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Jesse James

Killer Knowledge

06:11 min | 2 months ago

Jesse James

"As a teenager who wrote off to fight union militiamen with confederate guerrillas. Jesse James was never able to give up the outlaw life. Thanks to the attention. He got from his crimes. But do you know why one of his own men turned against him in the end? Welcome to killer knowledge the daily True Crime Trivia show. I'm Corduroy. It's time to play along with your friends family or fellow. True crime fans. You'll have the chance to answer five trivia questions with six seconds to make your guests so let's play killer. Knowledge Jesse James was too young to fight with the confederacy in the civil war but after union militiamen roughed up his family. A sixteen year. Old Blue Eyed Jesse joined a group of pro confederate guerrillas to take out his revenge and his life is a criminal. Outlaw was set in motion question number one who is the leader of the pro confederate guerrillas. Jesse joined a Benjamin Sims. Be Reuben Samuel C. Bill Anderson. The correct answer is C. Bloody Bill Anderson. After the war ended many guerrillas return to civilian life but Jesse chose to continue fighting because of bloody bill. Anderson's death Jesse targeted a bank in Missouri. He thought was run. By Samuel P Cox. The man who had killed bill this would be the first time. Newspapers mentioned Jesse's name and he was hooked question number two in what Missouri City was the bank robbery. That got Jesse James his first taste of publicity a Kansas City be gallatin see Lexington. The correct answer is B. Gallatin Missouri. You got away with very little money. But his escape is what caught the newspapers attention. But not all the bank robberies involving Jesse James and friends were that successful in fact the one in Northfield Minnesota is historically a disaster where some robbers died and only Jesse and his brother. Frank escaped question number three. Where DID JESSE IN FRANK ESCAPE TO? After the Northfield disaster a Tennessee be Kentucky see Wyoming. The correct answer is a Tennessee. After that frank settled down but Jesse wanted back into his criminal ways. The problem became Jesse's new gang. Were IN IT. Just for the money not ideology. So when Missouri's governor offered a bounty on Jesse one of his men Robert Ford took up the offer question number four. How much was the bounty on? Jesse James A five thousand dollars be ten thousand dollars. See Twenty thousand dollars. The correct answer is be ten thousand dollars. There are versions of the story that say Jesse New Robert and his brother were planning to betray him. On April third eighteen. Eighty to Jesse James was shot in the back of the head while in his rented home in Saint Joseph Missouri. Question number five to this episode. What was Jesse James? Doing when he was killed a eating dinner. Be Looking out the window C. dusting a picture. The correct answer is see. He was dusting a picture. Just like his own crimes. Jesse James Death was a public spectacle and Robert Ford and his brother took full credit after they surrendered. They were charged with first degree murder sentenced to be hanged and then fully pardoned by the governor to everyone listening. Thank you for playing killer knowledge with us. Don't forget to check us out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and on twitter at Park ass network and you can also listen to more episodes of killer. Knowledge and other park cast originals on spotify. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm corduroy join us again to find out if you can call yourself a true crime. Experts killer knowledge was created by Max Cutler and is a par cast studios original. It is executive produced by Max Cutler produced by Kristen Osservato John Cohen key to Mira and Jonathan ratliff sound designed by kristen killer knowledge. Stars Carter Roy.

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#723: Top 5 Overlooked Films of the 2000s / Madness Final / Assassination of Jesse James

Filmspotting

1:58:27 hr | 1 year ago

#723: Top 5 Overlooked Films of the 2000s / Madness Final / Assassination of Jesse James

"What kind of show you guys? Putting on here today on interested in now. Going to do this thing going to have a conversation. From chicago. This is film spotting I met him camping are and I'm Josh Larsen. This morning on my daddy was lonely over. Here. It is just past midnight. I've already robbed a railroad train. I'm sitting in Iraq and chair chat with another Jesse James. It's wonderful world. Casey affleck. With Brad Pitt in the assassination of Jesse James by the coward, Robert Ford, and for fans of the two thousand seven Andrew Dominik film. It is a wonderful world. Indeed, add on the outside looking in before the start of this year's film, spotting madness best of the two thousands turnament. And now here it is getting the sacred cow treatment Jesse James considered by many of its fans and overlooked masterpiece from this century's first decade, we give it another. Look n share our top five overlooked films of the two thousand plus the film. Spotting madness championship match is set. It's all ahead on film spotty. Welcome to film spotting. It's good to be back. Thanks for holding down the fort last week Joshu and Michael Phillips reviewed the new Dumbo. Tim Burton's dumb. But I know you're sorry miss that and hedger fun with a top five movies circus acts, and I thought it was a fun top five. Even if I hadn't heard of half of the movies, Michael pick. All man, he went full Michael Philip think every pick was earlier than nineteen fifty four. I wanted to say and a testament to a good review. I was compelled to listen to the entire conversation all twenty minutes, plus about Dumbo, we went long a movie, I guarantee you. I will never see preserve no chance for sure that as well. I did not expect the review to go that long. He was a little agitated Michael was. Yeah. I can appreciate that Phil spotting madness. Of course, we started with sixty four films from the two thousands this week. We get down to the final two not the final two that salmon I predicted when we came up with the seating for the tournament, but pretty close so. So we will have the final four results and that championship match a bit later in the show. Plus, we will share our top five overlooked movies of the two thousands. Did you have any special criteria? You want to divulge now other than movies that didn't make the film spotting madness cut? Not even that not short at all shortlist. No, no specific criteria. I will get into this. When we set up our lists. I had a formula that didn't really make it any easier for me. This was kind of hard great before we do that though the true winner of films. Spotty madness is the assassination of Jessie James after fans of film, championed it as the overlooked movie of the two thousands. We decided to lift it out of obscurity and give it the sacred cow treatment is children. No father made his living or why they so often they didn't even know their father's name. He regretted neither his robberies nor the seventeen murders that he laid claim to. And on September fifth eighteen eighty one Jesse James was thirty four years old. Another Jesse James manny's, I stayed up. My open my mouth open reading about your. All she knew. It is interesting ways. You overlap. You're the youngest of three James boys on the youngest five four voice. You have blue eyes though is your five feet eight inches tall on five feet. Eight inches tall. Believe I'm destined for great things. James? It's two thousand seven atom. Maybe not the best time to release a two hour and forty minute. Art, western even if it does star Brad Pitt the assassination of Jesse James by the coward. Robert Ford came out in October of that year it received some acclaim our friend, Scott Tobias was an early enthusiast, and I also gave it a hearty recommendation at the time, but very little in the way of box office in the US it made three point nine million dollars on a thirty million dollar budget that makes its to Oscar nominations Casey Affleck for supporting actor, and Roger deacons for cinematography, all the more impressive. It seems audiences. And even a fair amount of critics, though, just weren't in the mood for a moody meditation on the final days of the outlaw Jesse James played by Pitt as largely seen through the eyes of the man who murdered him played by Affleck since then however director Andrew Dominik film has slowly. But surely gathered a passionate following for me. Any reasons including one that listener Tim closure wanted to make sure we consider Adam. And Josh this is Tim Clova shar, formerly of Minneapolis. Now. Charlottesville Virginia just calling in to say, I'm really happy to hear that you're gonna be reconsidering the assassination of Jesse James by the coward. Robert ford. I love the movie for a lot of reasons, but I wanted to focus on the aspect of the film that makes the most hopeful that Adam reconsider his initial take on it. It has to do with the section of the film that follows the events that are laid out in the title, Robert Ford becomes nationally famous after killing Jesse. And then he and his brother Charlie leverage that fame into stage performance where they reenact that betrayal of Jesse on a nightly basis. The performance includes several details consistent with the way, the movie shows the killing Jesse getting up on a chair to fix the picture. Bob shooting him from behind jesse's wife screaming, but a few other details indicate how the production is meant to flatter Bob. Especially in the way, the spotlight hits him after he kills Jesse the way that he spins. Revolver before whole stirring, the gunslinger imagined himself to be and the way that he says triumphantly, and that's how I kill Jesse James. It's like he was inserting himself into the tales of derring do of the James gang contained in the books that he used to hide under his bed the ones that even Jesse said we're full of lies this preoccupation with history. And how choose to remember it in order to justify the present the way that we so casually transpose myth and reality that's one of the great themes of the western genre. And I think that play between artifice and truth is what is truly the great ace certified fee, Matic content, relevant Adam Kemp Nour's interests in this film. So I hope you enjoy your rewatch guys. And I look forward to listening to your discussion. Thanks so much. Thank you, Tim. So what say you, Adam? I think it does make sense to start at the ending here with this curious extended coda, how did that work for you? A specially in relation to these themes that Tim mentioned. This time around was the assassination of Jessie James Kemp, our catnip yet. Tim knows me very well apparently. And I would say that it was I was in long before that epilogue or that coda that we get though. And of course, that myth versus reality element that Tim touches on that's in every frame of this film long before we get to that point. I think I was mostly in because of the direction, and because of deacons cinematography and listener, Adam Grossman who was the leader of the Jesse James cult on Twitter, urging it into madness urging this sacred cow review into being he touched on it in an Email. He sent us in Michael actually touched on it last week briefly when he was commenting on the movie the best sequence in this film is that train robbery. And I think we can get into the elements of that they're really stood out. But I do love everything that happens in this film post killing of Jesse James, including that Nick cave performance. We get the bar with Bob Ford right there to listen. To Nick cave's version of now this legend, and I love that the most Bob can counter with now that he's being portrayed in this song is to point out that the singer got the number of James children wrong that one little factual misstep somehow undoes everything else. Right. And that dramatization we get on stage that Tim touched on is really stunning as well. There's a moment where the narration touches on how they were regarded as actors, and it's suggested that Bob is actually thought of as a fairly good actor, and that Sam Rockwell's brother, Charlie is a bad actor, but there's actually not a bit of truth in either performance, which is really what every actor is trying to get at. And we know that this is all this grant. Embellishment. But then something changes, and that's what I really love when Charlie becomes not only drunker, but more disillusioned more haunted by what they've done. And I think it's worth noting here in the grand scheme of things isn't he actually the bigger cowered in this scenario is that maybe even some part of the shame all of this. He's the guy that stood there with the gun drawn. But when the moment called for it. He couldn't do it. Yes, doesn't make the decision in that moment. But he does become the character. Jesse James he inhabits the man we saw as played. By Brad, Pitt the way he walks the way, he talks, even the script changes. They really unnerve, Bob. So there's the suggestion that this whole play only kinda sticks together and really in some ways their sanity only sticks together if both men can continue to buy into this myth that they themselves have created in perform this version of events that ultimately suits them best once that's shattered. They really can't go on. I think it's ironic too. If you remember that great line early in the film where Jesse asks Bob, are you trying to be like me, or are you trying to be me? This is finally Bob's chance to actually impersonate Jesse. Of course, he wouldn't do that in the scenario, but he could be the one playing Jesse. And instead, of course, it's his brother doing that. He's gonna play the role that he actually had in this scenario, even if. It is mostly fiction, and I do see that as maybe the ultimate sort of proclamation of his identity, which he was always trying to get at. He was trying to get at it through Jesse James attached to that myth and establish himself. It's also ironic that only in death does he actually become like Jesse? It's only by the very end of the film when we see that the world now has developed this understanding of who he is they have now their own kind of legend attached to him. And they think they know who he is in what he is. That's no longer all how he sees himself in some ways, I think this movie is always dealing with that idea that Jesse of course, never sees himself the way the rest of the world does. And when his life is taken he's assassinated two and we've been in athletes performance a little bit in those closing epilogue scenes the weariness that haunted. Look the way he even walks through that bar and talks to people seems to resemble the way Jesse spoke to people and some. Of those flashback scenes. So it's finally there where he does get to take on some kind of the stature and the character of Jesse. And of course, it's only in that fleeting moment in his death. Which is ultimately the tragedy of the movie, I think on one level and there's insult to injury. There too is because he's still playing second fiddle. I mean, his legend is not as big it's nowhere near as big. And I like that the coda also allows us that time to see him post fame post stage fame at least where he's had to recognize where he has fallen how far he's fallen. If you want to describe it that way. So you talked a lot about performances there in the code in those stage sequences, and I like it to maybe the thing. I like most about it is that it cements this movie as belonging to the second name in the title that this is really about Bob Ford, this film, ultimately in the coda makes that clear for me. So I like that about it as well. But let's talk more about performances and just get. Right to the main performance in this film, because I remember being really impressed in supplies didn't know much of Aflac before this film was aware of him. But certainly not that he had this inside him thought. It was great the first time around this time around probably my favorite element in the move. Yes. Just having seen what he's done sense. I think sometimes that feeds into our pre of an early performance from an actor when you realize he he had this in them. And he did a lot more with it after that. That's certainly the case with Aflac here and the way he registers I as this celebrity Stocker is so sly at that campground before that first robbery where he's he's always on the edges waiting for his it's super awkward. It's like if you've ever been in a scenario where people are waiting for their chance to to sneak in and say something to a famous person. That's how Aflac is playing right. He's just waiting for that pause, and then he jumps in. And it's just cringe inducing to watch. He's so good there. Then later on he gives that amazing dinnertime speech. It might be the same senior referencing where he talks about the similarities between him and Jesse James and brings up something. Like both of them have brothers whose names have the same number of letters. And that's you know, it's clear before this. But that's when it becomes clear should be clear to Jesse that. This guy's a little off that he's clinging to something like that to allow the legend to also include him in some way, and this time it really struck me probably because I had not seen king of comedy. When I first saw assassination of Jessie, James. But this Bob Ford is like a combination of he's somewhat of a throwback to Niro's Rupert, pumpkin. And then also precursor someone else who brought to mind was Jake Jilin halls. Creepy Lew bloom in night crawler, then you kind of touched on it in your description there where he he almost doesn't have his own identity. If you asked who is Bob Ford, you couldn't answer that at the end of this movie because he's always trying to be something else. I. Lou bloom had that too. And the last thing I really appreciated about athletes performance. Here is Bob always wears this shit eating grin, right? And throughout the film. And he knows it the difference between Casey Affleck, and Ben Affleck is that Ben Affleck has that same grin of a lot of his performances, but he doesn't seem to realize that and Casey Affleck wears it, knowing it something in the dirty nine that he gives us, and it it's just that extra level and ability. I think that distinguishes them as actors and certainly Casey Affleck puts too perfect use in this performance. Yeah. It was another quick comment. Michael made on last week show that I heard actually just this morning that really encapsulated from me, which is that Casey does not play Bob Ford with any need or sense of likability whatsoever. Completely willing to have the audience not really have any sympathy for him whatsoever. And I think very early on even as he's talking to Sam Shepard's Frank the brother to Jesse there is maybe a moment. Or two where you think man, this guy is being really hard on him, and he clearly just wants to establish himself give the kid a break. And at that point. We don't really know him side a little bit. But then all we need is about thirty more seconds to realize that he's going to test our patients, and there is his ability to be almost sniveling and conniving one moment. And then so innocent and naive the next. I don't know how Casey Affleck is able to pull it off. But he does of course, I also want to talk about Brad Pitt was as Jesse James a key part of my initial mixed reaction to this film in two thousand seven before I get into what I thought of this time. I'm curious if you had any change in your take on his performance, the first time, I think what I really keyed into about this film overall and pit was crucial to that is that it was this parallel to what it's like to live as celebrity, and I could understand what attracted pit to the role and that point is career. I think he was post to oceans films already. So he was an enormous star. And this is very much about how other people relate to stars how stars carry themselves and hold that myth even contemporary movies. So it was an easy standing I think that made it really interesting to me. I think looking at a now, and in the context of where it would go I think he was simultaneously not quite ready for this type of movie, but also perfectly cast if that makes any sense he was on the verge of stuff like a Benjamin button, which I like more than most people moneyball tree of life. I think are all really strong Brad Pitt performances different than the star or stuff he'd been doing earlier, but he was still mostly star here. He was right on the verge of those in this movie absolutely uses that element that star quality here. And also the undercutting of it to allow him. Now, it's very purposeful. How he looks in this film. He's not blonde Brad Pitt. Right. He looks older. He's pay. Taylor. And this all goes into the aesthetic of this. But he's got wrenching the risk out of is lacking white. He's always wearing. And he's still Brad Pitt. Did hasn't completely been scrubbed off them? And I think that's important. So I think it's a good performance. I think it's one of his better ones. I don't know if it's as layered and skilled as some of the performances we get from him later. Maybe I was more open to it. Because I I was just an early fan of pits presence on screen. So I never really had anything against him. And I do like that element of self. Critique here, it's crucial Jesse James likes the flattery. He gets from Bob, you know, and his dally for like he keeps him around at all -solutely. And that's downfall thing about the scene where he tells him to read that newspaper clip about the James gang. That's sort of this. He recognizes the simpering he's not a fool. He sees. Bob's ill intentions to some degree. But he just can't resist the flattery. Yeah. So one major change in my take on Pitt's performance. This time. Is that overall I have much more admiration for it? And I was not an early adopter to liking pit as a performer. I think it might have been moneyball really that turned a corner from me and then tree of life. And I think we've seen some really good performances since one thing that did not change. So just bear with me for twenty or thirty seconds. Here is how painfully irritating. I do think he is in the first third of the film. I think there is a real shift in his performance as the character and the story line shift a little bit. But from the very first time we meet him. He still doing that. Brad Pitt tick thing with his mouth where he can't spend more than a half a second onscreen without doing something distracting with his lips. And I wish I had. And I almost did this. I almost digitize the movie and put together a super cut over the lip smacking and all that would have been. I'm glad you didn't do that. I almost did it though just because like you're sitting there. I know you're looking at me going Adam this is just something gotta get over. If I showed it to you in like ninety second clip you'd go. Okay. Yeah. He's doing something there. There's no I believe it it sometimes involves eating. It's it's a tick though, that he had even before this role in the first part of this film. It's all over it. It's half of his performance as rusty and ocean's eleven hundred percent is and I think even there it's a way pit somehow thinks by giving that character those ticks, it's giving the character character. And that's the problem. He's going for some kind of insouciance that for me again is just pure distraction. And if anything on rewatch, I found it more noticeable and distracting one line that did stand out to me, though, from the voice over when they're talking about Frank his brother leaving and the loss. He felt when he heard about jesse's passing. There's a line in there where it says he had spurned his younger brother for being put culinary and temperamental. And I thought well, you know, all. Stuff with the mouth peculiar peculiar? So maybe pit was going for that. Okay. Before you get to the transition where you came around on the performance. Let me just suggest that maybe this was part of the plan. And I don't know how intentional Pitt was in this. But maybe in the casting they thought we're going to give the myth the man the legend in the first third because this entire film, slowly drains the myth away. That's that's the point of the movie right is to undercut that myth, and it works to give you Brad Pitt. And then take it away from him where he gets CLYDE or now, I don't know. I didn't do as close of a study the mouth movements. Maybe they're just as many in the final two nerds. There sounds like they're not. At least eight detention. I do wonder if this is part of strategy to say, okay, let's take some of that away. Let's be more still whatever the direction was is to undercut Brad the legend. Yeah. While we love to believe that it was all by design. But again knowing how much has gone on and other pit performances. I do think it was a device on his part away to get into the character. And I can applaud him for that. But I don't think it works on screen in that Email. I mentioned from listener Adam Grossman, he mentions that apparently Jesse James himself, even at some point in his life referenced Julius Caesar and feeling like Caesar, and of course, I'm going off of what I know historically, but the Shakespeare play and for me there are shades of Julius Caesar, of course, all over this movie. But in addition to thinking of him, and that betrayal on the level of Julius Caesar. I think there's at least some suggestion of a Christ figure in him too in perhaps the sacrifice he makes at the end of the film, which is something we can get into a little bit more. But he is such a mythical figure, and this movie does very clearly sort of pull on both ends of that rope trying to further mythologies him. And then at once d. Mythologies him. But he's such a mythical figure that in addition to Jesus in addition to Julius Caesar I saw him as this almost supernatural presence. He takes on this role almost of death. He basically becomes a grim reaper goes through a good chunk of this film travels place to place man to man, bringing with him fear and misery and ultimately to a lot of these people death, and as pit transitions into that Jesse James he becomes that paranoid grim reaper. He's really fascinating. All the lips of does completely disappear. It's replaced by that icy cold stare. It's replaced by a sadness to that overwhelms the performance in a good way knowing that everything he has done in his life has led him to this which is a life mostly on the run, and he surrounded by people who claim to love and adore him these sycophants who really ultimately are just constantly lying to him and betraying him. And along the way, he's even compromising his own values. And that's an element forgotten about from the two thousand seven viewing of this. Film. Originally, we see him in some of those moments where he becomes in his rage. A person that he clearly is not comfortable with him being. And you see those wounds in Pitt's performance, he's not shy about letting that come through. I think he actually plays Jesse has remarkably self-aware where he understands the effect that his character is supposed to have on a room when he walks into it. There's even a line in the voice over I think early on describing his alternate identity. Someone who made any room warmer soon as he came end will the pit we see the Jesse James we see later he brings a chill in every single room. He walks into and that's sense of shame and disgust with himself. There's a self loathing that I think is something he can't hide the man Jesse James can't hide and also to that entire less seen with him. And how that completely plays out beat by beat that moment of resigning himself to his death, and the heaviness of that moment. That's a moment where pit doesn't rely on sort of any movie star tricks or the charisma of it. He just allows himself to exist in that space, this odd kind of limbo this moment between life and death. Where time seems to stop. It is interesting that the movie presents at least I read it this way as a deliberate choice. Absolutely oh for him to allow Bob Ford to commit this act. And I guess there's a parallel where he might be a Christ figure. I think probably it's more record to say that Bob Ford is a Judas figure than that is a criminal trail. Yeah. I think there's you know, I think Jesse James daughter even might be reading from the bible or something right parallel to that scene. So there are definitely some elements of that going on and yeah, the weight pit carries that weight in the latter half of this film where this guy thinks you can read it in his face that all of the adventure. Which is how it's been presented in these books. And maybe lived by him to some degree. How has it led to this? It's this cornered sense that he definitely carries. So you mentioned in there. The narration, and we definitely need to spend some time on that. It's Hugh Ross doing this very novelist description of some events. And I thought it had just the right? I guess you could call it old timey enthusiasm, which might be drawn from those pulp novels the pulp westerns, but it also has little flourishes of high minded like classic literature. And then there's just a dash of modern skepticism that is very crucial. So it's sort of it's almost like a literary variation on those pub westerns that Bob Ford would read it's pulling from them. But doing something different. It's essentially doing the narration alone is doing what this entire film intends to do. So maybe you could say it's not necessary. But I did like still on this repeat viewing the element that brought to for sure I think the l-. Language, gives it a grandiosity that then something in his voice undercuts. The movie is doing those two things at once. And I think I just love to that. I don't know the voice, I don't recognize the voice and something about that detachment from it actually allows me to kind of look at it through that lens. And that's gonna come up more here in a moment of this myth making that the movie is as we said at once engaged in and also trying to subvert one of the things about jesse's character. And as all these legends are told about him, and we even see Bob writing as if he's maybe going to Penn in new tale of jesse's adventures with him, of course, part of it is he never gets to tell his story, right? As this whole thing is about storytelling on some level. His life depends on his anonymity. He's as we said, maybe a little bit of a grim reaper figure. He's a ghost. He's a boogeyman in some ways. He's even although he's real. He's flesh and blood. He's a fictional character. He someone that all these tailplane some. Yeah. All these tales have created a new version of Jesse James that he really isn't. And so many others really everyone that's in his orbit. Bob ford. Of course, one of these people. They just want to siphon from him as much as they can to create this new perfect story for themselves, and you mentioned the touch I love. Is that moment where he takes off the guns and sacrifices himself? If you will to Bob shooting him striking him down in that moment, it occurred to me in thinking about it, though within this framing of storytelling and how he never gets to tell his own story. He doesn't that moment. And I think he probably was aware of it. I think this character that we see on screen is probably aware in this moment that one moment alone is going to shape forever. The public's perception of what Bob Ford does to shoot because the troll. Yes. Taking control of his story in that moment. Even though it's actually in a passive moment. He's making an active choice, but he is giving himself over to a Bob wants to do. He does not fight back at all in that scene. And yet somehow he does control the narrative because it's in that one aspect mainly that he was unarmed and shot in the back that the public forever views Bob Ford as a coward. So is that maybe partly a motivation for? Keeping Bob around. We speculated before is. It was just the praise. Maybe this is like a long game. That plane is is thinking this is going to end bad family. Why don't I try to craft that? And here's a primary person. I could manipulate have that happen because he's definitely as you're saying, he's definitely aware of his legend. He's reading the newspaper clips, so. Yeah, if he wanted to choose how he went out, maybe this was one way to do it. Yeah. And as we've touched on, I think this is a movie this fundamentally about perspective. It's about what prism we choose to view the world through and that key line, the tragic line at the end is that moment where Bob tells us. He's actually telling Zoe dish anelle, this love interest character that she plays at the end of the film that he was only twenty years old when he did this the thing that's going to forever define him and brand him as a man in the public eye and the line that is so important to this film. I think is he says I couldn't see how it would look to people. He couldn't see he had no sense of in the moment. He knew what he was doing it. And he certainly was a lot more conflicted emotional about it than the character version. He plays on stage when he tries to make it seem more heroic. And maybe a little more justified somehow, but he couldn't see how it would look to people in this movie is very much about that. Especially in the imagery and the way. Yes. Dominic in deacons, choose to shoot a lot of these scenes. I love that use of the blurring we get on so many of those images, and I assumed the time I saw it. And in starting this film that it was a technique designed to replicate these kind of old time photographs that you are. That you the images. Exactly, even the ones we see his body. Right. End of the film. And I think that's true. And in fact, I saw a quote somewhere today from Roger Deakins who said, yeah, we were going for that. It was meant to be vodka tive in that way at the same time. It finally hit me after seeing so many examples of it in the film that just as much as it's echoing those photographs it's also Mirroring the glass that we are always looking through in that warp of the glass, how many shots think about in this film. Do you get where someone looks out their window to someone sometimes Jesse writing up and writing towards them, and they're looking at them through that pane of glass and things are distorted just a little bit. And I only noticed at one time significantly with Jesse. And it's just before he dies, which in some ways. I look at to is another moment that's D mythology him there because it's not the Brad Pitt the gorgeous. If whether Brad Pitt. We get in that moment. Just before he dies. He knows it's coming. He's standing at the couch. He's looking out the window and dominant cuts to his shot from outside looking through the window Jesse and Pitt's face in that moment, it becomes completely deformed almost like a Picasso painting where I is because of the distortion of the frame there are so many reflections in this film to just before he dies, obviously in the picture frame his face in the ice that he shoots at at one point. And some of the other visual choices that really stood out to me here that I love the point of view shot. Again, all about perspective the point of view shot when Bob Ford walks into the James household leading into the end of the film this time when he's come back, and Mary Louise Parker as jesse's wife says, oh, I didn't know, Bob. Smells out at the very beginning. But it's a POV shot that we don't even know. I don't think is appeal Vishakha. I we don't see Bob walking in before we see the shot that is essentially his perspective. And we know that this is all leading up to the assassination. That's why he knows that. He's there. We don't know. Exactly. What moment it will come. But that's why they've arrived at this moment together. And when he walks in that house, we get from his point of view him walking into the kitchen, and it's a shot of the whole family United what consequences of his actions, and what he's going to destroy our their on screen for him to consider at if he's not smart enough or empathetic enough to see we as viewers certainly are aware of it in that moment that it's not just the husband and wife meeting each other, but the entire family unit embracing at that stove is what he's seeing in that moment and one more that watching this at home on demand. I was able to rewind and look at it again because I had no idea what was happening. But I do think it just fits into this this overall scheme of things being distorted things. Being blocked of perspective being questioned is the moment. That's also in this and sequence when they're at the James house and Sam Rockwell is off to the side. It's a morning and Bob comes out just to wash his face in the water. And we see him washing splashing his face with the water and a one point dominant cuts to what his point of view would be with the hands closing on his face. Just for a split second. We get the darkness of those hands coming up in covering his eyes, which I think to echoes some of those moments of the film when candles go out or any other moments where sort of the the light fades away. It's another moment. Like that. That is actually very jarring. I think that sequence with water is also where I'm guessing it's a higher frame rate there. There's something place where it gets a little jittery and heightened and suddenly you become hyper aware of of something that just feels like there's something in the air. And of course, there is that that's the moment of decisiveness. Really, so yes, all that visual warping is absolutely crucial. What makes it more than just I mean, it would be cool if it was just evoke in the air, but what makes it more valuable than that are the the Matic relationships that you laid out nicely there. But I also you have to say there are just some pure beautiful mythology ising westerner shots here as well. Because as we've said a couple times now the movies trying to do both things. So you have to have the image of Jesse James writing over a hill at sunset and blocking out the sun one that I absolutely loved which is as much camera placement as cinematography and this'll probably bring us to that train robbery. At the beginning. One way we understand this is about to really happen is when Jesse for the it field trout, but then we get just we can't feel what he feels. But we can't see the pebbles start to fall down around his and realize it's on its way. So that's those are mythology ising shots, and it's. That you get one of those at the beginning because we're still in the myth there. Right. It hasn't really been an it's a question. I have for you when it comes to the robbery sequence where they do stop this train in the middle of the woods. They get on board and are there moments. What what's maybe an early clue in that sequence that this isn't going to be the sort of traditional western we might expect in the way this plays out. Did anything jump out at you? I don't know that I'm going to touch on the one year exactly thinking of. But certainly by the time things start to go wrong. And that includes just seeing the look of terror on the guy's face who they're trying to get to open the safe and the way Jesse treats him and the way he reacts to then when blood is actually spilled in that scene. I think is one of those moments that Nassau's really question. How much we want to prop up Jesse James as a hero in the scenario? And that directly counters the build up your, right? I love that moment that sensory aspect to it. Because at once. It struck me as almost the supernatural ability. It's not of course, it's very tangible reality based thing that he's doing. But who would think to do that who would think to know the trains coming because they feel the vibration almost makes Jesse James this this character who so attached to his environment? So in sitting at him standing on the track the moment. I mean, that's the moment. I actually here in my notes, I grabbed the frame and put it in here. So I could just look at it while we were talking and the way the light from the train is shot coming through the trees, the complete darkness around them him silhouetted completely in black hist carrying the lantern. But other than that the way that light is coming at him again at of folks to me this notion of the afterlife, some kind of liked that is racing towards him in this moment. He's actually walking away from it walking back to the barricades stepping away. But he also looks like this deathly figure in that moment who could be coming out of it towards us, and it is without. Question a moment meant to mythologies in the way. He's even just standing dead center in the frame on the tracks. His presence there is breathtaking. And then even the way before that deacons and Dominic show, the members of the gang with their masks on and the way the light just kind of goes through the tree they're in the. Yeah, he just punctuates the trees, and they almost look like ghosts with their white hoods on out there waiting. That's the moment where I was like, okay, I'm on board with the rest of this film. And you almost think at first that this is a budgetary trick like there because it's a relatively low budget film. Maybe they couldn't afford a whole train, and they didn't need it. The way the lighting through those trees captures the passing of writing through the forest. That's I mean, that's really I would have believed. There was a train. They're not needed to see them get on one, but they actually do and. Yeah, those are some of the D massaging touches that come early on the ones you mentioned. And I think when he is about to kill the train operator and one of the members of of the gang pull him back. And you see there's a there's a cruelty there that I think gets exacerbated as he gets more paranoid for sure later in the film, but we also see right away that there is a meanness in this guy that doesn't necessarily go with this. You know, Robin Hood type myth that is building up around him. You know, your knees? Why? Prey. Gone kitty. You're going to have to make me. The assassination of Jesse James by the coward robber Ford. Hopefully that was a good enough discussion. Josh for the Cultus out there. We will wait to hear from Tim. We'll wait to hear from Adam and many others. The movie is available to rent on most platforms or at your local library. It is not available in a criterion collection edition yet. If the James cultists needed new project, I'm sure they can get on that. If you have seen the film recently in agree or disagree with our takes. We'd love to hear from you feedback at films spotting dot net. Film spotting madness is down to its final two combatants. We'll share that match up next. Then dive into the film spotting top five overlooked movies of the two thousands. Stay with us. Shit. Slow down. Off cope. I do. She does book. The may ship the new amount. The emphasis. The late Agnes Varda with the photographer. JR in the pairs twenty seventeen Oscar nominated documentary faces places for those who don't speak French in that scene. Varda JR visiting the grave of the great French photographer, Cartier, Brisson JR asks Varda, if she's afraid of death. She says she doesn't think so but admits to thinking about it a lot then says she's looking forward to it. And when he asks her why she says because that will be that in a perfectly pithy response from the great Agnes Varda. I saw that line a lot being a vote in various tributes to her this past week in understandably so far passed away just this last week at the age of ninety and yeah, I think in her last couple of films there was always an element of her wrestling with her own mortality or her aging. None I can think of in her in her in her honesty about let's say it may have been in the gleaners. And when the camera might have been another. Culinary where the camera just rests on her hands. And she makes a comment about how they've changed over the years in all those years Varda had fifty four directing credits that began in nineteen fifty four with LaPointe court ended with documentary memoir Varda by Agnes that just had its premiere in February at the Berlin International Film festival for you. And I add them. I think we had both seen Cleo from five to seven years earlier, but really our main introduction, or at least immersion in Varda's work came back in two thousand seventeen when we did a six film Varda marathon, we plan that before we knew anything about faces places coming out that was just for to. It's we included LaPointe court the creatures one sings the other doesn't vagabond I would put up there as her other masterpiece that I've seen in addition to Cleo, the gleaners, and I and the beaches of Agnes for me, gleaners wasn't my favorite film of that marathon. But it's the one that I still. Think maybe sums up her artistic approach the best gleaning in everyday people and places maybe not always finding beauty but being open to that possibility and in doing so she often found it. Yeah. In keeping with one of our topics this week, our top five overlooked films of the two thousands. I almost did cheat and have a Varda pairing at number one because both the gleaners. And I and the beaches of Agnes would qualify both films from two thousand to two thousand nine and I think that as a pairing. They worked perfectly to sum up her endeavor as an artist in. Yes, I might actually point people. I two vagabond or Cleo from five to seven as a starting point. But you can't go wrong watching to very fanciful documentaries. One exactly like you said Josh in the gleaners. And I that shows how she can find beauty in everything in every part of life. Really? And then that introspective turning the camera on. Herself and being able to make that also beautiful art you get that dichotomy in those two films and would absolutely encourage anyone to seek them out. If you are curious about that marathon, maybe you didn't follow along with the marathon back in twenty seventeen but you have been reading or hearing all of these encomium to Varda, and you are interested in learning more about her work are marathons are available at film spotting dot net slash marathons. You can find all six of those shows, plus our Varda awards where we talked about our favorite picture our favorite moments and more from that marathon again films spotting dot net slash marathons and speaking of those Josh we are going to move on. Unfortunately to another filmmaker who just recently passed away, but Stanley dawn and has been a blind spot largely for both of us over the years. We're going to start with his nineteen forty nine debut, the MGM musicals on the town starring Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra four film marathon and probably just like the. Recent John cavities marathon that we wrapped up we are still deciding on what that fourth film will be. But we're excited to start it off with on the town here in just a couple of weeks on the town on order from the library as we speak looking ahead to next week. I'm gonna give one more plug for the conference on world affairs. I won't be on the show because I'll be out in Boulder, Colorado. This is April nine through thirteen. If you can't come to Ebert interruptus where we're going to spend four days breaking down, Wally if you can't come to some of the film panels that I'm on is part of the conference or you can't come to the film spotting meet up in boulder that's going to be April twelve details for all of this is at film spotting slash events. There's one more thing I'm squeezing into my schedule. I wanted to mention I'm going to be at first Presbyterian church in boulder. Thursday, April eleven seven PM. They've invited me to do movies are prayers book presentation so packed week. Thanks for giving me the week off from the show, Adam that will help me maintain my sanity in my place will be our friends got to buy from the next picture show. What else you guys got planned? Well, we're really just going to focus on cleared any. We're gonna talk about her new film highlife, and you're going to hear from the exalted one Clare Denise herself. She is going to be on the show. At least that interview is currently scheduled for next week, Scott may actually sit in and help me out with it. He is more of a Denise expert. I think I've seen four for films, but she still filmmaker who I feel like a bit of a neophyte with. So Scott, maybe part of that conversation. He will definitely be part of the conversation about highlife a film, starring Robert Pattinson. And Juliet Benicia says here said in deep space where Pattinson and his daughters struggled to survive living in isolation now. Julia Benicia, I'm guessing does not play rubber patents daughter. So what figure out where she factors in? But then then time travel with as nuts. This movie allegedly. Is you never know. I am sadder. I know I'm sadder about missing this show than you were about missing the Dumbo show. Probably highlife one of my most interested films of the year. So I will catch up with it when I get back. Yeah. Somehow, you're also. Going to miss out on the crowning of this year's film, spotting madness champion. Yeah. That's all right. Okay. You can live with that. The winner will be announced on next week show. I wanna go back real quick because you mentioned that when you're going to be out in boulder, you're going to have another film spotting meet up. I had a little bit of an impromptu film spotting meet up this past week when I was off. So I just wanted to give a brief thanks to a couple film spotting listeners. I was in Detroit for a few days had a couple of nights free wanted to take a group out. I was with four other people to a nice dinner, and the only person honestly, I really know in the Detroit area, the same person every film spotting Lister knows at this point Jeff Milo in Ferndale. Michigan. Of course. Now, I had no idea. Jeff, I'm bid admit where Ferndale was I wasn't. Sure. A Ferndale was anywhere near Detroit. And you would have a five hour drive. Did not a big state. He doesn't love the show. No, he didn't need to because it turns out that Ferndale is basically. I mean, I think it's a suburb of. -troit's call that it's ten to fifteen minutes away. So Jeff wait in. I said I need some restaurant recommendations good places somewhere where I can really have a good night out with some friends, and he gave me four or five options did my research one of them stood out and actually not far from Ferndale. We had to take an Uber ten or fifteen minutes north of the city. And then it just turned out randomly that we got there. And as we got to know our waiter max little bit. And we started talking that one of the other employees at the restaurant collon is a huge fan of film spotting and saw my name on the reservation, look at you. So I got to meet Colin, and they took incredible care of us, and we had a wonderful night and amazing dinner. So I wanna give a shout out. And thank you to Jeff, of course, for the recommendation, and then, of course, to call in for helping to take care of us got a chance to talk to him for a few moments. And if you're out in that area at all, and you have not gone to Mabel gray, you need to rectify. Hi that right away. You're pretty much Jesse James at this point you better watch your back. Cullen was not at all like Bob four. No, no, no, not at all. He'd been tried to find don't let Josh pate. You that way? If you shared a birthday or anything that we didn't go there talked about film, just talk about film a little bit. I think he said he was a listener since Mad Max fury road. Nice. Yeah. So again, thank you calling. Thank you. Jeff. Thank you. Everybody at Mabel, gray. One more quick note, some film, spotting housekeeping here, we just found out today as of recording the show that we are nominated for the first time for a webby award, which seems to be a pretty big thing. Only five shows nominated in the podcast category for TV and film. We're up against some pretty stiff competition it's about Mabel mill because we'll probably lose some listeners. Ready, but we are very excited in there is a voting component to this. It's not what decides everything like film, spotting madness, for example. But there is a people's choice vote in each category. So if you would like to show films spotting some love, we would appreciate that support. You can do it takes only a minute or two and the address is vote dot webby awards dot com. We will also provide a direct link to the voting for our category in our show notes film, spotting dot net. But everything you need to know about the webbie's is at vote dot webby awards. Maybe Jesse James cultists can put some of their energy towards that as Laureus -ly. That would be great. It would probably win. Different. If we could just give it another go round. Best. Maybe we can. Josh are you gonna tell clementine the rules of film spotting madness. There are no more go rounds. There's only the furnace. It's brutal. And I'm breaking those rules myself by smuggling that copy of Wally, Colorado, whatever take exactly ki- Winslet Jim Carrey there in Michelle Ghandi's, Charlie Kaufman, pinned eternal sunshine of the spotless. Mind. One of our four madness finalists. It went up against overall number one seed, no country for old men in its last match. There's no way it beat number one overall seed no country for old men, right? Will see we will find out here in a moment. But we're going to start with the other final four matchup Peter Jackson's the fellowship of the ring these plucky hobbits is making their run you believe it through the big dance. I guess we shouldn't be surprised. No, we shouldn't against Paul Thomas Anderson's. There will be blood. So here's the road to the final four for these two films fellowship. Eep city of God pictures, the incredible Tarantino's inglorious bastards and Christopher Nolan's the dark night. It wasn't supposed to accomplish. At least two of those. That is impressive. There will be blood that beat Joe Wright's atonement on me Nolan's memento and fons Korans children of men Michael locker in San Leandro, California says there will be blood didn't just reveal what movies could do it revealed what a director could do in this case recast himself as an tour with an impossibly precise. Vision partnered with the star who surgically embeds himself so deeply in his characters. You'd worry about the guy if he didn't seem so in control he made an uncompromising period movie where minutes go by without dialogue where shrieking string by a rock guitarist channels Penderecki in the shining guys. It's the coolest damn shift of modern director ever made in one of the coolest movies I've ever seen fellowship. It's the pretty good third. Best movie in a fantasy trilogy that had more interesting things to say down the road. If it goes in the furnace, the best Gullam scenes for adamant Josh to butcher are. Are still out there. That's a good point. I like that. I'm glad we still have no gallons gone too. Isn't it? Yeah. I guess. So that's not how it works. Michael Jamie, also chimed in I was seventeen years old when there will be blood came out, and it was truly a transformative experience for me. It taught me to understand the importance of subtext themes and the power of tour filmmaking in so many ways this film, still informs, my views of politics art and the relationship between the two, but the Lord of the rings trilogy is the most important film series of my childhood. Why would you take my childhood away for me? It will be a perilous journey, but I'll happily take on the burden of carrying PTA's masterpiece myself to throw into the fires of mount do while Ramon the Harada us out, please. There will be blood. Is that how you say that I have to consult my daughter soapy, also talks like that. Thank you Ramon for that. Let's find out then Josh does the clock strike midnight for our Cinderella. Who's going to advance its over for fellowship all of them every single hobbit going into mount doom to the lob into the fire. I like that idea all the losers. That's where they go. There will be blood one sixty two percent of the vote pretty decisive. Yes, now, let's see who Paul Thomas Anderson's masterpiece will compete against for film, spotting madness bragging rights, we have Michelle Ghandi's eternal sunshine of the spotless mind versus the Coen brothers, no country for old men. No country beat Duncan Jones moon. Ryan Johnson's brick Gammel del Toro's, PAN's labyrinth and Wes Anderson's The Royal Tenenbaums to get here. Attornal sunshine Gus van Zandt elephant picks ours finding nemo Sophia Coppola lost in translation. And somehow my beloved Mojo. Dry from David Lynch. Here's Stephen Miller. What does team sappy have left to root for the sun has set on Jesse and selene Bob Harris's whisper will stay forever untranslated. What once was will never again be. We wanted love, but film, spotting voters just weren't in the mood. I see what you did. There started spirit only to see it banished away. Now, there's a choice between masterful bone chilling nihilism and messy open ended humanism I'm turning in my Sinophile badge and voting for the bleeding, heart mess and next week. If somehow it becomes a battle of heart versus blood, you know, what hill I'm dying. We do. Now, this comment comes to us from I'm gonna go with timber lives e probably wrong. But it's a great name, Ken. Josh, please revisit eternal sunshine before he flippantly votes in the semi-finals these are both fantastic films. But which one provides some semblance of hope for the human condition, and which when shoots you in the head with a cattle gun that choice for me is clear spotless. Even and don't get me started on the over hype of there. Will be blood. I'm attornal sunshine in this madness. All the way. Now, I'm going to have to go back to my notes. I thought I voted on last week show for eternal sunshine. I just remember too. Remember this morning. I remember, of course, Michael going into his usual rant his anti. No country disrespect. Yes. And you you defendant. But I don't remember how you voted according to my notes here, which doesn't mean this is what I said on the show. I did vote for eternal sunshine. Okay. That's what timber. Liz, liz. Yeah. That's what timber watts. Right. That is. Okay. But you know, what? Maybe timber just thinks you're too flippant in general. I don't know how that's possible. Let's get to the results. Then Josh it is shockingly upset, but a fairly close one the number four seed attornal sunshine taking down the Cohn brothers at that. Last year's film, spotting menace champion with Fargo voted the best film of the nineties. The year prior film. Spotting madness champion the Cohn brothers being named the best living filmmakers. Yes. And yet they are out of film, spotting attornal, sunshine. Fifty three percent of the vote is attorney sunshine that strong. Or is there? Some Coen brothers fatigue. Is there a contingent of voters who just didn't wanna see them at the top again? And that's why they leaned. Maybe it didn't really inform my vote if I didn't vote for attornal, such which I can't entirely remember. But maybe that came into play because this is a shocking upset it really is. And obviously, it was a number four seed we thought a journal sunshine had a shot to go this far. But I really am surprised. And I do wanna share this one comment that I hope is being somewhat flippant and not literal from a listener named DJ Motte in Chatham mass. I'm going with Chatham. Yeah. We always butcher the Massachusetts names, but Chatham mess. He says a y f KM double exclamation points. Let you think about it for a little bit. But I know I speak so fi David says a turtle sunshine better than lost in translation better than Mulholland Drive. Stick a fork and film spotting for me. I'm. Done. Clearly, the listenership is a different demographic. The good news is I think one hundred minutes of free time every week to do something which doesn't aggravate me while reading some textbooks on tax law makes much more sense than the results film spotting madness. Here's the best part. Best of luck in the future signed used to be a movie guy DJ Mont, not just off. We didn't just destroy cinema. It seems that we've destroyed cinema. And we've definitely lost his webby. Actually, it's our listeners who ruined it for DJ. They're the ones who voted out on us. Just because we're hosting. We're sorry DJ apparently not going to be happy with this film. Spotting madness. Twenty nineteen championship match. It is a turtle sunshine of the spotless mind versus there will be blood. Are we sharing our votes? Yeah. I mean no-brainer there will be blood. Why that's true at all the film that I thought well, I love eternal sunshine. But it's the number two overall seed that happens to correspond with me viewing it as either the first or second best film. Sees them strictly based on your personal property. We're not supposed to do that. Oh, you do know. I said it happens to correspond. Okay. Let's see how this works. So just for timber lives as sake, I'm eating attornal, sunshine. Just Tim, you know, because I'm flippant about this. Okay. But you don't really mean it. Yeah. I think I do you do I will say for the sixth time in this tournament. I should really revisit eternal sunshine voting. We might actually revisit it. We're going to somehow hang onto one special copy for a sacred cow. Yeah. I'll stuff it where I've got wall. We if you others that I won't mention right now. Yeah, I'm voting attornal, sunshine. I feel good about it feel really good about it. There's no problem here. Okay. We're gonna move on then voting for films. Flooding madness is open at film spotting dot net slash madness vote. Now invite your friends this is going to decide it all and it only makes sense to close out. This look at spotting madness with a check in with spotting madness, founder listener, Mike Magon in Dover, New Hampshire. Hello, Adam, Josh Sam and film spotting nation. This is film spotting madness family father, Mike Marian calling with. Check in on the madness the tournament is winding down but heating up. It's given us more surprises. Michael Phillips, top five list and fewer disappointments, Adam camping are massacre theater. How about a check in on the bracket challenge. I want last year. It's seems that I might win it again. But the real upset might be at the back of the pack. Maybe just maybe the Larsen curse is broken. We'll have to wait and find out good look in the finals everyone enjoy the madness. It's true. Mike, the Larsen curse may be broken for the record took you four attempts to get out because that'll be out takes. I can't say that you are the loser. If I'm not going to get too gleeful yet. I know something could change it. Really? Can't really. No. I don't think you haven't lost. You are not going to lose. Have you ever? It's done someone so happy to just have not lost. Right. I know. Winning. I get it. I wish I could share your joy. But I think I'm going to be in your spot this year. So the brand is you me Sam and Mike Merigan. The loser has to watch the latest Adam Sandler movie to show up on Netflix. You've lost for at least four years in a row since we've been doing this bracket challenge you've had to watch a bunch of Adam Sandler movies on Netflix. It might be my time the standings Sam had no country versus the dark Knight in the final. So he's out. So he's out he finishes with a hundred thirteen points. I had the dark Knight and a turtle sunshine in the finals. Oops, if you look at my bracket that I scanned and submitted to the group I had a terminal sunshine in the final and at the last second convince myself that no I couldn't go against no country for old men crossed out eternal sunshine and went with no country for old men. I'm done with one hundred twelve point five points while I am so glad we have those screen shots brackets. I know they're now you Josh you had no country, and there will be blood in the final. So your new total is one hundred seventeen points. Now again, as I've said many times on the show. I'm never good at math. But I believe that means I've beaten both you and Sam correct? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That right. That's what it means. Mike Merigan also had no country, and there will be blood in the finals, his new total is one hundred twenty eight points while you both misguidedly when with no country for old men to win at all. So we can now officially call it. Mike marriage is the winner. It's over regardless of how the final finishes, but even more important than Mike Merigan being the winner is loser. And I lost to Sam by half of got hurt. Lots to Sam by half a point. That's not going to hurt as much as the Sandler movie, and I should add to your punishment. You have to watch it. And while. No breaking this up over twenty parts. We'll see we'll see Mike help me out here. Voting for film, spotting men is again is open at film swatting dot net slash madness. Voting will close five PM on Monday. And the madness champion will be crowned next week. It's finally over film spotting Mattis. It concludes with the winter the best film of the two thousands. Well, before we say goodbye to the two thousands adamant, I are going to share a picks for the most overlooked movies of that decade. The film spotting top-five is next stay with us. It's been a while since we've had a chance to devote some time to think us and acknowledging the donations of film, spotting listeners. You guys are the life blood of the show starting with Mark s and you young who tells us Josh lady, I came across film spotting back can six zero seven when he was still a high school student in Wuhan a river city in the middle of China searching for English learning materials now working in Minneapolis as data science professional young says, I still keep the habit of listening to your program. Trying to better grasp the universal language of cinematic arts. I feel now is a good time to start giving back to show my appreciation for all your hard work. Please be aware and proud of the global impact you guys have made and keep rocking, by the way, really looking forward to hearing more talks on Chinese films. I remember Adam is a fan of the heat of the sun. I promise there are many more worth checking out. So I hate to ruin the image of me for you young. But unless there's an alternate title. Or heat of the sun. He's confusing me with another podcast or another critic perhaps go with it's too late. I haven't seen that film, but contemporary Chinese cinema has been on our future marathon lists for some time. And we might just get to it at some point down the road. We also got a silver club donation from Daniel h parts on known and read from Salt Lake City who says hey film, spotting team I making a long overdue donation to celebrate getting accepted to UCLA's and they incentive studies program. Nice job. Read your show, definitely played a role in motivating me to get more serious about film. So before I go completely broke from student loans. I figured I ought to pay the piper, thanks for sharing your knowledge about and passion for the movies. Congrats read we also heard from Julio Olivera in Austin, Texas, the host of the contrarians podcast and someone I've been able to share a beer with down there in Austin. Did you actually share a beer or did you buy his own? Well, he did just give a positive review to Dumbo. So. Oh, I wish I hadn't bought him a beer. Ouch. So I finally donated Julio says it was sixty dollars. So I guess it's the five dollar month category. Sure, I'll do better from now on I promise I off the appreciation paragraph. You guys are great. I love the show. I love the intelligent conversation sense of humor, the interactivity with listeners, even your misguided. Bashing of most MC you movies. We really do that. Maybe I love them as they break, my heart. It was a blast to meet Josh when he visited Austin last year can't wait to meet, Adam. And Sam someday attending a live show is on the bucket list. Secondly, my two cents regarding the low key net flicks controversy going on. So you remember this this came up in comments? But last time we did donations which was like three months ago. So it's very low key Netflix controversy. Okay. Well, Leo says I think net flicks is great any new channels of distribution for films are good news. I understand people having trouble letting go of the theatrical experience, I prefer watching movies in theaters too. But shunning good slash interesting. Netflix movies as a protest is not. Going to do anything to get them to theaters supporting them. Well, supporting them wherever they play beat movie theaters. Netflix Hulu, what have you exhibitors, wanna make money show them that you're interested in a specific product. And they'll chase it not watching a Netflix movie doesn't do anything other than telling Netflix that they shouldn't support that filmmaker slash venture Julio closes by saying me, I'm going to keep enjoying the hell out of the net flicks era, and the Hulu era, and the Amazon, Primera, etc. I love there's a potential place for middle budget movies. Again, Thirdly, have I mentioned how much I love your show. 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We are a long way from winning time so pay attention Campbell, Scott and Jesse Eisenberg there in Dylan kids, Roger dodger from two thousand two movie that myself influence butting producer, former co host same van Haugen champion a lot on this show, including way back on episode eight at that point. Josh I called Roger dodger the number one overlooked movie, I guess of all time that was two thousand me. Yeah. Very bold movie that came out in two thousand two I called the most overlooked movie of all time, but both of us Sam myself do adore that film and longtime listeners are probably aware of that. I don't need to talk about Roger dodger anymore. Definitely not eligible for this week's top five overlooked films of the two thousand so this is becoming sort of tradition tying in with film spotting madness last year when we did the best films of the nineteen nineties. We discovered that Miller's crossing one of the films in the tournament was in need of rewatch, certainly by me, and we gave it the sacred treatment and did are overlooked films of the nineties this year decided to devote the first part of the show to the assassination of Jesse James by the coward. Robert Ford movie that probably has gone under the radar a little bit more than Miller's crossing over the past couple of decades. And we thought why not go ahead and shine a light on a few more films from the two thousands. The definitely did not come up in the film. Spotting madness talk on the show over the past six or seven weeks didn't make the tournament and also really weren't even considered by the selection committee, despite my appreciation for them not movies. Maybe have a wide enough fan base to justify their inclusion. Josh, how did you go about this time establishing what constituted an overlooked movie? Well, this was really difficult because I had ten years of top ten lists to access of my own reference as a foundation for this. Because that was those were the main years, I was working as a daily newspaper film critic. And here's where the trouble comes in. If you have somewhat contrarian tastes, and your top ten lists will have few titles that are little bit odd. I had twenty two films pulled from those top ten list that I really could have put on this list now, narrowing that down I got a little bit of help because on episode three ninety six we revisited. I've got a funny story about that. In a second. Okay. Good. We revisited top five overlooked films again of all time, and I laughed too much at what you put on yours. The first time you did it because I had three titles from the two thousands on that list. So these are the ones I disqualified for this list because I named him their monkey bone the live action. Henry Selleck foam, the weather man, Nicolas Cage comic drama, and then spike Lee's bamboozled. So that took three away. Whole bunch to choose from. I will down to the five I'll get to. Okay. So this is all true. This is how this actually played out and how big of an idiot. I am I'm approaching this top five list. And I had an idea that I slacked to Sam because I needed to sounding board, you know, often with these top five list and SAM's wire the same way we like to have organizing principle sometimes to guide us as we form these lists. And I suggested to him what if these are the top five overlooked movies from the two thousands. I would most want people to see almost as if I was programming my own Ebert fest. I thought that's how I could approach it. But then I said to him, but it's so hard to define what constitutes overlooked anyway that without coming up with that definition. I don't know that that actually helps me so I kind of just put it aside, and I went to more conventional criteria. I thought about movies that just like last time with the nineteen nineties these movies that weren't part of film spotting madness. They really didn't appear on any of the list. I found online of best films of the decade in either retrospective lists. Whether it was fifty or a hundred films. They weren't really included, and it will add that I know a lot of great films of probably qualify as overlooked based on box office that I think I've mentioned enough on the show over the years and also in Sinophile circles, I think they're regarded highly enough that they don't really make sense or maybe grown in stature files. Two time champion master and commander or the new world from Terrence Malick or in the bedroom or even like Winterbottom's twenty four hour party people. I decided no I'm going to give him a little bit of love here. But otherwise, they just didn't really fit for me. So and then forming my list I have my five movies chosen. I'm looking through my Google docs, just for some notes on films, and I come across a top five list, that's called overlooked films. And yes, Josh on episode three ninety six this goes back to may fourth twenty two. Twelve twenty episodes into your tenure here on film slotting. We did an overlooked films list. Basically revisiting the one that happened on episode eight of the show. Would you believe that all five of my choices were from the two thousand all my goodness. Now, I don't feel so bad. Even the memorial list title. I went with the never let me go memorial list is from the two thousand. No, I had no idea. I did that. But all five movies. I picked at that time were from the two thousand and even more than that that whole idea. I had that brilliant idea of programming. My own film festival. You're used it there. I already used it back on episode three ninety six I even talked about I would have a tend- on behalf of the film at my film festival to give us insights on it. No, new ideas here. We know we'll shut this thing ideas whatsoever. Please tell me. You should have been somehow involved. You should read my mind on this. So no, thank goodness that I had five different titles. Okay. That we're not those five otherwise I would of last minute shifting. I'm very relieved. So let's jump right in then Josh your number five overlook film of the two thousand. So when we talk overlooked. I think we have to talk comedies. They're just not taken seriously or thought of as they just don't have the prestige and get forgotten as we talk about the great films and look back. So I'm going to start with a comedy two thousand six is not a libra. Okay. This is from the Napoleon dynamite team of Jared. It's Rusia s Mike white here is assisting on the screenplay and yes it stars. Jack black this'll sell you Adam as a Mexican fryer at Norfolk age who dreams of becoming a Lucci door. This is masked theatrical wrestler in the world of Lucia libra black teams up with street criminal played by Hector has to go undercover. As a tag team Russell to make money for the orphanage, despite you know, it being banned by his religious superiors. Are there's a ton of funny stuff here. Trust me, Adam about highway a ton about religious hypocrisy. There's some wonderfully outrageous costumes, and I think this is one of Jack Black's best straight comic performances. He gets a few chances to sing, of course. So you gotta love that. His eyebrows have to be at their Wegelius because they're inexplicably competing with this curly mop top he chooses to have for the part. Okay. Listen to listen to us you. I know it is fun to wrestle nice by threat to the face punch to the face. But you cannot do it because it is in the bible not to rest of your neighbor. So use liver. Me. No, come on don't be Gracie. Listen, I know the restrooms get all the fancy ladies. Clones. Creams and lotions. But my life is. Really good. I get to wake up every morning five. Am make some soup. I get to lay in bed by myself. My life. Now is it problematic that Jack black is playing a Mexican character probably questions? No one would've asked you. If you had brought it up, and if so so as much of mask or theater black and definitely veers into Italian by way of Vigo Mortenson in green book territory, that's part of the pleasure of Nacho libra. I think ultimately to I can defend that choice because affection not mockery is at the heart of this movie. I think that's also a hallmark of the houses films and here, especially for the movies loser characters it gives Nacho blacks. Character the sort of reverence that other films give to matinee idols it. Just looks at him this way, no matter how ridiculous he is being and black place him as if he deserves this sort of vantage point, this sort of treatment by the end of the film, despite all the silliness, we believe at two Nacho libra. Adam have you seen it have I seen it? I glanced at the film spotting archive. I I've asked what is it with you and comedies where characters speak a lot of Spanish. Just padre. Yeah. Exactly. It's doesn't become a trend until there are three atom. Okay. Sure, I can find one looking at the archive of our ratings back on episode one eight of film spotting where that expert so. Main review Nacho LeBron salmon, I two stars each out of two out of five hundred we're working with the two star radio. Right. Not not fans of not you LeBron. We were probably too hard on it. Probably too hard on. It will give you that. I can just see the two of you sitting in theater arms yelled, totally serious. Critics do not like this sort of stunner percent. All right. My number five overlooked film of the two thousands is the movie that is probably the most UN overlooked of all five of my choices. Meaning it's the one that's probably most widely seen most people listening, probably at least heard of the movie whether or not they have made the time for it in they'd sixty five million dollars at the box office, not a huge haul. But you do have to consider that it was made for sixty two. So this was a gigantic disappointment. That's sixty five million worldwide in the US and only made like thirty six or thirty seven in its favor. It also is mostly appreciated by critics it has an eighty two percent on rotten tomatoes. But if you look at any list of the best films by this filmmaker the filmmaker is Ridley Scott made twenty plus movies. Matchstick men is usually in the bottom half this two thousand three conmen film, starring Nicolas Cage and the assessment of Jesse James Rockwell. So good in this film. This is a movie that has been an honorable mention a few times over the years have been inconsideration for various lists few times, including tough five con movies. It made only one top five list though, over the years, and I'm not gonna say which one that is because that might give away some of the fun actually of matchstick men. But this is nNcholas cage two to three years before he hits that straight to DVD point of his career that he still seems to be an -sconsin. He plays ROY who is a con artist in LA Sam Rockwell is his partner Frank, and he has a lot of issues, including threat syndrome and OCD, and he has a really bad panic attack. And that's when his partner suggests he sees a psychiatrist and through that whole process of going through therapy. He eventually discovers that he has a daughter fourteen year old daughter who's played by Alison Lohman. So while he's also trying to pull off. These cons, including one big con. He's also trying to kind of make amends for some of his past bad choices and try to be as best as he can be a good father to this daughter. He now discovers. Than mom. Listen. I'm glad I met you. I'm glad we met. I really am. But, but I've got a business, and I've got a partner, and I've got things certain way. And that's it. So I think it'd be better. For you. Most of all if tomorrow morning, I took you back home. What did I do wrong? I didn't even I didn't bring in get high take any money from your stupid dog. Never heard of the Bank. That's what you did. And you're losing Parker. And and that's no way for young lady to behave and shame on you. I did not plan for there to be. I swear any kind of theme running through most of my choices here. But it is a theme that goes back to our discussion of Jesse James this whole idea of storytelling and narratives and as a con artist. Roy is someone who makes his living off of narrative telling people what they want to hear or what he thinks they need to hear. And he's trying to go about changing his narrative the movie also largely succeeds based on us as viewers seeing. And hearing what best fits the story that we think is unfolding in front of us, our friend Keith Phipps from the next picture show writing. Then for the club said that Scott, let's the machinery the films grand scale con click into place with a craftsman's expertise. What's truly impressive is matched men's ability to capture the emotions that Dr. The machinery getting beyond simple greed to find the other needs that draw marks to conman and make fools of both. And I think that's obviously eloquently said there by Keith. But does get at what makes matchstick men such a good film? Yes, there's a certain precision to the cons and how they play out there, some great humor in not only the performance of cage, but in Rockwell, but there is a real heart to this movie as well underneath that kind of sheen of cynicism. And I think that's what separates matchstick men makes it for me one of the truly memorable films of the two thousand one I don't think gets enough love in two thousand three I gave matchstick men three out of four stars fan. Fan as well. And it was an interesting the two thousand were interesting for cage because this was after stuff like the rock and Conair. Right. I believe it was. So he's he's already had a foot kind of in that loony bin territory action stuff, but he was doing stuff like this. He was doing something like the weatherman, which I mentioned, which is a fantastic cage performance. So yeah, I I liked him quite a bit matchstick, man. And of course, Rockwell as good as well at number four, I have baby boy after a couple of larger scale projects like rosewood, and then his shaft remake John singleton returned to the streets of south central Angeles. That's of course, the site of his breakout film boys in the hood for two thousand one's baby. Boy, this is just a really thoughtful still stylish. It has a lot of singleton visual touches to it. But it is alternately deeply thoughtful take on a selfish twenty year old single father of two who learns to embrace his responsibilities. The. Lead role is played by Tyree skips in and at that time, he was only known as a model singer and a TV actor, I think he was an MTV J as well. At the time. He makes a strong feature debut here full of feeling this performances. He brings a reluctant vulnerability to it. That's not on the surface. But you always sense it and really does hold this whole thing. Together. Also good, which I had forgotten until I was looking back at it for this list, a young Terachi Hudson as his girlfriend. Yeah. Some Rossi's really raw scenes between the two of them. So this made my top ten list of two thousand one. Roger Ebert also fan at that time, and he noted it his review how this movie walks very delicate line. So I wanted to quote him here baby boy is a bold criticism of young black men who carelessly father babies live off their mothers. And don't even think of looking for work. It is also a criticism of the society that pushes them into that niche. There's never been a movie with this angle on the African American exp. Variance the movie's message to man like it's hero is yes racism has contributed to your situation. But you have to give it so much help with your own attitude now baby boy is probably I would say it's hardly the first film that comes up when people think of John singleton, especially since he followed this up with two fast. Two furious also with human, but it's absolutely worth. Look if you never made it that far down in singleton's filmography. Yeah. I'm a big fan of baby. Boy. It back in two thousand one in really my first full year writing any kind of reviews than as a grad student at Iowa. And I would quote from that review right now if I hadn't just glanced at it and wasn't totally embarrassed by it. Okay. So happens to the bundled doing that. But I do recall, I really enjoyed that film. I think it's one of singleton's better films. He's made some of these. I'm not a fan of at all, I would agree. And this is definitely up there with boys in the hood is one of his best. My number four is a film that comes from one of our films spotting marathons, and I didn't want to rely on these marathons too much when forming this list because those are by definition devoted to our blind spots. Of course, they're going to be fruitful ground for an overlooked less. But I'm guessing that there are a fair number of listeners in two thousand seventeen who chose to overlook the first movie in our new Argentine cinema marathon extraordinary story from two thousand eight as far as I can tell didn't even get a theatrical release in the US. There are no box office numbers. That I could find not only that when it came up as part of our marathon. We'd never even heard of it. Right. You hadn't heard. I'd never heard of it. Or heard of the director Mariano, she NAS and up until recently when movie had it as an offering on their platform. It was pretty much impossible to see this isn't a movie that you could just get on VOD or streaming anywhere. Now as far as I can tell you can see it on Amazon prime you can rent it if you are on prime, and you just need to set aside four hours. Yeah. But if you do that, it's well worth it. Absolutely. It was your. I'm not sure if you mentioned this. It was your best picture. It was my favorite film from that marathon. And it's a movie that takes three different characters who just have letters for names, we know them as h and x and z and their stories that don't really seem to be inter connected at all. And frankly, Josh has been so long since I've seen the film. I'm not sure that the movie does ever really unite them in a way that maybe. Expect with a movie like this. I wouldn't say it all comes together. No, no. It doesn't come together with that kind of neat resolution. It's one of those films that as you watch these characters and their lives and these actions unfold in front of us, you just never know what to expect the extrordinary of the title is completely appropriate. Because it I it seems like all these characters are leading completely unremarkable lives. One of them is a board. Civil engineer one is an architect and surveyor another one is basically just a bureaucrat, but they do get caught up in these truly where marketable situations. And I love the way that we become sort of active in the creation of these narratives unfolding because of the way we see here's that word from Jesse James, again perspective the way, we see different events unfold. Sometimes multiple times sometimes the cameras just moving closer gives us as viewers more of an opportunity to scrutinize. And it's not a case where it's really about showing things different points of view. It's not as if the filmmaker is. Trying to make a variation on Rosh Amman where it's this, character's perspective and this truth. But we are always aware that there is a storyteller pulling the strings who can give us one perspective. And then change it for us. And some of the techniques that are used here to are. So great the flashbacks that we get there's dream sequences. There's a direct address to the camera by a dead guy. They're split screens. And yet it is so novelist. It's one of those movies. I know you're gonna think I'm copping out here. But I think probably even you Josh didn't watch this in one four hour sitting did you if I recall, I had a dinner break. Okay. Yeah. For some reason came right back to me. Yeah. It would be a lot. But whether it's one break or two breaks or more. It's the kind of movie that you can sort of check back in on a book the right? That's nice to come back and just pick up at any point. And you're going to get caught up in these characters and their events. I looked at letterbox not the end all be all of logging. Movies, necessarily or telling us how widely seen movie is. But a good indicator and only eight hundred five people have clicked on extraordinary stories as a movie that they have seen to put that in perspective in the mood for love had sixty two thousand and spirited away had two hundred twenty eight thousand so only eight hundred and five people on letterbox have seen extraordinary stories. It was my favorite movie of that entire marathon. And it's well worth the time. Yeah. You're highlight of that marathon. I think I gave that a word to a different film, but did give two different awards extrordinary stories. So definitely worth checking out. All right at number three this one for me is a really deep cut almost totally forgotten. But it really affected me at the time. And it deserves to be remembered it's two thousand three's my life without me starring Sarah Palley as young woman. She's wife in a mother of two whose diagnosed with terminal cancer. She doesn't tell her family. And instead spends her last few months trying to. Settings up for them for life after she's gone. And this includes identifying a wife for her husband who's played by Scott speedmen. And now at the same time. She's also starts taking these chances on things that she feels like she missed out on in her fairly mundane life, all that probably sounds like melodrama, but knowing Polly as an actress, you can probably imagine the subtle sincerity. She brings to the part, and you also have some strong work here from our roof. Alot who plays a man she meets, and he comes to represent what she does feel like she may have missed out on the director is is about who shot and she also did the screenplay. She's adapting Nancy can canes novel here. She just has this delicate almost magical realist touch that keeps things from feeling to soap opera, and there's an specially nice flourish at one point a grocery store dance number where Polly's character is just doing her everyday shopping and everyone around her begins today as she. He just thinks about this space. She suddenly come to inhabit with her health. I think you can also really see my life without me's influence on the films that Polly would go onto make as a director, especially something away from her with has this. You know, there's a confirmation of mortality going on there and also Polly's documentary stories we tell where she interrogated family secrets of her own not as many laughs here as natural libra. But still a really strong film, very moving one. It's worth a look if you are going to be tracking down some forgotten gems from the two thousand. Yeah, it's one that's overlooked by me, I have not seen my life without me. Great pick. I'm going to stick with the Canadian theme anyway. And actually, you mentioned Sarah, Pauly and stories, we tell this is another playful take on the personal memoir before I give you the title, though, I have to read this Email from film, spotting listener, this is a title that I knew was gonna make this list instantly because at the start of home spotting men. Dennis. We got an Email chiding us for overlooking. This movie and many others as you're going to hear the subject line was film. Sputtering madness. There's gonna be a theme on the show anger Richard pout PU perfect he lets out. Let's go without he's pouting. And canada. He says I enjoy listening to your show and like to indulge in inappropriate umbrage as much as the next guy regarding madness selections. I just received an Email from Vancouver international film festival theatre announcing a retrospective of a filmmaker whose absence from your bracket is so dumb founding that I kind of can't take any of its result. Seriously, you had Yee from Taiwan and in the mood for love from Hong Kong. But nothing from Jia Zhongfu who only spent the entire decade masterfully, filming the story of China's a Russian into the twenty first century. I know a touch of sin falls outside of your time line, but you still had platform unknown. Pleasures the world still life and twenty four city available for selection platform and still life at ought to have been no brainers. I'll watch a movie about people living in a city as it is being systematically demolished to accommodate the reservoir slowly rising behind the Three Gorges dam rather than the curated violence of comic book earth, tarintino earth or Middle Earth every time. Wow. So lot of films there that film spotting listeners have probably also overlooked at least a few of them. But all that said, it's not one of those movies that I'm going with here. It's the one that's in Richards PS, he says you also ignored the scrupulous documentary of guy Madden's brain that is my Winnipeg despite your fun this for films about imaginary realities. Yes, we didn't include infants spotting madness. My Winnipeg his memoir, his duck euthanasia as it's known from two thousand eight movie that I viewed at the Toronto film festival two thousand seven the same festival. I saw the assassination of Jesse James by the coward rubber Ford. I saw my Winnipeg in a much more alert state pretty good tiff that year, I might add my three. Three favorite films ahead of my Winnipeg at that fest. We're no country for old men, atonement and Juno. My Winnipeg is this wonderful blending fact in fiction and yes fantasy and it's still historical in nature. It's giving us some truth about the city of Winnipeg come away knowing much more about that city and its history than you may have ever thought you needed. Of course, you're also learning true things actual things from guy Madden's life. He chose to view. When a peg the city, he grew up in through the prism of his own childhood experience. And I was listening back to some of the conversation that I had along with Mattie, actually, he just joined the show in two thousand seven we talked to guy Madden in one of the little malls, just a coffee shop right there at the Toronto film festival outside the theaters. And he mentioned that this movie came about actually because it was the assignment of the producer he throughout this idea. And it certainly wasn't Madden's original concept because he doesn't. Typically, make documentaries. He has a real reverence for documentarian, and it just wasn't a mode that he saw himself working in. But it was always part of the assignment to make it personal. And that's what hooked him. Now, Maddie saw the screening at that fest where guy Madden did the narration that you hear in the movie he performed it live though at the festival I unfortunately missed that. But as I said had a chance to talk with Madden, and it was fun. Revisiting that conversation. I asked him what came first because the imagery is so vivid in this film. So outlandish fantastic. And then you've got this wonderful voice. Over narration that goes with it. I was curious which came first did he have the narration he had the story? And then he found these images to match it. Or did he have the images in his head and match the words with it? He talked about that in the interview and also about whether or not going back and dramatizing moments from his own childhood, but with actors laying him and his family whether. That was just on his part, a fun conceit for film, or whether it was actual catharsis or provided any catharsis. Here's what he said. It's only recently that I discovered that filmmaking Israel therapeutic in ways that I never suspected. I never I've not once worked through any problems thought into the root of them or anything. But it's just that filmmaking takes so long at least a year to get a feature out. If you're even a fast mover, and and you have to watch your own movie so many times, and you have to read what you've written. And then and then in other words, you end up getting bored of what you were once obsessed with and it's actually kind of form of version therapy. It's just that you just instead of being at peace with your childhood traumas as you like them through just growing tired of your time which and they don't traumatize anymore. So you've turned them into something else. Something you're not proud of. And it was a really fun conversation with Madden. Lot of great insights, and you can find that conversation in our show. Notes for this episode if you are curious over at film spotting dot net. This movie did get a criterion collection release in January twenty fifteen so it may have a little bit of a higher profile than some of the movies that we're talking about. But at the same time, you look at letterbox only fifty three hundred people market as viewed I don't think it's that widely seen certainly could be seen by a wider audience. And in my case, I that's probably the first title that would come to mine if you said guy bed, but I haven't even seen it. So this is an overlooked one by me as well strangely. The only man film, I've seen as Dracula pages from virtue diary, so I've got some work to do when it comes to med, okay? At the number two spot. This one people are probably going to be vaguely familiar with. They remember it came out. But may not have actually seen it because it didn't really do very, well, even though it came from big director and had big stars. It's what lies beneath from the year two thousand Robert Zemeckis is the director here. And this is his thriller about a married. Couple played by Harrison Ford and Michelle Pfeiffer. Whose house appears to be haunted after their daughter leaves for college and that causes some friction between them. You know them. Well, who's dead? Listen to me he killed her. And I'm not crazy. Jodi, how to say onto the bathroom Jody nothing nothing happened. But when I went back there she was there. She was. You you say. Are you angry with me? Maybe it was busy. This starts as a rear window ref. So Michelle Pfeiffer suspects her neighbor of murdering his wife, and then it goes on later to employ some bathtub imagery, similarly, to the way, Hitchcock used a shower, and psycho Samak is such a master craftsman that I just love seeing him play with this sort of suspense, especially in those type sequences, then it goes on to do the Hitchcock thing of undermining a beloved movie star. Once Ford's husband comes under suspicion. So think about you know, what he did with James Stewart vertigo, that's what he's doing with Ford here. This was widely dismissed as a Hitchcock off. That's what most people saw as I took a little bit more generous of of edge point. And appreciate it as an Omar. And what's the difference? You might say for me. I saw him using the conventions to do something new, and that's bring in this element of the supernatural. Now. Others hated this. Because it was decidedly un- Hitchcock, Ian. So they were damning meccas for. Own aping Hitchcock, and then making this left turn that wasn't like him. But for me, I like how it made things distinct from the master while also allowing the movie to draw upon him. And ultimately really in what lies beneath what's most Hitchcock you about it is that it's all about guilt and for me. That's what made the movie stick. They're definitely thrills and suspense and Gotcha moments and all that stuff. But this one stuck with me too because it is a room nation on guilt at the end of the day. Yeah. It's another one I need to see I've only ever watched scenes from what lies beneath over the years. Just coming on TV always seems to be at that exact moment where we get that switch with the husband caring and some of those bathtub sequences that you are mentioning so I guess I kind of know where the movies going. Yeah. Even if I don't know how it gets there. My number two is my third film in a row randomly from the year two thousand eight and it's another documentary the one that's a lot more grounded in reality than my Winnipeg in its at the death house door. Directed by Steve James co-directed with Peter Gilbert who also produced Hoop Dreams with James was a DP on that film, actually. And he also produced another James film that I considered for this list two thousand two Stevie. This is the letterbox description of at the death house door, and it will become clear in a moment. Why I'm reading this summary an investigation of the wrongful death of Carlos Delana who was executed in Texas on December seventh nineteen Eighty-nine after prosecutors ignored evidence inculpate a man who bragged to friends about committing the crimes of which Delina was convicted my immediate response to that was that's funny. That's not at all. What I remember at the death house store really being about. I remember that the Carlos in a case comes up, but that's not the primary narrative of this film. And sure enough if you look at the first comment on letterbox, it's two stars from a user the says, but what they actually mean is there is nothing being investigated is almost two hours of an effing vicar talking to the camera. That was the very agitated response to at the death house door and that plot summary, the plot summary is just off as I said, it does explore that case and his execution and Chicago Tribune investigation into that case. That's in fact, how this project I was pitched to Steve James, they said we wanna look at the death penalty and use this case as the key story for the film. And this was all what St James told me at a two thousand sixteen event looking back on twenty years of his career, and we touched on this film. He said that he was interested, but he was apprehensive for a variety of reasons. And then they mention a man named Carroll Pickett. They said he was the chaplain for fifteen years at this prison unit in Huntsville, Texas, and he had presided over ninety five executions including Carlos dune, and that's for James where the light went off. And this where that element of storytelling comes into play pick. It made an off. Audio recording with each one of those ninety five men just before they were ushered off to their execution. James said, that's the film. That's the story. I wanna tell I can bring in these other elements, but I wanna focus on ticket. And this is something I think James has shown throughout his work an effort to give voice to the voiceless to the marginalized to the overlooked in society, and there is a political element to this film. But it's really more about the existential toll that it takes on this man who is a fascinating character as you would imagine. There isn't really a clear sort of call to action I would say by the end of the film, but it is a philosophical and very personal and very emotional journey. And as far as overlooked on letterbox, this movie, eighty eight views, really, eight views rather death sorta and I would say not only see it. But it's up there with James's best documentaries yet. So it came what over ten years after Hoop Dreams has. Known that probably has a lot more views. But also on even though I've followed other films in his career. I haven't seen another James film. That is definitely going to be in consideration for my list when we do this next year, the twenty tens will be the interrupters which touches on some of those same themes that you're talking about so yeah, I need to see at the death. How store all right? I think we're up to our number one. Right. And I'm gonna go with the promotion, I've talked before about my two thousands artistic crush on Steve Conrad that name is also going to be an overlooked one one that most movie fans aren't going to recognize right away. But he wrote nNcholas cage is the weather, man. Which was as I said on my top five overlooked films list. We did earlier. And then here he wrote and directed the promotion, this is only feature direct to'real effort came out in two thousand eight comedy drama. I think I describe it. It's maybe more comedy than drama, but it stars John C Reilly and Sean William Scott as assistant manager. Gers at a grocery store who end up vying for this new manager position that's opening in a store. They're building nearby. There's a similar vibe here to televisions the office, which I didn't pick up on then. But we happen to be binging the office right now at home as a family and both are interested in some similar things. They both burrow into the mundane of the every day, and then comically highlight, you know, the pettiness that can be found there. And also the humanity that surprisingly on display in these quotidian places. And as a matter of fact, Jennifer plays, Sean Williams. Scott's wife, Scott is really good here. I mean, I was a fan of him stiffler in the American pie films. But this is a much more nuanced sort of comedy that he absolutely nails. And you know, I can't get enough of John C Reilly when he's in comedy drama mode. This also subtler than he is in my beloved, Cedar Rapids. I think this is a subtler film overall. And he gets this solo shuffle alone at night in the grocery store. That made another top five list of mine. We did top five dance sequences in non musicals number. That one episode four twelve I don't know why I have to. Here's here's my grand unified theory for my list, Adam. Yeah. Dance numbers in grocery stores. Okay. That's that's what I used to form this list knowing the office, which begins by laughing at the people that we see in the office. Here we begin by laughing at these two guys. And then it turns into something where we do begin to sympathize with them, and it allows the promotion to become here's where it's helpful to look back at when the movie came out to for me, a real part of the value of it, which may not register as much today, but back in two thousand eight it was really trenchant and timely just on the brink of recession. You've got these two decent average Joes who are caught in this rat race. And instead of just lampooning that it kind of makes us understand that they're both clawing after the same piece of moldy cheese. And they're going to they're going to lose out at the end. And the comedy comes. In recognising epithet with their plight. So I just really love the promotion, and I haven't done the letterbox thing. I'd be curious. Maybe I'll get that. And see a minute here. What the viewings are for this. Because it doesn't get talked about nearly enough now, and it's one I haven't seen. I was going to say that I haven't seen any of Conrad's stuff. But actually, I know I watched the weatherman I rented it at some never reviewed. It never really thought about it. Seriously liked the film like the cage performance. It wasn't a film ahead is passionate reaction to as you. But I have never seen the promotion despite all the time you have brought it up here over the years. I definitely do need to see it and just found it on letterbox two thousand views. Okay. So yeah. I finally see the promotion speaking, Sean, William, Scott, I did think about role models. The David Wayne comedy, which I had. He's so good in that one. But didn't quite make the list for me. My number one is a movie that I did initially think of and then write off because I thought. Longtime listeners are very familiar with how much I love this film. But the reality is when I think about a film from the two thousands going back to that original premise that I band in the movie that I would love to watch with an audience at a film festival, and that I know not enough people have seen because they probably just like me initially dismissed it because of the title. It's Lynn Shelton's hump day. Yes. And this is a film that won astute critic who gave it a positive review on his website described? This way writer director Lynn Shelton takes a boozy late night. Query what if a pair of male heterosexual best friends agreed to have sex on film for an amateur porn contest? And turns it into a fought full revealing and challenging consideration of what it means to be a friend, a husband lover, and a straight man that is one Josh Larsen writing about hump day, a movie that came out in two thousand nine and was my number two movie that you're was initially thinking of Shelton as one of these filmmakers who might fit in nicely as one of the key filmmakers of this period. But actually, it's a little bit later if you look at we go way back in two thousand six which I haven't seen then my effortless brilliance, which is the first time, I think really garnered some attention and then hump day that was two thousand eight and nine and then we get your sister sister and touchy feely later on into the twenty later on into the twenty tens and the movie is this. Thoughtful consideration of what it means to be all of those things you touched on Joshua friend, a husband. It's very much a movie about marriage, and it's also very much a movie about art and about artists or people who at some point in their lives, find themselves questioning some of their choices and wanting to make some kind of emphatic statement, they want to put it in the parlance of some of the films. We've talked about here on the show so far to craft new narrative for themselves to break out of the story that they are currently in. And they think that this radical act being captured on film is going to be what does it for them them in this case is Marc dupe loss and Joshua Leonard who were best friends back in college and then reconnect here in their mid thirties. Stop trying to let me off the hook. Because you know, it sounds like and sounds like you're trying to put this off on me. You can't handle straight up straight up straight up. You would have sex with me on film for this project. Are absolutely do this you could or you would. I would do it. You would because I would. Really totally. But I don't think we should do this. Because like neither one wants to back down. Like this shouldn't be about us like each other. Like this should be about us. If we wanna make these art we should make a piece of art together. I think the I think the idea is how can weird, but I think it's great weird, but it's amazing to push boundaries. And that's could be arch ado, this movie that I do think offers a lot to think about but also is really funny and sit into this kind of mumble core concept, at least as far as being it seems mostly improvised structured, but improvised, those to have great chemistry together dupe loss and Leonard. And I guess at the end of the day any movie that can be called hump day and be as profound as it is deserves to be seen by more. People hump day is my number one overlooked film of the two thousand I like this. You should quote me in your picks more often. I don't think effort on that before worked wrong. But yeah, actually you there. We'll have your reasoning. Those are our top five overlooked films of the two thousands. I'm guessing we might have a few honorable mentions. I know I do because they were the movie's already mentioned by me on episode. Three ninety six obviously said, it was my never let me go memorial list all films from the two thousand somehow. I had shotgun stories the great Jeff Nichols debut enemies of the people documentary. I saw I believe at Sundance fast food nation from Richard link later black snake moan, the Craig brewer follow up to hustle and flow that Sam and I both adored and son of Rambo which salmon I saw a festival and also love those were the five that obviously would fit in great on this list. If they weren't already mentioned a couple others all throw out that I did seriously think about Josh John Cameron Mitchell's first two films Hedwige angry inches getting a criterion released. But I still don't feel like maybe gets the do it deserves. So I thought about it short buses and other film that I really do enjoy. Mysterious skin. I wouldn't say that Greg Iraqi films starring Joseph, Gordon Levitt is a film. I enjoy because it's a very tough set, but very well-made film and finally remain baronies men pushcart, maybe the number six film on this list for me. And I'm remember one Ebert particularly really championing yet. He did. In fact, I saw it for the first time in my Ebert class at the university of Chicago's Graham school when I did my remembering either course looking at films that he champion that brawny film was on the syllabus. There you go. All right. So I have a whole host of honorable mentions. I could get to I'm just going to grab a few from that how many other films Steve Conrad. Unfortunately, what I brought up where the highlights. All right. So dinosaur is this early Disney computer animated effort, that's beautiful artifact and also a moving survival story unfaithful is an infidelity drama with Richard Gere and a career high performance from Diane lane borrows, very heavily more. Heavily now, I can recognize after I've seen David leans masterful brief encounter. I just seen that recently and realized how much is that playing on like faith. Confessions of a dangerous mind. George Clooney's direct to'real debut still has best autofocus. This is an underrated Paul Schrader film. Yes, haven't seen it with Greg Kinnear as sex addict Hogan's heroes star, Bob crane. I'll just leave that their role bounce is Malcolm de lis sweet family drama set around a south side Chicago roller rink in nineteen seventy eight stars bowel remember bowel. Adam were you listened to him in the house, and then one more here skycap and in the world of tomorrow? A stunning first step into are now dominant movie world of digital special effects for better and for worse. But I just love how sky kept loss haven't seen that one. So a lot of films overlooked by the other host here on film spotting. I think that makes it a pretty good list, and I will point out, although we don't necessarily always list the honorable mentions if. We were going through those very quickly. You couldn't jot down some of the titles. You're curious about we put the titles for every top five list, including a lot of the clips that you hear played on the show other links that might be relevant on our website film, spotting dot net. You just click on lists at the top of the page, and you can look back at every single top five list and all the titles, the make are less. That's our show we reunited for one episode. And now you're off we're gonna have to ease back into this every week. I guess over at the website. You can also find fourteen years of reviews interviews top fives in the show archives, and you can vote it's finally come to the championship round of film. Spotting madness. Best of the two thousands paternal sunshine of the spotless mind, or there will be blood only one conservative. Also, if you haven't already please do check out our sister show, the next picture show. It's available wherever you listen to podcasts this week and the next week. They're going to pair up. Jordan peels us with Philip Kaufman's the invasion of the body snatchers. That's from nineteen seventy eight if you. And get yourself. A film spotting t shirt or any other merch visit film spotting dot net slash shop. If you wanna connect with Ataman, I on social media Facebook Twitter Adams at film, spotting I'm at Larson on film, and if you'd like to get the weekly film spotty newsletter. Just subscribe at film, spotting dot net slash newsletter out in wide release this weekend, the best of enemies, starring a couple of names that have come up on this very show. Trudgy P Hinson plays a civil rights activist named an water faces off against CPL's play by Sam Rockwell who is exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan in nineteen seventy one. It said endure North Carolina over the issue of school integration. And wait a minute. I know I'm just immediately having three billboards flashbacks to all that criticism and Rockwell playing another racist character, and I'm I'm just not gonna see this film. Well, this sounds like a green book three billboards mash up nobody needs. But I'm more interested in. Exalted cyclo. Yeah. Is that really thing? Yeah. That's really a title. That's really a title. No wonder gowns. No wonder Spike Lee, saw the Ku Klux Klan as fodder for comedy. There. You go pet cemetery also out starring Jason Clark and Amy Siamese. John Lithgow also stars in that remake in Shas AM, which seems to be getting pretty good reviews. And when I took my kids my two youngest this past weekend to see how to train your dragon three. They wanted to see that those it's probably my least favorite of the three. It's fine. Gorgeous to look at. Yeah. It's fine. It's fine. The boys liked it a lot and they liked even more the she's AM trailer. So you're going to go to this weekend. Maybe I'm guessing I'm probably going to take them to that. And in limited release here. In Chicago ash is the purest white from the director Jia Jonker came up in our overlooked top five lists, the director of a touch of sin mountains may depart and still life. I still life is the only one of his films that I have seen. And I know Michael Phillips was just here last week gave this a glowing review in the Chicago Tribune said it was one of the best films of the year. So far next week. Josh you are out. And I think I'm doing okay, I'm going to replace you not only with Scott to buy but with cleared any. Adam bowl up and you're pretty good. Okay. Cleared a knee will be here. We will talk about her movie highlife starring Juliet bench, and Robert Pattinson, Scott Tobias from the next picture show will join the four discussion of that film. And we will do the honors of crowning the film, spotting madness champ film spotting is produced by golden Joe too. So and San Haugen without salmon, golden, Joe this show wouldn't go. Our production assistant is Andy Mitchell. Thanks also to Candice Griffith saying the listeners of the film spotting advisory board in special thanks to everyone at WBZ. Chicago. More information is available at WBZ dot org are music this week comes from hembo. More information is at Henry music dot com for film spotty. I'm Josh Larsen met him Dr. Thanks for listening this conversation, conserve no purpose anymore.

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We talk rock each and every day and include you in the conversation here on the podcast each week. Just a little sampling of some of the things that we do on a regular basis and. And this week. I am going to bring you an interview from Jesse James DuPree, who is the lead singer of the band jackal Jesse dropped in on my radio show a couple of weeks ago. He's making the rounds on tour with jackal, a jackal, Liz Aban that is more of a regional thing in certain pockets of the country in the US. They do exceptionally. Well, and another areas is Jesse kind of touches on they still sort of struggle to find an audience, but they still come and play in some of these clubs in places. I gotta tell you if you haven't seen shackle in a while. They are an amazingly great live band really refreshing to in this day and age of so many bands that I rant and rave about playing tracks and not playing truly live and fake vocals and all this stuff, Jack Liz as real as it gets. And it really is a great raw fun live rock and roll show. Jesse James depre-, one of the great frontman. We have out there, really. And if you haven't seen him in a while do so because it's really really good look forward to seeing. Jacka when they play Rockall Homa where they do really well and play a lot. They've played a lot of gigs at Rockall home over the years. And I look forward to being out there and hosting Rockall home again memorial weekend in prior with all the great bands performing and jackal being one of them who will perform on the Sunday night. So Jesse came by and as he always does when he comes through New York, you know, he just comes in. And we just we just shoot the breeze, man. We really, no agenda. We just get talking and see where the conversation goes. And what comes up and the conversation. You're about to hear went for about an hour and fifteen minutes straight. We talk about jesse's bourbon, we talk about music. We talk about Brian Johnson. There's a lot of talk towards the end of the interview about Brian Johnson who Jesse is a close friend with now, obviously Jessie wasn't going to reveal anything or show his hand about what a CD may. Or may not be doing. But he does tell some great stories about Brian Johnson. It was a guy. I also know who I abs-. Absolutely love. I think he's one of the best guys you could ever meet in church early the real deal. But it's great to get some perspective from Jesse because Brian Johnson performed on a couple jackal tunes over the years with Jesse as well. So that's a fun part of the conversation. We talk about chainsaws, we talk about all sorts of great stuff. It's a pretty long interview. So we're gonna get to it very quickly here with Jesse James depre-, you will love this. We have great talk about a lot of stuff, and it's a wide ranging conversation. It's coming up in a matter of minutes here on the trunk podcast. Couple of things for me. I'm going to be let's see at the time. You hear this? We do the math on this because I'm recording. This a little bit ahead of when you actually will hear it. So. Yeah. So at the time you hear this podcast. I will have done a motley Crue special from the rainbow in LA for my Sirius XM show, and we'll have attended the premier and the premier party for motley Crue. Whose film the dirt? And of course, that film if you're listening on post day hits everywhere starting tomorrow on Netflix. So. Maybe a soon as next week or the week after. I'll be able to bring you my special with Nikki six and Tommy Lee of motley Crue, plus some cast members from the dirt movie, which will have had happened two days ago. If you're listening to this on post day, so if you again, there's a perfect example, if you have Sirius XM, you probably already heard it, and you heard it go down live and hopefully enjoyed it. Maybe were there if you're in southern California, it is on demand right now on the Sirius XM out, but here on the podcast. I've got to give it a week or two before I can post it for everybody else to here. So I'll get to that very very soon hopefully in a week or so be able to bring you that interview with Nikki and Tommy whoever other guests at the time that I'm doing this open the event hasn't happened. But it's was scheduled for what would be last Tuesday. If that makes sense for you as far as when you're listening to this. So a lot of good stuff coming up in addition to that I'll be epicenter with Donna Jim in North Carolina. I already mentioned Rockland home. Whitesnake show in April at the Seminole hard rock in Hollywood, so many things in the works and still being talked about. So the summer's getting here it's getting busy lot of concerts. A lot of appearances lot of remote broadcasts, just keep an eye on those social media outlets. I mentioned especially Twitter at Eddie trunk where I keep everybody up to the second updated. And all the info there. 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With a panel of experts. One on one interviews with top newsmakers and listener phone calls. Download the Dan Abrahams podcast every week on podcast one. This is the Eddie trunk podcast. Welcome back everybody. This is at trunk and thanks for listening to the trunk podcast. And now, let's get to our interview. Jesse James depre- of jackal. I set it up earlier. So let's get right to it. Enjoy. But seems like inevitably last few times I see him and have seen him. I walk away with gasoline on my sneakers, and I always know I was at a jackal show when I have wood shavings and gasoline all over my clothes and sneakers, and that's just happened at rock llama. He is my good, buddy. Mr. Jesse James DuPree. How are you brother? What Mr. truck I'm still trying to get that gasoline off my sneakers, man? Well, you know, that's your you have now been cleansed as the jackal that's the Jacqueline that's the jackal baptism. Some some sawdust some gasoline and some bourbon, and you know, you're at a jackal show. It's all rock and roll. Right. Is that smell of two and one gasoline in there? That's how this millennium. How you doing everything? Good. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. You know, you go. I think about it. I brings a smile my face every time, they know I'm gonna see you guys. And you get to watch you play. And I I watch you go out there, man. And and it's amazing because you, and I will talk in the in the wings of stage, and you'd just be as calm as all hell and just kind of hanging out talking. We're shooting the shit. And then boom that I song kicks in and you run out that stage, and you become this whole other lunatic out there do is that just as newsy and crouches bring that out of you. Or how the hell do you flip that switch like that every night, man? I mean when you step out when you step out in front of thirty thousand people impossible, not just have that adrenaline rush through, you know. And I mean, we don't take it for granted. I mean, we've been jackals twenty five year anniversary this year. And I mean every single night for us is Madison Square gardens. And again, we we've been you know, over the years. I mean, obviously, you know, we've never been the critics choice. I mean, you know, we're just a blue collar rock and roll band music get it or you don't. And as I told you before the people that get it. They come out. They have a good time. They they're not coming up. See the show coming out to be part of the show and the people that don't get it. Well, I generally those are the same people that have a hard time admitting that they masturbate. Well, thankfully. Is your question? It's what a blast in, you know, in those of this like you are fortunate enough to get to go to like walk home is and the you all those big festivals and stuff. I mean, his party's big taught us people, you know, they spend their their vacation time to come out there and do that. I mean, it's time to throw down and deliver. And you twenty five years touring with jackal since the ba- and the band is celebrating twenty five years. Have you ever had imagined that nights where you've been out there on the road? And you just can't like it's tough to flip that switch. Maybe you're sick. Or you're not feeling it or you're not you're not really into it. I mean if you had nights like that. And where you just really couldn't you couldn't get you're kinda funk out there. Or does it always just kind of the crowd? Just drive you to be that guy. I I don't feel like, you know, I don't feel like we've ever not. Not old together to be able to deliver the same caliber of a show. I mean there are. There are times whenever they are as if you get a little bit of a bug or cold or whatever. But you know, it's hard as thing. I generally by the second song, it's blue completely out of. And it's hard as we sweat. I mean, you got a fever. It's going to so. Yeah, we gotta give shout onto the rest of the guys in the band because it's such a killer ban. Of course, Jeff Worley and Chris Worley and Roman Glick. I mean, the whole band just it's real it's raw it's live. It is just you cannot not feel swigging some Jack. Or actually, I take that back some of your your own bourbon, which is so great and having a good time out there. Let me ask you man, looking back twenty five years, which you're celebrating right now, did you ever envision when this bam was signed together and back in nineteen ninety two and released that first album, did you ever envision this would go that long. Yeah. I mean, I I did. I mean, I mean, we, you know, we've out the band is we get along great. I mean, you know, we we hear so many other horror stories of other bands, and the dynamics within the bands. And and you know, in the little, you know, the rubs and all that stuff that goes on the breakup and back together and all that stuff. And and and it's a head scratcher because we you know, we knock on wood. You know, we had those issues, and and you know, we are you know, we are brothers with each other. And and and we, you know, even when we got a chance to get away from each other. We don't you know, it's and you're the guys the guys are the bane is more lethal lethal than ever. I mean, I'm I'm enjoying the stage more than ever and just there's just a group we've hit, and and it's not just a group of each other group with the crowds that are coming out. I mean, I don't know. It's just it's a good thing and twenty five. Years is going by the blink of an did you did you get a chance to read the little insert because I just did a little stream of conscious that I wrote in put on the on the insert of the new twenty five jackal twenty five CD this out. And did you get a chance to read that? I'm looking at a looking at when I got the pull out right now. Right in front of me, which is the cool little poster here, but I don't see. I don't see any insert though. I don't see anything missing it. 'cause I've got the pullout in my hand right now. But you've got jackal twenty five years Guinness world record holder Twenty-one shows twenty four hours, but I don't see anything that you wrote. On the bag. What's on the back of or or maybe some the city? I don't have the in front of his maybe some the in that show CD sleeve itself here because I'm looking at the CD, and I've got it. Right. Oh, yeah. Got it right here discuss the twenty five years jackal is that is that what you're talking about. Yeah. On the inside jacket. Yep. I didn't get a chance to read it. But I see it now. Chance read that because I mean, I just did a little stream of conscious and just kind of still in the highlights. I mean, if you just peruse over it. You know, it's a fruitful career, man. It's been a I mean, just just one hell of a ride, and and that was just to get I sat down and wrote that, you know. And I mean all any naysayers detractors of what we're about what we do. We're just a celebration of the fundamentals of rock and roll, and and to bass and drums chainsaw if you will we just attack it every night. You know, people say, you know, you're you're tired of doing the chain. So, you know, it's like does Angus get tired of wearing schoolboy outfit at night or just kiss get tired of wearing their makeup. Or does a aren't maybe get tired of carrying eighty around. I mean, it's just a rock and roll thing you do and who you are. And and and and you're you're to be able to have something that people connect with I'm reading through some reading through what you what you wrote here. It is great at touches on all the things throughout the the twenty five years remind everybody about the Guinness world records, you have to Guinness world. Records. Give it a hundred shows and fifty days, and then we twenty one shows in twenty four hour period. You know, what we up at a radio station down in Texas, and they would bring audience we would play for thirty minutes and then to be minutes to change the audience out and then we'd play in play. But with twenty one shows and twenty four hours, and I thing my ass off at the first seventeen of and then and then after that, I started getting getting a little more the hell out. Yeah. And people may forget and have forgotten about you guys played Woodstock ninety four. Yeah. What's ninety four? And you know, and we were, you know, there was actually like, you know, there was a bunch of, you know, big magazines that were out that you know, that we got really great placements in from our show and and late night television. David Letterman and stuff was showing clips of jackal. It would think he said always peacefully Woodstock. They, you know, the Eddie Gibson guitar comes in they'll set up a little of artists stations, right backstage and gets an Woodstock ninety four set up a little artists with you could sit around and jam with each other and play guitars, and there was a gypsy that worked for gifts and kind of knew him and by until Jesse gypsy. Let me play guitar doing the show. That's a couple millimeters. Take it down and play the guitar during the show. So he says, okay. So I thought to tick and he takes down strings it up strap on it. And we go out, and we're playing she loves my, you know, the love some you can say here, you can say anything you want here. Place you talk, and and so in a plane, the tar, well, I dropped my pants down to my knees actually down to my ankles and pick the top of my head, and I'm dancing around because there was a forty foot square screen that I was being broadcast, and I didn't wanna miss a chance from penis to be ten foot. Well, and so I was able to look up on the screen it, you know. The plot. So so anyway, I I get the song bus to talk into pieces and threw it into the crowd dove into the crowd after stuff. So then we give back up to the artist compound and the gap from gifts us going. Hey, man, you was until Bush do it in the crowd, and he's kinda laughed any walked away and come back a few minutes later, and he goes man you, but you can talk to the crash told you home in. They're gonna be freaking out about that. Go to play for it. Okay. I'll for whatever. And and then that night, it was all over the news. You know, be to get stuff. And he called me back, then people at corporate gets in corporate. They love it. On TV like every thirty minutes. Headline news goes no worries. You you can you can have it. You're crazy things like, but yeah, we had a great show. It was ninety four and and one hundred fifty days twenty one shows twenty four hours Brian Johnson. What's the Daryl from the DMZ? Yeah. Wanna I wanna touch on that? But what's the I'm looking through the poster here that comes in the CD? What was the cannon shot? I missed that. What is that? Well, I got shot out of the candidate insert Sturgess for the TV show. I didn't see them. Away. Maybe I did. Now, I remember that. Because you were very appreciative about it. I called down to thirty foot barrel, and they shot me out of cannon over the crowds. Head into a net on the other side of the. I remember that now seeing full-throttle how how does that wheel? It. I was wearing and evil knievel suit. I was I was thirty foot down a barrel. I'm looking up looking up the barrel to that little bitty hole, and my but was pulled like a bunny rabbit snows. And and and you know from zero to seventy five in about a fifth of the second. And it was a trip, man. It was I can say did it once to be able to sue to be shot out of a cannon. Like, what are they do? What what what's actually behind you? Besides the blast to like shield, you from being burned or whatever like how how does it actually work from technical standpoint? The the guy David Smith, he's human cannonball. It was his cannon. He told me jesse's I'm gonna bring you out there and do this. He goes, but one day, you're going to be around talking to a famous radio disc jockey? And you're going to ask you how that can work. You gotta give me your word that you won't tell any now and said I gave him the word that I'd never share how that works. And so. So you're out why I didn't know it was a closely guarded secret. But so so obviously, there's some sort of like patented way that this thing works that insures that you do not get hurt. No, there's nothing that ensures. You don't get hurt your back, you'll break your damn neck. But yeah, they they kept telling me before I did it get you gotta get your back. You break your neck. You gotta get back to break you and the only practice I had was they cured me up in a big bucket truck being electric company bucket truck in and I was having swan out of that thing over and over forty fifty up in the air, and in flip to my back onto this big heart net that you lamb those nets are say salt. And if if it's not safe if land hit I break your neck, but anyway, I did it only did it that one time. I don't really care to ever do it again. I mean, I'll catch a bullet with my teeth the cameras rolling, but I'm not willing to do that. And you know, you've got a relationship and friendship with Brian Johnson ACDC for a long time. He's popped up on the jackal records. You talk to Brian at all recently. A couple of months ago, and he was racing in Atlanta because he's still racist cars racing in Atlanta. And he invited me to come hang out at the racetrack. I I was out of town chest. You know, he's a he's such an inspiration. You know? And I'm thing is still cross for me that that he and axel not actually he and Anga pull it together and do some more touring. Yeah. He such a wonderful guy. Man. I love that guy. And I haven't talked him since everything went down. But I'm rooting for him. And I hope that that they do because you know, he popped up on the internet. There was a clip of him over in England or something actually got up a club and sang a little bit. And he sounded great and seem to be doing great. So I'm you know, I love that guy. We've had them. I've had him on my shows a couple times, and I wish him nothing, but the best I hope I hope this all works at self out somewhere down the line. What again what it is ration-? And just he's a lot of times you make singers and bands, and or guitar whatever you meet musicians, and you know, and you you wanna think that they're one way and nine times out of ten you kinda get a different pressure when you actually know him. But he's he's one of those guys that he exceeds everything you'd want to lead singer CDC, the just he's such a humble guy. But he's just he's he's nothing, but rock I love that guy. Absolutely. Let me ask you because we should mention remind everybody that this is the twenty-fifth anniversary of the band jackal Jesse James depre- is joining me now and the album there's an album to commemorate this which is coming out this Friday called twenty five years ninety two to twenty seventeen and it's a it's a compilation record. You personally pick the tracks that you wanted to put on here to to some of the career up to this point. Of we the band did. I mean, we try to a couple of tracks every record. So that every was represented. I mean, there's gonna be a lot of people fuss because you know, this is not on there. And that, but it's it's just it just kinda spans, you know, a lot of stuff that you know, that we felt you know, the different flavors of what we do. And and you know, we we're proud of it. And I think everybody will enjoy it. And there, and we did we did a virgin twenty twenty some years ago twenty five years ago whenever the band first came out everybody was saying they sound like ACDC meets black oak, Arkansas. And of course, we knew CDC, but to be honest with you, we weren't really that familiar with black oak, Arkansas new were. But so we we immersed ourselves learning about black oak, and we fell in love with a song hot nasty. And so we cut that track about twenty twenty two years ago hot nasty, but we never released and we found the all the basic tracks sport in the studio a couple of months ago, and so. We finished it out. And it's a it's it's it's a new a new a new song for us that we put on this record. Yeah. And that's interesting because you're right. There are a lot of people when they first saw you come on the scene and how you sing in front. The band is like, wow, he's got a definitely there's a Jim dandy thing. Black oak, Arkansas. But a lot of people said that about David Lee Roth to when he first came on the scene that that it was definitely in the Jim dandy sort of world. But that's interesting because you really didn't that that may have been the case people may have felt that way about you. But that really wasn't an influence for you. Right. What Jim dandy stuff? Yeah. I to be honest. I didn't really learnt him until they they they they compare this. You know, but I in my influence in all honesty was TV preachers, wrestling and. You know that kind of and the old the old, you know, Showtime type blue singer assaulting like James, Brown and Wilson Pickett. I mean, I I learned so much from you know, from the from all those things and you laugh about TV preachers. But those guys know how to sail, and they they know how to sell themselves, and they have competent. And and there's you know that wrestlers and just had I just love people that that have got an energy about him. You know, and and then you look at James Brown's and the the Wilson pickett's, and Joe text, and you know, those guys just you watch them perform and just they leave it on the stage. And there's nothing they hold back. Nothing. I can absolutely see where you're coming from with that having seen you perform live so many times that there's definitely that sort of, you know, you're preaching preaching, the rock and roll gospel, those people, and and you do it. So well, hey, one other thing I forgot to ask you, and I don't even know if this has been brought to your attention. Speaking Rachael Homa, but a lot of people brought it up to me. But I did not see or hear it for myself because I didn't stay out there. Very long on the stage after you played Rockall home ah. But were you aware that Sean from see there was on stage? Basically roasting you guys during most of their set. By Roku told me about it. I I wrote in our road on my motorcycle from Kansas City, and there were Johnny. I wrote in a motorcycle two hundred something miles came in. I was completely baked and basically came in, you know, put some Allah will me, and and and then came out and hung out with you. And you know, we we did radio row over their stuff. But, but they you know, they came and told me that everything was push back running late, and I didn't have nothing. I didn't have I didn't even ask why you know. I think you're not talking yet. We're talking about you might even been the one that told me a bird landed on a holler transform. Yeah. There. That's right there. There was a bird that took a bird landed on the transformer out at Rockall home this year and took the power down the throughout the whole area for a little while until it was restored. There was a delay. Yeah. And then in they started our intro. And you know, we had a certain amount of time to play you know, we played within our bracket. And I got get out of there. I came off stage change clothes. I got him a motorcycle and rode back toward Atlanta made it out at into like Little Rock Arkansas crashed out for a while. And then got up and wrote on into Atlanta when I got back to Lanta row crew said the guy was just trashed I guess he was like just having a on a binge or something and was blaming us because his everything had gotten pushed back. And you know, and and I guess my road crews way upset about him saying negative stuff and everything. But I mean, I hear I hear I guess he he had he's got some maybe got some issues drinking or something. I don't know. I don't even know if you put it if you asked me to point about line about you're talking about, but but again, as I just I from what I heard, and you know, what people tell me, I think he was just having a bad night with drinking and stuff. So I just kinda wrote it off his somebody 'cause I've had nights where we're where the the the the alcohol got the dark side of just kinda wrote it off his bless, his heart. You know? So you you you take them high wrote on it in your opinion. What you did you didn't do anything wrong. You played within the bracket a time. You were told the play. We got you. You were there. What the hell did I do when out there and play got, you know, got out and their, thanks. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, and speaking drink and real quick, how's your bourbon doing, man? The Burston great. I mean, we just released a new single barrel, Tennessee, whiskey, and and I mean is doing really great in select states with the regular bourbon and Honey bourbon spice permanence where you know. Well, over hundred also hundred thirty thousand cases move now about list and five years doing great minutes. You know, it's something I'm proud of. And we're enjoying doing it. And and you know, I'm up here in Sturges full throttle saloon right now, we're getting ready for getting ready for the big seventy seven annual surgeon motorcycle rally. Starting August fourth. And and it's gonna be a great year. We can tell already just gonna be coming. Great. We got Olympic saw swimming pool. We've got a grocery store we've got three hundred cabins the hookups. It's just I mean, and then the full throttle sluice it right in the middle of all of you know, said with the largest Asian all of South Dakota. And you go to happy Hoyle camp Graham PAP y h e l campground dot com and check out the checkout. If you check out the grounds and right at the base of beautiful mountain. So. Well, tell you what man I've agenda tell you this. But I'm going to be out there for like a day and a half working on a project and all Fillion. But I'll definitely look you up because I'm actually going to be now you're playing jackal actually plays at the full throttle on August, tenth and. If you need something let me know, I think I'm set, but I should be there that day. So we might be getting a little gasoline and sawdust going again, so. So. Have you mankind? The door is always open phones say come on. All right. And then everybody checkout jackal dot com. Find out the dates you've got shows running through August-September. You even got some November and December dates already announced on the schedule throughout the rest of the year. Always a great time. When you go see this band play live and a killer band and killer front man in in Jesse James depre-. Congratulations on twenty five years, man. Really, really cool. And it's good to see a ban after all those years still doing it. So well, so congrats. Thanks. You know, carrying the flag just in general for rock, and definitely for, you know, for always, you know, being out and being part of what we do. So thank you so much. Thanks. Let me spread to what about the check. Check out the jackal twenty five CD, folks. And we'll see next week here. Check out Jack dot com for the tour dates rock me Roma Jack meal, truck nations, still alive and killing. Thank you, brother. See soon always fun to have Jesse in. I'm looking forward to seeing him jackal at Rockland where they really really excel and have some great fans out there for them should be a lot of fun with them and all the band's memorial weekend looking forward to hosting my eleventh rock la- Homa year eleven in twenty nineteen. Can't wait see you all in prior. And thanks Jesse for dropping by the New York City Sirius XM studios, again, all the shows are on the interviews here on the podcast originate from my radio shows on Sirius XM be sure to listen to them Monday through Friday, two to four pm eastern time channel one oh six volume. That's where you'll catch me live the replay every night nine to eleven pm eastern and on demand anytime you want and the interview just heard actually came from a bonus show. I do most Mondays on Sirius XM channel thirty nine checkout. Jesse all over the place touring with his band, jackal checkout his bourbon, he gave me a couple bottles as you heard. 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154 - The Outlaw Jesse James and the James-Younger Gang

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

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154 - The Outlaw Jesse James and the James-Younger Gang

"Jesse james was one of the most infamous bank and train robbers in the history of the american west the image of the outlaw narrowly escaping capture after another brazen banker train robbery the guns blazing saddles topic galloping getaway steed is an iconic image of the american old west james lee members of the james younger gang of outlaws men men involved in numerous hold-ups left far too many men dead does he robbed and killed for the entirety of his life and he made a lot of enemies and also gathered a lot of admirers during along criminal run robert pinkerton son of allan pinkerton founder of america's first private detective agency not ended mirer when speaking to a reporter reporter for the richmond democrat on november twentieth eighteen seventy nine he said i consider jesse james the worst man without any exception in america he is utterly devoid of fear and has no compunction about cold blooded murder then he has about eating his breakfast. The editor of the lexin lexington kentucky's questionably named nineteenth century paper the weekly caucasian wrote about jesse and his fellow gang members and nothing but glowing terms in an article written on october tober seventeenth eighteen seventy four all the annals of romantic crime furnish no parallel to the exploits of missouri's bold rovers since ishmail hung out his shingle thirty-seven centuries ago in the desert of eden as a dashing untameable boss brig and they have been unsurpassed. They've laid aladdin in the a shade and snuffed out all his marvel hatching lamps. They've eclipse the wildest wonders of the arabian nights and rendered commonplace the most incredible achievements of the said did they've made the tales of the crusaders and the buccaneers stale nursery crooning achilles and hector barabbas rob roy dick tarpon in sixteen in string jack dwindle to ordinary marauders beside them john edwards editor of the sa- dahlia democrat also seemed to have a lot of love for jesse she james writing the following for james april eighteen eighty two obituary we call them outlaw and he was but fate made him so when the war closed jesse james had no home hunted shot driven away a price upon his head. What else could the man do accept what he did. When he was hunted it turns savagely about an hunted his hunters summing up the legend jesse james decades after his death early and mid twentieth century american poet carl sandburg said jesse james is the only american who has classical who is to this country. What robin hood is to england whose exploits are so close to the mythical. James was a hero to some and a cold blooded murderer thief to others his divided legacy reflected the divided time and place he lived in jesse was born in missouri a state far more culturally split than most in the years leading up to during immediately following the civil war officially missouri fought for the union but culturally it was a southern dixie state through and through missouri was a border state tucked into the mid west sharing traits of all the regions around it. The the industrial most of the northeast the pioneer self-sustaining family farms the north west and the slaveholding plantation traditions of the south seventy five percent of missouri's population nation was from the south or from other border states comprised of people primarily from the south jesse's own family heritage with southern clay county where he was born and raised was especially southern culture in missouri as a whole slaves accounted for only ten percent of the state population but in clay county they constituted twenty five percent percents missouri was a very atypical union ally. The state entered the union in eighteen twenty. One is a slave state following the missouri compromise of eighteen twenty twenty when congress agreed that slavery would be legal an all louisiana purchase territory north of the thirty six degrees thirty foot line of latitude except upped missouri missouri was a northern state with a culture that was largely pro confederate and pro slavery and when the civil war broke out much of missouri went to battle with itself itself and james family as confederate sympathizers ended up on the losing side during the civil war james older brother frank fought on behalf of the confederate with the band of guerrillas willis making him an outlaw since he was legally required to fight on behalf of the union and towards the end of the war jesse joined his brother became a wanted man himself. The first criminal acts of jesse james were undoubtedly political. He was fighting for the south in a northern state. It was the war that initially made him outlaw and when the war was over and he began to rob trains and banks confederate sympathizers continued to see jesse's ex not as criminal exploits but his acts of political defiance he was seen as fighting the union oppression shirow southern culture he was a hero his robberies and murders played a part in what was perceived as a confederate effort to achieve post wartime political goals by violent means however whoever had jesse james existed a century later he would have simply been called an anti-american domestic terrorist and his crimes continue to get harder and harder to rationalize as any sort of revolutionary and it got easier to see him as a ruthless killer and a thief exploiting pro confederate sympathies for his own personal financial gains were his motivations political or did he kill robin murad just to make a quick buck and spread his growing infamy. 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Thanks so much for showing up to the stand up shows more and more time sticker showing up seems like you guys have been loving the new material to having a lot of fun onstage and now it's time to have a lot of fun right here. Let's have some fun here you guys. Hey bud one. Let's do it. Let's get the topic time. Yeah jesse woodson james one of the best remembered and most exaggerated characters of the old west. His tail is a story of a man who grew up without a father got really good at killing and guerrilla warfare became became a famous outlaw even married and had kids with his first cousin before meeting his own violent yup more cousin fucking suck incest in history. Go together like <hes> <hes> well like first cousin pizzas and i guess jesse james was seen by some as a heroic robin hood like figure legends persist to this dave is berry return treasures coded diaries and treasure maps both jesse in his older brother frank. I learned to kill during civil war more on that in a bit jesse james also at at the center of a number of conspiracy theories that linked him with secret societies like the freemasons in a pro slavery group called the knights of the golden circle conspiracy theorists include jesse james alleged great great grandson who has claimed to have extensively researched written and spoken about his family's crazy history for more than twenty years. We'll get into the conspiracies towards the ended this episode before we get into today's shoot 'em up. Robin reid away timeline deal detail on the crimes that may jesse famous. Let's take a look at some of the context that helped form his life life. We'll start of course with his start. A jesse woodson james born in clay county missouri on september fifth eighteen forty seven now legend has it that he shot his way out of his mother's uterus with colt walker six shot revolver came out with the bandanna hiding his face cowboy hat on his head thick beard stubble on his face. Not only could he walk birth. He could write a dog like a horse. That's exactly what he did. He wrote the family sheepdog in town and killed two men in a saloon robbery. Within thirty minutes of taking his own first breath of air port himself glass of whisky swelled at one gulp and said his first words fuck milk records will do just fine yeah yeah now to be clear. That is a real jesse james legend. It just happens to be one that. I just made up. No one else cares about jesse was the son of kentucky natives twenty two year olds carell james and her husband twenty-nine year old robert james aka bobber james well educated a man who received a masters of arts graduate with honors from georgetown college. That's not georgetown university lesser-known georgetown but his georgetown he went on to be a baptist minister wealthy ham farmer. That's right hint pla- bobber getting high as fuck on the james farm introduced young jesse to reggae taught him how to hacky sack showed him how to use water bong like a champion now hampton marijuana look the same but doesn't doesn't have nearly enough skews me t._h._c. to get your high bummer. Jesse would have grown up harvesting smokes. We'd probably would have lived longer had a happy life. Robert barrel james migrated missouri after visiting sarah's mother and stepfather who already lived there. They liked to fertile countryside. I saw the agricultural potential the rich farmland once in missouri after briefly living with relatives parents robert invested in two hundred and twenty five acre farm in clay county missouri and eventually owned a reported six slaves. Yes <hes> the james were slave owners and i know that obviously can be a you know a huge turn off and i'm not saints shouldn't be for a lot of listeners just remember. This happened a long time ago. When people grew up and essentially didn't really know anything different. I mean sure in that sense even in the times ethically not good not not good to do that but if we cut out people who were around that kind of culture well we lose. A lot of very interesting sucks fox so just want a little disclaimer. I know yes not good again. Longtime ago very different culture as you mentioned already jesse was born into the world to older brother named alexandra franklin james better frank who've been born four years prior to jesse frankly jesse's partner in crime for the rest of jesse's days two years after jesse was born born jesse sister susan levin new james was born on november twenty fifth eighteen forty nine for the first few years jesse's lives james kids by all accounts lived a prosperous farm life and their dad fucked everything up by heading further west the reverend robert james was asked to serve as a chaplain on a wagon train heading to california during the gold rush and he decided to leave his young family forever. His daughter was just a few months old. In search of gold he would claim somewhat that he was going to save souls but the contemporaries contemporaries around him seem to think that he got the big dollar signs in his eyes and thought he could just make a fortune out there little jessie two years old wrapped his tiny arms around his father's like begged him not to go would go he did and then a year later he was dead. He made it all the way to california but then on august eighteenth eighteen fifty he died of cholera and plas reveal california came down with the bad case of the devils but flu and the next thing you know macgill's pop blues boho clean off used and seconds. That's little donner party sucked doc joke shown backup in this tale. If you're a new listener don't worry. You probably can't blow off your butthole. If you come down with cholera rob's death left his family and financial shambles than a year the congregation congregation the deceased reverend robert used to preach to was taking the collection plate. <hes> you know past inflation plan on behalf of his now destitute family before robert headed west he borrowed money money from locals also pledged money to fund william jewell college college. He helped open at eight hundred forty nine. A college still exists today. In liberty missouri little small liberal arts college college about eight hundred students actors creditors coming to collect from his widow zelda and when her cash was gone many possessions were sold at a series of auction a state dates or a state auction skews me to <hes> get cash needed to live on a sounds heartless but other missourians hurting for money to at this time. The whole area was going through a the regional economic crisis. Thank you farms being abandoned before the crops were harvested in the wake of ruthless cholera and measles outbreaks in eighteen forty nine in eighteen fifty sure here is nice not having those outbreaks now. It's pretty nice. Thanks doctors. Thanks desperate now. Twenty five year old zarella entered a marriage of convenience on timber thirtieth eighteen fifty two. She had a fifty year old. <hes> widowed and wealthy farmer who lived two miles away gross <hes> a fifty two year old. I believe his is fifty my notes here but my memory says fifty she married a dude named benjamin sims who loved his hot young wife. Maybe loved his bit strong lusted. He lusted a woman half his age. Maybe a little less than half is eight also hated her kids. So in giralda moved into his home. She had to leave nine year old. Frank five-year-old jesse league not quite three year old susan with some friends who took over and ran what was left of her farm. Can you imagine imagine like that kind of made. We need to get married to the financial. Stay afloat and then you're you know soon to be husband is like all right you but not the kids. What a fucking asshole. There's listen sugar. Marya sure she would only if you did chose whining booker picking wilbur snappers again. How do you tell the kids take good news. Money problems are over. Get married to wealthy farmer two miles away a great big house butlers and maids cooks the finest food big yard lots of shade room to roam batons that is you can't come. He doesn't get kanye to no one's surprise. The marriage didn't last long israel the left benjamin within a year to return to her kids. I can only imagine the fights they had had during that marriage time period again south lebanon by michigan you brats want tears and my supper made me pow roast seeing sing me happy song woman wanna marry crybaby. I would've actually married a baby. Lord knows i considered it twenty five year old lady bitter bitter right for me to want to stick metal parts. Benjamin died just a few months after israel left him on january second eighteen fifty four in a horse accident saranda according to what friends of hers would say years later was overjoyed derailed away little time and had a had one more estate auction to settle the last of her debts was able to keep most of her land wasteful time getting back on her feet and then she married her third and final husband dr archie reuben samuel on september twenty fifth eighteen fifty-five r._t. Samuels was twenty seven at the time she was thirty thirty a little more evenly mashed his time upon their marriage her request he gave up doctrine whiskey and he worked at the james farm he helped grow tobacco tobacco also adopted susan jesse and frank and then they'd have four more children together even signed a prenuptial agreement guaranteed zarella ownership of the farm and their slaves after after his death something extremely uncommon if not entirely unheard of for a man to do at that time in that place a reporter comma decade archie was under zelda's dominion and now numerous contemporary said things like you know she wore the pants kind of thing <hes> after some early childhood unsteadiness with his father's death and then being briefly abandoned during his mother's other second marriage things seemed to settle down for young jesse now eight years old after his mother's third marriage and jesse might have grown up to be a missouri farmer himself but then the civil war showed up and changed everything for everyone the war would drag his older brother frank james into a life of fighting and then jesse would soon follow. Let's take a quick beak. Quick beak aac do that quick peek jesse's older brother frank the forgotten james brother who would also be one of the leaders of the infamous james younger gang franklin james lesser-known own older brother of the legend was born clay county missouri as well over four years before jesse january tenth eighteen forty three as a child young jesse <hes> excuse give me young <hes> frank showed interest in his late father's sizable library especially the works of william shakespeare franks profound love shakespeare it would inspire him to carry copies of the barge is plays in his saddlebags years later while being pursued by union soldiers and later law officers cute also memorize lines and recite them to other bandits but he's pretty funny funny image onto dusty cowboy sitting around a campfire hideout after a heist and frank <hes> maybe after a couple couple of drinks stands out. This is daegu chassis before me handled for my hand. Come let me clutch the half the not now yet. I see the still are not fatal. Vision sensible feeling asked who sat or dow but a dagger of the mind false creation proceeding from the heat the press brian. I see the yet informers. Palpable is this which now i draw tarshi blown by frank. We don't care air continental about nobility shakespeare. Dan l. frank received much better education. Most rural missouri farm kids at the time. James fame is only a mile for the somerset schooled. Frank contended regularly until he was eighteen long. That's old to be to be school kid at that time. Frank reportedly wanted to become a teacher was an avid learner and and then frank was going to attend william jewell college continues education studied the school. His father helped establish but instead. The war happened civil war in the u._s. Beginning eighteen sixty one after for decades of simmering tensions between northern southern states over slavery state's rights and westward expansion jesse james just barely a teenager only thirteen when the war broke out too young to fight initially frank was eighteen though and when the war got going the james farm had slaves james stanley felt that slavery was necessary to keep their farms their livelihood going and so frank frank found himself in a tricky spot of being expected to fight for the north whose victory could spell financial ruin for his slave owning family so now that we have a solid understanding any other circumstances that would pull jesse into his future criminal ways. Let's examine jesse's entry into his outlaw life in today's time. I'm so timeline right after a quick word from sponsor time. Suck is brought to you again today. By the belle gunness norwegian massage assange parlor let bill put her murderous upper body strength to use revenue down wall. 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When you had to go barber i moved shave and you hope you didn't cut your throat raft eighteen sixty and today's times halftime shrp on those boots soldier where marching down a time sucker timelines in november of eighteen sixty anti-slavery advocate abraham lincoln is elected president and the south not happy lincoln only received forty percent of the popular vote one fifty nine percent of the electoral college votes but he wasn't even on the ballot in some places in the deep south the following in months south carolina becomes the first state to succeed from the union in their declaration for secession they state the north have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery they have encouraged encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes. The next month january eighteen sixty one florida than alabama georgia mississippi and then louisiana secede it has declaration ration- of secession georgia states for the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non slaveholding confederate states with reference to the subject of african slavery they have endeavoured to weaken our security to disturb our domestic peace and tranquility and persistently refused to comply with their expressed constitutional obligations to us in reference to that property and by the use of their power in the federal government have striven to deprive us of an equal enjoyment of the common territories of the republic then on january twenty ninth kansas becomes a thirty four state enters the union as a free state lot of people in missouri and in particular county get real anxious there now surrounded on on three sides by states opposed to slavery the james family washing all of these developments very closely. They feel like the union is closed in on them to take their farm. In february eighteen sixty one texas secedes jefferson davis inaugurated as president of the confederacy at the missouri state convention missouri votes to remain in the union despite many in missouri wanting in to join the southern coast many including the james family on april twelfth eighteen sixty one the civil war begins with the battle of fort sumner and then a lot happens in missouri in the the coming weeks on may tenth volunteer union army regiment led by union brigadier general nathan nathaniel lyon captures a unit of secessionist at camp jackson outside of saint louis louis while marching the confederate guerilla soldiers into town to parole them hostile pro secessionist crowds gather a shot is accidentally fired linesmen ended up firing firing into the mob killing twenty-eight civilians several days of rioting follow martial law is then declared and union troops are dispatched into the city to calm things down and many missourians are pissed union soldiers soldiers. Not from missouri have been sent to control them. A renegade confederate government is quickly the established and is led by current missouri governor clairborne fox jackson and we're fucking great name by the way i middle last name all solid clairborne clairborne fuck yeah fox jackson strongest names of course he was governor. You have way better odds become governor. If your name is clairborne fox jackson than you do if you're saddled with the name like flappy weasel sour patch. No one takes flappy sour patch seriously. No one trusts the weasel anyway. Forum is always through. Somebody named that anyway former missouri governor sterling price is put in charge of the missouri state guard are pro confederate state militia union general yeah general lyon takes over the state capital in jefferson city pushes through legislation to kick out governor jackson and and replaces him with the pro union governor and then pro confederate general prize goes to battle against jim line that things are happen real fast lot of inner turmoil and in the midst of all this in may may eighteen sixty one frank james joins the confederate army goes to battle for general sterling price and the destiny of his family is now changed forever in the summer of eighteen sixty one the union and the confederacy struggled for control of missouri brigadier general nathaniel lines army of the west camped at springfield missouri with confederate troops under the command of brigadier general general ben mcculloch and major general william price bass approaching again. You know frank james one of those troops august night. Both sides formulated plans to attack the other about five five a._m. On the tens line in two columns commanded by himself and colonel franz sigel attacks confederates on wilson's creek about twelve miles southwest springfield rebel cavalry. Sorry received the first blow and fell back from bloody. Hill confederate forces soon rushed up stabiliser positions to confederate attacking forces three times a day but failed to break through the union line and then general lion killed during the battle major samuel d sturgis replaced him meanwhile the confederates route singles column south of skaggs branch ranch following the third confederate attack which ended at eleven a._m. The union forces withdrew. The confederates had won the confederate victory with a shot of adrenaline for southern sympathizers. This was in missouri served as a springboard for bold thrust north to carry carry price and his missouri state guard as far as lexington and late october. A convention was convened by governor clairborne fox fucking jackson and passed an ordinance weasel. Oh weasel sour patch game but he did come to his meeting. They come well. You guys fuck. Shut the fuck up flappy. No one's coming to your convention. Conventions convened by governor claiborne fox jackson they passed an ordinance of secession the battle of wilson's oh since creek had given the confederates control of southwestern missouri missouri found itself now in an odd place of having to governments essentially each pledging allegiance to different sides of the civil war. The southern government recognized missouri or at least part of missouri is being the twelfth state of the confederacy and the twelve star on the confederate flag did represent missouri however the union army would soon regain much much the state and pushed the confederate government into exile while in the missouri state guard frank james serving the battle of lexington where an estimated one thousand seven hundred seventy four union troops lost their lives lives after this victory franks followed price as far as springfield then he got sick then get left behind when price even though he'd won the victory lexington abandoned the entire area to union forces assist frank was captured and forced to take an oath of loyalty to the united states union years later when frank visited springfield as an official starter for the horse races at the annual ozarks. I am fire fair. He granted an interview to a local reporter and it appeared in the springfield missouri republican september twenty seven eight hundred ninety eight and he said how well remember that old courthouse and good 'cause i have to remember it an eighteen sixty two hours regular enlisted with general price in confederate army and was with him and springfield took sick with pneumonia while in the city was placed in that old courthouse price retreated in curtis. The yankee general took possession of the town as the yankees marched by the courthouse house twelve abreast. I looked out the window and i thought i would not have any comrades. Soon is there were enough yankees and curtis army to kill every revel in the south in six week's time i was able to be about but was prisoner and could not leave the courthouse then commands to plan how to escape and one not managed to slip through the rear of the building and and crawled out a window into the alley are found a yankee officers horse which i mounted a wanted to join my regiment but was cut off from price and knew that the chances were greatly against me if i attempted to get pass the yankees who are between me and press so i started north one evening road into cointreau camp on this side of the missouri river. I remain with quantrill for some. I'm tom and finally became. One of his regulars stayed with him. I consider cointreau. The greatest guerrilla leader founded the yankees are a fought the yankees for ears and the whole world for fifteen years a surrendered to governor chris patten crittenden not critter us. We're a surrender to governor crittenden in eighteen eighty two and was glad to lay down my guns. I wish his name was governor. Critter become a fan. Let's talk about quantum wells raiders now the group that would bring jesse james into the outlaw life the group that frank joined right after he left that courthouse july eighteen sixty two frank joins william clark larque quantrill raiders quantrill raiders were group of approximately two hundred men dedicated to southern the southern cause and by the summer of eighteen sixty to the union army had regained gain control of almost all the missouri by august would have no regular confederate presence missouri's confederate government banished into exile went down to texas but the fighting in missouri didn't stop instead of official confederate soldiers groups of men primarily slave owners with southern sympathies would band together into unit of guerrilla fighters and the most famous of these units was quantrill raiders led by william clarke quantrill a man who lived all over the place in utah texas ohio kansas missouri a man with southern sympathies who fought right alongside frank james for general price quantrill and his men ambushed union patrols they ambush supply convoys sees male occasionally struck towns on either side of the kansas missouri border and cointreau madman didn't attack soldiers they directed much of their efforts against pro union civilians attempting to drive them out of the area cointreau. Guerrillas attacked hacked jay hawkers their union abolitionist guerrilla fighting equivalents union militia members and regular old farmers. They felt were too loyal to northern aggression. The the confederate congress never formally acknowledged the union viewed them as nothing but criminals they certainly weren't robin hood's merry men and neither other groups jayhawker. Yes the jay hawkers freed slaves but they also so ruthlessly attacked confederate families burning down their farms stealing their livestock in some cases attacking and killing unarmed men women and children. The civil war was a dirty war and parts of missouri had practically descended into anarchy at this time while some of their plunder was sent to the south. Most of the plunder cointreau raiders gather was kept by the writers themselves offs and the band of these raiders included outlaws thomas coleman younger and also jim comments and apparently jim collins is one of my great great great not sure how many more greats rates ankles for real at least according to my regular uncle phil comments victim genealogy research talk about jubilee with more later many of the men who later ride ride with jesse james and his gang i met each other in quantum raiders contreras medication with the regular confederate army fighting in battles as the battle of prairie grove arkansas december of eighteen sixty two to on august twenty first eighteen sixty three quantrill led a massacre of lawrence kansas in lawrence kansas in the early morning hours his raiders tour through the free state town on robbed two banks lou other buildings and then set basically the entire town on fire and they killed between one hundred fifty. One hundred eighty men boys many of them on armed frank james was a member of the raiders was part of this barbaric attacked. There is some doubt as to whether jessie was involved however he was said to have bragged about being evolved later. Sources sources are murky when it comes to pinpointing the exact time jesse james joined the raiders. It seems as if he joined them sometime in either july or august eighteen sixty three in late eighteen sixty three an incident occurred that would feel jesse's hatred of for the union for the rest of his life a party of union soldiers invaded jesse's mother's and stepfather's farm in late eighteen sixty three looking for information about the location of quantum wells camp jesse just fifteen at the time was questioned than horsewhipped when he refused to answer the soldiers questions and then union soldiers roughed his mother zarella up and then jesse stepfather doctor samuel who also denied knowing where the raiders camp was located was dragged from his house rope was thrown around his neck back and he was repeatedly hang from a tree in the yard somehow the doctor managed to survive this interrogation and torture but it was never the same afterwards suffering from major head trauma. Tom and all this you know really of course bothers. Jesse and jesse is not a big fan of the union. It wasn't a fan before really not a fan. Now in eighteen eighteen sixty four young jesse is shot in the chest while trying to steal a saddle from pro union farmer. It would not be the last time he gets shot in the chest and live his legend gend begins also eighteen sixty four character named bloody bill anderson enters jesse's life jesse would soon join bloody bill anderson guerrilla forces wild wild time and place to be living in. I mean just talk about that for a second. Can you imagine what life in clay county missouri was like this time. You're surrounded by the civil war. Young men are being conscripted dipped into the union army while other men from the same town. Sometimes from the same family run out to fight for the confederates outside of the regular union and confederate armies have all these different malicious springing up no matter what side you're on. You're having to defend your farms livestock businesses and lives from someone. You don't get to abstain you. Don't get to be neutral unless you wanna get attacked in plunder from both sides. If you're a slave owner you either have to renounce your family's way of life entirely in fight for the union or become an outlaw and fight for the south with jesse james. You're sixteen eighteen years old the age of a high school sophomore you're hanging around dudes like bloody fucking bill of course jesse james became and there were all kinds of allies this time do i should i should point that out as well from the end of the civil war to the hour of james death various governors missouri proclaimed rewards for the capture of criminals more than three hundred times. Only a four of those proclamations would be jesting his brother frank. There were hundreds of other outlaws along with hundreds and hundreds more who failed to attract gubernatorial attention men who committed murders broke jails rob stage coaches banks and trains even killed a u._s. marshall and burned a county courthouse jesse. James is one of the few you name. It lasted until today but he was phenomenally crazy crazy times. I can't imagine that kind of life. I'll give back this bloody. Bill fucker man jesse went to fight for and with eighteen sixty four william blood he was born late eighteen thirty s grew up missouri moved to kansas in late eighteen fifty s arriving arriving to settle on his father's land claim east council grove anderson was sued immersed and bitter fight over slavery the gave the area the nickname bleeding kansas again insane meantime to be live there before the civil war he traffic stolen horses escorted wagon trains along the santa fe trail. When the war broke out anderson joined the anti-slavery pro pro union band of guerrillas that i mentioned earlier known as the jay hawkers and then he soon switched sides and joined a band of pro confederates called bush-whackers and this is all starting to sound what these names like like like some kind of w._w._e. Tag team wrestling match get ready to locate locate team. We have the j. hoppers making their way to the ring these guys love white and raiding burning down barnes and they hate slavery very popular bumped african american wrestling fans all so making our way to the ring we bushwacker very pro slavery loving extremely unpopular missouri african-american wrapping fans flat-screen in in the partisan warfare kansas and missouri. These groups were often mortenson robbery looting personal gain than the advancement of political cause us and that's why these guys will sometimes ride with one group in bouncy their site some members willing to die for the anti-slavery or pro slavery 'cause many if not most routes exploiting the chaos most of the time to make some quick money with whoever they thought was the best band to kinda ride with so how did bloody bill anderson get drawn into guerrilla fight and hopefully enjoyed that little thing that was very refund. I was very fun to snap into for second. <hes> the war drew in bill anderson just like he <hes> you know the war withdrawing the james brothers he has family believing in council grove now <hes> ah at the start of the war after cointreau raiders rated aubrey kansas on march seventh eighteen sixty two kansas jayhawks came to investigate southern sympathizers living nearby were sought out and accused of eighteen quantrill raiders williamson's father and uncle were named among the simpsons died the sympathizers when the jayhawker company arrived at the anderson far in march eleventh williams his younger brother. Jim were delivering fifteen had cattle to the u._s. Commissary agent at fort leavenworth and when the brothers returned to their family farm they found their father and uncle dead they'd been hanged wind in retaliation also the family farm had been burned to the ground and all their possessions stolen so pretty bad day for billy bloody bill and his brother jim track down the man in charge of hanging their dad and gunned down and then bill became the head of a local band of confederate guerrillas and his activities cast a shadow suspicion over the rest of his family than a union commander mandalay general thomas ewing arrested several wives and sisters and some of the members of quantrill raiders. We'll anderson commanded his own band of men he was he often collaborated with cointreau larger force as a result the group ewing arrest including three of anderson's sisters who are now imprisoned in temporary union jail in kansas city missouri and then on august fourteenth eighty it takes three this jail collapses and kills one of anderson's sisters along with several of the women quantrill and bill fucking pissed they assembled more than four hundred hundred men to exact revenge against the abolitionist community of lawrence kansas jayhawker president on august twenty first band killed at least one hundred fifty resumes burned down much to town and anderson personally was credited with fourteen murders that day gentlemen mm-hmm and tonight. We have a single elimination cage. Match the jayhawker the raiders bodybuilding the bushwacker all the sand lawrence kansas left it already to after this massacre anderson went to texas that winter mary return to missouri eighteen sixty four with a band of about fifty fighters jesse james joined him and then he embarked on a summer violence leading his group on a campaign to kill hundreds possibly get the you know the name bloody. Bill is <hes> yeah. It's some bad should happen to his family and he <hes> you know enacted. Some revenge big time on september twenty seventh eighteen sixty four bloody bill led a raid on centralia missouri where a gang of more more than one hundred guerrillas robbed the passengers of incoming train twenty four unarmed a wounded union soldiers were dragged from the train by the frenzied ruffians and murdered in cold blood. Ken bloody bill didn't fuck around the band of guerrillas followed by an experienced federal infantry about three miles south of centralia. The union forces were bushwack by the band and were nearly annihilated over over one hundred and twenty federal troops were killed. Only three of the guerrilla fighters were reported to have been killed in this battle. Both frank and jesse were part of this battle. Jesse is said to have killed union major a._b. Abby johnson and is credited with taking the lives of seven other men this day alone unclear a franken jesse took part in the massacre of unarmed union soldiers earlier in the day on october twenty six bloody bills guerrillas ambushed by union soldiers independence missouri. Several guerrillas were killed. Bill anderson himself is killed decapitated. <hes> jesse james and a few other guerrillas escaped the dead body of bloody bill. The blood drenched savage as he referred to by some pro union. Journalists was placed on public display before they cut his head off. Also anderson kept a rope to record his killings and there were reportedly fifty four knots found on the rope. The time is death. You can find picture taken of his body several hours after he was killed online if you do enjoy nightmares and he's only twenty three years old when he died and yeah and that is how you get a nickname bloody bill after death frank james follows quantrill and his raiders in kentucky jesse takes off with archie clement oney bills to tenants bushwalker known to be especially violent silence very bloody man himself after a winter raid an ambush late eighteen sixty four early eighteen sixty five quantrill raiders ambush themselves by union soldiers james wakefield's farm arm in kentucky on may tenth eighteen sixty five were many are killed and captured a cointreau himself shot twice paralyzed from the chest down. He soon dies from his wounds. In a military hospital the following month one of the captured guerrillas jim younger who recently joined the guerrillas future member of the james younger gang frank james revised ambush avoid capture. Jim younger captured yet but you know we're again you know become free and again joined that gang later for some more abandoning by the spring of eighteen sixty five all the principal confederate armies have now surrendered and when union cavalry captures the fleeing confederate president jefferson davis <hes> may tenth eighteen sixty five georgia resistance collapses and the war is is now over for for most in may of eighteen sixty five seventeen year old jessie rides in missouri carrying a white flag. He's ready to surrender. He's ready to be done with the war but the union troops he's riding towards are interested in accepting his surrender to this day. They opened fire. He gets shot in the chest for the second time barely survives crawling away to safety his legend and now grows further as does his hatred of the union. He'll make them pay and he'll never try surrendering again by early. February of eighteen sixty six now eighteen year old jesse has healed up and jesse and frank james meet with cole younger to form that gang the james younger gang and plan their first bank robbery. The war is over but these guys are far from done with fighting the jesse james. The james younger gang is fucking here sunday sunday sunday liberty missouri. The james younger gang takes on anyone standing in between them and the clay county savings bank. We'll sell you the whole seat but you'll only need the edge on february thirteenth eighteenth eighteen sixty six over ten members of the james younger gang robbed the clay county savings bank in liberty missouri of as much as sixty two thousand dollars a fortune at the time equivalent to over a million dollars today. This robbery was the first armed daytime peacetime robert in u._s. History the james younger gang pioneer the wild west outlaw bank hold up. I didn't know that before this suck tuck sadly a seventeen year old innocent bystander is a shot and killed accidentally during the robbery on june seven june thirteenth eight hundred sixty six james brothers helped bus. There's two other former members of quantrill raiders out of prison and independence missouri someone from gang kills the jailer henry bugler in order to do so on october thirtieth eighteen sixty six five members of the james younger gang robbed the alexander mitchell and co bank in lexington missouri making out with over two thousand dollars. No one's injured this time. Franken jesse said you impart this robberies. Well semper sixteenth. James younger gang loses one of their tough remember. This little story provides a nice little peek into the type of dudes who inhabited the world digest. Yes live in the type of people his orbit tough motherfuckers for the few previous month archie clement former lieutenant of bloody bill anderson when he was a riding with james younger anger gang he was leading bushwacker voter intimidation campaigns in missouri now that the war was over politically motivated confederate band is focused on the elections of eighteen sixty six it everything they could to make sure the pro union politicians didn't win any of these elections archie and his band of at times well over one hundred men were keeping union republicans from voting at various polls on election day. The governor missouri sent in some militia led by major bacon montgomery to stop bill and his men in the little town of lexington next in missouri and yes. I really was bacon. I'd looked at up couple sources verify it really bacon. I'm sure he was teased. More than a few times growing up l. bacon old thick slice. Oh maple cured ran clement and his men out of town but then clinton has been returned on december thirteenth montgomery just back to cement men to arrest archie who had went to the city hotel bar for a drink. Aren't you is wanted for the february. Thirteenth james younger gang liberty bank hold up the majors men find signed little archie drinking with an old friend call him out to surrender and clements who was only twenty years old was basically nope thaw look that shit shit draws his revolver star shooting wild gunfight ensues spike in shot in the chest archie manages to make it outside leaps onto his horse and then we'll riding down the street. A soldier <unk> from a militia detachment stayed into <hes> stationed up on the courthouse shoots him again and knocks him right off the horse and he's still alive when montgomery runs up to archie who was badly busted is it up from the fall clearly died from his gunshot wounds. They find him trying to cock his revolver with his teeth so he can keep shooting at him. Legend has it. One of the soldiers soldiers asked him or just said to him arch. You are dying. What do you want me to do with you and clements allegedly responded with i've done what i i always said. I would do die before i surrender and then he did die. Major montgomery ole smoked homestyle bacon himself later later later stated when recalling clements final moments. I've never met better grit on the face of the earth. I mean these outlaws. Whether you agree with their tactics or not you can hand disagree with the fact they were tough as fucking nails march second eighteen sixty seven james younger gang robs judge john mccain banking house of savannah missouri on may twenty second eighteen sixty seventy rob again with twelve members of time the james younger gang makes off with four thousand bucks from the using watson bank of richmond missouri three three men shot and killed in this robbery and then on march twentieth eighteen sixty eight the gang really pisses off nimrod the gang history nimrod long banking co russellville kentucky and takes off approximately fourteen thousand dollars. One person's wounded. No fatalities nimrod is furious. December seven eight hundred sixty nine the james younger gang <hes> holds up the davies county savings bank of gallatin missouri killing cashier captain john w sheets wounding clerk william mcdowell is he runs for the door and they make off with seven hundred bucks jesse james himself believed to have shot and killed captain john sheets mistakenly believing him to be samuel peacocks the militia officer who would kill bloody bill anderson a three thousand dollar reward offered for their capture. This robbery jesse's face but on some wanna posters also gets tim an unofficial p._r. Agent started in late eighteen sixty nine. John newman edwards massively contributes to the legend of jesse james gang by writing glorifying articles goals and dime novels about guys in fact we actually much of our romanticized lord jesse james and the james younger gang to edward. He's a fellow of the wrote a glowing obituary. I mentioned i should start the episode so let let's meet for secular born eighteen thirty nine edward was a native virginian who came to missouri in mid eighteen fifties to work as a newspaper printer he became a hunting and fishing companion of a man named joseph shelby and when the war broke out and shoved went out to fight confederacy edwards served as his eight part of what may have drawn edwards suggests james in his violent exploits and hatred the north was that edwards had fought against north himself and bravely he had more horses shot out from under him than any other managed shelby's command when the war ended shelby and edwards refused to surrender crossing over into mexico living there in exile for almost two years like jesse he too had a very hard time accepting northern victory so she come as no surprise at after he returns to the u._s. Edwards tries to portray arm successionist as innocent victims of the north and heroes in eighteen sixty seven edwards returns to missouri works as a reporter suny takes on the important political role of editor for the recently launched kansas city times edwards composed glowing tribute to his former over bosco shelby and his men and tries to convince ex confederates to get back into politics when edwards here's the next bushwacker named jesse james who would use the bank robberies drying the advantage the death of guerrilla leader bloody bill anderson edwards is intrigued. He makes contact with the james brothers and six months after the robbery the first public statement from jesse she appears in the kansas city times in at the young outlaw asserts his innocence while simultaneously claiming that the unionists are the real criminals this jibes perfectly with edwards on beliefs and he begins a campaign to convince the world that jesse james has not a murderer and a thief but instead a valiant confederate hero a few years later in the run up to the election of eighteen seventy two edwards devote much of his editorial venom to denunciations of republican president ulysses grant corrupt tyrannical administration his words not mine and then when he hears jesse's during sunset robbery to kansas city industrial exposition. Which will you know mentioned later. Edward turns his attention back to the fierce rebel in a hyperbolic doc editorial called chivalry of crime edwards said bushwacker might have sat with arthur at the round table and called on readers to revere the robbers for the very very enormity of their alary soon edwards who became a leading figure in the confederate wing of the democratic party would be full myth making mode printing a letter from jesse in which he made the baseless claim that gang members robbed the rich and give to the poor acclaimed it no series james historian has ever agreed with an eighteen seventy three edwards write a twenty ed page newspaper supplement glorifying the james gang twenty pages devoted these guys he later tried to get a bill passed granting frank and jesse amnesty for their crimes as well canals house go back to eighteen sixty seven and the james younger gangs ongoing crimewave and by the way that does also speak the edward stuff to just culture the time too because as much as edward revered these guys he wouldn't be putting out these articles if a good portion of his audience didn't agree with them and enjoy what he was writing so yes. Let's head to so let's take a closer look at some of their members numbers and then get back into the gangs x. points <hes> experts. Many of the members of the james younger gang met during the civil war most of them road together with quantrill raiders. The younger brothers actually came from a pro pro union family until a band of union supporting guerillas known as the red legs so many guerrilla groups <hes> robbed murdered their father now would send them down a path that eventually intially lead into cointreau quantum gang bushwack motherfuckers were involved in a number of similarly deadly conflicts mostly missouri but also in surrounding states most of the gangs members is it fought the civil war battle tested men the gang consisted of course jesse and his brother frank as well as the younger brothers jim john bob and coal lot of outlaws the pop in and out coming along on for a few robberies here and bound now for some other bandon out lawn and maybe come back in for <unk> drain robbery or stagecoach robbery there they didn't get captured or killed some other other members included john jarratt who was jesse james brother-in-law clo- miller arthur mccoy matthew nelson charlie pitts bill chadwell of course my kin james robert commons aka. Hey jim collins aka windy jim for real about the winning nickname and jim isn't even the first western allah with the nickname of wendy. We've met here in the suck way back and suck twenty four th ability kids suck. We met frank windy kale. I man billy murder okay now. Let's meet the younger brothers. Thomas coleman cole younger was a confederate guerrilla. One one of the leaders of the james younger gang cole was the seven to fourteen children born to henry washington bersheeba laden frisco younger <hes> he joined william quantrill with guerrillas in eighteen sixty one when he was just seventeen took part in the lawrence kansas rate masturbating sixty three left some two hundred men and boys dead and the city ransacked and burned when he was just nineteen so young all these guys to eighteen sixty four he moved on to serve in the raider confederate army was soon made captain led his men into louisiana later in california where he remained until the end of the war or after the war coal continued to associate with his old war comrades in the midst of the tumultuous reconstruction and missouri out of his own embitterment over the outcome of the war he went full full outlaw taking leadership role the james younger gang he participated a number of bank train stagecoach robberies over his crime laden career though he would insist until the end of his life that he never robbed a single bank and his beloved missouri. I don't think through the next younger brother is jim. James jim younger four years younger than his brother. Cole was described as a quiet. Well mannered guy. More of a listener talker grew up to follow his brother. Kohl's footsteps and join quantrill confederate band of pretty much pirates on horses. Jim younger was later captured by union troops in the same ambush that resulted in william quantrill death. He was sent to alton prison illinois until the end of the war afterwards. He tried his hand. The number of jobs including starting a horse ranch served as deputy sheriff in dallas county texas eighteen seventy thousand seventy one and then two years later. He joined the james younger gang. I find interesting to in these wild west suck how many guys would be law enforcement officers and also outlaw gang members kind of go back and forth the next younger john harrison younger three years younger the gym john was the eleventh of fourteen children again born to younger clan. They're poor mother. He was one of the youngest youngstown when brothers cole and jim join william quantrill guerillas during the civil war john and his brother bob or too young stay home to look after their mother and sisters after the war was over when john and bob driven their mother and independence missouri for supplies in january eighteen sixty six a soldier recognized the family and began to make some rude comments about their brother about his brother coal when fifteen year old john told him to be quiet. The soldiers slapped him on the face with the frozen fish seriously. That's what the sources say. This guy slapped his kid with a cold fish in the face and then john pulled pulled out a revolver and shot that frozen fish lap son of a bitch right between his eyes and then to make the story even weirder after the dead soldier's body was examined. It was revealed that a slingshot links shot had been tied to his wrist i had he you know obviously privatized himself so because he had the slingshot tied to his own risk the killing was ruled as self defense you know because has guided weapon on him so no charges were filed against john's the whole things such a weird little story there sheriff john younger shot a soldier out between the is killed him dead will david deputies tough talking to me and go arrest him sheriff. The soldier did slap him in the face with a fish. We asked no provocation for murder arrest arrest him at once share. That fish was frozen frozen. How different than isn't it. You slap a man with the frozen fish asian to face your practically big for bullet but we're still learning to bring them a trial so you go grab a sheriff. The soldier did have a slingshot tattoos wrist really really wrist any slept. Step down with frozen face-to-face all right recollect. I don't really see a crime here anymore. Why don't you tale john. Hello and tells mom good day and thanks for filling me. In then we have bob younger robert bob ewing younger thirteen fourteen kids youngest youngest boy two years younger than john and even younger younger younger younger young to- manufacturers and why whatever during the war he witnessed his father being killed by union soldiers and his home burned to the ground after his brothers formed the james younger gang he would join and spend the next ten years robin banks trains and stage coaches along cross missouri kansas and other nearby stage before finally caught spent his final years in prison where he like a lot of nineteenth century prisoners would die of t._b. Consumption and i'm just blown away by how the story have backstories where you know either parents or families were killed by their confederate or union soldiers. I mean this particular story led by a lot of union soldiers and just just like places burned to the ground. That's not how you win over locals now you get him to yours. That's how you win hearts and minds by just fucking killing their parents and burning their shit to the guy. That's how you create alex say create. You know the the equivalent of a terrorist now. Let's talk a little more about that. Little tough son of a bitch earlier gang member archibald j little archie not clement archie joined the confederate grows under captain william bloody bill anderson in eighteen sixty one by the time he was seventeen. He already become lieutenant. Who's very small man weighing just about two hundred thirty pounds standing just over five feet tall he made up for a smaller stature with fearlessness and this quick and accurate pistol shot he quickly took a prominent role enersen enersen military operations including that bloody raid on lawrence kansas clement also participated in centralia missouri massacre or twenty union soldiers were robbed and shot when bloody bill anderson harrison was killed by union forces on october twenty six eighteen sixty four climate to command the unit until the war was over and after the war clem continued to create problems for the government by intimidating emanating voters and elections and becoming part of what would be the james younger gang he would lead the gang into that first robbery that resulted an estimated sixty two thousand dollars worth of cash and bonds before having those tough last words before moving onto more gang excellence. Let's go over three more members. Arthur c mccoy was james younger gang member born in ireland in eighteen twenty. Five mccoy immigrated to united states. I settle in california during the gold rush by the eighteen fifties he was living in saint louis missouri where he works as a copper smith but eighteen fifty-five mccoy mary louise gibson and the couple would eventually have five children. He then formed partnership and started a painting business called farmer and mccoy during the civil war he became a captain under confederate general jo shelby and was said it worked as a spy after the war he would join with the james younger gang where you'd be consistent member until the late eighteen seventy s where he suddenly vanishes from the history books gestion franks brother-in-law allan h palmer also road with james voice for years born and raised in missouri palmer armor road with william quantrill during the civil war was paroled with frank james and kentucky at the war's end one of the first members he would join the gang immediately effort formed palmer also snuck in a little schooling when he wasn't pointing a pistol of someone demanding money attending bryant and stratton business college in saint louis and eighteen sixty seven and eighteen sixty eight that just cracks me up to par. How are you paying for tuition. Don't worry about none gong farmer. You only had no regular job. You folks folk saying rich how you paying click. I said don't worry about it. I wrap up on machines may stop. Parma was a killer. According to some of the men who were there. He killed more men during that lawrence massacre than anyone else on november twenty fourth eighteen seventy power married susan lavinia james sister of franken jesse james and the couple would have six children and he hardly ever talked to jesse and frank about fucking her sister like a rarely came up rarely kind of went there last up uncle uncle jimmy jimmy jim cummins was born and raised in clay county missouri near franken jesse james. They were close friends fought for the confederate militia together during the war. The cointreau raiders raiders roster listed james a cummins and james robert cummings. They're likely the same person i get i get mail is both dan collins and dan cummings. Sometimes sometimes i get mail is don cummings. Jim was a founding member of the james. Younger gang also had fought previously for archie clemens. <hes> some also believe cummins was a night of the golden circle super racist pro slavery organization that wanted to annex a golden circle of territories in mexico central america the confederate states and the caribbean and then turn the whole area into a nation built on slavery to be led by maximilian the first some austrian do briefly the emperor of mexico from eighteen sixty four eighteen eighteen sixty seven jesus uncle jim. This is awkward. You're embarrassing me your windy. Jimmy random not about wendy. Jim he became a farmer in arkansas after the break-up of the james gang and still wanted man and then he tried to turn himself into authorities on several occasions but they didn't believe who he claimed he was just several times. He's like yeah. I'm jim. Did you arrest me now like out here. Ke manage now. We're w i mean aimed feel good on one in one sense but also just kind of bears him. He committed crimes. Get away with them. You feel bad your conscience gets you in the go to turn yourself in there like gary goofball not up now. Really i killed some. I killed some. I wanna i wanna do a try. I want to serve my time. A lot of money. Gave out sure you cut up a nasty. I stuck my figuring queen. Mary's going gaga august here. He's gone get jim would publish a book about his life and crimes and ninety three with the absolutely terrible title of jim collins book written by himself the life story of the james younger gang and their comrades including the operations of cointreau guerrillas by one who road with them by true but terrible tale of outlawry jesus christ whose can no editors back then you can you can buy the hardcover edition on amazon this book for six hundred dollars not kidding and it doesn't exist in any other format because i'm guessing there's zero demand for it because i'm also guessing is fucking terrible herbal. Dammit uncle jimmy even bears. You're embarrassing me again. 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Dot com slash time suck promo code time suck lincoln that episode scripts now to wrap up a few more james younger gang hang member mentioned before we get back into their exploits other members of the james younger gang alexander donovan donnie pants his brother tom thomas edward bud pence pence redmond red monkeys charlie pitts the shepherd brothers george and oliver charles fletcher taylor almost all these he's met again <hes> soldiers the confederacy confederacy also almost all denver had road with william quantrill now back to the time line. The james younger gang just kept on misbehaving june third eighteen seventy one four members of the james younger gang robbed the o clock brothers bank of corden iowa taking six thousand dollars well over one hundred thousand dollars ars in today's currency. No one gets hurt this time but the pinkerton get called in remember those pioneer detectives from suck one sixteen agency founder allan pinkerton dispatches his son robert pinkerton who joined county sheriff in tracking the gang to a farm in civil bend missouri <hes> missouri where a shootout ensues but again escapes went full southern missouri era on june twenty-fourth eighteen seventy one jesse james wrote a letter to the kansas city times claiming republicans were persecuting him confederate loyalties by accusing him and frank of carrying out these robberies riding but i don't care what the degraded radical party thinks about me i would just as soon they would think robert is not now what's interesting about this jesse's willingness to help create his own legend and his lack of truthfulness his willingness to put out some propaganda. He was a bank robber. His buddies weren't giving the money they took to. Any pro. Confederacy causes in many cases the people who lost their money also confederate sympathizers on april twenty nine eight hundred seventy two the james younger gang robs the bank of columbia in columbia kentucky killing cashier your r._i._c._o. Martin when he refuses to open the safe the gang made off with another six thousand dollars then as a twenty six eighteen seventy two jesse franken one other member of of the gang robbed the kansas city exhibition ticket office and get away with eight grand daughter struggle with the ticket seller. A young girl shot. Luckily she would live hurting. The girl bothers others just enough to write a letter into the kansas city times on october fifteenth eighteen seventy two letters published by the kansas city times while it wasn't signed by jesse. James historians ends fully believe he wrote it and he wrote as great deal has been set in regard to the robbery which occurred at the city exposition grounds. I will give a few lines to the public as i am one of the party who perpetrated the date a great many say that we the robbers deserve hanging. What have we done to be hung for. It is true rush shot a little girl though it was not intentional and i'm very sorry that the child was shot in is the parents will give me their addresses the columns of the kansas city weekly times. I will send them money to pay her doctors bill and asked to mr wallace. I never tried to kill him. <hes> only shot to make him. Let go my friend. If i've been so disposed i could have shot him did just let a party of man commit a bold robbery and the cries hang them but president ulysses grant his party can steal millions and it is alright. It is true we are robbers but we always rob in the glare of the day in the taste of the multitude and we never kill only in self-defense without out men refuse to open their vaults and safes to us it when they refused to unlock to us. We kill interesting rationalization here do we you know yeah we do but only in self-defense. It's almost like he doesn't sell defense means when i point my gun at a bank teller not tell him to open up the vault gimme all that goddamn money and he says he doesn't know the combination or he won't do it for some other reason. I feel threatened. I suddenly feel very unsafe. Breath and then i feel compelled to defend myself by shooting that dumb son of a bitch between the us and important my gun someone else and ask them to give me that. God damn money money in that field in my life is in danger once again if they refuse to cooperate with me. Nothing makes me feel more safe than someone refusing to give me a goddamn money. <hes> jesse's letter or at least let us to be written by jesse continues but a man whose goddamn enough food to refuse to say for a vault when he's covered with the pistol ought to die. There's no use for man to try to do anything. Winning experienced robber gets going on him. If he gives alarm resists or refuses to unlock he gets killed. If he obeys he is not hurting the flesh but he is in the purse all right i i he seems a little more self aware there some editors call us thieves. We are not as we are bowl robers. It hurts me very much to be called. Faith makes me feel like they were trying to put me on par with president grant and his party. We are bold roberson. I'm proud for the name for alexander. The great was a bold robber and julius caesar and the polian bonaparte and sir william wallace not all ben wallace and robert emmet. Please rank me with these not with the granitz grants party has no respect for anyone they robbed the poor and rich and we rob the rich and give to the poor as the author of the letter the public will never know i will close by hoping that horace greedy will defeat grant and then i can make an honest living living and then i will not have to rob taxes not be so heavy again interesting rational as i mean yeah i mean i you know i wouldn't have rob if what i don't have high taxes house was taxes without real hold up banks and stagecoach and trains like the claims to be a freedom fighter like william wallace but he's not waging war against you and he just take a random people's money. He's not hurting the government. He's he's attacking private businesses. He once was a political fighter. Now he feels a little bit like a like a thief in a revolutionary janeiro you know clothing may twenty seven to eighteen seventy three or four members of the james younger gang steal four four four thousand one hundred dollars from the saint genevieve savings bank think of sainte genevieve missouri. No one's killer injured in the robbery. The union government also not injured. No loot given any confederate revolutionary costs after the heist the gang steps up their game from bank robberies to train robberies the james younger gang robs are first trained near adair iowa july twenty first eighteen seventy three during the robbery the wreck <hes> they wrecked the chicago rock island and pacific railroad train overturned the engine. The train engineer died in the accident and the gang made off with three thousand dollars from passengers and funds retrieve retrieve from the express car and it was the first train robbery of the wild west. The first to occur west of the mississippi journalist john newman edwards published that that glowing twenty page story on the gang after this robbery on january fifteen to eighteen seventy four jesse james and four members of the gang robbed their first age coach near hot springs arkansas beautiful place by the way they took cash and jewels approximately three thousand dollars. No one was injured years later. After jesse's death gold watch taken from one of the stage passengers would be found amongst his effects on january thirty first eighteen seventy four five to seven members of the younger james gang hold up the saint louis iron mountain and southern railroad train at gad's hill missouri. No one's injured they make off with twelve thousand dollars in early eighteen seventy four after the gad's hill missouri train robbery the adams express company begs the pinkerton to please bring the brothers frank and and jesse james to justice finally express companies paid to carry valuables on the railroads and they rather than the train companies typically suffered the largest losses during robberies pinkerton accepted the assignment and sent one of his detectives to clay county missouri to investigate and make another attempt to capture the james brothers on march tenth eighteen seventy four or pinkerton agent. Joseph witcher arrives in clay county missouri do a little reconnaissance and then if you recall <hes> us going over this pinkerton sucked you know that this mission goes really really bad phrasing witcher which are planned to go the james farmer become acquainted with jesse and frank and then capture them and he's warned before he does this by local sheriff that that'll woman's ranaldo although will kill you if the boys don't the next day his dead body is discovered. He'd been shot three times. It starts a gang member. Arthur c mccoy. Was this killer but more more fun. Maybe two things arrested did it which is death scares off the express company but not the old abolitionist pinkerton who vows vengeance on the outlaws her you know the saying there's no use talking. They must die. That's what he wrote. Regarding james brothers pretty direct pinkerton style he doesn't he doesn't mince words our house we deal with the james brothers alan. They must die alright in the following months. When peterson's men are on their trail jesse mary's his longtime loves her elda yup april twenty third eighteen seventy jesse james mary's his blood relation this mother fucker didn't fuck his mother but he probably had already been fucking his first cousin who is now getting married to. They wanted to make the union legal. They can now legally try to have a beautiful two-headed. Three armed incest grins on april twenty third eighteen seventy four jesse. Mary's is cousins geraldo surrender amanda mimms in kansas city missouri a woman named after his own mother because you know she was her aunt now she would be her mother-in-law mother-in-law aunt not backwards at all doc. Hello here yeah known dang dang dang. Thank thank <hes> picture that being played at the wedding. <hes> don't meet a lot of relatives these days by the way i did find a few on instagram dow will deliver have another suck though featuring two different relatives and same story short. I rela zor elda zelda. The inspired legends zelda was that a game about sets of tracks zane. Jackson's zelda zelda have been engaged for nine years while the james younger gang was in full swing so they shared it who could stay engaged that long and not do it other than maybe tim tebow on their wedding day. Jesse stood tall and slim has dark hair neatly combed his hazel is pure announcement or dark eyebrows dorada a beautiful woman high cheekbones <hes> they made for very attractive couple is about fifty. Their mutual friends assembled for the occasion. The ceremony was performed by jesse's uncle william. Who's a methodist minister and who i'm guessing was also carr's second or third cousin or some shit. Industries have very confusing branches after the wedding the newlyweds honeymoon in galveston texas also said handful of jesse james baggies that he took his gang with him on honeymoon and the rob a stagecoach. What a what a workaholic work work work also getting some of that sweet first cousin love and down on the gulf of mexico reporter from the saint louis dispatch does with pinkerton do not tracks down jesse james. The reporter asked why would a woman mary the world's most notorious outlaw and according to what jesse told the dispatch report that dan galveston it was love so also a romantic the and again because the relative had the same name jesse's mom she she would go buy a sh- <hes> abbreviate version from then on a z. That does sound better than elder zelda z. Go onto become a strong woman who's also agenda and gentle loving wife and mother fiercely loyal and trustworthy she also would never take part in any aspect of her husband's. Criminal exploits little more than a year later. The young couple assumes the aliases of of dave and josie howard and they settled edgefield tennessee on the north bank of the cumberland river across from nashville jesse decides to honest living and try for the first time in his life j. j. k. g. he kept pointing guns strangers and threatening to kill them if they did get all this money. You'll know the same month yes he gets married in april eighteen seventy four his gang robs a stagecoach in austin texas then on june six hundred seventy four frank james gets married as well to any roulston omaha nebraska and he was the daughter of a wealthy independence missouri zuri businessman named samuel ralston. Perhaps franks one time has to be a teacher. His pension intellectual pursuits attracted him to miss ralston who was working as a schoolteacher when she met and married him now that both of them are married. Jane's boys were really done with thieving for good j k. They ended the robbing. A rating was still t._v._d. I am h. O. r. o. f. l. t. y. L. two months later on august thirtieth eighteen seventy four the waverley lexington omnibus stagecoach robbery blamed on the james gang and they're not a close to done few months later in december seventh. The tissue mingo savings bank robbery and corinth mississippi also blamed on the james younger gang ten thousand taken from the bank. No one injured however however <hes> th the blame for this robbery does seem somewhat unlikely as the james younger gang robbed a train in kansas the very next day so maybe they did that. Will maybe not december eighteen seventy four the gang commits. One of their largest ice. The kansas pacific railroad muncie kansas was held by jesse and his cohorts which made them fifty five thousand dollars richer. No fatalities these are injuries but fifty five grand quite into well over a million dollars in today's money. How are they gonna spend it all those fucking metal and pinkerton around trying to track them down surveillance of the james farm was become an ongoing issue because of the pinkerton in january eighteen seventy five a pinkerton agent named jack lad was posing as a field field work on the farm across the road from the james farm the farm belonging to a neighbor. Dan askew served as a hideout for this pinkerton spy undercover work mark one of the many types of detective work at pinkerton pioneered. If you remember that from that suck one afternoon this agent thinks he spots jesse and frank at the farmhouse and and contacts other pinkerton agents to come in and raid the james farm you ready for tonight's championship match. Welcome the clay county missouri showdown years in the making prepare to get struck by lightning because pinkerton bringing down under under they're taking on the world champion stagecoach train and bank robber though james brother frank and jesse who lived who died great bullets down from the sky there wouldn't be a showdown because agent lad fucked up. He was wrong members. The james family would pay the price for his error. In judgement on january twenty six eighteen seventy five thinking the james brothers were hiding out at the family farm. Six pinkerton agents surround their mother's home near kearney missouri in an effort to lure them out the agents tossed a smoke bomb into the house and then jesse and frank nine year old half brother archie samuel thing and it was a loose stick from the fire. Toss it back into the fireplace where it explodes whoops. The explosion kills a young boy wounds jesse and frank smothers geraldo <hes> windsor right hand arm so badly she later to have later had most. I have a right arm amputated this attack as you can imagine little bit of a p._r. Nightmare for the pinkerton 's they don't catch james brothers they do kill. An innocent boy almost killed their mother who never robbed anyone. The people in the press in missouri rally against the pinkerton rally behind jesse and frank james they were seen not as criminals but his victims of violence violence dealt out by union thugs. The james brothers don't waste any time of engine the death or half brother and their attack on their mother less than three months later in april twelfth eighteen seventy five. Dan askew the neighborhood sheltered jack lad the pinkerton spy found dead with a bullet in his brain in his home later that same month pinkerton undercover agent jack lad also found a shot and killed after last pinkerton give up their pursuit of the james brothers for good which is pretty crazy the the the pinkerton for like four fucking doc enough now for these assholes admits this chaos jesse and zee have their first child jesse edwards james born on august eighteen seventy. Five jesse is the father for the first time it only twenty seven years old amazing. How all this has happened. Only twenty seven years old fatherhood does melting slowdown his crime spree. He was a career criminal. Oh for sure on september seven eight hundred seventy five james younger gang robs the huntington bank in huntington west virginia another cool place making office somewhere between ten thousand twenty thousand bucks new gang member. Tom mcdaniel shot and killed another new member. Tom web caught trying to escape with the money. Another big score for the gang occurs on july seventh eighteen seventy six when robbed the missouri pacific railroad train and rocky cut missouri take fifteen thousand dollars if a keeping track the james younger game and robina rating for ten years now and they haven't lost any of the younger or the james brothers but then that changes in september of eighteen seventy six the good luck of the james younger gang comes to an end with their infamous failed attempt to rob the first national bank of northfield minnesota on september seventh acting bank cashier joseph lee heywood refuses to open the safe in ducks down and jesse doesn't care for it feels threatened scares him. He doesn't feel safe and he needs to clearly defend himself. He had been very foggy clear in that letter. Jesse put a pistol. All of the cashiers had shoots him dead and the shot is heard beyond the bank when the bank alarm goes off northfield citizens respond by opening fire upon the gang to northfield citizens killed in the shootout gang members charles pitts bill child well <hes> shot and killed bill chadwell. Excuse me cole jim bob younger all shot but managed to escape briefly. We do too their wounds their lot easier to track all three are captured over the next two weeks franken jesse escape make back to missouri unharmed but they're gangs over with with the younger brothers gone rather than give up on crime. The gang becomes the james gang and they just take on a little <hes> you know rating intermission lay low in tennessee for awhile but they'll get back to crime here shortly cole and jim younger would both spend the next twenty five years in the minnesota territorial prison in stillwater paroled in one thousand nine hundred one. Jim younger becomes engaged but is not allowed allowed to get married due to the terms of his parole and he kills himself in a hotel room in nineteen. Oh two at the age of fifty four cole reunite with frank james and toured the south frank <unk> and wild west show called the cole younger and frank james wild west company baba dived as i mentioned earlier at the age of thirty five in eighteen eighty nine in prison as the turmoil ensues around in the james brothers still live in their domestic lives on february six eight hundred seventy eight robert franklin james franken and he's only child is born franks walton. Inform your nashville on june seventeenth eighteen seventy nine. Mary susan james born to jesse james. Mary was named after jesse sister. Susan and z's mother mary shortly after the birth of mary susan jesse and frank recruit new gang members and get right back to robin and raden cow tow rate eighteen seventy nine and chicago all saint louis trained in glendale and glendale missouri rabbi the james gang of about ten thousand bucks over two hundred thousand dollars in today's money the following year september third eighteen eighty two brothers brothers make off with eighteen hundred bucks from stagecoach and mammoth cave kentucky in february of eighteen eighty one b._j. Woodson frank james alias rents a house for eight dollars a month on farland orlands street nashville tennessee a man by the name of john davis howard a- jesse james alias comes to visit these brothers continually planning new heis in march march of eighteen eighty one fifty two hundred dollars taken from a paymaster as he leaves a bank in muscle shoals alabama. The james gang is blamed on july fifteen dates ninety one the james gang robs robs yukogo rock island pacific railroad train your winston missouri of two thousand bucks in an altercation during the robbery frank murder man named frank mcmillan and also the train train conductor william westfall the gang robs another tradenet september they hold up to chicago and alton train at blue cut glendale missouri on september seventh. They make off off with three thousand dollars in cash and then take jewelry from the passengers on christmas eve in eighteen thirty. One a man named tom howard actually jesse james and his family rent a house in lafayette street in saint joseph missouri with the ten thousand dollar reward over his head z. Try to get jesse to take on a more normal life. Jesse agrees but only after one last bank robbery. Just one more in platte county missouri jesse had finally decided to retire early but as the cliche goes he just wanted one more score he hopes to come way was enough money to become a gentleman farmer. He planned the robbery with bob and charles ford young brothers in recent gang members who had worked with bit in the past. The four brothers visit the james home in saint joseph on the morning of april third eighteen eighty two bob ford with his brother. Charles enters jesse's home at about eight twenty seven a._m. While outlined his plans for the robbery with bob charles in the parlor of his home jesse notices that a frame needlepoint picture done by mother was hanging crookedly on the wall jesse turns his back to the ford brothers straight as is the picture and then he hears the sound of bob ford caulkins pistol. He starts turn around and ask turns around bob shoots jesse james in the back shoots him right below the ear killing him instantly so i mean he shoots him in the back as far as his back stern doesn't actually literally should him in the back suits in the head jesse's body hits the wall fall to the floor ends up lying on his back dead before makes to ground word quickly spreads throughout the town that jesse james world-famous allah has just been assassinated. He was the only thirty four years old at the sound of the gunshot. Jesse's children run into the room. How sad is that. His wife z. follows. She desperately tries to stop the blood pouring out of her husband's head. Bob ford leaves a z runs in charles spends a few moments trying to tell her how the gone had gone off accidentally then he to make a quick exit runs after his brother after after his death jesse packed on ice taken by train to carney where he has displayed and viewed by hundreds of friends admirers curiosity seekers because that's what people used to do as as you learned here on the south previously fucking weird nineteenth nineteenth and early twentieth century people used to love to look at the dead bodies of criminals and i bet people do the same anything today if they could get out of here if ed camper you know died next week. How many people do you think will pay a hundred bucks or more to come check out his dead body. Guess dow's why motor when most steer me and my chapels will be getting real stick happy. If i was still alive boy howdy where i fucked the next layer jessie was buried on the farm in a plot the family farm in a plot near the house so zarella could keep an eye out for trespassers or souvenir hunters. It's coming over to dig him up. In no time word spread the shooting crowds indeed began to gather around the home talking incessantly about the killing of the notorious outlaw young jesse junior. You're who was six at the time didn't even jesse james was he thought his dad was john. Davis howard he's on his own name. Was tim howard all these aliases. So why did did twenty one year old. Bob ford kill his former gang leader for two reasons. The first was at ford had killed a man by the name of wood hite january eighteen eighty two and sought a pardon for it. When word of the shooting resulted in ford's arrest he informed the officers he had access to the much more wanna jesse james and missouri's new gover thomas crittenden crittenden such a fucking weird name kristen kriton din doesn't flow off the tongue thomas critter here on governor critter governor governor critter who is sick of jesse's al antics secretly cut for deal kill jesse james and get a pardon teeny weeny bitter legal but that's how bad he wanted jesse yes he did he would let a murderer get away with murder. If that murderer murdered one more time the second reason was the reward some road and express companies had come together and collectively offered ten thousand thousand dollars for jesse's captured debtor life meanwhile some jesse's other gang members had been killed or captured in the face of you know governor critters relentless pursuit ironically jesse is he thought the ford brothers were the last two people could trust before his death to bob's hand jesse getting increasingly paranoid and his gang was falling apart had he not been shot by ford someone highly highly likely someone else would have would have shot him soon or would have been captured. Jesse recently killed gang member ed miller appear. Annoy also scared away jim comments after he began to suspect suspected of treachery. Got damaged a windy. Why you continue to humiliate me. I you're a shitty author and now you're treacherous a few weeks before bob shot him james had invited the ford brothers to move into his new home and saint joseph. The ford said yes wait for their chance to strike initially ford was charged with murdering both would high and jesse james but then true to his word governor critter parole him while he stood trial for murder as for the reward money received only a fraction of the reward damn dirty deal and rotate rotate coons returned to their hometown of richmond missouri. Bob and charles not greeted kindly residents found the killing of jesse james distasteful and they made life unbearable for the two brothers brothers. Charles ford fled richmond when he heard that frank james was searching for them to kill them in revenge for his brother's death and charles kept from town to town for the next two years changed his name several times the stress of wondering if frank would find it or not at the beginning of symptoms of consumption led to an addiction to morphine and then charles committed suicide two years after jesse's murder eighteen eighty four bob ford now run hide initially tried to capitalize on the notoriety. He gained for his betrayal of jesse. Take into the stage apparent in a stage show titled outlaws missouri several nights ford retold his story carefully omitting the part about james bax being turned when shot him his charade was short lived as he was greeted with catcalls calls jeers hoots and challenges then for short time posed for pictures in those low brow die museums. We've talked about in previous sucks as the man who killed jesse james people could come these little curiosity carney type places and get a picture with bob for far left missouri traveling all the way to las vegas new mexico then decreed colorado where he was shot down in his own saloon on june eight eight hundred ninety two by man named edward kelly kelly walked into bob slim with a shotgun ford's back was to ed ed said hello bob when four turned around oh kelly emptied both barrels of the shotgun killing forward and becoming known as the man who killed robert ford ford was initially buried in colorado but his body was later moved and reinterred at richmond cemetery in ray county missouri. The man who shot jesse james is inscribed on his tombstone. He was thirty two years old when he was gunned down. When jesse died most people assume soon he left a wealthy widow and z but that was not the case at all in fact the only valuables that they own. We're a few weapons stolen jewelry and some assorted memorabilia in late april eighteen eighty two the distraught z. James was forced to sell to sell almost all of her husband's possessions to earn money and then she and her children moved in with her brother in kansas city. <hes> donning only black clothing for the rest of her days poor z. never remarried and became a recluse which is exactly what i want you to do. If i die nice terrible reverend dr joe horse cock johnson to look after but never touch her do not fuck an advertiser anyway young jesse. This james junior forced to go work at the age of eleven helps support his mother and little sister. I do want my son to go to work bypass soon and the doodles penny ginger i want. I'll fucking. All three of those candy asses to go work. They can all tough enough little bit though the family suffered emotionally and financially for the rest of life she refused all offers to publish books or any information regarding jesse's life. She was a good wife and good first cousin to super as far as first cousin wives. Go up top shelf. One of the best on october fifth eighteen eighteen eighty two and defeated frank james surrenders missouri governor critter after fighting ratings since may of eighteen sixty one after over twenty years of being hunted he wanted to be over franquet banqueting credibly be acquitted of all charges and lives a freeman until nineteen fifteen when he died at the age of seventy two he died where he was he was born clay county missouri spending earning the final few years of his life after working on jobs all over the west turn with cole younger in that stage show throughout the south and then given tours of the james family farm and how crazy is that spent the last couple years of his life given a tour of the farm dude rob and murder for years and then gave tours of where he grew up. I mean that really is pretty similar like letting the unabomber out of prison and then having ted kaczynski who back to montana and just give tours of cabin where he made all the bumps and here's where i made my first bum i was sitting right are there when i found out i blown up and killed my first person. She didn't a sandwich. I was eating a ham sandwich thinking about how much i hated technology <hes> z. james in deep depression ever since her husband jesse's death dies on november thirteenth nineteen hundred z would be buried at the mount olive cemetery in kearney missouri sorelle two samuel mother author of jesse and frank dies of a heart attack age eighty six on february tenth nineteen eleven. She is buried at the mount olivet cemetery four years later february eighteenth nineteen fifteen frank james aims dies at the age of seventy two and just over a year later co younger dies on march twenty one thousand nine hundred sixteen the last living former leader of the notorious this james younger outlaw gang and while that is the end of this time so timeline it is not the end of today's story good job soldier older made it back so what is is there left to talk about regarding jesse james. How about the rumor that he faked his own death and lived long after bob ford supposedly killed him fans. Are you ready for tonight's event. Jesse james takes on grim reaper. Oh oh came step aside undertaker. Lee outlaw takes on ten. Amanda goulette can kill his own assassination. The nation find out it's nice cage match referee by none other than our fast shelby at how they do it in hollywood would seriously did. He fake his own death. The whole shot in the back wall street now the picture which is far too mundane for the rabbit jesse james jesse james jesse james and the for the rabbit jesse jesse james fans to accept and conspiracy sprung up almost immediately regarding james not actually being shot according to a man named j frank dalton jesse james for sure faked his death in the spring of nineteen forty eight the elderly claimed jesse james was still alive and well and living in a cabin just outside the meramec caverns missouri and how dull no because dalton alden claim to be jesse james and if you're thinking when i make him like one hundred years old yeah yeah it would and i should know before examining this possibility that when james died these scars from his multiple gunshot wounds chest and missing middle finger helped police identify his body so case closed right. I mean he's for sure dead right not necessarily not for some something. Dalton really was jesse. James don really was born around the same time as james possibly exactly the same time he was actually a hundred years old or possibly if he's lying to just it's a bit older and his body appeared to have been through hell. He had several bullet wounds a rope burn around his neck. A collapsed lung a damaged fingertip for some who met him. His wounds were consistent with jesse. James wounds as a very least does seem dalton had been <hes> pro confederate guerrilla in world war civil do in the civil war. Dude probably didn't shoot himself to kill all those scars. Dalton died at age three and august fifteenth nineteen fifty one in grant texas and his death certificate was recorded with the name of the man he claimed to be but that doesn't make kim jesse james. So how did you say faked his own death. Here's what he claims happened. He says the real murder victim was charles. Charlie bigelow an undercover pinkerton detective give who is posing and jesse james committee robberies incurring the wrath and vengeance of the real jesse james but did this agent bigalow guy even really exist his his name to show up in the usual credible places. I tend to find records of the deceased when i searched for dalton's theory hold it. There was a murder hoax conspiracy involving several people all close friends the real jesse james who conspired together to murder someone and who then all swore before the investigating officials at the murder victim was jesse james. The goal of the conspirators was to manipulate a._p. Late and or control the murder evidence in such a way that the law enforcement and judicial authorities involved investigating the murder would certify the jesse was legally dead. Thus setting jesse james free cool story bro night <hes> then what then just the ford brothers endured a shit ton of public scorn for years because they were just really good friends with jesse <hes> <hes> and his family fake their grief i guess and law officials and friends who had met him or known him you know well. We're duped into thinking dead. Body put on display was was really him now. Do i believe the ship no now for a second i don't believe jesse james would abandon his wife and his children and let his family live in utter misery and financial ruin for many the years which for sure happened. I do think good for you old man dalton again cool story way to enjoy your bonus golden years. I mean do do trade quite a little fancy life from self over one hundred years old. He tricked a fair number of journalists and authors he was looted in able to. We've quite detail quite the tall tale that age. I hope that i can live that long and be still be able to fuck with people on that age. Also jesse james body was exhumed in nineteen ninety five d._n._a. Was tested against that of a descendant and the results proved that it was highly likely that investigators educators were indeed examining the remains of the outlaw basically d._n._a. Testing confirmed the jesse did die in eighteen eighty two as much as familial dna testing can jesse esi james potentially faking his own death is an elaborate conspiracy revolving around the infamous allah but it's not the most elaborate one another interesting theory come from one of jesse's own <unk> descendants and it includes not only different fake story but also secret societies and even connections to treasures like the oak island money pit a man named daniel j duke a man who claims to be jesse james great great grandson has allegedly put twenty years of research into his family sorted midsized hyperbolic history duda. Eh duke takes the romanticized versions life and turns up to eleven one lada in his two thousand nine hundred book jesse james and the lost treasure secret diaries coded maps and the knights of the golden circle something jesse james left behind some secret diaries and some you know coded treasure maps and duke apparently has one of jesse's diaries and has copies copies of a few of these treasure maps and working to decrypt these maps <hes> do claims to have revealed a number of hidden treasures yet to be recovered as well as connections between the infamous train robber and freemasonry henry of course the knights templar of course <hes> the founding fathers and even jewish mysticism so you know jesse james was a fucking space lizard. Yeah the the book also explains how jesse james techniques involving sacred geometry esoteric symbols to hide his treasures and encode the maps do claims to coating of some of the map secrets do confirm the the existence of jesse james treasurer in oak island of course do also explains how he thinks jesse james faked his death lived out his final years under the name james l. courtney an eight hundred eighty two he became apparently became a freemason under that name do claims to uncover truths about james affiliation with the knights of the golden circle that super pro slavery secret society that is reportedly portadown buried confederate gold across u._s. Do claims that his famous ancestor was not a member of the group but actually linked to much older secret societies like the road secretions due goes to great lengths to win the reader over with not just a family history. He claims to possess which includes the one supposed diary several artifacts <hes> <hes> but also also information on the d._n._a. Testing jesse james in which he claims that their family was <hes> the body dug up five was actually not true in fact his mom even wrote a book. David duke's mother wrote a book titled jesse. James lived and died in texas and she claims approved that the body jesse james you know that was dug up and d._n._a. Tests actually somebody else. There's there's a lot to digest and his claims for millions of dollars of gold buried under lake somewhere to fucking oak island two stories about jesse james robinson donkey train transporting tens of millions of dollars worth of gold since duke is mostly pushing his book towards conspiracy shows and popular and tinfoil hat kind of circles is best to approach coach his story with a grain or two or huge goddamn mound of salt. Do i buy history. Fuck no not even for a little bit but it's conspiracy conspiracy that is out there so i thought i acknowledged it. Comes across to me as randy shock type of insanity. You know like like randy was writing about. I just high. Did you know jessie. James was a knights templar and also a freemason satanist and he used blood. Sacrifice is to bury magic gold in dwarf mine that leads to oak island arc of the covenant. Did i tell you what paul harvey told my dad about. Rosicrucians asian gold jesse buried in atlantis eschola mirian. If you don't believe me see you later. There's no need to try and make jesse's. Life is bigger than it was. It was already legendary in the twelve to fifteen years of his criminal career. Jesse james took part somewhere between nineteen and twenty six robberies including banks train stage coaches his crime crime stretch from mississippi to west virginia to minnesota some of estimated he yelps deal around five million in today's dollars between seventeen twenty people died as a result of his gang's robberies including seven of his cohorts law enforcement of private detectives failed repeatedly to catch jesse <hes> missouri earned the nickname the robber state because of his activities jesse fought numerous civil war battles guerrilla skirmishes <hes> who knows how many men met their deaths at his hands when he ran with men like bloody bill cointreau raiders the dude live long and bloody life and as an outlaw he never got caught which is crazy to me he he robbed time and time again for years and got away with it and was he a hero. I don't think so. I think he's a seriously tough son of a bitch. If i lived around him i sure as hell wouldn't across him but i don't think he was here. I think he was really good to be an outlaw. I also do feel some sympathy for him. It's easy for us to get on our moral high horses now and just simplistically say slavery was bad south wrong should just lay down their guns and accepted that have been and better people but we didn't live one hundred fifty years ago we weren't raised as if that was normal we didn't grow up and then run farms and plantations that we thought depended on slave save labor to work. You know we also were beaten by union soldiers. We didn't have our homes burned to the ground or family. Members assaulted and killed jesse did experience all of this if i was him i'm guessing guessing out of fucking hated the union too in the sense of you folks with my family now. I'm gonna fuck with you. I i get some what he did. I get his teenage joining of the confederate guerilla forces for his going on for your after your after the war i think he just like stealing people shit. He could have left the area to start a new life for himself but he didn't he robbed and killed over and over again outlaws cool word but really the end of his life. You know he was more of a thief or terrorist is a highly celebrated psychopath with a good p._r. Guy <hes> all that being said i still love story so bold and brazen and his crime so tough and there is something romantic about the about the notion of the wild west outlaw not hide behind a bulletproof vest or snipe people with a rifle or walk into a mall an open fire on unarmed people superior weaponry. I mean i know the bank. Tellers and railroad employees were armed either but you know the way these guys robin rated i. I don't wanna say there was something cool about it but their crimes seem how are somehow sima ema. I dunno more dignified to me in some way than a lot more modern. I don't know maybe it. Maybe i just watched too many westerns grownup. Maybe this romanticized a for me maybe to spend too much time dreaming about being an outlaw myself right off on horseback after taking a bunch of cold hard cash from a from a train i mean i know it's fucked up even thinking about right now now. Mike sounds sweet probably just rationalizing about a guy who may have been a total derby. Let's get out of here. Let's go to today's top five takeaways yeah he are high. Hi take away number one. It's important to to have a solid nickname or sell the name. Just you know so. If you want to be remembered billy the kid while bill hickok solid jesse james powerful good alliteration frank james not as cool sounds like an accountant frank sounds kinda bummer windy jim cummins dumb. You need a cool name to be a memorable outlaw reverend. Dr paisley could be an outlaw now. How's his new nickname of horse called johnson. That's fucking. That's powerful. It's alpha way better than micro pain. They're scared me. No one one gives a shit about the criminal exploits of micro micro pin is running off with fucking weasel with with flappy sour patch not horse johnson. He's with james younger gang number two jesse james married his first cousin and they had kids to survive to adulthood jesse edward james junior and mary susan james while two others died after birth. Maybe because her parents were cousins. Don't know that for sure but i think it is important to spread those genes around meet sacks. A one of the books we reference for this episode was written by jesse son john lot of misspelled words in it. When i came across them i did keep thinking maybe would have spelled out right if his if his dna halo more balance if a jeans rubio liberal more spread out the pool was a little deeper number three jesse. James didn't fake his own death. He didn't have coded diaries and treasure maps leading to oak island. Stop it funny thing about the number four jesse james was not the robin hood type character. He's often portrayed us the gang he belonged to didn't bury the money to pay for the poor to finally bury it for themselves to find later. They spent the money they stole. They didn't steal from the rich to give to the poor. They stole from trans. Banks and taste goes to keep that share for themselves number five new info something we didn't discuss apparently jesse james son jesse james worked for the very man who procured his father's death missouri governor tritter governor critter thomas t crittenden story goes like this when former governor thomas t crittenden was asked if he'd employed in his office jesse james junior whose father was killed through mr clinton's instrumentality governor critter replied if i were to build a monument denials as high as that erected to washington at the capital. I don't suppose i could effectively stop the continued existence of the story. The facts indicate that several years ago my son thomas j crittenden junior then real estate dealer in kansas intercity and now county clerk of jackson county in which kansas city is located advertise boy to work in his office on the morning following the advertisement of number boys ron hand and my son reported ordered to a kind of civil service examination tester merits. The boy whose papers were best was called forward and asked his name. My name is jesse james junior he replied my. I son was more than amazed instead. Do you know who i am. Yes sir you are governor crittenden son well then you go home and tell your mother about all this and if she is willing for you to work for me at the wages ages i offer come back tomorrow morning very well. Sir i have got to help my mother and sister and i'll come back and back. He was the next morning at this time. Mrs jesse james james was living in the suburbs of kansas city. Let me tell you what became of the boy remains my son for several years being honest and faithful to a degree then my son secured him a place place an armored packing house in kansas city where he is now employed respected by everyone and having a number of men under him and he is but twenty years age that is the whole story so just weird little twist there. We are little side story. I mean i don't know if i could do that. I mean could you work for the sound of the man who hired an assassin to kill your dad time talk by jesse. James and his involvement in the james younger gang has been sucked what a life got to be one of the most beloved search murderers in history. Thank you to the time suck team. Thanks to queen of the sock lindsey combines high priests other harney valley camp now here in the sucked engine reverend for dr joe horseback johnson paisley <hes> thanks to the bid elixir app design crew new update coming soon. I promise thanks to access a pair of all the recent coup last march. Thank zack script <unk> even coming out <hes> thanks zach script keeper flannery in those <hes> hammers of knowledge sarah rebecca lily for the research assistants on this one also oh thanks to the time suckers and med students nick lachey and jessica lung for lending their expertise to the antibac- saination conspiracy sucked sorry. I forgot to thank you two weeks ago. I blame enlist fina distracting temperatures and for some reason i blame mongol. When did jim gal gadot jim. Thanks to all the space that there's who came to the time talked to gathering on saturday and made it such a big success saturday before this past center saturday as you're hearing it now <hes> looking for social interaction with other suckers head to the cult of the curious private avid facebook group now up to twelve thousand members <hes> around twelve thousand members. It's getting close to becoming a small virtual city somewhat like mighty curious beautiful weirdos hill nimrod the next monday leonardo davinci painter architect inventor student of all things scientific guy with the name cool enough to be used for ninja turtle many years later a genius who crossed so many disciplines he epitomizes the term renaissance man today he remains best known for his art including two paintings that remain among the world's most famous and admired munnelly said the the last supper but he did much more than paint largely self educated he fill dozens of secret no books with inventions observations theories about pursuits from aeronautics to anatomy he he was far far ahead of his time. The rest of the world in the late fifteenth and early sixteenth century is just beginning to share knowledge in books made with movable type. The the concepts expressed davinci's. No books were just difficult for them to interpret. He was truly ahead of his time. As result is temporary didn't appreciate the full scope of genius the combination of intellect and imagination that allowed him to create at least on paper and vengeance the bicycle the helicopter and airplane based on the physiology and flying capability of a bat but did he kill anyone is he hiding treasure in the oak island money pit dono list next week to find out now. Let's get to some time sucker updates times editor update this i update it comes from someone identifying themselves elves as general nonsense mystery like it they right greetings master sucker remember when the u._s. government was investigating russian email probe relating to influencing u._s. elections since i do while rummaging through piles of data authorities ran across references to a russian top secret program it roughly translates to project week body supply supply otello something it was a project created during the cold war and was designed to spread propaganda across the countries of europe and united states regarding the dangers of accedes. The end goal of this project was to convince russian foes to not vaccinate their children so that in the event of a war russian armies would more easily defeat those who oppose russia. The project was created by none other than vladimir putin while he was still working within the k._g._b. When the berlin wall fell he claimed to have burned russian intelligence documents but since he was the one that created those documents detailing the plans it is questionable whether he actually followed through with the destruction or if he did it's presumed <hes> created new plans from his memory or ads is presumed. This is how the whole antibac- movement really started as the brainchild of russian intelligence in order to conquer western civilization. The plan was put in place and inconvenient patsy. Patsy was found in dr wakefield wakefield silverman maintains his innocence <hes> and has his own conspiracy theories regarding pharmaceutical companies that are out to get him and discredit him. This was all cleverly crafted and well thought out by putin decades before wakefield came into the forefront so the antibiotics movement is just another part of russians plans lands to conquer the west and the only way to truly combat this sort of subversive planets vaccine our kids not only will it help their immune systems but it will also counteract russian plans to destroy troy the west hoping that read it's entirely made up and false but i think someone who's anti vaccine believe it enough to actually decide to vaccinate their kids you you can't be crazy with facts and logic. You have to be more crazy and outlandish hell nimrod general nonsense. That's fucking great love the creative misdirect in the message nonsense. It's really the idea of creating conspiracies. They get conspiracy theorists to do things that are good for their lives and for the rest of us when we need to come up with conspiracies that make people want. I spend more time in the library. <hes> go back to school. Enjoy school takes them critical thinking courses and love self-improvement what if more people watch videos about that kinda shit on youtube youtube instead of watching stuff on kim trails in the building. I i really would be amazing. I love your heads at all kinds of topic hill number that was great all kinds of topics getting touchdown touchdown by <hes> super sucker meg a and this update meg writes dear master sucking tin warning in advance this e mails going to be all over the place. I'll start by saying thank you this week's. Week's episode gave me a huge laugh right when i needed it this. I started listening to the episode on my way home from work. It was on the verge of tears due to money stress over our wedding that is less than three weeks away now now but when you started reading randy shocks author bio from amazon those stress tears turned into tears of laughter by the time you're done reading. I felt much better <hes>. I love hearing stuff like that. That's that was great about tom. Selleck even in the dark episodes find some humor to inject as i continue to listen to the episode on my way back to work today got me thinking about how many creeps i've encountered in my life. It made me realize how with more paranoid brain it really is easy to see evil conspiracies everywhere. The first flashback came when you were talking about the world's biggest piece of shit pediatrician and he reminded me of my own former pediatrician. I never liked him because he was a mean old man. He <hes> tip over into creepy man when i went to was a teenager and he insists that i had had to take my bra off so he used his stethoscope to listen to my heart and lungs which no doctor has ever requested sense and actually on that note really quick several messages from other times doctors who who had other doctors in the past talk about that exact same phenomenon so fucking creepy. Luckily after that my mom said i never had to go see him again. Then you started talking about the catholic pre scandals it reminded me of my aunts neighbor for many years neighbor was a priest who was a nice guy or seemed to be nice guy was friendly with him he would hold mass in his backyard and sundays in the summer and would let me fish schoff his docks when i would visit her or fish off his doc yeah then he got busted for pedophilia. It was such a shock because you never would have guessed. It's the people you never would've suspected that. Make it all that much more scary now backtracking last week's episode i meant to write in last week but note the aforementioned wedding stress my soon to be sister-in-law and her husband antibac- sers part of me wants to make make them listen to the episode but i fear there already too far gone. They've gone to multiple rallies and are planning on home schooling their older son after gets kicked out of school for not having the proper vaccinations it looks i bet they said quote. It looks better for future lawsuits than pulling him out ball then pulling him voluntarily <hes> that's crazy. They wanted to get kicked kicked out so they can sue on fucking believable. Oh well on one hand. I can respect their desire to not have the government. Tell them how they have to raise their kids. I can't say i respect their lack of inoculations. In an ideal world. The government wouldn't have to force vaccines because every parent would want to vaccinate their kid to keep them safe. I think the problem is that were so far removed from where these diseases were huge deal agreed. We no longer see hundreds of thousands thousands people dying from them so we don't think catching measles is a big deal or an issue. I just feel kind of bad for my future nephews since they complain about him not having anyone to play within their neighborhood but are now planning on taking taking him out of the place where he has friends and kids to play with just for their own agenda well. This is already gone a long enough so let's move on to all the emails you have to read. Keep on truckin. Make a thank you meg further information. Thanks for sharing that. I'm sure it resonates with other listeners yeah covering a lot of interesting information and it is scary. How these people you know be around us that you mentioned earlier an email <hes> funny family whack a doodle lost technology update coming in from sucker robin kibi who writes doctor reverend sack dan. I've listened to your podcast as my boyfriend's showed it to me almost four years ago. I've like this is a knock noodle. <hes> it's only been out for almost three years but because it become a part of people's lives i hear people say all the time now like oh listen for like five years which i love. I love i love. It feels like it's just been around. I loved her comedy ever since can't wait until i turned twenty wants that i._c._u. Spectacularly air banjo person actor tony. Thanks tom thank fucking beautiful. You'll you'll tear up. I'll tell you that you're in tier up. I just finished listening to your technology episode and i thought you would like to know about my parents. I grew a mormon in utah which i'm sure you know means that was surrounded by my religion constantly my dad being smart person saw sauce through some of the leadership leadership of the church the nonsense it was going on and my parents became inactive when i was fifteen at first they still believe in the teachings of the l._d._s. church just not the leadership they found a group of friends who believe the same thing they went on to have sacramento on sundays together. I get that flash forward five years later my parents their friends are deeply involved in some new age shit. My mom keeps crystals in her car now and they believe in aliens etc. My favorite part is that they watch ancient aliens religiously watch it seriously my mom watches aliens with the bible on her lap taking notes about all the crazy shit they talk about believing every word there was an episode about the pyramids specifically that they are all connected by some sort of energy and if they were still connected there would be a power our goal. Do we more powerful than any tech. We have today season five episode. One and my mom bought all of it. She said maybe if they were all connected with some aliens or angels or maybe christ himself there are passages in the book of mormon the conveyor affi- this you talking about the pyramids reminded me of that incident and i thought the team might get a kick out of my crazy but loving parents. Eh love the work. You're doing with this passion project. Look forward to seeing you live. I would love to see latter day saints episode because they have <hes> you know so much information on them and have somewhat of shady history. I will gladly give you the articles in books. I have an about that history if you're interested thanks for your time. Keep on truckin. Robin yeah actually rob yes. If you want to send in those books you can send them into p._o. Box three eight nine one corden idaho eight three eight one six. We are going to be doing an l._d._s. Suck later this year and i'm excited for it just to learn more about the interesting history of that organization and thanks for sharing that about the pyramid power grid. I love how serious your mom is about it now. Some stock love coming in from roman catroga. <hes> <hes> this fantastic time sucker rights. Hello big daddy suck. My name is roman khuda. I'm from moldova. I currently reside in st louis missouri. Okay showed up londres tale. Love the the podcast and your standup. I and i cannot wait you here in saint louis working on getting there for twenty twenty by the way i know you aren't coming here anytime soon but when you do i definitely will buy tickets. Bring some friends long american because the podcast is the only thing that helped me from going insane at my job. I work long hours. The podcast makes the time fly by my favorite episode is split between our filthy and crazy vlad the hokey pokey and samrai's. Did you know that there's a graphic novel called vagabond that is about the life of miyamoto musashi. It is very good and i recommend man. I wish i had more time for graphic novels but i have heard that one. I just haven't read just wanted to say thank you. I'm glad that i found a new family here. In the space hazard army praised me bojangles keep on suck and much love roman aw praised raise beat the spaces roman yeah thanks for support and show and thinks that update next update comes from cold member mike copy and it's probably one of the cutest shoutout requests ever dear masters sucker written and before but this raises because i saw the court elaine little league team made it to the regional finals the little league world series the unfortunate lost in the finals else on august tenth but they should get a shot off since those boys played their hearts out on that field and went down swinging literally they may not be old enough to listen but maybe in one of their parents or family members does it may lift a spirit or to <hes> you know if need be p._s. I'll be your minnesota. Show hope to meet you. Since it's big deal all well. Thank thank you very much <hes> mike for right. Yes big congrats to the kids here. In cd who almost made it back to the little league world series a lot of amazing baseball being played by these kids in town. <hes> i saw that in the paper but forgot to mention it very cool. Hopefully they can get washed in play when these days what a what a great game to love baseball. This next update brings me. <unk> joy is it sounds like the time suck. University is taking hold in another mind or two from time sucker. Nick layton writes dear master sucker. I wanted to say thank you for the various influences you've had in my life. My brother introduced me to your stand up. Take thank you for that. Actually i paused 'cause i was thinking of. I always think of ridiculous shit to say right when you were saying such nice thing whatever funding dork and he was like move. Let's move onto the next one. No i'm glad glad my brother introduced me to stand up and then your podcast broadcast shortly afterwards you've remarked <hes> o of it re sparked my interest in learning about various subjects. They might be considered dark the biggest influence so it's been on my brother himself after starting and listen he started making serious steps to further his education. This is important to me because he never showed much interest in school. When we were growing up now he's going to college for green architecture seen the spark in him has been amazing. I hope this message find you will hoping you could give him a shadow. His name is dylan and he's made a couple road trips. For the heart of branson missouri missouri his are- branson missouri for the sole purpose of senior stand up well. Hail nimrod inhaled dylan. Get that fucking degree. You beautiful bastard do so much good in the world love it love it now very cool backstage just a couple of very cool vaccination info commoner from super sucker matt baker a guy who works in vaccinations. He writes insert technical jargon. Hey time suck power stream. The anti vaccine nine circle colts loved them. Thanks for the good info have a couple of things of lights note. You'd like you to know about vaccines and specifically as part of my job. Administer vaccines like tetanus hepatitis a. and b. influenza etc and someone who thinks critically and if we're being honest suspiciously i always read the manufacturer's information with these the portions we commonly referred to as package inserts are included in medicines to be administered and give us data used for more most of the studies what he's done the drugs for example a specific manufacturer now uses canine kidney cells to conjugate their flu shots helping bypass allergies to eggs and chicken and part of the population easy enough to ask for and if your nurse medical assistant clinician has read knows their stuff they can spouted off easily also of technical boring note individual dose the packaging for vaccines like the flu shot not generally required preservative ingredients see <hes> the mirasol the organic mercury preservative depending on the manufacturer. They ship refrigerated to eliminate the need for additional ingredients multidose vials. We usually contain the preservative in small quantities to keep the vaccine stable for the volatile us for several patients but you've i've already pointed out how miniscule the amount of mercury contained actually is thanks to reading. This crap kind of my job used to do workplace education training for my job until a corporate takeover. Shit can mace on back on on the floor of my patients. Doing what i enjoy most anyway aggravating my co workers also making the nervous with random unprompted serial killer stats also for the love of god if you have a question about medicine or healthcare. I know you have the best team freezers but i'm happy to answer questions provide phonetic pronunciation guides for medical jargon see education drain also also something i'm thinking about for a while. I think take my help is sucked. Please tell me if i'm mistaken. Dan okay yeah. Can you drop some more anchor. Points in timelines drop an anchor point to refer back to such as x date. Why date so we're three months from now help add cohesion to a narrative also realistically drawn a timeframe. Dan does is occasionally but i think more reference points in addition to listing the sequential dates would help show a flow of time a little better especially for those of us that have listened to suck on one and a half speed and the ad for so long we can't go back to normal speed just dot hope it helps happy to have a place my rabid morbid curiosity. Thanks always met <hes> man. That's a yeah that's awesome. Thanks thanks for the notes about vaccinations that people can actually get things that don't have certain preservatives in them. They can find out what ingredients is in those vaccines if that will make them feel better about getting vaccinated and also for the constructive criticism. This isn't about how to lay out these long and sometimes very long now narratives. I liked the anchor point idea. 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Jesse James and the Lost Templar Treasure with Author Daniel Duke

Truth Be Told

47:43 min | 11 months ago

Jesse James and the Lost Templar Treasure with Author Daniel Duke

"It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and relief with active OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC Free Hemp Oil Jesse James One of America's Bler may have found it in today we have authored and the great great grandson of Jesse listen in the founding fathers through secret diaries left behind by Jesse Jane Daniel Welcome to be told thanks and lost treasures I mean what what more can you expect I mean this is this is good coded maps in the Knights of the Golden Circle so let let's go and I was wanting to find find out where where did you find out about these diaries who found from eighteen seventy one till eighteen seventy six in there several others in the family one of those so I mean why why are they so protective of it is it because some there's probably treasure legends in the other are symbols in the other diaries at least one his his mother she was they want to the house and took the trunk that he had full of full of family mother did probably shouldn't have said that right but no my great grandparents but my grandparents they they were very secretive about certain things and I'm trying to keep keep secrets so I'm excited to talk about about as yourself yeah some he's got we'll codes was he had a couple of letters in the word it made it easy fairly easy to decipher symbol of treasures and then there's other symbols he he's got throughout his diary he he was killed or died or was this after because I know have is dated from eighteen seventy one to eighteen seventy six dinners he also mentions a trip they went on to Louisiana where he was there there were robberies in the same areas he was in even the same same there well one thing we have in common my great uncle he was actually part of oncle skinny he was the the of course they had cars at the time I think it was a nineteen twenties but Jesse James is is the biggest secret because we've seen hundreds of TV Emilio Estevez who that was with a stew uncommon in those days is do you think he was he faked his death again I think he it was his main reason was to to get away from the law eventually out eventually right right right right well I there's detractors of course then most of the the small group of detractors and a as you know it started out with they were mocking my mother fortunately put a stop to that and after that started she wrote a third book while my mother focused mostly on Jessie I much bigger than I anticipated well I mean did you get involved where she left I got I got involved because of my mother and I was never going to write about the Da Vinci Code meets the national the movie national treasure in a way I amassing the treasures and in hiding them and I wasn't going to say a word about I know it you kind of get you get to where you don't even most people don't live day to day thinking Jesse but the first book was a little about Jesse mostly about the treasures what Robert Already I do know there are there's I believe there's hundreds several of those I was shown of former Texas Attorney General Wagner car had day probably it pushing billion dollars somewhere in that that area was doing it illegally and they basically they protected the treasurer I don't know any the details on who got it or where it went I was going to ask you because we hear all the time you know these I guess people didn't want it known whoever Arista not right outside of Georgetown Texas and this was back in mostly okay first of all it was Jesse James A freemason or was he part of the Knights templar listen I know for a fact I believe he probably it wouldn't shock it ties back to the Knights templar saw he was trump I would imagine as far as I know yeah I my my grandfather he yeah in my you know some of my ancestors were freemasons quite well yeah over the years when when we first came out with the story when scary never nice guys and as as the years have gone it goes it goes back a lot further than I thought it did and after writing Noor of Modern Day freemasonry and Rosa Cruzan Ism always look at him almost as a itself it says you explain Jesse James used techniques involving sacred geometry very the treasurer or was he was his other because how did he some of the treasures that he buried he had stole in his gang and I passengers and that's well documented but I think their main target you read about the robberies they all every train they hit had hit the target and they they left and I used to wonder if they got all that gold how did getting rid they knew they had the templates veil like a grid system that covers the Americas it located on the the grid template or the veiled template and they could just drop it off yeah it's easy to want once you see it once you know it you know how maybe shows a like you said national treasure and you know the fantasy of it and you're you're actually a ancestor that was part of something so big I mean that's every amazing I mean you can you can't dig up a lot of facts on the secret society part of it or here's to figure it out so that took a long time by the time you figure some of the symbols if you're not in especially like the Knights Templer I I found out we call him GRANDPA a Jesse was a freemason hike mentioned a lot he mentioned cabal like in his book morals and Dogma he he I'm just reading about those topics kind of draws you into it ju just because they're fascinating dumb stumbled onto it and it just kind of lead me down the path and there's a lot of rabbit holes you rabbit hole and sometimes you would and thinking of sounds crazy new backup backtrack go I got on Google Earth started drawing out the maps the way I'd I discovered them his oak decks he's on my live right over at guest I have to say he's I love him he's ahead stumbled onto from fifteen sixteen it was a book by payload and it went from that into a just just so many other topics but Bacon I thought Francis Bacon was the guy who started it all in the night I oh seven He was an alchemist he was he was a genius in his own right and it went your guest of the Knight Templar Hugh Hugh the count of Champagne who is one of the founders the renaissance time back through Leonardo Da Vinci and eight it was quite a trip now I said I always she really knew her she came anyway shows we when we found out who she was found when you when you mentioned these founding fathers it's it's it's fascinating in just in intrigues it's yeah to even speculate the the amount of secrets you didn't know that for a long time well I knew about you know parents or great grandparents who verified that well it was it was family a mom finally She decided she wanted to find out you know what was and she started digging up you know we got our photographs and we to historically accepted photos and we had his mother is as they should they looked alike they're missing the same arm and even wore the same same woman same missing arm same dress and even the same print that was deformed or it was it got maimed when they pinkerton through the and that's how he got his hand maimed and it looked kind of like a it didn't look too frenzy photographic lab of the Texas Department of Public Safety which is I bought out by somebody else but three different experts all verified that are photos matched and that's when all the trouble with that started but so you know she went back to the drawing side of it I wrote about and I just finished second book which is all about just continuing I think it's important that this is American history this is something that's I am many many many times so so I I wanna get back and many of them have been found but I'm curious and and and see if you're it kind of came across these treasures and they buried in caves how were they discovered and gave the happened to be it it fell on the right spot on the on the grid pattern the veiled template several sh she said the light his dry or wagner cards driver told us return trips and got more and that's all that's all she told us about that and that she she claimed and Wagner car claimed that the the railroad spur and that one was near but she said the spar was built for the purpose of all right so tell us tell us the the knights templar treasure org money or gold or whatever and then buried it the knights templar goes back way it lines up with historic sites around the country the Newport tower the Kensington long shot so it it had to involve other people in there's no way one man could cover it wasn't just a group it was a very dedicated group and the freemasons and they were they were the ones who did this now I'm starting to forget your question uh throughout history I think even but but the main treasure I believe I think it was the treasures from the temple in Jerusalem and not just that according at the treasures come from not just the temple Jerusalem but other his in the Middle East so they he said the templar weren't part of the crusaders they went in good safeguarded it to preserve it and and hit it so there was a lot from the Catholic church and it wasn't it was they were actually protecting and they turned on him and when and I think they knew what was coming before that out there before it actually happened Sarma also thanked yeah I think from there they went to Scotland I think from Scotland they probably regrouped in this treasure to America and they did are fetched but I'm not quite sure that it is as far fetched as that'd be amazing but I I don't know maybe that's farfetched but at the same time of silver coins or maybe a couple of gold coins if I was really lucky right and then you know you keep trying to verify this stuff in everything keeps matchy in wilderness and wondering could this be true it seems way too far fetched one example is I had a I had a cousin that years ago we used

Jesse James One America billion dollars
The crooked picture

Retropod

04:14 min | 1 year ago

The crooked picture

"Richard pod is sponsored by T. Rowe price. Are you looking to learn a thing or two about getting your finances in order saving and investing? Check out the confident wallet a personal finance podcast series by T. Rowe price and the Washington Post brand studio find it wherever you get your podcasts. Hey history lovers. A Mike Rosen with retro pod. A show about the past rediscovered Jesse James. If there is anything to be learned from his death on April third eighteen eighty two it is this. If you see a picture hanging crooked on a wall. And there was a bounty on your head leave the picture alone. Let me explain. This is James his brother Frank you might recall, let an outlaw gang that robbed killed in terrorized many victims. They're brazen. Violence in district for the law earned them mythical status in outlaw history by eighteen eighty two. There was a five thousand dollar bounty on Jesse James head games was paranoid about being caught. But his gang had been nearly annihilated in he needed help to survive. So he reluctantly welcomed a young fellow named Robert Ford into the fold. James never completely trusted for. But this was in the days before gangster could check on a new guys loyalties by syrup typically reading his text messages are searching his browser history. In other words, James had no way of knowing that Ford in his brother Charlie had been secretly plotting with the Missouri. Governor to collect the bounty their plan with to catch James unarmed and take him down. They'd been waiting awhile for their chance. It was just after breakfast on a hot spring day. When that chance arrives James was renting a home in Saint Joseph, Missouri hiding out as the law closed in Jesse and Charlie filled their bellies then went outside to feed their horses when they returned Jesse took off his coat to cool down. Then he took off the revolvers. He normally kept hidden under the coat. According to historian, TJ styles games was afraid. The neighbors would see was armed and get suspicious maybe turning him into the authorities. Then the picture caught his eye. It was hanging on the wall crooked. He just couldn't leave it James pulled over a chair and stood on it turned his back to the Ford brothers and reached up to straighten the picture. The Ford brothers saw their chance as James fixed the photograph. He heard a familiar sound cocked guns. He turned his head toward the noise. But it was too late. Jesse James was dead, but the legend of his life and death lives on. Games. Murder was portrayed in two thousand eight film called the assassination of Jesse James by the coward. Robert ford. The film depicts Ford regretting ending jesse's life. You know, what I expected Ford's character says toward the end of the movie applause. I was only twenty years old then I couldn't see how it looked too. I was surprised by what happened. They didn't applaud. Not long after a man named Edward or Kelly armed with Assad off shotgun walked into a saloon co-ord- own. Nobody ever figured out who Kelly was or why he showed up that day. Looking for four in the movie Ford has his back to Kelly. Hello, bob. He says raising shotgun. Ford turns around. The screen goes black. But you know, what happens next? That's how things were done back. Then. I'm Mike Rosenfeld. Thanks for listening for more forgotten stories from history. Go to Washington Post dot com slash retro pod.

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Steelers Preview: Breaking down the TE depth chart heading into 2019, and MORE

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Steelers Preview: Breaking down the TE depth chart heading into 2019, and MORE

"Pittsburgh Steeler fans. Welcome back to another episode of the Steelers preview. I am Jeff Harbin editor of behind steel curtain dot com. Joining me as always the dynamic duo of Brian Davis, and Dave Scofield employed. We have a full slate to talk about today, and I get the feeling that sometimes fans might see this podcast. They might read it on behind the curtain dot com. And they might think what in the world is there to preview because during the regular season, we always look ahead to the upcoming game. Well, this kind of turn into like a mash up we do preview positions, and we are doing positions today. We're gonna be talking about the tight end position to the last ofensive position group for this Steelers preview off season, but we're gonna be talking about the Super Bowl and as everyone's favourite segment. The either ordinary end where we have a little fun, but let's start off with Super Bowl. Fifty three gentlemen. You can go ahead and say Hello when we get to talking about this game. I think the number one thing that everyone's talking about is. Was it a good game? I'm gonna hold my thoughts on this. Until after you, all go. I'm curious to hear what you think Brian Brian Davis, say Hello. And what did you think about fifty three gentlemen? Good evening. The calendar might say two thousand nineteen. But when I'm with you guys I party like it's nineteen ninety nine. And speaking of partying the Super Bowl is my favorite day of the year. And even though the patriots are in it. Even though it was the low the lowest scoring gave all time. I loved it. You know, why? Because it kept my attention. It was a good game. Okay days. Go healed. Welcome to the show. What are your thoughts? My thoughts are is that well defense wins championships. So it was definitely a defensive battle. I don't know if the patriots defense were as good as they appeared. Or if the stage was just too big for the Rams offense. But either way I mean, it's it wasn't a blowout. I didn't fall asleep. Like I did with the Broncos and Seahawks one year. So that's a positive. So I would say it was a it was a good enough game. If you're the type of person that just wants nothing but score score score. Who's going to have the ball last four touchdowns in the final two minutes? You were going to hate it. But that's not all that football is. So I I was entertained enough to say that it was a good game. This this game sucked. It was awful. I mean, it was atrocious in so many ways because in my opinion. Dave, I hear you're saying that the defense is still something that you can watch. I didn't think that either defense either the New England Patriots evens was more impressive that the same time. I thought. That it was just it was bad play on all across the board. Tom Brady didn't play well Jared Goff like he'd never even seen a football field before Sean McVeigh, which come to find out. Now, you see the video of the Showtime inside the NFL where he's basically worshiping Bill village on the field prior to the game like a little fan. Boy. I mean my goodness. This game was a snooze fest. I'm sorry in the Super Bowl. I don't need the explosion. That was last year Super Bowl between the eagles and the patriots. But can I get at least two touchdowns, please give me a break. I mean, this was everything in my opinion of the NFL doesn't want. Now, the NFL's going to say that it was tiger going into the fourth quarters of one score game, blah, blah, blah. It was boring. It was boring and like Bryan said for David everyone sits and watches football. Sometimes people don't watch any games all season. But they'll watch that one. That's a snooze game. That's a game that they say why did I waste my? Time in my opinion. There are some games that can lower people in to the fold. I think last year's game for the average every day. You know, I don't really follow football too much fan. They were intrigued by last year tons of offense up and down the field goes down to the last second trick plays. I mean it Nick foles catching a touchdown pass with the Phillies special. There was so much intrigue. And cool. This coyness also say that it was just an awesome game. And I like defense, but this game wasn't well played. I don't think I don't think it was. Well, played it all at the coaching on Bill checks part was absolutely phenomenal. It was out of this world. But for the regular fan that's just tuning into watch this game. They lost Viday loss years period. I'm gonna say they lost viewers. Brian you probably disagree as your face down there. I just think it was. I thought it was horrible. So I was boring commercial sucked. Halftime show sucked. Everything was off. Jeff. There's three amateur nights in this calendar. The. I amateur night is New Year's Eve. That's when the amateurs go out, the people that club all the time hate New Year's Eve. In fact, they stay home the other amateur night or the schlub that get their women, candy and flowers on Valentine's Day, only that's for mucks. If you just do that. You're not doing your job as a husband. You get your get your woman something on June seventeenth. Teeth. Not because the calendar says you're supposed to have homeworks is you're supposed to and third amateur night is the Super Bowl my problem with the people. And if you read my article this week amateur nights, huge Super Bowl, the people that say, oh, I'm just gonna watch it for the commercials. You said the commercials suck Jeff we still have NFL one hundred. So I was happy. But the people that are just there to just go to a party. I don't care if they're happy with the Super Bowl if they're there just to see a shirtless, Adam LeVine, then they're not there for football. So we don't let you go ahead and worship Adam LeVine somewhere else. I'm new purple edible concert good show. But my thing Jeff, I don't care about those people. It was a football game. You sit in best built Fiqh is a football genius. I don't care about anything else on his resume. This is the same guy that went eleven and five with Matt freaking castle. If that guy could do that. That this guy could do anything. He come -pletely ruined everything that Sean McVay had put together. I don't care if it was a fan boy at the beginning of the game. He was amazing and they won that game on defense, actually, the every piece of been stuff on Gilmore and that defense. So they went and won that game. I don't care Brady had a bad game. We celebrate a guy had a horrendous game back in two thousand six known as Benjamin Todd Rothlisberger one of the worst performances as a winning quarterback of all time that wasn't a great game. But as a Steeler fan was a great game. Because it's the first time they wanted twenty six year. So I don't care what the scoreboard says. I don't care if he didn't like the action down the stretch. It was still tie game. Anyone could have won it. Even though the Rams weren't in it because the game. You're right. The game was too big for Jared Goff. But for me, I was inner tained. Because he asked me this Brian. Let me ask you this. Did you seriously think the Rams at any chance to win in the fourth quarter? You know what? Yeah. You're lying. Early. Didn't do anything the entire game. It was called holding. But it was still called back. They he did nothing chance rally in running game going. They would have been fine. But after that penalty golf started. He started to feel it again. And that's what happened this should've woulda. There's no chance. I watched that game knowing four there was no chance of RAMSAR win that game and people talked about how Bill check should have gone for it on fourth down to go for the dagger kick the field who cares? It wouldn't have mattered. They could have been up by one. They could win the game nothing on a safety. There's no way that the Rams we're gonna come back. Dave chime in here. Give us your thoughts. Did you think in the fourth quarter? The Rams had any chance to win absolutely. That's. No. Here's why how many times have we seen this in the past? We saw this. We've we saw it in the past. But the sea hawks in the playoffs. We saw the past with the with the Broncos in the playoffs. Amazing defensive efforts mean nothing when the team all of a sudden can do something with five minutes left to the game. The Rams did have a chance honestly, eat they could have gone down and scored and tied it up at ten to ten I still and they could have won. But the reason I think that they weren't going to win because the Rams defense was on the field the entire game. There's no way that if it really came down to a shootout at the end if the Rams could all of a sudden woke up their offense. I still don't know that they could've put it off. Because the defense was dead. They had to play two thirds of the game. It felt like they were always on the field now for me as a fan, but debt still is a former coach I love looking at the offensive. Offensive line during the game. And this was a beautiful time to do that. I'm one of the very rare people. I don't care if everybody liked the game. I really don't me someone who appreciates the game of football and the art of the scheme of the block and everything else going on there. It was a great thing to watch. I mean watching how they dealt with Aaron Donald what they did with him. Anytime the Rams defense could scheme in a way to get him one on one. He just totally destroyed. The only thing was there was so many times he was getting double team that they couldn't get him on that one on one. If you just stared in watched Aaron Donald that entire game because he was on the field so much because the patriots always had the ball. It was a thing of beauty to see. It was it was phenomenal to watch the chess game going on in the trenches. And that's why like the game. I think what you are misconstruing with what I said was a could the Rams of tided of. Yes. Of course, they could have. But there was no lodge. Michael reason that I thought Jared Goff or as pours he played all game. And he looked awful the entire game. I can only think of maybe one pass to Brandon cokes where it actually looked in time in stride. It looked like we the Ramstein we had seen all season, and they hadn't been running the ball. And I understand that girlie broke off that nice run. It was called back to a hold and it was a fan of hold. But they hadn't run a consistently. They had done nothing ofensive Lii. And that's why when I saw that they had the and these before the turnover to Gilmore as they just don't have it. It just don't have it. A lot of that's due to Bill bell check and his defensive scheming which was. Is pretty remarkable. It was pretty remarkable. I will say this though, and you can go back and check the tapes, I've said it all throughout the playoffs. I felt the Rams in the saints for two teams that were trending the wrong way in the postseason that they weren't playing their best football. You could even say that the saints watch the NFC championship game. Drew Brees did not play a good game that game either. So I understand what you are saying and from a defensive standpoint, I guess when I think about defensive Super Bowls hate bring this up, but mainly when you watch the ravens against the giants back in what was that two thousand and one or is that two thousand correct? Okay. Those one right? If that was the you watch that I'm watching something special because I don't care you could hate the ravens you could hate Ray Lewis. You could hate all those guys. But man were they good and you and you saw them absolutely do enough on offense to win. I mean, I it's it's I guess I see your point. I do. I just thought that I guess maybe I expected better products. Maybe we've been spoiled last season's with some really good games last year Philly that was those a good game with the patriots. You're before that pagers come back down from twenty eight three and win those exciting moments. Those are there's more scoring I guess thirteen to three just doesn't do for me Brian while you're final thoughts. Just one quick question to the Rams do enough on defense to win that game. Our incident for you. Yes. That Rams defense was phenomenal as well. And I thought they came to play. So we had two great units on the field. The the patriots offense was just better than the Rams offense at this point. And they did create a turnover to if you will forget that was gonna throw something in there about that. Rams defense real quick is they'd started off not looking very good. They looked like the stage was too big for them. Then they got the interception from if they don't get that interception early. We might have been looking at thirty something to three game. Because the defense seemed like stage was too big. But they got that interception kinda woke him up a little bit too. Like, hey, this is how we play and then they played tough the rest of the game. Yes. Super Bowl fifty threes in the books everyone's going to debate whether good game bad game. Whatever the viewership was the lowest in the last ten years the lowest since the Steelers beat the cardinals some say, that's because of different ways of watching not everyone's watching television anymore. It doesn't really count for streaming, blah, blah, blah. I don't think the NFL's concern that I think at the same time, it should pique their interest and say. Well, what what did they says they can't people hate Cadel for everything? What's could else does to do in their teams out there playing the game slow scoring game defensive? It's not the prettiest. But you know, what is the product. And that's exactly what they have to deal with do an ask you guys. What your thoughts were? I think we can all agree that the NFL one hundred commercial was just phenomenal. I've watched it probably six or seven times on Twitter every time. I see on my feed. I watch it. I think it was awesome. I hate how people like there's some Steeler fans are saying why was juju in not into Neo Brown, and this that and the other. I don't care that was great. What were your thoughts on the extra stuff? I know Brian you just chastise anyone that says that they watch the commercials the Super Bowl for the commercials. But what were your thoughts on the commercials and the halftime show Brian commercials weren't the best? And the Bud Light game of thrones one got a lot of attention. But there wasn't really many commercials that maybe laugh out loud. Oude or about the NFL one hundred assumes that one came on and trumped everything in. There was nothing that was going to beat it. What about the halftime show? I liked to have time show. Because here's the thing. You have this was a tough halftime show this year because you head three axe big boy who is in Atlanta legend because he's a part of the group Outkast with entree three thousand which would have been awesome of he was out there. If you remember the song? Hey, y'all back from two thousand four I mean when you had a mullet, probably you're you're partying. But anyways, I mean. They were under fire. Also, Travis Scott, which I that wasn't my favorite performance. But that's not my Jonah. But those guys were under a lot of pressure because they agreed to perform it. I thought he looked ruined five has a lot of hits. I think Adam LeVine is a great performer. I think they definitely the women in in fact, my wife and her friends were typing to each other that they hope there's a wardrobe malfunction. Hoping that happened. You know, what I say this with a Star Trek and of hundred sexually. I hope there was one do because that was something to talk about it will be plopping in the wind. Lanta funny. How and I also. Right now. But I'm gonna get a Maryland to across my ads. Well, my cake, but. Just like be look they were under a lot of fire. They cancelled their press conference early on the week because they didn't want to the NFL cancelled it because they didn't want to go through stuff. I thought as far as pop music owes. It was enjoyable the drone thing was cool with all the words that and that was all Levine's doing. I thought it was a good show. Dave. Commercials were underwhelming this year. I actually missed the NFL one hundred commercial and had to rewind it to see it. And if you haven't seen the behind the scenes one that's about the kid. You watched that one too. I didn't watch one second the halftime show that was called get get the kids to bed. So I don't miss any football. So can't really comment on that. Well, in my opinion, you didn't miss much the halftime show. I guess I agree with Brian that I think that Adam LeVine revive have put on a great performance. I thought there song selection at all their catalog of hits was kind of some of the surprised they played. I guess I for me in recent in recent history, the gold standard for halftime shows was Bruno Mars, I thought Bruno Mars was absolutely phenomenal. And he had other artists as well. Believe it was red hot chili peppers. Bryant helped me out who else was with his son was with him to baby. And he's done it twice. He has he has. I thought that they really matched everything together. Well, he is in. I guess maybe I expect that type of performance. I thought lady Gaga did a good job when she was when she did the show. But it just seemed to disconnected to me when the other artists was big boy, whatever came out it just didn't flow. I didn't like it. And I I'm gonna quote, my daughter who my second oldest daughter who kept on saying, why is he taking off all his clothes started with the jacket, and he took the shirt off then he had the the tank top. And then the tank top because often why is he taking closing. I said, I don't know why. Because every red blooded American woman was that. We're like, ooh. Every guy was there. Like, hey, you like that say do hours after the game? So I think we all agree that the commercials. I was stunned, you know, as a health as a health guy, someone that's very conscious of health and nutrition and stuff like that Bud Light pumped in over one hundred million dollars in their commercials about their ingredients and bashing those with corn syrup like, wow, they're bringing some stuff that I've been I've if you follow this if you've known about this stuff for years, but they're bringing to the forefront. So I was happy with that. So we'll say that so leaving Super Bowl fifty three behind we go to Dave Scofield stack eek segment where he likes to quiz, Brian. I on various stats of I guess are. We talking tight ends. Are we gonna talk Eric Green back in the eighties for the Steelers here? What? Okay. Well before we do that. I'm going to say I don't have any retraction this week. I've learned to lessons doing this. First of all one, right? All your notes in the same notebook. So you don't miss up the forty seven forty three lions too. When you do write it down, take your time and right at neatly. So you can tell the difference between the three four. I mean, how hard is it? I mean, that's pretty bad you until three and four Dave real quick before you get started. Could I mention something? I watched the playback last week, and I thought you handled it very well. I know we gave you a lot of heck, and we're gonna continue to do that all police too. I got some heck on the play back when I was reading all the comments and one fella said, oh, no way. He's looking that stuff up. You guys could vote for me. Feeding you any of this before it happens. I know John stallworth of eighty four I know that stuff never looking. Never looking it up. I promise you. I would rather be wrong than sheet that well, I was only six so I don't remember it. Well, so. I'm not. Old. I was. Yeah. So we're we're going. We're not going to go strictly tight ends. What we're going to do is in honor of the greatest play by tight end this past season. We're going to stick to a very specific stat. What was the girth? Play by tight end this past season Nance McDonald's. Stiff, arm and tape Obama. Absolutely. The Vance McDonald stiff arm for a seventy five yard touchdown. So we are going to look at some Steeler history with seventy five yards or more touchdowns. Okay. First of all the Steelers had the most seventy five yard touchdown seventy five or more yard touchdown receptions. We're going with touchdown receptions, tight ends any receiver any any receiver. Any receiving touchdown. That went for seventy five yards or more Steelers lead the league with how many this year. Yes. Three three. No two. But do you think Brian to? Brian's on mute. You're right. I'll just say to you had the big one. Juju had to buy him self. What was the other one? Juju was the seventy five yarder. I play the game against Carolina. That's right died. The one the McDonald's seventy five yarder. We have the ninety seven yarder against against his set ember of his career, and we had the Antonio Brown's seventy eight yard touchdown against. Why did it just escaped me? I just I didn't write it. I would just remember an. You gotta remember that seventy yard touchdown against. Oh, it was in a win. I got it here. I'm black. Remember, all right. It was seventy five yards against. No. I was at that game. I would remember that one Jacksonville. That's what got him back in the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was. I knew it was it was an important game. I knew it was game they one. But I I was I was blanket on that one. I'm not going to any guest who had who had the second most seventy five yard touchdown this year receiving passion. Touchdown which team. Yeah. Kansas City Chiefs tyreek hill to be. It's not. I. I'll give you hint to two of their three were caught by tight end. Was AFC or NFC NFC the chiefs only had two this year. The Rams say Francisco, it would be the San Francisco forty Niners to them to George. As I got an SE tight end Kittle. I knew yet. It's bigger. I was. All right. Here's a pretty easy one. Who was the last Steelers tight end avatar down seventy five yards or more receiving? The last tight end. You mean other than Donald McDonnell Miller? There was heath Miller. It was in two thousand six and it was. Against miami. And thrown to hit thrown by early. That was the appendectomy game. That was the that was from Charlie back. I was at. Was at wasn't that borders return to Pittsburgh where he turned around to the stands that you love a or you love me wasn't that. That was. That was the first game that was the Super Bowl forty celebration the Smoot when he kissed our. That's right. It was what two years after that is when he came back as a dolphin. The coach of the dolphins. And that game was that the crimson tide. Eight hundred saving. Yep. And just so, you know, the last time before he Miller was a nineteen seventy-two having had that was. Larry brown. Gordon, Gravelle anybody else? Go ahead say I'm not going to even pronounce his name. Right. John making. Oh, yeah. That's right. Okay. Say yeah. He had a seventy yet. A seventy eight yard nineteen seventy two. Era. Green never got loose back in the nineties. Nope. Wow. That's the prize very athletic. So. Here's a good one. I think Brian will. No this one who was the last Steeler to catch a touchdown of seventy five yards or more. That was not a wide receiver or tight end. The last Cordell. He threw him. But he never caught one Mark Malone. That's the second one. I was gonna ask about the one before that Mark Malone caught one eighty one. That was remember how long it was. It was ninety. It was against the hawks ninety in Seattle from Terry Bradshaw. But there was one sense. Then that people probably forget about okay? It was in a loss in two thousand three in Baltimore. Caught by a defensive back. And thrown by punter. Josh Miller, Josh Miller to Chris hope. Eighty one. One eight that was the opener that year guess those the season opener. But I don't remember that. I just remember that game. I completely forgot about it until I toss all Statham like, oh, yeah. Yeah. That was when I forgot about any idea which Steeler receiver or which player caught the most touchdowns of seventy five yards or more. He has five and there are three of them with three. So if you if you if you have a guest, it's one of the ones with three I'll let you know. John stallworth stallworth did not even have to. Well, seventy five yards or more seventy five yards or more one other ones who has three is pretty easy because he had to this year juju because he has into ninety. Yep. Antonio Brown's probably up there Antonio Brown. He not he doesn't have even have three yet. Really? Yeah. We just counting regular season 'cause I swear SuperBowl. Because Kazuko or teen stallworth head that was going to ask you that later about the about when it came to playoffs that. Yes. In Super Bowl, I had Super Bowl thirteen seventy eight season without thirteen or or or did I miss it? I hear you. Yeah. He had one Dallas K was thirteen. So. I'm Brian muted himself again. Okay. So so has three. You gotta think of a deep guys. Guys as as recently that we're the ones that had three. Bryant would be there. Martavis Bryant had three. Lexi, thinking plex. Yeah. I don't think I don't think he was on the list at all if I have to look that up, and he'd never I don't think ever scored. Yeah. That was his thing. I wanna say Hines ward. But I got caught to me. He got. Biggest speedster of the mall. We had rental one trick combing Wallis, Mike Wallis. All of us had three Wallace had three, but we still haven't hit who had five, and that's because they had three of them. It nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Oh, Louie lips. Louis lips had five number eighty three as your Bryant each. Yeah. He had three of season two. Yep. Yep. So. So yes that one was up there. Also, and how many how many add per year we talked about the ones in the playoffs. So really, the only other thing I have to I could even possibly mentioned would be. That there were two there were two times at the Steelers had two of them in the same game. And they were not both by the same receiver. How about Bobby Shaw? Possibly be. You broke up. You said, Bobby, Bobby? Aw. Bobby shaw. But that wasn't in the same game. That was the same as double check on that for you. I'm pretty sure that was the same season but not the same game. So believe it or not the ones that I have are both from the sixties. We'll have I don't know that nineteen sixty five Gary lemon and Clinton Thomas. Oh, I was gonna say Linson never both over eighty one was eighty seven yards. One was eighty and then in nineteen sixty three red MAC, and buddy. Dial both of them over eighty yards. You're a big, buddy. Dial fan, Jeff, aren't you? I am. All right. It was Shaw. Was that when you look at Bobbi Shaw had one thousand or two thousand one I believe two thousand one December of two thousand gets the ravens that sounds right then Whitestone had a long one in ninety believe white stones ninety four yards. That was in ninety one. Yeah. That was. Yeah. That was eighty nine yards against India. Go. So just thought that was fun as a little tribute to the seventy five yard stiff arm. Vance mcdonald. Touchdown. So what is the greatest seventy five yard play in Steeler history. It doesn't have to be reception. Willie Parker run the CBO forty. Exactly, absolutely. My dad called that one. We're watching the game together. And he's like we're gonna come out of halftime, you're gonna see Willie Parker just bust out. And then boom there was what if there's someone that has a ringing endorsement for Allen fan. I could be getting the hall of fame beaten that play. Oh my goodness. It would be that play. Right. There's there you have it. That's Dave stat. Geeks segment. We always appreciate all the hard work. He does diving into this two ticks. And so now, let's move onto the next segment. Okay. Tight ends before we get talking about the two thousand and nineteen depth chart and it can change because there is a one key free agent in the stack. I want to ask you guys who's your favorite titan Steelers history, not named heath Miller, Dave will start with you. Not name Miller. Obviously, everyone of he everyone loved heeds Miller. So you can't pick. He'd Miller every favorite tight end in Steelers history. That's not number eighty three from Virginia. Wow. That's a c I mean air green was when I was younger that was I mean, I liked him. But I'll be I'm a really big fan of answering. Donald I really am you're up there though. I mean say that he's better than those. Ended in. It was I understand that. But I'm just saying there's okay goes a long way characters a real long, way and McDonald he has actually become my wife's favorite player. Right. Okay. Brian. What about you? You know, what I was going to go to the seventies? Because I love Randy Grossman, I love. Benny Cunningham, the late Benny Cunningham. But I'm gonna shock you on this, Mike malarkey. I forget people to play. It was the Steelers. I'm gonna have to go with a little Brunner action. I I was a big fan of Brunner good J Brunner. And I also loved Eric Green mainly because not to get into video game sidebar of the Dave. And I did one time when I had Sega Genesis I Joe Montana football. And those were the years where Eric Green was probably the most prolific offensive player for the Steelers on the game. And I used to rack up the points with them because he was tortured soul that guy is. But he was a tremendous challenge and some would say tremendous talent wasted. But you know, what let's talk about this upcoming season. Real quick. Go ahead. Ryan, Dave Jeffey got one wrong. What's that? Well, what was the titans name? Oh, it wasn't Jaber. I thought that was thinking of I was actually gonna say joke. I was gonna say Jeremy Tumen because. He had that impersonator. Remember, do you? Remember that guy that was going around like signing autographs here. Accent for babe. I am said Jeremy to into my brain was going with Jay. And then I said Brunner, and I was like is it his Jaber is mar at side. No. I was not not cross. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You're welcome. So I would mid my faults. And I I'm not perfect. But let's talk about this season. I think I want to get your take on this before we talk about specific players if there's one weakness on this offense or a position that could be improved upon drastically. Whether it's in free agency or the NFL draft. I'd say it's the tight end position, you agree or disagree, Brian. I kind of disagree because you put the two together you've got a thousand yard receiver. You've got good blockers. I'm not mad at him for Denver. But I like the hybrid of the van wall and the outlaw Jesse James. So they combined for one thousand yards is here. I believe if not that was nine hundred it was very close. Okay. Go ahead and get that Rothlisberger through for fifty. Ask me to just look that up later so but their production went down later in the season. I mean, the titan was not used as much, but it was still a very good deal. Yeah. What about you? Dave. I'm satisfied with what they have. If they kept it. But if that was I would say could upgrade at that position. If they really wanted to, but there's just so many positions that I think that needed more. So as long as you can. No. I'm just talking like, okay. I've seen mock drafts. It had this teachers taking tight end in the first round. I would say fine. But I think there's at least three positions that they need on defense that I would put a head of tight end. I would say offense ity tight end could be could be one that if they just chose to a major upgrade it. You're just going to bring in another person that similar to what they got. I don't think there's there's any reason to do it. Do we need? Do we need another another Jesse James in place of exhibit grumble? Do we do we need another Vance McDonald in place of that? I mean, if you're upgrading something, then I could definitely see it. But let me ask you this. Dave he said this earlier in the show your football guy. You like watching this stuff in the trenches used to coach it in terms of blocking. How would you rate? Vance McDonald and Jesse James just on a very basic. I don't need an af one ten scale. Just good not good, whatever that's really tough because I don't watch a lot of other tight ends blocking. Because I mainly focus on Steeler games. And I'm doing it. I would say all of them. I'm giving them. The most improved sticker because I think all three of them have really improved over the last season with their blocking and shockingly that grumble who couldn't block Seoul was then sometimes brought in specifically to block. So it's something we're all three of them have grown with. So you don't know how much of that was Mike munch working with them along with offense of line or or not. But if they keep improving like that I'm more than happy with that. If you can get a good tight end that can that can run the routes catch the ball into everything that you can teach block, then then you've really got something because they've all been able to learn to block better. Yeah. I think for me if they're going to upgrade tight end. It's not going to be traditional Jesse James style. Tight end is a blocker big body. You know can also run some rousing catch. If you're going to get a tight end that's going to be it's going to be someone of my opinion. It's going to be transformative to the offense going to be someone that is more straight line speed more of a receiving threat because let's be honest. They have grumble likely to come back. They have MacDonald back. They have some other guys in the practice squad that fit the Bill of guys they can go in set the edge block. But they don't have that one guy that's dynamic enough. Like a kid that we mentioned you can talk about even I hell I say with areas green if you weren't so injury prone, but that type of player can really cover up for some issues if into Neo Brown does leave, and we don't know if that's going to happen. But at the same time, if it does you could bring in a tight end, and you could say, well, this tight ends would really help us out in this case, Brian what are your thoughts on it? Well, back to that that comment about a thousand yards. That is correct one thousand in thirty three yards. Receptions in sixteen out of that duo. That's why I like it. And I don't think that Jesse James is going to command a lot from another team. I really don't think he's going to get much of a nod from another team. He is a hometown guy. I I kinda see that whole thing working and I look back to the Jacksonville game in the playoffs. When Vance McDonald had ten catches. And Ben finally got that report with them. I think that he is one of the tight ends that even if he was the number one guy all alone. I think he could probably put pretty close to those numbers. He if he was in there fulltime and not splitting time with Jesse. James? I think he could be an eight hundred thousand yard receiver with about seventy eighty balls. Okay. But do you see an upgrade as a necessity or maybe just okay? It's a luxury a luxury is a great way to put it. It's it would it would be a luxury. I love the holy various green idea that was going to be fantastic at when he was healthy that what half of a quarter was what it felt like it. You thought all what they brought him in for. Yeah. Natty? Yeah. So unfortunately, that's what how it worked. I don't wanna just keep on porn over. But there was something that I did forget to ask you guys. Because we're talking tight ends who led the Steelers in yards per reception this past season. I'm assuming it's tight end. Yup. That's why I say, it's I'm gonna go to limb here, and guess I say Jesse James Fanta more Jesse James was second on the team in yards per -ception of fourteen point one first team with yards perception because they don't count it. When you fumble at the end good. You're crippled balls three exactly. Is that he didn't say there was stipulates? How many catches? Six. The third. Most was Washington. When it came to yards per reception now Jesse James had the most yards per target on the on the on the team. I think staedtler that needs to be like baseball. You've got to have a number of that. You gotta have a number. I mean because you look at a guy like James Washington. He had sixteen catches but his targets thirty eight targets. Like I said last week. He'll how both him and Justin hunter had such terrible catch percentage. Just catch percentage of anyone that was targeted five times in the NFL was ten percent lower than anybody else in the league. Guy when he's down. Gosh. Okay. Sorry. Burger ended his career. And now, you're throwing dirt on his graves anyways. Let's talk about some free agency in that is one main free agent. That's Jesse James Jesse James is a pending on unrestricted free agent. And the question that everyone's asking is do the Steelers try to lock them up prior to free agency. Do they let him test the waters or do? They just let him go. Dave, if you're the demand making the call, you're Kevin Colbert and Mike Tomlin, what are you doing with Jesse James? You are with Jesse James. You are offering him something before he goes out the door. But you are also offering him something. To say we understand if you wanna test the waters and see what you can do there. I think there's he such a team player. And I think he wants to be in Pittsburgh. I think they need to show them that they would like the game here. But at the same you don't want to insult him. So it's so that's why you say this is what we'd like to offer you if you wanna if you wanna winter's numbers. Let's the years on the contract UV offering Jesse James. Mansi? I don't know. What is a good contract for? Number two tight end. I'd give him at least four years. Three or three with option for. And. You probably know better what where to fit in that fit into money wise. But you're giving him a deal. That's all we need to offer. I would basically look and see what most second-string tight ends, look and or make an offer him something comparable, Brian. What do you think? What are you doing? You know, what for me I love Jesse James? But he's the fat girl looking for a date for the parole. At this point. Sit down with him and said, hey, we'd love to keep this is the neighborhood. We're looking at re probably give you three years. Are you willing to live with this? You could become footaball. What do you think? And so at that point. See what if he wants to test? That's fine. I looked up from Walter football. I respect first free. Didn't they actually have Jesse James ranked as the fourth best free agent tight end? Detain classes at great. Well, and he rejuvenated his career in Indy. I think when if I'm looking to Jesse James, hey, look, man. Like what you all said. We'd like to have you wanna keep you. We're not going to break the Bank for you either. Because if you think that you can go out and draft another Jesse James in the middle rounds or maybe find undrafted free agent. They can do that. You can save yourself some money. I'd give them a three year deal. I'd say upgraded your paid about two million a season. We'll give you some signing. Bonuses. I'd love to see the Steelers kinda get with the times in terms of contracts and say, hey, Jesse. We wanna give you some incentive based contract in this dealers. Do not do that a lot at all if ever and if they do it. They don't make it public. They don't they're not big on incentives. I think that would be a perfect deal for guy. Jesse James, you know, he plays him and he snaps catch too many touchdowns. Get so many gets a certain number of yards in. He'll get those added. Bonuses onto his contract is not gonna. Necessarily dig a hole that they're gonna regret that they dug with him if he doesn't pan out. But I don't think Jesse James is going to be is gonna sudden in an offseason come back and be the super prolific tight end. He is what he is. He's durable. He's a good number two. So I think we all suggested they should bring him back. Now's Asia grumbles, restrict rights extract restricted free agent, not exclusive rights free agent, which basically means that the Steelers have reversed right to first refusal. And I don't think he's going to go anywhere thinks your we'll be back, and then who has the depth chart in front of them. About griddle. Only question with him is is what tender are they going to offer him? Well, if they don't they don't put a tender down. He becomes a unrestricted free agent think so bottom line is. It's the whatever. And and based I'm trying to make sure I have this, right? Brian will help me out. I'm sure Geoff Diehl problem to this. Well, is that based on what round tender you say that they are is how much then their contract would be whenever they sign it. So if you don't wanna pay him as much input a lower tender on them than if he goes inside somewhere else, you're going to be getting basically a lower round draft pick from that team. Yes. But you can also like let's say they give a tender. They can always still work out a new contract with him. If they don't like the pace up or whatever. But that's the tough thing to do as tough question to answer. We'll see how things pan out Brian. Go ahead and read off the rest of the depth chart there for the tight end. I apologize for my body. Faming comment. I saw Netflixing dumpling. Hey, we're all. Shapes and sizes. So I apologize. I was just trying to be funny you guys so. Look at everybody else. We have here. Remember cake McGee. Yeah. From the university of Florida. The guy had some talent. So he is still around. We have a guy from was going to say McGee was the guy that was supposed to push grumble for that last spot. Right. Yeah. And then he got hurt early really think he could because I've I'm anti X men after the the Denver game because he came out and said, look, I try to punish the guy. I could have scored easily, but I just wanted to punish him. That was McDonald's fault everyone talks about the beast of a stiff arm everyone wants to run people over instead of scored touchdown. But as Mike said. Looking for style points here. We're looking to score and he cost them that game. So he he just made the list when that happened. And when you have a guy like Jake McGee, if you have other talent on that team like a buck Hodges who was the kid from Virginia Tech with great hair. That guy was a fantastic player in training camp in he came in rather late. That's the guy you could look at two they have another guy Kevin Reiter from Youngstown state. He's a pine Richland guy. So I believe that's the pine Richland Rams if I'm not mistaken green and white. So that's the guy that they're bringing in that once again Youngstown state, and who was another young sound state player that almost made the team in nineteen sixty nine when a final cuts. Youngstown state paint win. Ed O'Neill, you might know him. And it's right for towns. Stayed one of the final cuts of the team just wanted to bring that up for fun. And we've got an English guy. We've got a Limy six nine Kristen Scotland Williamson we're number forty nine. Now there they brought him in as I forget exactly what the designation was. But he was the extra guy on the they can have an extra guy on the practice squad from overseas. And they're they're inviting him back this year, he won't get that designation. But this guy is a rugby player for the war sister workshop team or worse dister or however you pronounce it in England he is six nine. He's a, you know, I don't know if you've ever been around rugby players. Those guys are tough. So I can imagine this guy could catch a football. I mean, if he had a proper chance, you might have another guy like villa wave on your hands. Who knows they can come out of nowhere. We saw that with a guy from Kent state. There was a basketball player that ruined pits funnel floor chances back in two thousand two name was Antonio gates, and he's probably going to be in the hall of fame. Wasn't a football player. He was a basketball player, and he was huge. I gotta be honest. I think the only players that you just named off that have a legitimate shot at making the team, we'll say McGee and Hodges. I don't think any other tight ends their best hope especially the Englishman that you just talked about is to be on the practice squad into to be on the taxi squad would happen. So I think that on the overall list of Steelers team needs. I have the tight end position on it. Just not very high vacant keep Jesse James like Brian showed with the. Statistics. We'll see how things go. I think this yours tight in. It's not ideal. It's not glamorous on flashy. But ultimately get the job done. Now. Guys. Do an ask you before we get to our either or segment, which is everyone's favorite segment at least ours. Are you going to be watching football this weekend? The what is it Brian? The af the A F the alliance of American football. Yes into they're going to be playing Saturday. I'm not sure if they have games on Sunday. But on Saturday definitely playing I didn't know much. I didn't know much about this. I know the Brian is going to have an article published tomorrow or Friday, Simon Chester article published on her site today Thursday, and I was reading some of the rules. I can get down with some of these bills. There's no kickoffs. They're shortening the play clock. There's less time outs. And they have an extra official. That's kind of a. Guy judge. I think this is just strange enough that people watch. But it's close enough. It's not like XFL where they have two guys running in hitting each other for a football. They actually it's going to be looked like football. And they have a lot of former NFL players, but it's just gonna be a little bit different to see what things are like, maybe the NFL gets Margot, actually adapt. Some of these guys you're gonna watch or use going to maybe I'll watch pilots I've already adopted a team the San Diego fleet. Actually, Travis freidy ex Steeler draft pick is on that team. You know, I just have a thing for the city of San Diego. I'm just gonna watch. But right now the team to look out for the preseason favorite is are the Zona hotshots, and they will be wearing green gold and Aren if I'm not mistaken. So there's a teams to that already have two cities that already have. Teams. That's airasia. So Phoenix, I guess Atlanta the Atlanta legends. Then you have teams in locales that have have USFL teams have had world league teams like a San Antonio in Birmingham. And Memphis teams like that Orlando we'll have a team. So there's eight teams in total. City doesn't have a team anymore since the chargers left a couple years back. So they have shot at at football again too. So it's something to watch. I know my wife is going to be in the other room binge watching downton abbey. That's her newest thing. I'm gonna watch football. What about you? Dave, you gonna watch or not I've got to figure out what time games are. I'll check and see if the games are at a time that I can catch at least part of it just to see what it looks like I tell you what I'd like to see did you see the rule about what they're going to do in place of an onside kick. What is it? You have a fourth and twelve four and twelve that you can go for it. And if you convert you keep the ball 35-yard-line, Brian you probably know that looking into it. No that actually that role is new to me that there weren't kickoffs. I knew all the other roles, but I did not see that one. That's great. Because see that's always been the big question is the NFL on their way to to doing away with kickoffs. But if you do away the kickoff do away with the onside kick possibility, which is which is what you need if you're down by two scores. So this is something that's a little bit interesting. Don't offer a big fan of their overtime because it's basically similar to the high school over time. It's a Kansas City tie breaker to the ten yard line. But there's no kicks. You can't kick a field goal. You can't get an extra point got us court. Touchdown gotta go for two. But after one time of doing it. It's a tie. Both teams star the same score. They won't get a second one. I gotta be honest. If if I'm if I'm able to watch TV over the weekend, probably I'd probably more inclined to tune into the public beach golf tournaments. Af. But that's just me. I might like David check it out. See what it looks like? And maybe it's intriguing enough to keep my attention. I do think that the NFL would be well served to have some type of I wish one of these lease even the XFL maybe next year could be like a minor league system for the NFL. I think that'd be really smart. You can't always rely on college football to be the oh Endo in. So this would give guys don't get drafted. Don't make teams a place to go play work on their craft. I could maybe see being minor league hockey where each minor league team has is an affiliate with the professionals into this in this case, the NFL. So maybe af the San Diego, whatever's are affiliated with the Los Angeles Rams. And so the Los Angeles Rams can put players down there that team they can develop them there. And impossibly bring them up, and it would be a minor league system. Just baseball just like hockey. I think it would be good. The NFL seems resistant to that. I'm not sure why they haven't done anything like this NFL Europe. So we'll see the NFL responses to be interesting to see it's the af. The bigger fleet. Is that what it is? The iron sorry. One of the teams the iron which which one's that one. I believe it's Birmingham. I was going to get bringing Birmingham Vada guest. But it no. So I mean, it's it's going to be different enough. Just to maybe. That's the only way you're gonna get people to watch the football. After after the Super Bowl is you've got to do at least a little something different gimmicky to say, I wonder how this is really working out. So I love the US fell back. I was eleven and twelve Pittsburgh the number one pick. I still have my my Pittsburgh Muller t-shirt from back. Then I've, you know, I actually watched the XFL in this new version. I think is the old version gave was touchdown. Tommy Maddox, Tommy gun. But for me, the new version is going to be serious business. It's not gonna be screwing around like they did before they're actually trying to fix the mistakes. They made that ESPN thirty for thirty. We are the US fell is something that really sparked Vincic MandA. Series, feller XFL, the XFL, okay? Gina the exit 'cause you're also saying USFL that was yeah. That that was killed in the nineteen eighty five when they tried to go ahead with the NFL, and there's a certain owner at the time that we also know as the president of the United States currently that killed at league. Yeah. I was just trying to figure out what you were talking about USFL. And then you've mentioned Vincic, man. And I didn't know which one you were you were talking about I want to know is there any way we can get these guys that like that are on futures contracts like the like the Christian Scott Williamson's that would benefit from playing in this league right now. I agree. I think Jeff to Jeff basically said it with a minor league concept. But I mean, I mean, so these guys have a futures contract with the Steelers, which is nice, but. I know if they would get injured then they're cut, but this'll be a great situation for guys that even though they have a camp to go to next year to to get some playing time and experience that really could use. Well, let me tell you about a guy in the early two thousands that played for the Baltimore Ravens in NFL Europe for the Rhein Fire. His name was James Harrison. So I mean, but he was there as a Representative of the Baltimore Ravens. So it's been done in a way before they could send a few guys over there. But I like Jeff's idea about a whole minor league deal. I like your idea Dave about the future the future contract guys. Why not have a minor league system? And just one team. You don't need three or four teams. That should be interesting. We'll see we'll see what happens. We'll talk about next week. But now, let's get to our saving that everyone. Looks forward to the very end of the show are either were statement decided last week when a little long with this segment, and we each decided to have one either or will go round the horn will all ask an answer. I'm gonna go ahead and pass the baton to Dave go fuel to go first. Dave, what's your either? Or tonight, my either or is actually a football question. And that is. Tom Brady or Ben Rothlisberger. Who will be the first of those two quarterbacks to miss a regular season game. Brian good answers. If you're ready. Well, so my choices are TB twelve and Ben Roethlisberger. Yes. I'm gonna Ben Roethlisberger. I agree with that. Because Ben MRs for some weird stuff. Sometimes. Yes. Do you think that the raiders game? And you know, he was being chauffeured to third floor x Ray machine from nineteen seventy five. Commercials. So there you have that Brian. What's yours? You sure you want. You don't want to save my into the end. Okay. Let's say MO more motivational sports movie. Now, this might just be me because we could go a lot of different ways. I tried to stay out of football. Because I think a lot of us would naturally just take football. Rocky. Or miracle now miracle I have to say is one of my favorite movies of all time because I love hockey, and I love that story in that movies. Phenomenal and rocky is law. It's rocky so guys either or. Rocky or miracle. More inspirational sports movie, Dave. You're not gonna believe this. I've never watched the movie miracle. My watch. I've watched documentaries on the actual game program. Dave, we'll see you. Not actually watched the movie itself. I've I've seen all the background stories on the actual game and not the movie version of it. But believe it or not I would say out of those two choices even though I haven't seen the movie based on just the story alone. I would say I would say the Olympic hockey team. Okay. Miracle on ice nineteen eighty what about you Brian as much as I love the miracle on ice and Kurt. Russell luck. Rocky rocky rocky in. Here's the reason why they're laying in bed before the big fight. Tell you Adrian is just cuddling up to rocky these like, she's like you can't sleep. Like, I just don't wanna be another bump from the neighborhood. And if that doesn't get your right here. I don't know what that is the true underdog story that we've ever seen ended holds up Apollo creed. Was the champion. He was modeled off of Muhammed Ali at the time, and the my favorite line from rocky to was about that movie. And it's like I saw you beat this man like I never seen another man beat before. And the man just kept coming back. And for me that personifies how great that movie is if you're down if you're out if you're just another bum from the neighborhood, and yet next, you know, you could be heavyweight champion of the world. It's rocky. It's beautiful. It's American dream as I'm gonna go with me ical that it's not because I don't love rocky because Brian it says I do, but rocky one is not my favorite rocky movie. I have to say that the all have their own sparks. But there's there's something about the dumbest brings a tear violent. I watch it. Number two rocky to Adrian wakes up from the coma. And she says I want you to do something for me when and then the training. Montage music starts, and I feel like I could just go run through a wall. Wait, what's Mickey's next line? You just hear? Yes. Exactly that is the one of the greatest sports movie scenes, but in terms of the old movie inspirational island, go with miracle because that is a true story. That's what I was going to say about miracle is it true. And I thought that Kurt Russell's her Brooks was spot on. I've watched her Brooks any know about him. And I know he had a time with the penguins. And that's why I know about him. He nailed it. He nailed it. And even even his assistant, you know, it was just great Brian USA meals for you, go with your either or I love both movies. But I hate t teach their head Brian ears finish this up. All right, gentlemen. I'm inspired by something we talked about earlier, and I was talking about how much are wives loved watching. So let's talk about that. And I guarantee nine months from now there's going to be some Adam LeVine babies because of that performance. That's what it was. So let's take another name. Let's not take Adam. But let's go the next litter up be for berry. So here's the deal. The kids are grandma's gleam in your eye. She's she's feeling good to go to the CDs. You can pull out a berry, and you want the perfect soundtrack for a night of romance. Or you going berry white or you going berry Manilow like. Awful horrible. Honestly for the I'm probably not choosing either. But if I had to choose one over the other, I guess I would go very white not being very mandala fan. But I'm not. Yeah. That's just not my come saver Italy. But Dave what he used a? I think. Would it really be my choice or would it be? What would rather the mood? Yeah. But either way my wife is going to say what is this crap? So it wouldn't either one wouldn't we're I personally I would probably for that specific situation. Go with Barry white Brian Regan week in New England. I'm going Berryman alone. Boy. Absolutely love them. Whether it's whether he's singing about breakfast sandwich. Mcdonald's or whether he singing about love that was never meant to be. It's very mandala. Now, usually in that choice, I'm going Leno Richie, but I don't know to Lionel's. And so why Manilow just sounded right? We had to go double berry. I'm gonna pay for it. I'm actually going to spice up basically, something that was said in the live chat, and Brian the nineteen seventies called they went there question back. All right. Well, I think on very mandala is a good time to just call this show. It's a wrap. 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AWTY 62 - Yeehaw Kanto (Pokemon: Indigo League with Khoi Dao)

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AWTY 62 - Yeehaw Kanto (Pokemon: Indigo League with Khoi Dao)

"Sir Hello and welcome to our there yet. An exploration and education and Anna May. I'm your enemy idiot Patrick Dugan. I'm an anime expert. Dana Hollander and I'm Brendan McCarthy. Your anime research trapped in a Caputo Buddha costume. Don't king chain I will. Hey Yeah. Research is Is a funny way of saying you're going to the ferry convention convention. It is a fun way of saying it. That's why I say is impose shelly. Yeah a prehistoric not possibly. I don't know well let. Let's get some pokemon assistance to sort out. What type of furry? Yeah we have a guest this week you know him from the detective P Q game poke Amman masters and the new game. The after party we're joined by Dow is off. Is it safe from you to come out yet here. Now come on out is is the seasons no dougans been keeping me in his filing cabinet colored led lights hooked up to it to indicate indicates to me. Whether or not I can or cannot move or speak Just turn green so. I'm assuming typically as I'm recording. I need you to sit a silently as possible but I'm going to let you speak this time this time. Okay Oh my goodness this atmosphere. We've created uh-huh Schilling we're visual storytellers. Baby would be weird to have me on as a guest. If I wasn't you know allowed to articulate anything business like we were promised. We promise he's here he just he's totally he's giving the thumbs up throughout. So is our other guests. Rodney dangerfield running. Yeah Rodney Rodney. uh-huh why isn't he dead. Oh no this is a terrible way to find out. Move Past. We've facet gosh it back to POK Mon.. No it's a dangerous field field of coke on battle Hey Ah Shit oh my goodness well it. It's time both for Brendon to finally die. And talk about the long-awaited series we're we're we're going ultimate classic for the close out of our four kids marathon. We're going to go and watch Indigo League of the original original POK Mon.. Yeah Yea Yea Oh gee the good star to chip. Yeah this This is Ben Recommended by several people But it was sort of inevitable that we would get here so I don't have your names So thank you for suggesting it of course we are going to get to it a little But yeah where this is such a classic. Of course. We've all seen it but I want to touch into everyone's specific pokemon history. I as a child didn't understand it. They bought a Pokemon Moon when it came out and I tried to play it and still didn't quite understand it but boy do I. I love these little friends. I love him on. Purely aesthetical POKEMON. Oh Yeah I have a Pope Leo plenty I love. I love those boys. Can we all say what our favorite POK MON is. Two Minds Baldassare. I Love Boat Massari. Oh we did a poll recently on twitter. What about this? We did. So shouts out shouts out to Everybody that voted for bulbs or because Boldizsar one. If your favorite wasn't it's an another one lucar which was the other one that one or Lula would what I already forgot. Miodrag Dragon Shit didn't win. So Yeah Brendan. What what? What's your POK Mon.? History was their day one. I remember friend of mine visited. Ah Pokemon read because he wanted to play and I was like let me see. He's like no he wasn't my friend anymore. Spark the interest being denied access to it and assumes I could I got into it and just like way into it I think I skipped like Gen four and then maybe like six but otherwise I got a pretty good understanding of games shows unnecessary amount of furry firs ation of the. There's a specific term dench E or. Did you cheer Jink Jingo. Maybe where it's like turning the pointed to humanize versions of them and I know exactly we're talking about a So I'm teeth indicating about porn. We're always always like one or two steps away from Porno especially me. I'm not proud of it but Ginga to close. This took a drastic turn Matt. I was not liking fat to them. All uh-huh I work for Nintendo. I want to put this out there. It does something before working your your experience. Oh my goodness pokemon came on the scene when I was but a wee child and interestingly a week child who did not speak singlish so my yeah. My first experiences with POK MON was when I was still in When I only spoke French so I played pokemon and French French and I watched the French dub of the POKEMON anime? Oh Wow yeah yeah I mean you know I had a and I had a pretty as expected reaction from kid coolies. Should I get the edibles defied bobby. It was the game boy color and she's like no. You're masten them like okay but I wore her down. And she got me again boycotted for Christmas and I would proceed to get halfway through the game before. Losing my Gameboy on the train. That was like the worst of my life. If you'd still have maybe toy story and trying to find its way back. Maybe it's yes. Yeah Moss Gameboy yeah and the plaque is like some dumb ass kid lost this time. Gain delays what freaking loser. What about you Dugan Yeah as I've mentioned previously I didn't really grow up as a Nintendo kid as a Indoctrinated Sony Boy So I only I played. I watched the show. Of course growing up I have specific specific memories of watching the premiere of the DUB that is weirdly one of my first memories as being like. Oh Hey this new new show. It's called poke Amman. Okay so I remember watching it as it came out for the first time but for the Games when I was a freshman in college I played a read on an emulator and I still have yet to beat it. uh-huh leded full pokemon game. Hey so many things but yeah the switches. She's the first like console. I've had from Nintendo. I've had a Gameboy S. P. But I I at that point I was like. I don't know what this POK Mon thing is. It was a cartoon. I don't need to play the game to watch it. I don't have to put effort into it I already we know the story does. I don't need a unique experience with it personally bond with individual pokemon on my team. I look for whom but yeah I'm so certain shield which is about to come out as this episode airs is going to be the first first one I get and hopefully finish fingers crossed knock on Wood Jr.. Yeah like I did my chosen. I've just since I played on an emulator. Don't sue me Nintendo. But like I had it on a laptop so it was like bulky and I didn't have the convenience of like a DS or one of the hand held consoles where it was out on so so. This is going to be the first time I have that convenience NAN exciting. I remember being thrown in my house because my dad said I need to go outside and play more in the sunshine instead of being locked up room. so He'd locked me out of the House for six hours and I just sat on the car played poker game on. I'll show you you dad muscles L. Real drunk in Rhode Island and wonder Oh my cousins point Pokemon Mongo those love though. Yeah I can't wait until Pok Mon just exists because I feel like the POKEMON company will not rest until physical pok oakmont till the debris work in secret somewhere underneath Tokyo. Google alert for like when the POKEMON COMPANY BUYS UP STOCK DOC IN. I don't know biochemical engineering or something. A sign intendo. Twenty-three in me so they air. You're you're welcome on Mojo and also your DNA that's though but also what. If resident evil is just failed. Poke Amman experiments. It's real and they're just turn into monsters it all time off every video. Please don't give them more ideas. Yeah it's all well so we we picked a couple of select episodes because we know how this show starts we. We've we've we know what's up so we went through and pick some favorites both of the world in general and our personal picks worlds. So Yeah Coy Requested watching the episode where Brock gets his volt picks Any significance for that episode. For you yeah volt picks. That's cute as we didn't. We didn't get your favorite POK Mon.. Is that Volpe six. Okay let's before everybody rolls. It is my favorite. My favorite POK. Mon is mud Kip which I liked before before the mud me was okay. I'm sorry if I get very defensive about this but everybody was like. Oh you just like it because of the Mimi and no no no. You don't understand history here. Appoint playing pokemon Emerald was a very strategic thinker. Her and considered that mud kip evolved into poke him on that. It was a mutual electricity when against the ground type therefore reducing its weaknesses to just one type which the least damaging type so essentially market is the strongest starter in pokemon universe. Thus far I picked them to you get much shot up in their battle done. Yeah over. Yeah Oh my God so did like if you encounter a coup crest type poke your swampers dead looking. Yeah Yeah for you in a mud. Keeps a great. I liked him before it was cool. G GET AH audio might have peaked a little there when I know how understand so yeah I also didn't and say mine of course it's my boy farfetched because he's just a duck study. I am so excited for the new farfetched in in Shield or sword which trial. I think it's one of them yield. Yeah right right one do. It's an shield. It's shield because I remember noting really wanting surf etched but also really not wanting the weird shield dog legendary because that just looks like a dog got its head stuck in a thing the other one is like a bad ass wall all for the sort in its mouth which I don't know if it's a part of its body or if it found us our it's tone confused fetch is fighting type. It doesn't make sense anyway to go deep into the Games we need to talk about the show so yeah. We're going to touch on some classics. We're GONNA watch episodes twelve seventeen and twenty seven that is skurdal squad island of the giant. Poke Amman and the introduction of Bolton They got my team. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to fight. I'm ready to kill tyler murder with some. Poke Amman on Oh shit is it. Just all squirrels just all sorts. All skurdal Joshes but you can discern that there's a hierarchy based on the shape of very glasses yes we got general skurdal And the grunts. Yeah there's there's there's Communist skurdal heavens that Newbie Squirrel who just joined the team. But he's the the transition sunglasses inside regular glasses outside at sunglasses. He'll get there you'll get there. He'll learn his as he ages is The the shade will darken permanently But yeah let let's. Let's jump right in. We're we're starting out with our with our team team the square deal squad so it's Of course right off the bat we got. We got that I asked you it. It's a classic we it so good. It's like it's part of my workout mix for the gym. All right it takes. I like Pok Mon Joe Toe better than than the than the original opening. I know I'm probably GonNa get crucified for saying that. I am unfamiliar with that one really. Yeah I don't think I've seen much of any pokemon besides besides this Indigo League the sun and moon openings. Old Genuine Bob very good song. Yeah that sounds good anyway. Scoreless go but yeah so yeah we start out where We a series of episodes where all the Starters arturs joined the team so they asked just picked up Charm Mander and Boba sore. And now we get the introduction of Squirrel title so so our gang of ash misty and brock are walking into a town when they fall into a pit. It's Doug by the SKURDAL squad. A team of prankster squirrels. That are are running amok causing havoc raising. How long do you think it took? Does anybody turtles to dig that. Big asshole thirty seven minutes. Those shovels they had to shovels. They're not big enough to get out or like if they can produce like sufficient friction by spinning on their shelves. They you could probably just drill down. Get the dirt wet. So it's nice and easy to move pokemon logistics. That's why I'm here. So here's all about the world building. Interestingly the polkadot identifies turtle I mean skurdal as the turtle poke Amman which implies the existence of actual just normal regular turtles hurdles. Yeah world like they have turtles as a point of reference for SKURDAL's regular animals which is really Lille ceaseless. When they eat fish there'll be a crash? That's what if it's magic hard. No hello. This is an episode before Sandwich. James skipped sold. Imagine well at least we needed and he buys it in the scales are rock-hard even good as food poor magic but the polkadot says that piggy. Eat Magic hard don't they or like there's some very Hard beaks then. Maybe can't you just eat them. Whole bound probably put them on each and every other pok? Oh come on. Let's leave it at that chain. It's a wild west for the answer is don't think about got it what what does Oregon tastes like. Anyway it's just digital anyway we Nope we get their introduction introduction of skurdal as the Turtle Pokemon and they try to capture or ashes like fuck. Yeah gotTA steal one of these boys and Tries to have peaked. You fight it to Steal it but they all run away because they hear sirens from officer. Jenny Going up so we get officer Jenny. And we get the establishment that it's There's an officer Jennifer every town because they're all cousins Jenny. We have terrible parents. That's another great dogs. Think about it. I just don't think about it which officer Jenny which nurse joy by their hats different symbols the character designer. Didn't WanNa work that hard. Listen I got a Lotta polka monitor. All Yeah we're GONNA look similar. Please lease these book an idiot. Kids won't care but Jenny picks them up takes them into town down and warns them that the skurdal squad is made up of all deserted pokemon who were abandoned by their masters and they banded together and resorted to being pranksters because they all hate humans now which is relatable fair there yes and we are As they as the team leaves the police headquarters we see team. Rockets spying on them We we get we get our gay icons Jesse James US. It's using watching the show. Everyone to be ash gang. In hindsight everyone wants to be Jesse James what I wouldn't give their storyline watching it as an adult it just this works so well because they are the outcast. They're the losers they're like trying to make Papa team rocket proud also Zaba Arousa. James Comes from money doesn't he. He's filthy rich like he like. He's a rich kid so he's just doing this refund because he can and I think justice porous hell. Oh is she yeah. She grew up eating snow like she made like little rice cakes. That broke my heart. It's a real sad episode. Could Oh my God yeah pokemon get sad. She feels out of out of med school or something in school. She has some other going. Yeah she failed amount. We already have nurse joy. You can't be a medical professional like the one nurse Sir Sir but yeah. They're they're spying because they're plotting to steal Pika chew when they are surrounded by the swirl squad who wants. It's a steal their picnic steal picnic basket so they're They surround them. They a are they. Also fall in the conveniently. Placed pit got So they are captured and they say hey rather offend robbing us have out we rub these fucking children Let's let's band together. Also so isn't it's like another classic instance of my Jelly donuts. Jelly filled donuts. When they're obviously donning all of the J. Players I mean I like ah like the the line could have easily been adapted to just be ambiguous about whether foods were like? Oh they're eating our frigging food to call call attention to to what items classic four kids needing to relate it to American foods. They're like I'm tired of pizza and in tacos anything else. Oh No. These skurdal's are eating jelly doughnuts. And she says he's like we get Chinese food. Oh you're establishing China exist in the world they could have picked other. You don't even see it. You can just sit anything and but yet the SKURDAL squad doesn't trust their proposition because they were all abandoned by human so they don't trust them. Yeah so so Miao comes up with the plan that meow owns Jesse James and they are subservient South South So the Squirrel squad can trust the leader newsouth because math is a polka mom can talk. Yeah so We get we get them the the teaming up and the gang is out fishing but a squirrel. Yeah I don't no. The passage of time is weird because one of the skurdal squad is just hanging out in the rivard waiting to squirt them as their fishing Pika chewed tries to fight and the shocks everyone. Because they're all wet and in the fight. Pika Chu is knocked into the water where where he's Stabbed in the but by Goldfine nice and is knocked out. He's he's down for the count. I love the people get to the leader. Has the leader. Scott has the girl glasses but then all the other ones have done little round glasses and look like Paul Shaffer for David. LETTERMAN's Taisho sideshow. Just all Honorary Beatles but yeah the Skurdal squad captures choose them while peak. itchy was drowning. I guess so. They're all captured. They get lassoed and brought to a cave where meow meow confronts and says they're going to steal the peak achile who is now caged and passed out So ashes like. Hey you dude you gang of thugs this meow fucking sucks. Don't believe them but they're like no we'RE GOING TO TRUST THIS POK mon over human men so go to hell Ash. But as they're all captured PECA CHU is dying just chronic wounds dying. And they're like okay we gotta get him a super potion or he will be dead Let's if you want to steal a living picot you We got a we got to revive him so they don't trust ash but they say go. Get your medicine but if you're not back by noon the next day we're GONNA die misty's hair purple. Oh Man Yeah what a threat. You're GONNA save me. One Hundred Bucks said at their on he was on board with it. Like Oh fuck yeah punk ship docks. I don't need to go to scissors and get a makeover. So they ashrams away to the next town trips and falls because he's a dumb kid that's the best obstacle that could come up with over nothing upper. Yeah he gets the classic Rickety drawbridge which of course collapses and he falls in the water and also get stabbed by golden on and eventually Lee. He gets to the town of but is knocked out by his rival Gary leaving the shop slams the door in his face and he's out cold he's he's like knocked down for like twelve hours. It's the next day yeah. No what if this kid alleyway it was a baroness. Yeah let's leave this ten year old. Just dead on the store. Fine I mean it is the old West for some reason in this town and well Speaking of the old West when ash wakes up he wakes up to Jesse James. Just straight straight up armed robbery. Just they have guns. Why don't they ever use the gods instead of their poke him on because clearly a snake in the poison ball? Don't do anything. It's there was a canonical war lieutenant. Surge was only true at the very least the existence of guns implied applied. But they fight Kokomo on. It's like they give the Pokemon guns sure you you haven't seen anything until you've seen Gigli `push just down a group of Kabuga done tape to executory toward the there's no arms story So yeah they robbed the store and in typical anime fashion may just shout out their plan. Saying Yeah. We're GONNA use this to betray the skurdal squads. They'll give us all your flash lashed bombs And ashes like no. They're going to get double crossed. I got to immediately get back there. so he goes inside and and all the shopkeepers and people inside who just got robbed now outgun apparently they also have cuts that are packing they saw this is is this must be like rural just yeehaw fund. Is there going come on on with a gun I mean. Let's get surf etched evolved and see what that swords and there's Pokemon that are literal swords towards the airport. Where them on with guns? Where's the gun pokemon is there those are what is his tie? God bless toys cannons. Someone else has to have a gun. Who here hasn't gone? Raise your hand. Honestly I'm surprised. No one has just loaded cannon ball into a blast toys just like yeah just a propellant with water but the main thing is that the Canon ball that were firing got people or voltage into a blast. Though it's interesting comment what we're here with the quake pokemon. Oh come on hacks. This was also leaked about the canonical. But Oh yes. Oh Officer Jenny Saves this boy from being held up by a store. Full of people with gun would shoot this child. He gets the potion and officer surge. Any takes them back to the cave where he goes in through the secret side entrance conveniently in writing bridge. And they're like oh we'll just go around. It wasn't really a big factor. Oh the perfectly fine bridge. That doesn't collapse was ten feet down the road So they climb into the cave Everyone is outside because they're about to try to steal the Pika. Chew Jesse James Flyover with their MEA th it hot air balloon and they just start fucking bombing Bombing run on this skurdal squad. Yeah it is general bombed. Isn't it. Yeah they're like. Hey yeah flash bombs but they're just straight up explosives like Flash Bang like a blind blind them and run away but whatever Oh in the league pokemon sprites from way back of designs. They didn't use there's remedy gramma can't who evolves into the The octopus one. I forget but that was supposed to be like a handgun fish and octopus supposed to be like a tank so There would have been a canonical gun but they changed it. Because of the epidemic of gun violence in EBB. Interesting Americans can deal with Food being named but they can't it deal with the acknowledgement of a on that cheery now back to the bombing coming. That's involving children and Turtles Steals Pichu and they And hops back up in Ed balloon and everyone runs to the cave for cover but a poor skurdal get sucked on. Its back so aw became they can take pits. You can encourage water from thinking is internal Goddamn turtle couldn't grow your shell like thirty feet in the air to like it's been attack but just still laying flat on your back death but ash of course being a noble savior savior jumps over and covers the skurdal from bombing because Boy Flesh is a lot stronger than a turtle Shell So he absorbs the explosion and seeing the love of a human again. This is like okay. Now I'm going to choose to jump up and save you exactly now. He can jump and hold a full grown child over. Can't flip over but can throw a child and himself off from the back but yeah now now that they're bonded Ash Has Skurdal. Use his water gun to knock the balloon wound down and team rocket blasts off again and the squawk while gets government jobs as. Yeah Yeah. Yeah the bombs start a forest fire and The skurdal squad teams up and they put it out so officer Jenny a Them as town fire department squad. They get little jackets Komodo rooms but yeah so of the the leader now bonded with ashes going to join the team and that's that's the episode takes off. His sunglasses is our beautiful socialized actualized. Take off your glasses. Let down your hair. Your I really want. The leader of the squirrels squad ought to have a full back Tattoo on Shell. Yakuza leader off. It's so rad. I wonder if he passed on his glasses to another member of the escorial squad so they could be the leader. No because they go back in a later episode and they're just part of the fire department and when she gets real the don their glasses quast again so he's still got him That Oh shit. Yeah what if what if the SKURDAL squad had guns to focused on Pok Mon with guns guns taped to their shells. Could you imagine that was like the ultimate defense offense combination. Oh yeah that's true. See that's just them practicing for when they yes. Yeah I want to be able to. They're back playing with a fake sword. Work Sense man so so the moral of the episode is you can reduce Skurdal Street street. Gang violence with the universal jobs guarantee fire department. which apparently that town didn't have before? Yeah in this world. It's the pokemon Emerald new deal anyways. You Ah jump ahead to team. which is I'll of the giant pokemon? Excuse me and we got started on with another previous on. And it's the gang on a raft out in the middle of the ocean for some Goddamn reason and a swarm of Garretta's just start doing dragon dragon rage and signed him up. Hurry and launch them off. The Guy knows where which is very concerning if your tan or any other age. It's a very very big problem through a lot. I mean this is what happens when he cursed my house for Eternal Youth. He's got to enter this on his child body they get launched off and then they all wake up on a beach but ash finds out all of the spoken. Want on to which at this point. I don't remember what they are or we never see him in the subset which yeah he never pulls them out to be like. Hey who who is here. Who's roll-call I think one of them's menopause and I don't remember what the other one is? And then we cut to. We see Jesse James Stuck like waist-deep head down in the sands and face down ass up and think now. Jesus Christ we see a little crabby run over. And he's like hey these things he pokes moving by chance and just chops them in the legs and then runs off. Because CRABBIE's a little shit and I I love him and he's run regularly and they're missing their pokemon as well along with me Al and then they find ran a phone booth because it's ninety s and we had these back in the day and Throwing oh well we'll use this call the boss and then it cuts away. We see peaked. Chew Luckily being the only one out of its ball because the picture as able to release all the other out of their balls so we got to charm Andrew under bulbs or squared all the main ones. They're wandering around trying to figure out what happened where everyone is and they find a slow poke. Maybe we'll slow. Hey Hey where are we look at what's going on what's happening so we'll just gets up. Scoot bag a bit and it drops onto the water fishing and that's it I love this. I was smiling the whole time. 'cause they're just all talking to each other and they have subtitles all these pokemon apple all conversations. I love it must be common. They all understand each other slowcoaches running on his own time. He don't care he's got today's squirrel or just sit back vibe in on the beach dealing. Hey let's say bad. Just service city like a caveat et arbs. Open this boy. He's actually pretty mischievous. And Sassy ASEAN this one. This one's still gotta earn ashes. Still has his trust so I spoke of entering off. Now it's time and Charmaine Diseases. Jesus tail to guide them all with the light and suggesting like Oh maybe we got abandon maybe left and this is what I realize all the Pokemon Sir. All of ashes pokemon damaged goods. They all got baggage that quick. They'll be like no. You can go like like Super Ema. Oh Yeah I guess. I can't trust anybody. Well he's the one with the whips dark shoot them. Yeah and run then shoot us up with ECHINACEA. Coughing is now I can get myself get guys like Nah. I'll listen to you the fuck you know my dad Just because you speak English you speak good. Her doesn't mean you betterer Atkins in the coughing. Have like a a dumber more like like a simpleton vocabulary and the other like I like so articulate. Pika Chu is diverted averted folk. I dare say two words at most sentenced master. No no listen and yeah I can. I can coughing only obey one bad bitch and that's just the James whips out the there's just as bad POK mon just I bad masters Shit Damn. I love that I love it. Didn't really. They're acknowledging their own downfalls. They must have listened to and so they all group together and disagree. Like all right. We're not fighting we. Yeah why waste our energy so they settled. Ah Down. It startled campfire and a time out. Because he's being an asshole so they're all in different little fruits leaves and just having a little she'll time if adorable herbal loving picnic out screaming. Let me out I gotta get food or you stop being a Dick. He's ignoring. It's like all all right cool and then just eats like really close in front of them. I lost. He's such a savage and while there around the campfire here this rumbling and the ground shaking and they look over and you try and rival walking around. It's just like well fuck this. And they just all take off running and finally the introduction of Dina maxing. Oh my God I was just about to bring that up like is what would this be. The the the inspiration for this concept is just basically poke them on but bigger bigger so what everyone in the arena could see back got imagine being in the nose bleed sections of a stadium and they're fighting with an honest and just fuck me. Who is the thing? Come on there's so many buff pokemon on I could see give you much. Yeah I feel like one of the designers sitting at desks. And They had a Toilet Pee pee on their desk a toy Johnson on their desk and they're just like I can imagine this. This idea being pitched like all right. How about big POKEMON? Oh you mean like a new bigger book on no you don't unquote does is hurting existing Bergeman but we make them huge plan design work. We just make them it. Just large boys just circling big on the whiteboard over and over again. I think I think so. Yeah they start running from the right on to national gang that are running from giants. APP does escape from that and we Cutler Jesse James that are running from John Alturas. Everyone's having a good time getting that cardio and Jesse James Run into keep outside and knock themselves out of it because of the next day. So they've just been passed on this grass for hours again but we come back to the pokey gang who are eating at this. Little Food stands and slow there in like a little chef out the old talk Yawkey and Shit and just like what's happening happening Atkinson coughing or just crying. 'cause Bobo source suggested that they might have been abandoned like they were able to wrong. It's just real. It was a very and then it cuts to them all like rats around everyone in liberal sleeping together. Something that was just a dream. Boat like wasn't so everyone wakes up. And we see Jesse James Pass out from running signs still they wake up and then they run to the phone booth. They saw earlier and they call their boss who we don't know yet but it's a leader uh-huh team rockets. Giovanni if you play the Giovanni voice is distorted. Yeah this really crazy voice disorder which isn't necessary because we've never met Giovanni Amani up to this point so it's not like we recognize it anyway. It's not doctor claw from or Mr K.. Doctor Claw from Inspector Gadget. And it's just like this crazy voice changer and in our like hey boss. We're in trouble. But I are routine. And they do the whole T- rocket intro through the phone and they even make up a letter letter or out of the phone cord just like no no. I'm not dealing with this book. Hewitt hangs you call me collect you make me me pay for this call waste my time. No don't love your point fucking which I love. How little time bullshit Listen to the whole thing though. Yeah he said that he secretly loves it. That's what he that's why he waited for them to finish. He loves listening to it so they say like all right. Boss is going to help us new idea. We're just stay inside the phone booth and then we're going to pull ourselves in the phone booth with the phone cable to the phone company. 'cause so it's going to be running this phone line and as you know what that's clever like. That's not a bad idea. Especially if they think there's Gye pokemon out there so then we cut to everyone's looking for each other like different shots of a different dates looking for everyone and as Jesse James are pulling themselves with the phone booth they. CPU Chew and actually how. Now's our chance to jump. We got this topic to and they realized it was just far away and as it got closer gigantic JIM skills. That's not the biggest shoe. A God. An an icon good and we see ashes gang running from a giant chart and see the pokemon gang run into a giant the giant blast off in the distance. Okay Squirrel. You're you're related till we wanted to go along okay. How racist not all think words are related? He did my only brothers are the Squirrel Squirrel Squirrel squad brothers. My opinions my Bruce City Council to like the job last Lewis. He's just like hey. Bro Words up employees. They turned around. And just start shooting with water cannons item on Notre. No chill is absolutely nothing so as a running away hide and they see a giant Venus or walk by and they try it again where it's like table or you WanNa you wanNA give a shot. Both or just goes four Batman family. I'm an orphan. Sweet you draw alright right. But he's just Batman. I mean I love him. Though we get Jesse James by Jack Caputo tops at this point like this is a twenty seven or no absolutes seventeen. So they're whipping out a lot of big maple commodity and game. Paul come on really early. So this is a great teaser for the game and as a running away they run into a railroad cart because like oh great now we can get away from it and they take off the brakes and you're launching in the back towards the KUBOTA. They're just like a block but then there's a cable there's a keeble wrapped around the card for some reason and it gets is caught between the Cupola tops lights and trim and as they're flying back down the track traveler John Kapoor tops and does when we see gets. I'd like to ask the gang walking out some mountainside cliff for some reason now and they're just like Oh. Hey what's that big dust cloud and they see the caboose tops in the railcar. Say Oh there's GonNa be trouble right as they say that the cliff there on crumbles and they fall right into the cart with Jesse James and write as they do. They've run into the big issue again and I'm GonNa say peak cheaper now because it sounds like a big issue and I don't like that big peak I mean we. We don't know it's political. cleanings shouldn't be that big in that extremely me so now all the people are in the car. Yeah can't they lift up the break. That likes broke off when they released it and So the real court slide on the rails get to John pokemon being dragged behind it and as the going we see the Pokemon Gang Ping Choon them running from the giant evolutions Shinzo bomb blast leaves chart Venus or and they run along side the car energy. Oh everyone's caught up how convenient and if the but we can't the pokemon catches are just too far behind. Like how do we slow down. And then we see a just a big ASS loopy loop for a mine cart which makes zero sense in in any universe. It's silly so they go through the big loop-the-loop flip around and I guess that kills enough time for the game to run up to the car and catch up and they jump on and once everyone's in their Jesse James just sorta like narrating everything. I'm like. Well now what happens. Well the cables probably going to break and it does We're probably be launched into the air. And they do and then we're going to hit something. The ZAP does now when they fled their disasters realize like. ooh It's a machine. We didn't just kill legendary bird. This endangered specie. There's only one of its kind and ad then we're probably gonNA hit the water and they do and it's at this point after they hit the water that we see just going by just as Polka pokey islands on it and we hear a woman like on a loudspeaker giving torrance like all right. Everyone if you look down the right side of the book you'll see some giant. Don't worry though that are all machines. It's all uh-huh ruins is all distributed millions of dollars drain everything's ruins and that's what I get. Giovanni getting another call hearing about POLKA lands being destroyed. And he's he says I put millions into why you're era crime. Lord what is going to have one legitimate business that you can launder all the money through. I guess so I mean it makes sense but yeah so and then we just get to the next scene and it's gang running to a beach city so I said all worked out business. There were no consequences for leveling entire part of life to the beach. I'm Outta here. I'm go to Brazil Yeah Patrick how is your vacation. It was great I went to Disneyland. I fought all the president's residence uh-huh and then I went to the beach and went home. Also just such a wild idea for theme park of just like if you're not supposed to be around the Gye Pokemon if you're supposed to say in the BOOB. Why do they all have to be like they seem? They seem to be aware of their surroundings. When stuff changed it didn't they were on tracks and also completely hostile goers or is it supposed to be like zillow where they're supposed to find each other and that's like a show for the parliament because rats Jurassic Park created the things then it all went wrong we should have learned? I mean it seems to be an economy based on what is essentially dogfighting so one. That's a good point and then the episode ends with slow. Poke you know finishing his day. Efficient on on that little rock in the ocean lifts up his tail. and seeing. There's a big old clam monster on it. It's now he's pro. Yeah my favorite is we've seen any OB is glowing blinding light and the form changes and all this and this is is literally says slow poke when the tail stone the water listen up. It's like oh I guess. I'm a slow Bro. Now a single tier running down his cheek as he's like finally finally I'm a man to be by now. I can use to lake's four. This has a negative dilution. Yes it's Dover's walking walking. I Love Blade. It's a babe laid golden silver. We get the Kingston comes slow king and that's the only game that ever uses it and then he had a mega evolution is slow goes inside the shell goes around him upside down and again he becomes a big babe late. It's while Saddam. I I loved incredible. You know there's someone at the POKEMON company who was like all right. We can phase Lobo Consulting. No I refuse at any. He cost on keeping this dumb idiot in his game which would probably be. I'd be that person he's taking. I love him. There are other ping poke months no PINKUS. He's dumb as the last one all right. We the POLKA rap up. Oh I completely forgot to talk about the poker APP. I am so sorry because the show was on five days a week for four kids kids that are like hey. Let's do one hundred fifty in the Polka wrap in a segment of five so we ended up getting the exact same poker up. We got for the last episode episode as we did this because it was a ten of those later or no five later so convenient but he'll those appointing little louise's side but that's seventeen. Yeah so now jump on over to episode twenty seven. Let's talk about fashion So our gang is on scissors street. And it's a place Where all the latest pokemon fashion ashes and there are some POK Mon beauty parlours and they're there because brock wanted to go there because there are also POK mon breeders readers on Scissors Street and that's what brock wants to do? Yeah and they pass by a store that that hasn't are on it well. It's a salon and the advertisement is a coughing and check ins all dressed up and then inside the salon. It's called Salon Row K.. And surprise it's just seeing James Doing Pok Mon Fashion Holy Shit I just realize roquetas just rocket that said fancy realize target. Jai those are two different stores. We're going to exclusive club. I'm wondering about that. How many pretty successful businesses have Jesse James started as a disguise and then abandoned the media? Just retire I mean James's rich so he has all that investment capital from Daddy Thirst Daddy. I want to open another store. Names well this one stick. We'll see daddy at least for twenty two minutes. Are you ever GonNa come back and Mary. Just Jesse see bill no absolutely not Daddy So they're doing the POLKA fashion and the POKEMON that they're working on on. They see themselves in the mirror and they do not like it. The Russia was actually kind of cute. Though trio's ugly Shit Poor Doug Tria Korea so then meow is counting money and he's like they're spending. You're spending too much money on ads. We need so make revenue and it's just just like a weird part where they talk about money for like it goes on just a little too long. It was really strange talking about how to get their start up off the ground so they can immediately abandon it. Yeah and the misty. Like maybe I'll get in line And then Brooke Doc sees the store that he was looking for He's like nervous to go in and he doesn't want to open the door but then misty Nash. Just walk in there. Like what are you waiting for. I'm on Percy and there's there's a girl in there her name is suzy and she's massaging chancy Hansi and then the guy who it belongs to comes in and he's like where's my chancy. Oh you look beautiful. Chance he's is all shiny and sparkly and new Ireland. These throw away characters like we never sued. He was a good fellow. I love this guy And then they see a Vo pick sleeping on a chair he's very pretty boy And then misty and Nash go up to it and suzy's it's like oh Don't touch him though. Miss what in then picks them up Animals what I'm too busy touching animal animal. You just told me not to touch. And then he blasts her with fire because this particular picks does not like to be touched by strangers. Much much like a cat feel like most people don't like being touched by strangers. phileas common rule a speaker. You're actually when they're sleeping. He's never been to museum or Strip club. Look but don't touch your whole wow and then brock introduces introduces himself to Susie. And he's like all flustered because she's cute and also like the best breeder and He's like Dublin is words and ultimately he's like please be my teacher and he also says he introduces her to Asha musty of as the sensational susie of scissor shree. which is you know? Is the only reason. The localization team picked her name. Is Suzy just for that. Line career we gotta get one end for tomorrow on Alta Muscle. We gotta do some for Pokemon. So yeah he talks about her accolades and how well she does with her breathing. And Her vol- picks is like the perfect model of of of what she does And then they sit down and they have some tea together and she says that Peachy was really pretty. He has a shiny coat and She says Oh brocker you the one that prepares as food. And then they're like. Yeah he is. He's he's the Best Pokemon Cook. I Cook for Pokemon Shit. Yes and then there are some snacks for the POK. Mon Pichu is eating one. And then the Volpe's comes up and sniffs and then P Q feeds it one which is very cute. Good And Suzy surprise she's like Oh. Wow volpe's only eats the food I make for him. What did you make it brock? And he's like Yes yes I did. Oh yes mommy and then misty ask susie about this latest flashy poke him on fashion and she's like. Yeah but I don't really like it. Because it focuses on outside rather than the power of what's on the inside of your Pokemon And then Ashen misty. Get into an argument about that about what matters more misty decides to take side UK to the Salon. The end badly side deck is not he does not handle any situation. Well anything no. He just needs a confidence boost of a makeover. He's put some lipstick on that boy or punched in the head to unlock his psychic power to to the level of city open his third and then Susie says that ever since the Salon Open Open. She's been questioning techniques and then ash and Brocker know what you're doing is great. What's on the inside? Really is the most important important and that is a huge theme in this episode. Really don't stop talking. which is an important lesson? They're really just going at it But so they decide to give a lecture on Pokemon care to attract more customers and to do this she susie gives Piquiachu massage and while misty is at the salon. The team the team rocket salon. everybody leaves too suzy's store and she has ash demonstrate massaging Pika choose electric sax on his cheeks his sweet little cheeks. I like to call the backs. I mean trick sex the electric sex. She also emphasizes that communication between poke him on a master's very important especially when you're massaging electric sacks from saks. The little balls in it's stored in the stored in the cheeks back with team rocket. I started the baseball commit. But you got their weird Christie was usually blue back team rocket. They're working on a poor squirrel. That has a wig gone. I'm sorry interview. These great and all this squirrel is gorgeous. I have the portal with the human wig. I love it. It's such luscious hair. Roses painted on the Shell. I is cute if it was just the roses. It'd be like a door bubble So they only have one customer waiting and it's misty inside Iraq and she somehow misty doesn't recognize them But they recognize her and they give her a makeover instead of sitek chicks pre cute. She's in some fashion And then Seattle blows their cover because again missed. He does not recognize them as he's like. What are you guys doing? It's the classic Clark. Kent if yeah glasses and meow meow is like what are you doing you should be should be grilling her about peak at you. Whereas the Pika Chew and that's when their cover is blown because there's only one in the whole world? PT Eh. Oh note the music. That's playing in Jesse James's shop the exact same music that plays during the look at tongue mini any game in pokemon stadium for sixty four. That's lodge into my brain but yeah what a reach. Yeah but so misty needs help so sidewalk runs back too. Suzy's place to warn them about what's going on And then they all run to to the Salon and the susie yells at team rocket about pokemon beauty. And it's the beauty that inside that's inside that counts again Once more in the meows just tells them what the plan was for the Salon. Make money and steal rare pokomo which is not great business practice clientele no people notice. It's about the return customers. They can't return if you steal them exactly. And then they're like if you give us your P.. Shoe will give you misty. And then Asha brocker like no. Let's fight but what if what if no thanks And then team rocket a presses a button and there was a battle stage built in their salon DU their intro and Jesse dress in a very princely sleep outfit and she looks amazing. Big Revolutionary Girl Tuna Vibes tenor a Tunisia. ATTUNING attune UNIA. It's been a long day and then James's dressed as a princess subverting gender roles as they always have been pretty good for the nineties. Yeah yeah it. It's never like ha ha these are these are idiots who are addressing lake girls and guys but wrong. They're like yeah we just rock these looks we just happen to be evil. This is just fashion. Baby there is a one up super banned from the US. Yeah Yeah those weird one that that is there's too much. Td's not in my Christian dogfighting in uh of saying surrender now or prepare to fight. They say surrender your taster. Prepare to fight twist on the song and then Dan they're pokemon come out and they're all dressed up still peekapoos ready to fight. Because he's all refreshed from the size and then peak. Get you hit them with thunder thunder thunder shock. It was thunder. I told you I didn't really play the game doesn't have any damage just paralyzed stupid. Well God njit away. Wow show I mean I can go. You know. I didn't take on your episode. Thunder shock is actually it's like ineffective and it seems like it's because of their clothes. It's a little unclear. They don't really talk about it And then coughing hits Pichu Angie. Oh Dude Gio dude is also there. The dude he He hits him in the face a slow and then susie steps in with Vol- picks to finish the fight fight and they argue more about inside versus outside and Volpe's hits them with a fire spin and it super effective and they're blasting gough again and then I wrote I wrote down. The quote acute exterior hides the Polka months true strength and then get shown like all the people in the crowd are taking the makeup off of their poke him on taking. They're cute stuff. There's a Paris with a foreign king crowned and I loved regally Shit and Paris deserves a little attention before that the how sad we to roof ride. And then they're back at suzy as you shop. And she says that They're grateful to them for helping her gain confidence in her techniques and praises brock on his composure. Hosur in battle even though he didn't do anything he did a seismic tossed that didn't work and and then she makes the decision to just abandon her business and also go on her own pokemon journey but without her. Poke Amman Volpe fix this is when she decides to give her picks to brock because she noticed that he is the only person that Volpe has been comfortable with other within her and he's on his way to be in a great poke him on breeder and then we see everyone chasing team rocket out of town owned l.. Episode Twenty Seven. I'm looking up at suzy. Ever appears again in the show. Because it's just like you you can take care of my pokemon. I'll get back to one day. And then she just never comes back. She died two days later many abandoned. Poke Him I'm on in the show. The Squirrel squad. She fell once pit traps and just died in their exposure. Oh my God yeah the Skurdal squad Doug Doug and then forgot about it but now they're fighting fires they don't check them anymore but yeah we we. We got some selects but by this this is it hits as good as it used to. Yeah yeah there's some from the Jelly donuts. Just the nonsense of Jesse James Anxious Boring. I is fun. I was really smiling the whole time. I Love Jesse and James I love I love it all. I love the cute cute babies. I love the the villains knowing now. It's all good talk Koi. How're you feeling revisiting? This this classic pretty good. I can't I can't stop thinking about. Did you know that VOLPE initially had a pre evolutionary for no. Yes that's our lead. Yeah you're just a smaller recuiter volpe. Six they get cuter okay so like in Japanese of all picks and Nine tails is there. Names literally translated six tales and nine tails and there was another one called three tails off at three and it was just smaller Mahler and looked like a little baby and then the developers like Nah. Let's make an ice-cream pokemon instead how about literal keys literally. Let's throw some straight up garbage. Yeah how about a bag bag of trash instead. Pig Shop Jimmy more trash. There's there's one of those leaked spice. There's an evolutionary line. That was just abandon completely but it's like a little electric tiger and I will never forgive them for not giving me now. Tiger boy cute. It did make a tiger legendary though that was a elliott yeah walks. There's not the same. This one's like a perfect sphere. Leo Higher what else. Oh there's a pre evolutionary form for zoo matt in the League sprites. It's just a ball with a single tooth and ways. I love that it can't hurt. Anybody has no other. TV can't effectively bite anything. It used to super ineffective splash high. Well do we just going to be sure. Yeah we have to say. But of course I'm on-board baby spoke him on his book yet classic. Of course I did watch it as a kid. If I was a kid did I. If I could go back in time the first thing I would do would be watch more pokemon. So of course I'm on-board the good ship and son Muna Peres really good in a number wait. Animation storyline actually Windsor Pokemon. A league so sounds sounds like the movie. It's also on that flicks wink sponsor easy to Walk Daddy Net flicks give us that money. Giving the body lease he's will sell out good. Rod was a good way to top off the four kids Thaad. Yes I'm happy. We ended on a good note. We needed a ringer. Because Oh boy we've watched some garbage whole man this this marathon was a real gamble but thank you so much for joining US coy This good run fun time so yet get where. Where can people find you online Koi? Oh I'm I'm mostly just Dick around on twitter. I'm at Koi. Dow with three Os. That's at K H D a o o o those until you find it and after party is fresh fresh out at at this point right. Yeah it's out on on the EPA game store and it's on. ps four and xbox. Yes and it's coming to the switch in a couple months so if you're someone like switch should hold out for it or just by multiple copies. I Dunno whatever you want to do. I'm I'm not sure that that's fine. Your Dad when you when you're done with the new pokemon you can you can hop onto after party. It'll be the poke Amman's after party. Do Their it works. It's just it's just Mr Mom at the bar with a glass of Scotch is like He didn't do it anymore. We can't talk so he's just like Mr. My Mister Mind. If if you have a show now that we're out of four kids marathon where we're actually going to watch stuff you send us now. You did so yeah. You can send anime recommendations to are we there yet at gmail.com or reach out to us on social media at our Riveria on twitter and instagram. You can find me twitter and Instagram at Mr Patrick Dugan. You can find me on instagram. At Queen Period we Abhu and on twitter at Queen underscore we blue and queen underscore. We Abhu art can find me on twitter. ABT S Brendan. It stands for almost better than silence and thank you Camille Meal Rulli for artwork. And thank you to Louis Zong for the use of our theme song stories off the album beats. You can find all of Louise Music at Louise Dot Band Camp Dot Com. Thank you and next week. We're launching. Oh Yeah I get to pick. It's the first one read the first one of the four kids thing to pick. I picked something that sounds chill literally from the toy title. We're we're going to watch the first three episodes of laid back camp. ooh Nice Straight win streak vibe and all all all through camp yeah all right well. We'll join US next week as we learn to live with anime. The loss

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Hour 2: Stugotz's Wife

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Terms and conditions. Apply and offers are subject to change without notice. Visit light stream dot com slash lebatardshow. For more information. One of the cool things to happen with the transaction yesterday is joining and this is fun of Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry. They are really close friends. They are brother basically, those two from their time at LSU into the idea that now both of them will be young skill position people playing with a young quarterback. It's not just that the Browns think they're back. The Browns are coming back with young people in attitude as well to God's because their quarterback doesn't know bleeps given from that quarterback. And so it's not just that. They're more interesting than they were more talented. They've got a general manager willing to go out and make bold moves on top of everything else. They've got personality and you have to assume because of the bond between them they're going to be rooting for each other's success. So it's. Not going to be such a problem. If the ball is going to someone other than Odell back, and they're not that close. Nobody's. I think so nobody's that close. You're right about that. Dan. No. Some sort of altering queuing always used to say about players in the NBA, and it would be the same with wide receivers. It's all about timing touches Dion Sanders. I saw an interview with him, and everyone was sort of praising the strength of the friendship between Landry and Odell Beckham. I guess Dion Sanders has the same cut of jib. And he was saying, well, we'll see exactly how close a friends. They are. Yeah. We will. We will find out especially if all of a sudden Jarvis lenders not the one who's always getting thrown to because he's always throwing to Odell Beckham. Can we get Abby on the phone because evidently stugatz? Spent the morning bothering his wife and his children. He's been up since four AM. He got the news after midnight. Stan is this how you were when you acquired the actual Blake Griffin when you acquired him as coach where your pacing around the house, and and you can't sleep at night because you made a big acquisition. No, actually that was one of the better nights to sleep. You've done something you were happy about it. You went to sleep. Certainly I wouldn't bother my wife with that. I mean staying I've had precious few days where I've had anything to be happy about since we've been married outside of her marriage. Of course, I have precious few days shave right there. Do you like that? So that I've had precious and listen, she roots for me, she knows how deeply I care about this team. She knows that I still care about my New York sports teams at so there was a part of her that was very happy. Just not happy at four AM this morning who have you bothered more so far because of this abbey or Adam gates? Oh, I mean gays is he's gone silent. On me. He's been texting gaze to the bell emoji for for many weeks now and this morning now abbey's been sick. Okay. Abby covered in blankets. She's been shivering Stu gods came back from this vacation slash work adventure where he charged everything. The ESPN after spending five minutes on the jump haven't done that yet. Thanks for the reminder, and and they both came back sick. So we gotta. Get a hold of what you've been annoying your family all morning. You were just you were telling me during the break that you woke your daughter's up with a tiny liberty bell. I was standing outside their room with a tiny mini miniature liberty bell. And so usually get up around seven I was out there at six fifty five tailgating, and I was just waiting and I wanted to Rachel's room now Rachel's a big jet fit. She's very happy. She's be tracking. This Levy on bell news. I mean, she gives me update. She has more accurate information than I have at red shot saying much given your first hour on the show today. You ain't kidding at. So I just rang the bell. Rachel got right at a bed. She knew what that match gave me a big hug, and she said daddy, we're going to check gain next year. And I said, yes, we are unless they start oh in three, and then we're not going any of these. Then I wanted to Emma's room into the same thing. And she told me to get the bleep out of a room. Yeah. As you want nothing to do with it. You don't care. She a like football. She dances. She wants nothing to do with this and doesn't care that daddy was happy for five seconds. How do you think? Bill. Bella check, seriously, STAN given his domination of that sport. When he hears the AFC east has been as incompetent the things they're in. There is in sports after the patriots for the last. I don't know seventeen years. The jets had a little run in there that that helped Rex Ryan for a couple of years. But even those were tendon six teams, this has been some bad football in this division. When the news gets to Barbados between dives off of his boat. The jets have gotten lazy on bell. Stan. Honestly, what do you think? The honest reaction of Bill Belichick is given that he sits out all of these free agent frenzy. Yeah. I would think he was, you know, somewhat interested, but I would say on the continuum probably. Leaned a little closer to apathy, then than fear. Do you think even knows yet? I bet he doesn't know I feel like he's not going to get any of this news until two or three weeks from now. He's like, oh, that's what happened. All right here. We go. I with the jet show up. They got Le vian. He's worried about the Browns for the love of. Hey, remember, those reports at the patriots were in and having conversations about Odell Beckham he values Odell Beckham even at this price. He's he's a little worried. He's a little worried. I'll tell you that don't think he's worried at all. A little bit little bit concern. I'm going to go ahead and condemn this. I'm gonna go ahead and say this, and I think I will be imperiously backed up by all of the numbers. The thing that has least concerned Bill Belichick the last twenty years in the entire world is the Cleveland Browns like of all the concerns in his life. The least is right there with your team. The rest of the AFC is a close checks only failure is this the coach in your city. Yeah. I will have you know, that historically since I reentered the league play the patriots stuff. I play 'em tough. I think what does that mean? Whole McCoy beat him once though the dolphins the dolphins planet tough something to hang your hat on is not something hang your hat on. Why are we hanging the hat on that? And we and went into Foxborough and almost pulled it off or was that Jason Campbell. Who cares? Play 'em tough. Billy, Chris, ROY. When you heard the news that the dolphins counter on Odell Beckham and lady on bell was resigning. Devante parker. How did that? When we go over there guys. I drank. That's when I knew we were tanking. I was like, Yep. They're definitely thanking. You guys are so broken by the throat. We've got just a division in this room stand. I don't know what to do about it where ROY and Billy and Chris are crestfallen and Mike Ryan is hopped up on electric city and red bull and swagger and Stu gods is all excited because he's won the free agent transaction of of the night. It's because the dolphins have signed Dwayne Allen. And devante Parker. That's why I look at Ha's. It Suns you've signed Wayne Allyn and Eric Rowe to former patriots, you're making them weaker. Great. I know that's a good take on that got Brady. Yeah. There's that. And and Brady's got some sort of anti-aging thing. And you you just lost Cam wake. Who is like the only person that can affect Tom Brady. Thank you for to though. I mean, hey. Tanking for two already. We haven't even gone to the organized team activities, and we're tanking thanking for TOA. No, get out by goodbye. Geico presents unhelpful home improvement. How To's a slippery bathroom floor can result in expensive hospital bills? So today, I'll show you how to cook. In a serious fall by filling your bathroom with thousands of plastic balls. Just now a piece of plywood across the doorway and dump in two thousand multicolored plastic balls, you could try to protect yourself with a bathroom full of plastic balls or you could get liability coverage through the Geico insurance agency. Visit Geico dot com and see how a forcible renter's insurance can be done. Libertad? He referred to the yellow sauce at a botchy restaurant as young young sauce. If these seven percent of the audience said, no still stugatz. You go ginger ginger ginger, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, or yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, thirty eight percent of the audience said, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Do they get three yum, yum sauces? They ditch the ginger get to yum, yum with an additional yum, yum, second-place was ginger, yum, yum that. Chris earlier, no one goes ginger ginger. Eighteen percent of the audience goes ginger ginger and eighteen percent of the audience also goes, yum, yum, yum, yum. But the these live at our show with stugatz on ESPN radio. The director of that Richard Pryor documentary is gonna join us in fifteen minutes. And lest you think that FBI agents were wasting their time wiretapping the LSU basketball coach, they recently morning rated guns drawn the home of Felicity Huffman, the desperate housewives. So we'll get to that story. Withstand Van Gundy. It's a great scandal where the guns necessary. I don't think. So. No, so, but before we do any of that, Stu gods and Mike Ryan have the volume on obnoxious turned up to ten and poor Abby this Saint Mary to stugatz. You can check her out on Thursdays. I'm gonna go hunt starring on stupidity. She's sick. She's not feeling. Well, she's been Shiva. Under covers Abby just explained to me. What happened this morning with your husband? And just how awful it was. And I mean, I I don't even know if I could put it into words, but basically around four fifty AM I hear a bell ringing and walking around the house. They got him. They got him. And then all like he's saying vomiting, and I don't know what he was talking about. A little frisky to. Oh, you were literally pushing the off they got a they got up. I thought it was like a robbery like I don't even know what was going on like a criminal. How annoyed were your daughters were they also awaken this way? Yeah. That'd be made to tried it. I have to like admit that she thought it was the best thing ever. She was upset. She felt bad that he woke the rest of us up. 'cause she's the only one that actually cares. Was my. She Kirsten me cursed at me. She's like two more hours to. So how just before we let you go. How much miniature liberty bell was there in your for fifty to five AM out? Well, I mean, we are all screaming yelling what's going on. So not not much. But the fact that it is even was for a half a second was more than we can all KENDALL. I'm sorry. You're married him. Thank you for being. Thank you for. What did you say on with us? Heavy feel better. Please we got Levy unbalanced. Stupidity. Thursdays at noon. Sometimes so staying what did you make of this whole college entrance exam nonsense? It's amazing to me ensnared in the FBI's tangled web, Felicity Huffman and full house member. I mean one thing that we learned here and not to interrupt, but you're doing it. I'm doing it. We were talking about why does he care about LSU wiretapping? I think the logical conclusion was tax dollars. This is a twenty five million dollar scheme by this guy. So that's twenty five million untaxed dollars. You would assume. Yeah. And the fraud to colleges I mean, remember now this the NCAA basketball recruiting cases that are going on whether they should be going on or not. But they're going on. It's all based on fraud. And they're doing the same thing here. Indicting these people for fraud. And look there's there's three. Things going on. I mean, the parents who are willing to pay this money, I guess simply to impress everyone. With the fact that their kids are going to Yale or Stanford, the coaches who not only unethically took the money, but also just surrendered spots on their teams. I mean, basically that could go to recruited athletes, which would make their teams better. They were willing to give those up in screw over their teams for this. And then the third thing is, and it sort of brings it out. There was an article column David Leonhardt in the New York Times today saying that the big problem, and they had just completed a study is that athletes, even at division three institutions. I was surprised are thirty percent more likely to be admitted with the same grades SAT scores as other students, and that's why scandals like this scandal came about because that's how you can get kids. Into school is to simply say their athletes. We're not talking design Williamson's of the world that gets you into the NCAA tournament and bring your school a lot of publicity. We're talking about kids at Williams College in Massachusetts, a really good academic school division three same idea. And so there's this whole problem of how big a boost we give athletes to get into schools, and how unfair that is to other students. I love some of the details in this story. My favorite so far. Is that the kids don't seem to be that interested in college? Like, they want to just be sort of a one of them wants to just be an influence doesn't have time for college. While the mother is trying to buy her into school. So what was your favorite detail from what you've read STAN? I mean to me it was the. It's the pictures. They took you know, to to basically show my daughter. I mean, they somebody put them in a crew boat because they were saying she was going to school as a Cox in on on on the crew team. And then somebody supposedly was crop and pictures of pole-vaulters, and some of these things is just it's hilarious. You know that? It's a Larry is put it's also pretty sad that people would go to these links to get their kids into these squads to God's word stomping around here yesterday. And he hates when I do this because he's like these people are awful this. And that and I'm like, you would do exactly the same thing if you had those kinds of monies in power, probably. Yeah. I mean now I've had to rethink everything and have to rethink how I'm going to get my kids into school crazy Bod. I'm glad this story broke. Because now, I know I can't do when I was about the. But it does bring up, you know, I mean to where it's unfair. So Stu guts was in LA last week. And we were talking in his daughter was looking at schools for lacrosse and to think that somebody out there who's not even lacrosse player could go and take one of those spots. It's a celebrity unfair. Now, if you're eating because Dan, I'm telling you, you'll see kids on the cross benches who never take these wet shirt off the jacket off their there. And you're wondering why are they there? Why are they going through all this to never play in a game? And I've seen them there for years. They're at the very end of the bench. They have no chance of going in. And I wonder if they ever played lacrosse and all you've been wondering about we're finding out now. Maybe the answer's no. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. How like I don't know which sports this extends out to. I don't know where it ends its I gotta tell you as someone. Stands right. That has a daughter. That's doing it the right way who's trying to get to college. And she's good enough to play lacrosse division one. If she doesn't have that opportunity because someone paid a half million dollars to get their kid into college. I am going to be outraged. Even while admitting I would've done the same thing. I paying six hundred thousand dollars donlevatar, let's monitor my tone in this segment as I continue to get irritated by the unrelenting waves of stupidity that lap upon my shorts. Stugatz. Sorry. These live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. So our next guest has put in a good amount of work into the art of making a documentary about Richard Pryor. I hope he doesn't hold against us. How poorly read all of that was by Stu God. Why would he STAN Van Gundy is with us and stand I'm just before we start with Jesse James Miller you've seen the IM Richard Pryor documentary? What pulled you toward it? And what takeaways did you have? Well, what pulled me toward it was an interest in Richard Pryor, one of the great comedians of our time. And and I knew a little bit about his background. But I mean, an incredible story of his life and. And his upbringing, and then his professional life and everything else. I mean, I it's a phenomenal documentary. So Jesse James Miller, the director is with us. Now, I am Richard Pryor premiers Friday, ten pm paramount network. There's a lot been written about Richard Pryor there been films done on Richard Pryor. Jesse James Miller. Thank you for joining us. How was yours different? Well, that's a good question. Guys. Thanks for having me on by the way, you know. I just tackled it as much from his perspective as possible and trying to give him his his own voice. So whenever you know, we used albums we are five as much as possible just to to give him his his do say in his own film. What surprised you as you did some of the research and reporting on this? Well, I mean, like STAN I knew I knew a lot about him. But the he's so layered as a person that the farther, you went the farther, you went into this kind of world with that that explained his later sort of lapses into into heroin, and and the drugs and the women and stuff. So it it made more sense to me the more you you you you dived into his into his past. What were the parts? I imagine part of that growing up in a brothel, right? Yeah. I mean, it's far more complicated than that. Just the family dynamics. And and also the, you know, the the white culture he grew up within as a comedian to was was constraining as well. So there's a lot a lot of angles to him as a person then his genius showed how he overcame a lot of those things. What did you find out about Richard while doing this film? That's a proud you the most. How brilliant he was. You knew that going in. No, no, like what you mean to overcome the degree of difficulty in overcoming all he overcame through that brilliant. No, I think just an in his actual work that the just the genres he sort of hopped around and went back and forth from the album's to the acting to his poetry. We have some poetry in it, which I've we've founded old radio station in Berkeley, just his vast knowledge of of being an artist really was the depths was was was in was incredible for me to find what kind of things like that again. Jesse james? Miller's new film. I'm Richard Pryor premieres this Friday, ten pm paramount network. What kind of little treasures like that? Did you find that you were excited to find? Well, I mean, I knew about what stacks, and I knew about juke and OPEL with lily Tomlin and stuff. But but that was just because I went and spent a few months and archive before I made the film with my editor. So we started listening to all his albums and bicentennial and stuff like that. All these kind of treasures that. Of course, you know, the Richard Pryor show. I mean, it goes on and on and on just his genius. Just overlap so many different genres, which was the most surprising part for me. Stan what do you have for Jesse James Miller, the documentarian of I am Richard Pryor, premiers this Friday, ten pm paramount network. What do you have for him stance? Well, I I was struck by the fact that you know, he was so revolutionary as a as a black comedian, and he had so much to say and he paved the way for so many people, but none of that seemed to really make him happy as an individual. And I was just wondering. How you came away from this feeling about him? Like were you sad for him? Did you see him as a dark person? Did you think there was an underlying happiness just sort of your overall views of Richard Pryor as a person? Question. Stan I mean, you know, there's tortured souls and in life that you come across. And sometimes they're they're created through things they went through sometimes just entered the world that way, I don't know what what it is for richer, but he definitely was hurting. But he dealt with it and he overcame they're striking thing is what he overcame to get to to share with us his genius. So yeah, I mean, it's a good question that I think that later in life. He did come to terms with a lot of things and Jennifer prior really helps with that that kind of are in the story. But what from childhood most shaped him excuse me for interrupting. Well, I think his grandmother grandmother for sure. She she ruled the the the house with with with compassion, but also with with brute strength, you know, there's when you watch the film, I think a lot of people last night at the premiere were a bit stunned. They're they're hoping. I mean, there's a lot of funny moments in the film, but there's also a lot of layers of and depths of humanity. And it so stunned by which part of. I'm sorry stunned by which part. The fun part no stunned by which part you said the people the premier were stunned by by the depth of of his life. I think I think people who who walked in without knowing a little bit more about Pryor's background were kind of like stunned by that. Thing that got me. I'm sorry. Dan. Can you comment on the sort of the contradiction at one point in in the documentary? He was also they were talking about, you know, while he was making people laugh he was actually angry that people were laughing about things that had been so hard for him talking about his life in his comedy. Yeah. I think that that comes from Michael absent that comes from his own personal experience dealing with prior as well. So. It's it's it it is a contradiction. That's it's a strange one. I think comedians are are. A lot of matured. That's where comedy comes from is from from the sadness of life. And I think every everybody deals with that. And that John of of our work again, the new film. I am Richard Pryor premiers this Friday ten pm paramount network Jesse James Miller, the documentarian on with us on ESPN radio. What were the depths of the drug use? What were the parts that made you satis- because it was it was something that ravaged him. Well, I didn't get to to involve with the fire and the drugs. I mean, I I, of course, you have to go there with with Richard. I think it just. There's a clip from stir crazy from an interview that he did on the side, which is quite shocking about how how far he went. But I mean, you know, the fire I didn't I didn't really focus on the fire and tried to to substantiate it with understanding him better before we got to that part of the film. So you know, I mean. Yeah. I just didn't spend too much time with it as much as others. Have. I think most people that's where they get stuck on the women in the drugs. That's that's what that's the part of the story that they tell what you're telling us, right? And what you enjoy doing? You feel like this is the most comprehensive look at Richard Pryor. There's ever been. I would imagine given the amount of time investment. Well, I don't know if that's true or not. I mean, I've I've there's other films that have been done very good films on him. I just I just I'm coming from a humanist sort of standpoint. And and trying to you know, dress this person down to understand why he did the things he did. And how he did it. I watched it. I thought it was great. I was moved the one question. I had after watching the movie Jesse is how do you think Levy on will fit in with the jets? He's going to be great. Yeah. I don't I don't know about the jets. But I think he'll do. Great just we appreciate it. Thank you. Congratulations on the film. We appreciate it. All right, guys. Thanks for having me. Don Libertad talking. Going hard as they can. Stugatz. They're talking. This is live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. So John Darren Bose is gonna join us in about forty five minutes. His backstory is that he was a Philadelphia eagle, and then he became a magician. He was an America's got talent. One of these shows. He got very you've got a lot of acclaim. He got a long run. He was playing the show for a while. And now he's a magician. He's touring as a magician. So he's gonna come through here you catch what he does on ESPN UIs and Forty-five minutes visually, and we're also going to talk to him. It's Darren boss, and Dan he finished third that season. So that means he was the third most talented person in America that year. I love a magic show. Do you guys not love them show? Like, oh my God pulling rabbits out of hats. He might not do that. But you know, it's stuff like that. Ermo put it on the poll, you love a magic show man who doesn't who got to be one hundred percent, right. Everyone loves a man. Show with you stand. Well, I want to share this with stand because he's familiar with. Stugatz. His work and Stu gods. Very often during the breaks we work in a confined space. It can't be healthy the tight circumstances where we're bouncing into each other all the time Allison comes in a couple of times this show and walks away from Stu gods. Just muttering, Dan. I don't know how you do it. Now the last time she did this because here's what's happening. Stan he's already got a DVD. And now he's on the high of he's acquired Levy on bell. And there's some good jets fuel in his life. So I'm not kidding you. When I say this stand listen to what just happened during the break. So he's already apologized to me four times. He's blamed medicine. He's he's like, Dan. I'm sorry. I'm so annoying today last thing last thing, and then here's the last thing, I'm not making this up. It's the last thing I heard from Stu gods him reading from his computer Utah. Tell me what this has to do with anything. Courtesy of Jon Rothstein on Twitter Vermont against UNBC in the American east title game a chance for the catamounts to get redemption a chance for UNBC to get back to the stage where it shined a year ago. This is March. Goosebumps. Diane. And I started my coaching career as an assistant at the university of Mont. So I still follow them. See, Dan full-service meaningful. Dan meaningful to me. I mean, March madness right around the corner it's championship week. And I got my finger on the pulse of things that are interesting about that. Kadam out there big upset, and then you NBC went on his shot the world of the NCAA tournament, I dictated that. But here I am torn because you weren't assisted over on. My dad went there. My brother went there. My best friend went there. And I don't know who to go with tonight. Got to go with the Kennedy. They're not going to lose again at home ABM. It is. I predicted that you NBC wind tonight at home. Well that stands prediction. I predict it. I probably set it real that NBC would be the first sixteen seeds upset a one seed last year the NCAA tournament. Remember that right? That's great. That's great pick. It's it would have been hard to pull out one solid gore. Pl- not exactly how that happened. You just said watch out they make some noise that you said for every here's the thing though Stanton. Thank you for that correction, Billy because this is what we found out what we have found out is that stugotz on a moment's notice can fake his way through a great deal of college basketball analysis, then let me help you with this because I've made fun with an about Charles Barkley, the idea that he comes in and crams all these ridiculous tests where they work him harder than he works at any other time during the year force feeding him knowledge on what's happened in college basketball and students over the years has gotten very good, even if he doesn't know, but the bare minimum facts on a team stugatz. Gotten very good. At just faking his way through the bluster and he can sound like Seth Greenberg, and Jay Williams and everyone else even though he doesn't know anything. So. What's a random team that might make the catamounts outta the American east conference twenty eight and six John Becker, a very underrated head coach at up telling you Dan rea Dempsey time for Vermont because they lost this game year ago. So they are looking to get back. But here's the difference between this year's team at last year's team. They have more experience guard play this year than they had last year simply because the guys are a year older at so when you have experienced Garth way in March an experience goes who's not going to be there. Very long out of a very underrated conference the American east conference, and they beat a good UNBC team. If they do that and gain some confidence watch out and don't be surprised if the catamounts out of the American ease by themselves in the Sweet Sixteen so he did that on about forty teams last year and one of them came through what happened did that right there on to stick? And so finally last year was the first time a sixteens ever beat a one right Pablo? Poor pablo. With all his highfalutin formulas trying to figure out who the sixteen is going to be to beat the one. He's been doing that on a round the horn for years and never been right? Got stumbled into it with just you know, volume shoot it. There you go. I was much against the wall as you can something's gotta stick. There. You guess then that's been my philosophy. My tired. So we've got March madness coming up around here. Now stand do you just think into a chair and watch a whole lot of bad basketball, or do you just do not do that? No. I watch it. I love it. When you I don't watch much during the year. But I love it. When you get to the tournament and win in years when I'm not coaching like now, I'll watch almost the entire thing so much popcorn. How much popcorn oh so much? Oh, at least a bag of popcorn a game. How many many times in? Yeah. Fewer Eminem's than than pop down. But but there will be. Yeah. They'll be plenty.

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Awful Square job steely-eyed in the picture of an iron man of the law smaller desk his dispeat- deputy was filling out some papers hop looked up as we came in not briskly evening. Dan Sit out Graham pitch another chair. Yes Sir Mr Harper. You cut US villas. We drill them all right. Mix Up thank you. I gather that you didn't catch them. Alexei we know where early are just a matter of time my deputy here clam. He's making out the report right now. Better get back to glimpse yes sir now you want to give me a list of what was still not much of a list year just ten in MM sachse gold dust about five thousand dollars. You get that clam sure did sir and you can lose the name isn't it has that's right. <hes> twenty dollars in my one kindle cynwyd see orangey that had English newspaper fellow heard back in shy and I'm an English newspaper Man Yeah. I'm proud I had a proud I reckon you'll be writing. All is up for your paper. Imagine I will good good and you'll get the gems to see how we take care of bad man. Alarming things are going to be different right here. I'd admired. Have you stick around Ken. We've got new methods scientific like they've been using the knees. That's fine but what about my goal is. Hold on boys must be in Colorado. Oh by now you hear that Clinton sure funny one where they are gyms right this minute. I can put my finger but I'm going to wait for more than their hold up. The Senate Daniel Mind Dig it about thirty miles west of here. That's where we draw them. Isn't it gland place sir. We got four main watching right this minute gamble. How'd you like the right out in the morning what just pull in a bunch of very interesting sheriff <hes> just about the most important store you've ever it and I'll be glad to help you make your name Kim awfully kind of one of maybe maybe all easy party <music>? I tell you there Donald Lazy Kate Saloon Same Fellas did the whole up this afternoon. 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Alongside to get a could look damn you better stay here can use your recognize. The voices just singer you but I will share pledge goal the West. I don't say she can't do the job. I'll ride along with all Colt forty four. That's for sure that there's one three piece of I beg you gentlemen. Four talking to me missed. That's that's right. There's the man voice looks like the other chops to Money Code C._D.. Or chef there's something wrong. What's your name? Mr Fred Coal you. She'll vested no with these other boys yeah. I don't know I never saw before tonight or give on the bar. Gyms share was supposed to done some slight matter of a hold up the search Glam watch out for big. Go Mr Harper Committee. You got the wrong man me and Noah we had no lettuce laughter. I don't even carry a gun me. Neither Air Clean Sheriff shore were clean. You got us. Miss took perfect mix. I don't think so I'm digging you bogey. The stagecoach driver identified you as well. If it's a mistake you've got nothing to worry about. It isn't e._M._T.. Settles for you in the Mr Bill. Let's go you took them back to the sheriff's office and they were locked up protesting the mildly seemingly quite unwilling. I could see that then Mana had a profound found affect on hopper. He must have felt that in my eyes his reputation was at stake unequivocally he had stated that the hold up men were trapped thirty miles away in the mine shafts of centennial now three of the victims had identified identify the ringleaders under his very knows in land. You must have found it rather awkward because after an hour so of questioning he faced clock the driver and we and set gentleman I've Christian Oh boys in there for better than our I recognized Oh men as well as the Knicks man. Maybe some better adult see here another. Those fellas are innocent. Now those voices anyway I know how you feel but but in the morning when we bring the out laws in you'll factory and you'll have it on your gun since two innocent cow punches were on just a locked up in other words. You're going to release these men. That's about size of it Kim in spite of the fact that all all three of us know their voices we could be wrong even so you're going to let them go. We'll know Ken will this is a matter law. They got nothing on. I'm sure they get your valuables. You identify voice boy but not a fees that isn't going to stand up and core sides are is much. I don't know when it comes to follow inside that sure is so sheriff used to be a scout for colonel custer. Those <hes> Hula men never double back to Laramie. You can take my word <hes> with with any harm in holding these champs at least until you bring in the others in the morning at least on Suspicion Kendall. I wouldn't want you right in your payment that the sheriff alarming took the lawn his own hands. I got a mighty big job to do in this town Monday. You're worrying about your job in his newspaper. I'm worrying about five thousand dollars robbed off me. I guess I could hold them deal morning good do that. That's all we want you ever since I've seen that big fella without his mask I got a feeling what sort of a feeling driver incident. What is your name driver Ellwood driver Kinda get you don't it may be an stagecoach driver and all driver anyways about that feller? I keep thinking maybe I seen him somewhere. Where yeah what do you want go? Laying Sylvester Lewis Lonard Hobson GRUB. We sure Glam I am Grozny eatery and get them to Russell up some GRUB. The boys sure well Mr. I guess I'll check in at a hotel gets shut. I you can share a room. If you want Kennel thank you as a matter of fact I was amazed so we just started auto something. Maybe we can prove we ain't the fellows you're looking for. All right cool speed ups well now these fellows they say they was held up about ten miles outside Laremy. That's right and what time yeah what I tell you right yeah yeah well now silvester here members. There's there's folks who could tell you. We was right here in Lami all afternoon and about six now that's so we couldn't be in two places to us. Could that's for sure now. That's for sure you'll have to admit that chef lure witnesses boys three Faldo's down to the Sherman Hotel. We've planned billy drinking beer with them. I don't recollect your last names. There was a Jim Jim Hankers Yankees and then Zan Zach and brother. He's <hes> <hes> Jake. That's right you. Go ask them sheriff. I'll tell you you find. I'm fair man boys if you're telling the tooth out affair. I knew you'd give us a square deal here. Quite convenient isn't and in what those the witnesses popping up by be so Kim Man's innocent until proven guilty that's the law yeah but there was six of them in the Holdup Kendall plug one at least five to you got an air the other three down the Sherman hotel my thoughts exactly Eugen saying that five outlaws doubled back on me you reckon I lost a tale of five million you reckon they'd all be fool enough to come into Laramie. After a delight hold up they might it'd be smart enough to mystic general. That's the big paper you write for and I guess you do a real fan job which on no law may not I._B._M.. Patient with you jets because I felt sorry foil but I'm the sheriff anatomy and from here on in I'm going to have to run things. My wish it's Clem gets back. I'm walking down to this Sherm July Twentieth Nineteen fifty-eight The Frontier Gentleman on Classic Radio Theatre Hi. I'm Jay Farner C._E._O.. Of quicken loans America's largest mortgage lender. I've got great news. 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It's time now stacy partner Hi Stacey thank car our so now yeah. I know I'm GonNa show you helen around the town okay. I'll be ready dollar. That was a little excitement we had aboard ship last night <hes> Stewart follower heart. That's putting it politely. I I think he got pushed tonight. And every Weekday Night Bob Bailey in the transcribed adventures of the man with the action packed expense-account America's Fabulous Ella's freelance insurance investigators truly johnny dollar them from special investigator Johnny Dollar Location at sea on the southern empress ruled Capetown to car the Home Office traced in indemnity associates assignment the star of Capetown matter expense account concluded the item twelve fifty cents room service onto aspirins right from the start. This whole deal had been a series of headaches at eight one Andrew Forbes international playboy. An owner of the star of Capetown insured for one hundred. I'm fifty thousand bucks. Fours was tossing that stone around like it was a cheap toy. He wound up murdered the diamond missing Forbes's probable killer Julio beyond was in Cape Town jail at the moment but it's confederate was still on the loose the Stewart who could've told me who the confederate was had been fished out of the drink debt last night now we were going ashore at the car and whoever had that diamond could make it hard for me to find it could be stacey the boy from the wide open spaces it could be helen traveling companion to exit the four James and I knew if it did turn out to be Helen elite me Kinda sick inside first of all it could be somebody. I didn't even know about hence. The Aspirin Stacy had asked us to meet him at the Gangway at ten o'clock when he was wearing site when I showed up Pretty Soon Helen Aga- Forbes came along Jalan Good Morning Mr Dalli Helen just told me about what happened last night somebody trying to seize her on draft. I shouldn't have told you know I'm glad you did anything unhappy during the night. Helen kept my state room door. Lock your sorry I'm late. I guess I overslept already ready. I'm mighty glad to see you with US Miss Forbes. I was hoping you'd come won't be going with you going. Stay aboard Gordon Risks. Come on now. Miss do good. They'll let your hair down on Frisk around a bit Mr Stacy I assure you I don't feel like fiscal around a bit see when you get put my foot in my Kamov talking that way oh I usually do anyway. It sure big enough well one thing I had to give Stacey credit for. He was a good guy. He threatened us through St After Street. Native native quarter of the car narrow passageways crowded with people installs where native hog pending all sorts of merchandise. This is fascinating isn't it. I told you Helen Bay cars. I don't blame I love it. I wonder if it isn't about time we started back to the shift see just I I know hello. I think there's a shop around here. You'd be interested in silks perfume stuff like that. You understood here. Let me get my barons in need more perfume Janney. Does it bother you that I still wear this curfew Randy Forbes gave me if it does uh-huh yeah y'all a shop I had in mind this right down. The street. Come on Stacey led us to the shop. Helen began trying on dresses enrolls this. I didn't like if she had the diamond. This was a golden opportunity to pass it along. There wasn't much do then all of a sudden. I realized that stacy was nowhere in sight. I went outside started along the state looking for then. I spotted a man following a native number news so I ducked down the next daylight is shaking but he didn't shake then I noticed that this was a blind alley. The native was closing in and what he had in his hand looks strangely like a nice suddenly adobe dollar easy. I said come on in a gun in front a night behind me. I guess they don't have much choice so you had your still stemming. I figured sooner or later you'd start looking for me so I just thought it'd make an easy for you. Thanks stick around us and I may need you that pretty effective persuader dollar Zoe so you're the boy I've been after Stacey Direction. You're the boy I've been after dollar. What are you talking about diamond? Call The star Capetown. Let's have an all look. Don't give that routine and by your buddy. He'll be in Cape Town. You kill the Stewart aboard ship to keep him from telling me it. Was You sent the Cable Polio Roy dollar that should mean you've got the dime smarten up boy. You think I'd have a range US little reception for you. If I had the stone wait a minute. You're the one that was doing all the room searching aboard ship. I'm no one I'll let's have it. I don't have it stacey and I don't know where it is. You gotta real sense of humor. Dollar slow has has sand show him Sam they wet. Hey look this isn't going to do you any good. Do your face and he good either. I San a look you know try dollar. I guarantee you'll get yourself shot now. Look so you're on Nice brave boy but you're being foolish. It's no good triumphs Nomi. I got it all figured out. Just what have you got all figured out. That isn't in her State Room. It isn't in yours. I searched on both again this morning before we came ashore. That's why I was late. You're talking about Helen who else that's why I steered that shop to try on dresses. Little lady wounds it as a friend of mine. She found a diamond. If Helen was carrying Helen Yeah Alan. How do you know she had it process of elimination buddy? She was the only one with Forbes before Julio got them. I've been watching you and Helen like Hawk dollar. There's only one the time she could've given you the stone that was during that tender little clinch Ondeck last night right under my nose why didn't they what's the matter dollar. Nothing what Stacey had just said pop the whole deal in the place right on the my nose right where it had been all the time dollar you just five minutes to tell me where that diamond is. Hassan will be here with you and he's going to start persuading again. If you don't talk I had to get back to the ships ship somehow that meant I'd have to fence talking. I looked at ZAN. I couldn't tell which was wintering Moore's like is of the navy against my throat one wrong word. I knew each dot com has in. Do you want <hes> you come from the desert. Don't you why you're a long way from home homesick. What do you mean I was just thinking with half the money for that diamonds? You could buy yourself in a waste with all the trimmings do not worry buddy stacey would pay me well. When we get the Journal? What's it giving you for this job three goats and a newborn news easy with that knife? It's just everybody who works for Stacey seems to wind up getting paid off the wrong way that wrong. They call all you'll be. The Guy Stacey Hi diamond in the first place. He's rooting Capetown Jail Right. Now you rely you can check on it then. There's the Stewart who sent stacy's message to walk. He got shoved overboard. You can check on that tool but I'm sure thing like that would never happen to you. Go on dollar okay. I know where the diamond is. Do I know I can trust you. You can come with me to get it and they don't Yeah No. At least he was thinking about. It and it's all they wanted. His eyes got that far away. Look that's what I was waiting for. I work my arm and very festive. He checked a rabbit punch finish any some off. The Wall Justice Stacey came charge. I drink the gun out of his hand to work. Stacey was rugged but I finally made it got that accomplish released what Stacey and azan on ice patched up my face and headed back to the ship but there was something else hurting me a lot more than my face Helen John Yeah Johnny face as well. I have to hand it to you ellen. That was a real class-a snow job. You pulled on me yeah. It was right onto my nose. All the time. The Perfume Forbes gave to you always the bottle on my dressing table pretty fancy bottle solid base. Maybe not so solid county in the base of the bottle star Dr Capetown but your real surprised on your Johnny. I didn't know it was there. I didn't have any idea I swear it. She's telling the truth. Mr Forbes magazine that gun look sort of out of character. They won't hesitate to use it necessary. Don't understand it was cruel of Andrew in me to us you like this Helen but we saw no other alternative. Wait a minute. You're on your brother rig. This whole deal right from the beginning didn't sure sure aw sure because you slip yesterday Agatha when you told me you discussed your brothers Party with him but back in Cape Town. He told me it was a surprise party for you still ought simple Helen. That bottle perfume turned up missing when you got to New York Agatha whatever appropriated it one big question Agatha. Why all this have you any idea what it means to see somebody drag the family named through the dirt time after time with his wild escapades paid and have you any idea what those escapades cost brother was in debt terribly repressed to the wall or lighting just sell a diamond we were bound by the will not to that arrangements were made with someone in New York? Look what we could get for the diamond plus what we could collect from the insurance it would be enough nice little scheme but you didn't figure on Julio Biak trying for the diamond and Cape Town killing your brother in the process no I I didn't know what to do that. Soon became clear that more than ever I had to go through with a plan brothers. Creditors began to make trouble right after his mood the diamond please on look. Don't you get it and then you elect. Do you mean you've done all this to protect the Forbes name. You failed the stories out. No it's not only to the two of you. How are you going to keep us from talking? Do whatever it is necessary. Bribe's kill us. Sorry neither one's GonNa work. Mr Do not trapped Agatha by the same thing that got you into all this the Forbes name. Are you going to brandon with murder. No I don't think you are. I don't think you'll call it. I don't I don't not please Mr. Gao take the gun. They say I have failed all the way expensive items thirteen three hundred seventy five dollars fifty fifty cents transportation and incidentals Takhar home expense account total twelve hundred eighty three dollars and sixty cents. I tend to diamond over to the authorities for safekeeping and Agatha fogs to face charges. A fraud only Biak and Ben Stacey were indicted for the murderer Andrew forms remarks about Agatha. I guess she did what she did because she thought the end justified the me which is one of the oldest sucker traps all about Helen allow that she's no longer suspect it could be. I'm no longer building up to a big letdown with her. At least it hasn't come yet and I'm still waiting and waiting Israel pleasant yours truly johnny dollar. You know star to tell you about next week story next week a yacht that wasn't there a man Dan who wasn't there. They never were but that's where I found them. Join us once you yours truly Johnny Dollar Yours Truly Johnny Dollar starring starring Bob Bailey is transcribed in Hollywood. It has written by Robert Wyatt and produced directed by Jack Johnstone hurt him this week's cast with Gene Tatum Virginia Greg Harry bartell Chester Stratton Marvin Miller and D._J.. 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He's been the Edgerton Post as opposed to sort of regular. Freetalklive has been on the air on freetalklive Stephen Moore and Eddington Post our interview series Stephen and this is actually our broadcast radio show so now we're we're on the biggest night here. Stephen Moore as I understand that you were actually pointed or attempted to be appointed to the Federal Reserve Board by Donald Trump. I was nominated to be on the Federal Reserve Board but I withdrew but I have some very partly because <hes> by the way I was nominated with Herman Cain who's also here. That's right yeah yesterday at the conference win nine. We did you know what we would have done. If we on the Fed we were the nightmare for the fad they'd because we wanted transparency. We went openness. We wanted the Fed to stop trying to <hes> squelch in <hes> stomp on growth because we think the economy can grow much faster than it is and so anyway I think it's an institution then needs radical reform about to shut it down while I think we need fad but it's gotta be more responsive the people why should I always ask question I mean it's one of the most powerful agencies of government for sure yet. They're responsive to virtually no one and there there's no transparency. Why should they be operating in secret? It's like this secret hand-shakers. They have something over there and I think it's it's bad for market so I ran campaign of openness and and more growth and I do think by the way the Fed is too tight. They should be cutting rates because this economy control much faster than it is right now so cutting rates means <hes> putting dollar liquidity into the economy. There's not enough dollars in the economy. Now we're because of trump's policies on cutting taxes reducing regulation promoting American energy <hes> promoting American business. There's a big demand for dollars around the world and that has to be a comedy griller growth does not cause inflation growth is not cause inflation if you produce more goods and services the prices if things go down. They don't go up relation as we've said many times is the increase in the money. That's true but it's also it's a supply-and-demand. It's the supply of dollars which you're right. That's when the fat you know re-learn this economics one hundred remember <hes> inflation's too many dollars chasing too few goods well in <hes> in economics class in government school where I went they tell us that inflation was a rise in prices but that's just a simple. That's that's taught you know that's Tautology. That's what inflation but what causes inflation is when you have too many dollars chasing too few goods and right now we have to few dollars chasing a lot of goods and that's what the dollar strong as were. That's why the dollar strong. It's a letter sollers lost like ninety seven percent of its value over the last now recently I mean recently the dollar is King and you know the Alec I WanNa strong and stable what I want from our currency it it goes back to Y. You know you have twenty dollar bills in your pocket and why twenty people have savings accounts with dollars because you have faith at the dollar will remain stable and price and we WANNA make do not have that faith. Well probably don't own dollars. I know that it will yeah well now. You have all sorts of other you could old gold say it's King you mean. It's the king of the currency yeah of all the other Fiat currencies well. You know we should talk about that because I'm now on the Board of new company. Ah Called D. Central Bank which is credentialing about that. What is it? It's a crypto currency. It's a private money so that if someone like you Ian who doesn't believe in the stability of the dollar you can sort of like bitcoin and although think we have a better model and it's it's a way to allow transactions to happen faster. It's a way to have to take away the government dominance of money. I mean why should government report that I'm a libertarian too so and by the way you can tell the good things because the left notch just the laugher Republicans and Democrats are trying to regulate these things out of existence the competition nope they do not like crypto currencies do the old bankers and a lot of cases don't like it either and they say oh gee. We can't have these cryptocurrencies cryptocurrencies. They're going to risk of financial crisis. I'm like well. They don't need crypto currencies do that. The central bankers while themselves right all the time and before we go off into crypto currency land I wanNA talk about <hes> sort of the dollar strength against other currencies Nancy's because I didn't quite get what you're saying <hes> Stephen Moore and the so the dial the inflation is too few dollars many dollars dollars goods so what you want is the Federal Reserve to create just the right amount of Ashley which is an incredibly difficult ass right <hes> just the right amount of dollars to chase just the right amount of <hes> you know the U._S.. Dollar in line with the sort of slow crash of every other Fiat currency that's around the world in in the hopes that we can maintain dominance but not price ourselves out of the markets for exports. Is that what we're talking about. What what you have a currency for is to retain value over time can the reason I do hold twenty dollar bills and I have a lot out of savings in dollars E. N. as because I do think that dollar will retain its value now? If the dollar fluctuates widely you know one of the values of having that currency falls so for example. I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember but I do when we add fifteen percent on inflation and the one thousand nine hundred seventy well. Nobody wanted to own dollars right because they lose their value similarly. If the dollars too tight and you have deflation we knew learn from the Great Depression that can cause big problems too so I like to look a commodity prices. I like to look at what's happening with gold and silver and copper and cotton and we'd and soybeans and timber and look at those over time and are they are they remaining stable on price and the truth is over the last year or so <hes> you know currency commodity prices have fallen by about ten to twelve percent which is an indication of deflation which means we knew we need lower interest rates more dollars. What about the tariffs that we've seen with? I mean these have got to be affecting prices worldwide. They are and look I. I'm not in favor of auto tariffs and I'm not in favor of steel Tehran's non favorite aluminum terrace. I do think and by the way I I hope we get this free trade agreement on with with Mexico and Canada because you know that would be very positive. Is it GonNa be actual free trade or rear bridge good point. You know there's no real true free trade <hes> but here's where I may disagree with you. Fellows right I am in favor of what trump is doing on China. Okay I think try China is an abusive trade relationship concur with. I think that they cheat they steal. They're stealing three hundred billion dollars of our technologies intellectual property. They are hacking our computer systems. They are involved in Cyber espionage against the United States. We've opened up our markets them. They have an open up their market stocks and trump wants to use the leverage that he has over China force them to behave themselves and there there is some short term pain to that. I think the economy would be growing fast if we didn't have this trade dispute but in the long term we can't go on with the current situation but <hes> you would agree that tariffs chefs are basically attacked by the way for the first one hundred twenty years of our country terrorists were the major way we raise revenues to the terrible way to raise the federal government for the federal government yeah one of the few constitutional ways if you're not exactly and so oh and their tax on consumption I'd rather tax consumption than than income and investment but <hes> but also I mean we want to access to be low and we don't want it star trade wars around the country around the world and and we are in a major major epic battle right now our China. I want to be non existent but I'll take I'll take low if I can get mad way we have relatively the lowest Harrison the world I think Australia's lower than we are and I think what trump wants to do is ratchet. These other countries and trump wants freer trade by forcing these other countries to low terrace. It's an interesting approach and aiding that here at freedom fast so dom Rudra who's an economist at George Mason University is as taking a position of essentially unilateral collateral free trade for that. I'm more in favor of <hes>. I used to be in favor of in a lot of free trade. Now I WANNA use our leverage because every country wants to trade with the United States we're we're the big Kohana and we can use that leverage to force these other countries so treat the United States more fairly well. I mean obviously it's risky strategy. Yeah I mean I see skepticism and you're not see I exist in this another world of an abstract active belief in the in free markets and three trade and that <hes> that governments are organizations that claim dominion over free people and I live in a reality that <hes> it is only a government that can truly negotiate trade trade with another government because I don't know why I don't know why that is but it seems to be the case that it is and that you know if you WanNa get free trade. You have to get it somehow do. I think that <hes> trump is genius if he is he's a genius at hiding his genius to Stephen you stay with us for another segment all right. We're GONNA continue here. Stephen Moore is with US sees trump's senior was economic advisor and founder of an organization called decentral which we're GONNA get into here in just a moment gold has definitely been on the move recently and there is no more secure investment historically mcilveen. 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I suspect that one is going to be pretty <hes> pretty massive <hes> whenever it is I've got a blast here especially had a blast here with Stephen Moore <hes> in this interview. It's Elizabeth Warren Oh com or I'm hoping camel hair twenty. Let's bring Bernie Freedom fast. It would be fun. I remember the story about Joe Biden when he came in air. America was a big deal in radio. He came in and did a interview. Rachel maddow interviewed him in front of a room full of Republican talkers and there's a smattering think of applause at the end is he raises his arms and it was just he looked it was so miserable his reception his face never broke this guy's a consummate politician no soul at all and <hes> you know he's grabbing people's hands on the shaking them on the way out like you know what does he sipping pupils air knows old guy by the way <hes> Stephen Moore is one of trump's senior economic at or the senior economic advisor for Donald Trump. He's with the Heritage Foundation economists with them and involved in out by the way called trump comics that I wrote without laugher really of laughing about our experiences helping put the economic program together for trump during the two thousand sixteen campaign art for have the Nobel Prize is for a economic not should okay. I should probably not going to turn on but he did <hes> about a month ago. He Won. He was awarded by President trump the presidential medal freedom which is a great great honor the highest civilian Air Yeah Yeah I'm but you know it tells you a lot about the Nobel committee that they have not a word a TR- <hes> laugher the Nobel price because you can make the argument he's probably one of the five most prominent influential economists alive today right and and Nobel prize living. He's the fifth on well. I appreciate the crowds you run with Stephen Moore purchase limit with US yeah and by the way we're going to get into crypto currency here because you've taken an interest in decentral central dot tech which is your website but I do until bank dot com tech. Sorry Central Bank dot tack. Thank you for your knows what you're GonNa get this central while you're going to good crypto currency website checkout helped me take bitcoin dot com because has if you own a business and you want you know let your customers pay you with crypto currencies helped me take bitcoin dot com makes it super easy. It's the folks over at any pay we know personally they're based out of New Hampshire and you can easily except Bitcoin Dash Z. cash bitcoin in cash and several other crypto currencies at your point of sale. Just go to help me take bitcoin dot com got APPs for android. It's helped me take bitcoin dot com and it's free to accept these crypto currencies at your business which you don't get that from the credit card companies so Stephen Moore <hes>. <hes> what got you know where did you get into crypto how did that happen yeah well <hes> you know since i was not <hes> confirmed to be on the federal reserve board my <hes> my idea was you know if you can't join them beat them so basically federal reserve yeah exactly i mean so this is a currency that will compete with the dollar the euro the yen i want and you know there are others you mentioned bitcoin and in the mid one on the block right now is libra which is new facebook one which by the way last week they had hearings before this paris financial services committee and my god they acted like this was godzilla you know eddie money on it i mean this is going to be horrible and it's freaked out central bankers freaked out the politicians freaked out the regulators but i love nothing about google and apple pay news i mean this is the wild what the this conference is called the wild west this technology is the wild west were shirt in the next ten five ten twenty years all sorts of alternative currencies i loved the idea that you don't have to go to the government to get money why should the government monopolize apple is money it's always been that way well even if that's not even true mr she know from the early stages people would just get silver silver tokens or cold and they would you know independent of government i like it for privacy reasons you know i want to be able to do things now the governor's all my gossipy drug runners and it's going to be you know a criminal so you use this use cash for that exactly the government's money for me it's going to be it'll make transactions much easier much speedier and this is the new big thing and i'm proud to be part of it what was there something like was it a ten years ago five years ago when did you kind of clue into the crypto currency well i mean as literally when trump bass me to be on the federal reserve aboard i really really became interested money and not how it works and how it's dominated and i mentioned earlier how it's just so outrageous the fed accident with this stonewall of secrecy around it and this will be completely open it will it and by the way you know currencies haven't done very good job of retaining their value over time you mentioned that you know a dollar today is worth ten cents for you know i was fifty years ago it's hedge and i think the cell actually be a disciplining impact on on on government currencies and the european union and the european central bank has really freaking out about this nobody say this do you mean cripple currency in general in general okay so tell me about decentral then well our ideas to pay the trick is how do you keep the currency chrissy stable so we're going to peg it to the dollar because the dollar has been relatively stable over the last thirty years and you know that the trick is how do you keep it <hes> stable over time and then you know it's also you have privacy in this you don't you know the government won't be the government's business what you're buying when you're buying or wherever you are and all of these things so we find it to be a very attractive alternative toning dollars or or nor pesos or whatever it might be so is the european <hes> central bank is it more worried about cryptocurrency than the united states i would say why because they they are socialists believe the government should run everything right this is a libertarian dream right to have an look i'm not saying we're going to replace the dollar i actually think it'll supplement the dollar should just make the dollar easier to us on the internet that's all i mean yeah exactly it's well put in the in the people who produce a dollar think that's great i have a nerdy economic question for you can you explain to me the difference between sort of the second julia dollar made by the u._s. meant and the united states federal reserve note that they call a u._s. dollar who are these organizations and how do they just make thank you sorry i knew dummy shop i just don't know how both the united states and the federal reserve can make money at the same magic though they've got him wet magic wand they can just make as much as they want so decent central bank dot tech they're calling this a decentralized central bank what is that even mean because it's not controlled by any you know like right now we have the fed that controls are you know oh <hes> u._s. dollar you've got the european central bank which controls the euro and likewise in china and this is totally independent of government and you know the government's screw things up you know do share a kind of contempt of big government would gets gets out of control and this is a way to pull unwrought i wouldn't own only <hes> decentral tokens sure i would it's a way of you know expanding your portfolio outhouses available or is this being our cell it's still being developed it'll it'll be out there in about a i'd say six months to a year well why don't you get back in touch with us when it does we should talk more details some tokens my wonderful we love free money but you know i i do think that you know the whole history of <hes> almost every financial panic that's why i remember i mentioned earlier that the before you get into a long statement here do you if you wanna stay you can stay for another segment about ago every single financial panic i virtually there might be a few exceptions options was caused by monetary mistakes by these central banks which keeps joke that they eminent great depression was salvino saw let's have private currencies globally central thank stephen skies free talk live this is a special special alert for business owners consultants coaches folks planning retirement entrepreneurs and anyone who has saving in investing to build a financial future 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bumper sticker flyers banners graphics and more promote dot l. r. n. dot f._m. and it's free talk live we're here at freedom fest twenty nineteen for de number four of this event and go to freedom fest dot com to learn more about it as we've been sharing with you over the past few days all kinds of interesting invoices and people in projects things going on here and now in the market in our remote studio were going to be talking again to john's dasa was like ten years between interviews prior to the last interview interview we had a view which was i think two weeks ago <hes> at this point so welcome back john thank you guys yeah so <hes> you were speaking here this <hes> this weekend obviously most of our listeners probably worked here they're listening on the radio there at home are going to work or whatever <hes> can you kinda give our listeners so we're not recovering all the ground we covered the last interview what were you talking about here at freedom fest the same things i talked to you in the last interview but here i played video clips from the videos okay great got some laughter my goal in life to get people to to laugh while learning a little well what does it they say if you don't make them laugh they'll probably kill ya or something like that was an old there's a famous they'll just watch something that if you write it has to be entertaining and that's the thing about this is that the many of these economic ideas can be presented in a very boring way but once we see the ludicrousness of the way things are being done now it's it it can be shocking asking what are some of the things that are most ludicrous that you think question well i mean he he plays video so i played my most watched video so far which is thirteen million views and is this of your newer set or <music> all the history the newer second and this was on the two million dollar bathroom in new york and what advantage i have from having been on twenty twenty and good morning america all those years is i won some trust in people that i may disagree with them but i'm fair and so politicians often will agree to come on with me and the parks commissioner came on and he was just comfortable with the two million dollar four seater bathroom in brooklyn in a park but government bathroom in a park government bathroom okay and i pointed out that not far away in bryant park privately run park near city they have much nicer bathroom and what do they pay for it you know two hundred forty four thousand and he said well today this would cost three million because we have a lot of rules we have to go through in the city we have to check with this person listen and that and i gotta get your permission slips and asked what called me and i think the viewers this did he just accepts it he's okay with it it took seven years to build dispath room it took one year to build the empire state building this this is the water this bureaucrat swims and and that's the thing is he's not surprised at all he's like yeah hi saved you guys a million dollars because i got this done before the new rule came in that said all toilet seats have to be flipped upside down ten times before we put him on or whatever it is that they say in any given circumstance sure there's a private company that was able to do it for all for ninth of what we were able to do it but hey you know this is a better bathroom because it's government sanctioned and we hired union union workers and followed union rules but you said the private bathroom was nicer can you give an example of in what way it's just nicer to look at and the commissioner talked about well it's has to cost a lot because as we build these things to laugh and these public bathrooms get lots of us and then we put the split screen up of this bathroom in brooklyn which didn't have anybody around at the same time the bryant park bathroom which is in time just off time times square it was mob people were waiting in line to get in and turns out the government's not exactly telling us the truth on how these things work he he didn't lie said this will get a lot of us but he was ensuring during the bathroom look good and add much more use it just government sucks what it does things don't forget about the you know the people got to go somewhere to shoot up there heroin and and have sex and of course the private industries more likely to keep their bathroom cleaner i mean who's ever been to a government park and been impressed by the bathrooms they're they're always disgusting oh this is a big word usually less appealing than anything private yeah so that was one example that you were you were sharing with folks during your speech here is that right we also talked about edgewood edgewater new jersey this town right across the river from manhattan beautiful beautiful views but there's some wasteland right on the river in a developer offered to come in and build a big apartment complex lots of houses patex the city and he would give the city of free park or free free ferry stop and a free school good deal we're in they turned him down saying now we we were getting overcrowded with development here we're going to use the spot to store our garbage trucks with the view command across the river you could say they were just dumb except they had also just approved a bigger development by another developed one of their buddies turns out they lived in his building so well how do i do the confrontation their jersey politicians know something's up they're not going to sit down for an interview but it is politics so there are public meetings is one code of a meeting and then producers says how are we going to get into this and how are you going to start i say i think i should just start with are you on the take brought but i thought they'd kicked me out if i didn't get to it right away so i came in and said you on the take and you you approve this one project but you live in his building you get in the special deal and they said we we don't like your tone and they don't have to answer it's one of those public hearings you can say whatever are you want to them and they can ignore you good point and they largely did but they mumbled themselves enough to look as guilty as they are they probably probably are guilty but it was in the first part what you're just telling the first part of it wouldn't surprise me of all the government just decided to start their garbage truck in multibillion dollar real estate because that doesn't surprise me at all because they don't have the same incentives that any other organization would have sure we got a sore garbage truck somewhere why not here on this piece of land land could have cell i don't know how many million multi-million dollar condominiums that we could then collect taxes on because garbage trucks or something i don't even know so that part did even surprise me then you find out that they're now approving approving a another deal for somebody that apparently they have some relationship with yeah he's a big builder in town and he's been cozy with the politicians for years there are now lawsuits and this will eventually change but so far all these guys are still office well yeah i mean it's not going to change much because you know whenever a lawsuit is successful it's not like the other bureaucrats in other towns care they keep doing what they do it's the good old boy network you know even though to new jersey and it's new jersey sort of notorious risk for being corrupt it really isn't any different anywhere else is it no though as a consumer reporter i've had more success where the people packed up their stuff disappeared the next day that doesn't happen with the politician absolutely not they voted voted for us they want us here's what they think yeah but they won't disappear because they understand that you know getting caught red-handed doesn't mean that much in politics you know here i am tomorrow though they would say it wasn't red-handed because we didn't see him taking the money and and the worst abuses are less visual inlet and not illegal the the spending is horrible but it's all legal one of the new videos were making is who's proposals missiles will bankrupt the sooner and i was amazed research get nobody's keeping track of all these democratic candidates plus trump so we total that up and trump wants to spend another five hundred billion <music> i'm mostly on defense but horse but biden wants to spend much more booted each about eight times more right and the harris sanders and and warren a million sometimes more crazy why they want to give a thousand dollars to every american every single month they want to make energy production as inefficient as possible gonna make sure that you can get it <hes> with you know solar panels can't can't be nuclear power which is incredibly efficient and the greenest energy out there none of these things right it just makes it it's like they wanna live in caves john your website johnston dot com i know we call it you on the way out the door thank you so much for joining us bag year on free talk live check him out he's that's great videos on his youtube channel john docile dot com we've got even more coming up here from freedom fast twenty nineteen as we continue broadcasting on day number four this is free talk fellow uh-huh patriots my name is todd savage founder of black rifle real estate dot com like you i was a prisoner of the left sanctuary state until one day i chose to leave my family to freedom today we live on sustainable twenty acre homestead where we shoot hunt garden and home score children without the tyranny of the nanny state looking over us if you're ready to flee the city to the freedom of idaho montana are black rifle real estate team is here to help go to black rifle real estate dot com that's black rifle real estate dot com the genesis communications communications network is one of america's premiere broadcasters of 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what's been going on my little slice of it has been fantastic it's been nice nice talking to people meeting new faces here and including grover norquist welcome to freetalklive good to be with you it's new ian but i've had him on the edgerton post a couple of times i considered grover norquist's to be the greatest libertarian the an activist in america really probably doesn't call himself a libertarian thank you very much i usually call myself a small l libertarian yeah okay great and yes so you've got this tax pledge that you managed to hold the liars thieves in washington d._c. to oh it's amazing tell me about it well back in nineteen eighty nine hundred eighty six we try to pass reagan's tax reform bill we are worried that that people would stick tax increases inside the tax reform and they pop it on us at the last minute before people could actually actually read it your tax increase they would never do that yeah they try that at the state level all the time and so i developed the pledge which is a simple i promise to vote against an oppose any effort to raise taxes thing got one hundred congressmen and senators to sign it president signed it and then everybody knew we were not passing anything that penny tax hike it was actually a small tax cut and tax reform and then we realized in the nineteen eighty-six elections we had a powerful tool to communicate to voters that i really won't raise taxes go putting it in writing i'm signing my name and their two witnesses and it's dated and it's on the web than there are many copies of the pledge when bush broke it in nine date read my lips and that lost the presidency the other way of perfectly good presidency all because he lied about taxes young south from nineteen ninety-four on we've had eighty to ninety percent of all republicans taking the pledge in nobody's broke it because they watched bush go down and flame so that was a turning point in the modern republican party's history and hopefully someday the democrats will join well bush bush told me that he <hes> that the reason season was is that because of ross perot's the reason he lost the election ross perot got in the ross perot a joke as a candidate if the president had not broken faith with people on the tax cut there were why were people looking around for somebody else with figures that because the president had disappointed in that way which is the president ended the one that the war cold war he kicked iraq out of <hes> koei getting stuck occupying the place for generation he had a fairly successful presidency except for one hole in the bottom of about yup hey lied about taxes he raised taxes and they lost the election so how do you get new politicians to sign this pledge edge because i mean i mean this is this is a straight jacket on these guys yeah it's it's because they know and you the voter dow that it's a straightjacket that they put it on because they go to voters and say you know i'm never going to raise your taxes it's in writing writing and here it is it here's your copy of it and you can trust me but then they have to live up to that trust the good news is the republican leadership in the house in the senate and the vast majority of republicans have all taken the pledge so even if the guys didn't take the planet had impure thoughts at some moment moment about tax increases haven't been able to find any friends so do they <hes> do some of them break i mean what happens when they federal ever we haven't had anybody break it since bush wow at the state level they've been a few people have broken it and and <hes> voters orders of have talked to them but do you have some kind of campaign where you let people know that oh absolutely asked we spend a lot of time and effort leading anyone know we start letting their thinking about it <hes> the former presidential candidate <hes> romney was thinking announced he was thinking about a carbon tax and i and then his guys say well you didn't say was four you said he's thinking about it so i tweeted that if my neighbor said he was thinking about eating my cat that's not saying you'd eat the cat he's just thinking about i would leave the cat inside so and now <hes> romney's staff is saying he's not thinking about it anymore but thinking about the presidency anymore either sometimes when people have impure thoughts <hes> they need to be reminded not to do that and <hes> that was a little bit of a sad situation that that romney would get himself tricked into saying something like that you think you're sounding sophisticated because you're thinking about it jour-jour like other guys aren't thinking expensive how about other guys thought about it realized it was stupid pretty quick right so i mean i gotta say having been around for a few decades at this point it doesn't seem like governments getting any smaller i mean it's definitely getting bigger isn't it well <hes> depends how far you wanna go back when seventeen seventy four before the revolution americans were paying one to two percent of their income and taxes so there were also eighty five percent in poverty of them in poverty compared to the rest of the world not just right i actually would we run if not the richest country in the world at the time of the revolution close to it right we're paying one the two percent in taxes britain was paying twenty percent taxes and all americans own land i mean it was unlike european countries so <hes> we have had a challenge though as the government is drifted up particularly with their half of the government comes from four years in american history thirty four to thirty six new deal sixty four to sixty six great society right you add up all those programs and that's ten percent g._d._p. half of the federal government and that is what's growing it's even displaced the military <hes> as the big cost of government which it had always been before sure and so we have got to reform the entitlements so they don't go bankrupt cap reform them so that they cost less not more and reform them so individuals have control like with define contribution pensions like an i._r._a. 4._0._1._k. which most people in the private sector have rather than defined benefit benefit plans which are easy to turn into ponzi schemes and another thing that i think is worth pointing out here is that the government's not just taxation spending too and so they can raise spending but not raise taxes and that's why there's well the end dat rights so there's <hes> twenty two trillion dollars debt and one man which is you know what grover norquist has a little organization <hes> but i mean it's it's amazing the the stick that this little guy wheels you know he didn't go out and really <hes> bang thing these guys are the head but i mean let's the next organization the successful as grover norquist's here by simply creating the one that's about spending grover you stop them from it from taxing the good news taxes are one of the most powerful issues in american history going back to the tax revolt we do hey seventeen seventy six because they're adamant to freedom and that's what we've done is made it easy for an elected official say on taxes i'm i'm with you and to make a credible and you do know that i watched george herbert walker bush throw away as public career so you know i'm not thinking doing that that's not happening right if i take the pledge if i put it in writing then the desires for the state for more more power go into two areas one is spending and borrowing and the others regulations and so we need to come up with ways to put barriers and what trump is done in undoing a lot of regulations is very helpful but even more important we need to change some of the rules that say regulations can't make the government bigger only laws could only the congress because a lot of the growth of government was never voted on its bureaucrats writing regulation h._i. straight yes and so if we can get that reigned in which we need to do and deal with spending and right now the spending solution is the idea of block granting all of the welfare programs to the states putting him on automatic pilot not going crazy but just with inflation that alone saves trillions of dollars and would give fifty states competing to do it the best way we did a little of that with aid to families with dependent children welfare was again a little bit of the we did a little bit of the block granting to the states when clinton after vetoing the bill twice signed it then every state said here's the amount of money get a grows very slowly but you can do anything you want with the money to tell people to be able bodied added at work or what is it <hes> and we dropped cost her about thirty plus percent we need to do that with all the welfare programs from food stamps to housing and drop those costs as well what the pledge does do on spending is if you take taxes off the table at the at the only way you can deal with the deficit is to reform government to cost less when we went head-to-head with obama and twenty twelve he wanted to raise taxes one point four trillion dollars to add the republican said no you have to cut spending two trillion dollars over the next decade and what we eventually got was not a penny more in taxes is not a penny more in taxes who had a one point four choya but actual spending restraint and we went from twenty four percent of g._d._p. federal government to twenty percent of g._d._p. collapsing his plans now still too big and with an t- entitlements it'll drift back up if we don't do it but because we were in a time of crisis we refused to raise taxes the only thing you you'll be other lever you had on debt was spending and that we were able make progress on can you tell people where to go to support organization and signed the pledge if they're a politician oh absolutely our website is a t. r. dot org and this war americans for tax reform and you stick with us for another segment gerber maybe 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speech for more free talk live this is free talk live and archdeacon foul number two of the final night title broadcasting here from freedom twenty nineteen and i say night because you're probably listening after dark unless you're on the west coast which is actually where we are so it's kinda weird doing a show earlier although we've been recording it throughout the event because it's easier to do that with our guests we can just grab them when they come by like grover norquist's from a._p._r. dot org we were just talking in the last hour if you're just tuning in we were talking about government taxing the pledge that you guys have over at eight t. r. dot org various different politicians taken that you say surprisingly bracingly these lying scum have actually held to their pledge it's hard to believe over but interestingly there was a study done by university in washington state that found that saying you outrace taxes had no impact at all but writing in yes somehow they get people who i think would lie easily to us but they don't put it in writing interesting very so these are attorneys so maybe that means that means something to them there's actually organization in new new hampshire mark and i lived there that i think was probably inspired by you the coalition for new hampshire taxpayers and they do the exact same thing they work with them yeah yeah they have a nice event every year it's wonderful high levels of wanted to talk about your button you've got a really cool button on that it says tariffs are taxes that americans pay they are indeed when the country was formed almost the only taxes people paid were tariffs that was the tax it's constitutional it's in the constitution and people didn't like tears to be raised in south carolina in the ninety eight eighteen thirties this before the civil war eighteen thirties called out the state militia because of the tariff of abominations the high tariffs tariffs pass and the government pulled them back down again while they call the national convention which people from all states came to to talk about the cost of tariffs people focused a lot more on tariffs than because has it was a larger part of the tax burden that you're if you're only pushing back against one tax that's easier than pushing back against a high like one tax as opposed to many tax fewer taxes for just that reason that because they can raise each one a little bit and then you've got got a lot but if they have to come to you and say you see this tax it's going up everybody's focused on it and people can say no easier so the tariffs obviously are things here on free talk live or against every tax and every form very time we're against <hes> every three but we're we're against every government program they have that that's trotted out against them office coercive we're against but if it's called a program is probably unconstitutional agreed and <hes> but i mean obviously trump you know this strange feeling about trump i i like some of the things he's done specifically and foreign policy he's a he's attempting to make peace over in north korea he said in iran that <hes> one hundred twenty five iranians isn't worth one flying robot god you know there's a few things that he said that i really like that he's done <hes> do you have a similar sort of relocate relationship with the president i think you have to recognize it all politicians unless you run for office yourself yup you're gonna have disagreements with and you just have to balance them out i mean at the end of the day a republican president and a republican congress have changed the judiciary for twenty plus years into the future and that means that they won't be pushing america into bigger government matter of fact it'll drift a little bit back towards the center of where it should be the tax cut has been phenomenal economic growth <hes> very very helpful the deregulation movement movement has been phenomenal that that use of tariffs as a negotiating tool is disappointing and because the dangerous you get stuck with tariffs and tariffs are taxes with a domestic constituency when you've you've got tariffs protecting say steel mills the steel mills decide they like that tax and unlike most taxes we knew nobody fights no good people fight to protect you can put people in a position where their industry feels they want to keep the tax going it's just subsidy yeah yeah <hes> and what do you think is going to be the outcome i mean there's you know trump has some of the lowest numbers i've seen on president nothing i know everything <hes> i don't pay too much tension the pulse but i've heard from you know mainstream mystery media that yeah he's got some low numbers comparative to other presidents even though the economy's booming never been better what are your thoughts on the upcoming election here we seem to have <hes> every array of socialist that we could possibly choose from if we can get the agreement with china which ends the tariff war and get some progress on intellectual property i think you'll see the stock market really run forward the president's also looking to end the index and the tax on inflation and capital organs so it only pay capital again real gains basically cuts the capital gains tax in half on average and for people who are in the fifties and sixties and seventies by two thirds and three quarters because so much of that stock that you bought a nine hundred seventy sunday as the gain is inflation you only tax the real game you've cut the capital gains rate dramatically that will really supercharge the economy both ending the trade war with china and ending the taxation of inflation will give us a spurt long-term <hes> increase in growth that will be very helpful for the election the other piece of this is the democrats are running as a combination of george mcgovern and walter mondale george mcgovern picked up every left-wing i._d. code and said i'm for that dot w._w._w. england they're fighting the most unworkable programs that genuine and then the second part is walter mondale got up and said vote for me i'll raise your taxes and he carried one st minnesota so the democrats are all saying vote for me i'll raise your taxes and they're all saying the most liberal guy in town <hes> the last two times we did that it just didn't work very well for the democrat candidate i don't know that in a day of c. span and twitter and facebook where every promise tax hike is permanently on the record they can't walk that back with ending credibility once they've said this stuff on t._v. biden said he's going to repeal the whole tax cut ten times on video yep walk that back and i can't even imagine biden having chance i mean running around sniff at everybody's daughter's hair and the the one cudgel that they only semi reasonable thing about him it was close as he gets to vaguely normal the the cudgel that he has or the democrats have against trump is that you know he's got some fifteen year old quote where he's talking about grabbing women to where the sun don't shine or whatever and <hes> you know biden biden biden just nullifies all of that for them if they bring out somebody who's a little more palatable like warren <hes> you know she's she she hasn't seen attacks she hasn't seen a program that she doesn't love i i just i can't believe that the democrats are being so shortsighted that had this opportunity and they're they're they're gonna throw it away making the same mistake they made with hillary they think they can't lose they think they can't lose and as a result they're getting very sloppy hockey a caucasian and that cost the last time and i it it may save trump do with all the other challenges he has the democrats may help save on the economy's big but the democrats themselves may save him the democrats <hes> are there are big party and they have a lot of factions they're they're highly liberal <hes> white college student faction is very powerful right now because they didn't get what they wanted with bernie so they're gonna get it now and they're gonna find i believe that it just doesn't work that they're gonna they're that their their base some of some of their bases just going to peel away bernie's finding this out because he doesn't pay fifteen dollars an hour to his campaign worker or talking about going on strike man yeah it's always a joy working with that sort of situation that'll be hilarious at that comes about what do you do to reach out to democratic politicians i mean this pledge could be helpful to them how do you have that have signed it there some at the state level right now none at the federal level we had two senators and five congressman back in one thousand nine hundred ninety ninety two after the ninety four election both senators became republicans and all five of the democrat <hes> congressman who signed the pledge became republicans so democrats said to take it either just before they become republicans or just before they lose the next election and they think this is this is gra- grabbing onto to life support <hes> but it doesn't work if your whole life you've been raising taxes and then you promise it you know we'll we'll tell the world you did that but your ability to credibly sell people that that's your new position is divinity off for sure so you said you do have a form i eight candidates as well so we don't have to get our website h. e. r. dot org you can pull down the federal pledge pledge or the state pledge senate in will make sure the world knows that your pledge taker cool that's grover norquist he is behind americans four tax reform at a._t. are dot org thank you for sitting in with us here on free with you guys yeah it's been an absolute pleasure we're here at freedom fast on the final night and you can go to freedom fest dot com if you wanna learn more about this event and don't forget we're over at free talk live dot com gold has definitely been on the move recently 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the pain experience regardless regardless of what's happening in the tissue we think it's tissue problem most of the medical therapies out there addressed the tissue or their drug that gets people addicted and has side effects where approaching it from a completely different way yeah so many so many america has been swept with a this terrible plague of problems through opioids not to say that they can't be useful for people certainly there are people out there that that need them and take them in that kind of thing but so many have <hes> you know fallen prey to these as addictive drugs they are highly addictive as lawsuits are unfolding across the country against these drug manufacturers becoming pretty clear that they knew what they were doing when they were promoting these and essentially misrepresenting misrepresenting the the addictive nature that these drugs really have the unfortunate reality is that people do need they're desperate for solutions are desperate for relief and and they work in the in the short term but it really hasn't been until we've developed this whole addiction eh that we go holy cow mabley approach problem the wrong way so how are you approaching it over your your organization yeah the first obviously is to understand modern science and the brain zimbabwean and the paint experience and so the first thing is education and educating people about that and we give the first treatment in our clinics thanks for free so very low barrier so as paying they've tried everything they come to us desperate maybe skeptical and we educate them about that modern pain science with the focus back on who they want to be that combination of education and a reminder that they generate about the best of who they are as a person is life changing for many people it's not uncommon for us to see tears of joy in hopes to rekindle at that point where they're like oh my gosh maybe i don't have to be confined to this this body we then treat them again the first session being free through technology that allows us to send up artificial serve impulses via electrodes on the skin through the nervous system and those electrodes basically tell the brain no pain it's essentially like a reminder of what normalized paint should be and then through the principles of neuro plasticity or the brain's ability to learn through a series of repeated sessions we can restore the brain and thereby the body back more normal perception of pain to get relief that becomes lasting without drugs without needles without surgery and none of the side effects are risk of those things so this first free session the people go and they may experience pain relief but the brain needs sort of resetting over time and therefore more sessions yeah we would actually solve the problem in the long term it'll the first one likely will solve it in the short term is at the idea the first one in most cases gives them some level of noticeable relief or or change like okay this is something here but really as you mentioned a process that's borne out over time and if you think about eating a brain learns algebra or speaking spanish or even riding a bicycle it's a process of repetition and exposure well can you tell us more about the technology that's involved in this yeah the current technology that we work with is an f._d._a. approved technology known in the medical literature is scrambler therapy it's been research at the mayo clinic johns hopkins and other reputable institutions but ignored by mainstream medicine in part because most physicians are trained in pain signs from the nineteen sixties so there's a lack of understanding and then there's an economic disincentive in most cases for them to adopted so it hasn't found commercial success so what is the economic disincentive well it's multiple but if you're a pain doctor you make a lot of money doing the course of therapies that you do if you're not a pain dr you're just so busy and inundated ah that you just do the best you can get the person through the process and that typically means short office visits and less prescribe medication and good luck hope it works out so is it covered by insurance it's not as it doesn't yeah it doesn't sound like it is what <hes> have you have you been working with insurance companies are what what insurance companies think about all this well to be honest we aren't working with insurance instead we said how do we make this accessible and affordable to as many people as possible right and i spent about a decade in the hearing aid industry hearing aids are covered by insurance right they're not cheap and i thought well people spending that kind of money for hearing inlaws let's see if we can make affordable accessible to the i have no idea how much i mean i know i have some general idea how much hearing aids cost i would guess if they went through insurance companies said cost about ten times what they currently are well you know the insurance that's that's a long story but insurance is really kind of distorted the economic realities that both clinicians and consumers understand about what healthcare costs and it's it's changed everything so instead we've we said i think healthier businesses if you can create value proposition to consumer that they wanna open their walden and invest in that's a healthier dynamic anyway one hundred percent focused on if the consumer isn't wanting is doesn't want the product enough to pay whatever the price is that product isn't worth it that's what that's actually what value you is we have somehow gotten our minds twisted in the last one hundred years around medicine that somehow we all have a right to to to these therapies that in many cases don't work and in some cases f._d._a. they approved drugs will have effective effectively effectiveness ratio that slightly higher than a placebo and that's not cure for anything no magic in case a pain you're going to get doped up by alana these drugs yeah not good either blushing it's worked through the nose well the work but they create all kinds of addictive <hes> problems and you know then they're they're gone these you know on this these opiates all the time is this more affordable rebel than opiates right now well it's probably not more affordable to opiates because in most cases those are covered by insurance they may have been small deductible there are other their other drugs that are commonly prescribed that are more expensive and we're comparable to that or less expensive we sell it on typically a membership model and so around ten dollars a day over over time to get get maintain relief so when people understand that valid getting their life back and they contrast it to other therapies prices really actually rarely an issue for most of our clients how long does it take for the therapy generally to work is there is can can you answer that question yeah well again in the first session most people see some level of relief is them hope and then at least session in most cases for two or three weeks we average in eighty four percent reduction and paying which is a life changing amount of reduction when they've been paying for years or decades and in their mind in having probably truly have tried everything to try to get a better quality of life and haven't founded until now so ending thanks for joining us here it's brandon lunberg from radiant pain relief dot com really appreciate you being on freetalklive hit as we continue from freedom fest and not to mention the shutting backing the carpet three times a week frodo with scratching all my lawn bouncing on the side of the big keeping me awake whole entire night from all the scratching and chewing kinda makes you neurotic does your dog itch scratched stinker shed light crazy and hounds of for all over the place come to dinovite for help d. i n. o. v. i. t. e. dot com if you want the document helping you gotta feed company healthy dynamite is attrition the omega three fatty acids 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one of the speakers here the the myriad of speakers at this conference we can't talk to them all but we got you kevin you've wrote a written a book a few of them as my fourth book yes this new one is the constitution of great leader leadership in the twenty-first-century why has leadership important what a wonderful question leader everything rises and falls on the character and quality of leadership you for example great leadership we can have wonderful things happen and that's true in a business as true and a nonprofit that's true in a country poor leadership and we end up with fifty five million dad from a guy named adolf hiller has as a leader so it just goes on and on so it really is is key element everything everything is successful or not successful based upon how well we lead it because leaderships about people you can't manage people you manage the things you have to lead people to different thing altogether entirely different skill set right and leadership is important because not everybody wants to lead they wanna look to somebody to suggest what they should do and how yet everybody leads at some some level of people everybody is a leader you're relieving your own life that's for sure well and you're leading your family your leading something you know you're leading a little group co workers are our neighborhood watch of something everybody leads at some level right i think that people don't wanna claim responsibility of leadership just don't want to claim responsibility that is the leaders gift to the world is claiming responsibility taking responsibility is the leaders gift to the world and setting an example of course <hes> for other people to follow and emulate those things so how does the constitution tie in here you're talking about the u._s. consta- yes sir i did something i've never seen it done before a net was that i analyze the constitution from a leadership perspective as opposed to historical oracle illegal perspectives like everybody else does right and the reason i did that of course is because that's my area of expertise but i looked at that and i said you know what this thing is full of principles that that we can apply in our own lives in our own leadership up to improve and the proofs in the pudding this thing has been working for two hundred thirty years as the oldest written constitution on the planet all the others that exist or copies of this thing you know and so maybe we ought to pay attention to something that's been working that long maybe there's things in here that we can learn an example for example okay you know the preamble is is is the idea of a mission statement here is the framework one of the most important things leaders do is framing and what that means is i'm going to set up the the relationships between the people the relationships between the organization and the people whether it's a suppliers customers family members pick one to pass on your organization but that framework everything hangs on the framework and and so is the leader have to structure that framework and lay it out there that then creates that so when the constitution was i sent to the states it wasn't called the constitution was called a frame of government okay so what are the what can the individual individual <hes> who wants to be great leader learned from the constitution well a lot of things first of all the fact that these principles in my book came up with sixty nine of them <hes> i could've come up with more but the published said i only want it that big so okay that's how that's how big it was the publisher yeah well you know i mean hey there there are indigo river publishing as the publisher by the way and they that was that was their request so we have gone farther looks like just over one hundred pages yeah i've got some odd yeah it is basically it's a it's a flight across country flight and read it and that's the concert that's what they're looking for so what are some of these sixty nine principles of leadership that are in the well one of the i think really interesting ones is that organizations need very tightly defined boxes and and individuals need wide latitude to operate within and so what what the constitution did and the principle behind it is proven to make organizations more viable and that is that they give everybody wide latitude look if you've got a goal post to kick a field goal through in american football not every everybody's american american football where does that ball have to go to give me three points and the answers anywhere it can bounce off the gulf coast and still fall dribble through and i still get three points it can be five miles high because it's an infantry high box it could be perfectly right in the center or way on yeah it's the same three point so that's right and they're always name aiming for dead nuts but anywhere works so And everything else belongs to the states or the people so they have the latitude not the organization so whether that's your organization might have gotten beyond the box in in the case of the government I would I would I would agree with you question about and the idea here though is that this is why it's still operable. This is why still working so if I'm a leader and I'm creating an organization or I'm trying to turn around or I'm trying to just make make a dysfunctional family more more functional anything like that. I'm going to set some structures here and I'm going to allow some latitudes and and let people's innovation than fill in the blanks rather than try to micromanage everything and of course that's the problem we've got we've got a congress and of course the think they can micromanage everything. That's that's that issue but this is one of the things I just want to get your comment on in in the news media you'll frequently see them refer to politicians as leaders and I personally take this a- as an offense because I don't believe that you I think a leader is somebody that you choose to follow that has that somebody will follow on a voluntary basis because they're inspired by that person right as they value what they have to say and I don't feel you like politicians are leaders now for the most part because they are coercion. You know they represent violence they represent force and forcing people to do what they say the opposite of a leader of course it is and in effect in my book I talk about the fact that why our politicians such lousy leaders okay why are so many corporate executives such lousy leaders but the real kicker is why are we the people who are supposed to be the ultimate sovereign. Why are we such lousy leaders to allow these knuckleheads to there are the politicians in corporate <hes> heads? Why are they lousy leaders? What bad incentives incentives aren't the same as as everybody else's so? If I'm a politician my incentive is get reelected. That's it that's the bottom line and and the cycles are too short. Everything's short-term thinking if you want to to work well. You have to have a long view because I I want. I want my my my company for example to be making money thirty years from now. Okay okay when my kids are there and gone. I want that kind of thing happening. I do not want you know yes. This quarters prophets have a value but are they the most important thing absolutely not and so that's the bottom line you know you've got to have this short this this as long term and their incentives are all short term their incentives are are at most six years which is a short term and and at President your level four and at the at the house level that's only two years. It's it's too short term of of a an incentive in that sense the problem is is that they can keep doing it again and again being there for forty years so kick them out after a couple of terms and recycle put somebody else through is that how we make politicians better leaders by putting in term limits absolutely because <hes> because what that does is that is that first of all shakes up everything and it gives us opportunity to do something different I mean could could could there be unintended. Consequences is of course. Will they be worse. I doubt it seems doubt what could be my point. Yes you got. It and I don't think that this is something where we could really make serious mistake putting term limits. I I just don't foresee I see any possibility for any serious air right. I've always been kind of skeptical of term limits as a solution because I don't think it's a full solution however system baby step. I'll I'll take this baby step. I got an Ormond the book the Constitution of a great leader available now Amazon John Yeah as of last week it's brand spanking new. I by the way here at the event got a clear clarify this Kevin with a c. c. e. v. i. n.. O. R. M. O. N. D. and his website Kevin Orman DOT COM. Thanks for joining us here much more coming up here from free warning. 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Yes so I am the president of a group called Free People Dot Org which is a grip we created about four years ago and the goal was to reach young people I call them the liberty curious generation young people that don't know that they share a lot of our libertarian values in large part because they don't engage in political debates they don't they don't read little von Mises or anything like that. They consume content and its content about <hes>. It's about people it's about stories. It's about values. It's not about downward sloping demand curves or not restaurant principals. They WANNA watch somebody tied pot yeah. Why would have to watch which that the whole process? I'm told that the young people they're a bunch of socialists the one everything given to them because they've never worked day in their life. I don't buy that at all. I think <hes> and I've spent a lot of time sort of <hes> dissecting the language and the things that Alexander Ocasio Cortez and other young democratic socialist talk about and I think on the positive side you're looking at a generation that has grown up in a radically libertarian world they choose everything they live online. They curate their friends. They they shopped their music. I'm old enough to remember when you had to go to the sinkhole a record store to try to find the music that you wanted and it was never there anyway. <hes> young people couldn't conceive of that world where they didn't have infinite choice and it applies to everything they do it even applies to how they consume ideas and information aid in that in radically decentralized world. I feel like liberty. Ideas are more competitive than ever before and even when you look at someone like <hes> A._F._c. when she's when she's talking about about what she believes before she tax on we're going to nationalize the energy industry before we get a nationalize healthcare she talks about this bottom of vision. She has for people working working together at the community level to solve problems and she talks a lot about about dignity and respect and community and I'm like you're describing a radically libertarian world. This isn't socialism at all. Socialism is a very top down one-size-fits-all right somebody with a gun is going to tell you how to live your life and so there's that disconnect with them but I think that that ethos that that story that she tells us what's attractive to people in one of the things that we sort sort of suck out as libertarians as we think everyone read all the same books we did yeah so we want to quote macy's and Hayek and I'm guilty of this myself but if we could tell more stories and if we could sort of talk about those values of community and justice and dignity that come from liberty so do you when you tell the story is do I get your emails rarely but I can't say that I recall off the top of my head any of the the video content of what you're speaking of the stories about sort of the consequences. It's a quences of what happens once. The government gets involved <hes>. Is it like you know. Hey here's what the problem is and then here was what the solution was and here's what the problems with the solution that I mean lots lots of different styles of content because part of this is sort of hitter iterative experimentation because you respect your audience enough that they're going to tell you whether or not you've connected and whether or not this this story this video works so you'll you'll find you'll find more typical stuff on our website aside. We're actually do talk about Hayek but but then I'll go to a grateful dead concert and explain how Jerry Garcia and Hayek actually had the same concept of spontaneous order and letting people figure out for themselves we do a lot of videos about beer and beer to me as a metaphor for entrepreneurship ship. Here's been very successful. Recently you saw beer be very decentralized. Then beer came together to be extraordinarily centralized much of that having to do with the distributor model that was created after prohibition and people starts by the government. I mean you know what happened with prohibition was everything was outlawed then when it <hes> pro prohibition was destroyed than the distributor model comes in place in basically these are people you know drug dealers that have bought the licensed to distribute from the government and the government. They didn't keeps everybody else out. Then we have the microbrews coming in we're we're the demand for some different tastes that isn't <hes> American watered-down watered down beer is out there and at some point or another they had to acquiesce. They've attempted to take over some microbrews of the major <hes> companies taking over some of the microbrews and so it's you know it's the same old guy with a new face to face mask but yeah I agree with you. Beer is an incredibly good analogy. I wish I knew more about it. I I call it the beer industrial complex and it's it's it's always and that by the way is a beautiful metaphor for for public choice theory and how it is that that big corporations collude with the big business to destroy competitors choice and creativity but I guarantee your like you go tag at some Nanno brewery where some young guy is making a triple hops double. He's so passionate about it. He just just wants to serve it to his neighbors once he wants to show him is beautiful. Creation Eighty discovers that there's there's a middleman. That's going to prevent him from doing that. <hes> that kid probably was a democratic socialists until he realized that big government is is the barrier to him creating this beautiful thing so I love that metaphor news this endless things about that but you know that I it the ultimate point of that story is that there's a lot more people in our country in our world the care about beer than they do about downward sloping demand curves so why not use that metaphor to hook people in you know a lot of our videos about beard mostly just about how awesome beer is and how beautiful it is. There are some lessons about out free trade in there. There's some lessons about cooperation. There's some lessons about about the creative destruction of entrepreneurship but but it's mostly just about an awesome beer that's a great opener for getting people to pay attention to some ideas. They may not have considered considered or maybe he didn't quite connect the dots on yeah I mean that the takeaway and we'll go back to Alexandra Casio Cortez. She said something that we all hated but I think she's writing where wrong when she said that it's more important to be morally correct and <hes> morally correct than more butchering morally right than factually correct. It's more important to be morally right then factually correct. I do sort of agree with that. <hes> I mean. I like my facts as much as anybody but you do fifteen years there's of on the air radio you're going to be wrong right like and I'm talking about. Live Radio Your Jim come off the top of your head. You're going to remember something and you're just the fact is going to be wrong but no matter what the story is. <hes> you know what factual thing you got wrong with the story. Some story occurred like that in the last five decades that was exactly as you said it was because the facts just sort of move around for me freedoms the answer what's the question and so you know some unquestioned here another some fact here another might be you know in not appropriate and if somebody wants to call in and exactly about the facts I can do my best by looking at the story but I've had stories written about me multiple times and I know not one single of those stories was factually correct so happens all the time. Journalism is trying to paint a picture as best they can and these people aren't evil as much as they've been painted that way over time. They're just people trying to write stories that if they got something wrong oftentimes you can slip them a note and they'll change it for you right online. That's one of the great things about being online any now. They have a set of values. <hes> has a set of values. We have a set of values and in those values frame the stories that we tell and you know the the nice thing about being us as I I think actually factual reality lines up with the values of liberty but it goes back to that point that most people consume stories particularly stories about real people that they can relate to you and their values based stories and you know you can inundate people with facts and figures numbers Libertarians are great at this when we are about healthcare we will put up a spreadsheet that shows categorically that if if the government centralize is healthcare <hes> it's GonNa be a lot more expensive. People are going to stand in line the other CEO did that. The other side will tell you story a real story about a real mom whose daughter desperately needs some sort of treatment that that evil insurance company they wouldn't sign off on and and at the end of that <hes> me as libertarian. I'm like I want to save that little girl I hear you that's the story that we need to tell because there there are devastating examples of how governments unscrew real people right every single day we till the stories online at a little kid in Great Britain. That's trying to go to Italy to get some treatment and they won't even let him out of the country might actually live or whatever I mean. I don't know the story in the story is a great and then I present these to somebody somebody who wants single payer healthcare and you know they're just like well. You got a break a few eggs well. What about the insurance model? Why don't you break a few eggs there and hold that thought we can continue you stick with US matter more on the way here on free? Talk Live the Saturday episode of the program From Freedom Fest Twenty Nine. This is don't you hate that feeling in the pit of your stomach. 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I believe US fascist observers were quick to point out the president's version of Wednesday nights rally do not align with reality trump allowed the chance to go on uninterrupted for more than ten seconds before proceeding with his remarks in which he accused the democratic congresswoman of hating the United States saying they should leave the country off a decade long fight over the proposed construction of a giant telescope on a mountain considered sacred by some native Hawaiians came to a head Wednesday when thirty three elders were arrested for blocking the road to the summit activists post reports see most recent protests kicked off Monday when construction on the one point four billion dollar thirty meter telescope was set to began on Hawaii's big. I want astronomers say the mountain is one of the best places in the world to get a clear view in an attempt to understand the origins of the universe but some native Hawaiians revere the Mountain Eh sacred. 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McDonald's opens a new senior citizen play place is the onion news network freetalklive freedom past one nineteen were here on the final hour of this particular show which is the last day of freedom fast but the way these things work out we may he ended up having a whole nother shows worth of interviews because we're not done even though we're here in like you're listening to this on Saturday night. We're actually recording this on Friday so we've just been wall to wall with with interesting people to talk to and and Matt Kibi is with us here. We've been talking about reaching out to young people his website free the people dot org but targeting specifically younger people millennials Jim Generations E or whatever it is there being called <hes> are these your targets matt data very much so and and when we microtarget we're looking for people that are still in college. Maybe right out of college but you know the most of this is organic and and we we just reach everybody what's interesting about our data eight. Oh you know I used to be a tea party. Organizer Ten million years ago and the tea party got older and older <hes> and the typical demographic was sixty sixty five very white very male the demographics watch our stuff <hes> tend to be forty percent women sixty percent men which Jaren his usual yeah but you know the average age seventy percent is under thirty years old so we don't dictate that by manipulating audience that the style of content content that we produce it just the civically designed for you know the way they consume things in the mediums that they use these. Are these mostly shorts. Does you mentioned off the I think <hes> doing feature length Dell so like a whole range of it's it's the whole range of stuff in it started ended with short stuff because the assumption was young people have short attention spans. That's what they say. Whoever would they say but as it turns out it's actually facebook manipulating you to have a short expense attention span that that the feed is designed to make you not stay in one place and certainly not click on video facebook is not the place to do this but you see young people are leaving facebook and droves oh good and they're going to places like Youtube and Netflix Hulu and Roku and things like that because they're the the experiences less manipulated their curing the sort of content they wanna watch and you know guys like Joe? Rogan Dave Ruben all sorts of other guys like that. If you've chosen Joe Rogan you might listen to it for three hours so in that has nothing to do with this mythology the young people don't have the attention span. It's whether or not they chose to be there and facebook is not really a choice based platform. It's very manipulated so we're we're trying to migrate towards towards longer form content towards platforms where the algorithm doesn't manipulate and punish the style of <hes> ideology that we have <hes> you know when these <hes> Youtube <hes> producers out there. They're not producing three minute videos aspect I mean I I never see three minute video on my feet. I see a lot of twelve minute videos but when you look at say normal broadcast television Yueyang call the commercials out of a half an hour show you've only got an eighteen minute bit of <hes> of of content anyway so a twelve minute video is only slightly less than a half hour show was when we were growing up so we're we're we're showing films here and by the time <hes> the people listening to this here. This will probably have won all the awards. I'm pretty damn right now. We're GONNA need like a bigger set of luggage to get those awards home but it's tough you can ship them. One is in eighteen minute. Mini documentary called the right to bear three D. printers deals with with not only gun rights but First Amendment rights dealing with that stuff but defense distributed. I imagine appearance and what's what's interesting about that as we found a guy who who rebuilds he builds old weapons with is three D. Printer so he's he's a collector. He's in enthusiasts. He's a mechanic. He also happens to be a constitutional lawyer and what what makes that video work. I think is that people get to figuratively hold these things in their hands. They can see what a three D printed gun is. They can see why Chuck Schumer's claim that people are gonNA create automatic weapons or three printing is ridiculous and and it's it's specifically made for people that have never held a weapon plate. They can't make automatic matic weapons with three D. printers shocking why not be because they explode. Oh okay so the can maybe at some point though the technology could be there someday for sure okay for sure so the the laws never catch up fast enough you right now. There's youtube videos on how to make put together with existing stuff you can buy at sporting goods stores a an automatic repeating across about so full full rate Saudis. He's GonNa fly right through bulletproof proof vests and of the the kind that are made for pistols and that kind of thing and the Internet has all the stuff and politicians are way behind whether it's a three d printed gun or something you can build that you saw on on online the right to defend yourself self exists and politicians really can't do anything about it. They just can't stop it then. They're not fast enough but there's like an young people are no more anti-gun than any other generation but there is sort of that cultural divide where either you grew up comfortable comfortable around gone right here on your dad taught you how to shoot and it was no big deal or you've never seen a gun before and you're scared to death and the difference between New Hampshire Massachusetts exact justice exactly and by the way I go to freedom fest which is my favorite gathering and well-armed hippies. Were you there this year yeah yeah you were there for. I've met him but for people that are afraid of guns because they don't understand him. You get to see him. You sort of get to pick them up and give them a run so that's one of the other is very different. It's called State Award and it's a documentary about the fact that we've been in Afghanistan for for nineteen years and and what does the factors and what are the consequences of of of the the American war America's longest running time on state of war that's about twenty minutes and it features Rand Paul and Thomas Massey and some other smart egghead types. It's it's more of a it's. It's it's unusual for for us because it's an actual policy video that gets into facts and figures but it is. It's an issue that I would call transpartisan there. There used to be a lot of people on the left that were anxious about war. They're they're not as strong with that voice anymore but you know candidates like Tulsi Gabbard make a very compelling case as to why too many wars are just bad for American foreign policy. Tulsi Gabbard has been vilified by I mean already the hit pieces are out on a lady that has never broken one percent. They're they're coming out her with. Both barrels blazing whatever the left is about it isn't about antiwar and it isn't about that anymore and I think it's amazing. How they've you know they're they're not stopping at terms like quixotic like they did with Ron Paul? They're they're going after her and calling corrupt and a variety of things. I couldn't believe how they've gone after her but the the dynamic that most people don't notice on Capitol Hill you have guys like Rand Paul and Thomas Massey Asi Mike Lee and Justin Amash who's obviously no longer republican and they spent a lot of time working with with with people on the left Tulsi Gabbard even Bernie Sanders a bunch of other guys and they have found common purpose. Perhaps for different reasons. Maybe there's a fiscal responsibility reason to be against spending trillions of dollars in Afghanistan. Maybe there's a moral case that they were killing a lot of innocent people. Maybe there's a strategic case that this creates more disruption which creates other hotbeds for for terrorism and things like that whatever those are there there is there is an opportunity work with people across the political spectrum and I think young people we're getting back to our theme. They love the idea that you're not just team. Red Or team blew sure data. They don't want like partisan take because they know that that's all B.. S. They would love to have reasonable people from across the political spectrum argues things out hopefully find common ground on certain things <hes> those those that makes for good content for from our perspective so with I mean the Ron Paul Revolution Two thousand eight two thousand twelve it would there are a lot ought young people that were involved and that's where the tea party got its legs. That's how you got your name. As you know spokesperson for the tea party you're on a Bill Maher for many many for several years and then <hes> along comes <hes> Essay Bernie Sanders and I know people that were excited about Ron Paul. The McCain excited about Bernie Sanders. Can you explain this to me do less than thirty seconds yes so at a very superficial level Bernie and Ron or the same guy they're raging against permanent war their rage against crony capitalism. Their conclusions in their solutions are fundamentally different but they're both authentic and I think that's attractive to people young people or people in general young people generally but but I think it's attractive particularly see now you could sort of put trump in that category tommy sort of an anti politician politician. I'm glad to hear that people are seeing through the sort of left rights false paradigm at a younger ages free the people dot org. I presume you can link to the videos through the site Youtube Youtube or or for the people dot org very cool free the people dot Org check him out Matt Kibi sounds like some great contents and we're GONNA continue here. We got more coming up from freedom fest two thousand nineteen. This is this your dog itch scratched gretch stink or shed like crazy come to invite for help. Ordering Ninety days supply of dinovite everything we tried failed except the dynamite pickup two bottles of Supromega fish oil get the third bottle free packed with Omega Three D._H._a.. And E._P._A.. Fatty Acids <music> Supromega is great for your dog's immune system healthy skin and soft shiny fur dogs love it try Supromega fish oil by to get one free at DINOVITE DOT COM I N. O.. V. I. T. E. DOT COM. You Love Bitcoin. It's the the future right. Well no not if everyone stops using it. I mean think about it. How many places in your town take bitcoin one none? 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Talk Live where Freedom Fast Twenty nineteen for the final official night of this particular events but I suspect the interviews are likely going to continue into some amount of tomorrow night's show. That's the way things are seeming given that we're actually recording Saturday night. Show on Friday afternoon <hes> so we'll have a whole other day ahead of us of other people that we haven't spoken with yet who knows who else we're GONNA end up with here but we got all kinds of movers and shakers in the the liberty world including a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. Dr Jeffrey Singer is with us here. Welcome to the show Jeffrey happy to be here. Yeah appreciate having you so you're an accomplished surgeon urgent and apparently you know some things about the opioid crisis that's going on and I want to tell you a story. That happened to me. <hes> I was at the doctor and I had some kind of injury they gave me. Maybe it was just something wrong. They gave me a script script for oxycodone. I slid back across the counter to him and said No. I think I can handle this level of pain without any kind of painkillers and I just prefer not to have it and I don't want it out there in the in the wild so you just keep it and I took responsibility for my pain at that moment and I kind of wonder when I see Oklahoma suing the drug manufacturers and these sorts of things. I wonder how much of this is in fact the drug companies you know maybe telling things that aren't necessarily necessarily true and versus just people who didn't take responsibility for their medical care and made it. Maybe the medical industry is responsible for that in some extent and then I think about the government and their drug war so can you help me cleanest place. It's none of those okay okay. Tell me okay in fact and this all of the the OPIOID Socal opioid crisis really a prohibition crisis. Okay <hes> the <hes> all of these attorneys general who are suing drug companies saying they lied the fact is and this is not controversial among the scientific community. The overdose rate from an opioid from oxycodone for example is less in one percent. Okay okay it. If you took chronic long-term opioids for pain. Your chances of dying is about the same as your chances of dying from taking daily Aspirin for cardiovascular health chronically anywhere the biggest studies show about a half percent over those rate okay some studies show zero point one percent and are they accidental overdoses or purposeful overdoses. I saw usually they're accidental because he's in patients who are taking the medication and they accidentally for example took it with something that they were instructed not to take it with all YUP whisker potentiate yeah dead drinking alcohol with the oxycodone thing is that most people miss equate addiction and dependency. They're two different things okay. There are several types of drugs where when you've been taken him for I stretch your physiology changes and you become chemically dependent on it so that if you withdraw you go into withdrawal <hes> hope you always are one of those kinds of drugs kemp so our betablockers that people put on for high blood depression if anybody listening was put on a Beta blocker fry blood pressure. Your doctor should have told you that if you WANNA stop that talk to me I because we got a tape you off or you can go into fatal withdrawal antidepressants there. I'll keep that in mind Amaya high blood pressure medication so nobody would say you're addicted to Beta blocker for your blood pressure right now. Addiction is a behavioral disorder that has a genetic component. It's a compulsive disorder and it's it's defined as compulsive use of a substance or engage. It's not just the substance it's not the drug it could be addictive gambling for example for the Internet. I hear you addicted to the that's controversial but it it's a compulsive disorder where you fuel. Can you continue to do it. Despite negative consequences facebook it's like you can't do. I understand sometimes you can't stop yourself. So you know a classic example you hear about a person who's addicted their their their marriage world God they lost their job really down and out and they know they gotta get get this thing on control and they promise themselves they're going to and then he just can't that's addiction that he addiction rate the Dixon potential of opiates depending on who you read which study you've seen anywhere from one percent three percent so when you hear about all these people who are quote unquote addicted to opioids they really just developed chemical dependency okay. There's a big difference that fact is so so if the pharmaceutical comes to lying about that they weren't weren't lying but the fact is that <hes> <hes> the that what's been called an over those crisis would not even using opioids the did the deaths enough from opiates anymore there from the seven than last year in two thousand seventeen when the C._D._C. gave its annual report seventy five percent of opioid related overdose deaths were Phantom. Clean Fanton wasn't opioid. No that's the point okay. Hope is a classification of drugs. Sentinels and opioid heroin is so another thing when you hear the press say there's people die from opiates. You're picturing with like most people would that this is a prescription painkiller. No only about ten percent a dying from that about ninety percent of people die of quote Unquote opioid Wade Related Overdose Steph have multiple drugs on board including heroin fenton alcohol tranquilizers cocaine is in last year's religious. Kill Belushi exactly the latest number that preliminary women. Our noses came out this week from the C._D._C.. Thirty two percent of OPIOID related over those tests had cocaine in it so these are not patients. They're getting hooked on drugs by drug addicts right now. What what what happened is we really good? Study was done. It came out last year from University of Pittsburgh School of public health. They were able to go through the data from the C._D._C.. Going back to the nineteen seventies and what would they found this plot. You could go google it case University of Pittsburgh. <hes> Luaka was named Jalal J. L. A. L. and <hes> they found that overdose deaths have been on a steady exponential increase since the seventies really and is no end inside joining US changed over the years it would strug is in vogue at which time for example right in the late seventies early eighties was heroin track then became cocaine and <hes> was Vica than in the early ninety s then diverted which means taking away from the medical doctor stream prescription painkillers became very popular nearby Dan as the source of diverted prescription opioids start to get the dry from government intervention the price went up and heroin became much cheaper so then the became heroin heroin and now we're back to now we're defending and Meth is backed by the way and cocaine so the point is there's a population of people who are we call non medical users that's professional but a lot of people actually are medicating indicating self medicating either for physical pain or from emotional pain it could be a coping meccas already could be just enjoying it. What about the people who take heroin because they can't get those over the counter drugs that they were getting and they did more dependent? We'll we're starting to see more and more desk because the government is pressing doctors to cut back on prescribing opioids actually arresting doctors. Yes yes and US doctors are saying I'm out. I'm not prescribe menial boys anymore. We want to go to jail impatient. Sorry Myrtle I understand you're in pain in but I just I'm not a long-term opioid withdrawal from that could be worse than the pain and is sometimes in desperation attorney to the black market now. I don't have to tell this audience that <hes> prohibition doesn't doesn't stop what what you WANNA do. It just drives it. Underground Mason worse makes it more dangerous criminals of normal everyday people and I think rush limbaugh really great example of what can happen to somebody. Here's a guy as you know working every day but he's got this problem. 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Freetalklive more from freedom Radim fest one thousand nine hundred and you can go to freedom dot com learn more about this event and I'm sure they'll be announcing twenty twenty at some point so stay tuned to that website. It's in and mark here in our remote studio and of course you can always freetalklive dot com. If you're just tuning in tonight for the first time in several days you can go back and listen to Wednesday Thursday and Friday and you can get the full boat of all the various different interviews that we've had here which of course is only a small fraction of the amount of great speakers and folks that they actually actually have here on the stage performing at Freedom Fest into forget to go to freetalklive dot com. We are still here with one of the speakers from freedom best. He's Jeffrey Singer. He's a doctor from the Cato Institute. One of the senior fellows like the right terminology so we were discussing prohibition we were talking about doctors and the the government threatening them and arresting them for prescribing medication pain relief medication and you were telling us that some doctors are just throwing throwing up their hands and frustration saying I'm not going to prescribe these things anymore and you. You can't blame them. They don't want to go to jail over there right sure but what's happening. This is based upon this crazy idea that people got hooked on drugs by their doctor prescribing adding for them but the fact is it has happened we we've we've talked to people absolutely there's a difference be as I was saying early between being dependent and being addicted a lot of people mistake the to even on themselves <hes> and we was when you addicted. It's like I say a compulsive behavior. Despite self destructive negative consequences and again among the scientific literature the evidence is that the actual addiction rate for prescription opioid is between one and three percent and the overdose rate is between point zero one point zero four percent and when taken by under medical supervision as directed right right and I imagine back win. opioids were completely legal. Can you could get heroin and the sears catalog. This nation was founded by people who had founded and built and made strong by people who had legal access to opioids not that I'm advocating for this necessarily but I guess I am I should do opiates but I'm saying hey look doc opioids or one of these. They're useful tool and YUP. It's dangerous not here to push opiates but I gotta tell you they're safer than alcohol. The person's been on alcohol chronically and heavily think kill their liver can kill your brain can kill your heart and give themselves cancer chronic opiates. Mainly you give yourself constipation. His kidneys kitty hung out in fact policymakers are pushing doctors to put their patients on non steroidal anti inflammatories like Ibuprofen and that kind of thing as as an alternative to opioid more dangerous tylenol is a lot of people know by now can kill your liver and his doesn't have any proven a pain treatment benefits is mainly useful for cheating fever and non steroidal like ibuprofen that could not that that can give you ulcers of course and it could suppress your bone marrow production of blood cells but it could also kidneys very well known to do that so taking relatively high dose chronic insights actually is much more dangerous to your body than opioids now if you're gonNA take opioids then it's not smart to mix them with Fantino cocaine heroin alcohol. That's when things happen and that's my point all along has been that they're trying to blame the overdose crisis on doctors getting patients hooked on prescription painkillers within becoming addicted and dying when in fact the people who are dying or people who are using in the underground markle drug addicts on the streets and some of them may be now there is evidence a lot of desperate patients who are being cut cutoff in desperation turning to the street Yep and when you as we all know when you go to the underground market you don't necessarily know what it is. All of Feno Matt's fueling the overdose the overall majority what would those now are fenton. Oh this is will be the better better called illicit fennel because the manufactured by Pharmacy Fenton. Ill is mostly used intravenously in hospitals and it's also the most popular as prescribed as an outpatient is skin patch where it's slowly absorbed over your skin about three days. It's not used it's not very it's not manufacturing to foreigners for your suitable if you WANNA use to get high so the according to the D._A.. itself almost all of the fence coming in this country is in powdered form is coming in oftentimes through the mail. It's being ordered on dark. Web is manufactured mostly in labs in Asia and Mexico. It's coming in through ports of entry so a wall ain't going to stop it and <hes> and then the the dealers are using it to cut with heroin. We all know the Iron Law prohibition when things are prohibited the economic incentives to make your product more potent so if you're going to smuggle it you could you get more bang for your buck and also subdivided more into more particles and that's where hard liquor came from right alcohol prohibition. You weren't smuggling in beer wine smuggling whiskey because you can prohibition Americans consumed beer and wine much greater rates than they did hard liquor but hard liquor is concentrated is easier transport. That's how crack cocaine came to be right. It might not have even come into existence. Were not for crystal Meth Net were not for prohibition so so the the prohibition is by the worst rate and when I'm constantly saying every place I speak in everywhere I write is if you WANNA solve the overdose crisis you got for an prohibition absolutely because then when you see you buy something you could actually shop around you could ask questions out in the open. <hes> people could share information like they do with alcohol right and you're also if you are addicted. The stigma of helping going and looking for help is not there the fear for the addict of if I go and I look for help them are they gonNA turn me in you know just rest down upon his as an attic when in fact that's another point I make their many as we all know functioning addicts in fact you're in Saturday this June twenty-first Wall Street Journal. I have a letter to the edits published. Really I reacts to op-ed that was in the paper. The previous Saturday about William Wilberforce the great British statesman who was responsible for ending the slave trade in Britain many years before it ended in our country and he was an opium attic. He was a functioning opening attic and nobody had a problem with that and in my profession I'm a surgeon and the father of American Surgery Halston. He was Johns Hopkins the Early Twentieth Century he was the one created the idea of residency program and much of what we do to this day in surgery techniques and approaches he developed he was probably the the great modern American surgeon while he was a morphine attic. While most of his professional life early part of his professionals use a cocaine addict then he became a more morphine attic. Everybody was cool with that. There are plenty of functioning addicts out there and if you of course if it was not illegal then those addicts who feel is destroying their life and want to get help. Don't have to be afraid to get help but you're also a whole lot of people many of us know some people who are addicted. Let's say to <hes> uh to alcohol or caffeine or nicotine. How many Americans are addicted to caffeine or nicotine in rates? That's moving and hopefully we don't him but we don't look at them like they're evil you know people whose who's brains have been hijacked by some evil drug and they're not looking to knock you over and steal your wallet because they're legal drugs and they can afford it with normal job. It's some of us as friends may be worried about them that we think they're hurting themselves and we will offer offer help but if they say it back off I'm happy with we respect that right and that's the way it should be absolutely so Oklahoma's prosecutors are going after drug companies. <hes> what I find interesting with this is the here the people people who prosecuted the drug war over the course of decades now pointing fingers at an Organization for Pad Marketing and saying hey hey hey hey hey we're going to get billions from you because you're the bad guy here when I mean there's four fingers point Mecca. Could you well. I don't know enough about what these drug companies have done and I don't want to. I'm not here to defend them. I just tell you that it's obvious should be obvious anybody. These are politicians his grandstanding to try to further to careers they need to scalp. They need a bad guy and they want to also get a cut. They want a piece of the action so it's a shakedown and it's not GonNa Change anything because I think I mentioned earlier research has shown going through the government so numbers <hes> <hes> and it's those WanNa look this up I- I published in the Journal of Pain Research Appear Review Journal Medical Journal back in February of this year <hes> we looked at government data going back as far back as it was available which starred in in two thousand two there is absolutely no correlation between a number of prescriptions written <unk> thousand population any incidents of non medical use or the development of opio use disorder <hes> since from two thousand relationship right the governor national survey and Drug Use and health conducted by the an idea since two thousand to pass months non-medical use of prescription pain reliever by adult unchanged also passed your Diago Jeffrey Singer thank you there's more coming up anytime any place anyway. 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If you missed the event this sheer well you can always go to freedom fest DOT COM to learn more about it. I suspect given the amount of people attending this year. They will likely have another one in twenty twenty so we're here in a remote studio at the Paris Hotel in Las Vegas by the way it is Ian here from Free Talk Talk Live. Mark had to step away but that's all right because I've got alf with me. No not the character from television. Although that would be particularly entertaining <hes> we do actually have alf timmy from freedom economics dot COM alf welcome to free talk live right. You've you're going around here at the convention. You've got a palm card that you're handing out and it's got no taxes got the no symbol on the word taxes that slashing through it. Obviously this is going to get a lot of attention. People are going to like it. I like the idea of no taxes. Tell me about it well. I believe that this economic idea is sort of the biggest thing that has come along since Adam Smith's wealthier nations the idea that you're promoting yeah okay this getting rid of all taxes there's thirty thousand taxing agencies in the United States including state local and federal okay and counties Municipalities Water Six thirty thousand we have and they all throw a lot of paperwork at business people which takes time which takes time and it takes a lot of employees right because of the income tax alone there are about sixteen percent of the population is how involved in the income tax you know those are the people that cut down trees to make the the paper to print attacks forums or the people that do the printing off the tax forms. Did you say sixteen percent sixteen percent. Wow where does that number come from. That's <hes> employees off these texting agencies uh-huh and then like spin off of like people that have tax lawyers. You know that tried to help you to pay as little taxes as possible right okay so H._&_R.. Block those people and then there's mountains <music> tax havens you know they try to get you to have a bank account in a tech shaven countries so you can avoid attacks or evaded sure there's all kinds of <hes> businesses that are you know it's a tremendous tremendous amount of effort a tremendous amount of time and not even you know just trying to calculate the amount of time that just the tax payers themselves yeah <hes> spend filling out forms and reading instructions. Just compliance is more than than more than a trillion dollars compliant but how many hours it must be a race so I you have a plan of eliminating those thirty thousand texting ages but anybody with an I._Q.. Of about one hundred or more immediately decides that it's impossible because you know governments needed money to run in their their bills to pay them meals and they can envision any system of government that can do it without without right well. I have found a way all right how to do it without tax. Presuming zooming you WANNA keep a government around at all. I mean on this on this show. Why do I do? We don't go ahead please. Let's hear the plant yeah but <hes> so the Federal Reserve is creating money out of San Aer all day long <hes> to the tune of literally trillions of dollars per year and a Federal Reserve was created in one thousand nine hundred thirteen with the Federal Reserve Act <hes> that that Woodrow Wilson signed into law. That's right so I would like to start with repealing that Federal Reserve Act All right you know we late we got into permission and repealed it. You know what happens if if you were to end the Federal Reserve what would happen to the dollars that are in circulation at that point they they would be just exchanged for the new dollars debt now we the people will be come M._d.. Creators off this money House Federal Reserve being out of business right and now we the people will make our own money so we never have to borrow any money to money to remake is ours because the Federal Reserve issues notes notes which are evidence of debt so they're not actually they're not backed by silver anymore for instance like they were once upon a time and we the people will do the same thing if the Federal Reserve can create money out of thin air we do people can do it and we'll do it. By in the Treasury Department the Treasure Department will take over that function of creating money out of thin air now. Why would that be something? That's valuable. I mean at creating money out of thin air is basically you know what leads to inflation because they played money supply and rush then more dollars chase the same amount of goods and that results in higher prices and limiting inflation to fifty percent of two five percent. I've percent per year and your yeah okay so if if the inflation Asian rises above five percent then the Treasury Department will stop creating money for a couple of months or so <hes> because in a couple of months it will have dropped below five percent again in inflation is really not a bad thing thing <hes> we always have been taught that is very bad thing but it isn't. It's only a bad thing for people that hold a lot of money which is usually bankers bankers they hold a lot of money you know and if that money against worth less they lose but we the people on average we owe money we have home. Mortgage part of the reason is because inflation exists people are disincentivize from saving. I mean if your money is right down in value. You're not going to save a good thing right well. Shaving is is good for certain individuals. They want to save up for something right yeah but in general saving is not a good thing food economy money has role circulate. You can save your money by putting it into a bank or into an investment in all of that and then maybe you could may turn it into to even more money at that point but look so album you've been following it. All with crypto currencies the SL. What do you think about those <hes> very confusing for people <hes>? I think we should stick with something like the dollar because everybody's already used to it. If you have to start pricing things in cryptocurrencies Yup storekeepers sticking never never keep up with it sure because rates have changing it fluctuates so much you know it's it's it's not a wise thing it and very confusing because a lot of cryptocurrencies. Will Compete for the business so now you have humpty dumpty currencies around yeah. There's two thousand people have to learn about <hes> and you know what they're worse. They would have to check on windy on the stock market in everyday. What is it worth today? So what is it. Let's go back to the the idea of switching to the Treasury Department rather than the Federal Reserve. What what is it that you feel is significantly different about that proposal because has either way are we talking about a politically connected group of men and women arbitrary decisions for the economy yes but currently we are mooring money from the Federal Reserve and the government government's borrowing the money? Yeah all those governments you notice thirty thousand governments. They moral money order float months. There's also borrowing money right with this system here. We don't have to borrow any money because there's if we if we create the money out of ourselves through Treasury Department we don't have to Lord hours right way back. We never have to pay it back and we never have to pay interest on it. You know currently what whatever's collected my income tax as the interest page the interest effort about them nothing more yeah so this also the Federal Reserve System as you probably know in <hes> with its it's member banks allows for fractional reserve banking where the banks candidate create more money yeah this also allow for that or no longer allow for that Oh more fracturing reserve lending okay because that's another creation creation of money out of San Aer you know by however many thousands of banks there Oh yeah and defended reserve actually arranged for this system of fractional reserve lending Oh yeah to all the member banks you know so to tell yeah it's a cartel and it's very corrupt and the Federal Reserve is a is a private <hes> organization. Is there anybody in D._C.. That <hes> championing this do you hell hell. No no no no. No I mean first of all we have to understand that the people that supposedly representatives in Congress they're not representing us at all or Snot they represent special internet much more interested in bankers and you know people like the money the people that they get money from you know because how does works is the people that run their whole economy from behind the scenes. I gave him a name crosland. A massive asked appropriate to use you know I wish we had more time off but we are out of it. For this episode of Free Talk Live folks can go to your website that will learn more at freedom economics dot com and that's where you can connect with Alan Day should do that after August I we got more on the way here probably tomorrow night on free talk live from freedom. This is a special alert for business owners. Consultants Coaches folks planning retirement entrepreneurs and anyone who has saving an investing to build a financial financial future. 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You know just so no owens disappointed or no one wasted their time just going to get right ahead at the beginning and say it excuse me it's allergies are pretty bad so I sound pretty nasal. Have everything's been bad the heat never thing and it's like I want to river today. I want to Dave's place stream you know I wanted to do some exercises. Do some swimming swimming against the current and you know it was very strong current last last time. I want her because a rained a lot but I I didn't didn't realize current the water level would go down. I couldn't even swim in the fucking thing it was it was awful. I just all I didn't understand waist-deep in the water and you know versus rocks everywhere else so anyways. Unfortunately I didn't know Novak this week. Ian would be in you know it's during a heatwave he would be in Las Vegas Nevada but so we weren't were unable to test out the call system so it's just GonNa be monologue logging again or soliloquy again river reside like to call it but actually I it's. It's it's the best that I have it like this. Just because I have so much I want to get to today. I mean like I used to Ni- I didn't really I could never really really go into the whole Epstein and a pedophile connection and everything before because I was worried about defamation suits and things but now that it's come out and it's official police reports and everything it's legal documents and everything's fair game aim. It's great so I'm going to continue talking about this so I have here in the title of episode for today is going to be Info horse because I'm going to talk about the allegations or you have a big over the evidence Indi- that Ed Jeffrey epsteins his shenanigans that happened on his island and in his mansion his New York mansion were part of a blackmailing ring that goes back off away to the fifties pretty much yeah goes back to Roy Cohn who was the Pri- he was Jesus can't talk today. He was the attorney who helped Joseph McCarthy Sue all these different people boy and he soon do over legal proceedings during the red scare in the fifties Huma HVAC hearings house of un-american Activities Commission then he got fire as put a position at the age of twenty three rights of twenty three. He's like you know one of the most powerful lawyers in the American government then he gets fired because he I think it was tim I have in front of me but we'll actually will get into it. <hes> so anyways Roy Cohn who is the mentors to both Roger Stone and Donald Trump and who gave themselves have ties to Roger Stone escapes has ties to Nexium and then via the tests ties Busta Bronfman's the Bronfman for the Seagram for family fortune airs Canadian billionaires and I think for like a richest people in Canada anyway so they have family members being implicated in both I think maybe I think both the Epstein case and nexium definitely nexium and Roger Stone did some consulting for nexium and he's been tied with DC Madame who mysteriously killed herself and her cell because she obviously had blackmail on most probably most politicians in D._C.. Go and I guess like you'd have like real depraved. Ones who would go with Epstein and do all the stuff with what was you know Steph. I'm not going to repeat but then you just have you know for regular perverts who just decide to say perverts. That's a little bit too judgmental but just a regular guys who just wanted to go have sex with prostitutes so Roger Stone was tied in with <hes> tied in with her and by admission to he admits vis and he tried to whitewash on infowars Tyson nexium which pretty much also was a blackmailing operation so we're going to be talking about that. I have this article here. Hidden in plain sight for shocking origins thousands of Jeffrey Epstein Case Epstein is only the latest incarnation of much older more extensive and sophisticated operation that offers a frightening window to how deeply tied the U._S.. Government is to modern day equivalents of organized crime so I'm go. I'm GonNa read bats later in the our have a few articles here that I felt was important to go over vers one about why post colonial theory is not helping Hong Kong and just I haven't seen I've actually been watching cable. I believe it or not <hes> recently am saying my parents place so I haven't seen too much about the Hong Kong pretty much protesting because the mainland communist Chinese government but economy dot com who run Hollywood allegedly according to Jones they want to exert more power for those of you who are unaware Hong Kong was a British colony for a period of time and then they decided to not real review decide to handed over to the Chinese and it had a period had like it was it was a special specially administered region. I believe they call it where they have like human rights and it's not under communism and that's why it's so such an economic powerhouse there because it's not communists although many of the government's rinse the Chinese government's pretty much fascist at this point just because it's life from my understanding and like you know mainstream sources would say too but the Chinese have abandoned the communist economic policy and very innovative like state capitalism which I think even beyond like they're very you know putting of extreme unfair and very overprotectionism. It's like Norinko which is a company that made pretty decent inexpensive western her knockoffs or Chinese knockoffs of western Western designed guns it was owned by General or something so the biggest private arms manufacturer in China Zone by General so it's that kind of deal there but it's going to be talking about that going to be talking about. I I'm enjoying the what's going on the U._K.. With the wherever it's going to be a conservative or liberal I don't think or maybe labor. I guess I haven't really heard him talked too much about the British Liberal Party but it's pretty much it's GonNa be a fight between conservatives and labor and so I have here Farrah Nigel garage the architect of Brexit Labor quote signed owned deaf Warren by backing second referendum so it looks like the Labor doesn't as an understand the concept of a referendum because you know just be as disagreed with the outcome make some think that makes them that they could have a second one to change in by now just be as people know ver not going to let them have brexit right I mean but people voted on it so inferior should have happened but they kept postponing it because of quote trade negotiations which if anyone seem to phantom menace as many times as I have always beans. That's that's bullshit are at least smokescreens for something else for deeper control my favorite star wars for a period of time when I was younger just because he was like the first one that was available for rent when when we we own was a child yet the video store and so I saw them inconsequential order so I saw phantom menace as my first Star Wars van episode to episode three and then four five and six so I guess I I did what my dad was. She could've done watching consecutive anyway so that's about the anecdote but I want to go back. I have in so along with all of that. I have a bunch of the I guess I'll go through them for all related articles on trump's ties to epstein my chain sort of like I changed. I don't think he is going to got to be careful in an apartment can't speak too loud about this stuff. I used to think that trump was going to be taken down by this but I think but he's not he's not defending himself to vigorously. He's not protesting too much and from what I've seen especially regarding to how how much they're using or at least Netanyahu is using this to target you who'd Baraka who like literally just started a new campaign to try mayb not literally just if I say literally makes me sound like a teenage girl but who very recently right decided to run against Netanyahu Netanyahu's who's going to face a contested election again I think in the fall suddenly this comes out and here we go in Vanunu's who'd Barack caught going into Epstein Epstein Sever Mansion The island after office came out it. Was this question for you. Don't go away. We'll be right back with all the documents I got. The documents sell four one. One is a free APP for Android I._O._S.. 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I think so thank you for well. Thank you for that okay so got the housekeeping out out of away and so I'm just going to dive right in to this article here this I had hearing her. It's article and it's Oh it's five nineteen A._M.. In Israel right now it tells us that on the site so this is going to read this article that speak for itself and comments when comment when necessary despicable Epstein article may be Netanyahu's <hes> who's doing Barack hintze campaign event four and so some of you might be asking we'll into. Why are you talking about a foreign foreign nations election? Well you know you will all you'll see the importance of this and since I said I'd research during the commercial break <hes> Roy Cohn was kicked off or yeah I was went into private practice and left the McCarthy hearings due to he alleged Rod. No it's alleged or not but he the story is he threatened the army he wanted one of his people put into a position at the army they refused and he threatened to wreck which it ties into over accusations about him in a blackmail ring but in the meantime GonNa talk about this <hes> the Israeli election who'd Brock Oh the main reason talking about this is how many American players are involved did this and so here despicable Epstein article may be Netanyahu's doing Barack Hinz campaign and then former Israeli prime minister calls Daily Mail report blood libel as Lawyers Demand U._K.. Tabloid Retract Article and Pay Damages damages over photo is a convicted sex offenders New York home. You who'd Brock slammed a British tabloids report insinuated but he may have met with young women in New York Mansion of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein on Wednesday during a statement statement he made in Tel Aviv he denied the veracity of report hinting and maybe a Minister Netanyahu's doing and also attacked the way he has been portrayed in the press quote at despicable acts has been committed in Israel a false and baseless blood libel Barack who's currently running for Knesset as we head of newly established democratic Israel party said he also took the opportunity to lash out a Netanyahu who jumped on the opportunity to Besmirch Barack after Epstein was arrested earlier this month because of their known ties of each ever so I have to say like just the amount of of fighting back right like a starving dog makes me think the lady dauth protests too much regarding all of that and it's like if you see the picture of him he's he's like his face is totally covered wearing dark sunglasses. He's wearing like a Hoodie. He's wearing a scarf around his face totally unrecognizable with women he had like several women following knowing him so that's what he looked like so he looks incredibly shady going in there and I was in twenty sixteen. I believe well quotas so he continues. We have been living for twenty five years in Israel in an atmosphere of fear in which anyone who tries to replace place Netanyahu becomes a trader or even worse brock asserted in reference of a prime minister and so I'm going to actually I'm going to get into the atmosphere of fear in Israel in future article here yeah actually talk about in the second hour. Be I mean because it's important it really makes and it's a former Israeli lawmaker. Actually he's talking about the atmosphere of fear Earvin Netanyahu takes advantage of and it explains a lot of stuff like the war mongering against Iran the settlements in the West Bank and everything serious stuff but I always like I can't can't divulge too much from this. GotTa gotTa get for so from David Levy whose only sin was to stand for the Likud leadership and who's betrayal of Netanyahu turned him into a senior Likud officials surrounded by enemies and loved the Likud party's Netanyahu's party Vo Fru Yitz Hack ray-ban who was prime minister prime minister until he fell by three bullets in the back which were product of lies in incitement Jeez. I wonder what it was the same with Mayor De gun in his day in recently Benny dance a target of despicable campaign of lives who only wanted to lead Israel back to normality a Likud party spokesman commented quote Vissali won't let Barack escape having to explain to Israeli citizens what he was doing in the home of his convicted pedophile to file friend Jeffrey Epstein and why he received from his foundation two point three million for research but never existed meanwhile. I mean good and that's that's a good point. I mean like who'd parties despicable but it's a very good point. Meanwhile British tabloid Daily Mail has kept via fending article online despite a deadline set in an ultimatum issued by Brock's lawyers and good for them really for caving in right people get like to give the Daily Mail a lot of grief but not I mean for my favorite British British news source if I ever need a just a quick article or something about even if I just a regular article about saying British always look for via the daily mail if it's something like you know the economist or whatever B._B.'s no no no not the economists actually read that if the B._B._C. or something I always try and see what the daily mail us to say and that's that's an endorsement of you ever shit the day their report on. That's just you know I haven't seen like that bad of an article from like a buzzfeed high speed tier so I continue British law firm me Sean d'auray sent a letter to Daily Mail on Wednesday Miss Mishcon diarrhea. I know very but certainly not a British name Wednesday ordering it to surgically remove the article from for website quoted legal proceedings issued by our client for defamation or to be avoided he expects to receive from you as a matter of urgency and vicinity original befalling redress immediate removal from your website website of offending article and confirmation in writing that is been done wrote the london-based firm by immediate we mean by no later than five pm today. British newspaper had published a prop Razzi photo of him entering epsteins home in January twenty sixteen picture showed Barack with his Co.. Caller turned up in what in what's the paper deemed as an attempt to conceal US face brock's photo the article feature pictures of four women who mid whom it said entered the house about day although apparently at different times gee that's weird at all the article offers no evidence that Barack ever encountered these women while he was at Epstein Taus but it implies the photos race questions about his claim over the past few days that he never met Epstein in the company of women or young girls. Oh yeah sounds like his goose is going to get cooked so <hes> demanded at the Daily Mail published prominently on its website a correction in policy or client in terms greeted advanced by two thousand fifteen DIRAC set up a limited partnership in which he was a sold shareholder that company invested in reporting dirty hi. I'm Derek J. to me. An activist is calling is to actively work to advance a cause the cause for which I work is personal freedom. I believe my life is best. 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Put pursuing some productive creativity I decided to vet I'm going to write a designing. I wanted to do this for awhile star more writing and such I mean you know it's not just God just asked God didn't just gift me with a wonderful radio voice that I am ruining by smoking every day. No actually somewhat good at good writing which is what why a lot of people try to or not not tried but suggests so I go into the realm of journalism just because of my my writing and penmanship and so I'm GONNA put that to us by writing in erotic novel. I've decided to that just GONNA stop watching pornography <hes> so I'm just GonNa Watch erotic films instead because <hes> Ver ver arts right. You know it's art so I had one Japanese make a lot of these right and you know has have a plot in order for it to be an erotic film in my opinion compared to pornography where plot is secondary in dairy but some watching this one Japanese one. 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I do believe he thinks it's an allegory or he's just doing some really really hard drugs that I need to find out what the names are of but talking talking about how pretty much school you know SUV public school system. It's like prisons brainwashing prisons. I mean you know you have one person. Tell tell a whole group of children what's right what's real. What's not what's what's fake what they should love what they should hate and it's horrifying and it's not just like Yo yo you have like you just have to pay attention to that specific teacher? No it's all of them. It's all of them is a common core and they even have their own for for private at school. I remember I had to do. I feel like I forget the name of it but it was like in New England. They have kneecap testing which is like. It's standardized testing. I went to a private school one. I was when I was younger in Florida because my day with without quoting my mother puts it you know my father didn't appreciate the diversity of Public School so we decided to fork out extra money to semi to a private school and it was awful awful but you know drove my my move up to New Hampshire but anyways idigoras yeah. It was standardized too so you can't escape it in Private Schools Ivor. I mean homeschooling really is the only saint solution my view <hes> although I haven't had to deal with it but it doesn't seem hard it says if you have time like what is like a lot of families who are good at it like F._M.. All new would talk about. It's just two hours in the morning. Let's say you wake your kid up up at seven have breakfast and everything duva lesson that AIDS ride you don't have to deal with twenty nine of her screaming kids. You don't have to deal for a bullshit. You just say here's how you add. Here's how you subtract. Here's you know how silent ease work and and okay all right. They Express proficient knowledge of it how to do it how to find it. Okay you could go do something else. Constructive that you want the rest of the day you play outside do whatever but no no. It's not like that at schools. It's it's it's like if if I think a lot of our societies like a cargo colts now right with all the technology it's like we have the advanced technology to do wonderful things but we don't really know how to use the constructive method like people all did a hundred years ago or like the Greeks did so. It's like we have like what was invaded symptoms texting me on someone else. They do thing they say okay. Well you know Greeks. <hes> you know the Greeks were the smartest Greeks and Romans with some smartest people at the ancient world they had schools. We should have schools government chef schools okay here. Let's have a department of education run it and then we have like this twisted pantomime of what we call education education and it's like that it's like about a lot of places I mean you know people treat television shows and phantoms and movie franchises spirituality and religion and I mean people people like to think that they've they've evolved beyond what people were like a thousand years ago ten thousand years ago or or what what vase eight ten thousand years ago is even one hundred years ago but I mean you know people essentially have just been the same they just delude themselves of different things Geez. I've just been been been going on this entire segment so now here next we have Asia Times back to the Ho- Epstein thing we've Asia Times reporting trump to barack inside epsteins little black book and this is important just because of this black book you know if it means what a lot of people think it means this could be the key to exposing like Oh my God the entire political establishment. It's like this. This thing isn't like this whole Epstein thing can be traced with a push pin board has traced with a web. It's like a gigantic web. It has to do has to deal with a British royalty. American politicians celebrities journalists to like I think it was what was the Katie couric and George Stephanopoulos were after Epstein got out of jail there but I once he met <hes> they they want to go see and then they had dinner with them that was it and George Stephanopoulos was <hes> was called out on and he go about about that even though he's a fucking newsman news anchor so trying to see if I get here via Outtara music or not on oh. I'm just GONNA GO FOR FROM DONALD TRUMP TO BILL Clinton who barack to Tom. Tom Barrack Prince Andrew to Prince Salman. One of trump's friends the high the high flying contacts of Jeffrey Warren fresh attention as a convicted sex offender looks to face a new reckoning with his victims. We're talking about like a thousand girls. Even as Epstein heads adds to Federal Court to face conspiracy and sex trafficking charges fresh questions are emerging over sixty six year olds exact relationship with his rich and powerful contacts and the true source of his wealth and address book dubbed a quote Holy Grail seized by the F._B._i.. Hi In August two thousand nine from epsteins former Butler then published by the new side Gawker in two thousand fifteen contains the names of celebrities to our dealers princesses prince's to politicians scores of his under underage victims are listed under the category massage size for names and numbers redacted by Gawker to protect for identities it includes top model Scout jean-luc Brunell who has been accused of funneling underage aged girls to Epstein through his agency's Coron MC two as well as billionaire Victoria secret only Leslie Wexner who in nineteen ninety-five gave over his Manhattan Mansion to Epstein. I'm just going to go into into less wexner ochsner here. who see here? He's Hugh this wikipedia page. Wexner had a close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein who manage Wexner Financial Assets Wexner Epstein parted started when Epstein went to prison wexner was believed to be a primary source of epsteins wealth Vance he oh yeah here. We go to see everything so twenty. Eighteen Webster had renounces affiliation Republican Party because yeah he was a big supporter Puerto Mitt Romney due to changes in its nature Wexler made his comments shortly after former President Barack Obama gave a speech on his at the same <hes> Columbus Partnership Panel Weckstrom what address so I mean I find it interesting that you have these two big names right. He's people very you know these people close to him. Who Brock and Leslie Wexner both had some sort of financial dealings waxes closer than Epstein but I wonder if that's another way he liked he uses a black male on them and then he said try to get into business or something we I don't know? Are you tired of your taxes. 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Do you love twitter. Make sure you favorite dealer end on F._M.. Twitter account so you can receive our tweets at twitter dot dot F._M.. That's twitter dot dot F._M.. All right welcome activity to Bush before it's GonNa continue this article. Just getting good is from the Asia time talking about Jeffrey scenes black book would shy -cluded a list of some of the world's most famous people famous in powerful people and also a bunch of underage girls who are listed on her massage so I'm just GonNa continue here. Oh yeah unless wexner was one of them who had significant financial ties ways to to Epstein yeah and so which I find interesting because a lot of these people have some sort of ties to him. I think well let me so. Continue here doing say anything about that is isn't true. That can't be proven right. I don't think I could prove it but it does not include former President Clinton vo his name is listed on the flight logs of epsteins private jet dubbed the Lolita express with no major financial deals. No University degrees in only one on major client known to the public epsteins crafts at reputation as a Finance Guru appears suspect at best and part of darker scheme at worse well some contacts may have served a limited purpose in Epstein privilege ecosystem cultivated to boost or of the Prestige be allegations against Epstein suggested many came to understand they could rely on jet-setting hosts as a pimp and that he could also turn the tables against them Virginia Gift Renamed Roberts who alleges she was alleged. She was recruited into working as a sex slave as a minor picked up from the trump resort mar-a-lago says she was not only charged with having sex with and recruiting young girls for Epstein but forever prominent men as well which is which is interesting because trump claimed he kicked epstein out of her out of his out of his places previews mar-a-lago kicked him out of someplace else but I mean it's like year trump saying one year. Oh Yep scenes a great guy great guy. He really likes young women to the next you know saying Oh yeah. I kicked him out of my resort. Although some people some people found it's strange I found a strange that if say trump was involved like you know trump was like heavily involved in it then he wouldn't have made that comment about young girls unless he was trying to like do a dog whistle against Epstein or he was just so confident he defoe's funny to joke about but we'll hear more about trump in this connection Epstein. Some young girls very soon here in twenty fifteenth Sworn Affidavit Griffey said that quote in addition to constantly finding underage girls to satisfy for personal desires obscene in his alleged Madame Ghyslaine Maxwell would recruit girls for social work and so now who's d'alene Maxwell well. She's the daughter of Robert Maxwell whose real name is is boring. He was born in what's Today. Ukraine is real name is John Ludwik Hyman Been Yaman Hawk and he was a British media proprietor and member of parliament he maxwell rose from poverty to build an extensive publishing empire after his death huge discrepancies companies and finances were revealed including his fraudulent misappropriation mission of the Mirror Group Pension Fund and so here he's massad allegations of a British Foreign Office suspected maxwell was a secret agent of foreign governments possibly a double agent or triple agent and a quote fairly bad add character and almost certainly financed by Russia <hes> well. Is that true well. Let's see he had known links to British Secret Intelligence Service and my six to the K._G._B.. And two Israeli Intelligence Service Massad six serving and former heads heads of Israel intelligence services attended Max funeral and Israel while Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogized him and stated he has done more for Israel than can give that can today. He said so so he also he was he was found dead floating in the ocean presume into fallen overboard so have that if you will anyway so that's his <hes> his daughter that's who lady Jelena gives lane is F- seen so quote Epstein specifically told me that the reason for him doing this was so they would quote oh him they would be in his pocket and he would quote have something something on them. I understood him to mean that when someone was in his pocket they owed him favors. She said Gua free says she was forced to have sex Pepsi's lawyer a High Profile Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz who is a regular fixture on Fox and just he's he's like the biggest liberal left on Fox van Geraldo Rivera and one Williams on so she had sex with forceps sex of Alan Dershowitz wits on at least six occasion starting from when she was sixteen years old she claims Dershowitz from that time was angrily rejected. The ACCU has angrily rejected the accusations quote. She's still a prostitute. He won't floor he told Florida's local ten news news adding that whatever transpired between with free and Epstein was a separate issue which had nothing to do with him so I mean it's not really not really denying it. He's like overseeing so basically you forcibly. They force you force her to have sexually six times in any gosh. She's a prostitute and you know there's this guy on twitter a an e celeb- light he celeb- called Mike Cernan rich and and he's claiming that he he was the reason why this all broke out because of whatever as lawsuits at he's working with Alan Dershowitz he works with Alan Dershowitz and so he's talking about all the ever F- scene southbound novice. Not You know his his buddies connection to it which which you know I mean one of these days. I'm just GonNa do a whole then. Maybe not a whole but I'm just going to these twitter east celebs. Just just make me absolutely nauseous anyways. We're GONNA continue. Thus far really prominent personality to fall from grace. Amid renewed scandal has been former U._S.. Labor Secretary Alexey caustic compelled to resign from his post last week amid of a for over a plea deal he broker for obscene is U._S.. Attorney for several district of Florida that decade will deal so obscene convicted at the state level for soliciting prostitution even though his victim was Paloga age of consent and also saw him avert hard jail time in February U._S.. Federal judge ruled the deal invalid as it was granted without knowledge of victims and what was it he said I believe it was a cost of who said that he reason why he handled it. The way he did was because someone told him it was an intelligence operation. Jeffrey Epstein was a wasn't intelligence asset so it's all adding up. I mean people these people go to conspiracy. Theories is dissolved bunch of coincidences. Well you know how many fucking coincidences can add up before it finally gets for your fucking skull that not everything but government tells. You was true not everything that C._N._N.. Or whatever RAG newspaper you pick up is true. I mean these people were like Oh little governments evil. Oh we need you know we can do. We should just live is <hes> live. I'm not going to get these people all those anti-government enemy of the state and yet they turn on M._S._N._B._C. and they believe everything about the Russian probe. They believe everything Robert Muller's says it's just motiva- believe everything snowpack tells them just most ridiculous thing ever I mean and enders I mean obviously vendors you have a flatter people who just like from a monkey wrench into the whole thing and Gio make everyone else look like idiots now. I'm going to have a bunch of flatter people calling in complaining complaining well. I mean if you believe Europe is flat. I mean that's her fan but if it's like you know in your number one goal in life is to literally convince everyone to believe the same mental illness you do van. That's when a problem right now like some guy who's who actually you know he he was really interval. Isaac Capi Hollywood pedophile thing and he was into flatter and Oh my God this guy's a Kook and all this pedophile stuff came out and I have to give him a second thought so he's all right. This is going to be a music any second now. I can't hear it for some reason so this question before we don't go away second upcoming a bunch of more pretty much more news more vis going to be great dunk away. We'll be right back all right. I'm just GonNa say what we're going to be talking about. Some continue talking about that. We're going to be talking about Farraj Nitra Farraj. We're going to be talking about to be Hong Kong and then finally we're going to get into the blackmail ring involving Roger Stone trump and Gary Cohn okay all right. This is embarrassing but anyways it's ten fifty six o'clock. It's going to be rate's GONNA be excited. I'm looking forward to it. It's really hot. 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Does History Repeat Itself? | 4

American History Tellers

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Does History Repeat Itself? | 4

"Magin? It's February thirteenth eighteen sixty six. It's a frigid day in liberty, Missouri. You're standing behind a counter the clay county savings association where you work as a Bank clerk normally there's a full staff of employees on the floor. But today, it's just you and one other person your father the head cashier. Everyone else got to stay home on account of the snow, but not you you get to spend the day pouring over Bank records with your dad. You're grateful to be inside where it's warm, but the truth is you're bored out of your mind you'd kill for customer. Something anything to break the monotony impasse the time then at around -tuni- afternoon. Two men dressed in blue union overcoats walk through the door. Welcome to clay county savings. What can I do for one of the men nods politely warms, his hands by the stove? The other man had. Is your way he slaps a ten dollar Bill on the countertop? I'd like change, please. Singles VR that'd be just fine. Yes, sir. You've been down to reach for the cash drawer. But when you stand back up, there's a pistol pointed right between your eyes as you back away, the man jumps over the counter and hit you with the butt of his gun. You other man, grabs your father and points pistol at the back of his head make sound you and this all manner dead. You understand me? Yes, sir. The man slams a large grain sack on top of the counter you presses the barrel of his gun into the flash in the center of your forehead open. The vault. Empty the vault and fill the sack to the brim. When you hand the man the bag he shoves you your father inside the slams the heavy door shut as you reach for your father. Something catches your eye. A sliver of light creeping through the vault. They didn't lock it you push open the door and run to a window outside. You see the two men in blue coats with a dozen more armed bandits on horseback. And you see something else to a pair of unaware young men walking straight into the gangs path you open the window and call out robbery hearing your voice, the two young men quickly turn and run in the opposite direction. But they're not quick enough. When the smoke clears the bandits are going you and your father alive, and well, one of the young men in the street, isn't so lucky run to his side. But you can see there's no hope for him. He lays in a pool of his own blood choking for air in the frigid snow as a life drains from his is this was not the excitement you were hoping for. American history tellers is sponsored by ally. You wouldn't settle for a two star dentist or even a two star restaurant for that matter. So why settle for a two star Bank? We're all too familiar with low rates and some par service when you're treated like just another number and for what you've worked hard for your money. So be picky about where you put it. There is a better option out there. That's ally. Ally knows you deserve better. And their mission is to be just at with ally Bank. You'll get interest rates up to twenty times the national average and live customer care. You can chat with a real person twenty four seven even on weekends and holidays. They won't surprise you with hidden fees or confuse you with fancy jargon allies team, actually cares about doing right by you and your money. So get yourself a better Bank. Go to ally dot com to find out more. That's a L L Y dot com ally. Do it right ally Bank member FDIC? From wondering, I'm Lindsey Graham. And this is American history tellers our history your story. On February thirteenth eighteen sixty six. Jesse James held up his first Bank in clay county, Missouri. The take was incredible cash gold, silver and bonds worth nearly sixty thousand dollars roughly a million by today's standards, even more incredible. Is the fact that Jesse James wasn't even there. It's believed Jesse plan the heist, but couldn't go along for the ride because he was still recovering from a nearly fatal gunshot wound. He received near the end of the civil war to other members of jesse's gang did the heavy lifting co younger and jesse's older brother Frank the two outlaws, Don union coats wrote into town in the middle of snowstorm and held up to Bank employees again point William Byrd and his father green up. They were the victims of what is believed to be the first daylight Bank robbery and US history during peacetime the whole that was also the first known criminal act of what would come to be known as the. James younger, gang jesse's ingenious plan to rob the Bank in broad daylight was not supposed to involve murder, though, George jolly y more the young college student who fell dead at the hands of jesse's gang was in the wrong place at the wrong time a few days after the robbery or so the story goes Jesse sent y Moore's parents a letter apologizing for his death. Jesse may have expressed remorse over why more but his days of murder and mayhem were just beginning. Jesse James rose to infamy in a time when the country was still reeling from the civil war during wartime. He was a Bushwacker a rebel guerrilla soldier. But after the war as the world changed around him Jesse found himself a man without a country. So Jesse turned outlaw over the years. He and the James younger gang robbed. Dozens of banks trains and stage coaches Jesse alluded thirties for nearly fifteen years and became one of the most successful Bank robbers in American history. For Jesse like most outlaws of his day, his path to infamy was paved in blood, and the costs to society was tremendous it all began one hundred fifty three years ago today, February thirteenth eighteen sixty six and otherwise normal Tuesday in February became history. Every day starts out ordinary. We have no way of knowing what the day will hold or whether our regular lives might be captured by urgent and important events. History is a horizon viewed in hindsight, but when it was happening in the moment on the ground. No, one can say they truly predicted today on this special segment of American history. Tellers we're considering the famous, quote, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it David Greenberg, a professor of history and media studies at Rutgers University has thought carefully about this idea that history repeats itself. He's an academic. But also writes for politico and has contributed to the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal he joined me from his offices in New York to talk about how we connect the past to the events of today. We also talked about his most recent book Republic of spin an inside history of the American. The presidency in it. He examined the history of political messaging by the White House. I hope you enjoy our compensation. Professor greenberg. Thanks for coming on the show. My pleasure now, you live a bit of a double life. You're a professor of history Rutgers University. But you're also a professor of journalism and media studies also at Rutgers you write for the public at large and politico and slate, but you're a fully credential PHD researching and teaching in the cloisters Vachon -demia. I don't believe that's too common. So why exert yourself trying to have two careers. Well, I think it is actually probably becoming a little more common than it. Once was and there are various professional historians who to varying degrees. You know will write for the public write book reviews op EDS beyond TV. And so on for me. It's really a matter of having two goals with my writing that I've always believed are reconcilable, even though it may be some work to reconcile them. One is to reach other scholars and to make contributions to the study of history that will be lasting and that will be influential. So that other historians in years ahead will you know, I hope continue to benefit in some way from my books up, but the others also to reach the general public and to help impart an understanding of history to, you know, all kinds of readers, and so you really have to hone at least two different sets of skills. Yeah. I think there's probably a very big difference. Between what academic historians are are looking at it on daily basis and those in the. Public who are interested in history are consuming as someone who straddles both worlds. Is there a large gap? If I picked up the headlines of academic history right now, would I be surprised to see what the academy is working on? Yes, it no. It seems to me. And this is just an impression that in the last generation really since I started graduate school, and then sort of came into my own as a historian. There's actually been more of an interest among academic historians in reaching the public partly that is because the internet has helped create platforms that have made a possible for people to break through and put their ideas out there. Whether it's blogs were dedicated history websites, and partly I think in in certain political times, there's a desire to connect the two to have history inform our understanding, so if you look at a recent issue. The most recent issue of the journal of American history win the leading journals in the field of US history. One of the main articles is about fascism in the thirties as an international phenomenon and the way American fascists were sort of in dialogue with European fascists. And obviously that's a set of questions concerns that has resonances for our own day. So there are ways in which I think people might be surprised that academic history does touch on popular concerns public political concerns. But also needless to say, there's plenty of fields where people are toiling away doing wonderful scholarship that really does not have that much to say to the current moment. And that's fine too. Obviously we have a need for that as well. Well, one of the often cited benefits of studying history is exactly that you can learn much about the present. By studying the past. If you feel you might be living in a historic moment. You might search for a similar moment from the past a do you think this is the right use of histories lessons? Or should we be skeptical about plying history like that? It's very tricky on the one hand, I wouldn't you know, I do what I do partly because I believe there is a connection between the past. And the present the past history tells us how we got here how we arrived at our current moment histories of form of explanation of the present. But there's also a tendency in both among journalists, but also even among some academics to resort to a fairly crude mechanistic application of lessons. You know? This is what happened in the thirties. So therefore, this is what we should do today. And usually that kind of thinking lead you astray in. And you know, there's the line from Santa Yana, the Harvard philosopher that those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it, and then others will say, yeah. And those who remember the past are also doomed to repeat it as well. I mean history doesn't provide you any great inoculation from making mistakes. It doesn't apply. Neat doesn't provide neat lessons that you can apply. I think what it does do is help expand your horizons of fought and there are possibilities. There are intellectual traditions political activities that one can find in the past that maybe aren't so present today, and so they can kind of stimulate your imagination about what could be today or help you to ask, you know, why things aren't the case as well. As why things are the case. So the past has to be used in a very. Sort of subtle fluid oblique way in speaking to the present it rarely hands down neatly packaged ready made, you know, simple points of instruction. So you are in the history doesn't repeat itself. But it rhymes Cam. I think there's yeah. There's there's something to be said for that. You know? I mean, I think right now I brought up the question of the nineteen thirties, and fascism, and I do think over the last fifty years since Vietnam the older history of American isolationism as a very destructive thing has largely been forgotten. And when we think of America's withdrawal from the world, we are more likely to think, well, the Vietnam war the Iraq war, we think of moments of American overreach. So having the history of the thirties when ISIS. Elation is clearly helped bring on a global catastrophe is a useful reminder that foreign policy isn't simply a matter of plane, you know, black and white morality where America's involvement in the world, just leads to bad things. There have been times where America's withdrawal from the world lead to even worse things. And so having that complexity of fought is more useful for analyzing what America's role in the world should be today than simply saying, well, we have to avoid another Vietnam or another Iraq. Well, I think if the goal is complexity of thought nuance and understanding that's going to be a tall order for any mass public general consumption. What would be your advice to both producers of popular history and consumers to get to that complexity of thought? Well, I think one. One way I try to achieve in my own writing is through an integration of narrative Amal SIS and often when we talk about the gap between popular and academic history. We're talking about a difference between analytical and narrative history, and that's a little crude it doesn't always boil down to the strict alignment of those two qualities, but as a general rule, the really popular historians, you know, people like Jon Meacham or doors, Chris Goodwin specialize in narrative, and the level of analysis that they have to offer will typically be, you know, less sophisticated or complex than what you'll get from an academic historian on the other hand a lot of academic stories. Don't particularly go for narrative, or if they do the narrative is. A little bit of a skeleton on which they kind of hang the analysis, but it's not really a narrative driven work. Now, I think if you can successfully integrate the narrative and the analysis it's a way of almost smuggling in to a well written readable story more complex sophisticated level of argumentation, and that's a tall order. But that's in a way. What what I try to do in my writing? And I think you can point to a lot of successful historians both inside and outside the kademi who do that to some degree or another. Well, why we're speaking about narrative, let's switch gears a little bit and talk about political narrative. Your most recent book is Republic of spin an inside history of the American presidency, and you investigate how politicians have cultivated. Image their narrative to appeal to the public is spin something that's developed recently in our political history since on row since the first televised debates or the rise of cable news or have we been dealing this with this for some time in one or the arguments, I make in Republic of spin, and it is an argument. Although I try not to present it in kind of relentless polemical form is that spin is all politics, the Greeks called it rhetoric. And so I didn't go by the name of spin, of course, until fairly recently the nineteen eighties. But that the craft of pudding your best slant on the facts of presenting the information in such a way as to reflect well on you, the politician on your agenda on your ideas. Well, that's that's part of what politics is about. And I really trace the. The rise of the White House spin machine, which is really what the book is about to the start of the twentieth century, where theater Roosevelt in particular. Understood that there was a new age of mass media upon us that we had this mass public that was engaged with politics. And that he could lead by reaching out by taking his message to this broader public, and that was very different conception of what presidents did from the nineteenth century. When really it was congress that drove the agenda, and the president would work with congress, but the president's role toward the public was less about being in gender setter less about achieving program of reform, and so the change in the presidency and the change in media bring about the development in the White House spin machine, and that's really what the book is about. Well, let's get specific about the change in. And the mass media wasn't. In the media at the time of teddy Roosevelt that changed several things. First of all, you have the rise of these huge metropolitan daily newspapers, and many many more people are reading the newspaper between immigration and urbanism nation. You have cities full of people who are turning to these papers for their daily news. You also within journalism have the rise of news itself as opposed to opinion or commentary, and although there are still influential editors whose opinions on the to'real pages matter people are sort of learning to read the news columns, the reported news and make up their own minds. This is kind of the new ethos of the progressive era of their early twentieth century that citizens should be serving dependent and make up their own mind about public affairs and not just serve take their cues from what? Had been a very partisan press, the third element of that is the rise of reporting itself, particularly from Washington, you know, in the nineteenth century, the Washington. Press corps was a pretty small group, and they typically covered congress if you were Washington reporter and you want to get the news. You didn't go the White House. There was no White House press room or press secretary, no press releases. This really starts a little bit with William McKinley and some other some other predecessors to TR, but it's really theater Roosevelt who starts regularly gathering, the Washington reporters in the White House to tell them what he thinks they should right. It's Roosevelt who starts hiring dedicated press aides, you know, communication specialists. We might call them today to handle a project that reporters seem to have particular interest in the building of the Panama Canal. How? You know, it's Roosevelt who first contrives publicity stunts, he'll do things like flying into a submarine and go to the bottom of Long Island Sound himself because he knows that will make headlines and draw attention to the need for submarines in the navy. So there's lots of ways in which Roosevelt sensibility has media savviness allows him to help redefined the presidency. American history tellers has sponsored by ZipRecruiter managing businesses. 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He what happens over the course of the twentieth century is that as politicians and their aides no PR people advertising people as they developed new techniques for projecting the presidential image for shaping the presidential message. We got speechwriters presents began to use radio. And then television coaches of all this professional expertise with brought to bear on the project of spin or presidential messaging, you audiences weren't simply passive dupes that is kind of commonly held notion. And in the early years of communications scholarship that sort of was the premise on which people operated, but that's long since been debunked. I mean, we know that listeners television watchers audiences are engaged, and we can think about what we're hearing. We can reject it or we can challenge it or we can applaud it even if we know it's contrived. And so what happens is serving the course of the century audiences become quite savvy about the different mechanisms and the press plays a role in this starting in the sixties, the press becomes much reporters become much more explicit about explaining the strategy behind the presidential speech, you know, even in the lead paragraph. So it's not just a dutiful recitation of the facts of what happened, but there's much more context analysis next flation that goes into. To the way news is presented. This is on in television news as well. You know, their studies one famous study from the showed that the length of sound bites the length degree to which a subject would be quoted diminishes radically from nineteen sixty eighth nineteen Eighty-eight. What does that mean? It means the reporters own voice is saying Moore, and they're just turning it over to the sources less so viewers readers become very aware of the context, the strategy the intention -ality behind presidential communication, and so we don't take it at face value. And of course, that poses a challenge because also lead to cynicism, which is certainly a malady of our times. Sometimes I think maybe it would be good. If we had a little bit more belief, not necessarily naive belief, but serve willingness to credit. Politicians with perating from conviction rather than imputing cynicism to everything that's done. Well, that is something I was thinking about okay? So we're not the American public is not a bunch of rubes. But there is a cynicism. A public suspicion that spin is not just putting your best foot forward. But somehow deeply nefarious. We have political narratives that there are an established professional machinery to deceive us in your study. How much of that is true? I think what happens is when the political party or candidate prevails that we don't like we're very reluctant to attribute that success to winning the war of ideas, or winning a political argument. So we tend to impute it to deception to these Irv nefarious methods, and if they are in agreement with our own side, those those communication skills. We don't see them. Nefarious. We see them as a great advantage in tool of governing. So I think it's a mistake to see spin or communication as primarily tool of deception, which is not again, it's not to say there isn't lying in politics. There is but generally spin, and the reason we have a word for it. That's different from lying. Spin is the effort to kind of put your best slant on the facts while stopping short of demonstrably untruthful claims, right? That there's there's kind of this rhetorical battle of how far you can sort of stretch the truth or pitch the truth. So that you can you can feel like you've made a defensible claim while still trying to be as persuasive as possible. I think as far as the word spin goes, you know, the linguist or psychologist Steven pinker has this term the youth. Treadmill? And what that means is when there's a word that has some unsavory connotations, we reach to create a euphemism. But it's still referring to a phenomenon with those unsavory connotations. So eventually, even the euphemism starts to smell a little rotten. And we look for new euphemisms. So if you go back early in the twentieth century, the term propaganda used to be a neutral term, it didn't have those negative connotations at does now, but with the first World War, and especially the second World War and communist and Nazi propaganda. It really came to mean something dark misleading, and we began to look for other words, you know, publicity and public relations was another one. But today even public relations has a whiff of disreputable about it. You know, someone's trying to kinda. Put a gloss on things even rhetoric that ancient Greek term that I mentioned it can be used in a way, that's derisive. That's just a rhetorical posture rhetoric as distinct from reality, but the truth is, no matter. What term you come up with? There is a need to describe political communication political communication is always going to be different from an oath taken in court room or an argument presented in seminar. There are places where we expect the truth the whole truth and nothing, but the truth, but we don't really expect that coming out of the mouths of senators and governors and presidents we understand that politics is in Rena of competing narratives, competing explanations. And that's why like the term spin. I think it has a slightly kind of playful tone that ignored. Edges that politics is Irina of contested truth and not absolute truth in your view is spin at the levels. We haven't now necessary or destructive. Well, I think it's both spin is the language of politics in an age of mass communications. We really can't imagine a political world without spin. Look, there are places if you're reading the report on the Dow Jones where did finish today. If you're looking at the box score of a baseball game. If you're looking at the weather report, you should be able to expect a fair degree of neutral objective information that's not inflected by political positioning. But for most of what we talk about in politics. We have spin. It's only necessary. It's it's inherent in what politicians do. Now. It can be. Destructive. And particularly in recent times there is a frequent crossing of the line. From permissible spin of sort that all politicians partake of into a kind of outright denial of reality with this brings up a question of revisionist history to is their spin in our view or use of history is our conception of what happened now influence were infected by our desire to spin it. Sure it is. You know, I think we it's worth distinguishing between kind of good, faith and bad faith efforts to understand history. Everybody, of course, has a politics and political leaning, but when we analyze the past and we try to bracket that enough. So that when we look at the facts of what happened the interpretation isn't simply going to reinforce, our ideas. Illogical prior convictions. And that's that's true when making all kinds of political arguments, but it's especially important and understanding the past now, it's still hard to achieve and I think there are many historians who do read the past opportunistically who read it sort of in the service of you know, political or social set of values, and that can be problematic and politicians do this even more, you know, with politicians are invoking Vietnam or World War Two or any number of moments in the past. Usually we should remind ourselves there. Speaking, not first and foremost is students of history who are interested in gauging us in a discussion about the past. But they're interested in making a political point. And so we should then turn to historians to say well is this an accurate? View of the past is this of you of the past that is being distorted for present day political purpose and lot of the columns that I've written over the years I used to write a regular column for slate. Now, I've taken it to politico. They're sort of designed to be a little bit of a check on the political abusive history and to offer a little bit more context than grounding and back story. So that people can have a basis for assessing what the president or even a political columnists might be retailing as an account of. American history tellers is sponsored by sleep number my wife, and I bought a new car recently. Well, a new to us car buying a new car. That's just extravagant. 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Number is the official sleep and wellness partner of the NFL you'll only find sleepnumber at one of their five hundred seventy five sleepnumber stores nationwide. Visit sleepnumber dot com slash tellers to find the one nearest you. Is there an example of a moment in history that has been egregiously spun a popular myth that we just need to disabuse ourselves of. Oh, well, there are so many. I mean, they sort of come up every day. That it's hard hard to pick one, you know, few years ago or in a couple of years ago, John Kelly when he was the White House chief of staff made a remark about the civil war, and this being you know, regrettable that we had to go to war, and we couldn't compromise on our differences, and this provoked kind of huge backlash particularly from what I guess is being called liberal Twitter or liberal commentators who countered with a very different account of the coming of the civil war, and what both sides failed to recognize is that this is actually a deep historical debate. Or as we say historian graphical debate among professional historians that for a long time Kelly's view was actually the mainstream view that Kelly's view was. What they call the blundering generation was just on both sides kind of locked into ideological position and unable to find their way through the compromise. It's really only been in recent decades that this other view has come to predominate this as well. No, actually, you know, the north did compromise quite a bit and it didn't arrest the spread of slavery. And there was actually a legitimate concern that if allowed to spread westward slavery would not extinguish itself on its own. And that of course, it was the south that chose to succeed chose to go to war. So you know, what both sides myth is that this is actually a debate among historians. And sometimes I think people on all sides tend to look at the at history as a discrete set of facts that is like an encyclopedia entry about which there is no room for dispute. In truth history. Is there was a Dutch historian Peter gale who has this apper sewer? Aphorism history is an argument without end. And you know, I think there's a lot of truth to that that yes, you can make a more or less persuasive argument. I certainly am more partial to the necessary conflict account of the civil war rather than the blundering generation account, but we should completely dismiss the blundering generation account. We have acknowledged a lot of historians for many years found merit in that interpretation. And we can't just simply say will Kelly's wrong or Kelly's ignorant or Kelly's racists. We have to reckon with the fact that this was a powerful interpretation that held sway for a very long time as we're drawing to a close here. Is there a particular moment or era of American history that you would like Americans to be more aware of to have the the a more critical knowledge up from what I can see probably every period in our? Past is is too little understood history majors are are declining right now. It's a time where there's a lot of pop social science thinking that's big, and I actually see in a lot of students an even among some younger faculty. A displacement of empirical research in favor of theory and thinking that certain theories can be manipulated to tell us what we need to know. And I think the more kind of impurity fact research into the past that we encourage the more we are going to open up creative thinking creative interpretations that doesn't start with theory. That's important that be theoretically sophisticated and not just to take your facts at face value. But that what we really need to encourage is the ability to do research to do. Reporting to find out facts question facts, and that those basic skills of finding and building knowledge are really what needs strengthening right now in our society. Well, thank you for your research, and finding of facts and also thank you for speaking with us to sure it was pleasure talking. That was my conversation with Rutgers history. Professor, David Greene, burn. You can find him on Twitter at Republic of spin. 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The Mysteries of Route 66

True Mysteries of the Pacific Northwest

04:48 min | 1 year ago

The Mysteries of Route 66

"Welcome to kiss myths and mysteries. I'm your host kid crumb today route sixty six while route sixty six highway sixty sixty six so the main street of america or whatever you wanna call it was created november eleventh one thousand nine hundred ninety six it covered two thousand four hundred and forty eight miles and ran from chicago illinois to santa monica california iran through eighth stage in three time zones although removed from the state highway way system in one thousand nine hundred eighty five in steinbeck's classic novel grapes of wrath. That was the route taken by those flaine poverty in the dust bowl. Although although i personally have feelings of nostalgia about sixty six there are a number of missed the mysteries connected to the old highway that carry on the theme of this podcast <unk> along the route. You can see the hideout for jesse james or the james gang bonnie and clyde's hang out at baxter springs kansas driving. I belong to route. You'll unwittingly past the site of the staffel beck murder bordello. I remember my father taking us along the route where we would stop but snake pits usually places like gas stations and sometimes homes at seoul trinkets when we pass through the desert. The trinkets were more like tomahawks six and beat it bags. I eventually ended up working at the grand canyon caverns along the route twenty two stories underground totally dry but the old highway has has a creepy side route six six six. No surprise is the six branch of route sixty six and it's long stretch of road has been responsible for are countless ghost stories and encounters. The scariest might come from linda donning who wrote about an incident with her husband apparently the man her husband happened was driving down route six six six late one night and the distance saw bernie truck flying down the road toward him with no signs of stopping he quickly pulled off the road and walked into the desert about twenty feet from his car in order to let the flaming truck pass after it raised by he got back in his car continued on like a very smart person. If while driving the route you must stop avoid the hotel monta vista according to haunted route sixty a six ghosts of america's legendary highways the reports from that hotel indicate restless spirits that liked to the halls especially avoid the second floor which is supposedly haunted by so many spirits hotel management cat put pets on the floor because of freakout the basement where reports of the baby crying over and over again have also been reported. If you take the trip along route sixty six in arizona you'll will eventually come to across old business ventures that wants entice tourists to visit and break up the monotony of the long journey. There are always somewhat mysterious experiences though just why in the end in trading post go under what were those tumble down down buildings part of what else were there besides the signs declare route sixty six mountain lions justice to holbrook arizona or distance silence of some two miles large plastic dinosaurs appear on either side of the road in a thin desert scrub red dirt most alone solitary tori dinosaurs with teeth. There are clearly not in the mood for company among these. There's one group shot consisting of toronto source rex ex- pinning down a triceratops while warding off a smaller but aggressive predator that triceratops appears the least bothered of the three then you you see aborted a building to the south with dinosaur front yard all assigns all boarded up as are the billboards that once invited travelers travelers to whatever dinosaur extravaganza there was here a few more dinosaurs appear than nothing and it all slips behind you no explanation as to what it happened as you drive down route sixty six today much of route sixty six has been paved over by the new interstate but there are still stretches with sights will typically imagination the mysteries of route sixty six were produced here at night owl sound studio and brought to you by book savvy studio loss lodge press the road bali medical physical library and i'll creak press and writers retreat listen to tales of ghost towns of the old west tuesday thursday and kiss myths and mysteries every monday wednesday and friday. I'm kit chrome. Thanks for listening.

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Pikachu Re-Volts

Gotta Watch'em All - A Pok�mon Podcast

44:39 min | 6 months ago

Pikachu Re-Volts

"Goin' on Book Monitoring Welcomes Episode Eighty. Four of gotTa Watch them. All pocket bringing together trainers from every corner of Pokemon fandom before watching along with an episode of Pokemon a series. Starting all the way back at episode one. But today we're GONNA be watching episode. Eighty four Pika. Chew revolts. GotTa Watch them. All as part of the POKOMO professor network and today is Friday February seventh. Two Thousand Twenty on one of your host can pescatore joined by my co host. Adam Tuttle. Adam hello how are you? I'm doing fantastic second podcasts. The night I know men get double duty. We just recorded lured up so We're in we're in the zone right now. I'm absolutely in zone. Podcastone straight. You're not in the Magnuson were in the magnet zone. That's exactly it. That's exactly on today's show. Pokemon sword and shield expansion block releases g today. Hope your wallet attacks. Another another big set. Potentally trainer box today so I do a do. Have my hands on some cards? It's GONNA be exciting to dig into them at the end of the show. Sword and shield on switch gets a new featured. Max Raid Pok Mon. We're GONNA do a pokemon center update lots of cool new product. There you can vote for your favorite Pok Mon for Pokemon Day coming up at the end of the month and then we're going to follow up with our watch along with episode eighty. Four Pichu revolts. I'd Adam this is your. This is your domain. T G Sword and shield expansion block came out today February seventh. So by the time you hear. This shouldn't have any problem finding that retailers. Please support your local card shops but another big set man. Two hundred over two hundred cards This is the first time we're getting all the Gallardo come on in here There's more than twenty five trainer cards in the set. There's a new special energy the Aurora energy. Which is I don't have the card front of me but When you play the card you have to discard a card from your hand and in energy can serve as any type of energy correct. Yeah it's like a rainbow energy but rainbow right taking damage you just discarded card this card which works really well. Basically the new supporter. Marnie is thin. Flip and tastic. Each player Shuffles. Their hands They shuffle their hands and then they put their hands at the bottom of the decks. Interesting I can see this card causing a lot of issues just because you have to shuffle your hand and Shuffle. You're handed to your deck is like a common theme so just right there. It's often though that that you're shuffling your deck. Anyway you know what I mean. So it's like this may only be weird you know. It's not like you can top deck anything and it's not like you can stack your deck like. I don't know but I see what you're saying because it's just a different way of getting. Your car is recycled you know as far as the positioning so I I totally see that what else we got here. More than Fifteen v cards. We have four V necks cards. We've talked about those before The Snow Relax labs the Stone Journal. They actually showed the more Pico Via Card on Komo DOT COM as well Adam you did you go to a previous. I went to two of them all right so you had a pretty lame experience at one of them. Right yes and to hear about that. Listen to the next episode is special conditions. 'cause I WANNA get into details but long story short. I didn't get extra pacts at the end and it was just kind of experience but the second one though is fantastic but the packs. The packs are part of the deal right like if you go to pokemon Dot Com and look the play pokemon events and pull up pre releases. They say you know it's not like this is an optional thing right like you paid into the to do the pre release right. Yes yes yeah. So that's that's messed up man. You ended up what I got one. Pack to share between me and my son to send entries. That's dude you got. You got to write a letterman already. The response I got was we'll pass it along. Make sure no no. Yes so no compensation and they said. Unfortunately we don't have pacs and I'm like why. Put Your T. P. C. I. Something you can do. I know you can do something. That's dude that's really lame. Shame that place. The that's like what was their excuse. They just did. They use their packs or sell their packs. He said he's already at a loss and so I can't do anything more. That's dude you're paying in for the event. How is he had a loss for it? And those and those boxes. Those Prius boxes are twenty dollars outside of the event. So I just so. I spent an additional six dollars for one. Pack twelve dollars for wipe. I bought a twelve pack. Y'All that's Carter. Twelve dollar pack. Did you pull anything? No No. That's the whole point. That's the Stinger like I literally opened up all four my packs and got green codes in all of them cards. I didn't even get a hollow. Lame that's that's a shame but guys let us know if you're going to be picking up any sort and shield Did you go to a pre release? How did it go for you? Hopefully you've got the Paxi deserve that are included in the entry. Perky play pokemon standards. That's so messed but yeah there's so many strategies that come out of this the set you know there's the stone joyner Lapresse with froth moth pokemon dot com. They talk about you. Know sneaky switch with while buffet the anger. They talked about metal. Basically if you got a that's the best card you could possibly pull because you're going to need those with ADP. That's kind of like the proven strongest decorate. Now are she's the Aga Palca. Yep Obviously the longer that it's Informat in people get playing with it. It'll change up but for the most part. It's a brutal deck. I've been watching a million games on it and it's broken in. You know. A bunch of new rules are coming to effect the release of the set. I'll put Lincoln and description so he could see. We talked about last week as well But you know differences in turn. One differences to resistance differences with Some of the Car Dorado. They updated the bunch of language on a bunch of different cards. Put Lincoln description makes you stay up with that because as you play going forward. The rules are going to change now if you play Tc G. O. And you play this online. It will help you understand how these new rules go with playing supporters around one. You can't do that anymore. So it's like it'll it'll help. Walk you through that so If you WANNA get adjusted to the new rule sets you know just play some. Tc G. O. Going forward now with the new rules coming with sword and shield. And it'll Kinda hold your hand through that so he can get used to it. Definitely Sword and shield new Max raid. Pok MON COMING FROM PROCAM DOT COM. I love how they can update the game like soft patching where does not need a full update and they can just do this on the server side but starting yesterday the sixth through March eighth so a little bit over a month g Max talks trysofi is available in Max Raids. And they're splitting it up fun fact. I turn on my game last night. The first Raid Battle. I I did. I saw what does talk trysofi. Does that involve and I just started battling it and I caught it and I was like. Oh It's just a tax chastity with G-MEX A G MEX so and no. It's just like what they put the amped form in sword and the low key forum in Shield Can learn the G. Max move stunned shock. Son Shock is actually a really cool move. Not only is he gonNA do. Electric damage from the move itself but can also poison or paralyze your opponent so Pretty Sweet I think toxicity is one of the coolest looking pokemon Newer Pokemon so go for it. They know this is here the end like it's very punk rock ish. It's totally punk. Especially the anthem really really cool. But I I like how they can they can update this and I know a lot of people had a ton of fun you know with the Milky and getting all the news and all that stuff. So they're doing a good job. I think they're taking the model from Polka Mongo of you know having featured stuff just constantly changing every month keeping people engaged. It's pretty awesome. We have a awesome awesome community channel in our Patriot. Discord OF PEOPLE. That are playing together. And it's it's pretty cool. They've been using the voice channel to communicate as they raid now. So it's it's really really neat so if you guys WanNa get involved that need. Some people play with. Check out our our patriots and You can instantly jump in with crew and And have some people ray with okay? We talked about the Valentine's Day stuff at Pokemon Center. But they've released more stuff even though we haven't even reached Valentine's Day. Ed but a lot of cool stuff. Anders one product in particular here that. I'm really excited about. But all the and shield. Tc G. stuff that we had talked about like the release. All that stuff is available. Lee trainer boxes others three three. Themed X-ray Laboon Cinderella's There's three triple booster pack blisters with a coin Oh they also did a split elite trainer boxing same product in the inside just different art and then they did a booster box. Oh yeah they showed instable hundred forty three dollars and sixty four cents which equals three ninety nine for each pack. Go to your local game shop. I'm pretty sure you can get one for at least one hundred twenty somewhere around there yet. Don't fall victim to high prices. Also don't if you can avoid it don't fall victim to buying it from Jeff Bezos Amazon. To save yourself ten bucks. Give that ten bucks to your local card shops so the do combined self lunch. I always say that shopsmall if he can. It's the way to go but Adam they released a five hundred dollar Marie P- plush repeat that. This is going to be a hundred dollars. It's it's twenty four inches twenty four inches. It's not like a beanbag that you know this. Massive giant thing. It's a twenty four inch plush. Yeah I get it. It's big but five hundred dollars. Who's buying this? Who is buying this? Well hold on. Let Me Tell You. Because there's there's three reviews. This one's from Jeffrey t even bigger than I expected in it and immensely Hubble it better be for five hundred. This one's this one's from Anthony K. It's good very good. This is from Nicole L. A. Big and soft sheep. Everything I could ever ask for Bro. I need to hang out with Nicole. L. where she could drop five hundred on a Murray plush. It's so cute. It looks amazing. But I I don't understand how a twenty four inch plush can be five hundred bucks unless this thing is like made with like the silk from the rarest spider on earth. I don't get him in. I don't get it but so so this is GonNa be at the Murray but minogue. It'll get be like the Senate the marie-eve Bizarre lourdesae. Podcast get together. I go fest that we do every year last year. We rented out a whole bar and it was rowdy and absolutely insane. This five hundred dollar Marie plush. We get destroyed if it went up at the Murray up but Man. Well I just want to say that that they do a good job they have so many pictures they have like an aerial view underneath it. It's but it's it's side the front and compared it to a you know a little sitting like To the they just did for five hundred bucks. They better because cheese. That's just wild the images I could see the stitching quality and it's quality over quantity I just. I can't even imagine dropping. You know five hundred bucks on the plush. That's just nuts. I remember when I bought the giant Ditto plus it was like seventy bucks and I was like dude. This is this is nuts who evi- sweet choices lounge fly somewhere not ordering not doing it. Never had the EV sweet choices lounge fi collection a lange fly products are really cool. They make different types of handbags and stuff super good quality. Great Zippers Really Cool Prince and Derek definitely verbal There's an accessory bag to styles mini backpacks to styles of wallets very very very cool products high quality Definitely check these out. If you're into that kind of you know. Fashion meets function style. You know stuff and you WANNA rep rep for EV. And this is what. I'm really excited about a bear Walker. Who is a designer and skateboarder is coming out with a series of carved wood skateboards now? They're not like long. They're kind of in between like a regular freestyle skateboard and Longboard But they have amazing amazing artwork featuring mutual gang Gar Pichu guarantor. Char's are they look mazing They even have their own dedicated landing page on POKEMON DOT COM. I'll put the Lincoln and description. You gotta check these things out. It's just the way that they're painted and with the shape of the grip like it just looks so good Definitely different you know we as easily these are like. They're cool now. Would you skateboard with them? Like obviously you can create a skateboard with them. But like I don't know if I'd WanNa Destroy Dude. I would rock that board so hard that would be so awesome to go play Pogo on. That'd be so cool I would. I would totally rocket that that mutual one man is tight. Looks Awesome but definitely check us out and let it let us know. What would you look if you were to buy one? And I'm sure these things are going to be pricey but if you were to buy one would you use it? Where would you keep it as an art piece? I mean when they sold the Mutsu skateboard it was just the deck. You know just the would this is a complete truck's wheels the whole nine yards You know ready to go out of the box definitely cool though. Because it's it's from you know a known designer and you know carved woods really really cool really cool. I can let us know what you think. All right we through that stuff. Pretty DARN quickly I think we're ready to take a little break. And then when we get back. Watch our episode of pecan shoe revolts. It was a great episode. I'm not going to give anything away. I'M GONNA give it all. Away is probably of the of the eighty four episodes we were. We're going to be watching up to this point this episode in my top three absolutely my top. Three of any episode. We've seen Outta the eighty four to date so very excited to watch this again and talk about it but All right everyone. We're going to quick break when we come back. We're going to watch our episode. Remember watching this through Amazon prime video. That's the place to get the adventures in the Orange Islands Arc. So that's how we watch it Definitely Watch along with us if you want if not just sit back relax listen to the audio and we will tell you what's going on but we'll be back right after this break. We are back from our break. Thank you guys so much for that. We HAVE OUR AMAZON. Prime video queued up but before we do that little house keeping the run through really quick. This podcast is powered by patriots. Please check ours out over Petri Dot com slash pokemon professor where he can support this show for as little as one dollar a month and that one dollar will get you. Access toward patient exclusive discord. 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So darn good little bit information here coming from Bulbous Pedia dot net. This is adventures in the Orange Islands. Episode thirty two. If you're keeping track of that full arc. The original air date. Japan was March Fourth. Nineteen Ninety nine as episode eighty six and is currently episode eighty four in the US cycle original air date February fifth. Two thousand two years and two days ago was when this originally aired in the US. I am fired up. I'm ready to do this. You Ready. I'm ready I guys. Let's start this up three two one go off so yeah man. I'm really excited for this episode. It's going to be hard to contain myself over over. Contain it all right. Well I know in like the first like minute. I'm just like well. These are the things that you know. Without spoiling anything and now without getting ahead of myself just I really enjoyed two major components of this episode the score. It's phenomenal the music. It's intense it's great and the animation style is definitely definitely more aggressive than what we're used to seeing so yes visually and with the audio. It's just it seems like this episode is like on another level. And that's what makes it one of my favorites Sephardi dates really really exciting. So can't wait. Can we get into it? Like how can we put so much anger into this episode? And they made it happen totally did after his victory over the Mike and JIM leader ashes searching for his Neil Lapresse getting so much screen to a true adventurer in his. I like I like. How the near Raiders like his lips. There's Mandarin island straight ahead management of course tracy with Tracy's always kidding. It looks more like everyone takes. Turn MANDARIN LIVING IN JERSEY. Looks just like The New York skyline? Yep Yep I've seen that of course as long as there's a dollar store to look even even the way they just added it looks different. Yep cuts team rocket not just so you see the orange hair. So we know this Jesse James. I think it's payback. Uh continue revolt so Yeah I mean right off the bat you could see that this is now I forget what other city what was the last city they were in. That was kind of like this where it had skyscrapers and stuff was. It was pretty thrilling. I don't know but no not really. I thought one of them but like this one definitely is is the most urban you know but right off the boat you know they see that. There's beef going downtown and peak. It's usually just like Oh. Something's wrong our anger so mad and then Toki joins it. It's funny because like dude. Just that right there. That one animation. Since I'm saying they got thrown in the way they animated it made it look like they got like hit hard. All of I love already. And that's what I'm saying already. So many different things here are like. Whoa is noticeably different and I love ash here. He's been electrocuted so many times that he is just pushing through this like four different electric types. Nothing if it takes not good. Escapist self-destruct though dog gone so. Obviously there are self destruct. Doesn't that killed kilovolt? Her counted that getaway. That's like even the way like the bruises and the dirt are look on Ash just officer. Jenny's a different shade of blue explains got different outfits. He's like grabbing. The COP wouldn't fly in today's Day. Get your hands on the grounds you days. We'd have reports of pokemon that stopped obeying their trainers and sound bite. Him and then the plot unfolds. Here it's not just pitching in Tokyo. That are missing. It's going to be you know we saw the other trainers saying like where the heck did my pokemon go. So obviously something's going on so gotta remember poor Professor Okay still waiting for his GS ball. Ask keeps getting sidetracked. Figure not is right now. He's just come home. Utsa come back to go back. Come back some kind of psychic attack professor officer Jenny with the data since ghastly. I guess go spoken. How can touch it now suspend disbelief? But it's funny because it's like she's clearly has a gasoline growl with oak idea. We're going to do everything we can to solve this mystery. Maybe the the dougie's don't like the water. Maybe it's dead Crowley Oh itself a site where it would be wearing. It's clubbers skull take. I'm just trying to it. Easy ASH ASHKAR DOWN. Tone it down. Could you look? Jan of US. Have ever seen pitcher look like that. Okay Pika choose angry. I was just horrible and MRIs honestly for her to be like. That's such a cute little Toguchi. She's so devastated. I mean you know to this point all the times we've seen Toguchi besides like being like mischievous with like running away and stuff we've never seen it really have any emotion decides you know being evil. Right she talked about song cool and then me off doing some karate move and then boop now you know who looks like He. Looks like Alastair from certain shield for all. He's gone he is out of here and it's nice that they didn't spend too long on team rocket they were just like air. They're gone yeah. That was a thirty second swing. Hey jeeze look there. What is this place you know and I like the fact that they have like teen rocket? They're showing team rocket already like clueless like they don't know what's going on and then here we go. I don't remember the last time we saw butch cassidy but they're back. Could it be. I believe it was when they were stealing all the on and they had only cave. Yeah well that's that's when they got plus that's when they got arrested and it's not it's only room for one team so all the Soga. I love this. The ones who should prepare for travel from from a writing perspective and a lawyer perspective. This is a really important scene. The next line like you get the juxtaposition. Not only have like their looks and their outfits Jesse James were pushing cassidy wear black L. different color hair. And they go back and forth with their motto and I and they all they all are a little bit couple. Believe WITCHY CASSIDY I. I think that's the real you know ready to us now. Will you'll lose the fight. I just so cool. It's just very well written and You we get a lot of character development out of you. Know not only butch cassidy but added Jesse James here to room. Of course exactly James so worried about his reputation whose anything said about me. Were still in jail all right so there you go so they say like. I thought you were in jail. Giovanni bail them out so clearly Jesse. James are going to be super jealous. Because they're you know they're always trying to gain. Giovanni favor and never succeeding is like completely warmed up to butch cassidy. Obviously it's you know something's not right. Airport look at that. Oh God Allah stealing from them right. Driver's face oh bland normally his mouth wide open. No doubt awful said all right all the animation here super bowl super super close now. Yes but they sent a look a ton like where where did adjust to get that that was like two episodes ago. Okay okay okay. Now remember who the customer is telling you. It's just all the way in its belly not. They're not moving a muscle. You all right. Look how all men looks. So Good. So cool so cool so unimaginable. Think on both pedia like it's still team. Ota like it's still the same. Animation teams just seems different there this many episodes in Republicans and on the roof. They're getting better syndication at this point. Yeah they're like I need you guys keep making episodes walk. Can All the kids so I love this? Because we're seeing team rocket have their own POK mon turn against them just like you saw people chew until the against passion missed him. It's like Jesse James Man for all the smack that they talk in all our tough. They always try to be. It's like they're they're really not no not at all know actually here with us. This is look at look at at all the animation. Like it's just it's so stylized in characterized it's just like misty just hit on everything into like a fully like ouch face. I wonder if there's a connection between the pokemon acting strangely something simple like that. Where like gas these gases flowing around. Well officer he's talking. That's what I mean just well. It's super the flow is just nothing. That's like spotty. It's all just what's going to happen to them. Voting so again character development for Jesse James. Were seeing like. I don't know maybe the first time we've ever seen them really show emotion for their pokemon more so than just like them. They'RE POK MON GETTING BEAT UP. They really think that they're POLKA. Monitoring serious danger and tell. I know you're upset about losing your pokemon and it's just tell them Jenny. Is it ash pro? He's so sell great then so cool. I aim you're not getting past me. He's going with his gut feeling this once. Not only this one. I know you guys in ashes. The good people yes will we? There's been a couple times where you know. He's kind of crossed the aisle. Like that where you know. He's put his neck out for team rocket in that. He knows that they're always going to be menaced. But you know when in times of need he'll he'll he knows that they're not that much of a threat so we'll help or take their help to prove something that might come in a. Lotta polka balls. I think we could use the POLKA balls. It would have been funny if they actually like cameo like ashes hand or let's call it true super like Alec Little giveaway that there's somebody in there. I think as an adult we would know. Maybe not as a kid without seeing look. I'll look good still. They probably rated the Evidence Room Police Station Officer Jaime. Contraband don't touch it. Who's back. Poke poke Amman ash you've already seen. It was controlling tons of poke them on in a Tower of the Gentlemen's Club. It's right was it. Yeah was that that was drowsy right. Yep drowsy drowsy in hypnosis on the table. That's what we wanted you to think. Well you got to remember to like the those episodes like the first twenty not the first twenty eight episodes of the giants were like that weird period between the release of red and blue and emerald and be like because there was that weird time where they had to create episodes because the new games were not yet. So those those episodes really didn't happen sort of you know what I mean. So it's like maybe that's why you see a little overlap. There check out. Drowsy is like shaky Russia Kira Shakin. He's like ut right now. Like attached to wires doot is just love. The way they're drawn at so stylized. They're aiming their tax it US up all year in this is all the scene from from everything opening and this fire water writing all combined into one attack ads. That's literally headed straight for the group so good way. God that's gotTa be the thumbnail that shot a peachy right there. I was so cool. Chick Mockery in the background. Ashes getting jacked through spicy spice. So this is an important part in my opinion here. This like how he's teasing Pichu and kind of like you know. He's got some acrobatic but this is the first time we're ever seeing ash actually do real training with pitcher like think if they weren't in this scenario and they were just out training like this looks like a real training thing like you know where he's toying with. Pichu training. Do you talk about. Take one for the team and like just drowsy animation. That's what I mean man. I can't say it enough so good. Oh my goodness instantly wants. Drowsy is kayode all the pokemon kind of snap to their senses. Like what the heck am I doing here? Where am I come? Snuggle me you hard shelled egg. That's not really snugly. We not as long as your best she look at look at how. Sweet Jesse James can be if they're you know in a good mindset man ash dude. You're so he's so loyal. Did just that like that. Animation piece is jumping straight. Dashes are ash ashes arms. Nobody goes anywhere so good. I don't know even like maybe like the frame rate was increased. Like I just I don't know it just all so good. I like how there was. A magic news is running. That wasn't too bad word. This we don't we. I love this like the Inter team rocket rivalry here. It's so cool. It looks like it's to onto auch KNAPP. Who they helped him. Ashes GonNa ask them everyone even with that so cool drew. They didn't drowsy. Just could care like ozzy recovering already sprayed them with the good stuff. Oh poor peak at you like seriously like intimidating looking drowsy using teleport looking at ashes. Like taken back mega knockouts three hit no way no way now that never knew way. S as the founders of team rockets man. I wish I wish brock was there to hear that drowsy bouncing hypnosis attack. This is literally like a level maxed out. Is it? Yeah there's nothing you can do to stop and I like watching cashier so confident. They're like no don't mention we. We've seen metro before right with the cliff area episode with Parys Mountain loosely. And everybody's just like sitting in waiting into spatially everyone's sitting and waiting patiently for ash who's running directly into the danger so awesome until the peace dancing along with it hope and took these hands laid up it. Just it's so cool. Which just by chance. I blew up the entire station at Butch Cassidy were standing on. Bam off to the slammer so I I like that because you know like cartoon on me by this point we would see team rocket be blasted off. You know once maybe twice in the episode this time is pushing casting either getting carted off again instead of blasting off with Jesse James. Because last time they get carted off to jail. Yup I. If you're a citizen even you are now an honorary citizen. We also have A. It's like they were actually GonNa Work Jesse James so cool and I like that. They were listening into accepting changes. Like I wish we could have just accepted ticket. Congratulations you can write on. The Path wrong is where we belong. They didn't even explore never mind the big cruise ship. Just use leprous. Did they even get anything to eat? And Fortune Cassidy. They have no snacks. They have no snacks. They don't know where they're going to ask should have been like. Can I trade this award in some lunch? Toby and it's like a small nod to lake tahoe copies. Boss Mike. Watch out boss Baby Toguchi. Also Dude I love that episode. I just visually stunning. Just really really really well done. Whenever they do Jesse James Character Development I like it because we learn so much about them like when we learn the back story of the bicycle gang and all that in and you know with Butch Cassidy and like you know the rivalry with cassidy engine and Jesse like just so cool so so cool very very well done. Definitely top three contender for me. When it comes to take what we've seen a top five first episode is phenomenal. You know this the whole you know the saints an episode great but this just the styling of it so so darn good. I I I really liked it. I really liked it. Good stuff goodstein. Adam I got a booster bought eight because I've opened a lot Elite trainer box. Oh It's Green Code where you got a son in mood. I mean shorten shield. Okay cool cheese. Oh Psych home. Good is that sets going on all right. See what we got here. Psychic Energy reboot hop polka gear. Three O q ball Toy Chin Chow. Sizzle peed glaring zigzagging. My reverse hollow is a riot horn. And whoa this pattern is phenomenal on this reverse. So cool looking and awe opole to geest poltergeist. Just like what you pulled on. Instable stor And that is in. It's like it has like ninety lanes in the ninety. Hp Or thirty six hundred sixty tragic. It's tragic Shouldn't know God my patches open like the worst way but don't feel bad it's a green code Fight fighting engine Polka gear. Three point pseudo. Elder glass shoulder mobile awhile. Galeria Pony Ta Sabail Miraculous Group gang and my rare is a grappling hook which I didn't have so it's a win. Silver lining several. We'll there's there's got to be a lot of cards you don't have even after opening a booster boxes but still my son. She was like he's I want to shield. Doug I want the shield Doug I did not pull the shield dog Zama Center all right. Everyone that's going to wrap up today's episode. Thank you so much. If you made it as far and watch along with the episode with us it was lot of fun Yeah we put Lincoln description to everything that we talked about on today's episode Make sure you vote for your favorite Pok Mon. Oh we to even talk about that. We skip we. Can't vote for your the POK Mon. Yeah we skipped it You can vote for your favorite POK Mon. Pokemon DOT COM right now. That's why the beginning of the show was so short Put Him on February twenty seventh. If you just Google Pok Mon vote it actually comes up within Google. You don't even have to go to POKEMON DOT COM. Pick your region. Pick your pokemon. You vote every day from now until I think the fifteen or sixteen. Something like that but Just pick magic harp every day. Just pick daily but Yeah so just go to Google and just put in Pok Mon vote and It will walk you through the process. yeah yeah. We totally skipped this part. 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Another Page Turner Episode 18

"You're listening to the PODCAST. Detroit. visit www dot podcast detroit dot com before information. Welcome back to another page Turner with big dog and little stuff. I am Stephanie Menard. Am Thomas Jefferson. And here, yes. Spectacular I know and you're like all bright and I'm like all dark because I did not put my light my lights on. Really I was just like Nah not feeling. I'm I'm facing the natural light this time. Might my my setup is different My MOM's back in the house so I had to modify my studio and. I'm kind of I'm kind of monkeying with it. I, mean I'm basically just in my room, and I'm just moving everything in here, but in this situation facing me as a window so I have natural light on the face, versus just whatever the hell had been happening in the past. Month or so of US doing this the Yep Yep, so it's a little. It's a little different, but you know we'll. We'll make it work until it's. You know back to semi normal. No! It looks good though natural ladies actually the bus Kinda. You can have so. Congratulations. And be in the dark like. Well you can go back into your whole later. Go back into little hidey-hole its fine. So, how have you been I'm I'm pretty good I'm I'm much better now that yesterday. I got a big load of envelopes from the Post Office. They've finally done their job and brought me the things that I need so roughly about one hundred packages or going out to kind of really. Almost finished these kick. Starters finally that I've been waiting on a month to get this stuff And so really all that's left. Now are just some of the specialty items? The metal covers are coming in and And then we got. We got gotta get the The international people taking care of, but that that will probably be taken care of by this weekend, and then we'll be done so I'm super excited to be done and our next kickstarter. The odds stuff. the books are shipping this week, which means the land in Arizona next week which means shipping for that will begin, but I'm not doing it this time I I've actually have folks fulfilling for me now they're gonNA start doing all of this, so that I can focus on the creative side, the marketing side all the things that I can do that. They can't do. And, and so you know fingers crossed it'll. It'll work perfectly of course perfectly. It's going to go so good. Yes, it'd be like yeah danger hugh well. They've they've. They've helped me before, so they they know. And they ship a taunt stuff, too so I don't really have too many issues with with them doing especially, it's easy. It's just one book. It's you know I don't know. A dozen covers. Just look at the sheet. Grab the ones that you're supposed to ship and you know you should be good to go And you know I can I, can I can always get on. One of these things and be like no, no, no, that one that one now so right technology will help now I think we're all connected man. Yeah, makes it nice and simple I. Hope so I hope so i. mean really more so than than we've ever really been you know. Almost it's almost thank you. Corona virus. You kind of forced us to adapt to this stuff way faster than any of US probably. Wanted to thought we would. And but I think in the end. It's well I mean honestly technology is mixed bag of you never really know if it's good, bad or indifferent for a decade you see what it would. Its effect is on society, and so on I mean we may all live be living in our holes. You know in ten years. Just looking at screens Kounose, who knows, but right now I'm good with it and It's it all seems to be working. Fairly well and You know now we just now. The trick is for us for creative people. We have to figure out how to use it to our advantage and really attack in ways that. Maybe were only available to two large scale. You know like we don't get to do commercials and Super Bowl. We don't get to advertise like that, but now we have the ability to actually turn on our camera or a computer, or whatever and actually connect with the people buying our stuff in minutes, and that's crazy, and and that's the part that we created figure out, and I'm going to stop talking now. Now you're good I was along like. Rant, but that's but that's what this is. Sometimes I rant from times you ran all right all right we'll give. It was more like an excited like. Hey, guys, I think we have something special here, and we have to take advantage of it and and and not in a bad way not to like you know we're not here like milk, our customers, but like in a good way like you know, this is our convention now until we have convention, which won't be till next year more than likely This is our convention, and so we have to figure out a way to turn these into events and an exciting things for for our fans and collectors and everything to to come apart. Absolutely will like I'm writing a kickstarter right now and I've been meaning to do like a live video and go on, but I. I've had a lot of personal stuff going on literally from the day my kickstarter launched I've been dealing with a lot of personal stuff, so I haven't been able I had the canceled three interviews, which is like you know I've got him books for the whole month, but I had to back out of a lot of stuff that was for marketing myself. Because I had buyer's that I had to put out here you know, and it's like of course the day I launched by kick starters the day. My life tries to blow. Like of course are you kidding? Just, kind of have to roll with it, but. in in the midst of a kickstarter. Being able to like go live in and talk to people about like how the campaigns going and just connect with them in that way is. It's really nice you know to. The people can see that like it's not just some. Weirdo like trying to get you to buy their book weird, but once you talk. To me, you know I'm like an okay kinda weird. Sure. Yeah hopefully. I'll be able to get to do that today after I go get groceries. Minus the coffee filters though slam the Sasser answers yeah. What the hell are people? Using copy filter swore that Kroger is out of coffee filters. You don't want to know I. That's a question you don't want answered. You're right. Use a lot of things in a Lotta ways they should. Correct, yes, this correct so pretended ask that. On moving us. Oh and actually I was thinking about it. I'm going to share my screen. Do, let's see. Okay. So. This is fine, go to. My kickstarter, it's going to take a second. Omar God. Probably shameless plug time swell. It is and I never get to use those because I always forget. So, yeah, this is my kickstarter. Guys and we'd be Hickel a couple of days ago and we're slowly ticking. Upwards Ergot. A few backers everyday which. All of my high end tears Kinda sold out. So you know everything, it's all lake. Yeah, yeah, they sold out within the first two or three days Loop. The highest tier sold out the first day like two hours. So that's good. but It's been going. Really Good I've been trying to keep in communication with people While I've been. Dealing with this personal stuff, but They're still twenty. One days left rouge. So definitely, give it a look it's it's been going really well. Regard Lake even though. Like I said I haven't been able to. do as much marketing as I typically would. But I have, so I have some interviews coming up. I have one this weekend and one next weekend and So just. Trying to. Keep doing what I'm supposed to do while I'm doing the things I have to do. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That is life. That's the creative creative thing. Yeah, Source Sung just just posted today. Something paraphrasing it. Basically, she is A. Packing packing, packing, shipping, shipping, shipping, drinking, drinking, drinking, packing packing, packing, shipping, shipping show. I'm like kickstarter life that's. Life, that's what it is That that segment in your in your hands That's what you're doing for a month and until it's all done so. It's it's the. It's the non-glamorous side of creating comics and. I don't WanNa do it anymore. Which is why I have? This is why I have shipped off to somebody else to do for me. Now but You know that's that's. For me it's like we're growing fast. I can't do it myself. you know our last kickstarter, princess versus zombies at six hundred forty backers, the most we've ever had. I don't allow US I don't have time to ship six hundred packages and still be writing and editing and marketing, and all that stuff, so ram, so thank you to the folks that Jesse James Comics who are going to start taking care of my fulfillment and they'll start with is in about a week to ten days, and then they're gonNA. Knock it out, and this should go faster, too, because we've got a team people that they can just be like plus up. And you know, get it knocked out versus one dude doing you know fifty packages a day. Oh Yeah Yeah I. Think like my first kickstarter was like. Somewhere between two and three hundred and I had to do it all by myself. My second kickstarter was around two hundred I can't remember. The numbers had to do it all myself like people were like Oh. Yeah, I'll help you hope you know not a single person. Not a single person did no one. You know and I couldn't use like just one extra set of hands. Would have made it. Go by so so much quicker, but I think. For like two hundred fifty packages from Lake, getting the boxes together packing them. Actually even before going through all the product getting that packaged unsecured I'm putting all the tears together in like segments, so that I knew exactly what you know like I worked through like each segment at a time. And then getting everything box, getting everything secured, and then putting the printing the labels and putting them on the boxes, I. Mean It took me. Oh my God I did it in tour two days to eight hour shifts so sixteen hours for. About two hundred packages from or to or to fifty something like that. I don't know it was a lot and it was non-stop like I was at. My table with all my shit. And you know I. Mean you know what it's like? It's just. A, lot of work. For us, we usually have like a dozen different covers. This is like. Picking, picking pick to win, the books came in on this last one. I had to bag and board. Basically three thousand comics. you know that's that's time you know it's crazy. It's crazy. like yeah, do this anymore. and and I gotta find a better way to do it, and there's there's there are those do kick starters and things like this. There are fulfillment houses that will do this for you. Rain. I don't know who they are. Specifically Myself You can also talk to your printer. Because some printers will do it for you to there is a cost involved of course. Oh, yeah, but you know if if you're at a point where you can't handle it, and it's just too much just look into some fulfillment services, and and you might be surprised and you might save yourself. A lot of headache even though it might. Cost you. Five hundred bucks or something to to get it done well, and that's where you have to weigh time versus money. That's right, and so you know that like you know when you're doing, you know six, hundred, seven, hundred, eight hundred. You know whatever for your kick starters, but you're also trying to. You know like backers. I should say and and you're also trying to write stuff and edit, and you know, do you? Can't that timing putting into the shipping and getting everything ready China? You're missing on getting your next kickstarter fulfilled, or you know getting ready for the next thing in your business, so yeah I mean you have to weigh time versus the money and if You feel like it's a worthy tradeoff. much like Dave feels like about INSTA- cart. that. Then you go ahead and you do it, yes. Yeah and I've been back and forth with it and I've had some of fulfilled and. It's worked fine. I mean it's it's. Whatever, but in my mind, I'm like. Five hundred bucks, but now it's just like I can't when you start talking about five hundred six hundred packages is like now if I'm packaging. Day After day after day of packaging, I'm not writing if I'm writing I'm not marketing, if I'm marketing I'm not packaging like now as this isn't working, so I've got to find a better way and You know we're going to run through this. It'll be kind of a test. Run for a big because it's even with is. We had about five hundred backers, so it's it'll be a big. it'll be a big. Thing, and it'll be nice way to test you know what they need. and and how fast they can do it, and then we kind of build on what they do and what they need, and and you know we make it better and better. That's that's the goal right now is everything for me for big Dog Inc the whole year was supposed to do everything better, and we had it down right from the beginning Sheherazade was on time until all this Cova. Crap dropped and then the post office. Stop workings like Oh my. Oh my God. Yeah, so you know what we're behind what we're not crazy behind, so I'm at least happy with that. Yeah well and like for this normally I. Put that I can deliver my rewards like the following month, so this been runs like June. Verse to the Thirty First Normally I would have said I can deliver by July. August because with everything going on with the mailing system, and I have to order the the variant cover The the special on that. I'm having done him ordering from place that you told me about, so I don't know how long it's GonNa, take to get here and You know it's with everything going on. You kind of have to like. Like you said you have to kind of adapt and figure out what's going to work as things change, and that's you know I didn't want to be. I hate when I say I'm GonNa fill something by a certain time, and I can't do it so far had not had that problem, so I was like I'm not having at this time. Just everybody'll get if I say it's going to take an extra month. Just in case I'll probably get it before that but. Built building a little gap and if people get it early, they're not going to be upset. They get an early right. And if they are just weird like I, didn't want this until August lady. SON OF A. I want to send back. Well tended to me in August. No took. Not GonNa Happen. Not GonNa Happen. so okay. I've been reading a little bit in and I don't really know the full story because I'm honestly not lake a DC person. Are we going to do this? Okay, we'll do well. No because I figured that you would know more than I do about this. Go ahead. Finish Molineaux, apparently there they drop dime in further distribution and I didn't really read any the articles. I'm seriously just clueless I'm asking you because I. Know that you know more than I yeah I. I don't know the entered working details because I am not a retailer, so I don't know everything I know is through retailers and I know who have talked basically. DC dropped out of diamond comics like complete. meaning that. They are not being distributed through diamond. Comics Marvel Dark Horse Image. Everybody else goes through diamond comics. They've been the only distributor essentially really for the last twenty years. DC's contract expired two months ago. that's part of the thing that people don't know It also happened to expire right when diamond was like. Yeah, we're not shipping anymore. Because of the Kobe thing right just like a perfect storm. Storm at that point and DC was like. Yeah, we don't like that and so They started working on a an alternative shipping distributor. UCS and I can't think of the other one with the other one was called, and they started to want to ship through. These guys are like well, you know. Where would diamond's fine, but we're going to do this to because they'll put the books out. Turns out. That DC was just giving diamond. Monthly. There's no contract. It's just a monthly will stay for another month. We'll stay for another month. How and that was for the past two months, and then like last week or whenever it was DC said okay. That's it. We're done with diamond We don't know the reasons there have not been any specific like. Diamond sucks reasons. You know it's just hey, guys. We're out of here. We're GONNA go with UCS and the other place, and that's what is GonNa beat now. The issues with that are plentiful. Most of which, though land, squarely on retail shoulders it will not affect us as buyers really at all, but it will affect retailers because retailers now have to. Go through the application process become vendors for this new distributor which not a big deal just do it. Shut up and do it. Guys but the problem is. Is that and this is the big problem? And this is the one that most of them are having a problem. UCS and this other distributor are being formed through. To online comic book retailers. So midtown comics and DC CBS they have basically created these these new distribution things whatever their companies and so the retailers now are like well. Wait a minute now. I'm having to buy comics through my competitors You guys got to really get over the idea of the competitor. You're not competing you compete against yourself and you compete against maybe people in your direct, the synergy, young your local. Ten miles away from somebody. That's that's competition. If you're talking about the Internet folks this people in their pajamas next door to you selling comic Books Online, so stop worrying about competition online and just make yourself better I. Digress I do understand though that that there is the issue because These the the basically it's the worst case scenario element is is what's being dropped in our lap. What if a really hot comet comes out and we get allocated, but they keep comics for themselves. If that should happen. Probably you have a lawsuit. Let's just go talk about the legal side of it. Stop worrying, but here's the thing. We gotTA stop worrying about the worst case scenario. And focus on what's best for the industry as a whole. Diamond or rather DC is going to do what's best for them. I have no control over zero zero control over so we're getting all of these DC I'm not buying carrying DC. Ninety percent of the stores that are complaining are still going to go. Carry these I mean. It's no one's GonNa. Stop by Batman now they might not by as much. But A and that's the other side of it, and this gets into the technical element. I'm being told that the D- Discounting rates are not as good as they were with diamond so where you could get like fifty percent off now they're looking at like forty percent off, so it changes their their dollar structure to right so there. There's there's a lot of levels to this, but at the end of the day you have a choice. You can buy DC comics and sell them to your customers. Or you can't. You can choose not to like. That's literally your options. Right And you need to deter each store will determine that on their own But that that's that's basically the gist of it now. There's the theory that I do not subscribe to that. There will be all kinds of DC dropouts, and these guys will need to replace that product with something else to make that money back, and this is the suddenly the boone time for indies. Hey, I can't buy all this DC stuff so I'm going to go by big dog INC and Aspen. Now, that's not. Yet at. Any level that it's GonNa make a difference. If they didn't care about his before. They're not going to suddenly be like. Champion the INDYCAR. No, that's not gonNA happen. So please don't don't bank on that. If it happens wonderful, you can all tell me I was wrong. which would be a lot of fun to tell tally. He was wrong. Absolutely I. I would take that one would take that one right in the neck and be like okay. You got it. But I I wouldn't count on it, so don't get excited. But I mean there may be some, but again with the roughly two thousand five hundred three thousand stores that that. Were the diamond accounts. Are The against about five hundred of them by indies in any sort of real quantity, like actually put them on the shelf versus a couple of people that want this penny for your soul books, while by the to put them in their pull box, and nothing hits to shop. You know there's a lot of stores do that, too. and then there's like most of the stores in America would be like what the Hell's big dog. Inc By that crap, so you know that's where that's. That's where we have this. This problem is indie books cannot get the respect that they deserve and I'm not going to tell you that. Every indie book on the market deserves to be selling ten thousand units of course, not right but to have the high end of small press be landing somewhere in the area of about three thousand comics on the average. That's pretty low for for you. Know a comic, book sales! and and that's where big dog hit was for most of its. It's time where we would land at an average of about three thousand units are highest was somewhere about seven thousand So you know we did okay but There's there's no grow at that time. Which is why we're not in diamond anymore. and even now with all this is going on. There's no growth potential. In comics through direct market. For Books the growth potential is us. Doing it ourselves. kicks. Are Indigo go to conventions presence like this online connecting with your fan base directly as often as you can. Whether it's through emails whether it's through video chat, or whatever that is the growth potential for indie comics and I see it every single month because what kickstarter I watch, these guys and I'm not talking about just like. Hey, here's a kickstarter Nah I'm talking about the guys that are regular like I'm on this. You want a money issue. I'm on issue. Three I'm watching. These guys grow won't won't won't boom every time. They do it every time they come back. It's boom boom boom. They're bumping up. And that doesn't happen in the world in the in the COP. The regular retailer in they regular retail world. It goes down. You get I sold so many units the number one. Half of that for number two. after that for number three goes down. There's attrition rates in Kickstarter Yoga's online. It goes up. If you do it right, not every time of course I mean every every every product is different at all. Has Its fan base and you know if you put out a crappy product. Nobody's coming back, but generally speaking these guys that are putting out good product. Are Bumping up each time. They do one of these campaigns. And that is the opposite of retail comics so. The Harsh Truth here it is folks, the hardest truth and I've had this conversation with other publishers to. Where I've broached it to them, and they're like yeah, shit I know that's kind of what it is. The harsh truth is that. INDIES, keep trying to save the industry, but the industry doesn't want us. And so I posed the question to somebody anti said. I, don't want to go away. I love this industry I love Comic Book Stores Love Comic Conventions. I love all of it. But none of it is trying to support us. Right I. Are we trying to support it? Why aren't we just focused on ourselves and I? Don't even mean ourselves as individuals like this publisher publishes publisher, but why aren't we? Like you I mean you do your own comics comics. We get together. We talk about our comics. I mean. Why aren't we just as a? Bottom part of the pie saying. Let's just get out and promote independent comics all of us together. And and here's what devils do-doesn`t, and here's what Aspen doesn't. Here's what Zenko does here's. What scout does. Why aren't we all working together? As our own pipe piece or as our own Pie and and helping to spread the word of independent comics through all of these channels? But at the end of the day we need to focus on our customers what they're buying because when we're. Selling through diamond or any distributor. That's our customer. They're buying from us. The Fan, the end user is a customer of the retailer who was a customer of the distributor was a customer of ours. It's a really long chain to get from us us to the customer right. All of that is changing with technology and the way that things work and the industry is very very stuck in what it was. Ten years ago in some cases twenty years ago, the system hasn't changed and. you know. I know I have friends that own comic shops I don't want comics house. Go Way, but we have to figure out a way to. either. Have Independent comics be the respect that they deserve and again, this is not a blanket statement of every indy comic needs to make ten thousand units by right. We should be. In in at least seventy five percent of stores in a in a serious quantity not just I'll buy two for my customers. If you have to customers that are buying it, you probably have two more. That'll buy it if you put it on the shelf, so move orders from two to four and see if you can sell those two. If you do great guess what next. Next time were three and start to grow what it is because everything's a stagnant Marvin. DC are going to be here forever. They're just here. The only way for you to move up is to add something else. Some people, some sorts of added things like Pokemon yu-gi-oh and they've gone to cards and other things. That's their. That's how they're doing growth, but there's growth within comics if And distributors. Decide to. Make that a thing but. It takes a lot of effort. You know when when somebody walks into the store. You can't just keep telling him. Here's your Spiderman. Here's your Batmans. Wonder woman. You got to bring him to the counter. Be Like! Hey, you know. If you like this, you might like this. The Saga Book from Brank Avon you might like this You know whatever from whoever you gotta you've got an up sell, and there aren't enough retailers that understand how to do that especially when it comes to an alternative product, right? Now absolutely, but I I totally agree with you that you know. The community should be working together and I and I feel like there are a lot of people that do that, but it's just. Kind of all over the place like it's not. If we were to come together in like some sort of like a cohesive. Unit with a plan and say this is what we're GonNa, do you? We did it. That, we would be so much stronger yeah it's very fragmented because most of its regional you get segments, and that's natural, because that's where people aren't people are here. People here people here, but again now with this thing with zoom I mean we have like ten people on here at the same time. All being like let let's talk about how we have. Have to do this and there could be somebody in California and New York and you know we can be anywhere in the world and talking about this this subject together Ram and so again it's it's comes back to the thing we talked the beginning. The technology is there to change everything that we're doing now. We have to figure out how to implement. absolately I'm down if we can implement a way for us in these to like, get together and just kill it. I'm down so thrown out I'm throwing it out there people. If you're interested, let's do this. I mean. All of my favorite comics Locations, they all, but almost all. My favorite comics have been East so for me. I mean that's where I spend my money, so I would love to see more any books coming to comic shops because I don't really have to go to comic shops because I go on kickstarter or I go to like the the publisher Stores Online, right? You can't find the stuff in the store. Right you know, and that's it. Takes away business from the store. Because if you had gone in there to get that one indie book, you might have bought. Who knows a toy a shirt? You might about a Batman, but you mean it's. It's I. Get budgets. I get shelf space I get all of that stuff, but also have to understand basic business. Where if you want to grow and that's the key you have to decide. I want right in my business. There are things that you have to grow your business and worrying about. Marvel DC and whatever ret con reboot thing they're doing next month. That's not the way to do. Absolutely and I like going to the comic shop. I just don't really do it anymore. we have a really great comic shop down here big. Ben's and we also have and more, which is a great comic shop. like in big. Ben's is pretty close to my house so I'll just my best friend will come over will go there and we'll spend like an hour going through the bins looking for like. Things I always walk out of there with stuff that I wouldn't off had I not gone into the comic shop, so we we go there. We take our time. We enjoy it. The people that work there are Super Nice and I've had I've had them order indie comics for me and had no problem doing it. You're a great story so I mean if you have a store like that. I mean that's pretty cool, but even now though like I said I'm backing kickstarter for stuff that already know I like I'm going to the the publisher's websites and buying the things that I like I don't have to leave my house, and you know as much as i. I want to. I want to spend my money. At Big Ben's are great store but I. Don't feel the need like when I walk in there. There aren't very many comics I can just grab and walk out with and feel good about because most of them aren't what I read your sure, so it's it's one of those things where again having like you said business growth, even if they had one little section, and they had two or three copies of maybe a few different indies pick some categories that you know that you are that you sell a lot of like. Say you sell a lot of superhero well? There's a lot of people doing superhero stuff. That isn't marvel or DC. Actually, really really good, so you know you can find those books like just know what your customers like, and then search for something that is an independent title that's a good independent title that Lake into those categories and get a shot I mean. What's the worst that can happen? Maybe you spent. I don't know maybe wasted a little bit of money, but you're trying to eventually build your business and make more money and. Who knows it could work? Yeah, it probably would. Again it's just the effort you gotta be able to upsell, and it's easy to say hey. You bought Batman. Guess what? There's three other Batman books you should buy like that's easy. but grass also overkill, but if you can say oh, Hey, you like Batman here's this indie book. That's that's sort of a dark. Superhero thing It might be up your alley That's how you upsell you grow the publisher. That's how you grow your business. It's how you grow interest. That guy that you now just sold that book to goes I didn't even know these books existed suddenly in his mind is going. What else existed I? Don't know what it is. Yeah It all starts flying open. Oh, yeah, it opens up a whole a whole other world, and like when I got into comics. It was X. men and I've talked about this several times. But like that was excellent, was really the only one that I got into, and then I got I, stopped reading them, and I didn't get back into comics until I went to a convention, and all these in the bucks going Holy Hell. They're making all of these things. I've never heard of before this. Really cool creative stories that these people that are sitting in front of me made. And are so happy to talk to me about it and that energy, and that passion for their creations it was like a whole different experience, and I think you know that's. That's what we get. When you're dealing with a lot of indie creators there is that different energy and that and they're like you get to meet the people who create the stories, and you don't have to spend fifty dollars for frigging autograph from like one of your favorite writers Batman or whatever on your, you're getting to talk to people and meet them as they're building up, you know these their publishing or whatever it is, they're doing and. But I don't mean it. It really that energy is very contagious and. That's definitely got into rated comex, seeing other people doing the things that they loved in writing what they wanted not having. Somebody say you have to write this. Nobody's going to buy the thing that you want to write and they're proving everybody wrong. It's beautiful. Like you can write stuff you WanNa, right and people will buy it. You have a good thing you might not. You might not buy a house off of it, but yes, people are interested in alternative things. I mean I'm watching. Kickstart watched I watched all the time just to see what the hell's going on. And when when we were GONNA launch Princess's versus ambiance in April this was right in the middle of all of the hell it started with covert and and everything and. People were like what are you doing? No one's going to be like Yeah. I'm going all in on. Like, nothing is stopping me from watching it this time because everybody's at home and has nothing to do. and. Trust me. It's out there. We might not. Break records, but we're going to be fine. Right. The market for the stuff is out there. I mean I'm watching if you go into kickstarter. You can sort it by popular. Ning soon if you watch if you go in and you watch, What's ending soon? And you just scrolling through you see all kinds of projects in another smaller projects, but even so you think all kinds of projects that might not have ever been making it, and they're all like one hundred and ten percent funded hundred five percents, hundred and three percent funded like people are finding them and making these things happen. More so I think than than I've seen. Watch these things it'd be like fifty percent seventy five percent like these are not making it, but now even though they're just squeaking over, they are funding. They're getting it taken care of so able are absolutely one hundred percent watching this stuff wanting independent things, and and then there's the then there's the big stuff. There's just stuff that I do. There's stuff that Pollino does irs. The stuff that were Michael's does you know there are endless kick starters that are doing well Folks that work with me, CBS Zane Wendy Shiner. Luis Torres I mean all of these guys are doing tremendous work, not just what the comics, but on the kickstarter and and write these guys are coming back again and again and again, and they're growing and growing growing growing, and I think that's one of the problems with Indian general. is you never know if if you're trying and Indie from the retail standpoint? If you're trying to, you, don't know if you should two or three or even gonNA come out I get it. That's right. That's one hundred percent real. And that's similar for US selling books because it's like we can go and say what we've got this issue number one. And they're like well. Yeah, but I'm going to spend five bucks and then are you even finish your story, right? It's it's it's A. It's a rational process but that's my point is. If you're coming in and you're going okay, we did number one. Now. What do we do know you do number two right number three you stop. Everybody keeps stopping expecting like Hey, we've got auburn copies of these things in our closet. What why aren't they selling? Because you're not doing anything with them? You know you've got. Make it and then move to the next one. Make it move to the next one. Make it move to the next one, and that's how you grow and built. I mean that's what I did. With a own end I mean that was the first book that brought to kickstarter. It's the only book I've brought to kickstarter and at they've consistently been funded people. Are you know extremely happy and they keep coming back to tobacco and you know I'm not gonNA kick. Start anything else until this is finished, this is. Important. You know for me to do that and I'm one of those people that. When I started story, I got to see it through to the end A. There's no on to make one issue and then just leave it on a cliffhanger and. Go to something else I mean yes, I do have a little bit of add when it comes to projects. I'm working on like seven right now, but you know I focused you. That's why you have to prioritize like okay own and I have to get the first four issues out. That is by a number one goal, and then all those other ones are prioritized underneath that so but I. totally agree with you like you definitely just. Just because you get something, like an issue one through on kickstarter. a doesn't mean that people are GonNa. Come back to back your next issue. If you go right to an issue to you know you have to make sure that the quality is you know as high quality as you can possibly do and make sure that you follow up on. You know good shipping, good communication, all of that but also yeah, why would you? then. You've got an issue. One and people liked it or they. They backed it and then you just drop that story. I! You're not building competence in your. You know your publishing imprint, or however you know if you have one or not, you're not building confidence in what you're doing is saying okay. We got your money. This quick easy money for this, so let's try to do that again with another issue. And No, no, thank you, I WANNA finish story. Yeah, and and it's. It's sort of counterintuitive like we talked about earlier. It's sort of counterintuitive because in in comics you want to go for a period. Start over with a one, because the one is always your your high point, but in in the growth area in the grass roots growing of your entire brand. You want to keep going because you will see. People pick up as you go along. Versus this from the retail side an aunt or I at again. What you're doing is good and people like it right? You will find people finding it, and you will grow grow grow grow grow whereas attrition on the other side is poor. So you know you have to. You have to understand. There's a lot of. Business and numbers and things methodologies that you have to understand now if you're just coming out in your dislike, I just WanNa make a comic man GonNa Comic. Just make it. put it out. Have Fun. Do your thing, but if you're talking about this as a you know even if it's a side, hustle. To go with whatever else is doing, you have to understand what the the the. All the business parts of are. To make it work, so that can be a solid side hustle, and then maybe even you know at some point, be your primary. Absolutely there's definitely vanity press. Just make a comic comic thumbs up dude awesome right. On Your Bucket List and you did it, and you're like I'm good now. Who then? That's totally fine, but yeah, I mean. I didn't start doing this to just be a weekend warrior. Started doing this because I love to write I wanNA. Write for a living so I have to start writing to be a writer celebrity that and worker know slowly work my way up, and you know again. Either way is fine. If you want to do it for fun to for fine, if you want to do it for fun, and because you want to do it as a career, that's even better. Yeah there's there's sort of this misnomer of. We do comics because. We Love them, and and that's and that's where it stops. It's like. Yeah but no because we love them. Obviously, we wouldn't be doing them right what? If if the comics that you're doing, are not at minimum paying for your costs to keep doing them at some point your you're, your love will dissipate because you're like well I'm just I. Just keep shoveling money into this money. That is in its and nothing's coming of it. To you need to all you need to balance your love. With a situation again if you just WANNA, make a comic great if you really want to put something out. You have to understand. Hey, you know. Why am I having to put a thousand dollars into this every single time and I'm not seeing anything back. That's right then then you have to. Then you have to think about is my marketing. A project is bad, you know. Maybe it's just not a marketable thing. and. That's a really hard A. but with the market so saturated with with comics You really have to find a way to make your. Home. oftentimes work that People don't WanNa. Do they just think there was a guy? To say what the Hell! There's a guy on a post today. Who says are is the comics medium dead I made this cool comic, and it got great reviews and I made a website, and no one's buying it. I'm like. Where's your link? How did you market it? How did you market it? Where's your Promo images on this post there's there's just in this post alone. You have done three things wrong. And then from there. I was like dude. It takes from even from there it. How how long have you been doing this? One issue out will how there's no information. I'll do. It takes time to build an audience number one. you don't just make a website and go. Five. McConnell conquest. It doesn't work like that you know I've been doing this for ten years and I'm I. I still don't own a boat yet. I mean what what? What are people expecting? and I was like it takes time to build his fan base. You need to be every day marketing talking. Social Media. Website means nothing guess what everybody has a website. Dude who cares it's it's it's you. You are the product as much as the product is the product so even if you have a cool product if you're either. Just really aloof, or if you're just if you're a decker whatever I, mean people will judge your product on. Again some of these problems that people have they might need to look in the mirror, not just with the project itself, but themselves and how they're presenting themselves and coming out into big groups I. Mean I'm talking about big groups with tens of thousands of people and just going with the full moon. Where's my wife by my count? That's not the way you go. Train! And he got a lot of reaction. You know and and and even in this one particular group has. Thousand members. They were like dude. Where's your goal? Check out your comic. He never even posted. The link says just like. It some people are not ready for Primetime. Right even if their mom told them there. and. There's also like there's a learning carbon so hopefully this guy taking. Is taking everything that these people who've been doing it longer there. He's taking ended. Information soaking it in and going okay. This is how I'm going to up my game. That's what we should all be doing. That's by I. Always ask my friends questions who have been doing this longer than me because they know what works in if I just sit here and keep doing what I'm doing all the time I'm not gonNA improve or Steve the growth that I want so you know when people people need to learn how to be humble and to accept constructive criticism, you know. I see I'm good with it I I. Me Personally I know you talk to people like me, though so it's fine. Well I've never had anybody. Go Stephanie Your Trash. You know what I mean like I I've definitely been lucky enough to have conversations with people who are are nice, but like also I've been told like certain things I'm doing just aren't working and that I need to improve that and I get that and I'm not going oh well. Screw you then 'cause going to do what I want. I'm like no. This person knows what they're talking about. So how can I learn from them? And that's how we should all be. We all started out at the bottom. You know we all started out. With a very limited knowledge base, so the only way to improve and grow is to to listen. Learn and change your. Adapts man you know, and that's kind of what we're. All doing right now is adapting to not doing conventions and I think for a lot of people. It's actually been working pretty well. like for I know it's been working well for you I. Have some artist friends who are doing really well with like commissions and stop during all of this. So you know it's all in. How do you adapt and change to match? What's going on in the world and how you can get your stuff out there still? On the present look at that is adapt overcome. Yes, yes, I, like it, We've got a couple of minutes left so. Anything, you WANNA touch the last couple minutes. I mean we're we're. We're kind of in a slow spot right now. We are about to launch our ten year anniversary. Hardcover for critter on kickstarter I don't know if it's we were aiming for the end of June, but the the world is crazy right now so I think we might just push it in July. Let things kind of settle that. Some of this Kobe stuffed settle We'll be making some announcements for that pretty soon. but the The cover art is underway mean. Mean the book. The great part about this is the books already done the entire thing because it's a trade paperback so basically as soon as we fund, it's like oink print, and so this will turn around in a real hurry once we once we get this going so I'm excited about it. in fact I'm looking bright here. We have this, too. We have our our mockup critter statue. That's so cute we're. We're going to work on doing that soon too so. You know ten years of of. It for for the next him. I'm excited to woo. And I guess for myself, obviously I the kickstarter, going exact talk about that for a minute. We're shameless plugs in the same show I. Know Look at me. Look at me marketing myself. So, we're like one hundred bucks away from per struggle, which is adding a story in? Which? I I mean I know we're going to get at least that Farner got like a few other struggles that I would love to hit like you know I. Always do a sticker. That'll be our second one you know I, have a couple more ideas, but let's just get through the story in the sticker first and then I'll share that information with you but yeah, so it's on kickstarter until the end of the month and the Hammock is called alien, three and the. Issue for almost done writing and the reason it took me this long to finish writing. The fourth issue is because. It's really hard for me to write last issues like. Because I don't want it to be over. And I'm like I have to double check everything I write to make sure I didn't leave any loose ends. That somebody's GonNa come back and go. Why oughta see me so like? That's cliff hanger stuff that's called. That's called foreshadowing for. Yeah to well, and there's the thing. This is what you do when you when you close arc you. You have to tie up a lot of ends, but you may be open couple new ones. I'm not exactly how issue for going so. Yeah but yeah. I'm really excited about it and we're funded already so now. It's just everybody getting free stuff. Cool definitely, check it out and Yeah, that's it for this week and I hope everybody's being safe and keeping your mass still just because restaurants are opening and stuff does not mean rather the the woods. Yeah, and just be good and we'll see you in two weeks.

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Kingsley Sparkling Brut Rose

The CheapWineFinder Podcast

10:08 min | 2 months ago

Kingsley Sparkling Brut Rose

"Uh. On. CHEAP WINE DOT com. We have another companion podcasts like we always do talking about wine. In particular wines and I got a story. Today was Kinda Weird. I live in Chicago. Just north of downtown and I went out and. You know this is like we're in lockdown in Chicago's. They're trying to do it by the book in. Today was supposed to be the first day that things open up a little Bit Niles. Man and we had the we had the looting, and we had the riots and we had the protests. In this fire you know I was. Watching people yell No. Justice, no peace and so I went out and. Try to go to a store to get wine because I figured out. I need a pick-me-up I'm going to get something. I really liked to drink and everything was shut down in boarded up. And after all you know after being months in lockdown to see everything boarded up was kinda depressing. But actually I've had it easy I. I'm not sick I. Don't know anybody's sick. Know in I don't really know anybody who suffered too much from the lack down. Most people I know. He'll did did what did fine the. We're happy to be But you know it's like man's but. There's a sunny side of the story. And that's because Joe was open where I live, it's on the there an old factory building. On the second floor. I mean it's kind of nondescript. You had get up there and they're fine. No one did anything bad to them so I. Go up there and I'm looking around. You have to wait in line to get in of course. And I picked up the Kingsley California sparkling wine Brut. Rose Zeh UH method shop watt, which is the traditional method, and it's six ninety nine, and it's made by Iraq and riddle. And it's like wow! Six, ninety nine for a traditional method. Sparkling wine is kind of. Really you, you, you see some. Value Price. COBB which are awesome. The methods it just as quick refresher. There's two main kinds. There's more than two, but there's two mankind's would bubbles in wine. the Shar methodist how they make per second. They have these huge. Tanks that are pressurized and they pour the wine and thereafter it's been fermented once it's still one. And they add a measured amount of sugar in yeast, and then they glock it up and put the pressure on, and then it depends on each producer, but it could be a couple of weeks to a couple of months and you got bubbly. With the traditional method or a method shop on wild like they said on this champagne. They from it the first time they've battle it. They don't bottle all with the top in the each bottle. They add a little bit of sugar little bit of Yeast, and then they block it up temporarily. And, then and Champagne and California Bob. There's no rules and regulations for California bubbly. And paid for next year and a half every two days. They move it a quarter turn because the dead yeast can stick to the inside of the neck of the bottle. You'll never get it out. So nowadays, it's all mechanically done, but back in the day. It was done by hand. You know. Carpal tunnel, syndrome, some guy was moving that thing. A quarter of a turn of there'd be million bottles and when he's had multiple guys doing it. When the one guy was done with the million bottles, he went back and started again. That was his job. Now it's mostly automated. It gets moved from you know this meal either machines that move back and forth something happens. Now there is no information about Kingsley I. Don't know other than rack and riddle made it rack and riddle. QUAKE FROM CHECKPOINT FIGHTER DOT com. You've probably just he did A. Just did one checkout quake in Alexa. Talk about wine, and that's just a couple of days ago podcast. He visited rack and riddle on one of his tours of Sonoma's, and he said every single a bubbly brand in the United States. He saw a palace up in Iraq and riddles sonoma facility. They make bubbly for every well. Yeah, almost everybody certain people make it themselves, but if they don't make themselves racking riddle, does it so they know what they are doing i. don't know what the grapes are. I don't know anything. About this one other than rack and ruin at six, ninety, nine and trader, Joe's sells it. So that's that's pretty much, you know. He's traditional method California Champagne made by. A. Really kind of will liked my producer. And a sixty-nine. You know it's like well. There's there's something going on here. Either I was made to be ninety nine nine, which could have been? Or Rack in riddle hats, something leftover and decided to sell to trader Joe's or some kind of scenario arrived, and actually I think it should have cost more once I knew. I was when I started drinking and writing about it in the review and. That's on cheap wine finder dot com. You can check it out Kind of looking for reasons why it. It's you know there's the wrong with it. Because I've read that bubbles you can tell a quality wine by the size of the bubbles, because like in Even works for project for. Champagne works for any sparkling wine, the longer the second fermentation last. The tenure the bubbles get the the better their INC so if it doesn't last very long, it's not were very well incorporated, and the two bubbles in there are larger. But how do you tell the difference between a teeny tiny bubble and a tiny bubbles kind of hard to do I'm looking to those tiny bubbles or the TD bibles. What's going on and? I think they're tiny bubbles. When I wrote about it then I looked at it again and when I don't know. I don't know what the grapes are. Just took a SIP. It's got some that lip smacking city that I. Like especially good for inexpensive wines because it. If you have expensive bottle of wine, you WANNA drink it at your own pace, but once inexpensive, if it has that INEX- that that lip smacking kind of tantalize you kind of beckons to take another sip, look good, 'cause he always six ninety nine. You can be that. You know it's almost three bottles are still only twenty one bucks. You can drink all you want. If, YOU HAVE A. Twenty dollar bottle of Champagne. You might want to make it last a while, but these drinking them up. So there you go. This is a ridiculously priced. Champagne method bubbly. Made by someone who's probably made half the California Bubbas? You've you've had to drink in your life. So that a ridiculously low price from trader Joe's. I haven't heard anything about it. Kingsley have never seen this bottle before this brand before. A lot of their wines are from either. Buddies are from France. or or maybe Spain and a? Lot of times they're Sharma method of if a wine above does not say traditional or champagne champenoise on it. It's probably Sharma because any time it's made in traditional method. They Brag about it and anytime soon the sharp method they kind of go. Yes, MEN CHARBONNET! so not that it makes a difference because there's there's really a wonderful drinking. Sheremet met their wives and you know. If you like it, you like it, and there's not that much, you know. The ones not great, not bad at. They're both good. So, this is a six ninety nine. Bubbly? Trader Joe's made by people know what they're doing. I was kind of bummed out looking at the. Ford up doors around here the Santa neighborhood they has boarded up thanks. And now I'm kind of happy because I'm drinking wine that. Unexpected and it made me happy, and that's what wind does to you and I hope everybody out there did well. It's opening up now you can. Walk to the store I have a mask. I have actually kind of BANDANNA. Kind thing. I go for you. Put It on this. Leave it on. And I was like one of the three people wearing. You know what the Heck I think. Jesse James Robbing a bank, so I'm cool with. So, if they can't, they can't rock that either. It's not my fault. It's their fault, but there you go What's the name of this thing again? Kingsley California sparkling wine and the? Traditional method the method Chapman y that because they're really cool there where they could they, they speak French with the swine, though it's California and I don't know grapes I. Don't know anything, but I did six ninety nine days real good so. You. Don't need to know much more than that, so we're talking to everybody lately you know in the next couple of days. We got a bunch of stuff going hopefully as everything opens up in the world I don't now what the world! Going to get better or not, I'm not sure what's happening, but we'll talk to you, and we'll keep the wind going so audio. Skip a cheap and

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Steelers Hangover: The high's and lows of the 2019 offseason

Behind the Steel Curtain

48:53 min | 1 year ago

Steelers Hangover: The high's and lows of the 2019 offseason

"Pittsburgh steeler fans you are probably confused out of your mind right. Now you are wondering where is my renegade theme song that kicks off the hangover every week. Where is the Golden Larry Nix <hes> that is Brian Anthony Davis well? Unfortunately you don't have either of those this week because in an attempt to start the transition of the hangover onto youtube we decided sense Brian finest currently in the woods with the scouts. I'm sure he's itching and scratching and sleeping on the ground and all that terrible stuff in order to to get this transition going we decided this week. We're going to give give our first test. The of trying the steelers hangover on youtube fortunately for you all for those of you that love the hangover joining me this week as always usually joining Brian is one Tony Deaf Yo Tony. How are you this evening A._J.? How are you and I think joining us? Thanks for helping out this week with the show and the experiment is preseason so I guess what better time to try it like this so look forward to target some students football with you excellent excellent yes this is we're GONNA we're GonNa see we already know that the sound quality is probably going to be better on the podcasts coming from Youtube so hopefully we can get some feedback from this and see what people like there we do have the live chat going on. I know a lot of people do not realize that we are on Monday night for the hangover because I've never seen it before but here we are. We're going to see what we can do but this is kind of interesting that we're doing doing the first time on Youtube because we are talking about the biggest hangover Pittsburgh steeler fans have had for a long time and that is the seven almost seven month hangover that we have we've had since week seventeen of the two thousand eighteen season until now because we have had the biggest off season the longest off-season that we've had for a while with the steelers not making the postseason but the end is is near Thursday players report Friday first practice Sunday. I practice in pads Tony. How you feel what about knowing that this season's coming up? He hit go ahead. That was the longest off-season ever I mean when one controversy after another at least early on right after the in Australia right after week seventeen with the Antonio Brown stuff when he <hes> when he was deactivated activated and then everything it just kickoff very like almost disastrous off season but you know they've been people can piling on the team <hes> since basically since since <hes> their season was over so I'm excited. I'm excited that we're GONNA get have some questions answered about about the offense by the defense about the leadership about the camaraderie everything so I I can't wait a few more days. I know it's right here. I feel like it should be here already. I feel like like we're saying Oh. It's right around the corner and yet it's not here and next thing you know I know I'm going to be sitting back on my couch watching that first preseason game which I can't believe it. It's only two weeks after they report so we are. We are less than three weeks away from CIGNA steelers on the field but what you said leads right into the topic of tonight's episode and that is we're going to talk about this big hangover. We've really been hung over in this off season so you kind of go through stages in a hangover here so we're going to say let's look at these eyes and lows of this past off season. What was the high points? What were the low points which ones were were more dramatic where the where the peaks greater than the valleys or how's it going to work out? What do you think they're Tony? What do you WANNA start off with? I think we interact with the the low points because it leads to the high points which are we're. I think we're at right now so I think we'll start with the low points and I was like I mentioned the Antonio Brown thing right away at that you know calling into question. Mike Tomlin's ability team called into question. Then rothlisburger is a leader. You know you know we see part of the problem or was he a true leader. You know so I think that was everything everything that you heard right. After that Bengals game with Antonio Brown <hes> no showing practice that week after the <hes> the reported <hes> spat he had with with Rothlisberger at practice you reports Ford City threw a ball at rothlisburger out of frustration. I think that was the <hes> 'cause they basically had to had to part ways than at that point because you know he he wouldn't return his bosses calls not Mike Tomlin but art rooney to second so I mean there. There's no no choice but to get rid of the guy but it it just it was definitely a depressing time. Here's a guy that I idolized for eight years eight or nine years. I thought he was the greatest football player in the league and for his relationship to end with the team so ugly ugly it just it just it was the low point of the season Tony. I think you're exactly right the season the off season started at a low and it just got lower. It started with the low first of all you know even though the steelers did win their week seventeen game but we all remember the footage of them on the field. Some of the bengals players hung out with them with them. I'll watch the jumbotron my brother-in-law was there with my nephew at that game. I was supposed to Code that game did not go to that. Does I was unable to have anyone who wanted to buy my patriots tickets so I ended up going to the Patriots game as my game last last year and then <hes> my brother-in-law who had only gone to one game usually goes to two I said why don't you take that one because he couldn't do the Patriots game. We worked out that way. He was waiting for the playoff game the next week and I said you better get the game while you can so he took my nephew. They went to the game. They said that was the best part was watching the end of the Cleveland Baltimore game on the Jumbotron with the players on the field. It was just a great experience. Unfortunately they were one. I doubt away from kicking that game winning field goal so it started with the low and it just got lower and lower and lower and I kind of want to tell a little story about that because I've mentioned it on the on the steelers preview before and that is the whole situation was just so sad for someone who's a steeler fan but of course because I'm such a good fan so where my kids I have three kids. They're all young. My oldest is is just about ready to turn eleven it <unk> actually week from today is when when she'll turn eleven and Antonio Brown was their favorite they didn't know very many steelers players by name but Antonio Brown was one that they knew and then I had to explain to them what was going on before they went to school in hurt from kids. Hey what's going on with the steelers and it was just so sad half to explain the situation to children because even my kids were like why is he acting like that exactly right yeah so and I just remember as the whole thing went on and it dragged out every once in a while my daughter would say dad did Antonio Brown Apologize Ajaj yet and they get over it and move on no sweetheart he didn't. I'm sorry she asked me again and finally I said you know what it didn't sweetheart. They actually traded him yesterday and she's like well then he's dead to me. It said and that's still what she says to this day when anyone mentions that name so lance Williams says we're not going to call him by that name anymore. WE'RE GOING TO CALL MR third and fifth. I like it because because that's what he has to the steelers now because that's what he resulted in it wasn't any Lombardi's it was just the third and a fifth round pick which I know is a little bit harsh but that just that spiraled into how would you describe the lows of this off season compared to years years pass Tony. What do you think this compares? I think maybe I'm just framing it because the social media and everything's just blown out of proportion nowadays but I think it's it's up there as far as because when when you look get the steelers image compared to five ten years ago I mean they were the class of the of the N._F._l.. At least that was the perception and now as you know like I wrote about the other day every time you turn around people are casting aspersions on them. They're they're they're down on on them. They're picking them to behind the browns which I mean. I think the browns can be really good so you know maybe there's that that's warranted but I think this is. This is just the fact that everybody's you're questioning Tomlin questioning. Ah whether the the window has shut on rothlisberger and whether he's like I said a few times already whether he's been a good leader because I mean he's been getting powered on off season to know from his performance to his character everything thing and and for for a player like you mentioned your kids how much they love you Antonio Brown and rightfully so he was a hard worker the hardest we're Kinda team you know as a cliche now but he was the hardest worker on the team and he was so clutch for them. He was so close that he was he was going to be he may be already still is and he was going to be the greatest receiver in team history. There was no question about it. Maybe in the history of the N._F._l.. As far as staff and for his for for the the the relation to end the way it did it's just it's just sad and and now you have you're missing your pro bowl receiver. You're all pro receiver. Obviously you're Lebanon. Bell is gone and he was GonNa last year so so I think they already know how to deal without him but you're you're missing these key pieces and these are guys that we once went crazy for and now we hate them and we have to try to move on with thousand so the expectation in Pittsburgh are always going to super bowl or bust and and now trying to head into twenty one thousand nine with these two. I think it's one of the most important off seasons if they've had in a long time as far as negatively it's right up there. I think since the late nineties with both our when the stuff that they went through with him after they after their playoff run ended. I think this is right up there with that. Yeah it was it was pretty bad. I would say it's been the worst in ten years for sure I know when there was the the different things going on with Ben Rothlisberger Burger early in his career the motorcycle accident the accusations those sort of things when he was very young that made for a very sticky off season but this this was different because this wasn't just a player player that made some decisions away from football that you had to question this was actual on the field in the locker room stuff and to me that was that was a really big deal and it was shocking to me. All I ever heard about was how much of a hard worker Antonio Brown was and then as these things happen you find out how much everyone's been covering for them. All this time that he he he always shows up late to everything the not staying with the team during training camp all these other things that they've kind of tried to keep as quiet as they could all this time and it was just there was no reason for them to protect his image anymore so that was that was the like you say. That wasn't just a valley for this off season. That was a valley generational. This is hopefully hopefully everything is going up from this point for the Pittsburgh steelers because that was one of the biggest lows they've ever had so then we start to go back up a little bit. We hit that free agency period the steelers go out and make a little bit of splash. Would you call the free agent signings. Would you call that a high of the off season. Absolutely absolutely I mean they they went out and they addressed the secondary. They got a bona fide starter and Steven Nelson. You have to applaud them for that because you know it just wasn't working out with already burns and so many other people as they tried to put the opposite Joe Haden they went out they saw weakness and and they and they found a guy coming into his own and it was prime is his first big contract and Steven Nelson and then you go out and you get a Dante moncrieff veteran receiver <hes> ah put alongside. Do you know I think that's important. I mean he's not going to be Antonio Brown. He's they're going to get one hundred catches pro I mean at least I don't think he is but if he if he can be a strong veteran presence and an a big time contributor wtrw on the other sides somebody could take the pressure off you as a big signing then obviously mark Barron a veteran linebacker who can also play a dime safe dime linebacker as a safety so I think there was three pretty I it AH showed that they're not ready to <hes> they're still trying to win their store trying to build a winning winning team and and and and move on without Brown without bell so yeah I think it was that was definitely a high note absolutely recently. I think the steelers did a nice job in free agency. I think they addressed some positions that needed to be addressed. I don't know that they addressed everything but they I felt they put themselves in a really good a position going into the draft that it wasn't that big glaring need that they had to do something in the draft so now we're GonNa talk about the draft in a minute because to me. That's where we're going to get to the highest of the high. But why would you put any lows in there. was any of the players at the steelers lost the free agency the anything significant there nothing really <hes> i. I was sad to see up people like <hes> Arthur merge go but I. I don't really think that there were any true major losses I mean maybe I'm missing one. You know maybe you remind me of something but after shot my head I mean it's it's it's been a long season so you know my brain's Kinda say it's been so long dip and all the way back to two thousand eighteen because our our was the year before we did retire tire in this offseason. That's right yeah so that's still fresh in our minds now I would say I was. I was somewhat sad to see L.. J. Fort go because I thought that he was really growing into a very athletic linebacker but the the steelers were going to address that position so I understood why they didn't keep them even though it would have been on the pretty cheap was surprised that they kept Anthony Cicchillo for so much more than it would've cost to keep fort but the steelers were a lot thinner at outside linebacker. When it came to depth? I was pretty sad. Is He Jesse James Go. I knew it was going to happen. I knew someone was going to give him the money that the steelers couldn't I'm happy for him that he got the contract that he did but it really would have been nice to see him. There's a Pittsburgh steeler. What do you think of that one yeah I like? I can't believe I forgot about that one then again. It's like I said it's been a long season. <hes> yeah I mean he was a good a good number two tight in that was probably his his best position. Seem to be a good number two tight end who could get you the clutch pass every now and then get you thirty forty receptions a year but hey you can't. He can't <hes> blame them for leaving for that kind of money. I mean if they're gonNA pay him that. I think eleven million dollars guaranteed reliance is pay him. You know I mean it is sad as far as the T. team itself as far as <hes> on the field because you know who's your number two tight end now. They're going to be Xavier. Grumble is they're going to be the rookie that they brought in. I mean I don't know I mean fans. McDonald's seems like the real deal but without a true number two at least not yet it. It's you know it's it's a little scary so yeah. That's one that I've said go in for the way hit the way you know he it was kinda victimized in two thousand seventeen with that non catch against the Patriots or non touchdown yeah he was he was a good steeler in sad to see him. Go Yeah I saying he was a good steeler. I think is a great way to say it. I kind of feel bad for the guy. I don't feel bad for his payday. He's GonNa get his payday no matter what but what I feel bad for is he goes to Detroit and then what the Detroit doing with their first round pick. They draft another so I always thought personally. I like Jesse James so much. I didn't even think of him as a number two tight end. I looked at him as a one B that Vance regatta was Jesse. James was at one be when Vance McDonald was injured. James had to fill in. I don't think think they lost very much. They just lost having that second guy so hopefully he can still be a one B guy. <hes> who knows maybe he'll even still get that chance to be the one early on there in Detroit so I wish him the best of luck the steelers the only way they'll to play against him this years if they meet in the Super Bowl I would not have a problem with that <hes> to see Jesse James there so other than that and then of course you know although he wasn't with the team last year. Levian bell was was a free agent loss. I don't look at that too much of a low because the steelers didn't have last year that's almost kicks into where it starts to go up hill because it just showed how much of a poor decision that he made with the way he handled things and the lack of contract he received that he had both both offers from the steelers were much better than what he got. He still convinced himself. It's better because he got more guaranteed money but he wasn't looking at the way that the steelers structure their contract and how much he would have definitely been getting anyway the you just the way they do guaranteed money he had it stuck in his mind to be a certain way and not looking at how the steelers do business. He was unwise his agent. I don't understand how he could ever get a new client in the N._F._l.. But that's that's the biggest mystery to me <hes> but he's gone and hopefully everything's still goes well. The steelers can get an extra well can get back that third round pick that they traded away in order to get to our mountaintop at least in my opinion and I I hope it is yours that mountain top of the off season the steelers identifying their man knowing they wanted their man and doing everything they had to do to go get their man and they moved up ten spots in the first round to draft Devin Bush Tony. Is that the peak of the offseason. I knew you say because it was mine too yeah on forget where I was. I was at a bar after a big six mile run. We're watching the draft. I'm barely paying attention to it because she'll the draft twentieth. There's no way they were gonNA trip. They never do it right. They're always they always stand pat right. Chemical would always stands pat and then when I'm sitting here talking to my friend who was across from me and I had my back to the T._v.. And he said the steelers are up next and you hear all this clapping simultaneously Eh and and you know everybody knew was going to be seven Bush right then and there if it wasn't gonNA be Bush than it was it was like the biggest it would be biggest tro job and Mike Tomlin history as a coach so it was it was just a great thing like you said they were. They needed to find centerpiece of that defense again to replace Ryan Shazier because he meant so much to it. He was such a big part of it. He he basically <hes> he was the focal point and now you bring in a Devin Bush. He's unproven. You don't know if he's going to be able to do it but he certainly seems pretty close to a can't miss prospect so yeah. That was definitely the high point and I'm so he's what I'm most excited about. I train again in preseason seeing what he can do yeah. I think think there's a reason for steeler fans to be excited now. You know we're going to get those naysayers that are actually what's sad is. They're still going to be steeler fans. I know this is the kind of stuff Tony Likes to talk about. I wouldn't be surprised surprised if we have steeler fans out there that are looking to see him fail just so they could say they were right in that. They shouldn't have moved up to pick him. If that's the way you want to be as a fan. I don't even know if I have words to describe it but I'm just like I don't ever want to see the team failed to see that I was right. I want to pick against the team half the time because that way. I don't want to just be right when I'm wrong. I'm like if you pick against them then. You're happy that they proved you wrong right match because there's such a cottage industry the draft off season. I mean the draft season in spring people. Just I think some people love that more and they love the actual regular season and you know they. I want them to pick their guy the guy that they've been watching you know the tape of the guy that they you know they want. They want like the feel like they're like an expert. That's what I think a lot of it is and also to like you said you can't please everybody ready and and there's always gonna be people out there that that that think. They should've went left when they went right. Even if right was the right move so yeah but to me. It's all about the team. It's all about you know. I don't care if they picked you know the guy that I wasn't even thinking about like if he turns out to be a great player like of Terrell Edmonds turns out to be the next Ronnie Lott. Nobody's going to remember that he was a quote unquote reach. You know last year so whatever that was the spring. Let's move bonded regular season and who cares about if you're right or wrong you know on draft day Tony. You said something really important there about how you didn't if they wouldn't have picked Evan Bush there when they moved up you would have trusted that they kind of had an idea what they were doing anyway. That's how I generally feel with steelers draft picks. I'm like just because I don't know what much about a person there's some of that. I think they're going the draft that they don't. I just instantly right off of they know a lot more about this than I do so I am so glad that the steelers aren't just trying. They're not trying to please the fans by making the moves or drafting. The players is at the fans want. They want to please the fans by winds on the field. They don't care that the fans want the next quarterback on the team already. They don't care if the fans want this big free agent signing. They don't care if the fans want you to draft this certain player. I mean even I heard from so many fans. I was convinced that the steelers were gonNA take chase one of each when he was available there with their second thick but that wasn't because the team thought much of mm-hmm that was because so many of the fans thought so much on them and I'm not saying he's going to be a good picker a bad pick. He's almost as older steph onto it. I think that's all he's only less than a year younger than Steph onto it so I think that was one of the things that steelers shied away from a bad injury an injury but they had a plan all along and I'm the kind of guy that I trust their plan. Now you mentioned where you were when they drafted Deafen Bush. My story is a little bit more interesting because I general I've a group of friends and sometimes it's group keeps. Keep growing and growing that we like to go watch certain types of movies together the generally were star wars superhero types of movies and that just happened to be the premier of avengers. There's infinity war and I was actually at the movie theater listening to the draft on my ear buds in for the last forty minutes or so of the movie knowing that well the steelers they don't draft twenty. I got some time to come out. You know I got some time to finish the movie and get home before we go live with well. After on the PALO CASS after the pick and the movie was over I come out and my signal died and my phone couldn't get another one. I had to reset my phone so trauma leave in the movie theater my phone resetting. I get in the car turn on the radio and they're talking about the Pittsburgh steelers pick. I'm like what are you talking about. So I'm scrambling trying to get my phone up texted with Jeff and Brian and land or getting ready to do how soon were going on and I didn't actually hear the pick I tape the draft and went back and watched where I where at t vote it and it was so exciting but it it I was so panicked of having to get home to do the podcast that I didn't get to really enjoy it as much as I hope but boy did I enjoy it when I watched it back. I watched that back probably giving us four or five times before I got rid of it so because that was the high that was a high have the nice rush. How many times do you say oh? If only the steelers would make a move and go get dot dot dot and I've kind of learned to say that's not the way the steelers work. That's not the way the steelers work they do it occasionally and you know what they they did this year and to me. That's one of the biggest highs of the off season that I think that steelers fans have had for a while that they did what they did. They went out of their way to do what they wanted to do for the draft so I don't know how about you but I think since that moment we've just kind of been fluctuating up and down a little bit. I would say one of those up. Trans was Ben not answering anything not talking to the media a while all this other stuff was going on that was that was a that was a high for me. I like that the way that a lot of these players have handled things really like that but this is Cara Swisher. I want to tell you about my podcast Rico decode every week we have candid indepth conversations with people like Elon Musk Nancy Pelosi and Kathy Griffin we talk about how they got to where they are today and how their work is changing our world new episodes of Rico decode are released every Monday and Wednesday and we often have bonus episodes on Friday subscribed for free to be the first to hear them on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP right. Now I just feel like since that that moment of ups and downs that I feel like we're more kind of you know right around equilibrium right now because we hit that low we hit that big high with just kind of been maintaining to see what these guys are going to do and I just feel like we're building and building and building towards training camp on Thursday. What do you think Tony Brian has been sitting? It's Kumbaya feeling the last few months I think you know these players. They appear to be closer to they appear to be focused. You know they appear to be determined to change change the perception of the team the reputation that went from classy to you know to circus. It's just a big circus. Well I mean this off season ever since all this stuff happened with Brown you know and then bell and the two of them coming out against Ben in these interviews and you know tarnishing the image even more of the franchise ever since that all kind of dissipated and it went away and you had to hire the draft and minicamp and rookie camp and all that stuff the as the O._T.. As I think that was it's also important to show everybody like togetherness at the cookout with the defense and you know the the offense going to to bend home in Georgia everybody was like sort of bonding and you see offense and defense coming together like big AL and and teach walk going fishing together. You know I think that kind of stuff was just it was great to see you know and then all the charity work the players are doing of course you who's Juju and just everywhere and just being the people's champion and like the you you the greatest new steeler come along as far as personality and play in decades really and it's just it's just everything's just been such a felt so good since you know probably April and of course Ryan cheesier everything about him just been just an absolute blessing what he's been able to overcome the last eighteen months or so yeah. I think you're right and I mean there's just been so much there. There's it's so much to take in from this off season. It's been so long I feel like we're such a good place because we didn't get those injuries in the offseason either since throw T._a.'s and all that I decided the attorney start checking out some stuff in the live chat a lot of people really before we even had a chance to say it. We're ready to say yes. Devin Bush was the hi Devon Bush was dial. They don't even want to talk about the low and that's great. That's what I WANNA see. Let's let's put those lows behind us. Let's get these highs going and get moving into two thousand nineteen the right way <hes> Felicia join us in the live chat through. It's a sticker earlier. I can't always see exactly what came across with that sticker but we really we. We really appreciate that. FELICIA throws throws something in the tip jar. She also threw out a comment that said the Bush announcement was almost as good as Ryan shazier walking onstage to announce Edmund slashed here that that just the excitement of that for but this year for a whole different reason it's to be excited about how it's going to translate to being on the field so lots of highs. Let's forget about those those lows. Let's remember these is we'll get these hiring going into the off season now Tony. Did you WANNA take a few minutes to see do the first ever since we can't have callers call in like they do on blog talk. You want to do the first ever real quick rapid fire questions from the live chat on Youtube ever on the hangover. You want to give it a go for a few minutes. Let's do it okay so we'll we'll take a few minutes. If you have any questions you WANNA throw out right here especially if we're looking at this past offseason but but whatever you guys WanNa throw out to Tony and I you can type your question there in the live chat as Jeff always wants to remind people. If you want your question answered for sure you have have the super chat feature. which is the little dollar sign right next to what you type in you click on that you just throw any amount of money? You wanted a tip jar and we will guarantee to answer your question. Please don't take this as US trying to ask you to do this. Yes this is completely on you. We we're we're all right if not one person does anything with the super chat feature. We're just happy that people were in there asking any questions so I might have frozen up on mine because if I haven't gotten anything for a couple of minutes that happens occasionally so if I can get back in there just to see if anybody else wanted to get anything else in the live chat so <hes> all right now I'm looking back so a lot of people like I said like liking. The Devon Bush moment ads at a four ten carpenter legend said that he watched some Toledo Games aims and liked what he saw from the steelers second pick of the Andre Johnson who Brian and Jeff give me a really hard time trying to say I hated the pick because when that picked came across I was like did they have to make this one yet. And you know we talk about him and making fun of him with his with his touchdown zone comment that we have a tendency to to not let things die so they keep giving me about the Johnson Johnson although I think he's going to end up being a big super sober at the end of the year. What do you think about the Johnson going into this year I mean I'm excited now after like after digesting the pick and seeing what he what he did in college the productivity and and how how multi multi talented he is and you can do things but as L- as he can get opening he get open at the line of scrimmage you know he's great open-field but like you when when when when I made the pick I was like who's this guy you know and then you look at the the rankings and he wasn't really howdy ranked at all but but as we as you said you know <hes> I trust I trust their their judgment right? I mean they they know more about this than we do and and and <hes> they we do know how to how to pick felt receiver so there's every reason in the world to be excited about the guy just went. I WANNA sing with the football on his hand and I want to see what it can do. I just want to see how you know he had too. Many big plays in college. I WanNa see if that translates to the N._F._l.. Yeah you're exactly right there. He's one of those guys if you ever have if you've ever drafted a fantasy football team in your in the past I know Jeff's going to give me a hard time because he does not like traditional fantasy football. He's more into the daily fantasy but if you do traditional fantasy football draft especially if you've ever done them in person we all sit in a room and put names on a card and put them on the wall. Those are the best back in the day back in the late nineties early two thousands and I used to do when you have that sleeper pick that you wanted and then you would make that pick and three or four other people would get all mad that you jumped on that sleeper before they did. That's how I feel about the Deontay Johnson pick after the fact. I didn't know much about him but when I now other N._F._l.. All teams were pretty high on him and hoping that they could they could grab him at some point that they thought was valuable. They were upset that they didn't grab him sooner so I I really liked that. We did get snowman. Throwing five dollars. Tip Jar wants to know how excited are you about this year's team. Go ahead Tony because I think everyone knows the answer for both of us but let's go ahead and say it. I'm very excited I mean I think they have a lot to prove and I think they're still very good team. Mike Tomlin set himself <hes> yeah we we lost a pro bowl receiver and a pro bowl running back. We have a pro bowl receiver inappropriate running back on a roster based on last year so you have that and you have the defense I think T._J.. Watt Oh my goodness I think he is this close being a defensive player of the year candidate and I'm excited about your heart grave. I think you know there's been so much talk about him and seventy how many battles he won last year individual battles. I'm I'm actually if they if they can get him more playing time and of course you know Devon Bush and Steven Nelson. There's so many reasons to be happy and excited about this team. Exactly I'm super excited about this team. You mentioned the T. J. Watt he was my pick as has as a player could possibly make all pro this year when when we talked about that during the steelers burning question super excited like what I see you know what you and I- writers for behind the curtain DOT COM <hes> if we're not excited about the steelers team coming up I mean what are we doing. Come on. This is what we live for this. We're super excited so I'M GONNA try to get through some of these questions. WE'RE GONNA GO Super Fast Real quick answer so that way I can say we you can answer as many as we could do. We think exam grumble will put up similar numbers to Jesse James if he gets the tight end to spot. No I agree. I don't think he'll put up quite those numbers but I do think that he could increase his numbers from from what he's done in the past. Why do you think the steelers struggle when they go out west to play same reason? It's just a big adjustment same reason why teams from the West come to the Shug when it comes to the east. It's just a big adjustment for their for their routine. Think ex exactly. It's not just the time change. It's the it's the the length of the trip which changes the whole routine. That's what I would say. What else do we want to say? We didn't get another super chat question. I was about ready to read this question before then. He asked the superjet from Anthony Johnson. What do we think of Terrell Edmonds going into a second year? I said he was a beast tech but he said he wasn't too hot last year. What do you think Tony? He didn't really <hes> term many heads last year but they did get a lot of experience. I mean he was thrown in there. When Morgan Burnett you know had had his injury problems so <hes> I'm I'm interested to see how that translates how experienced translates into a second year and if he can make that big first second year leap you're spot on I? I don't think he had a bad season. Last year. I mean I'm not saying he's going to become a troy Roy Paula Malu but he had a better rookie year Troy Paula Malu. You just can't expect too much of guys coming in their rookie year. I mean I still think Juju kind of messed with our heads a little bit. You don't get that production from a rookie like that all all the time so I wouldn't say that Edmonds had a bad year last year but what I want to see. Is that big second year jump. That's what you WANNA see from players. That's the difference between just a guy and a superstar is what what do they do from year one after they get that all all under their belt in all taken care of one kind of jumped today make in year two I like a lot of the stuff I saw tro edmonds man in his interception he was just rocketing north and south he wasn't cutting it aside or whatever I love going back and watching that man did he get up field. He fast when against Tampa Bay yes and that really surprised me how fast he showed up the field after that interception that really really really really impressive athleticism and what I liked is how wise that is. Don't worry about breaking it for the touchdown. Get your offense the best field position you can by getting there faster and man i. I just really liked that one okay. Let's see what else got here. We had another super chat from FELICIA. She wants to know Friday. Show which I think she's talking about. The steelers preview which we do Thursday night at ten comes out on as a podcast Friday morning. Is it going to be like draft day with us all getting together. It's GonNa be a little different because we still got people out on vacation. We Are we do definitely on the preview. We haven't asked him yeah but we're going to see if Tony could even jump in with that one since Brian finds to be out of town that to talk about what happened. I'll be honest with you. We're all excited. steelers are coming back for training camp but it's not going to be nearly as much to talk about as yes you would think <hes> we'll get some soundbites but that's about it. What do you think Tony? I mean as far as Thursday night. That's I could definitely do that but as far as anything exciting to talk about if there is it's probably it's probably going to be a for something bad so let's just I hope it's all about like their entrances in past years what they what they wore what they wrote in on that kind of thing exactly so yeah I mean we'll have some things like that to talk about but that brings up a very important thing behind the curtains camp confidential will be picking out a we'll be kicking off on Thursday that is something that Jeff is done now for five years since he's been the editor von Silk Curtain where he's just going to. It's I think of it as like an information. mation blitz. We're just going to give you an overload of stories all the information that you want packed into a thirty thirty six a forty eight to seventy two hour timeframe Raymond there were we're just GonNa get you a bunch of information so in the steelers report to camp and you're looking for and you WANNA get that steelers fix make sure you stop it behind the curtain dot com. We'll have lots of information lots of stuff for us all to look at and we should be good to go. We'll check in WANNA know. What about the special teams? What do they look like? What do they think about the place kicking? There's really nothing to answer there until they report to Camp Right Tony. Yeah I mean it's far. There's a place kicker. <hes> you know I think Boswell his struggles last year. We're all psychological after in his missing Cleveland in week one so if it heads right <hes> then I think he'll be okay if it's not if you know then then you're going to have a lot a lot to worry about. We won't know that until he actually picked kicked a real kick in week one exactly I mean even through the pre season. It's still season but I mean at least you're getting somebody rushing at you. That legitimately does want to want to block the ball so so that's that's one of those questions that you really need more time. In order to answer. I'm going to go ahead and just one more here and that is how much improvement contribution can we expect in the secondary with the additions of Nelson Jason and lane. Hey I'm the editor and chief verge host of the verge cast even revamping the more and more lately and coming out that it's twice a week sometimes even third bonus episode on Tuesdays and talked to influential people around the world of tech like Mike said Founder Bill Gates and other tech exactly like the founder of Lime Scooters The C._E._o.. 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The the glued to the secondary Kandar that Joe Haden was two years ago when he came over so somebody that could really shut down the other side not shut down like like a you know all time great corner but be a really good pro on the other side and then you had yourself the makings have very good secondary and who thought we would ever have said that a few years ago yeah I mean my expectations of Justin. Lane are zero I want. Let's see make the team. I'm okay if he doesn't even get a helmet. He's a rookie and you and the more you can have someone as a rookie not have to step in and do stuff. That's what I would like to see. I don't want them to have after call on him but if he just comes out and just tears up then you have to go out of your way to get them on the field. That's what you want with your rookies especially your non first round rookies. Is You want to say hey. Let's give them time to develop but yet they come out and play so well. You have no choice but to get on the field to make your team better. That's my expectation from Justin Lane. I expect nothing but if he just comes out and really shows up than that we get that now for Steven Nelson you've got to step up and you've got to be that other corner across Joe Hayden at the steelers have not had so. I looked for the secondary to be much improved. I'm going to do a little quick plug here I had done what it's funny was actually a series of articles but even even saying something to to Jeff Hartmann yesterday. He didn't realize it was exactly a series that I've been doing that. I have one more yet to come out that you come out before Thursday of talking about how two thousand nineteen we we're thinking. This is a different steelers feelers team to what we've seen in the past. We've lost drama. Hopefully we've lost the locker room locker room problems but how is that going to equate to a difference on the field so I've been talking about a very various different things that this could be a good change or a bad change on the field. I talked about the steelers going out West could see a difference and could circumstances up with that. I talked about the steelers success in prime time and how that should not be considered a guarantee this year because right now the only three games the steelers are not favored to win and when looking at the Vegas odds right now are there three away games in primetime so that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be some success but one of the things that are the most recent article that I did was can the defense venzke. Those late game stops that steeler fans seem to say that they never can get well. I laid it out that it's not as bad as what you think they get them. Censoring cheers was hurt. They got about half the time in two thousand seventeen until she got hurt. They got him in every game that there was a chance I was looking at the last five minutes of the game the steelers either tied or leading by by one score or less. Did they get did the defense make that stop. I think the the biggest improvements that I had to come down to speed of your linebackers which we added with Baron and Bush and an and a better secondary which I felt that they added with Nelson and lane so that right right there we go. That's what people were asking about the live chat and that's kind of what it came down to so I do have one more those coming out. If you're wondering what it's going to be it's going to be <hes> steelers losing games that everyone feels that they should win. We'll address. I'll address that one this week so so if you're curious about that checkout on the curtain this week for that one coming out so Tony we've Kinda gone a little bit longer than normal on the hangover but that's what happens when we open it up to questions anything else you WANNA say here before we sign off fun experience doing the doing the <hes> hangover as a video podcast and and and I it was a lot of fun I really enjoyed the questions from the live chat and I look forward to doing that moving forward so <hes> here we are three days away in the off season. The fish is the fish officially over then and what season it was right exactly you yes it was off season. I'm ready for it to be over. I really am a don't WanNa think about those lows anymore. I think what's Nice. Is You and Brian next week. You're going to have to be hung over about the Star Training Camp Yeah. You'RE GONNA have to talk about how that's what you're hung over about as much just I'm hoping you don't have anything to talk about being hung over. I'm really glad that that's the show you guys get to do. Because that means it's finally here and we have steelers actually building stuff towards two thousand nine hundred and season so with that said I can't remember exactly Brian sign off so I'm going to do my best to do something similar and completely screwed up because I'm really good at that so I'm going to say four Dave Scofield and for Tony Nephew and from behind the steel curtain curtain. Thanks for joining us. You have just been hungover tonight. Hey it's medically the host of the eater upsell before you jump to your next podcast. I want to tell you about a new event. That's happening layer the summer Amer in Brooklyn. It's called Eater Youngun summit and it's a one day celebration of up and coming talent in the world of food. 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Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 332-Jay's 6-Pack

"Up coast near the pied being polled were not the jesse james e britain yankee craft beer palled wait a minute i'll start again career podcast pub studios and we have a collection so you can reach us at pints the britain yankee you can get us on facebook and of course all right so i don't know why people say that in my co host when us noches know chaz cool j's six pack now it's not jay's crisps and a good app so well they say like a six pack and i don't which you know i've got a i've got an eight pack but then again you know it gets bigger as you get older right amount jay thank you so much for coming down and beer back and i came back from my last trip and i had a bunch of october fast and awesome beers from out of state that you can't get here absolutely we like doing that there's one other so these are all from i shouldn't say all of most of them from florida been trying to get him for a while is john bidermann's brewery on a friend i remember that was a while ago beer yeah that's 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cool and of course we have our usual them with some of abba's later on right j.'s six pack the first time i went to this brewery was a gone through before this was my opinion we thought well it's a brew pub they compromise the beer because they have food and i was like man this pardon my french shit was really good their beer was delicious we're just one of the girls and she had nothing but good things to say about the owners and and then i said you don't want to bring one of those beers back and so that's so is it in the same area you know 'cause we we did a show with some copper point his i've not been to that one but do we know where capital is tampa tampa okay okay so tampa bay a very nice area fan i israel close cool bridge that goes across tampa bay the sunshine bridge yeah burgers down there a lot of good ones too so enough of the tolkien let's crack corruption of the aroma in colorado everything well definitely has your typical it's not easy but a little can't really see through a completely but i also don't first wife but oh ding dong amar's style because as we found out financing thing there kind found out there's two different types you go to fast which has done little lighter and ask from church street so a little bit deeper on not somebody can reach in and ding anytime you've got some things going on besides allusive here so i paired up with the handful guys has is everyone knows gave itself i'm might not be some time after that but my partners matt luke used us they said they needed a beer guy mansa chef has a brother anyone who knows me knows my ultimate plan was to move down to florida or and then we will have an announcement on our brewer probably next week or when you hear this might have already rations and then we definitely want the erkki out there oh who'll style beer is what i'm really into lately difficult is not right yeah yeah so what do you think of this one character the callers great it looks beautiful that it's delicious very easy drinking yeah very easy drinking yeah and for me it's something that i look at especially when you go to an october fest event actually isn't it's actually pretty good and again i don't like this style apparently comfortable is a sea monster that lives in tampa bay and they know they said that's a perfect name for the berry now if you they'll be this one is an octopus with a with a moustache and he's and then there's lots of other cool stuff on it and i think that they have somebody let me see if i can find out some information about who owns this place getting to drink and all the time he's a big guy he's just knocked over because there's glass the brew master and he's been the head brewer at flying i'm and he's now moved down to florida and he's doing this stuff i know they have several find out what the address is oh here we go i got on the ken thank hello chris finish prosper well i would agree with that definitely florida career for like an hour forty five minutes do make some pocock down well then let's move on to number two by the way we play music that jay really liked so just tell everybody it was abandoned to light i really like everything but like heavy serve rock out with my socks on and dawn what's the beatles to fill you might go back to late frank sinatra knowing that it's a picture of her and paul mccartney's doing some march even though i like heavy metal if i got to meet paul mccartney there would be like head all right and about this one when he saw it being whipped out of his container over there you brought like eight or nine beers before we get out about this is from america's ars in style so tell us why you picked this one way you picked it up i've been a fan of ling you know since years backed you guys so i'm sure it won't be disappointed but i wanna make sure i'm not crack open the other one after donna's finished photographing it to make sure he remembers immortal good man so this they say a classic beautiful copper color but it seems a little thinner than the heavy do you sniff okay do you look at the color i i'm getting really oh go ahead as much as roma's at first out of it so very brilliant like it's completely hey from pottsville pennsylvania but they've been going for a while right eighteen twenty something i have no flavor wise i get i get more of a caramel character more of a american ours yeah man at the end is a real sweet it's cold what direction do you think they should i it's exactly n. as some of the other craft act i mean we've tasted a lot of october fuss lately the first one on that october fest show remember that yep every beer we tasted i think the color on this beer is phenomenal it's a bomb attacks on the bar because it just makes it a little softer for putting down i'm putting on brown you've got some other ones a red so it gives it a bit of a false color got me copper and so these guys have been around it took me a long time to learn how to pronounce this because it's felt why you e. n. came from a thirteen berg avert timberg w. but now can you assane that they one of the biggest independent because oh with the merger with doc fish they never do when you merge does it become a macro brewery and where does the rules lie to say edberg the the burs association definition used exclude adjunct you know some of those other older breweries are now considered craft breweries they merged with dogfish and i don't know if that's enough though dogfish wasn't i can tell you in two thousand fifteen ying-ling taught the brewers association the evening you can get an indiana now he'll be pretty soon yeah by by sales volume inkling has boston beer they're doing autres working at the brewery about that nice yeah so now i'm not doing if a listen to the show we usually do thumbs up doing that because we've got beers i think people are gonna you know we got a lot of october fast to choose i would go with the first one because it had more body that said this front no i think i agree with the first one i think is preferable oh now has an ability that you can turn off them tracking you the accuses me of doing something where i wasn't then i got them to fall back on that's not and this comes from a location in florida cool brayden if an hour forty five minutes from tampa and this is from a brewery cooled motta works brewing little twelve ounce can with a really cool about half lena's now where does heavily come in tell af had something to do with coffee a now off mike remember that tom get get with i do i do that thank you so what you pumpkins out because they come and eat right okay back to bradenton florida thank you out of this thing is definitely think supposed to be a fist version NJIT yes and these guys have been around back so originally i was saying i don't think i was at this bar but i was a year or so binning they're disturbed very similar and i was talking to try and like the previous two we had drank i have not tried this one yet site because it's like gold on as well and it's got the bavarian flag in the and you know you can get a little combination on that beautiful head i just can't figure out what it smells like a little lighter in color yes right oh okay again you're not gonna change my opinion on october yeah sweet right not sweet and it hits you right off the talk write the initial difference you know because he was sweet it's oy because as i look at the notes from this complemented by a spicy hawk character that bounces base and dries raden tunes difficult thing to say bradenton bradenton read shida and they they twenty seven thousand square for building which is quite big rarely it was cool so apparently frank has a law and i'm wondering does anybody know hudson mood ornament but like maybe that's what that is in which is amazing in itself isn't a in florida 'cause i didn't i didn't think florida was that's that's confirmed that's the hudson hood ornament it is CBS championships thirty barrow beer house and this guy is in full out these big ask people into for like you know the snowbirds and things like that or is it like spring i don't agree with that i love florida but i went to die but god tomorrow it's more of a less more of an area to go even sarasota clearwater is just impossible that bunch young loveless right and how to all my lovely somebody bradenton taking awhile motor works a little bit different i think it's diverted a little bit from and they do say they do say marzan style lager i think i think this is more festive talk shows through which that's not a bad it's cocky head and go what the hell happened just this repub which means that you're gonna have food right oh yeah your beer dinners there with local breweries pollyanna buckled down in his food the breakfast food is you know wean brewer we have which will be announced as a solid guy failure is not an option yeah that's what a lot of people when they go into this fight i have token with the alex draft from DNC and we we have to do is brewed beer and cool and chill out and drink it well wait a minute paying people you know there's the admin side of that nobody wants to do and speaking of peaches and cream an expert doesn't have those because he hasn't found out what it is yet but we will in just a second mm-hmm at number four and this one is going to stretch my tasting capabilities because is a pumpkin beer however it's not just any pump can be it is a chocolate dressing because ken has just released his high buna the north and it's in georgia georgia joe alexa no mexico new mexico all right okay you've been there then and as i say is a chocolate pumpkin porter j tell us the story behind this plug for a college do page in the business of craft beer through and when i was traveling you know message just about anyone that i think is has to go on a gate city and i don't know how this beer is because i haven't had it yet but and i said you know bring a couple of them back and we'll give it a try when we get back to illinois CBS so these are a couple in school some from CODEC message me he lived or his girlfriend's from atlanta to confirm it's good or bad but what okay it's not the typical com gin you know open it look there's a i think i read vanilla a little bit of i like it it's okay but it feels like there needs to be more there it's a little more mouth you'll little more by you would probably help this quite a bit the tastes art okay go around the store to dawn in other ways they're not sure it's the in the i've seen a good point i don't get chocolate and all but i don't either cinema it's not too bad cinnamon beers don't earn my front that was all in the beginning i want i want to tell you the you know the a cinnamon balloons so when you put it in stuff it gets stronger and stronger and stronger take thank it kind of a bitter character witness it is it's seven i have to tell you when i looked at the kennett says gord vibrations but good vibrations but that's still trying to say good now feels an another one oh my god you know it's it's a me is yes oh shit everybody knows what it means weiss i smoked pumpkins yep how'd you get very careful made a puree i can't what else did i put in there i aw so one of them i did with no spice and the other one i made my own pumpkin spice blend honest with us one the better to is the spice one it's more rounded but this this batch is it's a pretty uh-huh video for it but the smoked on the spice one because again it's got spices in it and i just don't think i'm i'm only having one sample of this oh yeah it's really subtle in there but it didn't that it okay let's get changed a little bit of the sweetness is coming through and kind of balancing derives its name from atlanta georgia's nickname the gate city as early after the port in savannah south and ultimately west there we go so that but okay there we go no little green men running around there and it i five thousand square feet we're gonna have seating okay all right well this one i think into some home areas i well everybody knows the next brewery taken up it this is the penultimate beer i guess comes from a wonderful talk about october fest of course took about germany and that's about the closest we're gonna get to the brewery j now piss water hey we're gonna say new glarus where this comes from i thought you wanted this is stack on which is their tober fest beer and us employee owned what does anybody know about new glaris coolest staff about yeah and it's owned apparently she's an awesome person that's what i hear and phil sixteenth what sixteenth largest while he is in the normal run right so everybody says oh what's that's on squirrel exceptional but when you come to their fruited sour series things sorry i've never had any saoirse from our so this one has poured out again quite nice they alcan's wisconsin okay and then i got back from florida a opening close my buddies cabin in rhinelander and i figured bring it back because i think it's pretty darn good but new glares in writing about on the map of wisconsin it's got a thumbprint so us oh right okay cool well glad you knew that he thought it meant that right what do we think about this october fest beer because according ops and it makes the staghorn but i'm stuck on the most world's most expensive hopson like i don't taste mosaic nisa so they're trying to do everything right it's you you know like all the way through it it's very yeah but it doesn't have that nutty finish the i look for uh cord vines so you communiqu mall the mall that's just you just get that same doesn't see but might not be as that's true week there they they they made a different martin was the old style well that's right all-star right i don't know if this chest but it's not quite the bill that believe it or not i when i grew up with stroz throws in also drunk it but then i found other beer somewhere in the britain yankee fridge is found the best october fest i guess question one is more one drink during the day in the copper tail will be one hour drinking uh-huh respect because i won't i don't wanna have a crappy beer if i've just been gotten i know i can great yeah okay so knbr foods that they have suggested pairing this beer with on their website what crowded there you go okay back back to fermented foods swedish meatballs k. a. friday fish fry now that's that's the milk semi soft washed rind saxon creamery chips always all right good man anybody else it's skate which is very unusual for fish and chips at least unless they've changed it it's kinda like a nonstopping stingray it's very popular in the winter so okay so we've had five and a b as we are gonna is so we'll find out what that is in just a second ah wow did i get a ceiling cliff aw nobody's split there is it saves louis vindicated saying we were talking what was it us l. works whereas penelas air works jay because you found out all the best pretzels in the entire world yes they are bottom brat for like chicken or fish or something like that haven't found it yet but when i do my this hardware some of them having your kid now the the whiny bitch oh thank are there that he was gonna i love this doc in southern pinellas county and that's where this brewery is panella eight hundred eighty eight i'm going to open this tell us more about pinellas iowa's or pau roughly two years two and a half years ago three years ago i can't remember i happen to be aw and i didn't know if i had the job or not yet but i had a six pack of their gold as a week later i got a call from paul he want to hire you i'm like i'm in area where did the name milk money come from i've been wondering that for the last fifty minutes i'm literally new into the process it's a neat name nobody else had it i don't know the exact asia so we'll be able to show everybody it's got that old pitcher this he looks like he's sixty six this is this is just one of our yeah i actually i came late to the show as far as knowing all the a couple of other guys we finally are making it happen well this one percent so we got something boozy going on which is good for russian payroll style i've used i did i went wow that's like motor oil i can't see through scratch can you have we could we thank you wissel hop whistle hall that whistle hot by the way is one of the best breweries anyways see box train go yet eighteen eighty eight the head hasn't really stayed around too much on mine i think that's because uh-huh anybody because they've all got their noses inside their snifters really okay oh man i'm looking forward to right so who's tasted fire exchanging glances in passing a good oxidation which usually imperial stout take it and run with it well yeah there's golf but again i have read the description they have on here i get better yeah and roshan it brewed there's no date on it and when i bought it at not get to speak the decca man yes the krankl black oh you know dark grains aged you know chocolate beer in those flavors can cover up stuff so tell me what i'm looking for with it wasn't a good getting wick there's discussion that until you're you know very well what you're doing you stay away from black and again it's a little bit different now that it's warming up a little bit but ed is the law roasted malt i'm getting a little peachy so before i don't either it's just it's something something in there i can't place donahue much your favorite you know i'm not a real big russian it and i'm the exact opposite i'm the guy that in the middle of july autograph new best friend i love doing that as well yeah and those balls actually you mentioned that i actually have and i have this ah i love the dark bears no summer too i mean i like all the beers but i agree a good become closer friends so i can possibly hang out one more so out the milk bone style yes so that's one twenty seventeen old and two thousand eighteen silver medal winner and they're schwab's hound obviously they know out group and sounds like they're ah the just last year doubled capacity i wanna say like probably thirty fifty not huge but it's definitely doc abreu or a beer nerd hang out then it but it's laid back relaxing place i think it's a pretty cool place to i i'm gonna different i love this i don't find any let's we're going to have a bonus here round the bar and find out what people's favourite beer of the evening link and because i'm really not the first couple the second let's go to tom sill the copper tailgate i'm i said this earlier i'm not a huge october fest guy cinnamon beer i don't i'm not a big fan of pumpkin beers but i with notes of pumpkins singer is okay with that one ken i think body then like super easy drinking beers but my favorite was the first one which was a man of honor i'm with cannon about mantovani but guest i've had a ton of new glamorous it's not that they don't like it but it's probably because i had so much of it agree the corporate ceo which also had the copper point yeah it's a good beer but i also go with this eighteen now account compared eighteen s and this is everything i want in a sipah this is my this is my cigar you're saying what you're saying we were talking about a little cardboard taste so oh endures as i'm not getting that much of that it's just this really bitter is that maybe i like i would like it to be smoother agreed hit this on the side of the glass and this sucker hangs aside it is very in play together that's overwhelmingly bitter so i'm waiting to warm up we'll see we'll see changes but i i really really wanna like this fear this beer whilst we clang act losses and say good night owner spears apparently got bigger over the affair discussion that whiskey hill gave me this for us did well okay full transparency then let's hover bike we tell you quite they call their berlin of ice style pink oh hang on aubrey rasberry anything else did they miss anything in that every doc i'm who the ish smoothie right so tell it's a little sweet but it's it's definitely not really was at southern grist nashville the craft brewers conference god this is just like that but it has so much of those other flavors in your whole life you don't know who to talk to a really particular tastes to stand out but if you think about it you can find a lot of different specific rioters of it the one they got on tap at the moment is being moso which is orange i can't remember off top my head it's i have any time yeah brennan the opposite of fricken russian what for this as the french golden lions because we had that we had lions matt thank you very much for sending it over this if you're gonna call it a bill in a vice it's five points this version if you will i'm not seeing my adding more to my glossier let's see who brought it oh i think it was tom we'll go to that and now or next beer it was in it was in the fridge and but yet another crowd so i'm going to god i can't get this is mike and this was a thank you children's school which is saint joseph's school in downers grove so booster fundraiser i can oak was one of the sponsors and they happen to sponsor one of the things that when my wife and i should up there early for his words for the craft brew aficionados so it okay so would you bring not bad not bad very good didn't necessarily want an idea that night and he and we had a glass and i had to be fair there is we are there for dinner last night my wife had a glass of it there i figured only cinnamon but i do taste pumpkin better than that i feel that we jeff clove it's not bad but for me the clovers gno the spice milestone you know what i was expecting a rash bear for some reason ooh this is this is heavy pumpkin spice and i believe me i love their ears bird is fantastic supernatural is what i don't like about spice peers which is really interesting because after three sets it go kind of as added to the you know the pumpkin spice is i'd like to know whether they used the pumpkin spice is what you buy if you don't know how to make exactly it i do get a lot of clove i'm okay so i think that's the um i do as much as a little warmer which is is talked quite a deep freeze home is not showing your bid to the best one there that i really hate this bill yet which i have to say i don't first pumpkin one oh yeah absolutely hundred percent but you know so something that has like you know pumpkin stuffed pastor doesn't to me it doesn't linger in a bad way if the reagans here that's like tea and passion fruit right but it's i'm not gonna discuss one completely it's actually one of the ones that i yes because i was expecting something very different different story if it was the first year taste yeah i think i would think i would have the same opinion because it's definitely a different flavor selling is selling well i it's when we had it on saturday it had turn isn't that the character in tonight no and i'm going to reach into the fridge to get this one out and thank you can bring in and the the howler fell on the driveway and rolled what is the name of beer and how did you get that name just curious ah he's not a liberty to say aside so tell us about this can because it's been around a while it took months and when from and put it on some toasted oak and aged for a few more months thanks so let let's ask let's ask the paneled i don't i don't dislike it i'm about an i kinda like it i would definitely here's and i and i am i am had some talk beers in my lifetime it's not really sour it's a little bit you said that i love alleles and i get it it it's it's really good but i don't know why k for me that's the was gonna put it is a beer i would describe as a party in your mouth and everybody's gonna come that's like oh i get at least me i don't get this and i don't get that it's like fire not at all this is really really good dawn ever of guests yeah it does not taste like that doesn't have now i would i would say it's kinda like chile you know the day you make chili it's good gather to become something else that's

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Steelers Hangover: Confidence levels and expectations for the 2019 Pittsburgh Steelers

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Steelers Hangover: Confidence levels and expectations for the 2019 Pittsburgh Steelers

"La radio. I'm in fearful life long the. Go before we sleep. Oh, man. To run and I'm so not go gently. We won't only show here and do something. Behind the curtain Steeler nation. Everybody else that is actually listening to this little my friends. It's. Justin Timberlake would say it's gonna be may. And it is made minicamp is right around the quarter. And this is the Steelers hangover now, look, what do we do we hung over about? Nothing much has been going on feeler nation except for one great thing that happened on Friday. And that's a good reason to have a happy hangover. And we'll talk about that in just a moment. But before that, let's talk or very good friend. I like to call the marathon man somebody that inspires me daily. Just knowing him. Even though we never shook hands and met in person. I consider him one of my closest friends gentlemen, Mr. Anthony deaf. Yo. Brian. Those are really kind words I think much good for me. But but I think if that and we are going to rectify that not shitting Hanson. We're definitely gonna get together for something training camp pirates game you name it. I'm looking forward to it. You know, what I think we just do it, right? And just Steeler game. I mean, I want to pirates game too. Don't get me wrong Steeler game have have the hangover in the parking lot. After the game. That'd be fantastic. Either that or here's here's my other congestion. And I know we're making plans here. But we've got what state do we have a bunch of fans of the fans of a hangover. Is it? My right eye for you got the New Jersey can't New Jersey a couple of other people from New Jersey is that the hand veto. Right. Yeah. And then then we've got we've got we haven't heard from him in a while breaks from Brooklyn is a hangover fan. And so that's yet game. I know it's really close to Christmas. But Kate would be a lot. Sure, would it. Sure. Would. And it'd be buddy to a great podcast afterwards, depending on what? Number twenty six does away. Exactly. So I mean, my guest is here's my bet that he doesn't even play in that game. I mean, he'll be shutdown just cause of injury. I just for. So you know, what I hope not I hope he doesn't because after the he who sell remain nameless after he passed that title onto a number another big chested guy. I know pro I can say his name again, I could say love bells name again, and I'm not even mad at him anymore. And maybe it's because he got trumped. But maybe it's just a maybe Trump's not the right word to use because can't use that as an adjective anymore because it means a completely different thing. But maybe it's because big chest bested him in in lunacy. Or maybe it's the fact that he had kind words to say that about James. Honor. And he's doing the opposite of NBC there. I just don't. And maybe it's the fact that you didn't get the contract that he wanted even though he got paid. I kinda don't hate that guy more. But that's. That's my personal opinion. I'm sure others vary. But when it comes to big chest. Yeah. Not a fan. But with that being said, we've got a whole show to talk about. We've gotta talk about happy things the Steelers and the happiest thing that happened in skewer nation in a long long time was matrimony. It was a winning and a lot of his teammates were there to witness. Mr Ryan says they're not only be joined in wedded bliss with his wife but dance at his own wedding. And I gotta tell you this isn't a sports fan, but as a human being, and I just think it's it's just absolutely they up youthful thing. And I just say their hand. Just a little over a month ago. And you know, told them what kind of inspiration. He was when I took him my nephew and autograph show. And I'm sure a lot of people said the same things just a gracious guy. The second time I I had an opportunity to shake his hand. And you know, when you just put football aside, and what that guy. Has battled income back from and persevered from. It's just amazing. And I don't think we would have ever guessed that Tony on December fourth, and that was one of the worst sporting nights of my life, and I shared it with you, and you and I were practically in tears because we knew what had happened on December four two thousand seventeen. December fourth of two thousand seventeen and that was the Monday night came. So we were we were on until about one o'clock in the morning. And we were absolutely devastated and to say that the man was dancing at his wedding. And that's what we said, we just hope that he can be able to play with his kids and to have a quality life. And you know, what I'm. I'm not one to put caps on this guy anymore. I mean, do I believe in my mind that he's ever gonna play? Again. I think it's doubtful. But in my heart of hearts, I'm like this guy is in stopping and at this point. You never know. The odds are stacked, but you never know to watch video of him dancing his wedding. I I just thought it was beautiful. I totally agree and show you what kind of great guy. He is a great teammate. I mean who was there yet Arthur moats, Mike Mitchell Jesse James came back? They were all there celebrate day with him. And and and you know, the progress that he's made I mean. You came walking out you needed assistance needed. A cane fiance was with and helping them as soon to be bride helping them out there, and the the progress you made from then just to now to be able to do box jumps and tencent as wedding. I mean, it's just a just a great story. And it's it's it's so much better than than than. Than many even thought possible the days after that tragic night and on December fourth two thousand seventeen so yeah, just have you. It's great to see the the progress made. Have you ever done a box jump? Well, yeah. At the gym. But nothing like like like I saw even writing says here do after suffering a spinal injury, which like you said, I it's amazing the progress in and I wouldn't doubt him at this point. But yeah, I've done a boxer. But not like even what he's done after after the injury had. So it's it's a pretty phenomenal. Did. I'm sorry. I just did my first bach- jump probably a couple of weeks ago. And it wasn't. I think it might have been a free quarter of a box since I'm new to it. And I'm overweight, and I did it. And it wasn't a for probably wasn't the height of what Chaisiri did. And just I mean, that's just amazing thing too. So God bless that. Man. I I hope he just keeps going. And that has nothing to do with football. I just hope he just keeps on going, and he's just an absolute inspiration to me. So that was the good news in Steeler Mason. But besides that it was a pretty slow week because midday campus started for other teams, it does not happen until may tenth. So Friday minicamp starts, which means that my article about Steelers numbers possible numbers. We'll see how many I got right? Got to write last year. I'm thinking, the Tony I go tell you. I'm I'm calling my shot. I'm doing to stay that. I'm gonna get five of nine right? I'm gonna go higher. I'm gonna see six. And we already know that I've got pretty much have to correct. So that we're because we know we know what Devin Bush is gonna wear we know he's gonna wear fifty five. But and I already ordered my fifty five jersey. But I tell you that. But I guess that the four they announced it, and I guess it for two reasons because I knew they wouldn't give them fifty and yeah doesn't have a number. He the left linebacker to wear number. Ten was in the seventies. Brad van pelt of the New York Giants actually were ten back in the late seventies early eighties. Remember, Brad van pelt? If you if you remember. Yeah. I don't really wouldn't have been ten though. So. But you know, I've so I knew that without and like I said, you know, he's not gonna get fifty because fifties actually is technically still occupied because that players on the pup list and forty is unlikely. So I was thinking, you know, what double numbers are double digits or more epic. And then I was thinking about his godfather Derrick Brooks four fifty five. So that's why guests that. So I will take credit for it. Even though it the news came out after before I wrote the article, but I've I won't take credit and Benny snow juniors not hard to figure out being twenty six being the fact of the war that in college. And he he already was holding up a twenty six years. So you know, he's gonna request it. And like I love the confidence of that guy. Not being excuse me, not being afraid to where that you're the. But the reason I'm bringing up all these things there are great expectations for every NFL team right now, there's also confidence levels if you're an Arizona karnal saying you have confidence that it's going to be a new day and get the exciting. But you don't have probably don't have a high confidence win totals right now. If you're the Cincinnati Bengals bagels fan you have blind confidence 'cause you're just clueless. And I'm actually I I'll probably take some heat from that. But it's it's just the awful truth of that. But if you're a Cleveland Brown fan, the confidence levels, really high, in fact. They're they're thinking big things. And you know, you can't really blame that for the Baltimore Ravens fans. Probably wanna I mean, the conference levels are probably next because believe it or not. Let me ask you this. Tony, and we can even make this factor fiction 'cause we do factor fix on the show. Baltimore Ravens fans are pessimistic. Is that factor fiction, and this could go either way. I'd say you mean as far as the twenty nineteen season. No. Especially I really I say section. They seem they seem pretty confident. Usually they always in coughing. They can beat the Steelers. So I'm gonna go with fiction on that when they've had some success and over the last couple of decades. So yeah, I'd say they're pretty confident bunch. I kinda find them pessimistic. Okay. Kid well being living in I live in Maryland, as you know with same with two other staff members are editor Jeff Hartmann lives in the state of Maryland. And so they feel feel and in fact, we actually live in the same town. I'm not gonna mention the the town's name. But. That's how we all know each other and we met at various times. But we've it's really funny. Baltimore fans around here. I mean, it might be a little bit better right in Baltimore. But even so it seems that unless they got a team that's cruising and going twelve and four they don't they're not very confident. They're always seemed to be like waiting for the other shooter drop of that that makes chance it's I if that makes sense even after they won the Super Bowl. I think they're actually were pessimistic than some Steeler fans to. Every time I talked to one I'm like, you're gonna have a good team mature, and they tell me so many reasons why they're gonna suck and these are season ticket holders. So I it's really funny, but I find to be a pessimistic ons. Then I I actually find them to be fair weather bunch to they go to the stadium so much more when the teams winning, but when they're losing their inflict, they're dead to us. So, but that's just my perception. So I've already I've already just -pletely denigrated to fan bases. So I mean. So I'm just gonna stop with that. But what I'm trying to get to Tony is conference levels are mixed in Pittsburgh right now because of because of the subtraction of two players, and we've talked about this. And you know, technically, it's really the subtraction of one player because one player didn't play last year. But I keep hearing how you've got to replace fifteen touchdowns. And how are you gonna do that with a the the HR and what we've seen guys leave before? Do you? Remember? After the nineteen ninety four season. You lose Barry Foster. And you're like, all right. There's no way no way they're going to replace that guy's production. So they did it with guys wants the Super Bowl. Now, they got this any arts and went to the Super Bowl. So you know, anything is anything's possible. Flexible Burress leaves after the four season no way, they're going to be able to replace his production. So they go ahead. And they they bring in. You know, I'm having. I think I'm starting to lose my mind Centric Wilson there. It is. I just lost. So they bring in Cedric Wilson. How're you going to replace Golic? Lexical burst was your Wilson. Well, replace them with the Lombardi trophy 'cause. Yeah. Yeah. He caught that big pass against Cincinnati. But the trick play in that game. They were losing at one point in the in the wildcard he was he didn't have blockbuster numbers. But the played a team Ben Rothlisberger made it clear a few weeks ago when he said we play for each other. And we're going to play for each other. And I love that because it kind of goes back to he hasn't borrowed it from himself yet. But it kind of seems like remember when he was calling them a band of brothers back in two thousand eight. Yeah. That was as locker room speech. Yeah. He was his way of uniting the team. I think they're even more of one. So my question to you, Tony, and I don't me out with this. What do you think in you live live in the city? So you live in that area. 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