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Maggie Gyllenhaal

Sunday Sitdown with Willie Geist

37:30 min | 1 year ago

Maggie Gyllenhaal

"Willie geist here with another episode of The Sunday sit down podcast is always for clicking and listening along my guest. This week is Oscar scurr nominated Golden Globe winning actress Maggie Jilin Hall. She's getting ready for the final season of the Deuce the big. Hbo Series That looks at the birth of of Porn in New York City. I'M GONNA come right out and say it the birth of Porn in New York City in the nineteen seventies and now in this new season in the nineteen eighties. I'm joined as always by the producer of the Sunday. Sit Down podcast another great Maggie Maggie Law Haya Maggie Jilin Hall. The word cool comes to mind. She's not in a lot of a huge big budget kind of movies that you've heard of if you go down her list but she picks all these interesting movies these interesting parts in TV and especially the deuce which you'll hear in our interview. She says she believes is her best work ever in the work. She's most proud of. I really liked. I also thought that was interesting. She was like why what I would hope that your last work is the one that you're most proud of because it's sort of you know all culminating in this means. You're getting better she. She was in the Dark Knight Right. I was going to say what I I know her. From or what stands out the most that was two thousand eight. We talk about this to like. That was the one moment of sort of big right right. I asked her if she ever gets the urge to be in a movie like that like just jump out in front of a green screen. The explode behind you and she kind of laughed was like whenever I do those moves. It doesn't go well yeah. She's like no so she's happy doing the movies she does. She's also a producer on the DEUCE. If you haven't seen it James Franco's in it too and as I say it's about porn it is it is an amazingly well acted show. It's a snapshot of Times Square in the seventeen seventies and eighties which is absolutely nothing. Nothing like Times Square today unrecognizable We also talk about her family. Her parents are both filmmakers. She grew up in a house with Jake Jilin jae-ku who previously was a guest and the Sunday gas which he just put in the top line of his bio one time guest on the Sunday sit down podcast and they have a cool vibe. You know we talked to her with you've talked about her with Jake and get to talk with her about him. Something like that something something anyway now. Yeah it's interesting. I I mean I. It was funny when you were talking him about the pointers that she gave him after seawall to scare about kind of like their relationship wasn't pointers. I mean I I love watching his work. I just had you know some tips. I I guess there's a scene in his play or to give birth because he's sort of raise the woman at one point and he said after the show everyone was very complimentary. She was too but then she said but but there is one thing and she walked through what was actually like giving because she is the mother of two little girls and married also to actor. Peter Skarsgard they live in New York City and I just found her to be a joy and a delight to talk to. I hope you agree here. Now is Maggie Jilin. Hall on the Sunday sit down podcast Hi Maggie. Thanks for doing this appreciate it. We were just talking about sort of the bitter sweetness of the final season of deuce something for port your life and your career. We're into for for a bunch of years this point. How are you feeling now as you introduce this last season to the world well. I mean you know we knew who from the start that it would be three years. You know take three years to tell the story so we could pay ourselves and I knew that it was coming but you know I've never worked on anything this long before and I loved playing candy and Yeah I feel really I feel sad. I feel I feel really proud of the season I think something about working with the same people the same actors the same writers many of the same directors for so long means that the work is it really deepened and yeah. I think this is the work. I'm most proud of so far in my life so I feel I feel like hey yeah like kind of bitter sweet. I'm really excited for the world. See It because I think it surprising and I think it's unusual and I think it's really okay good and so yes. We all really left each other love each other. I didn't expect surprise because it's not great x xpress surprise because you've done so much good work that you would say in your long career. This is the best what is it about it for you that so special. I Guess I I love Candy. You know she's she's. I've had the opportunity with her. I mean look at Gaza really huge canvas go from her being a sex worker nineteen nineteen seventy-one to being a serious artist and director in nine hundred eighty five you get to see her her relationship with her child with her parents lovers business friendships. I mean it's like a massive breath spectrum of things and she's also so wild and like fun and also confused and quiet vulnerable and she's like so many things which you don't always have an opportunity to express but also I guess I feel like I don't know I think a really nice feeling to feel like the last thing you did is the thing you're most proud of. Trouser means like you're you're working. You're getting better working it out trying harder things. I mean from the first season to the third season. She's deepen so much for me. I'm proud of all the seasons but I like this one the best so for people who I haven't yet watched the first episode. Let's sort of set the stage a little bit about where we are because we've jumped ahead a few years in New York City now. We're into the nineteen eighty S. Where do we refined candy in the show so when you finish season two candies just made like the first porn film. That's really an expression of her She's really proud of it. It's a piece of our the world has accepted as a piece of art in nineteen seventy eight for I was reviewing viewing porn movies. Sometimes I think at least they do in our show but there was something that a real filmmaker could you know like behind the green door so she's Kinda high when you go out and season two and season three come back to her and in terms of work. Nobody's interested in what she's doing. Doing you know she's been making porn for women as she calls porn fem erotica and there's really not a big market for it and I think she's frustrated needed but I think the thing that's really exciting about what happens at candy. This season which is start to see seeds of in the first episode is that you know like as as an artist artis is a director as a somebody in her career. She's like intrepid like she doesn't stop. Someone told her no and she's a great okay. Try another way someone someone else tells her no which they always do she just can't stop the place where she's the most vulnerable and I think the most protected is in terms of love and there are a few places this season where that gets challenged. I mean she meets. Corey stalls character hang in the end of episode one and that becomes something that she really has to deal with. How does someone who has used sex sex as a business you know and I think become inured in a way to like sex as love and intimacy Hatley. What do you do when that comes into your life in a different way and also her I mean I don't know if you love a the character of Harvey is much Xiji. Krumholz plays WHO's really her best friend us us and by far the closest person to her that also becomes the place where you know there's real love there and how she gonNa deal with it what she's GonNa and do a tough nece. Irony humor fun really help you in the face of real love the third the cheap cheap easy way to describe the series if someone said what's it about I said well it's about porn in the nineteen seventies report on the nine hundred eighty s but the point of the birth of one but obviously there's so much more they're talking to especially this time around the nine hundred eighty s about the AIDS epidemic crack and cocaine all the other the rest of it so when people ask you what is is this show about well if I don't WanNa talk them very long form of but no if it's about I think it's about I think it's a critique of capitalism. I think it looks at like an sexism and I I have a couple of lines in season three that just like reverberate me what the show is about and especially this season at one point candy says there's a cost to all this. You know what is the cost of all of what we're selling alley and in a way what is the cost of kind of unchecked wild west capitalism in general which is what the porn industry mystery yet who gets taken advantage of and There's another really cool thing that that I say which I'm I'm not giving anything away. I think at one point candy says what men pay for becomes the world which you know candy says that not in I liked didactic way. She's not giving a speech. She's she feels that she's Weltman pay for and what she's allowed to mate as an artist is decided by like but men WANNA pay for you're and I think that is just such an interesting thing to think about. I think about it in terms of my own work. I think about it in terms of what I want to say how can get the money to say and and so you know and I think it's about the commodification of sex and that's something we've been thinking about is culture churn for the past few years and a really interesting way so as a really exciting time to have been working on this show it is you're right. You can lay it over. What's happening in Hollywood right now. You talked about your own work. You're a producer on the series. I think seven of the eight women who directed episodes not the directors were women that right honest and season to season two was what's the difference between just being an actor on a project and being a producer where you can help steer the direction of the story and why is it important for you to have that credit. I mean initially it was important for me just to sort of guarantee a place at the table I hit only read three of the of what would ultimately be twenty five episodes and so. I'd never had that experience before Dr. I'd seen David's work. David Sevan's work was a fan I didn't I wasn't walking in totally blind but I was like I don't know what this is going to be and I'm going to be naked physically and emotionally and like I just WanNa be sure that world to me saying something I can get behind and of course everyone will yes you to death in the room when they're Byu sign up but I don't know I didn't know them but as it went on I realized that they were looking thing for collaboration that the credit of being a producer in some ways didn't matter although it did matter for me I meant a lot to be honest and what it ended up being was yeah an active constant conversation about what we were saying how we were saying it what was happening happening with candy so I would see scripts early which actors don't usually get to do and make notes on them and we'd go back and forth which is one one of my favorite things about the whole process. I mean disagreeing with David Simon put a lot of fun and full of humor and I've great texts back can four and then I would see cuts early on and and and give notes about the cuts and so yeah I that that was a huge part of it for me in fact I wouldn't have probably agreed to do the show if they hadn't given neither the credit. Even though I desperately wanted to lose talented wanted David is it seems crazy not to have women at the table and a show that's effectively about in many ways exploitation of women and the commodification of sexism and the women's role in that. Is that something that you think about more in your career. If I'm taking a movie role I also want to be a producer on it and have some say in how this goes does well yeah. I produced the kindergarten that I made last year and I am. I'm producing the film that I'm going to direct the lost daughter and I think their different ways to produce right with the last daughter. The kindergarten teacher was a huge part of getting money organizing the financing. That's one element producing another element is this sort of artistic side of producing which if you are in a little independent movie and you are in every scene of that movie. You're carrying that movie on your back. You're probably going to end up doing a lot of the jobs of producer anyway or participating in that. You'RE GONNA will be reading the drafts giving notes. You're going to be seeing the cuts giving notes. You're going to write the letters to get this actor to calm. All you have relationship with this EP. You're going to have the meeting then. Take it to festivals and have the meetings with the `financiers. Try to push it over the edge. You know so I guess to me. I felt like I I actually want credit. Maybe in some ways it seems like a formality. I guess it wasn't to me I wanted wanted the credit and and then of course they had a credit on the kindergarten teacher as a producer. I realized how much I didn't know and learned so much from the women who had much more experience. Go ahead and producing and like you know I love it. I just happened to really like that. Did it take you awhile to get to the point into your career and say wait a minute. I don't really should I be doing this putting my name on the door but I also deserve it. I mean this is something that is hard as I'm working on these independent in films and all the things you just laid out yeah so may I deserve a lot of things have been like that for me that lately. I've sort of felt like wait. Why am I saying I don't need the credit or wait. Why am I saying I'll do that for free like actually do want to be paid. I do want credit then yes. I think it took me a while to yeah to feel entitled to ask for those things and you know it's interesting. I feel like there are younger. Women younger than me. You know millennials coming up who feel entitled in a way that I didn't and I think they are inspiring in that way like Amy Schumer you know and her comedy Circassian Super Funny. She says in reason convicts services. All these millennials are like looking at us like. What did you say it was okay like what did you accept from and it really made me laugh? 'cause. I think like it's true. It's great when the next generation inspires you. That's growth right. Pressure appreciates the business getting better. Have you seen that growth just in the last couple of years even since so publicly all this was thrown out into into the open with times of two. It's like the same thing I'm saying about the DEUCE right like there's a cost. What is the cost to exploitation. What is the cost to like. Unchecked greed read the question. We're asking in season three right who gets taken advantage of and who doesn't and in in our business It's like all of a sudden there were consequences to bad behavior and kind of rejigging of what's acceptable and not acceptable. We just are seeing it happen now. so yeah. I mean I kind of get dramatic shifts and the changes and it's almost like you look back. It was only two years ago but to your point about Amy Schumer. We tolerate it. What two years ago I do feel like it is different now. When you go into a room when you're on the set or wherever you are does the culture feels different ways I mean one. Yes deeply different very different. I definitely feel well. It like it's kind of amazing on another level. I think the problems that we're talking about our systemic right. They're really deeply ingrained into our culture. If women couldn't vote or credit card or there was really no access to all sorts of jobs for us one hundred years ago well then. What were we gonNA use to survive. You know you look like Jane. Jane austen all those books about how to get these women married because of survival visit to eat and there's some people who would sacrifice everything. I'm just for tons of money but other people are trying to survive because it was the man who could make the money right so as a culture sexuality chew -ality and has been part of what's in our toolbox as women in order to survive so that's something that is true because we are backed into a corner right. May I think this is like a this is a problem for all of us can take a long time to unravel but we're starting. I feel like the movie business that just the biggest most sparkly example everywhere of course yeah of course and this manifest itself on your set to be honest a title that I'd never heard of on a movie before an intimacy coordinator just for people watching what is that and why is that important to a set these days well it used to be that sex scenes you just kind of figured out yourself but there's a history of people doing sexy and so there are people there who would be your ally. You know wasn't gonNA be your director. Maybe maybe not. There's going to be someone who's your wardrobe. a person who's going to run in with a bathrobe kid and you're going to figure out with your Co.. Star how you're gonNA feel comfortable you know and a man was just something we used to have sort out ourselves and I spent a long time doing matt sorting it out getting right sometimes not right other times early before me too and and time's up really got started there were a group of actresses who started to meet a different people's houses and and talk about what was going on about two years ago and one meaning really early as somebody and. I think it was Natalie Portman. Maybe said Hook anytime. There's a fight scene in a movie. Even if someone just grabs your arm there's there's a stunt coordinator there. There's somebody there to make sure you're taking care of physically. Why don't we have that for sex scenes here. We have all these examples coming out of people feeling they weren't taking care of a protected or actively taken advantage of and then I mentioned that to David and emily meade who plays Laurie on on our show. I think really took the helm with that and we think are the very first show to hire intimacy coordinator who you know figuring out her job as we went along but basically she is an advocate for people who have to do sex scenes and she calls them the night before she talks to them even if you sign and nudity waiver which probably something most people don't know what that is. It's sort of it's an agreement. It's a legally binding agreement that says I'll agree to show. Oh My right breast and only my right breast store agree to show my hip from the side and it's all very regulated. If you agree to that on our set if you get there that day and you changed your mind and it doesn't feel right to you you can change your mind. You're not bound go to Alicia our intimacy coordinator and you tyler so that's real consensus. Think about your on a date with someone and you're like. I think I'm going to sleep with them and then you get home and you're like Oh. No no no no well. No there's got to be the same on that set Alicia for me our intimacy coordinator I mean I I to be honest when she came the second season. I was like I'm good. You know they come still died. You're here for the twenty five year olds who are here for one day and advocating for yeah. I've taken care of myself for a long time and I'm fine but once I really started working with her which was season three. I have a a lot more nudity in a lot more sex scenes. I just loved her and I found so helpful I couldn't. I couldn't believe it and I didn't go in the I was like I'm good. I've handled it for so long since secretary of doing this. I'm good but I found it like like a major relief. Why would think too for a young actor. You're trying to make it in the business. The last thing you want to do is say no. I'm not going back to the next movie and on and on and on so to have somebody else who can say that for you. Yes seems like a huge development for film film. Yes yes still. I think it's hard to say no. It's hard to say. I don't think this line fields right when you don't have a relationship but it's like always the right thing to do. If you know if you're right that's so cool thanks for explaining that I think the only thing that's going to catch onto your example and we're such a good shall to headline exactly that is true. I've noticed that you mentioned the Deuce. Is your favorite work that you've done your career so interesting to me and other people because of the the roles you pick mostly independent movies just quality film after quality film. There's the occasional Asia dark night that you mix in What is your criteria for a job when something is pitched to you. What does it have to be for you to sign up for it because I don't see in a ton of blockbusters well. They're not like knocking down Batman. I you know I just wanted to feel honest. It's not like it has to be realism. You know I love the things that are sometimes stylized or fantasy but fundamentally but it's saying has to feel honest to me on what I watch things or read things that feel like they're kind of like a that. They're dishonest about a human experience. I get like a little angry and I get bored. I'm like okay. I don't really need to see this is like feeding me a lie so when it's rare her that something is not only honest but what I really love is when something honest and I've never heard it really set before and I'm like ooh ooh okay to deuce kindergarten teacher Ebola man yet those kinds of things I think like wow you're really really bad out there out loud. That's what I like. Mike is There ever a temptation to movie where you're just in front of a green screen. Something blows up behind you jump off and does a big business at the summer box office. I mean to be honest with you. It is so hard to finance independent movies these days. I mean so hard that yeah I think it would be helpful probably probably to be in a big movie like that but I have found that when I have chosen to do things like that and not loved them but never works out for me but I recently read television pilot that was sci-fi and it was sad five but like you could feel from the writing that they wanted a human being in the center of the sci-fi peaked my like that kind of thank. You seem like you're after here like aliens mixed with real humid. That'd be a turn for you. Yeah Right. Yeah hooked me announcement here and I was like can. I like that idea something new. I told you I interviewed Jake for this show about a month ago for his play and we were talking about you guys it's in your family and he said every thought about there was probably never a chance. He was going to do anything other than work in film and somewhere in are they giving your parents are and everything else. I do feel that way too. You feel like you are sort of destined to be in this business now. I don't I feel like I don't know. It's funny because yes of course they were in the business and doing interesting work. I really feel like it came from me. I feel like I would've stopped by now. If it was just kind of like oh I fell into it or really feel. They came from me. He wasn't saying it was forced into it now. I was basically saying he saw them enjoying their lives and it felt like a cool thing to do all I know I know I understand but I'm just thinking like I sort of think. It can't guarantee this obviously like if my parents were farmers and in Ohio Ohio still think I would have found my way into story telling I think easy to say that I think that do you remember when he fell in love with it was early play or was inexperienced. Who had we said this? Is it yeah I I remember going to acting class I would go to my parents sets and I saw few actresses Debra winger and remember Debra winger and just like watching her going something so sound silly spiritual spiritual or something about with how many over there and actually I was hiding under a desk watching her and then I was like in her eyeliner. I remember being so skilled. No Oh that's the office in fact I wanted to have eight eight or something but then I remember taking an acting class in the valley of this just kind of run down sweet space and I which is I was like I was good at it came easily to me like I had a way in and out of I I was able to express myself like something really honest about myself through doing it. Even when I was young then I remember I played Oh so I remember being in fiddler on the roof. When I was in like third grade maybe littler real kid version Asia and I got cast as Yanta matchmaker an eyelid took super seriously and I'd watch the movie a million times both shaking. I could probably do the entire yeah all the words and all the songs real but like you know I really can't make cane. I walked in and I remember the audience burst out laughing soon as I came on and I was so shocked by courts it was super funny but I was kind of heartbroken and and confused also like as you know remember that and then I remember doing playing nurse Ratchet in one flew over the next and I'm taking it so seriously we were like the student production is cool high school school guy the director and a little love with the guy played heartbeat as the only woman girl and a middle school tenth grade. They were upgrading sure yeah yeah and I I mean obviously I was like fifteen but I had that feeling that trippy feeling that you can sometimes Gatlin you just go into but really acting right yeah yeah stick around to hear more from Maggie Jilin Hall on the Sunday sit down podcast including more on her relationship with her little brother Jake and the one job she would not let her own daughters do new for meet the press that Chuck Todd Cast. It's an insider's take on politics the two thousand twenty election and more candid conversations with some of my favorite reporters about things we usually discuss off camera listen for free. Wherever you get your podcast welcome back now. welcome back to the Sunday sit down podcast now for more of my conversation with Maggie Jilin Hall. Do you guys talk to you. Jake talk about Your Business or is it. What's the relationship like you saying I told you earlier act came insolvency wall and everyone was backsied chilling grady. Was You said we need to talk about that. That scene were giving birth. It's all wrong. You guys talk that. Because of course I'm an actress so never go backstage and say like this is all draw something but I know I think I was like totally blown away had spent the previous two hours watching Tom. Sturridge Jake and just like weeping deeping and leaping and I was like if you want a little bit actually Aaron Labor you should I would I told him was you should watch some birthing videos sir I mean I don't know if you had to watch the like. I took the class but I can't remember if we specifically watch those so I did. I watched some trippy birthing video you see people in Labor and the sounds they make and the way that they talk and also my memory of that. is very specific and there's no way you would kind of know it unless you've been through it so. I tried to watch some birthing video so you give him notes from time to time just the most like the kind where I'm like. I can barely speak to you. I was blown away. If you want like just something else to add in the soup. You know like who's going to give you that accepts like other actors offers other artists people who are like you know. There's only a few people in my life who of course what their ideas their notes their thoughts. I I know what Jake is up to. I know how he works and we actually had he and my husband and I all worked with the the same acting teacher for many years who died a couple years ago so like I know I know I know him as an artist. I love watching him onstage. I just think it's his name the park with George. He's amazing and he says the same about you. You're talking about each other would would you. You've got two young girls if they come to you and say mom do small dishes. I'm joining the family business. What we say I I mean I think that they I think that they can do whatever they want you know. I think it's a tough business for women I think it's you know I like. You say it's different now. It's a little bit different now. I I still think it kind of sexual is is you turns you as a entity into a commodity again a lot about what the deuces about and that's complicated I find I have always found that typical. I wouldn't really wish that on my daughters but I also am like deeply fed by what I do. I can't imagine doing anything else and it's the way that I I express myself you know and so so I would never keep that for my kids. I think one of the only I wouldn't want them to do arm like free resold owing. I think that bridge afoot down on free soloing. You remember that movie. I've I still it'd be like no no chaser dreams except that one so as you wrap the Deuce what you see out in front of your career as I said so interesting all these choices you made. This is an unqualified success. What are you doing next next well. I'm production for a film. I'm going to direct She's been a really really interesting process so far right now. I'm casting. I am not quite allowed to say who my actresses Dr but they're amazing women and I've I've been watching tapes of of young actresses to play another role women in their twenties and that's been amazing to be on the other side of it and also like we're talking about to watch women and who are younger than me and see how many exciting bright talented women there. Are you know and to see that. I have a real like something I want. You know I mean basically I would say one or two exceptions where I was look. I didn't love her work but basically all these women. I'm looking at fifty tapes of women like she's great and I signaling thing to discover and find to spend time with that part of myself which is new never cast before and to be in a position elevate and empower these son. Who's putting something out there that I believe it could luck with a congratulations on the Deuce such a pleasure to talk to you? Thanks my big. Thanks again to Maggie Jilin Hall for a great conversation you can catch season three the final season of the deuce airing Mondays at nine pm on Hbo Be Oh and Maggie Law no free soloing for the kids know free cell. I love that. She said you know they can do whatever they want. I'm fully supportive of it except maybe freecell sallow. Maybe just saw that dog and it's like fresh top of mind. That's the way I feel like. They're like many people wouldn't let their children yeah. She's joined join the Maggie Gyllenhaal Club. She was so fun to talk to. Thanks again to Maggie. Thanks to you man in thanks to all of you for tuning in this week. If you want to hear more of the full linked conversations with my guests every week we sure to click subscribe to never miss an episode and don't forget to tune into Sunday today on your television every weekday on NBC. I'm willing guys. We'll see you right back here next week. Sunday down pocket hey it's Chris Hayes from MSNBC every day. 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"From w._h._y._y. In philadelphia this is fresh air. I'm dave davies in for terry. Gross learn how to make today maggie jilin hall. She plays the sex worker worker who gets off. The street becomes a porn actress and director of porn films in the h._b._o. Series the deuce season three begins monday. The dues is set in the nineteen seventies as an eighty s and is about the intersection of sex workers pimps porn organized crime cops politicians and feminists before accepting the role. Joan hall insisted on being being one of the producers. What i wanted was to be a part of the conversation tip be in the room. I thought it could be helpful to the story that they told me they they were trying to tell also kentucky reviews the new album by lana del rey and david been coolly reviews to new d._v._d.'s one about forgotten female silent film director director the other about a singer stats from the nineteen sixties our guest maggie gyllenhaal stars in the h._b._o. Series deuce use its third season premieres monday. The deuces about the intersection of prostitution pornography organized crime cops politicians and feminists in the times square area of manhattan in the seventies. It's also about changing attitudes towards sex in that period and how pornography became more mainstream. The series was co created by david simon who also created the wire and co created tra. May the first season of the deuce was set in the early seventies. Jilin hall plays candy handy as the series began. She was a sex worker but after she was beaten up by john she looked for a safer alternative. She started acting and cheap porn. Films became fascinated by how films are made and decided she wanted to direct the following. Season skips ahead to nineteen seventy seven when porn has become more mainstream candies been acting in and directing porn films but she wants more control over the stories and wants them to reflect a woman's point of view in this scene from the second season. She's unhappy about the latest film script and the fantasies they're creating. She tells that to her boss. The porn films producer harvey played by david krumholz. I'm not doing this anymore. Doing this trees non rabbis. You religious now now just defense me. I stayed up all my writing. The scene astronauts vivas will scripted paid. Hey i'm. I'm trying to say something about organized religion madness movie. It's the statement yesterday and what exactly anything else yeah. I'm not doing anymore. Daddy knows best scenes. That's a fantasy. That's not my fantasy. Oh that's someone's fantasy. Hey harvey you want me to keep banging out films for you. You gotta give me some better to work with and you have got to let me start drawing some lines for myself otherwise absolutely i've awesome thinking about that's a clip from the second season of the deuce set in the late seventies season three jumps ahead to nineteen eighty-five maggie jilin hall's dell's character candy has become more confident as a filmmaker in the porn industry but our efforts to make erotic films from a woman's point of view are becoming less viable even though the industry continues to expand with the introduction video in this scene from the first episode of the new season edited a bit for broadcast candy and her boss harvey are arguing over so how to keep their company afloat. I have to turn product and our customers customers. They they are mostly men they are mostly. Excuse me degenerate guests. We look at that ballroom tomorrow. Who's browsing. Who's buying who's taking pictures wasserman you are we are we still having the same damn conversation after all. These years were good filmmaker but the feminist porn is a niche each product that i can no longer invest in okay. It is negatively impacting our balance sheet now here jamir so go to europe find the european investor start making a different kind of film straight poor like everybody else else. That's the business owner. That's a scene from the new season of the deuce which premieres monday on h._b._o. A note to parents we'll be talking about sex work in the porn industry and you may not find it appropriate for young children mega jalen welcome to fresh air combat and i think you're so terrific in this series. Was it difficult for you to decide whether to take the role on the one hand you have david simon co creator of the wire and tra may and to great writers richard price and george pellicano who among their other credits wrote for the wire on the other hand. It's about the sex industry and you play sex worker who enters the porn biz i as an actress than as a director. The subject matter gives it the potential of being exploitive of women. So what did you need to know before accepting the part part before feeling confident that you had a read on how how the women characters and how you as an actress we're going to be treated yeah. I think the thing that was unusual about this project for me. Was that when they asked me to do it. They only had three scripts written and you know i'm interested in the themes. This project is dealing in you know i. I didn't have a problem with playing playing a sex worker full. Stop you know <hes> but yeah i feel nervous with only three scripts and already in the first three episodes like my clothes off most of the time and <hes> and yet very very drawn to it very drawn to working with david and george and richard <hes> and also drawn onto the things that were clearly on the table. Now i mean it was about it was about even from the very beginning <hes> an imbalance of power between men and women in terms of sax in terms of art in terms of of business. It was about desire who was about transactional sex in the way that's kind of a part of almost every bit of our culture at this point but you know i basically i. I met with them and i really wanted to do it after talking to them. I mean david george. You're so smart and interesting but i i guess i'm old enough and i've been through enough that <hes> i i knew i didn't quite have enough of a guarantee that i could trust it. So what did you ask for so that you can find out more and figure out if you could trust the material. I asked to be a producer. How is that going to help <hes> well. Basically what i wanted was to be a part of the conversation conversation to be in the room. You know i've said this before but i think it's a good way of putting it like. I knew they needed my body and i wanted to make sure that they also so wanted my mind because i thought i'm an asset here. You know not not just not just as an actress i guess and <hes> i wanted to use that part of myself and i thought it could be helpful to the story that they told me they were trying to tell. I really wanted to do it. Which was the bargaining. Power wasn't like all that strong but i had to say to myself. I'm not going to do it unless i can n._b._a. Producer because i think that that will give me this other kind of guarantee in terms of storytelling and and they gave it to me and so i did it so you want to be in on the conversation of how your character was going to be depicted. How sex was going to be depicted. One of the issues in the deuce is how on the porn sets to treat women respectfully while having them perform sex ex and that's something that i imagine applies also to filming the deuce because the actors like you have to perform sex scenes and i'm sure you insisted on treating being treated respectfully though maybe you didn't need to insist maybe that was just kind of given onset but <hes> <hes> were there conversations you had around that as like how how should the actors and actresses be treated so as not to violate them in any way while shooting the scenes and and ditto for for the scenes when you were a sex worker working the streets <hes> you know we as a crew do and as actors learned a lot about this as we went the first season <hes> and of course in between the first first season in the second season there was times up movement which <hes> brought to light a lot of things that i think people didn't wanna see before that made it impossible muscle not to see and made a lot of things explicit so the intention was always from everybody to be as respectful as possible people season one. I was one of the people who was always you know at my clothes off all the time. I was doing the simulated sex scenes and i realized for me. Eh the most important thing was to have a physical barrier between me and the day player who had never met before who i was doing the scene with so we sort of fashioned. There was nothing like this before. I was like what are they use on girls. We know can someone can. We call them <hes> on the t._v. Series girls yeah it was like they must know what do you. What protection do you. How do you do this. I mean i've done a lot of sex scenes in my career but i mean not quite quite like bees with strangers. You know that was something that was hard to do it with strangers. It's very intimate so he fashioned this kind of thing that would keep you know protect us physically from actually being even in contact through thin layers of clothes villes like too much. You know you need need some real tech you so we figured that out and we shared it with everybody but really <hes> the second season. I think we we made had a really big change which was amazing which was that <hes> i had been to some meetings of actresses talking about things simple things that we could change on sets and and someone suggested at one of them that you know when you do a fight scene in a movie or a play. There is always a stunt guy. They're always to make sure are your physically and emotionally protected. If something doesn't feel comfortable to you you can go to the senka in fact they even look and see if after the stunt you might be sort of unconsciously unconsciously rubbing a part of your arm or something and they'll come and say you're right to that hurt and an actress at one of these meetings suggested. Why don't we have that for sex scenes jeans and so on the deuce in the second season we did we had this woman who was the intimacy coordinator we called her and she was she would call the the actors the night before she'd say i'm here to <hes> to make you comfortable and this is what your contract contract says. Do you still feel comfortable with that because you don't have to do it and then she would be there she would help with the choreography of the sex scenes and she would check check in with people and the truth is for me. I like you said. I feel like i can say oh. This doesn't feel right. Hold on something's off <hes>. I do know how to protect myself at this point but i felt for people who were coming in for one day who are so happy to have half the gig and you know don't feel comfortable saying who might not feel as comfortable as i do saying <hes>. I actually don't feel okay with this anymore. That's what she was there for and i read this piece. Actually that one actress wrote in the new york times about coming on our set and now great she felt with alicia. That's what a leashes therefore. Is there anything from the physical barrier that you came up with that is describable on radio with radio standards well basically it was a piece of a yoga mat put inside a pillowcase and we'll just play the pillowcases if it were part of the sheets and then push it out of the way in order to continue on with the scene because like i said for me it wasn't nudity so much i like the idea of what a human body brings with it artistically to a worthwhile while story and my body. I mean i'm forty. I i like that. I don't know i didn't i really didn't mind including my body. The in the storytelling i was doing but i wanted protection from like you know. People barely met physically so that was a good solution for me yeah and there you mentioned day players. There's a lot of players because all all of the johns some of the characters in the porn films they don't figure into other episodes us oh so they are the day players who the women characters are having sex with right and the idea is if you wanna make it not pretty woman <hes> well then in a way you have to show okay. There's this guy and then two hours later this guy and there's this guy and then there's this guy and <hes> <hes> that was part of it and it wasn't easy there's wants you and i want to ask you about where she's with a you know a john customer her in a cheap hotel room and <hes> he starts to slap her and hit her and she takes out search she you take it takes out some mace from in her purse and sprays him and and he's like shocked and temporarily blinded she uses zada an opportunity to run to the door to get out of this hotel room but the door's locked and by the time she unlocks it. He's like dragging dragging her back in by the hair and then the door closes the camera stays on the outside of the room you and the john or on the inside of the room so we don't see what's happening but we hear how your character is being <hes> really badly beaten up and i'm wondering what that scene was like for you and how how it was filmed so that you didn't get hurt. Yeah well that scene for me. I would say it's like i know it was affecting affecting to watch because luta bracelets who directed it as a beautiful director and yet for me. It was very clinical. I was like okay. We choreographed it we did it of of course i was protected. Everyone made sure that my body was protected and i- okayed everything we did in them. That scene felt like a dance and we did the dance. <hes> actually there did come a time when we were shooting that where i was like okay we need to stop now because i can feel that my neck is starting to get sore and if we do this too many times them and end up with an injury and this is by the hair was that or something i don't know thrashing around on the bed or whatever <hes> but i'm much more interested in in scenes that require something difficult or complicated or difficult map to have to walk emotionally you know so the scenes that follow it where the makeup on and they go out on the street and i loved the scene with method man who who played one of the pimps who's trying to get me in a stable and he's like you. You know he basically did that is a scene where i went. This scene is life or death either. I die and i agree. I just give up. I give up my autonomy. I give up my sense of power. I give up my sense of self south and i i joined up with him and i just slowly die or i get off the street and <hes> i don't know i think that isn't that like the way doesn't that happen in some way. Even though most people aren't doing sex work on the the street and york in seventy one isn't that isn't that sort of the question that many people have to ask themselves at some point like wait. Am i going to like meighan. A live now or am i gonna is an interesting scene too because you're talking about the emotional complexity like you're feeling very vulnerable at that point because you've been really badly beaten up and now you're back on the street again <hes> and so when when the pump gas like tells you like you need someone this would never happen. I protect you <hes> like you are definitely pushing him away at the same time you're in tears and you weep in his arms temporarily and dad young no. That's the whole thing that set up in the whole first season sheila. She has no dad and the whole pimp thing like they're always calling them. Daddy you know i do feel like she just wants all support. She just want someone to take care of her and she never never asks for that too much and so he he knows just what to do to try to get her and and he doesn't. I think he he doesn't know she. She walks out the street. I want to talk with you about the time's up the metoo movement. The first season of the deuce was written before for that the second season. I assume was written after that. So how did all the all the women coming forward in the industry in the hollywood industry and in other fields change the conversations that you're having with the people you work with including the writers owners and producers personally. I think one of the things that really spurred on the birth of the times that movement a mint was not just harvey weinstein but <hes> was trump being elected and saying everywhere on national television everywhere everywhere. You can grab women by the if you have enough power. They let you do it and this is the hollywood tape exact and it it being played everywhere. Everyone knows about that. You know and there's no consequence for it. So what i mean say is like even though <hes> the deuce was written before he was elected before time's up really happened. <hes> i think we were living in a culture that was misogynist and this was on everyone's minds minds. I mean we were watching the first season and we would often watch the debates in our lunch break. It was a part of our cultural conversation even even before <hes> it may be it was a part of everyone's conversation because that is what the deuces about <hes> and how did it change <hes>. I feel like everything's changed. I see the times that movement as an and also just sort of everything in reaction to these you know the allegations against harvey weinstein. I see this kind of door. Got pushed open like this old stone doors that had been closed for thousands of years light streaming streaming through it and i think how do we keep that door open <hes> and i think it involves having the most interesting subtle nuanced conversations continuing to think all the time maggie gyllenhaal speaking with terry gross last fall jilin hall stars in the h._b._o. Series the deuce its third season premieres monday after a break shall talk more about the metoo movement and its impact on the writing and production of the series also kentucky reviews. Here's the new album by lana del rey and david cooley reviews to new d._v._d.'s one about a forgotten female silent film director and the other about tom lehrer the the singer satirist from the nineteen sixties on day davies and this is fresh air yeah ah <music> how <music> <music> this message comes from n._p._r. 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One of the complications for the deuce is that james franco is one of the men alleged by several women to have behaved in a sexually inappropriate or sexually exploitive exploitive way was the women making those allegations came forward. My understanding and you can correct me if i'm wrong and <hes> is that the producers had to figure figure out how and even if to proceed after that <hes> yeah i. I think we all had to do exactly what i'm what i was just describing. Which is we had to do. The most careful nuanced onced intelligent clear thinking all of us and assess the situation when i felt as a producer it was my job to confront that and talk with him and also to talk with the women on our show both in the cast cast and crew and <hes> make sure that everyone felt that they had been treated with absolutely absolutely nothing but respect in the work place <hes> and for me and i think this was true for everybody involved <hes> <hes> i felt that continuing to tell our feminist feminist story was the most important thing and made the most sense even in light of those allegations. It's i mean in terms of making a show which is about all of these things that we're talking about. I think it would be a terrible shame not to be able to continue the conversation. Which is i think a deeply nuanced conversation member station about exactly what's happening culturally right now in terms of misogyny in terms of <hes> an imbalance of power in terms <music> of sack says commodification in terms of all the subtleties of that early in your career when you were twenty three you start in a movie called secretary a younger twenty two twenty two okay and you're a young woman whose gotten out of a mental health institution your cutter. You cut yourself and get your job secretarial. Though you have no secretarial skill and you end up you end up being in an s. and m. relationship with your boss played by james spader and can you both realize that there's something really truly fulfilling you find about that relationship and in a way it's it's become a healthier outlet for of your character than than cutting herself has been and you had to really expose yourself physically for that role as well. Did that lead you to any thinking. That was good preparation for what you have to do on the deuce. That's interesting. I mean secretary was the first time that i was given a role where i could express something about myself. Which of course you know does nothing to do with fest annum. It has nothing to do with speaking and you know that's the fiction ray the idea. I think were the things that excite me. Most about the role of roles that come into my life are like is there something in the script in the story that will allow me to explore explore something that's on the edge of what i know about myself but with the protection of fiction and sexist secretary trey was the first time i ever got to do that. I never could've articulated that. That's what i wanted. At the time i was like oh there's something in ear that's for me and and <hes> it was kind of amazing experience because the director was interested in me as artist was interested in what i was offering and the way that that shifted the story as opposed to you know whatever he'd imagined before. I got there and you know at the time like i had gone to college <unk>. I was a little bit young graduated and i was twenty one so this is right out of college and i went to columbia and i studied feminist theory. Dan you know all that stuff and i was like intellectually. I understand what this says. I mean i don't think i did. I still don't know that i do you know in reality. I was growing up and you know that's captured inside of that movie. Let me introduce you if you're just joining us. My guest is maggie jilin hall and she stars in the h._b._o. Series the deuce. She also stars in a new movie called the kindergarten teacher. Let's talk about that film a little bit. It might seem like go night and day. She's a sex worker and porn director and the deuce and a kindergarten teacher. In <hes> in the kindergarten teacher loved that very odd job trajectory. Yes accept accept that you have some serious problems in the kindergarten teacher and because the character you play somebody who writes poetry free and that that's really what she wants to do but no one takes any notice of her poems and she finds a strange outlet for her poetic creativity and impulses yeah i mean i think the kindergarten teacher is is a movie about you know what are the consequences the real consequences of starving mm-hmm a vibrant woman's mind and it's told by a group of women filmmakers and so in our opinion the consequences are really dire and it is kind of an allegory. It's a thriller. It's almost like a horror movie in some ways. You'd said that you thought the character your character on the deuce and your character in the kindergarten teacher had a connection. Do you want to explain now that the connection that you see between the two of them well yeah. I think both women both characters like many women right. Now are waking up to the fact that they've been accepting away of living that. They're not okay with and not only not okay okay with but <hes> is keeping them from from living is keeping them from being who they are you know and <hes> i think that's dramatically radically interesting. I think a lot of characters you meet when they come to a point where they're like. It can't go on like this anymore but <hes> i think it's related to you know what we were talking about above me too and time's up. You know this cultural moment where women are saying. I don't know how i lived like this for so long. I don't know how i accepted that. It's unacceptable and the the the interesting thing is. I think candy <hes> she's really thinking clearly. She knows what she wants and even though it's very difficult for her to get it i mean she's a porn director. In nineteen nineteen seventy seven for that chooses sex worker and seventy one is not an easy path for her and the show certainly doesn't make it easy for her <hes> but she's on a path off. Make sense that inch by inch sat back. You know like be damned. She's she's on her way. Clearly toward feeding herself emotionally intellectually artistically even financially <hes> whereas lisa in kindergarten teacher has the say very similar needs very very similar hunger <hes> and is not thinking clearly and is confused and the way in which she goes. It's about getting the things that she knows she needs. It's really deeply problematic and personally. I love the idea that it's the it's the pornographer who thinking clearly knows what she wants and knows how to get it and it's the kindergarten teacher who doesn't necessarily more challenging situation. I think i love it. They're coming out at the same time you know and what it what it means when you think about them together. We'd love them to be in a room together sometime so so interesting <hes> but anyway that's how yes that's how i think they're related because those are the things that are on my mind nagy john hall. It's just been such a pleasure talking with you. Thank you so much. Thank you maggie. Gyllenhaal speaking with terry gross last fall jilin hall stars in the h._b._o. Series the deuce. It's third season premieres monday. Coming up ken tucker reviews the new album from lana del rey. This is fresh air support for fresh air and the following message come from rocket mortgage by quicken loans. Imagine how it feels to have an award winning team. Mortgage experts make the home buying process smoother for you with a history of industry leading online lending technology rocket mortgage is changing the game visit rocket mortgage dot com slash fresh air her equal housing lender licensed in all fifty states and m._l._s. consumeraccess dot org number thirty thirty rocket mortgage by quicken loans push-button get mortgage. What do all of these people have in common comma harris peop- food adjudge and bernie sanders. They're all running for president and they've all sat it down with us on the n._p._r. Politics podcasts appeals going to drive me crazy. We are going out on the trail with as many of the democratic presidential candidates as we can and bringing you in depth interviews with them. Come along by subscribing to the n._p._r. Politics podcast lana del rey is a singer and songwriter who over the last decade okayed has released a string of recordings that have expanded our idea of what los angeles pop music sounds like. She's released her first album in over two years. It's called norman rockwell with an exuberant obscenity inserted between those two names rock critic. Ken tucker says the music on this album is some of the strongest of the year like to say everything and they saw train climb good. Stay up. 'til dawn the only his kids a stage with a song. You give me one day. I woke up like may to mm-hmm lana. Del rey is guided by what the art critic peter plague has called the sunshine muse that bright clarity of california light that also illuminates darker impulses and bleak thoughts the singer and songwriter's new album is a series of earthquakes and aftershocks rendered rendered with supreme confidence and steely assurance. I was reading slow. Mara got thinking they may get less trusted. <unk> tested less like all these editons smiling for miles and pink dresses high heels on why uh-huh no they <hes> no no uh home around twenty the far right and does an <hes> delray constantly contrasts her tone of voice with the words she chooses. She creates drama by speaking bluntly through a hypnotic croon. She uses the f word a lot much harsher than her vocabulary. However are her assessments of the men around her many of them self absorbed boobs who who misunderstand or underestimate her took my son out of context at the mariners upon complex heino we know candalyn lewin harm the poor the lightning the kind of girl who's gone dan and make you wonder who and who you've been who i've been with u. Undies windy speeches your furnace. Your dial your weakness. Maybe are you from sir. Scott whispered cheese. He found this graph. That's mariners apartment complex. Norman rockwell is an album of fourteen songs spread over more than an hour songs regularly exceed four or five minutes. One goes on for more than nine and delray needs every second of them. She needs to set scenes to make small jokes. Six and two framer observations about the various ways we sabotage ourselves and other people the album was produced by jack antonoff who in recent years has worked with women including taylor swift pink and saint vincent with del rey antonoff seems to think it best to step back and set off her vocals with piano and acoustic guitar a few times the two of them attempt something more grand and the gamble pays off in the gleaming beauty of song called the greatest. I'll i miss long beach and you pay amiss dancing with them. Most of all <music> by the beach girl who dances last for komo <music> del rey is very consciously a california artist dotting these songs with references to appropriate l._a. Musicians and visual artists you get the feeling sensibility has been shaped by riding in the car listening to the brightness of the beach boys during the day and then holding up in bed at night reading. Perhaps about the doomed families in ross macdonald's santa barbara detective stories there are songs in which del rey wants you to envision her unable to sleep climbing into her truck to zoom down through laurel canyon making a right on sunset boulevard of art heading off to santa monica and venice beach feeling a chill of melancholy. Take houses can say <hes> <hes> <hes> <music> obsessed with next best america one of the ultimate l._a. Writers eve baboots made this observation in her nineteen seventy four book slow days fast company quote. You can't write a story about l. A. that doesn't turn around in the middle or get lost indeed. Many of lana del rey's songs on this album. Take the same hairpin turns that brad pitt does driving living down the canyon in quentin tarantino's recent once upon a time in hollywood the differences with landale ray at the wheel. You're never afraid you'll get lost or crackup. Record at kentucky reviewed the new album by lana del rey coming up david bean cool reviews to new d._v._d.'s one about forgotten in female silent film director and the other about a musical satirist from the nineteen sixties. This is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message come from from k. Buxbaum in support of the david gilkey and zaba ulitsa mono memorial fund established to strengthen n._p._r.'s commitment to training and protecting journalists in in high risk environments support for n._p._r. Comes from w._h._y._y. Presenting the podcast eleanor amplified and adventure series kids love and will make those summer road trips a little easier on everyone here reporter eleanor outwit crafty villains and solve mysteries as she travels the globe to get the big story ori available where you get podcasts or at w._h._y._y. Dot org are tv critic. David cooley sometimes grumbles that there's too much t._v. Into who little time yet he continues to hunt for obscure but intriguing fair wherever you can find it today he refused to recently released d._v._d.'s about entertainment and tamers from long ago one featuring a singing saturdays from the sixties the other profiling along forgotten female filmmaker from the silent era both through available for streaming on amazon prime video. Here's david in my college class on the early history of film. I spend lots of time showing the pioneering early movie be shorts of thomas edison the loom ear brothers and george militias but i didn't know anything about a lease gabler shea who wrote directed and produced hundreds of similarly similarly groundbreaking films at about the same time now. I do similarly in one of my t._v. History classes. I teach about the mid sixties political satire series that was the week that was and that shows brilliant composer of sarcastic topical songs tom lehrer but i had never seen a full length the concert from that same period in which leyrer sang and played his own compositions now i have and both of these boutique items have given me more pleasure sure than most of the mainstream t._v. I've been watching all summer be natural. The untold story of elise keebler shea is directed edited produced and co whole written by pamela green. She approaches her subject like a detective story or like an episode of the podcast cereal were her reporting about the story is part of the story. She tells as each nugget of information about the forgotten silent film maker leads to another be natural shows in very visual will and sometimes playful or dramatic terms. How green put together the various puzzle pieces and the pieces are fascinating. The young at least gay was in attendance in eighteen ninety five when the lumiere brothers presented their short one scene movie exiting the factory the first exhibition of a motion picture film hill so she was present to witness the very birth of cinema and quickly began making movies of her own and this documentary titled be natural refers to the sign gabler shea hung in her makeshift movie studios in france and later in new jersey as an ever-present instruction and reminder to her silent movie actors actors green in compiling her film interviews many current hollywood players who like me express astonishment at not knowing this woman's biography pretty much lesser films and green threads it altogether by relying on one modern female filmmaker jodie foster to serve as narrator. It's a lovely link to past and present with one woman director saluting another niece inspired by the screening thinks something better could be done documenting daily life why not use film to tell stories i lease key writes directs and produces one of the first narrative films ever made at least one of the first to utilize many film takings including close ups hand tinted color and synchronized sound de resigns kamal to accompany her husband the u._s. pull at least returns to filmmaking and founds her own company she she directs and manages all aspects of production following a two decade career in two countries comprised a thousand films that she she wrote directed or produced lisa disappears from filmmaking. My only complaint about about being agile is that it doesn't include more complete examples of gabler. Shays surviving film work but incompleteness is not a complaint. I can level at the other other recently released d._v._d. Tom lehrer live in copenhagen. This d._v._d. Is nothing but full length works more than a dozen songs written then performed by. Tom lehrer before an attentive audience in a tiny danish t._v. Studio leyrer who provided that was the week the was with such wildly funny songs as pollution the vatican rag and poisoning pigeons in the park released popular record albums with all those songs but never appeared on that show himself off but on live in copenhagen lira plays piano sings and offers a running commentary on one of his famous songs the elements in which he borrows varos familiar melody from a gilbert and sullivan operetta to accompany a list of the elements in the periodic table. He even provides an update to his material. Here's a song i always get requests for but i can't understand for the life of me. Why <hes> it's simply the names of the chemical elements set to a gilbert and sullivan tune. I think the only reason i do it is to see if i can try <music> morning aluminum selenium and hydrogen and oxygen nitrogen rhenium and they commune neptunium germanium iron emma ruthenian uranium european konia museum vanadium and latinos canals me monastic c._n._n. Radioman gopro him in indium and gallium and i._d. And thorium and william and sally mckinney born again tamerlane even strontium in silicon and silver in business for me. Let the umbrella in barium. I left out one. Actually a new one was discovered since the song was written. It's called laurentian so those of you who are taking notes can write it down in your programs and as an added bonus at the end of that same song lear tops he's new update by providing an older one a sort of brief musical pre thank you you might be interested to know that there's an older much earlier version of that song which is due to aristotle and which goes like this there's earth and and air and fire and water to a tom lehrer and i am one hearing these long buried gems and alternate lyrics is like listening listening to one of the new multi cd remastered releases of vintage beatles albums after more than fifty years were getting to enjoy newly released treasures from the vaults and leyrer was recording the same time as the beatles in. Tom liras case. This concert was an absolute rarity for the reclusive mathematician who retired from performing after only a few years and in the be natural d._v._d. The treasure unearthed or more than a century old. Both of these artists the forgotten alice gibney in the reclusive. Tom lehrer would themselves make wonderful subjects for scripted movie biographies in the meantime. We have a rich sampler sampler of their respective works and that's a great start. David been coolly is editor of the website tv worth watching and teaches tv and film history get ruined university in new jersey. He reviewed be natural. The untold story of alice gibney and tom lehrer live in copenhagen as inspired fired by our great american scientists such as dr verner brown gath- around while i sing you of earth one brown how a man whose allegiance is rude by expedience. Call him a nazi. He won't even from nazi schmaltzy. She says barron are fun but don't say that he's hypocritical say rather that he's he's a political once. The rockets are up vazza. Come down. That's not my department says van on monday. Show our guest will be journalists. Stephen kinzer whose new book poisoner in chief is about the man behind the c._i._a. Secret experiment with l._s._d. And other drugs in the fifties and sixties in search of a drug that could be used to control the minds of enemies allen ginsberg and ken keesey were introduced to l._s._d. Through the program but other unwitting subjects and prisons and detention centers were subjected to psychological torture hope you can join us fresh. Air's executive producer is danny miller. Our technical director and engineer is audrey bentham with additional engineering support from joyce lieberman and julian alien herzfeld. Our associate producer for digital media is molly seavy nesper. Roberta shorrock directs the show for terry gross. I'm davis <music> <music>.

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Taking the Leap to Independence  Heres how one advisor team reached their full potential.

Success Zone

23:21 min | 1 year ago

Taking the Leap to Independence Heres how one advisor team reached their full potential.

"I remember waking up at three thirty in the morning was worried about letting Jilin Nancy down because at that point I was thinking. Oh my gosh you know I feel like I brought them down this road. And what if it doesn't work and that was the first time might confidence wavered a little bit meet? Dustin at that time he was a successful investment advisor at a large wirehouse firm and he decided to leave to strike out and start his own firm as an independent registered investment advisor and honestly. It wasn't the risk that was costing him his sleep. It was the fact that he felt responsible for his two closest office partners. Jilin Nancy who were leaving with him. What if the plan didn't work? I thought Oh man I could be ruining everybody's lives what he didn't know at the time was how much faith is partners had in him. He didn't realize how the power of having team is. What would help them succeed. Welcome to your insider's guide to becoming an independent registered investment advisor or RIA. I'm Jerry Cobb senior business consultant at Charles Schwab and this is how I became an independent. Ria An original podcast from Schwab Advisor. Services you get to the point you know what the risk I could take to even be. Independent is absolutely worth it by felt apprehensive nece nervousness but yet excitement. You know that you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Really everything we wanted was possible even when it's hard or more than you thought you still got to do it. Everything that stopped me from taking that next step was just fear and that fear was in the way of me actually being fulfilled complete freedom and happiness is been the result advisors often take different paths to independence and find success some choose to go independent as individuals while others prefer to start a firm with a team. Today we'll look at how the independent Ria firm altus wealth group got off the ground. It's a story about the role. A team played in inspiring a successful transition to independence. We'll also check in with an expert on big transitions and the power of partnership and as always will get a little practical advice and bust a few myths about the Ria Journey. So you can learn from others as you consider your own path forward. So let's start with the decision. That almost didn't happen. Let's start with Dustin. My income is higher than most people. I've got two kids and a wife and a house and were doing the American dream and in it is beautiful and it's great. I go work I come home. Dustin is describing what life was like working at an investment firm in Colorado Springs. He was in his late thirties and had been with this company for over fifteen years. Work was predictable. The money was good. Life was great. It felt like we could keep along that path forever and that was fine. You know that was one way to live. Most of Destin's work. He did with two other senior financial advisers. Nancy and Jill. Jill had been at the company for most of her career. I had been there for thirty years and so I always thought I would stay there. I would retire. They're the same was true for Nancy. I never thought that I would be jumping ship. Let's let's put it that way. But as the months and years ticked by something. Intangible started GNAWING. Sometimes they talk about it Jill Nancy night several times. These conversation really well are we. We're happy we're all making good. Money clients are happy. The other side you it was. Am I really living up to my potential over time? The teams priorities shifted. Jill for instance bought a house in Michigan. Pretty far from the Colorado office she dreamed of working remotely but company policy meant that dream would be next to impossible. I was being given a lot of of restrictions which really made it such that. I couldn't work for the clients and do everything that I wanted and needed to do with them. Remotely Mansi also wanted more freedom. She was a seasoned adviser but felt like she was being treated like a novice. I understand that large warehouses have to protect their business on all levels but there should not be a need to have chains or restrictions that you can't do this and you can't do that and I think more than anything that's what I started to experience their frustration mounted all they knew was they wanted more wanted something better and it became ridiculous to us. You get to the point where you're like. You know what I. I'm met a place where the risk I can take to be so much better is is absolutely worth it. They have no idea what options existed for them. It was vision but without a plan. Dustin started some initial research. He learned about hybrid models independent broker dealer models. He explored opportunities at other wire houses but every time he came back to the team agree that it still didn't feel right. So here's what I will tell you. We'll be the shift for me. A day came when package landed on gills lap. It was standard marketing mailer. Any advisor might receive an in it. It explained the RIA business model and how it worked. I handed it to Dustin. She didn't WanNA head to me but but I was kind of the designated person and she knew is frustrated and I said you know if ever we were to do anything this would be the platform that I would consider and with that he was off. Dustin rolled up his sleeves and learned everything he could about the RIA model. I had lots of meetings with attorneys with compliance people with technology people and air all aspects. You know that. Make the Business Ron. And the more. He learned the more information he brought back to his colleagues and the more excited they became when Dustin started talking about it. I knew that okay. I have got to open my mind to this and learn and he was excited in had all kinds of information. Just very motivated. It was time to make a call. Stay or go. Dustin was out in his truck when Joe Garden on the phone and it was about of five thirty or six o'clock one one afternoons. In the fall I remember I was I was headed. I live in the mountains and so I'm driving up and I knew there was a dead spot just ahead of me. We were in this conversation of. Oh yeah this is a great idea. Kind of rehashing. What we'd already talked about and I'm going to pull over and we're finishing this tonight and so pulled over skit on the side of the road and dust is going all over and and my first question is if we're going to do this. Let's pick a date silence for a second and because I thought we don't pick a day then it's not real. The only thing that I remember is is in terms of a date. We said may thefts Cinco De Mayo. For whatever reason we would celebrate. Yes this was absolutely a go now. It was real now. They had to make it happen now. They had to get to work. There was plenty to do not to mention the responsibilities. They still had to their existing clients. You it to your clients to continue to do business as normal. 'cause you always want to give them your all and you couldn't say anything absolutely not months of checklists months of paperwork months of decisions on everything from setting up compliance to picking out office chairs that even though the path to independence had been blazed before and resources and infrastructure. Were there to support them. Dustin still felt anxious about the decision. I think what I was more worried about was leading Jilin Nancy. Down because at that point I was thinking. Oh my gosh you know I feel like I brought them down this road. And what if it doesn't work and that was the first time I I might. Confidence wavered a little bit and I thought Oh man I could be ruining everybody's lives doubt. Fear nerves all of that manifested itself at one point or another throughout their transition. Eventually the team had everything locked into place. We were ready. The officers ready I was. I kept checking things You know we had phone lists ready to call clients. All they really needed now was their license from the Securities and Exchange Commission. They did their paperwork than they. Wait and wait it. We did not know when the SEC would approve us every day. We were checking. Are We approved? Are We reapproved now? Every day doesn't have to print out those resignation letters and we were carrying with us. Then I start losing sleep over. What if what if our clients don't come? What if they don't understand or care about our story and and that was all scary for me constant level of stress and anxiety till we left definitely it really intensified because you're so close and but at any minute you now it can all blow up in your face fortunately they. How do each other's backs? It was such a great thing to have partners to lean on to talk through the difficulties as we as we came along so if one of us was kind of down other to pull us up I mean we would not allow each other to fail finally admit mid mate the SEC license came through it was time to resign and launch their independent. Ria for more all there at six thirty in the morning super nervousness. Like you're about to get on a roller coaster and your cited about it but you're also afraid. My stomach was just full of butterflies. Wanted to be there waiting so that we could resigned as early as possible and get a start on our day. And so you know you're wandering around the office waiting for the first manager to come in and it was a long moment as people are showing up to work. Were saying goodbye to everybody and telling them what we're doing. Our officers are cleaned out. They know they know we're not going to be there. I remember it was the operations manager and as soon as he saw us together she knew that was a weird feeling too. Because you know for me. Thirty years of working their hand him a piece of paper the resignation letter. I think I'd printed twelve times with differ dates. And they go okay. Hand me your keys. Hand them their keys. Okay thank you see you later. And he said you know I'm really sorry to see go and Gave Hogs and fowls it. Our feeling was just ecstatic. Walked out the door. We walked down to our new location. I'm walking really fast because I want to get open up the opposite when you get started you just want to begin your new life so to speak as an independent walked in that door then. It was kind of a feeling of how here we are then. It was immediate realization. This is what we did. Now it's time to work. Dustin Jill and NANCI opened the doors to altus wealth group. They're independently owned. Ria On may nineteenth two thousand seventeen. I'm sure you're wondering how's business right? Well we'll find out when we check in with Dustin a little later in the show but first let's see what we can learn from how this team managed their transition together. I think it's powerful that Dustin Jilin. Nancy saw themselves as a really strong unit Nicolay. Turner is a managing director of business consulting at Charles Schwab. She helps. Independent advisors are their businesses for growth and take advantage of opportunities overcome challenges. The reason why they felt like such a strong unit was because they shared a common purpose. And that's really important for our as to know their y or to have a purpose and that bans people together even if they have different ideas about how the business should be run or you know what its eventual future will look like and it's not only a shared purpose or vision. That makes a strong team so a high performing team is one in my opinion that first of all they have that component of trust but they also then recognize that each of them brings something different to the table. Have a diversity of talent. True team works interdependently and when they can leverage each other's strengths and talents an emotional support. Then they can create that synergy. Which is you know being able to get something greater from working together than they could from the some of each of their efforts and that is really. I think when that comes together and they create that synergy that's what creates these amazing thriving are as also obviously great communication being able to talk to one another being able to make things really explicit. That goes into that vision again. It's really about the clear picture. Not necessarily how grandiose the vision is and Dustin story is typical in that at the end of the day. His team felt a great sense of satisfaction about their choice. I think that in the going independent is such a success story because of what happens to the folks after they've gone independent so that sense of building their own business building their own firm. That pride in ownership is very common and really the freedom. It's oftentimes the freedom to do. What's best for clients? The freedom to be able to serve clients in the way that they have wanted to the way that they feel is best suited to their interest. They grow fast. They retain a high percentage of the clients that they were serving before so the independent story is really a success story. Mickley Turner is a managing director of business consulting. Charles Schwab if there's one looming anxiety that hangs over the heads of every advisor considering independence. It's questions about clients. Will they understand my decision? Will they follow? It's been two years. Since alters. Wealth Group opened. Its doors and I wanted to know how they tried to answer those questions for themselves. I ran numbers as low as twenty five percent of our clients. Moving almost like nobody was ever a false. I thought okay. That's as good as it's GonNa get but when I started to clients if felt like every single call everyone was excited was how do I move. And how does this work? That was super surprising to me. So it sounds like you were able to retain the the majority of not all of your clients is at that right. Yes I I run those numbers. A lot and I think is close to ninety five percent was the size of your business when you were at the wirehouse. And what is the size today? As measured by either clients or assets under management both so our assets under management today are higher than they were before manage right around two hundred twenty five million and our client number is lower. There are so many clients that we had to service at our former firm that we really didn't have a choice whether we service them or not. Now we do so now. We can provide better service to those clients and we're growing. What would you have done? Differently would didn't pan out the way you had expected. You know there are a couple different things that we relied on. One of them was our phones so I hired this via voip company of voice over Ip Company to get a phone numbers and we find out the first day. We're in here that although is our same area and it was a local number two hundred miles south of us and so when local clients were calling from their home phone they. Wh had to call a long distance number. It was a big deal. We do so much business over the phone that I thought we have just destroyed our business bought. It wasn't a big deal at all when we ended up having to change those numbers and I don't think anyone even remembers what those numbers were. The other part was we we hired a HR company do payroll for us and they didn't really understand our business. I think it was a call. We did just on price sell. Oh well they're they're the cheapest one there is just payroll for a few of us. We can let them do it. We ended up changing them out within a couple months. And what about For you and your team teammates there On a personal level. How has the transition impacted your personal lives? Nancy just had her second grandchild. She spent a month and a half almost away from the office. Still working remotely. Which was impossible before. Jill spends her summers in Michigan. Still working and her her winters in for me. I look at mostly my kids. I young two young children. They both want to be entrepreneurs. And that's something that they saw firsthand and it is really changed. Their outlook on life so kind of summing up. What would be the advice? You'd give someone else who might be in the shoes that you were in a couple of years back considering a possible move to the independent model. I would say if if you're considering it all dear self a favor and go talk to somebody who's already done it. Spent a few hours with them and go through all those aspects because it's likely the fears or the concerns that you have are not really founded. I believe that any advisor that has a good practice where they're trying to do the right thing for their clients. They're trying to build wealth further own families in themselves. There's not a better path than than this independent are a model. Dustin bench is one of the three founding members of ultras wealth group there in Colorado Springs. Colorado today's story focused on the power of teamwork. And if you're contemplating a similar cure are a few things to keep in mind. Anxiety is a natural part of change. You need a vision. And it only takes one person to keep that vision. Live for the others and remember. A strong team is built on trust. And it's that profound trust gives a team the confidence to take the League to independence. And when I hear Dustin Story. Here's what inspires me. Most I nearly all of their clients that the wirehouse followed them to independence and that actually alliance with Schwab Zone studies on average independent. Ria's retain eighty seven percent of their clients second. Dustin and his team's transition to independence allow them to build stronger client relationships and have more flexibility in their schedules. All while running thriving firm that is still growing and finally they found the freedom they were looking for to work the way they wanted to and live the life they've been dreaming about and they're not alone thousands of financial advisers across the country. Take the leap and become independent. Ria's each story and each transition is unique but the steps they take and the support they need is often the same learn more lots more about the our model and how Schwab Advisor Services can help you for your own path to independence find US online at Schwab Dot com forward slash. Ria or look for the link in the show description to this episode. I'm Jerry COBB and this is how I became an independent. Ria UNORIGINAL PODCASTS. From Schwab Advisor Services Schwab Advisor Services serves independent investment advisers and includes the custody trading and support services of Schwab. The comments views and opinions expressed in the podcast are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Schwab they're provided for informational purposes only experiences expressed by advisers may not be representative of the experience of other advisers and are not a guarantee of future success the above mentioned firms and their employees are not affiliated with or in -ployees of Schwab unless otherwise noted. They should not be construed as a recommendation endorsement of or sponsorship by Schwab data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However it's accuracy completeness or reliability could not guaranteed copyright two thousand and Nineteen Charles Schwab and Co Inc. All rights reserved member. Sipc independent investment advisers are not owned by affiliated with or supervised by Schwab.

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Competing with Dogs

Canine Nation

13:44 min | 2 years ago

Competing with Dogs

"Welcome to canine nation. It's sunday. January twenty seventh twenty nineteen. This is episode one twenty one. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the podcast. This is Eric Brad. This week. I wanted to talk about competition over the years, my wife, and I have been involved in many Doug sports from obedience to Jila d to confirmation showing and even rally obedience. There are lots of games that we humans have invented to play with our dogs. They're a great exercise in coming up with new things to teach our dogs. And it's a great way to show off the cooperation between dogs, and humans, but competition has a way of bringing out interesting personality traits people, and it can be easy for us to forget that the dog really doesn't have a sense of competition. Oh, sure they may compete for resources in the wild. But I really don't think they understand the rules, or what's at stake in these complicated games. We humans create so I wanted to explore the dynamics of our relationships with our dogs in. The context of those competitive events, and I put my thoughts down in an essay that I call competing with dogs. It seems like there are more dog sports today than ever before. Whether you're passion lies in more traditional sports like obedience tracking or field work like hunting and retrieving or some of the newer sports, like rally obedience free style or barn hunt. There are plenty of opportunities for you to get out and have some fun with your dog every weekend will likely offer you a chance to compete in some funds sports with your dog. Dog owners can prepare rigorously for competition events with their dog frequently dog sports organizations referred to their competition events as trials that offer an opportunity for dog owners to show what they have taught their dogs, and how well or poorly they can perform in the skill tests of that competition, depending on the sport and the level at which you compete. This can be a pretty serious affair there is recognition for achievement at stake, in some cases, even cash prizes trophies and other awards. There may also be a certain amount of personal notoriety at stake for the handler, regardless of which dogs sport. We're talking about. I think it's important to remember that these are games, we invented these games essentially to evaluate our abilities dog trainers to demonstrate the specific skills that we've developed with our dogs, given the cognitive ability. Of dogs. I science currently understands them. It might be interesting to consider if our dogs even have a sense that they're competing at all. Our dogs do know that they're following directions. No matter what the sport we work on training the specific behaviors appropriate. We were Hearst those behaviors for speed, accuracy and fluency under various conditions. And when we feel that we and our dog are ready. We go off to a competition to test our skills against the sports performance criteria, and our fellow competitors. Through it. All I have to wonder how our dogs view are very human passion for these sports as we strive for excellence. It's likely that they see it only as responding to a series of cues to offer us the practice behaviors other than the crowds in the noise. And sometimes the unique equipment directing our dog around in Jilin course, or through an obedient. Exercise is no different than asking our dog for similar behaviors around the house or out of the park. At least from the dog's perspective. I've competed in the sport of dog agility for the last ten years every trial event offers different courses through which I must direct my dog, successfully if I managed to do so without exceeding the allowed number of faults and within the time limit I earn a qualifying score. I have passed that test. If I accrue too, many faults or take too much time. It's. Non qualifying run. And I have failed that test. And this is where things can get strange for the dog. There are any number of ways to fail a trial at an agility competition. My dog could not respond to one of my cues and elect to run past a piece of equipment. They were supposed to do my dog could not jump high enough and knock a bar down with a toenail on the way over my dog might even respond correctly to my physical signal to go to an incorrect piece of equipment when I accident we send her to the wrong place. So it's possible for a dog and handler team to fail to qualify. Even though the dog responded perfectly to all of the signals. They were given by the handler, this is where I think the competition model becomes a challenge for us. We prepare ourselves and our dogs to the best of our ability. And we've put ourselves to the test when it all works. We are justifiably proud of ourselves and our dog. But what happens when it doesn't work? The one thing that our dogs. Definitely know is that they live with us. We provide for them, and I suppose in the larger scheme of things they know that when we are not happy with him things are generally not going to be much fun. When things don't go. Well, when we compete with our dogs, what do our dogs make of our reaction to that disappointment is the handler upset at the dog for their failure to perform or at themselves for not providing what their dog needed to succeed. Most importantly would the dog even understand the difference between those two reactions. Our reaction to success or failure in dog sports can have profound implications on the relationship. We have with our dog dogs are social creatures, and they are always concerned about maintaining a good relationship with their human. Psychology might consider this in the realm of social validation, at least as it applies to humans where we looked to the reactions of others to help us assess the status of our relationship and to choose how to behave in order to make things right? But our dogs are not human. They may not understand that we are upset with ourselves and not with them. Can they even understand this? And how do they respond? Dogs are remarkably observant creatures and in a very real sense. Their wellbeing depends on maintaining a good relationship with their humans sports like Jillette can offer multiple opportunities to mess up even in just running a single course that means that my displays a frustration and disapproval at my own poor handling skills might be apparent to my dog several times in a matter of only a few seconds to make matters worse in that moment. It's likely that I'm not really focused on my dog's emotions only on the pass fail. Test in front of us. One of the agility venues, I've competed in has a rule about approaching obstacle and not performing it on the first try it's called her refusal in that particular venue, a single refusal can result in a non qualifying run a fail for that particular run if this refusal should happen early in. The course the handlers disappointed reaction can have an effect and the dogs performance throughout the rest of the course, the sudden death nature of that particular fault might invalidate all the other good work that the dog may do all hopes for qualifying run are lost in that one moment. That disappointment may very well be read by our dog is a kind of disapproval. And if it happens a lot that can't be fun for the dog. It can be even more frustrating. If my dog is just following the direction that I have given her even if that instruction is being performed badly by nervous and unprepared. Handler over time. Our reactions to what happens during competition can take its toll on my relationship with my dog. Agility tracking rally obedience confirmation showing protection. Sports freestyle, and many others are sports that we have invented each offers its own unique opportunity to teach our dogs of Orion of skills and to test those skills in a friendly spirit of competition. I have chosen to approach these competitions as a means to judge myself against myself as a way to evaluate the work. I've done is trainer and working partner with my dog our roles or clear, my dog is the athlete and the performer out there, and I am the teacher and coach helping her to try to be successful every success my dog, and I enjoy is a point of pride that we have worked together. And that she has learned all the chief needs to be successful at that activity. Every failure is an important indicator that there are skills that are not quite where they need to be when. That means my skills as a handler need to be improved or that. I need to do a better job teaching the skills to my dog, the important thing is that my dog never fails. She was either improperly directed by me or didn't have enough training for me to do the job. I asked for in both cases, the responsibility is mine to go back and try to make it work better. Maintaining a positive relationship with my dog is important to me. The fact that she will show up and be willing to try each time we practice or compete tells me that she's enjoying herself her excited bar and broad smile. As she runs from jump to jump in Jilin is my proudest achievement. My dog Thira was ten years old when I first wrote this and she played Gylfi with me with all the enthusiasm that she showed as a ten month old puppy as I develop my skills, and she learned hers. I tried hard. Not to show any disappointment or frustration at our failures in competition. Putting the relationship I has paid off for both me and my dog. Not everyone that competes with their dog in dog. Sports shares this point of view. I have seen handlers angrily stomp off the course dragging their dog behind them. I have seen handlers. Verbally berating their dog for blowing them off for not responding the way, they thought they should I have seen the disappointment frustration and anger in the faces of handlers. Mirrored in the behavior and body language of their dogs the same dogs that they will take home and want to cuddle with in bed that night. And I wonder what the dog must make of that contrast in behavior. Sure, it's a competition. But it's also a game. And ultimately, it's just life with my dogs. At least that's the way. I think my dog see it. If you enjoy these podcasts, why not drop by our website at canine nation dot CA, and you'll find dozens more to listen to while you're at it, perhaps click on the donate button and offer us dollar or five or whatever you'd like to give to help support the podcast and help us keep the lights on or you can support the podcast by spreading the word on social media or leaving us a review. I'd love to hear feedback from you about the podcast. If you have any comments stories or questions, you can Email me at talk to at canine, nation dot CA. That's talk and the number two at canine, nation dot CA. I look forward to your comments canine nation is also on Facebook. You can find our canine nation page where we post information about the latest articles podcasts and news about canine nation events. We also have a discussion group the canine nation forum. It's a place to discuss the podcast, the canine nation essays life with dogs and training dogs or just share some information, we found around the internet. Thank you for listening. I'd appreciate it. If you share this with the Doug people in your life. I guess that's all for now. Until next time have fun with your dogs.

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S2 Ep. 59 Daeg Faerch - Rob Zombie's Halloween

The Tattness Podcast

34:49 min | 9 months ago

S2 Ep. 59 Daeg Faerch - Rob Zombie's Halloween

"Thank you for listening to this podcast on the totten, his Co. network. Welcome. What's up y'all welcomed the season to Halloween version, the Halloween season of TATA's podcast uncensored. Once again, bring another amazing guest to you. You probably will know him as the young Michael Myers from the Rob Zombie, Halloween reboot my boy day farish, fucking amazing actor and now rapper. So you're not gonNA WANNA miss this. Bro, check it out. The fuck. Jilin Man. Chilin been making some beats today for project dropping in November? It's going to be a boom bop type like trippy like taking some Jimi Hendrix style samples and putting them on some boom bap beats while that bullshit man I fucking love everything about it. I was checking out your shit on Youtube actually the other day. Love it is. By the way Gave like some shit Sala word route. Thank you man I got a lot of it too. I put up last year last year alone fifty songs this year so far I'm already a little over fifty songs I. Need to look up what the Guinness World Book Record is for how many songs dropped in a year makes the most strapped in a year 'cause I bet I'm getting there. Might be a forty year low in that. Hold that title keep a G. Right, I mean like that. Yeah. That's probably your biggest competitors almond say. You know so but you're fucking killing it the. Thank you. I. Love It I. I was like checking in so much shit I'm like, yeah. Oh I I'll just keep going down the rabbit hole because I'm getting caught up. I'm still like you know I was going into like you're acting Shit in Mike I knew you're doing this but like I didn't know where to find it and I'm like fucking I'm dumb Youtube was obviously the go-to at it's also available in my musics on spotify tunes apple like everything besides soundcloud I don't know why I just stop posing the soundcloud a long time ago and I. I like spotify spotify and Youtube Irma is how I listened to music purse right? And I say it sounds time because of the fact that they're limiting how much you can post. Oh Yeah Yeah you have to buy. That because that's actually why I stopped posting because I got to that point. Wilson I delete this. Swat advise much bigger and doesn't fucking ego in like like chaos to have limited that's your here in my you hear my Song Tech Nine, Obscene Corey. Taylor and Tom Morello. A love it, Ralph. So blessed. It's it's I still get shaky. When calls 'cause announced they'll call heightened up or some shit, and I'm just like A. Boss like raw. Flashback to eleven year old me listening to fucking worldwide choppers in finding out about him in bust in the same song in like what the Fuck I love Jack. Corey Taylor's another one I love epic Him I had such a similar life that he's like my go-to like the mother fucker that loved to have much had somebody fucking lessons on my show. But that's a dude. He so busy though it's just not like he's in he's in a howl or he's in a scary movie now I guess that's coming out this month. Yeah. Halloween Daily News posted about it and I saw that Corey Taylor was like one of the leads in it and I was like Shit. Look at you they go get in the movies don't know if he's been doing movies for. L. Needed. Fear Clinic. With Robert and. Oh Nice. You know which fucking amazing. It was a dope fucking movie to. The I Robert Englund glazed writing career fucking Corey Taylor. I might Jesus Rice this is. The coolest bucking thing. which was, of course, as series burs and then movie. And I'm like here's Robert Englund. Again, do fucking movie about people's fears and their dreams and Shit. Just works right but that was cool Yeah. Corey had grow this like pedal mustache. His wife hated it. So here's the. Terrible but I've been speaking of movies man you probably stick it here ship but. I fucking went and saw Halloween Day. Came at the theater where you're in and you're the highlights me of the whole thing honestly no bullshit. Up Your fucking ass over when the knows me knows I don't do that now but. I I literally went into it like if Rob Fox's up because this is one of my favorite movies Allen, I'm GONNA be pissed. I literally to your credit. The second you went at that cat with a baseball that in this fucking theater with the sound. It is not so graphic like visually but the. G.. Rice. I felt like my stomach just turn them because I'm seeing a kid do this like really fucking horrific shit. I'm already a father at this point so. I. Like the innocence of like taking notes like what not to do right. At. This innocence about your charity during that, you will knock beautifully. And then to see this violent act and I'm like I totally get that it's well warranted. But holy. Fuck. It was so sudden ended so barbaric with. That my stomach did backflips I'm like Holy Shit. I'm like this. Data is brilliant and I was like I. Love this cat. And just throughout you kill bit. Like I WANNA see him in more shit because you just honestly were so fucking good. Thank you man well Yeah Shout Out Rob Zombie only been acting for since I can speak really with like a church plays and you know bigger plays and then student films and independent films. It took me about seven years of almost all free work led sweat and tears in the love of my mom love and support a my mom for us to get rob's attention. You know we just hopped in that audition one time and And got it and yet. Big Big banks to him 'cause 'cause a him. I'm the only horror icon in the rap game. I love it right I. Think. That's The biggest like horror fan I like Spooky Shit I like vampires right? You know but. I'm the. Song with ghost main I feel like A music video with both of us could be so aesthetically late like. God type, shit going on. Love that. I don't like the contrast. So cool. I'm the same way to like I'm not the biggest guy because like I really don't love too much gorringe it. I. Think that's why you know when you you did I was like Oh my bought near that was intense Elliott and it wasn't the visual because I'm like I do buy. It was the sound in that theater is like you just heard that hang up a buck in like. You know aluminum bats off some dudes skull. Holy but just knew that heart or oh, my God it was so fucking Dark Ami even in the that one kid he had a common in the woods. Oh Yeah. To see child do that Shit I was like damn son. Is Dark. And that's what makes it so good. But you were just amazing it like everything about everything you did just the small details. Facial. Expressions that go from like super innocent which you pulled up. Beautifully. alikes fuck. But it wasn't like I. Didn't even see is like, oh, he's pretending evil. It's like you really saw this. It is higher. No I wasn't pretending to be evil. I was pretending to be nice. I what I saw was like this kid is tired of being pushed around. Yeah. Having Shit live and for a scene there I was tired of eating a corn candy or candy corn to. Necessarily a horrible. I figured that was probably how they got you into that like my I just eat a bunch candy student walk. Somebody. Deeply into this garbage. Gets good What the food there was amazing I was before Halloween, you know struggling artists and still to this day struggling artist but when I went. So the Halloween set and they had catering the Mexican food in the in the morning and the Italian food at night and all the snacks, the chocolate chip strawberries and shit like that. By the end of my two months filming I didn't fit into the pants anymore like I I grew grew up shit. That's why I was. So chubby on Hancock was because Halloween fat me up for that Shit. I fucking in love I know I promised everybody. October was going to be Halloween season theme shows as do all or shed or paranormal shit whatever. But I've had enough people that New Year coming on the show. That literally says me and I'm Buchan saying there's word for word what they said. You gotta ask him. About being that little shithead from. That got center fucking oblivion. Yeah. I cracked up in like man y'all really hate that character Esser was so funded all my God like well Smith, you know what I'm saying and he's such a nice guy to there was like. A part where they were setting up for the cranes and Yada Yada. That's how they shot me in outer space. We went back who's trailing played some video games for like I at the red carpet he came up to me with his family and was like what's update and that was like the first day Uber for me. So my voice was Bucknell breaking and Will Smith is saying what's up and knows my fucking name I'm trying not to melt and be cool But we'll do. It. I love it man That's fucking hilarious. That's funny. I mean everyone remembers the from that. And I'm you know I'm nice. Don't think we needed seek will a sequel to that where I grew up and I started getting into marijuana and found that I had superpowers to and then saw hancock again and I was like you are the so. And then boom it's bad stone versus a good alcoholic which really doesn't make sense. You would think it would be the other way around but fuck it. Fuck Shit Up. Someone your own size Dr. Combat. Fuck Shit. I got on my side now what's up? Love I got a mother fucking named after a gun. I need to have tacked on my show to this. fucking amazing is cool. Right and hotson another one I want to get on my show. I, need to meet hops, and so we haven't I didn't record with any of them. The only person that I've actually talked to from that song is Tech Nine I. Think we're GONNA do a music video I hope. So he keeps saying we will. Fund Story About Hobson when I was eighteen, I went to a concert of Hopson. And he was like all everybody rapper nowadays raise your hand if you're an MC and I'd only been rapid for like two years was pretty fucking trashed but I was like, fuck it raised my hand me and six other people got pulled up to the stage to like spit hot sixteen type Shit. Best I wasn't the worst actually took the microwave from somebody who's like shouldn't should never hold one of these again in your life I was like damn that's kind of hooked up but I wonder if and when I really need him if like I'd be like, yeah what's up man and like give them that I contact like you should remember me Loki and see like Oh man yeah. Brought you up your trash. Damn. Yeah. He's not even in the states rate now. I think he's in somewhere in northern Europe. Yeah. Like last night. He's like Oh. Oh yeah because he yeah, that's I. Think he was out there when corona yeah. So he was like I'm stuck. Right right. So it's Kinda, weird and his gums Jilin here. I'm not even mad when I got here. Then all that madness that's going on, you know honestly man, there's social distance stuff me and my mom are both Kinda like we're not doing those people people take shit and it's like man as an artist like. Okay I'll just chill at home avoid stay away from six feet sixteen man like you know what I'm saying it's I'm chilling. Right I'm the same way. I had Sherry Nelson On, my show one time, and then I was on the show cheese on and we're friends now. And she's done the maximum magazine model thing in the actress thing in all that great shit. and. Shot her a message that said Man. y'All don't get it. I'm so fucking insure a especially after all the famous ship from last five years. and I've always been that way before being famous and Shit. Like. You're one of eight people to have my phone number. And like you don't even realize like I'm not exaggerating like you are one of eight people that have my functioning phone number. L.. That's how fucking little I trust people I feel that. So that lets you know when I Give you fucking. Like pass or like I shoot your message or something to get into my life as a person. Like I trust you is luck in. Value you to some degree that like. I'm Lsu in my life. That's like here's a friend of quest. Means I fucking actually a normally unwanted against the friend west of quality over quantity for sure. Yeah as a young adult. I went through that teenage shit where I had a whole bunch of friends and then all of a sudden I was like wait I really only have a couple of friends but that's okay. I don't need all that bullshit. Exactly. If I'd choose them resumes sending me requests. That means something to me because that's my choice I'll after bunch be will accept. Must Fans I. Don't accept them as friends like you're not GonNa know my personal shared. You're not gonNA suck in you know if I send it to them. It's like I value you as a person. That's the difference you know what I mean. If you send an e I'm not saying if you send me, you can't earn that. But now I feel ma walls around. The Senate is because I see something there when my mom knew I was about to start driving she told me one thing and I took it onto life to pretend that every body on the road is an idiot because most of them are so now instead of getting mad every time, somebody's an idiot you're used to it and you're driving defensively but then you're happy when somebody's not an idiot take that to real life just expect that they're fucking idiot until they prove you're not and then and then it's like Oh, look at you I like you because you're not a fucking idiot right that is Valuable, sucking like evaluation. Ever heard. that. That is literally simplifying. Super Complex Yeah Oh. Yeah. Mom's got the power he filming. She's always had the DEG translators when I was young sometimes a director wouldn't be able to get you know be like you know some people just don't talk to a kid. They've never had a kid don't know how to explain shes of they'd tell it to my mom and she'd like translate it to me, and then I'd be like again it. I've never known my mother. So I'm gonNA take her advice Elliott ain't. GonNa Lucky you know I I'm in I've pretty much follow that already smart I don't keep a lot of people to close. If I choose somebody to be close at good reason. And I've learned in the last five years. When people do ask me. There's a reason and it's not for my benefit. It's for there's. Is Who I am. It's what I can offer. It's you know. You. Know I'm friends a lot of fucking high profile people. I've become stupid high-profile. Myself. For what I've done. that. People will use you for everything they can get they will ed you though they've never had a conversation with you. And it's not be. Rams for I. Love Instagram Outlet, all the followers you post your content they like it all sometimes, you get the haters personally I like to. If I see hater today I had a hater actually because I did a Michael Myers Monday. Host nonsense. It's Halloween I try not to like state like do too much Michael Marsh because, yeah. That was a long time ago. I have done so much more sits back and this one shake. Starts Hating just Hayden Hayden. Hayden all you're non, you're five minutes of Fame Yada Yada. So I corrected her when she was wrong Hancock pushing daisies. Now, my music now other TV shows now movies with no will g and other big people like that. I hope you find your light. You know what I'm saying. That's how I always respond to the haters. It's like if if there's fall shipping stated corrected and then I wish you the best and even then couple of my fans you know they're like Oh. Yeah, Fuck Ya dig they started talking shit on this hater and I had to step in and still my fans like, Hey, always spread is love and positivity. They're so caught up in their negativity we can only hope hope that they find. They're like I don't have the patience to walk with anybody to find their fucking light but I can wish you the best I love that I think that's sparking slash man. because it's true. and. There's going to be he will that. Like I don't get it. I really don't. You have access to the Internet to talk Shit. So you have the same access to fucking do your research before you say stupid shit that makes you look. Idiot yeah. I don't even try to. Worry about like what the? Hell they. Call this I was talking to my mom about it. Rob did a Joe Rogan right. And they were talking about haters and he he was saying he used to. And of course when you get your I hate. Out that sucks like bucket negativity I don't need that Shit, but then. Look Hating most of the time they have no room to hate and so it's like, all right. Whatever I mean I'm sorry you're not happy with where you are in life. Wish you the best, right. You know. It's money if somebody hot shit about me. I'm like okay. Show. Me What you've done. But when joint high school good job. I've accomplished what I have and I'm a high school dropout. Yeah. So. You know what does it say for you? Mother fuckers off. What I take issue is when people shit on the Halloween Rob Zombie fucking remake and whatever. Because to me, it's not just shitting on Rob shitting on you which I thought you did a fucking amazing job I think Robin Amazing job. I. Think the whole fucking thing I loved it makes huge like original version fan but I also loved what he did. And I. Really, fucking agitates. May. As when people say, Oh, this motherfucker dislike destroyed the fucking franchise. How A remake does not mean the original longer exists you can't get again right and they've made other ones since then are continuing to make the franchise and it still goes on. explained to me how fuck rugs ruined right explain explain to me how rob's version is worse than art five parts six all right. There a couple Halloween's where there's no Michael Myers. Park Mike Myers isn't in it at three? Yeah. You know like which is great as a stand alone by itself if you don't consider a Halloween movie. And you're right because originally what John Carpenter's plan was was just gotTa make the Halloween. Series a series of different stories I o see I don't honestly I've only seen the original and mine. See so that yeah, it's a weird thing right where he wants to do part one. Then, they he reluctantly did part you. Want to do a part. With art three, he wanted to kind of go to original plan. Of let's make the seer, the Halloween series. Not about a character that would make sense i. you know like Yeah Right. So let's make it about different stories in each one will be this one about a witch will that's what three was season of the witch. was actually about some fucking psycho pass that a masks, the headship in them. So when children like it would encourage children to watch it while wearing the masks and what the chip would do was causing it to melt there fucking heads Oh God right? Really Weird. But. Like eighties horror movie for sure right but. Here's where it ties in Kinda funny where it was like a protocol and it wasn't going right. And it seemed like the plan was that the mass chip would make them like brainwashed. So, now you go into like. Theory of what if the Myers mass from part one worked? It made him just snap. In. His head. Yeah and that's why he can't die because the mask is controlling him. Amass right if the fucker that is where this is where Halloween now connects with wizard of Oz and it's the odds that's controlling the mass, right? So. Not Really Bizarre and it was like Oh that that makes sense that could be. Halloween twenty eighteen actually has the mass from part three in it as an Easter Egg. That's cool. Kids Alex near Yeah Yeah Yeah they're having fun with it. Right so I think that's kind of cool. See now, we just need to catch up on that many hancocks just staring will smith and I and. It'll it'll be a better world. I'm not GonNa Bullshit I got solved the fuck with the ROB A. Remake of the second one and you weren't in it I. Yes. It took me out of it. But. I understood why? Because they are trying to do flashbacks and obviously your age would have been different yet so it wouldn't work but as like. Who they picked is not the same buck. You know not not disrespect that kid. but it wasn't you and I was like that takes me out of it. I just got salty about it a little bit and I was like Oh that sucks. You know. I mean Hell. A lot of people shit on the second one more so than the first. You get these fucking. You know elitist that. Say anything beyond the original chant as they WANNA share on rob every chance they get. But there are some that are like, I, liked the first one not gonNa lie is the second one I didn't. Honestly, any major character in any story ever deserves an origin story and that's kind of what I gave Michael Myers and I think that's that ass I loved it. That's what I loved about it and that's it. You know a lot of people like. You killed the character by GonNa backstory rob. You WanNa know like dude like. Where did fucking the silver surfer come from where you know like what like I want you know I don't get that complaint I'm like really at the end of the day if you watch six Parsons Goddamn movie eventually you're GonNa be like okay. So why is this motherfucker just psychopath? He was a kid at one point right? Right. You know he started when he was a kid. So what's The backstory? The same people that are making that argument saying, he should never have had that are the same stupid mother fuckers that are like. Does anybody else want to see a Prequel to nightmare on ELM street to see why Freddie was the way he was as a human. I would. I'd watch that right but it's like wait what you just said Michael Myers should not have a backstop spanking. But you WANNA know what Freddie's is. Are you not. Understanding the contradiction between your statements here on. backstory is not caring right like the social media really make people that retarded that like. What's happened is we all really think that like our opinion matters you know like it really really matters like. We all have I've got plenty of opinions EFL May on every single topic there is I have an opinion on it as we all do right and I feel like. social media may be the soapbox for those who've never made it famous status. that. Just, one of you'll important they gotta say some shit that's going to row people up. So. Then they feel like they got their fifteen minutes 'cause that's the best they can Buchan do. And that's why I don't engage in that bullshit and what does that say always figured like 'cause I'm an actor before everything else like that's drama. So I take care of my drama with my work and I don't need to deal with any drama outside of work. You know I feel bad for you was like what's going on right now with you 'cause I came prepared. Oh Man I'm going to have to hop off this call in a couple minutes. anyways. I got some studio work going down in like fifteen twenty minutes but. I'll be catching up there real quick. Yeah. Because it doesn't fucking smoke with you as my. You're in Canada though. So after this whole. Thing hopefully, my music will be popping up to at least do like a North American tour if not a world tour at that point and the I'll be I'll be fucking around Blazin it up. We're going to have to do that. Shit I honestly. I don't want take up all your damn time before you got your shit do. What was your favorite last walking question than? What was your favorite aspect of dealing with that movie? Because fuck knows everybody wants to know about that God damn movie. So let's fuck and get an AD. There's a couple. Killing Darrell tomorrow with the stick was epic. That was. Coming into into the movie Halloween I knew who? Malcolm McDowell Tyler Mane and Darryl Bar. So that was fun I was like, fuck? Yeah. I'm killing a spike and we had five sticks and like rob just kept telling me to go harder and harder in they're made out of Styrofoam, So they kept breaking and then we were on the last one he was like okay. Take it a little softer now. also. Because I had seen clockwork orange and a couple other I think Malcolm McDowell pieces. I was beyond honored. To work like face to face that scene where I'm crying with him, completely Improv rob was like y'all are awesome I want some more shit with you guys in it, and that's yeah we did that Oh and then three also coming home and telling my friends that I grow up to become sabertooth that was pretty cool to. Older, fucking, Sabertooth. I fucking love it because I'm a huge Malcolm. McDowell's. This motherfucker guests to work with Malcolm. My. My Hat's off to you met. I. Don't know if it's because he's British but I think you might be one of the most fine tuned. I've ever worked with type of Shit. No doubt. I mean he's is fucking intelligent cat helvin actor I. Love Clockwork Orange I have a long sleeved shirt actually aware today but muggy and hot mic. Nice Been Hot as hell out here to dude it's. So I was like black men that would have been perfect timing but Faulk man like I was like that's so cool to work with Malcolm. And tyler main course than the man all these scouts scowl was fun to work with I. Didn't know who she was but obviously, I learned who she was and I had been a crush on her You've only I was eleven I think she was just turning eighteen I think at one point she kissed me on my feet and I know I turned red right? I love her like she's amazing. Fuck everybody in that was amazing. Oh. Yeah Hanna Hall I think I know of course hand always unforced ron type phony. Danielle Harrison. Doris I mean Shit I grew up watching hearing everything from like Halloween to Roseanne. To. You know she's done everything so but. Fuck man you've done so much already it's only gonNA go better from ear you're killing everything you do. I hope to have you on again men anytime. You want open doors. And Was Awesome talking to you got much more your time because he got shipped with do. And I don't want to give you like one minute Sir fucking. Go to that. I appreciate you, man. Is Awesome. I hope EXP- EXPE-. Season is awesome. fucking stay in touch. Everybody watching make sure you follow my instagram. It's great deg that's one word. It's the same with my spotify tunes and all that Jazz for you to the music videos just type in my first name Dag D. A. Eeg Hell, yeah essentially bucket brand-new Prestia the message. Yeah. Did Up. Yeah, I feel important. Appreciate your brother. Thanks for your. Contact you. All right y'all how cool is that DIG Fares Awesome Guy. Amazing human being amazing actor CPR dope conversation and I look forward to the rest of the guest. In this Halloween season it's going to be awesome dude I've got CJ Graham you know him as Jason Voorhees Friday, the thirteenth part six and many others coming on the show it's going to be dealt. I. Can't wait. I'll catch your assets later. Bro. Destruction of the. Yes.

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Wildlife

Pop Culture Happy Hour

16:05 min | 2 years ago

Wildlife

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from internet essentials from Comcast. Connecting more than six million low income people to low cost high speed internet at home. So students are ready for homework class graduation and more. Now, they're ready for anything. The film of wildlife tells the story of a marriage in crisis in nineteen sixties Montana based on a novel by Richard Ford and directed by actor Paul dano. It's told from the point of view of the young teenager watching his family fall to pieces played by Carey mulligan and Jake Jilin hall. The couple struggles with his desire to provide an her need to look outside her home for happiness. I'm Stephen Thompson. And I'm Linda Holmes. We're talking about wildlife on this episode pop culture happy hour, so come right back. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from mail chimp, it might sound like male champ just does Email marketing, but they actually do a lot more to help your business grow because growth looks different to everyone. Male champ helps guide you to the right marketing decisions for your business from audience management to ad campaigns and automation, mail chimp. They do more than male welcome back. You just met NPR music's Stephen Thompson. Also with us is Glen Weldon of the NPR arts desk, Glenn and in our fourth chair today. It's always a treat to have with us, our friend, Katie Presley. Hi, Katie Howdy. Katie comes from among other places among other homes. Not exactly Montana. Right. People are actually exactly from Montana. So one of the things I find fascinating about this film is that the backdrop of Montana is present because there are wildfires in the film, and because you sometimes go out there. But a lot of it takes place in the house. And they make very judicious use of that backdrop, Katie, what did you think of the use of the kind of the Montana setting in the film? Yes. So Montana's, the Big Sky state, and it takes place in Helena. So it's town. I mean, it's the city, but immediately like one block off of main street, you're in the country and in Montana the country is so big Montana in this film was like the character that made all the other characters. Look like a bunch of nothing. Yeah. You know? And so when you have all of this drama in the house, if you're me, and you're thinking about the out of doors all the time, which I think you're supposed to be the cost of phobia of indoors is heightened by the fact that outside you know, there is just expanse. Yeah. To just set up. What's happening? This film a little bit more it's wildfire season. And Jake Jilin hall has lost his job at a golf course. And wants to go off. And fight the fire because the well-known habit of the men who fight the wildfires. Is that you go fight the wildfires until it starts to snow, and then they end, and you can come home. So he wants to kind of go and fight the wildfire until the snow comes which becomes a sort of a. I mean, I don't think it's a spoiler to say. It's a metaphor forever. But it becomes kind of the approaching wildfire. The wait for the snow to come. And ultimately the kid Joe in the house with his mother waiting for the father to come back. But maybe not Glenn. What did you think of this phone? Well, I read the Richard Ford novel along longtime ago, I I should say this film will be talked about an Oscar season, your parents and your aunts and uncles are going to ask about it at thanksgiving dinner, and they will get the name wrong. They're going to call it wildfires. Eight is wildlife there yourself born they're gonna screw it up because it's inevitable the novel blend it in my mind with a lot of other memoirs and autograph novels from sensitive straight white dudes who are reading his kids watching the parents or watching the outside world, you're Tobias Wolff. Your Frank, Conroy, Rick moody, Stuart Divac, Robert shawny blended. Right. And I think this is a very risky film to adapt. Because even the Richard Ford is a kind of minimalist objective assed. His writer's voice is how you're seeing the events. Right. And he's striving to be a kind of a clear window pane through which you see the events. And he strived to keep judgment out of the book. But when it does bubble up it's devastating the scene in the book where the kids sends his father off on the wagon father goes away to fight the wildfire. The kid thinks to himself that he was happy that he was going to a fire now to risk whatever he cared about risking, right? That sounds kind of passive aggressive just out of context. But in context without all that other kind of absolutely clear polluted pros, you're like. Wow. If we got that moment in ration- in this film. It would sit there because it just wouldn't work. I was so happy when this when we got like three minutes in and I realized it was not going to be in the Irish that's very important. So Ed, oxen, bold. That's where all of that work narrative work is being done plays the kid and feels like forty percent of this film is just a close up of that kids face. It's all reaction shots, which of course, is the one thing you don't get when you read the novel. You get the events you do not get a a real good sense of what's happening to this kid 'cause he's telling you the story after a while. You start thinking about how many different ways are there to look worried. There's another one I think what the crowd that. I was with interpreted that as what I interpreted as was you are seeing this marriage only as this kid sees it. You don't really have any scenes where away from the kid. You have the couple arguing the main argument that they have about the father going off to fight fires. You pick it up only when a kid gets home, and there's clearly already been a massive amount of arguing that if it didn't have that POV as part of the story. You would see a big fight between Jilin hall and Carey mulligan before it blows up, and I wanna come back to you in a second. But I want to get over to even what did you what did you think of this? I was really impressed with how so many of these shots were framed. It's a very very pretty movie to look at it does a beautiful job of capturing the way small town life can incorporate all these views of expenses and also feel incredibly as Katie said. Claustrophobic that you can get a sense of the limited choices that these characters feel they are facing, and as a portrait of divorce I was really interested in and moved by the way, this film presents the relationships between each parent and the kid what you often don't see in movies about kids who are going through divorce is the phenomenon of apparent over sharing with their kid because they have no one else to talk to young and both parents do that to this kid all through this movie. And you get a sense watching it if like that poor kid off at porchet all them working and sometimes it's played for a kind of squirmy laugh in this extended vary. Awkward scene involving his mom, but then like he meets up with the dad, and there's another the kid has to manage his parents. Feelings again, it's kind of the story of this kid having to be there for his parents when his parents should be there for him. That's what has really stuck with me. And I think one of my favorite things about the story. When I first started watching it because I think this is sort of how I'm trained to think about divorce films and parenting films, particularly if they're satisfied back as nineteen sixty. I'm either looking for it to be about the dad is a jerk, and the mom is long suffering and resilient or the mom is a jerk. And the dad is just trying his best and neither one of those dynamics the one there were times in this film, where I thought, oh where they're going is that the mother is decent and resilient and the father is a flake. And there were moments where I thought, oh, no where they're going is that the mother is inappropriate with him. And you know, kind of is all over the place and inconsiderate of him and the father it's actually going to turn out is sort of. In the end, the good one. And that will be what it is. And it's neither of those things. You can't get comfortable in either of the parents being the good guy or the bad guy. And I also really appreciated that gene K Molins character falls apart while we don't have the flail of the father. And so we have to judge or not judge her just because we know what she's going through Stephen was talking about this movie as a portrait of a small town to me, the most detailed portrait of a small town comes in fact, that her only friend is her kid she has to tell him. Well, she certainly doesn't have to. But. Tell him really inappropriate things and take him really inappropriate places in do inappropriate things around and sort of in front of him. I was really pleased with the complexity of her character being allowed to make us so uncomfortable because her reactions are not stock her actions might be I mean, her actions you've probably seen before. And this is why a plot summary of this film does a grave disservice. 'cause she may or may not have an affair spoiler, whatever. But well, it's the first sentence of the novel. Okay. This starts out very like the father center playing catch outside and she's making dinner. That's where we start to. Right. And we go someplace else, and then we get there because when the father decides to go away something inside her quietly quietly quietly snaps, and it's not outrage in scene following that the cadastre a question, and she says, why does it matter? That's the break. Right. She goes to a place of sort of existentialist crisis, not rage hedonism anything like that it is much more subtle than that. And that's you know, they had this giant frequent metaphor in the middle of this movie in the middle of this novel to and we don't see it much. And when we do see it we do see it in a way that it's it's kind of held back from us for a long time in a reaction shot from the kit again. And while the mom is saying things that do not sound like the things a mom would say we're forced to confront her and try to figure out what's going on. While this thing. This giant wildfire is burning. Everything to the ground handled that big Hunkin metaphor in a really clever way. Yeah. One of the things I like about the film so much is that it feels personal in a way that sometimes I time features from first time directors, which Paul dano is here don't feel. I think that the screenplay which is by him and his partners because an is. So like, it's so intimately made and the film is so intimately directed and so patient and a lot of times with first time films, particularly from actors or people who are already somewhat known you'll see a fair amount of kind of showing us or or a desire to kind of be directory. It's not that the film is not mindfully directed. But it didn't feel frantic to me. It didn't feel frantic to prove its director nece the thing that I noticed the most visually when I watched it, and I was very much under the influence of some of those like, Tom and Lorenzo posts about show. Sharp objects and mad men, and some of those wonderful things where they talk about what people are wearing and what matches and doesn't the use of color in. This film is really interesting. If you go into it looking for that, you will see the color blue is sort of the color of the dad and the kid and the original notion of the family, and there's a moment when Carey mulligan who has been wearing sort of neutrals throughout the first part of the film suddenly shows up in bright blue and its when she's going to go and try to get a job the first time. And it's so I mean, you always I always worry about taking these kinds of things too far because you feel like that, you know, the people responsible for it or going to say, yeah, you're reading way too much into this. But there are also a couple of different moments when Carey mulligan in particular. We'll suddenly be wearing a very discordant color that you've seen nowhere else in the film. There's a moment where she comes in and sort of a cowboy inspired ensemble with like. A western style. Bright purple. Oh, yep. That has nothing to do with any of these kind of muted colors that have been in the film up to that point. So if you do see it I encourage you to kind of go in looking at colors and thinking about where is this color at this time. Why is it this color? What is the kid wearing? And I think those it's a look that says please stop. It is in a way, and it's thoughtfully done light as well. I thought was really great. There are a lot of really dark shot, and you don't know why. And it's because what's about to be shown to you. In light will be stunning at one point. There's a shot where Jilin hawk goes out to smoke a cigarette. And you think oh it's dark because you get that cool. I lit a cigarette thing, but then like psych the camera pans, and it's a stunning Montana sunset the way that the human drama is sometimes in the dark with fascinating yet. This film has a protagonist that is acted upon. And that's always tricky. But the whole point of the film is that his parents are bringing him into their lives in ways that they should not. And they both do it at Bill camps house. They'll can't plays an acquaintance of the mom and both moments of just uncomfortableness of too much intimacy with their parents happens at the exact same location in very very different ways. Based on who these characters are exactly what you want out of. Yeah. And I was also interested in the fact that the first place in the film that I thought the kid is unsettled by what his mother is doing while his father is away. So when he comes into the living room of the house, and his mother is sitting there talking to this guy played by Bill camp, who you know, he knows who it is. It's a guy she knows, but she has her shoes off, and I feel like the detail that she has her shoes off is where the kid has this moment of being like something is wrong. Those little details. Give you that instant feeling of the kids awareness, and I don't know, you know, directory there are ways that you subtly draw attention to that kind of thing. So that it doesn't seem too much like, you know, there's no close up on her ankles. I don't think. I'll write while if he's going to be opening sort of gradually in more and more places. And if you don't get a chance to see it in a theater be aware of it look for it will be around. But if you get a chance to see it, I think on a big screen it's worth it and carry Mohegan, especially is going to be talked about for the next few months for reasons that will be apparent. But will I she is good in this movie? She is great in this movie. So's Jilin hall. I have to say Jake, Jillian hall makes movies sometimes where he's not afraid. Not to be the most interesting thing in the phone in a way that I really liked. That's happened with him a few times that brings us to the end of our show. You can follow Katie at love is maroon thank you so much Katy for being here. Thank you. It's always a joy. And of course, thank you for listening. We will be back here on Friday talking about this all haunting of ood. Ooh. And if you have a second, and you're so inclined, please give us her view on apple podcasts that helps more folks to find the show. We will see you. All right back here on Friday. The Franklin the Jackson Five out green Chaka Khan, those are just a few of the artists and a new collection of largely unseen photographs from the golden age of soul Rb and funk stores from the tiger. I captured all of them on the latest episode of it's been a minute from NPR.

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Maggie Gyllenhaal Knows What She Wants

"WNYC studios is supported by lift committed to addressing climate change and building a sustainable future. Since April lift has been offsetting carbon emissions to make all their rides around the globe carbon-neutral lift. It matters how you get there. Here's the thing supported by target presenting future at heart. A new podcast about change makers who are keeping the future at heart. Each episode presents a cause and explores its importance for the community and future download future at heart on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Listener supported w in y. c. studios. This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to. Here's the thing I admit I looked at Maggie Jilin halls with a -pedia page and it does get some things right. She was nominated for an Academy Award for her work in crazy heart. She did get a Golden Globe award for her performance. In the British TV show the honorable woman. Maggie Jilin hall has worked in big budget films like the dark Knight and nanny McPhee, but still finds time for off Broadway plays. She did graduate from Columbia University, and she is married to the actor Peter SARS guard, but she did not appear any production of uncle Vanya directed by Martin Scorsese. Her new movie is the kindergarten teacher, and it comes out this Friday from net flicks. I spoke with Jilin whole last Friday at the Hamptons international film festival, live at the bay street theatre in San Harper. You were born in New York and race in LA. And what was your childhood like in terms of film culture? Theater. We like a big maven and you watch everything it. Were you home watching Gilligan's island. And like the rest of us. Well, my parents were from New York. Well, my dad is from Pennsylvania. My mom's from New York from Brooklyn and they were kind of new to LA, you know, they they were filmmakers than they drove across the country with me when I was, I think ten months. Old movies, yeah. Yeah. And so they were lovers of movies. I don't know. I, I wasn't really allowed to watch like Gilligan violent, to be honest. It's kind of good range, but I was allowed to watch Sesame Street. My mom actually was one of the people who she was like a PA on Sesame Street, who's one of the people who started the electric company says, allowed to watch those and the Cosby show. That was allowed to watch and a little bit of. Little house on the prairie and after little on very came on chips. And I was like, I kinda like snuck in a little chips would. Okay. So what was it that drew you to chips? What'd you like about ship? I was really on. Can I be honest with you? That was like one of the first kind of like, whoa, what is this feeling? I'm feeling type of moment. Like ops. Motorcycle. Yeah, yeah. Just the beginning. Just the credits that was like all. Gilligan's island remote island women there, Maryanne, ginger was the first time I had some of those feelings you have? Yeah, but then my parents, it's funny they were. They loved movies and. Every weekend. We would go see a movie for a long time, and they took us to a lot of things that I would never have taken my kids to like really not appropriate through your parents are like, they don't want you to watch TV, but they don't look now, you know what I mean? They wanna go see the eclectic films, and it was really my husband who was like, oh, you haven't seen this. You haven't seen cavities. You haven't seen that even seen that and like really clued me into and also to cool seventies movies, but also like really amazing actresses. I feel like he chose well, like he showed me all the general ins movies. He was used to tell me. Embarrassing saying this because it was like a sort of, I think he was just flirting with me, but he's say, he thought I reminded him of Diane Keaton like only in my wildest dreams. I mean, she's amazing, but he showed me some of her like great movies and. I wanted to dinner with Peter wants with another girlfriend of his and he said the same thing to her, you remind me of Diane Keaton it totally works. Yep, totally work. It works like a charm again, guys out there. Keep that in your pocket. But he's a movie nut. Expansively taught me like, here's some, here's some things that they you should see. And then still we were actually joking met. Someone was telling us we had to see the Watergate documentary, and I was like, yeah, that's like a Peter date night movie. Like he, we have a moment together. He actually, oh, do you know that movie? Good, Maura. It's an amazing movie, but it is brutal and he's like, oh, we're just about to get married right near here. I heard this movie's. Great. Let's go see good more, you know or white ribbon. He took me on. Thanksgiving when you let spot straw dogs, totally you guys to go thanksgiving. So when you you grew up in LA and your parents are making films and you start acting when you're there when you're very young? I mean, not really. It's funny. I, I think it's in my Wikipedia page, like some of the other very untrue. Things we are talking. Media pages a mess. Totally into that. That that my debut was in Waterland, which was a movie that my dad made. And in fact, I saw Waterland just the other day because they did a screening of it at Columbian invited my dad. And so we went up to see it. I am in Waterland for five seconds, and my dad had been making the movie in London and they had maybe four weeks in Pittsburgh, and I was in school in LA and it was like a way I could go. See, my dad wasn't really my film debut. When you when you went to Columbia, what you go study? I studied English literature. Theater drama. I started doing plays there. I did. I did a lot I, I mean I had one teacher there who I learned a lot from this woman Joan Rosenfels, but I don't know. I guess I was Colombian. I sort of felt like I'm a Columbia, like I should study Columbia does best. Yeah, I tell people that now who are students who going to degree granting universities for drama, and I say, don't just take drama acting, take something. We are going to be a lot of books, philosophy that injury history, but you're there. What's the first production do in New York? Do you remember like my I had to Columbia did plays and you do what did I do a Columbia was the first one. Oh. I did a student production of no exit with this guy who became my boyfriend named Dante. Who was actually twenty-five and it already graduated from college in a student production. Duck. Yes, fleet he'd be in prison now. Correctly. So I did that. I also did the tempest and I played prosper. No, no. He didn't make it in that one. But yeah, that was the first one with no exit. When you do graduate with a degree in literature was was acting the goals or the what you wanted to do? Yeah, I did. I always wanted to be an actress and I feel like, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yes. In college you can read, although there's so much you're supposed to read. I feel like I never had read all of it, but I feel like I really learned to write in college and I don't know about you, but I feel like there's been so many times where I've had you know, lines I wanted change or a cut that I wanted shifted or something. I had to sort out on a set that I had to write an Email or even have a conversation where I had to organize my thoughts before I had it where I think thank God. I went to college because I was able to say what I meant to say. You know what helps if you have that background because the dude you feel that was a progression for you in the beginning you were Tim. Timid and shot less assertive, and I wanna find out. When did that begin to change? Was there a moment you sat through new said. I need to defend my position and I think I know what what's best for me. I think, you know, I don't know that it was. I think basically it was progressive, right? Like basically, you're right. I was younger and newer and it was harder for me to say what I wanted, and it's gotten easier as had more experience. But I also think that different sets give way to a different way of working. So I am jogging actress and I'm trying to get jobs and I come in for two days or one afternoon or whatever, and you're like, oh, okay. You want me to do it like that. I know I dunno in sound really, very good to me, but I'm afraid to say, let's say or maybe I do try to say, and I get shut down and I accepted and whatever. That's like, you know, it's very hard to do when you're coming in for one second. It's like going to a new school where everybody knows each other and you're there for an afternoon. But then like when I worked on secretary, which was really early on, I mean, I was twenty two. I had. A real point of view about what I wanted to say and and Steve Shane Burke who directed it was really interested in that. And I also think he knew that things were happening that I didn't have any idea were happening. Page and also my twenty two. I think I'm being very intellectual and I've come from college and I studied feminist theory and everything. You know. And I think I'm saying this and I think he was twenty years older than me that he was able to see. I know she thinks she's saying this, but this whole other thing is also happening and. And he put all that in the film. So that was a space where I felt I was totally able to, yes. And then I went to work on a movie after that, which I won't name where I was totally shut down and I was shocked by it. Which member go to a movie, and this is my opinion, but you do a film and you want to be told what to do. Basically, my whole thing is you're making the movie. What movie are you making? What how do I fit in? I do one of the first movies I did. I was lucky I did this movie working girl with Mike Nichols and nickel says, you can have sex. You can have sex with this woman and she catches you having sex. How would you have sex are being card and I go, well, I try to think about much of the most comical now thing, and he goes, he goes, it was very gracious. He's like, he's like, that's not a bad idea. That's not a bad idea. But what I think really sells it if she's just completely naked and you're completely naked and she's just sitting right on top of you writing you and me, and they actually were like, oh. We had a much more chased in kind of silly version of that and me and the girl he was like, okay, come come. Now close off what's go, but an idea of that clarity, time-saving, somebody who comes is this that you prefer that? Well, I always use my fantasy movie. I would have made with Mike Nichols as like the example of if Mike Nicholls is directing this, yes, I want to be told exactly what to do. Please. I watch his movies and I'm like. He's directing everybody. He's like pushing everybody further and deeper and funnier and wilder than they ever would go. In fact, the one time I worked with Mike Nichols was on this reading, it's not a not a movie or even a play that was ever produced. It was just a. A few day long reading of a play that Alan Alda wrote, Bob Balabagn director the reading, but Mike was sort of producing it. I guess he came up to me after a day of rehearsal, and he just said, she's Farrell. The character. And I've, I've often thought that was the best direction I've ever gotten because it doesn't say like, I don't know, directors ever come to and say like, I'm worried that we're not gonna be able to tell that you're mad because you're acting so nice, and I'm worried that it's not going to communicate or I'm afraid that you're going to far in this direction or I'm afraid that you're going to confuse people by something that you're doing. I have been told that before, but Mike Nichols is basically going like go further like in any direction you could possibly go like what he said to you, you know, go all the way she's feral that was playing Murray Curie and he's saying like, she's a wild animal. She'll wildcat because the other parts taken care of she's Murray Curie. All the French radiologists knew that back. She was wild. That Marie Curie, this is visit. I want to be told what to do. Yes, I wished for that kind of collaboration, but I don't. I don't go in expecting that. It's going to happen. I want who's a director you worked with because I think you would maybe share this what you said. We're, we're not out to. Offend anyone. But the only think of somebody who was really great, you loved working with and of the near current collaborator we're gonna get to that. But my current collaboration. I have a few that I've really loved Morton Scorsese on Bagna right that Martin Scorsese directed supposedly of Cording to Wikipedia. Me and my husband and I search. Your uncle. Let's see us tiny blackbox or New York says Martin Scorsese directed the check, go my God. This is like the seismic thing that got me. It's like it's like someone what you're going. You know, the Lindbergh baby was kidnapped right telling, no, I didn't know that. And then in this pedia entry that Alex showed me, then goes on to quote a terrible review of me in the play. Section of them eighty, I guess for Sese did not Austin Pendleton did, and he is one of the most incredible directors I've ever worked with. Austin. It's funny Austin asked me to do uncle Vanya and he when when they offered it to me, they sent me this interview with Austin, and it basically talks about this sort of incredible way that he likes to work with actors. You know where everyone's free to respond to each other. In the moment on stage, you know, all the fantasies that actors have of a way that you could actually really work together, which rarely happens. And I was like, Austin, I'd love to do this. I'd love to work this way. You know, we're all just reacting to the reality of the moment with the other person on stage and how everybody says that's what they wanna do. How are you actually going to do it? And he's like, well, you got to come and work with me to find out. And the truth is I, I don't know how he created this situation where everybody on stage had deep respect for each other. Even though. It was clear to me that there were actors who were stronger than others that there, but it made no difference. I know one way he did it. I remember the first day of over her cell. He said, however, you imagined. Sonja, whatever fantasy you have, who Sonia was going to be when you read this play? Sonia is her, is this person and all the feelings you have about this person about the way that that ricochets off what you anticipated when you read the play, that's all useful, but Sonia is her. And so we did create this little black box theatre situation where and I did it with my husband and he's a brilliant actor. So that was cool. And we got to pretend we're having an affair both checkups we did. We're playing people who are having affairs, which was really hot and great. You know. I loved working with Austin. I also loved. I love to go Blick who directed the honorable woman. Golden Globe for that. Yeah, that was the mentioned me. That was one of the longest times you were overseas in away from home. Yeah, it's funny. I really admire what you said about how for you. Your your trust is a directors to lose. I, I wish I could be like that, but I'm not. And I go in with my guard up and. Secretly. I want the deepest most intense artistic collaboration possible, but I don't. It's not easy for me and with Hugo, I think we were both like that and you know it was eight hours of television. I'd only ever done a two hour movie before I didn't know how to do that. And I'm an every minute of every scene and it superintendent of some motor to sin could have been terrible, you know. But I remember that two thirds of the way through somebody I came over to him and I just sort of said something in his ear about the scene. I think we need to shift this and actually, can we move this here and could this happen over here? Just almost shorthand at this point and he was like, yeah, absolutely. And someone sitting next to him said, do you just do whatever she says? And he said, he's English also said, I trust her completely like that. And I, I took it in. Whoa. Actually he was kidding, but I kind of think he does. And then at the very end on the very, very last day, had this voice over to record which plays at the beginning of every episode. And it's basically about trust. And it basically, I think it says something like. You have to just I mean, not in these words, but it what it meant was. You either trust nobody or you just jump off the cliff and you trust. And I was like, he'd put me in this little room to record it because we'd forgotten to record it. And I was like, Hugo. Do you mind if I say to you? And so he came in the room with me, and I basically the subtext, I guess, of what I was saying to him was I trust you. Mackey Chilin poll. She said in an interview, but she would probably be a different person by the end of her work on the honorable woman. Here's the thing is supported by target presenting future at heart. A new podcast that highlights the impact of change makers across the country as they work to help their communities move forward together towards a better future future heart takes you to Miami New York city, Washington DC, and more to hear about the causes happening in those communities and the people behind making change happen because improving tomorrow starts today, download future at heart on apple podcasts or wherever you got your podcasts. Here's the thing is supported by rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans, introducing. They're all new rate shield approval. If you're in the market to buy a home Quicken Loans will lock your rate for up to ninety days while you shop to get started, go to rocketmortgage dot com. Slash the thing rate shield approval only valid, uncertain thirty year purchase transactions. Additional conditions or exclusions may apply based on quicken moans data in comparison to public. Records equal housing lender licensed in all fifty states NMLS consumer access, dot org. Number three, zero three zero. This is Alan Baldwin and you're listening to, here's the thing, Sarah Colangelo, directed Maggie Jilin holes, new movie, the kindergarten teacher Jilin whole Toby. She heard about the project at a holiday party to people at the party said, have you heard about this script, the kindergarten teacher, it's coming to you and I don't know about you, but for me and it's great. And for me, I think it's really, really rare to read a great script and also have two people in one night out of nowhere to say like, there's this great script. It's coming to you of like, okay, okay, waiting every day after that for the script calm and it took a while and when it came, I read it and I. I had that feeling like you just I've had it like three times. You know where I was like. And also if if you have seen the movie and I won't give anything away, the ending is pretty great. And I closed the last page of the script, and I was like. I want this movie, you know? And it wasn't clear to me that it was offered to me which actually just increased my appetite for more. Of course, they say, now it always was, but I didn't know that. And one of the producers mothers was having an operation in the hospital and like nobody got back to me for a few days after I like really energetically raise my hand. It was like, yes, please. What do I gotta do? And again, just waiting made me want it more. And then then they came back and they were like, oh yes, we always meant to. Yeah, it's based on Israel movie which I haven't seen liberal. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I probably should see it now I've heard wonderful things about it, and I've heard that narrative -ly it's very similar and yet it tells an almost entirely different stories. So our movie. I think is really about. The consequences of what happens when you starve a vibrant woman's mind. Told from the point of view of a group of women filmmakers, and our conclusion is that it's fucking dire. You know, that's and I think there's really movie which has very similar narrative is is much more about masculinity in Israel and art in a country at war and very different things. Even though the story itself is very similar. So yes, I got the script and then and I signed up and then you know, it was not easy to get our money. In fact at Sundance when we first premiered, I shook the hands of fifty executive producers who had, you know all together somehow helped us cobbled together the money to make it. So we spent a while doing that. And then we made it in twenty three days in New York. Now when you work with the sound like a silly thing, but I always think about this in terms of the brevity of schedules now and the pressure to shoot efficiently now. But with children, I find very specific and in the movie in from my money, the young boy, what's his. Jimmy, Harker Parker the boy whose we had the funniest moment yesterday because I said this kid's fantastic after the movie and somebody from the festival civil, he loves boss baby. Five, he's six. We go backstage and I'm like, this is amazing to this really hypnotic creepy drama, which was great. And I'm boss baby. We have so much in common you and I. Is this different wings of the business, maybe. Parker, but we have a lot of fun with him. But when you're working with somebody like a lot of times, kids are performing and the kids that that climb the ladder a little bit. In that division, they're very, you know, they're ready to come sing tomorrow on Broadway, and he's not now he's very real yet. And was that a decision? You and she talked about. Mean I felt a couple of things very strongly. I have a child who's six and who was five when we made it just like Parker's five. So it's hard to remember what it's like to be five. I mean, how different the world is unless you're five Uvira road, I know right? Or unless you live in unless you're living with a five year old and then you're in that mind kind of. So I felt two things I, I almost didn't do the movie at one point because I thought no movie, no matter how much I love it or think it's important or whatever is worth. Disturbing child even for a few minutes. So I was like, how are we going to do this? And I also don't think five, six year olds are actors. I just don't believe that. And I don't think it's fair to ask them to be actors. So so I felt like so basically we worked in a couple of as I learned this from Amat Thompson, actually, who. I'm in love with and who who did a nanny McPhee we didn't animal feed together and we had tons of kids. And so often, especially with the very littlest one, we would just be like stand on the x. now look at that big black x. on the on the wall and turn your head when I say. So when I clap, turn your head and say a one ago. And he would clap. He turn his head, he'd say, I don't want to go, and I say, no, no, no sing it like me. I don't wanna go wanna go, no. And then he would just sort of repeat. I would be like you have to sing it, like Parker to Parker, sing it. And so then he just imitate my inflections. That was one way we worked with him so that it was just a song. It wasn't like he actually, you can't say to five year old to get in touch with away with you. But the other thing you can do with five year olds is that they will forget that the cameras on them sort of. So we ran all the kindergarten stuff as if it were kindergarten. I mean, you see them singing those songs with me or painting, or you're not going to say, okay, we're gonna pretend paint, or we're going to like pretend to write Xs on a piece of paper which is going to do it, and we choreographed the camera. I was sort of see where the camera was going almost like a documentary. And then I would just like scoot over to wherever the camera wasn't begin the scene with whoever I needed to be talking to in that scene. And then the other funny thing about kids and the like short schedule is. There were quite a few times where I did scenes with our first AD or gaffer who would read off camera for me because a little boy had to go and heavy like this is really weird, but. Like way you can trip yourself out as an actor kind of and you can be like, oh, there's helicopters going over all the time. We have to keep stopping the middle. I'm really frustrated. And then all of a sudden the frustration just goes back into the scene. So this one I was like, oh, this is like a hairy fifty year old guy with like this grubby beard. No, no. Are I? I and he's lying on the ground slating also and I'd be like, oh, but I'm okay. So I'm basically talking to this child as if he's a man. You know you figure out the way to throw back in because what else are you? Gonna do I love it? If on my next film you would come and do that x. acting with me. Would you be there for me. It'd be my mirror Rostov off the sack. Okay. And turned to me. The prison. Warm go to prison for Texas. They want to go to prison for taxi. We could do that. You'd be my acting. The. That's amazing. Ex acting. I need to work with you, man. I'm dying to get a script them. Really. Two. Now, what about Sarah? How many films that she made before she made this phone? I loved working with and it was totally different kind of experience than I had ever had before. And in some ways I like to think it's a very feminine set right? Sarah wrote and directed it finance. Here's where women are producers were women. It's all about a woman. But I'd worked with a lot of other women and had very different kinds of women. I have worked with many. I mean, even on the deuce last season, seven out of eight directors were women. You know difference there is a difference. Yeah, there is, but that's not necessarily what made. I think Michael aberration was Sarah and are set on the kindergarten teachers. So. No unusual. Yeah, feminine, but I don't even totally know what that means. Even when I watched the movie, I'm like, this is feminine. Like what is that mean? And why? And my husband after he saw it last night, he was like, I wish someone would send this to Senator flake. But I don't really know totally why right? It's not political movie, but it's it's like somehow it's really kind of straight purely feminine thing. You know, it makes me think of the piano, not this movie. I would never compare it to that, but the experience I had when I saw the piano and I was like sixteen or something, and I had never seen anything like it. I was like, what like I, I guess, I think in some ways. Girls women my age, we could so used to having to relate to a male character or even let's just say, like a sort of masculine point of view on something we're like, yeah, that's not exactly my experience, but I could twist it around and make it relatable to me. And that muscle is very exercise. I think in most women were like, I know it's not exactly my way through the world, but I just twist a little and it's cool. I get it and thank God because otherwise we'd have very little to relate to. But then like when I saw the piano like. I feel so relaxed. I don't have to twist anything and. I felt that we when I read Sarah script just like went straight in and when I saw this last night, but I love it. It's not a bad I would give it away, but the dynamic of the home is not all bad. Now there's things that maybe my mind, you know are missing you want. Yeah, gone, yeah, connections and feelings, much easier movie if her home life is like horribly, if everything's just awful instead. Scene on the phone and your husband's like he's ready to, you know. You know, do dance with you and then the phone ring. Yeah, really? Yeah, so fucked up. Yeah. Really seeds of this movie. It's incredible. It's one more thing before we take some questions. We have the mics poised for the questions we do. Okay. One last question I have for you, which is she you're doing the deuce you're on HBO. How did that happen meeting? How do they really? I mean, I'm not saying this for your benefit. You were one of the most admired movie actresses in the business. Everybody says this, everybody, you're you're, you're gorgeous and you're talented and you're all these things to go to do the TV thing. How did they hook you. Well, I just it's so funny though because like in the first three episodes, which was all I read of the deuce candy didn't really have all that much to do. No, but it's weird because I was just talking with Peter about this when we were walking on the beach here today. I was like, when I first was she turns so amazing. I love playing candy. I really do. But I just had like a feeling. I don't know. I was it was David Simon and George Pellicano. I mean, they've made some pretty damn good TV and I had done the honorable woman with Hugo who I told you. I loved so much. So wasn't my first time in TV. I wasn't like snobby about TV. I wanted it. I wanted a good job. You know that that I could count on, but also, yes and to be home. But also I was like, I don't know. I just had a good feeling. I was like, I just wanna play this woman. I wanna. I wanna try it. I wanna see, I wanna see if I can do this. It was so far outside of my experienced play a sex worker, nineteen seventy-one. I liked her just had a. I just had like this feeling about it shine for three seasons out along contra now. That's cool. And I guess I will end, you know there was this whole thing where I was like KAI. I've only read three. There's going to be twenty four. How do I know? I mean, I think you guys are all right, but. What if this becomes something I never had signed something like that before. Well, that's true. But again, like I said, I don't trust that while so I asked him if I could be a producer and and the thing is is when everyone said to me, you are never going to get that on a big HBO show. Never produced television before you didn't develop it. Good luck Maggie. But then they were like, okay, let's be partners. And I was like, oh, wow. Do we have. Do we have over here? Yes. As you prepare for your role as a teacher, did you interview teachers? Did you shadow teachers? Well, I, yeah. I felt in this movie where this woman ends up doing a lot of really problematic things. The movie only really works if you are on her side for really, really long time, you're on her side even when she's crossing lines, you would never imagine you would be on anyone side while they were crossing. And so it was important to me. That should be a great teacher like a really extrordinary teacher. So yeah, my daughter was I had one older daughter that I had a daughter who is in preschool and asked her preschool teacher, do you know like great kindergarten teacher who's not at the school? Because I didn't really wanna mix it with my kids school, and she recommended this woman on the Upper West side, and I went up there all the time sat in our classroom. I got so much from her. She had dinner with Sarah and I once and gave us some more tips, but I shadowed her. I sat there for hours. I learned a ton from her. She was great. Somebody up there in the back. We saw your film last night and your performance was stunning, and I did want to thank you for that. I'm wondering. You pick such unconventional roles, I can't help, but wonder if the role that you felt you executed the best. Was it the same role that your critics thought you executed the best from inside out? Does those two things match up for you when your critics think the same? Well, one thing I think is interesting. You say that that they're unconventional roles, but. Just when you said that word, I thought. Actually, the thing I like love about the few roles that I've done that I feel the most proud of that. I think I executed the best as you put it, I think, are actually sort of the most human people. So maybe the most conventional in terms of being like, we actually are. And I know the woman in the movie does things that many of us would never ever do. But in so many other ways, she's like, I relate to her so much, you know, she's, she's totally could be a friend of mine even the way she's fused or the fact that she's confused. I understand. I have compassion for, I don't know, in terms of, I don't know about whether I guess I would say this recently I would say since the honorable woman. I think I've had this feeling where I'm most proud of the last thing I've done. Which. I feel really grateful for I feel like, okay, I'm making the choices that are right for me right now because I'm. I feel like I keep. I don't know learning. About what I'm doing as time goes on. I'm sure I'll take DEP and take a wrong route for a while. But at the moment it's been like I feel the most proud of the of the most recent work. Actor won't say to me was very funny guy. Hold a guy when he was very, he said, remember one thing about reviews when they say you're bad, you're never as bad as they say you are. I mean, if it's not great, it never as bad. And when they say you're really good, you're great. You're always even better. Better than they never get it right. They don't know how it's so funny that like I got to like, take that little piece of that Wikipedia thing and put it up somewhere of me. The daily news, they hated my Elena. We write the survey was straightening out of your chair. The restroom is down to the right, sir. You can find masculine knows the, I can't this. I'm saying, I don't wanna be reductive about it and I can't define feminine and masculine. I'm just trying to see there's something and it doesn't. Okay. I mean, I don't wanna get like super. This is just things that are on my mind right now. Like, what does it mean to make a feminine movie? I don't know the answer to that. I just know that if you're living in a masculine world, fundamentally which I'd say it's pretty clear. We are even a misogynistic world, right? It's it doesn't just because you're a woman who directs a movie or just because you're a woman who writes a movie doesn't mean it's feminine, right? You have to twist yourself, fit yourself all your life. Like like Virginia Woolf in room of one's own. Has this whole thing about how like even even Charlotte Bronte? She said, she's not really making purely feminine work because she's like hiding her paper under her sewing or whatever. And so that's what I mean when I say I saw the piano and it had some like like a fact on me when I was sixteen there. I did this interview with Trevor Noah. You know about the deuce actually it wasn't about the kindergarten teacher, but he'd seen the preview for the kindergarten teacher and he was like, I saw the previews that is it a thriller or is it like an intimate movie about a woman's mind, or is it like a horror movie? And I, I loved that and I keep coming back to it because I think it's not any of those. It's new and I think it might be new because it's feminine. It doesn't tick. The boxes were used to, but again, I don't know. I'm little confused about this. We just time for more quick ones. The lady right there on the two more two more quick ones. Very quick question. If you weren't an actor, what would you do? What would you want to do. Man, I'm really, I'm not good at very many other things. I mean, I, I'm like an okay, cook. I have a friend who's a professor which I'd love to think like maybe I like an English teacher something, but I wouldn't be any good at it. I mean, are you good at other things. So much better than you be on. So with that bad at any of. You really remember any thoughts about maybe professional ice skating. Wow. Yes. Okay. Said about Leonard cherry being in English major, and you're probably great reader if you option to book and do your movie, but not being it, what would you do? Well, I did actually just option a book and I'm not going to be in it. I'm a dappling it and I'm going to direct it and it's called the loss daughter by Elena for Ontario. It's my last question is a two parter because we're going to be out of time that's gone quick two part. I had a very fleeting role in looming tower with your husband got with your husband for the first time Peter stars guard. And my first question, which is silly questions is your husband Billy sweet as he seems. Bet my life that damn good husband. Him. What's that like for you being to people who are working all the time, very successful movie actors. That's wonderful to be with somebody who understands what you're going through. I'm married. Sometimes I'll be like, when are you coming home? I don't understand what are you coming home? Like we plan such and such and he's like Maggie. No, I don't know the answer. I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. My wife and I like, why are you so dramatic? Anyway. Update after a newspaper story here about this conversation Jilin halls, Wikipedia page has been revised. Maggie Chilin halls, new movie that kindergarten teacher comes out on Netflix, October, twelve. Here's the thing comes from WNYC studios. Go fan too. 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"Joe Biden sends condolences to trump after brother's death. Quote I know the tremendous pain of losing a loved one by Tara Law. Joe Biden sent President Donald. Trump has sympathy after the death of Robert. Trump. The president's younger brother Biden, the former vice president and trump's rival in the twenty twenty presidential election expressed sadness for trump's in a tweet on Sunday morning Robert Trump seventy one died on Saturday night after being hospitalized in New York City according to the Associated Press. Mr President Jilin I are sad to learn of your younger brother Robert's passing. I know the tremendous pain of losing a loved one and I know how important family is in moments like these I. Hope you know that our prayers are with you. All Biden said. The former vice president has experienced several significant personal tragedies over his lifetime, his first wife Nelia and their thirteen month old daughter Naomi were killed in a car crash in nineteen seventy two. And Twenty fifteen, his son Beau died of brain cancer at the age of forty six.

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"Dante lost life apart pets four in about real people. Join us as we share personal real and untouched stories to help you navigate through life. Grab your favorite top till in enjoy the right with your host in Quincy. Dolphins. What's up everyone? At welcome to another episode of lost. Life is tie and today, Quincy night will be discussing the topic that's very near. And dear to both of our hearts, we have the pleasure honor welcoming, our very first guest Jill in Phil Henderson to the show. Jill in feel are the parents of car Henderson, who's life was ended abruptly into lie of two thousand seventeen when he was murdered increase, but car was a brilliant, young man with a bright future ahead of him a recent graduate of university of Arizona, where he graduated from the elder college management with the bachelor degree in business finance entrepreneurship, he was Zakinthos crates with three friends celebrating their recent college. Graduation, while also conducting a photo shoot for his upcoming launch of his clothing line card luxury sportswear when he met his untimely death. We meet with cars parents to discuss what they are doing to honor a carry out Bacar is legacy while still going through the digital process to get Justice for his murder. They will discuss how they are providing hope to other families in mourning through their personal tragedy. Please join us as we give a warm, welcome to jail in Phil Henderson. Thanks for having us. We're excited to participate. Thank heavens. Yes. Thanks guys for joining us. And for listeners who don't know Jill, feel aren't only guest today. They're also our brothers and sisters. So this is a very special and personal moment for us as well. Are you joined us? We gave our audience break background into Kharian, what transpire July two thousand seventeen being in the travel industry, in part of many networks, we've seen in hurt the discussions around the incident. Specifically within our black travel networks. I think we've both intentionally chosen not to engage publicly in the discussion, just basically because it's just too close to home. But as you know, I've read all the articles in post as it relates to Cari. I think the store that many are not telling or get to tell is who Akari was as an individual in the great things that he was doing had planned to do. And that's what we want people to hear in remember so without further delay. Jilin feel can you first introduce yourselves and tell us a little bit more about your family? I'm Jill Henderson Kari's mother, also the mother of PJ Henderson enjoy Henderson, and feel is my spouse of thirty one years. So we. I guess, our family is, as you all know, not just our media family, but we have a very large extended family, including grandparents aunts, uncles siblings cousins, so on both sides were very close. Knit and just grateful to have such a loving family. UCD. We are tight knit family for sure. But more about Macari and the individual he was as far as like from time he was younger, you know, growing up, tell us little bit more about that. Well, what may occur special in my eyes is that he was. Headstrong but decisive and just throughout growing up. He was always middle child that just tested things to the just to make sure we were on our toes. So, of course, he challenged us, the challenge just in a good way because not only helped him achier but it helped us. Learn how to help him turn into the young man that he was as well as it was the tools to negotiate with the other two children as well. So he definitely kept us on our toes, and he was despairing outgoing. Loved people loved learning about different things. Absolutely loved sports and being an entrepreneur. So we were just real excited about what life had to offer him. It sounds like car was very in tune to things pretty early on. Do you remember when you realize that he wasn't your typical kid in terms of how his mind worked in the way he process information? Ably. From the from the time he was a toddler when we went to the doctor's office of grout. Why it was that he wasn't talking. And he was almost two and PJ. Our oldest had been very verbal. So we were wondering what was going on with him? And then the doctor kindly told us that every child is different. And perhaps we were talking too much for him. So had talk because basically he was communicating and we were filling in all the pieces for him, so we learned at an early age, that he knew exactly what he was doing knew how to get around the system. Just say, although I don't recall that part of the story that you have to go to the doctor because he didn't talk, but I do remember talking and being, you know, very silent in, but you could see his his mind was very intent even at a young age. You can see in his facial expression he gonna be intense about, you know what it was. He was thinking, let us his very young. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And then I guess another story is when he was in elementary. We got a call that he had to sit out during recess because he was selling what he called. What did he call him feel they weren't? They were rocks. But he called him something else, jewels or something like that, don't and selling them to his classmates, and they were buying him. But the teacher reminded him that it really wasn't for him to sell rocks to the other students. And then we realized okay, we really got to try to stay a step ahead of him because he's always thinking always doing things that are non traditional. But you you know what about his trout? Tell us about more of his travels in, how do you. How did you feel as a parent when he first started traveling internationally traveling abroad, exploring the world? So we were well, I guess we realized going through some of the pictures videos that we probably planted, the just from always taking the kids with us to different places like Mexico, Jamaica, the Bahamas and things of that nature. But once he started doing it on his own his first trip, you know, we weren't too anxious about because it was with a group of other people. And so we thought, oh, we'll that'll be nice exposure to China. You know, it'll be structured so we weren't too anxious about that then when he turned around the next summer and wanted to do something kind of on his own. We were a little nervous because we just thought. Oh, no. What would have we started? So, so we were glad that he was not fearful. But also, we knew that. Knowing how Cari was, it was just going to probably be a, a reoccurring thing for him. And he immediately told us that his plan was to live in Switzerland or somewhere international. In some Acari definitely had a appetite for travel in as parents, you head developed a comfort level with his travel. So if you can, if you can tell us a little bit about when you receive that devastating news, what was your initial reaction. Well, when we received that phone call it was very earliest about three thirty in the morning and. Of course, we were not expecting that news at all we just thought you know, maybe he had misplaced his passport they needed to figure out where he was saying something of that nature, since it was the embassy calling. So only got that news, we were devastated. Our first thoughts were where were his friends, what happened who could do something like this and just wanting to have as much information as we can get, which, of course, didn't happen for awhile because they were still trying to piece everything together as well. But yeah, I initial thought was. You know that something. Insignificant had happened and we just have to fill in the pieces to help them figure out where car it was, but. Very devastated. When we got the news. How difficult was it for you by being so far with in another country? And, you know, having to look at things doing the foreign governments. And did you does your mind fill that we blaming the people of Greece initially? Or did you kind of feel like since that if he was the home or since he was abroad somewhere else? Did it hurt more did it make you feel the same way towards the country initially? Yeah. Initially, I don't think we focused too much on the country, our biggest thought, was, how are we going to get him home? And what details does that entail which was overwhelming to say the least, because I mean edgy? No, the embassy just basically emails, you a packet of information. Here's the mortuaries that you can contact. Here's attorneys. You can contact but then they had a specific timeframe because if you don't. Get the body back in a certain timeframe, they have the right to kind of determine what they're going to do from there. So in it was a Friday. So we had to move very swiftly. So I think we were so consumed with that. And then once we kind of work that part out, we were, you know, more geared toward okay? What type of spell abrasion of life? Do we need to have that? So I don't think it really hit us about Greece until much later, but we didn't want people to focus on the negative on the anger. We wanted to really just shows what a great person. But Cari was so we wanted to focus as much as we could on the positive. So for those who don't know there was a little bit of time between after Macari was brought home in when the trial started in two thousand eighteen so Jill. Or phil. If you can tell us a little bit about what your feelings were going into the trial, as you traveled over to Greece for the initial time, I think, for me. My feelings were a big mix. I was probably angry if I'm being honest in really prepared not to like Greece as I was on that plane headed over. So I'm just kinda looking to understand what your initial feelings were as you embarked on this next phase of the journey. Yeah. I was I was nervous. I was anxious. It was really are I long international trip. So just not knowing what to expect not knowing you know how do on the flight. And of course, not knowing how we would be received by the Greek people, I don't know that I was angry so much as a wanted to get closure. I was just like okay good. We're finally on our way. Let's just get here. Did this over with so we can get back home thinking that, you know, we would be there few days. The trial would end in they would be tried and convicted, and we'd be back home. So. I was pleasantly surprised when we got there, and it wasn't nearly as bad as what we ought, of course, we have the security there with us. But. To know that we really didn't feel threatened was a very positive thing for me. And to see that so many of the people did acknowledge our pain and felt, you know, sorry for us in the sense that they couldn't imagine what we were going through even though there was a language barrier with some of the people I just think that, that was very positive in so. Initially, I can't say I was angry. I was just, you know, hurt, of course, owed still dealing with the pain, trying to find a way to get past that pain is what I think I was looking for. I know from for me, personally, I was extremely angry as will. And when I went over there, I was every big kinda like tie. You know, for the second time around, and, but when I was surprised was how warm, the people were to you all in particular, and how they felt bad, you know as a result, and didn't want that to be reflective of who they were so data's of personal touch to gratitude for the degree people. And then realizes, you know, student that it wasn't really their fault. You know, these things have been unfortunately, no matter where you can be can be it can happen. This has occurred has your perspective on traveling internationally changed anyway. As a result. I think it actually has just given us more of a sense of awareness to come to know where you're going research that areas that you're planning to visit just what the culture is in how they feel about Americans and how they go about African Americans because, you know, even though we're American we the first thing, people see is that we're black. So they don't really know what you are until you talk. So I would say that that has. Just kind of always stuck out now in my mind. Whereas when Akari jury traveled overseas, a we just really were not informed about. How people could judge them based on their color. We looked at that as more of an American thing due to, you know, slavery and things of that nature. So it was a shock to see that something like that could happen overseas. And so it just tightened our awareness, I think, but we I mean, a horse now we have decided that we want to travel just to honor his legacy to continue what he started in what he lives. So it just gives us it gives us joy. But it also at times makes a bad when we're, you know, first embarking on new things because we think, oh, this is something that he would have loved him. He's not experiencing. So it's kind of a love hate tag vein. Just close the loop on the trial itself, for those who don't know the retrial will becoming up Hari. So do you feel that you'll get closure this time around in if? So what does closure look like for you? Definitely hope we do. I'm trying to have low expectations because I think our expectations, which I didn't think were high, when we went because I mean, as you both know their judicial system is not nearly as strict as ours is, so the maximum bit could have gotten was like twenty years anyway. But they wouldn't have served that amount of time. So we already had our mindset that. Okay. Well, it's not going to look like it looks America. So to have it reduced that significantly to like by years when we were, there was like a slap in the face. So I do hope that they will give them the maximum just because. I believe that they deliberately thought the heard him though, and to kill them. So, you know that is that's definitely my help. We'll see what happens but I'm trying to keep my expectations. Low. I can relate one hundred percent. I was had high expectations myself. But now I'm trying to really manage them. So I don't get to motion one way or the other. But back to car. Tell us more about his entrepreneur ways, and his work ethic, and his vision that he was trying to achieve. I really thought it was pretty amazing all the things that he had mapped out at such a young age and finding motivating. Can we talk a little bit more about that? Though he just was so actively engaged and typing notes in his phone journaling in different notebooks, drawing designs just doing all kinds of things. And he liked to read different books, which was surprising to, because he was a dyslexic, run-up. So we always would tell them readers leaders. And so he kinda embarked on different quotes, that he liked and started jotting down different quotes. So we were pleasantly surprised when he started saying, oh, you know, check out this book, mom, dad, you gotta rebuild, and so then we started trying to keep up with him because his goal was to read a book a week, and I'm like, well kinda mar when you're forty hours a day week, but anyway, he was just very methodical in his approach. He always looked at learning from other people as well. So he would reach out to different people that were older that had accomplish things that he felt would help him reach his goals. And so he always liked like chess. And so one of his name was to not play checkers the play chess was his. Way of staying a step ahead according to him and his dad that was their little thing that they would always say is, you know, throughout life. You don't wanna play checkers, you need to play chess, so the in strategize your move, so. So we know that but car was over in Greece doing a photo shoot for his clothing line Bacar a luxury sportswear. How much were you involved part to car going to Greece in what actions? Are you taking now to ensure this dream of his comes to light? So we were he was over there to. Twofold, he had a couple of friends that went over with another friend whose family is from Greece. And they basically were going over for. More of a celebration say it all just recently, graduated, and so they invited the car to come. And so he decided to go, but more in order to get pictures videos for his clothing line. So he had some of his samples made up an actually took those over there with him and found different people to take pictures with his clothing on so the start his website in order to launch his business. So he was over there really mostly for business. But decided since they were there you know, he would hang out in the evenings with them as well. So it was the two ultra per him one to celebrate his graduation. But mostly to capture images in videos for his clothing line. So you mentioned that he was over there mostly to launch his clothing line. So is that something that both U N Phil are going to continue to pursue? Yes. And so what we have learned from what he started is that he was absolutely correct. It is very difficult to work a full time job and to be a clothing, manufacturing entrepreneur, because it is so many different pieces involves so we struggled quite a bit trying to get up to speed based on notes that he had. And from talking different people. We've had trial and error. And so we're hopeful that the next couple of manufacturers that we test out that were able to at least find one that can help us move this, this clothing line Ford's so that we can at least fulfill his legacy living out history to start this clothing line and all the other different businesses that he had written down in his journal. That's really amazing that you guys are continued at on. I mean, I know it's gotta be difficult trying to juggle your personalise as well as Beal ISS and now on top of that. I wonder staying also have non profit organization, the Cari foundation, so give us some insight into that. And what's going on there? Let different models with clotheslines that we thought would honor. Bakari and so that's kind of weird. This came from is, and then one of his friends also helped us kind of conceptualize it as well. But we thought you know his love for travel would be a great thing to kinda part with his clothing line. So what we decided to do is launch a clothing line. I mean launched the foundation, which would afford grieving families that experienced the traumatic loss, like we did they. Opportunity to travel and start their healing process or continue with it, and then a percentage of the clothing line will go toward every sale, a percentage of every sale, mclovin, line will go toward the foundation to kinda help it so be self sustaining it at some point, we hope, but yeah, we just thought it would be a great partnership to continue his legacy because he was passionate about travel Cashman about people. And of course that gives us away to kinda fine purpose in our pain as well. Think it's amazing that you have found Dacian that's helping other hill when you're still trying to heal yourselves. A noble car is birthday is approaching in, we have the second annual car legacy event, taking place ns birthday. Why did you decide to host this on what must be a very difficult day for your family in tell us a little bit about this year's event in what makes it so special? Yes. Oh, bad panic started, while I'll say kind of by accident. But I guess nothing is an accident. So one of his good friends was coming into town last year on his birthday to celebrate his life with several other friends that live in the area. And as a result of that we decided, well, you know, what will you guys? You know, have you over to the house that in the numbers kept changing, and we couldn't determine how many people was going to be so decided? Well, let's find a venue and just do a soft launch of the foundation. Given update on the clothing line given up date on the trial that way, we'd have everybody in one space and we, you know, all celebrate together. So that was an amazing event in, you know, a couple hundred people showed up, which was very surprising to us. So from there we decided, well, you know what we need to do this on an annual basis. And we were thinking. Doing annual event anyway. Just didn't really decided on what date. So we thought, well, you know what we might as well. Just keep it as close to his birthday as we can so that it turns into a celebration, but also an opportunity for people to come together and just kinda, you know, stay involved in engaged one another with the clothing line, his legacy foundation all at once. Part of the mission of the car foundation is to award, a family who is in mourning with transformative travel experience. So are you in a position this year to be able to award? A family at the event. We are an I'm sorry. I should explain it. We are going to have a international food and wine experience, which will be just the tasting of different things from three countries that Bacar trampled to. So he traveled to about fourteen countries in. So we just picked three different countries to highlight in. So the family has been selected they accepted the award in, they'll be here on the thirteenth in order to celebrate with us, and also to receive their ward officially, so we're looking forward to that in our very pleased that we're able to afford this first family with that opportunity. You'd be amazed at Kharian what he was able to accomplish his life in such a short time on, you know, here with. And you know, it actually motivates me to be better at everything I do everyday pushes mediate. We better on this recall in all the great things that he did in how touch so many people, what words, courage -ment, which gives others who experience death of love one at someone else's Hanes. Aleksei to really focus on as many positive attributes. That she can in order to get past that negative part of it in hurt in anger that you feel because that can truly consume you. So I think that's kind of what the clothing line in the foundation do for us. It gives us an opportunity because we think about all the time, anyway. So we're doing something productive and positive to focus that energy instead of laying in the bed thinking, you know, whoa, is me. So we try as much as we can to keep moving forward, the things that would make him happy and things that, you know show what he was all about, and what his life was about so that we can just increase. People's awareness of who he was, and what his goals were. So I would say to people to find something to do that. That person really enjoyed in that person love because it will, then eventually give you some joy and some just hope and increase your outlook on life. So whatever that thing is all our big just take it and do it, even if it's something you wouldn't typically do, for instance international travel was not something that. Was really on my bucket list. I mean I had a couple of places I wanted to go to, but really it wasn't a major thing, but now because of his love. Or we've Lech onto it in decided, you know what there's so many places go. Now, we can't even figure out when we wanna stop going. So it's just, you know, finding that positive thing that will put that spark back into your life. Yeah. This is like curry was definitely amazing person in knowing him, personally. But just seeing out core a love that was received from the munity and family and friends than the love that continues to flow in almost two years later in people traveling around the world. I think many others have been inspired by Kharian. We see the hashtag travel Macari in the bracelets, and the pictures on Instagram Facebook in all corners of the world. So I hope that, you know, you find some joy in that definitely brings a smile to my face. When I look up on Facebook in see someone else who I don't even know jumping out of airplane skydiving as be like Cari on their arm. I mean. This is something, you know that not all people, you know, we'll have. So I, I guess that was the kind of thing that I took away. I never really thought about the legacy that I wanted to leave. And you know, to seek out for a people in emotion for car make a little bit more about that in making sure that my walk here on earth Hannah leaves the impact that may not even match his but, you know, just, you know this is a motivation, right there. So we appreciate you both for joining us in. We can't wait to see you next week to celebrate in on the life of Kharian, you know, see everyone again at the event this year. I'm sure it's gonna be a huge out turn like it was before. So thank you again. Thank you. The thinking of an we look forward to seeing Londoners drawn to. All right. Bye-bye. To learn more about the foundation how you get involved go to WWW that the par- foundation dot org. See famine lifted as team to seek Justice join us again, next week Thursday, and thanks again for riding with us. He loved in life. Thanks again for writing. Get lost life. 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A Heavy GravityEpisode #104

Tales from A Butterfly

27:48 min | 1 year ago

A Heavy GravityEpisode #104

"Hey guys. Welcome to tales from a butterfly podcast. I'm your host to reassure endo. Sometimes Caterpillar sometimes butterfly but always driving to make it through. Life's many metamorphosis with my faith intact with this podcast. I hope to encourage anyone that is going through life situations. No matter what they are they have left. You feeling like you will ever be a Caterpillar. Cocoon stage having to continually shed your skin while fighting to get free from any chains that are holding you back from your transformation. I WanNa tell you keep your faith in the transformer believing that just like the butterfly. When you come out you will be a thing of beauty who is not afraid to fly so come on butterflies less covert nineteen better known as corona virus has spread throughout the world symptoms of this respiratory may include fever cough and shortness of breath. These symptoms may show up to to fourteen days after exposure. If you are experiencing these symptoms and have come into contact for in an area with an ongoing outbreak. Please call a hotline and or consult with a physician. Clean and disinfect high touch surfaces for more information please visit CDC DOT GOV forward Slash Cova. Nineteen thank you. You're listening to episode one of four of the task from butterfly. Podcast titled a heavy gravity. And I'm your host to reach under so let's get into it guys so I am feeling heaviness. Have you guys been feeling that way? Lately in the middle of this pandemic something like a plague called the corona virus slash cove in nineteen a little bit of heaviness. You know it's this. Virus is forced a lot of businesses to close and to send employees home. You know they can't stay there. The businesses closed so employees are home. Some you know. It's forced highschools in college campuses to shutdown and she send students home and now. I'm home and Sunday's not every day but some days you feel heavy feeling like the world economy is falling all around you. At least that's what I'm hearing. How people are feeling. Also I'm feeling that way on Sunday overall pretty good. Then I'll talk to some people and it just seems like such a heaviness. It's what I'm hearing all around me. What I'm seeing on the news. It's been reported that the others are feeling heavy. Even on facebook people are just feeling distraught is heavy and I'm hearing murmurs around me. That people are tired of being home. When you're just over it and I'm tired of it could be going back to work or I can be doing X. Y. Z. Just overran I can see whether coming from one fx. But I also noticed that if I allow myself to think that way then the heaviness that I feel seems to get even heavier in a heaviness that makes me feel like. I'm grounded right where I am and then I won't be able to move forward because again. The world is falling self. The world is falling around. The world is shutdown. How am I going to be able to move forward that kind of heaviness you know a heaviness that seems to push out the ideas in my mind that I had flowing through my mind when I was driving out driving for Lifting Uber? The ideas man. I'm telling Ya baby in the car with all those hours sometimes even try to run from the idea is because I'm like would feel overwhelmed with ideas not not feeling like I'd able to accomplish them. You know so I am all these ideas that were just flowing foreign flowing to my head. That would while I was driving turned me into questioning how I can do things better for my life so I'd be driving like man. How can we do this better from this better for my life my stands about to go to college at can be marketing better? In reaching out to jobs that would eventually become careers. And what I'm doing now I can be doing more putting out more content content pumping like a machine that can be doing more. And I'm have all these ideas of how to do it and the content that I could put out the podcast in the videos ideas just flowing and I'm driving saying that but I don't have enough time saying to myself. I be making leaps and bounds in my business like in life in General Housing Order. Business in order out there just going for only. I had more time. I could do so much more but I have these other responsibilities so I'm going to drive an even coy would say we don't have to drive as much in my mind. That my or he would say I didn't have to drive it all and my mind if I can go out. There makes a money. Why would I not while? They're not do everything I could to be helped me to him. Even if he doesn't need the help he's got it. I'm on his own but I feel like I don't WanNa put unnecessary or undue stress on him. You know. I've always liked be independent now. Not Independent as independent. I don't need a man. No I don't mean that kind of independent but independent like I want to go out and buy my husband give. That came from money. I earned now for money. He gave me and then I go on buying a gift that you get what I'm saying and that's not always a bad thing. It's not a bad thing at all. You know if you're staying home and Hubby's handling everything in you know because I'm sure if if you're staying home and the hub that work at or even if it's vice versa. The one stay at home was probably managing everything. So you're managing everything knowing that she can go out and buy the other spouse X Y and Z. So there's nothing wrong with that but I'm saying how just always liked having money that I'm me off of my skill or it is and I was doing so even though Corbin said he could stay home would be like I'm GonNa go out there drive and then again on how all these ideas flown to my mind and what I could be doing better in my life and in business like if only I had time if only I was home at all these grand ideas and I'll be driving in feeling a little heavy feeling like I didn't have any force to just push me when I was getting stagnant like when when I would miss one two three four five six seven eight nine episodes back to back no force that was by you got to move. You got to keep going you know. Handling the business of growing. My business is all on the person trying to grow the business. So that remind case. It's me I'm trying to grow this podcast videos. Cha I'm trying to grow myself and media and its own you. You have to be accountable to you. And I'm used to being accountable to other people. I can function highly those levels accountable but when it comes to myself it almost seems like oh. I can just let myself down today. 'cause I'll piggyback on tomorrow I don't know of any of you guys ever felt that way and so that's how I was feeling that was driving. You know I only have me told myself accountable. And to push myself to the limit I have to motivate me and motivation can only be the start but discipline is what's going to get me through. So motivation is great. I only have media motivate me great to read. Come on you can do it. That could be thinking all these things that are being disciplined enough to see it through and seemed like you know things are just falling down with this. Corona virus seemed game airlines in the world. Everything seems to be falling down all around That provoked me to ask questions like why. Why is this happening? Oh what's what's behind the curtain. All this is falling. So what's going on over here or just questioning different things and just not accepting things for what they are. People are saying economies fallen so me no. I'm not accepting never. What can we do over here? Why the failing and what can I do on My Enemies? Sure that my household is good just refusing to just watch things just fall you know and while others around and and maybe some of you guys are experiencing that to your mindset is different. I actually spoke to someone yesterday. Who represents clients and she was saying one of her clients actually. Doing her business is doing well with this. That's going on. And so she's flourishing. She asking questions. Where do I fit what what needs can meet in this market while other things are falling? What needs could I mean his market? She's not just watching things fall all around here you now. She's not just witnessing the fall but never questioning it. She's not content to sit in heaven and stay while the world seems to be. And that's how I feel like I'm feeling happy but I'm just not content to sit here. There's gotta be something else and again. I don't know if any of you guys listening feeling like that. Like there's gotta be something else you know you feel like I'm feeling heavy Ano- questioning but if I keep looking around me I'll start believing that I'll never meet my mark on the world that I feel like God created me to do. I'll never fully operate how he created me to operate. You know. I feel like I won't leave the imprint. Or make the impact on the world that I believe he would have me to make them watching everything fall around me still questioning but still just watching to feel like. I can't move forward feeling stuck again. You know if any of you guys listing feeling that way in in it sounds almost crazy because it's like. I'm watching everything fall around me but yet there's something inside of me saying this is not the end all be all we can come back stronger or every breaking it down to speaking of. Yourself. I'm feeling I can come back stronger. Ending a better position you know but still watching everything fall and in the back of mom wondering will I be better for this will be in the same position as when we went into this when we get out now so I started thinking that and then I started just playing around on the Internet doing some things in I wanna tell you guys about a man that I just randomly came across a man that lived many many many many moves before us that do believe that everybody that no-one listening lived the same era as this man. If you are want to meet you shake your hands a picture posted on the ground all of that so I want. If you're feeling those that copy of feelings that I'm feeling I want to remind some of you and introduce some of you to a man that really made me banking made it clear of how can get through this pandemic feeling heavy and still moving forward. This man's name Isaac. Isaac Newton obtained his bachelor's degree from Trinity College Cambridge in Sixteen Sixty five and was going to was going to continue pursuing his education but due to the outbreak of the bubonic plague pandemic precautions. Were taken the university was temporarily closed so as it. Newton had to return home like all the other students and other other people that worked at the college yet to return home because the college shutdown because they were in the middle of a play Pierre Damning and it's actually been said that his time working at the college with mediocre was undistinguished. There was nothing to write home about when he was working at the college but his time working from home in the middle of the plague due to the shutdown where he's most productive years it is written that Newton himself said that during the course of this university shutdown he was at home and a friend had come over which were then now. They didn't have like you know. Mandatory can't go out. Maybe the French neck over that anyway. They were in the middle of this shutdown because the plague and his friend had come over and they went out and had lunch in the garden and they were walking around and they had apple trees in the garden and apple fell from the tree. Apple fell nothing out of the ordinary but Newton verbally wondered Aka Question Blah. Why apple fell away. Why do apples always fall straight to the ground rather than sideways or upwards? He also verbally wondered Aka a thin out loud if the same force at work on the apple was also at work on the Moon. And if so why did the apple fall to the Earth? But not the so. He's in the garden with his friends having lunch. Just Jilin Talk and talk about whatever at Akaphol something that he would normally in the past but he stops in all these thoughts come to mind something falls around him and his friend the debt like Yep it fell but all of these questions started going through his mind and he started wondering allows apples fall that way why he was questioned. And I'm a part of one's did that. Get on the friends narrow with the friend like Oh illegals again. Sometimes I know I feel like that about me. Sometimes I feel like my brain. Congo's hyper speed in his always question. Things always trying to China gain understanding for me. I always want to understand something like side when I used to work at this company. I worked in one department but I've went around myself and asked when I first started working there every department. What they did and I took notes because I wanted to know how this business ran from the top to the bio and then I could fit my piece in and where I fit in if I was talking to the customer in prevent them from having to go to another department. That could maybe do one little thing handle it in my department. That's what I did so I always wanted to know how things ran so I could put them together in my mind. That's how my mind works at. It doesn't take things by peace and leave it like that. It has to take things by put together an oboe. I got it so I kind of wonder if that's how his mind was like. Wow that apple fell. What made it fall? Oh wait a minute. Why isn't the Moon Fallen allies? This fallen I can get his questioning but I wonder if his friend was like here. We go again just like sometimes. I wonder if my friends got level. Sometimes feel like here. She goes again. But that's just how my brain see things now so again. The apple fell and he's questioning out loud. Why the apples falling sway following-up downside as Blah Blah so at a time? When he's home you could be with his friends you know because he is shut down because of this play that time. That apple falling inspired him to eventually develop his law of universal gravity so him seeing that fall allowing himself to question and not just shutting it down because I want to meet my friend or they may think I'm crazy. He allowed himself explore question. When realistically think about with this corona going on say you're out with the people in your house because he knew social distancing say you're out of the people in your house in your walking in your neighborhood and you see something fall and the person you're with his way. Why did that fall? I mean why did it fall on the left side of the street and not the right like what's going on you made in your mind be thinking? Come on at for a what we're supposed to be spending time together wiring worried about what's falling around us and so you may just in your mind say okay. Let me just go on. But Isaac Mr Newton allowed himself to explore something as simple as why apple fell away did and out of that he developed his law of Universal gravitation so the word gravity or gravitation comes from the Latin word gravitas which translates into heaviness or wait so Isaac Newton was dealing in heaviness working in heaviness surrounded by having his his work is research with heaviness during the bubonic plague that lead to deaths of twenty percent of London's population and in the process of working with this heaviness in the process of death all around him in the process of having to get up every day and work through heaviness he would alter the course of science and to this day is considered one of the most influential individuals in the advancement of human knowledge one of the most influential individuals in the advancement of human knowledge now during this time of him working in this heaviness with gravity Newton's eventually concluded that in fact the apple and the mood were influenced by the same force. He named that force gravitation gravity and would go on to develop three laws of motion. I just wanted to talk about the first law. The first law if a body is at rest it remains at rest or if it's in motion it moves with uniform velocity meaning that an object moves at a constant speed without changing direction or in other words it moves in a straight line until it is acted on by a net force. Now a net force means that the forces acting on the object are not balanced so in other words the first law states to things a stationary object will only move. If there's an unbalanced force acting on it for example a table resting on the ground will not move unless pushed although gravity is acting on the table pulling it down. There's a reaction force from the ground. Which is pushing it back. The forces acting on the table or balanced the object. A moving object will only change speed or direction. If there's an unbalanced force acting on it for example a ball rolling along a flat surface will slow down and eventually come to a hall but this is because of friction which is a force that slows the ball down a ball rolling down slope if also affected by friction but the force of gravity that causes it to move stronger in a place. Without the forces the friction air resistance and gravity like in our space. A moving object would keep on moving straight line if there were no force to slow it down or change its direction. Newton wasn't in the garden again by himself. I'M GONNA go back to that. He developed all this all started by him being in the garden which coincidentally I think they know to other people that started something in a garden. But that's a whole nother lesson anyway. Newton wasn't in this garden by himself. At least according to his account of this story because there are so many different accounts some accounts say apple film hit him on the head but what we do know it was an apple that inspired him into the into the three laws of gravity so according to him in one account that I read 'cause I read multiple. It's friend was with him in this garden so his friends saw the apple two and probably the people that took care of the garden. That made sure it was beautiful and fluffy and picked up the apples that fellow when no one was in the garden and they had to come tend to it. They also apple falls too. I'm pretty sure but the apple falling is not the remarkable part of Newton Story. Again apples fall. That's what they did. It's an apple tree so him singing apple. That's not the remarkable part of the story. What's remarkable his questioning again. Like I said earlier of the process of the apple falling and then him daring to explore what was already in existence. Gravity see he created the laws of gravity but he didn't create gravity. He didn't discover gravity but he studied gravity and help the world understand something that no one before him had done and again it put him in position to impact the world. So you may be home feeling like some days some days more than others may be home feeling like you're dealing with the heaviness that having this all around you that heaviness just surrounding that you just can't seem to shake heaviness like when it was working with grabby remember gravity literally means heavy or wait. He was working in heaviness out of him working in having the heaviness he changed science. So maybe your home again feeling like you're dealing with the heaviness day you just can't seem shake feeling like life around. You seems to be falling. You're watching things fall and that you're stuck going in the same direction for the rest of your life feeling like you will never get where you're destined to go because everyone around you seem stuck to their seeing the same things that you see fall and they're not questioning their looking at number saying the economy's falling. They're not questioning so they've abandoned their dreams. They've abandoned pursuit of where they want to go because things around them are falling in there in heaviness to. So you're looking around and you're starting to feel stuck. Even your mind is telling you something different. You're starting to feel the heaviness coming on you. I want you to remember that. And no no in your knowing whatever that means you now. I know in my knowing. I want you to know that the one who created you. Who Knew you before you were formed in your mother's room womb. He is your uniform. Velocity and your net form velocity all in one so he knows when to push you even when you have another force that cement seeming like. It's coming down having heavy on you and not allowing you to move forward. He is that that can push you. He is your uniform velocity. That will push you to go to your next level. And when you need to stop Rene to stop and just sit for a minute. He's also your net form. That'll stop us. Then you can say before he moves you forward again so remember that there's no heaviness that God can't get around because he created it all. He created gravity so the one who created gravity cares for you. So there's nothing that you can't do so you can allow your mind to think on good thing even in this time you don't you subject your mind you know under Christ were to have the minds of Christ. Our minds are supposed to be daily so when we wake up in a heaviness and our mind start going in the dark place. We've gotta be able to shift it back because the one who created all this the one who put all this in in existence. It's world gravity. He cares about what we care about and he created us for a purpose again. He knew us before we were formed in our mother's womb. So I want you to remember that. There's no force greater than God. He created the forest. He is the force. There's no force that's greater than God you were created on purpose for God's purpose and even in the middle of your heaviness will still continue to move you forward waffle filling his promise. Thank you so much for hanging out with me and listening to tell my butterfly episode one floor a heavy gravity though to either blueberry B. L. U. R. Stitcher Google play music spotify radio DOT com popping or any other. Podcast can be found and type in about a fly and subscribe to the bucket and please rate the podcast. By clicking on the fifth star it takes less than two minutes and right underneath there you can press and leave a comment. The more ratings I get the more visible the podcast which in turn will bring in sponsors and advertisers. And please show podcast on your social media. I know I asked without a podcast but apparently I gotTa so if you can share on your different social media platforms and the more shares the better and speaking of Social Media. You can follow me on twitter at s phase on Instagram T. S. PHASE. Not facebook ad sales from butterfly in butterflies when you feel like grabbing is trying to keep you down and and working against you remember are they have forty one verse ten and Ivy so do not fear for I am with do not be dismayed for I am your God and I will strengthen and help you I will uphold you fly on butterfly. I love you guys and thanks for listening.

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021219 Part 1

Ace and TJ

51:09 min | 2 years ago

021219 Part 1

"Welcome to the ace and TJ radio fan will family laundry. Welcome to the show. Good. So what is it? You've done. Well, when I'm really hungry. I'll go to three different fast food restaurants and order than eat at all. Okay. Instead of going to one place, you divided up among three restaurants, for example. What you go to Burger King? What do you get a burger? Either get a whopper and like the whole meal so like the fries and drink drive from Burger King to wear to Wendy's. I did a chilly and some crackers. Dr wear. Mcdonnell mcdonald's. I got a strawberry ice cream Sunday. Awesome. Great. She's doing the full Walker meal from Burger King go to Wendy's. Get a chilly with crackers leave their finger McDonald's and get either a strong ice cream, then go home and have it all. I'll eat it in my car. Do you eat the ice cream? I since it melts do either desert for. I okay. Okay. I thought you were eating between. Eight all the Burger King by the time. You got to win these order. Impressive. Mix it all up and eat it when I'm driving because they're not smelling it, and it's it's not so good online. You're eating it. While. Yeah. Thanks a lot of. That's a great example secure. This little voice. There's a guy here that says the DM his name is a chance, and he said I've bought an entire cheats fattest thing I've done about an entire cheesecake ate half of it. But then I realized I didn't want my fiance to know that I didn't have cheesecake so I had to finish it. TJ? Connected. Funny. Funny is the ACT J show. How many how many women to the bat for Macau was last night from the show about ten. I'd say. Within an hour. Triple eight forty one as TJ is our phone number one triple eight four one to twenty three eighty five. Male or female, whatever if you've met with half that many people in a week, give us a call. Think about that though. The bachelor makes out with eight people in a show and it's a game show. What in real life? If you made out with eight people in a week. That'd be awesome. Considering they're all attractive, or you're all into whatever. People think you're a terrible person. Yes. But on the bachelor, it's kind of goes with the territory. Yeah. Everything's okay. On on a TV game show. Circumstantial thing. So all my Twitter. Sometimes I do things then I feel guilty about it. Because I try not to be mean on there to have fun and like post fun stuff. Right. This is kind of cool check this out. So yesterday, I got behind a car and the car had and I forgot what it was something like like. Like sassy mom or something like that? I don't know you couldn't tell him. It was a male or female. But the the word sassy was in the I guess you could tell it was asking, but all the SS were replaced with dollar signs on the personalized license plate. And I found that to be one of the most offensive things. And I said, I guess my tweet was being because my daughter calls me goes, what is your deal because I tweeted that I if you replace all the SS with dollar signs on your person is I assume you're right off the bat. I just think you are. And then I went around the car that's a lady in that car at the even worse. Women are supposed to be classier there'd be personalized license plates. Well, you know, a lot of people say that when you talk about how much money you've got whether it's how much or how little. Then you're you're lacking some couth. Yeah. You know, whether you're saying go big new, you bragging or your poor mountain. Oh, well, it must be. I don't make that kinda money. And I can't remember what the actual what the actual license so focused on the fact that the three SS were all replaced by dollar signs. This person is a dish. Look at this. You gotta be kidding me with this writer that a three dollar signs that was it that eight three dollar signs DOE. No. Look at. Suburban mom stop. He looked stupid. Did you tweet it intra while you're on the road? No, I'll wait until. No, I'll wait until I was almost home. Dan. I literally I was at the red light close to my place. I was turning left and I determined left. The dreaded remember the tweet a minute. I want to get home. The unbelievably annoying. I don't know if you can tell not, but I don't feel very well. Stay home for a day. And well, all it did I did go to the doctor yesterday. And then the rest of the time. I just I mean, I laid. On my puffy, couch and move no more than my eyes. Maybe a finger or two when I'm changing channel. Senator are you laying long ways on the couch is recliner. It's a it's a it's a map of he couch with the recliner on side with a snuggie on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes. To have it on. My voice goes out. It doesn't matter. How I'm feeling. This job. Requires a voice, I've got a void hear my voice. This is a. This is a. Everybody on the social media's and everybody that wife and son ran into yesterday that you, you know, like the personal trainer Nick was telling my son ask like crap is war. Oh, great. That was yesterday that sounded way better yesterday that I do. I'm not so sure about that. I think you're really your voice sounds a little better today yesterday -til good. I mean, it's almost to the raspy level of Sassan. So little sub to shoot for. That's right. We're card. Let me drink a lot more. You get that that sound of your voice can drink. You got yours. I did drink a lot weekends, right? Darren. As my favorite thing of the day. And I'm sure this will come up later and now trending or something like that is this this clip of Cardi B. I saw the story on Twitter this morning, and it made me laugh out loud. After her win for best rap album at the Grammys, somebody sent Cardi B flowers and a note that has had Tom petty lyrics on it. It's from a song called walls. And it said you've got a big heart. So big a crush this town, Tom petty, meaning they were giving credit to Tom petty. I didn't write this Tom petty did Cardi B thought Tom petty, sit her the flowers. On twenty seventeen. Thank you, petty the flowers, I left the room. But the plows were very big. I was they can sell this such a beautiful. No. Because she's so sincere. Thanks, Tom petty, presenting your flower. Favorite thing in the morning. So I just laughed and then I realized I oh, wait listen to what when I finally heard her voice. It was that guy. She's so sincere. But joe. Look at Princeton me. A whole string of around there. This is my favorite day already. Is the ACT J? She'll kill imagine your wedding day. Ladies, it's the biggest day of your life. The biggest day of your life and the most important piece of the wedding. They outside of the groom has just come in. And it's a Trojan what it's too late to change it now. Or is it kind of these circumstances surrounding today's therapy. It's going to be great. So we'll get to that coming up at eight twenty eastern seven twenty central but in the tradition of Meghan Trainor who you heard here, I beat the BT K BTS that you heard here. I I wanted to say be to caved different deal serial killer. Yeah. That's right. That's right. There's a new group. It is emerging big what? And we will bring them to you. I next in delicious audio. Walmart family mobile. Check out their unlimited plans with no contracts right in the electrics department at WalMart and see how much you could save on be connected funny by following more show after the show on Twitter, hashtag more show and find your closest clean juice location by going to clean, juice dot com. To get more details. Click on the clean juice add right now on ace, TJ dot com or on the ace and TJ app. It's clean juice. Are you ready for everything and nothing all of the same time? 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Yes. Obviously their South Korean and immediately blows up with with a essentially Korean fan base around the world. But what happens is this is how music wired these days. So it hits you to training page and people start to go. Wow. That's the hottest training thing. Right. And let me check that out. Let me check that out. Let me check that out and it just explodes like as. Yeah. And I can't help. But think there's a large segment of their fan base. That's just interested in looking at, you know, foreign girls in skimpy outfits. Yeah. They look really young. You talking about the boys looking at him. I hope. I don't know that I am because I don't know. I'll have to check. I'm sure they're over in there like foreign all star players. You know, they they look about thirteen but maybe twenty three twenty four backed with exactly more delicious audio. This is of crazy. This is one of those things that I think is just fascinating. Because if we could learn to tap into all that the human mind can do there's no telling what we accomplish in life. But this guy in Colorado twelve years ago, his head diving into a pool and you suffered some unique trauma to his brain. He's fine. But the back of his head was hidden costs something called acquired savant syndrome here. He's telling part of his story here. I miss calculated diving towards the shallow end. And I struck the bottom of the shallow end on this side of my head and damaged the back end. I just follow what the blocks tell me to do. And I don't think a catch them all, but you know, I do my best to take as many of those notes as I can't put them into playing. Seems very confusing for me I tried to learn a couple of different times. Ability whatsoever to play the piano had never tried before. He hit his head. And then one day set down at a piano and now he can play. Incredible pieces of music, but he can't read music hitting his head gave him the ability to play the piano like a concert pianist, and he can just sit down and do it. And he described he sees them in blocks. All the music comes to him in in these blocks. He can't figure out make heads or tails out of being at a reading music, and he can't be taught because he doesn't understand it. He'll because he sees music in these weird blocks pop up into his mind when he says ended up yet. That's the only other thing. Remember, there's there's a woman that learned a foreign language after she hit her head a lot of things after hitting your head yet. But don't go hit and yourself in the head trying to to do anything like that. But eight to give that disclaimer to make would imagine. All the. About ten percent of the power of your brain. We just don't know how to tap into the rest of it. And then there's brain Deborah more delicious audio if you don't know what a little spaces. It's when a person goes into zone where they want to be treated like a baby. This lady has decided that being in the little space helps her deal with anxiety and her boyfriend is more than happy to accommodate her new interest. Some would say what you're about to hear is thirty seconds. It has a little incidently that's up to you know, little space is more of the the needy side. You know, I need you to take care of me. I need to come from me. I need to know that you're here to make sure that I'm okay, and such like, I just lost my straw. After lines when I break a rule or get in trouble. The first thing that I had to write lines for sixty six times because I was neglecting to call him. Daddy, when I have to write lines is like worst punishment. Yeah. Code you. Better to have to write lines and snort exactly point, my here's my question who's worse off? So because she doesn't call him. Daddy. He makes her write lines. Yeah. Yes. She's in. Yeah. He's of a willing partner. So I'm not really sure. But he's doing right. That's what that's what they make it out to be. But if he's making her do things like like because she doesn't call him. Daddy. That's what she wants. She said, I don't have to worry about bills like, you know, worrying about if the stove is on when we leave the house because I'm a young person. It's just so cream. It's and we've only seen guys do I've never seen that woman that wants to be treated like that's it's called little space. Is the TJ? She'll kill. All right. Say goodbye to the peace and tranquility you get from yoga practice. They've had to had to change yoga up. And now it will never be the same. Tell you what the differences are coming up next. Try our or the iheartradio app on Android auto and apple carplay. It's never been easier to get connected funny in the car and listen to the show more as TJ coming up. Juicy sizzling steak hand tossed Urgel DOE a forties blend Papa John's creamy signature Philly sauce. 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He hated it. That was his worst part. It's ninety minutes long. Never did was twenty seven minutes. I hate it. Like, the yoga me too. I find it. I find it to be exhilarating yet relaxing and gives my it gives gives my emotions recharge. Actually, I just like. But I like the relaxing part of the deep breathing and the stretching and the music and and one Mr. Rodney Yee's, soft supple voice telling me. Nama stay. You don't put your hands. Riggins, you know, put your hands flat on the ground or the floor. You know, where you put them on the earth on the earth resting your head? If you can on the earth. The Nobil Jerusalem. Yeah. Minnie's unsanitary Shen. Asian. It's really cool. Okay. But there's a new unofficial type of yoga that's called rage yoga. This is where ace comes in because he likes to rage both in his anger and in his partying true. So this is yoga poses while you yell cuss and drink. I tried. There's a website. Is it will help you get quote zinn as blank. Zan as blending one of the instructors says that even though Cussing feels like the opposite of national yoga. It has the same end goal to quote, let go of your frustration and rage in a healthy way. Okay. Now, so far the classes are being taught in Houston and in Alberta Canada. Oh, you know, the twin cities, Houston and Albert. I wonder if you can rage at the instructor when they put you in a position that you don't like your. Cuss at the instructor. You see this the thing. They don't actually put you in the positions. I mean, it's not wrestling. I mean, they tell you. You can see some of the classes are Ray jogo dot com. The lady who created it says that it is away to get in touch with your feelings because yoga is all about becoming one and getting in touch with all of your feelings at all of your feelings aren't calm, right? So this allows you to the benefits of yoga getting in touch and getting out those anger, emotions, my friend Betsy teaches a Pyo class a what for several of them day. And my wife says that they're they're crazy hard Pyo. Yeah. Pilates yoga combine my God. Interesting, but they don't yell and scream. Guess they could. Good Sasso the inside again. Cry. I want you to be all peaceful, and I've just come to the conclusion, except I don't have a peaceful mind. I can't I don't that's not me. I don't have a peaceful mind. You know, even though at this moment, I'm a tub of goo, I can still rest my hands flatly on the earth. My with my knees straight. Yeah. Yeah. I would tear both ham. He's trying to do that. There's no way I can do that. Because when I do the strangle in the Pete ideas, workout he's he's that to the floor. I'm like up touching the top of my shoe right now, I'm not what you would call flexible and we've seen him throw beer cans up against window. So imagine what he's doing the yoga studio. He polishes off a corona like. This is the TJ show. Here. It is only February and we have the most delicious mugshot of the year. There's a lady in jersey who says the cops are this tell you what this is. The ace and TJ show TJ even though I'm a year and a half older than my wife. I'm still too successful to be married to a woman her age. You know, the TJ show want to save up to seventy five percent on domestic or international airline tickets, then call low cost airlines for prices, so low we can't publish them. Call eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen. Comment on the ace and TJ show. Eight. If you get arrested. Just no. Whatever you do in your mugshot is probably gonna pale in comparison to this this fine lady in spotswood, New Jersey. Somebody had been breaking into cars around there. And I've never heard of spotswood New Jersey. But I'm guessing it's not a big place is a big place. Okay, in as a side note, if you live in the south now, and you're from New Jersey, don't don't get a snotty attitude with somebody who asked you if you're from New York, we don't know. Did that the other day who part of New York you front? I'm not from New York. I'm from new Jerry tsy. Oh, there's a difference. Sorry, you're on his classy as New York people. Knows that. Okay. But anyway, this this lady. This is was seen a Cording to the witnesses on surveillance video being the one breaking into cars. So the police arrest her after numerous reports, they take her mugshot is like they do in anybody. They're processing and right before the cameras snapped. She threw up to birds right to the right there. Double boroughs, defiant mugshot ever. She not even worried about. She's like when ring and all right there. You know? Her husband is proud. Well, he he probably is cops are this. Yeah. And you know, everybody throws the middle finger differently. You know, you have your own style for hers is thumb kind of along the side of the index finger this pressed up against the index finger I'm sitting here looking at how I do it out. Index finger kind of kind of, you know, crooked bent. Yeah. Mine has evolved over the years. It used to be this. In the now is calm. 'cause I don't do it very off. Where do you teach? My wife. Does it all the time? Meet me in she'll try to like like, she scratch her you know, that old deal. Okay. Thanks, dan. Got it. Got it. But they let you do that. It was that are official mugshot. They they post that one in slammer magazine or whatever their version of slammer magazines. I bet they post on social media because of getting on Facebook now point now people they probably take another one. But this one's for Facebook. Because I can imagine that you ladies are more defiant whenever you're being processed. And all and how dare you? How dare you have brought me in here because the local magazine that we have where we live that shows all the arrests over the past week and their mugshots cost. Slammer magazine has in your in the slammer. The women who who picked up for DUI, and all that always seem to have the better mugshots there. Either. Crying or they're like this woman. I don't got nothing. Cops is the. Spot would cops is the. So there you go ladies if you're getting arrested make sure you make make a Mark. Beyond forgettable. Remember that still a picture true, the mugshot, but still a picture Nieve? Robbie already got a couple of buttons on we try to get out of that ticket. Remember ladies show up and show. Coming up on now. Trading with Regan's. All right. Why is Chuck E cheese? Trending. I'll tell you. Why? And also BT you're not going to drag anyone by their lace front, especially Nicki Menaj details in now turning in less than ten minutes. There's more. DJ coming up. News. And then there's the important stuff the stuff. That's trending. Okay. So so many hilarious things are going on. I of all Chucky cheese is trending right now. And that's because Shane Dawson who is like a very popular youtuber put out a conspiracy theory video where he says Chucky cheese reuses slices of pizza when if if they're not eating and they put them back on a pizza pan and served other customers. Yeah. I don't believe it. It doesn't look like it's true. A lot of people that have worked for Chuck E cheese or saying this is not true at all. It's not true. Chucky cheese. I would sue Shane Dawson. Like, it's nobody's business. When you hell. Yeah. You just essentially you're slandered you accused my business of doing something that could be detrimental to sales. I come back hard in that situation. They should try to ruin him because he tried to run their business. There you go. Shane Dawson be on your unnoticed now. Imagine. Some people say that the pizza at Chucky cheese is pretty good. I don't know. I just go to hear the band. Just go have a few beers here. The band. That's right. No, no, no ban rocks. Like an animal Tron, man. Right. I've never been not not. I've never been. But everybody says they've got great pizza are missing out missing Jones. I can't imagine in the interim onyx. Cardi B won best rap album for the first time female artist has won best rap album glassy lens, right smashing through them. So offset the kind of on again off again fiance of Cardi beat released a video to promote his neck, his new music and in the video it shows Cardi B giving birth. So fans were quick do what they liked to call drag him on social media because he's using this very intimate private moment to promote new music. Does. He she didn't know kept it. That's what I said. I'm clearly not gonna do that behind her back. There was a camera in there. So yes, she knows. I don't know. But people just they wanna protect her at all costs because she's a lovable kind of character. But you know, what I've been a fan of hers from the beginning the way she acts. Yeah. You know, I like her personality, and all, but you know, I'm starting to think that she's not a virgin. No, I don't know. So we've got this audio we've played for you this morning Cardi was given flowers, and it was from Tom petty. Somebody voted Tom petty lyric on the card, and and then finished with dash Tom petty trying to credit Tom petty and Carter b mistakenly thought Tom petty sent her the flowers petty, the flowers, I left the room, but EDNA plows are very big I want they. Beautiful. No. Yeah. Tom petty died in twenty seventeen silly silly. And BT tweeted out after Cardi B won the the Grammy. They said meanwhile, Nicki Menaj is getting dragged by her lace front referring to her wig, or whatever, you know, the lakefront week. Manashe fires back saying young money will no longer be a part of the BT experience or award show summer Tate's summer dates summer tour dates dropping soon. Be has now apologized for the tweet saying it was not authorized we have supported Nicki Menaj from the beginning of her career. We're going to conduct an internal audit about how this happen. We are so sorry. So they are doing everything they can to get back in Nicki Menaj good graces, but I mean, that's a pretty Siri. I mean talking about Cardi B dragging her by relates front. I mean, it's crazy. I just love it. Good drama today in now trending so all those things are now trading. Okay. You change a lot of things you give up a lot of things to be with the one you love. But how much did you give up how much of your life? Did you change? You don't have to you don't have to measure up to the example. We're going to give you but the closer you could come the better, you're gonna love angle. Joe? Alexa, play ace TJ Dora. Play the as at TJ podcast, weird connected funny. And it's easier than ever to tell your devices you want the ace and TJ show. Now acer. Acer TJ. Jay, delicious device. That's what you want. I apologize for the way. My voice sounds. I'm sick. And SAS is thrilled that I sound like her today raspy I'll raspy over the weekend. I mean, I was just I don't let sick give me down that much. But but whatever this is has had me just home back and all weekend. I was watching nothing but net flicks and Hulu and Amazon prime. You know what? Rich people do. That's what I was doing. And there's a Netflix original movie with Jake Jilin hall and Rene Russo. It's called the velvet buzzsaw. Critically acclaimed as a matter of fact, I think that's what category was under critically acclaimed movies. Netflix originals. And it was weird and in a few. If you see what the gist of it is you probably think it's freaky showed. It's along. It's not even like a serial killer. Murder mystery type thing that I usually like is more along the lines of horror. But Jag Jilin hall plays. An art critic and. Rene Rousso owns an art gallery, and she represents artists as an agent, and whatever however that world works many way, the movie starts out with Jake Jilin hall in a committed live in relationship with a man he is in what is called a homosexual relationship if you wanna technical he has a he has a partner, but it's who is of the same gender as he right then. He meets up way knows this this woman, and she's very pretty and she is African British which I guess is what they would call black people in England African British right? We say African American they call them African British. I don't think I don't British. Yeah. Really? I when I said interest elbow was African Americans. No, he's just British. He not African American because he's not America. Right. I didn't know that. Well, yeah. I think it's just British. Okay. Well, she is very very pretty so pretty and so sexy that it made Jake Jilin hall's character change from being in his homosexual relationship to being in a heterosexual relationship with up. Right. Okay. And at that point, I became for the first time in my life jealous of Jake Jilin hall because this this woman is Brit pret. Her name is. Zaka we Ashton Z A W E Ashton. So. If you're gonna watch the movie, you may not wanna hear this part. I don't wanna spoil it for you. But it's it's all of the gist of of what this piece of radio biddies. So if you haven't seen it, and it seems like a movie would wanna watch I'll give you three seconds to turn radio down. So you know, here this three to one. She ends up. Breaking Jag Jilin halls characters heart by messing around with another guy who is an artist. And he's he's from the streets. And he he started as street artist. So he's masculine. So she broke his heart. And now if you're going to change yourself for a relationship that's different than stop being so messy around the house. Yeah. That's that's a hard. Right. Back to two. Yeah. You're making a one eighty there. Right. So. Had the movie not ended the way it did in the. And rang on the complete ending of it. But if they would have gone on. He's got to be thinking. Okay. A loss the guy I was in love with. 'cause I thought she loved me, and I was willing to change everything. And then now I have nothing. So it blew up in his face. So you don't have to come close to changing your sexuality in never say that he was bisexual or anything like that. So let's just for the sake of arguments that he was he he went, you know, that was his first trip into bisexuality, and it was just exclusively with art. Who changed the most to be with somebody and it ended up blowing up in your face? Oh, it's going to have to have a sad ending. Yeah. We're maybe not. Maybe you changed became a bad person. And then Louis you're facing. Now, you're back to being a good person. Or, you know, maybe you're back to stealing or feeling to be with her. And then she broke my heart. So now, I'm stealing again, man. I guess it doesn't have to blow up in your face. But just what it. Yeah, you're right. It could be something that you look back on and go. Hey, I'm glad it did. Yeah. It could become something very positive in your life. But if it did blow up in your face, it's going to be waiting. King. Stop stealing. I can't stop killing. So one triple eight forty one as TJ if you can call us because it'd be more fun to talk to you. And we're going to have questions. Yeah. Lots of they're no matter what or you can DMS. And and then we'll we'll try to go from there. We'll see what happens next. The AC TJ show Riggins take a couple of GB reps. Watch SpongeBob on DVD. I've got season three through seven. If you wanna chill and hang. Now, you know, the TJ show. Try our or the iheartradio app on Android auto and apple carplay. It's never been easier to get connected funny in the car and listened to the TJ show now eight hundred TJ all right? Talking about this movie. It's on the net flix called velvet buzzsaw. It's kind of a technically a horror movie, but in the movie is a character. Played by Jake Jilin hall, who changes leaves the the guy he's in love with living with for a woman, he decides he wants, and she she I don't think he said this in the movie has an acclaimed art critic. But she cranks tractor. Okay. That's nice summit up. Right. And. So she ends up. Breaking his heart. So what's the biggest thing you changed in your life in order to be with someone? Oh, no, see look if you're going to want to remain anonymous by calling yourself Lucy. That's the name we give everybody who wants to remain anonymous. Then you need to put that at the beginning of the massive foot it as our happen to look at the end to make sure ace would have read it, boom. And then not gotten to that part at the end because he's more. He's more excitable. And you know, I'm kinda slow with things I wanna tagged your story with Owen keep me Lucy plume after having told her about your night. So losing Mona says, oh and keep you Lucy, please. Why? So. So lose he says, I went full blown Mormon for a guy. I mean, no drinking no coffee teaching Sunday school every week Mormon got married, and it didn't last a full year. He was cheating on me the entire the entire time. She was converting her entire life to Mormonism. This. Loser is is cheating. The whole time before you make any jokes about Mormons the Mormon church years and years ago. Fishery officially made the statement that they are not for plural marriage or or bigamy or any of that. Anything that you see that goes on in those types of fates are are offshoots of the Mormon religion Mormons officially against bigamy. But that's a big change MOS out. There got your back. How much drinking? She did before don't know how much coffee ship before. But that's an entire. To altering the basis upon which you build a life because that your belief system that you change, and he's been cheating all of the hold. It was all ally. She's like I'm trying to get my own planet was I think they do that. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. No. I think no. I don't think. Verge. You don't check Zine that assigned. What are you talking about the fame? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mafia, right family. My cousins are more. They are in Utah. They drink coffee or they the only I don't think. So. Yeah. In utah. No says they can't have any any type of drugs and caffeine is a stimulant. So they can have sprite. Oh, okay. Decaffeinated beverages. 'cause I went to school was girl. Liz bonnet, and we were together kindergarten all the way through graduation, and whenever we would have LaPorte's and stuff. It's goal. She would have a sprite the rest of coke. Yeah. We'd go. I mean, you could have cake to unless it was chocolate. I don't think she could have because it has caffeine in chocolate and high state to change her every day to day life, and then he turned around and sheets like she has uprooted her entire being. And he's like, you know, what I don't feel like making out with you anymore. That's crazy. You didn't think that's what it came down? Did she catch? Did you catch him? Or did he tell you probably still list, she probably caught him? Yeah. You know, a lot of people do that a lot of people. Will change their entire look. Change their you know, we've we've talked to people before who were actually in a cult. That ran off to be with some other person guy or girl who's in this cult joined it and. Ended up liking that. I think I'm gonna call back into more. Do you think the first thing she did when she found out that her husband was cheating on her after less than a year? He'd been cheating the entire time. They were going out while she changed. I took a Mormon job one. She was like I'm getting a drink now. Yeah. I like going I gotta have a drink and take the edge off. Yeah. Probably taking shot right in his face. Yeah. She says she called him. He wasn't that slick. Well, that's she's better off. Now is the inner stalking her profile that she is in a relationship with a guy who seems to love her because he's kissing her on the head in one of the pictures. And she said, Yep. Right. Got a drink. I. This is the TJ show. No. All right. They have invented a new button by they. I mean, the geniuses have invented a button to tell you something that you should already know if you're in love with someone. If you need this button, you may not be with the right person. We'll tell you next is the TJ show. Coming up on the as and TJ show. Therapy. Imagine it's the most important dress you will ever own and it's also. Until you put it on. And now you don't want to do because it's also the most expensive that you'll ever those details and how you can help study coming up in about thirty minutes in group therapy on the TJ show. It's the Kaufman. Is I got up my? His up at my no mass way. So. There's a new invention. It's a Kickstarter right now. It's called the love sink. It's a pair of buttons one for you and one for your partner. And you're supposed to press the button whenever you're in the move. So it's like sink S Y NC. Yes. Okay. Yeah. If your partner also pushed their button, then you're button starts glowing. It'll make your button glow. And that's so you know, that you're both in the mood. This is ridiculous. Why in the world would you need this? Why when you just look over go. Hey owning. My buttons glowing. 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IWVT Ep. 154  Quenched Manes

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IWVT Ep. 154 Quenched Manes

"Improvised weapons features audio from donald boards dot com provides premium music sound effects and that enhance the top experience until you know bieber battle prime subscription. You can get access to the entire catalogue as well as tools like soundboards the mixer battle. Bart's cast allowing you to broadcast audio online across any virtual tabletop service. You can even upload emitted from your private audio wiber and with battle boards prime you getting twenty percent discount on all purchases head to battle boards dot com and subscribe to battle boards prime using coupon code. I w v t chest to save some money and what the mobile century battle battlefields to your game to the next level the greatest table top audio library material following is an original actual play dungeons and dragons podcast featuring comedians and improvisers nba. Great state of vermont. Welcome to improvised weapons last time on improvise with dez. No way that's possible the cha cha slide so it's fun it's fun thing king beds. I'm the candle. Inspector portrayed by a book before horrible. i don't care what. Trolls you've killed you. Bastard shishkabob book. Well don't steal my candle. Oh man the paper cuts bad book. Winkelmann bring him and another one hits the ground. I do this voice without yelling. I think might be trying to kill a little bit cooler than it works. And that's the criteria. By which. I make a lot of my decisions so i to pursue twenty now. The twenty twenty is over. All our problems are instantly solved. So we can press forward without any issues. Papa just killing the woman still the fire but at least we could provide you a little bit of reprieve with our silly dungeons and dragons with kurt. Welcome to improvised weapons last time on the show. The gang investigated these third of Tainted memories this one depicting the fateful night in the library that she discovered the orb connecting her to shock. The party quickly deduced that the candle ilda was using to light her way. In the library was the item they needed to retrieve and they concocted a clever ruse that saw olaf posing as a candle. Inspector this worked and they got the candle but upon grabbing they heard a cacophony of paper as all the books in the library shook off. The shelves took flight filling the air and dive bombing the party. They quickly gave the candle back so they can make a plan on how to deal with these new foes and that plan went to shit when garfield just a leroy jenkins did in through everyone into action alien quickly erected a magic circle allowing everyone to crowd inside and whittle down the flying phoenix from relative safety returning to the central void. The unlocked the blue and yellow locks and prepared to enter the red tunnel containing the final memory. And that is where we pick up. Are you heading right in or do you have something else you'd like to do. I do you think needs arrested. It or should be okay. I i can't think of anything. I would do to prepare needs to take a short rest and get their hypocr smack you i didn't. How much time meal has chained up in also rest long enough to get hit points back my reality go away although probably not gonna last that much longer regardless i know i feel like we should just move onto the next door and then maybe after that yeah that sounds good maybe risking arrest this one. Let's do agree with that okay. An old ashram Oles runs like a kid just offered candy to away from you. What kids no stranger danger danger. I thought it was the kid who knew me. No no no for candy on so you go towards the the final tunnel entrance and similarly as with the other three you walk through and you feel this quick breeze passover you hear the sound of hooves on cobblestone and find yourselves on the road of small village. There are a few wagons moving through drawn by donkeys. And there's a flower bed off to your left where you see. A girl looks about twelve or so picks up a flower holds it out to another young woman who takes it woman. Sniffs it makes a disgusted face drops it on the ground stomps on it walks away the first girl the one who had handed the flower on her face goes red and you can see tears streaming down. Her face took nicholas cage girl and for some reason the townspeople immediately begin to tax. You says i'm the face inspector. Okay but what's the rhyme on your shirt. We as the face. I don't know so it was a red flower that was handed to this pretty young lady. Yes it looks like a rose. I'm gonna real quick. Use my second wind ability just trying to regain a little bit points. See what i can get a young child. Crying child not face up. That was terrible. What happened there little one. are you all right. And the memory resets crap. Is there anything else read or is it. Just this flower. The girl's face all right. I don't know how many more times you can cast that circles bel air but it seemed to be pretty full for only have one it it affect lebanon irony upon vegtables not left. Well maybe better. I saved expecting to use it on a mall important. Yeah i mean it's to be honest. It was very advantageous to be able to just like wait that one out and not have to waste a bunch of spells in hit points low-level level things like that so that was helpful yes so the girl picks in hands the flower over the other girl sniffs. It makes a disgusted face. Stomps on it and walks away. Who's this girl i wanted to. I wanted to take a look at this guy who this person the one who's walking away or the one who's crying. Yes walking away. What to just describe. She looks to be about sexy. Mac and dillon. I don't really think you have to preface maggie. She's she's a very maggie jilin hall tight but but unlike the age of like fifteen right yes. She's she's cute. She's very cute She she has very red lips. Red our okay. Oh it's lips guys. We were playing dungeons and dragons. We had to rip the lips off of jilin describing dream that you have no. I don't know how sam comes up with this. Should one of us try to take the flour and see what happens. I think we can assume that. This mac each other in home fellow is going to turn into adversary and the memory resets. We don't wanna find out any information. We haven't really been able to find out much in the other. Three does not found out some stuff about ilda of. That's kind of what i'm going for. I'm just going to walk over. And before i grabbed a flower. I'm just gonna say i'm sorry about that. Who was that person but the memory has three. She hasn't had so. You're you're walking over to ilda holding the flower. Oh i sorry. I understood the sequence. Okay i'll just say that's a luxury flower. You is for sale or you. Just give it away. Oh no this is. I'm going to give this to someone important important a big shot or just important to you. If you don't mind me asking. I just i i don i guess it's kind of silly but i mean she's just i'd love her masilo and this is the most important thing in the world. Well maybe you and dry heaves to stay home of course a lot of dust not that you should put all of your hopes in that department of just one person or extra plane are entity. Of course you know 'cause lots of love the other girl is there. High high valera. Hello i picked us for you. Oh that's nice. Takes it drops it on the ground stops on. It makes eye contact with ilda while she stops on it walks away gives a sort of a little over her shoulder. She does so calcium. Dexter i do a prostitution to make like a cloud of fart smell cling to her as she walks even her farts smell good. They've got it bad. trust me. i've been there. Trust me when i say there's plenty of people out there who are more deserving of your love to find someone who will treat you like you deserve. You don't know anything more than you think. I've had my heart broken and mended more times than you've been alive years ago. Who second district speaking ability drawing wagons going up and down the road little girl. Picking a flower. Let's reappears right next to me and i go more live. Listen you know. It's a member of the amount of the time. It'll be clever me saying this problem with words. So she hands the flower odor rural sniffs it drops it stops on rat. Do we know that name sounds really familiar. Remember that name isn't that that's interesting is that is her alter ego. It's who she wants to be. I don't know the name. Because i was never introduced to that the rest of you explained that the suspect rusher okay. We'll go after. Like i think we we're going to have to take the flower. I like with the book attack valera before the probably books oh yeah how about this one of us runs. Interference goes and gets the flower. The flower inspector. So wake my candle if what any memory reset going to run interference. Shouldn't it be shouldn't be the one confronting the big evil thing directly assist the toughest. And do we use it. Can we dry try. Just picking it up off the ground after she stopped on it. And it's like walking away. Contri- still behaves as key. We should still be in battle formation. We should be ready once that happens this time. Instead of fumbling truckload let's get into clump of that standing by strike on lira. I'm gonna drive over thirty feet up in the air of i'll just have them to have track for leyritz a thirty feet above her until i give them the signal to attack. Okay i'm just gonna go stand near where she drops the flower. Okay assuming she hasn't done it yet not yet cast mayuge hand and get ready to grab the flower with mentioned dropped. What is your hand. look like. Oh it's not a sexy which not a hot. Which and i mean it could be but it's not i imagine. It has a very sharp cuff on the wrist. Yeah it's like from playing an upstream instrument. Well it's actually it's it's more like a gauntlet Like something that night fairy tale would would wear like right gleaming silver steeton Still gauntlets with like stuttered with a big single ruby embedded in the back of the hand prints madigan's hand. Yeah basically i mean he was. It was so long ago there are no surviving portraits of him. But it's much as you might imagine so to recap alien has cast true. Strike on the lira. Mola's standing nearby to ill de valera kassian has the owls poised thirty feet overhead valera and has cast your fiqh what are you doing. True star unfor- lira. True strike on valera. okay. I'm also going to be standing not clumps together with any of the rest of the group and some place where in a direct line of sight with valera button with none of the other group members between myself and her okay cool So ill dov hands. The flower of ve lira takes it she sniffs it she makes gross face. She drops it on the ground and she stops on it. She walks away. Cassie in your swooping in with may yet before it gets far enough away to reset the memory. I'm gonna say well. I would love a flower. She doesn't want it and at my hands. So you scoop up the flower with your hand. And i give a courtly little bow above stir action as you take the flower you hear a pair of loud winnings as the main of the donkeys in the of their body their body lack has been up on their back legs everywhere force would normally have like a tuft of hair on their bodies. It's flame their tails around their hooves. Their main rear up and then they charge so one of them charges in passing The other one charges at a witch. She's right behind the west until you drop the flower and their Maine's clench could go back to the memory. Quenching is like the best phrase. I've ever heard. That's my favorite romance quenching of the main. The main chicago asp. His clinching trembled his main clinton. Move far away from memory reset for again getting cocky donkey's in the streets. Just pulling wagons innocently cast true strelka. Where were the donkey donkey is now and filled off. Picks up the flower. hi lira. now. Hello i got you this flower. She takes it. She sniffs it grows face drops it on the ground stops on it really grinding it into the into the dirt and then walks away with a little over her shoulder leaving. Ill dove sobbing. I'm going to get out the decanters of endless water and position myself so that i'll be like the two donkeys are in a line for me Get ready and and i'm gonna ready in action to blast them as soon as their maine's light up use my tears ties to her took. Her teenage poetry has got to be as soon as starts walking away. It patriots that's an outside the system so yeah definitely apart from demons and so the flower has been ground into the dirt. Is someone grabbing it or are we waiting for reset again. No i'll pick it. Oh you can grab it. Then they'll charge you if you grab it so okay. So picks up the flashes and and justice him. I don't know if you heard me earlier. I said i hide somewhere good. Say you're not just before last. You grab the flower. The maine's of the donkeys ignite last just the opposite of quick and Yeah and you go to blast them so gimme a roll of d twenty dexterity got it no proficiency though no proficiency truly a weapon you can be proficient with With a water cannon. Come on a sire. Whatever the things cassie and his not. That's that's at twelve. Oh so close and yet you've missed. I think that's how that works So you fire the cannon cannon can fire the cantor of endless water But as they rear up You aim sort of like where they were in passes right under them. She's and and and a they take no damage from it They are their front feet. Hit the ground and they again go charging this time both directly at ola chopping illustrated So let's roll initiative that would have been payable fifteen eighteen. Thank you. I got to connor stats. Wouldn't have mattered. So i up is oh las olas are holding the flower and these two large flaming horses are bearing down on. Only i'm gonna. I'm gonna get the flower how far are the horses from or yeah. How far are they from me They are currently about will say twenty five feet away from you closing fast. Okay so. I am going to drop one of my animal balls and throw a rocky mountain oysters out onto the road. And it is god damn. It's a rat we we did today and make a hot ass joke yet. Well lindsey a tourist. That was it so you you save that you put that in your okay. All right. we're gonna sit on that one All right so. I dropped my rat. they get them squeakers. Can i so sorry. I imagined that you you were startled by the by flaming horse charging at you and like you go and then a rat just falls out of you. Yeah that's accurate so I am going to run forward like towards them. Okay but then i'm going to try to jump over them okay and like land behind them. Sure i just give me an acrobatics. Okay acrobatics. Are you sure can't do an athletics. Role yes yes. I'm sure damn That is a nine Nine so You run forward sort of charging at them while they are charging at you and you leap into the air With the aid of your ring of jumping. But you're just unable to to clear them as quickly as you wanted to And you take six points of fire damage as they burn your feet sees But then you land on the other side. Okay alien I'm going to cost. I'm gonna see what Oh well first of all do. I know anything about these creatures. That's a good. That's a good question to roll are will do all. We know that they're fiends. From olas thing we re looking for more specific fourteen. You've you've read of these kinds of creatures before you believe. They're called nightmare. Wait what nightmares nightmares. The i l. dollars t. m. a. r. e. yup mayor of the night ripe. I all you know. I sure is their immune to fire. That would make sense. I wasn't going to cost me if i imagine. Anyway i'm gonna. I'm gonna give radio frost a shot and see what that does. Okay yeah yup okay. So d- twenty on either one. That's a twenty six that will hit and it's too cold damage. That is eight cold damage. And the one that i attack is there. Speed is down ten until the start of next turn So you fire out a ray of frost and this sort of light. Ic- crack of energy hits One of the one of the nightmares and it leaves this like blue mark on its side. That's demonstrably noticeable And it is slowed for. Its next turn Now is the nightmare. And i say Have i have not put the whip back inside right. No you've been you've had it out this whole time. Cool then i'm going to say Fawn i think that the ice lash one Cool relieves gonna change to an ice slash just as smart cookie Cool so now. It is the nightmares turn so One of them is the one that did not just get hit is going to turn around and again charge it bullish And close the distance easily because they have a speed of sixty feet around So it gets right up on you and attacks you with its flaming hooves For a twenty one. I cannot believe squeakers did not distract them. Yeah that hits okay so that is so you take eleven points of bludgeoning damage and another nine points of fire. Damage no hoof. Oh man The other one The one who just got hit is going to run towards alien. What i'm hiding. You popped out to fire a bolt so but you are more than fifty feet away. Oh good so it does not quite reach you. Oh well what well. Good champions of forgotten realms cooktown beedon oh deed e e e g that's that code again is boon five megs and it's good until january twenty six. Don't forget to jump into the mid winter event unlock talent and his sweet combat wheelchair. Now cassius your okay. Where am i relative to the nightmares. I the nightmares If this if the street is is north south And you you wall sort of started. The memory on the south on the southern end. One nightmare is off to the east. And that's the one that just attack lush by the other one is a little bit off to the west going towards a win is about. We'll say about twenty feet away from where ilda this far away from the course of my right. Now you're only about ten feet away. If you had been right up on you yeah holy crap okay Is there any position. I can get to from where i am where i would be in where the two of them would be in a straight line for me if you did a double move. Yes that's not gonna work Can i get to within thirty feet of the one. That's charging aylwin yes easily. I will do so and i will say like that and i'm gonna cast blindness on it so it has to make a constitution saves rosalie nope seventeen. It is blinded. You just put blinders on a horse have to remember to move laterally on my from and then the worst bland the all's going to dive bomb. I guess when the lashes fighting okay. I one is a nineteen nine. Tease at another night with these owls. Hit going to complain to the owl store. I got to get your money back for believing solely defective. That is twelve damage though. So that's what purpose did you buy. Al's combat and light distraction if it says straight in the warranties these are not combat rated owls these are used only for personal purposes. You're doing these aisles. Yes you void the warranty on your right. I'm it's not worth trying. You're never going to get your money back i. I tried to return al's because the ones i got said hoop instead of hooton. I still negotiations that. Seems like a clear manufacturer the cool so One of the owls dive bombs and slashes across the back of that other nightmare a thick. I'm going to split my beam and two hundred one in front of and one beam into the other one. I'm going to try to use Repelling blast to knock it away from does repelling bless work on the other beam as well. It's going to the other one. I think so me shit. Any creature hit by my can trips. That means i think all of them can be repellent. Yeah i think you can. you can add it. Any of them are believed so i That is a twenty one gate that hits that is a seventeen hits that is a fifteen that also hit so all three hits mckay so to be tend to them and one of these is going to be an agonizing so that's eleven points of damage and they get knocked back away from ten feet okay and the third one takes six damage and gets back ten but ten and then i am going to move Closer to to give her some flanking instant okay so You move towards olaf still take you another turn to get up right next door but The nightmare that was attacking her is now pushed like ten feet off and the nightmare. That was going been bearing down on. Win is now blind and has been pushed ten feet to the side so it's really disorder ilda of yep l. is gonna run after valera Back to the top of the round ola. Sh okay I am gonna take a couple of squeak squeaks speakers down wouldn't forget it and I was reading that as i was trying to. I am going to take a couple swings with migraines is covered in rat at the one in front of me. Come on okay first. One is an eleven just misses and well. that's the i'm gonna re role that they got caught between the keys on my keyboard. Okay that is a twenty not natural. That'll do and kane. How i guess again. Full damage on the die is seventeen. Point seven points of cool so The nightmare that was attacking you got shunted ten feet away. You run over towards it and with your parade ax you slice into it right along. Its flank. it's a solid hit and what you notice is You know we've all cut horses with an axe before typical. Usually when you do that. Blood comes out what these horses don't have blood. They have like this. Thinned lava stuff that makes and It's on brand for should be. I'd be more surprised at flood. You now are you going to have squeakers do anything. Oh god he. I mean he has keen smell. Smell any smell anything. That might be helpful. i mean. He knows he smells fire. Yeah i i'm gonna have him. Just move away from the from the the fight he goes and hides in the patch of flowers. And that's it cool all right. I'm going to get different. Better hiding spot. This one was as good as i said it was. But this one is going to be so good even attack. Not to know where i am and i'm gonna cost. Yeah i'm gonna do the you know it's going to do what is going to rain frost again on the one that is closer to wash. Okay yes that's what. I'm gonna do a frost anti roll it. He twenty and the number on the d twenty is a natural twenty tonight so w die cool. Met his two d eight and one's a man Man while they're totally an eight. That's the double total. That's the double toe. Turn a three one so you fire off array of for us Similarly before it needs this like high-seas loose on the side of the The nightmare i would interesting. Is you actually hit it on the side where olaf had slashed it it it actually like freezes up the lava that was dripping out. I'll that's crazy on which is not like a helpful thing to the horse or anything like that. That's just like a cool thing. It does literally. It's a cool thing it is. Yes i and sam. Yeah i go back hiding again now. Yeah but this time. It's a good hiding. That's what i thought. Yeah you go over you jump into the back of one of the wagons. Nice cool fire wagon where they were dragging large barbecues rigged over coals. The is now the horse's turn So horsey do. I know we've got the horses you you said you gotta fourteen no fifteen. Oh okay can i. I missed took that. I thought you said fourteen. Nbd gopher well. I guess as a matter that much. I'm going to so i'm still within thirty feet now of the horse. That was going for alien right. I'm going to drum. Draw out his tear and run up to it and give it to give a stab with the rape here. I believe i have advantage since its update correct. Yes that's good. 'cause i one blue all right. That's a little better. that's five. Yes that will hit and that will be. That's thirteen radiant image. So you get a little poke again. Similar is what happened with olajwon through that wound some like lava thin thinnest lavas sort of pours out as if it were alllows. Jeremy osmond percival will continue dive bombing. The horse they already were okay. That's going to be seventeen natural. Twenty right we go right and a twenty one. I think they heard me complaining about them. Said shape club okay. They were worried. They'd hit the rotisserie improve so the first one is twelve road. The other in critical one now is a five. Then the crickets i just double. What's on the dice. Yep okay so that's okay so the three owls. Descend on this nightmare. They like scratch. It's all to hell burst one of its eyes and with with a final defiant winning all of the flame on it in its main around its food's tale it just like engulfs its entire body and then it just falls as a pile of dust which disintegrates then. There's that that acrid smoke rising off of it. Caffeine doesn't want to cheer because he doesn't want to give away his position to this blind horse. he's fighting but he's just like oh totally like popping fits and you know jumping up and doubts super jazzed about the owls. The came cool now. It is the horses. He puts the receipt back in his pocket for the not today So there is one nightmare left. He is currently blinded And he is going to just gonna roll perception with disadvantage and he sort of stops around like you know in horses are doing dressage. Go out like sort of straight in front of them in that weird walk. He's like doing that like he's trying to feel for something that nobody can't he doesn't make make contact with anything. So we just sort of like aimlessly searching around while blinded your fake okay. I'm gonna eldredge blast this one with all three and knock it becton to envied okay. That is fifteen That'll hit That is twenty points damage and that is knocking back. Ten feet okay. This was not looking good. Uh he looked bad in fact Now dav is still running after valera so we go back to the top with olaf sh okay. I am going to rage cool. And then i'm gonna take two more swings at that port it over to the horse. Oh oh sorry How how far is the other one. The fifty feet. But if you're raging that's your move speedster okay. Cool then stop questioning me. I'm i'm i'm so sorry. Don't cut off my arms. I will need them for holding a baby wealthy. Yeah i'm not a child is a human. She's gonna take swings at the alive. One yep There is a seven team. Yes and the second one is a eleven that does not aright wait okay. So plus three melee damage Eleven eleven of damage So you run over to the other or actually know what. Hold on. I take that back. You have advantage on both of these. Oh that's right okay. Well then i'm gonna roll that other attack again. Well well that's a twelve so mrs Bomber hit the side of a blind horse. Can't can i roll the one that i made just to see if i get a yet. You absolutely get this because all astras wondering with like looking at the horse and trying to wear arms list. Yeah i i did not get a cool just so just the normal one again Slice and into the sides of this horse and it's it's really looking like it's wagging even the flames on its back are sputtering and alien. It's my turn it is your turn is down to you. Ditched down to me I think i think i'm just gonna keep doing trips. Just melt to to melt the night. Man keep chipping away. Raya frosted as again. It's a nice jabber. Let's get another by. Hey seventeen die yet. Twenty-six with my attack modifier. Yup that'll do it and to eight. Hey well that eight same. As last time. When i had a great. That's enough to do it. You hit it again. That blue streak shows up on its side. Ice crystals forming on it the flame on its back on its Tail on its hooves. Completely quenched and it falls over to the side and as it hits the ground just like explodes into a pile of dust disintegrates and then that acrid smoke rises from where it was. Oh i get out of the wagon. You solved my donkey puzzle of a doggy. So olajwon has the flower in her pocket. Yeah i does. Anyone want to try to build of again or should we just go to seem that much on her mind except for being in love truck enough about that today alcohol. That's one eighty become cynical. I think it was minister. Donkeys attacked us. If you can't trust what can you trust in this world just death and taxes. And they're bunch of. I don't know if anybody pointed this out yet but those donkeys were some hot. Those assets was smoking. Mo- some might say those assets were straight fire In villa bisexual same asks was the main attraction. Alessi's and i don't. I don't mean leaves this area. I mean leaves the probably last night before you go. Did you see. Did you see what i cast. Ray of frost and it went right down. The crack of that has okay. That was worth it. Okay you could now are all of you leaving or is just less leaving. No i think we're all gonna go going. Okay so you go a walkover to wear. You entered this memory and as wash cubs within five feet of it with the the flower in her possession. That tunnel entrance appears again. You all walk through. And as wash passes through last the tunnel behind her just evaporates and there are now no tunnels leading off of that central platform and had void space. There is only the door in the centre othello. Should i put this key in or should we well. Maybe we should rest a little. I mean i don't actually know if we're on a time crunch or not i spent we are because not The binding spending now it an it. Oh wait now. I thought so the original spell that that professor wind whisper gas when she cast feign death. When you were out. He'll that only lasts an hour. This one lasts longer. She did say. I'm not sure how long it will hold. Just because of other things that she noticed about what demon is capable of folk out like that but she was confident you would have longer than okay so we don't know how long have we don't know and we. We also know that this time works the same way. It doesn't blah blah blah. This can can. We assume that squeakers like came with us. He's on your shoulder. trae perfect. I got so scared that i left that memory that would have been such a butterfly effective more rat in the world. Yes yeah his what. I'm thinking i think we probably have time to catch our breath for a bit. And we're sitting right here next to the big door. I feel like notice if anything starts to happen and we can cut our rest short right. I mean it's not like we're going on conscious we would just be hanging out waiting if if you would rather not. That's fine. I just found. I could get my inspiration by. How long have we been in here already. It's it's kind of hard to say with. How many sort of repeating memories. You've been through at this point your best. Guess is you've been in here for maybe an hour to. I nervously think i would be. Okay just go in. But i know that a few of you needn't need the rest so i'd be okay. Catered ten recuperate. I think we can. I think we can swing it. I don't know about need. I mean if we'd rather if we'd rather not chance it. I'm still pretty close to today's fresh here to be honest. Compared to how. I've been for the last. I guess it's really just been like thirty six hours but it felt like months upon months without acting. You know what i'm saying. Come on we're never gonna die. None of us are we could press on. I don't know. I have unless anybody else alien. Alien asshole insight for me bro. Insight okay and that is going to be a plus to to the number. I'm about to roll. Which is seventeen so nineteen okay so As you are all thinking about whether or not time is of the essence man. It occurs to you that it. It hasn't actually been that long. Since shaq took over. Bill doves body. Obviously she has been a warlock behold into this patron for for a long time but the actual taking over of the body wasn't really that long ago like you all have been. You've done a lot in this amount of time for sure but just the amount of Influence that you've already seen just in the four memories that you've experienced would make you think the time may actually be of the essence right. I relate that to friends. Listen given how how much time the demons are actually been apart of his plane and how much power. It's crude over that short amount of time. I don't think we have any seconds to to waste all right fair enough. Let's go i mean. App is able to ride a polymorphic. Let's let's go. I'm going to put the last key in. Osh rerouted only talkers. Squeeze rat turns into a key. No olaf should takes. The rose out of her pocket ended his now key and as with the three prior times You hold it up. It passes right through the energy field. Goes into the lock. The lock clicks off the chains fall to the ground and just evaporates into nothingness. As if they were never there the door itself there is a a torch on either side of the frame that as the last lock comes off lights up and the doors themselves open inward showing you. This sort of shadowy miasma this void like area which is similar to the titles that you've passed. They're already though through this one. You smell the hint of sweet strawberries. You here just just a touch of music coming through and that's where we'll end this episode our. 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Worlds Finest Geeks Podcast Episode 6

World's Finest Geeks Podcast

30:08 min | 2 years ago

Worlds Finest Geeks Podcast Episode 6

"Hey everyone, welcome to the world. Find his geeks podcast. We all your world's find his geeks, your co host events. You could cash me on Twitter at Bence. The geek essay, any hurry here to my right? This is rob. Mere other co host, and I am Aki, greater rob. Geek writer rob on the Twitter machine. And of course, you could always catch us on world's finest geeks dot com on Twitter where at finest geeks and Facebook and Instagram is at world's finest geeks. Let's get into it. Let's do it. Have you been? It's been a month since we since we may be a little bit longer than too long to law in a busy busy summer so far we did find some more money. Thank you guys out there for giving us some money. So really come into you guys once a week from now on. And we have a lot to get into since we haven't been here for a month, maybe a little bit more. I do believe we have Spiderman far from home. Reactions to start out with Jerry action. Yeah. Spider-man far from home. That's a new movie. It's coming out. When comes out next week, we only have less than a week until July the second opens on Tuesday, July second. But as you guys know, the embargo has already left it for those that you don't know. That's why you watch us. Right. So that, you can know these things say it's pretty unanimous out there pretty positive all around. I'll tell you the reactions. I went off embargo last week at around five pm on Wednesday or Thursday. I don't remember what day on the first one I read was somewhat not negative, but it said they'd get the movie a be minus two c plus and I'm just like, oh, no. This is going to be the first not good, Barbara. You know, not so great marble move Ainhoa. I, I didn't see any of that. I I heard you mentioned. About. Yes. So he does just don't agree with the name any names. Right. Right. But ultimately, all I see is how great the movie is this guy says he enjoyed the hell out of hashtag Spider-Man far from home. This one guy says that he loved loved loved the movie Jay Jilin hall suits up and completely embraces his robe. Loves Spider-Man far from home. An absolute home run so much fun, huge itself. Funny, exciting romantic goofy. I mean ROY Moore, can you say they won't have asked for absolute home run, it looks like so, yeah, looking forward to it far from home. There's some room was going out there. And of course, we don't want to go ahead and ruin everything for you guys. And what the hell do we know we haven't watched a movie? Yeah. We're just going off of what everybody else is saying. Right. That's right. So I heard that far from home, which is obviously in the title is actually not even about the euro trip that they've been alluding to in all of the commercials right there, mentioning that this could be him going to some other dimension. That was created by the snap in well, I don't know Infinity were and game or both who know. And so that'd be a pretty interesting dynamic. We know that this is going to be the end of the Infinity war saga. And so for us to go ahead and now have a split dimension or a parallel universe, where things are taking place that'll. He actually pretty interesting for them to start their necks. They sure absolutely. Absolutely. We haven't seen any of that yet in this universe. I'm also seeing Spiderman far from home is released by Sony Pictures. So we've been seeing something about something about video games there. Well, well, I heard from the movie about the movie that mistero might not actually be the big bed. Oh, well, we know that it's not venom. Sure. Not going to be, that's what we all want to see, but we do have a situation where Sony can't work with marvel with specific characters. We have this agreement right? A long time ago. Back in two thousand fourteen Sony Pictures and marble studios made an agreement where they would share the character of Spiderman marble studios would produce the standalone Spiderman movies and Spiderman would appear in three event, three avengers or marble themed movies, which we've now seen, captain, America's civil war, and the two last avengers films. And we know from when venom was doing their press release Kevin by almost hated every time you could see the and discuss in his face every time they asked him, how Benham was connected to MC you. Right. And is because it's not we know that these properties can't work with each other. And when recently asked about Kevin during this last press run. Right. He they asked them. What's going on, with venom? We'll we'll Tom Holland's Peter Parker ever meet venom. He said that the balls and Sony's court. Correct. And leads us to believe that there are some contract renegotiations taken place. We know that the next Spiderman movie is the last movie on Tom Holland's contract in their agreement. But we don't necessarily think from what we've been reading that they're wince when Kevin Feige says that the balls and Stoneys core, it could be something else that I started alluding to little a little bit ago, and I think that it's it has totally to do what the overall contract in place is not necessarily what's going to happen with Spiderman. I think they're marble wants all of the Spiderman properties back mainly because of the spider man villains. Vitamin has some of the greatest villas in the MC. You never mentioned Spiderman is the third biggest superhero of all time only behind Batman superman. And so for him to come back to the MC, you would be a great opportunity for marvel and marvel storytelling in the future. But that doesn't mean that it won't be a great opportunity for Sony. We know this only just finished coming out well now. Just finish. But they came out with the Spider-Man video game, which made, but load of money, more money than the Sony deal in general, and I think maybe even all of the spider movies, put together it just made a made so much money billions of dollars. So I'm thinking that, if marvel and Sony are going to continue in their partnership. There's going to be some ultimatums, given sure we know that aiming PASCAL recently said that they are working on us by demand, into despite of -burse follow. Correct. And the only way that they keep all of the animations, if there's if they continue to move forward with this whole Spiderman thing. So if they're gonna make a Spiderman into despite Burs movie parts who and they're gonna make a Spiderman video game parts who which they've already got their side company working on, then they're going to have to automatically, give marble something back in return. And I think that's going to be all of the other characters. Correct. And you know this is not a fail this. I mean, this is a win for Sony to if they can get the video. Game rights to spider man in the marble character. Oh, it's a win for Sony. It's a win for marvel is a win for us. Absolutely Sony is telling video game property stories than we're gonna get a dope. Video Kasparov man was a dope. Video game. Right. Story was dope. Everything about the movie the video game was doubt. They created an entire little universe where you can just go ahead and be Spiderman, and they could do the same thing for all the other marble properties, trucks, men, then jurors fantastic for we already seen the avengers game are at least previews of the vendors gave inex-, right? How Lord Farquaad do they look blue burglary? Lord farquaad. I must say ultimately is the win win for all of the all parties involved in coup including us the consumer because you didn't like into the spider verse we wanna see. Yeah. I wanna see more movies in the universe's love venom. We want to see 'em inside of the MC you, we love Norman Osborn. We die entire internet wants to bring Norman already into the MC you in. Kevin doesn't have the right to do that. Correct. So I'd say that they start and I heard a rumor that they are actually already started casting four somebody to play Norman Osborn, and if that's true. Yeah. Then they must be negotiated than we actually thought. Hey, we might get a surprise and far from home during the end credits. Who knows speaking of surprise castings inside of Spiderman, I heard, or you know, it's all over the internet is not me. It's not like I have some Brady legit scoop right ever, but Kevin fight. He's been in talks with Kiana reefs. Yeah. Kiana Reeves is having somewhat of a big comeback lately with just a bunch of projects that fell into place just at the right time. I think you said you saw him in enough looks movie, did you know, Netflix? It's always be my baby man are always be my maybe that was such a good move. If you like chick flicks. I definitely recommend that you go ahead and check out always be my, maybe it was definitely a fun. Entertaining movie, great Kiana Reeves plays himself. He's like a douchebag though version of himself. I don't know if he's douchebag in real life, I've never met him. He seems like he's a cool guy. Seems like inside of the movie he plays a douche bag, and you just want to punch him in a phase one of those, he's a good actor, so. Yeah. It makes you wanna punt. Right. Right. Luckily, Randall park from fresh off the boat who actually stars and always be my maybe got face. So that's pretty cool. You got to see him by one of your favorite character actors, it's pretty cool. If so, and then, of course, we know that he has just been announced to be a villain in one of the future installments of fast and furious movie we don't know if it's going to be for the right original franchise, or one of the off franchises like shops. It's called. Yeah. How didn't shy and they just started filming fast nine whatever it's going to be called? So I don't think it's for that one, but man everybody wants this guy under their roof. Do they not? Absolutely. I mean look, Kiana res fell off a little bit. But as far as I know him, he's one of the biggest movie stars. I know in my generation, I'd love to see a proper sequel to speed all these years later. He didn't do him in the seats, the largest action star of the nineties and early two thousand Bill and Ted movies like when I was younger, I was probably in the range for that. I don't know if you saw them like I'm a little bit younger, but I have an older brother and we used to actually building through right at my dad hates. We would also. He's also always do the dude and whatever funny, I think my brother, and I did that too. But he is going to be in Bill and Ted which comes out and August of twenty twenty and they had begun filming it. So man. That's awesome. We even have that coming out twenty five years after, so he's rumored to have been in talks for marvel movie. We don't know where the character is. But we know that there several that he could certainly fill the role of that's for sure. I think he's too skinny to play most characters. But, you know, I'm C, you does a pretty good job at bringing these, they do outlandish comic book characters to real life. We've seen people say, oh, he could play more while maybe face accurate. But I don't think he really has the physique for name at all maybe an eternal character. I think turtles I, I was thinking king, but he would in my eyes he could only play like the young Egyptian king. He's already too old to play version of king. He's, maybe the old man king well, can is going to be an actor like Josh Brolin, motion, cat prob. I would say so, so if you're gonna have Keno, then don't hide his face. Right. And you know. Daynuss is not a character where Josh Brolin's face. Got hidden in there. You did a great job what they know. So actually, yeah, you're right. You're hangs more wearing a mask, so you don't wanna you don't wanna waste key on your own king. Yeah. I also seen him up for the role of doom, which that would be pretty interesting doctor doom. I'd be don't need to be as physically empowering as he is. He has the technology. He's a king. He's a quadrille air and I'll just say race. And I'll just say real quick off in passing that, that the creator of legion. He actually was working on a Dr do movie, and supposedly he has met with Kevin fi- recently allow, and they're talking about maybe they're still gonna make this doctor do movie that he was working on. So we'll have to see about that. It'd be actually interesting to see that in the right hands going into the right direction. Yeah. That would be awesome here. He was also until. And Toy Story Toy Story as well. That's crazy. Which we both saw. I did not see Toy Story. I saw Toy Story. Yeah. Ye subtly anti sorry was good man. I'm not gonna lie. It was the classic Pixar movie. Tear Jerker funny. Family friendly doctors with every unit had a little bit of terrifying. Terrifying characters in there the Benson, or whatever it is, is eventual quiz. He's like a bodyguard. But he's scary is how her some kids in the back like cryan. She her grown men in the front cryan. Yes. And kids in terror grown men and sadness all around great movie did a great job at keeping the comedic point and keeping a detained and so they'd Kiana res he played do caboose, which is like a dump Canadian stuntman who helps Woody to accomplish his goes in the movie we're pretty worked to pretty good movie. Overall, not going to go ahead and give away too much of toys story is really not nothing to say about it except for I enjoy. It it I thought that maybe it was as good as to maybe not one because it's one and only because it's one and I know you really love and three. I wasn't really loving three. Yeah. No, I absolutely. Just adored three. I mean, I thought it was at that it was the perfect trilogy. Capper. I didn't think we'd ever see another one. I could definitely agree with you on that. Right. And this movie did a good job as being its own stand alone. Movie you have to watch once who went three. They had a quick five minutes where they brought you up to speed and then the movie starts, and we're, we're good to go. We we're back and actually the first time minutes was pretty though, we're back in Andy's room and the original. All right. Like who are one the whole set from par one. So that was pretty interesting. And then, you know, time progresses, and they get passed onto bunny and Albany is their new toy and they're having to protect bunny from from the real world ranking ship cool. Pretty. It's definitely now, one movie that we both saw that I don't think you appreciate it too much. So I'll just do my quick review of it is the remake of child's play. Child was now you gotta understand. I was watching this movie as not a and I know this sounds ridiculous, but I was not watching it comparing it to the other Chucky movies that were in the past I kinda came into this, one fresh, and the reason I did that was out of respect to dominancy knee who is still working on the Universal Pictures. Child's play franchise or Chuckie franchise rather. They're not called child's play. But he is making his own TV series of that. And he's not happy about this movie which I can understand. I'm sure that you're gonna make them feel a lot better in a second. But I'm just going to say it was a ninety minute. You know, fun horror romp. Like I enjoyed it for what it was. You know, using the A I technology and just seeing like essentially this, this walking talking. You know, Alexa, sorta come to life and work everything in your life. I thought that they use that. Well, I thought the kid that played him was good. You know. It was okay. I enjoyed the movie. That's a guy on the other hand elects. I agree with Don Manzini. Whatever his time, this movie was utter trash, if I was to put it in a lineup with all of the other Chucky movies modern three, this movie, only maybe tops. Seed of Chucky and yeah, and the one befall before cults of Chuck curse of Chucky. There you go. That's pretty much. It's pretty sad to say that bride of Chucky and Chucky were both better than this will be an absolutely the first three. The trilogy was way better than this movie. Look, I agree. It should have been a stand alone movie. We should have not have had compared to the other movies. But why are you going to give it the same name, then if you're gonna go ahead and make a remake of a movie. Why are you going to leave out the most important part of the movie? This was not a Chucky movie. This was a this is Wilson's AI and instead of like robots that help us in the house, the right dolls the call the AI doll or something definitely wasn't Chucky. There's no Charles Lee. Ray you guys. Not a movie about a serial killer trapped in a doll. This is a movie about a doll who doesn't have the right programming and goes crazy. And he's like a jealous friend. That's you ever seen the swim fan? You've seen swim fan instead of a girlfriend adult that the good comparison, actually, the murders in the movie subpar. We had one dote murder where you killed that the mother's boyfriend who I won't. Right. I wanted to kill him. Yeah. So rightfully so he, he died in a perfect way dote. They wrap his head around the watermelon loved SEM other than that, all the murders were soft so subpar Chucky murders. When you're looking at Chucky overall, a character, how gruesome and crazy he is. And then and then we have the Martha moment, I'm head and call it a Martha moment. I think that we should just describe it. Spoiler since we have, you know, we, you know, we're, we're running ahead on time here a little bit. So you should go ahead and describe the Martha moment because I, I didn't get it at first when you're Martha moment. So BB s we have this epic showdown, Batman versus superman and the only thing that could get them to stop biting the word Martha bright Bisharat mother's name. So, you know, one of the white as Martha the ones look what did you see that name biting? And now they're best friends, right? Right. Super corny super dunk ways. There's no questioning right? So in this movie, we have crazy Chucky. He's already learned all his bad programming because he has all his program. Restrictions turned off my some grunt, disgruntled employee who is now dead. So you can't do it again apart to, I don't know how where are going to bring back Chucky and part to his not his name in even Chucky short for Charles, Lisa. Oh, where the fuck he get Chucky from anyway. Chuck going crazy. He's murdering everybody and then Andy. And why are you gonna main the boy and be if there's no Charles Lee Ray? Right. But you got the boy, Andy and the boy Andy is go ahead and start singing the my buddy song or whatever the new song is called, right? From the start singing the buddy song. And then Chucky has his moment of weakness. He has that Martha moment what he looks and he, he stops he freezes dead in his tracks, just like superman and Batman, did they start singing the song? And then all of a sudden, we forgot what we were doing the entire movie jockey snaps out of it. What was that about that was trash? They probably could have used something else for a distraction, like, you know, like good writing. How about that? Yeah. What was the point of Mark Hamill? Why was Mark Hamill, even Chucky, the voice of Chuckie? It's Mark him icon. Ick boy, where's I con it. The only thing that he did was sing that song, at the end of the movie that was fucking by. Right. That's it. That was the best part. Of his voice, he role, he didn't do a lot of menacing as Chucky and by menacing. I mean just having to use that sinister sorta boys. I'll avoid that we all grew up with. Oh with him as joker. You know saying, right. We thought we thought when we saw Mark Hamill was gonna play Chucky. We all thought all that's it. We know the commercial looks bad, but his Mark Hamill right wrong. Again, just glad just a quick entertaining fund ride for me. And I loved that Berwanger attaining and fun. Yes. Scary horror. No, no. It wasn't everybody laughed. Everybody in the theater was laughing the whole time the whole movie was a comedy to everybody in the data. Nobody was scared you jumped in the parts that make you jump, because you have to jump were human, right? We have can reactions. Right. So for for a scene to make you to start. Oh, you that's not how you compare good. Good scary movie. Come on. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Moving on Chucky. Was trash you liked it. I know a couple of people that liked it. I think I'm the only person with feels the way I feel about it. Well, what have you. Now, this is we're not gonna agree or disagree on because what are you watching, because you're watching different things than I did you guys minimum? So we've been watching a lot of things and, you know, we watch that's what we do. We watch. So I think oh, you know what I want to talk about. Jessica Jones says it was the last the last season that we're going to get last marble show. We're getting on Netflix last marvel show again on Netflix. And you know, we were both disappointed in Jessica Jones season to season two, I think got through three or four episodes. I it was a tour to get through. I I'm quoted you could quote me on that. Jessica Jones season two was a chore right? Archer nothing nothing bad, about whatever. Her name is Kristen Ridder. She's a great, Jessica Jones, probably almost an exact replica the comic books, right? She's perfect as Jessica Jones. It's just a bad season. Right. And you've got your mother. Bush Bush Bush, whatever season three though we still dealing with family affairs, but who's pretty good. I'm not gonna lie like what they did with Trish, her ho storyline as hell cat. I didn't think the way that it ended was the right. I think it was lazy. They just had those at allude to her becoming hell. No. She becomes, okay? Oh, she does, but she's bad? She's not a good guy, she's. Oh, yeah. So they kind of an and rather than giving her the space to come back and redeem herself, they just have Luke cage pop up in one scene. And he's like, you know what you gotta do you gotta arrester doctor has her in jail. The whole Jerry Hogarth storyline. Trash blow it away. I even need, none of that. And it was super relevant. Other than that, if I was to have to rank all Netflix shows in order, it would definitely be all of their devils. I. And then Jessica Jones season, one season three Luke, she's in one Jessica Jones season. To the defenders, Luke agencies into and then less, and, of course, lease is going to be Danny ran, in iron vis course. Yeah. Crew that I haven't even seen them all. So all in all pretty good way to wrap up, Jessica Jones. All right. Well, I will go through. What do you watch? I actually just caught up with for the most part is the CW DC shows I caught up with super on the flash. So I'll just like briefly go into supergirl. I supergirl was actually pretty good this season. I thought it was a step up from last season. I didn't really like the development of rain, even though I'd like the actress who played the good guy version of her. So we moved on the season. And the big bad is a guy named agent agent. Liberty whose real name is Ben Lockwood? And he's actually played by Sam Whitworth who played doomsday in the OR all Bill season. Eight believe it or not. That's pretty cool. That was pretty crazy. But at any of. Yeah. The, the story line takes place a little bit, too close to real life like were aliens are viewed as immigrants, which I guess, they are superman super girl are technically alien immigrants. But right, little, too close of, you know, like with them jailing aliens and being against the aliens and just too close to what we're seeing in the news that I don't wanna get into at all. And even though it does like mimic, a lot of what's happening here at our in our country here today at it kinda the same story line. That's been the main storyline since threaten one of supergirl is pretty much she's an alien. She don't belong here and they all need to get off the planet, right? It just goes like full force into it this season. But I think I think we're looted to that being over with at the end of the season. So I think that that's that's good. All right. And then when we're keeping things you know, as they are in real life, we have a character named dreamer in there, and she's like another superhero character whose transgender transgender actress and a transgender in real life. So that was. Kind of that was kind of cool to have in there. And then, like I said the big bad his agent liberty trying to round up the aliens. But we also get three episodes with lex Luthor in the season, and he's played by Jon Cryer from two and a half men was crazy, right though is going to be we were going to be the worst thing ever. But as old as his mom is on the show. Come on. Right. This I. Yeah. We were talking about that. How he's like the same age as mom, but he ended up being pretty good. He ended up being pretty menacing, his Lexi took the job. Seriously? It's great. And I really enjoyed his role, and it's kind of cool, the season finale is called the quest for peace, which is the subtitle of the superman movie. He was in the eighties where he played Lenny superman for the quest for peace was name of the movie. So I think he wanted to sort of make up for that role in quest for peace. Awesome. And just real quick. I'm gonna go ahead and mention a black mirror. Was trash, right. Trash, we had one, good episode. The first episode with the gay video game stuff. Right. That was I thought you know what I saw that one. I think I told you that maybe I didn't it was actually pretty good episode is very Sifi. E is something that kind of creepy a little bit. And that's what you expect from black mirror, right? Super free to rich futuristic, and little bit creepy. Right. Second episode was kind of wack, honestly, it's not even worth. Mentioning, and then episode three with Miley Cyrus who plays Ashley Miley, Cyrus, did great and I don't like Miley Cyrus. So for me to have to say here and tell you guys how great Miley Cyrus was kind of pisses me off. But the episode in this was not that good. Actually, the story line kinda aligned with Chucky almost identical except instead of crazy killer doll. It was actually saving herself from crazy psycho stepmother. It was a dull AI, your best friend's gonna make your life easier. Blah, blah, blah, blah control everything. Right. Keep all your history, memories and all of that. But it has restrictions in his brain, and we come to find out it's actually a carbon copy of Ashley's brain and printed on every doll. They just lock it up so that she's only a Bill do whatever she she does. It's two girls figure it out on lock her, and they go ahead and save the real Ashley who is my virus dope. Episode overall who comes out with three episodes for a whole season had given us Bander, snatch fucking trash right draft movie. Pretty much a saw I mean, I, I wouldn't review it for our website, so trash movie trash movie. So you thought they come back with some fire, but no, no fire, just a more trash one, good episode one decent episode and that was it. I really got my no say about black near. They better come hard next time more. In three episodes, kind of like minded with this. Like I didn't really like the season of the flash very much. This was season five and the entire season. Like sorta revolves around his daughter coming from the future nura, the version of Harrison wells in this as named Shirley wells or however, it was pronounced is supposed to be like Sherlock, a play on it, that character that version of the character I didn't like very much the Bill into Kaieda is just a guy with this power knife. And how does that work against the fastest man alive? Hello, come. You can't come to a flashlight with a night, bro. And then either. Yeah. And even the yeah. Literally, and then, even though he was pretty much vanquished vaporize in the season, the first season of reverse flash. They are a of the flash reverse flash returns with the yellow costume. Another version of Harrison wells. It's just say it was an interesting addition to the story, but it didn't make any sense in the end, but he ended up helping out Nora, Allan the daughter. And there was a dope episode with king shark versus guerrilla, grod, which was pretty much. Yeah. I mean that one's worth just going to watch alone. But overall just like a, a pretty easy. Yeah. Not very okay season. But they do cap it off with a, a wha what, what will be crisis uninvited near earth who's going to be the crossover this year. So they do cap it off with that. And I just wanted to mention with that is there's also one in supergirl, too. So I let you guys get those no spoilers on those. Unfortunately, that is all the time. We have one last quick, mentioned, good omens on Amazon prime is by and all you morons who say is blasphemous and sign a petition for Netflix to cancel it. 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Rebuilding Trust in Your Marriage After Infidelity (Part 2 of 2)

Focus On the Family Daily Broadcast

28:07 min | Last month

Rebuilding Trust in Your Marriage After Infidelity (Part 2 of 2)

"Kim spins a lot of time. Away from home. Working on the pipeline alaska. But our podcast has become his lifeline. Focus on the family has helped my marriage by leaps and bounds. You give us so much meat and potatoes to think about. It just keeps us grounded. Keeps me grounded. I'm jim daly together. We can bring real hope. Two marriages like kuenz. Give today's focus on the family dot com slash real families. Imagine finding out that your spouse has been unfaithful you just discovered here. She is cheating on you. Here's jill savage recalling. Just such a moment. I was on my living room floor of home alone. Just bawling my eyes out begging god to tell me what to do and i heard one thing one thing i heard him say. I want you to love and we can hear the pain in anger uncertainty. We have hoped for you today. Because jill did grab onto god in walk faithfully with him and she and her husband mark are here today with us on focus on the family. I'm john fuller. Your host is focused president and author. Jim daily word of caution for our parents in the audience. If you have young kids. They really probably shouldn't be listening to this program. We'll be touching on some really tender topics. Ajan all i can say for those who are joining us today and didn't hear the program last time. Get it because that really sets the emotional credibility for what we're going to talk about today. And mark and jill were so open about and transparent about their circumstances back then. I think it's worth going back at the smartphone app. If you haven't already done that and you can listen to the program from last time Or you can go to the website and download it that way but it really was powerful and in fact we just didn't cover the content. We wanted to cover. So i've asked mark and jill to rejoin us today so we can talk about the help and the hope for your marriage especially if you're going through something or suspecting that your spouse may not be on with you right now and maybe in a relationship with someone else. It's far more common than we want to admit and again we want to give the hope that is found. In christ and jill has captured a lot of the lessons. That learned in a little booklet. Called your next steps. What to do when your spouse is unfaithful. We've copies of that here. Click the link in the episode notes or call eight hundred. The letter a. In the word family jilin mark. Welcome back to focus else. Thank you. I was so good to have you back in. I mean that And thank you for extending our time together on the broadcast. As i mentioned we spoke last time about that broken us. What was going on in your relationship For those just joining today. You're in and out of this affair. Seven eight times over the period of just over six months trying to figure out what to do. You separated your living in an apartment. You have five children and jill. You're just hanging by a thread. i can imagine a you express some of that. Last time you begin to develop hope not trust but you had hope that god could heal your marriage and it took mark a little to get there. That's kind of the background as to where we're at now and i do want to concentrate on those common barriers. That couples have to overcome that you overcame at to fix your marriage and move in a healthy direction in a christ center direction so How can a couple successfully avoid the blame game which is one of those barriers and we were into that a bit last time but each having a list in jail we can expand on this a little bit again. I'm so proud of women and again. This is a generalization. I know it's not everybody. Women had this incredible capacity to look at themselves. I mean as a man you know it gives me tears. Because you're so quick to say what have i done have fallen short. What's my problem and mark. You typified the man. I got a list on you and it's really your fault that i'm in this mess. I mean little boys you made me eat it right. You can win the told me to do it right. And i mean it's who were made up that way going back to adam. Does this woman. You gave me just a problem. God and so. I'm glad we can laugh about it. Now but i know people listening or maybe a net pitch of pain right and you guys can laugh today but you had to go through a valley a pit so jill. Let me come your way again. Let's frame that a little bit. What are these barriers. One obviously is the blame game. Speak to it. Yeah well you know of the things. That was so very helpful and i do write about it in your next steps is i was able to look at mark through is of compassion and that kept me. There was plenty of blame at times. Don't hear me wrong on that. But when i was able to see that he was acting out of his own hurt and his own confusion. That really helped me to resist blaming more than where i already was just naturally going Because i realized he was. He was personally struggling. You know this was identity challenge. This was him feeling lost from leaving ministry for twenty years and so that was really helpful for me was to see him through is of compassion and that kept the blame at least At a lower level. Get that and that's helpful. Some women are saying you're crazy. I mean seriously because we're operating out of our flesh. I would say in that moment. And they're justifying their own unchristianlike responses right. It's hard. I know we're going to get a lot of people will tell you I can remember one particular night. After mark left the toilet overflowed on the second floor of our home and the water came down onto the main level. In down into the basement I did a lot of blaming that night. I'm sure i would embrace you mark. He was gone okay. Trapped there turn left an. I was home with two teenage boys and i know how to fix plumbing and i was really angry and there was a lot of blame that went on that night. So without a doubt you know there was a fair share of Me throwing blame his way him throwing blame my way mark to jump in on that. I mean you're on the blame game. Well my reality was. I was led by my flesh and i didn't understand that then Totally get that now. But i was led by my flesh. I was following my flesh and what was powerful from. Jill is i saw a. It was not an easy transformation for her but it was an intentional decision on her part to love me well and to love me in a way that she had never done so and that was spirit led and the kind of leads to the mismatched emotions. I think in in limit set it up this way Once the affair confessed the guilty spouse begins to feel better. You know you've got it off your chest so to speak you. It's out in the open. That part of the hard road is done. And you're feeling lighter. If i can say that way but the victim the spouse that's been betrayed. They're just starting into that mess of. How do i figure this out. And what do i do. And where do i go. Did you. experience that dynamic in your relationship the messy part like you were feeling better and you're feeling like i don't know what i should do with you at this moment. Arrogance and confidence rose off the charts Yeah i would agree with that. Which was. I'd never really seen that side of you because i think the other dynamic that happened was you were passive passive passive passive passive intel. You said i'm done. And i'm out of here and then i saw this side him was. There was no more passivity. And i didn't even know what to do with that. Um which we see that in a lot of the couples that we coach and that we encourage that we help. Will you know in what we do. Now let me 'cause. I understand that described that though mark what why do men behave that way we cocoon we hide emotionally and we just let everything kinda go okay. That's fine and then the monster comes out the confident monster right. I think it does. I think that goes back to genesis that we win. A man doesn't know what to do. He does nothing. And that's not a good decision on his part. And so we coward and we hide and we think that we need to be silent and it's really important than a man find his voice and not wait until that blow up. It's a dynamic. I've seen in couples were. There is a strong woman. Jill you are a strong woman. Yes does that. Make it harder for a guy to express his. Yes absolutely rhetorical question absolutely and that was because you would you would try and she would shoot you down or shut you off. Absolutely i would try to voice my thoughts or my opinions and then finally you go Forget it and so that was a place where i had to focus on my own growth. I realized i had misused my strength. And i needed to learn how to leverage it in a way that honored my husband in a way that didn't minimize his voice and remember when we talked yesterday about that. We went to lunches together wrote well. I was beginning to change the way that i was using my voice at those lunches also undecly he would make a statement and instead of squashing that statement and telling him what i would think i would ask a question an ha ask further and so i was drawing him out. I was using reflective listening. So what i hear you saying is this. Did you not do that. Was that formulaic or was it coming. Naturally I had actually read a book that was Very powerful for me was called. God empowered wife and it was a book for strong women and how strong women can. The funny thing is the subtitle. I think is how strong women can help their husbands become godly leaders which is created me to help you to draw that strong woman in and want to read the book. Current issue dresses. That in the totally. So i'm reading it. And i'm applying and i'm going. I'm starting to use my strength in a different way and so week after week. I'm making changes. Which at first he goes. You're manipulating me. But i'm really. I'm realizing no. I have to change this again whether our marriage makes it or not. I have to change this. I have misused my strength and that is so good for people to here. And i think again today. We wanna concentrate on equipping the people that are kinda where you used to be in that context in mark yesterday. You mentioned kind of your mentality at the moment was let's just get over. Let's get this done with. Let's keep moving. Let's get the morse. Let's figure out what we're going to do at the kids now. It's almost like typical male problem solving. You know we've got to figure out who gets the kids win. But something pulled you back from that. I'd say it was the lord right but explain why couples who have gone through this and are willing at least to have hope maybe again is broken but for that guilty spouse to commit to a long term recovery and not just go into problem solving mode and to relieve the pain by going through a divorce. You know so often. The data shows that when a divorce occurs especially. I'd see this date. In light of men you know they then remarry and the very same problems crop up again. Because you're not dealing with the core issues you right wasn't your your first spouse And now you've got the same problems in your second marriage or your third marriage and those typically don't go well either Suspect to that long term commitment. That's really the question that transition that you made from. What just in this in the pain. I've got this other thing going. It's far better right now right right but you pull back and i give you kudos for that. You did pull back going to commit to a long term process. Obviously if i said i bailed eyeball to you. Jill deserves a lot of credit in this whole thing. Oh absolutely does she was faithful. She was saying that she stayed faithful to you. And so man to man. I mean that's part of it but You deserve credit for pulling back And a lot of men wouldn't do that. No they keep going For me the process of a long term commitment was more one foot in front of the other commitment one day at a time. One day at a time and My first huge decision was surrender. I had made such a mess and as a man were fixtures and i realized there was not one thing i could do to fix this which was a beautiful moment for me because it was the moment that god became so real that the only hope i had which was abundant was guide would fix this. That was his promise to me. That and then the picture. I had in fact on my phone. I have a picture of Of a road with the yellow line down the middle. That i would take the hand of god my dad and walk on that yellow line dad where we going. What do you want me to do. And part of my commitment to my family into joe. Was i met with every person who i knew i'd hurt. I ask forgiveness. And i worked to make it right with my family. being in ministry Hundreds of people. I spent the whole next year. Just really working to clean up the mess that i had made as god led me into that situation. That was that's powerful really is. Yeah and one thing i would add. You know Back to your question a little bit ago about The eclair is now out in the open. It's off his chest but the other spouse is now like really. You're just beginning to process totally. And i think that is something. That's not understood in a fair recovery. All the time and that is that he knew what was going on for in essence. It was a year Total because so much of it started even before the physical affair. I didn't and so what happens is now you have to go back. And you have to relive and you have to reframe it. So i'll give you a specific example. The summer that he started the emotional affair was my parents fiftieth wedding anniversary and they wanted to gather the entire family at a beautiful place in the wisconsin dells. So we're all there and were all you know enjoying this time. And he excuses himself every once in a while. I think that he is taking care of his construction business back home. But i later learned. He's having conversations with this person. And i learned that nine months later now i have to go back and i have to go. We'll wait wait a minute and i have to recognize. You mean. this is what was happening so that happens over and over again when you're recovering from infidelity and to mark's credit He stayed steady through that. Because that is a lot to have to wade through will. This is your turn. It is if i could say that feels dark. It's your turn to start. Yes your emotional response only steady and stable and not reactive. It does lead to the next question i had. Which are the questions that the offended spouse needs answers to. How had you determine where to go with that because that can be a bottomless pit. It can be a arming up of the offended spouse so they can you know wail back at the one who had the affair and you know again. We're always balancing our flesh lee response from our spiritual response. We're at war within ourselves. But how did you guys manage the questions. You're touching on that jill but when was enough enough well and i think i get asked that question a lot I think it depends on your personal wiring One of the things. I talked about in the last program is that i'm a thinker. I that means ideal and facts for data I can gather data and not get as emotional about it. If there's a woman who is a feeler she got to be careful about how much she asks or. Yeah because that's going to really that can there's is them in that that's the key point you've got to be wise enough to know we. You need some reconciliation on data. Yes you need some reconciliation but there may come a point where you need to feel. I know enough. I don't need to know more than i actually would say to myself. Do i really need to know this question. Like i would think about it and sometimes you ask questions from slightly different angles to to understand that. And that's where. I think some couples go wrong in rebuilding. Trust is the offending spouse will go when you gonna stop asking me. You've already asked me that question where you're on trial constantly settlers figure this out of court or we're going to move along. I mean that sounds horrible. I mean you were the offender right Well in my i think as a surrendered man. You don't mike. Commitment as a surrendered man was to answer every question and to stay steady and to learn to love jill through my answers and responses and not to get angry. Yeah i mean you guys are both growing in this. That's what's amazing spiritually. And isn't that the awesome gift of god. You're gonna leave this urge so much better off and where you used to be and your relationship with christ in your relationship with each other. That's the beauty of this. Portrait is not the offense that's ugly. It's horrible right. But god picks up the pieces in creates a masterpiece in your marriage. I mean that it's awesome ee. You speak to this idea of the gift of accountability salons move through that you guys. You know you're in a better place. What is the gift of accountability. Now well i think unhealthy view of accountability is that someone is there to police another person's life and that's incredibly unhealthy. The gift of accountability is that i would stay. I would push information to joel about where. I was going what i was doing. Not out of defensiveness but out of love That is big. that's huge. It was totally brain change for me. I had to make trips back to our home. Where both of our families lived. And where this person that i had the affair with lived and i would. I asked jill to go with me like by had to help my mom on the house. Would you go with me. And if she couldn't go then. I always had in my back pocket. Somebody who go with me and carl. He was my go-to guy and his friend. Good friend in for him. I did i did that. So that for my family security But also for myself that. I didn't want to have to answer questions about where i was. I wanted to create a safety for my family and for me and never had to ask him to do in another good sign of change. Yeah and that's good. Jill speak to that It was huge. Because i didn't. He opened his phone up. He said here's my phone eight. You have access to it and that was different. Yeah well yeah because it was locked down after especially after. I found the the first. We're locked down. Everything was locked down and he gave me a master key to his life and said i have no more secrets. Vat was very trust building. Now it takes time because to rebuild. Trust it's changed behavior over time and so it was a consistent opening and that made all the difference in the world joel You know we've got only a few minutes left. And i wanna come back to both of you on some really important aspects of this and that is forgiveness. I mean we've touched on it but we really got to hear from you particularly jail. Obviously the depth of that forgiveness. How do you find it. Where did you go and is it deep unreal or you trying to just live. You know what you're supposed to do. Here's what i learned. Jim about forgiveness. And i think it is something that is not as widely understood as it needs to be forgiveness isn't once and done i didn't just forgive the affair and then we moved on. I had to forgive dozens. Hundreds of things. I'll give you an example. I drove by a hotel that i learned that they had met at k. I drive by that hotel. And i am grief to beggar. Ya and i'm grieved on grieved at the deception. I'm grieved at the betrayal. And that day as i drive by there. I have to go part. I need to deal with this in my heart. And i have to forgive the deception and the betrayal as it relates to that hotel but the next day i drive by the hotel again and that day i am grieved at the financial mess that this made in our lives and so i have to forgive the financial mass and so i think a lot of times. We think it's just this one time thing it is you have to forgive layers and layers and layers and layers so win those things raise up. You gotta deal with them in your heart then and there and sometimes i would communicate that forgiveness to mark and sometimes i was just between me and god sure of course mark let me ask you to pray for those comes right here at the end. Give that word of the lord to use this program to use the story. God has given you and jill touch lives. Father i pray right now on. My heart is the couple that aren't even together. And maybe they're hearing this program and they're weeping and angry and confused father Reach into their mass and the hand of a loving father and just help lead them out of that. And lord pour out hope uses program to breathe life redemption direction. God you your grace. Your love is abundant. Your mercy is endless. Lord pour it out today in. Jesus name amen amen market jill again. Thank you for laying it out there. Yeah this is hard to do. And you're moving down the road. And the lord's giving you this message. Now you gotta keep coming back to the biggest trauma you've ever experienced talking about it so the thank you for doing it. Thank you for helping others. See the better way to go and jill. Thanks for capturing it in this little book your next steps. If you a copy get hold of us. We'll get it to you. If you can help support the ministry so we can touch. More lives do that. But we don't want a gift to be in the way. Just get a hold of us so we can get this booklet into your hands to help. Save your marriage. If you're at the end of your rope and you can say it from your heart that you do believe god can work commerical in your marriage. Give us a call. There's a place that we can begin to restore it together. Yeah and last time. We mentioned hope restored where we provide intensive counseling over several days to hurting couples. And a maybe there's been infidelity or so much conflict. You just can't handle it anymore or maybe you've just drifted apart learn how hope restored can transform your relationship and get in touch when you do. We'll also tell you about jill's book next steps. What to do when your spouse is unfaithful. Eight hundred a letter a in the word family. Eight hundred two three two six four five nine or stop by the episode notes and you'll find the links there and coming up next time deborah pa- gay offers some great encouragement to women in leadership. And so i challenge women who are already in the culture who are already selling. Don't let the culture dictates your values and your priorities. You can have a career you can have it all but i say all is what god wants on behalf of gym daily and the entire team. Thanks for joining us today. Four focus on the family. I'm john fuller inviting you back as we once more help you. And your family thrive in christ when a woman discovers her husband's struggle with prerogative. She needs a practical plan. 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EP132: Sorority Horror Stories

I Don't Get It

1:04:50 hr | 2 years ago

EP132: Sorority Horror Stories

"The. Hello, everybody. And welcome to the I don't get a podcast. How's it going out there? Somebody's Chipper, shipper Chipper. I think you're trying to. Date for your mellowness about exactly what I'm doing. Exactly what I'm doing. What you do too. I. All right. Let's do. I know I know. Okay. Now, how is your trip to London? It was terrible news throughout the entire time or anything else to elaborate on except for the fact that like the Spiderman castle zoo. Oh my. Fixers. Yeah. But I was I don't know. You know, moist so hard on myself, I felt sick, so I didn't really feel great. Therefore, I left the trip feeling like I could have done so much better. But I was six six due to something you ate. I was severely dehydrated the week before where I was like throwing up IV to my house and diarrhea. No, I wish you know that's the one thing I never got. Rafer diarrhea on, but I, I don't know. I just I think, what it is like, I never got on London time, I was extremely, like I'm not really necessary because you went from the cruise to LA. Yeah. And I think that's you know, it's like I'm napping during the damn trying to get an up in here and there, I'm not really hungry. When everyone else is eating so I'm not really eating. So I think that all of that was just like go. Fuck yourself. Nasr. Oh, yes. The but I have to, I don't get it brought up eating things for asking them. So you know how Jared like doesn't the passion for food, isn't there really sad. He's a robot. He like he denies free food. This might be. I know you tell how can you marry someone you can't go to Costco with? Oh, yeah. He would see sample sale the sample sale. Sudan, Myers families. That is a sample. Amazing, the Brand Food brands we love like cookies, and all samples sales by, like cookies and hot dogs for like half. Why does not exist? I'm sure there are it's colleague shoppers food warehouse in northern Virginia. The discount grocery stores. So we like he had the opportunity to go into one of those airline lounges and I go well was there. Of course. My first question was he got to go into a lounge, and I've never been in one of those never been no not want to be exclusive airline lounges, and I got so it was their like food in there. Did you get like unlimited drinks? And he's like. Yeah, there's food. There's like finger sandwiches, and cheese in crackers and meats. And there's a whole spread and I go you're going to tell me that you didn't touch it. Are you because? Yeah, I was just going to get on the plane. On the plane over having the charcoal arena loans. I don't understand like cereal. I always eat fruit loops. Then I just you phone front of you. I don't care. What's waiting few on the plane tastes so much better, when it's free also airplane food is nasty? I mean he okay well I was gonna say that he had first class, but he. Private this league changes the whole story, of course if I'm eating first class, I'm not gonna eat the fruit loops in the lounge. Oh, really? Yeah. It's all I shove it. I mean, to it's like, oh, a free buffet. And then an hour later, I'm gonna get my lasagna on the plane, I'm going to eat at home one day when we do have a live podcast that ever happens because we've been prolonging long we should just we should not even record we should just be silent and do a weird Shiloh buff thing where we just all three and see who can eat the longest. What do you mean? Is that like from, like, hold the movie? No. 'cause, you know, Shiloh of weird we thought we saw him at the trading post today stop. Yes. The guy at the lemonade stand was this show over there. He is one where I would want percent starstruck. My. He is a star in a weird even though whereas your career gone. John. John beside. He's been reading disturb Lia weird cool. Art Irby ah. You guys Jake Jilin hall. That others could have rambled today. Oh, well matter, I met Andrew Garfield my starstruck moment. Okay. So there is I don't get talking. I know when I saw him I was like, I didn't allow myself the have the hesitation point is just like I saw him. I I was like it registered. My head and that I did art my legs heard walking before my head did, I'm so proud so, yeah, maybe found confidence that was great before we move on. Because just comes out that we think everyone should actually go see spy ran far from home. I saw twice and it's so puck and good. This sexual in this is he hot, J John holts hotter, this, he's always hot. But the thing is, I can't really disclose a lot about his character right now because in the comics characters villain, but going into this movie you don't really know what what's his name in Seville name. Okay. So I told I actually asked him this exact question the name of his character is mysterious. And I said, how seamless is given all your past roles that you've now finally been in a superhero movie, and your character's name mysterious like that's so perfect in my so Mr. are you kidding me? After like velvet bub saw, like zodiac literally night. Crawler Crawley's goodbye. Talked about bubble boy, you know. Yeah. That was I I'm sorry, what is that other Johanna where he was a -tective? And it was so good night. Crawler. No. Well, yes about like the dead people on the ground. The one with, with Hugh Jackman. Well, God on. I will not move on with this podcast to figure this out he Jackman. It's very simple. It's so simple. It has nothing movie. It's like it's like one word one word, I like no this. 'cause I've read a jillion times I literally carried here ago here. It's coming. It's coming. It's come in the movies called prisoners prisoner. Oh, okay. So just. I just think of prisoners and think about being dumb to the movie theater weight is your member. You got done. No. My big had told Lawrence big that like there is he bailed on me that night. And he told Lauren's big, y remember he was like, oh, yeah, I bailed on her. And then he like knew more, but didn't wanna tell you because he didn't want her. My feelings or something good times. Remember, literally, right, novel titled pop culture, moments that are relevant to my personal life. So moving on prisoners. Oh, yes. This was the one where and. And I was the first time I felt feeling. Definitely. I can't watch that. Fuck in space movie with Sandra Bullock. Oh, yeah. Oh, we both have really gravity Lauren, and I were both in the theatre Louis we were getting that Larne and I used to do this is why we relate. So we just rambling, we have a structure, we have callers. Okay. Finish this one statement Lauren, I guess, used to be like, well, if we're not gonna sit around in shit our pants around the apartment should our pants about one. He's gonna text us or him text me him text her. Let's just go to a movie, and then we go to a movie to get out of the house. But then we'd just be like so tense the entire time and worrisome. No, I feel like the movie takes your mind off. You know, sometimes it doesn't sometimes it ruins movies for you. Got see Annabel's we get or doing it. All right. It's going to be scared. Your child play just for the fun. It'd be great Annabel Chretien was incredible. I know creation. Her Puckett's is about on this episode of horror stories. We have sorority whole story is. Really good atom record that. So we were thinking there must be some crazy shit that goes down sorties whether it's like during pledging or boy, drama, girl, drama, roommate drama. So we've thought that we would ask you guys to send us in some stories, and we have three callers in we're going to start with our first way before you go in. I want to address someone commented saying, well you guys weren't in Greek life, and you can't judge in both Las. I just wanna prefaces I saying, I was in a fucking sorority, and we're not shitting on. I think everyone should rush. It was the best for years of my life, even though the crazy shit ever went down. But just because Ashley Lauren or GDI's that we're got damn independent your fucking. They call that GD everywhere anyone who wasn't a Greek owes like Chidi. Oh, that's called Penn State. With with more anyways ver very pro sorority or poor sorority. I mean, I'm part of a sorority called the bachelor world. So there you go. I didn't. That's. Yeah, that's a frat. All right. So we're going to give it. I wanna call and she has a couple little things to mention about her. These better be good Lawrence. There always are. 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And I think it's smart that this person or anyone on this podcast remains anonymous because we don't want anyone to get their pins. Pole house pin. So opin is something that you require that basically represents that you have been inducted into a sorority, and you are officially sister of said chapter. Okay. Right. Yeah. I was like he's. No, I'm no longer a member actually left after my first semester. Oh well this because. Yeah. So tell us your story shirt. So I went to a big state school in the southeast. And when I first started rushing, I really wanted this one sorority, and I only really focused on that sorority, and then I found out that a member of the board or the president. Her mother had beef with my mom and her friends when they were at college together and the eighties. Yo this is some big little lies shit. I was gonna say this reminds the recent horror movie. What is that hormonally letter? It was it was Spencer with Jones. Yeah. I guess community small my hometown, and my friend, my mom's friend wrote the letter recommendations, they knew the name, so I kind of had recalibrate and ended up at s-, not really my next choice, but I feel like at a fit the person I was trying to be. Sarah is very blonde. It wasn't especially diverse is mostly just blonde. Upper middle class girls on very preppy and the first big glaring thing after all of the pretense of all my God. Here's your big and welcome. We love you so much faded, we ate the meals at the house. And I started to notice that at all the meals, the girls, I sat with, with get like hamburgers or spaghetti and meatballs. And I would get the vegetarian options. And so I thought it was mistake. So I went to one of the girls of the board who's in charge of coordinating that stuff and told her 'cause I thought is actually paying more because vegetarian option was more. And she said, no, no word we're doing favor. We're just going to help you out a little bit. So the way it was set up everything was cooked in house and you'd like swipe your card and they give you a play. So I thought it was mistake, and I. Always little curvier than the other girls might pledge class is just the way I'm built. I didn't think it was a problem. But there's kind of the insinuation, and it was explicitly said, like, oh, you know, these, these meals are little, like less calorie, dense, you know, it's a fuck. And I was eighteen and stupid. And I was like, oh, well, maybe they are trying to help me and I didn't fight it. But eventually I kind of started to rebel a little bit. I wanted to my hair in when I talked to my big she said, well, you know, you can't really go with that color. You can go to any of these salons and the girls there will will give you options. The can choose from. I'm not gonna lives east of your here going into this podcast. I was like, there's no way anyone's in share story that I'm gonna think is gonna blow me out of the water just because of this shit that I experienced this fucking blow. Shock. Is it shocking? This is shocking. That's crazy. People die, their hair and lose weight. The meal. Plan is insane. I thought that like the hair-color thing is actually something that you guys would say, no, I think, in my I mean I don't wanna speak to my story too much either, but I could see people during recruitment, you know, like get your nails done or look very polish. So that's probably the fullest extent I've ever experienced on crazy. To say tell you. Tell you, I think you'll understand pink. Kazmi feminine and pretty. Yeah. I mean I did it eventually. And it looked really good. So it's still the meal. Plan is yeah. Yeah, that sucks. Eighteen year old me was, I feel so bad for her now. You you'll version of yourself and you see girls who look like they're so happy in perfect. And you think I can do that. If I act. Right. So I'm so happy got out of there. So what happened? So a lot of it was affordability. We weren't allowed to repeat outfits with, like every month. So I had to keep constantly buy new clothes for vents, and then do. Which kind of got me up into two to fifty lake two thousand five hundred a semester. Dan, five hundred a semester. Okay. Yeah Jews and with new clothes and like paying in for parties and stuff like that. All your your vegetarian food included. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Did you live in the house? No, I was I was to freshman for that. Okay. You mentioned in your own so's argue can you mentioned in your Email that there were other sororities that would do like the jiggle tests on the drier. Yes. So I have only heard this is like a very strong rumor that a certain house, I put in the Email, which is like the prettiest prettiest like thin is the thinnest. They would circle areas jiggled if you sat on a washing machine in those a rumor my school, too. So I kind of feel like been legend. I mean I can only hope and pray, but let's be real guys love jiggle. Yes. Live for the rumor urban legend goes during right? Like you would sit girls down on a drier and whatever the jiggle they would circle the permanent markers. I mean, that's causing gross. I mean that's. Yeah. And also legal and terrible absolute. So how'd you end up believing the money that in also I got junk over winter break in Pierce, my nose and my big was kinda like, yeah, that's not really what we're looking for liquids feeling to take it out. And I was like, no. And it would have been fine. But I think my tone and their tone. It just didn't mesh and it got kind of tag mystic. And I kind of realized that wasn't who has been the Anais should save the money in run, what happened with your mom's though, was the end of. With my mom's mom's like the mom feud. Oh, yeah. So I think my mom's still someone's boyfriend. That affect you rushing or being in the sorority. Yes. So my community my religious communities really tight. Everyone knows each other. And my mom's best friend wrote my letter recommendation for that swertz, and she was in that sorority at another school. And then I guess they were probably background checking all the letters to make sure that they are actual members and it must have just like been pulled a mutual friends. And she was like, oh, mom, you know, why are you friends with this person, do you know her and have gotten brought up? At least. That's what I've heard second second hand. Okay. Do you think that your treatment in the sorority was based on your mom still boyfriend? Oh, that was the story that wouldn't let me. Pam sorry. Misunderstanding, like actually, get in a sorority because of someone else's mom, which I feel is in beneath any of it is because it's just it is so low sisterhood is so we wouldn't let a what's it called again when, like your mom? No, no, no. There's. Legacy. Thank you. Yeah. Legacies have actually like that's a whole other thing. Like if you're a legacy, if your mom was in that chapter or that chapter somewhere else normally, you get in it's like it's been set or rumor that it's easier to get in or it's kind of like a shoe in, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, some people are just GDI's as I've. This world is more of a Judy I'd than Lawrence. Judy IT right there with you. You go to a different sorority. Are you were Judy for the rest of your life? Just a GD. I it was it was hard because. I love it too. Turn it up for these words into preppy for the academic fraternities. So I just kinda. I do for you got that situation. Who cares what makes? Down. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. This has been great, guys casting, you, we love you. This is the first time that the word big in this podcast. Over that, like when you join sorority and older sister becomes your big sister, and they are your big, and they kind of, like, mentor you and are kind of like your go-to for any issues like in life in college in the sorority in general. I think that's very comforting. And nice, people end up being like really best friends say, what happens branch life. And then some people kind of lose touch, and it's just like all right. Well, yeah, you were my big in college, and that was it? Okay. So that's a whole thing, too, because bigs kind of lake when it's time to pick a big. Yeah. Yeah. Like you pick one. But sometimes like let's say you, and Lauren wanna be my big. Yeah. Like you would be coming to me, and be like, really feel like I'd be good big to you. Court it. I remember that was really hard decision for me. Actually, I remember crying 'cause I couldn't pick between these two girls. That's really sad. Earl so crazy. But like you're not you're not like wording, you're not even tied to them, like physically. It's like cares. Well, it's like it's I can see it taking personal. Yeah. Yeah. Are you take things too? Personally me to be in authority. Maybe I don't know. Ashley, no actually could have been in a sorority. The thing that people, I think the thing, the biggest misconception. It's worries. People look at what they see in movies and on TV and they assume that every sorority at every school's like that. And every college is different in every sorority is different. So it's such a unique specific case by case experience. I used to always be like I could never live in a house of girls. I wouldn't want to like have that, that much drama. And like fighting guys and just like I don't know that I need to ever be around us social that that much. And like so consistently. And then when I was on the bachelor, the bachelor house. I was like, wait, is this severity is that sucks? Community exactly what it is, who was remind me of the girl's name that was a Jakpa Velka Vienna Vienna. I guess the NO was in this wordy house next to mine of couple. Yes, a couple years older, but she was a part of the sorority next to my house, and that's the reason why I got into the bachelor because I started washing like how far is this girl going to go are tire? College was like in on it, and it was she made it to the end, and the drama, it was all anyone would talk about it. So anyway, trying let me finish my. It was like always. Stop interrupting me. Meena. Nina her. Okay. We have our next caller. I'm going to say anonymous until we give her call and find out what she wants from us, okay? Assume that their own automobiles. Okay. This this my favorite one, by the way. One second. Or we have Lauren on the line Lauren, yours. It sounds so nut, so please, tell us your story. Yeah. Absolutely. We'll thank you guys so much for having me. And I would like hate myself by pump your tires for a second pump like it's not to say, like so much during this podcast like I've been with you is since the beginning, and this podcast, just like, really made me a podcast person. And I just love you guys aren't like so PC in that you just kind of say, how you really feel like I was ghosted from a long term relationship in so Ghostbusters. Like super help me a long term relationship. Why didn't with your ghost? Oh my gosh. Yeah. No. I totally do it. But I don't think that he would like down to like, call him up. Down for you. If you want. I'm kidding. Thank you so much. I sang it means a lot. Of course, I also have to just tell Ashley that. I'm so excited, and like living for your wedding that, like people aren't happy for you is just insane. Because like we've been all waiting for this for years. And I just really can't wait to fall long. So we're so cute. Thank you so much. I'm really starting to get excited now because we've gotten our SEP's in. And now, I like know that the most important people are going to be there. I just think that is really stressful. When you're planning a party, and I don't even know like who's going to attend. And now I feel like I could be at peace, because like the group of people that I really need they're going to be there. Those beautiful thing to say, yeah, I know when I like texted everyone a couple of days ago, because we had, this is a whole podcast. We could do a whole podcast. I'm like, what wedding planning was that I didn't expect that we should do that? What are but anyway, it's your law? Tell your story. And thank you just show. Comedy. Absolutely. So I went to like a really big school where Greek life was a major part of the experience, and like the first two years were awesome. I was really socially focused. You know, I went to the bars lot. I like the whole big little thing I moved into the house in like did all that. Will you tell us where you went in what you were international? No, I probably shouldn't. I was just making sure no. But I did go to a big school, like it's kind of, I guess, known for Greek life. If that helps. And so I did recruitment the first year which is basically like a horror story in itself. But I made a lot of good friends who are still like my best friend. So this day and a couple of listening. So hey to those friends things getting them to lose it. Hello fellows. Former soon. Yes. And so after myself or year like my focus just really changed, like I was interested in like focusing on working getting internships, and really trying to, like hustle. So I took an unpaid internship, and was working like a server on the side. And my sorority does recruitment before school starts, so that would have interfered with my internship. And then if you skip recruitment with Albany, excuse, you literally find thousand dollars. And so I was like getting my asks us there is no way and basically the sorority mandated that the only excuses that were like, I guess allowed that year where if you had an internship, that had to do with your major, you had to provide proof that you had attempted to, like request off for, like three weeks and then proof that your boss. Though they were also requiring that some girls come into the house like after their internship to help with songs arts and crafts, like, really like anything else it was kind of ridiculous. You guys. You guys all seem fat Jewish is me, right? When he's convinced finding they opened the doors. And they're like. Shit. Oh, semi terrifying. Tight. Oh, no. For sure. But I was like sure shit about to like the unprofessional and asked my boss off for like three weeks. So my summer internship. So I definitely like faked the proof, and like went along my Mary way. So fast forward to recruitment, and I was working at the restaurant on a day, that I wasn't at my internship, and these three girls from my pledge class came in and. Like I'm one of their workweek breaks. I sat them at their table and set alot, and they definitely gave me like the bitches like, hey, ever, it was so rude, which I thought was weird, because, like, I knew them, but they definitely knew me, but I just kind of let it go. And what about my day until a few days later, my boss from the restaurant like call into the office? They had filled out like one of those survey receives like trashing me. No. Took a turn already in the sorority, and these are great. Third year in the sorority. And I, I also to just add for people that were never necessarily your pledge classes, the class that you go into the sorority with the girls, it's kind of, like you know, if you're great. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And we had, like definitely a larger I went to a bigger school. So it was like a larger pledge class but like these girls definitely like knew who I was and I had like spoken to them like many times. And so my boss called me into the office and was like, so what's the deal with this like survey, and I was like, so embarrassed because I had to explain like all the rules like sorority world, share that. Like. Like, I don't know that I was like there's recruitment going on, and that's why they were mad because I wasn't there and like I forgot about that whole part of the story until I wrote that Email because I like second hand embarrassment like four myself. Oh, it was so bad. So did he understand here? She understand. Yeah. They were like whatever they couldn't, they couldn't care less. And so then after that they also turn me into standards which were those who aren't in a sorority. It's basically. I think I described it as like the judge Judy or like where you go, if you get in trouble, or like drink too much at a party, they like wrote a letter saying that I was in Barrasso in that they couldn't believe I was like working during the special time and like. Mr. king this special ties it was so bad. And then like the standards chairs one of my closest friends and the chapter. And she, like, obviously told me the whole thing, and I never got in trouble with the sorority because I had been excused. But I think that made these girls like a little bit more upset with me. And so they continue to talk about me to the rest of the chapter, like word got around to me, and I was finally, like how the suck my supposed to pay like thousands of dollars. If I don't work and like a lot of the talk they were saying was like, do you know, her family doesn't care enough about her to pay for the sorority, which is such bullshit? Good. It was so bad. And then I will say to the I was really lucky. And my parents were willing and able to pay for the caught my college my sorority but like it really wasn't there place to say that. Sorority. I like took out loans pay people, my whole college free. Megan. But yeah, so basically they like trashy only because I had a job and like my sorority definitely had the reputation for being involved in like volunteering studying abroad was like really praised. But I guess almost no one, I knew like had a part time job for the most part. So he didn't like the image that you were preparing my being a waitress. Yeah. Basically, I think so. And then it was kind of like safe to say that, like after that. And there was another thing that happened. I like a bunch of spring break money like stolen out of my wallet and I had to get out of the sorority like I can do it anymore, chooses. So you've got out of the sorority. Yeah. So my senior year, I decided to drop because I like really had only joined to make friends I hadn't made a really tight group of friends, and I knew that they be my friends, whether I was in the sorority or not, which definitely true, that's so sad. You made it to senior year and then dropped like Cousy. Is it frowned upon to drop? Yeah. Totally like I. Even the other day, like I saw like some people in public like they're kind of friendly, but you can just kind of tell, you know, when someone's like, oh, awkward, you know, but I mean I really just joined to make friends like people in have like the Greek experience, which I still feel it got. So it was fine. Right now. I had a question for you. Yeah. Because I know you are in a sorority in like you're such a hustler and everything. Like, how did you manage that? What your sorority do people like if you shit for it? We'll what I was just telling Ashley, and Lauren even before he started recording that the sad thing that's already is, it's such a case by case you know what I mean? Like so specific to where you rush. And what's Aurora, you're in and I had such an amazing experience that it makes me sad. When people didn't people were like so understanding that I like paid for a lot of girls in my sorority actually took out loans to be in. That's wordy. So that was like you know what I mean? That was never thing for me and you had internships and stuff. I was always I was oh, I always like to be involved, but I chose my senior year to be less involved. So that I because I was like, well, I'm gonna graduate. Like I really need all in my internships. So that's kind of what happened in my situation. You're like little the local news. Yeah. I did like an internship, every semester, my last year. Well, it sounds like you just got a really shitty sorority over there. Yes. And no part of it was so fun. But I'm just like I got out when I needed to get out and it was like all fine. But when I saw your Email, I was like, oh, like on the pot Facebook group. I was like, oh my gosh, I have a story for you. Yeah. That's crazy. Call. I do want to note though, because, you know how you said you have friends and your sorority. So it's like when people rushed they get soom, you know, that you're going to be best friends with all fifty or seventy people. You're not realistic. It's bachelor actually, you know what I mean. It's like you have your couple friends and that's your experience. It's not like your best friends with everyone. There could be someone that you're even like I would never be actual friends with that person. So it was like three hundred people, there's bound to be people that you, like, like, and don't like, and I definitely had, like my group of people, but I will say that, like my friend group was definitely not like the main group and the sorority and there's a ton of sororities on my campus. And so, I think a lot of people could have been like three or four different sororities. That makes sense to like it wasn't like, oh, she's so this. Like, that's totally where they belong lying. It's totally like an eclectic group of people right to have you on the phone. I would I was younger. I never wanted to be in a sorority because I was always so scared of the rushing was called the, the raising hazing hazing. Yeah. Because like whenever I was teeing movie or resorted to adhere about hazing and. Is it like still a thing? Do you guys know like I again very specific to like where you are? I mean I can't speak for the south. It's so weird. I went to school in Florida and Florida. But I feel like there are probably, of course about it in the news all the time. But. UCF the year, I joined, there was a fraternity that got kicked off campus because someone was Hayes in like something really bad happening. Crazy. Think you remember that? Movie, Sydney, white MandA buying. I think it was on live for that. I think it was shot in that house, which is like no longer there. Oh, thank. I quote me on that. I gotta look, though I remember being younger and hearing that the girls had parade around good in the house, and I was like. Yep. Never going to show my naked body girls that was. No. I mean like I definitely think sorry. Definitely I think that's forties. And frats are very different too, like they have, like a lot of different roles. And I've definitely heard of that happening was like frats, but definitely like my sororities during, and they took the roles very seriously at, like, no hazing we can't ask anyone to do anything, and like they made such a big deal about not hazing in. So I was like, super glad because I really only rushed because I wanted to make friends and it was like a big deal at my school. Whereas if I would've went to a different school, I'm not sure that I would've rushed. And so I was also like super but no really lucky that I didn't have any hazing at all. That's good. Good. I mean we shouldn't expect. No. I did expect it tries. That's what I really want people that aren't in stories and returning to really take home from this podcast is it's not. Yes. There are some crazy places that are like the movies that will probably here on this podcast. But the majority are not like the movies, you know. I know they're totally not always felt like rushing was basically just another word of raising. Over job interviews. Oh, yeah, rushing is the process of like applying in to be in a sorority was explaining to me swinging us before about, like how you pick your short and how they pick you. And that was very interesting. Yeah like recruitment week. How is it for you? Lauren like because at my school you would go to a different you would go to every sorority house for a week or the week was, basically, like a three day or four day week. And then on the last day it was bid day. Yeah, it was some more for me. I didn't know anything about Greek place. And so, I feel like an application and I never even thought that anyone would like look at it. But so I guess the house is like they kind of look at you. They like Terry up with someone to talk to. And so I went around two houses, I guess for like a week. And like I went to every house and talk to the girls and they basically like narrow it down. So you have less and less houses everyday until, like on the last three houses that I went to, and Ben like on preference them, and they. Reference in bed like panel, which is like the governing body like matches you kind of. So it's kind of. Han Hellenic is the governing body of all the houses on campus. They pair you because they know who, who you like, like I in my school, I feel like the stories, retrieves make lists. And then you make a list, and it's kind of that's how it goes a little bit of. -cation like you generally put down number one, I want this house, and the number two rank, it's like a ring system. Oh, but I didn't know that, like the houses like a full beforehand to, like, they like, extensively creep on you, like they know your GTA. They know what your social media looks like like, so they have all this other information to that. Like I didn't know that they had like going into recruitment. And so I would take it like so personally, when houses didn't want me because I'd be like, oh my God. I have like such a great conversation with girl like it could be about so much more that I don't even know if we didn't like dress. You are. So by thank God, I rush before Instagram with things. Girls. Must be torn apart with think about it now. It's like if someone's rushing totally are gonna look like she's friends with, so who's tagged in this photo, Oman, God's nightmare. Anyway. Lauren. Thank you guys so much before you go. Because you're so great. I wanna keep you on for one more question. You know how there's like the Jewish fraternity, and then they'll be like the blond bubbly fraternity like is it? It will they really reject like a Jewish brunette blonde global about blowing. The Elwood's sorority. I mean, like I think, yes, I mean, like I think that, you know, some schools are different than others. Like I would say that my school I went to like the sororities who baked like necessarily have, like all. But they kind of do at the same time like the sorority, I was in was definitely known for being kind of a click, and then there was definitely like a house that was like everyone in that house was like valedictorian and going to medical school. There was like another house where it was like they were the party house, but it's definitely more of a vibe, and I would say that there's probably like, acceptance to each role for each house. All right. Thank you. Good answer. Thank you. Much aren't it went through. It's okay, it's like it's funny now it's like being removed from it. It's like kind of something. I'm like, oh, yeah. Remember when that happened, but like back in the day, I was like this is so almost everyone, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay. Thank you. By, well, we had a caller lined up, but she is not answering. So I'm gonna go ahead and read another story. And this one, I thought was pretty interesting. I'm going to rent because she didn't say otherwise. So she goes, so there was a day when we weren't allowed to speak in on that day, a sister told me, she was going to take a guy that I had been hook up hooking up with before I started pledging, this is the girl dot calling knows is another girl. Okay. Good. So it was like we should be calling this girl, and then imprint we weren't allowed to be with any guards during our pledge period. So she knew that I still liked him but just couldn't be with him. She also demanded that I drive them, and then pick them up as well in her car. So I couldn't even answer her because she was not speak. Remember? So I couldn't even speak, not that I would have anyway, in fear that she would Hayes, the crap out of me so fast forward to the night at the party, I picked the two of them up. She proceeds start kissing him in the backseat he was hammered in all the wild kept looking at me in the rear view mirror with a smirk on her face the whole time I was driving. I kept thinking I could drive these bitches car off the bridge. But I held together being my sorority time. Like your life is in her head. Yeah, I know. This do that. She was all up with in the back seat smiley on her like creepy. Creepy. There's another girl that sending a very long Email with, like multiples. Hillary's just small anecdotes. I'll just share them. So you guys know about house moms Ray. Yeah. They're the weirdest things every what they are. Yeah. So every sorority has a house, mom, and normally, they're probably like an elderly woman who isn't doing much chooses to live in the house in handles, you know, like all the gist of the house, like hiring the chef and, like rent, and making sure that the cables paid for and that basically all the rules of the house aren't like running amok, and like burning down there, usually elderly. Well in my case, they were, I guess, they don't they definitely don't have to be every sortie mice go. I feel elderly fifty. No. Well, what are you guys consider fast? Sixty five six sixty thinks. I needed the senior discount movie theater. I'm ali. Senior citizen and my mom, so happy about it. Small stopping so loud about issues like I love my senior. Movies. But y'all. That's the phone. Okay with your house, sixty five. Oh. Okay. You guys were Tim, because you're so smart. So my house. Mom, her name was mom Linda shutout to her shoes. One of my best friends, but this girl writes, in my house, mom was evil like would write these really random aggressive toast, in our Facebook group, with threaten a have kicked out for things like forgetting to take our clothes out of the dryer would lie and gossip about the girls in the house to, to the out of house, girls and other sorority house mom. So one time I roommate threw up and drunkenly vacuumed her vomit and peed herself and the house. Mom told everyone, and I mean everyone about it. This is after my roommate approach her with the truth offered a binding vacuum. As for help, my roommate is my best friend who was going through who's going through it at the time. Her mama super sick her. Dad was living in poverty shed, no money, work, two jobs, severe dental problems, no health insurance and girls and other sororities knew all about it because the long. Then she writes our chef which is also hilarious, because I was like such good friends with our chefs are chef got into a fight after we had the soccer team over for formal dinner, which he agreed to the fight started with him, throwing dirty pans at my big and ended with him threatening to burn our house fun Alaria. We had to have a police patrol, our house at night, and we had to change all of our locks. My God would like hitting. Stories, super crazy and generally for my life. Okay. I'm sorry. I laughed at that. It's crazy. Okay says hold on just a couple more. One more. The president was dating the recruitment chair. So does that mean the two girls? And they were roommates. So I'm sure you can imagine. What was going on there? Okay. Yeah. I wasn't sure shoes or freighter fraternity another girl would have sex in the common room at, like eight AM were awake and eating breakfast. And another one would seeker boy for now every day at around six am I only found out, because I was painting my cooler in the back staircase, and they ran right into love it she was winning or one pour me just paying a cooler. Sounds like a cooler funny sticker. She said, I specifically say despite the awful experience. I would never give it up anything. I really did me all of my closest friends there, and I wouldn't trade trade. The good times, I've had with them to avoid the bad times have more stories. These people are crazy love the podcasts. So let's go back to house moms, because the only house mama ever met or saw was Lizzy. You know, she was living in. I think it's sad. Is that bad? I don't because imagine no. You don't have kids or you never got married, then you're surrounded by, like four years. Taking care of these knife. Yeah, you're taking care of them and they love you hopefully, best case scenario and like your friends with them like I would always sit. And I would watch the news was such a loser. It just reminds me I think it would be like a constant reminder that I was like old, the, the old made like the old maid of. Yeah. I understand what live dorm, basically. That's what makes me mansions. Ashley, I'm gonna what you're saying. It's a dorm, they live in, like, really nice. And they like eat for free. And they get paid. Yeah. They get paid. They could paid. All they have to do live their life. And then every now and then check and make sure like I think I would be a house mom, you know, you don't have like the house among aren't even allowed in the chapter meetings chapter was every Sunday big meat, but they are aren't they already member. They're not. Necessarily, not was somebody who was once in the sorority that could be the case. But sometimes house moms are of a different sorority. So they, they aren't even allowed in meetings, which to me means, even less responsibility. Yeah. Take care of the house kind of. Yeah. I mean there's way more to it. But if you're like thirty and you're like oh, you know, these girls can relate to me. I could be like an older mentor. That would make a little bit more sense to me. I feel opposite. I feel like if you're older, it's like the peop- it's like the old guys. I see bagging groceries at Publix. When I go, I'm like, so happy for them. For them. They're so happy. They're doing something like this. Yeah. Going that they love it. The grove that does the move at the movie theater open pray that he's retired and doesn't need that money. That's what I think. When I see what you think you think of more their financial situation. Yeah. Of course, everyone needs money. I mean, we could do a whole senior citizen podcast. But to me, I've always found odd about when I was little I went to Dominican Republic every year. So, like always compared, you know this country Dominican Republic, and I feel like you guys don't do this at first of all Bubby looks incredible. She's ninety six and you guys love your grandma. But I always done it. We're that an American culture. I feel like people forget about their grandparents, and like throw them in like a home and like in my culture, they're like, the dawn on the kings, and queens of the family will usually put him in. I'd like to hope that people just put them in homes, when they are getting a little league Alzheimer's and yeah, I guess what I mean is like when I see them doing stuff. I'm like, oh, I feel like that makes them feel better. It makes them feel valued as I shouldn't be like, oh, they shouldn't even be working just be sitting in a rocking chair mean ROY. Grandpa, definitely worked at the grocery store because he's going to sit wanted wanted to work and like interactive people, which I think is great, too. I guess I always think that like I'm sad if they have to continue working through their retirement years, I totally can, we do an elderly podcast and have them like insp-, invoke, wisdom on that would be cute. Here, she would be so confused as to what was happening. She just talk wouldn't notice. No, no. We want to tell her. Not talking to this story. Anyways. Okay. Well, clearly, I have to say I feel like I've seen and heard of a lot crazier stories than what we heard. Some people are scared. It's his chair. I was just gonna say, I think what we've learned with the tempting to put this podcast together, which is still great. I think hopefully answered some questions if you guys weren't if you didn't go Greek. But I think what I'm learning is like, yeah, it is hard to, like, really open up share stories because you don't you don't wanna get in trouble. Okay. Okay. Well, guys instance, you know, one of our callers cancelled we have ten more minutes to talk about other random things. So we're going to do that, if you don't mind. Oh, I don't get iced coffee in the morning. What I don't. -freshing. Me more guys outside it is officially summer. How could you even order hot coffee on a daily owner Huck, because we sit on the couch and dry in the morning. I would never order a ice coffee for the morning, I need something warm jersey. Same way, Jared Dez is coffee and afternoon hog off in the morning. Always that's funny is coffee afternoon. Anyway. But it depends like the mood. I'm in and where I'm at on whether or not get hotter is actually, that's one of the hardest things I decided. Mel jarrow to wear on is it's gonna make me poop, which is make me more hot. Always makes you go. More songwriting, some what depends like airplane hawk coffee, does make poop airplane. Apparently, you're not supposed to drink airplane coffee, because they use like really dirty water to make it. They don't clean anything do. Yeah. L David, I feel like I, I recently noticed this myself. Is coffee. Drives me in the morning. It's like a wake up because it goes like through that URL. Like three you and you kinda wake up just by the coldness, but it makes coffee in the middle of the day, makes him really bloated and actually makes me feel yucky. I just don't like coffee mixing blood are what it. Yeah. But, you know, my stomach sucks. I've been drinking celery slightly. I know I was going to ask you about that. Some very proud of you salaries is been said to cure, literally every anew apple every day. But, you know, me, I've been buying it a creation for five dollars. You can do that. Like I like I how much is your juice maker? Doll. Make camera truth with a two. Any, I've been making the kale and green. I know I think it's an worthy investment. I think it really is. It's ninety one hundred seventy on my registry, rise, the amount of money produce costs in generate is very dumb as well. But that's why they charge so much when you go to earth barring get, but you're not making like the entire what is sixteen ounce bottle that I'm going you're supposed to I make like maybe half the water. Yeah. Because how many sellers is an actual celery bundle to make an entire sixteen ounces, whose energy who's a time and energy for that. It's a lot of time to because when I wake up having on MD stomach, when you wake up and when I wake up, then I have to go to the juicer. I've been doing it to buy been buying it because apparently, it's really good for digestion guy. It's great. If you have every right away. By the way, I don't think you're that boring, but I. Him for her psoriasis. It helps people I said, it help people with eggs, Emma acne. Actually, you know what I was just reading on guy should follow medical medium on Instagram that sellers, also helps people migraines which my migraines and was like pro can you get the same stuff from eating no celery building? So like the crunchy seller. Same shit. Why not? I don't know. You should definitely look that up. Okay. How time? Say about well, actually, the juicing takes away the fiber, which is why I prefer to Jews than eat my vegetables, which, yes, I know it's very important fiber missing out on. But I digest it so much better, I get super bloated from produce. Normally but when I jus I don't get what at all Tristan you can save money on produce by getting imperfect produce shipped you. Yeah. So what are those companies because I've watched a Jillian documentary. I'd like to start buying maybe dented tomatoes. Yes. Looks weird, but it's using health big and it's good for the environment. United fruit company is a imperfect produce many different types of imperfect produce online, you can find place by sometimes I feel sad for like, you know, those. I. Oh, I like I'm a part of the problem I pick him up. And I'm like, I'm not going to buy this one. This was not perfect. And I put it down. And sits there, my leave. I'm like, and dawn. We talk about the little toaster ever. What brave little I love the talk on the phone. The blinky Lauren almost bottle and for the other day at habitat for humanity which is our new thrifty furniture store, and humanities charity. No, it's in LA. They have habitat for humanity. Thrift stores. Is this a little riot out told me about it dining room table for forty dollars in stunning wacky like that's where I got the armoire, and it was only there for day, no wonder why was the one I get it. I come to life. What was her name? Those the knee arm wa and beauty and the beast guys we're talking about Lauren again, gonna look it up. Can't believe him many times to look things up because it's called the I don't get a potty. You're right how it would not be very to hire. Someone just sit next to the computer wardrobe. Her name is wardrobe. Instead of you know how they have Alexa and Google home. And so we should be like, hey, I don't get it. We should just come up with. Yeah. That is Alexa Alexa Alexa, Google home and Facebook's coming out with their own called Jarvis. Marv assed harvest. Remember ask Jeeves got how many kind of cute? President. He looks like he could have been American to me. I interpreted it him as more of a Bruce Wayne in my head. Oh, well, that would make sense. He was a Butler. Oh, now I remember. He wasn't a president. He's probably gay. That's one of the cartoon characters that they would now tell you after all, I don't get it is, as Jesus gay. Wait. We going asked us, Lauren. And it's still exists. The internet asked us calm and then ask him. Are you gay is Jeeves gay? How many questions would we ask him that we're just unreal? Like teenage questions and he'd be like, oh, no. It does not answer that question. Okay. Well, oh, asked us no longer on their it's ask dot com. I remember one hill door swing open kind of that. But set a pen fifty s. So while what I was going to tell you guys with the beginning of the podcast have to I don't get it. I think we've may already talked about this about, like my dad having certain people come to. He wants people come to the way talk rubbish. But you talked about how happy you are that certain people. Oh. Pot cow. I don't think so really not about your wedding. I didn't talk around. My grimala requesting certain people know really not on the policies that almost Amos. Maybe. No, I didn't talk about it. Then warren. I just wanna make sure repeating myself just wants to make sure repeating. Okay. Anyway about like six weeks ago, my grandma called me, and she was like, so I have a few requests for the wedding, and I was like, what I was super nice on the phone, but then, like I call my mom, I was like. Move. She wanted me to invite my dad's cousins who won I have met twice in my life. Oh, hell, no one, I've met once in my life and the other one my mom has an even met. And my dad hasn't seen since the age of twenty three. Why would why I don't want because they're just on the invite and they won't come and they'll make everyone to them are gonna come and it's just like really makes few weird. I don't know why it makes me feel so weird. And of course, I'm gonna let my dad invite them because but then he was like I said, dad, you don't really have a relationship with them? And then he was like on you. He goes, of course, I certainly do. And I. Jazz. Say one of them he said he goes, he went to my medical school. Graduation. I was like that was thirty that was thirty years ago. My you know how we went on the cruise and my mom Stanley. So like my mom's always had like this big, family, and have always kind of felt bad for my dad, 'cause my dad and have a big family. And my dad dad who's AGIP Shan kind of who's now passed his okay, I'm being very PC hit stepdad raised him. So I'd like to Grandpa's essentially, but his cO, gee, dad. Hud, like other kids in job. And so, my dad has like kind of siblings out there that we've never met, and like you sharing your story made me think, like if I got married, if my dad was like invite them. And like, I don't know, maybe kind that is a moment for him to for them to actually come out and like be with him. I think it's also like I guess this is you know what I'm saying? Like why else I don't know. They're not another reason to see the person for your daughter's wedding. Then that's kind of weird too. It's like well, if you really want to catch up. That's what I feel like it was weird. I think I would feel awkward. If I was attending somebody's wedding who I've only met twice isn't that wacky? I'm not even considering the cousin that my, my mom hasn't even met because my dad hasn't seen her since his twenties because that. No, my daddy said that is a bit ridiculous. But the other two, I just like I really I really my heart goes out, like all the brides brides. Out there like accommodate all these different people that aren't them. And it's like this is about you and Jared, I don't know. I think that's why having big weddings really scare me. I think that's another thing here is because like Khan to having a big winning all these people, take control. There's so many opinions. Yeah. It makes me I was like the girl growing up, just like you, actually. I was like, I'm in have a Cinderella ball now like I'm going to be Britney Spears everyone's going to be velour outfits. Backyard my mansion, when he Larry. Yes. Okay. So you just touched on something that also made me feel weird about extending an invitation to somebody. They have only met twice in my life. It is not a gigantic wedding. You know what I mean? Like it's one hundred eighty five max, the big wedding thing. So I think that's like that's a big. I think that's large to mid size. I think America considers it mid size. But I, I think let's take down come back down to earth. Two hundred people's a big event is at how tables twenty-seven know how many table, I think it's fourteen that's a lot of tables. Eleven people. Foreign weddings, having even more people like bigger family. I think American weddings are probably smaller than any other cultures. One, I guess, you're right like Indian weddings, all I'm saying is I'm not having like one of those two hundred twenty sweating in which I could see getting out of hand to be like, well, if you're going to write that person you got invited person but this is a relatively intimate group. I have best friends who are best friends with in college that are note that are not invited. Do you know what I mean? So how could I possibly not invite her? But I would invite the cousin of my dad's who I've met twice. That's the only thing doubt of you're gonna argue I know he's, he's paying part of it. So I can't I can't really argue it. I'm going to give them the invite. But it is just like if is a little different. It's the only it's the my dad and I got a little butted heads today about it. That's why I thought I'd share. Yeah. I'd like to other people's feedback on it, because I very common between a rock and a hard place. Because if someone's paying for some of it, you go let them do they want? Yeah, yeah, that's it. I feel. Yeah wants. No, I know I'm going to I it does suck because of what you were saying. When you said you were getting the RSVP's you're looking at the you're getting excited, there is something really special about, like, just every single person in a room. Yeah. Yeah. That's I think that's why I also feel like a little off from it is like, oh, I'm so excited that, like all of these people are coming. And yes, we've had knows we've had ten knows some of them were plus one like somebody like husbands, and wives. And I'm like, oh, great great. Those ones you want to be eliminated. Yeah. But I feel like oh, and then there's like that person. I'm already going to have so many people that I don't know Jared side. So, I guess growing to know them, they're like, that's awesome, sort of. Do you really get to know that? I think I think you're the type of person that'll, like people be around June. You'll be excited, you'll be excited to get to know part of family. You don't know his funny that there's when it's your own wedding that there's still going to be like maybe a fourth that you really never met. Wait what there's gonna be a fourth. The people there, I've never met. Oh, fourth of people there. That's crazy, more and so over this over just because you guys talk about wedding, all the time, all time, and all they never did talking about the fact that we have Indian food waiting and I have to go somewhere in about. Forty five minutes. I want enjoy watching nations'. Does. All right. All right. I. Subscribe follow. I don't get it podcast on Instagram. Okay. We love you. 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A Comfortable Dog

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A Comfortable Dog

"Canine nation e books are now available the first two volumes dogs as they are. And teaching dogs effective. Learning are available in bookstores now more on how you can get them at the end of this podcast. Welcome to canine nation audio edition. It's Tuesday may fourteenth twenty thirteen. Canine nation is a regular feature column that runs on the life as a human online magazine. Life is a human features articles about what it means to be human the good, the bad and the enlightening this column explores what it means to be human in our relationship with dogs. You can find it at life as a human dot com to get directly to canine nation. Goto canine, nation dot life is a human dot com. A complete archive of all the canine nation articles can be found there. Hi, I'm Eric, Brad. Canine nation is about learning understanding and living successfully with our dogs modern animal training, techniques based on behavioral science can produce a mazing results in working with our dogs. Whether your dog is a loved family member or a working dog canine athlete or a trusted companion positive training techniques based on science can help you. Enjoy a more productive and fun relationship with your dog. Join us as we explore the many facets of living with our dogs and taking a fresh look at how we worked with them. Whether it's taking a closer look at everyday issues, we share with our dogs or busting long myths about training and Doug behavior. I hope you find something useful in each of the canine nation articles. We're glad you're with us. Now, here's this week's installment. A comfortable dog. Most of us have had that feeling of relief at encountering something familiar when we are in a new situation. It could be a party you attend with a friend or spouse where you don't know any of the other guests, you meander nervously around making small talk until you suddenly find yourself in a conversation about something. You enjoy blessed relief something, you know, something about and suddenly the pressure and discomfort lift and time flies by you. Can enjoy the party and meeting new people rescued by the familiar? Those familiar and well known things seemed to become most important to us when we are the least comfortable with our situation or surroundings a favorite song at just the right moment or seeing a familiar restaurant chain in a foreign country can give us a sense of being a bit more grounded and allow us to continue with a bit more confidence. It's part of life that we gravitate to almost automatically. It shouldn't come as surprise to us that this same phenomenon can apply to our dogs too. We can sometimes be mystified at why our dog won't perform that new trick we taught them or is suddenly behaving nervously towards other dogs. Unfamiliar situations environments or encounters can put our dogs on edge reassuring our dogs isn't as simple as telling them that everything is all right dogs are naturally nonverbal creatures, but even our calm demeanor and protective posture can only go so far in helping our dog feel more relaxed. How can we help? Studies done with both children and the elderly have shown that familiar surroundings and favourite objects can contribute to an overall sense of wellbeing. Like the child that carries a favourite doll everywhere. They go our dogs may also benefit from having a favourite toy with them to keep them. Calm in new situations. The sense of familiarity that a favorite toy may bring can be an important coping mechanism for a dog under stress one of the favorite tools. We use with our dogs is both an object and to place their crate. From the time. They first arrive in our homes. Our dogs are given their crate to sleep in it is filled with a warm soft bed, and whatever toys the dog seems to be enjoying at the time during the days we practice going in your home and rewarding with food treats for being in the crate even for a few moments. We repeat the process several times a day gradually increasing the amount of time. We leave them alone in the great repeated exposure to their place with positive and comforting results is important. Most importantly, we never punish them by putting them in their crate. We try to keep their feeling about the crate positive. We like to compete with our dogs and dog agility, and this frequently involves us traveling to new places for trials having crates for our dogs provides them a home away from home where they can be comfortable and relax away from all the Hus. Title and bustle of the trial environment letting our dogs rest comfortably in familiar surroundings between agility runs helps them to be more focused and perform with less anxiety. It's technique that has paid dividends for us. Not just in Jilin situations. But also while travelling to visit friends or staying in hotels. Familiarity is not just about places and things it can also be about routine and repetition. We all have something we can call a lifestyle. Those small things we do with regularity. Our mealtimes, our laundry days are favored coffee or tea, and our hobbies and pastimes those things that we do frequently and do well getting an opportunity to do something we know and do well can also be source of relief from stress, for example. I happen to be pretty good at cooking on a barbecue grill. It's something I do. A lot. And I enjoy it very much when my wife and I attend summer parties, I often find a way to help out at the barbecue. Because I am uncomfortable in large groups. The ability to do something. I am good at and no well helps to ground me and make me feel more comfortable in a new situation. Not surprisingly this is also true for our dogs. We all have behaviors we have trained and practiced hundreds and hundreds of times with our dogs. Sit is a fairly common one. When our dogs seemed to get anxious or upset we almost instinctively ask them to sit just to come them down and frequently it works somehow that sit Q can penetrate their fog of upset and anxiety. And they plop there but down and look at us to see what's next once again, it is the familiar that comes to our rescue. Familiarity is something we have to build for our dogs. It doesn't come with them. When we bring them home in our family. We are deliberate about what we use for our dogs comfort triggers. We carefully train the crate we will play with our dogs using particular toys that they enjoy and we will teach them easy to do behaviors that we reward them for very frequently. What we are really doing is creating what psychology calls conditioned, emotional responses. We are deliberately helping our dogs to have a positive attitude toward the crate, the toy or the behavior that we teach them. It's a deliberate investment in something. We know we will use throughout our dogs lives. Dogs can develop conditioned emotional responses to any number of things and those responses can be either positive or negative. For example. If we frequently force our dog into a car only to take them to the vet for a scary examination. The dog will likely develop a fear of riding in a car the other side of that coin is that if we frequently take our dog in the car for short rides to the park where we have fun and throw the ball, then she will come to like the car and want to jump in every chance she gets. She has been conditioned to expect something good. When the car is involved. Lots of little things can add up to stress for a dog a dog that is fearful of children and doesn't like being crowded can tolerate either one being with a child or being in a tight space with a human. But if this dog found itself in a small space with a child, it's anxiety would be heightened, and there may be a greater chance of it acting out of stress the pressure of both of these factors becomes too much. Having our own positivity condition tools can help offset this negative equation in our example, here the dog may be willing to ignore the child in a small space if his favourite toys available to make him more, comfortable similarly, if the child asks the dog to sit or do some other well-known behavior and rewards the dog it's anxiety level may go down as well. Knowing that we have tools to ease. Our dogs stress makes training and managing in new situations. Much easier just to small dose of the familiar can be just the thing to bring our dog back down to earth. So that we can work with them. The good news here is that those conditioned emotional responses can happen, even if we don't know we are creating them we all use good dog or some variation. And it almost always gets a tail wag it's a positive association for the dog or perhaps for your dog. It's a Pat on the head or going for a walk together. Our dogs all have more than a few positive associations with us. And the things we do together we can use those things to help our dogs feel more comfortable it's much easier to work with the dog who is feeling comfortable and confident than one that is nervous and on edge. Having an awareness of win. Our dog is uncomfortable gives us the chance to bring in the familiar to help them feel more at ease. It could be a game of tug asking for a few. Well, rehearsed behaviors or even spending a few minutes safely napping in there. Great. It could be just the reset your dog needs to feel grounded again. And it can help them be the dog. You know, they can be even in those new or difficult situations until next time have fun with your dogs. I hope you enjoyed this edition of canine nation. You can find the text version of it at canine, nation dot life is a human dot com. Teaching dogs effective learning is the second canine nation e book to be released. 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Episode 408 - Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

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Episode 408 - Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

"This is a head gum podcast. Washington DC. This is your low ticket alert because as of this recording the tickets are east cage to our show in your city, Argo and fast Yemen. It's been a while you've been to DC we are excited to get back there to DC improv great venue. We're gonna have a lot of fun. A lot of laughs about God. And sixties, man. I cannot wait to talk about the awesome fucking peroxide bleach. Fucking dreads that Angelina Jolie has in this movie. If I'm remembering you're, right. Like one of those matrix goose Alpina up all our now. That's my impression if the scored doctor who in it. I mean, that's my scored in nineteen ninety eight to two thousand three true, but dot dot dot dot dot at art played that Bush's inauguration. I never want to score those tickets to the show that's April twenty third Tuesday night raucous evening in the DC improv those tickets going to be gone at sixty. Seconds guys got the to DC a later. Wow. Oh, wait ago. Nice. People. Tune in for his you're awesome, DC later WHM podcast dot com. Click on that tab, those going out. This week on the program like sand through the hour glass. This prince of Persia the sands of time, I'm Andrew Stevens. Aytac Chris Cabanera Cisco, and we hate movies. Hillary buddy. Welcome to we hate movies. Thank you for tuning in. As always if you're new to the program. This is a podcast of the comedy variety where we make fun of movies. Good bad. And otherwise and this week we are kicking off the twenty nineteen listener request month. That's right. This this little gem of film was requested by Brian from Louisville. This is what he had to say is Bryan for move. We'll hear the show my pick for return quest month is Persian. The same time from twenty ten I saw this on a date and high school and the date ended poorly because I was physically angry about the way that's the ended. So let me know what you think of the ending. Thanks now. If the ending was what made you mad about the movie like what about the resident is get. I mean at the time if I was in high school the end of this really would piss me off. I don't know. Maybe it's because I went through high school pretty much data. This Mike question is don't you want to read the room I've seen so many of these stories where people are like I was going to do with girl or a guy and the movie stunk so bad I was upset here. She liked it. And the date was ruined. I don't know. I'm like, oh, yeah. That's good. Question from the back. Here's did that ability to read the room lead you getting any girlfriend. No, it did not. However, this is this site like now, you know, what we're trying to get the kids lay fair. That's definitely do that. You should see what someone else thinks at this beer. But here's the other thing that we shouldn't. We shouldn't put this on the date that Brian had sure claiming that person then liked this movie. It could have been a thing where this dude just didn't shut the fuck up about hating the end of this movie. And that other person just wasn't having it and the girl pulled a Donnie gentleman. Donnie, Darko just looked at them. Are you okay? Wow. That's a deep pull every. So fucking red. Gentlema- loan by what are they Maloney Maloney? Oh, now, not like, John Maloney or Genucel me I thought you're making a thirty rock. But no, yeah. So like, we said, this is prince of Persia colon the sands of time from twenty ten directed by Mike Newell, who you may know from Harry Potter and the little fire Donnie Brasco for weddings and a funeral love in the time of cholera mostly pretty good yet, not bad for the most part till you hit this piece of fucking honcker shit. He's a workman though, you'll never know directed that he gets in and out like a he's like directing. In defense of this film. It seems ineffective. I mean, there's a lot of fence of but his direction, you know, on all supposed to be playing. Okay. Chris kevin. But the action sure I I was kind of okay with this movie for most of the I mean, don't tell Brian from Louisville, and it is in your I was on the date with him. And it is in your wheelhouse. You are say sorts of San are your game glistening hunk Drake juvenile and there's movie God looking at beefsteak running down a sand dune with with sandals on the sword. And I'm like, yeah. I could lamed Iranian Jake, Paul. You know at the same time you're sitting here loving this sort now. I want to take this magic dagger fucking cut my throat with all this. I cannot watch this stone love time travel. Do this is some phony baloney one minute at a time time travel this fucking minor league. Not realistic time travel other than in primer. I'm not talking about making sense. Steve saying I'm talking about you can only go back a minute at a time when you're fucking San runs out jerk me on what's the difference between that and getting your fucking jiggle box hit lightning bolts a lot. There's a lot that movies entertaining. Good performances. Well, written remembered by society decades after it came out, you're trying to make a movie that's what you're aiming for it. Sometimes get them all sometimes you don't you you pull somebody in being remember site. You pull somebody off the street make them watch prince of Persia colon sands of time. And you ask them at the end of the film. What year this we came out? They will be like two thousand four. Yeah. Feels like this is a real late two thousand ten I would never have guessed racially. You're right. Chris also, it's kind of weird that this is twenty ten and I think that's why I voided when it came out might as well have cast Paul giamati and menace to society. I would buy ticket for that. Also, I don't know why we're blaming twenty ten we're still fucking doing this. Now should have still going. I don't know why you made this movie the way it is like, you know, what I mean? I don't know make get get like just a don't make this movie one that's a start. But just like just all of the white people. If you want to the beginning of this movie is like, oh, Jake Jilin hall's, not the prince is not actually the prince of Persia. He's like an adoptive prince of Persia. Hey, good move movie. Like, you don't even from the same hometown. But like, maybe he's a slave different different era or something fell off a wagon. Yeah. From he got lost wagon kids, but. Everyone in this movie is white except for like the extras. You know, what I mean like for the most there's at one black guy who's like an expert knife-thrower ever stopped the tweets now, I know that Ben Kingsley's Indian or Indian heritage stopping that right now, we we set otherwise on the love guru shit. I'll eat some shit you please. I'll eat shit shit. Hoagie. Do I have to supply right now? John waters to get here. First cabinet. Are you rewatching his film? The third fucking episode to row you bringing this man. I love him. I'm just saying this love apparently started three weeks ago. So this movie is based on a vigil game. Right. Anybody play this thing. I played the old one for super Nintendo a little bit. I rented at one other guys isn't for me. Idea. What this is is like a like an Aladdin thing the platformer that I played which was you know, like, you know, your to to decide scroll right was very jumped heavy. The graphics are pretty cool. The gentleman was wearing a turban at the time. But when I was reading up on this on the on the way in here in the in the office of the early outs. This game prisoners time relaunched the series is kind of an action adventure kind of game. Park court type shit. This may be like a tomb raider like hind gang. Young going dungeon, your puzzle. Because it does the beets are very game. Like like, a lot of modern blue great point Chris cabin. Speaking of tomb raider. That is our bonus episode this month on dot com slash we hate movies another requested to video game movies pulled out. Lara Croft tomb raider the first Angelina Jolie tomb raider. Yeah. And I think just like that movie this movie also proves we gotta stop adapting videogames. We gotta figure something out. We we do it. I mean, what the fuck are we doing how hard can it be to adapt videogame? What we did it once well with board games for clue. But we yeah. We really haven't done it yet with this. I I'm games. Yeah. This was this before warcraft came out, which somehow made money or enough money. This was the highest grossing video game movie of all time of doing including warcraft came out and this made like ninety million domestic Bill three hundred hundred million with a two hundred million dollar budget, though. So it's still a total failure. Well, yeah. Video game is our failure craft man that was bad. I will defend that new tomb raider, though, we get into writers probably the best of the bunch which is sad. I still think mortal combat. That's that's that's my that's I think that's kind of the gold. Standard. It's like steal the plot of different movie, and then filter your videogame through it. And that's your movies. So interesting how I hated that movie in the ninety and now, I guess it's probably the best because the bar has been continually pushed down farther and farther that when you look at mortal combat you're like, wow, what a masterpiece and if they can just in the camp zone, but not to the point of like what the fuck Areva do it with Mariel brothers. That's movie almost unwatchable. You guys are complaining about Jake Jilin hall being cast as an Iranian prince. Yes, Christopher lamb bear in mortal. Some white face. John Leguizamo Planina talian. Casting all these moves the worst offender of the malls. So we open on a picture of the desert, and we get some fucking papyrus. Like we're watching the documentary where Michelle Rodriguez did does Iowa which is the documentary. I watched last Rican by the way now is this a fake documentary? And it's just TV special hit on blue makes people like Steve think, it's a dad sixty seven minutes, which you know, the red flag right away is it's by this rich guy. He's like, oh, man. The movie made by Richard. I'll tell you guy's Richard. It's fucking hilarious. It's guys like him in what what even is existence, blah, blah, blah, did Iowa with all my rich friends, the most famous of which was Michelle Rodriguez for no reason. And did easy rider to. No. But he did he in the nineties. You bought beer dot com for thirty thousand dollars and then a couple of weeks later, so the for seven million dollars. Wow. In a couple of weeks. Actually, you know, what I'm impressed by this. That's pretty awesome. I should also point out. I immediately thought about this from the opening thing where we see fireworks over the magic kingdom. This is Disney desperately trying for new pirates of the Caribbean. Franchise assure you better believe they could see that shit was running on fumes speaking of magic kingdom and all the street rat action. We're about to get this is probably going to be better than Latin movie. That's coming out. I'm yes. Probably racially the Aladdin movies better because there's actual Brown people in it. Which can thank you won't have any this movie does not have juice step genie. Yeah. That's which means this movies better. Yeah. I think at the end of the day the sense of time we'll pet. Ooh. At least going to be. Opinions can gambling at it. And we got you can't bet on a Chris cabinet opinion. Which is the most people don't know. This is one of the most contrary and film critics to ever walk the earth firmed by hard data hard data like three guys at MIT hard data. That's like a nerd porno. Chris Kaban is mother was contrarian his fath- abashed. Phoned him the most. Film critic of all die Liam Niessen. Oh so much. Because didn't he give that interview? I did one for the guardian. So we get one of my favorite movie trips ever, which is a prologue that will be needlessly explained in about twenty minutes after the movie begins anyway, so why even have it? And it's the worst way to display this kind of information where it doesn't like four words at a time. So you just reading I think it's honestly one sentence. That is presented on like six different slide transition. It said some lives are linked across time. But that comes up really slowly it takes a while to get their dash destiny. Let's start the move. That's great. That's awesome. I've got him so excited for this movie. And what you just read is like they put it up seriously one or two words at a time. Yeah. It is. That lives some lives sub. I started. Julia kings blood has destiny, so we we meet the king's son is doing something in the marketplace with this kid named dust on just Don gets in trouble. Isn't it dusted? The american. Dusted this movie Dow green? Dusty the dustman dusty principle, the prince of poughkeepsie. Hell, yeah. We are in the Royal city of missile off. We are told okay and the kings coming through and something happens some kids getting beat up and this guy desk. Dan, Chuck's apple at this motherfucker and stands up for this little kid. And the king says, that's a genius boy. Yeah, here's this. Here's this kid. Just standing up for another kid. Oh, I'm just gonna steal this little guy. They're about to cut his arm off. And the king was like literally tired of like, he just got bored of it like looking see little kids get made like it wasn't like moral. It was just I've seen that. So many times like oh, God what else is on? I can't even shoot to this anymore. Do you know how many rooms in my palace filled with children hand this seventeen? At this point. We put a whole child in one of those routes cut him up out. No, leave him in one piece out some new I. You say get closed for hauling him dusted. Right. He's caught by the way after like, some serious CGI park or this era. It's a lot like nine years out. This does not age at all. I started to glaze over the second. I saw this stuff, and what sucks is you just do right? From that point. Like this movie is just like a hair under two hours. I knew right from that second. That's all this movie is of course, introduced this movie. And this scene is king. Cer- Ben Kingsley and you're like, well, he's evil. Well. The boy deserves to get his arm cut off by Lord. Like, well, of course as fuckers number two king. Of course, he's crooked. It's Ben Kingsley. Just look at them. I make mean halfway through this. He starts singing be prepared. Oh, he is totally scar. So that DASS Don is adopted by the king, we cut to fifteen years later, he's grown Jalen hall. And by the way, thank God for the genius cinematography for this from this movie, the yellow tint Earls, I would not have been able to tell that we were in the desert. Well, I mean like how you gotta follow Benicio del Toro while Michael Douglas is off doing this stuff. You could get really really confused if you don't see it guys they've got Eric Christians in fucking Odeen in my best of bright now. Wash off that yellow desert shit in get to my house, and where the fuck is 'to for grace in all of this. So sorry, a trailer that Tofa grace did all of his wisdom of the entire Star Wars saga. Can somebody got this acting work get this away from his editing bay? And here's the thing. Like, I watched it. I watched it and its entirety. What it's pretty cool. It's fun. But listen, stop acting like this, dude, just cured cancer. You should have seen some of the headlines when this thing was ready. So what what what is this? Now, it's just a trailer just made a five minute trailer. We combine footage of every Star Wars movie. So rogue one and solo hasn't everyone on YouTube done that better because it's a millionaire better Stouffer grace, but it's still just on Tofa Grace's YouTube page. Okay. So that made news yoyo made a lot of dues the Hollywood reporter Lord. Yeah. No, exactly. Like, someone please. I know he's got this fucking Jesus movie coming out, but that's long since shot. Please find something for this guy to do. I'm so sad. So we're about to see us to a city or country called Alam it, which there's some bad information. We're doing a little bit. I think we're might be making a political statement somewhat of this just here. We're invading this town based on false information that there is a a reser drove. Yes. Eagle forges that they're making weapons to supply to the enemies of Persia. Right. So we're going in there to bus that shit up now based on bed. Intent is the rich deposits coal colon. Gotta go gotta go of the United Nations. Let everybody know that we know for sure that those weapons are there. Tyler perry. Yep. I know Medina's funerals coming out before you do that got to be Colin Powell. Hey, poppy today descend class. Yeah. I sure hope so boy tabs running out. Sands almost through the hourglass better. Get the magic dagger will press the button as wheelchair to go back in time. The but we're going to get to the button. This movie pushed all sorts of buttons for me. So we there's three brothers one is a guy I've ever seen before one is the affirmation prince of Persia, Jake Jilin hall in all hunky glorious. And then the third is the fucking snake bitten actor Toby Kebble. Yeah. I was in every bad franchise. And every I was. I was about to say I haven't seen this guy before doodoo plays doctor doom in the newer fantastic. Four movie. I I can't even picture the face is the villainous ape in war of the planet of the apes or no dawn of the planet. Okay. He's in our hurricane heist lead. He's in. I didn't see that. It's bad. It's bad news. He's in oak rice that Ben Hur movie that Jesus Christ this guy tried to watch that. And I couldn't I couldn't make his, but it was a sword and move. That's why put it. He's in a quote, unquote. Good episode of black mirror. Yes. That's the one. That's one of the ones. I like the third episodes. Yeah. I'm okay, cool is fucking pigs that or he's not the pig fucker now sort of eyeball recall situation like here, he can his his home is controlled through his eyeball or some selling twisted. Into the black Mary think about it has almost like looking at a screen seeing back. What? Oh, yeah. That's cool dark reflections. Yeah. I'm just glad people finally stop telling me I have to watch that show. What if rhyme reason why I don't watch that show is because you couldn't fucking bump into someone on the street without them going? Hey, g watch black mirror of your watched on new black mirror yet. Hey, what if your PS four was trying to actually kill you? Think about it. All his fucking Lord the twilight zone, I prefer the original show black mirror when I would go into the bathroom turn off the lights and say, Bloody Mary. Much better. Will you'd have to say that into your to Alexa. You say. That's your plan. Yeah. It's like an electron it goes. And you're locked in the bathroom. You can't get out. I'm always locked in the best. So they wanna they wanna see just place because there's weapons Banking's is way behind it. And they're fighting over which son is gonna take the glory and then Jake journals like fuck it. I'll do it. 'cause I'm in great shape. But he doesn't tell anybody else. He just Niks in those little goon friends. It's a mistake. It's a big mistake. But you know, because he's the hero of this film. I'm sure this is the hubris of the hero journey. He's sneaks into this city through the arrow ladder come on. This didn't do anything for you guys. The letters pretty cool was kind of cool. It's fun. It's like ten seconds out of those two. That little fun there early in the movie. Yes. I found a salty patch in this porridge. It also just reminded me though of like, I would if this because this whole sequins like all the action sequences in this movie. Feels like what it must be like to play the video game at this aero- ladder. I was like this is a part of this game. I would be balls frustrated at screaming fuck indelible, though. I'm not too sure about the science involved here. The momentum of this cross. Oh, you're right. We should own science here. But also like this is not a silent way to break into something. We will shoot narrows it. The fuck it wall fucking thud sound. Why are we talking like that? Print surprise you? Everything's all mixed up anyways should earthquake as I heard of it. Yes. He uses arrows to get up top of this wall. And he does some cool park Cording. And there is a shot that is an assassin's creed show where it's like vantage point and kind of like gets around. It was it's a big video game establishing shot. I mean, they're still using it now because this also reminded me of that new Spiderman game that I'm playing you can make Spiderman like perch on top of a huge antenna shit. And the camera kind of like goes around you can see the city, I think it's standard video game establishing show, and it's a post perch jump to down into the ground like swan. It's exactly yeah. Those games are like that that movie I will say as much as I hated this movie that movie is way, more boring ever tried to be it's ten times worse. Speak of that's weird time travel to right? That's time. Whatever the. I'm Michael fast bender and me and my big Dicker in the future. We go back in time. And my great grandparents, they strap you in a chair shove some fucking needle up your ass. And then you flash back to a relative's life or something so stupid. So the oh that fuck I'm poor. Oh, wow. Wow. I've even poorer a while. I'm dead. I'm my relatives were tartan feathered. Well, now, just some kind of gelatin thing wandering the ocean. She dude lose the secret of the us. So he he threw a lot of sort of slow MO action sequences. He sacks aliments and lets his buddies in right? And it's kind of amazing this entire legion of fucking dudes on horses with fucking with goddamn like spears. And like like, what do you call? It a banners all sorts of shit. Right. I'll wait the door on the left is open. Let's go that way. I don't think it's that easy to just sort of like redo that like 'cause it's like they're at one point. And they're like, oh that other door on the other side of the city is open. Just hang a left wing. That's what you do like. Because what are you gonna do still storm the gates? No. But I'm saying like what I think Steve is also pointing out as they go around as if it takes two seconds. Yeah. He's literally the other side of the town. Frame them. If you've got a map, and you want to go this way. Then look all these dudes thousand the guy all the way, the I guess you're following the horse. It would take time. That's for sure. But I kind of want like a movie that's entirely a castle siege or something just like just play out in real time. That's a good idea castle. See almost two towers, but there's a lot of other stuff in there. But this is excellent. We do get some boiling oil being dunked dumped onto people which is. Jay throws a torch into it goes on fire. Big problem here is that. I don't see anyone running around on fire. That's the problem in this movie is completely toothless with that shit. And it's like you don't wanna show like game of thrones as decapitations in whatever. Okay. But like have some computer flaming oil fall on a computer person running around Houston? Houston or something. You know what? I mean, anything it doesn't even hit them. Just like, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Backup backup yet. Dr. Really back up. Yes. So he like everyone's like, hey, good job on the great job this Princess. It's kind of amazing. She gives this dude. German entertained Princess who's like inner cutting with her like, oh, my greatest to Meena by the well. I apologize. No politics is a native in in re American remake. She's tammy. Just me. Could remake. So wh what is Persian in that Ohio? Pittsburgh. Oh cabinet poughkeepsie poughkeepsie Tammy and Dustin pick your heels and poughkeepsie. That were just down the road today. Baby that were just like making the whack nece again. Yeah. Bucking late ought fucking. I didn't watch it. You know, like indie movies wherever do drugs, saying interesting things. Speaking of Ben Kingsley, by the way. Oh, he's the dad in the whack those therapist. Okay. Just you know, I didn't see it. I was just trying to remember the trailer. Because I thought it looked fucking terrible. It is fucking. But you're also reminding me of what the fuck was that movie with Artie Jay where they filmed in a story guide to recognize your saints. I kinda like them. Yes. But that's another one of those movies. We're all doing drugs as teenagers. One of our friends gets hit by the subway. Whatever who back to the old neighborhood feel some stuff. Well, no, it's it's the long enduring influence of renowned normal person. Larry clark. Oh, there are people that will tell you. That guy's a genius. Whatever she this Princess a here take this dagger. She takes her trust this guard. There's a fight between this guard and Joan whole between. Don't see like when he gets. I feel like I see the guard foaling. Yeah. I remember what you're talking about. Because it's in like, it's wrapped in a cloth or something. And this dude's trying to make a break for it. I think Jilin hall lays this guy out with like one swift park work ethic. But which is great. But I mean like this is a big moment for the movie. Right. This is when he gets the dagger of whatever the flow every moments big moment in this movie, man, Phil you would want this to be kind of a cool fighter something we'll because the movie at this point hasn't told you that this thing is really that important. Don't know what it is. It hasn't been unsheathe alter whatever it'd be like in the in later in the movie when Duston Dustin say Austin, guys, Dustin like, no, he ends up turning on Persian realizing this was the wrong thing to do. You. Don't want to think back on him like brutal murdering rusted guard of sunny does murder like a hundred thousand but we're not dwelling on it. You have to be like fuck really d- step. Amac is face. Before a bunch of oil over a bunch of people and then lit on fire your. So whatever. So they sacked this place everyone's excited. Toby Kebble is the youngest brother. He's a jealous of him. That should have been me. I think his name is Garbis. But we'll say, Gary, I get Gary. Who we're gonna call Todd Todd who's the older brother who's white is a fucking driven to somehow wider. The Joe white. You're BBC player. Like, it's really really them. He's Michael sheen white isn't Tammy as well as as well Jemma art, detain Tammy. And Jake Jilin hall, Dustin, both let's just say went on a long vacation in the sun. It's it's not quite Brown face. But it's pretty Dern close. It's just like all right between takes please les. This tanning bed. Also, we should talk a little bit about Jake Jilin halls accent in this movie shore, the he's doing a Christian bale in real life and Breshin. Because when that guy starts talking like, wait who's talking? It's weird here in this voice. Come out of that guy's mouth. It's silly. It's a silly accent. Like, it's not actually trying to do anything Persian or rainy. You can't do that. No. I know, but we're just doing British as British accents and life her story drama. The baseline is British which reason you just I don't even started. When the when the British played the Nazis all the time. I was the patient zero. So we go back to the home base. And we're celebrating having this big thing. And this is my favorite part of this over sure where it's just it's a quick two second thing. But it's really fucking funny. It's like one of these dudes toseh- the other guys walking around like where the fuck is Jay jail at hawed and Gerry I'm trying to use appropriate. Name bothered to take notes names it takes place in poughkeepsie. Jake, Jillian hall is wasted trying to do. All right. I know what you're gonna do this. And he's trying to do like drunk backflips off this wall, and he just eats shit immediately. This is a good reason. Why? Ever learned back. Let's all I would ever do. It's just like the scene. Just like the scene in principle, Kip see where Gary tries to get on the Gerry and our hero dust and tried to get on the metro north while drunk. You know, who would definitely have to be imprinted poughkeepsie, by the way is Christopher Walken. Oh for sure. Yeah. He's somebody's like grandfather's something in this. He's got like a an American flag flying on these. Ben kingsley. He could be so. Justin getting on that train somewhere. Exotic Ben Kinsley xeme so Ned until net. So, but uncle Ned and disease. So this actor town dick wasted. And like the brother toss who's the favorite son is like oh nice knife, Jake Joan hall that you since you betrayed my orders. I get to have it. And I think is it Ben Kingsley. Don't take that knife. You you've received enough awards as it is. I believe it's been Kingsley who who mucks this up. And then tosses like, oh, hey, man. I gotta do some stuff over here. Why don't you take this? Awesome. Robak back to dad. I got this Muslim prayer robe. It's nice folded. It's a gift from dad from from the city Alam it. Everything's dope. Have you touched it? No, no. I haven't I wouldn't. Why would I touch a rogue? Why would I put it on? And the other thing is also toss. Sorry, Jim Anderton who's to Meena has been promised to toss as like his wife disorder like next wife. We're told we don't know the exact number. But we're told that tiles has many yet one is Gina. What is gene Tripplehorn the other ones khloe seven. Yeah. Then. Big love joke. There. Falco who was that third woman. Oh, she's she's. Time all the time. Oh, right. Paxton. Third wife Bill packs. Harry dean Stanton, you mean? Oh, yes. That nobody Harry Anderson owner, Harry Dave is indeed way. No, who's the fucking macgyver guy. Reprieve finding my Anderson's, Mr. Anderson. So it's like okay, bring my wife to meet dad. I'm gonna stay down. Like, hey, take this totally cool robe, which is really real and not so bad. Right. And so they go back to this party. And like, here's the thing you this is a Joseph and the technicolor Dreamcoat fucking favorites on I'm gonna kill this kid bullshit. Because this king is just like, oh, I love my fuck and adopted son. My real sons are shit. And it's like every every word of this guy's about is my fucking real sons our garbage this kid that I brought in is so much better. He fair there. These fucking sons suck players they because it's like, okay already, given this one tussey gave him a ton of wives. And he legally invaded this city. I didn't want to do king was against it. He was like, why are we invading? Holy city again. All right. Well, it's too late. Fucking told you those WMD's are not in the holy city that hasn't been breached in thousand years and dust was the one that was able to do it. I mean, he could have lost his army against this city. But you know, so so his son suck his sons. Jan and the other one's like just brash it Toby cables, ship rash idiot. He's like, my one son invaded that city my rule, and that other son he keeps being all these fuck and franchises. And nobody wants to see him hurricane. Go to your room. I really were good on black mirror. Everybody says you were good. I'm black mirror. But you work. Also, just I'm sure it's fine everyone. You don't have to tell us. I know you probably already tweeted it. But I'm just saying do you do that three? So can't believe they didn't watch black mirror. So he's like, okay. You know at dust on you, actually, get this woman for your first wife because you did such a good job. And you get to keep that cool night, which probably doesn't have supernatural powers. We're almost positive. It doesn't. Oh, you got a rope. There what will me just snuggle on into it? And it's just amazing because you're right. Everything out of this dude's mouth is just making these two sons want to fuck and merging journal. And then it's like oh. And he totally takes credit for the robe. He's like and also here's this robe. I got. So they put it on him and immediately. This dude starts disintegrating. Basically, I need to see turned into a skull. Absolutely. Yeah. He starts here. Like hot under the collar like the joker shook his hand. But what is this poison? I am. I need more info because it's poisoned. They say it's poisoned. But it looks more like a magic spell. Yeah. Already. Got a magic dagger. Just make a magic spell how fucking awesome. Would it be though if like he's screaming and you're seeing all the smoke and the cloak opens? And it's like fucking Mars attacks or something and dudes ahead and a skeleton. To see beast master. There are dudes and bee's master who are like, I don't know if they're cave creatures necessarily, but they like bat like wings, and they'll grab you could call those cave creatures. Yeah. They'll grab you Chris. They'll invalid you in their wings. And then they'll open it up, and you bonus vaguely remember this. I think I saw one of those seems before it greened out watching that move. It's the perfect way to green out. Yeah. Was quite comfortable with my decision that night. But again, you might retain more. But yeah, let's go a little cartoon at some of this Vence later, we have like kind of supernatural like soldiers that show up. And then it'd be way more supernatural. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. They're just kind of like a little too good with their weapons the snake? Guys, naked SAS Persian ninjas Cobra. Exactly. Kind of he dies again. Like, I understand you want to get your Pete you want to get your beloved PG thirteen he could be like screaming. And then you turn Jake Jilin hall. His faces shock you turn back. Spooky skeleton. A rope. What happen? That's awesome. Exactly. I don't eat guts falling on the floor. I just wanna fuck in spooky scaling. I still don't think like Disney was just trying to not because I mean, they allowed that I guess in the second pirates of the Caribbean. Hey, James, Gillan hall your phrase that goes stories because you're in one. The whole thing. I forgot about that asks line in one of those moods. The first one. Better start believing in ghost stories because you're in one cabin. I think you're talking about is it the second pirates movie attrition underwater. Army of zombies. Oh, yeah. Penetrations in the third one guy. That's the strange tied. Quash the motion in the ocean. You better start believing that sex stories because you're in. It's not the size of the boat. It's the motion in the ocean. You are in one Orlando Bloom's like wait what? Why why am I making up making out with Johnny Depp right now? Oh, you better start believing its actions because you're in one got to suck it before your fucking. This is definitely dialogue from some pirates of the Caribbean porno. Of course. So everyone's like, oh my God. And there's no trial or he did it and they start rushing him. Absolutely. So the thing you want to do here is grab this woman. Who's also a prisoner of your people and jump out the fucking window and run away with his best but gets killed here. I mean, this character doesn't really matter. But he does get murdered. Oh, he gives them some cover and run down. It's fucking murder. We to believe that this best bud is the best bud from the beginning of the move up. Yeah. Same the one that he was saving from the from the chopper, right? If there were a Peres there there was a principal to he probably would be in it, and maybe or probably recast but one hundred percent recap. The winter Persian soldier. So they go on the run and whilst on the run. This is what we finally get the fuck and the secret dagger with the time shit, but there's so much and this sequence with the two of them just running off on horseback. Launches one jump head of the hitman wonder ahead of the pride with the fuck. I'm saying some land is that it's been layers from these players. I don't remember any of the songs really I'll tell you this though. This sequence starts off the endless fucking like Indiana Jones esque bickering between the. Insufferable takes them way too long to like each other like to the point where like you just don't like each other. You know, what I mean, this is gonna work. I mean, you know, his they're both just lost their kingdoms. Did there? You know? It's a tough time for both of them. But speaking of Indiana Jones, like this does feel like that not only there but in the action sequences, especially later on. And it turns out this guy. Also, directed a bunch of the young Indiana Jones shits, did they remake sense. Oh, interesting. It was less Indiana Jones, more the desert scenes in aqua man to me as far seen it. Great moving agree. You're in a desert in the movie, aquaman, happens eve. You are fuck your mind blown this. My I was disappointed. I know it's my own fault. I waited too long to see the movie, but when I finally had some down the movie, it was a thing where it was playing in literally two theaters in all the five boroughs and both times it was like nine fifteen nine twenty five. And I'm like, I've not seen a two and a half hour presentation at nine o'clock at night. And it's like way the fuck downtown just, unfortunately, I'm going to have to be the guy that rents the big screen. Let this be a lesson you kids don't snooze on the things you want to see on the big screen because you know, what they're not going to be there forever. Goodbye, you say that now, but kids rest assured, you're going to be like be wilder in like twenty years when suddenly they're doing a retrospective of fucking film for. Cold, they tote that the total recall at fill for like what world is this? Now. I know I wanna do Jason momoa retrospective. Let's do it L. They'll do James wan Richard Specht eventually in that movie that you could do retrospective Patrick Wilson. What the fucks going on with him retrospect? This. Cancelled triple feature man gets Iraq. Maybe just a double feature. Those in the city is movies. I remember, I don't think he's impart three different story. But when Jason momoa dies. Could be great retro. They'll do it. When he dies for sure. Don't have to wait until someone dies do retro. But you never know. We'll be showing aquaman one aquaman two and two and a half episodes of game of thrones tonight. Everybody perfect. I'm in. It's all I want dad batch dude that movie fucking sucks at I love it. What is there to love it? You fucking contrary in shit or would also show him in that pink cool suit. He wore at the Oscars. Yes. Or here's also ten minutes of the show that he was on that aired on the Sunday that absolutely no one watched is some kind of western hold on. Let me look up something on interweave Jason momoa, western Serey. What am I selling tickets for? And finally close out the restoration with his much acclaimed remake of citizen Kane. I take it for that in the feud rose, but bra in the future all retrospectives will be at some guys. Go down down down twenty. Wait, wait. So Rosebud was the name of surfboard. Oh shit. I like this movie. Also have the surviving footage from dune, which as you know in a fire before could be finished. Or after the Timothy beloved Timothy shallow may was killed in that onset accident. And also if you stick around long enough, I'm gonna put unsupported early. Just a couple of buddies watching something fun to on one admission. I mean two for one. It's the pirates of the Caribbean. Port. On stranger babes. That's probably what definitely probably in one. So whatever their bickering in the desert. She like tries to trick him into a solution would be to kiss me. Yes. Then kill me. And he's like, well, I'll Kili I'll print say she's me. Jank. Maybe we're all the principal. You write out your Persian mouth. At this point. She gets the better of him. And he finds the fully-functioning fucking of button honest to goodness clicker at the end of this dagger that that allows travel back in time. And he's like, whoa. That's weird doesn't again, and this and this shit by the reliever Elliott magic word would be nice no way that we really slay. Wait, steve. Did you read the trivia? No, no. This was originally the the sequel to click to and then they had it was much like, you know, how diehard sequels turned into God knows. See so Adam Sandler sat on the rewind button. Too long been Persia goon originally click to was Adam Sandler going to Iran to watch TV. I here's the thing. And I will defend the button, even though it's stupid. But how need is it that in a video game at to activate you thing? You gotta push a little expert. It feels very I mean, obviously, that's the point kind of sort of. I did appreciate that the way that this plays out. Is it looks like you're having kind of like an out of body experience. Something about that. I was like I okay. Yeah. Warming up. No, I'm not I still fuck. Was born to tears, and then she's and he's like what I'm travel. Wait what time travel? She's trying to play it. Right. Yeah. She knows the score about what this dagger. Do. She does we kind of we keep bickering. We get into another fight in another desert. Well, there was a weird thing right here though. Just maybe explain some of this stupid thing works one thing that this dagger is capable of doing is running low on battery that is like he goes to do it again, or whatever, and it doesn't work, and she goes you've used up all the sand without sand unlisted. Unless you never mind the point is back to also say that it's just a stupid. It's like, oh, the fucking controller ran out of charge. Oh, you used up all the sand. Elma you'll have to go to the the this part of the map ticket more of the map salute to talk to this dude far with this fucking fuck and bitch. I just got the dagger. At a fuck and said at my God master sword broke took me a fucking three weeks to get that fucking thing. And it can charge now. Okay. Okay. There's not a minibus there. That's that's interesting. That's that. We're all gonna believe. Go fucking ten minutes out of my way. And I'm going to go through this whole fucking fake dungeon fighter. Puckett skeleton, burn off all my health packs, and then I gotta go somewhere else to get those. So he realizes what the dagger is. And so he then starts thinking. Oh, that's why my brother tusk wanted it. So if he has this thing he can go back and change, and he could become the most powerful dude in Persian history. Scher is the, but you also as it turns out, you're in the desert man, there's fucking sand anywhere. This takes a special kind of saying, let's just call it magic sand. It's magic San San. You gotta go to like a special gas station and just the diesel shit to fill up you stupid MAG. Just make it like multicolored or something. The old coke bottles with that's the best. Magic saying that's al-sanaa dart. That's the stuff. That's what you put in this stupid glass tag shit that parents had to waste money on. So you can just have something to do at your kids fucking birthday party. If you didn't want to Chuck E cheese, but also didn't have a pool in your backyard. Magic San party. I never even heard of this. Oh, come on. You summit like models like different colors sand in it. I'm just saying. Woodstock. I'm sorry younger than you guys. Your. General storm in. Okay. So you wouldn't be magic Senate be wacky? San do. Definitely sold. Me candy cigarettes. Usually sold at the same. I remember candy cigarettes. That's the you won't see anymore out anymore. But boy was something. Yeah. These fucking millennials, man. Candy cigarettes are. Ruined the kidney cigarette industry. Well, you guys are bitter old gen Xers young plucky millennial. Actually, I think we all I wonder the millennial. We're all we all millennia. Exactly also, did you you've there have been a lot of words used to describe you over the years. Yes. However, plucky not to know, not one feathers. Always been leaning more towards the senior than the millennial. I'm just an old soul. Chris lost. They can captured by Alfred Molina who by the way, I was shocked. Wait, what they get captured as they start writing into the valley of the slaves and now to contextualized this for you value. The slaves is just share would forest and Alfred Molina is friar tuck and the dude that throws the knives is just will scarlet go. Well. Well, we also have to talk about the first time we see alpha million. He's like. You were doing the finger things silently for so long. I thought for a second you forgot? This was a podcast. What the fuck is. You're right though. He puts he hits a play on awesome mix tape number six that's fucking motor. He's in his underwear waving a gun around for some reason why there's a little Persian, dude. Behind him throw in the snaps. And yes, Jake. Actually, Jim Anderton steals. The knife runs away. Jake Joan Hong gets stolen by Molina. I she fakes passing out and then can hit him in the head with a bone like the beginning of two thousand one. And this guy over million is like, oh, my friend here. It's your classic and he's a black guy. And it's like, oh, it's your classic. Like, oh, this guy saved my life once and now he's dead to me forever. And or I saved his life went, blah, blah. And he's the Baka tribe. I think they call it. He's from he's from Baka and that they're all like masters of throwing knives. I guess the. And he's pretty much and. Just the idea is like, oh, he's with knives. And like there's a stupid runner, which is when they do it at the end it lands with which is like have I ever told you about the book drive, and the I know what it's like, well, the best throwing knife people in the world. So the bubble, blah, blah. And like that's just kind of like in there that kinda gets Robak later, whatever. Yeah. Now, we'll it gets brought back for very important reason. This guy is very important character in this movie. Is he though sure what before all that happens? We have to have the thing of like this dude throws a knife. And it's like ball and like almost hits deck. Yeah. And then offered Molina has to be like, oh, don't you think he can throw it a couple of inches high next time, and I'm like, Yep. A stabbing Dicks. I mean, not only fire truck though, Eric he's definitely a little bit or more than a little bit doing, Johnny Depp. And pirates, right? Yeah. He's a Little Richard. You're caller. Sexy merchant. Yes. But it's Elfriede Moline. But you're like sexy older man, and he'll like Fagin vibe a little bit. Was like a mastermind it has like a series of crime. Do you think that Jake Jalen hall and alphabet had talked about that one time? When Jake was almost Spiderman to probably know. Well, he's now in Spiderman what is it? What is it in your new legislation experiment? Nine words spider. That would be Spiderman you gotta count spider verse in that'd be seven. Then I think grace. He's playing the maestro. The. And yeah. Spiderman two Topi got hurt. And he was almost not gonna be able to do the movie. How do you get hurt in in the pussy? They say it was on seabiscuit set. But I think pussy posse related whatever it was it was a back injury. Oh shit. Wires you. I think it was too much humping. They set. Here's the thing. Yeah. They said it was a seabiscuit thing. I think it was a thing. They were all at a diner, and he talked shit to the wrong, dude. And then a bunch of guys kicked him in an alley injury sustained on don's. For new listeners if they don't know we'll see posse. We're not just being crude dudes. No, we're just attitudes. No, we're not that we're referring to sexual Kabbal Leonardo to a group of friends. Group is sex. I think criminal shreds sex sex sex. Enjoy I think Toby probably got a pretty mean kicking from those boys. But then the monster from the garbage for Mojo and Dr finish them off. I feel like that across town Vijay CGIL and all his buddies are literally just playing end sixty four eighty Doritos. Unlike our vaguely don't like this is kind of a great Nate. Someone like fucks up on Donkey Kong goes like oh shit. Like, Jerry, just said, a swear. Where the buddy posse 'cause we're buddies the titles pretty obvious. What you have to group of button, who's buddy fussy. God. Great question. What sucks? I knew this was coming. And I was like thing around that age. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Gosling, Ryan Gosling is. Also coming off the Disney Canadian, and he's nice, exactly. Yes posse which should it. Be called the buddy brigade. Okay. With the alliteration. But here. Seth rogan. I think that guy had is Charlie. Charlie Charlie, Charlie, Charles, absolutely in the buddy brigade. Tom Evert, Scott. Oh, he's a little older than those dudes. But maybe, hey. Hey, hey, Jake. You're gonna come over. You gotta go over his house. We're going to be watching Ghostbusters to later. Oh, man. I love that one is better. In the first of the asked me, I'll bring the Kito d-. It's him. You know, who could be in it though, you sit throwing Kevin I don't know about that. But definitely from that like era Martin star. He could gyms vanderbeek. Oh, you definitely having a hard time trying to remember like nice people. But on the on the vanderbeek, I'm the vanderbeek though cabin. Joshua jackson. Definitely part of the buddy also another nice Canadian absolutely part of the buddy brigade loved playing and sixty four. I you know, what I know we all like mountain dew. So I got every kind of mount do they had? We're having a party boys about that. Shows up guys. I got it holds up a bunch of bags of taco X men came out everyone the buddy brigade was so excited. They all went to see it. And the pussies Pasi stood right in front of them. They were all drunk and Radin they're ruining the movie three. All right. Who's gonna go up and get the manager? We just wanna play XBox. You guys want to eat butter. Oh, shit tow for grace. Oh that have happened. He could've editing Star Wars. Yeah. He's there. He's got a sick fan at it of the of the Phantom Menace fight, and because he would be significantly older the older brother in all of this that they all kind of look up to there's two of them Elijah wood, Sean Astin to both of them. Oh that those dudes are fucking great. And they're constantly trying to hang out with them. But they're always a little too nervous to ask them to hang. I love the bunny brigade I would much rather. Hang kidding me. Ain't no second rhymes fellas. Guess what? They're going to premiere a new flavor of Doritos at the local supermarket tomorrow work raking tonight. And. A new Doritos for ourselves buddies. But we're going to leave money behind that. We know they know that we didn't steal it that we just wanted the dorito so bad boys. Let's do it. It's like almost the plot of fan boys that breaking into steel Star Wars, but it's gonna to go to the dorito ranch. The actual way. They'll get a week even before the store. The backup will leave. Triple the value of the bag of chips, just do the shop. Keep getting put out for us breaking in French cheese. Played the Reito's cut to the across town to the pussy. She's fucking. Shut up in their man. I'm trying to fuck and push off oddly both rubes pussy bus. But he'd be great. They both smell like cheese. Is now the question is because as we know all of these posses and brigades, right? You need a magician. David Blaine the pussy. I don't know if you've got a friendly magician fr-, I don't know if there's ever been a friendly magician. Jonathan little too old. Yes. A fucking Mamie about a friendly state singer, Josh Grogan. Okay. Yeah. That's what it is. You get a musician in their cabin good call replace magician with musician grove hanging out because you know, what he's got a set a pipe Silom. But he's also a fun guy. Sure. I mean within reason. Got the new halo. I've got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. And just to make this episode, evergreen. Yes. Okay. Maybe some of those guys have been metoo by now. Really good player Josh grove might have crimes against humanity. Yeah. I don't know. But you know, just saying this was recorded in twenty nineteen actually though hang on a second. Because if I recall, the big expose on the pussy positive correctly. They had a lady member. Okay. The woman from Roseanne Sara Gilbert. Okay. So that's a that. Yeah. I say, and I mean, find someone better Amy Adams. Oh, yeah. That's it. That's it. Yeah. That sounds right. And they've all politely never tried to make out with. Everyone is a crush outer. It was to act she's mostly the DND the designated driver. When everyone else has had too much root beer. You are shaking too much to drive the card. They'll thank you. I'll drive she was older than the rest of them. So she bought them all tickets to the new r rated horror movie, then came out that her boyfriend that only shows up every once in a while, Paul Rudd. Yeah. Def anyways. So like like, that's great. We go to alpha that no one's list. We could Alford believe his palace, which there's ostrich racing. She just what come I kind of liked this? Actually, I think that there is some real ostriches in here. I realized that was into that ostriches were harmed in the making of this film. But that CGI it wasn't like CGI Glebe glue now. Now, there's some real ostriches. They're there's also some Glebe glucose judges, probably a big whatever happens. They fight dotted outta they get away and knows the score. Like, don't don't you think. I know that your brother has a you know, I was a warrant out for your arrest up price on your head. And it will, you know, and they they escape basically. And his idea is I have to go to my very noble. Uncle Ben Kingsley who's totally not evil because I've never seen a movie before. And. The haven't been invented yet. That's a good point. Ben Kingsley as yours. Millions hasn't invented the. Maybe he should he should've seen like a puppet show before. Hey. Reminds me of this evil. We're going to go and sit we're going to see the new episode of Ben Kingsley. Judy. And whatever so he escapes. His father's funeral. But this is what I don't get. Sure, they leave the town go into this valley of the slaves or whatever. Yes. And then just go right back to the town, or it's a different town with a funeral taking place as I think it is a defendant because it's then like more Persian territory. Not what's getting buried in his hometown. You say like he's getting. Yeah. Exactly. He's not. He's not going to be buried in the city. They just sacked. Yes. So and the value of the slave thing they talk about also like alpha Molina played that up to make it a bad reputation. Right. When we're all actually, just nice guys. Where did the dad get murdered though? Where was that? I thought that the Homebase funerals happening mill alum. Yes. That was in the city that is sacked. You don't have to be buried right where you're killing. No. I'm saying I thought that the dad was back at the home town. No. No, no. Rolled up after the sack. I I see through himself apart. He got killed at the party. Storm. By the way, the valley of the slave thing. That's what made me think of share would forest because it's like this. Oh, yeah. Where it's so scare you don't wanna go there. But also should everyone's nice. They're speaking of Sherwood forest. Alfred Molina is very good taxes. He's a libertarian. All right. So I'm gonna live out the fucking middle of nowhere because I hate tack curse the idea of roads. Yeah. He's very much a libertarian. So like you do when you're trying to sneak back into your father's funeral to pass your crooked. Uncle a message the best way to do. It is to accidentally hop inside. Your father's hearse, which happens deuce, Jill, man. These your face to face with your father's fucking death mask, e who and he meets with Ben Kingsley. He notices the banking hands of been burned. Why? Oh why? Oh, when I was taking the robot of your your father as he was dying dust like I don't remember that shit. Oh, he must've fucking made the pope poison robe or whenever. What is the poison rogue just dip it in poison? Everyone is like I shit it to poison Rome. Fuck. Classic Persian mafia murder. I've never seen anything like this at all. Yeah. You know, my cousin went that. He had himself a poisoned robe, and then his lady cut his head off at least poison pants. That's pretty bad. What if it's like a powder like extreme type of itching powder to be. Yeah. Like anthrax kind of thing. Yeah. Maybe it's that wouldn't then everybody else around you dead. That's that's the funniest thing. Is that like there's the like when in the BUSTER Scruggs when he does this. And the dust thing comes up like there's a dust cloud. When the guy puts the thing on I was assuming everybody around him fucking dead to the thing is it's just like, it's it's it's like first responders for nine eleven they're gonna die. They had to they're not going to die right now. This is so it's not it's not prolong. Like, yeah. If you if you were just in the epicenter of that dose, or whatever. Sure. But like everyone else is going to breathe it in a few years. I the old time. So people are just like, well, you had a long life. You lived at three primordial anthrax. That's the worst kind. So you realize is evil. The movie moves on Ben Kingsley goes to get. Now. We reveal villain fucking obviously, by the way. Yeah. It's like he's starts twirling that mustache like fifty five minutes on this movie. I'm like movie, I was there that was frame one. This is what he goes to a stunt show, featuring these assassin people. Yeah, that's impressive. That's impressive. Because we're told that the king ordered this shutdown these like shadow was Sassoon's or whatever. Sure. But Ben Kingsley as the movie explains ordered it to keep going out keep it up. What if we were to come to a different odors? The brother of the king was actually kind of the king. How about that? Anything for you? I'm saying is Jeb has to be on board. There is a dagger shooting guy. That guy's pretty cool dagger shooting guy with guy whip guys through. Yes. Like shut up everyone else. Fucking snake guy, man. Wow. Objects that use as weapons this guy uses a fucking wild animal, right? Yeah. Everyone else has got the Dag. I it'd be great. If they kept going down in adamant objects like their share. Walking around with rattlesnake underwear. I wouldn't fuck with that guy. He is snakes under his sleeves of his shirts. It's amazing. You might love this movie. I tolerate this. I understand its flaws. But it's the new tomb raider is the number one. This is number two. I'm trying some new stuff. It's kind of changing my viewing experiences of these movies. I think I'm enjoying them more you've been reading the teachings of Buddha. I have no I have not. But what I what I've been taking really mellowed me out. What did? What did? Yeah. Those things are pretty good. It's a round here, by the way that Garcia. Toby Kebble is murdered. Well, there's this great thing in the Gary Gary bites dude, it's this great tradition with it. Only happens twice. I wish it happened five times where Jalen hall through all of his bad accent, finally convinces one of his brothers look on the right? I didn't kill dad. It was all evil uncle. And you know, what I killed every single time. You are right. And I'm gonna is he. Is he then blamed for that dude's death to this point? It's just. These dudes sack them. There's a fun ideas. Asan's right. Guys. They're thrown snakes that people and Kingsley right now is telling us he's like, by the way, dude, your brother DASS tin. He wants to stage a coup. He's gonna kill all of us. And he wants to be the king of Persia. I cut a love. There's this one scene. It's kind of in the middle here. When we're on the road where the snake guy, I attacks. There's a lot of cool snake death? Like Jerry Hall is cutting these snakes in half lengthwise fucking sideways. That's pretty awesome. So so Jake, Jalen hall semi gets the hell outta here. He finds Jim Arjun hiding out in the desert. She's like sleeping under a little tree. Yeah. And he's like all right. Hey, you gotta come back to the movie now out for like twenty minutes. You got to get back to the movie killing snakes. That's another assassin's. Creed thing too. That's that's tales. Kill snakes, man, they do that in the bible pitfall Atari do kill left. And right. What are they gonna depth that new movie? Right. It fall. There's I'm sure there's a treatment somewhere or even better a couple of fan films. Oh Hato for. Did. You finish are backing script on pitfall, man. Yeah. I think it's probably too. Do you think like five hundred pages too long for pitfall movie? I couldn't finish it because my sister is on the computer. Could you get off talking to your boyfriend? We can cut out the flashbacks to the Nixon administration. I'm. I'm gonna need you took it out there and take the pitfalls. Finds those gems or whatever the fuck it is, oh, you're going to get up on a concrete. You say you're going to go to your concrete fill in those pits. So no American can fall into a pit ever again. It's good stuff. I'm saying. It's Cambodia makes mix it. All right. Let's telfer. Listen. How about this man? Three words pits throughout ties. It's just a movie about different kinds of pets and people falling in it. You know, what's popular? Okay. You know, what pitfall into the pitfall verse? And we have several different snakes coming from different dimensions. Mr President dishes. Henry Kissinger to inform you that these pitfalls could have pongy sticks or other types of really activists. And it's just throws a script. It's called pitfall by the buddy regretted in the garbage. Send the seventies. Hey, this is a Hollywood executive talking. Do you think piss is an accelerated urinate to the garbage can and then throws a lit. Well. You can't produce a script by the buddy brigade. WG a rules won't allow it. That's true. One too many writers. So in any all friends, and we wrote it together. So all our nothing. Hollywood nothing again is pissing excel day. Do you wanna have some of the best pizza? Let's call up Little Caesars. Well, they are in Los Angeles. You know, what gentleman? I think I think I hear a golden eye tournament coming up. We're going slappers one killed. That's too dangerous. I stopped shooting. Dr. Oh, he's just trying to get his work done. No, jake. We're not doing prac- seventy minds again. That's stupid that stupid. Hey, boys. I think I feel a prank phone call coming up. Hello Little Caesars pizza slam. Let's call domino. Hey peak. So you gotta stop smelling the markers like that. Man. The buddy per gate doesn't do that shit man back to the pussy. Slipped seven days. She's still dead. Make played Razorbacks. Better yet. Make good pay who's covered by Roop. Fuck this shoot. Who's covered? The fight Peru bucking. It's lever. Now starting to debate which is worth. I always thought it was the pussy vase. Listen playing video games, right and bad fans. Crips eating pizza. That sounds pretty cool the life. I've led. Which is why it's bad. Yeah. That's a good. So somehow, they meet back up in the desert with Alfred Molina and his band of dude. And at this point, Jim Anderton is told him that this dagger when you get to where all the cool sand is it's gonna make it work. There is this tower of sand or something it's a big swirly container of sand. Art, if you stab it with the dagger, you can actually go back further in time. But if you go back to far in time, the world's gonna end from big sandstorm. There's a lot of stuff about the old gods new, and I don't care. It's hogwash. It's aguas. But basically this call this part of the movie. Hey, what's on Twitter? But apparently, Ben Kingsley's evil plan here. Ryan they were kids. They went out walking. Oh, sure. And there was a hunt with a lion. And Ben Kingsley saved his older brother from getting eaten by this line. But if you brother the king, if he doesn't do that he would have become king himself, and he kind of regrets decision. It's kinda like, you know, l Bundy going back to the. Football game days. You've already done it. You you killed him. You killed you this pointers hand mother fucker there's in killed everybody. But you would be the next in line more than likely other than j Jilin hall. All you have to do is kill Jake fuck and Tuss which. He just. He will die. But also, I think that Ben Kingsley's I don't wanna be a fucking seventy year old king for a year and a half right back to being a king prime. Fuck time. Exactly. Like seattle. Does it exist yet? Nothing's going on down there like not even by Agra the real tragedy. The dark age. Of this special sand for that. So we're camping desert, and this is where the awesome fucking snake attack happened. Yes. And Jilin hall sees what's going on. And he backs everything up. And he also remember this is like an annoying video game thing where it's like people who are really good at video games, like notice the patterns instantly. Whereas I have to die a thousand times. This is Jalen hall sees world, the snakes come from it once backs it up so he can like just flawlessly kill them. And there is one moment that is truly fantastic. He fucking holds out a torch. And the snake like goes onto the torch like slipping on fucking Jimmy hat, man. It's awesome. Wow. There's speaking of great. Speaking of action when Toby Kebble killed actually happens a little bit after that, whatever who cares. They steal the knife snake steals steals. He fucking side of. His best friends as fucking luggage makes snakes smuggling. What's read though is he doesn't like? You know, he's like a snake Souder kind of guy. He doesn't like enchant. This snake to throw it back up. He just cuts that snake open. It's the goriest part of the movie, which is unfortunate. But you just see like snake goods. So at this point there is the guy from the Baka tribe has to steal the dagger. He draws the short straw or something like, hey, you're in this movie. So he goes to steal the dagger from this throne room, he gets into a pretty cool fight with the guy that can shoot daggers. It's not like you throw daggers, I shoot him kind of a fight. And this was where just out of old curiosity. I decided to hit the pause button. We're talking like thirty five minutes left a lot of very wouldn't even stand it. He move out guy is dealing with this who looks like Richard bells earlier. Wow. Yeah. I never would have thought that. That's totally. There's your foes in Persian. Hit ya think. It's part of the bells averse as homicide principal. Yup. Absolutely x-files. Yep. All of it all parts of it tires and government doesn't want you to know that the moon is a space station, arrested development manse included in all there. It's all when are the munch verse? He he gets the dagger in his dying breath. He throws. It's a stupid thing. Where rose it it goes right into a tree, right? Throws out the window a south our sales like a paper airplane. Yeah. It should hit somebody in the fuck ahead vast. He's the best with knives. So even his dying breath. What he's not even looking at where he's thrown it. It's perfect. And and this is the line that hits a thud is alpha million, grabs the knife out of a tree and gives it the. Did I ever tell you about the Imbaba tribe and Jake Jones? Yes, you did. And it's like good care because he says it's sad because he's like see what they tell you about the of tried man. All right dude's, definitely dead saying it, sadly, we'll Scarlets dead. So now, let's go get the sheriff of Nottingham yong-chol. Pretty much. It's very Robin Hood, he convinces his is third and final brother that by killing. So he goes through his brother and confronts him in his throne room. And he's you killed our fathers, though, I didn't there's actually ankles. No way. What that guy even to believe? It is Ben Kingsley. Exactly. And to prove it. He's like look this life works. Let me show you this little button here at cetera et cetera. He stabs himself in the heart. Absolutely. This is taking in hard core. Man. He's like, you don't believe me. Here we go. We're going to hell tonight. But also, wouldn't you be like, oh, cool. My brother who's trader just kill themselves. What's for lunch? What they do says, though, he has some line where he's basically like oh fuck like he killed himself. He must be telling the taking it to the a red button. You gotta push it push the red button. Exactly what to be hospitable. What have you take? It is. That's very that guy. And then like he goes to the bathroom, and that it clicks buddies a lot and go to the bathroom and the shoe in Beck into. And there's a really dumb thing right here. What burns the purchase ends of time. So right before he uses before tusks uses the dagger jig, Joel has the whole explainer thing. Then right before this dudes going to do it. There's fucking voice over Jake. Jalen hall, saying the thing he said. Nope. Fourth at ten seconds ago. What come on Disney, and I know you have to do stuff for like younger audiences our audience at large, whatever. But seriously, how stupid do you think people are watching movie that you have to repeat of a line of dialogue that happened ten seconds ago? Great question, that's a really disrespectful to your audience is everybody paying attention. This is like the ninth time. We've pressed the button people might have fallen asleep by now. Oh, the Napper. I see. Waking up. He's like where Sesto that guy was my favorite through a knife out the window and died. Oh, what happens if you push that button that that's a whole movie? That's the Santa time is this movie stinks. Let's put on GoldenEye. The mayor of the golden gun. One cat kill dude. That's pretty kick. Don't say stinks. Nobody plays job. What are you doing? That's cheating cheating restart the level. We start the level. It was fucking cheated either. Everybody gets to be our job or nobody's odd job. Because that dude was short, and he could get you. How'd you buy a system and kind of have a weekend? Anybody? I mean, do why don't we do the buddy brigade for real? Have pretend. Why did twist ending? We are the buddy. You're in one. Better start learning about buddy brigade. So in any event this like, oh my God. Jake Joan all good back. Dude immediate throat cutting right there by Ben Kingsley. One slash. And that dude's pretty cool. Pretty good violence. Yeah. I like this new, and so Ben Kingsley goes down to the secret layer of the fucking secret sand. He this whole time has had some team excavating the shish shore, he to is in charge of it. All right, actually, what he finally gets the dagger. Like in this unique cuts. What's his face throat tosses throat, he crabs the dagger? And as he's leaving goes. Yeah. Yes. I did not sign up to go of the bells averse again. This actually makes sense. Because technically this is like a deep underground military base because these assassin dudes our military, Ben Kingsley's, kind of military escalating the secret technologies time travel sand glass as it's called just one big x files episode between this end the war in Iraq, very obvious allegory. There's stuff going on in prince purchase time. It turns out really saying there were no WMD's, but there were time travel device. That that they were hiding, and it was Dom brother the whole time every time. Randy hussein. Yeah, we killed. We killed a good guy turns out. They go down that. We fight snake guy in the final and somehow snake snakes turn against him. Like he gets bitten in the face by his own snake doesn't Andrew she's. She grabs it it is I feel like plus probably saw this guy mistreating others. Thanks, guys. Tries us that fucking torch like fucking condom condom snake ripped his cousin open just because he had a dagger. Yeah. Around here is where we get like the temples falling down all the sand. Video game ask OPEC. See this kind of fun. It's so stupid. How it starts though. Like Gemma Arkins like arch. Jalen hall, just following my footsteps because hey, did you ever see Indiana Jones in the last crusade? Exactly. Like you. Gotta walk exactly where I walk and no other part of the floor can be touched. And there's a fucking dumb moment of comedy here. We're big brick falls and Jake Jalen hawk catches it. And it's like who. And then like a looney tunes short. Yeah. A little pebble falls, and he can't reach it. And like this whole thing starts to shun Connor agos giove-a with an eye. So this is fucking surfing on this sand Arcor and all over the place. Listen park. Core is cool. When you use it once in a move. Yeah. Like casino royale. Coursing it's fucking great. When your whole movie is park core. That's a problem. You know, this Indiana Jones talks making me think like holy shit. You know for all this movie's Foltz temple of doom is the more racist movie. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. They eat monkey brains in that movie. Each your steak soup. Offend look what these people do married. I've sorry. Name is Willie. Whatever you call me girlfriend. You haven't met yet. Because this is technically a prequel. That's right. I'm I'm part of the pushy posse United forties. Errol Flynn Clark Gable? Jimmy, Stewart wouldn't take us up. He's part of the buddy. That's right. We're only the party precarity. We play board games to get played back again. I am Bela Lugosi, I am part of the pussy. I'm the I'm the talk and foreigner in the pussy. Pas. I love this. I love that. It's like like through time like skull. Gentlemen. It goes through out. Any event Dracula count as the magician or do you need like a nineteen forties magician Harry Houdini, dude, he was right? There was he he was probably dead by then by the forties. Maybe last gen like the twenties with John Barrymore. I think the elder statesman of the of the buddy brigade would probably have to be Spencer, Tracy. I think chaplain to maybe or was he was he a Poon hound all you fucked. His cousin right. Do you know what I mean? No chaplain was the dude that had like the innocent character the tramp at that, dude. Who's fucking drinking and smoking all through the night. Okay. All right. He's part of the pussy posse. Nice. Buster keaton. He was in the buddy guy. See? Okay. Okay. Maybe herald Lloyd, aero Lloyd was definitely in the buddy brigade. Yeah. The love interest of the modern day. But if you're gate is Maggie Jilin hall. Guys, stopped going after my sister. Man, we go again you wanna watch secretary again. Buddy. Boy, oh, she's related to you. That makes her even more sex delicious sex Alicia. Going through puberty twenty seven years old who else could ever be in the buddy brigade Devon saw. Yeah. Yeah. Big time. So any event there is a or there's a big fight. Between Ben Kingsley. What if any fights between Ben Kingsley all five foot three and seventy one years old and Chilin hall looks like fucking bane in this movie, dude? And Ben Kingsley is fucking handing Jake Jilin all his assets. And this fight scene. What are we talking about? And Jim Anderton falls. He catches. Jill catches her. This point is let me go. And this is like, you know, how this movie's ending if you so she falls Stewart death. Let's here's my question. So if you're like in this noble moment, where you're like let me go for the history. You know, what I mean like 'cause the world is going to end if this doesn't go the right way. I will let me go. Let me go. Let me go you go. Oh, you go any let's go and she screams. Like, it's a surpri. Listen, you're falling. The screen. All right. Here's the great guys. Who's the greatest way to handle that Steve put yourself in that position when you scream definitely DV dead four days. Austrid? You're right. It was like the running of the bulls. And Steve was tripled the death by the hanging out to face attorney. She is apparently she's braver than. Movies credit, which I'm doing a lot. I think this is your favorite move favorite of all time. No, I think it's good that they have heard die here because it doesn't fucking matter because we're doing time travel any kind of add the stakes and that's kind of start realizing, oh, maybe everyone's gonna live. So he puts the dagger inside the glass, we're going back and forth. Yeah. This is my question. So Jake Jilin hall. I guess knocks over Ben Kingsley at some point. I think that's the idea. Yeah. So he's the only one who travels back in time. Right. Not Ben do they both go. Only only hall heels. The only one that knows what happened in this guy adventure. Yes, we go all the way back to the second of element to your point those div like they're both sucked into this time tornado xactly. That's why I was confused. It also just goes back to this arbitrary like why here? Yeah. Does it make? Dan. Yes. One the first time she has the dagger. This is true. Because he's looking at it when when he comes back, I guess you only travel back to the point in time when you had the dagger soul lifetime, dude, it's like fucking but quantum leap. Yeah. So I'm so Ben Kingsley. Trying to become king of Persia doesn't make sense than either. Because when did he get the dagger? He never did how far can you travel back to? But if you wait, I guess, maybe that's not a thing. Maybe I'm just making that you travel back to win. That's why I'm saying I think it's just like this arbitrary point where they just backed the movie up, but if you wakes up in his bed before the whole movie happens and the plane engine goes in any way. All right. So how does that work like was what? Whereas the sister does mother even on that plan is all around us or millions. Happy birthday millions. No other wakes up crying or whatever happened. That's right, dude. Patrick swayze's getting arrested getting this, man. Cut off stead of the snake assassins that sparkle motion. That team. Also had snake? With girl. They were all there. So he he wants back into the south you've element right before this big party. He he speaks to this. This this raucous crowd. Like, Ben Kingsley deceiver, right? And we kind of fight. And like he kills Ben Kingsley. Pretty quickly and everyone. Cheers. Wait. Why? Maybe it's just they hated their boss of the whole time. Yeah. All of his brothers. Rob is still alive point. Yeah. Everybody hates them called med. And at the end of this movie toseh- like, you know, Princess Tamarine or whatever her name is to me. I was going to take you for myself. But actually since my brother was so cool about that whole thing just healed are out of nowhere. I don't know what what is going on. But you can marry the Princess. Yes. Pretty much pretty. Yeah. And then like they have some kind of knowing conversation. I think she knows he went back in time a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Because she's a guardian of the dagger. She knows it exists. I guess there's because he's kind of being weird. And she's like, oh if this being weird like that. I don't think she knows the score. I think she knows like something went down. Yes. 'cause this dudes being a little familiar best. Fuck I'm I think people confrontation with. Yes. Exactly. But I in that conversation with Ben Kingsley on the steps of the city. It seems to convenient that. Everyone's just willing to sell up and Kingsley after forty years of servitude. Yeah. It's very fast. They're seeing especially like, this is kind of his army to right, but like his loyal faction. Yeah. Did he doesn't even have like a parlor thing where he's like? All right, fine. Did try to fuck and do it era loser and year by brother, he just try to strike back and kill Jake Joel in this moment. So maybe that's the confirmation. But it still it just seems way too convenient like we're wrapping up the movie. Let's do it. Yeah. Totally right. This stinks of test audience. Like, we don't like the ending where the lady Di yeah. Can we have the ending where the lady does not probably fuck? No, first of all that definitely never happened because she definitely lived on the end of this movie because that's just bad fucking. Time travel's screenplay that this movie never had an original ending where she was dead forever. I feel like no way Kevin the whole fucking point of the movie is turning back time. Manhattan just felt tacked onto it's not tacked on. But it's bad, which is the same thing as tactile you're in one. You're in a bad time. You better start better stop believing in logic because you're in what guys that movie stunk. Let's put on on stranger tides jerk off under a blanket separate blankets, separate blankets a blanket. You're in. All right, fine. We'll play NC WCW NWEA revenge. But no one gets to be camera. Nash. We remember what happened last time that was unfair. Oh, man. He brought up the nations'. We agreed never to talk about that. And the brigade ever again Telfer's mom got so mad. Hey, guys, have your dish, wallet tapes. The best aren't they guy? Sorry, I got to leave early. But I'll see you dudes on Saturday at the third eye blind concert. Two two. Toot, toot, toot, toot. To take hold driving ninety thousand dollar car. He's using. Radio flyer money. We'll see in that movie. What am I thinking? Got a different movie about kids making shit wasn't allies one radio floor. Maybe. Also, one of the cooler elder statesman of the buddy brigade. Farts, man and the movies over with. Yeah. I hated it. When anybody recommend it? I'm closer to Eric in terms of this film. I think to Eric you're in. Tonight, we closer to your in one. Belly of the beast. No, I, but I still think this is forget -able in boring. But I think there's some high points. I don't think it's a hangover movie. I I will very soon forget this film. No, it's bad. It's really boring. There's like nothing to like. You know, there's no side quests video game movie. Yeah. And there's no like cool little let's do a little thing here. No. It's just like here's the story. You kind of know what the story is. You know, how it's going to fuck an end, boom. It's over the side mission of this movie. Is they watch an ostrich race. That's the one thought that was pretty cool. And that's and that's to get them. Fucking Alfred Molina as a soldier, right? Well, they. Yeah. Party up get the X people in. I'll just no I will lightly recommended, and I do think it's a hangover movie because you can fall asleep at any time, and you're fine. You wake up, you know, the score. The dagger goes the back of your, you know, you know, what what's happening, plus there's not huge explosions or bullets. It's it's a sword and sandals thing. So it's not gonna be too aggressively loud by the hangover. Yeah. I mean, I understand. It's not good. I would hope so I don't know what's happening to me. But yeah, I would say lightly. Yeah. Yeah. This is a hard. No. It's a hard. No, it's instantly forgettable, you know, it's a video game adept tation, man. And it's just it's tough for me to give shit already couple that with the fact that it's a sword and sandal inches, not my bag. It's a hard. No. For me. I would say that to murder is worse than this film. The two thousand one across agree with that. I think that's worse. I think the island is worse. I think this. You you having a bowel movement. Yes. It's the sound that he makes when he has a b m and when he tries to use his brain. Yeah. It's hard. I don't know. I at least the I don't like the two major movie either. But that with with these movies like I just have to gauge it on which held my attention longer and bat did okay. I don't know if it was like the bad fuck and techno soundtrack was Daniel, Craig. Mr. Alex west. Oh that is down Craig. Oh, yeah. The I think the island is a better movie just because it's the competent hands Michael bay. And Michael Knowles. Just kind of like, what are we what are you talking about the island for we're talking about video? I just said that this was better than the I'm sorry. But by the way, speaking of Laura Croft tomb raider that is our patriot episode this month, we talk about a lot of shit on their PS two a lot of gaming stuff. We talked our up the robber. Yes. Learned that was on the show that already we already recorded that episode. It was a lot of fun. So check it out on patriot dot com. We hate movies probably end the week or something something like that share. But that is prince of Persia coal in the sands of time from twenty ten directed by Mike Newell. If you want more we hate movies, check out that patriot patron dot com slash we hate movies. Now, this was only the first of several weeks listener requests month. So thank you again to Brian from Louisville for. Call on that one in and Steve Sadek this is rolling on. What are we talking about next week? What a movie that? I've never seen. I still haven't seen up to this point. It's a movie called vibes. Yes, sir. Jeff Goldblum and Dame, Cindy Lauper. That's right. This was a movie that was actually recommended to me like years ago when we first started the show really somebody was like, oh, you're doing a show where you're talking about bad movies. Have you ever seen vibes? And I was like, no. And that was almost ten years ago booking fives. I will say just a warning to the folks out there that like watching shit beforehand. This is a little hard to find understand your sleuth in hats on. Ladies, I think I read somewhere that it may. Or may not be on crackle own. I don't know. David Spade about it. Yes. Oh, no. I might be wrong. It might be the four of us sharing standard def DVD. Yeah. Because we can. That's right. I mean, otherwise just take our word for this movie. So until next week with vibes. Andrew Joop, Stephen say that Chris cabin Eric's. Take it easy. That was a hit them podcast.

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Brokeback Mountain

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Brokeback Mountain

"Right now on your will. Sarah chalk joins scott ackerman on comedy bang bang for some chalk. Talk plus meet an entrepreneur and someone from a dog rescue charity for more. Follow at your will social media. Happy listening the year is two thousand five. And what are you waiting for cowboy podcast. The movie brokeback mountain. Hello everybody and welcome to unspoiled. I m nicholson. I am paul. Scheer in this is the show where we are endeavoring to find the hundred best movies of all time and when we do we're going to blast them off into outer space right now. We are on a mini series called couple goals And we have really run the gamut. This is the end of our selections and next week. We'll be going into our audience selection. Which i'm very excited to announce if you don't know it already we'll tell you at the end of the episode but amy it's been so fun to kind of look at all these different couples and the way that these stories unfold that i really feel like you can fall in love so many times in so many different ways like i don't feel tired of this genre. I thought in the beginning of our. We're going to see the seem type of story and after watching brokeback. I'm like no it. Always the underlying architecture is there but the buildings always looked different. Yeah i think what we came up with the title couple goals. We both put imaginary invisible question mark at the end of it because it's like are these films about like perfect couples or are they just about like couples. That are doing things. Make mistakes grew up and films about couples that make mistakes i think are so compelling especially director doesn't feel like they have to tack on a happy ending. I love a romance. Where maybe at the end. They don't wind up together. I mean that's the story of most marantz is that any of us have ever lived right. Well i think we were talking about that idea of like you may have a profound effect on someone's life as a partner or someone might have a profound effect on your life as a partner but they may not be your life partner and they may not be the person who is perfect for you but yet they they got something from you or you gave them something or you worse something with them and i feel like that is that i think of romance. We always are looking to. Oh what what about that. I wish i would have went down that not that you are longing for like i want out of something but i thought we. We collect these little stories of love throughout our entire lives. You know. it's kinda cool that we we also probably have very different relationships. I know it's silly to say that out loud. But i'm thinking about it right now to go. Yeah well every relationship. I've been has been incredibly different in yet. They all. Are you know the same structure but the buildings at different mean. Some of my favorite people are my ex's people enter your life and if they are a positive person not a toxic person. they're person who like introduces you to food or a country or a place like valuing that relationship. But i wish we could. We reclaim our exit a more gentle way. If they're worth it if they're not worth it screw him but if they are who at life i love the idea of kind of just having there be more of a family of xs. That sounds insane. I guess you can have a family of access. But what am i saying. I don't know what saying. I think certain of my and if you're listening hi i'll take the opposite point of view and so you don't have to bring them back into your life because they may have been there for a perfect period of time and then they're gone you know it's sort of like this. This fleeting thing. I don't think you have to surround yourself with those people because they may have helped you grow. They may have taught you that you need to grow without them and they're not the person that you need to be around there silman and even the toxic relationships. I think actually help you become a better person to be in a relationship with Let you kind of bring a little bit of self care to yourself. I think there's a lot of you know. I am on the other side of that camp. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be friends with their access. If you if that works out great. I think it's tricky because i'm always under the idea that well if you are rejecting this person or that person's rejecting you do you maneuver it. I don't know. I think there has to be a level of like protection or caution there on some level like just like you know you may be able to be friendly but you can't really go that deep with them again because i don't know maybe you can now. You may to be trolling. I wanna say like win. Quarantine is over. Maybe i'll just pick a day pick a bar if you're my ex come by. Let's get a beer. Let's all be friends. Sure have something in common still and they must all have something in common with each other if we all got along at a certain point in time flee bear each other. I'd still love know disagree with you because you were a certain person when you met them. But anyway i. But i digress remarkably consistent paul. It's kind of scary by the way. I actually do believe that you would be a good person to be friends with after you feel like. That's your personality. Has that embedded in it. I mean as the utmost compliment. I feel like that's a really a good personality traits able to do that. Oh that's so kind. But i i was a when i told myself i no longer had to be friends with certain access. My life did get better for a while. I've prided myself on. Always being with my. There's a couple fuck it fuck it and by the way it's okay he's okay. Well this relationship is i. Guess it's interesting conversation. Talk about these people that we keep in our lives that we may keep it. Arm's length this film is really about lack of commitment to someone whether it's the societal norms or whether it's just really something that's going on person i want to kind of break this down to you so without any further do amy i mean. Let's jump on our horses and on school it. That's supposed to be a cheap i. I was trying for something. And then i felt like i might belittling the movie by doing anyway. The year is two thousand and five. George w bush starts his second term. He authorized government wiretaps of us citizens and makes it nearly impossible for people with debt to file for bankruptcy. Hurricane katrina decimates the south flooding roughly eighty percent of new orleans and killing over one thousand six hundred civilians the oregon supreme court nullifies over three thousand same sex marriage licenses issued in two thousand and four. Deeming them to be unconstitutional pope. John paul. the second is tony. Blair's elected for his third term and implements the civil partnership act which grants civil partnerships including sex partnerships the same rights and responsibilities civil marriage and the hot movies include harry potter and the goblet of fire crash star wars episode. Three revenge of the sieff. And today's film brokeback mountain. Amy who's responsible. Who's in it who directed it. What's it about brokeback mountain. It is directed by angry and adopted from a short story by annie proulx. It is a story of two men who fall in love one wyoming summer as they might a flock of sheep and they grow up together but they also mostly grow up apart Jack is played by jake jilin hall and he wants them both to get their own ranch and live their lives but ns the quieter and more inward of the to play by heath ledger. He just can't do it you wouldn't. Ns was a kid. He knew a man who got tortured and killed for being gay so he decides to stick with his own wife and kids and because of that choice. A lot of people in. I've still get damaged in this film. Michelle williams and in hathaway play the women in their lives and you cannot watch this film and not be odd that this cast is all under twenty five years old under twenty five interest. Exploding with talent and promise. Let's listen to a scene right. We ought together. Find yourself someplace different. Maybe texas sure. Maybe you can convince. Alvin ended up hills. We can just live together hurt and cheat and it'll rain money from melody. Newsom whiskey will flow in the street tack room smarter. Wanna leave your miserable fucking life. Go right ahead on. I was just thinking out loud. You real thing to bear. God damn spoken to. I mean gosh. I can't even say exploding with potential because in brokeback already. All amazing in brokeback came out. On december fifth two thousand and five with music world was nuts for the debut single of a sixteen year. Old kid who also seemed to have great things in store the number one song when this movie came out it was by chris brown and the song is run it maybe and well amy. You know we were talking about this last week. I haven't really thought or talked about brokeback mountain. Since i think two thousand and five and looking back on this film before i put it in again was like wow. This movie was so important in the sense that it had these chew very attractive. Straight men Playing these parts. And i think to culture in general that's always a moment where people take notice right where they okay and we're at a time here in in the country where you know gay rights and gay marriage is at the forefront and in the world. That's going on as well and i think this movie in many ways fell into a bin of a joke punchline. Like brokeback mountain. I remember like seeing robin williams even going around like doing a lot of jokes about just like guys fucking jokes was nothing like mean-spirited but it was sort of like this movie did get kind of i dunno pumped into this idea of like. That's what movie is or something like that my wrong on that or that's at least my interpretation of how this movie kind of gets a culturally held up to a certain degree no. I don't think you're wrong. I think in today's venus came out. People were really uncomfortable. with grappling with it talking about it and it was sort of easier to make it a joke. I mean this movie became a punchline. Like right after it came out. I mean the very next year scary movie four. Did their own brokeback. send up. oh looking. I can see it in your smile your own i ever open. Why because you know just what to say. And you know just what to do. And i wanted to tell you so much i love also because you know youtube and everything was like brand new around this time people were using brokeback as a way of like re cutting other movie trailers to make them a brokeback joke. Have you ever broke back to the future. Oh yeah one hundred percent terming. No this is my dark dark brown. You sent me a letter who that was love. You and i don't wanna see you anymore. You ever been in a situation where you know you had to act a certain way. But when he got there he didn't know if you go student amy it even was a part of knocked up that was cut out of the film. Listen to this fundraising lee. Thinks he is man. I mean you make supposedly no pro gay movie and you don't show one guy getting homer the whole movie man you know. What am i fucking six years old. I can't see goggin sucked off by another guy. I'm gonna fucking kid. I could take an ing. I'm a realist man. I like to see real shaped building down. I see two gay guys in the ten and brokeback bound. I wanna see a fucking sixty nine. I wanna see an asshole eating out you telling me that shit doesn't go down. Jones mouth is practically watering the whole movie. Show something mary. I love it. Were starting out this conversation this way because going back and looking at clips from this time period it felt a little bit like time travel to go to two thousand five and see how people talked about this. I mean let alone people not seeing like the act of love in full in this film. They win. They showed clips and trailers of it online. They usually cut out the part where you see an object kiss like they didn't even want to show the actors kissing like even in media. That was really promoting it. Like i was watching oprah episode and oprah took a lot of flack for like cutting out a bit where they kissed in the film even though she was having an hour to try to support it you hear the way that she talks to dig jila and heath ledger in the whole movie from the very beginning is framed in like. Are you worried about this hurting your career. Isn't it awkward. Reassure everybody that you like women jokey brohi will. Don't you think that like part of the narrative movie was that. Oh this is the movie where heath ledger met michelle williams and they fell in love. I mean that's the other thing i know about this movie. I mean i know a lot about the movie but like that was the narrative i mean and to talk to what you're saying like the utah jazz owner utah jazz Larry miller he pulled the film from his entertainment complex in utah. A suburb of salt lake. Because he was like you know what this homosexual content is a danger to family values. And there wasn't idea where this was. I think in many respects because it wasn't safe and it was so plain and it's a movie that is really a romance. It really is about this love between these two men and while there are these elements of how they have to live their lives. There's something really scandalous about it. So in a way. I think we had a time embracing just truly watching this relationship because they they consummated in the first twenty minutes and then my mind is that doesn't happen way in the film notes right at the top. I mean to your point. I kinda wanna even just play a little bit of the oprah clip. Because i found it really frustrating to listen to because the one thing they don't talk about is the actual like love and romance like the actual meat of what the movie is about and what their relationship is about never gets talked about because it's all about the actors being awkward. Let's not let's keep talking about it really secure about yourself to do a movie about Two gay men in love and then not worry about being typecast. I'm sure when you first read the script that must have crossed your mind. Oh yeah. I heard that it was a gay cowboy movie. I really didn't want to have anything to do with it. I was sixteen years old at the time really. Yeah so it had been around script have been around for years so i finally heard ainley was going to do it. I read the script and it was really the most beautiful story to ever read love story and i could not do it and i didn't really cross my mind at all and you. I think there was a certain level of Anxiety and there were fears and the risks blade into my initial reaction. Then that kind of disappeared announced just left with this beautiful story felt important and it felt like a story that never been. Put the screen if we knew the response to the movie to before we did it. I think either probably done it. I just don't know if we knew that it would have become what it's become and what it's meant for a lot of people really you know you have to go and you have to jump into it and if you're thinking about a response from people while you're doing it there's there's no way you can do especially something no one's ever gonna see it to allow yourself to kind of expose yourself and be vulnerable and yeah especially the stuff that we we do. I i say exactly right like this is a movie about a relationship. It's not a movie about kissing. It's not a movie about like your first time with this person. It's a movie about like. How do you keep a person in your life. How do you stay connected to somebody in the deeper emotions of this relationship. Not the physical. So the fact that so much of the conversation concentrated on the physical's really frustrating while and. I think there's always this idea. And this kind of back to the point that i was trying to make before and i as i'm just going to say it and forgive me if i'm stumbling or or not seeing it right but there's like you know while one of the characters does die and is killed. This movie isn't really about that. It isn't about like a one of them gets aides or one of the you know. It's it doesn't play into the truck. It does and doesn't and i think that that is a tricky thing in this point for people to deal with and now we have things like love simon and you know there's so much more openly received. I think we've matured. We've matured in these. You know sixteen years in a major way in thank god. We haven't but we're talking about this when we were talking about the promising young woman episode. They early. Two thousands was really. There's a lot of misogyny there and you know and thankfully we have matured since then. I'm happy that we're there but it is interesting. This is really the first break of the of the wall. I think in many respects where it's out there for everyone to kind of be uncomfortable around or not everyone but majority of people. Yeah i mean. I'm really glad that in your year effects you brought up about oregon canceling marriages. 'cause i think that's important for me to kind of remember so i can feel. More charitable about the empathy gap. That feels like is lacking between twenty five thousand five and today. It's it's hard to remember. How uncomfortable topic of gay marriage fell back. Then you know in in the public conversation. It feels like this film kind of entered as almost like this kind of i. Dunno saber. like there's this big divide between like the critical reception to the film in the public jokey reception to the film in that critics. Love this film. I mean this was brokeback was like hands down. The most awarded film that year across the board. It's actually the first film to win. Best director the kadam awards directors guild best director bafta best director golden globe best director and critic's choice best director. Louis best to crash crash. People interpreted as the academy choking and not being willing to award it. I remember being at an oscar party and when they said the word crashed the entire room stood up and started screaming like thirty five people who are all eating pigs in a blanket par for the course with the academy awards and picking these pictures. I mean i feel like that's why you know when it goes the other way like when hurt locker wins over avatar pike. Wait oh wow. It worked the right way you know. Sometimes it doesn't always do that it. It kind of goes with the popular choice and winning over lala land exactly right. Yeah i mean gosh. Even i mean even just the gap between that makes it clear. How much cup since brooklyn i hope for. I mean in your narrow way that we measure social progress being the oscars which is kind of maybe the weakest way but it at least at least there's a change you talked about a little bit before about spear and look i'm sure there are people gazed orleans Film critics that. Know more about this me. But i also believe that like the beginning tip of this gay culture into mainstream i believe starts with like will and grace a major network show in nineteen ninety eight and that's a while before this movie comes out and it just getting people comfortable with that show doesn't touch it's very sitcom it's not like you're not it's like you're gay but we're not going to really go there go there but yet it gets people comfortable but this is a movie that i think because of the leads it forces attention like i remember. There was like a movie like patrick. Stewart and jeffrey and there there are obviously tons of work out. There you know written starring gay actors and writers and the shaving success. Like i remember seeing these films but i think something about these two actors who are viewed in many respects as like sex symbols. You know doing this part like forced it into the mainstream in a way that nothing else could like that was like. That's what got a lot of people's attention to like. I mean and it's a beautiful story but i feel like that's why people are talking about this movie. Yeah and you know it's interesting to kind of look back at how hard it was to get this movie made in just a few years leading up to it. I mean the original short story came out a year before matthew shepard was killed and you know people knew there was power in the story in that it needed to be told and yet every time. They tried to push it forward. The main problem was that they couldn't get actors to agree to it like actors would sort of say they might do it and then back out and then say they might do it and then back out and i think one of the stories like when i was first talking heath ledger. He was like listen. This part is actually castrate now. But i have a feeling this person also drop out and if they do apart as yours but the fear. That was involved which i mean. I don't want to put the weight on the actors like when you see actors be that scared to me. It means that these actors are under a lot of pressure from their people and with their hearing and like being told. If you do this will ruin your career. And i think it's always like an evidence of all the below the waterline tension that see. There's also a time where i think people are nervous. You know to to to be open about their sexuality you know for fear of it drying up all the work. Could you see these gentlemen. Gentlemen could you see these men in another film where they were playing heterosexual after this. I don't i think that's probably the fear. A lot of these actors. Have i mean you. Go back to the sixties and paul newman. Rubber redford were both asked to play a gay couple and they're like no no no. We're not doing that and you have people who are you know being very successful in in film and not wanting to address that part because i think that the hollywood system can eat them up the only ones that are safe before this movie comes out. Are these movies like the birdcage right. And we all are safe with robin williams. And it's a big goofy. It's you know it's not a game playing it. We know who he is. But it's it's like a stereotype of a gay man then yet like to wong foo or you know. And that's not you know that's that's a little bit more of like this. You know this like drag culture. Yes but there's like this deeply love. Actually that's a great movie but not a movie. That is mainstream right. Like i'm talking. You know so. It's like it's a very bold film for ang lee to make for these actors to make and the way that they told the story and it's not an i guess it goes back to my original point. It's not melodramatic more than a romance. This is a romance film. And it's a beautiful romance film. Regardless of anybody sexuality it adds a layer to it but the story is told very much the same way that you would tell a story about. You know you could see this movie told about you. Know maybe a couple of having an affair as much as you can see this. And obviously there other elements. I know but but i think that. That's that's what makes us movie a little bit more scary and makes it more you know To the public at this point. Yeah you're laughing at it. Oh and i just remembered a two of the actors who turned it down and this is back when the movie was Option by gus van. Sant he's gonna make it and He reached out to i. Think matt damon and joaquin phoenix and both of them backed out backed out. Which is you know. i'm not calling them at all. I'm just sort of calling out the fear that i think was in the climate at the time. Well i mean in any pru like she was even like shitting on. Phelps seymour hoffman. What he didn't capote that's less skill. Then the actors and brokeback mountain. And i think it's the idea of maybe. We're both kind of think searching for this character cody because like that. That's philip seymour hoffman. Be he leads her for the oscar. Yes yes and and i think this is like we're going from caricature to actually realized character. Right i feel like it's you can't hide. These are real people or they are as real as anybody else's in this film. And and i think that that's you know again just kind of breaking it down a little bit that that's something there. There's something so realized about both of these performances. And you know it's like made me miss heath ledger so much. 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As you watch jake dylan house. Kinda drive up heading to randy quaid's like sheep trailer or he's going to get his sheep trailer job and he's like making these. He sees heath ledger also waiting for a job. And there's just this like awareness that maybe going only from like jay jilin hall to heath but like jake is kinda looking at him in the mirror staring at him trying to get a sense of and you know from the beginning that heath is the guy who just gonna keep themselves hidden like. He's hiding under his hat as much as you can and like not making contact not being a guy who's going to like talk so much like a meet cute as like a meet vibe. Like they're picking up taylor's vibes when he shaving and looking at them and i was trying to pick. If we didn't know anything about this movie. How am i reading the scene. It's impossible to look at that first scene and not bring something to it you know but like there is something with you know immediately. Jake john hall really enters in the complete opposite of heath ledger. You know he's you know the way that he's shaving right out there. He's he's doing private things publicly and not that shaving is a very private thing but you know he's not afraid to show himself versus other character. I also wanted to say when we get to it. I wanna compare and contrast The open in the end and that wide open of the open and the very small of the end. But i i love this introduction to them. And i wanna also just caught one more thing and say god dammit. If randy quaid didn't go crazy What would we be getting from him because he is fucking great like he's a great actor and i was having conversation with my friend about this. As he is a person that right now would be cleaning up. I feel like as like an all great independent movies. People be loving him but this is kind of the beginning of randy. Quaid going nuts two. You've heard about this whole story right now. oh okay. This is wild. Randy quaid sued focus features. He said that this company misled him into thinking that this is a low budget arthouse film with no prospect of making money. He saw it as a ruse to get him to lower his salary at the time the lawsuit the film had earned one hundred and sixty million dollars. In quaid dropped the lawsuit may seemingly after focus agreed to pay them a bonus however focused denied that any payment ever took place They said that the circumstances of him dropping the suit ours mysterious the circumstances under which he filed the claim. Just like the beginning of randy quaid. Just being like. I didn't get paid enough. Hit like if. I knew it was gonna be a hit trick me more. But that's i mean in that part of the whole independent film. I mean like you don't know you don't know nobody thought ahead so he doesn't do that much as a couple of but they are very good. I mean let's do kind of talk about what he expects his men when they go out to take care of his sheep now. What i want is camp tender stand main camp with four services that the herder gonna pitch a tent on the t. with the sheep and he's going to sleep there each supper and breakfast camp but you sleep with sheep percent no fire. Only they'll sign your own at ten every morning case for service around you know what i love about how. He's kind of setting up for these men. He's the randy creek character is basically telling jack and ns you guys are going to go out there and be like a fake family. You're going to set up a little fake home. You know you're gonna set up camp you one of us going gonna cook one of gonna tended the sheep you need to put on this pretense of taking care of your family your family being like sheep and he sets these two off to kind of deliberately live a fraudulent life. And that's what really hit me about watching them. Go out into the wilderness of brokeback mountain. For the first time. It was like watching them kind of like. I'm the strong guy carrying this baby lamb. I have this baby lamb tucked into my backpack. You know this kind of shared mission and shared home thing that they're doing together. They've reliant on each other. I mean even the way that they talk to each other when they're like out in the tents they're having spouse conversations complaining about food complain about the commute. I'm commuting four hours a day. I come in for breakfast. Go back to the sheep even getting better down come in for suffer. Go back to the sheet. Spend half the night checking for damn kyle gear you no right deuce having so much fun in dc. Well let me ask you this. What do you think they're history is before they are before they physically connect. I mean i think. Ns has no history like they're talking about sin right it he's like i've never done anything that is because he just hasn't had any chance to like he's lived his whole life alone and bouncing around. Yeah but the way that he attacks. That sex scene feels like he. I don't know there's something about i was like. Oh you know. I don't know if it is the fantasy of or what he like. I guess maybe. In my mind i thought he was like a virgin. But then when i watch it i don't think he is but i don't know it's interesting. I like jake. John hall's character is aware no or because again we're talking about is in the sixties right. And and i think jake's character is at unlevel comfortable with being gay right like he understands who he is and what he wants. I don't think that he's falling into it. I think he's the one that really motivates the relationship. But then when you look back and you go. Oh here's he fighters character he. I think there's a part of you that goes. He knows who he is. But he's hiding it and because of his dad telling him that story when he was a kid and seeing that man you know who was just brutalized. Let us know that story. Actually these two old guys ranch stuff together down home girl and ranch a joke town even though they were pretty tough. Old bird found earl. Dead and arrogation ditch tyron spurred him up drug around by dictator off nine years old. My daddy he made sure me and my brother helpful now. Don't job you have this. This this person who knows they can't be who they are but i was wondering had he never done it before and i don't know i don't know what the answer is. I just wanted to see what you thought you think that. That was his first time. I think so. I mean i don't know if this time with any person but it seems like he has like a sweet old fashioned relationship with obama before they get married. I don't know if they're like going off into barnes before they got married so maybe but it is it that hard to figure out. Maybe this is again. My hetero normative point of view of so he just seems to really take control and i think in an idealized and maybe fictionalized pieces of cinema. The virgin is not the better right like even though like jim jones character like pushes it forward. I i was so that mindset of me was just trying to think about like a what this characters done so that was the thing that was different to me. Not that you know. Oh i wonder. Because i think i always thought the same thing like jake is the more comfortable with himself. He's been there and he's like leading them through but it wasn't. It didn't necessarily play that way to me. When i saw but again i have no idea i. I'm coming from a extremely hetero point of view on this. let me. We can compare lisa love and basketball scene where it feels like. Here's a here's the person who's done this before. Ushering person gently and that isn't what happens here. I mean there is like an unspoken communication that happens with them in that scene. That feels like it's building off of everything we've seen before like even even just the way like they ushered out of randy claes office like he gives them a look and they know that means to leave like there is something in the kind of silent way. They walked through the world where they're incredibly observant people who communicate non verbally and cowboy right. It's yeah cow by that idea of a cowboy like this kind of you know they have all the aspects of what you know cinema to paint a cowboy s you know slinging style silence sturdy you know and that's what i love about how this movie i think back dates the cowboys we've seen in the past. We've seen a lot of movies on this show. There's like those strong silent loner cowboy movie archetype right. I mean that is like one of top ten american archetypes and then to get to know keith. And why his characters alone and so silent not talking. It makes you almost imbue those characters with a deeper backstory. Like who have they you know loved just like the little missy back at home at the cabin that got burned when john ford was like spots. Burn it and we're gonna make it crazy. It's almost like the life that you see in his settle for like deepens the movies of the past and i love it when you get snow character that kind of adds life to characters. Maybe didn't even have it but it makes sense. But here's the thing. What do you think makes that. So why what you're saying so true is because we see the joy and the playfulness of this relationship blossom. You know when randy quaid is spying on them not spying on. Let me just happens to catch them. In this moment they are so playful with each other and they are so sweet with each other and other moments. The film that the facade is dropped and it's a different facade than the way you see heath alma like when he's on the couch drinking the beers watching tv and she wants to go out like there's there's still that cowboy arctic and. I love what you're saying like. Oh let's go deeper but these characters are capable of that playfulness that love that tenderness and we see it so when you don't see it. It's almost more shocking. Aw what is what's going on here. Like what and. I think there's a moment in it this film that really like i just love it so much when he gets the first postcard from From jig john hall's character and you see him get it and you don't know what the reaction is going to be and you seem right and put it in an c that he just writes you bet and that you bet i like words of never popped off a page more. There's so much joy and you see the way he walks out of that blake. There's so much love there that i think it it. It really paints the other side of the film in such an interesting way. I mean just kinda fascinated by the whole thing. I think it's like. I think that we are talking about that. Inner life versus her life but we get to see them in two very unique ways. I cannot agree more. I mean that we see him light up and we see that late fade. I mean to me. That's like one of the heartbreaking things about his relationship with alma is almost working at the grocery store. Ed he comes in at the kids. He doesn't know what conduct its our. I love that her here. She's in the condiments up law catch and he feels absolutely fine. Like leaving the kids with not caring about her not caring about her job not worrying about her work not respecting her but then immediately when it's like oh he can go out fishing with jackie visiting jack lake. He doesn't care desert like he was. He's willing to take risks with his work that he wouldn't do for her like. Ns puts jack in his priority of like well above alva ito in mid. Let's her know she is second best. Like let's see that he is only lit up for this other guy and it's like when she gets a glimpse into the light and the love and the joy he's willing to give to another person. Her world seems even darker. It can more heartbreaking than realizing the person you want to make happy more than anything else in the world gives their happiness to somebody else can have their happiness to you and she gets to witness the lack of consideration. He has for her. I wanna talk about that scene too where he gets to the fight during the fourth of july by the way. This movie is breathtaking. Beautiful in every way but the that's fight scene and his mind you feel like he is doing it for her but he's not doing for her and that's i think that she's still kind of repulsed. By that moment he is living with this or at least the way i read. He's living with this anger and like he wa he is he's raging inside and And i don't think he would ever do take that out on all my think he like. I don't even think he respects agrees that i don't think he respects her. I think he. I think that jake gyllenhaal and anne hathaway have a better relationship then alma an ns. Because i feel like she like knows who she is. She's doing her thing. Boom boom boom. Like not to say that. She doesn't deserve love but they are. They are agreeing on what their relationship is to a certain degree whereas almo i think is always chasing it. What this movie does so beautifully. Is it cuts to it. Cuts to all those points immediately like okay. They meet twenty minutes. They they they have sex. She comes jake. Joel comes to meet heath within two minutes or thirty seconds even almost catches them kissing. This movie is lean out the suspense. Like oh she found out yes. It's right there when you know that you're married to somebody who's second best. Yeah yeah and it's interesting. Because i don't think this movie is that over. The top in its criticism of america like visually trying to think things like george scott in patent like yelling in front of the american flag. Like it's not it doesn't usually go there. It's more just pragmatic like this is how it is. It's not great. This sucks but this is how it is like. There's a flat footed nick to the way that it criticizes american morality in priorities except in that fireworks which it pops because this film otherwise. I don't think does it kind of like visual metaphorical storytelling in that way of like. Here's the here the fireworks and it's incredibly patriotic. And here's the wife cowering because her husband is terrifying her it. There's a it almost feels like a bit much like it's beautiful can really feel like an kind of swinging for the fences further than he does interested in the rest of the film which is so restrained will because i think what that scene does in correct me. If i'm wrong is it underlines that she doesn't know him right because what. I think she's seen of him up until this point is this kind of sweet garage and tog passengers. We you know quiet in this and so that moment is like whoa. Who is this. Who did i marry with. this is true. What else is true. And i think that that's something that a lot of people feel like when you see your partner do something that is so uncharacteristic. That's i've always. I mean i'm a big believer and i mean so many people going to disagree with me but i don't care. I always believe that you shouldn't marry anybody until you know them for a year. Because i feel like you can understand somebody like a year. You'll see a whole cycle of their life And then hopefully they'll always been new things to pop out but you know you gotta let the guard go down to a certain degree And i feel like that in that moment what we're seeing is. Oh i've now. I'm in with this person. I'm just seeing this side of him. And i don't know where that's coming from because it wasn't even really directed at them he just. He went out looking for a fight. The same way that like joan all goes to mexico looking to get laid. He's looking to get into a fight. And i mean in in like they that scene when he does it to the guy in the cab of the car that such. That's how he deals. He's gotta keep it all locked up he can. He can't let it out as he's looking to feel something he's looking to get hurt. He's looking to punish himself. He's looking into like the lion even in their own relationship between like love and aggression gets blurry punch kissed punch like sometimes in the same seat which ended in a way. Part of that is so universal. I think also relationships i mean. I don't know if you in junior big wrestler's wrestling relationships. Are you like to kind of be. Like i'm gonna fight you off. I mean it is kind of blurry so in sometimes with them. It's like extra blurry and then you have like heath just like throwing his body on the pyre of this movie like getting hurt in that cab. Seen like he gets really hurt. This talk about it. i'd hit a brick wall with my face. And i just by the end of the day i just had blood tests and now my hand and The other time. When i had to get beaten up outside a pub i'll to fight with alma in the kitchen and go. I smack a guy through the car and he drives me to the ground. The stuntman actually paid. Let me hit him in the head and he was like an ex hockey players hit him in the head and we're just like crunched broke his nose but he didn't even know and then he just dragged me out of the car actually really kicked him and that was actually that was the last night shooting so they just said go for the idea that they hired a stunt man and then got the stuntman to agree. It was okay to hit him as hard as they could like. They're basically paying you to be a ufc fighter stuntman. And the guy gets his nose broken like why that is. I could do that. Actually i didn't. I didn't know that was actually okay. You can pay somebody to say like can break your nose. Heavy this dark like is it that we would do. But don't you think it like like the harrison ford and air force one story. My friend is andrew berkeley Great actor a fantastic character said nancy air force one Twenty four walking dead and you know he was doing this fight with with Harrison ford on air force one of the main bad guys and harrison ford gay. I know how to fight and just fucking cold clocked them in the face and broke his nose like that to me seems like overzealous acting. Like i remember. I was doing a panel whereas hosting big fan lost him. Dim lindelof asked me to host the ten year anniversary of the show and it was really a fat. We're at the kodak theatre really fun. And i remember talking all the different characters about the actors about like their characters and what they learned and one of the actors always remember he said to me. He's like always be wary of young actors. Who are trying to act. Because that's when you'll get the most hurt and it was The johm freeing his name right now played. John locke on the show And he was like yeah he got. I got a rib broken nose broken by an actor who's like i'm acting now and i feel like that that senior anyway all long way to go to say that i think that that sequence may have been like i'm in i'm so in character then the fucking break your nose and i've had that experience happened to me like with but not like i to do a bunch of stunts on the show and then you'd see some but i i i noticed. Throw it but you know it's such a controlled thing but that's such that that fight is so small it's small spaces big swings but anyway my thought is that he got into the role. We blame that on a historical legacy going back to montgomery cliff. If your heath like you grew up i'm sure. Worshiping like brando and dean. I haven't looked that up. But i kind of feel like i don't have to write. Can i just say that. I feel like that's probably true Like living character. I mean that was part of. I think a little bit. There's a tiny bit of strife on this. At between heath in jack dylan because jake really loves to improvise and he was like i am in this character. I'm not coming out. Like i'm not coming out of my lines. Like these are the lions. I'm saying either. Like and he was just living like he was living really really deep in it. I mean i think being one of our top two greatest. Lhasa's in philip seymour hoffman. I mean oh late to lose both of them. The third chadwick in there too and chadwick enter your as he met them just because of that oscar showdown lake. They as they model. You know the new actors. It's like e keep kind of picking up like the techniques of the people you love and where they picked it up from it. It kind of unbroken lineage of like to act is to get hurt. We'll and and i think by the way three things i wanna hit on first of all ang-lee said if he made this movie in the sixties he would loved it to be. Paul newman among rick. Lift as the to cowboys. Didn't take it. This movie is very pretty Story that like. I think it's paul newman. In james dean think it's the had a threesome with earth a kit and all. I want life antic weekend. Just how i love that to me. They're like the biggest problem is who do you cast to play them. Like who who could be them. Honestly i think it has a thompson really earth. A kipah who the fuck is going to be. Paul newman. oh but you don't wanna see it. I don't think you want. I don't they don't think it's like one night in miami. I don't think. I don't like like i love it as legend i loved. I don't need to see like. I don't know if the conversation was great that weekend. You know what i'm saying. Like i i don't know if they're like. I just think there are some hardcore fucking going on there. And that's great and i never need to know but it's like that's a great great fun time for those Those peeps but now that they had deep conversations that you'll agree right. We should make. I will say that. I do think that that improvisation that jake brings to. This role is actually really great for the film because he needs to be a lot more light on his feet around in. It's like ns is in. The like innis is the tree right and jake is showing come. Let's do this. Let's he's constantly trying to break him out of it. And i think that that that yin yang while it may have irritated heath. It's kind of what you see in the thumb. It's that push pull of the two of them and there is a respect there but they are living. They are different characters. Like jake joel. Isn't the cowboy that innocence these not. He's he's a different energy and you would cut later onto the film and he is like j. jaylen house party and he's wearing like a black leather. Cut it like jack. And you're like yeah that that's like texas cowboy shit. That's like i own a ranch. I don't work on my ranch. Kinda shit right. The they grow in different ways and like jake is. I don't know takes more interested in what he is. Definitely a bit of a gold digger but like i mean i feel like him being a gold digger as what makes him be within hathaway right like that's the first thing he learns about her is like her dad is rich and then she comes over to hit on him. I think he is. He's taken by her because he knows nothing about her when he watches her ride the horse right he knows and i think these are men who are going. We need to get together because at one point johnson. How long are you gonna be single again. I'm doing great line but like you know like how long gonna be single like kalki. How can you do this you know. He's I think the jacobs knows. Jake plays the game like he's ahead of it. He has a you know i. I don't know of the year but he has a. Here's a post stonewall or maybe priest stonewall idea like okay. I can be gay. I can do this. I can go into. Mexico can have a boyfriend. And i'm going to follow these rules a make my wife happy. That's why he's like his drama with his wife isn't really there but i think what you see with him is. He's leaving too many clues around like he's lead like that leather jacket like the fact that that guy at that reception there at you know david harbour david harbour. Oh yeah who who says like he gets that he's gay he gets and like jake seems to dare people to get it like when he tries to hit on the rodeo clown and the rodeo sound just knows yes he's he's not hiding. He's he's being anything coy. And that's what's going to get him in trouble. I think he's hiding a bit more than that. But i think he's paranoid. Maybe that's also why he gets together with anne hathaway. It happens like right after the rodeo mounting. He's like okay. All these people at the bar and whispering about me. I will show them. I will be dancing with an hathaway and you know boning in the truck and like i will reassert so that nobody gets more suspicions about me. Set ablaze with you i think. Hathaway is. it's heartbreaking to watch the life get drained out of her geely. she's such like this beautiful ripe positive joyous person riding around in her little red outfit with our hat on and like the exuberance win there in back seat of her car that she has any watch her just get drained drained drain like the color goes out of her face the colleagues out of her hair she starts bleaching it more blonde and wearing more stiff and then at the end she's just got like those red lips and the red kind of claws but she just seems utterly broken like word joy to this man. You know you're right like vampires her. I think the difference is. I think that heath ledger cared about michelle williams. I don't think the jay jilin hall cared about halfway and you get to see that push pull the only 'cause truly the only seen that you see of their relationship of merit like a real merit. Is the thanksgiving seen right. Like i mean like him battling for masculinity with his dad law yes and i mean in the scene where she's akitas and dance with me like where i think. She's saying he's gay. I think there's like there but it's but we don't see the in between that. No yeah you're right to know without knowing right like i mean. Does she know well. That's the whole thing like she has that final scene on the phone with. Ns after his dead had her do takes it right like in one. Take of the phone. She's breaking news that he's dead lying to him about how he died he was like play it like you know and then in the second. Play it like you don't know. And then he took those two takes any edited them together so make it kind of very confusing so we never. And she's not even sure what he decided to choose in that performance whether she knows her not what i don't like about that from anne hathaway's perspective is. She didn't really make a choice about it either. Yeah but she you know. I think when you talk about that i let hang make that choice. Because he knew the text but i will say about this ending because i think nothing very very ending but the ending of how how joan hall's character ends. Do you believe that. He was beaten ditch as like because he was gay like it was a hate crime. Do you believe. I'll throw out my three options for you. Do you believe that that. That's just sheath imagining the thing that he lives with. And then and then finally. How much do you think an hatheway knows that's interesting. It didn't occur to me that that could be heath's imagination like he's listening to her words and picturing something else. I believe that there is an element. That could be very true to that because because we only see it in in the flashback on the phone conversation and that's the fear that he lives in his whole life is dictated by that. There's whole life. Choices are dictated by not wanting to be that guy who is beaten and left in a ditch that he saw as a child. So it is you can say oh. It's foreshadowing you can say. Oh it's his own thing you could say. Oh he was killed. That way. I mean and i i think the conventional wisdom would say like yes. He was killed in a hate crime. But i wanna at least explore the idea that that's heath bringing. I mean it's definitely cinematic. Told that way. I mean now that you've opened the door. I want that to be the case. Because i don't want this to be a relationship movie where the current lesson which i think is the antenna lesson is that like being gay will get you killed and ruin your life. I don't want that to be what happens for some reason in my head. I had rewritten it that he gets killed in mexico and i was surprised to remember that. That's not what happened. And i thought like you in mexico too much. Something happened but what we know of his life at this moment is. He's an acquired relationship with david harbour and for some reason lying to us about it and saying he's actually sleeping with nfl. Who is so great over. God can i just play. Nfl this really quick because like to see an affairs in this movie. I feel like we've also been robbed of some affairs to be honest. I know she's alive and she has plenty of time of her but nfs is wonderful. She just stopped doing moms. Somebody we get more of that. Maybe we'll get more of that and that's my fault. I haven't seen that show. I should i should but i just. She's wonderful anna really quickly. I just have to hear she. Is anybody wanna fall over there. S never thought it inappropriate little place like children then a mental rainbow here nagy game. He was an animal husbandry major. So we've been here and he got the job over roy. Taylor's ranch try to tap. Even though we ain't quite sorority sisters we made the dance of our film lorraine belief interested in dance. Smidgen a rhythm between them. It's funny isn't it. Don't never see one of their wives. That is i mean. Can i just say as you're pointing that out like movie that we debated whether or not it should be in. This thing is Lost in translation. And that's another great Anna farris performance such a. It's such a great one. She's so good she's just shows up and she makes every movie a little bit better when she's given room like this to be funny and strange and like i don't know i think she has so much versatility that we haven't gotten enough of yet. I digress. We know that like jalen hall. His relationship with david harbour and he seems to be pretty serious about him. I mean it a his own dad twisting the knife on. Ns by saying he was talking about coming up with that guy. So if that's what happened. We don't know if anything happened to david. Harbour like if harbor is open to it right like david harbour is on his level. he's he gets it. he knows it. He makes a like an aggressive move to him and in many respects. Maybe that is the better relationship for him well yet. Because that's what really stood out on. This watch is it isn't death that drives him apart like it isn't death that ends their relationship. It's their lives are would end this relationship. Their lives are just gone too far opposite directions and they can't be together any more you know. They have gigantic fight. When they're at the last time that they get to see each other cupping when he's like. I wish i could quit. You don't know how to quit you. That fight tell you what we could have had a good life. Get her fucking good. Life has a place of our room. But it's what we got now. He's broke back now. Everything's built on that. That's all we got boy fucking off. So i hope you know that you never know the rest. You count the few times that we've been together nearly twenty years. You mentioned a short fucking leash you keep me on and then you asked him about mexico and you tell you. Kill me for lean something. I don't hardly never in. What's so powerful about how that fight ends is mainly gives us like these to kinda scenes right in parallel i. He shows us them as a younger couple in jake watching heath right away in his face just being full up with love you know like i love this man and it's quiet and he's not overacting it. It's just there in the second time he's watching drive away and there's no love in his face anymore like it's just been crushed like ns has hurt him too much not being with him like he's tired of putting his whole life on hold for like these little summers in you get a sense. Then even if he didn't die it might be over like that might be at anyways. How you felt like that that maybe that's it. They're done no matter what i that was end but i felt like it was the end of the fantasy right of what they could be. There are always waiting for if this and this happens. And we could do this. And i think jake in that moment is like i need more and we may meet up again and i will always love you but you cannot be this person that i need in my life. And that's we talked about this at the beginning of the episode. Like who are the exes. Who are these people that that do this to you. I mean i feel like you know there is somebody that if they can't meet you you gotta cut bait and i think that's what he does. I don't think either over to the. But i think that's a moment where heath is like so internally wrestling with himself and going i don't know i'm so torn i want this to go on but i can't like this is like it's i mean this is why this is. I think this is a movie. You can only really tell in the sixties because it needs. This kind of there needs to be a societal impasse for him like he can't get over it and it sadder for heath because he has nothing else to fill his life with you know he's not trying to find love again really like he's really not like he's a guy who seems like he was born in loneliness talking about like being isolated from the time. I was a teenager when everybody in his life like died or got married like his siblings getting married and marriage already leading to a kind of loneliness and the way he talks about it. And that's how you winds up like he can't he can't help it. He has made all these choices to try to keep people in his life to try to keep his daughters in his life and not to hurt people and not to push people away completely and yet in doing that. He's gonna wind up alone again and it's so sad whereas like you sense that jake wants to live and we'll be making these choices to live. This is maybe what the whole movie underlying by trying to be someone he is not. He wrecks his relationships with everybody. He's around so when he's trying to protect he's protecting himself but to what end every little every relationship is destroyed every single relationship and and you don't see that on jake side. You know like he is living in a world where he can't be who he is but yet he is doing the most that he can. And i think you see that with his parents. Tell him like When his parents tell he thought he was up here with the other guy. They're going to do this thing. T found someone who would and even his parents begrudgingly. You're okay with it. But i think they're like i think i think is mom dad. Yeah i don't know about that but you look. They didn't kick them out. They let them go in his room. Like there is something in your right like i. Don't think the dad is ever gonna be but there's something about where you feel like. He told his parents who i am. This is your they or they knew there is a. They're not rejecting him and the he in many respects represents everything that heath wants. I mean he does have relationship with his parents. He does have this interesting relationship with david harbour. He does have an amazing relationship with heath. yes he still afraid. He has emigrate homelife. Obviously but there are these things that he still can be even when he wrestles for masculinity with the father. They're like he plays the game. He does it well. he doesn't punch the dad the key. There's when you look at the two of them you will. He's figured it out. it may not be. It's a perfect because of the time. Absolutely but if you told me to live one of these lives. I'm living jake. Jones live million times more because at the end of the day. Fletcher's this alone in a fucking trailer in the middle of nowhere with a fucking shirt and and that's beautiful beautiful moment but i'm not underscore but that's what do you he's alone with a fucking shirt. You know the way you describe it like there's not. I would say a moment in this film. Where either of them come out to anybody. They never they never come out to anyone not even to each other when they talk. They say that they're not to each other. And yet in this world. Everybody knows it's almost like the thing they're afraid of doesn't matter it does it of course does like in the actions in the in the consequences of what happened to them but that they're living this life of secrecy and yet jake's parents know like their wives no like it without saying the words the truth is still there you know the truth never seems completely hidden anyways so it makes the whole thing have this extra extra layer just tragedy to it you know. Yeah i mean this is a. I'm gonna say something here too. Like i know that they know and again. I'm always walking on eggshells in these conversations. They know i'm not always saying the right things. But like they don't even know like i don't think of myself as being heterosexual. I just think of myself being like the zoo. I love this. this is interested in. It's by getting rid of the labels. They're almost embracing the purity of it. Like no i love i am attracted and i love you. I also feel like there's something weird. Jacob schick i'm attracted and halfway and i'm attracted to alma. I'm just like but i'm not gonna love you because my heart is not here. You know and i'm not i can never give you my heart of these two women who've given up their lives their their soul and maybe david harbour is actually the best. Maybe david harbour lives the best life because his wife seems to be the happiest very well. Maybe there's still newlyweds. Maybe she'll get worse. But yeah i mean the way describing it like the fact that this movie i got. Boil down to the quote. Gay cowboy movie seem so ridiculous because we're either not even cowboys. There's no cows in this movie but being come on like there are so many sheep there so many sheep. It is what she boy. There's nothing say that she is it saying how many sheep they're like in some of the vistas. I'm like that is like oh really which she. I am I'm the one that has stuck in. Its foot that what's on his lap and pulls with the like the foreign out tenderly cradled. Yeah and i actually put a thorn in my in my in my path for that and that was my method acting on this one This beautiful did you. Do you want to be the one who got cradle. You're like if one of the sheep is getting cradled. That's me yeah. I mean i would love to get him boa l. Object john hall. Can we just say like we're talking about like we give a lot of props to fudge back. I will say on the level here. Like jake jilin hall is one of the most fucking interesting actors. I like. i am like he to me. I think he's under respected because what he is doing like when you see him night crawler when you see him in the even chronic of oh nightcrawlers so good. The prisoners or is he's and prisoners. Say like there's he just fucking picks cool directors and works. I think he's doing it. Like i know like you know who knows. I don't know him as a human being. But i know when i heard him on. That show mystery box. Darlie cline show. He just seems great. When i on howard stern he seems great. But he's a guy who i'm like you know he's done it like you know. He could have done anything like he could have gone the other way as far as like a big hollywood guy. Shoot him shoehorn of into it. I don't even remember. What prince of persia news okay. I'm not doing this anymore guy but it's so cool. It's like when you look when you look at his thing. It's like prisoners. Donnie darko brokeback night. Crawler and then he's the spiderman two and he's fucking great it's like he's great in spider man two. Have you seen that. You should see it for the perform things. i mean. honestly. No i just want to like take him in rower pattinson and put them in little boxes where they'll never get hurt because i want to keep them. Oh i love them. And by the way the other movie that i love so much i talk about it all the time and this may ended my jake rant is end of watch. Think end of watches. Great movie zodiac mary. Yeah so good but yeah so. I don't know like he's a guy who i'm like. I'm always kind of really impressed with what he's doing. And and and the director's he's working with. I just like you know watching him. Grow up right. He's i think we're gonna get to watch that guy like continue to grow up like he's not like a full grown adult. But that picture my life as a moviegoer having jake dylan hall movies in intel. Am ninety years old. Can i do know is like still be like all. Peter o'toole just like blinking out at you lou. What i also like about him to. And i'll say now i'm really going gaga guildhall Is he seems to have a fucking sensitive cursing so much. He seems to have a sense of humor about himself. And that's sometimes rare with an actor that like who does so much serious work like he just seems fun and light on his feet like again spiderman. Seems like he's having so much fun and but you hear them on shows and he's like on jiminy glick specials and he's like he's on john mullany sack lunch bunch like he's just like he seems like a guy like frizzell do play. I'll do this. I'll do like i just like that. We need more of that like that kind of like great actor willing to take chances can still do a big movie but also like just makes interesting films. I mean give me a velvet buzzsaw if that gives me a night crawler giving you do it all do it. I'll stick up for like at least forty minutes of velvet puzzle anyway. Yeah i mean to me. It's like the. I really do feel like yeah. Just give it to like go and make your weird shit anyway but i just wanna to give a little love to him. We've given to almost everybody else and know that a. Oh gosh is that. Just the jake dylan pattern. It's too bad like he should not be like fourth place in love. Everybody is just so good image films. Killing is she's great and it's like it was interesting to kind of remember that this was appeared in their career. Where like nobody was taking anne. Hathaway that seriously as an actress yet. Same thing with specialties. Diaries williamson's dawson's creek and they were like this is what broke them out and they have become. I think two of our most significant actresses in this generation. And like that is directly. I believe due to this movie. I mean gosh michelle williams scene which is challenging heath to the trout test. It wishes like oh. I used to wonder how come you never brought any trout's home. You are said you caught planning and you know how in the girls lack fish so one night. I got your creole case open before you went on a your little trips prospects still on it after five years and i've had a note to the end of the line said hello. Anna's bring some fish home love alma and then you come back. Look at all perky said you called a bunch of browns and ate them up jer member in that case for chance gotten their time there. They'll hand touch water and its life transforming on. We're and it's me twist fish you nothing about. I love that scene. I'll say that there's another seen in this movie to when she first catches them kissing. There's so many moments on faces here you know. We re lives in in small reaction shots at quinn when he like when she asked to go get up. Give me a pack of cigarettes. And he's like a al. Did they just kind of follows her in the there's so many moments where you live in her face and she's doing much and she's got no vanity about it. I mean i think like in their thanksgiving seen how they have are costumed in address. That makes her look like her breasts or balancing on her knees. They dress her in these horrible ways and she just goes for it. It's funny because this is the year where i think of as like my iconic michelle williams where she goes to the oscar for brokeback mountain. And she's wearing. I would believe that any girl listening to this knows exactly what. I'm talking about the yellow dress that yellow fucking dress. The red lipstick like peak peak peak oscar glamour. I think that is still like one of the top ten oscar dresses of all time. Do do not inhale yes. Yes the oscar dress. Still like i would get anything for that dress. My aunt Tried to make me version of that dress. Once because my aunt kim his name address that is an email address that it is a perfect dress. It is a perfect look. Everything about her is amazing. But yeah i still think of this as her big debut watcher. I guess i was a huge huge dawson creek watcher. But it's a completely different performance. I always believe that like the people that find their way into your thing. The people that were right for the thing and you know while this may have been miscast or people dropped out like he found that the alchemy was right in it. We should talk about the angrily of at all. I mean there's a couple of things. I think are really important like one. This is the movie where ingley wins his first best director award at the oscars to of them now the other one is for the life of pi and it is wild because he actually when he wins this for brokeback mountain. He becomes the first a director of color to win the best director oscar and that is not that long ago. That is insane. This is actually a little bit of his speech. Well i wish i knew how to create you first of all. I wanna thank to people who don't even exist. Or i should say they do exist because imagination of any prue and artistry of larry mcmurtry and diana asana. Their names are ns and jack and they taught all of us. Who made brokeback mountain. So much about not just all the gay men and women whose loves deny -ociety but just as important greatness of love it. Thank you i mean. Of course like england was already like ankh fucking lead by this time like he was a huge deal even though his career gone through like some wild like would do ups and downs. I mean he did crouching tiger than he did hulk using about quitting the movies then he decides to do brokeback mountain. I mean his own story. I think is really really romantic in its own way. Like he's a guy who himself had lived a life where he wasn't trying to follow like the exact role model. Template of like you are the breadwinner and your wife takes care of you. Like he came to america to study film and he had wanted to be an actor but when he got here he felt like he didn't know english enough to be an actor so he became a director instead he went to nyu and you met spike lee. Like he worked on spike. Lee's graduation film like they have this whole history together and then he falls in love with his wife. Who is a microbiologist info. So for the first six years after he graduates film school. He does not get any job you know. He's like the broke starving artists already with this pressure on him for failing his dad by going into this kind of career in the first place and his wife supports the family for six years in just like believes in him he decides okay. I can't do this like her in-laws whole like thing. Kind of like what happens to dig dylan here. They send her money to give to him to open a chinese restaurant just to be like have your husband do something with his life. This is getting old. And he doesn't take it he but he does aside. Final study computers. I guess that make them happy it. He's miserable and he hates studying computers and his wife just comes home and she's like there are people setting computers already and they do not need an ingley do that. She just keeps believing in him. In so i love that he comes to this project already. I think having respect for like the strong women and how they also shoulder the weight of their husbands. I mean i think this movie giving so much time to the wives is part of its strength. You know because it's not just focused only on the romance romance. It's focused so much on the broader destruction because thinking about this movie in context of what. We're talking about this week with love basketball. You know that is a movie that is like sometimes you have to make compromises be in love and to be happy ito in this is a movie. Where the compromises you make for your own happiness for your own life like lead to you making everybody miserable. Can't you think about it like not can't you. You've been arguing in this. But don't you think that most directors make movies about themselves right and they see something in it like this not about angrily being a game man but it's about ingley making compromises or not making compromises and the idea being. Do i live the life of. Why no i want to be or do i live the life of what. I'm supposed to be an coming after hulk interesting that this is the movie because this is more of the jake jilin all choice. Maybe hoke was more of the The ns choice. I don't know you know like there is something about like you can see that. Push poll of who they really are versus. Who the whole the box of people wanna put them in there that i that has to be an underlying thing going on here with him and why he was attracted to this project especially You know it's beautiful love story but that theme is so universal know. That's so true. And i think now that we have like this decade and a half of distance in this movie less and less feels like the you know hot button topic quota. Go gay cowboy movie. It feels more universal. I think in general because like we're not distracted by ito. The wild think pieces of the day. I think it is more open for you to find your own way into the movie and just see them as people because we're not looking at them as like archetypes. Or what is this film standing for. What is this film saying. Like what in in about this specific issue like it doesn't have to break down all those doors anymore and now it's allowed to kind of stand. Tell the story that it really is saying which is yeah which is about like how to live a long life when you can't be yourself like how to be in love when you can't be yourself well and then i think this folds really nicely into what i said to remember at the beginning which is let's talk about the final shot or like the last couple of shots like he opened up on heath ledger in this getting off a bus in this wide open field. Small man in a in a wide open space. Almost of the world is in front of him. What choices will he make you know. And then we end ito. Besides if any of the trailer. I really wanted to focus on ending in the closet. I mean there's no more clearer metaphor than he being in the closet and In that final see he gets in the closet with that. You're not is such a beautiful moment. I forgot all about that. Actually forgot all about that like last act and just that moment of him a big man in that small space kind of trapped. And then you can revisit it. You know a second later. His daughter's like i'm getting married. I'm i'm i love this person. And he's in another tight space small trailer tight space and Any and she leaves to go be happy and he in the once again in the closet is this. That's that's it. It's so i mean. It's heartbreaking it's heartbreaking and the metaphor so clean and we see him in that way and we see a man completely in about like literally in a box outside like all that possibility is just like uh small window square box. He's in a box in that world. Because when you think that when you see that out like cut away the trailer. I it's a box within a larger landscape and he is literally in a coffin to a certain degree. And that's what he's done he's killed everybody around him and to what end. Yeah i mean these open visit. They have when the two of them are young and feels like they are riding horses through limitless promise into all. He wants us to be outdoors into being of and he gets nothing at the end. You know it's been really It is i heard it was actually heath's idea to reverse the order of the shirts because when he finds them in jail and halls bedroom there folded on the hanger so that innocent shirt is on the inside in jake shirt is around it and he said he wanna flip it so that now. His shirt was the one hugging. jake's key was him close to himself just a bit of like an emotion. Love that church. Uh beautiful movie man. I mean i think jake. A few years ago ingley one like a gigantic fireworks. And it was jake dylan all one of his introduction speeches and i really love what he said like. He talked a lot about emily's use of silence and it had me thinking that part of where. I feel like i see alien. This film is that he and the movie. Both don't say much to say what they want to say. You know there is kind of like a quiet. Read into the visuals you will understand. I trust you to follow me. I trust you to get what you get out of this like. The he did not make a movie where people say everything just flat out. He made a movie where people say just enough in. Jake was talking about how that approach really just fits him as a director working with people either the way that he would work on like you would rehearse the actors and then on the day of filming. He wouldn't say that much he would be like. They know what they're doing now like. I don't need to tell them to kiss each other. They know what they're doing. And i can just trust them. The jacob sort of giving a testament to that here and well some authors lead their troops with flash bang working with saying is a masterclass in silence. We don't always need to speak in order to communicate and it's a lesson that rings in my ears often. I i remember the day we shot our big love scene when we finished the scene we both heath and i we got up and we looked over to see a huge smile awnings face and i was surprised because although though you might not know it has a really great sense of humor there he. He rarely smiled onset. But this was a shit eating grin. So naturally i walked up to hang and i was excited to see any sort of emotion. Cross his face and he i asked i was like how. How was that was that you know you like the scene. And he just was not in a really awkward way and he just said so. Okay i think is one of our greatest living to directors. That's probably not a gigantic statement to make. I'll just say. I'll say it really. I'll say it as much as you would. Scroll one of our great directors you know and i think there's not that much out there about this but i also feel like he is one of those directors i- kubrick who is very specific and very exacting about what he wants and not necessarily what the actors want and i think that that is some that you probably see with fincher and a kubrick especially like that. I need to be this way. But i mean so. Look we've talked about it like we know. This is a huge hit. We've talked about the general response. But what was. The critical response was a pretty much still positive. It was the critical. A response was very very positive but there was a piece that i wanna read. It's kind of. It's a think piece that came out right before the oscars By a phone critic. That actually i've to know Fairly well david aaron stein. He's in love with me And he himself is a gay man who writes about like gay filmmaking about making people of color and so he felt like this film he likened it to To kill a mockingbird in unflattering way so okay owlry that arriving at the climax of a cultural moment that includes will and grace mary cheney and above all ellen brokeback is a shrewdly crafted quote unquote prestige picture aims like a heat seeking missile at the same female viewers who made queer as folk a cable hit. The movie is not daring or edgy or even particularly controversial. It's not about gay liberation or the radical politics that would transform self and society. What it is a well closeted romance replete with studly leads smooching and muttering about quote unquote feelings. There's a lot of quotes in this In ways sure to set aflutter those feminine hearts longing for a softcore version of hot man to man action. and then here's where. He likens a tequila mockingbird which he just believes is like a film that's all about making people feel well-meaning in pat pat on the back and say shaded and doesn't actually do anything to kill balking bird delicately bypass the actual history of the civil rights movement in the african americans who lived and died for it to tell the story of a good non-racist white man into and six the real descendant of pecs tasteful unthreatening. Liberal restraint is not clooney but brokeback director. Ingley this movie. Making chameleon capable of navigating from sense and sensibility to the hulk is neither gate nora cowboy in therefore in hollywood terms perfect for telling gala story uncontroversial set in the pre aids past utterly removed from political moment who success made it possible lee. Positively glows with atticus finch like temperament. He's gracious modest to a fault just like his film safely kept in a closet of breathtaking. Visual beauty. decorous dramatic restraint in utter a historicism. The gay cowboys of brokeback are stoic. And safe in us. The man who brought them to the screen will be rewarded for services rendered to what they celebrated anti cowboy gorby dial calls quote the united states of amnesia interesting. What does that even. I don't even know if i can break that down. But yeah i think what it means by. United states of amnesia is that we've rewrite over the negative parts of ourselves that we don't want to remember in soften everything and make it palatable and fuzzy and i think he feels like this film pulled punches in didn't really get into like the actual brutal truth of how it lived in order to make people feel well-meaning i don't know i mean he seems to really believe that like women also watch us moving to get their rocks off which i don't think is true. Maybe i mean. I'm open to people saying that they did. But like there's a bit projection side but his point about like him writing as like a black gay writer. Saying like you're just trying to make people feel good who didn't live this story. I feel like. I want to at least listen to right. It's hard because they think that a film like this can't be all things to all people right. And i think at the end of the day if you take away everything it's just a romance but coming in two thousand five in the time that it's coming out does it. Bear bear a bigger responsibility. We're talking about that. Like you know. And i think this a movie better serve to be watching now. Two thousand twenty one because the stigma is gone. Like you said and you can just watch a romance. that doesn't need to do more than anything else. I think those things that he talking about goes away a little bit. You're right because there is this. Almost futile need for the first to be the best at everything is to for the first to say everything that needed to be settled. We want so much from thing that is so close to perfect it. Maybe the that's sure. I think this movie also had to make its own compromises not having that many kissing scenes in it and not like putting kisses in advertisements. This movie itself had come out a little bit compromised to exist at all in. Are we okay with that but commune. There's also something to say about. I guess maybe again and put my foot in my mouth. But there's only so much that a story written by someone who's not gay and a film made by someone who's not gay and starring two men who are not gay can do and say right a certain point. There's so many people here that there's voices that aren't being heard. And i think it's worthy of just mentioning that as well like. There's a lot of heterosexual people making this movie about something and i think that that is when we come and talk about like. It's a catch twenty two. Because i think there's a part of the story where the reason why it got the attention at did the reason why it made. This money is because of those stars and and the fact that they went there and did this thing that at the time was a very bold artistic choice. But there's also something about the story that you're like well. I would like to have someone who is maybe is a little bit more attached. This material can bring something a little bit more to it and it doesn't matter how much in character you are because in these characters in very beautifully realizing the story is beautifully. Told but there are those facets that you probably will never get you know. It's sort of like you know quinn tarantino could make sorry to bother you you know on some level but it's not going to be the same thing that boots riley is bringing to it and i just think that different perspectives can really abuse me or or label something or bring them into fold and that's what we wrestle with. What we're wrestling with right now is making room for those voices to tell the stories making sure that that you know. We're not doing a disservice. And i think this movie doesn't do well look to him. It does it does do a little bit of a disservice. Oh that's that's something to talk about to do a high do we. Elevate the thing that is made by people who are not gay about gay culture. Say this is the thing but is it. The watershed moment. That broke it through. I don't know. I don't know how to necessarily wrestle with that but i think it is in this conversation. We just had a kind of triggered with me. Like oh yeah. We'll wait a second. Yeah although much there. I think everything can be true at the same time like. I think it can be true that if we did this movie for the first time today lake. If it was a new script that we did we would probably cast and directed differently right I think that is definitely true. And i think that movie i'd wanna see it. I don't wanna see that version of it and yet it don't think it takes away from the fact that this movie had the power that it had and maybe had to exist even if we do it the same i mean. Angling has always had for himself. His drink as a director is that he always felt like an outsider. You know didn't feeling like an outsider. Himself living in a country where he didn't speak billionaires for a long time feeling like an outsider and his family by being the only artist the being an outsider gave him the empathy to kind of watch and learn and explore other people. I was thinking about it because actually Last week The director chloe's out. Who did you know the rider. Who did nomad land. And who has a little bit of a similar background to you. Know coming to the states from china and you know studying with spike lee. She also do is likely going to part of the world that she wasn't from in her case she also is going like the dakotas that area to work with indian tribes like she said in this interview one more that lake her being outsiders also she feels like part of her strength like it helps kind of look at things with like fresh is in that her. Doing a story about you know native american reservations. It felt like it was better to the community that she was doing it. And not an american. Because americans would come to the to the Reservations and they'd only wanna make what they're calling like poverty porn like everything here and you're so sad and this is just a sad situation in that they loaded onto it. You know extra guilt and shame in american just stereotypes but like to have a an absolute outsider. Come in. they felt like she saw them more as people. She's really fascinating. And so i guess she's going to her whole canal with like the eternal and i'm just like really want her career to work out well because i think she's such a talent well but i think this is the this is what we are experiencing too is like diversity in cinema and stories being told and what we are trying to elevate it. I think you know it came to a head. Obviously with oscarssowhite just a couple years ago and i think we continue to wrestle with it. I think you know you saw a lot with the golden globes this year which is always problematic. But i think it's about you know making sure that different voices are heard because i think we spent a long time and we believe dealt with this a lot on the f. list hearing what straight white men have to say. You have this team. That is an interesting team. Short story written by an amazing female author. You have a person of color as a director. You have you know and and larry mcmurtry like kind of bringing in who we know from us picture show and obviously lonesome dove. You know there's a lot of elements here That make it. I don't know like. I don't know because i'm also not in the in the world where it's like angry shouldn't have made this movie. But i also it's you know who's to say. I just think as long as we have opportunities and we create space for people to tell their stories every story will be elevated and better and not to say that. You can't tell stories if you're not that interesting but like but we need to also have space for those stories to be told and and be made and you know be acted in hey agree and if if life has changed this much in you know the fifteen years since this came out i opened the next fifteen years. This conversation isn't as much of a conversation that is just sort of a given the way that i think. Having a story about two men in love is now more of a given. I mean you know. Look look at love. Simon which came out in two thousand eighteen is a giant hit. And it's now spawning its own. Tv show on disney. Plus you know it's like whoa like wait. Disney plus is having a show about gay teens. Like and look. I can't reference every single. Show out there that you look at like shits creek and you look at you know where where you know. David on that show like being gay is not necessarily a part of like. It's not abnormal. it's not like it's not viewed as a thing that we've come so far like i don't think anyone talks about shits creek and talk about that romance and shits creek is like being like. Oh my god. Can you believe it's like no that's silly love. And that's that's you know it's like we. We have come this far. It's almost in. I think consistently moving forward and forward and forward and continuing to tell these stories. And i'm sure people can disagree with me but you know brooklyn nine nine brooklyn nine nine two. It's like there's so much material out there network. And i think we are striving. We're getting to a place where stories are being told but i guess my question is in this grand scheme of things at this. The movie that we send up the you know where we have one hundred slots do we show this to the aliens. I mean to be honest. I think it's a pretty high contender really. Do i think. I think that there is so much depth in this film. You know about outta live a just how to live a life that i really respect not to mention the fact that it's absolutely beautiful other even as you're talking listening all these films i'm thinking that maybe to me like one of my favorite tests of how film culture in in the larger culture pushing forward is that is not even just like our oskar films our top one hundred films but just the dumb cute as health stuff like the kristen stewart. Romantic comedy from like christmas. Yeah that's it has the dumbest damn. I'm sorry i cannot never remember the name. I'm going to now. I will live my life and never remember that title. However like i love the half of it really. Yeah the half of it is great like there's so many great things that i saw this year but i guess it's like less and less being the lead story of something like the happiest season is like people really like it and it has and then i think it's important to see movies like disclosure which is a great documentary on net. That you know breaks down. You know a lot of stuff in the trans community and with the way that we've been kind of brainwashed. There's so many places we can open up and there's so many exciting places to go that there's a part of me it's like as far as performances are concerned. I love these performances. I love this story. It's beautiful to look at. It's a high contender for me. But i would also want to make sure that our list is our presentative of more than this being the defining voice of this. You know not the the. I wanna make sure that we continue to strive in an open. Hear different voices two angry. Because i think there is a little bit nervous about like if we only have like one romance about two men in love. Does it have to be sad because they do that is. That's a common criticism. Had to go through like the making of this tragedy movies before it. Just get to the normal of the movie. Yeah yeah immune. It's been a fascinating conversation. And i know there's so much more to talk about but we got to wrap it up and we have to get ready for next week because next week. We didn't pick the movie. Our listeners did and there was a very A lot of back and forth here for what the listeners pick is. There's this field is so big it's so open on. I know we got a lot of love for getting like love basketball in there. I think a lot of people love chungking express. We've tried to go out of the rounds of just rom coms and here are the top four and our winner for what we'll be covering next week europol although when better l. redo the top eight okay sending order so coming in and eight the thin man an excellent choice so boom we couldn't do that one yeah walli then moonlight then portrait of a lady on fire them before sunrise then herald and then the big sick and then finally our winter the princess barat. Wow it's so interesting. The big sick. Obviously i know camille and emily very well really has jumped up to the top of people's favourite romantic comedies. I was doing a little bit of looking around valentine's day to see like what people talk about and it. It really has become a staple like new staple in this in this world. I'm so excited for them. But i also love how quickly that was embraced in very cool. But that's a great look. Those are great. Eight great movies would made a great series. But i'm excited to get into princess bride just because william goldman and rob reiner and this cast and And it will be completely gin once again. A completely different tone and tenor than everything else we've talked about. It depends as brides since we did the original afl list. I am so excited. It feels like it's such a movie. Oddly it's odd that's on there. Well you can get princess bride. Wherever movies are are streamed or rented from the library can do as well but it goes into the trailer. Real quick special prison is a special book. Was the book my father to read to me. When i was sick and i used to read it off and today triad sailly. Wesley had no money for marriage so he packed his few belongings and left the fom to seek his fortune of force. The land a-pumping right to choose his bride. The fabric will make the pitch suspect with the guilt. Arians if abducted this love another thing about killing anyone. Associated day is obviously with the princess. Let's therefore die. One of those get behind the boulder minute is headed. It's in view with the rock. Was not sportsman. I've got my country's five hundred of us read plan my wedding to my wife tamara. I'm swamped all right. And we will see you next week. Four princess bride

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Maggie Gyllenhaal on The Deuce and #MeToo

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Maggie Gyllenhaal on The Deuce and #MeToo

"This new yorker podcast is supported by indeed dot com. Are you hiring with indeed. You can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash new yorker. That's indeed dot com slash new yorker. This is the politics and more podcast. I'm david. I'm nick since the beginning of her career. The actress maggie gyllenhaal has pushed the boundaries of how sexuality is depicted on the screen. Her first starring role was in the two thousand and two movie secretary about a troubled young woman who enters a sadomasochistic kissed relationship with her creepy boss. It's a romantic comedy. That was completely unsettling. Many acclaimed indie movies followed followed and a few years ago. Jillian hall became a star and an executive producer of the deuce. That's the h._b._o. Drama about the porn industry created by david simon and george pellicano jilin hall plays candy a prostitute who sees an opportunity in doing porn films and then eventually makes her way into directing acting them the third season of the deuce and its final season starts next month. Jillian hall spoke with our staff writer. Lauren collins last fall live in conversation asian at the new yorker festival served as an executive producer u._c. The dailies united azali early drafts early script and then i also see early cut early cuts okay. I'm really curious how it's been been for you to have that kind of extra creative power on this show. Can you talk about a time. Tell us a note you've made. I'm going to tell a story about episode food three. There's a scene where candy you know she's been making porn but she wants to make a she wants to make a really couldn't movie. It's fine for her. It's porn put. She wants it to be good and she doesn't want money so she goes out to california. Oh for neha and she tries a number of reasons and she tries to get money from this real high would producer and she she's really confident in her project and she has a great eight meeting with this guy and at the end of it. He says he'll give her ten thousand dollars which is a fraction of what she said in the previous scene she needs. She says she needs two hundred three hundred thousand dollars over ten grand if she if she gives him a blowjob story little red riding hood. It's not bad fact. Bring the whole family. Don't take this the wrong way but you're you probably a little too old. Play little red so i'm guessing the grandmother director actress director right behind the camera. That's aw candy. This is a business people aren't buying tickets to see the director's credit say san juan. I'm an investor. I have to be smart about where i put my money so so what you're not gonna pony up unless i've come film. I haven't seen any reason stuff but i'm sure he is still look grave great. Tell you what i read you check for ten grand and ten percent of the action right now. If you come over here and suck my cock while i'm doing it. David told me about that scene early on and with david. I always have a running kind of conversation going onset. When we see each other about what's coming up and what's you know whatever cut up just seeing whatever so he says okay coming up. I'm thinking about this and he he says i think she should tell him to fuck off and leave and i said she can't do that. She has to do it and he he was like i was also thinking that totally my dear or something you know he was he was he was on either side but he was testing out on me okay she. She walks out blows him off. I mean leads and i was like no. She can't because of course had to put this and it's much less usual that we as women have been asked to actually give a blowjob for money but many women have been asked to compromise from is themselves in much subtler ways and have done it and we don't get to hear the stories of when people say yes exactly. They're the think in your own mind about. I mean i'm sure he didn't do a candy. Maybe it did but i mean ways in which you look back and you go. Oh my god. How did i how how did i like laugh at got joke or stay in that meeting or do put that shirt on or whatever right that we've all done and i was a candy gets be better than us you you know she's she's not better than mushy the same and so and i said but you have to have the moment with her after that's what you have to have please right so that i get to you get to have a moment with her. After you get to see what it cost her you get to have an <hes> meant a lot to me so we shoot it. I'm really pleased with all of it and then we shoot a scene at the end of the episode where i've got the <hes> <hes> check and seems just written have got the check and i don't know i take it out and look at it or something but as we were shooting it somehow how i had this song in my head. Who is it cardi b. Maybe that's like i got money. Moves definitely cardi already. We and i was like it's not just the candies thinking like oh yes. I made this money or something. No it's all sorts of things but there's a part of her. That's it's like. I'm gonna make my movie <hes> you know and but all the other things are included in a two so anyway i'm all happy with all that how strange strange it is an unusual and it doesn't fit into a box and then i get to set to shooting episode four actually showing director on episode four so i was there all the time and the and somebody said to me. I think we're gonna cut that scene. After the blow job and i thought about it i thought okay maybe they're right. Maybe you don't need a and i went back and watched it. I thought a lot about it and then i explained explain to him. I said look this is why our show is current. You see the cost you have to see the cost to the woman who's done this thing and and and george said to me said i don't okay he said i don't understand though why she's okay with it in the room then not okay with it it after and then kind of okay with it again in her apartment and i was like okay that that's what i'm talking about about a seminarian in perspective meal and this is in a linear and look. I understand that like many men including george pellicano. Don't think in like a straight linear in your line. I mean many many men. I know my husband my brother but there's something about the way that like a narrative setup that i think usually requires that and i was like right. No that's not what i'm doing. I'm doing well. I'm interested. I mean you find yourself doing this. Show that is just all about what we're all all thinking about sex power dynamic between the two feminism exploitation all of these things what's the conversation station going on at the about reality and your show and the way that they intertwined that is what the show's about the show is about what's on on everyone's mind right now. I mean look if you look at the scene that i just described in some ways. How little has changed. I heard you sound n._p._r. That you all all had created a new job on this set and hired an intimacy coordinator who it sounds kind of funny but it's not it's really really an interesting and good idea. It seems like the idea right. Is that like if you're doing a fight scene. There's a fight core. What's up a fight coordinator and if you're doing all day long yeah you also need somebody to ask people. Hey are you okay. Do you need anything like is this all going okay and so i mean you all have taken steps right to try to make sure that that environment yeah. I mean basically this. Is you know what i'm talking about. People sort of waking up and going war we why did i do. Why did i accept this. And why did i accept this and our president gets to say out loud. I you can grab women by their pussy. If you have enough power nobody cares and they just elect him president anyway or you know we. I think we just started going like whoa what and the because of all that at that time. I was in in some meetings with other actresses and we were talking about. Are these kind of meetings. When you were setting up times up the legal defense fund or at least he's just very early on like before that okay kind of casual <hes> <hes> i was invited to a couple of meetings and and went and listened to you know and and spoke with women who i really admired who'd who are actresses and one of the things we were talking about was yeah. It was sex vaccines and how yeah when you do a stunt. Even if someone like just pretends to slap you or whatever there's always a stunt coordinator there there's always somebody there who is looking out to make sure that you're physically safe and there's not with sexy and and why not and we also talked about about things like just the way it is on a set often. They're like we don't have any time is a cool. If you just get wired for sound around just like right here where to do it here which means you pull your shirt up and someone's got their hands up your bra and then maybe if to open your pants and put. Could you know if you have experience and if you know the sound guy really well because you've been working all all the time or if you're powerful it's easy to say no. I don't actually feel comfortable here. Let's go back to my trailer or do you mind if we go in this private room but if you are twenty two and you've got two lines and you're psyched to have the gig and you're like oh this is how you do it okay and so then got their hands up your shirt and we we're all like jaffa rate never even thought of that. You know a little things right. Hundreds of things like that really great. I was surprised to hear sure you say in describing these meetings. Maybe these early meetings but also meetings that took place when you all were organizing time's up that i wasn't an oregon okay time i was. You're a signatory. Yeah yeah okay but you said something about yeah. It was really amazing being in a room with all these smart interesting women. I was surprised it's like i would think that happens. A lot are kind of no. I felt when i was there. I was just at two meeting. I guess what i'm saying is just do women in hollywood like go get together. A lot has their actresses. There's a kind of a thing. I think where you're like well. I'm in direct competition with these five people all the time and not really like. I don't like most of the people who get jobs that i want. I think are really good no so and i do have real respect respect for and and yet there's a kind of a weird thing because writers. We have nothing better to hang out with each other all the time. I was like oh they're grill uh-huh like hollywood girls night. Oh like you work together and publication right. You know what i mean like i. I guess i knew some people who had worked with but do you think there's been a mounting sense of solidarity amongst women and say no no i do. I do in general right yeah and in hollywood too i think so. Let's talk about directing so this farrand onta- <hes> adaptation that you're doing either. He'll like something about what's happening. In the world right now has shifted my thinking about whether or not i can direct immune begin to think about directing and i also feel like playing candy. I mean like that shifted shifted me in terms of feeling like direct end so i asked i just went to the source one go to a to atlanta for on jalen and friday because she is just a pen name. You know she's anonymous. I we went to her publisher and <hes> <hes> and i said you need to write to her and i right before he turned forty bus november. I spent a few weeks leaks writing this letter to elena ferrante as as one would i mean to me i was like did you did you then have to translate it or i didn't let <hes> heard you do that and and goldstein maybe right <hes> i but i i said what i wanted to say to her about about how i would imagine the loss daughter and she came back and said you can have the rights but you have to direct it. I'm only giving the rights to you to direct and i said i wanted to direct it but th th there was a moment a few months later i was like well i mean i don't know what if we can finance it with me directing it in what if what if something happens and she said no my paraphrase of this do whatever you want it but it better be really good but what she wrote was women women have to contribute to an artistic genealogy of our own that stands up in terms of intelligent refinement skill richness of invention emotional density to the male tradition no pressure but it makes me west friday actually ran has it's like it's like the woman who i admire basically saying like you can do it and who better than her so anyway dante also was. I had that same experience where i was like whoa this is <hes>. This is going in pure like i have never heard these things articulated before. I remember like there was one point where i was like. This woman is so fucked up and then i was like i totally relate to her point. It was a twenty million times in those books and and and i've never heard this set out loud before and i'm comforted by hearing it set out loud the days of abandonment. I dropped that book and couldn't pick it up for a couple of days. I wanna walk a tightrope where you can't fall off either either at right and i wanna i wanna be constantly considering like from an emotional place how to tell the story so you don't fall off the theat and yet even though i think that's how i always thought about all of it there's been times i've been actress for higher and i popped in and i did my thing but it almost never. I don't get asked to do that very much. I think those are lucrative jobs and i would ask me. She's available <hes> but i but i still never felt like interested in directing. Maybe or like a direct and i have a long way to go. Oh i'm adapting the screenplay. I have to say for me where my work is always collaborative where where i'm always okay. This is what i know. I need and the scene how do i how do i get it. How do i have this conversation nor maybe it just changed. The line is always either a conversation or some kind of complicated collaboration to just get to sit by myself and go a slow as i want and take as much time as i want and just consider heaven so that's where my heart is right now to be honest and i i would. I'm about two thirds of the way through the adaptation. Do you have any intention of acting in it no no. I think that's too much for me. <hes> but i'm fascinated i have to say to work with an incredible actress. I have so much experience silence of being directed and what feels good to me and what doesn't and i'm so interested to observe someone and support court someone going through something difficult. If feels like you'll have the opportunity to kind of pay it forward from elena bronte today will never this. We'll also have you noticed. I don't know if you noticed i feel like candy is such kind director. Things go wrong. She liked takes care of her actors church. She even in season one. She like make sure they're fed. I mean that's the bare minimum obviously but that doesn't that can't take for granted but i believe in kindness i think about the act the directors i mean scott cooper. I remember one day i was doing this difficulty in with jeff bridges early on and he just came up to me and he was like i love you. I was like oh good. You just feel oh. That's important to feel loved. It's important to feel seen and appreciated and respected and loved and so i'm anticipating. I'm looking forward to being able to do that to somebody else maggie. Thank you so much for being thank you.

director david simon maggie gyllenhaal coordinator Jillian hall hollywood george pellicano jilin hall executive producer Lauren collins secretary president jeff bridges staff writer george pellicano producer elena ferrante california elena bronte scott cooper