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#124: Jerry Miller  Founder of FarmersOnly.com, Advertising Sensation

Wild Business Growth Podcast

40:09 min | 10 months ago

#124: Jerry Miller Founder of FarmersOnly.com, Advertising Sensation

"You don't have to be lonely. Farmers only dot com. Well hello welcome back to the wild business podcast. This is your place to hear from a new entrepreneur or innovator every single wednesday morning who's turning wild ideas into wild growth. I'm your host max. Branstetter founder has producer. And max podcasting and you can reach me at max and max podcasting dot com for help bring in your podcast to life and using it as a business building tool. This is episode. One twenty four and today's guest is jerry miller the founder of farmers only dot com. Yes farmers only dot com one of the most incredible stories. You'll ever hear in this interview. We talked about the famous commercials. The famous jingle the famous site that has helped the lives of millions of members and we get jerry's thoughts on marketing breaking through the clutter and even some of his favourite commercials from other brands. It's farmers only dot com. Enjoy the show all already. We are here with. Jerry miller the founder of farmers only com jerry. Such a pleasure to have you how you doing today. I'm doing great. How about joe. I'm doing great well. This is really really cool. I mean i remember so much buzz that was created with your commercials and the jingle on the brand that you've created and now the fact that it's expanded to me and millions of of members is just incredible a distinctly remember first time discovering about farmers only dot com growing up. So this is really surreal. Also both of us hailing from northeast ohio. This was a perfect match here before we get into the farmers only story before you started farmers dot com. You worked in the marketing agency world. I was experienced there. It's been great. I've been in advertising marketing now for over forty years. I've seen a lot and done a lot. You can imagine working with hundreds of different types of projects but farmers only i. I always said i'm here. I am making other people. Successful came up with my own idea. Farmers only at took off the biggest settlement. You made yourself success as well. It was a passion. It was fun. So what was your favorite part about marketing in the first place. I think it was a good match for me. Because when i was in school i had a. I did this testing and they said. I tested extremely high in math abilities. But then i also got a scholarship in art for based on creativity. And i remember my guidance counselor saying actually those are like almost opposites. That's unusual because people that have a high q. In math are so structured. It's hard for them to be creative in because you're always thinking inside the box. Advertising marketing actually was the perfect field for me. Because is a math abilities of figuring out what the right demo is. Do you reach him. You know you're using television radio reach and frequency and a lot of numbers right but then you get into the advertising part. What is the message. And that's where you have to get creative. And i've always followed a simple rule that i read this book like thirty forty years ago. It said was recent trout position in the battle for your mine. It said that the average now this is again years ago said the average person's bombarded by you know at that time four or five hundred messages a day but only a few messages break through the clutter yet to figure out a way to be one of those messages that breakthrough so everything. I did for hundreds to different clients. I always use that form. How do i through the clutter. And i know with your podcasts. Business growth. have a lot of entrepreneurs listening the follow. You entrepreneurs always come up with great ideas but when you're trying to reach people if you have what i call the bla-bla-bla and message you can spend a fortune and nobody even pays attention to your message. And that's why a lot of people fail. So i've always tried to tried to break through the clutter from day one in broadcast and advertising in. That's so key in the marketing world in the entrepreneurship world to actually breakthrough that. Clutter to get your idea. Get your passionate out. That's one of the things that's fascinated me about. This world is how it is really right brain and left brain and as you said it's creativity and it's math which is why for the rest of this interview. I'm just going to throw a bunch of very complicated math problems at you okay. We could do that. Yeah but anymore. Were they trying to say that. Two plus two equals five now. So there's there's no correct answer. Let's get to the start of farmers dot com. What is the earliest inkling of whatever happened. That started this idea in your mind again. I worked with a lot of different types of businesses and clients. But i was at the time i was to win. Agricultural marketing for livestock across the country and i was talking the farmers and ranchers all the time and i met this one of my clients. She was a farmer and raised livestock. She on a personal level. She said that she just recently got a divorce and she was terrified that she's never going to meet anybody new in. How do i find. What are you talking about. You're a great person. you'll meet somebody she said. How do you meet somebody working on a farm all day in an isolated area and i go good point at right so and she said she already knew everybody in her small rural community. You know a church and functions and this and that and she was really scared and then she said to me she has. Maybe i'll try online. Dating and i said well i know that aunt member this is fifteen years ago and i said i know online dating taken off in. It seems to be working for people. I've heard some success stories and so didn't think too much about it. In about a couple months later again i was talking to refer business and i said oh by the way. Do you ever try that online. Dating and she goes. Yeah she goes on my goodness. It's said what's the matter. And she said well of the guys that contact with her from more urban areas and you know bigger markets and she goes. They can't relate to the lifestyle of farmer at all. Okay and i said what do you mean. She said well talk this. One guy and goes. Why are we meet at starbucks. Said you know seven tonight. She is first of all. There's most start. There isn't any starbucks anywhere near me. And i have to go to bed early because i had to get up at five in the morning and take care of the animals and he just couldn't relate to that at all right. Well that sounds just like city life. Yeah that got my attention. And i said I i started thinking about. That is a problem. People that live in rural areas the dating market is so small combined with a lifestyle person and the conflict of people that live in the hustle bustle world versus kind of the country lifestyle. Just got my attention. So when i was talking to other ranchers and farmers across the country out of curiosity you know i. I made a lot of friends. And i'd say. Hey joe are you married. And say i said. How'd you meet your wife and say well why she was my high school sweetheart. I talked to other people. they said. Now i never met anybody and more it really got my attention and i start dive into it even more and it was a serious problem for a lot of people that live in rural areas in especially the agricultural lifestyle. So i don't know what happened. Just said you know something. Onions start an online dating site for farmers in country. People right when i started bouncing it off of friends and associates. What do what do you know about. Farmers you know an online dating. I said why no. There's a need for it so i really start. I jumped in with both feet and put together the site. Thank goodness sinus. An advertising agency that. I had a lot of people on staff that just dabbled in technology and so it was fairly easy for me to put together. I did it on a shoestring budget. And when i launched it on the. Here's the one thing. I wanted to get across to your audience. I can't believe how many people told me that it was not a good idea. One very successful businessperson told me he goes. That's the stupidest idea you've never come up with about a year later. It was chicago airport reading usa today. And he called me up and he goes jerry. I'm sorry i said that. Because i'm i'm reading a full-page feature story about you in usa today so maybe it wasn't a bad idea. Oh my god that has to be an amazing feeling to see it. Come full circle like that. How did you get yourself in those early days to kind of keep going. Keep pushing on and and keep working on when it felt like everybody in the world except for the farmers that you talked to was like all right. Jerry what are you you know. Is this a serious idea again. I knew that i knew there was a need. I mean a serious need. Loneliness is is a serious problem. It's devastating for a lot of people so the way and marketed again. The breaks through the clutter. I always used a lot of like humor. And on if you've seen any of the farmers only commercials of course it's the funniest thing because a lot of people they would post them on youtube or you know they'd send it out viral and they go. I just saw the stupidest commercial i've ever seen. Check us out and people. They're saying they were cheesy list. That that in the meantime they were sharing with all their rents in a lot of them started going viral and it was always kind of slapstick humor to where i positioned the country against the city in situations. You know you'd have the country girl on a blind date. With the city slicker type thing and humorous situations right or vice versa. The country guy dating city girl usually a blind date and had lend itself for a lot of humor situations and you're like originator of viral content. And i feel like virology in the content world is something that so many brands companies people agencies strive to achieve these days but there's not like an exact formula to get something go viral. People just know that can do amazing things for attention for your brand. Did you set out to create buzz. Create that sort of viral nature. I think it happens by default. Because you see it now. I mean fifteen years later. See a little clip on the internet and all this is great. I got assurance from my friends right when people see something that's unusual they liked. Sheriff remember. i mentioned that every year bombarded by so many messages a day and remember fifteen years ago. They said four or five hundred messages a day right now. It's thousands you know with the internet. You don't even realize how many messages are trying to grab your attention each day in from driving down billboards bumper stickers signs. You go into a store. There's a thousand labels trying to get your attention. I mean jus- guac through through a supermarket. There's a thousand. Branding message is trying to get your attention. That's not even mentioning radio or television. Trying to grab attention is difficult. And there's true beauty in being unusual. And that's one of the things that i geek out about in this podcast on that note i think when people think of farmers only dot com immediately some of the things that come to mind are the commercials and jingle that is just immediately get stuck in your head so i'd love to touch on both of those. Where did this idea for doing commercials come from in the first place because not everybody wants to commit to that budget but it would. There's obviously some importance for you to do that. I've always always been a very strong believer in television. I mean i was. I was in radio for at the beginning my career and became the sales manager. Ver- radio station even is in radio. I believed in television because television. It's all your senses sight sound print. Everything's involved. I think video is the most powerful form of message interests even with all my clients from a lot of different categories. I'd always find a way to get him on television. Okay i mean everybody again. Twenty thirty years ago bay was like everything was newspaper. You know people are afraid to go on television. Thought it was too expensive but it's much more powerful and now television is going down. What's not going down. It's it's so frank minute right. I don't even want to call television anymore. It's still video. It's thinks you're watching. Yeah you're on the internet. I mean you're getting it with video clips. All the time he go to a news site and you have to watch five or six seconds of video clip before he can get to story videos still very strong it is crazy compelling there's a lot of upsides to it take us through crafting that first commercial and then it turned into a series of commercials. Yeah but verse commercial. It's it was. It's a humorous story because I up in southern ohio of near the corner of indiana kentucky. Ohio and my parents are living down there still and i had a Real inexpensive little. Dvr you know video camera in a couple of hundred dollars camera. Visiting my parents. I said are there any farms left around here because i grew up outside am not crazy rural but kinda on the outskirts and we had a lot of farms around us rate but over the years. They're all disappearing and it was that urban sprawl the suburbs just wiped out all the farmland. So my dad said yeah. If you head down towards indiana you'll find more farm so this is crazy story really i i said i gotta i gotta do a commercial for farmers only. I driving down the road. I see a farm right guy. i pull in. Go down a long gravel road. I bullied him in a guy comes out and you know who's a stranger driving down my long driveway. Right comes out. Started talking to him sir. Telling him how. I just started the site for farmers dating because well you know i've been married for a while now. His wife came out. There were younger couple. Middle age in all senate hit me. They had this big farm land with corn crops. That were just harvested. So they're all just cut down off the cuff. I said hey could your wife walked through the cornfields acting like she's lonely as any random person who shows up to a house unannounced. What ask right. Can you imagine this situation again. It was just. It was just a thought i go. I just visualize. She attracted so i take turn filmed her walk through the cornfield and she's just told no like a some of the crops in her hand and just kinda like days off look at the sky then after i got done i thank you so much by in and said you have any. Do you know anybody around here. It is horses and he goes. Yeah oh bill up the ill. He's got some horses ray. I drove up the hill and found his horse. You know his his farm. I pull in again total stranger. Okay i said. Hey i my story i said i'm putting together a tv commercial for farmers. Only it's dating for farmers bubba. I said can i get you to. I wanna film your horse like he's talking like you're too young but there is a tv. Show called mr ed yet. The talking horse. Right right. I i wanna i wanna shoot you know your oars with a camera so we got some peanut butter and put it on. The gun is gums and he started yapping away right and i filmed a lot of different angles and i i said what about. Can i get your dog doing the same thing so we do to the dog again. Thanks so i got this footage to put together this commercial. First of all. I took this footage. I went into production studio the production studio said jerry. We can't use this. This is terrible. It's low quality. I was it was hand held. I didn't even have a tripod. it was like the original shaky cam. It's like now now hollywood producers. Use the shaky cam. Look great to look cool. You're ahead of your time. So it was like extremely is low razz bad quality for television shaky cam and on and on but this commercial i put it together and i'm telling you for a few hundred dollars in went viral in commercial. You can still find it on youtube but it starts off it. It's the dog talking to the horse. And he goes. Where's jill in a dog. Said all she's out lonely walk into cornfields again. Showed her walking through the cornfield off at another cattle ranch. And i had these cows talking to each other and to go. They're all looking at the farmer. Holden's feed bucket in cows are talking to each other and they're going to you think dave will ever find his true love and the other cows said not hanging out with us all day and then i had I had some animation and this commercial. I mean i'm telling you. It only costs a couple of hundred dollars and also it started going viral. It was amazing. And i got it on some television real inexpensive spots and they started going viral. Then it started getting media attention on my goodness. that's a whole nother story. All sudden the cleveland plain dealer. They did a story it the same day or the day before. Newsweek magazine contacted me and they both hit. They went viral either not viral. But they got picked up by the. Ap wires is starts spreading across the country. I had over fifteen hundred requests for interviews in one week. It was the most insane thing ever. And if i was doing this podcast back. Then i would have been fifteen hundred and one. So you're you're lucky that you avoided another one there. Yeah it just kept on going. It was like every television network. You know nationally. Other local local broadcast stations did a story that got attention of the national in. Every magazine started contacting newspapers radio stations. They even got my home phone number somehow radio station in colorado and they called the goes jerry there. My way said no. He's not he's he's at work they go. Okay we'll try to contact and she said. I don't think you're going to be able to get a hold of as being bombarded by requests for interviews and they go well while we just interview you get. My wife has no no clue right and so it was like a morning talk show with the comedians on a country station in colorado. They were planning on doing like a one minute interview. They had her on there for like an hour taking calls she had no idea to stock in about but it just. It was an insane period of time. That is one of the best studies in bang for your buck. I've ever heard that commercial was like a lightning strike that started this crazy thunderstorm. Hurricane tornado of events that just created more and more buzz for you in the business in about that jingle which still to this day. I probably have the original jingle stuck in my head. How does that jingle come about. Well the head count at the line. You don't have to be lonely. Late at farmers only right ryan was definitely helped right and i believed in jingles big time because will. You grew up in northeast. Ohio i did Marketing for the loop stop. I met them when it was just an idea. It was just a concept of the ten minute. Oil change produced a jingle for them in education. One of the most recognizable jingles in northeast. Ohio and a couple other companies. We did jingles for and they always worked. It really helps you. You know brand recognition. So i always believed in jingle so have a farmers only jangle and did you craft the actual rhymes. I mean it was. Is that something that came together. Pretty quaker that take tons and tons of crumpled pieces of paper to get to know that was like it was just i mean what rhymes with only lonely so that was like a three second. You know decision. You just blew my mind right there and then that jingle has been come i it's definitely well known ed i'd be willing to bet. It's one of the more recognizable jingles in the country. Because you wouldn't believe how many again this is fifteen years ago. But it's still getting buzz out there. Fifteen years later chapelle did a skit and he incorporated farmers only dot com into a skit on saturday. Night live farmers. The punchline in a lot of national broadcast tv shows in other writers always somehow get farmers only in there. you know even on the kardashian's you know remember the tv show with the kardashians. I've never really heard of them. Well yeah right. Now i'm k. Courtney guest there. Is this thing where she goes. Yeah i signed you up on. Farmers only dot com as watching the nba game. This really blew my mind you know. How halftime if you're an nba fan but at halftime data. What's the name ernie. Johnson shaquille neo and and charles barkley kenny. The jet yeah. I'm watching this halftime show and also Charles barkley he goes. Did you see what's his carmelo. Anthony because did you see com. Royal anthony wearing a cowboy hat insecure and hillside. Yeah i saw him and he goes and all. Ernie johnson starts stinging goes. You don't have to be lonely at farmers only dot com also charles berkeley goes. Oh my goodness he goes. Farmers only dot com he goes. I saw this commercials. And i thought it was a joke so i checked it out. It's real and she killing. Ill goes he goes yet it's real. I did the same thing. I went to the site to find out. If it's real. I mean when you got shaquille o'neal ernie johnson. You know charles barkley talking about your your business in singing the jingle i mean. That's crazy isn't it. I would say so. Definitely i mean you found your way into the nba hanging with the kardashians on snl. Sky's the limit ellen. Degeneres did a whole skit on it on her. Show the country music awards with This is years ago but kellyanne. Or what's her name. Kelly underwood carrie underwood carrie underwood. She comes out with country singer and the opening of the awards. This big time country music awards on terrible with names our whatever. His name is his voice. Now blake shelton. Yeah blake shelton a broke down. I'm here for you at the names. Yeah good keep going. I guess he just broke up or something. And so kelly underwood base layers. Whatever his name is he comes out and they start singing go. Don't worry because you don't have to be lonely. At farmers only dot com. Oh my god. Yeah and on watching no highest state game in the national finals. It's like one of the highest rated ones ever twenty fifteen i think twenty fifteen and all of a sudden they did a thing where jimmy kimmel did a contest who had the most creative poster in the stadium and for jimmy come alive and he chose the one that said urban meyer met his wife fund farmers only okay now every time to stuff happens my phone like up with taxed going. Oh my god. I'm watching the game. You know how did you get on. How did you get an halftime on ours. State final the national football. And i go. i didn't i didn't set up same thing with the country music in saint every time that hollywood uses farmers only everybody thinks i set it up. No it's their writers. Their creative people go somehow. They just throw it in their family. Guy did a whole skit on farmers only so again. There's there's like literally a lot of these but it is kind of amazing. How all based idea that remember. Some people told me it was the stupidest idea ever and again back to your audience. I know you have a lot of entrepreneurs have good idea. That's based on a need and that's important thing not just. Everybody tries to build a better mouse trap and they ninety nine point nine percent fail but if you really have a good idea that you know there's a need for it don't give up. Don't listen friends relatives peers. That might not know what they're talking about. That's incredible advice and it always makes me think back to the jimmy v. speech don't give up don't ever give up that applies to so many things in life when you have a strong idea and a strong passion for an idea something you're building even if people are just telling you it's stupid clearly that doesn't mean it can't pan out and sometimes it could be the complete opposite and can just take off if you if you keep your mind right about it. Keep grinding away with that. Podcast as well. If you need help with your current or future podcast you can email me at. Max imacs podcasting dot com now back to jerry where we get a little bit wild. Let's switch gears a little bit. let's get to a fan. Favorite segment called the wild business shadow of the week. Wild business out of the week while visits shout out of the week. This is where we talk about a campaign creative marketing approach. That caught your attention. Obviously you are someone who himself in with his company. I've seen a huge amount of buzz worthy nature and breaking through the clutter and speaking about other brands. There's a particular commercial by geico. That kind of involves fitbit. I don't know if it's officially that really caught you and your wife's attention you tell us about that. I love geico commercials. I've even told some of my friends. I'd love to be on their creative team. I think the way that they do. Okay my wife. Every day she goes. Oh my goodness she wears fitbit. She goes all my. I only have five hundred steps in today. I gotta go for a walk in and she comes back later at night and says i now i'm up to twelve thousand steps. It's just so proud of herself every day. It's how many steps in over girlfriends talk about. How many steps. They got in some watching. Tv the other day and all sidon geico commercial comes on and again they never never show. It's gyco and beginning. You know you don't know what it is and it's a lady sitting on a park bench with her dog. Enter some runners. You know some joggers. Jog and by and see straps on her fit bit onto her dog's tail. Okay in his dog's tail is waving back and forth like real fast. You know everyone's like a step in the dog runs around. the park. dog comes back. She goes oh my god. I'm up to forty thousand steps. We'll hulu and she starts like high five in the runners drug running by what a great commercial. I thought i was just unbelievable because what they do is they take a real life situation that you don't think that much about put in a creative way and then it's gyco you know decision with the brand but you definitely remember their name and all marketing most people on any decision they make a purchasing something usually nail it narrow down the two or three choices. And you'd better be one of those two or three companies least on the radar if you're thinking about insurance what ian thank you remember geico progressive. Which is the same corny stuff and some of the other ones. They saw the the growth of progressive in geico through corny. Great of commercials. So what now. Every insurance company is trying to go that route you know. State farm went that route to liberty mutual. But a lot of times. I think they're forced humor. I still like the purity of geico yet and they have such a crazy wide range of commercials like obviously they have the infamous hump day. One they have the ones with the squirrels. I guess they've covered like every animal now. But there is just something so memorable about them and they're just simple not very time consuming to take in not very hard to understand but they're just they're fun in cornyn people like funding corny. And i think most importantly hopefully out of this interview. We can get you a job whether it's on the team or as an advisor to geico's marketing team there you go. I'd love to be in that greed of room. Let's wrap up with some rapid fire. A are you ready for it. Sure all right. Get your seatbelt buckled. Let's get wild. What is your biggest pet peeve Annoying people that don't realize they're annoying. Sorry about that. Not you max. On another note i love to talk about creativity. Something you said earlier when you were talking about how you started this whole rocket ship on a shoestring budget filmed the commercial for just two or three hundred dollars. You're very very resourceful. What's a quick tip. You can share about being resourceful or finding bang for your buck and things. I would say back to my original thought you have to break through the clutter if you spend a thousand dollars on marketing and everybody that you expose notes it remembers it versus you. Spent one hundred thousand dollars on marketing and only one percent of people not even pay attention to it at all. It's exactly the same. Our return on investment. That's so true in another another note. I'm sure you have endless stories from the millions of members and people whose lives you've touched the amount of people whose lives you've changed is just unbelievable. Can you share it a quick story. That's either heartwarming or surprising. Something that comes to mind about a member members who've used farmers dot com a. I do have a million but one of my favorites is talking to a She told me his story that she wants to ohio state university and her husband went to ohio state university and they actually worked out the same jim she. She actually worked at the gym. Sign and people him. He worked out there all the time too so they probably ran across each other every day but never met and she was a horse person. She was an equestrian and he was a farmer. Okay raise cattle. Grew at a and But he was an athlete. He's kind of a famous athlete at ohio state. He was on the football team. You're talking about kirk herbstreet. Now know anyways they met on farmers only. Isn't it amazing where they probably walked by each other. Every day every other day for a long period of time and they met on farmers only but she told me one of the craziest stories. She was actually engaged to marry someone but he was. I calm city slickers. But he was the city slicker. They were talking about after they get married. Where they're gonna live and she went ahead. Write out in the country and have a lot of land resources and he said why don't we can live in the suburbs will just keep the horses in the garage. And that's when she said i did. This is not gonna work out and she ended. The relationship ended up on farmers. Only and madly in love met the perfect guy. They got two or three kids now. I visited farm out in the middle of nowhere with their madly in love. This is years and years ago. My slogan for farmers only was city folks. Just don't get it. And that kind of summed it up. This guy really thought that you could just keep horses in the garage. Will my horses in the garage. Very conflicted by that statement but no that really is amazing and it's cool that even people who are living in a more city area or have lived there at some point in their life. There's a lot of success stories using farmers only dot com from that standpoint as well so very very cool all around jerry you have created so much magic and touch so many people's lives and it's so cool that it all goes back to hearing about this real need that's out there and finding a solution for it. This has just been amazing. Thank you so much for your time. Where's the best place for people to connect online with either you personally or farmers only dot com which i guess just said farmers only just go to our farmers only dot com. You can sign up for free but profile and kick the tires and all that so me personally. I'm a little bit off the radar as you can always find me on lincoln. Broadly there we go in last thing. Final thoughts it could be a quote or a lion or just any parting advice. You have take us home here. City folks just don't get it. I don't get it. Thank you so much. Jerry for coming on the show sharing the unbelievable inspiring farmers only dot com story and thank you listeners for tuning into another episode if you want to hear more wild stories like this one make sure to subscribe to this podcast on your favourite at and tell a friend about the wild business growth podcast. You can also find us on good pods in for any help with podcast production. You can check out max. Podcasting dot com until next time. Let your business run wild goes.

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Show #49 "Laughs" TV Show starring Bob Dubac, John Pate & Ron Robertson Open!

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Show #49 "Laughs" TV Show starring Bob Dubac, John Pate & Ron Robertson Open!

"This is another episode of standup comedy. Your host and emcee celebrating forty plus years on the fringe of show business stories interviews and comedy sets from the famous and not so famous. Here's your host and mc scott at words hi and welcome to this week show. I've put together something. I think you'll enjoy. I've done this a couple times before in begun over very well with the listeners. As i've mentioned. I had a couple of tv series back in the late eighties in this particular show was from one thousand nine hundred eighty seven and i'm going to present that. Tv show as it happened on this podcast. So you'll be able to hear. The comics live on stage but from a tv show and nineteen eighty-seven now cut out the commercials but it doesn't include the video of the week. Which in this case was a music. Video includes very funny song by john pate now. The comedy itself has three grade acts. The closer is bob. Do back at los angeles california. He's an actor and a very funny comic. And then the feature act was from right here. In sacramento very high energy talented comic. Jerry miller who is Not only appeared on my tv show but was it laughs in the park at the club several times and then opening things up a comic. That didn't work for us too much. He was out of texas. Ron robertson but these three great acts along with the music video that comes in the video of the week will be heard on this podcast. Nas- i said i'm going to present it as it air tonight. Eighty seven on tv. And i will just have one slight interruption. And you'll hear it as it was presented. So let's get started with this show. Our first act is a very funny stand up comic out of texas. He'd worked clubs all over the west coast He did only make a few appearances at laughs unlimited. But i know you'll enjoy him. Let's listen to ron robertson. Now here's your host welcome. What a have a good show tonight or headliner coming off. Do back right now. We have a special treat. Point gentleman comes all the way from texas. That's ron right air. You a ban these guys greater what you're looking like. I don't think so pal. Got like a comic to me boy her from accounting then he said and from texas amazingly enough in texas the thing. We're most proud of the alamo lettuces an amazing battle one hundred and fifty brave but not bright taxes against three thousand mexicans. Yeah fifty against three thousand now. Obviously math wasn't strong. Suit here going our at hundred vehicles into three thousand now. I can see how they somewhat confused three thousand mexicans. Now has roughly two carloads right picture to fifty seven chevies coming towards the alamo santana driving going get down. This hill turned on the radio. Sunday here or why day. What defend at the best entertainment towns not any nightclub go to mcdonald's. Location makes no difference to costs two dollars and fifty three cents paid for it with three one dollars bill. Now stand back and watch you may as well ask the russians to the moon all of a sudden manage. I'll be right back. Notice the difference between a man and a woman killed bug guy can be reading a newspaper bug across awhile ago. Not a woman a woman and make a safari out of it right start to stock that baby rising try and find the biggest thing in the house to kill it with right like telephone book back twenty. Beat run any making karate. Sounds now chance this bug heart attack. Espn squished not. Kill him or something that bay. She's not going to throw it away with one piece of tissue us a whole toilet paper right. I think it's like what are you doing. Yeah but you realize you have a five dollar bug and you also knows the difference between away a man and the woman game. Wait now the hamlet see gangway seven hundred pounds big factor goop wife game three ounces joe but here look over and go you know hunting vada way to get rid of your big. He's got an option right. Honey you gaining weight to this guy get an attitude right hill the wear the same damn side of pants i did and we got married so yeah but honey you wearing them down to here now. He knows a good man in shop. You guys realize that women go shopping in trump close with no intention of buying. Go figure man now guys. Don't do this stay in iran going. You're you go to the mall. Like on some bands like hail england. Look at me herb. You scaring me. Also article in esquire. Talking about new contraceptives for contraceptives. Not about the rescue guys. But so far. The only contraceptive i've needed has been my personality. You can read my new book. Sullivan slimmer let new pill for men right. Ladies think that's a good idea appeal for me and let me ask you though. Would you ladies trust the guy to remember to take these things. You may as well buy a bassinet tonight. You believe that right now saying that debris class in high school was supposed to help us do some kind of let us down and teach. We could really use key example. Driver's education drive the way they taught you in driver's education In the eighties. Drive that way. Now you're a dead man right. Taught us this kind of stuff right. Have you ever seen any primate. do this before. Come on. I don't know about you guys. There's only one hand signal. I ever saw used car. Didn't tell me which way to turn either. Did it joined the show. Ron robinson ladies and gentlemen. Let's go to a commercial break. We'll be right back after this. That was Ron robertson in. He is a very talented comic out of texas. Not sure what. He's doing these days. But as i mentioned he made a few stops at the club back in the late eighties. And i'm sure you enjoyed this comedy. Coming up now is a local comic. Jerry miller and also a music video. That was part of our video of the week that was presented on our tv show as a said earlier from nineteen eighty seven. I also wanted to point out that you may have noticed that my voice is rather horse in these introductions and what it was from. The tv show was the way television works is. We actually taped three different half hour shows in one night so it took us probably two hours two and a half hours with all the breaks and setups and tear downs and the audience was great and hung with this but what was interesting. This was the last of that evening in other words. I'd been emceeing for several hours in because of the high energy the tv show. I trained my voice. So i come across rather horse. I just wanted to give you a little background all right. Let's get back to our tv show from nineteen eighty-seven here comes a comedy set by jerry miller a video of the week and right after that i'll go into our headliner bob do back. So let's hear some great comedy. By jerry miller. Welcome back folks. Hope you enjoyed the show. You gotta tell all right. We have someone very special for help. This gentleman was one of the finalists of the great northern california. Comedy competition Let's have a nice round. Plus from nova county jerry miller right here jerry. Miller give up trying to do for the wine country. We'll get some wine drinkers here as great right on your been the wine country. You've been wine tasty. Then those guys paying. This is a sharp natural likable k. Fresh knows one of the legs. I wanna walk up to these guys go. Oh dude put a hit on. That bad boy shows you like as well as shows like mutual of omaha kingdom. Yeah me too idiot. Marlin perkins it psychic jungle gym mental giant. Jim was here. He's getting the dookie kicked out by a wild end. The marlins helicopter with a pitcher amid juleps saying. Yeah while jim place tag. That king cobra fly on ahead. That's up another batch of these corporate head butter maybe to kick the dookie out of him writer boy when you're tied up like in uni mutual of omaha the all time greatest wildlife series. This is the undersea adventures of jacques cousteau devils into the of and dover to the ocean down nail we discover how strong ronge and unusual creatures and then a different habitated. My son joke s. He decided to try his hand. At this clinic. Elude of the animals we seek it. Lingus monitors gama known. Is the details. Well real unusual america. They were on the ocean floor. Spawning this is win. The mail mounted they be that the home next week when my son is. He showed dive into the icy. What the guest. Alaska william an attempt to use correct. They bamako's detest killer. Wear to be better moving experience. You've been a great ground. Have a good time. Jerry miller goldberg joined the show right else. Go back on the streets and take a look at tony. Came phone taken away. Tony making here with another home video of the week and this week's home video the week. Thank you this week's home. Video comes to nashville tennessee. Where john peyton center in a country western video. So let's see john. I everybody knows. I love my wife. She's a sweet as she can meet all but she's got a knack forgiving her way. They don't feel so good honey. I'm tired and i can't take no more black and blue. My head is sewer. Thanks go dark. And i hit the floor and you don't feel sorry for me. I'd say that road. Thank you can throw a tantrum fit you that on a date. I don't find spanish. I guess it's only fair. But when she goes into her why pour it's time for medicare her face stirs red meat. Thanks y through the air. I got your member for her next birthday to buy tupperware one day that cantor day talking about a divorce. Does i keep guessing one of these days. I'm a sure. And i can find respite. Peace no more panzer as well as we get older. You could throw tantrums over with scream as lance thunder. But it won't bother me. Wow what a great bill. And that was that was from john. Paid for nashville. Tennessee banks a lot. John scott we'll be back with more laughs right after this. We'll be right back with more laughs right after this right now. We have our headliner for tonight. Show a regular. Labs them workforce many many times over the years. He's an actor. His work a lot out of los angeles is going to make things so. Sit back ladies and gentlemen. Let's air bob do back right here bob. Well thank you very much. I guess you can tell them wearing glasses. Those of you can't probably need them glasses. Make you look smarter. I guess is that the The adage what do you wear important. I'm gonna make you think of scott said hope. Nobody has an aversion to this. Well just bear with us for a while right if you are thinking. You will laugh. If you're not thinking won't laugh good genius in the back. That's great You guys we only use eighteen percent of our brain as it is eighteen percent. That leaves the rest. I think we'd ever think about think about it. Come on if god created time ten minutes early. that means we'd never be late for anything. Lived every day like it's the last day of your life that means one day you might be right. Now you're thinking costume paraly- we put a chair in your head. Go out his used gum. Think about it. Think about how you can have some fun tomorrow. You have some fun you drive down the street and people bust up waiting for a bus drive past a row. You win down. Hey by saint coming today rolling up you check out before you leave rearrange. The furniture freaks out the maids and they don't speak english so they can't complain to anybody. Can they the truth. Time you a department store. Pretend you work there. Somebody comes up to you all the time and says hey you work here. Yep how much tv take it. It's yours go ahead and laugh. Laugh all the time you laugh. You'll never die. You know this. I've never seen anybody stretch out the grin on the face of you. Think about it laughter. Therapeutic. it is good for you. It releases endorphins in your brain. That's a body to kumasi to morphine. You want to catch a buzz. Tell yourself a knock knock joke all right. Lord norman cousins proved this in the hospital riddled with cancer and put it into remission watching old buster keaton movies. You want to get rid of a cold. Hang out and watch your young drivers. Try to get on laugh. Laugh all the time when you laugh laugh when other people are ticked off. Because that makes it a hell of a lot for you. You're in a traffic jam. The guy next horne cussing at you knew the window. Just turnover go. Make sure your doors lot. You're in an elevator with a bunch of people push all the buttons of the top out. Go back down. Pick up another group do it again dude all day long. You don't work there. You pick up somebody a second time go hi member me laugh and thank you wash hands. Somebodies sink in the bathroom sink. Is that little brass dish tool soaps. Use them you know these. They look like roses and apples and oranges and shells their soaps us and i mean us every single one of them to use them so much all a bunch of grapes. When you throw them your hands a little dirty and wipe that off white monogram styles. Nobody uses either. Hang outside beauty salon and laugh at people coming out. Come on laughing. A boy. I tell you. I'm tired of stupidity in public. I mean we can be morons on wrong but let's quit being morons in public. What do you say you want to look for your keys for an hour. The privacy of your own home fine with me. Don't walk around outside going where to put them. We can see. I think if you if you get caught doing something stupid and public. You should get charged for making a lot of stupid law office. Billy bush about the elevator. The elevator button is lit. The elevators coming. Somebody will walk right in front of you and push that button again. Hey five bucks damning coming any faster. Let's go five. Why because he did something stupid. I caught you be five bucks pay. Hey it's the long stupid love you never heard about it. You know why because you stupid. Now you'll be ten bucks. They pay bruiser stupid charging five more house down south of people talk stupid more. I'm not saying the sound moronic. Mendome not women. Southern accent on woman is pretty sexy going to department on chemicals and help you guy. it sounds stupid. I know we'll get drunk. Piss on log. what he's i Hey by buxbaum stupid. Because when they move their lips give no a bunch of quiz down there. Some poor bastard from new york bar in montgomery alabama. But you read next. Look go how you doing there. He's like kick your ear to here. You got out what you're talking to you too. Don't you have a good night bob. Do back we'll be right back after this welcome back. We'd like to thank ron robertson. Gary miller and of course bob new back the show was bob do becker very funny headliner. That worked for the club for many years. He was also an actor. And you might recognize him if you Look them up. On google from several tv shows but he was one of our regular acts allows unlimited and a very funny guy. Hey i hope you enjoyed this podcast. There was some terrific. Stand up comedy by ron robertson. Jerry miller and bob do back in somewhere in the middle there. You heard a little music video done. By john pate. That was all part of our tv show in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. Well thanks for listening. We hope you had a good time. Be sure to tell your friends and share it and if you get a chance go to our website and let us know what you think. Thanks for listening by. You enjoyed this episode of standup comedy. 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081: Growing a successful business with solopreneur and artist Brenda Priest

Artist Soapbox * Local Artists on Creative Process

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081: Growing a successful business with solopreneur and artist Brenda Priest

"Hey everybody welcome to artists. Soapbox artists soapbox podcast featuring triangle area artists list talking about their work their plans their manifestos. I am your host. Tamra sane brenda priest is a pen in an artist and solo entrepreneur in this episode. She talks about her journey from a nine to five or two freelancer to running her own successful business. During our conversation brenda doles out some incredibly helpful tips for budding entrepreneurs from the practical to the philosophical. She even shares her excellent excellent elevator pitch. I was really inspired by brenda's drive community spirit and intention -ality and i love that she's constantly learning. I'd love love to hear your takeaways from this episode on facebook instagram twitter or email at artists soapbox at g. Mail dot com brenda priest creates. It's incredible hand drawn sketches from photographs of buildings including homes historical buildings and collegiate landmarks recently she was commissioned to illustrate sports stadiums throughout the united states including lambofield wrigley field fenway park and dozens more check out her website your door and more dot com to see her work and read stories of people who received are striking drawings as wedding gifts anniversary gifts house closings and more brenda is the twenty one year resident of holly springs north carolina being a stay at home parent. She converted her freelance work to a full-fledged business. She says that all she learned came from the collaborative experience of her fellow business owners enjoy the episode hi brenda hi there. Thank you so much for being here today. Hey let's start by talking about the scope of your business. Would you describe the work that you are doing. Yes i am <hes> brenda priest. I own your door and more panic illustrations. I work from photographs. I work on top of a photograph. I i sketch homes buildings and architecture. It's completely hand drawn. I used drafting tools like a t square technical pens rulers and every single line that i draw represents form texture light in shadow so with these lines i bring life to a particular structure and the landscape surrounding capturing the essence of what is important and the focus so really every detail is important. My sketches are completely black and white. I don't add any color. I have been asked many many times. Can you to watercolor top. Can you colored pencil this. It's not my groove. I have found a niche that really works for me so i stay exclusively black and white during during christmas season or i call it christmas in july because i don't really do any sketches and december. I will add a red bow on a wreath on the front door or on windows and those are hand colored but that is the extent of my colorization of my sketches now. Why did you do this by hand as opposed to using fancy computer software application this pen and ink drawing technique is something i learned when i was an intern between my freshman and sophomore year <hes> i have a degree in interior design in architecture and my summer job was working in design office and being so junior they threw you in the drafting room kind of the bullpen were all the grunt work gets done and i was sitting next to this quote older man probably in his fifties and now i'm in my fifties and and but anyway i was i was nineteen at the time so he was an old man. We were drawing in pencil drafting these particular blueprints and he said why are using pencil. You need to be inking using these technical pins so over over that summer. He taught me how to do this. Technique called inking or pendant inking so it is a refillable cartridge pens the brand i use kohinoor and i use a waterproof india ink and it creates very thin lines depending on the thickness of the nib so it's it's similar to a calligraphy pen but it is minute and it is one thickness per pen <hes> so this technique is brought back when i went to back to college and it was just just in my arsenal of skills but i never really used it until i was on maternity. Leave was working looking for an architectural office in kerry husband and i had a her child i was headed on maternity. Leave and we had a sweet young bubbly internet that would come in and i was feeling ninety nine months pregnant and the intern would come in on monday tired and haggard looking and i thought what man she's living vivacious. Lee tell me about it reagan. Tell me about what you're doing and she said well. I'm going to school fulltime. I bartend and i'm doing any sketches on the side and i'm like talking about. She said i am ten ninety nine inning for this woman. Who does the parade of homes sketches. Oh and i thought wow that's really cool so we talked about it a little bit over lunch and she said yeah i just i just need to quit. She is so much work. I can't can't keep up with school interning hair and bartending on the weekend and i said gosh. I knew i know how to do that. I learned how to do that in college so i i met the woman <hes> at that point i was living in holly springs and this woman lived in few verena which is literally like five miles from my house so really <hes> turned out to be an amazing long-term relationship. I never went back to work. I became a ten ninety ninety nine employee for her. I paid my taxes. I literally picked the workup from her with my two kids in tow went home. Put my pajamas on. Let the kids play and i worked at the kitchen table doing these sketches. And how long did you freelance before you made the leap into starting your own business. <hes> i started freelancing in ninety nine and two thousand eight when the housing crunch occurred is when the work dried up for her <hes> which meant the work dried up for me. Her husband also started working for her. He was in the construction field and it dried up so he started working for her as well and then my kids were going to elementary school preschool elementary school so so it was an opportunity for me to figure something out. I knew i loved being mom. That was really important. It was a conscious decision that my husband jim and i made for me to be mom and that is what i had that is what he had and and we didn't have a fancy minivan. We didn't move. We've been in our same house for twenty one years. We don't do a lot of fancy vacations but i was mom and that was really important so figuring out what i could do to have income to do have that connection with my kids. I'm a flexibility like stability yeah year round school that was that was a big thing we're in wake county and we had year round school and and i love the concept but i was not sure how to re enter into the workforce after being out for eight years doing doing this obscure hand drawing right so it really was a natural evolution of okay. I have this skill and i didn't consider it a talent. I felt it skill and it took me. I i think at least ten years to say it's a talent. That's kind of a personal evolution that i went through well. I would like to interject here and say that i've seen your drawings and absolutely it is a wonderful talent they have they're beautiful and also skill because you mentioned that you learned how to do this technically but i don't know many people who could do the kind of work that you do you so i think we all have to walk our own path and accepting our artistry and that isn't evolution over the course of our lives but i'm glad that you that you got there but it is a leap right because so working for somebody else in an office and then becoming a freelancer those are two distinct steps in in a career path but making the leap from being a freelancer to being your own boss and all the complicated financial administrative administrative even psychological <hes> burden that can come with that yes that's. That's a big jump. Can you talk a little bit about how you got there yeah <hes> in business it is called. What is your why w. h. y. And my why why i was doing this was my family. I wanted to maintain that mom presence. I wanted an income <hes> i. I wanted something. That was completely my own. I wasn't working for somebody again. The the year round school issues <hes>. I became a mom for newer and that is a term that is out there. You can google it. Minorities working your business around the lifestyle of your family and with this business. I have five years ago. I basically shut down the business because i have my mother-in-law to take care of and she had alzheimer's and it was the hardest but it was the best two years of my life but then when it was she passed i was able to pick it back up and move forward so it's a lifestyle choice choice. It's definitely entrepreneurship. Mom preneurs ship <hes> business ownership is a lifestyle choice and there are some sacrifices i mean less than it was up till eleven thirty working on projects but the benefits is this one i go somewhere. I'm sitting in the dentist's office. I met carpool. I have my sketch board and i'm working on landscape. We're doing the straight lines but i'm working on the squiggly lines in the grass and the overall <hes> composition so christmas in july eli. Is that an example of this kind of flexibility so you you do the work for the christmas. Projects in the middle of the summer are so that you're not working through the holiday season yes and that is something that i learned. That was a learning curve. <hes> <hes> there had been several years that i did not get my christmas decorations nations up until like the twenty second just in the nicotine under the wire so i <hes> it. Was that learning curve of no. I i love projects. I love orders but <hes> my boundaries are. I really don't take projects after thanksgiving living because it really gets busy and there's other things i need to be doing and there are a lot of arts and crafts vendors shows that i do during that period as as well so i really only still sell stock images at that point talk a little bit about the stock images because i don't think we covered this as yet so in addition to drawing the custom drawings wrecked of homes. You also draw other things. You talk a little bit about that. I do <hes> the the right and the ownership people have of their alma. Mater uh-huh of their high school of their town is incredible people love where they've been so i do have some many many many many images of locations patients in holly springs because i lived there and have lived there for twenty one years and it's very growing town <hes> but i've got lots of college sketches there matted in a plastic sleeve different sizes but u._n._c. chapel hill u._n._c. greensboro do n._c. State meredith and the list on so. I'm trying to add at least one a month and when i get a specific request i have a friend. Her daughter just got accepted into clemson. I did or a clemson sketch so so it it's just a nice memento. It's excitement if a child is graduating high school and they're going to clemson in and excited in something they're going to stick. Maybe anna in a frame maybe they'll stick it on the shelf and when when they're adults they'll open up the bookshelf and say oh my gosh i have to sketch of clemson and i went there and i love my alma mater so it's a memento of period in time an era that people can go back and think about we're we're very transient people uh-huh so capturing that moment <hes> just driving over here today i thought of a phrase capture sure your history <hes> i draw your history and i think the fact that you do this by hand adds another personal touch to it sort of filtered through another person's eyes somehow makes it even more special to receive steve. You know it's <hes> because i do think that what you're offering has more impact than just just photograph and that's not to denigrate photography as an art form but for example a photograph that i would take on my iphone there what you are offering up is is is the acknowledgement of the significance of this place and you're and the stories associated with it and i imagine that when when people receive these items they have all sorts of different kinds of responses do you have. Do you have a story that you could share related to that. I do you <hes> there are lots and lots of hands over the mouth l. hands over the mouth. <hes> tears gasps. How did you do this. This can't be real. <hes> it really is exciting and that is one of the things that gets my mojo going. Is that emotional response that i have to them seeing seeing my art work because this piece of artwork it's from my soul but it's not my complete creation. I'm really of vessel a tool for them to capture their image and <hes>. I have some really great stories. <hes> uncle eddie was a veteran and every other sunday. He came over to sunday dinner and he posted the u._s. Flag on the porch and saluted the flag so in this one sketch the woman said you've got to put a flag on this porch because does it brings me back to those sunday dinners often i am working with the memory keeper of the family whether it be a son or a daughter her and <hes> perhaps dad has passed mom is in ill health moving and it's very hard because these people up in this house <hes> one particular family the dead past mom had alzheimer's the kids had to sell the house and the mom kept calling her son her husband's name she was just stuck in the past so i did the sketch and he gave it to her for mother's day several years ago and she opened it and she turned to her son in said kenny. This is is our house so it brought her back to. This was my house. I was lived there with my husband and i had children so really was he. He he called me. Actually crying this grown man. It was very emotional another. We'll talk a little bit about the banners but i have another. They're fabulous banner story. I was at an event in durham. This giant burly man came up to me greying in the temples and he looked at my sports banners and he pointed out three rivers stadium and he started tearing up and he said i'm gonna he pointed at the banner he said. I'm going to tell you something about this. He said i'm going to buy this super. I'm going to tell you a story. He said i was a young teen and philly. I was about twelve years old and he said i was on the verge of getting in trouble getting in trouble. We'll get in trouble. He said someone at our church saw. I was on the verge and got me a job. After the football games a crew of teenagers swept the stadium you start at the top and you sweep all the trash and the detritus this down to the bottom of the field and then they have these bulldozers that take all the trash away and he said he did that for four years. He said he would take the subway home at like two in the morning but he knew the next day he had to get up and go to school because if he did not have good enough grades he could not what do the job and then his supervisor at the stadium recommended him for the naval academy this young boy from philly recently gently retired from the navy o- showed me his navy ring and he had tears in his eyes he said you don't know what this means to me. This stadium this banner so even as we talk gives me goosebumps yes. It's really cool. That's those are wonderful stories. Thank you so much for sharing them. I think i took us a little bit off track because we were talking. We started talking about the arts entrepreneur entrepreneur ship and how you got into that and then we also started talking about all the great stories related to the homes so i wanna take us back. We'll walk it back a little bit. You wrote <hes> you when i exchanged some emails prior to our interview today you wrote with a degree in interior design and architecture could sketch but didn't know how to business my kids went to school and i went to barnes and noble to learn how to run a small business so i'm curious about kind of the pivotal business ideas that led into your success and if you had any missteps along the way oh yeah only only one point million million <hes> my process was seeing yes <music> and that is something that entrepreneurs will say he say yes and you figure it out later so i said yes. <hes> in holly springs things at that point <hes> there was a networking group and met at a coffee shop once a week. A friend of mine dragged me along i had met in the p._t._a. And she's just com- you're starting this business. You've got to kind of figure out how to do things so i went to this networking group and it really was a group group of individual business owners. There was a realtor. There was an attorney there was several multilevel marketing individuals walls insurance people security and then there was this artist brenda so i just kept going back and end in these networking groups i learned how to present my concept might product and what we call a thirty second commercial and that is a very common business term. It's something that all of the business classes teach you if you meet someone in in an elevator under literally seven seconds. What can you say to them. In those first seven seconds that will make them listen to the remaining twenty three seconds so you get that hook you figure out what that is. I learned how to introduce myself and make conversations shins with individuals. I attended different meetings so once. I got comfortable going to networking meetings in holly springs. I was like oh. There's one in kerry she's going there. Oh hi no her. I can hang out with her for a minute and then branch off and introduced myself to others or find something talk about with others so then i started going to a networking group and kerry and then i went to one and apex and then i went to chapel hill and i found because because i was so unique in what i did and i was able to offer these sketches i found i was getting getting quite a bit of projects from networking so i just figured it out. <hes> i took some some classes. One in particular was one hundred days to abundance and it was an in person class. It was a lot of homework but it it really taught me those basic business principles. I have a degree in interior design architecture. I don't have a business degree. Where did you take that class. It was in raleigh. I believe bill. Davis is teaching this class still to this day and it's a business class. It is a business class interesting tang okay. Yes i also attended several free events. Wake tech offers a lot of non credit credit. Continuing education classes quickbooks marketing pinterest facebook all of these tools that you need to run a business. You can do them online. I was actually looking last night. There's one. I missed on oetzi. Let's see that's offered by wake tack but it's been recorded and i can go back and watch it <hes> so that's on my to do list so brenda. What is your elevator your pitch. Would you say my elevator pitch. When you go back to your hometown. Do you drive by your old house to see what it looks like the condition yes absolutely if you do i i am able to work from your photograph to create a hand drawn sketch to capture those moments in your memory you that you can hang on your wall and look at and remember forever brinda priest your door and more penetrations well done. What a great opening hook. That was it. Is you create create a picture using words. I love that you started with a question yes because then i couldn't disengage right. I couldn't like tune you out and be in think to myself. Blah blah blah her business. Blah blah blah like i had to be not with you in that conversation. That's really good yeah. I like that thank you for sharing. I use that often now. You talked about how when clients. Let's see your work and they have this kind of response. You also feel that like you get goosebumps. The hair on your arm stands up. You know what i mean and you feel emotional along with them but based on what you're saying now and the conversation that we had prior to today. It sounds like you also have a certain <hes> <hes> more objective approach to your product so you in other words you kind of treat your art like like a widget like like a product that you are selling. Yes and that seems really important. Could you talk about that a little bit because i started doing the sketches ages as a contractor the individual that utilize my sketches it was simply a marketing tool for her for her okay and for the builders it was a pretty picture that they put in a magazine to sell a spec house to sell a subdivision up for planned banned books for them to flip through. It didn't have any emotional attachment to the end user. It was a widget. It really was a widget then when housing crunch came in two thousand eight. I was racking my brain again trying to figure out this this skill into a business. I did a few sketches for people for friends. Oh it's my mom's birthday. Oh it's this something something something something so. I did a few sketches and i was really blown away at their reaction and then. I just thought i could make this into something. It is very unique. There is a longtime artists in kerry. His name is jerry miller. He is the e premier pen and ink illustrator on the east coast. He's also i would say in his eighties he is he's not able to do the fine detail work pen and ink anymore. He does have an order fulfillment process so he supplies a lot of of artwork two gift shops and its stock imagery is colleges universities <hes> small towns he would would go up and down the east coast doing arts and crafts vendors shows. Jerry miller started lazy days in carey so he didn't have to travel in august because he he lives in kerry. I met him through my former employer and he grabbed my arm and he said i'm so glad someone's doing this because this is really important but he wasn't doing. He wasn't often doing individual homes. He was doing more buildings structures for towns and iconic landmarks so i knew you what i was doing was very unique. I'm not the only one in the world. There's if you google if you wanna oetzi you'll find other illustrators but i feel like this is my <music> growth. This is my niche. I've been doing this for thirteen plus years now on my own and there's not a lot of market saturation. Let's talk about the banners yeah you you also draw stadiums and big slick sports arenas. I'm not a sports person jason so i have a hard time talking about these things are talk a little bit about how how this contract came to you and how it all has unfolded so so this is my pivotal business concept right here okay and it is yes yes so in january a two thousand eleven i literally got a phone call from a company in the midwest called winning streak and all they do is make sports memorabilia banners so they do penance. They do hanging signs they do all kinds of things in this is all they do you so they have deep connections with all of the n._f._l. Teams owners players managers that whole microcosm microcosm of sports memorabilia so their competitor came out with a new line of products and winning streak wanted kid to have something even better so their images were photo shopped images were hand drawn so they said we want to create create the twelve cooperstown baseball fields for you to hand sketch them. We're going to print up a small run and bring them to our trade. Show bill and see how it goes before we did that. We had to come to terms financial terms right again. This is two thousand eleven. I'm it's not that far into it. They said we're gonna just pay a flat fee and i said okay. I really wanted a price per piece but they were not willing to negotiate <hes> it was a hard no they said we have done this in the past and it's not financially profitable for us and if you don't take it we'll go to the next person awesome. Wow so i thought long and hard i talked to my husband about it so i figured okay twelve sketches times my flat fee. That's good. That's a good consistent price for a mom. I kept i kept for a mom. I say that often for an artist business person it was it was a good deal so they did the sketches since i've been working for them. I have literally not met these people in person. Every transaction is done e mail and phone call while for eight years yes <hes> so they send the first acquire the license for the particular product. They send me the image. I'm sketching from. I do the sketch. I scan it. I upload it to their server. They send it through the manufacturer. They send me a sample and then i order product and then they're sold all over the world and they keep coming back to you for more so do hasn't just been twelve sketches. No i have seventy five plus sketches so i have sketches for the n._f._l. N._f._l. So we're talking teams like the philadelphia eagles. The phil leased the cowboys so i'm not a sports person. It's satirical so he'll call me up and say okay. We're doing bryant denny stadium. Where is that and i and i say jay okay. Is that baseball or is that he's like. Oh my god brenda in easy out more. No i'm with you. I've never heard of that place in my life alabama emma okay college. Wow i've learned a lot. I have tried to catch up on the everything so seriously i have not met these people people in person ever ever ever ever ever and how did the end. They found you online then have done they did my husband is a programmer so i've always had a pretty decent website with good s._e._o. Search engine optimization so that's how they found me <hes> so it sounds like what you're saying is that you made the hard decision to say yes to these sketches even though they wouldn't negotiate <hes> anything other than a flat fee eh by saying yes to that it gave you the opportunity to then do a total of seventy five at this point and in growing and growing and and a business relationship that has lasted for eight years correct. Yes there are some times and i i thought many times uh-huh okay. This isn't worth it. I'm not going to do this anymore. But now i have so many of these banners i sell them and arts and crafts vendor fishes so last year two thousand eighteen i sold six hundred and fifty banners holy smokes this year on track to sell nine hundred plus. There's lots of sports fans there a lot and that is a whole direction. I never her thought this. Your door and more would take ever so. I love my name your door and more because i don't know what the more is. It's evolving and that is a key business. Principle is evolve or die evolve or go out of business figure out how to move with the tides and move your direction. Coke wants to change a product. How long take right coca cola right. You're you're more nimble. Yes as a as a solo for noor. Yes yes. I can modify any volve as necessary so saying yes to this. This business idea was huge. It was huge so so winning streak sells them wholesale to whomever would like buy them <hes> so you can buy my m my banners on on amazon you can buy them at walmart dot com you can buy the mets sports fan dot com you can buy them at the team shops themselves the stadium mm shops but you'll never see the collection all in one place except for me right so it is really exciting when i set up my booth for an arts and crafts vendors show you know i try to hang as many as i can. It takes space six oh time but just to look around like wow this. Is it really cool. I want to switch a little bit to talk about something that you are involved in and that is the launch holly springs program you you said you've been in holly springs for a couple of decades. Yes yeah and what what is is this program. Why is it important to you. How do you see it growing. So one of the things that i i think is really important is joining and giving back launch. Holly springs is a subset of launch wake county and launch wake county is sponsored by wake tech center for entrepreneurship and the local rotaries has also sponsored by the town and business owners so it is a free program of ten weeks for entrepreneurs with an idea or <music> those with a new business or an existing business that need a pivot. The whole concept came from detroit so there there was a rotary member that was in detroit and saw that big businesses. Don't revitalize town. It's the small micro grow businesses these mom and pop shops these companies with under ten employees that are making a difference in revitalizing vitalising a town in a city that make sense yes <hes> so this gentleman from rotary brought this concept to wake tech and said they have this program up there and it's working well so this program is thirty hours of classroom training five five to eight hours of homework every single week six months of free mentorship and access to funding. Is it a certain time of the year <hes> so right now. Holly springs has <hes> actually tomorrow we graduate are second class us so there are anywhere from fifteen to twenty students per class. The individuals go through an application process us. They go through an interview process and that really determines if we feel they're qualified for this business accelerator course. We don't take it very lightly. We feel like this is the biggest special i'll give gift. We won't ever give to a business owner because it's completely free. Oh wow that's wonderful but you have to have the passion for what you're doing and you have to have the level of commitment. You know you're trying to grow your side hustle. If you were a nine to five or or whatever and you're growing your side hustle and you start taking this class ten weeks three hours a week five to eight hours of homework every week. That is a lot of intensive work and it's not you just drop off your homework and you walk out. We <unk> are forming a community and a collaborative. Look at your business from the outside so when you start a business you're in your own bubble. You see your own ideas. You're in this bubble but with launch you you have your fellow classmates looking at the outside of your business and giving you ideas and input and also those basic big business principles are brought in market research market segmentation budgeting finances <hes> strategic plan business plan all of these really basic fundamental business ideas you still i'll have to follow or your business is going to fail and it's going to fail and you're going to lose money and you're going to lose your passion so so we try to screen these individuals to make sure they have these qualities. It sounds like something that would have been wonderful for you to have then that's right yes. That's why i'm so excited about it and again. I'm a giver i just i give back. It's it's really important to me. Eh in in all honesty in two thousand eighteen we had our first class started in september and ended in november and in january i was so excited i actually reached out and i got a business coach because because i needed a refocus i needed to analyze my data from two thousand eighteen figure out what worked figure out what didn't work honed refined some things and get ready for my busy season <hes> so my busy season starts friday right which is spreading so we're recording at the end of may yes yeah okay yeah so really arts and crafts vendors shows that is where i sell the bulk of my banners this this program gave me this awesome mojo <hes> and juju to get rolling and to really put myself out there and that's when i reached you start to you yeah i do podcasts. You're just the yes so what are you seeing as the greatest need with these these these entrepreneurs who are coming through the class. Is there something that they have in common. They have in common. They have passion for whatever that is so in this class or we call it a cohort. We have <hes> someone that actually starting podcast. We we have someone that is starting a small business that does hand painted signs. We have someone that does lenna lettering. We have somewhat starting daycare. They're all really really different but it doesn't matter what they're doing. Those basic business principles are still there. They gotta learn how to do quickbooks. They gotta figure out there marketing schedule. They gotta figure out their startup it up cost. They've got to figure out their taxes. They gotta figure out sales and use tax only these things they still have to do. I think there's a lot of resistance to to this idea or at least that i see the resistance to treat our art as a business and setting aside the time to learn the things that are pivotal to our success like managing our finances and i will raise my hand. I hear i mean this is something that i really deprioritize highs in my own life but you gotta do it. I mean if you if you want to actually grow what you can share with the community he then you have to have some of these really important foundational business pieces in place if you were sitting across the table well from an arts entrepreneur for example other than saying yes which i think is a great piece of advice. Is there something that you would offer her to her. As a suggestion. Absolutely you have got to take some business class. You do and there are some. I met durham tech in the small business center. There are organizations that help women in business there are there is score which is a small business helping organization. I would join a group group of artists right here. In durham. You have an amazing arts. Council durham ours council. Oh they offer things artists. It's not just to show work on the walls. They offer things how to run a business. I would find signed a mastermind group and that is a collective of like minded business individuals that you can share ideas with. I'm in a business mastermind with someone that owns a ninja warrior jim. Do we have similarities you bet we do. We both own a business. Our business is different. They sure are car but to share those successes to share those failures to go on the journey of learning together so it's not just we get around and we gab we do that. We do a lot of that but every month. One of us is teaching something. We are learning along the way then we share our successes. This is our our struggles for that month. Then we set our goals for the next month then we check in mid mid month and we get together for lunch then we get together again. We're learning new topic. We're talking about how we did in our goals last week or last month so it's having that accountability that is really important. You've got to figure out multiple revenue streams and that brings me back to to my hundred days of abundance class where you need to figure out. I don't just sell the banners honors. I sell the sketches i also sell <hes> the custom work. My stuff is going to be in a gift shop so those multiple streams of revenue are generating even no. I'm not producing a sketch right now at this moment right. I've i've got internet web sale website sales. They're still working in the background her even while you're sleeping right yeah so figuring out those multiple streams of revenue far far amount any tasks that you despise doing if bookkeeping is your downfall barter with someone you do something for them. They do your books. I have done a lot of bartering over the years because it's a low cost way to do business. It's not fully sanctioned by the i._r._s. I know that but a temporary measure as a temporary measure it is a fabulous way right. I needed some new pictures done. My friend wanted a sketch of her grandmother's house. She took my pictures. I'm doing a sketch for her right right. I would pick one charity. That is you're passionate about. If you love to help rescue pit bulls which i love to do we have to pretty pity's at home donate to that one charity donate to their silent auction. You're gonna get as a business owner. You're going to get lots and lots and lots lots and lots of reach outs. Can you donate to this. Can you donate to this. Can you donate to this after a while. You can only donate so much so i kind of set a budget in mind of how many sketches i'm dole donating to <hes> how many banners i donate to but if you believe in something strongly put your passion energy into that charity and help them and then talk about it because it's a really great thing to do because you're giving back to a charity through your time talent and treasure whatever that may be. I would also ask for help if you're struggling with something. There's lots of facebook groups out there that you can talk to individuals because we're not alone as artists. We're not alone. We tend to isolate isolate myself. I work from home. I don't drive in traffic every day but you can easily ask for help. I think we can can think that our questions are only only our questions. When in reality everyone has the same questions we're all wrestling with the same challenges and and and not knowing how to take a step forward as we are getting close to wrapping up. I just wanna make sure. Is there anything else. You wanna talk about that. We haven't covered a recently opened up an s._e. Shop how congratulations relations yeah totally new to me. I'm going to take glass. It's you know once you get it up there. Yeah great okay now. It just wait now. We got to figure out how to market it right so that is that's <hes> on my slate of things to work on like i said i have a gift shop in holly springs. That's it's going to be opening. It's called our moments in time. It's an artisan gift shop. A dear friend of mine has renovated an old house. How beautiful valley springs so <hes> <hes>. She actually went through the launch. Holly springs program so she she's got the community behind her and her cohort members in two two thousand nine thousand nine hundred forty seven vendor days scheduled so some are one day show some are today shows so how can people find find out where you are and what you're doing. I have a website your door and more dot com. I've got a facebook page like i said i have an at sea page. Hey i'm working on. I will be in durham actually at center fest was scheduled here last year but then the hurricane sir throw that so. I just got notification that i was accepted for this year so i will be at center fest. I have a corner booth and really excited. I have not donna show in durham in a really long time so just spreading trying different shows <hes> staying with some shows that are tried and true but pushing myself in lots of new directions <hes> this year i also entered my sketches into some art shows which was totally out of my comfort zone because i am not a classically trained artists but i still submitted and the one show was at the coast and i sketch the morehead city train station the moorhead downtown association and bought the rights to my sketch wonderful yeah congratulations now my sketches a part of their history so they have events there her and they sell postcards and they sell prints. I also entered into the durham one hundred and fifty years show it was weird to see my workup their next to these abstract paintings than here. I am i lines are so straight and precise in black and white but it was a good thing to do because it pushed me out of my comfort zone and as an artist as a human being i need that because it helps me grow right i will include links in the show notes so people can connect with you and i wanna thank you so much for being here and for sharing all of your wisdom and also being very inspirational so thank you so much brenda thank you hey friends. I wanna tell you about show box studio where this episode was recorded. Chatterbox studio is durham's flexible rentable art art and activity space shadow boxes perfect for video and photo shoots recording podcasts like this one and holding movie screenings in classes spy club meetings or whatever else you can dream up find out more at chatterbox studio dot org and here's here's a secret if you tell them you heard it on artists soapbox. You'll get a twenty five dollar discount on your first rental. The isn't that awesome.

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The Yoga Screamer

Mojo In The Morning

11:33 min | 2 months ago

The Yoga Screamer

"In this in the morning on she's mojo in the morning mojo and be logical as what. I'm saying this is like an ordinance so alan i has a funny story to tell us that shannon you and i instantly will be able to come up with a name of a person that fits exactly this person that ellen encountered during hot yoga. Okay okay so. I was at a yoga class the other day and i specifically go with the studio. I like and go-to it's very inclusive. Like they're not like a judgy. Everyone is super flexible. Leg behind the head. People it's like all ages men and women fifty fifty split. So i i like it because i'm not judged when i got like it's very chill but i was next to this probably fifty five sixty year old guy in hot yoga the other day and he was killing it like he was doing everything. It's one hundred and something degrees in this room. It's a ninety minute class. Like it's intense. But i think it's like normal protocol to be pretty silent during yoga and this man was moaning and groaning and yelling as he got into positions and i felt so bad i was like fine. I kept it together and he did that. My people in gyms and yoga classes read the room and see that. No one else is making all that crazy. I mean like. I said it's a very non judgy yoga class so this guy is probably like struggling. And he's like this is the one place. I won't be hurried. You let your body move and make this sound. We going like. It was like your legs. Avi and we were bending in half and as he was like lowering his top. Half he was going isn't compliment to the chef. Oh great job like you doing good. And this is the noise maker. Who's the chef in this the yoga instructor. It's like the same routine every time. It's like a cycle. So i mean that's better than the noises. They came out of all. Let me tell you smell still unwritten rule that you you don't react like if someone makes a sound or farts in the middle of yoga which haven't allies. It's like this one hundred rules like you don't react but that's the only place i know where i farted. Loudly in. people didn't giggle. I swear to god. I'm like these guys are the greatest. If i went to school with these guys i would have never been so self conscious but shannon and i the reason why we say we can relate to. This is because ev. We went through a period on the show. Where at twelve thirty. Every day i would meet my wife shannon would would you know also be there the sales department people here right kelly andrea andrea and we would go to reign as classes or whoever it center for yoga. Whatever and fletch would be there and fletch was the loud guy at yoga. I wouldn't do yoga with him. He was so disruptive but he would do it like like he would let out these size. That look shook though room and he would also make commentary to write the radio. If he didn't like the song he would go next of yoga or if he didn't like the flow he would go. What is this. let's restrain under his. He was so funny. What's going on with legit very surprising. I oh oh excuse okay. He was very good at. You know. I know you got a big thing going on here right now. What's up buddy real quick. We're talking about you in the yoga classes and how you were the loud guy at yoga. That was not the loud guy yoga. You were not allowed guy yoga. What happened when you didn't like the music that raina was playing. Oh i would yell raina because well. It's the same thing over and over again. he would. You played that. Bruce springsteen song twelve times and then one time you actually got up and grabbed her matt and walked out here by the way has a new yoga. Place called the yoga gardens on a plug that she's really awesome lady like It's better tell you where she asked us. Not to tell you but flash the other thing too was you. You occasionally would do the actually host to do. I think a lot of people are timid. And don't really want to do it but you did. Do you want to get back into the yoga days again. Do you want to do that. No i can't my shoulders all screwed up. God i love. I really i love doing because you have to lift yourself up like fletch would actually do the thing where you could actually put your like knees down. And then you'd like balance on your knees and your plus must be an amazing lover a lot because of hockey too are you. Are you an amazing lover bed. Do you have any witnesses. Do we have any references. We could call. Hey hey can we do this real quick. Can i say something real quick in which your data happy birthday dad is. Is he around over house right now does he. Does he know the deal or no what. What lower yeah. He does listen to a fletch. did fletch. Fletch flew his sister in newtown to surprise his dad. Wow yeah the sweetest thing ever put your put your dad. How happy birthday to me. Happy birthday you. Good looking eight year old you've ever eighty years old. There's no way you're your role in the world. You're wow that is matt tasks lovely children. Oh i've got a big decorations around the house My daughter lives in gainesville. Florida and mike Fletch said opened the front door. And i went to the front door and there she is or isn't that the beautiful fell over. Oh my gosh. I almost spain. I couldn't believe a what a shy alumnae shock. And how long has it been since you've seen her. She came here from florida's it's been a year and a half that's awesome and a half since we've seen each. What are you guys doing for your birthday this weekend. You guys gonna have half my ocean. Brian have a wonderful dinner at oh she cried. I've got eighty year old decorations. All eight do you know that flexes dad. My hill works. He works for quicken loans and he still works every dan. How are you working. Five to six days. A week is that right. I'm working today. Mojo on yeah are you really. This guy is still working his tail off man. I love your young. Hey how is that. How's that sexy wife of yours doing. How's she doing. Pardon me how is that sexy. Wife of years doing sexy. Why joe here. She's doing real well mama flesh the most beautiful woman in town. Say a lotta my daughter from gainesville. Laurie how are you doing. Are you so much for calling. All i'm doing great. I'm so happy that we were able to pull this off. Because i just wasn't. I wasn't sure that we'd be able to do it. Amazing surprise and listeners are asking if your flight and the ocean prime dinner are all going on fletcher's mums nordstrom card. Know him a little too well. But delta wouldn't take the nordstrom cars. Don't you guys for that. Msl's part i'm gonna tell you guys. I wish that i could just seriously in the igloo with you guys. Because it's going to be a finite is always says well we love you guys so much and you enjoy your dad in in in seriously. Just give that man a huge hug and kiss for us. Okay thank you for calling bye bye still feel good thank you. I appreciate you so much. Hayes is flesh gonna take you to the dispensary this weekend. We've already done from the airport. I can tell. I love you. And i love your family so much. We hit the dispensary right when she got off. The plane passed isn't it isn't it great that it's that it's not that far from the airport i shoot rook like. He was like a kid in a candy. Carver is just lit up. Like i can't believe we went to the one out by in walled lake. Jerry miller milnes play the greenhouse great. That's awesome that's so cool. Well gosh i love your family man. I'm so happy we were able to get you on the phone. Thanks so much guys. Thanks so much for calling. Thanks for remembering really appreciate it. Let's see it's unbelievable. Sarah what's up it's mojo on the morning. Hi i feel bad following that also percents but maybe the guy was making all those noises. Cover up his parts during yoga really smart if that were tried to cover something like recovered coughing and carting attention to you no usually by cough hard enough anyway and you to your you. Actually to the cop thank you.

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Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

1:57:31 hr | 1 year ago

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"I with what is it. Six hundred ninety three goals with Mark Messier. These familiar names. Of course you know the names that you're you know that years you get to the top of the list and whether it's the the NBA scoring list or the NHL scoring The guys will more goals are going to be. The guys played longer and probably played more recently because can conditioning I always speak to my own. recency bias was sports because everything evolves everything gets better. You know maybe not year to year but decade today the the athletes of the twenty twenty s one one were sitting here hopefully not doing the exact same show in twenty twenty nine when when we look back at this decade that has just begun. We're going to look at it and we're GONNA say that the players of this decade were better than the one on supplied from two thousand ten to twenty one thousand nine hundred and that's just the way it goes and you're you're in better shape you're able to play more games in an eighty two game the season of vaccines done over over the fifteen years that he's you know that he's played in the NHL has been really impressive and it kind of goes back. Look how many teams does he played for in his career. Just just so Chris. Jerry played for a couple of teams story. But I you know I I I I got to know cours jury. When we're about same age I was born in seventy six seventy eight I got to know him through his nineteen eighteen eighty nine trumbull Connecticut Little League team. They beat Chinese Taipei and the Little League world series is politically correct. Because you've heard of Taiwan. John Never heard. Never all your closer made when you were just a little jenny and who does drop the Ajay word. I'm here but they call it Chinese Taipei. Because you don't want you don't want to get those people on that island Elon that is relatively independent in trouble for not recognizing them as a part of China. The Taipei part of China which is not worthy? What's what's the what's the latest virus that all the kids are talking about these days are you? Did you actually forget what it's called or do you just want to hear me. You say it I just want to hear you say it's really catchy. Like I could see how some would be forgettable. But it's corona virus. That's so much better than swine flu virus so much better than the bird. Flu Flu Virus Cara Security Simply Z. Anyone from they're all they're all kind of the same thing they're all just a lot of vomiting. It's just the These are the ones that Cata sneak past the goalie. I haven't looked at the symptoms of the corona virus. 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It didn't really have a great idea of how much helicopters cost Sir thousand dollars enough to cover I actually. I don't even know you'd be surprised you'd be surprised you get stuck in traffic traffic one too many times and you start looking at alternative methods of transportation but Thirty thousand dollars short of its five hundred thousand dollars those people rolling to give actual money out of nothing but spite I mean th that's all it comes down to so it Kinda was not a serious thing but it was a real thing thing and You know the subject and again I'll be the first to say it's all in poor taste and in poor taste that the media is asking another Los Angeles Basketball Player Quite a letter to happen to share helicopter pilot. The you know the the late I wish I had his name in front front of me. But the you know the the one who perished in the In the crash on Sunday was also quite Leonard saw helicopter pilots. So of course you'RE GONNA ask. Why Leonard Are you GONNA fly in helicopters captors again which is just such a dumb question that he wouldn't dignify with a response and and I kind of I can't understand that that's what I said last night? It's it's it's going to far these prodding questions digging for stuff but that's a society that we've become now. We have to know everything everything all the time as soon as possible all right. Here's just a few things we're GONNA get into Super Bowl prop bets here in just a second but just a few of the things that are are a little more. I don't WANNA say disturbing. It is disturbing that That everybody was guessing and trying to kill all Kobe's he's daughters and his wife and Rick Fox who was described? Who Friend's father described his girlfriend? He's like he's on the shows that you watch. She's a tall handsome of light. Skinned Black Man with the with nice hair and I realized that he's on these Soap operas Azzam. Rick Fox is but You know his family had to deal with the news of his death even though that they knew that he was still alive. Because you're going out there and you world just kinda throwing everything at the law seeing what sticks and and if you're right you know it's like Ding Ding Ding Ding. A you know if you're not it's just so so insensitive and disrespectful and You Know Eh reminds you of something humorous that Andy Richter once said on late night with Conan. O'Brien these do do that. futuristic sketch where was in the year two thousand which they started in the nineties but they continued on through the two thousand and two thousand six. And you're doing in the a year two thousand but they had outlandish predictions and one of them was in the year two thousand. It is revealed that Elvis not only faked his own death red foxes. To and here. We are faking. Rick Rick Fox's death and it and it was not a funny thing like it was on like it was on Conan. O'Brien O'Brien talking about Elvis. Being able to fake other people's death speaking of deaths we're taking. I'll were not killing Mr peanut after all now and this was of course in sensitivity to the tragedy evolving Kobe Bryant like wasn't it just insensitive to begin with because somebody was going to die this week. League soda is somebody that somebody cared about was going to die this week. And you know if you're gonNA talk about killing a fictitious product mascot God y'all why why don't you just roll with it. I only care about the commercials during the superbowl. I don't care who's playing. That is the only reason I'm watching. The Super Super Bowl is to stuff. My face was stuff I don't need to be eating and watch commercials we are. I mean I'm literally at every second trying to block spoilers from commercials because they're all available online. Now why do we even know what commercials are coming back in the day. You just have to wait for the commercials. You didn't get these previews of what was going on. You saw them. I mean you were excited. I know almost every single commercial. I'm going to see on Sunday. There's almost no point of even watching. Shame shame and distress in my the voice this is. This is literally the only good part of the super bowl and they are destroying. Its second by second by telling US everything beforehand. This is everybody's trying to be first being being I more so than being right and I'm not talking about accuracy but I'm just talking about why take the entertainment value off off the table. Why are you spending this much money to air these commercials during the Super Bowl and just gonNA slap it up on your website three days beforehand? Just wait I mean. Obviously it's going to cost money to make the commercial but don't pay the time but instead we're just put it on your website. Everyone's already seeing it anyways. Maybe maybe maybe the thought involved with it it is that it's set us and they WanNa take all the fun of our lives all that. Of course it Dave Chapelle said about pop copy and let's face it Kinko's yeah why don't you customers respect and then Chapelle says 'cause athem that's why that's why so. Yeah they don't care about you the sports don't care about the fans the networks don't care about viewers it's all about what's going to make the money and you know if you can over saturate your product meal maybe it's a few mentioned One of the prop bets pro. You understand these proposition bets there a lot more than who wins and who loses Ed's Al.. It's you know it's it's comparing. I mentioned the trump trump tweets on Monday versus niners points on Sunday. Who you got that one by the way? Hopefully the niners more word niner points now. Well I don't know what the Donald Averages in the earliest tweets. I don't know if I want. I don't know if I want to find out I've got a blocked. I've had a block since two thousand eleven. I am not a fan of president of the United States. Just just as a human being. Has You know before you get into policy or anything else I just. I think it's obnoxious. I always thought he was obnoxious. Going back to the apprentice. I think that You know I I think that he struggles with the truth and I think that is tweeting regardless of political affiliation. I think that it's beyond immature. And I think that I think that what happens in the game how we react to the commercials how we react to the to the super bowl whether or not the team. That wins is going to accept a White House visit. I I think all of those. I think that the game itself would very much affect How how much he tweets now? San Francisco's relatively liberal place. So I would think that he's not going to be a fan of the California team because he's not gonNA carry it to California in two thousand twenty anymore than carried it in twenty sixteen so You know these are the prop Bats San Francisco. I would say that they're going to score more points than the Donald will we. Will we have thirteen team to three game last year. I think if it's if it's a low scoring game that they're very much in danger of being bested by at. I don't even know what it is. I think it's Batmobile Donald J trump. I have we don't like to have. I don't even tweet so I don't. I don't twitter so I don't even know I think Scott's with yup up behind the glass there about you know it don't get a shunning the twitter and watching people fight on it and It's just another medium for people to be Name call each other all right. So let's start with commercials. They say how many commercials will air you. That's something that you can bet on. I don't have any idea. How many commercials aired during the course of normal game but I would say that you probably double it with the Super Bowl? Yeah I would imagine so. Oh but remember you got some of the little local ones sneaking their to and then TV teasers for TV shows so in terms of like brand new commercials or total count commercials. Total county seventy five eighty five hundred. Sixty eight wow America these down two hundred sixty eight and you said what seventy five. Yeah four minute. Commercial Breaks thirty second segments. Some of them were members. Some people go beg do minute minute and a half long commercials and that's movies movies. Yeah Yeah you know. They're small productions hype Williams car commercials But yeah you'RE GONNA end up getting like a minute and a half long in-car commercial at some point in the commercial breaks for longer but you have to take into account longer commercials. Don't add to the quantity. It's just you know the the probably a little bit more memorable double the more of a story to Tell I. I liked Chris. Pratt like you get excited for the globe. Commercially shows up and he's going to be an extra i. I thought that was a CO commercial They also have on here Well we see betty white a snickers commercial specific. Yeah and she does everything all the time. of an eye. They they that we've been there done that we're both on the same page. Just can be a no all right before the game. We have the national anthem. which because there's a certain player not playing for the forty niners anymore shouldn't be anywhere near controversial purcell It's going to be Demi lovato singing be national anthem Let's start off. This is We have we have three here First of all the color of her microphone occur phone. You're going to go with gray. I'M GONNA go with black alright. We'll she miss any words in the national anthem. And I'm with you to Iowa. Yeah I think that that's that's kind of a rank amateur thing and I don't. Let's yet has she in a clean phase right now Demi Levato I don't know anything about Demi Levato I I. I wouldn't be out of a lineup. We watched her shoes on Glee Glee when we watched glee fifteen years ago remember. It's very private. That is that is something that we did. Incompetence Dad only happened because a super bowl your document for the Super Bowl and it ended angrily came on and that's how we ended up and that's it was like one of the first two seasons when it was actually funny but no you've seen her before they. It was a very football themed episode episode. You know yeah you know. She was but she doesn't. She has some issues she struggles with and I think if she's in a clean phase. He's right now getting things together. Then Yeah No. We got a good performance. The ads would be a little bit higher. I mean you a little bit more of a payout. If you bet on the you know the her missing words yeah all right. How about the tie? The length of the from I note to home of the brave she I feel like she is somebody who does stretch out uh-huh for way longer than necessary. Okay over under two minutes over. I'M GONNA go under Oh I'm wrong just to just to propose that should get it done it about. I'm GonNa Sing Ninety eight seconds. Okay you're good with that but you're GonNa go one hundred twenty or higher gap one twenty one twenty six since two. Oh six in the In terms of seconds and minutes are halftime. Our we're running. Out of time here will Jaylo and Shakira Sing in Spanish during the halftime. Show in Miami like an entire song or just at any point in general point. Yes yes both of them. Will we see Ricky Martin on stage. We see things we're not supposed to No I don't think it's two thousand anymore. I don't think it's nine hundred ninety nine so we are not. I'm not going to see off somewhere. Raising eight hundred children or something. I had secretly been speaking off and following the life and times of Ricky. Martin I have no idea are some of these were just GonNa go lightning round Will a player be arrested. Miami after the game oh absolutely just No no fan on the field. Maybe someone after secure Jaylo but not during football play all right. We'll bring isn't he already like probably crafted a half and half Jersey each team or are we going to see Colin Kaepernick mentioned. Are we going to hear his talk about Tom. Brady I the anticipate at least forty times of and as you know to- Brady's played today for the first time in a Hundred Years Joe Book. Look ooh I'm so Joe Buck Aikman. The call for the game with a winning team be invited to the White House to get started to hate super bowl just during the course of this conversation all my Kansas City. Yes San Francisco. All right we got throat you a break I want your MVP prediction on the other side. 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Listen on Jimmy Ward is the MVP to seventy one hundred seventy five four Jimmy Garoppolo. What's on TV tomorrow night? We are going to watch nuggets at Jazz battle for for Western Conference both Thirty two and fifteen and that one at Seven thirty Pacific ed leave on TNT right. So she's Jen. I'm jeff this has been foul territory Tori odds sports overnight America. Stay tuned for more sports. Come your way next hour on the sports byline broadcast network Sir You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting casting. What twenty percent and our newsfeed? This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by the follow us on facebook. Twitter and INSTAGRAM's service newscaster generally the twenty twenty nine twenty twenty. I'm Mike Clifford President. Trump's defense team appeal to the Senate Tuesday to disregard and you'll account by John Bolton that bolsters the impeachment case against the president that from the New York Times they report by days and Republican leaders indicated. They had not corralled the votes they needed to prevent the former national security advisor or other witnesses from coming forward the Times notes on the final day of arguments on trump's behalf J. secolo sought to raise raise doubts about Bolton's claim cycle colder outsourced allegation that he could tenses inadmissible at the impeachment trial. California made me leader in many areas but overall wellbeing is not one of them. That's according to a new report Suzanne Paulo reports for pianists. The latest children's report card from the nonprofit children now gives California A grade of C minus overall the only eighth grade in the sixteenth semiannual analysis is for kids. Health coverage coverage as only three percent of California. Children remain uninsured children now president. Ted Limpert says that's because the state has moved aggressively to cover all kids kids including those who are undocumented and what happens when our state leaders really focused and set a goal and we get there. Almost twenty percent of our kids did uninsured just a couple of decades ago so this has been real progress on that front. How ever the state got a grade of D. Plus for affordable childcare because only only fourteen percent of low income families can get their children into state subsidized care the report also notes that childcare workers make very low wages which has led therese shortage that report also found California ranks among the lowest in the nation on per pupil spending for K.? Through twelve education as well as a preventative health screenings screenings for kids covered by Medico and Kentucky lawmakers or considering putting an excise tax on e cigarettes sold in the Commonwealth the tax would be equal to the current tax on traditional cigarettes which is one dollar and ten cents per pack Republican Representative. Jerry Miller of Louisville is the bills primary sponsor. He points out. His colleagues are struggling to come up with the state budget amid the worst projected revenue growth in decades largely due to tax cuts. He Says House Bill Thirty me too would bring in much-needed state revenue while improving Kentucky inns health but this tax has the added benefit in the primary benefit. Really of reducing. Take us by young people pregnant mothers to simply because they are more price sensitive yesterday. Evening Governor Andy Bashir announced his budget plan for the the next two years. 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No one has been growing plant for more than four years anywhere in the US so to say that we can just start out and be so strict on his regulation nations and have to comply with all of these. I just really warn. This is a risky business. And were pioneers. That are trying to make this work. The rules for help in Ohio are still being written and could be finalized by state. Legislators in the coming weeks growing and processing licenses could be available in March. Just ahead planting season me. Wally public comment period period on the USDA's interim rule. And today Mary Sherman reporting this story was produced with the original reporting from Maria mcguiness at Kent State a public comment period on the USDA's interim rule and today the twenty twenty cents is kicks off about two months a lot on the line for states like Missouri Children Under eighteen account for roughly twenty two percent of all missourians directive says operations John. Shackles says children are missed in that. Twenty twenty tally. The state will miss out on crucial federal dollars. We don't want people to forget their little ones counting. Our children means education childcare roads bridges infrastructure for for the next ten years. And we just don't want Missouri's children to be less doubted that national picture nationwide nearly five percent of kids age five were not counted in the lessons finally are Mike. Bowen reports some Minnesota Lakes invasive species are limiting the growth of a popular Fish University of Minnesota researchers say the culprits culprits are Zebra mussels and spiny water flea. The researchers found in lakes where they are present they can reduce the size of Walleye between twelve and fourteen percent. The species takeaways zoo plankton food source. For the fish Geoff Forrester. WHO has the Group of Minnesota lakes and rivers advocates says? The findings should spur stronger action by the state to prevent the spread of these species. What we've been doing this kind of emphasis on educational and personal responsibility? That's not getting it done. I think get slow the spread but it certainly hasn't stopped it. Forester says he'd like to see the state adopt more stringent boat inspection policies such as making it a requirement for people getting an operator's licence. DDR has enforced strong limits for anglers. Some of those restrictions have been slowly lifted as while I makes a comeback in the popular lick my Clifford for public do service. We are member. Endless Ter- supported and reminded public service DOT. Org their fears. Foul territory with Jeff. Jed On sports overnight America welcome in everyone follow territory with Jeff and John Rich Year from Phoenix Arizona. I'll talk about in the world of sports. This edition of the Foul Territory Program brought to you by the masters of the obvious Patrick Mahomes. He's GonNa to play in the Super Bowl on Sunday surprise surprise. He says he wants to be with. Kansas City. Is Your career. Why not start a little controversy by going on? We're all wall Patrick. Mahomes go in free agency Kobe. Bryant's life speaks for the first time publicly. said Sunday's tragedy add surprise surprise. She said that her husband and daughter died is is that a big shock site a little bit about all the you know the collateral damage but at the collateral news cycle that comes with the passing of a former superstar in the National Basketball Association. myles Garrett remember him yeah might be reinstated to the League because hitting a guy with a helmet is probably not worse than some of the things that these players get away with on the field of the browns speaking of the Browns They are subject to more criticism of the big bad math game game. You know we talk about how you know you were told that there would be no matthew on the program but occasionally numbers help you get to a solution. In one year's terrible is the browns. Maybe the numbers game will work for you. We've got a lot on Kris Bryant Who will not be free? Agent which changes his trade value for the Chicago cubs makes them look a little bit smart for twenty fifteen keeping him in the bus leagues for an extra couple of weeks so they get an extra year on the end of his rookie contract and the name Chris jury is that fun to say or not Jen. It is fun to save but it kind of evokes not good feelings. Are you feel injury tonight. Cloudy in Phoenix today today too. So it's now it's Juror Day. We'll talk about the general manager of the twenty twenty. US Hockey team and we got a lot more. We got a lot random tonight. We'll talk about pets for the big game on Sunday. She's Jen I'm Jeff. This is sports overnight. America's presentation of foul territory. You're listening to the sports byline broadcast hour. We'll be right back in. The big game is right around the corner and the basketball season is often rolling. 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If you don't mind jen in usually I don't mind talking about what I want to talk about here on the program. I you know I always appreciate your participation. You know we got your doing scores next segment here. You're not the biggest fan of the National Football League but the Super Bowl is all about a lot more than football. You've got the commercials you've got the a three game shows you got the party's you got the squares you got the crazy bats that you know like like like this one February third will trump tweet more times than the forty niners score points on February. Second that's just a little taste of the things that you know the weird things that you can bet on for the big game but You know an interesting tidbit to come from the media with Patrick. The home's third your quarterback your starting quarterback for the kids city chiefs tells media that you know he wants to be with the chiefs his entire career and I think that that's very beneficial It's a little easier to do with just about any team in the NFL than it is in baseball and really even basketball I. I'd say it's somewhat easy and hockey because you have the salary cap. So every team can essentially pay their state player. The same amount of money but I. It's it's a big. I think it's a big deal with your legacy. Of course. Kobe Bryant overshadows all of the All the other sports news this week and him Derek jeter you know they have the thing in common where they spend their entire career with one team. Do you think there when we look back on an athlete's career after uh either they pass away or they're just done playing that you'll play for one team really benefits you in the you know as far as perception reception goes it's weird because I don't think there's really any logic for it but I think most people would agree that staying with the same organization over the duration of your career is kind of more of achievement versus bouncing around from team to team regardless of what kind of titles are accomplishments. You get with whatever teams you're with. I think it does show a lot more of a person to stay with an organization gay and of course you know that if you talk about the Kobe as the best player of yesteryear a year that the Lebron isn't that conversation for The best player not not necessarily currently in the game but the the the biggest legacy and his entire career has been a term that has been A. What do they call the rotating door? You know that rotating door maybe this it was okay. It is a rotating door. I always think at the beginning of perfect strangers would opt alcohol. and Larry you know go Larry treats normally in value. Just keeps going round Gordon Round. That's your off Bronson Pinchot. Oh reference for the show. Well they have. I imagine a technical term for what those numbers are besides just rotating doors. We're GONNA go with rotating door taking a Lebron has switched organizations four times to play for three teams Patrick Patrick Mahomes is very very early in his career. Let's let's throw I see you're wearing the Iowa cubs Baseball shirt this evening. So let's talk a little let's let's relate to the Chicago cubs You have two players that are hall of Famers in Ryne Sandberg and Andre Dawson. Andre Dawson. County has a the split between the expos and I think that everybody wants to hold onto the expos since they are no more whereas has Ryan Sandberg played for the copses entire career. I know that your like Harry. What bounced around? But you think of in primarily as a COBB I don't think that it's necessarily surly just switching teams but when you switch teams in the primary career. I think that it's looked at differently. And then you don't have this one loyal fan base that you have off multiple fan bases or fan bases that look at a player changing teams as being disloyal. So they don't have any say over. Its It's while that that's one thing and I think that that's something to be considered but I think the the Derrick jeeter has the advantage thirteen gets drafted by the Pittsburgh pirates tyrants in place six years with the pirates and then plays another eight or nine with the you know. Let's let's say the Yankees I think he's looked at in a slightly really different white. I think those kind of tiers based on the various levels of how players stay. NFL Yeah they usually stick around and be a they typically typically hang out for a little bit and then just to get winding and stop performing until they just get traded because everyone's tired of putting up with them and baseball's kind of weird with all of their weird Contractual agreements in terms of when you could free agent or not or no trade clauses just all sorts of weird things. Baseball's always kind of confused me in terms arms of what can and cannot happen. And why don't you think like a guy like Anthony. Rizzo is going to be looked at differently. Especially you talk about the amalgamation mation their names and they and their marketing campaign. The Brazil combination of Kris Bryant and at the tail that Kris Bryant goes away and you know everything everything from the two thousand Sixteen Championship. You know Kinda. You're you're going to lean on a guy like Rizzo assuming that he stays with the organization his attorney career and he hasn't been in the cubs. Organization's been with Jed Hoyer and Theo Epstein Most of the way you know starting out with the padres ending the Red Sox Oregon or organization Padres Organization. He ends up with COSMAS. Play a major league game with anybody. The Chicago cubs. So you're GONNA look at career a career carbon and you're going to hold them in in a little higher regard especially as it relates to the two thousand sixteen championship team. I don't know if I've ever really felt that any of those guys were all going to stick around. And and I I was just trying to think. I don't know if I can remember the last cub that I was like. I really hope we just have this guy forever Cleveland. We don't have anybody forever even the guy to grow your leftover sheet a lot of our leftovers. I got Kerry wood for like a year rental for like four games or something before he sneezed and got hurt or slipped in a hotel or whatever other ridiculous Louis Gibberish. She had happened. And then you have a guy like Sammy Sosa who you just as soon forget that he ever played uniform. Rank sneezed so carry would slipped in the hot tub and Sosa. Was the the injury with the sneezing. LEAP YEAR COMING UP. And I I keep remembering February. Twenty ninth we lead to a wedding in in Chicago on February twenty-ninth or sitting in the grass with with our friend. We'll call him because that's actually his name with our friend Joff Add a you know. He's heckling Kerry wood warming up in the In the visitors bullpen at the stadium and TEPI. And he's just screams out. Carrie about the hot tubs. This offseason so just just weird stuff and you get mad at that too. Because you know you'd think that they should be dedicated to the team itself. I personally of the opinion that you know stuff happens that hot tub injury and the sneezing injury did not hurt us. I don't think nearly the as bad as a drone injury. Hurt Cleveland Hall that drone injury only forgot about that driver. I've been looking at right but attended deepen by bobbleheads on on Ebay. And there's actually a Trevor Bauer Reno Aces drone bobble Edwards like pitching aging with the drone in his hand. There's another one where he's got the the shake weight looking thing that long stack and he's just shaking it up and down and I don't really even think about how he long stick like the thing that makes the weird Australian thing that makes the weird sounds sounds like rain. What long stay looks like that? Show you during the break but it looks like a double double edged lightsaber. If you don't if you don't mind me nerdy out on the you know the whole star wars. Thank I think all right we got yeah throat you break. You're going to have scores on the other side. My Name's Jeff Rich. You're listening to foul territory on the sports byline gas network and we'll be right back uh-huh you're listening to foul all territory. 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The Brad Marchand head to Persia Rodber joie close with channel it's true splurge trick Brazil over Pantley one-timer showed sets in power. Gipson played it now. Raspy sitting down low for producing. This is his final. Jen Rich is always keeping score here on sports overnight America Evening Jen rich here with your final scores from Wednesday January. The twenty nine thirty breath in January almost February over on the ice in the NHL Category Edmonson ordered three and a shootout. The coyotes fell to the ducks four. Two in Anaheim a steven Stamkos hat-trick helped the lightning. beat the Kings Ford. A to shoe Vancouver Vancouver got a fourth straight win with a five two two defeat of San Jose. The predators rallied back to beat the capitals five to four and Toronto. Verano Top Dallas five to three over on the court in the NBA. The depot return for the Pacers after being out for about a year with an injury. He has won. Three pointer. Tonight happens to be the one of the last second to force overtime. They go on to beat the Bulls won fifteen to one zero six Brooklyn beat Detroit on twenty five to one fifteen gina. The Grizzlies got a fourth straight win. Within one twenty seven to one six defeat of the Knicks San Antonio stops three games scared what they won twenty seven to one twenty win over Utah. The thunder world. Pass the Kings one. Twenty to one hundred and Damian. Lillard had thirty six points in the trailblazers one. Twenty five to one twelve win over the rockets putting up just shy of two hundred points in the last four games. That's a wrap from me. See the jets over there. Shaking his head about unbelievable homerun from Damian Lillard. Welcome back into foul territory. We're talking about the sports that are actually going on. You know we've got a lot of build up to the Super Bowl. We got a lot of off off the field stuff. Obviously in Major League baseball during this Never ending off season. If you're a team had like Jenin I are at least that I don't know about seem I'm head but very big baseball fans counting down the days spring training. It's gotta be I mean we're GONNA have training in in the month February and we're GonNa have take the twenty third ish so yeah we're around twenty five days I think before game start. An pitchers catchers are usually ten days before that that syllabus. We'll start seeing them in about a week and a half. I was going to say a matter of weeks and not many weeks. Science L. pitchers and catchers report. And it's a little unfair. They shouldn't the players it. Shouldn't everybody get there at the same time I was gonna say I guess but aren't most of them just here all the time anyways when it's not the regular season art most of them already already here and there Paradise Valley or Scottsdale or Queen Creek Fountain Hills Mansions while usually find out from the police. Bader who's hanging out in Scottsdale got stale spring training start. WHO's actually around or not? You know the advice as always or Scottsdale professional athletes to stay the heck out of Scottsdale tails seriously go up to desert ridge. You can have some beverages while you stroll the mall up there like there's other places you can go to stay out of Scottsdale stay out of Scottsdale the most celebrities to I think it's just just stay out of Scottsdale. Nothing good happens in Scottsdale especially after ten PM and where do you work work during the day. What sitting in Scottsdale Ninety five all right? So I. I you know. Maybe you should take a little bit of your vice course. You don't end up on the police blotter because you are safely in studio here. And you know you have structure you have the structure of going to a job and then coming back to Phoenix and coming into the studio and and going on the air each and every day you follow her by the way on twitter at general rich but that would require you know if you want any response from. Everyone require times do stuff not your favorite social media. I don't get the whole acting at people. All in replying to things in the tweets and sometimes with the threads you have to go backwards to see what someone's even talking about and it's just like reading a giant long email thread it's like reading like a really crappy regular workday email thread and it's all the kids are doing but yeah no I don't. I don't like twitter okay. That's okay you're on instagram. A girl at a girl of many hats yes. How many do you have I think I'm hovering governor on one thirtieth or thirty thirty Hockey Baseball Minor League Baseball Independent League football football travel hats. You do it you have you. Have you have a have a football team that played in a league. That doesn't even exist so that you know these Pat's which I actually collected the Phoenix Open for free. So I'm actually really glad I invested no money in that. We got that coming up this weekend as well today everything started right. Yeah so Wednesday the la the program on Wednesday. You get the Yeah and then the practice on Tuesday pro-am on Wednesday. They have the whole in one contest. I I'll be honest you know unless I'm there I. It's things like spring training. I'm interested in spring training game when I'm there but not necessarily surly you know. Just just hear about it. I'm not gonNA read up on. You know who did what the whole one contest who did what in the pro-am which is an amateur with a a professional and they're not always you know really overwhelming you get a couple of big celebrities on the amateur side but for the most part it's it's it's a nobody with a golfer. Yeah I mean I was spring training at least glance at the scores. See kind of what's going on but yeah not too much. Death Phoenix Open. Yeah I don't unless I go and I don't even really I guess. Pay attention even when I go in person but I most certainly don't pay attention when I'm not there in prison all right you. It kind of the theme for the segment is Damian. Lillard scored thirty six russell. Westbrook scored thirty nine and in that rockets blazers game. I believe you said that. The Blazers prevailed Mack Games. So that's That's a good thing but this run that Lillard spin on it hasn't necessarily equal victories for the the blazers. I mean you know you go back You know in the loss against Dallas the other night he scores forty seven and they lose by eight The game that he scored sixty one. They won by five The game before that thirty four they lose thirteen another thirty four pointer against a void of loss to Dallas. Assad twice last week and a half year Both Times by eight points ten point winners on the night that he scored fifty against Portland on the twenty six. which was Sunday and out? You know not the high man on the scoresheet but his team won. And that's the most important thing but I think that it really speaks speaks to the prioritization of the individual over the team It doesn't matter if you hit four home runs and your team loses. He's got to win so fun. I mean it's still fun to watch and you'll want to collect individual. Athletes Play Golf. Play tennis with with me on that. Yeah so also Alexander Ovechkin every goal. He scores He's GonNa pass somebody on the all time list when he had like seven people ahead of them all right well yeah he. He passed he passed Eisenman for ninth and put them in a tie with with. What is it six hundred ninety three goals with Mark Messier? These are familiar names. But of course you know the names that you're that you here's you get to the top of the list and whether it's the NBA scoring list in the NHL scoring list. You know the guys who have more goals are going to be the guys that played longer and probably blade more recently because CAN CONDITIONING I. I always speak to my own. recency bias was sports because everything evolves everything gets better. You know maybe not year to year but decade that. Yeah the the athletes of the twenty twenty one one were sitting here hopefully not doing the exact same show in twenty twenty nine when we look look back at this decade that has just begun. You know we're going to look at it and say that the players of this decade were better than the ones that played played from two thousand ten to twenty nineteen. I think that that's just the way it goes. And you're you're in better shape. You're able to play more games in an eighty two game season. Send out what vaccines done over. Over the fifteen years that he's you know that he's played in the. NHL has been really impressive and kind of goes back you know. How many teams does he played for in his career? Just Salon just the one so Chris Jerry played for a couple of teams. The and but I you know I I you know I I got the numbers jury. When we're about the same age I was born in Seventy six hundred seventy eight I got to know him through his nineteen eighty nine trumbull Connecticut Little League team. They beat Chinese Taipei and the Little League world series is politically correct. Because you've heard of Taiwan never heard never all your clothes are made when you were just a little jenny. Okay and who does drop the J.. They were here here but you know they call it Chinese Taipei. Because you don't want you don't want to get those people on that island. It is relatively independent in trouble for not recognizing them is a part of China. The Taipei part of China which she's not worthy What's the what's the latest virus that all the kids are talking about these days? Are you actually. Forget what it's called or do you just want to hear me. Say I just want to hear you say really catchy like I could see how some would be forgivable but it's corona virus so much better than swine flu virus so much better than bird. Flu Bird Flu. West Nile Virus Ozone Disease Security. Civic Zebulon from they're all they're all kind of the same thing they're all just a lot of vomiting. It's just the These are the ones that can sneak past the goalie. I looked at the symptoms them. So the corona virus respiratory really bad fluish instant death. Well it's not no. I don't need to get freaked out about something else. Are we got to throw it through a break year. She's Geno Jeff. It's fall territory at sports overnight America and we'll be right back with backstrom in Carlson. Fires blocked three Alex bottle listening to sports overnight. America the big game is right around the corner and the basketball season is often rolling. And now you can get into the game with our exclusive sports betting partners bet online taught. Ag Sign up today to receive your fifty percent. Welcome bonus on your first deposit and make your bets on your favorite teams every spread every total every winter. 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The International Travel Department right now at low cost airlines eight hundred seven five four four five three one eight hundred seven five four four five three one. That's eight hundred seven five four forty five thirty two decision now clary in the world professional boxing spelled. WBZ Oh that's right. The World Boxing Organization is boxing. Only transparent sanctioning sanctioning body you'll follow the WB L. on facebook or check out their website DUB E. B. O.. Boxing Dot com the WTO. BOSTON DOT com the world boxing. He's eighty the you're hooking into foul territory. Now here's Jennifer all right. Welcome back. Everyone falls territory. We've got the big game coming up this weekend and I gotta ask her At least one of the clashes from tonight's talk up to the show Jiang genders really good job giving us about twenty seconds of teasing the show each and every every night and She liked to be when we talked a little bit about this Colin Kaepernick Gofundme page for a helicopter. That's that's really really important regardless of how you feel about kneeling and everything else or even could the life the life and death of Kobe Bryant as a really really in poor taste. Somebody started this thing to raise five hundred thousand dollars. Whoever started it didn't really have a great idea of how much helicopters cost is five? I put her down enough to cover. I Yeah I I don't even know shop. You know you'd be surprised you'd be surprised they get stuck in traffic. Got One too many times and you start looking at alternative methods of transportation but Thirty thousand dollars short of its five hundred thousand dollars. Those people are willing to give actual the money out of nothing but spite I mean that that's all it comes down to so it kind of was I mean not a serious thing but it was a real thing and You know the subject I and again I'll be the first to say it's all in poor taste and poor taste you know that. The media's he's asking another Los Angeles Basketball player quite letter to happen to share a helicopter pilot. The you know the late. I wish I had his name in front of me but the the the one who perished in the crash on Sunday was also quite Leonard's helicopter pilots so of course you're GONNA ask why Leonard Are you GonNa fly in helicopters again which is just such a dumb question that he wouldn't dignify with a response and I kind of I kind of understand that. That's what I had said last night i. It's it's going too far. These probing questions this digging for stuff but that's a society that we've become now. We have to know everything all the time as soon as possible. All right. Here's just a few things we're GONNA get into Super Bowl. Prop bets here in just a second but just a few of the things. They are a little more. I don't want to say too disturbing. It is disturbing that That everybody was guessing and trying to kill all Kobe's daughters waters and his wife and Rick Fox who was described who friend's father described his girlfriend. He's like he's on the shows that you are. She's a tall handsome of light. Skinned Black Man with no with nice hair and I realize that he's on these Soap Operas Rick Fox is but You know his family had to deal with the news of his death even though that they knew that he was still alive. Because you're going out there and you know just kind of throwing everything at the wall seeing what sticks and if you're right you know it's like Ding Ding Ding Ding. But you know if you're not it's just so oh insensitive and disrespectful at a you know eh reminds me of something humorous that Andy Richter said on late night with Conan. O'Brien these do that Futuristic sketch where it was in the year two thousand which they started in the nineties but they continued on through the two thousand and two thousand six. And you're doing in the year two thousand but they had. They had outlandish predictions and a one of them was in the year two thousand. It is revealed that Elvis not only faked his own death but red red foxes. To and here we are faking. Rick Rick Fox's death and it and it was not a funny thing like it was on like it was on Conan O'Brien talking talking about Elvis being able to fake other people's death speaking of deaths our taking were not killing Mr Peanut after all know and this was of course AH insensitivity to the tragedy evolving Kobe Bryant but wasn't it just insensitive to begin with because somebody was going to die this week. Sonja somebody that somebody cared about was going to die this week. And you know if you gotta talk about killing a fictitious product mask guide. Oh why oh why. Don't you just roll with it. I only care about the commercials during the superbowl. I don't care who's playing. That is the only reason I'm watching the super bowl all is to stuff. My face was stuff I don't need to be eating and watch commercials we are. I mean I'm literally at every second trying to block spoilers from commercials Marshal's because they're all available online. Now why do we even know what commercials are coming back in the day. You just have to wait for the commercials. You didn't. These previews of what was going on. You saw them in. You were excited. I know almost every single commercial. I'm going to see on Sunday. There's almost no point of even watching isn't it. That's a shame and distress in my voice. This this is this is literally the only good part of the Super Bowl and they are destroying second by second by telling US everything beforehand versus everybody. Are you trying to be first being I more so than being right and I'm not just talking about accuracy but I'm just talking about why the entertainment value off the off the table table. Why aren't you spending this much money to air these commercials during the Super Bowl and just gonNA slap it up on your website three days beforehand? Just wait I mean. Obviously it's is GONNA cost money to make the commercial but don't pay for the airtime for just put it on your website. Everyone's already seeing it anyways. Maybe maybe maybe the thought involved with it is is that it's set us and they WanNa take all the fun of our lives. All that of course is it. Dave Chapelle said about pop copy copy and let's face it goes. Yeah why asteroid our customers was respect back and then Chapelle says Apple. That's why that's why. So yeah they don't care about you. The sports don't care about the fads that works. Don't care about the viewers. It's all about what's going to make the money and you know if you can over saturate your product meal maybe it's a few mentions One of the prop bats these pro. You understand these proposition bats. They're a lot more than who wins and who loses it's a it's it's it's comparing. I mentioned the trump trump tweets on Monday versus niners points on Sunday. Who you got that one by the way? Hopefully the niners more word lender points now. I don't know what the Donald Averages in the way of tweets weeds. I don't know if I want. I don't know if I WANNA find out. I've got a blocked. I've had a block since two thousand eleven. I'm not I am not a fan of president of the United States. Just just as a human being it has be before you get into policy or anything else. I just think it's obnoxious I. I always thought he was obnoxious. Going back to the apprentice. I think that You know I I think that he struggles with the truth and I think that is tweeting a you know regardless of political affiliation. I think that it's a beyond immature. And I think that I think that what what happens in the game how we react. Commercials how we react to the to the Super Bowl Whether or not the the team that wins is going to accept a White House visit I I think all of those. I think that the game itself would very much affect How how much tweets? Now San Francisco is a relatively liberal place so I would think that he's not not going to be a fan of a California team because he's not going to carry it to California in two thousand twenty anymore than carried it in twenty sixteen so you know these are the Pats San Francisco. I would say that they're going to score more points than the Donald will we will. We have thirteen to three Game last year. I think if it's if it's a low scoring game that they're very much in danger of being bested by at. I don't even know what it is. I think it's at Real Donald J trump. I have we don't like through. I don't even tweet so I don't twitter so I don't even know I think Scott's with a up behind the glass there about shunning the twitter don't get it and I just watching people fight on it and It's just another medium for people to be pompous name. College other all right. So let's start with commercials They say how many commercials will air. That's something that you can bet on. I don't know I don't have any idea. How many commercials aired during the course of a normal game but I would say that you probably double it with the Super Bowl? Yeah I would imagine so but remember number you got some of the little local ones that sneak in there too and then. TV teasers for TV shows so in terms of brand new commercials or total count commercials total cow. Now I've got a seventy five so I'm one hundred sixty eight. Murray these down two hundred sixty eight. And you said what seventy five four minute commercial breaks thirty second segments. Someone were some people go big. They do minute minute. And a half long commercials and that's tired movies. Yeah Yeah you know. They're small productions or like hype Williams car commercials like the but. Yeah you'RE GONNA end up getting like a minute and a half long cart commercial at some point in the commercial breaks longer but you have to take into account longer commercials. Don't add to the quantity. It's just you know the the the probably a little bit more memorable. They they have more of a story to tell I I liked Chris. Pratt like you get excited for the MICHELOB. Commercial shows up and he's going to be an extra i. I thought that was a Coal commercial they also have on here Will we see Betty White and a snickers commercial specific. This does take time Just moving on. I think that we've been there done that. We're both on the same page as can be in no all right before the game. We have the national anthem. Which Joe because there's Certain players not playing for the forty niners anymore shouldn't be anywhere near controversial it's going to be Demi lovato singing the national anthem Let's start off. This is We have we have three here first of all the color of her microphone. And you'RE GONNA go with gray. I'M GONNA go with black all worried. We'll she miss any words in the national anthem. No and I'm with you to wait. Yeah I think that that's that's kind of a rank amateur thing and I don't see how she in a clean phase right now Demi Levato. I don't know anything about Debbie Levada. I I wouldn't be able to pick out of a lineup. We watched her shoes on glee when we watch glee fifteen years ago remember. It's very private. That is that is that is something that we did in confidence. Jed that only happened because a super bowl super bowl and and it ended in Glee came on. And that's how we ended up. That's it was like one of the first two seasons when it was actually funny but no. You've seen her before. It was a very football themed episode. Would you know yeah. You know who she was but she doesn't. She has some issues she struggles with and I think if she's a clean phase right now l.. Getting things together then. Yeah no we got a good performance. The ads would be a little bit higher. I mean a little bit more of a payout. If you bet on the her missing words all right how about the time. The length of the L. from I note to home of the brave she I feel like she is somebody who does stretch out the for like way longer than necessary. Okay over under two minutes over the under. Oh I'm wrong just to just to propose that Should get it done in about I'm GonNa See Ninety eight seconds. Okay you're good with that but you're going to go one hundred twenty or higher. Yeah I'm GonNa go on one twenty one twenty six since two. WHOA sex in the In terms of seconds and minutes are halftime. were running. Out of time here will Jaylo and Shakira Sing in Spanish during the halftime halftime. Show in Miami like an entire song or just at any point in general any point. Yes yes both of them. Will we see Ricky Martin onstage. Will we see things. We're not supposed to know. I think it's two thousand anymore. I don't think it's nine hundred ninety nine so we are not going join just raising eight hundred children or something. I secretly been sneaking off at following the life in times of Ricky. Martin I I have no idea are some of these were just GonNa go lightning round Will a player be arrested in Miami after the game. Oh absolutely coronal. No no fan. On the field maybe someone after Shakira Jaylo but not during football play. All right. We'll bring isn't he already like probably crafted a half and half Jersey of each team. Are We going to see Colin Kaepernick mentioned or. Are we going to hear his shots. How about Tom Brady? Just get it right. I anticipate estimate at least forty times of and as you know to- Brady's play today for four hundred years. Joe Book Blah Blah Blah in Troy Aikman call for the game. We'll the winning team be invited to the White House. I think started to hit super bowl just during the course of this conversation. All My of accomplishment Kansas City San Francisco. All right we gotta throw to break I want your MVP prediction on the other side. She's General Jeff. Get sports overnight. America's America's fault territory and. We'll be right back in your sports overnight America America we got one more to go out there and try to win it for you guys. And that's all we got. We Love You patriots. Take it has been said that everyone has a book in them. But do you have the time or the ability to write your book. Maybe you picked up if some skills or head a life experience that you want to pass on in the form of a book to help others. Maybe you want to leave an autobiography for your family. 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I understand that It's going to be Directional Illinois one way or the other for you what's your MVP pickier for you. A little bit biased. Because I want to and I you so no disrespect to Sui issue but Jimmy Husky. Thirty thousand are front for for plus thirty thousand one hundred dollars one hundred thirty thousand on Jimmy Ward is the MVP to seventy one hundred. Seventy five four Jimmy Garoppolo. What's on TV tomorrow night? We are going to watch nuggets at Jazz battle for western Western Conference both Thirty two and fifteen and that one at Seven thirty Pacific I believe on TNT. Alright so she's Jen. I'm jeff this has been foul territory. Awed sports overnight America now stay tuned for more sports coming your way next hour on the sports byline broadcast network DOC. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting live twenty four seven over. The Stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us us on facebook twitter and Instagram's service newscast generally the twenty nine twenty twenty twenty. I'm Mike Clifford. President Trump's defense team appealed to the Senate Tuesday to disregard and you account by John. Bolton that bolsters the impeachment case against the president that from the New York Times they report by day's end Republican leaders indicated. They had not corralled the votes they needed to prevent prevent the former national security advisor or other witnesses from coming forward the Times notes on the final day of arguments. Trump's behalf J. Secolo sought to raise doubts about now folks claim Cycle unsourced allegation that he contends his inadmissible at the impeachment trial. California made me a leader in many areas but overall child will being not one of them. That's according to a new report Suzanne Palmer reports for the latest children's report card from the non-profit children now gives California A grade of C minus overall the only eighth grade in the sixteenth. Semiannual analysis is for kids. Health coverage as as only three percent of California children remain uninsured children. Now president. Ted Limpert says that's because the state has moved aggressively to cover all kids including including those who are undocumented and example. What happens when our state leaders really focus and set a goal and we get there? Almost twenty percent of our kids were uninsured insured just a couple of decades ago so this has been real progress on that front however the State got a grade of D. Plus for affordable childcare because only fourteen percent of low income families can get their children interstate subsidized care the report also notes that childcare workers make very low wages which has led to a shortage shortage that report also found California ranks among the lowest in the nation on per pupil spending for K.. Through twelve education as well as a preventative health screenings for kids covered by Medicare and Kentucky lawmakers or considering putting excise tax on e cigarettes sold in the Commonwealth the tax would be equal to the current tax on traditional cigarettes which is one dollar and ten cents per pack Republican Representative. Jerry Miller of Louisville is the bills primary sponsor. He points Out His colleagues are struggling to come up with the state budget amid the worst projected revenue growth in decades largely due to tax cuts. He says House Bill. Thirty two would bring bring in much needed state revenue while improving Kentuckians health but this tax has the added benefit in the primary benefit really of reducing use news that young people pregnant mothers to simply because they are more price sensitive yesterday evening governor. Andy Bashir announced his budget plan for the next two years ears. According to the latest Kentucky Health Issues Poll three out of four Kentucky adults approve taxing e cigarettes and bathing products. But Bill is now in the Kentucky House Appropriations and Revenue Committee. If passed it would take effect as early as August. This is pianist. Ohio farmers will be growing hemp. The spring it is a risky crop some prior years or eager to make it work the. USDA established an interim rule asphalt to regulate hemp production and Ohio was one of the first state to have its hemp program approved by federal regulators. Hemp is very labor intensive crop typically grown on five acres or less Julie Durand with the Ohio. Oh hemp farmers cooperative explains farmers also face as somewhat murky regulatory environment and she doesn't think will make much profit at the start as a brand new new industry. No one has been growing plants for more than four years anywhere in the US so to say that we can just start out and be so strict on these regulations and have to comply with all of these as really warn. This is a risky business. Where the pioneers that are trying to make this work? The rules in Ohio are still being written and finalized by state. Legislators in the coming weeks growing and processing licenses could be available in March just ahead of planting season me. Wally public comment period on the USDA's SDA's interim rule and today. Mary Sherman reporting. This story was produced with original reporting from Maria mcguiness at Kent State a public comment period on the USDA's interim rule and today the twenty twenty cents is kicks off at about two months a lot on the line for states like Missouri Children under eighteen eighteen account for roughly twenty two percent of all missourians directive says operations John Cycle says if children are missed in twenty twenty tally. The state will miss out on crucial crucial federal dollars. We don't want people forget. Their littlest one's counting. Our children means education and child care roads bridges infrastructure for the next ten in years. And we just don't want Missouri children to be less doubted that national picture. They should widely five percent of kids under age. Five were not counted in the Leci- finally are Mike. Bowen reports Minnesota Lakes invasive species are limiting the growth of a popular Fish University of Minnesota researchers say the culprits are Zebra Mussels and spiny wonderfully the researchers found in legs where their present they can reduce the size of Walleye between twelve and fourteen percent the species he's takeaway zoo plankton a food. Source for the fish Geoff Forrester. Who has the group Minnesota lakes and rivers advocates says? The findings should spur stronger action by the state to prevent prevent the spread of these species. What we've been doing this kind of emphasis on educational and personal responsibility? That's not getting done. I think it's slow with the spread but it certainly hasn't stopped it for Sir. Says he'd like to see the state. Adopt more stringent boat inspection policies. Such as making it a requirement for people getting an operator's license. DNR has four strong limits for anglers. Some of those restrictions have been slowly lifted as while makes a comeback in the popular lake. I'm I'm Mike Clifford for public news service. We are member endless ter- supported and Ron Line at public service DOT. Org All right everybody. Welcome across the country with does. She's I'm jeff rich topic for discussion on this particular. Our of these sports overnight America Block is the Game Amo Baseball. You know our live hours called foul territory. So let's pay a little bit of homage to that and we'll baseball shows from time to time. John and I will discuss personal experiences as well as taking in the In the big games you know the all star game the regular either season games. We spent a lot of time at the CACTUS League Games in the month of March and follow the Games Minor League Baseball or all over college baseball ball. You name it if we have access to it or watching it and I with that being said You know we're going to kind of have a different type of show We're a play a little game. Play a little game. 'cause Games are fun you know. We play those during the live. Our we play those during the these podcasts style. Type of hours where We just focus on one subject. Don't want the days events dictate. Were going to speak on and with that being said January toxin baseball with me. I am very ready to talk some baseball. Because it's not around the time that we usually talk about baseball. All baseball is going to be a focal point for us here on the program and I wanNA talk about it. I'm GonNa Kinda interview you if you will. And I'll share personal experiences as as I asked the questions and We'll get into just just you know I want what baseball was to a child with. Baseball is to now and I play a little trivia game which is always fun. You look like games right right. I love the game. We talk about the Games. We play games to talk about the Games. I I think it's a great concept that we're into and I'll talk about some nontraditional versions. You Mentioned College Baseball We've gone to folly games There's some other factions of baseball that go beyond Major League baseball which are really interesting. If you're really really into the game she's generous. I'm Jeff Rich. This is the out of bounds. Our of sports overnight America on the sports file I broadcast network. And we'll I'll be right back. Dr In in the big game is right around the corner and the basketball season is often rolling and now you can get into the game with our exclusive sports vending partners pet online dot e sign up today to receive your fifty percent. Welcome bonus for your first deposit and make your bets on your favorite teams every spread every every total every winter. 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All right everybody welcome back. We are out of bounds. Chuck rich here with you from Phoenix Arizona. I'm joined by my wife. Jan Rich and we are big baseball fans and we promise that we're going to discussed the game of baseball this hour. That's exactly what we're going to do you don't I will talk about it General Jeff ill no you know our little world of baseball admiral. We'll share that out there with them and you know I'm just GonNa Start Right at the beginning. Did you play baseball growing up John now not any kind of city leagues or school leagues or anything. We did I don't think kids do this anymore. Like the pickup games of baseball down at the local in a movie about that had a big dog it and James Earl Jones and some lifeguard doing CPR. That wasn't actually drowning. Yeah we actually. I don't think We had a beach at the lake. But I don't think there was a lifeguard and we didn't have giant be stock. We had an angry farmer with a shotgun. So did you play on actual grass or originally on black regular just. It was the city park. I'm in so it was also the skin feels you played regulations. Their regular baseball. The city is that's up cap very well. I don't think there was fences or probably lines or maybe not even basis most of the time. I'll tell you what summer days for me. Were playing baseball in the cul de sac. Pretty much soon as everybody was up which was realistically probably about nine. AM So we're probably out there during what would be the school day During the regular part of the year we had this little cul de sac that with the L. is probably vases about sixty feet apart. We played with the time we played tennis balls in the street. And you know so. We didn't break windows or anything. We very rarely hit the house. And in at my Mother's childhood at my child at home which is where my mother's still resides back in northeast. Ohio I played little league at every level. You know they actually called our youngest level of little league they call it the Little Indians and I figure that it was probably less racist racist more paying homage to the Big League club that we had there. Not Too far away from the suburban Cleveland where I grew up in an actual Cleveland and You know the coaches pitch is to us for one year and the kids pitched and eventually got to stealing bases and You know by the time you were what thirteen or fourteen year already playing at the same dimensions as Major League Baseball and then before you know before I knew it was playing high school baseball. I really enjoyed it as as it became more competitive. I think it came a little bit less fun because they became less game and and more of a status. When you when you're an adolescent boy? I know that you are girl. Of course if you did know adolescent boys and you knew adolescent boys that played baseball your adolescence. Now I never stopped two points. Cookies boy's head cuties but it all seriousness. How much of your time? How much of your teenage years did you spend baseball fields? It was a lot in highschool dated a couple of guys I played for High School for the city. I think actually on the Kaaba League too so I think there was one summer when there was like three three different leagues. So there's a lot of time it's a it's a job following. You're following days in baseball for a while. Because they just got kind of tired of going to baseball all the time it was seven years ago we were buying season tickets for the Arizona diamondbacks and we looked at the abbreviated. Package is the thinking being eighty. One Games in Phoenix. Summer is just a whole heck of a lot of games and even our sales rep said you know I have to be here and not only is the job but it feels like a job. Even though he's at the Ballpark I mean it is. It's effort you gotta you know either. Take the Light Rail and then you're walking to and from the Stadium Liam in an out Sitting and seats. That aren't exactly comfortable to sit in eighty-one times a year for who knows how long diamondbacks a tendency to run long long in their baseball games. So they're never they're never short abbreviated games. And then you know you've got to get out of there and get home and no it. Does it gets kind of taxing Singh after a bit and I can understand that in even people that sell the tickets can certainly understand if you only want to go to the forty or twenty the eight or ten games because you're inside the whole time like one of the best things about baseball is being outside. I would take it a step further for their own elaborate on that a little bit. I did It's a lot more enjoyable when the atmosphere is good when the When every filled around you there's a there's a stark contrast ask between going to a diamondbacks game on Thursday night in late July when they're out of it and going to a playoff game or a world series game which they haven't had here in Phoenix since two thousand one so I I like the atmosphere I like it being loud like people being into it and that's the tough? That's a tough this thing in Phoenix. And I'm sure that there's other sunbelt cities that experience this Jen. Is that you you know. You don't necessarily root for the home team just because you're at the game. We don't see that not as much away from Phoenix but we certainly see it at chase. Field the games now when you watch them when you see the cubs on TV or even when you're listening to them in the radio and on the radio and TV is is inaccessible and you know it doesn't take you back home a little bit when you get to watch. Listen to your favorite team. I'm from ECHO does and you've experienced the games at Wrigley not Under any of the other stadiums that we have into your just being too nice. You'd be a way to dice as they tell us. Tell everybody that gives regular one thing and everywhere else. It socks guide of wise like it's just a different atmosphere there and then in May we sat right right behind home plate which broke me. I think forever in terms of baseball. Nothing's going to be as good as is that afternoon was because those tickets are cheap because the cubs her her kind of that Yuppie team that people are willing to pay two hundred dollars to skip work on a Thursday afternoon and go to the game. I absolutely throwdown for those seats that we had again. I would absolutely those again now. It's funny because it gives them. I don't WanNa say I give kids looks but I feel that there's Some failure on the part of the parents see kids in Phoenix wearing Yankee stuff in wearing steelers stuff and keep a baseball wearing wearing that of the red sox the Tigers. And they're you know they're not from there and their families not from there and it's just that they liked the logo and really unforgiving and then I do a little bit of a flashback in my own head here. You've seen pictures you've seen the Notre Dame so I cheered. You see me in Chicago Bulls Fan. I was a kid that followed everything anything and I wore the stuff that beyond the home team and you know I was reading a common fraud facebook Rome one of my childhood friends about about how. You're the starter Jack Generation and you know that there were Michigan jackets or Notre Dame Jackets Texas Oklahoma jackets. But how guys jackets until they won the national championship in two thousand. When I was already long gone from there looks like candy? Canes Color Block it would have been like a giant candy cane. I'll wear the the scarlet and gray of Ohio state but it was. It was everything it was. It was all kinds of San Jose. Sharks jackets it and the sharks. I remember when I'm not that far behind you. The sharks in the Marlins came out about the same time. And they've they've brought this deal that we only saw with the Miami Dolphins to the forefront brought and I'm going to tell you I I had I had a Florida Marlins Duffel bag book bag when I was in middle school so around ninety three ninety. Four oh I jumped on the marlins take on the Marlins when they first came out just because I liked the colors and we actually went to as a family a cubs marlins game and naturally wore Marlin stuff and a nice little pop. Pop Up came out too. Well I guess it would have been home. Run came out to the bleachers. We were sitting and uncle. Scott wouldn't let me have it because I was wearing Marlin stuff. Hey Hey I'll I'll see you love baseball but to cycle back to your kids wearing different team jerseys from the city that they live in what I have discovered over it from having friends who have children is that sometime if they played little league a lot of the little leagues are they use a lot of the the big league kind of I. Maybe there the Yankees the Arcadia Yankees or some crap. I don't know a true story. My friend Georgia. You know up up played for the cubs in the mortgage a little league and You know we've even talked about it. Sets the Indians comes world series. You know we. We both liked the cubs our entire life. So you know we had to put it on the back burner of course because of Interesting interesting fled trump our fandom for the cops but I it's out there it's planned for that that that team the little league that has a major league counterpart and it. It's Kinda cool. I like cities that didn't do that. 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Our Gen Rich Jeffries here with us in Phoenix Arizona to talk a little bit about our backgrounds or a little league and beal our emphasis maybe justification for sometimes maybe not Rooting for the team. That the a status quo dictates that you do. I was wanted. The Indians were a little bit a little bit cheesy with the big smiling. Chief Wahoo You know and it's always been their logo even though it wasn't on on their hands for a long time it was always kind of their logo. And now that it's gone. I really don't Miss It. I don't know if that's really here nor there. Any any real feelings on the the chief Wahoo thing wasn't the best of logos and I think there's a lot of other things to get upset about than you know. Now that the offensive nature of it does Sport Team Logos I. I think there's other fights to fight but it wasn't. It was not a great logo. Let's just put but at this way a you know it's gone the the fighting the infighting should go away the people that only show up on opening day and for the playoffs to talk about out. How wrong it is all of that? You Go away and you know. JUST STAY IN CLEVELAND. We've been to diamondbacks games here in Phoenix Axworthy Indians Ryan town and they were out protesting even here. It is what it is. I don't know they they won. I'm not necessarily surly saying that. It's an awesome thing but the people that were unhappy with it. They got their way. CLEVELAND GOT THEIR ALL STAR Game. which was you know? Supposedly the ransom held over there. Glad to get rid of it. But that's not really where I'm going here. It's just you know baseball discussions baseball discussions and all is fair in love and baseball as I've said in the past What am I talk about? Is You know we've been to seventeen of the thirty current parks for twenty twenty. We lose the globe. Life Park market or the Ballpark at Arlington. Because that is no longer with the Texas Rangers Current Ballpark. So we've seen plenty of big league. Stadiums were a little a a little later in the portfolio on Minor League Baseball Games. So we've we've seen Aa in Texas and we've seen AAA league games in New Mexico in Washington and in the state of Nevada. We've been we've been out of the Minor League ballpark in Las Vegas. The old one but not new on so and of course we've been to fall league We've been to Spring Training Games Really not a lot of the other alternative is we've seen all of the division programs in Phoenix. That'd be Grand Canyon University of Arizona and of course Arizona State and there's states played in a couple of venues since you and I've been privy to their program. They used to play Packers Stadium Right on-campus they date. It seemed like they renovated it around twenty twelve or thirteen year old. They built the They built like the indoor area that you know we weren't privileged enough to answer are at the on Campus Stadium and then poof. They were gone and they moved into the Phoenix Municipal Stadium which used to be the spring training home of the Oakland as they may. I do not know when they renovated that stadium that the as would be moving because I think at that point it wasn't even sure that the cubs were gonNA stay in Mesa that's on the cubs are making a stink about possibly possibly not being a mason anymore right and there was a controversy that Arizona State was gonNA try to share facilities with the cobs but the cubs weren't gonNA give them you know autonomy on it. They weren't going to be trusted with the shared ballpark. It was gonna be the cubs ballpark with GONNA ask. You was basically going to be their tenant. I think that that's why it never came to be but things opened up when the cubs built their Taj Mahal. Right there on the Tempe Mesa border in Arizona here and and then that opened up their old ballpark which it was. It was fine. It was a dump. No it was. It was as you know. Obviously there are a big name club. I can see at that point. They hadn't been winning like anything. We'll Wrigley was a dump to Ripley's just recently been renovated but it wasn't dad so I I was disappointed with the stink that they were making about it to pull out that We're GONNA leave if we don't get a new stadium. Oh that's right. They were threatening to Sarasota. Oh Oh gosh. They were being absolutely ridiculous. Spring training the politics is spring training. I can't believe that the it was like stupid stuff. It was like the weight room and like food. I think you have bazillions of dollars. Go to the village like every rich person in Arizona. Eat At chop shop and get your fifteen dollars salads like like everybody else hired. You're name dropping. The local plants air missiles all over Phoenix. So we enjoy spring training. Though we've been to we've been every park in the valley Tucson the kind of kind of stopped having spring training before we were able to get down there and check out the Tucson Electric Park of course the Colorado rockies up until they moved to salt revealed. You know I want to say around twenty twelve or twenty thirteen You were they would share with the diamondbacks who abandoned their Tucson. Electric Park facility to come to the to the to the valley in the white socks were down in Tucson too. I think that they shared the the nicer new park with the diamondbacks dollar before they moved to Glendale so we didn't see that boat. We've seen the rangers and the royals in surprise. Maybe not on the same day.

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Vincent Schiraldi on Youth Justice

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31:07 min | 1 year ago

Vincent Schiraldi on Youth Justice

"It's a disaster right now and everybody's really concerned about putting a kid into that disaster. We should always been concerned about putting that kid into that disaster not just now because they might get covert nineteen but owens because they might get beaten up. They might get raped. Their chances of success apartment lease go down and because it's dramatic racially and ethnically disparate though should have been are concerned every single day and now we add to that pile depend so all fired good idea before and we don't want to get back to that listening to works of. Justice against on any given day in the US nearly sixty thousand youth under the age of eighteen are incarcerated in both jails in prisons is covert nineteen continues to spread through the criminal. Justice system advocates are calling for the release of more minors in detention to learn more about the particular challenges. Covert nineteen poses for incarcerated youth. My fellow intern at Penn. America's prison injustice rating program. Liz Fury called up one of the strongest leading advocate in juvenile justice field. Vincent Trolley Benson is currently a senior research scientist at Columbia's School of social work in Director of Columbia Justice Lab. History in the field is expansive and impressive. Vincent founded the policy think-tank the Justice Policy Institute and even worked in government is director of juvenile corrections in Washington. Dc then as commissioner of the New York City Department probation where he pioneered effort to community based alternatives to incarceration in New York City in Washington DC. Most recently Schiraldi served as senior adviser to the New York. City mayor's Office of Criminal Justice. All of this history has gained Vincent a national reputation as a fearless reformer. Listen the opportunity to ask him about. America's youth incarceration problem in how this pandemic is further exposing it. They also talked about ways to support incarcerated youth by getting involved in advocacy efforts. My name is Keith Camel. I've been joining us for the last few weeks but I'm happy to turn the conversation over. Liz bringing her brilliant thoughtful in hard work behind the scenes. This past month the forefront. We're glad you're joining us again. For Penn America's New Rock Response Series Temperature Check Covey nineteen behind bars. Thanks so much for joining us. I'm joined by Vincent. I'm so glad we could sit down and talk about justice involve youth Start off with some questions and I could imagine as we talk. Maybe we'll get into some side tangents about things we're really passionate about. I know I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUTH. Just having worked in it just for like a year and it really made me realize how important working with youth is for an overall a holistic view including like in schools and like. I'm sure you know about the school to Prison Pipeline. And all that stuff like that so I'm really interested in youth particularly youth justice. I know you are as well so I think like a good starting question would be I know that you were involved in The do see and working as a director. So then you transitioned into academia Do you WanNa talk a little bit about like how you started off with your career where you are now like what led you to wear. Yeah and I want to. I want to start by dedicating this to a friend and colleague who passed away this week. His name was pulled a mural in in the sixties and Seventies. Paul worked with a mentor of mine. Jerry Miller and they closed every juvenile facility in a state of Massachusetts during a about a two year period Sent allocates home except sixty kids. Total into thirty bed facilities were in small facilities. So it's really the first kind of major institutional has ation of juvenile's in American. Paul was a mentor of Mine and stuck with me all these years and helped me out when I ran youth corrections myself So I just want to dedicate this to him. I actually started working in a group home when I was an undergraduate at Binghamton statement of versity in upstate New York and then her Jerry Miller who just mentioned speak about closing prisons down in Massachusetts and I went to work for Jerry. I sort of chased him out of the classroom. I was enthralled by it. This was nineteen eighty-one probably and So I I You know so. That's early days. Really of mass incarceration and think probably mid to late seventies is when most people say mass incarceration started and grew every year between men in two thousand nine so Heard Jerry talk about how he was able to let all the kids out of these institutions provide them with kind of services and supports and I said okay. This is what I WANNA do until I worked for nonprofits from them from one thousand nine hundred eighty one all the way till two thousand five and I never really thought I was going to go into government But then the juvenile justice agency in Washington. Dc was under a court order was litigation over terrible horrible conditions staff beating the kids up sexually assaulting the kids rats and cockroaches crawling on the kids at night. Awful awful awful hair-raising stuff and surprisingly because I was a big critic of it is my nonprofit organization Justice Policy Institute. The mayor offered me job to run the place that so's one of those. Put your money where your mouth is moments and I decided to do it on. So you briefly. Talked About Your own nonprofit. Do you WanNa talk a little bit about that and why you started and what it does today actually started to nonprofits. One is called the center on juvenile and criminal justice. That's in San Francisco and that provided a combination of direct services in advocacy in research. So We'd put out these kind of high impact studies showing racial discrimination in the system war. How much more money? We're spending on prisons than higher education. You know things like that and we also providing direct services some of which were funded by the government so that became a problem because the government was not very happy about criticizing somebody who was funding and so I split off and created the Justice Policy Institute in Washington. Dc and back then it was not easy to get foundation money to do advocacy around criminal. Justice work nobody is wasn't this groundswell of both had the kids at formerly incarcerated people in philanthropy. There's the pickens. Were very slim if you wanted to be an advocate only and so you know that's fine. That's what we sign up for this in his field But that's what the Justice Policy Institute was and it still local still around but the Justice Policy Institute never provide any services because it wanted to be able to say whatever it wanted to be able to say without worrying. This governor that corrections administrator was going to enact reprisals You also touched on a reason why you got into the dot is because you were so knowledgeable about the harsh living conditions of prisons and jails. And I think that especially with everything going on right now. With covert in the spreading that has led to a lot of reforms in terms of like releases of people How do you think that Cova in particular is affecting youth detention because detention is obviously a little bit different than adult presence? Do you think that there's like a unique factor in youth detention how it's being affected during covert you know? I think it's I think it's a similar nightmare in a lot of ways to the adult system with with a couple of variations. But I think they're they're they share a lot more than they don't share on you know when when the pandemic started to become obvious I got together with a bunch of current and former youth correctional administrators and we issued a statement saying reduced the number of people. You're locking up. Close the front door And you know. Create a covert plan. There were many more elements to it there but that was basically it also provide support to families when their kids come home and we issued that and the reason we should is because every one of us the first thing you do you have a rumblings places you start imagining what's GonNa Happen. And here's the way it's GonNa play out is playing out in several places. The virus enters your system. Somehow someway somehow some way through staff through kid comes in the family member through maiden staff you know however and everybody starts to freak out staff start. Get SICK or call in sick. Because they're afraid of getting sick or because family members is sick. And now you've got an order thin staffing compliment. That gets thinner programs get closed down. Because you don't want people coming into might be sick. School gets closed. Visitation gets closed. Volunteers get closed so now. The kids are already in a stressful situation. Because they're Ori- in a juvenile correctional system in America so let's just every day starts stressful and now you up to stress many fault and you have to make this decision. Do I lock the kids down? Or do I let him out into a congregate setting where there is no frigging way. They're gonNA stay six feet away from each other and there's no way might staff who already didn't keep this place. Hygienic before this are GONNA clean it enough. And so that's the situation that person after person after person finds themselves in so that's kind of issued that statement somewhat early on was what we were trying to say. Is You know the doctor did the head physician at rikers island. Dr McDonald said a storm is coming. We need to get ready for right. That was his that was his sort of clarion call. Today it was a beautiful way of putting it and so I got to thinking about storms when it coming. What do you tell your citizenry? Get out there. Now get the plywood up in the hammer nails in board up the windows. You don't say wait till the wind is blowing one hundred miles an hour and then get the boards at hammer nails out. And that's what we're trying to say to. Juvenile correctional administrators politicians the governors mayors county council. Prepare for this now. Bar a bunch of people from coming into the city and released them anybody on a misdemeanor. Anybody on a probation violation anybody's got thirty. Sixty ninety days left to serve on her sentence. Get them the hell out of there. Nothing's going to happen next. Ninety days in your juvenile correctional facility. That is going to change the life of this young person except navy getting coded so get them out of your facility right now in big numbers. Don't do a bunch of individualized Blah Blah Blah. Which is what everybody always wants to do. And then with whoever's left do the individualized plan because yes we get. Some of the kids will be in your view too dangerous to release but not the misdemeanor. It's not the probation. Violators not the kids to fail the program. Not The kids that are coming out in ninety days anyway all of them pretty much or not too dangerous for you to be worrying about so get them out of your facility and then start to take a very careful look at anybody who's left especially anybody with asthma. Honsik kids in my facility had asthma and we know that having asthma mixed the symptoms of covert worse or any of the medically vulnerable kids very carefully. Start looking at them. Very carefully stuck to release plans with prosecutors judges people But step one is get big numbers out so in terms of the kids. That are released Have you or people you know organizations that you know of? Have there been any like solid aftercare programs because I know in talking to Some people I was connected with at my previous job which is the Youth Justice Center in Staten Island That the kids being released from Like horizons or other detention centers. That normally in after care plan takes quite a bit a while to plan like six months prior to release you. Start thinking about after care. Plans like what's going to go on Do you know anything about either. Your nonprofit or other people that are Helping with this kind of relief. I've heard that there are a bunch of groups actually have gotten together on this and that a lot of youth correctional administrators are starting to sorta amp up their release planning We should all been doing this. The first day to kit arrived the first aid kit rhyme. You should start thinking okay. Six months from now nine months from now we have this Gig go. What's that GONNA look like? What kind of after care plan will ever be so shame on you? If you already haven't been doing that but one of the things I've been thinking is you know we're all wishing life was back to normal. I wish I was sitting in a room with you. Do in this interview. I wish I could go to a bar tonight. I wish I could go to a game right and which kids could go back to school but there are some places where we don't want to go back to normal and mass incarceration is one of them. We don't want to fill these facilities backup. We don't WanNa do Lousy aftercare plans for these kids and so we should really be looking at this moment. Not just as an opportunity to keep young people safe but as an opportunity to improve stuff. We should've been improving anyway. It's a disaster right now and everybody's really concerned about putting a kid into that disaster. We should have always been concerned about putting that kid into that disaster. Not just now because they might get covered nineteen but always because they might get beaten up they might get raped their chances of success upon release go down and because it's dramatically racially ethnically disparate does should have been our concerns every single day. And now we add to that pile the pandemic so this was all fired. Good idea before and we don't want to get back to normal right and I think what you're saying is like a percent accurate really hitting the money on that one where like I hate that. It took a pandemic for people to Kinda be at this level of like a quick reaction for reform. Like mass incarceration like you said was starting to be prominent in the sixties and Seventies. Shame that it took so long to get to this point but at the same time it's kind of like this was kind of like a kick out the door to you know. Start this type of stuff. How do you think that this pandemic is affecting the court systems in terms of youth and their timelines? Like obviously kids. That are released. We hope that there's no re-offending in that their time in the court system is done. What about kids? That are still in youth detention or that. Were you know on probation or whatever. How do you think it's affecting their court time line yet? It's different different places so some courts have shut down so if you were detained you might be just stuck sitting there. Other courts have sort of done rocket dockets where they all get on the computer. They they resolve a bunch of cases consensually so some kids might be moving more quickly but again it's something that needs to be looked at not just now but going into the future if we could move this kid's case quickly to get them out of detention when there was an emergency. Why can't we do it all the time? 'cause if it's my kid it's always an emergency right of course and how do you think that would kind of be implemented like? I know it's great to say all these things that we wish would be done. But how do you think from your government experience? This actually could be done. That kids could be released more often that they could you know. Have the rocket docket. You know all these things that seem so great now and they weren't in place before. How do you think on a like administrative level? This can be pushed to be you know something. That's not just for now but in the future and stays sure so a lot of what? I'm hearing people doing right now. Is Looking to the list of everybody whose incarcerated by the way on the adult and juvenile side both in Taking a look at everybody's circumstances what crime in four with prior record like are they likely to get sick and then Trying to make decisions about who can get out right and so the way. That's typically playing itself out. Is the defense attorneys. Take a look at it. They make motions bring those motions to a special court. A special court is set up to rapidly here that the district attorney's are open to hearing it and are agreeing to more of those than they did in the past. None of that has to go away. You can literally keep that very same process going after depend over in the courts reopen just to have people constantly re looking at the kids in detention and saying who of these kids can go home on. The good news is even that absorbs resources that means a judge of defendant a prosecutor to sit and do that at the same time it's costing about a quarter million dollars a year in most places to put a kid in juvenile detention so if you can close the syllabus or even a wing of a facility you can more than pay for that court and so that's the way we gotta start thinking as we've gotten these numbers down. Casey Foundation and Casey Foundation released a report today showing twenty six percent decline a number kids in detention in sites that responded to a survey they issued right. And that's an a month a one month so if we could get down like that and keep it down like that that has to result in cost savings that can be used not only to finance that process but also to finance programs for these young people at help them when they get out right and I think that's a perfect segue Into my next question so I had worked at a Youth Court where we used restorative justice practices and community based programs to keep kids out of detention centers in out of the court system. And it's it has like as you probably know like away better rate through rehabilitation and things like that than just a being incarcerated. So how do you think that with Cova D- This is going to affect legislation in terms of restorative justice community based programs and things of that nature. Do you think they'll be more prominent? Do you think that Judges will be more open to you. Know like an after school program with a mentor as opposed to being in a group home for a week. You know what I mean. I think this is a really good time for advocates to start asking that exact question so when we emerge from this what are the public policies or two practices we wanNA start urging the legislature to pass and administrators to enact. By the way it's tons of this can be done today. Administratively I when I ran a Washington DC system. I had released power over the kids. I was probation. Commissioner New York and I had the power when kids came to detention to send them home right. Those are powers and nobody needed to pass a bill to allow me to do that stuff so I sent a ton of kids home. So advocate should be looking to legislation. They should also be looking. What can our administrators do within their current power to keep these facilities with a low population? My bed is what's going to happen now is a bunch of people are gonNA retire from your city and state systems. They're scared to death of catching this virus in the facility. Several staff members of died several kids of died. So they're legitimately scared. I'm not putting them down for that. I'd be scared 'cause they're in there with with everybody. There's never enough equipment. All those conditions I described for the kids. Staffers living conditions as well and in going home every night and hugging their husbands and wives in your kids and their work right. So my bet is a lot of people are gonNA leave this field and find other jobs and that might not be a all a bed thing. What we should be saying is don't replace these people replace. These people were restored. Justice programs. Replace these people with mentorship programs that formerly incarcerated people can staff like shift the system from his institution prison based system to a truly community based system where members of the community are cold designing the kinds of things they need to help their kids survive and thrive in their neighborhoods. 'cause trust me. They have way more of a stake in those kids making it in Brownsville. Then the guys and gals working at the correctional facility. Do I think that's a genius idea? I hope people listening to this. Take that into consideration So I think we just have like one or two more questions for you So our program always gets requests for volunteer efforts what our listeners or readers can do to be active in a social justice particularly criminal justice. I know it's kind of hard To volunteer on administration for like legislative level. But I do know of any organizations or even your own that have any volunteer Efforts that people could be a part of an also on the topic of like you're saying community based programs. Do you know of any that you could mention that people could look into and how to get this kind of like we'll going sure Community connections for you. The lebrons is one of my favorites. It's run by Ruben Austria. And he really is trying to push this kind of thing where people were communities figure out the best way of for their kids to stay home. I I liked the youth advocate program. It's gap INC DOT ORG and that is located in Harrisburg Pennsylvania but they have programs all around the country And they just really intensely work with young people to help keep them out of institutions and in communities in back home the arches mentoring program And transformative mentoring in general really very specifically looks to formerly incarcerated people to mentor young people so that they don't you know sort of travel the same path that those of only incarcerated people have traveled in they have been some really good research on it by the Urban Institute that found much lower rates of reconviction for kids that were part of the arches program. So that's kind of cool and then but if you're if you're interested in advocacy to try to Nick System Change Youth. I is bar none the best organizations in the country. It's run by woman. Liz Ryan and they have Worked very carefully and closely with advocates. In I think they're up to nine states now trying to get all of their youth prison closed and Money transferred from the system into the communities youth. I can't remember what they were getting. Mail address is but your school youth. I Yeah I actually before coming onto interview you last week. I was supposed to interview. Liz and I had been excited about that was researching Yada the no kids imprison movement and it seems like a really awesome organization. I'm glad that you mentioned that. I think that's actually. There are email address. Not Think it's actually no kids in prison dot org so you reminded me okay I think we got a lot of insight through this conversation. I'm really excited for our newsletter to come out that we can possibly Plug these organizations for people to follow up with. Click a link sense what they can do to help I guess is there anything else that you would want to say To the people listening at home sometimes I feel like we make this too complicated. In America. We have a really excellent juvenile justice system. That's the juvenile justice system. That kicks into gear every time a white middle class kid gets in trouble and they get in trouble they do. I was one of them and I got in trouble. But all sorts of resources get brought to bear programs staunch advocacy people. Fill the courtroom to try to keep that kid out of a debilitating locked institution because it's felt that kid has a future. That boy girl has a future and we want to build towards that future with the expectation that they're going to mess up when you're young what they're going to get over that they're Gonna. WanNa live a good decent life. They're gonNa WanNa College when we get jobs when they get married and you don't want to mess that up right so so we we don't have to invent something new. We just have to apply that to everybody equally. I don't want the white kids to suffer in the youth. Prisons and leave crappy lives with the black and Latino and native American kids to be able to get the same kind of CAIRN concern that any of us would want for our child if they got in trouble with the law. And so. When you're thinking about Jesus is complicated. What do we do next? It's not complicated. Is what any of US would want to do if I could got in trouble with the law and the rest is frankly details. I think that's really excellent and you're quite honestly genius in my eyes. I know for some people might seem so simple. That like this would be you know. Everyone's train of thought but unfortunately it's not everyone train of thought as I'm sure you've seen working in the system for a long time but I'm thankful that there are people like you vouching for Some positive changes and I appreciate the work that you do. I appreciate you letting US interview today and I think that this is going to be an awesome podcast and yeah just want to say thank you. Thank you for your damn small packages around one street. GotTa Find Out stone. Nobody's Admiral Street by street stone. Learn Open doors reality streets. Don't love nobody which is both a message to the youth in a timely reminders. Stay Hav Open doors is an Arts Justice Initiative on Roosevelt Island base in the long term. Care Facility where many members lip the open doors. Reality Poets are black. Mattino man who use wheelchairs largely due to street violence and who worked to save lives through arth appearing is the reality. Poets members educate young people in underserved communities about the consequences of running the streets. Letting kids know that guns lead. Not only to jailer death but also to life in the chair right now. These artists are living in a long term care facility. Currently being appropriated for cove in nineteen overflow and are forced to be locked in with positive patients. We encourage you to find out more about their work in join the conversation with them on their website open doors and my c Dot Org. This podcast is part of our weekly temperature check series which also includes original reported by currently incarcerated writers and least other journalism and advocacy efforts temperature. Check can be found through a works. Justice portal at Penn Dot Org Slash Works of Justice. This episode was researched and hosted by. Liz Fiore is equipped for myself. He can't on Knicks. Play Robert Pollock and produced by keats. 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"Dance ways the follow show late night. Parents dot com have none other. What last week. At this time. I had two gentlemen in the queue. Tori johnson big t and none other than my brother from another mother. Bucko groups ak will se committing paula. Living happy to be here as we know big vision matchup between the bucks and the saints one of the representative teams is here the other child. Speculate speculating energy wheel into to the cowardice or lack thereof. Whatever i'm here. I'm confident whereas the saints fan. We're we're that this division around has been kind of think we got a little timid nece on his phone is all that talk behind the scenes. All talk on all my good we give back to this I'm not sure what to say here. But buckle is good as always good to see you for weeding family dylan. Blessed be on. I deserve those at not. No i mean every bit of that. When i say the kids are still wide open if they busted in the studio just gotta live with that but Bedtime used to be a nine o'clock thing here. We said nine twenty and still not happening on running hard. Oh we got we got an aq- i mean who got checking it up. We got peter from the have seen peter from the from the community side and i got it. I must tell you have does a great job. That's always fan of the florida. You fan of the format. Gotta tell you big shout. The banner man bannerman is also in the building. This lot of people talking. Nfl tonight. i tell you that much man might patent show. He was giving santa monica postmortem on the tennessee. Titans looking in the game that are predicted to have as much offense as i expected looking with the second quarter. Derrick henry of twelve carries for twenty four yards. Yeah this is gonna work to unexpected haired successful seasons hopefully losing. Arthur smith to likely falcons doesn't hinder their their progress. I mean even get the win. You had to get years and you have something to build upon. Don't be so drug about it. Do you wanna go into you. Want to go into the fact that last week's gains guys were like five or six. No we both miss cleveland and we both missed i. La the rams seattle so out of six game. Who went any guy in vegas in handicapper will take that percentage me personally. I'm a little let down by Let me just say rob burger. Go ahead and anion cleats up of. It's time it's over for. You costs a lot of people living. I bannerman sam. Bills mafia bills mafia did not is important. You made a lot closer than i thought you a lot closer than what. It should have been pretty uncomfortable for a minute But still liberal thing are still expect him to the ground. We'll give her that later. So i guess we can do a quick rundown of last week was it. What team disappointed you the most last week my love for the bucks is rival secondly for hatred for the saints so teams always whomever's planes saints the biggest actual disappointment despite my is has been in those pittsburgh steelers no stat. Guys numbers guys are going to come at me and five hundred yards most completions ever in a playoff game those yards the game threw four touchdowns but anyone that watched the game so that i had first quarter and in specific he was dreadful. Absolutely awful couldn't do anything snap over touchdown out the gate. Pigs guys like m j stewart have not had a good secondary and close to twenty years. Now we're releasing a cornerback. Because he's not an a good sports. Cleveland browns get interceptions. Oh they've been that. That is a huge disappointment. I know pittsburgh steeler nation got to be extremely extremely disappointed but You know bears really sucked mitch. Trubisky is awful fellow. So i wanna throw something out to you and you tell me if this makes sense because i'm a fan you the guru. Okay i would like to see the pittsburgh steelers. And the new york jets conducted trade and saying sam donald to pittsburghers. I don't think anyone's trading for donald especially being this last year was deal coming up right. The jets yes yes. So you're not going to trade much capital guided the contract of one for one. You're not gonna get much return a guy that has been as the an same for two. I'm pretty sure unless been retires. They have to pay that man. Forty one million dollars. And i'm talking. That's if they cut him or otherwise that all that money they're on the hook for is like taurasi bonuses and cat restructuring things that major so's to my knowledge. I'm not a cap expert to my knowledge unless that man retires. They are on the hook for the full forty. Were really to trade for a quarterback who only gonna make somewhere like eight million songs are large numbers. You're not gonna pass fifty million dollars tied up at one position. Especially when you have. I was there deficiencies. They can't run the ball. Were damn that's been shown all year and especially in that playoff game outside of russia passer. Will they really don't do my very good on defense having mentioned fitzpatrick and hilton and some of the guys that have on defense really have been given away too much in the air for my liking so they got some holding field intriguing. Who sam darnold dean. That a wise decision on less been retired. Then they can get some relief in that regard. So if if you're saying hypothetically and you can get donald for say a second round pick absence or even causing woods is unhappy in philly. I've never been sold on wentz either. Because i haven't actually seen doing anything there. One year two thousand eighteen he did. He was was worth twenty eight touchdowns versus two pits the running a touchdown he was on pace to be the league. Mvp record position but outside of that one year. I think it has to do with a statue. Erected of his backup quarterback instead of him. I think mentally skewed the kid. Because he's got the talent he won national to. I was gonna stay. Came in out the gate. The whole bundle tile business as usual types of our liked his swagger confidence after that knee injury and had to nick foles won the super bowl. It seems like his confidence is what retold. Obviously you didn't have the support of his coaching staff. Given the turmoil that happened. And this is for. Doug peterson getting fired. I think there's a guy that would take on carson wentz most reciprocally indianapolis colts this lows. We got a little bit of cat. Moody deal with philip. Nike's warming to kobe. Percents contract i think is up why they have the ability to pay satellite. Give a couple of mid round picks and go get one set of kelly carson wentz and covered the india could be very detailed again so there are some options out. There wouldn't get into that when the season's over this time of year as a bug fan. I'm talking off season but dammit katie. I'm still talking. Play football all right. let's start. Let's little playoff football. Let's run it through Wait before we talk. Playing football helped me out. I hear about this guy. Every other year he's retiring his medical issues he's going into the booth. He's doing this urban. Meyer going to the. Jags are you. A fan of urban meyer or not no plain simple as a florida state fan. Anyone who goes to state of the university of florida. You cannot be a fan of them. Its by laws. It's underwritten our contract Do i respect the man. Absolutely the guy. It's a bowling green to a bowl. Game goes to utah. Had them undefeated may smith number one wanna. Bcs ballgame with them those to florida. You know ron zook. Air they were in twelve four one football team turn limited perennial championship contenders. One to all of a sudden team. Oh an end is all those guys are gone. All of a sudden i think the dude is shady very smart and i think there's no better person to build a winter now if you mon jerry. Ten twelve year. Run into this guy. You're not going to be coming in three years. Coats are good football filled. Your good football team is set up for someone else to come in for a bill. I think it's the perfect set. The guy as a man. no. I respect him. As a football coach tara has eleven draft picks and the guy can handle multiple personalities into the little joke a racist murder a preacher walking into a bar that he was able to handle all of those win championships. So i think the dynamic of the turnover that they're gonna have each hands no canadair to get that program going in the right direction. But i wouldn't expect more than three years all right. Let's let's jump into this. La green bay. I didn't see la vanson last week. Is this going to be a total beatdown. What what's your take on this. No because what. The season has shown us what last week showed us. Their defense is formidable. They all play off caliber nano. Donald got banged up and when it did try to come back in he was not effective at all. So i still take eighty percent amdahl over sam near every defensive player in the lead. So i'm not worried per se above the defense but one thing we seen that hamburg green bay packers as they can be. They can be gained by specific it illegal. Their offense if they can unlike would seattle. They can be patient. Stick to the short games into the screen game. Take the underneath stuff. Take would they give you could beat the. He's not worried about jerry. Both adult jared goff was what forty percent completion seventy yards total. Their offense is not going to move the needle if they can confuse and mess up aaron when they did russell was working. Russell wasn't played. Did you get together. Crafted way back then and this worst ever seen in place. So you have to say that. Iran's defense did at them so we've seen enron when he plays to have defenses. We've seen him. You know kinda. Fold a bit especially in the playoffs here. Dave ramsey locking up. davante adams. Then you got who. Who else are you relying on value. Scaling i'm not a allen lazard show. He's a tough guy but he's not really a matchup. Problem is really going to come down to screen game with aaron jones while tongue in in the same against those linebackers. That is the matter. I think the packers win. But after what i saw last saturday i not surprised it was up to the beat them. Do they cover the spread. The numbers what five and half. Yeah say no. I would take the boys with the rams and i would bet the under heavy heavy heavy younger opening game. You're twenty to thirteen at the most like seventeen thirteen. You know what. I mean it can go of the spray i just don't i don't think they went by touchdown. I think it's more of a few four point game because arranged adrian's is playing it at high. Want to give a big shout out the banham and he's in the queue and he's talking about e has the rams winning donald's a beast he think. La wins tampa wins tampa beats allen. Colleague we get a little ahead of ourselves and that the game will be in crapping. I'm kelly. I'm thinking like you for clarity. That would be a home games so that that would be my ideal scenario but not nothing He stayed also packers. only homefield. Advantage is the cold weather. I mean the majority of their team is is not from their air. Golf southern california kid majority guys they have. Are you know a southern nature but do business playoff football. I don't care if it's twelve degrees hundred and twelve intensities From what i read on the initial weather report is no no expectations of snow. Just going to be cold and one step on trump as those guys. Don't feel that comb your skin a in. I've never been a big proponent of that lesson rain or snow or absolute miserable conditions. there's no fans in the stands. Communications not gonna be a problem. It's just all you toughen up mentally and physically the of the code of dat. No doubt that these these professionals are going to be fully prepared for the next game. Is the ravens at the bills bills. Mafia i wanna before you get started. I stand corrected. I said i was sitting here saying last week. Democratic governor no fans in the stadium Totally wrong. I look at one. But it's like it kinda goes against conventional wisdom if you look around. Only only republican governors are for the most part having fans in the stands. Even some of the problem governors the sensor gray louisiana very red state allowing any to my knowledge. I read a press clipping wounded show. It said that they were pushing for allow up to six thousand fans. Said you guys are gonna have a six thousand writing this misfield and everything. I was no the only only reason. I dismissed you because king cuomo comes out every week and tells you how is going to be a guy was important. He thought he was that we'd be in trouble. Jack was one hell of a football game last week. Those fans who served we do that. I can imagine game to watch very very entertaining first game of the year towards the playoffs. I enjoyed it. I think the bill job on that fumble call at the end of it but it didn't matter leading score newhaven much closer than when needed to be buckle and this week coming up. They're talking about snow in buffalo. And typically if you have a power run game by say. You're tennessee titans running with. They like to run. A snow. game is perfect for you. What the ravens run with. A lot of quick motion arpaio. Quick cutbacks countered of that speed and those quick cuts negated in snowy whitfield. So i actually think this weather gives you the bills change it slows the long game down a little bit because we know that the the bills games that we of their defense there saturday tout very good complete with anybody Baltimore not really looking for baltimore. Beat anyone in the air game but it buffalo can score on defense the way they're capable of scoring and you make the more to pass in this terrible twenty some odd degrees snowy weather. It's gonna be a damn blowout close. But if i give initial prediction on his game on the somewhere twenty seven twenty buffalo to win okay okay. I thought you were going to give a little bit wider i. I could see maybe thirty four twenty three. Or how would i would. I would love to because of the way they score. But when i watched that defense doing derrick henry ryan tannehill defense came to play gotcha. Great came to play in. I doubt very seriously they they. They play lesser this week. You're gonna party play even harder. They're playing back to back weeks to scoring offenses in the whole nfl. So if my understanding watching baltimore divas play. You're gonna see closer game touchdown game. If someone gets thirties. I will be surprised especially in that weather. We jerry miller chiming in jerry. Thanks joining the session. Jerry says bills thirty five seventeen. And that's what on sunday in september right to together a track me and i don't think baltimore can can keep up with the way buffalo scores but again buffalo's defense last week against tennessee and then this last three weeks above baltimore. David's windy windy. Get and talented and playing with. It looked every bit now the six weeks or so prior to that they were. They were dominik. So that's why they put themselves in that position as we're gonna get in. But now they got the mon going. They'd been a playoff move through mixed in any buffalo is have the output. Just like what we saw indy. I had the dog themed third against anyway. Anti being held down the tutorials up. So i'm taking the same amount of points score for buffalo giving the nod do buffalo's defense that they hold raymond's over twenty i you know i'm probably wrong. I'm going to say the least competitive game. This weekend. is cleveland at kansas city. I'm probably gonna be wrong. You're right playing with house. Money brother did they. They ten win season. They wanna playoff game. They had no business. Winning in pittsburgh. hats off to them and their brace they. They deserve every bit of joy that they have right now. But chase claypool. Today it will be short. Lived even though he's a sucker for that they're they're gonna get destroyed mill chance this game honestly date payroll puts up forty two. This is forty two twenty three written all over their head of the brains out on his team. I wanna deviate for a quick second before we get to the premier game of the weekend. So then you see. Eric being amee stand or is he definitely out of there. I mean because this just just just bucko you guru your offense coordinator. You got andy reid the left you got packed my home. Sit right you. You got tons of weapons. Do you sit there and live out this dynasty or step out on your own but the questions. Very simply answering. I'm going to be remembered. The assistant coaches from these dynasties guy it was a cry for manned win. He wants to do it on his own. Take the the to have gotten in the organization. You're gonna pro- taking you build on that and make it your own. So there's no man that said i'm happy to be a coordinator thing i the thing that shocks me with a guy like me even though he has his team still alive so you can't hire them just yet anyway. But the fact that the media doesn't have a lot of traction. O.'neil arthur smith to the falcons. Will you saw urban meyer to to the jags were talking about. The jets are probably already front. Loaded for peterson about the enemy. Being the chargers texans teams that we just interviewed him yesterday. But i'm wondering zanu in bad information out there but to my knowledge three or four years ago so yeah incident domestic violence over someone. I wonder if that will live on. His personal record is causing some ause raising solve twitter so qena face value. I'm not quoting accurate. But i want to say that. There's something prohibiting teams will make that joke. Because he's been there prime to ready for three years. He has gotten the love. I wonder if we're just hyping the guy the nfl teams are interested in. I don't know. But i think it'd be great in houston or san diego. La okay so the game a week. You got the bucks. You got the saints. If i had you know two other guys on here that were saints fans. I would say eight. Because i'm rolling with the bucks on us worn terrier you get this always taking you with me. Get spanked on. I don't know what it was a sunday night or football. Absolutely what words. That team came out. One hundred percent flat injured god when a broken finger and surgery and things of that nature. And i think we're going out of market. Well we had a whole melanoma issues. We were still dealing with inconsistencies. And tonio brown's first game on the field. There was a whole bunch of stuff that went wrong in that game. And we never got our traction. If if saints fans and saints players are beholden to that week nine performance and thinking. That's what they're going to see sunday afternoon. I'm i'm glad because i promise you. This is not the same team. They beat the brakes off of what we gonna come already. Got your back ted. You know the history. No no. he don't know. I'm telling you i go way. Back with bucco bruce and feel like censor a good team. That defense is the doing the lane for raising the plane above their. I don't think there's talented as as as the plane get away with murder. It seemed like every penalty was gonna subversion that game lot of trash talking a lot of taunting and they get a lot of teams to react and get personal fouls against them. they give it to us the bears. They're good at what they do but they're so very beatable in this round is division around as what three or four years in a row now twice you telling me kirk cousins can do it but tom brady. Can't jedi you're grazie We we are clicking applying playing at a level that had never seen a bug team. Play five straight games over thirty points. defense opportunistic. Their plan will to salt on his zone for my liking. But i feel that that changes this week. Two men under a lot of pressure a lot of lot of changing up scheme. You won't see conventional todd bowles zone defense problems so an essence which is saying i mean is we're gonna have green bay tampa bay and buffalo and kansas city next week. I'm hoping betterman. Or whoever was centered. they've got the rams. Well look. I would love nothing more than this easier for you. Then nomin certainly easier points being at home and not being an emmy cold. And aaron rodgers or jared goff. Jerry intrigue aaron rodgers. I mean honestly the way. Our two teams are built we match williams bankers or speed on defense to go along with. Will they try to do. And then our offense line again that that eline. They won't touch brady. I think you'll pick them apart very easily I just don't wanna face again just like our situation with the saints. Beat the brakes off of us. We be about thirty five points When they were undefeated. And you know the god at that point. We picked him off twice and really destroyed them. That's going to resonate in brain and they're gonna come with higher. I don't wanna play the packers. I think we look. We're gonna handle sixty cents. This right here is i. Think teams in the nfc. I think both teams can can win next week. Whoever wins this game. I think is representative. But i'm gonna pick my team. I'm the say we're gonna lose no gonna lose but i'm thinking you know you're peaking very early you saying the divisional round is your is your super bowl on. I think i don't think the rams beat the saints or the bugs with the way that they they have their injuries and the way that they're they're playing right now on offense. I don't think they can score either one just like i don't think they can school with the packers. Have the packers it. I don't think it green bay matched physicality that the saints playing with right now. They're more finesse team. And i think the saints hit him in the mouth doing so. Yeah i think setting these are the two best teams in the nfc right now. All right listen buckle. We did this in just over. thirty minutes. just over I think we did it under. Actually all poaching related questions Really excited for this weekend. i'm really excited to see if big t shows up next week. Because if if the if the saints layer egg thirty one and done you can guarantee if i'm correct and we beat them. Which does what was gonna happen. You won't see tv for a couple of me. I'm accustomed to. There's i'm used to this. But he actually thinks that we have no chance and why he wouldn't come in here. I think he doesn't really believe that. That's a whole chest talk. He's nervous the divisional round. They've laid a every single year. Their regular season team only eighty thousand yard passer. They have one title. They are a gross disappointment to innovate. So i hope that we send her breezy nbc. I'll pack is dan bags lovingly band. So hey so the people that are also in the room. Virtually man man day Jerry miller and there's a few other folks no bene- man. I didn't say brady has no chance. Come on come on radi ted. I'm you have to brady. I mean lifelong jets fan so but you give them that many weapons around him. A lot of weapons man and the key to this game is the newest weapon. Antonio brown i think is the capable the game. Hello mike evans lattimore. Does it really good job. And he's already with the need already. So i really think antonio brown their safeties and linebackers is going to be where we were. We win this game. But i wanna thank you for coming through. Get this done in for under thirty. Five minutes All people in the room also buckle waking. We find you family on twitter or facebook at bucco. Bruce eighty-three altogether. I'm i curse a little bit more on twitter than some people light so you know. Take caution that but they're very approachable debate. Anything or i love this stuff jerry. Bill winner you on next Whenever i want to be whenever ted has me on. I personally don't have my own program made me and toya in talks of having one of those created I love to interact with any you guys and you guys got a show in I follow me on here and tents trying to coach me on this format. I really liked the format like what it can bring. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you bucko you and your family I appreciate the half's community because the people on here like this and we're gonna we're gonna give it a shot you know we'll give this a shot and we'll see how far this takes us but i'm really enjoying it absolutely appreciate your game. It's always a pleasure this time next week. I'll be here this time next week. You have the other sound you for next thursday God bless man. All right man good-looking bucco.

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Ep 197: Felipe Esparza

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Ep 197: Felipe Esparza

"Yeah hey everybody. I'm not a clown. Well maybe you comedy clown but not an actual painted clown. But you don't know because you can't see me. So how can you trust me. What was that noise. Was that a car. Was that my nose. You'll never know. But hey it's steph from comedy advice podcast and i'm here to deliver you a steaming hot episode and obe oi careful because you might burn your ear tongues because this one is specially hot because bring on special guests. Full bay esparza. That's right. he won last comic standing. He has four specials and he just released on net flicks to specials at the same time. Nnl me as mo- tempo. He did an english one and he did a spanish one and they're both fantastic. They're actually a little bit different too. So we talk about that. We talk about how he ended up and why he wanted to do is special in english and spanish how he brushed up on that spanish and then we gave some good old fashioned advice. But oh my gosh. Support him watch his specials. 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Is that what you guys want for me. How can i get your dollar bills. Just tell me what you want. And i will do it a wannabe that that f. p. Ftp fulltime podcast or not file. Transfer protocol anyway guys. I'm getting worked up. So i'm going to let you get into the episode here. We go comedy advice. Podcast podcast death and friends. Statement to be taken literally was up. Seven pope cast blue. What's up what's up. I'm so happy to have you leave from the albums. those are my sound panels. It's my attempt to look like. I'm a professional podcast or but judea as is right. Yes the grades on the side of the wall. But i don't think much of it. It's full of smoke. Oh yeah. That's what i used to have before. I got my first patron on my patriot on page and now upgrade with the sound panels. So we're getting there slowly but surely they helped us bone bouncing over and over. They do exactly they do. And i'm allowed guy. I've got this other side with panels right in front of me. So whenever i allowed her screw whenever i am loud. It doesn't reverberate so and i've got a hearty laugh. So who go all right. Well everybody please welcome to a comedy advice. Podcast my name is stephan. Sultani and i have a very special guest today. He's the winner of nbc's last comic standing season seven has has released multiple specials on. Hbo and netflix including his latest special bad decisions or this issue on. He's the first comedian to have a special in both english and spanish and he regularly shows on nbc superstar superstar. And the eric. Andre show everybody please welcome li-pei s was summer. Buddy oh my gosh. It's so good to have you before we dive into you your life. Your new specials wanted to ask ask my guess first off. How are you doing. I'm doing good man. What have you been doing to keep up. And and got a pass. The time i know. It's been really hard especially for comedians with the closing down of comedy clubs and everything like that. I've actually been busy. I from From march till mad. They didn't do anything. No stand up. But i got to work on a movie. It was all covid. Nineteen we had doctors. We have people checking people's temperature. It's a movie called dumb seventh at union. So the union with so much borrow starring and now i'm like a co star and we shot that movie and then I should have superstar episode last. Let's this week. I haven't been back since season four. Yes that's awesome and I did my first voiceover. Wow yes up next year on adult swim and luckily i got to do a lot of stuff on in two thousand nineteen before the pandemic started. I got to do a whole season of eric. Andre which is out right now. Every sunday at midnight on adults swim identify them flakes. And i would look at enough to be one of the last comment to shoot a special before up a shot mine in the beginning of june. Okay i was about to ask about that. Because i saw the special which is hilarious. By the way. And i saw at the end you were taking pictures with fans and everything like that so i was wondering if it was pre cova ed. Post cova coleman. Wow wow that's awesome. And then i was gonna ask to. Obviously you've got a lot going on. You decided to do not just one special but to specials and not just in one language but two languages. So you've you've got bad decisions in english melissa's yoenis in. What was the driving force for you to say. You know what. I'm not going to do one but i'm gonna do to and i'm going to do one in spanish i don't know i just want to do something different. I wanted to challenge myself like my first basho. At only one week to prepare and got my own material and play on together two weeks and the second special my wife and i we both produced light with data with our own money and this special deal with h never blake's so we through when you know what what would just do do specials when an english word spanish and asked me. Do you speak spanish. Good enough so i i. Once i had like an hour of english i started working on the spanish hutch. What more mature of that. Good into spanish and further the wrong way. I like riding my jokes and then going through google translate. The words were not translating. Well yeah yeah yeah. Yeah so to may be wanna make comedian. They've named poets. My in the road with me and helped me translate the material that i could translate from english spanish and i took one that once a month to those. Oh my god and what is it like doing comedy over in. Tijuana is different because in america. A reduced banish common in america. And you mess up the word in english. The very forgiving. Because they're like you know they. They're my skin american crowd. They know english and they know spanish rice of you messed ba- word is probably a word. They mess up to so the with you But it makes me go if you miss about word order. Spanish you silence. Can we messed up by spanish word. Go back to england now. The majority of the people there in my spanish lengthy wanna spoke may lisa first language was spanish and of course there are some people they were show. That were deported from the united states. And they were living in mexico now and they went to my show. of course. then you everything Shit that was surprising because a of my audience. When i thought noticed once like the word spread that i was come into mexico to do shows another people from san diego bakersfield. We're actually thinking of drive to one two for the day to eat tacos by liu jemima's and they were to show and then after the show go back to the united states for real men prison ho l. from mexico pygmy open san diego and will go to mexico the border of mexico go eat hang out and then after the show we'll go to a bakery and then i'll walk into united states on foot and water and then my friend will meet me and with his car across the border. Then we'll just baiji san diego away. That's crazy man. And i was going to ask so. Did you just go down to tijuana and you just did shows were there any open mic nights that you had to do. I don't even know. If they're open mic nights. In tijuana mexico an open mic seen an array in a in a paid comedy scene. Okay and the place that i go to went to. It's like a paint comedy show. I don't know how much money they get paid in in In a in pesos. But i know that the common getty forty five bucks and that's a lot of money in mexico because they average what the average pay is one hundred fifty leak whole jamaica forty five bucks doing stand up. Comedy to ten minutes for the comics was good. But what i would think gay to pay for these shows i get paid for nonetheless. Spanish shows i would just show up and then the money will go to the comics. Oh that's nice. Nice as really cool and i have to say too. I was watching the spanish version after i watched the english version. And i know you were saying you tried to get as much of the stuff that you could translate. And then some of it didn't go in. I know with your english version. You started talking about you. Started with the bit about your dog and getting older and go out to the club. And you're like oh man. I miss my dog and i think in the spanish version you would start it off with a guy was asking you for something to eat or just something when you were walking to the store and then you added some taglines in spanish and stuff so i thought that was really cool. How you were able to yeah. It wasn't just a direct google. Translate type thing you actually put in these accents or special bits for each version so you get a little unique tastes with each want. Yes it through your flavor. I remember when i was young. I saw rodney dangerfield command before he died and he always did. Were in an beat up. Army jacket and sweats and hawaiian t shirt and from vans and his young fifty five year old wife was there she was like seventy five at or By wife was a she wants to be a model as she was. Twenty was wants to get done at fifty five and when he went up there. You took a paper like this people at dan right any putting glasses. Hey they your dogs both other character. Oh shit and his wife was On the back of the stage that this was a reporter like a soldier no way. He's been alana chicks in his seventies but no-one no-one said i can hold the tape recorder. What do your set if he had an online dating profile was still alive that he wouldn't even have to write that leg. Then everybody will say in nine. That's true that's true this and when he just said all right she said when he said all right. She stopped the tape and put in her purse. Damned owed. damn. I was going to say too. 'cause i know that your wife and you you said it earlier to you guys have produced and made specials together. Yeah how how is she involved with. Does she hold the tape recorder to. It's almost like holding the purse on the guys at phone. We'll good. I know you've got a lot of projects going on and then you also have been doing the what's up. Fool odd gas. Yes we'll have eric andrea the show. Oh my gosh. I was listening to eric andrei. I was listening to you. Also have you have a lot of cool people on there yet. Carmen lynch who is also a bilingual comedian comedy in spanish and english. You also had dog face. The guy that with the cranberry juice was skateboarding. So it's a really cool podcast. How how have you been able to keep it up since two thousand fourteen. It's a long time we've been doing on zoom lately and we started off in the studio but now we do not only on zoom right. I've been lucky with an in the beginning. Very lucky with the guest that i had because it was just people meet streets like one of my guests within frankie kalil and now he's on netflix. And that guy was like one of the guys that he came out of prison after going. Eighteen years for a murder didn't commence and now let it. He told me when i met that. He voted for me will he. The president mates what he was at or watching last comic standing and they voted for me. Yeah the silent minority people other four daughter for people that were not show can't say that that they had inmates voting for them. God yes seriously. Who's asterix and asterix to my special now in our god who says inmates can't vote voted in bit you. Inmates are voting for american idol. Too oh hell yes. I'm sure and every illeg a vote for number five here dancing with the stars tiger king check. She's going for a god cheese. What as dog face on everything bro. I mean he is hot right now. But i wonder how to stay but right now they should grab him and put him on dancing with the stars. Oh my god that's a good idea. Dude how yeah because he really does nice his partner could be the cranberry juice and then hit. That would pictures. They're showing up angel with with long boards. That'd be pretty good. I think we should pitch this idea a dog face to the last fast and furious movie. Oh my god. Vin diesel replacement right. They're they're doing the last one now. Number nine holy shit the last. Who is vin diesel. Still in it or did he has okay. that's the last imagine. Brilliant a whole live about being in fashion of furious. I would do it if i could either do. I don't know that or dancing with the stars. I would do a live in fast and furious. Yeah me i would like to judge the british bake off all my god. Are you into that. Oh paul hollywood is my hero man. I love that show black guy. He's the judge with the silver hair. He's good. I like that old lady. Oh peru yes. I love how she almost i think. Call it a pru gasm when she eats. It's so good. She's like oh that's delicious. That's absolutely scrumptious. Because there's a little old lady that gives you like side compliments. He no like double hand compliment. Was this recipe goes no. That is my old granny recipe. Oh so if you don't win. We have to blame your granny for this baker. Paul hollywood guy. He's a stern judge. He looks at the contestants with those piercing blue eyes and he's like a bit boring and you're like it it's just these soft words that means so much and i don't know if i could handle that dude good but it's over could over good over cook for being chris. Yeah they're like. I don't know if this hit the brief for being a tart the filling were very hard for a. Oh but today's episode is presented by state bags. State bags makes beautiful well-made inclusively cool products while using the power of business to give back to shift the narrative around social injustice forever. Stay bag purchase. 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It's actually not by a person by a robot and it's called inspire robot. The robot that uses ai. To take some of the wisest words known to man and mash together for really interesting quote. So i'll read this one and then we can see if it makes any sense to you fully. This week's quote from inspire bought says just because you're a butcher. It doesn't mean you should act like a weirdo inspiring. I think maybe fully bay. This might be saying. Don't let your career reflect who you are as a person totally one hundred percent because show up through the party with a bloodied t shirt. Yeah nobody nobody wants to hear about. Nobody wants to talk about knives on the work life balance. That's what it is. Okay bill butchery but they drawing aside day. Let come come with a different conversation. Yeah bunch of but also night giant perspective. That's right that's right. I like to cut into interesting subjects. Like norseman her. Britain's greatest bake off. Actually my dad me. Once when i know knucklehead he said he's you'll find a job where at the end of the at the end of the eight hours when you come home you look at your hands and you don't have to wash them to eat But you know as a comedian man. You gotta watch your hand after that microphone. You're either gonna wash your hands or they're not that dirty shit we show up to wear the has to lean. Get not chicken nuggets. I you know what being a digital marketer. My hands are pristine very clean immaculate and then just yesterday i had gotten into a tea bag or something and i saw a little dirt under my nails and i thought oh my god i'm going to have to scrub and scrub the get this out. And then i realized what a princess that i've become so i got lucky to say the least comedians as well although with cova i think everyone has to wash their hands. Don't they all right. Well this first question it comes from our fan. Joel thank you. Joe says my stepdaughter blocked me on all socials. What should i say or not say to her. At christmas i've been in my stepdaughter's license. She was nine. She's now twenty. We've always had pretty good relationship but not super close. I just found out. She blocked me from all her socials about two weeks ago. I tried to texter to ask her. Why but i'm also blocked on her phone to. We're supposed to get together for christmas. Should i say anything. What should i do. I will start all her friends one by one and tell her for all her friends that you're gonna have a surprise party for her in december the orange shows up Oh shit that's pretty good. Okay i like that. I like that do you do you think that she should say anything i do. They live together it no. It doesn't look like it. They don't live together. Maybe discipline something. Joe herman show little. And it's on sale Oh mercy screamed at her and she's gonna catch when she went to rehab now realize that is a problem to our lives. Oh shit the real toxic is the stepparent here. So y- block. do you really want to. I mean what importance is it to see your stepdaughter on social media. Is it going to give you that much joy to see what she's up to. Instead you could just talk to that person. Maybe i guess. I think they live far away. Maybe really far away. They have a relationship at that. But if you live in the same house same town air enough enough literature literally live her life. That's right yeah let if you love something let it block you on social media and if it loves you back it will unblock. You is the same joke as to say. I said that. I met my daughter on facebook. She let me accommodated when it gets a child support to block her. So maybe it's better that they stay blocked so you know if you have a stepfather while you want you. Why would you want your children social media so they could look at your tiktok video. Look how stupid is and you know. Want to hear from us but you have wanting a family member like a daughter. Go dad s stupid with the next seventy us. You know You don't want to your kids. Do they comment on your stuff on social media. No i wanna block on damage. They're really it allowed to go in about sixty bucks. Esley shit all right. We've got our last question. This one is from sandy. Founded on reddit says feels bad to end calls. I'm a shy person who was also extremely awkward in social situations. I really don't know how to keep a conversation going. So when someone calls me and talks for quite a while i start to stress myself out about how to leave the call. Sometimes i stay on the call for hours. What do i do to hang up. Just don't even say anything. I i it's more like. She's not in the conversation. I think she morning listener. So if you're a listener med. You could just start talking to. The other person will hang up on your story. So oh that's that's a good way to express yourself. Woman is shy to the big listener. 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The Future of Pakistan-U.S. Relations: A Conversation With Makhdoom Shah Mahmood Qureshi of Pakistan

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The Future of Pakistan-U.S. Relations: A Conversation With Makhdoom Shah Mahmood Qureshi of Pakistan

"This event is presented by the council on foreign relations. We'll good morning. This is the council on foreign relations. We are thrilled to be back. After a hiatus of eighteen months though i should clarify that we never went away. We just did not have in person meetings so this is the first of what will be many. This week and beyond. We're experimenting but the goal will be gradually as it safe to open up our meetings to more people in person but We will also continue to have a virtual dimension the most overused word i would predict in the english language. This year will be hybrid and going forward for the foreseeable future and then some Our meetings will be hybrid and we'll have an in person dimension as well as a virtual dimension I am excited that today for this first meeting this first hybrid meaning. We are joined by the foreign minister of pakistan. Foreign minister makhdoom shah mahmood. Qureshi is in his second tour as as foreign minister of his country. And as you can see mister minister we've got a few people here. We have many more. Who are participating. Virtually or digitally the way this will work is in a few seconds. I will step off. The minister will make some opening remarks. Then he and i will have a conversation and then we'll open it up to to you our members and we'll get it all done within an hour. One thing that has not changed is are punctuality we we we want to continue to respect the time of our of our guest as well as our members so we will Begin and end the exclusive on time as we possibly can so again mr minnesota i wanna thank you for Coming here for being for initiating the the new person hybrid era of the council on foreign relations were were. We're very pleased to have you back on our on our premises so sure. The microphone is yours. Thank you mr. Richard has business here for distinguished guests lead gentleman. It is a pleasure to be back at the council on foreign relations at a time when we're facing several challenges of a truly global nature the counsel's mission of promoting understanding between the united states. And the rest of the world is more relevant than ever ladies and gentlemen. I am sure that recent developers that stan are on everyone's mind and i would share pakistan's perspective on them into your calls but i want to begin with how pakistan envisions the future. It's relationships with the united states. I do not need to educate this learned audience on these cyclical nature and the historic ups and downs orthodox. Tom us relationship. Our engagement has often been narrowly framed dictated either by short security interests or the imperative to deal with the challenge. We want to break out of this baton. After the her fiqh september eleven attacks pakistan and united states came together to decimate al qaeda's core leadership architecture. Our corporation produced results leading prison biden in good earlier this year that the united states had achieved its core objective in a strong now the us military mission and whilst is over we want to take our relationship beyond counter terrorism and afghanistan. Which of course would mean priorities for pakistan. The united states remains an important partner. The united states still our largest export market and a major source of foreign remittances cultural affinity between the united states and pakistan which is one of the largest english-speaking countries in the world talented. Young pakistanis county. New gravitate towards american college campuses and silicone valley incubators. We have a large and politically engaged. Box american community. That is a bridge between our two countries. In short we have all the ingredients in place to build a more substantive and abroad based relationship that is anchored in trade investment and people-to-people linkages as pakistan shifts. Its focus towards economics. We want to leverage arken activity infrastructure including china pakistan comic colorado enhance regional trade and economic integration. We see the united states as an important partner in disregard sitting at the roads of south and central issue pakistan is a market of over two hundred. Twenty million people with a growing middle class bacchus. John's young but exciting startup tech cultural shoe cases are untapped investment potential. You companies like extra mobile. Have a long history of working. In pakistan where the government's crime friendly energy policies that are now tremendous they offer to mundus opportunities for us companies that specialize in renewable and clean energy and economically. Strong pakistan can be an anchor possibility in region that suffered through forty years or four in afghanistan pakistan can work with the united states to develop and finance corporation to generate economic activity along the pakistan. Hottest border this couldn't turn help people rebuild. Their war ravaged country the pakistan juice biggest on of aniston quadrilateral could be similarly leverage to support of hanson's both war construction lytton gentleman the gamut of primis bronco was elected on a promise of delivering jobs growth and prosperity to the people of pakistan. We knew that achieving such an ambitious domestic agenda would be impossible without peace on our borders accordingly. Prime minister mt han offered that he would take two steps towards peace. If india dick's one our message was simple. Pakistan and india should be fighting over the instead of each other unfortunately in not only spurn are overtures piece but took actions in occupied german. Kush weed that have pushed south issue into a blind alley. Prime minister han had come to the un two years ago and warned that india's illegal and unit adlon actions in dispute not of charleston. Cash bid would not silence the pd people's cry priscilla determination no matter what level of violence and suppression india. Unleashes against the cassini's this has proved to be true only this month the death of kush media leader so you are the shark allowing illustrated the cynical manner in which indian occupation is being perpetrated and he was so frightened of the moral authority will by the ninety one year old freedom fighter would spend the last ticket of his life under house arrest. It did not even let mr lyons family bury him. As but his vicious this was critical to say to these boxton remains committed to finding a peaceful solution. Gojam one kushner dispute which is the main obstacle lasting peace instability in the region up to india to break the impasse and create conditions for the disruption of meaningful dialogue with pakistan but seeing the right wing religious frenzy. That seems to have india. And its grip. And morty we are not holding up it we do hope though that the international community would not sacrifice the principles of freedom and self determination on the altar of political expediency and exigencies of crit- bar competition when it comes to helping the long suffering people of kashmir ladies and gentlemen the stunning development in quanta style have created a new reality and reset the regional landscape. No one could have expected that the honey government would fall so quickly on biden announced his decision to draw all droops from various thon pakistan kept calling for more vigorous international diplomacy in support of an inclusive political settlement in san. We want that. If we do not achieve such an outcome more instability even civil war but ensue barcus on also joined the genetic states russia and china in the extended quaker explicitly. Can we are opposition to any come imposed by force and weinstein urged both the government and the taliban to show flexibility while the taliban were expanding potato treat under the control. Honeys government was busy inciting hatred against pakistan on social media. Unfortunately successive of handguns found it. Easier to play to the international gallery to blame pakistan for every problem in afghanistan rather than looking after corruption and wrought within in the end mr honey and his cohort simply deserted. The of han people expensively trained and equipped of on security forces were to demoralized to fight any longer for a corrupt capita critic. There's huntings final. Act was emblematic of how he had governed. He lift qantas tan to when orderly transition had almost been negotiated. The speed of honey regime's collapse proved the president biden had made the right call has bought. He and prime arcand have pointed out. Continuing the war in san would not have changed the outcome. Can i want to come. pre free. On the who lost of honest on to beat that seems to be underway in the united states. First of all the international coalition did achieve its mission in afghanistan. Al-qaeda is a shadow. A what it calls on the morning of september eleven two thousand one and the us mainland has not been attacked again. these are clear successes achieved with pakistan's or christian running leap are noticing some old narratives about pakistan resurfacing in the debate. Let's be clear pakistan and the united states shared the same objectives in even if we did not always see eye to eye on how to achieve them. Pakistan should not be blamed for correctly. Diagnosing the limitations of trying to solve the political problem in stan through military beans instead of re-litigating the past. We now have to look forward. Our most urgent priority must be to avoid a humanitarian crisis. We should not add to the miseries offhand. People is already home. Grenade four million refugees. The collapse of the economy would cause another refugee crisis at our border. Since pakistan cannot take more of heart refugees they will inevitably look beyond to the gulf europe. Even to north america it is in our collective interest to ensure that our actions do not make economic refugees of hans who have otherwise new wish to leave their country pakistan shares. Some of the international community's concerns about the composition of the government in afghanistan. But there is a new political reality in afghanistan as an immediate neighbour. Box on cannot afford to disengage. Because of the evacuations of medications international aid workers at risk of harms that we are continuing to facilitate. The international community should hold the taliban to their commitments. On providing safe passage to those who want to leave the country as well as dr terrorism human rights and political inclusivity with care from engagement and we may be able to watch the taliban in the right direction ostracized on assan proved to be a mistake in the one thousand nine hundred ninety s and it would be a mistake now and isolated an unstable honest. Tom would be exactly the kind of place that would leo. Terrorist groups bark assad is already experiencing and upsurge in terrorist attacks by take it alabama pakistan and the baluchistan liberation army and we all witnessed to horrific consequences of the suicide bombing in kabul last month. So why we should expect the taliban to honor their pledge not allow terrorist groups. Use han territory to attack any other country again. We have to find more creative ways to elicit their cooperation. On sustainable basis gordon will not do constructive engagement and steps to overt. Meditating crisis and stabilize economy would be indispensable should also be vigilant against regional spoilers over to opposed to the peace process and are clearly disappointed. That honest john seems to have averted long and bloody civil war for now in the final analysis and inclusive and state in san remains. the international. community's bist gone to with some investment should continue pursue it. I thank you thank you. Thank you mister minister. As i said i'll begin with a few questions. And then we'll open it up to our our members since understandably a lot of what you said dealt with afghanistan. Why don't i start there as well. Then we can move on to some other things. How does pakistan view the taliban victory and to what extent pakistan quote unquote take credit. For what do you. what what. How important or significant do you see your role Have having been over the decades would would you want to know is taking credit for their not cooper thirty not their ascendancy in my view is primarily the failure of the regime. That was in office over there. You can offer mean oblivious. What is going on. Let's begin with the elections. Elections were held and they became controversial. You saw two prisons being sworn in on the same day you are not unaware of these squabbling within the government. You are not unaware of misgovernance the aptitude and the corruption That was associated with that regime. Their failures in my view gave taleban the ascendancy that they have today. What do people in tucson looking for. In my view they are tired of fighting. They've seen conflict continuous conflict forty years and they yearning for peace so anyone that can give them hope and peace. They will be willing to engage with that accardi. Unfortunately the regime the usher of gunny government failed and lost credibility in the people and you saw when they were moving from province to province resistance from the people are those who say that the taliban could not have won a military victory over the years without sankt physical sanctuary in pakistan. What is what is your reaction to that assessment pakistan. You know who would know better than you. You've started a song written about a song and your party on a song. I recognize that bud back. When did the of hands move into the soviets moved there and then We had to. We had to shelter them. And we sort of hosted the over over a million are still being hosted by kasan but a of hans. That you the taleban did you see today. Can i not the question was again. Can you can use about those who attribute what has happened in no small part because of the physical sanctuary alabama enjoyed right now the sanctuaries that people talk about what did pakistan do arkansan has done. Its bit if you look at the operations that We cut it out from swat right into areas. That many in the west failed. We will never move into clinton's them. We glimpse them we. Did everything possible border management. I remember was a big issue were. us bogus. on talks. border management was high on degen. He fenced the border. Despite opposition to our sources we tried to introduce biometric system over there to regulate the border and we clinched our areas. Sanctuaries are in fact if you are concerned about sanctuaries then you should look into his thong. Those sanctuaries bo pointed out. I pakistan to the guarding government. The heavier right in front of few are found soil is being used against pakistan and doing nothing apart. Are you worried that could continue in that in a sense afghanistan the taliban or elements of the taliban. Because it's hard to speak about this alabama's though as a singular entity that elements of the taliban. We'll see what they've accomplished. Not as an end but as a way station and some of them will not be satisfied unless they radicalized pakistan. Are you worried that afghanistan could become a sanctuary and a base of operations against pakistan. Depends how you deal with the hottest today. This is the critical moment. If the international community disengages if you do not deal with the immediate humanitarian crisis that is in the making if you let the of economy collapse and you continue with the freeze of han money nor being allowed to be used for off plans then you will be creating space for those elements that we collectively agreed to fight and defeat. We did our bit pakistan army and the people of pakistan It'll collectively resolved on a national action plan. And that is. I think a success story. That many have not talked about how we cleansed areas. How we amalgamated that. Oast wind fatter into mainstream. How schools functioning there how markets are there. How cricket is being played in areas. That were sort of. You could dream of stepping in. We've done a bit. The focus should be across the border. And that is where i think we have to batna and here pakistan. It's ready to partner on counterterrorism with with the united states and with the west to ensure that there are no sanctuaries now coming out taliban of the initial statement has been that we will not allow us soil to be used against augustan or any other country. I hope this stand done by that. And they live up to it outside. You talked about the humanitarian crisis that is unfolding in afghanistan. You've got large numbers of internally displaced people potential refugees already though. We're seeing signs that how would i put it. It does not appear the taliban two point. Oh seems to be fundamentally different than taliban one point zero. We see what they're doing on human rights on education on on women. How is the world supposed to deal with the humanitarian needs of afghantistan but at the same time place conditions or strings to put it bluntly on aid in order to encourage certain kinds of behavior being on terrorism or on human rights. How do you. How does pakistan planned to deal with that dilemma. To question is richard first of all a what we haven't upon his is a new vanity. I think the sooner the world reconciles to this new reality. The bitter it will be in taking the correct decisions right. It was amble time an opportunity to get rid of them. You know twenty years of investment. Three hundred thousand equipped and trained of han national security forces You saw are. How do we deal with them. Is the question We have limited choice. We are neighbors. You have the luxury of disengagement you the choice of leaving do we. We don't so we have to deal with that reality. And i think the sooner you realize in deal with that reality it'll be better now. How do we expect to positive attitude from on and we get it through. Intimidation can be could be kallstom that bestride. It didn't work so if it didn't work. Let's be innovative. Let's see if they can be incentivized to behave differently. Now the also have to realize that their role has changed. There are no longer fighters. We have declared war if they have their in a new position governors and they have to provide governance and they have to provide governance that they need support of the international community. Now the international community is saying we will judge you by certain standards. I hope They can listen to that. We as neighbors will do our best to persuade them. That it is in their interest. It is in a honest don's interest to adopt a inclusive approach of aniston has changed in the last twenty years. You cannot say women will not go to. They will go to school. They want to go to school. How can you stop them. You know and talk of stomach values. Then people will caught next door on girls going to school college university in pakistan and other muslim countries. So where does the sharia law. Where the sharia law prohibit. You know girls working going to school in leading normal life if that is what religion says that is what the world expects. You have to behave differently. So far the initial indications are. I can't speak for them. But i can hope and i pre- that they are smart enough to understand what is in their interest in my view. The interest is to open up to respect international opinion and international norms. and if they do that You know the invited easier for themselves. That is for sure. If they were to do it they would find it easier. I think the big question is are they likely to do it. Let me put three. Other topics gets just wait. It's too early. It's too early to make value judgment. Lift shum them away and lift not blindly trust. Let's let's Let's test them. And i think some form of you talked about creative ways conditional engagement constructive engagement. I think that is likely to be the policy going forward that they'll be asked to meet certain behavioral standards and then reactions will depend on it. Let me just quickly put three other just coming here. If you look at the the way now the immediate challenge when they took over evacuation how they behave were they positive in my view would not obstructive in letting for nationals leave of dan. Now that's different. Did they like in the past. You know the behavior was noticeably. Different when they said we will protect Embassies and You know Day should be dead. Know we should respect your their their their premises and violet. Those things that is somewhat different from the past gent one is One of the subject. I wanted to put out. There was us pakistan relations. I doubt you would disagree with me if i described it. As a history of intermittent and mutual disappointment there's a vessel gone from our respective sides. Where do you see now going forward. That can be changed. Where do you see any opportunities in. Us pakistani relations together. Where what five hundred fifty million people pakistan now has a population two-thirds that of the united states richard. What can we build up. There's a lot of built on. There are lots of values that we share. You know we had a democracy. So are you You believe in a market on me and you are supportive of private sector leading role so are we. You are interested in peace instability in the region. So we right so there. Lots of commonalities. The question is let's sit back and afflict when pakistan and the united states. we're never in history. Whenever they worked together has it worked are usually bondage in my view at has whenever we've turned away from each other you know we've not helped each other. You would make each two digit mistake by pushing pakistan three mistake to abandon stone in the ninety s it would be a mistake to To not have a continued working relationship with an ally has been with you for over seven decades. I want to be asking for. You're not asking for any assistance not asking for any dole out no singers. We are offering opportunities of investment if they make economic sense come and take advantage of that we can trade. There are investment opportunities here. Does pakistan pleased a location which can be advantageous to many copies and there is a shift focus. We're focusing on joe economics from geopolitics not. That's a huge shift in mindset if the us is not reading that then they're certainly missing something this significant shift and they should take advantage of his new landlocked of one m centralization the public's that have a lot to offer and pakistan can be the hub of that economic activity so take economic decisions and engaged with pakistan in mutual interest one issue that we don't see ida ion is china and us. Chinese relations have deteriorated in recent years. There's now bipartisan a large. Bipartisan mcdonagh. Fos who you notice that judy. I'm not. I'm not accusing you that i'm not suggesting that try. I would say Xi jinping has done just fine on his own. The question is it many other countries in asia. Australia just joined a new grouping with the uk and the us. India is participating with japan an australian the quad pakistan looks like in some ways the odd man out. Vietnam is obviously concerned about china. What is your perception of xi jinping china. Why do you seem to be more comfortable with chinese power less willing to criticize china than than others been supportive. They've been consistent when the world turned away. The never done the way they have over. The years built a relationship and they've been pretty ability trust the people in pakistan. Trust what they say. They've said they've never let us down to pick him if stood with us their neighbors and They have been supportive in all win. Win we ask the united states to play a constructive role in the interest of peace instability of the region. What's your answer. It's a bilateral matter. You know you sort it out amongst themselves pakistan we say we want to focus on on economic security of pakistan. We want to live in peace with our eastern neighbour. Can you play a role. Can you play a role of facilitator or mediator. You say sorry we got so what. Isn't that disappoint people in pakistan when we say that we have taken concrete steps in addressing important issues like money laundering like data financing and we only agreement with that. Would you know on on the gift of the direction that we should take. It talked to your leadership the big promises and when we get back we get a feedback from our people who are engaging you know on if few find the us being very hostile but a very difficult or don't even recognizing the steps taken. So what do you expect the people of pakistan to. How would they respond to that. I will resist the temptation to answer on behalf of the united states and one other issue on the table. You mentioned which was india competitive stan india. Can you relationship improve if the situation over kashmir does not change that. To what extent is that remain a not just a problem but an obstacle to any sort of improvement and indo-pakistan relations would be certainly want our relationship rules. You certainly want our relation to improve. Because as i said our agenda focus is on fixing our economy investing in people improving social indicators in the country. We can only do that if you have these on borders the question is that are outstanding issues. How do we resolve them. Can wish them away. We can't we need to resolve them. We need to address them. How address them to a dialogue to a meaningful lilo and india shying away from dialogue and the issue remains if the new with the atrocities that they are committed. And believe you me you know you are advocates of human rights. Look the human rights violations. That are taking baseball right now. In someone schmead. And we've just you've just shared with the international community a new dossier with evidence on how human rights are being trampled. We talk about human rights but then we have selective application for human rights. That is important if that can be addressed if the chin grievances in genuine schmead a can be taken into account And if there is a little over there yes This you don't the they want their stood restored and then prankster moody invited the leadership. That was an engagement in the them. Previously form coalition governments with them is what you've done on. The fifth of august is unacceptable across the board. We don't think that people who have been in coalition governments with delhi are saying this is unacceptable. So if you revisit that we're willing to sit and talk and normalize understanding that there are some difficult issues it they will take time but then let people breathe. Are you saying. That's a precondition to normalization or dialogue. Or you want that to be the subject of dialing. What i'm seeing is vitiated. The climate and they should create a conducive environment. Full ostracized. doc will resist the temptation to follow up. I want to get the members involved in the conversation. So i think we could take the first virtual the first physical and this is all on the record. It will take one virtual and we'll come to people in their own and just remind everybody including the minister. Yourselves this is on the record. Anything you say will be used against. So let's let's get a virtual question from digital and we will take our first virtual question from raji rasi hashmi good morning and assam aleichem Foreign minister my name is rosie. Hashmi i am attorney member with the council on foreign relations and i Cover a south asia in the office of international religious freedom at the state department so freedom for religious minorities in pakistan continues to be a challenge with the continued enforcement and abusive blasphemy loss. Persecution and denial of the rights of groups like mad muslims and growing number of force abductions marriages and conversions of hindu. Women and girls authorities imprison question. Yes You spoke earlier about selective application for human rights. So what is the government doing to protect religious minorities in reform laws that may restrict their practice. Thank you. We are sensitive to what you've said We recognize that. The christian minority the hindu minority and the sikhs and others pakistan have played vide- Constructive very positive for the are the are new laws in the country that discriminate against them you referred to the blasphemy law. If you look at the cases registed on that law ball of the cases are against muslims and not minorities gonna sample one of the members of the party of prime minister. Ron han when he when we found out that he was involved in post conversion we out of the party so we are sensitive to these rights and the constitution guarantees fundamental rights. And we are clear that we'd need to protect our minorities and an example of that is the guitar initiative that we took colorado that we opened up the seeks to come and a you know was one of their holiest traits sir. Here in the room for me to get people's names with the mask. And i apologize if i know you and i can't tell who it is. I apologize i. It's christian sued. I'm a member of. Cf are as well two quick questions one for just one. We'll do okay. Just one question. Prime minister khan said after the fall of the government have gone is done that. The country has been freed from the shackles of slavery. What does that mean. He was quoted out of context. What he was talking about addressing a seminar that was talking about a new curriculum that we had introduced. We had We had an english medium in order to medium setup and we realized that they were two strains two different kinds of education system in the country. And we need to. We need to unify that. So what he was saying was that slavery is up here to get away from the shackles of slavery. You have to making people mentally independent. It was in that context and it was misquoted and linked it to afghanistan. We're gonna ping pong a little bit between the virtual and the physical. I'm told reicher okay. In which case. We'll do one another virtual at this point. Take our next virtual question for manchester shops. Who a sham. The founder of muslim dot org in american muslim Before i was born in karachi like you. I'm concerned with Cashmere the crisis their human rights violations. But i wonder why you have not consistently condemned the human rights abuses of all muslim minorities. For example you have not said anything publicly about the mass detainment camps of the weaker muslims in china or the ongoing struggles of anti-muslim in too many non minority groups in pakistan. Doesn't all this make it harder to take to be taken seriously. Especially what asking the international community for help. Thank you we have not been Ignorant off developments that you have referred to but then there are different approaches with different Relationships ships the relationship that we have with china is such that we can take up issues and we do tape issues. Frank candid manner but it is done to diplomatic channels and not through media communication so just understand that so privately. You have raised concerns about the chinese treatment of the week with the chinese government. You have few big clearing a concern. You have sensitized them Yes we have spent high Masuda sultan syn bio investment. I'm an african american. And i've been working on afghan issues for the past twenty plus years you rightfully mentioned girls education and we talked about talibans Behavior and the need to come up to world standards. We hear that girls And primary school are beginning to Go to school. We hear that university students. Private university students are going to school women but that girls it In grade seven to twelve have not yet begun. Their studies at the taliban are promising. That this will happen. And we're reading about it and my question to you is a. Do you think that they will deliver on that. Promise and be We're hearing that teachers. Salaries are not being paid. And can you tell us if pakistan is any ideas about how to How to engage on that issue so that teachers salaries can get to christian ma'am to begin with. If the allying girls go to university and opened up primary schools that means conceptually accepted that women and girls have a right which occasion. That's that's a good step. That's a positive step. Why haven't sydney school opened. There could be logistically shoes. There could be issues of teachers. Availability of teachers. I'm just guessing. I am not fully aware of the gown. But i'm guessing why haven't teachers been paid. Obviously they're in a tight situation and that is what we are saying is unfreeze money. That is there's so that the can be teachers so that they can run their hospitals effectively so that they can manage the situation who knows what the coverage situation over there is hardly any people who are vaccinated over that. That's a concern. It's a concern for us because know sees no borders and we are concerned so what is saying is e patient and be persuasive in my view that might be a more effective of dealing with it. Incentivize tell them that if they're doing this they're doing it for their own. Good of honest. John would need them. Their economy would need them. They're they're they're governed structure would need the and And they've said what did they said. If i if i recall if said that gun servants who were working please come back to work. They've said we are granting announcing june. Amnesty there will be no revenge. Now if disembodied is saying we should collectively hold them to it and say not deliver on that. What what can we done. As a neighbor augustan undertook a diplomatic outreach. I went to different. Immediate neighbors of stan dodgers. Tom was bicker. Stan ministers on iran and said okay. We are neighbors. If things go wrong immediate of spillover will face. Should we have a coordinated approach to we have concerns common concerns just said yes we do and if go right do we benefit from the peace dividend. They said we do that. Okay if we do then let's have a coordinated approach and in that order dated approach. We will all suggest at as the prime minister suggested but he met the president we willing gauge with them. And we will tell them why. An inclusive gunman is in their interest of honest. Dan is country of different ethnic groups and getting them in is better than keeping them out. You know broadening. Their b.'s will give them the stability that they are looking for. If you're talking of a peaceful finest on a peaceful of understan- will only come about to national reconciliation and for that can solution involvement. Engagement is important so we will continue to do that. And all these issues that you're referring to are important. Do me as much as important to you. Carry get another Virtual question take our next virtual question from jerry miller. Good morning. i'm andrea ninety malaria. Senior fellow the council in foreign relations. Your excellency thank you very much for your statements. I think there were very interesting. My question is related to a statement that king from general baldwin was widely reported when he said that the headache donavan art which as you know has inflicted thousands of casualties and pakistani civilians and the of gami taliban are two faces. The same in my question is how do you reconcile statement with pakistan's support for the ghani donavan could. Could you clarify that question for me. I think he's basically as i stood. If i do disservice to i apologize. Correct me that one of your generals is basically said that the taliban within pakistan as well as elements of it in afghanistan are basically two sides of the same coin. And doesn't that give you pause. What did the differences and. How do we distinguish between the two. The taliban that are in afghanistan focused on amazon and they embed mine were fighting. A occupation force wanted to liberate their country thought upon that we call the pakistani gdp. A taliban who were attacking bergerson were carrying out terrorist attacks on pakistan so you have to distinguish between the two laundry. Does that to to follow up there. Maybe not my yes. Can you hear me. I'm sorry my off my follow that on my question was related to general bhadra statement which was an College meant that it is very hard to distinguish between the two Because there are so intricately connected the have the same speak. The same language have common. Tribes of their culture is similar but the question is their behavior who is doing what as i said. There's one element that is destabilizing pakistan That is being used by certain elements to Create insurgency in pakistan. They have been killing innocent people and the others who have their focus not in pakistan or want to play a role in horizontal. That's the difference but obviously We would not if they if they go into things that we feel are against the toss and at the start. Promoting milton is if they start radicalizing. The society pakistan is generally. Do not want. see talibanisation of stan. No we have the constitution. We have our own values. We have our own vision and our vision is the vision of founding father mohammed. Regina and that is what we want our country to be spent. What a way for the lakers. Introduce yourself reno mary. Senior fellow and director of afghanistan regional policy initiatives at new york university minister karachi noted that afghans were looking for hope and peace because of the failings of the previous government. Yet this all taller. All male government that a lax entirely lacks inclusivity in terms of ethnicity that has eighteenth sanctioned individuals hardly engenders hope and a among the african population. You see this in the exodus of the of han population. You see this internal displacement of the population. It's also an inherently unstable government. Yes so my question to you. As pakistan has seen as having had a hand in the composition of the government there is still a need for a political settlement. What will talk son in the region do in order to engender a government that is not going to lead civil war because that is not what we see right. Now thank you ma'am. That's your opinion that we've had a hand in putting government together. Believe you me believe you me. The very independent. They do not like to be told what to do and what not to. They have always working and they take their own decisions right and we have in the bossed. Meet certain suggestions. They paid no heed to that. So this impression that you're carrying that the government that is in office over. That placement is not correct to begin with if you follow what i had said earlier on. What are we suggesting. We are suggesting what you are asking. We don't the same page in a in fact if you if you dispassionately loot or pakistan is advocating pakistan is advocating motorists or the international community is asking. You know we we we. We are in fact the spokesman's off the international community. We sensitizing them. What the world. How the world is looking at things and how they have to respond a to international indian if they want acceptability and if they do not get acceptability You know how will they will sustain themselves. His country dot was being basically run to international funding to have the resources to maintain these security apparatus. That was in place to run the government running. Don't that money came from the west. The us contributed in large numbers. Europeans played their role. So why do they want to add to the difficulties. They have plenty of. Why would they want to add by ignoring that. We are suggesting we are advocating. What the international community's saying what we are saying is donor. Rub them the wrong way. Nudged them in the right action. That's the difference minister. We will like you be watching events closely and we hope that What i would describe as your cautious. Optimism is borne out by events. And the next time you come here when we welcome the opportunity to welcome you. We can look at the record. That has that has evolved. But i want to thank you for getting us back into the business of in-person or hybrid meetings. When thank you for spending an hour with us this morning wanna thank our members years virtually and also let people know at ten o'clock tomorrow morning we have the t. shook for those of you not fluent and galaxy that is the prime minister of ireland will be in conversation with us tomorrow. Talking about the situation in ireland northern ireland and europe across the board again does minutes to crush initial. can i just clues bunsen. You can guess her objectives are. The same approaches could be different objectives. Remain the same. Well i'm i hope that's the case. I am skeptical in a few areas but It's your choice that is My my experience from history. But i'll end by thanking you and wishing you You and your country walter. For more event audio subscribe on itunes or visit us at c. f. r. dot org.

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Let It Roll: ICMYI - Michael Bloomfield, Monterey Pop, Electric Flag, Al Kooper's SuperSession and Tragedy

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Let It Roll: ICMYI - Michael Bloomfield, Monterey Pop, Electric Flag, Al Kooper's SuperSession and Tragedy

"You've heard the music now. Here's the story from director frank marshall. Hbo's new documentary the bg's how can you mend broken heart. Chronicles the highs and lows of brothers berry maurice and robin gibb and the evolution of the prolific career as the bee gees through interviews and never before seen footage discover how they navigated the ever changing music industry and complex dynamics of family and fame. Watch it now on. Hbo and hbo. Max welcome to let it roll the story of how. Why rocket all happened with edward. Nate wilcox It's time to let it roll today. Features the conclusion of our discussion of edwards book. Michael bloomfield the rise and fall of american guitar hero. Bob dylan just listed. The book is one of his favorites and a web post. As always you can access. Are you to play loose and learn more about the episodes on our website. Let it roll. Podcast dot com this week edna. Talk about the fall of michael bloomfield. His dream band electric flag and white became a nightmare for him. The difficulties out. Cooper had in in their massively successful super session. Collaborations and bloomfield's drift away from the spotlight and final years. Pop those earbuds and enjoy welcome to let it roll podcast. This is nate. Wilcox joined again by edward for part of our conversation about his barfield. Michael bloomfield the rise and fall of an american guitar hero. At last week we talked about the rise. Today we're gonna talk about the fall although we will talk about bloomfield assembling his dream band and putting out his most popular and successful records. So it's not all decline but the narrative arc is loose downslide cut kind of a kind of a strange career are From the butterfield band on certainly. And what do you think i mean. What would you ascribe the strangeness. Well it was partially his ambivalence about being a star. I mean there was no point in history where it was easier to be exposed as a rockstar. As somebody that people should come out and see and you could tour and make a lot of money and He was really ambivalent about that later. When i interviewed him he had thought this through somewhat and had a pretty interesting insight. As far as i'm concerned he said. I'm not a beloved entertainer. A beloved entertainer is somebody who has to get out there and work they just. They aren't complete unless they're doing. Elton john is a beloved entertainer. Soapy tucker i mean she wants to leg and pretty soon she was back onstage in vegas. I couldn't do that. And i thought that was a really interesting approach to you know because i was still young kid and i thought why would anybody want to be a guitar star. You know looking eric clapton. But then of course. We see what happened eric clapton. And not not a lotta. That was pretty either. Yeah i mean. Clapton had his own baths with heroin. And we'll talk about bloomfield's heroin but first let's talk about his dream band. He had a vision for an american music band. That would play everything from stax soul to specter end to end the kansas city. Jump blues that that he loves so much. What's what how did you do that. What happened he quit he quits paul butterfield. And then how does he put together the electric flag. He had this idea for an american music fan. He had a lot of you. Know a lot of people that He knew could be honest. And so i think it was him grabbing ninety started Auditioning people and of course everybody wanted to work with this guy who was like the greatest guitar playing america so sure The though big difficulty was Getting buddy miles away from wilson. Pickett pick it was well. He always had a temper. And it wasn't helped by these white guys coming in and taking this great big teenage drummer from buddy an opportunity. He wanted to sing. He wanted to write material so he He went with them and at first things were pretty easy. And you know assembling a horn section harm weren't working much in those days unless they were jazz guys are studio guys so it was pretty easy to get that whole thing together and yet from your account. The horn section is where the biggest trouble with the electric flag started several people identify. Marcus doubleday the trumpet player as a junkie right and michael was pretty much okay with that because you know he's been around the blues scene and he'd seen what the reality for especially minority musicians was and he probably figured you know. Ray charles can be a junkie and and get away with it and probably some of these guys can to. He didn't look far enough into the future. Not that we should condemn for that. But he didn't really see what what could becoming and what could becoming came. Yeah i mean when you quote their road manager as saying that because albert grossman was essentially afraid of the horn section of electric flag. And that he wouldn't even stay in the same hotel with those cats. So you know and then multiple busts and sue they get busted and barry goldberg quits. The who had who had along with bloomfield and grab a nineties had put the band together you know quits and that sorta starts the personnel trained collapsing. But do you ascribe that solely to heroin or was whether other toxic elements in the mix that blue. Well for one thing that they they they never really toured. It was a it was a really big band and you know i. It's easy enough to tour trio But that also has its logistical problems. You get this gigantic band going from low paying dates low paying date. They didn't have a hit record The record company released grooving his easy Which was a perfectly fine tune but it didn't catch on. I mean it didn't chart at all It was. They had gotten off to a bad start. They had a disastrous first performance of newport. Michael was just incredible. I'm sorry monterey monterey pop festival And michael was was incredibly angry. That he felt that it was premature and they. They shouldn't go on but it was just a bad start and bad start. They had a bad career short. Yeah although one of the weird things about their monterey performances that the crowd reaction was overwhelmingly positive. I mean and that's one of the things that flipped bloomfield out. Yeah well he realized jimi hendrix would soon come to realize that all these people wanted was somebody on stage making noise. I don't think that much of that response was particularly educate. It was just yeah a band yet. May and there was a lot of that. Most as you know these. These kids are high and there. There's all these people playing for. Some of them are really good and some are not but it it didn't really matter out there in the sunshine in monterey with your friends smoking joint shirt and and bluefield just couldn't handle it but before we've we've been ahead of ourselves a tiny bit because i wanted to talk about the record. Label decision like bloomfield retained. Our grossman who had managed both bob dylan and the paul butterfield. Blues band and grocery intended to sign his artists columbia records butterfield was on electric. But you know dylan was on columbia. Janice joplin big brother would be on columbia. What you know. And you tell. A tale of how atlantic and colombia where the to record companies that were most interested and from jerry wexler quote and wexler of so many tales in the music world but in this account at least according to wexler it sounds like grossman manipulated bloomfield away from atlantic by accusing atlantic of ripping off their black artists. Right and i think that's That's a very credible story I think they probably would have been better on. Atlantic jerry would probably have been able to Get the situation under control although of course Atlantic was changing a great deal in those days. But this could have been wexler 's next great project But albert was such a such a control freak. I've been reading a lot about Just the whole scene in in Woodstock and bears fill in those days and and he was a bit of a megalomania not even a bit. Yeah i mean when you love your manager. Because he's willing to fistfight. And your defense. With alamo max. There's a trade off that he's going to be fist with other people or or lording it over people dominating and columbia you know I mean big brother and the holding company obviously was massively successful in columbia but it was the death knell for other san francisco bands including one of the few that bloomfield respected moby grape. And right at and the and the producer was a mismatch counts. Had i think he'd done peter-paul mary. Gordon lightfoot which in no way prepares you to try to deal with. Something had never been done which was combining a horns section with a really loud aggressive cutting edge rock and roll guitar player. Great yeah i mean yeah i don't really think any Record company would have been perfect because the band wasn't perfect. There was a lack of thinking things out. I believe with the electric flag It was they should have had another single on deck to go once group. His easy failed to monitor people. Put out a first single and then a second one which would be the one that would hit. Yeah the doors famously. Yeah pattern all throughout the sixties. I've been seeing. Is i've been cruising through billboard for the next edition of the next volume of the record. Roll history And and record neighbors were okay with that they it. Wasn't you make it on your first single or we drop you things easier than there. A lot less Lot fewer acts signed to. And you know one of the things you talk about. An is their decision to spend several weeks. Maybe on a couple of months recording the soundtrack for this Psychedelic movie that trip. How much do you feel like that. Got him off course. I think that's a valid valid question That they would just you know. Here's his new band. The just formed and that there is a specific agenda which was very song ribbon. You know because if you're gonna do all these different kinds of music that's your entering into a tradition that depends on song And to go to la just because you got offered a whole bunch of money and record what is essentially a bruce jam. I mean the record is almost unlistenable But there's a couple of instances in the movie where it sort of fits where it where it's the background to some sort of weird vision of a psychedelic. Experience was all about it. Worked okay in the film. And there's there's the one track On the album where. There's some decent getting together you know jamming is like in the sixties in the late sixties early seventies. It was a real trap. 'cause you know you go you go and hang out with some people in play but it gets turned into a record. So you're sort of spontaneous searching around for a groove becomes locked in wax and that was a really bad idea. There's so many jam records made you know And michael was on another one which was the grape jam. disc that was included with the moby grape second album. That album makes the trip. Sounds like just incredible because yeah the moby grape jam thing. A massive disaster bloomfield plays piano on it rather than i mean the idea of jerry miller and bloomfield plane or two of the best guitars and san francisco. That's intriguing Addow cooper oh boy. But when bloomfield plays piano. It's just kinda like what is the point of that. They're you know what's the point. Well just hanging out with friends you know somebody calls you up and goes hey come on down to our rehearsal space jam you know maybe we can come up with something you can have a guest shot on the new record. You know that's cool Recording it and making people buy it even if it is quote unquote free with the new album. that's a disaster. I mean you listen to some of this stuff jamming with edward jones. Put out during. What's right yeah. But they didn't was that for decades not came out no no not decades. No that that came out pretty much simultaneously with the exile on main street Well they record it during beggars banquet so it was much later. Are you sure. What's what's exile. Yeah about his. That is an odd choice. But i would assume that had to do with them leaving decca and deco emptying the vaults. That's not let's not at all not at all. It came out on rolling stones records. Wow while they have that is terrible. You also think of the third. All things must pass where george harrison friends jam pointlessly for two thoughts you know and mar a masterpiece double album and turn it to an expensive box. Set with just deadwood but bloomfield's next move after he. He gives up on the flag which she does even before their album comes out right he was. You know all of a sudden you realize what he'd done and he'd have to tour and touring you know. It was a difficult thing for the for the flag Just because there's so many of them but also michael had his his problem with insomnia on tour and he suddenly realized that was going to happen. And he's self medicating with heroin as well. Well he was was trying all kinds of things. I mean he he had a doctor. You know prescribing sleeping tablets. The barbiturate judy garland styles stuff. Right exactly what. He's very sophisticated department. Coppee back in those days. Yeah and that's brutal so he quits the electric flag and and basically sabotage any chance of the album being successful by doing that. And then he's pulled into another project by al cooper with whom he'd been so successful work with bob dylan on highway sixty one and this is a jam album the super session and yet it's the most successful commercial project bloomfield ever worked on and i would argue. It's actually a record. How did that happen well. I mean jam records. Although there atrocious they were selling so coober probably figured we can get the very best guy and the level of his jamming would be higher than you know crepe jam. He was right. Yeah he was able he. He and and broomfield had an actual musical connection. That was valuable to both of them. They inspired each other. And so what you hear on on michael side of the record is actually very good work because the upside of jamming is you're constantly challenged to come up with new ideas earns the next time. You're you're going through the course you play a little differently and and it's inspired god. If you're a great musician you can do that. And if you read. you know. Cooper's description in his autobiography of of his thinking behind the album. He admits to certain touches cynicism. Because he'd just been kicked out of his own dream band blood sweat and tears and had a big contract with colombian was trying to figure out what to do next but he's also was trying to figure out what to do next. Yes invested money but cooper also has this vision of. I mean 'cause nobody knows where rock and roll is going to go at this point i mean there's there's obviously a lot of directions going and cooper looks back to will watch the last really great american musical movement and its jazz and in jazz. It's like get the best players together. Cut a session. And so this idea that rock music might become an improvisational art form and might become an interpretive art form where you cover other people's songs rather than right in your own. Nobody knew that wasn't going to be the case in nineteen six a and so you know and to me it's fascinating. The part of the fascination of the super session album is this question of why did rock and roll not become jazz. Rock and jazz obviously got very intertwined in the seventies with miles davis and weather report john mclaughlin and the mall his new orchestra etcetera etcetera. And some pretty interesting things were done. But that's not where rock and roll went. That's not where music when it followed. The beatles dylan self contained songs. The rockford companies had an investment in that As far as writing your own songs that they they were always invested the publishing so they made money that way. as as far as Other sources of income Single was still possible. You know the the the poppet and soft rock was was really the biggest money maker but it was also possible that some of these some of these harder rock bands would would score a hit. Single guilt get up into the top. Ten and a lot of them did so that was where the record company wanted to Wanted to focus its energy. They weren't into people covering other people's music or or Nice instrumental music that that didn't seem to be what the audience wanted the. Fm rock stations were on the rise and they had their own view what a hit was and it was about original music. Yeah and and yet super session hits the perfect time and goes gold. But that's part of bloomfield's problem with it but we haven't even talked about the recording of the album when bloomfield rox out after one day. Yeah he he went back to his hotel. Couldn't sleep when had to hell with it jumped on a plane. Home cooper wakes up the next day and there's a note on uh michael's door at the hotel. Sorry you know. I went home and cooper's panicking because the record company has heard about this project and they put money into it although not much because it wasn't an expensive thing it was just jamming record it and that's it so he had to look around and find another guitar player pronto. Who then he was. Yeah he was lucky is in l. A. and stephen stills was there but right and stills in cooper i you know i go back and forth. I was talking to a friend of mine that who is a professional guitar player here in austin and he was saying you know the he thought bloomfield realized he couldn't follow up on the implications of what he had done. And that the sort of splashdown effect of stephen stills and al cooper jamming on things like it takes a lot to laugh. It takes a train to cry and Donovan susan the witch and other things added pop element that really put the album for the top. That's a good argument. I hadn't thought about that but the other thing was. I believe if michael insane another day that that cooper could have gotten more great work out of him you know maybe not on the second day but on the third day and and cooper i guess because the album is so successful goes back again to work with bloomfield and books some high profile shows at the fillmore with the different rhythm section. But you know to be recorded for a double album double live album. The live adventures bloomfield a cooper and once again bloomfield shows up and his brilliant for half the scheduled time and that he would do. Because there's a quick drive into the city you know. It's like thirty minutes including time to park so he was a lot more amenable to that. I thought it was east and he was. He was awake for five days straight or something. That's what they say on the record. Anyway that he collapsed took was hospitalized because he just couldn't sleep on the road that would make sense. That would make sense. I it makes sense. He would fly to new york to recreate a project he wasn't really into but there's probably money coming in from i remember was it cooper. Bloop said he walked into the record store and just up coast to copy. Yeah a super session flying across the counters and he went and that response always for career like out cooper. He's not ashamed to admit that that's what he was a talented man but also had assigned the bottom line. I mean i. It's interesting that he realized that there were going to be repercussions of that album being more successful than i mean wildly successful beyond their while streams right. That wasn't the idea. The idea was just to you. Know help him. And michael wood their problems with columbia. Yeah i think. I think also an element of how do i get something out of bloomfield. I mean i feel like cooper really felt that that there was a risk of bloomfield's talents going to waste and and what's the easiest thing we can most low key easiest thing we can get him into and and craig good work and you know. I think the live adventures is quite enjoyable. The rhythm section's pretty weak. But you know the version of the fifty ninth street bridge song. Which paul simon added background vocals to in the studio later. That's pretty powerful stuff. And i feel like deep. Purple was listening closely to this combination of loud screaming lead guitar and heavy organ and that the sound it wasn't just a one offer a dead end. I mean this is something that had a huge influence on rock and roll. People were paying attention but once again flakes. After one day and cooper again scores he gets off and bishop but he also gets carlos santana to play live and the santana portions album perfect. It's a pretty good record for jam record i. It's been so long. I may not have made it through both l. Both records on that set because my interest was very definitely elsewhere back. Then yeah. I have heard the edits that Cooper did on the box set and you know they're okay for jamming but is another time and place to comment on that and purple at all. Well semi was a missed missed out there. Although again i can certainly see not being in deep purple date. They start a whole strange strand of rock and roll Prog rock and and leads into the whole elves in which is a school that it's pretty silly but a lot of kids have had a lot of fun with anyway back to bloomfield cooper. This album get norman rockwell to paint their portrait on the cover so there's bloomfield sits down for that and i mean that's the top starship right there. Oh yeah but everybody was doing it. So why not. Yeah it's funny. That bloomfield is so tortured by this stuff and yet he keeps going back for bites from the goal. You know the poisoned apple. Or whatever i know i mean he doesn't. He hasn't come into a routine up there in his house in mill valley and and he probably felt that he really well he did money to columbia and i know you probably still being managed by grossman so there was a lot of pressure. Oh well you know i. I should really do this all. They're asking you to do your car. I don't have to write songs. I don't have to deal with other people. Except for cooper who i already know. So why not. Yeah it was easy enough and at an it produced the most popular successful work of his career. And yet it becomes this albatross around his neck in you. Tell the story in the book. Ten years later he's touring italy and trying to do kind of a wry cooter thing that's low key blues and doing the music he really loves and yet you know he goes all the way to italy and fans are still screaming for albert shuffling stuff off the super session so ogden for the rest of his life. Well yeah i mean and he never really took responsibility for having created this monster and he never came up with an acceptable replacement for even more importantly so he. You know he hit. He'd made this thing and it was gonna follow him around forever unless he replaced it with something else which he did. Yeah and he nick. Gravity's do a pair of albums for columbia eighties. Might labors and a live album live at. The fillmore was bloomfield. That's got some great work. I mean blues on the west side. That's just got an incredible guitar solo and and my labors if you like revenue dis And he's a good songwriter. One of my favorite people in this whole story is a a really deeply soho man. And he's moral and he's got just integrity. The was who is a gifted songwriter. Great songs for tennis. Stop on many others and the paul butterfield. Blues songs blue ban signature song born in chicago. I for that for grabbing eighties greg composition. But be that as made those albums were pretty clearly contract fillers from bloomfield's perspective and a way to get out of the rockstar machinery. And there was that other one. It's not killing me which is not good. That's just awful but you know. He owed them albums so he gave them albums. And what are they gonna do. I mean here's here's a piece of product that you can put the name of michael bloomfield on and somebody's going to buy it 'cause they're all hoping that you know the life changing guitar. Solo is going to be on this record. it's not but Hey columbia's fault yeah. And and and i really wonder if there wasn't element of bloomfield put in his career to sleep with that album. Really didn't want to be a rockstar anymore. So yeah i think so. Time has the came out. He he was he was palling into the you know hanging out at home mode pretty heavily. Yeah and your account of his lifestyle in mill valley it's not as dire as some rockstar falls. I mean partly because of his income from his record royalties but also because of his trust fund. Which every few months. He will get a fairly sizable check from his family. Family trust allowed him to live. You know basically middle class lifestyle of reading novels all day watching. Tv is guitar in the evening. If he wanted to and he you his ex wife was living with him and he had friends living with them so he had kind of sort of the king of court and it doesn't sound that bad. There's this guy named dan mccloskey i. I knew He was a friend of john ward And he was. You know this this kind of never. She very earnest a guy who was A stereo equipment salesman. He had to see michael one time and they got the talk. He's you know. I've got any tarp. Dan i wish i could learn how to play guitar in the way you do. Just because it seems to be more. Like what i wanna do. I'm a big lou's fag. Lots of records at home and and michelson. Well you know. Come on up to the house. I mean you live here in oakland. Come on over the middle. Golly can we can just like jamming the living room. Dan he goes well. I mean come on over so he did and size plan rhythm he says. Go ahead play lead dan. He's like. Oh i don't do it come on so did and he was terrible and michael then says okay you play really. Let me show you something. And he did and he sort of took the ideas that dante had played and turn them into michael bloomfield music. He says now it's your turn and but looking at his fingers and he went. Yeah okay. I see so. He executed something. There was a lot closer to it. Michael had done and then it just got fluid and at the end mike led to do something else or so these. I'm going to throw you out. I want you to come back a lot of fun. And then he was like. Wow just imagine that this guy is this major rockstar enjoyed playing with me so he did come back a couple more times and eventually he did a long interview with him on the radio and that was kinda guy michael was i. I ran into him. I did was. I ran into him at a record store Village music the world's greatest record store which was in downtown valley. We both reached for the same album. Same time the barbara. Lynn album on atco. And i said i've been looking that for a long time and blue a our so of i. You gotta give this to me. 'cause i'm mike you're not no argument i thought i hey i saw so it was like okay but and i yelled go over to john goddard. The owner said john. The next one of these that comes in its mind. Set it aside laughing his head off. Michael is there a lot and so he said okay. Hey i worked for cream magazine. i'd like to do an interview with you. They said sure. Come on up to the house. That was all the formalities. I need there's no manager involved or there was a manager that quite toby byron but he wasn't he wasn't a kind of Albert grossman michael didn't feel he had two passes by you you to do an interview with me. Sure come so i did. We had a wonderful afternoon and captured some really really. Poignant statement from him. I wanna read this. I flagged it because you know reading about his life and how you know comparing it with somebody like iggy pop or wayne kramer who were heroin. Rock and roll casualties around the same time and just living in abject squalor and misery bloomfield setup doesn't sound so bad but then you read the statement he gave you and he says I would like to put out a record that had the sounds on it though. Sounds in the air and i will. Oh if i could only do just one. That would make me. As proud as the beatles probably were with sergeant pepper or jimi hendrix was with access or i was with the first butterfield album and it fades away. And you say he thought. I didn't hear the pain in his voice that i missed his brushing tears from his eyes he was wrong. And that's just heartbreaking. That was you know it was like. I know i can do this but i can't. There's no advice on earth that you could give this man that would make him perk up ago. Oh great idea. Now he was. He was really locked into the demons. And at that point. I didn't see a way out and as it turned out there would be a way out. He made some more good records and he made one particularly good one. If you love these blues play as you please. Which was an instructional. He did for guitar player magazine that as an album. I've i've enjoyed you know for thirty years because my big brother was as subscriber to guitar player magazine and we had the cassette around the house. And there's something just really sweet and genuine about it and you really. What comes through is his love for american music and his left for about american music right. Which is what he did with. Danny yeah and and to me. It's just so heartbreaking at a person like this with these gifts who wants to share them in an unassuming way he did not want to get rich and famous from this. He did not want not able performer. Yeah but that there was no channel. I think i think having lived longer that there would have been channels for for that kind of expression especially since he was basically clean towards the end of his life with one hand. Tragic exception there at the end. We don't know what happened that night. We don't even know where it happened. Yeah his body was found in his mercury under a freeway overpass. Yeah any was full of meth and cocaine which were not his drugs of choice and somebody with a bad problem not sleeping is not going to Go after those drugs. I'm sorry. Yeah those those are not drugs. He needed he needed downers because he was already i. I read a quote from a think goes mark nathan. Said you know michael's brain was on fire. And that's what made it so great. But he couldn't what interviewing him it was like. You know just trying to keep up with them because ideas were constantly coming into his head and they weren't even musical ideas. I gotta help me. If i tried to play guitar with him. Yeah and so you really feel for somebody who's got this talent and this mind that he just can't capture and channel and you know spends. It wasn't a complete burnout though. I mean he did produce a lot of records and he did tour and perform throughout the seventy s but it was very low key with any played a lot in the bay area. I mean there's one album is never it wasn't reference for the box set and it is just one of his best live at the old waldorf which was a a club that I guess by the time. Michael played and recorded this was under the thumb. Bill graham But it was. It was a really nice little clubbing. And this was a document of what you could see the new orleans fashioned berkeley or or the lion. Share up in san anselmo you know when michael bloomfield and friends had a gig And it is high level basic. Lose really wonderful record and and that's was fairly lateness career. I wonder why that was never issued. I don't know. I think because. His light period discography. There's just so much of it and it's a mess you know Rights like trying to retry. It also could be the toby byron on that record and He out cooper to put it mildly. They don't get along. Yeah and that's and that's too bad but it does seem pretty clear that bloomfield still had it from at least the accounts of his last performance with bob dylan which you tell the story of bob dylan and maria dr climbing and bloomfield's window right. Yeah to get him out to To play at dylan show at that theater off. The can't remember the name of the theater on market street there but graham also had that profile and you know the next night bloomfield shows up at the theater in his slippers right but with this guy our yeah and plays a great set but doing had to introduce him audience. 'cause that's how bad the gotten nobody. There knew who this weird looking guy with all the hair was but once they heard him play they realized. Oh yeah yeah and ready to do it and one incident. You don't talk about. But but according to another interview. I read recently with bloomfield. Donut actually approached him about playing on The blood on the tracks album and bloomfield just couldn't connect with him. He felt like dylan was too much of a rockstar and there was too much of a wall and he didn't understand the new music any more than he had understood the stuff on highway. Sixty one so you know. Probably afraid of being asked to be in dylan's tour ban because he didn't have one at that point yup and and so you know it's another you know what if but it's when you when you said that your response to bloomfield saying i wanna produce another great album but i can't was my first thought was what if somebody great you know one of his peers or somebody even slightly better than him like dylan or cooper clapton. It's showed up and said hey man. I really need you on this. But as it turns out dylan try and it just couldn't come together. And so i mean i think you know summing up though it's easy for us who never made any great music too tight about bloomfield's miss opportunities or bemoaned albacete did make. I think the more important thing is to treasure what he did give us which is a pretty respectable body of work and the other artists that he inspired with. That work are endless. I mean the guy basically rock guitar. Yeah yeah out of blues but he also like adding other metals to an ally to make the finished product stronger he. He gave it something that people could carry on without being. You know like these endless british blues bands were happening in the early seventies. You know that was just imitation. 'field gave electric guitars a gift of a new way of approaching music and Poaching rock guitar and taking it out and lose but they very very important. Yeah and smart one do that. Yeah and without bloomfield. Now eric clapton. No peter green dwayne allman etc etc etc. You know maybe dwayne but none of the well. We could argue that endlessly but Anyway it's been fun talking about michael bloomfield with the head and look forward to talking about the second volume of history of rock and roll and kost. that's episode. Thanks for listening next week at will return to the prehistory of rock and roll with a special episode on music in the nineteen twenties and thirties. 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Rock Mag '95 - Ep448

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Rock Mag '95 - Ep448

"The desolate with chris. Zach in aired camaro all right here. We are finally back once again. This is the decibel geek. Podcast you guys know me your old buddy. Aaron camaro joined his always by your other best rock and roll pal. Kristen zac what's going on brother. How you doing good. Glad to be back doing this theme again. Everybody seems to like it when we do these things i think. The last time we did one was what nineteen eighty-four or we didn't do it in one thousand nine hundred four but it was about a eighty-four something though if we had young kids doing the first podcast ever in nineteen eighty-four. We've been around a long time. Not that long seems like it some days. Well yeah instead of doing one thousand nine hundred four. Chris gonna pick out a good magazine this time from his collection. I think we're gonna come into the future a little bit but we'll get to all that in just a minute. You know us here. The will geek podcast. We love love our listeners. 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I mean we just come off a to back to back and great interviews with carmen apiece and vinnie apathy. And you know we think things are going great you know hitting the highest heights in our reviews of awesome all five stars all the time we love it and then one day. I go to look at where we're at the rankings. Which i look. Maybe i don't know when it crosses my mind. I wonder how we're doing so every couple of weeks but the time before is man we're up to number eight we're really creeping up there. We're doing something all time baby. And then the next time it's like we're not even listed what the hell happened. And i still don't know what happened. I don't either. I don't know. I don i've given up trying to figure it out. Yeah but we're climbing we're climbing again. We're up to number forty five so if you guys want to help us out. 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It was like a family reunion or the first day of school. It was very different. Nice to be around. So many people a little weird at the same time but Had a blast ty tyson leslie had over one hundred musicians participate and he'll do it again for us in august. Nice in case you don't know what rare hair is. Rare hairs were tasting. Leslie will put together these shows and he will find all kinds of different musicians and partner them up with each other and they will do awesome rock songs. So when you're talking about and pod weekend while there's a lot of really cool rockers in town and you just never know who you're going to see up on the stage odds are it's going to be some rock and pied guests up there doing some very special one of a kind once in a lifetime performances you can be there to witness it and if that awesome enough which it is but not for rock and pod weekend. There's more the big debut of resist and bite resistant bites a band. We've had him on the show before we had a good time talking to them. Because it's tommy skiavo's ban. That's right the old guitar player from tesla. He's got a new band. It's called resistant bite. They're freaking awesome and they're going to be bust all their new tunes for us. Basically the debut of the ban live that night friday night. That would be a great weekend party in itself but no there's more because when that's over you can go back to your hotel room which hopefully you're smart you went to rock and pop dot com. Got yourself a hotel room in with the rest of us. There's a rock block of hotel rooms where we're all staying together. You want to be a part of that party. You get yourself a hotel room. It's going to be great. You go back a nice brest. Wake up in the morning. Now it's time for the main event rock and pied twenty twenty one. We've got so many awesome guests. Come in we're going to have vendors. They're going to have albums. Cds t shirts posters all kinds of cool stuff and it's all geared towards rockers. yet this is nashville tennessee. But you're not gonna find any country stuff at rockin pods so if you've got something missing from your collection and you can't find it anywhere pretty good chance you're probably gonna find it and some other things that you didn't even know about that. You just got to have it. It's going to be a rock and pied plus the guests man. Tell him who's coming. Oh god there's so many people coming we've got like let me touch on some of the some of the main ones to start off with You know we're doing rock mag and that's an established for the rock magazines. Bill if you grew up with mtv. You'll recognize these names. Mark goodman one of the original vj's req- rachman who head bangers ball matt penfield hosted hundred and twenty minutes and did so many other things All three of them are gonna come. They're going to meet fans they're gonna do a panel about their timing. Mtv also our good buddy. Ron keel is going to be there performing the night before and also being at the expo. Billy sheehan for mr big david lee roth band Of course resistant bite. We'll have a table there. Don jamieson from that metal. Show greg. Gas courtney cronin dole. Who's our good friend Roxie blue is gonna be there and they're going to perform acoustically Ace von johnson from la guns and faster pussycat pamela debar. Who wrote i'm with the band. You know very famous groupie. And she's a podcast as well We'll have three members of except christopher philip and martin the bass player the the talisman which includes ryan jeremy information frailties band. That just got announced opening rows cooper. They're going to perform acoustically Also jason bieler from saigon kick is coming back paul taylor from winger. I had Announced anthony quarter before but now found out that the entire band tour is going to be. They're also sweet. I'm excited to see them. And then there's more walter egan's coming back this year. He was at the first rock and pod. Just tons of people. And i've got a few more guests up my sleeve that i'm going to announce soon and Yeah it's gonna be a lot of people are in. It should be a whole lot of fun. That's right so there you have all the rock and also we're going to supply the pod because we've got podcasters that love rock music from all over the entire country coming to nashville at weekend beyond site. You can watch your favorite podcast interview. One of your favorite rock stars. You can stand there and watch it happen. No one says he can't. You can do it. You can talk to favorite podcasters. Buy him a beer. Hang out with them. Tell them how much she loved the show you know. Spend time with the people that spend time in your ears every single week. Because they're going to be there. Live and in person including aachen pod. Twenty twenty one. That's right including the decibel geek podcasts. And we're counting on seeing a lot of our friends there because we are here to party with you. Yeah we're going to be putting in the work that we can to make sure everybody's having an awesome time but don't mistake we are here to party and that's what we're going to do as well so rock and pop dot com. That's where it's all at. That's where you get your hotel room and find out about who's all going to be there. It's going to be awesome. I mean. Chris has already announced so many awesome people going to be there. I know just like every other year right up to the last minute. He's got tricks up his sleeve. This guy up to the last minute. But we'll see i mean but you'd never know who's gonna show up. I mean th th. There's always people that there's people that aren't re- actually guests. That are famous. That i just end up walking in so you never know because when you got all these awesome rock stars they're awesome. Rock stars. live here nashville. And they might say. Oh my old friend. Billy sheehan is going to be at this thing. I'm going to come out and go say hi to him. You know it's like that one year we're standing around there's raven they weren't announced to be there. They were playing a show that night and so they just showed up to come say hi to everybody and hang on a good time so i mean that's perfect example right there. You just don't know who's going to be there. Even the people that aren't on the guest list are worth meeting. And plus you get to hang out with all kinds of rock-n-rollers everybody's there for the same reason to celebrate rock music and to have a good time and i promise. I promise you that you will have a good time at rockin pie this year so join us for the party. The summer rock and pod dot com. That's all your information. You ready to pick your magazine. Yeah let's do it. What do you got. What are we doing we are going to do. The may nineteen ninety. Five is of metal edge magazine man. I loved metal edge magazine. When i was a kid man. There was a good period in my life. Where i always made sure i had the money one way or another no matter what i had to do to get the new metal edge magazine because i mean back then the internet snidey five. I mean that stuff really wasn't happening yet you know so it wasn't like you could just go online and see you know the latest concert photos or you know. Hear the latest stories in the world of rock. You know you had to wait until a magazine came out. So you could get all your information about the latest happenings. There was no podcasts. Not nineteen ninety five. Not that i'm aware of anyway And so you know. Metal edge was probably my favorite one because it was quick and it seemed like they were on the case and they had all the information about all the bands. I mean even in ninety five when things are starting to change you know. Music is different. I mean even you look at the cover this got aerosmith bon jovi skid row megadeath. Kicks is even on here. Queen's reich extreme but you also got eddie vedder on here and you also got soundgarden garden so interesting time for rock magazines and rock music in general because things are kind of on the change a little bit you go. Three killer centerfolds aerosmith van halen and s t p. Yeah i this is an interesting want to go over because for me personally may of ninety five. That was the month that i graduated high school. So it's a kind of interesting to think back on that time in what was popular at the time and also what wasn't popular but like this is metal. Alleged did take a bit of a downturn after this because they they started going you know trying to keep up with the joneses. Where in this magazine you've got kick still getting you know coverage and you've got you know some you've got some of our favorites tesla's still getting coverage in here. Jackal is also. But they didn't move away from a lot of these bands pretty shortly after the after around this time. Yeah i do. Remember the point when the rock magazines weren't quite as fun as they used to be. Yeah it's interesting hodgepodge in this issue too because you've got the garage and you've got metal and you've got some of the skid row aerosmith bon jovi that you know were the mainstays that made it through. But it's the trickster and ugly kid. Joe get mentioned on the cover of this thing so it's an interesting mix of bands. This should be a fun one to go through. I'm almost ninety. Nine percent certain that i had this magazine because i woulda been outta high school for a year means. I was working at means. I had money. That means i was buying metal edge. I think still had a subscription around this time. So i'm sure i had it to some of the pictures. Look very familiar to me. Who's got money for milk. I need the new metal edge magazine. We're adults now. All right all right i guess. Let's flip this thing open since we already got the teaser. What's going on what we're going to see. And what's the first thing we got here. It's a single page pinup of slash can tell. That picture was taken by nils lows. Our yeah yeah. He took a lot the he took a lot of shots on the roof of his photography. Studio and i can tell that throw it was taken. Okay right on c. Nine thousand nine hundred five was slash on drugs. Probably still at that point. Looks like it definitely looks like it. Look at the next page. Oh the complete total opposite that. It's bon jovi in church yeah. I don't know what this picture. That's the he John after he cut his hair and he's wearing like a some kind of vest and blue jeans he's like i need something pretty in the background. I love the. I actually really enjoy. Bon jovi's output musically at this point but boy. It was not a good look for him. Well he was trying to kind of distance himself from everything that had come before. you know. Bon jovi they were the kings of the pinups. You know specially jon bon jovi because the girls loved him so much because he had such sappy ballads and things like that that you know. The chicks were huge into bon jovi. But you know it was the big giant hair and all that you know he. They were the epitome of the eighties. Really but by ninety five you know. Some of these bands had to kind of change their style in order to keep up with the new thing coming on even though you know grunge in bon jovi are vote. Polar opposite is get but you know they are trying to be relevant. I guess what's more what makes you stand out and be more relevant nineteen ninety-five then cutting off your long hair. Yeah metallica was soon to follow. Look we're hip and cool. Well let's go to the next page. Here's a couple of dudes at won't cut their hair. And they're looking pretty damn cool in this photo talking about the one and only gene simmons and paul stanley look gene simmons wearing a shirt of his favorite rock artist himself. Right around the time they were making carnival. Soul sure gladwin kiss. Started looking cool again. You know longtime really easy to be the kiss fan because like all my like the same old story all your friends start getting into megadeath and pan tara and slayer and stuff like that and so the way kiss was looking crazy nights era. You know doesn't really stand up to stuff like that but in ninety five and kiss looking pretty awesome. They got the leather jackets. You know they're not all pastels and neon colors and you know these looking like a metal band here. I like that. They were changing with the times too But thankfully they they did it the right way. Yeah how awful. With paul stanley and gene simmons would have cut their hair in ninety five. That would have been strange. Really strange kiss never cut their hair. Let it be written. Why don't we go to page eight. Where they have a Skid row in vancouver article about them recording subhuman race and. This is a polarizing record for a lot of skid. Row fans i I know some people love it and some people hate it. I'm not. I'm kind of inbetween. I don't really love it much But i'm not i'm overall. I'm not a big fan of this album. what about you. it's not my favorite skid row album by no means. But i mean what you got three to choose from from the original lineup but when it came out i didn't feel any differently about it. You know it seemed like it was a progression from the first the debut album the self titled to a little bit heavier with slave to the grind and then i thought this one took it even heavier but still did some of the same stuff like they did on slave to the grind. Where if they did have a song that was kind of balaji. It was still pretty deep in heavy in. Its own way. you know. it's not like you know. I remember you. You know the in on slave to the grind. The ballots became deeper. You know what i mean. Yeah and i think they kinda followed that with some human race. I loved subhuman race when it came out and not as much as the first two specially not as much slave to the grind which to me is one of the all time greatest albums of all time so human race doesn't really stand up to that you know still a great album packed full of great songs. One thing i didn't like about those i was. I remember when they were making it. And they had mentioned that. Bob rock was gonna come in and produce and i was excited. Because of everything he'd done with you know motley crue and metallica but didn't really like his production work on this record. I don't think it sounds as it certainly doesn't sound anywhere near as good to me. Production-wise as what michael did with With the first records. But you got to remember. Michael wagner told us the same thing around this time everybody i mean everybody even is he said i want to sound more like soundgarden you know. And i think that's kind of production you get on skid row's subhuman race where i don't know it lacks the punch that slave to the grind head for sure but the songs were good. I dunno skirrow was one of those bands. It's too bad. They couldn't survived it. They were one of the bands that i thought for sure would because they had kind of a street cred too on where you know somebody that was independent tara or megadeath or slayer would say fuck motley crew. Fuck kiss fought. Poison i role. They're pretty cool. I i i like skid row. You know so. They always had that kind of they were still edgy enough and not over the top glam where they were still acceptable because they were still heavy role was a damn heavy band especially you listen to subhuman race. Some of the guitar work on there is right creep up to thrash metal. Almost yeah i mean they would kind of get a pass from a lot of people from being part of that era but but yeah in a in a thing where you credibility wise i think they got more of a pass especially because of how they did slave to the grind where they went heavier with it but You know it's an interesting period of time and everything seems all cool in the gang and this article but As we all know the ban was falling apart at this point at least with with Sebastian bach so even if skirrow would've survived the great purge of the nineties. The band itself won't to survived. So i mean i guess you get what you get either way but there's a lot of it's a. It's a very extensive article in a lot of good pictures of the band working on the record. So it's it's worth looking at And then i noticed you go to page t and You've got to add for scott. Call your the drummer for brother cane for ad for pearl drums. that's i. br. I loved brother came back in this time. Me too. they were so good. And they were from birmingham alabama. I believe they were kind of southeastern ban. Of course damon. Johnson's been on the show before. But this was around. This was about a year after. I saw them open for kiss at the gibson guitars show and brother. Cain was banned. You know even at this time. I mean they were getting airplay. They had hit songs. Rock was still. You know 'cause there was a big divide. You know there really was. There is the people that were loyal to what had come before you know everything that led up to this point and then there was the the people at jumped off of that stuff and are like no. I don't like those bands no more now. I like this. You know and i was always one that stuck with what i liked. You know. it didn't matter to me if it was popular or people thought it was cool or whatever but there was a lot of bands that was resistant to that. Were new and coming out. But i mean there was no denying soundgarden. There is no denying alison chains. And when i hear brother cane on the radio okay. I like this. You know there. You can't hate the new stuff. That's why. I can never understand people like oh i liked that yesterday but i don't like it anymore but now i like this and if you don't like this then you're you know you're stuck in the eighties. I used to hear that shit. All the time aaron. You're stuck in the eighties i liked. I like you know like brother cane some of these new bands and brother. Cain was kind of in between you know they were. They were kind of a throwback to the seventies seventy southern rock sounding. Yeah so it wasn't lake brother. Cain was grunge rock or anything at all. They were something way different. And maybe that's why they didn't last maybe as long as they should've because they were so different that it wasn't something that you could say. Oh this is trending you know. This is what's cool. This is because they. They were as good as they were and like. I said they had some hit singles that we're getting played on the radio. That's where i. I heard them and they were different. You know you couldn't lump them in with anything. So i know maybe that's why they kind of got forgotten a little bit. We'll go to page fourteen. The date and fifteen is like a alive and kickin section. And this was you know. This was a cool little feature in metal edge especially in the eighties because it was like all these great glam out bands and everything looked pretty uniform. This does not look uniform. This shows how much of a transitional time it was when you look. Who's in this. Yeah he got eddie vedder. Jon bon jovi steven tyler. There's my man gilby clarke and some guy named slash aerosmith dating change at all. They look just the same as they ever did. Oh yeah then you got weiland from sewn double pilots and day mustang for megadeath and rob zombie and won't janey lane for more and and it's tough in nineteen ninety-five in a magazine. Nice now you know. You're reading metal edge. Jerry miller always treated those those guys really good at. They were hard working. Mother truckers out. There you know trying to make it happen. They were scratching and clawing at something trying to make it big. And you gotta believe that. Jerry miller you know maybe reluctantly you know said okay. Well we gotta have stone temple. Pilots got pearl jam because the shit so popular. You know but i still love bands like guns and roses and tough and warrant. You know so they got a place here too but if you look at this i mean you think ninety five. That's so weird stone. Tell pilots megadeath white zombie warrant and tough like an identity crisis magazine a little something for everybody. I guess that's wild here. Candlebox pride and glory pandera jackal and testament. and zack. wild with no facial hair. that's going back a ways. Yeah yeah wow yeah. He's so young. Wow it's a it's an interesting mix of people and then of course. The next page is a Advertisement for peavey electronics. Eddie van halen standing on top of his fifty one. Fifty amplifier and Strange time for eddie. Van halen looks wise. He chopped all his hair off around this man. That's you know and you look back on that. That was kind of a big deal was. We're people getting their haircut up to this point. Who was like. I'll never cut my hair. You know it was like a badge of honor. I'm a you can look at a person and tell their rock and roller because they have long hair. Then all of a sudden you know you look at van halen right here. I mean he's got its it's short you know he's got really short hair and it's like i remember because i was still pretty young. You know figure eighteen years old. Yeah nineteen maybe yeah may yeah would have been turning nineteen so to me. Having long hair was still a badge of honor. You know you you kinda head have long hair because you wanted to be known as a rocker. It's like wait a minute. You know all these people that you looked up to thought you know. These guys are rock and rollers mom and dad and they'd never cut their hair. And i wanna hearing like this guy and all that and then all of a sudden wait a minute. All my heroes. That i thought were steadfast. Rockers are now all of a sudden all cut their hair off what the hell is happening. A weird eddie went from looking like the ultimate guitar hero to looking like the guy that changed the carburetor on my car. Yeah like a mechanic in this picture. Strange times man ninety five while and then the next pages of a very long article interview with david ellison from megadeath When they were touring touring behind euthanasia. Ninety five if i'm correct there's some long-haired rockers for you yeah. They kept their look for the most although they changed a little bit around the risk record but not too much. Yeah a little advertisement here for elliot. Guns vicious circle. Yeah i was wondering what you're gonna think of that. That's pretty cool man. I mean i was excited for it. I don't know how many other people in ninety five or really excited for new. La guns album but if they weren't they missed out because the killer album says crime in la just went up gotta love it polly door. Put that album out. I know who put that record out. Whoever would ninety five. That's a real bummer. Because you know people were big fans of guns in the late eighties. And now today they're pretty damn popular again. But in the ninety s i mean. Nobody was buying these albums. Especially knowing that you know this was still. This was filling tracy on this so yeah there is a lot of delusion of la guns. Because what tracy had done was getting new singers and you know trying out different things especially at weird ass american hardcore album and trying to be paying tara and things like that but if you're a fan of the old school elliott guns you ought to check out this one and man in the moon is another really good one. There is a handful of albums in the nineties. That elliott guns came with that. Were really really good. These see on this. On this advertisements entering says produced and engineered by jim wirt and but it says crystal is the song produced and recorded by michael james jackson. Oh wow from kiss fame. that's weird. I wonder why he only produced the one song on the album. I don't know it's interesting. And then it says for more information right hollywood. Vampires has sunset boulevard address and then it says or dial up america online Yeah america online. Yeah ninety five. It's just all starting to happen the very beginning of the internet right there well. Here's a nice pitcher queen's reich look at jeff tate. He looks so clean and proper with his nice haircut. What's wrong with these guys. You looks like he's ready to go to a stock traders meeting. Yeah man. I hated that that bothered the shit out of me when i was that age. And you know i guess it's because i'm young at that time but if ace fairly cut his hair. I had been horrified. I think everyone would have been horrified. I can't imagine ace short hair. That's got to be a weird well. I guess he did it and around the elder but he was wearing makeup around that time. Yeah yeah they queens. it was. This run promised land came out. I think yeah. I think this is around. The time promised land came out and and i tuned out on this band raw. Pretty much right away when this record came out. I just didn't like it and i really like much sense. It be honest with you. like woah. can't rock that hard deci got a haircut. Although i think he was still just pulling his long hair back all maybe like back. Ponytails times with geoff. Tate's weird bird so then you've got a advertisement for six metallica special magazines that tells you how big they were remember all those get them now before they also cut their hair. Oh too late. They did so. Let's check out the metal wire before we get into the metal wire. I dislike to put this altered listeners. That were around in ninety five and before. Was it as weird to you as it was to me to see all your favorite rockstars cutting their hair or was it no big deal. I mean looking back now. I say well i mean they're still the same guys. They still rock. They just got their haircut. Who cares but at the time it was really weird to me. And i really really didn't like it. It seemed like selling out for a rock star. You know somebody that you're you love and respect to cut their hair so in the comment section for me. Because i'm curious to know. Am i crazy or were you guys feel in the same way about this. I'd really like to know that. I felt the same way you did. Yeah i didn't like it either. I was like you're supposed to look like a rock. I have your hair long. And it seemed like betrayal. I mean i know that sounds silly now as an adult but at the time it felt like i don't know like selling all like betrayal to me. I don't know of this on the medal while first thing. Could zack wild. Be joining guns n. roses well. We know that didn't happen. Yeah i don't even remember that rumor. I don't remember ever hearing that either. Somebody with the management had confirmed that he was jamming with. Dnr that's interesting. I guess this would have been around this time that it's five o'clock somewhere come because that's you get the picture. Gilby clarke jamming with slash. That must've been them doing shows off of that album so that would have been on the time like a downtime for guns and roses so maybe axle was out trying to find a replacement for them. Yeah they did a And there's a photo slayer here holding gold albums. Says they celebrated the solid gold sales of of their four album catalogue. Four million records total at a party. Thrown by american recordings at hollywood's magic castle right and then they broke out The knives and they sacrificed goat but Here's to a million more. And then i was a little thing on slaughter slaughter has signed with cmc international records and we'll issue fear no evil on april eighteenth. Tough times man that's emc they. They release a lot of albums by bands. That i guess were considered to be washed up at that time but i still bought all those elms all the weird warrant albums that came out after their heyday slaughter albums this fearless evils. Pretty good album. Yeah it just got Our friend jason her new host the kiss my collectibles. He does that Kiss my wax records because he works in the record industry and they just Announced that they read it out like a re release of fear no evil on vinyl with like a booklet and everything that's cool. I can't imagine there were too many vinyl copies of that made in ninety five. I don't know if there were any back then probably not might have just been cd but Yeah it's out on vine pretty cool looking package. They put together. So if you're gonna that record you might want to buy it. That's the other thing too. You got to remember in nineteen ninety-five. Lp's dead like they would tell you lp's over they're never gonna come back. They're never gonna be popular again. Boy were they wrong. Yeah and they were. There wasn't a lot of people buying them. And i i think it was ninety five when sound gardens down on the upside came out and i bought it on vinyl and i i still had a record player at the time and i don't know why i wanted to buy it on vinyl because i really wasn't even using my record player and i think i just this is like this looks cool. I'm going to buy vinyl just to be weird. And i wound up selling it for like four times. What i paid for a few years ago. Yeah yeah because. I know nobody else bought it. Everybody was buying. Cd's breaks even back then in like ninety five if you had a record collection and you said okay. I'm not doing this no more. There's no point in having a record collection. Because i mean when i was young everybody knows the story. I got my uncle. Bruce's lp's kiss records and so that was my thing. He was like my collection. So when something new would come out. I want to get it on. Lp and then it got to the point where it was like you know. I don't even know if i can get this on l. p. so i kind of had to give it up and at the wrong time if you said okay well. I'm going to take mile record collection. I'm going to take it to the used album store and trade him in and get some cd money. Give you shit for the. Lp's that's they was. It was considered dead. Yeah get laughed out of the store man. I wish i had a stack of those albums. Now to go cash. In now as i wouldn't be cashing them in i'd keep it An article on lita ford with an about an album. She made called black. That was released on z. Y. x. records from germany. Do you remember this record. I don't. I don't have any memory of this album at all. I need to check it out. Yeah that might be something weird that maybe we never really heard about in the states but then again one thousand nine hundred five so you know not a lot of people were probably excited about leader four in ninety five but who knows it could be her best album ever but nobody's ever heard it and i mentioned that the video for the first single kill unkind was filmed in nashville. I should look that up because you know it didn't get played on. Mtv at that time no that's yeah that'd be interesting checkout. I'm going to have to keep my eyes open for that album. Set like to hear it. It's weird the stuff you learn from going back to these old magazines. Because i have no memory this record and i thought i kept up with stuff pretty well. This was around the time she hooked up with jim gillette and they got married so and then she kind of went on a hiatus forever down below their advertisement for the band solid. Your how prophetic is that. Right after a skid row article. Yeah they must have been looking at this magazine when it came out and said you know this solider guy is pretty good. You know if if some known ever work. Oh maybe we get rid of this guy. We could maybe get that guy. I'd like to hear some of that old solider. But you know. I've got that massive cd want list that i'm always trying to fulfil and got some solid solitaire on there. But i don't never see it anywhere and anytime i've tried to look it up online. Because actually like the stuff that he did with skid row. Nobody else really does. But i kind of liked it. Pretty good record thick skins pretty good revolutions permits got some great songs on it. The dudes a hell of a singer. So i always thought you know whatever he was doing before skid row was probably pretty good. I've always wanted to hear it. But like i said you know if you can find it online. It's usually pretty damn expensive because can't imagine it's kind of a rarity nowadays mall you just got to make your check or money out ordered a salinger. Po box to. I'm just I'll just call the number At it and order it and says catch salinger's video on the playboy channel hot rocks playboy channel used to run rock videos. Yeah so. I only watch playboy channel for the rocket on his mom. Give me the subscription. Yeah it's. I'm just here for the music that's all. It's only one hundred bucks a month right and then the next page has a thing about gilby clarke on tour for pawnshop guitars. That's a great album. Three fourths of cheap trick at the at the show. It looks like yeah. That's cool man. I was excited when that album came out i actually was a. That's what made me become a big fan of gilby clarke. Was that album. Because obviously you know you know him from guns and roses and so when that was coming out. I've been a big guns and roses fan. I wanna check this out none. I heard the song cure me or kill me on the radio and that songs got such a killer guitar riff to it. It's got such a great hook. And you'll be clark's toned right on the money man. Awesome guitar player awesome songwriter. He's got a new one called the gospel truth at should be coming up to my mailbox any day. Now 'cause i ordered it and Yeah but this was the album that kicked off my gilby clarke fandom. Because it's it's got some really great stuff on it. It's a very underrated album. I recommend it highly got I'm looking in the article. There is a Interesting kiss bid a news here. That i don't think i've ever heard about that's saying something says just returned from a tour of japan and australia. I remember that ninety five. Kiss his back in the studio at work on a new album with producer. Bob estrin between its completion and release the band plants to do an unplugged tour in conjunction with their official kiss conventions detail. Soon what That is weird. Yeah because i mean like you said this would have been carnival of souls time but bob. Arizona wasn't involved in that that i'm aware of don't think as rin wasn't anywhere near them around this time. That's really strange. If you know something about this leave leave some comments in our on our facebook page. Because i've never this is a kiss factoid. I have never heard about that. That had to adjust been a rumor. Because i don't think that ever happened. I suppose metal wire. It's kind of like the rumor section of the middle age. Yeah i guess so. Unless there's something about kiss that even chris sin zach doesn't know i'm a little blown away by this of like what i guess they're looking in these old metal edges for beat the questions. Yeah you'd probably find some good stuff in there. Because that's that's new to me and then like there's a little blurb about the saigon kick basis chris mclernon as ecstatic about saigon kicks new material which they're recording tampa florida. Some rocket pods stuff. Haven't announced chris. Mclernon is coming to rock and pod really. Yeah that's cool yup. He's going to be here. If you dinky your saigon kick stuff signed last time get two of them now. Now you get both of them then aerosmith a Show in boston at mama kin's for Get a grip. The mtv covered that. I remember there being like a special about this. They were huge at that time. Couldn't get away from him. Yeah yeah that's always wild. How some bands survive and some. Don't you know an aerosmith. They didn't. I don't know they didn't really conform to anything. They still did their own thing. But i mean people gravitated towards like people that didn't give two shits about seventies. Aerosmith came massive fans of the band in the nineties. It's wild the way that works sometimes now and on the next page. You've got article small article on ugly kid. joe there. I love that band. Had no idea aid you see i saw. I saw something i was reading. The other day that whitfield crane was one of the lucky few in the whole world. That got one of those bullets from lemme. Oh really's ashes in a cool so next time somebody tells me that. Somebody's favorite band is better than ugly kid. Joe i'd say. Let me see the bullet bullet. I don't think so ugly kid. Joe does yeah. Then there's an ad for hotlines for bans. Remember those what ninety nine cents a minute or something like that. And it doesn't say has their numbers and and of course you got like slaw is slaughter tough. You've got some of the got banned pariahs on here and then you've got native tongue some bands. I've never even heard of. There's a bank stain. Which i'm thinking is not the same. As the one that became the grunge band floyds funk revival was like after south gang but before what was the other band that Butch walker was in marvel yet that was kind of the transaction. Bam knows to bands. Yeah that's a butch walker thing. I had no idea. That's on my cd list. It's bold always wanted to hear that. And i can't find it anywhere shut. I've never even heard of the band. It's funk revival lecomte. Don't remember them the crying. I dunno bobby. Rock had his own phone number kicking. Herald black bart Somebody's bands i've never even heard. I doubt they got too many calls. Lou murders on their. Yeah they are. Yeah that's wild. I wonder if that was. Just some prerecorded thing. Hey thanks for calling a hotline. This is slaughter you know we got new music coming out. We're going on tour. These are the tour dates you know or do you call in blas. Elias answers the phone. Hello speaking of drummers on the next page about there's an article about tricks or getting a new drummer. Think i'll pass on that one page. Thirty five has a Concert calendar it's interesting to see. Who was touring at this time. Ugly kid joe dog eat dog and goldfinger toured together I don't even know. It was only two bands. Jimmy page and robert plant were touring at that time. Todd zilla was at the memphis show. He delivered a an acoustic guitar robert. That's right look in the archives for that story pan taron type. O negative toured together. I bet you that was awesome. Yeah steve perry was touring at this time still so before he went into hiding Bloodline do you remember. Bank bloodline no. I don't remember them either. Extremist touring and tesla was touring. Tesla's never stopped touring. Now they're still touring nonstop all the time. The rock on the rise has bad moon rising. You remember them. No rope for mike tramps freak of nature at that time Mata hari i remember the name. I don't think i've ever heard their music. They were there mentioned. Big bang babies. I do remember them. Yeah yeah. I remember them too. I think i remember him being something i liked at that time Cary kelly was in that band. Maybe that's why. Thimble thimble see thimble the night. Noah may the mustard seeds That sounds familiar. But i can't. I don't know what and i love that. They were still trying to hawk. Metal edge was still trying to hawk off. All those extra poisons special magazines in nineteen ninety-five not muster printed. A shit on those. We've got a surplus. They gotta go. And the motley crue wants to those those magazines. Were like eight years old by that point. Wow and they were still selling them in collectors. Issues bon jovi. There's a kissel. And i had that kiss one. Talking watch sounds wonderful. You don't have to see the time you can hear the time reminds you of things to do. You'll never forget. It's called fitbit now. Yeah like the rock jewelry you get. The marijuana leaf necklace won't one of the thankfully unlike nineteen eighty-four no swastikas. They had grown up a little bit of marijuana leave totally fines. Come on people grow up. Let's see the star trek magazines. This is when the rockers from the eighties that were kids in thought they were being controversial. Grew up in. Like what was i thinking. Got the track by track breakdown of the skid row. Some human race. You skipped over the elvis. Watch seven dollars ninety five cents. Oh yeah the official. Elvis watch and two gorgeous designs in metal edge magazine. No less. yeah. I don't think they sold too many now. I don't think you're moving. A lot of elvis watches with the buyers of metal edge in ninety five. Whether you like ugly kid. Joe or soundgarden right. Oh this is interesting on Page forty eight th birthday list and you can see what the age of the people were turning that in may of ninety five. Wow so stevie. Rachelle was turning twenty nine. Jason newstead was thirty. Two bret michaels thirty two g d. Snyder turned forty that year. Wow and that's a long time ago to scott. Born from thin lizzy was only forty two at that time. Wow donovan was twenty nine already. Yeah steven tyler. Turn forty-seven and we thought he was old then. Yeah billy sheehan turned forty to meet billy sheehan at rockin pod to saying it's pretty wild. Look back on that stuff you know we were so young. There's jackal rip-off bon jovi posing in front of a church. That's funny they. Look cool though jesse james. Do pre pulling off his best Jim dandy look. There got the friends jacket. White leather fringe jacket. I always thought those jackets look cool. Maybe that makes me dated and old. But i liked it back then. Yeah me too and then. He got a corroborate era crew picture. We'll see too many of those that's cool man. And there's warrant nineteen ninety-five that's not the original lineup anymore. At this point couple of guys missing. They must have the keyboard player in here there. Six people on this photo strange times for those bands. But if you look you know it's like like you said you know you got four pinups in a row you got jackal motley crue ninety four warrant and then stone temple pilots and this is weird because the way the page layout as you see half estonia pilots and then half a van hagar which is it's like the weirdest supergroup of all time van hagar dressed like somebody's mom in one thousand nine hundred five. Yeah i think yeah. Sammy's wearing mom jeans. Totally wearing mom jeans got took pulled all the way up past his belly. Button and michael. Anthony looks like a middle aged dad. Well they are. They're standing underneath a basketball hoop. They're watching their kids. Shoot hoops or salt. And this is a very unroll. Look very it's like what what happened the times when you know. Rockstars looked like they were in a band. You know like somebody. That was an abandoned. Look at them go. Oh heck i must be in a band like you look at this like oh that guy must be picking up his kids from daycare. These guys shop at the gap. Yeah not good then. The centerfold is a pull out of aerosmith with steven tyler with bare-chested as always yeah. That's pretty cool. Pitcher aerosmith though Then you have the other half of the weird super groovy allison eddie. Van halen and the other two guys from so double. Oh at the anywhere. What does that sweater. Jesus some super long sweater. But he's like holding it up in the front. That's strange borrow. That from valerie looks like a woman sweater. I don't know it's really strange. How van halen is dressed in this. I mean alex looks cool. He's got a t-shirt and a leather jacket. That's cool three guys look really strange. Like hey guys doing a photo shoot you know. Try to look like rockstars. Ha now we're not to win. That i can kind of see the source of an wildly anger. Now yeah not good night only did. Sammy ruined the music. He also ruined their fashion sense. It's probably his idea for them all to get haircuts. And that was his true power easy. He delilah him. Oh man you've been going for a while already. There's some cool stuff in here. More more crazy jewelry. I love the jewelry. The large rings with the skulls on them all at at the. Let's get right to the good stuff. Let's go to the mail bag. That's always my favorite part of these. Yeah there's the mail bags very few pages long so there should be some good stuff in here. Somebody with questions for tommy lee. See she says. I'd like to know what his favorite movie the best joke. He's ever heard if it's short enough could you print it. What kind of humor he likes. Best is favorite pastime. How he described himself turn on and turn off. And how does he like the scandinavian countries. I wish him in the ban all the best and and the answer was. Tommy loves a clockwork orange. English humor makes him laugh and he likes to ride his harley. What kind of what kind is the joke is. What kind of be gives. Milk a booby. that's a very tommy level. Joe you know don't get it. Booby couldn't he couldn't come up with words to describe himself but he says traffic in those silver tabs on. Cd's suck and scandinavian women rule looking for more stuff. Here's a jackal one. I'm hoping my problem. I want to be a recording engineer but did not know how to go about it. I've written to some schools. But i don't think they have what i'm looking for working for helping to find a school that will offer me a degree of some sort of you know some schools in our around saint louis if not. I'll take any suggestions of any school hoping that one day i will get to an engineer on a jackal record. Nice that's from sandra. Says we registered letter to mike. Fraser pass guests on the show who engineered. jackals push. Come to shove and has worked with. Aerosmith metallica thunder blue murder and most recently a invents neil and he said forget the schools there are rip off tried to get a job at a studio as a runner. This is a low or non paying go for job but it offers the important chance to observe and learn. The best school is full sail. There's one in miami. It's fifteen to twenty grand and you still have to start as a runner when you get out in other words. Save your money and try to get on the job experience. Yep i mean that worked for him. Didn't it yeah. I mean that's exactly where he said he came from. You know hanging on that studio in canada and just learning and help in finding opportunities and the opportunities eventually presented themselves and by being a part of different projects you know. He learned things so when the opportunity came around and do something big. He was ready for it. Yeah here's an interesting one. I'm taking a poll on motley crue. Everyone is welcome to write an answer. These questions do you think nikki sixes responsible for. Vince is leaving. And if not what do you think the reason was. Do you think motley crue would be more successful if they handled the press differently or not made. Rude comments towards vince. Do you think molly crew should have changed their name. Do you approve of john corby and their new music. I plan to give everyone's letters to motley crue so they can really see what people think and then the metal edge said we'd like to see the results to thanks middle age are what are you doing. Stand no front of your kroger in your hometown and just asking people questions. Well she said if you enclose a self addressed fm You'll get a response. Importers of the are welcome to write and she put her address on. Look this chick up on facebook and see if we can get her on the show on time to see what the results were got her full name on her. Two bathrooms scaglione. -i look her up or down here. Here's an interesting one. I have some questions for glenn danza. I want to know a bit about what happened down under with def leppard. Did you beat the shit out of them. I would like to know who your influences are and is or was jim. Morrison your idol. Most important what is your religious religious preference. Wow and he answers. He says what happens was what happened was we were doing a festival in the guy from def leppard. Were being all rock starry food and they wouldn't get out of the way and i was like what you please move and they wouldn't move then i said well you get the fuck out of the way there was like thirty of them and it was just me and my security guy. We took them on but never got to fighting. Someone from a british magazine said they punched me and made me bloody. It never happened. Okay i never heard about this either. glenn's influences ranged from punk to blues elvis black sabbath of of that surprising while he includes the late doors frontman on his list of singers. Jim morrison is not an idol of mine. He says he did have a pretty good voice but an overweight alcoholic is not my idol. As for your last question. I do not know. What my real religious preferences I don't like overweight alcoholic. But i love overweight. Pill poppers a whole. Here's somebody asking mark slaughter some questions. I'm gary i'm guessing. This is a female. Yes a patty. Okay i have a few questions for mark slaughter. How does he feel about fan sitting outside his house. What would you prefer girl with a great personality and average looks or very beautiful girl with hardly any personality. Something tells me. Patty is the former Why does anywhere underwear. What does how do you know that. What does he think about breast implants. If he could build the perfect woman what would she look and act like what would he do of slaughter ever broke up. Why doesn't he or the band do promotional appearances in philadelphia. Do they hate philly. They never come to the east coast. What do i gotta do. Come to your house. No says they'd have to be awfully sneaky to get to my house. As marquis lives in a high security gated community. he'd go for the girl with the personality over the dull beauty and prefers natural breasts but if it makes a woman happy if it's something she wants to do for yourself it's okay. He finds underwear to binding okay and described history moment as effervescent with a good sense of humor and sexy. He won't consider the break-up idea. I don't think. I don't think that way we're here to rock and roll for a long time. He says well he acknowledges that slaughter hasn't been back east in a while they have nothing against philadelphia stem kelly's down and hoped to play the spring. Hate your city. He was right though. Slaughter has been around for a long long time. They're still around today. I can't believe we didn't. We missed out on the opportunity to ask him about his underwear when we interviewed them. I know i never even thought about it. did deranged. You know minds would like to know. And bret michaels questions. We were wondering if you would answer some questions about bret michaels. What kind of cologne does he wear if any what's his pants. Shirt and shoe size favorite food color favorite food color and type of shoe. What does he look for in a lady. This is from. Heather and agnes so heather got her grandmother to write a letter. I guess Nice brett favre's obsession for men and calvin klein. Eternity sense where size. Twenty seven twenty eight pants medium shirt and size nine shoe and picks talion food black and cowboy boots. He goes for somebody who's sexually turns me on in the way they can. They carry themselves. I like a woman who can carry herself in public. Who knows how to act. And once we're behind closed doors. I can have a halfway meaningful conversation with her on a bush. Hard hitting journalism. Here is the thing about wild side. Those is must be part of one of these long ones but they answer three members of wild side drew. Hannah jimmy d and mark. Simon are still playing and recording together. An exco woods with the vince is with vince. Neal jesse impala working solo. No word from steve at this time. Yeah that was short. Lived by ninety five. That was all done. Here's one of my favorite areas the music exchange and i. I bought a couple of things from people through here. but it's like people selling like bootleg tapes and videos and stuff so there's a lot of cassettes seeking pinup posters. And this is the internet before the internet right here is like facebook early on then the More there's there's a lot of ads for like jewelry and clothing in this one more than usual metalhead directory. This is like the pen pal directory. Remember that sure do. I never partook in it but i reminded neither. It'd be funny if actually knew some of the people in here. I need to look into this deavere when i have have time. All let's go to the rock and roundup. These are always entertaining metal edge asked. Do you believe in love at first sight. Let's see some of the notable and steven tyler. Yes but only if it's based on one part intuition. Two parts. Animal attraction three parts lost in four parts. Look it's a very steven tyler answer. Yeah tom hamilton earlier. I suppose it's possible. Just be sure. It's the human. That's a very tom hamilton. Answer it's a strange way to answer that question. Alice cooper absolutely. How could anyone take one. Look at me and not fall in oil elliott. Yes because i'm shallow Gene simmons no. I believe lost happens. I and if the rest of the puzzle fits it turns into love. And that's why is he says absolutely because both wives i've had Thomas keough not really. She can turn out to be a bitch. Later never happened to me. Not that he remembers rob alford. Yes happens to me all the time. What's funny back then. You wouldn't even thought twice. That rob helfer was talking about dudes day mistaken. Inanimate objects no people sometimes my son. Yes david ellison sure if you're blind Nick men's was not in a good mood that day. only for the weak minded shallow individuals. Jeez that's not very nice. Linden's egg no. I don't i believe in chemistry. That's that's for sure there are things that attract people to other people. You never know why. That's a great thing actually doesn't need explanation. Sebastian bach asks the second dog on a sled team. What a goober is kind of funny though. Oh man a lot of these are just. They're serious or not. Some of them aren't really that funny. Yeah a lot of them. Saying i believe in lust at first sight. That's that's vince. Neal for sure he says that at badger from extreme says yes. I have the playboy channel. But i only watch for the music videos. Yeah that's all i did. It's the only way you can hear the new leader ford. Yeah exactly bobby dall no. I didn't see that one carry elaborate. No no thanks bobby. That's why we didn't read too. Many bobby dall interviews back in the day slave. Even jesse james dupree. Yeah why not being interviewed by magazine. I mean come on. Put a little effort into it. Big brown from docking. Yes harley davidsons sambora. I do johnny jelly from hardline. Yes it's not. Just a tickle in your pickle at something you feel all over tickle in your oh man good stuff you had the posters down here look Aerosmith is sold out but you guide nirvana stone. Temple pilots guns and roses def leppard. Green day metallica. Gr another metallica. Pandera and pearl jam. Heavy metal posters only four dollars. Ninety eight cents. Good luck finding a poster for that price. Now probably won't be this. Was i find it funny in between mean. Those are the top bands at this time. Right there near the back. There's a snowboarding with biohazard article. Nice that sounds like fun. Because when i think of snowboarding i think of biohazard who. There's my favorite kiss t shirt. The four faces all around on the page with the What's rockabilly with the pink. Kiss the all around shirt. yup man. That thing was cool. I had to have it in one thousand nine hundred five. I didn't care about nirvana. i didn't care about none of those bands. I wanted to kiss t-shirt that kiss shirts worth a lot of money. Now to yeah. It sells for over two sells for over two hundred dollars on ebay regularly. Wow and that's funny thing about a lot of these t shirts because you figure you know anybody that bought them probably warm to death and so how many in good condition are still out there you know. There are some t shirts that are really expensive. I know when we went out to los angeles at time we went to a store that had rocked t shirts but man they knew what they had you know and so something like that is a super collector's item. Because it's not like an album that you know you played one hundred times or whatever and it sat in your collection. I mean you wore these shirts. You know nobody. Nobody bought one of these shirts back. Then and said i'm gonna put this away and save it for the future right. you know. Most of them got ward till they got war out. Yeah well let's all go for so much now. Well although it's kind of like the in thing for millennials to do is to wear those shirts now driven the price up on all of them and then near the back. You've got a Pinup of chris cornell standing in a cornfield. I see what they did. There would they do. They put chris cornell. Oh that's it. I'm outta here. No more isn't it obvious. Here's a advertisement for two bands that have apparently I band is suicide. Circus and the next band is erotic suicide. I'm i hate to be morbid but how we is it that those two ads are opposite. A picture of chris cornell who commit committed suicide. That is weird. I've never heard of either of those bands mean either. Although suicide circus according to rip magazine skid row meets faster pussycat so they sound right up your alley. Yeah i'm gonna have to add that to my cd want list. Erotic suicide tired of trends. All grunge doubt. Try the alternative to the alternative. Take the ride of your life through a park Boy of a band called abused park. But i've never heard of erotic suicide from edmond. Oklahoma looks like a warning. If you're going to commit suicide make sure it's erotic. Any other way may be hazardous to your else. They put a lot of thought into this advertisement. They were taking it seriously. It's like we want to be entertaining and fun. You know in a in a time. Where a lot of these bands aren't a lot of fun you know. Look i mean. Look at chris cornell he looks so serious you know. Nobody was having fun in. This was the time when these band said all these other old bands you know. They took themselves so seriously with their. You know make up in their hair. And this and that. But i mean they really. Didn't you know the the grunge bands were the ones that seemed like. Especially in retrospect now where the bands like poison molly crew were doing anything but taking themselves seriously because of the shit they were doing. In the way they look how could they. But then you look at this pitcher chris cornell and and that's pretty serious right there. Yeah but i mean how much fun you have standing in a fucking cornfields. I'd be mad too. I suppose that's got to be pretty boring man. You know when. I was reading mental age when i was coming up. I'd see poisoned with a bunch of half naked women. What you want me to stand in front of this corn. Oh great on the next page is a picture pan. Tara and they look about his enthusiastic. Chris cornell cornfield funny. That should become a catchphrase. That's a t shirt right. They're excited as chris cornell in a cornfield they do look like they're about to beat somebody's ass though they probably about to beat the cameraman's probably you used. You've waited till page ninety eight to put us in the magazine. You're going to get your ass kicked. Hey guys at least you're not a cornfield. They got a rare compact discs advertisement. I used to love those too. Because it's like you know you look at stop and go. I've never seen any of these anywhere. And it's all a bootleg stuff cd warehouse and the pew new york new york I wonder if that's anything like the cd. Warehouses that are still around today. I don't no doubt it and ula picture firehouse from nineteen ninety-five don't don't they also looked so serious do and that's when perry dyed his hair dark to wow. That doesn't even look like him. I thought that was maybe after he was out of the ban. Now that's him. Wow that doesn't even look like him at all. Those were his. That was his hard drinking days to. He was pretty bad off on the alcohol back. Then house a wild story. He told about how he never really drank and then all of a sudden became an alcoholic. Yeah well living that life. I mean it's easy to get caught up. Sure i'm in firehouse. Gimme drink yeah. Next page is a Little quick thing. On steve perry when he was still touring. And there's our friend. Paul taylor who was playing keys forum at that time. Paul taylor going to be iraq and pod. That's right you said it before i could. It's a real team effort. And there's an article on kicks in here about the show business album. You like that record. I don't really even know that one. That's another one. That's how my list that i've never really heard. I'm not super big on it myself but it's okay. Yeah at the and that was right after. Brian left the band. Yeah that's right. I've been Checking out some of that funny money. That steve's side ban effort or good kicks fell apart. That is really good at really kind of re. It's more kicks than what you would think of soil. If you're an abani you go do a solo album. you think. Oh it's going to be totally different than what you're used to right. He just basically continued. The whole kicks thing you know now. Some good songs on those albums check out the ad for warrant. That's the back of the magazine is a full page. Ad for the ultra phobic record. Yeah that's emc also. Yeah sure is the home of horrible album cover artwork. Yes see that was yeah. That album covers. Where it's a great album ultra phobic. Really good. I like the record. Yeah and it's sad that you know in ninety five and nobody gave a shit. But i bought that album the day it came out. You know i was same thing. You run to the camelot music just like you always did you know said now. You're running. Pass a bunch of people in flannel to get all the way down to the ws and while there's two copies of it here i'm glad i'm getting one of them like you're in the w section. Did you want weezer like no. I want warrant in there. Like what cherry pie one. There's a new one. Yeah but i was. You know like you said in ninety five i was. I was a weird kid because as much as everybody told me. You know you're trapped in the eighties. You're stuck in the eighties. I still cared about those bands. You know i. I wasn't just going to throw away warrant because you know they weren't getting played on mtv. I wasn't going to throw away a ban that i liked. Because you know people weren't treating them with the same respect they had in years past. You know that all of a sudden like you can't like warrant no more because now there's nirvana and pearl stone temple pilots. You know it's that never registered to me and you know that's kinda what's cool about this metal edge magazine is that they kind of treat it the same way that i seen it. You know is like why. What's the difference you know. Why can't i like warrant and white zombie you know. They're mixing it up where it's a little bit of both which is cool because that's the way it really should have been you know there's no reason why these bands couldn't coexist. There's no reason why you can't like that anymore because now it's time to like this. I never understood that. I would never accept it. You know where. I had friends that i thought man you guys. You call me a poser. Because i like warrant but really. Who's the frigging poser. When you just are gonna willing to just drop everything that you legitimately said you liked last week but all of a sudden because you're told that's not cool anymore than you're just going to go along with it you know. Who's the real poser. In this in this equation. And i can never get that you know so in ninety five. Yeah i bought ultra phobic. The day it came out. And i was excited about it just as much as i had been wind. Doggy dog came out. Just as excited as i was. When skid row came out with subhuman race you know and all these bands that were. I loved that. Were still coming out with music. You know and i. I supported him even though nobody else really did. L. a. guns. You know vicious circle. I had that too. You know when it was new and it just bummed me out at the time because it's like how. how do you you know all of a sudden just. Oh i don't like that. No more you know when it hasn't drastically changed you know it's still as good as it was. And in some cases a lot of these bands put some of their best stuff in the nineties. When nobody gave a shit you know and people missed out on a lot of good stuff because they were hip to the new thing you know and i just could never understand. I think and this is just a theory. But it's it's almost like an end of decade thing because and i'm certainly not defending disco at all because i'm not a fan of it but look how giant disco was. As the end of the seventies happened. It was huge and then it like clockwork when the decade changed over it was like you immediately had to hate it and there was just this backlash against it. There was even people doing disco demolition nights and stuffing up disco records but like look at the end of the eighties with like hair metal. It was it was huge and almost like clockwork he'd go into a new decade and it in and maybe it was a couple years and more like ninety two is really what had happened. But but you get what i'm saying. It was like we're in a new decade and the powers that be have decided that this is not cool anymore and nirvana is the next big thing and a lot of that is and then it just everything got show. I'm just like you. I got all kinds of grief for continuing the liked docking and poison and rat motley crue and and like i love the like the motley crue record with karate i kept i was like i tried to make believers out of people with that record is on mike yet. It's not the same van that was like listen. This is motley crue this new era. It's really good news and they just like. Oh it's motley crue. I'm not even going to give it a chance. A the fuck man. But then i remember times of playing something word. You wouldn't tell somebody what you're listening to and you being your car with them and they go. Wow what is this all. This is the new vince. neal yoke. it's carved in stone in people will be like. Wow this is amazing. You guys are a bunch of idiots. I did that with And i'm not as everyone knows. I'm not a fan of the psycho circus record kiss but I really dug the song within because it reminded me a carnival. Souls you know and i love that heavier sound and i remember. I was playing that for one of my for. And he's not a kiss fan at all. He was more into weezer and bands like that. But and metallica megadeath. It just kiss was just not his thing. And i played it without telling him he's like who is this. Kiss so new record was like what you gotta be fucking kidding me and i was like no. It's kiss then. of course i went to. I pledge allegiance to the state or rock and roll. And i was like all right. Never mind like no. that's kiss. Yeah he was like what the fuck man yeah and i. I didn't let it get to the peter chris long. Thank god of course. I didn't spend it for somebody's wedding song either now. It's funny though the way people's minds are kind of programmed to reject certain things even though they might actually like it. You know one of my favorite memories working our radio. One time is when vanilla. Ice came out with his heavy metal songs. And you still think kind of like smash of trash in on this one. I was like i'm gonna play this for you. I want you to tell me if you like it or not. And then i'll tell you who it is and it was like the phones are coming in like. Oh man that's really cool 'cause this time like limp iskin corn and stuff was bannon metal. All that's really good now that tell me who it is. You know like. I will stay tuned. You know and people are like. Oh i love it i love it i love it and then i say oh. It's vanilla ice and then all of a sudden the phones changed. You know it was like all that sucks you know what it was just like a dime you know in in turning on it where the you know one minute. You don't know what it is you think. Oh that's pretty good. Then you find out it's vanilla ice and now it's socks you know. It's funny how that works. Which i thought it sucked from beginning but i knew all along so who. Yeah pretty strange man strange times especially ninety five. It's kind of cool going back and looking this magazine because you know the time we did this before. It was nineteen eighty four and there was no disputing that. Every band we talked about on that episode was something that most everybody likes and respects nowadays. Ninety five man. There's a lot of intermingling of different kinds of rock in there and it's cool to me. I think that medal edge didn't look at it as this is glam. that's grunge. this is thrashed. This is that they really all inclusive in this stuff where they really treated as rock music. And i like that. I respect metal edge for it. Yeah it's cool to go back and look at it because you know we were both you know. Eighteen nineteen years old and Kind of becoming adults at that time. So it's It's interesting to think back on those days and yeah it was The the kiss thing still blows me away. I gotta do more research on that. Bob azran story. That's odd but but yet like tell us your thoughts you know. I'll post the link for the the flip through the magazine. So you can. You can flip along with it and and see what we're looking at and everything but Yeah and also a good thing to know is that certainly rock and ron's going to be taking this episode and making it into a youtube show for us will geek tv. So if you wanna hang out after you're done listening to this. I'm sure probably won't take too much time. But keep your eyes open. Health subscribed to decibel geek tv. And when rock and ron puts together you're going to be able to see each thing that we've been talking about because he's going to include it as part of the video so that'll be a lot of fun to yeah so it'll be a tell us your thoughts on this era of of rock and what you think of these stories and the you know the wire and the stories about some human rights. We want to hear your opinion in your thoughts on these things and i want to know the power of the haircut. How did you know. I wasn't real. Happy with metallica. For doing now. I wasn't happy with anybody that did it. I thought it was selling on. But i'd be interested to hear what other people think of that too. So there you have it. There's our episode this week rock. Meg ninety five. I guess we'll catch you guys next week. But don't forget you can always join us on friday night live on the facebook and desperately geek tv seven. Pm central time. You'll have to do your own time math to figure that out for where you're at in the world but We will be there so join us and get in on the conversation. Got some cool stuff lined up. I think guys are gonna love it and other than that. I guess We'll see you next week.

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Identity at the Center #84 - Solorigate Recap with Robb Reck

Identity at the Center

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Identity at the Center #84 - Solorigate Recap with Robb Reck

"You're listening to the identity of the podcast. This is the show that talks about identity and access management and making sure who has access to what let's get started. Welcome to the identity of the center. Podcast geoff that's jim jim. Hey jeff how's it goin' not so bad yourself good good. They usually start with something about the weather or something trivial but And it today. I had something lined up. You know talk about a rocky mountain high. Is we got this big denver triangle going with our podcast today and then we sauce news. Drop in this kind of mind blowing the little over the place but we'll get through it. Yeah yeah there's there's some news so we're gonna tear down. I think the fourth wall yet again as we normally do were recording a couple of weeks in advance but today is march third. So we're gonna talk about some announcement that literally just broke as we're about to refer but here before we get to that. Let's let's get through a couple of other items that we want to get to. So we've got a diverse right. They're coming up and The registration is open. It's going to be june twenty first twenty third at least for the in person event which is in denver on. They haven't extended kind of online event as well. But i think it goes a week past that you can go to identify verse dot com to check out. I'm still on the fence about being anywhere in person in june but with the news that there is apparently enough vaccine supply by may who knows right. Maybe maybe they'll make sense so What are your thoughts on that jim. I think i'm ordering all the vaccines true. Americans go to walmart and fill my car. Vaccines The other thing that we want to talk about is identity management day it is april thirteenth. It is the second tuesday of april and is a new global galactic holiday that. We're going to be helping celebrate and promoting. So we'll talk about a little bit about that more. Waiter wanna make sure that people Don't forget that and take part But other than that. Why don't we go ahead and introduce guests for today. His name is rob wreck. He's the chief information security officer ping identity and he's going to help us through a few different conversations including our breaking news as well as things like so arrogate in cloud security and zero trust. I'm sure other things as they come to the stream of consciousness. Compare the show. Rob glad to be here. And i also complete your triumvirate of denver connections as i am here in denver. They're go. this is the street that were on a love it so jim. Why don't you talk about the breaking news here that article. That is ben briefly scanned as we're about to start here right and so the the headlines simply reads that octa has signed a definitive agreement to acquire off. Jiro so those are two of the of the big hitters in the accidents mansion space. Of course one of the others being identity rob wreck on the on the cassis. We but it's an interesting and unexpected move Within our space right. I mean we've been seeing more and more consolidation but it's not often that you see To the the big fish Involved in an acquisition like so Really think it's interesting you know i've been In you know jet. You and i have been involved in a lot of cia and customer. I am strategy development of recent and You know oz. Zero in october usually in that conversation. So the two of them kind of coming into one is obviously. We don't know all the details yet right. This drinking news haven't even had a chance to really fully read the article but You know my my mind is a million miles an hour rob. What what's your hot tag. So i i think i got to be careful as a executive for a public company. That competes with these. I'll just say that. I'm i was surprised and i'm really interested to see where this goes. I think that they both have interesting. Strengths and understanding how they're going to complement each other. I think is obviously what their leadership teams going to put together soon. And i for one. I'm interested to see what that looks like. Yeah it's it's always interesting when you have competitors that are joining forces and they have similar capabilities really. i mean. obviously everyone's realization has shown strength and things like that but you know what i read briefly. Scan the article. It's six and a half billion in a stock deal. That's a lot of money or a lot of paper money. I should say i hope i read it. Maybe it gets on top of that one and pushes that went to the moon just like they did with game. Stop big wing right. Yes like ten. Bitcoin and he can buy a tesla. I think pretty soon with bitcoin too. So who knows right. Yeah that's pretty cool. Well rob thanks for joining us Usually we start with you. Know how did you get into info second you know specifically the identity space but that was kind of breaking news and kind of like okay. Let's let's talk about that real quick. So let's let's restart here so you know you're you're working with ping right now. How did you get into the infosec. Space specifically the area. Is it something that you chose. Did you choose it yeah. That's a great question. I'm happy to reset the clock. I i was a kind of your typical. It actually right out of college. I i was on a call center. Helping people make their video games work for electric arts and i followed a path of going from that Customer support to desktop support network network engineer. Really call it the two thousand and three timeframe when when sarbanes oxley told all of those public companies that you need to start having controls in place you need to be able to prove that. You're you're doing things like access. A checks into your systems themselves have appropriate controls on them. That was that was when i got the opportunity to to learn what security was and you know i was at a relatively mature company. But they didn't have a security team. They didn't really have anyone doing that type of work at all. And you know i there was. There was a my way was blocked. If i wanted to go after becoming the exchange admin or the active directory guy but the security space was wide open and i i went after it as just my area within within. It and man. I really fell in love with it. You know especially in the early two thousands very immature not a lot of well re well known standards to follow and certainly they weren't being followed very many places when they were there. Just give me a chance to to start being creative within. It and i really enjoyed that From from that one organization which was an oil and gas company. I i then went to a a small company. That did interestingly enough. We did on my mentoring for large enterprises. And i got to build a security program to meet the the security requirements of the biggest organizations in the world. Who's who of the top one hundred. They're the only people who pay for a mentoring sass product by the way or at least they were the only ones who did it back then and they all wanted their their employees data to be protected just as well as they did internally so i got the chance to learn that and and that was really my trial by fire into security from there went over to banking and and it was the sea e so for a for a couple of different financial institutions and two thousand a year. Be two thousand fifteen. I met i met. Andre durand the ceo and founder of paying. And andre andre was telling this crazy story about identity of becoming more personal and on your device and and how how. We're going to be using these devices to authenticate into the future. And and i'll tell you he didn't use the words that i'm going to use right now. But he sold the vision of zero trust in getting away from the network as your primary way of of instilling trust and and really using those devices to do it. And i for years had recognized that my security programs with with primarily network based controls. Were not very effective. You know you're just had way too many ways around those things and and showing that vision of how we can actually fix it. That got me excited. And and that. That's what made me come to paying Just been an amazing run. There and i came in two thousand sixteen. Been there just over five years. And and in that time we were sold to private equity Then we went public and you know we have more than tripled or quadrupled and We've invested a ton in building out of security practice. It's really heavily focused on a product security and cloud security and I've i've been really blessed to be a part of that last five years all right so i know we're gonna talk. I am you mentioned. Ea and i'm a gamer. So you you said you worked In a as like a representative is that. Is that what i heard so i actually worked there for almost three years. So yeah the. The first job i had was that like right out of college. I answered phones and helped you install new sound card drivers. Because you know you couldn't run your game and then you know that's not the most ideal job in ea Soc shortly after that. I got a job. On the on the testing team actually was a tester for a number of games. That you'll know i was a tester on madden ninety nine. Madden two thousand on Oh man to tiger woods golf. And the sims i if know the sims which is now a pretty big online series. I was on the original sims testing team. A bunch of others. I'm not gonna be able to remember thought my head but That was a it was way worse than it sounds it. May i make it sound. Good because i said a bunch of fun games but it was a pretty terrible job and i don't recommend you or your kids ever do that. It sounds to me like that kind of ruin video games to some level for some folks. I had never really played it like i did before i used to be a pretty big gamer and since working there i i hardly at all and certainly not hours a day like i did before was gonna say jeff. I think if you had that job You might never go for promotion but a great effort. Yeah i don't know. I mean i mean i certainly like my games and i. I've i've been kind of a lifelong video gamer in that was certainly the. Hey day right when you're kind of mid to late nineties and early two thousands. I don't play as much as i used to. But i can certainly remember you know many a disagreement let's say over. You don't madden games and nhl games and you know who is the king of the jungle things like that when it came to to who was Who was best at it. So i don't know i mean i think i would like to be positive in some point but maybe not on the testing side. That does not sound fun to me. Yeah i would just say testing a video. Game is not playing that game. Like you gotta get those two things separated in your head because testing is looking for ways to to break it and you don't break it by having a fun time playing it but those those two things don't go together so that say that but i will say the best games in a lot of gamers at the at the company. The best games are games. Like What Ncw football the man. What's it called the hockey game. Remember the new hockey but those games were were the ones that do the best players really enjoyed. So i over time. I've really kinda come around to appreciating. The the purity of those games was a. It was a fun time. We paid a lot of nhl You know me and my crew back then and it was immortalized In the swingers. Movie with vince. Vaughn and the whole scene about roenick. And you know making the guy's head bleed things like that. But i digress right now now. We went on a video game second. There's another thing that that Probably people should be aware of and that is that you are a fellow palm castor. You've got your own podcast. Called colorado equals security. Once you told me about that. I we do have a podcast. I i actually just celebrate our two hundred episode weekly. So you know we just past four years the really. It's a podcast but from my perspective. It's really just part of this larger movement that we're we're trying to amplify the really cool stuff that's happening. In colorado around security were mid sized state with an oversized tech and security industry and over time. I was a volunteer for essay in town. And we we recognize that. There's so many cool things going on in the state but none of us you know. There's no one place to go find out what they all were. So we decided to create that men another another see so slash x. Is this avon tier got together and put this together. Alex would and it's been great. Basically we do like a local roundup of the news of colorado security for the last week which by the way. There's there's more than you might expect. and then we also do an interview with a local person You know it really is just targeted for those colorado folks but Anyone who's interested in that happy to have him come. Listen so rob Typically when we talked to cis oh that person is the top. I am within their company. You're the aso at identity. And i identity company so i'm gonna venture to guess that you're probably not the top top one or two people in terms of i am knowledgeable than the organization. So am i right and kind of what is that. Life real yeah. It's it's definitely was humbling. I'll say and i've i've been insecurity now for almost twenty years. It for significantly longer. And i've always been you know you know the the top person for who cared about identity and and what would have good theories for how we should improve the user experience And i come to paying. And i'm made number three hundred three the three hundredth best identity person in the company. That might be generous. I don't know there's just you know. I don't know if you guys know brian campbell and david weight and Jerry miller these guys you know part of creating the standards across the industry they are pillars within our company who You know who who. I go to and ask for advice on how we can get better at practically doing the identity things that That paint helps companies do. It's it's definitely others the good and bad right. There was a number one. I talked about that. I've got all these amazing resources but then you know every time i want to roll out new security thing. I i get a lot of lot of opinions. Why didn't we do this. There's this new guidance you can do it this way and you know the i. It's not that. I don't appreciate the opinions. It's that i don't have time to respond to three hundred people every time we want to make a change and explain why what we had to do with this way for this reason. It's definitely interesting experience. And one that i wouldn't trade. Yeah absolutely help. Lots of helpers but now i think you're perfectly positioned to talk to us about. Our main topics are today. Which is a quote unquote solar winds. Reach or weather. A lot of people were calling soared. So larry gate. And i got that right And we you know. We've already talked about those. So i know you've got a perspective in kind of you know you're looking at this from different angles. Obviously you're this. The iso at a software development firm that has you know you do a lot of your business offering cloud services But you know the kind of the first obvious angle is the end game. What we've all heard about gate which is in the attack was getting into Victim companies and taking control of their ide- specifically eighty s Too many tokens and basically impersonate people within the target organisation to cloud services. That they're being federated's is so in other words in a boil. This dallas allows the attacker. I could get into your organization. Takeover your eightieth as them and then impersonate anyone within your company to your office. Three sixty five where to your your work day and You know so then have access to your email or whatever else was available through this cloud services so maybe you could take us through the the anatomy of that. It's not gonna think. I hit a fifty thousand foot level. But there's more to it. I i think you did a good job of summarizing. Some the high level stuff and i think of it from going to say four different perspectives relevant to me and i think that they'll be relevant to many of our listeners. Here the first thing i think about is i. When you touched on that you know. I you know any company that creates software. That's going to be used by. Other companies becomes a potential way into those companies. And i worked for an organization that's used by Some very significant enterprises. And and i can imagine a bad guy saying that'd be a good way to get in so what happened to solar winds becoming the back door into their customers is is highly important and worth A very significant amount of investment to ensure that you know my organization and whoever else is listening to your organizations are also you know not not the The back door that mule into those companies. Then the second element to that. That's interesting to me is through this process. There's been some other rumors. And i don't need to get into the specific rumors but of other companies that that may have been maybe even the way into the solar winds and and whether they were not. It's not really. The point is the fact that they could have been and we all need to be looking at things like tools in our st l. c. in any any code pipelines. You have to say well. How do you know that tool that. You're trusting to check that the binary hasn't changed a. How do you know that that tool itself isn't compromised in each component. Along the way in need to have going to the to the thing we're gonna talk about later. You need to have zero trust in those things that does not appropriately earned right start from the assumption zero trust. That is So that that's the second area that i've i've thought a lot about is is getting getting smarter. And how do we make sure we're doing the right things. In our in our code pipelines The third one the is for everyone listening right you. You talked about once. The bad guys are in the environment and to be fair. It doesn't matter if they got in using the solar winds vulnerability if they got in by you know account takeover or it's an insider threat questions once they're in. What do they do. Well you talked a little bit about what they did. And i'll break it down into a few points Do number one they tried to get access to your private signing key so this is just like security one oh one your private signing key is should not just be sitting a raw a file system for your federation server to read it. It should be you know. I in a an hsa or some other cryptic safe environment The you can only get to appropriately and and frankly win it is accessed. There should be some kind of monitoring for how it's accessed and alerting on that. So they got in. They stole the key. Or let's let's say you happen to have done a good job putting it in. Hsm and they. They couldn't get to the key. What could they do instead. Could they do. They have administrative rights on the box. Well there is. There is a in this situation. Folks who got who had the key protected would see the attacker go onto the box and actually alter the running binary of the federation server so now they own that binary they can do whatever they want with it and that of course is a is a risk of as well that needs to be looked at. How do you do that. Will once again traditional security controls right making sure that the right folks only that the wrong folks. she's me can't get access to it. And and you know things like file integrity monitoring on those boxes to look for any changes and detect if anything inappropriate happens and then the last element of that. That's that's really interesting is signals of people standing up new federation servers. And if you're standing up a new federation server man that should that should be aligned in your in your ticketing system and we should have alerts in place to let us know that that's happening. So a series of those are four different. Oh sorry there. That's three the fourth one that i have to think about from my perspective is ensuring that i'm doing the right things on on my own corporate environment right like all these things we just talked about is not just for my customers where i have to help them. And and ensure our products are configured to make them successful. Also need to make sure an internally. We're doing the right things and work closely with my partners to do that. And can say. I'm comfortable that we weren't impacted and all that good stuff but there's always room and we're all we're always looking to get better. I mean the the private signing key parts comes to mind. I think probably for most sources that seems like eighty s was talked about a lot with this attacking obviously s something that a company would be hosting themselves if they had a cloud base Adp solution with this still. Be an issue. While you're all you're doing is you're consolidating the the risk right which is not to say that that's not better age it just depends but you're you're taking it from having every individual enterprise having to to secure against that to having a one place where were the bad guys would go to to try and compromise although signing keys. So yeah i. It doesn't eliminate it but it certainly changes the risk. So i find an interesting about the whole deal l. modification and. I don't know if enough people know about exactly how that works. Is that something that that you could. Maybe detailed but more on So i i don't have the forensic details on exactly what changes they made the but the intel was shared on that was the bad guys are getting in there and changing the running federation server to one that they had changed. Some binary could they could make the federation server issue amid tokens according to their desire versus versus the traditional path. Rob was the you kind of talking about that The abstract implications of the development pipeline. What are some of the best practices that maybe all talk specifically about so wins but some best practices and processes that can help prevent something like this. Because i would imagine that if you have proper checks and balances you're less likely to fall prey to something like this. Yeah i think every step of the way you know. Having good effective security controls would have stopped this and any and east starting off with The solar winds impacted to solar winds organization customers. They if you had solar winds sitting on one box in isolation with you know what in once you know the application running on. That box was was compromised. They couldn't actually get anything. You've just limited the impact of that now. The problem is solar winds is a is a network monitoring tool that's going to have rights within your organization to to see you know every every network segment because it's because it's looking for all your assets across the organization Many it organizations a result will not really put least privilege in place. They'll say hey i. It tool let's use this. Maybe sometimes it's even a domain admin account to run it and and once the solar winds system itself is back doored. It's able to get a lot more rights it needed and it uses those to pivot internally right so having appropriate segmentation so even if solar winds was popped. All they're going to do is be able to see the inventory of your of your network like that's bad enough but it would have stopped them from being able to pivot over to your eighty servers right. So there's there's a esscalation point this first and foremost and then you say okay. Well let's say let's just say that you know we did have too high a control or cbi to hire an account running solar wind. So they're now able to to impersonate a domain admin and get onto our federation server with that. Well there should be some kind of detective controls in place on that federation server to to stop you from or not to stop you but to detect win. Someone's logging in and what they're doing and if you have the appropriate monitoring in place it should raise an alarm that someone's making changes to your system outside of a change control ticket. Good good good practices in change. Control and asset management would prevent the vast majority of this and. I think you know anyone. Who's been doing this for awhile. Knows that those are incredibly hard. It's actually a pretty big ask to have those things done. Well across your enterprise as iran of something that you see a lot of which is that organizations feel like lori while the this utility is as as berg very high powered service account at that you mentioned domain adnan such it just makes me cringe every time i hear that you know. Potentially we're creating a service account and putting them into domain atmos group. So i i would imagine that kind of words of the wise would be you know question back us the least privileged model where where possible and i think it just goes to the posture of if you don't have if you don't have a a standard upfront. That says here's how we are going to provision these new servers when they come in and and security is handing the i team. This is the way we want you to do it. The i team's just going to look for the path of least resistance. You know what the fastest way to make it. Work wa if. I use this domain admin account it just works right. I i never have any problems whereas if i'm using this this you know. Solar winds limited accounts man. I keep getting these errors. Not getting all the data i need. It's a struggle. So you really have to be proactive. In order to to to fight against that path of least resistance being challenging on those of questions around you know. I feel like a lot of time. It comes down to application teams developers. Who say okay. Well here's how we've quoted our application and they didn't go to the effort of splitting out. What permissions they actually need. Just say what is god rights on on whatever machine it is or whatever system is so that thing will work i think challenging that back to software vendors and other folks who we know who are putting things environment makes a lotta sense to make sure that you don't get stuck in this well everyone if everyone's a domain admin high supposed to protect it and especially if they're an application like solar winds where it's doing the things that you wanted to do trying to detect anomalous behavior might be difficult because of what is designed to do just makes it even that much harder. Yeah i think this just goes back to having a level of maturity and your in your it program that that many companies don't and investing in that and you know my my motto for security for years has been security cannot be any better than the it organization that is supporting also goes hand-in-hand with the architecture of that environments but if you just try and slap on a mature security program to an immature it program. You're you're gonna fail miserably. Everyone's gonna hate each other along the way. Yeah and i think Just a pivotal bit too. I think this is something that we commonly in the cloud and different infrastructures platforms as a service. Right whether it's aws azure jcp. Is you know a lot of people end up with more permission that they need there and can do far more damage than they probably realize. You know if if they know what they're doing That's something that we see quite a bit With the folks that we're talking with. I'm just curious if you see inexperienced that same issue with you know some of the things that you're working on the the lift and shift is at the the problem here and just too many permissions right from mack roles are not well defined or scoped. Yeah i actually. I feel like those might actually be the same thing The lifting shift and the too many permissions because it. It is a a lack of understanding of the difference between your traditional data center environment. And how you know for example. Aws works and you know it's so easy just to to say. Hey you know we've we've got we're lennox admins. We know how to use our private keys froth indication. Let's just keep doing that. And and not really understand how you know. Go moving to I am roles within that environment can increase your security and increase your usability At the same time. And frankly make it so that when you when you have turnover you know your risk from a from a stability perspective is a lot better as well. Because you're these folks who have these keys on their their their laptop and maybe they took them to their home laptop along the way as well. You get rid of a lot of that risk a ticket. The cloud that ceases are experiencing new challenges. Not just the cloud but also devops. It's it's a ground shifted. It's changing the idea. Said of having you know servers you have these New new whole new ways of doing infrastructure. Things like that using docker. And what i feel like i'm hearing a lot of she says and from you know i emphasise what. We need to remain agile. We need the ability to move fast. Ceases don't want to be the note apartment right. They don't want to be the the quote unquote progress prevention department. I kinda feel like developers need to be empowered to kind of move at the fast paced that they're being demanded to move by the business and at the same time information security has to ensure that proper controls are being put in place and so. I'm wondering i'm assuming you kind of deal with trump as well right. Obviously you have to stay on the cutting edge of this technology but at the same time you've got so many pieces through secure. What do you think about empowering developers through kind of move forward them with a framework the letting them have some control over security and at the same time learning in that watchdog rare. Yeah i think it goes back to that earlier comment architecture and it's making the they paved road the secure road. 'cause people people want to go down whatever the easiest path is and and they want it to be secure just to be clear. There's i i've never met a developer. Who who wants to release insecure a low quality product However you know they also need to get out by a certain date and how do we. How do we make sure that we're accomplishing both of those things. It's going to take it. It's gonna it's gonna take the security team working with whatever architecture team or development team you've got to to ensure that the the way that's easiest also the way that's the most secure eruptions with your minutes With zero trust. I love how your trusted been garnering. So much attention to me. It's our Net breaches can be caused by persons that we typically trust store people that we think are safe people who are on the inside the firewall What are your thoughts in terms of kind of powell organization. How folks like yourself who manage information security for their organization. How should they be thinking about your trust than and taking what's good from zero said applying it to their existing framework. Yeah i'm i'm a massive fan. As i briefly mentioned that when i was talking about how i got over to paying right zero. Trust is the answer for the question. Okay we'll Network basically doesn't work. So what does well. Zero trust does work. And and i'm i'm i'm really happy to see the the positive trend we've seen especially over twenty twenty over twenty twenty during the pandemic where people are moving that direction. You know the the foundation of it. And i think you guys when we're prepping for this you know said it really well that the It's just about not having trust just because someone on my network right. That's a really nice one sentence summary of what this is about when you get into actually implementing it you realize that. There's a whole bunch of assumptions and challenges built into that ended up. Simple sentence that that mean you have to go a lot deeper in as you know within ping as as i came on board we created our own our own reference architecture. For what zero trust mean to us and and we we call it red corp in our logo is red and and may maybe a play on google beyond corp. It's how how we envision zero trust working for us. And i think that any company that serious about this really has to go create their own reference architecture their own perspective on how you do it the the the starting point is you know at least the way i look at it. There's there's three really important keys number one. You have to lock down the end point. You're connecting from and get into debates with this internally and externally but i firmly believe as long as the the bad guy owns the point. You're connecting they can get access the hypoth- hypothetically you know let's say. Hey i believe and we're gonna use vdi and they can't get anything. They can't download anything. But i tell you that they're you know they're going to be accessing the nuclear launch codes. Well no of course. That's not okay right. Because they see the nuclear launch codes or whatever the the most secure information in the world is an all that all i'm saying is there. Is there every organization has some data that just seeing is bad enough so we need to make sure we've locked down the point that we can trust that when it connects that that's not gonna cause us too much risk second thing is. We need to have a really robust controls around the resource. You're connecting to and whether you think of that is it's your wife or your application security built into the thing itself. It's your access security. Those different elements are critical. Point and then the third point which is where you know where i play. The most is is really highly robust intelligent authentication. That's on a risk basis. Says i have a really high confidence that this is the right person and this person based on their role should have access to this and because of the activity. They've had recently. I'm going to require more or less sign on. I'm going to require require multiple factors and all these different elements so they. Those are the three components. I think of and points Application security or resource security and then the the. Im stack co coming up with your strategy. For how do you cheer these. You know throw for the for these highest level of sensitivity for my data. Well you're going to have to have this much more robust set of controls and we're going to require that it actually be through a vpn. Because because i do want that extra layer or it's going to be you know these four or five other things we can require and for maybe the lower level stuff you know it could be available with with just a using a password. We can choose based on how highly sensitive information as i talked a little bit there. Let me let me come back. Just re cap it off with. I think every organization has to go through that exercise themself to identify what are the most important resources and then start working on a plan. For how did they roll out. Zero trust those most important resources i yet. You touched on the thing. That i was thinking here too because we get asked a lot about you know zero trust and will how do we do it. What's the reference architecture. Look like zero. Trust i. i don't think there really is. It's more the concepts and the ideas that you have to address because every organization is going to have different resources. Different targets different Acceptable levels of risk. Right all that stuff and sure you need. Probably some technologies right to be able to accurately identify users. And make sure that you're getting the right signals to be able to make authentication decisions and things like that. But i think that's i'm glad you brought that last point because they feel like there really isn't a one size fits all right. It's it's more of the concept of than taking those concepts and applying it to the infrastructure or the organization that you're trying to protect i've now had the opportunity you know talking to different customers and different friends in the industry to see dozens of different companies architecture for zero trust and i've seen a lot of good ones probably more than more than half of them have been pretty good and none of them have been alike now. They've all got their different spin. And and i think it's right. I think it's how it should be because you're just like if asked me what's a good security program look like i'm going to say well. It depends on the company. What is it zero. Trust strategy look like well it depends on the company and you know google did would do such a great service to the industry by publishing their beyond trust papers where they showed the way they did it and i'll just reiterate the really key point to that for me. Was they started by saying what's what's a workload. A workload is a user connecting to a resource. What's a workload. That's high risk to us as a company that we wanna start with and let's secure one workload at a time and over time we're going to be able to get into entire employees off of the vpn and that strategy Really really worked well for them. And i think it would work really well for just about other company. That's thinking about doing this as well. Yeah beyond corporate is is a really great concept. I remember seeing that either denver a few years back where they were present. Twenty sixteen or even twenty seventeen or blades. Ajax came and presented the yep absolutely all right. Well i know. We're coming towards the time but i wanted to do a liberal lightning around and get your gut gut feeling You know no no no holds barred responses to a couple of things that i hear a lot Super brief but user behavior analytics and access management. How did you see those playing out in the. Im space so so. I think it's it's absolutely the key to success. Here is is knowing what normal looks like in being able to bad based on that and you know user the epa and entity behavioral analysis is. A is one side to that. And i think of that as being you know your off indicated run time analysis and the other side of that is the is the pre authentication analysis where we're looking to see. Okay is this. Is this coming from about ip address that we have a pattern of signings from this person. That looks militias. And i think being able to match those two things together. So we go from pre authentication. All the way through your session is super powerful. But you know there are. There are things that are thrown in. That makes us more difficult. We talked about the trends going to the cloud and going to the cloud and not having things in your data center. It really does slow it. It makes us more difficult you have to do. You wanna make people hairpin back through some kind of system to see it anyway. I know you said lightning rounds. All stop talking all right. How about blockchain identity. Where do you see that at the end of this year Can i can i pass i. I'm i'm still looking for a use case at least in the enterprise side. Haven't seen good one yet. But yes feel free to. I'll say i think blockchain is a really neat set of technologies that we haven't yet I haven't seen a lot of things that couldn't have been just been done just as well in a database. all right. my last one here is finished. The sentence if i if i log in and i'm not using mfa. I am what you're probably not you. You're probably you're probably. You're probably from a different country and if you're not using mfa to log in. Yeah you're you're you're lucky that you're still able logging. I would that. I would go with screwed. But that's just me all right so you know you've been super johnson your time. I do want to talk a little bit about this. Identity management day that we can of cheese at the top of the show. I mentioned that it's april thirteenth. The second tuesday april. It is a brand new thing. So if you don't feel like you missed out. Last year is something that has been started by the identity defying a security alliance along with some help from the national cyber security alliance as well. I think this is probably breaking news. It wasn't sure if you're aware of it. Rob but Yeah there's there's a identity management day april thirteenth thoughts. Does that mean. We have to sign in more times that day. What do we do to celebrate that day. Well we've talked about maybe doing a cake in our last episode I think there's a lot of different ways people get involved. There are a few different things that you can do. You can go to identity management day dot org. They have a bank brand spanking new website. Where you can do things like nominee in evangelist of the year or maybe rate a podcast of the year and the im space and i think that would be. You know something that people might be interested in You could do not like an orgy of the year. I know they're looking for content as well for blogging around identity management. And you know maybe doing blog or some sort of video or audio type thing that you know. They're looking to kind of help. Highlight the need for. I m You know maybe that's something that You know people might be interested in go. Check that out any thoughts on being in an evangelist of the year for a friend from an. Im perspective that's fantastic. I i don't think i get to to win that. I don't think i've been a good enough evangelist. But i do think that you know we do. Need these days to to get people to think about this. Kind of behind the scenes the pipes in the walls authentication is is critical for our success. We want to make sure that we're getting better. So i appreciate them putting this together eject jumped last week. We celebrated national pancake day. I think a basic question. Why isn't there an identity management day right another risk by april thirteenth You know. I think we're we're we're trying to figure out. What does that look like for us to show perspective on. How can we helped kind of celebrate that you know. It's it's always great to get recognition. I think the more people that are aware of identity and how important places security you know. I would argue. That identity is at the center in chimps when it comes to security and being able to to know what you're trying to protect so you know i i fully support it jim. I think you know you do too absolutely You know. I think what you're saying rates. It's about raising awareness We're trying to pull more people into this career field. I'll like all of information security. There's more demand than there is talent an identity manson's absolutely no exception is great place to build a career and i'm hoping that there some emphasis on that is like you know. How do we bring more people into the spiel and get excited about it and look at it as a great way to build a career Because there's a there's a lack of lack of talent per se or that's not really you need experience in this field right you bill experience by spending many years in the field and so we have to start bringing new people into the fields of that we star building that talent pipeline for the next decade and beyond hossam. Thank you guys so much for having me on your show it's been it's been a real treat to get you both. Yeah you're join us rob you. That is probably a good spot will go ahead and leave it for this week. reminder don't forget Identity management day. I will have linked the whole bunch of stuff in our show notes and we'll have links to rob's podcast colorado equal security Rob if you're cool that will put a winston connection there for twelve people want to reach out or y- okay with that. I absolutely always happy to connect with folks. Make sure you put a note in there. So i know you're you're podcast or not a salesperson not not a lot not someone trying to sell a leads or anything like that you know. Get plenty of those All right well if that will go ahead and call it for this week you can visit us on the web at identity at the center dot com. Gotta handy handiwork there as well for identity management day and you can find us on twitter at the. Id ac podcasts. And with that. Thanks rob for joining us. Jim thanks for your time as well and we'll talk with y'all in the next one. Thanks guys thanks for listening to the identity at the centre podcast. You like what you heard. Don't forget to subscribe visit us on the web. 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"Let me my clothes now said Robert. I'm sorry replied the dentist mother. We're going to keep your clothing tonight. She can pick them up sometime tomorrow. Can you comprehend the shot. Robert's mother received when the door the waiting room opened opened and there stood her. Pink Son is naked as the day he was born. The room was filled with patients. Robert and his mom walked past them into the hall then went down a public elevator into the parking lot ignoring the snickers occurs of onlookers. The next day Robert's mother returned to retrieve as close as to have a word with a dentist however she did not come to protest. These were her sentiments. You don't know how much I appreciate what happened here yesterday. You See Robert has been blackmailing me about his clothes for years. Whenever we are in a public place such as grocery store he makes unreasonable demands of me? And if I don't immediately by him what he wants he's ready to take off all of his clothes. You're the first person who has called his bluff doctor and the impact on Robert has been incredible. I use that story in a sermon. Many years ago my youngest son it was about six or seven. He listened intently and over lunch. He said to me Daddy was was the dentist. Assistant men or women saw saw after all of this after the initial ultimate statement of rejection finally comes around round and says what he should have said at the very beginning verse twenty for I have sinned and and disobeyed your instructions. And the Lord's command. I was afraid the people and I did what they demanded you idiot. Saul you fool fearing what men say. When God what is so clearly declared your responsibility no wonder verse Twenty Six reads with the Lord has rejected you from being? I speak today with a pleading voice to those of you who still have the responsibility of little ones. I speak not only to parents terrence on some occasions here to grandparents. It isn't an easy task but is an essential one. No one believes more in the love of a home than I do. I'll take love over any other act in any of life life but there were times when true of is tough love. And you have to do what you have been putting off or resisting are being blackmailed. Out of when you finally see the truth otherwise you release to society a Munster Mr. No one else has the authority you have over the child when the child is small under the roof of your home the caught can change. The mind of your child only can punish wrongdoing. The teacher can do very every little especially in our day. You Deposit your child in the care. That teacher school cannot resurrect with the home puts to death. You have a responsibility and I plead with you as the seeds are sown in your home. I had the time I could tell you. Stories from my own wife for my mother in dead refused to give up on me a rebel and refuse refused to give up on my sister and my brother. All of us song will beyond belief people who know us now now was adults all want to know what kind of mother and Dad we had. I will say this. They were consistent. So I say on the basis of that having been raised right but the grace of God which I did not deserve. Share these closing three points regarding Childhood Hood Adolescence and adultery. And I'm through in childhood. Get this get this down in childhood. A rebellious values nature is conceived in a hold where parents relinquish control a rebellious. This nature is conceived in a home where parents relinquish control but I mean you allow your child the role of already already. He or she is not equipped to handle. Child has not made to be an authority the role of the parent if it is not dealt with at that level. The child doesn't stop growing no as a matter of fact he reaches Adolescence Adolescence. Since and they're a rebellious spirit is cultivated even further among peers. Who have learned to resist assist control and been allowed to do so you see rebels run with rebels invariably my choice of friends friends when I was younger? Were those who loved to rebel. Invariably mother would point that out every time you are with those two boys you get into trouble every time and I'm going to tell you you were going to stop running with them. She headways of changing my habits Of running with the wrong crowd by the way I discovered early in the Marine Corps. That a I had very little learn regarding discipline from a drill instructor because I learned it from a mother and father but I was surrounded by young men wearing the same uniform who lived under the constant constant harassment of a drill instructor doctor because they never learned to obey earlier in life. I'll tell you girl instructors. No I'll tell you. We'll go on to adult adulthood. Get this a rebellious. Life is crushed by the Lord when he finally gains control yes. The word is crushed. A rebellious I live is ultimately crushed by the Lord when he finally gained control. It can happen in a prison. It can happen after several divorces it can happen in a court room can happen to the humiliation of children who ultimately turn and tell you to your face. You never disciplined as a should have been disciplined. That's very very very difficult thing for a child to forgive the reason I share that with you is because of a statement. I learned years ago when God wants to do an impossible impossible task he takes an impossible person and crushes him some of you being crushed by the Lord. He W so you'd toast. They're putting it in other. Words is doubtful God can use any of us greatly until he has hurt US deeply. Some of you are making your home miserable because you were stubborn and you are proud of it. You say it's in your genes yeah it's called depravity. You excuse it because your daddy was like that or your family operated like that it is wrong it is as the sin of witchcraft. It it is as bad as idolatry until you face it you deal with it and when you deal with it it is remarkable. It is remarkable. What harmony can come all the scars notwithstanding? We're now living not in the sixties sixties but in an era when we have to say rebellion is a lifestyle. It's more ugly today than it's ever been crimes. Crimes are committed without conscience there without a motive increasingly more criminals. Simply want to see you hearst as they assault you more defiant more violent more aggressive than I've ever known it in my almost eighty years on this planet. The only way I know to address it is to speak of it to those. I love the most that would be this. Flock would to God that we as a body of people would become known as those who love to obey God whose lives are marked by affection and love for one another but where necessary discipline of wrongdoing those two things when balanced create immaturity like little else I can think of. It may begin for you at the across. You Stop Resisting Christ and submit to him. Please about your heads with me. Sit Very quietly for a few moments. Ever been a time in your life when you intentionally submitted did your will to Christ and you release the throne of your life to him and you acknowledge your own sinfulness uh and took the gift that he has provided for. You ever been a time like that. No wonder you can't conquer Hawker your rebellion. Much of it goes back to that for you. The most important decision you can make turn your life over to Christ. Let us help you connect with us. You may be a parent and you have to acknowledge I live has gotten too busy. Your responsibilities have become too many and you've left off the most important that is rearing child and the way you should go. Today's the data repent days the day to acknowledge edge. And if you're living with your partner to say to your mate you went on. I have to take care of this. Starting now. It could be that this has nothing to do with children. You may have begun to relinquish your role of authority and let others take charge. Who have no business taking over? Disharmony is happening. The company is coming apart. And you haven't had the backbone to stop it. Today's the data start today. Our Father Father Never wants today. We use the word. Easy or simple life is in fact complicated and as age stacks. What's up the simplicity? Flies out the window. We're living complicated lives. We're too busy. We're moving in too fast reflecting on the wrong things and ignoring the right things. We have come face to face with the reality. Not Even sacrifices are more pleasing to you than obedience. Submission is better than any offering. Forgive us very rebellion father. Maybe we no longer look past in rationalize around are stubborn nature. You'll be face it and having acknowledged maybe repent of it income to you on the place our wills before working and before those with whom living bring back the harmony that was once part of a home and whatever Irv this message addresses to me. Get my attention. I dear father now to him who is able to guard us from stumbling and present US faultless. Before the presence of his glory with exceeding great joy to the only wise God our Savior Lori And Majesty and opinion in power now and forever through. Christ Amen Convicting application coming from this remarkable encounter between Samuel and Kings Saul. Today's message from Chuck Swindle is titled Titled Stop Resisting and Start Submitting and this is insight for living to learn more about this ministry. Visit US online at insight world dot Org Org as you heard checks closing application and as you joined him in prayer. Perhaps you resolve to stop resisting God's presence and start submitting thing to his plan to help you in this regard let me point you to a daily devotional that'll help. It's a book. Chuck has written called Faith for the journey daily. Meditations ends on courageous trust in God by reading a short chapter every day. Chuck's Devotional Book Will Keep Your Heart. In God's Word Throughout Twenty Twenty you'll find all the details for purchasing a copy at insight dot org slash offer just for a moment think back many years ago when you first heard insight insight for living is possible. You've been following Chuck's teaching for five ten twenty years or more in the early days. Perhaps you had little financial natural margin because of the demands of rearing a young family during that season. It was the generous giving of others. That made it possible for you to hear Chuck's teaching today today. You're likely in a stronger position. We'll let me encourage you to step forward and become one of our monthly companions of grace by giving a monthly donation. In the amount of your choice you can do for someone else what others did for you in the early days and January is the perfect time to start a new discipline generosity if you're listening in the United States here's the number to call one eight hundred seven seven to eight hundred eighty eight. You can also sign up online at insight insight dot org slash monthly companion. If you prefer you can give a one time donation if you're listening in the United States style one. Eight hundred seven seven seven to eighty eight eighty eight or online goto insight dot org slash monthly companion. Join US again Monday. When Chuck's went all talks about the virtue of vulnerability right here on insight for living the preceding message? Stop resisting and start. 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Trump's defense team am appeal to the Senate Tuesday to disregard a new account by John. Bolton that bolsters the impeachment case against the president that from the New York Times they a report by days and Republican leaders indicated they had not corralled the votes they needed to prevent the former national security advisor or other witnesses from coming forward the Times notes on the final day of arguments on toast behalf chase secolo sought to raise doubts. About Bolton's claim cycle colder outsourced allegation that he could tenses dances inadmissible at the impeachment trial. California made me a leader in many areas but overall child well being is not one of them. That's according to a new report. Suzanne Paulo reports for the latest children's report card from the nonprofit children now gives California A grade of C minus overall. We're all the only eighth grade. In the sixteenth. Semi annual analysis is for kids health coverage as only three percent of California. Children remain uninsured children. Now well President Ted Limpert says that's because the state has moved aggressively to cover all kids including those who are undocumented and example. What happens when our state leaders really focused and set a goal and we get there? Almost twenty percent of our kids were uninsured just a couple of decades ago so this has been real progress on that front. Learn how ever the state got a grade of D. Plus for affordable childcare because only fourteen percent of low income families can get their children into state subsidized care the report also notes. That child care workers make very low wages. which has led to a shortage? Gut report also found California ranks among the lowest in the nation on the per pupil spending for K.. Through twelve education as well as a preventative. Health screenings for kids covered by Bene- cow and Kentucky lawmakers are considering reporting an excise tax on e cigarettes sold in the Commonwealth the tax would be equal to the current tax on traditional cigarettes which is one dollar and ten cents per repack Republican Representative Jerry Miller of Louisville is the bills primary sponsor. He points out his colleagues are struggling to come up with the state budget amid the worst projected acted revenue growth in decades largely due to tax cuts. He says House Bill. Thirty two would bring in much-needed state revenue while improving Kentuckians health but but this tax has the added benefit and the primary benefit really of reducing use by young people pregnant mothers to simply because they are double price-sensitive yesterday evening governor. Andy Bashir announced his budget plan for the next two years. According to the latest Kentucky Health Issues Poll three out of four Kentucky the adults approved taxing e cigarettes and vaping products. That bill is now in the Kentucky House Appropriations and Revenue Committee. If passed it would take effect as early as August. This is Penis Ohio farmers will be growing hemp. This bring. It is a risky crop. But some pioneers were eager to make it work. The USDA established an interim rule last fall to regulate hemp production. In Ohio was one of the first days to have his head program approved by federal regulators. Hemp is very right. Labor intensive crop typically grown on five acres or less Julie Durand with the Ohio. Hemp Farmers Cooperative Explains Farmers also face somewhat murky regulatory environment and she doesn't think hemp will make much profit at the start. A brand new industry has been growing this plant for more than four years anywhere in the US less so to say that we can just start out and be so strict on these regulations and have to comply with all of these. I just really warn. This is a risky business. The pioneers that are trying to make this work. The rules for help and Ohio are still being written and could be finalized by state. Legislators in the coming weeks growing and processing licenses presences could be available in March just ahead of planting season me. Wally public comment period on the USDA's interim rule and today Mary Sherman reporting this story was produced with original reporting from Maria mcguiness at Kent State a public comment period on the USDA's enor- rule and today the twenty twenty cents is kicks off at about two months a lot on the line for states like Missouri Children Under eighteen account for roughly twenty two percent of all missourians directive says. This is operations. John Shackles says if children are missed in that. Twenty twenty tally. The state will miss out on crucial federal dollars. We don't want people to forget. littlest one's counting. Our children means education childcare roads bridges infrastructure for the next ten years. And we just don't want Missouri's children to be less doubted at national picture. They should wide nearly five percent of kids age. Five were not counted in the lessons. Finally are Mike. Bowen reported some Minnesota Lakes invasive species are or limiting the growth of the Popular Fish University of Minnesota researchers say the culprits are Zebra mussels and spiny water flea. The researchers found in lakes where. They're the president they can reduce the size of Walleye between twelve and fourteen percent. The species takeaways zoo plankton food source. For the fish Geoff Forrester who heads leads. The Group of Minnesota Lakes and rivers advocates says. The findings should spur stronger action by the state to prevent the spread of these species. What we've been doing this kind of emphasis societal educational and personal responsibility? That's not getting it done. I think it's slow the spread but it certainly hasn't stopped it for Sir. Says he'd like to see the state. Adopt more stringent boat inspection policies. Such as making it a requirement for people getting an operator's licence. DDR has forced strong limits for anglers. Some some of those restrictions have been slowly lifted as while I makes a comeback in the popular lick i Mike Clifford for public do service we are member and lister supported and round line minded public service DOT. Org We must. I shed our fearless stand here without fear because remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me but because of the path that lies behind me I remember the one hundred years we have caught these machines and after a century of war. 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I think aggressive categorically aggressive that he did he was talking about W- when it's okay to shoot a cop or something I don't know he did have an article about that When shoot a cop or something like right? Maybe those Larkin roads but Campbell had something similar But he got banned from pork fest. I think because he drove drunk but he didn't threaten anybody. Okay Oh he drove around campground drunk. Yeah Oh that's like half of the Porcupine Freedom Festival I've very few people Miller like actually driving around but like walking around strolling around me. I tell you what's interesting. There's a lot of that at pork fast that And and they're pretty good about it. Is these UNICYCLE. Electric one wheel things. You know what I'm talking about like the guys stand on nominee lean forward and it just drives you around. It's like a electric set. Yeah kind of like segue and now you got the one wheels. I haven't heard of any drunk rex yet. But I'd be more concerned about drunk people riding one wheels and driving a car because you see the car common these one wheel things that guy goes zipping by you know when you're walking around at the middle of the night. They're they're a little scary. Okay so that see. That's can't well at port vessel back to cantwell political prisoner. And forgive me if I was better I wouldn't have to ask you to repeat back to the elements can't well he got arrested for the defined. What makes no political prisoner again? Because I kind of lost that in the beginning already did that. He said a thing that the state says it's illegal for him to say and they arrested him over it so he didn't hurt anybody victim. Despite the fact that people make those sorts sorts of quote threats all day every day on the Internet. You can't play call of duty without someone threatening to rape your wife but those people are getting arrested by the FBI. Now is because of his politics that they targeted him for making exactly the same threat that people make every single day on the Internet. Okay got it now. Now let me make. Are you laugh. So let's compare that to you David. Olson and K. UNM radio station so they WANNA put me in prison for four years they're criminally prosecuting me. Now really so. We're parallel and can't well so far. Yeah and And I and and David Olson Ulsan logo on Google. We'll get you the University of New Mexico. Logo Crime blotter their article that they wrote up in their paper. So I wish I could say I was surprised that you sit around. Could in yourself or are you keep going off on these tangents. If you're involved in a law case and you're being criminally only prosecuted and they wanna put you in prison for four years on four different charges Why why would that person not Google the the the the article the newspaper article printed in the University of New Mexico newspaper that contains their allegations and and stuff like that? Why would somebody not Google goal that I mean you said would you google yourself often? I think. And if you're like you're go apply for a job somewhere. Probably the first thing you're going to do is is Google your name so maybe you should Google your name and see what the kids were gonNA show up. So what are the charges that you're facing. Can you enumerate yeah there to there. Two counts of New Mexico Thirty Dash Twenty Dash Twelve. which is using the telephone into a harass threaten annoy and a couple of other words and then there is a stocking and there is a a old-fashioned harassment? So there's four of them altogether okay. Did you feel like you're not guilty. Well I no I'm not guilty and what I'm what what I wanna do is comparison. Because from what I've heard you do sound like you're stalking these people and probably harass based on how you obsess over them so then is her is can't will stocking in harassing when he threatens to rape a man's wife in front of her children I would say he was harassing but that's not what he's been charged with now he didn't say rape he said the F. Word right yeah okay but see trying it makes some sort of distinction as somehow even though no one even considered whether or not the woman Kasit to this. Somehow it could be consensual. No disregarding the woman's consent is rape sorry right that's rape so yeah. He was starting to write the woman he was never like. Oh by the way if your wife consistent now. Her cassette was irrelevant to arete. So his demeanor was was of array demeanor. Certain land. Okay all right but still. That's not what he's being charged with. He's being charged with making threats across state lines. No no no. He's not making a threat to cross the state line. They're saying that he used in interstate. Form of communication. Haitian literally what I just said making a threat across state lines. Oh okay thank you pointless correction. Yeah thank you. Thank you for the Let's see think of appropriate word. Thank you for the sarcasm. facetious nece. So that's why he's been charged with and the recent his is is. BS is because there's no validity. There's no real chance that the threat is going to be carried out but anybody else would have an easier. Time beat nist in Cantwell. Because can't well. I mean like the people who say that crap in Color Judy and world of warcraft. They're breaking being exactly the same lawless can't well I mean he could go in front of a jury and a jury. Could you know everybody just guys total a hole and you know not. I don't WanNa let him go. I mean he's got US got himself in a sticky situation right the tobacco come back to what he did. I agree the a political prisoner on previous experiences. What they give them some sort of notoriety the ticket and The bed arrest him on something that other people don't stop notoriety every day and don't get drafted and therefore that would improve your. I'm ANA thing I I agree with all that you think that that team Out David Smith it up got got fifteen seconds. This has been pretty top-five head on over to FREETALKLIVE DOT COM takeout. Me Show archives hub at more than ten years again. That's FREETALKLIVE DOT com exact same time tomorrow ever on Free Talk Live. We're bringing people to the Free State Project Has Reached its goal of Twenty Thousand Liberty Lovers who've pledged to move to New Hampshire and get active to achieve liberty in our lifetime. Perhaps you're trying to figure out what part of New Hampshire should be your destination. 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Bolton that bolsters the impeachment case against the president that from the New York Times they report by days and Republican Republican leaders indicated. They had not corralled the votes they needed to prevent the former national security advisor or other witnesses from coming forward the Times notes on on the final day of arguments on trump's behalf J. Secolo sought to raise doubts about Bolton's claim Secolo colder sourced allegation that he contends his inadmissible will at the impeachment trial. California made me a leader in many areas but overall child well being is not one of them that's according to a new report. Suzanne Palmer father reports the latest children's report card from the nonprofit children now gives California A grade of C minus overall the only eighth great in the sixteenth semiannual analysis is for kids health coverage as only three percent of California. Children remain uninsured children now. President Ted Lemper says says that's because the state has moved aggressively to cover all kids including those who are undocumented anything example what happens when our state leaders really focused and set a goal and we get there. Almost twenty percent of our kids were uninsured just a couple of decades ago so this has been real progress on that front however the State got got a grade of D. Plus for affordable childcare because only fourteen percent of low income families can get their children into state subsidized care. The report also announced that childcare workers make very low wages which has led to a shortage got report also found California ranks among the lowest in the nation on per pupil spending K.. Through twelve as well as a preventative. Health screenings for kids covered by Medicare and took lawmakers are considering putting an excise tax hacksaw e cigarettes sold in the Commonwealth. The tax would be equal to the current tax on traditional cigarettes which is one dollar and ten cents per pack Republican Representative Representative. Jerry Miller of Louisville is the bills primary sponsor. He points out. His colleagues are struggling to come up with the state budget amid the worst projected revenue growth in decades doc gates largely due to tax cuts. He says House Bill. Thirty two would bring in much-needed state revenue while improving Kentucky inns health but this tax has has the added benefit and the primary benefit really of reducing use by young people pregnant mothers to simply because they are more price sensitive yesterday yesterday evening governor Andy Bashir announced his budget plan for the next two years according to the latest Kentucky Health Issues Poll three out of four Kentucky adults approved taxing axeing East cigarettes and vaping products. That bill is now in the Kentucky House Appropriations and Revenue Committee. If passed it would take effect as early as August. This this is P. S. Ohio farmers will be growing hemp this spring. It is a risky crop. Years are eager to make it work. The USDA established an interim rule last fall to regulate hemp production. In Ohio was one of the first days to have hemp program approved by federal regulators. Hemp is very labor intensive crop typically grown on five acres or less Julie Durand with the Ohio. Hemp Farmers Cooperative Explains Farmers also face as somewhat murky regulatory environment and she doesn't think hemp will make much profit at the start. It's a brand new industry. No one has been growing this plant for more than four years anywhere in the. US So to say hey that we can just start out and be so strict on these regulations and have to comply with all of these. I just really warn. This is a risky business. And where the pioneers that are. I'm trying to make this work. The rules for Ohio are still being written and give you finalized by state. Legislators in the coming weeks growing and processing licenses could be available in March march just ahead of planting season me. Wally public comment period on the USDA's interim rule. And today Mary Sherman reporting this story was produced with the original original reporting from Maria mcguiness at Kent State a public comment period on the USDA's inner a rule today. The twenty twenty cents is kicks off at about two months a lot on the line for states like bizarre children under eighteen. A cow roughly twenty two percent of all missourians directive says its operations. John Cycle all says if children are missed in that. Twenty twenty tally. The state will miss out on crucial federal dollars. We don't want people to forget. littlest one's counting. Our children mean education and childcare roads bridges infrastructure for the next ten years. We just don't want Missouri's children to be less doubted at national picture. They should wide nearly five percent of kids under age. Five were not counted in the Leci- finally are Mike. Bowen reports at some Minnesota Lakes invasive species are limiting the growth of a popular Popular Fish University of Minnesota researchers say the culprits are Zebra mussels ends binding wonderfully the researchers found that legs. Where their present they can reduce the rose size of wildlife between twelve and fourteen percent? The species takeaways zoo plankton. A food source. For the fish Geoff Forrester. WHO has the Group of Minnesota lakes and rivers advocates says? The findings should spurs stronger action by the state to prevent the spread of these species. What we've been doing this kind of emphasis on educational missile a personal responsibility? That's not getting it done. I think it's slow the spread but it certainly hasn't stopped it for says he'd like to see the state. Adopt more stringent vote inspection inspection policies such as making a requirement for people getting an operator's licence the DNR has enforced strong limits for anglers some of those restrictions have been slowly lifted as so while I make a comeback in the popular lake. I'm Mike Clifford for public news service. We are member lister supported and Ron Line at public service dot the white cheese. We must I shed our fear of it then here without fear because I remember I remember that I am here. Not Because of the path that lies before me but because of the path is behind me I remember that one hundred years we have caught up these machines and after a century of law I remember that matters. Let us make them remember. Doc veered and appeared on radio and declare your independence. Amir's cocker from the B.. A DEPOT STUDIOS FREEZER PHOENIX. Who We're going to ask more fun than cripes on with another language of liberty batch batch for us to talk to now you guys got the light behind you that light behind you just makes y'all silhouette you know if you guys can put the camera on the other side lied and we're the light is on your face then it'd be a lot easier to make it out about what we should just turn the camera there? There you go there you go all right here. Okay okay. Yeah they they can flip. The light switch is so that's good we're going to do is going cripe. He's all right. Tell your experience you've got to understand what's going on now Glenn you'll you'll help me out when I get something wrong here. Okay Okay Glynn is part of a discussion group that I would go to every month like nine months at a year. And and then those liberty movement here and the doctors and lawyers and judges and think tanks and everybody. That's Kinda you know. We prefer some more your freedom well Glenn inspired by. I'm sure his own upbringing and that he's a freedom guy and he goes retired. got a little bit Milo. Do something for the home country and his family you know as ancestors is grandparents and so on from Slovakia. Slow something Slovakia. Hi got it right okay. So he goes. Yeah you know they do a bit murkier. A little bit of freedom. A bit of the English version Judeo Christian Christian Western style of the famous writers. John Locke Adam Smith Jefferson kind of thing that would have a big impact on these people coming out from behind the curtain. You know a little bit more. They don't have that culture that heritage in recent generations. We're GONNA go to the young and expose them the ideas of Oguz. What there's this individual? Thanks and you own yourself and peace be upon the and everything goes from there and they like really. Let's talk about it. So that's S.. Language of liberty is in English so when we had a lot of these people they come here and we'll interview them and I'll go all look at Phoenix man. We translate into thirty nine languages. You've got Nagel. Google Caveman Talk. We speak English. Ernie I go okay. Well there's that so so now. The Language of Liberty English comes from now so they've had a lot of batches from around the world of people that have come here people that had been on the edge with their countries threatened with death and damnation if they come back because they had a picture of them fire k. forty-seven Arizona whereas legal and you are not allowed to inspire the feminist women of our country and you did documentary near so free not allowed all right guys that was from the paw then we got guys from Venezuela and he was advocating for freedom and Madurai also advocating freedom. Nomo and he said you know what you come back here. We got we got self night. I think I wanNA stay in Mirka so this is been very interesting following Glenn in this people that are getting this information then you have like application process for them to pick a team that would go and do different things. So how far off am I Glen Fillon gaps on there and explain it to the people. Yeah no that's good thank you thanks a lot. We've been so far we've gone to thirty countries we've had more than seventy five programs. Most of them are five day sort of conference. We call call it liberty camp or liberty. English can't in some countries so we don't use the word liberty because we get in trouble so we call it something like entrepreneurship camp camp or use opportunity to get in trouble. What kind of trouble liberty a bad word you know? They don't like the screen statue or something. I mean what are you talking about her. Yes in places like Ethiopia uh-huh Pius the danger is not so much too but his to our local partners into our students all so so we sort of a marketing issue you because the content we actually gives them what we actually discuss this pretty much the same everywhere. So when you say entrepreneurship you know even your most commie socialist the regime of whatever. They're going entrepreneur. That means like these like money right. The demands make us. We just had a gentleman has A. It's called uptrend uptrend with two ends up trend. You know for those on the concede Switzer here that up trend is a website that is really remade. For crypto discuss. Read it but it's becoming a social media thing but it pays people to provide content. And he goes. There are people by our standards out there making ten bucks a day on this. I mean nothing but when they're making two dollars a day and all of a sudden there are ten dollars a day. We're rich okay. So so this is totally changed entrepreneurship from you've had guys coming in from Nigeria. I remember talking to people in Africa. And they're screaming screaming. Stop sending US aid. You know this the rich guys in the politicians get it all we get screwed even more and you're giving them resources to screw us. quit giving US money because he coming to us that kind of thing. So yes. Plus destroys the lurk. It's this is this is just a an understanding. Seen that a lot of people around the world are starting to get. Are these guys you know. What is it that they're learning and introduce them and give us a kind of a spread on which countries his? Name's just go around the room there were you Glenn. Sure Well I. I want to introduce that Tom. Jacob who you know we visited us in Arizona. An yeah so you see him. Let me see. Here's luckily face him probably don't recognize it as much upside down. But you know it's it's good to see you again. The Tom Rudy drove down from Switzerland and they are with us for a few days. And I'll introduce another person you. Yeah no mirror. She was in product Arizona. Two thousand eighteen sentence. I last. What country were you from from? Remind me Ukraine you know you got a lot of Ukrainians. They represented Poland Ukrainian and Russia. You know they're they're definitely always on the list. Oh eight wow man. You're like old now. You know so you know. Are you started you were like a teenager early. Twenty years I was longtime ago. Yes have been now. You're a decade later. And how was your experience changed you. Oh really for these. Two years really changed a lot like not only I gats more used to these all staff connected to the 'em in these camps and so on but also I changed a lot in my life. I moved to another city and now I am. Aw more into a libertarian unity. If I can say so. Because I've been to two more entrances and to to more liberty camps and now I am one of the people at my university Wiz in many issues connected to the university. I can see so by students so it gives me a possibility. To implements more libertarian ideas. Like what what how. What are you university faculty? Here's up then you're talking about I'm talking about when you are like in university. Government is students who community and are able to make rules and lowest at the university. On what your interface with them. Are you a student or are you a teacher. You just visit what I'm doing my master's degree Arista and still a student but on the last year of education and also you have a community you built on campus Jessil You're in trouble now. Thirteen to do you have an opportunity to get on a list. If you're going to be on the list beyond top of the list it's safer there will be more with language of Liberty Glenn Cripe and his students when we come back. We'll be right back. I from the third letter of Captain. Mark the Crowns Observation Survey Shin conditions us to be dishonest with ourselves. Therefore constant surveillance produces a society of constant deception. Honest communication is the seat of civilized conduct to deny us. The Sea is to deny us. It's fruits but the crowns primary objective is stifled rethought itself to make it. Subjects subjects incapable of dissent season pirates have always encrypted messages and codes and ciphers to intercept transmissions were incomprehensible but today the crown possesses a band tools pattern recognition that document profile an predict our every move today piracy requires hailing frequencies completely -pletely invisible to the crown. We are tired of poltergeist in the static looking for a community of like minded scoundrels or just want some swag to let the crown know what you think of it. Join the conversation at PIRATESWITHOUTBORDERS DOT com. This is Michael Dean from the Freedom Teens. 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We'll do it when we get back. Well we're going to do is I want to get introduced to each one of them real quick and so who who do I have here Glenn. Okay okay this is Lucas from Georgia republic. Luca shoot hush. Hush released not bad. How Sir Lucas not? I have a lot more confidence anyway. All right so Luca from the Georgia ordure republic. This is interesting. How did you come across these guys? How'd you know about why did you? What uncle coach or employer Moore employer parent? Grandma made you to wear you even gave a crap about liberty. You also start off with that. Okay so is your start to the end of the day. So here's what our candidate Christine Push. Oh who started ended. I knew this inserting Georgia okay. This summer can five days. The issues was like international politics. Stand this kind of stuff and use Georgia social activities. Not only and I was kind of exterior in the. Yes the deep the liberty like this decision right away and zero project. They were good friends. Yes we discussed a little things Included Liberty Ideas Retiree Anisim the example of Poland blinky garage project so on so on and these He shared the dink. Obligation link of Liberty can be touches the nineteen. So I'm here. Now do my best to okay. So so what is it you do. I mean you're how old are you. Twenty two twenty two. Are you still in school. I studied I studied. Oh okay okay. So you're still studying all you're going to be a lawyer and what country okay I'm tending to the to be honest. I'm not sure for I because this this project is kind of has has huge impact on me so I think I'm GonNa Change my future career to make some money. The business you got some contacts you got an infrastructure of people around the world will make some money you about making some money. Is it all about my view on this island to make a change changed to Miami but okay so is focuses a change to what to mention that my controversial to give to improve both okay and Georgia. You don't think it is on the Liberty Bandwagon yet. You want to create one. You want to do it. What Okay I went to participate in the Liberty Movement and I'm GONNA participate in the conference until October in the but to me. There's no interest for liberty so this kind of women's and later on we'll see I as a good introduction. We have this last season. We had a gentleman element from north of Moscow. And what was the big town anyway. He had a newspaper AMD Putin and like it too much now it was not it. Wouldn't flattering so you know he gets targeted and that kind of stuff happens and yet. Oh Man I'm GONNA or more no wrong. Get me some Putin. WHOA WE'RE GONNA change through through politics? I'm like I think you better off you do it through business make money has some influence. It's good to see that you guys are getting the right influences on in this and see it's not just about making money. It's about the freedom to make money you know and how you can do it. Go ahead and give me another one glen. This go through the line here. Thank you thank you. Hi Carly drill man. Where are you from? How did you find out about this? Why did you come and what do you plan on doing with the information from Washington cares about you a year from spokane? So you're afraid what the accent I was Gonna get okay so spokane Washington and you're in Europe on this how well so. I'm also on the board of Directors of Liberty International which is kind of the parent organization under which you have language Liberty Student Project Arizona. So I've been on the board for almost three years. Now try to build the organization it got to know Glenn through that work. He invited me to get involved with language of Liberty Institute so this is the second event that I've attended the first. I was a liberty campaign of Gonda earlier this year. And it's really my passion to spread Libertarian ideas as a teacher about liberty and teach about capitalism all around the world so That's what I do in in the last year. I've spoken in Mongolia Let's see where else Mongolia Uganda Columbia we're GONNA and that next couple. We're going to do a tour of Colombia where vice as we're GONNA do day-long Libertarian seminars. Really focusing around Venezuelan crisis. Which I'm really involved in because I I'm going out over and over again? Provided medical care to refugees very cool. Well this is what Glenn's been doing in the tack that he took and of course Horsey knows. See you're talking about ice international society for individual liberty and then it got turned to something else because they did. I don't care anyway the thing is I know it is isolated. They're being just get over but the point is this organization when Glenn started doing this of course he knows all these guys and so on them. Now we're good friends with Ken School and and so on so I'm going all right. You see what he was doing and the young minds and the a type personalities that he was having an influence on in their country. Because we've gone on through this. We talked to these guys sometimes regularly every year or so and they go on over the years. They have a big impact in their community. And all of a sudden you got two three four or five type activist but kicking and Kiev man. You have an impact can see international. You guys going. ooh You WANNA play with. y'All this won't being trying to do for decades Glenn's doing it and you know a few years and you WANNA help. I can see how it benefits you as Glenn Been An impact on your organization. Do More of this Kinda youth-oriented stop. Oh I think so absolutely you know. Liberty International has been around for a long time but recently has really struggle. Because we've kind of had had our previous program's Kinda got a little and so we've been working on Really finding our niche and finding our mission and Glenn's really helped us look back because our inches educating young people about liberty and so this is this is the direct work of doing that and It's it's going to be the basis of wish we liberty international backup to the large large organization that it once was because because these important verstraeten libertarian ideas in every corner of the globe. Now no we've made use of it. You can hook us up with translators in Moscow to translate late into Arabic the philosophy of liberty animation. You know that when we did that we put three four thousand. DVD's Career Square in Egypt. And we're just going up during Arab spring you guys. Let me tell you what you're fighting about self ownership put that up in it went boom. They go what what the hell just happened. See I'm telling you man is to youth and you just give them the philosophy it's infectious so I'd be. I'd be paying attention to the kind of work that Glenn's doing you guys should should be like a hip and and stuff. You guys helping you helping. Absolutely we've got a bunch of acres. Yeah for sure. Okay no this is a seat. It's the right people. I I take any one of my free Phoenix readers up against ten thousand of anybody anybody else. It's you know it's the knowledge. It's the presentations to confidence that they get in their own language throughout Europe the stuff that Glenn's been doing and the students and that's more impact on the entire continent of Europe. Then I don't know anything else I can think it's getting them at the route with the youth. You just he's infectious ideas of self ownership. I know what's going to happen. Why we pay attention? 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Oh I know who that guy you all right so what I WANNA know if we have a gentleman up now his name is Adam atom atom secret last name from Hungary one buddies willing to come on zoom and have his face up there. And you know if your language Liberty Glenn Cripe anything anything they already know. Yeah and it got your address and don't get over so I just want to picture you guys understand that now what I want to do. I'm sorry Glenn something you want to say I would just turn the Mike now Adam. You're from Hungary. You're twenty seven twenty eight years old. You come across this conference you want to go you too. You can go down yeah. I wanted to have a September October vacation in Italy. Because I was that the reason or you'll liberty oriented conference like this. What the heck brought that? How did you even know about it? Why you there? Yeah well it's going to be a really nice holiday with like minded people. People as phones libertarian values like when I was eighteen thanks to John Dawson says his name anyway. So thanks John Dawson okay. You say John Style so you got exposed to freedom oriented kind of stuff from his perspective on. What was it? A in the classrooms disc or go to an but what was the first it was. Okay all right Glenn how. How do you get exposed to stop them from what way Fox News Fox News? Okay just watching the news news so you guys watch the news watch. English speaking news wasn't youtube and I saw snippets. Okay that's kind of interesting. which was what the freedom aspect the individual thing proper roller government? What was it that sparked you go who I'm watching another the one another one? Where are these people? I gotta go find what aspect of liberty you'll drew you in from the beginning. What was it was a freedom from amount to full? I fought because nobody especially hunger. Nobody likes being ruled by somebody else. We love our freedom. Adam Passion and punches. Because all my life I was growing up I've always had a Belgian socialist sense like we need was on what because muscle west people are going to have done what always troubles me debts on. You always have to force people to actually do good underworld right and so he was eventually she wants like showing. What's two months regulation actually can do this? Sometimes with Ando's happenings extra cost multiple and I compare it to what I experienced unrealized from other people that I knew because I grew up in a somewhat talks of Jerem Neil anyway anyway and then and small more. I realized that what is man with really good Los Angeles saying makes no although sense. It's just all comes together and you don't need somebody pointing a gun at your hats and you're GonNa give them ten bucks because you'll owning more than him and so it's just a justice fairness thing so is the justice fairness things. Do you think it's a personality trait. That made you this way or was there some. You know relative grandma coach Former employer where did this come from that you even cared going for myself. So it's a personality. You'll be asked Glen that Glen You understand and my point you know you have a lot of these people come. Circumstances did where they're brought up environment or something or is there just like with Adams just personality trait. That's common amongst a lot of people take you guys out. I would say that I mean we're talking about three thousand students that we've met in the past ten years. I would say the most common the answer that I've heard is that their parents. The influence of the parents wish in former Soviet countries was a lot more dangerous than it is today. Their parents encouraged them. They gave them alternate education or they encouraged them to sink independently for themselves. The best example of that you know him a lot better and so I can't speak for these gentlemen. Here's who I just met. But that's the most common they were. You were allowed to have these kinds of thoughts home. Their parents encourage them now. Aware the parents got the record. I don't know well it's time for you. Guys be parents get making some babies you know this is all about breeding them out. The bad guys lose because good people start having babies. Everybody goes like this. They say who would want to bring a child into this world is hell. That's why you bring a man. Let's go kick their ass you know so I'm like God we're all good Adam thank you give me another one real quick. I don't want to run out of time. You know. Make sure everybody wants to talk. Thank you Adam for sleep. We got another segment after this one more in here. Here's a new friend. Tick from Poland. Okay so the retry this part limoges Kaminsky bar bar low means Kaminsky. Go ahead you say in the collect correctly in Polish. It's Botox for me but if you look at his name from room English respect no I am. It doesn't sound like that. Okay so go ahead and say your bartending. Okay Bartok bartender STARTAC bartender's cool man. Whatever gets the women all right so this is go ahead and give me your story? You've heard me talking about you have leaning towards even wanting to go to at this conference why well. I'm kind of interested in the idea of Bertie for a couple of years. I I started to and I my older brother Lowthian book. It was the strokes by Enron's man. You're screwed rude okay. You went down that road you're done that's all over. I get she said to me. This is the best that she ever bright. He's renting a lot and go. Give you the chance so I was really impressed. You know what's interesting. Is that written in the fifties his and I read it in ninety four. It was like history right up to like you know the last hundred pages and now you read it again now. It's growing the last thirty pages. She's predicted what's coming. And did you see that in your own community countries. You know that you what she depicted it follows that trend of the kind of people that want to rule. You start to ring true. What was happening around you? Actually it gets some some degree but when I'm looking at the Orleans now because there was I think seven years ago but I'm looking right now with are doing in Europe is going is going to be like this. I think absolutely it's GONNA come down in the end there's going to be forced and whether other we resisted or escape or something but they then those are going to do whatever the hell they want because they those can and we let them. I mean that's just the way it is because your sociopathic messed up to begin with even think they can rule you and they're going to try if you let them. Are you in Europe. You think there is going to allow eldest this dark cloud descend over Europe again. You think that's going to happen or not. You know I think it's going linked to it most likely it's going to happen but from way because I think there is a communist propaganda and euro. No doubt they are doing differently from the Soviet Union for example before Lawrence by military means. But now they aren't doing it through like philosophy propaganda social credit scores and European Union is as a symbol of dots. And you know he's like its European Union parts. It's almost like Soviet. Yeah I know I'm just like you when you do the comparisons if somebody shows Olympo- graphic or somebody explains or you go to language of Liberty Conference and you get here going damn. It's as bad as I thought maybe worse but what solutions do you think your generation are they going to allow. This is going to be work is going to be resistant. You taken to the streets like tap in Hong Kong and France and I. I don't know go to the street from the fourth letter of Captain Mark landlubbers are conditioned to believe. 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Where did you get the marketing even know where to go? Well I found it on facebook one of their organization the sleigh discount I think I liked them on facebook and promoted dots in one of the post gave. What was the enticement is like no? Oh come here were you know the women topless I mean what. Why did you go home to go? Different those Qatari on ideas. I went to. Why why would you want to go? Deeper into. Libertarian is just from atlas shrugged friend of you made you read it you go. What the the hell do they call this now? They called it objectivism individualism or whatever they call it. But you're going this is there's got to be other people read this book. WanNa talk about it. Where they at is? That was that basically when I when I rent on all of these philosophies facilities and I felt that this is something thinks that I always felt is rights like giving me there was always like provider from sides evens from school. They only egoisms always the wrong. That's always always goods and I arrived on random. Why why so late? I should took coming off the hook much earlier. You know and this is something. This is the wait list. So that's why I want to go deeper the cool. Thank you does a good usually. There's a book titled It usually begins with Ayn rand. Ah Go ahead and go to the next one real quick thanks okay. Hey now which one is this. What's his name? So give me a chance to do it. A Greg Kowalczek Powell also check. Is that right now. Bad not perfect. All right whatever so here we have greg now. Is it Gregory Grigori Oregon. Say Your name your mom gave it to. You is is Jaguar. She you guys got like different neighbor. Everything all right yeah. That's fine thank you. Now you're from Poland. We have a lot of people from the. Were you influenced by India. The students that came from Poland. I was influenced Actually organizes the whole event. I am from Poland but south in the United Kingdom so so Having to hear about the brexit saying for the last few years it was nice to finally go better the liberty come to join my tribe the final issue someone who's fixable choices based on principle and a personal interest. Oh my God okay okay okay okay okay. This is where this is what. I'm thinking. This is what I'm thinking. You hear me okay. No longer see. This is my point is that you know a lot of people. They'll go man you just don't I don't get it. They don't understand you know. Europe is the school system. You know propaganda from television radio. The bus station as whatever no individualism. No no entrepreneurship without the state. Getting their cut. No no no no. The answer is no we're the American mindset has the answer is always yes just how much I mean. You know. It's like you know yes we can do that. Show me the money and it's all about half the politicians whatever money's GonNa give you more options and freedom so my thing is I'm going all right right for the youth of Europe under all this brexit which really argument we WANNA be left alone. No we're going to tell everybody what to do. All the time that that mindset. What do you think? The percentage of the popularity of the support of the positions that you support in this freedom oriented community. Is there a bunch of people waiting into go behind you. As long as they see some movement mannered the rallies of two hundred thousand people who want to hear everything Glenn Cripe as say or or you got up hill battle title. That's going through just to get them to even listen to you. I'm wondering is it a personality trait that you know you say polling around Europe that people they'd just if if I just give him a Myers Briggs test and go yep they're going to take this and we target them or is it or I need to understand what the future is in the next five ten years. What do you think's going to happen? Who are the people? Why are they going to follow what you think support? I think the problem is that we don't seem to convince everybody. He just the ten percent of the people located the American. Founding Father Sander Hosiery war having only ten twenty percent of people who are actually involved in for the independence and there is just follow. Everybody else just went on business and follow deputy for really active and bishops and they will follow alward. And you won't be one of those guys you take your one of those guys you you look in your mind you go you know. I'm kind of one of those guys are you are you. Are you both so easy to get business. In Europe. You know especially living in Modern Day western Europe. So it's so great to be liberty calm so I can get my hopes up again. Well I tell you what happened. Scotland when braveheart it came out in the mid nineties they go we used to be independent. Well we want our old parliament. We demand it. I mean you know it's just and we just had a couple apple from Ireland. We met at Arca poke over last couple of years. They came here on holiday. They spent like a week and a half. Just doing America you know and they Ireland right in the middle of the Republican Ireland right in the middle of all this brexit stuff. Having come on and talk about it. What do you think of the brexit thing whether you think the real issue is about the? What's the argument for and against so the argument is to be a to be able to govern ourselves and be governed by people from Brussels because most of the regulations from the EU and people in Britain have nothing to say but also for additional The next few hours or something we can do about it. Just say European Union tells us to this idea of the youth your age hang people you hang hanging out with and when you go back to. Scotland talked about it. They're like yeah you know. We're yeah we're in because I was telling the guys who go man. Where are these anarchist nor Acapulco Vegas Zone Arkadelphia I guarantee you put an anarchist libertarian? meet up a something in Ireland's going to blow up all over the place boom narratives and do you have the same opportunities in Europe when you do that. They're just all kinds of other libertarians. or You have to go to Italy. I'm I'm afraid to go with the HIVER. That sounds yet people afraid on us in general however don understand it the way we do people won't doom. Is it a personality thing or an age thing certain personalities. They're generally young now. We'll talk about that in the after show. We want to get one more person and before we run out of time here real quick your final one there Glenn Go and do that and then we'll get together and I'll give them a round robin now. We'll get back to your greg. The next person okay. Okay this is Andy Asian. This is my colleague and business. Aspire nerve co-founder of language of liberty. We met in two thousand four and we've created language Liberty Institute in two thousand five and our events. There's always one of us and usually both of us at our programs. This is so from your perspective. Yeah we can't Andy from your perspective you've been doing this for over a decade. So you're going are we. Making progress is coming more rapidly as exponential exponentially. Are you starting to get a lot of activity or is it a struggle. Tell me where you're at now. In your program's impact that's habit semesters struggle at sexually great fun and we stand with one country entry and now we've been to thirty so we've made progress on three thousand students. Suggestion gone through our program and generally the receptionist is very positive. We we tagged the young people number one because you sent down the future targets young because when they're young they're still still looking searching searching for truth for limited express themselves and we give me the opportunity you know. I am really impressed over the years and I was always supportive of what. You're doing glen. Because I knew this was going to have a big impact for many people that were exposed to it. And we're supposed to the people that were exposed to it. But I didn't know how fervent you'd be impressing this in other other countries go into Africa going to Asia going there and I'm going this is it's just going to keep expanding. Hopefully they'll be competition or you'll just have fifteen Out at the same time and it grows and grows grows the then you come to the attention of important people. Living Free Talk Live you can tell by the way. They're dressed by their demeanor that these are illegal. Do you understand that they bring in open the door about leprosy not a not so our country and it's stopped Jingoistic crap for your picking and choosing your sounded a bunch of murdering Raping Ping Lepers are coming across the border. Yes they are no Trish Suhr case then then in fact we would all know about it. I mean you know you sounds like the living dead down there at the border and they're just coming across from Fox. News is going to tell you this. You got another thing come. 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They had not corralled the votes they needed to prevent the former national security advisor or other witnesses coming forward the Times notes on the final day of arguments on trump's behalf chase Secolo Colo- sought to raise doubts about boats claim. cyclo colder unsourced allegation that he contends his in admissible at the impeachment trial California l. forty-eight made me a leader in many areas but overall child wellbeing is not one of them. That's according to a new report. Suzanne Paula reports for pianists. The latest distance children's report card from the nonprofit children now gives California A grade of C minus overall the only grade in the sixteenth semiannual analysis is for kids health coverage as only three percent of California. Children remain uninsured children now president. Ted Leopard says that's because the state has moved aggressively he to cover all kids including those who are undocumented and it's an example what happens when our state leaders really focus and set a goal and we get there. Almost twenty. Eight percent of our kids were uninsured just a couple of decades ago so this has been real progress on that front however the State got a grade of D. Plus for affordable childcare. Oh care because only fourteen percent of low income families can get their children into state subsidized care. The report also notes that childcare workers make very low wages ages which has led to a shortage gut report also found California ranks among the lowest in the nation on per pupil spending for K.. 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I did pretty good that time Charles because I see the video of a guy. He's their friends and they're doing. He just figured he'd yell at a wine glass. If you get breaking it broke. It went viral. Give me that freaking enthused. I'll do that the maybe not Charles go yet is the author data. Ernie come on. How long have we known each other? How many times audience to know who you are? Y- The FBI come on all right go yet. wrote some books to be here because of the path that lies behind me. He wrote books about stuff New York Times Bestseller Seller Dunlop one hundred twenty something Radio Stations Ron Paul's America with him for awhile. And of course he was the number one in his slot. super-duper talk show host here in in Arizona Law. Some happened a long time ago. You know but that was set a foundation here. Nearly why is it always Arizona. While I'm telling you it was because of the people that you know spouse the freedom of which was every day on your frequent radio show so this is a founding. That's why Don allowed me you to stay in radio on. She's obviously the brains of the outfit absolutely beauty for sure. There's going to you got to get real jobs guy go. Well Charles needs a purdue. Okay that's all right. You can do Charleston. I remember one day when we're on on the air in one of the stations or whatever and and Ernie and I were talking about the show and we were sitting there and you came in you. Were like on the other side of the glass on the came in I. Don't you know. Bring Ernie the car archies or whatever it was you came by and and Ernie said you know. Every day I look at done I think. What a good luck woman? I remember that really clearly and I sit Ernie Ernie you are right and I suppose you'd probably tells you that everyday like he should she. Three kids reminds me. I'm going you have no idea how people I win win. Because you're my wife. It's all about me about me me me me me I win. That's the best thing you've said all day. I win win with for the wind. You know anyway. So no we appreciate Donna. That was one thing when we had the the vaccine education summit. This last Saturday that went. That was big now. We had like one hundred and fifty people people in there that was got at least three to five. Legislators came by wanted you know. Put their stamp on what I'm like. Yeah I was kind of behead I oh yeah yeah Blah Blah Blah Blah. You guys do something. Let me know you know till then it's just all politics and But other girls were working really working on it but in a pictures that we had there wasn't GonNa do and Pictures Donald and not working. She's out doing something she didn't get the picture I'm like and like that's not going to be good picture. If you want to dress it up and get other people to look at it. Well there were some that Dell big treat had Irene Pie working She was one of the primaries. We were working with undoing the summit and she didn't get in it and I was like all ain't going over either you know. We made sure that she got pictures with later. And kinda be nice but not a bunch of Donna. So I'm like sorry Don. Fortunately she's not a big jagged crap she says I've had about all the public attention I will know. She's always she's like no I'm good you know whatever. So this is been you're my trouncing through Arizona politics ticks and everything but you focused a lot on national stuff. You're you're really more of a national audience. They were cultivating you for and going onto and you knew you had a decision to make and use that and want that bad habits you know I never. I never came across where I had a decision. You know where like I could go. Choose to turn the fork on the left of the on the right. I'm always you did. I never had a choice. Of course you did okay. Had to do what I had to do. Just like you take the opportunity was there. You just chose wisely so whatever. Whatever don't you how's your life now? You you got remarried been alley and I've been together. We actually met in two thousand six. We became We decided to share one single house-key in two thousand seven seven and we've been married since two thousand eight so we are eleven years married. I'm happy God eleven years already been eleven years and we have She has two grandkids. I have three grandkids. So that's five. We're not in your league at all but you don't work but I still have one son. That's not even married yet. You know he's still. Oh Really Stephen still batching it and stuff so so we'll have more grandkids down the road but Anything you WANNA talk about your your sons. They got interesting careers in perspective. They share with us on time Taylor audience about that if you're willing to talk about him because you know their fate is in their hands and stuff but they're both in the motion picture business and they're both. They both work for major motion picture studios and they're both executives and They both live in southern California and both can afford it and they're very happy and of course my hope would be that they would come back. Arizona got deep roots in this stay deep and You know I and I WANNA be around my grandkids and kids and stuff. But I don't WanNA move of California. I WANNA move move their Zona Farm. What do you do no? I'm just saying if the entertainment industry moved there was improper. I mean it's not like they hate the desert or anything they I love it and they miss it and I sent him a picture in the pool with the dog diving in the other day in diving for the tennis ball will suffer. I sent them the video of that and they both go gone. We just miss. We miss it but they never come back. I mean not in the fast lane that they're in you know. Yeah what is that fast lane it has been. It was built the belt China is that it. Oh you're going again. This is why this is good. Last night I go up and I see. There's a new episode of South Park season. Five hundred and eighty whatever it is right so it's episode two. They just started. You know this this whole episode. Last night was is on China influence in American movies in theaters and studios. And they're talking about yoga. Do your there's no money in albums anymore. They have little rock band new for the high school tile them. They're sitting there. And what are they doing right so they go all record pre. Oh Yeah we got a sign you man and we're GonNa make some money in China. But then they had the China Center standing there and their uniforms of. You can't say that you can't talk about that you can't you can't you. Can't and the whole episode was about the control of Hollywood would from the sensors of China. Because you're not going to be able to get that accident money market unless you do what they say is that true. We'll I'm sure it's true you ask sure it's a huge market. And of course they want to be in it because you know there are a billion people could buy movie tickets and go to the movies. I'm sure but it's the same thing that had the United States. Look look in the United States some somebody said you know you can't show this couple naked in bed or we're going to give you an R.. Rated and a lot of the the theaters aren't going to book your mood today. All of them would book the movie. But you know we've got off you know the commercial. It's commercial pressure. It's commercial pressure. Have you ever seen a documentary. This movie is not yet rated. No you would love it. It's about EMPA- and how they do that. The structure and you got all these different directors and actors because they did a movie doctrinaire command with a private investigator to find out who these people are. Because it's all secret you know. The industry can regulate itself thing. And I'm going. This was very and you could see the social and ECCONOMIC engineering that they do through that if you have a violent movie scarface or something. Oh Heck No. That's an x-ray NC seventeen of you kidding me chainsaw massacre to whatever and while they have cops come in and say how accurate is and the elder bad trail in the in the end the BAGAI loses salo to my little friend as he dies you know whatever right okay. We'll give that. We'll let you like show it. Then you have the sexual orientation stop if you have teenage sex at Camp what you call it and Friday the thirteenth Jason Jason Jason Comment. It's okay as long as they're killed for their. 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Call Six two two six four twenty eight hundred six zero two two six four twenty eight hundred and now Ernest Hancock. Try to talk Charles into our gone. I'm on the road for a few weeks. Go into Boston. Area and New Hampshire and Maine and stuff with Bob Anderson working on it. We'll be doing the show on the road and I'm trying to you know Dr Frank you know you take on some time and you know Liberty Advisor visor. Temperature me do a day or so and then if we can. Let's convince Charles go yet. Do One thing is the Charles test one test to it. So if I if I do your your show might get to hear myself introducing myself probably yeah and welcome back there Ernest Hancock. That's one thing the voice that you hear which is old all the rejoinders everything. That's Charles. You know. He did that for me. I'm going can I use your silky tones. Why yes you can't do so those because we've got to keep the U. recognizable in the voice out because Charles East coming back radio someday someday this it? I can't announce that yet because it's not mind signed to announce a new book coming out probably in the end of January and February really publishing a publisher. Are you going to get old fashioned. Publishers US says a kind of a different but it's a publisher and it's theirs to announce it's not mind announce so that's not public yet but anyway get out the name of the book. It's about freedom and we're fighting over the name right now. We're not really fighting over looking for the best. Yeah some kind of about freedom stuff instead of just the economy tell you what. What shall we talk about today? I don't care all the stuff that's in your book. We're not saying it's in the book but it stuff he knows about that might be in the book no all right so we're not gonNA talk about so yeah well you when you're ready man. We'll promote him. Push the crap out of come on and talk talk about well. There's one thing I started hearing about this. This is a thing that yet you know hadn't really been on my radar. There is a meam of Joe Biden and his son and it's got this viral mean that you know trump there's posting it. I don't know nothing about nothing. And then of course they got a picture. Do you know what they're talking about. Why kind of know the whole story? But I'm not sure what you're talking about the me. Twitter removed moved viral mean posted by President trump which highlighted. Joe Biden's duplicity on his sons business dealings in response to a claim by the copyright owner. The meam showed Biden the nine eh ever spoken to his son hundred that one. Okay so this is you know. Twitter is removing all the story. Oh my God you know trump in behind it and I don't care about that. Twitter's removing the photo of four guys golfing and Hundred Biden and Joe Biden and one of The Biden's partners in this Burris my or whatever. It's called the Ukrainian oil company and some of the some other pour forth. Guys probably just like again play around with you guys you know so. He got caught in the photo of the guys and the idea that copyright holder would stop them from circulating this this photo photo copyright holder guy took the picture or something. I don't know it doesn't matter it doesn't matter but but the point is you know. Why would anybody stopped? Publication of this picture will the reason they would stop the publications pictures because Joe Biden said I never. I never ever ever talked to my son on about Ukraine the oil company. And so what. I've never talked about it. So here's picture of him on the on the on the golf course. I mean the Corsi Horsey talked about it. Here's a picture of him on the golf course. You know his son and one of the other guys on the Board of the Ukrainian oil company you know eighteen holes of golf with the words Ukraine. Never pass their lips. It's the same thing as China deal. You know were Biden and hunter go over to China on Air Force two and Biden Junior uh-huh Hunter I guess is he comes back with a you know. Ability Billion dollar capital deal for an investment fund or something like that. I mean the stuff off stinks stinks stinks. Of course it stinks all of this stuff sticks and and you know what stinks even even more than just the sheer cronyism cronyism of all of this stuff guys like twitter taking pictures down. Yeah that stinks. And here's what really sticks to me is what in the hell are. The are the American American people doing leading the frigging military industrial surveillance complex. Give a billion dollars to some corrupt Nazi Nazi regime in Ukraine. What the Hell is this? Now is the deal. Yeah and so. They're fighting over a hundred just advising a company courses courses entitled to a board. Of course he could take out millions and nobody is talking about. What the hell are? We doing transferring a billion dollar. Now here's how it works. It comes out it comes out of the pockets of the American people is billion dollars. It goes to Washington The guys in Congress go you know have drinks with the guys in in the In the military industrial complex and they say yeah we want you to buy a bunch of missiles and you know we'll sell them decree so so then Ukraine gets to buy all these missiles from Raytheon or whoever it is and warm machinery from American merchants of death and stuff but they don't have any money. They're broke well. How are they going to buy American the merchants of deaths production? If they don't have any any money Oh simple we're gonNA give them a billion dollars for foreign aid off. Hasn't that been Israel for ever. It's been every country on the face of the Earth where the merchants agents of death for the world for the whole world. And where do they cut. Where don't doesn't anybody know how broke this? Country is and the American people are so flipping bro Broke. You know the reason the AK forty seven is seen as the you know the freedom tool and all that kind of stuff is just a people are able to razz up and what happens. Is You got the the United States going all over the world with these big giant gazillion dollar deals with somebody willing be able to sign the paper of you. Know How you know you pay for that. Well we got it from these guys and you owe us and you know whatever and when we fund it we paid for it and they get all armed. WHO's up against all that it was? Russia influence launch coming in and just given the people AK forty sevens and say go take care of business and they got off a lot cheaper but what are they doing now. Now now. They're in the business for real and they're out there. They don't have to subsidize the BIO people go half price of this American. We want lots of them hundreds or whatever it reminds the memory hole you know in in Nineteen eighty-four. Oh Oh she has always been at war with East Asian so so in the Ukraine thing. You know the Ukraine owed probably billions of rubles to Russia but they. I didn't have the money to pay Russia back. So the International Monetary Fund plunders the American people and gives them money to Ukraine. But what now. We're you know visibly at odds with Russia right and Russia bad and Russia mad but all of this money going to Ukraine gene was to go guaranteed the bonds of Russian investors in gas prominence of. I mean it's just it's it's it's also so transparent and it's just a it's a it's plunder plunder plunder and the American people watch this stuff and they watched the fighting guys you know. There's you know there's the fighting Hillary and there's the fighting camera Harris and there's the fighting trump but they're all they're all serving their masters they're all serving in the military industrial complex. They're all serving the empire. They're all serving the greater glory of the State. It's just enough to make you sick in. The American people are the victims of it. You know the one thing that I see a lot in this is that you have the Obama Administration. They then those over whoever the hell they re cares. You know. They're over there doing a lot of stuff. They use this kind crony capitalism and with our money to do the foreign aid of hunter. Got A job you know. All this stuff is just you know transparent but what are we doing so now you hear your trump. It's always a blame you for what they are guilty of on a much bigger level they go well trump but threatening to take away their foreign aid if they didn't getting look at this criminal doing whatever I'm going out you know what hell we give them money for if it doesn't have conditions I I just soon not giving them money. They shouldn't even WANNA take don't want conditions but this is just hypocr looking for a great real estate investment. Consider New Hampshire which is Ground Zero for the Liberty Liberty Movement. Your first call should be tomorrow word from porcupine real estate. He's more than just a real estate. Agent is your New Hampshire concierge. Where are the best places to live? Do you want farm city the burbs herbs or forest. Do you want a duplex multifamily buildings so that renter's pay your mortgage their homes. All price ranges in New Hampshire and mark and help with financing to invest in liberty and property opry mark warden can help real estate dot com. 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Because you know Countdown clock well. I never got the countdown clock. Big Stations I had the countdown clock by never had him at the. You know when I got cast into the outer darkness us but the Ernie always teased me about is like I'd have new stories. That'd be talking about something. Came off Yahoo or something came off you know we printed some story out of you know the sun son in London or something we have a story three or four pages and And I'd always wanted to paper clipped together instead of stapled and article. We'll have and what does that mean. I'm a staple this together and go. Yeah but could use a paper clip instead. I and I don't like the Russell the you know the sound of wrestling the paper leaper. Yeah you take one sheets have been it over. You won't be rush limbaugh. You Know He. He turned a page and so on. Okay well I did it for you. I'm I was like. Yeah whatever whatever you know what ideas you about okay now. This is what I tease him about. It'd be a bunch of stuff to print out. Which Donna does you you know but I got freedoms Phoenix where I guess a lot but what Charles would do? I need these four hundred seventy three pages per now you know and I get so I come to work I get in there Aaron. He'd come in fifteen minutes after me or something but I'd have all the stuff printed out that you know he wanted. And then we'd paper clip them together an avid pile and he killed killed so many trees because he wouldn't go to a lot of the stories you never got to but you know I guess you over produce and always have something to say. Well there was a news guy there. Are that big copy. Because he had coke bottle glasses or something Mr Magoo. Whatever his name was he would he would do print out his new stuff but he would use the back of Charles's paper because he didn't want it so much freaking waste going on? You're killing lots of trees. Oh yeah tree killer. That's right. Guide freak man all that paper and we just like this is the deal we get reams of paper a week get over the way it is costume busy doing in business. Yeah I'm looking forward to you. Come in and I'll definitely be listening to you. Get back on the Mike because you know Charles is great at this stuff and he actually reads the books. I don't I I come on. You'll tell me why I'm supposed to read this book. Charles would read the book then I get them on you know. I've matured. Ernie take just give you one story about how that is I had a show on. Ktar night a long time ago. When you and I first met and the emphasis on that show design by my design but the emphasis on that show was a lot of author interviews because you know there are a lot of their lots of interesting authors and stuff and they were on the tour and things and you know it just? It's just the way they kinda wanted that. Show to be a lot of author interviews and so you know. Read Stacks and stacks exa book by read the books. But we're not ahead a guy on. I wish I could remember who it was and I and I said so. Tell me at sometimes no more about their subjects that they did. I'm not trying trying to brag interested and I'd go look stuff up so we'll tell me You know is it true that X Y and Z equals would what is x Y and Z equal. And he goes or I'm not sure and I go. Well that's funny. It's on page one hundred twenty seven yearbook. Tell them what X. Y. Z.. ADDS up up to so now on the other side of my first book comes out. I'm on the other side of the story. I'm doing interviews all over the country radio stations and I had some little thing in there. They're just I you know what I was writing. I thought well I'll give a vivid example of this is what this is an remember what it was like. How much income some tax is the average American family of four pain to service the US debt? That's held by China. So you know you. In China is a major creditor remember that factoid man so some number I have no idea what it was. You know maybe it was. The average American household is paying. You know no Four hundred sixty three dollars a year you know to service the US debt to China is that who knows. I have no idea what it this so like. I'm doing this tour. Some guy goes so tell me Charles. How much debt does the American household Actually have to pay a to service the debt that China holds. I go I have no idea. And he goes. That's funny. Pay Two hundred twenty seven in your book. Ziyang saying Karma but you know you're right you're right. You're right this stuff and and in the traditional publishing the old line publishers. It's a long time between when you write it. And when it's finally Predator in the hands of people so you write something in February and then it doesn't come out until the following January and you get little factoid in about four hundred thirty seven dollars Larssen's impossible to remember on these tours when you okay. This is the one question. Now's a good time to ask you when you were on the clear channel affiliate here between between Russia and Hannity or whatever your you kick him button your time slot and they don't take any well they want you to be not pro enough war. Megan uh-huh I'm not advocating for a while. It's it's support the troops. That's what it is. It's really support troops. Yes you don't support the troops which means of course we gotta go kill people so I'm going you. Nah I'm good well. Of course they didn't renew your contract and then came over where we were and we work together and kind of we knew each other. Because you're right back in the early ninety ninety one or something I do in my activism. I wound up on your show and I go. I get it. You know you go. Hey Man touting neighbor radio oh no you tell me that you go I go how come you don't talk. Radio howdy neighbor radio man we get that deep on. But you were libertarian philosophical. Well you can do what was going on. There was a sign in the in the executive producers. Office said this This true I mean I think how this would fly today but there is assign in her office that said What s something like a some something? Not really bizarre about all no person is wrong. All opinions are valid or something like that you know and I'm just like rolling is is going along. It'd be a good fit here. I wasn't what was her name. Laurie your citizens long. Before that there there was one she went on Wfaa yea. ABC You know ABC. Where Stern was and I remember we done a lot of things you know for you and Jim Sharpe and other you guys? Whenever there is a liberty oriented talk show host? We'd like make campaign. We need to show some love mannered. He'd be import support and signs. And all well we got Jim Sharpe the morning Gig over there and she called me and she goes behind those cycle. Not As far as you know take for nothing control. We would put up signs for stuff to just to be but has an call the newspaper and say you know vote. You know this person for that and do they go well. He's he's a talk show host. You can't I go. Yeah you should fire them the paper you should fire this guy. Then they do after the early got some more press yet so easy for me because these guys are so predictable you know if you can play to their weakness they just that's coming Arizona. Twenty twenty I met with Shauna Bolic's last Friday. Okay Clint Bollocks Supreme Court justices wife is a representative in this district where I live my representative. He by nobody's my represent me so in the district that I live as done the crown they say my representative is so when we met you can tell there is a political mindset and some people in Gosh Darn it we're GONNA use the force of them get some and of course she because being Clint's wife you know she understands our language and freedom and all that stuff but yeah it's still the political thing you know. What do you think the politics and Arizona's going to be in twenty twenty? Got McCain's gone. We have it's a purple state. Where the hell that means? We got all the corrupt RIPTA. Pensions are going to go here. I mean just like everybody else and we're probably better than most states but it's going to be devastating. I know what else happened like Illinois. You know so what do you think. The future is in the political landscape. And why they're going to be begging to get Charles back on the air watching just making project you watch. 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Dot Fm there are those that just want to be left alone and those that just won't leave them alone. Which one are you the earnest handcock show the good news? ooh So good so good. They can't that's why one time I did. I tell you what it was played some Boston or Queen or something you know was and when I came in and I got admonished by my board OP. Say you're talking to. You're not allowed to sing the rejoin Guan all hailed. Watch this you know. So that's why I do it just because you know screw them you know. It was making a comment about your singing winging ability. Or you're making a comment about what you should and should not be allowed there. I'm sure there's a little bit of both in there but it was but yeah no. It's me all the time I can't sing either and I don't don't go. Oh yes I can I go. Yeah you're right I do well freaking do it going to happen so board OP. Tell me that I can't like really well. We're so all day day I came back with you know just so get over. It became a thing so I'm not claiming. Obviously you know how well I do. Do not get over the one thing. That Charles has always been is a standard here in the valley. And you've had big impact on a lot of government commit freaking boondoggle. Whatever you've stopped a lot of stuff you know if you didn't stop it you sure as hell articulated the argument against it? It had long legs. You you know people still talk about time goes on that starts to go just like you know I. It's been got eleven years or so since the love Aleutian I go. Yeah that we're on. Paul Love Lucien logo. Yeah we did. And we're kind of part of the what your who I'm talking about dude Whatever you know but it adds to the resume and you get your New York Times bestselling author and you got another book coming out? You've got some screenplays so this is when you started. I remember we were. We're doing the interview for four. Liberty was documentary on Ron Paul thing and we're over at your places when your agent called in you know that you'd sold the book and conversation. I mean minutes before Charles Man. You're times common. Don't worry about it this guy. Let's go on to become an again another book and I'm going you know this always come. What do you think common is it going bad or are we going to be better all the economic stuff that's happening? Twenty twenty elected cycle impeachment of you know the people better prepared now are not really. They're really ill prepared. And it's something we just have to go through you know some somebody says You know what do you do. What's the best s cure for a hangover? And the answer. Is You know. Don't go drink so much on Saturday night and you'll find Sunday morning. Hangover gets cured fast. It's the same thing with America. You know if if people think you can have twenty two point six trillion dollars federal debt and you can have you know ten billion dollars in yeah in unacknowledged acknowledged hidden below the waterline below the iceberg debt. And if if people think that you can squander the the people's capital so there's no capital left in the capitalist country if people think you can do all of this stuff if people think that you can treat generations to the assumption that somebody will pay for their consumption and their lifestyle and then it can go on forever. It's like okay so you don't have to call it Karma but it's just sort of a law reckoning of economic law reckoning the two sides of the balance sheet and so they never let a good crisis go to waste they create this all gets banned in. And what's GonNa come after and that's where the role of the people you an I. Whatever influencers Kinda kneel hail no which is why so many things get band on Youtube? Google searches have anymore. We read created are certain. We'll be making a big deal out of we do some releases here in a few weeks but the the search engine on Freedoms Phoenix is now better than Google. Google has a feature on there and you go in the search will say previous from CENEX DOT com google. You know anything from Google but it was on famous Phoenix. It'll come up or I can search my own engine or you can just search google without when you do that. A bunch of the stories that we've been archiving three hundred thousand plus over the past fifteen plus years since fifteen was so that's like fourteen eighteen years that we've had it on there and I I know wrote about. I know this I know it so we redid the search engine on us. I go there it is well. Google is trimmed crapload closed. Staff are the holy crap hundreds of thousands of freedom Orient just go to freebies Phoenix Dot Com and search that I then you'll find it. He who controls the past asked. Google controls the president who controls the president controls. The future though game plan the whole game all stuff goes down the memory hole. I'm glad you're you know preserving serving the record for posterity and stuff. That's the best thing is about to all of our stuff now is not just on a server on multiple servers on a node network. Kind of like you know Decentralized nodes for Crypto and south. But they're planetary file. Sharing is for that reason because I know that a lot of stuff that we ask why we had to mid page where you go to the mid page as you. Just go to the article because I want some of that at least some of the article comments on it links to other stopped so that that doesn't go away I guarantee that that will not go away from me but anything else especially Yahoo. We used to a lot of stuff from Yahoo Yahoo News and I encouraged all our writers and everything not to use yahoo who links because after a month or two they just go away you know they don't stay. So what's what what should stay what. What's the what do you hope the next generation gets? I don't know but you know it's all it's all kind of it's unfolding kind of in slow motion all of this stuff you know the. There's a reason that the status on the left and the status and on the right are fighting so bitterly. Now you know things have gotten really really ugly you know they tweeted each other in a you know want impeach one another and they wanna kill each other and stuff stuff like this. The reason it's gotten so ugly because the resources that they use to buy office and stuff for shrinking and so the fights get more and more desperate in there. Trying to clijsters is out. Because it's not like you know the fat old days of the Great Society and LBJ. and Richard Nixon when there's so much American money to plunder to buy your way to office the the pie is shrinking and so the politics are getting much more desperate. This what's going on in the whole culture though too. It's the exact same thing you know the more that they are losing the power over the minds of people that all the all the institutions of our lives are in crisis breakdown. I mean churches the the legal system. I don't have to tell your listeners. This everybody knows it. The the legal system the education system the government system every institution of our lives. This is in breakdown. And here's what happens. Under the circumstances they become more and more desperate told power. So it's what you see from the state there it. Will I mean they are losing their grip. It's unstoppable they are losing their grip. This is what you're Al- always been on the leading edge up. They're losing their grip. They will not have their grip forever. But in the meantime they become more and more desperate. That means more and more authoritarian corner. Tired violent yeah exactly to try to hold on the success that the the the real solution all these problems is for them to you know take a little more of a kind of Uzun approach. Yeah we're losing our power y while we didn't use it wisely. And we've squandered it and we're bad people and stuff like that we should just you know gracefully. Let go of things the first things on the leading edge that we can't you know they should start realizing the nature of the Times signs that the that the wheel turning in they're gonNA lose their power but instead they resist they dig in their heels and things become more violent more polarized And it can lead the really ugly periods. What do you think it's going to be instigated? Violence I mean they've tried. You got to have a civil war. We got antef over here. We got proud boys over here and arrived on the same bus. You know and we got this concert seriously. You know I mean there's videos appear to go name and I'm on the right and then they go out and take positions and action. I mean you know it's just we've been through this before you and I have gone to cover this stuff over and over and over do you think I keep doing it because I guess it keeps keeps working isn't going to stop working sometime. Everything they say is a lie. I watched a lot of TV over the last couple of couple of days. And this gun thing. I guesses because of Baidoa Rourke or something gun thing has been front and center on all the you know the nighttime walks and CNN MSNBC. The the thing and all they're talking about is assault weapons which you and I know are just because of the way somebody designed the grip or something but the but the funny thing is. It's all sold to the people as you know to reduce murders gun violence and stuff all eighty five percent of the gun murders in America. Handguns in AK forty sevens is all nonsense. So why are they focused on k. forty-sevens because Taylor people defend against a guy out. We're going to keep going takeout commercial interruptions so that you know like Charles gets the talk and stuff. So we're GONNA go ahead and just Jackie because we gotta get into you know. European Union in the debt Foreign Policy North Korea China Russia. I Know Charles has no opinion about something that we're going to get into that and maybe Out Squeeze out. It'd be a little secret secret secret squeeze out. What is books going to be a balanced? They don't we might by accident. I got tricked him. It didn't A lot of the other stuff. That's going on our plans for what's going to happen. Twenty twenty election cycle. What Charles Might? He's been trying to recruit him to run for something like forever Aber he's like maybe not alleys like Nah. I voted on their own. But I tell you there's GonNa be some fun. What might we use? He's Charles Puerile. No Sop that rose book go to the street. 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Bolton that bolsters the impeachment case against the president that from the New York Times the report by days and Republican leaders indicated they had not corralled the votes they needed to prevent the former national security advisor or other witnesses from coming forward award the Times notes on the final day of arguments on toast behalf chase secolo sought to raise doubts about Bolton's claim cycle colder outsourced allegation that he contents is inadmissible at the impeachment trial. California may be a leader in many areas but overall child wellbeing is not one of them. That's according into a new report. Suzanne Paula reports for the latest children's report card from the nonprofit children now gives California A grade of C minus S. overall. The only eighth grade in the sixteenth semi annual analysis is for kids health coverage as only three percent of California children. Remain uninsured children doing now. President Ted Limpert says that's because the state has moved aggressively to cover all kids including those who are undocumented and example. What happens when our state leader really focused and set a goal and we get there? Almost twenty percent of our kids were uninsured just a couple of decades ago so this has been real progress on that front. However the State got a grade of D. Plus for affordable childcare because only fourteen percent of low income families can get their children into state subsidized the care the report also notes? That child care workers make very low wages. which has led to a shortage? Gut report also found California ranks among the lowest in the nation. They should on per pupil spending for K.. Through twelve education as well as a preventative health screenings for kids covered by Medicare and Kentucky. Lawmakers are considering putting an excise tax on e cigarettes sold in the Commonwealth the tax would be equal to the current tax on traditional cigarettes which is one dollar and ten cents dance per pack Republican Representative. Jerry Miller of Louisville is the bills primary sponsor. He points out. His colleagues are struggling to come up with the state budget amid the worst projected revenue growth in decades largely due to tax cuts. He says House Bill. Thirty two would bring in much-needed state revenue while improving Kentucky inns health but this tax has the added benefit and the primary benefit really of reducing use by young people pregnant mothers to simply because they are more price sensitive yesterday evening governor. Andy Bashir announced his budget plan for the next two years. According to the latest Kentucky Health Issues Poll three out of four Kentucky adults approved taxing e cigarettes and bathing products. That bill is now on the Kentucky House Appropriations Revenue Committee if passed it would take effect the only as August this is pms. Ohio farmers will be growing hemp. This bring it is a risky crop but some pioneers were eager to make get work. The USDA established an interim rule last fall to regulate hemp production. In Ohio was one of the first states to have health program approved by federal regulators hemp busy very labor intensive crop typically grown on five acres or less Juli to ran with the Ohio. Hemp Farmers Cooperative Explains Farmers also face a somewhat murky murky regulatory environment and she doesn't think hemp will make much profit at the start. It's a brand. New Industry has been growing this plant for more than four years anywhere in the US so to say that we can just start out and be so strict on regulations and have to comply with all of these. I just really warn. This is a risky the business. More the time eras that are trying to make this work. The rules for help and Ohio are still being written and give you finalized by state. Legislators in the coming weeks growing and processing using licenses could be available in March just ahead of planting season me. Wally public comment period on the USDA's interim rule. And today Mary Sherman reporting in this story was produced with original reporting from Maria mcguiness at Kent State a public comment period on the USDA's inner a rule and today the twenty twenty cents is kicks off at about two months a lot on the line for states like bizarre h children under eighteen account for roughly twenty two percent of all missourians directive tip says its operations. John Shackle says if children are missed in that. Twenty twenty tally. The state will miss out on crucial federal dollars. We don't want people to forget. littlest one's counting counting. Our children mean education childcare roads bridges infrastructure for the next ten years. And we just don't want Missouri's children to be less doubted at national picture. Nationwide nearly five percent of kids under age five were not counted in the last census finally are Mike. Bowen reported some Minnesota lakes invasive species shoes are limiting the growth of the Popular Fish University of Minnesota researchers say the culprits are Zebra mussels and spiny water flea. The researchers found in lakes swear their president they can reduce the grow size of Walleye between twelve and fourteen percent. The species takeaways zoo plankton. A food source for the fish Geoff Forrester or who has the Group of Minnesota lakes and rivers advocates says. The findings should spur stronger action by the state to prevent the spread of these species. What we've been doing this kind assists educational personal responsibility? That's not getting it done. I think it's slow the spread but it certainly hasn't stopped it. Forester says he'd like to see the state adopt more stringent boat inspection policies such as making it a requirement for people getting an operator's licence the DNR has four strong limits for anglers. Some of those restrictions have been slowly lifted as the while. I makes a comeback in the popular lake. I'm Mike Clifford for public. Do Service we are member endless to supported and online at public service DOT. Org All right. Thank you so much for that Rick tittle with you on a super bowl Thursday. We're getting closer. The game faces are starting to come on the players. All the fanfare and all that crap static static gate real and we'll talk about it with you starting off back here and the suffering plaza where my mic is always hot and the action action is always cold. We got some guests today. We got ISAYA stand back. He won a super bowl ring. You'll be coming up after a short break. Oliver Luck Oliver. You'll right all of a lucky said I have some more the commissioner of the XFL Andrew. Luck's Dad Dad. I remember him as the Houston. OILERS quarterback join us at nine forty at ten ten. A new science channel series shipwreck secrets. We'll bring in Michael Barnett to talk about that. Also I said yesterday we'd have Jack Youngblood. I lied so we're GonNa Have Jack Youngblood in at a forty today and before that though at eleven One of our favorites. Chris Porter is in town. He's at the punch line and he'll he'll be back in studio again Chris Porter Very funny comedian as I said the punchline right there right here on Battery Street and Chris has been coming in here for years. And he's always wearing a royals or chiefs hat and I remember wedding. Excuse me came in with the royals lost the world series and won the Rose won the world series. He was here last year. After de Ford was off side so I'm sure he's going to be fired up and it's going to be a lot of chief stock for sure. 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I said it's Thursday on Super Bowl Week. It's getting more serious. Somebody who knows about that and who has a ring is the former super bowl champion. Isaiah stand back and he's here to talk about the first ever fitness fantasy football experience. which kicks off in Miami as I speak and Isaiah welcome to the show this to me as a former D two player. I'm Kinda scared I feel like there's going to be a lot of gases and a lot of oughta running when when that word fitness is in there. What what is this all about? Yeah has got we had a board jobbers putting on on Decided to come on board where he failed myself and day wilcock has a former NFL player. Just WanNa get the public opportunity to train with US saying get a greater understanding then double in solitary now speaking about being a pro athlete you. You actually had a choice because you're a tremendous baseball all players well and you were drafted by the Orioles. Did did football kind of find you because I was I remember one time talking to j t snow and he wanted to be a wide receiver achiever like his dad was for the rams but he just was much much better at baseball so he choice that shows that. How did it work for you? I feel kind of optimism. The big big football and it just really came through where we had a great opportunity to sign for the money. Any coming out of high school But I haven't make decision to turn it down because of the fact that they didn't want to they didn't want allowed me to go to college. back into really allow you to the whole collegiate thing so generally on and I made for me to go play into tracking those laws a year and then and I'm still drafted. Not only by cowboys orioles panic. pedicle uncle passed the. What was that like to get? I mean think of all the teams. I mean to get drafted by the cowboys. I mean that's like getting drafted by the Yankees handke's I mean it's just it's crazy. Yeah that was great experience man. My grandfather had passed but right before the the draft right now with the team so he was pretty emotional ticket drafted by his favorite team. Obviously there's also kind of bitter sweet because Coming up with a terrible injury so I was blessed to get your only having played by half my theater and then I'll congratulated. It just never played before coming off one one of the working interest the pain level competition playing at a position. I never played before I was it along a little nervous but I was really happy. I remember a long time ago talking to Jon Gruden and he said you know when you get to the combine. And they're you know now. Did he run a four three or a four or five or four seven and then he said we start talking about wrist size. Who has the bigger risks? That really gets into some bizarre stuff when when really all you gotTa do is talk to the kid and watches tape right. Yeah I'm not sure. How well he did? They wait on my on my film and my my interviews interested. I would coach Gruden. Probably one of my most memorable moment. spouse the point for him but Yeah it's a pretty. It's a process man and what you got to the major combine with small portion of customer. The last game Everything interviews and meetings testing all that stuff goes on behind the scenes. Because we're all the real work. I know a lot of times that players. There's get ask some dumb questions and some embarrassing questions. I think my one of my favorites was a player was actually asked a couple years ago. Would you either kill someone with a knife or a gun. I mean how do you what there's no right answer there. Yeah no nothing no line answer man you recognize you. Try You. Try to try to try to enjoyed as an opportunity to recognize that everybody has a chance to do the pay the truth doing and you just hear about has been well now. Let's talk a little bit more about what by the way we're speaking with Isaiah stand back. Fantasy are should say football fantasy fantasy dot com and You kept yourself in shape. And that's something. Is it just a a way of life for you or did you notice when you stop you gained five pounds and panicked or something no so as a as a player league by weight collecting from two hundred seven thousand or twenty five pounds. So I have learned how to deal with my body and all the on my I had seven surgeries injury that up to say and I learned how training right how they're really gonNA work out your stability ability through focus work in regards. Really push a bunch of weight in order to be. So when I transitioned out the league I started like like I might gain. I started up the former founded thirteen. And we're still operating to this day and that's kind of how really stayed in shaping kind of state and and then environment any kind of created that culture wellness so bad that I live. I turned vegetarian almost a year ago. by way of being challenged by small Charles else that's changed my life as well so the team to grow at is one of the things that forever evolving to learn how to better i. That's how do you think you're kind of lucky. I mean we all want our careers. The last fifteen twenty years but in a way you got in you gotTa rang. Bring you got out. No C.. T. I mean it's kind of a blessing in a way every opportunity for persons myself For really anybody. WHO's The saints injury in the League? I mean you're you're you're trying to be short. Lived not a high tolerance for that. They don't have to deal with right. But I think if you have good character break Catherine relationship put him at work and then with particular hurt that out with the personnel athletes as well Play Freak addition common. NFL quarterback Cebrian site in Not Not even including all the stuff that I play that helped us well I can't any flavor will play for ten years man blessing to have opportunity. You're literally playing against the best guys I know you ended your career up in At foxboro and and people when they leave they talk about the Patriot Way and they. They're talking about about how you know. It's just such a winning formula and it's disciplined but it's the right thing and then some people say oh it some crazy boot camp. I don't even like the paid. What did you think about the Patriot? Way The Patriot away Israel and is absolutely right. I know what I was GonNa say I had just left It was obviously an Catholics. Are All about Martine trying to win games because of these Jerry's world right those marketing headquarters in New England and so they didn't give talk about marketing seemingly all winning culture of waiting and everything had to take to do so so the focus was more so when I was in Dallas. I right driving. What car today when I got knowing who got facility early Hussein the latest We have studied the most religious different different cultures culture and a game. Now all right And now I should say it's on Saturday. It is a one day fitness football fantasy powered by job. Bre and not only is Isaiah GonNa be there but also Daniel Wilcox and some more. It's going to be over at To Ninety eight northeast sixty. I down in Miami if you WANNA RSVP S. VP. It is fitness football fantasy dot com. Just give us about a minute of what's going to happen for the people who show up to this. What are you GonNa do you guys show that? WE'RE GONNA be out there at ten o'clock over camp Wilcox myself and others. We're GONNA be getting you guys as a first class. Look for a first person view in terms of what is like the personal Athens There's a lot of demonstrating sows out there. But we obviously We're and we're GONNA show you a little low quinn into the life of what it takes the train like come out join us and we're GonNa make sure that the guy a great workout. You know there was this fantasy camp for adults that EMMETT SMITH RAN a couple of months ago down Levi's stadium and I went down and we were throwing passes in kicking field goals and I'm fifty four so I said Hey. Can you tell I played. They call it I said. Can you tell I played college football in the eighties and he goes. I could see you might have been a good athlete. You just I can tell you haven't been working out so I thought well that's that's a nice way of saying that works better. Works does is. AM stand back Super Bowl champion still going strong successful businessman man for more information member. It's going to be on Saturday. Go online fitness football fantasy dot com. Isaiah Thanks for being on the show. Congratulations on the the project. Hope we leave. We catch up down the road. Take our guessing game. Yeah mm-hmm and here's a great way. They save money on your prescription medications. If you take Viagra or Cialis we can give you away to pay as little as two dollars. A pill compare. That price is as high as sixty dollars. dollars per tablet. These pills work for men and women to improve their sexual performance and now for the price of two or three pills you can get nearly one hundred. There's no need to pay expensive expensive prices for Viagra or CIALIS. Call now with your prescription and pay as little as two dollars a pill we offer twenty four seven service and always free delivery and confidential financial. 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Eight hundred four seven seven one one three eight hundred four seven. Oh seven one one. Three eight hundred four seven seven one one three. That's eight hundred four seven. Seventy one. Thirteen title is going to go to the air. He's fast. He throws to the end zone. Better could cutters was hidden in the other by Willie Brown. They came out with the past. And the raiders stopped the chargers without sex without even three on that Dr uh-huh act. Who cares about anything else else? When you've got rick tittle on the radio baby? Welcome back to this show. What's going on with Challah? RECTAL with you coast to coast border to border around around the world on the American Forces Radio Network. We have just one more day until the January transfer window closes as well. How are you doing with your team Tottenham signing Stephen Bergman from? PS We Einhoven. Danny rose on loan to Newcastle. That's your problem now at Saint James's Verno Fernandez to Manchester on chest to unite. Ed Is all right. Let's talk a little football coming up next in the next segment I should say is Oliver Luck please. I'm sorry I always think of Oliver Twist which is the. It's got to be right up there with the worst book I've ever read in my life and it was part of an English class and it was just bone dry the artful dodger and fagin and could gosh. That was a horrible horrible horrible book. Saying it's funny. When they say this person's a humorist like what in eighteen sixty five he was a humorist? Then you read his book. Old Barney was a hound dog. That didn't move too much. He just said on the deck never did fill ED getting off the deck Birdie. Leave it alone if you had a snack. Well maybe move for that. Oh my God hilarious. Humorous changed just a little bit just a Tad. Chris Porter will be in at eleven by the way in studio and I should be back where where I can turn my my actual Mike off so I can do this Stuff like that. That'll be at eleven but we still got some show now. Rick why would you talk about the Cleveland Browns. I asked myself well. The browns sometimes can't get out of their own way. We know that and it wasn't exactly a surprise that the browns and assistant general manager Elliott Wolff decided to part ways yesterday after the team fired vice president of player Personnel Alonzo Highsmith just hours before so both of the now former members of the Cleveland. Browns front office were brought in by the X.. Gm John Dorsey who also quote unquote mutually parted ways on New Year's Eve. What was actually a bit of a surprise is how wolf's departure appears to have brought his father ron out of the woodwork to do talk some smack? y'All and get his sons back. Ron woolfe by the way is eighty one and and the architect was some great teams with the raiders. And then after that the Green Bay packers but Ron woolfe had had some things to say about how the browns are set up as he got the back of his son. WHO's thirty seven and he was speaking with Chris Mortenson of ESPN and Chris Mortenson? Jason said that Ron woolfe said that the browns and others who embrace the analytics driven model are quote unquote out of control. He said when something goes wrong who takes responsibility there answer. Well that's what the data told us. What a crock? That's what got him one and thirty one. So Ron truly seems like someone who would be the perfect representative senator of the Anti Analytics Movement and football member. Jon Gruden said that he wanted to take football back to one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. That's what he said before all these analytics analytics and by gave Kappler says he writes with a quill inkwell so I guess he wants to take baseball back to seventeen ninety eight but This is a guy who is I said. He l Davis gave me start as a scout and he retired as a front office executive shortly after the turn of the century. Iran has a very You know his. He's very close with his son. Obviously an Being a part of that community And having Super Bowl rings rings plural means that his opinions are loud and they carry some weight big credibility now in two thousand sixteen the Analytics Minded Front Office for the browns. Wanted to hire Sean McDermott. As the team's head coach and Jimmy Haslem ultimately intervened to bring in Hugh Jackson instead and the results speak for themselves as McDermott has. It's taken the bills to the postseason twice the bills who went through decades of no playoffs twice three years. Here's his record is twenty five and twenty three Jackson in two and a half seasons we know was three thirty six and one and then the browns Greg Williams who said I've gotten eleven offers to be a head coach. He replaced him halfway through the year and did a better job. Bob and won more games than Jackson did in two and a half years but then he got fired and then they brought in Freddie Kitchens and then he got fired so now it's Greg's the Penske have fun with that comes over from the Vikings offense coordinator so really this whole situation you could say is what's great about nepotism here if the parent of a normal person decided to blast a former employer. It would mean nothing and it might even be humiliating William. But when Elliott's dad does it the opinion becomes a national story. And I'm with Ron woolfe. In the way about now this is what the data tells us. I remember my disdain. For data it started a long time ago. What comes to football sometimes? It's just horrendous. Like when somebody said Stamford route was the highest rated corner of Mike. No no I watched Stanford writing. He he stunk yet. But the data data says the data. What does the data say? Well the data says he's really good. Oh the data. Says he's really good. I can't I can't get getting in. I know I'm just not interested not interested in what the data says but like I said there are people who feel that you just can't ignore it. I think it's dumb to ignore it. I really do no matter what sport you're in if somebody comes to you and go look we've done some research and this pitcher. Once he hits eighty pitches against lefties. His batting average against I is seven. Twenty five wow all right. I'll keep an eye on that then. It'd be dumb to say who cares. It's got nothing to do with anything anything now. It does have something to do anything but if you get a matchup let's see the pictures having a great day that day. You just go with data you say I'm I'm sorry but I just I can't I can't I can't do this. I'm sorry I don't know about that tomorrow. On the show Shannon Sharpe and Joe thighs men will join us. We'll get their thoughts on the Super Bowl as well. One hundred seventy eight play not get in. I sometimes wonder some of these teams though as you hire Paul Di Pedestrian. Who learned under Billy Bean Gene? Right and billy bean is the guy who said You know it's all about analytics and you know people say it all like when the as picked up this Guy Diekmann out of a left hander. In his era was over six. And I'm like Oh this is a pickup and people are just doesn't understand what it is and I'm like okay. What's his numbers against lefties? Now they're hitting three seventy three. You don't understand the data the data look I want some them data but I want runs hits errors E. R. A.. The things like that. That's what I want. So if you WANNA get analytical you can and that's fine if you figure something out but I mean as Ron Woolfe said what are the analytics. The browns three thirty six wh-what of the analytics gotten the as they have have not won a pennant since Jose Canseco was on the team and this is the team that traded Jose Canseco as well. It's like We don't we don't need him anymore. Because I'm Sandy Alderson and I am the I'm a genius. I WANNA world series. where the blue is there any coincidence that they have not wanNA pennant since I say not? That's what I say all right As I said The Andrew Luck Andrew Lock. Oliver Lock is GonNa come through on the other side. Anything about Oliver Luck is he is the commissioner of the XFL and the XFL is gonNA in a kickoff this year. I don't know if you noticed but it It's twenty twenty girlfriend and so I'm just wondering if you're interested interested in that as well the the way I look at it is. I'm a lover of sports played well and to me. It just seems like watered-down football but I don't WanNa take away your joy if you're really looking forward to it then I hope you have a great time with it. I really do I just. I don't think it's GonNa Ready for me. I don't know I could. You gotta stay open minded don't you. We'll talk to Oliver next. 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Sometimes it's a little bit hard to facilitate these interviews. Because and I've been there. It's your on radio row and your PR person has has Booked you for a certain slot and then you're talking to this guy and that guy and that can this guy and sometimes it can get a little bit Bounced around a little bit but WE'LL GET OLIVER WE'LL we'll throw him in one. Eight hundred eight seven eight player the number to call if you'd like to get in one eight hundred eight seven eight some five to nine By the way Andrew also Andrew like it's been it's been forever since I've said Oliver Locks I keep saying Andrew I'm sorry but Oliver luck was also in charge who's the Ad West. Virginia where he went to college he also was in charge of the Houston Dynamo. Oh as well when they moved from San Jose all right not twelve in tea and he has TB. Maybe I shouldn't say that but Tampa Bay. Tom Brady La. What's the latest rumor? What's the latest ball face live? Well wants the Patriots. Season came to an end on wild card weekend. The talk shifted directly to Tom. Brady and New England are you staying. Are you going. What's the deal? Are you moving. That's because the guy who brought six trophies their last couple others to the giants. He's he's A. Ufa An unrestricted free agent for the first time in twenty years and he stood on the podium that night a couple of weeks ago and he kept his options is open and he admitted he didn't know what he was going to do exactly which was a talking point that he has stuck to whenever he's been asked about. What are you doing next year? You'RE GONNA RETIRE GONNA keep playing and going back to New England. Are you going to Start a shoe store on. But this has led ed to of course folks ranging from the bizarre to the familiar to come up with some of these different rumors. I that they've had and we will get into All the ups and downs and that because NFL rumors about. But as I mentioned. We've got Oliver Oliver luck now. And it's great to have him with us. And he is the commissioner of the The XFL in a second incarnation and all. Thanks for being on the show and I remember when I was in high school. You're the quarterback of the the oilers and that was kind of the tradition from the Earl Campbell. Dan Passerini Love Ya blue. Were you still a little love. You blew their whole I've I don't think that the days are five numbers of mine. It was you're right. It was the transition from those bumps Phillips teams that were were loaded loaded with the bunch of older guys. Kenny Perot's you know Double Zero Robert Robert Brazil Hall of Famer. A bunch of guys that were earl Most most acutely as opposed. You know. They were they were. They were known. So there was a transition going on to What automatically became a pretty good squad under zooey Glenville? Warren Moon joined the team much better in quarterback than I was at backup orange for a number of years and they rebuilt it with great offensive offensive line. Think about Bruce Matthews Mike on-track Dean Stein Cooler Just a really strong offensive. It was a fun someplace for me to be a backup. Now that I think think about it I remember the wildcard game. When the Raiders won the Super Bowl you must have succeeded Kenny? Stabler then right when you so when I was drafted the the odor's had just traded Passerini for stabler straight up right trade. You don't often see between quarterbacks and Kenny was at the very end of his career career As we used to say about Kenny you studied the playbook by the light of the jukebox. And you know he He kinda played out string. I think the only played about a half here With your letters that we we picked up another older star quarterback archie manning and that was my introduction on the manning. Thanks family in fact as the as the backup to to Archie before Warren sign. Archie would fly over from New Orleans and usually bring a couple of his kids. You know including tate eight. I was babysitting Peyton manning when he was about. I don't know seven or eight years old for a day or two taking the price cream or any. Really PUTT. PUTT or whatever. That's just amazing raising that. Not only did you did that. And then your son of course was a number one overall pick. I mean it's just it's too interesting. We'll get to the XFL in the second one more question is I'm a soccer fan when you where the GM and president of the Dynamo when they basically left San Jose clash last earthquakes before they came back. Didn't can you guys WanNa pick the year of independence Houston eighteen. Whatever they thought it would be too offensive to mexican-americans or something which I thought it was weird because we don't the seventy sixers aren't offensive to the British? I don't know what was that all about. Yeah so it was. It was probably my most trying moment. You know as as an executive at this crazy business of sports world but the earthquake moved down We literally early January with the season starting in March so we barely had time to you know to do anything quite honestly and we had to give the team a name and we gave the team to name eighteen thirty six houston eighteen thirty a six and that was the year that the city of Houston was founded. I by the Allen Brothers way back when and that's a little bit of a European tradition and even American tradition like the forty niners the seventy sixers and and whatever you go over to you know to Germany and there's a great club Schulkin zero four founded nineteen or daddy of that how about oxygen oxygen units sexy mentioned Munich. Yeah you're an awesome exhibition. Yeah so there's lots of those examples so we thought it made some centers kind of Nice. You know classical sort of soccer tradition to do that and then immediately I mean not more than twenty minutes after press conference a bunch of Friends of mine You know who are Latino Guy Guys. They call them today. I know he's was founded in eighteen thirty six but that's also that Mexico lost Texas in northern northern provinces. You Know California being the other And immediately got a lot of push back a lot of grease et CETERA. So Oh you know. We decided the best course of action was to rename it You know after about a week maybe a week and a half to the Houston Dynamo. Here's the funny part. If you know you're eastern European History Dynamo teams like Moscow. Dynamo Kiev. Dynamo they were the teams of I read the local secret police Dresden to I'm addressing exactly right so that had its own baggage but nobody picked up on that news and so you're stuck with it. I think it's a great name. Also name literally means the same thing which is helpful for like Houston. Yeah that is ironic you that the more controversial name is the one that was perfectly fine And by the way those correct those early Dynamo teams right dominant. Konare was our head coach. They were dominant go to analysts cups in a row great players and that's going to be Dom Caen Ear put together unbelievable teams that Every benefited trump that. Yeah he's he's from the East Bay like myself and I remember you guys were so good that Wandel Ascii was surplus to requirements. There was a backup. Hardly solid field. Rosaria was scoring goals. Bryant Chink I think one of the all time favorites Pat Onstad goal your Bryant Lullin and Wade Barrett Craig liable. It was just a really. We added Stuart Stuart Holden Who played with US listeners? A couple of years it was just a really great spot. I'm still a close friend and Do not always be sort of you know appreciative of what. What are you bring up a championship caliber team down to us down? And then holding onto the premier league not too bad all right let's talk about the The XFL all. I remember going to a San Francisco Demons game over at. At and T.. Park where the The giants play and and then we know it It didn't last long but now it's back and a lot of people people after seeing what happened to the alliance. They have one eyebrow raise. But this time around you guys got it right right. We have it right absolutely no question about it. I think I think it's fair to be somewhat sceptical given the out of the past history of spring linked leagues including what happened to the alliance but I think we've got a number of things that differentiate us one is. Vince McMahon and his resources. And that's a lot of plant. I've been on the job now for almost two years. And we've been able to plan higher great coach Bob Stoops and June Jones and get players lined up any camps training camps etcetera. Give us time to build. You know these rosters and build the squad's the second reason is something that I think is going to be really important for us. And that's the power of our podcast partners. You know we've Got Fox. ESPN ABC Broadcasting our games every every Saturday afternoon on every Sunday afternoon and or easy to find right. Noli Nolita Liga's had That kind of coverage coming out of this shoot. So that's going to be helpful. The cirque thing is something that I really believe in football right now. All Pro Ball College ball is being played unbelievably high level. Maybe there's problems at the lower level in terms of participation high school kids but at the peak at the at the Apex Apex of the triangle. There's just great talent and You know the whole dame has been elevated that send so the guys that we have. I really better than ever. I look at some of the guys that you know we saw in our training camp down in Houston. Sammy Coats for example Auburn Wide Receiver. Third around pick by the steelers back in sixteen. He's playing for Houston rough next June Jones. I'd say wow I'm glad this guy's Dr Lee you might dominate right And should probably be the NFL that was obviously. He's not but there's so much good talent and I believe Kinda. Get the right coaches which I think we have and get the right talent You know that extra then of Eh rule innovations that we have we WANNA play this UPTEMPO fast paced game. I think that's a good recipe for success and the less it's GonNa be hard. There's no question about that Vince. Against Vince knows it's not going to be just a one year thing. It's GONNA take a couple of couple of three years really get distant growing. Well that's the thing any startup knows that you're going to lose money for a few years. And that was is the problem with the alliance. They had won money guy who pulled out and that killed it right. Yeah I mean if you look back at it a lot of the Spring Leagues There are two things seem to happen. You know one lack of capital lack of staying power. The second thing is bad decisions I would say like you. Listen to you. Know the leave the screen where they had a pretty good thing going back into the early eighties. Donald Trump and they left in the fall. You know the way to compete with the. NFL is it's not to compete compete with the NFL. GonNa Compete with Major College always great institutions. So you know I think if you can take this great great talent combined with great coach great broadcast partners Play Good Chris. Football stay in the spring state discipline. I think there's a there's a pretty good shot that we can correct asleep successful well Just one final question we just have about a minute and a half here would be because the one thing about the NFL. We do love it but we find some of the rules maddening saddening and with the competition committee. They change the rules almost every year. Five six new things and then things we go out and they come back we had instant replay than it went away and it came back back. What's a catch? What's not a catch? What are some of the you know one or two things that you guys are innovative about that rule? Wise has a couple of things that we're doing doing I'll just I'll just put up. Pick onto one is a twenty five second clock. NFL's got a forty second play clock Rs. Twenty five that that makes us place Hass like The head coach is not just talking to the quarterbacks through the headset but he's talking to all the skill players on the offensive team so huddle really doesn't become necessary and that I think will help. Helpless play fast. The second thing is what are the. What are the innovations? I really like extra point. After you score a touchdown that six points or a traditional you've got an for one point point-to-point or a three point extra point right. There all plays from scrimmage. Okay and they're you know the further you go away the more points you can get the extra points game. But that's it's just strategy right so anytime you can add strategy and do a game I think fan like it because what are we doing with Sandy. That's all the decisions that coaches make so so We think we have a number of innovations. We think they make some sense. They're all based on a pretty solid rationale. which is is this going to help us as innovation can help us play the fast way up tempo score points and that'd be a fun leaks fans it's Commissioner of the XFL Oliver Lock and what people like him in charge? You know it's in Good hands you got a lot of experience. All thanks for being on the show. Best of luck in. Let's talk again sometime all right. Good stuff armored camelback. It could. I'm GonNa tell you how you can get unreal healthcare for as little as six dollars a day. 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It's an Oliver. Lock is a very bright guy. I could talk to him just about soccer the whole time but you know you need you need smart guys like that to You know for for these leagues. I mean Vince. McMahon is a great promoter and marketer. But he doesn't know anything about football so he's smart. He hired people who do know about football ball. Now you could say the alliance did that too with Bill Polian so you never know fingers crossed for those guys armored. It'll come back. Yeah Ah You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting live twenty percents and our by newsbeat. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by you follow us on facebook twitter and instagram's instagram's old of new service going newscasts for January twenty nine twenty twenty I might Clifford President. Trump's defense team appealed to the Senate Tuesday to disregard agnew account by John Bolton that bolsters the impeachment case against the president. Good that from the New York Times they report by days and Republican leaders indicated. They had not corralled the votes they needed to prevent the former national security advisor. Sir or other witnesses from coming forward the Times notes on the final day of arguments toast behalf. Jay seculow sought to raise doubts about Bolton's claim psycho colder older unsourced allegation that he intends his inadmissible at the impeachment. Trial California maybe leader in many areas but overall child well being is not one of them. That's according to a new report. Suzanne Paula reports for us. The latest children's report card from the nonprofit children now gives California California. A GRADE OF C minus overall the only eighth grade in the sixteenth semi annual analysis is for kids health coverage as only three percent of California children. Children remain uninsured children. Now President Ted lumper says that's because the state has moved aggressively to cover all kids including those who are undocumented. Anything that but what happens when our state leaders really focused and set a goal and we get there. Almost twenty percent of our kids were uninsured just a couple of decades ago so this has been real progress on that front. However the State got a grade of D. Plus for affordable childcare because only fourteen percent of low income families can get their children interstate subsidized care the report also notes? That child care workers make very low wages. which has led to a shortage? Report found California California ranks among the lowest in the nation on per pupil spending for K.. Through twelve education as well as a preventative health screenings for kids covered by Meta cow and Kentucky lawmakers or considering putting an excise tax on e cigarettes sold in the Commonwealth the tax would be equal to the current tax on traditional cigarettes. 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This spring it is a risky crop but so prior years were eager to make it work the. USDA established an interim role last fall to regulate hemp production. In Ohio was one of the first states to have its hemp program approved who by federal regulators has very labor intensive crop typically grown on five acres or less. Julia ran with the Ohio. Hemp farmers. Cooperative Explains Leans farmers also face a somewhat murky regulatory environment and she doesn't think will make much profit at the start. It's a brand. New Industry has been growing this plant for more than four years anywhere in the US so to say that we can just start out and be so strict on his regulations and have to comply with all of these. I just really worn. This is a risky business. Taya nears that are trying to make this work. The rules in Ohio are still being written and give you finalized by state. Legislators in the coming weeks growing and processing licenses could be available in March just ahead of planting season me wally public comment period on the USDA's in rural and today Mary Sherman reporting this story was produced with original reporting from Maria mcguiness at Kent State a public comment period on the USDA's as interim rule and today the twenty twenty cents kicks off at about two months a lot on the line for states like Missouri children under eighteen a cow roughly twenty two percent of all missourians directive says its operations John Cycle says if children are in that twenty twenty tally. The state will miss out on crucial federal dollars. We don't I want people forget. The littlest one's counting. Our children means education childcare roads bridges infrastructure for the next ten years. And we just don't want Missouri's children children to be less doubted at national picture. They should wide nearly five percent of kids under age. Five were not counted in the assets. Finally are Mike Bowen reports some some Minnesota Lakes invasive species are limiting the growth of a popular Fish University of Minnesota researchers say the culprits are Zebra Mussels and spiny water flea. We the researchers found in legs where their president they can reduce the grow size of Walleye between twelve and fourteen percent the species takeaways zoo plankton. A food source. For the fish Geoff Forrester. WHO has the Group of Minnesota lakes and rivers advocates says the findings should spur stronger action by the state to prevent the spread of these species? What we've been doing this kind of emphasis on educational personal responsibility? That's not getting it done. I think it's slow the spread but it certainly hasn't stopped stopped. Forester says he'd like to see the state adopt more stringent boat inspection policies such as making it a requirement for people getting an operator's licence the DNR has four strong limits for anglers. Some of those restrictions have been slowly lifted as while I makes a comeback in the popular lake. I'm Mike Clifford for public. Do Service we. They are member endless disappointed online public disservice dot. Org All right thank you for that. Welcome back to the show rip tittle with you. Coast to coast and around the world on American Forces Radio Network. Shout out to those troops listening as well because you know I I say it each the top of each hour so I say three times a day five days a week. I'd say it Basically Fifteen Times actually sixteen times a week because I do the video game review nine. PM Out here in San Francisco midnight on the East Coast. Technically Monday morning and So Sixteen Times a week. 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Yes our two of titillating sports to check me out our two three underway retailer with you in San Francisco because to coast and around the world on the American Forces Radio Network Work. You know we love talking to people with the science channel and there was a really cool brand new show that is gonNA kick off on Sunday February ninth so not Super Bowl Sunday. They're not going to do it then. They're smart. They're going to do the next Sunday nine o'clock or I should say eight o'clock on the ninth and it's called shipwreck secrets secrets and joining us now. Right now is marine biologist and underwater explorer. Michael Barnett Michael. Thanks for being on the show and I know that you guys have done a lot of different things. We'll talk about this but it really starts off with the SS Kota Paci. Is that how you say it Cotopaxi. How're you doing? Yes and so. That was a ship that disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle. In one thousand nine hundred eighty five. So I'll start with this. Do you believe in the Bermuda. Bermuda Triangle thing that like in the seventies. They were really pumping no actually You know the scientists I laugh at it and it was real as basically. It's the tooth fairy or the Easter Bunny My name is. Es trying up. United on air. But I really have no fun with the beach join whatsoever. So what is it about the Cotopaxi. That was so fascinating. Well it's one of the ships. It's one of you know hundreds relays special special about it At face value but it was whatever reason associated with the Billboard Premier Triangle This was a steamship. That departed Charleston in South Carolina. Nineteen twenty five head to Cuba with a cargo of coal and on it's about it disappeared. They abstract on it. So what we found out during a research trying to identify The wreck was that Vessel was in actually in a very bad disrepair. So maybe some company the Irresponsibility of keeping ship SHIPSHAPE and couple that with encountering a really bad so off the Florida coast Doomed the vessel wrestle put it on the bottom how does that work with international waters and claims and preservation. Because you know if you go down there and you find a treasure chest so to speak it may or may not be able to belong to you and some of them of course are You know a grave site eight as well. How do you deal with all the ramifications of that? Well that's a great question in something about Shipwreck Litigation and shipwreck ownership. Is You could do. You'll program that all by itself there's a lot of different laws that apply You get the aspect of sovereign immunity which applies to warships kind of us will fall in worship. Remain the property of that government indefinitely Then you have Other month whether say the vessels owned by insurance stuff just like your car is recognition. Pays you a check now. The Insurance Company owes that wreck Same with the vessel And so this is only really comes into play at their the cargo something of value right and trust care about Naming a dentist buying a wreck so we go down and try to find an artifact of the name it does so on it or nature a lot of times those laws really. Don't come into play Something of you know a US worship or something. I major now. The other thing is There are people. I don't know if we want to call them. Pirates but maybe opportunists it becomes public that. Hey you found this site and they're like well. I'm going to get there before the scientists get there right but that's the possibility Louis for a lot of shipwrecks in archaeology very concerned about you. Know plundering of historical shipwreck remains on this case. This is just a steamship It's actually been known tone for decades People fishing it for a long time. Dining experience fishing things of that nature. But no one's really everyone's overlook the history of it And so in this case it was nice to bill today on this under wreck I find the history of this is basically finding out on it. Ah Safety to very reasonable reasons. There's nothing supernatural paranormal about it. There's nothing like no influence whatsoever on this. The shipwreck couple. More questions for Michael Barnett of shipwreck secrets on the Science Channel How do you think about some of the submersibles we've seen over the years. And how the titanic was discovered but you can do a lot of the stuff on the water drones now right yeah I mean. Technology is imagine it's come a long way Whether it's you know start doing this thirty years ago was researching shipwrecks that go to libraries microfilm and do the old fashioned way announcing announcing do it online and talk to people across the world. An instance Same thing with died and technology You know whether it's the old school conventional Scuba In the past eighteen twenty years I've been using closer repressors computer controlled very high tech stuff. He bowed down for a lot longer and also RV's and Other seminars and stuff that allows you to find stuff and documents as much better than were able to do just a few years ago so technology has come a long way. Do you think that when you go to some of these these wrecks that The biggest thing the biggest peril for you would be just your own scuba equipment sharks things falling on you. I mean what. What's your number one safety concern? All the above I mean I always say you can draw in two inches of water so you have to. You know have mental physical shape. Don't sleep university in good shape Obviously watch the weather. You got critters out there. That sometimes will can be Quite an annoyance. So if take all these factors into play when you're doing a exploration on shipwreck site especially actually going deeper waters With a lot of current so that's all has to be considered now Not just the Cotopaxi oxy but You go around to smother ships as well and You know just as a World War One buff I think about Marlins head Ireland and the I'm wolf pack. That was out there and of course we know about the Lusitania but You found a ship out there as well right. Yeah that's a beautiful call justice. There's this show off now ahead and in doubt I was saying to myself and I mean there's now a history of the British isles island is just. It's just amazing. Thank you you know our country. You know there's only been health or a few hundred years but there's rex it A much older than our own country Here but Yeah fascinating. There's worships worships there's Submarines learners all sorts of stuff off nowadays. That's that's a little imagery of those episodes and A ghost ship If you think about World War Two and Chuck Lagoon Basically. There was a little little In a way Kinda Pearl Harbor payback there right exactly that was kind of our payback for Pearl Harbor and we caught All one little spot surveyed the attack decision and we put a lie. They're working on bomb looking to help the West it so that what was Yeah right and one last one. The lake serpent two hundred year old schooner and this was a A big deal back in back in its day in the Great Lakes right yes. Exactly very historical is also. That's another episodes that is detailed in the series. So we'll tune in Alexa play. Fake diving Reagan. Let's see see that would be Let's see Greg mugged are we'll figure out what's ahead is what the Hashtag back we've been speaking with the Diver the scientists himself. You'll watch him. It's Michael Barnett and the series on the science channel shipwrecks secrets were all fascinated with this stuff. It'll be a two hour special premier February nine th that Sunday night at eight o'clock Michael. Congratulations on this show and Hopefully if we talk about season two together I look forward to it. Thanks a lot all right good stuff. I'm Rick Tuttle come off Are you over fifty. Would you like like to get up to thirty three percents more income in retirement than call now for this free book. Annuity do's and don'ts for baby boomers from leading financial firm on maximizing your income in retirement. That's right free. This free book reveals little known truths about annuity in simple to understand terms. That will help. You make the right choices before a buying an annuity. And it's free as a bonus we'll also throw in a free annuity rates report summarizing the rates benefits from financially strong insurers. That's right right annuity. Do's and don'ts for baby boomers and annuity rate report. Both absolutely free for calling today. Eight hundred seven two zero five nine seven one one. 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The tight end Shannon Sharpe to the program From Radio Arose Super Bowl fifty four. He's here on behalf of chroma decks and I'll get to that in a second but the Shannon first of all. Do you have a dog in this fight. I know your your friends and a lot. The guys on on both teams. What do you think well look? I know cow Shanahan. Since he was ten years old I went to super bowl with his. Dad is going to be hard for me to break family up. I know John Lynch I. I'm I'm probably the biggest Patrick Mahomes fan and all the world but it's just going to be. It's just hard the gift support. And now there's no cow Shanahan Is On that sideline and his dad. Who was a big influence on my life and helped me win some roles and help me get to the the hall of fame is just going to be hard for the pick family now? I hear you now. We got two of the best tight ends going at it in Kelsey and and kill. I got a chance to talk to George Kill a couple of weeks ago and just his blocking is amazing and he told me at the University of Iowa. They told him if you don't block you're not gonNA play tied in. What do you think about these two guys? They're unbelievable the chew chew trimming and tiny all football. They're very good. They can do a lot of things. James Count Similar I think Chelsea is just a little better catching the football Chelsea. I think is a little better of the all around of the two players But I wouldn't be disappointed if I had either. One of them both tremendous ended a run after the catch. Both have huge. Catch radius. Catch Radius Both the game changes. And that's what you wanted that position. You won't guy that changed the the game and beef guys. A game changes their bread at any given time to get six. Put Six points on the board They are the two best at their position and football. You always played play the game with I think a lot of joy and his big and imposing strong as you were you seem to play with a smile a lot of the times I remember watching hard knocks. You had the bucket hat on you. Were Yeah Yakking it up is is it important to have those moments of levity like that I think you know. Look you have to enjoy what you do. You know the saying if you enjoy what you do you'll never have to work a day in your life And I I thoroughly enjoy what I did It gave me an opportunity to To provide for my family and weighs probably that I would not have had not play the game of football. I realized that you know it is a game. Now it's my profession but if the game And I I was one of those guys that I was serious but I didn't take myself too serious I I thought I could. I could balance the two. I can be serious and and what I needed to be but I could also have fun when I needed to be when I wanted to. And so I was very fortunate to have coaches that. Let me be me They didn't try to suppress sequester. My personality Alex and I think they got the best shems sharp possibly be. You know. It's funny when I look at guys like Te'o and Ocho Cinco who say I could still play. Do you ever watch like Monday night. Football game think in that tight end right now. No I didn't play but I don't think I'm better than anybody right now. Fifty one about to be fifty two so I'm almost almost down. I don't WanNa take those anymore. Those lakes were hard. They hurt when I was in my twenties and thirties. There's no chance I missed all my licks and try to get into my fifty. They can take punishment absolutely. Not all right. I hear you And I played in high school and division to I always wonder about cte. Like if I get out of the shower or and I forgot to use shampoo or something. Do you ever think about that. How you feel in man I feel good but no I don't think about it? It's called getting old. I mean they're they're you know and you'd be the time when people didn't play sports and we're forgetful. Forget their key and forget they did something and now anytime something. It goes wrong with a football player. That's what they might be the case but there has not been one time I can honestly say there's not one time I thought man I might have C. T. okay. I've played I played. I played a collision sport. Twenty six year the tackle football from from the time. I was nine years old when I retired at almost thirty six so proudly Ola. But there's no guarantee had not played football. I wouldn't have gotten cte. So but what I was able to do for my family provide for my family give. My grandmother lives and my kids are life. They've never enjoy having not. I'll take whatever comes along with it. Yeah there were senile people before football. Yeah Yeah but you know you look and and that's the thing I mean you know you play soccer and you're paying here I mean you. You bought keep combat sports but eventually we all going to leave here for some reason. Yeah no doubt about a couple more questions for Shannon Sharpe. Of course you know I'm on the undisputed with skip bayless Lamar Jackson is probably GonNa be the MVP for good reason he. He's one of the most fearless players I've ever seen I I. I loved him in in the draft. I couldn't believe the scrutiny that he had but what do you. What do you tell a kid like that? He's you know two years in the League over two in the playoffs just to not get down There are a lot of guys. I mean Payton Manning see I think the thing of what we what we what has happened is for Tom. Brady got spoiled because we that every type of quarterback given football in the playoffs and even good. He should win and that that only happens. We're Tom Especially early in his career but no he he knows he needs to get even better at throwing the football. I believe he will just see where he came from last year. I just see where he is this year. Can you imagine even if it doesn't take a job as big as it was last year to this year even if he just takes a small a five. Hi percent jump. I believe he jumped fifty six percent last year. Just imagine a five percent jump. He's GonNa be unbelievable because his legs still going to be dynamic with his leg and eventually eventually he's GonNa say you know what I don't really need to run. I thought about from the pocket but it's nice to know I got a fallback plan that if I if there's nothing there I can take off and run. He's he's unbelievable. I enjoy watching him and he just had an off game and that's what they're saying that we love about football is that you have it all game. You're go home. There's no theories. Well well we made that all we gotta go go steal one on the road like in baseball basketball steal one on the road and we got home field back. It doesn't work like that football. You get one chance Dan all day you go home no doubt about it. It's well said another thing you know. We've had a lot of man sad news and sports lately obviously but To hear recently that Chris Doleman lost a battle with cancer. And he's just a few years older than than than you and me but I mean I think the mostly as a viking but just one of the most most impressive defensive anti averaging ten sacks a year for fifteen years what what do you think about Chris man man. I'm so I'm so sorry to hear that and I remember him telling me At the hall of fame because I had just hall of fame the year the poor and helping Chris was getting around walking talking and then he comes back the next year any you know he has that and I'm like what happened. He's like man. I was just playing golf and I and I went to the doctor and they told me this And it it. It's so sad. Had you know like I said I play. I played against Dole for a number of years and to see that happening. And just so you know you just hate that your heart just goes out to the family and just hope hopefully They can find peace and solace that. No that that Chris is in a better place. All right well. Let's talk about Chroma decks because it's talking talking about like we're all going to age if we're lucky. So how do we improve on that. Well I think protocol true You know getting up at three. Am in the morning and in prepping for show and and then shooting a live TV show for two and a half hour and trying to work out and maintain. You know a healthy lifestyle. The energy that I used to have in my thirties and forties weren't weren't there. It was starting to dissipate and I needed something to help. Get me through. The day started taking nine and I noticed that my energy level started to come back so I continue to take it and taking it for the last fifteen sixteen month and I've noticed a big difference in my workout in my in my focus throughout the course of the day. All right we've been speaking with Shannon Sharpe as I said undisputed and One of the great tight ends of all time Super Bowl champ many times over and in the hall of Fame Shannon. Thanks for your time and your insights. No this is year busy time of the year. Enjoy the game and hopefully hopefully we'll catch up soon. All right all right. I'm rick to the we'll take a quick break. We'll come back on sports pilot. Actually we got a couple of minutes here and if you WANNA get in in real quick it's one eight hundred eight seven eight play. You know I remember going to that A._F._C.. Championship game at the Oakland Coliseum and Man oh man.

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"Get real comfortable for me. Will we keep playing like we are going to keep this thing going and and you should. You should because i'm telling you you you advertise this happen having a face for radio but you gotta face for hd high quality four k. Eight eight km camera with that with that lesbian smug. I'm trying to tell him you know being this fat. You know the has fallen out. When i got left turning gray a gift you know a listen man One gigabit shoutout to two apps that tv our friends As we know hats offers the world class broadcasting tools and the community of the laboratory and simple wave of us the support creators financially. One of bank. Our friends on youtube in paris school in facebook and of course speaker and hardens. However does she get the podcast. Wanna say welcome welcome. Welcome bucko last week. We you were so low because we were waiting for big t- big t would his No show i think attention notional because the saints were getting ready to lay the bucks We'll we'll address that later on. Because of i but i will say to you. Thank you listen to you. Go back and forth hem and haw. I made one hundred fifty dollars last week. In abed a buckle told me so i'm a to just say you know the rule of them thank you ten percent. I sweet near losing a week. You know extremely confident was saying you know. Other obligations did not get to partaken my own wise words. That's my own fault sitting here own something nice but year. Man sprayed jump into anything and talk about championship row. I guess a losing notes wanna talk with you this going back and forth. This thing with shawn. Watson is starting to remind him as i'm starting to get the feeling of james harden. I'm not paying knows what not a bad suit. But i'm like his is doing starting to be persona non grata and he doesn't seem to be one to even the slightest involved with This thing the texans. This is something that houston because houston rockets. Houston texans will should take. I was gonna say that. Maybe something's in the water down there. coming out of port arthur galveston area. I don't know what's going on but When your organization is run in such a way were best player. Top five player league right now is wanting out and running out. Because you're not doing what you told him you were going to do that. That's a messy messy situation. That job went from you. Know what we talked about this couple of years ago. A couple a couple of weeks ago. I this job maybe number two on my list because of the shaw. What's even. Though they have cat problems they have no draft picks for the first two rounds. I still had it as a high job. Because of that guy. Now of your eric enemy of your bryant. Able if you're one of these guys houston listen a place to go because you know you ever quarterback only money now. You don't have a quarterback. I don't know how much this is. Real man has posted a bunch of subliminal stuff on twitter is not getting any definitive statement him nor his agent saying he's asking for a trade Don't hurt. He hasn't leveraged in that regard for trade. But there's smoke there's fire and that is a whole bunch smoke signals coming off of that that situation. It's tough day from saint john and alone Mark our ceo of the hats team. Thank you guys for sending a shoutout I don't know. I just get a feeling like he's done. He's thrown his last past. What the texans. And now it's kind of like what other deals are out. There a could be repaired. I don't know that it's done. No one says it's done because you just sign this this extension last year after. That arbitrated hopkins. Who was after. You already had an inkling in your brain. There was going to be some shakeup bill. O'brien probably wouldn't gonna remain you. Sign that context into knowing all of that. So years you zang. We came at this point in the beginning january. Now here we sit on january twenty first world two worlds different apart. i don't like that to be aggregate. I think there's a whole bunch of stuff being done out there. A whole bunch of fodder declared bait. I haven't gotten any fadul information from any source. Mcnair team very much mall here. Saying i know if i'm houston. I don't give a damn. I'm not trading him. I have delivered. He's over conjugal for four more years is a no dre goals in his contract. Sit out on finding forty grand a day until you come back. I'm not going to trade you. I have the leverage. The that's the way i would pay. It may not seem over well. But that's that's what i wanted. Thanks through the more for the hi fi award definitely appreciated Got a great platform here. More got a lotta great Collaborators here another one on your hands. Hey with the show on. I just you know i just don't know i just get the feeling. There is no going back but then again there's going back because he's under contract is under contract. And who's gonna number one who's gonna take. The contract was wooder. What's a package together. Bucko someone like the show jackson. You know the dent. The jets have would by ninety seven peaks over the next were two years. We got everywhere. But i mean sean taxes in the winter i like to say he is. He is a definite winner. But what do you think. I think i watched a bomber big. If you're ranking the top five five to seven quarterbacks in the league every single person that that we'll have list we'll have him in. It is twenty six years old winter. Every level is coming and did amazing things without the andre options without a defense still heavily in passing put insane numbers would nobody there with them. No running game know dead last in the league on defense and lebron bowl. He did it all himself so yes he his trademark it is trained value is sky hot. They'll that contract actually pretty good considering level. He's point so i think the jets. Jags the falcons you can give me twelve teams in the league right now. We'll give up whatever houston. Ask for to get that player. And that's where you gotta be weary way. This everybody wants to give us all their assets for our asset. Are we better off keeping what we already have here. So they're gonna find a way to make right make up and five. That's what i think. More down to just checking a text message ranked now and it's so ironic Peter on definitely gonna get back to you. I'm seeing the text. They've allied chauvel right now. if i'm you know i'm a jets apologies. I would say i know that sam darnold's i did and and i've been a supporter of donald. But i'm gonna tell you all along that i will trigger rude lucia blanket for a second technical difficulties. I'm sure everybody is on some kind of virtual bandwith right is still much virtual bandwidth with going Going on in the house. It's it's got three dollars. Mark connection probably run about six megs. So hopefully i can stay on the one the one gay connection you can stop playing around. And that's what i do for a living. That's what we install. But i don't have it here. I'm seventy five a comcast line. So as seen before. I will pull the trigger if i was jets management before the trigger. I'm definitely. I would love to have a conversation with watson to kind of see. What makes them tick we do. They said that the man's been on vacation they haven't even spoken to each other. You is that inch remake rules. I mean i'll deal with it. What i want to deal with it. I just gave you six months and bald and play through injury in one four game. I don't even want to think. Houston i'm in barbados drinking my ties. I'll call you when i'm gonna to tori. It's on here. We'll table dishonor jackson. He's been walking real slow since inside. Oh hey i wanted. I do want to answer crispy a crystalline. Thank you for the show. your question is i got the million dollar question or covering the super bowl covering super bowl sunday Good question. chris not live not live little with libation born on the cover live. But i'm sure there's some sun some aspect of it. I definitely down to the late night parents to do a a prey super bowl or even call it super bowl. We pre super bone her owl. This will definitely get back to you. Because kim i would love to definitely cover it. You know this aspect of it. But i would have to sit in talk about it with with a bucko and embiid t in. We didn't have that conversation yet. now are you talking about play by play or he just talking about pre game. Show chris. Chiefs will land. Choose mogul and we're going to give you a minute so faster. So hey why were here. Tell me this much. There's only what six spots open Six available coaching spots open. I believe the jets got the pick of the litter of the available coaches the coaches that they were mentioning of. You know never coached before or you know. Never been a head coach on with their option. But mark my questions you specifically get into their. They'll options who would wear. Why would anyone take that detroit john. Honestly that's where. I thought robin sala was gonna go because of he's from there the school their families there. He's an avid detroit. Lions fan Richard sherman on his bathrobe letter to the governor. Asking them to please hire them. You know what. I mean so everything lined up and he admitted he wanted that job of whatever reason. Detroit didn't hire that guy. Has that guy for what i saw on the press conference today. Probably wanna crazies person. I've ever seen do a press conference manifests that was the wildest most rage field introductory conference. I think you'll ever see it. Sounded like a w promo dusty rhodes hopes to the detroit lions. I don't know what that's going on. I just wanna comment back to to chris. Chris potentially pregame and postgame. Yes maybe something short impromptu. Dr half is a possibility. Also thank you for wiring and also we need to speak with you know. are different at hats He said he wants to encourage the foodies. Do a food super bowl under saying this is a good promoting perhaps yes it definitely. Is you get this fat boy. Wouldn't let's go. We're gonna have a spread of here. So i mean i'm totally totally off right now but for you know the last week i mean me just my dad. Our over here We just had you know burgers we had harm hoagies and you know mash mashed potatoes and i think i had some dirty rights that were like in like just super bowl sundae road again. No me personally took. My team is playing. I try to eat something. Regionally centered around with the team. I'm playing late last last weekend. We had po boys and cajun crab dip mardi grow wings and all that good stuff and then we wash it down with a nice tampa bay. Victory was beautiful So this week. I think i'm gonna go with like some some fried cheese or something. Maybe some braatz some some line and google years. Something like that. We try to be a geo specific with our food choices so rundown of the positions that were taken there the the opportunities that we take in what worst job julia taking me. Personally into the job. I would have wanted day. One opportunity number one was la and that is also my least favorite higher. I mean i think daily did a good job there in la. Coaching that defense. But we all know. Wade phillips and company put that together got it all rolling and there's a whole bunch of all pro level guys on the defense and i don't really think that guy was a real channels to Making that divas sense what i'm saying. He's not am i is. I don't know him as a great coach. I don't know people who long before this before. That but i honestly think you got a hot young quarterback that's young talent skill position young town defense to build around me. I'm getting a proven often coach and praying. You make it coordinator just to improve that defense. A little bit They went the other way around and unproven. Defensive guy Wanted to check and see i. I am liking the trend. I'm seeing ted so far. No retread coaching all new younger coordinators. First time guys. I write that chain. I'm tired of the dan. Reed trades in lovey. Smith's leslie frazier getting all these jobs. i like to see new blood so unit happy. If you show up again daimler detroit or even the jets team that is in such disarray. As dysfunction a guy like there with with his track record the discipline and building the program at least to some level of stability i would i would have thought that would be a good higher there. I think the jets in terms still made a good higher like roberson lot. I think he's going to bring some some attention eastern swagger tonight team which is what you need at that nut job you've had the past couple of years Speaking of jobs in detroit. I said you probably have to be crazy to take that job and gentlemen that press conference talking about eating people's kneecaps i think he just might be crazy enough to be perfect for the job team. Let's see what happens. But it seemed like so many different coaches that choose the detroit route. They flame out So i guess my question is what is the shelf life of an nfl head coach here lately. It's been two years used to be you. Get three to five. You know you win a super bowl. You're guaranteed five years beheld. Doug pearson's deputy two years. So i don't even know anymore man. It's almost like you've got to win games and win the battle. You know what i mean. You can't be like a patricia. He's got fired for lions. Can't be losing games looking sloppy and your your adds to the media and everything to an ass to your players. You know what i mean. If you're a locker room guy that locker room fight for you and they find very like they did down atlanta landholders years. You get a little bit more leeway you know about six years something like that. But i'm i'm thinking every dentist on getting your first two years cutting bait quicker than what. We're used to pretty alarming was. The quarter was their defensive coordinator name. He used to be in dc for the patriots and he was a coach for the lions producer. And wasn't he the next best thing and it was in a layman's the engineer or astrologist you someone that it seemed like the nfl highland. He got the job in three thirteen. The first year and then regaining or two and a half. I think he won seven games career. There wasn't good flamed out. He lost the team. Lost the fan base Didn't look the part didn't act depar- he wins like mit. or something. and some wisden. And yes i'll take guy and I think that what we just saw with him being fired. And then you know the rumors josh mcdaniels and everything and then decided to go with the crazy. Choice there in philly. I think we finally reached the end of that tree by trying to get the next bill jake because all of his disciples and flamed out miserably. Been pretty was the only one that had the chance with the mini. Need to kane kinda like the simple. Gm and coach euro even questionable with record. But the minute he got that over power. That was the beginning of end right. Yeah you could see. He started losing the locker room When you trade the guy like the diop and you you don't get the first round pick back after you already lost your first in sacramento pay trading. That left tackle that you pay a large amount of money. You team has no cap your veteran later. Jj watt is pissed off. Your quarterback leaders pissed off He had to get fired. You saw rack. Romeo grenell cat tip to him. He tried to do with the crib team. But it is hard to win when you have that many deficiencies and bill o'brien. Kate pointed anybody but himself. For the whole lack of depth on net roster and lack of continuity is team. He messed everything up. One second bucco so to me. This march i just want to go back to to show him watson taken offline. There's a lot of movement going on in my household So sean was brought in so okay. So he got the contract last year. Right all right. Everyone loves him. he's a great person. Community blah blah blah blah didn't own the sound like i mean we're hearing the second or third person on through adam schefter Talk didn't bring in in bringing into the table to have that conversation on the next coach. Gm and you know the the the external consulted agency there. It's going to hire those positions ryan. That's the thing is for wound reported by his bob. Mcnair the longtime writer down there. He said what was reported was when they fire bill. O'brien and did everything they they told. Sean we're going to let you have a seat at the table. Your input is going to be you know taking in on gm co tires. Things that nature. Then they go out and even even hired a scouting firms one hundred grand to scouting from the up finding gm venema coach. They completely ignored. Everybody goes on that list The the guy caserio when everything was from the patriots want even on the list from the other. They're hiring from the roman dishonor wasn't discussed at all whether he liked to didn't like the guy and if i want to retain i don't have to include their player in my in my circle of a hiring decisions but not going to tell them that i will not be a minimum work so he has understand being a little little ticked off but still it's in his lane and i don't think i'll the going to carry on much further so so wait i think tony dungy. I think there's a couple of people that were involved in the conversation or there was a couple of people that were were either on the phone or i just don't dungeons day was reference because whenever news the issue tony dungy is brought in as oracle and this is from what ten years ago. I'm tony dungy's opinion a lot of areas. I'm tony let peyton manning make decisions. But i don't think like bill. Jake didn't include tom in anything. You know packers include brett farr anything right so they made a mistake absolutely just by telling them you're going to allow him to be in the conversation. You made a mistake. He doesn't know enough about hiring. Gm running franchise player for four years. You expect no so is so. Tell me this. March is the showing watson a franchise quarterback. Yes or no question. Okay if is the shawn watson. used to question correctly is shown watson a contract person a cat person or genome will play personnel person and is shawn watson and the governing body over picking. Who should be the next coach. I i just. I actually those questions because i knew what easter you you were going to provide. I say it was. You know clearly a miscommunication don't know why they involved him and it's you know it's it's the texas bad it's they're bad because clearly if year you know and i get it. But unless you're how do i frame this jerry. Crowns didn't include michael jordan. I mean outside of maybe dennis rodman you know plan for personnel tight tight issue and i just the way i feel is one that the athletes to be the athlete is one thing but if you bring in a man then you bring them in right and then you come out and make asinine statement on. We don't want the inmate tournament prison or whatever it was that was said. It's not a good look around. This is a whole that Mayor built for himself dug for himself. He's not defined way to dig himself out. He's had clean this mess up. Is you have to make a right with franchise quarterback but again all the leverage is still in the houston texans side and so sean can either have the second up get out of his feelings and play football days hills in in enrolling force their hand. Okay i think we'll lose this This here for now because Wanna get into last week when a couple of questions last week because still feel i row not necessarily because he got not that the game. I'm going to ask you is. Do you expect more jackson to get the You know that quarterback contract this off season then you know that. I'm glad you asked that question. I actually a believable either earlier this morning or last night the john said in a press conference that he is confident he has served him the contract. Extension for lamar is coming this offseason. I thought to myself like man. At what level do you pay this guy. Because yes he. He's an incredible athlete. He does things. Quarterbacks can't do even my vacant do right but you're seeing in play in. You're seeing that. The style of football is not gonna win january. You're not you're gonna win ten eleven games every year off menaces off of trigger or whatnot. Sustainable playoff winning product. So i ask you that. Regard pat mahomes making forty shawn watson. Making thirty eight matt ryan's making thirty six right. Aaron rodgers making thirty eight right. What do you pay the more jackson. I don't know. I do think the media number of those numbers wrong just scorching together and and say thirty five in does does that pit more jackson off if you say. Hey i'm gonna give thirty five. They that there there is what my follow up. If you're lamar jackson do you think. Hey i'm the best quarterback in league taken to the playoffs. Three years in the road won the one game and we kinda got embarrassed and recover them. But i brought you here three years in a row. Winning games on putting up stats. I'm the mvp. How one forty one million. So i don't really like the way they played this game. He got a there at the end trying to trying to save a snap over his head. i did down a tough way for the in-form but he did not play well in that game. You know the pig sakes is the the errant throws. When when he jay and elaine open he kept it and got smashed in the mouth things like that. He was not sharp. He was not on his game and as three years in a row in the playoffs. That is ended ugly from baltimore So i i'm confused. I would hate to be in that position because you don't want them. Disrespect all thirty million a year. But you also know. He's not pat homes. you know. he's not that guy so see. So here's the problem because you don't want to get yourself involved in a problem that the cowboys in dad prescott really into either exactly and bellizzi looking cowboys. Look at how bad they are without deck. Oh boy daggers. Got paid by not having a play. That injury got him his money. So damn bad without him. I don't know i just the way i feel. I'm not to say. He's not a franchise quarterback. I'm just saying back title. Football play In the playoffs. We've seen it in a row doesn't work. It doesn't and lamar jackson. this special. the margin is talking fantasy football. He's a top five back but we're talking football fundamental football. I don't think he's anywhere in their conversation. I really know so. I'm gonna say i'm okay with me if i'm okay with thirty five but is the extent of this. Contract is in three years at a flea. And that's what i was thinking man Maybe they can get away with doing a kirk cousins deal short him a little bit on the dollar per year amount to make it fully guaranteed like slapping. What a four year. One hundred thirty with only guarantee the whole thing that way. He knows he's getting on at thirty no matter what. And then you can leave yourself out but you start going over four years no matter what kind of contract you give them so you might as well do it for years. Fully guaranteed like minnesota occur. That's that's a different different perspective. If you look at return on investment kirk cousins and vikings if they could do the deal again we'll they do know not only do. I've been hurt. Has some moments just like washington with game against the bucks. You liked that he had sim moments. We gotta say damn no. Maybe guys pretty good. But then he has so many other moments realize jesus davin cooked ran for two hundred dollars and three touchdown. And you've found a way to lose the game Nano they had a jettison. On defense past year daily workout Loss xavier rose lost key players griffin but her cousins had a stinker of year man stinger and roy a great year from dow. Cook the one thing i will say is he bet on himself. He got paid for it. And i like to think that we're gonna see this much more in the future. you know. Take the short deal. Take the big money and don't get hurt right. I mean the man had two years franchise tag. Then you had four years of fully guaranteed thirty. Busby knows his adventure. Say her cousins may close to two hundred million dollars in he wanted. Nothing is is. He won a playoff game. They beat the odds twice. Okay yeah i remember that play. Yes omega days. That wasn't her concentrate. yes it was. I think it was chase geniune. We get it ono. There might be. You might be right you might be. I'd have to go back and look at that. Because i know he's been there three years and that was in twenty eighteen so i think that was garden. I you But i could be wrong my memory and what was so. I'm i'm just. I'm gonna let you have that one either way i notice. They beat the saints Last year in the playoffs. I mentioned the the actual game. The team's about john with us was last week's heads with mahomes dirty now only with into showing you that type of play germany in in that style when you run your subject to the same punishment all other runners are i. Don't get it. You happen to be an elite level player quarterback whatever you want to sit there and run a zone read option. You wanna come up with your head full steam like that you deserve to have it rocked off your body period. Protect yourself protect your net. He didn't do that. I understand the playoff football. He was trying to get their yard in. that's football. that was a football player football hit. There's nothing dirty about you. Wanna talk about dirty. Let's talk about the young man who's made a hell of a hell the play just trying to dive and get a couple of y'alls in the end zone instead of i go onto one. It's first first and ten gone the other way. Better control the ball is going to. That's dirty play. That's a that's a rule there needs to be revisited of and that's kind of jacked up mistake but Now the payment homes hit was was clean though the hit on lamar where he was pushed in the back of his head into the terrify or people say that was very. No these are football. Plays we seeing some really really non personal fouls get called protective quarterbacks during that pocket you on that risk but you get outta pocket you start running running back. I'm gonna hit you back Is going to ask you about rounds or as you said. The cleveland hashbrowns browns Geene was they as the take was there. They had everything going away way. A granddaughter said that the godawful a fumble the back the end zone. I headed for that. He he made a plane was just trying to love it. Too much ages out there ball takes when he got down to the ground. You're looking at cleveland browns winning game but even with that set you down five. You got the ball. What five minutes left in the game. You are not trying to have innocence. Verdict the running the ball on first second and third down and in putting the hell are you doing. it's almost like they. They just assumed that they were gonna part. And stop tab any. I'll gp get the ball right back in better field position in the playoffs and you cannot make those account assumptions. You down five. There's five minutes live. you're not playing conservative. Not managing the clock and then put away. I was a dumb ceilings. At the end of the game that i can remember seeing the playoffs play even had every opportunity for that game to be there to be one. They tried to be conservative in go out. They played to not lose. Instead gordon win. They should've went up there and took the w and kind of your wherever families because they they're not going to get a better opportunity they don't they just had maysville. He's a jag just a guy. He's just good enough to be able to draft his replacement but he's not good enough for you to actually win. Any hardware is never going to be a leader of anything. Statistically he's never gonna be a perennial playoff guy. He's better at commercials than his playing football. i mean doug flutie appro comparison today flutie flakes game. He's a likable personality. He's not that dude man. Uh i will say this much on a yes. I live in new york Of course you know where. I live long island biggest jets and giants their teams buffalo new of them here But i'm sure the buffalo bills would have preferred the cleveland browns verses Gives us any chiefs. Mom's this story is now in the billet all lower. he's alive. i was worried about him. If a million got a word. That's only say this is not a man. Happy that you you hear We'll get right into we touch the all the topics we gotta do a recap of buxton saints. Would you like to Know where. I'm happening right now. Oh you got a bag of all. You know he got he gotta get it. No you gotta get it get it honestly get away with the bag though listening to get away with the bay you know. Even though y'all y'all y'all got lost four out of five games in the room. Hey is broke. Yeah okay it would say like i. I'm not coming on here to make excuses about the game We turn the ball over four times or we gave away. Four turnovers was led to twenty one points. And you. i don't care what how good just team is You're not gonna win like that in the nfl right And that's ultimately what happen. I think Not having teased some hill and not having all Deonte harrison the second half. It was just a it was a big A big loss especially when we got down the raise all early. I gotta buckle got down there twice and we can't even with two field goals. I say that that's not good at fourteen. Nothing at that point. Six six six on any up here is me nervous into the game. We're not strong whatsoever. Who is on special teams in their job with two out of the gate. I was like i saw that plan. And you jesus thank you relevant back right there but saints defense because job raise. i mean. that's the worst play ever. And it sucks the lightning's his last game in going out like that Because even ball. We had five three and outs we had four turnovers and you you know. Aluna won the game by ten. That's incredible we should should've blow them out but the defense played played. Well we'll snoopy we story quick second. I don't know if he's he's pulling an aids. We lost his video amen. The bag hurt his feelings. He had to go around. I don't know he'll he'll be bad. We'll we'll i mean lucy showed up. He's not making excuses. He gained wearing an ugly. You know doing gold. I just i want. I want to ask him his feeling. How can feel to go back to losing football every year coming. It's coming. I'm you know in in this is sometimes i'm gonna tell you. I love his broadcast studio. I noticed the working out some of the case. So i've listened in on some of the hap some community projects. I know they're working on some things so we got to be patient with this. Was you know. I've seen some some video Broadcasts where people leah buckle in mind and i'm like angolan it'll be the store s back home or bag all you lean on how to him. I did not give question in my main question now is about janus being his qb then. I won't answer that question. Do my wonderful daughters made this in in commemoration. I'm told me word it's over it's over it's over. It's over the the the question when asked him about it. So much board thomas in the beginning of the season and him getting to spend it and this and all its other stuff. I'm like in economy around at or to be traded during this off season wall. I mean you know the saints. Pr people do reasons. Why in my michael thomas himself and everything they They spun it there in the gang with the number of injuries drew head. And then michael. Thomas had this that that third he's going to need three surgeries. He only tried play. Lewis drew's last year. He won like do you remain. The face ended spring. And you miss nine games ankles bridge so yeah you can probably get some cleanup started. that's fine. Aj brown had major knee surgery on both his knees as a gun played every game and got fourteen hundred yards thirteen yard so miss me with that ankle that due to solve. I don't like him He cannot take criticism at all. He winds and cries all twitter. They call them slammed boy or whatever they call them slant guy when it whatever the term. There's a bunch of different ones and not to my knowledge as t if he comes back. That's why he punched his own teammate. Today call them slack. If you run a ninety percent of your rouser digs and slants. But you've got a hundred and forty nine judge a. I'll be like one hundred and forty nine right now. Dude sensitive man and i i have no no no no excuse i do the sensitivity in pro sports especially what has become regarding accolades. Someone's coming out of your teammate or whatnot. If someone's coming after the team that's fine but someone attacking you on twitter. You can not let something like that bother you when you're a multi-million dollar professionals so the dagenham like an egg was like someone without an editor. No actually a bunch of people die jalen ramsey actual players in this league other receivers. Saying oh yeah. I'd probably get hundred. Forty nine balls to guy complaint seventy five percent throwing another slants. I seventy kids. Who were on his head because he was he. Was you out of here. All this extra flags. I'm the best. Can't guard me like now. We have seventy yards had seven targets. He will catches zero yards two drops. I wanna hear nothing for michael. Thomas going forward shut up and play. Football enjoyed james. Winston overthrowing you thirty forty times. A year god i. I don't know if he's coming. Back or not buckle n appointment even trying. I mean he. He got the bag. My daughter's made for that made their they do so. Should we should take on on. What is your take on. Two games that are last. Two games are left yes level. Rabbit pharaoh nece. I know we've we've kinda kill some time waiting on t. And all that seemed to be offering out. So i feel bad to the haves audience tonight. We'll we'll give you a better product knicks town but these next two games when you couldn't have scripted this season to go any better josh. Allen pat mahomes two of the young leaders of the future of the nfl. Aaron rodgers and. Tom brady the last of the old way but you couldn't have scripted it any better. I think it's it's good for the bugs. Finally they gave the early game especially being worn. Frigging wisconsin be eighteen degrees and snowing. I love the fact that game on at three and nine seven three game. I yeah yeah. We got the early game. Young boys have the nightcap in bed by eight o'clock down. I honestly just like what what i said. Last week. the game we played against packers means nothing to game the sentiment. Nothing this is the play offs. The packers are playing at a very high level. The ball out his hand bump way. We're playing right now. Tetreault we are playing buddy. Devens is flying. Devon white is incredible. I mean it was a lower. The plays lante dana. Mr steady doing all the little work so i can run around and make big splash of i still am extremely confidently with his game. I think it's don't oppose more problems because air is not you know i should throw it. He never know on. A thing is going to be a game. But the packers. Don't have the defense the saints. So i still see a scorn. Heasley into the thirties will the packers scored with us is mike. So what's your prediction. Dirty twenty six tampa bay in okay. Thirty twenty six. So here's the spread. Change is the last time. I checked the spread. I think the packers three. Yeah and they still have the chiefs at three and a half as well. I don't see now. That's the case because pat mahomes has been practicing all week and he's cleared all the phases of concussion protocol so okay. Yeah turia back. I know you. there was some technical issues. The question. I gotta jump in here. buckle tori. I need you to answer. A question is like the the changing of the guard has happened. Are you okay. How would he have feelings with the potential of base. Jameis winston being your quarterback for the future man. I've got mixed emotions definitely. don't day. It would have to say about jamison buckle. I wish you would try to deny anything. I'm about to say He was he was a little turnover. Pro coming out of college. So we knew the turnovers where there however when he did get a tampa temperature put a good office of line around around this man and needed to build an office of line around us man like they did for the great time brady They didn't go out and draft. You know left tackle. So basically to southbound. James last year was him running for his life a lot him trying to make a play in the offense that bruce areas ran was designed for him to push the ball down the field. Now that does not Excuses decision making at times. But we don't have a clean pocket and you're running for your life. You tend to plus a little bit Is he gonna be jewelries. No Do i think he's improved for being around drew brees and being around sean payton yes How much he has improved. We'll see I'm optimistic about the quarterback of the future I wanna see what he can do because face have a good office line. You've got playmakers around him. he's he's got to all talent. His base hits. The knock on. James was the turnovers. And i know my man buckled. Sit up here and be like. Oh you know. Y'all input of august line around jay to keep them upright and keep him from running for life while he minutes. We have the same exact last year except for one white. Tackle one rookie was tolerated handball. All his hands instead of running rams to an down by thirty two first-half pigs in having a fighting man. So you put you which which book it was. The same thing with. This was was the quarterback. I'm not. I'm not gonna say fits. Magic is good quarterback. I was the conductor of james wants a bandwagon high school. And i've oh i i'm of that way. I derailed train. And i don't i don't think he's a let me say. This is the a top ten quarterback in the league. No now right now but he's a lot better than somebody who started on the nfl. A lot better. Yeah do when. I sat here and i've lived with the steelers signed wayne haskins and her. Golly james wasn't gagging. I get your point that he i put them somewhere to the middle of the pack. Yeah he's a little bit of a pet. How hard is it going to be your offense to go from second best of all time to sixteen best of right now they gotta sauce you. They have they have. They have to track something because ted tampa game for game plan and i'm sure they came in saying you know what degrees is not gonna ball more than he's not going to past twenty yards in only going to be twice in this game. Okay make or visit a game not fearing any type of direct. Their safeties played up no case because there was nothing they want free of nothing getting behind them. So that's why you saw extra tight coverage on michael michael thomas and everything degrees tried to get onto neat. It was contested because that was the game plan. We know what they wanna. Do you want us to play on the planet. He played emma above. It'd be familiar with what they're trying to do and not get manipulated by this time so tai-bo so you know what policies up we ain't afraid of nothing deep if you going to the depot win this game case oil. When when the saints read the turk play the status was still playing up and bill not realize do not in a game trick while swift was thirty yards wide open because the state was sticking to the game plan. They're not gonna throw the ball. Even just happened. To be day was western. He's got to get a death. He was able to make that one big play but that was the game plan. And that's what you read you. Greece has turned into someone. If you play zone don't really Challenge the intermediate stop. He can beat you and he can. He can hurt you but if you sit on him and you challenge the run game and you. You're you're able to contest a lot of those shot throws is a long day and that that's just what happened coupled with the terminal was though so i'm curious to see what james is going to do as the starter but i am not against bring in another veteran or draft quarterback but let me just get in here really quick chime in want to give a A big shot. The banner man remain richy riches in the building Cameron thankfully award and bannon has a couple of comments. He saying brady has serious weapons. No home field advantage for free bay except the coal and said jameson mountain. Sure it was his fault last year. He's not afraid. John's quarterback in wanted these saints future saying that but really truthfully. That's what attracted. Tom brady tampa. He had two thousand dollars receivers. A lot of that was because of james now. Don't get me wrong. He threw sturdy third war thirty three interceptions last year reign thirty bleeding for astronomical amount of yards and that was like buckle said the bucks a little behind a hell of a lot but he still had to get the ball there he still had to produce a lot of those games. The buck that have a running game. A lot of people went into that game. Outright james go chuck and that's going do they didn't have on an ronald jones wasn't last year. Wasn't the ronald jones this year true so so does so a lot of that played into you. Know what happened to him last year and so i'll bet and it was his fault but like i said he's still produce. Those two thousand receivers was was raised on his eyebrows. And say hey man. They got some talent to get down and if he went to end the energy and i literally mean any other budgeting. I'll probably share your opinion. But once he put on them flirt. Ask the worst only him. That's it Wichita tune green Well we'll the first show we did. I came on and said there is no home. Field advantage As far as the the you know it's a level playing field only only bad thing is you're traveling and you're not in your bed but when you get on the field. There's no crowd noise. It's not enough to distract you anyway. So you basically plan The quarterback can hear everything the office of langley hearing everything the deepest. I'll have the crowd begging ear. So it's the only only vanished rebate in my opinion is the cold weather like somebody was playing in the And allie what they desperately banners. Because tom brady between new england. So what do you have used to that. After seeing green bay play against the rams s. i gave them a little more credit. Even though aaron donald was hurt that the rest of that defense Davante adams snell went out and bought out against gel ramsey I'm going to give green beat a slight very slight Because i in green bay's defense has improved since the first time that they played them. And you know. Come to see the team a second time as the team that went in going to w saint case in point with the saints. I beaten the bucks twice the team. That lost often comes in. There is because now they're they're in the lab by man. We gotta go back and see what they did in the we got stall. I'm not sitting in there like man. We definitely out what the hell happened. What the tampa bay so Hoping advantage nah cold advantage. I mean tom brady gonna happen ready for that. He used to that. I think he has gone back I give a green bay just a slight edge. Because i think there you grits and i worry about. The offense is going to do what they do. Eras do he do. But i think the defense has stepped it up Just enough to give him a slight edge over the bucks. Okay so i guess we'll go to the you know the prime time game which is going to be the next generation you got chiefs buffalo bills like i said buffalo's a new york team that new york doesn't support. I don't get it get it. I've always liked buffalo more giants. I don't know why. I don't know why i mean i don't know why they're gonna like was a quote unquote in new york giants stadium right right right right. York is on closing a candidate in san. That's the big thing. Because you are able to new york city the bronx right right. Right is is not the case. You can always be room for thirteen bills fan. I don't know buffo commenting on this game Even with patrick mahomes come on. We all know he was gonna play bill no in the world. He will go miss this game. Unless he ain't was falling off his body will definitely him in a concussion protocol. he's so Would him play man. I i live buffalo. Mayor man almost blow over prisident buffalo buffalo by field goal in a close game all I like i like the matchup of today's white on tyreek hill. The advantage ideal Our city their advantage. I give them travis. Kelsey buffalo has edmonds in the middle linebacker. So it's kind of like a okay. It's almost a toss up with them. So i think because of buffalo's defense i i'm gonna give him a my reports in the cold. The cold once again is not a factor. Kona buffalo is colder kansas city. That that is a back there to having they're gonna allow. I think it's seven thousand fans. That's as not enough to really make noel the other nabucco so busy. I need a score score man. Okay i'm gonna say oh man. I'm see buffalo. Twenty two seventeen loring worn. Yeah i i got to go a different way. I got the same team winning two at buffalo both dogs in these contests winning the game. Being neither team is really able to run all the last part of the year on a try out there slinging it balls flying everywhere right. Like t- said they got the linebackers that might be able to step up and coverage on me on those crossers would call see and robinson those guys But i really really like josh allen in the ways playing the way digs blame the way beasley sprinkled in there and i fact the brian tables has cane run it. I'm not wasting plays trying to run a damn ball. I'm gonna sling. I expect that And i've seen this game being a shootout. I got thirty. Three twenty seven buffalo ruled liable. Yeah bills if they take the hit last week would you swayed the other way anyway. I don't i don't. I don't think i think they hit on him. I don't think that factors into it. And like i said unless his hand was falling off his body he won't play. So i don't think the hit that he took plays into him going into this game any differently. I just buffalo perks. going up against them They they got one of the best secondaries and the nfl e two safeties to call us eight. I'll be ready to play you. Got davis eighty nine thirty owner. What attitude you though though not a week. Then andy reid and tyreek hill as the two guys are weakening the burners you own up pat. Mahoney gonna play out of work. Honestly i'm telling you right now before. That movie came out forty protocols. I think patent hosmer came in then football. Yes yes yes. Yeah he comes football we up so it was not a dirty to clean football cry. You want to sit there and try to run ball. You hit like a runner. And that's the one impact. I think that the injuries are gonna have on andy reasonable. Think twice about colin. That play in. I don't think after her scrambling but i think it stops do for college. Type of quarterback design not assign got josh allen. He yeah let's go. Give me that oughta background. I'm taking a look at the defense looking at the second barrett. Who are you afraid of the hundred badge out state. But you're not necessarily afraid of step on digs is looking at the secondary like okay. Well let's go. And their best corner sharp railing coming out of protocol as well so he make a tackle the wrong way he can get dinged. Backup so yeah again. Kansas city have you look at them. As last month a year they they kind of limped into the finish line and they have not lived one. The foul the falcons looking to the damn break. The everybody was into the wire I'm not. I'm always the guy going there. Detained hot in the playoffs in continuing the tubes kind of backdoor way. We ended this by and really been tested and that. Just don't look crisp to me. So that that's my difference. In the bogan so i had A couple of people from apps come on and they asked a question to before we don't do they went in about. Will you be interested in doing a super bowl. Pre-game show or happy halftime. Show or postgame show. I got a feeling it's going to be too much libation involved to win. No but i was wrong. They do a little pre game. We could do that okay. I'll give you some pre game album in the super bowl hardest hit. What's what's the status of attempt. Antonio brown bruce arians said you need to practice either veteran the as not tracked as because he's resting. The knee has no structural saint. David's damage just kind of tweet little bit tried to go back in there and it just it was tied in him so i i. It's whole week has been about moosonee west in the knee and tony. Brown's not need practice. You just need that. Swallow dama calm. I think he's input. Yeah ain't tampa bay with this game from Hogle cable with this game. If davante adams has five catches for audiard's for the first game we had six catches for sixty. The first half of that he added that is is is is is way. I win the game at anything over that if he starts because what happened was he starts getting loose. And then you gotta start by appetite. They gotta start. Were aaron jill. Do you gotta stop worrying about Allen lazard list gambling on us with adams adams is not cooking. Then you can kind of roll cover kind of play your base deep. It's everybody but if it also having a role coverage over adams that's the problem raining play so that happens. That's huge Want to give a big shout at the dining. He says buckles going to the super bowl to teach this week donny. I'm two hours at the super bowl when i was eight years old. Intangible bills giants the fifteen thirteen super bowl of in person on my eight birthday watching that game so the bills do not have a good history of winning in tampa. So let's keep they'll have a history of goodwill history win the superbowl at all loved them. Kelly teens i don't say level as in my older age. I'll come to appreciate them. I was a raider fan. Bo jackson because alan i they were they will just policies us at that time out. I hated jim. Kelly but you know you get older and you just recognize greatness like i got a chance to really watch jim kelly. Tom listen azure. Read and all aboard. Do that I gotta find a question feo. She's so senior. Eragny is name has been mentioned. We've seen so much footage of him and in content. We know that yeah. It happens to be on staff and the app pens. Have won a back by patrick. Mahomes says he wants to be a head coach. What needs to happen. Why hasn't this happened. And the final question is at the muni rule sailed these types of candidates miserable if the owner were rule has failed miserably It seems like coaches of color are only good enough to be assistance in the eyes of nfl owners and general managers. You know we can give a black hoter assistant job when it comes to a head. Coaching job is a problem. You know meanwhile Other coaches are getting rehashed and getting this chance and getting that chance or in even if they're not even considered Back in you know. They might be a retirement. Hey let's go get that guy over here costa five years and you don't wanna sit at a guy that's been an assistant and Productively you radical back. in recycling. Another surprise bill collins name has been mentioned because you know they bring him you retire for obscene stay almost eighteen years so as a problem and i don't know how to fix it But it's it's a problem will giving african american coaches the opportunity to prove themselves when it comes down to be. Hey coaches in this league. It's it's something that needs to be fixed Especially this year thi this year's even further and go in that point even though you know and the other guy from the rams they went to the lines i believe only got some. Gm some minority. Gm's right you need those guys in management to get higher in the next level. So yeah trickle down effect but are looking guys like airbnb who this is kinda tongue-in-cheek but it might be some serious to andy. Reid might be putting out some bad media billion you something. He don't want him to go. Because there's no reason that guys staley for the rams though even no. There's no way you hire the the backup to the backup of. Doug peterson and cry. You know job that came from the sanctum a biting people in the kneecap now so yes that narrative can't be moore with what's happening all of these young unproven white coordinators getting a job where none of these two hires. That happened today. I haven't heard of them got. Yeah i never heard that guy you tidings coaching and the guy from the coasts either one of them vietnamese name into for the last four or five years. You kind of makes you wonder now. I know dan campbell buckles campbell but a lot of people like who the hell of day accountable randall will. Because he's been on. Our staff is tight as tight ends coach. You know so. Any came from miami where he was an interim head coach. They didn't even higher there. So it's like okay a web. Do you come. And you get a coach. Sean payton staff. That's the tight ends coach office coordinator the titans coach you promote hill or you give him a job as the head man and that was their guide. That's who they want it but the guy that's that's coast up Patrick mahomes and and Let one of the most prolific office the lead along being along with be intuitive by one of the greatest coaches in football. You know he doesn't get out. He's not high on your list. I what are they doing to detroit. No is it is it kind of gave them a curse that he has had homes and he has all the the weapons and everything else like. That could be that or could be like be any of this. Eighty become co. You can't use that argument because dude than just came from. The colts may never gonna to play in his life. You've never heard his name. Be enemy is right. Oh that's on telling me so this guy at some point misspoken interview or southern happen in this guy's line were almost trying to keep him. That's all the thing that makes sense to me. He's overly qualified was a player coach. He's been on a great staff. Great mentors of this game considered him but these guys coming out the woodwork. Thirty four years old. We'd never heard of art up. I want inmates from nation. I wanna to society two hundred twenty one eight in 'cause skin but what else are you led to believe because i really have no concrete information as to why he's not being stronger. Consider unless this is just us as kaos. Gm's over hiding i. i really don't know. Yeah i don't either but the guy's been a good coach for a long time. Go all the way back. The days of minnesota Where he goes and he. He was running backs coach. He goes asia. Paid all those years you you you said you say oh man well he was. Here's your pizza. But great tireless needs to be coach. That's realized great bill east to be coats. It still needs to be coach at developed. You're still Painted trying to implement into the system. Great talent still needs to be coaching. He has done it over his career. What the agency patrick mahomes. Whoever helps he's had it even take that. Take the you talk about. Patrick mahomes but you take up the equation for a little while. He was out of the game last week and they come in and they call plays that are working for the backup quarterback ten any for them. You know andy had a real girl walking in front of a who. You can't say that it's all Patrick mahomes because nate clearly or coach players he's part of that so jerry miller john chicago show defying nate ninety and hired the enemy. Not not that the is the other thing does it made sense for the enemy to go. Be a college coach. No win my thing is Buckle if he goes and be it becomes a college coach. Okay and that's almost an hour and i gotta go through myself in the comeback to the nfl. It'd be too so you can be a successful head coach. Okay long enough as a successful coast to where he should. At least get shot because like we've been saying the these guys are getting shots out of nowhere so i can see if if you were if you were saying all right. He's a first year assisted. They've done really well go to the college ranks and build a programming income tax on the nfl. But he's been there long enough to what he's seeing some coach now every just to the point where he just doesn't get any looks or he never gets the opportunity while point. I can see what you have made. Maybe you just want to say screw the nfl. Just going into college and bill you up but for right now why go back to the college ranks. When approve of what i can do all the nfl level especially since he's in the same exact position that matt nagy was right nine didn't call plays just having coordinator up under andy. Reid got him a job in chicago. he's still there still in us matter to talk with about nagy. He had to give up his playcaller responsibilities when he did that. That's trubisky started looking better. He still they're getting another chance to yet another season in chicago. But you don't want to give this man a chairs at one year as a head. Coach silhouette is really difficult. Guys that want to hope that one day race doesn't matter especially in our sports people have come. But how do you argue against the nepotism the the bureaucracy that the scene in my opinion is qualified. Guys if not more qualified as is basically recently they do it right in front your face young when someone shows you who they are believing right and i think the league is shown time and time again i just i still don't wanna believe so. We need to take advice. You've got gotta find a way to get these jobs These guys Or at least a shot. That's all that's basically asking for. Give us a shout. We already know that will talking about head coaching position. We know you on into a situation where you're gonna get three years maybe to build a author to establish your system your culture into a already losing situations but you're the system and you're going into a situation like that does us Destroyed by us going into detroit knowing that she got a couple pieces but really attributing. They've been loser so long you already when you walk in the door pressure on you to win and if you have you come in. Even though you're inheriting best already you have a hauge first season depresses on your all. If you if you don't get us at least to the playoffs next season out the door we took marine morrison. I mean what was the name of the gentleman who's the The cardinals coach. Here ole apple got talk about. He's only got sixteen They will get rid of from each year panther team already coming in. You're already coming in nolan. That's you're not already on a very short lease to produce and you're already going. There's a reason why the previous hand coach spy so you already going to a situation where it's definitely a rebuilding situation and won't be to win like right now like i don't get a chance to drop a cornerback. Get offensive line ahead. no. I don't to do that at. Hey y'all want me to come and be good right now let me. Hey now along this. Hey we're gonna call this an episode pro- Promised to give the folks a little bit much better. Equality next week is technical issues and you know. Light tends to get in the way things Family members walk in and around and in front of me. And i well. You got be back with green bay. That's all i know the. Yes in unison. want buffalo. And you kinda you kinda go your own way when you say. They're i buckle wants a tampa bay sample be way teams in the bronx. He's no you pick the bucks were have picked out about. I like that. I know about a picket right of a pick. You know now without any bias but just stay. Green beans defense is playing well enough At this point to squeak out a victory over A slight is by. I think that's i think that's a field goal game also but not by much at temple especially the way deeper split last week devon white ball out of control you know appropriate brother litter for net paul out of control In a mike evans slag or man they got brady and you know what you know is the difference. You walk into almost longer to a game. Say we got brady. Y'all don't and that's a confidence builder right there. I mean i had the game twenty six. I also see nicole's game. I'm not going to beat them by twenty eight again. That's not gonna happen. Ooh and at the same time that they're from this we're physicality man Would we see any reason why we can't beat him busy. I do wanna make an honorable mention. I listened to buckle last week. And you'll you buckle was trash talking hunt at the. I mean the on the berks maino made one fifty back so i wouldn't is cash because that was a that was a nice pickle as they say no thank you and ten percent is customary in house. That's okay. i look oldies mass for years. I'm in my goodness over. That general show want to thank you once again for john and then We will watch these games this week. And i mean this weekend and would love to do a follow up nate. Well there's gonna be a gap so might have like a half an hour show or something next week in just the lead up to the super bowl or we didn't even watch the pro bowl. I really don't watch ownership but not even that but are gonna pull it a raft. Gentlemen want thank you again and we out alright.

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"Shannon Sharpe just goes right through. Anthony Doris set a all and goes I wanNA know what it was like ninety two yards right right down the middle of the field. No one touched him and I remember them getting out this huge stage and setting it up for the AFC championship. Lamar Hunt Trophy. Oh fee and celebrations there at just was so sour so sour and they went to the super bowl next year and got crushed but this this was the Super Bowl that everyone knew whoever won the AFC was GonNa win the Super Bowl. Because that was the Jason Seahorn giants with he Kerry Collins quarterback. There is just no way that that giants team was GonNa win the Super Bowl. There was not going to be a Norwood miss or tyree catch when it came to that so Shannon Sharpe though I gotta say the guy is probably the most ripped football player. I've ever seen this tied it. You Know Teo was about as ripped Vernon Davis and other tied in was about as rip but those guys were ripped but but Shannon Sharpe member standing next to him his his his his forearms like the size of my thighs guy was massive aright. When we come back we will have joe thighs? Men and I don't think he's GonNa Yell at me time. I'm not going to bring up the whole redskins thing. I think we've been over that Joe thighs many want super bowl and he's next. Do you owe ten thousand dollars or more on at least two federal student loans. Then you may qualify for new programs offered by the Department of Education these programs can reduce your interest lower payments and possibly qualify. You for loan forgiveness if you have ten thousand dollars or more and at least two federal student loans and currently currently not in school you may qualify for one of these programs. Call now to check your eligibility student. 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USA Coast to Coast Boorda border and around the world on the American Forces Radio Network. It's always great to catch up with Joe thighs men. Once again and Joe Thighs. Men CORSET radio row at the Super Bowl Guy who played in more than one super bowl. He's got the rings the show and he's here on behalf of Not just the REDSKINS SKINS BUT MED lemon oil. which is the official health and wellness partner of the Washington redskins? And we'll get to that in just a second Jody so you have a dog in this fight You leaning one way or the other or are you just looking for a great game go first of all. I'm looking for for a great game but the other part of it is you know Kyle was in Washington Mike Shannon. I've known him forever to To terrific guys terrific coaches of course by cast three championships. And Kyle's going after his first and of course I think Andy Reid is like like Santa Claus. I mean you know everybody in Philadelphia. I know loves them and and He's done a great job in Kansas City. I'm looking for a great football game. The problem is is you spend enough time In this business you make so many friends and you feel bad rooting against your friends. So in this particular game for me I just wanted to be able to see a great football game and I believe that's what I'm going to say San Francisco comes in and they're just rolling defense and offense. You've got Patrick Mahomes. There's so many wonderful storylines in this game. When you look at the Redskins and the shakeup with you know Bruce L. and getting rid of Jay Gruden and now roussin shown the door? They've got a young quarterback from from the area and Haskins. who was fantastic Ohio state? It looks like they're going to be getting chase young at two overall. How are things looking on the upside for the skins? I think they're looking up tremendously. Well we you know people got tired. They got frustrated. The fans got frustrated. And I believe now that hiring Ron is an invigorating thing for the franchise. I think the fans are excited certainly i. I listened in watched his press conference. He said all the right things and I believe he'll do all the right things I like his staff. He's got a veteran Jack del Rio as defensive coordinator Scott Turner. He's got a young guy as an offensive coordinator so I think it's a football team. That's got a lot of young talent. You know what it's like to this out in San Francisco when you have a lot of guys hurt a lot of guys have have to play and it's a tough year but the silver lining in. That is a lot of guys had to play to get experienced. So I think that's where the redskins are at this point. You know it's interesting. When what athletes and former athletes think about and of course super bowl seventeen you bring it home super bowl eighteen? You you lost to the raiders. Which Super Bowl dea think about more or have you ever even thought about it putting it in those terms I think about Super Bowl eighteen more more. I think when it's almost like when you when you're when things are going well you just sort of stay in the moment and you move along with it and it and in the case the Super Bowl when you win it you don't necessarily go back and look at the mistakes that you made even though you want it and super bowl eighteen you go back. And you scrutinize every EXPLO- every decision. Because the disappointment is so great. I mean just to be able to get here and say you know. It's great to see the forty niners back again. I mean you know it's unbelievable franchise. It's a historic French. And they're back and that's the wonderful part of it I mean that's that's that's part of this game that take so great is the forty niners are back again and Kansas City's back after fifty years so when you look at this game Whoever winds up not winning this football game it'll leave a sour taste in their mouth and I guarantee it has left one in? Kyle's there's a profit to see if he blows twenty eight to three lead. I mean believe me he knows better than anybody what happened with Atlanta but one of the things that I find interesting is the scrutiny. Neither Jimmy Garoppolo hat out here. I thought the way he looked in those last five games when he came in he looked great. I thought he deserved the extension but there were a lot of non believers believers out here. And the niners you know. They used to boost Steve Young because he wasn't Montana then they booed Jeff Garcia. Because he wasn't Steve. I it got weird but there was an incident at forty niners training camp where Jimmy Garoppolo through picks on five straight passes and I thought its camp. Maybe they were working on something it. It doesn't matter but the media they were even bringing it up like in wheat. Sixteen will don't don't forget what he did in camp. I don't know why the obsession is people. Were trying to tear or this guy down. What do you think about Jimmy G.? I like Jimmy to you and and you know what all of the shots that he has taken. I think has made him more resolve at being the quarterback that he can be and that he wants to be and so from my perspective just the simple fact that whether all of this storm that he's gone through has made them tougher He he plays the position like I was asked to play the position You know you've got a great defense. You've got a solid running game we play. I John Riggins you've got US news. Check and other guys in the backfield and if you're going to be asked in this game he's he's going to be asked tap a dozen times to make critical throws because that's the way the offense is structure and kyle will give him the opportunity. I think you have the two of the best play callers by the way in the National Football League in this game as well. Andy likes to throw. It likes to run two contrasting styles because terrific guy died. And it's really. Yeah sorry no so. It's really interesting that they both score about the same amount of points which I never would have thought until I read that. And here's something I i. I looked into the past. Is that they throw the two quarterbacks Patrick mahomes averages about thirty four passes fast as a game and I thought Jimmy would be in the high twenty. The average is thirty. So you can't look at these last two playoff games for the forty niners and expect Jimmy Garoppolo to throw six EXP passes and a half nine passes in a game. I think he's GonNa have to throw to be able to for the forty niners to win this football game. It's still going to be on his the shoulders respective of what the outcome is. He is the quarterback out. There has been a heck of a job no doubt about it. How much to this day? Do you live live and die with defining Irish and the skins losses it makes. It makes a lousy Saturday at eleven. But thanks for a lousy weekend okay. It's just not a fun weekend folks boost But on the other side of it I think I think the Irish are going to be back strong next year. I think they've had good recruiting class or a young team. We end to come back. I expect great things and with the Redskins. We just have to wait to see a lot of young guys and it's GonNa be really interesting to see exactly what Ron's going to be able to do and how it's going to be able to grow into it all right Joe. Theismann is with us and on behalf of Love Med lemonade. which is interesting name because it does talk about how I mean whenever we go to the doctor even if we have insurance we get gouged? Joe Well the thing thing is is is med limited as a medical cost containment company. Now basically what does that mean and by the way the website is limited dot com. Med L. I am I am a l dot com ninety percent of the medical bills you get there overcharges but you don't know what to look at Metlife to provide you an opportunity to be able to look at the bill to help you understand what is a what basically is a non compliant or compliant Chart Chart and it's really that simple ninety percent of medical bills Oh there's overcharges in and deal You know one percent of the time. They're are not necessarily getting it right so what you need to do. Is You know like your parents or your own medical bills. Take the time to have somebody look at it for. That's the most important thing is now we have you basically have a watchdog to people look over your shoulder and make sure that you're not being overcharged. That's what Netherland. It'll I remember four super bowl. Eighteen you and Markelle sounded interview together and at the end you said Marcus. I can't wish you good luck but I can wish you good health. Do you remember that. Yes they do that that we remain the closest of friends since then and so that was kind of a precursor to this mid lemon all good health. I had no idea later later that it was quite important. That seemed like yesterday to me. All right. We've been speaking with Joe theismann Super Bowl champion quarterback from radio remember. He says he's he said Med Ed Limited Dot Com. Joe Thanks time and your insights have agreed super bowl and we'll catch up with you down the road game. Thanks all right Joe. Theismann in there and You know what I gotta say. Joe Theismann is one of those guys that I've had on the show many times and He he loves a microphone but he's always was a good interview you know there's some guys are just born to to talk and Joe is one of those guys all right. There's one thing I wanted to finish one little thought and and We had a call. We got to it or we had a guest come a little late. That's what it was and that is the rumor today of TB in in TV NOT WITH TB. But that Tom Brady Tampa Bay now. He'll probably be rumor to every team. Charlotte was a rumor with Carolina on a panthers. Vegas with the raiders. In fact they actually the Vegas Review Journal put a photo shop of him wearing number twelve and soul room. Black Sacrilege Raider fans like. We don't want him when dumb. You don't want Tom Brady. He's too old I go. I don't Don Tom Brady at at fifty three. I'll take him at forty three but Tom Brady has been linked to a lot of teams Yesterday by the way it was the chargers which is where he was going to go. But today it's because of W. E. HE I on the Dale Keefe show. This is Boston radio. And he was on with Dale Oh and Kif over. Those guys are and This this Peter King believe me I should say Peter King was on. I'm Peter King said kind of the football guru They asked him which team Brady going to. What do you think he said? The one team that that I believe is the sleeping giant in this Tampa Bay and when I say that if James Winston is realistic with what his contract man's requests whatever our opinion he will be the quarterback back in the bucks next year. But I don't know that I'm hearing some things out of Tampa that he might be and his agents might want a little bit more money than the Bucks WanNa pay and we'll see if that pans out we'll definitely see look they have a pretty good offensive line. They've got two excellent receivers. They've got a really good young tight end the very imaginative head coach and offensive coordinator. The passing game. I I can't tell you absolutely what they would do or what they are not going to do. But I can't play that they're fascinated me because Bruce Arians isn't coaching forever. I think he's one of those guys. The quarterback say man it would be cool to work for Bruce Arians because he's such a fun offense of mind and King concludes here. Hey look everybody can say no. Not that team. No not this team. But we're talking about Tom Brady and we're talking about a guy who obviously once he comes to. Your team does so much for it including sells tickets like no other person in this free agent market is going to be so I guess I look at it and say when I think of Tampa Ban Tom Brady. It makes as much sense to me as any of these other teams out here there with the possible exception of the chargers and now with Tom Brady Wanna go down to Tampa Bay team that you know He. He talked about it Anderson Coach. Good you know good talent. I think the chargers makes more sense. And it's not just because it's a California thing I think it's just the brand new new stadium you know and people always say oh. It's his home state but believe me. I'M A bay area. Native Los Angeles is basically a different state. It's seven hours away. A Nevada is closer than Los Angeles. Tahoe Reno Reno is more my home. I got cousins there then La. And even before I had cousins there so lower keeper. I on see what happens. We'll take a quick break. Come on if you or a loved. One is suffering from a physical or emotional condition that is left you unable to work then. Listen carefully take this number down. Eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one. That's eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one when you call you'll speak with a social also security disability expert and get a free evaluation to see if you may qualify for disability insurance benefits from the US government. 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It's like that then got a couple minutes left world's biggest chief's Fan and comedian Chris Porter is GonNa come in here and a couple of minutes. He's a standup. He's of the punchline. Assign this weekend in enemy territory of funny as that and then At Eleven Forty Jack Youngblood played in the Super Bowl broken and leg. All that one of the toughest linebackers seventies when men were men and women were men. I don't know But NBC Sports Bay area. Put out a story that Shannon Sharpe says kittle is the better tied in no relation and so then. CBS Sports said. Hey Shannon Sharpe said that kid Elisabetta better tight end Shannon Sharpe told me that Kelsey was the better in now I was a little Internet troll or if I was a little you know if I live my life on on twitter I'd find their tweet and go actually she hadn't sharp just told me the opposite. Who Cares you know? He was talking to a San Francisco outfit so maybe maybe he wanted to say that maybe he just changed his damn mind. What's America you can? Do you want all right. I'm going to do another hour outstanding entertainment so come on You're listening to the heartland newsfeed. Radio Network Broadcasting Live twenty percent of this stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and Instagram's service going newscast January the twenty nine twenty twenty i Mike Clifford President. Trump's trump's defense team appealed to the Senate Tuesday to disregard and you'll account by John Bolton that bolsters the impeachment case against the president that from the New York Times Times they report by days and Republican leaders indicated. They had not corralled the votes they needed to prevent the former national security advisor or other witnesses from. I'm coming forward the time notes on the final day of arguments on trump's behalf J. 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It's health but this tax has the added benefit in the primary benefit really of reducing use by young people pregnant mothers to simply because they are more price sensitive yesterday evening governor. Andy Bashir announced his budget plan for the next two years. According to the latest Kentucky Health Issues Poll Three he added four Kentucky. Adults approve taxing e cigarettes and bathing products. That bill is now in the Kentucky House Appropriations and Revenue Committee. If passed it would take take affect only as August. This is pianist. Ohio farmers will be growing hemp. This spring it is a risky crop. But some pioneers are eager her to make it work. The established an interim rule asphalt to regulate production in Ohio was one of the first days to have his hemp program approved by federal regulators. Hemp is a very labor intensive crop typically grown on five acres or less Julie durant with the Ohio hemp. 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Wally public comment period on the USDA's in rural and today Mary Sherman in reporting this story was produced with original reporting from Maria mcguiness at Kent State a public comment period on the USDA's inner a rule and today today the twenty twenty cents kicks off at about two months a lot on the line for states like Bezerra children under eighteen. A cow roughly twenty two percent of all missourians. The directive says its operations. John Michael Says if children are missed in that. Twenty twenty tally. The state will miss out on crucial federal dollars. We don't want people to forget their little scorned one counting our children means education and childcare roads bridges infrastructure for the next ten years. We just don't want Missouri's children to be less doubted at the national picture. Nationwide nearly five percent of kids under age five were not counted in Leci- finally are Mike Bowen reports at some Minnesota Lakes invasive. 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I might cliff for public news service. We are member. Endless ter- supported boarded online at public service. Dot Org our three underway so many guests my thanks to Shannon Sharpe and Joe thighs men in the previous hour. Coming up in a half hour around forty Jack youngblood played on a broken leg. Ekg when men were men in the seventies but before that one of our favorites. And if you're watching on twitch dot TV right now a little high def webcams you see our very good friend. Chris Porter Order always love it when Chris comes to town. Stand up comedian out the punchline and he's got a show tonight got to tomorrow he's got to on Saturdays and it's just perfect timing timing because if you know Chris he's always wearing royals hat or chiefs had. He is a diehard Kansas City. Fan and we were just talking a little bit about your getting. The butterflies is. Aren't you started yesterday I was in the airport flying here and something came up and I'm like we're in the F in Super Bowl it's shocking Yeah and it's Especially after fifty. You gotTA realize I've said this type of the last time we were in the Super Bowl at halftime or quarterback had a FRESCA and a cigarette. So yeah times were different. I was four years old. I don't remember the Super Bowl's always always my age. Yeah that's Super Bowl. Seventy nine this year. Lenny Dawson who. I got to meet him when I was in high school in the eighties. He was my hero zero because he and Nick Connie did inside the NFL We didn't have NFL highlights. There were only on halftime on Monday. Night football yeah. You couldn't so I go to a raider game and I'm like I can't wait to see that kickoff return. I hope they showed during Monday night. Football these kids today. They don't know what they had on twitter they get all the highlights. They want with their tweets tweets and their instagram. And they're purple hair and they're Sony Walkman right all right Chris Rock and roll music. It's the devil's music I eh. Chris is GonNa be with us for a couple of segments and your calls as always welcome coast to coast border to border One eight hundred eight seven eight play big shot at as always always to the troops listening on American Forces Radio Network a lot of you in the military. You love the COMEDIANS. and Chris's well five hundred dollars. One hundred seventy seven countries ships at sea Hope you're doing. Well Steve Sekou keep up the good work tune in APP iheartradio APP stitcher APP twitch twitch DOT TV APP. As I just mentioned you you can watch us as well. CRN digital to on your TV set all that and more. Come on back Chris Porter and Jack Youngblood. You're in charge of hiring and indeed has solutions. I like online skills tests which lead candidate show that they're the right. 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Let's bring the playoffs home with our exclusive sportsbook Partner Bet online dot ag tax again and and the bank through the show in a sir. Gawain said I saw aw Rick Kittles got a blackbelt in keeping it real well. We thought since we had a Kansas City. Guess we'd play Authentic Kansas City music. That's my favorite moby song. They haven't heard the name movie hundred years. He's working at Buffalo Wild Wings night shift manager turntables. He's he's out there and he deejays on the weekends. But what city Oh It's right outside all day he's an upstate guy. Even upstate guy. Chris Porter is a stand up comedian and he's been gone a long time and You might have seen his Special pages like six years ago now. ugly and angry agree and last year. He did man from Kansas. But you know normally and I don't usually talk too much about you know you're sad I just like to have conversations and says you know and but it's interesting as we were talking about. You came in here when the the royals lost to the giants came in here when they won and then you came in here when windy when d Ford was off side. What do you and by the way? Now he's on the other team. Do you think hey man it's football and where do you think I hate deport. I I know that he was on the other team to be honest with you. Know it doesn't bother me in the least I mean it's a business thing. Obviously the offsides was bomber. I don't think he did it on purpose. I'm out of here next year. Let's not let's just end this now. you know. But also that was par for the course for chiefs playoff football. Like from ninety three 'til pin just staccato. Yep For meal the hand Chromium Edwards for a short time. You play to win the game. Romeo Cornell Oh there he was there in the horrible suicide in the parking lot. Yeah those were dark times dark times and and Andy Reid though is a fantastic coach and He's a excellent play caller. He has not had a champion. But he's under the Mike. Holmgren Bill Walsh coaching tree. And the most exciting quarterback in football. How you how you feel in you know I'm happy we're here happy we're doing it? It's a long time common obviously want to win the game. But I'm scared I'm frightened. I'm nervous But I also I've talked to a few forty because what I what I did last night and I'm going to do with the rest of the weekend is I walk up on stage in chiefs jacket And so here. The cheers turned to boos and then we get into wearing a book. Buchanan Jersey so But I had a lot of guys come up to me after the show last night and everyone's nervous I think the forty niners of nervous. We're nervous it's going to be a you know. Hopefully the the best super bowl ever well this is not. I mean you look at the niners and you see five Lombardi trophies and you're like Oh this. Isn't that team now. The Different Team Different Stadium. Now they have their pedigree but then again so do you somewhat super bowl four now. The Super Bowl Super Bowl one one super bowl for and then we gave you guys fifty of them. So now we're back and now we're going to take the next fifty now. I've talked to some people in in media in Kansas City city and when the royals won the world series. They said we just knew that would never happen. Even though I saw it happened in eighty five. Yeah I'm old old. This is the first time in your life that the chiefs have been in the sewer. Did you kind of think it was like we're the browns where the lions that's not going to know never thought that never never thought that in the middle like we just don't have that losing pedigree We have that middle of the road pedigree You know we've never been one one and whatever we've never been over We've always been four and twelve at the worst But no I never thought we were cursed or anything. I just thought maybe in the playoffs. Yeah we had in like I remember what was it. Two years ago. Kelsey got it was. It was the game. where the titans speeders by throwing a touchdown to Mar Marcus? Mariota threw a touchdown himself. Are you guys. That's buds with Kelsey. No Santino Tino Andrew. Santana really good puzzled him. I am not. I don't know any of the chiefs on you. Know just just are trying to keep him at arm's length. Well you think about their celebrity fans are mid Eric Stonestreet and Paul Rudd and David Kochner and chasing Sudoku Rob Riggle wriggles another one. I'll canes city guys Kansas. It's amazing. How many comedy guys are from Kansas City? But it's funny because I look at Clark hunts. It's box and it looks like a medieval castle. Have you ever seen what is box at Arrowhead. Looks John I'll have to show you during the break a lot a lot of dark stone. It's funny because Shaq was on the walls. My parents used when the raiders moved back in ninety five. My parents used to go to one away game a year and when you're they went to Kansas City and they are very impressive when it was freezing. Yeah the home of the chiefs. They just said they thought it was great and they said most people were very very nice to him but there was a famous steakhouse. I don't know which one it was but there are waiting in line to get in and my dad said to my mom goes I think. That's Lamar Hunt in line in front of us. Yeah and so. He's going to be that guy but he goes. I'm sorry goes. Aren't you in Lamar Hunt. And he's like yeah I am he goes sorry for asking. But why are you waiting in line. And Lamar Hunt said. I'm no better than anybody else. He flew coach. Craig all the time. Yeah he just he always wanted to hang out with the people they don't get I. Don't get it all as soon as I make my money. You'll never see me me again. VIP Booth I'll be in the VIP like we're not even the VIP's can go you're behind the VIP. Yeah I'm on the Anti Lamar Hunt. I want status. I want first class and I want you away from it. That's kind of like Clark I think. Yeah Yeah I think that's an old school kind the thing also he grew up Lamar and a time where like people kept their distance and they would stand off to the side and just go out to Lamar Hunt and not let him be. We now are in this instagram Internet. Thing where people. Hey as soon as don't even wait to finish that by the food. Just take this picture with me and I'll I'll be on my way and it's yeah so you kind of have to have that Bay area of people. It's funny just as an aside or one time I was doing the as pre and post for three years and I used to hang out before the game in the visiting clubhouse and Dugout and it's funny that young chief team with hosmer and royal. Sorry the young royals team with those guys Duffy and they were they were really fun. They were fun guys. Hang out with. Yeah and I'd like to be one day. Detroit was in town and Prince fielder was out there and he signed autographs for twenty minutes and then some guy comes down. Some you know bench coach Prince come on a man come on get up here so he starts jog away in two guys reached out and he ran by me he goes. What an a hole? I'm letting everybody know that. Prince fielder socks Mike. He Yeah he just did twenty. He's at work right now. Just because you showed up late doesn't mean he's a whole right but it seems like Kansas. It's funny because my friends tell me. They go rick if you if if you did what you do in San Francisco and Kansas City. You'd be a celebrity. The radio guys in Kansas City are huge. I mean they are. They are portly I I don't know how they're kind of Kansas City thing. We like our food and we like beer but here I'm fat. Maybe I'd be skinny. You'd be hanging hanging out. Everyone would love you. You skinny I mean a lot. I guess it's the Midwest and general listens to a lot of sports talk because they drive a lot or whatever but I mean surrend. Petro comes to my shows and no one knows who he is. I didn't even know he uh he hand me his car. Like oh I thought your voice sounded familiar and no. I don't think they're huge. I mean not that you wouldn't be carried into the city on golden coach is yeah I don't think and also it's like people there are so ignorant renton stupid for the most part. They probably would hate you for like one thing. You said five years ago that they just held onto I could go to the power and light and get a free beer Miami I share. Okay I sure all right. I'll plan on that. We'll take a quick break and we'll come back with Chris Porter. He is at the punchline. He has a show tonight to tomorrow to Saturday. Come on back it. Aw I'm going to tell you how you can get real healthcare for as little as six dollars dollars a day. 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The phone call is free. y'All just dial one eight hundred eight seven eight lay to get yourself on the air right now call him up now lazy ass one. Eight hundred eight seven eight lay but I think you should be but man when I'm talking to my team you're my assistant okay. You're supposed to back me up and go get me. Juice is boxes when I tell you now. Go get me a juice box. You're talking to. I'm talking to box guy yeah crazy. I'm not crazy I'm thirsty. Go to hell go to Al.. Why are you there? What do you crappy jobs box juice box boy? I'll tell you that yes you are nice. You know. I'm not thank thank you for that Can't welcome back to the show to the with. You have so much fun here. Chris Porter Comedian Al punchline tonight tomorrow Saturday coming up in the next segment Jack Young Blood Super Bowl linebacker. Let me ask you this. Chris Porter Ultimate Kansas City Fan. You're walking down the street and Casey on one sidewalk. There's Patrick Mahomes is by the other sidewalk George Brett Patrick Patrick. I'm Ed George Couple Times. He's a he's an interesting. I'll tell you a quick George Brett Story. I've been doing this show eighteen years and I remember when I first started working here. There was one of our producers who was he was good but he was such an ass and he go George Bread. You WanNa be on the show and George. Don't call me. Don't call me here. He can he. Can he got home phone number and the third time George Brett said I'm going to to change my home phone number. Do you know how hard that's going to be for me to all my friends and business associates so finally this guy goes all right. I won't call you anymore. And it's relentless its Throat Business Chris for sure Georgia's George's he's a strange dude My my dad cooked dinner really He cooked dinner for like donated it to the Church and they bought it and George was there and They lake he goes he goes. Yes MMG is. What is this because it's a grilled salad? And he goes is that what all these lines are. You saying Yeah George. Those are grill lines all right. Well this is the other thing too when team start winning. And I've seen it here with the giants. On the Warriors You get the Bandwagon Fan. Yep A- are you okay with those I want. I remember in fourteen when the royals went to the playoffs and got into the world series like all the sudden everyone every every store was sold out of royal scare and I was like we have had this team for forty years. And you don't have one piece of royal scare if nothing else just to wear to the game on the one time you go year and I just took a picture. I laid out every piece of royals clothing. I had which was a lot right and took a picture of it put on its round like some of us. Don't need to go shopping this week. Now some of US have been here. I have a friend that she was back there at the K.. And she created the shirt that said straight out of Kaufman. Yes it was after the white sox fight yeah and the MLB told her to cease and desist and then there was a lawsuit involve real. Because you can't use use the name Kaufman. You can't even use a silhouette of Eric hosmer face really that's crazy that this is what he's commercials Mersal needed. TV for the big game. Oh yeah I know super bowls trademarks and now see now I owe them three dollars and uh-huh so yeah but that's weird that you can't even say a person's last name now it's dumb. Let me by the way. This is Great Radio but WANNA show you real quick Clark Hans luxury box. DOC said Arrowhead Stadium. Oh my goodness I don't think Lamar would like little medieval palace. It looks like a Spanish. I don't know yeah. It looks like a place like a single white rich man would take a young girl to maybe keep her for like days against her will sound good. Yeah Oh and also the armor there's like a shiny suit of armor armor to one side. There's a library on the bottom floor too because if maybe you're losing you might WanNa read warranties. He's Yeah I'm sure one year it was like you know why we lost. My box isn't decorated in a Spanish architecture. I think that's a lot of it. That's the that's the problem when you have somebody who comes from hard graft work and being clever and being at Clark on making your money and then just is being born into their money. Oh Yeah Yeah. Lamar Lamar earned. It and Clark's just like now I have it here we got this. I'm gonNA redecorate things But yeah man. It's it's generational I guess. And I'm sure Clark's kid will be like I don't need this a little bit of a backlash. Maybe oh you know colors are blue and paint but also like I get it if you if you know your data's money and he's still making you fly coach. I'd me a little mad. It's like you want to go to the Super Bowl. Here's a greyhound ticket. Yeah Oh cool. We're group seven. We get to board three minutes. It's before the flight takes off. Thanks Rich Dad. Glad you're keeping it real interesting too. I think is kind of joking with Chris. Chris Puerta our guests. Terry's The punchline this weekend that your Taco Bell Bid has lived for years and years but that shows that you're also a successful comedian because you've had bits that are sold you know. Do them anymore anymore. And some bits that you've forgotten when Ian Carmel is in here years ago. I told my favorite bit was that he would be too fat for the Holocaust. Yeah he's like we had that go. Yeah so I told him and he goes. I'm putting that back in. I think that is the best one fans like. Oh I love this job. You're like that's not me Eh. Play it off spotify. Oh Man I thought I'm fine. That's a good joke for sketch fast they had a tribute to Brian. Regan someone said do your emergency room bit like nats. All they go please. He stood up at halfway through. He Goes I. I don't remember how it goes. And then somebody shout out because Oh yeah we did like another twenty seconds. And he's like because this is the most humiliating moment in my life. I have no idea how the rest of this yeah and it's on an album. We've heard it a million times. But he he made it and never listened to it. We listened to our records. I listen to my records twice and that was because I do show when I do work for Kid rock rock festivals and stuff. I usually have to do two shows and I try to make them completely different so you can come back so like usually the first night. I'll do the hour or I'm currently doing. And then the second night I literally go back and listen to all the records and Chinese a greatest hits one. That's cool. I remember you were Stephen is easy was in here is is telling me he was with Kid Rock and he had to call you or kid. Rock called you know. Got It all wrong. What happened was they were at Santa's which is a double wide Nashville that they do Karaoke? And but in the middle of nowhere. Nowhere Bobby who kid rocks real name But I call him. Oh Bob because he's a person and I have a problem calling someone kid rock so bobby was in the back you know. I like an talking to the owner. Santa and Steve Comes back because he thinks someone smoking weed or something so he wants to smokes waiting and comes back and it startled startled by kid. Rock's there and steep flustered goes. So are you gonNA do some Karaoke. Bobby's I know get data here. Steve Left so he texts me. Like Hey man chestnut kid rock did not go well. Is there any way you could tell him. mm-hmm that That I'm not stupid and so I'm like sure I was at a hotel room so I text by. I'm like hey I heard my buddy steven just ran into you just so you know. He's not and I use the R. Word And Bobby just texted back. Yes he is and that was the end of how did it. Rhyme with beleaguered. It did it very much and it's not a word. I use often but I felt like that in context in that context. It definitely definitely was warranted. All right we have a couple minutes left with Chris Porter at the punchline. Who is the guy that you're scared of on the chiefs because any anybody will tell you that your team you like Those two guys they always let us down dammit player to your like our. When I see him I get scared? No I would say. There's one section of the the of the team that scares me and that's the D.. Line but I mean obviously we just signed suggs and we got the other on the other and I can't remember his name So it's could but look the first eight weeks of our season. Our defense was terrible and then it just turned on a dime. I don't know what happened. I don't know who the assigning was Tashaun. Matthew obviously stepped up but yeah it's that under that's where the game is going to get won or lost. I think it's in our front floor. I actually you mentioned the day that suggs could be an x factor. Because you know he went back to Arizona. You went because he played at Arizona State and he's got an old man he missed like eight games and they're like all right in and like well. Kansas City wants me. Yeah but when he was with Ray Lewis and all them in Baltimore he was a beast and that not only that he's been breasting the whole season. A lot of these guys are beat up from a season's worth of work and he's not that's definitely an advantage on our end but to that same and he's probably not as condition as he should because he has had eight eight weeks off but he can suck it up for he's GonNa play twenty plays anyway and it's also the super bowl kicks in and Terrell Owens can play on a with a s lateness lateness foot. That's bleeding I think. I think he'll be fine. You can you give me just for fun. Final score prediction. Thirty eight thirty five chiefs so a hell of a game a shootout. Yeah well and I think for those two teams. That's actually low scoring I mean you're talking about leading the chiefs put up about fifty a game so But had that forty nine defense is really solid but Our defenses coming around but it takes time to adjust like our. I've noticed with our defense. Our game plan usually isn't great and then we figure out what they're doing then we adjust pretty well right last play games. They are asleep in the first half. Yeah yeah well and to be fair especially during that Texans game a bunch just stuff went their way like with the drop fumble and all that stuff but then yeah when we on that kickoff where we hit the guy and caught in got the ball back I it was like it's we're fine. This is going to be fine. Chris Order he is at the punchline tonight to shows tomorrow to shows on Saturdays well hey a an have a good a super bowl and we'll we'll see you next time. Hopefully you're happy that you brought up Iraq till Jack Youngblood on the other side. 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And that is Jack youngblood pardon when I was a kid he was about as intimidating linebacker as there was in the National Football League and he is here on behalf of southern recipe small batch on pork rind appreciation day check. Thanks for being on the show and I know that. This company has teamed up with the the Gridiron Greats Assistant Fund is. They have they have. They've teamed up with with Mike Mike Ditka and we've been doing this for L.. Some probably twenty years trying to assist Retired players who are having some issues especially the health health issue things and at the same time. Health Issues Causes Financial Solutions and so Mike. Mice got a big heart. I mean he was. He was a tremendous player and and a great coach and and now the announcer announcer. and He. He's he's got a heart you know as as big as possible and he's tried to do his best to give some assistance to the retired players. Who have been overlooked for the most part? How are you holding up because I played football in college in the eighties and I kind of wondered if I have? Ct Not all these things occurred us now and you know I saw what happened to Jim auto and all the knee operations. How are you doing a I'm not sure I've not hit depends on it depends on what time do you get out of bed in. In which direction can you know when when when you play Fourteen years in and then four years college. It's up. We've we've we've done. We've done some things to body that that really shouldn't have been done for the most part but it it same time would would you do it all over again. Absolutely no doubt and I just had Shannon Sharpe on the show and we're basically saying that you know they were senile people people before there was ever football. So that's how you don't know as footballers am I just getting older. Yeah but you you increase the chances for uh-huh when you're when you're going up against three hundred pounder and and he's he's meaning ugly and you're trying to get away from. Ah It definitely increases the probability of something going wrong with the body now and when you're playing the rams and niners that great rivalry revelry which was mostly on your side so when you think about the Niner's in this game do you still see that. SF and think. I hate those guys or is that just all water under the bridge. Now I hate those guys. No I don't WanNa be ugly but I mean you think about it. I played I played them. I played them twenty eight times in my career and you know it was a battle every every time. And so they're they're my archrival. In fact in fact have my wife Barbara and I was watching the the divisional ballgame and sh I look over and then she looks she goes why. Why are we watching these two teams and that's it you're right? I hate both of them. I love the big. They've they've they've really good football players on both teams and they they got some some outspending ones especially especially on on On San Francisco Defense and And that that young quarterback is He's he's he something to be to elite has to be handled with. And and then you you look at the you look at the red side. The Kansas City side and that the home kit is is is a tremendous athlete. And if he can he can get through eight or ten twelve. What maybe twelve twelve seasons? He's going to. He's going to be wearing a yellow jacket. Yeah no doubt about it. We're speaking with Jack Youngblood. On behalf of of Pork Rind Appreciation Day southern recipes. Small Bats will get to that in a second. I love the fact that you are eighty five and you knows a Raider Fan. You had been Davidson. Ted Hendricks of both were eighty three that the wide receiver number. Now what what do you. What do you think about that now? It's switched to the other side. I don't know if it means anything or not and be honest with you. It's a carry over from your cottage states. It's basically And I can remember flying into the first Rookie camp when I got drafted in. It dawned on me. I didn't know what number hours GonNa done yet. And I said you know that might be funder to get seventy four again and and be a defensive ended in and I'm thinking and I didn't know who the rams really did not know who the rams work and I walked into the locker room and Mr Hewitt our equipment man had Mona Nelson's Jersey hanging on the on the first locker and it was facing that doorway in that as well I I went. Well I think maybe that was. That was a great transition those rosy Rosey grier Merlin Olsen days kind of that the transition into the new rams with the Hacksaw Reynolds right right. Right and Freddie Pretty Dryer there brooks you know drake players make players. They you know we still have a tremendous relationship with those guys week. We we have. We cherished one another. We trusted one another week. We went out there and and we sweated and we bled and we hurt ourselves it. Was You know an experience that is hard to explain how good it is. You know I think about Fred Dwyer just as hammer and having that Hollywood career. Do you think that would have happened if you guys weren't rams like if you were playing for Atlanta or something because you were around all that Glitz that was that was one of the advantages of being out there in in In La and you know pretty and and and Merlin in and and Gabe you know those three and missile to a certain degree. There was those opportunities that were there. I had a few of those opportunities but I didn't like it. I did not like you know the environment of of acting and and being L. Television you know in in in those situations but Yeah there was some fun days no doubt about it Do Do you think that return now to La Proper Not Carson but this brand new stadium and and now it's going to be shared with the chargers which is kind kind of like there'll be like the roommate on the futons. I guess but what does that GonNa mean when you think about our stadium can run up as much as a billion dollars. This one's like five billion in dollars. What does it all mean? I think they've they. They've been in a challenge coming from Dallas out. WHO's GonNa who's GonNa build the biggest in Venice estes of them all and I you know having having having somebody else in there with you that the charger fan overlap and the and the rams fans certainly hurt me? I don't think are going to overlap with the chargers so I think it's all right. I just hope that you know well. It's all going to be on on earth. In the first place show is going to be it will be as damaging to the seventy as if it was just after grass. I was just wondering. Is this the first interview. You've you've done this week. Where my the first question wasn't about playing on a broken leg Started at seven this morning. Hey and I and I tell them. Every time I tell them that they will slide. And how did you do that. I said well I wrote a book about it. Yeah because it was Sunday down. That's my answer. Oh I love that all right. Let's talk a little bit about southern recipes. Small Bats we've had many guests over the years and It's funny because you know you think Park Ryan's and you think well how's how's that good for you. Well they're high protein low carb. They're they're Kito friendly. It's it's actually a pretty when you get snack It really is it really is I I love I love You know things like that that have high protein. You know you wanna you WanNa try to conspiring as lean as you possibly. Can you know just just from heart problems But yeah they've Southern southern recipe is teamed up with you know with the ground greats trying to trying to help retired players who get get into some situations where you know. Their health is gone bad and that causes Some financial issues. Let me ask you a question. I had an idea because because there's always complaining about how football is the highest revenue producing sport. But it's the only sport with part-time wraps. I thought well if you're going to have part time wraps we always hear about about. NFL players. Maybe a little bit down their locker. They only played a year or two in there. Why not make every Raff a former player I think they understand the spirit of the law better better than just the letter of the law absolutely and and I think if if the offer would would be made eight visor by the League I think we would see a lot of retired players Come to come to the forefront. 'cause they know the game they understand the physics of it. You can't you can't stop collisions when you're going when you're three hundred pounds and you're going real fast breaks just aren't there right. No doubt about all right Finally I wanted to get to this because because we know we were kind of joking a little bit about see. But it's something near and dear to you and you open the Jack Youngblood Center for Neuro Enhancement. This this is a very important. We're just really in the infancy of studying. What what blows to the head me not just in football but in soccer and boxing and other things right correct and and the neuro neuroscience than I was I I've done I would probably three hundred sessions of it over the course of Four or five years and it it it it makes a difference it sustains the the the activity of the brain has it gives you he can't but it can sustain where you all jack youngblood from radio row. Thanks for your time and I know you've had a busy day day Have a great super bowl and remind everybody pork rinds. Dot Com. Check it out. We really appreciate it. Hopefully we'll catch up down the road man. Good man thank you very much. Go get them now. I'm rick little. Come on coming home watching watching. I have some time. The imagine. This is your money and someone wants to take it from you. Who is it the IRS? They want your money and guess what they can legally take it all of it if they want remember. They sent you that letter that said. Hey you always a bunch of cash and we're going to take it from you. So what do you do fight back. By letting our team of experts at tax helpline work it out with the IRS. So you can keep your money and we're good at what we do. When you hire us you'll get a team of guys on your side? 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He does not like being heckled and the Knicks are in complete disarray and they have thirteen wins. This isn't like the warriors you know. This isn't like the world's number they said we're getting Zion and then we're getting Kyrie then we're getting durant and getting any of that crap you know the warriors everybody's hurt and they got ten wins. What's their era? Excuse they just stink parentally and so when you know Katie had it out with my old buddy bt saying you should have gone to the garden it's like why do I want to garden for that. I mean I think it'd be great to play for the Knicks but I'm just a guy if you're a player. I can see why you want to avoid that place like the plague aac tomorrow night. Time it. We don't have brain damage you're listening to the Hartman. Newsfeed Radio Network Broadcasting Live twenty percent Mino- by news. 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What did you think of the the two shows? Last night shows live no-show from the boats obviously annex building towards annexed takeover. Portland where in fact Tomasa Champa is going to be getting shot against Adam Cole for the title and obviously eight of the ability to their pay per view at the end of this month as well thoughts on those shows. Welcome to give us a call here today on that or anything that is on your mind. One eight hundred eight seven eight play. That is one eight hundred eight seven eight play toll. Free Number one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine. You text four to five seven eight zero seven five six six my email Brian and wrestling observer dot com. Or you can tweet me at Bryan Alvarez. Unfortunately some sad news here today. Jose Christian Alvarado Ruis best known as maximum former world heavyweight champion and he start. EXOTICA reportedly suffered suffered a heart attack earlier today Alvarado thirty-nine the son of the legendary Super Porky Brazil. A plateau was admitted to a private hospital career today. The reports are he has recovered and is in stable condition while still under observation he will remain in hospital resting for at least twenty four hour. Super Lucia's reported this story earlier today started wrestling in two thousand became a regular with L.. Three years later became a star as the exotic Maximo. For some reason. Siri was very interested. Here in this story wearing a toga type outfits in pink career heads peak in two thousand fifteen. He defeated defeated L.. Torri Blade to win the heavyweight title but at twenty seventeen footage shown of a number of members of the elbow family destroying Ultimo graders car deprive arena Mexico. Parking lot they fired maximo stripped him of his title back. In a moment Mike Zimmer v more wrestling observer live Attention to anyone. 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Obviously they were followed by the new season of MS and MRS and so it may be throughout the entire MS and Mrs Season. There's no over on or maybe it was just the first week like they wanted to. They wanted everybody who normally switches over to switch over not miss and Mrs or something like that after he w went off the air. But here's the deal that annex t overrun I mean first off selfishly we do not need overrun for annex t There's enough product out there. Two hours totally fine. That's more than enough but they were doing the overrun and the overrun wasn't fact. A big benefit for an X. T.. Because what happened was there's not a a whole bunch of people that switch back and forth between AWS INEX- team most people. It's twenty twenty they. DVR One show. They watched the other if they're fans of both and so the DVR numbers for an exterior strong the DVR numbers for aws are huge. Right over there. Yeah having cameras sorry so anyway as I was saying here. DVR numbers are big. So there are we're about I'd say a hundred and fifty thousand people depends on the week hundred fifty two hundred thousand that do only watch one show or the other and so what happens is every Wednesday at eleven o'clock when aws goes off the air. A whole bunch of people switch to see what happens at the end of annex t and so when you see the w versus annex t numbers every week that INEX- team number is. I don't WANNA say artificially high but but the INEX- team number the overrun gives them viewership. That they did not have during the head to head to hours so the point of all of this is because cousin was no overrun. This week. All those people that normally switched in exte- when aws off the air they switched to nothing. But he's which Mrs so whatever the the number is it's it's going to be down from what it normally is and in theory this is going to hurt the exte- number every single week. Okay in theory now. We'll see what happens but you could also say in theory than the fact acted there's no annex t overrun. Maybe those fans at normally switch back and forth. Maybe this will actually hurt a w some weeks because because of annex t has a stronger main event those fans will have to switch during a w and not after eighty. W So. I guess we'll find out what everybody's viewership patterns end up being but because nobody knew there wasn't going to be an overrun tonight. I'm pretty sure that the exte- number is is ultimately going to suffer from having no Overrun and if the overrun continues to add there continues to be no overrun. I guess we'll find out what happens as far as viewership patterns but this could change the way that people have watched these shows or won't we'll find out. Yeah we'll see I mean it in the age of the DVR. I mean I don't I don't know if it necessarily matters and I know it matters for us the day after. I know it matters under twitter the day after as soon as you put those numbers they don't wait alive alive. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A. There's a peeing contest going on here. So it does matter somewhat but I mean really at the end of the day I I'm not not we'll have to see how it goes number. One it's gotta disappear for good but if it if it is going away for good we'll just have to see how it goes. I think it just it just is going into in some ways benefit the fan because if they are going up against each other in an ex he doesn't have that overrun and they both know that you know that last segment just like the opening segment should be you know as as important as the anything else on the show should be the most important thing how you go off the air so we'll have to see how it goes so this person ears says I think Dave on twitter just mentioned no more overruns for Annex T was USA network decision. They thought it would hurt the MS and Mrs Ratings. So that's the case I mean for this season Ms and Mrs there will be no overrun and when the season ends may go back to having the overrun again. But for now now. I guess it'll be very interesting to see the numbers over the next couple of weeks. Once the fans do switch back and forth find out. There's no over. I'd like to know what the philosophy philosophy is on that. If you are getting such a spike they comes over because of the overrun. You would think in theory that you would like to keep those is people there so I wonder what the decision making is. If it's a demographic issue where they want people who aren't rustling then obviously they would want that anyway for reality reality show like that but if they are concerned that those people who turn it on our immediately gonNA turn it back off again because they don't see Maurice there they don't see a eight candidate hand Reality Show Kinda scene if that's what the concern is because otherwise it's kind of a surprise would want to go away when they know they're getting that spike of yours it comes over and that lasts. I'll tell you why do so I'll tell you why MS and Mrs last year on an average night did over over a million viewers so annex t on an average night lately doing about seven hundred thousand viewers so yes there is concern that people are going to switch over to watch miss and MRS and they don't see it and so they don't watch it. Ms and Mrs is the more valuable property right now. In terms of your ship and MS and Mrs Dozen Fact Act attract viewers who aren't fans of pro wrestling. They do it does attract reality show fans so that would be why they wanna get an x not off the air to make way for the show that actually does over a million viewers. How did they air that show bionic? Because I'm honestly ignorant I can't recall last year. Did they always kind of run and like old. WWe programming old MS Mississippi before debut episode. Or how did that did the million plus. It was Tuesday at ten o'clock so I don't know what the lead in was but if anybody knows let us know so. Mike didn't see and exte- last night but he did see w the annex t show there was some very good wrestling on the show. Trent seven thin valor. I absolutely loved that match. The Big Moves Damian. Priest and and Dominic Jakovic was a lot of fun. I can't say it was like a great traditional pro wrestling match because there was a middle rope. Reverse FRANKEN Steiner wasn't a finish that led immediately to the other guy winning so it was all about a bunch of big moves by big dudes. Have we seen this matching our h before is it was a typical of their fair of late. The those two guys doing their big athletic stuff that they usually do. Dominic will do with Keith Lee. I don't know but we've seen them do this. Next exte- this is this is what they do. The teagan Knocks Dakota kyw match their big battle. That yesterday I said no interest in seeing because of how they a botched the storyline these to get in here and they beat the hell out of each other. I thought this match was great. It didn't go a long time. It was just this brutal title battle. I thought they killed each other. There was one spot where Dakota where the post and dude. I don't know how she didn't kill herself. Corner this post and then teagan actor like right in the head with this knee brace and then pender the probably GonNa keep going but man. This was great. And then the main event Ritalin done versus the gristle young vets may have ended the dusty classic. I actually thought the opening match with the Mustache Mountain was a better match and remember saying at the time like this May as well have been the final title. Because I don't know how anyone is going to have a better match than this and nobody did. But they've got a plan so little done one and now they you're getting a championship match against undisputed era at the takeover Portland show so as far as good wrestling. I mean there was some great stuff on the annex t show and then nea w show was fun is always. It was more of a professional wrestling show then. Annex T was including her in regards to building up angles and such for their pay per view they had the butcher and the blade versus the young bucks were. MGM wants to pay off the butcher knife blade to kill the young bucks because the young bucks threw him into a swimming swimming pool and he can't swim. That's the story line so that was great but the young bucks one and they're setting up an eight-man for next week we had this amazing professional professional wrestling. Match with cody and KIP. Sabin with like a million wacky things happening in the middle of this match. It all made sense and all played in all of their storylines lines. I love that match the Brit Baker Promo. I will fight anybody that thought. This promos sucked this. Promo was great. And then of course in the main event private party Darby L. versus Jericho and proud and powerful. We talked about that and more after the break wrestling's or live. Imagine this is your money and someone wants to take it from you. Who who is it the IRS? They want your money and guess what they can legally take it all of it if they want remember. They sent you that letter that said. Hey it was a bunch of cash and we're going to take it from you. So what do you do fight back. 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If you want to give us a call here today one eight hundred eight eight seven eight play one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine going to go to the phones here in a moment. The phone lines are full flooded with new listeners today based on texts and the emails and calls person says Bryan the lead in for Mrs on Tuesday was smackdown on USA. Well that'd be pretty good leading. He the two million average every week. So obviously we're going from a two million average lead into a seven hundred thousand average lead in so they don't want that overrun so there's your answer sir. My man you're on the air what's going on them as has been winning. The Wednesday night wore goodguys. Well he's he's not on Wednesday well was not the reason wasn't an overrun on well. There is now we'll find out if we don't even know how that show did. We'll I'll give MRS numbers later. We'll see if they missed an important detail on observer radio when you because we're talking about the Promo with Kenny Omega and Adam Page with the young bucks yes I do agree. It's great that impeach As a baby face then he should stay a baby things but there was a diesel where he told the young bucks. Yeah look they need. They made the nameplates for everyone in the company. I'm behind and you guys yours. Since I don't think they're gonNA need them so he's basically this like you guys aren't going to become the champion. Well Yeah I wanNA thank you very much to the call. I mean we in the point it was like you know take these. You might need them some day but I read into it the same way that you did. But I hadn't even thought of that before now. We have to do ratings for eight. W YOU ANNEX T and Ms Mrs even though MS and misses his not head-to-head my God. Can you imagine if ms and Mrs did in fact win the Wednesday night wars every week doc which they very well could because they've got a wrestling audience and a casual audience watching that show or maybe because they're following exte- they won't do a million viewers. I guess we'll I guess we'll see this will be very interesting now. I'm fascinated just after one o'clock everybody. I gotta be honest with somebody. Fast forwarding to what the Bellas do being being a week and a half apart you know when they start filming all that stuff and I wonder what the with what is on USA and obviously they've had their issues with original programming programming. I I can imagine how much a total bellas with both of them. Pregnant both seasons the lead up to them probably be announced that they're pregnant and they brand new season as they go through their their pregnancy together. I can only imagine how much they're going to pour behind that show in those to go to Tony in Philly. What's going on Tony? You're on the air what's happening you. Brian I got an idea for for you. So do you know it was announced This month for wrestlemania weekend was announced this month. For wrestlemania weekend there was a lot things. Yeah Josh Barnett. Blood Sport three. Yes somebody gives you this idea for free. Let's make it happen. Brian Alvarez versus filthy Tom Three years in the making. Tom Is my good friend and I will not be facing him in blood sport. Remember though you are a professional he would also kill me. So there's that real quick. I wanted to talk about. NHTSA W normally off on Wednesdays. But I was working and I work at a video hub where I'm able to wash multiple. TV So I watched them side to side not the most ideal way to watch it but after watching it I honestly asleep on the. Nasdaq the better show. I feel like the Dusty Cup. Finals was a great match. I think a top anything on. Aws TV. I'd like your your thoughts on that and one final thing is the super bowl is on Sunday. Why are they not doing halftime heat again? I thought that was a great idea. That was good to draw in viewers and I thought the match they put on with great match. Well I wanNA thank you very much for the call and I cannot answer the question as to why. They're not doing halftime heat. I had heard that they were discussing the idea of halftime he. This was a while ago and with smackdown now on Fox I mean I don't know it seems he's like it would have been a good idea but I guess they're not doing it this year so far as the quality of the two shows. You must wait until tonight's bright Vinnie show and we do our official tally of which show. We thought won the war last night but I did enjoy both of those shows. So how's that for an answer. There doesn't Fox have the Super Bowl of course then there's your answer well is what the Super Bowl and they have smackdown. So but then. Why on God's earth would they ever put a halftime heat on anything that would take away anything from the halftime show that they are paying a gazillion gazillion dollars? For Pepsi's paying ZILLION dollars for next year gotta be. It's gotTa be part of that halftime. Show no no no no no no. You don't no offense to wrestling wrestling. I love wrestling. Let's come on time show and you have a ring in the foreground guys wrestling in there while they do their. They have a ninety ninety seven hour. Pre show. That's where you put that. That's where you WanNa pimp your shows including smackdown being one of them your properties okay. I just if I mean to to do that with the Super Bowl. I know you don't like sports. But that's just absolute utter insanity to put it on another property that would take eyeballs away. We'll put it on Fx. No No. I mean it's lunacy to me Spurs. Why did Ortiz get rid of the Afro? He was supporting the past few weeks. I was sad to not see him again. The second coming of Pampero FIRPO. Definitely the breakout star of his team like Otis heavy machinery rude. I can't answer any questions about Ortiz's hair but I can tell you this. I got my hair braided and I took it out a week later. Maybe Ortiz decided. He wanted to get his hair braided and then he took it out. They'll take it out next week. I don't know I mean maybe someone there's GonNa say dude bring the Afro Buddy Afro was awesome. Maybe he likes having his hair braided but he decided he was going to go. All PAMPERO FIRPO. When Pampero FIRPO died I don't have an answer the answer for you but you know what hair or no hair or teases awesome? So I don't care what he does with his hair long as he's out there being awesome every week it. It wasn't until I went on the boat that really like watched Ortiz House like God. This guy is great. He's so great so anyway anyway big fan of this Ortiz Fella. Christopher in Connecticut. You're on the air. What's going on Haberman Keith? Comments at a question for you First of all on just a rumble to come in. And your phone's terrible. Getting their clothes buddy. I thought that the rumble was like the what royal normal is basically perfect especially with the story of match being Drew McIntyre tire edge. It was especially good in hindsight because in Edges second-to-last pay per view match. Jack you actually. It was actually a woman nation chamber where he wine with Not Entire thing. His only real title shot brought in that chamber And then on what you were saying last night about Barron Corbin and and Roman reigns being at the Super Bowl thing today. Okay so And I don't know if they was colored the The Booker T. common buried about it being the longest rumble actually did make sense. No it didn't because because there's like twenty minutes after the thirtieth man my friend Christopher thank you very much for the call eight to knock you off the line. But to listen there have been two royal rumbles thirty minutes. You understand what I'm saying so with ninety second intervals. The the absolute minimum if number thirty got in that Royal Rumble and Brock threw him out in one second. It's still forty five minutes and one second they don't do there's two there's two royal rumbles that went thirty minutes at Mike. Listen I love you. But when they fudged the time they always fudge it long they never fudge it short. I time these if the if the interval hits ninety seconds but they're still running spots they wait until they're done running spots then they hit the clock but they never go o clock at forty seconds after the last one. I don't think Tom and I watched every single solitary royal rumble. I'd ever been one. Single instance where they fudge the time low but they always fudge it high. So it's impossible that this would have been the shortest royal rumble ever not to mention everybody's ignoring the fact that when I saw it if you listen to the way that Booker T. said it. The Guy was trying to say that brock was throwing out so fast that the rumble was going to be over in like a few minutes ignoring the fact that the intervals countdown no matter how L. Fast somebody gets thrown out. I can't even believe I'm still arguing about this change rules. Whenever they want to end up not down they never not one time? Mike if you find one instance where they fudged time lower. I'll say you know what you're right. Don't don't move the goalposts. The goal closer. You're moving the goal post by saying they could you know what else they can do. They can put the upside down. They can everyone fight to get on top of an upside down ring. Yeah they could do that but you know what they are not GonNa do that. You don't know that at this point. I know that it's actually would be forty three thirty one. Because what did you start at zero. You're right that's still more than thirty minutes. Everybody can go back and listen to the original thing. 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Note this person here says I was at the dynamite taping last night actually was my sixth Awa live event. I thought the cody cody. KIP match was awesome. Even it was full of gimmicks the dark match with spears was equally full of gimmicks. But I thought that was just as awesome and superfund. I tell taste something everyone and we all know this. If we really look deep down into our hearts why do we ever get interested in in pro wrestling in the first place. Why did we ever become fans? I'll tell you why because it was fun. Do you here Mike. Because it was fun and you know what that match last night that wasn't like a technical classic it wasn't the dusty classic finale. But I'm telling you something maybe I'm the only one in a year. I'm going to have no idea who won the dusty classic without looking it up on Wikipedia but I will never forget when penelope four and Chris Sabin went in to kiss each other and Joey Geneva's had popped up from the front row between them and they both kissed him and he smiled and they freaked out any flip them off. I died too. Yeah so what brides. So Blackie hears it was so fun I the one have fun watching wrestling. I get that and I'm not gonNA beat this to death and it's not the most over the show but the reality is I didn't mind that spot. I would not have minded if he was wrestling somebody else. I didn't think it had to be in. A cody Rhodes match and Dan. I didn't think it fit and I think to juxtapose that their undercard wacky little few we've seen In some ways a zillion times times over the years and wrestling having that with what with cody and having the aren't thing in there too like that to me would have been enough and I just don't think I just didn't think it was necessary in that. Match with those two with cody being in the match if he was kicked saving against somebody else fine you know but with the main event guys fan of now with that said did I hate the spot. No Do I love good sight gag. Of course the oldest thing obviously i. It came up with wrestling in the eighties and nineties. It's we all like sight gags. It's pro wrestling and it's not just now. It's been for years but I just thought in that particular match in in that moment I I didn't like that one. Do you know how many times I watch her. Attitude era and stone cold. Steve Steve Austin the tippy top main eventers in the ring of son William Regal's music hits for example and he comes down and his whole role is just to take a prat fall off the stone. Cold stunner through irritated hurt Austin won bid Iraq hearing to be all relation. Things was a wacky comedy thing and then you know what happened. Cody Rhodes grabbed this dude. And he hit a springboard stunner and he hit him with his Finnish and the place goes crazy and then he didn't finish again and they went crazy and then he hit him with is the third time and they went crazy. Dinner dispatch one bit. How many times times comedy Jericho's involved in? How many times did naked million run out on stone cold and if he did would have not have just stunned everybody standing were were they were? I'm sure that would happen. Probably did have saying didn't make any difference whatsoever. Austin was still ossining. Cody is still cody again. I'm not over his avid. Be The fun police police on this right now. I want you to tell me about royal rumble interview intervals. While you're trying to get your feet back on me. You know what I mean. Don't don't you try to stop seeing. Jim Cornet Senate light. This person says that cody Kip match with so much fun with aren't and Penelope involved and I love the three consecutive crossroads this funny about that crossroads cody some credit here. You couldn't do it. I couldn't no one else can either Steal Watch people try to do this move. He made. They've made fun of it in a in a promo it gets botched on both channels. Dude cody hits this move. It looks like the killer move you've ever seen in your life. It looks so awesome awesome and everybody else tries it and it just looks weird. I can't even figure out why it's so hard I've never even tried it. Don't you hate me if I face. Filthy blood sport it. I'll try to hit it with a crossroads. Well you were watching all the old. WCW Is Reno on there. Didn't he do the role of the dice. Wasn't that the crossroads. He I thought had a pretty good one to look. I I pay as little attention to Reno fence to the guy understandable all right. Let's go back to the phones right. Here I think Brent Albany is on the Air Brent. What's going on how you doing guys I called last week while you're on the cruise and hope you have fun by the way talk talking like a gym about the. He'll turn Korea Baker and I don't know if you knew this they cut to commercial mid mid Promo which ruined it for me but this week was phenomenal. I went into her this week. This week. Played off them cutting commercial in the middle of it. That actually in hindsight better. Yeah yeah absolutely. I think great. He'll now would like to see who do you think she should face as her first match as an official he'll you know man. I want to thank you very much for the call. I don't even know I'm not even thinking that far ahead. All I'm thinking about is how crate. That Promo was last night. It was so great and I didn't even notice like I keep seeing the the animated Gif on on twitter but it wasn't until I saw it on the big screen that I realised what Toni Shivani said. When she talked about starbucks on the boat I was crying? Such a great reaction then she goes out there and she just cuts the best. He'll promo and her pushy had good poise. She had good delivery. She had great lines. These fans were furious and this was a show where like this was not an awa crowd. Were no matter what they see their into their stuff on the show last night. The neither rose match was won. The what else was there at the end helical jackhammers match was another one where they were just quiet sitting there. They're like they were just there to enhance everything in those matches. They were just like watching the match they got into that you mentioned the end but man she cut that Promo and they were furious. It was great What helps is in? This is something you Dave with Don last night you anything else. Pittsburgh sucks six. That's what they were chanting because they were in Cleveland and cheese from asked what they were saying and football. So that's what that was. Now I think the only thing was like last week last week I mean for after match in her being you know. It's not like she has been doing this for a long time in front of you know five six seven thousand people whatever it is so you know there is a little bit of a curve there and I think you have to some of these people in in different scenarios and the same way that you gotTa have a little bit of kid gloves. Sometimes I mean everybody's everybody's kind of learning on the fly here but I thought ripois after the match was fantastic and I think the only thing that hurt this week was the same thing that hurt last week. Was it just goes goes on for a little bit too long. It's probably better to chop some of those segments and one thing I think they ought to be careful with two is. I'm not saying have one dedicated educated person and let it be Brit Baker that Hammers Tony Shivani. But I don't think that the fan base and I don't think that Tony Shivani number one. I don't think it's a good idea for the announcer anyway and number two. I don't think that their fan base and the people that like Tony Shivani constantly want to see him getting beaten up and being treated like this frumpy piece of trash and that seems to be what everybody does. Now somebody I kind of I don't WanNa say criticized for but somebody who I think it's long tooth with that stuff is mg AF. But I felt last night was a great example. I think the best showcase for M J F so far as far as his whole overall game being where it is is now granted he had somebody in his ear tone probably when to talk and what not to talk but when he did talk last night it shows you that he is more than just. The Don rickles insult comic came on commentary. The more you can do that in the more comfortable you make him just the better. It's going to be because I think sometimes he do. He does get way too you stock into one track thing of just being the concept of the constant insult machine when his verbiage in his delivery and everything that comes with it is so much more than that. Huckabee edit. You're on the air what's going on what's up. You definitely getting better. So just what a first of all guys a the great content you know. The boats called the collective courage. Because the real thing I want to mention is that I think. Aws It has a clear advantage over annexed east other that you saw the stars I think a w is not afraid of trying. Things is let offense to think outside said the box said they hear the feedback. They change it. The good example the commercial breaks and other good examples added page. He was hot and cold Wisconsin. My everything was the very systematic. Like if you have the gift moments from Keith me than they like okay the next match how to make gifts so My question is if if you can give advice to annex t and they will hear you 'cause I think they should just let loose at least let someone say a problem that Tim screw up. What will happen you you know what I mean? I mean you've got metro the thrown out winning second. It can't get worse than that. So what would be your advice for an XP. Because I think the venue anymore. I don't think it's any. I think they need to do well. I WanNa thank you very much for the call. I mean they absolutely need to let loose. And this is not just annex t but the main roster and I won't waste a lot of time on this but I will mention that. DDP stepdaughter is now doing backstage interviews with Awa and she's been on aws dark Lexi and she's been doing this for three weeks and she's already more natural and had more of a human being than any of the people asking questions backstage in me. That's how overproduced debit of years. I mean everybody. You made fun of Pamela Paul Shock for the job that cheated. WCW and she was very very bad like on week one after a couple of months. Pamela Paul Shaq was in fact better than anybody doing this on the main roster of deputy me right now you know. Pamela Paul shot got that job because she was very attractive. Active do you know who. WWe hires actual real life experienced people. Were also attractive and somehow Lexi who has done this for two weeks and Pamela Paul Chocolate zero experience and did it for two months. Both of them are better and more realistic doing their job than anybody on the main roster of wwe and exte-. I I really liked the television show but it is becoming more and more like the machine every every day. The biggest difference between Annex T in the main roster is the wrestlers are actually allowed to go out there and do more than they do on the main roster you watch fin valor our on annex t last night. That dude was the greatest he was the greatest last night and him and Trent seven tore it it up. You never would have seen that on raw you never would have seen that on smackdown at the very least at least the wrestlers are getting more freedom in annexed tea but everything else about the package it's total wwe's not pro wrestling. It's me whatever. WWe Is Sports Entertainment. But I you know what it is. Whatever it is that's what an x t is and they would greatly benefit from loosening up all of that? Let these guys try to do. promos was on their own. Let the backstage interviewers actually asked real logical questions. Let them formulate their own questions. Like you can say what she'd ask to Moscow chopper like make sure you you ask him about his his championship. Match With Adam Cole. It at the show but then that's that's all you tell them. Let them formulate a question and ask the question and then maybe let them mm-hmm respond to the answer with a follow up question and then let the town like all of these things. They seem like little things. But I promise you these things are so important. And that's the one big difference between annex t and Awa that and the fact that if if INEX- has a plan and this is like a positive eddie negative like they stick to their plants unlike the main roster where things just change a weekly basis but sometimes like with Adam page this dude better not turn heel whatever they were doing. 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Shot to challenge rea- Ripley champion for the companies big show of the year with flair becoming more of a presence on exte- TV. That is of course unless beyond Taylor wins. The title at the upcoming and Exte- show and styles hopeful to be involved in Wrestlemainia suffered a separated braided shoulder bumping for edge and he basically said that was not his fault. I wanted to take a killer bump for the sky and I did and I separated my own shoulder so there you go and b. p. also announced on instagram that he's done the raw match was his final WWe match. He says the end of his career looms larger every month but he is not finished wrestling just yet so those are the quick news notes and and more news. We'll be coming any moment now. Because if you follow me on twitter at Bright Alvarez I will have the ratings for dynamite and annex t up very very very soon how boom goes the Internet as Holloway's on Thursday afternoon so check it out at Bryan Alvarez on twitter appreciate all the new followers follower here. Today we've got a lot of stuff up on the front page so check it out all sorts of great stuff. There's an observer radio from last night Vinnie back tonight reviewing a w an annex not in great detail and so much more so check it out thanks. Mike is always callers and listeners. Over to the studio talk to you. Next time wrestling observer live yeah you're listening to the Hartman. Newsfeed Radio Network Broadcasting Live twenty percent by Newsweek. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions. By you follow us on facebook twitter and INSTAGRAM'S STA grams of new service going newscasts for January twenty nine twenty twenty. I'm Mike Clifford. Aw President Trump's defense team appealed to the Senate Tuesday to disregard a new account by John. Bolton that bolsters the impeachment case against the president that from the New York Times report by days and Republican leaders indicated they had not corralled the votes they needed to prevent the former national security advisor or other witnesses from coming forward the Times notes on the final day of arguments on trump's behalf jaysekulow sought to raise doubts about Bolton's claim psycho colder uh-huh sourced allegation that he intends his inadmissible at the impeachment trial. California may be a leader in many areas but overall child wellbeing eating is not one of them. That's according to new report. Suzanne Paula reports for us. The latest children's report card from the nonprofit children now gives California -FORNIA A grade of C minus overall the only a grade in the sixteenth semiannual analysis is for kids health coverage as only three percent of California children and remain uninsured children. Now president. Ted lumper says that's because the state has moved aggressively to cover all kids including those who are undocumented and I think that's what happens when our state leaders really focused and set a goal and we get there Almost twenty percent of our kids where uninsured just a couple of decades ago. So Oh this has been real progress on that front. However the State got a grade of D. Plus for affordable childcare because only fourteen percent of low income families can get their children children interstate subsidized care? The report also notes. That child care workers make very low wages. which has led to a shortage report also found California afforded ranks among the lowest in the nation on per pupil spending for K.? Through twelve education as well as a preventative health screenings for kids covered by Medicare and Kentucky. Lawmakers are considering putting excise tax on e cigarettes sold in the Commonwealth the tax would be equal to the current tax on traditional cigarettes which is one dollar and ten cents per pack Republican Representative Jerry Miller of Louisville is the bills primary sponsor. He points out. His colleagues are struggling to come up up with the state budget amid the worst projected revenue growth in decades largely due to tax cuts. He says House Bill. Thirty two would bring in much-needed state revenue while improving Kentuckians health but this tax has the added benefit in the primary benefit of reducing use by young people pregnant mother's just simply because they are more price sensitive yesterday evening governor. Andy Bashir announced his budget plan for the next two years. According to the latest Kentucky Health Issues Poll three out of four Kentucky adults approved taxing e cigarettes and vaping products. That bill is now in the Kentucky House Appropriations and Revenue Committee. If passed it would take effect. It's only August. This is P and s Ohio. Farmers will be growing hemp this spring. It is a risky crop but some WPRO years were eager to make it work the. USDA established an interim rule last fall to regulate hemp production. In Ohio was one of the first days to have his hemp program approved by life federal regulators hemp is very labor intensive crop typically grown on five acres or less Julie Durant with the Ohio. Hemp Farmers Cooperative Explains Farmers also face a somewhat murky regulatory environment and she doesn't think hemp will make much profit at the start as a brand new industry has been growing plant for more than four years anywhere in the US so to say that we can just start out and be so strict on these regulations and have to comply with all of these. I just really warn. This is a risky business. Taya nears that are trying to make this work. The rules for help in Ohio are still being written and could be finalized by state. Legislators in the coming weeks leaks growing and processing licenses could be available in March just ahead of planting season me. Wally public comment period on the USDA's in rural and today Mary Sherman reporting this story was produced with original reporting from Maria mcguiness at Kent State a public comment period on the USDA's original and today the twenty twenty cents is kicks off at about two months lot maligned for states like Missouri Children under eighteen. A cow roughly twenty two percent set of all missourians directive says its operations. John Shackle says if children are missed in two thousand twenty tally. The state will miss out on crucial federal dollars. We don't want people people forget. That one's counting our children mean education childcare roads bridges infrastructure for the next ten years. And we just don't want Missouri's children look into less doubted that national picture. They should wide nearly five percent of kids under age. Five were not counted in the license. Finally are Mike. Bowen reports at some Minnesota Lakes invasive species are limiting the growth of a popular Fish University of Minnesota researchers say the culprits are Zebra mussels and spiny water flea. Ah The researchers found in lakes where their present they can reduce the grow size of Walleye between twelve and fourteen percent the species takeaways zoo plankton. A food source. For the a fish Geoff Forrester. Who has the group Minnesota lakes and rivers advocates says? The findings should spur stronger action by the state to prevent the spread of these species. What we've we've been doing this kind of emphasis on educational personal responsibility? That's not getting it done. I think it's slow the spread but it certainly hasn't stopped opt forester. Says he'd like to see the state. Adopt more stringent boat inspection policies. Such as making it a requirement for people getting an operator's licence the DNR has four four strong limits for anglers. 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Seven zero two three one twelve seventeen CODA team get real talka- thanks for joining us on this Wednesday edition of Classic Radio Theatre here on your favorite station. CBS wanted Raymond Birdie continuing the role of captain captained. Quins in Fort Laramie but the road load of doing not only a half hour radio show even transcribed and being able to do a a one hour weekly. Television program was just too much for bird handle so he a passed on continuing past. One season at for Laramie was on air from January twenty nine nineteen fifty-six sixty four years ago for Clara. The and the Laura Laremy starring Raymond Bird Captain Liquids especially transcribed tales of the dark and tragic round of the wild frontier. The saga of fighting being men who wrote the Rim of Empire and the dramatic story of League Wins Kaptan of cavalry. This mild non saddled. This mouth non-satellite. I don't pin grave water. You there all right you want bit that map for grazing this time. Here's how we'll do it. It's about time we could make camp here but ratcheting there's War Yeah Jeff. We could go hunting and fishing to vickers. Maybe bake some bread. If you don't like the army widened Stan. Louisville starving starving there to Louisville. I didn't have no Indians Apple. Scalp you freight engines. I'm going to tell you what I wanna get Indian what you talk about Barack. I'm GonNa get me Indian. I said I gotTA GET WHY and I won't be scared. The more you give an Indian. I me I'd rather stay. They scared the tobacco here but by it easy on it. It's all there is a payday. The army's got two thirds of my pay for the next three years. Well at fifty cents a day that don't amount to set your whole lot boat right right. Sure think funny vickers at least jade in stock. You ought to be grateful for that. I should a reason I in the stockade is because Kevin Quincy needs me out here be company supposed to have eighty three privates full strength. I swear we're down to sixty. We are. Yeah that's what I'm saying so Kappa Quince. Needs me worse than I need him. Where'd he go anyway? You make a fine scout. You don't even see we own company. Commander rode off to paint on. My bed is where he goes what. You're here dumb trooper. Somebody says sit down you sit outside in his standup. You stand up so Mrs Hughes Your Home you start taking off your shoes. And you're getting riled again getting Quinns road up to that in the lower. They're looking for lieutenant in savage patrol. Not Don't seem come back five minutes ago. He's walking down the line behind you writing up on Tired Command in a company that's got stockade soldiers like you'd make anybody tired boot right. You Watch your mouth all can't take. He can ribbon captain he liked. He Open Air Boot right. Fine Kevin I need a good ride complaints in Notre Russia. Not at all. I like out here. You'd better leg. It sure beats sitting around the stockade in your in this dark age. You just sit around boat ride Lucia released. I didn't riding a horse out after wild Indians with a understrength troop. You don't fool me. You'll never make garrison soldier. That's why I'm proud. When we return to Fort Laramie you go back into the stuck aid? You know that I always said I like the Army Catholic in the science reporting Mr Savage also. We wrote over there where the smoke wise and it. It was a homestead cabin fired by the did they leave anybody Mr signboards man. Still Alive Sir. Corporate mercy's with him but the woman on the little girl led the man's e. Nothing you've got no tongue. Take Judge Mr Savage coursing. All right over there. Yes captain technically this Henry rival Mr Cyber latest. It is model. The Indians have gotten our hands on guns like that way. We're in bad trouble. It was he corporate bedser. They burned him some too but he's still conscious. Sure slow way today. Two hundred miles else. To Fort Laramie Kevin Live that long surgeon give me revolving you and go back. I'll catch up with you. Yes the move out mostly. I think we'll go after them. Su I'm a first siding. Not a cabin. I know but you quince. Run this company captain. Queens do you mercer and he runs this company for sure. All Right Kevin. Everything's alright Eh. You shut up and keep riding the hard nosed. Oh Scott yes when we get back and see that those graves can yes. Forget to pick up your revolver at homestead. It doesn't need it anymore. GWYNN's reporting midget sit down and Kevin Breath. I know you're mad because I ordered you back from vacation those last week. Leave but you didn't see what they did to that homestead family. I've I've seen their work before it'd be more but if we don't stop them ten miles from this post there's a reservation of four thousand sue an uprising there. It'd be far more serious than your little bandits that's marauding under yellowknife. You have enough troops to patrol the reservation and still secure for Laremy here. Give me just half be company and run down Yellen. Ivan as renegades buy orders to keep a constant watching the reservation to secure Fort Laramie with all remaining true yelling. I've been supplied with rivals. Henry Forty four and all that those are repeating rifles may have reported that the Washington Capitol Rivers smugly Mugla knows rifles has got to be stopped or every brave on the reservation will join Yellowknife. Spotty patrol have received no change of orders captain. We can't afford to wait sir. Give Me Sergeant Gordon. Three men now find that gunrunner. We'll leave tonight major. He'll not leave at a direct order. It is then with the majors. Permission Mission Mr Cyber. I'm leaving the post at six o'clock this evening. I'm taking sergeant. Goes with me to return. You'll act in command to become nanny questions questions. None that would be proper. You'll learn and Mr Savage Teddy where I'm going is chief out in the reservation. Friend of mine while dog. Now he's about eighty and he's pretty smart. You're going to talk with and it's right if you'll excuse me sir. Well isn't it Birdie. Dangerous walking right into one. Also we try to reach wild dog before anything happens that gap. That's all Mr Sides. Yes Sir in a drop your gun belt. Crushes settled such pick. Kevin Revolver wouldn't do you much good Avi Soon decide they want us to where we're safer armed rights you. Let's move. I wish it had me at least booing i. I don't trust any of these devils insulate. Most of them are sleep. Four thousand Sudanese can't all asleep. We're being watched or some young buck could get his first Kufuor but spiritedness. You wouldn't want to stand in the way of a man becoming a brave would sergent Kevin. We're being Scott Museum walking only one brave putting Hanley Hanley January twenty nine thousand. 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Great International Significance for P. said if the US and Russia would sign a treaty pledging to settle the streets peacefully confirmation with the United Nations Charter non-interference in each payers and to strengthen economic cultural and scientific cooperation. Dateline Washington senator. George never kind of Georgia orgy. Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee said today the ball gain in l.. Eisenhower letter both breathe a kindly. Spirit of conciliation Senator Bridges. Republican Publican New Hampshire however described Soviet. Premier Gun ines letter proposing a friendship treaty between this country and Russia as cheap politics. Boat up to an international Steve. Steve Dateline Paris Socialist Premier designate guy. More day began calling in members of his proposed cabinet tonight and it was expected. He made complete formation of a Republican Front government by tomorrow dateline progress in foreign minister. VM multiple hinted at the closing session of the Warsaw Pact nations nations that the satellite armies both through by one hundred twenty five thousand east. Germans may be supplied with Soviet atomic weapons. Day I New York like Phoenix. Six the specter of government controls on installment mine rose from the ashes this week and somewhat startled business committee set up and took notice. Many Business Bennett considered government controls on consumer credit. A dead duck laid to rest three and a half years ago. When regulation W EXPIRE Dateline Richland? Kansas a quiet liaqat Washington public relations. Man whose wife was a former treasurer of the United States shot and killed a young Texas outlaw. Who returned for the second time to rob this little towns? Leaving citizen abandoned identified through fingerprints twenty-three-year-old Billy Dean Ross of Dallas. Kansas Bureau of Investigation said he had a record in Texas of mail theft forgery burglary and robbery eight line Haines city Florida eggs. Who robbed a safe? That Smith furniture store during the night. We'll have to duplicate made from corrugated. Cardboard did place to store was founded the back room the dial and handle knocked out five hundred dollars. I was in cash stolen the carton painted the same color as a safe. And what the dial one handle fixed dom was a good enough invitation to anyone at a passing glance in the night and though some of these top news stories as reported in the newspapers of Sunday January Twenty Ninth Nineteen fifty-six on your Radio Fort Laramie which continues news now on Classic Radio Theatre Diary. Ed well done yeah usually Zovut I. Also let's move ahead but keep an eye on him still still standing there so I told him a friend of wild dogs luckily his from the same clan white folks it is medicine Hulu then wild dogs lodge we hear such. Oh Nyas Eah I lose all my my son sit down. It's been a long time since we talk. Well dug a long time. Now you come. Because of Yellowknife Yellowknife is leading your young men into war with my people. Many cleanse among among the Sioux chief only White Fox clan is yelling at IFA two moon but the White Fox braves within yes. I cannot stop them. I remember what it was like when I was young. It was different when you were young while Doug you had a chance then but now they have no chance they have many rifled. Hey have a dog. But the white man the cavalry has thousands of rifles else in the end. The Su- cannot win. You are wise man you know this is true. Yes you're right. Yellowknife and his braves will be caught and punished. Some of them will die. But if I don't stop his supply rifles many more of fewer people will die. You want to know where rifles come from tell me where yellowknife meets the white man. Who supplied him? I'll do the rest. You'll be saving lives. Well Doug Sue lives for the sake of my people I tell you place north of here place you quality Bright Canyon Bread Kenyon. Then it's over Come back and we'll smoke. Yes if you come come back. Come back Zoom you left the post last night Kevin Lamb Garrison soldier where he knows you sell your friend wild I suppose Lee Avenue orders from Washington. This morning my orders to patrol the reservation to secure fort Laramie still stand. We're not to go after yellowknife but the importance of the Henry Rifles is recognized and where to put a stop to it. Yes Sir can you do it. I can alright take half of B company. Only yes you'll pass the head of your column through the main gates each of the post one half hour before revenue tomorrow morning rights and remember cabin quench orders are to stop that gun smuggler. Not to run down yellowknife any questions. 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Blow the Chris Right Sir. I think we've found out man MR sabotage. He'll be in that canyon up ahead Sergeant Gore's scouts in the North Rim of the Canyon. If it's clear we'll hide in those trees just below it and then we'll wait. Wait for what yeah. Well we'll catch him in the act. Mr Cyber when yellowknife comes for his rivals but captain. It's not my fault of Yellowknife gets in the way when we move in on that gun. Smugglers habits pass the word space out staggered the odd to the left. We're raising too much. Dust in eight boat ride do behave if going back to your booth. Oh He's nothing happening down there in the valley he some guns mugger just sits round and he's given what's matter camping quints. Anyway after group gets one man and we had around watching him for two days. You can't figure nothing vegas where waiting for Yellowknife you mean. We're going to fatten them Indians soon as they show up. You scared boot rat. All I need is to kill me in and I won't be scared no more. Yeah me too. Thank thank still in Iraq. It's gorgeous in the capital. We'll get down there. He singled home. And I'll kitchen now. Doing away from your post bickers couldn't couldn't see nothing where it was. I was wondering Bograd could sergeant can be shut for leaving your post at a time. Like this vickers. Yes or your risk in the life of every man in this troop. I'll get back where you belong. Hello yes Sir Gettin getting boob right wants us. Come on off into the Canyon Sir. Look they come many braves you figure get with and goes. It's hard to say yet. Maybe thirty a bunch of horses to finance to pay for the rifles. I can see more than thirty Su down there. Let's be nine to forty. There's at dirty gun running now talking with you on. I wish we had whole be company. Here yes sir boat. Red that move out about three hundred yards west of here. When you're ready? I want you to ride straight down into the canyon. Wash your in order to find out. If they're really trading for guns down there put cavalier run into any trouble. I'll have to help you out of it. That's all I understand. So let's move John. And in December two there I wanna see right the meek after Mr sabotage those Sudan. They're trading for Henry rivals. Gore's I am going to ride down and find out going alone. Yeah it should be a fight if we appeared in force might. I even look like I was trying to run yellen. I've down but they'll be killed servewell. I can't let that happen if they're attacked. We'll just have to ride in in. It'll be a rescue missions disabled. I understand and I'll get back to the troop pass away to saddle in Mount space out the sixty paces between mounts. It'll make us look full strength right. and Mr Cyber. Shoot the first man of crosses the Ridge before I give the signal as the order and then come back here any questions agents move out. It is time they'll they'll be seen any minute it. Let's get back. DOC mounted Mr Savage when we reach the cabin. Newly the troops out stuff for the gunrunner. I don't doc skirmishes talk doc. UH-HUH UH-HUH AW the white man go up there. I'd never seen him Kevin. They must be in the cabin. I'll stay with the troupe. They've chased up and get those stolen horses rounded up the euro through Mr. Come Outta there. You Ain't going to hang me come out with your hands up you'll get a trial hands on. Hey it's your choice Mr come out autre okay. You're right there. I'll take my chances suits me. Ah It's still running captain. We kill some of them. He's dead Sir right over their private boat right killing the red lion over there too. Mr Freight Seltzer. He took a bullet after he got yellowknife. I didn't go has been around. HORSES IS MR savage reform the troop take care of the wounded detail. Six men for burial. It Kevin Sir. What can I do for you? I'm all shut up. There's nothing anyone can do and then was Q.. Book I I always wanted to get Indian captain whenever figured it'd be yellowknife you did did fine. But here's something that I took off yellowknife. You keep it for and what it is. Yeah yeah sure. Do a fellow where inside gap a boat read all right. I ain't scared gooseneck. Tell them goodbye. mccaddon given quince report. And Soon I've just finished going over your report cabinet. Yes much sure and reading it whether you deliberately disobeyed orders or not. Would you care to clarify that point Major Dag. Did you ever see one of these. He's that's a scalp. Private boat ride took it off a yellowknife major so woman scalp young woman. Get rid of IT Kevin Coyne. I'm reporting to Washington that the gun smugglers has been destroyed but the attack by Yellowknife during the operation. We're forced to defend yourself. Thank you major. That's all cap- oh capital is just one more thing in regard to your recommendation for a posthumous medal for private boat ride. Yes sir. Washington might question a report that recommended an honor for one of the soldiers who actually brought on yellow knifes attack so for the good of the company. I suggest nets or major boat ride boat. read it understand. You was a real soldier. Align soldier Fort Laramie enemy is produced and directed by Norman macdonnell and stars. Raymond Burr as Lee Quince captain of cavalry with Vic Perrin as sergeant. Gore's the script was specially Ashley Written for Fort Laramie by John Esten with Zahn Patterns by Bill James and Ray Kemper musical supervision by Emerald Marino featured in the cast. Were Harry Bartell. Oh Bob Sweeney Sam Edwards Jack Malls Jan Arvin Joel Cranston and Lukman they the gun. Bunny ten this mess. The next week another transcribe story. The of the northwest runs. Here and the troopers who fought under League wins captain of Cavalry in sixty four years ago. Raymond Burr Fort Laramie on Classic Radio Theatre. 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Hemp is very labor intensive crop typically grown on five acres or less Julie Durand with the Ohio. Hemp Farmers Cooperative Explains Farmers also face as somewhat murky regulatory environment and she doesn't think hemp will make much profit at the start. It's a brand new. You industry has been growing plants for more than four years anywhere in the US so to say that we can just start out and be so strict on his regulations and have to comply with all of these. I just really warn. This is a risky business. Where the Taya Mirror that are trying to make this work? The rules for help in Ohio are still being written and could be finalized finalized by state. Legislators in the coming weeks growing and processing licenses could be available in March just ahead of planting season me. Wally public comment period on the USDA's Sta's interim rule and today. Mary Sherman reporting. 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Bowen reports Minnesota Lakes invasive species are limiting the growth of a popular Fish University of Minnesota researchers say the culprits are Zebra Zebra mussels and spiny wonderfully the researchers found in lakes where their present they can reduce the size of wall by between twelve and fourteen percent the species takeaway zoo plankton a food source for the fish Geoff Forrester who heads the group Minnesota lakes and rivers advocates says the findings should spur stronger action by the state to prevent about the spread of these species. What we've been doing this kind of emphasis on educational and personal responsibility? That's not getting it done. I think it's slow spread but it certainly hasn't stopped it fo