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"jim butterfield" Discussed on Scene World – The C64 NTSC/PAL Disk Magazine – Podcast

Scene World – The C64 NTSC/PAL Disk Magazine – Podcast

04:10 min | 9 months ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on Scene World – The C64 NTSC/PAL Disk Magazine – Podcast

"I got that got neutered pretty quick though because by the time that i was there it was club koreb and it was. It was not an not even half of what habitat was accusing and became america online. I oh yeah. Yeah and that's where it all went wrong but again you had you know on on on copy of you. Had you know demo guys doing stuff and it was like. There was a big cool scene. -culing cad more of it was. It was more of like your average. Just you know you're sixty four user on there wasn't really if we made there was a demo made by somebody on there it was invariably are inevitably done by with a demo maker deluxe screen maker four. I think was like was was real. Big one of three songs by by rob hubbard. You know playing way too fast and and you know they would just kind of take a picture you know they make a make a quality picture and just sort of stick that in there and make right a scroll text and that was the entire and half. The time was as it was an awful picture. But you know that's that was what passed for demos in the us on there at the time which is it must have been interesting to to have some people like jim butterfield and that being online on those message boards and talking to talk fans people directly that was commodore had their own information network for awhile on this whole thing. That must have been very interesting. Yes oh yeah. Yeah they have the auditorium rooms where you can go in and you know they do a little presentation stuff you know. I remember talking to send messages to jeff jones lodestar. I s you know on that. Because he was on there..

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show

The Paul Finebaum Show

05:57 min | 9 months ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show

"You know the big issue last year which was obviously limited attendance and and it has been a big issue in college. Athletics in college football for a couple of years as as attendance has declined. I doubt it's going to be an issue. This year with the dogs is as good as they are. But but i'm curious as you look beyond this year obviously The concerns that many in your positions around the country have raised about trying to ensure that fans do show up at the football games. Yeah war blessed here. We've got a phenomenal fan. Base has been extremely low for a long time and our ticket. Sales are strong. We're sold out season tickets again We get can never take that for granted they'd come out covert and knowing that there were people that sat at home for more than they would like to last year. That we've got up our game. And that's why i put a big focus on the customer experience so and it starts at little things. We announced this summer. That were we create a core list of concession items that reduce the price ought to make it more family friendly Got a lot more green rolling out this year in terms of customer experience. I'm going gonna keep challenging to find little ways making that experience better and learn from our fears. Got break years down in atlanta at the hawks. In raise the falcons of what they do. And we're gonna steal every good idea we can to make sure we're providing the fans best experience possible. Some of the things are out of our control but everything we control. We've got the best in the country at. I think that's our challenge every day. Find those little things to make those experience better for all of our fans in judge when when you talk to your donors and your fans and i'm sure you have to do this in a industry like this. What what what do you hear from them. What what what do they want that Maybe they haven't had in the past. What services on game day are they most interested in. You know the thing that we get a lot air. The things that are relative to a lot of the sec stadiums. Being older venues right. So you get fans that get to go to mercedes benz and the other venues that have been renovated or brand new. And you've got us phenomenal older stadium. That's historic in sanford. But it provides some challenges because it's been built and expanded upon to so you're you're up against the wall in terms of your counts of number restrooms points of sale ingress zegers pathways. So those are the challenges. Those things of fans i hear about and we're we've already started Progress on one big initiative in the south part of the one hundred level. Stadium that to widen the concourse. The increase the restroom count new restrooms new concessions new points of sale. So it really starts those little things but it's also it's listening. Those are the big things that say they say a lot but but it covers every spectrum from what song they want. hear play to You know how long it took him to get in the stadium at a certain gate but all of those things are important us. And that's why. I say we have to keep finding ways to better every single one of those ways. What type of music do they wanna hear that your. That's it. I mean there is no you put out one song a guarantee. You have the rule that no matter what song you play. Ten percent of the population will be upset with the music. Always a polarizing issue. But i'm always in favour plane is much george music possible so whether it's Rem or allen. Brothers outcast or whoever. I think One of things. We could probably put more sonus as rushing shanghai georgia artists. I can pretty happy to georgia game listening to that those three. Hey scott thanks so much. It's great to have you on the program. We hope to see you very soon in athens. Thanks all thank you you to judge the athletic director at georgia. Rem king can't go wrong with that at a dog game and the allman brothers are georgia. We'll take a break more to come right after this listening to the paul finebaum show podcast. Okay bill conley will join us and few minutes with his list of the best coaches of the last fifty years. I'm on zip through this. As as quickly as i can give you some context. I realize everybody does not have access to this list. So it's a lot of names here. But i'll let you figure out who should and shouldn't be where they are one. Bruce snyder. he coached at arizona. State bronco mendenhall at one hundred. James franklin rich rodriguez ninety eight. Bobby wallace at un a temple body. Ross kevin donnelly. He coached at saint francis. Georgetown of kentucky. Charlie mcclendon from lsu at ninety four kirby smart ninety three ninety two. David shaw dan. Mullen ninety one to stick about this as we hit a couple of other names later on mac years at from missouri state. Nine eighty nine. Larry coker eighty-eight. Ken sparks he was at carson. Newman mike bellotti. Clark gilbert from san diego state mike then dice from carol. I give this guy credit. He dug some names up. Gene stallings at number eighty four. Think about that. Eighty four. Kyle wittingham darryl rogers coach at zona. A stay rich brooks who coach kentucky and oregon dick mcpherson at eighty erk russell. Great georgia southern coach francs. Oh coach for national championship When when in loss to miami. Seventy eight bobby. Protrero seventy seven. He's ranked ahead of a few people. Think about that. Sonny lubick butch davis at seventy five jerry. Claiborne coach it kentucky in the eighties. Jim butterfield from ithaca wayne hardened from navy in iowa ferrans at seventy one tedford at seventy dot nalen west virginia..

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

07:35 min | 1 year ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Unique. Very unique place to go visit. Tell me a little bit about how sports factored into your early life. Well that was That was kind of the thing that we get to fill our time. And you know i i. It wasn't organized like it is today You know you would. You would go out and you would. You have a pickup football game. You'd have to pick up baseball games you know. We've we've done things with the boys and you know how do we fifteen you throw back. You catch it. Then you'd go fist over fist and what it gets to cover. The top of the the bat you know gets first election in the pick. You know how we used to do stuff You know instead of rock paper scissors. That was one one two three shoot and we were doing odds and evens so you. You found a way to do things that we didn't you know we didn't have coaches with us You know we didn't have dads. That were supervising everything you know. We had that in some of the organiz Sports obviously but you know. I'm i'm talking about just the pure enjoyment of the game where you would go out and do it with just a group of friends So that's kind of what everything started and you know the big thing in our part of town where the parts of the parts were were very big at that time is An area for kids. Who had both parents working. You know to kind of go and when you were there there were days what was arts and crafts but the majority of the days. It was a sport and was whatever season you know that. That's what was going on so it was just something that you know where i grew up in what my lights were at the time. He just kind of gravitated to And i think i developed a lot of you know the athleticism there just kind of on our own I'm sure we picked up some bad habits along the ways until we We got around some coaching but Remember just the purity of the sport at that find the love of the game you know even you know obviously growing up in Upstate new york in the wintertime. Freezing you know little ice rink in the backyard of of one of our friends house going down and playing hockey there You know in the wintertime. So we can always find some way to be involved in sports activity. Your lew port high school jersey number thirty four has been retired. Who was important to you and your early athletic career. Oh gosh you know it. It's kind of weird in a kids this. You don't wanna talk to the always ask you know who did you. You know who your heroes who the guy who tried to model your game after You know for me it was. It was actually some high school players. You know you went as a as a young boy to the high school games and and and it's not fighting like they have here in texas but it was. It was pretty cool. You know it was a small community and you know the high school varsity teams. They would drive people to the stadiums they would drive people to the basketball courts So you know. I always remember some of the the older guys when i was growing up You know the whitehead brothers and you know. The man's family with was another group that had been one of the. Dennis was one of my best friends and he was a year older but he had you know several older brothers and are very very athletic. And those guys you know. We always wanted to try and become You just it was more of a local connection than it was a national connection where you were trying to monitor your game off with somebody in the nfl or somebody in the in the nba. so you know for us. It was more of a direct contact. So i've always told kids you know it's great to watch tv and you try to emulate somebody but you know people you idolize and you watch. You should be able to have a dialogue with you. Know they should be somebody that you could reach out to you and And have a conversation with or give you advice you know and whether that was an athlete at your high school You know own over and older brother of one of your friends You know those are the guys that were forced to be and they were always gracious with their time and And giving us Some inclusions and things that would help us out a pretty good student because he had a perfect four point. Oh grade average. I think in your senior year. How did you choose syracuse. Did you not wanna get far away from home. Or what were the circumstances. No that was my only option. So i didn't really have a lot of it. You know our area is not heavily. Recruited to start with. We're tucked away up in In western new york. We're forty five minutes north of buffalo when you know a lot of the scouts are coming across new york state coming across the middle of the state. And you know they'll venture up the rochester. They'll come in to the buffalo area and then usually they're heading south you get into western pennsylvania and we're waiting to ohio which the time with a hotbeds. We're all high school coming out. So you know not a lot of desire to run up into west of new york and and take the tires a little bit so You know i was under the radar for a long time and as you pointed out that was a good student You know my mom. It was something we had no. Pass no play long before it became popular around the country So you know grades were the first thing when if your grade slip and you weren't going to be able to play your sports. So that was the motivation So for me. When i came out of high school one of the schools. I was looking at cornell in the ivy league Good academic institution that also. Had you know competitive football in the eighties And then across the hill from cornell was epoca which back in the seventies and the eighties was very dominant football program at the division. three level. under jim butterfield as the had killed so I had gone down on a trip to visit cornell and i Went over to ethica visit coach butterfield. Time since we were there and there was some other division preschool that was looking at. And right before we had gone on that trip syracuse university kind of reached out and you know inquired about what i was thinking and You know started to dialogue. So when i met with butterfield You know he asked me who else wealth is out there looking at you. Who are we competing against. Whether you're at ithaca and there was you know obviously the university of buffalo in buffalo state which were back where i grew up which were division three programs. You know saint lawrence was a bigger division three program. You know up in the northeast corner of the state There was a few other division. Three programs i was i was looking at that. As good football back where we grew up at that time and then obviously told him about cornell and then and i informed him that thirteen universities is the school. That's just begun. Show some interesting. He kind of lifted up his His is from writing things down in and looked at syracuse. You can't compete at syracuse. So i kind of do right there number one. What they're going to ethica. I was probably going to go to syracuse You know at that time. In my life i was. I was approved. People wrong at the guy. He told me that was something i couldn't do. I would work as hard as i possibly could to prove people wrong. So that was probably the big motivator for me To really kinda get behind the opportunity to go to syracuse university Because since he told you know i was i. You know i'm no fool you know. It was december of my senior year You know why. Why did it take that long for disney one program to recruit somebody i. It's not like he didn't today but you know it it. Also you know you have your recruiters and the coaches are looking you tape and trying to evaluate players and You know it's an recruited for the for the first time to get the first contact december. You've seen a year that you know it seems a bit odd and So there was a little bit of apprehension for me. You know it was this big. Was you know something that There was going to be challenging and later found out the entire story as to why he was december might senior year. And it's the first..

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

08:36 min | 1 year ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"You know the the big thing in in our party tower, the parts of the parts were. Were very big at that time is is in an area for kids who had both parents working you know to kind of go and and when you were there, you know there was days what was arts and crafts, but the majority days it was a sport and it was whatever season. You know that that sport was going on. So it was just something that. You know where I grew up in what my likes were at the time. You just kind of gravitated to and and I think I developed a lot of. You know the athleticism there just kind of on our own I'm sure we've picked up some bad habits along the way, and so we We got ransom coaching but I always remember just the purity of the sport at that time and the love of the game even you know obviously growing up in Upstate New York you know in the wintertime you know freezing you know a little ice rink in the backyard of one of our friend's house going down playing hockey they're. You know in the winter top. So we we we can always find some way to be involved in sports activity your loopholes Highschool Jersey number thirty four has been retired who was important to you and your early athletic. Career. Oh Gosh you know it's Kind of weird in poke kids this you don't want to talk to the always ask you know who did you. You know who your heroes you know who are the guy he's tried to model your game after you know for me it was it was actually some of the high school players you know you went. As a as a young boy high school games and and it's not. Like they have here in Texas, but you know it was it was pretty cool. You know it was it was a small community and you know the high school varsity teams you know they would. They would drive people to the stadiums. They would drive people to the basketball courts So you know I always remember some of the the older guys when I was growing up, you know the whitehead brothers and you know the man's family. With was another group that had it. One of the dentist was one of my best friends and he was a year older but he had you know several older brothers who are very very athletic and those guys that know we always wanted to try and become. just it was more of a local connection than it was a national connection where you were trying to monitor your game with somebody in the NFL or. Somebody in the NBA. So you know for us it was more of a direct contacts. I've always told kids. You know it's great to watch TV and you try to emulate somebody but you know people who you idolize and you watch you should be able to have a dialogue with you know they should be somebody that you could reach out to and and have a conversation with or give you advice. You know whether that was you know an athlete at your high. School you know An. Older, brother of of one of your friends you know that those are the guys that were forced to be and and they were always gracious with their time and and getting some conclusions and things that would help us out. I know you're a pretty good student because he had a perfect four point. Oh, grade average I in your senior year how did you choose? Syracuse did you not want to get far away from home or were the circumstances? No, that was my only option. So. I didn't I didn't really have a lot. You know our area's not heavily recruited to start with tucked away up in in western New, York? We're we're forty five minutes north of Buffalo. So when You know a lot of the scouts are coming across New York state but coming across through which ones right through the middle of the state and no venture up to Rochester, they'll come into the buffalo area and then usually they're heading south you get into western Pennsylvania we're way into. which at the time with hotbeds, we're on a high school athletes coming out. So you know not a lot of desire to run up into western New York and and take the tires a little bit. So you know I was under the radar for a long time, and as you pointed out, that was a good student You know my mom that was something we had no pass no play long before it became popular around the country So you know grades were the first thing you have your grade slipped and you weren't gonna be able to play your sport. So that was the motivation. so For me when I came out of high school, one of the schools I was looking at. Cornell. In the Ivy League you know a good academic institution that also had you know competitive football in the eighties. and. Then across the hill from Cornell was EPOCA, which back in the seventies and the eighties was very dominant football program at the division three level under Jim Butterfield as head coach. So I'd gone down in a trip to visit. Cornell. And I went over to Ethica visit coach Butterfield time since we were there and there were some other division three schools that was looking at and right before we get going on that trip. Syracuse, university had kind of reached out and. You know. Inquired about what I was thinking and you know started to dialogue. So when I met with Butterfield he asked who else is out there looking at you who are we competing against with your epoca and you know there was you know obviously the University of Buffalo in Buffalo State, which we're back where I grew up, which were division free programs. Saint was a bigger division three program you know up in the the northeast corner of the state You know there was a few other free programs I would I was looking at that as good football back where we grew up at that time, and then obviously they told them about Cornell and informed them that well surtees. Universities is the school that's just kinda begun show some interest in and he kind of lifted up. Is from writing things down and looked at Syracuse, you can't compete at Syracuse. So. I. Kind of do their number one at what they're going to Ethica. I was probably going to go to Syracuse You know at that time in my life I was. I was approved people wrong guy. He told me there was something I couldn't do I would work. Is Hard as I possibly could approve people on. So that was probably The big motivator for me to really Kinda get behind the opportunity to Syracuse University because he told I was you know I'm no fool. You know it was December of my senior year. You know why? Why did it take that long for for individual and program to recruit somebody? It's not like he didn't today but you know it also like you know you have your the recruiters and coaches that are looking at tape and trying to valuable players and you know to be recruited for the for the first time to get the first contact send review senior year that you know it seems a bit odd. and so there was a little bit of apprehension for me. You know was this too big was this. something. That's going to be challenging and later found out the entire story as to why It was December by senior year. The first, the first contact was made by the university. We only have about a minute before we have to break here you gravitated to the fullback position rather naturally you're a special teams player in a darn good one at that you comfortable. What was it about that position Daryl that you felt comfortable and really enjoyed The. Big thing was when I when I graduated high school I was I was running back and when I went down to Syracuse. Immediately went to the full back position You know that was would've one of the things that they had identified asd it was kind of odd because you know my senior high school I was first team all state as a fullback, but never played before decision. So I guess the Writers New York State new something that I know and then I just I, knew that that was my way to be a part of the Syracuse Program you know they they were running the oxygen and time. So, I was going to get You know quite a few carriers you know averaged over one hundred carries you know for for three years when I was at Syracuse. University. So you were foundational piece of the offense and You know that was great for me. You know it was definitely going to be my way. If they tried to navigate this opportunity for me to find my niche and be accorded Syracuse football over Daryl Johnston is with us and we're talking about his fine career. We'll talk about his NFL career on the other side but he played at Syracuse he rushed for eighteen hundred thirty yards and once gained one hundred, thirty eight yards rushing the most by syracuse running back since Larry soccer rushed for a hundred and fifty your yards in one thousand, sixty, seven we come back on the other side as we continue across the country and around the world, it's good to have you with us on America's sports talk show. Have you written a book you can become a published author with Dorrance publishing the nation's oldest publishing services. Company countless authors have trusted does for nearly a hundred years to bring their book to the market are professional team will editor text design your book pages and create an appealing I catching custom cover loss. 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"jim butterfield" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

10:52 min | 2 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"America's sports talk show sports byline USA. Here's Ron Bar Daryl. Johnston joins us on sports byline. I think football fans know him as Moose See. Here's it all the time when he was playing former. NFL fullback who played his entire eleven eleven year career with Dallas. He won three super bowl championships. With the cowboys he was picked in the second round after playing college. Ball at Syracuse. Let's go back to the beginning inning. Darryl tell me a little bit about growing up in Youngstown New York and I saw the latest population is two thousand sixty three booming. The booming metropolis It was it was like mayberry You know very Rockwell Ian you never ever lock your doors You know everybody looked out for each other. It's just one of those really unique opportunities. Probably very similar to what people would have experienced growing up in the fifties and sixties You know we were still able to do that in the seventies and the eighties so It was It was something that I think is then important to me and setting my values You know it's it was about a work ethic You know a faith in Christ You know just very very grounded You know as a foundation as you left there so On you know still have an opportunity to go back and it's still the same. It's it's Kinda like it's it's stuck in time. Nothing's really impacting at it's It's very unique. It's very the unique place to to go visit. Tell me a little bit about how sports factored into your early life. Well that was. That was kind of the thing that we did this time. And and you know I I. It wasn't organized like it is today You know you would. You would go out and you. Would you have a pickup football game. You never pick up baseball game name you know. We've we've done things with the boys and you know yeah well how do we pick teams. Throw back you catch it then. You go first. Overfishing whoever gets the cover the top of the bat you know gets first election in the you know how we used. Did you stop You know instead of rock paper scissors. It was one one two three shooting. We're doing odds and evens So you you found your way to do things but we didn't you know we didn't have coaches with You know we didn't have dads. That were supervising everything you know. We had that in some of the organized Sports obviously but you know I'm talking about just the pure enjoyment of the game where you would go out and do a group of friends So that's kind of where everything started and you know the the big thing in in our part of town where the part of the parks were. Were very big At that time is is a a an area for kids who had both parents working you know not the Kinda go and and when you were there there was days what was arts and crafts but the majority of the days was exporting. It was whatever season and you know that. That's what was going on so it. It was just something that you know where I grew up in. What my likes were at the time he just kind of gravitated to And I think I developed a lot of the you know the Outlet US as a marriage is kind of on our own I'm sure we've picked up some bad habits along the way. And so we We got around some coaching. But I always remember just the purity of the sport at that time the love of the game you know even you know obviously growing up in Upstate New York you know in the wintertime freezing. You know a little ice rink in the backyard of board of our friend's house going down and play hockey there You know in the wintertime so we we can always find some way to be involved in sports activity here. Lou Poured Award Highschool Jersey number. Thirty four has been retired. who was important to you and your early athletic career? Oh Gosh you know yeah. It's Kinda weird coach. Kids this you don't want to talk to the always that you know who did you. You know who are your heroes. Who are the guys tried to model your game after are You know for me. It was it was actually some high school players. You know you went has a young boy to the high school games and and and it's not like they have here in Texas but you know it was. It was pretty cool. You know it was. It was a small community and you know the high school varsity teams. You know they they would drive people to the stadiums they would drive people. People were basketball courts So you know I always remember some of the the older guys when I was growing up You know the white brothers and you know the man's family was there's another group that had been one of one of my best friends and he was a year old but he had you know several older brothers who are very very athletic. And those guys you know we always wanted to try and become it was more of a local connection than it was a national connection where you were trying to model your game off of somebody in the NFL or somebody in the NBA so You know for us. It was more of a direct contact. So I've always told kids you know it's great to watch TV and you try to emulate somebody but you no people who you idolize and you watch. You should be able to. Have you know a dialogue with. They should be somebody that you could reach out to and And have a conversation with or did you advice as you know whether that was. You know an athlete at your high school You know In Brooklyn older brother of your friends. you know. Those are the guys that were forced to me and and they were always gracious with their time and And giving us Some conclusions and things that would help us out. I know you're a pretty good student because he had a perfect four point. Oh Oh great average I think in your senior year how did you choose Syracuse. Did you not WanNa get far away from home. Or what were the circumstances. No that was my only option so go I. Didn't I didn't really have a lot and you know our area's not heavily recruited To start with we're talk away up in In Western after New York. We're we're forty five minutes north buffalo so when you know a lot of the scouts are coming across New York state. They're coming across the throughway which was in the middle of the state. And you know they'll venture up to Rochester. I Chester. They'll come into the buffalo area and then usually they're heading south you get into western Pennsylvania and work their way into Ohio. which at the time with a hot beds all the high school athletes coming out of so you know not a lot the desire to run up into west of New York and and kick the tires a little bit so You know I was under the radar for a long time and as you pointed out that was a good student You know my mom. It was something we had no. Pass no play long before it became popular around the country So you know grades were the first thing you have. Your grade slipped and you weren't gonNA it'd be able to play your sports so you know that was the motivation So for me. When I came out of high school one of the schools I was looking at Cornell? Any Ivy League Good Academic Institution that also had you know competitive football in the eighties And then across the hill from Cornell was EPOCA which back in the seventies and the eighties was very dominant before program at the division. Three level. under Jim Butterfield as the head coach. So I going on down in a trip to visit Cornell and I Went over to new EPOCA that there's a coach Butterfield on since we were there and there was some other division preschools that was looking at. And right before we get going on that trip Syracuse University kind of reached out and you know inquired about what I was thinking and and you know started dialogue so when I met with coach Butterfield You know he asked who else. Who else is out there looking at you will be competing against with your EPOCA and there was you know obviously the University of Buffalo State which were back where I grew up which were division three programs? You know Saint Lawrence was a bigger division three program. You know up in the northeast. He's corner of the state. There was a few other division three programs. I was looking at that as good football back where we grew up at that time. And then obviously it's the about four now and then and I informed him. That thirteen university is a school. That's Kinda begun to show some interest in kind of lifted up his His is in writing things. Down and and looked at eighty syracuse years you can't compete at Syracuse. So I kind of do right there number. One what they're going to Ethica I was probably probably GonNa go to Syracuse You know at that time in my life I was a I was approved. People wrong at the guy. He told me there was something I couldn't do. Our would work as hard orders. I possibly could to to prove people on so that was probably the big motivator for me To Really Kinda get behind behind the opportunity to go to Syracuse University Because he told you know I was You know I'm no fool you know. It was December of my senior year. you know why why. Why did it take that long for program to recruit somebody I? It's not like it is today but you know it it. Also you know you have your the recruiters and the coaches. They're looking at tape and trying to evaluate players and You know it's an recruited for the for the first time you get the first contact December senior year that you know it seems a bit odd and So there was a little bit of apprehension for me was this too big was something that there was gonna be challenging and later found out the entire story as the Y.. It was December by senior year The first the first contact was made by the university. We only have about a minute before we have to break here. You gravitated to the fullback position. Rather naturally you're a special teams player in a darn good one at that. Were you comfortable. What was it about that position Daryl that you uncomfortable and really enjoyed? The big thing was when I when I graduated high school. I was running. Back when I went down to Syracuse immediately. Went to the fullback position Yeah that was You know one of the things that they had identified the as it was kind of odd because you know my senior high school I was first team. All state is back but never played fullback position position so I guess the Raiders New York State new something that I did know And then I just. I knew that that was my way to be a part of the Syracuse Program You know they they. They were running the Oxford at the time on so I was going to get You know quite a few carries averaged over a hundred Kerry's For three years when I was in Syracuse University. So Oh you were foundational piece of the offense and You know that was great for me you know it. It was definitely going to be my way They tried to navigate this opportunity for me to find find my niche in be accorded. This Football Program Daryl. Johnston is with us and we're talking about his fine career we'll talk about his. NFL career on the other side but he played at Syracuse. He rushed for eighteen hundred thirty yards and once gained one hundred. Thirty eight yards rushing the most by a syracuse running back since Larry czanka rushed for a hundred and I'm fifty four yards in nineteen sixty seven. We come back on the other side as we continue across the country and around the world. It's good to have you with us on America's sports talk show. Oh are you.

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

14:15 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"C T two seven nine six four five. KFI AM six forty. We're back with Shelly niece. We're talking about the copper scroll project and of the few am cribbing here from Shelly nieces website of the few who have risked their careers and reputations to search for copper, scroll treasures only one remains. He's an unlikely hero of firemen from Oklahoma. And I'm word winning investigator named Jim Barfield who treated the copper, scroll like evidence in an arson case and came to an astonishing realization all of the locations described in the copper, scroll have exact architectural matches with Coomer on this rather unimpressive ruin perched on a plateau just off the coast of Israel's Dead Sea. At what point does Jim actually traveled to Israel to test is theory. Good question. So he really it was after he identified the first twenty locations. It's not that you know, he never says that God told him that the copper scroll treasure was here. He never sort of lays down any Trump cards. But he just kept at it. I mean, he's just a person who wants he gets hold of a threat. He's going to follow it all the way through. So it was once he identified the first twenty locations in the copper, scroll and saw that they all had architectural matches income Ron that is when he had to get on a plane and go and see it in person himself, and and sort of walk the copper scroll on the ground at Ron because for one he also didn't know if he couldn't tell what the flooring was was like either. So you know, he might be able to match up ritual immersion pools are great cisterns or hairstyles or courtyard with all things listed in the copper scroll. But what he didn't know is. Could if anybody would be able to break through that ground, or if it would be threatening to ruin itself, and so he flew there with his wife, and that was the first time he had ever been to Israel was to see if it's copper call translations at was correct. And what was his motivation was he a treasure seeker was a spiritual quest. So no, he is it was definitely spiritual. He said, and I really after knowing him for a decade. I I know that this is true that he just wants these items to be found and returned to Israel, and he has no ulterior motives, he he considers this to be Israel's Israel's birthright, or you know, her. There's no other. There's no other motive, and it's also not as as anyone would be able to establish any monetary value on these things anyways. Now, he is a really religious man and very. Very strict keeping in with the Sabbath and with laws of the Torah. But also is a believer in Jesus. And so he kind of occupies both orbits. He's a little bit of a religious chameleon in that way that when he's with a group of Jews that he speaks the language of tour of what's important to to religious Jews. But he also is is great with Kristen audiences. So I see him kind of navigate both of those worlds and do it. Well because both are important to him. At this point. Is there does the technology exists to do sort of ground penetrating imaging? Can they see what's under the ground? Right. So the technology has has come a long way like you reference oak island. You know, every time that they hit a wall. They always just get a new grand piece of technology to keep the plot moving. But what is what was the problem fifty years ago is that even when there were metal detectors, even when metal detecting technology existed? This is the Dead Sea area, so the soil there is mineralized in a very different way than any other place in the world. And so so metal detectors just gave false positives or we're able to read the soil and the right way. And so for then the beginning when Koran was excavated metal detectors weren't very useful. Jim barfield? One part is that so ground penetrating radar has been done at Koran but not for what we were looking for in the copper scroll because the copper scroll. This is it's where it occupies space between this isn't traditional archaeology archaeology digs down to the last level of habitation. And when that's reached you stop the copper school is asking you to dig nine to twelve feet deeper than that. And to dig for something that was buried, so it's it's a really unnatural process for archaeologists to to pursue that. And so the ground penetrating radar that had been done that show Boyd's at Ron does show that there are underground sort of storage areas rental price from liberty university had done a lot of that work on a plateau. And and he too has found voids there that that he hasn't been able to excavate some of them cut into cliffs. There's like a very steep Wadi that dropped right at the edge of Koran. So you have to be careful. Even an excavating caves or anything in that area because it's very collapsible. So we did get our hands on a Lorenzo deep max metal detector, which is probably the best metal detector for that region. A white smell detector is is strong. But that this is a ten thousand dollar metal detector when you add in the technology between being able to read the scans. But and it's a cube to cube that you drag and it can tell the difference between ferrous and nonferrous metals second tell the difference. You know, we're looking for gold silver bronze or something else? And it can give some indication of size and depth, which is really letting had to be done for the copper scroll. And what did it reveal? Well, so for years, so I have to back up a little in two thousand nine. And this is just a crazy sort of chronology of events that even Jim are able to do this. But he was able to get a meeting with the equities at thirty and to excavate at three of the sites that were listed and his research, which how this Oklahoma's and investigator was able to get a meeting with the Israel antiquities authority and much less for them to to want to test and probe his research is, you know, as a as tell them within itself, but he was able to do it. And so what became clear in that process? Is that? The copper with sixty locations. And so if you dig all over Kumaon at that kind of debt and sixty different sites. You'll have you'll destroy Koran in the process you'll end up making Koran look like an up close side of the moon, you know, just craters everywhere. And so even though he had specific research that pointed to specific places coom Ryan as a sacred site in and of itself to Israel and to the religious community. And so he had to be really careful until it became clear that doing nine foot probes income Ron proper was not ideal. And and so for many years, he applied after that dig that dig was abruptly shut down for reasons that that I can speculate on, but we don't know for sure. And so and an archaeologist that had been in charge of the day, and who had really believed in Jim Burke fields research, and he was the number two person in command of Kumaon from an archaeological level he actually died in a. A tragic cave accident. Not so long after and so it really kind of brought everything to a to a halt. And for whatever reason the Israel antiquities at thirty denied permission to do an electronic scan of come on and for years it sat that way for years. Jim Barfield was applying. He was finding new archaeologists. He was writing new reports meeting with new readers sometimes waiting out people to retire in the antiquities authority. And so he returned Israel's something like sixteen times. Right. Sixteen times. Right. Exactly. So this guy's tenacious. He's two nations. So today says and every time, you know, kind of building up this army of allies. A lot of people in the Temple Mount move at a lot of religious Jews who want who see at third temple and Israel's future really have aligned with Jim Butterfield and to succeed nothing has ever been found from the interior of the first or second temple. We have plenty of exterior evidence from the temples retaining walls are still there. We have things that a stone marks the place of trumpeting, we have previously weights and scales. We we do we have things, but we don't have. So certainly, you know, there's no denying the existence of the Jewish temple. But because of two thousand years of invaders ocupation interest in being destroyed and rebuilt up. And because we can't excavate on the Temple Mount there's really nothing from from the ritual vessels or their religious those that we have. There was one tiny pomegranate that was found that was believed to be on the end of a priestly sceptre, and it had an inscription that said from the house of Galway or in the house of Yali, and it has been proved to be a forgery which brings us back to the row in terms of what we can sort of the banner that the Temple Mount back in March under that they would love for Jim Barfield to be successful. So he really has sort of this religious cohort of allies that has can't be around him. But but just yes for years with knocking on on the wrong doors and really getting nowhere in terms of of the authority approving a permit, which the archaeologists that we worked with really couldn't even understand it said he'd never been denied a permit for something like that before because it was non invasive it wasn't threatening to the ruin especially when we were able to get a hold of the Wren's, which is much better a metal detector. So it was really frustrating time period. He I understand he even met with a member of the modern day and Hedren. Yes. He met with the whole fan Hendrid. So right twice. And they and he presented his whole research. She has a he's a report writer for Comanche nation college in Oklahoma. And so after he retired from I investigation. He actually taught report writing community college. But anyways, he wrote his I mean, you should see his report is two hundred and sixty five pages filled with. Maps, and descriptions and translations, and and, you know, graphic images of the copper scroll. Just it's a it's a pretty amazing piece of work in and of itself. And so he always he's bringing it to these meetings. And so he presented the San he joined with his research was presented lots of people in Israel with his research. All who seems it to, you know, just something heads in disbelief thinking that the answers then there this whole time that Kumaon has held the secret the whole time. And so that's yeah. He's gone up the religious waters highs. It can go right? So is it is it a stubborn bureaucracy is it's a fear that by unearthing. These these treasures that it will somehow ignite political disputes land claims ignited, I dunno a Middle East war. What is the fear here? What's at stake? So probably yes. To all of those. Technically by Israel's archaeological laws Ron is areas. See which means that Koran is not Israel proper in should Israel peace process, ever, be reignited coumarin would be under negotiation or that area of Israel negotiation and potentially heart ever, new Palestinian state. And so by international. International the Geneva, Convention standards. Whatever comes out of that area, whatever's on earth, and and excavations in that area is disputed property because the land is disputed, and so Israel, actually when I say the is that he was working with. Thirty that's not entirely true because it's a military wing of the around is its own institution. And technically when something is found in that area. It has to it can be studied. And it can be researched and published by the gal or the scholar that founded. But it goes in a military warehouse afterwards until the land is no longer in dispute. So that part of Indiana Jones is fair and accurate that that this would technically be boxed up in a crate with the stamp covenant. There. So in some ways, maybe they're being wise. Maybe the antiquities that argue smart, and and and and the same ways that we do this and other parts of the world, you know, that there are other terracotta soldiers in China, and that they're saving them to be excavated at a future date, when we know that the the paint wall immediately come off of them, or, you know, in Egypt with the pyramids that we know that are void that. Maybe you Wade out a better technology that can contest that that earned more accurately..

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

11:28 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on KGO 810

"Four five. Now, more of coast to coast AM odd cagey. Oh, eight ten. We're back with Shelly niece. We're talking about the copper scroll project and of the few and I'm cribbing here from Shelly nieces website of the few who have risked their careers and reputations to search for copper, scroll treasures only one remains. He's an unlikely hero of firemen from Oklahoma and award winning investigator named Jim Barfield who treated the copper, scroll like evidence in an arson case and came to an astonishing realization all of the locations described in the copper, scroll have exact architectural matches with Coomer on this rather unimpressive ruined perched on a plateau just off the coast of Israel's Dead Sea. At what point does Jim actually traveled to Israel to test. His theory. Good question. So he really it was after he identified the first twenty locations. It's not that you know, he never says that God told him that the copper scroll treasure was here. He never sort of lays down any Trump cards. But he just kept at it. I mean, he's just a person who once he gets hold of it threat. He's gonna follow it all the way through. So it was once he identified the first twenty locations in the copper, scroll and saw that they all had architectural matches in Qom Ron that is when he had to get on a plane and go and see it in person himself, and and sort of walk the copper scrawl on the ground at on because for one he also didn't know if he couldn't tell what the flooring was was like either. So you know, he might be able to match up which will immersion pools are great. Cisterns or parasols or courtyard with all things listed in the copper scroll. But what he didn't know if he could if anybody would be able to break through that ground, or if it would be threatening to ruin itself, and so he flew there with his wife, and that was the first time he had ever been to Israel was to see copper, squirrel. Translation, was correct. And what was his motivation was he a treasure seeker was this a spiritual quest. So no, he is it was definitely spiritual. He says, and and I really after knowing him for a decade. I I know that this is true that he just wants these. I don't be found and returned to Israel, and he has no alterior motive he he considers this to be Israel's Israel's birthright, or you know, her. There's no other there. There's no other motive, and it's also not as as anyone would be able to establish any monetary value on these things. Anyway, now, he is a really religious man of very. Very strict keeping in with the Sabbath and with laws of the Torah. But also believe Jesus, and so he kind of occupies both orbits. He's a little bit of a religious chameleon in that way. When he's with a group of Jews that he speaks the language of tour and of what's important to to religious Jews. But he also is is great with Kristen audiences. So I see him kind of navigate both of those worlds and do it. Well because both are important to him. At this point. Is there this technology exists to do sort of ground penetrating? Imaging can see what's under the ground. Right. So the technology has has come a long way like you reference oak island. You know, every time that they hit a wall. They always just get a new grand piece of technology to keep the pot moving. But what is what was the problem fifty years ago is that even when there were metal detectors, even when metal detecting technology existed? This is the Dead Sea area, so the soil there is mineralized and a very different way than any other place in the world. And so so metal detectors just gave false positives or we're able to read the soil and the right way. And so for then the beginning when Koran was excavated metal detectors weren't very useful. Jim barfield? One part is that so ground penetrating radar has been done at Combe run. But not for what we were looking for in the copper scroll because the coppers grow. This is it's it's where it occupies some space between this isn't traditional archaeology archaeology things down to the last level of habitation. And when that's reached you stop the copper school is asking you to dig nine to twelve feet deeper than that. And to dig for something that was buried, so it's it's a really a natural process for our gala this to to pursue that. And so the ground penetrating radar that had been done does show voids at Combe Ron does show that there are underground sort of storage areas. Randall priced from liberty university had done a lot of that work on the Koran plateau, and he too has found voids there that that he hasn't been able to excavate some of them cut into a cliff. There's like a very steep Wadi that drops right at the edge of Koran. So you have to be careful even an excavating caves or anything in that area because it's very collapsible. So we did get our hands on a Lorenzo deep max metal detector, which is probably the best metal detector for that region. A white smell detector is is strong. But that this is a ten thousand dollar metal detector when you out and the technology between being able to read the scans. But and it's a cute. It's a cute that you drag and it can tell the difference between ferrous and nonferrous metals tell the difference, you know, for looking for gold silver bronze or something else, and it can give some indication of size, and which is really what he had to be done for the copper scroll. And what did it reveal? Well, so for years, so. I have to back up a little in two thousand nine and this is just a crazy sort of chronology of events that even JIMBO was able to do this. But he was able to get a meeting with the authority and to excavate at three of the sites that were listed in his research, which how this Oklahoma's and investigator was able to get a meeting with the Israel antiquities authority and much less for them to to want to test and probe his research is you know, as a as a tell them within itself. But he was able to do it. And so what became clear in that process is that the copper school is sixty locations. And so if you gig all over Kumaon at that kind of debt in sixty different sites. You'll have you'll destroy Koran in the process you'll end up making coumarin look like an up close side of the moon, craters everywhere. And so even though he had specific research that pointed to specific places coom Ron as a sacred site in and of itself to Israel and to the religious community. And so he had to be really careful, and so it became clear that doing nine foot probes income Ron proper was not ideal. And and so for many years, he applied after that dig that dig was abruptly shut down for reasons that that I can speculate on, but that we don't know for sure. And so and an archaeologist that had been in charge of the dig and who had really believed in Denver fields research, and he was the number two person in command of Kumaon from an archaeological level he actually died and. A tragic cave accident. Not so long after and so it really kind of brought everything to a to a hot. And for whatever reason the Israel antiquity authority denied permission to do an electronic scan of come on and for years it sat that way for years. Jim Barfield was applying. He was finding new archaeologists. He was writing new reports meeting with new leaders sometimes waiting out people to retire in the integrity of the thirty. And so he returned Israel something like sixteen times sixteen times. Right. Exactly. So this guy's tenacious eastern Atias. So today says and every time, you know, kind of building up this army of allies. A lot of people in the Temple Mount move at a lot of religious Jews who who want who see at third temple in Israel's future really have aligned with Jim Butterfield and want to succeed. Nothing has ever been found from the interior of the first or second temple. We appointing. Exterior evidence from the temples. Now, the retaining walls are still there. We have things that a stone that marks the place of trumpeting Presley weights and scales that we we do we have things, but we don't have. So certainly, you know, there's no denying the existence of the Jewish temple. But because of two thousand years of invaders and occupation in Jerusalem being destroyed and rebuilt back up, and because we can't excavate on the Temple Mount, there's really nothing from from the ritual vessels or their religious, those that we have there was one tiny pomegranate that was found that was believed to be on the end of a priestly sceptre, and it had an inscription that said from the house of y'all way or how and has been proved to be a forgery, which brings us back to the show in terms of what we can sort of the banner that the Temple Mount movement in March under. That they would love for Jim Barfield to be successful. So he really has sort of this this religious cohort of allies that have have championed around him. But but just yes for years with knocking on on the wrong doors and really getting nowhere in terms of the antiquities authority approving a permit, which the archaeologists that we worked with really couldn't even understand it said he'd never been denied a permit for something like that before because it was non invasive it wasn't threatening to the ruin especially when we were able to get a hold of the Lorenzo, which is a much better metal detector. So is is really a frustrating.

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

News Radio 1190 KEX

08:38 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

"Israel's birthright, or you know, her. There's no other there. There's no other motive, and it's also not as as anyone would be able to establish any monetary value on these things. Anyway, now, he is a really religious man and very. Very strict keeping in with the Sabbath and with laws of the Torah. Also is a believer in Jesus. And so he kind of occupied both orbits. He's a little bit of a religious chameleon in that way that when he's with a group of Jews that he speaks the language of tour and of what's important to to religious Jews. But he also is is great with Christian audiences. So I see him kind of navigate both of those worlds and do it. Well because both are important to him. At this point. Is there does the technology exists to do sort of ground penetrating imaging? Can they see what's under the ground? Right. So the technology has has come a long way like you reference oak island. You know, every time that they hit a wall. They always just getting new grand fiefs of technology to keep the plot moving. But what is what was the problem fifty years ago is that even when there were a metal detectors, even when metal detecting technology existed? This is the Dead Sea area, so the soil there is mineralized and a very different way than any other place in the world. And so so metal detectors just gave false positives or we're able to read the soil and the right way. And so for then the beginning when Koran was excavated metal detectors weren't very useful. Jim barfield? When part is that so ground penetrating radar has been done at Combe run. But not for what we were looking for in the copper scroll because the coppers girl. This is it's it's where it occupies some space between this isn't traditional archaeology traditional archaeology things down to the last level of habitat. And when that's reached you stop the copper school is asking you to dig nine to twelve feet deeper than that. And to dig for something that was buried, so it's it's a really natural process for archaeologists to to pursue that. And so the ground penetrating radar that had been done that show voids at Combe Ron does show that there are underground sort of storage areas. Randall price from liberty university had done a lot of that work on a plateau. And and he too has found void stare that. That he hasn't been able to excavate some of them cut into a cliff. There's like a very steep Wadi that drops right at the edge of Kumaon. So you have to be careful even an excavating caves or anything in that area because it's very collapsible. So we did get our hands on a Lorenzo deep max metal detector, which is probably the best metal detector for that region. A white smell detector is is strong. But that this is a ten thousand dollar metal detector when you add in the technology between being able to read the scans. But and it's a cube. It's a cute that you drag and it can tell the difference between ferrous and nonferrous metals second tell the difference. You know, we're looking for gold silver bronze or something else, and it can give some indication of size, and which is really what had to be done for the copper scroll. And what did it reveal? Well, so for years, so I have to back up a little in two thousand nine and this is just a crazy sort of chronology of events that even Jim was able to do this. But you were able to get a meeting with the equities at thirty and to excavate at three of the sites that were listed in his research, which how this Oklahoma's and investigator was able to get a meeting with the Israel antiquities authority and much less for them to to want to test and probe his research is, you know, as a tell them within itself, but he was able to do it. And so what became clear in that process is that the conference call with sixty locations. And so if you gig all over Kumaon at that kind of debt and sixty different sites. You'll have you'll destroy Koran in the process you'll end up making Koran look like an app close side of the moon, craters everywhere. And so even though he had specific research that pointed to specific places coom Ryan, the sacred site in and of itself to Israel and to the religious community. And so he had to be really careful, and so it became clear that doing nine foot probes income Ron proper was not ideal. And and so for many years, he applied after that dig that dig was abruptly shut down for reasons that I can speculate on, but that we don't know for sure. And so and not archaeologist that had been in charge of the day, and who really believed in Barfield research, and he was the number two person in command of Kumaon. From an archaeological level he actually died in a tragic accident. Not so long after and so it really kind of brought everything to a to a halt. And for whatever reason the Israel antiquity authority denied permission to do an electronic scan of Koran and for years it sat that way for years. Jim Barfield was applying. He was finding new archaeologists. He was writing new reports meeting with new readers sometimes waiting out people to retire in the integrity of thirty. And so he returned Israel's something like sixteen times. Right. Sixteen times. Right. Exactly. So this guy's tenacious. He's two nations. So tonight and every time, you know, kind of building up this army of allies. A lot of people in the Temple Mount move at a lot of of religious Jews who want who see a third temple and Israel's future really have aligned with Jim Butterfield and weren't hunting succeed. Nothing has ever been found from the interior of the first or second temple. We appointing. Exterior evidence from the temples. Now, the retaining walls are still there. We have things that a stone that marks the place of trumpeting, we have priestly weights and scales. We we do we have things, but we don't have. So certainly, you know, there's no denying the existence of the Jewish temple. But because of two thousand years of invaders and ocupation in Jerusalem being destroyed and rebuilt back up, and because we can't excavate on the Temple Mount, there's really nothing from from the ritual vessels or their religious Esso's that we have. There was one tiny pomegranate that was found that was believed to be on the end of a priestly sceptre, and it had an inscription that said from the house of y'all way or in the house of galley, and it has been proved to be a forgery, which brings us back to the show in terms of what we can sort of the banner that the Temple Mount movement can March under. That they would love for Jim Barfield to be successful. So he really has sort of this this religious cohort of allies that has had campaigned around him. But but just yes for years was knocking on on the wrong doors and really getting nowhere in terms of as being quickies authority approving a permit, which the archaeologists that we worked with really couldn't even understand it said he'd never been denied a permit for something like that before because it was not invasive it wasn't threatening to the ruin especially when we were able to get a hold of the Lorenzo, which is a much better metal detector. So it was really a frustrating time.

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

09:15 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"That angel's wings, stretched out over the ARC's pure gold cover the mercy seat, and a lot of people feel that even more important than the ark it self and the construction of the ark it self is that 'cause it's actually rather small ark. According to the bible, there's a little bit of discrepancy here. But it was about four feet long and two and a half feet deep. It's pretty small, but inside of it was placed the Moses the tablets of stone with the ten commandments. And so you can see that, you know, two ways in terms of what what's more important or the ark it self or or what it contains? No, you know, like I said that the covers girl doesn't ever physically reference. The ark of the covenant. According to some translations, it does reference gleaming chamber and one part of the copper scroll. It may be the earliest reference to Shuki. No, which is that the spirit of God. It's really we don't have any other older references to that specific word. And usually when Safina's reference it's talking about the spirit of God in reference to the ark of the covenant. I love what the caller pointed out. And I am familiar with the winner of that of the Ted award and amazing things are happening in our galaxy right now and one thing that an Israeli archaeologist told me, you know, we had suffered from for years in terms of applying for this permit to do the scan and really not understanding why Jim Barfield wasn't able to get it. I mean, he he wasn't applying for himself to do the scan. He was working with established archaeologist who were off also baffled. But one of them told me, look, we're sitting here applying for this permit when and going through the old process and the procedure that exists now to do these things but truth be told. Stands can be done from the sky. Now, you know, how how how're any antiquities authority's going to be able to control the future in terms of that scans can be done from satellites in from other pieces of technology. So that really is will just be the next chapter in archaeology. We're still playing by the old rules and the and trying to apply for these things and going through that process, but but really we can do scans through satellites now. And so that's that's the future of this. What about Dow's? Let's go back to some old technology Dow's so Jim hasn't participated in that. But then dole Jones dead. I don't know if he had much luck with it Mendel Jones. Well, he didn't because he's passed away looked for thirty years. But that was actually the next place. He was going. There was a person professor actually out of Missouri. Who was a doubt? He he contacted Jim Barfield and so just to test that Jim Butterfield dead. He had bars of silver because he he used he tested his own. Our worst fear once more. If they go in the number of Knesset had volunteered to do a scan on his own at Koran was to get a false positive. You know, a false positive is more dangerous than a false negative in that way. And so he buried bars of silver and untested the Loretta metal detector that way. But he also did it once with basically, it was it was a it was a doubter and buried them in a park, and and and and it didn't work then it didn't work and in that case and in that context and it didn't work for downs either. Let's go east of the Rockies is it Helena in New Jersey. Helena did morning. Yes. I wanna thank you for taking my call. And Michelle we wanna thank you very much. For most interesting presentation, I myself have a doctorate biblical studies. And I studied the Dead Sea scrolls for almost a year under bar. Karen shiffman. I don't know if you know him, of course, he's alleged. Yes. Well, I must tell you every whenever I come to Israel. I come to three times a year, and I'm really mentioned his name. They can't do enough for me at the at the museum. And I also want to thank you very much for mentioning two gentlemen that I know very, well, namely Moshe Fagin, and I work for his I do volunteer work for his party. And but I think you should clarify that he wasn't arrested for just going up to the Temple Mount. Right. Can you clarify that for us? Because I I would love to hear from you first of all I have certain prohibitions. And unfortunately as much as I personally would like to go to Temple Mount, this is one of the reasons I don't go because the restrictions you have to walk a certain a along a certain path, you constantly watched especially if goes the Jewish faith now, I have I know I go Israel with groups that when they go up there, their passports a comp. Escape and they're watched like hawks. And when they returned they're giving their passports. We'll say you're not allowed to enter to Ida prayers. Obviously, Mr. Fagan. Well off the path. And when I say off the path of obviously, he did attempt to pray up there and one time I believe was two years ago. He actually went into the mosque. The I hate to say this. But he actually started a little demonstration within the mosque with various members of his party. And in fact, at the time, he was banned from ascending the Temple Mount at all. But being as you said, he's in the Knesset. He managed to overturn the ban Halloween. I would just have a couple of minutes before the break. Here was did you have any comments on on a coup? Iran is a possible location for the. It's an area say, I don't think it is. And why not? I know I personally go with various groups to come run whenever I visit Israel. And you as right by there is technically a checkpoint. But you probably blaze right by it. Right. I mean, it's not this isn't an area that any sort of right-thinking person believes that Israel would ever give up especially because of Koran but for the most part is uninhabited area. It's not it's it's not important, but there's a couple of complex there. But. Yes. It's it's spiritually valuable to Israel. And I don't think that Israel, whatever give it up and go she ation, but. Areas West Bank. It's separately not areas. Seek why do you okay? Yeah. Okay. Under the under the antiquities laws. They refer to it as it's under the ADC, which is the archaeological department under anything that's considered in Judea and Samaria. Is under there. It's already in Kumaon is under there already. It's not under the Israel antiquities at thirty every since sixty seven all right, Helene. Thank you for the call. Interesting. Interesting perspective there from Halina. If I mean, what is standing in the way now for them to at least start doing some some careful probing or or or or trenching in in in Kumaon. Right. So in twenty twelve whom Ron was declared a they use actually Jewish sort of biblical terminology for this thing that the land would be experiences. Schmidt. So it would every seven years in the bible e that the land is supposed to to rest, and so they actually declared that for home run that they're really itself would rest that. No archaeological. Excavations would be allowed at Koran and for the most part there's been some excavations in the cemeteries around Coomer on. But for the most part they've held to that every since then so supposed to I thought at the time everyone thought just last for a year, but it's actually lasted until now and the shumita should be over the sheer then. Yes..

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

13:26 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"In with the Sabbath and with laws of the Torah. But also is a believer in Jesus. And so he kind of occupies both orbits. He's a little bit of a religious chameleon in that way that when he's with a group of Jews that he speaks the language of tour and of what's important to to religious Jews. But he also is is great with Christian audiences. So I see him kind of navigate both of those worlds and do it. Well because both are important to him. At this point. Is there this technology exists to do sort of ground penetrating imaging? Can they see what's under the ground? Right. So the technology has has come a long way like you reference oak island every time that they had a while. They always just get a new grand piece of technology to keep the pot moving. But what is what was the problem fifty years ago is that even when there were a metal detector, even when metal detecting technology existed? This is the Dead Sea area, so the soil there is mineralized in a very different way than any other place in the world. And so so metal detectors just gave false positives or we're able to read the soil and the right way. And so for then the beginning when Koran was excavated metal detectors weren't very useful. Jim barfield? One part is that so ground penetrating radar has been done at Combe run. But not for what we were looking for in the copper scroll because the coppers grow. This is it's it's where occupies some space between this isn't traditional archaeology archaeology things down to the last level of habitation. And when that's reached you stop the copper school is asking you to dig nine to twelve feet deeper than that. And to dig for something that was buried, so it's it's a really unnatural process for archaeologists to to pursue that. And so the ground penetrating radar that had been done does show voids at Combe on. It does show that there are underground sort of storage areas. Random priced from liberty university had done a lot of that work on the Koran plateau, and he too has found voids there that that he hasn't been able to excavate some of them cut into a cliff there. It's like a very steep Wadi that drops right at the edge of Kumaon. So you have to be careful even an excavating caves or anything in that area because it's very collapsible. So we did get our hands on a Lorenzo deep max metal detector, which is probably the best metal detector for that region. A white smell detector is is strong. But the this is a ten thousand dollar metal detector when you add in the technology between being able to read the scans. But and it's a cute. It's a cute that you drag and it can tell the difference between ferrous and nonferrous metals second tell the difference. You know, we're looking for gold silver bronze or something else, and it can give some indication of size, and which is really what had to be done for the copper scroll. And what did it reveal? Well, so for years, so. I have the backup little in two thousand nine and this is just a crazy sort of chronology of events that even JIMBO our food was able to do this. But he was able to get a meeting with the authority and to excavate at three of the sites that were listed in his research, which how this Oklahoma's and investigator was able to get a meeting with the Israel antiquities authority and much less for them to to want to test and probe his research is you know, as tell them within itself. But he was able to do it. And so what became clear in that process is that the copper school with sixty locations. And so if you dig all over Kumaon at that, kind of depth and sixty different sites. You'll have you'll destroy Koran in the process you'll end up making Komen look like an app close shot of the moon, craters everywhere. And so even though he had specific research that pointed cystic places whom Ryan as a sacred site in and of itself to Israel and to the religious community. And so he had to be really careful, and so it became clear that doing nine foot probes income Ron proper was not ideal. And and so for many years, he applied after that dig that dig was abruptly shut down for reasons that that I can speculate on, but that we don't know for sure. And so and that archaeologist that had been in charge of the day, and who had really believed in Jim Barfield research, and he was the number two person in command of coumarin from an archaeological level he actually died and. A tragic cave accident. Not so long after and so it really kind of brought everything to a to a halt. And for whatever reason the Israel antiquity authority denied permission to do an electronic scan of come on and for years it sat that way for years. Jim Barfield was applying. He was finding new archaeologists. He was writing new reports meeting with new leaders sometimes waiting out people to retire in the antiquities authority. And so he returned Israel's something like sixteen times sixteen times. Right. Exactly. So contentious he's tenacious so tonight and every time, you know, kind of building up this army of allies. A lot of people in the Temple Mount move at a lot of religious Jews who who want who see third temple in Israel's future really have aligned with Jim Butterfield. And I want him to succeed. Nothing has ever been found from the interior of the first or second temple. We putting. Exterior evidence from the temples. Now, they're retaining walls are still there. We have things that I still that marks the place of trumpeting we have previously weights and scales. We we do we have things, but we don't have. So certainly, you know, there's no denying the existence of the Jewish temple. But because of two thousand years of invaders and ocupation in Jerusalem being destroyed and rebuilt back up, and because we can't excavate on the Temple Mount, there's really nothing from from the ritual vessels or their religious that we have. There was one tiny pomegranate that was found that was believed to be on the end of a priestly sceptre, and it had an inscription that said from the house of y'all way or in the house of Galway, and it has been proved to be a forgery, which brings us back to the ro in terms of what we can sort of the banner that the Temple Mount movement in March under the. They would love for Jim Murphy to be successful. So he really has sort of this this religious cohort of allies that has have championed around him. But but just yes for years with knocking on on the wrong doors and really getting nowhere in terms of of the antiquities authority approving a permit, which the archaeologists that we worked with really couldn't even understand it said he'd never been denied a permit for something like that before because it was non invasive it wasn't threatening to the ruin especially when we were able to get a hold of the Lorenzo, which is a much better metal detector. So is is really a frustrating time period. He I understand he even met with a member of the modern day, San Hedren. Yes, he met with the whole fan hindred. So right twice. And they and he presented his whole research. She has a he's a report writer for. Comanche nation college in Oklahoma. And so after he retired from arson investigation. He actually taught report writing community college. But anyways, he wrote his I mean, you should see his report is two hundred and sixty five pages filled with maps and descriptions and two translations, and and, you know, graphic images of the copper scroll. And it's a it's a pretty amazing piece of work in and of itself. And so he always he's bringing it to these meetings. And so he presented the San he joined with his research. He's presented lots of people in Israel with his research. All who seems it to, you know, just their heads in disbelief thinking that the answers then there this whole time that Koran has helped us secret the whole time. And so that's he's gone up. Their religious ladder ties. It can go right? So is it is it a a stubborn bureaucracy? Is it a fear that by unearth? Thing. These these treasures that it will somehow ignite political disputes land claims ignited, I dunno a Middle East war. What is the fear here? What's at stake? Probably yes. To all of those technically by Israel's archaeological laws Kumaon is areas. See which means that Koran is not Israel proper in. In should is peace process ever be reunited coumarin would be under negotiation or that area of Israel negotiation and potentially part of a new Palestinian state. And so by international international that the Geneva Convention standards. Whatever comes out of that area, whatever's on earth, and and excavations in that area is disputed property because the land is disputed, and so Israel, actually when I say, the is that he was working with the thirty that's not entirely true because it's a military wing of the equity is its own institution. And technically when something is found in that area. It has to it can be studied. And it can be researched and published by the archaeologists or the scholar that found it. But it goes in the military warehouse afterwards until the land is no longer in the dispute so that part of Indiana Jones is fair and accurate that that this would technically be boxed up in a crate with a stamp Parker covenant. So in some ways, maybe. See there being wise. Maybe the antiquities that argue smart, and and and and the same ways that we do this and other parts of the world, you know, that there are other terracotta soldiers in China, and that they're saving them to be excavated at a future date when we know that the paint will immediately come off of them, or, you know, in Egypt with the pyramids that we know that are void. But maybe you Wade out a better technology that can contest that that earned more accurately. So there other Welby other international examples playing the waiting game without geology and waiting out the process, and for the technology to advance and Israel's case, it's the, you know, what they might be waiting out the political conversation, and then standards, and in that case, you know, maybe it's a wise move certainly a lot of Israel's struggle is. Always you know, if if something is pulled out of the ground if it is the covenant or the. Alternate. Vincent. Will immediately be conspiracies that that they faked that you know, that that it wasn't real that Israel's just doing this to lay moorland claims. And so I think that there's there's a lot there, but two different time in Israel and Israel's acting boulder now that it had been even just with the previous administration in America. And so I think that we we might be in a new day just in terms of Israel's guts to do something. Like this just very quickly. We're heading into a break. Does Jim Barfield belief that the ark of the covenant is beneath these ruins and Kumar. He does he actually believes it's in a cave outside of Iran. And after the break, I'll tell you why we know that something is there. All right. Let's let's do that on the other side will also open up the phone lines and take questions and comments for Shelley niece. The author of the copper scroll project an ancient secret fuels the battle for the Temple Mount now taking his into the brake. Rod Stewart's version of ood LA LA covered by rod in thousand nine hundred ninety eight and tribute to the recently deceased, Ronnie lane, a former bandmate.

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

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14:51 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

"Weather eleven ninety AM depend on us k acts. We're back with Shelly niece. We're talking about the copper scroll project and of the few and I'm cribbing here from Shelly nieces website of the few who have risked their careers and reputations to search for copper, scroll treasures only one remains. He's an unlikely hero of firemen from Oklahoma and award winning investigator named Jim Barfield who treated the copper, scroll like evidence in an arson case and came to an astonishing realization all of the locations described in the copper, scroll have exact architectural matches with Coomer on this rather unimpressive ruin perched on the plateau just off the coast of Israel's Dead Sea. At what point does Jim actually traveled to Israel to test. His theory. Good question. So he really it was after he identified the first twenty locations. It's not that you know, he never says that God told him that the copper scroll treasure was here. He never sort of lays down any Trump cards. But he just kept at it. I mean, he's just a person who wants he gets hold of a threat. He's gonna follow it all the way through. So it was once he identified the first twenty locations in the copper, scroll and saw that they all had architectural matches in Qom Ron that is when he had to get on a plane and go and see it in person himself, and and sort of walk the copper scroll on the ground at coumarin because for one he also didn't know if he couldn't tell what the flooring was was like either. So you know, he might be able to match up ritual immersion pools are great. Cisterns or peristyle courtyard with all things listed in the copper scroll. But what he didn't know is is if he could if anybody would be able to break through that ground, or if it would be threatening to ruin itself, and so he flew there with his wife, and that was the first time he had ever been to Israel was to see copper, squirrel. Translation, was correct. And what was his motivation was he a treasure seeker was this a spiritual quest. So no, he is it was definitely spiritual. He says, and and I really after knowing him for a decade. I I know that this is true that he just wants these items to be found and returned to Israel, and he has no ulterior motives, he he considers this to be Israel's Israel's birthright, or you know, her. There's no other there. There's no other motive, and it's also not as if anyone would be able to establish any monetary value on these things anyways. Now, he is a really religious man and very. Very strict keeping in with the Sabbath and with laws of the Torah. But also is a believer in Jesus. And so he kind of occupies both orbits. He's a little bit of a religious chameleon in that way that when he's with a group of Jews that he speaks the language of tour and of what's important to to religious Jews. But he also is is great with Christian audiences. So I see him kind of navigate both of those worlds and do it. Well because both are important to him. At this point. Is there does the technology exists to do sort of ground penetrating imaging? Can they see what's under the ground? Right. So the technology has has come a long way like you reference oak island. You know, every time that they hit a wall. They always just getting new grand piece of technology to keep the plot moving. But what is what was the problem fifty years ago is that even when there were metal detectors, even when metal detecting technology existed? This is the Dead Sea area, so the soil there is mineralized in a very different way than any other place in the world. And so so metal detectors just gave false positives or we're able to read the soil and the right way. And so for then the beginning when Koran was excavated metal detectors weren't very useful. Jim barfield? One part is that so ground penetrating radar has been done at Combe run. But not for what we were looking for in the copper scroll because the conference girl. This is it's it's where it occupies some space between this isn't traditional archaeology traditional archaeology things down to the last level of habitation. And when that's reached you stop the copper school is asking you to dig nine to twelve feet deeper than that. And to dig for something that was buried, so it's it's a really a natural process for archaeologists to to pursue that. And so the ground penetrating radar that had been done does show voids at Combe Ron does show that there are underground sort of storage areas. Random priced from liberty university had done a lot of that work on the Koran plateau, and and he too has found void stare that. That he hasn't been able to excavate some of them cut into a cliff. There's like a very steep Wadi that drops right at the edge of Koran. So you have to be careful even an excavating ks or anything in that area because it's very collapsible. So we did get our hands on a Lorenzo deep max metal detector, which is probably the best metal detector for that region. A white smell detector is is strong. But that that's we're ends. This is a ten thousand dollar metal detector when you add in technology between being able to read the scans. But and it's a cube. It's a cute that you drag and it can tell the difference between ferrous and nonferrous metals second tell the difference. You know, we're looking for gold silver bronze or something else, and it can give some indication of size, and which is really what had to be done for the copper scroll. And what did it reveal? Well, so for years, so. I have to back it up a little in two thousand nine and this is just a crazy sort of chronology of events that even able to do this. But he was able to get a meeting with the equities at thirty and to excavate at three of the sites that were listed in his research, which how this Oklahoma's and investigator was able to get a meeting with the Israel antiquities authority and much less for them to to want to test and probe his research is you know, as a as tell them within itself. But he was able to do it. And so what became clear in that process is that the copper scoreless sixty locations. And so if you dig all over Kumaon at that kind of debt and sixty different sites. You'll have you'll destroy Koran in the process, you'll end up making Koran look like an outpost side of the moon, you know, just craters everywhere. And so even though he had specific research that pointed to specific places coom Ron is a sacred site in and of itself to Israel and to the religious community. And so he had to be really careful, and so it became clear that doing nine foot probes income Ron proper was not ideal. And and so for many years, he applied after that dig that dig was abruptly shut down for reasons that. That I can speculate on, but that we don't know for sure. And so and not archaeologist that had been in charge of the day, and who had really believed in gem Barfield research, and he was the number two person in command of coumarin from an archaeological level he actually died in a tragic cave accident. Not so long after and so it really kind of brought everything to to a halt. And for whatever reason the Israel antiquity authority denied permission to do an electronic scan of come on and for years it sat that way for years. Jim Barfield was applying. He was finding new archaeologists. He was writing new reports meeting with new readers sometimes waiting out people to retire in the antiquities authority. And so he returned Israel's something like sixteen times. Right. Sixteen times. Right. Exactly. So this guy's tenacious. He's two nations so Taneja and every time, you know, kind of building up this army of allies. A lot of people in the Temple Mount move at a lot of of religious Jews who who want who see a third temple and Israel's future really have aligned with Jim Butterfield and succeed nothing has ever been found from the interior of the first or second temple. We appointing. Exterior evidence from the temples. Now, they're retaining walls are still there. We have things that a stone that marks the place of trumpeting priestly weights and scales that we do we have things, but we don't have. So certainly, you know, there's no denying the existence of the Jewish temple. But because of two thousand years of invaders ocupation in Jerusalem being destroyed and rebuilt back up, and because we can't excavate on the Temple Mount, there's really nothing from from the ritual vessels or their religious that we have. There was one tiny pomegranate that was found that was believed to be on the end of a priestly sceptre, and it had an inscription that said from the house of y'all way or in the house of Galway, and it has been proved to be a forgery, which brings us back to zero in terms of what we can sort of the banner that the Temple Mount movement can March under. They would love for Jim Barfield to be successful. So he really has sort of this this religious cohort of allies that has championed around him. But but just yes for years was knocking on on the wrong doors and really getting nowhere in terms of of the antiquities authority approving a permit, which the archaeologists that we worked with really couldn't even understand it said he had never been denied a permit for something like that before because it was not invasive wasn't threatening to ruin especially when we were able to get a hold of the Wren's, which is a much better metal detector. So is really a frustrating time period. He understand he even met with a member of the modern day, send Hedren. Yes. He met with the whole fan Hendrid. So right twice. And they and he presented his whole research has a he's a report writer for Comanche nation college in Oklahoma. And so after he retired from I investigation. He actually taught report writing at a community college. But anyways, he wrote his I mean, you should see his report is two hundred and sixty five pages filled with naps and descriptions and translations, and and, you know, graphic images of the conference grow. And it's a it's a pretty amazing piece of work in and of itself. And so he always he's bringing it to these meetings. And so he presented the San he joined with his research. He's presented lots of people in Israel with his research. All who seems it to, you know, just their heads in disbelief thinking that the answers then there this whole time that Koran has held the secret the whole time. And so that's. He's gone up the religious high highs it can go, right? So is it is it a a stubborn bureaucracy? Is it a fear that by unearthing? These these treasures that it will somehow ignite political disputes land claims ignited, I dunno a Middle East war. What is the fear here? What's at stake? He'll probably yes. To all of those technically by Israel's archaeological laws home, Ron is areas. See which means that Koran is not Israel proper in. In should is your peace process ever be re knighted Kumaon would be under negotiation or that area of Israel negotiation and potentially part of a new Palestinian state. And so by international. International the Geneva, Convention standards. Whatever comes out of that area, whatever's on earth, and and excavations in that area is disputed property because the land is disputed, and so Israel, actually when I say, the is that he was working with the equities Atari that's not entirely true because it's a military weaned on its own institution. And technically when something is found in that area. It has to it can be studied. And it can be researched and published by the archaeologist or the scholar that sounded, but it goes into a military warehouse afterwards until the land is no longer in dispute. So that part of Indiana Jones is is fair and accurate that that this would technically be boxed up in crate with this fan park, a covenant. So in some ways. Maybe they're being wise. Maybe the antiquities that argue smart, and and and and the same ways that we do this and other parts of the world, you know, that there are other terracotta soldiers in China, and that they're saving them to be excavated at a future date when we know that the paint wall immediately come off of them, or you know, in Egypt. The pyramids that we know that are void. But maybe you Wade out a better technology that can contest that that earned more accurately..

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

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15:00 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"That's D. I R E C T. Two seven nine six four five. We're back with Shelly niece. We're talking about the copper scroll project and of the few and cribbing here from Shelly nieces website of the few who have risked their careers and reputations to search for copper, scroll treasures only one remains. He's an unlikely hero of firemen from Oklahoma and award winning investigator named Jim Barfield who treated the copper, scroll like evidence in an arson case and came to an astonishing realization all of the locations described in the copper, scroll have exact architecture matches with Coomer on this rather unimpressive ruined perched on a plateau just off the coast of Israel's Dead Sea at what point does Jim actually traveled to Israel to test his theory. Good question. So he really it was after he identified the first twenty locations. It's not the. That you know, he never says that the God told him that the copper scroll treasure was here. He never sort of lays down any Trump cards. But he just kept at it. I mean, he's just a person who once he gets hold of it threat. He's gonna follow it all the way through. So it was once he identified the first twenty locations, and the copper scroll and saw that they all had architectural matches in Ron that is when he had to get on a plane and go and see it in person himself, and and sort of walk the copper scroll on the ground at coumarin because for one he also didn't know if he couldn't tell what the flooring was was like either. So you know, he might be able to match up ritual. Immersion pools are great cisterns or tear styles are courtyard with all things listed in the copper scroll. But what he didn't know is is if he could if. If anybody would be able to break through that ground, or if it would be threatening to ruin itself, and so he flew there with his wife, and that was the first time he had ever been to Israel was to see. Copper scroll translations was correct. And what was his motivation was he a treasure seeker was this a spiritual quest. So no, he is it was definitely spiritual. He says, and and I really after knowing him for a decade. I know that this is true that he just wants these items to be found and returned to Israel, and he has no ulterior motives, he he considers this to be Israel's Israel's birthright, or you know, her. There's no other there. There's no other motive, and it's also not as if anyone would be able to establish any monetary value on these things. Anyway, now, he is a really religious man and very. Very strict keeping in with the Sabbath and with laws of the Torah. But also is believer in Jesus. And so he kind of occupies both orbits. He's a little bit of a religious chameleon in that way that when he's with a group of Jews that he speaks the language of tour and of what's important to to religious Jews. But he also is is great with Christian audiences. So I see him kind of navigate both of those worlds and do it. Well because both are important to him. At this point. Is there this technology exists to do sort of ground penetrating imaging? Can they see what's under the ground? Right. So the technology has has come a long way like you reference oak island. You know, every time that they hit a wall. They always just get a new grand piece of technology to keep the pot moving. But what is what was the problem fifty years ago is that even when there were metal detectors, even when metal detecting technology existed? This is the Dead Sea area, so the soil there is mineralized in a very different way than any other place in the world. And so so metal detectors just gave false positives or we're able to read the soil and the right way. And so for then the beginning when Koran was excavated metal detectors weren't very useful. Jim barfield? One part is that so ground penetrating radar has been done at Coolum run. But not for what we were looking for in the copper scroll because the coppers girl. This is where it occupies some space between this isn't traditional archaeology archaeology digs down to the last level of habitation. And when that's reached you stop the copper school is asking you to dig nine to twelve feet deeper than that. And to dig for something that was buried, so it's it's a really a natural process for archaeologists to to pursue that. And so the ground penetrating radar that had been done does show Boyd's at Combe Ron does show that there are underground sort of storage areas. Randall priced from liberty university had done a lot of that work on a plateau. And and he too has found voids there that that he hasn't been able to excavate some of them cut into a cliff there. It's like a very steep Wadi that drops right at the edge of Kumaon. So you have to be careful even an excavating caves or anything in that area because it's very collapsible. So we did get our hands on a Lorenzo Di max metal detector, which is probably the best metal detector for that region. A white smell detector is is strong. But the this this is a ten thousand dollar metal detector when you add in the technology between being able to read the scans. But and it's a cute. It's a cute that you drag and it can tell the difference between ferrous and nonferrous metals tell the difference. You know, if we're looking for gold, silver bronze or something else, and it can give some indication of size and depth, which is really what he had to be done for the copper scroll. And what did it reveal? Well, so for years, so. I have to back up a little in two thousand nine and this is just a crazy sort of chronology of events that even Jim barcode was able to do this. But he was able to get a meeting with the equities at thirty and to excavate at three of the sites that were listed in his research, which powder, this Oklahoma's and investigator was able to get a meeting with the Israel antiquities authority and much less for them to to want to test and probe his research is you know, is tell them within itself. But he was able to do it. And so what became clear in that process is that the copper scoreless sixty locations. And so if you dig all over Kumaon at that kind of debt in sixty different sites. You'll have you'll destroy Koran in the process you'll end up making Koran look like an up close side of the moon, you know, just craters everywhere. And so even though he had specific research that pointed to specific places whom Ryan is a sacred site in and of itself to Israel and to the religious community. And so he had to be really careful, and so it became clear that doing nine foot probes income Ron proper was not ideal. And and so for many years, he applied after that dig that dick was abruptly shut down for reasons that that I can speculate on, but we don't know for sure. And so and that archaeologist that had been in charge of the day, and who had really believed in gem Barfield research, and he was the number two person in command of coumarin from an archaeological level he actually died in. A tragic cave accident. Not so long after and so it really kind of brought everything to a to a halt. And for whatever reason the Israel antiquity authority denied permission to do an electronic scan of Koran and for years it sat that way for years. Jim Barfield was applying. He was finding new archaeologists. He was writing new reports meeting with new leaders sometimes waiting out people to retire in the antiquities authority. And so he returned Israel's something like sixteen times. Right. Sixteen times. Right. Exactly. So contentious eastern, Asia's so tomatoes, and every time, you know, kind of building up this army of allies. A lot of people in the Temple Mount move at a lot of religious Jews who who want who see third temple in Israel's future really have aligned with Jim Butterfield and want him to succeed. Nothing has ever been found from the interior of the first or second temple. We appointing. Exterior evidence from the temples. Now, the retaining walls are still there. We have things that a stone that marks the place of trumpeting, we have previously weights and scales that we do we have things, but we don't have. So certainly, you know, there's no denying the existence of the Jewish temple. But because of two thousand years of invaders and occupations in Jerusalem being destroyed and rebuilt back up, and because we can't excavate on the Temple Mount, there's really nothing from from the ritual vessels or their religious those that we have there was one tiny pomegranate that was found that was believed to be on the end of a priestly sceptre, and it had an inscription that said from the house of y'all layer the valley. And has been proved to be a forgery, which brings us back to zero in terms of what we can sort of the banner that the Temple Mount movement in March under the they would love for Jim Butterfield to be successful. So he really has sort of this this religious cohort of allies that has has championed around him. But. But just yes for years with knocking on on the wrong doors and really getting nowhere in terms of of the antiquities authority approving a permit, which the archaeologists that we worked with really couldn't even understand it said he'd never been denied a permit for something like that before because it was non invasive wasn't threatening to the ruin especially when we were able to get a hold of the Lorenzo, which is a much better metal detector. So is is really a frustrating time period. He I understand he even met with a member of the modern day, send Hedren. Yes. He met with the whole fan hindred. So right twice. And they and he presented his whole research. He has a he's a report writer for Comanche nation college in Oklahoma. And so after he retired from arson investigation. He actually taught report writing community college. But anyways, he wrote his I mean, you should see his report is two hundred and sixty five pages filled with maps and descriptions and translations, and and, you know, graphic images of the copper scroll. It just it's a it's a pretty amazing piece of work in and of itself. And so he always he's bringing it to these meetings. And so he presented the San he joined with his research. He's presented lots of people in Israel with his research. All who seems it to, you know, just something heads in disbelief thinking that the answers then there this whole time that Koran has held the secret the whole time. And so that's. He's gone up. The religious ladder ties. I can go right? So is it is it a a stubborn bureaucracy is it's a fear that by unearthing. These these treasures that it will somehow ignite political disputes land claims ignited a Middle East war. What is the fear here? What's at stake? So probably yes. To all of those technically by Israel's archaeological laws whom Ron is areas. See which means that Koran is not Israel proper. In should is peace process ever be reunited Kumaon would be under negotiation or that area of Israel negotiation and potentially part of a new Palestinian state. And so by international international, the Caen that Geneva Convention standards. Whatever comes out of that area, whatever's on earth, and and excavations in that area is disputed property because the land is disputed, and so Israel, actually when I say, the is that he was working with the thirty that's not entirely true because it's a military wing of the is on its own institution. And. And technically when something is found in that area. It has to it can be studied. And it can be researched and published by the archaeologist or the scholar that founded, but it goes into military warehouse afterwards until the land is no longer in dispute. So that part of Indiana Jones is fair and accurate that that this would technically be boxed up in a crate with a sampler. So in some ways, maybe they're being wise. Maybe the antiquities argue smart, and and and and the same ways that we do this and other parts of the world, you know, that there are other soldiers in China, and that they're saving them to be excavated at a future date when we know that the paint wall immediately come off of them, or you know, in Egypt. The pyramids that we know that their voice, but maybe you Wade out a better technology that can contest that that earned more accurately..

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on News Radio 690 KTSM

News Radio 690 KTSM

13:58 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on News Radio 690 KTSM

"Or five. Pasos NewsRadio six ninety Katie. We're back with Shelly niece. We're talking about the copper scroll project and of the few am cribbing here from Shelly nieces website of the few who have risked their careers and reputations to search for copper, scroll treasures only one remains. He's an unlikely hero of firemen from Oklahoma and ward winning investigator named Jim Barfield who treated the copper, scroll like evidence in an arson case and came to an astonishing realization all of the locations described in the copper, scroll have exact architectural matches with Coomer on this rather unimpressive ruined perched on a plateau just off the coast of Israel's Dead Sea at what point does Jim actually traveled to Israel to test his theory. Good question. So he really it was after he identified the first twenty locations. It's not that you know, he never says. And that the God told him that the copper scroll treasure was here. He never sort of lays down any Trump cards. But he just kept at it. I mean, he's just a person who once he gets hold of a threat. He's gonna follow it all the way through. So it was once he identified the first twenty locations, and the copper scroll and saw that they all had architectural matches in Qom, Ron. That is when he had to get on a plane and go and see it in person himself, and and sort of walk the copper, scroll on the ground at Ron because for one he also didn't know if he couldn't tell what the flooring was was like either. So you know, he might be able to match up ritual immersion pools are great cisterns or peristyle courtyard with all things listed in the copper scroll. But what he didn't know if he could if anybody would be able to break through that ground, or if it would be threatening to ruin itself, and so he flew there with his wife, and that was the first time he had ever been to Israel was to see copper squall. Translation, was correct. And what was his motivation was he a treasure seeker or was this a spiritual quest? So no, he is it was definitely spiritual. He said, and I really after knowing him for a decade. I I know that this is true that he just wants to eat. I don't see be found and returned to Israel, and he has no ulterior motives, he he considers this to be Israel's Israel's birthright, or you know, her. There's no other there. There's no other motive, and it's also not as if anyone would be able to establish any monetary value on these things anyways. Now, he is a really religious man and very. Very strict keeping in with the Sabbath and with laws of the Torah. But also is a believer in Jesus. And so he kind of occupies both orbits. I he's a little bit of a religious chameleon in that way that when he's with a group of Jews that he speaks the language of tour and of what's important to to religious Jews. But he also is is great with Christian audiences. So I see him kind of navigate both of those worlds and do it. Well because both are important to him. At this point. Is there this technology exists to do sort of ground penetrating imaging? Can they see what's under the ground? Right. So the technology has has come a long way like you reference oak island. You know, every time that they hit a wall. They always just get a new grand piece of technology to keep the pot moving. But what is what was the problem fifty years ago is that even when there were metal detectors, even when metal detecting technology existed? This is the Dead Sea area, so the soil there is mineralized in a very different way than any other place in the world. And so so metal detectors just gave false positives or we're able to read the soil and the right way. And so for the beginning when Ron was excavated metal detectors weren't very useful. Jim barfield? One part is that so ground penetrating radar has been done at coom run. But not for what we were looking for in the copper scroll because the copper girl. This is it's it's where it occupies some space between this isn't traditional archaeology archaeology digs down to the last level of habitation. And when that's reached you stop. The copper school is asking you to dig nine to twelve feet deeper than that. And to dig for something that was buried, so it's it's a really a natural process for archaeologists to to pursue that. And so the ground penetrating radar that had been done does show Boyd's at Combe Ron does show that there are underground sort of storage areas rental price from liberty university had done a lot of that work on the Koran plateau, and he too has found void stare that. That he hasn't been able to excavate some of them cut into a cliff. There's like a very steep Wadi that dropped right at the edge of Quran. So you have to be careful even an excavating caves or anything in that area because it's very collapsible. So we did get our hands on a Lorenzo Di max metal detector, which is probably the best metal detector for that region. A white smell detector is is strong. But that this is a ten thousand dollar metal detector when you add in the technology between being able to read the scans. But and it's a cute. It's a cute that you drag and it can tell the difference between ferrous and nonferrous metals second tell the difference. You know, we're looking for gold silver bronze or something else? And it can give some indication of size and depth, which is really what had to be done for the copper scroll. And what did it reveal? Well, so for years, so. I have to back it up a little in two thousand nine and this is just a crazy sort of chronology of events that even Jim barcode was able to do this. But he was able to get a meeting with the equities at thirty and to excavate at three of the sites that were listed in his research, which how this Oklahoma arson investigator was able to get a meeting with the Israel antiquities authority and much less for them to to want to test and probe his research is, you know, as a as a tell them with it at self, but he was able to do it. And so what became clear in that process? Is that? The copper scoreless sixty locations. And so if you gig all over Kumaon that kind of debt and sixty different sites. You'll have you'll destroy Koran in the process you'll end up making Koran look like an up close shot of the moon, craters everywhere. And so even though he had specific research that pointed to specific places coom Ron as a sacred site in and of itself to Israel and to the religious community. And so he had to be really careful, and so it became clear that doing nine foot probes income Ron proper was not ideal. And and so for many years, he applied after that dig that dig was abruptly shut down for reasons that that I can speculate on, but we don't know for sure. And so and not archaeologist that had been in charge of the day, and who had really believed in Denver fields research, and he was the number two person in command of Kumaon from an archaeological level he actually died and. A tragic cave accident. Not so long after and so it really kind of brought everything to a to a halt. And for whatever reason the Israel antiquity authority denied permission to do an electronic scan of come on and for years it sat that way for years. Jim Barfield was applying. He was finding new archaeologists. He was writing new reports meeting with new leaders sometimes waiting out people to retire in the integrity is the thirty. And so he returned Israel something like sixteen times. Right sixteen times. Right. Exactly. So this guy's tenacious. He's Taneja so tonight and every time, you know, kind of building up this army of allies. A lot of people in the Temple Mount move. A lot of a religious Jews who who want who see at third temple and Israel's future really have aligned with Jim Butterfield hunting for succeed. Nothing has ever been found from the interior of the first or second temple. We appointing. Exterior evidence from the temples. Now, the retaining walls are still there. We have things that a stone that marks the place of trumpeting we have previously weights and scales. We we do we have things, but we don't have. So certainly, you know, there's no denying the existence of the Jewish temple. But because of two thousand years of invaders and ocupation in Jerusalem being destroyed and rebuilt back up, and because we can't excavate on the Temple Mount, there's really nothing from from the ritual vessels or their religious that we have. There was one tiny pomegranate that was found that was believed to be on the end of a priestly sceptre, and it had an inscription that said from the house of y'all way or in the house of galley, and it has been proved to be a forgery, which brings us back to the show in terms of what we can sort of the banner that the Temple Mount movement in March under. That they would love for him Barfield to be successful. So he really has sort of this this religious cohort of allies that has championed around him. But but just yes for years with knocking on on the wrong doors and really getting nowhere in terms of of the antiquities authority approving a permit, which the archaeologists that we worked with really couldn't even understand it said he'd never been denied a permit for something like that before because it was not invasive wasn't threatening to the ruins, especially when we were able to get a hold of the Lorenzo, which is a much better metal detector. So it was really a frustrating time period. He he I understand he even met with a member of the modern day, send Hedren. Yes, he met with the whole fan hindred. So right twice. And they and he presented his whole research. He has a he's a report writer for. Comanche nation college in Oklahoma. And so after he retired from arson investigation. He actually taught report writing community college. But anyways, he wrote his I mean, you should see his report is two hundred sixty five pages filled with naps and descriptions and translations, and and, you know, graphic images of the copper scroll. And it's a it's a pretty amazing piece of work in and of itself. And so he always he's bringing it to these meetings. And so he presented the San he joined with his research. She's presented lots of people in Israel with his research. All who seems it to, you know, just something heads in disbelief thinking that the answers then there this whole time that Koran has held the secret the whole time. And so that's yeah. Yeah. He's gone up. The religious ladder as high as it can go, right? So is it is it a a stubborn bureaucracy is it's a fear that by unearthing. These these treasures that it will somehow ignite political disputes land claims ignited, I dunno a Middle East war. What is the fear here? What's at stake? He'll probably yes. To all of those technically by Israel's archaeological laws whom Ron is areas. See which means that Koran is not Israel proper in should Israel in peace process, ever be reunited Kumaon would be under negotiation or that area of Israel negotiation and potentially heart ever, new Palestinian state. And so by international. International that the Geneva Convention standards. Whatever comes out of that area, whatever's on earth, and and excavations in that area is disputed property because the land is disputed, and so Israel, actually when I say, the is that he was working with the authority that's not entirely true because it's a military weaned at the is on its own institution..

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

01:39 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"And for whatever reason the Israel antiquity authority denied permission to do an electronic scan of come on and for years it sat that way for years. Jim Barfield was applying. He was finding new archaeologists. He was writing new reports meeting with new readers sometimes waiting out people to retire in the antiquity authority. And so he returned Israel's something like sixteen times. Right. Sixteen times. Right. Exactly. So he's two nations. So tonight and every time, you know, kind of building up this army of allies. A lot of people in the Temple Mount move at a lot of religious Jews who who want who see a third temple and Israel's future really have aligned with Jim Butterfield and succeed nothing has ever been found from the interior of the first or second temple. We pretty. Exterior evidence from the temples. Now, they're retaining walls are still there. We have things that a stone that marks the place of trumpeting priestly weights and scales that we do we have things, but we don't have. So certainly, you know, there's no denying the existence of the Jewish temple. But because of two thousand years of invaders occupations in Jerusalem being destroyed and rebuilt back up, and because we can't excavate on the Temple Mount, there's really nothing from from the ritual vessels or.

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"jim butterfield" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

11:49 min | 3 years ago

"jim butterfield" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"D. I R E C T. Two seven nine six four five. We're back with Shelly niece. We're talking about the copper scroll project and of the few cribbing here from Shelly nieces website of the few who have risked their careers and reputations to search for copper, scroll treasures only one remains. He's an unlikely hero of firemen from Oklahoma and award winning investigator named Jim Barfield who treated the copper, scroll like evidence in an arson case and came to an astonishing realization all of the locations described in the copper, scroll have exact architectural matches with Coomer on this rather unimpressive ruined perched on the plateau just off the coast of Israel's Dead Sea at what point does Jim actually traveled to Israel to test his theory. Good question. So he really it was after he identified the first twenty locations. It's not the. That you know, he never says that God told him that the copper scroll treasure was here. He never sort of lays down any Trump cards. But he just kept at it. I mean, he's just a person who once he gets hold of a threat. He's gonna follow it all the way through. So it was once he identified the first twenty locations, and the copper scroll and saw that they all had architectural matches in Qom, Ron. That is when he had to get on a plane and go and see it in person himself, and and sort of walk the copper, scroll on the ground at coumarin because for one he also didn't know if he couldn't tell what the flooring was was like either. So you know, he might be able to match up which will in pools are great cisterns or tear styles are courtyard with all things listed in the copper scroll. But what he didn't know if he could if anybody would be able to break through that ground, or if it would be threatening to ruin itself, and so he flew there with his wife, and that was the first time he had ever been to Israel was to see copper, squirrel. Translation, was correct. And what was his motivation was he a treasure seeker was this a spiritual quest. So no, he is it was definitely spiritual. He says, and and I really after knowing him for a decade. I know that this is true that he just wants these. I don't see be found and returned to Israel, and he has no ulterior motives, he he considers this to be Israel's Israel's birthright, or you know, her. There's no other there. There's no other motive, and it's also not as if anyone would be able to that with any monetary value on these things. Anyway, now, he is a really religious man and very. Very strict keeping in with the Sabbath and with laws of the Torah. But also believer in Jesus. And so he kind of occupies both orbits. He's a little bit of a religious chameleon in that way that when he's with a group of Jews that he speaks the language of tour and of what's important to to religious Jews. But he also is is great with Christian audiences. So I see him kind of navigate both of those worlds and do it. Well because both are important to him. At this point. Is there does the technology exists to do sort of ground penetrating imaging? Can they see what's under the ground? Right. So the technology has has come a long way like you reference oak island. You know, every time that they hit a wall. They always just get a new grand piece of technology to keep the pot moving. But what is what was the problem fifty years ago is that even when there were metal detectors, even when metal detecting technology existed? This is the Dead Sea area, so the soil there is mineralized in a very different way than any other place in the world. And so so metal detectors just gave false positives or we're able to read the soil and the right way. And so for then the beginning when Koran was excavated metal detectors weren't very useful. Jim barfield? When part is that so ground penetrating radar has been done at Combe run. But not for what we were looking for in the copper scroll because the coppers girl. This is it's it's where it occupies some space between this isn't traditional archaeology archaeology digs down to the last level of habitation. And when that's reached you stop the copper, scroll is asking you to dig nine to twelve feet deeper than that. And to dig for something that was buried, so it's it's a really a natural process for archaeologists to to pursue that. And so the ground penetrating radar that had been done does show voids at Combe Ron does show that there are underground of storage areas rental price from liberty university had done a lot of that work on the Koran plateau, and and he has found void stare that. That he hasn't been able to excavate some of them cut into a cliff. It's like a very steep Wadi that drops right at the edge of Quran. So you have to be careful even an excavating caves or anything in that area because it's very collapsible. So we did get our hands on a Lorenzo deep max metal detector, which is probably the best metal detector for that region. A white smell detector is is strong. But that this is a ten thousand dollar metal detector when you add in the technology between being able to read the scans. But and it's a cute. It's a cute that you drag and it can tell the difference between ferrous and nonferrous metals second tell the difference. You know, we're looking for gold silver bronze or something else, and it can give some indication of size, and which is really wet and had to be done for the copper scroll. And what did it reveal? Well, so for years, so. I have to back up a little in two thousand nine and this is just a crazy sort of chronology of events that even JIMBO our food was able to do this. But he was able to get a meeting with the authority and to excavate at three of the sites that were listed in his research, which how this Oklahoma's and investigator was able to get a meeting with the Israel antiquities authority and much less for them to to want to test and probe his research is, you know, as a as a tell them within itself, but he was able to do it. And so what became clear in that process? Is that? The goal is sixty locations. And so if you dig all over Kumaon at that kind of debt and sixty different sites. You'll have you'll destroy Koran in the process you'll end up making Koran look like an up close side of the moon, craters everywhere. And so even though he had specific research that pointed to specific places coom Ryan, the sacred site in and of itself to Israel and to the religious community. And so he had to be really careful, and so it became clear that doing nine foot probes income Ron proper was not ideal. And and so for many years, he applied after that dig that dig was abruptly shut down for reasons that that I can speculate on, but that we don't know for sure. And so and not archaeologist that had been in charge of the day, and who had really believed in Barfield three search, and he was the number two person in command of Kumaon from an archaeological level he actually died and. A tragic cave accident. Not so long after and so it really kind of brought everything to a to a halt. And for whatever reason the Israel antiquity authority denied permission to do an electronic scan of Koran and for years it sat that way for years. Jim Barfield was applying. He was finding new archaeologists. He was writing new reports meeting with new leaders sometimes waiting out people to retire in the integrity of the thirty. And so he returned Israel's something like sixteen times. Right. Sixteen times. Right. Exactly. So this guy's tenacious. He's two nations. So today says and every time, you know, kind of building up this army of allies. A lot of people in the Temple Mount move at a lot of of religious Jews who who want who see third temple and Israel's future really have aligned with Jim Butterfield and wanting to succeed nothing has ever been found from the interior of the first or second temple. We appointing. Exterior evidence from the temples. Now, the retaining walls are still there. We have things that a stone that marks the place of trumpeting we have previously weights and scales. We we do we have things, but we don't have. So certainly, you know, there's no denying the existence of the Jewish temple. But because of two thousand years of invaders and knock you patients in Jerusalem being destroyed and rebuilt back up, and because we can't excavate on the Temple Mount, there's really nothing from from the ritual vessels or their religious that we have. There was one tiny pomegranate that was found that was believed to be on the end of a priestly sceptre, and it had an inscription that said from the house of y'all way or in the house of Yali, and it has been proved to be a forgery, which brings us back to the show in terms of what we can sort of the banner that the Temple Mount movement in March under. That they would love for Jim Barfield to be successful. So he really has sort of this this religious cohort of allies that has championed around him. But but just yes for years with knocking on on the wrong doors and really getting nowhere in terms of the antiquities authority approving a permit, which the archaeologists that we worked with really couldn't even understand it said he'd never been denied a permit for something like that before because it was non invasive it wasn't threatening to the ruin especially when we were able to get a hold of the Lorenzo, which is a much better metal detector. So it was really a frustrating time period. He he understand even met with a member of the modern day, send Hedren. Yes, he met with the whole San hindred. So right twice. And they and he presented his whole research. She has a he's a report writer for..

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