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REShow: DeForest Buckner. Hour 1 (01-21-20)

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REShow: DeForest Buckner. Hour 1 (01-21-20)

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All agree is one of the better match ups that we could have wished for like an end of this. NFL One hundred season not only because You Know Oh It it's something to look forward to over the next two weeks. We're going to Miami. If you're down in Miami we're going to have live shows just like we did last year. We'll tell you later on in the show how you can get involved if you're down at the Super Bowl and you wanna come hang with us. You May That's not another reason why it's a great day also one of our favorite basketball players in the NBA Ba. We Love Damian Lillard. We'd love Dame Lillard sixty points last night Much like the upcoming impeachment. Trial happened in the middle of the night. A lot of people aren't we're GONNA see with a much of the action This one however was unscheduled. We didn't expect this But Dame put sixty points down on the blazers last night I mean on the warriors last night sixty points ten rebounds double double just to make it nice in Sixty one rich sixty one. My sixty one points and ten rebounds last night we've got a whole host of statistics that come off of this Your Celtics had an incredible night against the Lakers. It's it's amazing man. Lakers looked like world leaders against the rockets in Houston without Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis comes back and the Celtics just absolutely put them over there their knee and spanked him spanked him. Take it Kemba Walker Doing something in his career that he's never done before and we'll we'll hit on that later on in this edition of the rich Eisen show. 'cause it is my favorite stat that I've seen this decade okay. Hey it's the clubhouse leader of my favorite stat of the decade. Wow with twenty days into the new decade Not only another perfect reason for a perfect day and is that tonight Derek. Sanderson jeter will be a hall of fame. The perfect human being. That's his middle name. Real is it is expected better. Derrick jeeter will be at six eastern time tonight a baseball famer. I don't believe he will match Mariano Rivera. Oh really why not all there so much jeeter eight out there that he's numbers that if he wasn't a Yankee a Yankee where Geeta denies a hall of Famer He's a denial is a hall of famers unanimous Hall of Famer that there's enough people out there and that is by the way the flip side of if you don't think if he's not unanimous there's people out there you know what I don't think so but in two years he is. I guess so to. I'm Bob Chef shooter. Geeta number two in amazing. I mean the championships. The clutch moments that three thousand hits I go. What are we doing the November homerun? I mean up into the stands. Tocchet hold on hold on the incredible flip. Got Out at the plate. Yeah okay well. I'm GONNA have that. I'm going to have that cute up to six. PM Eastern uh-huh here. We got you. And I can have a good night together. Because it's possible we take out the old red sharpie input curt Schilling's name on the same list. Are you seeing some of these tracks. I am the Adam. I haven't that Schilling has a the real shot tonight. As does Larry Walker. Those guys deserve it. I think they're hall of famers about people who are trying to point out that like Larry played in Colorado whatever third only only thirty one percent of his at bats in course famine Colorado. So it's like not a good metric people and by the way just like the great line. Line that Tom Hanks said in baseball movie history is that if it was that Eddie we could all do it right in a League of their own one of the great lines about baseball. If it's that easy we would all do it right and so. Why isn't everybody in Baseball Hall of fame because they played where? Where's the todd? Father where it's taught Helton. Why isn't Dante bichette in Cooperstown Andres Galarraga whereas because they all they all had inflated stats? Right the greatest most natural actual performance enhancer is the altitude of Denver. Right correct correct. Thirty one percent of his at bats. So we'll see tonight so we got that old. Working who else do you think the bonds and clemens get in I do not by the way could you imagine bonds and clemens get in just as the cheating scandal is just in full bloom of all that of all the times for that to happen. Yeah you just put it on their plaque man. It is a museum put it separate room. Put them in an look. Let's let's let's just go down this road one more time here and everybody can call eight four four two zero four rich if you wish. Bonds and clemens were hall of famers before there had started looking trapezoidal or allegedly to start looking that way throwing bats it might be as lemons ends was a hall of Famer based on his red sox years alone in my mind and then the Toronto Years Man. Well that's started. That's when the alleged Alleged nece began and bonds when he was rail thin for the Leland pirates. He's amazing thirty thirty. He was amazing. These amazing baseball player. He has but again. These things happen happen in in the world and you gotta live with the consequences for all the years to come. So we'll see tonight but Derek Jerry Dare Jetson and wow again predict you. He will not match river as being the first unanimous player if grant can griffey junior wasn't in a unanimous what is the matter with people seriously. What is the absolute matter with people but you do see the jeeter stuff hey look at his numbers with? Bg Oh you know bg Oh still up there too and BDO wasn't a first BALCI right. I hear all that about jeter. I'm not I'm not here for any of it. Get eight four four two four riches the number to dial here on the show So I'm here again. The number of people that are talking about this super bowl right right now. It's it's better than it's bigger than last year with the Rams and the and the Patriots. I'm already hearing. I'm already hearing more and more people talking about this Super Bowl within the first twenty four forty eight hours than last you think people just had patriots fatigue last year. Oh my gosh rain plays yeah. It's Rams I'm up seeing the rams weren't a great story and you know we're we're very partial to the rams. I just think that folks are just totally fascinated by mahomes. Oh I think so about that. And that the chiefs so many people like the rams last year had had so many of these players on their fantasy team so even the casual fans know who so many of these people coming into the Super Bowl is is an just the forty niners. Having the cachet of a of a franchise attached to Montana young and he talked about a casual fan. I got both the casual fan. Knows who Jimmy Garoppolo is. I think so I think so too but you know I'm not yet ready and again and this might be part of my Achilles heel and doing job like this but I'm just not yet ready to talk about who needs it more more on the line already starting not not ready for the WHO's got more pressure. Oh Yeah I'm not ready for the I'm here for the matchup I'm here for the XS. and Os factor my favorite one on. I take this morning is Do the Patriots regret trading. Jimmy G. I'm I'm I mean I'm not saying but these don't have But their value twelve days out. You're just not ready for yet and again. I don't know if that turned I'm fifty and I'm like I'm like suddenly looking at thermostats wondering why who put the Thermostat to this or how loud it is during the national championship game with the bands. I don't know if that's just I'm just not ready to go there yet. Because we're going to go there. I mean wait till you hear our guest list for Miami. We're very proud of it. We're very excited about it. We're going to talk about this with every single one of our guests. How Special Ed and tomorrow is when I'm GonNa Start turning the page about two? Are The the story. Lines are just not ready to go there yet but homes the way he can extend a play the way that he can can extend to play and you can't really hit him because he's faster than most any also keeps his head down the field so he remains a passer. And you're in that you you know obviously Watson is like that guy but Lamar Jackson is shown this year he can be that guy to the tune of an MVP caliber season but mahomes has. That firehose was that he can throw it anywhere. He wants against his grain of his body to anyone he wants. And he'll stare at the defenders while throwing it there. He is that special he really is that special and I think by the time kickoff hits it's going to be a full. Maybe mahomes fatigue even though he is new in all this because of the way you know folks in the media with a microphone in front of like the Guy Right here. We'll be talking talking about him. I mean I can't sing his praises enough. I got ratios on twitter for the first time by talking about his remarkable twenty seven yard run at the end of the half. And so here's ability to do that is second to none in the NFL. We saw again to Shawn Watson at one of the player of the year getting kicked in the eye and still keeping his head down the field. So that's I'm not saying it's. It's the easy only to do it. I'm saying he is the best at it and who's the best at rushing the passer in the NFL forty nine or no question about it the gold crush. That's correct act. Thank you for using that and I mentioned that to deferred last week. He gave me an e for effort. DEFOREST buckner there's about to join us and ANA bounce off a him but again the fact that D Ford and Buckner and Bosa just to name named three are six hands in the dirt in Miami. That's to me what this is all about. How can the chiefs maybe get some running game to slow these guys down? What will this offensive line? That is terrific in its own writing. Kansas City do do you WanNa talk about XS and Os and we will and we're going to get deeper into all of this K- that to me is the essence of Super Bowl. Fifty for how can mahomes be contained in the pocket. How can he be hit outside the pocket before he can do damage? Can you reach him. Will he be able to gain the edge as he did against the titans as he did against the Texans will he be able to gain that edge that the niners have been so expert in cutting off for virtually every other quarterback that they faced is Damian Williams the guy to get enough rushing yards in enough balanced like we saw in the third quarter against the titans to get the chiefs through the Shawn. McCoy lurks out there too. He was inactive for the AFC championship game. Will he be active for the Super Bowl. I proffered say he would be that run game against this defense. Will it be effective enough or will allow folks like our first guest today to pin ears back and go hunt fifteen. He's first up then. We just decided we had in our meeting yesterday before we turn the page completely to Super Bowl. Oh fifty four. What to make of the packers season fourteen wins again? Aaron Rodgers at fourteen wins including the playoffs this year. The only quarterback with more is Jimmy Garoppolo because the homes didn't start off games this year rodgers and the packers by all metrics. You would have to say exceeded expectations and yet. There's so many in Wisconsin even going into the game wondering if Rogers Rogers at a good enough season to merit. What I believe is five six seven more years in this league certainly certainly in Green Bay? I'm already seen packers twitter. Maybe they should be drafting a quarterback and moving on looking for the next one mean rodgers isn't forty. He's in his mid thirties. Just turned thirty six so in twenty twenty. NFL years we're talking. That's that's a young pop when you're looking at what breeze and Breyer doing. And what Big Ben were assuming he's going to do and he comes back. So James Jones NFL Network analyst. I and Longtime Packer we're going to have him come on the show and I guess if you will Talk about what the Packers Dade in what we should think about them now that they are no longer with us in the twenty nineteen. NFL One hundred season and speaking of picking through the ashes. Tommy John we'll we'll be here in studio new movie. Colorado space will be here. Tommy was trending on twitter over the weekend. He was at the UFC fight all right and he was He was it was interesting. Shot of Tommy. We dressed the camera made a nice up and smoke type of hand movement and And then there was a dude behind him with is is a belly button sticking out of his shirt so it went viral. That's one of the things we talked about with. Tommy Chong can't wait that's our number three. Your phone calls eight four four two four rich number. Dial we've got the poll question great stat from last night's NBA action. That's my favorite stat of the decade. The House leader Twenty one twenty one days in. That's all still to come but coming up next a farce buckner of your NFC champion San Francisco. Forty niners right here on the rich Eisen show. What's up? Brian Deegan here. I'm excited to bring you our podcast. The DEGAN that will be every Wednesday on podcast one and apple podcast. We'll be covering many subjects such racing family. How we stay together? How he thrive is a family? So I think it's exciting. We're going to cover. All the subjects aches and many more check out our new podcast. The begins airing every Wednesday on podcast one and on Apple podcasts. Don't forget to subscribe rate and review. Welcome to the rich Eisen show He came on. I believe last time was after the niners took care of the does the saints during the play regular season. I don't recall exactly when but I enjoyed the conversation then and I'm going to join us now. And he is in the Super Bowl now so I imagine sneeze even a better mood deforest buckner of your NFC champion forty niners back here on the rich Eisen show. How are you sir? I'm doing great. Thank you for having me come on now. You're in the Super Bowl. I'm I'm still soaking it. All in you know what I mean. I mean it's just it's crazy to think about. You know what I mean playing on. Yeah I mean the world's one of the world's biggest stages I'm still soaking it. All in I mean so where are you now in terms of tickets and people calling you. Walk me through your are your Your world right now. Last night I just Got None situating everything with my wife. Okay yeah I got got ten family members coming You know we have to you know figure out flights and hotel and and all that but it's it's all done it's all behind me Knox. Focus on ball. Okay so Did you have to tighten the rotation here. I mean Just ten right ten. Yeah just immediate family from my side and in my wife sides and then now and then your wife is now the conduit for everything. You're just you're in the bunker. Defar deforest forest bunker basically buckner bunker love it so when you get drafted your drafted by the forty niners into to the chip Kelly era and they had just one and done Tomasulo going into all that What what is it like now compared to when you first got to the if we not as far yeah it's completely different You know when I when I first got in You know it was like locker room wise just just in the locker room and general. Imagine there was you know clicks in the locker room. You know what I mean and You know I just trying to navigate my way as as a rookie but You know the the the guys that have been brought in over the course of the past three years I mean I love them all and You know what I mean. It's just one big Brotherhood hood and That's the type of team that Carla John of them building a building over the past three years Just just a bunch of a bunch of guys playing for each other. It really good teammates man on I love more and so What what would you say is the common theme On all these teammates that have been brought in and that that has caused this cohesive scenario. Obviously there's a culture that that that Coach and general manager can bill. But what is the I guess character trait that might be similar here. Divorce yeah honestly everybody's Ab- selfless. You know what I mean It's you know what we can do for each other. You know what I mean when when things are going wrong or bad or any of that nobody points fingers. Everybody's trying to figure out what they can do to to help the team. And that's that's my biggest thing I pull from. Well you know I don't I don't see any selfish guys in the locker room. That are you know care. They don't care about you know personal stats all this stuff. It's what they can. Do you know to the best of their abilities is to help the team deforest. buckner forty niners defensive Lineman here on the rich Eisen show and then obviously Before John and then John got there to just constantly hitting the defensive line with first overall selections will certainly for a team but first round selections. You are one of that And and this group together. Let's discuss your group together. And what makes you guys clicked so well yeah Obviously we we knew especially in the beginning of the season that allows invested in in our room. You know what I mean With the you know high draft picks he's bringing in In all of that and so we we know we know how how much was invested into our room and we knew that To Go as far as you want it to go that we would be a big part of it and we had to. You know we have to own up to that challenge and we had to meet expect- expectations and Just going into the season season you know in the Ot as and training camp we we want it to be one of the hardest working groups and and To kind of set the temple. You know for practice. I guess whatever it was and and a big part of that is to Chris CA- Sarah. I'm bringing Chris in and helping us out. You know bringing us You you know a whole `nother level has been phenomenal for the group and you can just see it. On Sundays. They Edgy. We play with and you and Solomon Thomas and an Armstead armstead and Bosa. You know you guys of all accounted for eight of the nine sacks this postseason. I the the guys who are taken in the first round and I don't know if you're aware of all that the paid attention to that now. It's my job I guess. But it's also my job In the media to try and make you a collective I as a as a defensive line group into a unit that we can just call by one name. I know you don't have a nickname right as a unit corral de Ford Pass along to you the one that I put forth to him for all of you did he mention it to you. He did not mention. I would've it may come on now I know you had an NFC champ game and get ready for but what's deformities. Default is just slacking on the job. Here it is deforest okay. Let's let's hear the gold old crush the goad crush. Okay okay you know it has a little ring to it. You know I mean okay now. I know you'RE A. You're a young guy but the Denver defense back in the eighties nineties Was the orange crush. Oh okay all right. I hear me out here the cheerleaders that you have is the gold rush right your the gold rush. You see what I'm saying that that might that might just stick Dick now might just not just saying that to me because I had to get passed through the board. You know what I mean so I'll throw it around ought to dealing knows. Dropped the ball. Okay you divorced buckner you need to carry. Sorry this rock into your room. I got you if you don't mind make it happen because I mentioned that it would it it truly in this might speak to who I am as a person and what I've got going on for me this would make my world it really. Would it would just if I could name you guys as a unit the gold crush Josh Okay. You're not just your I'm GonNa Pass. It ought that I look forward to going to the podium at media night on mundane saying you know what I wish for you all to call us the gold crush. We gotta get it passed dude aboard. What would we support? Who's the board WHO's the the entire D. Line so both of opposes not going to go with a Michigan Guy? I'm screwed unfinished. Just because it's coming from for me just won't do it on principle that that might be. That might be true but we'll see all right. How's he been neck? What's he added to this? Mix Brother He's he's he's been phenomenal You know what I mean as a young guy you forget that. He's a rookie. Honestly the way he carries himself he prepares themselves for the game I mean he's a he's a true pro and you know it's great 'cause because You know I I could still learn. Learn things from him on a daily basis. You know what I mean and you know we just like the you know run and ideas by each other. He's open book so is everybody else on the line and To to have a player like him and his caliber. You know in our group. I mean it's it's a blessing man The to have you know him and D. Eric Solomon We can go a whole list of names on the the line. You know what I mean. you know everybody is comfortable with each other and you know we can run ideas by each other and we just played for each other so is this is a group all around deforest buckner here on the rich Eisen show and now comes. What a challenge for you in front of you in Patrick Mahomes who has just a few days left as the reigning? MVP of of our league And his ability to stretch a play and then throw to virtually anybody at any point on the field. If you can't get to him in time I wonder what you think of this challenge in in front of you with him. No Yeah The guy's a superstar A He has can't afford an arm. You know really accurate of obviously consider anywhere on the field and His ability to extend plays as you know on a whole another level so you know as a group we gotta do a really good job with containing them in the pocket Kit And really getting through Murli and also rallying till you know all the screens and you know the quick game that they do so we I just need to be on our PS and QS And also just contain the speed that they have you know receiver. Obviously there. They they have a lot of weapons on the outside. And you you know I am I running back. So we have a really good overall job with containing their speed role prior to this Obviously you had Lamar Jackson in your sights earlier earlier this year and I imagine that was a challenge That I'm would you say similar to the one. I'm I'm wondering what what what you take out of that experience. It's Yeah Lamar. Obviously he's a whole another speed. I Different different playing styles. You know what I mean. There's he's more of a collegiate running back at quarterback you know what I mean is different game plan. You know especially dealing with that type of offense but I mean you could take things away with with you. Know obviously trying to contain them in the pocket and And all that kind of and in that sense so and his ability to extend play so we still similar traits rates but I feel like a different different type of player. While it's definitely the the offenses are are in different parts of our football universe in terms of of their Styles and strain and ability to put points on the board. They both can do that. They just have different methods in which to get back to that spot. I just wanted to just try just a mere aspect of when. Can you hit a quarterback or not like. Is this guy a runner were not and and and Mahomes is run at the end of the first half against brightens. It's been put in front front and center. As as the latest example of defender sender not really wondering when you can hit a quarterback or not and suddenly. He's twenty yards down the field. I wonder what you think. Yeah no exactly you know. Hopefully as he watches film throughout throughout the past two weeks leading up to the game you know you can see that with our defense or I've We're pretty fast defense. And we'd like to swarm and you know and watching. I'm watching the film. He would he would take a financial decision in running out of bounds or sliding. I love the way you just put attack you. tiptoe down that sideline yourself with your words right there that was nominal their business decisions that you and the rest of the gold crush ashforth see how I used it in a sense right there exactly. Yeah that makes sense right. It didn't it didn't sound okay So when do you when do you I guess. Get into film room. What your schedule this week can you got? We have a pretty normal week. I mean I'm watching. How many there watching watching film today? Yeah you're already there. Oh yeah they. They got it uploaded on our IPAD. So this is so exciting. I mean I I'm glad that you you and your your family or are situated already in the logistics or handled. Because that's for the twenty years. I brought close. I've done this. It seems can really turn some people around so you you know and then now you can just focus on everything. This is exciting for you. Perform let you go Justin her we saw what he did in the Rose Bowl. How effective effective you think he can be at this next level as we turn the page towards the draft for thirty other teams too far? I think he's A. He's a great quarterback. He he is the size. Is You know what I mean. he He has the legs Late talent and I mean he. He has a candidate for an arm. So I honestly think he he would do really well at this level and you know obviously hopefully A team to help them develop as a player. And you know. I'm I'm excited to see where he goes in the draft. Yeah I'm I'm I think you know He's got all the talent in the world. I just figured you know you WanNa talk about a another duct before I let you go. Thank you thank you for the time to forest. I really appreciate it. I know you got a lot going going on you spinning plates now and they're getting ready for your biggest game of your your life in your career there. Good luck in it. I hope I cross paths with the down in Miami. I really appreciate the call. I appreciate that having me again. Rich right back at you. That's deforest Buckner at deforest buckner on twitter. Love that Guy Twenty fifteen he. He and his teammate. From Oregon went ten picks apart in the first round in two thousand fifteen first round picks deforest buckner armstead instead. Go get them. Put them on the defensive line and then actually armstead was in two thousand fifteen and then buckner in two thousand sixteen and they hit them both back to back years and then buckner was taken four picks after Solomon Thomas Remember Salman Almond. Thomas was John Lynch's classmate when Lynch went back to school thornton melon and they were together in Stanford man the Forest Buckner and then Solomon Thomas. Those are three years in a row. Armstead Buckner Thomas and then boasts of the Ford. That to telling you man. That's the Super Bowl is about. What's the contrasting contrasting styles? Well what the niners can throw A to. It's just they choose not to or they decided they didn't have to or they saw that things. Were working so well I mean just when you look at San Francisco you feel like they play an old school style of football a run it really well and they play great defense that chief Sir like like a video game but the chiefs played pretty good defense to now. I mean. Obviously if you'RE GONNA be choosing a tale of the tape which teams defense do choose. Obviously obviously if you're going to choose a tale of the tape in which teams offense you're gonNA choose right you choose the chiefs right but both of them can really the maneuver the football and scheme their way into the end zone with some seriously physical players on the forty niners side of the field in terms of Kelsey Chelsea on the chiefs side of the field. The chiefs can just run right by you but you feel like the chiefs could hit a home run any play but close whereas you don't really feel that with San Francisco but they can you remember that story. Kettle said going in the week the one then I guess the the game which he had like almost two hundred yards receiving or something like that. And he's going to the week Shanahan's like you're going to score a touchdown on this play all right this week. And he did from like seventy yards out can score from any point on the field all of a sudden but I think people have question marks about Jimmy. Jean being able able to win it again. This I'm just telling you Mann's I'm formulating my story lines for the week. One I think is going to be who is is Jimmy G.. Not like as a person but the quarterback because they didn't they ran it twenty eight times out of the final thirty four plays after. He threw an interception reception as the Vikings and he only through eight passes in the NFC championship game. But as you will find out Chris there is a child like element in calling place. What do I mean by this when Jessie tuggle. Oh Brockman is old enough to reach the buttons on an elevator. Okay and you say. Press the button. Jessie Tuggle Brockman and Jessie Tuggle. Brockman hits the floor. Say floor too because it's lower. Jessie Tuggle Brockman will hit that button. Ninety Times in your life gets good. We're good we're good we got it. It's it's good. It's lit that was Kyle Shanahan with the run game in the NFC championship game. I'm just going to keep hitting that button because it's so much fun button. All I love hitting this button and your lights lit and your kid will look at you and go right. That's why I'm hitting the button. That was Shannon comb the place in the NFC championship game with the running game. Why would you stop hitting the button when it's so enjoyable? Hit that button. Even though it's lit I get it but I just casual fans. He's a guy with one hundred thirty seven million dollars contract and wonder of wonders. Why is only throwing eight times? Eight four four two zero four rich rich number dial when we come back the stat of the decade clubhouse leader stat of the decade. I love this debt. Chris you in particular will bring a smile to your face skull. That's next on this edition of the rich Eisen show. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting this podcast certainly couldn't do this show without either of you. I wanted to remind you that you can support my sponsors by going to my show page at podcast. One DOT COM clicking on the support this podcast cast button and there. You'll see all of my wonderful sponsors that help make this show possible. So thank you for downloading subscribing of course supporting now back to the show Lillard brings it up into the front court behind his back crosses over dribble step back free on the way ties the game he brings it up. It's a scream. From whiteside goes left. Crossover free for the Thai got a new career. High with eleven by Damian Lillard free throw on the way got it. Sixty they wanted for Damian Lillard. He breaks his ties record and the Blazers beat the warriors won twenty nine one twenty four but a game. What a game on the blazers describe my favorite part? Last night was watching Carmelo. Anthony Hallam Open. It was just too much fun I got so many stats based on this This is brought to you by NBA pick which is your chance to win this NBA season. Lock in your game predictions to build up your pick and points towards awesome. NBA Prizes play free at NBA Dot com slash. Pick 'em these are the stats. It's too ready for this one. Most points scored by a player. Six two were shorter in NBA history. Well first player in NBA would sixty You're more points than ten or more three pointers in a game. Wow do you want to guess the The fifth player in NBA History Multiple Games with ten or more three pointers. Would you care to guests with the other. Four are steph curry correct. Klay Thompson correct. Who they're all? They're all active. There's one other obvious one. James Harden direct active that Bob. Is he active. I don't know he's active. Kyle Korver nope. You're getting warmer while you're on you're on the right team. Underwrite team I can give you jared Smith. That's correct. Could you look at you. Yeah he's not currently on a team that first player six six or shorter with multiple sixty point games in NBA be a history six player in NBA History Multiple Sixty Point Games wilt koby hardened Jordan Elgin Baylor speaking of Jordan. This great we went speaking of joy. Oh Baby I love this debt. Congratulations to Kemba Walker. Last night was his first career win against a team with Lebron James on an SA that all those years for Kemba Walker Walker on Jordan's team. He was all for twenty eight in his career going into last night. Celtics beat down. The Lebron Lakers go bad. He's now won in twenty eight in his career against Lebron James it snaps the second longest and losing streak in NBA history. which is which is back again now to while this is I love this wilt versus Rick Edelman is that true recod- on versus wilt? Is that what it is Rick Edelman Wow versus will was only twenty three and mark. All boarding was twenty three and was in two thousand three against worthy the all-time mark of a player being winless against another. That's amazing. Here's the old Tom Sherman. Douglas was Owen. Thirty against Michael Jordan. General Sherman all and I never beat Michael Jordan wow syracuse alleged. I just loved that stat. That you know what before we Wrap up this first hour here. We were talking about Andy Reid Saint. He had a cheeseburger choose burger and went to bed. That's how he was asked yesterday how he celebrated the win in the AFC championship guy and she's wearing and went to bed. And we talked about this on the television only segment. I want to bring it to the radio audience because I love them. Just as much I said medium rare right. That's how I order my Burger. You said Brockman you like yours. Medium medium on the Burger. Because you figure that it's going to be somewhat undercooked so you might as well order it up a little bit order up for the Burger right and and I said I'll do medium rare and if it comes to rare I'll send it back which you guys started creating a big stink over that. Yeah that I that I just absolutely run the entire universe by saying look. Hey would you mind Senate used for I I I rarely do it but if it is just bleeding and it's too rare and I'm concerned that it's not cooked enough do me. Would you mind back in the the oven for two more minutes. Patent back on the griddle for two more minutes. Whatever what's wrong with that? That is Known I mean it's a No. No you're Kinda no no. You're putting your foods fate back in the person who created it and they thought it was perfect when it came out. How do they know how do you know they thought it was perfect? Because they played at it maybe played it mainly played it. They made it they play. They crafted it. And you're saying Sir and do eight do a better. What what not better more to the way that I I like it? You know it's all. It's all apples and oranges to use an American. That's tough man. Hold on a second so you are saying. And you're you both worked in the I did. Yeah so you've you've witnessed a chef being so no I've never witnessed set. I worked at a like taught in a special sauce on it by handing it back for all. But I've heard stories of people doing that. Ryan Reynolds did a whole movie about it. Is it so wrong to send something. Is it so wrong. Send something back to the kitchen saying. Excuse me I just think can you please not like. I'm not saying I want to order something else. And then suddenly or no way that you've made it is not palatable so I don't want it anymore I'm saying I just would like tighten the bolts a little bit. I just think it's a little disrespect. Yeah no it's not how it's disrespectful because you're saying I didn't like the way you created this yes I trusted you when I ordered it and then now it came out and I'm like yeah do a better better rubs me the wrong. The kitchen is the kitchen. That's sensitive. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah exactly caddyshack. I was just GONNA play. That actually is the metric metric by which we're awful. Well I mean I'm not saying it's no I'm saying if it comes out just eat it. Don't go back to the restaurant calls for all right. 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Falcoholic Interview: Evan Birchfield

The Falcoholic

52:37 min | 1 year ago

Falcoholic Interview: Evan Birchfield

"This is the podcast. The official PODCAST. The Atlanta Falcons on the espy nation. Podcast network. I'm David Walker. He guys to call me. And this is the next part in our series of podcasts. Were you will listener. We'll get to know. Our stable of writers over at the COM. Next guest is to any of you who listen to our podcast. During the season he is my co host on the post game. Podcast is one of variety at the site. I'm talking of course. Evan Burchfield Evan. How are you doing man? I'm doing great. I'm ready to just talk about myself and be selfish here. Yes obviously this is all about getting to know the people who make up the Hollick DOT COM and make this podcast. You're a critical component of that. So let's jump into it first of all. Obviously I question Aid You Falcons Fan. And when did that happen so to summarize it because I could literally tells the story all day I was born in western North Carolina near Ashville. Which is the main city there And growing up before the Carolina Panthers came in there in Ninety five me and my Dad. went to Atlanta because it was actually about the same distance in my dad has is a lifelong Minnesota Vikings Fan since he was a kid. Mom because in he'd explain to me back then they didn't have you know today's youth in don't They think it's you. See All these different teams in stuff on TV all the time. And that's not how it was the main teams back. Then where you'd see the Dallas cowboys on Monday night football or whatever the same Cisco Forty niners packers. Whatever debt in the Vikings being one of them In it was the time of the Purple People Eaters. Or whatever ninety ways. He's he's a diehard vikings fan in the Vikings in nineteen ninety six. I was actually six years old Where playing in Atlanta so we went down in its Two two and a half hour drive so we went down to Atlanta Georgia. Dome and I I mean I was only six so unfortunately like I don't remember a whole lot of the game. I know the Falcons did of course lose the game Seventeen to twenty three I think tomorrow Anderson was on the roster I don't think June Jones might have been the coach Aside from that I mean. That's all obviously stuff. I looked at after like I was a kid in. The nose bleeds. Like I don't remember anything about the game. Got Some pictures from it and stuff like that but he took me. You know thinking I would become Minnesota Vikings fan like him. I don't know if it was the black jerseys black helmet just the coolest they had or because they were the home team but ever since that moment I've been you could say unhealthily obsessed with being a fan. It's life I think the Falcons I this point is living an unhealthy. Life are so long you got started early. So what is one of your earliest memories? And obviously as Falcons fan it could be a fog gallery or obviously be a very non positive memory. What's your earliest memories watching this team I mean when I think back to obviously like the dirty dancing Jamal Anderson like I I remember you know when you're older and you can look back like you're you realize yeah. He wasn't the best running back that ever lived but when I was young I thought he was God on off-field leg of the way he was his big dude who could You know and they even look bigger back then because in today's football they have. Everything's tighter the uniforms. Tighter shoulder pads on its big back. Then it was bulky in. He had a big shoulder pants. He had that face. Macs with the little. I don't know what it is but it's like old school little horn or whatever like the little U. shape thing In I just thought he was like amazing so doing the dirty bird eventually going on to the NFC championship against my dad's team. Obviously but in the Super Bowl but That I loved Tim to White I just I just remember being in North Carolina Even though we were so close it was rare. That like a rarity to be a falcons fan or see Falcons fans in anytime you did. It was like this big thing 'cause I mean it wasn't like you see how you go to the store and see like the cowboys had or something even today. I guess you could say it's the same but It was almost like a honor. Like self honor where it's like. Wow you know. I'm the Falcons Fan. This is unique. There's not a lot out there but then eventually you get on twitter and you're like oh there's a ton of yeah but when you're back in the days of Social Media. I didn't know any falcons fans. Yeah it's It's interesting you you'd think for a team like the Falcons which doesn't have the broad appeal like you mentioned the cowboys or forty niners. It does seem like regionally for a period of time. The Falcons were very popular with fans in other states. I I know someone that lives in Winston Salem North Carolina. Who is still to this day? A Hardcore Falcons Fan. Even after the panthers came in. Yeah because originally there were the only team really for him to to root for so. Yeah and here's a here's a fun fact. You know it the Falcons. It's like that first game I went to. That's the only home game I've ever been to. I've been to probably ten or more away games. You know in Florida where I live in. I am into a home a home game since. Yeah it's actually something that's relatively true for several of our writers at the Alchoholic Dot Com including our made editor. Dave coates lives in the northeast. We will not pinpoint his location for those who would stock him but moving on. We're here to talk about Evan number three. When did you start actually writing about this team and in what drove you to actually write about Instead of just simply being fan well for me. It started with twitter Which is basically writing. You're just not writing a long article you know you just put up your thoughts during games or after games. Whatever in early Are Corey Woodrow Foods with the Foul Golic? Now he was with risa breeder And you know I got to know corean stuff and I went onto right there for I think like a season I think the twenty seventeen season In Corey obviously came to the Falco Hollick and already knew pretty much all of the writers anyways just through twitter and stuff But I got an opportunity to write for the Falcon Holly in I've been doing that since Twenty November twenty eight team so It's it's I I enjoy it. It's fun to know that people are reading your stuff in some disagree in some degree in just being able to share your thoughts with people. You know even this kind of stuff where people want to listen to my background like. That's an incredible thing I will say for those listening if you're looking to interact with alcohol and its various writers twitter's absolutely under percent the place to do it. Most of us have very significant Twitter presences and Evan is no exception. I exception exceptions so and it's not just football. We'll talk to you about anything. Oh really yeah. I think if you're just looking to get to know the people who also enjoy watching the Falcons get tortured by team. Twitter's the place to do it All right so not. You've been writing about the team for a couple of years. You've been on twitter. You've been at the alcoholic What is one of the worst takes where you look bagging? Fake Oh man a wish. Take those words back because Sarong I I mean the ones that instantly come to mind. I remember being like amped when we signed Ray Edwards. Probably like we'll unease too easy one where like a lot of people share that same opinion but I remember just the excitement like I remember. I told you where I was like I was. I was working at Sports Authority in college and I was like. I went to the restroom to read it. You know and I'm like Oh my God we side Ray Edwards. 'cause I think the eagles were the other team. That was like rumored to be interested in. I thought Oh this is gonNA change stuff. Obviously that fell flat on the other. One is more recent I guess In another easy one but miles jack I remember wanting him in when the Falcons passed on. Komo Neil like like. I didn't have anything negative to say about Neil but I was like what is wrong with this team like war. Why would you pass on Miles Jack? Like he fell into your lap. But you know I guess both of them in hindsight have Kinda had some injuries like So but I mean when Kiana kneels on the field. He's incredible so yeah. I write that up as a self Where state you were alone. In absolutely Ray Edwards was all many of us are always many of us. Were in that boat. So Yeah. The former underwear model did not workout for On the flip side one of your best takes. Maybe you saw player. He thought okay. This guy is and I'm a fan of him and and other people were aboard or someone that early on you thought they were going to pan out and it turned out that they did. Well if you follow me on twitter My most infamous one is probably the Giorgio. Takeo Oh no where like. Everyone was grilled me for but I didn't think he proved enough to keep him and I know he went like eight for eight. In what would that have been twenty twenty eighteen from the team He went like eight for eight He you know he did have a great. He did a great job but I thought it was. Bizarre that Falcon just handed him the Job In we're kind of in that same situation now Where the Falcons haven't brought any competition yet in for Cou. I mean they probably will because there's still a lot of time between now and Preseason but yeah that would probably be one of my better takes because I was in I spent like the whole off-season like why are you just giving this man the job? Then they eventually bring Blair Walsh who was like the King of choking on big kicks like it was like they just doubled down on it and then eventually Matt. Brian came back. But in all die on the hill that it was the place holding a having a rotation of hunters last year that really ruined it for Matt. Bryant's return That's probably another argument for another day. Yeah probably so I will say I do want to remind our readers listeners that it was Evan in not the national writers that broke the News Matt Bryant Being Adam Schefter and Ian rapoport steal my source it is also I wanNA give a shout out to Jack Crawford member. There was at one year. Yeah where like he was coming off the Think it was a torn triceps. It was like something on his arm. in like I was saying he's you know he's gone in for a big year he actually did have a career year any finish like tied for second in Sacks L. Probably me my other some weird best tanks. I will say I like Jack Crawford. Lot for being Just a quality player that Falcons didn't have to spend a lot of money on so yeah and I've got I've gotten to know him personally and he. He really is a genuine Full like a quality person. You know you hear these stories of some of these guys were just like jerks. They liked the fame. Go to their head in just being in the league but he he really is a nice to now. He's in Tennessee. Yeah as as many falcons are all right. So what is something that our readers listeners may not know about you? That's interesting different unique I'm a Disney annual pass holder. 'cause I live in Florida so years ago I got bored in. I used to like put on social media mainly facebook like pictures I would go to Disney and take pictures and put that on there So then eventually I made a facebook page and you can go to. If you're a fanatic. it's FACEBOOK DOT COM SLASH. Disney annual pass holder or on instagram. It's the same thing instagram dot com slash Disney annual pass holder And I have like over to. I think twenty twenty two thousand followers or something. I just share. Yeah it's it's a hobby like I don't get paid for it and stuff but it's it's just like if you're a Disney Fan Theme Parks whatever I share like news on there and pictures and that kind of stuff. So that's kind of my random didn't know about me. Think wow I didn't. That's very cool and taught to almost every week during the season. That's all right the a penultimate question before you head into our break Your favorite all time Falcons player actually Clarify doesn't have to be a falcons player last week. Dropped a couple of names. Neither which were falcons players. Yeah but your favorite player all-time and why my favorite player all time in why That's tough 'cause I I literally could name like six or seven right now. That like I consider amazing. Early wasn't mean yeah Favorite player of all time. I mean I Brett Farr I guess would be. I just loved how he was like not really a rebel but a rebel to the position where it was just completely different than the pocket. Passers like this is mainly because yeah because when I was growing up you know it's like there was like Dan Marino and I guess Joe Montana was on his way out like Week men A lot of these kind of passers Kinda similar where Brett Farve. It just seem like he was totally different in. I know he was on the packers who I'm not a fan of in stuff but I always thought like. He's one of my favorite players. I don't know that's a tough question to be honest because like I said there's like I feel guilty for leaving out so many names. No that's great answer. I mean yeah and I've always wanted a Brett farve throwback Jersey just to have it because you know why not. I think it's fascinating. That he played for the Falcons even though it was only for what a year one year for Jerry. Glanville ship them off. Yeah and actually. I was watching the other day that there's a nfl time-line thing. It's like the nineteen ninety-one Falcons. It's very interesting For anyone who is in that kind of thing I will say about four of the one the one stat that I just love about him is that when he retired he led the NFL touchdowns and he was number one interceptions as well. The guy was the the truest definition of NFL quarterback gunslinger. That you he would throw in the traffic if there were four guys. He didn't care. He thought his arm was strong enough to fit it into a small window and times. It was but he was often proven wrong. Do Yeah definitely but a fun. Fun Fun player. Watch love watching him play and he was in. You didn't grow up in the nineties like he was huge in the nineties He sometimes gets forgotten Like you know talking about the modern quarterbacks like peyton manning. Tom Brady drew brees obviously but Brett. Farve was like back in the nineties. He was one of the top. Dudes like dance. Oh Oh yeah the without a doubt that if not the guy up a period of time so All right. I'm a narrow. This down to the Falcons go to break. This next question is who is your favorite active. Falcons player. And why just one right to swim? Gosh my favorite I mean it has to be Julio Dudes incredible It's one of those things. Where like if he played for in I hate. I hate that this thing. But the hall of fame shows as National Media shows if Julio Jones played for the steelers or the cowboys or you know one of them. Big Market teams be literally considered one of the greatest of all time. He's had earned that even with like the Falcons thing holds it against him. He's just incredible him. Calvin Johnson I think out of this kind of newer generation are the best receivers you know going back to Algeria. Rice and stuff. Rainy Moss obviously could be one of them but just a super rare talent in. We've been blessed to be able to watch him You see him in big moments how he actually does step up on like wider Some other ride wide receivers around the league. Who Don't run very deep routes. But Julio when you needn't he's there you know I'm not GonNa talk about that. Well I know I know. It's probably going to be one of the questions soon but for now. I'm not going to talk about that event that we gave us all depression but who he stepped up in. He did his job. He did not do his job in that game. It's one of those things where it'll be lost in time. But he really is a phenomenal player in not only that he is A. He has diva talent in his nut. He's furthest thing from it. Some people probably don't even know what he sounds like like just a professional even in interviews where he's ambushed by TMZ to try and get him to throw dirt on Matt Ryan or something. The Dude is class. The Way and Eric Robinson our in our last Getting to know the writers series podcast mentioned the same thing. We talked about the fact that you've got these other wide receivers You look at the US Obviously Antonio Brown in Turlough wins in his time. There were incredible talents but along with that came a lot of headaches. And with Julio like the biggest headache that we've had was if very very short holdout which was lasted entire week. Yeah and he wasn't trashing the team or anything no not at all like he was quiet through the entire thing and it just says so much about the player character in Like you said he's. He is a diva talent without the drama. That goes minute so Love the answer Before we get into the remaining questions about Evan. 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Every Tuesday and Friday. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. We're back on the PODCAST. Is David Walker? I'm speaking with my friend Co host during the rhythm season on the post game podcast Burchfield. We're talking about his time. As a falcons fan some of the things finds him that defines his His wife as a Falcon Span And Ever GonNa dive into these remaining questions to the fancy little bit a little bit better. So we've talked about your all time favorite player your favorite current player but the one who are your top three all time Atlanta Falcons like if you were if you're thinking about Evan Burchfield as a teenager putting posters on his wall who were those three guys. They're going to be those posters on Evans. Birchfield's wall now candice Not Be like I don't have to do this politically correct because all like this is to me in how they make me feel right huns. Oh yes I would have to say because in Tommy notice absolutely deserves to be up there. I didn't watch him play like I. You know I find it that you need to have watched. These people play to fully understand like what made them great. Unfortunately I mean. I didn't get to watch him play. I'm not that old but Matt Ryan. For what he's done you know for the franchise We've been lucky to have a franchise quarterback you can talk about. You know super bowls and stuff like that. But he's given us a chance every single year in. It hasn't always been his fault so he'd be one with him Matt Bryant because he's like my him. I Love Brian. But a lot of Matt Ryan's comebacks you know in those early years was off the map. Bryant's leg and we were blessed to have a kicker for so long who was clutch. You know in those moments. I think the true. What worries me is that that last year where you know there were struggles. Obviously I mentioned I think it's it was having a different punter and placeholder every week Not Helping but when you go. Let's say like a decade from now. Hopefully fans aren't thinking. Oh yeah remember how it ended like remember the Times. Where like against the seahawks where he steps up in makes a big kick. Matt Ryan used to get him into field goal range to where he can make. These fifty yard kicks to win the game. You know in a lot. The accolades obviously go to quarterback has got him down there. But a lot of Matt Ryan Wins. I actually did a Falcon holic. I think last year on a lot of the winds came from Brian Light. So He's definitely In my top three and I said it Julio Jones I gotTa keep him up there some great top three. It's just it's tough because like there's a lot of people who deserve to be on the list that I did watch. You know that I like Tony Gonzalez. I love Tony Gonzalez. But there's no way I can knock one of these guys off of the list Michael Turner I loved. Him Chris Chandler was like my first like real quarterback as a fan like I always had a soft spot for him. I even had a Chris Chandler Jersey. And if you're looking on the FALCONS DOT COM. I'll have the picture will be up there but Yeah I'd have to go Matt Ryan Map Right. Julio Jones because that's my teenage years into my present that those were the three instrumental and You know being fan I. Let's be honest. The best stretch of continuous. Winning seasons in Falcons history happened with those three guys team. Anchoring like you said that the comebacks we often talk about Matt Ryan his comebacks and he obviously one hundred percent deserves credit for them but same time. Many of them as you noted came on the heels of Matt Bryant Punching in many clutch field goals. And I don't want any listener to forget the fact that Matt Bryant was as clutch as they came and It fantastic lists of completely agree with you a little bit of a different note. Because in the time the falcons have been around they have had some interesting Yeah obviously we've got Dan Quinn. Currently we've had a guys leg. Do Jones Just a whole host Mike Smith but who is your all time? Favorite Falcons coach doesn't even have to be the most winningest coach used to coach. You enjoy watching or whatever your reason. This well just for the sake of picking one. I guess I'll go Dan Quinn but like I really don't have a favorite Like I'm not willing to go to bat for any of I think it's they had so much. You know like Dan Quinn. He's had so much talent in obviously couch in played a part in that Mike Smith I believe is the most winningest coach Probably like what sixty something wins? He's at Dan Reeves I love the suddenness of like he just I mean growing up I remember thinking he was great in everything in He just he was. You see different techniques from these coaches or different coaching styles and stuff. We're Mike Smith. You saw little more passion You know during Games think wind has kind of that passion also. He's got that like where he wants to give inspirational. Speeches in quotes and stuff like that You know they're all very different. But I mean Dan Quinn he. I think he's had the most success in the years he's been given where you know you go to the Super Bowl You almost go back to the Super Bowl. you know. We've been in a dry spell recently but you know weird stuff like hey think wins going to get fired and then they all of a sudden go six and two or whatever you know and it's like I have you know we have mild I guess connections to the Locker Room where we can hear stuff in the one thing I've heard constantly in. It's now out in the media so everybody knows it but the players loved like they. They love him. They played their azoff foreign last year. Like they that's the reason he's still there because the players really tried to keep him and they they succeeded but they love Damn Clinton. I think that's the kind of coach you want Obviously everybody wants to win. But you know you want somebody who you want to play for. Its like leader. You know you want somebody who's GonNa Legion battle in Dan. Quinn is a guy you know and the I'm a big fan of in Queens and I know a lot of fans obsolete into this podcast in those read site a ready to move on from him but I feel like he's done a lot of things right. I'd I really hope. Twenty twenty goes well for him so to your point I like. He's he's connected with the players in the way that many of our other coaches have not and I think he does things right way so all. Right moving on Falcons players. We have seen quite a few come through either training camp or the team throughout the years. So on. Talk about the most underrated in the most overrated. That you've seen in your time watching the falcons. So we'll start with the first. The most underrated Falcons player in your mind that you see fans constantly criticizes person or Anti Consort Review like dare not appreciated in a way that I mean the obvious answers Matt Ryan but I'm sure like everyone else's picking net so I'm a go off in different but that's who I would pick is obviously what he's done for this franchise something. It's one of those things where once he leaves. You'll appreciate it more in it's unfortunate but that's how that's how it goes. You know the Miami Dolphins are doing that right now with Marina. They've been doing twenty years or whatever so for me. The most underrated in Like it's Jessie Tuggle. I just you forget. It's easy to forget. He was there but he was such a force. You know linebacker in. We've had you know even Tommi notice. These are guys who it pisses me off. But it's like even this past where Tommy no biscuit snub from the hall of fame. It's like these guys were great at what they did. It just ties back to that thing. I mentioned earlier about the Falcons by where it's like. They're on the Falcons so it not. It's a knock against them In a lot of these guys like Tommy no miss might can like. I didn't watch them play. It's been more research afterwards but Jessie tuggle actually did watch play I think he's severely underrated the linebacker. Yeah I mean I. Unfortunately it's not just one it's like. I have a list of Falcons Who were severely underrated. A lot of them were in the past in. It's a shame because you know if you WanNa underrate Matt Ryan. I think they'll be more appreciation when he's gone anyways. Because of just grady was for the franchise but it makes me sad to think of these guys like Jessie Tuggle Tommy Notice. Might Ken Hell I mean I know. Quant humphries in the hall of fame but Unfortunately this dude had ninety four and a half sacks is a falcon but unfortunately the. Nfl did not count sacks entitled the year after he retired he with the Eagles for two years and so Abraham John Abraham who's phenomenal not taking anything away from him but he gets credit as being the lead sack even though it's caught humphry but he's in the hall of fame so he doesn't have to worry about being underrated. But you know but there's a long list of guys like like you mentioned Mike and Thomas and stuff were underrated and if they had you know a steelers logo on their helmets. They would've already been in fame. Tom was on the I. Believe the nineteen sixties. Nfl decade team and not in the hall of fame even though like Dick Buck his But you look up the linebackers I guarantee you all of but maybe one is in the hall of fame. Aside notice it's it's a travesty really I know like even you can look at like billy white shoes. Johnson was Part one of the all decade teams and he was like one of them. He's like the only dude who's not in the hall of fame like. Yeah so my my underrated. Nece I guess comes from the bias of conspire all right. Flip side of that equation. Who is in your your mind when the most overrated? Where'd fans maybe got behind this player in a way that you didn't completely understand Ooh Cautioned I'm prepared to duck because the tomatoes are gonna be thrown at me. Ha Like I was a fan of Michael Vick right like throughout my childhood. You know he was the talk of the town like he explosive But like in Hindsight. It's like he didn't play that long in. Atlanta obviously He never threw for. I think more than twenty touchdowns I know he ran you know. Obviously he was running as much as he was passing. But you know stuff like that. It's like I didn't even win win. A whole like we went to the NFC championship in lost to the was at the eagles and that was like for this. You know he went in you know incredible talent I think he him like Dion Sanders impact came more from their prestige in like off of the field. Like giving a talking point to the Falcons Dion. Sanders had to go win super bowls elsewhere. But like he brought a notice to the city of Atlanta. You know what I mean like the same thing whereas like their impact was more off field strictly as a player. I mean I would say it's overrate he's overrated but I don't know I mean there's probably a lot of people who disagree with me on that but You know athletic. Of course there no debating it and like that but is he like one of you know. Some people say veteran Matt Ryan at quarterback like No. It's not even close a belief Critters actually chose my. I think it was James said Mike Vick as well. So you're you're not alone in that. I want to make it clear like it's not that I don't think he was a good player. It's just you know I wouldn't personally bill the statute for him. That's what I'm saying like you gotTa be here for like look at Ryan insecurities been here. How long he's been with the Falcons. Yeah we went to Bolton and great but like that success long-term vic brought more of a socially impact. We're you know all of a sudden. You're getting Monday night. Football Games in you know everybody wants to talk about the Falcons. 'cause the Nike commercials and stuff like that. But so I'm just speaking strictly as a player hundred percent all right. The most gratifying win for the Falcons. Since you've been watching them I mean it's gotta be the packers in the NFC championship a few years ago. And obviously that's probably because it's more recent but I have never felt more What correct where it is like I could ran through a brick wall. I would've been knocked out but I would have tried more like cocky confidence like we were. It wasn't like we defeated them. You know we beat the hell out of from it was. It's one of those feelings where I'm scared. I'm never going to get it back. Like even if the Falcons do you know they become great again like we didn't know in that moment maybe we did. But we didn't really want to cherish because we were too amped up on the success but those were the greatest times like that feeling even before that playing the seahawks. You could say like. That's one one. Am One be quick even the back of it sometimes in all it like I get sad. I'll just watch the highlights on Youtube and it's like when Julio is getting pass interference in stiff arms at dude and just takes off like he's running a damn you track me. It's like caused elect. Bring me back. Please I'm getting choked up just thinking about it was it was remarkable. It felt like finally the years of you know being upset over this team feeling crossfield like they're personally out to get you like doing dumb stuff. it's being rewarded in. You know. We obviously didn't know what was to come. But at that moment it was easily the best feeling in the world you know in this also ties back to earlier. What I was saying about being a falcons fan if you live in Atlanta. It's probably a little different because there are obviously more fans there but you know like in my family around my friends. I'm the only Falcons Fan. They know because you know it's a rare thing to falcons fan Especially outside of Lena. You're getting all these texts and Oman. Everybody's watching it's the NFL it's the NFC championship game. Like there was only two games. That we You know it was. It was a great feeling. You know getting congrats and stuff from people you feel like you were a part of the team you know exactly so. I wonder what your next questions Shirley. That's the end right. Oh no because part of being a falcons fan is suffering and a sub to ask you because many of us at the Falcon Hollick came close to retiring after this particular game How hard did the super bowl loss hit you personally and it? Will you look back on it? Who Do you blame? Do you blame anybody to blame. Sean Hannity Blame Freeman a what does that. What does that game quakes? You okay first off. How hard did hit me I cried like real tears like somebody passed away in. I'm kind of ashamed of it because it's like one of those things where it's it is just a game. But when you live being a falcons fan you know being a football fan in general Especially for a team. That's not had a lot of success like this is your you know. We're in the off season right now. And we're constantly talking about the falcons. Served in football. Played Falcons football played months in. It's all we can never talk about so you know in just the build up. I think the thing that hit me. The hardest was During halftime you know having family and stuff like Oh man good job. You're you're GonNa win and you know all this stuff in I. I live like my mom. For example I remember like it was yesterday saying. Oh you know you guys are doing great. You've got this in. I told her I'm like it's not over yet. You know trying to slow people like I was excited at halftime I was. I was more excited than I was at the beginning of the game. But I wasn't like parading around saying yeah. We got the Super Bowl. I can't wait to go to Disneyworld. You know because obviously I live in Florida so I would've been there but I wasn't doing that sort of stuff. I was like Willett slowdown. I've seen this team. They have this thing where they do. Love to let people get back into games. You know and sure enough. It did end up happening in. Just remember bawling my eyes out. 'cause. It literally hurt Yeah so what was the second part part because that was enough. Who Do I blame going? I mean I guess it has to start at the top Dan. Quinn 'cause I would have been running down the chain again. Like what the Hell Are you doing? Run the Freedom Ball I mean we all go down that the sequence of plays where Julio had that the greatest catch in that game like we'll be overshadowed by elements. Lucky ask fumbling of the ball. That happened to go into his arms. But that I mean I can see that play in my head just by thinking about it It remarkable that play summed up. Julio Jones's in Matt Ryan Trust in Julio Jones because he probably shouldn't have thrown that ball and Julia probably shouldn't came down with that ball but they did that have been a statue in Atlanta. And I think that's the worst part is it'll always be forgotten but it's it has to be in obviously we're biased. Perhaps be one of the catches. Plays whatever you WANNA call in. Nfl history are in Super Bowl. History Yeah so anyway. Do I blame. I mean I guess Dan I don't know I I don't really put a whole lot of blame. Look back at it because it's pointless at this point we were. We were one of the best teams scoring wise in. Nfl history So it's hard to be like. Hey you know call. She hit him with the hill. Like he's a big reason. Obviously why we were there to begin with so I don't I try. I know it's a boring answer by. Try Not to blame anybody just because you know in that moment like I don't remember it'd be different if I was stopped back and we'll say me and I was screaming at the TV. Why don't you guys run the ball? But I wasn't I was like you're a Julio they they could have run the ball obviously in hindsight. But I'm not GonNa Bash anybody. I hear last question to wrap this all up looking ahead your thoughts on the current regime Within the Atlanta Falcons that starts at the very top. You Know Arthur blank all the way down to the janitor in whether your hopes for the twenty twenty season. Yeah so I mean I love Arthur blank. it's just. I think we've been blessed to have a Greek owner. You know there's a lot of bad owners out there in. Yeah maybe sometimes. He's more recently been putting his thoughts out there more than he probably should but at the same time. I think it shows that he cares. Yeah he owns this team but he wants to win I mean I can't imagine you know. I heard obviously but imagine how he must have felt after that super bowl like we saw him in the boosts dancing because the Patriots fans huge. Show the clip of it. Like this dude was excited. You saw that energy After the NFC championship. So I mean I think the world of Arthur Blank Goff in track. I should have mentioned this earlier but One of my greatest moments and I I know that was a question but one of my greatest moments in two thousand eight when we got Matt Ryan First thing I did I bought a Matt Ryan Jersey in I went to the preseason game in Jacksonville which was officially his first like NFL game. It was preseason though After the game me and my dad or like stand around In the stands taking pictures and I'll have D. W. Put this into the article too. So you can see it if you want But Arthur blank and like his entourage start walking across the field and he sees like my Matt Ryan Jersey comes over In you know he asked. I kind of blinked. Because I was like oh I didn't mean to make a pun. I spaced out. I'll say because I mean I was shocked. I was you know I was a teenager. Like this was amazing. The owners coming up to talk to me You know he was just like Oh. How'd you like art young quarterback and I have no idea what I said? I probably said he's great. Whatever he ended up signing Matt Ryan Jersey in ever since that moment. I've just thought the World Arthur blank and then you see like the charities stuff he's doing more recently Yet so that start the top blank I think the world of him Dmitrov that would take me hours to just talk about so. I'm just going to say it is what it is Ali reload. Yeah Dan Quinn. I like him. I wish the best form. I don't think anything negative about him but I do want to win. In if he's not he's not I'm hopeful I know we have. The most difficult schedule came out recently. Most difficult schedule based on two thousand nineteen opponents by like like I said On the phone colleague Dot Com in our roundtable article. You WanNa be the best. She got beat. The best like we definitely will be facing the best. You know playing the packers saints twice. Lord knows what's going to happen with Tampa Bay but for some reason what they have on. Paper transitions to the field. You know that's going to be tough. That's I think we played them twice in the last three weeks. And that's your bread and butter games where you're trying to make the playoffs In I believe the chiefs are week. Sixteen like that's insanely man. We have a talented roster. So I think that's the biggest Thing TO BE OPTIMISTIC. Avowed his yeah. We're playing some tough people but we have some tough people to I love the draft. wasn't huge on. Terrell early but You know faith in some of these voices. I trust like Eric Robinson Kevin Night. Obviously every day they know they're talking about you re read their content on Dot Com. They'll give you some more optimism What actually happens you know will will let that play out on. Its own but Davidson Hennessy like I love that there you know the Hennessy pick was more looking towards the future. But we do have some guys. You Know Matt Ryan's getting older Julio's getting older Alex Mack. This is probably last season. I don't think anybody's GonNa think that's a crazy thing to say Our defense is better So I'm optimistic in. That's a scary thing. To be a falcons fan but would it be a fan if you didn't go into the season expecting a super bowl at the end. Because what's the point of being a fan exactly? Yeah and that is the roller coaster ride of any Atlanta Falcons fan over the past decade two decades three decades to pick so Evan we've gotten to know you much better here on this podcast. I'm not sure if that's a good thing a bad thing. But it's a great thing so one you remind our listeners where they can find you and what you've gone. Yeah so you can find me on twitter at Edinburgh in you know like I said earlier. I'll talk to you about anything I do like to do. A lot of fantasy football Which I you know Humble Brag but I'm pretty decent so if you ever need advice on that I do have you know fantasy articles one of them. I think comes out Friday Which is like a cre- training camp rankings list I do have currently out some more. A undrafted free agent content Like mikey Daniel Dying on that Hill. I think he's GonNa make the roster call my shot Zone read stuff like that. And then you know largely just stay tuned to the alcoholic Podcasts IN ARTICLES WAY YOU KNOW. There's a lot of falcons material out there in content but what makes us better than the rest is. We're falcons fans You know that's Dwi's role in this kind of format we're doing is we're not lying to you. We actually when when you guys are hurting or hurting when you guys are excited. We're excited And you're not getting any B. S. from us. We're not gonNA coming and gives you optimism when there's none to be there We're fans you know. That's the only reason I write for. The alcock is because I'm a fan. I love this team They make me WanNa Bang my head against the wall sometimes. But that's you know that's being fan but largely you know some of us. I know I do. I read the comments. You know I appreciate you guys taking the time to read articles Even if you disagree with what? We're saying just commenting and sharing your thoughts You know do the do the fan posts on a foul colic dot COM. Get messages from people interested in reading? I mean not reading writing. If you're interested in writing do the Fan Post it's Great. It's not only. Is it a great exercise for you to craft your writing Skills It also is something you can later on when you're ready to take that leap whether it's with the foul. Colic DOT COM or one. Or the other numerous falcons websites. You can say hey. This is what I've written in the past you know and hopefully it's all content that makes you look like a great writer and boom there. You go you're writer now a just thanks for you know. Renar stop listening all that stuff absolutely very guys as always you can find me on twitter at alcoholic. Dwi and subscribe to our podcast at pro bowl where you can stay tuned to the podcast as the drop in any updates super burke my partner in crime during the regular season. Pushkin David Walker. Thank you guys to talk with you.

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REShow: Hour 2 (12-17-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

42:58 min | 1 year ago

REShow: Hour 2 (12-17-19)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on apple podcast and podcast one. Everybody's got A to do list. Drop golf the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list and the good thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up anything. All you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance extra money in your pocket. Of course this may be the most rewarding warning to do you do today. Our number two of the rich Eisen show is on the air and we had a great chat with Aaron Jones of the packers. There's an hour number one and it's amazing. Four teams are eleven and three four of them are eleven three in in the NFC. And they've all I think they've all gone one in one in the last two weeks right. Seattle was last week in Carolina but lost to the rams the forty niners beat the saints and then came home and lost the Falcons. They were nineteen game. Chris was your wife watching her. She's even tapped out on she is. She is the mother of your trophies. Tapped out I don't know how I was watching it. I'm like wait. A minute. The Falcons of a chance to win and the end of that game was just tw- because again these wins and losses atop the NFC are huge because it reconfigures the entire picture for about four teams. And then you can include whoever wins the NFC East because whoever doesn't win the off top seed drops down to being the angriest visiting team maybe in the history of the NFC playoffs or maybe the the entire place. I turn zero. What's the most wins? A wildcard team has ever had. has there ever been thirteen win. While cartoon no way there won't be one this year because the loser of seahawks forty niners. We'll have only twelve wins. Mean had the niners actually one at home. The thirteen wins the ninety nine cent. They made the Super Bowl as we all know finishing up one yard shy against Friday three hour along guest and Co host of my wife. Suzy Shuster Marshall. faulk will be here Friday. I'm just GONNA give this to already gave sues the heads up. She already knew. Jimmy that's up marshal's coming in here and I think he might WanNa talk about the video from Cincinnati about at the bengals. I think he might want to talk about that. A little bit right off their heads look like a show is going to be lit. All that said so the saints lost to San Francisco but just one at the packers though of one to Andrew. Green Bay just won that game against Chicago bears at her. They got smoked by San Francisco. Bay they the Green Bay packers since getting smoked by San Francisco. This go beaten the giants Redskins and bears and the bears are one of the Seniors GonNa Place Aside and we'll talk about them in about two three weeks. What about the coach about the quarterback? What are they gonNA do? I've already told you they're going to run it back another team. I guess we can play society even though they're not done the rams I did not see that one coming. I thought the ranch we're going to go into Dallas and put the bank thing arm and the way the Dallas reversed it and give it up man give it up to Jason Garrett. This is why you don't ask that coach. You know his team quit on you. After they lost in Chicago of any team that I I couldn't be more disappointed. I thought that the the colts quit last night just looked like that. They didn't have it in them that that game was over though and the second no so they kinda packed it in. Yeah and they hit the cowboys to me. You know as Troy Aikman said on. DP Show Oh yesterday when they're playing. Well it could beat anybody. Question is how they're going to be playing so well they missed vander Russia ton. They really do. They can get him healthy for the playoffs. That would be huge certainly again if a twelve win seahawk four hundred team comes into their house really pissed off angry angry so And you know the Rams at some point we'll figure you're out what they're gonNA do with all those contracts and who stays who goes obviously jail. Ramsey's gonNA stay but You know and and just watch the Ramsey turnaround and just beat the forty niners on Saturday night on NFL network. That's entirely possible because there are supremely talented team with a great head coach. I guess it was just one of those days in Dallas. I mean they just didn't have it in golf. Got Hurt you could see was totally different. After he got hurt. Now the team that you could place aside right now or the Cleveland browns. What what in the hell are they gonNA do? How about the word? That Jarvis Landry saying come get me to some of the cardinals. I mean. It's just the whole Brown Brown steam asking God happening in there. Is it the coaches it. The quarterback I don't know but this is a overall topic. Rich are here so I won't. I won't be careful. Tread lightly their raiders. Ha I mean this was a team I said it was going to go ten wins. They could I said that when they were six in four them on since my my bad romance Raider Fans Derek Carr getting booed out of the black hole that they were mad. You okay with that. I know we were talking about booing. Goes what was the last week or you know what I think. Raider fans in Oakland should be given a large amount of leeway. A large amount of leeway said another over-reaction Tuesday conference down. I'll just leave it. I'll leave it there and hear what you have to do is it. Derek Carr related. It is dare Cairo. That was horrible. That was garbage. Talk Reaction Tuesday nice weather brought to you by capital which is reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts of no fees or minimum and one of the nation's best savings rates capital capital one. What's in your wallet by the way try to lower? I don't like to produce my wife's shows when she sits in this chair with Marshall Whatever certainly since she's already book Shack and Charles Barkley for fun and Marshall is going to be here again. He wants a piece of this spy two point. Oh that's common right. You gotTa Oughta do you weather report Friday. I'm not here. Oh so then okay. So then we'll do thirsty. Thursday Thursday weather's coming now it's common. I think I heard Kansas City. This weekend. Overreaction Monday how about it Chris Okay so we'll start last night. You breeze record setting performance drew brees. He's career better than Peyton. Manning's career I can we just you know. That's an overreaction. I just this whole business the world where one has to be better than the other and both can't be equally is great and say that okay. There's a there's a thumb on a scale l. now and breezes better than Payton Payton's really better than brees that breezes garbage when it comes down to it and Payton's garbage when it comes down to it can both be. I Westbound Hall of fame. Great can we do that please. Why do we have to pit one against the other just because one just broke a record? Why do we have to do that? Talk aradio overreaction. Okay what you just asked for my reaction to again what you just asked is. I think what I just do a little over the top. I just like what am I supposed to absolutely drew. brees is career is much better than Peyton Manning's because of and then I have to come up with three do things to make that point and then maybe we split screen this thing and then you start arguing me. I start arguing with you. And then we can actually posted later. Make good clicks. You WanNa take a side. Which side do I want neither side? I WanNa know what you have next on your on your list breezed. It beat him heads up in a super bowl. Kay Great Go. Then it's all over. And why did I even come to work today. It's Tuesday rich the Patriots are not GonNa Win The AFC east. Oh Man I did ask you this. There's a few weeks ago to and you said I was crazy now. It's a little more juicy. Oh man the bills are really the bills off go to Foxborough and beat doing. They are equipped to do it man. The Patriots are having trouble scoring points having trouble getting a good running game going there trouble everything I you know and this this defense is frigging great. Yeah they are. They are nasty. They come down hill. They hit you in the mouth. Also Josh Allen. It's not an overreaction. I can't say that but by the way how about Bills Fans Patriots not win the AFC east. Why can't you say the bills will win the Mansi? Can we have a glass half full. How many can you water ski behind? The Patriots will not east. It's not like there's three teams Jason and there's one team and they're coming comedy town all of them. Let's go let's go I. That's entirely possible. It's not an overreaction. Let's go to Cleveland here. The browns just just blow it all up. Fire the coach trade. The players start over your not blow it all up. Keep the quarterback and get rid of everybody to pay Baker Baker Mayfield but yeah I mean look what the steelers have done. Look what the steelers have done. They they they say goodbye to let them walk. They get Antonio Brown L. and they didn't expect Big Ben to blow his arm out in week two right and they didn't expect Mason Rudolph to look so unready but they got dot com. Ges they make could couple of changes on defense by trading up to to get Devon Bush in the top ten for the they've been raiders never traded up in the top ten of a draft ever and the last time they traded a first round pick period was nineteen. Sixty six for Mak- Fitzpatrick. You put it all together and look what the steelers look like their potential playoff team even with you know l.. Big Band looking one pencil. Shy of of going full Matt Patricia. So Yeah Brown's should go ahead and boom or find out what the hell is going on in that locker room because there's something going on that they're trying to keep a lid on. Yeah they got Nick Chubb that quarterback in that running backs not a bad combo. No that's working the defense myles Garrett will be back here don't have to blow it completely off but yeah I would I tinker under the hood you if I were them yeah. That's not an overreaction. Let's talk about James Davis Wisdom. Dan and I were talking about this yesterday. What a season? This guy's having four in a row yes five of the last six right first. NFL history four hundred fifty eighty plus games. He's going to be the quarterback of the Tampa Bay Bucks. I think so That's one of the first questions I asked Bruce Arians when I see him on Friday at the team meeting with a AH the broadcast team by the way of me. Nate Burleson Joe Thomas. That's fun Melissa. Stark on the sideline. All right Yeah I think so mad and by the way this is where everyone's wondering what are what are you GonNa do James. You know your your team is Is Out of the playoffs. Essentially five and seven right and you know what are we gonNA do. Do you have to play for your contract. And he's stepping up. Didn't even have Mike Evans last week. Now he might not have Chris Godwin. He beat the Texans. They should just put a contract in front of them right there. It's got a big arm Byron left which is a perfect coordinator for him. airings is a perfect coach for him. I'll see one or two less mistakes. pregame the MVP is he. How about this comparison is Janus the twenty first century? Jeff Jordan do you're gon with that He's better I. I Would Jeff George. If he's listening would be very upset. I would agree. Yeah he he's better and I will raise my hand. I always raise. He's my hand here and I say Mea Culpa I was wrong. I called this fight over for Mario last year. How wrong was I? Marriott is going to be a backup next year. Jameson and I'll see him going higher register he's going to have five thousand yards. That's what that's what. The idea was left. which in areas with him? Just just. Just throw four touchdowns. You don't have to throw three you. Don't Geoff Diehl Raiders. Derek Carr not going to be the starting quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders. Do you put this on him as a dare cars fall. His fault bought two weeks ago. Oakland raiders the home against the Tennessee. Titans throws the ball out of the end zone when he's got the when when desperate on fourth down or be thrown what away this past week. Rich Gannon's in the booth there. Now down the Jacksonville. Jaguars Gardner Minhsiu have by the way. Great great change of Music Gardner Menchu has led the Jacksonville Jaguars into the end zone. They have half a minute to go the tryon and and the Coliseum in the black hole in the most mind-blowing fashion instead of blowing the most mind-blowing fashion and Gannon's in the booth with Dannon as you know is Gruden's favorite quarterback of all time. He didn't win a super bowl with them. All due respect to Brad Johnson and Gannon's in the booth calling again for. CBS and car is rolling out rolling out. Rolling out and Gannon's call is put it up. Throw it up throwing up like drew lock got that. Yeah Pass interference. That beat the chargers just two weeks before you never know you can get a pass interference just fifty and he thought he threw it away. Ten seconds away threw it away. And it's just like these times where you have to go for it just aw damnit torpedoes yeah baby again. It's an I think Gruden is you know rarely like quarterback he's always kicking tires on. That's why nate Peterman still has a career. I'll say that's not an overreaction. Nobody wants and risked the wrath of all the cars on twitter tweet. Let me about that really. Nobody wants to play the Dallas cowboys in the playoffs. Overreaction please what do you want the saints instead. mm-hmm stop it. Come on come on boat race. The rams get air your choices are the following. The forty niners the seahawks the packers saints the cowboys your choice. Who Do you WANNA play in the first round the playoffs else? Okay story overreaction. Won One game in a month. They finally did give it to Zeke. He finally had the game that they have to get the COBWEBS beach for took him fifteen weeks to figure that one out. Okay and Cooper didn't didn't do squat again. He's injured you know or or or Bella check showed everybody. Let Zeke do his thing. Take Amari Cooper out. It didn't help to take on Austin got busted one and wit one-handed one like his best player of the year again and was so open. I'll take my chances going into the Jones Mahal with the pressure on. And you got a one touchdown lead in the playoffs in the Jones Mahal and everybody. Oh Yeah now you get that taste in the back of your throat coming up your Safa. Your Cowboy Fan overreaction. You got one more one more. Ui Manning should retire instead of becoming a backup next year. Go out on a win win. I I'm assuming he's just a we went. We went GM. We talked about Jim. We we went through last week. where the options of players of of teams needing a quarterback and going a free agent route and quarterback? We're back and not going for a young quarterback in the draft or not trying to wait for if you will bridge quarterback for Trevor Lawrence. I think the quarterback back market this year is going to be similar to a running back market in previous years and I don't think Eli is going to have a choice except for why I would want to be a backup quarterback and move his moves family somewhere as a nice warm fuzzy was nice warm pages or is sworn off. Go out that way against fits in the dolphins and I thought Fitch was trying to get the dolphins out of the top ten in the draft last four down. Not the Miami Matt. That's your reaction Monday when we come back your phone calls at eight four four two four rich we will. We will hit that also all the rams home schedule the opponents eight of them have been set. Wait till you hear who's common just up the road. Yeah in the building and I will ask the two of you guys. I'm going every game going going. You're selling tickets for. That's next on this edition of the rich Eisen show this summer. 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Yeah I did pick against him this week and the reason why is I thought the steelers we're GonNa pull that thing out and they almost did but when we went dot com. Yeah I know he just he just he just was making throws that he shouldn't make and obviously you know you got a big time defense. A Love Lorenzo Alexander obviously and and You know the the back end of the defense is terrific and I will say this Sir Josh Allens at ten win quarterback and darnold isn't and neither neither is Baker Mayfield. I'll be true ten o'clock one more time before before. Take my the more time before Saturday. I'm GonNa ask you when this time. So hopefully central come and look I mean you got the better running game you got The goat at one of the goats in in Franklin I love what single Terry looks like And you've got the best weapon on the field Other than Ataman is. I'll give him a the obvious benefit of the doubt because of the longevity but John Brown's been spectacular. He's been so James White and we'll be good to go. I just don't know if I'M GONNA pick your bills against the Patriots. It's just such a tough thing to do matthew. I'm sorry come to the dark side. We've been talking for years you'll come over one day. It'll be okay now. I would love nothing more man because I love fresh faces. I love new stories and I will tell you this though matthew in advance. I'm GonNa take your bills against the jets week. Seventeen eighteen okay. I appreciate talking next week. My bills meet the Patriots. Chat soon passed to you and your family to Jimmy in Syracuse New York aright. Brockman to your Your your spot where you once again. You had a higher education. What's going on Jimmy? What's going on rich? I just wanted to know real quick. What are the colts do you? Next here they're GONNA be in the middle of the drop. They don't have to take that second year. Optional Jacoby percent for a quarterback and other vets injuries. Also a good question The the short answer is i. I don't know I think what Burger said. Last night is is smart. They needed three technique. Pass rusher if you will not to get too technical what that means is just a guy right in the middle that line fine defensively they can put the pressure upfront. They got a lot of they got a lot of firepower. Otherwise defensively and then they do have to sit here and say is bre set a I long term. They do have a ton of draft picks in the also got a great Grocery Shopper Chris. Ballard They tried to fashion together. A season. on the eve of which they lost their franchise face and they had a pretty damn good first half of the season. Ty getting hurt Ibran going out and not being the same as last year. That said they do have a great offensive line in that Kid Marlon Max's Star so there are some positives that's Jimmy and circus. Did he hang up tape dropped. You dropped already four two four rich number two down here on the show I did promise this. Let's get to this playoff playoff clinching scenarios of these. Hey here we go in terms of this four. AFC teams already in Ravens and chiefs can Print playoff tickets because they have won their divisions. There's a chance that the Ravens won't have to Handle those tickets for the first week of the playoffs because they can clinch a first round. Bye with a win this this very weekend at Cleveland all baby do they wanna lay on them. I mean seriously John Harbaugh could put up a score that starts with a six and has another digit after it. I think he'd signed for that right now. And we'll discuss this tomorrow because one of the best predictions I've I've ever made in four downs. I made in the first four downs this year. About Lamar Jackson season and I think he wants to have a six touchdown game from Lamar Jackson. 'cause this Brown's team beat the Ravens at home. The only home loss suffered all year. Put a forty burger on them and I think they want to absolutely put the nail in the coffin. And we'll see how the browns show up. We'll see how the Brown show that we can do. They have have the U.. Haul already hooked up. We'll find out in the first quarter. Because if Lamar comes out and puts a couple of scoring drives them to start. We'll see what happens. Will they wrap it up at home against the city that took their team from will they do that. Will the receivers. There's who supposedly told other players of other organizations come get me. Will they show up. What will happen because if the Ravens win that they clinched a first round bye homefield advantage throughout with a win to? That's all we need a home. Field advantage managed the entire. AFC Playoffs the whole shooting match does through Baltimore if they win in in Cleveland and I think John Harbaugh is GonNa Absolutely. What's your deal Bro? A spare harbaugh families special being cooked up. Then the question is would lamar even play a single lick against Pittsburgh at home new wrap-up season probably not I don't know would rg three. Start that game. I don't think so New England clinches the AFC east if they beat beat the bills. They could get a first round by if Kansas City loses. Wha- New England beats the bills on Saturday and Kansas City has got that Sunday night or at Chicago. Kansas City with that win a couple of weeks ago. Has that tiebreak our New England which is why New England to clinch a first round. Bye needs it's another loss from Kansas City. In that regard Houston the first game of the week is again one. PM Eastern I'll be calling it on NFL network from Tampa. I'm fired up about that. Houston wins that one in Tampa they wrap up the AFC. SOUTH OF PITTSBURGH LOSS WOULD CLINCH HOUSTON. A playoff spot period. Tennessee loss would also clinch the division for Houston Houston. What a big win? That was for them in Tennessee. And it's amazing. Looked like they were going to go up early. But the Shawn Watson through a pig inside the five yard line then Tennessee. tennison looked like they would go up first with a beautiful pass from tannehill that got botched. I forget the receiver who couldn't catch it because he got hit at the same time that that almost turned into a pick six Houston later on threw another interception inside ten in the end zone. I know right but they with Carlos Hyde thousand yard rushing season. Hey Houston on. The last day of August traded away cloudy traded four tonsil traded for Carlos Carlos side that was their last day of the of the month of August and bill. Brandt got killed for it and the biggest Jecklin high team that has a shot at at the playoffs. I think Dallas would probably win that one but in terms of the whole season Atlanta Atlanta's beaten saints in New Orleans and and beaten the niners in San Francisco. Those are two teams. That might win the whole damn shooting how ever happen but look at the last three weeks for Houston beat. The Patriots creates destroy. The Patriots drew smoked by the broncos. And then go into Tennessee and would well. I guess we'll see against Tampa who starts at quarterback maybe the most jekyll and Hyde quarterback back. He's been more WHO's been more. I guess hide right. It's been a recently terrific James have been with the pressure onto men in the NFC NFC a green bay win in Minnesota to wrap up the week wraps up the NFC. North Minnesota wins. They clinched a playoff berth. But if the rams lose I and sat on Saturday Day in San Francisco Minnesota clinches. They're in and obviously Dallas and Philadelphia will set the stage for that later on this week. Dallas it's Wednesday clinched East and plan to print a playoff ticket and then is What would you say four wins shy of Jason Garrett Getting New Contract Wild Card Division Championship Super Bowl? Just go on a four game win streak. First Time we've heard that well usually been the other one for the last three weeks he's going to be back. Accurate or Jason Garrett will be back next year what if they make the AFC championship game the well. That would be as because they switched conferences. Ah If they do that. I don't know maybe it depends on how they lose. I don't know I think Dallas fans are so over. Jerry can't quit. We've seen it jared if Lincoln Riley says I'm coming I think he quits them settled down just a little bit. You and speaking of Jerry have here in my hand. The Rams Twenty twenty home schedule Agile now the schedules for each team. We know what the schedules are for each team. Not when it is but who goes wear wear mostly for the next two years because every year in the NFL a team obviously plays the other three teams in their own division twice once at home. So that's three home games. You got five other home games at the five other home games are filled out by getting two teams from each of the other divisions you play you play one division conference outside of your own division all for for those teams two of them. Come to your house. That leaves three other home games. You play another division entirely from other conference two of those teams. Come to your house. That's too leaving one last home game and what that one last home game is from one of the two other divisions in your conference that you're not playing in totality but you play eight the team that finishes in the same spot as you so fourth placed team plays a fourth place team and a fourth placing of the two other divisions visions. That you don't play until Talapity one of the teams that finishes in the same spot comes to your house. The Rams no which team that is now because they have clinched third place in the NFC west and they knew that coming into the season even knew that in twenty twenty they will host the NFC north team finishes in the same spot them. That team is now officially the Chicago bears. So here is your Los Angeles. Rams home schedule is tweeted out by direct. TV Red Zone host Andrew. Silvano the bears. The Patriarch Riyal maybe cowboys okay. The jets and giants are both coming out here foul. Those transplanted New Yorkers and then the Niner seahawks cardinals of the NFC west. That is the new stadium's first eight games for the team that plays in it. That paid eight for the stadium so though we don't know the order that we won't know the order until exactly right so I turned to the to ticket holders for the rams. Because you know they'll be some games that'll be great that you definitely want to see that you don't have any personal hunt in like. Obviously you're not coughing up the Patriots tickets. Chris I mean I think it depends who the quarterback is next. You're going to cough up your tickets if Jarrett stidham comes to town Yeah I don't care about seeing jets at him Patriot Fan. Your pets are coming here. Chris are you really going to. Would you put the Patriots tickets on the secondary ticket market because MBA a ton of money. You know what this is rich. No what does that. It's the money machine gene counting the money. What's happened to this guy he's got? No Don who's not every game are all of one hundred percent so Chris hundred percent. I'm going to Chris. I got to imagine that God imagine that I'm scheduled to attend every game next year. You have to but you got a newborn. That's what I made. I'm going to have a seven month old at that point you're not GonNa turn to Sarah and say You you take care of Jessie Tuggle Brockman right okay while I go and you have a great time right. I can't read okay right when you know you know Oh. There are thousands of bears fans in this town. Oh that would great right for those tickets. You know a a lot of money man bears Albouy. I WanNa yes or no answer out. I want to go down this list and I WANNA sincere. Yes no no answer. Any question is do you sell your tickets for these games. Yes bears at one hundred percent patriots. Probably on probably not cowboys. Yes yeah you don't WanNa see Cowboys Rams in person. I want four times. The price of my ticket jets. Now you can have this closer. Got Mine for nothing okay. Did I say the inner part outlawed parties inside voice outside with giants Saquon. Now Muko giant's game forty niners. I was GONNA say Jimmy G. Sea Hawks Yup cardinals I am interested in China. Depends when that is what time you're going all eight one hundred percent. I'm going to probably be at half. Let's let's let's hit this one because you know again the rams unfortunately it's going to take a monster turn of events for them to win it all all and get the first Sunday night home game of two thousand and twenty on to raise a banner correct. 'cause again. I believe this year was was a pilot testing pilot to take the first game of the year out of the hands of the Super Bowl Stadium and put that on the biggest audience on a Sunday night and Thursday tonight. Just be a game that everybody's interested in and they don't want to see us but did the NFL one hundred season as the reason. Hey you know we're we're going to change the tradition a little bit but it was a a test pilot to put bears packers on the I kinda work at work worked so to me. I don't know maybe. They do open when the season in suffice. Stadium as it's called maybe they do have the first game of the season the rams hosting somebody or they might have a rematch rematch of the conference championship game that does not involve the eventual super bowl winner. If that happens I don't know but the first rams home game in this stadium is going to be nationally televised and I imagine it's got to be the first week because they're not letting the chargers the first game in this stadium that they paid for right right I. I think it's the cowboys no question. They're also because Jerry Jones helped bill is very getting the teen has los else Angeles. The Rams and Jerry Jones is something called legends hospitality that he and the Yankee started together years ago to just help stadiums with concessions but they have now moved into naming rights and selling his legends. Hospitality is selling. PSL's in that stadium and helped get so fi onboard. There's no doubt in my mind week one right cowboys rams week one. I don't have the patience Jack with you today. Let's do. That's the way it's going to be the first Thursday motto right now all right. I'll be at that. I've I've raiders season tickets and I think they're gonNA open Monday night and I want to go to both those first game as all I mean. I'm probably missing that Monday. If that happens is found in that game I football game in Vegas come on by the way I got that I got that scheduled to eight four four two zero four rich number. Dowell take your calls when we come back. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting this. podcast certainly couldn't do this show without either of you and I wanted to remind you that you can support my sponsors by going to my show. Oh page at podcast. One Dot com clicking on the support. This podcast button and Mary. You'll see all of my wonderful sponsors. That helped make this show possible. So thank you for downloading downloading subscribing. And of course supporting now back to the show stuck in a corner dry out of that problem. Of course he goes along with. Thank you go into the fourth quarter now provisional again towards the second tour and there it is the Mavericks Tsk Pat ended the eighteen game winning streak of the Milwaukee Bucks notion those threes rh may made curry shots. Look like layups. That's how far they were. I mean that it was like Damian Lillard beating the Oklahoma City Thunder type distance. I just saw actually a piece on. I forget where it was but guys are shooting from further and further out now house. It's just kinda crazy. We're not going to make him so the bucks lose their eighteen game win streak. Despite Yana scoring forty eight and fourteen rebounds most points ever scored loss ending player team players team single season winning streak of fifteen or more games last time. It happens when Steve. Nash had forty two. Do in a loss against the wizards. Snap a fifteen game win streak for the Sanjiang. Yes kids. The sons used to win fifteen in a row. Steve Nash backed back. MVP's and the Knicks. Usually I use anything good about posing to go down and Dolan Wormhole but the six and twenty one. Knicks have company in that department. The cavs The hawks are six and twenty. That's not supposed to happen. That was not supposed to six twenty one hawks. That was not supposed APP. Everything stand right now. Our poll question brought to you by capital on which reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts with no fees or minimum is one of the nation's best savings rates capital on. What's in your Wallet Chris? What do you have over there? Yeah best team in in the NFC. All four of these guys have eleven wins. It's going to be crazy. NFC Playoffs Saints Lead. The way fifty one percent the forty niners who just beat them the other today a couple of weeks ago. Twenty two percent seahawks eighteen percent packers. Everyone sleeping on the packers. Ten per seven sleeps on the packers. Kazan Raja's is in the lead anymore and Matt Leflore doesn't get talked about coach of the year. Because he's got an elite quarterbacks a square. That's an air show seventeen. That's right in an offense. We're they're using a weapon like Aaron Jones. Expertly and Rogers is the one orchestrating and having. Yeah no problem seriously. The most drama Aaron Rodgers has involved has been involved in this year is trying to tamper temper. His state his his agents hatred of stay strong does commercials. If I'm the only one Uh Larry Allen Dallas how you been Albert. I'm doing well Richard First and foremost my condolences to you and your family. Thanks I appreciate thank you. So much The state farm commercials are getting old but So you know Oh you pick up the phone you tell them what you talk about. Then you hear you guys show great to talk about but but Brockman going to be with oil can Brockman and the baby bjorn at the Patriots game with a seven month old. Seems like I think so. Yeah we She put headphones on registry. So come through. Is that wrong. Ah That's planning listen you know. That's that's the. That's the younger generation. That's true that is we get sitters. Editors we talk about. They'll TUFO tickets here tickets. They're planning on getting Vegas. The water skis behind yachts. He's got season tickets to multiple. NFL teams. He's got the K.. On the Beach Brady comes to the chargers. I'll be getting the charges to actually. I might be with you. We're we're going to split the connection just so you know. The Patriots are on the chargers. Home schedule Joel. The Patriots and jets have two visits to the new stadium. Baby that's a fact. Let's say Broccoli. You Gimme discounts giant tickets or yours. Get Yours if you want them now. I appreciate your call. 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The Falcoholic Live, Ep156: Falcons Week 1 preview with Chuck Smith

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The Falcoholic Live, Ep156: Falcons Week 1 preview with Chuck Smith

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Where we take falcons questions for about thirty minutes to an hour. That's a lot of fun. You could find that page at patriot. Dot com slash. Falco hollick live. Thank you all for listening and we hope you enjoy today's episode fellow alcohol. Ix what is up. Welcome to episode one fifty six of the alcoholic live. I'm your host. Kevin night f alcohol kevin on twitter joined by some great co host and a very special guest this evening. That special guest is chuck smith former all pro pass. Rusher of the falcons and self proclaimed dr rush pass. Russ pass rush specialist coach. That's that's a mouthful but chuck how you doing. I'm i'm doing fabulous man so don't get the nickname to like you guys alcoholic. Chuck come on man. Yeah we could go up yeah guys. I'm alcohol chopped all right. I'll make sure to edit the nameplate for next time bye. Yeah how you doing tonight check really good. It's been a you know a good day. A training in the lab. You know there are a lot of guys right now as many guys that we know that are in getting ready for game one also guys that got cut so right now. I got a gang in about twenty-five nfl free agents that are d. Linemen linebackers than preparing to get the call. So you know he still got to be tuned up so there are a lot of guys that got cut in their training right now. So it's a busy time. Still young. I imagine so. This is definitely a probably. I don't know if guys come to you during the season as much. But i know like in the off season even up until now the end of training camp. You got a lot of guys. You're working with so yeah. I mean it's busy year round as got twenty five guys in the gym. It's rare i'd have twenty five guys in the summer. So there you gotta how many guys got cut you know in the nfl data just d. lineman so you got those guys you got guys from the cfl you got guys that are getting ready for the xfl you know you got. I mean listen you gotta arena guys at our training. So football's got different levels to pass training but we only always get a chance to talk about the nfl. So you don't really gonna stop. Man is consulting training its development. Is editing videos it's a stacking aboard is also doing scouting a college in high school players consulting college coaches. You know. it's the their levels to the bigger business than most people truly would understand because no one ever truly ask those of questions but yeah i just gave you. I appreciate the insight. Yeah for sure. Definitely get into more of that stuff. Wanna welcome everybody else sitting here first of all. We have the man responsible for our wonderful guest this evening. He is director of guest personnel. Evan burchfield at. Evan burchfield on twitter. Evan how are you doing tonight. I'm doing great thankful for chuck smith obviously coming on our show Last episode one of our viewers. Jason gains Law people were requesting to try and get some former players. Come on in chuck. Smith's name came up. Law and jason Was the one that really got that going. So i was like well. Let's see jeff smith. Oh come on in each here so get those questions read. Yup asking you shall receive exactly so we also got with us. The man himself at the alchoholic. Dave dave how are you doing this evening. Doing great really excited. As i was saying right before we started here to actually be talking about a football game and it feels like it's been a couple years since we saw on so i'm again. Yeah it is. It's been a while and it's it's nice to have actual football in the schedule tomorrow night. Even if it's not the falcons and then of course the falcons so at four two on sunday next up odd non eac- each non is at say which way on twitter odd on. How are you this evening. I'm doing very well. You know we've eaten are vegetables. That was the preseason and now it's time for for the main course. Yes definitely dake yes. Exactly i'm excited as well brother and we also have finally a surprise entrant once again. We have eric robinson taking a break from his busy. Espn schedule. He is at underscore. Eric underscore robinson eric our eric. My brother and we have to do that yet. Yeah i do. I'm contractually obligated. Dave maybe do it so he lists glad to have a chuckle Tonight i really wanna wanna pick his brain a little bit as far as noel. Just being the pass rushing teacher that he is the pass russian guru that he is. This is definitely been something. That's been a thorn. In the side for the falcons all the past year. So yeah glad to have you too good to be here thank you. Yes all right well. Let's get right into it. With the falcons going against the eagles in week. One chuck i know you said you have a plan. An idea for how the falcons might be able to take down. The eagles this year obviously phillies offense last year. Not what we had been used to seeing from them carson. Wentz was a little bit hurt a little bit old and then we saw jalen hurts towards the year. Take control of that offense. Meanwhile the defense still a great pass rush overall not as dominant as they had been in the past. So what is it. What are your thoughts on. How the falcons can sort of take advantage of those matchups in this game. Why falcons first and foremost they gotta try to warn. Established the run. Let me tell you. Everybody keeps saying to eagles. Got fletcher cox brandon graham. They got josh sweat. They got derek barnett. They got genera neighboring linebacker at eight and got old bear ryan kerrigan. That might be coming up behind a washington redskin. But what you gotta do the heart rate. You gotta go right at fletcher cox. Run the ball with mike davis. Lessen the falcons gonna throw the ball for three hundred fifty. Four hundred yards right the eagles. They're solid you got slade. Cornerback they're solid but my thing is this on the second level as far as the linebackers. When you get through fletcher those guys. Listen those linebackers. Last year as a group they were the second worst tackling group in the nfl. Gotta run the ball davis and then you set up the opportunities to see what kyle pits can do second level. You know 'cause let the eagles have had handsome injuries. That safety during During training camp. So i think the falcons is much as people don't think it can happen with this young offensive of line with some of the guys that have been added and i think that is the only way they got a hammer and then try to throw the ball to get ready. The game tries to engage in. And i'm gonna tell you another one sleep rehearsed you gotta get you have to get something out of their run the ball plaques and passed that is the recipe for the falcons. But if they're gonna if they ended up throwing the ball forty times guys. That's not the kind of day we want. We want to see what we want us become. The titans was slow. Play like coach. Smith did in tennessee. Hit him in the mouth. Let's let them big hippos man get up and do some do some Some routes hogging and stuff and after the eagles defensive line. Yeah yeah. I like all of that and i think honestly like everyone's worried about the offensive line and i understand why the only guys we've actually really seen play much would be jake matthews. Obviously we're pretty settled there chris. Lindstrom's settled there kale. Mcgarry i think has been improving but In terms of the other guys we saw matt. Hennessy get baptized by fire against via. And that's not exactly a fair assessment of his abilities. And then no jalen mayfield make his. Nfl debut and week wine at left guard. Which i'm excited to see. That's a lot to put on the plate for rookie. Who's changing positions. But we haven't seen that line at all in the preseason. I mean they they played maybe a snap. I mean it was barely anything so anything could happen. They could be better than expectations. Is there a reason you think they might be better than folks. folks so to sort of think Especially running the ball. Why because that's where they're going to one of their bread and butter an office of line when you look at young is the best thing for them is to get down and run block. That's one of those things. That's fundamental all about technique in of has to do it leverage and being a dog the worst case scenario yes. Of course you get baptized by debate. But i can tell you. There's now i'd rather them try to play a little more conservative. Run the ball and get after. Take my chances on a new developing of philadelphia eagles. Offense and say you know what we're gonna you know. This isn't quite you know hurts in exactly Aaron rodgers so. Let's play it slow. Run the ball but we got a lot better chance to run the ball. Then you got putting those guys back there in pass protection because let me give you a quick story. Real quick is membranous. I remember. I was on the bitch. It was my first year in the nfl while we feel started his rookie year. I think it was the third game. We played the pittsburgh steelers on monday night football. We're run-and-shoot team that in a good recipe. When you got greg lloyd and kevin green on the other side lavar Think chad brown. So the point was we went out there and threw the ball. Bob gave up three sacks jokes about on top and he got back scoop but ends up. You know making a pro bowl the falcons and appointed being always learn from him and some of those guys back in the day they wanna get down. They want to establish a physical presence. So the guys that were talking about on the falcons offensive line lynch on mcgarry. Any of those guys hennessy matthews. We have a better opportunity. Better shot a run blocking and being physical than those guys happen to kick bat. You tell you somebody you know after this game the season when you see josh sweats from philadelphia eagles who was basically john abraham two point. Oh i'm telling you kid is incredible derek barnett. Right now is incredible. So when you see these guys the last thing you want is to have jake matthews ores particularly a mcgarry trying to drop back. Kickback six yards. So i'd rather start out tried. Establish the ron. Let's get slow the game down. Let's let's say. Hey our defenses. Good enough to stop hurts. You've got smith you know got a phenomenal offers. A old school Line so i think you gotta you gotta pick your poison. I rather than be beaten up. Mike davidson matt ryan. Yeah absolutely and you raise an excellent point there because the eagles last year we only have last year stats to go off of. So that's quote here. It's going to be different this year. Obviously but you know the eagles second and pressure rate on defense in terms of getting pressure on the quarterback that was always their biggest strength and it did translate into a pretty good pass defense in terms of yards per game. You their fifteenth in passing yards per game against the run however they were just the twenty third in stopping the run. And you could. You could tell because. They invested a lot in the past rush. That run defense wasn't quite as good. So i think he might be onto something there to attack that weakness on defense and trying to keep. The eagles pass rushers from being able to pin their ears. Back up the falcons get into third long and stuff like that so definitely agree with you there. Let's let's switch over to the defensive side with the falcons obviously a totally new. Look here with dean. Maybe not right a giant difference from remorse rantings at the very end of his tenure here but definitely going to be more exotic blitz packages probably more aggressive in terms of sending pressure. What are you really looking for from this. I sort of time. We're gonna get to see the first string defense. What are you hoping to see from dean pees in this game. Well i'm looking to see how substitution pattern works. Because it's a team that's gonna be put together by nuts and bolts man. We have to look at the facts that we have in our front. We have guys at are what i call spare tires man guys that you put a spare tire on in. We gotta have him until we can get a new tire in. That can't do it overnight. So when you look at like some of the things that happened. This year to falcons were held handicap their handicapped by some of the challenges there. So what that also does tagalog rated. Jared i'd not with not love me some great asthma. God worked with we family for years. Diggle puts you guys on that. What ends up happening when they can block everybody else wanna and they're gonna see no. They had to move grady around a lot. That's the biggest person would see multiple front. But i think you know. I think this falcons defense. I need to see rotation united. See of committee can jump in davison so the guys in the front line. We need to see who are going to be our guys week four. Because i'm one of those people when you get into. When they get when the bullet start flying we have to have with the guys we have. We gotta have a unit that plays you know. Eighty know seven whatever it is six seven guys in the rotation back in a do it all. So that's corona i. I'm looking at the substitution pattern. Who's in what personnel groups. Whose what who's what package is commissioning being side on. Third downs is marlin coming in. You know what i'm saying. Do they put dante fowler. You know what i mean. Where does he lined up. How much does the jones come. And you know when you got all those smoke and mirrors on the first thing is how will use personnel. 'cause looks like in the two d. allowed guys are going to have to play and and being substitutional rotational players. Yeah one hundred eighty degrees here. And i think one of the biggest criticisms i had of the previous staff was that they didn't play the match ups enough in my opinion we we did run out the same guys. They did have different packages. But i i didn't see them. Targeting specific offensive lineman or specific matchups in the passing game. Or that sort of thing. So i think with dean pees and arthur smith. They've made it abundantly clear. Like we've acquired these players to do specific things like we want this guy matched up on this guy and we're gonna play twelve personnel and we know the opposing team's linebackers can't keep up with our titans that sort of thing so i'm also looking forward to see how these guys are deployed but one player in particular. I think a lot of fans are really excited about is the rookie edge. Rusher audio digi. Have you seen anything from him. So far you excited to see what he can do in this defense in his first year with the team. I'm always excited to see someone who has not attended you know You know it's getting old and easy. He has to to a team that needs the most important skill. Outside of being a quarterback that can throw the ball. and that's being a pass rusher. He has an opportunity and he's known getting shot but he's athletic. You know he's aggressive. He's shown ability to ban on the corner. He's shown great flexibility. And i just think what a great opportunity because we've seen this story before the guy on the other side fowler audience. Expectations got lots of money. And there's at one got. It comes in in. His expectations aren't quite as high as you know in the beginning but he puts into work and now he has not pretending. I'm definitely excited. 'cause i'm always pulling for you. Don't have to be hydrophobic. it'd be a great pass. Rusher you gotta use your moves in an understand when why and how but also have a lot of confidence and you've got to play. You gotta be fearless as a pass rusher because you're going to have games where you win. You'll have four or five games. You might not get a sack. Is those guys at mentally tough enough to go. Five games have a great game on that six. Go five games without an on the six game get back and become productive. Yeah and you know that you raise an excellent point about pass rushing. It's you might have a good pass rushing season. A lot of people you know arbitrarily say oh ten sacks means you had a good season and that's not necessarily fair as an example. You're going to be rushing quarterback forty fifty sixty maybe even more snaps in a game and you might have ten sacks on a whole season so the sack is just one tiny part of the whole package. Which is why. I'm really appreciative. That people are starting to look more at overall pressure eight. Because i think that's far more reliable in terms of evaluating pass rushers. It's pressuring tends to stay more similar year over year where sacks go up and down you know. There's a lot that goes into whether a play turns into a sack or a throwaway or a cube hit or whatever so definitely agree that password have two people need to respect. not just looking at saks. We're talking about past versus because that's not the only stat that matters out there but definitely want to. We have a couple questions from audience here not really questions. More of a comment from jason gains says chuck. I'll never forget you on. Nfl at works nfl. Networks greatest games episode specifically talking about the ninety eight championship. When you said about vikings kicker gary anderson anderson up gary blue history gary and then yeah corey colorado's similar statement. Here you choked. You blew it so a lot of left and right. Yeah the winters get to say what they want. So when you go back. You're talking about robert. Smith all chris carter they have. What when you're the winner. You kinda get the you get the mike in the end and they turn to show off so we turn to show off. So sal his real. We really did say that kind of taught on big time. Man travis hall wasn't a talker nor was less related. You know super nice guys but you know we did kinda them so if you would have been there and seeing how mean nasty eric. Fifteen to one. So many storylines behind that people really don't know about those dudes was really disrespectful in illinois and the fans and the whole culture. There was when you get done. You just wanted to be like told you so. That's kind of how it was. I digress. Oh we had more anderson on the show last week and he said how he saw a the banners at the vikings had all prepared upper announced they like one that game and how that was like an added drive now and motivation. Perhaps we saw that real quick. Let me say something. Real quick more history is written to the winners so think about this. Before that game. Gary anderson was considered a hall of famer. Actually some people considered him to be a better kicker. Morten one guy. Mrs now you know. I don't wish any negative on anybody but it's well document. He went in depression and had issues. And you know ended up moving to the countryside. And the other guy you comes. A hall of famer becomes a legend and so it's interesting in that whole dirty bird story. There are so many most storylines like that that no one really truly talk about. But it's like the the Thrill of victory. Agony of defeat you're going to have two different sites to football can tell a story that way because airy was he didn't miss a field goal all year. Is the one field. Go that he missed. That causes team from from realizing history. A real quick check. One question. I have for you. We you know if you fall to follow up enough on twitter you'll see The the animation. He brings to the table when it comes to being a pass rusher when it comes to being the defender for those who are not familiar. Let those liberals people know. What kind of mindset. Do you have to have to get after the quarterback on a regular basis because this is a different type of mentality especially in today's game. You mentioned it you senate. This is not this is arguably the second most important position on the field. Besides i've been a quarterback so what type of mindset bring to the field to the table in order to take a quarterback from fort works more than you got to be aggressive. You've got to be a dog and as a term that we use in the locker room and and people now use outside the locker room you got to be a dog. You gotta be you got. Listen as a pastor. You gotta be willing to hit someone so hard you willing to knock yourself out to the quarterback. That's a different kind of animal. Everybody built like that. Grady built like that. I'm built like that relate ray. Chris doleman built like that. John abraham built like that. You don't saying But then look guys you know. Vick visa built like that tacking built like that. Well not in like that so when you look at the history and look at some of the guys that are there and all these draft picks name built like that because let me give you a good example third rounders max. Crosby built like that with the raiders. You know what i'm saying. Von miller is built like that. So i think all these guys i'm naming the i'm gonna i'm gonna give you another one. That's built like that cam jordan note. Listen he's not on our team respected. Listen i'm just telling you wanna talk about beast. Let me. i'm talking about built. Like i mean he will. He's on another level of a dog. Let me tell you a scary story. Those funny stub real quick. Says we tell them out. Pass rushers so we're the von miller passer summit in vegas the first one right so how it works. Were on a bit off his top. Nfl pastor like an auditorium every pass rusher gets the clicker describing. What's going on on the air and the whole nine and so you know yanni walkaway goes up down goes up bond. Goes up You know just all these different pass. Rushers melvin ingram to tj. Well you know so now. He gets to go right. So he's represented saints and he's got the clicker so they're going through his sacks and so he gets to the falcons and he was upon record. I guess he segment rhine years ago. There was attack. Whoever the falcons got rid of love in the last couple of years he's a good start on other side. Who was the guy on upside. Jake matthews rugby ryan freighter. Yes shredder. he learned man. See this guy right here. I absolutely been hate him and guess what every time i go against him. I try to pumpkin. Because i know when i get into a nasty game he breaks down and i'm gonna miss him. That's a pass russia's mentality man that man even after he was gone from the falcons despise him just like me absolutely despise football despise. Now i can't to this day my football but unlike willie wrote i absolutely try to listen to try to split his wig and his tail. I get after tony. Boselli all of 'em then they can't deny but angles ain't get after me to boxing matches you understand what i'm saying like kerry collins like some of those guys man like i absolutely tried her kerry collins. I couldn't say back then. They tried to go for his legs man. So that was one of the reasons so to kind of pass rusher. I was and lot had to do because people give atlanta respect so we had to go out there. I did whatever it took was willing to get a fine as willing to talk trash as willing to do the things took and added a different dimension because when guy listen to this when you pass rusher and people fear you 'cause you ain't afraid to hurt yourself that's a different kind of fear that nfl players have because that's how playing them and it really is when you're going up against someone you're colliding every single play. That's something that the viewers at home. Don't really like see because you know if it doesn't happen you're not really looking Unless you're really trying to like look at the battle between the linemen and the defensive lineman but you're just going out it like every single time every time there's contact remember now we just hung about pass is the beasts cats on the run to now i played. I did everything so now. I'm you know. I think at one time what i had thirteen fumble recoveries in my career at one time was number one as one time number. Two number one is falcons. That was ever drafted so so at the end of the day on own run. It's the same thing so if a guy comes to trap me as a defense event. I'm a trap to trapper tackle blocks down. I'm not going to try to roll arm. I'm gonna try to wrong. i will. We were taught back in the day taught by bill. Colour the d. Line coach at denver. When tapper goes down not just throw a blind rid i will try to put my helmet my forehead inside his inside i and how will what go through. His inside is so now man people we also have a pass rush but the guys who played in my era. Who understand what i did. Look i'm a four-time five time. Pro bowl alternate man. I didn't make one but made an opera. Not the pro bowl. But if i played now i probably made six seven pro bowls. Yeah but ariza define pro bowl opportunities really define by the people in error. A man reggie white. I ain't going to read chris doleman. I ain't going over chris charles. Haley i ain't gonna him michael strahan. I'm not going over him. So in my era man. I was probably fifth and sixth best but in this area right here i'd be one of the best but you know. So that's the reason why add more and people don't even so when we talk about where i fit in falcons. History people talk about that but they talk about that with other people every guy. That's in front of me. That the reason if you go look at every pro bowl pretty much everyone before me. The guys that went to the pro bowl. Nfl hall of famers. Icons of dealine passer. So again i just came around era when we had reggie white and bruce smith in deir in your way like is outside of the enemy not much. I complained though. But i did have some obstacles but there are some things that that affects you and then think about it from my standpoint when you're looking at falcon history. Jessie tuggle made five pro bowls. Right i was there when he made his first pro bowl. When jerry glanville came and said you know jesse you made you know. Jesse went crazy and you gave his traditional wolves. But jesse was a five time. Pro bowl alternate so. Jesse tell plays in not in atlanta If he plays in dallas he's not just going to get he's not going to be a five-time alternate jesse Make ten pro bowls but again. So jessie tuggle truthfully should be on hall of fame ballot. But but that's a that's another story for another day so when they go to atlanta sometimes excuse me on draft day sometimes you go to atlanta in an era where. You're not really that good. And sometimes time some guys got to go them era to frisco so if i go to frisco elephant pass rusher with steve young and jerry. Rice in so destiny is sometimes dictated by your draft. Will you get drafted to and i was going to say. It's not just start your guys there. It's throughout all of allegheny. Mommy no not being in the hall of fame. that's true. Yeah after kurnia. Even steve barkovsky not that he should be not that. I'm saying he has to be nala bang but people don't really look at what bosque did back in the early eighties. And give him that. He's gonna because he was with the falcons. And i was just going to say we were talking about the ninety eight. Nfc championship game and everyone remembers morten andersen than you know the kick in rightfully so. But you're the one that changed that the entire course that game without sack at the end of the first half which you know set up the touchdown for the falcons. So if you don't get that sack you know there is no overtime. There is no morton. Anderson kicked it. And you know i was gonna ask is that. Is that the best sack of your career. You have you know a sack where moment that That stands above the others for you know above all else in your career. I think that's it. I think that's one at at the time it was needed the most i took a calculated risk. I knew that we're behind. I really just jumped count. And so i think they did a pass. I just took off really in bullrushes. Todd sfuzzi Just kinda reached out. But yeah i think i think that's it but i've had a few plays but nothing like that. I couldn't even make up a story and say that. Knock because it was. It was my best play as far as past sern. Yeah yeah yeah. Speaking of the Question from corey carter. He said ninety. Obviously the team was to know going into candlestick. You guys. The team played a good game narrow loss to the niners in for him. That seem like the turning point in that season looking. Like maybe the falcons actually will be different this year so yet talk about that game. Was that sort of the turning point for you guys at that. Did that game where you're able to sort of stick with the niners for the first time in a while. Give the team like a new confidence. Did i think it did. But i think we realize we had talent long. 'cause i mean we had a lot of players in the year before that i think we have won seven in a row or something like that towards the end of the year six out of seven or something like that and then came into the year really successful but there are a lot of times we will. You know we had some. You know good games against the niners. But i think i think that was. Yeah i think so but They beat us but we already had a chip on our shoulders about beating. Those guys we were we knew out. that's not. I gotta rewind now. I tell you when we knew we were good. It was in the summer we scrimmaged against the afc champion jacksonville. Jaguars with brunell and those guys and we beat them up. I mean we went at it now like i was going against a mean Tony boselli like for three days. That's not exactly the kind of florida vacation. You know leon searcy. They had those guys. And that's when we knew we were good when we beat those when we went hard in kind of the jaguars that year then we went into the season with two with no loss to the niners. It was scrimmage. It was a joint practice week with the jacksonville jaguars when they were previous. Fc champions they were like one of the top teams. That was actually the time when we really realized that we were going to be pretty good. Yeah yeah absolutely. We got one more from jason gains. It's vic beasley tech mckinley questions. So you know tread with caution but he just wants to know i did did vic beasley or tech mckinley. Ever make any effort to train with you. I think he. He says that he thinks he remembers you saying that. Maybe tack work with you at least once. Yeah yeah you need a real story about. That man is Even in college you know vic's coach when he was in college married hobby played in college with me at tennessee. They encourage coming up. You know backwards in college is want to help them work with them. You know college. I mean he was bending and spending remember victim dynamic and so then we got to the pros. I didn't remember now. So this like i try to explain times. I live here. So missile listening falcon is like you know what i mean. I'm going to restaurants on my cv. I might see you know the main made in one of the things you know like. I didn't really reach out to him like that. You know like great might tell a vic man. We're going to be jimmy. Do pre become victim on through. You know what. I'm saying and try to different relationship because we were kind of connected with bud and grady. Men has relation with his dad. And i know great. You know great for a long time. So but like one time. I reached out to him reached out to them to talk. Hold on my wife jumped on but One time we actually. We actually talked one time and he was like yeah. Come over with bud and he will continue to train but it never came man after that then so then. I started almost trying to reach him. Somewhat by comments through the media tried to challenge them a little bit again but like attack Molly roy at one time i was at falcons camp for like two days in Kinda showing trying to show tack how to cross shop in Lily a two minute set. You know like two minutes You know all along so despondent. We read like the falcons raft or something and tacking adrian. Clayborn came through. They were like going autographs or something that was on on the mike with ninety nine intact was like attack. You should come through. Let me teach you to cross out like Clayborn and he's like man already got it. I was the last thing. I remember tech desk already. Got it and then. I was like but remember again. See one of the things you know people say man. You want to be a coach. I mean who. Wouldn't i mean if someone came you. Try to be a coach. You'd be a coach you know. Make a lot of money. But where i'm at now truthfully guys i mean. That's a long time ago from from really wanting to be a coach. Weather's the falcons who anybody 'cause again. I live here so think about this. If i become a falcons coach and we suck. I'll get. I got live near the risk game. So i'm always telling people now. Consult that kind of thing you know so. But i don't need that. Work for the falcons to somewhat console me. I work with the best player i work with. I've had clayborn guys who get lots to the single season single game sack record. I asked him. I trained the single game. Well to single super bowl. Record guy in grady. Jared that okay so adrian. Clayborn broke my record in a single game so he got six. I got five point being. I don't really need the falcons of work with the guys. The guys who really wanna work. But you know. I mean i got network man. So it's hard for me to just solicit falcons some like living like right in the neighborhood. 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Restrictions apply see terms at sportsbook dot fan duel dot com gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler real clinton. I mean talent can only take you but so far you gotta have the work ethic to match that talent. That's is going. That's what's gonna keep him any. Everyone's talented like everyone in the nfl. Talented right yeah. You gotta brunettes at. Its and i will say if todd the cross job you. He was hiding it on the field. Because i didn't see it use. It was always there the back pocket. You know he just never showed it. Yeah just over tackles nowadays man their old sweet footed right. Let me tell you. somebody tapped mckinley. We can talk about now. But i wouldn't have disclosed falcon. The reason why tap mckinley got hurt so much because he had to reconstructed shoulders he would bowl rush. So if you ever go back and look at tacky bullrushes always on the ground. That's what he always be hurt so what he really needed to do was youth. Finesse moves. but it's a mindset. You know how you got some boxers that soon as they get in the ring they dance. They train all they trained for the fight when a dance and right moving around in susan gonna fight what they do they start throwing they get close up. Start throwing a slug fest so tax. That's what kind of pass rusher was but when you start doing stuff like that and you got injured shoulders. That's why he was always hurt because he would always use power and when he bull it always pushed to the ground and he would every time he to ground if you go look at when he got injured he was always boorish knepper has to. That's how he heard her shoulder in college. Thrown awkwardly voters at the blow. Russ and same thing out when he had injured the panthers a couple years back. Uderzo sex Allie alley wasn't the greatest boxer ever because the speed. Yeah yes. I love it of the insight. Yeah yeah check. I don't know how much longer you got If you guys have any more questions for him. Yup we're gonna go upstairs. And ninety eight say man guilty pleasures anyway. Seen that yet or a little bit off the show. Listen i'm telling y'all watching the glisten ga father of harlem watch empowered a new power. That's out man. Listen listen when you marry a twenty one years when you got three kids. One of the best things you do is sit down and watch shows. There's somebody watching they trying to act like that. Y'all young boys you're young. You're young men. i've seen her fiance. I admit i have seen it. Not the recent the the wisdom. Show us Yes rusher indie husband. Marriage advice to it's it's on the field stuff. I got come up. Og mega yeah. All right. eric. You got your last one here. Ready to go. We're equipment five years from now. Is jokes Nfl no five years now. Chuck smith is retired from pass rush coaching. I'm a consultant. And i'm sitting at home like this look i'm having clicker wait. Yup and i never. I'll never say never as but listen man i just. It's hard for me to sit in a room for seven hours a day every day. Dawn she when my kids are having events where listen being. A coach is a honorable job. As coach it is hard man because like this like Was it the eagles coach sir. yanni knicks johnny. They were like all he does every second all day every minute he does ball do. It's hard for me to do that. And i got i always have that feeling of. I wanna raise my kids so i would rather sacrifice 'cause i i usually get about three job offers a year usually one in college. I mean to in college like one in. Nfl like an assist in past coats. Never goats but i get a chance to be assistant coach. But i'd be sacrificing my key. It so it's like i said it's the honorable job but i'd rather my kids say. My dad was there than my dad was never dare because every coach that i've ever met an i'm serious note. They always say man if it wasn't for my wife raising kids. Yep so i'm not interested. Have my kids one day. Say dad when they're so that's why we usually the first they say when they retire. Do i'm gonna yeah. I want my kids. that's the first thing that same. Now you bring you bring the knowledge to the table. We see our time on twitter. At honest when i figured it was going to translate to a to you know you leading war on. Maybe it's holiday head coach job. Though is i need a they. Don't get it right down. they'll get it right down at the center. I'm saying i'll come down there. Terrence mathis will be the head coach. Bob winfield do the online. And i'll do the d. line and we will get popping and we will be do like dion eddie. George would have been a joke. That's your bloomberg brand new hire former players. Man we gotta get down to the you man bad. This has been an awesome conversation. Chuck thank you so much for coming on obviously is welcome back anytime guys. He is chuck smith at chuck smith. Nfl also asu show right alcoholic choke. When i'm on this show about right we got it. You got it. I'm changed the name plate for the next show do absolutely again. Thank you so much for coming on up and we'll get you back on at some point all right man anytime man. Certain man have a great night. You too thanks guys. That was chuck smith. The doctor rushed the pass. Rush specialist awesome to talk to him. What did you. What did you guys think of that he does. You deserve gonna do the show. Now we gotta talk about las morten andersen whereas the talk about like the roster is let me give the. I think what was interesting is even you know. We're not doing anything physically right now. We're sitting here. But like you can just tell by his voice in like his mentality like he's got that pass rush mentality forever like i bet if we were playing outside right now he'd wanna hit somebody like it's amazing. Yeah it was just. It's really cool to be able to talk to. You know guys that have been there to get all these different perspectives. And we had morton last week from the kicker perspective. We now the passwords perspective. Now it's like evan. You're setting yourself up like just now. It's going to be like who you going to get one every week. We're getting next week. We gotta keep the streets. Yeah somebody i have him back later on after you know to look at I'm he'll be reviewing some of these younger defensive players After a couple of weeks have come back on. Yeah yeah yeah i agree. I think i think we might have a special falcons guests next week. I'll see about getting Andrew hersh former alchoholic writer former writer for the team. I believe as well. I think he's going to be joining us next week. So daddy look forward to ever. Did you finally tell Other blank when he was would be allowed to more for a while. Yeah right excellent. At some point right we have. We have busy schedules safari. There's a waiting lists now. You guys got to apply not a lot of the cut. So yeah dave's running a tight ship out here but yeah guys thank you so much for tuning in and obviously we got some more show to go here. But in the me time. Evan get us. Tom brady next week talk. We'll try. yes you don't do you. The yeah guys hot in my dreams. Yeah for sure. I'm if we could get tom brady on. I mean i would do it for the ratings. Certainly but i wouldn't enjoy it. I probably enjoy it from like a professional standpoint but from a fan standpoint. That would be difficult one. But yeah guys before we kick off our next discussion here wanna remind you. I know a lot of you already are but you can donate to the show at the lincoln the show description if you're so inclined. Thank you so much to jason and corey for the great questions and that donations as well also check out the patriots page if you if you like what we're doing here you want to support us monthly basis want to get access to some exclusive perks exclusive content. The patriarch is patriot. Dot com slash alchoholic live. And of course we have to plug our post game show. Which is our biggest flagship show. That is on sundays or whatever day the game is this year it's mostly sunday and it'll be immediately following like ten minutes after i will break down the game immediate reactions and you guys get to see me sad or you know hopefully happy for more than four games this year. But you know we'll see. I know you guys seem to prefer when we lose so prefer the show when we lose not that you prefer team to lose but all right well i would like to get everybody else involved. We had a very obviously chuck smith heavy opening which was very exciting indefinitely. Enjoyed that i appreciate him. Spending forty five minutes. I was like i may only have like twenty minutes. We'll see but he stuck around forty five minutes. They always say that they always say longer. Yeah always been there. Don't do the what i really loved about. Chuck smith was like not only great stories and like great insight in that mentality but like this is a guy who leads a balanced life. Yeah and i feel even post. Nfl sometimes rare to see that. Like this is a guy who's got it all figured out and it was really cool to do that for him. Yup i totally agree i think. That's an underrated mindset for a lot of people everyone's so obsessed these days and our culture you know builds assist way sort of makes us think this way is that you just gotta keep going you gotta keep getting ahead and chuck is a life like look. I'm good like i have enough. I have a successful business. I was i had agree. Nfl career like. I don't have to keep pushing. When i can stop where i am now. Spent my family do the things i wanna do. An still professionally be satisfied and i think that's a healthy way to live and i approve of it one hundred percent. We don't even live a balanced life. You're at the alcoholic old writing and research at twenty seven million like four months. Yeah you can't leave that clause that you're a non non non finish that next year and dave upstairs. He let him upstairs after that last article did those good numbers yet come upstairs for change only for the weekend but yeah you can only stories and you're not going to go to the studio room sometimes for these shows but that's it guys. Let's let's let's. let's talk some philly eagles. I wanna get your guys perspective as well dave. I guess i'll go to you since i was. I was making way for for chuck here to begin the show. I wanna give you an opportunity to kind of weigh in on you know we. We talked about the falcons offensive line. A lot of new faces. How are you feeling about that in particular going into the eagles game. Yeah you know i am. I am concerned about it. I got what i wanted. Like when jalen mayfield was drafted when they announced him you know as a guard and i saw that kind of lining up for him to be the starting left guard. That is what i wanted. I asked for this right. So it's not the way i would have wanted it to happen with somebody getting injured but like this is the line that i thought we would get. This is the line that i wanted. And so i guess i'd better be grateful for it but yeah of course i'm worried about the interior. I think this first couple of Weeks and really beyond. But you know you've got philadelphia tampa bay. Some tough interiors. Mayfield really you know. Making those first starts ever hennessy. Making some of his first starts ever. Those guys are right next to each other. If one of them has bag game of both of them have a bad game. You're talking about some big problems and so that that is something that i do worry about like i. I like hennessy. I think hennessy is gonna be fine. I like mayfield term. I don't know about right this second being thrown into the fire there but the line is definitely the thing that i'm most nervous about. Just giving this match up you know. I think the phillies secondary's goon. It's not good enough necessarily to stop all these weapons. I don't think the philly offense is good enough to run roughshod over this atlanta defense. So i worry about the offensive line kinda slow this thing down. That's that is where i'm at and i would love nothing more than to see hennessy. And mayfield kick ass. Read out of the gate mayfield. Takes his job. Never looks back but kind of tough to expect that i think yeah. I think it's a tough draw. For the falcons. And week when i think if they were to get philly later in the season we might feel lot more confident about it. But we just haven't seen this offensive line play together. I mean more than what one snap to snaps. That was all the stars really played over the course. The preseason so we just don't know what it's gonna look like. I don't know if i should be like encouraged that arthur smith was like no need to play or if i should be terrified that he was like. I don't want anyone to see how bad this is. you know. Which one is the real. The real falcons. Truth here. But i i agree with you. I mean i. I guess i feel not that much concern about matt hennessy. Because it seemed like hennessy. Just kind of took the job and just ran away with it like it was not particularly close. They name tennessee. The starter pretty much within the first few days of training camp so that to me gives me a little bit of encouragement but with left guard. It's like jalen may feel even be starting. If josh andrews hadn't been hurt i don't know Donald i'll i'll go to you with this one. What do you think about left. Guard in particular jalen. Mayfield the starter. Are you happy with that or do you. Are you still secretly hoping that we bring someone in here at the end or is it going to be colby gusset at some point the guy we signed claimed off waivers. I'm terrified. i'm not sugar coating it and saying. Oh yeah like it's gonna be amazed. I hope it is like i hope. I'm sitting here on sunday. And being like man i was wrong about love guard. You know jalen mayfield. Didn't give up a single pressure. And he was just like you know he he. He's the guy at that position but no absolutely terrified. I think that's a glaring weak point in this offense of line just like it hasn't been the past few years but i think it it'll even be a downgrade this year as of right now because james carpenter last year about league average he was. He was decently solid at left guard. And i can. I can see you wear. Truck is go which we're trucks was going with it and saying that you know we really really Run and i absolutely agree with that. Because if you let you let fletcher cocks his ears back in. Just start getting out through the quarterback without having that established run game to lean on a i. I think the run and the play offs. And if the run game is going well can be the great equalizer to this In neutralizing the eagles defensive line. But if you start getting one dimensional and you know you start tipping your hand and letting the eagles know that. Hey we're we're going to start airing this out whether that's because we're having to play from behind or because the run game isn't working at all i think it could get pretty ugly on sunday And i feel like it's not like mayfield is going to be lined up against fletcher cox went on one. They're going to be chipping him. They're going to give him help But it's definitely not something that i'm feeling really really good about right now and. I don't think that this is what we have right now. We we didn't sign anyone Will we claim the guy from the cleveland. Browns off waivers. I don't think he's going to be much of an upgrade at position maybe like a serviceable reserve clinton accepting but yeah. I mean if it's if it gets really bad. They dip their toes into free agency in the coming weeks. But you know. I feel like if mayfield handles his own. And i'm hoping that that's the scenario than you know. This will be what we have. So yeah i am definitely worried about at this week because i feel like that match could move the needle into the eagles favor And that's something that you don't really see very much. Where one defensive lineman against a love guard can do that. Unless that'd be alignment is aaron. Donald on a week to week basis. And it's you know. It's not the eagles defensive line. Those that front four is the strength. That defense for sure i mean without a doubt i mean it's it's like j von hargrave. They signed. I mean he is a beast as well on the interior was that forgot about kerrigan. Yeah ryan carrying signed to be like a depth pass rusher for them which is pretty ridiculous that he's going to be like a depth guy for them. They mentioned chuck. Smith mentioned josh wet as well brandon graham. I a deep unit. Derek barnett is there to a deep deep unit. There's a lot of guys there. That front four is the strength that defense but behind them. The linebacking core is a disaster. I mean it's eric wilson alex singleton or they're starting linebackers. Those guys are downgrades from what they had last year which was also really bad. So there is a vulnerability there. I think they're cornerback. Group is okay. I think area sleighs. Obviously good. i think stephen nelson's like an average starter and avant maddox. He was not good last year. They're moving into the nickel probably should played all along. So we'll see you know if that's a better fit for him but the safeties they did upgrade there with anthony harris in free agency so you know secondary not a glaring weakness. It has been in years past but the linebackers are a big problem. So eric i was gonna go to you with this one. How do you think the falcons take advantage of that. One sort of glaring weakness on the eagles defense. Well chuck out a point as far as leaning on a run game at least early When you're dealing with a team like the eagles who their strength is on defense at least is their defensive line you know you you kinda wanna get them off their rocker a little bit. You know. these guys are opinions back. Get up so i get what he's saying when it comes to that However my thing is any any also made another point as far as slowly attacking that eagles defence based on like kinda a titan scheme was last year they were not. They didn't pass that they didn't. They didn't utilize a deep all frequently in tennessee. But when it did it worked in exaggerating. Yeah they were kind of. They were picking and choosing as far as win to attack the defense. That way When it comes to this team to to the eagles yeah honestly. You know hindsight you can look at it and say. Let's get these guys in coverage matt ryan throw it for eight times a game but we've been pointed out for the past years. Yeah when is that really work. For the falcons. Honestly you know. It looks great but we can't count a whole lot of games. Where messed on forty forty five passes anyone to me. Strategically like chuck said i will come. Lean on a run game a little bit early And get that defense to kinda slow themselves down a little bit yet. As far as getting at the matt ryan in then i want to explain those matchups on the back end until you right now just the titans alone calkins eight nurse. I don't. I don't think there's an athlete on back in. That can cover either one of those guys. Now maybe anthony harris but that's the only ones they may and i don't know that he's the same sense as injury so may but he it. That's the case. Then you're leaving. You'll even cabin really with plenty of one on ones without safety hope. Oh yeah and i know sleigh is back there but still slaves not gonna win every matchup like shutdown number one. I would say he's like an above average number one quality quarter but at the same time i should. Eagles defense wants to keep a safety over the top somewhere because of how effective cabin really can be intervened in the people So lean on a running game early. You may not be getting four or five yards a carry. I get it. Maybe getting three-rs pop because this is a really good divas line Make some place. Let's just good. No one hundred percent agree. I think the key is like normally. You don't want to run on second online and one hundred percent not do that but i think it could be part of the game plan this week to sorta forced the eagles into third and short. So they can. They can rely on kind of quick passing and dump off to kind of keep the ball moving because i think normally we would be in support of sort of being aggressive on second and ten. If you don't get much on first down. But i think against the eagles were the pass rushes their strength. You sort of half to kind of keep third down to a manageable number third and six thirty and seven at most in order to be able to get the ball out on time. How i'm how. I'm looking edit. Lean on the run game a little bit in execute short passing game. Let's get these. Linebackers and edifice lined chase from sidelines is get hit him with the run game. Get these linebackers to chase second-half start hitting the intermediate levels with with pits in her on the back end because at that point you linebackers are going to. They're going to have to be covering a ton of ground already at that point yet. So that's how do i would only on the chip kelly. Philosophy look basically. Yeah like i. But but the short pass just to get them off their rocker. Because that's how they wanna attack. They wanna they got the they got dogs on a leash and they wanna they wanna let these guys go and get out the matt ryan and the best way to do that is to slow him down lynch let them slow themselves down with the run game. Yeah i agree. And i think i think you have. If arthur smith is as smart and offensive minus we think he is. He's going to target their linebackers especially in coverage because it's a glaring weakness for them and they've sort of built their defense around that weakness and trying to get pressure to prevent that from being a problem. But i there's a non zero chance. And i think it's actually a pretty good chance. That kyle pits. Is the falcons leading receiver in this game. And he sort of has an explosive start his season because the matchup is set up for him to do so. But i i to me is going to be is going to be. Methodically is going to be slow me. They're not gonna bore us but saint time. It's they're pretty much going to be setting some stuff up in the second half. I think that is when you're gonna see the passing game blossom a little bit. Yeah and i think like to me like the play the falcons randa to kyle pits against the browns. It's like a little dump off to him. So he's just on a crosser and man coverage against the linebacker. No offense to eric. Wilson offense to eric wilson and alex singleton. They have no chance of keeping up on that grocer. This line hers up at as h back. Yeah missile dome balls just to get the ball in his hands on a parameter. Same thing could addison. I'll be using a lotta cordeiro patterson in this game as well. Oh yeah yeah and so. And that's a good thing to think of two. And i want to go to evan here. 'cause we haven't heard from evan much how do you think they might sort of attack that weakness in europe and you think it will be a heavy dose of kyle pits in his first. Nfl game or will it be to someone. Like maybe patterson out of the backfield. I think it'd be crazy not to make pits. But also you can do. Eric was saying use. Cordero patterson Hayden her style like the idea him being more of like a back role I kind of found it off. In the initial debt chart smith commented on it. Yeah commented on it yet smith. Yes yay arthur. Smith claimed that it was because they were listing the team in twelve personnel. So there wasn't space for that. But i don't believe had ideas of him doing a bunch of different things i don't know but Yeah i don't think you have to make calvin ridley the focus even though he's wide receiver. One also wrestled gauge isn't awful. Like i he could play a big role in this game So we'll see. But yeah. I think i think if you're looking primarily at the matchup is pits like should feast but it is his first ever. You know regular season game so i agree. That would be a good one to start on. Yeah and i think to me like i agree with you on russell gauge that avantis. Matic's is definitely the weak link in the cornerback group so target like russell gauge in the slot. Whenever they don't have to tight ends on the field. I think that's a favorable matchup. As well. for the falcons make them mitten governments. Yeah i mean. That's that's what i would do like look at week. One just unleash him like you've been hiding him all this time. For a reason right unleash him. Make them make them cover hearse. I would i if he's going to be a mess. Lot of naming allow him to see a whole lot of Or gauge the best. What they want as what they want and need seen maddux's better in the slap against the smaller receivers. Okay i gonna make you cover a six two hundred forty pounds. Yeah i mean. I would force as many linebackers on the field for the eagles as possible. Make them play bass because the linebackers or a lot worse than the corners so if you can force them into playing that yeah go ahead. Do i was just going to say you know. The thing with. Pets is like tony gonzales. You know the word. I think he praises guys plenty but him. Talking about pits being uncomfortable. I think every opportunity. You're trying to test that out and just see allen is yet so gotta try absolute. Yeah exactly just get bits any match began. Yeah i agree with you. Guys like the fewer times we see slot receiver on the field. That the expense of tight end. I think the better on this one. Yeah i agree. And i think that's probably why russell gauges probably going to be his last year the team because i have a hard time seeing them paying a slot. Receiver a lot of money to be here. And it's not because he's not good. Just because i think this lower zebra will sort of be emphasized in this offense because of the way they want to build things but they did keep trim on the practice squad so keep an eye on that for our future slot receiver. Maybe my my son austin travel here but yeah let's Let's spend some time. Talking about the falcons defense. It's usually a dark topic but you know hope springs eternal this early in the season. So maybe there's a chance the falcons defense could be okay right before we do that. Just another time to plug guys. Please subscribe if you haven't already. We appreciate everyone hanging out with us tonight. Almost to the regular season here. If you haven't already ticket the patriot page patriot dot com slash alchoholic and check out the community discord server as well. If you'd like to chat falcons with your fellow fans the linked to that's in the show description on youtube dad has started to fill up quite a bit over the past few months and there is a game day channel in there for everyone who wants to do. Live game day chat. That's a lot of fun so check that out. If you're interested in taking part in that but evan i'll go to you first on this. What is this our first chance. Really to see dean pees in action so like what are you hoping to see. From the falcons defense against the eagles week one just can be generic. Take or a specific. Take whatever you sort of feel. Like i mean i think the generic take is sax a lot of pressure just stuff. We're not used to seeing Specifically i germ preseason like you know how we all focus on a couple of guys one of the guys. I really focused on that. I liked what i saw in. Apparently it paid off for him Was jonathan bullard on the defensive line. he's got technically according to the week one starting chart he's a starter So i'm kind of excited to see you know more of him. We saw limited and he made some splash plays i think he had one or two sacks during the preseason but he was like anytime they got pressure early he was usually involved So that'll be exciting I wanna see the You know starting safeties finally together. Air karasin harmon. Because we haven't seen him on the field together. I believe harmon was in a little bit of action last week. by air carriers hasn't played it all so they'll be interesting to see like bolt starting safeties out there. This episode is brought to you by phillips one by sonacare one of your brushing with phillips one. This one is the ideal one for those who are still using an old school manual toothbrush to all those people. It's time to take your -freshing one level up. The solution is a simple one. 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Yeah like any. Yeah yeah so. That is very interesting. I agree. I wanna see what techniques like and. I'm not sure because. Obviously i'm thin but i think probably came away more impressed with our depth that safety I think jalen hawkins enriching grant into action. They solve during preseason. Look great I it's promising going forward. Considering how young both players are absolutely and looking at how the falcons defense matches up. It's really kind of a wild card. How the eagles will be. We don't know how good devante smith will be. that will be. Obviously one of the main know sort of turning points in this game can't afford to smith be the weapon that the eagles have lacked at wide receiver for the past several years. Jalen ray did not pan out the way they. He was not took them over. Justin jefferson. yeah yeah and you know. My dynasty team is certainly hoping that jalen regular eventually turned into something that is. They're hoping obviously for a lot from devante smith. I'm sure they're hoping for something from jalen ray gore but the big weapon on that offense is the tight ends. They're kind of similar to the falcons. In that way. Right they have zakar. It's they have dallas. Got her a very potent too tight end attack so odd donald to you with this one. How do you think the falcons are going to match up in terms of coverage against this eagles passing game. I definitely think that dean pees will will try to speed up the clock against Against jalen hurts because you know jalen hurts someone who we've seen last year. He had his moments Definitely after taking over for carson wentz but he also had some moments where he clearly looked like a rookie and looked like someone who For whom the moment was you know slightly too big. So i definitely think i liked that. We're going up against hurts right away. Early on in the season I don't think you know he's really proven quite yet and This is just something where i feel like the pressure. The dean pees brings to try and speed things up for that could force mental into a few mistakes because her. This are hurts. This is still someone who probably still in his mind. How last season he was pulled through was benched. His completion percentage wasn't really that high. His your passing numbers his rushing numbers were great but his his passing numbers weren't really all there. So you know. I definitely think that that's something where you can kind of take advantage of it mentally in going up against Against someone so young and still so little bit raw in his nfl career. Definitely not something. You'll be able to do very much of next week against tom. Brady was the exact of all of that. But yeah i definitely i definitely think that dean pees will he's gonna he's gonna be blitz happy all season but i think he may bring the heat a little more in this game than what we'll see in future games against against non young quarterbacks. Yeah yeah and dave is going gonna go to you with this one You know jalen hurts. Is known more for his rushing ability. One of the best rushing quarterbacks in the nfl last year even in only a few game sample size how you think or how would you sort of try to limit his ability to run the ball because that was really where he had the most success. When you kind of get out of the pocket and use his legs would you take a blitz heavy approach which you use more spies and try to force him to throw the ball. I would just have grady jarrett's saddam. Yeah i like. Oh you can just sit on No i i would probably i would. I would think about having a spy. I think the thing with hurts is in my mind like i. I actually like jalen hurts. I think he can be a good. Nfl quarterback but i do think his instinct especially against the blitz. Happy defense is going to be to take off. And i think if you're gonna send the house every time out to try to force him into making a bad throw that's gonna work out for you occasionally might even work out For you enough to win the game. But he's also going to just take off a lot because he's confident in his legs and he should be vis a very good scrambling quarterback. I can't tweet about him in a funny way. Like can with matt ryan. Because it's actually yeah. Yeah so to me. Yeah you wanna have somebody who's got eyes on him pretty much all times because the very last thing you want to do is be so aggressive that you're giving hurts a chance to rip off fifteen. Twenty thirty yard runs in. Keep this thing moving. I don't think the eagles offense it as much as i like. Some of their playmakers is good enough to win this game on their own. Unless you just can't account for for herds taking off and running. So i would be a little bit cautious about that And i would save the you know the non stop. Endless blitzing for tom brady. Who is forty four years old and still hasn't had a cup of coffee recently. So yeah that's that's how i would play it. We'll we'll see how it goes. Maybe they'll just get after him. He'll get rattled and he won't take off but i very much doubt that. Yeah i mean he's gonna take off he's gonna take off a lot so if they're gonna blitz him and i don't think he was a bad idea necessarily but if they're gonna blitz him they need to have somebody like they're in casey survives the blitz because otherwise asking and i feel like i'm not saying just go zero blitz on every time i like the idea of bringing a fifth man and also leaving. Maybe leaving a dion jones as a spy just because john jones has the speed to keep up so even if even if jalen hurts kind of like you know runs away from it. You still have beyond jones right. They're closing at the angle. Yeah i like that. I mean. I think dion jones could be a really good sort of running quarterback a racer because he is faster than just about every quarterback. If not all quarterbacks even guys like justin fields and trae lance jones reportedly ran into the hi four threes at his pro day so i liked that strategy. That could be good. Eric how would you sort of try to to neutralize jalen hurts would you like to blitz as well or are you playing sitting back zone and trying to kind of contain and let him make mistakes as a passer. Did we loser now. You're going to give him a mixed back you know. I'm going to wake him. Be a traditional quarterback passer which he's probably not at that particular point in his development yet But i'm also gonna Throw some bodies. Our man The one thing that i do feel comfortable about with this defense go to because hers is the athleticism at linebacker. In case he does know the ball down at intakes off Having dion jones haven't awoken haven't even michael walker That's a nice trio of athletic linebackers. That i believe you know the if they need to chase him down they'll be able to get apple The one thing about jalen hurts. The guy's gonna mentally he's gonna bring it for four course he doesn't care what the score is he doesn't care what the circle the circumstances are guys gonna play football in. His team wins at the end of the day. His team wins at the end of the day. Nothing gets to So blitzing maybe one thing that. Try to throw him off. His mental rocker from telling guy is alway. He's a gamer. nothing gets him mentally. Nothing throws him off when he's concentrated. He's concentrated but i'm just not one allowed him to be comfortable. Yeah no not were. Allow him to anticipate a anticipate a blitz. and i'm not going to allow him sit back and think that we're not come. He's he's gonna have to before quarters she's just wonder what a hill we're going to do. And and this is this is going to have to be a game where Discipline is going to matter a lot because not only hurts. Mouse is receive writer backfield. A we got we keep that in mind. You mentioned zach Now's gutter those nice to safety house right there. Also keep in mind. They haven't been utilized a him a whole lot but they got some size parameter. Golly jay sigel whiteside right. Who's six six with the longest arms. I've ever seen in my life you know. I'm pretty sure they're going to try to get some jump balls up to him so again. Discipline is what's going to matter to this to this defense In if they're able to do that. I think they'll be able to to to you know. Squeeze out a win here. They're only three and a half point favorites. No it's not much. yeah i mean. It's a closer game. That i think people are thinking it really just depends is devante. Smith's ready to be the number one target right now is jalen rigo ready to do something anything can. Jj sega whiteside do something anything quiz. Watkins what do they have in him as sort of their third receiver you know. And and how does the offensive line because brennan book brooks's limited. So they got. They gotta rookie head coach. They're going up against as well. You know where syria syrian. This is he a. We all remember his press conference. His introductory press conference wasn't great. Ten-year-old said a best start so you know. I'm going in this game as well manly. Hey are we which rookie head coach is gonna make the first mistake. Yeah exactly yeah. Yeah and it's like serianni. I agree and honestly the other thing with the eagles is that the depth at corner is non-existent. It's zach mcpherson. Is their backup cornerback. If any of their stars miss time the death is not no. It's bad but that's i guess when you have to defensive line yeah you can. You can cover certain things like right. So that's what they're hoping for. I'm sure zero. That's what they're hoping for but Yeah guys any any final eagles takes before we wrap it up tonight. Only thing i'd say. Is you know as we get closer to this matchup. I i kind of pencil in. The eagles is one of the easier games on schedule. Just seeing the talent on hand and looking at some of the matchups makes me realized. There really aren't many if any easy games on the late this year. And i think that's really going to test. The mettle of this falcons team right like terry. Fonteneau has been adamant you know at least publicly that This is a team. That has not rebuilding. They are contending. And so if you're gonna you're gonna show it. There's no cupcake games for you do Kinda roll here. They're going to have to earn it. And i think this is really great initial tests for them against a team. That's kind of figuring it out. Just like they are and is plenty talented enough so they win this one especially if they win comfortably. I'm gonna be feeling pretty good. I wanna pull everybody. Real quick was more likely to happen. Honey rushing game but his offense or defense getting five plus x. Hundred defense now. I think. Russia games much better. Yeah i think they're kind of on mike. Look like as a team they get hundred. I'll okay as i mean as a team giddy as a team you y'all the team one hundred yards just because our smith. That's i know. He had derrick henry. But you see groper real one. That's the thing people don't realize. How handicapped the falcons rushing attack was by dirk cutter. I mean that was the least inspired rushing attack. I think i've seen in many years. I mean it was lifeless. I mean there was nothing to it was it was just the most boring vanilla rushing attack. You could draw up. And even changing that i think will be a little bit different for a second for some reason. I thought the question was. Mike davis getting a hundred yards and happy. That would be just putting up a hundred rushing yards. Yeah i think. And i'm rooting for the scenario where the team employs a nice running back by committee that season where you know cordeiro patterson's in there on passing downs lang goldman is in therefore short yardage warrick and mike davison therefore you know the baseline first and second downs in between the twenty s. Mike davis great receiver. To don't don't i mean he is but he's no cordeiro. Powder's never even know. Dave you win but the sex i did i did. I think this is one of those games. Where because of who hurts is and i think if you can legitimately rattle him they could get five sacks. I do think that. I think they'll pay for it if they're super aggressive at times but i think they could sack jalen hurts five times and i think in my mind just given how aggressive i do expect the game plan to be. That's more likely than hundred yards rushing as team. Interesting you the rushing yards. No yes. Because i i thought it was the if it was mike davis i was with the defense obsessed but yeah i just think that's more likely in. I mean it's possible. That like i dunno. They do some trick play. That patterson collects forty yards on rush or something in that really helps that case but yeah yeah i do i do want to. I'm going to read your donation But well we'll wrap it up with these real quick before we get to our score predictions as the final notes that think of your score predictions folks before you got a few seconds here but Corey carter with the five dollars. Thank you again core. We appreciate that he says week. One is maybe the most important regular season game because it can build momentum for the season. it's definitely important. You know. I think it's maybe a little bit overrated in general. Just because you know you. Look at the falcons. Twenty sixteen slow start. It really matters. I think more how you finish. But we've also seen how very poor start can kind of ruin your whole season. Which is with. The falcons have experienced each of the last several years so i would like to them to to start strong. You know again. That would be nice if we could see that And then finally from guy. Fieri ak solaire with the three dollars. Thank you brother. He says guys got to ask the really hard questions here. So get ready. How many games until draft takes week seven and two thousand nine hundred ninety two and two thousand twenty. He's giving it until week thirteen this year. Some of you guys maybe thinking playoffs with galaxy brain math like last year. Yeah i you might as well ask me without one layer like is directed. Right at me. I was i was on now. We know you. He was in support of your draft. After week to eric. I think he was throwing shade. Ask for pretending. They make the playoffs after week. Seven seattle was order now. Playoff hopes adding where we were like. What two and six scenarios well then was like week after week we had to write that they were not out of the playoffs and like i knew they were dead in. My heart. can't be writing about the plants but they weren't dead. They weren't dead. They were like oh they might add an extra team. Because that's what gave me hope other serve because at one point we're just a half game back just replay on. We will help twice like there's no way we're losing. The taste of hill is a touchdown since high or two in sixth Came when he was popping off slit scenarios might do. It was the biggest mental gymnastics. I've ever done in my life. Yep yeah yeah. I agree with you there. That's a yeah yeah yeah. I think it'll be like in the teens. Probably hopefully it's all seasonally can we. Can we leave ones. Google playoff run world war. I start talking about the draft. You know in the later part of the season just because they will be interesting prospects and things like that. But i don't know if we'll be like full-on we're out of the playoffs. Draft takes mode at any point this season. But i think the draft takes will start in like fourteen fifteen ish but it might not be because we're eliminated might just be because we're interested in the draft. I will say it's i think it's incredibly important even more so this year than like before the team gets off to a better a good start week one like dave mentioned that the eagles should be one of the easier teams on your schedule. You drop this game in philadelphia your all. In one the rest of the season you have six home games left and nine road games and then that one london game so you're already on completely on the back foot also. This team literally hasn't been above five hundred since twenty seventeen like for the last three years they have at no point. Been above five hundred odd. They've been they've had a two nine record in september over the last three years combined. Six seventeen record in september october. So you know. I feel just as as a mental hurdling to clear the mental hurdle of you know getting above five hundred getting off to a a good start in nod completely falling behind because there's plenty of players on the team that for the past three years. That's all they've known in know some of them being drafted by the falcons all. They've known as art worth so far in the whole that were not even playing competitive football in november. So i think this season it's incredibly important to you know one win this game. That's one of the more winnable games on your schedule against philadelphia because you tampa bay next week i. I'm not taking us to win in tampa. You're already staring down the barrel of owen to record at that point and you know how we saw how quickly it can snowball just from last year. That owen to how quickly it can possibly go down to you know maybe an owen five and then all of a sudden all right now. Now you're out of it again now. The fan base has again lost interest. You know you're not gonna see that. Don't that mercedes benz stadium even close like half full yet. You're if you're getting off to that kind of start so i think just for this team's culture under new head coaching regime and just for the mental sake of these players and the fan base. You cannot get off till one in three start or a one enforced earn. Oh and five star the way we've been seeing the past three years. Yeah yeah hundred. Percent agree and i think look. I think they need to win this game if we want to have a lot of hope this year obviously if they dropped his game. It's not like the end of the world or anything but like if you can't beat the eagles you're were probably like needing to pump the brakes on things like okay like you know. Terrified to know. Was you know. Maybe a little bit aggressive saying they. We're really going to be competitive. Like i wasn't sure. I believed it but if they lose to the eagles at home and week one. That's not exactly showing a lot that you'd want to see right off the bat there will still be time for them to turn things around but they they really need to beat the eagles. They need to do it. So i mean i think that's where i am but speaking of beating the eagles. What are your predictions dave. I'll go to you first. What what is your prediction for this opening game. I got falcons twenty-seven eagles twenty one. I do think they'll win. I am as i think we've all said i'm less certain about this team in so many ways than i have been a long time with a new coaching staff seeing. No starters all preseason pretty much. But i just think that they are the better team than the eagles right now and i think they will win this one at home so i really really hope they win this one at home because if they start oh into yeah. We're we're starting in that draft talking. I ready for that. Yeah i agree. So i'm hopeful as well. I'll go to evan next evan. What's your score prediction. Twenty four sixteen I'm gonna say. Calvin ridley scored twice. Oh yes a cavalry is responsible for fourteen of the sixteen of the twenty points. Big big kevin really fantasy owner No actually yeah. I actually have a lot of shares of mike davis so odd non speaking the truth about the possible. He made me nervous slightly one. I'm sorry david spending the owners odd. I'm not seeing this season expensive. For most cases was he not like a fourth round highly. Got him a little bit later. Most of my leaks. I think people were afraid of the committee. So i think i got him like the sixth or seventh league at one point and i was like okay. That's reasonable like that's like rb four five sort of line so i'm okay with that but enough of the fancy takes for now. Okay eric unix. What's your score prediction. Say twenty six twenty. I think the difference in his name will be the defense actually creating internal. Yeah yeah that's good couple second half turnovers and you start to see a little change in the whole the whole regime presumed normally we get the turn of than they normally. Don't make anything. I who turnovers brad. Brinkley zine panacea changle yup yankees. Econo- defensive touchdown. Let's get some we've had one is. Oh i see yeah well. That's what we have raiders right. The yeah no. I think they just they just get a couple will time second half turnovers in the nfl. Let's go off time. We've had a well-timed turnover. We'll take that. We'll take all right that leaves just me. I believe so. I will also go. With the falcons here will say Twenty four to twenty falcons. And i think it will be the falcons sort of pulling away and the eagles do score late to make it closer. But i think The falcons do still hold on and win the game. They don't kevin. I don't appreciate that. So i you'll leave me out of the tweet and now you completely skip over me in the prediction. Oh wow i thought i thought you were what now because you said that now not gonna call it go ahead. Wow i actually said to make sure. I actually said that. Yeah to make sure that everyone got to predict. I knew someone would say something. He's just going to say. Matt ryan is going to have a. That's why i skipped you go ahead. You know josh rosen. Comes in the second half and alabama and then the fan base turns to the job frozen. No in all seriousness. The braves are holding off the phillies and in china least in baseball. The hawks ended the process in basketball. I think the falcons continue the trend of atlanta owning philadelphia in sports And the year twenty. Twenty one. I i was also going to say twenty four twenty but now we'll just revise Twenty seven twenty okay. I like his little little spicier little more pro atlanta. I think that's fair. So yeah the fact what. You're wearing white at home for the first time that i can remember like ever did against denver. Oh really when was was that last year or okay well wasn't weren't or did we lose that game. Not no that was that was the game. That was the game that i just terrell going against tutti yet i was burston. You were just you own a cloud nine at that point at an endemic. Yeah yeah. I've lost win and beyond it's very may have been. I don't think we wanna game that because their home. Yeah they meet the raiders after their couple. Maybe wha i know my my hopes will completely crushed after we lost the saints for the first time. The second time was just icing on the cake. Maybe the raiders didn't do anything you all never felt this happy beaten tasting the first time. Then the raiders then is like our. Wha- tastes him again next week looking at three in a row you know i was talking myself into. Yeah may maybe can be tampa later on to you. Know you don't even bring that game the one would have. It was what twenty one and three leaders. I was waiting for us to lose that game. Without point you know owes looking at the draft. I think we all. I think we were like. Oh the falcons are up like you know not for long funny. I look back at that now. Unlike tastes them hell. Of course they were gonna lose the taste of mel yet. That was obvious. Like i don't know how year after year we fool ourselves into thinking things like man can be tasted held. It just doesn't happen. Really is not really the time that they loss is how they they lost. Always it's always is liberal like. Oh man played that team or for four quarters. They just came up short like no. They lost the game because they actually sorted tests now when they weren't supposed because that just became built into the culture of of a dan quinn football team over the years and then before that mike smith football team and when you string those two together like you just have a whole era of a team just choking gave because they were afraid to recover and you know. We're not going to rehash us. I'm gonna go and wrap this up here. We're talking about this after guy after. Yes we've got seventeen games to complain about this team okay. Let's like a week. One with at least some level positively okay. we're not going to rehash the dallas game. Save that for an equally infuriating moment in the regular season this year. Now you can see what they have in store for us this season. Oh maybe it'll be different this time. That's what we always say. Dallas all you already know. We're getting shut out in my game. That would be nothing. That would be pretty typical. So all right guys smog. 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I'm not trying to go back back down to the boiler room where your elders censor ever. Finally we have with us. Eric robinson he is at underscore. Eric underscore robinson eric anything. You're working on your lights. Let the people know about Yeah we got a game preview coming out later this week so feel comfort that And every any and everything to later always check. I got a hold on this one. Stop shop one-stop and es espn yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Mr big time over here. At least he's able to make time for us here on on our little show. Yeah yeah yup that plug look at that plug. What company we're here. Yeah but yeah. Appreciate eric coming on tonight. Appreciate everyone ratings are going to jump up get them all you know ninety people that are still watching for that plug. We're going to be laser focused on. Espn two at this point. 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Hopefully fingers crossed starting the season with a victory getting above five hundred for the first time in like Three years or whatever it's been so until then guys have a great night. Enjoy the first game of football tomorrow. Where it's really hard to figure out who to root for because i don't like dallas cowboys and i can't root for division rival so really just kind of going to the games. I guess i do hate the cowboys more. But what about our chances of winning the division. They'll be better if if tampa loses. They'll be better enough though. I think we should probably just write that one off. But we'll see we'll see but they'll tie in both limbs. Hey there you go then. Everybody else wins. Exactly i will say. It is very falcons at the bugs now. Ten days of arrests between the cowboys game and are we to much. Yes that is perfectly falcons. This whole season schedule really is designed to screw over the falcons conceivable show. 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Falcoholic interview: Dave Choate

The Falcoholic

37:29 min | 1 year ago

Falcoholic interview: Dave Choate

"This is the podcast. The official podcasts of the Falcons on the desperation podcast network. I Have David Walker W. and this is the first in a series of podcasts. Were you the listener? We'll get to know our stable of writers over asked. Of course we have to start this series with the man who started it all hundreds and hundreds of years ago. He is the site runner editor in chief and the wind. The wings is the alcohol himself. Dave Dave thanks for doing US hundred years ago. Allah you predated the National Football League with your coverage of the National Football League. I created many concepts that we'll be discussing on this golf. Yeah Oh so. I thought this would be an interesting series for people who listen to podcasts. For them to get to know are different writers. We have a very very talented very interesting group of people that right. At the FALCONS DOT com. I but I think a lot of people don't know much about each one of yourself included so this podcast is an opportunity for our listeners to learn a little bit more about you what you're doing at the site why here to get some of your motivations So let's just jump into some questions so the things our listeners may WanNa know First of all I guess. Simplest thing is you know. You actually didn't grow up in Georgia you're not from Atlanta. What made you a falcons famine in. When did that happen? You know Like all tragic stories that I was. You know it's hard to say exactly when it started but I trace it back to about the ninety one playoff I just I was seven years old. Maybe not even seven at that point and I remember watching them. Beat the saints Which would become a lifelong obsession and loving the team? Probably something about the uniforms again. I I was seven so you know it's hard to remember exactly what piqued my interest. But from there I remember sort of looking paper fall box scores. 'cause the Games weren't on that often and then I got Tecmo superbowl for the Super Nintendo. And I played as the Falcons non stop and it just kind of grew from there where I was following them. and then it got obviously easier and easier for me to do so which may or may not have been a good thing so it comes from an unknown place. I guess I just fell in love with them at an early age for no good reason. You're I am on that note. What's one of your earliest memories fond or otherwise? Obviously this this team there can be some very dark. Mary's whether somebody earliest memories of his team I have some very good memories of Andrei rising I loved Andre Advice as a kid. Jessie Tuggle. As well. Just some of those you know place especially with toggle. Just you know in your memory. These things grow to where like I can see in my mind's Eye Jessie tuggle Tackling Guy. And he just like folds into himself and disappears you now Just remembering those kinds of big plays and I also remember a very very distinctive memories of Bobby Bare playing quarterback for the Falcons And I don't know why that is stuck with me so much and I really wish it had but I I remember him very very clearly Right down to the hair and everything which was choice that was towards the back end of his career and his arm had basically fallen off. I remember the Bob Era Experience in Atlanta which was a bit weird since I think he spent most of his career with the saints for him to migrate over to Atlanta The site the Falcons was at your first foray into writing about this team What when did you start writing about this team in in if it wasn't the alcoholic where was it? Can you give us a little bit that backstory? Yeah so it was. It was the Falcons Nick So going into college. I wanted to go into sports writing. never never. I never really ended up doing that. as a traditional newspaper reporter or anything like that But what I did do was in two thousand six I remember I was reading another. Sp nation site Leave Alberta which was the Saint Louis Cardinals blog at the time And a couple of others and you know being really impressed by them This is back in the Dark Ages. The Internet But they were really well written. They were cool. They were frequently updated. And you know I was thinking that would be a great way to start a career like that And and to do something with the team that I actually cared about a lot so I reached out to espy nation in two thousand six and at the time there was not a single and see South blog in existence. I think they're only like a handful of NFL blogs period for each team. And so I said to myself you know you. You don't have a ton of experience but again it was the dark ages of the Internet and I reached out to writing samples and little story about how long I've been south in San. How excited I was about The two thousand six season which again in hindsight not a great idea but You know kind of worked out for me. I got lucky enough to kind of get a trial run at that in October. Two thousand six and somehow they haven't gotten rid of me syncing so that's almost almost fifteen years. This'll be your fourteen. That's pretty remarkable There are people that will be into their third or fourth marriage. At this point being that you're a writer and for those of us who write about this team obviously You will express some strong opinions or takes as we call them on the INTERWEB and I would say you more than most get held to task for some of those takes in. Hindsight Hindsight is always twenty twenty as they say. But what's what are the worst takes opinions that you put out there sort of proudly or with confidence that you look back on and you think. Oh my God. That's that may be the worst opinion I've ever fielded about this team in my time covering him. So many choices right I. I feel like that's true. You know anybody if you're writing about sports for long enough You're GONNA whiff really badly On a few things I think obviously my track record in that regard is not any better than anyone else's and it's probably worth but it's hard to be. It's hard to beat the Matt Ryan. Take that I had leading up to the draft Which was of course that. Falcons should draft Glenn Dorsey and now I and I was very very Adamant about that one And that was partly because I had seen You know a fair amount of of Matt Ryan's career. He was local Going to school at Boston College so I'd seen those games. I didn't love him as a player. Then and you know such a pivotal off season for the Falcons with everything that had happened. Trio you now skipping town. And it's like the franchise was kind of inflamed and just didn't want them to get it wrong so I was not pro. I was definitely pro. Dorsey and I think that take looks worse. Every single year Ryan ends up in Canton Someday. You know that's that's pretty nuclear. Take in hindsight. I know I wasn't alone. That's the only thing that gives me any comfort but that was that was probably my worst one just given how badly that's gone off the rails or or I guess the opposite. How how well? It's worked out for the team on that note. What is maybe one of the best opinions? You have where it held up and if anything maybe you were you were dead on with one of your predictions Well there's a couple of different ones that I look back on. I guess pretty fondly one being that you know Julio Jones was probably it I was a little bit tepid going in but I've always felt that you know elite receivers I I know. There's a lot of weird opinions about receivers out there right now. Like they're not. You can't win a super bowl with one You know if you catch more balls and everyone else. You're better than everyone else. All those weird things but with Julio he was so special in could tell right out the gate and I was pretty confident that we was gonNA work out And I feel pretty good about that another one that I feel good about but really didn't pan out. In the Falcons was I was very much on the drafting Justin Houston Found Tran- yeah so incredulous that you know. His stock was hit as badly as it was by. I think marijuana. I think that's what it was And so you know I was. I was stumping for him. Card Co. in the run-up to that draft and I was you know right to do that but obviously he landed someone else. Yeah that was I think as a matter of fact Scott only who was good friends with Metro. Hut jumped ahead of us to draft him. In the second rounds I remember right. I think that's true. Yeah so We owe Mr Pelia a nice pat on the back for that one. So what is something that our readers slash listeners may not know about you? That is interesting different. Maybe something that in the past fourteen years of covering the site that probably no one knows about. I don't know if no one knows this but I think it's such a small thing Maybe it only gets passed around the writers group but I I was briefly along with Gina Thomas in hard knocks back in two thousand fourteen actually went down to training camp that year To cover the team you know was hoping that things were going to work out better than they did that year. This is kind of the theme of this. Podcast by I you know it was one hundred degrees out there. And the cameras were on and At one point Devante Freeman. Cutting down the sideline and there. I am wearing like free pounds sunscreen to do if you're from up here and so that's something that I guess. Most people might not know. I think the other thing is that you know I. It's funny in this business especially 'cause we want a blog and don't do a lot of actually reporting unless we get something that's really solid but that that is actually my background. That's when I was a school for and I did spend four years as a newspaper reporter Before the Alchoholic really took off So it's it's always kind of amusing to get the journalism ethics Word am I looking here lecture from somebody on twitter in egg. Avatar OR WHATNOT A. The eggs the eggs of best. All right some falcons focus question for you. Who is your all time favorite player and why? Y- it's definitely still Jesse And again I think you know when your kid? These guys are giants in a way that they can't really be. When you're an adult I take somebody like Julio who is my current favorite Falcon You Know I. It's as close as it comes because he's just almost larger than life himself But for me it was always talking. Tuggle was just an amazing player. He was so physical Always felt like you know. He was just ripping people's heads off left and right And as a kid where like big plays and big hits such a cool thing It was so great to get to watch you know the prime of his career in Atlanta. So he'll always be I think my favorite But you know guys over the years. Have also been in that category Definitely Julio Jones My Love Terrence Mathis Alive and of course huge Mal Anderson Fan and then huge work done fan and basically a fan of every running back with the short career that's come through Atlanta on But you know been pretty lucky. I. I'd say you know I think it's tough. As as a falcons fan because they fall short again and again but we've also gotten so many cool players that have come in through here and we're so talented and so elite for even just a short time you know. I think it's it's easy to lose sight of that. But the Falcons haven't been the the true sad sack franchise in a while now and so. I feel lucky that I got to live through the better years of this although I still hope they win a super bowl before and so on that same note I mean you mentioned Hilliard. But is he your favorite active player on the team? At this point he is he is. I mean him Dion Jones. Obviously I love that Ryan And I find myself defending Matt Ryan Lot And I kind of Oh it to him to like him but yeah who who. We own depot. I think I've always been again drawn to those guys that can do the impossible right and it always feels like Julio Jones is doing something impossible and and beyond Jones every now and then like pick. I'll never forget that. Pick when they were all red jerseys against drew brees in the end zone? How the hell did he do that? And I just love those moments so guys like that. That are kind of again. Larger than life Will always be some of my favorites so before we go forward with the rest of the questions. Got Forty Davor. We're GONNA take a quick break. We'll be right back. Hello this is Jesse David Fox. I'm a senior editor at vulture. And the PODCAST. Good one a podcast about jokes. It's a podcast about well jokes. Every week I sit down with a comedian. Comedy writer or Director Willis to one of their jokes figure out how it all came together. I don't sit down with a pen and the pad and physically write down everything I just has not my style turns out comedians. Take jokes pretty seriously. I like all jokes. Okay that's what I do. That's what I live. There's really nothing else I care about. It's all very revealing. What did you sort of learn from this? What was your takeaway? Nothing I am not? I'm sure mar curse. Good one from volt. In the box media podcast network. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. Or on your favorite PODCAST APP. You do not use the Puck Katherine. I'll let a great question Jesse David Fox Rebecca. Fuck Lajolla podcast. This is David Walker. I am joined by the alcoholic himself. Dave Chote and we're talking about his time as a writer or covering the Falcons. His background how it became a Fan Dave. You've talked about Jessie Tuggle. Being your all time favorite Julio Jones being your current active favorite player Who are your top three. I'm GonNa pin you down. It's gotta be just three. Who would be three falcons players that you would say are the ones that if you were going to get posters and put them on the wall of your bedroom as a teenager. Dave choke who those three guys and the teenage show. Well that's You know I had hair. I was feeling good about myself. You know. All my life was before me But I would say Julio Jones I would say Jessie Tuggle and I would say Michael Vick and again you know I. I will always respect that. Not everyone loves Michael Vick for the way the career ended there and you know some of the things that he admitted about His attention to detail. When he was with the Falcons but that guy was just amazingly electric and I did have posters of him and figurines of him all over My best friend when I was a teenager so to me he will always be one of those guys to just you know. It didn't pan out the way we wanted it to but there were some fantastic moments and he'll always be a favorite the I forget which version of Madden it was where he was. Basically a running cheat code in the game in four I've been playing madden woods. My best friend growing up was a bills fan of all things. So there's something in the water near us Madden Within Two thousand nine hundred ninety nine something like that. And the only time I've consistently beaten hemmed is when I had vic in two thousand four because that's just nothing you can do against him and I just toy with him. I'd run up and down the sideline and I miss that a lot. Yeah he and honestly video game you're supposed to have a player that is quote unquote that special but is on the field. It did it. Felt like he was really that guy you know. When he was at his peak he he couldn't be stopped. It just seemed like he wouldn't hit that peak every single game just following up on the VIC thing. If you were a Falcons Jim. You could go back in time. Would you still have the falcons draft him or do you think that the whole debacle of two thousand seven was enough? That you'd say avoid this player. What depends can I change history or does it have to play out exactly the way that we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA say plays out the same. Yeah it's still probably would take him You know I I mean what else am I gonNA? I'm not gonNA take drew brees. You know my feelings as as a human being in the year twenty twenty. I don't think I could go back and do that So you know it's something that might be to take Tomlinson And you know if I guess if I was hell bent on the Falcons win that decade. Maybe I would have but it would be hard to to say you know. Don't take Vick not only because people think I was crazy but Because again some of those spectacular moments supposed games on those close calls where they got so close to the Super Bowl They wouldn't have happened without him. They would be happening for someone else. And that's That's memories that you don't get back and I guess there's something to be said to for the fact that two thousand seven as horrible as it was did lead to the fact that the team was able to draft Matt Ryan and that worked out fine in the end so all right. We've talked about players and you mentioned. I think it's actually a great point. The Falcons really have been fortunate. In having a lot of top notch players come through organization like even right now in the midst of some down seasons going through we have two players who are arguably going to end up in Kenwood. Day Matt Ryan and Julio Jones I think you can make a strong case for both players. But the coaches I feel. Like the Falcons have had some colorful coaches through the years. Either Jerry Glanville pops into my head. Ju- Jones was an interesting one. But in your mind who is your all time. Favorite Falcons coach. It doesn't even necessarily have to because of wins losses in just the coach that you enjoyed watching on the sidelines. For the Falcons. I'll always be a real guy And you know. I think that there's a lot to be said for the success. The Falcons had under Mike Smith and I think you know however that ended to. He was a great coach. He was the perfect coach for them. You know especially from that two thousand eight to two thousand twelve block. He was what they needed but I firmly believe that reeves was great coach. And that you know had he maybe been able to stick things out a little bit longer than he did? You know blank used to fire coaches After you know a couple of setbacks and not a lot of setbacks but I think that he would have done better with vic then maybe more. I did coming after him. So and and the ninety eight season is always again so magical to me somebody. Who was you know? Thirteen fourteen years old when that happened that I got nothing but fun memories about pretty much. Everyone Eugene Robinson that year So he's so great but you know not a great thing So to me reeves. Is that guy? I think you know the periods of time that he kinda bridged over some of the work that he was able to do with the team. will always be special to me and you know again. I think a lot of Phantom. Is You know being the standard for what you had when you were younger. And and when things felt maybe different and special than you were dreading you know the next collapse in a way that you do when you're older and you understand how these things work better so That's probably not going to be making that list in something. Spectacular happens and she was. Let's hope it does Fares have some pretty strong takes about players. And you get to see a lot of them firsthand. Who is maybe in your mind? One of the most underrated falcons through the years. You've been covering the player. Maybe the fans are incessantly. Negative about that. You just don't understand why it would be easy to say Ryan because there is a vocal minority of the fan base That believes that he is the problem in. Obviously we run into those arguments fairly often. Have those arguments and sucker for them. you know most of the Fan Base? I think is if not a huge Ryan? Enthusiast certainly appreciative of visibilities. I think the guys that have tended to be underrated over the years Desmond true phone comes to mind that he's never been a truly elite quarterback for the Falcons but he's been a really good player for years and years And it it just the expectations for corners So I I WANNA say influenced by Dion Sanders. Almost because Dan. I think anybody who grew up with with watching dion expects these guys to be super flashy playmakers And what True Fund does a little bit quieter Little less flashy but again very good at it and I think the other player that I think is was an underrated forever was was Jonathan Batman and I will always be one of my favorite guys from that era and he was just such a a solid contributor every single year and again never or rarely made the big flashy plays but was always great. Always making an impact. That didn't show up. Necessarily you know in in sacks or anything like that so those guys were good to great players their entire careers. I don't know if true funds career and Atlanta's coming to an end soon It might be with his cap number but those guys come to mind as players really chronically have been underrated I think right. Let's flip the coin. So maybe player players that fans are raving about Or that they were pounding the table for and you look at them. You're like I just don't get it the one that comes to mind always and he's very good know. Don't get me wrong. But especially for that period of time when the Falcons were remaking their offensive line and not doing very good job of it in two thousand thirteen. Two Thousand Fourteen Harvey Doll was a guy that I used to drive me bananas how much people would would say you know. It was like he was the greatest guard of all time. We only had a guy like harvey doll. You know. Nobody here is as tough as harvey dollar and he didn't spend much time in Atlanta So I never really understood the extent to which fans like all in on Harvey Dog And you know I again. If if you're listening Harvey Doll you. Were a great player. I appreciate it but it's I just. It was one of those things where it's the total opposite of like the hatred with Ryan like it's just you can't quite get to where that person standing and giving you this opin Beyond that I mean it's you know I don't think there've been too many falcons that I would say have been overrated. This fan base More than many others. I think they get swept up in things just like anybody else. But they're very quick to come back down to earth on a player Maybe too far but I just don't re recall too many players. Nobody was out there saying like Roy. Bearman he guy you know I I I can't really think of anybody who's gotten that treatment and And hasn't deserved recently it. At least to me it feels like it's always in training camp. You know like who was at wide receiver years ago Amsterdam that everyone thought was going to be the next great in the NFL. Yeah Yeah I don't. I forgot about him. In Bernard Greedy and Bright Harvey. And Yeah I mean at some point you just get jaded because this guy has come through so many times and a lot of promise. It just can't make team ends up somewhere else. Hopefully does something but yeah that that prototype like six receiver out of camp is a strong strong nomination to we we could just put a generic like faceless head and say training Camp Receiver. Undoubtedly going to be overrated. Yeah like the Madden Create a player Roy. All right last few questions were up the saw. What is your in. Your is the most gratifying win. This team has had since you've been watching It's still it's still that nineteen ninety eight. Nfc Conference Championship game. I can't stress enough. How if felt going into that game you know. The Vikings were an unstoppable gender or not as good. As the Falcons were the vikings. Were fifteen in one thousand one. Yup and it's insane. I think let's talk is fourteen to the Vikings were fifteen one but that kind of match just doesn't happen very often in the NFL anymore. We have to utterly dominant teams in the same conference meeting up like that And so for the Falcons to pull that off especially like in the dramatic fashion. They did That that is still the most spectacular win to me Out of any that I've seen and I'll I'll treasure that one forever even begin to came after it was not so great So you know and then other strong contenders obviously be twenty sixteen. Nfc Conference Championship. Game was great and then I would nominate about half to three quarters of That two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen super bowl and then the trump the subject. I I feel like a lot of fans will probably gravitated two thousand sixteen because certainly the the win against the seahawks was pretty amazing and then I think there was a therapeutic sort of revenge element for the two thousand ten lost to Green Bay that the two thousand sixteen. Nfc Championship game felt like exercising. That demon But I I'm with you. I actually the nineteen ninety. Eight game was something special for fans who didn't get to see at the time the energy in that game especially. I don't remember anyone. Picking the Falcons like they were a massive underdogs even being fourteen into team and I remember people talking about them saying. Oh well you know. They're paper tiger they B A bunch of bad teams and Fourteen in two is of really tough record to get to in the NFL period. So that at I still. I'm with you. I feel that is one of the greatest. All Time wins but his range is On that note thinking about the it arguably one of the worst losses in franchise history How hard did twenty eight to three that two thousand sixteen Super Bowl hit you I mean zero a period of time where you were like a done with this. I can't cover this team the more Where you're numb to it at that point so you know maybe get an idea of what you were feeling in the aftermath of that loss. Well Yeah I was I I mean anyone. I don't think there was any reaction that Alkan Fan had right after that game. That was inappropriate Don't mind telling you that I cried after that game. I I was devastated. I was so sure and and do keep in mind too that you know. I live up here Surrounded by Patriots fans and that loss was so bad that I no one would even talk trashed and they didn't want it like I was like a leper. Nobody even wanted to talk to Because it was it. Was You know it sucked? They already had all these rings. They they knew that well. It was exciting for them. That it really sucked for me. And some patriots fans are not horrible so that's that's a take away but I think the thing that helped me in the immediate aftermath of that was that you know I think our entire staff was considering whether they want to quit. We're not to that game and I don't know if that's an exaggeration. And so you know what I tried to do. While everybody was weighing. That decision was was right as much as I could. And it was therapeutic. Even though you know certainly a lot of people on twitter on facebook and the comments like why are you writing about this but just keeping going? I guess and and just having something to do something to think about. That wasn't the immediate aftermath of that game was kind of what got me out of and And then long term. I think what what also helped me really was the saints fans running that into the ground so much You know a game. They weren't involved in turning it into like the stock response to everything that I've said That any of US said you know somehow that made it a little bit easier to because you knew it was coming so overplayed and you do get a little bit to it Over time but I'll tell you right now that you know I've never gone back and watched that entire game. I don't think I ever will. Yeah same here last question for you. What are your thoughts on the current Regina From you know all the all the way top Arthur blank down to even the assistant coaches and whether hopes for this season yeah. This is This is the most pessimistic. I've been about a falcons team a long time. I think You know I have probably fair reputation in the fan base for being Somebody who's easily swayed. I like to believe in the Falcons. They've had more good seasons and bad over the last decade Close to even and so you know I tend to talk myself into them in a way that. I don't think I'm going to be able to do this year. I feel really strongly that this was the year to make a big change You know it'd been two consecutive losing seasons Arthur blank had never in the past. Let that fly without changes. And you know knowing that the Falcons were going to be in kind of a transition phase here where they're going to have to let some good players go You know and I hoped they wouldn't do that with Austin Hooper. And devante Campbell. But it looks like probably both are gone on. And that you know there's just there's holes on the roster there's questions about the approach that the team came out so ridiculously flat a year ago and what was supposed to be must-win year. I kind of couldn't believe it when Blank decided to give them another chance. And I don't know you know where exactly that comes from. I think the public statements on all of that Never tell the full story you know. Why blank made the decision he made. How involved with Mckay was what Clinton did metron actually expected to do this year versus what they had to promise to do to keep those jobs. You know whatever it is you know. This team has just gotten to a point where it's hard to believe they're going to be able to take what's the core of the current team which. I do believe as talented and then look the current coaching staff and really radically transformed things. I I can talk myself into a ninety seven season without that much difficulty. If we have a good draft You know in front of us if if there's a good free agent period which less certain on but beyond that I just. I don't think that like playoffs are necessarily in in the cards. You know it was as much talent as the team has. There's way too. Many bad runs over time. Way Too many listless performances. And you know I. I don't think that necessarily sends the message to to bring back the architects of that team. And then say to. You know some of your your better or more productive players over the last several years like you know So it's really a pivotal off season and I'm GonNa try to set my expectations too. You know. This team has been good about thinking towards the future. They don't necessarily especially in the draft. Do things just to address this one little hole. They've opened out for themselves. So you know I'm GonNa keep my expectations muted I. I'm hoping for at least a winning season but I'm also hoping that whatever they do this off season to clear contracts to add new guys to draft Is With an eye on that future. Because I think there there's better years ahead And they may still be well. Not Ryan's here but you know they've got to make some hard decisions and they've got to do a better job of assembly nostra this year and not as confident as I'd like to do I think there's many fans in with that same mindset obviously going into this year. Dave thank you so much for setting aside time to let our listeners. Get to know a little bit more about you. Won't you tell our listeners where they can find you and What we've got going on. Yeah you can find me at the Alchoholic on twitter And on the site of course writing. They do right. Now we're wrapping up our best seasons ever series that we did which were pretty fun. I like seeing the votes on those even if they do skew a little bit more recent But then we're also you know. We're firmly into free agency in the draft and the CBA is holding things up. But we're GONNA have a lot of great draft contents for you guys Continue to keep the tracker up today to let you know who the Falcons showing interested and as soon as we hit March flurry of hopefully coming deal folks as always you can find our coverage atmosphere alchoholic dot com. We'll be back here on the foul. Call it podcast. Come weeks with more interviews update and future the standard run of the bill colleague Podcast with Dan? Thomas and as we get into the draft seasonal. Breeders readily exciting crossfire. Podcasts as we debate players that will look so for Dave show Alchoholic State Walker. Thank you guys tuning in. We'll talk next time.

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FLASHBACK: SPORTSTALK1240 (2011)

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FLASHBACK: SPORTSTALK1240 (2011)

"W. g. b. sports talk flashback. Welcome to sports radio. New york a network of new york sports talk shows heard on long island's am twelve forty w. gb checkout new york hockey with rob cohen new york baseball digest with mike silva sports. Talk live with frankie. This sports. the new york sports exchange with alec martinez was the starting nine with full. Reverend sports. twelve forty with mike carber. Listen every sunday night. Nine pm on long island's am twelve forty w. g. b. and be sure to check out all past shows online at sports radio. Ny dot com. Welcome everybody quartz radio special edition coming to you. Live from the studios up w. g. b. b. in freeport long island. Yes i added my own music in there. Today you're just going to have to deal with it mr cole. It's good to be here this evening. hosting a special edition of sports talk twelve forty on this the final day before halloween a holiday that i'm never too excited about. I don't know why. I think it's just for the kids but that's just me. I'm not going to rain on was parade. We got a great show this evening. We had a full lineup again. My name is adam kern coming to. You live w. g. b. being and with me and i'll bring him on a right about now is in my mind all time jet. Great strong safety victor green. How're you doing victory there. I'm here what's going on their excellent. I pumped up. I'm ready to go on a great show. Facial hope the fans out there listening. Yeah absolutely awesome. Yeah yeah we we definitely do. I'm excited about our first guest. We're going to get to him in just one. Second that being jessie tuggle. A lifer over there for the atlanta falcons It's just been a crazy day. Yesterday we got our first snow here. In new york it was disgusting. It was awful. I called victor. He had just come home from a round of golf. As i recall right. That's why we have to drop around sixty. Oh you poor guy. Graceful anyways We also we also add the privilege and this is gonna be all nfl today. It is going to be all football. But i cannot and will not forget to mention in all time. Great game that we got That i definitely had the privilege of watching week that being game six of the world series where the cardinals outed the texans with a solo shot in the eleventh in one of the most amazing. If not the most amazing baseball game. I have ever seen in my thirty years on earth. I don't know. did you see that game. Victor victor. they're right. I guess he's not well we we will get him back momentarily. it was. It was just an outstanding game coming from behind to runs on two separate occasions two times that they were down to their last strike. Before the texans won the world series and talk about a curse franchise years. They have not been able to do it off. Just an incredible. You gotta tip your cap to the cardinals and congratulate them. It is half time for the jets it is thereby week and you know so. I'm feeling refreshed. I have not. I've not been worried this week. And i've just watched the other teams play and it's and the g. men that they squeak by with a win over the dolphins so it was ugly but they got the win and a win is a win so we are going to let. Let's see if we could bring victor victoria. You back with us back man. I have some telephone no fault. That's okay that's okay. I just took the reins and And i'm and i'm back on football. I was talking baseball when when you left. But look the g. man they get it done. I feel good. I feel good as jeff van foreign three. It's not ugly. When is it ever pretty asked me. You know that's the real question but more on the jets later right now. I want to bring on jessie tuggle. He played in the nfl from nineteen eighty-seven two year. Two thousand five time pro bowl linebacker. Who recorded sixteen hundred and forty tackles twenty one sacks six picks why not in fourteen years as i said lifelong falcon with the humble nickname of the hammer. How's it going jesse and doing great guys doing well doing well. Victor you still there. Great man thanks for calling in doing alright as well no problem and he called me so we can share sounds faz. Some fast big reason as times. Well absolutely adam mentioned a call you to have a talk a little bit about that man. How'd you get the name to hammer. Give it to me about teammate or just nailing people and Now always known as a heavy hitter in a short linebacker always play great levies and that was never afraid to you not a hard hit to the table. When you're when you're young and you've been president and and your little bit short have back able to produce force man. So i just go out and nell people and they've got started calling me the hammer. The name just stuck to me. What jesse. What what do you think Is the biggest story. That's been developing so far. Like i said it's it's the falcons are actually on by week as well so it's a time of reflection at least for this jet fan. What what do you think is the biggest story. That's going on in the nfl this year so far in the league of man i dunno good to get the bike plan and feel early the biggest thing with the whole without and all that he knows his footballs been going on. I think the fans have been really enjoying it. Because i level play haven't missed the You know it's good to see a lot of young players particularly the quarterback cam newton and playing gilbert and In christian ponder autumn guys go coming leading and try to make a difference You know. And i guess when you look back at some of the things that have been in headlines big hit. I mean been a ton of hits that guy's thinking fined for it in a way you can tackle in ways you can't tackle things man lying back linebacker thing that bugs me the most anything like you really can't make a legit hard hit without getting penalized for it. Jesse you know you talked about that. Let's let's stay on the falcons for a little bit. They lost one of their key players in Lovie haley man talk about how devastating loss that coming down the stretch and the next hour happening season the thing development pay. They have a bye week. Try to You know the hill up a little bit you know. He's saying they injured with matt ryan last week and through the league i mean it changes. It changes the course that they play changes Where you You know how how you can put up points and everything else. You don't wanna lose anybody So this point just got to recover and find a way to get some less on the field and quite ambi productive. And i guess when you looking back at what could have happened. You know with matt ryan you know when you lose a guy with that type of caliber means my team. They're they're sitting a better solution now. That could have been so. I guess you gotta take No the good with the bad. And hopefully we can recover and go a little bit more healthier. Yeah what we're talking about the falcons and forgive me ahead of time. Jessie but i always viewed. And i still do. You're going to hate me for this. I see the falcons as a soft team. Don't get it done wrong. Why do i. Why do i think this then things that we problem solve when you have a one of the hardest running right back from the league. I do like michael. Turner run down. He'll love him yes it does. I really love that but still defensively. Maybe you know. Maybe they don't have a fabulous not say linebacker. Somebody like the team. Who whose name recognizable instantly but you know. He got some african football team. You know i think This past year you know they had six or seven new guys. Go to the pool to represented as far as athletics on a team that you know as a former falcon. I can't hardly kick out work as a team. It's not it's not one individual it. They have a lot of good individuals. It just it. It just seems like when it comes to the big spot. They don't get it done. You know agree to that thing when it comes really have to prove themselves when it comes to making clutch play the kucice aware of you know like if the time to make the put all time the makes up to happen particularly when you have a national audience like the old whether you in the playoff whether you plan on Monday night football. You got to go out there and show people right now. You can play and i think when they have that national audience right. They'll see what they can do and in the time that no no what the topic all about they always come up with louis shoe so from that standpoint. I see what you're saying. Okay just talk about stand on the fact that they they had a tough division. Nfc south new orleans at tampa to always played a really tough. You know carolina campus even though they two and six right now. Cam newton had really juvenile that franchise talk about what does allow need to do to put themselves at the top of that division throughout the season. you know the big thing you got the gotta do man. You got to win conference games. There's no doubt about it and the nfc south is Extremely strong In the business. And when you look at the new orleans thank you know. I've said that they're the team to beat. Drew brees is playing great. You know already lost today. It doesn't matter because he's having a great season. He still probably the most active quarterbacks in the league. Right now you and then you can turn right the tampa bay instantly looking at another young quarterback down there who's having awesome year. And you got the matt ryan and you got cam newton so the the business loaded at quarterback and particularly young quarterbacks and that thing right now you know with the saints no win the super bowl a few years ago that If you can come out of the south you can reference it. The nfc and And i think right now you handle their business focus obviously on winning but they can control this out come out of they win that division they gotta look so special in the playoff. Yeah that's a. that's a good point. I mean josh freeman. Mattie ice there and cam newton along with you know the cherry on top drew brees representing the scenes. That is scary division. Really i don't look at it enough because i'm always obsessed. Afc east but it really is a good business. I think the next superstar in the nfl the young talent. Big body strong You know he's a kid who can really go and anti franchise around. And i think he can make them for test for tampa bay in the future. Yeah and one quick question about Tampa i'll let you go in a second Victor how how is it. That every time the falcons play the box. It's it's an epic game always it. Is it correct. i'm wrong. how does this happen no matter if they're good or bad either team they always play. You know about you know being in the south right next door neighbors. You know florida and georgia and And and something about That that robbo. There somehow brewed up over periods of us and not only that with the buccaneers. With the also that with the falcons in the state It's something years when i played It was just unbelievable that no matter what was winning losing or winning and losing records the game itself was a physical heart news. You know it reminds you of college raba type game and i think that's what's happening right now with the falcons and also the buccaneers got that ravel thing down and And everybody's trying to control the division to just before we like let you go. I want to ask you know fan know about you a little bit. You know using duck into the college hall of fame. You want the super bowl. You went to the super bowl. Thirty three jersey retired and ring of on all pro pro bowl one. What are some of the things you take away at some job biggest accomplishment in the nfl or your the that question because Know first of all it was on ener privileged to play in the nfl. I played for fourteen years when people told me that i couldn't play too small complement small school winds five approval. You know went into the cost of ball hall of fame and majority up handcuffing ringo on it georgia. It means a lot to me personally. Because i felt like i struggled and had to work hard until people could possibly play You know not only have so much respect for then the city who know for recognized as one of the favorite of all time and and the thing that taught my career off at. I can appreciate through hard work whether in my in my twelve season. Going to super bowl taking the franchise. I people both thirty three win. Thing had opportunity opportunities going down to miami a play. Their biggest win win. The nfc championship beat minnesota. When they had an most prolific office new could ever stop or we go up here place and beat them. I think the biggest game in my career and you know it just been great. You know my hometown boy that growing up right here in in greece and georgia state down in south georgia and white have plan for the atlanta falcons in georgia so Just been a great career for me and Have no for the game. I have respect for the city and I'm a diehard falcons fan. To the is and i know you got some up north and i know you play with the jets. Nothing great gaming the jets and all that too and But at the same time. I have respect for the nfl in general also on a on a personal note. I know you have their two kids in college One playing football. If i'm not mistaken justin right. That's an actually. He started out at the with the blend you bring college down in texas. What cam newton cam from jane college. He's they kansas state So he's there okay. No he's a. He's a quarterback there. And and my daughter is a tennis player ed prostate so wife and i got two in college man to athletes and their kids. And we're proud of him and compensates so Down everybody says truth. Don't fall for the though proof for that. So that's pretty cool man to athletes and very nice and one last quick head i. I saw an interview by one victim. Green he asked if you wanted to coach professionally and you really. You turned it down pretty quickly and he said you know and your answer was great really that you value your time and your family and your community too much and i would imagine. I would do the same thing if i was in your position but what. What do you make of. The players going right into coaching after after playing for a whole career. Is it just like an obsession that that won't let go or is it just different strokes for different fields among different strokes impose. But it's a you know personally for me. In the autumn years practicing watching t. Playing games worked in out doing the whole nine yards a lot of you know dedication and a lot of time a lot of effort so when i retired from the league. I know that. I went to the coach and you would take ten to twelve hours of my day. You know. prepare myself and being the best as i possibly can be as a code. Because they'll we put it in time. There's no doubt about it and big contest at that In that with me. What had young kids and i'd like you know what my time you know. I i did have my time and now top me turn my attention to make it so it was a perky time wheels in middle school and junior high and i got the opportunity to watch and galway through high school. And they're right there with them the whole time so now my wife and now we're empty nesters and yet at this point in my career As far as coaching. I'm like you know like my free time too much. Because i like playing golf in guys like victor green motivation. Good thank thank you so much for coming on jessie. I really appreciate it eight. Both you guys All right we'll remember it for this. Ask asked a picture pretty good. Call you dream of one day owning your own home. American bank is helping people turn their dreams into reality for fast approvals low interest rates and a chance to work with a real mortgage banker. Please ask us about our lender paid closing cost loan or how you can save money. Monthly your current mortgage for more information. Please call eight five. Five forty-seven loans here in american bank. Customer service is our only priority american bank bankers with vision helping people with dreams. 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So make sure to tune into that with paul revlon and mike carver respectively at nine o'clock and ten o'clock this evening on the station. That serves your community w. g. b. b. freeport all right moving right along with my co host this evening former jet great strong safety down there in atlanta victor green. How's it going. They're great yadda. Oh good you're still with me. Thank god you're all right moving right along to the other side of town well across the country a little bit too a former viking. Great i can't repeat that word enough. chris doleman who played for the vikings for most of his career as a linebacker to defensive. End eight time eight time pro bowler with career. This is a ridiculous number one hundred fifty and a third sacks he had he racked up twenty one of those sacks in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine under the vikings newly formed newfangled four. Three defense had two touchdowns two safeties and probably saved a litter of kittens from trees somewhere. Chris how's it going. Are you today. i'm doing well. I'm doing well. Victor victor okay. Everybody's squared away. Let me ask the question that cannot be avoided as as most year career playing on the vikings. What in god's name is going on with minnesota this year did you did. You are a positive man absolutely. Should i mentioned that is your second win of the season. Yes okay just making sure. Because i gotta keep it real because this is a new york station here. I'm i think minnesota right now. Transition period. i really thought i still believe it or not. A big nascar as a lot of football left than No christian ponder and coming Guys who was You know chomping at the bit to get out there. And so what he can do You know it's it's we have wasted a lot of time. I mean this team very easily could have been Well there every game that they lost pretty much most of the time that they were leading at halftime finishing out the game Closed the games out Is very disappointing. You know obviously team but you gotta look at everybody's involved include coaches players and everybody else to in six chris right now. Do you feel minnesota half what it takes to to to still make a play office right now. You know what. I don't think that they'll make the playoffs What they can do is play for pride Get ready for next year. I mean this was a strange year overall with the strike and everything going on Nobody being able to work out Get to know What's going on as far as Players chemistry but You know everybody worked under the same rules. That's no excuse. Minnesota's should be a better football team. That what they are right now. Donovan mcnabb you. Still think he has more seriously. You really do i live. Watch the practice Okay alive. I don't know what's in his heart still wise he's the type of guy they can I think still play A good ball people's round fairly well You know twenty one twenty two years old absolutely not but you know he's he understands the game and if he starts I was thinking it'd be start realizing and start playing more of a mental cerebral game versus. You know that physical game to run the ball. Do this here. you can't answer to everybody. You have to play your game and thinking if he can get in and start playing his game i picked. They'll be great. I i would agree with you. But i would. I would also say that about every season that he's played in the nfl. Probably could i mean you know you're also forgetting that Here's a guy who took philadelphia to the nfc championship game. They did not have skills that Minnesota has you know in a person harmon and that means the big game changers. Today's peterson you know they have back like that Who knows what would have happened if that had adrian. Peterson may be now the sudden. You're planning five super bowl. Yeah but he didn't win being who plays in the super bowl. Somebody's gonna lose will agree to disagree on that. Victor gut was talking to the minnesota back of their minds fit as she was talking to a couple of weeks ago well i think the mindset was pretty much that well first of all you got to go back and you gotta look at the The cba i think with you know they won. The war lost that battle. You know they got everything pretty much. Ask for but you and custer south where the you cannot go out and do football maneuvers. Because you can't be in past once a year or times of season You can't feel the film no longer than this amount of time. These rules are great but it really it really handcuffs. The team is trying to get better and minnesotan can really benefit from that extra time You not watch them practice. And i totally said look like a glorified walk through. I mean their whole day like a walk through. There was no difference between a walk through and what they were doing. You know. I suppose in live practice no tackling. If you look across the board and the league tackling horrendous You look at the game is pretty much manifest itself into a big arena football league. You know where you got. Seven on seven receivers running all over the place here throwing the ball all over the place and i don't think that's you know pure fans someone like myself. I wanted to seek good defense. I want to see good rubbing schemes. I wanted to see the football. That i grew up playing educated. I want to congratulate you from an Placed in a ring of honor up. What was a cop. How would you feel in you know when you when you was out there in that your senior jersey in the ring a lot of well you know you feel good. Obviously but i mean it's just It was it was cold. it was something that i know my kids really enjoy I enjoy being a part of it and it was. It was something that you know that We'll never thanks. What do you. What do you think of And we'll we'll get back to your career in just a minute. What what do you think because christian ponder got his first. Nfl win as a starter today. And i know you think donovan has the skills and whatnot but do you think that christian ponder is going to be the future quarterback of minnesota absolutely. He has to be. This is this is where they put their Their eggs from you know left. They were able to come up with somebody else You know. I think this is probably. Would you know no uncertain terms that might be documents last year You know if you're if you're looking at christian ponder and you're trying to get your team better So i just think that you know you have to take it the way for what it is christian. Has he played well. The last two games. I thought he played streaming. Well yeah what. What are his arm as. It has head as it his legs. What what what. What would you single out. As what's going to make him a winner in the league. I think the thing that separates christian ponder From the rest of the young quarterbacks. I think he doesn't do everything. Great things without He's he's pretty sharp about how to football. Definitely need also himself in a position to getting that often Bake some great play against green bay last week and he he hung in the french leg bound brown Plays alive and that's what you need really to to take. You know to help your team win. I mean with. Adrian peterson right harvard. Those kind of guys. You gotta make it happen now. You know with sankoh you know great tight end. You gotta make it happen now. You can't wait to the twelve hour and say oh only we had this piece here. And i don't know why minnesota quarterback who's been hardest position for them. Oh just like green bay. Just i had to do that. I'm sorry chris. Talk about this No you got into the business world. Chris doleman for auction. Talk a bit about what that is. Got you chris We're having a little difficulty with the phone there. Thank you might still be on the line. But it's cutting in and out victor How's it going victor. We'll we'll yeah. We'll get him back in a minute. What what. I'm figuring if you're asking that question you know something about what he's doing business wise what what is he doing you know. He got this pro. That won't even explain it to the to the fans their unique Thing that he's doing where you can got this site where you can auction. And he'd go to these charities you know they're having auctions or have a charitable event and he put their charitable things on his officer on this site the optional. For the you know you do it for five days prior to The the What the what. The charitable the cherry offs. And don't say off. They put it back on his auction and people continue to be on the net can get rid of it. The a charitable interesting interesting an entrepreneur. Well we're gonna we're gonna try to get an well. What i ask you a question and while i try. Get him back on the airwaves for for the last few minutes of the interview. I'm going to move it onto the all right. Give me one minute on what you predict. The jets will end the season with. Because i got bring the jet somehow whether jazzman right now Four and three. You know ten and six. I think they're gonna do enough to get them in the playoffs. And i think that tennis six you know you know. I think buffalo's going going go. Slides somehow not even know these five and two still got to play the pages pig out of pleaded jets twice and so i really think it's about being in that division. Just find a way to go. Tonight did not agree with you more. I really think they're going to eke in and what. Why should a jet fan be shocked that they seem to always do that. But whatever it we got chris back so chris. Victor was asking you about your company nowadays. What's and fans a little bit about. What your christova pro auction is. of course. Pro oxidant is a Online auction site. We helped nonprofits and charities to through their silent auction raise money and we put those things in line for them. We do a complete Pr campaign There's no Charges that we have for that We only You know we only get paid if we south and we wanted it that way we wanted to take the take the responsibility of making sure that we Do our job and give you the best outcome possible to to get You know to sell your items and make as much as you can for your charity curse. I'll be remiss if i don't bring up You know hall of fame. You know he was a finalist last year at a hundred and fifty third sack. You know third all time you know. You put a lot of thought into that in. Hopefully i mean. Obviously your name will be called. But how much time do you put into that the whole thing you can't i mean My whole thing is is that you know whenever they make that decision to make that decision. I don't worry about it. i You know first of all. I do appreciate appreciate the kind words victor. But you know that's beyond my control and to be able to To be able to go out and play at a level that is deserving that you know i feel this an honor within itself You know. I've done my thing. It is it is up for it is up to the bodies That are in that. Are that had that control to you. Know make the right decisions to figure out you know who they want to let him who they who they dealt. I mean if you're not gonna use numbers why even cable You know why. Why even track all this stuff is pretty much a waste of time. If you're just looking for super bowl winners those types of things But you know. I can't I can't worry about that. I just you know what's important to me is you know is You know the auction site You know crystalline pro auction. It is my family You know got probably one of the highest recognition. You can get through the vikings You know being inducted their ring of honor You know in fifty years. There's only been fifteen players. And you're talking about like alan page and fran tarkenton. So if i'm good enough to be in their company you know. I'm i'm happy very good answer. Because what else can you do at this point. There's no no point worrying about what you can't do anymore. I just have one quick question before we go. Why aren't the packers going to win. The super bowl this year. But you know right now. They're they're they're on a gravy train with biscuit wills. Everything's if you look at them. They haven't been they're they're they're winning by You know great numbers They're performing well. Aaron rodgers playing. Well and you know. I think that there's some point in time you're in that group in that Run you have to get what you call a reality. Check reset In a sense where that okay. Winning is contagious. But there's also a lot of bad things that come with winning arrogance cockiness Like i don't worry about we'll be taking care of down by you. Know fourteen in two minutes left going door by. We got this covered. I mean you know you let some little team like minnesota took him to the wall and they were clearly a better team than minnesota. But you know adrian peterson. Russ with two hundred and seventy five yards me. I mean you know you can't sit up there and play like that and think that you're gonna beat everybody and this is kind of that guy in vegas wanna roll and eventually that rolls stops. And now what do you do how do you. How do you reset from that. And that is the question that the minnesota minnesota i mean. I'm sorry green bay is going right answer huh interesting. You have any Last last questions victim. Last question for me chris talk about. Are you surprised way. Can new research rejuvenated carolina. Panthers will you know. Let's player coming out of the draft By far and cam. Newton brings a specific skill set to the carolina panthers Think ron rivera You know who i know and played against. Chicago did an excellent job. Their staff did an excellent job. Saying you know what we're going to bet the farm. Let's bet it on somebody that we know they can give us Running ability and throwing ability and he throws a a wonderful ball Standup guy in the community You know he can also make plays with his legs. You need today. you really do because if you're Running game back out. You know you have to start slinging the ball around. Will you might want to have a quarterback can also run as well as he can throw it and i think you know Cam does it. That's what we're talking about. Christian ponder kristen does a lot of wonderful things he has to learn how to play this level. But i mean he runs. Well throw the ball. Well he manages the game well but you know is. It's not one thing or another and i i think cam news also the same type of player. I mean you know coming back winning the game you know leaving. Let your big players win the game for you you know. Let your jared allen's and your adrian peterson those kind of guys come up with the plays that help you win just a loser for anybody and i think cam does that very very well. Super bowl prediction go. Well i mean who's in who wins it. I tell you what Jets go ahead. i don't have to laugh at the jets. Come on you know. Here's my thing with the jets take. Let's hear your on the The real reebus i mean. He's a secondary in the national football league. I think what ended up happening. Is that you make. Everybody wants to go out and play their super bowl game. Their best game against the jets and Thanks to the coach. You know who's doing all that talking and creating all this animosity You know throughout the opponents locker room it gets old man and these guys are like you know we can lose every game. He's wayne losing these clouds you know. And that's just how they see it and like you know every year we're going to win it this year. I guaranteed it. Wa- i mean come on. It's been three or four years and you haven't sniffed it. And i'm not saying he's you know he's not a good coast but that kind of arrogance really creates a lot of Animosity a lot of tension and undue pressure. Not only your team but it is a great motivator for the your opponent super bowl conviction. Or you got yeah with with that said out with that said i would say I like the steelers and From the afc just beat The patch today. Yeah and i like. I like those guys and i would have to say in the nfc right now in the ones really i will. I'm gonna go out and limit. I'm gonna say Well i'll just say green bay and the reason why i'm saying bay right now. They're playing really well. But you know what you know anybody can beat anybody. You're looking at You look at how chicago hanging around you look into orleans. Warlords losing today. Yeah i know. I believe you got philly. You know they can. They can and does giants. Who knows you who knows a lot takes you know just takes you know the right place. At the right time. I think there's more parody in the In the nfc there's a lot of Pretenders very many all right. Well last question who wins the packers or the steelers. The packers are the steelers feel. Sounds familiar so they'll get it this year. Well chris thank you so much for for coming on. We really appreciate it. Hope to have you back soon. Okay right you got you. Make sure you guys sick out chris. Doleman pro option dot com. 'cause no problem all right all right. Thank you victor. And let's bring on our last guest this evening. He is the kicker for the atlantic falcons who has just broken an all time record for the atlanta falcons. Knocking in is twenty seven. Th street field goal at the last miss- of his was in the second quarter of two thousand and ten season opener which is just unbelievable. He being matt bryant. Has it going good joining the lie. Week comfortably. Our other than i can't figure out how to turn on my My projector my rainbow. Pretty good this is a high class. Problem indeed only could have such woes. Hey matt how're you doing madison victory with you. Yeah i'm good. How are you doing here. let's start off talking about you. know that. Went against detroit man. How big a win was that guys leading into this by which has huge. I mean you know the difference. Obviously that game was a difference of being over five hundred or being below. Five hundred going through our bali and also to Was it the. Nfc a c team. We needed to get that win because they call for losses. Nfc teams so. That doesn't if it ever gets down the road only top breakers. We go. you know that doesn't help you. Well let me ask a very very important question as well of course last week october. Twenty third in tampa bay is matt bryant day. So how did you. How did you and your family. Celebrate matt bryant. It'd be honest with you africa. You forgot about your own day Guess maybe I had to celebrate break in the atlanta franchise workers. Then there. you go way. We celebrated to feel great right. Thank you there. Yes that of course because the mayor declared it matt. Brian get the day after you were on the bucks at that time right when you kick the sixty two yard field goal to end the game against shoot. Wow yeah so. That's that's kind of cool. Have your own day that you could even forget about that. He hasn't got a plaque that they gave me kind of You know to show stuff. So i sit every day and think i'll i'll need. Experience was the part of that day. That's that was to the second time you actually kicked a sixty two yard or wanting to be filled out your Philadelphia eagles last back as you know. Is that one of your biggest accomplishment. You fill in the legal. Your biggest highlight say Yeah i i would say so. I mean as far as I mean that's the one thing that most people remember It's sixty two yarder. I know i know the The guys that silly. Remember that 'cause Whenever i came to atlanta and we played them in two thousand nine for the game you could see her by telling you. Hey that's the guy that keeps sixty two yard so the yeah yeah. It was good accomplishment. What what's going on with the team this year. The atlanta falcons. I haven't been able to watch. I've watched maybe a whole half of one of their games. This season but matt ryan seems to be on and off mattie ice cold warm lukewarm. Ninety eight picks three fumbles. What what's going on with the team. What's your feel with the team as it gelled together yet this year. What will you know what this I mean i think this detroit game Was a good game for all of us. I think You know we've played a good complete game. I believe it. I mean i can't i can't remember his ex that i'll know i'll know. How many picks mad or whatever scenario. I mean it was a good game. It was a total team effort and against a very good team. I mean those guys were five one whenever we were playing them and then some good teams. You know that that needs to be. Everybody needs to look in the mirror and look at the guy next homes and say you know what that's what we can do. That's what we expect of each other and that's what we expect of the guy next. I think if we do that we're going to be you know we're going to be pretty good going down to the the last half of the season. How much confidence after his body. Week that you guys play into annapolis but you gotta new orleans right out but that you you feel that any game i mean i know all games is huge but how big is in the game coming out his by. We got to get rid of put new orleans divisional game. I mean i know. It's kind of cliche but i mean that's just how this league is. I mean that's the most important game because it's the next day You know you can't you can't be five and three unless you win that game and You know that's the that's the only thing that we're focused on. The only thing that we're going to be concerned about is going to indian playing those guys and that next week will play new orleans wall. We'll worry about that when it gets the right now. The bus before thing is to go to indian and befallen three. Have you ever seen such a collapse like that. I mean one player essentially is injured on indianapolis calls and that team is. I mean i think. I think you could put high school teams against them now. I've never. I've never seen something like that. Have you no. I haven't seen anything like that and i was just front of mine. Were watching tv and it was like you know the question. The question is i mean is is one guy really that i mean it. C- really much difference. It's i mean it's a hard concept to grasp You know you can do this and the bus and all that stuff but Now i've never seen anything like i wasn't expecting those guys the Seven i guess now another loss today. So you've you've been playing of about seventeen you you know you walk all over fighting for You know coming out in to do you feel now that you find your whole maybe doing so. Well breaking records petted. You feel now now is where you lay your head if you will you know what i it's i go into. Every week i go to every week approaching it. Is you know do good today. So they'll let you come back tomorrow. i you know i it's hard you know. There's there's some aspects of this business like you know Just it's it's hard to explain. I mean i i. I never would have thought that i would've left tampa bay. Uh i just finished up with How many franchise records. I got there and then You know then to to get remove as part of the purge of and they system. But i mean the i like you hear the like the organization Mister blank is. He's one of the better owners He does things right. And you know Coach myth and and all the rest of our coaches in front office images. It seems really good here You know. I hope to fish here. I just signed a four-year deal with these guys so you know a box Shot that deal and hopefully stay around play a few more but you know my my protei tweak is too good today so they'll let you come back tomorrow. I i always asked this question with with kickers. What because it's such a weird game football really. I mean just coming from the name of it itself football when you know. It's only kicked every once in a while and in the biggest situations to what happens to does time slowdown when you have to make these big cakes or what happens the time or you're focused. Do you see things normally do hear things. What what does that like when you cross that silent at least for me It only go back to some years back that that show the twilight zone. It almost feels like that. When you i mean you can be in a stadium. Seventy thousand people going nuts and you know whenever you cross that white. Lie at least for myself tom. Same stop save. Slow down a little bit Now i mean you feel the heartbeat. Go up a little bit. Yeah 'cause it's You know you're out there and go up there and you know make this kick but you find out figure out you know little things too little tricks of the trade to to make make that heart rate slowed down to make everything you know slow down and just solely focus on one or two things and and rely on you know doing it in outcome being positive says matt before we let you go man. We gotta talk about your melissa star. Nydia matt through to try some found eight nine foundation. Talk a little bit about what that ask. Sids foundations all about man. Democratice talk about that wide. You guys up. Yeah well. I mean Coming into the league Wanted to be a part of something And what's whenever. I got the tampa Had some route showdown so Only have i signed. He was born premature. And it just seemed like the easy fit was to get the march of dimes and And all that. They do premature baby so we put our names down. We've been apart down for the last i guess seven years now and Then after our our second son He pass them sits at three months so we started foundation his name. Matthew trice brought foundation and And everything's pretty much geared towards You know helping out. Babies george march which got down with event here in atlanta Friday night but Yeah that's that's the main thing is just trying to do what we can to To give kids get babies That chance that maybe they didn't have that didn't look too good. The beginning did you. Did your wife. Melissa just gave birth to twins to that we did yeah They are two months now two months. Congratulations yeah thank you yeah. That's that's been. My colleague is Israel being home to help her a little bit more this week. I'll i'll bet. I'll bet a lot of more involved. Well thank you very much for coming on really appreciate an really wish. You luck the rest of the way and partially for selfish purposes. You know i have the atlanta falcons versus the new york jets in the super bowl. So i wanna see you there. And i want time to speed up when you go out to make the game winning. Kick so the jetstar hope. I hope your prediction is right that the stockings are in the super bowl. That would be lovely right. Thanks again. I really appreciate it very much. A thanks for having me right. Okay that mad. Bryant well victor. We've come to the end of it. I you know. I think it was a good job. How do you feel you feel good. Hey three quality guys on So i think i thought it went really well. Yeah absolutely we had fun so we do this again. 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Hour 2: Is Arrowhead cursed?

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Hour 2: Is Arrowhead cursed?

"That's right in Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty I want to give a warning out to chiefs fans who are listening. We are about to play a montage of chiefs playoff disasters from the last twenty five years at Arrowhead stadium. So grab a loved one support dog if nothing else perhaps a teddy bear, you may need it. We're going to talk to a medium that was sent to Eyraud head stadium to find out if the place is in fact cursed or if they can get past their playoff heartbreaks this weekend. And so I need to set that up by playing for you a few examples of the terrible things that have struck. The chiefs at Arrowhead the kick is up. It looked why the left Pitt looked why tenth wide left going. AM update. Or something. From. Against the Steelers on the road in Kansas City, which left. He. He was married to grow it. He caught it. Protect. Titans. One. Who as painful for me, and I'm not a chief's fan. Ten seventy the fan. NBC sports one of four five zone all contributing to that those were some playoff losses to the colts. Broncos Steelers and titans. Let's go to the shell Pennzoil performance line where the heartland medium Vicky Millard joins us. She's a psychic medium and a paranormal investigator into Pika Kansas and the guys from Eyraud head guys dot com decided to call her up and see if she could take a stadium tour with her psychic team and figure out what's going on at Arrowhead. So Vicki let's start with the basics. Are you a sports fan of you done? This a lot for sports teams know, this actually was the first time that I've ever done anything sports related. And when they contacted me I was like, well, this is sounds really exciting to be able to tour the stadium and just kinda see you know, what's going on over there. And I had heard. Just you know, a few times people saying that they thought that there was a curse or something on the stadium. So I was I was excited to try to see if I could figure out what was going on. So Vicki when you first walk into the stadium. Give me that moment there, you get like some sort of a sense of good or bad when you first walk in. Well, you know, and we pulled up in the parking lot and got out and we were walking up towards the the stadium. I got this gut feeling and it's like my stomach gets kind of a little upset. And so I know at that point that there is something going on, and then I'm in the right place. And so after that happened, then we made our way inside and and into the the pro shop there and nothing much, you know, going on in there. And so then we headed we headed out for the tour and one of the one of the first things that we came up on was an area. Of the lower concourse that. I just felt really uncomfortable. So that was the first uncomfortable nece that I had I felt like, you know, I just felt it almost like an earthquake. It just something was shaking that awkward an awkward feeling that I get is usually when someone's past in the area. So that was kind of one of the first things that that happened. And as I was mentioning to Gary what I was feeling, and I said, do you understand why would feel that way? And he said, yes. So, you know, and then then we discontinued on we're talking to Vickie Millard, a psychic medium who went to aero head stadium to find out if the chiefs are cursed from the beyond tell me about the man in the suit that you felt the presence of okay? So we worked our way to one of the sweets, and I'd never. Been in a suite before. So I worked my way down to the the seating area. And as I looked across the stadium. I saw a man and he had a suit dressed very nicely. And I could tell that the suit and the entire that. He wore was looked like, and I do this on my investigations all the time. I try to figure out what era you know, from in looked like maybe late sixties early seventies suit. And I and when I say I saw him I didn't look clear across the field and actually see him. I get the images in my in my mind, and and I can feel where the energy is coming from. So it was across the field. But I got the images and I saw him. So clearly, and as I did that I was like, you know, I need to find out who this man is. So that's where we kind of you know, started and we find out later, and you realize later with the help of the gosh. Murrow had stadium dot com or had guys dot com that it's Hank strand former Super Bowl winning coach who was fired and seventy four many chiefs fans objected to his firing and some claim he still has a grudge against the franchise. And the franchise is founder Lamar hunt over his termination. So I guess the question is what can be done Vicky. If if Hank is still hanging around is that a good thing does he just want to watch the game or is sticking around to curse him. Will. You know, it how I figured out. It was him. As is. I recognize them in the wall of pictures that they had there, and then I pointed him out and the the Arrowhead guide. They knew exactly who he would. I had no clue who he was even when they said his name. I still had no clue who that was. But I when we headed down to the field, you could feel that there was lower name. Negative vibrational energy. And it just it was layers and layers and layers and how that happens is. I mean, anytime you get anything negative going on whether to be in that house or business or whatever it might be you just get this lower negative Br vibrational energy, and can you imagine how much negative energy could compiled up there? I mean, you've got players, you know, practically feeling each other. You got coaches Yonne players. You've got you've got people yelling at the the officials and you've got the fans from both teams whoever wins. The other fans are are mad. So you've just got all this negative energy built up in there, and I trained in bio energy healing, which is a way to move energy. Whether it be in the physical body or around the physical body or whether it be, you know, in a in a certain location. And my nine year old grandson, he has been training with me, and he's pretty much become a pretty good medium himself, and he also can move energy. So discreetly him and I did some energy moving while we were down on the field. And you know, Hank we keep seeing Hank. But I don't think that you know, I he may still I just feel like he had some unfinished business like gosh. You know? I just feel like he is ready to say, okay. You know, I'm a chief through and through. And I'm ready for you know, the chiefs to to go all the way again, I think he's I think he's finally decided it's okay. And I wanna make sure that my goodness if his family, here's this or someone hears this that saying that Hank is like stuck here. Absolutely. Not. He's in great place. He can come and go. And so I just wanna make sure that they know that he's in a great place, and he has the best seat in the house. So, but we did move the negative energy after we did that the place to seem to light lighten up. And and Gary came over to me and said, did you like bless blesses place or something? And I was like why do you say that? And he just said, I can just feel it. It's different to the air. Isn't as heavy, you know, and it was like almost like the sun came out, and it hadn't changed, but it just brightened up in there. And you know, as we walked back into the locker room, you know, it just it just felt so different. So I'm hoping you know, alleviating some of that that heavy energy will will certainly help. I'm a little bit nervous that maybe the first couple of passes might be a little long because it's not going to be so. In their interesting. I don't know. Maybe maybe somebody should let Patrick no. But that's gonna be that's gonna be tough because Patrick Mahomes is already so. The energy isn't thick for him. So right. But but you know, what? I mean, it's just an I really see once he fig figures out what the energy and everything is like going on. He is going to have some spectacular passes. I mean there it's going to be beautiful. The chiefs managed to exercise some of the demons and the energy is better. You guys all will. Remember that? Vicky Millard the heartland media is the one to thank we'll Vicky and her grandson twos. Can find her bring her to your next family function? If you need to clear the energy there. We know take your to your office. If you hate your boss, you'll figure it out. Thank you. Thank you, you know, but it's really in the chiefs hands. Now, you know, I get all I and and I can't go out there and play the game forum. So they've got they've gotta be on. They've got to be on Saturday. But she did her best. Right. Thank you so much Vicky. Thank you. Vicki. Appreciate it the heartland medium, Vicky Millard. We'll we'll tell you a little more about this. And some news coming from another NFL team looking for a head coach coming up next. All right. Chiefs fans, you heard it here first from the heartland media. Do you believe that the energy at Arrowhead has been cleared? And also are you now terrified that Patrick Mahomes passes will fly clear out of the stadium and into neighboring city. I like that angle that she had the energy so clear now it's not so not so weighted down that they're going to be overthrowing some guys early on in this in this game. It's made in bits on ESPN radio the espionage app and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz we are presented by progressive insurance. And if you missed it, we just talked to the heartland medium who was hired by Arrowhead guys dot com to go to Arrowhead stadium and try to figure out if the stadium itself is filled with that energy, and is the result of their many losses. One of the guys from head guys got com is a professor. Does a lot of statistics. And he calculated it as a point two three percent chance that the chiefs would lose all of the playoff games at home that they have uh. So there's clearly something that they're trying to get to the bottom of. And according to our gal, the heartland medium, not only did she come into contact with the former Super Bowl winning coach. That was fired that many believe has a grudge against the franchise. She also talked about a section of the stadium that was calling to her that something was going on there. And it was the same area where a man was killed during a nineteen seventy-two crane collapsed during construction of the stadium, and she also was a recognizing grabbing her leg saying something was wrong with her leg and the gentleman. She was with from Arrowhead stadium dot com had lost his leg shortly before he died, and they were in the section of his seats that he took him to Jason do you believe all the chilling facts that are coming through because of the Hartland mediums tale. Kinda want to like I've really do like I'm all in for this. I I want this to be true. You know, maybe I don't know. But again, I don't believe in in like big curses or anything like that. So like, I is it possible that maybe she helped. But also the chiefs are still gonna lose. Sorry, guys. I mean, it is it is possible. I mean, she did cover her basis though. She did say listen, I'm not gonna win the game. I'm not suiting up out there. All I can tell you is that I don't think anyone's holding a grudge anymore and some of the some of the bad energy is cleared. It's still up to them to get it done. Right. And that's that's gonna be the ultimate like part of it. I mean, this is all funny. And if you can lift a curse, I mean, come on for all those years with the cubs. Like, you try anything right to at least. They did they actually had a priest. Come and bless the dugout, and I'll tell you it didn't work that year. Most of us. Most of us were like, really, we're really doing this. We're really, you know, we're really believing in the quote unquote curse to the point where we have religious figures bringing. You know, special water cleanse it on. That is sort of a hysterical thought like that, you know, of all the things we're gonna fix in the world what we're going to use our medium power of prayer specialists. Our we have special powers, we're going to fix this. But we're not gonna fix hunger. We're not gonna fix more. But we are going to face this whole World Series thing. We gotcha. Yeah. It's been a big deal. The heartland medium told the guys when they asked, you know, full full on is is the aero Ed stadium curse. She said not anymore. I don't know that it ever was. But it certainly isn't now and she did say if you can chiefs fans just express a little gratitude towards the old coach Hank Straem, his spirit would enjoy it and a little positive push positive energy can't hurt. I'm usually not a believer. In these things. I told the story maybe like a year and a half ago. My friends got a psychic. And I was really annoyed that I had to chip in. And I thought it was dumb. And I still don't know if people have these abilities. But this lady freak me out. She knew stuff about all of us. And it was weird. And she wasn't like trying to speak the future. She was just explaining a lot of stuff, and it made me a lot less cynical than I used to be. I can't speak for whether the heartland medium actually encountered the old coach of the chiefs. But you know, if I'm a chief San why not why not send some love to goal. Trams side note, can you go and send me your friends number. So we can start talking raiders. I mean, I'll take all these things you need to start now to all. Here's a look, but part of the point of all of this forever. You know, it it sort of I it's an example of how difficult this era has been for the chiefs, and it's not just this year. I mean, we go all the way back. I remember when I was a kid watching Joe Montana and the chiefs get home field advantage. And you thought man with Joe Montana and home field advantage. They're going to be just fine. Didn't work out that way. I mean, it was it's the length of time that the chiefs have been a great or good football team that had been in the conversation and of just found a way to knock get it done. And like we said earlier, Sarah like part, pardon me looks at it and says, hey that could happen again this year and is hard as this is for fans to hear it could be nobody's fault. Like the colts. Are that good right now? I think the culture playing great great football. And in. I'm looking at the colts say, and I wouldn't I don't think it'd be a huge upset if they beat the chiefs, and it will still suddenly be reflective of the chiefs dropping the ball and not maximizing an operative. Right. Well, I mean worth saying though, that part of that stems from the initial. I mean insanity over the chiefs in the Rams, right? We thought the entire NFL had changed forever. Because of what we were watching from these offenses and worth noting that there has been sort of a seismic shift because of rule changes because of a fresh creative offense of minded coaches because of capable signal callers there has been a shift, but we saw defenses catch up. And so if the Rams and chiefs fall in this divisional round, it's not necessarily because of bad energy. It's because we're seeing things even out a little more. And we're seeing defensive-minded guys catch up to the tricks in this game that we saw really dominating early on. Now that being said fits the Rams have a lot more flaws to me than the chiefs. Do the chiefs are a team that is good as the colts look should win this game. And I think fair or not this will come across as another. Andy Reid mistake. Even if it it he puts together the perfect plan. And and it just doesn't execute are. Things don't drop or the luck isn't his doesn't go his way. Well, when you think about for the chargers aspect of it when you think about what what the charges are trying to get done nave see to me. I can't find that. The Andy Reid thing is easy. I think my mind is still a little I'm still shook Sarah that you you you made the Philip rivers. Now stuck in my head. Like, Philip rivers is the problem with the chargers, and I have a hard time saying that. But when you look at the match ups, they both just have really tough like the chargers going to New England should not be easy for that team. I I it's hard for me to the are the chargers a better football team than the patriots today. Yes. I do think they are are the chargers a better team in New England. No. So is it a shortcoming for the chargers if they lose that game? I I don't know how to quantify that. Yeah. That's a tough one especially because like you said the patriots are so dominant in Foxborough and because historically they Philip rivers has not been good against the patriots. The chargers have played the patriots eight times with rivers at quarterback. And the chargers are one in seven in those. Games. The only time that rivers has led the chargers to a victory over the patriots was two thousand eight when Matt Cassel was at quarterback Brady was out with a tornado. So this is setting up for disaster. Based on the fact that you believe that the chargers to be a better team and the patriots to be flawed and on the way out of their dynastic window. But looking at that that's a lot of mental stuff to bring into that one. Right. Speaking of bad energy knowing your history against them. And ultimately, I keep looking at that just thinking of having to go back to the east coast again. I mean, I'm surprised that it says, it's it's hard. Well, hopefully, we haven't ruined the day for he's gonna talk Cuyler Murray next and his big decision on Spain. And fits we all thought we knew what Karla Murray was going to do. He's going to go to baseball is going to get that guaranteed money. He's going to avoid the crushing blows of football and settle into a career with the Oakland A's. But. Not so fast big decision to be made Spain in bits on ESPN radio the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz. We are presented by progressive insurance with spoon to talk about a guy. That's got a decision to make choosing between two sports. We thought who better to speak to it than a former two sport athlete. Brian Jordan, former MLB outfielder and NFL safety to speak to the decision. Kyle Murray is making let's go to the shell Pennzoil performance line. Brian, let's start with a are you surprised that after all of the conversation that by this point? We now have have a new conversation about Murray, and that he's maybe deciding he doesn't want to just go straight to baseball. Absolutely not. I'm not surprised when they when you're able to able to play two sports at such a high level for so long. Like, this young man has being one of very few to make the under armor baseball team on a heist. School and football team. It says a lot about his abilities, and you know, to go out there and excel at the college level, like he has, you know, it's great to see another potential two sport athlete out there. And he is in a great position right now to to be very successful at both sports. So Brian if he wants to go all in on getting ready for the combine and getting ready for teams in the draft and that causes him to miss them spring training. If he then flips a switch and decides he wants to go back to baseball. How far back will that set him? Well, he's talented enough to make a judgment. And you know, he's he's also talented enough to know that he has to keep swinging even if he's going through football workout, and I'm quite sure smart enough to do that. So he'll be prepared for both. You know, he's already in football shape knowing that the season. It's just indie. And for me. He's definitely in baseball shape already. So it's gonna be a tough decision for him. But I I don't think that's going to be a problem. You know, everybody's talking about Hayes may four point six million dollars. Well, you know, what if he goes in the first round NFL, he's gonna make a lot more of that, you know, upfront being a quarterback, but it will be tougher for him to play two sports though being a quarterback versus beyond Santa's vote Jackson myself. But with position players, basically, you know, it's such pressures on a quarterback to to know everything about every position that defenses. You know, it's a it's a year long mission on quarterbacks, you know, they got to build this report with their line. They gonna build a report with the receivers and offense of coordinators, which you know is a yearly thing not just the season. So if he does play football is gonna take a lot of focus and concentration for them to be elite quarterback in the NFL Spain fence, we're talking to Brian Jordan, Fox Sports south analysts yet a fifteen year. Major league baseball career was a safety for a couple years with the falcons now you were with the falcons from eighty nine to ninety one while you were working your way up the minor league system for the cardinals on the baseball side. The on the fact that the quarterback position is a different one in it is sort of a year round pursuit. It's also a different time. How would you speak to the differences in the current age of professional sports and and requirements versus when you were playing in the nineties and early two thousands. Well, it's a lot safer. I can tell you that, you know, with all the new tackling rules and no. Helmet contact rules. That's something to think about if if I'm calling Mary I mean, it's not as as rough and tough as it used to be. So the NFL's don't a good job of trying to make this a safe a ball game. But it is a difference. You know for me, you know, Dan, I came in the same time. So it was perfect timing for both of us to go out there and do the same thing and Atlanta Falcons, they will all on allowing it to happen. So you know, I it's about having that opportunity and Oakland A's seem like they're going to give them that opportunity. They they rather not see them play football. But you know, he's just that good to go out there and win the Heisman Trophy. And I guarantee you he's probably if not the top quarterback coming out, which I think has skins because of his size is probably the number one quarterback. But he's surely gonna be right there. Number two three in this NFL draft. We're talking to Fox Sports south analyst Bri. In Jordan on the shell Pennzoil performance line Spain and fits so if you were a GM right now in the NFL looking at Kyla Murray on the draft board would the fear that he would decide at any point during his contract to just go back and play baseball. 'cause you to let him drop down the draft board. No, he's such impactful player. And you look at the situation now in the NFL. I mean, they're they're moving towards athletic quarterbacks mobile quarterbacks. You know, the college offenses are finding their way to the NFL right now. You know, it's about school imports in the NFL to win. And you know, so a guy like calamari fits that Bill. You look at what Lamar Jackson did last year for the ravens GM's starting to look at that. And say man, you know, that would be awesome to to have athlete that can extend the play extended drop to keep out defense off the field. And that's why Paul the most probably one of the better defenses in the league because they held the ball so long because Lamar Jackson legs and arm, and I think calamari has that same ability and can be very impactful in the whole situation with Kingsbury getting the head coach and tell with the Arizona Carney. I think that would be ideal situation for him, you know, to be able to be in Arizona around baseball year round and the able to work with the old see and his his teammates and still play baseball. I think if he can get in that scenario, we'll see him do both sports insane and Fitz on ESPN radio talking to foxsports out analyst and former to support pro athlete, Brian Jordan. You don't a lot of the conversation around Murray's decision. I think some arguments stemmed from those who believe it makes sense for this to be a financial and business decision for any athlete who has just a small window to make as much money as possible in the career that they've devoted their life to up to this point and others who argued that the best way to make this decision is love of the game. Which one of those do you find yourself drawn to the most which one I guess, maybe frustrates you the most when you hear someone arguing it while I if frustrate straits me when they argue that because you know, he wouldn't be playing. Oh at such a high level, he didn't love both sports and to be one of the elite to have that opportunity to play to professional sports. I mean, he would be foolish not to at least take advantage and and give himself an opportunity. I think he's a tremendous player Beck and get it done. Again. I it's a lot of things have to happen the right way for them. And you know, I'm I'm pulling for him. I really hope that he he does play both. Because as a quarterback, you know, if you think about it. He he gets drafted in the first round that four point six million that was given to him about it, the as we'll go by the wayside, and they'll make a lot of money and those first three years the becoming the quarterback and a quarterback that I can go in there and start on certain teams right now. So he plays three years. I played three years in the NFL. And I decided, hey, okay. That's enough. I was beating my body up. And I said, well, let's go play baseball. And I was. Able to do that. And I think he has the ability to do the same thing, you know, high eleven point seven million dollar signing bonus help to write that Saint Louis game. I give up football. Oh, no question. I'm gonna be honest. I wasn't really petty give up because I was just you know, I was altered in the Pro Bowl. I was just starting to take off in the NFL. But because I had a family at that time. It was just a smarter decision on jeopardy healthwise. You know, I was heck I was almost second on team in tackles. So I was really beaten up my body right behind Jessie tuggle. So you know, the two years we we will battling it out. So Brian, you know, doesn't there have to be some concern? If he tries to play both. I mean, just the timing of it. If he's on a baseball team at any point. That's good. Then a team's not going to have their starting quarterback until the end of the World Series. Or he's going to have to leave a baseball team in the middle of a World Series run to go play football. Like that just doesn't seem like it can work. Well, you gotta understand. I'm not saying right away. I'm gonna take some times worked his way to the major leagues. So you look at his first in NFL. He's gonna probably play what maybe twenty five mile league baseball games. And then go return back football camp. You know, I played thirty minor league games hit over three hundred and went and play football. So they knew I had to potential I show my potential on the baseball field, those thirty games. So they never gave up on me. And they kept giving me the opportunities. And I think he's that type of player. He has power. Yes. Speed. He can be successful at the baseball at major league baseball level. But he's it's gonna take him time to make those first three years. They're going to be important. But it gives them time to go play football two. It's about, you know, having right situation and having both teams, you know, giving him that opportunity to do that that's going to be important. Let you go one word if he has to pick one, which one should you pick in your opinion. Of course baseball longevity. Long, debbie. Thanks for the enzyme, really. Appreciate it. Sure. It's taken. Thanks so much. And. Brian Jordan of Fox Sports. Awesome stuff. We'll get back into Kylo Murray because there's more to get to on that. But we want to get into the AFC playoff picture. We're gonna do that next on Spain and Fitz. Quick update on our poll, we asked chiefs fans, and I'm sure they weren't the only ones voting whether the heartland medium has cleared the negative energy at Arrowhead stadium. A seventy percent of fan said, no. But thirty percent believe that she went in and exorcised the demons and made it a little bit easier for the chiefs to blow off some of those demons from the past. Well, I mean that means seventy percent of the people are part of the problem. We just heard about negative energy, y'all. I gotta pick that energy up think positive stadium needs it. That's right. She did mention that. If you could send some good thoughts to old Hank Schram or strong, or strong, whatever his name was the old coach they got unfairly fired that that would that would be helpful. So you know, what do you have to lose chiefs fans other than another playoff game? That was meet. I'm sorry. You know, what we promise you? We were gonna talk AFC, but I actually won't talk NFC because we haven't. Really gotten into those teams much and these games this weekend fits are. So hard to predict we asked yesterday what people felt the most confident picking the winner of. And it was the saints against the eagles, which you know, any other time of the season. I'd probably say absolutely sure the saints or the most balanced team. They were might preseason pick for a Super Bowl champion. And and then I look over at big Nick energy over there. Nick foles who seems to be absolutely untouchable come late season compla- offs. Anytime. The pressure is on and it's making me a little bit more concerned for the saints coming into this weekend. I still feel great about this one. And that basically means I'm wrong, right? The song I feel about the worst the worst. This is going to go. But I think so much becomes back to the fact that it's in New Orleans, and you know, we just sort of accepted the fact that this point that New Orleans is able to do whatever they want. However, they want particularly at home this year. They've done it with question marks wide receiver a time. They've been able to do whatever they want because frankly, drew Brees is great Alvin kamera's played great like when you think about the offense for the saints. They've been able to score so many points. And I I realized that the eagles went in and did the unthinkable. I did not think that they'd be able to put up a fight against your bears. I understand that. But you got to score a lot more points. And I mean a lot more points to compete with the saints team. That's a tall order for Nick foles. I don't think look Nick foles is doing a nice job. He's doing a great job. But you really wanna get into a shootout with Nick foles? I I don't think. So I don't think you do. Yeah. There are some interesting injury report folks that might you know. Lend some extra intrigue to this game. Al Sean Jeffrey limited because of ribs both yesterday and today, so we'll see if that ends up being important Dramont Bushrod limited because of a hamstring saints offense tackle. So there are some that, you know, Michael Bennett who's been absolutely huge didn't practice either day because of a foot injury. He's been able to play in games. Even when he's been limited in practice. So I think you probably feel pretty confident that he'll find his way onto the field. But yeah, I mean some of these some of these injuries could come into play this part of the season. The saints are going to be much more rested. Obviously since they got to sit and watch as the bears in eagles beat each other up. I think Mike confidence in drew Brees outweighs my shorty that Nick foles continue his hot streak dumb. And it did take a lot right? The bears had that game in their hands or I guess in their foot and it got away. Oh. And you know, again, I think it's the number of options here like Michael Thomas, led the NFL hundred twenty five catches drew Brees. Obviously spectacular year. I mentioned on the Kamera. They were the six Beth best rushing yardage team in the NFL and the most rushing touchdowns when you think about all those numbers stacked up they're going to be able to score points. And when you get into shoot, I don't I don't wanna get into a shootout. If I'm the eagles. I don't see any way the eagles can prevent the shootout. That's why I think they lose a game. And the home field advantage is huge as you mentioned Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio and the ESPN app Sarah Spain and Jason Shelly fits with you. Let's move onto that other game. We got Rams Cowboys. And this is one that I said of the four I feel the most confident in this is also coming from someone that went one in three in wildcard picks and thought the Cowboys were gone last weekend. The Rams are team that we have seen flaws in an especially down the stretch Goff kind of cooled off a bit. And it felt like defenses around the league were catching up to the genius of Sean McVeigh. And this is interesting not just because of the expectations for the Rams all season long. But also because the entire league is hiring coaches in in the mirror image of Sean McVeigh, and creating a coaching tree for a guy that is this new coach himself. So if he doesn't win a playoff game. And you've got a guy who's influencing the entire league without ever winning ask single playoff game. That's super intriguing as well. And it's intriguing to me to see how this offense goes in this game. Let's remember last year. The the Rams only about thirteen points in the first round of the playoffs. So and their first playoff game, not the equality effort. They wanted they haven't played well down the stretch as you mentioned, but they didn't have Todd Gurley. I mean Todd Gurley hasn't carried the ball since the the middle of December at this point. So in my mind, this is going to be about girly who reports today, he's been fully cleared. He's gonna play. He's one hundred percent. He's a full participants bid taking off the injury report. So he's healthy. You can ask him to be right now, we're gonna find out quickly because as much as we wanna talk about golf and as much as. We want to talk about the dynamic offense. It's really all triggered through Todd Gurley. So if girlies healthy, I think they they not only win they win convincingly. But part of that's because frankly, I just wanna I wanna hear the pain in the tears from will Caine on. An admirable reason to to root for their demise. Thank you mentioned the run game, obviously is equally at a huge part of this match up to LA allowed the most yards per carry in the league this season. And as equal Elliott led the NFL in rushing in just fifteen games, by the way. So this is a team that likes to run the football and play with the lead. They like to put Ezekiel Elliott out there, and let him lead the way. And this is not a Rams team. That's particularly built for that. They have been able to win games even went allowing a lot of ground coverage for the opponent. But in all three of their losses this season. The opposing team rushed for at least one hundred ten yards. This is this is a team that's nine and oh if they can hold their opponents under one hundred ten yards on the ground. So I think of focus very early on is to take as equally out of this one. And it has to be also I thought the other interesting set coming in as the Cowboys are six in one when Zeke it's twenty or more carries. I don't look at this game plan and see how. How is it possible? He's not gonna get twenty cares. Right. They're going to have to find a way to impose the he's gonna get the twenty carries. So something's got break. Here. You know? And that's the other advantage for the Cowboys is going to be that they're going to run the ball a bunch. They're going gonna have success winning the ball, which is time that they're basically on the field, and they're going to be able to take the Rams out of their rhythm and their offense. I mean, that's the game plan is pretty simple in that sense. The question is just going to be which one of these coaches goes out and wins the game for their team because it'll be funny to me at the very least of the conversation afterwards. If McVay wins McVay loses. Sorry, well, he gets some sort of a dust on this policies got right now. But conversely, if Jason Garrett loses he's losing to the hottest coach right now in the NFL, not just because he's a cute guy. But a hottest goes in the NFL, and all of a sudden they're still going to be questioned if they get beat bad. There's going to be questions about Jason Garrett jobs. So a, you know, it's it's two coaches in trending and completely different directions for the court of public opinion, absolutely sarahspain and Jay. Jason fitz. You're right about that. We did have GARRETT'S job basically, gone midseason, and then they eat their way into the playoffs and one wildcard game. And now all bets are sort of office far as understanding what Jerry Jones might be thinking about his head coach fits, are you a rust guy. Are you concerned at all about the teams that sat last week? No, I think at this point, you know, look if you win the nobody's gonna complain about anything if you lose complained about everything, but ultimately, I write these are pro athletes. I I love I love the idea of getting guys healthy. I think that's the most important thing you can possibly do. So I'm gonna take health over any argument about getting rusty after after the grind of entire regular season. One extra week shouldn't suddenly make you incapable of you know, not committing Bonet penalties. For example, news from the Bengals coming up next on Spain and Fitz. Also, we'll talk to someone out of Casey to see if anybody surrounding euro head stadium. And that team has the same concerns that the guys Ramiro head guys dot com. Had is the team itself? Send. A medium to the stadium to clearly the coming up next on Spain and bits.

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"L? Glad to have you. With us Dak Prescott. They Cowboys have a number of high items on their agenda this off season. We'll tell you the latest which airy Jones and Ken Philip rivers back up his talk. He doesn't use worse. But note is one of the fastest pressure walkers in the league, and who is the better NFL factory is an Alabama or state or we'll put Clemson in that group. We'll talk about that as we look ahead to the two thousand nineteen season. We're happy to have you with us on this Tuesday. Wendy next Louis Riddick the Dan's. That's what Lewis in the dance. Dan, Graziano, Dan Orlovsky here with us teams around the league continue with voluntary workouts this week, and we use we emphasize if you will the word voluntary. And here's one reason why levian bell had this to say on Twitter about missing the jets voluntary workouts when it's time to play football. I gotta stick to the point that I know works best for me to be the best player. I can be. I'm not just. Trying to win football games. I want a ring I want to desperately show everybody. What I can really do. I'll take the heat right now. Everybody will forget about that once January rolls around. Maybe so, but the last time we saw let me I'm playing football January fourteenth two thousand eighteen don't forget he missed an entire season. That's when the Steelers lost the Jags in the divisional round. We did the calculation four hundred seventy eight days since levian has been on the field. It should be noted that bell was there for the first week after that he's out Adam gates said you know, what I'm not concerned about it. Even so perhaps because it's a new team Louis perhaps because he did miss an entire NFL season. It's sort of jumps out. Anyway, that lovey Abell has been missing. Do. You have a problem with him not being there for the first two phases. No. Ideally, would you like for them to be there as a teammate and as an administrator and as a coach sure you'd like for them to be there. But really faced is really where I would actually like to see him participate. If I was his team mate. Because that's when you're talking about seven on seven work eleven on eleven work on the field. Where look you can do anything that you wanna do whatever suits you best as far as your individual preparation. But the fact that matters this it is a team game. It is a relationship game. It is a new game that you can only improve on if you are around the rest of your teammates. So if you wanna play in January, and you wanna win a ring it's not just about what you can do. It's going to be about what your team does. So this third phase. I think is critical to see if he does participate, and let's be clear, Dan, Orlovsky, I guess have to specify they are voluntary. I mean, the players association bargain for this. Right. It was agreed upon by. No means is it not even. So it always makes headlines voluntary is also changing around franchise and proving where the of your contract and winning games in December and indigenious I'd say matters because we documented he hasn't played in a long time. I get that. But it's not only learning new Seta teammates. You're learning. A new set of coaches, you're learning new city a new. Action Front office. People equipment is all that stuff adds up for you to be comfortable. And then to play your best on top of that learning a new offense and trying to establish yourself like lady on he says, I want to be the best. I can be will being the best. You can be as making sure that you're the best team that you could be around your teammates and whatnot. So for a guy that has some narrative tied to them whether you like it or not there's some narrative tied to them. I would want to be kind of dispelling that day by day by being around my teammates being working proving. I'm here to win. Let me play devil's advocate for just a minute. I happen to agree with you. But as somebody a veteran veteran player knows his body. Can you make the argument Dan that he really does need to do it the way he's comfortable? He needs to do it the way he believes will maximize his playing potential once he is back. Of course, you can. And you know to your earlier point, this is voluntary it's voluntary. I mean, we teams aren't allowed to complain that these guys aren't here. What we're doing? Here is doing their work for them. It's not we're not supposed to be shaving these guys in. Into into not exercising their rights. If he if he feels like this is the best way to get ready for the season. And this is what he's doing. I gotta stay home wherever he is. I got to work out. And do it the way I've done it before he missed all of training camp in two thousand seventeen still went over twelve hundred yards rushing over six hundred yards receiving you know, he knows what he's played five years in the league. He knows what it takes to get ready for season. I recognize your point about new team at cetera. And the impression it makes. But I think we've definitely learned over the past two years about levian bell. That he's not that concerned with the impression he makes publicly. He believes he'll deliver on his promise. And we'll all get to find out together say big difference between the Pittsburgh situation. This one is Pittsburgh is an established culture. It's an established organization who had multiple leaders. He's expected to in many ways come in and be one of those eaters. I was in Detroit with in dumping sue and he wanted to do his own routine in the off season, but they wanted him there. So he went he was in Detroit for great majority the off season, but he did his own routine. He did his own training in preparation there. So. Ways to do it. We could still be around every situation's different. But degrade organizations best players of their best work. I still don't think it's that big of a deal because we still have another face to go through which is ultimately the most important one. If you've been through these all season programs, how they're constructed right now phase one into it's great from familiarity standpoint. But look, yeah, the players can do without that this phase though right now you'd like to see him participate. Ideally, I dealing ideals the work yet. Ideally, I'm not sure who made the point you Danny said, he's not concerned about what everybody else has obviously the last couple of notice that case that that is true. You're just a little bit like that no marches to the meat of his own drum. He's been successful doing it that way and he's got a young quarterback who's entering the final year of his rookie deal, and he's sort of in that next year to get a big long term extension. The Cowboys have made other moves has probably eight top priority. And Jerry Jones has been asked repeatedly about new deal for his quarterback. Here's what he said. We're showed them Dak and we do won't tab him for the long term. We think he's worthy of investing in for the long term. When you look at the situations. He's been in. We say real upside in debt, you don't have it. All yet, you seem when going gets tough or you see when he's got to come from behind when he kinda turns it loose a little bit. You seem make those plays all of those things Imboden may to make a deal with him that puts him here with the Cowboys. For the long term. We talked about smokescreens. I I will tell you right now. I don't believe this is a smokescreen. Jerry Jones means what he said he's been very clear about putting chips all in on the table. When it comes to Dak Prescott. He's earned it. And a lot of ways, Dan. But let me ask you this. We saw a pretty strong rookie season. And after that if you look at the numbers, I would not bad is is that the way to characterize deck. Okay. Yeah. Not that. Okay. I mean, one of the things that I've said that hurt deck in a way was that rookie year. He was afforded such incredible protection. More often than not quarterback coming in come to the NFL in they're forced to play really fast, and if they can adjust it's a huge benefit to them. What happened with deck is he was afforded such protection early on? He never learned to really play fest. When I mean by that is the bottom, my hands don't pass up a completion of guy, you think might be more open. So you see him hold the ball for long period of time. And that hurt him that hurt this often? So for him to take the next step to really kind of weren't the money that they're planning on paying him. He's gonna learn. Seven seven is different than games. And that bowl has got gotta get out. And they need him to take this next step in order to do exactly what they want is to win a championship. No question about it. And look contracts supposed to reflect future performance. And obviously Jerry Jones is already alluded to the fact that he expects the best of deck Prescott to be seen in the future. You haven't seen it yet? So he's hoping some of the things we'll show you hear on this tape are the things that you're going to see him improve on particularly third down in big situations. This here is in the playoff game against the ram. This ball has got to be out of his hands. Because if you could see the all twenty two copy wide receivers are open in these hundred situations than he has to hit them. He cannot take untimely sex. He cannot hold onto the football. As Dan was alluding to it on third down in particular on the road when your team needs you and the protect it isn't perfect. And they have set down Zeke Elliott in defense is struggling, and you aren't getting many cracks at the ball as far as having possessions. Because other team is eating up the clock. Like the Rams in this game. You have to hit these kind of throws who the put it on the wide receiver make it easy for them. And you have to play of buzz. Of what people expect you to play especially when they're going to pay the kind of money, they're going to pay him, it's likely to be a fair amount of money absolutely fair. It's a massive bet. Right. I mean, if they're lucky it's twenty eight million dollars a year. Right. If he cuts them a break more likely he's going to be shooting for thirty. Plus that's where the market is right now for starting quarterback. So they're obviously betting that he'll improve the Dallas Cowboys when you talk to people there. They are happy with what Dak Prescott has been certainly considering where he was drafted. He's been more than they ever expected. But yeah, he's twenty five years old. And obviously they do believe that he will continue to develop and get better. But the big bet is on as you mentioned future performance. And it's a it's a safety net against the worst possible thing for a team, which is to not know who your quarterback is the Dak Prescott in the hand is better than whatever's. You have in the Bush because. Seen this guy play and win games in the NFL. And that's a that's a baseline that a lot of teams can't get to when they get to quarter player valuation is highly subjective. Right. And it's about managing expectations their expectations for what they deemed to be good enough play maybe much different than what? Ours is. And you're right. A lot of it is driven fear of would if we had none of this. What if we didn't even have this guy? Would you rather have that or pay this guy thirty million here? Everybody else complain about it. Well, I think we know what that answer. Dallas Cowboys in tier point the Dallas Cowboys believed that they will continue to be the kind of team that can work with Zeke Elliott as the focus of the offense behind a powerful offense of line. And as long as they are that then back Prescott level of performance. I think continues to be at least acceptable if not more. The question is what happens when that starts to fray a little bit has he advanced to the point where he can be more of a guy that carries. Don't forget. This deck has been good under an offensive coordinator scheme that many kind of deemed a little bit behind the times in the NFL. So it's really going to be like. Kelvin Moore who takes over as their offensive coordinator is a guy that I played with does. He take deck to the next level strictly with some scheme, some creativity. That's going allow him to flourish. Maybe utilize him as a little bit more of a weapon down in the red zone. Running the ball too. So that's going to be part of his match as well. The Cowboys have so many things to get to during the off season. Again, though, I think right now you could probably argue that Dax at the top of the list this from our Adam Schefter earlier today. Tampa defensive end Jason Pierre Paul severed a potential season ending fractured neck injury in a single car accident. It was last week in south Florida. This is according to leak sources to ESPN Pierre Paul will visit next specialist this week he'll seek second opinions to see if there is any hope at all to salvage the season, Dan in this case Grazziano, what more can you add again, they're hopeful. But it sounds like, you know, the fear is is is more powerful at this point than the hope that the expectation. Is that they won't get the good news. Hopefully, they do. But you know, he's he's probably in line to miss the season neck injuries when teams deal with neck injuries. I it's different from other kinds of injuries in terms of. Some tears an ACL. There's a surgery for it. There's rehab plan for it neck injuries. So many different things can go wrong with such potentially disastrous consequences that very few teams and very few players are interested in putting the player back on the field. When there's something with his neck. So they will be extra extra extra careful, and then maybe one more extra before they talk about possible timetable for return. He led the team with twelve and a half sack sized here. He'll he'll be missed question. Fingers crossed. Of course for there to be some good news thirteenth annual fantasy football summit was last week. And the group released their rankings for the upcoming two thousand nineteen season there on ESPN dot com right now. Here's a look at the top five wide receivers. Appr league will start at the top. John Jay Hopkins ranked number one. He has the second. Most fantasy point today. PR league last season. Number two. Devante atoms. He showed he's been number one option in Green Bay one hundred eleven. Paul Teich or fit most among wide receivers. Julio slots in it free. The most receiving yards of any wide receiver last season. His eight touchdowns the most since two thousand fifteen catch machine. Michael Thomas comes in at four. He caught eighty five percent of the passes thrown his way, that's the most of any wideout and at number five Obie J when healthy Odell one of the most productive white outs in fantasy in just twelve games off season almost twenty points for game. So here is the full list. It's the top ten fantasy football wide receivers again for the upcoming season. And a little interesting year juju Smith Schuster ranked higher than former teammates Antonio Brown. Brown has been top five fantasy option since two thousand thirteen the question, though, both of these wideouts. We'll have to make some adjustments. I here's this. Breaking news. Antonio Brown is a raider giants have read to trade del beckoned junior to the ground. Jets added a major weapon Levy on Dell. All right. Matthew, twenty nineteen regions much of the debate Senator on big names in new places. You're right. Tony brown. Lady on bell Oto Beckham. My reds can finding alliance of American football guard Selassie data. Yeah. Focus on those first three names. But all right. Cleveland interesting. You add him to the mix. This team is dangerous way. I it Oto Beckham takes a big step up by joining Cleveland since he entered the NFL OBI Jay has scored on a ridiculous eleven point three percent of his reception. And now get to play with a quarterback in Baker Mayfield who just broke the rookie record for passing touchdowns in season. That is my wide receiver four entering twenty nineteen. Yeah. And that's in line with the rest of the ranker's. You're not nearly as high as others on the former Steelers. Thought by Tonio crowd. What an outstanding catch. Still fantasy studs. Don't get me wrong. But the fact is coke Laden Val and Antonio Brown or leaving an offense in Pittsburgh that had far more town across the board compared to their new teams. There's going to be real drop here. Like when your camera instead of me exact, but don't worry about it. Just going Matthew lady on bell Antonio Brown. Still elite talent at the position. They're only Rowan two pits Romy and fantasy in twenty nineteen and not the must have first rounders. They weren't Pittsburgh. Right. So there's that. And there's this both of these guys will obviously make some judgments one with a new team one really with a new role because he's got to prove to do that is that he's a number one receiver and can carry this team. So Lewis I'll start with you. Who's who's got the bigger adjustment to make Brown has the bigger just because there isn't the same. Familiarity. Look he ran in the same systems entire career. Now, he's going to an entirely new one where they're trying to integrate a lot of different moving parts, especially at the at the skill position. And let's put it this way. Look, we're not out in Oakland out in Oakland. I'm not sitting there in meetings with Jon Gruden dare car. But let's say there's there's smoke. There's usually fire and that doesn't seem like the best relationship between a head coach and a quarterback. So we don't know how that can affect Antonio Brown's automate production either going forward juju. Now, obviously is a number one. He hasn't been a number one. He had a beat in the system that was very much. So accustomed to in Pittsburgh taking a lot of the pressure off of him. So that does account for. Something but he's gonna hit the ground running in these OT as mini camps with Ben Rothlisberger ABC trying to figure out what's the nuance here relationship here between me and you Derek Carr. So I think do is a guy who at six still may be too low. I think he's as good as del Beckham. Is he's also learning new system with Baker Mayfield. And they actually have some other weapons there too in Cleveland. So I think we may be underselling juju a little bit. I think he's up to thank you have to add into the equation that this team this quarterback in Pittsburgh. I mean, they've got a lot of incentive there to make sure this works to make sure that you've spent Shuster is successful and that can count for something. I agree with everything that loose said about AB AB used to be in a one. He's used to being the guy that hey, whatever coverage. You have you're gonna double me, you're gonna roll me. Cool. I'll beat it. The thing with juju is when you go from being the to the beneficiary of the one getting the double team in you always getting singled up to now being the guy that's gonna get all those double teams. A different world. I mean, you turn on the week seventeen game last year against Cincinnati when AB didn't play and it was a different story for juju. And so now, it's not only that he's got a have to be the one and replace what AB did. But it's also the fact that he's got to be relying on James Washington to step up, and he's got to be reliant on Deontay Johnson step up and they lost Jesse James tight end. So later on bell is not there this year. So now Jews not only going to have to be the guy commending the double teams, and then whooping those double teams, but also banking on some guys around him to step their game up and take some pressure off him thing about this. Sorry. Okay. That if you have to say, you know, what I you know, when the fantasy world like I love the word sponsorship. That's word. I used all here. We don't need to say in the fantasy world you just like that. Okay. So let's put it this way. When we're looking at these rankings right here juju there's you mentioned this earlier this tremendous incentive for Pittsburgh to sponsor the heck say, hey, look, maybe we don't miss you at all what's. So the number of targets. He's going to get is going to be ridiculous. It really is. So from Vanisi perspective. I really do think he's low with Odell. Of course. Cleveland wants to see him do. Well, but he's got some good players on that team to that are gonna be saying, hey, we kinda like we are shirt fair share to in Pittsburgh. I mean who's going to challenge Judy right now as far as being the the target hog. I mean, really who is it. It's a great point. I do still hope that you're drafting one ahead of me. If those guys are still on the board take my chances with Dell proven production etcetera, but juju had more receiving yards than Antonio Brown last year. Now, we know because we have Twitter that Antonio thinks. It's because he was there, and obviously he's not there anymore. But the the question is as you raise is James Washington. Take a step forward to any other young receivers the Pittsburgh Steelers believe in their program and. Ability to develop wide receivers. Antonio Brown was a late round pick juju Smith Schuster was a second round pick. They believe that they can develop at that. At that position in particular. Obviously, they're trusting in it because if he's the only game in town of wide receiver they're going to have problems they have. Johnson. As one of those guys did I can verify. Here we go time now for sounds good. Sounds bad. I like it. It's just Dan. I just throw it up there. You guys could figure out who has what right me and the Dan what we'll start with the Redskins and this off season, they acquired case keenum in a trade with the Broncos. And then of course, draft a quarterback Dwayne Haskins with the fifteenth overall pick Harris case keenum on the Redskins starting quarterback job. To to get the work with Haskins on owes a great lawyer Oxy watched a lot of his college college game. So this is no game to me in the situation four. So, you know, I'm coming to compete and competition makes all of better. So I hope I'm me Kim better. I think he's gonna come in and make me better. That's that's that's what helps team. Hey, grass sounds good. Sounds bad. It sounds good. I mean, look this is he said this is him. Right. This is his career. He was the starting quarterback Jared goff's rookie year until they decided to put off and he knew that was coming and his time as the starter wouldn't last and then had the surprise run as Minnesota successful starter after Sam Bradford got hurt. So you know, he he knows that he has to work for everything. He's got he had the big contract from Denver last year that set him up. But I'm sure he's you know, I remember talking to him that year that he was with the Rams, and he was starting games and golf on the bench, and he was talking. I've talked to about golf golf's development in the conversation and his situation. So yeah, look, I'm trying to put together my career to you know, I think I can start in this league. So it's coming from a real place. I'm sure if he thinks about it the first round pick is probably gonna get a better chance to start than he is. But in his mind, he he's held other guys off before he has. But let's assume after take of argument that again first round pick will get the opportunity to start Winston back bay. Normally, I would say Dwayne Haskins consensus. Zoa intelligent plan for Washington situation and say let him sit for the year and really because of what's around him. Yeah. As long as you can. And I know it's always dicey. But this kid is plenty good of a throw the ball. He's plenty aware of all the situations that come with defenses and how to handle them have answers. But he still has only started fourteen games. And he's still is going to be deprived of some talent around him in Washington knows receivers need to take a huge step forward before I'm gonna throw a rookie quarterback out there and expect him to play at high level. So I often say quarterbacks are ruined more than the are made young ones if they can sit him as long as they're able to. All right. We'll move now to the Browns day know who their starting quarterback OB. There's no question about that yours. What Lovie Jay had to say this in an interview with Jake the G Q, I should say quoted as saying at plano being there. That's cleveland. The next five years in trying to bring many championships there as possible turning the Browns. Into way for it. The new patriots, Dan are lofty sounds good sounds bad. And I am here for this. This sounds great. To me. I'm tired of the hate about this Baker Mayfield last year stood out the combine and said like, I don't think there's anybody better to train change the Browns around then meet, and he came in and did it and now Dell's going like listen, I'm here to to to make this team. The new it team certainly in the AFC we want a model after the team that everyone says they want to become in the patriots. Why not like why not what is so bad about talking something into existence or hype like this this was in sixteen two years ago? So I I tend to skew old school, and it made your way, but I have no problem. Young and brash and not apologize for being there. Let's go back on this things. Odell Beckham is done doesn't even register right? As as a possible bad. They this is a great thing. And really it's an answer to people who would call him a me. I play right? His goal is a team goal. We want to be the patriots. Not I want to go to the hall of fame all that kind of stuff. So so his head is in the right place from from that standpoint, I think when I look back on Odell Beckham time with the giants the situations that he found himself in the caused himself trouble. We're often the result of losing. He really changed at all the losing that the giants did while he was there, which was an awful lot. So he wants to be a part of a winning culture. I think that's a real thing that exists in him. And I think that's coming out in that quote. And I think you'll see it how many wins because they'll need a live start. Start at twelve wins. I went for. Off their chairs and make gets a little dramatic twelve wins. Waiters seven in one last year. Seven eight one eight I give them the tack. Okay. So four those games they lost by total of eleven points. This is a better football team. So you're going to take those games and say, let's win some of those. They're really difficult games. This year at home. They get Seattle and LA at home. So I got the moving on the road to Pittsburgh got the moving on the road to Baltimore. I got them on the road at new Allan. One of those Rams Seattle games on here for this team. Do you have a catch screen at home? Like when you're at dinner. You're like, hey before we eat, I make my. Touchscreen menu Ren over humor the salad here. Sorry. You piece Kitto not my your choice. Draft all about defense and in the first ten fix. There was seven defensive players drafted since nineteen sixty seven. That's when the common draft era began it was just the fifth time. There was that many defensive players drafted in the first ten six. All right. Lewis is coped with the stage. He's comfortable under the bright lights. He sort of likes the spotlight. Gary is he serious about his drafting? Obviously a huge part of our draft. So in all seriousness, we looked at your all drafty offensive team yesterday the best of the best. If you will do the same thing on defense. This is where my passion lies. Let's start at the defensive of line. This look I can figure this as three four think of how the Dallas Cowboys of yesteryear. When Wade Phillips was there, and this is kind of adjusted three four because I really wanted to get some linebackers in here. So these guys don't necessarily fit at three four three of the best defense alignment industry. Look at all of our is gonna play the three technique up there in buffalo for Sean McDermott. He's going to -absolutely tear it up. We compared him there Donald three draft in terms of his athletic ability. It turns of his disruptive miss and how explosive he can be at the point of attack. And if he gets if he gets in the right scheme, which is showing you the right way, which he does he will be a guy who you're going to hear from from for a long time. Quinton Williams is just a record this. As is the big baby when he came in here to VN, I sat there and looked at him and went you're only nineteen. Old. I mean, this kid is at absolute record. I haven't here at nose tackle. He's not gonna be played in those tackle New York. They're gonna move into a shade. Whether that be the one technique on the state of the Senate or the three techniques state of the guard, and he's going to wreck havoc in the AFC east as well. And then on the other debts alignment, I have my boy Wilkins here Christian Wilkins from Clemson who? Really? I think is the was the best player on that defense this year. He's a guy who can play a one technique a three technique. He can play a ball. He played some defensive end in Miami. They're gonna need it because they are devoid of town along the defensive line down there in Miami. Guess about took out the Commissioner, but that now. That would be the men I would not wanna play against as a quarterback I walked up because physical freak incredibly explosive. But really smart like this kid understands leverage angles trying to get them. I believe this guy's got a chance to be absolutely transcended hilarious that when you talk to him. He seems so sweet mild-mannered steps on quarterback xactly until he gets between the lines. And then there's no messing with this kid. Now, the linebackers was really may be ultimately some of the most talented players in this draft. If we look here we start on the outside. Remember, we're talking about a three or four here. So these guys outside even though both is going to play with his hand down and chase a play with his hand down as well. And playing a little bit of a two point. I really wanted to go three or four because I wanted to get all these guys on here. If you start here with Nick bozo. We talked about the fact that he is a professional football player. Not a professional tester of professional football player. That is really gonna hit the ground running. Chase win averge. I'm telling you the reason why put him on there. He could not have gone to a better place to me, the comparible is this think of thought about clay Matthews when he came into the NFL a guy who really didn't like the world on fire at USC, but played his best football. When he got to the pros chases going to do the same thing because he's going to a defensive mastermind that is going to use him all over the place. He was one of the best players on their defense outside Devon Bush. He was better than Rashawn, Gary. He got drafted after resigned. Gary because he's not the same kind of athlete, but he's a better football player on the inside the to Devon's they're just spectacular. You can't come up with enough superlatives for these two kids Devin Bush, I think is going to be a pro bowler. And an all pro maybe the fastest of anybody of the defensive players that were drafted. And I know that's a big statement. But I'll say it like this his instincts to me are perfect his competitive. Temperament is perfect. His speed is outstanding his striking ability reminds me of a guy who I used to play with an Atlanta ending Jessie, tuggle, whom could absolutely just buckle. You Devon white is the guy who Todd Bowles one at down there in Tampa. He's at the command control center. He's the guy who's the leader. He's smart. He can play the run he can play the past. He's the new wave of linebacker along with Devon Bush to an order to combat with teams are doing to you offense, which is a tack and you between the numbers if you don't have these kind of guys you're dead is far as if it's a football's concern, I'm with Luan and hear me out. The patriots have a little bit of. History with in in here me vicious Rodney in Vic. Guy who is a middle round pick. That was probably drafted similar to win because maybe didn't blow people away with that lettuce Zimmer whatnot. But became an incredibly productive pro for this team. And I agree with Lou win. A bitch is going to be really good in New England and probably ends up being big time steel throat all of this draft, of course. Yeah. Yeah. I do actually. Here for listening to the back. All right. The guys who are near and dear to my heart and talk about the corners here. But the Andre Baker is one of those guys who's just a baller. He's the guy who shows up on Saturdays in college. He's going to show up on Sundays in the pros. But he is very scheme diverse, which is word I like to use a lot. He can play zone. He can play man he can play press seeking playoff and he's very physical at the catch point. And here's the thing. He's willing to tackle. And that's something. I really liked in corners other corner. It's a little bit of surprise Trayvon Mullen from from Clemson who went to Oakland. This may be one of the fastest most gifted press corners in this draft. If not the fastest most gifted press corner in the draft who also will tackle if you look at some of the highlights here, this guy has closing speed that is just a blur. And if you remember the national championship game this guy who will blitz from the boundary on those corner cat bullets and he will put a hit on your quarterback. So this is something. To remember about these guys. Now, we kinda spent broaden this out and look at the safeties Jonathan Abram who went in the first round to the Oakland Raiders an old school type of safety. He's the type of safety that the raiders, no, Jack Tatum, George Atkinson, Jonathan Abram will light you up. He's a guy who comes screaming downhill plays with the ferocity in a competitive temperament that you know, Jon Gruden is going to love it. He's going to be one of those guys is going to be counted on to set the tone as the raiders tried to reshape their image in the way, John wants it reshaping. And then one Thornhill what put on Twitter the other day as being one of those guys you're going to sit here, very quick. And you're gonna wonder why did he last to the second round the chiefs got a steel in this guy? Tremendous ball, skills tremendously, ping, ability sub for four speed. He's a guy who when you when you combine him with tyrod Matthew two of the most Heyman Tyron will form the best safety tandem in the NFL. As far as ball skills are concerned this year and the Kansas City. Chiefs could not be could not be happier. Think about there is this is why loose spot on with these safety Jonathan Abram and Thornhill they tackling space as a safety in the NFL game nowadays, but space and the way the ball gets out of quarterbacks hands distribution whatnot. You better be able to tackle in space 'cause you're gonna get thrown out there. Both those guys do that.

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Falcoholic Interview: Jeanna Thomas

"This is the alcohol ick. Podcast official PODCAST Falcons on the SP nation podcast network. I'm David Walker. You can call me. D W this is the second part in our series of podcast where you the listener will get snow Our STABLE OF WRITERS OVER THE ALCOHOLIC DOT COM certainly. This person isn't second fiddle to anything going on in our site as she is the lady in charge not only over the alcohol dot com but all of the NFL brands espionage yet. Her heart embody is still here in Atlanta. Yes she is the impossible when she is my podcast partner and my friend. The one and only Gina Mandoline Thomas Gina. Thank you for doing this David. Thank you for doing this. I think that this is going to be really fun for our listeners. To get snow are writers. Little bit better I think so. It's when you're reading an article or your you know just sort of going through the sight reading news. It's easy to get disconnected from the fact that at espy nation. At the ALCHOHOLIC. There are people behind this. They're actually fans of the team and their real life. Human beings have stories and I felt like it'd be good for our listeners to get some insight back into that. Yeah absolutely all right. Let's dive into it because I think you're a person who did not grow up in Georgia you and yet you're falcons fan so I think the first question is why. What made you Falcons Fan in? When did that happen and I have to tell you? I get this question a lot just because of my Ohio state fandom. I am a high native. I moved down here to the greater Atlanta Metro area in two thousand five And people ask me why. I chose to be a falcons fan on purpose because I could've avoided a lifetime of pain but no here. I am So I really growing up in Central Ohio. I love the Ohio State. Buckeyes Ohio State is my favorite college team. Very very may have noticed. Like I mentioned that every possibility And so when I moved down here is that so when we moved down here in two thousand five. My Ex husband. Who was my husband at? The time told me that I should check out falcons. They had Michael Vick. They were really exciting team. Like I just missed Ohio State football. It's such a big part of the culture in Central Ohio. So that was really what drew me to them. And then my ex husband won tickets through the Chamber of Commerce in Gainesville Georgia. To Go to a Falcons Game. It was the two thousand five season. They were playing against the Minnesota Vikings and it was my very first. Nfl game and Vic played for part of the game. Benny got her as was his tradition. And so the Goat Matt Shaab came and got to see him play too but I just kind of fell in love with that team. Bic was so so exciting And then you know two thousand seven happened. Vick went to prison and that was real heartbreak. And I don't know like I feel like if you're a falcons fan who lived through the two thousand seven season. Your Phantom has already been tried by fire like even twenty eight to three hurt us because that season was a disaster. And so anyway. That's how I became a Falcons Fan. Yeah I mean. That's you certainly came into an interesting time franchise history You know when I spoke to Dave in the the first part of the series he believed came an earlier in the Dan Reeves era. So you came in right in the middle of sort of the the height I think of the Michael Vick era know really an exciting time Atlanta. I remember distinctly billboards advertisements. I mean he was a superstar in the yeah. I mean he was on the cover of Madden. He was the hottest player in the League. Nobody nobody played the game like he did. He was just honestly a revelation. He was incredible to watch. I really think. Lamar Jackson is the closest player. Ten that we've seen him. Lamar I think is even a little bit more dynamic a. He certainly seems to be more durable but there really has not been another player. That's held accountable. Toback sense since he left lake. It's pretty pretty amazing. So on that note. What is one of your earliest memories fund or otherwise of this team? Yeah I'M GONNA go with otherwise because I'm going to tell you about I'm going to tell you about the day that my hatred of the saints was solidified and that would have been the very first game back in the Super Dome after Hurricane Katrina which now this is something that I have written about extensively. I wrote a very a wrote a very in depth article about it. When the Falcons were playing the saint on I think it was Monday night. Football on the anniversary of Back Game. But if you'll remember like they did not call and even game. They did not call that game equally every call. When against the Falcons they were letting the saints literally like destroy Michael Beck and he was taking so many hard heads. And I know that with mobile quarterbacks they do call things differently but this was the on the Pale and I remember this game so vividly because it was the day that I started hating the saints as you know that is very much I brand now so it was. It was the day that my brand was born but also I remember getting so mad and I had been meaning to do like a deep cleaning of my bathroom floor so I just turned up the TV in my bedroom. And I went in and like clean my friend or instead of watching it because I was too pissed off so yeah that's I have some earlier memories but that one I think is a little bit more at carries lost more weight for me. Yeah absolutely I is that that is the same game with the blocked plas. Yes it sure is an amazing guy and I wish him all the best and I know that that was a moment for saints fans to celebrate And I get that but I still really hate that team and I really hate the way that that game That's certainly a memory that I think. Many Falcons fans who've been watching for that length of time. would agree because that yes. It was sort of a stunning game at least in the way that they called it. You Could Hell. That the Falcons were just not going to get any help in that game and it seemed like from the first snap. It was a very much leaned against them. Which I'm sure saints. Fancy at differently but Yeah I certainly have the same memory realistic crew so so it's one thing to watch this team and to go to the Games. Cheer Them On. But you're not writing about them so winded that start happening. When you start writing about Falcons and why why did you take the onto your life? So it's kind of staggering to realize this but It would've been like training camp two thousand ten that I started. Right about the Falcons which is to me. So yes it's been a long time I started writing about the team because I used to work in the wedding and mystery and the owner of the venue where I worked was very bad at being a business owner and she spent all of the company's money on stuff that weren't they weren't business expenses and then we all got laid off and so all of a sudden I had all this time on my hands and so when some rules around I used to take my daughters. They were much younger than and I used to take them over to training him for open practices. And as you know. I'm extremely online so I would like tweet about what I was seeing and Dave noticed. Dave asked me if I was mind riding up rations and I tell you what like I think back to the early stuff that I wrote and I was terrible at it. I think that I wrote like a like avery. Thousand Word Fan post where it was almost like a play by play of training camp and that was ridiculous There there must have been enough. You know there to make Dave things that I would be a good addition and so he brought me in and I have been here ever since refusing to Boston. What your journey has been a real interesting when you've gone from someone who moved down here in the early ought to being someone who had season tickets for Thakin's to writing about them and now you're actually I mean within espy nation. You sort of moved up repeatedly and now you're over all brands and I have and I do think you know I really credit the Alchoholic for that because the Falcon Hollick did a lot of things for me. One made me taught me how to be confident in my voice and my observations And I think that that's the most important thing. But also it was my introduction espy nation. And I love the I love the potential that exists that our team sites. I love but somebody can come in here and like me with no background in sports journalism but some passion for it and willing to learn how to be good at it and work at it and then you know I ended up being credentialed a team which is like a dream come true and you know then have really turned into a career that I'm very very happy and so I feel very fortunate to have landed here. It's it's really cool and I think for people who read the Alcohol Eric who've been with us for a long time. They've seen that. I mean I personally have seen it because I think when I first started back in two thousand seven it was before we were credentialed. It was win. I think you were still covering training camp from on the Hill as Sakala. So it's been fun. It's been fun to see sort of that. Maturation and the prominence of the site sort of rise over the past decades of On that note you know. You can't write about this team for that long. Without having had some great takes and maybe pretty bad ones so I asked day for his his was easy bad blind Glenn Dorsey which was lend Dorsey over Matt Ryan Take. Yeah he's still I think cringes when he thinks about that. So for you thinking back since your time. Writing about the Falcons Whiz. Maybe one of the worst takes opinions. That you've had since covering the team you know. I actually also hated the Matt Ryan. Pick that I hate it. I was like this is really what you're going to do here like this is really you really think that this. Guy GonNa work out from Boston. College they don't play anybody like I was. I was like furious. Obviously I was an idiot so I take it back. Wow I know I embarrassed. I didn't know that this is the first time I've heard it in a decade of no you guys that this was a take the you also had so I. Guess Day not alone in that boat well and to be fair. That was before I was writing and before I was tweeting. So it's not like this is preserved anywhere on the Internet. But I'm just being honest with you. That was my. That was what I was stomping around my house and slamming stuff around yelling. Then he was drafted So yeah at least. I didn't really share that. Take a world but now I now I actually have shared the steak with the world. So great giggles Internet archives has has Dave's opinion locked in perpetuity. An alien race is GONNA come down three thousand years from now see that take and be like what the Hell Day. What was they thinking? What was on the flipside? I I think covering this team sometimes special. I think since we've gotten some better access to the team into some of the players. We get to see some things. Maybe normal fans don't get seen. I think that informs some of our opinions a little bit more. Maybe what is one of the best takes at the time you know wasn't seen as a normal opinion that you think worked out really well on that you're dead on when you when you have. Gosh I almost hesitate to say this but I was on board with. I was projecting the team to take down because of his connection with Florida. And so then he was. He was the pecking. People pitched a fit about it. And because I had been on board with this idea like I. That's what I expected from them. I had watched a lot of his. You Know Youtube highlights. I'M NOT GONNA act like I scout them or anything but I just watched him play and I knew like the hard hitting style on his ball. Hawk I knew that that was all the kind of stuff that when loves and people really were not thrilled about that. Pick at the time overall. I mean some people were I was delighted about it and obviously injuries caught up with them which breaks my heart but I think that he is every bit the player that I expected him to be before those injuries. And so standby that one. I really think the injuries of the only thing that have held them back and I think this sport so cruel in that regard but a- I think when we're judging players I don't think it's fair to judge them in the light of injuries. They had no control over so he certainly did have an injury history in college. Coming out and You know certainly hope he bounces back this year. I'm very hopeful I also love Think he's a fantastic player. But Yeah I who was the linebacker that I think? Jacksonville took at the top of the second round. All Falcons fans wanted us to take time miles. Jack Jack and I think the microfracture issue if I'm not mistaken and so that was I was concerned about that because that's very difficult entering rehab from the same draft class. We ended up taking deal Jones. Who argued has been one of the best linebackers taken in the past four years so and they were able to trade back a couple of spots. Pick up an extra pick to get Jones so I particularly loved that election. Yeah absolutely too great young players in that draft class all right the shifting gears a little bit shift to what is something that our readers. Our listeners may not know about you already. That is interesting or unique. That's you won't let the now. Let me thank While I mentioned a couple of minutes go that I started going to train a camp I got laid off my job in the wedding industry and this is kind of a funny story. I I was the director of marketing and Business Development for a small wedding venue in northeast. Georgia and I was in charge of the sales team. So I supervise them but I if all of the sales team were like at lunch or something bride came in I would have to take the appointment and invariably I would ask them for the budget and they would say like thirty five thousand dollars. Now it'd be like you know you could spend one tenth that and be just as married but you don't have to don't go into debt for a wedding and my boss told me she's like you have to actually sell the weddings like you can't sell them already. Five thousand dollars. We WANT THEM TO SEND THIRTY. Five thousand dollars like ethically. I don't think I can do that. I am very good at supervising a sales team. I am not very good at selling something bad impractical. And let me tell you. I'm getting married in a couple of months. And I. We are not spending anywhere close to thirty five thousand dollars. I can relate my brother-in-law I think you know had we both had A. We had a company together. We filmed weddings. And we were always stunned at the just the sheer number of dollars staff on his. Yeah for for someone who I think collectively Shane. I spent Lillo three thousand dollars on their wedding. thirty five thousand. Seems like I would just by car honestly. I buy a car outright. Have no payments? Put that money down on a house then have manageable more mortgage payment and built an equity like I bet you guys didn't know this was gonNA turn into a financial advice. Podcast REA- our our brand is whatever we wanted to be friendly so are a couple a couple of questions for good break For the Falcons. Who is your all time favorite player active or prior and why? This is so hard. This is so hard there are so many choose from. I might really have to save roddy white because I love everything about him. Like Steve of his on the field production. The person that he has off the field. He is hilarious. He always says the funniest stuff like I think that his retirement hit me harder than anybody else's so far slide thing that I would have to say roddy he was gosh he was always like the soul of the team when. Yeah Active players so only the folks are going to be on the twenty twenty roster from Falcons. Okay this is also very difficult. see what can we combine? Met William until one person can stay that new show. It's hard for me to pick between the two. I guess I Guess Yeah. I mean holy. Always just a generational talent I think that it's really hard to not say that. It's the guy who put up three hundred receiving yards against the panthers a few years back. I mean he just is. He's transcendent. He is so much fun to watch and he is just a game changer. I I guess I got a bully. Oh I mean he is just an absolute joy to watch and on the plus side he catches more than short slants. He does yeah saints slander while we can always so before we get to our second set of questions. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Hello this is Jesse David Fox. I'm senior editor at vulture and I host the podcast. A podcast about jokes. It's a podcast about well jokes. Every week I sit down with a comedian. Comedy writer or Director Willis to one of their jokes and figure out how it all came to get. I don't sit down with a pen and the pad and physically write down everything I just has not my style turns out comedians. Take jokes pretty seriously. I like all. Okay that's what I do. That's what I live where there's really nothing else I care about. It's all very revealing. What did you learn from this? What was your takeaway? I nothing I am not. I'm not a person good one from poultry and Vox media podcast network. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. Or on your favorite podcasts. At you do not use. The PUCK is African. Oh what a great question Jesse David Fox on Alcoholic podcast. This is David Walker. I am joined by my partner in Crime Genome Thomas. We're getting to know a little bit more about Gina in this getting to know writers podcasts. Gina I'm GonNa hit you with more questions. Was We wrap this one up for the day before the break? Ask You about your favorite all-time player in your favorite current player And now once you give me your top three so it could be mixed active Former players who were the three that if your teenage Gina Thomas you're GonNa put a poster of these three guys in your bedroom right next to that poster of new edition I law. I am so old that I guess knew this would work block. New Kids on the block would be. That's really what I had on my wall so top three time. I mean I've just said that. Roddy and Julio are my favorite past and current and I think I'm going to flip John Abraham in there Yeah those are all guys who obviously have played for the team. Since I became a fan I think that that it kind of limits may sound like I've interviewed Mike Ken. Before and I really really like him. Cy considered bad same thing with Jessie Tuggle But I wasn't really following the team when those guys played so I feel like that's disingenuous so I'm gonNA stick with those three guys. It's Abraham. I really liked that one because I feel like especially nowadays with this current Falcons team. We don't have that premier edge rusher since ABE was here right and it's easy to forget. Just how good. He was passed. But yes now. Granted the saints when he was here not GonNa Save William More would-be honorable mention. It's en it's all because of his William. Oh always read a rap like that. That alone was almost enough to sneak him into the top three. But I'M GONNA Save William. Oh my honorable mention. I like it I think he he always ends up on. Falcons highlights highlight reels with Z. Suplex body slam rams player when he hit like a truck. And I I if if I can add another honorable mention it's going to be Michael Turner and I will forever love him for literally throwing Eric. Rams into a defender making him block disgusting and amazing. It was hilarious. I loved it so okay so there. I've named enough players now. I'm bent the rules for this question. Our rules are sort of hazy. Best a flip the script a little bit. We've talked about players. Obviously those are the guys everyone thinks about. But I think that Falcons have actually had some colorful coaches over the end. Some very interesting coaches Obviously Dave mentioned Dan Reeves and his time here We've had Jim Mora by during no Mike Smith arguably helped turn this franchise around in two thousand eight. And we've got now Dan Quinn who I think you know despite the struggles has been seen as one of the most personal coaches so for you and I think this is interesting too because you've actually gotten to know two of these men at some level who the in your mind is the your favorite falcons coach. They don't even have to not favorite from a success standpoint or anything of that but just you know your own like you've liked to see these guys they resonate with you. Who is WHO's at the top of your list with Elkins someone to talk through this a little bit to explain it and I would say I spent an afternoon watching the early games last game in the Georgia. Dome prior to that But one against the saints. I watched that game. The early games lifting in Raves and his wife and I it was some four event and I was interviewing him and did some camera stuff for Ford with that and I just I absolutely loved him at we sat. I watched the cowboys. The cowboys were playing the eagles that day and so I sat and watched cowboys game with him and he was like asking me questions about it and talking to me like I was a person not some clueless lament which you'd be surprised especially with older. You probably wouldn't be surprised. Especially with older coaches. They kind of assume it's like you know Okay Sweetie so cute that you think you know about football by reince. Did Not talk to me like that. He talked to me like somebody that he expected. New the game because I work in the field and I just learned a lot from him like he. He is awesome. He is I can tell just from the afternoon that he's an incredible coach. Mike Smith is a very nice man and I like him very much but I guess I really have to go Sam clan. I know that this may not be a popular answer for a lot of Falcon stance. I Know Quinn pretty well and for the past couple of years especially as I started getting promoted at SP nation. You know Dan makes appoint coming talks me asking me about my job. We have a lot of conversations about effective leadership and mentoring people and you know helping to get the best out of people who report to you and so just from that perspective. I think that that's really Dan Strength. And I think that that's part of the reason that we saw the players rally behind him After the bye this year and so I have to say that he is the one that I have the best relationship with. And it's really because he you know he takes the time to actually care what is going on in my life and like talks to me about things that are relevant to me. I just he is a very genuine person and very easy to talk to. Yeah I always get a little frustrated because sometimes you know the interactions. We have with People who are fans of the team. They tend to have this impression of Dan. Quinn when they talk about his catchphrases in his energy in you know certainly when the team is winning. They're all about it but now that the team is has been struggling to pass two years. They sort of slammed him for being. This raw guy is if he's fake artificial and at least in my limited interactions have been camp a few times with you. You can tell this is legitimately who he is. There is no front. There's no faking. This man is he's just he's positive he cares about people. He has a legitimately good man. I want to see him succeed in Atlanta. Because of that. Because we've seen some bad coaches here and I know you and I have talked about that in the past. Just that he is legitimately a caring person like he. He does not have to come up to you like there's no cameras rolling. None of that's going on but he does. He checks in on on people randomly because he is just a good good personnel at the core Add want people to hear that because I feel like this season. If it doesn't go perfectly he is going to get burned alive and you know that's part of the NFL. It's not in this surprise but I don't want it to turn into a bashing him as a person because I do not think that that's fair. No I agree and yeah the. Nfl is not for long. Everybody knows that so. Dan will eventually make an exit You know if like you said if they don't trumping seasonable be sooner rather than later. But Dan Quinn will leave this franchise better than he found it All right let's talk about. This is interesting because they've had some pretty interesting zone. What you have to say here but One of the other things we get to see writing about this team is sort of under hyped players guys. Maybe that swept under the radar. And don't get the respect. They deserve and sometimes the opposite where fans get like religiously zealous about thinking this person's neck superstar in it doesn't turn out so in your mind. Let's start with the first. Who is the most underrated Falcon in recent years? Where maybe the fans didn't appreciate his much or whatever. Yeah he just didn't get the credit he deserved. It's Matt Ryan. I think it's it's absolutely Matt Ryan. I don't know why people say he has a noodle arm. I don't know why. They say that he can't win. The big game you know. They act like they're twenty two people Well actually thirty three. If you're counting special teams. You know who are responsible for the outcome of game. I mean Matt has been known to make some boneheaded mistakes like every quarterback does but he has been extremely extremely good for the Falcons. I mean he is exactly the kind of guy that you want us a franchise quarterback and I really don't think that fans appreciate that enough. I think that they I mean people act like quarterbacks grow on trees you know look around the league some of these teams that have been AC with quarterback decision and look at the positions that are in So yeah I think you know it. It probably sounds ridiculous because obviously he's paid very well. You know he is a he is. He's a a you know top tier player but I don't think that fans fully appreciate how his talent and what he's done for this team i. It's funny because I feel like you know. Two Thousand Sixteen. A lot of his critics were silenced. even two thousand seventeen. They started to come out a little bit but that season was so fluky and he still played really well and in two thousand eighteen. Put up numbers that were similar to two thousand sixteen. Which is mind boggling? When you think about it and I feel like last year. Two Thousand Nineteen. Some of his critics came trotting out of their rooms and they were kind of puffing up their chests because the interceptions in the rough start to the season. So yeah I think you're probably right. I think there's a long list but I think Desma True Font certainly fell on that list I agree with that. One too yeah So on the flip side who is a player or maybe players or position or something you think has been consistently overrated by fans where you're like. I don't get it I don't see why the excitement's there well I don't think any of us knew at the time but I'd say that Ray Edwards may have turned out even most overrated. Fire that they. They signed an instagram model underwear model. Oh my God forbid. He couldn't even make it through a full season. I mean that's I was so that they landed him. I was so excited and I was so ready for him to just come in and rip shit up and then now he was absolutely terrible. So yeah that was a stunning stunning David talked we. I think we settled on any training camp wide receiver. Oh Gosh yeah or Jonathan Masekela. He's Donovan Mask. While remember when everybody was so mad that they weren't playing him. I was on that list. Yeah but that was also at the time where we literally had nobody so it was like. Hey we made out. We may as well throw garbage out there. Even the burning garbage via speedy reading Freddie Martino a bunch of guys who went on the play for the Bucks Man. The bucks is like the. Nfl's island toys for the Falcons. Oh my God really a bunch of retreads. Yes that's hysterical. They're Atlanta Atlanta south. The most gratifying win in your time watching her cheering for this team. So it has to be a falcons when correct okay. Because if not I was going to say I was going to rank them in order like Minnesota Miracle. Okay so I would say in that in that. Same Vein There too that combine mediates minds a couple years ago. I think that it was the super bowl season but it might have been two thousand seventeen. No I think it was the super bowl season when it was Thursday night. Football and the Falcons beat the saints and drew brees threw interception of Dion Jones and the end zone. And right before that you know Champagnes on the sidelines. Making the choking motion at Devante Freeman and then drew brees. Choke the game away like that was deeply satisfying. I was watching that in a bar with the neighbors and the place was shaking when that happened because everybody was screaming and jumping up and down like it was amazing and then I would say the second most especially in light of how bad falcons word this year beating the saints on the road was like one of the greatest days my life and that is also the day that I got engaged so I mean literally one of the greatest as my life. Chris proposed in me because I was already so happy about it. So yeah I would. It's hard for me to narrow down. I guess I gotta go with the one that I got engaged and like I said there were so few bright spots in the first half of this last season and that one was just an absolute joy. Yeah it's funny. I think in that context but in the midst of a dark season beating the saints on the road certainly was like peak. Disappointing the saints Which is always going to be a good day. All right on the flip side. We all know what the most devastating losses. That's clear. So how hard did twenty eight three hits you at stories. Do you have of that? I feel like now. There's enough distance between twenty three. And today where we can all talk about a little bit almost like a a traumatic event. So what was that? Like for you in the wake of when it happened and even the week after so at that time I was covering the Falcons full-time I was know at the facility. Every single day and the locker remember single day I was still every game You know all of that kind of stuff and so I was very close esteem. I had various close relationships throughout the Locker Room with the coaching staff. And then I was disappointed that they chose to send staff writers from ESPY NATION TO HOUSTON. And not me. Because I was I was covering the NFL full-time for us the nation at the time. Instead they sent me in our news desk team to Washington. Dc To our offices there and it was me and my friend and colleague. Harry Lyles Junior. Who also writes freshly Nathan and were He. He lives in Atlanta too. And we're both Falcon stance and so our friend Kofi who was doing social frustration that time peaking his head around the corner and he's like why do you guys still nervous like you're winning by twenty five points from we're like have you ever seen this team play like we cannot be comfortable till this is over and so at least what. We started to get to the point around half time like. I think that it was maybe right at that. Alford pick sex because Harry and I were both like we're going to get that printed on a canvas hang in our respective house respective houses like I was. I was googling at the half like where to buy this canvas like I was ready to go. And so then we all know how it went from there and So covering the covering the Super Bowl's lot work you know usually when we're on site and DC. You're up until three in the morning. Filing follow up stories and that sort of thing when I covered the super bowl here in Atlanta same thing. I was sitting in my hotel four. Am that year. I think so. It's a it's a long night and obviously it was longer game because it went to overtime and I held it together until the clock at zero and I told my editor Sarah. I'm like I need two minutes and went into the bathroom and I cried for two minutes and then I came out of the bathroom and then my friend Chris Spearman will stay in there with a huge Lhasa. Why and I was like thank goodness so then I've just turned it off went back to work And then I went back to my hotel and I listened to break up music and leg. Ride tweeted about how sad I was blocked. A bunch of saints fans who didn't even say anything that bad by just couldn't deal with at most two like literally break up. Music. It was written. It's ridiculous in hindsight but I cannot overstate how crushing that was. And the fact we've still got to hear jokes about it comes up almost every game broadcast. They even talk about it sometimes in the xfl during. Ainsley it's ridiculous. And so yeah I mean it's it's never a good thing to have your team beyond the wrong and the worst loss in super bowl history but Yeah that's what I was doing and it hit me very very hard. I mean I've I've I leaned into making fun of it as a coping mechanism. Which is how I deal with my emotions general but yeah it was not fun. None of US enjoyed it arable. Yeah I think I think at one point I actually messed Dave and it's like I don't know if I can read about Stephen Anymore and I think actually took a couple of months off and finally came back ins like okay. The darkness is just a part of my soul. Now yes I think it is. True with Oliver's spoi- you know the the Nice thing is that this team can never hurt us again some free. I cannot get upset about anything this team does. It will not be as bad as one eight race exactly like that. Scratch my arm. It's nothing compared to being impaled through my kids so last question before we wrap this one up whether your thoughts to close this one out. On the current Falcons regime. I'm talking all the way at the top. You Know Arthur blank rich McKay Dmitrov Dan Quinn whether your thoughts in this regime and whether your hopes for the twenty twenty season I think Arthur blank is a good owner and I think that the team is lucky to have him I think that I actually think that he was correct to retain Dan. Quinn and maybe not Dmitrov. I really have not. I think since two thousand eight seen clear evidence that Dmitrov not to draft worth a damn specially positions on both lines. I think are his blind spots. And so you know I've got concerns. They are but I think that the way. The players rallied in the second. Half of the season to keep Quinn from getting fired bodes well for next season ends. I think it says a lot about Quinn as a leader and as a coach so I'm glad that he is round. I don't really know what this new deal for rich. Mckay looks like I don't know how much more he'll be involved with the day to day Operation Stuff. I mean obviously he's got experience as a a GM but there's a reason that he is team president and not GM anymore. And so I'd like I said like I've got a whole lot of questions about that. Whole thing In terms of talent that they have on the roster we just have so many positions of need right now only so many resources to work with to fill those areas of me and so I'm pretty anxious about it because the thing is Dan Quinn. Can you know coach circles around any other coach? League? But if he doesn't have the talent to execute what is coaching them to do. They're not going to be good. And so you know if they can't keep Matt Ryan up right if they can't create way insulin running game if they can't tackle without whipping on everybody fifty times before somebody finally brings down the ball carrier They're gonNA be terrible again and so they just have a lot like a a huge amount that they need to improve upon and a lob talent that they need to add to be competitive and I have questions about how they're going to make that happen so it's I'm glad that they retained Clinton. It is hard for me to be optimistic about the team before what we see what they do afraid who say which. They really can't afford to do anything and what they do in the draft. Yeah I think it's going to be a critical year across the board. We're going to need as you mentioned. We Burgundy Dmitrov to nail the draft in free agency. Whatever they could do there so certainly going to be another interesting season at ten alcoholic dot com so Gina. This was awesome. 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The Dimitroff Years: 2008

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The Dimitroff Years: 2008

"The alcohol podcast official podcasts. At the falcons on. Espn podcast network. This is david walker. Today's special podcast. A review dmitrov years with the atlanta falcons helping with this task of invited a special guest joining each of these upsets as we break trades free agent signings draft picks made in dmitrov era. My guest. today is the falco hollick himself. Of course we have to start off two thousand and eight with one only dave dave. Thanks for joining me. I'm happy to be here and relive glory ears. Two thousand eight was certainly a glory year. So let's talk quickly about what took us into this pivotal season for the atlanta falcons. The first under head coach. Mike smith and new general manager. Thomas dmitrov obviously the two thousand seven season was the disaster where mike vick was convicted for dogfighting. Bobby pacino. left in the middle of the year. the falcons went four and twelve ended up with a top three pick And the franchise frankly was in shambles. It was one of the most devastating seasons. I believe in falcons history and even with vic many people were not many fans were not ready to fully move on from him as talk started. Drumming up that the falcons could consider a quarterback mainly matt ryan being the number one quarterback in that draft class. There was a lot of talk amongst falcons fans that they did not need to look at quarterback yet. That vick would be out of prison in the near future and that they could restart the franchise with him at the helm so before we get into that particular discussion which is certainly fueled with a lot of opinions including some day that you had at the time. I do wanna talk about free agency because coming in before we even get to the draft the falcons i think it's fair to say blew up the roster and they blew it up in a pretty dramatic fashion. I was going through in preparation for this podcast. I was going through the the names of guys. Who the falcons let go. I in who they signed in that free agency period and is a an extensive list. So dave i'm just gonna hit you with some of the departures. I want to start first with with these names because honestly some of this was you know. Maybe even stunning in in hindsight Some of the key departures weather the first names. I two names that pop to mind titan algae grumbler who had spent his career with atlanta They released running back. Work done Who is still part. Owner in the falcons franchise They traded away Former number-one pick dangelo hall to oakland for two thousand eight second round. Pick and two thousand nine fifth round pick. So let's just start there with those departures looking back. Did you feel like those were moves that the team had to make in letting go some of these veterans that maybe they were associated with past regimes that they wanted to move on from. Yeah i think. The algae crump Bummed me out Aside from jessie tuggle. At the time. I definitely would have told you that priority. Algae chrysler was my favorite falcon So seeing him go. While i understood it. Yeah not really stunk. But i also. I did understand. I think when we had a new gm coming in and when we had a new coach coming in that this was going to happen. Because you have to remember how ugly and dispiriting two thousand seven was like at the time you know. The phallic was pretty young. That was really my first full season covering this. I was like twenty three years old A lot more resilient. Probably than than i am now not as broken down But even then it was. It was just an insane season. You know you. You had your franchise quarterback guy that i loved and i think the whole fan base was behind you know even if things were frustrating in michael vick. You had the quarterback carousel that year between byron. Left which joey harrington in. Chris redman There just wasn't much on that roster aside from a few pieces on defense and roddy white emerging in two thousand seven happily the made you feel good about where they were going. So i think you know yes it kinda got blown up in yes. There were some players. I loved getting released but even at the time you know i think if i went back and looked at it i would have been upset but not enrage the way i would be like. They traded julio jones or matt ryan right. Now you know it just. It was clear that this team after the stink of betrayal and everything had to do something radically different and so those moves were were understood. They were part of the price of business and difficult. Although i think after two thousand seven as you mentioned i don't know that anyone was clinging tightly. He players at that point With the stench of that season on all the guys who were on the roster. I did hate seeing algae crumple ago. And obviously the falcons would fix that a year later when they traded for tony gonzales. Certainly but at the time tough to see him Even be forced to move on some of the other names that departed. You mentioned the quarterbacks byron left. Which and joe harrington were both released allowed to walk tackle wayne gandy Was another named defensive tackle. Rod coleman offensive jimmy williams. You know so again. Just just a plethora of guys who were starters or at least rotational players were just set sent packing Some of the guys they kept. Chris redmond who. Actually i think for a few years was looking back was probably a good move. He was a reliable backup He did end up playing a couple games in two thousand nine with matt ryan got injured. So you probably equality resigning there. And then they retained the tikal tackle tyson. Klebo who on the right side ended up being one of our offensive linemen for several years. So any of those names debut touch on as well as we look towards the free agent signings next. Yeah i think part of the reason that that got off to such a good start was because the falcons really did something that i think they. They consistently failed to do later on in their tenure. Which is your. It's different two players right. It's very hard to say. These guys need to go or you know. These guys are really valuable guy. Just your vision gets clouded by that but at the time they looked at klebo in particular i think a guy who had started eleven games in two thousand seven Had had four false start penalties. I'm just looking at this now But saw enough there in twenty six year old tackle to say maybe this guy can be an affordable starter for us and not only was he an affordable starter for them but he did not miss a game over the next. I think five seasons in atlanta so like that was an absolutely spot on re-signing for them keeping tyson klebo around. Then you know you. You mentioned redmond to. He was a really consistent. Backup for them. You know he I think had a for at least not a negative touchdown to interception ratio during his time in atlanta both as a part time starter in two thousand seven and then as backup to ryan and they really have been chasing. I think ever since. I sure would probably qualifies the better their quarterback here but for a long time there they just did not have that guy behind ryan So you know these are. These are relatively low. Impact moves klebo. Obviously it was a bigger deal because he did end up being such a consistent starter for so long but when you come in and this is what the next regime is going to have to do in atlanta and twenty twenty one. You can't just it all out you have to say who are the guys that are going to be contributors for us and one of the things. That's exciting about that to me. Is you might have a case where the new guys come in. And they do something that was able to do in two thousand eight. And mike smith was able to do and say you know these guys were overlooked. Maybe a little bit in the past regime where they we might have gotten to them. A little bit late But they can be quality contributors for us so we need to. We need to keep them around and make sure that happens. And i don't know who those guys will be but that's absolutely critical to getting back on your feet. I think they mailed in two thousand eight and again as we are looking at this from the standpoint of reviewing thomas dmitrov in the job he did. I think you look just what we've already talked about free agency and in hindsight all these moves made a ton of sense and in many ways he nailed it across the board with these guys so now i to talk about some of the players they signed because honestly i think this is where a again you can look at two thousand eight in my opinion as being just a banner year to kick off This new revamped franchise with what they did obviously in the draft which will get to but the signings in free agency. I thought were a home run and before we get to the most obvious name on the coverage is three players. The most insignificant is probably tied-in been heart sock. You know he came in. He was a blocking tight end. He he did a little bit while he was here. Sort of a inconsequential name. But they brought in safety. Eric coleman Veteran a kicker jason Who i believe was a key. Kicker in some of those Fourth quarter comebacks. Matt ryan would become known for his rookie year But the biggest name. I think barnen was easily running back. Michael turner He was a backup to ladainian tomlinson. for his first four years league he looked the part at least when he got chances with the chargers and we signed him in and i would argue to this day that he is probably the best free agent. Signing the falcons made in the past twenty five years. So i wanna get your take on these players. Obviously cohen less so part. Sock coleman elon. But especially michael turner. What's your take on the job. Dmitrov did in sort of nailing some of these key free agents. I think again. He never really got back to that right. I think the first free agent class was brilliant. And i think that what the falcons did that they failed to do since then is taken under. You know recognized asset in michael turner. A guy who didn't wear and tear on had looked really good in san diego certainly would have gotten snapped up by somebody based on the work he had done but you know really decided that they could with coaching staff that they were bringing in install ineffective game with a guy who again didn't have much in the way of tread on his tires and had a lot of promise was pretty young and they identified that guy and they went out and signed him and turner was an absolutely brilliant signing. And i think if you look at the signings for stephen jackson or even todd gurley this year like these guys that were big names and for one reason or another maybe their very best years were already behind them with turner. It was clear that you know his best years. Were ahead of. We could not have known how good he was going to be. There was just no way anyone could have known that even to metro but was a super savvy signing and it was necessary because the falcons didn't have enough running back and even if they had kept work done it wouldn't have had enough running back to support matt ryan is. He grew and they knew they needed that. And so those signings the signings of coleman who is an effective player for a little bit another savvy veteran signing and then elam who the wheels fell off of entirely you know a year later but was really good in two thousand eight. These were just like the falcons came into the year. And you know no one would have blamed them. Arthur blank certainly wouldn't blame them if they come in and been a bad team again. you know. that's the price of rebuilding. But that's not what they wanted to do. And i think again with the free agent signings that was the best example of dmitrov taking stock of what he had in front of him. And then trying to fill those holes in a way that was both forward-looking and let's take care of this right now. And i think the shame of what came after that as good as some of these draft classes for as good as the occasional free agent signing was there was never anything that cohesive again you know. He came in with such a good plan and carried the falcons along way But yeah that that to me. Turner was definitely the defining free agent signing for dmitrov. And and just a brilliant move. It really was. I i think again who could have seen that coming from them because for wrong but i believe turner led the league in rushing into thousand eight. I mean he was a sixteen hundred plus yards made a pro bowl like just a home run of of free agent signing. Yeah oh and that's the thing too is like he was so good and mike malarkey was absolutely at the time. The ray coordinator the offense it started out. It was willing to run turner into the ground. And i think the only thing unfortunately with turner's he did run them into the ground and by twenty eleven like it was clear that he was slowing down. But you know those first two or three years for him were just glorious. I've never. I've never seen a year again. From the falcons running back as good as some of them have been like two thousand eight. That was just. That was bonkers. I think jamal anderson's ninety. Eight is the only season. That really competes with that. And i think most people look back and they will credit this signing with helping to ease matt ryan into the nfl because we we lose track of it now with the nfl. Quarterbacks drafted they're expected to play immediately. Especially if it's a first round pick back then. It was somewhat rare for a rookie quarterback to come in and be the starter on day. One and i think we forget. That and ryan came in the falcons just like you said they had such a great plan for taking the load off of his shoulders to minimize what he had to do in the offense so that they could ease him into the nfl. And i think that became sort of a new standard for other teams across the nfl. How to ease a rookie into that very very difficult position I would say that the the reason we've seen matt ryan have as much success as he has had in. The league is due in part to that particular signing that helped to anchor the offense in his rookie year. So we're gonna get into the two thousand eight draft class next and this is certainly as we just talked about with matt ryan certainly one of the most pivotal ones in the metro air. But before we do that we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. This is advertiser content. We now have two point. Three million people incarcerated in america less than seven percent of them are incarcerated for violent crime. That's attorney geoffrey. 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For this atlanta falcons franchise so dave first half. We talked about free agents. That's only one half of the equation. If you're going to have success in the nfl it comes down to what you do in the draft. And maybe more importantly than anything. Many gm's will hit on numerous numerous picks. But until you get that first position cemented the quarterback position you can hit on a bunch of picks and still flame out as gm. So let's talk about this two thousand eight draft class. It's certainly starts at the top in the first round with the third pick. The atlanta falcons took matt ryan quarterback out of boston college. It seems so long ago and yeah that was just twelve years looking back. The two guys win in front of him. Tackle jake long. Who went to miami who had a decent career and Defensive end chris long who went to seattle he actually. He had a pretty long in in good career in the nfl as well. But i think bar looking at the first round draft class. There is no player who had as good a career across the board of any of these guys. The matt ryan So talk about the matt ryan. Pick what you felt about it at the time and looking back how you feel about it now at the time it was So here i get to do favors thing which is open myself up for ridicule over and over again so i was glenn dorsey enthusiast at the time. That was my guy at defensive tackle. And i looked at the falcons defense. That was like what they could really use. Is somebody to pair with jonathan babbo You know try to create. The foundation for a dominant defensive line was already. I think pretty clear at that point that jamal anderson was probably not gonna work out but i was like give them the help. Let's see what happens. And i was one of those people that thought you know you could wait for joe flacco. You could if you really wanted to wait for brian brom or chad henny and and you know maybe really worry about getting your next quarterback You know a little bit down the line in favor of dorsey and part of the reason. I thought that at times because matt ryan was the local guy you know he was on. Tv a lot near me. Because he was quarterback for boston. College and i had seen some of his decision making and at times i was. I was just not impressed by it. I was like a good player. But he's gonna throw. I think too many interceptions and make too many shaky decisions in the pros so that was where i landed on. That was don't do it. Get glenn dorsey get jake long. Shore up the lines built from the inside out worry about quarterback in the future. It obviously didn't take me long to figure out that was wrong about that. One very little time at all ryan was obviously impressive right out of the gate and then has cemented himself as not only the best quarterback in falcons history but he will go down as a hall of fame caliber player whether he makes it or not. So that was. That was the master stroke and i think it seems so easy now to have to remember that he got picked number three. You know that he did not go to a quarterback in eighty team. In front of the falcons. Sometimes these decisions aren't slam dunks. And sometimes you have regrets about the way things went years later. Even with the choice of the quarterback you pick. I think the bears would trubisky is a classic example of falling in love with the wrong guy and talking yourself into somebody who maybe isn't the right. Pick so for the falcons to stick to their guns and say ryan's guy again. We're going to build this team to make him successful as quickly as possible. You know that. That's an approach that has borne a lot of fruit. It's never gotten the falcons quite where we want them to go but it was clearly the right i pick in in remains the defining pick really of the entire era for thomas dimitrov. Yeah and i think you will be forgiven the multitude of sins as gm. If you get the quarterback pick correct and ultimately i think in many ways that is what happened with the falcons because as we go into future years. I think we've talked about this at the alcoholic but there were several draft classes under mike smith and dmitrov that were just absolutely terrible for for one reason or another sometimes injuries play a huge factor in that and sometimes it's just picks themselves but you have a quarterback here who literally without his fourth quarter comebacks in the mike smith. Years with the team would have never had a winning record I told someone that statistic Recently and there were stunned but even in the thirteen and three season of two thousand and ten matt ryan had six fourth quarter comebacks. You take those away. And that's a seventy nine team. And that shows just how much of an impact having that that one pick can make on an entire franchise indeed for more than a decade. And we're still in many ways benefiting from it or adversely benefit from it. Because the team continues to win maybe playing themselves out of premier stock position for the draft but l. Here we are nother pick in the first round. For the falcons in a feel like this one is going to get some fans lit up because they traded up to get this guy and he does not have a great reputation with falcons fans the twenty first pick in the first round sam. Baker left tackle. Se in just reference. I do wanna point out in fair or not. Fair dwayne brown would go. Several picks later to houston in obviously brown between him and baker had the much better career of the two guys. Dave told me about sam baker whether your takes on him in the falcons really going up to get him. It was a huge mistake. I it was. It was an obvious mistake. Maybe not right. At the moment. I think the hesitation was the team choosing to trade up to get him and you know i know they were looking for that. Long term. Blindside protector from at ryan. Baker had enough question marks. That i don't think he was the guy that you should have traded up for. I think that if you look back at that draft class and how things went down I think the falcons got a little bit jumpy. That they were going to lose their shot because not only did jake longo right at the top of the draft but ryan cloudy. Chris williams gusta chair less jeff. Ota these guys all went between You know the first in nineteen th pick so that run on tackles had already kind of happened and so you were left with. I think either baker or dwayne brown. And i think the falcons you know. Maybe it's easier to say in hindsight. I think if i remember correctly i like brown better at the time. But don't quote me on that. Because i'm probably wrong You know at the time the falcons felt like they were not going to get that tackle and they were going to expose. You know matt ryan to an absolute beating without one so that it was a little bit of a panic trade. I think you know. We've seen how tom Dmitrov got with trading up over the years. And i think this is just a classic example of him identifying need being afraid that need was going to go unmet and making the move. He felt he needed to to get up there. And i think when you look back on baker's career it's fair to wonder if he would have been better had he not been hurt. The only played eight games his very first year and he played. I think full sixteen game seasons. I mean his twenty. Twelve season was brilliant. It was actually a great season But everything else in between there there were issues here and there but i think he was a pretty solid tackle. I think it was defensible. Trade up to get him. It's just kind of a shame. It didn't work in that. In the end you know. Especially after he got his big contract he just was not the same guy and he was not out there a lot. And i think he played nine games as final two seasons. So you know maybe the right move time wrong. Guy in retrospect and even at the time probably but it's hard to blame the in a lot of ways for not wanting to get matt ryan killed immediately entering into the league like it came from a good place that that trade. I think it did. Yeah i think the move made sense and as you mentioned. It's probably a good bit of hindsight to argue between baker and dwayne brown. I don't know that there was a massive consensus. The brown was better. I think it was probably split. In the falcons certainly thought they saw something in baker and as you mentioned injuries are sometimes you can't predict that and it does have an equalizing effect across all franchises for better for worse. All right second round. This is interesting. Because i feel like this player was i don't know i i'll have to get your opinion on this. A curtis lofton at number thirty seven. Pick linebacker olive oklahoma. He obviously didn't last with the franchise as long as many people thought he would. But i would argue for several years time. He was here. He's actually a quality starter and they clearly drafted him to ultimately replace keith brooking. Who would depart after the two thousand eight season. So what are your thoughts on. Curtis lofton in the draft pick itself and his time in atlanta. That was a a no brainer to me. I like lofton pick at the time. I liked lofton throughout his tenure in atlanta. I think he's just one of those weirdly forgotten guys now. You know when. I think about linebackers putting together like the best of the last decade. Listen and stuff. I always was surprised to see lofton's name. Even though he started almost every game for the four years he was in atlanta and he had gobs tackle several big plays That twenty eleven season by him was terrific. One of the better ones. In recent memory for a falcons linebacker and who's a great fit for what mike smith wanted to do on defense so i think that was a really savvy pick. I think curtis lofton was good underrated player. And i think it's kind of telling that the falcons had so much trouble for so long linebacker after he left. I think it was a mistake to let him go. I'm not saying that you know he would have rescued that defense. I don't think there was anybody. That was gonna rescue. That defense. Under mike smith But yeah that was another. I thought a great picks filled a need and he ended up being equality starter for four years which you know We've seen a lot of second round picks in atlanta not. Go that way over time. Absolutely some of the other names in that second round That standout players that you know the falcons may have had an opportunity to get running back matt forte wide receiver. Sean jackson defensive at campbell. see her and running back ray. Rice some good names in there. But i think in looking at the needs at the time curtis lofton to made a ton of sense and his plan atlanta justified where he went so again. I think another solid pick But as we get into these later rounds this is going to get interesting and this is i. Think the if there is a strong criticism for dmitrov in in his draft classes. It's that the middle rounds tended to be wildly erratic in the hit rate especially under mike smith. I think we actually saw more success under quin than a under smith but this was the first time as we get into the mid rounds so third-round sixty eight pick. The falcons took chevy's jackson cornerback. State actually had three picks in this round. So i'll rather all three these off real quick Number eighty four. Took harry douglas wide receiver out of louisville. Who went to jones high school here in georgia and the number ninety eighth pick they took thomas day cooed. Safety of the california to those names. Jump out. I think for good reasons jackson. I think anyhow so let's look at these three third round picks What's your feeling about the qualities the quality of these guys and how they may have ultimately worked out whether to metro did a good job with this particular third round. I think by and large he did. I think you know. Douglas in decor guys. That aren't maybe as remembered. Remember it as fondly as they might have otherwise been. I think they do got a reputation as somebody who was not in love with contact and was a little mouthy certainly a little bit sensitive to criticism at times but he was a quality safety in for multiple years. And i think that that gets lost in that. I think he made a pro bowl probably twenty twelve. I feel like that's when everybody made their pro bowls He ended up starting the majority of the games for atlanta Over the course of six seasons like that's that's nothing to sneeze at. We've seen what's happened to the falcons. Unfortunately with injury safety in recent years you know my favorite player or anything. And i think he certainly had his miscues along the way. But the falcons were fairly decent bend. But don't break defense for long time there and i think that the decor was part of the reason for that so not like he was a good pick. Harry douglas obviously you know a guy that again think it's incredible that he spent how many seasons in atlanta Six zero through two thousand thirteen. Yes oh six seasons any scored eight touchdowns like you wanna talk about. Julio not scoring touched has its same But you know he. He was a reliable contributor of just an audience. Ask for the first three years of his career. You know a guy who who certainly got the job done was pretty sure. Handed was willing to block when you needed him to. But then obviously in two thousand thirteen with all the injuries he had kind of that breakout year where he was matt. Ryan's big target and fared pretty. Well that year and then he did pretty well the year after two so by and large he had a good career for third rounder. He was a productive receiver for six years in atlanta. That's nothing to sneeze at again if you get guys beyond the first contract and they're they're contributing at a fairly high level. That's that's a big deal to me third round or later especially and then chivas jackson I don't know what happened to him. Exactly up trying to remember if he was hurt or why he washed out but you know he played in his first year. He only started one game but he had a ninety five yard. Interception return for a touchdown play. I remember really fondly. Five pass deflections heat to me. First season he looked like a potential quality contributor and then he kinda got mothballed the next year and then he was gone so. I'm not entirely sure what happened with jackson. I think defensible given that at the time you know. He seemed to be kind of that. Big physical corner the falcons needed and eventually we try to replace with robinson and guys like that but obviously didn't work out. I big miscue draft. Miscue of the fat thomas dmitrov era Not the last one third round up by a long shot in fact it felt like for awhile there. The third round was became his achilles heel of of all the mid rounds So fifth round the falcons actually did not have a fourth round pick in this draft class believe they traded out of it The fifth round at one eight actually had to in the fifth round this well at one thirty eight. It took robert. James linebacker out of arizona state and then number one fifty four infamous name if you will In falcons history croix building defensive and other montana defensive end slash safety. So what's interesting about. Robert james dave as well as look at it this. This guy stayed on the roster for like five years in. I don't think ever actually did anything. Except he played mostly on special teams. He was one of those guys that sort of got buried by smitty onto special teams Obviously the more notable name here risk roy bearman who actually did end up having a long career with the falcons relatively long all things considered so. What are your thoughts on these players. How the fifth round played-out well james's guy who especially because i did not spend a lot of time and energy on special teams and breaking down snap counts and stuff. Early on in the falcons. And so you know i think some of his contributions they are probably got overlooked by myself and other members of the fan base because of that was a contributor on special teams Especially you know in in twenty twelve however joke with him used to be. He must have something on mike smith because he just was there and he was always there he was always making it in the last linebacker spot in you could never point to a game and say he definitely did something but i look back on it now to have this up in front of me and he only played one game in two thousand nine two thousand eleven in two thousand thirteen so we really only contributed on special teams in two thousand twelve so you you can't explain that to me. Maybe he was a great locker room guy. Maybe he did have pictures this video. Whatever it was robert. James was obviously a wis. You know he was a west. Mike thomas dmitrov and there were there. Were whiffs let's be honest. You know there were whiffs. Plural in this draft class for biermann was not one of them. Bearman is a guy who i firmly believe. Had he not been thrust into a full-time starting role. Because of the falcons own personnel failures. You know to get guys who were better than roy bearman so he could just be rotational defensive lineman he would be remembered very fondly today in the same way that i think a guy like kamala schmil is mostly remembered fondly today because he rarely got overexposed he had one stretch ishmail where he was a starter for abedin's okay but mostly he was just a guy who had a knack for making a big plays a backup and was a key special teamer and biermann did everything he was asked to do. He's something ridiculous like in the top. Ten all time for saks. For the falcons which is nuts But versing in suppressing very depressing but he was the guy who he would do anything you asked him including play safety occasionally from like nolan picked one game if anybody remembers that he did kickoffs and that was that was who he was he was just a guy that like dmitrov looking for you know a chesapeake type defender they. They liked his versatility. They said that. Kind of in the pre-draft process. I remember for him and he came in and he was exactly what they needed him to be. He just got over exposed to this fan base and they kinda hated him because he was not a great player but he was playing starter snaps. Even other just wasn't an alternative. At least one that mike smith was willing to use so i think unfortunately he's more famous than he should be for a guy who you know. I think like day coup really if we're talking about that Played pretty well on balance the entire time he was here and certainly for a fifth round pick was tremendous value. I think we lose sight of that. Because in recent history. We've got greg jarett in the fifth round and that is exceedingly rare. Not just for the falcons. But for most nfl franchises you generally do not find a future pro bowler or all pro player at any position in the fifth round. It is exceedingly rare. There is a reason. These guys are going in the v. Six seventh rounds. It's not because these teams are all dumb and they can't see it's generally because these guys are not projected to be you know really really good players at the next level and biermann i felt like outperformed his draft status on whole And that's what you want. That's what you want from. Gm is for him to find quality throughout all the rounds In some form or fashion the rest of the draft class. For two thousand eight a was inconsequential. Run through real quick. But we don't have to cover these six round. They took thomas brown running back. George he never even made the roster seventh round. they took Fund not i believe is how you pronounce it quarterback out of arizona he never made the roster and in the two hundred thirty second pick was keith zinger titan louisiana state i think he played fifteen games completely inconsequential So now that we've gone through this draft class looking back on it as a whole. What is your overall assessment of the first draft class under thomas dmitrov i think on balance. Obviously it was. It was the transformative draft class. You got matt ryan. Who is the greatest quarterback in franchise. History still going a major reason. They were in a position to win as many games as they did over the last decade. You got curtis lofton sam. Baker thomas kuhn croix bearman. You know who were all key contributors and you've got all of them in the second round or later and yes. I think as we saw regularly in the mike smith era. In particular the falcons late. You know thomas brown got hurt. I think that's why he didn't make it. But you know they just wasted picks on guys who didn't end up contributing and that was partly a function of think how. Mike smith used young players but nonetheless it that kind of set the stage. I think in a lot of ways. For the waves the falcons with draft going forward which is they tended to nail those early picks unless injury took a bite out of parade. Jerry or sean weatherspoon down the line or something like that. But they did struggle in the middle rounds later Not always you know. He had plenty of good picks in there. But that's kind of housing's proceeded so when you look at it on balance i think you know the only other draft class. It really belongs in. the same. Conversation is probably two thousand. Sixteen the falcons under detriot this. This was the one that set the falcons up to do everything they did from there on out and i think if if you think that you know they had bungled this draft class right we would just be another basement-dwelling team we would have been this entire time in all the angst in worry that we've had over you know this team good enough to do acts or you know. I can't believe they lost in the super bowl. Just never would have happened at all so it really was the transformative class and despite its blemishes you gotta give the team a ton of credit for getting that one right as much as they did. And i think in hindsight and arguably part of this is because the falcons don't have particularly good franchise history but this draft class easily in my mind. Cements dmitrov is the best. Gm the falcons have had now. That certainly can change with whoever they bring in next. But i think it's hard to argue that the guy who brought in the franchise quarterback who has very legitimate shot of ending up in hall of fame Who helped to take this team to the championship games in one super bowl who helped build that roster over time that he was anything other than the best. Gm that this team has had and that's with having just walked away from him in nose. Sometimes it's hard to look at the success in the past. But would you agree. Dave that despite the way things have finished dmitrov deserves that recognition. It's especially in the light of what he didn't do thousand eight. There's no question. And i think you know the fact. That obviously the falcons to not have a lot of great gm's before dmitrov really shouldn't take away from the fact that he consistently presided over a team that was competitive and was really good. The the most successful it's ever been in. Its history for sustained time and yes. He is obviously the best. Gm in history. I think probably moving on with the right move in that a fresh perspective help. We'll know that that's all in the future. But there's a reason you know despite all of our frustrations with the way. This team missed Pass rushers it's spotty free agency track record beyond two thousand eight and all that He was the best executive. they've had There's no question that he was that without two thousand eight and without dmitrov specifically presiding over two thousand eight everything that preceded from there Never happens as i before. And you know if you're somebody who's kind of still scarred from the super bowl. And what if i had never had to experience that maybe that's a bad but If you look at this team success over the last decade plus. There's no question that he did. He set that up. He was the guy who made this happen. And i think as time goes on as was the case would like smith who i think is a lot more appreciated now than he was in two thousand fifteen People will look back onto mitch roth and say you know on balance you know. He did a really good job. I think he did. You know it's if they just come a little bit close from super bowl in one. And i think his place would be cemented forever. But unfortunately we don't live in that particular world so we're stuck talking about hundred two thousand once indeed. You mentioned a few things. I i'll use this as a precursor upcoming episodes Some of the trends that showed in this draft class the missing and in the mid to late rounds And then the trading up going after guys giving up draft capital to do that. I think these are two things that he identified about him. Serve self early on which would ultimately come back and a bite. The falcons on a few occasions. But on whole i think this two thousand eight season and i want to remind people that going from four and twelve to eleven five with a rookie quarterback at that time was completely unheard of it was one of the biggest turnarounds of any franchise in any sport ever and i remember that two thousand eight season people were talking about how incredibly notable. It was at the falcons from literally a a bottom of the league team to being in the playoffs. The next year with a rookie quarterback who would win rookie of the year An executive who would win of the year and the roster that got completely rebuilt and immediately banned. Begin to compete. You don't see that as much these days. And i think it deserves the recognition that we're giving it so dave any final thoughts on the two thousand eight season where thomas to metropolis time in atlanta. Yeah i you know. Obviously like i said i think we were kind of ready for everything to change at the end of last year and the team to bring in the new. Gm and coach. They'll finally be doing in twenty twenty one but you know he should be appreciated. And i do appreciate everything that he did for the franchise in. I think we'll always be able to look back at two thousand eight and see you know a guy come in to a new franchise and really install a whole new team. You know using a mix of free agency draft and things were on hand. And i i just think that kind of job is amazing in hindsight especially and given what happened after he got established. It was harder to take a critical look at the roster. Maybe but it was a it was a tour de force type of thing and if nothing else you know getting matt ryan out of it was a big big deal. So i'd love to be able to go back and relive two thousand eight from start to finish and realize how special that was. And then yelich keith. Brooking oh definitely definitely pay one of the most painful incidences. I can recall of that season so dave. Thank you for joining us to kick off the series reviewing the metro years in atlanta. Won't you tell our listeners where they can find you and what we have going on. Don't you can find me at the falcons on twitter. He can find all of us at the falcon hollick dot com and this week It's a little bit of a long leading up to the denver broncos game so we're taking a look at all the midseason awards we should be handing out midseason snap counts trying to look forward to getting ready for that last game before the by against the denver broncos and seeing one of the outcomes third win of the season or closer to seventy nine oh inevitable s for me guys on twitter at. Dwi updates on this podcast pep talk pod and of course articles daily at dot com so for dave show itself. This is david. Were thinking guys talk with you next.

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REShow: Michelle Monaghan. Hour 2 (01-03-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Michelle Monaghan. Hour 2 (01-03-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one sports net reduction available on Apple podcast and podcast one. It's the greatest time of the year. You're in sports. Nfl College football MLB NBA and NHL. What else can a sports fan as for? All the action you want is every day at fun place and one place only online dot. Ag Sign up today for a free account at online DOT AG. Use Promo Code podcast. One for your fifty percent or not welcome. Bonus don't sit on the sidelines anymore. Get in on all this incredible Actionaid Bet online dot. Ag That's Bet online dot ag your online sportsbook experts out to the rich Eisen show is on the air eight four four the two zero four rich number two Donald. Take your phone call Phone calls this hour just had a beautiful lovely chat with Michelle Monaghan our Green Room Asya is her new Netflix. Show stir started started streaming. This week Susan are couple episodes. Inuit were we are into it And you know some streaming shows as soon as they're done you're locked in in and you will learn this Chris as Jessie Tuggle. Brockman is just seven weeks away from arriving or as I text. I texted texted you and Sarah at the just right before the kick off the shore bowl this is the last Georgia bulldogs football game before Eric. Zaire Brockman is gonNA come into to the world and we'll say serling goes. WHO's that and I'm like? Oh man she all she not Zyu- and I was like no quarterback. What about going to do Quincy Carter Brockman go? I gotta be honest with you champ. Bailey I did in fact google quickly all time passing yards in the all time passing yards list just to choose one from Stafford right. Oh Yeah I mean it's too. It's too simple I to go. Old School her voicemail. Throw under the bus here. Her voicemail is still you've reached Sarah and Matthew Stafford leave a message. That's fine you can't you can't tell it or change that right now. I don't care. You're not jealous. mathematically I think I think it's funny. Okay good look if to be with Sarah. Tian you've got to have a sense of humor about yourself about everything in about everything that you don't expect that you should have a sense of humor about okay. Great the reason why I'm bringing this up. Is that when you do have your child again. You're six seven seven weeks away from the due date correct. When you do have your child everything will change? It's great but also everything is ruined everything you know right. Now we'll be totally destroyed and ruined especially your sleep patterns and on top of all of that when you stream show with your significant other and it's the next episode and it's now like nine thirty at night. Ten o'clock clock at night and the clock's ticking down on the corner of your screen you share a look with your significant other. And it's kind of like Thelma and Louise do we grasp right and revert or do we call do I don't I I wanna hit the Stop Button. I don't even WANNA get locked into another one because if if you `specially if you're watching an hour long episode and it's ten fifteen eleven to eleven thirty and you don't even have kids when you're going through this when you have three small children three to eleven under like me or B B before it you do have to. You GotTa do some quick math quick math. You also gotta take the temperature of WHO. You're watching it with like you like it do we. We keep going to do it. And it's just like Thelma. Grab hand of Louise or Kramer grabbed the hand of the car car in car salesman. Yeah I know we're we're running on empty here but do we go and we did that with Messiah. So that's the highest compliment. I can possibly give show when you're like okay. 'cause somebody's GonNa come in in in our room the middle of the night with a nightmare or something so get ready for that Sir excited. Our poll question of the day is which team on the road. This wild card weekend is due to make a long run into the playoffs and by long run. I mean and that's gotta mean at least two WS right to Roy w thanks so you one and done the home team in the wild card and a one and done the home team in the divisional round and and you stroll into championships Sunday and say here I am. I'm coming at the king and I'm smelling the Super Bowl. Four quarters away just like you. Bills Bills Titans. Viking seahawks currently half of our rich Eisen show listeners and viewers. I haven't even hit that with a re tweet. Give me the give us the poll update brought to you by by our friends at capital one which is reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts at no fees are minimums and one of the nation's best savings rates capital on. What's in your wallet? Chris what do you have over there. Yeah so wildcard road team likely to make a deep run here like you said Seahawks lead the way here. Fifty four percent can't keep roth forty one percent. Titans there at New England bills seventeen percent at Houston. Vikings only eight percent at New Orleans. You voted for I. Vote for you. Tell me why I voted for. Who Do you think I voted for? Chris voted for Tennessee. Titans incorrect my apologies to tell the one. My apologies. SORTA will compton. Linebacker Oakland Raiders. I said that Taylor Lewan is a shorthanded. My introduction shorthanded. Why Long handed ended my introduction to him to to tool on him for having a podcast called bus with the boys in a bus? That doesn't have a motor. I said that he was the co host of the Taylor. Lewan podcast I think is what I said at some point to shorthanded will compton was pissed instead of you know. I'm going to start taking a purse right back at Ya. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get will on the show next week okay. I'm just going to say to him. Hey Man I hope Olive Branch feelings. No I voted for the buffalo bills. How under the radar can this team be week after week? How on the inside the playoff game? What does that matter who cares? I don't think that matters. It's been wall. So what was the last time. The San Francisco Forty niners playoff game. And nobody's saying that about them right now. It's been mm seven. Maybe it's been a while it's been a long time for the bills. It's been Jim Kelly right man. They Got Music City Miracle. They thought they had that one. And I don't care how long it's been. How more under the radar can be wins at Dallas win at Pittsburgh on a Sunday night Josh Allen? Good luck the last time you go the last time a top five all time running back played in the playoff game. Oh Yeah. Ut's earlier in the week. The last time a running back currently in an active member of the top five all time rushers to play in a playoff game jerome Bettis who played in and won Super Bowl. Forty and here comes. Frank Gore with Devon singled. Terry you're Frank Gore. It's a rarity somebody who's active in the top. Five all time rushing this plane and playoff game Frank Gore who had one hundred yards rushing and a touchdown for the forty niners and they're super bowl. Loss Smoke Brown Coal Beasley again. I know it's difficult to say on a football field here comes Cole Beasley when it sounds like. He's from less than zero. K Like Bret. Easton Ellis made up the name of a wide receiver that plays the slot for for the buffalo bills. I'm going deep. Pop culture references now deep into the eighties Cole. Beasley everybody by the way Davis White. I you know everybody seems to have an edmonds. These days there edmonds is pretty pretty damn good. Apparently he set a record for most tackles by somebody who's not yet even twenty one years of age. Yeah Buddy and he knows that defense. He's the brain of the defense defense. I could not talk the buffalo bills up any higher. Let's say one and done Houston like say. The colts did last year and in two law Kansas City they stroll or into Baltimore. They stroll dollars an interesting interesting game this year. Obviously Baltimore going to Buffalo and Baltimore did take care of business. But I'm telling you man everybody keeps saying. This is my one concern about the ravens. Everybody's seen him right the idea that you have a tough time with them because you have not seen somebody like Mike. Lamar be as fast. You can't scout team. Whoever he is scout team not as fast as big as the original original genuine article that you see for the first time the offense you see it for a second time? That said I do have a Mulligan on my Game Morning Super Bowl. Pick that I made using it. preseason I said it was gonNA be Patriots versus Saint Saints Win in in Miami and then on Thanksgiving I was the only one who stuck with it. Everybody else went to the Ravens. Forty niners because that would that game had just been played. Everybody jumped ship on whoever the heck they chose. I think somebody even jumped ship on the chiefs and might jump back on the chief ship because on. NFL Game Day morning this weekend again. I have an opportunity as we all do one last Mulligan. I'm GONNA take it. Sorry Chris Jumping off the Patriots ship and I'm jumping on the Ravens since I'm okay with that. I Bet I'm not taking a fence about doing that. And also this weekend I'm taking that Trophy Mariuchi. He's got the picks trophy next on the entire time all season long. That's my now. I just want it the same question we asked yesterday. When do the raiders officially become the Vegas Raiders because on their website is still the Oakland Raiders as yesterday and they can't wait due to the new league year which is marched to be that way because they're not gonNA show at the combine is the Oakland Raiders? Still the official site of the Oakland Raiders. They can't even go to the senior bowl as the Oakland raiders. One would think they've got to walk around with their Vegas stuff right. I'm sure the the logos and everything else is to say. Start putting that. Yeah man the same way what that merchandise technically. They're the Vegas Raiders Right now. Just like Mariucci's the former winner of the NFL Game Day morning picks contest that was last year. That's so last year okay boomer former I'll take that trophy from you. Use that properly I have no income. Michelle Monaghan about to make our way out here to join us so l.. Let me take to the phone lines. let's go to chuck in Fort Worth Texas. been hanging on for almost an hour. What's up chuck rich Here in Fort Worth most of us all always get our hearts broken every time that Jerry Jones lexa slow coach. And I think one problem that he has is Think that out of all the candidates he has you know that. WanNa be in the head. Coaching MM staff and WANNA be hired by. He's not GonNa let them hire their own coaching staff. The reason why he hasn't selected anybody yet. I don't know I I don't know about that. Obviously he wants to have a say Yay or nay on it but if somebody what he says I gotTa have this Guy I think Jerry would bust out the checkbook to make sure that that the guy was a acquired I don again chuck like this is. This is somebody who who's got everything now. I mean he's gone everything and thank you for the call chuck. I'm sorry did you guys I thank you got in there I apologize again. Michelle mom coming out shortly. I just want to repeat this. He's got everything. He's got his his own stadium. He wanted a new stadium got that he's got along with the Yankees an organization that that is outside of their sports the forefront of getting signing stadium they're in in charge of running PSL's for stadiums. They're in charge of giving making sponsors are all set in stadiums. It's this it's a business separate from the cowboys. I cannot imagine imagine how much money that makes. Certainly since he's the one and that organizations one that arranged to put the so-fi logo on that new stadium that's being built just up the road from us here for the rams and chargers and in charge of the for that and it's the cowboys and the Yankees that helped create this company and it's a worldwide brand. He's I think like they did Tottenham Hotspur where you just okay so i. He's got that he's got a bossed. Can't he's got the jacket ring and bust. He's got that what he does not have is a fourth trophy for the case and one unmet shows everybody that he has not lost it in terms of winning a championship that he knows what it takes and he's got audit and he's GonNa put it in front of the metroplex and the cowboys nation. And say I still got it. He doesn't have that that's the one thing he wants as he is is I believe seventy five years of age. That's it so he wants to find the right coach. And if this coach has I need that defensive coordinator that offensive coordinator and that person can be acquired. I think he'll he'll go ahead and do it. Seventy seven seventy seventy Jones. So I I'm I'm not sitting here and saying well. Yeah he did this Jerry. I know chuck just said my heart's been broken before but it's been ten years. He stuck with a guy for ten years and normally finally we say to somebody. You turn coaches too much. He hasn't done that breaking news breaking football news research chase Yang has announced he's entering the twenty twenty NFL draft. We totally got we address to pay by entering the draft instagram into it. And I know I'm having a little bit of fun with you know what's going on the cowboys. I know. I'm having a little bit of fun with taking so long that I've called it a Jewish goodbye. Nobody involved as Jewish. That's right Ah that it does remind me of my mom and aunt Isabel hugging each other in the four year. When we're trying to go home after a long pass over like this is what it reminds me of? But I'm not. I'm hoping that this gets done just for Garrett say he's the mind that said good bye chase Yang. I'm glad you're out of the big ten and so we'll keep an eye on all of this look who's shown up once again the richeisenshow green room couch and Michelle Monaghan fantasy you Michelle and the finest from Iowa Hawkeye is here and her new show. Messiah is available for streaming on Netflix. Right here right now. We'll talk about that and so much more with Michelle Monaghan live on the rich Eisen show when we come back. Everybody's got A to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list. And the good thing is you. I don't have to drop off or pick up anything. All you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance extra money in your pocket of course voice. This may be the most rewarding to do you do today. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show. We've all enjoyed her work in three mission impossible's the first I true detective films like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang Gone Baby Gone Patriots Day and more and now available for streaming the last couple of days on Netflix. Or new. Show Messiah good to see you. Michelle how're you well. I'm very well. I always love having a big tenure of fellow big ten individual sitting here from the great state of mind this a little bit. The last time So just growing up I will Hawkeye. Football was always on in your household percent especially with older brothers. I made provided it just by default. I tried to change the channel. They're pretty much. Yeah Michigan the name Chuck. Long was a four hour. Yes is he beat. My you know Jim Harbaugh the current coach of quarterback at the time. Yeah you beat like an undefeated. Michigan team and chuckling was a four letter word on the campus. Yeah Yeah from your parents share so Are Your is your family's still into Iowa football one hundred percent. It was a big win for us the the other day that was smoked them and by the way we we really needed to because our performance at the Rose Bowl A few years ago was just. It was Paul it was it was really substandard at least show the southern California audience. What they what they can do and look? That's exactly right just again in this day. Dan Age where things gets. You know so if you will twenty-first-century whatever just going in that stadium. It's it's kind of like a blast from the past as you grow up in the mets team. You ever go to that stadium and I think now especially now with the you know during the halftime and they do the change. How it's so special makes me so proud and you know there's been so many great things that have come out of just specifically that but Yeah I'm very much proud You you know I win in specifically proud Hawkeye. Did you ever play sports. You ever get into didn't you know I'm actually. I didn't find my athleticism at such a funny weird word to say until later in life I was really awkward growing up and I and I just didn't have any confidence whatsoever Playing any sports but I was hell hell of a fan. I was always in the stands. Everybody on But now I love to get out there and play do any kind of sport there is or any kind of outdoor activity so So yeah it just it just took me a while to get there so it wasn't grown up in Iowa you heard noises from the cornfields and just got a little bit Concerned Skater later sports because they were whispering from the corn is just like it was. That was my brother's territory older brothers so that was their thing and it was. This is something that I never sort of. You know I never really got into you. Know for show Monaghan here on the rich Eisen show okay so Also I think you mentioned last time you were here you. You're from a cubs family too. I mean that's that's essentially that's kind of like a through line in many ways the cubs AAA affiliate Niwa and just was right next stores. It's the first time I ever went to a city. It was to see a Chicago cubs. Yokota Wrigley Field. Yeah and then and as a result of having seen the city and they won I remember them surprisingly at that time they had like Rick Sandberg back all those great players and But but that's when I decided I wanted to go to college in Chicago and so I went. I ended up going to Columbia College in Chicago. But that was like my first taste of big city. Your your your family took you to to Wrigley Field Chicago. Yeah I saw like buildings. I grew up in a town. It's seven hundred people. I was like Oh wow. These are skyscrapers. Oh my God I i WanNa live amongst these not the cows go round up going to college there and then from there. I moved to New York because you know by one bigger skyscrapers and And then from New York. That's when I started acting I discovered acting. and Ed how you got your break is that that's essentially how I got my break. You know when I was in Chicago in order to put myself through school I modeled. I did like Montgomery wards. They did all the targeted. It adds. I did all that so I would do that. During the day and then I would go to school at night and that's kind of how I got myself through school. I studied journalism though you do yeah studied journalism awesome. That's what I wanted to do. I thought I wanted to do Like what like a reporter investigative journalism. Yeah reporting sixty minutes of. Yeah Yeah you know it's interesting. We were always big current events family and we watched the news. We talked about the news anchor constantly and I think also when you come from such a small towns small a place you're always constantly kind of looking beyond you like what's life you know like beyond this little pocket here and so when I went to Chicago and I saw that I was I saw a real opportunity to be able to kind of go to school. There be able to put myself through school and kind of explore the greater part of the world. What would that person who The what what would that Michelle Monaghan. Who was modeling to get through school? Say if she knew the cart. Michelle Monaghan instagram account. With one point one million dollars you know what I was always so determined I you know I always felt very fortunate because my folks always said if I could do my brothers as well you just just work hard. Put your mind to do whatever you want so I always felt really supported and even if I failed at at anything I always felt support I could always go back to my folks and my my parents were always rooting me on. So I I would say I would say probably say thank you to your parents a little a bit more. You know because they have been incredibly instrumental in my success. You're talking to somebody who might start. I got I went to the Middle School of Journalism. They wanted to go but it was so damned expensive. I had to settle for Columbia model. Is that what you're saying. Go back in the day could have but I did not know I actually did. Stringed Highschool Games in like wheeling wheeling Schaumburg out for for the Chicago Tribune. It just make a few bucks from my parents were like you know. Go ahead load up on student loans. We've got right. You're back especially when I got out of there. My first job was in Redding California doing the nightly sports. Wow for a mock kidding you. Six six fifty an hour. I believe it's the lowest degree coming out of school and I didn't. I didn't even graduate left right before my senior year because of specifically that realizing after having done internships and things like that that I was going to have to go back to Iowa and essentially be a one man band I was like no man like I don't. I'm not going to just move further east and something works out there you know and then obviously acting did but my parents were always so supportive port of a as well so I know exactly what you're talking about At Real Monaghan on twitter at Michelle Monaghan on instagram. Michelle Monaghan here on the rich Eisen show. Let's Talk Messiah because it is cool. It is cool. Yeah Oh did you shoot Some of it much of it. All of it In the actual Middle East or we did so we shot a good portion of of it. we shot for about six weeks. There may be close to two months occur We shot the the the show takes place in in Texas Washington Hindi Syria Israel and Jordan. And we shot Jordan for Syria in Israel. And God. I gotTa tell you it's like one of the most you know the one of the biggest guest privileges that I enjoy probably actors getting the travelling going to places that I normally wouldn't have put on my list of Tro run. And you you know creatively practically speaking you know when you're you know shooting a show of the scope of this You know with all these various points of view you need to be shooting in that exact place so That was really helpful in terms of creating the character and the story and you can really feel the production value in the scope of the show. No doubt out about that and then again You know there is no messiah. I don't believe going on right now. But I mean you talk about the Middle East being in the headlines could not be more real. It's search or if you will scary on on. I'm wondering what you learned. Did you learn anything through this whole process. It's interesting you know I mean and what I learned through the course of it and I think you know our our show runners done such a great job and you know really a heaves the creator of the show and he came up with the Story Korea so intricately woven you know and it's basically up for the audience viewers to kind of unravel the truth. And so depending on where you're from whatever walk of life you've led and Belief system that you inhabit. You will have a different take away. You know then the person the next to your your your takeaways probably going to be different than mine and as my husband's was different than mine. And so what I learned is that you know really all timidly e you know having been able to travel there and I met some good friends there ahead some Jordanian people that I've met the take the taking me in when I was there solo at Thanksgiving last year and And I spent the you know the day with them and we're all really ultimately no matter where we are what cornered the Earth with whatever language you speak whatever religion you practice that were more like than we are different and we really all just want the health safety and freedom you I know and I think what's important about this show is that you know you're gonNA walk away saying okay. He's a con artist or all. These characters are searching for something dialysate or or you know. He never says he's the Messiah it's ever. He holds a mirror to every character and it's a reflection of them. And what he what you you want him to be to you so I want him to be a con artist. Because I believe he's a connor whereas you know there are other characters in the story that are searching for salvation and they want him to save him door. Hope so depending on what you are and it's so it's it provokes a conversation in so that's what I love these divisive times. Is You know people showing their perspective and In having the opportunity to put ourselves in someone else's shoes across the world while you're great knit everybody's great knit in it. It's the stories is terrific. And what a time to be on Netflix. As well right I mean All right so before I let you go. I'd like to play celebrity true or false Tufo. Do you have the drop here for Michelle almonds delivery true or false shrill or you can't handle the truth go all right I up for Michelle Shaw Monaghan. On Rich Eisen show celebrity. True false true false. You hold a class driver's license driver's license which permits you to legally operate an eighteen wheel. You'll truck eighteen wheelers formerly held. But yes I went to truck driving school. I played a truck female trucker and I went trucker trucker and trucker. Yeah I drove that grapevine eighteen wheeler double clutch. You know come on. Yeah Oh yeah parallel parked it thing. Yeah are a little part is go to in order to get your license. What's that like AIDS absolutely? No it's mind-bending is the best way that I can explain absolutely mind-bending yeah when you attempted or successfully. Yeah Yeah let's just say that was successfully pulled off the parallel parking eighteen wheeler was there an actual vehicle Michael in front and behind you like that. You have because it's basically like a loading dock but you have to get it. Yeah Yeah Palo parking the way onto onto here. No no no totally different but I had it for a few years because I got it for the movie because I was like unless I am able to actually drive this this thing that I'm not gonna I'm not GonNa do the role and so I've proved it to myself and I did it and it was great and it was so nerve wracking but I ended up letting the the the licensed go because if you get pulled over for any fine whatsoever it's like triple triple triple. The fine wasn't worth it sounded. It's like I have no intention. I just wanted to be like my brothers and my dad have theirs right so I just wanted to call. It'd be like Dr Trouble now but you're still ugly as brother. Okay second thing. Yeah a second aspect here celebrity true or false with Michelle Monaghan true or false. You won multiple blue ribbons as a hog wrestler at age. Thirteen did I did but I would. I'd say I wouldn't say multiple. I would say twice two years in a row multiple. Do a long time. It's it's a thing I don't even know if they still do it anymore. It's actually now anything back on it. It's terrible but it is like Buchanan County the at our summer fair I Robert Gallery. Yes yes you. We went to school. I went to high school with him. Show Monaghan and Robert Gallery. High School Yearbook is yeah. And there's only thirty eight people by saying something small mountain of individuals. Some out will the whole family was really I mean they. We're all amazing athletes. So incredible athletes great family. Really Nice you know very well you know yeah. Big Human Beings met again. Oh you've already I guess done this already hit this one semester away from a journalism degree at screw. It I'M GONNA go actor exactly and your first acting GIG was one. This show called young Americans a it lasted a season on the CW network but allowed CW. Sure but I didn't have have an agent at that time so I was able to cold call some people and I and I knocked on My My agents stores twenty years ago. She still made today said. I don't know what I'm doing but I got the job and I said I promise work hard and she said I believe you. Let's give it a shot. So then who's who's crazier Harrelson Megani. which ones causing yeah? That's that's a tough one man. They're they're they're just pop. We've we've had We we haven't had woody. Harrelson gotta get along. I mean he's apparently got to get off the island of Hawaii that's true. That's it's hard to get him told I've been told by mutual friends and other agents. Whatever like yet that's what I've been told that's what I've been told and I will take that to the bank but we've next time I see him? I'll tell you but I've been told you. Just gotTa get him off the Hawaii we've had MC matthew mcconnahey or several times a he is I mean it's it's great when you meet somebody and they are as you would expect hundred percent down to earth and all of that. I don't know if he really does talk to himself. While all driving beside go streaming on Netflix right now and follow Michelle Monaghan again on on twitter at Real Monaghan and be one of the one point one million on instagram at Michelle Monaghan. Thanks for coming on here. Thank you so anytime you know. That and the television audience I'm an open residual check with you. Great that's when we come back on the radio audience. We'll take your phone calls and Jason Garrett. Is there any news on that front Chris after the break okay. That's after the break right here on the rich Eisen show. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors all of you great listeners for supporting this podcast. I certainly couldn't do this show without either of you and I wanted to remind you that you can support my sponsors by going to my show. Page podcast one dot com clicking on the support this his podcast button. And there. You'll see all of my wonderful sponsors that help make this show possible. So thank you for downloading subscribing and of course supporting now back to the show. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show just opened up a check with Michelle Monaghan sitting year my residual check from a puppy dog pals foreign showing. That's all it says from all right. After foreign showing that's the category that's the market in which residual comes from from foreign showing hundred fifty three dollars launch next week on your body. Is that right. I think that's what that means. That's so there's a lot. The people watching puppy dog piles around. I guess kids everywhere need to be occupied while the parents do their own thing. I always laugh when you would. It opened these and it would save four and use or whatever foreign years until I was just in a foreign country. And there's all these random American movies on did you watch like Mike to to Jack up my residual now so now I was now. I was watching some other end movie. But yeah the market for the the The seven dollar like Mike Check that also opened up pay TV Internet Internet rental free TV. A dollar twenty two from something. That's free what scam and then video slash DVD. I mean does anybody watch a DVD anymore. Like look into the everything's streamed. These I mean. Look just had a guest on with from Netflix and Netflix could win the Oscar this year. Man Now I can't remember the last time I popped it a DVD. Well that's that's that's that's the market that paid the least just twenty. Seven cents came from that unbelievable justice so sad as very silly so Jason Garrett still coach I I mean I don't understand I mean nothing's happened I I just I've no idea what the hell is going on. Yeah Damn Act together thank you. It's good to Nathan in Los Angeles. Take your phone call. What's up Nathan? How you doing Chris Rich Good Bob I'm sorry I didn't mean good Nathan I'm just having fun. What's on your mind Sir I wanted to kind of sum up what I was thinking of guard Jason Garrett and what made it so difficult or what was wrong along with his teams and I kinda got to the thought you know anytime the cowboys would win games. It was mostly talent and sometimes scheme. One of the things they lacked almost exclusively. Was it all the intangible types of things coaches are supposed to bring or at least. He's partly supposed to bring. I'm not saying individual players wouldn't have grit or hunger or chemistry. But you never saw co a cowboy team with the camaraderie or the chemistry Other Pete Carroll team or the hunger you saw from the Philadelphia Eagles when they won the super bowl kind right. I think you're never saw we've had so many. Thanks for the call Nathan. I appreciate it We've had many players on here. Obviously you ask a player about a coach. They'RE NOT GONNA they're not gonNA slag on their coach on on live radio and TV understand that I've never gotten a sense from A cowboy player that Garrett right didn't have control of things or the locker room or or anything like that. I never really got that sense if I had to put a finger on. Like what is the description of the Jason Garrett cowboys if I had to choose a phrase to describe the Jason Garrett cowboys if this is in fact the eventually at some point point sometime we'll say the phrase would be. It's always something that's the phrase. It's always something whether it was a missed kick or not going for it on fourth down or it was not going for it on fourth down that led to an overtime in which De'andre Hopkins ran like a mack truck through three guys who the entire era game was actually making the tackle but this time when it was all online they did or it was and missed throw or it was the wrong play call at the wrong time or the right. Play call at the right time but the ball got thrown behind somebody or somebody caught. It turned up field and fumbled it it or somebody on defense caused fumble but after further review Shrug Emoji we. You know we can't tell and you lose possession or Dez caught it and caught it at the time in the NFL we're the NFL. Couldn't come up with an actual proper role of what a catch was because Dez caught that football does is caught that football and we don't know if the it's always something would have cropped up with Aaron Rodgers getting the ball back and winning the game anyway many. But that's always something speaking of which it's time for Mike Del tufo weather report. It's been a while mine player on Saturday. Del Tufo with the weekend weather update. You know what we've done this for so long that the graphic we just showed was of you totally clean shaven about four years ago. I wouldn't WanNa want to change it though well. No that's not change. We usually we update the photograph of people on the show. Certainly when their guests like Peter King lost a lot of way since he first appeared on the show. We've updated that those things. I don't update your your graphics and either by the way should I want you to update or modernize. Is your delivery of the weather. Gotten a little over four years four crucial. NFL Playoff Games January rei sell. The weather could be getting my game anymore. When it's your catching grant go forward? Obviously game Saturday and two games Sunday. Everyone's excited for all all four. The game correct. Two of the Games are domes. Which means weather really is not a factor and between you as we always say as I always say the you always get mad because he always say oh? What's the weather outside so eric? My esteemed colleague made sure that I know what the weather it'll be for. The people strolling into the stadium in case Youtube. Schmo head asked me this. 'cause usually do that this is so that's some opportunity games. Your urine take. The weather is informational. Yes to other games. You're providing a service exactly and that's I do hear Bills Texans. Obviously that's the Dome Stadium Avium Game Number One. Yes if you're walking to the stadium yes not inside. The state does have a retractable roof so they could open probably because of Devi right but but there are at least sixty seven degrees and there is zero percents. Chance you're now potentially breaking news may might open. I'd open it up if if Bill O'Brien O'Brien thinks that that would be helpful for the Texans. They'll open it up exact because the weather is opened up above. I didn't say that word all right. I'll give you that one. The second game on Saturday Titans Patriots. This has been one. That's been a big bag for all it's expected to be forty degrees but it will feel like thirty six okay with a fifty five. Hi percent chance of rain actor with wins which will not be a factor there. Okay the first two games. I'm sorry the second set of Games Vikings Saints Game Number One. Well that's a dome. We've done many games there. I did a super bowl dome so we don't take care about the weather you've done. I mean yes in theory but the weather outside zone as you walk image. Democrats will be fifty eight degrees. It'll feel exactly like fifty eight okay. So that's kind of an even one where they say feels like it. Is You know. There's no difference by the way Grachev Tasio Graphics Department. It's like literally plus or minus five degrees from hit what he decides. The weather is perfect. I got forty thirty seconds. Mike Real quick second game on Sunday Seok said Eagles Big One. It's going to be forty forty. Three degrees five percent chance of precipitation. Yes and the winds between five live in fifteen which would be a factor. That'd be so. Is it going to be sunny. Partly Sunny Johnson. Somebody's cloudy the Philly. But we've done a lot of I've done a lot. We have see champion. We've done we've done atomic championship cloudings there. I've been cloudy so we all know Philly it's outdoors exactly and it's southwards mostly sunny sunny in Philadelphia. He's he got the flops going. Not at all my Chris it looks pretty good. I got a chance ration- yeah tried to get me curt Menefee from NFL Fox Sunday. Okay and a n Es America's top dog coming up happy holidays from your friends at podcast. One expect from Lady Gang. We wanted to say. Thank you to all Advertisers for their support. This year we couldn't do without you have a very happy holiday season. 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BK Recaps The Falcons Game with Dr. Rick Lewis

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42:14 min | 11 months ago

BK Recaps The Falcons Game with Dr. Rick Lewis

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Here's vic fangio trying to find a silver lining on the news that the promising youngster is gonna be on the shelf for awhile albert that. Get an acl injury. And he will miss the rest of the season. Fortunate thing i was. It's just the acl. The acl only many times when get an acl. It's awesome other ligaments. So his rehab repair should go clean and he should be back as good as new next season. So eleven catches one hundred twenty one yards that one score should have been more heady of hauled in one or both of those. Td passes that his college qb drew. Lock him with in new england and locked. Join logan and louis like he does every monday and it was pretty shortly after. The news out about alberto here was his reaction to losing his favorite target missouri. They had seventeen catches and eighteen game seventeen touchdowns and eighteen games and into one of his more reliable and clearly favorite targets here at the pro level. Yeah you know just being really really close to albert it. It hurts you know. I don't know it's upsetting for him as sure. I don't really know if he's had to deal with any big injuries yet. you know but i'll be there for them We live pretty close together. So i know he's he's by himself right now and try to fake his life as possible if i can when i can but it is upsetting and then a little bit after that drew on. They talked bradley. Chubb every monday as well. He's no stranger to an acl tear. And you know he has continued to say that it was a great thing for him that he tore his. Acl you talking about turning a negative into a positive. He tells me that he told me that. A bunch early because we talk every week for broncos pre game That and he said it publicly a lot that it allowed him to Kind of refocus and and and understand what's important and play every snap like it could be his last so here bradley job to dave and rick on here in the news about alberto. Turn his acl him. Working in the way your own truck camper and see his work at a lot of those guys that. I ended auto same work same the day. I wanna get back fast. And also his especially albert. And i'm excited to see how he deals off. Hopefully he matures and and like mature like for me last year. Not in the game from an outside perspective for Probably hasn't had that for a while. He's been playing along and from our perspective and in really appreciate and come back to your hundred feet. I on the recovery russia's so we're the broncos go from here a while they're down to two healthy tight end sort of healthy. Nick vannett that on through foot stuff we know. No offense ankle can't be one hundred percent. We saw him limping on sunday. But he's gonna continue to fight through that. Andrew beck is expected back for the dolphins game. Jake butt expected back for the saints game. It's my understanding that he's already ready to go and wishes that he wasn't on. I r but that is the way it goes the broncos at brought introit who mugabe last week to go through the six days of covid nineteen testing. He's going to be added to the practice squad. He'll be elevated very likely the next two weeks of the former bronco's fourth rounder will get to play for the team that drafted him back in two thousand eighteen. He of course was cut at the end of training camp. He'd been with houston on their practice squad and they let him go october. Twenty seventh broncos also gonna sign jon jalapeno to their practice squad. He played with pat shurmur last couple of years in new york and started. I think fifteen games form center so we'll see lap you being a game day call up or if he has shot to get any real run. I think they're going to continue to push. Lloyd cushenberry and vic fangio did announce that both shelby harrison. Graham glasgow be back this week. At least that's the plan was shelby. Grass began his three days of mandatory training at the training center. began sunday. So he'll be ready to go when they hit the practice field tomorrow shelby. Not sure if he's got an all clear but victim to think that he would be ready to go wednesday again. He tested negative but had close contact with someone who had tested positive so he'd been in isolation since last tuesday not sure if he's still in isolation or not a but he should be back this week and ready to go against his former team and the raiders they were the team signed him out of illinois state and i think he played four games for maybe at one sack from not mistaken. But so it'll be good to get shelby and graham glasgow back if flown under the radar mark barron. his i. our window opened. The speedy linebacker has been hurt since the final practice of the preseason that friday night practice they had at empower field at mile high pulled a hamstring. And when you're in your mid thirties. Sometimes that easy to get back from a hamstring. As for other broncos injuries demar dotson the latest on fant. Both of those mcvay wasn't that worried about but didn't have a good update for us on monday. And then both aj boy and bryce callahan who they desperately need to corners. He said he expects to see both of them back this week. So boy must have progressed in concussion protocol and i guess he's not that worried about callahan's ankles that's where it stands on the injury front. The broncos will meet virtually. today. I did vic fangio. Will they continue to meet virtually this week. You didn't have a good answer as to how it relates to the team. He said the coaches are are in the building and that was all he new to. This point I guess i could find out a little later if the players are going to be in the building or working virtually so I guess is they'll continue to work. Virtually especially on a tuesday wanted just film study. And i don't know if that means guys will come in and lift on their own Or how that works. That's usually what tuesday lifting and going over film with your position group so we'll see how that plays out. We're going to get to rick lewis here. In one second remind you about chug water. Chilly go to chug water. Chilly dot com promo code chug water be k. To save twenty five percent up at a grocer near you of course. But water chillier spicer western. Life had some chug water Julia the other night. And i know we're gonna have again this week because my wife went to the store because i don't know how to do that. I'm an idiot. I mean. I had to go to the store. I just don't know any of the stuff that she needs. But it's it was obvious when she returned from picking up the pre Arranged groceries From walmart that we are going to have some water. Chilly here in the very near future with the cold weather outside it's no better time than the checkout chug water cell really dot com promo code water. Bk all right. Let's get to dr. Rick lewis the radio doctors. I like to call them. Six everyday on three five the fox nine to noon with Dave logan logan and louis on and nice up to join me every week. Here's the one. And only rick lewis rick before we get into the specifics of the game. And maybe it's because when you lose the way they did now wasn't as embarrassing say the chiefs loss even with the fun comeback. I don't know if anybody really thought they were going to do it. Two weeks in a row based on how. That game unfolded so. It's not that we can't break down some things that happen in that game and maybe we'll talk about the young corners. But i did the post game. Show the broncos. React over time as i like to call it. Because broncos react belongs to. Mike reiss even on what roaches intro. Says we threw it out there. Somebody texted us. What does drew lot need to show. Let's start there. What is your lock to show in these final. Eight games is dave. This question on colorado's morning news on monday after the game. What does the show these last eight games to say not that he's the guy for a decade. That's its own thing that he's the guy next year that they're not trying to draft a quarterback not trying to trade for sam darnold or acquire a vet or anything like that. You know what. I just got you so damn it. I don't know what's going on. I'll decline still got you okay. What's now on speakerphone. Might might ear is just touch a button and it. Just god okay. I'm just go to speakerphone. Because the phone equalities the quality's not noticeable so all right now house speaker phones. Yeah it's fine. That's what i'm saying. Is if if i if you were in the car. It's very obvious but right now. Okay quiet i can't okay. Start over sorry well. So i'm not gonna. I did a lot of talk. And but basically what you to show you in the final eight games to show you that. He's the man going into next year. Well became first of all. I want to say. I think it's it's too early to determine if drew lock is the guy or not a love to see him. Stay healthy to play the final eight games of the season. I want to see him get more consistent. I would love to see him and the offense get off to a faster start. We're watching at least the last couple of weeks. The team getting buried in the first half and then trying to come back in the second half. I'd love to see them. Convert more third downs that that seems to be a big problem with this football team. It really you can go back the last couple of years no matter who's play quarterback that's been a big problem for this football team. It's just a matter of being more consistent and drew. Lock is one of those guys that Young quarterbacks he flashes he might slash for a quarter and then he doesn't look good for a quarter or two. And that's pretty much what we've seen from drew lock here so far in twenty twenty you know when you look at his stat line in the last two games in the fourth quarter. It's phenomenal. he's twenty five to thirty nine. Three hundred six yards five touchdowns and then one rushing touchdown as well so six touchdowns in one hundred seventeen point one passer rating. I mean anybody would take those numbers if you could get drew. Lock playing like that early in the game. Or the broncos could get up you know if the broncos could go up twenty one to three twenty four to seven and let the other other team try to claw their way back into the game in the fourth quarter. I think we'd have a lot more wins on the board that we're getting right now know and as you were giving that answer i was trying to figure out what his fourth quarter. Qbr is espn has broken down in their in their stats deeper. His total qbr. Right now is twenty ninth in the league out of thirty one. Qb's dwayne haskins is thirty. I i don't know why. There's not a thirty second quarterback dwayne haskins thirty one. Sam darnold thirtieth drew lock. Twenty ninth in total. Qbr for the entire season. You know fourth quarter. Notwithstanding and i and i can't find that answer so to your point about them getting started sooner. I guess the question is do you. Put the blame on. Drew lock or on pat shurmur and offensive staff or equal blame. Like if you're going to assign a percentage is it a little more on the coaches or a little more on drew lock and the players because look there were times yesterday and dave talked about a lot. You guys brought up on the broadcast. He'll brought her up again on your show on monday. Talked about the free runners. You know grady. Jarrett's the best defensive lineman interior linemen this side of aaron donald and when lloyd cushenberry goes left show up and he goes right. Grady jarrett to run it drew lock. That's not an ideal situation and that's one hundred percent not do locks vault there unless he told each of them to go a different way which i'm sure he did well until you this calling the game in real time and i haven't had a chance to go back in in re watch it. I didn't see anybody open especially in that first. Half and i'm looking in these. Were things dave. And i talk about. If not on the we'll talk about during the break you know he might ask me it. Anybody open downfield. And and i might even ask him if you do. You see anybody open and the answer is no these guys. These young receivers are still trying to figure out the game as well. So there's a couple of things working against drew lock number one drew. Lock being a young quarterback trying to get more consistent number two. You've got young receivers. That are that are having a tough time. Getting open Now the second half things changed up a bit and suddenly Judy hamblur were getting open. You know these guys are still learning as well in a big problem for drew yesterday was he didn't have any time to throw man that that offensive line was just getting blown up. It seemed like just about every every pass play. You know every third down play you know people say they wanna see drew. Lock throw more from the pocket. What pocket he doesn't he doesn't have a pocket and yesterday especially with demar dotson went out man. It was a mess out there. You got a rookie center. You've got a backup right guard and you've got a backup right. Tackle back by the way four. Basically jake rogers is your fourth right. Tackle count on james in them in your three or forty exactly. I was about to say that he is really tackled number. Four and so. You're really asking a lot of any quarterback. Bk let alone a young inexperienced quarterback who's played about eight or nine games to be able to make throws under those conditions. Now i'm not giving him a full pass on this. You know but but when you look at all of the challenges that he has to deal with man he's got he's got a full plate well so we make comparisons in sports and certainly at that position More than others before. Before i get into the comparison of paul klee threw out there on the broncos post game show with me sunday night and then who someone else out there that i like. Maybe a little bit more when when you kind of break down the numbers and style of play You guys talked to do lock every monday. And so you'll talk to him. After this falcons game. And what. I appreciate you do the same with dave when he wasn't gonna throws a line under the bus even though you know. I just pointed out a very obvious play. That wasn't his fault. And then i asked him about taking too much responsibility. Basically kind of piggybacking on dave's question even though it happened in the zoom press conference i said hey i heard you not wanna throw line under the bus with dave but at what point are you taking on too much responsibility. And he said hey. I'm the quarterback. I'm always going to do this. Any quarterback worth their salt. I'm paraphrasing is always going to take all the responsibility so i'm saying all that to say he. He has the leadership qualities you want. And he has all of the intangibles. I like to compare not him to mark sanchez. but like jarrett. Stidham coming out. You heard all about the intangibles mark. sanchez house. All the intangibles. They didn't have enough tangible. The difference with drew lock. Because i think he has those intangibles but he has more than enough tangible traits to be good. And we're just not seeing it consistently which is kind of where you started. When i said what do you want to see you said consistency but you get that sense talking to him every week right. He's he's not just giving you lip service. This is the way he's wired. I totally agree. and yes. he's got the tangible handy's got the intangibles to he's got it all. he's first round talent that dropped to the second round. And if you remember the knock on lock was that he was a bit inconsistent in college as well. Now this guy through ninety nine touchdown passes in college so he had great success in college. Completion rate wasn't very good at missouri. And i believe that's probably why he dropped down to the second round so he's got all the talent. He's got elite talent and he does some things really really well May maybe at this point. It's more of a mental game from for him and he really just has to play through this. He's not going to get better on the bench. He's not going to get better. Learning behind a veteran quarterback at this point i mean he just has to play and just get more reps and if he can get through the season and we see progress from week to week and in this case. Eight games to go. I think we'll know by the end of the season if drew lock. Is the guy moving forward or not. And i think the broncos will know the same thing you know another thing that we we didn't really talk about regarding the young wide receivers is the denver broncos lead the league in dropping catchable passes. I mean that's that's a major factor right there and we've seen it from game one. You know when they really need to get a third down the if they really need to to To hang onto the ball so they don't have to pawn it back so a team can go down the field on them. In score game winning touchdown or field goal. They dropped passes it. We saw it happen again yesterday. Well drops from lindsey a couple of drops from hamler. You know this is a this is a big problem. Another big problem for a young quarterback tab well and dave will talk about wide receiver being dependent position. But how many times have great wide receivers made of quarterbacks. Look better whether it's peyton manning getting to throw to reggie wayne and marvin harrison all those years or deandre hopkins year after year in houston where it was a revolving door of quarterbacks still making it to the pro bowl and having a hundred catches clearly making subpar. Qb's look good and there's just a couple of examples. But i look back at the patriots game where he puts to on the money to albert one today shot hamilton. All three of those should have been scoring. Both of our rose were in the end zone. At some point. You can only do so much and to your point. It's one thing when you talk about targets there's nothing about catchable passes and there was one that both you dave commented on in the second half where it was that same kind of role right crosser to jerry jeudy where you both acknowledge he you know had had some zip on it. Maybe a little. A little more than judy was expecting but he's got to come down with that. The past tim. Patrick maybe they missed a pass interference the one on the left side. His arm was held on. Both of those would be touchdowns but drew put it in his left. Hand a catchable ball that we've seen some guys make one handed catch. I'm not picking tim patrick. So at some point you do need to help not just with the online but you need your your pass catchers when you're hitting them in stride or hitting them on on the money or catchable ball to holiday in there's no doubt in it. Sounds like we're making excuses for drew. Lock in and i guess we are but something like there are s- right right involved in this whether it's injured players or his team not helping him out. It's one thing if he's just throwing pick after pick after pick or missing receivers that are wide open all the time. Overthrowing him under throwing them. That's not the case here. And when you look at just herbert for the chargers and that's a guy that drew lock Has been getting a lot of comparisons with here recently. Just in herbert has a pro bowl caliber wide receiver and keenan allen. That's the guy that's gonna make all of those catches in a guy that he can count on. He's got hunter henry another really good Receiver up there. Some veteran guys. Mike williams the first round. Pick mike williams. Yeah and they're still losing football games. We we should also mention that. They have a worse record than the denver. Broncos do in the broncos beat them but it's it really helps. The point is when you're a young quarterback trying to figure things out you have to when you make good throws your guys have to catch it and you guys have to get open. And so that's that's that's a big problem here. Judy had a breakout game. an hamler might say handler did as well yesterday but was all in the second half they. These guys need to get off to a faster. Start and start playing with a lead for a change in know start. Start getting more. You know third down in twos. Is that if third down in nine. You know Lately they can't run the ball. Well why do you think that is the offensive line is decimated right now with with glasgow out And and you got a young center. Cushenberry who i think is getting better from week to week but The offensive line has been an issue the last couple of games. Well so i mentioned comparison. So paulk lee wanted to compare drew lock. He called him a nice jay cutler. Just meaning you know. His teammates love him. Good guy but kind of the same same guy. That's going to rely on his arm. Maybe more than than his head even though they're both smart guys right. Jay is no dummy. You don't dummies at vanderbilt andrews. Not a dummy by any means but rely on their talent before maybe dissecting exactly what you should be doing on on a given play i had somebody carson wentz and then i went and looked at carson wentz's numbers and carson runs a little more than he should and i think that's why he's gotten banged up a lot carson's had teams decimated by injury all the time but he played in. Mvp level of the year. They won the super bowl until he got hurt. And so carson a little bigger. He's six five and drew six four. There drew the little faster carmen. Four seven seven four six nine. I certainly am more excited. About the comparison to win then cutler cutler had a nice career that ninety five percent of not hire. Nfl quarterbacks would take jay cutler's career two hundred and twenty seven touchdowns. I think one hundred and fifty picture so one pro bowl right. There are plenty. Who would take that. But if you're building a franchise you're not saying jay cutler is is your goal. I don't think right. You're certainly not saying i want my to be jay cutler like to start for many years but you want him to have more success. Either of those. That's funny yeah. And i've heard jay cutler comparison with drew lock. I can kind of see it. And you could certainly do a lot worse than jay cutler as your quarterback over the next ten years carson wentz of course A different story and keeping my both those guys were first round picks you know. Don't forget that drew lock was taken in the second round drew lock certainly as first round talent and just the way. The draft played out that year. He dropped to two round number two. I don't know you know you make a really good point. You're not ever going to draft a quarterback and go. Hey this is the next jay cutler excited about it right but think about it. Say he he ends up. As good as jay cutler lot worse you could build a team around that in win. We saw it happen when he was certainly in chicago. He had a really good though. I believe the pro bowl that year. He should've one. Pro bowl came here. Last year was denver. But you're you're right and they had him in. Nfc championship game. Then he gets hurt and hang out to dry on the injury report in our guy from to come in. Because what tod collins didn't remember any of the place i think i'm trying to remember the qb from kale One that his name kale something anyway. Yeah but but you know what. I in other words. You can do a lot worse than both of those guys. You can win with those guys. You can build a team around those guys. And let's face it. Both those guys cutler was a franchise quarterback and carson wentz is is a franchise. Here's numbers. I mentioned the one pro bowl in from six to seventeen so ten eleven year. Eleven twelve years wherever that is two hundred twenty seven thousand one hundred sixty six completed sixty two percent of his passes so not that magical sixty five number sixty to seventy four and seventy nine career record overall in all those years in the one pro carson has started sixty four games. He's thirty five twenty eight and one obviously that eleven two year when they won the super bowl his second year. Hundred thousand nine hundred forty seven. I t so both those guys. You're looking at two to one. And jay's case a little less than two to one and that's kind of ordinary lock is now i think he's thirteen to nine touchdowns two interceptions. You need to clean that up a little. But that's not three to one which is what what you'd like. I guess it's not that we're going to make excuses. I'm gonna continue to give him the benefit of the doubt until he has a game where he has four interceptions. He threw that one yesterday and does that game over game. He showing me enough each week to think man these couple things tweaked if his a line was healthier if they weren't you know playing from behind the whole time that maybe we'd see what we saw houston game last year and how good would drew lock. Look if he was on some of those teams that cutler played for or the philadelphia eagles super bowl team. You think drew lock would look better or a lot better yeah. This is a struggling team and it has been since they won the super bowl. You know it. So that's another factor and just another thing that that drew lock is dealing with. This is struggling football team. And now they've got. I think a really talented set of young receivers both both tight ends. I love i love fans. I love alberto to bed. What happened with the acl tear. And you gotta love judy. Hamler looks like he's the player. You get courtland sutton back next year. How how much better would he be of. Courtland sutton was playing right now. Yeah how much better when everybody because of the attention courtland would would. Yes yes a reliable true number one wide receiver pro bowl wide receiver. It makes a big difference. I think drew it look a whole lot better so i know. We've made a lot of excuses for him. But but i think they're legit. My final drew lock question for you then will drew lock starting next year. I'm not gonna hold your feet to the fire and say hey remember on november ninth november tenth. You said yes he would or no. He wouldn't but if you were go to which of your favorite gambling site and they would let you bet or draftkings my favorite gambling site and they would let you bet is drew. Lock the starter in two thousand and twenty one for the broncos. What would you bet so. I'm going to be nostra. Dhamma snow and predict future with eight games to go. I would if i. If i had to bet i would say drew. Lock would be the quarterback next year. How about you. I would as well i would go make that bet right now at draft kings or fan duel but draftkings. Because they give me money and i i would make that. I would make that bet. I think he's going to be the quarterback. 'cause i think sometimes it's hard to see the four search trees and maybe this is a bigger broncos conversation when you're a fan and the best example is your dad with the detroit lions. He goes into every year thinking. Man i'd love to make the playoffs right. Just be nice but they're not thinking about championships enough in detroit and then the game starts and the lions are beating xyz team even when it's the packers and they're really good or beating. Tom brady and the patriots me or whatever it may be right there beating them and your dad get sucked in it's like al pacino and godfather three so broncos fans you can ask all the broncos country right now no one's telling you they're winning the super bowl this year. We're expecting them to with the rash of injuries and just where they are as a team but then the game starts. And you're like wait. Why are they playing so bad. Let's get rid of this guy. Let's get to that guy. Let's trade him with fire him. Why do they suck so bad. And then you have to remind yourself where their roster is. you're missing you're starting corners. Your plan rookies there. The we've touched on a lot. And so it's it's about taking a step forward and building in all these spots with all these young guys and windsor. Nice but lost his actually. Help your draft position if you're not going to be a playoff team. They're not ready to concede that but to me. That's the hardest thing for broncos country realized because it's been so many years now without playoffs something. They're not used to this year. Isn't about winning super bowl. It's about taking a step forward in all the spots where these young guys need to. Just play your the lions. That's a great analogy. And that's that's i was born and raised in detroit and have been watching losing lions teams my entire life by the way And denver broncos fans have been spoiled. There's no doubt about it. And i tell my dad that all the time you know a he. He's optimistic every year. That this is going to be the lions year. And he he. He's stays with that team year after year. And my dad is lived so many places around the country as you know. I've moved around a lot as a kit right. Yeah and i told my dad recently. I said you know that. If you would've just taken some interest in the teams where we along the way you know. How many super bowls you've missed me for real. He missed the rams. He missed the bengals going to the super bowl. He missed the bears going to the super bowl. He missed the broncos. He lived here when the broncos were on their super bowl run and he was still alliance fan and he said. I don't care. He said that's my team. You know so. That's a loyal fans here. But the broncos set the bar so high you know in in the compliment. I'm giving them a compliment. When i say that that broncos fans they expect to win every year and that's the expectation from this organization and now it's been four years. It's been this year number. What four or five one thousand five hundred sixty s. seventeen eighteen nineteen. This is the fifth season that at this point. You're looking now. You beat the raiders. You beat the dolphins and those are the teams directly ahead of you right now for playoff spots. It's a different conversation. It's not that i don't think they can. And we're gonna go into these games looking at the match ups and saying okay. Slow the raiders. Run game down you make a couple of plays. They're not gonna kill you in their passing game. Why can't you beat the raiders. And then the dolphins you say hey to a rookie. Qb yesterday playing better but in denver. Why can't you so. That's we're still going to do it. The next couple sundays. It's just the way we're wired. But then after that they get the cheese and then they get the bills on the horizon. It's there's there's not much for the weary around here. Yeah then dates after that. Yeah these next. Two games are critical and these are two teams that they can't beat if they play. Well they'll get boy back. Hopefully they'll get kellyanne back. Shelby harris back hopefully is okay. Glasgow comes back. Yeah so yeah. I mean opt this. I'm optimistic just about every week. Because when you look at the breakdown and you look at the nfl the parody in this league look with the cowboys did yesterday against the steelers. Who saw that comes at time. This season the cowboys have two wins. Seven losses this is only the second time this season i pick against the cowboys in our pro. Football pimm challenge that we do on. Koa in the afternoon. And and i'm watching the game. As i'm getting ready to go into the studios i'm doing on my post game stuff and then i gotta go do the post game show and i'm like this is finally pick against the cowboys which goes against the way i was raised. Right when you're born in certain places are probably going to pick a team more than you. Otherwise would and so i picked was every week last week. I didn't against philli. They hung in that game. A half and then benvenuti turned independent nucci. Whoever that guy is and same thing yesterday they have the steelers dead to rights. And so i think that it's it's a crazy league right and every week these guys get paid. Just i'll tell you one other thing too as it relates to gambling or in this case fantasy you're affiliated with vandeweghe of a million dollar game every week so does draftkings so i put twenty bucks in because i want some money on the packers on thursday. I put twenty bucks in made a million dollar lineup right. I went matt ryan when i found out. Callahan wasn't in already. Knowing boy wasn't in no show. Bears put matt ryan. Julio jones and todd gurley. Well they had a nice games. I found out today that the millionaire maker the guy that won a million so they called the millionaire maker had drew. Lock jerry jeudy in his lineup. So you know it's one of those things where you want to you over. Think it but to your point on any given sunday the that game and the raiders is a rivalry game. I there's a good chance. I'm going to pick them to bounce back. Depending on where their health is and if fans plan and stuff like that i think they got a legit shot of winning this game against the raiders and the dolphins coming up. Yeah and so that. That was where i was going to end it now. You didn't really get to get any fun things in on the broadcast because of the nature of of the way. The game unfolded last week. But you had the note about bruce matthews. Be jake matthews dad. That's a pretty straightforward. Jake's made one pro bowl bruce's made fourteen and then did you know because i didn't know this to a couple of weeks ago that jessie tuggle the falcons great the linebacker. The plane eighties and nineties was grady. Jarrett's i had no idea and i stumbled across a couple of weeks ago. He went to five pro bowls in atlanta. Did you know that. I didn't know it until i did the game. Prep last week. I did know what. I never got to use that. During the game jake matthews. How often do you call a tackles name in a game. I happened to happen to call his name early and was able to get that little tidbit in and also interesting that That dave logan played with His brother clay sure. Who is jake. Matthews uncle yeah claiming the second reward. Elaine hall of famer. Yeah a great a great tidbit when games are going like that Try to make it as fun as you could make it. And i think that's one of the things about our broadcast that we do. Keep it entertaining even when your team is getting blown out in the first half. But there's just some things that you just gotta layoff you know because it's just not appropriate at the time. I just can't imagine if i if i could have been the color. Commentator during the broncos super bowl runs how much fun with that. Yeah you sound like scott zolak when you hear him yelling on those patriot lights. Those years right. That's the same thing you do. Find one the coolest note actually and it was only mentioned once. I think and i don't know if you don't feel comfortable bringing it up but i know you don't talk today very much on air on your show about him. Coaching jaden graham. Who i remember seeing them. The john lynch scholarship luncheon one. One of those. He played at cherry creek for dave went and played at. Yale is a backup tight. End for the falcons had a couple of tackles on kickoff coverage. And i know dave mentioned he said. I had the pleasure to coach jaden in in highschool at cherry creek. I just thought that that was really cool. Jk scott to another player last year for the packers. That dave coates. It's pretty wild. That dave does a good job of downplaying. And a lotta times. When it's someone that played against him like big mike panel for the for the chiefs. Who used to be with the jets. He mentioned what a good player he was at. Grandview things like that but it is cool when guys. Dave coach are on the field in a game and make a play that seems to happen. You know every couple of games are so there'll be somebody that makes a play that dave either coached or coached against it. And i love that. I love to be able to bring that up in a football game and it really also brings a real local connection to the broadcast because some people may not remember mike pinelli you know guys like that actually played at. I think grandview mike. I think key trail one of those kinds of underrates like that. That was a couple of weeks ago. But yeah it a great connection for fans to to hear that type of thing and i try to work in local connections whenever i can so i'll give you one. This is just a freebie so just free planning purposes week fourteen. They play december thirteenth day. Play game in carolina. There's a running back for the panthers. Not my davis. The kid that came back this week. His name's christian mccaffrey. He played his high school ball at valor and was pretty good here. His dad played receiver for the broncos. And then believe it or not actually sat in the chair that you sit in as the color analyst on the broncos radio network before you took over that job ed mccaffrey if you remember that name. So that's a good one. I worked aware of that. yeah week. Fourteen gershon mccaffrey worth noting local good local ties there. That could come up in the broadcast. I think ed is the coach at unc right now. So there's that yeah. I'm sure that will get worked in very pretty easily. Like captain obvious right. I would hope it would be like what's the point of even bringing that up. It would be funny if you if you do the game in. Don't mention it at all. Just treat them like another player. Everybody listening to dumb dave christians. Dad played for the denver broncos eight whenever him one more thing about the broadcast. Are kevin harlan's on on the tv call again this week and at least the afternoon shows isolated this and then i sent it around to everybody but albert alberto right after. He was drafted pronounced his name. The way you know someone asks hey. How do you pronounce your name. So we have it from zoom gall. I know they've played in the afternoon. Show because kevin in so many other announcers have been butchering it. Kevin came into the booth and asked you guys how to pronounce it. And i hadn't listened to the tv call. I heard he still butchered at that game the second week i guess i was the chiefs game so i was going to texted her. Email it to kevin this week and now without getting hurt. I guess i don't have to worry about that but That was gonna be my plan with with harlan this week on on the game to get that name right but yeah that was strange. I and i love kevin harlan east. Great what he does. He came into our booth Pre-game and he goes. Okay guys all right listen. How do you pronounce this guy's name. And i told him. I said well. This is how he pronounced way boone up and he went okay oak way. Bernama said yes. I said that's how he pronounces his name and he says okay. Okay okay buna yes okwuegbunam okay. And he walks out and then i heard he did during the game. He put his name again. So you know. He's he's not going to have to worry about that again. The rest of the season unfortunately for albert. I wonder. I wonder 'cause i'm going to try to talk to them later in the week. I wonder maybe. I will send it to him just to have it for posterity if he works it in about when they go through the injuries. Justin nail it. So that broncos all right kevin finally got it and he can redeem himself. You know he lived in kansas city for so many years. He lives north of green bay. Now i think ninety nine percent of the time had he stayed in kc in recent years he would have heard them talking about albert alvarado on the radio because he played his college ball at mizzou. So i'm gonna let you run. Because i already so away more your time though it gets dark early and you can't ride your bike in snowstorm sell. You're the best. And i will track you down next week. Thank you so much. thanks for having me. So there's rick lewis. Follow him on twitter. Instagram at one. Rick lewis the radio doctors. I like to call them. You know he's trying to get an honorary doctor. I don't think that's gone anywhere though. He hasn't been. We'll get one yet but we'll keep working on it. Maybe university of phoenix global won't give him an honorary doctorate. All right tomorrow hoping to track down big al later in the week fingers crossed will go behind enemy lines with j t the brick usually get that done on reiter week and maybe kevin. Harlan will finally quit ducking me. Now i'm just kidding with kevin harlan during the game this weekend so It'll be good to talk to a fellow. Jayhawk and i imagine He's excited he didn't have to say albert okwuegbunam name. So all right. I appreciate listen. We'll catch you next time. On the broncos daily podcast levy. Today's meditation with the few sipping exercises to remind desa little treat can go a long way so pick up your mcafee. iced coffees. Close your eyes and deep sip and deep satisfaction out. I think a treat retreat. Mcdonald's right now could mcafee iced coffee any size and any flavor for just ninety nine cents until eleven. Am price of participation may vary.

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The Dimitroff Years: 2015

The Falcoholic

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The Dimitroff Years: 2015

"Belco hawley podcast. Official podcast falcons on the espy nation. Podcast network the state walker. Today's special podcast review of the thomas. Dmitrov years annabel things to help me with this task by special guests to join me on each of these episodes as we break down the trades. Free agent signings and of the draft picks made in dmitrov era. My guest today is on each one of our writers at alcohol dot com on none. Thanks for joining me. Of course happy to be here looking back on a off. Fantastic twenty fifteen season. This is gonna be very interesting and as you mentioned. We are diving into two thousand fifteen. Which is the first season under new head coach. Dan quinn so to set up what the season was about. Let's talk about what came into the two thousand fifteen season so obviously the two thousand fourteen season ended with a six ten season Head coach mike smith who had been with the team since two thousand eight Was fired Surprisingly i think too many people thomas dmitrov was retained. of course we are still talking about him And dan quinn came in. He was hired After a search by some committees the falcons had hired He had already. They also brought in offensive coordinator kyle shanahan. Of course many falcons fans still miss that particular coach this day and for the second year in a row the falcons would go into the draft with a pick in the top ten having finished four and twelve the year before six ten. What's your the falcons would have yet another top ten pick and of course we will talk about that in the second half. Podcast will get into the two thousand fifteen draft class but before we talk about the draft on non one to talk about. What the falcons did in free agency This was a pretty interesting lists because it wasn't just about the guys a kept it was about some of the guys that they brought in and almost as much about the guys that they let walk because obviously when a new coach comes in. It's normal for there to be a lot of turnover. I think even back when we covered dan quinn. Being hired we talked about the fact that his former head coach pete carroll when he came into the seahawks almost completely revamped the roster. They're in a very short period of time so it would not be a big surprise it. Dan quinn would do something similar. So wanna talk about some of these departures because some of them. I think we're going to have some fun talking about the first name on the list particular The first name to go for the falcons. I wanna talk about a sam baker. He was given the big contract Two thousand fourteen. The falcons drafted jake matthews and originally matthews was supposed to play right tackle but sam baker yet again got injured early on in the season. And that's when jake had to take over on the left side as a rookie M baker obviously came with a massive amount of money of the contract that he was given a with your thoughts on this former first round. Pick hitting the road in. Never playing the nfl again. I think it's it says something. That The falcons gave him that massive contract and then after they parted ways with him he never ended up playing the nfl again showing that he sam baker is just the perfect example of cognitive dissonance with thomas. Demetrius and a lot of gm's do this. But he was a demo troughs first round pick his second first round. Pick in two thousand eight. Remember the falcons got matt ryan and then dimitrov trade back into the first round to get a sam baker and sam baker was oft injured. He wasn't that great in his first few years. Certainly inaugurate enough to justify that contract and then he has twenty twelve season where he puts puts things kind of together and the entire team You know puts everything together for a thirteen and three run. And then thomas dimitrov is like see yes like. He was worth the first round pick. And then he doubles down on allegation validation instead of recognizing the sunk cost in looking at his entire career like trajectory. You look at his one season in a contract year of like you know being good. I'm not even gonna say great. He wasn't like a pro bowl. Or anything ryan gives them that terrible contract in. This is just like another one of those examples for why dimitrov shouldn't have been retained with After mike smith's got fired after twenty fourteen. Because it's like bro. That was terrible. Contract is that team was awful. Like i know. We're talking about baker right now but i remember Watching the team in week. Seventeen loss against carolina thinking to myself like these are the players on the field right now and i was putting a lot of blame on metro because of the roster that was like on the field. I know it was like a joint effort. But it wasn't just mike smith so you know when baker god It was a was a good riddance moment. But you know he loved it. He loved very very big parting gift. Allworth dead cap. Which i don't think we like ended up shutting it until like very recently. Yeah and that's I think if there's a contract that people point to that was the worst that dimitrov ever handed out. It has to be sam baker that has to be the top of the list. All right some other guys that departed. Justin blalock starting left guard for many years Ended up retiring so that left a hole of course on the offensive line. Two guys that leaving team that were drafted by dmitrov in previous years Corey peters weatherspoon both ended up signing with the cardinals We know how spoons career has turned out. Peter's is still playing and is a quality player in this league has has last longtime your thoughts on these. Two guys being Hitting the road on. I actually really wanted to resign. Peterson time he was he was very very solid. Interior defensive linemen and with weatherspoon. It's different because he was always injured yet. It's not his fault but he had his moments in twenty twelve's but in the end it's the best abilities availability and whether spoon was never available seemingly. It is funny with the cardinals They signed john abraham after dimitrov. Cut him way too soon. After twenty twelve with no plan of a you know bringing in any pass rushers in her pass rushers suffered ever since then he was like a pro bowler with the cardinals a year later. So then they're like all right. Let's let's dip back into like the falcons reserves in like what was he would also for said kept going with robert alford two so the cardinals just kept kept a close eye on dimitrov's cuts in on our defensive agents over the years it's so true some additional names will go through these pretty quickly harry. Douglas obviously drafted in two thousand eight. He ended up leaving the team signing with the titans after having a thousand yard season in two thousand thirteen with falcons robert mclane longtime nickel corner. Who i felt was one of the actually one of dmitrov better free agent signings in his time atlanta. He ended up leaving for the patriots Quizz rodgers Left the team was signed with the bears. In stephen jackson ended up being cut and Was not signed anywhere else so harry. Douglas robert mclean Quiz rodgers stephen jackson any thoughts on this list of guys ended up leading the team on the i. I always thought that. Harry douglas owed half is paycheck to matt ryan after that because like matt ryan is the one who got him paid like completely with that twenty thirteen season That's why whenever someone like argues. That matt ryan is a product of his receivers around him. It's like bro heathrow. For like forty five hundred yards in two thousand thirteen or even more than that. I forget how much it was. And he made harry douglas until a one thousand yard receiver. And then like with the titans harry. Douglas was just he was just like nowhere to be found like he was not good with the titans and then after parting with titans he's now on in on atlanta sports radio on the end of his career Yes stephen jackson. Twenty fourteen was one of those infuriating years where you knew that. Devante freeman was better than stephen jackson but the coaching staff just like kept going with the old veteran. And it's like all right were Stephen jackson is like been through the grind before like. Yeah he's been through like a massive grind as a running back that's why he's not effective anymore so it was one of those things where the jackson signing just never worked out He he was not very good was over the hill. With the falcons in those two years and he was just blocking the path of devante freeman. And we we learn in two thousand fifteen devante freemen actually was like you know it was egos even worse like when we found out in twenty fifteen. The devante freeman was a pro bowl level running back who won a lot of fantasy leagues. And you know who had just one of the best. Years as a falcons running back michael turner in two thousand eight. Yeah yep absolutely so closing out the list of guys with end up leaving. the team. Drew davis longtime wide receiver and special teamer. A bear. pascoe who i completely forgot was on the team The prior year Johnson former third round pick Offensive tackle offensive guard stayed injured way too long offensive. Tackle gabe karimi was cut. And josh wilson havi arenas and then safety dwight lowery who ended up signing with the colts. So these are the guys that left There there were more names Not really notable. But you can see. That's a pretty extensive list for the beginning of the dan. Quinn to try to rebuild this roster Guys they kept and there's just a few names here The number one on the list has to be in my mind. Kicker matt bryant who they gave a three year deal worth eight point five million In this season. Obviously i think looking back. This one was a no brainer Your thoughts on them keeping matt bryant in this season. Oh absolutely no brainer. I remember my. Brian was brought in in two thousand like november of two thousand nine. Because jason was just terrible apart absolutely fell apart and it was once specific game against the panthers where he missed two big kicks. In the falcons lost by like one point or something like that and then they went. Got my brian who was cut by the bucks. And i think he was in was the cfl or something like that. It wasn't like another league and brian dislike was glistening from the start and had this at this point he was one of the league's best kickers. And you know it's a three year deal and we saw what he ended up doing like the next three years. He was absolutely automatic. He ended up becoming The falcons all time leading scorer after a while. So that was that was a great thing when it happened very lucky signing because I always say if if everyone knew that he was gonna be that good. He would have been a free agent in november. But in the end. Odd the falcons. The falcons got their money's worth and then some map prime. Yes and i think the thing that's worth pointing out here too is matt was. He was not a young at this point. He was way past his prime supposedly but certainly have plenty of leg left in his in his career. Some of the other guys that The falcons kept wide receiver. Eric weems they signed to a two year. Two point eight million deal quarterback. tj eights completely. Forgot that he was On the team. Something about the falcons and former texans quarterback says their backups is really weird as well. You were talking about some of the tendencies of the cardinals welfare. Signing former texans quarterbacks t h one year deal worth one point five million Running back antone. Smith when you deal worth one point. Four million and safety charles godfrey one year deal one point two five million so any thoughts on some of these guys. They kept onto the team on Keep remembering anton smith in twenty fourteen. It's like every single time. This may touch the wall. He'd go for a touchdown and we five touches four touchdowns in like three games like long touchdowns like he was watching his speed and everything. In another case of mike. Smith deciding to pound the rock with us stephen jackson instead and just never utilize i like. I can't imagine what it would have been like if if kyle shanahan was here. And we had anton smith like you know in primates on smith twenty fourteen inch smith not like off injured of later on anton smith. But you know let's neither here nor there You know. Eric weems is someone that the team brought back because they were comfortable with him. he was. He was well past his prime. At this point he was a pro bowler in two thousand ten. And you know he was a he was a heckler tournament back then but then we saw you know twenty fifteen twenty sixteen years. He was a human fair catch like never never he never like did really anything to flip the field or to give the falcons a distinct advantage with the punt return game. Kind of like what we see now. Yeah yep exactly And i do want to say for for williams. He was at least incredibly good on the coverage side as well. You know he. He did sort of cut his teeth as a guy that not only fielded the kicks and punts but also on the coverage side and and did a fairly good job at that But as you know definitely past his prime at this point all right. Let's talk about some of the free agent signings because there some had forgotten about some of these names. But i will say when i went through. This list researching this podcasts. At the time. I was actually reminded that this was in my mind. A decent set of free agent signings. I think especially for the money that was given out. So let's go through some these The first one on my list tied in jacob tammy who was given a two year deal where three point two million your thoughts on tammy because i i feel like that was the the first sort of value signing that. I think actually had a really big impact on the falcons for this season. He was a big time. Contributor for the falcons Like not like. He wasn't like tony gonzales levels. But he was a great bridge the gap between tony. Gonzalez's in What we saw from austin hooper later. On after the falcons robert hooper in twenty sixteen years. He was a real good contributor to that. Super bowl team You know it was it was. This was a really solid. Signing on the falcons did some bargain shopping. I think dimitrov display was known as someone who wasn't gonna Dish out big money to free agents. He didn't. I don't think until alex mack a year later and even then that was probably because his job was a little bit on the line and because of the kyle shanahan connection of being a cleveland's offense coordinator so it was This was this was a really good signing and you know the rest of these names on the list. That was a lot of a lot of bargain bin shop in which i thought point pelican's fans come to expect and was somewhat necessary. You know obviously. The falcons became a very top heavy organization with matt ryan. Julio jones getting big contracts. But i will say i think tammy to your point was a good value signing and was not tony gonzales. But for what he was paid. You know one point six million a year. Nfl like the productivity was there Next name analyst This is the biggest contract they will hand out in two thousand fifteen season and that was to linebacker brooks reed who got a five year deal worth twenty two million. So obviously the the golden locks of brooks read or wetli people are gonna remember but he was a decent player in his time atlanta. He wasn't a game changer. Certainly wasn't the pass rusher that we hope to obey Solid against iran just a a good rotational guy your thoughts on read and and what he meant to the team in dame quinn's tenure. I mean it's when you assign a five year deal and you end up on the team for four years. It's it's a pretty good indication that you were either. You are a solid signing or that contract structure was like terrible to the point where the team couldn't get rid of you but you know in case it was the former Twenty sixteen in that playoff run. It was really that playoff run was pretty remarkable in that all of these players who were draft picks who were free agent signings like they all came together and it felt like everyone made a contribution to at least one of those two. Nfc aw wins. Between the seahawks and the packers i remember burrito to really good game against the seahawks and then a year later against the bears. We remember his like his heroics in week one That game winning sock had those up to sox not once you're dead yet. He was never like a great. Like sack guy He never really wasn't his career as career. High was his rookie year with six but in fairness read he wasn't someone you were expecting to bring in into just like fix the pass rush cost more than like four point five million dollars a year for that but it was. This was another one where you know it was it was a really it was a decent value signing a very fair contract. All around. yeah. I agree next thing unless linebacker justin durant three years. Ten point eight million. I also liked signing the falcons. Obviously they had issues at the linebacking position and he was a a solid veteran. Again he would stay with the falcons for a couple of years. your thoughts on durant of drink was just unfortunate because durant was always like oft injured like very like You know very injured player throughout his entire career. You said relatively healthy in his in his one year. With the falcons in twenty fifteen. He played thirteen games off the dion jones dropping him i think it kind of made drain a bit expendable and team opted to you know. Save the cap space with him. What sticks out most of the justin durant. I remember after he after we signed him He tweeted out along. The lines of off to eighty. Five is the worst highway alike in the entire country. Like what is this and then everyone was replying to them. They're like welcome to atlanta man. I forgot about that as so true. Oh my god yeah. He was I will say at For what we paid him. Probably a little bit too much Again with the injury history. But i felt like he did a good job in two thousand fifteen. The bridge the gap Next on the list wide receiver. Leonard henderson at the blossom. The us tiptoeing. You had stone hands and was brought an he played in washington with call shanahan one year deal worth one million. I'd liked this contract because number one. It was receiver that had experience with a offensive coordinator. Kyle shanahan Number two whether fans wanted to admit it or not the wheels had fallen off. Roddy white he was not the same receiver. He used to be In this season sort of cemented that it was such a cheap deal it was for one year one million dollars. It was just above minimum Even though hankison didn't turn out to be much of a contributor this year or or significant anyways. What were your thoughts on hankison in again. I feel like it's one of those like no risk signings dmitrov. I'm never gonna complain over a one year. One million dollar contract is because like you said it's just no risk to it at all and it was. It was like a healthy role of the dice. It was a worthy gamble. See see what we can get. You know in fairness he. He had a greg game against the giants that that season like. You know it was. Week was week to win against the giants. I think it was a week to he. Pretty much one. Is that game. I think that in of itself pretty much justified signing yeah. He played eight games. For the falcons didn't work out. I think he's lost. I saw from hankison. it was a few years ago. I think it was selling used cars at this point. Yeah his His tendency the drop passes to was a bit. That'll make you public enemy number. One with van base real quick man. We've have way too much of that over the years With with the falcons all right couple of guys tony tight. End tony miaki. He never actually took the field for the falcons. They brought him on Offensive guard slash center. Mike person three year deal where three point six million. I remember online. The beginning of the two thousand fifteen season when the falcon started five and mike person was given a ton of credit for stabilizing the center position after several years with a guys like oh you know joe holly who who ended up not even got cut in In the moving onto the bucks in yet. I think his first five games did not tell the full story of ways seizing would be But your thoughts on person. Because he i mean. He ended up being a starter. For a bit of the season It was mostly starter out of necessity. I correct me if i'm wrong. But mike person he wasn't really a center coming into that season now he was always a guard and it was one of those situations where you kind of thrust him into the center position. Just out of sheer necessity. That that's why. I don't really blame him for his struggles at yours because it was it was an unknown position for him that he had never really played like the nfl level. Now it's like our yard starting center this year but man that was the year where he had. You could tell he hadn't played it just because of all the fumbles he had. He led all non non skill position players at year with four. Fumbles in for your starting center. Fumbled the ball four times. That's ridiculously awful United he had some really an opportune fumbles to get some of the worst moments which again not also turned the fan base against him. And i think after that the team realized that with the position we can't just go. We can't just cheap out on it the way we just did again so so then that was. That was what convinced i. I'm sure the team to sign alex mack more than anything. Yeah definitely and with the the brunt of attack guys. I had center since The retirement of tom mcclure Mike person stands out as one of the ones who was the most desperate as mentioned the fact guy had not played center before. And you know to be fair those first five games. He played well. But then it really. The wheels came off after that played well in the first five games. Yeah exactly start five hundred finish eight. Something went wrong last name lists in. We're going to take a break and go into. The draft was linebacker. O'brien scofield who had a history of playing with the seahawks sudan. Quinn was very familiar with him. when you're deal worth one point seven million It was funny. He got a lot of hype. From falcons fans who just loved this guy one while he was with the team so I don't remember him doing anything particularly impressive. Atlanta's seemed like he had like one or two decent games. But your thoughts on scofield. O'brien scofield was a great boca leader on. And that's what made the fan base fall in love with him and he was a you know. I think he did the dirty bird a couple times. Everyone's like god look at him now. Got about that. And i do remember was like After we parted ways a year later the fan base was just like up in arms of all. Why are we not resigning. O'brien scofield likely. You know bring him back acting like he was dion jones or like proble player. And do remember this falcons group. I had someone asks a really good question. They said Other than being a leader in doing the dirty birds literally. What has o'brien scofield done. And i don't think anyone had like you know a legitimate answer to that. So that's where you knew. It's like all right like the fan base. The fan base gets gets gets high. Gets over hyped on some of these players very quickly. Sometimes yeah that has happened more than once for sure okay. so we've talked about free agencies. Some of the guys the falcons brought in and let go. Obviously the big talk is going to be the first draft class under new head coach. Dan quinn this is a doozy. This'll be fun to talk about before we do that. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. We're back on the falcons podcast. This is david walker. I am joined by fellow writer at the alcoholic on e. catch. We're covering the two thousand fifteen season. Under former falcons gem thomas dmitrov. We talked about free agency in the first half. Now it's time to talk about the two thousand fifteen draft class. This one is going to be fun. Obviously i wanna start off by talking about the first four or five in this draft class. Because i think we forget you know we think we remember if you will our own Failure in this draft and this was sort of a disaster in the first several picks so number one jameis winston With tampa marcus. Mariota with the titans number three dante fowler. Whose falcon with jacksonville. The reform art cooper to oakland still in the league still playing fairly well but with dallas number five brandon. Sheriff is probably the first player in this top ten that really panned out for the team that he was drafted by. And then you know. The falcons several picks later would get their shot. I wanna say we all know who the name is If you don't then you're gonna get a wake up call here just a second. I wanna say it was pretty clear. Coming in the falcons have a need at the past rush position. They had had need frankly since two thousand thirteen. When john abraham was allowed to walk or was cut. I'm sorry he was cut by the team Over the years Thomas dmitrov brought in guys like ray edwards osi umenyiora To try to fix the pass rush and it's never been good as when it was With abraham on the team so that said with the number eight pick in the first round out of clemson university. The falcons took vic beasley defensive. End pass rusher edge player odd non. Obviously we know how this is panned out at this point and i wanna point out a couple of things. So number one of the pass rushers taken in the first round dante fowler vic beasley. Let's see here Leonard williams bud. Depre- eric armstead beasley of. These guys is second in total sacks with thirty seven point five in his career so far but depre- has thirty nine point five in obviously still with pittsburgh In bud dupree twenty two. So what are your thoughts on this. Pick obviously we have hindsight now but even just looking at the pick at the time What are your thoughts on Vic beasley all. I was super happy about it at the time because he wasn't supposed to fall the eight. I think brennan sheriff getting taken by the redskins out was unexpected. Everyone thought that the redskins were probably gonna go for a pass. Rusher in may be beasley himself. It was. He was a really good player at clemson in college. And you know it's easy to look back off. That was a bust of a but at the time pass rusher was easily the biggest need on the team and probably still is all these years later announced but yeah beasley he like. I do remember i. I recall in two thousand fourteen like a year earlier Beasley had already made his name clemson and us jarring basie at this point now is talking to one of my friends now like man. It would be like fantastic. To for the falcons were to drop big beasley. But you know we're not going to be bad enough this year. We're probably gonna like you know. Make the playoffs and go on until like playoff run. And you know we won't. We won't be picking close close enough to take the top ten but you know that. That didn't pan out the way i was expecting so we were sitting at the eighth big. It was a big debate between beasley and todd. Gurley best player available. Bpa but the falcons didn't have a need running back like devante. Freeman had started coming on strong. The end of the two thousand fourteen season off into is going to be the starting running back in. You know freeman justify the faith that the team had in him by having to pro bowl season in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. It's easier to look back and say the team should have gotten girly. Who you know. Tore the league up with the rams but vic beasley you was. He had that he had that solid. Two thousand sixteen season in solid yet. Bent asked twenty sixteen season. and i think Like we'll talk about with the second name on the list. I feel like if the if the falcons would have just finished the job against the patriots in super bowl. Fifty one we'd be looking back on this and saying all right vic beasley like you know. He didn't really last with the team after his rookie contract but it was justified. You know more so than ever because he helped the team win. The super bowl helped him get to the super bowl and win it. Even if he didn't he wasn't great in the playoffs he demanded so much tension in the playoffs. That it It opened things up for other players. The pass rushers overall on. This list weren't great bud. Dupree was the best one you mentioned. There was also also shane. Ray who ended up onto the broncos. There's lamed fast to you've flamed out. There was rainy. Gregory who at one point was like thought of as a top ten pick but then like you know the drug The drug failures ended up. Just tanking him all the way down to the cowboys like a number of runs later it was on it. Herbs are ignorant went down. He felt sixty all the way to sixty now looking at a friend. Clark sixty three actually knows a hell of a pick but i. i think i'm not mad at the vic beasley pick you know just because it's easy to talk about hindsight. I will give a lot of crowded mel kiper though because i remember he was bashing on the pick up and he was on beasley. Only has the one speed rush move and you know he has no counter moves and how he was going to like a struggle on the nfl. And you know me being a bias fan. I'm like what is melkite for. No like like maybe he should shut up But yeah he he was ended up being completely right and you know full respect to him. There's there's a reason why these guys get paid the big bucks. Yeah no kidding and in fairness very few of the first round pass rushers worked out as you mentioned. You know. bud dupree. I think the exception here Shane ray flamed out was out of the league. Two thousand eight. Obviously dante fowler were experiencing at first hand right now in honestly it wasn't until the later rounds like preston smith went in the second round Went to washington in this. Been a good player in the league Marcus golden who has thirty two and a half sacks in his career went in the second round Probably the the best pass rusher out of this class was in the third round in the hunter who was drafted by minnesota. So i i think this is a reminder that you know when it comes to the draft edge rushers in quarterbacks are can be overvalued in the first round and a lot of times you can go through an entire first round and not find the guy you know i. It's look at two quarterbacks in this class neither or with their drafting team at this point in that that is such a big Big miss of for for a those teams so Yeah i liked. The pick is well. Actually i will say in the time. I didn't think we're going to get beasley. And i was pounding the table for duprey. I thought debris was an athletic freak I thought that he could be a guy that could grow into the role over time. So yeah maybe. In hindsight i was i was happy when we got beasley. Because i was with you. I think he was gonna make it all the way to us at eight. I thought for sure another team was gonna take him but alas we ended up with him all right second round pick. This one was interesting. Because we've heard some stories now in hindsight that make this one a more interesting. I guess you could say At the number seventy three pick in the second round the falcons. I'm sorry number. Forty two pick in the second round of lsu. The falcons took jalen collins cornerback. Obviously you said it perfectly if we had won the super bowl. Two thousand sixteen. I think a lot of people would look at what collins did in particular in the end of the two thousand sixteen season and going to play offs and said he didn't work out but man he shirted workout in two thousand sixteen season. That was great instead. We're talking about this guy being a complete bust and we had heard that the falcons were looking at Landon collins the safety. Who would ultimately be taken by the giants at the top of the second round. And i don't know how much truth there is to. The story is just what we heard. we heard that the falcons were targeting a collins and then when he came off the board they were so caught off guard that they grabbed another call instead. I want. i don't want to believe it because it sounds so preposterous. And yet it's the falcons which makes me think it is a distinct possibility. That is what happened. Especially since landon. Collins was actually a very is a very very good player. Your thoughts on on on jalen collins in his time with the falcons. I i do honestly i believe fully that the was targeting landon collins just because a year later they took your neil in the first round so Also ski safeties are so important in dan quinn scheme overall so. I would not have been surprised if you're looking for safety early often but of course pass rusher trumped all all needs so that's why won't without beasley with the big but i mean yeah jalen collins he was. I think we were all a bit surprised when that was the pick in the second round. I think that was one of those. Dan quinn specials where it's like oh who like him really like i thought you know is not a bit of a reach by. He was you know. He fit all of the dan. Quinn you know. He felt the Mold as a cornerback of very tall lengthy physical guy went to lsu So you those are all things that just loves and you know like will like i briefly mentioned. He was really good in two thousand sixteen after dozen true fallen down here the point where the team would have won like the super bowl that pick would have been justified. The rasheed haeggman pick from twenty. Fourteen would have probably been justified because of the great nfc championship game. He had it was. But you know losing that game instead of instead of justifying the pick i think it soured people more on collins because he really got picked on in that super bowl game all that second half of than you know fouls in other drug tests and he ended his career getting burns in week. Four of the preseason later yeah it sort of a rough rough path for him and as you mentioned just being a knucklehead which we knew when we drafted him it was no big surprise And i think some people were pleasantly surprised at the falcons took a chance on because he had a ton of upside and we knew that the biggest question mark with him was going to be more about the mental game. Whether or not he could stay in and stay clean at the nfl level. Obviously he struggled with that even as he Had a very short career in the nfl. I think he was done after two sixteen. He hasn't been back so definitely. I think a big a big miss their next name on this list. And i wanna point out some guys in the second round right. After jalen collins houston took Banal drik mckinney Linebacker eric kendricks win a couple of picks later a obviously the falcons had a need at linebacker. Both those guys. I think would have been Excellent picks Especially since both guys are still playing in the league. Collins is not a little bit later in this round you think about the the fact. That the falcons Offensive line was still sort of patchwork You've got you know. Ali market Who went towards back end of the second like dolly marquette pet like i really liked him coming out and unfortunately he's now in the division with tampa and a obviously you mentioned earlier frank clark at the second last pick in the second round. So you know it's sometimes it's looking back on these draft classes that make some of these mrs even more painful when you realize. Oh my god we could have this guy could have the sky and you realize they with collins instead But then again. I want to say when it comes to frank clark. Every team passed on him at least once in in most teams in the league passed on him a second time before seattle grabbed him at the back and second so As you get into late around. I don't think it spare to overly criticize the team for missing on some of these guys because every team in many ways missed on these guys right third round. Pick pick number. Seventy three of indiana. The falcons took running back. Tevin coleman the one thing. I will never forget during the draft. Talk of this guy was We heard repeatedly bad scheme fit. And obviously a when you hear people say that. Don't trust that they know what they're saying because If if anything many of us were confused by this pick we thought. Hey you know. Devante freeman was sitting a year. We thought for sure he would become the starter. I think a lot of people saw tevin coleman that said oh man they're just gonna go ahead and give up on freeman and obviously that did not end up being the case and coleman really would make an impact until two thousand sixteen his two thousand fifteen was relatively quiet but whether your thoughts on picking that running back in the third round in what he ended up doing with falcons. Yeah i mean. Coleman was great In college indiana. And this felt like a full. Kyle shanahan fake. It felt like Shanahan was like all right. You guys got your like. I two round defensive players. Now let's start addressing the offense a little bit. And i think the plan was to give kevin coleman that starting job and to have devante freeman. Continue to be a backup because not first game against the eagles. Coleman had twenty carries an eye game got eighty yards. And i remember the fan. Base was just enamored with you. Know eighty yards on. Aw overall four yards per carry. Because the past two years. We had been watching gum. Stephen jackson running quick we're in quicksand so it was a A week later i remember. He had that rib injury in an devante freeman. Took over the starting job and just never looked back Freeman was just fantastic against the cowboys had three touchdowns three touchdowns against the texans and then coleman was kind of a came back to like reserve role in two thousand sixteen china and did a great job of utilizing. Both coleman an freeman as the best one two punch among running backs in the league that year yet. Yeah so this was overall a a real good pick in the third round like he called me didn't make passes rookie contract but given all that he did For the falcons in twenty sixteen in the two thousand seventeen was overall pick. I liked it and a lot of credits. Coleman who worked a ton between two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen become a better receiver and as we saw in the two thousand sixteen season. Both he and davante were incredible. Receivers out of the backfield and In particular. I remember coleman's game against the broncos in two thousand sixteen where You know they leaned on him heavily. And he i think he has a receiving touchdown that game in He had a fantastic game against a really. Really good broncos defense in that game so i love the pick a felt like again. You hear Some other guys went in the third round. The same draft class jordan hicks outside linebacker. A little bit later on Obviously a big name in this round was danielle. Hunter pass rusher out of minnesota and again you know fifty four and a half sacks over his career has obviously been a really really good. Pass rusher in the nfl. I just wanted to say every team passed on him twice. He made it all way to third rail So i don't want to give the falcons too much crap. In honestly. coleman was a pick at that point as well so I like it. And i felt like even in hindsight we can look back in agree. This is you know. Pretty pretty solid. Pick for thomas metro okay. Fourth round number one. Zero seven out of issue falcons took wide receiver. Justin hardy hardy. Was dave coates best friend. Yeah i we talked earlier about harry. Douglas moving on from the team in in going to the titans justin hartley felt like a replacement for that. Obviously julio jones Roddy white were still on the team. And you know a lot of people thought that hardy could come in and be a just a pure slot receiver Great hands absolutely phenomenal. And the massive hands. If i remember right from the common and just measured like enormous hands He was quick not fast but he seemed to be a decent receiver in in obviously was incredibly productive college. So what are your thoughts on justin hardy and what he ended up doing with the team like he was number four wide receiver. You know with the team. Great hands I said If you were to combine his hands with maybe All of calvin ridley tools for example. You'd have may be the greatest wide receiver in the league. The kidding on by Overall like you know shorts fourth-rounder it ended up. Being kind of a waste of before under like hardy. Never really did anything with the team you know. He likes the moments here and there. But you know he did come into Did come into the nfl. Having all one via the birth worth trophy for outstanding walk on he had think the fbi division one record for most receptions already see you so you know was a college legend but a doesn't always translate into the nfl. Yeah exactly all right. Some other guys that went in the fourth round that went after a hearty jamison crowder went to picks before hardy. So obviously can't nail the falcons for that all the way down at number one twenty four alexander. Who honestly i think it's probably overrated linebacker. But it's still a decent player still in the league but probably the most notable will be shaq mason At number one thirty one who is a center in still playing league in. Oh yeah. Let's not forget. Syria smith who was a pass rusher has forty four and a half sacks So again it sort of an upside down draft class for pass rushers where you've got guys in the third fourth round who have more More combined sacks in the guys in the first round So again just shows you sort of erotic nature of the nfl in where some of these guys end up delivering all right next pick. This one's gonna make us happy. The falcons actually traded up in the fifth realm to move up to number one thirty seven and out of clemson the second player. They would take clemson defensive. Tackle greg jarrett. I think we can look at The fifth round here and looks to fund digs would go at number one forty six. He is a phenomenal receiver. Obviously not still not when not minnesota anymore but Great pick their. Maybe you know you've got tyler davidson. Who has taken a little bit later. Obviously he's with the falcons and is is a decent interior player but bar. None grady jarrett. Who went at the very first pick and the for fifth round one thirty seven. He is the best player out of this fifth round and probably one of the best defensive player's out of this entire draft. So what are your thoughts on the falcons in particular dmitrov making the move moving up to that number that top. Pick in the fifth round to grab greg. Jarrett goes the greatest drop Troughs tenure all looking at everything. You know obviously. There was matt ryan julio jones but when you take value into consideration of a great job being a fifth rounder like matt ryan was the third overall pay julio jones you had to trade pretty much entire drop cloths to move up. Get him at six. But jared was you know in the fifth round in it was unacceptable. Even at the time at the time for jared to fall to the fifth round like you was super productive in in clemson in a fantastic college player in the only real knock on him was that he was short. He was like six feet tall That was kind of a ridiculous thing for you. Know a player to get knocked so much from the drop. All the to the fifth round like jared should have been a second second rounder probably given like everything off taking everything into consideration. The you know it's The falcons gain they moved up. I remember you know. He's also a toggle son so it was. You know it was. It was a great moment. Jessie tuggle announced the pick and he immediately got a lot of sports from the fan base of the so i. I wonder where. The where where jared goes. If there's like a full redraft twenty fifteen class like you know how top of the second if not in the first easily doll i mean like i thinking. Oh no i'm thinking more like he'd be top ten like ed this entire drive classmate like i mean if there's a redraft like right now like today He was you know fanta and this is one of those where you know. We've gone through each round and we're like. Oh while the falcons could have also gotten this guy who's a better pick. Who would have been. Better peg the falcons could have gotten this guy. Notes hindsight twenty twenty. But this is the pick where the falcons got him and this is other teams being like well. Yeah like a seattle. Yeah we got trae pool. But we could have gotten grady jared Break got john feliciano but we have got dirty or you know. The reagan got allen L. and dollars could have been jerry so it was. It was one of those where this one is. full like. full-on hit. There is no player after him that you would have rather had. Yeah in. I scanned through this draft class. When i was like oh man Especially from this point forward as you go through the six round and into the seventh round there is just no one Maybe maybe trent brown in the seventh round guard with the central cisco but that's it and Otherwise like grady jarrett was the best pick honestly for the remainder of the draft easily. And as you mentioned probably would be a top ten pick if you re drafted this entire class so and rightfully so he's been one of the best interior pass rushers in the nfl Since since he came into the league and who can forget who can forget his performance in the super bowl where he just absolutely was a destroying the patriots offensive line handedly It is a shame that we have not paired him with any other guys in that right now even this two thousand and twenty season. It's literally grady jarrett and a bunch of dudes so sad but hopefully hopefully the next coaching staff next gm will address that finally finally close out the draft Just two last names both taken in the seventh round. Both of these guys ultimately wouldn't do much in league number two twenty five out of eastern washington offensive lineman jack rogers and that new number two forty nine out of san jose state safety slash corner a keen king near these guys. Worked out with the falcons or with any other team in. Its the seventh round on hammer. Too much on these guys So with that on non. We've gone through free agency. We've gone through the draft. Why don't you give me your great if you will for. What dmitrov did the free agency what he did. In the draft and ultimately the job differ the two thousand fifteen season it was. It was a pretty solid offseason overall. I'd probably give it Maybe like a b minus Just because none like you got. You got some nice contributors. You didn't really Wait let let me let me Redo let's make it a solid. Be not to be minus over. Just because grady jarrett was just that good of a pick you know he was like a a game changer. But you know nobody else really like in free agency. You didn't really get any any real game changers You know in the drop vic beasley was was solid for year. But you know that's a top ten. Pick where he didn't make it past his rookie contract. you know. i know we talked about like in the moment but now that we have the gift of hindsight beasley wasn't like you know fantastic. Pick collins was a bust. Coleman was solid jarrett was really good. But you know there was a lot of foundational pieces here Which resulted in that. Super bowl like a lot of a lot of good contributors solid. You know with the super bowl. Of course. we know about a freeman. We know about matt ryan jones. There were a lot of these guys who were worker bees so to speak and in helping the team get to that point and i feel like again had we won the super bowl. We'd be looking at this draft class this overall free agency in a different light because we'd be like oh well jalen collins had great twenty sixteen in we probably don't win the super bowl without like him stepping up and Yeah stepping into it. So you know that's that's a shame but overall that's just how it goes without with evaluating the past. So this was it was all in. We saw grady. Jared to to show for it at this point. And he's been he's been absolutely fantastic. So i this wasn't twenty twelve. You know at the twenty thirteen off season at all so this was. This was one of demetrius better. I know better off seasons. Yeah i would tend to agree in obviously is the precursor to what would i think ultimately his best offseason in two thousand sixteen But he did solid work in this one and again i feel like vic beasley. Obviously we can pick now but at the time it made a ton of sense. He was a consensus. You know top. Pass rusher in this draft class and jalen collins. Lot of people thought he was going to go in the first round so he was a player that many people thought. Oh hey the falcons may have gotten some value here. Even if he didn't work out. And as you mentioned. I think the narrative changes Based on the super bowl and obviously that two thousand sixteen season ended with so much pain than it's hard to see what these guys did in that season in a positive light. Even though both guys had a relatively good to sixteen season. I do feel like i feel like be as the right grade. Greg jarrett is you know. The he's a franchise player and it's hard to find those when you find one in the fifth round. That's a big big win. And i liked the free agent signings i liked tammy i liked brooks read You know. I felt like they made some sensible moves and didn't overspend in free agency in completely with and the guys that they did spend on. It wasn't a lot of money that was lost. So you know. The cap wasn't devastated by like a sam baker type contract dante fowler. Yeah we're dante exactly exactly like dante. Fowler contract So this was. I think more reserved but successful off caesar a season for former. Jim thomas dmitrov so with that. Thank you for joining me on this. Podcast recapping the two thousand. Fifteen season under thomas dmitrov. Won't you tell our listeners. Where can find you what you have going on on you can find me at say would way on twitter. That's a my social media of choice and you know other than that. I'll be breaking down the off season at falco hollick No dropped season Back into it now. It's swallowed the season's already pretty much over at this point You know feels like just yesterday The nfl was announcing that we were gonna play and you know times just flying so you know stick with the fella golic as as a one stop shop. For all of your falcons news and information. Everyone does a fantastic job absolutely again. Thank you for. Join me on this podcast on. We're going to have you back on soon as we cover some different topics As we head into the offseason alcan's s from you guys. You can find me on twitter alcoholic d. w updates podcast hallways pod and of course our articles. Daily at the falcons dot com so for unknown david walker. Thank you guys for listening and we will be covering the two thousand sixteen season varies. Come back for that review. Thanks for talking to you next.

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Surf & Turf: Former 2x Super Bowl Champion, Patriots Center David Andrews

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Surf & Turf: Former 2x Super Bowl Champion, Patriots Center David Andrews

"Surf and turf podcasts. We superbowl champion Willie. Cologne was going on everybody. I am Steven. Shay very exciting weekend of divisional round. Yes they're all some say the best weekend of football in the year. I can see that this week. We've got AFC AN NFC championships. The championship Sunday Dunk and Dan which most people consider the best day of football as far as quality. You got two games the final four. Yeah very exciting. We Got David Andrews Patriots Center the Big Fan of on the on the show today Very great interview very very open like talked a lot about the Patriots. Tom Brady Bill Belichick along with the whole patriots. When you just got it you got it? You gotTA pretend I thought he was very fond of Joe. Judge I'm sure we'll put that clip out and socials well YouTube channel. We subscribe to Youtube Place. No but yeah so some great stories from him. I really good interview but I wanNA talk about This past weekend the Divisional Football Games A couple of things happen. That were very interesting. one of which was it just A shift in the analytical way of thinking so analytics guys are always talking about pass pass pass you know running. The football is good. But you know you don't want to be run heavy but you look at the teams that won this weekend especially on Saturday. You had the San Francisco Forty niners miners who rushed for one hundred. Eighty seven yards which was way more than the Vikings. I think the Vikings had Forty forty total yards rushing so one hundred forty seven yard disparity in that. And then also you look at you know tractor. CEO Derrick Henry Him and the Titans going into Baltimore and shocking the world running over them him. You know being a rush. I think they had over two hundred yards rushing. You know you says shocked the world. I don't think to many were too. Many people were around too. Many people were shocked. I think it was more so I don't think people were shocked. I don't only people were shocked at Tennessee one game I think people are more shocked. How bad tomorrow played again? Right so is the is the common question. The Baltimore beat themselves or Tennessee. Really win that game. I'm on the side. That Tennessee really went out and won that game but I understood. Why have a theory rather On why Baltimore lost again go on well I mean it goes back. Lamar Jackson played last game in a season season Nuruddin marking room. The stars didn't play Pittsburgh pretty much had a chance to you know. Go ahead if they would have beat the Baltimore. Ravens Guide in in happened ally. Tennessee Tennessee goes and by all accounts beats the New England patriots in Foxborough which is extremely hard to do Chuck Chuck double-check loss at his own. Game they ran the ball. They were efficient named. Didn't beat themselves. Ryan Tannehill look good. Tennessee moves on the Baltimore. When you go into the second round of the Playoffs playoff game right that divisional around especially after beat New England Tennessee's confidence was through the roof? They were for them. They had did very had their ahead accomplished a lot of people thought they couldn't -CCOMPLISH so now they're going into a Baltimore. They've already proved it to themselves playing with house money right. They are approved it to themselves that we can take on anybody. Put Us in a ring with anybody we can knock love they go to Baltimore. You're in a play. A Baltimore team. Hasn't technically played in three weeks because it was the last game against Pittsburgh nineteen days in between games right. They didn't play the they had to buy. And then that weekly up to the game. You're talking about a team. The Tennessee titans who running about run a ball their physical outfit. They don't beat themselves. And they flat out get after the quarterback in different facets and then they all by the way to your point they have the best running back in the playoffs. Derek nine goes is Baltimore team. WHO's been out trying to figure it out? You're you're putting in quarterback who by the way his last playoff game. He didn't play that well so his psyche hint plus him being out for three weeks plus top of continuing This kind of Mo in this. Mvp Path that he has taken on. Tennessee was the tougher outfit strong. Alfred more mentally prepared outfit. This is why you do not starters the last week no matter what your playoff. Whatever your implications are you always play your starters because if Lamar Jackson? I'm saying if Lamar Jackson played that at least half against Pittsburgh he would have been more prepared for that game against Tennessee. Because Pittsburgh's a tougher outfit. They pride themselves being physical. They pride themselves running the ball he would have had a better taste and a better feel for what was to come now. He didn't know Tennessee He he didn't know who's GonNa be playing Tennessee. Pittsburgh to lose Feminine Played Tennessee but he would have been more equipped and more mentally prepared. Then I think he was game against Tennessee. Yeah I think it's easy to go back and say that. But like hypothetically Lamar Jackson got hurt or anything like that. Then you're looking at. You always get her Stephen Che. That's football in two thousand seven. The Bucks had left guard. I believe it was was at that time Aaron Sears. who was a very good player and got hurt right before the place because we played in week seventeen and they miss? The wildcard occurred game. And you know it was Kinda curtains for our season I I am a proponent of resting versus Russ but it is that looks like it doesn't sit thus he plays plays them in a practice and they were there and they wear pads. You can't turn that on. You have to continuously trained and disciplined and focus and keep that level of intensity Especially in the playoffs and they lost that. I guess what you can point to that the ravens are fairly young young team. Like Lamar Jackson. is a young quarterbacks. They're young at the receiver position. They're talking about him did you. Did you believe Bolt when you when you saw Tennessee. See in Baltimore play. Did you feel like you're looking at the Baltimore. Ravens meet personally. No I didn't I mean the first drive bill good until Mark Andrews couldn't real in a pass but I think the bigger question with all this is you know everyone had gone to pass the ball past passable. Is that era of football unless you have a patrick. Mahomes is or even Shawn Watson in a losing effort type talent that can throw for a ton yards. Is this formula of defense and running the ball actually the super bowl formula and has nothing really changed. No I think. That's just that's just a makeup of their team their identity I mean they have an office align that a couple of years a couple of years ago when John was with the Pittsburgh steelers you know he complimented that offers a line I think. Derrick Henry Does the same for this office a lot. There let it they do a great job zone blocking he runs downhill and he's able for a guy who is he. Can he can redirect uncut on Don which is hell of impressive. And he runs behind on his pat so I think him and office have chemistry. That's that's their makeup their identity and I think that's what they rely on and I think back to the identity where Mike Gabel came came from being when he was a pat even when he was in Kansas City. He comes from a kind of A. You know a birthing place where running backs are dominating Clinton even though he had brady and but you know when he was the past they still had to give running back and they still had a physical office. So I don't I don't I think Tennessee right now is hungry. They get it and I think they know I think when you have now beaten the pats and you have now been Baltimore. Their confidence it is is is through the roof going into the playoffs. You need that Kana blind confidence like there's no way we're GONNA lose this game and they have it right now so if you're trying to build a team up from scratch your middle of the road team close the playoffs. Or maybe you're just trying to full rebuild. Are you trying to go the you know. Look for a diamond in the rough as far as getting top tier blue chip quarterback Like you know ever for the nets next Patrick Mahomes or are you going to concentrate on the short term. Maybe just get game manager quarterback And you know build around the offense aligning them run game in a fierce defense. All I'm going to build around the office of Line Line in defense alone and 'cause you you need to be able to run a ball you gotta be stopped ball. You get a quarterback commands a game and he don't have to have the big arm he just has. It has to be able to make the right place in situation football. You can go far. Yeah what's interesting is like. That's kind of what the ravens were built around like. There are running team like they ran the ball to death on teams and played good defense. It just didn't work out for them this week. Tennessee pretty much did what they do other teams or did other teams. Yes something I want to talk about also. Is that this quote from last week show with Nick. Mangold picked up little steam. I knew the exhequer occur in a lot of people around bar sore. Kind of Chirpin me and you know The fact that I ran a four four forty at jets fast asked in two thousand eight. Your story your words. My starting I mean is a true story. I I'm not saying you're lying. I think you'd only when that. Yeah I've been I mean there's never caught on tape. There are no like in that. You said your father was which WHO's with you. There's a guy a guy roomed with uh-huh Hofstra who actually comment on my instagram. So I remember that is real time ship. Yeah but There is another memory that I want to bring up on this podcast so I don't think it's necessarily as impressive as four. Forty which you know is speaks for itself. The numbers don't lie sneeze at nothing to sneeze at but I did play a little bit of flag football as as a mid twenty in New York City in one game in particular. Okay this was down by the East River. I have a photo of myself at the game. there's no actual film of this happening my wife if my wife actually did attend this game so I played fly football for one season. Actually I think kind of with a I had one other a friend played and we played with a group of strangers. Things Zok sports and so it was coed league but it was for the most all guys and you had to have. I think one year on the field at all times so as a social thing and you know you got to know the teammates but it was mainly me and one friend who just go and we love to play football so we played so this particular. Yeah played safety There was one quarterback for the team who had a somewhat of a slow release good core by strong arm all that stuff. Whatever for whatever reason was about to be Al Bundy Poku six touchdowns store whatever for whatever reason I could? I could read this guy like a book. Five interceptions you game. Five hundred thousand one game. I believe I had Three real won the Hail Mary than in the first half to have four and a half and I had five total for the game. The problem is the store. You don't have any proof and you don't even have any holidays of you ever doing. I mean who goes in like tapes. They're like a wreck football games. I mean I can. I can guys exactly Stephen J with what like phones are going to have like a kind of and this was The two thousand thirteen games since the day. You know the time all right well. There are multiple wall when they're way more witnesses for this one because it's a it's more recent either way more people feel nobody's necessarily paying attention to a guy running just forty or national product. Nobody's paying attention. Asian safeties too. I mean it was. We're talking about you know the Working Class New York City people in their twenties. I wasn't isn't the only Asian guy in the field all races. Like I said it was co ED so There was at least one female on the on the field at any given time but it was actually very good leaking all actually shot to all the women that played off for the season. No but I mean that. Take no question like they know what time it was. I I mean so us out there like Charles once after the the third one. I was just like this is ridiculous. This guy can't not to me leaders here for the game okay. So that's what it is. They it felt like he was going to be Al Bundy. Poke is touchdown type store. I feel like an part of me feels like that's not your only one. No that was that was like by foreign but I had they had maybe like two other picks the whole year. I didn't play a ton of safety. I played primarily linebacker But Yeah Yeah Okay what it is. I'm gonNA give you props. I mean I just haven't seen it so I just got to take your word for and since you've never lied to me I just I believe uh-huh believe it's all true what I don't like the you always keep telling I'm just telling stories. Is this a hard story to tell. Yeah I mean I'm not GonNa say that four four speed five picks game right. We used to town to saddest thing that yeah so. That's not me Tony. Glory days couple. Nice stories about your boy but this week we have a great great interview MM With David Andrews. Yeah who miss this season with the Patriots with some health problems but a very very good center has helped his his story about his health is crazy. Yeah played in three consecutive super bowls. Winning two of them really great stories Played against Aaron. Donald Tom Brady obviously under dentists. Karnak yet josh mcdaniels Daniels. Bill Belichick worked with Joe. Judge a lots of some really good stories there but I. This interview is brought to you by Roman. Most guys have tried different ways to last longer. Baseball doesn't always work. The folks at Roman an online men's health company changing the game with Roman swipes the secret to longer-lasting Sex Roman swipes are clinically proven to make last longer in bed. Their affective easy to use and fast-acting and do not require prescription Roman can ship swipes you in a discreet read. Unmarked package and each swipes. Pack is small to hide in your wallet for whenever you need it. 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David how're you doing today. I'm good how are y'all doing awesome doing awesome So obviously lots to talk about with you As far as your injury your health You know the state of the Patriots. That's a whole we'd like to start chronologically podcast. You grew up in Johns Creek Georgia Georgia bulldogs for life. You committed you committed on the spot to Georgia practically on the spot. I read what went into that process. Because you had other offers from other school say go dogs. I go down no dogs. Yeah you know I grew up. My grandfather was A big Georgia fan. went to Georgia and growing up in Georgia Georgia. That was really all I wanted to do. Yeah my parents My Mom Would Auburn and my dad's from Alabama So that was like a little bit of a thought but for me growing up in the state of Georgia and B's close my grandfather George all the way man and Kinda once. I started watching football the ball in the early two thousands coach Rick Really started the habits of success there with guys like David Greene. Dj Shock Great quarterback. They had the politics Benjamin Watson who I played with this year which was insane The A lot of guys Alex up to plan their that really kind of form that love Kalija for football So what was it like Just you know your dream school. And you're kind of holding out for that offer because you had offers from what was the duke and Michigan What was it kind of holding out for that school and them offering you was it like I imagine like a like a walk on getting like a scholarship? Like you were just waiting for that. That called you out. I was kind of under recruited yellow. I wasn't still not that big. It wasn't that big You know in some really model. Recruitment was about three days Rich Rodriguez was the coach of Michigan. And he actually sent me a Basboga message said hey we just check it in. We haven't heard from you sit down an offer and I haven't had it all for or anything Michigan and so I thought it was pay my high school coach. Got In contact with them. I think the secretary or whatever did not send a mountain And so that it was just sitting on the desk so they offer me on that we get in. I was going to do odd visit Coach cut dot cliff. Like I just couldn't go to Duke. It was not a great fit for me. You know like school wise. And like the highlight of that triple C.. Indoor Basketball ask stadiums. Yeah On so dukes flew to do that weekend and just did the visit just as I really like chocolate cutlip and felt like you know. He deserved that respect and then I got that offer While I landed in do on a Friday afternoon mid on spot there to Georgia so The Vanderbilt offer me on Saturday or Sunday. So within about three or four days ahead all my offers and a high school coach don't have any other teams contact me Caversham. Aca Wish with saying what would happen. L. Isn't GonNa go anywhere else but he had all these offers right I'm I'm surprised you said mom went to Auburn. Dad Went Alabama. My Dad went to Samper Elgar. But his whole family's like Alabama Vance Vance. So so you okay. I'm surprised that Alabama man in they don't want to keep the blood in the bloodline thick. Yeah Now I mean it was at the time I think they had Ryan Kelly Sure the cold right now. He's players. They had him come down from Ohio. It was like a five star recruit and then Auburn had a guy named Reece's mutes. It was from South Alabama so that was kind of like you know opening of interstate. Can't keep guys stay so that's Kinda how it went so that was fine with me now. I just want to go to Georgia. Nah Out some of the best years ever so Athens is will. You went to Athens this year. I was down there for Shall determine common was a cameraman there and we went with the bar so breakfast crew and I so I have been to Athens. I haven't been to Athens before so I've been to Lincoln Coney which isn't far from Athens Their office murder. He has his up. I I guess Lake House there and I can areas too. Yep Yep be eighty two in a so we. I remember being at the bar and seeing a bunch of people walking around. What either Hines Ward Jersey or policies and all these Georgia bulldogs jerseys? I'm dislike manilow. They got in college football down here and this is before I think a little bit This entire Georgia was kind of middle of the road. Whatever they were kind of fighting through and I remember at a bar and people didn't say hello? All they said was go ducks man. I was sitting around. I'll just like why doesn't nobody say fucking hello. This is supposed southern hospitality. I kept saying hello to everybody and everybody was go talks folks and so for like two days. I wouldn't say anything because I got so goddamn tired. and One lady who some sweet old lady came to me and she was like you don't know you're managing and I'm I'm just like no Ma'am I do but I don't fuck about the dogs like I just I just don't care and she was like well go dogs enough. What I'm over and I remember just walking on no but she athens Georgia? We went to the campus this year and for the world's biggest Elliott walls big tailgate. Stephen Shade is correct. And we on Jacksonville. Excuse me What was it because it was the Georgia Notre Dame Game Nassau Cafe Georgia Florida's the cocktail party? Bending right we. We were down in a fraternity row. I mean that campus. I've haven't seen so many eighteen years drunk in one place in my life. People will just walking around the the handles of vodka. I'm just like you gotta be twelve years old and a college is going up and down the street light. We'll just don't cross street with it and for for like two seconds. Turn into the the old man on the porch I'm like where's your ID. I'll just say where's your. Id How old are you 'cause. They're just kids. We walked into one fraternity house And there was is literally five girls. Young girls standing on a table standing on the table just dancing and part of me wanted to just grab him and be like taking everybody home getting van. It just seemed out of Control but that's the coaching Georgia's is about football as about Georgia sports and they go hard and Athens. Man I was I you know the town is just. It's unreal. The food having fun downtown is awesome. They will win a national championship because downtown Athens but Yeah it's Out Lou back there if I could one day really yeah so every every every football guy has a football the store was the wildest thing you did when George man the most fun thing I think we did looking back at dinner ball alcohol ardy anything like that so yeah we been we all wrote on scooters. That's how we got around okay. What most becomes Duda like? I'm a big thing so we always had our scooters so during training camp they're I'm doing The Russian for Sororities so one day we will stick out what they like their ornate. We'd figure out what it was. You know they we're going to be out there and we would literally run in practice no shower. Nothing is being flip-flop showers shoes. Hey everybody's on scooters if you didn't have a scooter through your hopping on the back. You didn't have helmets. You're wearing a football helmet. And we were right to sorority row. It was it got out of hand out so shut it down. Then they tried to work with us and we get escorted to do it but those first couple of years when we were doing that was so much fun you know. It's just one of those things all the team together. Gather during training camp to count the grind of it It was Kinda like the day you always look forward to is like when we're GONNA go and just lose our shit over on starting this on scooters and To three hundred pounds on scooters is a funny look too so that was awesome. It must be unbelievable easy to pick up girls when you don't say hello you just go dogs here on your wearing. Yeah Georgia a uniform. Yes there it is just say good night Leads still whatever you want to art. So leading up to the draft draft came out in two thousand fifteen Originally about your relationship with Dan Reeves who is a former falcons coach Kinda during the dirty bird days. Can you kind of go into that. Explain the how you guys came close. Yeah so Dan married my aunt He's from south Georgia. A bunch of my mom's family missile Georgia so he married my aunt When he was in a Denver and coming up with Elway all that my dad lookout there see a mouse so young matt even born so You know really wasn't a thing. And then it Kinda just worked out that I grew up in Atlanta and he was in Atlanta in a neo Formative years of my life early two thousands of my football like the superbowl when they went and played the Denver. My my parents didn't take me but they went down there six years old. I barely remember that game meal first couple years after I really started. But you've got got to grow up going to their training camp at Furman was guys like Keith. Brooking Michael Big Patrick Carney. Roddy wide algae chronicler rambler. Jessie tuggle. So many guys that You know Tom McClure was a senator. Who was Kinda underside guy from Lsu? I really looked up to because that's on wall. I played as a young kid. I got to run around and hang out with these guys. I can remember Mike Vick hanging out practice. Though it me in my buddies balls falls by Ongole just seeing how he was superintendents on the field and when he would come off the field you know. He's a super super nice genuine guys. Spend time talking with people and I think this kind of mentality you have to develop that I got to see early age from these guys in my uncle When you step on global village or someone a lot different than when you're off football field and you can be an asshole on the field but also you know all of that? You can be the most genuine nicest person to be around You know so that was really you know I mean I play in Little League and You know our seasons would be over November. We will get to go up there and watch practices at flowery branch you know. We were forty five minutes from flowery branch experiences growing up You know just things I can learn and look at mile but like I said you know maybe thinks he didn't tell me Football Wise Wasn't knowing how to pick up blitzes blitzes at eight years old but watch how carried himself. I presented himself. You'll his players presented themselves to me. I didn't know at that age. I get the chance chance plan the NFL. But I think those are lessons. I try to carry with me yells. Now that I'm in that position one thing I was wondering does appreciate it was especially mostly young guys will. Young kids ran locker room like so I was able. I will say when I was at the Pittsburgh steelers always appreciated the other guys bringing their kids in and because does what does it count and to your point when you're in a field. You are different purse but in the locker room and off the field. You can be this sweet hallmark Disney characters earthy just this big fluffy ball but with the kids do is they get to understand how men handle other men. You know the net doesn't necessarily happen and I remember when for instance. Oh you know Ryan Clark site. He grew up in the locker room. Now he's playing for Arizona State but he handle how to have you know engagement weatherman as far as like you know because when you knock them you you know how it is you either. The cussing at each other. You tell them a dirty joke or you're talking. About how your backers are you talking about life stories or you're talking about you know how you grew up to your favorite game. There's so many conversations going on and one of the luxuries I always appreciate. It was like I know I won't have to have that chance because my you know my child will be born in remarks and I'm Ali but I always thought it was cool for young kids to see how young Older men handled themselves. That you know you can have there's wild conversations but also called guy your brother and and say it's all cool to go have a beer or lunch or whatever you choose to do after after practice. So that's that's one of the luxuries. I wish more guys you know. Sometimes coaches don't allow a lot of kids in the locker room either so all depends on the type of culture. You come from Pittsburgh. I remember every Saturday meetings whole should I lock filling chucky cheese. You had kids running all over in the locker room. But I'm used to go round and hand like I did. I used to shit. I'll we'll have leftovers singles from the Strip club Thursday night Still still on my jeans. But I'll I'll have at least you know hundred bucks I'll go around and give kids five dollars ten dollars twenty dollars and thank you willy and just because I really after awhile you appreciate. You felt like that to you around the Gaza enough they kinda they kinda see you as family. You know they kind of look at you come over here you know. Get get my helmet. And then they'll slip. You'll five dollar bill you know. It's kind of like the beginning of the goodfellas fellows when he started parking when he start parking the cars you got all the money. So it's it's it's Indira Man but I wish more kids have that opportunity kind of be around men B men It was a good time. I agree I mean I remember. I didn't I didn't auto brother anything like that or a bunch of thousands You know so driller just me and then you remember their Ray Buchanan the lock the first time and I thought it was so cool next thing. I know. I'm getting taped up and thrown into an icebox are carrying their pads. All that stuff and you know you kind of learn that sense of like all right. Well well they're just trying to mess with me here on a number keep coming back. You cannot earn that respect. You know and I think that's a good lesson like you said for your if kids could just random kids works is one thing I always you know we have some guys like Matthew Slater. Even Tom's kids come in a brandon. Bolden they've got kids that are older and I think that's you know one of the coolest experiences of these kids. Five six seven years old run around the locker room you You don't realize you know as a kid how cool awesome that is but he you know take a step back at rh look at it like. Oh my gosh. Like what. Unreal experience that that was actually Stephen Channel. I don't know if he knows as the first time that I realized powder balls This is the first time out of their Baldwin balls loves. My Dad played into over the hill tournament. And so I I used to his little games. He played basketball so I used to go to his games. And he's like no move around but the first time I've seen dudes let's come out the shower later tower floor and powder their balls like some some guy sugar cookies and I didn't know that thing so I remember as a kid hindsight done well the wise it done because of moisture sweaty balls the the powder. Is it up Stephen Chair. I don't know if you knew but anyway my point is I remember being a kid walking out of my house and I left a trail of baby powder leaving out the door my mom. What the hell you doing baby powder? My boss doesn't they'll the guys are doing. And so what did you learn that from. Oh I went to the Locker Room with Daddy and my dad was just like just let it happen. May just being a man so you learn to store. The regular thing. Is that happening in football together pattering. They're nuts people powder both old dawn is you. Don't powder your boss to that sort of desk all day. That's still gets at all eric pounding. You're Boltzmann I I guess so. Just what keeps them. Dryer Dryer keeps you so you don't have that funk you've been sitting on a ham sandwich for far too visual explanation all right fair enough Going from your balls simone like ham sandwiches to to Real Ham Sandwich Guy Real Ham and Egger David Andrews you worked out for the Patriots and Bill Belichick before the twenty fifteen draft and from what I gather he told told you were not gonNA draft you. Would if you're around after the draft that we might sign you is that true and then how does that change your draft experience So I didn't will you might have. I don't know if they did. These visits before the I did. Yes auden do any of that so i. Didn't you add buddies guys that were coming out with me that were going to the polls broncos or wherever in the taking these bids did visit kind of like official business colleges. I guess or whatnot and I wasn't doing any of that so I'm just sitting here working out and I made it calls me is like Hey BILL IS GONNA come to Athens to work you out. Can you be there. I was like yeah you know. Let me know I'm like freaking out. Because guys like were wearing suits to these visits and all like call anywhere suit he was like no. He's like I promise. Whatever you wear you're going to be transparent and he was in jeans? I don't even know it was tennis shoes tied in a cutoff yell cookie thing. It was Hopkins Lacrosse Odi. Yeah but we sat there and watched bill And I just never seen especially head coach so in depth on the the film. You'll asking me questions like you know. I thought I did some pretty good. We'll do you think he could've done this. Better Catholic Wa. I mean I don't know maybe that's just what we were told holded. And so that was kind of first glimpse of like how he sees things what he visualizes it and then we went outside and worked out new and after after he's like look this year before they drafted Brian Store out of Florida state. The third round may just won the super bowl against Seattle. Fourteen on shows like appeal. They don't need a center. They've got this kid you know and I thought he was good player. I knew who was Kinda Competition is around leading. Soften it run the of Remington award the before college ause like you know this guy like they've got a center there good and he was like. Yep We're not drafting one but if you're around we'd like to have you on a scholar art will appreciate the honesty. I think that saw him He has a man in the business. You can appreciate just people be honest with you. That was one thing I didn't want like an agent coming in and telling me I'm going to get drafted in third around that he could get drafted because that just to me is not true that only so you can control that so I was working out with Shack Mason. At the time is my right guard right now and I was teaching him how to try to snapper for football because they were you know the pundits who are now saying he's too small to play guard. He needs to play center. The all the stuff. So we're I'm I'm trying to teach him that we're working out. Kinda development of friendship draft day comes redraft. trae Jackson A guard out of floor state third round on and then I think we draft shack in the fourth round friends and I'm like screw it like Yup. They draft a Shack Place Guard center. They draft another guard. They're not gonNA take me. Even in the draft or actor was so draft day goes just kind of sitting there toward like the fist. Six round. Start getting a couple of phone calls from some I think cowboys. And then he kinda draft ends. No one calls you And then my agent calls me. He's like Bill Belichick spouts. Call you pick up. Some answer is kind of like you know going to give you a Fifty thousand luxury free to come out here Oscar. God I don't know let me figure out what's going on Part of me wanted to stay in Atlanta I thought that would have been cool to play A McConnell really loyal so like play Georgia play for Atlanta. That would have been pretty cool to me. Mom Coach there just for some some reason the stall job at sounded pretty cool And they offered me some money in the Patriots came back from even more even more even more. Finally after the third time in my agent call was. You're going to New England Lennon. He made a decision fully. Yeah you can't pass this up All right let's do it like you know I go up there and he cut hope they learn something from the coach. Belichick Tom that comply on another team or or maybe just you know if I'm selling insurance. Tamar you know can do that so I did that. when up there I can remember day not. I didn't take a single our APP Didn't touch the field like shit like I'm getting cuts marlier. Did you whole sign bonus the bind engagement rams like I don't no money Don't even have a college degree so I was like Damn Training Camp Cons and things just Kinda you know unfortunately in our businesses businesses injuries We had a lot of older guys on the offense align that year. That were really just banged up Unfortunately Brian Store had gone down As kind of like pagers shitting. They're about to start three rookies inside twin me Shack Mason and Trey Jackson so as low chaotic attic in the I.. R. Ended up starting starting against the Pittsburgh steelers in week one and then ended up getting bitched week ten on Monday night. The ball against the buffalo bills which was sucked An ecologist played in and out sparingly the rest of that year Aw came into loss at AFC championship and it was kind of like a sigh of relief. I will season over. I was just like thank God. It's over like house. I was so drained. Had No idea what the next three years until. I'm surprised because this the backtrack a little bit it Bill Bell Jet Right Right calls me once and calls me twice and then calls me a third time and my answer is well. I don't know chances I don't WanNa play football right. The coaches are saying. Because it's not like you have and I'm not trying to throw shots here but it's not like you. Have you know the worst quarterback waiting for your new linguine. You actually have the best so hesitation I think it just I guess it explains Loyalty To Georgia and you know the Falcons I mean you still being Falcon. Mm you're still young pup Kicking S I guess when I'm also trying to say is. was there any hesitation on landon landing in New England not meeting expectations on planning so. I think it was yell. I just didn't know what to expect expects Elliot what what was doing on like I never been this far north Yell is kind of you know our. I grew up in our from Athens in Georgia in this kind of just like you're gone and I just didn't know what to expect. I didn't know it would be too much You know we were good at Georgia But that wasn't the pressure that there was it was fun. We just went had fun and we won ten games. It was a good season you know and I just I just didn't know what to expect or what I wanted or anything and I want to see. What else is out the thing I was a little hesitant to the fact they drafted a center You just got to the point where I finally just end. I think the thing about being undrafted is he's GonNa Matter Fifteen minutes on the phone. It's just like you're on the phone with one coach. You see another buffalo number call new Kansas City number. Call on you. It's just it just trying to see what's going on and I had offers from Dallas Atlanta Baltimore and maybe Kansas City and so just trying trying to figure out what was going on and I didn't WanNa just jump at something right away I think in the back of my mind. It meant a lot that he was this point he was honest he was the only coach to ever. Really contact me. you know. I think that was one thing that just thought. And then also think I talked ought to Awful and he was just like look. You're going to get a shot. They're more than anything else. There's there's one coast that doesn't matter you know if you're undrafted if you're a first round draft big big. You're going to play if you've done enough as he got that point just kind of like an after my agent which is like. There's no read while I'm not gonNA go. Are there and thank God I did. When was when was your Oh shit moment so for mine? I landed in Pittsburgh In Pittsburgh it picked up at the airport and pick you up on a yellow school bus and you get on us and it driving to facility right away you get off the bus and and you walk into the Locker Room. And I'm walking into this room full of you know everybody's turn around so to speak. You know you get to meet the coaches whatever. While at the time I had met. They'll cower yet So we go back check into dorm comeback now the whole teams here. And I'm seeing hines ward. I'm seeing Casey Hampton Hampton. I'm seeing Ben. Rothlisberger Mile Shit. Moment was when we had the official team. Meanwhile we all kind of came together. Bill Power Walk Mineral and no bullshit I should should you not. It seemed like there was a gold or around Umbro they it was it was nuts and I remember just locking up like Oh shit bill because I only had talked to him on the phone never seen never knew what he looked like and he walked. This is when Pittsburgh had just won the super bonus live in Detroit seahawks and he walked in a room in maneuver. We walk into the room. Rookies one side. The places. Everybody's trying to catch up with each other because it's the off season and coming back from an office offseason. Excuse me and now. Now cower walks in a room in the place goes dead quiet like you can hear a fucking mouse fart and his gold or and I'm standing there like this. You know just like I'm like Holy Shit Bill car. He kinda scans the room and he goes men. We got a target on back as we should be. Just would Pittsburgh St Louis C. on the field and walk right out and I remember saying to myself Iraqis died now. What the fuck everything else? I'm an NFL like that was my that was my nfl NFL moment. Did you have a moment like that. I think for me. I was the first time I saw you know I mean it was just because we came in very similar type things that we came in that night. Next day we had physicals all of this stuff And then you know we we do so. They're not doing like phase one phase two stuff so you kind of been analogy really. Just what the linemen and I remember first time stepping on the practice for like ot a practice and like see him run out on the field. I was like in the year. We're sitting there taking snaps. fumbled the snap. And you gotta run a lap. And I'm sitting there run with him and I'm just like Damn I just made this guy run a lab and you may time room. Yeah he had run with me. Awhile fumbled a snap and it was just Kinda like at that point like one. I the details matter here like everything's important to there's no sacred people. y'All I should've been the one running Tom. That's obviously my fault. What did Tom City Natwar ran? I tried to keep up with them and Insee award and then you know obviously a lot times after after you know. It's kind of one of those things. Just the first thing he said to me he knew my name. And that was the biggest thing in the world. I think that's so important. I wish I was better at that. no-one on rookies New Guys in the building's name but you got out is sometimes on practice squad guys two three weeks guy come in off the street for a couple days as a noser and I think that's just a really good trade of this that he asked but him just saying my name meant The fact that he knew me you know and I just wasn't a dumb rookie gave yelled met a lot. That is pretty cool. Actually heard a nick mangold who we just had on our last episode So that Eric Mangini I bleed elitism principal would often quiz him on guys names and like where they went to school. Is that something that he does with with bill. Belcher does with against so my first first few years They're not as wouldn't wear jerseys. So like the offense or wear grey shirts Wear blue shirts. So your force when you're communicating. You can't be like a you know gone out of Mike Lice Forty two. You gotta say that Might Dante hightower or you know you gotta use people's names instead of just you know screaming. Hey Forty two or eight thirty run over here. Whatever and that's been a change for some rules of the NFL but you'll it's big you? Everyone in our buildings name he'll know things about players Patriot's history past present not only better know things about Mike. Rebel your new things about tile what he did and he's not necessarily GonNa ask me stuff about those guys more last me stuff more about the linemen and stuff but yell it's important. We do things in training camp competitions on who knows their teammates and stuff like that. So I think that's still the all big thing the team building in Yup part of being a great team. I gotta ask. I think everybody's curious about this manure obviously a key piece to the New England patriots and their current. You know The football team in their you know their juggernaut someone say dynasty which may or may not have. Just come to an end but either way your key piece to that you're out you're out this year but A lot of people wanNA know like what is bill belichick like behind closed doors because there are rumors that he's like a super funny guy and like open You know really personable all but you know to the media and these press conferences you know. He's pretty tight lipped unless you ask him a very direct question about football in which I have heard he will talk to you for like thirty minutes about it. So David it has S. guy who plays under him and obviously talked very frequently. What is he like on a day to day basis Kinda like my first year in the league huge safe stuff in this team meeting? It's it's funny really kind of laughed like a lot of some guys are funny and try to be funny. And it's such a dry since a few more innocent enough series team meetings You know I think his stuff is just funny that he says you know you think about when he said he's not a AW chick from my cousin vinny all right Marisa Tomei. That's witty like He also he says things like that all the time that you just if you're not really paying attention or you just like scared of him for whatever reason that you just don't catch onto hip up some that like you being a captain the incumbent him in some Closer tighter not open things is you just find out he's spawning. I can remember He was at Georgia. Doing Pro Day And we'd just build this new ungodly door facility solidity The he's talking about it. He's just like you guys. Don't even have roads down here but you've got a new door silicon Absence State Georgia. But of course we're going to have a football facility. And now he's a funny guy he's just he's so knowledgeable knowledgeable to like you said about you ask about football you on things. It's just goes on and on and by the end of the year like sauce because of what he said knows. You better know no. You're history in our building you'd better know indeed is data now. What happened on D Day? When is on you know? What's the difference between cleaned veterans? Memorial Day you know things like that all these different types of history of events you know he's going to ask you about as east against what that's important because they call the Patriots you know this is not just numb being you know what I mean people. Can I love that. You said that but I think that's amazing because a ballot check as you call the fucking patriots. You Better Know American history for Christ Sakes and New England kind of but I mean they think like Bruce Arians and Jason later quizzing people about who the best pirates were better. No blackbeard is shit so that year two thousand sixteen a great year for you. You know you won the job as the starting center. That was the year Super Bowl. Fifty one against your for Atlanta Falcons grown up your your fan of the Falcons You guys are down twenty. Three Dont`a hightower enormous sack fumble on Matt Ryan what what has come back to win in overtime. What really changed when you guys were down? Twenty eight to three did anything like what was your mindset the huddle you know so I think one thing to have learned. Bill says a lot of stuff especially as a younger guy elite. You're Kinda like all right. Whatever you know like I think you have all the answers and he would talk about the Super Bowl and You know house was to separate hats you know the NFL to half time so short but it's Super Bowl you've gotta lot more TV. timeouts halftime Super Law is completely separate. Ebbert Games in the sense of momentum. There's not as much momentum that you can control as a regular football game and he said that for the Game House. It's just a football game. There's not two different games and I think that was Kinda the tale of two halves. Those two different games We really struggled. What am I out? We turn the ball over. Didn't do anything right. Offensively hurt ourselves and then we were. Let's go out. Let's have a fresh start in the second half we. We had a lot of time of possession or something this time of possession. We just didn't do anything with it. They had a lot of big plays scored a lot. Once you pick six and we had had a fumble in the red zone big place win. It was one of those things in the second half. We started chipping away just Chippewa wit Chippewa Triple A.. no-one no-one can't scored twenty five points in one. Play this score. Seven four seven four eight Suez Sin Goes I. I think the moment where I was like. Damn by losses game. Julio Jones May that catch on red Right in front of our bench and I just like eating. Didn't catch it no way and you're sitting there knowing audit trying to tell yourself eating thing and then luckily I think we had the holding. Penalties Connacht Connacht Billable Ranger thinker. I might have been the strip sack I don't know what really transpired after that it's kind of a blur but really knows just I. I think that just showed Team we were that year. Just do their job Very talented new talented. We just had to go through it. you know we were in great shape I think that was you know. Some that offensively had a great pass rush that year but we were able to Kinda wear down you know with our time of possession. I think we ran a ninety nine hundred someplace so Just kind of wearing down. Some bill does and our teams just big on conditioning run hills around. So it's just kind of that was kind of will be relied on and we kind of went from there. So you played in three total super bowls three two and one two times or bowl champion. A very famous story with the Super Bowl is the forty niners against I believe the Bengals When Joe Montana leads them down touchdown the slants Jerry? Rice to win the game They have to kind of go Whatever it was eighty yards to go win the game and the score and to get everyone? Calm down in the in the Huddle Joe. Montana who Tom Brady has often been compared to he tells the guys who are very nervous on this last minute drive like hey look at look at the crowd right there. There's John Candy. Can you believe that John. Candy's watching US play football. Something along those lines. Is there anything that Tom has said. In the huddle to just kind of calm the the group down or just kind of refocus them and get them off Get them thinking there's less pressure on. No I mean you know I really think At that point in the game wasn't a two minute drive you do. It was overdraw overtime. We were able to just we just had. They're playing we. We had a lot of success So I think it was a little bit different You know but I think leadership that whole time Joe. Snow look fine. Everything's fine yell no panic. That was the biggest thing we had a young offense align. Our two tackles veteran players. But knows me Eh Joe. Tony was left guard. He was already on Shack Mason. He'll need him both coming off kind of rotational in our first year. That was our first real year. Starting writing on was our second year. So you know. I think it was just a sense of calm and we had nothing to lose I. We've come this far. Like got nothing to lose now rather than if we were kind of on the other side of that fence and we had been up twenty three. Then you can kinda say Oh shit scared. Ted's off a little bit. This start this questions for you I know one of the things that helped me grow up specially as a ballplayer Was the ability to honest and so I remember one time I was joking around in locker. Room Alexander goes my left guard. Jeff Hardens was the center Kendall Simmons Right Guard Morville Smith was at left tackle and I can remember talking this kind of having around about time about Shit Shit. I probably did the night before. Whatever in I remember Saying something allergenic along the lines like I can I can do my job and all this other other stuff and he'll j you can. Do Your job became Dr Else's job and I was like well. That's not my job. He says that's where you're wrong heels. What happens of cynwyd goes out? Who who would rather trust the guy who's played eight games on a guy fresh off the bench and he's like you always have you read it? You GotTa know multiple positions in. You have to be prepared in once. Once you know the guys next to your job and make sure jobbies in so kind of that knowledge. He kept beating me upside the head with helped me grow fast. Especially when you're starting because now you have your. Your turnover isn't about we after week. Your turnover is about getting better week after week. You know what I'm saying is it's no longer like I did bad this game but next week I'M GONNA go. No you have to learn. Learn from your mistakes and part of me from your mistakes is understanding the why would you look so. We had nicknamed Little Nick Mangled on he talked about one of the lessons. He learned early in Ohio. State was his office alarm Coach told him and talk him the wine every play and every scheme so it helped him kind of have a broad sense of what was going on you plan in his check system playing with Tom. What was the moment you know what I'm I'm I'm learning maturing? And what was the lesson that taught you that. I think it's early on I came in Rheinland Bell Late here for a while. He was another undrafted guy. Practice fraud got really just reminded Neil ended up making a career for himself in this league And I remember coming in one day and I was getting in pretty early six six thirty in the morning and you know it was semi down. He looked like he was injured at the time he was like look. It's on you. I tell everyone else what they acted. In Fair. No you need to know all the blitz. They run yelled the percentage of what type of blitz they like to run out of a split sub personnel group based pressures on all this stuff and I thought it was being an asshole. You know we've watched film. He want me to lead the film room. You know as a rookie and asked me these ball busting questions and manage international. Like I don't know I'm just trying I figure this thing out and I think that was one lesson that I learned is that you know if you're gonNA play center and then if you're gonNA earn the respect respect the guys in that room know what to do and show the effort that you're trying to learn and I think that was a big thing. Because they had a lot of veterans centers. Play there for a long time. They had like I said Brian Start the year before but they also had Dan Connolly. Continue Guy and Ryan Wendell playing guard next next to them who is eight years God. So you had these veterans rounded him but when I was in there and I think that was a good lesson for me was good for me and I think also you know like you said. It's not necessarily like everyone's going to get beat Nestle. You'RE GONNA get a pressure that you didn't know is coming. That's fine that happens. Don't be you can't be yourself off club. Don't let that treasure beach you again. Don't let that don't let that you know the running the three upper middle blitz. Don't don't screw that up again. If they're running crosstalk. Don't screw that up again. I think that was something that I learned out say. I learned a lot more through my second year. I would said my first year was such a whirlwind oral when Like I said was starting then I got benched and then I'm like in this downward spiral for a little bit cod did myself out of that hole and Dan L. is really my second year like you said it's what makes NFL teams. That are the ones that get better each week. I think that's what you see in the playoffs. You know you look at the titans. They're getting better each week. They're doing things better each week. Kansas City the concept. Now they're just getting better and better each week and I think that's that's that's how you really progressing are successful in this league so The year after you guys win the Super Bowl against Atlanta you backed the Super Bowl and and Lose to the Philadelphia Eagles. What is it like getting that far because like you said in your rookie season? You're almost relieved to have the season over but you know That that Super Bowl game at the last game no matter what so you and the eagles season ending at the same time. What is it like pouring all those months of work in to the season and then having eating it not end obviously so close to winning it but you fall just short? I think they're still a little bit of the same thing. There's a little bit of that that like man like is just like it's just overwhelming that it's over for some reason I don't know how to explain it. Looks like it's just crazy and Dan such disappointment. And but it's just weird because you know after you lose a game in the regular season either. Your season's over to just go home. Ah You got family and friends at your house and you can either be pissed off and go upstairs bedroom yelp but then you have these huge parties after the weirdest thing so where does that one Atlanta was like all right. Yeah let's Party and then you will you lose actor and Minnesota sweetest only more. Be here the next thing. I know I'm having my life but you know it's a soft and I think this I think I hated losing four three months slater realizing like just so much on your plate so just wound up. He took me take me long or longer. Be Resi jere that that year just finally may wander that often. Yeah like you don't you don't realize that time you see them raiding the getting their reigns and he just like thankful and I just watered that opportunity at least squad that as a team and it sucks because unfortunately in the league he gets just each team's different you know and now you know you're going to lose guys you know there's guys wanted to free agency and so that team will never get that chance of You onset is Kinda sucks each at you for a while. Yeah the following year. You know you guys go on to win the Super Bowl Again against the Los Angeles Rams now as an interior linemen that means for that year. especially you're facing Aaron Donald and endemic ensue. What are those two guys present to you as challenges at how did you guys deal with them beast? I mean that you're Donald. Donald had these odd todd game right now but what he did you know two years ago with You know in the sues obviously Sui always why the strongest day is powerful people. I've ever played against a smart. He knows he knows he knows is operatives very well like he knows he can read when gorge grabs He also has you senator. You're trying to get back on. It makes your job a lot harder. So he's he's very opportunity. Stick Blair. He's very old wise so he knows these things in the air dogs. Just a freak. I mean n you try to do things you try to slide protection into them. On that year they ran a lot of five-man pressures they played like an under front In this way phillips game so really five linemen and block five guys on every plane especially in our offense last year where we run a Lotta to tides your bigger personnel groups. It allowed them to play like that Well you know so. It was tough. I thought our guards between Shack Joe played their asses off on We weren't gonNA try to do a lot of play actions where Joe Tony was going to be one on one with them and in the last drive thing yet rear four one on ones that he won on who was going to ground. Yeah exactly one of the big one was brought. The I play. The drive was a little play action. Pass across like fifteen twenty are and doing whatever I could to try to give back over there but we were trying China. I think you'd be a modest I don't mean to cut you off. I was at that Super Bowl. I was there. Because that's bill will a beloved L. President Porno fishtail down to the fucking built And I think you you I. Maybe it's just the Patriot. You guys kicked ass Asa Front 'CAUSE I have my wife next to me and I said to myself I was like man. 'cause I was like you. I was expecting down and put on a show a little bit and I watched Trent Brown move Sou- like a shopping cart. I watched you guys really get after it and what I took most From It as a office line one thing you guys do extremely well is look out for each other and on five especially the five on five is pretty much like I man. I as a as a center is different. 'cause you're looking left to right you're you're kind of playing bumpers for your darts but as a guard especially when you got humming three technique like Aaron Donald Barron down in your head. It's extremely intimidate At one thing you guys did and I think you did really well this game you stating in your gap and lot of times Centers Lube Gap Integrity Right. So if you're playing over closer to the left Gar well that right guard his inside it gets a little bit bigger bigger. You know what I mean and I thought you did a great job of really playing bumpers for both of those guards but to tuning I washed them. He battled man. I mean he really stood up in a big way that game. He didn't get enough credit. I thought turn Brown didn't get enough credit. I thought I thought as alarming. You guys really knuckled the fuck up and against that a friend who you know going into that game. 'cause you know media row and all that stuff I was I was around. Everybody's like well. You know this bad ass D.. Line kinda games and the stunts is inherent. Donald's you'll be able to move all over the place it didn't matter you guys actually knuckled the fuck up in what I was most impressed about it. You guys didn't wait for you. Guys Doing Attack Jack the whole time and it was pretty stagnant stagnant in the first half but you could tell coming out of the second. Have you guys got them right where you needed. It will just keep pounding rock keeping the momentum on your side and I thought you guys did a Helluva job. I'm neutralizing down the to the point. Where my wife was like After halftime who's that guy you you were talking about. I was like well. That's called ask the Moore's working in front anytime you know here. Ninety nine gold emmys the boys our furniture work and so I think you'd being modest. Did you guys played your ass off. I'm not even a patriots interest free. I actually hate your mother fuckers But I I gotta give you guys credit. You guys had a hell of a super bowl and well deserved and I thought the game was one because of you guys up front appreciate it. I mean I think it was just one of those things. I thought you made a great unit that year you've been on you've been on offense aligns where you've got that. SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DIFFERENT FOR GUYS clicks together for some reason. We just did we just. We had a great unit we all bought in to this awhile. Struggle last year obviously L. Lebanon five and had a couple of games or we just looked like dog shit. But you know we rallied in and I think it was one of those things that we were saying earlier. We just got better and better each league. You know we play play the steelers on late in the year last year we had like Holding penalties would just kill me personally as lively guilty. That's all feeling ill you know. Oh that we learned from we kept moving forward and kept moving forward Young just kept putting one foot in front of the other guy. Just kind of rallied up and Kinda Dunkin. It was a good group. It was a great group. We had a great game plan. Just geysers went out there in fall so I went to scouting school and in after in after work activity where it was. You know ten twenty hours a week just like watching gain table learning about the positions in one of the positions that I was breaking down was Offense Atlanta the journal one of the players that I was assigned was actually Joe Tuni so watch five games on him that year and the final one with the Super Bowl watching every snap both angles meal twenty two you and that game was so impressive just because yet You know to David's point. He's ice owed on the best player in football and their two. The biggest plays on the final drive. Where one of the outnumber Gronk and the other one's deep bodyguard? He's one on one with the best player in football. Who is that was his best year? uh-huh so yeah just watching that game and you know the beauty of that is only we know that right now. That's never talked about. ESPN that you'll never ever hear about it. That kid you said it's a game point. I mean that's as often guard and David could tell tell you you know when you guys alone right like you just like times especially in slide protect you like man you know if we're sliding my side on my left tap was okay. You know I mean and then when it's going away from you you and your tacky like mayor you look at your right tackle especially from at the guard position like I mean you right now. The boys the boys gotta go handle other sides so you kind of have you have those moments where that learn even though. It's five to cohesive dues playing together there's Times whereas division you've got to shut the fuck up and and I thought you guys as you WanNa want battles you guys fucking battling down. It was It was just a special group out of just an honor to be a part of it. So you in that game also had a fumble recovery as a guy who did not play football growing up. I do love to hear these stories about what goes along. The bottom of the piles Willie's told me some pretty gruesome stories about ball twisting spitting punching eye poking. I don't see how this stuff is happening. When we have the camera technology in the SPIDERCAM? All that stuff that we stick I can that we have today. So what is going on the bottom of the pile during the super bowl at that point. I don't even remember so it's things that if there's a clear recovery they're going to call it and the teams get the ball does when you get these. Thank you three or four guys and you know I think you just rely on. I remember doing fumble originals. In their certain way to do it. And that's that's the biggest thing I just tried to get my side getting curled up in there the biggest thing that one. I don't remember anything specific about it. There wasn't any spinner Edna Ball grabber You know there was a lot of law and my arms to get it out Because I don't know if they market called down or whatnot but I'm usually I'm trying to get in and out of that thing. There's a habit must go get out of there and you know we try not to give them a chance to to get the ball yoga whatever way they can't so With those kind of hold onto that ball. PD What's what's the dirtiest thing you've ever done in a in a scrum Ho man. You're undrafted guy you know. I think it's fair for me to say you got all it the draft you. You've done some things about well. I'm GonNa tell you what I've done. I've I've flicked some nuts like a flick flick. Yeah because people you first of all the REF is running into the pop so if you make a quick movement his is going right to you. So there's Times where I've Kinda like flat. Somebody's not as hard as I. Can you hear somebody nobody can. I've definitely done that. Yeah I've never I've never just down upon that the biggest thing you learn as you know front out to do anything. That's I'm GonNa get you thrown out earth team Oh you're so good so good after that right But I've definitely got with all hand just on someone's thank you get them off. I hate being like you're down there in just getting late on. There's not the worst. Get somebody off you. You're someone hockey a little bit. You gotta police yourself out there so you know someone who does some. Don't think right you gotta police yourself a little bit so it is always the roller never catch. The first guy is always the second guy to catch was usually me. Will they I forget the name of the Clemson linebacker. I think was drafted like the seventh round a couple years ago but he would say that he check the oil a lot in terms of just like putting fingers up guys common practice still in today's game. I don't know nobody's ever checked. Mola now yeah all right. I'm glad to hear that. 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I don't WanNa say make chicken salad chicken ship. But he's been in like you know definitely get guys to over perform at their position. What's the difference that he brings versus? You know any other. Oh line coach. You've had throughout your credit level. I think one thing. That scar does really well is his attention to details overall. Do everything matters. I think communications skills. The message is clear size. There's no kind of You guys figure it out or if you have a question and he's going to come up with an answer and it's not GonNa be an educated answer and I think something that is really evident. He believes in his techniques. He knows and understands that. There's other guys have picnics. There's players that have techniques that they swear on believe that works but that's just what he believes and so it's one of those things see. Fiction has nike. Believe and I think you believe in the trails we do. You don't do a lot of things. Fancy into the same drills over over and in terms of repetition you believe in it I think one thing he feel like stars and Fox hole with saw someone's attack acne Him Too then. It's not you know it's not y'all need to do better ellis PD to do better. You know he's the I want to take responsibility. Plagued inch tax cheats on. I think it's just something about how he carries himself. He's a hard coast lay for his old old-school custody while all up and down the field but we walk all field as common as a wide thing. All right at home. Is there a foreign board. No we don't do that okay. Fine Board We don't do rookie dinners really. We know what we do is when you sign a new contract we take acheological is it given isn't given you haven't take off. Alana signed an extension after two thousand sixteen took him out. Jack Mason signed his extension. took us out Marcus. Cannon signer extensions Sal. My rookie year may solar took us out the whole bank boss. You know we went to a casino with May At some point dinner the whole thing so That's kind of how it's done since I've been there. Cows passed down We did make assail with first round draft. Pick so we made him get the bus for the super bowls that was kind of what made him do or the Super Bowl ring ceremony so that was kind of his thing we made him do. But we don't have a lot of first rounders and things like that so a lot of labor outfits. It's on drafted guy. So money pocket baby so a hot name around the coaching ranks this off season. Impasse off. Season is Josh mcdaniels. Who you play under? You actually didn't get his shot so far that we've seen you know this offseason. But what we had Brandon Marshal on recently spoke who said at the time when Joshua's coach hated them but now they actually have a very good relationship and they talk a few times a year and he thinks thinks he will be a very good head. Coach gets his opportunity again. What would be your advice to potential future? GM's or anyone. That's going to give Josh Josh. Shot moving forward. How do you think you would do as head coach now? I mean I think draws a great coach I think offensively thinks he comes up with Tom `specially this year when I stepped back a little bit. Kinda ask more questions a little bit of light things more in the past game like you know you. Don't look at it as much where the construction how that sometimes whereas like you come in on a Wednesday Scott like four new place adjustments. You're just trying to jam all that stuff stop. Then you'll understand you understand the concept so why you do things but was able to step a step back and kind of pick his brand a little bit of times this year And it's amazing. What he sees how he sees things like thinks of the offense of games That he comes up with Gone I think great coach. He's really good at communicating. Expectations are out. Things are supposed to done off and I think our organizations how practices things like that make go. Look at that and think Josh's district break coach Ellen whoever these are you know he's trying to fill the best face Shinsei. It's I think echoes so much that goes in and I think you gotta surround yourself with great staff. I think Josh updates note odd people. Yeah one of their name especially hot around the New York area I imagine you spent a little bit less time with him but you know what you've you being on extra extra points and field goals. I imagine at least got to know. Joe Judge a little bit. So what can you tell giants fans with what they have to look forward to with coach. Joe Judge off. Aw You guys watches press conference at all identity as I read. I read about animated how he went to the incorrect Penn station And then that kind of Who were to Metlife Pos there on time? I think it's one of those things that some may look at it think it's cheesy easy like you know. Joe I know Joe and I think that was one of those different things have things he really does believe. It is com. Joe's role was kind of funny because obviously the special teams and issues coaching receiver. So we were around a little bit more but then as a rookie. He's really really ball. The guys You have all these meetings. You gotta get into spring training as Joe Judge. They're allowed so as a rookie. Oh you form this relationship with them. You know every day in the spring multiple times during training camp. And he's kind of guy like you mess up he's GonNa talk to you I you know Yellow and I think that he's one of the Jewish the. US people are at very genuine. And I think that press conference. I looked outright automated. Fire meet up but I am kind of cheesy. That sense of football all uniting genuine. I think he's GonNa give. It is all things he increased the fundamentals toughness attention to details L. stuff. You really believe. interesting I think One other guy I think that The rest of the football all watching world doesn't have any insight into but would love the inside of someone who plays in the Patriots Organization is Ernie Adams. What exactly does Ernie Adams Adams do? I know that he's I think it's something like head of special projects. So what is that so I think if there's any role you ever you WanNa know if Ernie doesn't know it he's going to look it up for you know it I remember her giving played This year but he's pulling lets us from like when this Guy Coach twenty years ago it might have been like a g a under the Sky Appalachian state like bliss. They ran you know and so does he does a lot of stuff that you know as a coach. You don't really have time to Elba he is. He's always around is always open for you. So it cycle pedia This kind of like I getting building Macaire learning all these people and I think that. Do Your job thing. A mild new moon is this guy as a rookie trying to learn. I'll obviously actually interested in the series because team. Who is this guy like? Brown ability doesn't really say anything They'll put like you got a question about anything Kill a wealth of knowledge kind of sits there practice. Looks on from a different wrangle He said things to me about snapping at times like a fumble snap and why he thinks fumbled snap and thrived. Have you watched so much seat so much. So smart. Last me You have anymore. I've electrodes check in on his health so in August awesome so in August nineteen. You were diagnosed with pulmonary embolism. I think I'm saying that right and then place on a few days later. So can you just walk. Walk us through kind of how that all happened and then you know how are you doing right now. Yeah they we reported I started coughing. Up Blood Aw I noticed my wife had gotten ahead for the summer I started feel pretty bad. just tired the Arctic Yeah Paul from a lot I thought maybe it was just Cole past me now. Called the law not knew something wasn't right so I'm sitting there. I'm away syllabi like I got to tell the doctors and Managua tell doctors ill So I ended up telling them I have Sickness Kinda get treated did sit out for a couple of days. I start running. Start practice like busy attorney camp. I practice all summer feeling awful. All I'm just one of those like just stop so I just kept solution Want to be out there with the guys you know never was taught out their job taken and especially you know it wasn't like I obviously had a physical address time like I. I thought I was acidic. I thought I was out of shape and like I said you know he kind of training camp out as to. We're not doing today's go practice with another other seeds so it's like three days it don't play in the game. You get like two days all face will ron bookish. Before the game of traveling data the next day and another day all start again through four heart trained myself and that starts talk for the third season game. I think he played like I played. I got home plate full game not right and I went went into the same facility next to send me to a specialist and I was diagnosed with a blood clots longs at first. It was tab little. They didn't usually get after surgery or trauma off then they were talking about cancer. Cancer patients. It's kind of like a whirlwind. Two three or four days in hospital get tested all the stops and then off kind of figured out why they found out they Aw bigger people. I guess I'd have some circulation from this up They went from a leg. I logged since Aw Basin stop but on blood thinners and that's really count and play Not necessarily ship. You're on the medicine traffic. The all you hit the head August suggestions on my take lead Al Fadl so has one of the state. You're Kinda done which is down by important because you get out of hospital still awful and then start uh after a monster. Study bill better acid. They're looking. I know you've been injured. Willie that you're not having a rehab every new. It's not like I gotTA ACL. Enter today to try this out. Really lifted saw bodies audience up. And you're sitting there looking at stuff off. Better look healthy physically looking for all with a pass or praise Australia deposit never bender foreign That's been authorized for. I wanted to gain every year so that was different but it was building nothing out of able to do things part of a training here often. That's all good issue Bendigo. You wish you very speedy recovery and hopefully a great off season As far as conditioning all that stuff One thing I do want to ask though We touched sean up briefly before we started taping. Is that you know Tom Brady is a free agent. We don't know what's going to happen there so we don't need to really speculate but If you have played your last game with him as your quarterback what will go down. Maybe your favorite memory with him or good story that you guys had. Oh Man So he he's never like you know different lifestyle forty years old. It doesn't mean strawberries. Yeah Yeah So. He's planning this dinner. I think it might have before the two thousand eighteen received plan this dinner at pats. It's kind of a last minute. Thanks for the Training Cam. He's blesses not David or Are bringing the wives or not. He's like you guys bring them some guys like. I'm not earning doc look. We've got to bring their wives and get what are some guys. Don't just got to be on the same climate all know like it's just going to be a voice. That was the wrong decision. I I did. They're just like kids. Hang out weakened nonni jailer and and she's always wish your wife She's not coming in another guy rolls up. She knows mayor a why Ed just keeps go on this train. offline side of our wives like invited invited Thomas Didn't bite us and so he's like sitting next in Shit. The whole is when I get home is different. Each it somehow. Always let's look backpacking within playing wise memory wise Kansas City last year. Just kind of seeing his toughness cygnus zillion. It's always banged up. CAL gives a tough game. He kept swinging on his leadership. COP-OUT I'll say rolled can kind of feed into back up in that. I was pretty awesome. Seaside US encounters. I know you didn't play with him. This season but you have watched a lot of the Games. How much left does he still have in the tank and no one knows that? I think I think I look at it. I still think he can do it if I'm GONNA play. That's why won't behind me a quarterback. He'll long he's able to do it he can play. I won't play with him You know I think he's just he can do it as long as he wants do it. Thank you and I think also at the same time. No one knows that day when your body's just say no one knows. I think I think the hard part about this game comes log earlier for guys sometime later if we already have points this. That's it that's all. Oh my God I can you know not. No one knows when that Something all our guests Is that who is the the best player that you've played against. And then who also may be the most underrated player that you've played against someone that doesn't get enough credit best. I would say Aaron Donald. I rainy just monster. You'RE GONNA if you're gonna say someone else Yeah I think that's just hard. Yeah I've always thought grady. Tear Rob Dawson I thought he was all his. He's gotten a lot of this year all observed but in the land of Super Bowl do is try to be the even the game yet. Reese acts against those odds played against a piece of the ball player and someone on my team. I think Dante hightower things he does. It's just unreal at his size is his ability and also is knowledge of the game are just pretty impressive. I think definitely kill pro bowl that year and things like that. But he's always been clear that golden state getting that dance part is closed there. Yeah I WANNA get you out of here on this. This is that something that we always hear about the Patriots and what they do differently than other teams is practice and perfect situational football. I know you've only been on the Patriots in the NFL. But how would you explain how you guys do it differently. Yeah I think one thing I was law aw is communist crazy situations in Polish games and and the NFL watching it are. How are we going to handle the then? You know either that the next day or week whatever those GonNa talk about it and I think it's one of those things. Is that still prepared in any situation. You Know Down Twenty three while there's times he does all right. You've got two minutes situation thirty seconds left. You're down by like he's kicking the ball around. I put water on it which is not now eight three but it simulates that kind of luck and so he does things like that. Third Fourth and fifteen when the game details like the percentage of Laddis super-low would be coming back in twenty thirty. Or whatever you know and Those type of situations you get put into that environment and when you get out there not just play Avi feel prepared no way. Oh you're supposed to do you know how to handle it gone over. Yes I I think we do. A good job Something that was elected in Georgia Georgia. I want you to be now. That's fine yeah that's awesome. That's really cool here The man talking to you having watched play man you you kinda wanted to best compliments. I ever received from an old timer who played near the steel curtain. Today's on he said Willie View. If you was playing ball in my town you do a damn foreign job could back was a different. NFL And I've watched you you plan. You represent that you you kind of have a gritty backyard. You know you know balls against the war. More Bang. Can't begging them more and I wish there was more ballplayers Like you are part of our tribe so to speak kind of the underdog who nobody gave a shot but We kinda you know brought pail and shovel to work and we fucking made away so I hope you heal up. I enjoy watching you and you do a damn foreign job and keep on truckin brother in law all right thanks a lot. David Andrews Two types of ball champion for joining surf appreciate it as a great interview with David Andrew Center for the New England Patriots Willie. What was your favorite part of the interview My favorite part interview I think him really Kinda dig into what makes us the Patriots special sermon culture and the climate of being a part of the New England patriots. Him Pretty much explaining to people that details els matter Knowing your history knowing your teammate of the fact that he you know he fumbled the ball and had to make Brady. Yeah which is didn't say a word you you were right which is which is awesome but it shows that all of the the stores you do that you do here when in coming out of that place are true that everybody's held accountable animal. And you know. Here's this young. Rookie fumbling a ball and he's doing a lap. What a guy who just want suitable You know what I mean. Most I I know some quarterback. Somebody never ran. That let like well take. That wasn't my fault but birdied Inbar Bitch or or gripe he ran lap. He got back to work so disc Peeking through the window. How the Patriots handed at business And Ham it. I really appreciate his story Because when I was at the Pittsburgh for steelers Spicy Matsumoto Year we were a young officer. Mont Because we had to be we have lost. You know the two oldest guys Marvel's Kindle Simmons They got injured injured that year. So darn stay stepped in that regard and Max starks. Who was really play right? Tackle to left tackle In in how we all Kinda had in we had Jeff Hart Jeff Museum Justin Hartwig. Who is neutered attainment? So we kind of all had to figure it out during the season because we didn't start the season together we walk was kind of a makeshift group And so you tell. He's a guy who takes a lot of pride in his job. He's found his passion. You said he's at peace would be in football players as we talk about all the time. There's a lot of guys play football. But don't love football that I love football and he and he loves and he loves the day to day grind the muck of it. He appreciates it and you tell anyway. He talks those guys guys like that. Those guys like being around especially when it comes to talk and ball because because some guys are interested in other things and that's fine. Everybody has their own way in personality. That you tell on a Saturday afternoon watching eighty football games. He's he's he's good person to be around so he's as S. PMT would say he's a football guys guy he's definitely is just so cool listening to how how detail oriented was. He was just kind of how he got that way with all this coaching. You know from Joe Judge as a rookie to Josh mcdaniels. Dante Scar Neck Yahtzee Bill. Check doc all that stuff. I love the story. He told the annual Tom Brady and all the offensive line deciding whether or not to bring. They're just such a relatable thing with the time giving them almost no notice so they have to basically decide on the spot. Probably don't want to bother him with the details and then obviously Giselle and Tom Stealing bring your wives like the heck you were thinking it was going to be like some crazy party But that was Super Fun and just kind of all those inside inside the Inside Gillette Alette type stories are great. I I do say this When it comes to what he was able to I think he he? He started to go that way he talked about well he did talk about it. He talked about the super bowl against the rams How that are that office align really then getting to have a shot? It was all is on stopping Brady and stopping wrong and in a process. Stop in Grady. Lebron's you gotta get through so there's a there's is an immense amount of pride that comes with with that kind of mindset and attack especially when opposition is like damned the five live. That's a front of us we just gotTa get to Brady. That's disrespect because those guys did a damn good job. Evaluates Brady Valley is wrong but those guys had to do their part to get that far so from office long it was just like hold up in cakewalk. We Are we going to bring this out and they did that So that's why we you know we were able to talk about Joe Tony and trim around and you know his efforts in that game I was like I said I was at the. He's very modest talking about it. And maybe that's just that's the patriot. One of like I mentioned before but those guys kicked a Lotta ass super bowl. They got after down on it. Got After sue. They made those guys they neutralize those guarantees for Brady to have have a shot at the end for two grumpy to bring home and ultimately we ultimately Win Number six so He he was being. He was being modest but go go back and watch that few those those five guys they they get it man. They got afternoon delight an absolute delight to watch on tape game. Yeah Man Okay. It's on the the trenches can't recommend it enough but we want to thank the fans again for Rocco's another week surf and turf podcasts. We've got some very exciting things coming up. Stay tuned with us against subscribe to the Youtube Channel. We're going to be releasing some older clips full length. 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