much left. If they scuffled thing sign. I add that john is phased percent me in the he gets up. Call four in the morning. And he's like hello is at christmas presents time. Yeah and your man goes to bed. You fucking balance. Is this thing this is the thing. There's nothing offensive about this is not even really massively. Take the piss out off. Because it's not bad it's just kind of this. Nothing with garfield strip comes alive. There was a big though. I did want to ask you about. Because i don't know if i'm literally blinked to miss the point of the story where the data sits down and tells the story of pinky declare on roy select four or five seconds a messy and then must see i will get a bit holds wall. Don't think i'm gonna have an answer to this question. Oh well what even is. The question is the question. What is the cloud. What was the point in. That story was was the question they were going through as many american christmas cliches like standing around a piano seeing him getting the dinner out opening presents. And i mean don't again. This is something we've never done this enough i'm leonard. Can't i've ever really taken a survey to see what other people do at christmas. Because i really don't to sound harsh. I don't give a shit because that's their thing. I mean i think is what we do. Our family there things thing. I'm not going to judge what they do. But i also don't care as long as not sacrificing go. I've got a real low bar for for worried about the same time. We are not going to start doing it just because someone else does it. But i always remember from the Chris national lampoon's christmas vacation because there's a towards the end where he's asking his dad if he's going to read the night before christmas so i don't know if that some kind of american tradition is reading the christmas story on christmas eve to like. I'll tell you what we do. And this is going to make us look a rate see host but One of my relatives left me an organ. I wanna say an organ. I doubt mean look can wacky. Great in Joke with affairs. Pope's alive are just made. It was a two hour so it wasn't a kidney. No that would have come in handy. Rob reiner ano- wanted to make that joke opie good good. I'm not going to make some friends. Just want us to make fun of fucking podcast with smile night. Sleep in upstairs kick totally bear of a man because he's not here. I'll do the same if it was me to be fair. Knee word is stupid. There was one year when so this was this organ and it was one of those ones. It was a two-tier keyboard innocent essentially and that's a one year on an was like sisolak. You play some christmas carols. A little thing. I saw it will be like the movies so saw trying to play. And it's the most awkward thing we've ever done in our lives because of course like fucking raced on Paper tonight halfway through lyric good. The it was singing badly. Because guess what we're not have full fucking zingers like it was just Course we should we just coming up soon after. I looking oma gorge gone. Eggnog what what is it. Even scream. It's types of noise mass. It's to me the equivalent of just drinking snot. It's it's it's so easy egg. And i think it's cream and i think if you wanna booze fiscal advocate which is also yet more cream. Let let me find an eggnog recipe. And i'll tell you exactly but it is annoyed. Myth sounds ideologue is going to be a bit snotty depending on how you make it. Historically known as milk punch or egg milk punch is traditionally made with milk cream. Suga whipped egg whites and egg yolks and alternatively To add booze. You can advocate and most people tend to add cinnamon on top of its trade autumn. What creamy alcoholic beverages that now while Dare for russian but muster Doesn't like any sort of is any sort of beverage with creamy. It's just do that to self to stop it The only while. I can get away with it from having an orange Is something where it's more of the coffee base than it is the milk. If that makes sense only wouldn't drink thought too. Many white russians ate too much lasagna. And then painted a friend's bathroom that had foul cologne. It was horrendous. And i felt horrible nearly the toilet because i went downstairs and took I didn't get to the total inside all and it went everywhere and paul and then the next time i came around because they use so much kitschy mode cleaning out because i was still really pissed. Didn't know what was nearly blocked. The toilet was clean. An open flushing. It comes to like what's going on on this. I cleaned the toilet. May apparently they let shitload candles. And i hadn't cleaned everything all. Because i was very drunk. Gone into shower while all this selling And yet the weirdest thing is of consumed far more alcohol in illinois at your gaffe have never been sick yours. Dairy scott no no no no. It wasn't it was the because i one play and then went back for seconds outlook of never been properly. Full-on seekonk christmas. But that was one christmas evening. Wear and always wholehearted diploma. Non for this cochet's fucking. What's the word for a person who deny blah as the australian themselves and she saw christmas die roy and he's always used to be the signing the first holiday household christmas i get up priority. Mail presents presents precedence subduing dwindling days ago represents watch everybody else open their presents and then not roy full english breakfast so we're talking bike and we're talking sausage eggs toast. Freud brady as well as toast because why not hashbrowns. Oh chips so something baynes tomorrow as like it was fucking huge insanely huge and then give the no twenty minutes or so after finished not on brighton Took him into a selection box. Some slakes sweets of christmas sequoia slam and then like customers that it's like always christmas dana. Tolan guess well not made for an extravaganza the title toast. Also depending on i fail and then the full christmas dinner with like every vegetable. You could ever imagine farmer. Wealth fund seem okay. Sausage may stiffen like the works and then after that is deserved and then after that is after. It's coffee or if your child time it's after rights and lemonade look a grownup nightie. Person and then it's like you know give it like Because by that point. It spoken for proxies tightness She's putting on a massive sprint of finger food buffet since like sausage rolls cheeky bates sandwiches crisps salad. Like and of course because there is food. I'm going to keep it in. There was one year where i think i had like a third to the before i and then i'll spend the rest of the evening in the bathroom. 'cause i was just like all five with donate. Donate my see. We never had a full breakfast because we may mom insist. We have breakfast before we open presents just smash down a bowl of cereal belt. But don't ask now you got. Brush your teeth nagel. I wish our why can't we just opened brunson jarvis. Don't do that in this house. I'll tell you now see like as of older and as i've got more and more of an insomniac are don't get stupid On christmas day animal but like even content was abate. Lloyd twenty twenty two Awake at six Acceptable skill do some prisons easy and maho family beloit at one point. My family had a role that i was delighted to before i because it was fucking annoying and also man well taxi drivers so they definitely wherever they will get your ass spots about it and they get. They wouldn't be inside. Walk one in the afternoon to get open so stupid that but they was very motif. We crept in at like six o'clock in the morning. No no get by. You can go back to bed. You go downstairs and watch tally. But you not touching anything. Which was a nightmare. So you better off just going back to bed because the temptation is end this is going to sign is no one could sit in a room full of prisons tearing the our member one year. I'll go smacktalk laughs at this now. These layers tom. She was focused livid. So i opened up my selection box from the top and resealed it. And how did he know the chocolates out of no been calendar. Sorry selection box. Which is because you supposed to wait one every day. But i didn't want to all. She was not happy. And i never had another one after that. Of course you for at least the you never got one. The year after she was having none of it. I still get asked. No no i did complain. I never got one last year because around and that ball that came so it won't what did you say you well. It would have been. No everyone else's is going you on. Yeah well why. Didn't you say it would seem that. I the woman in this regard. This is classic. One of those like sheet wrong comes when women's fly call now. We don't have to do valentine's gift. And then she boise my fucking cau- and she puts on some sexy lingerie in turns up onto no sway afterward. Look off that. She has a meltdown but it still the way rain. 'cause you're willing. I am a big woman. Yes i am. Hey we don't do gender norms in this house year boy and also i haven't talked over you which will please some people who complain about that. So yeah. I think i've talked to over which is actually genuinely distressing supposed to be the host. Who knows what they're doing tech that feminism also ever fuck article loops and of johannes is going being rich overview so much last time that you couldn't breathe at one point it was insane. I think that's disobey unlike can't to in the episode only think it's funny but now window whether this is why people think that you know is also lakers. The accounts are catching. This are kept saying the same sentence originally. Because i've talked about stall each one of you would start talking and i thought it was really funny but listen listen. I'm just going to make what these high school i. Add cannot try to make these of the stupid thing is if somebody can't understand that we're clearly doing it to wind you up as a show if they call police and realized that we clearly got more respect for you. This is our member. Because i was here the tolerant and i was thinking Sounds like she's going to cry. But i know she's laughing with people are gonna think she's about cry but i know she's not cry. I know you're not gonna crawl baseball germany anymore. Thoughts on a very merry garfield ever if you've got twenty two minutes and you wanna wight noise in the background go for it is not really is listening. Offensive interest free law. I think if you've got if you've got failed only thinking you've got a hankering for hair bay but nor actually hearing some sexy all person less than you might enjoy. That was a that was awesome where she was like all. Look at these vermont as oh no. He's definitely talking about pork in now. Let's move on filthy old people with the latter's pure filth absolute for civic with and hope gold. Do we have to wrestle. Mike's max jazz accessible another one oh so is going. Twenty jazz mugs. Just i know that sophie piece called. it's funny analysis like totally off topic now but zip cast. There's an episode where he goes to rent some videos and he thinks he's renting porno. 'cause it's called the furry honey pot adventure such woodland creatures hundred took chung anyway. You'll be glad to know up. Started watching auntie. Donna's big house attainment fucking so for kim way but when it's when it's forty very funny like that one with where he's playing ellen degeneres always croydon that you need to watch and you know are more even put a link to this in the show notes because everybody should watch it but there's a sketch that they did. That's like not part of the netflix from Eating christmas put thinker pretty in the pollen facebook group as well. I've seen pictures you've been putting of it to its apps. Absolutely creases may in a car and explain why because it's just three blocks talk nevada in which they want. Some christians puts all day. what is it. i was like a sketch comedy group for new zealand. The soviet from australia so they go in. It must have been several years but all of a sudden have been given an netflix show So that's that's the only reason Vitamin was because the show was produced. Boy scout come. Who's the guy behind the comedy. Bang bang podcast in. He had the malaysia. I'm always piecing mustafa. One of them is actually hassle italian in his family loin and he keeps doing stereotypical italian characters for laughs. He giving me the like look instinct much a really very christmas. Everybody absent up some food not have some put. Jesus sent to say if you let me put up some lock. After what you just said done suggests the people of donate is so good for you dub depending both son don't talk. Would you recommend gulf christmas special to accuracy missiles amine. I wouldn't not recommend. I'm not going to say go out your way your watch it because you know it's just but it's also not going to hurt your always if you ban on it so boy it's it's not it's not offensively bad but it's i think just because he signed a finnish offend me. Trump is is literally it's why why milquetoasts white white breads you piece of shit garbage. It really is go well. Hey love lease that was Steve kastenbaum spectacular. It was a spectacular much longer than usual story. We were reminiscent of the christmas past walmart. Any if you like to get in touch with us to at stacey's. Paula sender's name nameless. Thises parlor at gm dot com. Send us some. Many few loyalty is christmas after all. Coffee dot com forward slash. Spacey's paula and on a sort of semi serious note annot this year has absolute trash for a garbage times the people and for some more than others because they kidneys filed and just on top of all the general that was twenty. Twenty donghai most brilliant But you know as good of christmas as she can whilst remaining sites and keeping to the papal size and you know get vaccine when you camp when it should be a dushi by. And i have a great christmas a fabulous new year. And you know have some poodles some local get paid all they both on a moment. We love you wire. Remember a jet. Fuel steel beams. Just ringling in. Time do commodity. The'media don't to me. She's mowing so we can call our hover always completely there. I was just laughing. You sang over the five hours choking experience. Look also cover or one. And i'll sing who early. That's feminism twenty twenty roy. Seriously let's go on a gift for you. Soppy ma boom. Remember when my brother. Doc boy. And i were little brother here. We go against chop down the free chores. Mom would fix up the meal work done. Get in the way of fighting fat hairy deal attacker tree. 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Garfield Kart (w/ Joey Clift)

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Garfield Kart (w/ Joey Clift)

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Don't worry now it's time to meet the cast of characters starting a with a murderer for those thinking that true crime and comedy don't mix those try not to make fun of the victims or the victims families but it's hard not to make fun of a murderer who thinks that attractor would be a good escape vehicle small town murder releases new episodes every Thursday there over one hundred episodes back catalogue for all you binge listeners and you can start anywhere but my we suggest the beginning had over an apple. Podcasts stitcher spotify wherever you prefer to listen to podcasts and search small town murder Right all right. We know what you're thinking you're thinking shot up and give me murder. Heather you know after spending all this time playing Garfield Card. Oh Yeah I can't help but notice how similar to Mario Kart. I'm sorry Mario Kart Mario Kart. What the long running. Kart racing game series with super. Mario and I know who's Super Mario is all on. Let me Google something home. My God this is just like that movie. Yesterday I've somehow ended up in a world where more does not no no? No we raise cars as cats lap lasagna while doing laps in Garfield Cart this week on. How did this get played Hello and welcome to. How did this get played the show where we discuss the worst and weirdest video games of all time your host other end? Campbell alongside Nick Wider. Hi Nick Wider and next to me is our producer Matt Up Odaka. Hello everyone out now. The show can begin. I'm really excited about today. Show you don't a lot of our listeners. Stop we have tracking data? They stopped listening. Twelve seconds in this one. The hello everyone our. They're day once a year alone. Everyone say hello everyone back. Yeah that's that's what this is the hello stars in the store. I got paid ten thousand dollars recently to do a speaking engagement and I had to say hello. Everyone is that true. No it was twenty thousand dollars. I paid them. Can't wait until you guys do start doing live shows and the audience just like has the most rapturous audience right. Hello Ed be the first time for me for the fire exit. That's all I need. Is the beetle. Beal Mania I. It's Hello Mania. We've got fuck and terrible game this week but what? Oh okay a little teaser. Lou Hint. I'll just say It's my response and You know before we talk about that game And descend into gaming. Hell I think we normally spend seventy seconds gaming heaven. I think this week nick. You're going to be spending seventy seconds. Final fantasy seventy seconds in gaming mid Gar. Thank you for taking my pitch. Heather add FA final fantasy seven thirty seconds in heaven in Gaming Heaven and then I added. Can we make it says? Final fantasy seventy seconds in mid. Gar which she did not like. It is a hat on a hat. It's unnecessary it's Gilding. The Lily Y- clock is ticking. Twenty seconds I play the final. Fantasy seven remake demo. You're actively not avoiding this demo even though you're gonNA play the game and our big final fantasy seven fan. I don't WanNA play the demo. 'cause I don't WanNA spoil anything so I will say it's a weird experience playing this level of remake where it's very involved like. I just remember things from you. Start playing final fantasy and which I played at the time I play would've came out and you play this demo and it looks fantastic. I mean the character models are great. The environmental look great but just that you have a fully controllable. Three d camera is very disorienting versus something a game that famously has fixed cameras with pre rendered backgrounds and then just hearing the voice acting the combat goes from you know select pianos on a screen to a very sort of you know pseudo pseudo. Rpg sort of a way of doing things and it's like. I liked it a verdict. So we introduce our guests. Yes yes returning to the show. A writer actor and comedian from Camp Nick- NICKELODEON and a noted Garfield enthusiast. Joey clift is back. Hi Joey hello everyone. It's like the here I go to say for the record. I'm I'm not a big final fantasy seven person. I'm interested person. And where have you to beaten final fantasy sex? Yes I I've beaten Let's see basically my my finishing final fantasy ends with ten saying that's actually which basically lines up with when I entered adulthood but I would. I would love to finish fifteen and thirteen and later I'd love to do wow now but I played like I played like thirty hours. Twelve and finish it. I will say that that six is probably a series highlight. It's just so it's just so so good. Yes six to me was like like when I was a kid. I remember that being just like a transcendent experience of like it's like. Oh this is what you can do with like narrative right like that and I was so excited for seven like there was a there was like a final fantasy seven billboard outside of my junior high that I would salute every soldier cloud when I played it was just like this level of hype. Honestly like hell it down a little bit. I was just I looked sick so much. Seven could not reach. It's like it's like this is probably what it feels like to be a star wars fan like loves the the original trilogy so much and to see anything. That's not as good as that yes. Yeah Yeah I mean I. I wonder if there's anyone who can relate to that I had a I had a. I love seven. I prefer six. I even would say I like four better as a game. Seven but seven. I think is good. I like I'm a big eight defender. I love final. That's my favorite playstation one final fantasy. I love the story and the look of it. I just didn't really get into the draw system Like it was just like I don't know I like the system so much like the draw system was just like the story. It was great. You've reached the point where I was is Bat. Shit crazy like you wouldn't know that monsters are going to come from the moon or that. You have to go space unless you read supplementary material around the computers in your classroom. It's crazy which I of course did of course win nine nine. I think was also like a big series highlight really great was kind of like a return to like the SNES sixteen bit era in terms of storytelling and it was great. I had a similar reaction to nine that you did to seven which I was so hyped. Four we did. We had to hard basically hard SCIFI slash dystopia of Entries in the series and then nine was like this returned to like this the steam punk high fantasy approach of the Super Nintendo Games. I was so fucking pumped for it and then it just didn't quite live up to my lofty expectations but still a very good game. I had sort of. I think the invert so I have not beaten six and I told a story on on this Show that I am. I have a save for Sapphire off on seven. Yes under level. Can't beat him so I haven't factually beaten seven eight through fifteen I've beaten. I mean not. You can't beat eleven or fourteen but like eleven. I played for two years of my life right and so I was the that was the massively multiplayer. One right and so my like my experience it's It's like the flip of Ray you've gone through. Twelve is incredible man by. Yeah I I mean I enjoyed twelve and I was engaged by told. What's the mechanic where you're going online? Hunt Sir what is your your. You've got like a bounty system. Yeah you just called hunts. But I'm not like arouses. Yeah yeah and it's sort of an AI. Driven battle engine. Were you create? Gambits that determine the sort of like a battle flow for for your party and then you just unleash them on a monster and watch and then at some point you're like. Oh Shit things are going wrong so you have to like reorganize stuff on the fly but it was great. It's like managing a baseball team. The video game for those exists. I feel like I had a similar experience with you with I think. Final fantasy eight right. Just got so into triple triazole like. I probably played like. I probably put one hundred hours. In Ninety of those hours would probably try now and then I just got like exhausted knows like home done with guide without saving after playing for five hours. Now it's like I be trouble. I had I had a friend who got sucked in by blitz ball and I was like wait a man I could not I did not click for a what we're what we're for you about blitz. Because I felt like it was I just never really got it. I just did the the the amount that was required for me to progress in the story. I I guess with blitz ball what I liked about it was I honestly like the Narrative Tie of his dad being famous blitz ballplayer. And I think that for me it was just sort of like I've got like to me. The story of this is and it turns out this is a story of the game is like It's was titus yet. Yeah this is like even at the start of the game was like. Oh It's Titas story of trying to overshadow or beat his dad so I was like. Oh so I'm going to do that. By having him be the best blitz ball player so that kind of became. What the game was to rai- so I got really really really good at billets ball and I was like well. He completed his narrative. Don't have to leave the town and I wanNA talk a little bit about final fantasy all day. How did this get final fans? But I did WANNA talk a little bit before we get into Garfield and cats as which a topic we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA dig into the WanNa talk about. I know you're someone who plays. Indie Games is there. Anything you've been playing in twenty twenty. Actually it's funny you ask. That actually wrote a list So Games that I really dug in twenty twenty Hypno- space outlaw It's a really great Have you played it? No I feel like you would dig it it's Basically the premise of the game is you're the moderator of a message. Board game is literally like it's cool. It's the game is like the story is Euromonitor. Error Message Board. And you'll get requests that are like oh somebody told something or like you know. Somebody like posted something attacking somebody else on this message. Boards you've got to like find their personal website and it's like one thousand nine hundred so it's all Geo cities so you have to like find their website and like figure out like Oh. They did like they made fun of this person on their page. So I'm giving them like demerit which is going to suspend them from the board for a couple of days and threw it. There's actually a really really great narrative for me. It's like probably one of the best stories that I've played in like video games in the past like probably a couple of years. My jaw has just been dropped him staring at that Matt's pulled up images why to cast that a fucking awesome. It's just like a love letter to like the late nineties. Internet in the form of like kind of just like a point and click adventure game kind of with the framer of a moderator for message board and then Let's see next. I got a bunch of guys that is weirdly eight bit. Pixel I really dug into the style on kind. Words is really good it's it's an Indie game. That's a massively multi player game where the entire point of the game is for your kind letters to strangers like actual strangers so basically the way that it works like you can write a letter. That's just like hey like I'm having a bad day at work or whatever and then everybody reading watching the playing the game will get that letter and they can read a response to you. That's just like a personalized. Yeah so it's just like spreading kindness and It's really good it's I think I wrote like an AV club article about it so check that out. I guess wow I can own it. This game is writing sad letters. Real quick I is starting your up but on this topic so when I worked for activision my first job was in customer support and that mostly involved answering the phone with a with angry parents upset that the xbox game they bought for their son didn't work on the Gamecube so like it was mostly that was ninety percent dealing with angry parents but the one one task that I got is that people would just write letters into activision and they were just like hand out to us. I can you guys answer these. And sometimes they'd be from kids just like talking about like how much they loved a game or like how much they love. Tony. Hawkes pro skater. And it's just like I. I felt like there was the moments where they cared most about. My job is like a write in earnest response to this person thanking them for their for an activation product that rules. So that's that's what kind words. It's the perfect game to play for like thirty minutes at the end of the day. Because it's literally just responding to like you know a teenager that's just like oh. I'm about to graduate high school like I don't know what to do with. How do I feel about that or whatever? It's just a it's just a nice game. Yeah and then A run through these real quick Overland it's basically like it's an Indie Game. That's basically like a post apocalyptic x COM. It's like pretty cool sunless skies. It's like Sydney years pirates but like steam punks like so instead of having a ship. You've gotTA train Ex-con enemy within its on ninety game but I Recently like I do a lot of gaming my ipad like I recently got back into that. And superfund and then a minute. I think this might be a thing that you guys would dig. It's basically on. It's essentially like legend of Zelda. Top Down Style Action. Rpg. But you only have sixty seconds like you're cursed so every sixty seconds you will immediately die and go back to the start so it's basically like you have sixty seconds to go through like dungeons to do all these things and then like once you get to a point after the dungeon you'll say point or whatever but Kind of the things. I've been playing lately. Those are great. The Frothy Rex when so when Matt was googling these as you were talking and when he searched minute which is spelled M. I I just typed in minute game like the how you spell it like minute maid and it brought up the minute to win it video cameras the Guy Fieri show also. That was the next time I was admitted to win. Circled and underlined a bunch on your paper. It's like the rest of. It's just that show really took a nosedive when they swap toast for Apollo Antonio no shade still talking Tan right. Well final fantasy Dan. I've lost all the threat here. What's happening? They got the pro. So Guy Fieri left the show. They replaced him with weight. He he left the TV show diners. Drive ins in the show minute to win it. Which was let's start over mats catchphrases? Hello says at the top of the show. People Cheer Greg Another show yet. Another ame several. Show that man more so I'm a guy feary defend enough show. I'm an idea. So He's Yeah. He's very popular and he's a very charismatic host. The show minute to win it and it was a it was a it was on NBC. And it's basically involved a very menial challenge that someone would have to do in a miserable time so it'd be like stack eighty cups in one minute and you see. Someone tried to frantically do this and then if they did it they'd win a Shitload of money or like flip a waterfall and have it. Land right side up on a on a small stool It was all things like that it was. I thought it was an interesting concept. Charming show. Didn't they swap out host for Paulo Antonio the Pro Ice Skater? Okay that is just like as a a TV writer. I see concepts like that. And I'm like Oh yeah that's probably really easy to do. It's a good way to fill thirty minutes. He's one hundred cups so I know you're an not just a garfield enthusiasts cats at large your your big time Feline Fan. I'm very excited to talk about. Cats cats and video games are my two loves is. Is there a is there? Are there any cats in video games of note that come to mind? Besides our our orange friend Garfield CATS IN VIDEO GAMES TO NOTE. Probably Kate slash cat. She frago seven Other than that I mean there definitely are. I feel like there are a couple of cats and I mean once again. These like Weird Indie Games. You can select a cat as your partner with where it's basically like you have a choice between a cat or a dog and the dog attack people on the cat just meows. Sometimes on all team cattle the way this is an indie game. Awhile ago where you played is a cat knocking shit off shell game. Also catt quest is like a cat. Jr PG Like Yeah what other. Good Catkins are there So you mentioned final fantasy. Seven and there is kate. Seth is the giant Mughal. Yeah with the cat who controls him sitting on top of his head like some kind of brain parasite and then there is also the is it an actual Mughal or is it a what. I'm so big. The Big Guy. The big thing chanted isn't it? It's not the deal is is that. Kate Smith is actually controlled by a guy who works. Shi'a and rain. You meet him spoiler later in the game as like he's just like behind a computer and he's like hey. This is a robot control. Oh I thought it was. I thought the cat on top of the Mughal was real and that the Mughal was enchanted. But that he. I don't think it's all I think it's all controlled by like just a guy who works at Enron. Who's like he's on your side braves like doing it secretly? There's there's also a a goal or you're saying can I spoil I don't want to I don't know how to. How do you unspoiled a game? That's been out for like fucking twenty. Five hundred people are going to be. Maybe they've never played final fantasy seven. They're going to be approaching the final fantasy seven remake for the first time. How do we handle this exactly right? Because I think if you're not going to spoil a major plot point you're probably say about to spoil a major plot point. Okay so I guess I can't It's the this is not the final fantasy there are just went. Battisti's spoil say it and then if if you get freaked out about later edited out. I thought that it was. It turned out that cates was a spy that he was a bad guy. I don't I don't think you could be right because I also crazy same deal. I haven't played it in like twenty years or yeah yeah But like I mean. I don't think 'cause like when you're fighting South Roth you can fight. Southworth K yeah. He's you find out that he's a bad guy and then he he joins your team. Yes I think you're both right. Yes he has this Shinwa affiliation. I'm looking at the final fantasy. Dot FANDOM DOT COM website and. Reeve character uses keats. Spit Kate Cith to spy on cloud and his allies and report back to Shinya. So that's that's the Shin retire right there. Okay got it is. We've I feel nothing. I also WANNA give a shout out to unreleased socks the CAT Super Nintendo game. Oh Yeah I think it was like socks like cat on the forget. What the name of it but Yeah so if you're if you're if you're Bill Clinton fan or Clinton Fan and you like his cat socks you could. You could have played a video game with them if they actually released at. Did you ever leak on that? I'm sure the Romley Donna. Oh you know what it's this is. This is saying that socks. The cat rocks the hill. It seems to imply that the Super Nintendo version did in fact hit shelves for the Sega. Genesis version was cancelled which I wonder if that's true or not hands on this. There are some screen shots though so imagine the Rahm is I mean. There is a review in Nintendo power for the game. Yes so and it sucks. Apparently is I guess. We've got to do it in perhaps in upcoming election year. Yeah the person. I feel like the person that reviewed that game as a strong leaning adjustment or a strong doug leading it other final fantasy is affiliated cats because you mentioned there too and final fantasy seven there of consequence the red thirteen residents of course can cool red cat cameras in the remake watch. You can't play him. That was announced this week. Please read thirteen. I gotTA cancel White preorder also Camera Kamari Rather Who is the big blue cat creature in final fantasy ten? I really I really like the Sony. Cat whose name. I can't think of at the moment where the Sony cat like. There was a Sony. There was a cat that was baske- yeah between a crash banding No. So they're in Japan. There is a there is Doro in a way He's like Mascot in Japan and he had on the playstation three a news program. Where every day he would he would give you. The news like in a little like cartoon but like a pre rendered sort of environment and I have a little statue of him on my on my desk. That guy he's fucking Google can get. I love that cat. I know of every cat been the caddy and Garfield Cart transitioned into the alright. Well guys there it is. This week's game is Garfield cards so excited. An animal and Human Kart racing game published by microbes and developed by Artifact Studios Games based on the Garfield show which is based on the American Comic Strip Garfield which is based on the Creator. Jim Davis desired dominate. The World of licensing. It was released in November two thousand thirteen for Ios and Android and then on in Twenty fifteen and thirty s and steamed other games of two thousand thirteen but this game in context only a couple of years the last of us. Wow grand theft auto. Five Super Mario Three D world grid too like those were the big topping. Them all on his Orange Tail Garfield car so we we played Garfield Cart. Joey did you play Garfield Cart at time of launch? Or did you just come around to it recently? For THIS SPLIT. The podcast honestly. I came around here recently. It's definitely a game that like was in my just as a big Fan Garfield It was definitely in my purview. But like I just kind of never got around to it so I was very excited to come in. The show is just an excuse to play Garfield Charter. What did you? What is your as you say. You're a big Garfield Fan. Did you did. The comic strip sleet none of us. None of US slept on purview. None of us left on it. I was waiting for it to happen. Nobody Wide Open Lane and disappointed that you didn't jump up and then quickly look back at the microphone like I'm not doing full disclosure. I used to host a monthly show. Ucb where I just interviewed celebrities about their cats. It was called chats on cats. With Joey. Clifton Matt was my cohort. That was the ED McMahon to this catch twenty eighteen twenty seven. This was twenty years ago. This was the nineties socks. The cat was the house and it was great Bill Saxophone. You when you write for a cat themed talk show you get really good a cap fund just becomes your language. It's that same disease you get for having too many cats to plasmas comedy writer. Talks about Moses. Okay so you're asking Yeah when did that begin? Because I love Garfield is a kid it was it was that the case with you so I definitely was somebody that grew up being Just a really big fan of cats in general so Garfield just kind of became kind of extension of that. I feel like either. My mom bought me just like a Garfield book growing up or I just like saw one of the library and I was like. Oh a cat. I'm on board and Like I remember Reading it and becoming just a really big fan I feel like I got a lot of like you know Garfield Year calendars and then that kind of like I'm you know the far side and a lot of other non comics which I guess are fine and I'm then into adulthood. I definitely just like became somebody that like loved Garfield but also just loved trolling PA PAS so Like this twenty sixteen. I changed my twitter. Handle from Garfield Garfield official the day that I realized that the Garfield twitter account was not verified. And then I just preceded a tweet like Garfield facts every couple of days and it was just like Garfield Fact Seven. Odi is a dog and then like and then. While I was doing this I saw the Garfield twitter account was doing official Q. and A. With Garfield called Hashtag ask Garfield and I was like. Oh if I just like. There's their accounts not verified. So if I just answer the questions before they do. Nobody's going to be able to tell the difference between me and the real town so I did it. Got Blocked by the Garfield. Twitter got write ups. Av Club and stuff like that. It was Super Fun But one of the things I was able to do in that is I tried I kept on trolling at Olive Garden. How they should send me free stuff and they sent me a DM and thought I was the real Garfield account and they were like. Oh we'll send you a catered meal right deposit. Can I was like this? Feels like fraud? That's free all guard and they sent me a twenty dollars. Gift Card for lasagna civically. Four LASAGNA I mean. They didn't say it was for LASAGNA. But like you know penny and tried to read a couple years later. I tried to get Jim Davis to record video for chats on cats and his assistant was very nice and she said yes and then five minutes later responded with like wait a second. Jim Davis does not have time for that so I think that they might have googled me and wait a second. This guy in. Yeah hold on. We did get a a famous Cat cartoonist Yeah yeah we got the current cartoonist. For heathcliff to God he was very nice. Yea like garbage ape. I know he's cliff is out of control. I love you. So it's we're going to spend the next forty five minutes in Knicks land of Heath. Glad we're not gonNA spend too much time on heathcliff but I will say that I feel like I've tagged you in a couple of like. When a new garbage garbage ape is a fascinating character and the nick is taking off his clothes like he's got hypothermia coming days where we celebrate the billions of amazing women. History has ignored jerk. Aaron Gibson and you can kick-start women's history month with my podcast history. The sequel where I am joined by a cool team to chat about influential women of the past who shaped our world walking backwards and in heels from the first female astronaut treaties to Apache Warriors. We'll explain yesteryear because the BEAUTYREST FEMALE. And so was the past history. The sequel is out now mustard and apple podcasts. Stitcher wherever broadcast okay. So here is the today's the Garfield Strip for the day. Were recording. It is a it is Garfield standing on his porch with his hand covering his eyes in shame. Next to two kids and in the foreground is a robot squatting over to pet a dog and the one of the kids says his robot is a Dog. Person Nailed it. What is going on wait? That's the Garfield the heat. That's the heathcliff Garfield Bizarre for today. So so heath lives watching a robot. Paddock dog and the kids are saying that his robots a dog person and heathcliff appears to be ashamed of it. Here's another one. This cliff is in front of a fish store with. So here's here's the main thing you need to know aesthetically about. Heath cliffs is the strips involve. The convention is the Simpson while heathcliff. Doing an activity and to human bystanders. Commenting on what's happening. That's basically whatever heathcliff looks like so on on Kgo comics the heathcliff for March seventh which is which is Saturday. The Sunday Strip is is. It's a whole nother thing. It's heathcliff snowboarding on a fish. In front of a fish store and a cop says to the fish store owner I hear it may become an Olympic event nailed it. What is the what is going on? I don't know honestly what I think is going on is heathcliff comics originally started You know they were just like the Sunday comics of the time. Where there'd be a setup in a joke and heathcliff actually predates Garfield by a couple of months he does. It's like hydroxyl Orios exactly. Yeah Yeah it's amazing. Yeah Yeah I think. I don't think that anybody was copying anything else. It was just like they just happen. I'm invention and Like nowadays I feel like it's it speaks to the state of I think daily no Sunday comic strips and daily Comic Strips newspapers. In that it's like you can just get subversive and insane and nobody's telling you right so I really think that the deal with cliff is. He's just a comedy writer. That like trying to get away with as much as he can. Cause like so many of the strips are like like you said it's like garbage will be walking down the street and the textile be like well. There goes garbage as gorilla holding a trash can ninety some more context here last one. I'll just having I think he's just getting away with as much weirdness as he can. It's just total absurd as That that doesn't really have traditional punchline but it can be maddening you try to dissect it because that's really all that's going on so this is a suburban couple. I'll turn this around so everyone can see this. So this is a suburban couple standing in front of their house and heathcliff is walking away with his backside facing us and on his backside is a tattoo that reads game over now so he stole my tattoo caption is he stole my tattoo. That is bad mood. West Dad is saying to his wife. I'm assuming that I'm inferring. Their relationship thing there. I think this is stole my tattoo. I think this is a top me that I should be writing. Well let's let's pivot from east cliff to Garfield that mean. I don't know he's got a game over. Tattoo on his ass and the DAD is upset that that was his idea he was also GonNa get a game over Tattoo on his ass. Thought it meant. He stole it off of his body. Possible it's possible. I mean what they meant. Dad had a game over Tattoo which is already got me reeling. And then heathcliff managed to take the from the lands body nonconsensual skin graft. I mean to be fair. He was covered in blood on this real gnarly. Seen face off so beyond Garfield Cart which which we have a lot to discuss about. Kart racers do you were you a Mario Kart Guy. I mean I definitely grew up being a really big Mario Kart fan type of person. That like when Mario Kart sixty four came out. I like didn't have a ton of friends that like also into video games that I was so I would literally hanging out with the Fred. Meyer near Roy lived near the Mario. Kart kiosks within ten thousand four and just hustle. People still like. I didn't like take money from anybody. But it's just whenever anybody would like walk up to it. I would like pretend like I was reading something and be like oh I would also like to play would beat them and then just be like I did it. So this is I would say a very direct clone of Mario Kart so the so much of it is just one to one right down to the way that the steering right that like the drifting works court jumps Bernie mechanic the power side. Make you wiggle. They get a boost off. Yes you pick up Bonuses from Rolling Over Candy Instead of question blocks why Candy Candy have any pertinence to Garfield? I think that's a lot of my like issue with the game as I feel like. It's it's just so clearly like a rescan of a generic kart racing. There's no effort to like there's no effort to Garfield give me some fan service. Yeah exactly there's like no fan service you mean. Garfield doesn't spend four out of eight eight levels in the desert. I just wanted to at least give it to the game refusing to load on a Monday. So all right like there are eight characters in this game. We can get into them. The eight characters are Garfield. Jon arbuckle those were the only two that you can play as when you start the game winning this because John is the best character in the game so you can choose. I won't argue odious Garfield Jon arbuckle. Then you unlock Odi Liz. Wilson Neural Arlene squeak. Harry and spider. Can I say something about Harry? Who Fuck is Harry Garfield remember you remember? The Classic Garfield Character. Harry's free what I have his bio here right here. He's a cat who garfield often encounters usually in the series Harry shown us is Frenemy He's very badly behaved. He does not have as much morality as As Garfield Kerry Harry loves to eat birds. Yeah so that's a that's a little bit about about hungry. I'm disappointed that they didn't use John's a roommate that existed for the first year of the guy's Guy John for the rest year and then he just disappeared. He's like He's like Kelvin's Dad's brother in Calvin and hobbes around for like just like yeah just like the for of one storyline and then never resurface. They had some like us acres characters or something but he has appeared in many many many episodes of the Garfield Shell okay. So He's a cartoon care he EgyptAir. Yeah he has been in all four seasons of the Garfield show in multiple episodes. So it since this game is sort of based on the cartoon and not the Strip. Maybe that's where if you like that site defending this look like I play the game and I was. I definitely had a lot of the same questions so I did like going to a lot of research into it and it made a little bit sense that this this isn't based on kind of the Garfield that we know and love. This is John. You know the the Garfield cartoon from when we were kids. It is based on like you know a French made cartoon from like. Yeah the mid two thousand dollars to the mid twenty tens so there are a lot of characters where it's like. Oh yeah like Harry. Reid's like like all the kids who watched the Garfield show love Harry but like us as Garfield fans are like what? Yeah it's like when you if you watch like a modern sesame street and there's like it's like Rudy. Is there like who is there's a rudy. Now what is about? You're just a little little disoriented by it. The most disorienting thing for me is when I looked up John or buckles age and he seventy here. That makes sense. That doesn't feel like can feels like someone he was born. July twenty eighth nineteen fifty. Okay I guess if you're extrapolating from the characters like when the character I think his originated. I think his his human age is supposed to be like twenty nine or something like that. He's younger than me. I had the exact same reaction. He's my age when you learn when you like for me like watching Seinfeld and then use like wait George. Costanza is thirty in this episode. I think what on earth I think homer. Simpson is supposed to be like thirty seven. Yeah he somewhat. He's ever somewhere between thirty six and thirty nine and various seasons but yeah. He's very much a late thirties. Guy So Yeah you reach the homer. I've reached both the homer age and weight recently also used always catch a lot. Something that's interesting to me about. Garfield Cart is like the Garfield Comic Strip originally started as counterculture in the late seventies to kind of like hippy culture. So when like have a nice day was such a big thing. Garfield was countered of that because he was like Monday suck and I hate my job as a cat. Or whatever and like Garfield has at this point where the counter culture has become such a mainstream that there is counterculture to the counterculture so an example of would be like do you guys know like Like Gore failed or like Garfield is a horror movie character. there's Garfield minus Garfield and so many other things where it's like. That's the inversion of Garfield which was already in version of something else real field. I remember seeing on your cat. I'm sorry John Subrata inspired by Gore Field. Which is a read it or at all. And you're not checked out. I'm sorry John. Be Prepared to be delighted and genuinely horrify. And if you WANNA watch Comic Strips of Garfield and John. Fucking more covered in lasagna. Truly the place for you but like I think Garfield Cart is confusing to me because like it's not subverting anything it just is. Garfield driving a go-cart. It's not like a commentary on Kart Racing Games. So yeah what the fuck. What about the? What about the titles of the of the levels themselves isn't that subversive in the hood that felt like the one place where like the even injected? Just the slightest bit of comedy. And do it. Or it's like the character descriptions because I think that Garfield character description is just like he's a lazy cat or whatever. John's was just like I don't know like he's real. Do fear whatever you know. Yeah we I mean we have some some funny you know course titles like cats in the hood dementia country Bumpkin Crazy Dune prohibited. Site was a big enough fan of this game that I watched through the entire credits and I don't think Jim Davis is our name in the credits of this game. Feels like magic? Jim Davis touches. Not On this game. He took his name off. I feel like I recall. I mean like the joke I made at the beginning about the licensing stuff. I feel like that was based in reality. Like wasn't he like aggressive with licensing in the eighty s and ninety. I feel like you still is actually another me. Trolling airfield story. I tried to see if I can get the license to Garfield for like a dungeons and dragons. Garfield knock last year or something and I think it was called like Lasagnas and normals or something like that. I had very thinly Figured out rule is one of them was if you roll a six six and it gets a one then. It's a Monday and you have to take a massive stat depot. But like they didn't give me the license and I was like I think I even responded with like. Come on you give everybody a hundred dollars this idea as to creative. So if you're listening to this and you work at pausing sorry about the twitter thing give me the license for the. It's very much like again at everything is very one to one with Mario Kart. It's divided into cups. The LASAGNA Cup the Burger Cup. There's a pizza cop and then ultimately lockable ice-cream cop which I did not get to. There's also the same speed difficulties which is fifty one hundred one hundred fifty. C is C C go kart term or is that a Mario. Kart turned cool cat because it CC. In Mario Kart too I was yeah I was really blown away at. How much of the game is just ripped off of? Mario a reminded me of this. This gay humor. Great Jonah Sisters which was which was a clone of Super Mario Brothers back in the eighties for I believe. Pc and commodore sixty four don't accommodate. Commodore Sixty four is like a kind of a blind spot for me. So do we do have a little clip of it here. You can see. We'll play a little bit of this and you'll see just how one to one. This is what Super Mario Brothers. It really is just that exact same game play so we've got like blonde girl character. Who is your control? You hit star blocks and diamonds. Come Out Moomba. Bah Huber on Muga. It's a Goumba who looks like an hour. That's what it is and then you're hopping over pipes have a middle segment for some reason. God The music is awful. He's really terrible. This game is actually decently regarded because it was one of the better platform first of on on Commodore Sixty four because it was just a transparent removal of sue. Mario Brothers if you like tomorrow graphic sixteen fans. Did you have a turbo graphics? No I wish I was coveted one commercials and I was like. Oh man we. I feel like that. Just kind of reminds me a box adventure. Bonk's adventure that was kind of the Mario in the sonic of the turbo graphics. Sixteen and it was just like I never. I think I might have played it at a friend's house or something but it was just like. Oh this is like an alternate reality. Mario raise you know. I've only got really busy. I did. I played that one a little bit on emulator later in life and I did actually enjoy it a little bit and I liked the character designer like that giant headed to the I I want to admit one thing which is that. We talked about power sliding and drifting. Yeah so you learned this. In the tutorial I'm very glad I wasn't live streaming this because I had some difficulties with the Garfield Cartoon To`real I reached a point where I couldn't because I just misread something and I thought it said like it was telling you to generate blue lightning. Which is what happens when you're drifting when your power sliding but blue lightning also comes out of your carts tires when you go rhino or a one of those arrows that are on the track and so One of the speed boosts and so. I thought that's what I was supposed to do. So just doing laps. In the tutorial repeatedly doing that trying to advance the next thing it wasn't wasn't happening and eventually they'll look up what is supposed to achieve. I did not play the tutorial at all and didn't even know that when existed this started the game and I was like I wonder how similar and then everything was the same. What are your better served by not playing the Detroit? Peiser turtle shells right Here's the Garfield Cart math pies. Peiser turtle shells. You're saying. Lasagna is is a mushroom boost. Perfume is a star invincibility. The spring is different. There was no spring. I think kind of like the feather. Yeah but the problem with this spring is that like you. Sh you shoot it out. You don't use it as a it's a it's an obstacle you create for people. Is it like a banana? Then Mario Kart you can use it to give yourself a speed boost or you can use it to to stop someone else. Which is confusing. Yeah I guess actually. It is kind of like a hybrid bananas slash slash feathered appendages. Use It Part of my issue with Garfield Card is. I was playing it on a Mac so like on a keyboard. Yes and like to there to shoot something behind you was like you press one button and shoot it in front of you was like three buttons simultaneously. I ran into that a lot. Where it's like every pie. That I fired fired backwards They're also many just confusing things of like. Why is lasagna speed boost? Wouldn't that way you would think so? I at least I was. I was more comfortable with that than some of the others because I was like. Okay lasagna. At least yes. Mario eats mushrooms the same way. That Garfield eats lasagna. On Your desma Garfield bigger. So yeah. We're the never mind. The program is this game but like the UFO. I was like I was just trying to remember our. They're aliens in Garfield. There are in a couple of strips. So he gets. That is a thing but I feel like aliens were a thing in the kind of the cartoon I remember there being an alien Garfield and then the perfume I was just like. I don't know what that is. All of our field smells great A magic wand and I do like the mechanic on the magic on where it switches you in that place. You're in second and you hit somebody or if somebody is fourth hits you then they become in fourth and second. I think that's a pretty cool additional power of. Yeah that's cool. I like that the that the key to is a spider who is like you know the the guy who serves that purpose the guy who gives you the You know the warnings and the Likely because that's like the spider is a big thing that POPs up recurring LII in Garfield. It's always a thing he's trying to. Why wouldn't be a Giant Cup of coffee? Oh that's it that's it. You cracked it. You solve this game. The big issue is pulling his hair out profit ripping notes spent ten years figuring. This thing we do in this show is like. Hey what do you guys know about? Garfield likes lasagna. And that was as far as the list. Go even get to haning Monday. There's no like there's no nothing like nothing else likes lasagna. And then they were like. Oh hold on. I got this. I mean this other meeting or something loves. The desert has to go to the desert four times. His best friend is hairy. I hope that the reason for that is that they just misspelled. Desert on the production of croker programmer was just like oh. He likes desert Him going through some food based world's would totally totally track The one you mentioned the controls on keyboard I use an xbox controller but one maddening thing also playing it on steam I played on is that it has a quote unquote partial controller support. Meaning you need a mouse and keyboard to navigate the menus. You can't use your controller for yes. I feel like if I had if this game is for children boast I imagine. That's the demographic kids watched this cartoon. I feel like the demographic for this game is people who are into the meam the the ironic enjoyment of this terrible game and ultimately became but I think the intended audience originally was probably kids and I feel like this is the thing you need mom and dad to help you get through the menu of the Garfield show. We're a couple of episodes of for In research the show and also just for my own enjoyment. And it's definitely like a game show geared toward preschoolers Preschool Garfield Gar fuck. That's like astronaut. That surprises me. Since the tone of Garfield the comic is so like specifically like dolt not young adult like. Oh kids don't understand it but ends up like if I was a preschooler. Why would I care about a guy in his apartment? We'll see I think has Garfield I. I think it's just like a very very superficial level Garfield cute and if you like cats you're like hey it's it's it's like my cat. I mean that's that's how I got Garfield I think the so. It's a little clunky. The game is a little clunky but I will say when you actually get into the game. Play it's not terrible it's an okay Kart Racer. It's playable like with someone of the Games we play on. The show are just like a just messes just absolute garbage and this one you you can dry right a car around track and ultimately win a race and its gives you some satisfaction. I guess abomination I get so here. My experience of the game was that it felt like you were writing rides in an empty Disneyland. You're sort of boring is very board was pretty but the music was sort of offputting and there was enough time between interactions that. I had like moments of self reflection like it just felt like I was in a in a an ineffective place after something terrible had happened. Got It and that's like it feels. It feels like the skeleton of a game that was never finished or a demo or something. Yeah it's pretty it's pretty thin and But I feel like it's it's still playable but you're right. There's not a lot of life in this world. Your Pitch Garfield Cart being about a sad place. Where something fun did happen is like a cute that makes you wanNA play desolate. Yes like an abandoned theme park. Yeah that's what I mean. I guess until recently there wasn't online multiplayer. So like you could only yourself. Yes that game expansion a sequel to it. There was basically just a risk of the game with four new levels plus multi-player field cart furious racing which came out and twenty nine thousand nine hundred so then the enjoyment of this game is is. It's just you playing these tracks over and over again. I guess so trying to get achievements trying to unlock everything. I don't know that's how he played Super Mario Kart. I played it against my brother but I also tried to progress through the campaign. I have a question. How like how much time did you did? Both of you put into. Mario Kart or Garfield Tournament Garfield Cart in terms of actual game play. I put about an hour and change into it and then there's sort of like I got it. I put in less than an hour in guy because I was just like okay. I get this and then I watched probably two hours of other people play. I watched a bunch of game play. play throughs so for me. I I was genuinely excited about playing this game and I kind of set aside a night to get really into it but then five minutes in I got horrible motions to the point like I don't get it sometimes with First Person Games like me to do with like bad frame rate and this just like hit it for me but I also like knew that like I was excited to come on the show and play it and talk about it so I just like I literally stood up for my couch in my living room paced around a little bit and thought to myself. Am I willing to throw up to play? Garfield and I went to. My kitchen grabbed a pot for my kitchen. Walked over to my couch. Set it down next to my Mac book and then just continued to block and it was like I I only play. I played it for probably about an hour but that was with like brakes. So yeah like after every all the four races after every race the first race. I like put a pot in front of me that I was like I might throw up in this pot the second race I needed to just lay down in a dark room with like flies club if finally got to the last race and I was like okay. I really feel sick and like dizzy so I finished the last race while sitting on my bathroom floor and like as I was finishing it. I was just like I might throw up finishing this race but I finish gotten first place. One like fifty lasagna trophy and I was like you know what this is worth it so I really. This is my just to use the wrestling reference. This was my cody. Rhodes being being hit with a belt by an Ray Like just like zero story of needing to play through Garfield Char got my applaud your commitment and also you didn't have to do with how much I loved her aware. That other Games came out in two thousand three hundred. I was locked in a cave for a little while so locked in a closet. A positive gotTA check out this grid too. I was writing this down so like grid too last of us. GotTa gotTa Grid Too. Yeah so that was gonNA mcgarth experience. It's like really legitimately like it's just like in the motion sickness so bad that I still feel sick today. Like honestly worth it. Glad I did that. If you feel slightly sick for a decade was it worth it. What's your year? Cutoff is your six months. Three months for Garfield. I'll do anything about the rest of my life. I motion sickness and it's caused by playing carpio cards. That's like a funny story to tell people this year. Why not. I'll do my friend at target in middle school. Who scanned his eye with a laser scanner? And now just has a black dot thirty was it was a good bit. Was it worth it as funny? I think it's time for the review grew right talked about this fucking game long enough field us. We're going to say something positive about the game and then give it a new miracle decimal rating and I guess I'll go first since I just introduced. Have I ever introduced the segment before you done it before? Okay great okay Let's see something positive about him. We didn't even get into the music and that's a negative so I can't use it. Music sucks just so terrible. And it's like very short loops rate. Something positive I guess I guess kind of like once. Vhs One over Betamax. Everything was just sort of released on a format and everyone sort of agreed that this is the format that you use to watch a movie in that way. I don't mind that it feels so much like Mario Kart. Because it's like well somebody nailed it. Let's just use this format in some of their way. So I felt a moment of joy when I drifted for the first time and it was instinctual as opposed to like learned. I mean it was. You know what I mean. Yeah worked that being said I'M GONNA give this game at two guy. Well I liked it. This is a positive. I like that instead of laps. It says rounds when Mary Mary Choice. Turning round two of three. When you're when you're lapping the course. I will say I also like that. This game does not have micro transactions. Feels like it's one. That's right for that because there are so many things to unlock and lock them with in game currency. But as far as I can tell there's no way to spend real money for the Garfield coins or whatever the fuck they aren't. I thought that the Garfield coins were a micro transaction. Thing could be wrong on that but like it. Just kind of like scamming playing. I thought that that was a it. Seemed like it seemed that way at first at first glance but as I was playing it I could unlock things just by collecting coins on the courses as I was as I was playing through it so believe there are no micro transactions. I can possibly be corrected. I will also say that speaking of your instinctive just sort of like game played joy from just being something familiar. There is a thing that happened. Involuntarily which is one of the cups and it's a thing popped up that said you've unlocked. Liz. Same same thing and it just SORTA Kinda Kinda naturally. What like yeah. Let's go put my fist realizing I. I think this is a functional game. It's not great. It's not innovative. It's a rip off. I want to give this a four point. Eight met up with Dhaka for me. Look I love. I Love Garfield. He's a great guy. I know Garfield is a a male character. There was a lot of In the Internet there was a lot of controversy about like what was nemos gender and also what was Garfield CNN. And I think that normal is official. Both of them are boy. Cats I think so and Garfield is technically man. No there wasn't a gender thing that was a species human. He's one of my favorite man might hero. I Love Him. I think he's I think he's funny on paper. I mean obviously we talked about it. I have notes obviously for some of the tracks while one the Pizza Cup Hamburger Cup. And what was the other one? The ice creams doing one of those things that goes into cup. That's a good point. Yeah sucks called something else And she'd be like this Soda Cup. Yeah water but I feel like you need cons again if you have the meeting. Heather was talking about where you're just like. What does everybody know about? He Likes Sean. You okay great next meeting. It's LASAGNA. Needs to be in there as much as possible. The Coffee Cup would make more sense. One of the tracks. Could it could be like Garfield Cup Odi Cup? One of the tracks could have been Abu Dhabi. You're sending him. Samson you spend so much time in the desert none of them are no so those are for you pausing. You can have those. But I'll save positive I do like it is very funny to me. If it's not an intentional joke they should take credit for this. John would be the best driver because he's the only human being in the game a game but the humans should be the best drivers because cats don't know how to drive. That's a good point. Somebody doesn't remember toonces I remember careening into ravine. He was a good drive drive. You didn't know how to So I mean I'd rather just play Mario Kart does say I'll give this a two as well. Wow I joy at Okay so To me This game was you know like it was. It was an okay. Kart Racer You know like as a fan of Mario Kart mechanics. Were Fun like Heather. Said it was kind of boring. There wasn't really a ton going on everything about the game scream generic and it didn't really Like it just didn't it didn't feel like an effective use of the Garfield brand for like all the fans of Garfield that would be into this also the game literally maybe play it while sitting on the bathroom floor ready to Puke as I was finishing a track into the game to make me do that. I made myself but still the game. Put me in a position to do that so it made me feel a sickness that I still feel to this day but it uses the Garfield brand and gets pausing some money so ten out of ten very high score. Joey cliff coming in hot. What can I say? Put a GARF- on it and I'm on board we did you did mention it. Being this game had become a big name and I think that will tie in with our with the reviews. You're GonNa read but one thing on that topic. The Garfield Cart Wikipedia had been sabotaged and it told people that after the LASAGNA Cup. You play through the Penis Cup so that is not true that Canon reason by wikipedia cannon. Those Jim Davis took his name off for most interest. Free all right hey. Those are our thoughts heather. But maybe we're maybe we're wrong now. Has a ninety six percent positive rating score on? I agree with the people who scores too low and that's in large part because it did become a meme everybody like saying the game was good was part of a thing that people did. I avoided steam reviews as a result I tried to find actual places where somebody might have actually had a positive thing to say about Garfield Cart so my first review comes from Google and it is a five star review. And it's one sentence and it's just Garfield is too quick too. Thick the age of that reviewer is rather like five ninety. Eight people found that review. Help Book I was eight of them. I did pull some steam store reviews. I try it. It was a it was a little bit of a of Labor to find some that felt on ironic. I feel like this one is on ironic but you guys can be the judge of this story by Kengo. Sor recommended on seem sources. How long you play. This guy's twenty eight point five hours on record dug into this game. Okay you know what I was going to do something stupid like I'm done with this after I get platinum metals and all the time trials. But no I'm done with Garfield Cart. I've been suffering for over a week to get one hundred percent achievements and I think that is a challenging task to do. There's a reason. I never capitalized Garfield Cart. He's been in as little time. It's because to me. It feels like let's stay a little bit deal legitimized. The game isn't bad. You know it sounds like it would be expletive deleted game it really really should be expletive deleted game but it isn't it's a full game and a hate the that fact the reason I hate Garfield carts so much is that I don't hate it. It's only when I am sitting hotel room people Rami doing their homework or playing. Actually cool game like smash brothers and I'm trying to get a spring at last puzzle piece in the track industrial puzzle business. But that's the thing that unlocks things when I wonder what my life has come to. Goodbye Garfield Cart. I will miss you and I will not miss you the way I go after this is unknown but is nice certainly going to be a better use of my time sincerely pained mad at Paducah. I I this off of read it it is it's a legitimate question with a legitimate response And the post is is Garfield Cart actually good or a meme. I'm confused because hardcore reviews. Don't rate it very nicely. The steam pages full of reviews that look like jokes but yet it has nine out of ten is very popular. Is it good or is it all just a bunch of meaning round? I WANNA know if I should not be bombarded with jokes and the reply is by Oral Shit on your roof. That opens up just like an introspective question about the nature of quality of entertainment right. And it's just like we're always maritime with video games so why not wasted with garb. This is a quick steam store. Review by skippy. Dingle Chalk not recommended. Zero out of ten Odi exists and then they also got this. I pulled this from Garfield Cart. Wicky so this is the. This is the Fan wikipedia page. Not The one that's actually on Kapadia and someone commented. Fan commented all the comments here just say Garf- This is in response to a just a wall and then someone replied to him must be part of the strange mean thing going on. I think that that's something that's very interesting about the Garfield fandom is like there are legitimately like you know just like older people in their sixties seventies online who are like on ironically huge Garfield fans like there is a there's literally like every two years Garfield Convention where collectors will like collect Garfield Memorabilia and stuff like that so there is a senior on Garfield of just like people that grew grew up with it that are genuine fans so I wouldn't doubt it if that was actually just like you know an older person that like loves Garfield and is like. Why are people making fun of my favorite Sassy cat? I one hundred percent think. That's both of the both of these. People are just genuine fans trying to figure out and then also I'll add that one of the popular user defined tags on the steam store for Garfield Cart furious racing at the time of this record is hint. I wonder what just old school Garfield fans think of. Just like the sketches online of like Garfield fucking. Hey that was maybe we're wrong. It's time for a segment San for another edition of Fan. Theory or cannon already fact from video game franchise and the three of you can tell me if it's a fan theory or it's in fact actually cannon. This week were talking pokemon. I was going to animal crossing because animal crossing is about. The new one is about to come out for switch and their our animals in it so it seems you know it seemed very cat related but the fan theories for Animal. Crossing are too dark news. That me Mr Rossetti. It's it's it's weird. It's very nihilistic. Uh so this week. We'RE TALKING POK MON. So here we go all read one. Read one of these. You tell me if it's if it's Canon or if it's a fan theory I up the POK Mon your mask used to be a human and the mask it carries is of its own human face. Dang glad other that's cannon but absolutely as cannon you mask is a spirit Typo game on introduced pokemon black and white from the pokey decks. These POK MON arose from the spirits of people interred in each retains memories of its former life. Sometimes it looks at the mask of its own face and weeps God. I love next one. Human beings are just POK Mon without the ability to evolve. Dang gojam theory. It absolutely is a fan theory. This is some explanation. Remarkable humans can learn abilities attack and have to heal from injuries. The only reason human pokey monitored dominant is because they can build structures and create pokey balls. That is the reasoning there but it is not supported by wait. You mean to tell me that I'm not a poke him on my deck like this. There is a weird thing in the pokemon cartoon we're like there's an episode routine rocket gets trapped in a Polka Ball. And when we come out of the Paul's they can only say their names. I have a lot of questions about just like pokemon science logic here. Next ONE POK. Mon meet is a food source for people ding That is True that is has been established cannon. I think magic are there. There have been like if you watch. There's like magic harps on sticks a slow poke tales delicacy. Yeah Yeah that sell for a lot next up everything that comes out of snore lack. What befits blue body is actually a decoy cannon? Ding Matt I. It is a fan theory. This is from a username Gal. She a quote some fancy. Read this explanation there. There's little tail on it. That looks like Like a smaller Waldo yes. Some fans theoretical blue portion. While the Fed is not the actual body but merely a decoy for the real body. The tail. This explain why the Fed has such a high endurance for attacks. Several POCOCK's entries add protect tail at all costs which would make sense of. That's where his brain was while the vets is on its blue. Never move or change shape and the Black Tail. Always peeks out from behind so it's plausible. It's real faces on its tail to me. This seems very strongly supported. But the evidence is all circumstantial. It is not confirmed when there is I mean just like a buffet as like a smash brothers character as smash brothers drop like if you hit him he like bounces back and hits you so it does feel like he's a decoy. Yeah I'm convinced of that. Yeah I was GONNA say. Oh look he's GonNa cry. I got it wrong up and I fucked up how to answer. I'm mad at myself. It's okay buddy. I almost threw up playing Garfield choice so I get you man the same last one and this one may be obvious but I think it's a good one end on brock from the anime never opened his eyes because we made eye contact with someone they would turn to stone anyone. I'll answer it go. Ding Matt you meant must answer. Oh boy really just garbled that so anyway. Miller Band theory. Matt you're correct from you on reddit quote. Branca'S FROM POK. Mon is cursed with the mystic is of the Gorgon Medusa. If he opened his eyes and looked at someone they would turn to stone. That is why he became a rock type. Pok Mon trainer you cannot turn stone into stone. Interesting rationale there sources for this one. I pulled a fifteen crazy. Poke him on theories. Fan Theories by just Walter Screen rant and the ten most bizarre Pokemon Fan theories by Sarah. Run Sarah Menendez for manageable. It's time for the question block. Ding alright this one is from at Mikey link on twitter in a card game based on your life. What are the power ups you pick up? Boy this is an excellent okay. So armee it's was on Let's see I would think that my ability to even drive. The car would be predicated on driving over a prescription bottle of anti anxiety. Medication one boost or no. That's just out to get in your Mario. Kart is like a train on rails. And everybody's always in the exact same position at the beginning I would do a train simulator also there. You can get a full bottle of red wine which were censored writing. I WOULD WANNA power that provided distance between me and the other players like like like a barrier. Just so I'd feel safe. I feel like for me. My speedboats boost would just be the promise of a conversation with somebody about cats or prowrestler. Try Faster for that matter. Anything of mine think that my speed boost would be the idea that I may be left something on at my house and that just trying to drive back. It's like Oh Jeez. Oh Jeez churches catchphrases fuck fuck. This one's from at game. Apartment since Garfield Hates Mondays raisins and spiders. Where does the? How did this get played? Crews stand on all topics. How do you feel about Monday's raisins and spiders Mondays? Raisins and spiders feels like the year. Twenty two hundred version of fuck. Mary Kissel stope raise in two days to marry. Chill is to specs kind of works. Eighth announced from a a monologue took time to select stories. I I will say that I. I don't like Mondays on. I have a day job. Who would like them? I don't you know I I mean rather not be working So I'd say hey I'd say hate Mondays neutral on raisins neutral on spiders. I find SPIDERS SCARY. But they don't like to like. I'm not GonNa Stamp on Spider Spider. My House I'm going to try to assure him on his way out the door you guys have heard the theory about. Why Garfield Hates Mondays Right? Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. He doesn't have a job so what he really hates is the John. Leaves the house to go to work. It's actually extraordinary. Second Hour you also heard that Garfield is dead right. He died in the early ninety proved comics literally ceases. Real Comic Strip was going through some shit in eighteen. Ninety two there's also it's also proven in a comic strip that Jon arbuckle drinks dog seaman. Jim Davis has hit became such a thing that Jim Davis has gone on record to say that it was not dog. But I think he's lying and so for me if you would've asked me if you've asked me as a kid I would say. Oh Garfield is my Bible so I hit all of those things as an adult. I mean let's see I like raisins just because like I duNno. It's a healthy treat spiders. I don't really like that much Mondays. I like spending hugh I I got bit by a black widow before then I was really down with the spiders but then I got bit by a black widow and what happened. It's on instagram. Fucked up my arm and go to the hospital. I had to go to the hospital and was this. Was this a bit related injury. How much can I piss off displeasure? No I was. I was rehearsing a sketch comedy group in a garage and I leaned against a wall and got bit by a black widow and didn't know that I've been bit by black widow until two days later when I had red lines going all the way up my arm and so I went to the hospital and they were like well. We're GONNA put you on a bunch of stuff and And we're going to hope you you fight off this toxin. That's in your blood now but they're you know there's a possibility that like if if that's meeting the ICU. On Monday and if that doesn't work then you'd probably lose your arm on Thursday's the stakes are high for a black widow by. Yeah he was racy so I did like spiders and now I don't like spiders where you stand on Spiderman I mean I guess I like I like Miles Morales Good Spiderman. I don't like Andrew Garfield which is ironic because today is Garfield Day But I- WHO's the other one. Tom Holland Tobey Maguire. Tom Holland and I liked tobey. Maguire and spread Matteo. I feel like we've talked about the festival. It's really good. Where do you stand on the launch playstation? One Game Spider. Where you play A robot spider. We should play it on the show honestly platform. There's some wild launch titles are all right. Let's let's let's take one more question Matt. Okay then this one. I'm going to do this one. This one's her Mad Steven Ray. Moore's per cast metal goes do worth rule Great Stephen Ask. Who would be better at video games cats or dogs cats? No question What is your argument for that? The cats fucking ruling and dogs drew does do drool that I have no rebuttal for that swishing. I feel like dogs. Get too excited about getting excited So if if they did something good they would lose focus on during whereas I feel like a cat's energy is that it doesn't really care about the output of the thing so it might be better at the thing also. I've seen that that that video of a cat that figures out how toy works like it's like a cat toy. Where if you push a lever than a like a little Goblin comes out of a hole and you can watch it processing how it works and then deciding that it does not want to play anymore when they actually have. They have IPAD games that are specifically designed for cats to play so like cats understand video game right like a lot of simple stuff where it's just like fish moving cattle swat at it so now cats ruled oxygen. Again dogs jewel. Yeah can't come but the my argument for dogs would be that because of their because they can be obedient. I feel like they could learn a simple task and I feel like they would maybe stay a on a. I feel like they're more likely to get quest on the more likely to get the main campaign done whereas cats are gonNA meander and do all the side quests cats I guess if we're talking about just from a controller standpoint. I feel like dogs. More dogs eat controls than cats control. That's true a dog may just eat the controller in that way that might be hard to come back from the VR thing. I feel like the dog would probably be better But if it's like a control interface or touchscreen field account would be better I mean. Let's be realistic. No none of these cats playing video games team in a video that I've seen in the and it's just interacting like it's in the real world it's going to cut to twenty three hundred and low world where like you have to choose between raisin Monday or whatever. Cats are the best gamers future. We all look forward to Joey cliff. Thank you for so much for coming on. The show played played pottage. Email dot com. If you have questions for us joy. What are your plugs if Thanks for thanks. Really back legitimately. Let's see My plugs follow me on twitter at Joey etain. -ment follow me on instagram. At Joey clift like five is the reason for that A twelve year old took regular. Joey clift so now I just got ads mayes man. This is GonNa be a weird plug that will make sense in a second so Pignataro has done a bit on twitter for a while where she's basically Had like a different comedian takeover twitter account every day A couple months ago. She tweeted about how she was thinking about doing something different so I tweet it out her basically to say like hey you should put more natives on your twitter account and she said yes so. She asked me to put together a full month of a native comedian. American COMEDIANS Artists activists and that's this month so follow me twitter but also follow. Pignataro on twitter if you WANNA see a bunch of cool natives do and stuff that's great And then Let's see other stuff. I WANNA plug I actually bought a t shirt specifically to be on this episode of this show boy he's buttoning so he's now the second naked man in the room okay so it it's from t t fury. It's got a picture. Got This field on it but it says neon genesis of Gallia so this off brand t shirts. Yeah so I was like. Oh it's the perfect thing to wear for this great smug looking to buy this off. Brand Garfield t-shirt cool. That's then Garfield Watson subs face subject. What IS THE DUBS? What is the question? Oh sub subtitles. What does Garfield Watch subs or DUBS? Yeah does he understand human language? I don't I feel like he does but also all of his his ideas are they're thoughts your thoughts so he thinks in subtitle. Yes so he would watch. That's my that's what I was thinking too. I think he's a sub guy. He's definitely he's definitely a substance in hoagies coastal town Matt. What's next week's game next week's game is TVD? We don't know yet but once we do we'll let you know. Hey you know. We talked about Garfield Cart for like ninety minutes. Even talk about how Kooky is Teddy. Bear isn't in it. Are you still? I'm sorry I I was packing my bag and we didn't even touch on our attractive are Lena's I mean those are the biggest issue for me is just like how am I supposed to play this game with US fucking boner blocking my laptop screen. Yeah Nick I'm I'm packing up. I'm GonNa just rock hard the whole time. I rented yeah model is on different every week.

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The Gentlemen of Elegant Leisure - Episode 70 - "More Pink Drinks for Valentine's Day"

The Gentlemen of Elegant Leisure

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The Gentlemen of Elegant Leisure - Episode 70 - "More Pink Drinks for Valentine's Day"

"The who's going to call the meeting to order financial reports, by the way, I know we're going back to the gold standard telling you that right now so called agreed agreed bitcoin. Yup. If we can get it. Hey, what do you know about hackers? Stump the band, the Maori All Blacks. Yes. But before they do a rugby match. They do a hack we're going to start doing that. Yeah. Although we could start doing that. But I don't know if that's culturally insensitive for us as non-maoris. Mary's you're doing now doing a hacker. Because now is I guess the problem is if we were to do a hacker. Yeah. Oh, right. Is that is that culturally insensitive because we don't know what we're saying is that even a word in the Maui Maui. Maori-language? I'm thinking of for our New Zealand listener. Yeah. Yeah. No, let's do this. I I'm going to do a count again. Yeah. And then we'll we'll all go who will add it sound. That'll be our gentlemen of elegant haka Bill. Okay. There we go. Hello, cocktail fans and welcome to the comrades of elegant leisure. I dave. Called on the gentleman gentleman Dryden, Jason laying out threat, a little Frith. Greetings, broadcasting live from Google thirteen. There has never been successful escape from the never will. No. I'm not gonna no he's not playing along to start like that. Funny funny. Malia sipple. So the Russia joke tells you. Oh smirnoff. If you're listening to the line droplets here, you'll do accent in Soviet rancher accident does you know? Last one about that. Indeed, it does this. Linney ways, then happy Valentine's Day, two gentlemen. That's we're combining. The theme is the color red. Cocktail wise share for reddish pinkish reddish color, which I think we have done in our previous years drinks right off. But that was six collusively for Valentine's. But this is also working towards the socialist utopia. Vision by here. Because we're making a communist cocktail tonight. We are. And what says yeah. Valentine's and communists goes together. Quite like that. That's what's yours is mine is yours to sharing. Yeah. Of getting married or being a relationship is a little bit like communism and Saint Valentine, he's he's scared. The snakes out of Poland. Poland right, debris it Saint Valentine. Now, he was locked up somewhere. Wasn't. He wrote Valentine love things to probably is girlfriends, maybe. Book that out. Let's go back to Saint Patrick changes. I know. Is that based on fact, do they not have any snakes in Ireland? They have no snakes stink. The reason. See they reverse engineer to reason they did. Now, what would happen? If you went it with a couple of snakes. They knock in the head of the puck home, cultural the speaking of controversy insensitive. There's some other club blood instrument. They I think they'd be happy to should lately. But the ladies the weapon of jas of the course Constabulary. I I want to do some research. I think makes Ireland. Famous Irish rattler, should we wait like a garter snake? They have all that lovely green snakes to hide really snake heaven. Let's green grass snake. I'd love me. Love to be hireling. Now that spring is here. Well, there you go. So yes. So you Dave coin you are the instigator of these drinks. I am not only. Are you kind of suggested the communist not that I'm saying I haven't even by suddenly trying as the Democrats start to warm up their their their runs in the US. You're trying to get the progressive socialism. Social, the social Democrats, social Democrats. The hammer and sickle pins wearing what? Put that I have a hammer and sickle. If we have time, maybe can tell us your your uncle's east. German story will see if we have time we have time kind of lengthy. But it. Yeah. I don't know. I got a good one to tell. It's not a bad one. I think I don't have the details. Right. But it's still a good story. Well, we'll try spills out goes. I'm sure blend of your will call you to correct you afterward. That's I'm just wondering. Yeah. That's what I could use a different name or I don't have to use a name. I see my uncle. You're guessing what were you gonna do gonna give address? Email. Works. We're gonna put a map on lie. Before plug every he goes to the max pick up a newspaper. So so visit there's an evening newspaper. Oh, I think of clan of got what it wants to get it evening newspaper. He's a love anything new speech. Section which COMEX go right to the comics. So although in my heyday. When was that? It was in the eighties. Awesome. It was when Doonesbury came back a lot of people don't know this. But you guys might because you're a couple of smart colors. Doonesbury refused to be shrunk the continued to shrink comic strips over the years. They used to be huge. Used to have a separate paper that was just comic strips. As an it kept shrinking intriguing intriguing it, but Doonesbury said, no if you're going to run mind, you run a this size. And so the Vancouver Sun moved Doonesbury to the story page remember that? So I would read it. I get a to'real page. I had read Herman. Of course, this guy. Jim monger. I thought that the cat the need did the. The cornfield Jim Davis. Get my gym's mixed. Sorry mix. Jim davis. Room read Herman, then I'd go to the Royal redoing very, and then it was. We're the entertainment section in the cuttings. And then the obituaries. It was a very solid team. Always dark side of the I was always curious to see how my revenge Flint. We're going slowly poisoning fellow classmates. Statute on that. There is no statute of limitations Canada. Anything me, great, really? That's pretty super. So you could be caught for anything at anytime. Done letting it spill onto the broadcast much communist regime. Forgive nothing. Segue. Buzzing skateboard, that's your that's your hearing aid though. All right. So we're gonna what are we doing? I then. I don't know. We're doing of, sir. You go him even what we're doing. But we said we're doing the communist cocktail number doing the secret the secret cocktail, that's because nothing saints. Valentine is. And secrets. Yes. All right. We'll do the communist, I agree. And this is gonna come from our old friend whom we've never met. Jed Hague head Hage from his vintage cigarette. One. Yeah. See his three time for another book as our at least a revived edition of the original. Lisi man's. Bitten spirits and forgotten cocktails. Yeah. That is a great book. But yeah, you should be. You think you'd be updating? We've got nother drinks. We didn't even know about the could be. Who knows why I don't mind using this book, but I also hate using this book, and the reason that I hate using this book, I think they're actually a website out there where a guy went through every recipe in this book. So it was like we're sort of following along and that guy, but he's doing a blog. Is different. But I didn't have this. So I use that doesn't say that. I read a couple, okay. And that's Bennett soon as old thing. That's why don't hate using this book. But I still is it. Well, there's other books. All right. This is a great that we all haven't intro. This is the this is your intro. And this the preamble preamble if no the intro, the Brambles after the Trump, but no this is how you start. And then you you you get all the other books. But I think this is a great professor. I think for people by people not us. Right. Can I borrow your copy of the book Mattino where did they were right here right here my hand? All right. But I think if you if you're thinking about if you're listening to this podcast or watching us on the YouTube. This is the book to start with because it's got a nice matter. It's got a history and. Some resources, although a lot of stuff that they can't get you can get now you have a good point. That's how the book has has gone. The all the guys have been be a strong Irving all the manufacturers. Make all these weirdo cures. Tinctures whatnot. Yeah. Now now now, the new ones now, you can't get those tinctures you can't buy anything anymore because you're making everything's made from scrap which not much on the communist of Ted saying if Thrum forgettable cocktail book gold cocktail parade. Yes. From nineteen thirty three s that in fact, he says it's a crude and otherwise, quite forgettable cocktail pamphlet. Crude crew the language that is just his. Shocked people say will somebody pondered, well, shouldn't they be vodka cocktail? But thirties, you couldn't get gone really read up in North America. So it is a gin based right and Jin is just vodka grownup. Anyway. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Start with vodka. Then you throw stuff into it to make it palatable, or at least a flavor our political a lot of people platypus'll of I think the British. Well, let's see what's in it. It's got an answer. Jim. And you brought Queensboro small batch dry gin proudly distilled in hand bottled by central city brewery, proudly come on. It's just a business talked to them. They're pretty proudly pretty proud. They like the point things out. The good words. I kept putting quotation marks they're not actual they're at their awards without quotation, double gold double gold now. What is this? Who's out a double gold go to the Olympics? Get co away do if you if you do events, but does that mean? Yeah, that's what that means. They won two gold one of this. I don't know. Sounds like you're that folk I don't get out very often. So all of these rules that are new to me. So they're going to be at. Sancta cocktail slate of this week. Oh, I'm Bill. They bring their Queensboro small batch dry. Jim. They could be foolish that. They didn't do they use the British Columbia's finest spruce tips. Yes. Or are they from where do you get the finance spruce tips while they're just spruce tips. It's by definition their finest. Because they're Bruce Columbia, of course, where the spruce was invented. Yes. Back in nineteen seventy-two people. Don't know that now seventy two recent. No, it'd be a nice tree spruce something set. And they said like the spruce goose sh. Sh just developed it in nineteen seventy two and Rocky Mountain juniper berries. Oh my God. I had Rocky Mountain juniper berries once. Oh at the painful, it's bitchy and painful that I got camping. Rim shot anyway. So we're gonna use an ounce. Jen an ounce of orange juice what ice freshly squeezed this very afternoon from what from an orange explains the color. I got an ounce. Sure, actually got two answers. But I drank the other ends. What are you drinking worse us? Now, I was drinking back because it was freshly squeezed by not only announce that's the benefit of making your juices fresh ever little extra the side. Little why got the drought. Side two. Actually, I. Good and it calls for cherry brandy now he likes cherry hearing. And I like cherry theory. I like cherry hearing so much that I use my cherry nearing last year on something else. So I've got out the old bowls. Cherry brandy from Holland. Which is the camera. Amsterdam Amsterdam's what damn sorry, screw you answer darn should call it. Yeah. The family show this answer to the kit. Holland the Netherlands the only country that everything's yet. The Dutch live in Holland, which is the Netherlands and don't even get me. Started on the Spanish Netto. Know nothing about that either and three quarters of an ounce of fresh, lemon juice. What we're going to squeeze right here. Live on the show from one of the are you going to do that? Brought my pincer squeezer is up this up. It's called. I don't know what it was called. I got it here. Let's put this together a communist for Valentine's name to cut this right now. Is it fell time say song? All there should be Valentine's Day on right down to. No, that's just happy birthdays. No. If you can't get the notes rate. Your ears. So. He can't sue me. No, brother. That's what I say. This report of announced this is the new one that has the onces all in the wrong spots. Get a clue oxo and you make another jigger we need to be able to see the else's easier. And like that. Valentine's Day song is no happy reaper. But it's still pretty good. Happy report to be. I don't know that one you say that one did I all I did on the last episode. I only know don't fear the reaper. Listen to our episode. I sure do hated us into the episode and not all the way through because at the end I've been working on my lot dialogue for the plan. You're not just making up dialogue again troubles fast. It's confusing after remember somebody else's that's hard. How do you do that? I don't know. So so they'll so haven't listened to it all the way through because I've been sort of focusing on that. But hopefully next week. I'm the grow lax and start listening to the podcast and the radio because it is they're still radio. They're just clinging on like. Laxatives favor. I'd like newspaper disfavor. I could do with paper. Awesome ice pop from the Queensboro gin. How's that smell of spruce? Cussing spruce? Jen. This is a very nice, Jen. I'm going to give the Greensboro. Boy is that. I'm gonna give him that. I'm giving them triple goal. I'm concerned. And here's where the red comes in this half ounce of cherry, brandy, right? Which is. It's gonna make everybody happy. Happy. Are you worked right? Having this. Excited. Got the holes. The bulls had grabbed the bulls by the warn. Gold. Hey. What? Shield. My hands are Buddhist. Shield mahan. He's the peop- pants. Famous hockey player. Well, like that there's not remotely read it all though yellowy orange drink. And yet if you look at the picture down fixture with community ordure. Maybe you forget agreement. Before there's only four ingredients in there and. I think that the maybe that's why he likes cherry hearing and photo shop. Maybe communist believes that red is so yesterday, and you know. It is pretty nineteen thirties. Oh, look at that. But you take a picture of when that red light shines while there are red. That's funny. You take that one David with you with you. Much of anything. Bad way, orange sort of. Some grains, just overwhelms with its orange his actual quote from the book says this enjoyable number with the unforgettable name derived from crude and otherwise quite panther have been putting in. As Pawtucket for say though, and just takes one picture. Shop to advise the color. You won the communist. You go. Long live social. Steve sure. A Marx brothers. Here. Carl crazy marts curl was at least funny of all the anybody always going on political diatribes Joe got paid more than the rest of the Marx brothers. The little broadband is seeking the can you name all the Marx brothers? Sure. Can I can't I only grow Harpo? Zepos Chico EPO Chico and their fifth one. Yeah. Myron martin. And there was an I thought there was another one. There might not be zip. It was only a couple in the end of the fifth. One gets that wasn't in any if you're a fan of the March brothers, and you want to hear a lot about the marks friends. My cousin Dave who does the sneaky dragon podcast? He boothby. Also did a Marx brothers podcast. So we should listen to that next time before we're gonna talk about the yes mobile just redirect people there. I'll put a link at the bottom of the blog post, WWW dot gentlemen of elegant, leisure dot com. Check out their podcast because they know how to do it. They got to Mike foams long. Oh, yeah. I've last one I was on with three hours and ten minutes to. Lawrence of Arabia shorter. So what do we think of the dream the communist? So you sold. Capitalist. It's midland. Really? Yeah. All right. The orange isn't particularly orgy which surprise because I just said how much orange overpowers drink not on this one, right? The orange on the nose is a smell like orange. Certainly not sweet all know was that many eleven. It was a twelve. Jus got this. Again, if got Jin orange juice, equal parts of those then only a half ounce. Cherry brandy and three quarters of an ounce of lemon, juice. And so there's a lot of room for tart to enjoy writing the readiness one, right? This like communism. Can be a little tart. To acquire taste. There's no one player that really comes through. And they don't mix. Hm interesting. You will is it. Too much spruce. Should we have used arranging or spruce? Maybe less limit. Right. That is a lot of what if it was all equal. I wonder what if it was now Jin announce orange juice announce of the cherry brandy and announce a lemon juice. I'm gonna be equal time for everybody. You are. Like, a communist ingredients of the communist aren't aren't clumsiness to and the cherry brandy is it's disappeared. Right. Think I kind of like, oh, you've come on it. Conrad. You see how it works? Birth was e- pig nothing. It says why communism is in city. I everybody on furlong Fred's going to be extolling the virtues of the limit. I wouldn't want more than this. Right. But I can certainly finish. It. It seems. It seems like it's boozy Limoges to me, but not eliminate kind of way. Conrad boozy lemon juice Suzy limit Josue. Yeah. It's it's grown on me. Well on me come back to my question that I now ask not drinking. I'm somebody's cell phone. Would you had you ordered this in a restaurant? Would you order? This again new. Well, again, come back to that argument about I don't to the same. Cocktail. Nice. Try something else. I probably would order again when evening, right? But if you came back to the restaurant a month later, would you say, I'm gonna get me a communist because that's how I start out my evening fun. Maybe okay. Compare it to the next drink. Yeah. Let's do that say would you order that one again? Or would you rather have a communist? I already know the answer my view had the secret cocktail. We're only calling it the sorry go on I. Two nights. Wow. Yeah. Did you know we were doing it on the show news before the I? You should have dumped it out, right? Then in there. Now, I've only call him at the secret cocktail because that's what they call it in the book rate, but because the name right is off putting for the communists in the people. Order all day long. But the secret cocktail is. So so named by teddy. Yes. Because he thinks deserves a better champs people give it because of the thing we do. It's not even that easy to make that in Canada. Because of course, the the apple jacks are hard to get right? Did not it's it's even either. Right. I think they have done a legacy to. Yeah. That's that's a forty minute drive. Crazy what he says is just so, you know, the real name of this drink is not the secret cocktail, which is what I said, he's just plagiarize me. But but fifteen years ago, he says I will eventually reveal its rightful title. But before born today as two characteristics that scare people to death the name. It is enough to send virtually all men and most women running away screaming, I think you might be over sticky. Bill quietly read the okay? And and it's got a white in it. That'll send me running the other girl. Because you're scared eggs. I dislike it a lot of people don't know this, but Dave was attacked by ostrich including child, it's not like eggs ever since. But he'll have one for you. Dear listener. Yes. For art for his art. He will do. But anyway, so it's got a got a raw egg in it which scares people. Although I don't know how often most menus now if you've got a ri- anything and a little blur. It says there's no screwing around to Vichy the states where their eggs usually three asleep. Right. Bacteria? I think that company by skull and crossbows. Minutes. Do not eat. Org. Julius. You. Get an egg in your orange Julius. Laughing about that just recently. I had it every time. I said this is great. And did you ever get it with the shell? And it's no convey would do that as well. I never wanted to pay the extra. The other guys. Can I have no egg? But only shell. Yeah. And of course, it's funny because everybody around the world except for North America keeps their eggs at room temperature. And they're fine. They seem to me growing like crazy. But for some reason, America eggs are kept at subzero temperatures. Now. And anyway, so wherever you are in the world, maybe a friend Hayden that listens from New Zealand that you just pick up agency just read off the ground just this way off to work. You'll just look down ill. There's an eight, but it is for later. I know. I would I would I haven't packed. I found a little Zik when I was a kid, and I forgot all about it. Oh, really sticky pocket. Oh. A little profit. I did not know that would have been a better story like six weeks later, Robin fluids. But now six week later. I said what is it? My pocket. Oh. Egg now to be fair. Yes, I think it was already damaged when I picked it up usually are out. But there is a chance that it was perfectly fine. But probably not healthy. Probably anyway. Think about nothing. Could've been. We're gonna make a secret cocktail. When does he revealed? I'm not today to page two. Okay. He says it similar to a clover club, which we could do another day. Right. He says the secret Cocu was not a clover cynical over club. The thing is that just has lemon juice in that doesn't has dry gin this Applejack, which is an apple brandy fade in New Jersey's the pride of jersey, certainly is using layered in companies because they're the only people. Making it since George Washington. They gave the recipe to George Washington. Yeah. Around seventeen sixty George Washington discovered. This unique beverage asked for received the layered family recipe and soon introduced Applejack to the Virginia colony seventeen sixty this is before he's general. He's just a just tonight, Tinder, nobody drunk too friendly guy that owns a lot of slaves. You know, George Washington. Now that last part he owned a lot of slaves. Sure, the father of he could not tell a lot. I guess I'll let it must be true. Selected blended and bottled by the Laird company and Scooby Ville New Jersey. Gobi sounds cute, and I've just an industrial area. Gobi? Bella would be good. We do. That's what I wanna go to. So we got a one and a half thousand of dry gin half out to apple Jack, the juice of half, a lemon, which is why I kept that other half of a lemon. I was wondering what you of that. Now. Now, I know one England what I squeezed fresh this afternoon with your eight giveaway squeeze paying white squeezer. I ate the yolk with what did you cook? Did cook it with another egg? Oh, what what other egg? On a related, Ed. Good. Awkward. You don't wanna have to unrelated together, the same Pam, and then two dashes of real pomegranate Grenadine is that real public Grenadine? This is so as Grenadine concentrate syrup, vitamin C and just a kiss of sodium benzoate perfect for Valentine's Day. We should have put that in the communists. Yeah. I mean, some smoke it. So and that's a syrup 'cause I I bought a couple of Grenadines recently. And they seem to have the same consistency is water. Right. Not so much syrup as water. Really? Yeah. Just I dunno just seems like there's no serves always served a thick syrup. Yeah. That's what I thought that the last two bought I bought one. This can't be right. So about another one. Saying the same. I bought the other one because while they're both the same. I might as well have spare and how we seems to me that the more natural. They're advertising it Reynier. It is. Oh, so I'm then. Yeah. I think if you got like nonsense Greenwich nice thick real stuff. It's almost like pomegranate, juice. Pomegranate, juice. Really? Yeah. It's for the flavor, right? Isn't that what it's for like just color? I south that it's color, and I think sometimes it's sweetness syrup probably sweeter than wine. Definitely. Three. Sweeter than one Sweden. Awful. So all right. Oh, maybe here the show. Oh, you're using in the show. Let's still up in the air. I am surf right now. I am kind of by kind. I mean, not very good this shift, and they hit not the show. I don't know they they have a sort of singing along with famous tenors, which is a really bad idea by singing along. Somebody wasn't very good right price on good. Sure. Like if I was sick. And you're saying on Fred, he's good. They shouldn't have other guy sing at all. He's or full. Yeah. And I'm standing next to a lady person who sings and. And I were off to start stage. Well, this is the pick of the neck and see here, right? There's the Applejack hit the bottom. I said, I'm not a senior. I don't even. I don't know. I can only defy hear somebody else. Sing I can sort of across some of that noise. All right. Yeah. That was always a danger right to try to sing harmony. But you single on of the person do Senate next to. That's of. Yeah. Well, I think the three tenors list show sort of laugh, they did say three three famous singer ten famous might be tender was like old hut is but it's a play. So there's there's three tenders in this Trump right during customer, you have three tenders. Together. They're not Arman. I know they're all the same. I guess let's cut train in the cockpit. Wait, let put in there now. And ain't wait. There's no anything. John Jack Lemmon and a little bit of pomegranate, Grenadine go I had to grade don't do always stick with the pomegranate gonna do. To make a lot of good sense there. This is the Viking brand. I tell you the Norse, nor snow pomegranates. Huge pomegranate feels it can say that him. Oh. Deal. I just dramatic pause. I'm gonna shake this today. Go for. Thinking. In previous. Pep that in there, get a professional shaky recording. Yeah. All right. So what have you done there you shake? I did I went and a half ounce of dry gin a half ounce, Applejack, juice, half them and white and to dash is real Rimini. And in fact, because the guide I'm gonna shake it a bit more because that's when it comes all the. Early clusters the whole reason and the most feel and the mouth field because it's gross. Yes. All right, gentlemen. Like this. Now this now if color we were looking for the first one, yes, pink, and lovely the secret. Cocktail. So we can this is what sends men and women running away. Because it's a frothy though. Bradley. This would be a perfect Valentine's Day, cocktail it is and you should make. I mean, you really you should we see that a lot. Almost every episode mainly because a lot of great grace. But this one. For because you made a just leather night bunch for it from looks like invoked for it for for flavor. If you get yourself. Apple jacks. Hopefully, you you live within an hour's drive of Applejack Scooby Ville still be New Jersey. All right now this calls for a lovely photo. Yeah. Who's going to do that? Oh, guys. Hopefully, Fred of the I get this nice. Mr video. Your captain video. Oh, there you go and you finish this trend. Excellent. Can I get you anything else? And I felt. Just the Bill. Okay. Big. Yeah. That looks great. That's in fact, every every Valentine's Day, we should just make this drink again. I'm up for that. She like crazy angles. I do not like the crazy angles. So just about to say you. Stop doing the crazy. I like the idea the crazy animals sometimes I don't like sometimes they're so crazy Batman. I just I just like to any like that whenever I can on a lot of people come up to me on the street, and they say what's wrong with you. But. On another. They'll say why the crazy angles on the on the on the website. And I say, well, sometimes the pictures are blurry and only the clear one is crazy angle one. That's true. There's a lot of truth in what you say. Oh, wasn't what I was going to say that I was gonna say a lot of people say I like your podcast because it's a lot like the old Batman sixty. Now. That grave-looking drink told how that is the right amount of foam on the top the Athol doesn't look like scramble as like you make you might think. No. That's a sip of this fellas. And I was on just going to watch. And look here's Dave's face. That's what he does. I like it. Yeah. As he's not in his head the thing. I would actually go for the secret of the communist. Well, what would I what would you do though if I told you the real name of the secret content, streaming what is the real name the real name of the secret? Cocktail is the pink lady. Oh my God. I hate this content onto the words. So we're xactly Syria. You're pretty been completely emasculated by having our year. Right. But you rejoice more history. I would love some history just a side of history. If so the pink leak eat the exact ingredients with pink lady vary, but all of the use of gin Grenadine and egg wake in its most basic form, the pink lady consists of just these three ingredients. According to the Royal cafe cocktail book and making thirty seven made with a glass of gin tablespoon of Grenadine and the white of one egg shaken string into glass now, lemon juice is added to the basic form as well. In that case, the pink lady is identical to the clover club. Cocktail some authors argue that the real or original pink lady differs from the clover club by adding Applejack to the mix which provides the big lady with its own distinct flavor and the greater bartender. Jack Townsend rather condescendingly speculated Zinke, fifty one publication the bartender's book that the very non threatening appearance of the pink lady may have appealed to women who did not have much experience with alkyl. Listen to this. And it said that one point the pink lady ended up on esquire's list of the ten worst cocktails, really. But I find it quite pleasant. Right. The hell with you. Jack. I made it with them. I've got a bottle of bottled egg white. And it said it would just preserve some sugar syrup. So it's sweet it in this one. But yeah, I mean, there's still a bit of tartness certainly not as as the communist. No, not talk to balancing that lead. In the equator is always the cats cooled while sure full of team. This if you were on like Kito diet for you. Yes. I wanna. To try to Kuba cloth now, but I guess the clover club is you're saying the same except doesn't have Applejack. Right. And that's what he says here like this. I says men and now most women would not be dead ordering our little secret cocktail, the original pink, lady all the lady did compared to the clover. Club was to ask some Applejack which made the drink immeasurably, tastier, but not one quit sweeter. It was also just a tab stronger and the two cocktails were equally pink a says. Now, you tell me who was smarter. The guys the dolls jury is in the women win. So make this drink correctly for all your friends, but don't tell them the name of the drink until after they've tasted it because it's tart, but it's still balanced outside the place flavors kind of play. Well, it's the granting that gives the the soft sweetness that you need. To see. I mean, the Grenadines really that apparent to me, but let it's just the sugar from the Greenwich because I don't think you did. But nothing they're already at any flavor off of no just a couple of ashes was on called for it. So I didn't want. I didn't wanna get in trouble. I haven't done a sloppy because of his second cocktail night. The first one was three ounces and the clover club bar in Brooklyn where we didn't go nice. Yeah. Next time, but you can go there and says he says the best place to order, either, the clover club or the secret cocktail, how is at the clover club bar in Brooklyn, New York, the brain child of one of the greatest visionaries of the bar, Julie Reiner. And so this is interesting. You've wanted to do secret cocktail for some time. And so this here on our land lep Assode is which comes true, we have four more episodes. No, never go. Yeah. Not interesting. I look forward to one day try and this tale with my bookmark says three quarters of an ounce of apple Jack. What was the what did the recipe? Call for half an ounce of Applejack Applejack. Oh, you up. Up up the jet. You gave my lady of the pink lady and said. Really crazy. But I would think but you didn't make the Mr., yuck. Face notching to meet Mr. yacht phase. So a little simple serpent that make change the balance of it, especially with more pleasant with. Yeah. She likes it on the sweeter side, I expected this to be sweeter at into this is not a sweet drink. Really if you think sweet drinks are, ladies drinks. And I don't 'cause I like everything this is this them not which is why you have a problem. Not a problem. Shut up. You do it. You're meeting her meeting. I'll start without me. Don't you worry? They always have we made a boulevard gay. I think we did. I have Fritz handy list. I don't have the list handy. Just looking at the picture it claims to also be RAB. So. You know, people say that drinks red lead seems like it's probably about fifty percent now on. We live look at that. I mean, it's night day. Capitalism and communism it. Certainly grow communist is that are you just being silly now. Yes. Accepted the type of orange would make a big difference. I think because the orange juice. I think this play big part of that. Well, the interesting thing, and this would not happen to our listeners. Would not because they're smart. There's a couple of issues with the ingredients in this drink let our snick. As bad as that. But we did a recipe a while ago the called for some orange as a garnish right to peel, and that's that same Orne. I got. I got. Oh, but I did as I said, I tasted the new. So it was born shoes. But if it was commercially store bought ones juice or a fresher orange with there have been a difference. But it was still very refreshing. But you've been a very for mortgages, right? Some something to get an origin say. And then the cherry brandy is also loose cannon. Because it's only twenty four percent has not been stored in the fridge. So there's a chance that it's flavor. Profile isn't one hundred percent cherry. Okay. Which is why I wish I still have the chair of TC. Well, the next time. Let me know I got some cherry hearing laughed because it's to me. It's a staple. It's like bread. It is like breath out of cheer. You're hearing and bearskin while it was funny because I I almost almost asked if you did have cherry hearing. But when I was texting with old Dave coin here. He said no calls for cherry. Brandy doesn't im- brackets said Ted use Sherry. Cherry. Brandy ish tonight. Now that had the arson. Tired? No hoisted by. I was at by. I think it is on your right? Yeah. I mean when you get hoisted on the Petar, nobody likes now. But I think it is wasted by your own petard or Luc Picard don't get voices by Trump card. The worst. The worst of me out of. He's on his show yet. Dave, and I were talking about it. Then you heard coming up in the fall, no title yet. But he's he's busy co producing and co writing and he's young Picard is somebody's like a single dad is nag reason the couple of girls sheriff's house with Bob sagging and the on steam, oh, rents a little winery gonna be just horrible. So yes. So nobody knows he's not in Starfleet. Is that a star out of Starfleet, boom. Well, he's secretly quite elderly. Don't does. Because I always think of John Lewis Picard as the one from the eighties and the nineties, but that was several years ago. It was really he was probably in this forty nine. This is this record in two thousand ten so whatever you're listening. It's he's probably even older now now, so he will Bill in fact, they've had a funny idea where it was actually more of that his life when he was on that when he he was pulled into the that satellite thing, and you lived a life of that dying planet. With. But that'd be pretty that was the middle. When he finally accepted that lived with this woman. Starship thing was all. Screw. Maybe that's the story. Jonathan Frakes is involved. Okay. I know he's evolved because he won't talk about it. Oh, 'cause I can't talk about it. When they asked me visit all promise Harry Truman, he wouldn't say thing. Well, he's a direct you probably directs. Maybe he's done that two three of the the new series discovery. Plus the Orrville plus the orbital crossover downs. He just loves science, fiction and the paycheck. He. Cook for money. Yeah. The funder birds thing didn't go this well as he'd hoped I don't think whatever reason I don't know what that means. He directed. The Thunderbirds movie that they have Lucy. That's how badly did. Did it actually come out or whether it direct to video came out? And I even I haven't seen it. I was a huge diverts from Esa. Can't now for our listeners. Oh, yeah. You might be Merican. This is the super super marination kind of. Yes. That's right. I found creepy. Yes. They are very your eight. Couldn't get enough of them now year. Creepy like Joe ninety because they are all blinking is there. All just like people just like people. Yeah. But but not people. But that was on the United States was not well as big by the Andersons and England, right? I mean, they may have in the same way that they saw Wendy ten years later, otherwise fireball XL five sulfide now that was on the supercar supercar. Thank. I think the rest of meeting our American friend Joe ninety captain scarlet. Yeah. It was like a thriving industry super Marion and Jimmy in for like twenty years. I think they had some something else that you can before supercar. But I remember and I've seen a sketch with Peter Cook and Dudley Moore strings attached revival. I think that would be really we should put linked to that to that on YouTube with the end of our episode and then in more recent years the. The south park, boys. Dead super troopers are super something. Right. That's right. They did a super Mary nation, basically. And is it was really hard because they get all tangled up. That you're working mistreating reasonable striker professionals to do that. I think maybe they did. But even still no professionals of the Anderson family or two of them. Oh that was that was your strength. You had to the magnificent that have been doing for for twenty five years. I also ended up like they probably are dead. I think they made them have sex and stuff too. So that's the Mary that should not that's going to complicate things. No matter. What exactly I mean? Muppets can do it because we only have. Super marination wave of the future. And so the Jonathan Frakes project was super marionnettes again. Or was it knows people, and they're even worse. Yeah. There weren't difficult to control. Oh, sure. You've you streams are bad. Now must not have been released in Canada Elia or locally because he would have gone out opening night. And see no his did already gun sort of the reviews were tepid. Typically, I say you can't go by reviews. And I know that the passion thing and you love it. No matter how bad it. I know. I just I just I just couldn't you're gonna do it. All I'm going to do it. See you should have done it. Now, I feel bad. That's what I'm here for. Or if you're going to ask would I order this again think I would. Think I would order right twice one night. Well, no, maybe not twice one signature drink. Yeah. I know you because you're such a pink lady. Davis knows the ongoing. Order at has the secret tight secret. Cocktail ideal right now. You did here. We don't have Applejack. Don't even try what who make it have. Just had the foam. Yeah. That's where all the flavor is your pro turning get tired of get the phone lips and should be served with tiny straw, or a little creature that kicks it out of your mouth little dainty up because see monkey see monkey maybe shrew assure with a diving. Born chicken. Chicken. Let's. Yes. I haven't had the streets Slayton in that. We had secret com peak? Ladies pickler got chase her everybody at home should make a pink lady because the clear winner tonight. I think so I mean just the sugar to taste if you don't like it. A little tart don't throw it out. Everyday do. Thank don't throw. What does that a little sugar sugar? You got some simple serpent the fridge. If you're making these ranks, you must have simple, sir. And if you don't it takes time minutes, no sugar and water to jump off. Like me. I learned to do it. She said I have to it's the now she's just turned around. She made another gallon of simple services. Just it's like a bottle of stuff. Yeah. Cottage industry. I have the tax people come back to your. Jeep proof. People have simple syrup there called humming. Birds. She also makes it for hummingbirds. Yeah. Little tiny bottles because they there they can only carry so much. That's but if it was a European. The Europeans barrows spare hours Starling Starling started here. Yeah. Yes, coconuts. Yeah. Grasp husk. What are you looking to me looking at York as looking a deal I'm supposed to that your turn? Flynn hemp. So join here these two knuckleheads you're supposed to joint in the bowl. The full Monty python reference? I was going to bring up the fact last podcasts you kind of threw down the gauntlet saying if we don't get thirty comments bli-, that's it. We're done. I want that gun. Look back. Throwing it all over the place. It's chipped. So good to you, so useless ceremony causing damage and the godless still down. Is it people can still save this podcast? We had somebody named fan wrote in. Which I appreciate it. Bob wrote in your uncle, Bob. I just Bob, but somebody took the time to leave the comment, and then Hayden the Kiwi listener who who I assume is actually in New Zealand. Yeah. Perhaps could be someone that doesn't live in New Zealand, but they're still they're still Kiwi. But I think he's in New Zealand. Let's go because of the time zone. Yeah. He sounded like it was tomorrow four hours behind us signed up for a newsletter. He signed up to our newsletter which will be coming out fairly good first newsletter. Third third. One's. What's in the newsletter? So people know what they're can't. We have an old get together little picnic. No. Newsletter. Company. Didn't it? And this is different one. This is this got it. You signed up. I thought Fred. Hi, fi friend. What's on the third one Twenty-one? What's coming? You. Don't want to say they should have a room. But, but anyway, our listener Hayden signed up the newsletter left lovely comment said I like the show, and I don't want it to go away. And so we did a ceremonial hacker. At the beginning of the show. A rugby fan is he I don't know. Cocktail fan. That's all anybody. I've talked to from New Zealand this. And I've talked to a few is that they are fantastic friendly lovely people. And they all love everything that they all love, which is the Maori All Blacks. Flight in the Concorde. They insist that you see what we did in the shadows. What we do in the shadows. They want you to see the layer of willed people. I don't know. I I it's some other the movie they're funny. There's a new movie coming out on Netflix, Reynold, breaker uppers or something people and everybody in New Zealand loves all of the same stuff. And they want you to love it list. Those movies also have Hillary is really is. This should be touting him. They should talk him up. Now. I don't know how they feel about the Lord of the rings. How do you feel? I think they feel pretty good about it. Because a lot of people go there and say where did you film the Lord of the rings, right but just by air? But when you get enough of that got enough without too much. Maybe just the right about that much. But they get a lot of there was a story that I think I heard about a New Zealander or somebody visiting New Zealand from Canada joke. No joke. Okay. It's what how nice they are. They had gone down to the waterfront area. Maybe they were fishing. I forget there was a guy fishing anyway, New Zealander, and they couldn't get their rental car started or something and he said, oh, Katie started. Oh, here you guys take my car going to town straighten it out with the rental people. I'm going to be fishing anyway. And they were like, we can't take your car. And he said, yeah. Take my car. We're going to go. Island. I'm not using that. So they were okay. And of course, they took it into town and beat the shit out of. Trani was out. Got the rental car the came back together in the two cars, and then took in the car away. But they were there. And there was another story about somebody that was filming in New Zealand and said the people in New Zealand are so nice. This is an American. I think it was a matter. I know who it is. But it does matter. I forget his name. And he said that if you go into the store and somebody in New Zealand says to you how you doing. They really wanna know how you doing. No. They don't want you to go. Thanks, and you know, like. Elaborate, and what are you doing later on? And then they wanna plans for the day sailing what we're just visiting where are you going to go? They want to know they're friendly. They're ready to talk people. Think Canadians are Canadians are awful Zealanders down there. The nice ones. Yes. Hence, he left the comment. Don't we got three comments out of the thirty five that we've requested? Don't keep your letters come in folks. So when I was in university that was a pass. Community college. We did have a comment directly for you. Chase on our. Let's we got Facebook. Instagram, we've got YouTube YouTube. Website. Yeah. The website. We got four places people could lead congas. They can just go crazy. Leifer Jason after put the video of us or making the French kiss familiar with a certain Holly, KOMO I am familiar with how come she sponsored one of our episodes the waiting for that check go after watching the video of you making the French kiss. She said I would die of thirst waiting for you to make me. That kind of comment. That takes away one of the three council. Try though holidays. Now, there you go. She does not like a chill drink apparently make a nice work Zere. Where's the ice? You don't have time for Holly. Bottle funnel. To TV of the restaurant that warm glass, MARTINI gloves. They go. But. But. Totally five bucks. Still order the weirdest drink on the menu. I don't think I did you work here. Martinis. Here's your glove. Here's the MARTINI vodka MARTINI. That's right. No, it's Sivota room temperature. It's just a mustard. Comments coming in. But keep your comments. Stop to WWW dot gentlemen of elegantly dot com. Just the blog post by the recipes. Are you can listen to the show, and you listen to the show right there? Pithy comments. Well, they're not as pithy of it used to be really was that. I got. Brad. Wow. But still now there's going to be links to think there may be links end in the end of last episode. I put that full version of the song on their west nice. I'm only practically listen next week. I was the whole episode then sewed because it's coming up pretty quick. If you're listening to it, obviously. That's right. If you're listening to this right now. You don't have to wait any longer. Your join it now time travel so confusing. I know you can't mess with the whole continuum. In the future. My in the past. I can't tell me more judging by how you're dressed what. Without doubt, the future or the task before we wind up. Did you wanna share your uncle story, Carlo communists of come? Yeah. Yes. I don. I still have he'll remain. Nameless. Gives you. And I'm going to get parts of the story. Ron until I apologize and comment. Comment a bunch of uncles that will correct you tonight, but he had a table top soccer league. It was a little. Though, a small foosball one of them Chinese soldiers. Nope. It's like I believe that the table has little indents in it and you hit a button, and it kind of kicks it from indent to indent. I think is how I might be wrong. It might be more like the hockey tables. Okay. Where there was a swing. But I for some reason I don't think that it's a special. Know Bill soccer table games. You'll find the one that. Yeah. My uncle added. That's not the important part of that wanted to figure out how that works. The important part of the story was that everybody chose eighteen to be and my uncle really liked the uniforms of the east German team. Sure, they're flashing. They were flashy. I don't know what they look like in. This was a long time ago. Now, this is the eighties MEC when east Germany was around little black. They might have been the other one black using an awful lot about. You're going to get a little visit from somebody in the future too. So he everybody was able to get jerseys for themselves if they were more. Easier to get and so on coll-. Well, what the heck he wrote a letter to the German soccer people that I think he'd probably said I we have a little funny league. We all get together onto the nights and play we all jerseys Israeli way, I can buy jersey of your team. So that I can wear the jersey of the German team. And so he got package in the mail. Got a jersey. They got an autograph photo with a team out. You got the ultimate fan Pacquiao Germans. And then a couple of days later, he got a visit from the secret police of Candida. Oh, yeah. Who are interested in as to why he was ready to these terms. Like that. They they were just concerned able to get a passport. Now, you can get a passport explained that the the this way. Why did you want this because we play this soccer team, namely showed them again? And he also made a little stats sheet that everybody got so they can keep up with that. And the one guy said as he sort of thumb the pages what's the run on this? And he said, I don't know seven. Like, he a stripping communist pamphlet. Turn turnover back Zobel Karl Marx. Our coders. Wow. He was kind of impressed number one that the scene somehow intervened on his back, and yes, they're able to come in that fast. But they were sure that there was nothing the ferry going on. And they got a nice jersey out of the deal. And then they've got a great story. That's right. And then years later, the story gets better because I don't know if you know, this workout I hear the at least in its old for its national form of the Germany's they fly him one country. History books out of that's the happy ending happy ending. So they're winding up this war. This more. My uncle gets a call from the east German guy. Right. The coach not the coach must have been like the lira guy. The consulate though, VO constantly maybe he was involved. That's why the story is great story is still pretty good. But he says, well, we're closing up shop the country don't exist. No more. We're going to be going back to Germany. I guess we're going to call. And the rest of the uniform. Right. His strap you. Thirty complete outfits. He came for a visit. Oh, maybe he was the maybe was in Ottawa. Okay. I don't know. He was a high out guy came with a guy that was. His handler. Yeah. More more east German secret police Russian secret police than eve because Ladimir Amir. Now, but they had a nice visit and a tour around Vancouver. And then they went away and then a couple of days later go visit. Right. Do you? Remember? That was fifteen years ago separated fine going there, not anybody anyway care. Communist. Wow. With you're young. This associated with them could could cause problem. I guess not. Maybe I'm going to edit this. Yeah. Guy some guy used to rent zone. Uncle Sam was Mike. Yeah. Mike who's this Mike around by all of my soccer board? Yeah. Yeah. For maybe. So then you call. Communist other ones too. But not for today. Not for today. People have to send us comments. If they want more stories these things are free. And even at that. I'm not be allowed to give out overly might be able to get allowed for the change the names, I've not using any. That's right. You should be fighting ship. If you weren't detective, you can probably like uncle do. I have but sometime in like, a friend of your father klutz. That's who this was. Yeah, you're right. When you say, I'm called the guy that came by. They said, this is your uncle. Yeah. This is all Sal, uncle, Sal uncle south. Yeah. Right. That's not really your blood. Family friend that we were closed to the mill. Yeah. Not even that long. No, no there for two weeks. And then he got a job at the mill. Yeah. I'm trying to picture of the soccer board. The look how many bills to be white rock. I know there's at least one pronounced milliliters. Don't go. Well, this has been a wonderful after sound this. There's always puts. Comedy, doesn't it? And so wonderful that it wouldn't be hard listening to it to go to www gentlemen, alchemy dot com, and this leave a comment says I liked the show don't want it to go away. If you drink if you make a flavor, maybe don't know drinks. How am I gonna know? Great. I'm just starting out kind of flavor to you like see I don't like something with cinnamon or liquorice. We'll we'll work with that. Sure. Spruce spruce the show's. Great. But it needs more spruce. Maybe we gotta find a drink that has the Kiwi end for our new-zealand listeners. And then we'll get more. This is the thing. Interesting. Yes, you bring that up. I'm sure it is fractionation coversation. Let's they had. They do they have bars in New Zealand. Oh, they got another but bars New Zealand, you think they may cop pills. They're all cocktails just the eighties goes back further. I'll probably even before the company country went bankrupt. I'm just thinking because you think now you look at the history of cocktails here these books, nobody talks about Kiwi juice. Because there wasn't any. But in New Zealand, right? They probably have cocktails that are specific Zealand with nappy, Greg. Glad would be great. All right Aidan post post victim key cotton. I don't know that they had prohibition there. I don't know the the history news. Wikipedia right away. The truth get the facts straight. But clearly they were making drinks there. Australia's well. And we just don't hear you talk about the books and everything they talk about America. They don't talk of Canada, really all but they America and France and England, and that's where the cocktails were mainly the US. But I'm sure at some point they're making mixed drinks, you new-zealand with local agreements, and that we would probably not be able to replicate here. Except for juice because you can try anywhere you go anywhere. You got they handle to you. Welcome to treat it as. I was I was going to say something about that. But I'm afraid to even grow there anymore Costa Rica, where all the Kiwis come from ridiculous stupid things happen. We've come from South America. The probably also have the news. They probably do probably better. Like when Dave has pineapple in Hawaii. The only white pineapple is sentencing Costa Rica goes to the Kiwis from New Zealand or as big as a Guinea pig. Guinea pigs are as big as. Pine out there. But apple it'll get pineapples IRS. You just a small. Wonderful place. Now, they're just loaded with juice, even go near Kiwi. New Zealand juiston seed everywhere that sounds great. I refreshed sticky. I always I'm always slightly sticky. Shirt off his back because he's this car. Yeah. Their money shirt. Is a car the shirts in the that to about you. Look a little sweaty trying to clean shirt in their put that on. Time to be going to the sign to the cocktail slayer the week lent. You're gonna give us a full report. Try how do my best to never looked at my reports from pass ones because they're bearing? Well, that's right pace, you drinking. I do for just hates pace. That guy I'm going to try and pose some stuff, which I think I've done in the past like a post them in of we'll figure it out doing a live stream off your own livestream. 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Boot tell me about elitists, and Dave is the cutest Buddhist. And I am joining sunshine little journey. Johnny. The day of look, I guess so it's time for us to wrap up this episode. Can you tell I because I gotta go home. And I gotta go. But thank you for the people that do listening. Thank you for your comments that you did leave. Faith to know that we're not showed into the darkness. Yeah. That makes things. Interesting. Check out our fellow podcasters. But only the people that I said my cousin Dave just sticky. That's the only run else. Forget about and his Tinton podcast in a March for this podcast, and the Beatles podcast mabley my cousin had four podcasts. Let's not job a job to what is it security? It's puck. Thirsty. Does he's got a job. He's aware up situation. Oh, so he's got east time to make like he's a Madam in a warehouse and my saying that right? I'll check this belly. I think you're close. Beatles. Movie coming soon, new Beatles? Another Beatles movie by superior Jackson harder harder days night last night out documentary. Okay. But what are they gonna tell us? Now, let's supposedly some never before seen footage from January nineteen sixty-nine ever been released just mentioned that month like the one hour film never before released. I don't know. Maybe maybe we'd have to check with you know, who are beetles mentor. That's right or perhaps our news unit connection can give us a Peter Jackson angle. He's got the insight on Peter. But yeah, stay tuned. Okay. Probably go see it. Peter Jackson, some World War One film out right now. Yes, it was hard to see the hard to see you. It's very clear. Oh, this is what I thought he'd use shitty lenses, but they said, yeah, that's coming suit. We're releasing I need to know that released once they said January. Nineteenth four in the afternoon. A monday. Arthouse cinema somewhere. Yeah. Well here Langley, and I think Richmond but flight. Flight or ten o'clock at night. I think four o'clock in the afternoon at ten at night. So if you really want to see it right coincide when we drain the slurpee machine the theater, it's quiet time. So we're showing more. One footage, but it's been colorized invented sound. They sound alike. I saw the previews I've seen. I mean. It's magic. It's scary. Makes you wanna have a war right now. Just take my tank Reynolds. Fast. Less World War. Lest we let the must be forgetting something. The forgotten something. For the love of game. Remember this for the love of Dame? Yeah. But but yeah. So he's well is it gonna be reenacting a lot of stuff until the digital? Yes. He's playing all four the Beatles. We'll be doing his impersonation Jolan Ringo. The documentary, and it's blessedly them in the studio this hour, and it was okay. I was fine. It was, you know, not ground not raking. But it was very clear. Yeah. It was it did that it was they should not grow old. Oh, they and yet they did a lot of died. Oh, the actually the idea the ones that died get to grow rip-off. Yeah. Whereas off folks, I set it. None of my controversial. Good for you bad for your health. Economy becoming I'll give that down that. But I'm not that's not that's not my I'm not being pled. That's I think that's the point you try to make if you if you're Konomi is is sagging have a war and turn around. Looking for some people? Right. But. The secret is you have a Cup of coffee just before you leave work. Yeah. Or two drinks when you get your. I gotta have the coffee guys the drink. Yeah. When you go out, here's the wrap up when you go out for coffee, or drinks. These people out there that are busting their hump to make sure that you're having a good time tissue are gonna want to be yelled at their fellow human beings for crying out loud. Don't wanna be fellow comrades. Gotta reward the local just because their servers doesn't mean they're your that. That you're serving. 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#2041: Exorcist or Arsonist

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54:38 min | 10 months ago

#2041: Exorcist or Arsonist

"Thursday hello and welcome to Car Talk from national public radio with us. My brother was playing are banjo and changing cause I definitely I thought I think you played a wrong chord. I played to see when I put the little finger down for the boom. Boom. Boom boom and way back to like the tappet brothers and we're broadcasting this week from the International Sports Marketing division here at Car Talk Plaza. I want to test job marketing abilities. I'm going to give you an example here we come down. There are many countries that have sports teams of various kinds and they have to come up with a name which is compelling memorable and all that stuff exactly. Sure. For example In Brussels, they have a team called the brussel sprouts. Of course. Okay, help me out here, you know the capital of Taiwan Taipei wage. Do you think the name of that team is type A type A personalities own know about Amsterdam. I get Yankees man the Amsterdam Yankees. Well, this is I can see I'm not in the group. This is simple Vienna should be the Red Sox the Vienna sausages and the Belgian waffles. Of course, how about the Philippines the capital of Manila, right? The manila envelopes manila folders good and of course Czechoslovakia, that's a simple one check checks in the mail bounces off. Check bouncers. This is a tough one the New Delhi a New Delhi good presents. I'm telling you how long it took me twenty minutes. Oh, by the way, this was sent to us by Toni Coleman from cyberspace off. Let's see what else we have. Oh, yeah Bolivia this you won't get this one. I'll have to help you the balloon Bolivia watch company bought one of those ones know, this is Olivia de Havilland dead. And then we got Prague the capital of Czechoslovakia check one of those checks check one of those checks capitals the Proctor proctologists wage. Not bad. Not good. Well, I'll give you a question about your car or anything else the number 2 khong Is 888 sock that's 880-822-7825. Let's make money coming up with stuff like frogs, huh? Hello. You're on cardstock. Hi, this is Randy and I'm calling from Atlanta Brandy Atlanta Atlanta. That's usually a guy's name Randy. It is usually a guy's name. What's what is your real name? My real name is Randy Moss. And guess how it's spelled o y Marie that's exactly how I wrote it. I did to it w r a n d y. Usual you must admit. No, I agree and you can take it up with my parents and I have no sure that's right now though. So how's everything in Atlanta? Everything is great except for my car. Really? Sorry to hear it. Yes. I'm sad. I have a Honda Civic. It has 120,000 Mi on it and the oil light keeps coming on. Oh, that's too bad it about 6 months with this month. So we finally bring it in and our favorite mechanic left the dealership that we go to so we see whoever's left which was a mistake but the world, you know join the Navy could find him we would just go to him. What's his name Michael Michael there was poor, you know, he's on a boat somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, you got enough money and paid for the boat and he took off he right now. Okay. So Legos gone you bring bring it into the dealer, right? They say we need to replace the distributor for $500. So we do that. And the oil light goes off and everything's great for about two weeks. And then it comes back the light comes back on again. We bring it back in and they say, oh, well, you know what we forgot to replace the gaskets when we did the distributor will do that, but we'll do it for free free free is good. Yeah fries good worked for us. So the light went off for maybe two weeks and then it came back on again. And you know, we kept putting oil in it and it woke. They would stay off for like three days and then it would come back on. So we finally bring it in again. When you put oil in it. Was it down like a sport you would check the dipstick and it would say, you know, I need oil. Yeah, so the light was only on Thursday when you were low on oil the light wasn't lying to us. We needed oil got it but there was never there was no like oil leak there was no, you know oil in our garage or anything like that. Gotcha. So we bring it. In fact they say, okay, it's burning oil and you need to something with the camshaft. You need to replace the camshaft. It's going to cost $1,700, but you really shouldn't do that on a college age. If you're going to do that you may as well go ahead and overhaul the engine that's $3,700. Yeah. Yeah, I gave you the you were being generous wage. Yeah. So here's where we are and I went out and bought a case oil. It's in the trunk. Can I just pour a quart of oil in it once a week and just live my life or well that read will that be a prob? What does your life involve driving the car? Definitely? It does that's Central to the whole decision-making process here. And how far do you drive it a week? Well, actually my wife usually drives it and he travels a lot for work. So he drives a lot who can take my car. So, you know, it could be a local car if we needed to I would do that. Okay, I would do that in which case you might be able to get away with doing nothing. Okay. Yeah, first of all certainly don't want to do the camp even the diagnosis about the camshaft. It's not going to help the problem. The camshaft is not causing it to burn oil. Okay. The thing is burning oil undoubtedly because the Rings are gone. So if you even if you were to spend the $17 you would be three times as disappointed as you were for spending the $500 down there. Yeah, and the distributor got replaced I suspect because it was leaking oil. Okay, the seal was gone and when they put the new one in they probably forgot to put the O-ring on it, which is the the oil seal for the distributor all the home. That comes with it comes with it. I mean they lost someone to take someone took it off the word as a ring getting married that afternoon. What are we know? So we're going to do anything to this. I would certainly rebuilding a fire engine or install a used engine. Okay, that's an option which the dealer wouldn't give you because they don't do that. You said if I go out and buy a case of oil can I go on and live my life? And I think the answer is yes for the next three months. I would say three to six months before something catastrophic happens. Okay, at which time you'll go to the junkyard and you get yourself an engine for $722 and you have very poor Mike Michael Michael but try try keeping keeping the oil of Allah P. You might want to try switching to 2050 motor oil 2050. Okay. Yeah that may help. Oh, we'll try it. Yeah, but certainly don't let your husband drive it those many miles. He drives. Okay, so you're ready. Great. Thank you so much. Bye-bye, bye-bye. 188 car talk or 1-800-273-8255. Hello. You're on Car Talk wage. My name is Connie and I'm in Long Beach California boy, you sound so clear. I do. Yeah, I'm just like coherent and we're not I mean that I mean the connection sounds so clear. It's like you're right in the same room with us. I you know, I think that's possible but and you have such a sweet voice. Well, thank you. So, what's up Connie? Well, I have a car problem after this call. I'm probably going to have a marital problem cool. Yeah and Ty something here loves to make trouble. He's going to make trouble in this one. I'm sure but I'm desperate. All right. I have an 87 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home about five years ago. It initially started idling really high on rainy days. It would run like 20 RPM when you first started it so my husband who happens to be an auto shop teacher wage. Oh and this is why it's going to cut me ugli. I know they I've been threatened if I make this call, but you're starting it up on a rainy day and it was idle really slowly and then room go way up high it would start out high. So it's not really high and it would go for a few minutes and then it would slow down. Yeah. Now at that point, we he changed the throttle position sensor. Oh very good and that fixed it until December this year when it started doing it again. Yeah. He didn't want to mess with it this time. I took it into a Jeep repair shop and they replaced it a second time. Okay. So that was fine until two months later when it started doing it again. Now when I took it back in and and I thought that they were going to say, oh it was defective or something and give me something free month. I ended up paying $300 for a new Idol bypass motor. Now. Here's The Clincher when I handed in my check for $300. He says if it does it again, you better think about getting off. New car and it's just way to the showroom. No kidding. Does it still only happen in the rain know now? It happens inconsistently. Oh good, but it'll go down the page itself. I don't you know, I have the brake on and I'm going down the street, you know, if I turn the motor off and on it'll eventually stopped. Are you stumped? Not yet? No. Temporarily. Yeah. We have your husband online to help us afraid of I think he's he says she's well, I'm going to take a stab go ahead. We need a stab we need one. I think it's the computer the computer. Yeah. Is there a main computer if there is a main oil New Hampshire computer? There is there is a computer and it controls all the functions of all of these things like the idle air control and the idle speed control or the bypass whatever they call it. You're bypassing the computer sends a job. Signal to this bypass valve which can boost the idle speed and it may be that it's sending the wrong signal to these things some of the time. I think the first time that they quote fixed it it was just lucky. I don't really fixed anything. You're going to have trouble explaining all I am and I'm hoping is it time for a commercial break? There is no commercial break and we get off fallback position. So I hope so the computer. Well, well, there is one of the possibility that you may have a bad ground connection someplace in a bed under hood Grand Theft like this much better because all kinds of erratic Behavior like this. So it may be that there should be a place where there are a bunch of ground wires connected to the block of a cylinder head off of your husband if he hasn't already done. So this is a job for your husband. Not the dealer. Okay, take those wires off and clean them all up and maybe run another ground between the firewall for example, and the in the cylinder head, okay. And backgrounds can make all kinds of peculiar behaviors like this and and I I have to slap my wrist. I love not coming up with that. I love this area. But when that isn't it throw a new computer in there, Okay. All righty. All right. Thanks a million. See you say you love your husband. I will talk to me. Okay, bye-bye. 1888 car talk or one 806-8255. Hello. You're on Car Talk. Hi guys, it's Jim Davis calling up from the cart or chemical labs. This is Professor Jim Davis from W. Greatest wage. W w w. Well, I hear you have another question about radiator fluids. Could you bring me up today up to speed so nasty? Yes. I wish I could remember what it was. We received a call from some guy who was travelling in some forsaken place in Utah Canyon lands near around Moab and and the vehicle began off. Overheat and at the direction of his I believe girlfriend. He was required to relieve himself into the radiator to make up for some liquid lost off. For some reason. We don't know and he wanted to know what effect might this have on his cooling system, which is obviously consists of cast-iron aluminum and perhaps even copper and burn rubber hose and ethylene glycol antifreeze and we know Jim yeah that you'd be up to it. Oh, well, I assume knowing you guys that you told him to flush the radiator. Yeah, so he suggested that himself. He told me to flush the radiator so he'd beat us to it on that one. Yeah. Okay. Well anyhow, I guess it's better than nothing but you should be aware. He should be aware that I see water is more corrosive. Either than tap water or distilled water salty. If this is an emergency fix on the road, I guess as I say it's better than nothing, but he ought to yep. The radiator seriously, about and put a fresh supply of of coolant in there. Now. How much salt is in there? The average the average wage? What do you call release releases good. It's it's certainly a percent or so. I haven't actually figured it out. It can vary considerably depending on how hot it is how much it's bed wetting. Yeah, in other words, not sure and traded it could be pretty constant and I believe it was rather hot, which means he had been perspiring a lot and therefore the stuff inside would have been a concentrated. Well, what else do we have in there? Well, mostly sodium chloride, but there are also are other salts and of course there's uric acid. I never brought it a certain amount of that down there, but it's really the saltiness of it. That's the only real concern that and maybe a little bit of smell to that would be a factor and the saltiness would be a problem because it would ionize and therefore set off. A little electrical. Yeah salt water is a conductor of electricity and corrosion is an electrochemical process which is hastened by saltiness. Yep. Thanks corrode more in seawater than in river water. Exactly. That's why if you think we should take the fleet out of the Atlanta to prevent the corrosion. Well, there's another point that occurred to me that's probably worth mentioning and that is if any of your listeners or you guys yourselves find yourself in this situation, I think it's very important to em go into a can or bottle first and then pour it into the radio. Yes in is the stream of salty water is an excellent conductor of electricity and should the stream accidentally be misdirected over to the battery case. You could get quite a jolt from don't don't need to go any further wage. No need to go us further. Oh my God. I think your guy should clean the radiator out as soon as he gets the chance. Well Jim, thank you could always talk to the gym for your very capable analysis of complex social problem. You are most welcome to join. You're not Consulting to us you how do we pay you enough that it doesn't matter they do but I am certainly worth what you pay me. We've always felt that way Jim. Okay. All right, look it off. I have to ask it. Did you forget last week's Puzzler? 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We were hunted by police. We were literally physically hunting and we stand on the Corner Drug Squad pull up everybody or running off new from NPR music listen to louder than a riot. Hi, we're back. You're listening to car talk with us Click and Clack the tappet brothers. And we're here to talk about cars car repair and the answer to last week's Puzzler. And this was a long non Automotive Puzzler and lots of people had sent this in. Yeah, yeah must've appear on some other website and they stole it and probably anyway, here it is. Yeah, she decided it was time to take his motorcycle to work. It had been in the garage all winter and finally the weather had gotten nice. So after a little tinkering he fires it up and off he goes anyways enjoying the beautiful sunshine in the warm air and he comes to an intersection. Did he go through every day but on this day because he's on the bike. He's noticing things. He hadn't, you know, usually noticed and on a building to the right is one of those big signs that displays the time and the temperature. Yeah, it flashes me says gee I guess I'm really late for work. Then the temperature comes up in Fahrenheit and then a few secs His later it comes up in centigrade and he says huh. That's interesting. The digits are exactly reversed. For example, if it had said 31 degrees Fahrenheit when it showed the Centigrade reading it off it said 13. Yeah, right and they can only be reversed if it's a two digit number sure. He says she's I've never seen that before anyway, the light turns green off he goes to work cuz you got to work so late. He decides to stay late and realizes that he he should have listened to the weather forecast because when he comes out of work, it's drizzly and rainy and cold but he gets back with his motorcycle and he's riding home and guess what same at the same intersection and he thinks what are the chances? I'd ever see that happen again while certainly not going to happen now because it's a lot cooler than it was this morning when the sun was so yeah. He sees the temperature in Fahrenheit and then the temperature in Centigrade. And again, it's the digits reversed. Yeah out what are the chances of that? So the question is what was the temperature in the morning when he went to work? And what was the temperature when he went home and we'll accept the answer any of the fahrenheit cuz we know the conversion man now, I don't know if there's an algebraic way to solve this, but I know how I solved it. I put the two tomorrow and it it turns out that in the morning when the sun was out and it was balmy. It was twenty-eight degrees Celsius, which is 82 degrees Fahrenheit. Yeah, and assuming that the whatever algorithm the thing is using is rounding off to the closest number, you know, and it is and at night when he came home it was drizzly and rainy and ugly. It was 16 degrees and 61 degrees cool, huh? And and you have it only worked for em. It well, I did the math. Yeah, it only works with the number was told. Well, that's my question. Well, I think these are the only two has to be between 50 and 99 Fahrenheit wage below fifty, you know this ten degrees Centigrade, right? So you can't reverse the digits if it's nine degrees centigrade is nothing to reverse right? So between 50 and 99, which is the only possible range here. These are the only temperatures in my humble opinion where they reversed and just thinking with that man, you know, I've never been the only time I was sure of something wrong with the mangoes. Anyway, who's our winner. Where is Colleen Novak? She's Kim's daughter. Yes from Atlanta Georgia and for having her answer select random from among all the correct answers that we got clean will get as you know, a $25 gift certificate to the Shameless Commerce Division of Car Talk. Com and with that gift certificate she can get a copy. CD can't talk cartoons the car talk compendium of disrespectful car songs. Wow, and what might you find on that collection? Well, here's a couple of titles off my car's going under the wrench. That's a song about a heap. It's a rental that's a song about a car that becomes a heap over the course of a weekend and the duct tape Madrigal and C Majors. That's about Helicon remains. You got the idea, you know, we'll have a brand new Puzzler coming up in the third half. Yes. Yes the third half so stay tuned for that. I mean time. Our number is 888 car talked. It's 888 275, huh? This is Joe from Boise. How you doing Joan? She's we haven't had a call from Boise in months. Really David's and last week. We had one. All right, we haven't even in a week. What's going on Joe? I have a 1990 Dodge Journey. Colt is my daughter drives in it pops out a fourth gear when you're going along. Oh man, my buddy says that whole transmission is going and I say I just need to replace the clutch. Well, he's not he's more right than you. Is this a 90 is this a 4-speed or a 5 or speeds of for Speed? This is this is a Navistar wage is just a plain old garden-variety Colt. Yeah this car cost 8888 when there was $88 a year. Yeah, exactly. I mean this is one of those things that I don't mind it popping out in fourth gear cuz I'm not sure my daughter should be driving in fourth gear. But oh she's a teenager. Yeah. Well if it's dead daughter's car, I'm not going to suggest anything crazy. Yeah, he was going to he was going to suggest bungee cords were involved the two-by-four 24th is down into the right. He's going to just write the two-by-four wage. The radio and the gear yeah, this was the bungee cord attached to the bottom of the seat. You can just see it. It's it's poetry. It's just right. Well, it's popping out of fourth gear not because of the clutch, but because there's something wrong inside the transmission TK and and the synchronizer 4/4 is gone and that's actually popping it out. Okay. Now you can live with it obviously, but you know, if you have a young person driving the car, it's bad enough that they're unsure about everything else that's going on. You don't want her to have to contend with wedging the two-by-four and their total. Yeah. Yeah. She's driving my wife's car now. So and you are driving the cult. Yeah. Well lucky you all rights to buy for has to be 18 and 1/2 inches long then you know, but your buddy I have some experience working on cars. Yeah, we mucked around with this particular car. I'm going to suggest that you go to your local junkyard and you try to find a job. Who's transmission? Oh, okay. And your your body can put this thing up on jack stands in front yard. Of course, of course, of course, you never do it in the back. I was doing the front with a neighbor's can come by and gets home know where they can see when the car falls on top of you. Yeah, you don't know what to be buried in the trees in the back. That's true. I say very often. Yeah, that's that's true. Yeah, but but Jack this thing up for some stands and they did and then give to pull out the two axles remove the shifter linkage take out the starter motor and you're going to pull the whole transmission out and if you buy your a clutch you might as well put a clutch in at the same time. Yeah, but assuming that you find the transmission I would but do that otherwise won't waste your time because it ain't the collections doing it off. But if you going to put a transmission in you might as well put a clutch in it's ready. You cost me an adult beverage now. I know I'm sorry. Let's see a joke. Good luck Bill. Yep. Takes me a call. I know we were going to like to what is it about guys named Joe just ordinary Joes ordinary Joes man. 1882. I've got moved till oh, go ahead. I'll take a nap. All right, wait when you get within 15-20 get to like 15 minutes. You might like this. Actually, I'm trying to figure out who sent it to us. It says it was from Robert Walsh, but then it also says it was from eight other people as well. So who knows was a chain letter? Okay, here we are. I was flying from San Francisco to Los Angeles by the time we took off there had been a 45-minute delay and everybody on board was not happy course unexpectedly. We have to make a stop in Sacramento on the way that might I just interject here that if this were an Amtrak train, yeah a 45-minute delay funny. They don't even count that. Also. I want to know how come you again up in Sacramento if you're flying from San Francisco to LA, but that's been side the brakes off. Wrote it down the flight attendant explained it would be another 45 minute delay. If we wanted to get off the plane. We could reboard in 30 minutes everyone got off the plane except one gentleman who was Blind Faith. I noticed him as I walked by and his seeing eye dog lay quietly underneath the seats front of him. Hm, I could also tell that he had flown this very flight before because the pilot approached him and call him by name said Keith. We're in Sacramento for almost an hour. Would you like to get off and stretch your legs? Keep says? No, thanks, but maybe my dog would like to stretch it does going to take a bath. So picture this everyone in the gate area comes to a complete quiet standstill when they look up and see the pilot walking off the plane with a cigarette and he's wearing sunglasses people scattered. Not only when they're trying to change planes they were trying to change. Airlines I mean he maybe didn't even think of the effect that that could have. I'm sure he figured it out with an above it second thought he lost his wings. I mean I just wonder is there an analogy here in the automotive field? So to speak like when you woke people bring their cars and you say eagle now remember my brother loves mail. So I have got something he can read preferably something with pictures. I sent it to him at good loving spot and run that runs. Good male division Car Talk Plaza box 3500 have it Square Cambridge Our Fair City 02238 or of course, you can email him stuff from cartalk.com. If you'd like to call us. You can call one eight eight car talk. That's correct. 8227 8255 hello, you're on car talk? Hello? Hi. Hey. Hey, what are y'all doing? Not much. What are you doing? I'm calling to find out if you guys know the number of a good Exorcist for my car. Yes, we do. My sister is in that business. What timezone are you in where in the central time zone Central you're calling from Chicago now, I'm calling from Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas. Yeah, what's your name? My name is Robin Robin from Texas. Yeah, what part north-south? Oh, I'm in on the beautiful shores of Lake Tawakoni. We're kind of like Northeast. There's a lake in Texas. Oh, Texas thousands of lives of like no kidding way. That's why it's called the land of lakes. You know, that's not it off isn't there another land of the that's the butter butter? So you might Exorcist what's kind of a car is it? Oh man. I got a 89 Volkswagen Fox Club. Oh, you might you don't need an exorcist you needed our suggest exactly. I don't get me wrong. I love this car know you can't that's not a catalogue. You may loves you may love it. We will stipulate that. Yeah, he loved it. All right. So what's the deal? Tell us the entire story with all the Gory details leave nothing out. All right, cuz we've got nothing but time. Okay great job about a month ago right about a month ago. And it's it's when you said about a month ago you pick up from there. The whole problem is it's like it goes like one week intervals. It's an intermittent problem in like one week intervals. Yeah. I'm ready. I love these the left right so I get the car home and I said to my husband there's something wrong with this car go out and drink so he goes out and drive it and comes back as there's nothing wrong with the car something. Okay, what must have just been the road or it was pulling to the left is that the left is 4.2 left very subtly cycle about a week. And I was going to one of my customer accounts and all of a sudden this car starts like I mean like the wheels like jerking to the left. Yeah, I pointed the Firestone and they look at it and the guy said your strut mount is messed up. So he says you need to have this left strut mount replaced. So I call my mechanic and I said, you know, you think I can get it home and he says well he says, you know just drive off so it's about an hour and that's the whole other thing behind the never really does this unless I've been driving for at least an hour. So get it back down to him. I tell Harold everything that's going on. So he took the thing on let me guess. Yeah doesn't fix. It doesn't fix it about a week later. It starts doing it again, right? Yeah, so I took it back in to my mechanic off his theory was yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the CV axle is heating up and doing something weird cuz there's not enough lubricant in there or I have a separated tread that doesn't really wage. Two separate until the tire gets caught on like they switched my tires. Excellent. Okay, front and back and I wouldn't had a front end alignment. Oh, yeah, took it back to where I bought the tires. I told the guys the same thing. Well, it hasn't done it yet the pre-emptive strike then okay. My question to you is my mechanic said he could inject some grease off to the CV boot, but he hates to do that because then it will break the seal and therefore mess up the Integrity but giving you a CV joint a cortisone shot. Okay. What were you guys suggest that I do not like any of these theories? Well, I do I do like the CV joint Theory I liked it, but I don't like it any more. I like it, but I wouldn't have him screw anything in there. I haven't actually maybe even take the axle out which doesn't take that long. Okay in a half an hour have the thing out on the bench. You can tell if either of the joints is is bound up. Okay, and if either one is bound up then it would be the equivalent it would feel like you had the brake on them that left front wheel. That's what it feels like home. Things but explained to our techs got to eat up cuz it expand gotta get hot friction heat friction. Yeah. I like it. I don't like it. I like if you ever seen a CV joint do that in all your thousands of years of experience your millions of miles of experience with CV joints. Have you ever ever heard of a CV joint that went for an hour and suddenly started dragging? Well, not really if I wasn't here to keep you honest what would happen? No, but this is not my brother doesn't understand science. What a minute you've gotta understand that. This is what this is what's called a breakthrough. I mean if it weren't for this but one of the things that happened a long time in the mid wheelie still hunting wild boar with sticks she is what you do most time. You gotta have a fix. Have you drive it around and get the thing to do you get it at home? Okay, and go into the guy go to Harold haven't brought up on the lift and see if one of the wheels is harder to turn than the other. Okay. Well, I think he's already done now and he's a certain and he feels that it's the axle still need the CV joint. That's that's not having throw another one in there put another see the whole axle. Yeah, so you think a CV axle then? Well CV joint off of the axle, but they'll replace the entire axle. Okay. Good luck Robin. Thank you. Good luck is right. Good luck. I'm going to need it. Hi. Have a good day. All right, it's time to take a shower. Right my brother's going to meditate into a new puzzle and just sort of comes to him, you know, or is it like Keel over and bumped my head of the microphone will be back in a minute. I've seen on the side. Were some very fast colors riding the fine with all of that muscle and all that power as if they had something to prove some of them drive like they'll be no tomorrow maybe for somebody's true facts. Maybe that Nexus shooting star in the sky will be any of a little Goodwill Industries gets a rash of donated radios when we say, this is NPR's support for this podcast and the following message come from Harper Collins children's books from New York Times bestselling author Terri libenson creator of the hit m e and Friends graphic novel comes uniquely you and interactive journal for kids. It's packed with fun activities tips for creating your own stories and more the uniquely you Journal celebrates creativity wage. And encourages kids to embrace what makes them unique find the uniquely you journal and Emmy and Friends graphic novels wherever books are sold with the unemployment rate at record highs right now millions of Americans are without health insurance this week on through line. How are Healthcare became tied to our jobs and how a temporary solution turned into an everlasting problem. Listen now to through line from NPR where we go back in time to understand the present. What we're back you're listening to car talk with us Click and Clack the tappet brothers and we're here to discuss cars car repair and the new Puzzler. Yeah. Okay, I can hardly wait wage. All right. Well I decide I realize that I haven't really done any Automotive puzzles for long time because a really good Automotive puzzle. So yeah. Well you have a myth who work for two months off do it. I mean you forget yeah a customer who shall remain nameless called up the other day and said that a brake job. We had done had gone arrived. We had done a brake job on his old Volvo and we had put on new pads and new disc rotors and it was all right for several months and and then dick says oh did I say nameless? He says she's now now when I step on the brakes, he said I get a rumbling and he said in the harder I step on the brakes the worse it is. In fact, I don't really feel it at low speeds or if I step on the brake gently even at high speeds, but if I really lay on to the brakes off I feel that shuttering in the car. Yeah, he says one of those new discs must be warped and we say I doubt it. Hm. Anyway, he brings the car in and we drove it around and sure enough. He's right it is doing is doing the Roman classic symptom a warped discs. Yeah, we put the car up wheels are pretty hefty discos a hefty media Boost Galaxy me bhi dedo cheap little girl. No, no, no nose a serious you go. They get the rejection IHOP. They slap a brake caliper a story Coca-Cola on some of the home. Anyway, we put the dial indicator on it and determine that there's nothing wrong with the disc golf call. Perfect. If you had there would be no Puzzler. That's correct. That's correct. Yeah, but Faith, but and we check all the bushings that because a bad tie rod ends are a ball joints or ball joint roll arm bushing or bad strut mount anything can cause this vibration way check out. Everything we check everything we could find nothing wrong. But to humor him we put four new discs on you. Do not really so we put we put four new discs on figuring that maybe one of our instruments is off a little bit. See we drive the car. Of course what exactly the same thing? Yeah back up on the lift that goes off and hours go by and we have Ralph chained to his toolbox until he figures this out. He's standing there and he's right in the middle of the car. Was he lying down Dono hantho know. He stuck the car the lift. He stated it right smack in the middle of the car. Yeah with wrenches in hand and he's ready to remove something. Yeah, and I say to him. What are you doing? He said this is it. I know what's wrong with it. What's he going to remove and why does it fix it now? If you think you know the answer and you feel like taking a guess mail your answer to Puzzler Tower Car Talk off. Maza box 3500 Harvard Square Cambridge Our Fair City 02238 or you can email us your answer from our website cartalk.com if you'd like to cross the numbers 188. Hello. You're on cardstock. Hi, this is Jim from Winters, California. Jim Peters. Yes, winter package must be a cruel joke. Where were you in Southern California? Well, it gets down to the fifties in the winter. So it's pretty tough. Oh Northern California Northern California. How North York San Francisco in. Oh really way up to Sacramento. Oh, I know you are. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. We're all the earthquake's epicenter earthquake epicenters either right there and think I guess so we're destroyed by earthquakes guess about a hundred years ago. Yeah. Well you got plenty of time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there was only, like every hundred years. There's a big earthquake. Oh, I don't know just too much of a sweat. So what's up? What's up will have a pig. Toyota 4Runner it sounds problem for about two or three years where occasionally, it just won't start. You can't jump start it that doesn't make a difference. It still won't start. However yesterday I discovered that you could go around the ignition system, you know, you go straight to the from the battery to the starter and it starts up a good job. That's excellent and only happens once awhile who taught you how to do the jump to the starter to hyperspace the guys that are local auto parts store Flint. Oh, yeah. I'm yeah, I'm learning how to hotwire cars and everything and did it in all these guys, but why didn't they sell you the piece that you need? Remote start with yeah, what's wrong with her? Most switch? You need to start a relay a starter relay what you may call annoyed you may but I I thought I think it's more likely you need the starter motor you think so. Yeah. Well now I can start it. If I go past the ignition switch and all the other electrical stuff that's on there to the starting wage. It turns over fine. Yeah, I know but but it certainly will find a lot of other times to the words. It doesn't always misbehave when you turn the key and it may be that just jumping right from the stonecutter hot wire to the solenoid wire is is enough to get the thing kicked over. Whereas when you make the electrons Go the whole route through the key and the relay and all that jazz. It's need Tire they get tired and they don't make it and it doesn't energize the solenoid and if the solenoid doesn't get energised the thing won't fire up. Okay. This has a gear reduction starter and these these Stars Famous for having exactly the problem. You describe the way to solve the problem is the next time it won't start have an assistant get in the thing and turn the key while you tap the starter motor with a rock your shoe, you know rock would be good. I don't understand why this start I just want to give it a little yeah, right. So I want to give them a lot of the person is holding the key all the way to crank you give it a shot with the rock or with a small hammer or whatever. It'll fire right up and that'll tell you that the starters NG. Okay, that's technical lingo for no-good low-down Jim. All right. Well, thank you very much. All righty. Good luck Jim. 188 278. Hello. Hi, my name is Sue and I'm calling from Arlington, Virginia. Thay how you doing. Good. Thanks fine. Well, the question I have for you is part relationship dilemma and part philosophical conundrum. Oh man. This is the kind of question that wage. Into so much trouble to do with a spouse relate that well, I I think you'll be safe on this one. The problem is that my boyfriend thinks that I'm a terrible driver and not you know, he's wonderful. He's supportive in every way. He's just afraid to get in the car with me. Basically. I mean rate actually afraid the thing is, you know, I admit that it's true. I have a lot of near miss when he's in the car with me, but when he's not around I'm a perfectly fine driver and I argue that it's his very presence that distracts me and so I would like to prove to him that I'm a good driver. But the thing is I need a way to prove it without him actually being there. Well, I mean, well, you know, you're how many accidents have you how long you been driving? Oh, well now ten years or more ten years of more. Yes. Okay. That's that's good enough. How many accidents have you had in those? Ten years one how bad was it? It was totaled wage. You totaled the car. How did you do that? Oh, it was a wet day and there were five cars. So I'll hit each other in front of me and I was so sick of the car. Oh and you were tailgating not my fault. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if you were tailgating was your fault off well, but some of the other guys, you know, those those accidents happen all the time because people don't realize there tailgating until they get written up for it exactly how many how many moving violations have you had in those wage? Let's say the last ten years. Oh, I was hoping we were going to go down this road. We've got to find out if he's right. You called us. I mean if you get something to hide, let's let's play this way. I've never had a violation while he's been in the car with me. So that wasn't the question the question you're claiming that you're a good driver when he's not in the car. He wasn't home when the car when you total the damn car was e know he wasn't with you in the car when you go to all those speeding tickets. Well, no, they weren't speeding tickets. What were they? Well we have this thing here in Virginia birth. The red light takes a picture of you when you go through it. How many of those did you get? So as I expected this is not going well. So I got I got two or three of them when I first moved to Virginia five years ago and has gotten one six. Okay, so you got seven of them. I think this would only cover the span of time. I've been dating him for four years and I haven't had one while I've been dating him. Well, I mean it could well be that he's responding to various clues that you're passing on like going through red lights. Well, I guess it's more of a sort of tree falling in the forest but no one can hear it sort of problem. I think it's a clear case of denial. So you're taking his side. I think I think so. I don't I don't know. I don't know suit you. Are you a hacker? Yakar? Yeah you talk a lot. I mean when you when someone's in the car with you, it's just the opposite. My boyfriend is a a big talker and I'm yep. People do that when they're scared ever get next to sit next to someone on a plane was afraid of flying they don't shut up the planes on the ground when he when he accuses me of being a bad driver. Does he give specific instances? I mean does he say my God didn't use see that and you say see what or he says my God does a cockatoo. He scream a lot. Wow. Yeah. That's that's phrases sound pretty familiar. I think so. You know what? Yeah. I think we have to talk to him you do, you know his number I do. Remember we're going to take you off the air for a minute. We're going to get your number to our office assistant producer. All right Louis the Barbarian Cronin. What's his name? Her name is Greg Greg Greg. Yeah. All right. We'll try to get him on the line. Hold on if you will. Okay? Thanks. I'll give us his number. Go ahead. Okay. Got it. He's going to be so happy that you're signing with him or not signing over simply in the fact-finding stage. We call this new legal profession Discovery Church, and we've discovered that you're crazy. All right. Hang on. Hang on. This is Greg. Hey Greg, this is Tom and Ray from Car Talk. Hey, how you doing guys? We're doing great. You know we have on the line with us your girlfriend Sue off. Yeah in claims that you've been on her case about her driving. Well, I don't know if I'm necessarily been on her case a few friendly encouragement side. Say wage like what I mean, we we try we try to probe a little bit and here's the situation she wants to prove to you that she's a good driver and you seem to be unwilling to believe that in in her estimation. Well, I'd have to say that I'm probably more concerned for her safety than her actual driving technique. What kinds of things does she do is my question. I mean, it's it's little things, you know, it's like if she's trying to pass somebody or she's coming up on somebody that's going very slowly. She'll wait until she's all the way up on him and then realized that she needs to move around him. And so we come way up on people and then she's looking over her shoulder. Yeah, and there was a game. So, I don't know if she mentioned there was a brief little amount of time where she got a a number of red-light tickets. Yes, it did happen to mention that we had to probe a little bit to get it out of her and she she gave it up. He only he only admitted to nine of them first first. He said it was three and then and then you know, we finally well that's I think I'll ever heard was three 2 so you got more than I am. Yeah, but are you a are you terrified when you get in the car? Tell the truth? Because she can't hear us. She's on she's on hold on. Am I am I terrified? Yeah, probably not but do I do I have my moments of Terror? Yeah. Sure. So you tell us the truth. I mean, you're pretty much get the death to get inside. All right. All right, I'll cave so, you know after that so you you think that that you're better when Grace not in the car. Absolutely. What month? You think that I mean we have no evidence to support that let Greg just corroborated that you tailgate. I accused you of tailgating when your total your car off wasn't with you. When you're totally complete ganging up on you. You're a lousy stinking driver know if I could get my teenage romantic element cuz my mom told me once that she always has a hard time driving with someone else in the car because she's talking from the door. It does have it has a lot to do with I I drive or better when I'm alone. At least there's no one to scream at me when I'm alone. Exactly. I don't I don't believe that you don't you know what my brother does not drive better when he's alone because he has admitted driving a hundred miles an hour when he's alone. He says, of course I wouldn't do this with my wife was in the car. I never I've never driven a hundred. Yes, you have I was with you off. It was oh man. No, I think I happen to think. I mean you made it was on a racetrack. You may be worse when Greg is around, but I personally think so that you are song called driver. I hate to say it. But the way the way you drive reminds me of my sister. I'm glad you called and and I think you just called us because you wanted to get this off your chest. So I think so too and I think deep down inside you knew that you were a bad driver wasn't this a wonderful cathartic. It was a drug addict experience for you. So you can admit it. Openly you are stinko driver and it is time to shape up. I promise to turn over a new Leaf. I hope you do takes it should be a good zoo off-road sport guy. Thank you Greg. Hey, thanks to you guys. Wow, what you've wasted in otherwise perfectly good hour listening to Car Talk. Our steam producer is dead. 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"Are you hiring with indeed you can post job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash Nightline. That's indeed dot com slash Nightline. Good evening. Thank you for joining us in the age of misinformation. Conspiracies myths and outright lies can live a long life on social media, take for example, those who believe the earth is flat nixed that with YouTube bed. Boy, Logan, Paul who made a controversial Machi mentoring about the flat earth movement. And suddenly the truth gets lost. My name's Logan ball. And I I think I'm coming out of the flat earth closet. Yes. You wrote that right. Controversial YouTube star Logan, Paul Lang and down trailer for his film about the flat earth movement. Do you think the earth is flat? Earth. This flat aren't it's internet headlines declaring YouTube spat as bad boy had finding Boston. But it was all a prank. When now that it's all over, do you think your is flat? No, I don't think the this lead. I think that's the dumbest of my life. It turns out pose YouTube movie, flat earth to the edge and back is a monkey mentoring a flip satire following Paul and his team to flat earth conference where he pretends to embrace the idea that the world is not round Logan. Several hundred attended the conference some thinking all was sympathetic. The now some saying Paul's trick is not funny. I was deceived. I was lied to. I honestly really did believe he was genuine. Okay. Now. Let's get one thing straight. The earth is round. You know, I know loadin Paulson's, but his latest stunt highlights the gray area between free speech and the power of online platforms to spread misinformation conspiracy theories and outright lies. Explain to me, what kind of space YouTube is for missed its ground zero. Unfortunately, Steph one is we have to rely on people to be independently smart enough to say, this seems ridiculous and to seek out information from sources that are verifiable and trustworthy Logan, Paul's belief in a flat earth was Joe, but it's a totally serious endeavor for a significant number of believers on plus one to two thousand seventeen nightline's. Eva pilgrim went to that same flat earth conference, Paul win too. And the earth is bluff when it comes to science. There's things you can test right now. Right fire burns waters. Wet drops. Something falls the ground that appears to be gravity. Those are things you can test. Right. But the curving horizon smoking sea level, the spin of the earth earth say unless you can see these phenomena with your own on's. They may not be true. We're going this is this is crazy. Right. But think about this for the last twenty twenty five generations. This is what we've told people the flat earth ideas seems to have gotten renewed traction in two thousand fifteen with this guy power is never someone bigger than herself. Mark sergeant posted his alleged flat earth proof in a YouTube series. It has had more than two million views part of a series of clues that can help you get your head around both design of the flattered system, we live in kind of the father of this, man. How would you? So to start did not invent flatter. All I did was walk up to a door points at say, you know, what I think it's really interesting things on the other side of this. And check it out for yourself. If flatter is a university. Then I would be the freshman recruiter. But at an actual university, the earth is this fear spheroid if you wanna get Jim Davis is a professor at Columbia University's earth observatory if you were to ask me, why the earth is round the simple answer would be gravity gravity pulls the same in every direction at pulls all the matter of the earth into a sphere that gravity is the same thing that holds us to the earth. And so this one sort of simple theory explains just this huge number of things if you take away one of those pieces, then suddenly a whole bunch of things don't work. Professor Mike Massimino spent more than twenty days in space in worked on the Hubble telescope. So when you looked at the planet. What did it look like looks round? And I looked at it as much as I could it is round Moton Paul's flat earth McHenry now has more than three point five million views the truth set, you free who is Logan Paul Logan, Paul had a startling rise from Viner to youtuber and has become an internationally known celebrity. He does a lot of pranks ruckus behavior, your teenager likely knows who look in police. This mock you mineral is not the first time. He's courted controversy. His most infamous act was blogging a dead body. He found hanging in the so-called suicide forest in Japan's hall apologize saying he had intended for that video to raise awareness for suicide and suicide prevention is more famous and we're shameless. He certainly shameless, absolutely. Mover. Hatim? Polls influences message nearly nineteen million subscribers to his YouTube channel, he's really cute raked than almost fifteen million dollars last hair videos brand deals and merchandise. So when Robbie Davidson founder of a flat earth international conference saw Paul's name when the registration list for the two thousand eighteen event. He did a double take I noticed the name. And I said Logan, Paul. I know that name Davidson says Paul's assistant told him the poll was curious about the earth movement after friend allegedly told him he was a believer. Davison says Paul sounded genuine. Now. There were red flags that went up with other people, but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on the conference's. Second day Davidson says Paul asked to say a few words to the crowd is still wasn't coming out as a bona fide flatter. But he was saying it's interesting, and it was resonating with them. I was there. And I heard that talk where he seemed to indicate he was a flatter their Logan, Paul. My name is Logan, Paul. And I think I'm coming out of the flatters closet. Some people were really stick that they had a pretty big name person in the scene now with them. But some other people thought he was just there for a hoax. The film drops in the parody is laid bare felt sick to my stomach. I actually had the view that it might be neutral. I never ever thought that it would be a positive piece. I thought that he'd had humor in it. But I thought he would get people kind of just questioning things it's okay to slice up this dialogue. But again, it was a mockery from start to finish. Did he go too far? Or is it just him being him? This was definitely more nuanced humor. But also, certainly cruel. Well, I thought would've been better if he could have done it was to examine YouTube role in pushing the flatter theory. Because it's so complicit in that. And I thought to have a youtuber really addresses own medium, and how it shapes flat earth would have been fantastic. But that's not the documentary. We got Logan Paul did not respond to nightline's request for comment. Do you think online platforms have responsibility to make clear the distinction between fact and fiction absolutely something that we're seeing a lot of platforms really putting putting muscle behind now in two thousand nineteen but unfortunately, it's a little too late. These things have spread. So massively that that. Putting that back in the boxes is all but impossible YouTube said that over the last year they have quote work to better surface credible news sources across our site for people searching for news related topics begun producing recommendations of borderline content that can listen for museums in harmful ways and introduce information panels to help give users more sources were they can fact check information there are a growing number of people who believe they're at this. Let this is nothing new. It's now just it's in your pocket where before the guy knocking on your door selling you a hoax truly might have had to come to your front door. Now. Now, it's much much easier to access you. Yes, we do live in a brave new world, but some troops are sold discount. The new very real and very moving documentary about the of soul. Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes? Set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash Nightline. That's indeed dot com slash Nightline. There are a handful of entertainers that you simply have to hear their first name to no not just who they are. But how they make you feel Aretha is one such name Aretha Franklin was a gift, but Nightline Kohic. Juju Chang gives us. An insight look at a new and intimate documentary about Aretha 's roots and her I love gospel. Intimate transcendent Aretha Franklin as she's never been seen before. A new documentary. Nearly fifty years in the making. Never aired footage of the Queen of soul. Reporting her legendary gospel album, amazing, grace, the best selling gospel album of all tone, Warren note of shoes, yet never left. She barely speaks five words. But when she opens her mouth as someone that church might say glory came out. It's a testament to get spiritual from using we sat down with those closest to Franklin. You know, America lost a legend. You lost a mother you lost an aunt what was it like watching this performance? I was very touched our up in a couple parts because the only one. It was the early seventies. The then twenty nine year olds still a diva in the making she's got eleven number one records in a row. She'd already earned our respects as the Queen of soul. She made us thing. Her songs a soundtrack for the civil rights era. But to her son the larger than life diva was just mom, kind of mom was she very loving, caring. Always looking out for my best interest Sivas just Anna Aretha, she'd love to cook. She loved her soap operas, you love Madisha, normal regular person at home. She was most at home here in the church. She always took American to church, if you ever attended any of her concerts, you were going to church before you left there. Her father renown, Reverend c l Franklin I say with pride that wreath is not only my daughter read. It is just a stone's thing. In nineteen seventy-two. She potent gospel. Great Reverend James Cleveland. She can. His choir singing, FAFSA in the L A. Watts. I was blown away to see Mick Jagger in the rear swaying to the music. They're both Atlantic records, you know, label mates and Mick newer, the action was Hollywood director, Sydney Pollack and his crew were there too. So she saw this as that chance to become a movie star. But the production team forgot one important tool. A Clapper that allows you to sync audio to the reels and reels of film years later Pollock called in his old apprentice Allen Elliott. Oh, man. How disappointed he must have been that. He could never get that sound sump together. The he spent three months looking at footage daily, and they could only sync up twelve percent of the stuff. So it's like putting together a million piece jigsaw puzzle right with the advent of digital technology decades later, it became possible is the. Legend true that you mortgage your house to get the rights. Yes, it is. That's how much you believed in it. But once the film was made he received an unexpected surprise. I sued in two thousand fifteen by the Queen herself Retha suit me. I had no idea why she's suing me as like, you know, people say, well, why Why's Retha Franklin matter you, and she said she loved the movie, which was a harder thing to figure out when she passed away last year. Franklin's niece asked Elliott to screen the film for the family, and they were sold you feel it you think you feel it when you're listening to it. And then when you see it, it's just it's very transformative. In her first song, which is I think. Holy holy right. I don't think she opens her eyes through the entire performance to us. This like the moment her zone moment. She. When she would go into concert, she'd go into his own when she closes her eyes. She's not hearing else around or it's all about her performance in what she's doing one. She's in the church in two she's also making recording. Which is these are two things that are police too. With the body of work that spanned six decades hit after hit inspired by her gospel roots, all unmistakably a refund. The natural woman. Justice comfortable singing on stage alongside fellow pop divas as she was performing for president. Even bringing President Obama to tears at the Kennedy Center honors. Franklin a die hard democrat crossed the aisle to perform a duet with former secretary of state Condoleeza Rice. Someone say that she played with the symphony acid Condoleeza Rice plays with the symphony plays. What the piano the piano this? I had to. Aretha excelled across John res-, even making her own unique Mark in opera. Andre. But it wasn't just her singing that impressed her adoring fans. It was also her musicality. I think some of the best parts of her concerts is when she got on a piano, and in she played by ear, and she was gifted, and that's and you know, we often joke you couldn't even say anything in a house where she was because she would hear it. She had a magnificent ear, you know. And so you know, she could play anything. What are you want audiences to rediscover her love for the gospel and furniture, ch? And that is I think it's very very relevant two days and times we're living in right now. And finally tonight. The Disney initiative that aims to help kids expand their horizons through the magic of storytelling. Being father to me means more spending more time more sodas spending money a monster machine. Treasury six-year-old pressing gray is a father of three next. He an strikes work together. He had his first son when he was just fifteen with federal and kind of lost myself. But here I got this child, and I really don't know how to take care we'll provide for growing up in southeast DC. Preston says life wasn't easy. I have I had no money. No job. No vally role model in my life. I'm Tillie met Cherie Krant founder of smart from the start community engagement in School Readiness mission. Often times I can live in the shadows, the marginalized they live in poverty, we give them the resources the tools and the support they need the focusing on fatherhood program was designed to engage young fathers in communities that have in abundance of potential, but don't have the kind of support that's necessary important resources for these families books. I don't know that there is any one single thing that a parent can do for their child that's leur valuable and rewarding than sharing a buck ABC's parent company. Disney house provide millions of books to communities like this one through its storytelling campaign invokes history will inspire others say about becoming a better father, a better man in my community. A better brother abetter soon to be husband. For more information about the campaign. Visit magic of storytelling dot com, and that's Nightline for the night. Thanks to the company America. Good night. Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash Nightline. That's indeed dot com slash Nightline.

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