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"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO
"One with the call that crash taken out chase Elliott and mother nature decided to take out the race postponed the rest of it with twenty laps to go Denny Hamlin came out on top for Hamlin it's his second victory of the season as for Elian Busch up furious Elliott waited for bush on the apron of the track and flipped him off as he drove by now you gotta love that you're not running you're not racing that's what I say so there you go some some NASCAR action catch it NASCAR fever catch it first time since again thirty and thirty six years that they ran on Wednesday last time around on a Wednesday was a fourth of July so it was a holiday so that's how long it's been so there you go only game in town why not baseball as the NBA or basketball will do basketball as the NBA continues to work through multiple return to play scenarios couple people with knowledge of the situation they always have their nose in everybody's business don't think these people with knowledge of the situation anyway they say Orlando Las Vegas and Houston remain under consideration as cities that could host the regular season and playoff games that remain while the Timberwolves re opening a practice practice facility for voluntary sessions for players starting today president of basketball operations Gerson Rosi's on the walls re opening they'll be some short workouts as we get started here just an opportunity for guys to be in a safe environment where they can get some work in get the routine and are we don't know what the real over the long road back looks like but want to make sure that our guys day by day or two in the most they can only one coach and one player will be allowed on the court at Mayo Clinic square at any one time we required to stay twelve feet apart as we like to say from Arrested Development no touching workouts will be limited to forty five minutes in areas beyond the court will remain closed the other big news from the NBA off the court continues to be the show that just won't go away the last dance the documentary they got huge ratings on ESPN dealing with Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls back in the day if this morning's edition of more lake Henry talk about why former bulls GM Jerry Krause is one of the biggest villains of the show Jerry Krause might have been a pretty good general manager in putting teams together well man that's a tough one right there like I don't know how you live that would how do you formulate that sentence the Phil Jackson you don't kill bill Jackson who's one U. five championships going into the final season all of him when you examine chip that it doesn't matter what you do you can go eighty two one L. you're done does it matter how many games you win this year and if you win the whole thing you're you're done that is going to be the most ridiculous statement in the history of sports you got Michael Jordan on your dancing Hey Michael Jordan's already told you if there's no feel there's no M. J. that's the end of the conversation who in the history of the game is breaking up all three times the championship team with the greatest player to ever play the sport well you know that's when you break it up when you lose not win Michael Jordan is the greatest player that's ever played the game of basketball and you basically forced him into retirement there's no way in the world that Jerry Krause can sit there and you know how this played out right that next season with a half a season you tell me that a well rested Michael Jordan and all the other guys could've pulled off one another championship come on you know who didn't own the team Jerry Krause you know who did Jerry Reinsdorf you have a bigger villain is the Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf because at the end of the day Jerry Reinsdorf Chris said sit down Jerry Krause they didn't if you want to save money anyway we love we love Henry lake we love are more like in the morning and he'll be out tonight starting at nine here on C. seal by the way the NC double a division one councils voted to lift the moratorium on voluntary workouts by football and basketball players effective on.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Thousand Chris I'm David Caplan three one two three three two three seven seven six have some fun over some of his stories and then Horace grant just awesome awesome replace some of that in a little bit as well and I will talk to Bob Costas at eleven thirty three one two three three two three seven seven six funny that C. V. differences on social media some people absolutely believe Horace grant and I told you the other guys I did the show with yesterday for bad online those guys all had some they went back at Michael and how the documentary portrays of them and how it portrays him so a lot of interesting stuff from that and then horse came out here today and I was very critical of Michael very and it's interesting to now that we've got that the benefit of the five weeks ten episodes all in the rear view mirror how many guys who either warn included or didn't like how they were perceived or didn't like how somebody there close to like Horace did like how Scotty was proceed how upset they are and I was told yesterday Scott is furious furious how he was perceived he said the someone I know waiting on the twenty first best player but I'm selfish I'm a bomb and then bill Cartwright when they question was was got a selfish she said who left and went to play baseball that was bill Cartwright who's your co captain who's one of the truly great guys you ever deal with so there was more than a little dysfunction going on in that organization three one two three three two three seven seven six is our phone number on a replace up from horse again if you missed it I asked horse were you the source directly for your source your source for the Jordan rules for author Sam Smith which was a best seller it is a a downright outright completely locked lad LifeLock and as I stated if you have a word with me let me let me let's talk about it or we can sell it another way four year deal he goes out and put the light out there that will do for them and I have always been great he still wakes but thanks to the of the locker room I would never put anything personal out there the mere fact that Sam Smith well the investigative reporter that he had to have two sources to to to to write a book I get Wildwood NJ just point me out okay right there I mean there is only a bridesmaid I'm telling you the only drug that I think he proved that doing this so called documentary when if you don't say something if you say something about him it's going to cut you off if he's going to try to restore your character I mean you know Tom Barclay they've been crippled twenty thirty years he said something about Michael's management with the Charlotte bobcats goes along with and then there will be there tomorrow my friend mark my point is that he called if there are legitimate well you will after thirty or thirty five years he brings up he's looking here wanted to wanted to make room that's one of the major moments in cold can lead and women my point is why why the hell did he want to bring that up what what they got to do with anything I mean if you if you want to call them by the minute after they are made right there wow that's a damn snitch right there when I did the interview yesterday with those four guys to get it was cart right Hodges Horace and Ron Harper here's how I ended the interview for this bad online symposium that I did with them guys Michael Jordan's turn sixty five you get an invitation to go to his birthday party would you go how many of the people show up or you've got to go where what home where my does she keep eight all right I'm not even opening the damage well you're going what is worst okay where's the party at Laura had a beautiful mansion okay there is what are you going your guide to drink it out of food well I was I was smoking a cigar yeah there you go so there's the four of them Hodges great cart right and Harper when I asked them that question yesterday there's just there was so much much dysfunction that went on with that team and it's amazing they were able to go six and in championships and beat that good and overcome that kind of dysfunction a lot of it caused by Jerry Krause his relationship with his hand picked head coach Phil Jackson like all of it blended together it just did and it's sad that that's how it was but it was like that through all the nineties it was don't make a right don't mean crosses right and they're wrong or they're right across the state all contributed to it that's the sad thing you would thank you put together the greatest player with the greatest team in NBA history and you do nothing but win you never lose never you got to six finals you never lose and everybody can't get along everybody can't get along and I'm just telling you those four guys for the hour I did that yesterday I'm just telling you it's not as close and as lovey dovey with M. J. as people want to believe it just was not five three one two three three two three seven seven six is our phone number if you've got a comment question thought of what you just heard from Horace grant Danny are you surprised to see the level of dysfunction and again I am not blaming one person everyone contributed to it Jerry Krause should have been kept in line no doubt about it are you surprised when a team does nothing but win that they can all get along more harmoniously I mean this is twenty two years later I don't necessarily consider this dysfunction real dysfunction but it was during the nineties listen I watched the last dance every second of it it seemed that they got along well they they they hugged each other they applaud each other they were a team when the team needed to be a team on the court they were a team in practice they came together for one goal and that was to win championships right now Horace grant can hear his sour grapes and bill Kerr right can make jokes that he can't get to Florida and Ron Harper could say he drank Michael Jordan's wine and smoking cigars and Craig Hodges could be bitter that he wasn't included in the documentary that's fine there's one man Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time you're not gonna win a pissing match with him you're just not and it does say that there was dysfunction back then it seemed that the dysfunction was with the management they had a good us versus them mentality also on the court first them in the in the front office whatever happens now whatever they say now is fine they're all voicing their opinion and that's great the reason they're able to do that on your TV show this radio show is because of the last dance and Michael Jordan put their names in prominence right now I don't think there was really that kind of discord they won championships everyone should be grateful for each other we should be grateful for them they should be grateful for Michael don't disagree with anything you said except one there was that kind of discord that's fine but you can't like what does it matter I'm just surprised that you can't like honestly who cares they did that Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf broke up the greatest rock greatest dynasty of all time that's the discord that's that's what upsets me as a fan I don't really care floors grant got to eat on the plane or not I don't care if Fred Hodges wanted more shots or not I don't care about any of that they won championships they won championships because the greatest player in the world drove them to do it he said in the documentary that I give everything I have to win and if you don't like it I'm sorry if you want to play that way that did it to it literally doesn't matter right now if you told me that they could have won eight championships but because they didn't get along they didn't I would be upset if they lost in the NBA finals because Michael was being a bully pull to the rest of the guys on the team I would be upset but that's not the case they went to the final six times they won it six times and never played a game seven so I don't care how bitter they are at Michael they got the results that everybody wanted yeah I just find it sad that not just the bull's eye who can put it your name artist Mike and the Mad Dog pick any of these great do all those are teams it always ends badly let me chat with us it always ends badly captain net nothing lasts forever except great marriages right it like god willing you and Mandy are merry till the day you die and then you can decide about eternity after that but for the most part everything great comes to an end the Beatles came to an end the bulls dynasty came to an end like you said Mike and the Mad Dog came to an end nothing lasts forever it's just the way it is and I listen to be honest if they're upset Michael they're mad at Michael they've got rings on their fingers thanks to Michael Michael proved he could win a championship without Horace Michael proved you could win a championship without car right Michael proved he can win championships without Ron Harper Michael certainly proved he could win championships without Craig Hodges did any of them would any championships without him no her poorly I know what he said he was in a retirement contract on the LA Lakers same with horse you know when you look after your question that Danny was are you surprised is that how we started this are you surprised at this no I'm just surprised not just this team I'm saying in life like anytime you like amazing success it just ends badly well you should be surprising is special when you're talking about the NBA world because we just saw in recent history the Golden State Warriors broke up Kevin Durant left what took place all last season the recent history in the league was that the warriors were one of the best teams ever but Durant's injury mon couldn't get along the rants didn't like the fact that everyone loves Steph curry the amount of admiration everyone has stores that carry a bother directly this is what happens in the NBA go to the early two thousands just after the Jordan here's what took place with Kobe and Shaq check one out it was a problem right they can get one like this is how it works it it doesn't end to buy them just all saying yeah we're happy with the way things went it's tough it's really tough to win an NBA championship that's just what it is yeah it's just sad that not just sports in life for you get a bunch of success and all of a sudden it's we can't get along three one two three three two three seven seven six more of your calls Bob Costas eleven thirty be right back capping company on ESPN one thousand Chicago's home for sports thank.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Dot com it Jerry Krause is still getting the most votes I phrase it this way this is this Paul I'm sure it's been done twenty years ago who do you blame for the end of the bulls dynasty and I gave you four options let me know if you guys think there could have been another I gave for options it was Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf fill Jackson or father time those are the four that I get that I would have chosen the owner because ultimately he has he has final say military yeah I mean Jerry Krause again I didn't look at this is at the very end they could have salvaged there was so much damage John through the course and you've highlighted and documented it whether it was Tim Floyd Seattle or eighty two unknown Phil still not coming back or you know Jerry screaming the chant you know organizations win championships that that foundation had been laid significantly earlier than that final season right but all of that could have been circumvented even more so now I think Jerry Reinsdorf has taken this opportunity through this documentary docu series to try and give you a different outlook or different perspective on that but at the end of the day he had final say right like sherry Rogers said I called Phil you don't want to come right exactly you know what they used to tell me about getting a lot of retirement well load up the plane bring Michael tell Michael Michael we're bringing you back we're going to do everything we can to get fell back let's go we're going to Montana we're not gonna store we're not accepting no for an answer I mean there are many different ways than saying Hey I call the media want to come back to what you want me to DO well in Jerry kept saying to and I've read several different articles where he kept referencing that it was Phil had determined it was time the infill maybe would have not determined that that was the time had he not had such a contentious relationship right with Jerry Krause over the course of you know several years it built to the point where it was time for Phil but you could have circumvented that if you would handle the relationship different I read another piece where I guess at the end Phil sat down with Jerry at sometime when they were you know the the Lakers were in Arizona and he told Jerry Reinsdorf that he wanted to smooth things over with Jerry Krause and let bygones be bygones and I believe Jerry Reinsdorf reach out to cross according to this article and Jerry Krause said now yeah that mean member Jerry Krause didn't go to Michael in this hall of fame induction because quote he was boycotting for tex winter now I get your stance on tax winner but this is the guy who's the only guy you draft you keep preaching organizations win championships and now you're saying you're not going because of the to end like that those are all terrible walks in and stuff that yes maybe he got a raw deal in the big picture but he also he could have done so much more than them it took to make this story easier on himself and he always chose to step in the pope three one two three three two three seven seven six we'll take all of your phone calls chasing here joins us at three o'clock listening one silver yes P..
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on The NBA Show
"Be Winter on your Tex Winter Your Phil Jackson. I think that when when they re write our story that's going to be our sorry Shawn Fantasy. What's up man curse? We all know that I'm pippen and Jordan. Let's let's not be ridiculous here and I've got it's early on Monday morning and I've got some backaches and your carry me through this finals game. Show we're GONNA talk about the last dance last two episodes and we're GonNa talk about the documentary itself because I think obviously the last couple of weeks tons of people including the two of us have talked about Jordan. We've talked about what Jordan. Meta we talked about what Jordan was like to watch in the nineties. And we've watched it unfold as it does as there's almost everything in two thousand twenty. We we watched Jordan become a football. That people kind of US going back and forth to argue over all sorts of hot button issues. But I kinda wanted to talk to you at the top about the idea of of last dance as a documentary now. We've we've done the disclosures before you've talked about working with Jason in the past in the rarest got connections with Jason. I think we're both really big fans of this of this movie but I want to ask you like at the end when you finished last dance. Were you left? Satisfied as a as a viewer. Did you find it buying experience easily? A satisfying experience Probably even more so than I expected I loved just being with I think so many people around the country who care about sports and even those who don't care about sports had something to look forward to every Sunday night that gave them an astrologer hit and I think that's an interesting way to approach this conversation. Because there's been. I don't WanNa say controversy but an ongoing conversation about whether or not a nostalgia hit equates to journalism and I don't think that this necessarily was a pure act of journalism but I also don't think that it was puppet tearing either. I don't think that somebody you know. Put their hand up Jason Harris back and forced him to make a certain kind of film. I think it's a fascinating and very modern hybrid of where access documentary. Journalism is right now and it was immensely fun to watch and there were a couple of reasons for that one. Obviously we're dealing with archival footage from the ninety seven ninety eight season that most people have never seen before and two were dealing with archival footage that we've seen over and over and over again and I never tire of watching which is the history of the NBA basically from nineteen eighty four through nineteen ninety eight which is for you and I is a glory period and we get to do it with through the Lens of a person that we virtually never hear from in this candid and acidic and still indignant way in Michael Jordan. So I personally I loved it I I you know you and I have both seen one through eight many weeks ago and nine and ten were fresh for us so it'll be interesting to kind of impact but what about you I mean. Did you feel like this was beyond entertaining? Was Worthy of something beyond what? Bill has called the documental. Yeah I felt like it. Basically replicated the sensation of watching sports. I felt as invested even though I knew the ending as invested with the sort of details of of plays like how Reggie Miller exploded through Jordan's chest or how John Stockton or Steve. Kerr would find open space or watching. Scotty PIPPIN CLEARLY LABORING UP THE COURT AGAINST UTAH. After he had kind of done his back in and a lot of that stuff really was was a bomb for me. And I'll always have a really fun place in my heart for this documentary because of that. I do think it was really fascinating too because it took me back to a time in my life when I did not actually think about sports entertainment. I didn't really think about whether or not. I liked players. You know they were either better than the guys I liked or worse than the guys I liked and I also didn't feel like I had a ton of choice about who I liked and part of that was formed by Jordan. Part of that relationship to sports was formed by this guy. Who's just like fuck? You abstained Chicago. I'm coming back and taking what's mine. You guys think you're better than me. I will crush you and that actually was how I thought. Sports worked for very long time. That's the story that the movie tells like the film is book ended by this quote Jordan gives after he's drafted re says. I WanNa make the Chicago Bulls like the Boston. Celtics like the Los Angeles Lakers. I WanNa give the city and this team that same identity which feel so foreign now that that feels like it happened in a toll key novel you know like the fact that you know player empowerment and the the ability for players to move from team to team and the fact that the league in many ways is a player league and not a team league just it does feel. It reminds me of watching fifties and sixties. Nfl films about players in black and white. That almost felt as if they're operating in different sport. Yeah we're then they were like yeah. I broke my nose four times in that game. And you're just like okay. You know I wanNA talk a little bit about the end and I think that this is Kinda doubles as a conversation about Jordan. But I want to talk a little bit about foils and villains because Jordan's villain and foil at the end of his career with Chicago Wild. You could make the argument that it's Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf from the people who are trying to break up this dynasty or don't WanNa pay for this dynasty what we get on the court is the Utah Jazz and I remember while I think. This documentary taught me that those series is a lot more closer than I remembered. There was a feeling that I had a lot watching Jordan during those days. That you've kind of toying with people the idea of saying he's got. This is something. That's very hard to say now. I remember thinking that about Marian Rivera. I remember thinking about about like Tiger Woods and I remember thing about Michael Jordan Marian Rivera eventually gettable by for a long time was just like Verizon you can turn game off watching Jordan against Utah. I don't remember thinking man. Utah's really. They've got their number. This could happen and I wonder whether or not that contributes in in terms of historian graffiti like in my mind the BBC that lasts commits is making. That series seemed closer than ones. I don't know if I'm remembering that wrong. Well I mean they do push it to six games in in that final season. And IT'S INTERESTING. I think if people had grown grown bored of the Spurs mechanistic competent highly structured style of play in the Os in twenty tens like. Let me tell you the jazz were held terms of this like monochromatic indestructible style of basketball. Seeing those highlights. Last night obviously took me back to a time. I was watching so much basketball. Probably more than watch now in in that exact period sixteen years old when that series was happening and the NBA was a huge part of my of my personal life in a very weird way. And I watched a lot of UTAH. Jazz game something. I just wouldn't do now the same way I wouldn't. I didn't watch a lot of spurs games in the two thousand ten and that was obviously just an extraordinary once in a lifetime team. I mean to top twenty five top thirty guys in NBA history. Were on that team. You know to me. It wasn't shocking to remember how close it was because of how skilled. I thought that team was the secondary and tertiary players on that team. Were Really Great Jeff. Hornacek was on that team. That was a really really special team and I think in like so. Many teams like the Knicks from that era like the Sun's from that era like the Sonics from that era like the Pacers from that era as we saw last night if any of those teams if there were nobles if any of those teams had would have had a chance to rise and become the dominant team of that era. That's part of the reason why it's part of the case for MJ. As the greatest player of all time is there's just a sense that the competition was so much stronger from nineteen ninety. Three one thousand nine hundred and the NBA than it has been in the last ten years even still. I completely understand what you're saying by the time we got through five MBA championships. It didn't seem very dramatic and in fact it felt like if Mj the Bulls didn't win it would have been a massive let down because of all of the conversation on the last dance. And because of the way that their position their season was positioned. So it's it's a paradox in a way if they had lost or had gone to seven games and squeaked it out it would have been like it's actually was kind of disappointing season for the pulse which is strange to say but also. I. I don't WanNa underestimate just how punishing it was to watch. Stockton Malone night after night after night after night. Because they were they were a machine and it's a testament to those both teams that they beat them twice and the second time in their own building. Which as I recall was just the most incredible homecourt advantage barring the Bulls in the NBA. Yeah I mean Reggie Miller calls going back to Chicago a death sentence if you go back to Chicago three one. He's like it's a death sentence. Reggie Miller by the way. I thought fantastic in this documentary. Excellent Great Great Narrator. He can be such a cornball sometimes on on doing color commentary during Games. I wish I we got this Reggie Miller. I know obviously like he gets the benefit of hindsight and it's talking about himself but I thought he was so funny and so candid and also still. Kinda like I'm pretty good. You know what I mean like I get during this number. Somebody follow on twitter named Mike Beach. Last night was tweeting. I think this was the dude who is like when you look at Reggie Miller's numbers that it's just like fourteen point seven points a game but then just hit like only the biggest shots in the world and was just an absolute like he was just an assassin at the end of games. You don't have to tell me as an experiment. Nobody tortured me. More than Reggie Miller Miller Torture Knicks fans more than Michael Jordan. I think Michael Jordan and there was an air of magisterial grace allegations as it was something handed down from God Reggie Miller was as if Satan came from below I mean he he. He absolutely tortured people and you're right though the way that he talked about. Mj and those bulls teams is very similar. To the way that a lot of the superstars who were interviewed in present day talked about him in this film which is with adulation and admiration and completely uncomplicated. Acceptance of the fact that he was the greatest. You know if you listened to Barclay talk if you watch stockton last night in the episode. You sensed that there was no debate. You know there was no arrogance or anger. There was it was almost like we. Even though we all lost we were grateful to have been part of this period of time in bed basketball history which is just so unusual and and when we get whatever. Lebron's the last dance is twenty years from now. I'll be very curious to see if his contemporaries speak about him in the same way. I can't imagine Chris Paul or James Harden or Russell Westbrook or durant reflecting on Lebron quite the same way I could be wrong but it's so unusual and you're right Reggie Miller identifying. Mj Is Black. Jesus saying I only called him black. Jeez or Jordan Jordan from that period on was was fascinating..
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"The documentary or did you DVR the documentary last night episode seven eight were so much fun yet another two great episodes of the last dance documentary on ESPN last night and I really enjoyed the story telling and the back stories that we have received on these shows Michael Jordan as you well know is a supreme competitor and a one percenter in every sense of the term one percenter meaning that he is one of the very few that you've seen in sports with that ruthless aggression that ability to surpass others as far as wanting to win we see a lot of champions you are champions in this city so much happens all across the country primul champions team teams have won championships but you can always tell the difference between a good player a great player and then someone that's above the clouds and Michael Jordan was that guy for those that are millennials are seeing a lot of this action for the first time the guy we wonder wow this is that's just some flimsy not HD film that we're seeing of someone from the nineteen forties or fifties or someone that wasn't really on the landscape and really didn't capture the imagination of fans across the country around the world no this is real it's a real thing we see Michael Jordan a supreme competitor eighty one percent in every sense of the term you know you'd be hard pressed to find someone so driven to win there when he describes winning he's brought to tears some can't relate to wanting to win so badly as an adult that you become emotional but that is something who he was and he got this tells you how he was at a completely different level as a player and watching the last dance documentary over the last few weeks the documentary ricochets in so many different directions and angles but the one takeaway is that Jordan found any age he could to win I wonder how the modern day ball player looks at this documentary when I'm watching this every Sunday night now and I'm sitting in the hood cable I'm watching the big screen this documentary and really enjoying what I'm seeing here because there's some nostalgia there but there's also a lot of connections to overseeing your twenty twenty in that I wonder what the modern athlete thinks of when they see this level of commitment this level of wanting to win at all costs no everyone isn't home their teammates whole war constantly badgering their teammates to get the most out of them but this is Michael Jordan's way and there was success that came from that six titles in eight years that's a success that came from that M. you just don't just lay around and complain and complain to the medium a complaint and and feel like all the world's against me and get on Instagram and put my Angelou quotes out there talking about your feelings but if if the commitment comes from being in the gym the commitment comes from wanting to get better at your craft no you're at the top but yet you want to compete so badly give anyone who wants to take you on but you'll find the littlest things were the biggest things to be able to get better can you tell me the last dance brought to you by course light with Jonathan hood under the hood on the ESPN one thousand in the U. S. B. in Chicago out in Europe especially with today's sports talk that measures rings and how many you want and how many lost Jordan wins that euro of basketball and why many deem him as the very best what do you like him or not many teams have the run the bulls run was to dominate the nineteen nineties and John was a big part of that you see many jobs or you see many crying means when it comes to Michael Jordan but his thing I'm looking at is I'm not concerned about do you have some concern about crime means in Jordan I see something that more than likely I'll never see again in this city with the bulls and that's championships and success at all costs wants to further winning with drama around the team on a daily basis are you seeing this like I'm saying this me every hour you were seeing drama around the team now as someone that was watching the bulls or being around the bulls are covering the from time to time during this time you know I'm Dickens toward the last three peaks I would probably run the bulls a little bit more as someone that would get a credential the around the locker room but I wasn't a beat reporter I was just stayed on air producer just kind of looking a book Aston also just trying to get a Bible what's going on for shows I was doing in that era in it the amount of drama and question marks about this team was just amazing question marks like what's up with the bulls after they win this six championship because it was almost afraid to complete that the bulls are gonna get in this position to win a championship and I think it will really happen Jerry Krause's saying all these things now but is it really going to be a change you can you see a team without Phil Jackson city without Michael Jordan and I think became more and more real as the weeks went on in this world tell the story in episodes nine and ten that the championships how there was a lack of value of championships for Jerry Krause toward the end because he felt that he can win a championship with anyone because he believed that championships are won by organizations more so than players and every time that you hear a sound bite every time we hear from players every time we hear from writers and those around the team that becomes a louder sentiment more so than anything else so while the modern era people on social media and younger fans look at Jordan when he was crying at this hall of fame speech in and trying to make a give side of what he's doing now well this documentary doesn't matter but the bottom line is that throughout all that he went through the death of his father leaving the game to go play baseball coming back to play basketball the championships in success is the number one thing now you can go in the week if you like I can try to find things that are unsavory and things that you can latch on to to be able to stones of Michael but I want you to be able stand that there was a lot that Jordan had to go through in the bold to go through to be able to sustain their success winning with the drama around the to a daily basis to Rodman antics the Pippen antics which we'll get to a little later on the front office Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf all those issues it was always something with this bulls team let's go back in time and here from a little bit of the documentary Michael Jordan there's a number of people are asking in episode seven is Michael Jordan a nice guy was he a nice guy.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on The Lowe Post
"There was a part of me that felt and again I was there I was covering it. That Rodman was getting a people. Were acting like this was now. Rodman's team no one really knew what they were talking about. But I don't mean to say people thought Rodman's now the better player than Jordan and whatever senior basketball game thought that but people were so fascinated by him and loved him in this. Those always a part of the connor rubbed me the wrong way because I just found him to be such an attention seeking A person like like like she cared much more about being famous and promoting himself then he cared about winning. Anybody set now. It doesn't mean he wasn't a great player absolutely a great player. And you've seen pretty good stuff that episode three. I think it was which everyone was where they really talk a lot about smart he was he was a tremendous player. I take nothing away from him but boy did he sucked the air out of a room and and it was all about dense and I think something about that has always kind of rubbed me the wrong way which is why. I've always wanted to stick up for harassed grant who was a great a great player. Be a great teammate. Who who felt as though he didn't get nearly enough attention and credit for what they were achieving but didn't behave himself away dentist or to try and get all of that attention and I think there's always been a part of me that is like that better but you know I'd forgotten the one that the one I forgot. Really Harper Harper is an incredibly important part of that second team. Because there's no way to compare what John Paxson. Bj Armstrong did to what Ron Harper was able to do. If you want to say Paxon incur kind of a each other out. As just outstanding outside shooters occur as a better fewer shooter than Paxson was taxing. It a bunch of very big shots particularly in the first championship series and the third one. He makes the famous one to beat Phoenix. But I'd forgotten about Harper Harper Harper Harper presence. Kind of skews. This a little bit. You're making me rethink this. I'm I stand on my on my pick because I refuse not to based upon my personal feelings but you're kind of talking me out of it. Well I think I think I think ninety two probably wins in Opole if you pulled like a thousand people who around the NBA? Then I think the ninety two team probably wins also in this theoretical game if it's one game for all the marbles or whatever you just play all your best players forty six minutes so you're stacy kings and your Scott William although Scott Williams talk about a guy. I'm rewatching always all games. That dude was constantly doing helpful stuff you might do. I see why Phil liked him. He's just coming into games. Like there's offense rebound here put back here. A little short jumper. He was in the right place doing the right stuff all the time. So I think ninety two probably wins in a poll just for the reason of forty five minutes of other universe Jordan and forty five minutes. Prime Athletic Pippen is just. It's it's something you can't do anything with. I just ninety six to me. The seventy two wins matters the fact that they the seventy two wins matters the fact that they destroyed everyone in the playoffs even if it was a soft playoff run until the Sonics won the two meaningless games not it's meaningless a strong. I apologize to the people. But you're right. There's once it's three. Oh No one. In the universe six is is a series anymore And I just the coup coached by the way Ku coach. Better be in this documentary as something other than like dude. Who got picked on in the Olympics because coach was a six man of the year? Michael Scottie both grew to love him and I just think his playmaking shooting size element is something that original team didn't have like the guys coming off the bench for that ninety. Two Team are essentially all big guys and another guard and another little guard. It's just all a bunch of losers. They didn't have anyone like coach. So I'm like I. Because of the seventy two and the versatility. I might lean a little ninety six but I bet ninety two wins an appeal and about Rodman. The ninety seven team that went sixty nine and thirteen fifteen and four in the playoffs. They beat a fifty six. Win Hawks team a sixty one win. Heat team and sixty four win. Utah team who are second fourth and fifth in net rating in the NBA. That you're that is a murderer's row. But the primary argument against them. If there is one is that Rodman checked out in the ninety seven plant was not nearly the same guys. He wasn't ninety six ninety eight but that was sixty nine thirteen. That's one L. of team. Which was the year that Robyn? I'm doing all of this. I thought my head which was the year that Rodman kicked cameraman in in the Ding and wound up being suspended for a significant period of time. Not The famous not the trip to Vegas but but he got suspended for a significant stretch of time she he was. He was always a person who is right now. That was that one. I think. That's that's the point. I was going to feel like that might have sort of carried over into that because it was. If you remember the play is one of these camera guys who were literally on the court shooting the game in his. He's in a very very vulnerable position. He's like squatted down his legs or apart and Rodman sort of falls into him and may have slight. You know it might have heard a little bit. The certainly no one else does fall and he just kicked him right in a crowded area and he got suspended Fordham Significantly deserved it. Rodman was just. He was a he was a pain in the neck. I've found it to be a pain in the neck and that actually brings me to something else. I wanted to talk about with you briefly. I gave some thought its Zack. Wants to be on the PODCAST. What can I tell him? I have come if there's one thing I've come to believe watching the last dance. It is that Phil Jackson is under appreciated as a coach Phil Jackson. I can tell you was under appreciated. Then fill people in town to not a show. I work for the All sports radio station. We were just take calls all day long talking about the balls. That was basically five months of programming three years in a row. Nonstop calls calls calls called. Phil would not come on station. Because he felt that he was constantly being disrespected. That people were constantly callers and the hosts were constantly disrespected him. Basically what the suggestion that the Bulls were a product of Michael Jordan's greatness and that anyone could roll the ball out there that they had thrown Doug Collins out the door right when he would have gotten them there anyway and Doug was figuring town that a lot of people liked and And that they fill got this job and Phil was just lucky to be in the right place at the right time. And he had these legendary experienced assistant coaches. We just talked about in text winner and Johnny Bach and Phil did not get a lot of credit and as I watch this thing and you look at the look at how hard it is to keep the great teams together like no one does it. It's impossible to do and with with all of the insanity that surrounded that group and they really were like the Beatles some of the stuff that he did it. Work just can't argue it. It worked and the best example of it ever is the vacation that he gives Rodman in the middle of A. Who The hell does that? Who The hell says to a player? Yeah you need you know a long weekend in the middle of the season to go to Vegas with Common Electra. And just and just engage in nonstop debauchery. And then just come on back and hopefully with your head cleared and ready to play. No one would do that but Phil Jackson figured out that he needed to do that. I think Phil's finger on the pulse of that group Sort of hand in hand with Michael's leadership Are The reason they would've won some championships anyway. But they wouldn't have one every one of them at fill is a big part of the reason. They won every one of them. Well it's not just giving Rodman the vacation. It's knowing your other the other players on the team well enough to know that this is not going to fracture the team that there won't be so much bitterness about well. Why is this guy getting to do this? And I don't get to do this and you know you see Michael's annoyed. I'd like vacation how anyone does vacation as me. That's what he says in the duck but knowing that the the group will be able to do that the Phil thing is interesting because a lot of it comes down to how synonymous with the triangle. And you know I was at van Gundy Riley. They called him big chief triangle. You know everyone sort of made fun of the Triangle. Because you know is it the triangle or is it. Michael Scott is at triangle or is it shack and coby well. Obviously it's the players. The players make the system. But I I do and people WANNA reimagined dislike. Well what if you just let Michael Run fifty pick and rolls a game with shooting around him and you see glimpses of it particularly in some of the Finals Games? I was watching. You'll see him. He knows every pass out pick and roll. He knows how to play that way. I do think the mythology of changing Michael's game in elevating his teammates is is a is a big part of the Bulls journeys a why they won. Maybe it helped. I bet it helped Ed. I do think there's something to everyone. Involved on offense motivates them to play defense. That's the thing that coaches and players tell you a lot even if I'm just moving and cutting and touching the ball and passing it over here I'm a part of it. I'm not just standing around like PJ. Tucker in the corner. I'm part of it. And that makes me motivated to play on the other end but the game back then was also just not. The triangle was a very effective offense for the way. The game was back. Then by which I mean. Everyone's playing traditional big men three or four guys who can't shoot threes there just isn't anything equivalent to the current spacing of the court and in that era the triangle. I think was an effective way to play but I think a lot of the reason. Why maybe you're right about Philip? Being under appreciated is. I'm not sure if that's true. But if you have that opinion I think a lot of it is fill in. The triangle just became so synonymous that the analysis of Phil Jackson is. A coach was only about the triangle. What are the triangle was overblown or or a real thing or not not about all of this other stuff and even last night in the duck. Michael goes to play golf with Ron Harper. And he's like Phil Phil knows. We need another coach practice today. But Phil's letting US play golf and blow off some CNN if you're talking about keeping teams together you're right that we've seen them all fall apart due to age or egos or I get sick of this coach or this coach. Get Sick of me. The Bulls fell apart because management. And not just Jerry Krause Jerry. Reinsdorf is getting a total pass during this whole documentary because krause is a slummy looking dude with a cantankerous personality so he's easy to blame management. Decided we're done with this team and I said this I'm up one of my podcasts. Recently I do think you know Michael was thirty five. Dennis was thirty seven. I think they're getting up there. Scotties thirty three but Kevin Pelton. I think has a piece coming out this week. On Dot com projecting what a healthy bulls team would have been able to do in nineteen ninety nine. Had Michael Not cut his finger. Cut BURT HIS FINGER. Cutting a cigar. Which by the way that's insane to? He had a cigar cutting injury and then he retired and his conclusion is they. Were probably going to be a sixty one team again that year. And if I do think there is something to you. Just play it out until you lose like Michael. Said you just the honor of being a champion. You just get to play it out until you lose. And I do think it's not hyperbole to suggest that the Jerry's Kinda dishonored the tradition of what a championship team is supposed to be allowed to do. I don't disagree with that. I will say however the degree to which they became iconic and legendary might in the long run have been fuelled by them having been broken up in voluntarily and before their time before they lost before they lost. I mean again. We never saw them lose so when our minds. I I'M GONNA make a ridiculous analogy. But in your mind's eye like John Lennon who my personal favorite musical artist of all time. We'll always be young and he will always have just written all those songs and we will never get to see what his life would have been better. Of course it's not better. It is a freaking horrific tragedy. One of the greatest ones in the history of of the entertainment genre that John Lennon was assassinated when he was forty years old. But the the result of it is that you have no other image of him never existed. We never saw Michael Jordan's teams lose. We never saw them lose the NBA also went entirely different direction after that. So they could..
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock
"Context before I comment on list. I want to be crystal clear with people with Michael. Jordan was playing. I'M A HARDCORE INDIANA. Pacer Fan I did not like Michael Jordan just as a fan. I've turned into this Michael Jordan defender. Damn near Groupie. Because I feel like I'm forced to almost say doing here. Jan Michael Jordan to me has done absolutely nothing wrong. Here in the town was going on. He showed Scottie Pippen. Great support by figuring out a way to keep the Bulls competitive while Scottie. Pippen was trying to handle his business while he was going at it with bulls management. He handled at the time. This never came out now. Even at fifty six fifty seven fifty eight years old whatever Jordan is even now. He's being loyal to Scotty Pippin. This alleged criticism very mild but also needs to be understood in the context of the first two episodes of this documentary. And what we think is. GonNa be the rest of the documentary. Michael Jordan is taking a massive shot at Jerry. Krause and Jerry REINSDORF. He's heavily involved with this documentary and it is a shot at the incompetence and the greed and the bigotry of Jerry. Krause and Jerry REINSDORF. That's what the last chance DOC is. He is defending Scottie. Pippen with his documentary and pointing out the stupidity of these two guys that ruined his dynasty now in his fifties and one day Dr Male. You'll be there and others to be there. You Start Looking back things. In retrospect and start thinking how. I should have handled it. And so I'm sure Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen and had the conversation like you know what man we were going for a second three peat. It was over with at that point in terms of you ever getting the money out of Jerry Reinsdorf so you. Having this surgery late really served no purpose you would have been better off just playing it out. 'cause you relieve at anyway again ended up getting your money from Houston and Portland and other places. There was a better way to handle it in that season. That what Scottie Pippen. And I guarantee you Michael Scottie. I've had this conversation and probably agree. I just don't see shot here at Scotty. Pippin I see Michael Jordan loyal to him in ninety seven ninety eight and in twenty twenty a big dump on Jerry Krause Jerry. Reinsdorf hats off the Michael Jordan with to the picket a step further to during that time. He did. Come out and support Scotty. Even when the doctor said you know okay? Let's take a look and see if it will Heal itself before we go to surgery but during the course of the year he tried to figure out Michael Jordan way. The team has to still continue to win games. But it's got without but if you look at society in itself in business it happens across the board you have disgruntled employees who leave later whether they're a partner in the law firm at their doctor. It didn't matter when they're going through some kind of turmoil with the company. They kind of support the narrative of the company at that time. But if you just away or five years away from the situation they're going to kind of spill the beans on what's been going on. I guarantee you a little bit later at the Tom. Brady retire. Okay it's GONNA be. Some pain said about his tenure in time at New England that he would not say at the time that he was there he may sound like. There's somebody under the bus. But he's Jimmy context on what he felt at the time and how he's building now is it right. I'M GONNA say is right. But his natural we see all the time across the board whether it's sport whether it's politics or whether it's.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Your smart speakers takes it fits it for Trey Wingo trays out doing some trap prep today I'll be out the rest of week I'll be in here sitting with Michael and Michael junior and I mean it just it it gives me all the feels gentlemen I I hear that and I just I I think next time I come over tomorrow Mike if you could just have that playing in the background is that come into the house to maybe commentator that's not happening yeah not at all I used to have a buddy of mine who would play like play like bar gigs played guitar will play bars around south bend in he's from Chicago so one of his big things during his set was he would always play the bulls starting on my house and we would get together five of us that would go through the line up everyone in the bar would make a tunnel we don't go through it and it was electric I only say that because that was where it used to be like that was always the association remember that song and now two days we also have your own zoom calls with our staff and we're you know going through and talking with everybody I look up and half of our staff in the middle of that lineup is disrobing like they're taking off their warm ups getting ready to go out there I think I might have seen in like a nipple in there called all right we got to cover that up as a lot happening it's it's early in the morning when we get together so we could make a tunnel and run through it and I just have like iced coffee at the he'd come in and have like ideas like you know everything up but just think about in this era of no sports or this time of no sports we got the the Gronkowski thing going on we still have no sports actual on the field but we got the Gronk news going to Tampa Bay getting traded by the patriots to Tampa Bay read the draft Thursday Friday Saturday and then Sunday parts three and four the last dance this is going to be holy smoke it is amazing like what has happened with the last dance of like every day now we're getting new comments because what we're extremely fortunate in the fact that a couple of the key players one in particular from the last dance and one who's been featured pretty prominently also happens to be a major fixture in the current MBA and particularly giving you some of the opinions on seasons that happened over twenty years ago yeah it really is amazing you know and and and to that end we have Tim Floyd even talking about the fact that forgetting the last season you know that was thought of breaking it up before the fifth title let alone the six title yes Scotty Pippen out there obviously with us on the jump talking you have not Reggie Miller you know Doug talking as well it is it's amazing what this is all stirred up and as I said you're kind of in the middle of a Jason for me in trade like like Joe got drafted maybe forgot Dr navy five were basically the same age so I I I mean I got to watch some of these guys some of the greatest ever play in the same era I was playing you know Mike you know wasn't born until eighty nine you know you're kind of right in the middle of a so you were you were somewhere in the middle of all this well in that I think was the most interesting part of watching it go look and we go by the way presented by progressive insurance one of the interesting things about watching this was there you lived it so much and I remember at that time being such an NBA fan just as a kid watching here is you know young adult watching it we all knew about this drama I mean everybody knew that Scotty Pippin was mad about is money they all knew that like it was common knowledge at the time the Jerry Krause was dismantling this this whole thing and and we talked about it but he didn't live on the same way because social media didn't exist then so it's funny that we you know I've had a lot of people ask me is Gerry cross being too vilified I would argue that Jerry Krause in it the same thing were happening now Jerry Krause would have been far more vilified didn't than ever imaginable because of the way we covered the NBA now and so to me I think if this were today Jerry Krause would be losing these battles all right honey because the players are making way more money to have way more power than they did I mean again Scotty Pippen was a hundred and twenty second highest paid player in the league was a joke are you know players win the battles nowadays with with GM's now with owner policy but with GM sell it I think it would be a different story today I guess I under I my question is why because to me it's always less a money thing and more power and influence getting like there's your guys on the floor like everyone looked at the chief reason the we all balk at this is because we go off course the bulls aren't winning without Jordan and Pippen like that's insane what an insane idea after at that point even if you're you're you're just watched three straight track championships and we're in the middle of a pursuit of a fourth and you somehow look at that picture when you when I can do to make it better this Pentagon what let's also though acknowledged as much as we're trashing Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf's arises checked somehow so far he seems to be staying above board I'm I'm a little curious to see if this series goes on if he starts to get a little bit more heat because he make decisions on who he was willing to pay who wasn't what you thought was strategy I mean part of it was you straight up told Pippin don't sign this deal with your being taken advantage of more or less sure but in today's NBA world to seniors point I believe that if if it's on the same deal that comes in a few years later is like now I'm not playing for this anymore it gets done I mean if there's if Kevin Durant goes to the warriors ownership and says you know I'm not playing for any less than and the warriors to dismantle not because the players don't want to be together anymore but because ownership in GM dismantle it we we would crush that team can I ask you guys both this because I don't have the benefit of this context why why why why was it different than because I don't I don't think the dollar amount has anything to do what well here's where I I think you may be wrong a little bit is right now you don't get the issue with that because the top players got a tip would have been a Max player right there be no issue Scottie Pippen was good enough that if you had that system then that you do now that's why we don't have Kevin Durant saying pay me more there's a mac system they're getting paid the most they can get paid and some of them even choose to turn that down to manipulate it to go to a couple of last year's two that make more money that they do so I do think while it's not the only thing what would you would have had this situation right had we had this situation now Puskar would've been a mascot I also think that players then didn't have the same understanding that they do now of their power and that's something that the NBA has really to the point to the players credits they understand at this point did they run the league gets there it's their jerseys it's their shoes it's their brand wherever they go whatever teams they play for and that wasn't perceived it twenty years ago but I guess it's it's strange to me to say that in the same breath in a documentary where we saw them both Scotty Pippen Michael Jordan openly bull elect and nothing in return yelling their GM yeah Scotty Pippen said I had that it's it's surgery late this late in the game because I don't want to believe but my summer and I wanted to stick it to the organization like those were all as we always say the parlance of our times the overall flexes in the way that those guys deserve it did business that indicates to me that kind of didn't know how big the stake was the base want maybe but I'm not sure they understand how much public support to begin that at now the support in the locker room it's been a real question you know did they have an issue with Scott did the team had an issue with Scotty Pippin delaying his surgery and we all know that Michael Jordan has sort of been quoted all over the place from that moment saying it was a selfish move we're talked a lot about it Steve Kerr warriors head coach remember bulls teammate at that point was on the jump yesterday and was asked by Rachel Nichols if there was team resentment towards got it because of the surgery time no not at all and in fact you know I thought it was interesting we felt as frustration with him you know he he probably should have been the second highest paid guy in the NBA or definitely top five so we all felt for him nobody resented him for for having that surgery later we all just understood.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Has the it factor on the field who what does all the little things that just you can't measure in measurable I mean listen I think we got we finally are thrown away the the the concept that you have to be this big robo quarterback you know yet you have to be six four six five yet the online through breezes on the great quarterback medical history the dude is not even sixty thought truck we have the locker room account a thousand times not even that got that kind of ability super smart on the field I don't care what it's Wonderlic is who cares the guy on the field knows how to read a defense the guys that the mood he got the the widely that the Ken Stabler after that mainly because the lefty but he's like that the guys mark and the guy can take off and run what does he think hopefully with these entries you might flag up on that but there's zero chance and I mean zero to a hundred that I would ever take Justin Herbert regardless of the history of entries over to it you have to take a chance in life sometimes and this is your chance Miami Dolphins don't play it safe you have a chance to get to a bungalow on your roster you have to put him on there Justin Herbert ceiling is through blood so very good but never great the guy will be very good at that okay this is it like you saying Hey there's a there's a Paul Pierce lebron James yeah the novel well the guy but lebron James you have a chance to get a lebron James and who you take them every single time Scott are you preaching now I love hearing that we got style exam the primetime sports down in New Orleans okay study best receiver in this class we know there are a ton Judy there's some current concerns now about the medicals that coming out late raw eggs stored on it C. lamb out old Oklahoma unbelievable you got your boy Justin Jefferson Pitman I don't all these wide receivers which one you like most about your job the number might this help to all a good day that right now but when you combine the all factor it Gerry Judy my I'd be the most found it did I mean as far as displaying your talents and that's the only god even consider I love drugs I love the story I love everything about him Russia is not got near the physicality of the Jeff Jeff that you thought about god or god I can just knock you out and if you just want the public to watch the Oklahoma game and then you watch that game you tell me there's another theory the country better than him we had four touchdown catch in the first half are you then we'll talk you know a lot of the lamp when mom will receive a nominal but they'll think played head to head and I know one quarterback is better than the other all right so it was no contest that game the better receiver was they're all good at the DP class when you got guys all over the country I think are going to be possible impact players don't forget Michael Thomas with the six receiver drafted in the second round by the New Orleans Saints immediately if the bus is clear from that class we can go over four years ago so the fact here is anything pop up if you ask me right now it's it's not a Gimme it's not like you know two over Herbert but I think just the deficit has got all the boxes checked completely you know and and look and look at the unique rugs lamps and there's a bunch while I get that they're all going to be good but if you ask me what I want to thank I'm thinking how may because I saw him with the others and I know this guy can go study aside from the as you guys inside from the quarterbacks you have a favorite player in this draft we'll take young man I mean the guy they do such a high pick with Jake young is a beast the the difference makers the guy that can come in and and start on the line from day one that is rare when you get a guy that if he sees it they got all the fundamentals that he's got the measurable he's got the it factor and you've got the hunger he's got every box checked on his category this position and I'm a tell you what if a guy named world with that with what is it going to a team that absolutely need a quarterback well I would probably pick Jake young number one you know saying that so good this guy is and I think he's going to be super productive along with the Washington Redskins don't get as well hi it's Daddy before we get out here and I'd bring back the feelings in the style just because we're all sitting there over the weekend watching the last dance the Chicago Bulls thirty for thirty which was just beautifully done every which way I can't wait to watch again here on Sunday I know back in the day you had some run ins with those late ninety Chicago Bulls so is there any you would like to share with the audience right now from you years of being around Michael Jordan and I don't believe will team up there of my life ninety six ninety seven and ninety eight playoff they got to be with Craig Sager literally for every single both playoff game and it was ninety six was particularly special you know I had been in TV for about five years that point but nothing at this level where I'm you know I've been in the closet maybe truck for like the World Series when the you know the bravery ninety five ninety six but this run with the with the bulls just being able to be on the court would say your book the entire game too they don't know they feel now but the system right by the end of the bold bets and we would just sit there robin would always come at you know when he came out of the game you never sat by the coaches became the very event and he's rapping about the entire time just being around that team and just being able to see Jordan from the co or you know like right there on the court for those games when they were just so dominant something I'll never forget and I knew at that time when I'm only a thirty year old guy that I would never do anything better mine factory or concern up on the fifty four year old guy and I've never done anything better my entire career how could you not be in a part of that day you really can't unless you want to draw my Yankees in that I mean that's it I mean for me selfishly Scotty I throw them in that one in four or five been there every step along the way but Jordan and what he meant to the sport and what kind of I. county is and in that second three peat let's be honest got if he doesn't go on as your and a half I it is playing baseball knows they might want to know the title a tale of love I mean I don't think there's any doubt that one and then ninety four ninety five I mean there's no doubt I mean that was that was a train rolling along and if not for Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf that train could go on for the entire decade ninety one two thousand what's the really as far as market number ninety nine okay that would happen and then in two thousand they could have done the ThinkCentre wrote listen I love lebron as much as anybody do stay at my house white when he was in high school we came on my show outlook they those stories but the fact is I love lebron I would on on air saying one time when he was a junior high school that he could be the best player in NBA history and I got a bunch of hate mail from North Carolina and Chicago because of the fact that these two guys are unparalleled in NBA history what Kobe Bryant's right there as well you got the mothers put lebron doesn't have that killer instinct that Michael Jordan as the young folks hopefully that don't didn't get to witness the Jordan era like the old people like myself maybe you get to be a little glimpse of the noun I'm all I'm sure we've only scratched the surface of what you're gonna see in the great Michael Jordan this ten part series us got a lot of memories and a lot of torture and pain if you like being a bowl of the New York Mets fan Seles in appreciate the perspective is always glad you're doing well down in New Orleans all the best man stay safe enough we'll catch up again soon all right remember world to figure out while like that spirit that's the spirit you got study Alexander study take care I'm a friend you people they have a good stuff there we got a lot more draft reaction to get to plonk is back what is that rank now moving forward is one of the crazier comebacks you see in in sports for me I've seen crazier it's up there but we've seen twenty others.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO
"That that partnership between the best player in the head coach and went through all of your first came on you know it he was asked to Michael you know to change the way that he plays hockey approach to game how you approach the steamers and that could be very harshly when you ask someone who is good with Michael Jordan was at that time what he could do things for himself to keep his team in the game natural to go and play a different way so I I need for you you know to make those adjustments so that we can become a better team and Phil Jackson was able to lay out a plan and show Michael Jordan def I planned this way you still can become the best player you still can legally you can score but now you're going to put yourself in a situation where you can become a champion because your teammates will be able to help you Charles Oakley is a frontier to have him out here as well for your golf career with the with the Nixon center and in and I didn't realize he in Jordan or friends in the trade him for bill Cartwright how do you how does that work day naming standpoint is that the kind of thing they run through Michael Jordan before they do it how did that come together when you're making deals like that that matter to the star player well yes this is very important yeah I mean because the one thing you don't want to do is it is Catholic you know you know what the chemistry if things were going very well and you think about you know making a change here they're more times than not enough you have to get the respect for that dad does start in the vehicle you will sit down and let him know exactly what you're thinking you're not going to get his final approval because you know and GMO all you're going to make their final decision on your own but you know if they laid out a plan you don't they did let no Michael Milligan added to your cart right you know he's going to be able to bring X. Y. Z. to us and that's going to give us a better chance right now to win a championship we love Charles Oakley he did some wonderful things for us but how we obtained to date with this out of this office right now a big man like bill card right you have a much better fit how was your across perceived by the player certainly yeah you see Michael Douglas Adams internet lore the baskets if you're gonna be a live surgery in India Scotty Pippen it's almost a legendary he would berate even the buses Setra and during those periods of time how was he perceived from the players and what's your role the players a lot well he well you know you know Jerry Krause did a wonderful job of putting this did this team together and you know he did drop Michael Jordan but he was able you know to to bring in the right pieces you know to go alongside with Michael Jordan and then he he made there hello Jerry Reinsdorf they made the difficult decision to let doctor college girl and now he would have two great seasons there by the way yeah you're right callers go they're going to the Eastern Conference finals a few times you think it makes it very time around you know they would be able to get off the hook and Indian Jerry Krause who brought Phil Jackson into the system because they said that it's time to make a change and that was a bold move by Jerry Krause refund like at that time yeah DeFeo Jackson would be the right coast you know from Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls what they have here you have disagreements with sure and in the first two episodes shows you exactly how some of the players felt about Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf I didn't realize I thought he was kind of hands off owner but he was pretty involved I am very much involved in some of the things that they're J. crawls you know you know did in terms of how he handled negotiations and talked about you know moving players here there are going into the last season now that became the last dance kill jacks no matter what you do you're not coming back you know as as the head coach it wasn't Jerry Krause making those decisions by himself okay our office here he had a conversation with Jerry rice right before he made those moves was raised over pro trouble Geyer what all we can see much you know because you know he wasn't you know I hands on on a like a mark Cuban is but but he knew he knew what he wanted he was like what was going on because he had this guy Jerry Krause you do you know who was there every single day yeah yeah yeah like you said don't be naive right the scene although across because crosses into this by himself Watson tell as we try to set themselves up so that they can you know take the ball but works in in a while I didn't know existed powered him to do it that's the oldest trick in the book sometimes for for management tags at the end of the day if he E. like if you guys had a reunion of all the players but the championship teams is there a lot of divisiveness of animosity over all or is it all forgotten after a certain amount of time you see yourselves as brothers in champions UCS others blogs and champions you know when you're young and you're trying to find a place and you believe that you know you are just as important as anyone else and when you see you know one of the guys who all of a sudden now has taken a step in all the attention was paid to him because he's a great player and you know that you're doing some great things as well I wanna yeah are you know you eagle Peters and can get in the way and and jealousy can begin to set in the book now watch the board's realize you know what it took to win a championship you know all the ups and downs that they may have gone through during the regular season did not hurt your performance once they hit the floor and what and then once playoff time rolled around like everybody's on the same page trainer pretty sure we might have to do this again because we don't know what we're gonna see on Sunday night and so we get a reaction from because you feel like even though we know all this thing plays out there's so many things that we haven't seen before that we find fascinating Hey Mike exactly that the one thing I can guarantee you right now yeah I have no you know I have nowhere to go all right yeah you may book things try to get get remember keep their stick cannot handle a pie I'll be back okay traductor yeah the new Starkey trio WCCO seeks to sports it is like life on steroids because you have to win now you don't it's not like a business redevelop this over five years you can you expect to win now your contracts up now all those things in perfect this one whether they're doing this documentary because you have no idea how intense this stuff is I mean you know you know they want to win all those things which you have no idea how much you have no idea in this is the big one there's an old saying don't take the cheeks what does it mean and why does that saying you know something to do with who wins and who doesn't I'll explain that we come back don't take the cheeks sports to.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Durable evidence that my dad killed anyone what April will usher did have was a feeling let me ask you how many people do you know that have been murdered yeah well everywhere I went people that we knew were associated with her being murdered I'm just in the last three years I've been following April trying to make sense of what her father did and what else you may have done we know for a fact that they're both here and they're both they're nearly identical merrily identical murders occur and he still has his arm raised Mikey never lowered the gun true crime story that's also about our obsession with true crime in the mythic monsters we create that my dad was consumed with the zodiac but I can look you in the eye and tell you he did not kill Jonathan and nobody likes that one the clearing for pineapple street media in association with village the clearing is available now for free on the radio dot com app bring on Roberts here in the afternoon until six o'clock tonight Pat Mahomes Kim Jones day around two continues in the bingo bracket of pain and obviously more the NFL draft as we creep closer and closer to another big day in China jet history right away I watched part two last night of the last dance which was outstanding but it was sold your thoughts on what happened yeah it's really unbelievable at this guy I first of all people made a big mistake on many sides a seven year eighteen million dollar contract which is nothing in the NBA you know even then I mean seven years eighteen million two million plus he wanted security yeah I understand but I mean and and Reinsdorf I mean if you believe it out you know who knows I never you know know what to believe what owners basically told the Pippin not to sign the contract can be I guess according to what Reinsdorf said yeah I think he said that as the ink was dry love saying you guys I mean it's always the reason I that I clarified it by saying he's an older if you want to believe that right point her eyes he is the owner but the the fact that the guy was the sixth highest paid player on the team and a hundred and twenty something highest paid player in the NBA was absurd I mean it's ridiculous I eventually got his money from Houston but I mean it was absolutely ridiculous and obviously to go with that all thing going into the ninety seven ninety eight season you know he could've got surgery in the summer you didn't do it because you want to stick it to the bulls is pretty obvious he said you don't want to ruin this summer but it's pretty we pretty obvious why and you know join I guess wasn't I wasn't happy about it but I look I mean I I think I understand what happened was coming from in that regard a really dope I don't know because he didn't say if he did but I think the best approach to that would have been right as the season ends they win their second straight IDA Brian brushing to call up the owner call of Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf and be blunt and say here's the deal right I want a new contract what I wanted to also talk about get rid of the guy well that's yes Jerry Krause was talking about healing hip in and and Pippen according to what you know what the relationship was never good again after that no even to the point that was saying Iran what on the bus or whatever I used to put in the back it applies jotting you know different things that Krauss yes which I guess was very common that these guys made fun across all that all the time but I think this was you know once that happened I think it was even accelerated by fifty but if the communication was look if you give me a new contract I'm gonna have the surgery right away I'll roto gro ruin my summer let's go but I don't feel like you guys have treated me well I think that even though I signed the contract you should reward me for my play and if you don't here's my retaliation because you really don't have retaliation when you sign the contract right he could have offered my retaliation is I'm not gonna have the surgery to October right and then it's the decision of the owner and Jerry Krause I don't want to handle this now I get Michael being ticked off because my perspective is it's all about the team and you're hurting the team which he clearly did right now you know and all the burden is even more on me now that you're not here and how does a little upset with that so and how about this as big you mention that Pippin ask for a trade that Kraus was offering him that summer Tracy McGrady confirmed that one of the potential trades with Scotty Pippin for the draft rights to Tracy McGrady who would've been a rookie for that nineteen ninety eight team long term for the Chicago Bulls that's nice but I don't know if they would it be a champion right up with teenager Tracy McGrady instead of Scotty Pippin in nineteen oh eight I don't know I don't know about that it certainly Jordan would've been on would not have been on board for something like that yeah joined with that of its road with that no no question about it I am who I like and it really paints the picture of the Jerry Krause just not so you know obviously a guy who you know yeah the videos about him it was it was really a bit a lot about his eagle really wants that and and of course the other thing they wanted to is the Oakleigh park caught right trade right and I don't know how you look I A. as a Knicks fan I look at the trade and it was a good trade for an X. I can't say it wasn't I mean bill caught right yeah bill car right with especially with the bulls used on they were using to be any kind of offensive threat for them you know what I mean right he was being used as just a big man got complacent the fancy could rebound to give you a little score not much they you know they were looking him in advance and obviously Oakley became a big part of the mix of the nineties but yeah that's a you know you look at that trade and you say well I you know I feel sorry for net trade Oakley let me yeah yeah okay well the B. X. against the you get let's talk to one by Jordan for years right and he's on kind of the the birth and the growth of the Chicago rivals but not on them right with the result right not sure if he is correct it's a weird trade because for Chicago it worked in that bill Cartwright was a perfect fit on that team help them win three straight NBA tape right I was perfect for them okay that's that's really how you judge things did you wanna be a championship right telling the comet you made recently when we had Greg Maddux John and Gregg almost signed with the Yankees and on sale now out of an amazing and you have a great answer you said how much more could be a case of what right and you're right it's it's similar in that it was all glee great for the next pound for pound in the new hold on call when the trade from a talent perspective probably yes but it's about winning NBA championships in for the Chicago Bulls they got him in eighty nine ninety ninety one ninety or ninety one ninety two ninety three they won three straight NBA titles yeah yeah but the thing that's only fair in my view to Jerry Krause and by the way please watch you need both stick it to everyone and always use you just met Jeff in a playoff series one absolutely but it is not fair that Jerry Krause is not getting a chance to respond to any of this because he's not around anymore I I understand but I I get it I get it but I mean you know I guess maybe it's that's unfair Reinsdorf is trying to pick up the slack a little bit but I don't I really don't know but look I mean the fact that this guy like you said they could one more after ninety eight if you keep that team together they probably would again yeah why why would you think they wouldn't eat it Jerry Krause would've been if I'm bulls fan yeah im happy look we got sixty it is great dynasty what a great teams of all time I'm ticked off that it wasn't more could no doubt and in crowds probably deserves most of the blame it's just that there are different sides to a story I understand unfortunately we're just not getting his side at all and I'm not saying it was going to change my view or your viewer most people watching you it probably wasn't because at the end of the day I think most of us were gonna take the side of Michael and how he felt and Scotty and all of that but he's not around at all to defend myself but one thing that's always bothered me and you know and you know obviously I realize this now you know when I started watching sports and even when I you know when I started in this business it all I always to me was it was all about winning but then I you know as as time's gone on you find out it's not all about right right any any any egos get in the way and personal issues between people get in the way and obviously that happened we're Krause and Pippin obviously that happened what Krause and Phil Jackson you know and these kind of things wind up destroying you know teams and that's what happened here yeah and I and I and again I understand he's not here to defend himself but it just seems to me it comes down to him I hate to say it mean it's all as well Michael Jordan's telling me that I don't want to play for anybody but Phil Jackson well you know what Phil you're going to be a cultural one but but he brought that to me that's the answer always easy and they couldn't wait to hire Tim Floyd specifically it's going on fishing trips with the guy and while Jackson was still the coach and after that nineteen ninety eight season Michael did announce his retirement right away right by Jerry Krause hired coach Floyd right away will you the Iowa state he was in I was state any hired him in the middle of July Michael Jordan never announced his retirement in January after a lock out towards the end of the lockout right so he basically took away right away he took away Phil Jackson and I completely agree with you that that was a wrong decision course point you don't really comes down to it like we were talking at the top of the wall part that comes around or you can say I'm not letting you as good of a job is I think you've done I'm not letting you blow up one of the great during all these all rights to appeal to hold off for a year I mean because it's obvious that Krause wanted to blow it up after the ninety seven championship right he wanted to blow it out then you right down to the meeting with the fill out and Reinsdorf said no we're not as long as Jordan's here we're going to try to win again that's basically what it what he said you know it's interesting you know where Jerry Krause ended up after attempting to rebuild.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on WEEI
"Season in the NFL team may loves this player while team B. took that guy off the draft board the giants reportedly flirting with Oregon QB Justin Herbert even though they're married to Daniel Jones but then there's Niners GM John Lynch B. and all sorts honest I'm comfortable saying that yeah we we have you know we're we're currently and we will right up to the draft let people know their scenarios where we're gonna be open all at both of those picks to moving back it I mean it's it's our it's out there for everyone to see the Niners have pics thirteen and thirty one on Thursday night but then nothing in rounds two three or four so Lynch wants to fix that by moving at least one of those first rounders the dolphins now said to be targeting two would talk about what we're not fans of tackle at number five and Jerry Judy and C. D. lamb apparently in a virtual battle to be the first wide receiver off the board Thursday night jags defensive end Jana can gawk way really angry that he is still Jaguars defensive and Jana can gawk way he upped the ante social media trade demands yesterday by calling owner shad Khan son Tony a clown Tony smartly replied I think it was smart that in god we was definitely helping his trade value by noon calling in public and got quite has the franchise tag but does not want to be a jaguar anymore other owners can't wait to trade for the guy that will eventually call the clown on Twitter okay he also called them so mo MOE and I don't know what that means yeah I'm I'm free that it's not nice at all he is like yeah his inference there was that it would save a compliment yeah and it was just as Tony Kahn smartly pointed out the card better ways for the seventh or eighth time to make your public trade demands you could do a little more polite we're not all and maybe you get your wish and don't forget that at one point there was a I think was a five year deal the annual average value was nineteen million dollars on the table and he's got we said no to that Tom Laughlin said no more talking and now here we are I beating Gach way is gonna be kicking himself in the nineteen billion dollar a year deal on the table he said no and now nobody is looking to trade for him and apparently the market is not great for him in terms of trading yanks MLBPA head Tony Clark says negotiation is over when it comes to even more pay cuts for players if games are played without fans the union says last month's agreement with the lead covers all scenarios so there is no need to re work anything the Yankees Dodgers Mets and nationals not among the teams that have promised to pay baseball operations staff to at least may thirty first more than half of the league teams have reportedly made this pledge Marlins CEO Derek Jeter is not taking a paycheck for now no Mets fans definitely want the will plans to sell the team but do they want them to sell it to A. rod and J. lo Merrick his favorite apple has reportedly Riddick has reportedly retained JP Morgan chase to raise some capital for a possible purchase okay Peter body why do you want the match to be sold to A. rod and J. lo because it won't be joyful pond so you'll take anybody but Jeff at this point I will it's time to move on time to do something else well I think we can all agree on that but I mean wouldn't you say that almost anybody watch A. rod and J. lo would give you more confidence buying the team it was not going to be in Jeff will punch name anymore Hey Ron jail are very successful at what they do so I I think they need to be I think that will help the Mets get back to some sort of relevancy in terms of attracting free agents bring in the best talent they have with him well they they just have to spend money to do that I mean I don't think that they need the celebrity of J. lo to sign free agents so they just need to open up the purse strings I do need to open up the purse strings but they need a different cultures we need to change and I think this is perfect for them I would love to see the paintings of air ride as a send tore all around Citi field I got all taken with a coke into the bill hope the beds at the level of my bedroom with a lot of it or is there a would a ride still do Sunday night baseball as Mets owner or is that too much I think I think that would probably preclude him from that job and so then that Bhasker should have a job to yes yes light doesn't look across the bay yeah right yeah Xiapi and Booker McFarland on your son and I base will Bergen bug so Tim Floyd was on the radio yesterday after the debut of the last dance Floyd said Jerry Krause wanted to blow up the bulls a year earlier than the documentary says he flew to Seattle during the ninety five ninety six season to meet with Jerry Reinsdorf Floyd says he told Reinsdorf that breaking up the bulls was a terrible idea and that Reinsdorf had him tell crouch that a little later on but of course Floyd did become the bulls coach and went forty nine and one ninety bar citing early in year four forty nine and one ninety he lost almost what was it four times as many issues as the one he's a hundred and fifty games under five hundred for his NBA career and Tim Floyd was successful at Iowa state then went to the bulls then ended up with the Hornets people forget for one season garbage that ended up at USC garbage that ended up you tap as well and now it's been out of coaching for a couple of years at least I think you tap was his first job when he was in the garage yes that was that we went to kind of cyclical and by the way to take nothing away from Tim Floyd that not that next bulls team after the break up was it embarrass all my goodness they went from the greatest modern dynasty two one of the three worst teams in basketball which just goes to show you J. Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf ego to think they could just replicate the success even without Jordan Pippen and Phil Jackson was such a joke that there I hope that the address that the documentary that those two guys were on an island thinking that they could actually replicate success without those guys white also one Horton wait till January I know was a lockable wait till January to retire that seems a little messed up what after so the ninety eight finals right after the ninety eight finals they go through whatever was the lock out into the short season he doesn't retire I guess I deal resurgence you mental January right before the season's gonna start I mean why not wait until I want to do it over the summer I don't know maybe we can get some insight on that with the documentary maybe you should try to stick it to the cherries probably but that that next bulls team for the record still had Ron Harper and Tony crew coach and bill Wennington the rest of the team was Brent Barry Corey Benjamin Keith booth Corey Kolar rusty larue Dickey Simpkins that actually sounds like rise as young guns flag football tax rusty larue did play corner we're still in the navy a college hoops Virginia Tech small forward landers Knollys transferring to Memphis in VC you leading scorer Marcus Santos Silva is transferring a few weeks declaring for the NBA draft Santos Silva averaged nearly thirteen points and nine boards is a junior and Louisville athletics says it needs to cut fifteen million dollars out of its budget some employees are getting furloughed other budget cuts are coming AD Vince Tyra other senior staff and coaches have already taken ten percent pay cuts and now boys let's be stuck on a ride it doesn't take much to surprise this bouncing baby boy the most being on the show to a news show is to a new three years ago a New York.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Season in the NFL team may loves this player while team B. took that guy off the draft board the giants reportedly flirting with Oregon QB Justin Herbert even though they're married to Daniel Jones but then there's Niners GM John Lynch B. and all sorts honest I'm comfortable saying that yeah we we have you know we're we're currently and we will right up to the draft let people know their scenarios where we're gonna be open in both at both of those fix to moving back it I mean it's it's our it's out there for everyone to see the Niners have pics thirteen and thirty one on Thursday night but then nothing in rounds two three or four so Lynch wants to fix that by moving at least one of those first rounders the dolphins now said to be targeting to it talking about what we're not offensive tackle at number five and Jerry Judy and C. D. lamb apparently in a virtual battle to be the first wide receiver off the board three tonight jags defensive in Yanqing doc way really angry that he is still Jaguars defensive and Jana can gawk way he upped the ante social all media trade demands yesterday by calling owner shad Khan son Tony a clown Tony smartly replied I think it was smart that in god we was definitely helping his trade value by noon calling in public nine got quite has the franchise tag but does not want to be a jaguar anymore other owners can't wait to trade for the guy that will eventually call the clown on Twitter no he also called him a sellout MO MOE and I don't know what that means yeah I'm I'm free that it's not nice at all like yeah his inference there was that it would save a compliment yeah and it was just as Tony Kahn smartly pointed out the heart better ways for the seventh or eighth time to make your public trade demands you could do a little more polite we're not at all and maybe you get your wish and don't forget that at one point there was a I think was a five year deal the annual average value was nineteen million dollars on the table and he's not we said no to that Tom Laughlin said no more talking and now here we are I meeting Gach way is gonna be kicking himself in a nineteen million dollar a year deal on the table he said no and now nobody is looking to trade for him and apparently the market is not great for him in terms of trading yanks MLBPA head Tony Clark says negotiation is over when it comes to even more pay cuts for players if games are played without fans the union says last month's agreement with the leak covers all scenarios so there is no need to re work anything the Yankees Dodgers Mets and nationals not among the teams that have promised to pay baseball operations staff to at least may thirty first more than half of the league teams have reportedly made this pledge Marlins CEO Derek Jeter is not taking a paycheck for now no Mets fans definitely want the will plans to sell the team but do they want them to sell it to A. rod and J. lo America's favorite apple has reportedly Riddick has reportedly retained JP Morgan chase to raise some capital for a possible purchase okay Peter body why do you want the match to be sold to A. rod and J. lo because it won't be joyful pond so you'll take anybody but Jeff at this point I will it's time to move on time to do something else well I think we can all agree on that but I mean wouldn't you say that almost anybody what's a rot in jail it would give you more confidence buying the team it was not going to be and Jeff will pots name anymore Hey Ron in jail are very successful in what they do so I I think they need to be I think that will help the Mets get back to some sort of relevancy in terms of attracting free agents bring in the best talent they have with him well they they just have to spend money to do that I mean I don't think that they need the celebrity of J. lo to sign free agents so they just need to open up the purse strings I do need to open up the purse strings but they need a different culture they need to change and I think this is perfect for them I would love to see the paintings of air ride as a send tore all around Citi field I got all taken with a coke into the hope the mezzanine level but on my bedroom when a lot of here or is there a would a ride still do Sunday night baseball as Mets owner or is that too much I think I think that would probably preclude him from that job and so then back best coaches have a job to yes yes lights has employer across the bay yeah right yeah Xiapi and Booker McFarland I understand that I pay for a good book so Tim Floyd was on the radio yesterday after the view of the last dance Floyd said Jerry Krause wanted to blow up the bulls a year earlier than the documentary says he flew to Seattle during the ninety five ninety six season to meet with Jerry Reinsdorf Floyd says he told Reinsdorf that breaking up the bulls was a terrible idea and their rights to have had him tell crowds that a little later on but of course Floyd did become the bulls coach and went forty nine and one ninety ball early in the year for forty nine and one ninety he lost almost what was it four times as many years as the one he's a hundred and fifty games under five hundred for his NBA career and Tim Floyd was successful at Iowa state then went to the polls then ended up with the Hornets people forget for one season garbage they ended up a U. S. C. garbage that ended up a you tap as well and now it's been out of coaching for a couple of years at least I think you tap was his first job when he was leaving for lunch yes that was that we went to kind of cyclical and by the way to take nothing away from Tim Floyd that not that next bulls team after the break up was in embarrass all my goodness they went from the greatest modern dynasty two one of the three worst teams in basketball which just goes to show you J. Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf's ego to think that they could just replicate the success even without Jordan Pippin Phil Jackson was such a joke that there I hope that they address that in the documentary that those two guys were on an island thinking that they can actually replicate success without those guys white also one Wharton week till January I know was a lock up a week till January to retire that seems a little messed up what after so the ninety eight finals right after the ninety eight finals they go through whatever was the lock out into the short season he doesn't retire I guess I feel resurgence you mental January right before the season's going to start I mean why not wait until I wanted to do it over the summer I don't know maybe we can get some insight on that with the documentary maybe you should try to stick it to the cherries probably but that that next bulls team for the record still had Ron Harper and Tony crew coach and bill Wennington the rest of the team was Brent Barry Corey Benjamin Keith booth Corey Kolar rusty larue Dickey Simpkins that actually sounds like rise as young guns flag football tax rusty larue did play corner of the room still available I college hoops Virginia Tech small forward landers Knollys transferring to Memphis in VC you leading scorer Marcus Santos Silva is transferring a few weeks declaring for the NBA draft Santos Silva averaged nearly thirteen points and nine boards is a junior and Louisville athletics says it needs to cut fifteen million dollars out of its budget some employees are getting furloughed other budget cuts are coming AD Vince Tyra other senior staff and coaches have already taken ten percent pay cuts and now boys let's be stuck on a ride it doesn't take much to surprise this bouncing this is honestly the most being on the show to a news show is to a new three years ago a New York couple on vacation having dinner in a wonderful place called coconuts in Lauderdale now somehow the man's wedding ring finger I'm sure you have I fell off his fingers the wooden floor boards of the restaurant's patio I guess they look for it couldn't find it assumed it was gone forever fast forward to now coconuts is only doing takeout and deliveries the decided to do some work on that patio since no one was using it when the boards came up they found gold queen hundred dollar bills other nonsense and a wedding ring with the inscription it might he said they.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Season in the NFL team may loves this player while team B. took that guy off the draft board the giants reportedly flirting with Oregon QB Justin Herbert even though they're married to Daniel Jones but then there's Niners GM John Lynch B. and all sorts honest I'm comfortable saying that yeah we we have you know we're we're currently and we will right up to the draft let people know their scenarios where we're gonna be open in both at both of those fix to moving back it I mean it's it's our it's out there for everyone to see the Niners have pics thirteen and thirty one on Thursday night but then nothing in rounds two three or four so Lynch wants to fix that by moving at least one of those first rounders the dolphins now said to be targeting two would talk about what we're not offensive tackle at number five and Jerry Judy and C. D. lamb apparently in a virtual battle to be the first wide receiver off the board three tonight jags defensive end Jana can gawk way really angry that he is still Jaguars defensive and Jana can gawk way he upped the ante social media trade demands yesterday by calling owner shad Khan son Tony a clown Tony smartly replied I think it was smart that in god we was definitely helping his trade value by doom calling in public and got quite has the franchise tag but does not want to be a jaguar anymore other owners can't wait to trade for the guy that will eventually call the clown on Twitter okay he also called them so mo MOE and I don't know what that means yeah I'm I'm free that it's not nice at all like yeah his inference there was that it would save a compliment yeah and it was just as Tony Kahn smartly pointed out the card better ways for the seventh or eighth time to make your public trade demands you could do a little more polite we're not all and maybe you get your wish and don't forget that at one point there was a I think was a five year deal the annual average value was nineteen million dollars on the table and he's not we said no to that Tom Laughlin said no more talking and now here we are I beating Gach way is gonna be kicking himself with a nineteen million dollar a year deal on the table he said no and now what nobody is looking to trade for him and apparently the market is not great for him in terms of trading yanks MLBPA head Tony Clark says negotiation is over when it comes to even more pay cuts for players if games are played without fans the union says last month's agreement with the leak covers all scenarios so there is no need to re work anything the Yankees Dodgers Mets and nationals not among the teams that have promised to pay baseball operations staff to at least may thirty first more than half of the league teams have reportedly made this pledge Marlins CEO Derek Jeter is not taking a paycheck for now no Mets fans definitely want the will plans to sell the team but do they want them to sell it to A. rod and J. lo Merrick his favorite apple has reportedly Riddick as reported retained JP Morgan chase to raise some capital for a possible purchase okay Peter body why do you want the match to be sold to A. rod and J. lo because it won't be joyful pond so you'll take anybody but Jeff at this point I will it's time to move on time to do something else well I think we can all agree on that but I mean wouldn't you say that almost anybody watch A. rod and J. lo would give you more confidence buying the team it was not going to be in Jeff will pots name anymore Hey Ron jail are very successful at what they do so I I think they need to be I think that will help the Mets get back to some sort of relevancy in terms of attracting free agents bring in the best talent they have with him well they they just have to spend money to do that I mean I don't think that they need the celebrity of J. lo to sign free agents so they just need to open up the purse strings I do need to open up the purse strings but they need a different culture they need to change and I think this is perfect for them I would love to see the paintings of a ride as a send tore all around Citi field I got I'll take what I call him to the bill hope the beds at the level of my bedroom with a lot of here or is there a would a ride still do Sunday night baseball as Mets owner or is that too much I think I think that would probably preclude him from that job and so they've got master should have a job to yes yes light doesn't look across the bay yeah right yeah Xiapi and Booker McFarland on your son and I pay for login bug so Tim Floyd was on the radio yesterday after the debut of the last dance Floyd said Jerry Krause wanted to blow up the bulls a year earlier than the documentary says he flew to Seattle during the ninety five ninety six season to meet with Jerry Reinsdorf Floyd says he told Reinsdorf that breaking up the bulls was a terrible idea and their rights to have had him tell crowds that a little later on but of course we did become the bulls coach and went forty nine and one ninety bar citing early in year four forty nine and one ninety he lost almost what was it four times as many times as you want he's a hundred and fifty games under five hundred for his NBA career and Tim Floyd was successful Iowa state then went to the polls then ended up with the Hornets people forget for one season garbage that ended up at USC garbage that ended up a you tap as well and now it's been out of coaching for a couple of years at least I think you tap was his first job when he was in the garage yes that was that we went to kind of cyclical and by the way to take nothing away from Tim Floyd that not that next bulls team after the break up was it embarrass all my goodness they went from the greatest modern dynasty two one of the three worst teams in basketball which just goes to show you J. Jerry Krause Jerry Reinsdorf ego to think they could just replicate the success even without Jordan Pippin Phil Jackson was such a joke that there I hope that they address that to the documentary that those two guys were on an island thinking that they can actually replicate success without those guys white also one Horton wait till January I know was a lock up a week till January to retire that seems a little messed up what after so the ninety eight finals right after the ninety eight finals they go through whatever was the lock out it should be a short season he doesn't retire I guess I feel resurgence you mental January right before the season's gonna start I mean why not wait until I want to do it over the summer I don't know maybe we can get some insight on that with the documentary maybe you just try to stick it to the cherries probably but that that next bulls team for the record still had Ron Harper and Tony crew coach and bill Wennington the rest of the team was Brent Barry Corey Benjamin Keith booth Corey Kolar rusty larue Dickey Simpkins that actually sounds like rise as young guns flag football tax rusty larue did play corner of the room still available our college hoops Virginia Tech small forward landers Knollys transferring to Memphis in VC you leading scorer Marcus Santos Silva is transferring a few weeks declaring for the NBA draft Santos Silva averaged nearly thirteen points and nine boards is a junior and Louisville athletics says it needs to cut fifteen million dollars out of its budget some employees are getting furloughed other budget cuts are coming AD Vince Tyra other senior staff and coaches have already taken ten percent pay cuts and now boys let's be star pride it doesn't take much to surprise this bouncing baby boy the most on being on the show to a news show is to a new three years ago a New York couple on vacation having dinner in a wonderful place called coconuts in Lauderdale now somehow the man's wedding ring finger I'm sure you have I fell off his fingers through the wooden floor boards of the restaurant's patio I guess they look forward couldn't find it assumed it was gone forever fast forward to now coconuts is only doing take out and deliveries the decided to do some work on that patio since no one was using it when the boards came up they found a gold queen hundred dollar bills other nonsense and a wedding ring with the inscription it might be so nice they put they.
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Time you can chase Corinne and chase Zion. If you allow management and Luke Walton to play all not just the kids because the kids have checked out like lonzo's just checked out for the year. He didn't wanna play for Luke Walton. And it sounds like Brandon Ingram is checking out kouzmines hurt right now. So now you start on's okay long. I said Lonzo he's he's out. Oh, Okay. okay. He's gone. So the point is play Alex crew. So at the point play mo- Wagner play Bongo play John Williams. I know I know. Ron play his thirty two minutes and night. Whatever you want him to play somewhere in there and score his twenty seven point because I keep telling you he can roll out of bed and score twenty seven. So you light recruits you see the argument they make they say LeBron. It's me. Yeah. Yeah. Alon credited bra skip Bayless and a lot of Michael Jordan apologists. They LeBron knowledge. Just he's hilarious. Maybe you don't have power jobs for the greatest. Say that LeBron does not have the killer instinct and Michael Jordan. Hey. Now, see I told you he ain't the competitive, they aren't you? Remember Kobe would Kelly may not side that why never said you remember joined broke his foot the I fifty five sixty game. And if teeth and Jerry Krause, Jerry Reinsdorf, they no you can't play here on your..
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Up here in New York bar is down at Atlanta. And he's got a couple of things cooking for the game. Or, you know. No. I'm just waiting for. Gets a waffle house while of us. I was gonna do. I went to waffle house a couple of years ago for the first time, and I was just so excited. I was so excited and I walked up so disappointed. They're flat waffles, they're not even big thick, full waffles. They're they're flat waffles, like they came from nine hundred seventy three was it a chicken breast or was it something breaded, I didn't have the chicken and waffles. Hey. Got boiled eggs and grits. What the hell? I worked for the waffles. Just shouldn't get the chicken is supposed to be famous, chicken and waffles. And that's when you walk. Chicken waffle house awful house. You actually want a thinner and far be it for me to tell you. But you actually want a thinner WAFA when you're going for the chicken and waffles because it's a lot on the fork, and they don't call the Belgian this is like. This is like Bart how to play linebacker. This is far be it for me, which the idea of you wanna thinner waffle with anything kind of makes no sense to me. How do you not get the chicken? I mean, that's what you go. There. Anyone is well taken is a dinner meat. So you gotta you'll give away some of the breakfast aspect of the waffle. So that you can be able to get before it because what you want is to sweet in the hot mix together. So you have the salt, and then you have the sugar all kind of gives a balance the put the hot sauce on top. And then boom, they got to plead ignorant here because I have no idea that it was famous for chicken and waffles. I just knew there were famous apples. Yes. Well, it's a chicken and waffle our staff, the literal man, that's me. Listen, all I can tell you is I was disappointed because that waffle like eating a piece of toast. Waffle waffle cone with ice cream in it. Exactly. I don't want a nice thing. Now, we're talking all right? Three degrees outside. We're like. Yeah. Waffle cone milkshake. Will rule. Get more calls in here on the Nixon on the fact that just in the last little bit Walsh. Bob, dropping the Kristaps Porzingis meeting with Knicks management today expressing his concern over the direction of the organization, and whether or not what his role will be in the future, and he wants to be a winner with the Knicks. But just really what have wants to have more of an idea of what's going on? It was just so funny. The line of the franchise direction at an uncertainty that a culture is developing that will enable sustainable organizational success. I mean, honestly, what about the Knicks ever have made you think that they were an organization that would have sustained success. What have they shown you? I mean, it's not his fault. He was drafted to the next. They didn't have a choice. But honestly, what have you seen? What's their story about him talking to your soul born they hired physical? Wasn't there? Something about that about trying to get a feel, and and maybe your soul and him. It worked out their issues. I think they did. I mean, I even Fidel said that, but I think it was one of those cooler heads prevailed. I mean, you had the the line that came out of there that was just priceless which was Fidel saying about this all I wanted him to be LeBron James and he wanted me to be Gregg Popovich. Well, neither neither was a case. Bill is in brick Bill. What's going on? Thank you guys were always entertaining. I'm delivering mail all day in the cold. Oh, God bless you. Can you guys work your ass you needed Nobel peace prize? Wow. Guys. I'm a I'm a fan. I'm forty nine forty eight years old. I'm a fan way back when the Celtics fan with Dr J Larry Bird, magic does anybody. Not does somebody have a problem with Brian James totally making a mockery league. No matter where he goes grabbing his friends like I used to when pick up games and has very park a basketball courts, just waiting for your friends, you get over to Kansas went on his own like bird. And magic and Jordan. They had no teams. It's a. The act like Bill Russell I played with anybody. I mean, that's just not true. Andy. I feel like. What are you want? Lebron to do. Right. You saw the finals the not the first finals that he ever played in when he was at the Cavaliers they end up getting swept by the San Antonio Spurs. I mean, there was a guy on that team whose name was I renewable. I think he's doing my taxes. Who the hell are these guys, and then what would della yoga, well that they actually they won that one with Della Vedova, but then when Kyrie Irving breaks his kneecap when they're when LeBron goes back to Cleveland, they make it back to the finals again like what what do you want? Let me ask. If if Jordan was playing now, and he had all those issues with management that he had with Jerry Krause, Jerry Reinsdorf. Do you think Jordan wouldn't be doing the same things that LeBron did I think Jordan do a lot of things he held? He held them hostage. A lot for one year. Remember, join Jordan because make enough for the money. He wanted thirty five million one year twenty five million one year twenty five million a year. He did it. I three years in a row to make a four. But you know, when you go back to how basketball used to be in house sports used to be before free agency player able to move in decide where they wanted to go these organizations control them. That's why you had those dynasties. That's what he had the seventy star still is because nobody could ever get outside of a contract. And it took Rivas uncle to sit out a year. And I believe Carolina to be able to to get free agency for for God's be able to move know. That's why you have more parody. It can be Oklahoma one year if not it would be just the same big markets because they always had. The most money they're able to get the most players, and then they lock them in the long term contracts and guys don't have flexibility to move in plain view, next Lee, what's going on first of all thanks so much for taking my call Maggie a huge fan 'cause you WR GW days. Wow. Oh, lee. Oughta throw that out to you about a Knicks related question. And and it's a little bit of history here. So there's been one I would say the two thousand season. In the Knicks have an awful, obviously, there's been one constant it's not the management. It's not the players. We know what it is. We we know what it is. And what we are. I guess my question, you know, trying to give me the Rangers games too. Hurricanes. Go see the Knicks. What he's gonna say. And and everyone's talking about how the management know with with coaches, why nobody pointing to the fact that this is an ownership that just can't get things together. I'm a player, I'm a free agent. I don't wanna come play with this guy. You can't change your former player actually might wanna go play for the guy because I know I'm gonna get overpaid. And I know it's going to be an atmosphere. That's. We may not win. But I'm going to be able to do what I want to do for the most part. To sit this one out. Just say this argument with the Mets and the wilpon guys. Not selling the own. But but let's not make a mistake here that ownership and front office. That's a connection, right? Because look at how loyalty has been rewarded at Madison Square Garden. So and you can say that's right overall. But you gotta understand like how to Steve mills Sarah, keep surviving. They have Scott Perry. Thomas Thomas, another one, they have Scott Perry now, and I wouldn't be surprised like this is, you know, this whole idea about Kevin Durant coming to New York is been sort of fueled. Because the fact that his agent is this massive Knicks fan, and I'm curious if they would offer the agent job like you're seeing lawn Bab wasn't Adrian Brodie, rob Pelinka at L A was Kobe Bryant's agent. He's now running the team along with Magic Johnson. There've been a lot of guys aren't tell them was like running the pistons there are agents now who want to get into banishment side. And I, you know, the one that's the one thing that the Knicks are always willing to give is jobs. We will update the poll here for you real quick go to at WFAN we've began the show today talking about the jets and the giants and the story from the daily news today that the jets are probably not going to break the Bank quote for bell. So our bowl is should they break. The Bank on Libyan bell, go at WFAN two votes. So far sixty two percent say no, which I am surprised at because that has not been the sentiment among the caller, so far let us hit with Stephen Smith counter all over the map on these calls. Let's go Stevie. What are you got bud? Hey, guys, I doing a great job harkening back to the whole passionate thing with the the NFC championship game. And and piggybacking off a little bit of Fidel comments yesterday. How doesn't want to open up the door with non penalty review? And there wasn't a flag soda things about that. Iran. Already a precedent? Check for flags being thrown and picks up on review. For instance, if the quarterback is over the line of scrimmage they can throw a flag or pick up a flag or if the court the quarterback in a lot of the tackle box. They could throw a flag or pick up a flag on replaced. So is that replay? It's not really play on. Yeah. On the grounding thing. That's that's after a discussion. Sometimes it has to be revealed. All right. You know, we talk about the twelve men on the field when they run on that day. Yeah. A coach has a challenge that right, right? Or? Yeah. We've seen that before we saw that with the jets Packers game a few weeks ago when Aaron Rodgers was screaming and yelling because he took that snap quick. And it would have been a holding penalty against the Packers at negated a touchdown. But instead there was a twelfth man on the field for the defense. What I'm really curious about. I've ever that. What I'm really curious about is something they address yesterday in the press conference, which is how our team's going to feel about when you don't throw a flag as one thing when you throw the flag. And and then if it's a review call go ahead and review, but what about when you dealt there will flag like what happened with the no DPI and the NFC championship game. Goodell said the teams don't have an appetite for that. I feel like was the quote. Yeah. Well, I'm sure that the appetite started to get worked up a little bit after Sunday. I would think that it was a really big appetite appetite he'd go to the waffle house, and they would get the damn chicken. On my Chris car, again, pleading is okay, I know myself at that makes me worried for you because this is your lane. So I go to burger world and asked if what chicken sandwich disrespect. No, it's not. I'm gonna I'm gonna bring you so bad. Can I can I end this conversation with one of our celebrity fans and listeners air Sango. Of course, you guys know him his former had a Letterman had writer now, the animated Lyle and Caroline show on FOX. And Lisa Kudrow sends me this. And this is someone who who who loves you Carlin after carlin's misunderstanding of how to eat at waffle house. I think you embark need to be questioning the direction and pro and program and the culture within our show. Shakin three question. Mark seriously Carlin, your your our fearless leader here. You can't be led us down. I understand that. Okay. I was unaware of any such rule natural founded moment cartilage cold, if that's the case, a chicken and waffles house. That's all he does too much to put on a down t-shirt waffle house..
"jerry krause jerry reinsdorf" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Got to be the guy but you don't do that you do the talent of you look at all the nba's you look at mvp look at five limping ps you look at look at rebounds and when you look at all of this is i don't know how you just like man please that's like you look at it like he's an out the phone he's more than that close the only difference is michael jordan's leeming dry he added another rebound sister anything because the things giving its first three years michael jordan did not wanna play off series the last two years of his career he didn't make a play so we got a fact that nfc because all you want to do just factor in those security which you wanna title michael jordan play what sixteen years so we got fifteen okay fifteen totality of forced miss two seasons in his prime and then he was forced out early after age thirty five season he took three seasons off because jerry krause jerry reinsdorf wanted to blow up the phil jackson dynasty could've come back they'd love to have him back away he if he if he what you said he yeah he should break the brain home got pride in principle and he said if you fire my coach on out of here and he was out of there and he stayed out for three years in age thirty six thirty seven and thirty eight seasons and came back for thirty nine and forty in washington which was a pretty sad into the all time greatest career but you can't take that away what you can't hold that against him what he washington will you hold you hold against lebron you said he needed they floated the owners eighty quit bra in two thousand eleven you hold that against him did anybody ever accused michael jeffrey jordan of quitting in a playoff series always showed always shogo so how much how much what do we hold against him without feel jackson so what is what is doug collins and stan what do they get credit for.