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Scarlet Jimmies BONUS: Interview with Jerry Rice

Niners Nation

17:08 min | 1 year ago

Scarlet Jimmies BONUS: Interview with Jerry Rice

"This episode is brought to you by Cox with CONTOUR TV from Cox. You can find all your favorites all in one place it does it have the youtube you bet net flicker thing net flicks too and although superhero movies has all the latest titles on demand. Oh my grandkids love that Ping Being Green Guy. I prefer the one with the hammer myself okay. I think we're done here now. Get all your favorite APPs shows and movies right unconquered TV from Cox. Hey Everyone Oscar with the better rivals. PODCAST Kyle wanted to bring you this interview. He did with Jerry Rice just a couple of days ago. Oh they cover a lot of interesting topics including who is the best wide receiver on the team whether or not Jerry Rice thinks team is going to make the playoffs and kind of sprawls all over the place. There's some good conversation and we'd be remiss if we didn't bring you an interview with Jerry Rice if we didn't put it out but the audio quality is not great. We tried to doctorate up. Make It is good as we could but we figured we didn't want to rob you of the opportunity to listen to some of Jerry Rice's wise words of wisdom so without further ado here is the interview that Capucci did with Jerry Rice Jerry are you. I'm doing good man good man. I thought you take the time three and right now. We don't know would you okay. Let's talk back you know man so the game was not really a very football game but you know they'll uh-huh times you have to win ugly and they were able to do that and GonNa three and and we just gotTa keep going yeah and Ah let's be on it and you would know better than any other us. It doesn't matter who you play. Everybody's GonNa give you their best job no matter the backup quarterback no matter you're playing eve young and Jerry right in the nfl they always going to be competitive and on the way to win and the niners again because he had terminal as long as you. There's no way you win with China back in the day but now you know they have five but they were able to overcome that add defense played well big Joe out of the end zone. I think they were in the Red Zone many many times and that the game and and jumped off the defense was putting some spots but there are times where the and after dolphins there's GonNa be timed way. We're going after these dumped on. Come up and make a play. That's his football team sport with him. I think what we're seeing is for the first time in a long time. Reporting niners are playing complementary football. Would you agree that Ajax. I totally agree with that because you know back in the day when I play on the always you just referenced but they were further along than so. It's a while to catch up to the end of the season. We were working on all you you know and I think that's why you feed off. Each Other office is important in the descended having a difficult day you gotta continue to do that on August. I the is keeping them out of the end zone and office not playing that well you know you have to give those guys. They're just due to their complementing each on right now but overall. I say you know they'll be working completely. Yeah totally agree in when it comes to January and forty nine divisional playoff game nobody's going to care. They beat a backup quarterback dollar about winning. That's what the game is bored. It's all about winning man. No matter whatever you have to do to get a win and and you know in the NFL is real difficult to accomplish because like what you said you know. Eric team is going to bring the better. you know after you and you've got to be able to withstand that. There's GonNa be high those. They're going to be mistakes. Oh you gotta see him overcome that but when it comes you know January and you off then you start all over again. You forget everything that you have done doing this team. Now it starts you know going to play so you talked about you know how deep into our ahead and you see that in training camp where no often. They're still doing on still learning stuff with the defense. You know they're playing back talk. What what would you say the the biggest different in today's game in compared to when you claire biggest trash I would say probably the run pass option. That was something we we had We had to run and shoot man. I mean more about uh I'll say it was more about chemistry and everybody every position has to take care of all the line they had to be. It'd be two running backs two receivers all of that and everything was time you know if it was a three John Joe or Steve The ball in the air you know before I came around a little bit different. Now is a quarterback you know they hold onto the ball a little bit longer always gonNa take the running back or do something like that and trying to get the position but you know. I I love to run in to the west coast offense. Is something popping out again. It's a great offense and we're still being plenty of that today. He's still he's still take that is known as the ball is not thrown down as much. I don't know if the reason why philosophy Kehinde that but you know we gotta turn over say. You'll want to play after getting attornal. We're GONNA throw the ball. I mean we were going for the home run and you don't feel a lot of that in in in the game today but I feel I feel love the game I still deported and they brought their in China route nine. Oh You they are. They're playing well. They are definitely playing well. Would you say that you're surprised by their green. I'll start you know I wouldn't say that the GOP then I think you know you know and and you you let him back there and everything. I think he SMART Fan. You've been around where he's GonNa get the ball in the head the play makers way they did. you know. Try to get into this yeah. I thought the first game we really saw he's just a guy that hadn't played football in a year wasn't getting in a coming off. The injury and you could tell that black couple of weeks. He's really bounce back is playing well because the him and get like a franchise quarterback forty nine had it back to them so we talked about being the close games after player with more fun to play a game or did you like the nerve wracking and close games where it come down to you know what. I just enjoy everything that you know because the way you train is the way you prepare here in. You know just like you know even with the company that I'm with right now right around you know you know it's crazy. It's MVP and you know restaurant. He may not have been named after me and I always joke around Alabama but we both tested fiscal trees and you know about calculating right yeah yeah. No I dug it. I I want to ask you. I mean they have a big Monday night. Football game coming up so right right wrong. What's your idea of a man is not perfect. You know I have been so much more comfortable. Running row are catching a touchdown. You know they have so many flavors so many variety there's something for everyone in my favorite one my goal to one and you know when I say our corner. I had to poke but you know when it comes to write Sarong my daughter who is if a little spike go my go-to Opinion Opinion Cheddar flavor. That's what I like because I I was. I feel ball field so much fun. Yeah I it on believable and another thing too man is like I had so much fun doing right thrown. The pitcher stores nationwide. You're going to be a youtube. Series can also win. Prizes Uh if you buy a you know right so lonely on pasta-roni and one was saying. I want all the people to you know. Go go to this year because if you want to learn more go to go right back Tom but just to have this affiliation a great company only like this. You know I'm having a great time in the court. They're doing a lot of things why why Rights Roni like name aside. Why did you choose to partner with right because like I always used for ask about friends family on food and like they have so many right real simple you get away the hostile to get away hamburgers and do all that and try something different and I just don't like it was a team. That's great and okay so let's say that money. I coming up against the Brown. You could tell one thousand nine hundred. Would that be forty nine forty morning on Monday night football. Yes you can tell you what it would be. Jimmy d why did you why I have always liked him. She came from the Patriots and and you know he had a little rough patch. Where you know he's not sort of that. Well you know there was a little criticism that look efforts and stuff like that and I told everybody that these guys don't get the whole thing is that we just got to keep them upright and again this the pocket and throwing the ball now though yeah it would be Jimmy Yeah that's fair. We're talking about a guy that had never law at home. Oranje minor the only record like nine or ten or sovereigns go yeah I mean he. He went like comes back down and bottom line you you win. That's what you want yeah. That's that's the bottom line and I had to go on an early. Sunday and I felt reason starch yeah and I was doing the ready chat chat on the sideline. I was doing all of that catching the ball in natural again you after being out of the game for so long ball too much of that ball rotating then you make that stuff but they it. It just felt natural for me like I had maybe another eighty catches them eight hundred it never goes away like you know like the Kentucky Derby Horton on and every every year even that I'm retired now my buddy knows when his football team and because I always train a certain way okay and I went to the top shape so I was always ready to dial how how much how do you still prepare like you feel train no heavy into that you more still run the hill. I'm into Peleton. I kinda do a shock. I never wanted to buy just comparable of one's not. I'm always doing different things than all. pretty much sounds my family because you know. I always you know I'm always trying to say wait. Wait has to be one ninety or one eighty five or under two hundred yeah. I'm still in shape then. If I had the lineup on August I might turn you like black football. I'm I'm going going up. That's right but I appreciate you taking the time out just before we get out of here. What what are the forty nine years feeling how good you got the they still. Can't drink kool aid right now you you gotta take a game by game. You gotta cut down on the mistakes if you do that. I was always critical after a ball game. Even if one game a lot of guys on wants to really look at the Fam- really be critical on themselves when they win but if you do that you can become a better team go you know they have to cut down on a mistake in just a critical themselves. I think they have a good great. Yeah and I completely agree with that. They they won the game but they're so much more. There's so much room for I mean we could probably go on with you have to say that people and then he got hold onto the ball because he ground in the cat the way he did and I don't play one of the guys I'll be. I remember I think it was one the catchy made in the the way Kambas balance catching. I feel you only make difficult. He should come down to the football the volunteers it sure but that was a great cat they may make sure secured. I catch when he comes down and I imagine you know he's GonNa protect the ball long neck pain where he doesn't have to like you just mentioned that those are the things you do. Remember those played where that gut rate the Jerry in writing from the rest of the receivers. You can make a big play and I know you did but no doubt but you can tell you the go-to guy and he's going to have to continue to you know make played overall. I think the entire team they got to did they do that. They're going to have yeah. They will go okay. Don't be right now playoff. Yeah Okay right all right marijuana yeah I.

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Jerry Rice, Lorenzo Alexander & More

The Adam Schefter Podcast

57:37 min | 1 year ago

Jerry Rice, Lorenzo Alexander & More

"Chuck dogs like Wiser Guy Selling hot dogs in here. I'll get tickets at a game. I want to see is a hassle but I missed that stadium stadium atmosphere so I brought the stadium atmosphere to work. Oh Michael Vivid seats make buying tickets. Quick and easy find a seat you want. And just a few clicks nice. I just got tickets to tonight's Game ice-cream get your ice cream you guys can all go home now. We're good here. Adam Schefter podcast. We'll be joined one of the greatest football players in NFL history Jerry Rice as he gets ready to watch as former team the San Francisco Forty niners take on the Minnesota Vikings in the NFL divisional playoff round in the wildcard round. We saw the career of Buffalo Bills Linebacker. Lorenzo Alexander exander come to a close a great career thirteen. NFL seasons he announced his retirement after the game and hill into some of the reasons why he's walking walking away from the game and what will always remember about it. End will preview the rest of the NFL divisional playoffs with the ESPN analytics Guru. Evan Kaplan but before four we get to that the coaching Carousel and the NFL is spinning wildly on Monday. The Dallas Cowboys Hired Mike McCarthy on Tuesday Booze Day the Carolina Panthers Hired Matt Rule and the New York giants from the process of finalizing a deal to hire the Patriots special teams coordinator and wide receiver coach. Joe Judge and NAT leaves the Cleveland Browns as the lone NFL team in this head. Coaching cycle not to have a head coach at this particular point in time. But the browns have scheduled setup. They'll be interviewing the Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz on Wednesday the Vikings offensive coordinator Kevin Adams too fancy on Thursday and the Patriots Offensive Coordinator. Josh mcdaniels so many thought would be in play in New York and Carolina before they went another direction on Friday. Keep in mind. The Brown's already have interviewed Eric. The Enemy Grumman Robert Sal and I think the browns would like to have a coach in place by Saturday though. Maybe it's at some point. This weekend will see what they decide to do at this point in time before we get to Jerry Rice. I want to remind people to check out the first draft. PODCAST with milk. Hyper junior and Tom mcshea the the NFL draft is on. Everyone's mind and first draft. has you covered if you like this. podcast this is one. You'll also enjoy listening to weekly episodes began January January eighth. But before we get to that podcast first we start off this podcast with the Great San Francisco Forty Niner Hall of Famer Jerry. We rice now bring in the thirteen time. Pro Bowl selection that ten time first team all pro a three time super bowl champion the MVP of Super Bowl. twenty-three the offensive player of the year in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine thousand nine hundred. I go on and on but there's no need to list any other credentials other than we are now joined by the Great Jerry Jerry Rice. Jerry thank you very much for taking some time. Great thanks for having me in happy. Twenty Twenty Happy Twenty twenty number eighty Joey Gibson a feel for what it's like in the bay area now with the excitement surrounding the forty niners. Adam is crazy here right now and I'm sure there it is. It's going to be outrageous. You know we know that The Minnesota Vikings are coming in You know we hosted in that whole the fans are excited so we're going to be out in full support. What of the San Francisco? Forty niners and You know just the excitement you know being in the playoffs again having a home field advantage and now it's it's just up to those players to go out there and play football jerry. What is most impressed you about this particular forty niners team? I think we get you know. Give up attitude you know they. They had to battle through a lot and I predicted this. You know early during the season. I'm not trying to take Take credit it forward or anything like that but I just felt like there was going to be something special with this team and to be honest with you had him. I feel the team should be undefeated. You know. They shouldn't have lost a game this year. But you know sometimes it's okay to win To lose a game then it It helps to Spring that focus back again. They did what they had to go into Seattle to get home field advantage and they have done that now. Now it's up to them to Just Europe and get ready for the Minnesota Vikings and just keep this show Going forward undefeated. Wow this they had a yeah. They had a good chance of going on undefeated this year. And I and I joke around with Stephen a Smith you know because I was I was In New York and I told him I said this team is going to go to the Super Bowl and I still feel that way. You know you know. You've got the Minnesota Vikings and you have to respect that team but you know you you have home field advantage You know you have Expectations is sky high. Right now and you just have to Continue to focus in on your game being best football team that you can be and and just win football games now. What about this team? Do you think will enable it to win the Super Bowl Jerry defense always he's been decent. You Win Championships with defense Botha and all of those guys that defensive line You know they have to put pressure on the quarterback you know it costs a quarterback to feel a little uncomfortable You know where p might makes mistakes or something like that. They got to be able to shut down. And Ron Cook. You know he got a big game against the New Orleans Saints feeling He had about seven catches for one hundred. Twenty five yards and stuff like that. So you you got to win support. The WHO's the guy in this defense. That most impresses you in San Francisco the Botha Botha is a Bee's animal only in and you. You know the thing is George Kill you think about that offense you know to fill up that guy. People's Samuel Re receivers receivers as not looking for To catch the ball and just go down and Jimmy G. You know you know he's like captain of that ship man I and He's really he been exceptional this year. with You know just getting the ball in the hands of his playmakers and stuff like that where there. He doesn't feel like I have to do it on my own. You know. He got weapons. He got all All those guys to to help him to win football games but you know just just just You know George Kill Botha Botha to me He brings a dimension to that defense. And I it's something I haven't seen in a long all the time. He can do it all. He can rush the quarterback but then he got the ability where you know he can jump up and make an interception come down with the ball and run with the ball. uh-huh so yeah they are happy with the niners right now. And I'm very excited Jerry. Would Nick be able to keep up training with you. In the off season running the hills do all those kinds of. I don't Oh I don't know he wants to do that. He'll with me a lot of guys you know. They have cade admit they have tried to conquer and stuff like that in that. He'll want to make him throw up and they they felt like you know. I always joke around with guys I looked. I'll make sure I bring out the paramedics or something like that. Just in case of went goes down because last eight hundred meters You know to the top of that hill is going to challenge every bone in your body and can you still run those hills as effectively could no no issues. I feel I feel run to heal L.. And I can do all of that. I think I I have probably up my My you know my condition and stuff like that after I have stepped away from the game. Because 'cause I I wanted to be one of those is where you you know how when certain players retired in their people see them then they say oh. Did you actually played football right. You know and I was like no you know. I want to stay in shape and part of my regiment. You know my entire life so you don. I'm I'm still challenging myself. I do a lot of cross fit. I do a lot of Peleton and occasionally go back to the hill and and run the hill. You do is. Who's WHO's your favorite Goto Peleton? I got the Peleton biking treadmill like three or four months. Go try to do it every day. What classes you're recommending to Gerry? Sorry I have to. I have tune day. I have Robin I have Alley and stuff like that. They challenge me man. And and you know to get you. Don't bike for you know thirty minutes. Forty five minutes or even an hour. You know you're GONNA be soaking wet once you step off that bike and You and I liked it it it. It takes them into pounding all my body but also it keeps me in good shape. You ever been to the studios in New York City. No you don't WanNa do one of those I want to. I just want to show up and just walk in and and and do a class I think Cam Newton. He did a a quiet once but he only did a twenty minutes. You got to go there and you gotTa do a class thirty forty five minutes or something like that. You know it's funny. We had had a few Monday night. Football Telecast this year from metlife stadium in New York so we would stay in Jersey City so book fallen is big on the Peleton and he would say to me. I in the first week were there. He's like I went to Peleton's into classic you went. He said yes I said. Well we're back here can we go all ranging so when we were back for I think it was the giants cowboys game in November. That morning we leave the hotel in Jersey City six. Am Go to the pill studios to a class that morning. The in person who was like it was like wearing the hills with Jerry rice and then we leave and go back to tell and get ready for Monday night football. I got to go one time and it was awesome. So here's I don't want to if you're in New York I WANNA go with you on Dow man. I'm down. I'll I'll go in there and we'll go in there and we'll do it has to do and get a good workout and and and you know I wanNA exit really experienced that because you know It's great being at home where you have it in your jam him or something like that. But you know to actually be in class I think that would push me more. And maybe I you know my numbers would would go up higher and stuff like that because I'm always challenging myself to get better every day. Well I'd like to do that with you. Let's let's talk a little football. Some of their current Dave receivers who is the wide receiver today. Jerry that most impress you man. You got a lot of young guys coming up. But it's still. Julio Jones wants to me bad Julio Jones you know This guy I think around about twelve thousand yards already. He was the fastest. We'll get to luke twenty thousand and I think he's only going to get better because they fear sizes spe- His jumping ability. And and he's he's one of those guys that believes in his crap where you know you can't cover me one on one so I think he's only going to get better. Is there a young receiver. Not that Julio's not young. He's relatively young but young wide receiver in this game. That you look at that impresses you well you look at Hopkins Out of the taxes accents and stuff like that Deebo Samuel I. I like him with the niners. Because of his physicality and stuff like that and he's one of those guys has that Wanna get yards after the catch and I was one of those guys that weren't to do the same thing so yeah there's a lot of young receiver you know even You know element element You know what he's doing with the Patriots and stuff like that you know because the game atom changed a lot now You GotTa think about you. Oh you don't see that hard bumping Ron Anymore and you don't you know you got to That feels the Dow feel. You don't see that anymore. You you know when I played the game You've had to fight for everything. I mean. It was going to be physical all the way down. Feel and You know I really. I preferred it that way because it it really helped me know exactly what it'd be back as Addie now is able to come out on my cuts and and catch the football. We'll have more with Hall Fame Wide Receiver Jerry Rice in a moment but first a word from vivid seats. 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He was traded to the raiders. What do you think? His Future Holt at my read on no man. There's a lot going. No I think you you know because you've got to think with The New Orleans saints you know they work them out but for some reason They decided to go in a different direction. And you know when he was with The Oakland Raiders He was doing well there. But then everything just went downhill and he goes to the Patriots. I I think he's amazing Football player. But I don't know if people really GONNA want to put up with Those headaches that's that's it you know With them being a distraction to the team. And but you know when he's on that football filming and he's an animal and I think he could the some great things You know put a patriots this year. I also want to ask you about Tom Brady. You're a guy that played in the NFL. For twenty years. Jerry and you you finish your career which I think. A lot of people wind up forgetting in other teams other than San Francisco. Played with the raiders. You play with the seahawks. You even spent time in Broncos training camp in two thousand five. When I don't know if you remember this I was pestering you? Then I was covering the Broncos back then and I got to see Jerry Rice and Trinity in two thousand five which is something. I'll never forget. What would it be like for Tom? Brady could you envision Tom Brady playing for another team. you know I gotta you because you never know because Montana you know running a lot you know joe to me is one of the greatest quarterback play the the game. It's the same thing with Tom Brady now. Does he still have that fire in him to want to still play Is there You know is there like An opportunity still with the New England patriots. Or if he wants to go somewhere else to WHO You know pursued at. That was something that I that I had to do. Because you know how it's done in San Francisco The only thing I could have done was like retired but I still had a lot of football emmy and I still wanted to compete. That's why I went to the Oakland Raiders. So it's hard for me to say that you know you know if he's GonNa leave or if he's going to retire It's GONNA be up to him to make that decision. What do you think will happen if you had to guess? Now I don't know I I wish I I you know I wish I had this This ball is crystal ball or something like that. got to see exactly what might happen down a row. But I think it's GONNA come down to Tom Brady and his Decision He he has done so many great things and and You know with the new New England Patriots and You know he's the face of that franchise You Oh so. If if that franchise is ready to go in a different direction now or if they feel like you know that hey we oldest guy the respect is back that you know we should let him come back for a couple more years so we have to watch and see how this is going to unfold but you know what a amazing career career that this guy already had now geographer league. I need to ask you about the gold jacket. Club you're hosting experience Kerry champion Hall of fame experiences. Which is the official experienced provider of the pro football hall of fame for enshrinement weak? And for those who are interested fans can buy the packages at H. O. F. EXPERIENCES DOT COM COM H F experiences DOT COM. What what fans be getting if they get the chance to purchase a package like this? You know chalk talk a meet and greet. That's the most important thing to me because my always try to make myself available you know for my fans and I'm excited about that being a host and also you know being there with Carey Champion We're going to have a great time. There's GonNa be some other Hall of Famers there you know Emmett Smith and also Barry Sanders. They have hosted this event. So I'm excited. You know just to let the let the people know that we're human and You know it's like It's going to be so much fun because when you think about it it's going to be the hardest tailgate in Miami Great Food Music all of those things so it's GonNa be At the guy got you know it's GonNa be at the Gulfstream Park Casino and race track so there's a lot going I'm already getting pumped up about an atom and stuff like that you know because anytime I can make myself available for my fan. Dan I always look forward to that. Did I hear that right Jerry. Rice is human. Did I hear that. Yeah Yeah we are. We are that bad in and You know for so many years it was all about the fans that that gave me that inspiration that go out there and be the best football player that I could possibly be. Ah I'LL BET and I just hope I didn't let them down. Well I didn't let them down. You didn't let me down today now. We'll see whether the forty niners will come through. And now let you down down with your prediction of them. Going to the Super Bowl. Yeah they're not GonNa let me down. I'll be right down there on that deal This coming Saturday and you know get My my teammates. All well my My team all wired up out of it. You hear me my teammates you. You still feel like you're part of it right. You feel like you're part of it and stuff like that but you know it's all about those guys right now and and I'm I'm really gonNA GONNA be there for support. And what will you say to them on the field before the Game Jerry because we were on the field before the Monday night game against Seattle. And it's like you're a part of the team there and the fans love the organization loves you. Everybody loves you. What were you what will be your message to the players this Saturday? Well this is your show. This is all about you. Guys right now is not what about the old forty niners anything like that. This is about the new generation of guys and this is the time to put a mark and on Levi's stadium and it's what you're going to do doing this ball game you know. Are you going to completely buy into it. Sell Out Have confidence in each other other knowing that you got each other's back and stuff like that. Get ready to play this football game with one heartbeat. If you do that you're GonNa win this game and you get ready for the next one damn. I'm ready to run them. Hills here right now. Okay Jerry really appreciate the time thank you so much pleasure. Hope Our paths cross again soon and thank you for the time today. Yeah Adam Peleton and you buddy you gotta let me know. Honestly I'm Jerry. I'm down in. Let me know when you're going to be in New York and I'm GonNa meet you there. We're GONNA have a great spin class together. It sounds good. You Take Care Okay Dude. Your nose is bleeding. Yeah I think I might still be believing what happened. I thought I had good seats in a game that was stuck in the four hundred. That was three days ago. They were super high. Yup I felt like I was summoning Everest. Look next time just go to vivid seats. Tickets are one hundred percent authentic and you can even see where your seat is before you buy. It can't believe I'm going to say this your genius. Well well you welcome I kind of am. We're on the earn ten minutes. Maybe we should get that Kleenex out of your nose joining us now the thirteen year. NFL veteran who announced his retirement after the bills wildcard loss at Houston. Lorenzo Alexander. Renzo thank you very very much for taking time today much appreciated. My pleasure fishers own Adam. Well here's my question for you. How does a guy who is an undrafted drafted free agent in two thousand five? That goes to training camp with the Carolina Panthers with nobody in Carolina expecting much of anything have long. NFL career that just winds up now where he's a two time pro bowl player the defensive mvp of the two thousand seventeen pro bowl played in the final title. Ninety six games of your career the second longest active streak among linebackers. Before your time on Saturday. Five Time Walter. Payton man of the year nominee including get your last three seasons in Buffalo. How does all that happen? Drafted free agent from five. I mean in my mind is only God's house blessings and and what I mean by that is he's put Great people in my life. You know really starting to at an early age and I have my father's house but he tried them all. Steve Foods my coach coach really played that role and create a great foundation in from there. I can name numerous coaches and players that really poured into my life. My career's headed handed off. The field. probably highlighted probably by Danny special teams coach in Washington. and also run the Fletcher. I had opportunity play with your washing for quite a long time but amongst those men there were many of these Just really helped me out and I think from my perspective was I really grew up in those first couple of years. Because I think like most NFL athletes. You've been the man your whole life. The whole life visit me. I didn't get drafted so that was worse than that in the face and I got a couple of times and so that really may motivated. Ovadia meal really gave me a different perspective on what I needed to do to raise my game professionalism to another level in order to give myself an opportunity just to get a chance to get on the A C or make the team and so with that I took advantage of it And again just always trying to stay coach always trying to learn and try to grow each and every single year a year even as I made the transition to multiple position and just never got complacent at route was at because I saw a lot of guys come in with a lot of great talent but didn't end Achieving what they set out to do so I tried to take note of those things learn from mistakes and not make it my own and also taking things from my God. Like I say they your money Fletcher at Your Car Williams Just list goes on and on with guys all save caliber guys even issue with Frank Gore that you get to be around and learn from and so I think good. That's what Really allowed me to take you know a very humble beginnings almost no chance no shock ever make it and turn it into a fruitful and productive reductive NFL career. I'd say and you mentioned some incredible men. There Larry Fitzgerald London Fletcher Frank Gore examples of professionalism. Analyst is about and this year Lorenzo. There will be a bunch of players who go undrafted. What would you say to the guys who go to training camp camp without being drafted who are long shots? What would you recommend to them willing to make the team into an NFL career? So there's two Beta stays because You know obviously I've had a lot of guys had mentioned some guys and from my own experience I would say One check your ego because you no longer the man Dan You have to humble yourself and and and the great ones that you see. Do it So you need to be comfortable because what your college or high school is not necessarily GonNa work at this level or awesome at a total different technique. That you want you to learn. That's going to be conducive to their system. Or whatever they sound guys be successful throughout their coaching career And then number number to take care of the things that you can control Don't walk in there with an entitled mindset of what you would maybe gotten away with in college as far as maybe being late not working out to your full potential Maybe missing some classes have been a little Lazy as far as your mannerisms and how you approach your tasks that your coaches ask ask transcend ask you to do whether it's Rehab or lifting weights Approach like a professional. Like you would want somebody to treat you like the people that are working for you show up all the time one hundred percent effort do extra ask questions figure out the why and then talk to vetter leaves that are in that locker role with and try to you. Know get an indication of what allowed them to play seven eight nine plus years and lead and Really become their shadow. And if you're able to do those three the things is definitely going to increase your chances of making that team because oftentimes is coaches coaches. Want the best players. Don't play on Sunday. They won't guys that they can trust left because obviously their job is at stake too and live and die with production player so if you can gain their trust they're going to give you an opportunity and then it's up to you at that point you take the skills and the skills that they have have helped you with they make the most of it. So what led you to retire at this point time because it certainly looks like you could still play Lorenzo. You had twenty four sacks the last four seasons they still count on you as a leader. I mean you're thirty six years old. You probably could've kept playing if you wanted. Why retire now I think it comes a point. Everybody's career we really sit down and do a self evaluation of where you're at As far as professional career they weren't you had as far as life outside of football and for me Family I hold in very high regard. I've been married for twelve years in January. We take we have four beautiful kids and and and because of the blesses football is giving me is giving me a lot of freedom or bell playing football financially relationships ships as far as other avenues. I WanNa do and All the reasons at this point to come back and play for selfish reasons to continue the field my passions advised vides far as being a football player. You know to feed my ego but as far as people recognize it as sociology with being NFL linebacker. And so the reason why I really stepping away. So it's the play a supportive role in my family Really be there with my kids and be able to do at a high level quality of life Because I house as you said I'm thirty six you start playing thirty seven thirty eight in the way I play through the Kennedy. You continue to put yourself at risk obviously additional head issues news Concussions C. T. and then also You know knees hips auto little things that people tend to take for granted you know because right now this this past season it's hard for me to wrestle with my sons. Go out play. Whom for this? You know mess around because I'm sore grumpy and I don't WanNa be like that so it really was a just taking a self evaluation of what I want to be. What I think is really important especially at this age is I have kids in the House at eleven nine and five and because I have an older daughter is in college I know it goes by extremely fast and so I want to be there and really enjoy these these These glory days of being there in of their childhood And I don't know if you've got to see my daughter perform national answer. But she did an awesome job so I just want to be around fast in those moments in their lives whether I literally hoops literally football or My daughter acting and being at her place and not be able to miss any of it. So that's kind of rhyme at and Al Ed in the stage of my career and top of that they you know enjoy The foods that me and my wife have sacrificed for the last fifteen years. And they'll they'll be able to travel a little bit they've got some time It really just grow in Have some increase memories away from the game. Good for you on all those things. I got a couple things that you said that just triggered immediate thoughts from you. Lorenzo number one. You said your daughter with the national anthem doing a great job. Did she say me after that. I miss something on Saturday when she started the national national anthem so my wife had kind of indication that this is the most likely to be our last year or so back in June. She team My youngest daughter Zoey would would would be able to sing the national anthem. And so she bay surprise me We play the jets. My last home game with her singing the national anthem and there was a beautiful thing my teammates. He makes two years and so it was just a a cool Atmosphere in a An experienced a half you know. Have One of your children sing the national anthem and do such a great job in Boston. I didn't even know that she's saying that is an unbelievable thing. I thought you meant in Houston on Saturday to the wildcard game. And I'm like I didn't see a five year old girl. Okay good okay. So we're good there and that's an unbelievable way to go out and your final regular season game now. Here's another question you mentioned. You have a daughter in college lick. So you're six years old. How old were you when you became a dead? I became a dad when I met my wife when I was twenty four and I my wife Dr from the previous relationship but I don't differentiate let somebody asks me. But that's that's how I have a daughter that's twenty four and I'm thirty six by the same thing armor. Yeah I married a woman who had a child with a man who lost his life unfortunately tragically at nine eleven. And I don't think of him as my steps and I think it was my son or your daughter. I'm sure exactly. That's that's how we operate that that's the way to go. So what you mentioned all those things a lot of family time. Is there anything that you want to do professionally speaking still in the next chapter of your life. Yeah there's some things I definitely have opportunity to. Do you know since I've been look up. I'll definitely kind of branched off into the broadcasting world Done a lot of BDO JUST TV or radio. And I really enjoy that obviously keeps you around the game engaged about Bill goes additional relationships and I continue to do something at least speak about something that I love. So we'll see what I do. Something Phoenix There's several other outlets out out there. That are have a chance to at least have anything with You know probably really start down here at immediate role during the Super Bowl So I'm looking forward to that as well then I have some other things think I would do with my foundation for their kids as well while vomit these transition processes well so Couple of things on the horizon and kind of have to take time handed out and for those who don't know you establish the Aces Foundation. Were your mission is to support you through emphasizing accountability taking on the community striving driving for educational excellence while promoting a healthy mind body and spirit through sports. That I get that right Lorenzo. Yes absolutely correct. I mean those are the really the four pillars of my life go to allow me to be successful and I'm just trying to embark in transition that same type wisman pay for it to the next generation especially in households. That don't have a father father or or you know maybe with grandparents or don't have the economic resources in the gain access and just trying to fill the gaps where I can and doing different programs have different collaborations in various cities that I've been in so that's really the past and My True Passion is you're serving comed- especially young women that come from neighborhoods That that I grew up in which is what. What kind of neighborhood did you grow up in an offer from California inner see Grit with a single parent. Bob Did excellent the job but Obviously awful stepped in as well but I mean I have cousins that you know what the prison you know selling dope gang violence shootings and so That's obviously the ideal situation to raise a kid up in affiliates to really overcome environment. And so I just try to provide resources programming and enhance. What other people have already are already doing To help these these young people Because oftentimes you can identify yourself and be identified the other people people by where you come from and I'M A testament to and most of other guys come from Oakland and similar In the cities is that we all have the ability the overcome that we have a great spirit inside of us that it's not a fair but of loved powder sound mind and you have the right people cultivating that in you. You can achieve great things and not get caught up the shortsightedness of what some some of the other things may bring you immediately. You know as far as maybe money women cars and stuff that does not really legacy based aced inside is try to help people obviously with the the resources but also they mind and and how they view their perspective on the world and and who they are and how they fit in. How did you manage to avoid similar pitfalls that other family members did not get through I mentioned I mean markle Stephen Moore Probably the most vital figuring that because he plays that father figure role he'll never claim to that. But that's the way I look at it in the way I love him and especially because he had the three daughters had his own family and being a family man now. There's no how much time it takes to now. Added additional trout. That you really care about the poor into and then amongst other her Coaches that I had I even had a cousin that was that was in that lifestyle to really step up and didn't allow me to even partaking any of it and when he was a couple years older than me and then he used to always threaten it. And if I catch you out here streets It's GonNa be me and you and so he was bigger our scared in a sense and so I have a lot of Gratitude for what he did for me as well now not fighting the answer that push me away and so I've just been blessed to have people like that to really look for me Special in my life and so that's how they would avoid you know wasn't because I was just great person but I have people standing in the right direction. Those men did a great job. And more important you did a great job and you're to be commended. I mean it's just outstanding the career that you've put together the impact that you've had the life's the lives that you've helped shape ape. All those things is testament to you. And it's while you're a five-time Walter Payton manning year nominee including each of the last received with the bills. Well how do you know win that award. It's been great man every year. I mean you think about the guys that have been up for it. I mean Thomas Davis if his Gerald Who Chris Long Win it last year? I mean so there's a lot of guys film in A lot of great men in our league in I think that oftentimes gets overlooked. So it's just it's just cool to be a nominee and represent. Obviously they made him a little bit represent the man in our league and all the great work that we do and so I know we have Several guys that are beginning this year that have been a lifelong committed to the community. Not Think about a car. Rudolph back up a Richard Sherman Guys that I know and in really respected. So you know it's great to win it but We're all doing great work regardless of who comes home with the award right. You're all winners. But it would be great if you can win it in your final. NFL season this year. Be Awesome I mean obviously brings additional resources to the Buffalo in Oakland community and so it would be great to have that recognition. You know kind of Augosto on me. You bring up the Buffalo in Oakland communities. Where will you live now that you're NFL careers over? Yeah we actually being PHOENIX I had I played a couple of years. There Really love that area. I've seen more for the most part year round. You know being an old beat up guys always great to wake up to some warmth For your joints cost of living. Great is a lot of. NFL players have a lot of plant. That have That was ideal now and so we have like a natural community. Kind kind of built up for us Because that is the hardest thing that you transition is the locker room aspect that you get every single day and so it's great to kind of have that kind of already set up In the Phoenix Area Force. And so we're very excited about that. That move and getting out there and here in the next couple of weeks or I love that area. That's a great area and yeah you have to get around the golfing often. which is some point or something like that I know how do you play? Yeah I play a little bit. I'm a lot more than I've done. I know because it's it's hard to get out there. Walker course swing when club. I used to be so all the time so I'm looking forward to it. You know early in the podcast ahead on Jerry Rice. We made a plan to go to the peleton studios in New York City together. I want to make a plan with Lorenzo Alexander Zander to play around the golf with him at some point time. When are you gonNA go penalty to? That's all that stuff. I got one at the House. Oh isn't it awesome and Jerry and I were talking about that. Who who's your favorite instructor? I love Alex. Probably Ali love those are my to go to I'm Robin in there for a while but when I really want to get after this is Alex Tucson is the man right on another wait on another level. Yeah he's phenomenal. Nama and you know what it was funny. One day I was on there and he responded to one of my instagram stories. And I'm like Alex to set the man himself responding to one of my stories though he was a big throw. wrote for me right. Yeah yeah that's don't right there and he. It was pretty neat this year. That okay before I let you go. Lorenzo I have to ask you your thoughts on this buffalo bills team. I'm a bitter loss on Saturday. One of these years the fans there will get the joy of winning another playoff game. But what do you think the future holds for this buffalo bills those team in the direction. It's now under what the players it has. The organization is definitely prime to repeat what we did this year having that success and take it the next step and win a playoff game and the reason why I say that is because of this. The young talent that is on that team you know. Kind of headline biopsy Josh challenge balanced me damage. Your baby is white and then you have better Georgia Mike. Hi I'm GonNa have guys like John Brown coming back co Beasley off. The line is going to be solidified over. They bring us Spain Spain back. And what all those guys. I'm naming the young roderick talented guys. I like that year. We went to the playoffs in two thousand seventy. We're we're kind of like a a mosh bag of these players and talent kind of piece together and we were able to you know because we have to at least make this team Sean and prime to be together for at least three to four years And so with the cat room that they're gonNA have this year and then the way that the Scott Department of the coaching staff Evaluating wait and bring in players free agency as well as draft is. They're gonNA make some. I know they're gonNA make the right moves and ask them to help them Get over that Hump and really really be a a real contented sheer by beating those elite teams in the regular season. They take that to the playoffs with a playoff game. So that's kind of my prediction. Just kind of looking at it. You inside knowing how shot is built the team culture and just how the guys have responded and so there won't be any drop off because I'm not there because I've had impact my power. Wheels had an impact on me with the men in there and I see several guys stepping up the field for which need on the team really bring everybody together especially to deal with adversity in Definitely exceed what we did this before. Legal Lorenzo what do you think it will be like when you sit down at your home in Phoenix next September to watch your first. NFL game probably the Buffalo Bills Reaction as you. Watch your former team. Go to work without you. I it probably a little bitter sweet Obviously I love to go out there and compete but I know what it feels like Monday through Saturday. On my body so I'll be happy in one. Regard is sad adding another But I'll definitely be happy rooting for him so I'm not Quite hit me yet because right now. It's Kinda like regular season schedule so I don't have a couple apple hurdles April then training camp with hopefully by then transition but Definitely rooting for those guys and definitely Instead if the success that if they have next year and what if somebody calls you in August September. We've an injury. We needed to replace help by doing that. They call him an like sound John. I might come off. The fence Marchand Hall Trail Game. That's Mike I it's not get a playoff game or maybe in the first round by I can come back for three games the AFC championship in the Super Bowl. That's that's probably all. I got left in me so that you do that you do that. You're open to yeah. I would do that if they called me. And they needed somebody body Off the best like that okay. I'm putting that on the ESPN bottom line. Lorenzo Alexander is open to return to twenty twenty one season for a playoff run for a contending team. No no for the bills for the bills just for the bills rials. Let's make that perfectly clear. We got all the conditions under which what you would call very very particular requirements varies. Fake News come off the bench for well. I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA keep that in mind next season if buffalo happens to suffer a key injury at linebacker or to a special teams player. I'M GONNA keep you in mind. So we'll we'll keep that in mind. We'll keep our golf match. gotcha mind perhaps. We'll take a spin class together with Alex and Lorenzo congratulate you on an outstanding career. A more than what you did for the Buffalo Bills and the Oakland Raiders and the Arizona Cardinals. The Washington redskins the four teams. That you played four for thirteen seasons was the work that you did for various people in various communities tremendous job. And I wish you luck in the Walter Peyton Man of the year award. I'm rooting for you to Super Bowl. No disrespect to any of the other nominees. I appreciate your brother Man. 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That's ZIPRECRUITER DOT COM slash A. S. P. ZIPRECRUITER DOT com slash. ASP's SP's Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire cap hit we now welcome in ESPN analytics Guru. Evan Kaplan welcome back from the holiday holiday. Break Evan. Happy New Year. Let's dive into this weekend's divisional playoff games if that works out okay for you having your usual or it's Saturday. Four thirty thirty five eastern Vikings at forty niners. How do we break down this matchup? This one you have to start the quarterbacks here and we know the history with with Kirk cousins and Kyle Shanahan who he played with Kyle Shanahan was Shanahan was the OC and cousins first years in Washington and certainly there were talks talks that cousins would potentially go out there to become the forty niners quarterback when Shanahan got the head coaching job. Now you look at Kirk cousins. Jimmy Garoppolo this season both completed sixty nine point one percent of their passes Jimmy Garoppolo through twenty seven touchdowns cousins twenty six cousins had a total. QBR Fifty eight point eight Garoppolo a QBR of fifty fifty eight point seven. You look at both teams built around the running game play action passing you see a lot of similarities between these two teams but what really stands out for me at him for this Sunday is which offensive line can stop the defensive lines pass. I think that will be the key to this game. We saw in the wildcard playoffs in New Orleans Orleans however soon griffin and Denise Hunter they completely threw the saints off their game without offense early in the game the saints eventually got their footing but I think the the early disruption of drew brees completely threw the saints off base. The forty niners have a similar Impressive pass rush when you look in. Nick Boza Eric. Armstead deforest buckner. I think and as we go through these four-match all kind of give a key for each one. I think that will be the key Saturday afternoon. which offense of line can stop the opposing pass rush? I think I think that's going to be the case again. And who. Who has the advantage? Well I think that look I. It'll be tough for the vikings to be two thirteen win teams on the road. We've never seen that happen in the wild card and the divisional round. It's happened later on in the playoffs. The start a playoff run beating two thirteen win teams. I think the forty niners will do enough to slowdown hunter and Griffin and they'll move on to the NFC championship over there. It is. Wow that's quite a prediction right there. What do you disagree why I think you have to favor? The forty niners. Just think about it like this seven. The Vikings went into New Orleans. Tough physical game Short we travelled very short week. Travel back Have to go to the coast now right and Kyle Shanahan two weeks. That's a problem for anybody. I just think that he's going to be able to move that football. Although I will say I. It's hard as it is physically on. Wildcard Wildcard teams to play that much. I think we've seen an awful lot. Sometimes a team wins in the wild Koran and really gets a lot of momentum and carries it right into the divisional original run. And that's something that every one of these home teams this weekend. I think has to watch out for. I agree completely and especially in the case of team like the Vikings who didn't end the season on the greatest no week sixteen on Monday night football. We saw that disappointing performance against the packers. They sat most of their starters in week. Seventeen so it was only came into the playoffs with a ton of momentum but then they have gained leaned all that momentum with the upset win over the St.. So I agree with you. I think they could become and also keep this in mind. This is Jimmy Garoppolo's first career playoff start as great eight as the forty niners have been all season as impressive has he's been especially later in the season. This is first career playoff start. We know what happens. Sometimes when quarterbacks get onto those bright lights in the postseason choses how he's GonNa play. We have no body of evidence to compare it to so we will find out Saturday. Four thirty five and the Vikings play at San Francisco an early start in the bay area one thirty thirty five Pacific Time that night. We have the titans at the Ravens. Eight fifteen eastern. How do we break down this match? Bevin this'll be fun and I think this is really gives. Is this kind of old school field with this game when you talk about the running games right so the NFL's leading rusher and Derrick Henry who we saw what he did in the wildcard round against the Patriots against the quarterback Lamar Jackson who will win the NFL MVP and broke the record for quarterback rushing yards in a season the ravens led the NFL rushing. The titans were third the teams combined for more than fifty fifty five hundred rushing yards this season. which is crazy so you talk about a key in this game? It'll be who's going to stop the run better. I mean I think that will have a direct effect on. WHO's GonNa win if the titans can go in there and slowdown? Lamar Jackson. Impressive Ravens running. They'll they'll have a chance. I don't know that they can do it though. Yeah you know it's interesting. Is Lamar Jackson. Accent is the MVP of the season but there can we might be the MVP of the past month now the second straight year that he's gotten better stronger as years. Go on and it's almost like a big body running back like that defenders don't want as much of a part of him later. In the year he gets stronger. Everyone gets more tired. And that works the advantage of somebody's big and toughest Derrick mckenry absolutely and and you look at him with yards after contact as well leads the NFL. In addition to the total rushing yards. And as you said tough for him mm to tackle he put up a great performance in the wildcard around. But I think sometimes what people are forgetting. What the Ravens with with all the The the deserved hysteria around Lamar Jackson. That is this defense was third in the NFL. In scoring defense. I remember we talked back before free agency before the two thousand nineteen draft about all the defensive players players at the Ravens lost the dairy Smith and Terrell suggs and Eric Wetland. Cj Moseley well. They've retooled that defense a lot of which is since the the the trade for Marcus. Peters who has really short things up on the back end and that even they blitz a ton fifty four percent of dropbox they're sending a blitz which is by far the highest rate we've seen in the last decade and third and scoring defense that speaks speaks volume so this is a balanced team. There's a reason they won. Fourteen Games Adam Right. It wasn't just on one side of the ball so the titans they beat the Patriots. I think it's GonNa be a tough task for them to go on a Baltimore and win again. I agree with that. I think this Baltimore team has just rolling along. It's it's a great team. They've won twelve straight games. Last time they lost with September twenty ninth. I agree with you. I swear. Tough out for the Tennessee. Titans on Saturday night Baltimore's just rolling right now. What what about on Sunday? Let's shift our attention to Texans at chiefs three. Oh five eastern Sunday. What we make that match up this is going to be a fun game? I think with the Shawn Watson Patrick Mahomes the second career meeting between them. They met earlier this season week. Six when the Texans went in there and one we talked about the similarities between the before that game they continue now now they were born three days apart they have the same number of touchdown passes this season. They were both named to the pro bowl. And we'll talk about key in this game. It's going to be. which team can slow down the opposing quarterback when the play breaks down over the last two seasons they have the most completions and the NFL? When they're under pressure? Mahomes one Watson too so that what is going to be critical in terms of when this play breaks down which defense has a as does a better job of slowing down the quarterback. How much credence do you put into the fact that Houston Houston were able to beat Kansas City earlier in the season? I think because of where the game was the fact that it was at Arrowhead. I put something into it because we know they weren't as good at home this season as they've been in in some years past but that's one of the toughest places to play in the NFL. So the fact that Shawn Watson in only his third year in the NFL was able to go in there and get a win. They put up thirty one points. It should have been more if you remember the game. They dropped the Andre Hopkins and will fuller both had a couple of drops. It could have been touchdown so that was a seven point. Join Gaming could have been much worse so that was a game. The Texans really dominated. I think psychologically when you go into a place that's tough to play. That historically has a great home field advantage having a winner earlier this season. I think it means a lot. You know it's interesting. I don't think it could be completely dismissed. Look Seattle went into Philadelphia early this year And won the game seventeen nine. They go back in the playoffs in seventeen again score. I was wild. Okay so I mean that's that's just how those two teams matched up I know Carson Wentz got hurt on Sunday and that change Dineh but it's the same score twice with two teams right so there has to be something that tells me. The Houston is capable of going in there and playing your gate good game. I'm not telling you that the Texans are GonNa win the game. But they're capable of playing good enough to be competitive and have have a chance to beat the chiefs in Arrow doesn't this feels a little bit like like a chiefs here though just and there's no there's no and and the defense yes much better in the last six games they've given up. They've allowed eleven and a half points per game that's the best in the NFL from week. Eleven to seventeen. Yes yes. It's easy to get wrapped up in Patrick Mahomes and the offense and Kelsey inhale and everybody but this defense and there's no patriots just just feels to me like this might be a year that Andy Reid gets back to the Super Bowl. I don't disagree with that and it sets up a potential. AFC Championship game. That would be unbelievable. Again that's no disrespect to Houston Tennessee. They've had great seasons and they will have a chance this week and they can pull the upset good for them right but we got the. We've the ravens is a heavy favourite. We've got the chiefs heavy favourite. We'll see if the heavy favorites can live up to what Vegas expects of them and set a great AFC championship game all right. The final game aim of divisional playoff weekend Seattle Akron Bay six forty eastern Sunday night. What are we make? Whatever this one you've got the two quarterbacks left left in this playoff that that has some experience as opposed to the six others Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson with nine wins each in their postseason careers. You'll get the six other quarterbacks they've combined for four wins so this there's experience here. They both won super bowls. It's the eighth meeting including the playoffs. Between Wilson Rogers. The home team has won all all seven of the previous meetings. Russell Wilson's never won at Lambeau field. But the thing to counter that Wilson has been great in his career against Super Bowl winners. Fifteen and six against super bowl winning quarterback as the best winning percentage among quarterbacks with at least ten starts in the Super Bowl era so this one the there's is a Lotta great history. These teams have been involved in some historical matchups in the NFC championship. Back in two thousand fourteen. The packers had a huge lead in Seattle sixteen. Nothing seahawks REBA comeback. I'm back advanced to the Super Bowl again. This this this one this I. It's almost fitting right that this is the last match of the weekend because it'll you'll kind of build up off to it right. You've got a lot of other quarterbacks other making their first start or the second star trying to advance their first maybe conference championship. And then you end the weekend with Lambofield divisional round to super bowl winning quarterbacks just has that gives you that that good feel about the visual weekend right viterbese Sunday night to be cold. Dark and yet. Russell Wilson going back to Wisconsin and the one. The Seattle is the have been a better road team than they've been a home team this year. There ain't one on Sunday. They're eight and one on the road. Exactly Y- been. They've been extraordinarily tough and and the whole narrative about West coach teams. Not being able to travel doesn't doesn't Work for them. They're they're only. The one loss was on the west coast against the rams in Los Angeles so anytime they've really had to travel time. They've won this season. I don't think that's going to be what what prevents them from. Winning this game against the packers. Hey ever really appreciate the breakdown of the divisional regional matchups games this weekend. She'd be a gray weekend. We'll look forward to talking to you to review those games this weekend and to preview the Conference Championship Games on next week's podcast guest things out. I'm looking forward to it and so there's ESPN analytics Guru. Evan Kaplan special. Thanks to him. Special thanks to the outstanding former Buffalo Bills Linebacker Lorenzo Alexander as he ventures into the next chapter of his life. And I'm sure great. Things await him much as they awaited him any experience them during his great thirteen eighteen year. NFL career and special thanks to the greatest wide receiver. We've ever seen play the game Jerry Rice for breaking down what it's like in the bay area and looking ahead to the forty forty niners matchup this weekend and special. Thanks to you the listener for tuning into another Adam Schefter podcast. Please join us again next week when we look ahead to the conference championship around and we're joined by the great dolphins legend Dan Marino. Who will talk about what awaits the the teams that go to the Super Bowl in Miami this year? Thanks for listening this week. Everybody talked to you next week.

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Jerry Rice, Russ Wilson MVP + Guys on Chicks

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Jerry Rice, Russ Wilson MVP + Guys on Chicks

"On today's part in my take the goat Jerry Rice in studio awesome conversation with him. We also have some Monday night. Football one of the best football games of the season hotseat cool thrown the astros are cheating and it is disgusting and because it is Wednesday we have guys on chicks. Pardon my take is brought to you by the cash APP cash. Simple sweet ascend. Spend and save money announced simplest way to try to grow. Oh your money. Introducing cash APP investing unlike investing tools. That only let you buy whole shares of a stock cash epaulettes you purchase slices of shares. This way when your favorite company's stock is just a little too expensive you can still own a piece with as little as one dollar and because cash APP is directly connected to your bank account. There are no forty five day waiting periods for inbound transfer so you can start investing today brokerage services are provided cash APP investing a subsidiary of Square member. 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I don't know chugged a room temperature. natty light I was hoping we were going to get a time. We're getting close to a tyler on Monday night. It was a great game though. Russell Wilson the the MVP now forefront of the MVP race. Even though he threw interception in overtime that people will just forgetting and also played hot potato with the the ball and gave it to his linemen in the worst he that was so bad how he just sold out his lineman just handing him the ball ditty handed to them or was he getting stripped and then it just just bounced right here. You take this. I mean the biggest story of the night I thought was saving a cloudy. Cloudy was up She didn't sharp Jake Lowney on cloudy. Yes she's looking for a new nickname so much so that the Shawn Watson was tweeting about how much he loved them and misses him yes and misses him but yeah no no. You're right. Digit Judy van cloudy. That was like his coming out game as a seahawk and it was a fantastic game. It feels like the NFC west is going to be a race. They play play one more time in Seattle. It's going to be a fun race down the stretch. I think you walked away from that game. Having questions about the forty niners offense not the I mean they can run on anyone. The Jimmy Garoppolo like big moments and that ended the game. He was just looking to throw an interception to someone. All the fourth quarter OV- over time he was like two interceptions. That were dropped a couple of other balls that maybe could have been intercepted. They were missing. George kill though. Yeah Great Kid. who was not in there? They kept on showing him. Yeah Greg Crazy in the in the in the box so that is a big loss. Because he's probably the best tight end in the NFL but this was like the game that it that the forty niners are undefeated. Everyone's wondering if they're for real and they are but they have actually a pretty tough schedule going down the stretch will the entire. NFC West Soon not only the niners the seahawks to end the rams the all play like a shitload a really really good team so my biggest question the other big question coming out of it. Are We mad at Joe. Tessa tore for for being mean to a kicker was the moment too big for Joe testimony was too big he said so McLaughlin. I think I'm saying his name correctly. Chain Shane actually chasing Jason. He's basically a Shane. Somehow the forty niners tweeted this but somehow the forty niners have two kickers better than the bears. Kickers one being an expert and the other being an ally. But I hi digress. And so he makes a huge kicked take them into overtime like a fifty yarder then. He misses the one to win in overtime. ENJO territory goes. The moment was too big for After the moment had just been perfectly fine it's just kickers miss and so people got mad at Joe Test Tour. I hi actually think I'm down what you're saying that because it was so dramatic being like the moment is too big It's a Monday night game in both. These teams are probably going to play offs. Yeah they'll be fine in the long run. The the seahawks are very very good. The niners are also very very good. I thought that in overtime Kyle Shanahan's playcalling was very interesting doing so the niners get the ball back after that interception. They had an opportunity to I mean they could have melted out and walked away with the type very easy but they threw the ball all three straight times. I believe Clark stops seahawks. Get the ball back seahawks. Come back and win the game. This is actually a battle of the two coaches that have lost super bowls because they passed when they should have run right and it almost happened to both right. P. Carol called that play got an interception cow Shanahan called called a bunch of past plays when he could have run the clock out yeah and then ended up losing so which team has learned less. which coach has learned less from their defeat at the hands of the Patriots? How how `Bout Russell Wilson saying it was the craziest games ever played it? Kind of weird. The seahawks just playing these weird games. He's played in super bowls. He I mean He. The the Oregon Rose Bowl that he played in was the most points ever in the first quarter in a rose boy was insane like he's played in some crazy games. I'm not saying that this is the Rose Bowl. I'm nothing this. The rose bowl is bigger than this but he played in a lot of crazy games. So that's kind of a weird thing for him to say but Yeah he's Russell Wilson. I think I said there's a couple of weeks ago. But he is for my money. The number one guy and I know it kind of spits in the face of the fact that he threw an interception. He is the one guy who I would want trust. What's the most with the ball down late in fourth? It was good interception though so it pending deep in theory if they had the tackle yeah I agree. Yeah even when he makes a bad throw it was the right throw to make at the time. It was only the second air. Sectional Year is guy was open on it. He threw an interception that happens from time to time. Russell Wilson's fucking ridiculous. And I I would be terrified to be rooting against him at the end of the game. Running passing whatever it is. He is the guy who can make the most happen late in the game and it just feels like I don't know what it is but there's certain levels that athletes get to where when the seahawks are in third long or fourth and long. I'm just like yeah. They'll get it when they're in thirty short. I'm Mike Russell. Probably throw a fifty yard touchdown here just to fuck everyone up. I don't think I just expect that I thought was going to go for it. When it was fourth and two at Midyear Adiala aside and said they punted the ball away? I love Monday night football. I love overtime. What are you going to say but oh I hate overtimes make you just continue snacking? So if you're sitting down watching the game you have your buffalo wings. You have your pizza. Whatever as the game goes longer it goes over time buffalo wings on abundant? I'm saying in theory. Do this is GonNa say that's an aggressive popsicles. And then I had put the bottom line is overtime starts. You have to go to another snack. You have to bring out your overtime chips your overtime GUAC. I brought up my overtime like it was like Jalapeno crackers or whatever they were it makes you snack more and you have to open another beer overtime overtime beers drinking beers last night I had a. I had a beer but overtime beers they they make your hangover over. It's like a multiplier overtime. Beer makes her hangover the next day. One point five times worse than a beer drinking regulation snacks and beer bad. I'm more confused when it's really relate. I'm more confused Monday night like Monday. Night is for watching football and cleaning up your life not drinking not eating what planet or you've yet on the night football is tonight. You'll get your act together sitting at home watching Monday night. Football with beers and wings. That's the cleanup game brother. Thursday is the go crazy game like food beer or whatever you want Saturdays also crazy Sunday is just go crazy eating Mondays. Clean up your whole life incorrect. Monday night is ease yourself back into the work week. Taper off from your Sunday and your Saturday. I think it depends on the quality of the game. That's like last night was a situation where it's easy for. Yeah Yeah you have to drink more for Dolphin steelers. Is that what you're saying. No don't steal. I would agree with that. All blows whatever the reason why. I love Monday night. Football is it's it's it's when it's like there's one sole game and you're like no distraction. Just sit and be with football and like say goodbye to football for three days I look into action. Obviously matching tonight allegations. Look at the schedule The opposite of Hank if I see game that's like the steelers and the jets are the dolphins and the jets on Monday night. I'm like how many beers with that take probably like seven it take seven from I'd like we need a PMT poll. How many people are drinking at home on a Monday night? I don't think it's I feel like it's the I feel like it's the sobriety. It's it's the time to clean up your life. I guess the line is long as your team's not playing if your team's playing then it's all bets are off trunk every Monday night football game. I'm I'm saying that I'll have a couple of beers code. Ones forty five percent and then in overtime it's like midnight and you're still drinking just went over. That's what I'm saying overtime hits. It's I've been night. This seems like decided you gotTa pop another beer to get ready for over one overtime beer. That's I think that's the general standard. Just one almost went the whole overtime. I think it did. It was almost a tie. It was very very close to being a tie. I had another thing flagged here Robert Sala the defensive coordinator lot of face time of the forty niners honors. He's going to be a head coach because he's necessarily great at defensive coordinator but because he has a hold back guy and anytime. You're defensive. Coordinator has a hold back guide. You look at that and you say he will be a head coach one day. Yeah and he's got when you start getting the facetime when they start showing the coordinators instead of the head coaches that guy's ready to go uh-huh and I would. I would argue that the name solid because most solid little talking soccer has never been higher. That's true so you just kind of associate that with winning right now I agree. WHO'S WHO's WHO Steve Bill Checks? Hold back I have one yet. Probably Bielema Bela. Mo's like whole Bielema. Just naturally boxes people out decided he holds the entire side. Yeah he just. He's constantly boxing. People out without even trying to did you see what Matthew mcconaughey noted football analysts said after the game no but tell me he said you give Pete Carroll a glass of water water. He turns into a lake and go skiing on it. Well Tam is it a high thought from or is that just I think anything else. Seeing Matthew mcconaughey is drug in excess. So yes it it makes you wanNA compare whatever it is. You're watching outdoors. Shirtless activities. Brain is just high all the time it makes everyone else contact contact. I actually had a friend who was at the game and he sent me a picture of back of the head. But kinda look like Pete. Carroll's twin okay. Yeah all right. We're still on the case. So the plot thickens Lewis. It was the back of someone's head look very like very much like the back of peak. We've found a guy that if you were having sex with doggy style you would have been. I'd like to convince yourself that you were engaging quotas of verse. cowgirl P care that's who it was okay all right. Do you see cool thrown. Hank you WANNA start sure. My hot seat is shorts. Okay getting cold. It was the first snowfall today bitch. Missile Yours the miserable in Israel part of the year so shorts kind of on the hot seat put him away for this is that guys always wear shorts. That's aggressive though I don't I don't but that's if you are you're a you. Can you can get away with shorts because everyone just looks like what went on but it makes set for some reason like way back when back is just decided. Hey we're gonNA wear shorts in the winter. It's a cruel trick. Nature plays on us. That right after squat overs over. You can't show off your gains. It also means though that Christmas is coming we have new Christmas sweaters on sale. Oh twenty percent off only today. Only get your merged they have some. We have like five new designs some great stuff. We should make shorts which make part of my take shorts. I've been saying for the last four years that that does chiller shorts that have the writing the sophie offi shorts or whatever the mold those are coming back eventually just as PM t across the ass those numbers with a built in poop stain like. Yeah Yeah so you just like. Hey you don't even have to worry about. I went up part of it will only Selman Brown that way the entire thing is my cool thrown is gender reveals. Okay oh I saw that. I was thinking maybe it was on the hot seat. There was also a new story last week with that plane. Crash happened because of gender reveal. I don't know exactly how normal correlated but it was like plane crash resulted result of a gender reveal. Gone wrong there was the girl farting today. Yeah I saw that the dust coming coming out of people running through the girl forty. It's got the people being like all like generals have gone too far but that's really when the heat starts and people are going to pick it up even more. I mean yeah. The plane crashed many. Is that one store. You're talking about. Yeah but I'm saying some some celebrities and suffer like being like oh I remember back in the day you feel like you just sent an email email being a boy his day you sent an email and fills dough weight at the early nineties. Yeah he's his emails being tracked by the FBI. He's been my day. We used to send a coded wire to our stock agent in my day when bill when Billy Wall Walters Walters pilly what yeah. I think that's is named Walter. The Guy The guy who's in jail because of the gambling bill yet he probably. What's what's it called though like the Martha Martha Stewart Syndrome insider trading know when they're talking about it so much trying to get to stop that it's just GonNa make it half price ain't effect? Yeah strikes the the gender reveals I have. I have a theory that we're gonNA reach a point society and probably fifteen years where this whole we've of gender reveals is GonNa come back to bite everyone in the ass because all you see the Gordon Hayward is a perfect example all you see is like dads being like shit. It's a girl bill and then when these like women or even men if it's a reverse of the MOMS crying because it's a boy they grow up and they have the ability to go online and they you see the video and they're like Oh so you didn't you didn't want me. He wanted me something once once. CAMEOS start to come in with a they. That's what they did. They probably probably hired Harrison Ford to fly that plane for their gender reveal. Get what you pay for your crashed the plane wild spin yeah. He's he's the yellowstone super volcano overdue due to dive on. I feel like there's going to be a time in the in history here where people start finding their parents doing their stupid gender reveals and they realize like how much all this sucks totes tapping I also have a theory about. But they're not stopping. No no no no. It's you're going to get worse. It's GonNa go because people have to be Chapman when a when a person farts out gender reveal the game done changed We need more than a cake farts. I was the beginning of revolution. I really enjoyed the farts revealed. That was funny. Oh it was. Yeah I mean it's it's jackass. Humor like Jackass is the greatest humor of all time when they when they when they fart baby powder in each other's faces awesome so fucking funny and I'm not being sarcastic whatsoever if jackass masterpieces that just all set great. My hot seat is the big ten in in football full because Greg Szanto according to Leroy is meeting tonight night with rutgers brass to talk serious serious business when it comes to the contractor. I think as first reported by Leroy the dog Greg Shono will be rutgers new head coach. Wow football so hot seat everyone else. The big ten big ten is hard to he. Is the man for the job job. Yeah Rose Bowl goes through piscataway That's absolutely true My other hot seat is Freddie Kitchens because according to Sabermetrics Uber metrics he's going to be fired this week. We talked about it a little bit. Yes on Monday's show. I looked up the stat. Romeo Cornell Eric Mangini Pat Shurmur Rod. Richardson Ski and Mike. Patton were all fired after their second steelers game and Hugh Jackson so this wouldn't be this week that it would be in three weeks when he plays his second. Yes yes so. He is officially on hotseat. I looked it up the steelers our final destination for browns coach tracks. That's it once you play them the second time you're done I still can't believe that. A guy named Rod Rod Cinci ever had God's ever had a job much less a head coaching job. Just a brown. That's that's the name that screams couch surfing awards. Michael Thrown is the Dallas cowboys. Because Troy Aikman. I just found this out today. I didn't know this was going on. He's been doing it for a while. Though Troy Aikman has his own proprietary Aikman efficiency rating where he goes through whatever whatever formulas and he ranks the entire league on offense defense and then combined on a scale out of God knows what but the New England patriots are number one. They're one seventy eight point two. Wow on the AIKMAN. If that's pretty hard thank that's high by the cowboys are third so they're five hundred boarding but there's a third best team in the entire. NFL According to Troy Aikman and and then the next closest team five and four is the eagles at eleventh. ooh So the cowboys jumped over the Ravens. Well if it's kings of seahawks according to his brain these rankings made perfect set cording to trick when the cowboys are really really good an underrated as far as a record go to him for not being biased. My that's good my other cool. Thrown is the Internet ruining thinks. ooh Yeah on the Internet ruining things on the cool thrown again. We're not allowed to enjoy waiting thing. We know that there was a viral video of a Beluga whale. Playing fetch with the rug mall in the ocean. Did you see that said yes. I know so oilers. The whale was have. It's worse than death. The whale was having a great time playing fetch with rugby ball and bringing it up to the boat and then they throw it again. He'd go get it back. It turns out that this whale is known to Russian intelligence services. The whales name is Vladimir and it was a captive whale ale that escaped a Russian military training program and its malnourished and injured. It's injured and it roams assise seeking food and attention from people so that's why it's swims up to boats fought because it starving to death and it doesn't interact with other whales because it was raised to be a fucking Russian spot. It's the saddest possible story you can think of. It's a fail. It's very sad and I really enjoyed that video for a good ten minutes before the Internet ruined it for him. Yeah everything's were owned all right. Yeah Yeah I mean you can't watch anything on the Internet and be cool than anymore. My hot seat. Well here's another thing. The Internet has ruined. It's ruined all of our brains because I was telling you. PFC before the show. But the newest Jeffrey Epstein theory out there he's not dead he's alive and the Clintons used Hillary's the reason we didn't kill himself because he's not dead and then they used Hillary Clinton's brother's body who died six months ago as the body for Jeffrey Epstein which they never did a DNA test. They just had Jeffrey Epstein's brother positively moved along so did Hillary Clinton also killed her brother other gone all the way deepen I'd say yes. Let's say yes she uses. This is up the Jeffrey Epstein case is a real problem for people have too much time on their hands. We're gonNA keep going deep. I'm fascinated by and and there's another billionaire suicide story out there that I wholeheartedly believe in the theory that Aubrey mcclendon you remember him. He was the CEO of Chesapeake Energy. He was also attached to billy. McFarland you is in the fire fest. Right he's one of the investors there. He was the owner of the thunder and he killed himself off allegedly right before he was going to be sentenced for fraud by driving his SUV directly. Into the side of a bridge Oklahoma City no skid marks nothing like Egypt woven. Oh into a bridge. I don't think he was in that. Hillary Clinton's smother rather he was framing. And then they were gonNA use is that Hillary Clinton's brother got a shitload of mileage out. His body is very for all these other hotseat. Hank you WANNA mention it much in. What your fancy team lost week no cares about team though I lost? You guys lost the first team. I played team and we must have put everyone in the lineup right. Nope you had three players sitting and Cooper zero point and we sat are three players on accident because we were clumsy and forgot to check or great coaches his and we are player. I and even if you have a by we think you deserve you. You should never lose your starting spot to a by also we are. You know what it what it's load management. Yeah we were given our players a little little bit of a break and credits us for being outstanding coaches. We're we're next man up team. Would you say a fantasy football expert like yourself should lose team that has three buys and a player that scored zero points. I'd have to check but I've pro leaning. No okay okay interested in waiting all right cool thrown. I don't WanNa do this to myself. What I'm GonNa do it to myself off It's Mitch Trubisky because I read this story. Listen to me Hank first of all. Listen to me I mean I read this story. The Chicago Tribune is Great Indepth article article about the draft in two thousand seventeen. Why Ryan Pace fell in love with Mitch? Trubisky all the other teams the Texans and the chiefs. Their love Everyone go read it because it's really good deep dive into just draft firms work but at the end also Ryan Pace Basically Johnson Mitch trubisky because he had a beat up car and he went to the Sun Bowl. That's pretty much okay. Yeah I do like those stories. Yeah so the troubling part where they're like. Yeah we they went out to dinner with Mitch Trubisky and he. He was gregarious in gauging and he told them about their beat up car that he drives around keep him humble. He ordered his steak medium rare to correct temperature and then and we took Pat Mahomes out and he put catchable so drafted Mitch instead. Okay so and then and then actually in the video because they they basically did the whole time line and they put in videos at the bears tweeted needed about like draft night in the video. Ryan Pace is like Hey Mitch the first call congratulations. And he's like just do me one favor. Make sure you bring that car with you to House House Hall of fame if this car. This car didn't exist. Everything changes yeah. That's why you have to play from Alabama who always drives a Mercedes but here we go. Here's what here's where it gets interesting. Because I tweeted out that everyone should read this and someone Responded me said tired of everyone bashing the bears for the pick almost every team had Mitch's top. QB On the Board Watson was coming off a second ACL injury and mahomes. Scene is very raw prospect to the only way the bears get watson or Mahomes if they were lower in the draft by a second. ACL injured you also mean second instability championship. No you only had one. You only had one. He lost the first one. That's right that's that's right. Who liked that tweet? Patrick Mahomes okay. So Patrick Mahomes is basically letting Ryan pace off has confirm. We are good. Patrick mahomes move on has acknowledged that it was not the right choice for him to be drafted by the bears on go to Chicago and get ruined the little things. Okay at the end it. Basically the whole end of the article was like somewhere. Mitch has it in like it's deep in there. He's just gotTa find it and I just read. It was like it's standing. Clap on. We got this going to happen. In retrospect it was the correct decision to draft. Mitch what happened. After that is a material change. John Fox happened material change. That was the other part. That's so fucking fucking stupid in so dysfunctional organization Shit. The bears didn't want to fire John Fox pay coach to walk away and they WANNA fire coach after two years because they just fired mark trestman years so they kept John Fox and in the whole story John Fox was like in love with Shawn Watson and Ryan Pace just basically kept out of the loop because he knew he was gonNA fire John Right after the next year. So what kind of car was Mike Lennon driving. That made them WANNA sign him for a show probably convertible car that he can stick his head the top pumping the head of it. She's Christ it was tough to read but it ended well impeachable homes has led us off the hook so he sought but everyone should read it because it actually is fascinating to see like the story about Brett vh who in like the worst twist of fate is matinees. Best friend From college he is a scout out for the chiefs and he found Patrick. Mahomes in two thousand fifteen and was basically obsessed with him ever since and basically inception the entire chief's organizations that they had had to Dr Patrick Mahomes so he found when he was the only scout in the country that was like Holy Shit. This kid is thrown for four hundred yards. A game. No no his private rooms was not like that is his first couple of years at Texas Tech. I mean he patrick Mahomes history here. Is There Patrick. Mahomes well really really good at Texas tech was on a not not a great team and he was raw he he made a lot of he threw interception. I think the one thing that you can probably point to and take some solace in is at the time hi. I'm Patrick. Mahomes had the stink of Texas Tech quarterback brands. where it's like these guys? Don't translate to the next call. Six guys named Graham. That scouts Salvat over because they didn't need to grip the laces pass at the end of the day. It's still terrible. Terrible call because essentially this was a indepth article two and a half years after the draft being like how could the bears get this wrong So really the took him to compile all the reasons why they showed the picture of Patrick Mahomes Shawn Watson Mitch Trubisky at the Pro proble because Mitch made it as alternate and that's the Andy Dalton Slot Okay let's get to our interview with Jerry Rice Before we do do that a quick word from our friends Velveeta. Nothing melts like Velveeta. Only Velveeta delivers extra creamy cheesiness. Especially perfect for your tailgate or game. 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You guys goats thing on what you do appreciate it could be a nurse it could be a doctor mhm it could be Beyond say it can be so Serena Williams and the list goes on and on but you are the goal. Yes or go to go you you would. You would say that spirit call yourself to go wide receiver right I. It's okay for people to call me to go but I would never Samna goat okay so even though I have a goat tattoo are actually there has. I'll put it this way besides you. Who is the best this wide? Receiver that you've ever seen play God I had a lot of guys before me Lance One You Know Drew Pearson Dwight Clark Mark Freddie Solomon and the list just goes on and on and on and the guy that's probably planned today the guy I really liked today is it's like Julio Jones Larry Fitzgerald and AB will. He was my man to. Yes so you had those. You talked about A. B. Leaving the the steelers were you. I think you said he was just sick of Tomlin and Rothlisberger. Since that it looks like he's been sick of everyone. Yeah had you everywhere. Do you think he plays again. Can I don't know I to be honest with you because I you know He got in touch with me and I thought he wanted to be a nine or Danny. went to the raiders and then all of a sudden things went south with the raiders and then he went to the Patriots now. He's out of football. So I I I I really don't know So you I I saw a common. I think maybe last year that you made the basically was like you could still come back and play. Oh Yeah I still got by eighty catches me so if the forty niners. Let's say say couple injury they don't date on me then. You really do think that we always. We always joke about it because Barry Sanders retired when he still had a lot of gas in the tank back and my dad used to always say like Oh Barry Sanders out there somewhere for about fifteen years after our can. Are we still in the Jerry. Rice up still. He still could get out out there. You know I remember Barry Sanders back in the day and he put so many guys in the hospital and you know because he could cut on a dime and You know what a great football all player but you know I think the niners right now. He's a whole different scheme. Football with the run pass. Option is not like the old days and And I remember days Where if the ball was being thrown to the right side I was getting hit on the backside? Yeah now D- Protect players just a little bit more or are you a little bit jealous of the players. I put up the numbers that they do. Not You know. I think I played in air where I would go back and change anything. I had great teammates. And you know with Joe Montana Hannah and you know had run a lot. The greatest coach of you know with Bill Walsh and no I would not change anything and and I know the ball is being thrown in air more now but I played in a in a ear where I I think when knows helmet collided on Monday night I football. You knew it was time for those gladiators to come out there and play. You mentioned Ronnie Lott Gladiator when he cut his own finger off yet at that seriously areas and they told me that story man and I was like wow. Did he actually do that for real for real about it. He did he did. He didn't want to miss any any time so He decided to tell them to just nipped edge and he did you. Would you have done the same thing or your hands. A little use. Use a little differently than a defensive player with without any hesitation. No no no no no no really I was but but let let let me tell you guys this I think because I play Fo- with twenty years The pain tolerance. And you're not always going to be able to play when you healthy healthy but you still got to be able to perform at a certain level so I was able to whatever I could block that out if I had a separated shoulder around could block that out and still okay so that brings up something that I wanted to mentioned Nine hundred ninety seven you tear your acl week one. You Played Week Sixteen of the how. How is possible this is before acl surgeries have become? You know what they are today. Guys guys timelines. Only nine months twelve. You played in the same season when you tore easiest. The reason why at played is because they were gonNA retire. Joe Montana Tanna Jersey on that night and I wanted to be a part of that. That's out of respect to him. Also oversaw rehab like crazy. The and everything was working properly I was I was being explosive. I could come out of my cuts. I could do everything But when you have an injury like like that The knee doesn't heal completely It was no way I should a plate in a game but I played in it and I was right back in surgery the next day you did did other surgery. Yeah crack my Patella content did you retire the ACL at the same time. No no no but it just crack my hotel tell us oh they went in there and put some Stroz in did all that Joe did this form. Yeah told him gift basket. So so so Ios me big task Stay out of respect respecting. Look today and I was just because I saw the warned sap. And you're upset that Warren Sapp never called you to apologize which is bringing back a lot of bad memory game log and I was like wait. He played in week sixteen. How does this make sense? Yes so you know. It's just hard work man and in in throughout my career to play professional football for twenty years you have the sacrifice a lot. Yeah and and I love the game the way I conditioned Asian myself and I always wanted to you know. Put something out this special for the fans. Let's talk about that because you're conditioning. Your work ethic are stuff of Legend Everyone knows about the bricks. Oh you would catch bricks. Your Dad was a bricklayer. Would throw you bricks. When you're a kid you tell I had a brother debt You know dead with with. Throw me bricks in. I would be up on the scaffold. Elvis about twenty foot in the air and brisk sub separate and I was snatched him out of the air. And there's this myth about about me catch him. Bricks helped me to catch football. But it's totally different. You know to catch a football. You gotta be able to catch the ball with your hands and you got to be able to give with the ball If you you know with the bricks if you catch the bricks and you give with the bricks you're gonNA come tumbling down brick. Yeah you'RE GONNA get bricked so but I I think it was just. My father taught me about work ethic You know loving what you do and always give them one percent okay. What about chasing compete the horse? He was my horse. I'm telling you that's true. Pete was the fastest horse in the neighborhood and P had muscles he was just like you know. I'm like okay. You want some of me. I knew pe- could outrun everybody in the neighborhood and stuff like that. This is the only only took me maybe about maybe two hours to chase. Repeat down because he was in his big. You know this big pasture and stuff like that and he was not the type of horse you could walk up to grab okay so this is rural Mississippi because because it's very funny saying to be like Pete was the fastest horse in the neighborhood like which obviously implies like many Horses Kentucky. Duke if if P was in the Kentucky Derby Win Really Heat the horse. Did you work your way up to Pete with another horse horse. No no no no no. We had to run the horses down. So that took about forty five minutes to our but the incentive is if you run a horse down and you get horse for the rest of the day got to ride the best tour you got the best choice but when you re release Pete his going to take the same thing the next time you get it right so in that would that was part of my condition yeah right light training for the NFL by chasing piano horse sort of similar to like you know forrest. Gump I would just run. Does that help you more with with With your endurance. Or that help you be able to cut what what did running after. Repeat really help you. I think it was more about my endurance. Yeah that deficit that's it because the fourth quarter and fourth quarter. I want them to look the same way. A lot of guys doing fourth quarter. They're tired so you know defensive backs they would look at me and I'm a bouncing around jumping around looking at me like I'm crazy because I still have more football in always always at my best in the fourth quarter closing speed were closing speed on Pete. two-horse with yeah go ahead I was GONNA say Wizar- anybody that you played against the defender that you knew was kind of your your peer. That was able to shut you you down or were you always. What do you mean shut me down? Is there a guy talking about yes so I one one guy that like was Dion Dion Sanders Darryl Green till the fastest guys in the NFL and Dion. When he first came into league he was just known for his speed but then and he worked on his craft and So it was one of those things where you have respect for but you knew that you had to go out in somehow you had to defeat this person and Those are battles that you look forward to Challenges and it brings out the best in you. So you're kinda joking with. PF T. there but not really. Because I feel like competitive you have all nobody. You have a loser tentative street do you. Not only that but I'm talking about I read a story where you you so every day in the offseason six days a week two times a day was the training. Can you walk us through that you guys you guys a number one and what you do right. Yeah what what does that take a lot of. Yes right owing salts as right yeah so but you you know you you completely Jerry Rice you yeah you involved off them with you and you love what you doing right so it was the same thing for me. You loved so walk us through an average day of offseason workout. Because there's also a time when I would assume most guys aren't training the way they train like now guys train all year round and they no no no not do do not do they train less now. Okay because you know do a quick meant that they have and and stuff like that to get all this other stuff going on with social media and you know endorsements and all that stuff. That was something I stayed away from. Okay okay a typical day for me. doing all season. I would take take two weeks off rate after the season right back into my training so I wanted to go back into running. He'll I had this infamous infamous healed at. Our run is about two and a half miles up and then you had to run down but we we ran time the last eight hundred meters straight up hill and and and that would challenge anyone that would make Players threw up But I was conditioned myself getting myself ready for the next year so you do that in the morning on up. The Hill is do that Dan. I met the GM Probably roundabout eleven lift till one o'clock the N. I have the rest of the day to do whatever I wanted to do so you oh you don't think the players these days can hang with you. I think players. They thought I was crazy and and they don't have to do that anymore. TR- they've got the equipment equipment has become to advance. That sort of thing is a lot different now and I think guys they just don't maybe that's not right for me to say they just don't commit to craff You know like we did back in the day. was there anyone on the forty niners who not outworked you but worked worked as hard as you Roger Craig really introduced me to the hill And but you know the rest of the team as you know my teammates. They thought we were crazy crazy. He's still run up the hill. I still run. He'll do you do you. I told you I have. I have done it before. Yeah did you ever bring anybody to work out with you. And they're like yeah. Yeah I WANNA do with Jared Barry Sanders Guys Barry Sanders. They thought they'd like okay. We see why you in such great shape but you guys ask you gotta think about this too. I play for over twenty years. Yeah the lifespan of football players by four years About when we when we played the game because you were getting hit you know even if the the ball was not coming your way right so that brings up something also. I wanted to talk about so there was a news story a couple of weeks ago about Tom Brady possibly moving on from the Patriots in the off off season which I think we all agreed is kind of bogus. But it's something you talk about the middle of season. You had such an incredible career with the forty niners but but at the end of your career you moved onto different teams. Do you have regrets that you weren't able to just stick around with a forty nine dollars now. I still wanted to play. Yeah and I still felt like I had more to offer offer when I went to the raiders and when it went in there and put that uniform on and I I pretty much announced that I you know what I looked. Pretty good in this silver and black I it looked look really good on me and I had some success there. I think that year when I got Let go by the niners. I went back to the pro. Bowl did all that head opportunity. Go back to the Super Bowl but we got beat by Tampa Bay Because I really wanted to Bring a super bowl to Tim Brown And Rich Gannon in all of those guys but it can happen but now I have no regrets in. I went on to Seattle for a little bit then. I was in Denver for a second and that was in of. Did that. Look Weird when you put on the the seahawks uniform for the first time because you look I always thought you look great in the silver black. That's Jerry Rice but when I saw you put on the seahawks uniform it was like that is just weird. Yeah it was a little different but you know I also When I went in it was no way I was going to touch us? Steve largest number I was prepared to get a number rob probably going to go back to my my collegiate number eight eight but when I went in I met with Steve Large and he said hey you know I want you to wear eighty and I'm like in the way the respect that I have for that man. It was no way I was going to say no to him. And that's the reason why wore eighty the ultimate respect number respect actors like different level of respect I have a theory. Okay so you are. You are the goat in my mind But I think with athletes athletes. The problem is as time passes people forget the goats of of of past years. Right they move onto the next thing. We see it all the time in basketball. We in football. I think that your legacy is hurt. By the fact that people weren't playing fantasy football football would seriously hold on. Okay I'm GONNA explain it. Okay when when you have guys who put up incredible statistical game seasons there is a like the kinship ship between fans outside of your team you play for that is bigger than that like I could remember when Ladainian Tomlinson one me a league like I always so so I think we need to set up a twitter account or have someone do it and be like this this week in Jerry Rice if you had on your fantasy team basically like a time portal. So I threw up because listen I I looked at like for instance. You tweet when we if you had jerry rice on your fantasy team week five. Nineteen nineteen ninety. He had thirteen catches two hundred and twenty five yards and five touchdowns. That's pretty good in one week. How many how many points are you serious? Yes you. That's what you I had that. Game against the Falcons Atlanta. Yeah where they they had demery. I think he was the defensive back in. They kept trying to play me one on one like. Are you serious. Even your journey actually actually been came up and they put him on you one on one on one. Sanders was the other quarterback and they told him. No you stay. I'm I'm like okay. Yes so you're going to follow the Jerry Rice Time Puerto Puerto so why nineteen ninety-three eight eight catches one hundred seventy two yards four touchdowns like that's if you tweet that like if you had Jerry Rice on your busy team this week you would have won Wow that's basically two people realize how special you were in the numbers you put up because I think that gets lost I think I'm always surprised by your own stats. Yeah I because I never kept up with my status. That's why we twelve nineteen ninety-four sixteen catches one hundred sixty five yards three touchdowns sin- holding you didn't put him on your bench. That one more time sixteen catches one hundred sixty five yards. It's three touchdowns sheesh crazy. Yeah so even Jerry. Rice is impressed by Jerry Rice. That's GonNa Start Start for us because we have a million people. Listen to us not to Brag but Someone will start that. It'd be like this week and Jerry Rice history. I'm also so very impressed by like I've I've always look back at your career and kind of admire the fact that you came into the League and the knock against you was. You might not be that fast. You might not be fast. In fact Aaron. Donald ran a faster forty time. Then you did right. And he's you know two hundred two hundred ninety pounds big Guy But when you got on the field we you put the pads on either. You got a lot faster or everybody else. That was fast without panel got a lot slower. We got a lot faster because I knew people will be. We're trying to hurt me and when someone is trying to hurt you you have to Tennessee to Ronaldo bit faster yeah so whenever I got out in front of someone and and And I was like. That's the way I I. I used to really think. And that gave me that little extra boost that I needed to Get into the end zone but yeah that's the way I looked at it. Four six forty. I'm starting to think that the one that can public let me ask you I'm GonNa tell you this probably a doing a football game. I was running one in four tooth for tooth. Yeah too because you were scared scared and I used to my event. Yeah now if you lie me up just to run a straight forty woody. I'M NOT GONNA run time. Yeah yeah we need someone chasing chase. Beat the Horse. Yeah exactly. So you're were were no doubt or hall of Famer but do you think when you look at someone who is up for the hall of fame do you think postseason success and those big moments. Yeah Ah exactly exactly because I feel like you go back in you. Look at my post season. I was always at my best you know you go back during the season season Like during the season you look at Sunday night football Monday night football. I was always at my best you so you have to be able to perform at a certain level. When everything's everything is on a lie? What was your favorite sewell? I like them all give me. The charges are serious from Kiro from suppo twenty three the final drive from a super bowl. Twenty four against the broncos. Well we beat them fifty five. I think five hundred fifty. Yeah Being Super Bowl twenty nine I think they all brought something special. But it's like they meant something to me because I was always nervous. You hear you know hear people say it was just another game no is not super bowl and and if you don't win You know no one. No one is going to remember the loser right. It's always always at my got someone tell my my first super bowl. I remember playing a game over and over the night before because we always put the I fifteen plays in. Yeah so I knew exactly the opportunities that I would have doing a game so I'm up playing his game all night long. I wake up the next day. Then you know I can't eat. I never eat own on Game Day. You know because I you know. I got these butterflies going on. I'm nervous and stuff like that and the Super Bowl is not till late on the evening so I go go to the stadium which I always go on. The first bus over dome was in Miami. Oh Miami so I go to. I go to I I on the first bus. Go to the stadium. Put My uniform on decided to relax on. His table fell asleep. Falsely and I could hear my teammates as they walked by like. What is going on on? This is super bowl. He just You know he's he's sleeping. He's taken out but I had prepared. I knew exactly what I want to do now. Just had the carried it to the football so speaking of guys that have had a lot of postseason success and talk about what that means for their legacy. A lot of people recently have been talking about Julian early in Edison. Yeah and the possibility that he might be a hall of Famer because of what he's done in the postseason Ajoy Ataman also he took your daughter Prom right. Yep Yep did you have any words Julian before the idea. Hey you can't share it with you guys yeah. I can't say it over the air and stuff like that. No no but you know with Element what what he's doing for his he's just like he's just a tough guy Look at you know like last night. That catch he made and he just Through who is body in the air and stuff like that you know to Get positive yards But I think eventually they have to start looking at those Though smaller guys you know what they do the ball is not. I don't think ever GONNA get thrown down feels depots He used to in the past. it's is all about those Lewis Short passes in in being able to do something with the ball speaking of which you have so many records but I feel like the if your quarterback or wide receiver in the NFL. Your records get broken because of the way the League is is a passing right. So are you When record gets broken although you're still still it's very hard for someone to break? You're receiving yards record. I would assume well far away as Leery He's I I think I still think he's got a waste. I think about four hundred or something. Yeah so that's I don't know if he's got that put are you. I know exactly. I know exactly where he's gotta be somewhere close. Oh so right. So do you get when you lose a record. How does that like did you? Are you mad or happy now. I'll be the first one to congratulate late. You okay you know because I I didn't play it for the records Larry six thousand yards behind. All you got this. You're receiving record. All time was probably untouchable apple. Swayed it sounds like everything. Yeah behind you. There's there's Larry and he's he's probably got maybe one year left and I'm if that Torello we love reception wise. How how how many is he has two hundred years about two hundred ago but two hundred? So what do that to catch that. He plays three more more years. Yeah maybe three or four years. I don't know that's a lot of years. I mean that's the longevity of your career is incredible. You said it yourself like four years is the average is that Point to all the training. You think that's I think that's that's really something that I'm proud of. You know that I was able to commit to something like like that and instill love it today. You know because it's like whenever I went to practice I felt like I wanted to learn something you know not sand and I will wake up and say oh I gotta go to work today and just going through the motions and I think the thing is that really helped me to excel on for Mafia. was there ever any times throughout your career and you were fortunate enough to play on some really really good teams where you had kind of a down season or bad time and and did that impact. Pack Your love of the game and in turn affect like how much you wanted to work at it and you guys. I think one thing that really helped me and I must say this because when we lost to the Tampa Bay buccaneers in our with the raiders. Because I was always used to win in super bowls they had all your place always and and and we ended up losing that one and still you have obligations that you have to feel with the media and stuff like that now here here I am. I'm so used to you know just winning now. I you know I lost but still being able to You Know Oh do what I had to do with the media do with what I had to do with the fans and stuff like that I think I I learned more by losing than winning because when you win. Everything's just great and stuff like that and I remember. We lost that game. When I got back to my room I went to my room? I said on the bed for a second in. NFL cried like a baby. Because I was like I cannot believe we just lost the Super Bowl but now you got together yourself and you gotta go downstairs right. Yeah right well you also had like three and a half quarters to realize you lost that Super Bowl. 'cause you guys got killed well. Thanks a lot appreciate that smoked. Yeah Yeah I mean Gruden had all the play is a good thing skin and three other super bowl. That helps a little bit Is it harder to catch a spiral from a left era. Righty lefty and I had a trainer. Dad was a lefty he through so many balls. And Steve User really pissed pissed me off though. Because when Steve I came into Lee St was more of a running quarterbacks hole here I am. You know I'm like I'm running my route and I'm thinking okay. The crowd is cheering. They see me about you. Know about to get open and stuff like that St was running up my back right because he was running the ball and stuff like that but we became Great tandem just like I was able to become a great ten in with Joe Montana. Wh what was the ending like they're in the locker room when it was clear that you know Oh Steve was going to be the future and Joe on it. It was tough because I thought of Joe as God and I'm like God is never going anywhere and Joe decided to move on to Kansas City and St became the guy now everything that I had developed with With Joe I had to put that on the back burner and I had to make Steve. You know a better quarterbacking in house always able to do that with whoever was beyond center user moment where you knew that it was gonNA work out with Steve I. I was going to make it work because I was gonNA bring the best out of him. You know If he has some strengths in in in different in in different areas and stuff like that I was going to tailor to that And I think you know through repetition working doing a week and stuff like that we we got on the same page. And it's just like the game. I was watching you know with the Cleveland browns and stuff like that and you got Odell Beckham And he has. That's a chance to win the game one and you don't throw him the football so you have to you know get on the same page It's it's interesting. The lefty righty things. I never really really thought hit the ball. Spins a different direct right. Yes yes so you so you had to basically retrain how to kill y'all 'cause I had never caught a ball from a lefty and I had a trainer the throw me balls after the balls doing certain drills and it just became natural. How many catches do you think you've caught in? Oh my God you. This is like like knows like Wilt Chamberlain. I couldn't even tell you I million. He's got a million. Yeah how many like you know professional catches have you had because I would say a hundred and five hundred forty nine I would. I would say this new tip top of my head. How many would you catch in practice? I can tell you we gotta figure I WANNA I wanNA stat like Jerry. Rice caught this many passes in his entire life. I think might be a million. Yeah I just like autograph. Yeah how big are your hands. I shook your hand it was like Jimi Hendrix hands. Yeah I thought I had big hands but then I ran into shack check. Oh yeah he shook my hand and my hand just completely disappeared. Well here's a here's a stat. Oh another jerry rice stat. Probably because your hands being large large you played One Thousand Nine seasons in the NFL Twenty Seasons Twenty You had nineteen fumbles. Total eleven lost. That's insane eleven. Fumbles lost and in twenty seasons. That's crazy so John. Bray About Commissioner Jerry. Wh why are you bringing the memories backup. You're so many headed if you think that is a bad day fumbled eleven. That's yeah that's bad. That's how competitive you are. That's that's conceived. I saw that and I was like how did he only eleven time. I think we all want to really. It'd be perfect. You were as close to perfect as you get and you're still mad about it. I had eleven if you started Jerry. Rice week to nine hundred ninety five. He had eleven catches one hundred. Sixty seven yards two touchdowns if you started Jerry Rice Week. Fourteen thousand nine hundred five. He had ten catches two hundred. Forty forty one yards and a touchdown. That was your breakout game. All these Games are like over thirty points here probably over forty. Most of them crazy when you're when you had your breakout Kowt game and in your rookie season That was a third game in season against a ramps. I remember that Oh I was counting it as the the week. Fourteen Games that talking about you're saying that he was already you're already Dell's Delta my come out game three. I think it was week three because I became. The starter are in We played the rams and the game. I went into where I knew exactly what to do. I didn't have to think about What I you know had had to do on a football field and I was able to just go play football? No wait. That was week. Fourteen against the Rams we three was against the raiders. Week fourteen when I was talking about ten catches two hundred. Forty one yards I. I would say that you're breakout game. Okay all right because you had you ever you ever like I told you I'm I'm. I'm a little confused because I don't keep up with mustache. That's right so so you have your thousand five hundred forty nine seven two hundred eight touchdowns twenty two thousand eight hundred ninety five yards Eleven fumbles lost over with thirty. Seven rutgers caught pete the Horse People Seventeen Times so Bill Walsh though I'm curious he's he's a fascinating guy to me. Someone who revolutionized football when you sat down with him. What was the type of things he would do as a coach to make you better or or bring the best out of Jerry Rice? Well he'd never let you got comfortable. He never he never would let you get comfortable or anything like that in and bill And I'm telling you got that's the story here because it was by accident that they drafted me because The San Francisco Forty niners day were in town and played a New Orleans saints in in New Orleans. They had checked into the hotel. Bill was flicking the channel and they were showing some old highlights of Mississippi Valley State That Saturday game and he noticed me running across the television catching balls and running away from everybody. He went back and told a scouting department. We gotTA look at this Guy Jerry Rice so they went back they looked at me. And then they trade it down to get to that sixteenth spot because they traded with the New England Patriots to get sixteen spot. Because I thought I was going to be a Dallas Cowboy. Oy they had to seventeen and then I got you off to the niners service history so when when he would do an insole meeting or something like that yeah and he he was going over your film. How hard would coach you? How critical would he be? Oh Yeah you're very critical but but I think it. It made me a better football football player because When you sit there and you wash the film as a team and you not giving one hundred percent or you not doing your job is right there? You know on the field And and he would do he would he would have to offense and defense if we had a bad game. Sit there and watch I teach other And you have to be accountable. So a lot of great coaches come through there too. You had Mike Shanahan. Yeah all my comb. RINALDI's a lot of football. Oh Gosh those guys went on to become head coaches so so what bill. Watts was able to do. His coaching tree became enormously successful at their own right. When they went went on to other jobs you see coach like Bell Check and his his coaching tree sometimes struggles with that sort of thing? So what was bill. Walsh's approach with with his own coaches had. Did you ever seen like try to manage them. What was his attitude that he would have without? I think he's just lamp by example I mean what he expected of his players The way we practice we had to hustle to drill Because if you if you don't practice a certain way you're not going to be able to carry that on to a game situation Or a big game So preparation was everything for us in. I think that was the thing for him. all right I have one last question. Were with Jerry Rice America's game the NFL one hundred. You can buy now So my last question we have a guy here. It's the seekie question Promo code take put in Promo take your ten dollars off your seatgeek purchase. We have a guy here from Mississippi. I think he's from like five minutes away from you. I'll introduce you after. Yeah Okay and he asked. I said hey anything because he you know he's a hero of yours I asked him anything I should ask. And he's a hero for your. He's a hero. He's a hero of yours. Yeah Ah Brandon Walker as a hero of Jerry Rice. Yes You you love this guy. So the he asked all time Mississippi football all players. Can you rank them Walter. Payton Jerry Rice Brett farve Steven Kerr all time. I love love love sweetness okay number one I will say then myself. Okay doesn't very smart. Classy move are you Thank Brett Okay and an Arabic near let me pretty good any other Mississippi legends. I Dunno are actually. Don't know but Walter paid man sweetness guy I remember. I used to idolize that guy. I had a brother played Jackson state too and my brother at that time told me they were running like the wishbone. So that was not a good place to go for a receiver because if they run into the wishboned and not going to be throwing a ball that much. But but I re- I remember when he went into the League and he used to have those King Arusha holiday how he would punish people when he ran the football I I saw like allies iced. Okay yeah okay SIPPY good football i. I got two last questions when you're first of all. Were you ever upset that you didn't get a cooler nickname from Chris Berman. 'cause he was always always around us. Forty niners teams back in the day. Yeah he was always picking us to win the Super Bowl 'til You know I have had my share nicknames Fi fi yeah because of my hair man I had head beefy look and stuff like that. They used to call me Jerry World Rise because I used to. They felt like I could catch anything in the world. They they usually call. You should call me flash eighty and this one guy Jamie Williams star day he would go flash. Yeah you know I have had my share think. Who Recalls you Jerry Minute Rice. You probably yeah we did yeah. It was as good some of his other ones he brought out the the heavy hitters for other people. I guess you probably didn't need a nickname. You Kinda let your game game speak for itself. My last question is also comes from somebody who works here He his name's Tyler at Tyler. I am on twitter. He wanted to know how how much stick them is too much. Stick them Well you know what trump kind of legacy. I'm not even gonNA respond to that in some way above that Gary Geico my thing is I played a game. The Right Way And I you know I hopefully I was able to entertain a lot of people and and I had fun and I said no question you know. The thing is people are going to have their own opinions. And I feel like I'm way above. I bet will. Will you go back and you look everything and guess who's been picked by USA. Today number. One Jerry Jerry Rice Jerry Rice Jerry Rice in the Super Bowl nineteen ninety-four in your daily fantasy league. He had ten catches one hundred forty nine yards and three touchdowns sounds in the super interesting. That's a pretty good stat line so we need to get that. We need to get that up there the Jerry Rice today. That's pretty cool. Time Portal. Yeah I think I'd like to let everyone know the stats. But you know what you guys are goes man. Oh thank you appreciate you guys and I know all the hard work that goes into entities. Appreciate that now go up. Thank you go jerry. Rice that interview with a Goat Jerry. Rice was brought to you by dollarshaveclub when I talked about Dollar Shave Club. I'm not stressing enough. The quality of the products. And you better job with that. 'cause they are super high quality. I Love Dollar Shave Club. I I love the kit that they send me. 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We have way wait to stay relevant baseball. The Astros have been cheating and cheating a lot. so are we saying this is definitively true It's it seems pretty close to being true because they've got former players they've talked to Annonymous people from the team behind the scenes as well as pitchers that pitched against since then when all this was going on and things pretty airtight. I saw John Boy put together a clip. Did you guys see it. Basically broke down. The Astros had trash cans. They were banging in the dugout. Very loud Whenever there was an off speed pitch coming yeah really also doing it for the away team's when Justin verlander was pitching? Yeah because that would explain a lot act I would last couple so first of all. This is pretty fucked up but also good for baseball because it's baseball talked about Aj hinch hinch. The manager for the Astros also was like every time it's been brought up. I think there was a whistling controversy and he was super super arrogant about it. The Astros Stroz. has there ever been a team that has like fallen off in the public conscience. More than the Astros in the last month Probably probably not. It's been it's been a rough month for Houston fans. I was going back and looking at what happened during the Yankees series this year and so the whistling personally accusations are coming from the Yankees saying that they would do the same thing except not with the trash cans with whistling. They would whistle Aussie off speed. Pitch was coming in. Aj hinch the manager said it made me laugh the accusations because it's ridiculous. Had I known it would take something like that to sit off the Yankees. We would've practice that in spring training so cheating and cocky about it MHM so the how long from now until the cardinals copy. What the ASS? It's already happened. And they start cheating to the Astros so what. What's the punishment I don't even you know I mean first of all we should give Clayton Kershaw world series for two thousand seventeen? Okay Yes oh we should update his resume. Make the Astros moved to London. Dow will be good. But this is like this actually is kind of a big deal if this is proven to be true and I don't know how deep you can get into it. I think they'd probably have to have a few more sources but it came. I'm from a guy who played for the Astros then got traded. Yeah so seems pretty seems like. It's pretty realistic that it that it actually did happen. It's blatant cheating. There's I like baseball when there is like a little gamesmanship a little this little that you know maybe trying to steal sign here in their Or tipping pitches but this seems like they were actually using high like high tech cameras in the outfield relaying it to the dugout in real time real time and then letting the players know which is so blatantly cheat discussing. I'm using a camera signals disgusting. Have you done yet Have you done that yet. Somehow making it about I don't do that. You guys are the ones that do it. And they had to say some tissue let Roger Goodell Take Terminal runs saying Houston Astros did is disgusting and unacceptable. And that's fair. Yeah I'm happy you standing so I I agree with you. I think that cheating is baseball is a sport for scoundrels cheating. Reasoning Gamesmanship is fine. Once you bring anything that requires a battery into play correct whether it be an Apple Watch as some teams have done in the past and gun caught doing or the steelers. Or if it's who doesn't know how to use an epilogue yeah. Yeah that's a good point hank but once you bring a camera or an iphone or anything like that into it's a little bit over the line fine and you can hear you on the video that John Boy put together you can hear them banging trash cans. That's like they're doing a recital of stomp out loud and back in the clubhouse and that's that's yeah exactly that's all you hear before the pitches or maybe it's always. Pete was running their air conditioning system system and their heating bills. And they've got they've got earned the pipes that's what they should say. I know there will be a lot of people will say. This is the worst thing that could have baseball because it is blatant cheating and they won a world series stories. Probably in part because of it. I think it's all good for baseball. Any kind of publicity is good for baseball. It's just people like it gets people going in. I would obviously a heart's lose. Trust obviously think very differently if if the cubs played them in the world series. But I'm admitting that if you trust baseball at this point you're you're the mark you're yeah you're the idiot right now if you actually believe that they're in it for you Also stay woke. This is awards week so Monday. They announced rookie of the year. Tuesday's manager of the year Wednesday sei-hyung Thursdays. MVP people are talking about baseball. Stay woke on the timing of it and we'll see what will spend on this little. Do Your pod for DC homers I this makes the nationals world series title even more impressive. Yeah the fact that they were able to beat them while they're in fact I did a little sabermetrics of my own here. I looked looked up the box. Scores from this year's World Series on games played in Houston sixty percent of the Astros runs were scored in the first inning before before the nationals would change how they were doing their signs change other tipping their pitches and Strasbourg even said I think it was after game sex. He's like yeah. They knew what I was going to throw. Oh so I switched things up. He didn't elaborate any more on that. But it would lead me to believe and other reasonable people to believe that there were still doing it this year so this he couldn't even cheat correctly at home though they couldn't win a game at home yep they cheated themselves. This should be Achieved all of us how you can say your kids like. How am I gonNa tell my son that baseball has been ruined? Can't you can't explain it to them. I can't well. He's four months. We'd probably understand and you can try. I will actually tonight. I'm going to simulate. Hey just you know Oh. Aj hinch is a real motherfucker. Yeah I'd say right to his face. Total across tech instead of a baseball gliders mattress rules through big winner of this. This is the cross all right trouble in paradise skip. Bayless in Ezekiel Elliott's family. So skip bayless throughout as Zeke Jersey which was come on skip at least put a fucking liner in the trash can to make us think it's real name. His microwave I know people do it like when we tweet out videos and stuff so it's like the microwave was the most preposterously plays microwave. I thought it was great. It was wrong it was right a penis height. His microwave is built in underneath. That's yet I don't know who could be for skip. Doesn't have any kids running around. I think skip probably just microwaves. Ball's real quick before he goes on the air every morning. Just get his takes up. That's the only it's seriously below his yes I was. I was very concerned about so throughout Zeke's Jersey which was baffling. Because Ezekiel Elliott was not the reason. Why the cowboys always lost Jason Garrett? What's the reason why the cowboys lost Jason? Garrett doesn't have a Jersey that you can destroy well you can just throw away like a play card or something he in an ill fitting polo shirt. Do you think when the cowboys have been doing well. Do you think that skip has made Ernestine Ernestine. Where a red WIG? That's more maybe even whether doing bad he thinks it out on Jason on a weekend yeah and their sleep in the same bed together Ronald McDonald probably. Yeah I'd say definitely skips by the way skip is one of those guys. You can just tell addicted to portrait mode because they call all his pictures. Have that fucking weird thing where it's like blurred in the background. It's like come on dude. You're in a fucking cowboys. Years Year Weirdo. But anyways Zeke's mom clock back and said pretty much fade on site right. Said you're not I don't want to catch you wearing my son's Jersey anymore so it's not a problem because he threw it away into his through two way. You know what it definitely was taken out. There's there's always something at the bottom of your trash can that you just haven't taken out after you keep replacing the liner over top of it like over and over and over again that trash jr is yeah the trenches are. Maybe it's just just like a couple of paper towels that are at the bottom of it. Yeah yeah that's just going to stay Zeke's Estievenart showman that we know that he truly is he would get Zeke's mom on I yes And and and pull Zeke Jersey out of a trash can by the way. How do we get this far into the show? Not even mentioned this show is brought to you by the Disney plus. That's right yeah. They came into office this morning. Held guns ahead and we have to tweet about him and talk about all the time. Yeah it's crazy. How many people were tweeting about Disney? Any plus Stephen as was so funny. Because I for some reason when Steven tweets and ad I believe that He's like. I've been so excited for this. I'm so excited it's like he probably is GonNa Watch Moulin. Who Long Rouge all day? I honestly think Stephen a Smith gets excited whenever somebody puts money into his bank account. Right on Chengguan. Let's move on rush. Moulin Rouge his his new movie last week in Action Lawn Rouge is about The strippers that live inside a windmill move on his movie in Spain. Is the female. A warrior who fought in place of her father was Irish one. They got the Irish Irish Disney channel. Movie Got Saints. There's a little little girl who's got freckles. And she has a fucking bone Arrow and she's like an Irish was ashes no braveheart. I think I'm thinking of braveheart. Yeah I usually have somewhat of an understanding of what you're talking about Disney Disney a Disney. I leave save an Irish warrior princess. Maybe I made that up. Yeah I think he did. Okay well onto. What are we owe guys on? Check guys on Chica I feel like Hey p I feel like I usually have. There's one thing that you say. That sounds familiar. None of that Irish. Are you talking about the the windies logo. No Oh there's a Disney movie Irish Disney movie Irish Google Luckily Irish luck of the Irish. And that's not brave breath okay. It's a pixar. Yeah Yup I got it. Picks ours look at that that's Disney. That's an Irish. With a bow. And Arrow you nailed it nailed the come out though Two thousand twelve. I don't even I didn't even see it. I don't know why I thought this. I even see it okay. Recently my friend has started talking. I was probably triggered that they had a ginger beer. Heroes like I've seen enough bengals games. That doesn't happen recently. My friend has started talking talking to a forty year old Mormon guy who has never been married he always seems to avoid her sexual advances for example. She invited him to spend the night several times. He'll just say he can't or he'll say stay on the couch but ends up leaving. They've made out a few times but he always push her away when he feels. It's getting too intense and says he needs to go. Do you think he's a virgin. Or why do you think he's avoiding wedding. Her advances showed she even keep trying to get laid by him. I think he's definitely a Mormon. That's pretty pretty common. I most most most confirmed a mormon. Yeah most of the Mormons. I knew got married super early because they were like. I really want to have sex. But they are very committed to not having sex they just soak how about this introduce him soaking and then see what he says. I like that and then kind of take it from there. Ticket's slow with be gentle. I think he yeah he he is just scared of soaking scared of saying. Hey I know you wanna fuck but really what you're going to have to soak Soaking seems awesome. I would love to. Yeah very actually went to Utah All. I know it's coming up videos. Apparently you coming up this weekend. You can't come when you're soaking. Otherwise it sin so you just have to think about baseball laying there okay. Yeah that sounds. It sounds relaxing. Honestly yeah sure hey. PMT Boys especially above average tight. PF T my name is Helga after my great grandmother and my boyfriend has asked me multiple times to go. Buy An my middle name. Because he thinks my name sounds like an obese beast. German Lady's name is see a piece of shit for thinking this or should I take his advice by an. I happen to think Helga has a nice ring to it. Should I break them. Please help want me out. You know what I used to date a girl way back in the day named Elsa Ooh and I kind of felt the same way about that name and then fast for like twenty years later and boom frozen out now everyone wants to be called shrew cool young name again. Names do committee. All you need is for Disney to remake brave and this time braves little sister health as the star and then all of a sudden. It's like you're dating movie star. We should do saying you don't like the name unless they come out with the Disney movie. That's that's what you know. No I'm saying you're the human mind is trashing name as what you said. It is crazy though that names age out like you don't see Dorothy. Have you ever met a Dorthy. There was no blake's until like nine hundred seventy hottest name. I know yeah okay boomer. It's true that is crazy. Who's the first Blake? I tried to do some research. Perform this year's Blake of the year and I was like Oh it's some historical Blake's and it was like one on lake. Washington digs else patient. Zero for Blake's. Yeah there's got to be the first blink was it. There's probably like Lord Blake Blake was the last name I bet your last name that just turned it into a first name Okay okay. I liked that Ethel. You don't see many Ethel's Jones Joan Search show this question this. Yeah that you see a lot. I cannot remember the last time I met Agnes or Anne. Helga should go or any social should go by an Dan and yeah I like Helga. Well Keep Yoga. I feel like hell plays if you're basically October fest that's it. Yeah Oh yeah huge time doing cocaine okay enough dude's Dick also as the Germans do. Hey Boys my boyfriend spends on average twenty minutes poop. I timed it and it's getting to be a problem where always lead to events or Milona dinner or we will be with my parents and they think he is sick. I know he's arentz phone but he says he's actually pooping the whole time and it just takes a while to get it out but I always say when you really have to go with just comes out. We've actually got into fights about this and his friend. Thank you spent so much time on the toilet to what do I do is normal. Help feed them. More cheese is extra cheese all the time on everything I mean it does take like twenty minutes. We Wanna say that's but if you need to go fast you can you can. Sometimes things are out of your control like how fast takes to clean. It's just it's just a relaxing place. It's like going to a SPA. You know don't get bin Laden. Spas I like to take shit slave. You're going to a SPA became a problem. You'd have to address. I would just get a day and say you you get and you get out. I know exactly how long this day it should take to clean your but yeah and if you go anything else that's that's extra that's free time for jerking off off to well heads up probably jerk off. Also if you're at a family function you need that fifteen minute block and check your phone because when you come out you can't be on your phone. The best is that we're getting into it. We're getting close to Thanksgiving and Christmas. But the best is the best advice for any family functions. Always be the guy who go run an Errand Errand Guy Guy is the best because you can take as long as you want. And that's just time you don't have to be sitting in the house like mindlessly doing nothing. Why do guys put pictures with professional cheerleaders on their dating profiles? Why are we always do? That's like that's just part of being a guy it's like scratch yourself. Sometimes you take when you sign sign up for bumble. You have to take that picture that you had at the Ravens calendar girl off at hooters. Yeah and then you have to slap that all over every single donald social media thing that you have that wrong. Was that the wrong thing to do. You want to show you know how to act normal around attractive women even if they were paid to be see there by the team and not paid well and yeah. It's if getting a signature from the entire cheerleading team on your calendar the U. Mart and brought for that occasion as weird. I don't WANNA be norm. Yeah and maybe getting the lips when she kissed her hand when you said hi tattooed on the back of your head. That's what guys do. Let's chicks know that you're safe and that you know you you can trust me you can be around me. I know how to put myself in the presence of an attractive woman. Yes absolutely all right last one sub. PMT Boys especially holiday. What holiday Hank not anymore? Forbidden from holidays. We're saying Merry Christmas Smith's by the way we're not doing happy holiday. We we say both but we can say merry Christmas again got it. I'm on the tree. I hate that fucking parents. When became the first year? It was a cool disaster tree. Sucks it sucks. I'M GONNA GO TREE IS A. It's a great place for a baby. That's going to bring my baby you. Oh same we as a group. That's I'll bring you. You're my baby. Refused puts you in the stroller. And we'll see the fucking tree hang. You're GONNA like it. It's the most commercialized sized tree and as a former Christmas salesman. Purest of that's not a fucking hit move so disaster sup. EMT teaboy specially holiday. Hank I'm on the fence on whether or not keep my boyfriend. He seems he seems to be yelling at Middle School Age. Kids on the new call of duty. Modern warfare concerned together threatening and calling children asked Fox and telling them he fucked their mom. Does alarming. Please help with much love Epstein. That's not her name okay. I played the new call of duty and I got killed seven thousand times in the first twenty minutes. Katie are are bad so I understand where he's coming from. It's fucking hard so keep them keep them I think.

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REShow: Jerry Rice. Hour 2 (10-01-19)

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REShow: Jerry Rice. Hour 2 (10-01-19)

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Od twenty-five our number to the rich Eisen show show is on the Air Warren Sapp just left our our midst and that was a heck of a conversation talking about Antonio Brown called sick and there is news on well Matt Front in terms of what the National Football League Players Association might do on Antonio Brown's behalf we also talked about his boxes new podcast cast who should be in the hall of fame at running back you say it shouldn't be frank or he took a tremendous issue at that and then talked about how there are running back with fewer yards in the hall of fame and and that there are fewer their other running backs who you can't tell you can tell the story story of the NFL without and mentioned our buddy td in that regard they're all in everybody's all in all one big happy family family indeed some great fun stuff about. Dwayne Johnson a couple s bombs about the rock so we have that you also mentioned avantis perfect his his resume certainly had a lot to do with with his suspension for the rest of the year that might be appealed to Derrick Brooks. We're the waiting to hear If if it's debriefs are not Jamal Adams is gonNA join us in our number three the culture changing talent. That's in the back end of jets defense that still looking for its first win. He will be on this program. David Boreanaz the star of CBS's seal team is a diehard eagles fan loves fantasy football great chat with him when he joins his Jerry. He writes right in the middle of this hour you as well eight four four zero four rich. We'll take your phone calls this hour but I I WANNA get Chris. Brockman news update brought to you by our friends at Honda PROC met with Federal Live or board rock men with the new Honda. Hr V. Stupendous Lee Stylish and available with all wheel will draw the HIV is ready to team up your next adventure so hurry into your local Honda dealer today Chris. What do you have a right updating some of these. NFL Injuries Jerry Jones said that it's unlikely left off tackle tyron. Smith will play this week against Green Bay but he did say that he they did get good news. Regarding tyron Smith Ankle injury probably only gonNA miss about a week. We couldn't have asked for better news. Jerry said looking forward to having him back out there. Quick Ian Rapoport also said that Smith might only miss one weeks of good news. It's a big week though man here come the a pack outlook and they come in off many by We'll keep an eye on Davante Adams in his status for the game that week he he'd left a hundred eighty yards cards into that game with a turf toe problem that that usually isn't just a day to day. We'll see you next week thing. That's that's a we'll see later on in the month type of thing yeah we'll see when he gets back out there this week. buffalo bills head coach. Sean McDermott said yesterday preparing to start a map Barkley for Josh Allen who remains in concussion protocol aw Jay Gruden hasn't named a starter yet for the redskins. They play the Patriots this week. Gruden said a decision would come on who gives team the best chance to win. Patriots are fifteen point favorites lerna minute. Let's just pause here for a second. It's just weird. It's just really really weird. The Washington Situation Yeah Yeah Yeah. I understand Haskins not starting the season that I get yeah especially since again. Ryan Day the head coach in Columbus the offensive coordinator last year asked asked about Haskins and he said that about Haskins perhaps not starting the season this was back in August and he said that he and Urban Meyer actually we had a conversation about whether Haskins should start the season for Ohio state in his last year because of how green he was we all know threw fifty touchdowns needed wound up being fifteenth overall and he doesn't start the season columnist does totally get that Daniel Dote. Jones doesn't doesn't totally get that. Jones gets start week three as we discuss with Warren Sapp in the last hour about the bucks defense needing to tighten up in in a way that he's concerned about Warren that Jones lights it up starts again. haskins still can't get a sniff. I asked Joel Klatt this on Friday he was part of the draft coverage of the NFL network last year and he drops that he's he's heard there was a split in the draft room over Haskins and a rift stands today because I asked him if he was surprised that he hasn't started yet even with keenum and a walking boot the coach wasn't saying we're going to start asking this week or he could get ready. We need to get him ready. You're hearing about Colt McCoy. That's right and every coach of a highly drafted quarterback where first round selected quarterback. We'll be talking the kid up now. This could be tough love I again. I don't know what's going on. There but GRUDEN does not sound like a guy that that is all in on his quarterback. My thoughts might be colored by the fact that we heard from Klatt last week. Pat Shurmur Shurmur was talking up. Daniel Jones like crazy couldn't wait to get him in there. It felt like cliff. Kingsbury talked about his quarterback in college. When he had no idea you might be able to coach his quarterback in Colorado. It's just weird. It's all kinds of weird. It's it's Washington. DC Weird which is normal today. They've been H. T. T. R. Weird Hashtag or a basket of dysfunction for the last twenty years. Write that down basket of dysfunction great fantasy team name thank you it's just weird and we're going to go with the guy where the best chance to win. What are we talking about here. Alwyn four is one. You put the kid in the game and you give them reps the whole damn week now again. New England is not the smart. I idea if you WANNA protect them and you're looking over the steering wheel for long term. And how do you say that without ruining the kids confidence. You put Colt McCoy coy out there if keenum can't go against New England but you also don't put Haskins in the middle of a game where I guess it was winnable. You heard Gruden say that when Haskins got in the game there was still hope right. You don't throw them out there in the middle of a football game. When are you going to do it though that Miami Emme next week. Damn straight yeah home from San Francisco. Haskins doesn't start Miami then you know something is severely up severely up because it's a road contest. It's no weather issues. If it's really hot no big deal right. He can make all the checks at the line. You don't have to worry about a silence. Snap count because the crowd is silent because there is no crowd. I'm serious. I'm not being facetious. Che's here yeah what else bad news for. The panthers they placed Cohen Short on injured reserve to end his twenty nineteen season bummer. Yeah that's a bummer shoulder injury there steelers coach. Mike Tomlin said James Connor still being evaluated he banged up his ankle last night in the win and there could be limited this week how he practices will disc dictate how if he's available against the Ravens okay moving onto the Antonio Brown situation here the NFL Foyer Association scheduled hold a conference call today to determine how to proceed on Antonio Brown's grievances ESPN's Dan Grazziano reporting reporting so Brown's grievances and appeals part of his legal battle to try to get back more than sixty one million dollars that he believes he's owed to him. He's going to be the first player. NFL history defile nine grievances and appeals at the same time so I'm looking up right here on the screen. He's he was fined two hundred fifty thousand dollars for the raiders. He's appealing that the twenty nine million dollars in guarantees and his signing bonus and his unpaid week one salary. I mean you've gotta be kidding me. What leg do you have to stand on that front. I mean if the language of the contract as reported is language in the contract. Can you put that up on the screen one more time time please then you've got the Patriots who he was without the from what I'm reading. He does have more of a case against the Patriots because they patriots sign them. Then the civil stuff civil suit came out rank. They didn't do anything they played them. In a game they played him so they can't sit here and say well. The civil lawsuit was something that was to tangible. They can say that Eh the texts from sports illustrated the texts not from the sports report that led to the texts after they played the game. That's it's when they bounced him and they bounced him two days before or three days before the three day would have to pay him nine million. Dala guaranteed signing bonus. He may have a case. I don't know but he wants his option year for twenty twenty and that is some serious. Kahane's that's twenty million million dollars for his option near twenty twenty okay. Was it just a player option or the the Patriots have a say in there. They opt to do something to too good luck. Maybe he's GonNa take some business. Affairs course at Central Michigan the response I got from me tweeting out that he's blocked me makes me think that there was a tweet from him about central Michigan and his courses. It's it's it said the whole thing said soup to nuts what else Chris about oh okay so a more on this pay for play California bill that was signed yesterday by Gavin newsom while guys reacting to this we'll I'll start with draymond green who talked about the NCAA. Being a dictatorship spent so much time colored broke and with no money yet. Everybody else was living very well. universities making a ton of money off your likeness. It is the most like I think he used the word bankrupt model and it is. It's like it doesn't it does does not make any sense. I can make all the money off your likeness and the moment you decide to make some money off your likeness. You can't play here anymore. You you're ineligible. You're suspended is backwards. You know someone needs to force this dictatorship to change because that's exactly what it is. It's no different than any country. That's ran by dictators. NCAA is a dictatorship so he's referring referring to he. He's referring Garin Gavin newsom calling it a bankrupt system and let's hear from Lebron because Lebron was asked why this is so per yes yes. He was okay sure I would have been one of those state about it went off to any one of these big time colleges were pretty much that twenty three. Jersey what sold all over the place without my name on a bag but everybody would have known the likeness my body would have been on the NCAA basketball game in two thousand and four and five seen center would have been sold out every single night there so you know oh coming from the me and my mom we didn't have anything we wouldn't have been able to benefit from it and the University of able to capitalize on everything that I would have been there for that year or two or whatever so understand with those kids are going through. I feel for those who've been going through for so long so that's that's why I personally. I mean you cannot argue with a single thing that Lebron James Just said not one. He is wrong about one thing and he knows it too. He went to stay day two years. No it's the state that he almost went to in all seriousness. Did you see their state has already introduced produced bill in its state legislature for the same thing which that to be enacted in twenty twenty the state of Florida. Oh No way good luck kicking them out of the NCWA and that's what I'm saying. NCW's response can't be with Jean Smith of Ohio of of Lebron's favourite university who is a co-chair of the working group that has been formed to look into this issue by the NC double back in May. That's how long they've been at it and his response was well. We'll just you know kick California out of the NCWA. I'm paraphrasing but that was what he essentially said right. The answer can't be okay. We'll kick Florida to the NCW senator statement that does make sense in the regard like we can't just have states figuring stuff out correct you however can't be trusted to figure it out so the states have had to act because you can't figure it out and you can't be trusted to figure it out because your first response is as well. We'll just kick the state of California. Well Good Luck doing that with Florida. Tell it's common. Let's figure it out and this whole business of how it's going to ruin everything because the buddy garrity of the world are going to ruin it. I'm serious like now. I know all of a sudden. How is you know Kent State going to be able to compete with Ohio State. Pardon v Kent State and veal how state how are they going to compete if buddy garrity and Columbus says come on out to Columbus you know dealership and you get one hundred thousand dollars or you get a million because I really want to win a college basketball this year. How can that compete against Kent State. They can't but can't state wasn't competing with the Ohio state now anyway and if the kid is in a situation as Lebron was growing up. He deserves a piece of this if he's GonNa fill up your arena and your pro shop New York State Caroline other states that are coming down the pike here. Dan Wetzel wrote a great column last night on Yahoo. I saw you tweeted about. I read it three or tweet. Check it out all right Do you have one last item because I'd like to take a break and get my four downs in before Jerry Rice calls into the real quick baseball playoffs start two nights on interesting article about ticket prices any guests which team has the highest secondary market ticket price for their game. I will go with the New York Yankees four hundred and eleven dollars per ticket on average how for LDS Saint Louis Second to thirty-five the dodgers are all the way down. That's impressive. The cardinals are next the Astros and then the raise the race fourth Did it sticky trying to drive the price up on his on seats. He's the only race fan I know of. Good luck to you guys teams and I know I know what I'm doing. At four o'clock eastern on Friday settling Linin first pitch and the twins put the leadoff run around see this is over and over. You always have the music show rich. 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Russian throws a wide the touchdown Johnson forty three yards and the steelers are having fun Football Bill Hillgrove with the call the longtime voice of the steelers and it was a nice moment for Johnson who fumbled the ball earlier on in the game that led to the only points the night for the Cincinnati Bengals and you saw Ju- Smith Schuster go over and console him as as ESPN had she Juju Smith Schuster wired for sound and it was just an interesting moment right there and redemption and that's how I found out that Antonio Brown blocked me because I sent out a tweet saying after Johnson fumbled. It's hard to imagine a more disappointing position group. This season ran the steelers wide receivers. China line up help out at team Juju in the aftermath of AB eighty four. No I tag them talk about. I'll tag him didn't show up couldn't find like eighty four and I'm like did. He blocked me sure enough. That's brought to you by our friends at capital one on which is reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts but no fees or minimums and one of the nation's best savings rates capital one. What's in your wallet eight four four two zero four rich number to dial. We'll take your phone calls promise. If you're on hold stay on hold. WE'RE GONNA get to Jerry Rice shortly I WANNA get to my four downs here post week four at the quarter post point of the NFL twenty nineteen nfl one hundred season hit my downs with rich. I I my first down is the Atlanta Falcons. are in deep deep trouble. They are one in three. They have lost to the titans at home. They have lost a horrible fashion. At Minnesota. They have gone down in Indianapolis which obviously was a little bit more hamstrung with some players that played against the Falcons weren't around for the raiders there one in three green and now they go to the Texans Texans are liquid licking their wounds from a home loss. If the Falcons don't pull this off they are one and four and then they start playing Ryan against the saints including one time. That drew brees returns. They've got the Arizona cardinals in Arizona Week six. Ask Mike McCarthy if he how that supposed Gimme game went for him and think about what could possibly happen to Dan Quinn again Arthur Arthur you you know Arthur blank. in Atlanta is a patient I sometimes it can run in quickly. I I'd be genuinely concerned concern right here certainly since he coughed up a ton of cash for Julio Jones at the beginning of the season. I'm sure he was told that this is important for team. Chemistry team bonding from Fort for for Julio to get them out on the field any only one win so far. I'm genuinely concerned about the Atlanta Falcons. They could turn it around and have a great season but it needs to start right now. That's I down down second down. Put the put the topic bar at the bottom. I'll read it off to start off my second. Down is the unknown forty one percent. What do I mean by that interesting forty one percent of the NFL is to to to forty one percent of the national. Oh football league is right at five hundred of the four week mark. You tell me who are the raiders. Who are the bucks. Who are the giants Who are the Vikings. Who are the Eagles. Who are the Ravens. Who are the panthers. Who are the Jaguars. Who are the Texans. Who are the chargers. Who are the colts. It's and who are the browns you tell me 'cause. I don't know they've been up. They've been down. They've shown signs of life to be playoff calamander. They've shown no sense at all about how to be a playoff team. They're all over the map part of it may be because in preseason football is no longer what it was in order to get people. The reps and September is now kind of your preseason teams. Is there now maybe the packers defense was better in the first three weeks. 'cause offenses need the three weeks like they do in training camp that they didn't get in August and is that the packers akers defense we're going to see her the first three weeks so on and so forth and that packers the three in one the unknown forty one percents something keep an eye on moving forward Ford. Let's go to third down okay as we're getting ready for. Jerry Rice your third down. We've already gotten some big tiebreaks in back. Pockets of some teams through four weeks just been one quarter of the season but some big tiebreaks already in hand like say Philadelphia over Green Bay that come in handy later on in January sorry how about New Orleans over Dallas and Seattle should those teams have the same record come January what about the rams over New Orleans and that's a possible interesting tie-break and this is all just based on last year's playoff standings there might have already been some tiebreaks that come in handy later on but those the ones that leap out to me would have said New England over Pittsburgh but Big Ben's gone and Mason Rudolph looks to be training wheels on a little bit right here. That's third down now. Let's get to fourth it down. Oh my favorite part of the week hot take plank time. What are you got from this week. Buddy okay here we go. I have no idea what the heck's going on in Washington. DC with their quarterback situation at all. I cannot believe the Denver broncos moving. Even the ball between the two thousand. S Can't get it in the end zone worth lick. The defense finally was put in a a quarterback on the turf but their own for the jets our our own three and might be starting Luke Falk this week and then Sam Darnold on his spleen could be getting back against the New England patriots. I'm GonNa say this yes right now with the bengals looking the way they did and who knows what the cardinals on going to say in fourth down the Miami Dolphins will not be the last winless team in the NFL okay certainly with Miami taken on Washington coming up in a couple of weeks. He's got twice against. It's the jets I. Everybody thinks that they're tanking for good reason. I'M GONNA go out and say my fourth down. The dolphins will not be the last winless team some of two thousand nineteen. That's my four down. Okay that's brought to you by my friends at capital one capital on his reimagined banking offering savings and checking accounts with no fees no minimums and one of the nation's best savings rates capital one. What's in your Wallet Approval Required Capital One. NA member FDIC I see he is the greatest receiver of all time and I did not stutter and right behind him now in terms of all time receptions the guy who is covering for the show that I host just on EPIX at NFL the grind he is none other than pro football hall of Famer at Jerry Rice also here courtesy of our friends from San Francisco in Rice Aronie rice and Pasta Roni if you will to chat with Jerry Rice. How are you sir doing better for talking to you man. Oh Man. It's good to hear your voice right back at you. How was it to be a correspondent for. NFL Grind watching Larry this past go good you know because we always granted. That's one thing about us in in to be able to give the fans and exclusive inside the head head of one of the greatest receivers to ever play the game with Larry Fitzgerald so I had it'd be on the field and this guy he was just everything everything that you know. He was well one thing a rich. Here's the deal doing the entire time on the field. If I whenever warming Larry Camp throwing me to football so you know if I can tame is running drills like that to warm up you know pre game and all of that then he would throw me the ball he just kept coming over so you know I was just hoping that he he broke the record and he was able to you know catch the ball and pass the Tony than dollars which Tony he is he was unexceptional. tidying he played the game a certain way and you know it was great. See Larry accomplish this that and become second now jerry what what just try and put a a mere mortal. That's listening to us or watching US right now so in in the shoes of of what makes Larry so great that you know because you embodied that greatness yourself. It's a difference between being good good in great and then there's a difference between great and and one of the all time greats Jerry. What what is that intangible? I think the thing is is is is having a combination of so many different things so many different qualities his hands he doesn't draw football's the way he can run rows out in rows and position themselves If another thing his knowledge about the game of football his also his mentor ship a path in the game onto other players so I think he's a great ambassador cord a game of football and I'll go to in Abell Jerry the rice year on the rich Eisen show who is in your mind the second greatest receiver of all time my God they put me on the spotlight because it's Nice Job Jerry and I'm also very curious people would and I don't think you're no denigrating anybody else. Who's WHO's number one we know. Who has you know man. I put Larry Fitzgerald up there. You know you know. He's he's still playing at a very high level. I you know I love his approach to the game. the way he condition the waiting condition yourself. He's always in top shape he's go out and and always give it one hundred percent. I would have to say Larry Fitzgerald and who is the toughest that you ever faced guarding you Dion Sanders and Darryl Green two of the fastest cornerback play the game so it was important for me to to try to win at the line of scrimmage if I had to double move triple move and try to get them off their base because when you got to fast cornerback like that what they want you to do just relieved because they they knew that they run with you and and so I would would have to give it to those two guys one of my favorite lines having been around dion as long as I have Jerry Rice is at the combine when he watches cornerbacks cornerbacks in the weight and reps room have to put up to twenty five pounds as many times as possible. He laughs just like that San Eh. It's ridiculous he goes. I never had to put jerry rice across my chest. Lift Him. That's the Lonnie always uses yeah you know be on. We had some great battles in you know we still talk about those days and the thing that comes to mind is so weird because when we had to face each other we didn't sleep you know we were up all night long thinking about the game and speaking about the opportunities that we would have doing that ballgame he. He wants them battles. I want some battles but that was a lot of respect our back and and did he ever tell. Did you know he had a tower where he put his feet or the way he moved his his hands or because. I'm sure he was watching you the same way yeah you know what when when. Dion came over to the San Francisco Forty niners back in one of those guys that Lady's uniform out of serving way. He always had these boxers on that he's put on dollars. I'm like delicacies regimen delicacies a tradition thing like that but man when this guy stepped on the football field I mean he was almost like Superman in in what he was able to do so jerry rice here on the rich Eisen show wants when's the first time you met Bill Walsh when you knew that you remember the forty niners and here we go walk me through that Jerry well when I got that call them be awash and it was like it was like a dream come true and then to meet this guy and he had this Arab him and you know he was not only a coach not was more you know he was like a father to me and he gave me opportunity to know chase my dream and play for the San after Cisco Forty matters one of the greatest down steady ever you know there's something I'll never forget and look who's got the the only remaining undefeated record in the NFC right now and the two thousand nineteen football season Jerry Yang three in old right now and you know last week you know they returned to ball over on offense they had about five in they gotta go back and they gotta make those corrections do that. Then I you know I think the team gene can you know continue to win but it's just one game at a time. WHO's the best receiver in the NFL today move Larry from its and she sees you put them up up there in terms of an all time great the one that you you'd think has got a tremendous amount of talent young. What have you give me. I think I think Julio Jones I mean he's a beast on the football field that can run by you he he's off the land stretch and you know he can always position in his body to make a difficult catch. Jerry Rice here on the rich Eisen show. Tell me about the Reis pasta-roni that you're what is what's going on here with the San Francisco treat right here well yeah you just hit it right on the nose you know right to Romania. We we're both The San Francisco treat and and my partner with all right Aronie and even thought about changing my name to Jerry Rice Rony. He'll kidding yeah you know the thing about that rich how that would look on Jersey and you know would tell getting in football is going full force right now it was it's always easy for me to run perfect route or you know make win and catch or something like that but what I like with Aronie they have so many variety. I mean varieties and another thing too you know when I when I played the game always had to go to rich and you know when it comes to tailgating is a Jalapeno okay might be on a football field goal team right DOT com. If you want more info okay yeah I and you go to go team. Rice Dot Com for more information you can win prizes cash and another Mooch. I know would love at pasta-roni. He's he's all about the Pasta Mariuccia. It is a funny guy man. He dressed up as someone that you George he put on the George Jerry Yeah but but I I still can't believe Mooch realize how many Pat Carroll Orange colored you know 'cause I remember. I counted them. It was about twenty and it was supposed to be going away Jerry. You know we bring that up with Steve. All the time and I'm glad you open that door to allow me to barge through it. SORTA like the Kool delayed guy so you know we bring up the fact that on Jerry Rice Day he gave Tarallo in so many targets he caught twenty any jerry called twenty balls and I remember making that presentation to a terrible after the game by giving him the game ball but it was supposed to be my going away but you but you know moves chip kept saying you know I didn't realize he had called so many pads a- and I was like yeah I knew he did tell us that you did communicate that in a way jerry the are we we on the same field but I love man. MUCCI is one of the all time greats just a a great human and Jerry Rice good to chat with you we will chat with you further down the line and thanks for doing that for the for nfl the grind. I can't wait to see you out there with Larry. I I saw you also playing golf for them as well it just it's neat off the field. The whole thing it'll be great took some money from Larry Right nope. Would you care. I tried to get him to find out that hundred hundred dollar bill but he wouldn't do it okay. There's still there's still time Jerry their story. Take care of yourself all right you got Jerry Rice here on the rich Eisen. Show uh-huh at Jerry Rice on twitter at Jerry Rice eighty on instagram. Oh Man I'm I do I bring what do I not always on a tour. He's probably got another call you got to do. I bring he brought it up. He brought it up. Oh we tell Mucci time now. Mooch tells a story that he sensed. Shall we say in real time. Jerry's disappointment that it's his day hey and he's hardly getting any catches. You know receivers want the ball and terrel owens would get twenty catches twenty recept Tara Hall of Famer his career high in single game receptions came on Jerry Rice. Stay twenty. I do believe Steve Mooch put Jerry back in the game that was already decided to go over and get asked for the ooh baby. December seventeen th two thousand yes sir being looked at up. We'll come back. It'll be great stats to tell that's next on the rich Eisen show. Don't you dare move still to come your phone calls that will take Jamal Adams and David Boreanaz an hour number three. Let's talk about sleep number. I love my sleep number bed. My sleep number setting is sixty. My Wife's is seventy. It's just ten numbers apart but I'll tell you what it is the world of difference because you get to set your side of the bed to the way you want it. It is the reason reason why it's the smart choice for better sleep. 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Bob Won both why you're because there's a chance that you might not get a whole lot of money like this. That's true that's why I'm saying you get one and then you have the ability to go out and figure it out. I am mandated. Ask what what is your favorite show of all time. The Roy Williams show so I'm a Monday night well North Carolina Tar Heel Bob Jabil here in the rich Eisen show let's go to Mario in in Lincoln Nebraska Home of what Gabrielle Union and Kurt Warner's favourite Nebraska cornhuskers what's going on. I actually had a number of frank rich good morning a number of friends who wanted to pay me a large amount of money to run around College Game Day and a K state speedo but I just couldn't bring myself to do that. Mario you've got the rabbitohs yeah man. I you know a couple of things on this in terms of the paper place. I think it's really important that everybody remember reminds themselves. That have difficult it is for College Daphne and most of those kids are there just for the opportunity to take it to the next level. The majority of them were never going to make it to that next level so I think it's a great opportunity for for them to to to add a revenue stream. That's non existent man and I think it's important. I'm not a big fan of pay. Pay For play but I do. You think athletes should receive payment if their likenesses ever used. I think one of the big things is before you start paying athletes though I think there needs needs to be really the responsibility of the university to make sure that those kids know what to do financially with that extra money because how many times have we seen kids come out of college and they signed big big big deal big contracts big endorsement deals and then they're broke three years later so I think the universities need to add a financial responsibility there before you can be paid for that likeness or even before you could be paid to play. We need to make sure that you know what you're GonNa do with that money. Once you've got it and then my second point is is in nobody's nobody's said this and this is me the most excited if players were finally paid for their likeness. We would finally get our beloved. NCAA football fall back on xbox and playstation and that would be awesome all right that's now. You're now Super Mario Nebraska here and the richeisenshow look I I. I don't think I understand where he's coming from and you got to protect as much as you can. If you do have kids in your midst but but they're also in your employees I mean they really are when you're on a football or a basketball team. You're making so much money and if somebody is a stud he he or she on a on a swim team or if you will one of the Lesser Sports sports let them go out and and get whatever scratch they can make camps and autograph signings or tutoring mentoring kids. Hey come AH learn learn how to swim. One of the top swimmers of all time they want to make some extra cash inside right now they can and maybe there could be parameters of a limit limit of what you can get for. What a car dealership or something or maybe. I don't know all I'm saying is the sky never fell on the Olympics when they decided to professionalize it. That's we're still waiting on that. That's Bilas point the number of times year. Oh Gosh the death of amateurism is going to ruin everything and it hasn't but the reason why California's Donnette and other states are going to follow suit and the NCWA may file suit to prevent it is because the NC double a. can't be trusted a figure it out on its own and seems to be with their reaction so far. We'll just kick you out unwilling to figure out it's out on its own. Your phone calls eight four four two zero four rich. We appreciate your call and we'll take him while we can with Jamal Adams of the New York jets coming off off a bye week. I've got a I've got a lot to talk about with him. I want him actually. It's going to be a two way street. I need him to buck me up. K and David Bory Oriana is gonNA. Join US on this program. That's next football season is here and it's time to dominate the competition with your fantasy picks and RJ bells green green preview on podcast one sports net is your secret weapon to victory. I said the fact they didn't run enough in week. 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Always triple eight say ESPN that's eight seven to nine three seven seven six to Stephen Smith show on the road is being presented by progressive insurance. It's live from Atlanta for coverage of the big game. That would be Super Bowl fifty three this Sunday evening. It's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. My apologies. So those out there. I don't sound like myself. I feel great. I'm not sick or anything like that. I just lost. My damn voice. I've done about literally about twenty seven different interviews over the last thirty six hours. So because of that my voice is a little bit shot. But I'm here, and I'm gonna plug on through the great Jerry Rice will be on the show with us in just a minute. So I wanted to stay before he comes on his show one. It's let everybody in New York. Know that I'm going to touch on this Kristaps Porzingis trait at some point because his the deal a lot of people are getting on the New York Knicks and your your you've gotten pundits. And everybody talked about New York Knicks getting the past. Let's be very very clear, the New York Knicks suck. Okay. Let me be very very clear for those that think that somehow, someway, I'll pull punches I believe in Steve mills, and I believe in Scott Perry, and I believe the future in which they're trying to take this franchise into but the Knicks stink and they have stunk. And that's why I'm so supportive of this move. Because if a guy like Kristaps Porzingis comes to you and tells you I don't want to be here. If you try to keep me here, you don't trade me I'm going to sign a qualifying offer and a qualifying offer mandated by the league's collective bargaining rule. Stipulates that you can only signed for one year. And after that one year, you are an unrestricted free agent. You essentially stripped the team that you're on a all the leverage that they have for you. So in order for the New York Knicks to maximize the value that they have the Kristaps zingers. They had to make a move now because you didn't wanna keep him. Onboard telling you he wanted out essentially indicating the you that he was gonna let perspective free agents know that he wanted out, and I'd advise you not to come here as well. You can't let somebody like that stay on your team when you're trying to attract a marquee free agent in the offseason, which is why you turn around you move him. You create seventy five million dollars in cap space, giving you enough dollars to get to max players, and it puts you in the running to compete with the Brooklyn nets to compete with the lost Angeles Clippers to compete with teams like the Lakers, the Dallas Mavericks and others for the marquee free agents out there is the only chance you have. Now, does it work. Hell, no. We don't it doesn't work until you get those free agents, the New York Knicks on the clock there under immense pressure to get something for losing porzingas. But understand they had no choice in my estimation. Because the man didn't want to stay there. He wasn't going to stay here. And nobody was going to come. If they had to come by themselves to join the New York Knicks and the be the successor to porzingus instead of playing alongside porzingas. That's why you had to let him go. But I'll get an all of that a little bit more as the show progresses. Right. Here's Stephen Smith show ESPN radio. ESPN news is my man on the line right now is the greatest wide receiver in the history of the National Football League. The three top four time champion three time four time champions, Jerry rights is he on the line right now is Jerry Rice there. Maybe was going on big, Tom. How're you man? Jerry Rice, ladies and gentlemen. Jerry Rice is on the line, which yours truly. How are you? My man. How's everything going? Everything's good, man. Another Super Bowl. Here we go. Did I ever tell you that? I'm still mad at you, and my anger towards you has been dating back years, and I have to tell you what you talking about. You mentioned quite you came off, right? Quite frankly years ago when I have on television show on ESPN tubes a decade ago. Okay. Just finished doing dancing with the stars. And if I recall winning dancing with the stars. No, I did not win. No, no. Would you do what you to run came? Yes. I did. I got to beat Shane. Okay. Well, let me tell you something you're dance pretty damn good. And you came quite frankly, and you show dance moves that. I couldn't imitate. So as it was wrong because everybody knows I can't incident, and you all your food to take some lessons. It's all your fault. Well, you don't be blaming me. I am blaming you. Because dammit, you can't I can't I can't help you dance. What you try? I'm not to pay me to give you lessons. Don't play NFL football anymore. I need a job come on. Now. Jerry Rice, first of all what have you been doing? Which is because you're on behalf of NFC. First of all talk about what you're doing with Hennessy, and what's going on with that. Let's yeah. Hennessy is they have of a righty of COMEX cognac brandy and is made in cognac France and two hundred fifty years they have celebrated this with their customers. And you have the never stop the never settle attitude, and that was something that I did in professional football. So hey with the big Super Bowl coming up probably gonna be Hennessy on rocks are might go to Hennessy x ole which is extra extra old. You know, what I'm saying brother, so Hennessy dot com slash US. You know, Jerry. I I mean, I listened to you right now. And I I don't know if you notice do, you know, the Hennessy's my favorite drink. I drink. See coke every weekend. At least agree on something. It relaxes me. It definitely relaxed. She'll good that we can agree on something brother has never stopped. Never settle. I mean, you did it as a football player. I do it with my my career in television, never stopped never subtle. I'm constantly after it. So I've taken lessons from one of the greatest if not degraded of all time, while unquestionably the grades wide receiver and NFL history, the one and only Jerry Rice as you stand here for Super Bowl. Fifty three was the first thing jumping into your mind about this particular match it with New England versus the Los Angeles. Rams. I think it's just that. Even even though I'm not playing in a game nervous. I was always nervous doing big games. And but it brought out the best in me. You look at New England. Yeah. You know, they got the experience they got probably one of the greatest quarterbacks over play the game. You know, they have a legitimate running game. They got a go-to guy, which I feel is element. Then you got gronk. So they got some weapons on offense. They have a good defense. The Rams, you know, they don't have all of that experience. They don't have all that knowledge about you know, being on the big stage. But then you got Donald you guys sue and they're going to have to get the Tom Brady and try to rattle him a little bit. And then a secondary going to have to do a good job of you know, keeping everything underneath. You know as interesting you bring that up because here's what I'm looking at. We've talked so much about Tom Brady and the greatness of Tom Brady, I don't understand how that hasn't enabled us to transition to Jared Goff being a third year quarterback going up against a genius, Bill Belichick. How come nobody's brought that up? You know, I think the thing is to in. Stephen hit. Here's the deal. And I always say this, and no one felt that Clemson would beat Alabama. So well, I certainly think they was gonna beat their what's the way to. They did let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. So Dwight Clark went to Clemson. Okay. Dow both sweetie wanted me to come in and talk to the team the Saturday before that money, you know, game go in talked to the team, and I talked to the team about teamwork and working together. And and one that the guy next to you got got your back. And you know, I talked to the receivers by using double move. Triple moves coming off the line of stretch. And these guys, you know, they talk about their defense as being one of the best. I said you guys going to get a chance to go up against the best team Alabama. How you going to respond to that? So I feel you know, as a as a as a team the ramczyk a little it chance you got to be able to slay that dragon. So they deserve to be here. But Tom Brady is not gonna make it easy for him. And and and the patriots they deserve to be here. So it should be a good football game is interesting that you told me you win that locker room the Saturday before. That Monday night national championship game between and Alabama. 'cause this kid Justin Rose, a true freshman out of L, right? Clemson over Alabama. I mean, my God we might be about him comparing him to you in years to come. That's bad young bed. Young mayor at your what he was doing. He was killing it, then he hit me up on social media. He said, Jerry I used that. Triple double movie, you told me to do. So it made me feel good, man. But then, you know, trouble Lawrence the freshman special. I've met this guy when he was important. He was at a Nike camp. And the way he threw the ball his composure. It was just like it was just unreal. The way he played in the football game, Jerry resolute, Jerry Rice. Let me move on with this quick. First of all, let's get right to it. Who you picking the win this game? You don't think guy is hard for me to pick one. All I ever diction. Whoever wins this game. Guess what they're gonna do. They gonna be toasting with Hennessy. I'm I'm at at that they're gonna be Hennessy and our -plore debt. But I'm who the hell is going to be Tom Brady Bill check or Jerry golf, and Sean McVay. We'll have to wait and watch it watch this play out, man. What matter which? What? Hall of fame of experts. Scared to make predictions. Joe don't make me come through this this wire to get to you. You ain't got you. Don't wanna mention maybe you don't wanna make me. Let me tell you one more thing that parent and they're saying, you know, who's the goat. There's a for. I was. I was next to you for tardy of goats in NFL and basketball. I don't care if you doctor if you'll lawyer there's a fraternity. I understand. And I understand that means you're losing to hesitation to pick one. Well, I'm gonna ask you to any damn way. They talking about Tom Brady and acting like Tom Brady should be the goat over Joe Montana. Your quarterback that helped the liver some Super Bowl championships to you are you of that feeling jer? What did I just say to you? I said there's a fraternity of goes. Yes, Tom Brady is a goat. Yes. Joe Montana is a goat. Yeah. You're not taking one over you or go, Stephen Smith. You'll goat man. Appreciate his of all time. Appreciate that. Thank you so much, and I'm touched by that. But. Check in the mail, man. Dan, right. I ain't gonna put the check in the middle. But I still wanna know Tom Brady compared to Joe Montana because you play. Era. Okay. The different Arab. And and what he's doing at the age of forty one. You know, you've got to take your head off to all seriousness Jerry Rice because we got Jerry Rice here on behalf of Hennessy the greatest wide receiver in the history of the national football, right? Hit was Stephen ESPN radio. ESPN news. You've been on a record being supportive of the great Antonio Brown of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ultimately coming to San Francisco how you wanted to be traded. He wants out of Pittsburgh. He wants to be he wants to come to San Francisco. Here's where I'm surprised you. And I love Antonio do. Go ahead. Here's where I'm surprised you were a you were a model of professionalism throughout your career, you strongly believe in put your head down putting in the work and just being great at what you did. You wasn't about the drama in it by any stretch of the imagination. Clearly, a B is to some degree. And he's even taught us that because as much love my man Teo. From a pub bliss ity. Steven Steven where you're going with this man, where you're going to get my question to you is shot that you've been so supportive of AB come in the San Francisco as opposed to him work and things out Pittsburgh. Okay. Let me break this down real fast. But you I did not contact AB. He contacted me. I know the fans from Pittsburgh. Are you guys met at me? Why you mad at me? He contacted me say, hey, Jerry, look, you know, I would love to work out with you. And then the conversation changed a little bit. He said, yeah. You know, maybe San Francisco, I said, man, I say San Francisco, I said, if we could bring you to San Francisco, man, I mean with the players that we have in place right now, God, this is going to send a message to the fans that we're not waiting and trying to win two or three years down the road. We're trying to win right now. And we'll see if you're thinking about. Objectively say, it's something your favorite in the San Francisco for nine you saying damn all them other people. I want them to San Francisco. That's what you say. It's not my choice that's up to Kevin Lynch and also John Lynch. I mean, I mean John Shanahan. In cal- Shanahan that's up to those guys. Stephen a Smith. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just delivering the message got it. You see what I'm saying? And we would love to have him in San Francisco. I got to be honest with you, man, because the way where are you living these days, I'll I'm seeing northern California, man. Yeah. We need hang out sometime. You know what? This. California. I live half Hennessy on rocks. Yeah. I know you like him see and coke and stuff. I did we can chill man. You know, what it is is damn cold? What you're talking about where you told me about coding or the California. I'll be damned if it ain't look I had to go through Chicago one year for championship game. And it was like in the teens. You gonna tell me you Fairweather. Like that man. When I hit a words, California. I'm thinking warm sunshine palm trees, if I don't hear that associated with California. I have no use Ford. That's me. Todo? Was a tough guy, man. Cold weather hail. No, i'm. Admit it. Appreciate you. My man. I'm proud of you as always always good to talk to you hear from you all the best to you. Okay. Man. I love you, man. You all time. Yeah. All right. My men play the one and only Jerry Rice the greatest wide receiver in the history of the National Football League right here with Steven A, ESPN radio ESPN news. I really don't understand what the hell say right now, you're not willing to admit that you just have a personal affinity for the San Francisco forty nine. Why the hell would you suggest that Antonio Brown needs to be there? I got a state this for the record. I'm before I get back to porzingas. I'm really sick and tired of this. Love porn star. Jimmy gets. That's right. Jimmy Garoppolo this right? Porn star. Jimmy. That's what I called him. And you know, let me give an inside joke because as Mickey Mouse, you know, ESPN is Walt Disney's, you know, they own us. Oh, just as Mickey Mouse. And everybody's always in an up rule. You know, my producer just, you know, just do my producer right over there. Jonathan went to one of the wildest, dude, you wanna meet in my life and your life, but I'll say porn star Jimmy and his face cringes. Ooh. You know, Tim with it. The producers back in Bristol, Connecticut, New York, cal- LA, everyday do excuse me. Jimmy Garoppolo without with a pool and star in Hollywood knowing that the pup rot season the cameras everybody was there. He knew that. And he went out there any with what opponents now, I'm night. I I don't have a problem with that to each is. Oh, but what I'm trying to say is that we didn't hesitate to say he was out would have poured saw. So what's wrong with me? Calling them porn star. Jimmy. What's wrong with that? I'm not changing that it's going to change it. It's going to be executive orders from the top. Because guess what? It's accurate if you go out with a porn star before you're damned pass for particular season. Anyway, all right. And you're more recognized for that date. Then you off any damn touchdown passes your through in the season because it got hurt game too. Whatever the reason why you relevant is that your point start Jimmy. I don't see the problem that I'm not and by the way, so the two Jimmy Garoppolo and the family of Jimmy Garoppolo in his not an insult you understand to each his own young single men good-looking do can quarterback protege working behind Tom Brady, clearly has some skills. Bill Belichick wanted to keep you you were seven and knowing your I seven starts as a quarterback haven't been able to say healthy got hurt. A New England got her when you got to San Francisco after you got one hundred thirty seven million, by the way, by the way, he went out with the point. So after you've got one hundred million dollar contract four. So it wasn't like she was out with porn star Jimmy before he got paid. But that's neat. The point is it happened. And that's okay. So I just want to say that. Okay. For those out there that a younger and all of that other stuff adult film star. Does that sound better? I like porn star Jimmy though it works anyway back to porzingas. You know, there's a biggest story going on here that everybody needs to pay attention to when it comes to the NBA. What you have is a situation you gotta remember when LeBron James elected to leave Cleveland, the go-to Miami say what you will about him. But he was a free agent. He's spent the first seven years of his career in Cleveland. He wanted a different experience. He went to south beach on his own after he served his time in Cleveland. He went to Miami. He gave them for years. Got them the four straight NBA finals appearances won two championships elected to be to take his services back to Cleveland, but he was already a free agent. Okay. Whether we like it or not he did his tante. He honored his commitment when he was free to go. Elsewhere. That's what he did. That's not what's happening. Now. That's not what happened with Carmelo Anthony when he forced his way out of Denver. That's not. What hap that's what's happening or what happened with Kyrie Irving when he forced his way out of Cleveland. That's not what happened with Anthony Davis now who's trying to force his way out of New Orleans. And so what you have is if you'd think for one second that this is about the Lakers in the Lakers getting an Anthony Davis. For example, you're missing the boat. This is about the NBA with various teams in various small markets collaborating with one another in an effort to try to influence, the New Orleans pelicans to stop them from shipping him to LA because if you capitulate to those demands to a God is a superstar, but is under contract for the next year and a half. You've completely depleted in wiped out the power that a team has to hold you to your contract. That's why went wild Leonard wanted to leave San Antonio. Gregg Popovich and the Spurs sent out of the country Toronto, they say, you go to L if you want to, but it's not gonna be hands is going to be through somebody else's hands. 'cause we're not giving you that power, and they're encouraging warnings to not give Anthony Davis that power, the New York Knicks capitulating and giving away porzingas and a lot of people's eyes. They they caved, and that's what people have a problem with. I think the difference with the New York Knicks that it's to the disadvantage or it would have been to their disadvantage to keep porzingas because if he signed a qualified he basically went into the room, ladies and gentlemen, and said if you keep me I'm gonna sign a qualifying offer that qualifying offer which would have to happen. This summer is a one year deal after you sign a qualifying offer. You are an unrestricted free agent free to go elsewhere to following year without them getting any compensation. Sation whatsoever. They couldn't risk that particularly approaching a free agent. Some of this year where they were trying to get a more keep playing come because you were willing to stand there and say, I don't wanna be here y'all shouldn't wanna come either. 'cause this ain't the place to be. They couldn't have him there, particularly if he was in a position to sign a qualifying offer, which he says he would have done. So that's where you have your problem. They had to get rid of him. New Orleans doesn't have to do that with Anthony Davis New Orleans, sit the stand Pat and say we're gonna wait till the summer because there's a host of other teams that want him and may offer him, sir. May offer us a boatload for his services. Why should we just give into what the Lakers want with ten days notice before the NBA trading deadline expires when we can by ourselves a few months, wait until the summer and see what you got to offer us. That's the difference. So Porzingis Anthony Davis is not the same. But both situations have raised the antennas of league owners to out those small markets in the NBA who says we don't like caving to these big market teams. Something has to be done. So it's not just Anthony Davis against the pelicans is Anthony Davis against every small market team in the NBA who wants to stop him to send a message that you cannot ignore your contractual obligation to us and on top of that. He's a young brother. So you're a young brother wheeled, and that kind of power you got billionaire white owners that don't like that. That's the real story going on in the NBA, and guess what I thought with the billionaire white own and I'm going to explain y'all wads and just a minute. Stick around you. Listen, lots Stephen Smith show, ESPN radio ESPN news. Ryan Clark, Sal paolantonio heavyweight champion and world deonte wild all of them are coming. On the Stephen Smith show right here on ESPN radio. ESPN news that was straight talk wireless nationwide. 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When you look at these NBA players, and the muscle that they're willing to flex I want you all to understand that vast majority of times if not all of them. These young men. Of African American descent who have been starving to be in a position where they could be Mavericks. Not beholden to the stringent rules and the puppet strings and the muscles of corporate America. They want to be able to do what they wanna do when they wanna do it. How they wanna do it whenever they damn. Well, please. Here's the funny part about that that I often laugh about tell me what person regardless of if misty doesn't want that in their life. Tell me that you listen to a man right now that you see in a man or woman. No matter the ethnishity their color of their skin, their cultural, whatever who doesn't want complete on adulterated control over their life. Everybody wants it. It's not a crime. You know, where the crime comes in? When you think you're entitled to it as you have your hand out for somebody else's money. That makes no sense. And those are the kind of things that we don't talk enough about. When you look at a player. Anthony davis. For example, you want to have the freedom to go where you wanna go and do what you wanna do. Now, one time that I hear you say to the New Orleans Hornets. I'm making twenty five million dollars this year. Here's your money back. I never heard that. When poor thing is got hurt and missed the last thirty four games last season and missed all of the games just for the I v games this season. I never once heard him say Yonex. His your money back. See we don't talk enough about that reality. You know, many times as a pundit commentator or report in inside of the ESPN. I got people rolling up on me. You'll Stephen you speak up on this. Even have it doesn't even have to have anything to do with sports. But because I'm an African American sitting in this position having the cash in a position that I have. Which few of us have been blessed and fortunate enough to have everybody thinks that I should have. The license and the willingness to speak on these issues, and guess what they actually right because me sitting in this position knowing that on one of the few. I have to give a voice to the voiceless. And there's an obligation that I feel a sense to my immunity to have which is why we'll touch on those issues, but touching on those issues as one thing. Echoing the sentiments to express and voice and give voice to an issue. That's pertinent and relevant to our community. Yes. I feel an obligation to do that. But you don't get to tell me how to feel and what I'm supposed to believe. And the reason why that's important is because in today's day and age with these athletes, they wanna do what they wanna do. They want. Everybody to disseminate what they wanted to semi. See just as much as I understand Anthony Davis wanting to leave the smoothie king Reno for the staple center wanting to part from New Orleans to go to LA, I understand the pelicans saying give a damn what you want. We have your contractual rights because when they signed into one hundred forty five million dollars. They could've never obligated into that contract if he had not signed on dot long now. So people say, well, Stephen what the hell is opposed to me those who ruled that you've got rookie wage to you got the sun country when nobody told you you have to win the NBA. But Judy care what where you play when you came out of Kentucky because you wanted that paper. It's only after you got the paper that now you wanna sit up the us. You have to right to go to where I wanna go. Lebron James was a free agent. What did I say for years to y'all unintentionally? I'm not blaming him. As if he intentionally did it, but I will state this until the cows come home LeBrun James did more damage to the NBA players than anyone could ever imagine. Here's how because it wasn't that. He left is how he left he said Dan Gilbert at the time. What do you think he's going to? How do you think he's gonna react? He sitting they pay you at the top fifty million a year. He's catering everything you and your crew wants he built a practice facility. Damning, accurate where you hotel from. He gave you everything he wanted. And he found out you were leaving by watching national television like the rest of us. You don't think that's gonna rub in the wrong way? And then after that. What happened years later? He has the shop on HBO, man. You see these NFL owners like plantation owners. What do you think people are going to do? They're paying you. Millions upon millions of dollars to provide them with the thoroughness that will be profitable for them and help them generate revenue. They're giving you millions to do it. And you're accusing them of slavery. I'm asking you for second ignore. Whether it's true or not what boss, do you think you can say that about and they come back to bite you. This. This is one of two things when that happens there's either after of intelligence, which no one could ever accuse LeBron of having because the man is broken. Or at selfishness. 'cause you got yours. So y'all go figure out how to get yours. And I'll end it by saying this. And I say this because Alan Iverson is my brother, and we're very tight we talk twice a week. You know, that's my main. But I remember years ago, I got into this big argument with Alan Iverson because Alan Iverson used to talk about being what you wanna be doing. What you wanna do you wanna do it, etc? Etc. And I said, you know, that's interesting. You say that I respect that. I said when you got drafted in nineteen ninety six what were you wearing? Had on this floss suit. Alan Iverson did not have corn rows. Alan Iverson had a nice cut with a nice fade. There were no tattoo on his neck. Nothing like that. So you play to gain to get to where you need to go. Once you got there here. Come the braids here. Come the tax here comes forth in the NBA to to put an address cold and all of that other stuff. Because you got yours. Now, you talking we should be able to do what we want. No, you can do what you want because you got there. But the vast majority ninety five to ninety nine percent of the population will never ever have that luxury. So why are you teaching people? And I'm not talking about Alan Iverson, the I'm just speaking generically. Why are you teaching people and imploring people to adopt habits that you know, good and damn well will never work for the vast majority of us. Now, I say stuff like that. And people get upset and they call me to sell out. I'm telling you what works and I'm living proof that it works. So who's the sell out? 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Sanders vs. Rice  World Versus Prime Time | 2

Sports Wars

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Sanders vs. Rice World Versus Prime Time | 2

"Yeah it's a Saturday night in the fall of Nineteen eighty-four in Houston Houston Texas Forty niners head coach. Bill Walsh is sitting in his hotel room and he's bored tomorrow. The coach will lead his first place. Team against the the lowly winless oilers. He's not exactly sweating. The Matchup Walsh turned on the TV he yawns flips through a few channels calls. The local Weatherman is saying to expect heavy rain. Storms tomorrow but the forty niners are playing inside the astrodome. So that isn't such a big deal. Walsh tries another channel now. This one's more up his alley. The News showing highlights of a local college football game Mississippi Valley State against Texas. It's a southern and it's raining touchdowns on one play a lean receiver skies for a catch in the endzone gets demolished. Mid Air is spun around like a propeller and somehow holds on Walsh's is get bigger he inches closer to the screen on another play. The same receiver easily beats is man pulls down a pass while streaking down the field and comfortably jogs into the end zone with long beautiful strides. Walsh can't take. His eyes is off the tiny school star. Who really shouldn't be anywhere near his big time? Radar the footage is grainy. But it's jumping off the screen and Walsh who's nicknamed. The genius knows a special talent. When he sees one Walston picks up the phone and calls the forty niners niners director of football operations whose staying down the hall moments later he enters Walsh's room? Walsh still looks shell shot. He says this. I just watched clips of a kid. You need to see the ops Guy Asks Him who is he whilst tells them Cherry Rice by. Now you've likely heard about Disney plus the new streaming service that includes includes Disney Pixar Marvel Star Wars and National Geographic Disney plus is now available in the US and it has one of the most incredible libraries in the entire tire streaming landscape. And it's all ad free from beloved classics like Snow. White and the seven. WARF's to modern blockbusters like Captain Marvel will an avengers endgame to critically acclaimed documentaries like National Geographic's free Solo. The content on Disney plus is truly unparalleled Disney plus also offers beloved series like the Simpsons and host of originals like the Mandal Laurean the first ever Star Wars live action series as well as high school musical. The musical the series of very meditate on the beloved film franchise. It's no wonder Disney plus has become one of the most talked about streaming services twenty nineteen. So don't miss out. Sign up for Disney plus now and start streaming all this great content today from wondering. I'm Dan Rubenstein and this is sports wars in our first episode. We looked at how the upbringing of Jerry Rice and Dion Sanders Sanders helped to shape their football origins. And how they're shared hunger led to dominating everyone else on their fields. Now the two of them can fully focus yes on their respective football gifts for Jerry. It's nonstop training and dedication to the craft of playing wide receiver and for Dion. It's showing off his natural actual ability on the field and growing his own. Spotlight off it. This is episode to world versus Primetime. Back it's April. Thirtieth nineteen eighty five in Jackson Mississippi. Jerry Rice is that his brother. Tom's apartment watching the NFL draft on ESPN. Jerry is it's pretty nervous. He knows teams are questioning his speed after clocking a four seven one forty yard dash at the NFL draft scouting combine an event that puts prospects spects through the paces for an NFL. Receiver hoping to make his mark. That time is borderline crawling. He's heard some experts talk about him as a potential first round pick. He's also heard predictions that he could slide to the second round or worse. That's why he's not having a huge party for friends and family family like other draft picks instead. He's sitting anxiously on a bright yellow couch with his brother and his brother's wife. Jerry thinks about his parents right now. His mum is cleaning someone else's house and his father like usual is out in the heat laying bricks. Jerry knows what this moment could mean for them. What it could mean mean for Tom? whose own dreams of making the NFL fell short? Now it's on Jerry shoulders to make it out of Mississippi and lift his family out of poverty across the country at the forty niners draft headquarters in California Bill. Walsh sits down in the team's draft war room at a long table with the front office brain. Trust Walsh's forty niner squad. The year before led by all pro quarterback Joe Montana went fifteen and won and won the super bowl in a blowout. The one thousand nine hundred forty niners have now come to be known as one of the greatest teams ever assembled but Walsh is always thinking about next year the future. It's now been six months since he saw the blurry highlights of that unguardable small school receiver in that Houston Hotel Room since then. His Scouts have repeatedly told Walsh Walsh wiped. His Gut is wrong about Jerry Rice. How Jerry is too slow for the NFL that he played against? Nobody's every week but whilst trust his ability to evaluate wait prospects. Six years ago he fell in love with a supposedly noodle armed. QB with the eighty second overall. Pick the man with that noodle arm Joe Montana Montana and now for weeks Walsh has been studying jerry on tape watching how easily he gets open. How gracefully he runs with the ball? After the catch in watching Rice's film Walsh's conviction has only grown stronger. Jerry might not be fast on a track but his football speed or speed while changing indirection and running routes is blazing. Walsh is also the mastermind of what's come to be known as the West Coast offense. It's a system based on short short quick passes to multiple pass catching weapons to eventually set up longer. Plays Walsh believes Jerry is a perfect fit. The head coach has actually already. We've been adding to his playbook with Jerry in mind but there's one big problem the niners have the last pick in the first round number twenty eight overall rumors are now swirling that the Dallas cowboys also love. And we'll grab jerry at number seventeen Jerry's brother's house in Mississippi Jerry's heart is is jumping out of his chest as the draft enters. The middle of the first round to wide receivers have already been taken Altoona at number ten by the jets and Eddie Brown down to the Bengals at number thirteen then. Tom Rice's red landline phone rings. It's the forty niners. Walsh has pulled off a trade with the Patriots creates owners of the sixteenth pick. The niners are trading up to bring Jerry Rice to San Francisco San Francisco Forty niners select sixteenth picking the first round wide receiver. Jerry Rice SIPPY VALLEY JERRY LEAPS UP. He yells yells. I got drafted. Jerry is heading to the Super Bowl Champs. It's the day after the draft and Jerry. Sorry is terrified. He's sitting on a plane clutching a one way ticket to San Francisco. Jerry has never been to such a huge city before worse. He's never never been on an airplane. Before as the plane speeds down the runway and liftoff Jerry suddenly feels a wave of nausea as the plane plane levels off and heads West across America though. Jerry's fear of flying and stomach ache is replaced by doubt. He wonders to himself. Am I actually it could enough for the NFL. He can't imagine returning home with his tail between his legs and laying bricks again. He can't imagine letting his family down leading down Crawford Mississippi it's July nineteen eighty five in the foothills of California's Sierra Nevada Mountains Jerry. Rice walks onto to the practice field for his first day of forty niners training camp. The first thing that catches his attention stops him in his tracks. is how perfectly green and manicured the grasses. And then he spots Joe Montana an all pro defensive back Ronnie Lott to forty nine legends. These guys he's seen on. The pages of sports illustrated his helmet and his right hand. Jerry jogs onto the field. His new teammates nod their heads in his direction. They seem welcoming Jerry thinks but as the new guy he also senses that he'll need to gain their respect. He'll do that on the field. He tells himself even if they chuckle at his country Twang or his haircut are cut which is tall and thin and pretty dorky. They actually nicknamed him. Burt as in Sesame Street Bert weeks later during a preseason game in la a against the Rams Jerry feels more sure of himself during camp. He was getting open against veteran defensive backs including lot and he seems to be quickly developing chemistry hemisphere with Montana before one plate Jerry glances over at the head coach. Bill Walsh standing on the sideline. Rice is very serious about justifying. Walsh's faith in him then on a deep post route. Jerry is wide open but drops the pass. He's embarrassed but tries to shake it off onto the next later in the game game though the same thing happens another drop then another it's uncharacteristic. Jerry's always been so sure handed and now as the regular season opens up. The problem doesn't go away in Rice's first eight regular season games. He drops eight passes a ton for the supposing the next big thing fans and reporters rush to call Jerry a bust booing him calling him butter fingers coming from such a small school school. Of course he's GonNa melt under the pressure of the big time now. Jerry is even starting to get sideways glances from Montana during one of those games James Halftime after a first half featuring a drop jerry sobs in the locker room that night Jerry speaks with his girlfriend. Jackie who's in Mississippi. He tells her that he's lonely that he already feels like a failure. Jerry wants so bad to prove people wrong that he's now trying too hard he's still not Foley comfortable with Walsh's offense and now his overthinking is costing him and the team it's nighttime in early December nineteen eighty five at candlestick park in San Francisco. The eight and five are hosting the first place nine and four rams on Monday Sunday night. Football before kick-off ABC analyst Oj. Simpson previews the key players in the matchup rams running back Eric Dickerson. The forty niners Montana China and running back Roger Craig one player. OJ Doesn't even mention Jerry. Rice Montana though isn't about to give up on the rookie. When when Jerry enters the game early and gets open Montana gives him another chance canary right to right now to the twenty eight yard line? I Down Forty niners Jerry on a deep blue Montana with a strong bro. Shortly after Montana throws it in Jerry's direction again in the Jerry Burke down by Jerry's confidence is growing Montana's has confidence in Jerry is growing and Jerry's not done after a few more catches he's stopped thinking he's just reacting siebel catch ball then in the third quarter rice runs a deep route data six yard touchdown there arise the number one draft pick valley state who have difficulties football early. Tackler here tonight. It's a breakout performance. Jerry Hall's ten passes for two hundred forty one yards just in this game alone a franchise record. It's the fall of nineteen eighty six and Tallahassee Florida on a street lined with colorful trees a black convertible with the license plate that that reads Primetime zooms by behind the wheel. College Sophomore Dion Sanders is wearing an expensive suit and thick gold chains. His hat is cocked. Talk to the side and he's talking on an enormous cell phone dion smiles. He has an idea back in his dorm room. He writes in a little black book on the the best thing since peanut butter and Jelly water covers two-thirds of the earth. I cover the rest. You throw my way next thing you'll hear. Is the band playing in the bathroom through mirror. Dion rehearses the lines until they're memorized primetime. The alter ego he recently invented is already a hit and a recent Florida. The State Football Fan Day event dion sat behind a table with the sign. Primetime and a huge crowd gathered. A crowd also gathered next to him by coach coach. Bobby Bowden's table to meet the coach. And till Dion realize they were all there to see prime time to on the field demons kneepads and sweatband have prime-time printed on them. His trash talking is prolific playing at Michigan State that season against all American wide receiver. Andre Horizon Dion yaps. Across the line of scrimmage. I watched you on tape and thought you were great. The film must've lied. In the second half they get into a shoving match then start punching shing each other in the helmet futile as that sounds after the game during which Reisen caught just one pass and a thirty one two three loss to Florida state. Primetime I am tells. The media fees the best in the big ten much when reporters asked about his trash talking dion. Says I'm like Oprah Winfrey out there. I'm talking the whole show but he backs it up in his junior year. Dion is voted a consensus all American and Florida state finishes number two in the country. It's a Sunday afternoon in November of Nineteen eighty-seven at Tampa Stadium in Florida. The seven to forty niners are on the road for a game. Mm against the buccaneers in the middle of Jerry Rice's third NFL season. It's been nearly two years since Jerry's coming out party against the rams on Monday night football since then. The man wearing number eighty has been nothing short of incredible. Despite the early drops Jerry finished his rookie season with nearly a thousand yards receiving even the next season in nineteen eighty six. He became unguardable man to man. He was voted first team all pro and had an NFL best. One thousand five hundred in seventy yards receiving and fifteen fifteen touchdown catches and this season. He's been catching balls in the end zone at a historic rate through through six games. He's already pulled them eight touchdowns on this Sunday back in Crawford Mississippi. Jerry's parents decide to leave church early in the new house. Jerry Jerry who built for them they gather around the TV to watch their transcendent bricklayer-turned NFL star Sun. And Jerry doesn't disappoint he catches. which is three touchdown passes against the bucks as the niners comfortably win? Twenty four to ten. It's now a Saturday night. In December about a month later in the forty nine or film room coaches are showing highlights of the team's Monday night game against the bears. The niners took it forty one nothing in a match up of ten and two teams and the mood. What is upbeat Jerry? Another three touchdowns that's now eighteen on the season tying in NFL record. After one of those touchdowns. Jerry decided sided to do the cabbage patch dance. It's become a bit of a trend for players around the league to create signature end zone celebrations after scoring touchdowns Jerry wanting running to fit in came up with one of his own but now as he watches himself dance and make a fool out of himself on film. Jerry is horrified. He's he's embarrassed served. His teammates around him are laughing. And it's all in good fun but this isn't me Jerry thinks I'm better than this more professional. Shnell he vows that and they're all never show boat like this again. It's not my thing it's September Seventeenth Nineteen eighty-eight Gate Clemson South Carolina. It's a gray Saturday afternoon inside memorial stadium also known as Death Valley most of the eighty five thousand five hundred. Seventy six fans are cheering on their CLEMSON. Tigers ranked third in the nation as the visiting seminoles. Take the field. The clemson fans rain down booze and they're directed directed at one player in particular wearing a Florida state uniform. That player is prime time Dion Sanders into the game as the Tigers lineup for upon dion stays on the field and jogs back to his own thirty yard line. Ready to receive. Dion raises both hands to the crowd and shouts to the clemson sideline. And this was going all the way back. Clemson Punter Chris Gar Dokki unleashes the punt now from Dion vantage point. He sees a canyon of Orange Orange shirts. Stretching up to the heavens an ordinary player would have butterflies right about now but not primetime he lives for this what he actually hates or games against lesser opponents week or mediocre receivers. Those Games bore him and he doesn't always play his best. He needs a big stage to really get his juices flowing and this one definitely qualifies. Now it'll be Dion Sanders twenty four. Aw in the middle whis is way. No it's just the it's going to be a touchdown Dion Sanders in reply seven as teammates mob dion in the end zone. He shouts to the clemson crowd. How you like me now? The seminoles win twenty four. Twenty one dion touchdown return is a difference maker. It's four days later back. In Tallahassee Dion drives from his Condo to practice the seminoles are preparing for Saturday's game against Michigan State. The spartans best player is senior wide. Receiver Andre Reisen a likely first-round pick pick like dion as you may remember last year in East Lansing Dion and Andre got into a war of words and fists. Reporters asked for Dion. Sounds reaction to rise in calling him overrated. Dion tells them that he doesn't like people saying that he's not an all American when he's made every all America team including including Betty Crocker's a reporter asks what Dion thinks of rises other comments that last season he beat the on five or six times one on one but just never got the ball L. and that Florida state double teamed Reisen Dion Response with. He said he beat me five or six times. How come you only one pass for eleven yards? We don't double cover anybody if I needed to cover jerry rice one on one whether your reaction is. We'll do excellent or I caramba. This is definitely some exciting news. The Simpsons are now a part of Disney's brand new streaming Dreaming Service Disney plus. 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It's the night before Florida State's sugar bowl. Matchup Against Auburn and Dion is lounging in his hotel room. He leads the nation in and punt return yardage and is on his way to winning the Jim Thorpe award given to the nation's best defensive back since Dion told the world that he could take Jerry Rice one on one his antics his self promotion have only gotten crazier after getting pulled over recently for speeding and his convertible dion told. The COP. Don't story I WANNA have Perry Mason come to court with me and fight the ticket in their final regular season game against rival Florida which the seminoles easily took fifty two to seventeen gene. Dion arrived at the stadium in a stretch limo. He emerged wearing a Tuxedo and a flamenco dancers hat. He's also been talking more and more about out his NFL money referring to himself more frequently in the third person he insists that reporters call him prime time in their articles. Not Diop now. Some of his favorite sayings include. It doesn't matter if you win or lose it's how you pay the game and I've got the lottery ticket. Just wait MMA cash it in and Florida state's been good to me but I'm ready to get paid for playing. I'm looking forward to going out in style. It's the next night January. Second at the superdome in New Orleans twelve seconds remain in the sugarbowl Florida state. Leads thirteen seven over seventh-ranked Auburn. Who has the ball at the seminal twenty two third and Tan Dan who had twenty two the timing sanders all the way over by the Auburn? It when better for Dion Sanders to put an exclamation point on a big win than in. TV's prime time. It's early Sunday morning. January twenty first nineteen eighty-nine Four. AM early the Hilton in Miami Jerry. Rice is is wide awake pacing in his hotel room in just a few hours at Joe Robbie Stadium The niners will meet the Bengals in Super Bowl twenty three Jerry's first time on the biggest get stage in American sports up until this point in his career. Jerry's largely had individual success in one thousand nine hundred seven a strike shortened season season. He finished the year with an all time. NFL record twenty two touchdown catches in just the twelve games during which he played his first three. The seasons in the League are now widely considered to be the best of any young. NFL receivers. I three ever but his team had failed to win a super pro bowl so jerry rice four years ago joined the defending Super Bowl Champs but is still yet to get a ring of his own this season so the nineteen eighty eight season. The niners started just six and five but caught fire the rest of the way so now back in his Pre Dawn Hotel Room Jerry is visualizing leising himself on the Super Bowl field running around getting open catching the ball racing into the end zone in just over twelve hours. It will be the biggest moment of Cherry Jerry Rice's career later that afternoon four hundred miles northwest in Tallahassee Dion Sanders sits in front of his TV watching Super Super Bowl. Twenty-three no hint of doubt enters Diaz. Mind he's positive. He'll be there one day playing in the Super Bowl and standing on the champions platform hoisting being the trophy. It's not a question of if just when the niners trail Cincinnati Thirteen six entering the fourth then Joe Montana and Jerry rice takeover jerry catches perfectly thrown ball over his left shoulder. For a fourteen yard. Touchdown pass on the final drive with the niners now. Down by three dion sitting at home sees Jerry. Make a pair of incredible grabs to keep the game alive for San Francisco. The forty niners win it soon after her and Jerry with a super bowl record two hundred and fifteen yards receiving is named. MVP Dion knows that prime time performs best best when the lights are brightest. He knows there's no better wide receiver in the world. Jerry Rice facing Jerry would be the ultimate challenge the Mount Everest of receivers achievers. It's the Super Bowl postgame during the award ceremony. Jerry's parents and siblings who drove to Miami from Mississippi to see their Jerry under the big lights it's appear with him asked about his performance in front of the world. Rice says I did okay. His Father Joe is asked Jerry will ever return to bricklaying Joe Calmly. Says he's doing what God intended him to do. It's April twenty third nineteen eighty-nine inside New York's Marriott Marquis Hotel in Times Square. Dion is dressed in a white and black sweatsuit. He's wearing gold rim sunglasses with a huge ring on each hand. One says prime the other time. Oh an heavy gold chains including dollar sign necklace. He flashes a million dollar grim. Dion expects to be a top pick especially after running blistering four to seven in the forty yard dash at the combine two months earlier it was nearly half a second faster than Jerry. Rice's time five years ago. He's has made it clear that he wants to play in Atlanta telling his agent. I don't want other teams drafting especially Detroit if they draft number three well. We'll have to demand an insane. The amount of money Dion Listens Dallas chooses. UCLA quarterback Troy Aikman first overall. Tony Mandarich goes second to the packers. Then Detroit's up nervous dread falls over Dion. His Smile Fades Lucky for dion the lions draft another Sanders Star Oklahoma state running back Barry Sanders Sanders. Kansas City then selects Alabama Star Derrick. Thomas with number four dion is again relieved. Now the Falcons are up the commissioner walks to the podium first round choice Dion Sanders quarterback order sake. Dion big smile returns a reporter asks beyond how much money honey he expects. The Falcons will pay him. Dion answer's going to be a lot of zeroes in that contract. It's September tenth. Nineteen eighty-nine Sunday afternoon at Fulton Fulton County Stadium in Atlanta Dion. Sanders is suited. Up and wearing a White Falcons Jersey. It's his first NFL game. It's been five months since the draft and after after lengthy negotiations. The Falcons agreed to pay Dion. Four point four million dollars over five years the most ever for a defensive back part of leverage is the fact that a little over a year ago the New York Yankees drafted him to play baseball after he showed huge potential playing the sport at Florida State. Now he's he's been playing for a Yankee Minor League team all season long even getting called up to the bigs during the summer the two sides though eventually come to an agreement and dion ditches pinstripes for shoulder pads and after getting his first paycheck Deanne lives up to his childhood promise. He buys his mother a house. In North Fort Myers on the a wealthy side of the bridge a mansion with palm trees out front when Dion tells her about the house she sobs and quits her job. It's now the first quarter her debut in the NFL. His Falcons force upon dion goes back for the return fittingly on a converted baseball infield portion of the field. And there's a buzz in stadium. One tiny seem he thinks this is going to the house. They on drift to the lamb takes on thirty. Pick it up one man never man listening going twenty five bucks in its dealings first official touch in the NFL. A sixty eight yard touchdown return breaking tackles weaving in and out of the coverage team and outrunning everybody to the end zone. It's early in the afternoon on Sunday. November Twelfth Nineteen eighty-nine at a jam-packed jam-packed candlestick park in San Francisco in just a few minutes. The forty niners will kick off the week. Ten game today feels a little different to jerry rice. There's an energy in the crowd that's unusual for a game against an opponent whose record is just three and six. The reason for the Energy Falcons. Rookie cornerback cornerback. deion Sanders Dionne wearing his white number. Twenty one uniform and chomping on gum stretches on the stadium grass the fans media the The CBS cameras. They're watching prime-time every move. In the days leading up to the game the media has been hyping this first ever showdown between Rice and Sanders Anders. This will be fun. Read a major newspaper headline of the upcoming Jerry Dion matchup the San Francisco Chronicle wrote that the forty niners special missile teams coach quote probably never had so many nightmares and quote preparing for Dion. Everybody knows that every time dion touches the ball his potential touchdown other newspapers have even reported how. NFL Punters are so worried about dion that they're kicking mechanics are getting screwed up. Prime time is is in everyone's head. Deans also on the current cover of sports illustrated the articles headline they. Don't pay me to be humble. Is a dion quote. Another line from the story is about Dion. Black Mercedes with plates reading just got paid right now. Diaz helmet is off and he. He feels a strong wind from the bay whipping against his face. He smells the salt. Water in the Air Diaz expression doesn't show his typical swagger. His is actually reveal a little bit of concern. The broadcasters are discussing the challenge that Dion faces here today but you know that Joe Montana's going to be looking into to the direction of young Prime Time Dion Sanders success that could mean primetime going into cancellation. It's the forty niners opening drive on the niners. Thirty seven Atlanta's playing zone so players are guarding areas. Not other players Dion at cornerback on the right side Jerry's lined up on the left. The other Atlanta corner owner on the left side is giving Jerry plenty of room. A lot of cushion so Montana throws a quick hitch past Jerry. Jerry quickly dashes around that corner. Who Falls Down Jerry? Splits to more defenders who also fall down then. Jerry loses his own footing after a sizable gain dion. Seeing this all unfold old things while he's much faster than on TV. It's a few plays later from the Atlanta Thirty Nine Montana completes another short pass to Jerry. Aw Jerry breaks to the center of the field makes a defender Miss and fall. He breaks a second tackle and is off to the races. Cutting diagonally across the field right at dion sanders the lone defender between Rice and the end zone but dion has no time to think he just has to stop Jerry from Sporran Jerry without slowing up cut sharply to the outside Dion. Surprised at the redirection gets spun around his back is now turned to jerry. Jones only shot now he realizes is to be Jerry to the corner goal line. So Dion sprints in that direction but a forty niner blocker is now clogging path around around the six yard. Line Dion jukes around the blocker and to the right. Jerry is at the ten and coming at full speed dion. Though has the position and the advantage it appears but jerry accelerates and in a blink the two are even at the five yard line. Dion knows he must at least try to push jerry out of bounds. But Gerry's too quick at the one dion desperately swats his left hand across Jerry's Helmet Yanks Jerry's face masks snapping Jerry's head back to Jerry. It's it's just a minor inconvenience. The best receiver in the game remains on his feet for the touchdown. Oddly there's no penalty. The Ref Rice is if swatted away at a fly is completely unbothered. The thirty eight yard touchdown play is the sixty fifth of Jerry's career as the crowd goes wild. Jerry raises both hands high. Suddenly the crowd boos replays. They're showing illegal and violent. Grab on Jerry's as face masks but Jerry is too busy high fiving teammates to notice the replay a touchdown touchdown the forty niners are now ahead. Twenty eight to three at halftime in in the locker room. Dion is frustrated. He doesn't like this zone nonsense he thinks. Just let me play Jerry man to man. Then it's obvious for everyone to see who the better player is if he beats me then so be it in just ten minutes. Dion will get his chance early in the second. Half Montana leads the niners. Down the field. At the Falcons eleven yard line. Jerry goes into motion to his left. Dion is positioned near the middle of the field when the ball is snapped. Jerry heads up field and Deonte. John's one on one with Jerry Rice breaks right to the end zone on a fade. Patter time show this rookie. How it's done the? He was working on prime time. Close the show von Lesson. What a great receiver does is to you Joe? Montana just lost his feathers. And you see that all we gotta catch that Jerry Rice Dion Sanders. Nice cover as Montana. PATS Jerry on the helmet rice unceremoniously drops the ball and high fives. His teammates TV cameras. Show a stunned and silent dion as the man who calls himself self. Primetime does a walk of shame. Back to his sideline a teammate consoles. Him pats him on the back embarrassed but also befuddled keep played played jerry perfectly and it's still wasn't good enough. It's shortly after the visitors quiet and deflated locker room. The niners just destroyed. Lead the Falcons forty five to three on defense. Not only did Jerry get the better of Dion but on special teams dion did nothing well special and sanders returned three kickoffs for just forty nine total yards reporters. Then ask Dion about the facemask. Grab on Rice. Their tone indicates how the play will be written up in the newspapers. Tomorrow as a cheap shot and attempted beheading a close lining. A report asks. Dion what do you think about being booed they dion says. I don't care those fans have to get up at six tomorrow morning and go to work I get tomorrow off. Maybe I'll go to the Bank and count on my money. Who House one thing? Dion can count on tomorrow morning our headlines like forty niners poll plug on Atlanta's neon Dion. That article will say that the Dion Sanders versus Jerry Rice matchup which quote everyone had been looking forward to turned out to be a quick yet decisive rice. Knockout victory victory in the next episode Dion Sanders and the Falcons improve and Jerry Rice versus primetime rivalry intensifies and when the aging forty niners get overtaken by a young brash team from Texas right as dion becomes a free agent a once improbable union suddenly becomes possible. I hope you enjoyed this episode of Sports Wars. If you did did you can subscribe on Apple. PODCAST spotify Google PODCASTS WONDERING DOT COM. 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"It's Saturday. September third nineteen ninety four or at the marina green a grassy stretch of beach along the San Francisco Bay Forty niners owner Eddy debartolo and President Carmen policy are sitting on stage promoting an exhibit called the NFL experience to get fans pumped up for the season that starts in just two days. Niners fans don't really need a ton of gimmicks to get excited. They already root for a good team but everyone involved knows that the niners probably need a little extra extra juice to make it back to the super bowl suddenly policy notices a buzzing in the crowd near the back. There's a man who's waving eh at him policy. squint to get a better look. The man looks oddly familiar designer sunglasses gold jewellery glimmering bring in the sunshine. No way policy thinks it's undeniable. It's Dion Sanders policy. Then nudges debartolo and whispers hate head. That's Dion Sanders. The owner response. No CAN'T BE EH policy continues. I'm telling you it's M it's Dionne. It's now almost been nine nine months since the niners lost to the cowboys for the second straight year in the NFC championship game in the last couple months dean's agent floated the idea to policy that the the forty niners may want to pursue dion in free agency policy thought the agent was joking Diaz been insisting on a big money long term deal L. during his nationwide free agency tour with MC Hammer by his side. The niners under a salary cap crunch can't offer big money or long-term term deals so the forty niners front office ruled dion out. So what's Dion doing here in San Francisco Debartolo a middle aged guy with thick dark hair. hops off stage. And Wades through the crowd towards dion the to shake hands and slowly walk toward the water's edge looking Out on a spectacular view of Alcatraz and the Golden Gate Bridge. Dion tells debartolo. I really really want to play for the forty niners. Aw Nine days later at the niners practice facility in Santa Clara Jerry. Rice is sitting in his head. Coach's office Coach George Siefert is the Messenger for a wild idea he says so what would you think about Dion Sanders as a 49er their silence is jerry slowly processes. A bit of a shocker. His eyes then widen. He might come here. Jerry thanks. Oh my God Jerry Imagines Dion and a forty Niner Jersey. The thought is beyond weird in pictures. His high stepping dancing acting foolish in the end zone. His first instinct is no no no. He doesn't fit the forty forty nine or way the old school rice can't imagine dion fitting in he thinks Dionne just brings too much flash and attention baggage edge. He's GonNa blow up the forty nine or focus in chemistry as team captain and face of the franchise. Jerry has veto power over the move if he really is against it. Like an ancient Roman emperor the star white out could squash this primetime to San Francisco proposal with just a thumbs down or the shakeup shakeup ahead but if Jerry's looking at this rationally the he can't deny the benefits dion could bring. He thinks well on the other. Hand a shutdown shutdown corner who can also energize the home crowd. These are good. Thinks they can help us win and we do need to win the Super Bowl. Our window won't lasts forever but then again all that baggage Diaz clearly more about entertainment than football so jerry rice ace is torn suddenly. He's also having some pretty serious visions memories of the cowboys. Humiliating his forty niners in the playoffs. These pass to winters. He sees cowboy wide receivers. Michael Irvin Alvin Harper. And they're stupid. Starred helmets catching pass after. Pass beating the forty niners Niners cornerbacks now ray system celebrating with their smug owner Jerry Jones laughing in the forty niners faces in Jerry Rice his face and now Jerry's mind is made up all right. He says go for it. But there's a problem lem the forty niners still don't have enough salary cap space. The League puts limits on how much a team can spend on total player salaries each year so three forty nine or players actually agreed to rework their contracts to accommodate dion the front office then constructs a one year dion offer that includes a bonus bonus if the niners make it to the Super Bowl the organization and the players are serious about signing dion and know that winning is prime time primary goal. The only questions now are will he take the deal and more importantly how will he jerry. Rice survive as teammates. Whether you're reaction is excellent or I caramba. This is definitely some exciting news. 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They're all the iconic moments now available Disney plus in the United States. So get excited because you can stream the first thirty seasons of the simpsons and so much more right now when you subscribe on Disney plus I'm Dan Rubenstein. And this is sports. Wars The in the last episode Jerry Rice and Dion Sanders battled fiercely playing for NFC west rivals yet. Despite their enormous individual successes their teams each had some pretty big flaws for Jerry is aging forty niners. Their winning run from the eighties is long in the rear view mirror ear and are now firmly behind the Dallas cowboys in the NFC pecking order and in Atlanta. Dion Falcons have posted just one winning record in five seasons as both players Covet Super Bowl glory for their own reasons for Dionne. It's to win. His first title and further elevate his profile and for Jerry to prove that he belongs on football's mountaintop. They're now partners with a shared mission. So will they be able to coexist and win a ring or will will they clash of egos in this unlikely marriage end in disaster. This is episode four teammates It's September fifteenth at the forty niners. Santa Clara practice facility as dion walks onto the field. All eyes are staring at number. Twenty one forty nine or linebacker. Gary plummer thirty. Four year old veteran and self-described blue-collar throwback throws a skeptical glance direction. plummer thinks dion selfish thinks is sh mannequins will hurt the team. He's not alone but Jerry Rice. Who still worries about that? Exact problem greets dion as the team's leader he says hey. Welcome to the forty niners ray to do some work. Happy to be there dion response. You know it. Let's wintering three three days later. The niners suit up Anaheim stadium in southern California for a week three matchup against the Rams News of Diaz Forty nine or signing sent shockwaves shock waves throughout the league. The niners were never thought to be serious players in the primetime sweepstakes but now on paper there suddenly considered Super Bowl favorites favorites and now on the field. They're starting to look like it as well. It's the fourth quarter and the niners lead twenty seven to ten. After a Jerry Rice touchdown catch etched from Steve Young and playing cornerback on the right side of the field. The always loud dion has deflected two passes and help to quiet the rams top receivers verse on another niners. Dr Rice catches a young pass but gets tackled. The Rams won the receiver who never accepts coming up. Short is furious areas with himself for getting stopped. He heads back to the bench and stands next to dion. Rice is yelling at himself. Can't believe I got stopped there. Deanne response to I am trying to loosen him up. Listen if it had been me on you on that play you definitely would have scored run right over Jerry smiles. He feels better. Her Dion has lightened the mood. The forty niners wind eons debut thirty four to nineteen the following week. Primetime makes his home. Debut at. San Francisco's candlestick park fans can't wait to see neon dion up. Close the niners. Take a seventeen thirteen lead over New Orleans in the third quarter on a rice touchdown catch but in the game's final minute the saints drive into forty forty niner territory. Dion knows chance to show fans and a few remaining skeptical teammates. Exactly why he's worth all the hype as the saints try to Spoil Foil. His debut dion jumps in front of a pass and takes it seventy four yards the other way for a touchdown if there was any lingering doubt about Deonte John's ability. It's fully gone now a few hours later Prime Times game sealing highlight is featured on. ESPN's big recap show NFL. Primetime forty which episode to go and look at it. You know what's coming Chad Bryan. China's new kidney couldn't write a script like this. I five minutes ago. Came on the line dion. His first appearance at candlestick George Siefert said they. Don't write this in Hollywood a few few weeks later the forty niners are at Georgia. Dome Atlanta Dion back as a visitor over seventy one thousand strong as the forty. niners take on the Falcons begins with first place on the line in the NFC west both coming in with records up foreign to Jerry. Rice is a big play player as his Dion Sanders who returned to Atlanta for the first time since signing with the forty niners falcons fans are wearing t shirts that say dion who with the number twenty one crossed crossed out. Wendy owns announced the fans boo angrily. They've taken his departure for greener pastures. Pretty personally the niners lead fourteen. Nothing the second quarter. Its fourth and goal from the Falcon one. They could kick a field goal safe choice here but something feels different San Francisco. They're calling young is gonNA try to throw when he does. What a great play? He got the ball just as he was going down. Jerry Jerry walks back to the sideline as teammates tap is helmet. Dion and Jerry Bear. Hug and Dion smacks Jerry on the but with eleven fifty nine left in the second. Half the Falcons have the ball at the forty nine twenty. Five dion is covering his friend. Falcon Receiver Andre Rising. Well make that former friend reisen feels feels betrayed that dion left for a division rival on a running play reisen blocks dion a little too aggressively. Dion doesn't appreciate it and goes after rising awesome and soon penalty flags litter the field as the to trade punches. We got we got some Dukic going on Grey Rise Dion Sanders given that whole cook. Did you see that. That's a classic. Paul Number Twenty one on the big ten yards all actually be honest lucky then. He's on the phone cookbook. Because usually when that happens you get catch a Guy Duke watching this insanity from the sideline rice shakes his head in frustration. He thinks this is exactly why I was worried about bringing beyond on. He's always calling attention to himself. It's not not about. The team is a wildcard. And he need dependability. Now at least partially because of Deanza antics the Falcons are going to score and get right back into the game the momentum swings to Atlanta and they're inside the niners twenty the tenth drive here own Dion Sanders. It's dancing about the forty yard number on the crowd here. San Francisco Forty niners team is happy. Gone with the whole team together. That should have been a completion. Stand ninety five yards away from the niners win forty two to three three speaking to reporters at his locker after the game. Dion says one thing to say this is my house and I dissed and this is my house. I don't care. Bow Out always people. It's the day after Christmas in Minneapolis. The the niners are here preparing for a Monday night. Game against the Vikings to close out the nineteen ninety four regular season. Dion Jerry in the niners are on a ten game winning streak week. They've clinched homefield advantage throughout the NFC playoffs so technically this game is meaningless. But try telling Jerry Rice that AH knows how fragile a season is how the second you lose focus. That's when things collapse. He remembers how the niners went fourteen in two in both nineteen ninety. The and one thousand nine hundred ninety two and still didn't even make the Super Bowl as Jerry looks around the Metrodome Locker Room. He sees distractions left and right and and it's all stuff he could have predicted. He's kicking himself as he sees dion on his cell phone. Who even use as one of those dumb things? Another distraction dion rap album primetime was released today by MC Hammer's labeled bust it records the lead single is titled Must Be the money with other tracks including Primetime I'm keeps on ticking. Say Hi to the bad Guy House of prime and time for prime reprise during their workout. Yesterday dion was teaching some teammates a new end endzone dance Jerry. Thinks this is just not someone who's taking the actual game seriously enough and now right over there. Jerry sees to linemen shirtless. Yes in play wrestling players nearby. Them are laughing and egging them on. Jerry has officially had enough. He shouts guys. Hey guys we're trying to get her before a game. The Locker Room Falls silent. The niners lose to the Vikings Twenty one fourteen. Just Jerry feared. Dion came with a price. He better be worth it in the playoffs. Especially against those damn cowboys. The forty niners have the. NFL's best record at thirteen and three. Jerry's hundred twelve twelve receptions in nearly fifteen hundred yards receiving both lead the. NFL Indians had the best season of his career. His three hundred and three interception return in yards and three picks returned for touchdowns are tops in the league. In fact he'll be named defensive player of the year. It's a couple of weeks later. January Fifteenth Nineteen ninety-five at Candlestick Park. The forty niners are taking on the cowboys in the NFC championship game. Dallas the League's newest dynasty is is extremely confident as it looks to lock up its third straight super bowl appearance cowboys. Receiver Alvin Harper. WHO Like Jerry wears number eighty is talking talking trash before kick-off number eight fake number eighty over probably come away kick addresses his teammates with the veins in his neck pulsating he pleads with them if you have any pride at all we cannot we they will not lose? His speech is followed with some primal yells. All around the forty niners when introduced by the announcer dion in his red Bandanna China does his Primetime Dance Jerry. Meanwhile jobs out seriously with his helmet on it's late in the first half the niners lead twenty four to fourteen. Ven Young goes back to throw touchdown just went right by dion. Meanwhile Shuts Down Harper. Who has just one reception all day and Dion even suffocates Michael Irvin? When he's assigned to the other cowboys star plays the forty niners force five cowboy turnovers and clinch the NFC championship? Thirty eight twenty eight. They're finally going back to the Super Bowl. If Jerry can play like this just one more time. It's pretty clear that have what it takes to beat the San Diego chargers and together together when a ring but first they'll have to survive a week plus cooped up in the same hotel and they'll have to get along so so yeah a big if. Hey here's some things that better undeniably tough to do waking up at five. Am to go for a five mile. Run those pushups. Were you clap in the middle of or establishing yourself as the Liz O of Sports podcasting podcasting. It's pretty much impossible. She's an icon also talking about e D. Yeah that last one so E. D. is really really hard to talk about but with our sponsor Roman. 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If he were to switch over to sports radio he probably hear about how he's the major story of the Super Bowl the media is obsessing over his mansions and his rap album. They're talking about his jewelry and custom-made close. They're going on and on about the car. He's currently partly tooling around in. which dion called quote a gift from myself to myself because only I know what I want? They're talking about how he took. His teammates made the self professed old school. Gary plummer out on the town. The Hey Gary plummer who thought he'd hate the on before the season one newspaper even even has a dion watch which reports on every single time primetime spot at around town. Dion leaves the Lamborghini unattended at the entrance into the Blue Lagoon Hilton. He shows up wearing a visor turned upside down and backwards. Big Sunglasses gold chains and a white striped warm up suit inside aside the ballroom. Dion in stream of consciousness tells reporters that after he retires. He wants a private lake with efficient named Bubba he also says he wants to host host. TV show called fishing with the prime time cell phone then rings. Dion announces to the gathered media. MOMS Colin gotta go and and just like that. The interview is over at practice the next day. Dion who's wearing a black BANDANNA and red shorts feels the team is to tents then everyone needs to loosen up so he rolls a football to a teammate. Who runs in scoops it up and throws it like a baseball outfielder pretend catcher makes the tag and a fake umpire yells? You're out the players nearby double over laughing and high five each other. Meanwhile Jerry Wearing Jersey and his team issue football pants is standing with head coach. George Siefert and his staff. Rice is all business. The forty niners are favored by double digits. Hits over the chargers but Jerry knows that this is no time for complacency. He knows it's especially easy to lose. Focus during super bowl week with all the HOOPLA and hype hype Dion Glances over at Jerry who he notices has a very serious look about him after five months playing with the star receiver. Dion still doesn't feel like he knows Jerry. He's mysterious loner. Often Diaz spot jerry by himself in the cafeteria or in the locker room shadows ddos. He's the best player ever dion thinks but he doesn't seem to have the relationships the friends that make the game fulfilling. He's not enjoying the ride. It's Thursday morning at the hotel during a team. Meeting SEAFORD stands in in front of his players. He's mad he says. Hey it's come to my attention that a bunch of you guys missed your eleven pm curfew last night. This is unacceptable bowl and I'm gonNA find out exactly who it was ashamed. Expressions overtake player faces. Huge heads drop Jerry then rises. He Says No. We'll handle this ourselves. Siefert nods the coaches leave. Rice is live it even more so than Siefert. Here we go. Oh thinks dion prime time of course was one of the twenty five guys who broke curfew. Jerry shouts to all of you who missed curfew last. Snipe were not in Miami to hang out or to have a good time. We're here to win the Super Bowl party anytime all during the year but not uh now hell I'll even party with you when it's all over but right now we're preparing for the biggest game of our careers and know that nobody remembers the loser user of a super bowl. If you WANNA be champions. It's time you all behave like champions. When he's done dion stands up calmly? He says to Jerry area in the group. Look you know damn well. We're going to beat them. Breaks off San Diego. I understand that this was Saturday. Well this Wednesday so everybody just calm down. Don't get some bananas shape. WE'RE GONNA win my thirty anyway. What's the difference? We got this all right in unison. About a hundred it is whip over to Jerry. Rice can't believe what he's hearing. Calm down here at the Super Bowl Lou. Joe Montana Ronnie Lotte Roger Craig Thinking Right now. Jerry stands back up and approaches dion. There's more arguing watching the two superstars shouting and moving towards each other star Star. Forty nine a running back. Ricky watters is growing increasingly alarmed. He thinks are they gonNA throw down Luckily Dion. Jerry are separated. Aided Dion sits down and the meeting ends. It seems that cooler heads have prevailed but it's apparently not over later by the hotel pool. ooh Jerry and dion resume their argument once again they have to be separated with the Super Bowl just three days away. Jerry Indians five five year long conflict on the field has erupted off of it in plain view and into a full-blown civil war Sunday afternoon. January twenty nine at Joe Robbie Stadium as the forty niners. Take the field for Super Bowl. Twenty nine Jerry is satisfied satisfied again. Everyone made curfew last night including the on the incident from earlier in the week seems to have refocused everyone just in time Jerry. Jerry did what he needed to do less than two minutes into the game. Steve Young is looking to throw frank. gehry right Fifth Super Bowl touchdowns pudding defensively safety men and they were like they were paralyzed. They're almost like I'm looking for an autograph who went by the niners. Pour it on. Just as dion had guaranteed by the third quarter. San Francisco is ahead. Thirty thirty five to ten. Don't grow but a pair. Jerry landed awkwardly dog in fact rice. dislocates hates his shoulder on the play later when Jerry has to rebuttal his chin strap it's too painful to lift his arms. Jerry then hears a voice. Hey need some help. Nope it's dion. He tenderly hold Jerry's helmet with his black glove and is the strap. Thanks Prime Jerry says late in the fourth quarter. After yet another rice touchdown catch makes it forty nine to eighteen San Francisco. He's Dion who gets into the act that over the fans Saturday as the clock ticks down rice smiles and waves at his now. Wife Jackie in the stands and of his tenth seasonally. And he's he he's never been better and he's such a professional. That's the beauty of Jerry. Rice nobody team worked hard very right there. That's that's the standard for all. The celebration is on Jerry. Rice is Super Bowl. MVP once again under the bright camera. Lights Steve Young then asks it's February first. Three days later back in Santa Clara young pulls into the niners practice does facility to be expected. The place is empty quiet except for the sound of a single set of cleats meeting the turf. Young looks out to the field old jerry. Rice is not at Disneyland. He's by himself. Running Crisp routes also to be expected. It's the summer of Nineteen nineteen ninety five and a Bay Area Photo Studio Dion. Sanders is posing a Miami Dolphins uniform. After several camera clicks he changes into a Dallas cowboys. All Boys Uniform next he puts jerseys for the eagles. Forty niners broncos. It's for the cover art of his upcoming Sega. video-game dion still hasn't isn't decided where he's going to play next year he's waiting until baseball season's over to make a decision prime time is only considering super bowl contenders and the media media speculation never ends. The talking heads are saying that whoever dion chooses will be the super bowl favorites earlier in the year. All the speculation was even a subject of demons monologue when he hosted Saturday night. Live as your know a month ago. The San Francisco go boarding. Addis won the Super Bowl now my country. Because I'm I'm a free agent about a week ago. Lorne michaels calm. You made me offer. He said I got a good eighteen. Here it is but it could be a great team. I need you in reality. Dion leaning toward the forty niners. Who Want Him Back Diaz? Mom wants him to play closer to home. So Miami would be great though. She expects him to stay in San Francisco with the dominant Super Bowl Champs Carmen policy the niners president puts their odds better than fifty percent at resigning him across the country legendary dolphins head coach Don Shula. He's also interested in Dion on in Texas cowboys owner. Jerry Jones wants dion desperately but Dallas. Just doesn't have the money available under the salary cap. The Denver Broncos then make a strong offer raiders owner. Al Davis enters sweepstakes offering dion a huge deal. Dion tells the niners that he really wants to come back. But it'll take at least three million a year. There's no hometown discount for the niners. This is a problem. Rice is oh two point six million dollars this season the highest of any non quarterback in football. There's just no way the niners can offer more than they are without offending rice. Meanwhile San Francisco's legendary. January whiteout has been following all along with this dion free agency fiasco hearing the numbers being thrown around for this over the top. CORNERBACK pisses them off. He thinks here's a guy who's GonNa skip training camp to play baseball. Who might not even show up until the seasons half over and he's demanding more money than I had to a big for this isn't right? niners management also understands this so the niners decide that their best hope is for dion to accept less money to come back here to win another ring the forty niners know that they have other advantages to dion lives in nearby Fremont where MC hammer are is his neighbor and Sega. The Video Game Company for which Dion is a spokesperson is based in the area as well even more significant Diaz Baseball team the Cincinnati reds heads just traded him to the San Francisco giants. That's a huge boost to the niners. Chances of keeping D on the fold all those talking heads are now predicting addicting that the forty niners will re signed the on and win another super bowl. It's Saturday September ninth at the Cowboys Valley Ranch Practice Facility Outside Dallas at a press conference alongside owner Jerry. Jones Dionne appears wearing a navy stripe business suit diamond earrings and cowboy's hat just just after midnight last night dion signed seven year. Thirty five million dollar contract making him the league's highest paid defensive player. Ever it took six cowboys including friend. Wide Receiver Michael Irvin agreeing to renegotiate their contracts to accommodate dion and the team salary cap. The deal includes promises that dion gets to play some offense for Dallas. I'm looking forward to the I asked him put on his football field or the put on edge style which one mile when you wanted to Ordina negative history everyday on my helmet you know as a kid. Dion promised his mom. He'd be so rich that she'd never have to work again. And now he's very rich about twice as rich in fact as Jerry Rice plus demons twelve million dollar signing bonus is also the largest just in NFL history. The truth is after winning his super bowl with the niners. Dion didn't feel satisfied. He's hungry for something else. Now if he can and be the difference again for another team and earned even more money maybe then he'll feel completely satisfied so dion has now officially officially joined. The forty niners most hated opponent and because of it Jerry. Rice and Dion Sanders are rivals. Once again it's September tenth tenth the day after Cowboys Press Conference Jerry's at his locker at candlestick park moments after he caught two touchdowns in the forty niners forty one to ten win over Red Lanta. But he's not satisfied. He's actually quaking with rage before the game. Fox reported that Jerry Rice never even call Dion. Try and sell them on coming back to San Francisco during the niners recruiting battle with Dallas. This was the last straw after a ton of articles suggested that the forty forty niners won the super bowl because of dion and that they can't win without him so now Jerry's had enough. He blows up to nearby reporters. His voice booming off locker room walls. You know what we are angry. You guys turn the ship into a circus. No one individual wins King Super Pro Bowl. It's a team effort. It was insult you guys wrote. It's an insult to the guys who busted their butts during mini camp in the entire season. A nearby forty niners. Pr Rep is trying to calm jerry down to tug him away from saying anything he'll later regret but Jerry's ignoring he's not finished he thunders Dion Sanders. This came to this team for half a season. You guys didn't give any of our other players any respect and that pisses me off. They should get the recognition that they deserve. And and I want each of you to know that in the final episode of Our story Jerry Jerry and dion returned to being competitors and compete in their last and most contentious showdown yet and as their careers wind down and in the years that follow blow the each will face struggles that could fundamentally change them and that will bring the rivalry full circle. I hope you enjoyed this episode of sports worse. If you did you can subscribe. Drive on Apple podcasts. spotify Google podcast wondering DOT COM or wherever. You're listening to this right now. If you're listening on a smartphone tap or swipe over the cover art you'll find the episode notes and some authors from our sponsors by supporting our sponsors. You help us offer you the show for free if you like. What you've heard we'd love for you to give us a five star rating in? Tell your friends how to subscribe. Somebody's going to ask you. Listen to podcasts. Any podcast to recommend boom there. You are heroes. 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Vocal Awareness with Arthur Joseph

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Vocal Awareness with Arthur Joseph

"One wherever you are, whatever you're doing on leading the took some time to spend with me today, today, we're gonna talk about vocal leadership. Arthur, Samad Joseph. He is the former chairman of the vocal awareness institute. He's widely recognized that one of the world's foremost communication strategists authorities on the human voice his voice in leadership training programs vocal awareness teaches communication mastery through a disciplined regimen of specific techniques designed to cultivate, an embodied in enhanced leadership presence and personal presence. He's coached Angelina Jolie. Sean Connery, Tony Robbins, Stephen Covey Jerry Rice, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and many, many more today. I'm delighted that Arthur, spend some time with me, so how you doing today? Arthur, I'm so per hour you spectacular spectacular. So, hey, So Jerry rice, man. That's the greatest wide receiver of all time. I thought he was already super poyser you, the, the man behind the eighty or what well Michael will make be fake differ with you. Whoo. Whenever Michael I've taught Michael for twenty years, and he said, whenever he played against Jerry. You always played better and because, you know, they're tap competitive, and I want to be the best wide receiver on that THEO. Yeah. Jerry said to me the lesson one big could barely. Let him get the Sada Arthur this hard. Couldn't even I wouldn't really say the word work. I said, Jerry, you never uttered that phrase in your entire life because we know what it was in part known for it. Nobody's gonna work. Nestle. I said you're having a voice lesson for goodness, rations. You're saying, this is hard work, but what he was referring to is the intensity of the practice a concentrated. The concentration is all the modalities were working with the same time in reduce CO set. Yeah. Definitely. I don't know that a lot of people realize how important the voice is to the whole perception of the brand, and who they are as people. I know you do. So talk to me about why voice is so oh, hold on. Arthur. You got a time out here go for it. So tell me out again for them going to help you read because off camera you said we've got to play. So I'm gonna have you breed slowly before you make that same, or a similar statement? And then wants to slow down a hundred percent if I slowed on one hundred percent I won't say anything in five for three grading deeper deeper and say, whatever it is you wanna say. Able don't ex- sale that bread speak on bar. Or three to deeper and begin. So Arthur, tell me, why the voice is such an important part of your personal brand. Now, tell me that was really really excellent really excellent underline, the words, personal brand, and see a period at the end of the sentence in three to. Why is it so important to her, but just get a personal brand in three to dynamic and begin? So why is your voice such an important component of personal brand? You hear feel any difference. Of course you do. Yeah. Well feels weird for sure. No. But do you not year? That is you, perhaps a more compelling. If I say to you. It's really, really nice to be able to show that they feel you're such high energy, and I really appreciate the slot. Thank you versus Phillips really nice to be on your show today. I appreciate your energy and your platform, one or two to write one is bogus. We don't know why, but only because it was too fast and too high. We didn't factor that all we hear is, that's not trustworthy yet. Just stuff. The second one we did know that Arthur breathe deeper is slow down his pitch was lower in the end aligned. Couple of words, all you got was more often Tissot. Am I correct? I think so. Yes. And so the theme here today is voice is power, and it's so wonderful that you opened up with the concept of personal brain. I look at your website. I looked at the websites of all the people tuned in here. I they spent a everyone's been south of dollars on this fun, color. Palette everything. He signed to be exactly right. With no Typos, nothing. Our voices are Brandon. Nobody pays any attention. You may have this compelling website. But then you talk in this like wall wall is just talking so fast so high if nothing compelling about it. I I'm just this generic. There's nothing that makes you pay attention in all verbal communication still only eight percent language, what that means is for your listeners, the eight percent of everything. They say Makino. In a podcast is retained by the listeners unconscious mind from the words themselves ninety two percent of conveyed to the sound of the voice body. So I want to interrupt the pattern of the listener. I want to help you embody, your brain. So if I asked you what is the field break? What is my brand energy? It's excitement and its expertise. And are you bright bright is a good word? Are you passionate? Absolutely one hundred percent. Are you integral? Yes. Right. So now going forward, if you would write right passionate. Integral piece of paper. Please. Okay. And also right here myself. Take my time. Okay. Slow down and be big. And just keep that posted in your peripheral line of sight, during our call if you wouldn't mind, so. Okay. Bryan. You. Okay. Cool. So my making said so far just reference the paper before you answer. Yes. Cool years ago when I used to train Tony Robbins referred to my seven rituals had interrupts. You would say the brake old pattern you after exaggerate behavior to create a new. I would disagree many years ago with his basic from the time I said, Tony, we cannot empower, anyone that is. But we can help them power themselves. So vocal Warner says a lot of trademark elements communication mastery empowerment, who voice voice is power. And when I used the Laver doesn't mean big bombastic mill it means integral it means, trustworthy, Jenny. This is a performance were being watched. We're being listened to, but we've misconstrued over all these generations. We think these are presentations were making that PowerPoint that he note this podcast. However, they are not presentations, what word was just underlying them not. And you actually saw didn't you, so it's pay attention in that. None of second. Oh, what's he going to sing next? Subliminally. They are not presentations, performances my last book, vocal leadership, seven minutes, a day to communication mastery, as glossary of route sources at the back of the book we look up the word present presentation. It means to introduce formally to bring before the public. Will you look up the word perform performance, and it literally means to carry out fulfill to do? This is a performance yet conference, call that podcast anytime. Someone is watching or listening. We must pay attention, not just to the message, but the messenger in vocal awareness, it is not simply what we say. But how we say. Okay. So that makes sense. But how does that make us unique though? I mean bright passionate integral. I don't know that that makes us unique. Arthur, how does that help us be unique? Let's not unique to anybody else. That's only unique to you. So this is how I want to tell my store what makes me compelling. What makes me tune in to hear what I take all my, my anchors in my brought might sports analysts in everybody, I can get my access knows anywhere years ago, I was teaching I live in Los Angeles, teaching at the time the number one female lighter. Annella. And I was after her six o'clock broadcast seven o'clock hour room. She came home in between the six on the eleven tvos her show back in the days of tape on tvos, and we're watching in her our session, we didn't get past the first ninety seconds. I said, Laura I do tune into your because your fast, new three uncared for graphic is wrong. I don't care if you prompt went down, I don't want to stay in the kitchen, turn up the volume making dinner. I wanna come out of the kitchen because you can tell me too because I want to hear what you have to say. So you have to tell me the story in a way that is unique to yourself. I want to morph your extraordinary cashing in high energy, which is sauce, sensibly speed driven. To finding other gears because on Justice, passionate all craze of different ways. Does that make sense? That does that makes a lot of sense, so you just listened right, then now do that again. It does it makes a lotta sense. An underlying one word and see every. That does that make sense here. The difference. So I want you to be in charge of missiles, and the messenger. So when you just deliver that simple thought you noticed you tuned in a little bit, correct? I did now you have control. It is the world, according to fill it is the word according to it is sharing their knowledge. I turned seventy three years ago, one of my dear clients. Dear friends used to be the VP of global company. He now as shingle on the Dory left after twenty one years, and he's a media consultant to now. And he gave me a book basketball is favourite for the gave me a book for my birthday. Call the Dassanayake of. In the cover. Art was a picture. President Obama on the cover on the Oval Office coat and tie holding a basketball behind his back. And it's his presidency in his life through the prism of three hundred pickup basketball. And so I have some NBA clients about playing full court three three they said that is, is an intense sport. So join this note to me said, thank you for introducing me to the DASS ity of voice. I said, John to be audacious. We I have to believe in our own possible. So I'm always speaking about DASS ity in the champion. I trade myriad, Champigny champions, all walks of life. In sport in pro football alone. I have my twenty first in twenty seconds students being -ducted this August into the pro football hall of fame. I write their hall of fame, many of their hall of fame speeches, and help, unperformed them as well. If you look up the word champion, so it is not sports Centric. It literally means dazzlingly skill in any. We look up the word day ships. It means bow intrepid courageous fearlessly Terry. So I know you have an audience of single minded individuals so focused on their success. Entrepreneurs at cetera. I'm here to make a difference. That's an audacious concept to do that. Requires the championship in talent. Does this make sense? Absolutely. Now in my book, I speak about hubris. That word if you're looking at means, blaspheming, the gods extreme arrogance nothing to aspire to. I'm a classical singer by training. I have a master's in voice might artists what I do I still seeing pretty well. Pretty done. Well actually, but this is what I do throughout the work around the world. I don't know one artist would elite athletes in the middle of their skill set is not completely suffer. I. That athlete is not wondering if the team approves or if your coaches like what they're doing. That artists on the stage does not hope the audience approves is hubristic in that moment, I completely focused on my ability to be do all that. I must be injured. But out here we get all these mixed messages. Oh, you shouldn't act like that what will be think. Oh, don't say that to sound ever again. So I say you feel vocal awareness is extrordinary work can help you change a life in moments now that's stupid Americans for the face in response woke Lewitt is feel is expert. It can help you change a life lumps. That's not every it's mine trick. So my work is designed to help you own your truth practicing it put your speech on video and studying game film, put your podcast on video and record it set your mic. Upset your camera and studied. It's gained sin. We study every non of second. Could you recorder in your pocket for your keynote, your PowerPoint and go back and we'll listen for that important conference? Call. Uh-huh. Anna's abounding, annoy sound anxious. Oh, that's under really good grieved listen to that. I'm embodying might rain. We study would practice we get better because of this performance. Giving you any pragmatic or hope for tips today. You are you are. And that's a very, very different way of thinking about voice. About all that. We do. Yeah. That's that's fascinating. So let's let's shift a little bit. Because that's, that's a lot of the work that you do which I think is super powerful, but they're in the notes here says, how does gratitude and thinking source affect the rest of our mastery, the rest of our work brilliant, thank you so much. The double back for one moment, when we are speaking to the top of the show, when you introduced the concept of personal brand. In vocal awareness. We create a persona state. Eru to the word, persona liberally means through the Sal. Once identity is largely conveyed to the sound of voice, an opinion created in three seconds, ever since you wrote those words for your persona statement on that piece of paper. Integral passionate at cetera. You've been constantly tuned it, and you use that little posted to remind you. Otherwise, we're in the white noise worthy behavior. Now, you're in our and I only want people to know what we want them to know we don't notice a piece of paper. They're all we get is more, effective sill, and that's all we care. So the persona statement is our room. This is how I want to be no. So then we measured at against all that audio the practice that sound like is person. If it doesn't, let's adjust let's turn how to embody that person and I have all your audience's quicken Brighton. As in tuned in as you are. But I rarely have somebody get it without knowing what they're doing as quickly in. This pretty cool, what you're already doing. So you brought up thanking source. In mastery all forms of master. It's only chief integrate mind bobby's. Here's. I don't know what athlete. I don't know one artist in the wings, just. Visiting hanging out before they go out and do their. Ritual. In the ritual never changes, whether it's the baseline free for a line before they walk on the field before the walk out a little stage. And the ritual always has a spiritual component. Never change. So if I ask you fill sit as a man of stature, and pulling a threat from literally with your hand decide what do from slowly and gracefully from three inches below your navel riding the top of your head. Josh like a notice. The first thing your body does this we with your hand doing what minds do slowly. That's much too fast. I'm old and slow I get whiplash go into fast. It's the here we go. Again, slow you ready deeper? Embodying. Deeper tower tower. Down but stay in that position. He noticed the first thing the body did was inhale. Chest open core is more engaged now of the sentence after five seconds, silent invo is I'm an extraordinary man notice what I underline breath. And I do extrordinary things theory in five three, two one. I'm an extraordinary man. And I do extrordinary things. If you're in feel a little difference. No. Tell me that again and walks. My is gonna do it twice. Tell me which one, you prefer. I am an extraordinary man or. I am an extraordinary man. And I do extraordinaire, obviously the second. So even if nobody sees us, we're on the phone room podcast about video amount was, where the words come from the is tell the story. So here we go again. Four three two. I am an extraordinary man. I do extrordinary things. Here. It's a bit more alive. Correct phil. Correct. Yes. No. The first of the seven rituals is the say thank you say thank you. We're going to be an atheist agnostic and to say thank you aknowledging something out of side of our core yourself. Thank you to God. Thank you to source. Take it in the thought of thank you. Right now is you choose ins- within yourself not allowed and notice the first thing your body does as you say. Thank you really embraced up. Did you? In the room is quieter is on. It is in your Stiller inside. Correct. I am. All because you simply set. So these are focused techniques part of what is called vocal awareness a mastery. For the performance. So before I walk into a meeting before I walk out a little steak before I get up from my chair. When they need to be in my, my empowered moment, focused and ready. Be myself, not present myself. Engage these rituals to break the pattern. Speeches have nobody thinks about these things except me. So we're changing the paradigm. This is communication master. So do you see how these begin the seamless the off, if together, absolutely? Absolutely. And I see why Jerry Rice would say, oh, go love with the breath, lesions the world alone. Testing one thing attention. All right. So I see why Jerry Rice would say that this is hard work. Here. The difference, you feel the difference. Well, and it feel Arthur, it feels uncomfortable. Yes. Will you listen to this podcast, by the way at any point in time? I will notice how it sounds. Because you'll be stunned, and if any of your listeners wanna right in or call it and tell you. We'd like what we're experiencing but equally importantly, feel. Before we had this country station at one year, and it was work now in beginning to teach you how I train a lot of moderate supercross champions, and like Ricky Carmichael in others and. And I don't how many gears they have, and how they do all the things they do in these little old walls up. They write hundred fifty sixty miles an hour on more. But this shift in the lobby gears. I've trained forty five hundred champions and they're shifting a lot of gears. And now you're learning that you've got more than one speak in. That's all I care about. Because now you can play now we're opening up a whole color palette that was no previous ninety available to issue or not aware of so my work has called vocal aware. In awareness of is the first step. Does that make sense? It does. So awareness is the gateway drug to better vocal variety and impact ruin recite set. And so some Cialis, Toda's need for this ridiculous offer years. It greatest fear in society is public speaking, it's completely boats. But that's ability goods. We've been fit. The real fear are two hips. Save abandonment. An ownership of power. Claiming who we are well though, worried about what others think I do not make need your permission to be myself. We walk out on that stage. We immediately forgot feel judged. We even taught speak to the last house garbage all that does is bitch amid higher and faster. We've taught you gotta get to know your audience bowl. I want to tell you my troops and bond with you to the integrity of what we have to share with one another descent mix. It's does it makes a lot of sense. Own this. Thank you. How then if, if our voices naturally, high, and I'm fortunate mine is not. But if our voice is naturally. Hi, how do we do we have to change it? Or can we just take what we have, and just make it more strong? But that brings up a, a next year Cise called finding the hub, of course, onion about my voice in any given room. I'm in at any given moment, I'll do something like this are lifts her gently together. In a little ever will come up my nostrils I because I'm gonna hug and it's very slow in. It's exceedingly nasal I'm going to do this. You're gonna see my hand. Sort in the diagonal of what invoke Lamar assist described as an art. Listen. I'm going to speak from with their pitch in. When I speak, I need to be aware. In given voice in that given moment. That's, that's our optimal pitch low. That with me for lati- lead stature, I. Guide with your hands, slowly, which head up by your mouth fingers together in scripture going, the prime of art like the plane ticking up just like that. Exactly. Here we go again known the sentences. When I speak, I need to be aware in three two. And now the sentence and down the start the hand again in three hand here too in the sentence. When I speak, I need to be aware. You feel in here the difference I do. Gives you away ground voice. Very interesting. Very different. Also, the reason that breathing so important so many levels relig- spirits villages means to grease. The Hebrew word Ma means both soul and breath. Breath in real time isn't just physical. It's also emotional when we're when we're nervous hyperventilate we're going to hold our breaths. Breath in vocal. Awareness is strategic. We mentioned off camera that I'm coming to our Landau next week with a hall of fame golfer. Three time masters champion in. We are having a foam lesson today in quitting aggress. With breath. First putt. Equating what called the edge of sound with the arrival of teashops. Because that's the direction of shot. It's not the less rollout is not that it's an arc. In the mid total sense. So here we're learning to make voice visual. I'm a singer, you ca- music tells me everything. So there's a whole program this, this offering that I'm made available to your to your team. Visual voice. Pro is a trademark piece of Okla visceral language what word was just underline. What two words visceral in Lang? Okay. And so I just have seen words because an eight percent only eight per cent is lying myspace. I know subliminally influencing you pay attention to this. Get all the other stuff, but hold onto this one. So my copy, I'm gonna underline those words in my Pino don't underline those words. And I'm gonna practice delivering them. While. Wow. That's. That's super interesting. And that's also it's fascinating that athletes are the ones that you're talking about the most because if I didn't think about it, I would think they communicate the least, but they need the breath, they need to control. They need the mindfulness awareness because they're already athlete. I've heard from several of my NFL clients. Nick foles who played lights out steel against New England two years ago when they won the Super Bowl in team played lights out in the huddle backup quarterback, literally more than once the team I love you. A football player in a huddle. And they played like he did. And they played for him as though. They did in return love. The gave everything. This is my fifty fourth year of Okla wears. My vision is to change the world to voice, I just launched this past January with my birthday. I ever certification course in vocal awards to train people because this is my legacy time. When you mentioned the athletes, people ever, go to my website and see a lot of superstar needs. Besides the ones you've mentioned at the top of the call. They're also Commissioner Goodell wrote the forward for my last book the Commissioner on the national all. And I- trading. Deloitte, ENY the Federal Reserve Bank. One of my clients is now US Senator in doc dot dot the one in common vocal awareness. And so this is the glue sticks. All forget and is a paradigm shift in communication. And I know I probably overstay my welcome. 'cause I just looked my watch. But you you're so generous in creative in. Thank you. Well, you haven't overstayed. You're welcome Arthur. So please don't worry about that. If you had, I would have found a way to cut you off. So don't worry I do have a little bit of control here. So cool. So, but it is fascinating to me. This is the first time that I've been aware of voice as at least as much, I've been through some training. I've gotten to erode public speaking with Mike, lemme ports and they're wonderful team. And I was in choir, and for a time, but this is very interesting. This is this is something different that I haven't thought of as much and so I'm, I'm appreciative of the time. You're I mean, me as as you are, to me. So thank you. And as you one minute of your narrative, there was a nano, second of you are not tuned in to yourself, which is also a I in that way, pointing out. Because six seven ritualised says, pay attention deeper, listening, in vocal words, we pay attention out here, but we listen, deeply interior -ly again, I want you in charge, not just the message, but the messenger integrity integration of the same route sorts it mean homes. I want to start of you to show up everywhere. Grave is the menu are years ago when I was training, Warren, Sapp who is a hall of fame tackle in the end. We haven't lesson one day I said, Warren. I train him at this point two or three or four years. And I said, one, big, no one should be jug Gant. So he pushes back giving me all the stereotypical reasons as to why he shouldn't do. And I said, war injured trust, I need you to beach again. So in that lesson, we started bringing our exercise is doing things like. One of the vocal awarded exercises. You don't do one thing as an athlete, or artist that everyone stretching, which should never warmed up your voices of professional voice user, your life. We just walk out, we talk or you some nonsense. We don't warm up chops, but we doing vocal awareness. And so I have a wonderful video, I'll come back toward. Well finished warned remind me about the school video. And so Warren comes up to me a few weeks later, Martin, L, A halt the phone network there, one of my clients, and he said, Arthur, you now I like my forty feet around me now coming close in the point, was there more than Tissot. Because they heard all of words, not just the right pastor Warren being hip and edgy. In chains of resonance quality, the timbre every. So I was usually go to Super Bowl this year with my team but I wasn't here the year before. So I wake up on Super Bowl Sunday. There is a text Mike alert. Kurt Warner Ige, Marci saying you ready, boys. What about because on Sundays five AM with hurt? They go like six in LA on game day morning. That's how warm begins and so with the sweet. Oh, BAAs just sin over the internet Yvo. So it was really sweet. But I've got it for us therapy. So anyway, that is super cool. That is super cool. So Arthur, people will want to go deeper with this. There's a lot there. So tell us a little bit about you put together a nice page for us that people can get to we'll drop a link their vocal awareness dot com slash Phil. But what's their Arthur? Why should people go there? Because they would discover work that will help them change the lives. When I said, voices power, which is also early. More effective you become a communicating telling you are embodying your message, the more returns to you in myriad woods. That's right by Chris. Medicos too. I teach him our to voice only been two people on this planet. One, maybe two of ever talked zero fear about being with one was Schwarzenegger was so Esther solemn and. Teach me whatever's going to I'm going for. Most of us are not that less. So this work will help you discover how to be the very best you can. Visual visual voice program. You will learn visceral language. You will learn the grading techniques. This warm technique cetera visceral language which aims the game, it's already impacting you. And you don't I thought it to you, but you're listening differently and that's control and people often want write may so they can write to support. But my team will always forward me every Email. If somebody wants me to respond I will respond personal, so. Also with us offering I believe we decided off for a fifty percent discount, which, I don't you know, choose to do like I chose to do it because it's your team I wanna help them be the best. So they're gonna get ten tastic fantastic. So Arthur, I thank you for the gifts that you've given us today. My pleasure pleasure. And Secondly, folks, check this out like go to vocal, awareness dot com slash Phil. Give Arthur spin checkout. What he's about if you enjoyed today, let them know let me know drop me a now I'll pass it along as well. But Arthur, I'm very grateful. Very, very grateful. Have written down. I really did. You know what I said? No. You tell me, why don't you tell me? Well integrity is, you know, part of who I am and being integral, but you don't have to because already knew that. But you did that because we wanna make sure I, I got it was for me. Not for yourself. Still, I appreciate your respect, but we won't own that. So does that make pragmatic sense, odd sort of way? Does you would never not do it? You would never let doing. Tell me it is the point for sure. Absolutely. I already got your I wouldn't have to do that. Fantastic. Well, folks, not only does Arthur have great offer and his page. But he's also got some great books that you can pick up a lot that you can learn in Arthur Joseph, I'm grateful for you, my friend. Thank you for your time today. Good stuff. But fruit, which plank, you very much. Godless. Thank you.

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"My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom my first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance good. It's it's it's like a cigarette. But not I don't miss smoking. At all. Like, I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Make the switch and J U L dot com slash sports. Warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical. This is the Stephen a Smith show podcast. I'm Steven one in the books another hour to go its Adnan Virk, and Jonathan Vilma in for Stephen a Smith today on ESPN radio and ESPN news. Thanks so much to our guests or Louis Riddick. Our NFL insider extraordinaire, and Alex Honolulu is a mountain climber. Who's proficient at free Soling? Wanna know what that means? It means you climb amount without a rope. Your fingernails your shoes your guts, your guile. That's how you get it done free solo is the name of the documentary featuring Alex in his bid to climb Al CAPP, which is in Yosemite park. Thirty two hundred feet makes you check out the movie available in theaters nationwide hoping to get Jerry Rice a hall of Famer to join us momentarily is he's also got a documentary worth checking out. It's called in search of greatness, directed by Gabe Polsky focuses on Jerry, and Wayne Gretzky and Palay and shows what athletes need to be to be superstars and white creativity. Is so important before we get to Jerry Rice. I wanna talk to my boy JV more NFL circumstances and back to that subject of. Arcus Peterson Sean Payton. So as Louis Riddick was saying inflows were unfamiliar after the saints beat the Rams there is that one specific touchdown. Michael Thomas that seventy two yard touchdown khloe. Burn the Rams defense and aftershocks paid said. Yeah, that's a look that we won. That's we were going for and Marcus Peters. Fires back. Sean Payton, it's yeah. Keep talking that smack rhythm c again, etc. And as you said the Louis earlier today on get up, Sean Payton a guy who played for guy. You know, this is not unusual for him to chirp other players. Right. Not at all. And to be clear. He Chirps that everyone. He's deter at me. I mean, I can tell you. We could see your for hours on the stores. I could tell you, but we would have specifically on Fridays. That would be what we call it our red zone day. So we were practiced a red zone offense and defense and a God so competitive that we frankly would just go once verse one. So we didn't even have a scout team on red zone day because it got so competitive between myself, and Sean, and we were like, look we're going to get the best work out of each other going against drew vice versa going against offense, align, etc. And then not only that the competitive nature of it. We would actually keep tally of who won each play, and Sean, and I will go up to the film room afterwards to decide who actually won each play. Like, that's how competitive begets. So the trash talking I love, and the reason I love is. Because these he's passionate about what he's doing. It's not just a motionless coach that sits there. Okay. Next. Play next play. And he's only thinking through the math. You know? You gotta have some exciting. You gotta have some emotion because the players feel it, and when the players feel that the coaches involved like that, and it coaches exciting. He gets after guys, man. It's a great feeling. I love that. He does that. Yeah. It's kind of guy he'll go for on-site cake to start off the second half of Super Bowl. Right. That's right. The aggression that go for you go. I'll let's switch a little more college football conversation you and I both a big part of our college football coverage you on ABC with Kevin Gandhi and Mack Brown and myself, joy galley. Jesse Palmer every Saturday and ESPN and a couple of games in situations. I wanna get your read on here, particularly Notre Dame. Now in book is not going to play their starting quarterback who's been so important to them. Brandon wimbush now becomes a starter. Again, this guy started fifteen games. And even though he has a strong arm. He's inaccurate with it, which is why Brian Kelly. Smartly said enough's enough we're going to the book and in book has been terrific for that offense. But books out due to injury. They're facing Florida state. This defense is so bad Javy. They've given up two hundred points in the last. Four-game? So I'm sure in book is angry right now. So you know, what I pad my stature against these guys I feel fine. But Brian Kelly op can give him the week ops of Brandon wimbush comes in. You think I don't believe forced his defense is so bad. I I don't even think I'd be concerned. If I was Notre Dame level of concern for the Irish not having your starting quarterback in the book. There should be a moderate level of concern. And it should be less about how poor Florida state is and more about how. Well can Notre Dame execute offensively? And I go back to the start of the season when yes Notre Dame with Brandon wimbush beat Michigan. They won by seven points. And in that game. I specifically remember saying, oh, wow. Brandon wimbush has worked on his accuracy. He's worked on his arm. He's going to be a library than he was last year. Then week to comes Notre Dame plays ball state. Brandon wimbush throws three interceptions to ball state. Now. Boston College, not Michigan state ball state university. And they they won by eight points. It was it was a single score victory that they that they won by. Then the next week they play Vanderbilt, and that one's a close one and Brian Kelly had to take Brandon wimbush out of the game midway through because as you said enough's enough. So we can talk about Florida state. All we want to what I know. Is that Brandon wimbush he will give it up to anybody? It doesn't have to be a legitimate defense. It doesn't have to be a legitimate d one defense. It just has to be anybody. That's gonna put some sort of coverage tight coverage out there and watches inaccuracies as he overthrows his receivers. So Florida's state can very well find themselves in the game late and everyone's saying what's going on. And it could be because Brandon wimbush. So I don't I don't know how Brian. He's going to manage that. Because you definitely can't be one dimensional. You're going to have to air it out at some point, especially with the rhythm that Notre Dame's offense has gone into. So, you know, you gotta really really watch. How Brandon wimbush is playing as a passer, we know can run the ball. How's he gonna play as a passer? Here's your part of it for me. If I'm a Notre Dame fan I'm concerned because November is not been kind to them. Like, there's something about the Irish that you say, hey, this you finish this out strong go on bayton yet number three college football playoff time by Obama and Clemson, but they don't they don't finish strong JV. They've been in this situation before I don't wanna say, they lay eggs or they're over can't do. No. Yeah. And they do they've lost in November every year since they went to the title game every year they lost November six years can say too. So I'm with you that I didn't they beat Florida state. And even though they do have to air on at some point. I think they have a good enough ground game they'll ground and pound and be Florida state the one that I'm concerned about if I'm an owner name fan of Syracuse, and I chuckle against saying that out loud. But this. Syracuse offense is legit. Those guys put a points. Whether it's done to your devito at quarterback. They're going to be planning Yankee Stadium like of all the games are made for Notre Dame. I don't worry about USC. I don't worry about Florida state. But I met Syracuse game that's a legit threat legit concern for Notre Dame. And if they lose that game, they're not making the playoff. Okay. So I agree with you on the first part. Syracuse is definitely the biggest threat of for the last three games of the season. I don't agree that they don't make the playoffs. Here's why. Syracuse also be Clemson. If you remember last year, they beat them by three points and Clemson found their way into the playoffs. Kelly. Bryant was hurt like mitigating circumstances. Exactly. So, and that's that's exactly the point. I'm getting at if you have an ambush who's not ready to play against Syracuse or he trots out there and doesn't look like himself at Brandon wimbush has finished a game. Let's assume that Brandon wimbush takes care of business. Notre Dame takes care of business. They beat Florida state. And then now you're in a predicament where you don't have im- book, you're up against a. Very high powered offense and a team with a lot of motivation and momentum on their side and Syracuse, and then you go out there and you lose by. Three points four points. Yeah. To Syracuse on a neutral site without your starting quarterback. If the playoff committee is going to be consistent, then they have to treat that loss to Syracuse. The same way they treated the loss to Syracuse. When it was clemson's turn when Kelly Brian got hurt in that game. And they went with the backup because that was the whole infuriated me that they kept him in at number four number three at the time. And they basically gave them a mulligan. They gave him a pass. They said, oh, he was hurt. So because it would have been a different team a different score different outcome. So if you're gonna use that logic for one season you have to use it again this season. Because that's the only reason we brought in the playoff committee. We wanted consistency within the rankings. Adnan Virk Jonathan Vilma infra Stephen a Smith and ESPN radio and ESPN news. And I'm we the committee should be more than just all right? These teams are unbeaten. They should all get in. You're right. You're supposed to evaluate strength, schedule and factors. So let's suppose this then let's say. Book comes back and he's fine. Fully fully healthy. Just doesn't have a good game. And no no name losers. And they lose by two touchdowns. Then are they out? Who are we comparing him against so bam in Clemson gonna say are in? I say Michigan beats Ohio State, which is not a guarantee, but I think the wolverines are there represent the big ten. So then you've got the likes of Oklahoma Texas has done now where it will be the winner of Oklahoma West Virginia, right one law. So big twelve champ. I'd say it in a head of in Washington state, if they went down there one loss team, right? So those those your competition. If Notre Dame loses by let's say two touchdowns and they had booked back. They lose Syracuse. In that scenario. I would take were saying Alabama's in Clemson is in that means Georgia's a two loss team. Right. And then Notre Dame laws and we're saying Michigan's in they went out as a one loss champ. Correct. I would take Oklahoma. If they went out as or excuse me, I would take the big twelve champ. If they are one loss big twelve champion over Notre Dame. I'll take them because of though their schedule is frankly as is comparable to Notre Dame schedule. And then you look at the test at the time Oklahoma, it looks really good offensively. Not so good defensively. West Virginia is starting to come around. So have to see what happens in the big twelve title game at Franklin last two weeks. I easily see a scenario where Oklahoma and West Virginia play each other back to back weeks and how the game plays out if it's dominant performance. I would take them over Notre Dame. And by the way, just a thought there in Washington state, as we thought the star, the JV that you double the best chance of the pack twelve right? Remember all the way back in Auburn in the first week. You say we're my favorite. Yeah. Exactly, man. I didn't hear a war. I'm not saying you. I'm saying me everybody. I didn't hear one word about Washington state and kudos to Mike Leach. So I know he's a wacky guy and gets more pump for the fact, he's just kind of off color and a fun quote. But God the guy can coach Gardner Minhsiu their quarterback those three hundred ninety passing yards a game you want offense washes day. We'll give it to you. Yes. Washington. Stay will. But as a something about Washington state. I find it hard to believe that they're just going to run the table. I just don't see it happening. Now. I hope they do because I will make a very very valid argument for Washington state because the same argument was used for LSU when LSU played what was it four or five top top twenty five teams at the time. Time Washington state played three top twenty five teams at the time, and we can either. So we are going to say that Washington state play three top twenty five teams or we're gonna say that they didn't play any top twenty five teams. Well, if you're gonna use that logic, you have to use it with the rest of the teams in the rest of the other conferences because then LSU really only played two top twenty five teams and they lost one. So it's a it's a very very interesting scenario if Washington state where a win out, but we need a loss from we need a loss from Notre Dame or the big ten or the big twelve if you have all three of them sitting there, washing state's gonna be on the outside looking in fashioning definite, go through all the different permutations. Adnan Virk and Jonathan Vilma. Stephen Smith show on ESPN radio a thrill to bring in the NFL hall of Famer the greatest wide receiver of all time. Arguably the NFL player of all time. Jerry Rice new documentary is called in. Search of greatness is directed by Gabe Polsky and it features. Jerry are all. Buddy here from ESPN, Wayne, Gretzky and Palay talking about creativity. And why so important and becoming superstar athletes, Jerry, thanks for the time, man. Hey, thanks for having me. I thought the dock was fantastic. And it's an it's an often told tale when it comes to you and Gretzky that with Wayne he was never the strongest guy. It was strengthening conditioning news. He was the worst. And then when you see Jerry Rice, you'd say dude, I was never the fastest guy now at never know age, but I was able to just be smart and picked my spots, etc. This documentary specifically, I think is going to be so important for young kids out there to say, listen don't be so structured don't worry about running drills la- time. Sometimes it's so important just to free will can you just explain to us how that was important in your life creativity and making you a superstar athlete. Well, first of all Wayne Gretzky and also Pele in here in Wayne talk about his story. He was not the fastest. But you know, he would just work a little bit harder, you know, on being on ice. And and and the way he dealt with. The poke and all of that. And I was the same way. I was not the fastest coming out of college. That was to knock on me. But I you know, I think I've made up for that by being a great route runner being able to catch the ball then to help football speaks. So even to be put in that category up those guys, you know, Gretzky and also Pele it means the world to me I have to pinch myself. But you think about Serena Williams, you think about Michael Jordan, you think about Tiger Woods, you think about Muhammad Ali all all of these great athletes, and and what we try to do to to be great to be honest with you. So the sacrifices that you make you know being able to play when you hurt and still, you know, they have great teammates around you. I think that's the reason why I was so successful in NFL, Jerry. Could you talk a little bit more? About will. You just mentioned briefly playing hurt our working the opponent. Can you talk a little bit more about that? Because you know, frankly, I try to emulate my game around your work ethic. You're y receive is a linebacker, but I loved watching and hearing about how you trained how you were tireless worker you practice hard. And I was like man I wanna be like that guy. Could you explain more about what you would do or how you would focus in when it came to adversity. Well, you know, the thing for me is that I paint tolerance that was very important to me being able to he really play your best football in the fourth quarter. So I had to train my body where where it would really hurt like, no doing off seats. I had this infamous he'll in this hill about two and a half miles up in last eight hundred beaters, it was straight up hill. And it would make guys throw up, and I remember Terrel Barry Sanders, all these players come in to run hill in it was really difficult for those guys. But I think in the fourth quarter. It was like the fourth quarter for me because I you know, I was in tiptop shape. I'm jumping around. I'm ready to play my best football everybody this tire. So is all about that pain tolerance that you have to put your body through to be able to excel in NFL and play when everything is on the line. You look at Michael Jordan. He wanted the basketball when everything was on the line. He wants to be that guy to scored at winning basket. Tiger woods. You know? He talk about you know, taking that shot, you know, after you or once you hit the ball. Then you walking down the golf course you're looking at the scenery and you taking yourself away or second into second. You back over that golf ball you focus again. So all the great players. We know how to. Just take it to a different level and and be successful on a football field. And I'll capable feel in. Search of greatness is the name of the documentary. Encourage everyone to check it out Jerry Rice when the feature. Participants were talked him right now in the Stephen space, John ESPN radio Adnan Virk and Jonah Velma filling in well, my favorite parts, the dock Jerry is Gretzky's talking about preparation before the hockey game. And he says he goes I was playing ping pong five or four tip. Let's say six fifty five I'm just kind of screwing around, and it may be the very famous story. And you could tell me if it's true or not of Joe Montana in the huddle with you guys against the Bengals in the Super Bowl. And all this because they look there's John candy over there is that true. It is. I would tell you. I don't know. I was in the huddle. But I was so focused on what I had to do because I knew importance of airy catch. But I, you know, I've heard Harris Barton say something about that. Hey, you know, Joe about John candy on Donald drive about three minutes. Ten seconds left in the ballgame. We gotta go over like eighty eighty five yards to win that Super Bowl. But I remember Joe he Jones that type of quarterback his composure, and he's always cool. So doing a two minute drill you call in to plays. And I remember Joel squatting down and he calls out the first to place in a second. We broke the huddle everything with completely quite you know, I feel like that was my thing of being in zone. And I could just block everything out. I could just focus on to the attention to detail. And I was able to make some great catches on that final drive to put my. Team in a position where we could win. Well, Jerry, tell me about. Why haven't you because I know growing up a huge fan everyone, I know grown up a huge Jerry Rice fan. Why haven't you done more of consulting more one on ones with players that you identify could have that potential? Be great. I should ask. Have you done that? I really don't know. You know, what I had so many opportunities. But I think I've caused so much into my career that I just you know, I wanted to step away for a little bit. And and you know, eventually, you know, maybe I can get more into where I could be a mentor were players in and get back involved with the Niners all over again. But you know, I still go around up to silty, and I I talked to players, and I remember last year I went out and actually I worked out with the team. And and the guy they couldn't believe that at the age of fifty five I feel run route in in and kissed way out. Now, you gotta tell us who would you be who'd you be in in a sprint drills. Who'd you be in the run on the funny thing it was like these young guys in and you know, on a snap of the ball getting off the ball. And they could not believe how quick I could get off the football. It's all about reaction thing in used to tell the officials throughout. A game. I said, look, I'm always a little bit faster. But I'm always right with the ball everyone else's a little bit slower in a just a reaction thing of being the guys just couldn't believe that. I could get off the ball so fast and also run, but precise routes Jerry Rice one last one for Jerry, let you go in search of greatness is the name of the documentary. How did you get approached by gave Polska this documentarian? And why were you willing to share your story? What was it that you felt was important that you wanted to share? Well, you know, he actually got in touch with my my assistant, and she said, well, you know, this might be something that that's very interesting, and it it's just like it's crazy guys because I do stuff best really crazy. Even with ask what start when they get in touch with my agent. So I said, okay. All right. Let's give it a try and we sat down, and we started talking, and I was like this is gonna be so cool because you know, people get an. Opportunity to see what you saw on the football field. I mean, I mean talking about the preparation all of that the sacrifices that you had to had to make you know, with everything is on the line being that guy that that really wants to ball. And he also told me that Wayne Gretzky what's going to be a part of and also Pele, and I'm like, wow. You don't have to be, you know, on a documentary with Bill two guys, you know, that would be pretty cool. So I decided to go for it. Yeah. It's funny too, big hockey guy. Righty played college hockey and him and Wayne have that connection. Red Army's his previous documentary. I don't know how much you knew about football. But clearly you guys had a good report it it definitely comes across in the documentary. It's called in search of greatness. I encourage people to check it out and search greatness dot com. We always loved having Jerry Rice here at ESPN. And that to throw the other watching this movie. Thanks so much time in. Hey, thanks for having me guys. You guys have a great day. Okay. 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I did not have like my mechanic calling may or masseuse Mr. for rookie missed your appointment. And I listen, Adnan Virk Gionta Vela in for Stephen Smith that I I knew JV is such a pro he could just keep rolling. He would know that. I even if I was paying attention. I'm not being an issue. You can't even see me right now, can you? I haven't seen you all show. I can see you. Yeah. I'll just roll, man. Just racially. He's just go. Did you see me on the phone as you're talking? If I had our of our of had the best time messing with you about it. So I wish I did see on there. You would have blown me up is what you've done. Oh, yeah. It'd been like so watching say, oh, hey an-and. How're you doing? Then. I would check my phone and be like, okay. So this is what we're doing. Now sliding dams or here. Okay. Interesting about. Sliding. All right. We've been talking a lot of NFL college football actual dive into the NBA here. But went terribly is presented by progressive shirts with more than thirty unique coverage options available progressive, no small business. Learn more progressivecommercial dot com. Need game tickets. Find your seats vivid seats official ticket partner of ESPN. Enter promo code ESPN at checkout, receive ten percents off your order today, vivid seats NBA action. I don't know about you JV. I I listen I like the NBA and I'm into it. But I I don't pay too much attention until we get through the college football regular season, then December I'm following college hoops, obviously and a little bit NBA we go from there. But this will get my attention and someone says to me Steph Curry's hurt I go hang on a second hold the phone here. Especially since I'm gonna rely on you as far as being our doctor here and tell me the specifics of an ad Dr strain because I know listen, the warriors are so loaded. You know, the cynic in me says listen wake me up in January, February March whatever like they're going to run this thing. But the only thing that could harm. From them. Is it some injuries happen? And not just one guy to guys if curry goes down and Klay goes down if Durant goes down and so on and so forth. So Steph curry leading Thursday nights lost the bucks last night, abductor, strain, his left leg. Steve Kerr says he'll undergo an MRI today curry told Marc spears. I'm not nervous. I've nothing to go off of if this was an ankle. I could tell you four days twelve days, but I will see tomorrow I've had never done this before. So I have nothing to go off of give any sort of history with abductor straits, and you give me anything on this. So I had to sports hernia surgeries. And so if it's similar to. What I experienced then I can tell you that it is very uncomfortable. It it's not that he can't play. It just becomes very uncomfortable to play. And there's no reason for for Steph curry to be superman and try to play through this the rest of the season. He would just be eighty five percent himself. The the thing. I liked though, big picture about the Golden State Warriors is that they've been through this before they just went through this last year when they didn't have you see we were pulling up the stats right here. Thirty one games without them seventeen and fourteen yet, they still swept celebs a LeBron James Eastern Conference team. So you know, we can talk about oh, what does this mean? And what's going to happen? The warriors have taken the approach, and rightfully so we need everyone. One hundred percent when accounts and that's going to be end of the season. We will. We will end up a one c to seed it doesn't matter as long as we have everyone healthy because the only thing that matters. And what people remember is them sweeping the Eastern Conference opponent for another title. So I'm not concerned about it at all. I love the approached at the warriors take with all their players, frankly, not just Steve Steph curry they do with all their players take your time. Get back when you are fully healthy and can perform at one hundred percent because that's when we're unstoppable Steph curry last night, just five of fourteen ten points at twenty six minutes. Lowest output of the season to your point about resting guys or not pushing guys dream on green. With a tow sprain was out last night, Shaun Livingston did not dress trae might be back Monday against the clippers. And of course, the sleeping giant is. The fact that got DeMarcus cousins gonna be coming back in March. That's the part of the craziest part JV like if you if you tell me in March their crown cruise control and all they're walking back a guy. Boogie cousins who can be twenty ten every night. He just listen. I get the fact that you need. To have it Goliath, and every sport the eleven Marie hate him. But that's the point you say this isn't fair on the so fun to watch though that that's what I love about. They're so fun to watch. You know, I go back. I keep referencing the the NBA finals last year when you watch how selfless they were. It didn't matter if Steph curry was hot. All right. He's the hot hand they've passed it to them if Kevin Durant was all, right. He's a high hand. Let's go through him if not and they're trying to figure out who's hot. They were passing by look like Harlem, Globetrotters the way that they were pass pass pass pass. Find the open man get the best shot. It wasn't just one on one basketball here. One on one basketball there. We're gonna fours four three pointers. Just because I it was really good Chris bass while they were playing. That's why I can't hate them. They're loaded is selfless. The they are awesome. They're selfless superstars. That's what they are fun. Good. Chris basketball that cannot describe the Houston Rockets right now, this is is not that they're bad. The surprise is there. Bad offensively Mike dantonio summed up the stay their offense. With one word said it's anemic. They were historically elite last year JV, they lead the NBA an offensive rating average one hundred and fourteen points per one hundred possessions curly, the rockets are four and six that happens. I ten games this season for twenty sixth in points per game one or three point nine. It's a third time. They failed to score at least ninety and Chris Paul is career lows right now feel percentage of thirty nine percent in three point percentage of twenty seven percent. And before we dissect Chris Paul, let us add Houston Rockets signing Carmelo Anthony over the summer Mela last night, two points on one of eleven shooting in twenty minutes alone field. Okay. When a goaltending. Call like that is horrific. I'm not going to beat a dead horse with Carmelo Anthony. And I mean that almost literally because he hasn't been a great player for past three years. And he even when he was a great player. He didn't get make anybody else better around him. He was very selfish but going back to Houston. They miss Trevor Reza. Trevor REEs was an unsung hero for them. Because he provided a spark he provided threes he provided toughness, and he provided defense when you when you take that away. And then add to the fact that Chris Paul is not in his prime. He's been out of his prime for the past three or four five years. Now, what he's been is a very good general. He's been very good savvy veteran still great ball control. And he sees the court very well. And his game has shooting game. Was there right now? It's not there. So what you're getting from? Chris Paul is is a shell of himself. And then we're going to try to have James. And go one on one all day that doesn't work. You can't do that in the west maybe in the east maybe that doesn't work in the west. You gotta play team ball. You have to have the supporting cast and bringing mellow over. You know, they, you know, it sounds like, okay? We're going to lose a reason game mellowness supposed to be like a an advantage and in my eyes. It's not an advantage. You looking at a guy that's past his prime as well was always selfish. I don't know how he fits into the mix for Houston. Yeah. And it's one thing when when one guy's a bad shooting that happens. But so far the entire team. Can't you? That's why I think dantonio must be dantonio rather should be so frustrated because you go well Paul's nut shooting James harden was seven of nineteen mellows you've discussed as a mess. So there's no easy answers. They're they're not welcome three. They're not should welcome restricted area. And Dan, Tony. I parts a lot. It's mental energy. We just gonna find a happy spot and go but four and six out of the gate, not gone. You know, I think they got they have to make the extra pass, you know, right right now. It was okay to shoot contested shots. Right. And they would make now they're not making them. So you gotta get the open pass. You gotta get excuse me. Yeah. You hit the open shot. Make the extra pass get the open shot. And then hopefully, you can start getting into a rhythm. You get into a room. That's all they need it. It's no different than what an offense in in the NFL. They get into a rhythm. And they get into a ten play drive twelve play drive. That's what he needs right now. They don't need one on one basketball. They need to continue to pass pass pass look for the open. Shot wide open shot coming up next needs some ditch diggers because we're in a bury the Dallas Cowboys two days early against the eagles. Coming up. Sunday night will preview it I never Jonathan Vilma. Stephen Smith show on ESPN radio. What a bump sees? Peter manning NYC makes clothes for the not. So tall guy. Pants the shorter. In seems shirts. You can wear on talk and jackets that don't fit like a tent check out. Peter manning, NYC dot com and discover a great fit use code ESPN for twenty percent off your. Guess what you're in the middle of a Stephen swift show podcast. Dammit. Thanks so much. You're checking his talk today this show flu. Adnan Virk Jonathan Vilma in for Stephen a Smith on ESPN radio and ESPN news Tiffany on a silently will be back on Monday. But check out the podcast in case you missed the show, including NFL Hala favor. Jerry Rice, join us. Of course, the Canadian has to ask the question about the great John candy when Joe Montana the Niners about to beat the Bengals at last a final drive Montana. Very calm unflappable always cool Joel up because hey is that John candy in the stands asked your rights, whether or not that's true. He said he was too locked in a game wasn't sure Joe setup. A Harris Barton confirms that he said my question, if you Jonathan Vilma is this can you give me a story along those lines, you plan some enormous games where a guy made a comment that seemed awfully offhand awfully casual considering how big the stakes were at that moment. You know, I'll go to. Sean Payne in Super Bowl, and you reference it earlier when we did the onside kick, and I remember we practice it for two weeks. So on the defensive side, you know, we when special teams is up. We're on the sideline we're watching them practice. Onside kick. So we kept saying after watching it for a week. We're like man you guys better run this. You're practicing it every damn day you might as well run this. And so we didn't know that Sean I'm gonna take seriously. So I remember we go in we're down at halftime. And Greg Williams is there. He's he's motivating us. Like, hey, we're doing, well, etc. Going against Peyton Manning. And then Sean knocks on door opens. Like, hey, we're like what's up? We're gonna do the onset kick and close the door. They didn't wait for reactor. We're going to close the door. And we all just look like. All right. Well, there it is. Well, that's happening. So let's get ready. Let's see what's up going to say. There's two reactions you get into that. Either one. It's like Braveheart everyone just started screaming and yelling or it's exactly what you describe it, man. Well, every go, basically, we're like because you know, we're we're in the moment, and he just comes on never. He never interrupted the defensive side of half-time, his I k and he waited for us to respond like what's up? We're gonna run the onside kick. All right. Let's do it. That was one of the best parts of seeing that Phillies special. Call just how casual Nick foles and Doug Peterson. Was you run to over crew? Hey, Phillies special of a three second pause from Doug Peterson. Let's do it. The best. You know? I it's so funny because I know exactly what they were feeling in that moment. When you're you're in the game, you're in control, you you're out there playing you can control a you got in your own destiny. But as a fan or someone watching just sitting there like this like oh. Are they gonna do, you know, you you kind of as a player you lose focus sometimes of the big picture because you're so caught up in this play. And I'll never forget when we're in the Super Bowl, and I'm going against pay manning. I was thinking about every film. I watched him first and second down what his tendencies were after a run its Tennessee after a pass where you wanna go. Well, where was Reggie Wayne lined up or if he's lineup over here. Then this is what they like to run. So when someone stopped and reminded me like, hey, we're about to win the Super Bowl that I stopped. And I was like, oh, wow. Yeah. You're right. Who are about is Super Bowl. I have to locked into what was going on. So that's why I usually just see those real nonchalant. Reactions like yeah. Okay. We'll do that. Okay. All right now, they're not feeling nonchalant and big d the Cowboys taking on the eagles Sunday night. Dow shit three and five they feel like they got the way of the world on her shoulders whereas eagles. Four and four and I would contend they're better than that. At a couple of late collapses. Of course that game against the Panthers as a terrible loss because it had the game ready to go. But they hold on against the Jaguars in London. And I feel like Philly who's now just one game back the Redskins. I still feel like this. And they're not this your we'll championship a year ago JV, but I think they're going to win the NFC east was Louis Riddick agreed with me on. And I think the Cowboys obtain right now, I didn't they get dummied. I don't even think it's a close game in Philadelphia Eagles hammer, you agree. I agree. The one the Cowboys are terrible on the road to a little news that went by unnoticed was that. Paul Alexander the offensive line coach for the Cowboys was fired during the bye week. And that tells you a little bit about the state of that of that team because the offensive line was supposed to be the strength of the Dallas Cowboys. So and you had the coach getting fired you have changes. And frankly, your coach only gets fired when your team your players aren't producing. So offense align is producing. Will. Dax Prescott isn't producing will. We have Zeki will. But he has a offense align to run behind. That's not that good. He's still doing a well, not great. And then frankly offense is boring. So you know, there there's too much going on. It's hard enough to win a game. If there's too much going on before with outside factors for them to even get ready to really win Phillies, all focus. They're locked in run the ball play action play good defense, and they'll win crazy thing you mentioned that offensive line, right? But a couple of years ago in Dacca and the Cowboys really feel themselves at great season. They had the offense of line on the best, you know, in history. Now, it's like that. That's one of many problems that ails this team. It just shows. How critical line plays an often goes undervalued by the average fan. I it really is. And the you always start to notice it when you see the quarterbacks getting rushed making Aaron throws. And that's when we start to knows what why is he making the errant though. And then you go back and watch film, you see. Oh, that's why offense align play. This is a blast Chevy. Thank him. A man why we're done already. I was gonna say two hours. Man you blink. And you missed it. You feel good. We need another hour. I'll tell you this workaholic he does get up eighty to our radio show Jonathan Vilma. You see him on ABC tomorrow. You'll see me on ESPN. Thanks. You. Listen, Stephen, a Smith show on ESPN radio stash just a sample of what you hear on the Stephen swift show, weekdays at one PM eastern on ESPN radio and the SPN app.

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The Nat Coombs Show: Nat, Mike & some guy called Jerry Rice

"Haizhu fantasy team might A. Why haven't checked ages? Everyone's bored by the stage. She's no anti that's enough out of you whiny Limi- that soccer author not football and this powers. NFL fantasy running on just the six PM gains. It's only it gained week long. No season-long boredom no excuse this and seven hundred and fifty pounds in prize is guaranteed. He's reach potty power fantasy. Hake waiting love winning. How do you how does he rules? Apply you must be able to hello welcome to the net coom show presented by paddy power five five to see good to have you with us mid week show which can mean only one thing. I N Mike in at the house when I say in the House. We actually recorded this one on location occasion on Tuesday at the NFL Academy Exciting Times for the Academy launching. Then you JIM recording a special. NFL Academy pod. That's going to drop brought later on in the season. But I'm mike recorded on location with. We got down to business of course but very very special guest as well as Mike in the frame of the Goat Jerry Rice. No less in the house caught up with Jerry Rice. We're going to drop that into after the I might catch up just just a bit of housekeeping for you before we get into it though. Forget are Paddy Power Fantasy League which is free to enter three to enter loads of cash prizes to be won lots of you involved evolve last week. Lots of you. One so congratulations. This I join you gotTa Fantasy Dot Patty Power Dot com forward slash league forward slash. Not Fumes shows fantasy doc. PATTY POWER DOT com. Ford's Ashley would slash Napkin show. We're going to push that link out across all social channels as well and if the dogs on at the NC show on twitter facebook you'll find the link and get involved with that games this Sunday right. Then let's get down to business jerry rice in just a bit but first up on Mike Mike and I on a road trip. How about that we let him out of? ESPN here at the NFL. Academy a very special day for them with the launch of the gym in the inaugural season. The first season of the academy. We're going to be releasing a very special episode all about the first year of the NFL. Academy what's not to love on Mike and Jerry Rice on the same show normal business as usual on Wednesday taunt to get into. Let's start with with Monday night. Football in Mexico City. No less and I think everybody was hoping for another Mexico shootout. Didn't live up to that hype. And probably most notable Philip rivers having another abject day by his usually high status four interceptions which cost the because. Yeah and it was interesting that the chargers if you watch the first half the charge should've been ahead in that game by two touchdowns at least But turnovers hurt them a couple of big plays by by Kansas City but they went away from the run game really early and I was surprised prized that. Because Gordon was running echo was tearing them apart running and receiving wounds back in business and and that surprised me because also we know that Kansas the city's run defense is not necessarily the strongest point of their team but Daniel Sorensen the safety was funny because one of the commentators said you know everyone knows. When when you play in the chiefs you throw at number forty nine? I wonder why that is. I was sitting there safe saints of the screen. You know. Well maybe it's because he like his four eight forty that's why he did get drafted early interceptions. Not long after the guy said this he got an interception and maybe that's why he's playing but I just thought begins in the conflict seen the same thing from rivers a lot this season. It's not unique in that. Could about clause of course that the generation that he is any live benched earlier on this season. There's talk breeze with his injury. He seems fine again. But there's talk that he is perhaps coming towards the end of his career Rothlisberger out for the season Brady and his performance on Sunday the same talking heads with throwing up that is brady coming to the end. Well do you get a sense. Mike inevitably given their age. This collection of brilliant quarterback is coming to the twilight. That's a good point. It'll be interesting to see what happens with. Eli whether he hangs around with tries to have a year or two with another team to prove movies not finished basically I think he might. I think the kind of question of pride. MDC has indeed to his. He is what he is career. Wise via office burgers probably gone as well. I would take but he'll come back. He'll come back but I can't see him. Lasting than pride is really interesting point when you think about what makes these guys champions and what has propelled them to the top to stay at the top for so long. It's not the simplest Tony off that no not absolutely not and there's the thing about going out on a high note or a low note. Oh you know and you you say to yourself better than that I really wanted. But but in football especially it depends so much on the cast around you and there's only so much the individual quarterback can do and we've had the discussion many times about hall of fame. Likelihood for those three is Wall came into the League together. And I'm not convinced the more I think about it. It you know that any of them are locks for the hall of fame and that the you know the the The twitter addy will crazy with that but the bodies memory doesn't extend beyond beyond actually back to the beginning of their careers in some in some cases and and I think they're all in the hall of the very good but you know. We were talking to Kenny Anderson. A couple of weeks ago and Kenny. Hannah Anderson's not in the hall. Then maybe there's a case to be made that these guys are on. That border line and I was thinking last night while I'm watching the game. If if you take the number of teams and the number of quarterbacks over a decade how many quarterbacks from a decade should be in the hall realistically maybe six Max from each a and it's hard by decade players cross decade lines. They start in two thousand four. They go on. But you can't have every good quarterback in the hall of fame And the stats lines are just insane because you have to. You have to set them relative to their so everybody's put up much better numbers. John United Joe Montana or whatever but relative to these era to normalized Jerry Rice. Oh Yeah Jerry Jerry Rice the now it's it's like he might still be playing. You know if you hadn't if he had turned up but the last night's game just just go back you know for for for the chiefs who are a good team when everybody's healthy and everybody said they lost tyreek Hill early which which hurt the hamsters. Yeah and you know and I was saying it that the NFL was gonNA take ten percent off all the stats from this game because it was played at such high altitude Nicole Hardman wasn't really a factor. They didn't get the ball to him. Much Mahomes had three runs which were probably the deciding thing in the game from threatening to throw a hundred yard touchdown kabaddi possible. I don't know if he was threatening the media was like to see if the but the most important person this game was probably trade pipkins pins and trae Pipkins was the rookie tackle. who had to start for San Diego because Russell Luke Kuhn as as walt is out injured again now? Last year he was playing Pursue University of Sioux Falls South Dakota which means he was playing Winona state last year and now he's got Frank Clark so it's no coincidence frank. Mark had a great game pipkins. That was rude inch moving from division two college to the. NFL's is a big jump for rookie tackle. and Ah the chiefs stayed in contention. They've got Oakland. Now Yeah Flex and and when you when when you look at the two teams you just think. The chiefs are much better team the Oakland even with their defensive problem. It's been Oakland is playing solid solid also questioned whether the chiefs big place ace could and McCoy was hurt. Williams was running really well at the point where you got injuries could cost them. That is a difficult time for them. And he said Israel Mo Jo Joe. `Bout the rate is at the moment which is remarkable. We've talked about that a lot of the season the fact that they're even in this position that we're talking about them as possible. Divisional credit is proving the doubters what is wrong. Although being being the Internet they'd forgotten that they were doubting him suit six weeks ago. Jon Gruden Mo- Jon Gruden could have that. Were injured. So let's move on and talk about their calling happening. We did get into that with and keep Dini on the Monday show. Because I knew I I was catching up with you on Wednesday and really keen to get into this in detail so to refresh our listeners memories cap of course. Last time we talked about on the show was getting set for this public work or at least open to thirty to thirty two teams on the Saturday in Atlanta and the plot thickened and a whole curious chain of events really that an hour or so before the start time companies people announced they weren't going to be holding the trout out in the designated location. They weren't happy with the number of contractual things they wanted the. NFL wanted cap to science. They moved it to location about forty minutes away from the original one. This is on a Saturday anyway and as as we talked about. That's a ridiculous on about that last week. So it wasn't a full attendance of parts from the thirty two teams. And it certainly wasn't any of the major major players the coaches series front office guys decision-makers anywhere. I should say to be precise with that because it was on a Saturday in. They just can't be at that event so the whole thing went from the sublime to the ridiculous really on the back of it Mike. You suggested last week that it was probably a duality to this whole exercise. Yes yes. ps done insofar as the NFL saying quite publicly. We're drawing the line on what has happened in the past. At the same time there could be some kind of substantial outcome here insofar as capital as a result of this could get back into the thinking of teams end up with the team as a result. Now how you see this happening with the left field changes on the day itself. What do you think now? I thought that I was giving the NFL benefit of the doubt in in a Lotta ways thinking best case scenario what they're doing is they're saying to the teams go ahead and sign it right. That's what you want to do. We don't have a problem with that and it's always. He's been a league wide problem now. that as I said last week that reeks of collusion. When you're arguing we're not colluding and then you say to the teams? Okay go ahead and sign but the negative they give sideways. It was mostly a stunt to cabinet on the back foot and I think that's the way it turned out and the reason. I think that is when you look at the waiver. He was asked aside and every player has to sign a waiver when he does try out for a team. Because if you do get hurt or whatever. The team doesn't want the responsibility of having to pay your medical costs costs and that kind of stuff but when you looked at the waiver the wording was a bit different in in two of the sections and he was indemnifying the NFL over anything connected with the workout and his people looked at that and thought well his signing is connected with the workout so if we were to have some further dispute with the NFL over his not being signed we're now indemnifying the NFL against the. It's not the standard wording it was warning that was inserted into it. So that's what they refused to sign that at the. NFL would argue that. It can footage right well and also what they they did. was they say to the press. It was a standard a standard thing. He wouldn't side and all the press they will look. You've got assigned you know you can't be special that you are special. Because there's there's dating a one person shirk jerk out. His situation is distinctive. And you know now Eric Reid is come to his defense very smartly and some of the mouth. Clouds are now fighting being eric. Read on on twitter and I think I think in the end the only legitimate way that column captured that is going to get to a team in Mississippi goes to a team in the team stages at work out with him so based on what they want to see from him but if we yeah if he says no than Oh yeah that's been the that's been the you know. All we turned down the contract with with the broncos. He didn't resign with the forty niners. What his contract was up? He doesn't WANNA play play. That's always been the mantra but it's not. I doubt that it's true and remember to. He's thirty two now. He hasn't played three years. It's a real at this stage. It's a real gamble and if I were a team even thinking about it I would want him in my facility with some of my players with all my offensive coaches look. I don't need to go up in. NFL kind of organized workout at interview. He'll point of that on field of course in the question about whether he's able to perform at the highest level anymore. Oh and what teams exciting is there. A reason not to sign him because of the distraction that his acquisition would would call us whichever side of the argument urine here in terms of his political activism and his his stance that's undeniable that if you signed him that would be a lot of media attention. There's also the issue that not in fact. It was very divisive at the time many of his teammates many players in the NFL. It's pretty much split down the middle in terms. That is what you agreed with him doing it or not or at least certainly that was split down. The middle is probably not not accurate. I think there's there's there's a large portion awesome players really backed it and there was a sizeable number of players who didn't back it but what we're willing not to do anything because they figured did it was his right to do that if he wants to. And there's a smaller minority. I think players who would be opposed to it. Okay Fair enough but it is split in in how L. Conceal again. This is removing any personal position on it. It's looking at teammates in San Francisco. Never had a problem with it. That's that's the interesting thing through the season and the end of what was not a great season he was like he got some teammate. A Year award or something like that from the team so he signed Mike. Let's just speculate if he signed all he's in. The process of being considered the interview process is inevitably going to include William Hill again again. Probably yeah and he and he would probably say I leave my options open. That would be. That would be funny to one of the podcasts that I was listening to the host of the podcast they were both the host and the guest. Were both saying. No you have to follow. If you'RE GONNA team player you have to follow the team and I'm sitting there saying well which team team was. Staging this interview wasn't a team. It was it was the league but then once and you know this is this is not no one's taking away your freedom of speech or anything and then I thought to myself. That's exactly what the whole thing back in the beginning to me. It's a football question. It should be a football question and the question is do we think Colin Kaepernick could play ahead ahead of some of the guys who are playing now and I think the answer is probably yes. I don't think he's going to be a star player anymore. But then when you look at Lamar Jackson and his offense groman that's exactly the offense they were running or exactly but it's similar offense to what they were running in San Francisco when you had that really good year. He's not the runner. Lamar Jackson is he's more of a straight ahead kind of guy. He's not the passer. Lamar Jackson is. He's not as accurate but he's got stronger. Arm was just one of his problems. He tends to drill balls in. The guys can't catch so there should be a place for him and the NFL. If he really wants to play the final thing on cap and you alluded to earlier mike that he might not go into a starting role they could be a backup spot. And quite conceivably there should be a backup spot if you if you base this on ability and nothing else. I've heard quite a few people suggesting the last week. That's an inherent problem here. If Catholic was a great play was performing an elite level. When all this happened he'd still be in the NFL NFL? Probably Yeah. I think that's a really good point because we keep we give great players a lot more leeway down Josh Gordon's and men Manteaux browns and guys like that for for reasons. That are more disruptive than than Colin Kaepernick's political show political stances assist. That's the issue here. But that's the case was the case in the world status. There's always a double standard involved in. And that's that's it's going to be the problem for him. I if I were a team like say Tennessee where I'm going to have a quarterback controversy because Mariota will be gone presumably antenna hills on a one year contract. I'd sign him now. And just just for the sense of having somebody there who I can work with for for the remaining months of the season and then have for next year so that there isn't a void where the quarterback position should be s and best case scenario. You draft a quarterback and you've got capture nick there to do that kind of one year veteran stand. Dan didn't stand it. I mean Denver. Can the kid couldn't elway get loose from Joe FLACCO. I mean look at look at Carolina when we were on the Kyle Bandwagon as far as that went but but always game manager yeah quote unquote and that that gets caught up so you can't. You can't can't show defensive coordinators what you don't want to do before they start trying to force you to do what you don't want to talk to him. You know well this next season the quarterback back situation around various the NFL here in a significant need. Of course the news breaking over the weekend. We got into this on the PO. Monday with Ben Isaacs about two at this getting his hip out of the season out of the draft of the first round of the drop by all accounts you'd think given the significance of the injury and that was something that Ben suggested as is an option at team taking him as value pick albeit a gamble value pick and say the second or third round and having him sit. He's not gonNA be able to play next season under and more experienced quarterback. Yeah that would be. That would be a smart move but he has to declare. That's the problem. He would have to declare for the draft and not declaring in spending a year out and then and then going back to Alabama maybe playing or maybe not depending on what. Nick Sabin does regarding now what he was doing the game at that point. I'm not convinced I'm not quite convinced events but you have to. You have to run up scores and college football because Alabama now has a loss. So they're going to get into the playoff. They have to beat people. Oh by bigger scores and tried to impress people. Don't actually watch the Games but read the scores and vote for it. So there's always a lot of running up the score thinking off to the bench on Monday about quarterback situation because we discussed on the show that it might not be the worst thing for two or there might be some good that comes out of this and that because it will change his trajectory. He ended up bouncing into a situation that long-term on the basis he's able to play to the same level that will benefit and far the first drive ended up at the bengals. Absolutely you know. And he's got extra time to learn in the classroom in the film room I'm thinking of like Frank Gore Springs to mind is a guy who went later than he should've because he suffered a really bad knee injury right and you you the team Trying to think who drafted him But you draft him and then Redshirt a benefit in effect for year. You know if you could get to. I don't know if a team would be willing to risk second round pick. Maybe third or lower are low second round pick in terms of quarterback situation. Something that is fascinating. There's like so much in life. There's a huge amount of talent island better fare better luck as well in terms of where you land where you're bouncing back Prescott the poster boy for that as well. He was in the right place at the right time to take up and and how how he's changed from from I mean he was more than a quote unquote game manager. When when they had that? Great season with Zeke Elliot. But right now he is the cow. He's carrying the team on his shoulders. I also should be the MVP in the CONVER- in the conversation I think about autopsy Cuyler Murray for example. He's going into a great situation because he's got a coach wants is to to use him the way he needs to. But it's still it's still a difficult Transition the him and we saw that I was watching the game against San Francisco and he was. He's having having troubles making bad. Read Smith in that throws it will come around you know but it you you almost think it might be easier if he were still under studying somebody. The problem is of course. You don't have many people who can do the kind of offense that Kingsbury wants wants to do. A Beckham was a funny one because it was a super blandino it was a super bowl. Super Blandino twenty penalties for two hundred and thirty one yards expecting one mega blandino. Yeah I mean I. It has uh-huh because we all know from Mike Pereira Jeans Territory Dean Blandino that the reason we watch the. NFL's to watch referees. Make the right decision even if it takes twenty minutes of watching it woven over again to getting into fishing quickly. That's kind of bounce around to the Texas and the Andre Hopkins Interference Call. It wasn't given bit was challenged. That still wasn't giving feel sorry for bill. O'Brien statistically we get into this on on the radio show on Sunday. These challenges are just. It's not going to be at a time one. That San Francisco gave Richard Sherman. That's that's true with wrote about that and it was pretty. It was pretty late. Just just like the just like the one on. Humphries was for the for the Ravens. I mean humphries was was it was like three interference. His left arm around the guy pulling him back his what his right arm came through him in the helmet and then he came down and grabbed his arm with his right arm but it was like. Was this house not giving house on review already rows it. Okay how can you do. You think that is happening. Do you think they had to be something off to the championship game. Yes this end. But they didn't really make any knee-jerk overreaction which is always the case with the NFL and what are they worried about that when it so agreed. We're not worried if it's not a national game in prime you're setting and but when but it is and you get you get the hubbub that comes around that they think we have to do something that what they do is almost always because they. They don't don't necessarily rewrite the rule as much as they write the interpretation of the rule and as I keep saying the pass interference rule is quite simple once the balls in the air. You cannot interfere Peter with the right now and what they've done through interpretation they've paraded Mike Pereira's so that interfering means gaining an unlikely advantage to the one thing you always have to remember is the receiver has to catch the ball. The defensive back doesn't have to catch the ball that means if he's quote unquote arm. Fight your hand fighting's word. They like like to use if he's hand fighting with the receiver. It doesn't hurt him at all. He doesn't care about catching the ball with receiver. Can't catch the ball. Someone's holding your wrists your you know. And it's it's like it's it's the basketball ization in the sense of of American football. And I I really think it's one of those things that that needs to be rewritten or now go back to the original kind of definition and make the calls even if it ruins the game temporarily because eventually the players will have to come by in basketball. When I was a kid I remember how it started? A defensive player would put his hand on the guy with the ball as he's dribbling and if the referee didn't call it the next I think you do is you get your other and it goes down that slippery slope and that's what's happened but it makes it makes the game random. It's kind of like rugby refereeing. You know where you. I don't know which rules the rugby referee. How interprets and you you really want you? Don't you don't necessarily want right or wrong. You want consistent. That's that's that's who we we won't. Hey speaking of slippery slopes and go down. Let's get your top five okay. Well the top five international players given that we're talking about the NFL Academy. It seemed like the great thing to do and I realized you have to a divide this up in some ways because first off the definition of international players in my mind now doesn't include guys like Ted Hendricks was born in Guatemala or Leo nominee was born born in Italy. Six months then moved immigrants or their their parents. hines ward was born in Korea. Because his father was in the army serving those guys don't count counts so we want them off the slate right away. Then kickers were separate categories. We're GONNA have a top five kickers so the top five kickers apologies to my buddy mick. Walker's because he's Baker the list of Sebastian Janikowski from Poland National under seventeen or something football player. And then he outgrew Bruce Soccer basically Gary Anderson from South Africa most famous for missing the kicked would have beaten Would beaten Atlanta. Minnesota would've that year Randall. Cunningham Randy Moss Pico Glac the original soccer style kicker from hungry he and his brother. Charlie both went to Ivy League Colleges Pizza Cornell L. Charlie to Princeton both went to the NFL. He was the first soccer style. Kicker that changed football completely that Third Johnston a rude Norwegian. I kick her in the hall of fame. I pure kicker Lou groza award in the sixties for the Kansas City chiefs number two. Darren Bennett the punter from Australia. Who I knew from Amsterdam Avenue was good in a soda? He revised punting the same way that that Pico lack doc revised place kicking all of a sudden. He showed you that you could do more than just hold the ball flat and boom it up in the air. He could put backspin on place it where he wanted to do it. He was a great tackler because he's Nosey rules player so he he loved covering and tackling at number one is morten Andersen who is probably the greatest place. Kicker time apologies hadn't been a terry but you. Yeah that'll be. That'll be a battle so into the others us right now by the way nick is in Atlanta still and very successful. Last time I talk to me he had a business he was on the show with. He was on one of the light gains when he ensure sports events against the things that insurance companies don't do like acts of God That might hitting your your stadium and then you have to refund all the tickets I. It's it's a good so anyway this this was interesting because you get into that question of at what age then. Do you get extra credit to guys who came to America later caught. Who came early and I finally decided that would just kind of do it myself? Say so guys like Tom. Bahali Danielle Hunter from Jamaica. Tom Ali also from from from Jamaica. The Patriots Safety Patrick Chung Chung when he was ten those. This guy did didn't quite make the cut David. Only Mata from Nigeria a Israel Indonesia from Nigeria who played in NFL Europe and and Adam God's this and Margus Hunt Margus Hunt You guys remember from the Cincinnati Bengals on hard knocks and Adam Gaza's Australia came up through Australian junior football. which just really so anyway at the top five? We're able to English guys like Jack Crawford who doesn't get enough attention but he's had a really good career and his Donaldson Donaldson sacrilegious. And of course our buddy. Jj Back to the states at eight seven so he actually grew up. This is still true trueblue Englishman and as you tell every time he talks with each side now so that's good news for everybody number. Four Sebastian Volmer from Germany nate came through German youth program. International Program got signed by the University of Houston and had a good career with the Patriots at right and left tackles number three. Ziggy the answer. Who came from Ghana age of nineteen as a basketball player at Byu? They brought bake brought him over and switched to football what he could make the basketball team are our good buddy the my main man. OC You're right. I know number one number two to five yeah now. OC was fourteen when he went to the states so he did get to play a bit of college. Put a great defensive end and at number one is Christian Okoye. The Nigeria nightmare came over at age. Twenty one as a track guy you know like a sprinter who had two hundred and fifty pounds and immediately became a runny a running back sensation and and had a great career so he gets nudged out by crop. It'd be happy about inflating joke because it it makes working with him so much. Even though it's always it's always gonNA find this episode rough on republish it's going to blow up you'll face but we're out of time. We got what what to do here. Of course the academy. This isn't rourke but it's actually the academic dropping get rice peeled for that and now back do a bump mailbox next shortly. It's how you follow us on social media we are back Friday from ESPN. We'll see them by for now from. I'm Mike he's back in business next week of course can follow him at cosme. Sports arena stuff Mike. Carlson F- Mt Patrie on site might call some FM. If you had a patron dot com and you'll get to his stylings right then as I said at the top of the show fantastic guests coming up the now it was in the NFL Academy House launching that Jim one of the greatest players of old timer. We got some time with him on Tuesday. The Brilliant Jerry Rice Derry won. The academy launched a lot of the media coverage concentrated on. Are we going to see plays from the academy in the NFL. Sal but there's far more to the academy that yeah it's a lot more is a lice life lessons all of that. Then you know you get the education and also the character and all about putting these kids in a better position and you know I think a lot of these kids. Mike it opportunity to come to the US us go to college and all that so it's all about putting him in a better position with one of the great head coaches. You'll probably say the greatest head coach. Bill Walsh when you get get out there with the players later on. You're going to be channeling some of his key philosophies some of his key messages yeah you know I think just talking to the players letting them know that. Hey you know we're human And with the White Right coaching and all that you might have the opportunity of playing the game that you love uh you might be the dominant a rough You know if you pour your heart into it and something that you love doing. We've seen plays transition from different sports. What's an internationally on the line? Running backs tight ends very few receivers. Sorry fought you think that's something that that will change with the launch and the running the academy like this Kademi. I think only about thirty percent. You know because everyone else is playing rugby boxing other sports and stuff like that and now these kids are trying to transition into football. So it's GonNa take some time he's GonNa take some great coaching. But you know you never know you know One of these guys guys from the academy might go on and play NFL football. Let's talk about your forty united having a fantastic season of course who'd he sees the biggest threat in the NFC. It's something getting to the Super Bowl. I think Seattle Seattle was going to be hard to deal with because of Russell Wilson and you know the way. This guy can assess what's happening happening. Downfield the way he can expand plays and then he's still got great vision Downfield so I would say the Seattle Seattle seahawks no but then guy The Saints the Cowboys Philadelphia via it could be any can go on and on you just never know why but but I I think it's we in control of our own destiny right now being at nine one. You know you are in control in a bad position to be in. That's why you WANNA be Russia. WanNa be Russell. Wilson drew brees the saints. Of course out of the card our quarterback's which one would you have liked to play with the most. Come on now. You're not going to put me on the spot like that. Okay go with no breeze. Aaron Rodgers Russell Wilson I would say Tom Brady and one more Jimmy G. G.. I was waiting for that to one. Movie VISITA NCA- in terms of the the receivers out there right now which receives do you look at your really admire very open again you. Julio Jones he brings everything man he got the size the speed he and Larry Fitzgerald Hopkins There's a lot of good receivers out there. Even you know you look at the smaller guys element and and stuff like that with the Ron Pass. Option is totally different ballgame quarterback either No no no no. Yeah Yeah and I. I know Tom Brady is a little upset with the offense right now and I think element that they had. What a tag team? 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Best Of (Terrell Owens, Steve Kerr on Luka Doni, Aaron Rodgers' postseason, Mike McCarthy, Luke Kuechly's retirement)

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Best Of (Terrell Owens, Steve Kerr on Luka Doni, Aaron Rodgers' postseason, Mike McCarthy, Luke Kuechly's retirement)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jenny Taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip Shannon. Let's go cussing the all-time great receivers in the NFL. TERREL Owens wanted to make it clear that he should be at the top of the list. Teo said he was one of the best athletes to ever play the game mm-hmm and discussing the best to ever play the game. You should start with Jerry. Rice himself and Randy Moss and then go from there so Shannon. Do you agree. I agree with you one thousand percent correct and I made it abundantly clear. I love the top three guys and I believe the top three guys Jerry Rice Jerry by himself and then you know people like okay. I T oh randy I got in front of Randy and I thought ready to had an unbelievable career. I was happened to be in the league with a lot of these when these I gather in the league and so got an opportunity to see them up close and follow their careers once. I left the game but rendered the seconds receiver a grandy. Te'o is the second greatest receiver Hubert ever play. Nobody ran with more rage. Nobody played harder on the feel. The terrel Owens. How do you get past? Ask a man tells you I play hard what I want to. How do you get past? That is give I think was randy went to New England. It cleaned his image. Amy Jump a lot because remember. He laid it. Down on the raiders. He laid it down. They trade him. If I'm not mistaken. The third rounder to New England. Two thousand nine he had thirteen does now. Over twelve hundred yards or gave into the twenty two seasons. Can't tell people on what happened. They traded you. Tom Brady happened. Know what happened. No he got he got there in two thousand and seven. Oh wait when they trade. I'm sorry I thought you talking. When he got to new hello in two thousand nine? He had thirty twelve hundred yards thirteen touchdowns four games into the twenty cent ten season. They traded him back to Minnesota Seven. Four Games a month. They released him. You see this notion that t oh a lot of they have to do with skip bayless because he named the man nicknamed the man team obliterate her but randy was just reading mood. The fan that Green Bay. Everybody forgot about that. Always show with T. O.. Doing sharpies -til cheerleaders -til open his off the owned a star in Dallas. But everybody forget that redheads in some of these same issues he did. That rand did not play hard all the time and he said that some off field issues terrel never had but that got that got wiped away that could somehow that guy wife away that didn't diminish what Randy did on the field because he was unbelievable but it shouldn't diminish what Te'o on the field and I'm afraid afraid that when it came down to the voting for this talk one hundred skip. They use the they said they used the same guidelines and by the hall of fame will if that's the case what what did hall of Fame Change. When -til became available you can now factor in sidelines and the locker room? For the first time it made it abundantly clear for years and years and years you are not to consider what transpired off the field but the moment this man came up now you got a good opportunity consider that this is a joke. Keough with the Buffalo Li every was demand he beating T. A. Winter Cincinnati Chad Johnson was demand he had more catches. More yards would have got another five yard would have had another double digit Daffy the week thirteen fourteen. This joke is a job for him to all one hundred okay. If you don't like it you don't like it okay. Everybody's not everybody's Cup of tea but you can't deny the numbers you can't deny neither man production and all those coaches and all those media members and all those front office people that sat there and looked at this man career-wise demo date to say he's not one of the top ten receive with to play the game. Just totally ridiculous okay. I'll buy that premise. That terrible herald belonged in the top. Ten Ten yes in yet. They tried to honor every era. So they're going to be players that were even before me was giving the top one hundred. Okay trying to honored like I don't know if you remember crazy. Legs her do ranch remember before my time but again I've seen the grainy video and he was something for his day Don Hooks. Okay Don Hudson Don Maynard I can bear Edit Raymond Barre. That's a good one or Steve Larger who I love but but as better terrel a you hate me use the word vacuum Madonna vacuum. He's not not not in the hallway all way field anywhere. Okay I got it. What sticks in my craw is that Michael? Urban isn't in the top ten either and he to me I'm I'M GONNA get to my case in just a moment but to me. I can make a case that he was even more valuable than Jerry. Rice was and how I feel about Michael Irvin as the driving force of teams. That should have won five straight super bowls but did win three out of four right but the point is Michael. Irvin is suffering for the same reason and then some that the terrorists suffering on behavior misbehavior. Because Michael was often out of control off the football theater. I know all about that right. Michael Michael did get in the hall of fame despite all of the above. So when I'm trying to evaluate this I don't care about team obliteration anymore. I'm just talking. About how great were or you. This and then sticks in my craw even deeper is your contention that he was better than Randy Moss. I give you this. There were times randy just said Ed. I'm out but when Randy said I'm in he was way more in than terrel ever thought about being because he is on a whole `nother plane above terrel. You're alone I'm a to the Knox and now we're just doing pure football. This is not team. Obliteration this is not tearing apart a locker room. Whatever I don't care about that I care about WPRO? Duck shunt and if you look at it terrel led the League and drops once and he was top four seven times and I covered him in San Francisco. Go entrust me on this. He dropped a lot of big passes. The classic game was the big showdown with the Rams in two thousand one as the rams were on on their way to the super bowl that where they were beaten by bell check and braiding not put it in the order that you'd like Belichick and Brady the rams and the Super Bowl but they had a big showdown at candlestick stick. Part and terrel dropped four passes that day that were just crucial. Big Game Changing passes that he dropped and look it up because I was there in the locker room. He sat staring into his locker for forty five straight minutes and would not talk to the media which was fine with me but the point was he was devastated by that and when the pressure was on terrel could be mentally weak he could come apart. He could crumble psychologically under the biggest game pressure. And I'll never forget that one game which I attended and covered covered. It was in Jimmy's hometown of Minneapolis. And it was September. Twenty eighth of two thousand three and it was billed as terrel owens versus Randy Moss. So even though they weren't GonNa be on the field or not but it was. It was our study. These are the two zero one two two one. One Who's going to take charge randy. Moss just took the day over in. It was Specht I was left with jaw. Dropped at the into that right so he got thrown tin balls by Gus fraud. WHO's not all famer? Ten in balls caught eight for one hundred and seventy two and three touchdowns Jeff Garcia with a little help from Tim. Rotate through twelve balls. TERREL Owens caught five for fifty five and no touchdowns touchdowns Carol Owens wound up at the end of the game ranting and raving marching up and down in front of the coordinator Greg Knapp who was sitting weirdly on the bench right. Okay I remember. It's like classic footage of Taros just out of his mind back and four hastening and pacing and pacing then. He mounted soapbox literally in the Post Game Locker Room and Campaign for Jeff Garcia. WHO had made three straight pro bowls to be replaced by the backup Tim and it was ugly? And it just showed me when it's time to rise and really Sean. This Guy Randy Moss can rise in China as he did all through two thousand seven hundred. Eighty a tweet. This was before guys that a big play receivers that looked to get their hands on the ball and take off. They drop passes. If you look at Travis Kelsey look dropout rate compared to other tidiness. Because he's always looking to get the big play okay so he's going to give you a lot of jobs but he's always looking to get the big play. Julio is high up there will drop. Because he's looking to get big plays out of the prodigious. Don't remember Randy dropping a lot of key passes. I just don't know when you threw it in his vicinity. He's just GONNA. I'll look at it easily. It's always been like this no matter. What look at quarterback Tom Brady? And Peyton. Manning was never gonNA be able to say on the field at the same time but always brady versus manning is anytime you get two great players even if they played opposite position. That's what you'll get. Reggie Reggie and the eagles faced the giants Reggie versus. What need the woman's go block the other guy but you just wanted to see who's going to dominate the game? Correct a lot of that when the receiver skip it comes down to okay the court. Yeah Randy had the better day and I it can be frustrating. I remember when I was playing. Tidy the being colds or Tony Gonzalez. Who was in my division? I go to Romo. You let that guy showed me up Rome announced railroads. Don't you let that man show Yup. I'm not on the field but I'm looking to do my thing and Teo is four straight like man y'all letting guy showed me up. y'All can't stop him WTMA something and here I am I. Here's crumbling. They W me which I won't double him because what skill look t os never gonNa be in anybody's cup of tea. Yeah he's a motor. There's a thing that happened to any in his life that he hasn't gotten past that may have production since I should I I give you that. There's no way I'm with you. He belongs on this list. Yes which brings me to Michael Irvin you have no. I covered him all those years. He was the playmaker nickname for a reason. And if I just compare his numbers his career years ninety one ninety eight eight versus Jerry. Rice's like this is what I'm big on receptions. For first downs Michael had five thirty one to juries four sixty seven head to ahead over those years just fourth quarter receiving yards a thousand thirty for Michael Irvin eight sixty eight for Jerry Rice. Just he was. He was choice toys. Guy Like when in doubt eight through eighty eight. That's just what it just kept happening and remember. This was a run. Based Emmett Smith driven offense. They ran the ball. So you can't do Michael's big picture yards vs Jerry's because he played in the West Coast and if they skip if you look at Everywhere T. O.. UINN even if they have a number Wa- receiver there. He took it over. Remember they let Jerry go because Teo production same came so great. They couldn't keep him. He went to Buffalo Lee Evans was the number one. I the way I'll never forget another game I covered at the Chicago Bears Jerry Rice Day candlestick park and because the bears went in with the game plan. We're going to triple team him US up. And what Tarot Kyoko the record the time Brandon Marshall Mile Brandon. Marshall have broken at twenty one against India okay but also Tara was blessed. He can't sort of appreciate this this but think about where he got to play he got to play in Mary. You Choose West Coast offense with Jeff Garcia. Made three pro Steve Young. Okay Star Steve. Young me neither listen. You won't talk about prolific. Look at what Jeff Garcia Tara. Tara was half the bar like the navy went to Andy Reid. Boy I in Philly skill Andy Reid. You see what he's doing with moms right and then he got to go to Tony Romo right in the heart of his prime when they are they. Were pass crazy crazy. And they're all making pro bowls. Donovan made six pro bowls. Tony made four. Jeff made three. He's getting a play with big time for the backs and when they left when Teo level how many they go to lift. Well I don't know the oke didn't matter where he win pro both followed. You notice that Jedi here l.. He's such a team. Obliterated he left coordinators back in the game win. The ones who is okay. Dallas cowboys says he'll do well. Then how do you explain that the Philadelphia Eagles won two playoff games without him and then they got after the Super Bowl and played the Patriot league play on the field. He forces himself backing up on the knicks and he catches nine balls for fifty yards. You got above book and it was like the quietest but it was no big catches belching to said let him old. They can't run but yes he can't run. Go do that now. Here's the thing when players don't play you gotta get there and played now. Not only did he play with a broken leg because he had gotten out there with a broken leg broken ankle. Schools Ankle Jake Nan. Normally when a guy gets out there nobody cared that you had surgery and you got a broken ankle and what you had to do out eighty-one and the always on the back. And he would give it to him in Jacksonville. Giving it to mom was there and I don't remember give now book uh-huh Twenty Two with thankful and finally Donovan. Got Her back in the game with a home. Run to the other little receiver. Remember that Ray Jones Greg somebody 'cause he had no go. I think the guy ended up going going to MINNESOTA. Yup Look you go but like number one veterans. Don't Jerry Mary. The debate comes in who to Te'o Aranda okay. We could debate. That I believe is Teo for me. MY MONEY IS T O. I'm not GONNA so Man I'm not going to speak to you say random malls. It's better than Te'o because randy was phenomenal. I mean the the greatest deep ever played the big bitcoin. Now you you got most leaping over. Everybody catching the ball. We've never seen anybody. What makes you upset? Just imagine if he played hard all the time I agree root out but when he was right he was writer than terrible. Now every memory I have as a kid. I'm a little by watching randy. Moss given some of close ups and downs still. I mean who was for the Vikings. I mean that's that's my memory of getting ahead of the Warriors Mavericks Game Last night. Steve Kerr had high praise. For Luca. Donncha Kerr referred to Luca as a quote cornerstone of the NBA. And said that Lucas ability to see the floor reminds Tim of the Great Larry. Bird Kerr also compared his setback. James Harden so shannon our lease valid comparison. If I'm not mistaken the guy sitting across from skip maybe it was about a month ago about six weeks ago actually. Is there some very similar to you. Actually that's why I wonder the topic today. You of you probably even more upset. Got That wrong. I'm not saying. He's Larry Bird because I don't think people Larry Bird's my favorite player. He has muscles and my brother. I can't get it through my head how can you do. This is your favorite favorite player. I had t shirts bird. Pollsters had to want him sitting in the bird's nest. Shoes Blair birth so I know twenty four. You're tuned in six. That's his career average skit when you look at him. And what you got to understand about Luca because Lucas scored a ball Larry. He does a rebel but he can play. They make lab was really the first the big big forward that they ran the obvious through most of the time they ran off to the point guard. Dj was on the team to head tiny art about one year. But Larry Bird his six assists. Tell you that he could facilitate and cancer. Screening the basketball room luke ability to score. He's so skilled. The entire offense runs through him. But what people don't realize Larry didn't get to the embattled twenty two Lucas Twenty Lucas twenty years old right now he got. NBA Nine thousand nine hundred. So and he's averaging he'd get to play professional basketball in Europe at a high level ahead do play with grown man fifty sixty years Selena but Luca right now. They're twenty nine twenty nine ten and nine basically let that sink and he's thirty skippy. Thirty P. R. He's number one a usage and you seek skip draymond. Green is a very good defender. Draymond green has been different player of the year and he was told with Draymond had him on the screen Lucas He. He's legit skip. I told you he's the real deal and he's the closest thing because we had never seen anything like bird we'd never seen a guy that could share with Gorlic. Larry could assist the ball but he was guard. We never seen anything like lab because we never seen about. That could do what he can do. The last guy to win three straight. MVP there have been a handful of three straight MVP's Russell Chamberlain and bird was the last one and bird was doing this when they when magic within the League when Jordan within the League. Join within the League Oleg The road he did ask you but I think that they just horace guilt. Because we've never seen a guy since Larry White Guy because these compare white guy why got blackout beggar. We're not the white guy. He he Jordan it never say. Never say even even Lebron Lebron has a lot of bird any but we compare who magic. I'll by that so but skipper me Luca and I think Steve Cursing step back. James Harden perfect. I've never seen anything like this back. Woody but James Hart is on another level but he added that to his game in the middle of the handle. The ball here the billy the precipitate end to score. Yes he's the closest thing the Byrd. He's a close putting the burden that we've seen since Larry Bird this is blasphemy this Harrison. This is please God. Don't strike us with lightning tall because I'm afraid I get struck. I'm looking up right now because I'm waiting for lightning to come through don't jinx. This is Larry Bird. We're talking about marriage. Ober Larry Joe Bird. It's like is this fair. Foul will in this case. It's foul as in F. O.. Oh wwl as in foul way. It nauseates me to even think we're talking about because I've been watching this kid and I give the only point I give you is. He's twenty years of age but every time I turn on my TV. He's this listen he's that he's special. I keep hearing. How specially you've measures? No He's not special. I'm sorry I'm not seeing it. I'm not seeing superstar superstar from Luca. Danni not yet and again. I'm watching him a lot. And I'm watching these numbers a lot and every fourth quarter I watch him in. He comes apart either physically or mentally because in the fourth quarter of the book on Luca already is Roe v just beat him among the Lakers have been just beat the snot out and it's foul in it's F O U l style but it's just the way of the still off off this jungle is going to be how it's going to be you're going to get beat up until you fight back in show them. It doesn't bother me a bit right Larry Bird was the baddest. What if you WANNA put it? In the White Guy. Category put it in there but he was the baddest white guy who ever walked on a basketball he was he. It was a cold-blooded killer. The he was as much a cold blooded assassin as anyone this side of. MJ because he scared cared people he talked a lot of you know what and he backed it up. A Lotta people believe he was the greatest trash talk every did it kind of under his breath. A little forbid he'd lean over and tell you. What did Jay followed him? Kim Your home walkup Bob Dudley you talking to me live okay okay. So let's put this in perspective right now. Lucas fourth in this league in scoring. That's pretty great. He's third NPR player efficiency rating. That's pretty great. He's third and assist. Bats really good when you add all that up. He's tied for forty seventh in fourth quarter shot attempts. He's tied for thirty eight in fourth quarter points scored that that's not very good because come fourth quarter when it's time to go. Larry Bird He. He can't go Larry that tells me what they one of two things. Maybe he maybe he shying away but I believe they're taking the ball out of his hands. They say you know what we know what you can do. Luca Okay POW POW okay hardaway junior junior okay other guys. We're GONNA make courage we're GONNA make these other guys beat the skill. I'm not Luca. Beat me okay. But I've seen games. Where Lebron you can try to take it out and saying? Did you kiss standard out of his hands. He's too big and too strong and too physical and he'll just say well Lucas give Lucan have to get a little offer. He's GonNa have to get a little stronger winning but wait till he gets them are actually looks like he's not that great a shape to me so he i'll tell you gotta you gotTa gotTa definition. Yeah I'm not sure I gotta say this before I go deeper in the stats. Here's one one thing you cannot do in this league. And so far. He's getting away with it because he's the next he's the next hot guy the kid but against my spurs it was back on December twenty. Sixth fix he blows off the pig porzingas pick Derek. WHYTE and so? He's got just a free run to the basket. And Seth Curry Non Steph Curry. It goes sweet behind the back bounce pass to him and he goes up if we could see it right now as he goes up to dunk. He's laughing he started laughing and while he got the ball because he thought it was such a great pass and he's laughing and he laughed all the way down the court. Larry Bird never laughed before he made a shot auto at the rim. A like a like a bunny shot. He didn't laugh because you don't laugh because somebody's going to get even with you for laughing all the time. Then you you go into the three point shootout competition it as which one are you you know what finish a British what exactly. I'm surprised. Yeah friend's DOC enterprise. He didn't get fired olds today. He would not get away with that. I would hope not only did he shoot you remember. He shot the last three point ball in like this before. It switched to knit okay. But that's a three point shootout. And he was already Larry Bird Larry Berg right well. He Bird Company. I mean He. He won rookie of the year with thirty three both over magic. Who got three? Who led the team to the schedule? I'm not saying he's right now. Luca Ah yes just step back. He's shooting thirty two percent from the three point line. That's one hundred thirty eight of the one hundred forty eight qualified three point shooter at that age. That's not good and he misses a lot in the fourth quarter. When I think the Games on the line like you gotTa make that right? You know. It's wide open. He can create space because he's six seven free throws he's making seventy eight percent which is better than than Lebron but that ranks seventieth of one hundred and fourteen qualified. Free throw shoot right Larry. Bird led the League in free-throw shooting four times and in his career five times he was over ninety percent. You don't give me Larry Bird and look. I know Steve Curry got full of himself because he got to coach the greatest teams. We've ever seen that team right. Now is nine and thirty three and on some nights I think Steve Kerr gets a little full of himself and tries to remind mind everybody he used to be the sage the Oracle. We all went to give us the historical perspective. Because you played with Michael Jordan and now he's still trying to give us historical perspective for the nine nine and thirty three Golden State Warriors and I think he's laying it. On a little thick. He played with two. Would you have Tim Duncan. I mean he played with Yoga. I I got you know he was. He did see Larry now you look. I'm not saying the kid is Larry. Because Larry was like I say May he bought a lot. Oughta people look that That They Eastern Conference Finals Against Dominique when he dominated going back and forth that was one of the great art. It was just all time all army special but to be twenty years old and to be able to do what he's doing I mean they're they're not very many kids that they turned the keys over to you this early. It's okay it's yours go do think as well. That's what they did with this one or the truth. I'm actually trying to take a little pressure off in because he doesn't need this on his shoulder. Comparison impairs really when you have that kind of pressure too. I mean that's a big name. Legend nicknamed live up to either way. You're not sold yet not see if we can get there and get there get this. Aaron Rodgers has thrown nearly four and a half touchdowns for every interception in his career which is the best all time by a wide margin and he's only thrown six picks in the last chew seasons. Mind what is this. Love Way will wait is lag of mistakes. Something that Amazes League's all-time leader in interceptions and former packers great bat that Brett Farve while doing a joint interview with Rogers far told Rogers quote how little you turn the ball over to me is just baffling baffling polling more that Brett. Farve talk to Aaron Rodgers in the first four years probably this new friendship then. Yeah Yeah that is true. That dynamic was always really interesting We are happy to have Fox sports contributor Rob Parker with us this morning they enjoy having around Rob Scoop here. Rob Thank you bring bring energy energy to this table. What do you expect from Roger Sunday? I expect Aaron Rodgers continued. Doing what he's done all year which is just enough to get his team to a victory. That sounds like a gay man. No it's not a game manager. Things have changed a little bit and you know coming into this play offs. I said Chris saw on. I had this big argument on the radio. I said he had the least pressure of the quarterbacks only from the standpoint that normally and Shannon you know this when he goes into the playoffs else in years gone by he knows he got to put up thirty five almost forty points to win career. I was not going to be the case this year. This is by foreign his time that I've seen seen them the most balanced team Aaron Jones with the running back who could also score in the red zone. You Got Dismiss Right. The defensive guys that they brought in those guys have been nothing spectacular. And they've made they've had a lot of takeaways. They have a good if not the greatest defense but a good defense in Aaron Rodgers for four of his seven playoff losses. The defense gave up forty four forty five fifty fifty one thirty seven these distress. He used to be under that he needed to be able to score these points this year. which was the most impressive thing? The three games where he did not touch down the packers were three no prior to this year. They were four and ten in games. where he didn't throw a touchdown? Now this is what I'm saying. Is that not that. He has to be a game manager but he doesn't have to go out and throw for four hundred yards and score forty points. It's not that kind of team and what he did last week with the nine thirteen. On third downs Chattanooga saw beautiful throws on the money skip. You could say the one outta bowed in whatever given up on plays and you know what they didn't shy away from it and know situations where they really needed to third-down gave the ball Aaron and he got it done my expect. Expect him to get to the Super Bowl. I picked them more really really do and I think this'll be. This'll be that situation. where I think the forty niners are ahead of schedule and already Aaron Rodgers will wind up getting it don and Garoppolo will not? That's a bold statement. I expect him to play well. He was great last week when you had to be when he needed to be and I knew he could like you said the team has kind of changed now. They can run the ball. They're not a great running team when the game. They're all national televised. Aaron Jones headmaster days. He had moss today at Kansas City. He had a MAS. Today at the cowboys had these monster games when the eyes are watching so everybody assumed well. He's Derrick Henry. No they're not. They don't run the ball. They didn't run the ball like the Ravens. They didn't run the ball. Like the forty niners or Tennessee. Titans Titans can skip and this notion all he took a man. I had a hit today to go home and take aspirin every show. He's throwing the ball away. No He's regarded look drew brees that turnovers in a playoff where he goes home. Lamar Jackson had three turnovers get. Where'd he go Tom? Tom Brady had a turnover skipped. where did he go kirk cousins? When you turn the ball over you go home now? Aaron Rodgers was the only guy that brutal ball away you because he didn't want he didn't want to completion for Tom. Brady threw the ball away. Nobody Open era. Throw the ball the way. Oh he'll what it though so he can get the big playful. Wait a minute. You just started the truth though. I hope you finally got a ride. Did you know last year in throwaways. Aaron Rodgers was one but did you know who the third guy third thought about the way. We'll Tom Brady go. Just above the two hundred nineteenth leading to throw away this year. UH-HUH WASH my hands win and everybody keeps saying this really hard to beat the team twice. No is not not if you'd better team. Aaron Rodgers is better quarterback than Jimmy Garoppolo. But I believe the forty niners have the better team. My brother beat when we growing up. I believe me a thousand times in backyard games. You know why he was just better downscale guys of just how many times you play up. I believe the forty niners happy. Better offense they better defense better special team and they're better coats than the Green Bay packers. It wasn't at John Elway wasn't any good. He wasn't better than the teams playing those Super Bowl. Oh he wasn't as good as the forty nine fifteen when good of the giants or Washington. That's why they lost in when they believe the forty niners will win on Sunday for better team. Don't always win. No no no no no but Blaga is going to be key. Now he only played Lennon snapped in the first time they played them skill and that front door was relentless witness. They better give Aaron Rodgers some time because if they don't give me the time they got no chance because I don't believe they could run the ball and win this game so for the first time in a long time I I was impressed with Rob Parker's opening answer what he went right out to the very end of the limit he said. Aaron Rodgers is going to go win this game and Shannon Sharpe well knows these games at this level. They often come down to which quarterback plows laugh because John Elway kept getting matched up even though super bowls with some really good quarterback he had to play against Joe Montana and there was Phil Simms. One Game I can't remember all Doug Williams birth got four Nasdaq jacket. QUARTER QUARTER PLAYOFF game. Thank you for doing that but that means that I do oh you at dinner. We got another dinner on this. I got the forty nine. And you're right in the end. It should be Aaron Rodgers versus Jimmy. Well he can win that matchup right and I realize there are a whole lot of other players who contribute but right now you make a strong kick us because Devante Adam suddenly just caught fire. I don't know if there's anybody better right now at catching the football getting open and catching the football than Devante Lante and they have reestablished their wavelength their report remember. He missed a few games. You and they're back on the same page and Dan you're right. That was a big third down. Throw 'cause they got matched. They got devante in the slot. Mashed up against a five nine rookie. What are you doing i? I don't know what it was was on the West Seattle in single coverage and Aaron just dropped on top viewed whom yeah and that was basically game over on that one then he had hit Jimmy Graham for one more and why they gave him fifteen yards of cushion. I don't know to me this whole year has been meant to be for the Green Bay. Packers I don't know how they did it but they went thirteen thirteen and three hundred old. That drives Aaron crazy because he says yeah we. Just how do we do. We sort of smoke and mirrors. Well they did it and now they won their home game and they get to go to San Francisco and it should be a game where Aaron Rodgers should be the guy. This is why I was impressed with Aaron Rodgers. This past Sunday all here long. He has struggled to throw the ball down the field. He just doesn't throw it down the field anymore. I'm about to get to your throwaway issue in just a moment. But on Sunday he threw the ball down on the field on throws off ten yards or more you went six for six for one hundred and forty five yards. That will work that work at San Francisco that that could win. The game at San Francisco says go because during the year. He's not been very good. If we do. Pro Football Focus. I know they go third level but they do what's called adjusted. Completion percentage on deeper passes asses is twenty plus yards Aaron ranked twenty seventh in the League behind Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dalton. He just wasn't very good throwing it deep yoga right behind those same Guy Eh. Completion percentage to Dr Operating. Thanks bring it up. Tom Brady because why did Tom Brady. Throw the ball away number one the body. Why No? Because he wasn't protected. Aaron Rodgers has got top five protection. But here's the difference. Between the throwaways. There are two breeds of throwaways throwaways two different brands of throwaways. There's the Tom Brady kind where he just doesn't have time. And at the last second he says I'm not going to take an eight yard sack and I'll just throw it in the ground over over here at sort of quasi throw it to my to James and it's a throw away that adds up but Aaron Rodgers will stand back there and just shut lots of time and he'll looking Nisa. What do I throw it over there? It's kind of a tight window and it might not be. How does he does he does he worry about getting picked dolphins the stat oughta leave the Lebron high? NFL doesn't want his stats to look bad. So he says I'm going you know what's his touchdowns interceptions four and a half now. Not even close Tom Brady. What's the total odle? Oh on interception is career. No yeah this year. I think he's like three. Yeah he liked what his twenties. Okay whatever I think. It was tipped at the goal line and tapped that was which is he realized that lied. Interceptions it was tipped because he throws it in a double coverage because Philly was lewd covering a wide open receiver in the quarter zoom. Just throwing you could as as you question did. Tom Brady have great protection last year and he was thirty to throw away. Now you tell me not the reason why he told them all the way this this year so much. He's doing Jacoby Miles who was undrafted. Draft free agent. He wasn't a little guy was a gun. Okay Ryan diary aged but guess who did you know he was undrafted. Air Roger Thornhill on him. What about Lazard Eh? Rogers during the he'll give me Juno. Geronimo Allison. Do running the frigid. That's receiving record high on the. Did Tom Brady Devante. Atoms element who was super bowl. MVP Six months ago Super Super Bowl. Mvp what else GonNa WanNa touch them. Jillian elmwood the busted shoulder and a bad knee and cracked real coty shouldered above the jumbles. Jose alcohol as well. He should have someone before he played the game. Definitely game against the forty niners. I really look at that game. I don't think that they came out and played at at all like the packers just worn in. Kish weren't there for me to look at that and say that they can't beat them shift just that game. I don't look at it and go. Oh they didn't play football so much guilt because it's one game. This is not a series. I don't own a given Sunday. Anybody can be. I don't believe I don't believe Tennessee. Z. Can Be Baltimore. Three out of five no. They can't but they could be due out three. But here's the thing goes on a given Sunday a ball bounce here there turnover but Aaron Rodgers knows this. You turn the ball playoff you. Pay A premium price. You Pay Double Info. You look at the guys that are going home. What all of them do? They turned the ball away from drew. Breeze to Lamar Jackson two cousins to a Tom Brady. And you turn it over to the playoff. You're going home and their Rogers says I ain't going home the quarterback you've been raving about all this segment finished eighteenth in. QBR This year in twenty first in the NFL and completion percentage those it's about winning and it raw raw raw asking who's nineteen hundred nineteen cousins now who twenty seventeen completion percentage twenty seven. Skip helped me out. I don't know I don't know who you're talking. He he don't. They went to the playoffs and lost at home. Do we have a dinner on Sunday. Absolutely I got I got Jimmy. I I can't believe I'll read it three dinners and they won't go into the AFC championship game and bet. That was the big one and bet that before the season started that they wouldn't wouldn't make it to the AFC championship. I got five either five cases the COBWEBS be eight and eight thirty eight case. Oh that's okay we'll get it back so there's a lot of fascinating can't wait. I'll have to dinners after this Sunday. Party Rob Thank you on Tori. Aaron Rodgers admitted he sought new cowboys head. Coach Mike McCarthy would go somewhere where he had more general general manager input according to Stephen Jones though McCarthy might even have more say than he did with the Packers Stevenson McCarthy told him quote looks like I'm going to have configure voice and I had in Green Bay in terms of how we go about building consensus. Oh Shannon nearby this no is great at the time timescale. But you and I both know it won't last and when Jerry says we he means Stephen Jared Junior Charlotte and himself the family sister sledge allege that it says we're family that's the way he's talking about skip bayless that's why Jerry on his car owner chairman VP. Euromed got all those titles and Jerry just a couple of weeks ago. Skip if you pay all the bills you should have. Decision Cup did give I. Don't get with Jerry getting so upset about this. He's like I got labeled this. I got pig with this. It is true Jerry you everything you have said the buck stops with you. You say you consult with some people but the buck stops with me so the final decision is yours. Just that people say I don't get upset when people say I'm allowed give out earn that. I'm encouraged them to believe that you went on no. I'm not like that. I'll be myself got candles. Burning a meditating before Steve get there before we get ready to pay but the perception is but Jerry you earn this. You don't want to say even though people thought Jimi head to say it was me co parts. They thought bill had to say but it was me. You did this Jerry. I don't know why he doesn't want to own it. Now it's okay you know y because it's been unsuccessful. They limit your questions in the last twenty. Five years of Jerry would have one two or three super bowls and people say Jerry. It's it's not a we. Share makes the decision you think he owned a we thing or anything. 'cause remember that's what got Jimmy batted their true. I read articles give. There are some things that article. I didn't even know you. Bet some kind of way to getting old assign and when he wouldn't tell you got all upset with digital feels that would imagine not pay. He was in his field within his fields. Back in the nineties. Way Back So no we is a jerry and it's the way it's being is the way it's always going to be but it sounds good. I can't say on on the honeymoon is going to be going to be a certain type of way. I gotTa make you think it's going to be a certain way or you go now. You know we might even make it back from the honeymoon. Yeah Ooh you should read the book I wrote about Jimmy Versus Jerry. You might be like. Wow that happened for the record you got. Don't have time okay. Happen too long ago so I agree with your premise. The buck stops stops on that man. Gerald Wayne Jones Junior's desk but occasionally I believe he has passed that buck before and I thought taught archer on ESPN PIN dot com. wrote a good piece and his premise. Is that no matter what you think. Outsiders think the reality. How how the cowboys have operated for years? Years has been hard for outsiders to believe because he points out that nine hundred ninety eight he had hired Chan Gailey to be as new coach. Post Barry Switzer and for whatever reason Chan Gailey did not want Randy Moss. A lot of people did not want Randy. Chan is very devout. You know yes. I do love position coach when he made his feelings. Very clear about that. Jerry said okay. We will not draft Randy Moss. So he passed the buck on that one two thousand and three parcels come in and he wanted to move on from Emmett Smith according to Todd Archer and I've heard these stories and so Jerry said okay. He's the all time leading rusher. Let's move on go in a new direction. Because you're the new coach and you need to say they will Larry Allen. Okay there you go. And then at one point early on Jason Garrett twenty eleven he said we got to build a rebuild an offensive line. Please take an offensive Lineman I and they took Tyron Smith in the rest is pro bowl well history right. So that was Jason Garrett's idea then Jerry overruled and took terrel owens. When Bill parcells didn't want him and he overruled and took Greg Hardy when nobody nobody wanted him especially meat and yet he that's when he big-footed them and said Nope? I'm going to do this by giving. His daughter wanted to pass on that. I hope she did not. I'm pretty sure she did. Not so here comes Mike McCarthy and the point is that I don't believe Jerry Jones ever liked bill parcells ourselves or vice versa. I don't think they ever really got along socially but it was just a a point where Jerry was desperate. And he's a big guy in about as made made a man is you're gonNa find I'm going to hire him and I'm going to sort of back off and let him go until I decide boy for marquee value box office taught to yoga. It'd be great for us right. He's born to be a Dallas Cowboy so the point is from that press conference. I walked watched one week ago today. Jerry hit it off with Mike McCarthy. They are going to drink a lot of beer together. And I'm not sure the NACHOS will be all that great for Mike. Mike McCarthy who might Oughta rear from was a big thing big things. Yup I agree. So but the point is is they clicked. They've been losing can click them real. You know hi Jerry is okay everybody go click Jerry now not not like that. Not Not bar. Sales netscape asking. You know parcells was always setting wave. He believed he should be do things a certain way but coach Marcello perfectly fine up in Saratoga before he got replaces their token now but when they met on that tarmac in in Jersey Code. That was cool. I believe jared needed coach parcells more than coach parcells ourselves needed him. Because at that point times losing losing losing the Dallas Cowboys. We gotta get a big name okay. He was the biggest name of bailable. But here's Mike McCarthy's with these point when he says it's a we thing at least it's a little tiny bit of we because McCarthy in Green Bay Heads Zero Zero Week and Ted Thompson and said it's my way or highway for all of these guys including you migrate. You don't like it right and I am not going to plunge in free agents. What will jerry do if the the opportunity yeah plunged like nobody? Plunge that's why the first guy that goes give before Mike McCarthy was tear Thompson because Mike Murphy Mark Murphy visit he did. He did not development so guys to go first yeah. So what is Stephen Jones. Say the other day he said. I don't want to put words in Mike's Mouth. But he said something like looks like I'm going to have a bigger voice than I did in Green Bay in terms of how we go about building our our roster right he will. He's going to have a much because he had no voice. So we're GONNA get better nothing okay. So so when he says it's going to be we decisions. I think a tiny did we or maybe a quarter of we or whatever. I think you'll have a little bit of the week. Okay let's give you know when I was going to school Janney. I knew all the kid grade. You're hanging out with that guy so sometimes the teacher would call me because they want to go around. We want everybody to participate whether they don't know call low Mykola because I know 'cause I'm ready to move on so you know I raised my skip and then when it when called on me. Guess what I do. I just blurt out anyway admitting considering no but you couldn't go to Georgia because you didn't have the great looking a little. It's a great I have. I can remember things as you got. Louis how I was so good. I got tied to be doing homework. Our busy busy explains why. You're so unprepared. The show everybody got school and I was like you know like you know what's going to class because guess what girls went to class all the guys that came. We lot of guys that came with me. Then they wanna go to clan. We'll make sense who'd in front of the class briefcase would call a shirt star. Jean Mr Shah sitting next to Jenny in the front row gal the middle. I don't need to. It'd be an fries. You'll be told my girlfriend homework. Not We talk about it Jay. I was in the library and the car is doing the work Alex ahead. We seem to know the answers. Now do you believe you are very much a more prepared now than I was is being because I didn't take school serious because I like I'm I'm going to fail and then you know I don't need to know multiple occasions. And here's the nobody's GonNa ask me when what. What Day was Abraham Lincoln assassin? Nobody's GonNa ask me that But they're gonNA ask me how to get to get to the end zone. We'll be able to do there and pick up information probation. Wait impressive I wasn't born with your I Q or your mental capacity over at work. I just outworked. Are you in the front row from guy. Tried to ask all the homework around. You see what happened out of being Ken Jennings on you every time they ask you a question declares. Gotcha really you know I. I don't forget games on. That would be would they we we do you really meditate before the show we need this. Now you realize you just spoiler alerted me. Oh you you just ruined my week. You just blew my whole week we have been scrupulous in not like just tune it out. We can't watch till Friday. We actually flu. I work on weeknights. I actually do prep for the show on weeknights. What do I can't watch until Friday? And then we watch them all all of it so now you gave it away. Okay with Dave one and you just ruined. I thought everybody who renew apologize. The first I three last Friday night right. Why do you watch why you want to have been bought like that? Because I I watched gays gotTa Watch all the Games who work wasn't oh last night. What happened before Qui- came on what you'd be? Okay I'll do just shifted over here Shannon muddle through in. Just say well maybe for you. Okay we're GonNa Panthers Linebacker Luke. Keithly announced his retirement at the age of twenty eight yesterday. Keithly was the two thousand thirteen defensive player of the year and was an all pro and five of his eight seasons. He made the announcement and an emotional video. Posted to the team's website. Take a listen. There's only one way to play this game since I was a little kid is is the play fast and play physical and play strong wrong and at this point. I don't know if I'm able to do that anymore. And that's the part that is the most difficult is I still WANNA play. But I don't think it's the right decision so choked up watching that again and Shannon your reaction to kick links retirement sad you can tell he said I want to play but I don't think it's a good idea. Let's get missed time because of head. Injuries concussions. Yep and what we're starting to see scale guys are making more money now earlier and they're being smarter we see. Calvin Johnson retired. We see GRONK retired early age. Patrick Willis Andrew Luck guys. Now they make money to get out because skipper fourth guide. They make the money like that and you had to play maybe against your better judgment but leuke cly giving this dude is for real he run. He was defensive rookie of the year the next year. He's defensive offensive player of the year. L. Seventh-grade pro bowl is not like he dropped off a cliff. He was second team. All pro behind Bobby Wagner he and Bobby Wagner are the preeminent middle linebackers in all the NFL. It says you know what guys I wanNA play but guys are getting smarter about this. We saw just a first round of the wild card round. We cars wins head. Injury is no. I'm just GONNA I'M GONNA lie about it. Gather getting smart because they see some of the things that happened to players that came before them and they're being smarter about them Kudos to him it takes. It takes a lot to get the gas. Twenty eight out of the extremely high level is as you know what I'm not going to be twenty eight. Always what happened. What I'm thirty eight? Yeah what happened what. I'm forty forty eight Kudos to him. I'm happy happy for him. He had a heck of a career. Likewise I'm not happy for us because we're not going to get to watch them any right but we're all going to have to accept the fact. The shelf life is shrinking. Because they're smarter. The money's better. He's made sixty four million dollars in ongoing to assume assume. I don't know this but that he's probably handled it pretty well and he's probably in pretty good shape to go forward. Yes but mentally psychologically logically he has to deal with this prospect of big issue had issues. I saw Luke Keithly at a super bowl party when we were in Houston and twenty sixteen and I was shocked how small he looked in person is not a huge main in street. Clothes it just the average guy you look like a real average guy and I thought that guy wreaks havoc like that yes well. He's got to use his. This had literally and figuratively. Because nobody played harder nobody studied harder and he could do it on both sides he could blast unique. Could also also pick you up and get the pick six he put on Tony Romo at the end of the half of a Thanksgiving game. They were on the way to the Super Bowl. Remember twenty any fifty still both. Take that guy he you could cover like he was at DB run. He was great he was great and cover okay so he had greatness written all over him except he had to use his head to tackle be He. He led the League twice intact. As is this is coming to the league. He's led the League. He has more than anybody any leak. So I have watched quarterbacks ax be way ahead of this curve on I gotta get out while the getting is good. I saw my favorite all time cowboy. Roger Staubach didn't start till he's twenty eight because he did Vietnam rich. HBO and Thirty Eight only ten years in his doctor told him. If you keep doing this you're going to pay for the long haul with your your mind. It's GonNa go yup and he just stopped cold and we were all shocked but his doctor said No. And then I saw Steve Young's doctors say no and I saw Troy Aikman's doctors say you. You can't keep doing this and I have no idea how Tom Brady has lasted this long. Given the potential head injuries because Gazelle has made reference. Right right. Choose on one of the morning shows. You're so ago and she said he's had some head injury right but they don't ever get on the injury report and he doesn't ever talk about. That's a looming possibility. I've gotTA DEAL WITH MY Potential Mind Ri- Ford but he's the only one who's sort of shattered the mole considered that the NFL career careers about three years. Skip and Tom Brady has lasted twenty years and for the poor bars we know. Yeah but not to not concussion like Steve Young Steve Young till his last last year. I think I'm Neil's Williams hit him on Monday night. Yeah he's sleeping on the field. I think Lavar Arrington was the last one. Hit Troy Aikman and Cowboys Stadium scale in. Put Him out he did. And you're right. Gather making more money now. And they're getting smarter skip. I think his name with Kevin Borland the gap or the forty niners. He had a tremendous rookie season and he just walked away the note. Okay and do it anymore. All right so the truth is twenty eight Leuke Claes actually up there in years. Yes he's been doing this for a quote unquote by this shelf. Life along time is look at the game is not the game is the game. The GALS is bigger than Gaza faster in the collisions or greater. And I'm not surprised because like you said Calvin Johnson makes one hundred fifteen million. It's easy easy to walk away. When guy that I mean you bought a franchise I made? Jerry bought the franchise of the cowboys. Four hundred forty million. Mr Bollenbach bought the broncos Bronco for sixty five million. Yeah look equally as sixty four million own about a franchise for God forgives. It's not worth it is not. It's not worth it. Skip and I look so when you play all your this is all you've done. Yeah but now guys looking non-royal because they're thinking they see guys that they know instead of saying they can't happen apple to me that Affect Luli can happen so for his sake. I hope he doesn't talk himself out of this because he's got potential to do this. All right we mental toll just as important as the physical. We do the best in his stage. No thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Jenny Taft. Join US again at the same time tomorrow morning. Nine thirty eastern. We'll see you then of

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Ep39 Commitment and Happiness

Wrestling with God Show

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Ep39 Commitment and Happiness

"Welcome to wrestling with god. Show the podcast where we grapple with big questions about faith religion and life. I'm irish mcmahon. And i'm here with our wrestling coach. My friend and irish catholic priest father fatherland macmillan irish. How you doing. I'm doing great so your homily last week really got me thinking a lot about the word commitment. What does it mean what is the importance and value of commitments in life thing. About what am i really committed to. What should i be committed to. should you be committed. Should i be a lot of people have asked me that. Actually how have my commitments or lack of commitment affected me in my life and so i thought fatherland it might be good for us to grapple with commitment today this idea of commitment and and that kind of thing at that might really be helpful to our listeners out great well since you mentioned the sunday i'll tell the story again about bo easson who i just love as speaker. I love his book. He wrote this book called There is no plan b but he does a story for years he was on the team houston oilers and then gets traded to the forty niners and he considers jerry rice the greatest football player of all time so gets traded and so bo decides. He's going to show up an hour and a half early for practice because he made this chroma since who was a kid that if he ever became a professional football player he would be the first one on the field and the last one on the field so when he was at the oilers he was always the first one on the field so get traded and the first day of training. He shows up early as always and he walks out. No-one's air and he's never did it again. I'm the first one here. And he looks over and holy cow jerry. Rice was already there on the field and he was shocked because jerry rice considered the greatest football player of all time. Any says shouldn't a lesser player. Or someone who's just scrambling to stay on. The team have showed up early. Not the greatest player. Ever i on the team and tells the story that during the warm ups says joe montana's there and they're sixteen receivers lined up to catch the passage from joe montana so joe montana just glides the ball to the first receiver and they catch it and watch it. Walk it back to joe montana and then walks back in line and then the next one jogs out tim. He glides the ball right to him and he catches it walks at back walks back in line and then jerry rice gets up in. Bo is really interesting. This is going to be interesting and jerry. Just bolts and joe montana put some spice on the ball and bam. He is often running and he catches it and then he turned around and starts running a hundred yards to the end zone and bows thinking where the heck is he going runs to the end zone then runs back runs about cleared. Joe montana then gets back in line and he keeps doing this over and over and over again. So after. A couple of hours bo says to jerry. What why do you do that. Why why doing that in jerry. Has this great line where he says. Because i made this promise that whenever these hands touched the ball this body would end up in the end zone and he said other awesome awesome. I love. that's a great line. He says there are no excuses. There are no accidents. never never never. There's only commitment and so just being on the same team as jerry boe said his commitment level gets turned up. It changed everything so just being around. Somebody who's commitment level has turned up. That high bo says mind gets turned up. And here's the really amazing thing. Oh said that it not only turned up his commitment to work out. It changed everything. It turned up his commitments on everything how he approaches marriage how he approaches his kids and bo says if i ever turn down the volume on commitment that is on me and so i just love that that. Wow commitment breeds. Commitment and indifference breeds indifference. You're either turning up the volume or you're turning it down and you're turning it up on everything and there's two types of commitment the even if commitment or the or the as long as commitment the even if commitment is even if there's trouble there's hardship if there's cancer sickness i show up the long as commitment is was long as they feel like it as long as there's not like a better tv program going on and i know a lot of people who say that they're commit committed like i know one priest who he's a good guy but i'm always kinda shocked at how low his commitment level as he says he's committed he believes in love and the people and as long as there's not a better tv program going on That's a as long as or even if commitment is in the bible. I think the greatest is really old. Testament is the book of ruth where ruth husband has died. She's in poverty. Her mother-in-law is in poverty and her mother-in-law's going to go back to israel and russa's not hebrew. And bruce says were you go i will go. Mother-in-law warns her that nothing. Good is ahead. it's going to be poverty and hardship. People will hate you. There's racial prejudice and reuss gives us great speech. That even with all that. I will keep my vow where you go. I will go and i. It's a great speech where you go. I will go where you die. I will die. And there's some people i've met in life that i i'm just odd with and that's why like i love bows book. There is no plan. B told the story that while ago. I had this wedding at another church. Which i really don't like to do but i guess i am more than busy. I'm overworked here. But so i have to show up early because you're committed fatherland i should be committed but i had show up because it's a half an hour drive and i'm just sitting outside the church in this. Basque woman is walking in. I don't know who the heck she s were madame but anyhow she asked what i'm doing here which i love being interrogated by old basque women and if at all i'm i'm here for a wedding and she's so sweet shall pray for the couple she says so i said oh so you're married and says now i'm i'm widowed but we were very committed and she said we were like geese then she jokes and says my husband knew the only way out of this marriage was in a coffin and i i love that but i love how the fact that she speaks about her commitment and she hopes this young couple have commitment because nothing is easy for the unwilling and commitment in one area of our life it turns up in all places in the odd part is commitment is so hard and yet it leads to happiness and i'm not just saying that like they've actually found that one of the sociologist who i really really love is dan gilbert anything he puts out is thoughtful and deep and years and years ago he did this study on commitment to quite young and he was just doing research and he was young and he was living with the love of his life and they're just living together they weren't married because you know who needs a piece of paper and he went off on all that and so he does this long term research on commitment and he found out people who actually make commitments turn out happier their marriages are happier. Their lives are happier. It's harder but they're happier and after all this overwhelming research. He's a great scientist. He comes home to his live in girlfriend and he says we will be getting married. I know and he said you know life is an older man. He's life it. Turn out five but we are happier and all. The evidence is commitment leads to happiness. You know it. It seems like you know you're talking about marriage and looking around the we. We're in this totally low commitment world. At the moment you know a lot of young people don't want to get married. They don't wanna make that commitment or if they do get married. It's like a disposable commitment. You know you go well. This isn't working so good. You know we grew apart. Or whatever and it really. This is one of the things that your homily when you started talking about commitment and i met my wife in high school and we married when we were like twenty one or something and quite young immature and really reflecting on my marriage. If my wife hadn't been committed to it we probably wouldn't be married now and we certainly wouldn't be as happy as we are. We're total opposites. And i was very nice person. Shooter totally is but you know. I made life a living. Hell for her in the beginning and i was unhappy because i was so selfish i wanted to spend all my time making myself happy. And she stuck with it and i mean it just is amazing and it's brought us together it's caused me to mature and grow and i mean. She had to have the patience of job. And whatever to get through it. And it's it's very cool and you just don't see that much now you know what i find amazing about that. Is the dan gilbert study. He did find that commitment leads to more happiness but simultaneously. It leads to more suffering. Which i think is really interesting. More happiness but also. It's the uncommitted that don't suffer a lot of paying. It's the committed who are willing to suffer but end up happier. And i know that sounds awful but you. I'm sure you heard the stats. People who live together before marriage have doubled. the divorce rate in the divorce rate's already fifty percent of course is one of the most painful things you'll go through in your life. Why wouldn't you make sure you did it right in suggest that stat made no sense to me because it seems well. If you live together then logically you know you know more about the person. It's more informed choice but they've actually found the opposite in. I never made sense that until this is embarrassing. But it was on the oprah. Show i think and i i don't really watch it but i had to watch that one because i was always curious about that and when i was interesting is that she had on these couples that on their first marriage they lived together and then they got married. Didn't work the second shows people who for going to get married again except this time they refused to live together and one guy just put it so succinctly where he said you know. I tried that on my first marriage and he can't ease into commitment. Either you're committed or you're not committed and so the second time i get married this time i want it to work no matter what you simply have to jump in because if you enter in thinking well things that difficult backout then you'll back out eventually because every life is always difficult but if you jump in saying no we're going to stick together you have a greater chance of actually sticking together so living together it's kind of sliding into the commitment rather than deciding commitment yet if you just slide into it. You're less likely to stick it out. And i think the same way boasts said if you turn up the volume on your commitment all your commitment increases but i think you're right. We live in a world where commitments are very low commitment to the community. I think is very low. You know there's an old russian proverb you chase two rabbits you'll catch neither. You have to go one way or another but even like commitment to a community. I mentioned this before. They've done studies. Commitment in american society. Just to community is down. it's more about what. What about me. And the ancient romans this public virtue where you put the well being of the whole community above yourself and now you only see it in exceptions you see it in in Our perished seems to be filled with a lot of ex military and s- talking to him sometimes like in war. They would go back for each other you know. They will risk their lives for each other or shack. Our facility manager here. He's a former marine. i i. I'm just amazed we have for some reason. A lot of marines here. This one guy had just moved out here. Younger guy former marine and jack has his marine sticker on a truck and he says when they're talking a brother and he used the word brother. And i just come out. Well they had never met each other before. But there's already this underlying commitment you find it in our society but with exceptions and people who have lower commitment also have lower control over their egos if we lower the volume in our egos daito little selfish narcissism. I think we'd put other people in front of us. Or i'll never forget when as saint marks even commitment to our kids. I think has gone down because i you know when it says. Honor what is honor honors fulfilling our commitments to our relationship. And i'm always amazed at the mother who honors her children by sacrificing so much sacrificing by even letting them struggle not remove their problems for them. But when as at saint marks at greet people at the doors. They're leaving mass. This really weird thing happened where this mother and the grandmother stopped talked me and i knew who the grandmother was and the mother says you know. Do you mind if i ask your question. Because we're in this argument in said my mother thinks i'm wrong and we just want your opinion so i said well. What's what's argument. mush said. Well i have the chance to go for month in the caribbean and live with my boyfriend and my mother thinks that's raw but shouldn't life make you happy. Should i do. What makes me happy. And then she says. After that. Because i can guess a that. She mentioned that she has a young kid and she wants to have her mother. Take care of the young kid for a whole month. She can go off with her boyfriend. And of course i. Wow that is shockingly selfish like you're gonna bandon your kid for your boyfriend for a month. I i was just surprised that she thought mentality would be what you have to do. With makes you happy and not about the kid and soy find like our commitment level. I think as a society for each other for our kids for everything is really kinda low. And here's a little bible symbolism for you the number seven in the bible it means commitment but technically it means a cup covenant or an oath but a covenant is a commitment so every time the number seven comes up. It's really a code word. For a complete commitment in fact in hebrew how you say covenant is literally quote unquote to cut seven. And that's why the number seven keeps coming up constantly in the bible. The place where abraham makes us i promise is called the well of seven many sacrifices seven sheets there seven days in creation. On the seventh day the make this commitment to god and each other noah sacrifices seven animals every day and renews a covenant every seven days seven just keeps coming up over and over and over. There's seven parts to the temple. All their seven speeches from god about the temple Seven days a week. You pray the shimon. I'll go on forever. The seven sacraments but the number seven means commitment and so like in the catholic church. We have seven sacraments and they're really commitment ceremonies. And the word sacrament actually. It's a greek word that means oath now. We chose that word for the sacraments. Greek word for because actually referred to a military custom that you would make your sacrament this oath of allegiance or your promised to give your whole lives for discussing dm and for your fellow soldiers. So soldier made his sacrament which is a pledge to serve the empire so christians. They use the word sacrament. Because you're pledging this service not to the emperor but to the kingdom of god and to other people and since person makes a commitment baptism and confirmation and marriage. The early christians chose to use this word for the seven covenants of the church. Technically read the new testament. They should be called mysteries but they chose the word sacrament because they like this idea of commitment an even the word amen amen. It doesn't mean. I believe but you'd have to translate it more. In the modern languages i commit worship is gathering to together to commit yourselves to other people to god to love especially you know. Also the weak and the poor worship for us is not entertainment. It's not theater worship has actually this commitment ceremony. that's what it always is. It's a marriage or baptism or the eucharist. Were praying to be. These living sacraments These living commitments. Because god is commitment himself. You know this whole idea of commitment to me. One of the things you're committing to really because commitment is tough. I mean it's like jerry rice. How did he get to be the best wide receiver in football. He would run to the end zone every day in practice where the other guy would catch the ball and then walk back to the quarterback. Yes always has more pain more. Does it mean there's always suffering but like you know what i've learned is that on the other side of suffering is really good. You learn something about yourself. You achieve something that makes you feel good about you know a relationship that you've kept her created the suffering. It's just it's enlightening. It's strengthening and going through. It is really hard but once you get through it my goodness sake. The benefits are so huge. And you don't suffer if you don't commit. That's that's the thing that i've learned. Because i think i was probably a guy that was always low on commitment. You know i'd say. I was committed but then the first time i run into something that's really difficult. I go well you know. That's not that important. I'm going to run over here and commit to this tomorrow. My happiness is what's most important part is happiness and suffering. Go together dan. Gilbert is right or bow and jerry rice that no suffering training hardships. that goes with happiness and success. I love it. Well fatherland i i. I hope that this has gotten people thinking about commitments in their life. What they're committed to what commitment can do for them. It isn't easy But i think this is a really good episode. So i don't know whether you have anything to add fatherland. No i'm i'm doing great so tearing your hair get committed go full volume cranked it up. So we do. Welcome your comments and questions. Here on the wrestling with god show It's easy to get those to us you just head over to our website. That's w. w. g. show dot com w. w. g. show dot com and you click on the questions button and you'll see all kinds of options there and if you're enjoying the wrestling with god show and we hope that you are. Please share your favorite episodes with your friends and subscribe rate and review our podcast at apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast and we hope you'll join us next time as we continue our journey climbing the mountain of life searching for truth and meaning and purpose in our lives. Thanks for listening. See you next time

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Sanders vs. Rice  Final Showdown | 5

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Sanders vs. Rice Final Showdown | 5

"It's it's early afternoon on Thursday November Tenth Nineteen ninety-five at the Dallas Cowboys Training Facility in Texas Dion. Sanders is wearing a cowboy's his hat cocked to the side while taking questions from the gathered Dallas media. The huge forty niners cowboys. Game is just three short days away but it feels like a mismatch to everyone covering the game. The cowboys are rolling at eight and one the niners are mother. Treading water at five and four and the injuries are piling up. Steve Young the forty niners star quarterback is out injured. They've now lost two straight including one at home to an expansion team team the Carolina Panthers still the hype surrounding the matchup is huge. The media's been crafting and debating their pre-game narratives does your A showdown between the teams. That won the last three Super Bowls Dion Sanders versus Jerry Rice. The NFL's best receiver against the League's top corner to superstars who nearly traded fists on their way to winning a super bowl as teammates. What's going to happen now that there again going against each other on the field? Dion insists that he doesn't WanNa fan the flames of their rivalry but when a reporter asked him about the war of words he had with Jerry over Miss Curfews during Super Bowl. Week can't help himself. He says a curfew like that would never stand around here. Hear these teams are night and day. Were so loose. So confident really close. In San Francisco You Punch in and out there's no camaraderie. And and then when he's asked about some comments from the forty nine or organization that he's not missed San Francisco Dion replies. Listen I've got friends who have drug and alcohol problems problems and they tell you the first stage they go through is denial in the forty. Niners are in denial. And what about Jerry. Rice's locker room comments about how dion only played half a season with the niners that no one guy can win a super bowl dion answers. I took it personal. He said I was only there half season. I was fourteen games laughed when I saw it. I thought it was funny. As hell to see Guy Upset and stumble around and curse like that over a few words I never I said I want a super bowl by myself. I don't know where that came from. Michael Irvin the cowboys flashy pass catcher. Who many think has replaced Jerry as the top receiver in the League strolls over to reporters asked him to comment about Jerry? Ervin answers what Jerry Jerry Rice the real Jerry. Jerry Jones Dion and Irvine laugh hysterically. They know their boss. The cowboys owner will love that line. Now the guys are rolling. The trash talk is flowing knowing as reporters bring the questions. Back to Sunday's game for the niners Dion says I want to win that game big not just by seven points. I want to do things in the end zone. It's a bold statement that he knows Jerry Rice in the niners will hear what he doesn't know is that it'll unleash a side of Jerry. Even Dion hadn't seen before by now you've likely heard about Disney plus the new streaming service service that includes Disney Pixar Marvel Star Wars and National Geographic Disney plus is now available in the US and it has one of the most incredible libraries is in the entire streaming landscape. And it's all ad free from beloved classics like Snow. White and the seven. WARF's to modern blockbusters like Captain Captain Marvel and avengers endgame to critically acclaimed documentaries like National Geographic's free Solo. The content on Disney plus is truly unparalleled paralleled Disney plus also offers beloved series like the Simpsons and a host of originals. Like the man delorean the first ever Star Wars live action series as well as high school musical. The musical the series of very meditate on the beloved film franchise. It's no wonder Disney plus has become become one of the most talked about streaming services of twenty nineteen. So don't miss out sign up for Disney plus now and start streaming all this great content today away from wondering I'm Dan Rubenstein and this is sports wars the most recent episode stars for NFC West rival teams seems Dion Sanders and Jerry. Rice became unlikely teammates in San Francisco and together help lead the forty niners to super bowl. Glory but they're clashing approach approach and personalities came to a head during the lead up to the big game in Miami when they got in each other's faces and nearly came to blows and when when Dionne entered free agency after the season he bolted for Dallas the niners biggest rival where he agreed to a huge landmark contract. Now now dion and Jerry are set to go at each other on the field once again and as they enter the next chapter of their lives both will take on adversity that will change them forever. The rivalry enters a new chapter in rather unexpected fashion. This is episode five the final showdown It's November Twelfth Nineteen ninety-five and Texas Stadium Media just outside of Dallas Jerry. Rice tears across the line of scrimmage at Primetime himself Dion Sanders. Rice is pissed. I pissed at Dion now makes twice as much money as he does pissed that dion had the stones to mock him at a news conference. He's so pissed that he can't hear roar of the sixty five thousand plus fans bearing down on him. Outside of Dion. Everything in the world is blocked out. This is why I run the hills while he writes amateur rap songs. This is why I demand perfection for myself while T. demands dollars from his team. This is how I show the difference between me and broad. Dion has never seen Jerry so intense. It's unsettling he thinks was all that trash talk of a steak Dionne just wanted to have some fun and give the media some red meat but it seems to have sparked something crazy and Jerry. The ball is snapped. It's a run but that's not stopping either guy from trying to send a message to reach other dion runs up bumps JERRY GRABS HIS JERSEY. Jerry dives into Diaz legs the broadcast team in the booth takes notice and when they about Dion Sanders. Es Physical. And the line of scrimmage. And I'll tell you another thing about Jerry Rice. He is also physical and he is an excellent blocker. and You ed remember just on that point. That play was going away from those two guys way to come. Adam will be talking on the next down the cowboys his defense falls into zone coverage they're just guarding areas not individual niners. Jerry's disappointed not to get dion one on one but also and even with the niners backup qb under center. He thinks big mistake. Roy Why is Jerry Rice off to the racism. Jerry rice rice touchdown from eighty one yard. There's one field fired up today. Jerry Rice now after a couple of cowboys turnovers. The forty niners are out big. The Dallas Dallas crowd is stunned and now the niners are threatening once again as Jerry steps. To the line of scrimmage. Dion is once again opposite him and now it's it's clear that he's in man coverage so no more zone to hide from each other Jerry's adrenaline surges good. Jerry thinks this is how I really want to score goals. Burbach withdrawing boost. I think that's what we're waiting for. Your when you get down there for the touchdown Dion Sanders against Jerry right now. Gun that ball a little sooner. That could have been a touchdown early. Good Jerry clinches his fist visted frustration. Gir- Bach Jerry. Thanks Steve would never have missed A. GimMe like that still the niners score again making it. It twenty one nothing but Jerry is also keeping track on his personal scoreboard. He wants one against Dion. Go deep and John Boy Territory Thirty twenty. It wasn't covered by sanders and he was coming out of the slot crossing twenty six yard pickup with with the score. Now twenty four to seven in the second quarter the cowboys switch Tiaan back onto rights. durbar Sir Welcome Sanders Right. Everyone was looking for. This is what you want to stay double coverage. There's no so there's no safety intimately help you. Your advice gets to step out of raises his hand. There's no one with better catch up. Spader all football number twenty one now. The matchup is starting to hunt. Jerry he knows what at the announcers must be saying. He's cooking the cowboys but not the way he wants Dion Sanders at halftime. The forty niners lead thirty one to seven in the locker room. Forty forty niners players are enjoying themselves. They're chatting and joking around Jerry walks in sees this and explodes. Hey he screams James. This shit is serious. Cut Out all this. But we haven't won yet. The locker room falls deathly silent. No one even dares to make Dion Jon Sanders joke to lighten the mood in the second. Half Dion sticks on Jerry and Jerry still hell bent on putting dion in his place in front of the millions watching watching at home for a quarterback and a wide receiver. He met batters physical as it can get out there. It's third and long for the niners. There's late in the third quarter. Jerry beats the on off a quick move. He's opened deep. Jerry looks up and Gir- Bach throws it incomplete intended intended for J J stokes another niner receiver entirely Jerry. Motions angrily Durbach. That was Jerry's last chance at beating Dion on today. He's frustrated but as he walks off the field with a surprisingly big win. He knows that he took this round. Jerry approaches dion puts. It's a hand on his shoulder and says hey those things I said to the media. I was just standing up for my teammates. Even dion is speechless. There's not much just to say he knows Jerry took today's battle afterward. When asked Dion tells a reporter? Hey My hats are off Jerry Rice. He's the best receiver to ever play the game. So it's a few months later. April nineteen ninety six thirty miles south of San Francisco. Jerry is running alone up. A mountain path fields fields of wildflowers on each side every off season since his twenties Jerry has pushed his limits. By sprinting up this two and a half Mile Hill in a nature preserve. He's now thirty two and feels better than ever. This is what allows him to dig deep and fourth quarters when he's exhausted. This is the difference between being in good and being an all time great because of this his lungs and legs are the stuff of legend. He's also even at thirty two coming off the best S. season of his career. One hundred twenty two catches thirteen touchdowns and nearly nineteen hundred yards receiving. That's over four hundred yards more than any receiver his the age ever but Jerry's not satisfied he's still obsessing over hell. The niners season ended. They won five straight after beating. Dion and the cowboys the regular season but fell to NFL MVP Brett Farve in his packers in the playoffs. Jerry ended up watching the super bowl from home watching as a familiar. cornerback added insult to injury. I down at the excellent job of catching the football and the little prime time. Forty eighty seven yards on the play for Standard Jerry continue sweating and grunting his way up the hill. He has to beat Dion next year but has he runs. Jerry knows this obsession has come at a cost. He thinks about his wife. Jackie she's pregnant. With the couple's third child she's the backbone of the family and has been there for him during his darkest days as a player. But he thinks is he there for her. He works year round and when he is. He's home he's not fully present. He's never taken Jackie on even a single vacation. His single-minded way of living is hurting their relationship. And he he knows it. But Jerry can't stop working yesterday. The niners draft a receiver in an early round named Tara. llewellyn's if I relax Jerry. Everything's the game and the younger players like that dude will pass me by. So he continues hustling up the incline. It's May Sixteenth Nineteen ninety-six a month later. Jackie gives gives birth to their third child. Jerry is there to cut the umbilical cord. It's a healthy baby girl but there are complications. Jackie is bleeding internally. Finally she needs emergency surgery. Jerry feels helpless. He's terrified soon. The doctors tell him. Jackie may not make it through the night. Jerry kneels down and praise miraculously Jackie's conditions stabilizes. But she still in a coma. A respirator is keeping her alive. Some doctors WANNA turn it off no way Jerry says Jerry stays at the hospital with Jackie for weeks. He strokes strokes. Her hair reads her magazines. Jerry is distraught and filled with regret about how he's approached their life together while he was busy constructing in his entire world around football. He knows he failed to appreciate what truly matters three weeks later. Jackie Awakens from her coma. Still doctors don't know if she'll ever walk again. And Jerry has doubts of his own but of a different sort he wonders if he'll ever play football again it's November nineteen ninety-six. The cowboys team plane is levelling out at thirty thousand feet and route to San Francisco for a showdown against the forty niners. Players aboard are glued to their personal DVD players. They're watching movies like Billy Madison. The usual suspects chuckling. At Billy's drying think of a blue duck dion screen is bigger and more expensive than anyone's he's drawn into his own viewing choices. Well watching it over and over. It's game film of Jerry. Rice Dion is studying the receivers footwork watching his first two steps for clues. Dion hits pause. He opens a notebook. It's filled with information on the niners route combinations Cowboys Safety Darren Woodson glances over at Dion. John Woodson knows that this is a side of dion. Most people don't get to see Dionne. Meticulous Preparation Woodson sees it during practice to how hardy on works how he compliments and pushes his teammates behind closed doors. DVD screen goes black batteries dead. A few teammates look over and notice dion alone in his thoughts. He's looked pretty withdrawn lately. If they knew what he was really going through they'd be worried. It's November nineteen ninety-six at candlestick park. The niners are hosting the Dallas cowboys. Jerry's numbers this season are down for the first time. He skipped spring minicamp to help Jackie at home when he eventually did return to football. It was tough to concentrate. He you wondered if it was right to be back on the field. He never wondered that before in the first quarter. Jerry goes into motion before a snap. WHOA Jerry Rice the intended RESEDA broken up by Sander even though dion made the play? He's rarely focused on Jerry. One on one in fact demons now consistently playing offense is well Jerry wonders if his rival will ever care as much about their ongoing battles as he. Does the scores. Seventeen all heading into sudden death overtime. Jerry desperately wants a chance to score on Dion but the cowboys get the ball and quickly drive to get near Field Goal Range as Jerry watches. There's this ethin- dion playing offense at his position and there's nothing he can do about it. Diaz catch sets up a field goal. Try to work. AH OVER AMID THE POST game scrum of players coaches and Media Dion and Jerry. Jog Out to the field directly at each other cameraman surround them anticipating drama instead there witness witness to a deeply personal moment one rooted in mutual and long lasting respect jerry and dion embrace. 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Lounge wear reimagined. Words don't do justice you just you have to check it out. All I can tell you is after giving my dad. The post-shave do there's just there's a spring in his step after he cleans his face. It's it's pretty remarkable to see so. Check out dollar Shave Club. Holiday Gift Selection Right now at dollarshaveclub dot com slash sports wars order before or December eighteenth to arrive by the twenty fourth with free shipping. These gift sets are limited and will sell out that's dollarshaveclub dot com slash supports wars dollarshaveclub dot com slash sports wars. It's May nineteen ninety seven six months later. Dion is driving his Mercedes down on an interstate near the Ohio Kentucky border. It's the middle of the night. He's here specifically because he's playing baseball again for the nearby Cincinnati reds leads with his two super bowls. Unique athletic gifts money and fame. Dion should feel on top of the world instead he feels empty. He's lonely. He felt this way in San Francisco to after the Super Bowl. Win in Miami. Dion didn't party. He went straight to bed. Ed for Awhile. He's been trying to fill this emptiness with more gold and diamonds more women more cars more designer clothes and more endorsements nothing. Nothing has helped. Dion thought that once he signed his thirty five million dollar cowboys contract and after he helped another team get over the top and win a super purple. Then he'd be happy but still. He felt something huge missing now he pulls his car to the side of the road and looks down wooden cliff. He hasn't slept for days. He's disoriented his wife. Caroline recently filed for divorced and gained custody of their kids. Dan is constantly ashamed for not being faithful to his marriage. He thinks about his father. Daddy Buck who died of cancer in nineteen ninety-three he he was never there for Dion and Dion won't be there for his kids. Dion falls deeper into despair. He starts sobbing yelling at himself himself. He writes a suicide note and a will then. He floors the gas pedal of his Mercedes. And accelerates off the cliff mm-hmm it's September twenty first nineteen ninety eight at Giants Stadium in New Jersey. The cowboys are playing the giants on Monday Night Football Dion Sanders enters through the stadium tunnel and spots a heckler. Miraculously Dion survive to suicide attempt last year. His car landed at the bottom of an embankment in shallow water. He walked away unscathed scape almost immediately after dion found religion and vowed to change his ways since then dion has transformed his life. He's stopped hanging out in nightclubs donated a million dollars to his church and post a weekly Bible. Study in suburban Dallas called. What else but primetime time Tuesday's he also regularly visits a nursing home to meet with lonely residents? It's the second quarter Dion awaits upon on a line I by sanders started her. Quarter Guy Territory leaving I I in the fourth quarter. He's playing cornerback. Diab looks at the receiver across from him and says God is good. Amy The receivers confused after years of watching Dion. Talk Trash Nash. Grab Jam and get under the skin of guys like Jerry Rice. They don't know how to react to this new when the ball is snapped though he still plays like like old risk by Sander's store it for the next two seasons dion remains locked in as an an exciting all-purpose pro bowl caliber player for the cowboys. Then in two thousand he suddenly is old Dion but not in a good way after being cut by the cowboys for financial reasons he signs a long term deal with Washington where he plays for one season before retiring suddenly amid turmoil with the team four years later though in two thousand four he decides to come out of retirement and joins the Ravens for two seasons than retires for good at age thirty seven. It's January twenty third. Two thousand three at QUALCOMM stadium in San Diego at Super Bowl thirty seven Jerry. Rice is wearing a white silver and Black Oakland raiders uniform. No one not even Jerry. Thought he'd be here about to play in his fourth fourth super bowl six years ago coming off another all pro season and leading the league in catches with his niners. Jerry tore his ACL a devastating knee. Injury jury lying on the field. Jerry thought his career was over but then three months after surgery he saw off his cast and amazingly mazing Lee returned. Usually recovery for this is a year plus still both Jerry and the niners had subpar seasons in one thousand nine hundred nine and in two thousand and the team no longer wanted to be saddled with Jerry's hefty salary and not so hefty production. This was crazy to Jerry. After after everything he'd done for the franchise. This is how it's going to end after watching guys like dion get paid a fortune. While he played for less money was was the issue. So Jerry did something unthinkable. He joined the Cross town. Oakland raiders the result at incredible resurgence. Though though maybe not totally surprising to people who know Jerry Rice in two thousand two jerry finished with ninety two catches over twelve hundred receiving yards and made the pro bowl all at age forty so nearly a decade since Jerry won his last super bowl. He's back on. FOOTBALL'S BALLS BIGGEST STAGE TRAILING TAMPA BAY thirty four to fifteen in the fourth quarter raiders quarterback rich Gannon looks to throw it forty eight yards this but it wouldn't be enough the bucks easily. Take down the raiders. Forty eight to twenty one but Jerry. Jerry Rice keeps on working and keeps chasing wins in two thousand four. He's traded to Seattle for an unremarkable year and then in two thousand five five attends broncos training camp. He's forty two years old now unprecedented for an NFL wide receiver and for good reason. His explosiveness has has faded. And he's having trouble getting open. The wideout who beats him for the final receiver position in Denver grew up with Jerry Rice poster on his bedroom room wall so after decades in the NFL. Jerry sees the writing on his wall. He hangs up his cleats. This time for good. It's August seventh. Two Thousand Ten in Canton Ohio Jerry. Rice is onstage for his induction into the pro football hall of fame. He feels immense pride but looking out at the crowd. Jerry feels an absence his father Joe who taught hot him hard work and how to catch bricks who jerry was always terrified of letting down passed away a few years ago the last time Jerry saw him Jerry Toll Joe Oh that he loved him. He gathers himself and delivers his speech. This is finally it. There are no more rows to run. You know more touchdown to store no more records to set that. Young boy from Mississippi has finally stopped running. Aw whether your reaction is excellent or I caramba. This is is definitely some exciting news. 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It's all there all the songs everything springfield is they're are all the iconic moments now available Disney plus in the United States. So get excited because you can stream the first thirty seasons of the simpsons and so so much more right now when you subscribe on Disney plus a year later on the same stage dion gets his turn being enshrined into the Hall of Fame Hall of famous. I am so privileged so thankful to be amongst you 'cause I was trick or treating and it when even Halloween because all the things you really thought I was some of the things you didn't like you didn't love you didn't want except I was doing from a mom thank you. It's January twenty fourteen Jerry. Rice and Dion Sanders are long established as living legends. Nfl God's the best at their positions ever they've each got super bowl rings and hall of fame. Aim Gold Jackets. But they can't stop trying to one up each other even in silly ways dion hit send on a tweet that reads ladies and gentlemen. I am officially announcing I will suit up in Hawaii. Please let Jerry Rice know that a real captain leads by example. Shortly after the tweet Jerry tweets back dion. I would beat you down like the old days we can suit up but it would be very painful for you. Fans see the tweets confused are they serious an NFL spokesperson clarifies their honorary captains at the pro bowl. Neither guy is playing but they are selecting teams teams and on the sidelines as rivals days later in Hawaii Deanne Jerry are sitting beside each other both have smooth booths shaved heads and a relaxed looking. Jerry is wearing shades. Dion Looks Jerry quizzically. Jerry seems less uptight others are starting to notice. What is this too? He seems to be embracing his celebrity having more fun for instance former teammates and opposing players alike recently watched their TV's with astonishment as Jerry appeared on dancing with the stars wearing bell bottoms and an Afro Wig. Jerry performed the cha-cha in front of the world world cheering him on from the front row of the audience was his wife. Jackie who had long since made a full recovery as he danced Jerry blew her a kiss incredibly. He made the finals because of course he did. Jerry doesn't take any competition lightly rice. The retired receiver also notices a different Dion. His is flashy smile and presence of showman still remain but he seems more mature more reserve since retiring Diaz has been involved with Youth Football. Oh his church and has worked as a TV analyst on the NFL network now. Dion and Jerry reminisce about their battles. Dion admits to Jerry that he hated did playing against him. Jerry smiles but quickly hides it later Jerry and Dionne appear on stage for a coin flip to begin selecting players for the proble and despite despite the relaxed moments they shared. Even that gets weirdly competitive. It's all an act to generate interest for the proble. But there's an edge to the ribbing you I wonder if they're actually joking dion says get the call heads or tails corn tells the and the show begins from there. Jerry's a little nervous. He's really not sure of himself. Asia faking anger like a pro wrestler. Jerry gets and Diaz face. Dion won't even look at Gerry host. Yeah Okay Smarter you should this is going to be great. is going to be entertaining. And we're going to bring their true real competitive headed the spirit back to the game and do not rule out the Jerry and I will play in the game how I see it right now because we have not heard from commissioner goodell on if I can't participate on no budget aged but I don't know but if worst come the worst this is what I'm thinking instead of having a coin. Toss guys to see who received the kickoff. Although we can do that we can do that right now. Why don't we just go one on watch? Jerry's in space stands tall puffing out his chest and if he catches the ball team what you might get it back to the House we get it on it beginning of the game and have when the pro bowl game finally kicks off Jerry wears a backwards visor and a number Eighty Jersey Dion wearing number twenty one has grown out of white beard. They they definitely look different from their playing selves. But the rivals from the nineties can't shake their competitive streets the game see-saws back and forth a touchdown soundbite team rice in the final seconds cuts team Sanders. Lead to twenty one twenty Jerry decides to go for two to win it here and now and it's good tim. Rice wins. Twenty two to twenty one. Dion looks shellshocked. Jerry dashes onto the field waving towel and jumping up and down of everything he's accomplished professionally. The Super Bowl's in awards his College Stadium and Mississippi being named after him achieving legendary status as perhaps the greatest player player ever. Jerry has never looked happier on a football field than he does in this moment. No matter your age no matter. The setting beating down a rival in front of the world never gets old and I hope you enjoyed this sports wars story. If you did you can subscribe on Apple. PODCASTS spotify Google podcasts hard cast wondering dot com or wherever. You're listening to this right now if you're listening on a smartphone tap or swipe over the cover art of this podcast you'll find the episode's end end some offers from our sponsors by supporting our sponsors. You help us offer you the show for free if you like. What you've heard we'd love for you to give us a five star rating and tell your friends how to subscribe another way to support us is to answer a short survey at wondering dot com slash survey and tell us what sports stories you'd like to hear and a a quick note about the conversations you've been hearing we can't know exactly what was said but this dialogue is based on our best research? 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Sanders vs. Rice  Sleepless Nights | 3

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Sanders vs. Rice Sleepless Nights | 3

"It's October Thirteenth Nineteen ninety-one one at candlestick park in San Francisco Dion. Sanders stands at the goal. Line in the Falcons Jersey awaiting a forty niner kickoff. It's the the third quarter and the crowd is buzzing but it has nothing to do with primetime just moments ago forty nine receiver Jerry Rice Holding a fifty seven yard touchdown pass. The crowd went threes dion nut so much Indians young. NFL L. career seeing rice up close with the ball in the end zone has become an all too familiar sight during their first meeting. In one thousand nine hundred nine John's rookie year Jerry out randy on for one touchdown and burned him one on one for another. The forty niners won that game forty five to three and then beat Dion. John's Falcons again in Atlanta. The Falcons finished nineteen eighty-nine with an awful three and thirteen record. While Jerry's niners finished fourteen into ooh and flattened the DENVER broncos fifty five to ten in the Super Bowl for their second straight world championship. Jerry led the way with three touchdown touchdown catches to help deliver the Games. MVP Trophy to quarterback Joe. Montana Dion watched it all on tv one thousand nine hundred ninety though somehow got worse for prime time. His Falcons secondary against the now two-time champs the first time at candlestick Park San Francisco. Jerry pulled in one hundred seventy one yards worth of catches including a forty two yard touchdown in a dominant forty niners win. Two Games later sold out. Fulton County Stadium in Atlanta Falcons. cornerback not named Dion. Tried taking Jerry. One on one. And the Falcons paid the price. Rice racked up two hundred twenty five yards receiving and five touchdown receptions tying an NFL record India two professional seasons. He's he's now Owen four against Jerry's niners in those games. Jerry has eight eight touchdown catches dion. Meanwhile has picked off just one pass has and hasn't yet found the end zone either on defense or as a return specialist something. He's keenly aware of as he stands a few yards into the end zone. Now awaiting a niner's kickoff over although dion has been an excellent NFL player albeit. For an overall bad falcons defense. He knows that and he makes sure everyone knows that he knows that. He's had eight interceptions in two seasons and returned a couple of them for touchdowns and he also returned punt for a touchdown but still dion has yet to make a pro bowl and now he's wondering when everyone else will realize how great great he actually is and how much money will follow two years ago when he received his first NFL paycheck. Dion fulfilled the childhood. Promise must he made to his mom that one day he'd be so rich that she'd never have to work again. But there's a memory that still haunts him before his mom's mansion action was ready. Dion made a final visit to his old house on Henderson Avenue. In Fort Myers. He saw the scary cemetery he used to run by and late that evening. He couldn't sleep as he heard the sound of rats scratching behind the houses walls. He felt horrible that his mother still had to live that way even for another night. It's been a constant constant reminder that for her sake he cannot ever stop making big money otherwise she could lose the mansion and return to poverty to avoid. That Dion Dionne knows that he must remain in the spotlight and continued to produce on the field that means he needs to keep producing highlights and wins today in this warm breezy October. Nineteen ninety-one game in San Francisco. No one is giving the falcons much of a shot. They entered candlestick as ten and a half point. Underdogs the Falcons are two and three. If they lose any shot the playoffs. We'll start floating away in the bay win with the game tied at twenty twenty in the third quarter. After Jerry's touchdown dion brings in the kickoff at the Falcons goal. Dion knows he needs to his team is shot in the arm right now. Dion John Follows a few blockers then notices Elaine Open Up. He shifts into another gear of empty. Twenty good awarded thirty yards dion. High stepping into the end zone helps US falcons to the surprising win but his personal battle with Jerry. Rice is far from over two years. After the candlestick crowd booed dion for Yanking Jerry's facemask. Dion has a message for them. After the game he tells reporters that I love coming here and beating the forty niners all their fans going to jump right off the bandwagon Jerry. Jerry Rice isn't ready to concede anything to be on Santa's that easily by now you've likely heard about Disney plus the new streaming service that includes Disney Pixar Marvel Star Wars and National Geographic. Traffic Disney plus is now available in the US and it has one of the most incredible libraries in the entire streaming landscape. And it's all at free from beloved classics like Snow. White and the seven dwarfs to modern blockbusters like Captain Marvel and vendors endgame to critically acclaimed documentaries stories like National Geographic's Free Solo. The content on Disney plus is truly unparalleled Disney plus also offers beloved series like the the simpsons and host of originals. Like the man delorean the first ever Star Wars live action series as well as high school musical the musical the series. He's a very Meta take on the beloved film franchise. It's no wonder Disney plus has become one of the most talked about streaming services of twenty nineteen. So nope don't miss out sign up for Disney plus now and start streaming all this great content today uh from wondering I'm Dan Rubenstein and this is sports worse in in the last episode we explored how Jerry Rice who was drafted into the NFL amid a cloud of some doubt over his small. All school competition overcame early failures in the NFL to become a super bowl champion and legitimate superstar we looked at how Dion Sanders Sanders with his. Now show stopping speed and showboating style landed a big NFL contract in his preferred city and made an instant on field impact. But in their much hyped initial encounter dion was ruthlessly. Welcome to the League by the five year veteran rice as we move into the nineteen nineties with both players is coming into their own as stars their little back and forth will become full on battles when they're deeply rooted needs for winning and excellence as for relevance and recognition feel more and more unsatisfied. They each consider a move. That will tie together. Their football legacies forever. This is is episode three sleepless nights. It's Sunday November. Third Nineteen ninety-one Atlanta's Fulton County Stadium. Three weeks after for the Falcons stunned the forty niners in San Francisco. It's an unseasonably cool afternoon. But the Falcons who haven't had a winning season in nearly a decade aid are red hot. They've now won four of six and if they can take this one and sweep the niners for the season. They'll have a rare winning record and shot at the playoffs playoffs. The niners are still favored by five on the road. But the Falcons are out to prove that they're upset and San Francisco was no fluke. The city of Atlanta Lanta somewhat used to their team's disappointing is starting to embrace the Falcons on Atlanta's sideline dion good friend. Mc Hammer is roaming around around in his shades and Maroon suit his new single too legit to quit for good. Reason is a smash hit standing near Hammer a bay area native mind. You is the falcons colorful second year. Head coach Jerry. GLANVILLE WHO's wearing all-black not too far. Away newly-acquired Falcon Receiver. Andre Reisen season is already drawing opponents. Finally Dion thinks I'm surrounded by guys with my sort of swagger. These are my people. Aw On the other side Line Jerry. Rice looks over at MC hammer and rolls his eyes. The Falcons are not Jerry's kind of team. They're not the type of players who hand the ball to the official. After scoring a touchdown. They're not the sort of everyday pros who conservatively fall on bumbler cautiously go down after intercepting a pass ask knelt. These are dudes who showboat in the end zone who unnecessarily try and lateral the ball around after a takeaway like a bunch of careless clowns probably W. why they haven't won a damn thing thinks jerry all sizzle no steak. That lucky win a few weeks ago not happening again. Rice knows knows it's on him to make sure there's no more embarrassment this season for the niners. This is a crossroads for the franchise. They're also foreign four at this point after back to back Super Bowl titles in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight eighty nine. The niners were fourteen into last season but lost to the eventual champion giants in the NFC title game. They're also now a couple years removed from the retirement of former head coach. Bill Walsh mastermind of the franchises. Incredible run also to veteran stars of the one thousand nine hundred forty niner dynasty defensive back Ronnie Lott and running back Roger. Craig left after last year. For the Cross town raiders. The niners legendary legendary quarterback Joe. Montana is now thirty five years old and out for the season with an injury. His replacement is Steve. Young young lefty. WHO's been waiting in the wings long enough to start law? School classes young is talented. But the jury's still out as to whether he can be great so this is Jerry's team now the niners to return to excellence he'll have to lead the way and today the NFL media is largely expecting a big game from Jerry as he looks to exact his and the forty niners revenge. Jerry rises made a career out of blowing against Atlanta Fourteen touchdowns twelve games including five on this field a year ago. It's the first quarter and the forty niners second goal. At the Falcons seven Jerry lines up to the left. He looks across the Line of scrimmage and sees guarding him. One on one. Jerry thinks he's all my as young takes the snap. Dion gets up on Jerry Jackson Rice than breaks free and stutter steps to his right. Got Him Jerry thanks dion is now trailing him by a few steps Jerry then raises his left hand to signal his openness to young and weights throw sanders for Jerry. Rice sparkling supply by Sander's man for man bump and run. He had a look at the control center. It had been a touchdown rice. His pissed a Montana throat would have the easy made it seven. Nothing and I wouldn't have Dion Sanders yapping in my ear this entire time dion. Meanwhile nosy got away with one on the next play. Young is sat. And then the Falcons blocked the forty niner field goal attack. It's a huge stop. The crowd is going bananas. The niners then get the ball back. After a defensive stop of their own near midfield young goes back to throw with dion still covering Jerry man to man again again jerry gets open and this time dion can't recover Jerry Rice soap within Atlanta territory working on Dion Sanders as Sapiro another first later in the quarter young tries Jerry again. I down for the niners. Despite Jerry finding space against Dion it's still scoreless in the second quarter when Dion is matched up with a different forty nine receiver section soups of the San Francisco. Forty the Taliban into the second half the niners still lead the falcons seven. Nothing but now Steve. Young is hurt hurt. And they're down to third string quarterback Steve Bono Bono takes the snap throws to Jerry who's lined up to the left against Diaz second down and five look get all the guys they got to change the plan. Throw the ball quickly over the rice sticks ahead down picks up the first down white over Dion Sanders. The niners have the ball near midfield. Dion is guarding Jerry. Man to man on the left dion quickly pumps jerry off the line but bono throws throws the ball to Jerry Anyway. It's still up in the air to sanders true to character dion and his defensive teammates. Try some extra flash on the interception return and suddenly the home crowd is starting to come alive. It's still seven nothing. When Midway through fourth Atlanta drives to inside the forty niner one yard line in the Georgia Dome is now electric on the sideline? MC Hammer wearing fresh new kicks and pants can barely contain his excitement MC hammer in his latest music video Ludik Dion Sanders and Jerry. Glanville I at ten percent Francisco but then in the final minute of forty nine touchdown makes it. Fourteen ten niners just nine seconds remain. The air has gone out of the stadium. Heads hang on the Falcon sideline. Mc Hammer has fallen quiet. The Falcons have the ball just past midfield. They'll need a hail Mary to win it. The question on everyone's mind. How are the Falcons? Truly too legit to quit. The answer comes when Falcons quarterback Billy Joe Oliver Chuck's one high toward the end zone. The falcons down there. The falcons celebrate as if they just won the Super Bowl the head coach Glanville hugs. Mc Hammer who's pumping his fist. Jerry and the niners look on stunned for the first time since eighty celebrates with Atlanta when the regular season ends the Falcons niners both both finished ten and six but the Falcons win the tiebreaker and qualify for the playoffs over San Francisco. Atlanta isn't done. The Falcons win. They're wild card game. Before falling in the divisional round but a postseason trip is a huge step forward for dion who is also named to his first pro bowl the first east of what looks like many. It's late December. The day after the season sitting at his locker at the forty niners practice facility in Santa Clara. Jerry is overcome or come by a weird empty feeling for the first time in his career. He is in the postseason for many players. This would only be a mild disappoint a setback. Too quickly shrug off for Jerry. Who always holds himself to an almost impossible standard? It's a catastrophe that motivates him. MM to work even harder as the rest of the League. Settles into the off season. It's now almost midnight. Night on December tenth nineteen ninety-three inside and Atlanta Hotel Room Sherry. Rice can't sleep tomorrow. The forty niners are playing the falcons. This and he can't get his mind off the cornerback. He knows he'll see right in front of his face mask all game long Dion Sanders setting aside all the prime time antics. The Limos the entourage Jerry knows how great of a player Dion has become. Jerry's still remembers nineteen ninety-one one two seasons ago when the Falcon Sweat Jerry's Niners Dion had outperformed Jerry and kept him out of the playoffs. Sure the forty niners had the better year or a ninety two. They went a league best fourteen in two before falling to the young arrogant and super talented cowboys. Twenty to ten in the NFC title game at candlestick but that season. Jerry didn't get his shot at revenge at Dion. You see last October Dion. Didn't join the Falcons on their annual trip up to San Francisco as if all pro football ability wasn't enough. He's still giving Major League baseball ago after a couple of years in the Yankees Organization Innovation Dion signed with the local Atlanta Braves. Initially with the promise to shut down his baseball season when football started which was then revised playing both at the same time. So during last year's Falcons visit to California Dion was busy playing in the world series hitting four seventy seventy with two doubles and five stolen bases. Here Jerry was busy gearing up for battle with his teammates and dion was leaving his teammates. Behind Take Limos private jets to baseball stadiums to Jerry. That's just not right. Rice was disappointed last fall. All he wanted his revenge without de on on the field. Jerry and the niners passing attack had free rein rice pulled in a hundred and eighty three yards and two touchdowns including one that went for eighty yards the niners vaporized Atlanta fifty. Six seventeen dion had been in uniform for the rematch last November and right there on Monday night football. The niners dismantled the Falcons again. This time forty one two three but in that game dion made life hard for Jerry who only caught four passes for forty five yards this year. Is Jerry's chance for revenge in his hotel room. A few months later in Nineteen ninety-three Jerry now visualizes lining up against dion most defensive backs. He knows he can beat on one. Move Jerry Studies all the cornerbacks her back tendencies and catalogs them in his head. He knows how to beat them. Dion though is an extraordinary case. He's so fast that it requires extra effort effort a double or triple move just to get by. Jerry stays up all night thinking about it. Little does rice now on this night and on every other evening. Before the two of ever gone head-to-head Dion lays awake as well knowing he has to face Jerry Rice all week Diaz been watching game film. Jerry running routes He's been practicing the footwork he'll need to defend Jerry's moves and tonight he's obsessively replaying in his mind the moment four years ago when Jerry toasted did him man to man for an easy touchdown late the next afternoon at the Georgia Dome. More than sixty. Four Thousand Falcons Falcons fans are going on. Today's game will have a major effect on each team's chances. Moving forward for the forty niners a victory here would improve their record to ten and three that would put them two and a half games ahead of Dallas for Homefield advantage throughout the playoffs last year. The forty niners couldn't beat the cowboys had home in candlestick so winning in Dallas would be that much harder. For Dionne in the Falcons after starting the season Owen Five. They've have now won five of seven if they can beat the forty niners. They'll have at least a shot at the playoffs on the first play from scrimmage dion is covering Jerry man to man. Jerry looks at young WHO's barking out signals out of the corner of his eye. Jerry sees a black glove extend toward him. This is odd Jerry thinks until it registers dion is offering jerry. A handshake rice is floor. He thinks this guy serious does dion on actually expect me to shake his hand right here right now. Who is he trying to get in my head? 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His best is to get Jerry Rice's head the niners first drive of the game goes deep into Falcon territory on the right side. Jerry is being covered one on one by Dion but with plenty plenty of cushion. Jerry knows Steve Young can put the ball in the right spot. This one's ending in the end zone young goes back to throw around the ten yard. Line Jerry cuts to the middle and gains inside position. Dion tells himself just back-off Bait young len think Jerry's open young sees Jerry free three and launches the ball. Jerry sees the spiral coming at him. He can now practically smell the touchdown Jerry starts to get a hand on it but at the last pass Moment Dion Beats Jerry to the ball picks it off. Primetime is immediately tackled. Then spikes the ball in celebration when the niners. There's get the ball back. Jerry is looking for payback inside. The forty nine or twenty young fines is number one target heading across the middle with dion closely trailing rice. Catch the ball moving left and then quickly pivots and spins back right completely. Faking out dion on another play Jerry shakes dion one on one and catches an easy toss from young for a nice game. Jerry's on a roll now. Dion meanwhile is steaming. He's got to pay. He thinks rice can't interest. Be running around gaining easy yards with no consequences. I've got to send a message. Once again jerry catches a short pass from young with Atlanta playing in a soft zone own Jerry spins and fakes out a defender then heads upfield and POW. He gets hit hard. Jerry looks up and looming above him. Is Dion on his bell. Still Ringing Jerry shakes it off and thanks okay. Now it's on. This dude is one hundred and sixty five pounds if he wears all his stupid jewelry around his neck. He's not getting another. Look like that ever on me. It's the second half and the niners leads seventeen. Seven Jerry is still matched up against dion rice then explodes off the line but dion is right with Jerry every step of the way sanders. This is nothing speed on speed off the top Alice. Chicken into high gear. Jerry wanted White Line of scrimmage ball to the could not have been thrown better young touchdown run gives the niners commanding twenty four to seven lead heading into the fourth. But to Rice's horror the niners crumble after multiple turnovers on special teams and several Atlanta Atlanta scores including rising touchdown. The Falcons now lead twenty seven twenty four. Just twenty eight seconds. Remain the niners. Have the final shot. Jerry knows the ball is coming his way. The Problem Sodas everyone in the stadium especially beyond young then throws a pass the sideline to Jerry. Dion sees it the whole time jumps in front and intercepts it. He thumps his chest and celebration as the Isis. The game for the Falcons. Jerry is disgusted and now there's no doubt who can claim the edge in this matchup. Even sportscenter makes a ruling twenty seven twenty four. The Falcons win at really was dion over rice. Jerry had six catches one hundred five yards sanders picked off a pair of passes edge to the neon man had its February. Sixth Nineteen ninety-four Honolulu Hawaii Jerry. Jerry Rice is surrounded by gorgeous beaches palm trees crystal blue water. It's the type of setting people work all year to enjoy peace and quiet but the the inside of Jerry's mind is no heavenly paradise. It's more like a Kramden malfunctioning. New York City subway car for the eighth straight year. He's here for the NFL NFL pro bowl. Most players. See this as a vacation but not Jerry. nope he's here to work. It's been two agonizing weeks since the forty niners were eliminated again by the cocky trash-talking cowboys. This time. The forty niners were beat down in front of sixty five thousand thousand rowdy cowboy fans thirty eight to twenty one and worst of all yet again. The niners had no one to slow down the tall physical Keflavik wideouts of the cowboys. Who went on to win their second straight Super Bowl so here in Hawaii Jerry's already obsessing over next season? He's thirty thirty one still in his prime. But Jerry knows the cowboys aren't going anywhere and could spoil the back half of his hall of fame career if he can't find a way to beat them mm-hmm as sap the cowboys. Stars quarterback Troy Aikman League. MVP Emmett Smith and unstoppable receiver. Michael Irvin are all in their twenties in the heart of if they're primes even more their crafty owner. Jerry Jones is always angling and conniving to make new moves to improve the team the niners meanwhile aren't getting any younger anger. If something big doesn't change Jerry knows the niners slide toward a relevance will only speed up. Jerry's blood is also boiling oiling. About a magazine article he recently read it ranked him Jerry Rice as the NFL's third-best receiver behind Shannon Sharpe and Michael Irvin third third. Best Rice. Thanks are you kidding. Making matters worse both guys are here laughing it up around the pool with the League's other stars. Jerry is sulking when he spots a relaxed and happy looking Irvine. Jerry calmly approaches him and says hey I want you to know I'm already training for next year. Ervine Ervin just chuckles. He's hardly one to worry about work when there's a party to enjoy this just makes rice even more upset a couple of months later. Diane is wearing a green suit decorated with dollar signs and riding on a bus packed with beautiful women. Who are his backup? Dancers is on tour promoting his upcoming rap album titled what Else Primetime with Major League Baseball on strike. Dion has plenty of free time. Some might say say too much free time. And he's trying to make the most of it dion off the field opportunities have been skyrocketing lately unlike Jerry Dion has a wide variety of endorsements like the two million dollar deal. He just signed to be a spokesperson for Sega's video games after his tour Dion faces a decision Asia for the first time in his career. He's an unrestricted free agent. He can pretty much go anywhere he wants in the League. The reason he's happy to look around is after some late season hoped the falcons once again slips then lost their final three games. They finished sixth and ten the same record. They finished swift in nineteen ninety-two Glanville was fired. Soon after for a while now dion had a voice in his head telling him you're going nowhere with the Falcons and you need a bigger brighter spotlight for all his superb. Play Dion Teams Beside that one playoff appearance ninety one have been losers and losing isn't good for legacies or hall of fame prospects so dion joined by MC Hammer embarks on another tour to find a new NFL home. He flies all over the place including to Miami New Orleans and Kansas City. Walking through some airport. At this point it's all a blur dion cell cell phone rings. It's Nike asking where he'll be playing next year. He tells them man. I'm going to Miami Dion then calls star Miami quarterback Dan Marino he says. Hey Dan it's me primetime telling you I'm all in Miami. Tell those guys I really WanNa play down there. Let's make it happen. Moreno tells him love to have you here. Prime I'll see what I can do more than anything. Dion knows that head coach. Don Shula's dolphins are a winning franchise. Plus Dion would be close to home and he could fish. A lot of favorite hobby of his Marino agrees to restructure his dolphins contract to fit dion under the league salary cap but when Dion. Here's Miami's offer. It's still way too. Low Dion offended New Orleans then offers dion four years seventeen million dollar deal his best offer yet it would make him the second highest paid defensive player in Football Dion decides to keep his options open. He travels to Kansas City. But veep gets the feeling that some of the chiefs players don't really want them there meanwhile the NFL's preseason ends and Dionne remains unsigned. It's now September fifth candlestick park for the forty niners regular season opener on Monday night. Football Jerry Rice takes the field two touchdowns Shyam Jim Brown's all-time record for good measure. You catch US three walk. Well what do you think that is a good Jimmy Brown it but Jerry right but Jerry still isn't satisfied with anything short of winning it all. He needs to be not just the best player but the best player on the best team again. It's why he worked like crazy all off season long and reported to training camp early like always in week to the niners travel to Kansas City. The chiefs chiefs quarterback is none other than Joe Montana who left San Francisco after the nineteen ninety-two season. He's now thirty eight years old and in his final. NFL All season. Jerry was devastated when Montana left it was as though the franchise had given up on Moses Montana throws two touchdowns as the chiefs win win even worse. Richard Dent. The forty niners top pass. rusher goes down with an injury just two weeks in Jerry's goal of a super bowl already starting to look look bleak meanwhile dion sanders remains unsigned. But that wouldn't last long and the unfolding news surrounding fate would soon grip Jerry. The niners in the entire. NFL in the next episode Dion makes his big free agency decision. 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Dak's contract negotiations, Brady's MVP chances, LeBron, Jerry Rice vs. Randy Moss, Cam + Belichick?

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Dak's contract negotiations, Brady's MVP chances, LeBron, Jerry Rice vs. Randy Moss, Cam + Belichick?

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jerry Taft. This podcast is the full show from today's episode of undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate. So Skip Shannon. Let's get to it here. We go for the next two hours here on undisputed we were on for as you know just one hour the last couple of days now. We've advanced back to two full hours ten to noon eastern today as we head toward. I don't know in the near future baby back to the normal two and a half hours. We sure hope so all I can tell you right now is. I have never been more excited about topics list as I am about. Today's and I have never been more confident. I can win every single debate for the next two hours which means it's time for me to bring in my debate partner. A man who actually does need an introduction. I think a lot of our people out there. Tv Land of forgotten. He did once upon a time in a land. Far Far Away he played football. I think that's what I'm told. It was way before my time and legend has it. He was even voted into the hall of fame. Maybe he's a senior member. I don't know how his name is Shannon. Sharpe Hello Shannon. How are you doing fine? You requested the Dow for two hours. An hour wasn't enough normally like if I got a win for my grandmother. I didn't say what greater next time can. You beat me a little longer. You ask what X. Additional our field is pain. I did and as everybody does on all I ever hear from that guy. Through that camera is that he won three rings he was actually like half Jordan. He was three zero and super bowls as opposed to my six. Nba Finals and Shannon. Sharpe is coming to you. Live from way up Hill Street called Beverly Glen and Bel Air from his palatial estate. I think he's coming from the wine cellar but today can't wait for this. We're going to talk about whether Tom Brady could win his fourth. Mvp NEXT YEAR IN TAMPA Bay. I love that topic and I also really love this. Whether if Lebron won another championship this year that would be his fourth. Would it be tainted Shannon's GonNa hate that topic and how about this one? The all time. Great Barbershop Debate Randy Moss or Jerry. Rice who got and finally stopped. Could CAM NEWTON FIT? Could Cam Newton be bill? Bella checks next quarterback in place of Tom Brady but today we start with my Dallas cowboys. Dak reportedly back at the negotiating table with Jerry. Jones Shannon. Sharpe I ask you. Does this meal mean a deal is coming soon? Give the most important. The most important thing this off season for the cowboys is to get this deal done because they know their season is pending on Dag. Being Happy Dag Being Ota Ben In many camps whenever that were to take place skept look laughter. This was a mate mate while club they lose. Travis Frederick they lose Randall Cobb. They lose Byron Jones. Who have they replaced these guys with no one reminder your eight nate? You don't replace those guys now. That doesn't show up for. Ota's that doesn't show up for MINICAM. There's a possibility he might not show up for training camp. Because here's the thing. His only leverage now if the threat of holding outdoor not only leverage he had no more leverage now because they've tagged and put the exclusive tag on him. He can't do anything. No other team can talk to that. That can only threaten okay. We got a new head coach. We're supposed to have three minicamps. I'm not showing up to any of them. Were supposed to have as I'm not coming. Okay once you gotTa do Jerry. Jerry talked about his football mortality. He's by and just went one more beef things he feels like. There's something missing. Because he has such success. Bet treebeard so much fruit in the beginning of Jerry tenure of owning the cowboys and now he's going twenty five years without having another bite of that fruit. He knows everything that he wants. And Hope if depending on getting that sign to a long term deal and that being happy DAX not happy. Right now you know. No one is happy with the franchise tag especially someone that's field. They've earned it over a four-year stretch in which he made slightly more than four million dollars. Go to pro bowl rookie of the year. Any win the playoff game. That says okay the ball in your court now okay. Allow me to start by saying this isn't just good news for me. This is great news. This is the first ray of light. I've had this entire postseason with my Dallas cowboys. You mentioned all the defections is been one after another Robert when obviously in Iran Jones and Oka and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and. Then we lost the Great Travis Frederick as you point out and it's been nothing but waffle news within the world of sports for me with my cowboys and obviously out in the real world but this is not good but great news because I believe Mr Shar this signals the end of this impasse. This long. Stalemate this drawn out. Unbelievably awful battle between the franchise quarterback and Jerry Jones and I believe that once Jerry had to tag Dak Prescott at the deadline. The resulting fallout from that was so negative for both sides that cooler heads finally started to prevail and there has been some thought ing. There has been some mediating. And maybe they're about to meet in a middle ground where they can actually there. I say this word compromise because remember both sides have a lot to lose because as you point out this is the essence of the offseason for Jerry Jones. It should have been the essence of last off season. This deal should have been done a year ago. You know it and I know it but I still believe that back was asking for what I would consider and I think everybody if they actually knew the number and we don't know the exact number but I think back and his new agent Todd France were asking for out of bounds. Money out of this world money. Beyon- Patrick mahomes money to the point. That even Jerry Jones said No. That's too rich even for my blood. And as you know Shannon his reputation Jerry's has always been for overpaying his stars. I thought he overpaid Z. Who did not live up to his deal. I definitely think he overpaid all of the offensive line and none of them really lived up. You might say Lyle Collins did but none of them really lived up to their deals. Last year demarcus Lawrence did not live up to his hundred million dollar deal. I don't even think Jalen Smith lived up to his new deal last year. But Jerry has a reputation for overpaying his sons and you would think his ultimate son would be his quarterback. But that's not the case because Shannon has you know. Dak Has Heisman pose Jerry Jones from the start and it's been a good thing for leadership in the locker room because all the players can trust it well. This isn't like Tony. Romo who is definitely like a son to Jerry we can trust. The back is a straight shooter. He's not double agent. He's not going to to faces and tell us one thing and Jerry Jones the other thing. He's going to play hard ball with Jerry Jones so I was afraid that the hard ball was going to have ramifications into what you've predicted which is holding out of Otas maybe holding out of Training Camp. Who knows maybe even holding out of Real Games and going? Levian Bell on the Dallas Cowboys and to me knowing Gerry. The Way I've known him and I wrote three books that heavily involved Jerry Jones when they leaked the fact in it started with W. F. A. A. in Dallas. So that was a straight league. I believe from Jerry himself if Wfan leaks that back at the negotiating table. I think that's the first huge great sign that a deal is imminent. I think the ground has finally broken in. I believe in the very near future. They will announce that they have finally cooler heads prevail. Come to terms. What do you think of that? Well well you better hope. So because here's the Thanksgiving if we look at it. You look at Tom. Brady's press conference. Tom Plays I. Don't really want to dwell on the past because I'm worried about the future and is not what have you done. What will you do? So if that's the case if you're not gonNA pay back on what he's done the previous four years which is a win to agents win rookie of the year and finished third in the League and passed. Which was a couple of yards shorter? The cowboys record. What do you believe is going to be able to do moving forward? Is that how you supposed to pay someone with? The contract about is not lifetime achievement. It's not about what you've done in the past you tell me all the time. They can't pay a player based on what he's done. They're paying you player based on what they believe he can do now. You don't believe doc is going to win the Super Bowl. If you don't believe that gets your franchise. Why are you in a while while you're wasting this time because you know you believe he can do it? They believe he can do it but they want to get into the cheapest price possible like says give Jerry Jones negotiator Jerry. Jones have pride his pride of man if I get lifted market value. I'd done a great job. Dak Prescott says no that was always through. That was never going to give Jerry a discount in especially we look at all the deals of big quarterback. This gotten done over the last year. Aaron Rodgers Russell Wilson Car to win Jerry Gone. Everybody had multiple years left on the contract when they got their money. That has no years lip and you want me to take less money than some of the guys that had two years left what I have none. I wish I might. And y'all need to stop bringing will what about all the car. No no no no no. Don't worry about what money I make skill. If I represent for the sake of argument I got a friend and he said I got this hot stock coming up. Nobody really knows about a year. But I think it's GonNa be good. I take my money I am best in it. I hated being which made it big or stop now so you don't cut us a little slack. They gotta do what you what I do. Outside of the cowboys. Have nothing to do with the cowboy if I got a hundred commercial. Don't worry about that worried about what I do in the locker room. Were about what I feel. And if that doesn't that doesn't concern what I do. An endorsement deal get at Man. Eighty million dollar fully guaranteed a hundred and twenty million dollars guaranteed and we got us a deal other than that. Kick rocks okay. Well I'M GONNA kick rocks back at you. Because obviously Scott or the quarterback of the Detroit Lions he would not have twelve national TV commercials. He is the quarterback would him and he does he benefits greatly. He would not have twelve. It's something about that star on the side of your helmet. You can ask Troy Aikman or Tony. Romo were Roger Staubach. You are blessed. You are it. You are seeing nationally as God like because you're the quarterback of the Dallas cowboys and again that's not not a real entertaining guy in and of himself. He doesn't have great off field charisma. He's not exactly a quote machine but at last count he has a dozen national TV commercials. Because he's the quarterback of America's team. So you have to take some of that into consideration. You also have well you just do. Because you wouldn't get that in Detroit or Tampa Bay where Tom Brady is right now or Miami or anywhere else. It's there is something about the Dallas cowboys switches. Why they are the most valuable team in all of sports in the world in the world skills little bit skip bayless limited. How this works if you're great and you play that position you're GonNa get commercials where no matter where you are Dan Marino cell so either Tony Glove in Miami floor. Where by the time you legal? Okay that's one eaten APP twelve and I know it so just happen. Go ahead go ahead no go ahead go make your point make your point. Look the reason they're back at. The table is in large part because of those twelve national TV commercials because the fallout was so negative. From the Franchise Tag. Here I am on undisputed saying I think DAX getting a little greedy here that I think that was starting to get a little nervous about losing some of those endorsements because it just looked bad it was a bad look for Dak Prescott and Jerry was starting to look bad. Because he's got a lot of endorsers that that by his product to and it was starting to develop real negativity around it that they've never had because remember Jerry has never will. The franchise has never used a tag on a quarterback before. And as you and I both agree. It's the one thing we do agree on. There's nothing good that ever comes a franchise tag so I think they don't-They PR negatively of. This brought both sides back to the table because it was starting to feel like damaging going forward for both sides to be fighting because there's a tag in between them go ahead gift. What skip bayless? Because I have twelve endorsement deals I can fit my hands and chill. Thank worry about 'cause they'll check they will cut no chance So Jerry do paying do what you need to do. You believe you get talking about. If it doesn't feel good to me I'm not going to do you get what Dan and. At and T. and panacea does feed all they still could checks. I'm good over here. I who do your thing but I tell you what do you want win the Super Bowl without me. Well I hope they can win a super bowl with him because he was the only ones money. There's not gonna be any salary cap left to have any supporting Hass around Delano Tim by the way. Yeah go ahead. What are they going to do with that? That could give you told me. Every person is a corporation. Google worried about what? At and T. Microsoft they got word about what they do. It took me. I don't have a salary cap the have counters soult salary cap. Tom Brady took far far less than what he deserved for. Twenty straight years in New England. You know it and I know it and the reason he did it was so bella check could have more room to build around him until bill. Check the whole sink right here at last year skill. What did they get the end of the day? All use of taking less money they still say. Get up Outta here so DAX and now what? Let's say for the sake of argument. Dad says you know what Jerry. I'm GonNa Cut Your Little Slack. I'M GONNA do. I'm GONNA do jazz. Do He. Goes out there this year and log off of something unforeseen what happened he gets injured. He getting all that money at four hundred fifty million dollars that they promised him no skip and all that now maybe this contract maybe I might be willing to cut your flight. Give you a little haircut but not the first time around. Skip not the first time around. Okay think about this right now. We don't know exactly what the tag cap the tag hit will be against the cap so is supposed to be counting this weird twenty six point eight million number but you know and I know in the end. That's going to go up to around thirty three ISH. So right now. Jerry who's always scored with the low end of Free Agency? The bargain basement deals is hamstrung. Because he's still not sure how much the exclusive tag will count against next year's cap so he needs to get back done for whatever money it's going to be so he can keep going back into free agency to get the next Randall. Cobb who recall they got last year one year for only five million. That was a real bargain for COBB. Who THEN WENT TO HOUSTON? Got Nine million a year for the next three years so right now they have an issue with. Yeah go ahead. And they got Robert Quinlan achieve remember. They got Robert Quinn but eight million. Last year and Rob Acquaint parlayed that into twelve. Thirteen million with thirty fully guaranteed did got it so. I'm told right now that the main issue is an issue that I believe they can resolve. And it's not the exact dollars. Forty million a year or one hundred and fifty million guaranteed. Whatever that is. It's just years it's four years once four versus five. Jerry wants five because as you know. Jerry's notorious for the longer deals five. Six Year deals so that he can spread the bonus out in pro rated A. Over the years again contract. Krill so corrupt. So if it's only four years versus five years. I think they can resolve that. I'm feeling real good about a deal coming way. Sooner than later I was even yesterday. I thought this thing was going to bleed on into next year and now the sun is rising for me and I'm starting to wonder Wait a second. How about them cowboys. They just might get this deal done quickly and if they do. I think Domino's we're GONNA fall because I think they'll go out and pick off a few bargain-basement free agents that will be very valuable for the sake of the whole team next year. Your thoughts on that. I just don't see how the deal get done. Unless you're going Somehow Guarantee Dak Prescott seventy plus million dollars in the first two years. I just don't see a born you can do for you. You can do three and a half you can do. Three quarter Dak. Prescott is looking for maximum dollar over the first two years of the contract because after this all bets are off ever that basically after you get past the first two years you start ripping up the contract because either GonNa Company either. They're gonNA look for you to to move on or they're gonNA come back to you in turn off because it's like you making too much money so I'm not even worried about the the last four you'd be a. I'm not worried about three or four is survivor deal. I'm not worried about three by how much I don't make the first two years of the deal. Dak Prescott said look what you got on this. You Got Seventy plus million sitting in your mattress. Because I know you've got one we'll go palatial. They'll stay up there. What do you say Harlem Part? That would say how the ranch so I need you to go there by Dallas. Yep will I need you to go back to back bedroom and you could open that mattress and pull out seventy plus million dollars in bring the dog France and we got us a deal wolf to first union. The first two years fully guaranteed you keep forgetting. Everybody has the same size mattress. Everybody has to cut the same simple night and pull out exactly. He does not. He has the exact same size salary. Cap Mattress everybody does and you cut open your mattress and pull out your cash you stash and all of a sudden everybody's cash is going to run out at the same figure because it's capped and the players just read once again to a hard salary cap as opposed to the NBA. Soft Cap. That I it feels like it didn't a cap at all to me scared you know what even even at the cap the problem one of the problems that I have with the CBS. And you know I have many that the mere fact that you feel allow the NFL to attack you do solve hard medium. Doesn't matter Luke warm over eve about the fact that you allowed the NFL. The giants tag. Nobody is not I allow them. The players just voted for it. They ratified that beal new. Cba next right. Yeah me ought to be no. I'm not blaming you. Because here's the thing. Skip a lot of these guys looking. I'll never gonNA be able to get tag so I've never gonna be that one percenter have to worry about this so let me go and collect extra fifty one hundred thousand dollars or whatever they're gonNA get. Whatever the minimum I paid. The minimum salary is going to be six hundred and fifty thousand or something like this book with Dat. Having to wait to the end of his deal having to navigate shark-infested waters and to come out the other side huffing and puffing and so now you say I know you did that and it was great. That nature did that but now we need to give a hometown discount now. That's a non-political okay. I still believed act in his new agent. Todd France or asking for the first two years of forty plus guaranteed. So if you're right if it's thirty five thirty six or somewhere in there guaranteed for the first two years. I'm great with that and I believe Jerry would be great with that. And if somehow they can have a meeting of the minds over five versus or maybe up the the annual just a little bit more for five years. Maybe maybe todd France can say okay. Let's go ahead and give him five because he's giving us a lot more and I know with the new. Tv deal down the pike somewhere. That is going to go up. I got it. I got a new. Dvd still say the out a new TV deal. Hey now eighty me coming. Okay okay. I'm just saying I'm glad I'm glad you're not at the negotiating table and I'm glad they're back. Because I have a real good feeling about a Jerry Jones. Who always says? When have you not known me to get one of these things done? And I've always said well Jerry only now with back. That's the first time in history with the Dallas cowboys. You didn't get one of these deals done. And I think now it's about to happen way to go Jerry Jones Dak Prescott Shannon Sharpe. I am starting to get the feeling that Tom Brady could win his fourth. Mvp next year. With Bruce Arians in Tampa Bay. Could you see that happening when this crowd? They'll go down. You need to go to the drugstore and gift that feeling because that it'll go away what you put in the south on it. 'cause I don't know what you need to stop this just because Tom Brady of going to a new team does not automatically equate to him winning the MVP. I Fox bit got Tom Brady. Eight behind guesses guesses number one mahomes from on the Patrick Mahomes pre-tax did he's like you know what I'm out of here. At the three years I wouldn't league. Mvp with the Super Bowl MVP. I'm done what did he go so now all of a sudden Tom Brady is better than Patrick. Mahomes and what life now. I'm not talking about what he's a copy. You will find. No no general manager no head coach data. Tell you right now. Tom Brady is better than Patrick. Mahomes boy can you say that skill is Tom? Rate about no budgetary It's still my turn. So he's eight. He's he's behind that behind. Walker tool was drew brees Aaron Rodgers. Lamar Jackson is the reigning. Mvp up this notion bay look book and hair. You can guess what happened for all those years. Everybody said he can do more with less now. Guess what Tampa half to do more with less. Because he's not gonNa make those guys better they're gonNA pull his butter for those guys are proven commodities. So this notion Tom Brady you do realize Tampa last year. They were third in scoring third in total offense. This is not like when with the Denver. He took it off. That was twenty fifth and score to number two. None of those guys went to the pro bowl before paying got there and then all of a sudden Demaria Tom of Julius Thomas Air Dicker landed in the pro bowl wild scale. This is a Sha- you ought to be. You ought to be ashamed of yourself skip. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Because the thing is I've never seen anything like distant all my years in all my years of covering football playing the game. I've never seen a guy more protected. You keep talking about the media and everybody protects Lebron. James is nothing like this. I remember Payton manning with broker four hundred yards. They lose the game and nobody would say anything about dungeons deep with there was talking about Peyton. Manning can't win the big one. Tom Brady lose a game. And the first thing you and others like you. Hala where you remember when Bill Defense gave up forty one point well. He had him in position to number two the bad he played last here. You WanNa you. WanNa put everything on the defense. Well I'm happy I'm happy. Just go somewhere. He's happy he feels appreciate it. Nice Sunshine we're hitting warm bottle. But at the end of the day skip he will be forty. Three in those other guys aren't going anywhere and he's not winning the MVP and they're not win the Super Bowl so get that out of your mind. Ha finally you're done and it's my turn not only am. I not ashamed of myself. I am proud of myself for seeing this before. Anyone else has seen this coming. I do believe that Tom Brady is going to win. In the next year. And I'll start with the most obvious facts of all. He is now playing for not one but two offensive masterminds in Bruce Arians and the great. Tom Moore who is now the overseer the advisor to areas and the offense and for those who don't know Tom Moore was Payton's offensive coordinator for all those great years in Indianapolis and obviously Arians is coach. Peyton and Rothlisberger and Andrew Luck and Carson Palmer and on and on and he is a quarterback he's a quarterback Guru. And you just help make my case and I want to thank you for this. Because they did have the third best offense last year with James. Who through thirty three touchdown passes in this offense which was the second most to Lamar in the whole NFL? But unfortunately James does it know the word check down and so James would try to throw every ball as far as he could throw it which resulted in thirty interceptions which led the league by far and five more lost fumble. So that's thirty five total turnovers from Jamus that were twelve more than any other quarterback in the league. So if you clean that up because Tom Brady threw only eight interceptions. Lost only one fumble in New England last year. I don't think he's GonNa turn the ball over much in this offense and then you you add in the fact that areas does love to chuck it and they are going to throw the football maybe at record rates and help me out. Tom Isn't any longer throwing to as I kept saying. Three guys from Dorchester. That he would find. Before every game he'd pick them out in the stands. You you come down here. I'M GONNA Make Stars in this game. He's throwing to four studs. He's so onto to pro bowlers and to Stud tied INS and if you combine cameron -brate Oj. Howard you kind of have a gronk between the two of them. And obviously you've got Mike Evans and obviously you've got Chris God when they made the pro bowl last year for a seven and nine team so now. Tom has four receivers better than any one receiver yet last year. And Again Bruce. Arians was scoffing. Almost laughing at the concept of the doubters. Starting probably with you. Who said Oh well. Tom Might not have the arm for this. Baloney and again Bruce. Arians is saying he threw it great deep last year. And you know the stat that I keep throwing back at you on twenty plus yard throws deeper throws last year into tight windows because the Patriots were last in the League in separation among their receivers on tight window longer throws Brady was tied for first in the NFL. At completing forty one percent of those so watch. What's going to happen this year? And by the way overall twenty plus yard throws into any kind of window brady was forty three percent which did rank seventh in the NFL. Which is pretty good. So all the sudden Aaron's is saying not only can you still throw it deep but aeriens loved what. Tom said the other day when he was asked about this concept of throwing long and Tom said and it was beautiful. The way he explained playing quarterback. Because nobody's ever played quarterback. The Way Brady has brady's Shannon said the other day in his press conference that we talked about yesterday he said that basically and I'm gonNA paraphrase it quarterback just boils down to find the open man if he's open deep you throw it to indeed if these open short you throw it to him short if it's inside inside outside outside it was a beautiful explanation and Arians echoed it and said that was beautiful. What Tom said because he basically was talking about James last year did not know the word. Check down what was Tom. Great at New England not just last year but for twenty years. If a little James Swipe were open for a swing pass and nobody was in the flat covering Thomas say okay. I'll take that because Tom has no big ego about. I gotTA throw it deep so he just dump a James. Swipe I'll take that five yards. Thank you very much in his. The Great Tom as always said second. Nobody has ever gone. Broke says Tom. More putting money in the bank. Nobody's ever gone broke putting money in the bank. Nobody puts money in the bank better than Tom Brady. He'll just take whatever you give him. Being being or boom and I'm just saying I think records might happen next year. I think you might see two thousand and seven next year in Tampa way. Tom showed us when he did Randy. Moss for that one. Big Year back in New England. Go ahead Yeah No. Nobody ever goes broke but putting money in the bank. But I tell you what. You're not gonNA retire early. Putting dollar debate and Bruce area theft no risk it no biscuit so in other words get vanishing. Push the ball down the field. And that's what happened Patriots last year all that dilly dally skill. You don't Kiss Shar. You don't catch great wife and Wales fishing at the shore. You gotta go out deep. And that's what Tom Brady and you keep talking about. All this percentage but if completion percentage with twenty seven his qbr was nineteen on target. Throw this what's his own target now whether or not the ball was on target. Tom Brady was had james. Winston Baker Mayfield May Arruda. Tom Brady was the forth worth own. Target throws says you love numbers. How about those numbers? He was twenty seven yard for him so in other words all he was with baking in Dacca and it wasn't nothing happening bath by. They Straw that in the red zone because once you get down there still the field gift. Condensed you can only check it down so much. Okay you check it out. They give you the three yards. Get off to kick a field goal so all these MVP. So what are you going to do if you scale? I've got to figure out. Peyton was thirty. Seven hundred eleven for offense that the previous year with twenty they go. He goes thirty seven touchdowns Lebanon -ception they go to number two in scoring. He didn't win the MVP. So what is A? What do you say Tom Brady is GonNa have to do? For Five Thousand. Fifty eight touchdown go number. One is going number one in yards last. I checked Tar Heel Travis. Kelsey Miko Miko harding gets slower. Now he might run. He might not run that board three three but he ain't running five six. So homeboy Q. If these guys aren't going anywhere remember Mohamed. Sanu remember how you told me. At the end of the year he was a flat out bust. That's who Bella check in got to help Tom Brady last year because Tom Brady did not have nikiel hairy the stud rookie receiver out of Arizona State for the first eight games and when he finally got to play. He wasn't very good so all Tom Brady had last year was Little Julian Edelman. A shell of himself beat up broken down. He had three injuries going on at one time he led the NFL in drops last year as the number one targeted receiver. For Tom. Brady and again. Tom Had one quality receiver. Antonio Brown for one game. You can throw all those bad numbers at me but again. Tom Brady had this team in position to win the two seed with three guys from Dorchester. Watch what he's going to do now. And by the way speaking of Julian Edelman. There's one name out there. I don't hear anybody talking about and I'm going to bring him up right here right now. His name is Scotty Miller. Remember the name because he was a rookie for the box last year. A sixth round draft choice out a bowling green who has track speed? He ran for three at his pro day. Scotty Miller he's little he's even smaller than element or Amendola were when they played Tom. He's only about five ten one seventy five and I don't know if he can take the pounding. He finally pulled his hamstring in December and they had to shut him down but he did catch twenty balls. I think you're seeing when I can't see a monitor right now. But he caught a couple of touchdown passes from James Caught. Twenty balls and I think Brady is going to love him in the slot in the middle of those two pro bowl receivers in those two tight ends. It's GonNa be hard to stop Shannon hard to stop so remember the name Scott Miller next year so so so let me ask you this. What if it was a situation that that Tom was holding the Keel? Harry and element in those guys back. So we're GONNA find out so now because the procedure is there seem to what you and everybody else is going to. Do you go to say look at Tom. Look at how great time if looking is because those guys are pulling Tom Brady alone. He's not gonNA make if you're gonNA make you make a pro bowl player better. How do you make Chris Godwin? Better Chris Godwin got hurt and I think he missed the last game of the season and was second or third in the league in receiving yards. But he will be old. You see what Tom. Brady's doing Chris. God with Chris Gobelins with that before he got there. So stop it okay but but wait a second. You keep telling me did tyreek retired. Did Nicole Hardman retired drivers? Kelsey that they think they hold up. Stop it oh go ahead. What can I tell you? What would mahomes of done in New England last year? He would have been a disaster with that group. They already he. He'd a lot number was beheaded the paint skill about mistaken. Alex Smith had Thai region. You head Travis Kelsey. How did he ever matter of fact? Did you remember got? He's GonNa be in May he. He looks so good that they would. I drafted when he traded up. Seventeen to get my homeboy. That's how good looking. He traded up seventeen spots to get Patrick homeboy because he knew what he had. Okay now let's talk about why I believe Lebron James has won this year's MVP in the NBA who which is called narrative. It's called storybook story line. It's called Lebron James. Being not only comeback player of the year but also in DP all rolled into one comeback and in and they meshed into another this would be Lebron's fifth. Mvp If in fact he wanted. I believe he was pulling away. I know a lot of the voters have said. We're still sticking with Janas but again that's not a done deal yet but the point was that everybody loved the story of Lebron. Coming from a team in the Lakers that once again missed the playoffs with him last year and remember that was the sixth straight year. The Lakers had missed the playoffs. Which was four more years longer than the Lakers? It ever missed it in a row in their history to in a year in a row was the most. They never missed the playoffs and all of a sudden they've missed it. Six straight years and boom Lebron came back and he came back great. He came back stronger than ever and he lifted them into the number one overall seeds. Five and a half games in the West ahead of the clippers will. That's a great story will. Let's look at what Tom Brady could do here. He's going to the losing his franchise in sports not just in the NFL. In the whole realm of sports no team has been worse over its years than the Tampa Bay. Suchan ears as they're called so tom didn't choose to go to. America's team the Dallas cowboys which at one point. I always get a deal done with that. Okay we'll find but the point is that would cause a little more brady hate you lead the league and Brady. Hey could all of a sudden I'm starting to feel like Brady is becoming a sympathetic figure because people are starting to say wait a second ballot check just random out of New England. He tried to make his life miserable as he could for the last two and a half years so the story line has changed to man maybe. Brady deserves a break here. And he chose the woeful box. Remember the bucks last year. Finished seven and nine. That was six games behind New Orleans in that division. They were six games out really. What if let's just do the what if what if Brady puts up some record numbers and let's say as I think they could bucks flip it around from seven nine to let's say twelve and four and they win the division that that's an MVP story? That'S COMEBACK PLUS. Mvp In quarterback at forty three being able to do that. I love it. I think it's on a silver platter for Tom. Okay Watch this although I'm confused because off this Lebron story or this is the Tom Brady story. Both they're similar. Their plights are similar right. Now there's a third similar noted. Oh no no no. My My guy is the best buy guy is the best player in the NBA. Your guy is not even top five best player in the NFL. Maybe not even top ten. Why you bump them over there so stop okay but my guy and you guys not the goat. It's simple as that guy. I'm really we're putting Lebron and Tom Brady in the same sentence but I was trying to give you or your and show you that. Tom Story at forty three was going to be equal or similar to Lebron's at thirty. What is he thirty six now? Thirty five years seven. Five and thirty five outs feels like he's forty fives. You know whether you know it does no. It doesn't no it does not of it you you keep driving you. Keep trying to of my guy and all he does is just keep proven wrong because all the Snafu that you've got an opportunity to show last year you can't show him that 'cause. My God knows the Lakers. Lost light tape stop. Nobody predicted that the Lakers GonNa have the number one seed I did. I told YOU GONNA win this game. They made me out to build lower plus game daughter say because all of a sudden look. Lebron got help he got. Add this year now. Brady got real help. He got to pro bowlers. Into Stud tight ends. It's the same idea. Ad Stud receivers way to go here. We go but you said what you said was never that guy you said. You have a whole lot of respect right here. Because he couldn't make IT TO THE PLAYOFF UTAH. He was a hundred plus gave on the five hundred. Okay but but he is the P. E. R. Prince. He wins it nearly every year every other year so again. He's a very good player. I don't think he's a fourth order. Blair and I don't think Lebron's fourth order player but that's a whole nother issue. They've been very good. I don't think they're better than the clippers. But we'll see about that if in fact we ever have a finish to the NBA season. And by the way we're going to talk about that in just a minute here but the point is that Tom Brady. Next year is going to be obsessed to stick it to bill. Belichick and to Robert Kraft. He's going to be driven the way he's never been driven and as he said the other day watching film studying tape is what I do. He said I still love it. You didn't love it. You told me at age thirty five. You've just couldn't take the meetings anymore. Well they'll radi lives over the boundaries and for the film. Study okay well. He's he's recharged man. This is great. He needed a new challenge. And I honor him I I am. I'm in awe of doing this bill belichick and has agree with me. It's a race to the super bowl and by the way the Super Bowl will be played in Tampa stadium next year. No home team has ever played in. Its Home Stadium in a super bowl. So he's got that going for him. Tb IN TB. I love it. I'm sorry I mean rate shot a winning. Mvp says you. And by the way speaking of you Mr Sharp yesterday I brought up. The fact near the end of a debate was Shannon. Sharpe about Lebron may be winning a championship. This year would be his four championship. And I said it would be tainted in. Shannon flat-out lost. His mind will stay tuned because Shannon's about to lose his mind next year on undisputed minds just mentioned yesterday near the end of the debate. I just happen to throw out to my man Shannon. Sharpe that you know. What if Lebron James Does win a championship this year? Which would be his fourth. It's going to feel like it was tainted like it will deserve an asterisk. Obviously the season has been shortened Shannon. Lost it at that moment and we didn't really have time to finish so I allowed my man Shannon to sleep on it last night and see if a cooler heads would prevail today so Shannon. Do you feel as strongly now as you did yesterday about no asterisk for this season? If Lebron wins the championship they are not GonNa be no ASTERIK scared. You need to stop this you keep on trying to undermine the man performance now when Tim Duncan won his title nine Hundred Ninety nine after the rebate or season. Nobody said anything about the asteroid. But let me tell you I'm gonNA come a little more future. You realize Lebron I title with a shortened season where the Asterik now all of a sudden we with total mess with the West. All who'll be bad west. Lebron could never do what he's doing in the. What if doing the easy could never do that? And now he's in the West we're method with the rest of the West. Have a matter of fact we're methane over the West now all of a sudden you WanNa try to find a way. We're GONNA win the title. There's nothing you or anybody else can do about it. And we'll leave no doubt in anyone's mind that we're the goal. We been go for like the last three years. But all we're doing is we don't like to use that term because we're still played. People want us to wait to our careers over and they can evaluated properly but I- waiting that loan we the goat right now. We're GONNA win the title of this year and we're going to repeat next year. Okay I up my man. Tim Duncan the great. Tim Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs. May they rest in peace? What's left of them but Tim? Doug obviously a coach on that bench sitting next to coach Popovich. Maybe he'll take over next year. I don't know but the point is Tim Duncan one five rings. He was five and go in. Nba Finals and remember he lives. Thanks rings for Ray Allan Allan Allan again. I'm disqualifying what happened. Because Ray cost him that one with the greatest collect shot. I've ever seen took Lebron off the hook. We'll get to that in just a moment but the point was I have never said that. Tim Duncan was even in the same ballpark with Michael. Jeffrey Jordan. I have never made the case that Tim was the goat. Obviously Michael is the goat. Everybody but you. And maybe a billion blind witnesses out there things. That Jordan is the goat but the point is five rings with one that was tainted. I'm going to give you that. Because that year. Nine Thousand Nine Hundred Ninety Nine. They played only fifty gains. Will they did play a full playoffs at the end of it. So you gotta give them that but but it was only a fifty game season and I'm so happy you brought this up because if you didn't I was Lebron's I ring is is a little tainted because they didn't play the first game that year in two thousand twelve until Christmas Day so that was only a sixty six game season. Not Bad but will I got that but again right now. They're stuck on sixty three and I'm not sure how many more games we're going to have if in fact we're going to have any more games but but again sixty six a little more than fifty but but there's a tiny astor's there because they didn't have to fight it out and Lebron didn't have to spend himself over eighty two games so maybe got a little break there. But I'm not going to hold that against you this year. I would hold against you because to me and we don't know this but if we do have playoffs. What if they're abbreviated? What if this year? The first round of the playoffs has to be best two out of three. What if the subsequent rounds all the way through the finals have to be best three out of five right five game series so to me that gives Lebron a huge break and as I tried to explain to yesterday? A huge break over the clippers who. I think their biggest threat to this year's championship. Run and the clippers got thrown together. They threw together at the trade deadline. Right around it. The buyout deadline bait. They got Marcus Morris. And then Reggie Jackson. They're both high volume shooters ball dominant players so they needed wraps they needed to be able to play out the regular season just to get to know each other and all of a sudden. Obviously it stopped cold. I don't know they play a few regular season games or even preseason games to get ready for the the playoff run. It's going to be different to the point that it's going to be tainted in. It's huge advantage Lebron. Because I do think he made a great run at MVP. And I do think it took a lot out of that year seventeen body and I do think he was on the precipice of danger zone of injury and they kept saying. He's got some kind of a groin issue last year. He pulled his groin and wasn't really the same after Christmas Day and they missed the playoffs so this gave him a chance to heal completely up obviously quite got arthritic knees so there's some advantage there for him but as I told you yesterday Lebron got to play fifty three games together this year and Kawai and Paul George only thirty two games fifty three to thirty two so it's already huge advantage to the Lakers and now if you stop the season cold and then you say let's start the playoffs. They're already they know each other. Their chemistry is pretty established. In fact you're making the case. They were rolling. Well they can pick it right back up and roll through an abbreviated playoffs to a cheapened. Ring go ahead so let me get straight if so if Kawhi Championship. Tiny of he manage last year. He missed winning games in the regular season. So anybody that with the title failure all season if no no no no no this year if they don't play the full compilation of game. So this means the anybody Jaanus Kuwa- Lebron anybody so it gives Lebron if they win this year. Anyone that wins the ring this year. The ring would be compromised. Is that what you're telling me? Absolutely yes Sir period end of story. It's it's going to be remembered as the Cova Nineteen title or the Ronin Championship. It just is. I mean what we're all having to fight through. Now you know it and I know it and again no. It's starting to feel like a long shot that we're even GONNA get to finish but if they do figure out a way to finish you know and I know it's abbreviated it's it has to be. I don't know how it's going to be there. Could even be one game first round playoffs? Just do or die ball. No no no no good be. They're not going to be there may be. We may be forced to do that. And and I'm sorry it would be just so fitting if Lebron finally won his fourth ring to move to form six in the finals. And everybody would sit back and say you know. It's just not the same way to go. Lebron Bodo the sorry well. Guess what everybody's raised on. That rain won't have it. Might it might have to have a little white mask on it. Just a little mask is everybody's got a with a mask right now right so it might have a little fast. I don't know it's it's not the same. I'm sorry in point this out again to all those blind witnesses. If Ray Allen doesn't hit that greatest clutch shot ever taking Lebron off the hook. He's two and seven in the finals and I remind everybody in that game six with a two thousand thirteen finals. Lebron had the shot to tie the three point shot and he did and he liberated so badly off back iron that it bounded long out to Chris. Bosh within sweetly kicked it into the corner to Ray Allen who got his feet by the line and ripped it as clean as you can rip it to tie the score and send it over time and that took Lebron off a huge hook. He would be to an seven and man. Three and six sounds a lot better than two and seven to me. So congratulations. We're about to be with eight and we'RE GONNA win next year. We'll be five six. We'll be five and six and eleven. How about that? You'll be like four and a half in sits this is. This is the real deal really. Quick note one bid of very good news out there among all the relentless bad news on the NFL. Front Sean. Payton coach obviously the saints said. Yesterday he was cleared after he tested. Positive a couple of weeks ago. So congratulations to you coach now onto our next. Nfl debate topic yesterday after the show. I happen to glance at twitter at the trending topics in the United States. Usually they're bad bad bad bad bad and I noticed that the number one trending topic was moss. I clicked on that to see what was happening. And somehow debate had detonated Randy Moss or Jerry Rice. Who was the greatest and I think it detonated? Because Minnesota had just acquired a distant relative of Shannon sharps named Taj Sharp. And somehow fever that we're all experiencing right now. Boom a debate had launched. Which brings us to right here right now. And I'm going to ask the hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe who you got. Who WAS BETTER JERRY? Rice Randy Moss for me. Look and I've gotten to and people go back and forth. I think the three greatest receivers of all time and I put them in. This order. Order has not changed Jerry. Rice in a class by himself. Is Jerry by himself. I got T. O. And I got randy but I put -til second skip is not even close when you look at Jerry's numbers compared to randy okay. So now titled Matter I Thought Championships Matter because Jerry has three red has none so going to disqualified it so titled Don't Matter Anymore Rally with the six pro bowl share with thirteen. Jerry will the ten time Earth theme. All pro. Randy was a four time earth team. All Pro Jerry led the league in receiving yards. Sixth time random off never did that skip. Stop there's I think what happened. Is that because skipped we see this thing going on. Espn had the top sixty four minute. Women play the them all the time. And you and I both know the greatest college basketball player to ever live with Kareem Abdul. Jabbar he was lew alcindor. Then he later became Kareem Abdul Jabbar. He got upset in round of thirty two stopping people. Forget I happen to be Jerry Enough Pride. I came in the League five years after Jerry. I saw read the in his Brad. Skip is not close. See here's the thing if you're going to be the goat you can't have caveats ill if randy played hard if they did this there. Too many elves caveat ready with great no question about it but Jerry. Rice visit a class by himself. He have already or more receiving touchdown. A- probably about eight nine thousand more receiving yards six hundred catches. How on the what metric would you use? The Ramos was better than Jay writes. If you look at stats if you look at accolade you look at whatever longevity skill you know this Jerry Rice at a hundred and forty yard receiving game and the age of forty two random ause laugh yard game with in two thousand nine thirty two skill thinking for second J. You got that one hundred forty against the cowboys to skip to know that when you play with Seattle I know. The skill does Oakland County if Oakland on his resume J. that on if that'll randy moss his resume is the second return to Minnesota. If the Tennessee titans is that on his resume Jerry went to the pro bowl ever receiver with twelve hundred plus yard at the age of forty. Stop this already. Know what we have this discussion Jerry. Rice skip I'll make an I can make a case that Jerry is the greatest football player. Forget reliever but somebody in his class as far as receiving it's not even close it's not even close and that's disrespectful to Randy -til any other fiba but if Jay Wright is the greatest receiver does not close close. And I'm going to tell you why I think most people out there in twitter land a lot of people who watch both of these players closely these great receivers closely through the the prime of their careers and obviously Jerry's prime with way longer than Randy's crime but they know that in a vacuum you're looking at a randy. Moss who ran a four to forty. Jerry fell in the draft to the forty niners because he ran four six. Obviously he runs real fast rain real fast with the football under his arm but four to versus for six and as you know randy played at six feet four inches tall six four with great not good hands great. Stick on the hands with no stick on him like he was born with. Stick them fingers. He made great catches effortlessly. I did see Jerry dropping occasional ball. I did see Jerry. Get Down on himself on the sideline occasionally and obviously honor. Jerry's greatness so I'll I'll summit up you this way Shannon. I've never seen anything like Randy Moss on a football field when I watch Jerry. He was just so textbook. Great that it looked effortless. It looked like he wasn't even trying to run routes so in the end. If you push me to the brink on this if you say I got one game for my life I want Randy. Moss my go-to receive if you say. Yeah but if if I have listened listen if I have one year and you say you have to go win this championship for your life this year. And you gotTa do it in Nineteen Games. Let's say I want Jerry Rice because I know he's going to give me everything. He has every play but one game for my life. I'm not out of my mind I'm going to. I'm going to take Randy Moss scale. You do realize jerry writes average eight catches for forty two in two touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Do they get any bigger than that? You see again. You have to preface it. Did you ever worry about rent? Jay writes playing hard. Did you ever see Jerry Rice? Walk off the field before the game was over. No did you ever see that you see here. Exactly that's the thing and ready was historically great but when you talk about boar career not only Jerry play longer. He played logam batter. Would you take the year that that already had which broke their record? You do realize Jerry. Rice called twenty two touchdowns in twelve games. Not Twenty Three Sixteen because twenty to twelve. Yes I get I get the highlight and you got malls but it's not close. There's nothing we've never seen anything like Jerry. We're not going to see it again. We're not going to see it again. We're not gonNA see a receiver. Play that loan away that whale. Here's what you're missing Jerry. Rice and I covered many of these games. He got to play for Joe Montana and he got to play for Steve Young and he got to play for Jeff Garcia who made four pro bowls and then he went to Oakland speaking of Oakland and he got to play with the rich Gannon. Who made four pro bowls in one the one year Jerry Rice in two thousand and two so? He was blessed with his quarterback. Run while look what happened to randy moss he had Randall Cunningham. Not Not bad. I mean he made some pro bowls in his time and then he was going back and forth in those first couple of years. There was Brad Johnson. There was Jeff George. There was some Randall Cunningham. Then he got Dante culpepper. Dante's very good a loved him. I pushed that year for the bears to take him and they didn't and they should have. They took cade mcdown and that was an all time mistake. But if you look at Dante culpepper or are we talking about Montana or young? No he was just a very hall of fame. Type Player scare. But you can't scale we can do. We can do that with any so are we going to disqualify Joe Montana being great because he had all those years. Are we going to disqualify a troy for being good because he had imminent his backfield? No we can't do you disqualifier. You can't do that. Look at the numbers the line gameplay nine hundred doing it okay okay. Yeah talking about. He had to go. Tom Brady. Why did he win a title? He had four years to go. Why did he will try to go? He he should have you know. I know it if he had won on talk. Radio seven cannot talk. Let me speak now. Let me finish one year with thousand seven. What happened? What happened Randy? Moss caught twenty. Three touchdown passes that year. And Guess WHO's record? He broke Jerry. Rice's he had Tom Brady for one great year and he caught twenty three touchdown passes. I don't care how many games it took. He did that. And then they go for nine thousand nine hundred win the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter right on time. Tom Brady drives eighty yards down the field for what should have been the game. Winning drive he throws a short pass to Randy Moss for a touchdown that put them up. What was it fourteen to ten at that point. And here he li- manning and you know what happened on third and forever ally who had no mobility avoids three wheels around puts his hand over his eyes and flings it as far as he can into trouble into the middle of the Field Rodney Harrison. A great safety completely misplaced the ball and tyree manages to stick it is face mask. It took the luckiest throw in the history of the Super Bowl. Even according to ally Manning who agreed with me on that famous for allied to pull out that victory over Tom an Randy Moss. So if if Eli doesn't pull off that play Randy. Moss has a ring and Randy. Moss is a made man and we might not even be having this discussion. But you gotta give okay. What did catch with two minutes? Left the game winning touchdown pass Jerry call eight to vote never played a game in which he caught two. But that's not here. No coach is down in every super bowl. But that's not here nor there. What happened in Oh nine. Was He now with Tom? Brady no not with not with Tom. Brady and teams. But he was four years earlier when he goes south he started shoebox system and finally bell check just dumped him remember. He dumped him. I got it yes I remember. Just Remember Yeah. Okay so what happened. One game that I covered at the end of the nineteen ninety four season at candlestick park. Maybe the greatest. No Not Maybe. It was the greatest individual matchup. I ever witnessed. It was Michael Irvin on Dion Sanders for the whole game because the cowboys fell behind. Twenty one to three and here they went troy through twenty six passes at Michael. That game but Michael caught twelve of them on the on one hundred ninety two yards. Meanwhile Jerry Rice and that game caught two balls for thirty six yard really two balls for thirty six. Michael just showed him up in that game. And I've always told you I'm still taking Michael. I want him in my Foxhole as the greatest receiver Jerry Rice even just in time for that right now no well no he would know off camera. He was Jerry. Rice gave his prime numbers is ninety one to ninety eight numbers head to head with Jerry. Rice is better. I'm sorry they just were not withhold conversation for another day. You sorry okay. I got ninety one to ninety eight receptions for first down Michael. 531 Michael Irvin Jerry. Four sixty seven. How about fourth quarter receiving yards and close game seven points or closer Michael? A thousand thirty receiving in the fourth quarter to eight sixty eight jerry. Rice I can go on and on. He had better big game clutch numbers than Jerry Rice because he was the fillet maker. I'll take him big picture long-term over Jerry Rice but one game for my life. I'm sorry I'd take Randy Moss and I think you would to your heart's no no absolutely not. Why Gay for my life. I'm taking Jerry. I'M TAKING IMPRINT JERRY. Over any player. I'll take Jerry at thirty over eighty player. I'm not taking a like. I said Randy had an unbelievable career. But you have to understand skill before my brother came alone. Jerry had his stranglehold on the NFC. I mean as far as yard reception touchdown. It was my brother. My brother to interrupt that because he led the League in receiving three times he led the league touchdown. Lead the League in yard before that Jerry. Strong the whole the NFC skill you headed west coast offense ride West Coast Jet Bill Walsh offense. Your brother was playing in it. Yes yes okay. Randy was playing he scale. He got he got. He got that he got that He got the West Coast the last three years report. Their Linda involuntary it was when Mike. Got Their Ninety two. Because you obviously came from San Francisco by got ninety two if when it went to the west coast but you do realize Brian Billick. They had the number scoring offense and football brambilla office with up and down the field. That's what really got a couple of years. Go by US because Randy Moss was electrifying. We will agree to disagree on this debate. Now I cannot wait to hear Shannon Sharpe reaction on this one Fox bet as the over-under on Tampa Bay's wins next year at nine. I'm going twelve and four for the box next year so Shannon Shar as your Brady. Hey kicked in. What are you looking at next year for the box aid? Nate what you got still he even before Fox Bit. Put out there what they thought the over under would be. What did I tell ya? Se looks like ten six. Maybe eleven and five. I'll go over but I'm GONNA say tenants six. I'll give him six really shot. You know even before even put him back because they I. They had a half an hour. I guess they're down to nine but I just I'm like okay. They went seventy nine with James. I mean they could turn over here there. They take care of the football. They could easily extra couple of games. But I'M GONNA go ten and six but they're not gonNA win their division. This is not going to wear save. Got Better now. They got Emmanuel Sanders. Camaro with Mike Thomas will. You can't double team him. Jared Gay I like this. I like this. I'm sure you're GONNA love them. They're going to be your team next. You're GonNa Leap on another bandwagon out of all right by my art with the fact you might. Let's start with the fact. The box did re signed sue yesterday for eight million which I thought was kind of a steel of the deal for one year. I'm going to remind everybody the bucks defense last year was number one against the Ron L. Work they were seventh and sacks in the NFL because Shaq Barrett was number one in sacks in the NFL and drew the third. Yeah that'll work. Sued drew the third most double teams in the NFL behind. Aaron Donald and Kenneth Clarke of the packers which helped Shaq Barrett. And now. You've got Subic is a force in the middle which might free up a little more room for a Levante. David ranked by pro football focus last year. The third best linebacker in the NFL. Wow that will work. And I've told you Todd Bowles I love him as a coordinator. I didn't love Todd. Bowles as a head coach the jets obviously but he is a very good maybe bordering on great defensive coordinator so what happened last year to the bucks defense. It faced the toughest slate of opposing offenses inherited the worst average starting field position in the whole. Nfl why was that because Jay through thirty interceptions and lost five. Fumbles so that means thirty five times. There were sudden changes. Where I'll we gotta get back on the field because James turned it over again. He turned it over twelve more times than any other quarterback in the league. I think that's going to change with Tom Brady. So all of a sudden the defense was forced to defend a hundred eighty nine. What are called meaningful possessions which was tied for most in the whole? Nfl Shannon you know and I know that unit had to be worn out and worn down mentally thought physically because they just had to keep going back and going back and trying to clean up. Jameson mess and this year. I think they're going to look a lot better than they did. Even last year when they were decent especially over the last six games so I think people are underestimating. How good the bucks defense will be and we know how good the offense is going to be your thought yet. The offense the defense should be better for the simple facts. Give bishop half the faith have lift possessions on the football field. James did a disservice to them by putting them. In harm's way a lot of times they were getting picked sex or they were getting short field. Even if you had a lot of the end zone there were kicking field goal so just by that alone and that's why that's why. Winterton wins for the simple fact. Tom Brady on his worth will not turn the football over as much as James Dead. Even on his were his worst season. He's Never GonNa Habits. Probably half as many sections as what? James had laughter. James had thirty so I think Tom Brady most. Probably in the season maybe fifteen or sixteen. I don't see that happening. Foretold equate to fourteen okay so even even on his his first year he only had half as many interceptions as James had on on his worth year. So with that being said skift I will give them three extra wins. I'M GONNA say they're attended six. Okay so I'll leave you with four. I did I got twelve and four James through seven. Pick Six's last year. Brady had six in his last ten years so so the pick six are killers for the psyche of a football team. So yeah that's a big plus big plus okay. So let's look at the overall odds from Fox bet the bucks are tied with Carson Winston Eagles for the six best odds to win the Super Bowl at eighteen to one which is pretty good. So that's that's why I I still think they're being a little under us. Made it but so the eagles by the way our eighteen in one and the cowboys are sixteen to one so sixteen to one is better than eighteen to one so white Fox bet says. My cowboys are better than the eagles going into next year. Just two quick point of order within that but I don't need all I know who the reigning division champion the. I just need to know a year ago. It was Dallas and he won the seat. Okay well you ask and I answered. Okay back to the buccaneers. I haven't heard anybody mentioned this when I talk about winning twelve games. Let's look at their slate of Non Division Games we know. Who's in the division we know? GotTa play the Saints Twice. Those are going to be like. Nfc Games of the year Tampa Bay versus New Orleans. But let's look at if we can the home non division games in the road non division. Well at home right they do have green bay. It's tough and obviously didn't come Kansas City. It's really tough. But at least it's at Tampa and then Minnesota's pretty tough. You don't know about the chargers quarterback situation the rams might not be quite the rams but again those are home non division the roads. These aren't that bad to me. They got at Chicago at Detroit. Net Denver at Las Vegas Raiders and Add New York giants. Okay Chicago Detroit. Denver raiders giants. I don't know I could see Brady. Pull it off winning. I don't know for those get. Maybe five of those games. That's why I say the schedule is not that tough for next year's bucks. That's why I say that. That twelve wins is within the realm of reachable. Possibility because of the schedule you know the home games there are a couple free tough ones. I get that but again. You're at home and you got Tom Brady. I don't know I'm I'm looking at twelve and I'm actually proud of you that you went all the way to ten. I said eleven. Now you've backed off a little bit too. I love you always want to take the high end. I can see tears six. I could see living in five but I like Tennessee t I like I like Nice Round Number. Ten even six even. Yeah like that. Okay so I made the case early in this show that I like Brady. I love his chances to win. Mvp next year. And if you tell me the days turn it around seven and nine to ten in six says Shannon Sharpe. That's that's a potential MVP. I got twelve. That's a real shock because hollow skill you do realize Peyton. Manning took eight football team with thirteen and three win from twenty fifth is going to to scored and then when the MVP which in Denver you're talking about right in Denver. Yes his first year in Denver in two thousand twelve. Yeah okay do realize that right a second okay but Tibo had just taken a one in four broncos team all the way to the Division Championship in one playoff game against Ben Rothlisberger. So you had little legacy left there right. There were some. There was no mitten. So you can't do that. You can't disqualify Great Tim. Tebow am I right. You're about the man had a legacy that we will star. John elway had a legacy not WanNa have the legacy soda. Tim Tebow will tim. Tibo had won National Championships at Florida when he got his chance when they were one in four call Bom. You saw what happened. They they went crazy. They came from one in four to win the championship of the Division. Tim Tibo had a season elway. Manning had legacy. I need you to stop the full scale emission. They said Tim Tebow down before his biography. It didn't it skipped Betas. So he's GonNa make it to the majors does not look like that talking about Tibo. We talked about that with that. We don again. He made the All Star team at AA. He was at AAA LAST YEAR. And he got hurt. No nobody is ever done what he has. Starting the sport of baseball at age thirty. Nobody's done that. He hadn't played since he was a junior in high school. And he went on the. All Star team at number lying an order in order for this to be an order for this door to be turned into a book or movie. He has to make the majors. You don't get to start something at thirty if there's Okay. I'm starting visit thirty. And then all of a sudden it doesn't follow through and they make a movie about it. It doesn't happen Rudy. Actually Rudy had rudy became a gory was rudy. Got Into the game could be no Rudi. Rudi walks on it. Never feel so another for you to have this story book movie or Book Ending. He needs to make it to the majors. Okay and I still believe you will. Maybe later in the year. In fact there is baseball. It should have been opening day today. But maybe they'll have a season and maybe at the end of the year he'll be called up to the mets and maybe he'll get the big hit that wins the division for the New York. That's just the way he wanted. For Your Denver broncos there has been growing speculation that may be cam. Newton could land in New England in place of Tom. Brady even Kurt Warner brought it up yesterday on. Nfl Network as an intriguing option for CAM and for coach. Belichick Shannon Sharpe. Can you see that happening coach? Take a tendency skip of taking guys that people don't believe will fit in his system or fit with him Guys that's been given up on. You saw what he did with random. All he saw what he did record dylan skipped. He just has a way of getting guys in there that that were good. Great at one place they fall out of favor for whatever reason they come there and they re you know they get around and and they get reinvigorated they get rejuvenated and all of a sudden you like. Wow so could I see it happening? Shore now my odds on favorite. Km ends up here in La. That's what I think but without be surprised if coach. Belch did something like this. I would be surprised at all also wouldn't be surprised to camp late Extremely well like I said skippered. I hate using caveats. If everything's GonNa be predicated shoulder all tied together give a like. I said for the longest time cam tried to play through. These injuries is mechanic INC and camp. Hansell mechanical problems. But when you try to play through injuries it makes your mechanic looking worse and where he never really stepped grown. Everything seemed to be off his back foot. Where you can't put any pressure on your front flip because you got a foot injury and your shoulder is messed up. Well you exacerbate the problem. That's already there so could I see it happening? Yeah but I give it like ten fifty percent chance of it actually happening. I don't know could I go ten percent? I gotTa Tell Shannon. I cannot see this happening like you said Bell check loves to buck the system. He loves to say watch. This look what I can do with that bad actor that that baggage of that player watch how can eliminate that baggage but the players. He's taken who were considered the problem children elsewhere. You Know Randy Moss even they drafted Aaron Hernandez obviously and Ainsworth accord deal and keep to leave. There was an chat. Ocho CINCO Josh Gordon. Everybody even Antonio Brown this last year for one game. All those players were receivers or running backs or defensive players but none of them the position. The leadership position of quarterback again bell check could get away with it because he had Tom Brady in his locker room to police the culture that I believe Tom Brady mostly built so tom could say to all those quote unquote bad actors. Hey I love you man but this is the way we do it here. Coach can be a little talk. He's going to get on you in film sessions and in practice but you just got to swallow it. Just bite your tongue and look the other way because we're going to win a whole bunch of in we're going to go win the championship in so all said basically okay. I trust you Tom. Yeah here we go. Let's let's try to do this together. Well Cam to me look. I love him. I endorsed him as the first overall pick and I told you I loved what he did. Little Bit Florida. A lot at blend loaded auburn and then a whole lot all the way up through his. Mvp Year in Carolina which was in two thousand fifteen. But Cam has more of a solo act than Brady was or is camps a lot of divinity and we're we've seen wilder and wilder outfits and hairstyles and he's unto himself and I just don't think he's quite the natural born leader. That Brady was so he's he's actually kind of the antithesis of Tom. Brady and I don't know that he could be anything for New England but the starting quarterback he's he's not going to walk in and hold a clipboard. While while jared stem tries to figure it out you know. They've got Brian Hoyer. They as soon as the colts cut him. They said boom. Let's bring him back now. Brian Hoyer on his tenth stop in the NFL. So He's the bridge. He's the mentor for Jared Studio. Most people are reporting in New England. That stadium's going to be the guy whether stood him likes it or not. So he's a fourth round. Pick so I got my brady says bell check. I bring you six but I got a fourth rounder. Here who can be my next Brady will go as the backup is the plan B as the case of no he's not world that way we're is aura is too big. His presence is too big bigger. You know about code code militating. Promise you anything you compete. I'm not coming you know coming here and I'm promising you a job you go compete and you earn the job. It's a week to week thing. If you play good you keep job if you don't. I'm going to have somebody to replace you. That's how this competition. That's how coach. Sabin learn the COACHELLA coachella check. And it's like you play good. You got your job for another week if you don't you lose your job and so that's a lot of reader while players Gopro early. If the guy is behind him is going to come back. They're going to lose their job to that guy so I might as well make some money. Yeah well in New England you can see the Netflix going out the building. So you have to play your best. He keeps you on edge in that way. Keeps you motivated because someone is trying to get your job? Your job is not promised to you. So if you don't play your best you don't have your job the next week. Got It which I still believe is why cam would not be a good fit for bell. Check in New England now and again I. I like your idea. The chargers but they have the sixth overall pick in the draft. I'm pretty sure they're going to take a quarterback. I don't know which one but whoever that quarterback is will be fast track to be the next starting quarterback so they have tyrod Taylor. I know he pronounce that tyrod. But also tyrod and we both like tyrod. But he ain't Cam Newton and yeah ams better than tyrod. Yeah I'm with you. I got it but is would tyrod be a better bridge quarterback and a better mentor for. I don't know Jordan love if they took him with the six overall. Yeah he probably would be is. Cam a mentor type. Brett Farve was not a mentor for Aaron Rodgers. Just not how rent was built so so. I got it you quarterbacks of Cam. They don't Joe. Montana was not trying to get Steve Young rating rand. Paul was not trying to get Aaron Rodgers. Ready be even be in business. I'm not trying to get this guy ready to take my job so it's a lot it's a lot of tyrod started in the NFL every backup so his okay a lot different than a guy with a number one overall pick and it will been the guy since day one. Okay so I gotTA remind everybody just to wrap this up that cam won the MVP in two thousand fifteen and then over the last four years in Carolina four years combined he led the NFL in interceptions with forty three. His QBR was thirty first over the last four years of the forty qualified quarterbacks in the NFL his starting record over the last four years in Carolina was twenty three and twenty three and to your point to shoulder surgeries in the list. Frank injury to his foot last year. I don't know man. It's it's a lot to ask in some team. Doctor is going to have to say okay. I sign off on Cam. And we're going to have to wait and see which team would even sign off on him to clear him medically what a great day this van here on undisputed especially for me as a lifelong Dallas Cowboys Fan. We opened up with the news. That Dak Prescott back at the negotiating table with Jerry Jones which means I believe a deal as eminent. Yes thank you God for that and I was actually saying. Thank you God in a little big way yesterday because I thought the Dallas cowboys made a great little big pickup. Yesterday of a young man named Blake Bell Way to go a steal of a deal at one point seven million dollars a year Shannon Sharpe for Blake Bell because I loved him at the University of Oklahoma where he was known as the bell. Dozer Bell Dozer because when it was fourth and goal from the one or third and short at the fifty. Guess what you could just line him up as a single solo back. He was a quarterback. Then snap a to him a lead him bell does. He scored twenty four rushing touchdowns at the University of Oklahoma. That's fantasy dream right there. He also through twelfth touchdown passes and he caught four which made him an. Nfl tied end at six feet six inches and about two hundred sixty pounds. He did catch a touchdown. Pass from your man. Muhammad boy that epic Comeback In the playoff game against Houston. And if you combine bell dozer who can be an excellent blocker with Blake Jar One? Who's more of a wide receiver of tied end? You put those two together. I think you have Jason Witten. So Shannon Sharpe Balbo strike again with Bell Dozer Way to go when you breezes is a great pickup yes still stop this skill blake. Bail does not move the needle. This is nothing you make. It seem like they signed. George Kill Travis Kelsey Fish Guidon. No-one knows outside of you because he played in Oklahoma. Yeah I knew he was on the Roster Kansas City yes I was well aware that he caught a touchdown against the against the Texans in that comeback. Yet because give this doesn't move the needle. He's like he's like the daddy eight breath tight end and all the football. What will wait a second? He actually got to compete in. San Francisco is a fourth round draft choice with Kennel. I know he didn't exactly win the job. And he wound up getting caught with him again. Okay okay think about this. The to Blake's blight versus Blake Bell versus Jr and with Jarwan combined. You Got Jason Witten because Blake Bells a really excellent two hundred sixty pound block or so you can use them as a six locker along the line like they did win last year. I love this kid. The difference is that when you bring bring Blake Bell until the game. They know it's going to be a run. Nobody's they're not throwing them passes jar within the game they know what's going to be roughly rupture Shannon Sharpe. We're out of time once again and I'm sorry because I had so much to say about this but remember we are back on tomorrow. Ten to noon eastern here on Fox sports one lease stay safe and most of all please state.

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Sean McVay, Bill Belichick, Charles Barkley, Lakers, and the Cowboys

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Sean McVay, Bill Belichick, Charles Barkley, Lakers, and the Cowboys

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Here we go to Friday. This is the heard wherever you may be in. However, you may be listening. We are live in Los Angeles. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio and right here on f s one joy Taylor is joining me one hour from now my blazing five reduced blazing one on the Bank mind Super Bowl pick LAN out for your joy. How are you eight citing as a lot going on? There is a there is a lot of NBA stop. There's a lot of NFL stuff. We'll go back and forth today on this. I wanna start here though, before I get to the NBA stuff. And I've got a lot of NBA stuff to talk about today on the phone texting talking last twenty four hours. Let me start with this though, Sean McVay is thirty three years old. That is half the age of Bill Belichick who sixty six he is the hot new Boy Genius. And he is earned all of it. He is sharp. He is fun. He is smart. He is relatable. And when you put the resumes next, Bill Belichick whole, wait a minute dead. They're not they're not close. I mean, not really even close. Sean McVeigh has two wins that anybody in this league historically would care about he beat the Cowboys off a bye at home. Got a few calls any beat the saints on the road and got a big call. Now, I do think the Rams are better than both of those teams. But that it two wins that we love. In the NFL to anoint the next dynasty anybody seen Philadelphia. This week. Anybody seem eagles. I can't can't wa-. They're they're nowhere to be found. That's because what happened to Philadelphia's. What happens virtually everybody not named the patriots? I wanna remind you something about the Los Angeles. Rams. They are in a division. That's really good. And getting better San Francisco. Kyle Shanahan Jimmy Garoppolo Seattle Pete Carroll. Russell wilson. They've already locked in three of their stars big boy money Aaron Donald Todd Gurley and Brandin cooks in oh, by the way, girlie showing signs of wear and tear. They're going to eventually pretty soon. Here have to pay Jared Goff. A lot of money will limit who they can sign and obey the way their offense of line is old and getting really old fast. And I want to remind you. Of the four franchises. We were. Absolutely sure that we're going to take over this league. The Saint Louis Rams and Kurt Warner fastest show on turf. And who ended their dynasty New England the Seattle Seahawks. Russell that defense. Delegion a Bom who ended that dynasty? The New England Patriots. Pittsburgh Steelers are getting big bend getting Super Bowls, and who has really ended that dynasty haven't been there in seven years to the Super Bowl the New England Patriots. And Peyton Manning was going to wreck this league. Member colts go to like ten Super Bowls eight he won one Super Bowl in Indianapolis. Why four for four the New England Patriots? They are favored they are more experienced. They are going to reload Brady played his best game in years against the chargers. They're probably most believed going to win Sunday. And it should be noted. They've got a big edge in this game. The two wide receivers for the Rams one's a former patriot. And the patriots best corner guarded the other one Robert woods for four years in buffalo. We love to anoint the next dynasty four of them have all ended due to Bella check and Brady. All right. Let's say Guay into this. Oh, lordy. Lordy. Lordy next. Thursday's the NBA trading deadline, and you and I know the NBA is changing these days players have more power. But it should be noted. It's been a players league since I started watching it in nineteen seventy two it was a players league. Then it really was coaches didn't get fired as often, but they got fired will didn't Jerry West didn't Elgin Baylor didn't k- it's always been a players leak. Well yesterday. Oh today. There's a lot of stuff freaking people out. Anthony Davis has said I wanna be a Laker in play with a great player. Ooh. That's never happened before a it's happened. A million times porzingas wasn't happy with the Knicks. And so he went to very aggressive owner of the Dallas Mavericks, Mark Cuban. And now the Knicks have the availability for two stars in free agency. That's that's bad. Kyrie Irving said this morning. I don't know anybody anything. I don't know the Celtics anything and people are freaking out because Kyrie Irving doesn't. Oh, the spelt Dick's anything. Charles Barkley was on TV last night. He is beside himself. Adam several need to block that tree. Why I don't like what? The Lakers are doing. I don't think is right. I don't put the Lakers. Yes. I don't think. What did they do? We're collusion. No. Is collusion. Let's say some Rich Paul got mad at me because I said a month ago. Oh, the fixes in the Dave is going to the Lakers. He didn't like me saying to fix was in. There has been in. I don't I think commissions darn he who I like a lot. Did you come out says, hey, we can treat Anthony Davis? But he cannot go to the leaker. We cannot have players in ages colluding to set the stack super team what timeout. Timeout my entire life. And I've said this one hundred times. Agents and shoe companies and stars have controlled this league. What's different? Now. What's different is? Lebron is friends with Rich Paul and the billionaires don't like it. But folks, if you're in your twenties and thirties, you don't know who David Falk is or Arn Tellem. They ran this league for three decades. David Falk was so powerful they called him the invisible hand in union negotiations the NBA had a lockout. And then ended a lockout and David Stern and David Falk were controlling it. He was an agent Arn Tellem had shack and had Kobe and David Faulk had Michael Jordan, and he had Iverson any had Ewing and those two agents control the NBA for years along with Nike. That's been the league forever. What's different? Now. What's different is? Lebron is friends with rich. Paul call me crazy, but wasn't David Falk. One of Michael Jordan's guys. Of course, was an aren't Talim really close to Kobe may still be yes, that's an agent's job to be your friend. I've got an agent. We're good friends. Why I trust him? That's the same way. Michael in Ewing. An Iverson all felt about David Falk. There were friends lot of steaks lot of cigars, let of laughs lot of champagne together private jets together golf tournaments together. So because LeBron's buddies would Rich Paul everybody's worked up. Anthony Davis to the Lakers. Yeah. That's never happened. A great player wants to leave his crappy team and go-to. Lebron L A. Yeah. That's just crazy talk. It's been happening for fifty years wilt became a Laker and shack became a Laker where did shack leave a small southern franchise Kareem left, Milwaukee a small midwest franchise. I'm on nothing crazy here. We had a bunch of player movement yesterday. It was all good Dallas roll the dice on porzingas. He's seven foot three and a half a slasher. He is brittle. He's coming off a nasty injury. I don't know if I wanna pay him max money, I kind of like what the next half. But I haven't liked the Knicks have done for ten years. That was the first time. I kind of looked at the next and went, wow, I kinda got their act together. Fear drives ratings in politics, Fox News and MSNBC in the world's going to end and. Republicans or the end of the world and liberals or the end of the world. Everybody's always telling me the NBA is too top heavy. Tell me the last time. It wasn't people are telling me stars have too much power. Tell me the last time. They didn't burn magic. Not a Commissioner saved the league. Michael, Jordan, not a Commissioner made it global Kobe. Lebron shack. Nobody's watching for owners. This league has been controlled by David Faulk, folk aren't Talim Rich, Paul LeBron James Magic Johnson Larry Bird. Sometimes the Commissioner doesn't have a lot of power let let's all stop the fear mongering in the oh my God, the world's going to end stars in the NBA. Here's what's happened. David Stern save this league. It was not doing well financially. And David Stern said let's make it about the name on the back of the jersey. Put it on the front give guys marketing and Nike and McDonald's, and it has, you know, gassed up some of these players, they they feel pretty empowered like any of us would. And now, suddenly the players talk and taxed and share the same agents and say, you know, what we deserve a little more power. Not the Ivy league agent, not the billionaire owner that doesn't even understand basketball. It's all going to be okay. The Knicks are finally relevant Dallas roll the dice. The Lakers are going to be good again because they're gonna get Anthony Davis kyri, maybe stays in Boston, maybe doesn't. But it's a captivating story. Whatever happens to him. But I disagree with Charles Barkley. It's not collusion. Its impoundment. I've moved you'll move stars moved. Anthony Davis has given the pelican six years. Lebron initially gave the Cavs seven. I've watched NBA NFL guys. Like Elway and Eli manning sale. Never play for that franchise. NBA guys are giving you six seven years. They just get tired of it and want to go somewhere else and play with their friends. It's all good. All right. There we go. I like Charles Barkley disagree with them on just disagree with him on that one a little bit. You know, Jerry Rice today. Eric dickerson. Oh, Mr. ram. We'll see. I'll have my blazing five pick. We are packed today. And also something to throw out there. Is. I'm going to add somebody. To not my mount Rushmore. I call it. My bore four. I've been calling it in that last couple of years. Russell Wilson Tom Brady drew Brees. Andrew luck. I'm going to change the name and potentially add somebody that's coming up. 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We have picked ten playoff game so far and we have picked winter nine out of ten times. It's my best playoff blazing five ever. If you combine my blazing five picks on a regular season pick. We were over sixty percent. That's that's as good a years. I've ever had that gets into, you know, Vegas sharps and professionals. We've had a great year picking games. I've thought a ton about this game. Put a small wager on it myself, not not a huge wage weren't going to you're going to ban. This is all a little bit. Not the lot lot. Just start getting concerned glove compartment money just at twenty just a just a twenty. Let me say this. I have I understand why Cam Newton big personality stylish Baker Mayfield Aaron Rodgers big band. Jameis Winston lot of fun big quotes Lauda drama. I understand why they're popular and they're all really. Talented. But I said it would Baker Mayfield for me as a GM not draftable you. Go ahead. I'm not interested at the quarterback position. I'm looking for even keel, no peaks, no valleys. I don't care. My wide receivers. You know, my middle linebacker my safety. My tight end big personality guys. But this is somebody that's running my franchise in crisis. I need him to walk into the huddle and say sh. Sh I got this. Rob Hammerstein's a great offense of lineman for the Rams. The perception is Jared Goff doesn't have a huge personality and doesn't have a commanding presence against the saints late in the game. He came into the huddle, according to rob. And basically dropped bombs and said be quiet all take care of things. This is mine. Andrew Whitworth double down on the comments. Jared Goff is not a lot of noise is not a lot of personality is not a lot of drama, but he showed in crisis. He can grab the room grabbed the huddle. He talked about his personality at the Super Bowl earlier this week. Something I was kind of born with and how I grew up and how van probably attributed to my parents and the way they raised me. And just try to understand that it's still just a game and have fun with you are who you are. I think there's plenty of different personalities run the league in at different positions. And I think, you know, for myself personally, like to take a certain approach is the way am, and I know for some guys the different approach, and I think whatever works is we should have through for forty seven hundred yards this year and thirty two touchdowns. That's with a Todd Gurley. Who was never the same in November and December and losing his favorite target Cooper Cup early in the year to an ACL. What he does have though as he has traits. That I admire for a quarterback not everybody maturity temperament professionalism. He outplayed drew Brees late in the Superdome that can't be understated and for years and years. Everybody rolls. There is I've called it. My bore four boring Brady breeze. Andrew. Doc in Russell Wilson. Those are my four favourite quarterbacks in the NFL. The bore for even temperament, you know, an occasional fist pump an occasional get into the huddle and drop, you know, but word, but no, quote, even keel, even temperament I mean struggled to tell a joke. These are these are not hip, they're not let they're not cool. They're not nosy. They're not allowed the sometimes I would argue they all have a little dorky nece the bore four if Jared Goff win Sunday, I'm going to insert him and add one more quarterback. It will be called the flat five flat even keeled. No peak. No valley, it will be Brady and Gough breeze. Russell Wilson and Andrew luck. I like my quarterbacks. Lessee go no quotes don't care if you have style you can have a neck beard. You can be a little dorky. You don't look great at the combine in your underwear doesn't look like a bench press Rhode Island. I'm okay with it. I like boring. I like flat personalities joy Taylor. The news. Turn on the news. This is the heard line news, sometimes ward ones who Super Bowl with the Steelers and one was one of the key leaders on those championship teams sealers obviously missed the playoffs. It's year and ward things because leadership has done away on top placing blame on Mike Tomlin. He also had some more. It's rothlisburger who is back for eight seasons in Pittsburgh. You said when you wear that SIA New Jersey that stands for a lot. It's not just what you do on the football field. Ben, you should know better. If we save our band of brothers comes hot to me like a brother you don't have to put me on blast in front of the media. It seems like he kicks and chooses his moments and ward wasn't the only Steeler who had some talking to do yesterday. Shuster told ESPN I think everyone has to stop being divas. I think we can just stop being the Kardashians and just play ball being in that locker room. I've learned a lot. I know I would never want to be a problem to any franchise. Big Ben deserves some he you know in lebian bell last. Laughed. I thought it would cool down, and it didn't it got worse. So, you know, if you have a party, and the crazy guy leaves and the party gets crazier than maybe it wasn't the crazy guy. So lazy and bell? There was a time this year when I was like, you know, what I'm not into lebian bell. But when levian and left the problems got louder, and you know, it not only makes me think less of ban. You know, what it makes me think? Joy. I'd roll the dice on Libyan bell it lady in bell got an I was guilty. I was kind of like this guy is just nonsense, but he left and it got worse. And I haven't heard a ton from Libyan belt. He's gone to Twitter a couple of times, lady and Antonio Brown and ban. I think are a bigger part of this drama and Tomlin than lobbying Bellavy mbelle. Now to me is a more attractive free agent than he was in the middle of this season. I I don't know that the blame can be placed solely on one individual in this situation. I do think that does have a point that Ben has been the longest. And he should be sort of thing. This the captain of the ship and steer the the the team in the way that the culture of the Steelers is supposed to represent. But that's why most of the blame for me still falls on Mike Tomlin because you are supposed to come in and establish a culture and stick to it is the whole idea that he was like, well, you know, as long as, you know, Antonio Brown's performing at a high level, we're going to tolerate this. Into neurons not going to be there forever in your mind. If you want to be there for decades and decades, what about the next receiver that comes along that cycle's never going to end the culture and stick with it. So despite the fact that he is quarterback for the Cowboys. Dak Prescott doesn't usually do a lot of public interviews. But after the amounts nouncement of Kellen Moore, modes offensive coordinator Dak had a lot to say. Tom. He a player to the time. Now that the things he sits there watching plays you draw playoff. Or hey, this is a compliment off of that. And I mean, he was that was the main reason I push for him to be the quarterback coach in the first place because I moved to to tell the juicy has in the game. How smart he is how these visa fee? It comes stuff to the game is just one of these young fee knobs and seeing the game no one where the game was in the way, it's taken this transition to this new style, the player, whatever you wanna call it. He sees it. He gets it. Here's where all defend all the young coaches is that and I see this with my son, the internet has given kids an opportunity, you know, I used to have my parents had encyclopedias in the house and I would go up stairs. And my we my parents had National Geographic and encyclopedia's. And you would learn stuff. I'd sit there and rainy day in Seattle. And I'd sit there and read that it was harder. It is much easier for young kids. There is greater access to everything to you to defend. Film. So a twenty nine year old coach now is like a thirty six year old coach. And by the way of Bella check, sixty six and his sharp as ever we have people running for president. Now, joy Bernie Sanders is seventy mayor Bloomberg is seventy people eat better nutrition education. I look at these young. I'm not saying they're all going to work. I'm not saying you gotta have the right personality in the alphabet. I'm not sure clip Kingsbury gonna work. I'm not sure if the kid Matt leflore is going to work in Green Bay. But this idea that Twenty-nine scares us twenty nine is thirty four now twenty nine thirty five, and I I don't have a problem with it. I also think that there's an element of being able to relate to the players more. And that's being valued more. Yes. You're more power more money you need to get in line with the system. And this is how we do things. And this is this is my system, and if you don't fit in you got to go, and now people are realizing talent kind of matters if you wanna win any league. And if you want to keep the talent they need to keep them happy. It's not all about Xs and os, there has to be a relationship there. And I think that's part of what happened in Green Bay. Once you stop being being able to communicate and relate to each other, the the relationship deteriorates, and that's not a recipe for success. Finally, Kyrie Irving seems to be changing his tune a little bit with just a few months ago when he told fans at TD garden that he was planning on resigning with the team is this contract sets expire the end of the season. Cari was asked to be still intends to resign with the Celtics in free agency. And his answer was asked me July. First at the end of the day. I'm going to do what's best for me in my career. I don't owe anybody belief. He's right. He doesn't. He's a little flaky. I don't we. We've talked about this this week. He did kyri Irving has already told everybody. He said this. I'm not gonna play forever. He's not cope. He doesn't wanna play for twenty years. And he's also. And world class players one of the ten best basketball players in the world. He has a right to do whatever he wants to do. I have a right to move to companies when my contract NY NBA play. I have no problem with with any NBA player changing teams at any point. There is no loyalty on the organizational side players, right. So I don't know why there's an expectation from players to be loyal to organizations now if you put the fans in it that adds an extra element, of course. But people have to do with best for their families their careers legacies and feel is best. You can't tell them what to do for the record. If I was kyri. I would not leave Brad Stevens that would not be my recommendation, but it was also my recommendation, I wouldn't LeBron James. So he could go over to in my eyes, but I'll fight forever for an athlete's right to choices because the owners and the GM's and the coaches move constantly what if? He's leaving grad Stevens for heaven Durant. Hey, well, we report it. Yep. It'll be interesting. I'll be all over it. Join the news. Well, that's the news. Thanks for stopping by the heard lie. Well, I mean, you know, it's funny when we think a wide receivers, you know, a lot of times, you know, we say they're divas and their showboats, but most people believe the greatest wide receiver in NFL history. And perhaps the best player is Jerry Rice. And Jerry Rice was determined was driven was a habit based and was unbelievable. And he is joining us via the cower global satellite network. You know, Jerry, not only was your career legendary, but your workout we're really next level. You you were doing off the field running up those hills in the bay. You were the first American athlete who we looked at his workout and went, oh, he's different than everybody else. My feeling is your personality reminds me a lot of Russell Wilson who told me yesterday. He didn't get nervous for his first Super Bowl. He was. So he had so many habits. So I want you to go back to your first Super Bowl. I don't see. I don't see you as a guy that would get nervous. Take me back to it were you on. Man. I was so nervous. We'll be honest with you because I think it really meant something to me. And plus I stayed up all night long. And I tried to visualize opportunities that I will have doing that football game. So I didn't get much sleep. The next morning is a long day. You get up you have breakfast meetings that you have pre game meal, then you head over to the stadium. So I went over to the stadium put my uniform on and decided to relax on his table and guess who fell asleep I fell asleep, and I could hear my teammates come by. And if like what is going on with Jerry this is Super Bowl Twenty-three, he's asleep. But I had put all of that work in and I was ready to play football. So I yeah, I really got nervous. That's funny. So it is interesting. Your personality. You the perfect superstar that you weren't showy? I mean you wanted the ball. But you know, where does that come from your DNA ozo- has been you're very driven? You're very serious. No mess. Around. I come to practice early. I leave it late where you like that as a high schooler a college everywhere. You know, I think my DNA from my parents, you know, about hard work, and dedication, my father would take me to work with him during the summer. He was a bricklayer, and I I had a tough job to do. And if I didn't do my job he would discipline me in a certain way. And I think it was just that work ethic. And I was not the most gifted athlete, but I was going to out work you, and I think it paid off in I had long jeopardy for over twenty years in the NFL. Now, you go, and you're three times we're champ when you look back at your Super Bowls. Do they all kind of? Do you remember each specifically or were they just you've been so many that they all kind of feel like the same? No, everything was different in every Super Bowl in nervous before every Super Bowl. I wanna make that point blank. Because I guess when it was something means so much of you. Because you don't never know you never know where you're going to get the opportunity to be back in that position again so Super Bowl twenty three D. I remember Super Bowl twenty four against the Denver Broncos. You know being able to catch the ball bounce off those big safeties and get into the end zone Super Bowl twenty nine with Steve Young. You know, Steve needed to get that monkey off his back because he wanted to go down as one of the best quarterbacks. So he needed to win a Super Bowl. So every one of those Super Bowls had a different. Meaning to me. You know, you you played with many people have compared Brady and Montana through the years because Steve is a little bit more of a runner initially. But he became a great pocket thrower the lefty. He reminds me a little Russell Wilson. He came into the league is a runner developed into a really really good passer. But when you see Bray. Brady, we always about how much pre snap. How he changes the call at the line of scrimmage. Let's go back to Joe Montana was Joe did he just take Bill Walsh's call or did Joe like to audible a lot too? Well, Joe was the same way he was in control on the football field. If if he saw defense and he needed to audible out he knew he had two players on outside to do that. And as a receiver for me, you know, I would come to the line line strimmers, and I was just like a quarterback on the football field. I would see something. And I knew exactly what I had to do on that particular play. So you know, you can see similarities between Joe Montana and also Tom Brady, what do you make of the emergence of the Julian Edelman the slot receive it used to be Jerry that you know, the outside guy was the home run hitter. Well now quickness means as much as speed because of slot receivers. Do you think your career would be different you? Nobody Cornerbacks couldn't touch Jerry Rice. They used to be able to you could go slaughter outside. What do you make of the emergence of the wide receiver position? Well, actually, that's what I did. I play slot also played outside and I think with the run pass option. Now, he's a totally different ballgame. You got to start looking at these slot receivers. Now and say that these guys are putting up numbers where maybe you have to look at them for the pro football hall of fame. Yeah. You look at element. You look at Welker. You look at Amadullah all these guys. So yeah, you know, I moved all over to football feel and I was able to have a guy on opposite side to complement me the patients, they talk they talk about not having that go-to guy element is that go-to guy. And if you play him five yards off, he's gone. A you know, he's going to be able to defeat you. And also catch the ball in keep the chains move. It New England's been to a lot of these the Rams haven't did you feel in your second and third Super Bowl. It was an advantage having been in. In this game. No, not at all. Not at all. If you get to the Super Bowl you deserve to be here. You know? And I like the reference this, you know, sometimes you got to be able to slay the dragon. And we know that what the patriots. They have a lot of guys on that team that got the experience in the ramps. They don't have that many guys is going to be up to Donald also sue to try to get to Brady, and he's going to be up to that secondary to try to stop gronk, and and also element by the way. Maybe it's a silly question. But I'm watching all your highlights. Here you ever see your highlights, you're sitting home on TV and you watch the highlights and you think yourself damn I was good. I was really really good. No, no. I look at myself. And I think I can always do something better. And I think that's the reason why I never got complacent. I continue to work. I wanted to be like the most condition after. Wait till have played a game. And I wanted to start the game and finish the game the same way. And I think that's why I played if over twenty years I've seen your stats, Jerry. I'm not sure you could have been better, you're big. You're very you're very humble, man. By the way, on behalf a Hennessy's the world's preferred cognac, including Jerry's favourite Hennessy x oh, the world's first extra old cognac toast with your friends this Sunday there. It is right there, Jerry. You're one of the you're one of the six or seven greatest players in the history of the game. You still look like a million bucks and on behalf of Hennessy's cognac. Thank you. Okay. Hey, you had to think about Hennessy is that. There are so many varieties of Jack and kayak is a brandy and is made in cognac, France. And for over two hundred fifty years, they have celebrated this with their customers is that never stop. Never settle attitude in s something I did and football. So it's big game. I'll make sure I have. Tennessee on Iraq saw Hennessy x oh. Which is extra. Oh, and you can go to Hennessy dot com slash US. For the details. The great Jerry Rice. Thanks, jerry. Good talking to you. Hey, thanks for having me. You bet. I'm actually surprised he was nervous for the games. Because he he Jerry was people forget there's about Jerry Rice. He was not a burner. He was he was never the fastest. Now he had speed on. I always remember about Jerry Rice. He was the first wide receiver. I heard announcer say this Jerry didn't slow down out of his cuts Jerry speed from the minute. He left the sidelines. You know, a lot of receivers do a stutter step into their cuts. Jerry, just ran the same speed. That's why even though he wasn't a burner. He was one of the first players. They said he has football speed that Jerry, you know, in the underwear at the combine runs a four six and then in the game runs a four five five that he didn't slow down out of its cuts, and I can remember Pat Summerall and these broadcasters saying there's fast, and then there's football speed. And Jerry Rice could never run like Dion Sanders, but he had football speed. And if you didn't see him play live, he was he and Randy moss were just diff. Well, you see that all the time with college athletes who try and transition or even high school athletes at trenches transition from track speed into football does is a little different. It doesn't work not the it's not the same speed. But Jerry Rice go though, he's unbelievable coming up next. Lebron returned for the Lakers and update on Anthony Davis becoming a Laker. He's going to be a Laker. It's just willy be a Laker by Thursday. That is coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific cold and flu season, try Vic sign X nasal spray. Jerry Rice was great. Chris Broussard, Eric Dickerson, Jason McIntyre blazing five top of the hour. So glad Avidan. So glad to have you in very exciting. NBA stuff NFL stuff. Very very exciting. Don't kid yourself. The NBA love stealing Super Bowl week from the NFL. They love skip Bayless, and Shannon, and Chris and Nick and went lock enjoy. And I love this stuff. They love it. Let me start with this. Lebron came back last night. He played it about seventy five to eighty percent. And he was clearly easily the best Laker on the floor. He hit that key basket. He scored nineteen in the second half and for him to be able to come back Lakers were six and eleven during his absence the longest of his career, and he was the best player on the floor last night at about seventy five percent. And that's why the Lakers are willing to move all their players to get Anthony Davis folks, it's happening. The shoes about. Drop. This was always a four step plan. The first step of this was signed. Lebron check the second step of this was LeBron assess the young players check the third step was trade for Anthony Davis almost about to be a check. And then the fourth step will be end of the year. You got a bunch of one year contracts Casey p seventeen million Rondo Lance javale McGee bell bail on a couple of those and use it to acquire a third high level player. We are to down third one about to be checked. And then the next one when the season ends as Chris Broussard said step two was evaluating young players. Lonzo got hurt. Again. Kouzmines good not perhaps special Brandon Ingram. Mostly just a guy. Josh heart should be a good bench player. Here's broussard. I would give up them. Our assistant coaches everybody except LeBron aloe care who it is. If they want Jeanie Buss, rob Pelinka, you we'll give you the new front off. And even magic I hate to say, but if I have to I'll give up whatever it takes outside LeBron so get affidavits. Now. The question is will the Lakers get him by Thursday's NBA trade deadline? I would strongly suggest to the pelicans. Four stages of divorce yelling bitterness simmering and acceptance speeder up guys get to acceptance because the Knicks are no longer of viable, Anthony Davis spot in my opinion. Because yesterday they made a huge deal. They got rid of a great player who I would have struggled giving a long term contract to Chris porzingas, seven three and a half, not a natural height a slasher who collides with bodies at the rim. He's not your classic post up. He is a Scottie Pippen slasher with a better jumper. He's been brittle and he just came off a nasty injury. So what they did. In New York was great player. We can get a lot forum and get rid of some contracts and the Knicks now will go after Kevin Durant. And the Knicks now will go after Kyrie Irving. Now. My gut feeling is they'll probably end up with Kemba. A Walker and Jimmy Butler, not kyri Irving and Kevin Durant. That would still be really good with Kevin Knox with some nice young players potentially Zion. Williamson number one draft pick, Nick, right? Talked about it this morning. I like where the Knicks are ad today. The Knicks can offer. Kevin durant? Something no one else can everyone can offer. Kevin Durant in the max, everyone knows cap space. The Knicks offer his own franchise, Katie you can pick your team teammate, you can pick everything all we have is rookie contracts draft picks they kept by the way design lottery ticket which is it's only fourteen percent. But it's as good a chance anybody's going to have. And you are not tied to what I would consider an incredibly risky contract. Totally agree. It's a good day to be a Nick don't fall in love with players fallen like with players today. The Knicks have hope and optimism. The Knicks are something. I don't think they're going to get Kevin Durant. Rant. I think he stays in Golden State, although his agent is from Manhattan, and I don't think they're going to get Kyrie Irving though. I'd say the chances are better than Kevin Durant. It would look pretty cool. If this is what the New York Knicks looked like their marketing poster to start next season. But it too good day to be a Nick fan. Think of all the positives. No, more risky contract on the books. Porzingas seven three and a half slasher brittle coming off a major injury. Trouble. To max is available. Kevin Knox a very good player. Zion. Williamson is transformational at Duke and David phys Dale is widely respected among NBA players. This is the first time. I can remember the Knicks not having a horrible contract. You gotta go back like fifteen years people like phys, Dale they're going to get the number one two or three pick. And if it's a number one while Kevin Knox a really good player in a really nice player. Maybe not a superstar. Maybe not a star. Good player to max, guys know, horrible contracts. It's all good. It's all good. Tonight. Get your free credit score card today. Even if you're not a discover customer clued your FICO credit score and won't screw with your credit. Learn more at discover dot com slash credit scorecard. Limitations apply. My Super Bowl pick. Axed one more heard the herd. Streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like. This is the heard our to live in Los Angeles wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio NFS one sponsored by draft kings play free fantasy football for the big game for your shot. The one million dollar top prize. Joy Taylor is joining me on what has been a crazy week it really escalated Tuesday or Monday morning. It was the Anthony Davis Laker thing. And then Kyrie Irving said yesterday. I don't know the Celtics are anybody anything. We've got Porzingis. A Nick now, he's a math. So that's what Charles Barkley's furious last night. This is what the NBA has been forever. It's been it's been shoe companies and agents and stars controlling it. I'm totally comfortable with it. The NFL is about the GM the coach and the systems. That's generally it NBA's about the stars there. Two different business models. I love both. I think. They're both great. I don't think the NBA model works in the NFL, and the NFL model doesn't work in the NBA. And they're my two favorite sports in the way. It is. All right here. We are first of all let me say this. I would not bet a ton on Super Bowl get to that in a second just a little bit. Because there is the great unknown Todd Gurley on I like answers not questions in games that I would ever ways you're on. But it is the Super Bowl people. I know that actually do this for a living. They like the prop bet better than they actually do the game for the same reason girly. Nobody really knows right. This has been a very good year for me in terms of picks nine and one in my picks. In fact, my only loss was I picked Kansas City to beat New England. So people always say, oh you pick the Seahawks because you're from Seattle you pick the patriot. I don't play that way. I never have. I want to get the stuff. Right. So here we go. Here is my blazing in one. Let's blaze it up prior. It's Collins blazin. Fuck patriots versus Rams of K right now. New England is favored by two and a half minus two and a half here. The reasons you should like the Rams, okay? First of all Los Angeles will be the best offense that New England has ever faced in April. And New England scores a lot of points. Philadelphia beat them not because of their great defense. Philadelphia outscored New England you're not going to hold Brady Bella Chac and this team to seventeen points. It's not going to happen. So a reason to like the Rams is this is the best offense. And it would be even better if they had Cooper the Rams have the six best offensive line in the NFL. That's a real good thing. According to pro football, focus a lot of their wins this year. Houston's got a battle line. Kansas City's Online's got some good players. Not great chargers align the weak part of their team a one team that thumped New England Tennessee at a very good offensive line. The Rams do they're also very good in shootouts. They're five and one in games for both teams score thirty or more. They've averaged one hundred ninety five yards rushing over the last four games. Those are all reasons to like the ramp. I also like this. The Rams have more sacks from interior. Lineman twenty-five any team in the NFL and they hit the quarterback over a hundred times teams that hit the quarterback over a hundred times on a season the giants and the eagles are two zero against Tom Brady. There are a lot of reasons delight the Rams, Hugh. They're good in shootouts. K they are the best offense they faced. They have a very good offensive line that gives New England trouble. And last is that their defensive line hits the quarterback from the interior and the two teams that do that Philadelphia one Super Bowl because it did that in the giants gave him trouble. Now, here are reasons why you should like New England. They're six zero against playoff teams this year. They had some stinkers against Miami in Tennessee. But when they played really good teams that made the playoffs they rose to the occasion, they destroy the chargers. They went into Kansas City. I know it was overtime. But really controlled the Kansas City. Chiefs beat him twice. Here's another reason to like him. They go forward. They don't beat themselves. They have only twenty two times this year a rushing attempt that got negative yards. This offense at line was seen as a weakness. It is now at least in the center guard positions as good as any offensive line in the NFL only twenty two times that they go backwards on a running play. Also Brady is he's age needs more rast the chargers game off rast. He was unbelievable. He's got rest and he's got three hundred plus passing yards in nine of his last eleven play. Off gangs. This is also a big factor. Brandin cooks was a patriot. They know him. Well, Robert woods was a buffalo. Bill was too fond Gilmore for four years. Gilmore's New England's best corner. They'll probably put him on woods big advantage New England, but more than anything the game comes down to this. I've got a lot of definitive data an answers, but I have one big question about the Rams what's up with Todd Gurley? If I knew he was healthy. I'd be very comfortable picking Los Angeles. But he posted career lows in touches and yards last week two weeks ago averaging only fifty yards a game since week fourteen. And I cannot take the Rams who enter the game not only without Cooper Cup. But perhaps Todd Gurley at sixty seventy percent. And with that. I would put a little money not a ton on the patriots winning the game thirty four to twenty six in a game in which Brady gets hit a few times. The Rams are a worthy opponent. But I think that James white Sony Michelle eat the clock. Keep it away from Sean McVay gob girly C, J Anderson, Robert woods, Brandon cooking at line, prevail. Thirty four twenty eight thirty four twenty eight by the way, it would be a cover thirty four twenty. There you go. All right. Let me go to this. Going to say, I'm crazy. But just just how I see the world this season. If New England winds it will be their greatest achievement generally overtime. This is the way it works dynasties fade, Shaq and Kobe lost their last finals together. Magic loss to Michael Jordan at the end, LeBron and the heat Ditto. That's the way it works. Yet. Kind of old at the end New England had eight Super Bowl appearances, this is nine and it's the most impressive obstacles unraveling gronk and Brady went anti Bill in the off season for a month. There was that Alex Guerrero situation where he got a little too close to Tom Brady, several ugly road losses elements suspended controversy. Yet. They destroyed the chargers. Best roster. I believe in football. And they went to Kansas City and be dandy reading Patrick Mahomes. And it's starting to remind me of the Beatles. They were already the Beatles. The goat. They were already a musical dynasty their legacy was intact. Suddenly, you heard reports that John Lennon and Paul McCartney couldn't be in the room together. Why because Lennon's wife Yoko Ono had gotten so close to John too close. She was. Offering progressive teachings. Like the patriots Tom Brady, and Alex Guerrero. Got so close with new progressive healing measures that it kind of turned off Bill Belichick. He kicked Guerrero off a plane. The Beatles were coming apart at the seams unraveling their big four Lennon McCartney, Ringo Starr, and George Harrison and the patriots big for Bella check, Bob Kraft Brady and gronk similarly starting to unravel. But then something amazing happened with this musical dynasty. The Beatles released their greatest most iconic album ever, just when we need them out Abbey Road, you know, the iconic album cover. They came together their last recorded album and their greatest ever. Musical and NFL dynasties be very careful. I know what you're saying. This is looney tunes. But I look at the great John Lennon Yoko Ono Paul McCartney coming apart Abbey Road. And I look at Brady and Guerrero gronk craft and ballot. Check in your counting him out. Just they were not to be undone by Yoko and the patriots were not to be undone by Alex Guerrero, New England by about a touchdown Sunday. Coming up next. Chris Broussard on the zanies craziest. Charles Barkley's freaking out week. I mean, it is just nuts. It's great joy it really it got a little while yesterday. I can admit it the beginning of the week is Anthony Davis news. Like, okay. This is going to be a fun week. It's Super Bowl week got MBA rumors. So the entire week. And then yesterday it just went off the rails. It went off the rails. Okay. Who's gonna blink first Lakers? AD kyri very lettuce. 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Wherever putt guests are found sports team needs to be informed. Make smart decisions. Same truecar truecar dot com. Newer us say three grand off MS RPI. It has been an absolutely nutty crazy week yesterday. The Knicks traded their star. Kristaps Porzingis to the Dallas Mavericks, clearing up space for potentially Kevin Durant, and Kyrie Irving. Anthony davis. Pelicans will be a Laker. The question is when I believe it will happen with that via the cower global satellite network. I Bruce are joins us. All right. Let's start with a porzingas trae people in New York freaked out. What was your take on it? I think it was a great trade for both teams. If you just look at it from a stand point of how good are they today? Yeah. You would freak out and say Dallas, rob them. But when you look at the big picture, you see it was great for both teams. Let's start with the Mavericks, obviously, you got poor thing is who will stay there. Long term. He knows has a relationship with Luca. Danni dark Novitsky will obviously tell him about how great the franchise is. And those two are building blocks for future contender also like Tim Hardaway junior because he can shoot the ball and with those drawn so much attention. He'll get a lot of open looks from the Knicks perspective as you said, it's all about having the max cap space, Colin there are people in the league who have told me weeks months ago long before they had the cap room to get to max guys, they think Kevin Durant is going to New York. There were people thinking, Kyrie Irving might go there. Now, they have the cap space. For both of them. And I don't think Durant will go to New York by himself. But if he in kyri wanna go, and look the Lee can't do anything about it. There's going to be tampering galore going on with all these players. Kyrie's going to be talking with K D katie's going to be talking with Jimmy Butler. Kyrie's going to be talking with Anthony Davis. They're all going to be talking figuring out what they wanna do and the dream list for the Knicks is kyri Arvin and Kevin Durant. New york. Let's talk about Kyrie Irving this morning. Release some audio saying I don't give a blip. I don't know anybody anything where do you think that came from is he setting the Celtics up for an exit perhaps. What as a heck of a backtracking from what he's saying mostly go about wanting to re-signed with with the Celtics. He's eight he's going to do what's best for him. Again, these last few. I'll even say since he had the conversation with LeBron. There has really been allowed to speculation. A lot of talk around the league from people saying he's not staying in Boston. And this is people close to the situation. He's not staying in Boston. I think if you listen to what he said today at the press conference when they asked him as your view change from what you say mostly go to now, he's had asked me July first, he didn't say, no, I still love it here. You know? We'll see we've got a long season left. Let's see what happens. He's aid asked me July. First I'm doing what's best for me. I don't anybody. Anything kyri is from nearby. West orange, New Jersey. He grew up a nets fan. But the Knicks are obviously the show in New York. He likes the spa. Hot light. He's a fantastic player. And even though kyri and LeBron have mended fences. If you still are a competitor. And if you wanna show I can win without LeBron James what better way to do it than with Kevin Durant in New York. And if you're Kevin Durant, and we know he's competitive with LeBron even though their friends if you want to one up LeBron James what better way to do it than win three peat in Golden State, then go to New York and lead them to a championship with Kyrie Irving, you if he leaves them to a championship in New York Durant is I don't think he's as good players. Lebron James, but he will certainly have a legacy. Yes. Our or accomplishments that surpass LeBron James if he can do that from a winning perspective yet. Remember, the Knicks also can get a hold of one of those Duke players like Zion Williamson they have Kevin Knox. So it's not like, they don't have anything. They got a top pick. A young man. They like now I want to shift into LeBron. And then as Smith junior yet. He pretty good. Yeah. Quickly. Yeah. I want to shift to this. Okay. Let's go Anthony Davis to the Lakers. I've been told it's going to happen. I think you've been told that they had the Lakers certainly yesterday. Brad Turner, LA time said they're willing to give everybody you agreed with that. The question becomes the Knicks now appear to be out on Anthony Davis more he has said publicly or through an agent. Boston's not his thing. Right. It looks like the Lakers now certainly in the running for having the best package if you were the pelicans. What would you do? Well, first of all your Reich. How yesterday was a great day for the Lakers two there were three winters the Mavs the Knicks and the Lakers because the point the Knicks are out of it, Boston if KAI relieves their out of it. Let me say this quickly if kyri resigns with Boston somehow, Danny aines, even if he's told it's a one year rental AD won't stay. He will pull throw the dice and try and get Davis there for one year believe it he could convince him to stay if Kyrie's gone. I would do that. If I'm Danny aines. He may still do it. But I wouldn't do it if I'm aids. So when we look at the Lakers. Yeah. If I'm the pelicans, there's no way Colin I'm trading him to the Lakers before the deadline, even if I know he's going to end up there. Eventually what I would do if I'm the pelicans our Cindy Anthony Davis own for the rest of the season. Go to Chicago Jit get out of New Orleans, notice icago. This ruins their franchise to a large extent go to Chicago. We'll let you know what we're trading you. I wouldn't even think about doing it before February seventh. I believe I can get that best Lakers offer in the summer. Just like I can get it now. So because here's why some people think well with Boston now with New York out the Lakers will be able to low ball you and you have to take it not necessarily because remember Anthony Davis has to stay around all next year. Lebron James is not going to let another year with this mediocre squad play out. He's going to get impatient. And has some point he'll say look kid, Anthony Davis. I don't care who you have to give up. And then they'll go do it. I wanna play a bite last night. Charles barkley. He's all worked up. Do. We have the bite on Charles Bartlett's. Let's play this Charles Barkley last night. Adam civil need to block the tree. Why I don't like what the lake was doing. I don't think is right. I don't Lakers. Yes. I don't think what what did they do? We're collusion. No. Is collusion. Let's say some risk. Paul got mad at me because I said a month ago, oh to fix his in and Dave is going to the Lakers and he didn't like me Santa fixtures in their fixes been in. I don't I think Commissioner darn the who I like a lot. Did you come out says, hey, we could trade Davis. But he cannot go to the leaker. We cannot have players in agents colluding to set the stack super team. All right. Chris Broussard, respond to what surcharges said well, first of all these wrong. He's talking about Nazis players have the same ages. That's always been the case. David Falk have Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing, Alonzo, Mourning and many others when he was the top agent in the game. So that's nothing new. What's new is this in two thousand ten LeBron? Jay. James show players how they can take control of their own destiny. That's what he did. And that's what this is now is stead of players leaving their destiny in the hands of the GM the owner and the other front office members, they are taking control of it themselves. Now, they have to be careful because it doesn't work out for everybody to why how we're ruined his career when he got is for every place else and left Orlando ruined. It Chris Paul when he left New Orleans with to the clippers didn't ruin his career. But it didn't basketball wise, he didn't get to the conference finals in LA. Now, he's kind of a role player next James harden in Houston, Carmelo Anthony when he went to New York he was still a celebrity in a superstar, but he didn't win. It didn't help him basketball wise his team in Denver was better. So it hasn't worked out for everybody. Somebody's players need to be careful. But this is what you see happening players are following the LeBron James. Blueprint that he has started. Kevin Durant actually did it better than LeBron and his own better team and Golden State and winning. But this is what this is players are now seeing how the GM I'm not gonna let him send me wherever he wants to. I'm going to go where I want to we can build teams, we know more about basketball than them or just as much so we can build these teams instead of letting them do it. Now, it may whether you like it or not that's the reality of the situation at this point. What you and I agree on this. And always have great stuff. Chris Broussard, who is also a hell of a football guy, favorite sport. Good Hooper loved his football. You know, if you if you were just a little tougher you could've played football and covered football. But you know, you're a little soft. I got paid full Colin the older, I got the more painful. Good seeing you Chris. All right. My guy Chris Broussard Eric Dickerson last hour. This just came down. The pelicans beat writer Andrew Lopez. And this is something I keep saying over and over Anthony Davis was asked why he wants to be traded and Anthony Davis, and I'll quote him said, it's my time. I feel like I gave this city all I could New Orleans. He didn't refuse to play there. He signed a second contract. You couldn't get him. Better players. Stop pretending you never had your chance with him, Dan. Gilbert had LeBron for seven years. Couldn't get good second player who went to Miami. I've seen football players refused to go to a city for a day. These NBA guys, they're giving you six years shack gave Orlando to contracts. Shock wouldn't give Orlando a third Anthony gave you two and a half. He's not giving you a third. Lebron gave Cleveland initially to contracts not giving you third. Kevin Garnett gave Minnesota. I think three he wouldn't give you forth. There are cities in every sport that are destinations for stars LSU football, Oklahoma football, Duke and Kentucky, Kansas basketball, New York. Yankees Red Sox. Dodgers lakers. Dallas cowboys. And then there are organizations that have to. Draft a little better that have to recruit a little better. Oregon went out and got chip Kelly and created a new offense and almost got him a national title. Okay. Then they don't get five star athletes. They're usually and by the way, a a Sacramento Norrland. Oh have been very good in but free agents don't go there. Anthony davis. There's no perfect way for these superstars in the NBA to leave. Lebron didn't give you heads up and you burn jersey. And then Anthony Davis giving you a year and a half. And you want burn his jersey and Denver's like we'll give you six months and you burn his jersey. What am I supposed to do? The more honest player is upfront the more you crush him. Well, also, you can't give his guys a hard time for never winning a championship or never coming close to winning a championship. And then give him a hard time when they wanna leave and better their legacy by trying to win a championship with better players because that's what you fans team gay. You fans. Always hold these guys. You didn't win. You didn't win. They're like. All right. Well, I'm not gonna win here. I want to go in there. Listening to you taking less money to go win joy with news. Turn on the news. This is the heard line news tell the rookie of the year words seems to be between Baker Mayfield and saquon Barkley and apparently to have a friendly bet on who will win yesterday. Saquon reveal the losers got to get someone else. A chain. We get to pick the chain, and we get to have fun with it. Because obviously everyone's talking about who's going to win we made a little bit with just the show. How friendly we are that it's bigger than just the award bakers probably gonna win it. But there they both had great years. I I don't have. I wouldn't have a problem with it. Either way. I do think is gonna win just based off of the fact that he did set the rookie record. And he also let it seem to a better overall record. The giants were only five and eleven by the way and Baker did set that rookie record and only thirteen star. It should be noted RG three one like own award. It doesn't guarantee anything hit by the way. We've had a lot of guys win this award and it unravels, but it's a nice accomplishment. It's just not a bad way to start your career. Right now, something to build on, especially, you know, with someone like Baker who people had a lot of doubts or I think everyone considered saquon Barkley to be one of the best overall players in in the job, not even just edition. So I think it was it was more of a hill to climb for Baker. And also as a quarterback. So I think you're gonna lean that way. Well, this will probably come as good news for Cowboys fans. According to Adam Schefter, Jerry Jones is not expected to give Jason GARRETT'S to extend Jason GARRETT'S contracts. Scared is entering the final year of his current deal. And according to Schefter, his contract will not be extended short or long terms. Cowboys fans all freaking out over Kellen Moore yesterday. And I I don't know how how do cobwebs fans feel about Jason Garrett overall. I feel like he's the perfect person for that job. I think there's a reason the Cowboys are not extending him. I think in one year old get to this in the second. There's going to be some very interesting candidates. And I think Jerry Jones as much as we roll our eyes the Cowboys. They're pretty fun. This is what I would do. There's no rush. I think the Cowboys are dysfunctional. I think the Cowboys are run in all areas tops about him by Jerry Jones. Yes Jones, isn't a dysfunctional person. He's very successful. But as of late the success is not translated. Well. They won the division two times in three years. Now, they're not winning. They wanna play off game. So let's let's be honest about this. It's hard to win in the playoff Rams last year. Couldn't win a home game against Atlanta Philadelphia when the Super Bowl, but it Lanta if Julio Jones catches on the ends of they don't even get the Super Bowl drew Brees last two years Heartbreakers if you can win a division and win a playoff game that it to me if you can do that outside of New England for almost every franchise that's a heck of a year. I would take that all day for the. I'm not saying that it's not an accomplishment what they've done. I'm just saying for being America's team and the wealthiest sports fan shies in the world, you kind of want to raise the expectations to Super Bowl at some point. Now that they I'll have Super Bowls. We all remember it was just a long time ago. So I don't know what this means for the Cowboys. I just think that whoever is going to be in that position is going to have to do pretty much. What Jason Garrett doesn't just take a lot of direction from Jerry Jones filing. What the next day yesterday was pretty shocking. They sent Kristaps Porzingis their seven-foot unicorn to Dallas and NBA execs have responded to this move with either suspicion or disbelief, according to Sam amick of the athlete the Knicks have been widely known to be targeting during tes for so long now and GM Scott Perry was part of the SuperSonics front office team that drafted him some rival executives even reported. The Knicks officials themselves have been expressing a very high level of optimism on this front. Now. I know this sounds very far fetched because Durant is a part of a legacy had dynasty in Golden State. But New York is New York, and they did just free up all lot of space. They could fit kyri and Katie and the situation was Scott Perry is very interesting because Scott Perry was there as I just mentioned with the Seattle SuperSonics. He drafted Kevin Durant. They ever good relationship. And Scott Perry has a good relationship with players. He's one of the few African American GM's in the league. He's very well liked. And this is a big deal. Listen the. This would be an automatic. If it wasn't for James Dolan, the owner and everybody in New York's freaking out, nobody will come here because of James Dolan. But the Knicks have smartly between phys Dale and the young man, you talked about they have put a bunch of people below Dolan that players respect in like. Yes. Steve mills. So I don't I don't think Dolan is going to Dolan talk about Selma's thing. Six months ago. I don't think Dolan will get in the way of this. I think increasingly he's let basketball do drawn it. I think he's gotten older in his music, and he's not I don't think he is. I think ten years ago. Don was an issue. I don't think he is now. So in New York yesterday was freaking out. And I just for the life of me. Look, I mean anytime you're star player is traded away. It's going to cause some level of panic. But if you it's hard in the moments of look at the macro situation, obviously for the rest of the year. They're not expecting much, but they are actually in a really good position. If this ends up happening, which you know, if you follow the bread comes. It could be very much in the works at least for Kevin Durant. Joy Taylor with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by her Dickerson last hour. Jason McIntyre Monday's headlines today, which has become one of my favorite segments to do. Yeah. I mean, this this all this NBA, you know, movement. I always try was believed when I come to work every day. My job is to take the emotion out of things. I feel like I'm a judge and the you the audience or the jury and you're watching it on cable TV, but my job is to take a motion out of stuff be level-headed oaks. I I read some of these twenty year old bloggers of I got the NBA is doing exactly what the NBA is always done. This is what it's always been about the players agents and shoe companies control. It not the coaches in GM's, and when we did have a dynasty where it was sort of a system with the Spurs. Nobody watched it we like our stars in the NBA we like him, and they move and a toss them, and you know, this idea well like twelve teams aren't able to compete. That's always been the truth in the NBA. That's always been the bottom. Third of this league doesn't get on television nationally and can't compete and the NBA just keeps growing and growing coming up next. Jerry Jones did not give Jason Garron an extension, and I believe there are four reasons why and those four reasons are four coaches that is coming up next. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific. Night at big ten double header tips off on episodes wanted all starts at six thirty eastern as number five Michigan battles, Iowa, the number twenty one Maryland takes on number twenty four Wisconsin at nine catch. It all tonight on episode one and the Fox Sports app. Tennessee is going to be a number one seed duke's going to be private Jinya, maybe Michigan. Michigan state exciting. Doug Gottlieb is gonna join us in a couple of minutes. Let me just say this the Cowboys Jerry Jones and Steven Jones Jerry Jones Jones family said they're not going to extend a Jason GARRETT'S contract. This next year. They're gonna see how it goes for the record. I think they're right. This is not college football. It's going to hurt recruiting. I I think this is what they should do. And I would say this. And I said it multiple times stop lumping Dallas into the crazy zany dysfunctional group. They are not they draft. Well, they developed players they trade smartly, and they win games. That's a good division. They want it to three years and they wanna play off game this year with a fourth round quarterback. There is a ferris wheel of dysfunction in the NFL the raiders in Tampa and Cleveland Jacksonville, Detroit and Cincinnati the ferris wheel of dysfunction. Do not include the Cowboys in this. They win divisions developed players. They. Trade smartly they draft. Well, they're going to go draft the tight end to Goodyear for tight ends. They're going to try to replenish their offense of line. It's getting old. They know what they're doing. They will be a nine ten win team next year. It is all good. I will say this though, there are four coaches to keep your eye on Lincoln Riley, just signed a contract with Oklahoma. But if he gets into the final foreign wins, the national title, remember Jerry hired a college coach Jimmy Johnson to win a Super Bowls keep your eye and Barry Switzer. So he's two for two in the college guys. Keep your eye on Sean Payton, if drew Brees after next year show signs of age and retires Sean Payton once worked for Jerry Jones. Keep your eye on Josh mcdaniels if Brady again shows age they failed get to a Super Bowl Josh mcdaniels with no quarterback in New England after Brady Jerry Jones would look at him and Mike McCarthy listen McCarthy's been to a Super Bowl. He's one hundred per bowl. All he'll still be on the market. So Lincoln Riley. Sean Payton, Josh mcdaniels Mike McCarthy all potentially available in one year from now this is not college football. You don't have to sign ear coach, it's not hurting any recruiting class. So I think the Cowboys are on a good spot. I like I like where they're going. I think they're highly functional. They do things I like they draft smart. They trade smart. They develop players like New England, Trey flowers has been developed into a nice pass rusher. I didn't know David Lawrence wasn't college. I didn't watch him. So it's easy to draft Zeke, get Amari Cooper. But to develop a lot of the young players, David Irving. They have done a great great job is Doug her there yet. Let's go cower global satellite network. Got a couple of minutes. I want to ask Doug Gottlieb, first of all Anthony Davis Lakers. If you were the pelicans would you make the deal by Thursday? Or would you just keep? Extending it 'cause you're ticked off at the Lakers. Well, what what are your options are calling? Right. It feels like New York's option has has changed, but there are three potential destinations now shrinking too because Anthony Davis has said he doesn't want to be in Boston soon. Be rental. So like look this is a game of hardball where Anthony Davis is camp clearly wants him in LA and the pelicans want to open up to as many bidders as possible. You don't reminds me of reminds me shark tank, right? Like, you know, which shark you want to do business with. But you need the other sharks to stay engaged. Yeah. In order to get the evaluation. Right. I think he ends up a Laker. I think it sooner rather than later. But there does seem to be a little bit. Just a little league. People have told me there's a little bit of panic set in from the Bronx and Anthony Davis folks because there is a sense that maybe other guys don't wanna play with him. Kevin durant? Simile doesn't I've been told that Kyrie Irving has no desire truly to play with LeBron James again, Leonard doesn't Jimmy Butler doesn't seem to want to come to LA and play for the Lakers. It's more clippers. If he wants to come to LA, and so this is kind of their last hope at a potential superstar. And if I'm the pelicans if they want to throw the kitchen sink that Nick right proposal of every young player and two first round picks. I do it. But but otherwise I'd just be very very cautious because you don't want to go to Boston. And I'm not sure the New York things really interesting a lot of risk potential award. But none of risk in that. They don't get Kevin Durant, and then leaves them with a bag of money, and nobody to spend it on. Let's talk about the Knicks. They now have room for two big free agents. People are saying it's going to be Kevin Durant and Kyrie I think it's going to be closer to Kemba Walker and Jimmy Butler who are still really good players. Yes. Well, what do you make of the Durant? Kyrie New York stuff. I'm with you. I mean, listen, I know that we operate in this world where hey league executives are starting to say that they think that that the Knicks thing that they're getting Kevin Durant. That's great the clippers think they're getting quiet Leonard the Lakers thought for years, they they thought they were you know, they knew who they were going to get. Back before they got them. I remember when Kevin love was definitely going to be a Laker. I get this from the Knicks perspective. I get it ton of reward their ton of risk the dream scenario that somehow magic ping pong ball. They get John Williamson. They get Kevin Durant. And they get Kyrie. I do think that Kemba is more likely than Kyrie even with. Kyrie's really weird kind of cryptic statements today and that he's focused on now not the future. I do think that carries kind of not feel in Boston right now. But do these guys these guys calling they can change their mind in a day a week? Hell a minute, right. Just listen to the read the comments of Kevin Durant over the last three months. He says some different every week. So they're gonna get somebody. If they get Kevin Durant. Great. It's going to be interesting. But how many people have tried to climb that mountain a Madison Square Garden, right, Pat Riley, tried it with Pat Ewing, and then Jeff Van Gundy? And remember they spend all that money on Larry Brown and Phil Jackson and Carmelo Anthony and Marsh Donna Myron penny. Hardaway. Jason Kidd, like everyone's tried to get the Knicks back, and no one's made it work. Don't think that won't be used as negative recruiting towards the Knicks like I like, David fizzed ill. He was kind of an old head in you basketball in L A when I grew up in Washington play in college. But like this idea that David physio somehow is Red Auerbach. I look he he he got into it with Markelle song got fired last year. And they're terrible this year. I think he's a good, dude. It's a good plan. There's a lot of reward there. But there's a lot of risk and they traded away. Christopher zingers who I still think, you know, injury notwithstanding still thinking has an incredible amount of upside. And I think I think Dallas got the better that trade yesterday. Finally, we've got about a minute and a half. Who is what is the story line Monday on the Super Bowl? You don't have to give me a winner. If you don't want. What's the story Monday? The story is why not walk away. If you're Tom Brady, right either way win or lose the story. Focuses on Tom Brady, if he wins one out ride off into the sunset if he loses and it gets ugly like dude, it's really hard to get back. Yeah. Kurt warner. Remember tried to get back on a concussion? I think that that Tom Brady I I haven't heard who you picked and everybody misses you here. Why can't call and get off his office? Took us spend some real money has fire up the private jet and get out here to Atlanta and p with the real people with real people were toughing it out here in Atlanta's on freezing cold, Colin. I know I I think Tom Brady is calm raise the story line. Yeah. I I like New England for one reason. I don't know if Todd Gurley is healthy if Cooper Cup and Todd Gurley we're healthy. I have no problem picking the Rams Goths numbers aren't the same without Cooper Cup. They have not been and I have no idea how healthy earliest. And remember they they were down ten points in. New Orleans, right. The call notwithstanding and they did get a turnover and they did make enough plays. And they did win the game whether New Orleans wants to complain about it, and I I still think Sean Payton, I know they checked out of a run just take a knee three times kickoff field goal is fifty seconds left. But the point is that this Rams team was down was trailing as opposed to the pats who they dominated kicked a Finnish against the chargers. And they took a lead early and made the Kansas City Chiefs play catch-up, you don't want. You don't want that to happen? And feels like the patriots are in a win win situation. Even with the coin toss they've shown the desire to take the opening kickoff instead instead of deferring and remember the Rams they've deferred every time. They've won a coin toss this season. And what's happened? The last two games. The patriots have scored on that opening drive and made the other team play catch up. I don't think you want to play catch up with this team in the Super Bowl. I'm with you. If they were healthy. And if it wasn't the patriots, the Rams are the better team better talent. But this coaching staff this quarterback, they seem to find a way. And I think there's a little bit of a mental edge. They're considering they they didn't trail until late in the second half on the road in Kansas City as opposed the Rams who had to play catch up and really had to survive in their playoff wins in order to get here. Doug, good seeing you buddy. We miss you. I know you like cold weather, but only when you can St. down a mountain in that cold weather. Thank you very much. You're very accurate Ajoy, and I will be next year at the Super Bowl. It is in Miami, her view her former hometown in one of my favorite places in America, especially during February. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people say. Three next. One more heard the herd. 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Like we've been very lucky years and years ago about twenty years ago it was during the Cowboys run there were like seven straight awful Super Bowls. There was a run where they were just blow out they were off. Well, we've been on a run of thinking about this Philadelphia. New England Atlanta New England SuperBowl New England. I I mean, the NFL has been on a great Baltimore in San Francisco. We have been on Iran of incredibly close Super Bowls, and these are certainly too high powered offenses to Joyce appoint if Todd girlies have you told me today, I don't even need to know the yards. If you said Todd Gurley gets eighteen carries. We gotta get him. That's how I feel if you tell me Todd Gurley. Seven carries at C, J Anderson has been has been great for them. He has he has coming up in fifteen minutes. Eric Dickerson, maybe he'll wear the ram hat. I want his true feelings coming up in fifteen minutes later and best for last one of my favorite segments of the week. Now become a tradition. Jason McIntyre, the bigly dot com. Monday's headlines today. What will they be? Well, I am hearing so much that Sean McVeigh is the next Bill. Ballot. Check. But let's take a closer. Look, Sean McVeigh thirty three years old. That is half the age of Bill Belichick who sixty six he is the hot new Boy Genius. And he has earned all of it. He is sharp is fun. He is smart. He is relatable. And when you put the resumes next, Bill Belichick, hallway two minute dead. They're not they're not close. I mean, not really even close. Sean McVeigh has two wins that anybody in this league historically would care about he beat the Cowboys off a bye at home got a few calls, and he beat the saints on the road and got a big call. Now. I do think the Rams are better than both of those teams. But that it two wins that we love in the NFL to anoint the next dynasty anybody seen Philadelphia. This week. Anybody seem eagles. I can't. Can't wa-. They're they're they're nowhere to be found. That's because what happened. Philadelphia's what happens to virtually everybody not named the patriots. I want to remind you something about the Los Angeles. Rams. They are in a division. That's really good in getting better San Francisco. Kyle Shanahan Jimmy Garoppolo Seattle Pete Carroll. Russell wilson. They've already locked in three of their stars big boy money Aaron Donald Todd Gurley and Brandin cooks and all by the way, girlie showing signs of wear and tear. They're going to eventually pretty soon. Here have to pay Jared Goff. A lot of money will limit who they can sign and oh by the way their offense. If line is old and getting really old fast. And I want to remind you. Of the four franchises. We were. Absolutely sure that we're going to take over this league. The Saint Louis Rams and Kurt Warner fastest show on turf. And who ended their dynasty New England the Seattle Seahawks. Russell that defense delegion abo- who ended that dynasty. The New England Patriots the pet spurred Steelers are getting big bend getting Super Bowls, and who has really ended that dynasty haven't been there in seven years to the Super Bowl the New England Patriots. And Peyton Manning was going to wreck this league. Member colts got to go to like ten Super Bowls eight he won one Super Bowl in Indianapolis. Why four for four the New England Patriots? They are favored they are more experienced. They are going to reload Brady played his best game in years against the chargers. They're probably most believed going to win Sunday. And it should be noted. They've got a big edge in this game. The two wide receivers for the Rams one's a former patriot. And the patriots best corner guarded the other one Robert woods for four years in buffalo. We love to anoint the next dynasty four of them have all ended due to Bella check in Brady. All right. Let's segue into this. Oh, lordy. Lordy. Lordy next. Thursday's the NBA trading deadline, and you and I know the NBA is changing these days players have more power. But it should be noted. It's been a players league since I started watching it in nineteen seventy two Cates. It's always been a players leak well yesterday. Oh today. There's a lot of stuff freaking people out. Anthony Davis has said I wanna be a Laker in play with a great player. Ooh. That's never happened before a weight. It's happened. A million times porzingas wasn't happy with the Knicks. And so he went to very aggressive owner of the Dallas Mavericks, Mark Cuban. And now the Knicks have the availability for two stars in free agency. That's that's bad. Kyri Irving said this morning. I don't know anybody anything. I don't know the Celtics anything and people are freaking out because Kyrie Irving doesn't. Oh, the spelt Dick's anything. Charles Barkley was on TV last night. He is beside himself. Adam meet the block that tree. Why? Like what the lake was doing. I don't think is right. I don't Lakers. Yes. I don't think. What what did they do? We're collusion. No collusion. Let's say risk. Paul got mad at me because I said a month ago picked his in Dave is going to the Lakers and he didn't like me Santa fixtures in fixes been in. I think Commissioner darn the who I like a lot. Did you come out says, hey, we could treat out the Davis? But he cannot go to the leaker. We cannot have players and agents colluding to set the stack super Tate what time out. Timeout my entire life. And I've said this one hundred times. Agents and shoe companies and stars have controlled this league. What's different? Now. What's different is? Lebron is friends with Rich Paul and the billionaires don't like it. But folks, if you're in your twenties and thirties, you don't know who David Falk is or aren't Talim. They ran this league for three decades. David Falk was so powerful they called him the invisible hand in union negotiations. The NBA had a lockout and ended a lockout and David Stern and David Falk. We're controlling it. He was an agent Arn Talim had shack and had Koby and David Faulk had Michael Jordan, and he had Iverson any had Ewing and those two agents controlled the NBA for years along with Nike. That's been the league forever. What's different? Now. That's an agent's job to be your friend. I've got an. Agent. We're good friends. Why I trust him? Anthony Davis to the Lakers. Yeah. That's never happened. A great player wants to leave his crappy team and go-to. Lebron LA? Yeah. That's just crazy talk. It's been happening for fifty years wilt became a Laker and shack became a Laker where did shack leave a small southern franchise Kareem left, Milwaukee a small mid west franchise. I'm on nothing crazy here. Everybody's always telling me the NBA is too top heavy. Tell me the last time. It wasn't people are telling me stars have too much power. Tell me the last time they didn't burden magic not a Commissioner. Save the league. Michael, Jordan, not a Commissioner made it global Kobe. Lebron shack. Nobody's watching for owners stars in the NBA. Here's what's happened. David Stern save this league. It was not doing well financially. And David Stern said let's make it about the name on the back of the jersey. Put it on the front. Give guys marketing Nike and McDonald's. And it has, you know, gassed up some of these players, they they feel pretty empowered like any of us would. And now, suddenly the players talk and taxed and share the same agents and say, you know, what we deserve a little more power. Not the Ivy league agent, not the billionaire owner that doesn't even understand basketball. It's all going to be okay. The Knicks are finally relevant Dallas roll the dice. The Lakers are going to be good again because they're going to get Anthony Davis kyri, maybe stays in Boston, maybe doesn't. But it's a captivating story. Whatever happens to him. But I disagree with Charles Barkley. It's not collusion. It's empowering -ment. I've moved you'll move stars moved. Anthony Davis has given the pelicans six years. Lebron initially gave the Cavs seven. I've watched NBA NFL guys. Like elway. And Eli manning say I'll never play for that franchise. NBA guys are giving you six seven years. They just get tired of it. Want to go somewhere else and play with their friends? It's all good common up. Will it be all good for Eric Dickerson? Mr ram. He joins us in studio while he joined us, maybe it's a talkback either way from Atlanta near the Super Bowl. He's nervous. I can tell you that he's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio affects one and the iheartradio app. Everyone. I'm Dr ause. 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So we'll have Eric Dickerson coming up and Jason McIntyre in Monday's headlines today. He's been kind of a crazy week. There's some NBA stuff obviously going on and the Super Bowl, you know, it. Let's just remember this now one of the reasons I like the patriots in this game. Think there's a lot of reasons to like the Rams they have a great offensive line. They have a great defensive line. It's very formidable. Those kind of teams can fight off Tom Brady get to Tom Brady keep on the sidelines. But in the end, no Todd Gurley to me is it it just it's just too much to overcome. And I also think this season will be the most impressive for New England that they win they've been to eight but this. Ninth season is really absolutely unbelievable that they you know, gronk and Brady went anti Bill. This off season lost free agency elements suspended. They had the Alex Guerrero situation where he got too close to Brady and ballot. Check kicked him off the plane, and it does remind me to a large degree, you know. It reminds me of the greatest band of all time, the Beatles. I've said this earlier where they were the greatest musical dynasty ever. They were absolutely legends. They had their big four Ringo Starr, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, and George Harrison had their big four and a patriots have craft Brady Bella check and gronk. But there was a time when at the end of the dynasty Yoko Ono got very close his wife with John Lennon and started teaching him about progressive health, and progressive ideas and similarly, Alex Guerrero, got very. Close with Brady teaching them about health and wellness and progressive thinking and it did not play well ballot. Check didn't like it and kicked him off the plane, but just about the time we were going to bail on the Beatles. And then we thought they were unraveling and just about the time. Now this year we thought the the patriots were unraveling controversies anti Bill Brady ballot. Check Alex caro- gronk get Nolde amendola taken shots at him. The Beatles came out with their greatest album ever at the very end Abbey Road. And it was it's their icon IQ album cover, and we're just about to bury the New England Patriots craft and ballot. Check and gronk. And Brady don't forget. We thought the Rams were going to be a dynasty. They ended that we thought Peyton was going to be a dynasty. He won one Super Bowl in Indy. We thought Super Bowl it's gonna be a dynasty. New England into that. We thought Pittsburgh Big Ben guide to a couple that was going to be a dynasty. Why not they can't get past New England. So just about the time you're going to bury you always want to bury all these musical dynasties, and they release one more great album, and it goes back to, you know, Yoko Ono John Lennon got in between, you know, McCartney and Lennon and it was created friction, but they were still able to endure and Alex Guerrero got close with Brady and Belle. Check didn't like him and kicked off a plane. It wasn't perfect. But it looks like it looks like they're favored, and I don't know what I'm getting from Todd Gurley. And it makes me think New England in their nine Super Bowl is going to end up six wins. Three losses and all three losses. Really, really close. Here's joy Taylor. The news. This is the headline news. So kyri is changing his tune big time few months ago, he told fans at TD garden that he was planning on resigning with team. Now, he was asked if he still intends on re-signing with the Celtics and free agency. And he said ask me July first at the end of the day. I'm going to do what's best for me and my career. I don't know anybody bleep. Yeah. This week. It's been so fun. Yeah. It's amazing. And they don't like the way they don't own anything. They took a listen. They took a little bit of a risk getting kyri Irving. He had had some injuries. He had left LeBron. So you think he's a little flaky earth flat. They took they roll the dice Boston. Did they had a plan, and they kind of disrupt that it with Kyrie and this is part of the risk in the NBA. It's it's become a what's always been a players league. But as far as for fans because I know this is becoming difficult for fans fans are joking. If they you know, they can start a, you know, a jersey trade in program or something with these players. But the fact of matter is is this is the way it is now, and it's it's leaking over into the NFL as well and guys wanna have control over the career. And you can't give guys a hard time for not winning championships and not having successful legacies. But then expect them to stay in the same place where they're not winning obviously, he's in a good situation with the Celtics. So you can't put. That on him, and he adds Brad Stevens. And they have a good roster. But maybe he's just not happy there anymore or maybe he wants to play with Katie in New York. So with the Knicks did yesterday was interesting. They sent Kristaps Porzingis to Dallas MBA exacts respond to this move with either suspicion or disbelief, and according to Sam amick up the ethnic, quote, the Knicks have been widely known to be targeting Durant for so long now and GM Scott Perry was part of the SuperSonics front office team that drafted him some rival executives even reported that Knicks officials themselves expressing a very high level of optimism on this front. Now, people are pointing to the fact that during its agents from New York, obviously, it's New York City. There's New York media. It would his own franchise. The lock going on here. But the Scott Perry thing to me is the biggest element in this because he did drafts. Katie who you're with at the very beginning of your career and your rookie season has a long standing effect on you, especially if you have a good relationship with that person. Scott Perry has good relationship with players. Katie's families comfortable with him. I don't know if I really see him leaving Golden State. But if there's one person that can give them to go to New York, it would be that. And obviously James Dolan has been a big factor in kind of the dysfunction. I don't think I don't think he's gonna leave the warriors. But if he did this would be the leaf is also very well liked as well. So could be Kharian Katie there next year. So what do you do the night before big day, Colin rest, rask's hydrate? That's what I do. I hydrate rush. I'm going skiing for J. No, no, no tonight. I'll go to bed early. Well. The patriots were asked what they do the night before a big game or the Super Bowl. Julian Edelman said I like to take a little melatonin, I like cherry juice gronk said, you gotta take it all in you have to enjoy it filters sets that I eat junk food the night before a game chocolate ice cream. I do it before every game. Patrick Chung says he likes to watch food network. I like chopped hopefully, guy's grocery games. His on like to watch chopping wonder, Dan, how am I gonna make something out of this don't they Hightower says he plays fortnight? I I hit up my brother and asked him what he did before the AFC championship game. And he said he just children watched a movie. So I I don't know. I don't really know what I do. I think getting some rest, but it's hard to get rest when you're anxious for something has happened. Jerry Rice told us you couldn't sleep for Super Bowl. Right. And sleep is important in in those settings. You don't wanna be running on on low energy. But the patriots have been here at timer to. So they got the routine down joy with the news. That's the news and thanks for stopping by lie. Played for over a decade, a hall of fame. Led the NFL in rushing four times. He was a pro bowler six times all time eighth NFL Russia, and he has Mr. ram. He's joining us in Atlanta via the coward global satellite network. Eric dickerson. Let me ask you this. I watched Todd Gurley last week. And he didn't look the same. And I I mean, you you can tell when a running backs not right? He dropped a pass. And he usually has great hands. He missed a block. He's a very good blocker. Do you believe Eric he is healthy? Yes. I believe he's healthy. You know, Colin this time of the year. You never one hundred percent healthy, you know, usually like seventy eight percent health that's health in the National Football League. Let me tell you about. It's very hard hard to play a New Orleans hard to hear in that stadium. It's hard to get a rhythm. You have bad games. And Taunton play will last week. That's just part of it. And you look forward to the next week to to redeem yourself. So I mean Todd here's what everyone else has been saying. So I know he wants to play very well in the Super Bowl game and possibly be plays one up. He could be MVP. If the Rams minutes football game what kind of game. Do you envision? I could see it being like the eagles and the patriots where you have to good offensive line's quarterbacks. That get the ball out fast their players. I I could see high scoring what about you? I'll see how see high-scoring is football game. I'll say maybe thirty seven thirty thirty seven twenty eight something somewhere around there. You know? I think that you know, one thing about the Rams they could score points. You know? And but the big thing is you can't make mistakes against the team. Like the New England Patriots pages because they'll make you pay for it. And it says vice versa. We may teams paper making mistakes against us out. Defense has to get Tom Brady. You can't let him sit back and just pick us apart. You can't play zone on him. You have to you know, hit him no quarterback in the National Football League likes to get hit. They'll like has in the face. We have the guy that can do it in dominant. Sue and Aaron Don, you know. So and Broncos you you ha we have to get to him and hit the receivers and also shutdown that running game the running game is the key to the patriots. If they can run the football run, the football, successfully that gives them that two headed so that they want with with Tom Brady of you know, what he can do. And you haven't run a game to go along with it makes that much more dangerous, but see we have that we had then C J Anderson and we haven't Todd Gurley for sure and I'll young quarterback Jared Goff. I think Jared Goff has a lot of traits in similarities to Brady I think he has a better arm though than Tom didn't. I think he's more talented at this stage than Tom was when you look at Jared Goff. What are you see? I saw a young man that struggled his first year. I think really because of the coaching didn't have the proper coaching. He has the talent. But you know, plan the quarterback -sition you have to have a guy coast Eck and coach you up right two weeks ago when he played in that NFC championship game. He won that game. Really? He did. Because if we didn't have Jared Goff. We wouldn't be here today. You know, the throws that he made the scrambled that he made you run the ball when he had to, you know, getting the signals out peop-. I mean, you really don't understand how hard it is to hear you can't hear and the way they ran their offense. They'll be able to score twenty six points and a real hostile hostile environment. You know is big and throw right here that he to Brandin cooks that was a that one. Does a good throat that was a great throat. Do you think they've they've already got girly signed up and Brandin cooks and they've got a top division, and then they've got to pay Jared Goff. Their offensive line's getting a little old and the tooth. Do. You think this championship window is maybe shorter? I mean, the divisions really tough. They're gonna play Seattle and they got Jimmy Garoppolo. We how long do you think this championship window lasts? You know, honest, which account not that big. It's our time. I think the championship one is going to run for a while. I think that we have the players. I mean, we might Louis loosen plans for sure, but we have the pieces in place. You know, what the most important thing you have you have the players, but the coaching is so important. I mean, you look at you look at New England, and I use them as an example would Bella check sometime then have all the greatest players, but they still able to win with our young coach, Sean McVeigh to me. He is a mini. Version of him. He really is. He's he's a he's a mini version because mix spe is a football got. I'm gonna football guy. He's he's all about details. Just like Bella check as he's about detail. He's about you know, having respected the players in every respect him. And the big thing is I think one thing when people talked about all year that McVeigh can't hell all these big personality. You got to leave. You got Peters. You know, Kenny hallel. These guys you have heard nothing come out of ram Cam is all about winning football games. And I I believe will. I I think that will have this run for a while. I don't know what do like the patriots think we'll ever see that again. But you know, we have a very good football team. What worries you about this game? If you're a Rams guy. What worries you what what's your worst nightmare? Turn the football over. That's it turn the football over. 'cause and you and you have to be committed to the run those things don't turn the ball over and run the football. I think we win this football game. Because I think I'll do physical step up. I think one of the key things in this game is his way Phillips. I think people underestimate QA's Philip defense they've been playing very well. The last couple of weeks he's been in this situation before he's being the patron four before when they won the Super Bowl against the Carolina Panthers. He put it on Cam Newton and their offense. And that's what I'm hoping that he'll be able to do this Sunday against the New England Patriots. How surprised are you that they brought in Dominic and sue and Marcus Peters and the keep to lead these guys had a little baggage? These guys, you know, their resumes were spotty. Are you surprised how? Well, the chemistry has worked with the Rams. You know? No, I'm not after after hearing about how Sean McVeigh dealt with players. I mean, and that's this comes from players that have played under him. You know plans that have been around him and talked about Eric me tell you something it's only one shining. But he said they can try to find another Sean McVeigh, they're not gonna find him. He said, you might think you have a shiny bay. You don't he say he is such a a football guy. He loves football. He he wants to work in. I think the big thing is you find coaches don't listen to the players the players. We're we're out there in the fight. We're not talking about the fight. And that's one thing. I think the coach McVay does he topped his place. Okay. Tell me what you see tell me what you want to do. And that's that's important in NFS, not working. He's the first one to tell. Hey, the player. Let me show you not working. And you you have to take the time to do those kind of things with players in the National Football League. Now, how big is it for LA if they win. What does it mean to you? Oh, oh my God. You know, forget me. The city of Los Angeles. This means so much out city of LA. You know, we had the flood we had the fires. We had the shooting at border line. I mean, this is so big, you know, sports sports takes you away. It's like, I just need a vacation. I need something to root for and that's what this gives us. This gives us something to root for all the fans back in. I've been talking to fans back in LA, my friends, and they've been saying managed ram stuff everywhere in the offices that that's all they talking about his Rams, you know, a lot of it's not a whole lot of ram fans out of this is a long way. I mean, you gotta say this this is a long trip. But man, you know, this is so big for our city of Los Angeles. And like, I say forget me, you know, this is about the city of LA and the play and the young players that we have on this football team and the older players on the team. Also, by the way, Eric Dickerson who has told me that he only eats like one meal a day. I hope you've splurged a little in Atlanta and had had two meals a day. Are I want you to be having fun? Okay. Let me tell you because it was the two o'clock three eaten all day. I had one meal yesterday. No time I ate yesterday. Twelve o'clock at night twelve o'clock at night when I had my first meal last night. Lord, Eric great talking to you. Good talking to you. All right. Isn't that? The craziest thing I don't know. How he does that he doesn't eat. I don't some people. I don't know. I I can eat once a day if I need to. I have a smoothie every morning eggs. Every morning oatmeal. Every morning already had an apple have a power bar. I going to be clear, it's not my preference. But why why would you get busy and never once in my life too. Busy to eat. I've never been like, I'm hungry. And I'm busy. You know? I do I get less busy, and I take care of the hungry. All right. All right. This has become. I would say I think it's almost my favorite segment. We do it on Fridays. We started doing it back in August. We call it Mondays headlines today with a founder of the big lead, Jason McIntyre. And he tells us what the newspapers are going to say Monday morning that is coming up next. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific. The greatest event in motorsports is back. The Daytona five hundred kicks off to nineteen NASCAR season February seventeenth on FOX. This Valentine's Day. Ditch the chocolate and roses, Tommy John dot com code her. Twenty percent off Tommy John dot com, code H, E Artie, the founder of the big lead big lead on Fox Sports radio. Saturdays tend to one coming up winners podcast. His name is Jason McIntyre. I've known him for a long time long. Do we go back? We go back. I can remember being in my yard in Connecticut. And and telling you about things I was going to do. Yes. And they have transpired go. I think at that time McVeigh was in diapers. Right. The Rams coach might he was like in Tampa Bay serious a little kids. All right. We do this every Friday throughout the year, where he, you know, he started in the newspaper business, and I you know, when I was starting out. I wanted to be a sports writer right like in the smart pivot there are there we go. So it's good J Maxx journal Monday's headlines today. So Super Bowl who wins. I think the headline on Monday will be gone. Off and running. I liked the Rams in this game columns. We were talking before the show Vegas needs the Rams badly. Seventy eight percent of the Bedser on the patriots. When that happens. You know, what the house needs the Rams I like the Rams to win a close game low scoring us like the under. But I think the big story Monday is going to be what what do we have here with these Rams? You got a twenty four year old quarterback? I know you're big on Gough. You've got a great young coach and McVeigh you've got elite players at running back on a rookie deal in girly and defensive tackle. And Aaron Donald is that not the makings of a potential dynasty young stars young coach in the NFC. There's nobody better than them right now. The saints are kind of trending downward, right? Drew Brees near the end. I think Monday people are going to be talking about Jared Goff and the potential for great things. I one of the things that's interesting as a Goff. According to the people of I know that know him in the family, he has the makeup where he doesn't you know, his dad was a major league baseball player. They've done well for themselves. He's not a guy that. Needs to be paid thirty five million bucks. He's not he would take he would take a reasonable contract. If it allowed him to keep both Cooper cop, and Robert woods and good tight end. So Goffin running. All right. How about this Super Bowl New England? What's the headline for them? Monday's headlines today. Boston fans have been getting on my case all week about this. Because they know what's coming. I believe Monday. The headline will be the biggest losers. And now when I say this Colin cowherd just know if the patriots lose Super Bowl, they will now have six Super Bowl losses as a franchise. Most in NFL history. Tom Brady will be five and four he will have tied for the most Super Bowl losses as a quarterback Jim Kelly, four losses. Bella check will now tie for the most Super Bowl losses. Any way? You look at it. New England Patriots lose here. I think people start looking at just how dominant were these guys. We know they've been very good for a while. But think back to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Seventies dynasty. Okay. Terry bradshaw. Lose any Super Bowls. No how about Montana's forty Niners. He lose any. Nope. Remember, Troy Aikman and the Cowboys Troy Aikman, FOX announcer. They lose any Super Bowls. Those guys were all undefeated during the run. I think people will start to just wonder man, they kind of let down in the big game a little more than we thought. I think Brady lost a Peyton Manning in the last couple of AFC championships in Denver. I mean, I don't wanna go to in-depth here. But when you look at how they lost or how they won that game against the Seahawks. Seattle on the one yard line. That goes the other way the biggest comeback ever against the falcons. They could be looking at a four game losing streak in the Super Bowl. I mean, they got sump by the eagles last year that was bad. All right. Monday's headline Super Bowl does gronk retire. Well, you know, if you look at Vegas this line has come off some sports books. They've there's been so much buzz about gronk right now. I believe Mondays headline will be grunk out. He's only twenty nine years old. But if you listen closely to his quotes this week on radio row. Yeah. This is a beaten man, he was in college. He struggled with injuries. Yeah. It's just listen. He's going to go down as one of the greatest. He's in the discussion with Shannon Sharpe. Tony Gonzales, Kellen, Winslow, one of the greatest all time. But the guys twenty nine he's physically beat up. Now he is coming off a tremendous game against the chiefs. He did he was very good blocking against the chargers. But if you're gronkowski, Colin you've got options, you go to the WWE, you mess around in movies like he can make that pivot the same way Ronda Rousey has as well. There's options for gronkowski. Why come back for another year? Get beaten up, you know, the injuries are taking their toll. And then you start to ask about Tom Brady. He's gonna look around that locker room, ma'am. Gronk is leaving. Who do I have for who's coming with me, Josh mcdaniels and Bill Belichick, and that's really it Brady looks back. And I think and I know he said, hey, man, a zero chance I retire. But Colin just did he do that. Maybe to kind of throw people off a sense. So they weren't going to be asking him about it all week. Nobody's asked Brady about retirement. I think when gronk hangs them up Brady's now going to have about seven months to really think. Should I come back? Well, it should be noted gronk will be out elements got a couple years left. But they they're going to have twelve draft picks. The team will have a very young makeup next year. It's going to be one of the younger teams now. We'll will have some veteran defensive guys mcchord too fond Gilmore, Don Hightower, but the offensive line. It's interesting. I don't know if they keep Chris HOGAN, forever gronk will be gone Sony Michelle's this could become a much younger offense. We forget how close they were to not getting that home game in the playoff. Remember, this is a team, folks. This is why I'm picking the Rams I just think people are too much on how good the patriots have been the last two weeks crushing the chargers beating the chiefs. I think the reality is the body of work for the season for the patriots was just not great Brady was very good. But not amazing. All right NBA trade deadline in Los Angeles. Monday's headlines today. We've got the Rams winning the Super Bowl and the headline Monday in LA. LA lands. Anthony davis. Oh, also wins. This. This. This Anthony Davis stuff. I know we talked about a little before the show. It's starting to pick up. There's a lot of smoke around Kyrie Irving right now. So, you know, all of a sudden Kyrie Irving is starting to backtrack on whether he staying in boss Varian now, I know people are saying oh kyri and Anthony Davis in Boston. I don't think so kyri Irving, and I'm this is on a thorny from players around the league, and Kyrie Irving has texted players in the league and been like, hey, what do you think in this off season you thinking about teaming up, and it's not just the guys you would think like Kevin Durant lower guys on teams that have space for max contract. Kyrie Irving is a different do. Did you see what he did over the summer? He liked joined an American Indian tribe went back with his heritage. He's definitely different. I don't think you can just read he wants to stay. He's he's a just a different cat. He he has his own way of seeing the world. And the one thing about Kyrie he told people years ago. He's like, I'm not I'm not going to be Kobe. I'm not playing twenty years. He just signed on for a second. Movie. Thirty years old. I mean, listen, if you go look at shacks career shack was in it for about ten years, and then shack got paychecks. But he wasn't as he wasn't as aspirational or driven. He moved into a Hollywood thing near the end. Now when you see this stuff with Kyrie happening. You wonder okay, Anthony Davis? If you're the pelicans, I think the trade talks are going to ramp up this weekend on I'm just absolutely shocked that people don't think Anthony Davis is headed to LA, by the way. Anthony davis. Is the sound not great. But Anthony Davis basically said today, it's interesting that it's my time. I've given the franchise six years. Charles Barkley went nuts last night. That was so distorted I mean, I like Barkley. He's fun. Do you know he forced his way out of Philadelphia? I know forced his way to the rockets. Get over yourself Barclay. Let's let's here. Here's the sound from Barkley last night. Adam several need to block the why I don't like what the liquid doing. I don't think is right. I don't Lakers. Yes. I don't think what did they do. We're colluded notice collusion. Let's say some risk. Paul got mad at me. I said a month ago. Oh to fix us in Dave is going to the Lakers. He didn't like me Santa fix was in. Has been in. I think Commissioner darn who I like a lot. Did you come out says, hey, we can treat out Davis? But he cannot go to the leaker have. We cannot have players and agents colluding to set the stack super team for the record for anybody. Who's over fifty years old, David folk and art and aren't Talim ran this league for twenty five years. They called David folk the invisible hand of union negotiations, and he was a big the lockout. He had great influence. He was Michael Jordan's guy in Jordan was so powerful that when Michael left the NBA the ratings left forty five percent of the rating just disappeared. And you imagine how good things would be for the NBA if Anthony Davis and LeBron were in the playoffs together in the Western Conference. Oh, no must see TV. Of course. That's another reason. I think it's going to happen Berkeley's way off base. I would say the perfect scenario for the NBA is Durant and Kyrie Irving and go to New York. That's happening. The Celtics still have a good team. They'll sub good team. The Celtics will be another number two seed Anthony Davis goes to the Lakers. The warriors are still very good with Steph Klay, Draymond. But they don't have Durant. And now the Lakers warriors for about a three year run is a back and forth and Houston, by the way, harden and Chris Paul they'll be fine. Have it? Good coach and GM. And you'd have what the NBA has always been an extremely top heavy talented. It's Knicks Lakers finals, can you? Imagine something insane. Like that next year. I Kevin Durant against the LeBron again in the finals with Anthony Davis. Kyrie Irving Zion. Williamson think about this. If let's say the Rams win. And let's say the Lakers land, Anthony Davis, and you were the L A times. And you could only one of those stories on the cover. What would be the stores? He's going. I think it's fifty five forty five ram. I mean, I think he'd have to come with a combination of it. Yeah. The delay center of sports universe. Yeah. You right down the middle. Anthony Davis on one side right now are the more popular franchise. In fact, the Kansas City New England game got double the number of the Rams saints. So no question Lakers are a bigger story in Los Angeles. But I think you'd have to say Super Bowl and then right underneath I was at the Lakers. Sixers game talk into an LA times reporter, and she told me that the top stories on their website the LA times this week where Lakers. Anthony Davis Rams were like third or fourth. And the Rams are in the Super Bowl is the Lakers town college will know that people love the Rams, it's not a slight. We're talking about LeBron magic Davis. Listen, I've said this for years. Starbucks started in one thousand nine hundred seventy one it didn't really flourish until nineteen eighty five and I wasn't drinking it until the mid nineties businesses. Take a long Amazon was selling books for a decade. That's in takes a long time to get people out of habits, and this has been a dodgers in the summer. USC in the winter, Lakers and the kings for a long time. It's hard to make people change from Saturday football to son, even as big as the NFL is people in this town have gone to the Rose Bowl of the Coliseum for years and had Sundays off negative convince them to what happens if US football gets good again. Well, they're going to be good again. Right. We would agree on that. They got some players know you'll see you'll be good when they gotta make some. Yeah. I know health what about UCLA chip Kelly there. They got a year or two Greg Jennings right and wrong coming up on Monday, speak for yourself as around the corner. Car shopping can be confusing dealer price list price, invoice shows, you what other people paid for the car you want go to truecar dot com and check out their true price. Three grand can be saved off M S R P one. Thank Jerry Rice, Chris Broussard, Mr. Aram, Eric Dickerson. And of course, Jason McIntyre. We will see you Monday following the Super Bowl. It's the Ron burgundy podcast. It's the Ron burgundy podcast. 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REShow: Warren Sapp. Hour 1 (10-01-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Warren Sapp. Hour 1 (10-01-19)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One sports net production available on apple podcast and podcast one. Hey football fans rich Eisen here. Are you an Amazon prime member. I mean who's not but did you know that if you're an Amazon prime member you have Thursday night football. That's right Thursday night. Football has returned the two prime video for a third season in the cool. Thing is you can catch all your action on your TV on the web or on your mobile anywhere in the world and the experiences Sirius' next level with prime videos x ray feature. You can access next. Gen Stats play history and team information and now it's available now. IOS android enjoyed fire tablets and fire TV and if you're ready to hear new take on the game you can switch over to sports broadcasters Hannah storm and Andrea Kremer for the play by I play so if you don't have cable or simply want to experience the future of football tune in this Thursday coverage begins at seven PM. Eastern and kickoff is at eight twenty. PM Eastern also available on Fox NFL network NFL NETWORK SIMULCAST is subject to change Thursday night football presented by Bud light platinum. Wow Hey everybody welcome this dish another rich Eisen show we are live on the air. At and T. Studios we have reached the corner post points of the national football all league season all but two teams have played four games already and we kind of are beginning to figure out who's who except for very large portion one of the NFL and that's where I'm GonNa hit my four down segment later on ever. I do it every single Tuesday take stock in the National Football League give you my thoughts on what's going on in the NFL and with as I mentioned thirty thirty two teams have played four games right now and all my gosh was last night a very difficult finish two week number four I mean it's it's a great time for the sports world. Let's just stay a little bit positive here to start October great monk it's October. We have reached the first of October in this month. We've got a playoff baseball and in fact it starts starts tonight. The National League Wild Card Game Doer die in Washington DC eight is the the nats hosting the Red Hot Milwaukee brewers who turned it on on turned it on the minute Christian Yelich fouled a ball off his knee and ended his season. I mean it has been as soon as that happened. You're like well. That's it for the for the brewers brewers destroyed the competition and along with the cardinals eliminated the cubs from contention ended Joel Madden's tenure in Chicago essentially and now here come the brewers tonight getting set to shock the Washington nationals who shocked everybody by getting in the play-offs period and it was the nats making the playoffs not Bryce Harper after Harper leaves to the phillies. How about that for a turn of events playoff baseball has begun and again it is so intense it is like this in October for baseball you root for or your team your favorite team. It's the third inning and may may fifth third inning. Your favorite team walks leadoff batter on eighth. Okay Okay Fine Gael Right. No big deal no big whoop. Let's say Saturday October third third-inning. Your team walks the leadoff batter freaking out season's over season is over that guy scoring your team's not scoring wearing anymore or that guy scoring and it starts a five run third inning and it's over. CD's on is not to be reminded of that also the NBA. A season starts this month. We had a great chat with Chris Mannix yesterday. Just kinda get the hoops juices flowing so we're going to begin to you see more and more. NBA Stars posting and that I don't mean posting up I mean posting on social social media I mean the social media world is the NBA's and we are all paying rent Hashtag NBA twitter it is it is just going to be a fun on month. Hockey returns the puck drops tomorrow night on the pucks on the hockey season and then there's the bengals in this Joe's okay. I just here's here's the thing and I know professional. Russian athletes do not want to be talked about in this manner. I feel bad for Andy Dalton. I just feel bad. He's a good dude. Everybody knows in western New York Buffalo what he does charitably because they gave his charity when he eliminated the Ravens to put the bills in the playoffs a couple years ago learned about him and his wife and his family. Everybody in the state of Texas axis knows about Andy Dalton all the records. TCU Guy Kinda just deserves a better football fate. I honestly watching a football fate. His resume dotted with great games great football games. He has lit up scoreboards. He's had weapons. He's had offensive line. He's defense. He's had no luck doc at all. No luck at all and his career goes down in flames unless he has some some sort of renaissance. Maybe with another team. It just looks like it's not GonNa Happen with the Cincinnati bengals where he just he's three and eleven in Primetime Football Games. His worst games are in front of the whole country tuning in and it's not just games where he throws three four interceptions. It's games in which he gets three four first downs and a quarter or a half. I feel for you. Bengals fans to I mean you've got a new coach coming in here and and the offenses regressing the almost one week one almost ruined. Everybody's suicide pulls week one by winning and Seattle and we came in here. We went high register on the bengals off yards. Put up a ton of points. I just went higher register here. You know the bengals almost one or week one when you go high register on the rich Eisen show. It's a symbol that you don't really believe what you is. GonNa last. What's currently happening because you see what happens Monday night and Mason Rudolph is checked down Charlie. I know he finally threw a touchdown pass to a wide receiver and he did one with Juju Smith Schuster in his first career starting in San Francisco but due to the rest staffed catching it right around the line of scrimmage but Mason Rudolph is still learning. I mean he's clearly looking sometimes deer in headlights buddies making the throws to his running backs and found Nick Vernet is new tight end for big play last night he did Talton couldn't do adults got mixing in Geo Bernard Jalen. Samuels is looking tastes hill back there so kudos to the steelers to get creative when they needed to make some yards and make first downs and put points on the board. They're the ones were sitting here at one in three insane okay. Let's see what we've gotten our backup quarterback for the next few weeks because we have no choice while the bengals wondering what's going on on in the fans what's going on in. Aj Green wine or would he come back to this and one thinks someone's going to win in next week because the Owen four bengals take on the three in one Arizona cardinals unless it would be fitting for both that the cardinals cardinals leave it. Oh three and two and the bengals go foreign one. That's coming up in week number five that we're beginning turn our page to it was tough to watch last night. I'M NOT GONNA lie but but at least espn is just has put something in the Karma Bank because the week five Monday night game is the browns coming off of what they did in Baltimore going to San Francisco to take on a Niner's team at sat out on the biweekly and watched every other undefeated team in their conference lose their the last remaining undefeated team in the NFC and we've got the goat Jerry Rice calling in middle of this very program he was in Arizona watching Seattle dominate Arizona but watching Larry Fitzgerald Surpass Tony Gonzales to overtake him second most receptions in the history of the National Football League behind only jerry rice in eat moment that Jerry was there for NFL the grind my new epoch show that I host on Wednesday nights and so jerry was there as a grind correspondent all suited and booted played golf with Larry too so he's going to join us on this show and he's not the only first off famer on this program as a matter of fact if you feel the energy if you feel so the figurative hurricane literal hurricane as well if you feel that it's because Warren Sapp's about to come out of our green room. He's got a new podcast. We don't say how about that remember times. He made fun of me for having a podcast talking about it. He's on a promoted. It was with dancing the stars last night. Were Louis came up with an injury. raise out on. He's on the D. T. W. S. I. R. Jeopardy's on raise out not to return right. It's the designation return you can't. There's no dancing with the stars his comeback for Ray it's over so warren his teammates with Derrick Brooks who I believe is in line. It's either hammered James Thrash to hear Avantis Perfects Appeal Warren's already made news news with this podcast with drew Rosenhaus whose client blocked me on twitter last night as a lot to talk about Jamal Adams of the jets will be on this program as the jets are winless in the AFC coming off their bye week taking on an eagles team that started the week by putting Green Bay out of the ranks of the undefeated and that's the team that the jets are going to try and get their first win with potentially Luke Falk because has anybody renamed their fantasy team. Sam darnold spleen yet but what's going what's going to web. MD The and getting a photograph of a spleen. It's got to be a spleen or just the darnold point animation I could be yeah. The Donald Point Animation is out indefinitely mononucleosis explain explain this point is going to do it is going to do and that's the new drop mice this give me by spleen at this point giving him you plane at this point. It's going to do it. It's GonNa do we go. Most jets quote ever after oops. was that my lineman's Bud and David Boreanaz has is going. We'll be back on this program. He's a diehard Eagles Fan. He's a big time fantasy player and he's on CBS's seal team and other hits show for this man. I'm going to open residual checks next to him. Man Man knows all about that Warren Sapp Jerry Rice Jamal Adams David Boreanaz our poll question before we turn our attention to the man man that is on our green room couch over there Chris Yeah. It's kind of the season of backup. QB's which backup quarterback would you want starting. If your team needed it kyle Allen Teddy Teddy Bridgewater Chase Daniel Gardner Menchu by the way Colonel Allen Teddy Bridgewater to Winnow Chase Chase Daniel won the game technically for trubisky he gets that's and that's why Windsor fallacious for quarterbacks because trubisky gets the win in officially and Gardner Menchu is one Leonard Fournette inch on a two point. Try Away from being three now so go to at richeisenshow and vote. How'RE YOU WARRANT SAF. I wonderful sir. You sure are ninety nine problems podcast that is the voice of the ninety nine problems podcast the host of it Warren Sapp Pro Football Hall of Famer live on the rich Eisen show. Don't you dare miss it. When we come back. Everybody's got a to dualist drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list and the good thing is you don't have to drop off or pick pick-up anything. All you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance extra money in your pocket of course this. This may be the most rewarding to do you do today dancing with the stars fans fell in love with us now on our site and of course. NFL fans know of his work for thirteen seasons on on the grid iron. It's been six years now since he was inducted into the pro football hall of fame on the first ballot my old buddy from NFL game day morning back in the day and now now the host of his own podcast you know at least the joke warns my Gosh the number of times you personally happy New Year Limitation Awesome thank you by the way you have a number of times on live. NFL Network TV ON NFL NFL Game Day morning you look at me and go. Do you ever 'cause we don't walk and you might you might know there is an iron rich Eisen. There's three is in Michael Irvin but so I had to do something to self promote. Listen Okay right but this oh no bene- podcast cast because I've been here since day one and then when they put too much. There's nothing to watch my guy do what he does Christ. There's no better host is better. You know man full sports guy for me. I I mean I've grown up to you and Stuart Scott TV with boo and different stuff that later that'd be that that was growing up into the NFL which you so. You've got a chance to what choose a cigarette. You and I have never talked about Stewart. Oh we had him since Orlando. When I was in high school it's right yeah. He comes in high school he did. He did his Orlando Local in Orlando Orlando at my high school. He was Roger Wingfield cover me so that was a nice school so I've grown up to you. Trust me that that's that's me unlike cable television until I got to University of Miami. I found air conditioning and ESPN that was never going back and they say that college players don't have any perks. What do you think of that news. That's coming out here to the state of California that that you can make money off your name. Likeness Kness in image has always been at the cutting edge but always been like Rachel says what Negro spread his wings and fly so California's always been a place Atlanta in a milk and honey I mean why wouldn't you allow these. It'll bannon shoot them back in the day for their likeness on the video game everything so there's always he's been. California said the cutting edge because why should nick Sabin make seven million dollars in the kid that is neat. I got one for you on a Saturday afternoon everyone in College Football Football Stadium if they get hurt. We'll get worthless cop except the players. You know what you trip in the stands in in a stadium they will take care of you. The kid that blows his me out is done because you scholarship because he gets so that they so who does take care the like the knee surgery and stuff like that the doctor for the team who pays for that the university but then when you have lasting lasting injuries from this knee no longer in school who takes you there. Here's what I think of. Sometimes you know it was I forget what year was Texas Michigan Rose Bowl. Oh six I it was right around the Vince Vince young had already left. You know he was there. This was his lateral aw Vince young he's last game Texas. I don't believe Ms. USC. Yeah because you can get in the Rose Bowl and the reason why I bring this up is because was Suzanne. I got a call from Brooklyn Edwards who he knew and said hey you know it's it was Christmas Day. The Hotel Room Service Bruce was not really working. You had Chinese so nate now Delicatessen so you the reason why he says he said so suzy's like we gotta go. Let's let's get them lunch the very least so we picked him up and Mike Hart came over to our house and we've ah fed them Deli but on the way to pick them up from the hotel to go to our house. There was a player for the University of Texas that was walking on Santa the Monica Boulevard to walk to the McDonalds to get food. It was the late Cedric Benson. Oh that that Braille and goes and we're like that's the star player in the Rose Bowl walking on Santa Monica Boulevard where there were no sidewalks to go get McDonald's because and and pay for it himself and this is the whole thing too is but if said Benson had the ability to do something for an Austin car dealership or something. How about this though let me ask you this what if though you were there if these rules took place down in Florida Miami what how would that have however ever change the scope of things for you and because you know we grow up in Taiwan and one no anonymity one. No social media wouldn't of army that you can carry behind you do that. Most people read your tweet so you'll instagram post in Washington news or read the newspaper. You know what I'm saying. That's the kind of thing that we've built now so with building that we have to spread down to the kids because we call issue gear we used to wet. Miami the grazing elusive right below shirts. We had no money to go buy Polo at dilemma no way no way but would it have been would have made things even more uncompetitive in tilting to the you because I don't really have gotten a hundred facilities phillies. That's what all the kids don't come to the U. Now we got to indoor facility. We just got there. We went to Miami about championships. It wasn't about social media following. It wasn't about nothing we knew we we play a national championship games and we had a chance to go. That's what it was about at Miami. So is two thousand five rose bowl game that put vince young kind of on the map and then Vince the next year took care of guessing. That's my memory right there warrant Saphir on the rich Eisen show. Let's talk about your ninety nine problems podcast. All podcasts are sold you made some news who's Sarah by having to Rosenhaus on your program and him saying that people are still interested in Antonio Brown despite everything that's been going on here. What can you have you ever met more non optimistic agent in Rosa but he mean he gets a job so he feels like at any point when he gets on the phone with the being that there's an opportunity for his client? That's how that's how you always think so some of the criticized the corals our house at three in the match you no just as a joke because he'd always say he never slept. You know his book shock. Never Sleeps Bright Sharks column at three in the morning like Rosenhaus you sleep. You know like okay hang up but that's the kind of work I mean. I had to do one time talking about agents one time and I'm like you pay you Asian three percent right he's. I bet you can't can't call right now. He's not what call your age right. Now that you pay in three percent I'll call mine who answer bright eyed and bushy tailed. It was almost like a joke for me to do it right through but that's how he works and that's what he believes. I mean the fact that that Brown did what he did in Oakland and and was seen celebrating in the backyard backyard and then the fact that he got a job say that again Antonio Brown who said that the the social media has grabbed his young. Oh man and it's feeding him because more people watch his twitter and his except you any mom star Larry Allen for you call block block would've Larry Allen man is a drug and this is the social media because I never thought a player will pick a phone up in the locker room and record because because there's a bunch of naked man in the last thing you want to be doing. I mean that's the first thing you think about his. Somebody else's privacy in the locker room in the last thing you're going to do is being this out to the world live have on facebook. Hey Look I'm telling you what somebody can record it and now save it in preserving Nina last wherever you don't do that to you play around you and when he did that I'm like some wrong and now he goes over to Oakland running out the back yard. I don't think nobody's giving back that that leash that you just require you to pay for that you said at least six months because you signed up so unless he walks out on that and also and that's part of what Robert Clem Co is reporting in sports illustrated that led to the second lady that comes out and said that he he said it's out a pair hair for painting and then accused him of some other unsavory behavior the tax that he then sent out. Does that include this one. I know you were sick now. So what does it so. I ask you this so what can be done is. I don't want you gone. You just want to take me because it's all about him in the National Football League is never about one person. is never about one person on the team so it's definitely not about Antonio Brown in the National Football League in our one hundred year goodbye. No I know that but what but what about the human being and again I guess Locker Room. That's all him around him. Wanting being neon and all of us from Florida say floorboards. We walk around with a chip what I showed. Yes what we know where the line is not the cross. He's cross that line. He he crossed that line went on the run now skidding and sliding all the way down so do you do you think of playing the NFL again no okay and to do you think he will get the help that you think he needs. Do you think the people around including your podcast guest lessen the employees he's here. He's the CEO at the end of the year. He writes the check. The Rosenhaus Rosenhaus can't tell him what to do. He couldn't tell me what to do but I knew the line which not the cross that line has gotten blurred in some people around him whoever this is somebody need to grab the young man and sit him down and say son. This ain't the way to go about this. You could make one hundred million dollars in the next five years easily. You had a first ballot hall of fame career running at it for the last seven years. What the Hell Are you doing. You don't WanNa go to walk through when I walk the walk through. Rich Emmanuelli should now be like James Kenan needlework today today but aww practice right but I'm not going to walk to walk out on the field just like everybody else with my gateway to handle myself candidate getting. That's what the backup is for. When you're not feeling right you take walk? Do I got practice. LET'S GO WARREN SAPP here on the rich Eisen Show is d brooks going to hear the perfect case din. I'm calling but that's okay. I'll give you word afterwards. Check him because the doom is one of the most Faz I know but when you have a record is kind of tough so do you think it's a affair suspension from the NFL to say get out for the rest of the year devante `perfect Warren Sapp. I think he's had more then three hundred thirteen suspense to for legal hats I think I think that your resumes v. Your resume fits in for some some reason. I was talking to you in finding you really doesn't do it so we don't take the game you love away from maybe that will make some reaction short take the game away from UNC. How your reaction is what is is the reaction by other players like let's say where where where one of your teammates was hit dirty and there's a player that's out there that has this reputation has has this resume and a lot of folks are saying that the NFL PA should be the one to come out and say. Let's let's sit him down for the year two but don't leave it up to the NFL. What do you say warn. The players gets paid to be on the players side so he's like the crazy agent that thinks she's getting back in the league he has he has to be that way but at the on the player. AH The players may be with the players in the in the in the huddle. Yes Me Lynch Brooks. We wouldn't tolerate that on that defense. How so you nothing that cheap shot no body sorry. This game is a game accommodate. Game is the most humbling game on God's Green Earth. It will come back at you in a way that you never seen before. We used to call it a dirty game right back at Ya 'cause I mean that's just what happens in football. If you go after somebody this coming back it's definitely coming back and your teammates. My hip set you up for because. Does you wrong for that. Don't you just wrong for that. We don't play the game like that. This is not about hurting somebody. This is a great game. That's going to be played for a long time. We just gotTa take care of each joe knows that warrants APP here on the rich Eisen show and now so you were with Ray Lewis last night of dancing with the stars but my book Sunday Sunday bit is about to say you're weekend began with the bucks drop in the double nickel you know nowadays told you five five and nine and although the for the offers fifty Burger and Muccio doing the game we were watching. Y'All at halftime look at Jackie slater. Ron Mix told me come up to the things I sent him a pitch in my pool in and I'm I'm not coming to the booth got my books as Oh fires twenty eight to fourteen of my boys went to work. So who are the bucks. What we saw this week or assess is to me what the first four games Bruce Arians at having jamison his learn system one at the two pick six because when you look out in the pre snap at reading this Richard Sherman on running back running back not running a slap. You don't throw it out there in Utah pick six on a on a screen I think buying leftwards and coach finally got on the hate. Come out with show you then we get in the game and then kick. returner wants to return up. There's no more kick returns in the NFL. Can anybody get that through their just catch the ball all kneel down. They're giving you five twenty five. What is the problem. He wants to return the ball on the ten yard line with back. Nama quarterback is under duress those pick. That's that's when it happens whenever special teams and everybody don't come together for jam was what everything when he when everything's moving on track. He's a great quarterback. I love what he does but the bus has got to figure out a way to just slow down the mall defense that defense we loose the rams down a feel L. If we office Ganga's away from Daniel Jones was born into the league in a spectacular fashion will aw in week three and then gough through for five hundred yards but you do have the right guy coordinating their to fix it right and bowls. Would you agree or were you like I like bose's uses whole attack mode when he put the five down linemen on first now. That's a license to kill rich and the national football league. Everybody doesn't WANNA want sue. Pick one ticket to the house with my books or two and two right behind the saints and to resent coming back for another month so we are at your next game. I was thinking about going to knowledge so I was thinking about going down to knowledge and getting some broiled fish at the acne and see what's going on a U. Ensue okay because I do remember on occasion on Game Day morning. You would speak your ninety nine side about him. I'll tell you this. I've been inside the building. I went to go get my needs right now. The social thing okay he reached misset. Excuse me and grabbed his helmet. That's the only thing he said to let me since we all showtime together. That's it that's it. Would you want to have a relationship with them now. Are we go down. Warn the rich Eisen show. Who Do you want on your pod. You've had girly Jonathan Abram homemade week. One kid shame what a shame that was old enough to be his dad. Did the math him. I'm but right. This would say that I'd be like I'm like boy. We put you right in the boxing or you over the top and Lynch in the box frightening that's Kareem days would have kid like that and he loves the game. Oh I love that kid. He is going to pick a winner right there. He got one of Calypso cliffs Jacobs to this kid. That was GONNA be some running back. Diamond doesn't Nichols every time I told you this bright. I'm ED show back up to work because they're running for more now than they did. Lash right and you got brooks. Who Do you want on your pod more. You know I'm taking eight. Kamal backs to talk about right right now. I just have Frank Gould going the University of Miami the other hurricane while of famer. We're done with it. Now I mean the guy ran for one hundred yards against the New England Patriots fifty connects. I mean come on a roll your eyes. All you want Chris Player ever to rush for fifteen. He's going to be it's is. GonNa Leave. EJ Out of this thing and he's got almost thirteen thousand what you gonNA leave my guy that fifteen it's GonNa be. Amit Barry Sanders building dial franken going. It's not going to argue with Warren but name your quintessential Frank Gore moment you can tell the story the NFL without Frank Gore. I don't no man you have to talk about the top five running backs by the when you're not looking at Warren when you say that. Why are you looking at me no warrant for year. I'm in the hall of fame and I don't WanNA WANNA spit on. Nobody go jackets but there's a couple Jackson the NFL could be told without their names to so relax so he's like so rush for fifteen thousand five with the being in but you know we put the fifty fifth all-time Russia which which ones down again look it up to gale. Sayers said okay. I don't WanNa say anymore. Don't WANNA game of Horn case ace. Some guys don't deserve to be in. What's it like being in that room for the for the niche key luncheon again for those who don't know the Friday that kicks off the weekend. Where are all returning hall of famers? It's a it's a gold jacket required gold jacket only room and you get in there and you welcome in the new class by letting them know they're still there rookies again for just one more year cannot say a word can't say word right. Can I say at work you gotTa sit was Deacon Still Alive when you know unfortunately not honor and willingness started the meeting Bruce Smith kind of took it over. Somebody else had something to say a man Michael Irvin kind of brought it home my right and every year has been a little different little change. I still have yet to speak in the rain isky Lynch. You have yet to speak. You've been in their six the six year being there. You've yet to speak because every I've came back. Somebody else wanted to say something because my class was plus sales sales and Larry Allen Chris Carter you know saying a nice class with a Jonathan Ogden and day Robson Curley culp waited twenty seven and thirty years of peace so I just sit back and shut up. I talked enough by the way they just got here and told me the fifty fifth all-time you set it. Everyone's GonNa look it up. Oh Pike that's that's why they do that. Don't do that great friend of the show my Gosh Yeah can can can be told without it. Oh no why not because it's Terrell Davis won two championships can be told without it. They just say this was what to wrote. He said this was John. How to ask them to. Hey forty fifth. James Got Twelve almost thirteen thousand dollars. Komo in frank goal got fifteen and he over here being real snobby about it really I'll do that enrich. I set up in now last thing here. Let me hurricanes out of this now last thing here just coming back to the hurricane and Jim Brown is the goat. Can we please stop yelling. All these other goats well. I mean Jerry Rice. They refer to him. You're the greatest receivable all the greatest but Jim Brown now you at the U. played next to dwayne Johnson notably behind he played on the sideline. When I was on the feel ah like he's in the movies and I'm not the movie was Never Warren Sapp and Dwayne Johnson next to each other on the line. Never once never rush the passer together. They're not that I can remember okay once or twice but no. He took his job though right. Did you take never adept chart with Dewi above me on it at the University of Miami. If you can find one let me know doing. Is that how you're fired him. Dues are that's mainly. He was the start of the year before and then you came in and Ed was never to start at the University of Miami. Mock Caesar was started out in the year before that was Anthony Hamilton and Eric Miller then. Why does this story told like that. He's in Hollywood and you come all it follows a screw. You have a little trouble but following. The script is damn good at that so it was the last time so it's been a long time. That's it that means. It's a long time since I love college. Come on really league. I thought that you guys were story went to the argonauts whatever's on his last leg eating pork and beans and weenies whatever it is and totally self. Get your soap and get motivated and wants to your job and all this other careful by the ninety seven. My Chris is one. I thought you know what fine right. I'm not waking up at four thirty in the morning. We're going to the gym live with him and now he has a legit and everything in the family and a new canal. Go do things wonderful. I love watching the movies love while he's Great. He's great. I I love watching the movies I would love to come to the University of Miami like when we played Florida kickoff okay. He's not there. He's working. He's busy really gas. He's like the hardest working guy I need to do to the Kevin Patrick Inquire and let them okay. Those are the guys that used to read real real tight with always that that was his bully okay. Gotcha all right so a rock or SU. Who would you prefer to have a relationship with. I have a relationship with Dwayne. Okay okay good but Assu stuff now listen. I'm trying to get to London with the bucks or your Rudy by China now. Come on always pick the ball up. Rand touchdown good wonderful to and to love is looking good edmonstone. The ball hills amazing that was that was maybe the best game I know. James is throwing four touchdowns in the Dome to kick off season to beat the saints and I understand that I thought that was one of the the best game I've ever seen. James played played one. I he played this past week. He play one Sunday he was on. It's tough to stop only Sunday stepping up in the pocket move and shake putting the ball on him. Oh everything he he was the James. We remember him always uh-huh why he was the number one pick correct. That's what we're supposed to see from her by left which is really calm him down to where you don't have to do it. Also we have some people around you so allow them to work for oh you in. You'll never go broke making a profit good to see. Warren Sapp always great to see you. Thanks man I gotTa get you. One of my beers. You know barrel amongst made me and ninety nine beer. No it's a Belgian blonde but we only serve it in Florida so I'm going to have to ships on my least. I'm make sure you get him drunk and letting Watson Frank Locate man. They don't feed him frank twohey through. All India by Kane's got almost thirty thousand dollars with the Russian in the National Football League. You're telling me neither one of them deserted being hall. That's now I said you implied it gave strongly looking at me but not they get you at Lawrence sap on twitter and instagram. I follow him. You should not don't you ninety nine problems podcast. I do you have a million now. You WanNa tell you to name your twitter account at Warren Sapp. Who is that person years which I've been told me to put my face up this shorts make it personal to not be playing around. What does that estimate up. There on my great job may change that one because the guy QB killer the QB the guy that got killed either ninety nine podcast check it out. We're all podcast or gotten of when we come back for the TV audience. Dion Sanders had a great week picking Games and by Great. I mean all oh hi God prime. If you're sitting there in your job and your bubble bath where it's GonNa be on well off when we come back on the Yahu daily fantasy is going big this year. It's the perfect time to start playing Yahoo. Daily fantasy never play daily fantasy before Yahoo. has you covered unlike those other daily fantasy sites that let users enter a hundred fifty different lineups in their biggest contests. Yahoo has attend entry Max that means better chances for you you to win the big contests. You can also try their daily. 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Fearful Thoughts  Part 1

Joyce Meyer Radio Podcast

14:29 min | 2 years ago

Fearful Thoughts Part 1

"Welcome to enjoying everyday life with New York Times bestselling author Joyce Meyer on today's program. Joyce will be teaching from her series, the fearsome four. Do you feel discouraged or defeated, maybe the pressures of life or way down? And you're not sure how to overcome what you're feeling over the course of this series Joyce wants to help you defeat. What she calls. The fearsome fourth fear guilt, worry, and insecurity. Chances are you've been hit with one of these emotions from time to time. The enemy is quick to throw these obstacles in our way to keep us from God's plan for our lives. His goal is to bring us down and keep us there. It's time to fight back and let God empower us with his piece confidence. Love and courage. Now here's Joyce with today series, the fearsome four. This week. I'm going to do a series called. I just stuck this title on the fearsome four, because I think that there are certain things that really have a tendency to be used by Satan to try to really make us miserable, and destroy our lives, and so I'm going to teach them for different things this weekend, fear worry, guilt, and insecurity. Fair worry guilt. An insecurity and I believe that fear is involved in every single one of them course, fears involved in fear. But worry is just the fear that our needs are not going to be met that we're going to have lack in our life, and have an unsolved problem. Guilt is fear that whatever we've done wrong is something that we cannot overcome and it's going to affect us. We're gonna have to deal with it the rest of our lives and insecurity is just a fear that we're not okay. We don't measure up to what we feel that we should be or the message. The world has given us that we should be, I'm going to start tonight talking to you about fear. But each one of these I wanna talk to you about how your mind affects you and all of them, your mind is certain involved. In worry, the mind is involved in fear in guilt, insecurity. Insecurity is just a result of how you see yourself. How you look at yourself. What you think about yourself. Really, there's no message that we could teach in the word of God, that we wouldn't have to bring the mind into the bible says some amazing things about the mind. And I think one of the reasons why people respond, so well to books and teaching resources about the mind is because everybody knows that the mind, just seems to give us continual trouble. If you don't have peace of mind, and you're just, just absolutely miserable. Proverbs twenty three seven says a man thanks. So is he? You are. So does he become? I've kind of put my own little phrase of way of saying that. And I just say where the mind goes the man follows where your thoughts go. That's where you end up going as you think that's the way you will end up being. So it's no wonder that the bible teaches us that we must learn how to meditate on the word of God. Roll it over and over and over in your mind until it becomes a part of you meditation takes information, and turns it into revelation one of the problems, I think that we can have as Christians is there, so much information available today that we can get stuck at information and never really study any one thing Wong enough for it to become revelation, and it's not information that sets you free. It's revelation is not what somebody else knows it's going to help you. It's what you know, and. It's not even just what you know what, you know that, you know, that, you know that, you know that, you know, the kind of revelation knowledge that Satan cannot steal from you with his lot, Romans twelve is a wonderful group of scriptures. The to says be not conformed to this world, but be transformed entirely changed by the complete renewal of your mind now, everyone of these problems that we're gonna talk about this weekend can be leading, or kept out by right or wrong thoughts. You can open your mind to fair and let it in or you can close your mind to fear and not let it in. I think the mind is kind of like a doorway, and we have to learn how when the enemy tries to sneak in with a thought that's going to be detrimental to us are against the word of God. We need to learn how to close mind against that and say, no, no is a great word for. Christians to learn second, Timothy, two Twenty-three backs this principle up. So we're going to start there tonight and I want you to look at the scripture here on the screen or your quick in your bible. You can open it up. But what look at this, and the amplified by late says refuse shut your mind against have nothing to do with trifling, ill-informed, unedifying stupid controversies over ignorant questions or, you know, they foster strife and breed quarrels, now in this particular group of scriptures, apostle Paul is talking about the need to live in peace and to keep strife out of your life. And one of the ways that we get into strive is by getting into conversations with people that nobody really knows anything about, but everybody thinks they know everything about. And so then you start bickering back and forth and having problems. So he's basically saying they're the minute that starts you shut your mind against it and had nothing to do with it. I say myself and my. So many arguments in our home since I have learned how to do that. Years ago, I would say something he'd say something then I'd say something, and he'd say something, of course, you know, being different. We probably a good part of the time have different opinions about things. Yes, I something I'll say something, he'll say something I'll say something day was trying on some jackets from last week. And I told him that I'd like to see him start maybe wearing some, some jackets, again, to some of the meetings, we went, you know, he went kind of modern and found a little store called buckle and the guy's got so many shirts from buckle surprise. You don't have stock in the place now. And. And I said, I'd like to just see something once in a while, besides a shirt from buckle. So he was trying on these jackets, that he hasn't. There was only one of them that I didn't like, but he liked it. And I said, I'm not really crazy about them when I think it's too short. He said that style everything that I don't like that he likes he says it style. Now, I don't know why he knows so much about style. But here's the thing, fifteen years ago, we would have had an argument over that now when it gets to that point, I just shut my mind to it, and I say, okay. Do what you want to. And I go on, you can open your mind to things, and you can shut your mind things, you can shut your mind to gossip, you can walk away from it and say, I'm not gonna listen to that. I don't wanna hear it. You don't have to just let anything in your mind that wants to come in there. You can shut your mind to stuff that's going to be poisonous. Somebody at work is trying to, you know, a lot of people at work. Maybe you're saying, oh, if you heard, you know, there's a rumor that all the company may close and, you know, then what are we going to do what you can just shut your mind that because here's the bottom line if it closes it closes. And if it, don't it don't. And so if you're trusting God, you don't there's no need for you to be afraid it's going to close from now until the time it closes. So you might as well just not get into that, and go ahead and trust God. And if you'll do that, then if anybody's kept it, maybe you, and if nobody's kept, then God will make sure that you get another job. You don't have to get into all that stuff. You have to be very careful about what you let get into your mind. But at the same time, I think that we should open our mind to some things, I believe that we should be single minded but not narrow minded. There's a man in the bible in John chapter. One verse forty five. Gotta take a look at it for a minute, that Jesus had some very complimentary things to say about him, Philip sought, and found th-annual and told him we've found in discovered the one talking about Jesus Moses and the law, and also the prophets wrote about Jesus from Nazareth. The legal son of Joseph Nathaniel answered him Nazereth can anything good come out of Nazareth. Now, how many of you can say right there that he already had an opinion as was wasn't a very great place. There was a lot of talk about Nazareth. So he already had. He just had an opinion that Nasreen was not a very good place. And so how could anything good come out of Nazareth, and Phillips, said, well, come and see? And Jesus saw Nathaniel coming, which means he did come to see, and he said, concerning him say, here's an Israelite indeed a true descendant of Jacob in whom there is no guile NAR, deceit, our falsehood NAR, duplicity. Now he's got a lot of good things about the Faneuil, and I don't know the foundation of all of them, but as I was studying that many years ago, one of the things that I felt like God showed me is that one of the reasons why Jesus, like Nathaniel so much was. Because even though he had a preconceived opinion that nothing good come out of Nazran. Especially not the savior. He was open minded enough and humble enough to at least go see, and I think a lot of people will get a lot further in their walk. With God, if they wouldn't have so many preconceived ideas, because this is what your denomination beliefs, and well, this is what your denomination believes him. Well, this is what your denomination believes in. Well, I I'm, I'm this or that type of religion, we don't believe that, but does anybody ever take the time to look at the bible? Because that's what we really have to all believe is the word of God. And I know that different people put different interpretations on it. But there's some things that you can't miss. I mean, I'll just give you a few examples like you, you might say, well, you know, I don't believe in tithing. Well, you could not read your bible, and not believe in tithing. So if you don't believe in tithing, it's probably just because you don't want to live. Are you might? So I don't I don't believe in speaking in tongues. Weird people do that. Ooh. That stuff from the devil, and you hear about, oh, that went away with the early church. See those are things that people have heard, and so they spend all their life, believing that and if they're narrow minded and we'll check it out for themselves, then they can mish great blessings that God has for them. Bless god. I don't believe in that laying on hands for healing. I don't believe in that stuff. Well, you know, if you get sick enough, you might change your mind, you know, you've probably should read your bible. How many of your whisper tonight? Don't just don't just be bullheaded and not be open to letting God. Teach you and to learn, it's amazing what we could learn from everybody were around, if we didn't already think that we knew it all. Gotta be very careful about what comes in here. Your mind fear in particular, I believe, enters our lives in the form of a thought and then it creates emotions and sometimes I think that the thoughts, although they're hard to deal with are easier to deal with than the emotions because we are very feeling driven. And fair is a very strong can be a very strong, intense feeling that tries to move us to either take some kind of foolish, ridiculous action are it tries to prevent us from taking an action that would be a good and godly action. There were probably even people in the here tonight that when, when it was offering time you might have initially felt in your heart that you were to give a certain thing, and then you thought about it, and then you thought about what you're going to have to give up if you did. And then fear came. And so you went ahead and did something that was just comfortable. We all go through that everybody goes through that. I mean they're still times in my life when God will ask me to give something or do something. I mean I've got enough experience now with God that, that I know pretty much when he's asking me to do something. But still if he asked me to do something that I don't really wanna do if I think about it too long then fear can begin to get in there about what kind of sacrifice I'm gonna make and what I'm going to have to, to do without if we can ever learn to not let fear rule our lives. We're going to be two hundred and fifty percent better off. I'm not gonna stand here and tell you that I've got a message tonight that can keep you from ever feeling fear. I believe that there will be times in our lives. But we will feel fair because I believe that, that is the master spirit that Satan uses against people. Thanks for listening being courage with today's offer the fearsome four. This teaching series is available now as. Either a four CD set or digital download for a donation of twenty dollars or more US funds, and we do accept all major credit cards. You can order today's offer from our website at Joyce, Meyer dot org. Or you can call us toll free at one eight hundred seventy nine zero zero eight nine again, the number is one eight hundred seventy nine zero zero eight nine. Experience. God in a whole new way at the Joyce Meyer conference. And I don't care what it costs me. I'm gonna go one hundred percent with God and I'll tell you he is going to do things in your life, that we'll just leave you absolutely amazed coming to Grand Rapids. Michigan June seventh and eighth at resurrection, light shirts, all sessions are free. For more information and a complete conference scheduled, visit Joyce Meyer dot org, or call one eight six six see Joyce. Thanks for listening to a joying everyday life. Our mission here is Joyce Meyer ministries is simple. 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Leaving the City of Regret  Guilt  Part 2

Joyce Meyer Radio Podcast

14:29 min | 2 years ago

Leaving the City of Regret Guilt Part 2

"Welcome to enjoying everyday life with New York Times bestselling author Joyce Meyer on today's program. Joyce will be teaching from her series, the fearsome four. Do you feel discouraged or defeated? Maybe the pressures of life are way down. And you're not sure how to overcome what you're feeling over the course of this series Joyce wants to help you defeat. What she calls. The fearsome fourth fear guilt, worry, and insecurity. Chances are you've been hit with one of these emotions from time to time. The enemy is quick to throw these obstacles in our way to keep us from God's plan for our lives. His goal is to bring us down and keep us there. It's time to fight back and let God empower us with his piece confidence. Love and courage. Now here's Joyce with today series, the fearsome four. One morning as I was doing my regular routine. I really remember the Lord speaking of me insane. Are you gonna fellowship with me this morning are your problems, and your sense? Do you spend more time with your SAM's than you do with God? Do you spend more time thinking about what you've done wrong what he's done right? Where sin does abound. Grace does much more about now. We're gonna go to Romans chapter six. I'm going to try to do something here that sometimes I hesitate to do because Romans chapter six seven eight or a little bit intense in that you have to really study them for usually a long time before they break through that old religious mindset that we have and really begin to dawn on us. What God is actually done for us through Christ. But I'm gonna take a chance that I've got out some of the really serious, folks this morning that are really wanting to learn and go on with God, and I'm going to believe the people watching television or the ones who got his lead to turn on today and you're ready for a breakthrough in this area. So Romans chapter six again in verse to how can we who died to sin? Live in it any longer. So he does us I sent his dead all let me tell you San is alive and well on planet earth. It will scream at you day in and day out, but we're dead to sin. What do you mean Joyce, we're dead descend? I main that as a new creature in Christ. You have a new heart new want to a new attitude and the truth is, is that the new you the God filled you the spiritual. You does not want to sin. The I knew we're gonna have to go slow. Now, did you say even when I said that I'm sure the first thing you thought, as well then why do I? Well, you're going to see an eleven verses I hope to show you that you're not seeing yourself, as you should see yourself and you're not properly looking at sin for what it is, can I tell you something sin has been taken care of? Everything that we need to deal with sin every time it raises its ugly. Head has been taken care of the first thing that you gotta know is you are a new creature in Christ. All things have passed away. God says I will give you my spirit, I will put a new heart in you. I will take the Stony hard heart out of you and give you a heart of flesh sensitive to the touch of gun. That means that on the inside of you God is living there. The Holy Spirit is living there, you don't have to really be afraid of falling into sin. I hate that I fell into sin. We don't fall into sin. We choose it. Now. Sometimes we choose it before we really realize what we're doing. You know, you can get impatient or lose your temper, and those are things that I would call just for the sake of talking about it sins of the flesh. They're just that old stink and flesh, they'll rearing its ugly head. We just got some more growing today. But I honestly don't believe if you really understand who you are in Christ. And I think that's a lot of it that we're missing. I don't really think that you can purposely knowingly habitually sin. I said, I don't think you can purposely knowingly habitually sin. And God saves your heart. And just in case you think I've lost my mind. I've got scripture, the backup everything I'm saying. What I really believe is. Sometimes we're afraid, almost to preach, the kind of freedom and the kind of liberated attitude that I'm going to preach to you today, because we almost think, well, if we do that, then, aren't we giving people licensed to thin if you tell people they don't have to be afraid to send aren't you just inviting them to sin now because the whole point is, is, you've got a new heart and you don't want to anyway. Why in the world would you be here today? If you were looking for a reason to send. So why should I talk to you like you're looking for a reason to send and leave you in a bunch of fear? You better not seen. Bursch three. Are you ignorant of the fact that all of us who've been baptized, into Christ? Jesus were baptized into his death were buried, therefore with him by the baptism into death. So that Justice Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the father. So we too mind, habitually live and behave in newness of life. Now, what this really means is, we have to learn how to identify with Christ. And I don't know how to get you to believe this except just say that, if you don't ever get around to believing that you're going to have a hard time. But what the bible really teaches us is that Christ was our substitute, and that we are joint heirs with him and everything that, that he suffered to gain every victory that he gained for us when he took sin to the cross and died there with it that moment, sin lost its power over anyone who would really believe in Jesus Christ, because what God saw. Aw. On that day on the cross in cries. He saw every person that ever would believe in his son. Jesus christ. And trust him for their salvation spiritually, we were in him when he died, we were in him when he was raised from the dead. According to the bible, we are seated right now in heavenly places in Christ. Jesus even though we're standing right here right now. We are also in him. And if you'd never know who you are in Christ. You're never going to get this. When you buy times. He said, do you not know when you were baptized, you're baptized into that, that I die to the old way of living. I'm resurrected to a brand new life. It's not just some holy bath, that we get are some ritual that we go through because we're supposed to. There's a wonderful, wonderful meaning to baptism. It's an outward sign of an inward decision that got already knows that you've made, but you're actually making a declaration to the whole spiritual world, including evil spirits. Look at this. I'm dying to you and all of your way of living devil. And I'm raising up to a brand in life through Christ. Gosh. If we would ever know what he's done for us, and who we are in him. Now, listen. We send, but I do not believe that our Dimity is center. And I've had a lot of people give me a lot of trouble over this. But I'm so convinced that I'm just going to step out and say it again. There's a difference in who you are. And what you do. My children are my children. I don't like everything they do, but they're still my children, and you don't wanna mess with my kids. Matter of fact, I don't even want you coming around telling me what they do that, you don't like because, frankly, it's none of your business, I will take care of my kids. Well. Come on. If we have attitude as human beings, what kind of an attitude, do you think God has one Satan, the accuser of the brethren tries to kill us before. But what you have to do when Satan comes around and remind you of what you've done wrong, and then tries to load you down with guilt. You need to say you need to site. It is none of your business because I do not belong to you. I have died to you and all your way of living belong to another now. Belong gone. Then I'm his problem and his business and he will take care of me. And until you learn how to do that. Somebody might get happy before we get out of here tonight. Let me tell you something. I thought I studied for years and years. To know what I'm trying to share with you today. And even if I can just make you hungry. To get a revelation on this. I will have accomplished something. This is a hard thing to get because Satan is they're trying to say you've gotta be kidding. Nothing could be that good. You think you just go around and do whatever you want to, and then just apologize? It's all going to be over. We need to realize that God is the God of hearts, and he says, our heart, you know, if you're just fooling around, and you're just looking for an excuse to say and then I can't help you today. There's nothing I can do to help you. But if you're serious, if you really love God, and, you know, that Jesus is your only hope and you really want to live to please God what you do. Or you wouldn't be here today, pay for that. They're looking for an excuse to live a sloppy life. Don't take vacation to go to a meeting like this on Friday morning. That's just not. That's just not what you do. Now, there may be some channel surfers out there that are just kind of accidentally turned this program on, and you're trying to see if I'm crazy or if I've really got something that you might like to hear. And I don't know where you're at. But I'll say to you, if you if you love God, if you've received Christ as your savior, and if you really want to live the life that Jesus died for you to live. Then you're never going to do it. If you're loaded down with guilt, and condemnation all the time over everything that you've ever done wrong. There's nothing that we have done wrong that God cannot fix through the blood of Jesus Christ. Nothing. I bet you this place is got people today. And there's probably even more watching TV that you feel so guilty about the way your kids have turned out and your assurance your fault. What can I tell you something? Even if you didn't do everything, right? You made some steaks and could have done some things better as a parent, you know, what your kids can recover if they want to. My parents didn't raise me right? I had a nightmare for a childhood. Well when I was grown and I chose God for myself, he resurrected everything in my life and gave me back double for my former trouble, one of my own son. When my children were were young, I was kind of a nightmare. I didn't know what I know now and I was pretty hard to get along with did a lot of ranting and raving and screaming. I mean I didn't beat a mistreat them. But I mean it was just like. My oldest son was trying to put a load of guilt on me one day, and I was correcting him for the way he was. He said, well, if you wanna treat him either way you treated me. I wouldn't be the way I am. Oh man. I felt bad for days. And then God spoke, my heart. And he said, you know what you go. Tell him. He's got the same opportunity you head. Maybe you didn't do everything. One hundred percent right. But he can recover through the word of God, just like you did, and actually he didn't have near the problems. I had when I started and either way, I wish that I knew now I wish that I would have known then what I know now I wish that I could have done a better job than what I did. But you know what? All my kids are serving God, they all love God. We all get along good. We all have time together. My boys still tease me all the time. The youngest one was say every time he does something I don't like he'll say, I get that after you. And every time he does something that I do. Like I'll say, you know, you've got that after me too. Thanks for listening. We encouraged with today's offer the fearsome four. This teaching series is available now as a four CD set or digital download for a donation of twenty dollars or more US funds, and we accept all major credit cards. You can order today's offer from our website at Joyce, Meyer dot org. Or you can call us toll free at one eight hundred seventy nine zero zero eight nine again, the number is one eight hundred seventy nine zero zero eight nine. Experience. God in a whole new way at the Joyce Meyer conference. And I don't care what it costs me. I'm gonna go one hundred percent with God and I'll tell you he is going to do things in your life, that we'll just leave you absolutely amazed coming to Grand Rapids. Michigan June seventh and eighth at resurrection, light shirts, all sessions are free. For more information and a complete conference scheduled, visit Joyce Meyer dot org four call one eight six six. See joyce. Thanks for listening to a joying everyday life. 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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ andTravis HR 1

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ andTravis HR 1

"Woo fewer. Whoops this morning. Fewer everything know l z Rosh is not here. Roz Luke Rodgers got hope bunch of deals along the way. But he does come to work again. Not good for me. Yeah. You got a little more on your plate to arosh here. I'm AM. Sad. Key sad uses yours flunky. Anyway. I'm not sad. I'm fine. What happened was yesterday? The LA Shona video ause dancing around Keyshawn shirtless, which was by all request on an all request eight that video exploded on social media. And it's everywhere. Travis UC's of the people just taking screen shots of the look on your face it really boomed yesterday. Now. Now, you know what happened yesterday with social media? We'll get to later. I'm sure yes. The big Instagram Facebook outage it went. So that meant Twitter was blazoned and Rosh. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was one of the there's been some moments in this show Q I've been with you guys for I don't know we're going on nine months now give or take that was the most uncomfortable. I've ever been. Yeah. Wasn't with that. Either. Just I he was on the desk gyrating in your face. So. That's what happened wasn't quite in. My face was on the left side. Close enough at Rosh grows Twitter the video from yesterday. But does he pinched nerve in his back last night? Probably. So the dance. Gladys proof this out there. So just in case, I filed that you already know what it is. Yeah. He's putting the evidence on this as a fight what in a week or two. So he decided he was time zone app. So whatever is the fight tonight. No tomorrow, no vice-like on Saturday. So he's got a lot of up. Anyway, we're here key a lot of prep. That's the good news. We are here. And we gotta show to do in Tonio Brown met with Jon Gruden yesterday. And it was pretty interesting prior to his meeting. He didn't get any prep from me. That's for sure would you told him to do because that that felt awkwardly subservient. It was it was it was weird. I mean, he was Mr. Gruden this offense of genius that it was just it was a really weird exchange and listening to him talk. It just it it. It seems completely not in Tonio Brown. Well, you know, what it is? It's a change of scenery for AB, and he's going into territory, that's unknown. Doesn't know what to do or what to say because he wants to get off on the right foot? First and foremost, he wants to raider fans. The love him. He wants grooten to give him the football. You know, and he wants to just make everything seem Rosie today, and it may work out that way. They may be great for ABM may be great for Gruden. I just know my experience and other players play with me experience offense. Whether it was Keenan mccardell Gioja vicious or or any of the guys play with. We certainly felt a certain way about grooten after a few weeks and in people don't doesn't age. Like some people grow on. Right. Some people you meet them. And maybe at the beginning there, Kenna, whatever I'm not a bad guy. Not a good guy can deal with it. And then the more you're around like what like this guy a little bit of a different style. But I like it at the honesty's fair, he's gonna shoot me. So all of these things in Groezinger feels like from what you're telling me that gruden's the opposite that maybe at first blush like, okay? Full energies, kind of exciting. He's he's this guy's the guy on TV. And then you're around for a couple of weeks or a couple of months like I don't like this at all. It's the opposite. Well, what happens is it it? It's one of those deals where certainly find out about who he is in a short period of time because what he likes he likes to talk. And he he will talk to anybody in everybody and not knowing I really understand. And I really caring all rolled into one about what he saying in gets. Back to you. He doesn't doesn't understand that. How is he not sophisticated enough to know the players talked which I'm saying one thing that you keep, but I'm saying different thing to Chris eventually what I said to Chris is going to get back to you. Yeah. But, but that's who he is though he's going to you know, he's a used car salesman. And that's what he does. He he likes to do those sorts of things he you know, he had the people here at ESPN for television for ever long. It was I mean, you know, he he was like Mr. grew like, you do no wrong. Here's Antonio Brown at the press conference yesterday talking about how important the Jon Gruden piece of his decision actually was missing Gruden played everything decision will come here. Obviously, he's office. Guru. You get a sided just talking with him. He got so much knowledge of the game. He's coached some of the greatest players ever. So he knows what it takes. No. He's been around the game from any game outside the game. And his knowledge is so amazing. He did his homework on me. He doesn't seem every play out played in area in the sub. He got the details. He's a highly professional guy. Always make sure you Holly prepare he cover. Every variables when he studied players. He's sixteen NSF. She don't want SOG about what you do. Well, he always want to focus on the things that we could do be even much much more better. And when you have a coach like that, you know, like your day, you wanna be around them because you know, he's not gonna build you up for what you're doing. You know, he's gone and courage on how you always could get better when you got a guy like that who always going to help you improve and grow. That's the type of guy you want to be around. That's the gap agai you wanna play for and for me to be here Oakland, apart Oakland, Raiders and be able to be on last team has ever be here Oakland as something special in itself. So as pressure in that it's a site -ment in that. And there's a lot that come with that. And I'm here today rate embrace awed at night. So that's Tonio Brown yesterday being introduced as the newest member of the raiders, there's a whole bunch and they're done you. Let's start with the very beginning of it when he said, Mr. Gruden I mean, I I've heard players referred. Owners as Mr. this. And Mr. that, that's that's pretty common. I mean when the guy Mr. cranky or Mr. Davis, or you know, Mr. craft and all of these things that you hear that's pretty rare. I can't remember the last time I heard a player referred to their coach is Mr. Gruden or Mr. McVeigh or or or Mr. Lynn his you don't hear that never really like even it's so weird. Like, I'm trying to think like coach for CEOs say coach for so let's Bill. Yeah. And I'm just trying to think I would address him as Bill even press conferences, even coach Parcells you hear all the time. But you wouldn't here as Mr. Parcells. How did I address the coach I said coach Dungy? I call grooten either Gruden or John. Response when he would just say, John nothing. You're right. I wouldn't. Yeah. I just it wasn't you know, like mean-spirited nothing about just would say Jon Gruden. You know, grew would never call any coach, Mr. I will say foxy like the coach FOX say I would call in foxy. Trying to think I don't. Coaches coach Damister Gruden thing. Just it seems so inauthentic, it seems so Eddie Haskell they way, you know, sit up straight and at the press conference call Mr. gruden's like just be yourself. We know we know you've been around here. A long time. We know what you are. We know. How you roll this fine. We brought you in here. It'll be but be honest with you. I don't think he is media PR savvy. Clearly, right. I if that would be such the way I approach it. I don't think that he's I don't think he's had enough is as much as he's been in front of the camera and playing the NFL I don't think that he is press conference savvy. I would say, you know, I don't think that I don't think he's I don't think Pittsburgh prepared him for press conferences. Yeah. He went to a small university in a pros. He just wouldn't press conference savvy where for somebody like me, I went to USC tesla been there eighteen thousand years. He he prepared me for the press conferences prior to going to New York City New York City prepare me for every other stop in my career. So, you know, well, you had a unique experience because we like. From Los Angeles USC, which is one of the more prestigious college programs. We used to be used to be president. What we are. Now that's fair enough. But then to New York City, so you went into the two deepest markets too. That's what I'm saying. So he hasn't had gotten beat up on both coasts in the press. So it I've been able to handle it and know how to talk in front of the media and all those things where it's all relatively new to AB. Yeah, that's new to AB and Lee the was savvy enough the dis mustache away from the blonde and back to normal color. Yeah. It was. On his shirt. You look good. You look good. So we also had some into say about who he is trying to run down historically in the NFL. We'll tell you who that is what he means. That's coming up next. You know, one win a raw makes you think of Travis my high. Sure, chris. Nights. And you think of El Torito would have our right? Do like thereto. It is an El Torito happy hour Thursday or the Seychelles come visit us this morning and just a few minutes. Bring some food coupons. Get excited for that. Trite happy hour thereto. They've got amazing happy hour specials that started just four dollars like tacos, flat us route south us, those deciders handshake Margaritas and cold beer, the best happy hour in town starts at three pm, everyday only. Those was go to back in the day for me. It's still. Yeah. No. It was a go to for me though. Like when I was in college was a big goal to especially one in marina del Rey. Oh, yeah. One of my running water in that was that was the one I'm a little disappointed. I thought for sure that you're going to take advantage to say something terrible about Chris. And I was I was gonna leave alone because he tried to hit me with. Okay. Shawn's gonna love it. Just like let it go. Yeah. I wasn't even going get him. That's gonna let it go. All right. So we're talking about Antonio Brown at the at the press conference session with the raiders couple of things here what the raiders are making moves, and I like the 'Antonio Brown move. We'll you know, they obviously didn't get Levy on bell. We're talking about that. Maybe being a possibility that made it move at left tackle. But the the idea of just still not buying it. I'm still not buying because what in Tokyo Brown is say, and it's just all over the map. He also had this to say about morning to catch. Jerry rice. My goal really is to catch Jerry Rice playing with a guy like coach Gruden obviously he knows what it takes keep me upright and fresh keep me out there for a long time. So it's a challenge every year to to prove my love of the game. I'm just taking it one year at a time. Obviously my goal in the back of my mind is to catch Jerry Rice every year. I have to prove my love this year about here to prove my love. Jerry Rice is so far so far removed from everyone else in football. I mean, the what Jerry Rice did is there's ton. Tons of great players. There's hall of famers. There are the greatest of all time new have played at in this sport. And then Jerry's elevated above all those guys. I get the idea of wanting to chase the best ever. But this does seem again, it it it rings of inauthentic city that this was another example of him just saying stuff yesterday to try to get people fired up. And that's okay. I mean, I'm not mad at that. But I think that the goal chase Jerry Rice's within within fifteen years more of playing football reach if that's what he wants to do teen more. I would probably say ABC mini league nineteen years now. Okay. I would say that he needs to play another twelve years to catch. Jerry Rice got to play another twelve. Twenty years in the NFL wide receiver to lease get in the same universe as year rice. He's got a so where his numbers are, right? Nine years. He's played nine. So this is ten season. Correct. He's got a double that. Right. Jerry Rice, played twenty to believe. That's why he's Jerry Rice. That's why he's so far away. Something move as crazy like that. Like, you know, you got to. If he wants to play that low, God bless him. If he likes it. I love it. I mean, that's the, you know. It's it's a great goal to have it I blessed, and I hope that he accomplished. But I don't think it's going to happen because grew will be coaching the okay, it was funny because to hear until Brown talked about it yesterday. And you heard it in the first clip that we played he's you know, I'll be part of the raiders their last season in Oakland. I'm glad he qualified because it sounded like he was heading to a point where well this is the last team I'm going to play for and I would bet you a nickel right now. There's no way that Antonio Brown doesn't play for another team at some point in his career. He's got play Levin. More season right in every game to catch. Jerry Rice Bill. Not just kind of survive and knock around catch Jerry Rice menace. You said it best moment. Jerry Rice in is good players. Great players hall favors in its whatever at that. Stop. Yeah. I mean, and you look at the raiders, and you look at what they've done like, for instance, I'll make a comparison the Browns in the moves that they have made this off season. The the moves that the Browns go to get Beckham the the other things that the the Browns make the deal with the giants. The Browns do some things in the draft. What they've done recently with guys like Myles Garrett what they do with guide like Baker Mayfield. It just seems that that is the team that's been bad for a while. That's on the cusp of breaking out seems like the Browns are in a much better position moving forward than the raiders who might have splashy move with Antonio Brown who might have gotten a big name. But I don't know if the raiders are decidedly better than they were year ago. If they would have gotten well, first of all it's not that drafts not over with yet and free agency is neither. But they would have picked up a lady I'm Bill tight. You start to say, okay. I mean, they picked up the offense tackle they got a b they picked up a safety in Joyner. But at the same time that's not enough to get them over the hump. They still chasing Kansas City, and they still chasing the charge. I mean, I don't even necessarily know that the better than Denver Denver with flacco and flacco if he could just manage the games and not do turn over average performance. The you know in retool their secondary. Then I think Denver will be in the mix again. So the the raiders. I don't believe that they are trying to get into a deep playoff run. I believe that they just trying to survive until they can continue to keep building the roster to becomes very competitive right now, you say, well, why would they get beat AB as says fine piece AP's set affi- satisfy the fan base is going to set his fine. Look, we're not taking trying to do that. That's all that is where we got the money anyway when you bought like a crummy house, but you put a new garage door on it looks nice. Yeah. Right. And it does it looks nice when you change out that garage door it lane little exactly it's lipstick. The house itself is still lousy the Window's cracked in the foundations cracked and the air conditioning doesn't work plumbing issues. You still got all sorts of problems that once you get over the initial excitement of all that looks nice. And you realize that the place is still a dump there's not much you can do because it's interesting. What's happened with grew? And I'm talking about the raider fans in particular raider. Fans when they hire Jon Gruden were through the roof. They loved it. They loved it. And then you told them that hit. Here's what's going to happen. One two three four five. Well, one two three four five as all happen. The crazy crazy crazy raider fans. They still are all in because they're all in no matter what. But a lot of people were like, okay. And they saw it coming, and they started to think this isn't really going to work out, and I wonder for from their perspective. If seeing what they've done with Antonio Brown. Some of these other moves seeing what was said yesterday about Mr. Gruden is an office of genus if they're back in on what Jon Gruden is is the coach of that team. I just this this. This office genius labeled. It just drives me nuts. Like when is he ever been like an office, gene? So he's a good coach. I mean, but is he just is a coach football his ex football coach. I mean, he's a good coach. But this genius sort of labeled it he's been carrying around with forever. Just is mind boggling coaches get that it's like he's a quarterback expert. Okay. Well, who Lou what about give me a name on the staff when Brett farve is in Green Bay? That's what we're going with who. I we like you like you said because he was on the staff in my Ron, no, you're not wrong. It's just funny because that's what coaches do they're going to put that on their resume. Once again that's in line on the resume. But once you for instance, if I. Because he drove my coma work too. Right. I mean, I get it that you wanna be around smart successful people. But eventually when they say, okay, you go do it. And then you go do it. And nothing happens. That's on you. Yeah. It's it's a interesting situation. But I think that Tony Brown Jerry Rice, you know, he's got a long ways to go. He certainly if he continues to stay healthy, and he continued to play for the next eleven seasons is not without is not out of reach. I don't think he'll be with the raiders for the next eleven seasons. But you know, he's a he's a one of the better receivers in the National Football League. The raiders certainly have gotten what I want to see how this relationship in which John grooten. Oh, we'll hear from Jon Gruden. He's going to tell us what he likes about AB. And I want to talk more about that offensive genius label key because I'm going to need some tangible proof I'm gonna need some receipts on who he's made into an offense of genius or which offenses. He's had that are genius like as well. Plus wanna hear from raider fans? What you think about the raiders have done with Antonio Brown? Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN all of that coming up. Happy hour Thursday Travis. Yes. Any particular reason Chris just because sometimes you need a little pill will there's to grieve you out on Thursday morning. Come your food. Greer's the food Helzer thereto has arrived. There's the food key here. Oh, man, unfortunately, producer, Raj and l z are off today. So we're missing two of our faithful cast members we're gonna do. But if you need Raj should go on social media. Let's from yesterday. I wanna play the beginning. I'm gonna play the whole thing on this again. But this is in Tonio Brown yesterday talking about John Gruden ofensive. Guru listen to the very beginning of this Michigan Gruden played everything in my decision will come here of office. Guru you get excited just talking with them. All right. So that goes on and talks about how much you likes Jon Gruden after that, John you certainly going to get excited is no question about it. Offense of guru. I wanna stop right there. If I just pulled if I found a group of football fans that are they're knowledgeable football fans that are guys that have paid attention to the league for a while. And are not just guys that I love my team. Therefore, everything is great. And we started talking about offensive geniuses. We'd talk about Bill Walsh. We talk about a guy who came in and kinda innovated the west coast offense. And kind of changed football the short passing game pretending about offense of geniuses. Maybe you're talking about a guy like Andy Reid where everywhere he goes that quarterback becomes a very very good player. Very very successful player. If we're talking about offense of geniuses, and you wanna go way back maybe go back to the air coryell days in the San Diego Chargers where he's thrown all over the yard. You can even be more modern. And you say Sean McVeigh came in and took an offense that was nowhere that scoring three points game and had him scoring thirty five a game in one season. That's an offensive genius. Where exactly are the data points with Jon Gruden as an offense of genus because when you asked me about Jon Gruden I think too I think his initial run with the raiders were rich Gannon had a nice season in one and MVP great. I think about his run with your Tampa Bay team where you guys want a Super Bowl. And that team was led by its defense for the most part had one of the defenses of all times that wasn't a team that was scoring forty points game. Why is Jon Gruden offense? Jean where where's the data? Prove that he is. I think you go. I think he I she go back to the raiders as win. Al Davis put the team together. Rich Gannon was there. Rich Gannon had an MVP season. Tim Brown, Gerry, rise, etc. Etc. That's kind of where you got this from he comes from Philadelphia. The offense coordinator as a young guy who goes to a team at the raiders in that particular year, again won MVP, they were really explosive. So that label kind of stuck with him throughout his coaching tenure even when he got the Tampa Bay we win on defense. But our offense had some spurts here and there, but we were never the Rams. We were never the greatest show on turf, right? Because I just wasn't that wasn't the what you did. It wasn't how he called plays. His play calling doesn't allow for me to believe that he's in office, gene. Office geniuses are geniuses to me or guys if you wanna give labor or office coaches that put points on the board or guys innocuous replay. With think about Mike Riley to me is an offense guy who always ofensive always done. Well, no matter where he's been offenses quarterbacks. Andy Reid, Andy Reid. Mike homeroom any of those type of guys, but he's always he was linked to those guys through the Bill Wall Street because they coached in. He drove Hong to practice every day and ping. So it's kinda like one of those deals like you said just because you're on a staff with Brett farve put that's what it is. That's what it is. It's not unlike what you're talking about before. If you get picked in the first round, you're always a first round pick. You're always getting the chance to make money. Yes. But if Jon Gruden was dubbed ofensive genius as a young coach. He's that for the rest of his life. Yeah. You said to me in the nineteen eighties. Travis. Rodgers was good high school baseball pitcher. He's going to be the next Nolan. Ryan, I'm not that for the rest of my life. Eventually you're gonna have to do something. Yeah. In his true. But you gotta remember he stopped coaching. He went into television. And he did a great job on Monday night football, and he had the quarterback school. And when you see it. It's sitting down with a quarterback this guy right here in going over all his little clicker in his hand. So people the fans and stuff like that. They really truly believe that stuff in a really thought. He's an offense. Jeez. Well, every time he came. I used to say. Say watch what quarterback he ever had like what who froth right? I played witty Zony. You know, Brad Johnson was our best quarterback in Tampa and Brambles already. Good before he got to Tampa Bay these show of the people people's hotline Duarte. Hey seuss. Hey, sue sue in the morning show. What's going on? He says. Says. Yeah. To here. Thal to Jarvis. Yes, buddy. What's up, man? I just wanted to kinda agree with you that you were saying as far as, you know, Gruden you know, when when I first got hired, you know, be being a writer. Fred, I wasn't really the one to be like, oh, man. He's gonna bring the gory back. I'm really skeptical when you bring in old players like players our coaches of old to try to renew. What's was especially the game has changed. Now, you know, things are different. But as soon as he read of McMahon, I swear I was almost ready to throw in all my raider gear with with this Antonio Brown deal and the pitch that he got for them. We know now we have we have the pigs. We have first round this year next year. You know, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna try to go benefited Dow, I mean, it all depends on this draft. Got a lot of got a lot of picks. They got three first round picks. And they're going to have an opportunity to to get some stuff done for sure they've got assets. They've got space. They've got money to spend. So the draft is going to be a big part of it. You know, it is. And I think would you when you look at it. They got some assets. And I and I'm not ready to give up on them yet about what they could potentially be doing when you say. Paging Dr Battaglio Gus. Right. He's he's about that. Sereda already know. Looking at the yacht recruiters yacht that the young lady who got the scandal going on with the emissions SE? Nice boat was on the boat, and they show somebody in a little Katy. No, I think when you when you look at the pieces at the raiders have they certainly have some stuff that they could shop around move up and down draft all sorts of things to make. Hey, it's not over with yet. But it's it's still a long ways to go. They got a ways to go. Try another sprint people's hotlines. Torrents and Zach Zach you are in the morning show. What's up for taking my call gentleman? Yep. I just want to preface that I'm a little by being the hawks fan. So Keyshawn love it. When you say the hawk in the hunt. He does always say. To me personally. I don't think Gruden the quarterback grew and grew at that. I think every time that said it's more of a validation of look what I've done with other people on my staff look at where I've been. So when I hear Tonio Brown say this is like, hey, I'm trying to validate this guy. This is kind of say look here too. He is because you said it perfectly Andy Reid. We all know, he's a genius Mike Holmgren. He made Seattle get to their first Super Bowl, John. He's a true genius. You don't need that label behind them. Everyone knows it. So every time we try to fit that name in there for Jon Gruden. It just seems more like a sports when realistically he's a good coach. And I know he's a good coach. But he likes to be called a group. I mean, a jeans Mazzi Pat team on the back. He smiles it feels good validates. That's okay. If that's what he that's what he thinks about. I know when we went to the Super Bowl and in thing God he was our coaching helped us get to the Super Bowl. But the year prior to that our offense was better under done. Then it was on a Super Bowl winning team defensive oriented. Tony dungy? Yes. Or no one ever called. Tony Dungy an offense of Jeannot offensive G is not an offense of what along the way as well. All right. The Lakers are back at it in Toronto. That's coming up later today. But are they going about the last part of the season the right way kicking around next? So went over there key went into the kitchen and saw the food out there by El Torito. There are flout. Yes. I saw really sliders. Yep. Sopa sopa. This is our bomb. Yeah. They look I haven't gotten into yet. But I'm going to do it next break. Try happy hour El Torito. They've got amazing happy hour specials that start at just four bucks. Tacos. Flout Karna, sliders, handshake and Margaritas and cool beard the best happy hour. In town starts at three o'clock, everyday only, it is L thereto happy hour Thursday all day on the radio station looks pretty good with what they didn't bring in the cold beer in the Margaritas. Oh, you always get that for you in the back. If you want that's gonna Tommy's Tommy's refrigerator in the back. Yeah. Good to know. Learn something. Yeah. Espec- I'll on or negative. All right. We'll come back to and Tokyo Brown in the raiders and all that. But the Lakers key. They're back at it tonight Toronto against the raptors one of the teams in the Eastern Conference. And I wanna go back to something that LeBron said after they won in Chicago because I wonder he's right Buni kinda take a longer view of what it is. They've got going over the last handful of games. I wonder if this is the right approach here's LeBron after they beat Chicago. A couple of nights ago, we still planned playoff teams. And for young is to be able to play playoff teams on the road. I think that's very key footer for development. You know, still, you know, so we have an opportunity on his trip. We go into Toronto. Our next game. We go into Detroit was a playoff team, we go in Milwaukee. And then at a trip all playoff teams all proven team. So, you know, those games will be probably like playoff games, if we wanted to be, you know, but in between to learn so get opportunity to be out on the floor with them. So you know, you could take that out of it for. Sure. Okay. So obviously there are some opportunities to have some learning experie-. To go into Toronto playoff team, Detroit, Milwaukee these good teams, and you're gonna get a chance to play them. But. Lonzo's not there. Brandon Ingram not there. So it's not like you're getting your entire important group for next year ready for next year. They're just they're hurt. They're not whatever you have is good enough. I mean, we still have coups stare still hard to steer you still have MOVA Wagner who's there? Who's young get the the more you play the better? You get no doubt. In in. These playoff teams are trying to position themselves for certain seedings. So they're going to be going one hundred miles an hour. So you're not playing a team. That's just like, oh, we were bagging. And you're like you said you're playing against teams is trying to advance deep into the playoffs. So you're going to get the best in that allows you to play at a certain level too. So he certainly right about that. But it also gives other teams opportunity. To see what these guys got win. They're playing their best against better teams. So it's a win win for everybody. It is. And I'm on board with everything you said, but I and the good news might be is that maybe there's just enough of an exception that the Lakers just don't have the horsepower to beat Toronto. They don't have the horsepower to beat Milwaukee. So it doesn't it's not gonna matter. But it's a game. For instance, the game after next played the pistons the pistons are gonna make the playoffs because they're in the east, but the pistons are not the pisses or team the Lakers can be and the the reason I bring it up is this the Lakers thirty one and thirty six key there one day. One more win the New Orleans three more wins than the grizzlies and four more wins than the Dallas Mavericks. We're getting the Lakers are not gonna make the playoffs. And while it's not a great chance. There is a chance that you get a ping pong ball bounce the right way and Zion. Williamson is all of a sudden in the mix. So I just don't know if winning any of these. Games like Toronto. I don't think they can beat Toronto. I don't think they can beat Milwaukee with with the hand that they've got with no Ingram and no lawn with the got they probably just don't have enough horsepower. But I do think you wanna probably manage minutes and manage situations accordingly because if you can get below New Orleans, and Memphis, I know it sounds weird. But you need to go the other way, you don't need to start picking off random wins over the last fifteen games of the season, you need ping pong balls or more valuable than wins over these last fifteen games. Maybe maybe because if if you say they don't have enough horsepower. If whatever reason LeBron James the size. He's gonna put them on the back. Against toronto. Because he wants, you know. Let's put on a good show show co I see this is what you could be with. Then, you know, they're not there to play for ping pong balls. They're the to win gangs. The players are that has to come from the bench based on how the coaches put rotation out there in the minutes because once they're on the floor to play for sure in and I think that all those back to wall Luke Walton is not trying to do the Lakers any favors. He's trying to keep his coaching job. No. But he's also an employee. You know, what I mean that he if he doesn't do what they want. They'll they'll if no matter anyway, fifty games out man, my points. If the plan is let's make sure that these fifteen games, go a certain way, and he's not executing the plan. They would make a change because you have to at least do what the organization wants to do you can't. But but again coaches like players in the certain instance, they're there to win coaches ws by their name. They don't want a bunch of ales. No. So it's very difficult for outgoing coach. Let's assume he's outgoing fair assumption. Fair assumption that he's outgoing coach to help the next coach in waiting have a better roster is not easy. And when he's trying to do he's not trying to do that. No. He's not not in vacuum. He's not. But at the same time if like this is what if the order comes from on high. We here here's how it goes. Hey, look, we need to be really careful with LeBron's minutes moving forward. I know we're kind of thirty two right now, we're thinking more like twenty moving forward. And you know, who really wanna see, you know, who really wanna see a lot of over these last fifty games were real. We're really interested in seeing whether or not he's a part of our future. Una need you to play. Alex Caruso about thirty five thirty eight minutes and night. Okay. And and if he's not doing it, then you go find somebody who will because the plan is to do this. I understand that you can either be here for fifteen more games and execute our plan and be a faithful employees or we can make a change right now. It's up to. You know? That's true. No, I want them to certainly get in a position draft the better draft position. But they're still not out of the playoffs. And you know, how that goes players. They still hope and pray that they get in if this eight seven out with fifteen ago there they may feel like the clippers or whoever's in front of them get get on a slide inches drama timber wolves. You never know. All of them are ahead of the Lakers. You just don't know. Right. You don't know. And that's the way you mentality has to be as a player, you have to go out there with the mindset of we're gonna finish strong because we got an opportunity to still make the playoffs. I I'm with you right up to make the playoffs part. I'm just saying they go out there and bounced around and we all the good news. Is that if they were capable of bouncing Toronto, Milwaukee they would have started doing a lot sooner than the the middle March the raptors tonight Travis key, you know, right doing? What is that? That's the blue the raptor. That's how this whole bit started. Even there were a lot of requests yesterday. Request one day. I have no idea what that even down. Okay. I don't look like dinosaur. So because he. Remind me of blue. That's all what what does blue. That reminds shakes his head a lot. And has he's headline in the mortar plus more Lakers in the road trip. What they need to get done before the back to LA. That's next.

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