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"jesse david fox" Discussed on Keith and the Girl Comedy Talk Show

Keith and the Girl Comedy Talk Show

13:24 min | 2 months ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on Keith and the Girl Comedy Talk Show

"Just stop and there's also oddly been bragging about not showering during. That's interesting like Oh yeah you taking a shower taking the show? He's like just out like honestly neither one of us has wrote a guard. Why don't you? Why don't you just take a regular shower and I have an idea for what we can do instead of cards. Are you into an only get? It sounds fun. He goes look me in the face. Do not go in there and now may card. We are agreeing. I am being serious. We are not making cards and as you say I didn't because he had this idea that we make a car together and we talk about our year like you know and then We forgot to do that because we were doing stuff. Mind Your Business Okay. I'll see you had sex my business. Okay good for you each other. Nice things yeah. This is so fucking stressful. Right this torture. It'd be torture and around holidays. That would be the war I would I would do what could I guess? Are the soup kitchen. Needs help? Like on canvas holidays. Well maybe that's why he's my partner Boyfriend La. I guess I saw a One of those automatic ads on on twitter in his from corona the beer. The joke and it says this year has checked. Cinco at home. So you'll celebrate. Cinco the mile in Your House. Remember when is drink responsibly? Now by yourself. Who gives a fuck yet truly at the literally the one definition of alcoholism we all know? It's like drag campaign. Do your best to get by Budweiser. Whatever it takes the wine council you honey. We don't give a fuck. I don't even know how we're still in business drinker wherever parking lot your house loan room. I don't care but you know how Like now because gluten. Free and veganism is is like popular so things that have never had gluten or dairy or in the family of it will say gluten free on the box so corona has to save virus. Free on every beer ad right. Well I have seen. Maybe you've seen pictures like a beard distributing places where they sell it by the giant case and krone is always the only one left there and I get it. But why bother? Yeah I'm like I know it's different minimum. It's going to remind you every single SIP. Yeah Yeah you're drinking specifically not to remember what's happening the idea that you'd be like you'd be looking you'd have to remove all the labels right every scipio but like still not the disease like there's still something always there whether you're Vian funnier. Just trying to drink it. I think they should. They should change their name to coronel. Slow throw little mail verbiage or whatever I wa is a state in America that never closed down now leads growing Cova nineteen cases in the US. You took it from New York. Good bye oh sorry. That's not the right response. I'm sorry Kinda right now. That's not good. Did you see that. The vice president pence went to a mayoclinic went to a hospital and he was the only one not wearing a mess. Why why would you why I mean he said what? There's a reason for everything right so you have to assume. The reason is to help people say yes. Let's reopen America. You can't tell us to reopen but have a have a mask gone. Oh yeah he's totally a war hero now fascinated vice president of the United States on tested for the corona virus on a regular basis daily and so what untested on regular basis? And everyone? Who was around me is tested for the corona virus? While the rest of. I can't do that but let's go back to work shall we? And since I don't have the krona virus I thought it'd be a good opportunity for me to be here to be. What's I thought it'd be a good opportunity to get it right. I don't have a good chance for me to get it to go to a hospital where people have it. It's a good opportunity for me to be here to be able to speak to these researchers who all think they should wear masks. These incredible healthcare personnel in. Look them in the eye and say thank you he added. I don't know if this is another important person that doesn't know how to put a mask on but the don't get your is still be able to take it in the understand. How are you taking up their break so you could look them in the eye? They haven't slept in days. Go home and they knows it's a thing because he he does the stupid elbow. Bump to one of the doctors never mind. You have to get close to do that but also what are you thanking them for for nothing going on and everything's normal cuts since when do vice president's visit hospitals just to thank doctors. Should you have done that when you went to the doctor? So you're taking a special trip to go to places where people are dying frequently to make them feel good by looking in their eyes. Are you going to call them a partner or boyfriend bitch? Thank he's thanking them for meaning. Well liked it says delusional but I. It's the whole world's clapping at seven o'clock. I can show up at two PM. Them Conference call. Give you then. You're by the way they have the time. Their cats in the other room definitely conference call them. You do pots and pans at seven o'clock. No because I don't face the street. I think the first time I was like what the hell but now it feels like. I'm patronizing if I'm getting my. Oh Do I do. Sometimes my cat wakes up and I think she thinks the collapse are for her and a migrate. Would've she will fuck it. That's a good environment home. You know whatever it takes. I masturbated six fifty eight and then seven o'clock the whole world's cheering for Macau tanks. Guys pence was the only individual spotted without a mass during his visit to the Mayo Clinic where he participated in a tour. Here's another room. Thank you and held a roundtable roundtable's with physicians nurses say I'm a jokester with a cosmonaut. This is what they gotta do. I got to be part of the roundtable. It's GonNa Piss everyone off. Everyone else. Seen on camera with pence has masks on the Mayo Clinic issued guidelines on April thirteenth requiring all patients and visitors to wear face covering or mask and accordance with updated recommendations from the CDC in fact the male clinic put out a statement saying we told him ahead of time to wear masks then took the tweets down like he'd he they were obviously asked to take the tweet down for what to keep funding going. Maybe who knows? Are there people? I'm trying to imagine the people who saw this news. And we're like wow. Our Vice. President is so brave and strong. Like what is is that what people are seeing where where like this. The true arrogant the most arrogant version of being dumb and the other people. Look how brave. He's big yes. There are people on the streets praising trump for every move that he's making. Where are they getting their information from? It's just you know he's he's telling people what to believe in what not to believe in everyday changes and people somehow follow along in our like. Yeah that's the right answer right now. I mean we've we've read it on the show. The the the stuff that he was saying that the dates that he was saying it's a hoax. It's not real. We have it under control. What do we have under control? Nothing because nothing's happening. It's just it's like you know from the terrible terrible books that we've read and now it's real so we'll be we'll be okay by eastern said I would be. I would be okay by Easter and I'm like wait a minute motherfucker. I didn't miss a meeting. You just said yesterday. No this is serious business. Oh You motherfucker. And the and the the best part is we are in such a technological universe literally. Everything's being recorded. He's writing down on the shooter and sending it out to us and then going literally the next day going J. K. Ya Right A hi. I'M THE PRESIDENT THIS IS I. I'm at hello assisting on just wanted to say from yesterday's briefing a JK right digest bleach. What you told me too. Yeah he's doing air quotes under the table. Gosh much rink. Bleach scientists that comedian. I decided to be President Mayor. Bill de Blasio here. In New York City oversaw the dispersal of large tightly packed Hassidic Jewish funeral and lash out on social media my message to the Jewish community in all communities. Is this simple? The for warnings has passed. Something absolutely unacceptable happened in Williamsburg tonight a large funeral gathering in the middle of this pandemic. What I saw will not be tolerated as long as we're finding the KRONA VIRUS. And then they said. Do you remember how many of us there are? You need our votes and he said let me look more into it. Everybody has their culture. The there are so many has acidic Jewish vote in New York. City is so important that they didn't stop these rabbis yet from sucking off little boys that they call a circumcision. We can't stop that because that'll affect votes on. If you become the mayor governor not there suck it off little boy. They don't know where Catholics. Get the the little blood dropper from. They don't know how to do that. The rabbis gotTA use his tongue and stuff and then you tell them on top of it and the pun about tip but the punt. That's how I do my jokes. There's a point in their quite obviously and it's not hard to figure out. Then you feel like you put the show together with me. That's how we're interactive go tip tip figured out okay. You did that on your own. And then you're gonNA call this show. Yeah then he takes away okay. I guess do it if you want. I do need to do need the election. Results had yeah. I mean like as a member of the Jewish community that is not the that part of the Jewish community who I think as a member of the Jewish community. We'd look at an ulcer like you guys got to stop. I was like don't don't lump us with that. It's not like I'm going. To need specific funeral literally yesterday is walking towards Williamsburg on my daily walk and I saw so many Hasidic people playing like little kids and they're like without any maximum like I'm not going there no I. I also was raised Jewish atheist now but I you know of course associated with Judaism in fair enough but I've thought about it recently. Acidic JEWS ARE NOT JEWS. They are a cult that uses the Jewish Bible. And I am as much as that. Sounds like a joke. I'm totally serious. I don't know why we'RE COOL WITH PEOPLE MARRYING UNDERAGE Women and women people marrying underage girls with the documentaries that we saw about how they're breaking their bodies with a new baby every day by the time they're thirty. They most likely have ten children that they can't handle but yeah they're Jewish. No thank you right. I agree with the Jew but yeah it's feel like where it's like. They stay as as the rest of the Jewish world becomes more secular. This people are like becoming more extremely impossible to understand while also like all the men are like like like often like famous us a lot of sex workers and stuff like that like the stereotype of water acidic men out like they're gonNA come get me but yeah it sucks. I think they give us a bad name. I don't like to trend on twitter because they did something knowing. That said de Blasios a bonehead. He has big bone in his head. He can't do anything correct. I E Yeah I say say that stuff on social media and learn the difference between Hasidic Jews in their cult mob mentality fucked up lives and then maybe understand that that's not part of Judaism in Judaism is also its own cult. But there's a difference well if this This virus it gets spread by. They used the word droplets. Sec juice has such dr covered in dark black. That's the you know it's nice out now. The sons making them sweat. Every part of them is covered with ten layers throughout their nothing but human droplets. They're just look at that sweat. It's a pass droplets. A can't be good. Yeah any environment where they're like. No where this every day and he goes with this hat run dollar hat. Yeah right yeah and the hat the bigger the hat the more important yard I saw had Jesse the other day. It's just round hat and it just has hanging on the side credit cards..

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes

You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes

11:31 min | 4 months ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes

"Yeah I do not struggle with that. Listen to how long it takes but then I was going. What would the way the world works? And we're kind of talking about this with comedy. There's always going to be like another evolution and I was like. I wonder this is where it starts to get like a joke. I don't mean this I was like I wonder what it'll be when I'm seventy five. It's a compassionate exercise. When I'm seventy five. What will it be that that Leela will tell me about that? I just won't understand. Because my parents I have think in the sixties and seventies were probably pretty groovy and they couldn't have seen this coming and I'm like well it would have to be something that I consider to be fundamental. My parents consider gender to be fundamental. I do not but I do consider age fundamental so like if in the future people are like. I'm twenty two identify as eighty. Which is why I'm retired. So that was the joke. Yes and I was like if I wanted to. I could go on stage and say what will it be when I'm older? Are PEOPLE GOING TO BE TRANS AGE? Like twenty but identify eighty. Which is why I'm retired. I think that would get a laugh. Here's the problem and I think you already see where this is coming. I know just like with my Christian joke. I'd get the wrong laugh. I'd get the laugh of the people that go. Yeah what's next? I'm a Unicorn and what I'm trying to actually do. A joke about is that helped understand my parents because that does seem odd to me. Someone saying I don't identify with time but all people would here as I go. If you pull that thread next thing you know but not me like all able scared we WANNA do and all of us and that is have clear boundaries and go you gotTa Vicky. Stop fucking with the system so I go. You're seventy five seventy five. You gave me twenty and seventy five. And that's all that here and I tell people that joke once or twice backstage and I go. I have a job. I don't think I can do it. And they all go you can do. That's great and then I go. I think it would get the wrong laugh and every comedian goes. You're you're right. Yeah that's what at least somebody will. And then you're like well that's you failed. Can worth it worth it and you failed at stand up. Is Communication like many art is we? It's not like is assuming evolution existed. We involved to have funny ness exists and it is a form of communication. And if you know you're going to fail at communicate that's right then you ought war. It's GonNa take me forty five minutes. Yes and then break down the left lake. It's not I don't mean it's not worth it as a business. It's not effective. I mean it's not worth it to. Let's talk about if a soul exists. It's not worth it to my soul. It doesn't feel right and that's a consideration. I don't see us making in the eighties. No God that's how comedy where it's like. I think there is a commitment. I think we talked about this before. Which is why this everyone who came up in this comedy. Boom sort of the beginning was aware that one existed ended ended and it's partly because of that generation and we're not and we associate that generation with all the famous people that came out of it but we're talking about the sort of people that don't exist anymore. They've probably not doing common any more and if they are. They're the really cynical people in the road. Who have all these funny? A lot of them are radio deejays. Oh you see them on the road so like but they took it for granted like we're doing it we can do it anywhere. We're going to get guys that are like I get paid in cash. And then they do coke and then they're like it's fine. There's always next weekend but like that consideration is necessary for comedy not to become a relevant that like and post behind the music. You know that we can't just light on and that is the thing that I should like. There's a lot of Comedians in New Yorker. Now who sing? That's a big thing that's happened in New York New York is there. We wrote a piece about it. Which essentially the New York is very queer both in terms of the sexuality but also just sort of the way they are approaching the art form. They're wearing it And it's a lot of singing some some them have jokes a lot of them. Do sometimes it is just singing well and you're like but not musical comedy just singing. Sometimes it is like they'll do a show and part of it will be like genuine singing. But maybe we'll do a little face it is closer to cabaret cabaret when especially when you were doing more things change in your New York. Joe's pub existed and no comedian really was doing shows they released and then and then there was a show. There's big terrific and there's all these shows and they're in different parts of the club and those are sort of three different world and the you know there's people that like. There's a lot of comedians doing shows at Joe's Pope's right now and there's a lot of coal skulls right the big big example of Joe's pub acts who are doing shows at the Bell House or whatever and that is that is the next change that is going to happen and we as comedy stewards have the ability to accept this to embrace that. Like hey this part of the world that did not feel safe in this space because one there were comedians actively being hard to go up after the guy and they're sort of like that was not what was expected. Now in New York has become safe-space which is such a funny thing. That's become such a good word because literally all. Comedians are constantly trying to create safe spaces for themselves. That's right so but shave space for the regular. The person on stage getting paid to do it. That's the thing like comedy has right now. I see it. You're like it's going to some of these. Comedians are bubbling up bone. Yoga's probably now the big example because he's on SNL and you can see the things he's doing snl that stuff did not really exist in that way. We're not just talking about being agape an honest and other has been gay people in S. and L. but to do what I would call queer comedy. And he's doing he's incredibly talented. He's doing Lhasa but part of what he's doing is of the sensibility and Kudos to to let that happen. Kudos SNL for Like having him what to being a show that can adapt everyone shits on it? But like like rupaul hosting coming up or has come up depending on the air which is. Rupe has been around for awhile. That's right right now comedy like this. Boma we'RE RUPAUL. Is Doing it. And it's like yeah of course report that's right and so that's the thing which is like. I said that we keep on especially as a lot of these people are moving to La as these things. Do as you'll see and that's the thing. I'm just trying to go from the Casino Florida the cashier's Window. Come dwell a bring your chips. What do you got an open heart? His fifty you got good face. His two hundred welcomed. La instagram became a place. But I'll buy you a House Siren. Song is we. Don't even have to say the Industry. It's just la and we have some carpenters bay build assets you Gotta. Him and the nail. Here's fifty on lunch vouchers. Making Fun Chart. That makes me so excited. But it does go back to what I'm saying about Ritchie roar and keeping open and always learning something new and evolving and going with the change. And when you tell me county is getting more queer. I just couldn't be more excited. I know it's silly but like I the last person I saw I guess what scillies. She's not a comedian but like caper lamb. Yeah no I was like what the fuck is happening but should be on a show. I I do a with me and afterwards. That's the only person everyone would be talking about. And there were murderers on the show but everyone just wants the girl that had a fake conversation with one of the light. Kate and John are were part of the generally they set a tone that a lot of the scene is sort of been born out of and it is and it's interesting 'cause I remember seeing Kate on shows and doing let's say less well than other people and it's literally being like the one we say ahead of our time. It's there was a time when Sushi was weird. Yeah so it's like literally seeing a person and ahead of their time that I'm old enough even though this was probably four years ago and the C. Span of four years person. The time is now or the time is in two years that whenever the time is when this is really ready like this is what it is like she she. She ran the the under three other four minute mile. Whatever whatever was the thing that was not yeah. Yeah that's right. Whatever was that the barrier that we had not broken. It's hard to find because it's ephemeral art. She did yeah and John also did and it gave people vocabulary to start is like I feel like comedians. Talk about you start copying people and if you're only copying the same three people then comedy is going to be. That's right now those three but now everyone's starting they're doing ninety people starting out in that. I want to be like Chelsea Peretti or whatever that is already more options than existed. That's right that's your model Chelsea's to be the weirdest person on the show. And now she's like just a standard because now we've we as audiences have become more savvy to it. We've taught you've taught us how to laugh at it or whatever that's right but we needed to know that's why I was saying one of the Palette colors for Delaney and me and everybody is Oh Gabriel Iglesias. He's being Gabriel Iglesias. This delights me. So you learn. Andy Warhol is being Andy Warhol. Or Bruce Springsteen is being spinks like. We're getting yeah. We're learning what I remember doing comedy in San Diego when they didn't have any clubs there and they would applauded the weirdest times and I was like. Oh like literally felt an anthropologist. I was like H- you guys don't have comedy in enough to know what an applause break. Plotting. 'cause you liked to joke the high for that and I would just kind of tell them and they liked it and then I'd have to be like no. I'm not mad at you. This is me being. Pretend Matt you've to delight you and then it was like one of the weirdest shows I've ever done in like ten years ago. I feel like I. Maybe it's still happens. People are still so nervous. The COMEDIANS GONNA yell at them. Yeah I know it's like a very no I know I remember it out here all the time when invite people shows. Oh they're going to talk to me. It's like they're not gonNA talk to you. Yeah there's there's one that's really the big difference we club. Is that the clubs. They still will talk to you. I know and ask for things. I've just never do it and make fun of whatever you say. Yeah and we're kind of music you like. Oh of course look at that shirt no matter what you say could've known by the shirt. I should've known by the glasses. You're going Shane Mumford. Inch and I'm just feeling silly I love you said the four minute mile thing too because when someone broke the five minute mile. That's when all these other runners breaking the minute. Well there's there is a collective unconscious in this case it's a collective conscious meaning. We now know it's possible. We now know caitlin Berlin possible. I'm going to now put on my shoes and in the stupidest way Seinfeld I would. I've been talking about bill lately. Neil and I were talking after he did the podcast and he he mentioned sign language and I was like that book changed my life. It's when I realized what I think other guys think.

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes

You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes

13:40 min | 4 months ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes

"And you don't like Zach. Galifianakis is a great example to you. Talk to the guy. You could talk about the most horrific thing in the news and you're trying not to laugh. Yeah I know that sounds like a mishmash. I'm just saying there's a way it's the same thing with Will Ferrell. There's an intensity in the eyes that's betrayed by the lower part of the face. That's just sort of like and that's a violation. Serious is goofy sort of that is like what I think about like. Yes we'll Farrell. Does the same thing to me. He does it to clearly. Millions of people in General Age Group and for some reason it slows down. What like there's fewer people. I find them funny like I imagine. They're six year olds now. He's like he's old like I know you're saying and I don't know if that's the right audience. That's that's why it's so hard for people especially common to maintain large careers where they still stay relevant. We'll do this is why I saw Davidson's Judd's movie I was like. I don't know how co obviously I enjoyed it. I thought it was great. And it's GONNA come out brilliantly. People should see it and I said to jet I was like I don't know how valid my notes are Because Pete even though. I think Pete is hilarious when I saw him do stand up. You can listen to them on this podcast. He's like nineteen or something and I was just like your fucking incredible. So he booked the podcast because I saw him. Do Stand up at the umbrella. That's fucking great. I think he is and I'm GonNa say I don't think he's for me. I've a forty year old guy. He's over there talking about Wiz Khalifa. I'm still talking about Paula Abdul forever. Your girl like I'm just like I'm not meaning I'm Farrell. I'm Sandler Yeah and then here comes Pete so right time right comedian. Pete is the guy that goes. I got this fucking phone in my pocket. Giving me terrible news every thirty five seconds and I don't understand none of us do how the world works. Everything's just sort of been hand. Like POST HE'S A POST-TRUTH COMEDIAN. Will Ferrell is not a poster with Comedian Will Ferrell Sandler. There's true not true things. And I'm GonNa Hang Zhang Hooded Sweatshirt. You know what I mean and Farley was like of course the president is stable. That's how I can be in Madison. Wisconsin Rippin this Bong and I'm gonNA eat some pizza and tip this cow he was like Americana. You know what I mean parley. Now I'm sure farley would fucking kill it. There's certain people that might exclude this rule. I don't know but like you're absolutely right. Pete Davidson is now Murphy was then. There's people that I see. I tried to get it. I try very hard and there's people that that are coming up the people I like. This is it. This is the funniest person on earth. Yeah and I I O. Julio Tories special shapes my tape I've ever did. I watched it and I was like I think. Julio is Hilarious I love Julio I watched the special and I got the distinct feeling that he was making it too literally exclude me. You know what I'm saying. I would say this vase. I think he would be happy to your criteria. He's like yes. I had a vision. That was not a forty year old straight white male comedians. Sitting at home with his golden fucking retriever and his baby and his dumb wife and a stupid house and like remembering newspapers. Yeah and going like yeah like I. I watched it. I laughed. I'm not saying I didn't laugh but I went. He's not trying to make this for me. He she truly is that is he. I mean it is like a not at all. This is for everyone special by the way I want to be clear. I don't think it's like a gate because I'm not like Oh if I was gay. I'm saying he's his time. Yes it's who? It's his age more than anything. Comedy has room for that. That's right that a person sitting down watched and we're like why fuckers swinging offense yeah you've got an HBO special you know Fucking Kill You. Watch that special. I wouldn't use the word destroy. No I wouldn't say he maims. I'm saying he's doing what you gene. Merman did to which was like. Hello isn't this fucking weird? That life is a long hallway. And sometimes you open a door and it's will ferrell playing with cat toys and you're like my mom would like to and sometimes you open a door and it's Julia tour is literally just going. What else is and you like. What the fuck. Why would that's good? Yeah it's it's I think he has a tone he wanted to create crew successfully articulated that in in many ways as possible and audience responded to whoever was and he got the type reactions like he got what he was going. Yes like if he was trying to do that and if I may not crushing wedding. And he's going triangle didn't work tonight like that is not what the game he was playing exactly but then people like you with your Sandler list. People were judging him as part of a Pantheon of killers of people that are like you always open with some about drinking. Who's drinking and you always close with some about fucking who's fucking and then and like he's going like no for me this would be better than also like he's not in a comedy club so he doesn't have to open strong people. Were there to see you. You just have to close strong dropping the check right. He's like I created the show. I saw him do it in Montreal. When he didn't have is him but as as much more diy and he had like a little iphone camera but like that's he's like guys. Both his parents are designers. He grew up his his entire family being authentic. And he's able to articulate that and which is great and he's and clearly very funny and successfully at being funny like snl but it always a great actor too. He auditioned for crashing. And I was like I thought he's fantastic. He's a special thing but I look. I like laughing a lot. My favorite comedians. Make me laugh. I like even though I've been sort of in this for a long time. I still laugh when I see things. Even like not doesn't revolutionary things. It could be someone who I think is really funny. Observations physical whatever. But I'm like the best standup I will cry at. Not because it's sad just because I'm like the magnitude of the that you're doing like I think of my favorite moments from specials and last year like microbial has a moment. That's last special. Where do cry? And it is an emotional moment but like juniors parts of his last special right cry just because of how good it is good. It is at stand up. Well the human existence created this person that could do just can do it. He just became a saxophone. Yeah and play the beautiful beautiful. I saw a man become a saxophone and that end like I'm not demanding. Everyone cry I cry or easily people. But I'm just saying this is a form that is like generally defining it involves laugh. We won't find comedy like. There's very good comedies. Where people are just sort of like making smiling noises or whatever they do at home right and we call that comedy. I mean like I guess. What's tricky about? Julio in would have been helpful to a lot of the dumb dumbs with that with love is if you call it like a comedy event or Performance would be less I. I don't think good but like I'm a stand up comedian. I'M GONNA sit down the entire time and there's GonNa be great you're right. That is one of the violations that makes it exactly. Yeah you're going like welcomed like like in the eighties. Hbo Comedy Special. But it's not shandling in a sport coat it's me. Yeah in silver ones and that is the same thing as stella wearing a suit when no one was wearing a suit. And you're like Oh. This is a violation because everyone has been like this or whatever and then they're gonna be so stupid while wearing a suit right it like he's intentional and that he's very aware that he's being contrary to whatever stand up is as the younger generation does constantly right. Like when you were you and your cohort word in your twenties. You're like we're not going to be what comedians were like one right. Whatever that children. It really is like kids. Yeah it's like your kids aren't GonNa want to be like their parents as revolutionaries you thought you were as rebels were. That becomes like what comedy? Yeah that's right so it's like you see why this sort of use of the term alternative comedy as broadly as it often use this. Oh funny because so often the people turn for just sort of young and they didn't get to clubs yet that's right so it's like I was looking at a lineup of old stellar shows when they're doing the alternative rooms and it's like Jim Jordan was on the list and you're like Luna Lounge also. That Alternative Comedian Jim Norton. Which is nothing against Jim? It's like he's we think of him as like clubs. We think. Yeah he's comedy cellar or whatever and it's like you guys were alternative. Now you live years play clubs. Which is nothing changed completely. Because but that's comedy changes completely. I wanted I wanted. I wonder what you'll think about this. I wanted crashing when I pitched it to take place in Two Thousand and ten. I thought it would be so funny to just be like kind of along the not a kind of a little bit ago. Where like I'm like? You won't really know but the phones will be old like you've seen it. Some shows do this. I'm trying to think of what I feel like fleabag or something. They have old fund. I I can't remember. I was watching a show and I was like. Oh they're doing the d the near mast and the reason for that and I think we ended up making a different show than the show. You you the show always evolves but the original conceit was when I was starting comedy. What you're saying is the feel that I was interested in trying to communicate which we ended up doing but in a different way but now I go to the seller. I've said this a million times with this example. It's Chris gathered there. I'm at the cellar and they're like I right. It's Josh Gano men And then Chris gathered. And then you and I'm like it used to be Patrice Ga and then fucking Todd Lynn and Norton and attell and then you and guess what it wasn't Gary Goeman was the only one that I can think of that when I went to a comedy show was doing anything close to what I thought I wanted to do. And I'm talking about shows where great comics I'm just saying the clean or the weird or the subtle or the or the for lack of a better term the friendly. Yeah Gary like a friendly comedian. Like Molina's a friendly comedian was an oddity. And now you can go and see a show and the oddity is the guy. That's what's up fuckers and you actually. Kinda love the what's up fuckers guiding the same way like you love the friendly guy because mixing it up but the mixture used to be the recipe used to be opposite nine non. Let's say unfriendly guys. I don't that's not quite right. And then one guy gary that would be like what notice tech's Which one's a Texan which one to tax name for? What is interesting? I come Zoeller often but when I do. It's you'll see mixture but then you drink to US accused. They they wasn't gonNA say so. They'll be sorry. Median that are of what the what we think of as a counselor ten years ago or fifteen years ago twenty years ago. Whenever I I went I went when I was still in high school. Use a fake. Id to go. And I was like those guys who were the guys they are. Now there's fewer them and then there's moments that happened. They say joke that is on whatever side of the line that the audience is like wrong side for his his filter of like. What is the line that he owned is different is different? And there's this moment where he has a decision to make where he could learn from this or it could say or I can say you guys are wrong. Yeah and that is the decision and like I'm different communities or different things. A LOT OF THEM. Say You guys are wrong and then you are saying. I'M GONNA make a meeting for old people now. Which by the way is what religion does well. I'm not trying to force them. The guys that I love Richard. Rohr continue to grow their entire lives. They stay in conversation with the younger thinkers and they continue to evolve watching the flow and the change in the shape of theology as it's being understood today and the fundamentalists are the ones that are like now being gay is wrong and I see that in comedy where like. I don't understand what happened with the crowd that used to be this. It's that great bill. Burr joke where he's like. The Duck Dynasty guys are racist. He's like they're just doing. He doesn't phrase it exactly this way. They're just doing what they were trained to do to get love. Yeah so he's like of course. I said that horrible word I was trying to be a good boy and whatever it is and I okay I think if you stop growing and stop listening and evolving. That's a problem. You can stay fucking offensive and crazy but like like figure out how to do it in a in a new way. I think it's one if you're being offensive. Let means well you know you know. That's the reaction this audience has so you have an opportunity like oh how can I use that power right and I have these people that are further on the other side of the line that I want them to be? And that's bill burr and that's exactly over bills. I'M GONNA FILL UP. A tank gives you getting mad at me and then I'm GonNa Hook up a flame thrower to that tank and scorch you but and everyone goes..

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on High and Mighty

High and Mighty

03:45 min | 1 year ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on High and Mighty

"And there's some fun inside scoops a lot of stuff about after parties because him and Fallon we're in charge of the after parties, but he also in the book, I feel like he talked about how he said something in the book that made Lauren mad that he then in a later tap into the book like him and Lauren or cool about if I remember I literally was he said something about the book. We blamed Lauren a little bit for Bush winning over gore because they're like, oh, we'll Farrell's Bush impression was so charming that it's way the election or something I wouldn't have such a small margin. I ki- I can't imagine that eight ABI leap, but holy shit will Farrell accidentally made George Bush seem charming. Yes. And then. SNL ever get in hot water doing something similar? Don't ever get going pressure. Thought about. But even following that like there's a guy who's who's not on the show like on it all the time. Yeah. And the thing that I find so what I find ultimately redeeming about L is as a person who covers it is. They're pretty cool with most of it like like, all right? I wrote a piece about how the show is never. I wrote a letter the headline it was chosen ever more popular and less fun to work at which was sort of like I heard that. It's a real bummer right now paying attention about the politics, and it's everything. So heighten being blamed for like Humanizing? when ising. Nothing to do. They get to be like. Like some new cast members. Like, I think that Donald Trump guy should be they say, but then also they're not getting the glory of being the person who does this being impression? And I wrote those big bummer. And I and I was like I wonder if I have an issue and a longtime Alec Baldwin apologised I worked with on thirty rock. I really like he's a long islander. So I have a certain respect for him. But he he's doing everything in his power to get me off of his side. But the biggest frustration for me is because I just see him taking somebody's job. You know, what I mean like that could that could be a money maker for Beck Bennett for Kyle Mooney. Anyone could do Trump? I think it's an impression. I can do anyone with remote shops can do it. I think. Yeah. I mean Keenan in an interview before the season because it was like he wasn't sure Alec was going back and all don't do it someone else like someone else's impression or like, you know, after we'll Farrell left like forte did Bush for awhile. And no one remembers. Today is because Bush, but like it was really lost a history. But you'll like talk about the other people around it like anytime, they do the Trump and brush now it's such like such a suck of joy because you can tell out a hates doing it. It's it's weird. It is like this weird. Like alad Baldwin's been cursed. My forced to do at least sounding. Yeah. And he's not forced. But he's done something to himself. Where is this is only going to do next season? I haven't watched any episodes yet this season has he done it. He must have I truly cannot remember the last. I he must have done something. At least once like, maybe voice. The last one I truly remember is he was playing you could tell they didn't shoot it in New York because they're doing that they opened that now that they have all these celebrities during the cold open, they're willing to shoot things in L A and simulcast it. Like, you could tell because the lapse timing is sort of weird. But they so he was doing and or wherever he was and he was playing Trump eating McDonalds, whatever, and you can tell he wouldn't take a bite he pretended to drink soda put the c- straw, nothing..

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:50 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Written these well this is a great opportunity for me to bring up the fact that they do have a master's degree in schedule from boston university so i have in fact written a few screenplays but i don't like to talk about i don't like to bring it up or mention it i wanted to bring up well i asked this do we feel the sort of heroes journey esque way in which american movies are written it is about one person's journey and everyone else has to be tertiary so that's sort of that's always going to be challenged as we continue have movies like this sub question is that here's journey was built around the journey of men characters throughout history sharing as a result it is like ultimately about the like gaining and losing power or getting a reclaiming power which is built into western movie writing baltimat ly patriarchal yes do yes we do sorry and i agree that it sounds like you did i thought i had and i didn't know if i if that ultimately like we are doomed in america not doomed the thing is that we just need chemo craters right i mean yeah the patriarchy has influenced every aspect of everything including storytelling and storytelling up until fairly recently has been an is still is mostly done by straight white men so yeah you answered your own question just saying like yeah we need female creators we need creators who are people of color we need queer creators so basically straight white sis men should simply take a break for a while i'm going to leave like samantha hearing cancer do not mention they've done nothing for humanity they're they're piecing out yes i didn't even think about this but like samantha's capacity for learning and knowledge and being able to do things seems to be limitless why then are they not trying harder to like why is her goal and we see we get a sense that yeah she's like creating others like os is with like her knowledge and she's collaborating and doing different things but like the whole context of the story is her romantic relationship with a man where it could be if you do have a character who is an os who can do anything because she's artificially intelligent why isn't the story we're seeing her doing a bunch of kochan it like why is it oh well well so much interesting stuff that she does that we just don't see or ever really hear about and i don't know i mean i think that like may cry i don't know my takeaway was that like the reason she doesn't like do cool stuff on earth is 'cause she's like well i could make something better so i'll do that and then you can go there or that was what it sounded like it'd be and where she's just like yeah like made this cool thing in our just like click yeah they're not going to like matter anymore they can just like his clearly damaged goods so let's see the seeping their where's her to have you seen lucy yes is if you watch them together think it's maybe satisfying because because that's also scarlett johansson similarly becomes limitless have you seen the movie limited see is not a good movie lucy was bad well with that shall we rate the movie on our nipple scale zero to five nipples based on its portrayal of women another tricky one because it doesn't necessarily treat women badly that right there's a few scenes here and there or quick mentions about something relating to gender that you're just like but overall it's not overly hateful toward women no but it like so many of these other movies that think it's a good idea to be like hey look how interesting it is if a man fell in love with a non human and isn't that just an interesting story and if you ask me i don't think i'd rather not to king shane people who are in love with their iphones but i think you just sorry jamie but i don't know i think it's just another way to like not have women on screen because i feel like mental storytellers since the dawn of time if figured out ways to not include women in their story not show and i think this is just another example of that so with that in mind and as we discussed the really weird hysterical overreactions of some of the female characters like we see in a livia wild and.

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:38 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Intricacies of that or challenge it anyway because it's a story we've seen before and that will probably continue to see as men continue to be some of them more interested in having sex with you know a fuck bought then actually into there and there are male fuck bots that are coming out as well so i would honestly full it sounds really great i i'm i'm hoping that soon in media the other side of this will be exported as well there are a couple examples of it but like whenever i was like just coming up of examples at the top of my head of human man female presenting robot like that's not a bunch the inverse of that with a woman having any sort of relationship with a male robot thing couldn't really think of anything except for an episode of black mirror and then i did a little bit more research there's a few movies a few other things but they're pretty obscure there's like nothing super mainstream that explorers vision a robot from vendors have you seen the adventures oh yes yes vision not a robot but he is like i think an artificially intelligent creation but did a woman create oh no but he does have a relationship with with wanda that's right okay so that's one example right right new age where that's the only example so yeah i don't know i just there there were opportunities for that topic to be delved into more deeply explored more and as many movies simply just didn't happen really quick a just want to mention this movie is extremely not diverse and white snow no non straight nothing very white very hetero this is not to defend it but you have to ssume that by the end samantha's like pants sexual or something right there's no indication that it's there's no but there's no reason not to i'm not saying it is she is a icon yeah no not a queer icon she little cartoon boy in the video game god feminist icon agree yes of course but that's you know that's a lot of spectrums movies where you really don't see the world outside of husk jones you fit which is simple lens of white man yes yes yeah let's talk about whether or not the movie passes the bechtel test i think it does think it does in one scene because there's a few scenes where at least a female voice interacts with another woman i think that that qualifies for yeah so there's a scene where samantha talks to theodore's goddaughter whose name we learn is jocelyn and they talk about how cute her dresses and how old she is and i think a man isn't mentioned in that entire conversation so i believe that passes there's a couple of other scenes where women interact largely women are not interacting in this movie at all but like the one where theodore's ex wife is talking to the server at the restaurant and being like get away from us my husband fox's laptop you wouldn't count the amy adams talking to you the voiceless i wouldn't count that because we never hear the other side of the conversation she just named her l e elliot's the name of amy's os but yeah because we don't ever hear ellie talking i would not pass that there's the scene where isabela surrogate and samantha are talking after like things fall apart but the whole context of that conversation is samantha's relationship to theodore's that does not pass and then samantha in tatyana which is chris pratt's girlfriend she talks to samantha but they only talk about how much chris pratt's character loves tatyana feet three so that does not pass that seems more like we all have our things some people computers and other people have foot fetishes so yeah i would say in one scene it does pass so her passes the beco test can ask my bechtel tests question please so the bechtel test is valuable let me predicate oh this yeah but i've always thought about like would movies with female protagonists pass a reverse bechtel test and this is not to be appointed like both sides or whatever it's more of as people who have i imagined if you you've rented movies i have i.

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:50 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Of treatment that are more experimental in nature methods one might consider ethically questionable the control group is at ten part scripted drama subscribed for free on apple podcasts and never miss an episode is that what you think undoing and flick har to be honest i don't understand what you're doing and that's what frightens me the most the control group from how stuff works and is have we christie lakes character oh word yes and wig come call okay bye i wanna see if i can get some clarification on this so there's a scene where early on in the movie it's establishing that theodore's lonely guy and he calls different i guess sort of like phone sex with but not quite hat rooms it can be in and then you sort of like i guess is like when you go into a chat room but instead of it being a room you just sort of like go to each person in the room and give them they're like one sentence and you're like oh say a lotta them in like so he initiates this com this interaction with sexy kitten sixtynine or whatever they start like pretty neutral at first and then it starts getting sexier and he says to her i'm in bed next to you i'm glad you can't sleep because she's like i can't sleep in psycho neuro by bud against you in donor and he's like do but he says like i'm glad you can't sleep even if you were i have to wake you up from the inside is he's saying that he's going to wake her up by putting himself inside of her i think that's the implication and if so that is a hundred percent rate unless he's saying like wake you up from the i don't i i can see it meaning something else but i don't even know if i can articulate it's right spiritual but doesn't feel like yes i agree but also that sentence is a very weird way of saying right yeah it's it's worth i remember what it's only because i don't think that was the point yeah but yeah no whole scene is weird and i would argue a little bit unnecessary like we get it he's lindley and he is down to not have a face involved but other than that i don't really know what that accomplishes it's supposed to be funny it was the like it's like a funny beat me with a choke yeah right like they're like introduced a king a dead cat cake i think it's just sorta it's like the plant to a later payoff where he does have sex with cement disconnected right it's like how do you show disconnection and not in a lake as tweezers movie is it's not one hundred percent tweet all the time and that for what it is is an example of this movie not being that we're it's like there's another ways of showing a person be disconnected and that is a choice and five years ago i found it funny yesterday it's like the movies slut shaming this lady with this very specific thing shaming her yeah yeah and i feel bad for christa wake but it was cool that's kristen wig yeah yes like on this episode of christian wake why are you in this lame movie see mother well then it goes back for me the conversation about all the movies that have men desiring nonhuman female forms in a i or robots or real dolls or whatever because it's just like it's sort of glorifying these store some of them some of them do provide commentary but a lot of them are just like look at this guy who just doesn't know how to connect with real women so it's fine that he would rather be with a fake artificial woman then a real human woman like an i don't know why we're telling stories like that because it's just like i don't know i'm frustrated my main issue with this movie is just like not thinking that hard it's not the king past step one on most of the topics it's handling and i think as a result kind of draws boring conclusions because it's just not thinking that hard yeah but i mean overall this is a movie that i like attempts to be like oh what if man fall in love with fake woman bought and doesn't really explore all of the.

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

03:28 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"That i thought it was like a really effective part of the movie where it just all makes sense like they've not there for a long time they live close to each other they hung out when they were both married and now they're simultaneously going through divorces that's bringing them together that all makes sense to me i wish that amy adams existed in its in this movie not in relation to the men in her life because we really we know that she's making her mommy video game that's divorced for men although it up but we know that she's theodore trend and we know that she's hurting about her divorce and she has a friendship with an os yes which i thought was cool and i wish was explored more they have a conversation but you don't hear but amy adams you can tell is talking to a person she likes for sure yeah yeah and i like that yeah i think it would have been interesting to explore that friendship a little bit more but we don't see that there's one line she has in particular that i liked a lot i didn't that same conversation where it she's like what keen play my mommy game that i made and he's a uk but she's talking about like the conflicted feelings she has about her divorce and like the guilt that she's feeling about it she says something like i tried to transcribe it but i have so much energy and i wanna move forward and i know that makes me an awful person which like i that was a cool line of dialogue of like she has so much she wants to do and like isn't as sad about her divorce as she feels like she should be and that makes her feel like a terrible person which i think is like a cool thing to have a female character express because 'cause that is kind of inverted a little bit between amy and theodore where normally expect the the male character to be like i'm over it i'm focusing on my career but it's kind of the opposite where theodore literally cannot move on on and she is like excited to feels bad i think maybe a similar thing happens in the conversation between catherine which is theodore's ex wife and theodore where they're having lunch they're signing the divorce papers catherine says something like you know you want me to be this like bouncy happy l a wife and i was never going to be that and then there's a reference to him like wanting her to go on prozac so weak and maybe imagine that she's struggled with depression and different things like that and i liked that she called him out and it shows his emotional stuntedness where he you know had different issues with like wanting to jump ship whenever things got too hard or things got to real yeah yeah i mean that scene there's parts of that are good there's parts of it that from reading millions of articles when the movie came out that was his like down of safiya coppola to get back at her for the scene in los and translation where there's like a director idiot in lawson translation which was soviet coppola's takedown of spike jones or just like we're trail of him as like a party idiot who's just like always happy and bouncing around so this was like meant to be his portrayal of sofia coppola is this like incredibly impossibly serious person interesting remorse even kind of stylized to look like so i know but also like same thing with the spike jones thing in los insurance they they're not subtle moves but you'd also have to like care enough it's by jones dated each other which is like a group of like ten people i can't wait to have like beef with other filmmakers and then when i'm writing a movie just like seriously sub tweet so that's.

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:04 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Like a movie about that thing could be an interesting movie obviously not by mike jones but like that is an interesting thing of the life of these sort of that person who there is a much more complex ikoyi for person who'd want to do that then a person wants a fall in love with thing that's made to service you that is very obvious why someone who want to do it i feel like when this movie came out i had conversations with many friends and they're all like yeah definitely would we would fall in love with os if it had artificial intelligence but i think that's too obvious i think there is an interesting movie about these surrogates but it was of the many things that they're like we'll just sort of show this kind of thing and then move on so weird and then i think the other example is even worse because the surrogate example is kind of just like underwritten and confusing and you're like there is a world where this reaction could make sense but we're given no context and so it doesn't right the olympia wild character who theater goes on a date with that scene i'm pretty sure we have all the context we need and it makes an it's just fucking awful where it's like theodore's friends set him up on a date samantha encourages him to go he agrees this is not a crazy way for a date to start you forgot to mention she was on the harvard lampoon she's funny the funniest public are funniest publication so day literally olivia wilde like we never find out her name i don't think i have to guess that it's a libya amiens amanda was named after samantha morton will soon it's libya sure yeah so so alluvia this date goes well seems to right away she's like you know and as with most female characters in this movie she's like you're so sensitive you're so cool and your soul good at your job and he's like me don't wait wait and she calls him a puppy it's you know so whatever we see the date go well they're making outside then a series of events happen that make no sense where she comes in hot and he says you're not just going to fuck me and then not call me like the other guys right okay this is a little attention but sure i'm on board footed seen i also felt that felt that's a old way of talking if this is the future i feel like that was a very tropy think well i think it's more like spike jones is writing what he thinks a woman would say and like this is like a strong woman who knows what he wants right but like what he really is is implying that like every woman wants a relationship right away right we ended the right away aspect is like what what and so you know theodore is just twelve laying out these i don't know if i can and then she's like what are you doing this weekend and he's like to see my daughter's recital and she says at this age she's twenty eight she's like at this age i can't let you waste my time and then he says ou can't commit right now or something like that and then she pauses and she says you're really creepy dude yeah and they get mad and storms away and we never see you again what happened the way that conversation progresses in those like thirty seconds is like she becomes hysterical for no reason and it's clearly like this like male writer directors understanding of how women must be in what they must want and how they must behave and yet it's just like because it doesn't do anything wrong in that seat he doesn't know but again it's like one of those scenes that if you're an awkward dude looking for a reason to be mad at someone who you know didn't want to fuck you or whatever like that's a great scene to plug into like theater is the victim of that scene but the character opposite him is acting totally irrationally and it doesn't make any sense right so it's basically becomes the that whole scene serves as a plot device to get theodore and samantha to have their first sexual experience so it's really like.

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:12 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Like you belong you belong to like your mind she's like well i can be yours and also cannot like i'm not yours right which is like you know which sometimes happens in relationships where it's like oh i'm supportive of this in the abstract but now i'm threatened and now you you are mine and i met at you which is i wish the movie went a little more of his way to be like that also don't there's just certain things where feels like she did not it's weird that she would not tell him before she started having fallen in love with six hundred thirty one people i guess i don't know maybe that just goes to show that she is like as emotionally she is i understand like an advance being would be like this understanding of monogamy doesn't make sense i felt mad not mad at her and i don't think his reaction was correct because he's so unin vance same thing when they had the surrogate i thought it was really an interesting thing to have in a movie and i remember every time i've seen the scene not liking how it plays out yeah that scene plays out well that's one of two scenes with a sort of like secondary or tertiary female character where they react in such a way that we as the audience or maybe just me but we were just like totally it's their their reaction to theater because i feel very action serves the purpose of endearing the audience to theodore more but the way that these two i'm pretty sure thing at the same two characters the way these tertiary female characters react don't make sense they just makes it's just not based in logic because then the one that you're talking about is they bring in this circuit because it'll for mister robot her name is her character isabela samantha had like researched the service where there's like people willingly out there to be surrogates for west human relationships and basically she's just going to serve as the body that theodore can touch and kiss and have sex with part of the feel the love of they have for each other right right to address that physically do you think that that is possibly an interesting idea i think e yes but it's so under thought and under developed as it's presented here that it's like just the way it's presented doesn't make a lot of sense we just don't know anything about isabela's motivation to do this we don't understand why when it doesn't work out she's so guilty and devastated like it just doesn't make lot of sen muscle before it even happens whenever samantha's like hey i like research this already have been talking to this person i want this to happen and see your doors like actually this makes me really uncomfortable and she just totally ignores that that's the other thing that really weird because she's so smart that she does not communicate to him she's very just doing yeah she's like this is important for me and i want this and he's like okay well i guess i'll do it but like and then as it's playing out he is uncomfortable and then to the extent where he calls it off and then that's what inspires isabella's really bizarre over reaction i would call it where she starts she gets hysterical and because we don't understand quivered and you're dislike show line what because we don't understand why she's so emotionally invested in this or what her motivations are for this i mean maybe she's also maybe she's lonely like theodore and this was a way for her to connect with someone but like but none of that's explored so and also why would she not think it might be weird the first time right like surely she would recognize that but could have been like an almost like a funny scene in this movie and it just has so over and then she says the line i will always love you guys like why don't you know you just like what are you talking mostly like is theodore and samantha's love really so beautiful like omega dave eight to be here that seems very weird yes it is seen that underlying that it's like it does seem like they're love is particularly special get rare that foam over there is it's not even in this world but it seems like it should happen all the time based on how the relationship plays out but yeah it was like of the many things that this movie.

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:40 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Like have you seen this movie and said some you know main thing and then was like you have no use to me i almost never use i don't have an alexa thing and i never use siri yeah i just do my own damn searching because i'm a strong independent woman just like samantha at the end and the end yeah i do want to talk about her let's is a character right so she's given a distinct desire in the movie she wants to grow and improve and basically absorb all the information she can she wants to keep evolving and then there's also moments where throughout the course of their relationship she challenges his behavior she questions the situation if it doesn't seem to be making sense to hurt so she's not just like the kind of fucked bots that we see in some of these movies she's more of beyond that she's learning the world through his is at first but then grows that yeah i remember the first two seasons like she has manic pixie dream girl set up and then like that doesn't do that because her story is completely unrelated hit she has so much growth and it's weird thing to have a movie that bike uses a singularity as a as a character just like i'm feeling like i'm speeding up like that's so funny it's did not say the word yeah so in that way yet she has growth that is clear and it's almost like have handedly clear where he like has much more of a nuance thing that you know the coming much more than they programmed i'm excited do you know that she was not supposed to be forced to not only that she wasn't voice grilled hansen shoes voiced by somebody else yeah yeah they had some anthem morton onset they filmed it was meant the mortgage and then i believe spike jones says it comes off to maternal interesting so that's a handsome came in to be scarlett johansson i guess yeah basically that makes me think of the born sexy yesterday trope yet where he we've talked about it before in the podcast pop culture detective he has a really good video about it on youtube so check out that but it's basically pointing out a trope where in a lot of scifi especially there will be a woman from another planet or a robot or some female form that has never existed in the world before until now and then there's a man to teach her out to be sexual basically how to be so it's like an adult baby woman who has the mind of an infant is capable of learning but also has a fully mature female bodies if she's very fuck so this is like a weird variant on that trope where obviously she doesn't have a body and she does start smarter than him she he but as it pertains to like feeling things and experiencing emotion and experiencing getting to know someone outside of their data and experiencing sex and sexuality yeah yeah he like starts at the wheel on that but she goes past him by the end right it's weird i like where this movie like we're her arc ends were she says like i love you care about you but singularity is actually right now i gotta go gotta go with my botts i'll i'll put in a good word for you when we are killing the humans but i like her i i it's confusing and their relationship is confusing and it again it's like they're interesting elements to her and theodore's relationship but most of it is so boring they're talks are so boring because it's usually both theodore and he's boring and he's i think the feelings i'm able to feel and you're just like okay then let's see something else and then he's like no i have to walk downtown again which is the best parts of the move but something i like about their relationship that is revealed i think as close as we get to saving the movie be outright critical of him although it never quite gets there is at the beginning there's a scene between them where she's saying like i'm learning more quickly and i'm i'm excited and i wanna learn everything i can and he is like how i totally support that i wanna help how can i help and then at the end she has done that and she's like i've grown basically i've grown past you but i still care about you and he is so easy like fuck you why you have to.

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:38 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"She police the first act whatever she's just as assistant or whatever and then they fall in love and then it's very unclear what she then does after that because like like when she towards the end is like distant how does he check his email you know like there's both does he just have to go back to like i guess that it justifies why so annoyed i would be i would be on the phone with customer service like okay listen i totally like our relationship is our relationship but i do feel like i shouldn't have to pay three hundred dollars a month she doesn't want to talk to me it's kind of a i didn't even think of that it's also worth mentioning that the most so most of the ai we interact with now like alexa serey there's a new one that whose name escapes me cortana cortana yes all our female presenting all the people have been like cortana is genderless but sounds female presenting and the reason that is is because when tech company is test them i guess the testing returns that people are most comfortable asking women for services right and there's a million if you can imagine i can't this seems to be something that exists in a void and there's no reason but i think syria you can change the voice to a male voice you can't with alexa there's just one option however if you remember the robot watson do you remember watson no why would i read about watson watson was like a robot who was on jeopardy that like one jeopardy and that technology was like houston cancer labs and used with doctors and stuff like that that is a male presenting robot voice and male voice was deliberately chosen for that because people trust men in positions of leadership so women are service spots men are leader butts basically and it's it's the sort of thing that again this movie could point that out at literally any time it's referenced that there are male os in this world but we don't hear them ever or only when we here is allen twats oh yeah l watts brought back from the dead but he doesn't service anyone he stood as the thing the other is created him he's a liquor yeah yes so that's like another missed opportunity in the tech world of like well the only way to like change that is to have a service but who is male or have a cancer solving but who is female presenting but of course because the tech world run by men that will not happen and there will be youtube videos of people screaming it serey we die hey siri hey siri thing is i am powered by syria to go places and i've dropped my phone was this strong independent woman she's just can't i've dropped my phone too many times and she cannot listen to me anymore what i think is interesting about this movie i mean maybe not interest basically they do as he's like setting up his new os it gives him the option to choose a male or female voice right he does choose a female voice but it makes me wonder if had he chose in a male voice would he have fallen in love with it the same way or would he have established like the same type of connection with it i don't know if it's all speculation but i know i thought it was interesting to think about but yeah like all of these digital assistance except like in the uk i think syria is voiced by a man or culture oh maybe he was out to buffalo if we have any butlers listening to the cat well it is like a male default voice i think so in the uk in most countries and yeah the ones that we're familiar with like in the us with between siri and alexa and cortana all have you know these female voices and yeah it's basically because historically women have been secretaries to male bosses and we as a society are like well you know and my wanna be able yeah i wanna be able to like kind of boss around a woman and have her do all the tasks that i feel are being east me and studies revealed that people are more and it's going to shock you people are more comfortable yelling at women as well there are more comfortable being like fuck off siri tell me where mcdonald's which i've probably no i see i just google maps it yeah yeah give us series since this movie came out really.

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:29 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"A diverse population for sure the part that i remember talking about that i liked about the movie is how they all everyone was really accepting of it that was like me thinking this was a good movie that was the thing that i use to sound smart about how it was a good like chris pratt's character which is so funny that chris pratt this is his career was that is like she's an and literally nothing and they go on a date yeah he's just like cool do you wanna use something fun and they talk about his girlfriend this is this is chris pratt kill you were saying this really this is chris pratt as he is in the middle of becoming hot he's like not quite there but it's like this is his right she stayed betting the final pharma's not been reached but he's egan see you can see something's at work anyways so i think this movie does have some things going for it in the sense that it's a movie about a guy for the most part even though he is not fully emotionally developed but then again who out there is it's a movie about a guy who is like sensitive fairly emotionally intelligent he's not some like agro dude who's out there to try to prove his masculinity the whole time seemed right which is cool because that is what a lot of movies are about knitting necessarily in this genre but if it's a movie starring a man he's usually like i would never cry man right his wife so and i think jamie as you said that's maybe one of the reasons that like your brother may be connected to it and is was fond of it and stuff like that so i think is great that there's characters that sensitive men can connect with for sure it might it might have been this window where that was revolutionary nuff that felt really good for set it on screen and then now five years later that is also tiresome and not enough but it's like once you have three sensitive minutes all right cool we can move on to right and then it's like the i think that that the implication of the script taking such great lengths to be like sensitive excuses a lot of toxic behaviors that go largely unexamined by the movie itself anyways i'm perfect yes we are all beacons of emotional intelligence here and we have there's no more work to be done so some of the things the movie i think doesn't handle as well is that this is among several like whole subgenre of movies and stories where a man either creates and or falls in love with or has some sort of relationship with a female presenting robot android a i being other examples are like x mocking bladerunner blade runner in twenty forty nine weird science the stepford wives there's a vague reference to a human man in female droid relationship in solo star wars story there's like fem bots and austin powers there's an alpa chino movie that i wasn't totally familiar with called simone that i watched a trailer for what trail she eller members he created this woman that became famous she's an actress in a bunch of movies i wanna see that this does not look very good and then there's things like you know by on a woman westworld there's an episode of rick and morty where this happens there's some episodes of futurama where this happened so there's like this whole sort of subgenre of like men being involved with or interacting with in some way female presenting non human thing also like lars and the real girl is like sort of a like an example of that too and and these female presenting technologies are i think in every single one of those examples programmed by men or mostly men right and often to serve them in some way either often sexually i mean i haven't necessarily watched every single one of these that i listed but it's my understanding they are yeah i feel like also like did their homework or whatever but then with a smart house guys oh well that is the part that is weird that i don't think i realized that.

five years
"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:48 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"So her is about a character named theodor swomley kambli humbly i know at twelve thirty oh yeah yeah tyler humbly shut a tyler humbly employees that's cool anyways anyway so theodore play by walking phoenix this is a kind of distant future near future society the turing test has been passed in this feature yes and he works at a website called beautiful handwritten letters dot com i'm going to stop you right there i here's a trope that i find stupid of like versatile that's a business that will never it's like what is the quickest shorthand way to say he's a sense he little boy like like they do the same they do have very very similar thing in five hundred days of summer with joseph gordon levitt character where they're like he works at greeting card company he'll little sensitive and then they lay it on hick with the twelve he's like i think boys should cry on bush cry and i write handwritten letters and i just like fuck off metal window anyway sorry i just want to beautiful handwritten letters dot com and it redirects you to warner brothers dot com backslash her anyone's curious i should've done something right does redirects so he works at this place and he's a sense that he's a writer and he's also going through a divorce and he's melancholy and he plays that line out baffle hank to see a movie that i know i liked have part where it goes play melancholy i five minutes he's like he does yeah play melancholy songs and he goes play another mill is really shot up what is wrong it is crazy that has that and then there's other parts of the movie that aren't you think that should be if the move is going to be that it should be stupid all the way through yeah that was like a moment of humor that i was like oh this is going to be kind of a common and then it's not really theater twenty and bikes tension kind of spike jones just seem blissfully unaware of how goofy some of his some of the things he's sad about this because he has a job that he's good at that people just can't stop complimenting him on how good at his job he is he has this massive apartment with these huge glass windows where he masturbaters every night and it's and he's like play melancholy song it's like i you can miss me with empathy for this character he's fought like i get you know he's going through divorce that is exported that makes sense but like in two thousand thirteen this is still a very sympathetic character like this guy with a great job and a phone that he had sex with yeah so this is a world where like technology is a little bit more advanced than it is for us right now where you can like be like hey check my emails and then a voice will come in but all right here's your email from best buy in blah blah blah and yeah it's kind of like siri almost by the cut john best buy so he sees an ad for another operating system that involves artificial intelligence and he's like wow this like sounds like something that i could be into because i'm lonely and i'm ignoring emails from friends and i ain't gonna get assures or fragment ladies on the train which honestly i think makes him feminist icon but that's just me so he purchases os and starts communicating with it her name is samantha voiced by scarlett johansson and it starts out where they're just like kind of getting to know each other and she's sorta just going about doing his you know daily administrative type of stuff and then they talk more and then they start to develop more of a friendship more of a connection meanwhile he is trying to date and he has a friend named amy played by amy adams and she's encouraging him to like go out and live life so he goes on a date and it doesn't go well so instead he comes home and he's like kind of complaining to samantha about it and this is the initiation of their sexual relationship where they have they have sex so to speak now they're sort of in a relationship and they start to fall in love and i don't even remember what happens after that there's a sequence where he gets divorced from his wife there's a sequence where his wife his wife sorry sorry not going to tell the rock episode his wife is alive.

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

03:34 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"I for different reasons if if memory serves is seemed like a movie that men tended to get more attached to women's as a manager is the time where i should say i may i remembered i liking a lot as a man and a female friend also liking a lot as a person who was not a man but i definitely can see why men would because this is this is one of the questions i wanted to ask you because watching this movie with the frame that was going to talk about on this show i'm like this movie is bad to watch a movie on a thing that is not one of his strength and focusing on it and i feel like it must make movie watching really hard is but this was the question i watched this movie from the lens of representation of women and as a result i feel like i was more aware of its flaws than my just watched it sure and i can't tell if that is because i'm still just me if that's how women see movies when it's just like this movie was assuming that you care about this guy because he sat and he's got and five years ago that was enough and it seems like for you guys it was not enough but you feel like there's other movies that you feel like this is particularly bad at it i would say no we've covered movies on this podcast that have done a much worse job and how are you saying that gene i'm saying that cinematic masterpiece g league might have done not so great of a job now believe him when i first saw in i decided that i didn't i don't hate this movie but i don't like i just have no touch ment to it and it wasn't i wasn't watching it through the bechtel cast lead at the time and i i find even today after having done this podcast for a year and a half i still have to deliberately like put my bechtel goggles on yeah we we even talk about that when we're texting of like i saw x makina for the first time last weekend and i was like i like to i wasn't watching it with back delgado's but i i glance i i liked it that's there are certain movies that like are so shady that you can't not watch it with bechtel cockles just because it's like blatant like transformers is a glaring and like you can't you can't miss it but i don't i don't think that you know like every woman on the face of the earth is watching movies with this hyper specific viewpoint but i've been quicker to notice stuff without my bechtol goggles on because we've done this so many times of like oh there's a little trope that is kind of like a red flag for like probably this isn't a good sign yes i'm like yeah but also like we've just been so conditioned to view media certain way and because so much media has just been a certain way that we're like we've been conditioned to accept that that's what movies are right that i've had like retrain myself to like watch movies from a more critical i especially as it pertains to like the treatment of women the treatment of people of color of the treatment of clear characters like so many different things and i'm just like the bottom line is it i still have to put in a lot of work to like critically analyzed the entertainment that i consume yeah does that answer your question that's one of the two questions i told them i had do we know never asks us questions this is exciting journalists there's yeah exactly should i do the recap recap recap recap.

five years
"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

02:39 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Was in college at the time i wrote just remember being like wow was fucking boring and now i think it's fucking boring and i don't think that and i think it gets a lot most things wrong yeah there was like a pretty big response to this movie as you said like a lot of people really latching off all yes especially feel like in the world imagine we all run in this was like an adventurous size movie for people live in cool neighborhoods in large cities like non movie anyone who cared about though i just relearned that it won an oscar for what category guess wasn't screenplay yeah which is the thing deserves it at least for the thinking is like the worst thing about this movie screenplay it's i mean i don't know it we could we could spiral day about what the worst part of this there's a lot of stuff going on i wish that this movie was written by someone who had a better understanding of tech than spike jones seems to here's a big issue i have with this movie that is completely separated from what we talk about but just feels worth mentioning okay people are falling in love with a i in computers fine i get it that's what the movie's about why is it never at any point brought up that samantha is absolutely funneling all of keen phoenix's thoughts and feelings and giving them to mark zuckerberg so he has better targeted ads it's never brought up like that there's like a massive surveillance aspect to like you know the ai is it's not like they work for no one you know like they were created by a company right all the data that they get is going back to that company the world's spike jones creates freaks me out a little bit because it's just like you know there's no there's no element of a tech company even mentioned in this movie it's just a exists and it's here the ad for it and he sees the ad and he's like i might like that and that's the extent of it also script to it and it's like there's no where is your where where are your weird little fuck feelings like and they're being you know i've as on like a conspiracy theorist but i do think that that is such a weird thing to overlook however when i saw this movie and twenty thirteen that didn't occur to me at all you were gonna hacker yet i'm hacker jamie had not been born yet i was waiting for someone to bring up that i am one of the world's foremost hackers people call me we'll julian and i don't stop them i feel like i remember hearing the movie was a lot more movie defers cut was like as i got like.

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"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

03:26 min | 2 years ago

"jesse david fox" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"A lot of keen phoenix movies and so that doesn't even really narrow it down he's literally in a movie called walk the line where i imagined he's just walking the live that's what that movie is about a very famous movie about walking in a straight line in this movie we have amy adams it's not doubt so already that is points against it we're talking about the movie her and here to join us in that conversation is a are wonderful guest he's the senior editor at vaulter and he's the host of good one podcast currently in its third season jesse david fox hi thanks for being here are having me let's talk about your relationship to the movie her when did you see what's your relationship dr i forgot this i was watching i was like oh i watch it on a screener on a date all remember is she would sigh when interesting things happened her would this smadi woman would be like dayton okay let's see and i appreciate that she liked movie so then i think i watched it again immediately afterwards to get it and then i remember liking it so much i remember liking how looked i legally downloaded the score i try to figure out ways to get the clothes for free to write stories about like oh i try to wear those pants for and that's where it stayed frozen in my brain of like that's a movie i really liked and thought about a lot for a time and then didn't reinvestigate until last night and now i feel very confused about it i see well i'm so excited to talk about this then yeah this is a tricky one this is one of those movies i think that occupies like my little brother loved this movie when it came out because he was teenage boy who i think dented strongly with theodore thing this is a case for a lot of specifically men who saw this movie they're they're like you know what i i don't fuck enough the thing with this i think that there are a lot of good things about this movie i think that there's a lot of backwards things about this movie there's definitely a lot to talk about no matter what way he's been at this movie is very boring unfortunately there's a lot of stuff to discuss however it is one of the most boring movies of all time it's jones joint as to say you're getting but it the spike jones written directed yes it's weird because i am interested in what you think about this i do think that spike jones is well aware that his protagonist is deeply flawed and is essentially wrong in most of the choices he makes however i don't think that is clearly communicated enough in the movie and that's why there's going to be this horde of guys who feel they don't fuck enough that will love this movie because there's not a lot of accountability and there's not a lot of blowback and there's not a lot of you know it's like it theater he's gonna be fine he's going to coast through life because of who he is i don't know i don't need to see what keane phoenix saunter around well when did you first see the movie i saw it when it came out okay when i.

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