21 Burst results for "Jerry Krause"

"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

10:01 min | 7 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"I mean so maybe just start reading plants right away kate. The teams WanNa make big play. But I just said you can't make decisions that are GONNA AFFECT NEXT SEASON. Just too much uncertainty dare. It's like right now. They're over restaurants pretty soon. I don't see a lot of running to go sit at a restaurant and eat food there. They'll be some young people. I Want WanNa do it. But I don't think people rushing to get back there. That's what worries about the NBA basketball. Yeah they can get in the car and dry but basketball. It's a contact sport. You go back to magic. Johnson tested positive age on the players. Were there concerns? They had their the blind in the. We didn't know much about. Hmo's imagine came back. He still felt that there was still the state by the way. Finally walk away. This this to me is even worse because not a cut. Were blinds transferred. It could just be to the is or your cough in. These guys are very close so a long answer I think just too much uncertainty for them to make incision play. I Know Adam is doing everything hand so when he does make a decision he can say this everything. We made this decision But I just I just worry that. It's you know. And it's not just the players you talk and referees or older you talking coaches you talking trainers. There's a lot more people that are involved in this. And if you're not donate a control of Ed you gotTa do the control of our Vegas Orlando. Can you put them in a bubble campus? Okay just stay on this campus. If they're all in Orlando Vegas where do you think? People live adore these going to fly. They'RE GONNA try to get around it just US creating enough situation that you could make worse. Yeah no that's those are all great points in one as I'm listening to you. One that I think is going to become a bigger one is talking to the Union. Because you decide to come back this year you know that. Sorta tables the conversation about next year which I think is a bigger conversation with the union. Because then you're talking about potentially eighty two game season. That's done a quarter or a half or whatever without fans and that's a pretty contentious conversation for how much money players are gonNA make and we're starting to see signs of it with baseball. Like baseball. Players are balking at any kind of share or reduction in salary. Which as we sit here speaking. I think it's going really jeopardize the baseball season. I don't think they're gonNA done the next couple of weeks or months to and that's something that I know. Michelle Robertson Adam. Silver have a great relationship or really good relationship. But I. that's that's a fight that I think is coming down the pike well but I think that baseball one is a is a bigger issue there. Because they're quite a Barda. The expires after next baseball season. And I need the players. Don't want to get involved in any revenue share. Because they know this. Open up the door to be revenue-sharing into next like they're saying we don't want any part of revenue share because it gives them avenue Shohei. Hey this work this horse. I think that's that's more of the issue for them than than than just playing in giving money negotiation coming up down the road But for the Union in the NBA. You're right because that's why you cancel. The season can to try again canceled. Then you've got to really not have some serious discussions about where angel ago revenue wise going forward. Because it's going to be in antiquated owners. Have OCTA in this The push back so it could lead that were owner. So can find. They don't they. Don't WanNa Greenie numbers one degree to which is often star over again because they've got the TV the allotted place so it's going to be a bigger bigger discussion Going forward I think especially if they don't play the season but I think if they do quite because the Casco and take hit And they're gonNA to try to smooth out so don't take as big ahead so I think you're gonNA have some motor. Said they don't WanNa do this. This this opt out. We'll start over And match were efficient. Michelle they replacement now but not because one hundred ride this out in she should. Because she's been drafty beginning. But it's everybody's talking safety but if it's baseball it's basketball. It's coming under. Revenues coming on economics didn't day all That's all about this. Pandemic right now reopen. It's about economics because today money's GonNa money driving all this opening up all the the rules that we put out the president put out the the foul to open now. They open up because they know the everybody knows. We gotta get your country back for the economics of and I got the same basketball baseball. It is safety first but it is gonNA come on economics real soon with the NBA. Whether they play or don't play because the number is gonNa take it either way. I agree with with all that it always comes down to money. And that's that's where it's GonNa stop ultimately with with basketball. The other part of it is momentum for starting the season around Christmas time. Anyway we know the Steve Cohen Pitch. Which I'm sure you've heard before and others have had this this type of feeling that you know it's better for basketball's health to get away from football. Start around Christmas and play into July August. You know pandemic aside. What were your thoughts on that? When you first heard it I mean were you. Are you a believer? At the summer basketball makes sense. Do you prefer the schedule as is what were your thoughts on it? I'm not a big believers summer basketball just because I painted if you look at College Basketball. No everybody gets for marksman is April and then you know once March Madness Angie goes into masters and then you get the golf. You got the. Us Open different things at people. Then once you get to June people are each and so you know in New York City for Jeb Allowed people going out east. I think will guard mass regard in Boston. They're going to the kate they're going to junior and so now you're GonNa Play Basketball Games you know. Nba Finals in late. July are people going to say okay? You know I'm GonNa make sure I go back and watch it on TV. But I just think that you know college basketball. Some great games in November know. Kansas donkey do good player early. And it just hasn't Philadelphia. We just make sure. We avoided the eagles much awesome but the dates are villains available. I would say will play the Sunday whichever the eagles are playing the ones football schedule met win. It was okay excellent money. You're GONNA play Sunday. Not GonNa around way from it and he football. The civil now goes on to go so February. And so you run into and what. I worries more the summertime because people are in grain of doing the baster. Doing your kids are baseball during the winter young in November That's part of basketball Do People I think the problem is so many games on you can. There's no reason to go to a game because you can get on the on on the pass or every game on TV and take prices again to the point where it's much watching TV. So I don't worry as much about I think he got a fixed the game itself I gave the game has become should is many threes one. Thirty one fifty. It's grade Now but it's not a compelling link. Okay they gotta get a stop possession. There's thirty second team saying okay. We got the scores Anthony at the team. You watching those games Chicago when they're winning. They're when he gave ninety eighty five neighbor. They were great games. Because you every possession matter. I don't think every possession matters in investigating a game anymore so it's hard for fans day engaged because my son is twelve a watson. Watch YOUTUBE WHEN HIS PHONE? Look up for big place because every possession matters and to me. That's where you got to get back with the game. Possession fix again the product. I mean people will tune in more. That's a good point because I'm watching the documentary and watching Jordan highlights and coaches today wouldn't allow to shoot like that like the low percentage baseline fadeaway. That Jordan was known for like. He gets chastised for that. Nowadays mid-range Jumpers are like I mean they're they're grounds for benching at this point. It's like it's coaching NBA. Ninety three. You get to the whole guy and we're guys got to the foul Alan Iverson average thirty but he shot in fifteen free throws in the eighties when he was eighty three year. He averaged over thirty and it was it. These tag files it was. Gold guys is to create those nowadays. I think it's you guys just space out and dragged ticket shoot three and and But you're right though. The game has changed but.

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"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

11:11 min | 7 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"The more significant ending to that are interesting. Note in that document at the end you know Jordan remains this day convinced that they could have brought the band back together and one championship number seven. Now my I think take on a billy is that. There's no way that ban was getting back together like you have Scottie. Pippen who throughout the entire documentary? You note that. He's pissed off about his money. Like wants to get paid. The idea that Scottie Pippen was gonNA come back on a one year deal when he had seventy five million dollars on the table from Houston nonsense to me. Nobody knows his body. Noses breaking down. Simile Steve Kerr and Luc. Longley both got the richest contracts that their careers after that season. Now if it had been like championship number ten and like you could join the Russel's and cousy and whatever but there really isn't much special the number seven it really is mostly special just to to Michael Jordan. So I'm not sure what you thought of the time like about the logistics of it but I just never I never believed regardless regardless we think about if they came back. Would they even be the best team in basketball? I mean obviously Robin was towards the at that point. Pippen was banged up. Longley wasn't the same player but at the time. Did you think that team was improperly? Broken up and and should have been kept together for one more year the one. I would not have been crossing. Said this is going to be his last year girl lady to now because by saying that you had no chance of bringing back to get your fill out of going into say look. We're all going into the year. We'll sit down and talk and see if we can bring us together. It would have been. I think he's probably would. Not The pressure would win on come. How come back for your my whole. Come back to you. Then the pressure would rise of because you got Joe Jackson the Grand Comeback Michael Ridden comeback. Now do you get given that seventy five million contract? Maybe curry no bring back. Maybe we're but the thing about it is. They could have been tough for them to say. Okay we got Michael Backfield back. We'RE NOT GONNA pay Scottish and let him go because then that may have caused Michelman the leave minute been on Rosler so it. May Endurance Mind by saying he never come back. Don At that will force the break. Because you know in Philly would wanNA come back and I think does mine. He probably knew it would have been pretty hard to put the group to bet back together and to go back and try to beat basis again because the next year in the end it does get to the finals and so look at it feel price said we can do what we just did. Probably best to walk away. Yeah and I mean I look at the players and what they were and maybe robin would have been better with that group and with that coach but only played thirty five games over the next two years like he was effectively done after he left Chicago. Pippen flamed out pretty quickly in Houston some decent years at towards the end in Portland. Whatever but he was never the same player. Longley was never the same player. I mean I look at crisis original sin here and you're right about the whole the don't say you're not coming back. Don't take a team that just won two championships and say hey even if you win a third it doesn't matter you're not coming back. That's nonsense but his is greater. Sin Is not like if he had broken up that team and then rebuilt it into a winner may be talking about Jerry Cross completely differently. The problem is he broke up that team and under his stewardship. Anything ever again. Because I think you know as great as finding Scottie Pippen either. He reached a little bit with the the Griffin and Chandler. Right out of high school because he had brand trading him get those players and at times of scouts. You do you think okay. If we can these guys we're GONNA project him out rounding on college in three years. They'll be if they in college for years. They'll be wanted to so. Yeah but the always say once you get guys money you never know how they are going to become as players. Is that same work at beating especially younger. Sma that if he would have been able to Redo it. It's almost like bill belichick. If he's able to do it again this year without Brady and went again. Maybe two to three years. It's like you hats off to because you know that that's incredible run real but very few teams once. She had a great run. San Antonio had a great run. It's hard now to put it back together because what Chicago had when they started. They had Michael when John. Scotty all those guys young and so they grew up together and when they knew each other they knew the culture. When you bring New People and try to recruit culture. You don't know you need that later and Chicago. Never had the leader that made everybody follow San Antonio that Ted Bucket. They don't have that Tanaka where everybody whatever op says they're gonNa Echo in you And that's me looking Philadelphia. We Bay to the finals with Allen Air. Snow Air Mckee Cambay. I knew that was magical year. I knew that there's no way that same thing was struck constructed. Get back their finals. So we traded tower on a SORTA start retooling rebuilding. Because I just knew that team wasn't going to be able to have another magical run. That's the hardest thing for GM to do at least from my perspective is to be early on decisions like it's almost easier to look in the nine hundred ninety s you had. The Bulls had watched Boston. Do just that kind of sort of decompose internally and then go into a rebuilding process that looked like it was never gonNA end. I mean they were so bad in the Mid Nineteen Ninety S. And if you see some of that you. That's gotta be daunting if you're if you're but all your Boston and there's two players that they loss that really affect them more than anything Levi's and Reggie Lewis I think if those two players were live contain to play. I don't think this slide would have been tough. Probably the interesting thing that's current now we're watching. Dallas is because they won their chip mark in bring anybody back and they went ahead dirt dirt to the end and also. Now there's a Luca porzingas now are they on the next three back to winning Jackson and I also see it. They can be one of the first teams to do that. Miami did with Wade brought it. A COUPLA has one but now they're trying to saving now. They're trying to rebuild a alice probably the closest to a team that can they do? It Lakers one with Shag. One to solve with costumes Kobe. So they it goes by appoint if Michael was willing to stay and keep playing in FILC coaching. Yeah they probably could want to chip in two or three years with because you had to replace Michael. Yeah Yeah you could have rebuilt without rebuilding as long as those guys were. Were still around a couple of questions for you where we are right now. I mean you talk to people throughout the League and see what's on I mean what's your level of confidence that that we will see basketball before the end of the season and I don't even Wanna a guy. I was talking to a couple of people this week like. I don't even want to call it like a continuation of the season. It's not a new season. Like everything is new like Bo. Yan Bogdonovich is now out for the rest of the year and Utah like Ben. Simmons is back in Philadelphia. Like this. This feels you can't. It's going to be called the continuation and a champion. If there is one will be called the nineteen twenty champion. But it just doesn't feel like that's what it will actually be and I think that's the problem like you look at Bo. You on having surgery. That was a victim of Ramos. How long is this going to take the finish? This season have surgery. When does the next start will be ready to come back in time? And he had to make the decision based on his his career Be Ready for next season. Not knowing what the uncertainty this season and that to me is the biggest concern is all the uncertainty financial. It's going to be hidden or what? But the security the uncertainty of way how this one guy who said in isolate him but if he just played say they played three games and five eighths in all side he gets sick two teams get to test in what has to three. Those guys has positive me then. Is it gonNA affect other guys like wait a minute? I don't WanNA play. I worry that you just too many variables going into it. You don't know even in two Allen's go make a decision there's going to be enough answers to say okay sake we're going to do and it's going to work Baseball it's outdoors does not as direct contact football a lot further away when they can play. I just worry about the trying forces in looking at financials and say we gotta do this for the financial. I'd much rather than sit down with the unions. Look we met as Frampton forgot a way we can solve is the CAP said a number. That's reasonable. Let's forget how we can make sure the guys can make money but owners are losing money and the solvent it. Let's get ready to step next season star. May We put next season back to November. Because the problem either go the next summer we get to that flu season. Everybody gets flu shots of players got to be second tested so I think they're just too many unanswered questions for new try to save Russian forces down because of the financial hit that we're going to take a lot of these owners visit and they look at it in their business. They just ran out. S Okay. It was a bad year in a write. Let's move forward incorrect. John wrote to try to force this issue just because TV may want it I think it could be. Would you want to do is make a decision? Now Save this season in effect next because then you then you're affecting two full seasons are and then you have a bigger financial so to me. I would just say you know. We're GONNA cancel the season but the players get certainly get surgery. Maybe puts the draft back to July raises back to August. I and let's the aussies more because even if he tried to come back from regular season game. What'S THE INCENTIVE GOLDEN STATE? Seventeen eighteen game. The way they're out of it. So what since then Steph curry going through is fifteen games even though he is on the contrary? God forbid he gets hurt. One of those games next season Draymond Green. These guys are said. Wait a minute her back and play the contract but we're not making playoffs..

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"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

01:55 min | 7 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

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"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

06:02 min | 7 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"You can argue with the delivery of it which I think Michael took some exception to where krause's effectively treating them like property. And if you're a player like Michael Jordan you can't agree that and the CUCO stuff now cross could have maybe toned down the fawning over Tony Kukoc. Over the years didn't have to lavish praise on a playmaking forward when he had a playmaking forward already there in Chicago but those you can't argue with the calls. Can you like Michael Year? Too Bad foot doctor says back. Then you may permanently injure yourself shut up. Don't play CUCO available with in a second round a player of that caliber like he got cuco before everybody in his position started like hunting. The Tony Coaches of the world like wanted them. So I don't think I feel like the genesis of the friction just ham handedly handled. Jerry made the right decisions but he could have handled them and done them in a more per player sensitive way and maximum job is now. It's it's understanding players and understand your your thought process on and I think back then it was. You know we're management your players Play and I think it's player salaries rose and their stature in the league rose. You couldn't just do that anymore. Allen at times when Alan Irishwomen saying any couldn't play we would hide Jersey Break into the arena. Because OF HIS JERSEY. Want TO GET IT. One time were playing. Garnering was hurting his jersey. Was there and we. Would I be shoes? He said he's looking. Who were young about yet. You're not gonNA play music shoes or try to up way to get a pair pair off to show and so their time at that moment players mad and I always try to follow up. Conversation said why we were doing Because you didn't want it to linger I think back then I knew Bob Fury when he was Johm Made Decisions and there wasn't a lot of interaction players coaches. I and coaches this today. It was more coach don't players. Gm made decisions in GM using want around the to talk to the players. I mean nowadays. You've got to be available. You GotTa talk to him and not was the difference in Cross. Nowadays GM's will do a much better job that rookie year. Getting to know Michael Michael Stan and engaging in the process a team in going forward so that when you have to make a decision this trust and belief you definitely have to build a relationship from day one. No question about that ought to aspects of the documentary. That strained belief to me was. I mean the poison pizza story. I mean come on like the first it was the flu game and it was was at the hangover game. And now it's the poison pizza game. I don't know if you saw the pizza guy. Apparently called the radio station UTAH. Listen to the interview. It was basically call bullshit on everything Michael and Tim. Grover and those guys were saying in the documentary. I'll tell you what billy like that like. There's no way there's no way that you make a call to a pizza place at ten thirty like you're not going to say. Can you deliver Pizza Michael Jordan? Like that's not gonNA happen. Moreover not to disparage pizza makers of America. But I can't fathom being chemists that they can figure out like what to put on the pizza. That'll make Michael Jordan just sick enough to maybe not be able to play the next day. I mean I don't. I don't believe that I don't know why like I don't know why it's so hard to come clean with the stuff like you know one thing that was seemingly verified from the interview. That Pizza Guy was that Michael was in his room like so he wasn't in Vegas or doing whatever and if a hangover like that would have been some serious drinking your hotel room by yourself. But I don't like that to me is when I heard that story. I was like come on like that. Can't be real. What was your reaction to that? Well was new. Everybody thought it was the flu. And maybe maybe was just happened to be something that was bad. Pizza wasn't someday maybe don't purpose gonNA just because they're a lot of times revised order room service and something comes in and it just something in the fridge a ingredient could have been bad in the aided take thirty. Maybe they were closed in something ever away. relies on the pizza and service on the only where. I was questioning. It was like you said. How do they know that he said Pizza's for Michael Jordan? So to me. It's like it could have been going to Steve Kerr just hotel so that to me is where just but it could have been. I don't know if it was intentional. It could have been. I guess but I mean God. Nobody's eating more than me over the last two decades and I have never gotten sick from eating eating pizza and like Tim. Grover had a book come out a couple of years ago and he did countless interviews for that book. And I'm sure during those interviews. He was asked something about the flu game. Or whatever like this never came up like this like grover and this isn't some like you know story that you need to keep close to the vest. It's about a pizza. And I guess if you're around Michael Jordan you have to protect all the secrets about how innocuous they are but like that to me was surprised. Why didn't that come up before? Now why is it now pizza and not flu or something? He picked up a day earlier. That just kind of manifested itself in the next day in Utah. That was just weird math. Mu That to me. I don't doubt the food poisoning. I just don't know it was tau..

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"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

12:33 min | 7 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"Gm NBA TV analyst. On radio everywhere nowadays billy. What's going on? You have a as I see. You have a nice little pandemic office there. You're working out of do. Do she pays on the back. And saying the picture behind me for my way there Reggie Miller in how corers but everybody's work from home so you get to see a little bit of how they live. No what no Duke. Material there for a little surprised. There's a lot of duke material. Look he's always material around axial. Muslims Larry Brown so coaching. Where you go you know. It was fun watching one of the fun. Parts of a watching. The last dance was watching that ninety eight conference finals with with the Pacers and the Bulls there. And just just how close that was. How much respect the Bulls had for that. Pacers team and you know. I mean just shudder. Two away from from going different direction. Iran it to that Larry Brown and we had just left Philadelphia and to learn birthday. Govern added Chris Mullin And my group of guys tweeted out. They were guys it. Everybody knew their job in your role in a and there was no bickering. People that gear. I'm threes Reggie with Chris Mullin did they. All did their job and did it. While the Bulls. They didn't care with Dennis within his replaced. GotTa a job when you have. A Very. Very good team is they. Everybody just a role in doing well. I did love the image of bird on the sidelines. After Reggie made the three in game six to put them up with a second or so remaining like not not even flinch from Larry Bird when I remember seeing that at the time but you have a greater appreciation for like a player like bird with literal ice in his veins. That knows that a game ain't over until it's actually over exactly right and I be on the bench with patient earlier when I register what he did against the Knicks at the garden. They ever since someone else will coach the model. What the first thing. I always look at the clock because in college young four seconds usually get a chance to win the game in the pros. If there's a half a second or a full second you know got a chance in having Michael Jordan on the other side. Yeah you you would be really really concern great point year. Michael didn't play and we're planning stadium Degrade put up by two and I think it was like one point. Five seconds left ready takes. Bali turns each took four vows at the stadium Chicago. Become over in Tony. Cuco banks in a three and they went and that right there told me all about the. You gotta look at the clock. But you're right. Herb is a is understanding of the moment and realizing it's not over one. They go Michael Jordan to time. What do you think someone that that coached Reggie like? Would we have we look at them differently? If you WANNA championship. I'm would how much more elevated would he be if he had won a title in those years I think if they won that series and then got to? The finals two won the championship. I even get status would be higher because one they would ended the bowl run before that. You Know Three P. Michael's last year within the when a chain ship he'll be easily been elevated because it's a row ix at the garment legendary but the defeated Michael during in game and Chicago and then going away and changing would have been even I mean championships are so strange that how they they get treated. I had this argument recently with Dan. Patrick who was Jewish arguing about how Rick Barry was ranked ahead of Russell Westbrook Irag behind Russell Westbrook on ESPN's list and it was more about like how good is Westbrook really like if Oklahoma City had not choked away that game six in two thousand sixteen and beaten Golden State and probably gone on to win the championship that year I mean Westbrook. We look at a lot differently too. We wouldn't just be this numbers you know there's this number stuffer type of Guy Stat stuffer type of Guy. We look at him as as a winner. And it's just it in some ways. It is the difference in one game like you. You don't get the job done in one game and your entire career is viewed entirely differently. You're you're right and that was Michael before they won because you know when he was at Chicago basically. He's a great score but he has one and Michael said that in the lab in and then once he won that championship didn't okay. It's another level and in his mind he said He. You know to row you Dr Walking Away but Michael Me Larry in magic never won three rows so that drove in different winning. When baseball came back went three in a row it puts him on older will naturally by Lebron. They'll say the Brandi In Miami when the Cleveland but Michael Chicago winning attached and your one game. Patrick Ewing's Tippin at the garden game. Seven I shoot Indiana. Doesn't we go to the finals? You know maybe we'd beat Houston and when you so. It is amazing. How a shot or one game defines a lot of players careers and people that say. Michael didn't have to leave like Lebron I mean. Obviously it's true but I mean Michael in year three had no. That's when they picked up the greatest wingmen history of basketball and Scottie. Pippen that same draft. They draft the power forward. Horace Grant. That turned out to be the the the mainstay the tough guy in that front court your five. He started working under the greatest coach in NBA. History in Phil Jackson. So I mean it's not really fair. He had things that Lebron didn't have early in his career had the stars he had the great coaches. And if I like I don't believe for second that if Jordan was in the same situation. Lebron was that he wouldn't have made the same type of decision. Maybe not on TV and televised like Lebron did. But I don't think Jordan have stayed with Cleveland forever at that time a team around him well with Rum Jordan. They draft Scott a draft restraint in those guys developed. Michael Still Young. You drive the. It's almost like he talked about a home city when they had Westford and durant they drafted at are to Arden. So you know. They drafted bacchus. They had a team that developed quickly and they just couldn't get if they kept hardly good today and maybe durant never leaves and he doesn't go to say but you're right I think back then. It wasn't the thing to do just jumped ship and go to another team because a lot of people that have the cap space and early on when I. I can't delete a ninety. Three there wasn't it was like you had slots so a guy leading get a slot replace in the guys made eight hundred thousand eight thousand. Wasn't his hat where you had maneuvering get under the cap do at Raleigh degrade space so I think a lot. More people became much more cap savvy and needed so that people look at prominent with the Lakers. He went there knowing that. Hey this may take some time and the first year struggle the AD Council to get get a trailer Egos there so you're able to build a team on easier in nowadays in back in back in you pretty much had to go through the and I mean the only way they were able to get Dennis Rodman in Chicago was because they had overpriced contract will purdue like they could trade will produce two million Robbins to match magic two million being to millions like go away money. It's like tender contracts nowadays. Today's we'll take this. Say TWO MILLION. You get like three second. Round picks or for for those types of transactions. I'm curious your reaction to how Jerry. Krause was portrayed in in the documentary. I wrote this week that I thought he was. He was done dirty in a Lotta ways and a guide one. Gm Tell me recently that like this isn't a documentary. It's a movie right. It's you know here's the villain krause. Here's the hero in Jordan. It's it's got plenty of truth in it. But it's it's it's viewed through a certain prism. It's not done the traditional documentary type away. All that being said I mean I think there's people billy that either knew little about krause or nothing about cross that if they just watched that documentary they came away thinking he was just a caretaker which couldn't be further from the truth. I mean the guy had plenty of warts to him. Like plan made plenty of mistakes along the way we can get into all that but he did draft pippen and and orest grant he did trade for Bill. Cartwright he did trade for Dennis. Rodman you did elevate Phil Jackson. Jackson was nobody like Phil Jackson was A. Cpa coach contemplating going into like the law at some point out in Albany. I mean what was your take on that? And and what was your perception in the ninety s in the NBA? And and I guess subsequently being around Jerry Krause as an executive you know portraying survey I think a lot of some statements jury made organization when Jury said that he used the quote and I think those guys use that as motivation to go out and play when he drafted Cuco. Okay on GonNa guys now with across things on but I did like at the end when Scotty said I was fortunate to play with Best Matt Spun World the best coach in best gm Scotty did acknowledge that. The all acknowledged the role that Jerry played there and sometimes has been you are the villain because you have to trae guys. You had to make decisions. That aren't popular. But that's your job. Just as as Mike wasn't or Jerry job do make tough decisions and new things and the movie. He portrayed facts but it also could have betrayed a lot talked a lot about the degrades pick and TONI KUKOC WAY dead. Even wait for was a great selection to dress Scottie. Pippen you know. We make the trade to get Was it was another great move Understanding what hybrid players need to put around Michael for him to be successful. You have guys who are great scores but there are a lot of guys that fit their roles in Scotty elevated all star to go get gas robbed at the right time I he made a lot of great moose as a person I enjoy Jerry. we will have conversations on calm in trying to see if he was gonNA make moves that we trade. Cuco and whatever I would call a jury beginning would be on the talking about fishing stores. You talk about his fishes during his grandkids and and we would talk and then we get around. The basketball are For me that was enjoyable part of the job talking to Jerry Krause and learning about him as a person when he did away from talking to Jerry West. You didn't get that when I went to Brooklyn Star getting tax. Would you do this and I was. We call we talk for thirty minutes in and you but now would you make this drink now? Okay what about this was the translation but Jerry was? We saw the gym. Jerry would say hi but he was on a mission get to a sea somewhere would be having a staff way from everybody and he was going to focus on watching guys and talk staff. Didn't don't want anybody. I mean one of the better scouts of his generation certainly was a committed guy. Discounting my sort of ten thousand foot understanding of the initial kind of friction between Jordan and Kraus was. I Kraus told him eighty-five like you can't play with a broken foot or the back foot like we've got a which is like the job now again..

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"jerry krause" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO

Newsradio 830 WCCO

02:08 min | 7 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO

"Take more blame for the end of the bulls Ron is it Jerry Krause or Jerry Reinsdorf you have to look at all this year even though Jerry Krause may have thought you know that we may need to tweak some things here and there a look at some some different some different roles to to travel but at the end of the day Jerry Krause could not have made thank you Susan about Phil Jackson not coming back well he went eighty two games that not without the approval of the guys at the top of the food chain so you have to believe that Jerry Reinsdorf somehow some way had to be the driving force are breaking up the street do you think that had they all returned to make a run at a championship after winning that six title do you think that they could pull that off four four Chevy should number seven possible what do I do that all right when you still have eighteen players who can compete at a high enough password management to go out when doesn't match that should go out to look for younger talent to fit into the system that they are doing now so that they're telling players can't be can't educate the younger players on what it takes to be a champion so when this tag for your agent starts to move on now it didn't did you look at your property and they have the knowledge they have the experience and expertise and expertise now the staff of so that you don't miss a beat I believe when you when you look at notoriety everyone's face like a looking for the fifteen seconds of notoriety in doing that right all of the attention went to either the players or the head coach and the front office never got what they were looking from from the attention standpoint and it was a way I believe for them to put themselves in a situation where now they could get their fifteen seconds of no direction hello.

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"jerry krause" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

02:04 min | 7 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"Want to leave and go somewhere else to play with other players Michael Jordan you want to stay here he wants to hear he just did okay so when Phil Jackson's got his marriage falling apart says I need to get away I need a year I've got a again my kitten my what my biggest complaint with Jerry Reinsdorf is that he allowed Jerry Krause to cause this error of divisiveness he was the owner he should have said I mean he goes eighty two oh no he's not coming back that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard and I'm put in and all that nonsense right now that stops right now filled if you want to come back we when that's all you want to come back you've got carte Blanche just understand I'm with you but maybe he was on the same page as Jerry Krause maybe it's just convenient that Hey Jerry Krause said it I didn't want to say it but what can I do about it maybe they were on the same page in this way he doesn't have to have the blood on his hands I mean it's a kid it's convenient large aircraft if Jerry Krause said that eighty two and comment and Phil Jackson the I I mean and Jerry Reinsdorf the owner of the bulls didn't like it he could have easily gotten a hold of the media the very next day and said I don't support what Jerry said I don't agree with what Jerry said but he did it he sing twenty two years later he shoulda said that in hindsight it's it's very strange to me why big Jerry was so defensive of little Jerry instead of the greatest coach ever the greatest player ever the second greatest player on a great team ever like why was it always I'm going to let Krause be the guide to lead the charge I don't really care what Michael or Phil or anyone else there's a divide there it was the Jerry's and Jerry rice or can say whatever he wants now I get aids in hindsight but the way it comes across years later is like you like Danny said he could have done something he wants it to him he could have done something all right three one two three three two three seven seven six Tim Grover at nine.

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Did 1998 have to be the last dance for Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls?

SportsCenter All Night

01:05 min | 7 months ago

Did 1998 have to be the last dance for Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls?

"At last we heard Michael Jordan say that from the outset of the nineteen ninety seven ninety eight season it was their last chance Phil Jackson he said could have gone any joint in the regular season and still would not have been back throughout the last dance we were reminded of Jordan's competitiveness and as we watch the end of a ten hour documentary about a team a franchise that just won six titles in an eight year span Michael Jordan was upset he did have a chance to go for a seventh the bulls were broken up the rebuilding began after that nineteen ninety eight championship could they have had one more in the could they have kept the team together if they tried ESPN's Michael Wilbon Jackie MacMullan I would bet on Scotty Michael and Phil Jackson anytime anywhere let's start with that but here's the problem Phil and Jerry Krause Scott their relationship was untenable by that point so there was no way Phil was going to come back if you don't have still come back then who's going to control Dennis robin even

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"jerry krause" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

02:21 min | 7 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"Michael Jordan's presence in American life is the greatest basketball player here they come they come here we come here we come Michael played every game as it was last every single game there was never a day off for Michael Jordan got to the polls in nineteen eighty four drugs for probably most I never BJ Armstrong the professionalism that that yes Michael Jordan started to that was funny we've got cranky I would ask how did you do I don't know it just happens so strayed a bit to see this would be what does what no would you could get as though you are icy African Thomas a great figure in the NBA you can't go back to the basic fundamentals of sportsmanship I think that's looking back on it of course we would have made a better and so I'm not disagreeing with you I'm saying you're right straight up Jerry Krause the bulls general manager says both organizations win titles not players involved as you noted that there was a misquote what what I said close to players and coaches alone don't win championships at organizations that will car right across the world for Jerry Reinsdorf he makes recommendations but the final decision he does not make it and started abusing Krause open place your person out on the bus couldn't tolerate it anymore in respect of the Boone started the rating Jerry Krause Charles Barkley restaurant store the notion that little Jerry Krause broke up the bulls I think that was very disingenuous underhand Marley what did you think when you heard Michael say that how much cross like Jimmy Carter will broaden my chair will spark you know what I'm not going to last summer a study was he is selfish learn about himself as opposed to what his word was to the organization as well as those chains Francona's our guests when Michael was in the minors you were.

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"jerry krause" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

13:42 min | 7 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

"Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Usc finds itself in a spot. It has been in a long time and that is where they're just getting laughed by other teams for a variety of reasons key. We were just talking with inherent in would he described. I think is really interesting. Because he mentioned organ several times an organ kind of jumped to the front of the line or got near the front of the line when they started doing the uniforms. They redid their facilities. They started to brand themselves as kind of different from everybody else. We've seen all the crazy locker rooms and facilities and what he was talking about. Thomas talking about a few minutes ago is that USC had four people in charge of their recruiting and other schools have like four people in charge of just putting together. Graphic design elements for these programs is are they just behind? They need to catch up or is it just as simple factors. They're not winning and putting guys in the NFL like they used to have guys decided to go other places look man. I've had a number of my family members being recruited. They've been given our graphic designs in different posters. And all that sort of stuff and hype videos for years. That's not that Dave. Make it sound like they ain't never had a height video before they've been having high videos. I could pull up archives sitting in my Room with millers boxes of mail with posters and hike this and graphics that everybody Wyoming does that. That ain't GonNa make a program that what's going to make the program as you win in in Gin guys drafted now to Klay. Hilton's point as well as times yes. The recruiting department was smaller than some of the major Alabama Alabama got a whole section a whole floor dedicated to recruiting services which means which means those are people that may be reaching out to guys help breaking down recruits. Feel so it's already ready for the coaches the look at when it come off the field and practice. Those are the sorts of things that the recruiting staff does okay scheduling with coaches. Go to games. What from game to game scheduling things. Not to the point where there so significant to ws ills of your program. They make it seem like they were losing games. Because they're recruiting staff wasn't attack. How about guys drafted? You know you talk about hype videos and you mentioned. Lsu and you look at Hyde videos from Lsu Lsu something like sixteen drafty during title offense already entire office or whatever. It's a good video right. How you going to put a high video? Which is Michael Pittman in Jackson tackle? You can't put no hide video together with that. You can put a video together when you got the CD lamb and in in Jalen hurts and all these other guys. It's going in the draft Oklahoma. Or if you are Alabama and you got nausea harass you got Henry Rugs in Jere Judy? Inex- savory mckinney it to of a layer. That's video 'cause I showed them want to see a high video of a dude that ain't getting no run he's got on a uniform waving tile that's not GonNa Excite me a point where we are now in the recruiting landscape of things is only so much graphic. She'll be able to send me that. The next team is sending me or the next school sending me. There's only so much of that that I'm even gonNA open up when you send me a letter me. There's only so much because at some point you can ready to get on my damn nerves with these sale pitches. I'm GONNA tune you out at some point but there is something to be said and all of purchase homes about curb. Appeal that to me. Is What hype? Video is no. It's not going to be the deciding factor if there's a leaky holes in the roofs or there's no second floor and you want want like no it's not. GonNa Change Your mind but it gives you a certain kind of feeling before anything else. I can see. Yes so literacy programs never completely you know everybody. Video camp by your hype. Dios our weakest. Hey that's a bad taste. Look Elsie. Everybody got hype videos. I need to say it again. Wyoming gotTA hype. It ain't it dead ain't WHO's talking to make. Elsie grant is trying to recruit me. I'M PROBABLY NOT LISTENING TO L Z. But if I if I got if I got a coach that's recruiting me that knows how to recruit if I had kief Williams who's receiver coach. There was that Nebraska. They're probably be aware will soon hear that. Knows how to recruit if I had probably this simple Dante Williams the DB coach USC right now. It was at Oregon that was very instrumental in turning the Oregon program around and getting the California recruits probably engaged in him in that conversation. 'cause I vibe with him I understand who years we kind of. See the same thing. He's young enough. He's not a dinosaur. He dresses cool. I'll probably talking to him. Look what this is. Is the last card to play right. I mean if you've played the swap out my assistance. You've played a this is a cycle. You've played the. We've got the right quarterback in the last card to play is don't have the results that you need when you're not putting guys in the NFL when you're not competing for a national championship or conference title. The last chord the play is or facilities and our infrastructure is out of date and we need to update that this a lasting. You have before you get before you get clipped beautiful ain't nothing wrong with the facility. So they don't video a week but by the facility. I'm not talking about necessarily the weight room locker room and I'll tell you about the aesthetics of the program the hype videos just everything that goes along with it that it has nothing to do with what we're talking about on the on the field. Well we're really is about recruiting right so like you said it's about the development like no no it is but I'm saying for our conversation right now based on him being ranked eleventh. The conversation started about recruiting US Mitch. And that they've played that car with the assistance. They swapped them out. Yes they did. The recruiting is up because of that to a degree. They gotTa Dante Williams in. That does a good job of bringing these players. Getting them focused in on looking at the program. The bottom line is it gonna come down to what you do an Arlington men in September. You're going to do at Arlington Ball down to you. Know this as well as anybody and I've been watching and following. Usc football for my entire life USC used to be the team that would go into Texas and get a running back. It would go in Ohio and get a linebacker would go into New Jersey and find a guy that USC was the guy that would go nationally and pick the guys that they wanted and every single guy in La in California on the west coast that they wanted came to USC. And it's flipped entirely those guys go to Oregon Alabama Ohio state and Lsu and USC doesn't go outside of the area to get guys they become what they never were before and that is the two one second. I'm not coming to USC from across the country. When I ca- stay over there and lose I lose I can go to Texas and get the same record while need to go to USC. I got good weather in Austin so they gotTA win again. It's going to ball down to. What are you going to opening day in Arlington Texas? Jerry's world where you take Alabama you going to do or you get fifty hung on you again or you battling win because of you battling win then you go turn things around if you get run out of the building the recruiting and the number ranked eleventh and all over with because all Nick Saban GonNa say you want to be part of that. Do you really. Because I can guarantee you with Steve. Sarkisian lining up for. I've already had a conversation with him. He getting ready to try to dial it up. This focus is trying to now. He's GONNA WANNA run them out of the room. He's going to run them out of the building. Yes no dad and by the way. It's go countered at punch or you stay in just taking and getting knocked out. That's what it's going to boil down to one of the guys that his one of V guy we get absolutely annihilated in the last dance Jerry. Krause somebody that you might not think has his back till you who it is what he said. That's next on the morning show on seven ten. Espn the so the guy who has been just absolutely taking it on the Chin in the last dance. Is Jerry Krause right that we've seen Michael Glad? I'm a few times seeing the way that Scottie Pippen felt about him. We've seen a way that he talks about Phil Jackson and he's not coming back and we're doing this and the next thing. I was really surprised to see of these quotes from Phil Jackson Phil Jackson. Woods on balls DOT COM and was talking about Jerry Reinsdorf and he had his back what he said was. I had to temper what I had to say when I was in La. I couldn't say the Bulls would do things. This way. The Lakers felt they knew how to do things even though they were ten years behind. Jerry we had a cable system Ryan store in a borough center to tape all the Games that we wanted we started using an internist is the doctor to process. Players needs is a whole player and not just a specialist. He used Alvar meal weight. Training players want offseason training programs. He bought into Al's belief that took ten weeks or more for a player to build a base to work through. During the course of a season. The Phil Jackson is saying that part of the reason. The Lakers had the run with Phil Jackson. Kobe shack which was the last great laker run. We saw them win five championships over. The course Kobe's career was because a lot of the things that they brought from. Jerry Krause the Bulls. That really caught me by surprise. That's not surprising though. I mean if you have success at one place and it worked for you had another place you try to implement and bring that stuff with you. And if you're not sharing your recipe with the rest of the Lee on how you doing things teams and organizations are going to be behind so that wouldn't be surprised. I mean not at all the Dr Bus and the Lakers won a certain way with showtime and it worked for them for so many years but then eventually Chicago Bulls did it they wait. It caught up in passed the Lakers. And I'm sure the Detroit Pistons did it the way a different way. Before the Chicago Bulls called them and Boston. Celtics data different before the Detroit. Pistons caught him so. I'm not surprised by that key. They've gone out. Every last player on the bowls has gone out of their way to talk about Jerry Reinsdorf play. Excuse me Jerry Krause like. He's the devil. Did he was the guy but I think more about. I think it's more about the paying of Pippin in his personality. Have Him wanting to be Sam? Smith said he wanted to be a player in wanted to be treated like a player when he was nothing. But a guy that was a number cruncher scout. A glorify scout put teams employers on the floor. That was pretty much all he wanted to be. I mean was but he wanted to be so the guy who was an architect that was way ahead of the game. According to Lessen Authority than Phil Jackson. It is true but the players don't view that sort of that they don't look at that they're just looking at the. Do come and talk about. He wanted to get a massage so I mean I don't even want to take a body taking his clothes on the board. Besides just based on the structure of his body would may a certain way but if you junior reputable I say ripple army rested pieces. I don't want you to take a massage with like. That doesn't mean just put that together. He's supposed to come in our training room tone by Dick's across unlikable guy and he over the overstepped its bounds in terms of interacting with the players. For sure but be not mistaken. The Moods are getting Toni. Kukoc COACH. That was done before. The Spurs were nick deep and recruiting international players themselves. The idea that you would trae for Dennis Rodman when everyone thought you were crazy. And that turned out being the best thing. Ever to your franchise. That's a gut Bill Jackson. Who's like in Puerto Rico? Coachee I mean he will all Vassar bar. There's another cleaning done credit. But he does get credit from that from people. Not like people aren't saying they said in the documentary. He found feel Jackson over in Puerto Rico and he had drafted Toni Kukoc way earlier and Tony decided to stay in Europe and they said all of that so he's getting credit for now those sorts of things the other one two guys and it didn't go down but he was right it. He identified trees ingredient very early and new of it. You know what that could be a guy to that that that could slide in Scottie. Pippen's role and we continue to roll the way that we have in hindsight twenty twenty for sure but Tracy McGrady and the Scottie Pippen Rolling. Yeah I can see that. I can see where that would be a really effective combination. He it's an interesting deal because he's clearly an unlikeable personality the just the way that he conducted his business is incredibly abrasive. And I get why people didn't like him but I don't know if the conventional wisdom is how much he had to do this Michael Jordan's the reasonable symbols. Obviously but Jerry Reinsdorf after Phil Jackson. Maybe Scottie Pippen is the other reason that the Bulls had great run. You Jerry Krause. Yeah I'm sorry..

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ESPN Michael Jordan doc: 'The Last Dance' episode 3-4 highlights

Pro Football Talk with Mike Florio

04:37 min | 7 months ago

ESPN Michael Jordan doc: 'The Last Dance' episode 3-4 highlights

"From now last night the last dance Michael Jordan of the Chicago Bulls we have a so it's three and four and these two episodes centered on two different revolving storyline it's been a little bit confusing as great as the filmmaking is it's been a little confusing if they darted back and forth between eras the reason they're doing this is not just a start to finish documentary the timeline of the nineteen ninety Chicago Bulls which which start hypothetically would Jordan gets there the eighties then go right through nineteen ninety eight instead of it's built around the all access footage that they got in nineteen ninety eight and so that's got to be at the core of it and then they build around that the sub plots of what happened with Jordan first got there the building of the culture of the hiring of Phil Jackson the resentment of the Jerry Krause the addition of Scotty Pippin all these little things along the way and so last A. U. two totally different eras kind of combining these two episodes the one era being the nineteen late nineteen eighties early nineteen nineties wars with the Detroit Pistons the bad boys pits and buys that Thomas Joe Dumars and Dennis Rodman and then the modern carnival surrounding Dennis Rodman with the bulls and I say moderate in air quotes because it was nineteen ninety eight so you have the late eighties wars with the pistons and the late nineties battles in keeping Dennis Rodman on tracks was been a little confusing to go back and forth if you're not really familiar with how the whole thing unfolded I thought as I assumed that the episode against the episode of the wars with the pistons were going to was going to be one of the most captivating if not the most captivating because it is a moment in time where Michael still can't win and I think that there is I don't want to see it inaccurate because it is accurately the the reputation of Michael Jordan's accurately depicted as six time champion he did those things he was six now in the NBA finals six NBA finals MVP awards they never went to a game seven so is accurately depicted as a winner but what is often times forgotten is there is a chunk of his career he is not a winner and when I see the tear downs of lebron James o'reilly C. with anybody's compared to Michael of they don't have the killer instinct they're not a winner they don't take the last shot all this stuff that really is surrounded lebron by and large but it's hit other players as well and kind of makes everybody pal compares to Michael I keep reminding myself and those around me yeah but Michael wasn't always Michael that we know him now he's a finished product he is now a icon he was a winner but there were years that's the reason is because I watch those years had remember getting Sports Illustrated the mail where it said basically you don't the pistons are stopping Michael Jordan could can Michael didn't get past the pistons can Michael Jordan win a championship and that the conversation at that time nationally was Michael great individual player cannot win the title is not good enough to make his teammates better in Seoul I was glad that that part of the narrative is being talked about with that with the pistons that does our blood feuds and Michael could not get over this any loss to the pistons three consecutive years the only highlight the last two years the United ninety last night they lost we get eighty eight as well that is three years off Hey gene for Michael to after where they did they finally get over to nineteen ninety one so those wars to me were the most fascinating part about last night's two episodes because that to me is one of those interesting errors if not the most interesting era of the bulls is that they are better than garbage which they were when he took over when when he got drafted they're not as good as they were when it was assumed they would just blow through the league they're in this transition state it it's almost like it's almost like growing from a warm or caterpillar to a butterfly it's in that moment is the nineteen ninety in nineteen ninety one pivot point post seasons where they lose to the to the pistons in seven and then they finally beat him in nineteen ninety one by sweeping them and I say and the bad boy pistons walk off the floor before the game is over and don't shake the

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"jerry krause" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

12:23 min | 8 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

"Good morning everybody. Hope you're off to hand. Start on your Tuesday. How you guys doing out there. I ban tastic. That's a good answer keys. And he's singing right out of the Chute. That's good news key. It is music looked calm is like the mid eighties and I'm flying in my convertible down. Pch Drugs front-seat night. Even the back in the front seat you couldn't put those in the trunk or something knows to drugs in the front seat down. Pch convertible car mad at the world but excited at the same time. What are you mad about everything that was going on in Santa Monica before I hit back? Drivers think he's mad because he's in a convertible and it's drugs but the play out the car flying so fast that you think it's only one person in the car but it's really too and then the cops pulled me over and they find out his second person key. I think you've got to forget this whole sports broadcasting. Then you gotta go to work like right movies or something because you have very acute imagination about this scenario with the music and the cars and the setup the fact that you have a a A conflict in Santa Monica. That's leading you drive past. You basically wrote the movie in your head. You just gotTa put a piece of paper. Maybe you've seen those movies with a guy is in the car convertible and he's a party boy. He's got some girl in a car but you can't see her and she they're flying. They're doing all sorts of illegal activity gets pulled over right on ridged cop pulls up. He looks up. He's like Oh okay. Loans are Molly Ringwald and one of those John Hughes movies. Listen little this little P. and G. I. Feeling keys movie would be at least. Pg Thirteen maybe are. I don't think he's going to John Hughes route thirteen twenty yesterday like in Fourth Twenty. I feel so good. You Celebrated Law Day of the listen. I wrote a stop celebrating Holidays Easter. Like he wasn't nothing and idea for twenty like he was something you know much about four twenty yesterday's the first time I heard it and that's because I'm in house in I'm not watching the depressing news so I'm not really you know I'm not in a car. I'm not hearing the radio usually just watching television. This is the first time that I if four twenty this is the first time I heard about it. Well I have a four alarm set on my calendar. Starts Regan starts ringing on the seventeenth to make. Sure your supplies so you don't get too low. I just think it's funny. You say that about the four twenty part but he didn't have the news on anybody out. There is just looking to take a break for a day. That is a really good place to start is. Don't look at the news APP on your phone. Don't turn on the TV just the day. We all need to be informed and whatnot but taking the day off from that is not a bad idea man. I took a day off for sure. I walk the dogs and I was just thinking you know I was thinking to myself as walking the dog. I've been watching that. You know I just. I can't I couldn't do. I couldn't do. It's good advice. Good advice the last dance was as popular as we thought it would be Part one drew over six million six point. Three million people are to just under six million people. Five point eight million people so it was some of the biggest sports documentaries we've ever seen. It beat the Bo Jackson. One pretty comfortably beat up OJ. America part one Nearly doubled the audience of OJ and not a huge surprise. We were all looking forward to it. But it's funny that even a couple of days after it debuts. We're still getting more and more information. Now we find out Tim. Floyd was talking that we knew the template came in to replace still Jackson and ultimately we knew that Jerry Krause wanted to blow them up but what we didn't know is that he wanted to blow them up a year earlier. Here's Tim Floyd on the radio talking. About how after the seventy two WIN SEASON JERRY? Krause wanted to hit the button. That'll Jerry REINSDORF and I walked around downtown Seattle and they ended up the Bulls ended up winning that series. That was the first year Michael came back or walking around down down and he basically said look Krause wants Phil gone this year. He thinks that Pippen's breaking down his his back. He thinks that this this team is run. Its course He doesn't WanNA overpay these players. They're coming up on their contract years. He wants to move before before their contracts are up ninety seven ninety eight where we can still get value for him and he can start to rebuild and In Jerry Reinsdorf you know it was torn. Because they're winning but Jerry Krause wanted a over and done with so that he could go back and basically take all the credit for the next rebuil- May to hear from the guy that was about to get that. That is stunning stomach. You've been in a similar situation championship team and they start to break it apart. Piece like piece by piece as a member of that team will just going through your head. Well you start off by you know the year that originally hired him you always gotta go two years a year before that to know that the flirting has already started just because he's now the head coach all of a sudden. No He's been talking to this guy behind closed doors for years so Just undercover you. You start to you. Start to look at and say just like he said about Jerry Krause. He wanted all the credit. I remember. We won the super bowl in Tampa Bay and all of a sudden these we started to. You know we wanted to make a second run back at it the next year and we could have but eagles got in a way. It much like Mike Wilbon. Who's on our show yesterday said As I was saying to you guys prior to that eagles getting away a lot of things start to dismantle two championships in in for us when we won the Super Bowl John. Gruden's Eagle got an away. The next year and things started to fall apart. I left team rich. Mckay in the middle of the year or general manager elected to step down as a Tampa Bay buccaneers general manager in left teams to become the Atlanta Falcons general manager and middle of the season. Keenum cartel leaves the team. Warren SAPP leaves the team. John Lynch leaves the team a couple of other guys. They leave the team Because of different contracts or or didn't WanNa play for the coach anymore just became one of those deals. Where you sitting there you go man. We could rent you know we could have won three of these things down in. Enjoy the ride instead of coming in here in worrying about who gets the credit. He was so worried about everybody. Giving Tony Dungy to credit. Because it was his team and everybody giving rich McKay to credit because he built the team that he did anything he could to for the demise of breaking up the program. Small men do small things. Does John Small. It doesn't matter how you define the salt a small but small man do small things. You could be the richest person on Earth. But if you're a big man you're GonNa do small things and I think that's what you're talking about. You're talking about someone. Perhaps in Jon Gruden who even though he's big in the NFL. Just want to super bowl. He's on top of the world. He's all over television. He still was small on the inside. And that prompted him to do small things because he didn't feel the bigness that everyone else was him for. He was just seeing the small guy. Steele and Jerry. Reinsdorf obviously Jerry Krause so that his small band in Tallahassee to saint team so his franchise. It's sad but it's not a story that's unfamiliar to US was look at look at Dallas. I mean Dallas had Roland. They want to super bowls with Jimmy Johnson and then they made a change there because Jerry Jones felt that he was not getting the credit that he wanted to bring it here. So that you know Jerry Yang tomorrow. I'm not talking about physically small if Eko prompting him to do that because I was thinking more size not not physical smallness the smallest of. I'm not getting the piece of credit that I want to see that every day we see that everyday life what the statue of the body is the mind of being small instead of big pitcher to part of this to that just keeps coming back abuse. Cook this first of all to have a dynasty like we saw the warriors very recently where they went three and five years. But we hadn't seen three in a row couple years off and now you're going for three in a row again but in the midst of it not as it's starting to break apart not as guys are getting hurt and getting older but in the middle of a championship run. They're actively trying to blow it up and go back to the warriors would if they'd said Steve Kerr you're not coming back Kevin Durant. We're GONNA move you want. And they all wanted to stay together. Imagine a reaction to that. It would be the same reaction we get. Now when we look at the Jordan would have the same reaction we got when shack lift in the Kobe. Bryant Saga the same reaction. I mean what are you doing and we do. The problem was think about all the bands. I've broken up really really good historic band. They're broken up because somebody wanted for credit or somebody's Eagle got too big and end up destroying the whole eight television shows. You guys know one of my all time. Favorite shows Golden. Girls talk about all the time. I was shocked with each other warning. Show show a pretty good job of concealing it right. Were until now. We'll see we'll see who. Who's the Jerry Krause in this? We need to identify? There was a way to keep it going. Even without the way that they had it set up the Bulls did have a plan in place that might have actually worked at Take place we'll get into what that was in. Who killed that one? That's going next on the morning show on seven ten. Espn can I tell you something? No I was a little worried about you last night. I was a little worried that I did not see the whole movies of you making dinner. That's Kinda come part of my normal routine when I did not get a a series of videos of you put together at dinner. I started to think all right. Well you know what the problem is is a has a little have a little injury going on in my hand and it's not from videos typing or anything like that. It's got to be an old injury from football and I had to have slept on it wrong on my hand in a has some sort of hairline fracture in the middle of my in in just never heal properly or something and I slept on wrong in our woke up and it was you know it was hurting and it was stiffening swollen and I just kind of it's been bothering me for the last couple of days but I'M GONNA go in Coma Dr Day when I get off the air and see if he's available to check an x ray and check it out to see in fact if it is something like that or did I just really really badly lean on it to the point where it's just you know no return. I mean it really hurts like aol where your mask when you go into the doctor. My mass when I go outside gas station mass grocery stores mask anywhere. I don't mess around L. C. R. U. Mass Guy Everywhere. You go are you masked up first of all? I'm.

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"jerry krause" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

02:50 min | 8 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"Because they're winning but Jerry Krause wanted it over and done with us so that he could go back and basically take all the credit for the next rebuilt yeah we've got we've got the better of the clippers failed on their draft picks and if you have those picks you could really be something so any now what does your work that day walking around downtown I said Jerry he I'm not sure Jerry Krause tender stands these guys are basically the Beatles in the lives of the most popular franchise of all time unless the I if I knew I would not do this and I would not do this maybe not even the following year as devoted died from natural death because there are certain players and certain things you just don't break up and I think that these guys have earned the right to let let die from that so anyhow back I got back to my job which was that I was very and Jerry Reinsdorf and Jerry Krause called me and they won the championship and Jerry Krause was still hell bent on breaking act and you're a writer says that the Pimlico bureaucrats what you told me in downtown Seattle about next year and I felt very proud of me since I can't I can't do it he said you don't understand I don't want to work with yeah well I want to just do this one if you were downtown with your what Phil worked out of the other place you know you'll just stay the hell away from each other because the falcons how about that you just select fill her kid the other place and you go downtown because they had offices downtown either at the United center or previous to that they were on the corner of Michigan and oak they had offices right there one mag mile and for whatever reason man those two guys got sideways don't forget Phil Jackson showed up to the Deerfield multi plex in a faded on talk polo golf shirt and S. Panama Jack straw hat in ripped jeans for a job interview and cross got rid of you're out here the next year he came back the student I got hired as the assistant and eventually became the head coach all right the man that drafted Michael Jordan his name is rod thorn he joins us next capping company for ESPN one thousand Chicago's home for sports every time you close your laptop the corona gets its line and every time you to do list do one less thing corona get to slime every time you press pause.

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"jerry krause" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

WGR 550 Sports Radio

02:10 min | 8 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

"To championship score for the third Indian one of our third championship and you still want to dismantle the same light I thought it was all about women and men and women chips and to Jerry Krause like I know he's he's not here with us and he can defend itself and so for me you know I had a like a personal connection because he tried to trade Scotty Pippin for me on draft night so that ran on one of our early shows and it blew my mind the trade you the last hours of the draft before draft night I flew to Chicago and got a physical and had a conversation with Jerry Krause and everything and he was real serious about trying to get B. in the address Michael Jordan you said is the one who put the kibosh on that also considering what kind of player you turned into I don't know what the future would look like with the two of you brought all the Michael is obviously the goats I have a lot of things including holding grudges and he's got his hand on this documentary and he has been angry Jerry Krause for twenty five or thirty years and he is letting him have it full bore if this documentary so far I think we're going to see more of that and I was aware of it at the time a lot of the stuff wasn't a secret it's amazing to have it brought back let Jerry Krause I guess you could build a laboratory and say that if he was worried that the bass is got a tip was going by that the way to extend the window of that player rather than lose him for nothing which essentially did they traded him for like a second round pick in Roy Rogers I guess you could say that the laboratory we don't live in a laboratory and if you look at the the dynasties that have followed they have played till the very end if you look at all the warriors they broke up after a loss in the finals the heat a loss in the finals the cats a loss in the finals everybody runs till the wheels fall off because they all remember the mistake of Jerry Krause enough his team play until they had until they took a lot and the wheels were not falling off Scotty Pippin in any way if you take a look at the numbers there's no question Scotty.

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"jerry krause" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

07:14 min | 8 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"A Sunday night we saw the first two episodes of the last dance general manager Jerry Krause the late Jerry Krause not sure the most favorable of light of course in this documentary earlier on the will Cain show if you watched a documentary right now two episodes in the villain is clear it's Jerry Krause but it's so clear that I become skeptical is this feels one sided although he helped build that bulls dynasty trade for Scotty Pippin and help create a team that would end up winning six NBA finals he's also the guy as we're told so far whose ego in inability to give credit or just let all the credit goes to Phil Jackson in the player's destroyed the whole project I almost wonder if there's a twist coming because here's the thing I think Jordan is a really complicated individual and I'm not sure by the end of this that he does come out entirely her ROIC I'm not sure he does come out without some of that villain label attached to him as well ESPN analyst Jay Williams was drafted by the bulls post dynasty was drafted in two thousand two Jerry happening up and in a lot of those guys did at that time the jury's ego felt like he was one of the masterminds and never got the credit for putting this whole thing together was a right no the way he went about going about doing it was that right no but I I understand a little bit from spending time you know it might my year Chicago Jerry and I had a lot of conversations and there's a lot of contrite about some of the mistakes that he had made through that run and how he wanted to do things right this time we learned a lot through the first couple of episodes of the last dance Sunday night to the guy's a PTI well sorry I know this is simple but I just like seeing him sit there with a cigar and just talking about his life in in his career M. and what happened in we're going to see that over the ensuing episodes as well let's only the thing is everybody in a virtually everybody from magic and Charles Barkley so Tom Brady and Peyton manning we see and hear from them all the time whether it's commercial shack is in our house like every hour imagic is learn to juggle television and and and and social media masterfully we see all the other great icons we have not seen or heard from Michael and I think that's strikes me even more than sort of how badly management Jerry Krause treated Scotty Pippin and some other things like that the nuts and bolts of that year and the years preceding it what better than all that for me is that I want to hear Michael tell a story I want to hear Michael other people have told it I've been involved in that he's cooperating with the couple journal book but I want to hear Michael Jordan I'm give me here that I like that so two things stood out for me two questions that out for me and then a comment the first question is why did Jerry Krause want to get rid of Phil Jackson and more importantly why did Jerry Reinsdorf let that happen they were five and Alwyn championships you can't do much better than that my second question is why after all this time Michael Jordan's been sitting on this tape for over twenty years why after all this time did he decide I'm going to let this go you can answer either of them if you can the other comment that got is pretty simple I was blown away by the Bobby knight stuff the Michael Jordan has not played one game in the NBA not one game he's on the Olympic team and Bobby knight says he's the best basketball player I've ever seen I'm sorry and he said matter of factly so take any of these things and talk well sorted magic and bird is so people can say whatever they want they can just be sort of delusional about what the best player is and the greatest people involved in basketball over the last forty years and you just named one of the night you know magic magic in early early Saturday after he'd been in the league here's a link going back to the point played a game I know one but let's go back to cross because you and I talked about this on your podcast this morning Jerry Krause he's he's deceased he's gone you want to just be able to just sort of glossed over education and and they also covered the the bulls for the sun times said it best we saw him a little man complex is low fat guy in the room and people he just annoyed everybody with this because it's at the crux of the conflict Krouse also twenty was really good at what he did put that team together but he was good pride goeth before the fall he got to be such an ego maniac but what about athletes eagles crosses eagle was run amok and then he thought that he was responsible for these championships as Jordan and Pippen Phil Jackson even though he wasn't here to rebuild it and I'll give you all of that yeah Jerry Reinsdorf let him because Mike if Tom Brady were to win the Super Bowl the question is going to be why didn't Robert Kraft stop this from happening so that's what I'm asking about Reinsdorf's teams players only outside because it worked I think good cop bad cop and a jury you know look Michael just went right past Jerry Krause we negotiated when he came back he was trying to Jerry Reinsdorf and so I don't know but didn't he and Scott he maybe didn't have that relationship what Krauss I know again of god can speak for himself comes off as a villain but only he was the villain yeah sorry I I believe that I believe what what what what Phil and Michael and Scottie believed to a great degree about Jerry Krause and you're you're right rise was let it happen but only that central conflict that is what makes the last dance what it is when we get to that last season so long is that call your early point it is great for me to see Michael Jordan on television as an active player and now talking about himself he has insane charisma yeah buddy can look good in a highlight reel Mike Michael Jordan has actual charisma the last dance the story of the bulls dynasty of the nineties as seen through the all access pass of the final season of that dynasty continues on Sunday nine o'clock eastern on ESPN radio straight ahead the pros and yes more cons of cold nineteen sports are only continues the S. P. N. radio we go NFL mock draft continues this week with takes twenty one through twenty four I can speak on the clock at nine eastern this morning on ESPN radio Capen company one of my favorite guys I state records because those teams deserve to know that they were going to be in the support he said everyone who's a senior guys and gals to come back.

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"jerry krause" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

WGR 550 Sports Radio

06:26 min | 8 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio

"Reynolds Thursday a Sunday night we saw the first two episodes of the last dance general manager Jerry Krause the late Jerry Krause not shown the most favorable of light of course in this documentary earlier on the will Cain show if you watched a documentary right now to associate the villain is clear it's Jerry Krause but it's so clear that I become skeptical is this feels one sided although he helped build that bulls dynasty trade for Scotty Pippin and help create a team that would end up winning six NBA finals he's also the guy as were told so far whose ego in inability to give credit or just let all the credit go to Phil Jackson in the player's destroyed the whole project but I almost wonder there's a twist coming because here's the thing I think Jordan is a really complicated individual and I'm not sure by the end of this that he does come out entirely her ROIC I'm not sure he does come out without some of that villain label attached to him as well ESPN analyst Jay Williams was drafted by the bulls post dynasty was drafted in two thousand two Jerry has an ego and in a lot of those guys did at that time the jury's ego felt like he was one of the masterminds and never got the credit for putting this whole thing together wasn't right no the way he went about going about doing it was that right no but I I understand a little bit from spending time you know it might my year Chicago Jerry and I had a lot of conversations and there's a lot of contrite about some of the mistakes that he had made through that run and how he wanted to do things right this time we learned a lot through the first couple of episodes of the last dance Sunday night to the guy's a PTI well tell me how do I know this is simple but I just like seeing him sit there with a cigar and just talking about his life and his career M. and what happened in and we're going to see that over the ensuing episodes as well let's only the thing is everybody in a virtually everybody from magic and Charles Barkley so Tom Brady and Peyton manning we see and hear from them all the time whether it's commercial shack is in our house like every hour imagic is learn to juggle television and and and and social media masterfully we see all the other great icons we have not seen or heard from Michael and I think that's strikes me even more than sort of how badly management Jerry Krause treated Scotty Pippin and some other things like that the nuts and bolts of that year and the years preceding it better than all that for me is that I want to hear Michael tell a story I want to hear Michael other people have told it I've been involved in that he's cooperating with the couple journal book but I want to hear Michael Jordan I'm getting here that I like that so two things stood out for me two questions that out for me and then a comment the first question is why did Jerry Krause want to get rid of Phil Jackson and more important to me why did Jerry Reinsdorf let that happen they were five in all win championships you can't do much better than that my second question is why after all this time Michael Jordan's been sitting on this tape for over twenty years why after all this time did he decide I'm going to let this go you can answer either of them if you can the other comment I've got is pretty simple I was blown away by the Bobby knight stuff the Michael Jordan has not played one game in the NBA not one game he's on the Olympic team and Bobby knight says he's the best basketball player I've ever seen I'm not sure and he said matter of factly so take any of these things and talk well sort of magic and bird is so people can say whatever they want they can just be sort of delusional about what the best player is in a greatest people involved in basketball over the last forty years and you just named one of all night you know magic magic in early early Saturday after he didn't believe he was in a way going back to the floor and play the game I know it is not the one but let's go back to cross because you and I talked about this in your pocket this morning Jerry Krause he's he's deceased he's gone you want to just be able to just sort of glossed over and U. K. and and and one real soon covered the the bulls for the sun times said it best we saw him a little man complex is low fat guy in the room and pick people he just annoyed everybody with this because it's at the crux of the conflict Krouse also twenty was really good at what he did put that team together but he was good pride goeth before the fall he got to be such an ego maniac but what about athletes eagles crosses eagle was run amok and and he thought that he was responsible for these championships as Jordan and Pippen Phil Jackson even though he wasn't getting to rebuild it and I'll give you all of that yeah Jerry Reinsdorf let him because the road Mike if Tom Brady were to win the Super Bowl the question is going to be why didn't Robert Kraft stop this from happening so that's what I'm asking about Reinsdorf clearance clearance only outside because it worked I think good cop bad cop and and Jerry you know look Michael just went right past Jerry Krause when he negotiated when he came back he was trying to Jerry Reinsdorf and so I don't know but didn't he and Scott he maybe didn't have that relationship what Krauss I know again the guy we can't speak for himself comes off as a villain but only he was the villain yeah sorry I I believe that I believe what what what what Phil and Michael and Scottie believed to a great degree about Jerry Krause and you rewrite rise was let it happen but only that central conflict that is what makes the last dance what it is when we get to that last season so all do stucco your early point it is great for me to see Michael Jordan on television as an active player and now talking about himself he has insane charisma yeah everybody can look good in a highlight reel Mike but Michael Jordan has actual charisma the last dance the story of the bulls dynasty of the nineties as seen through the all access pass of the final season of that dynasty.

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"jerry krause" Discussed on KTKR 760AM

KTKR 760AM

01:51 min | 8 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on KTKR 760AM

"Strange time and you know we're making phone calls and and reaching out in a way we never have but for Michael Jordan there's a little bit of that that goes into it too because we all remember that Sunday morning with Kobe Bryant how things changed and yes there's the lebron factor that everybody wants to side or the warriors and they're super team for a couple of years but it's also a here's another you generation of sneaker buyers and Gatorade drinkers and McDonald's eaters and everybody else that it remind Hey you know as much as you love your guys now there's always the man who would be staying with the capital K. there so with with this first there's a couple of things that are coming off of this I want to talk about that that people are not they're missing but they're focusing on the fact okay Jerry Krause is the villain a lot of a Jerry Krause was the GM of the bulls is clearly painted as the villain and I remember Jerry Krause you look up I was in my mid to late twenties when the bulls winning and I knew Jerry Krause was at odds with Phil Jackson with Michael Jordan nobody liked him right he was the generally passed away a couple years ago general manager that nobody liked but still the bulls were able to survive he drafted Scotty Pippen he drafted Horace grant he also made some bad moves as well it's a bad draft picks but clearly he's given credit he's the one that wanted Phil Jackson to come coach the team in the beginning and end he is but he's the guy in this that is boy look at him because he's bent on a rebuild the big quote for the first episode telling Phil Jackson I don't care if you win eighty two games this year you're not the bleeping coach after this year he wanted Phil Jackson gone because he couldn't work with Phil Jackson anymore that was that was the big thing right Sir Gerry crawl space and I get it but here's what I don't understand because.

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"jerry krause" Discussed on The HoopsHype Podcast With Alex Kennedy

The HoopsHype Podcast With Alex Kennedy

11:29 min | 8 months ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on The HoopsHype Podcast With Alex Kennedy

"But you know we never knew why like you'd think sometimes when when you look at athletes entertainers you can simplify their stories to something. That is straight ahead and I think that the relationship with his brother Larry for so many years has been simplified to just being a raw determination to be better than Larry because he was this guy was born with this you know ultra competitive gene in him in reality is is more to it than that as you know a young man wanting to be further accepted by his father in all ties in and I think for me what it did was make Michael Jordan and more relatable than he's been pass. I mean like no one's Michael. No one's even close and it's so hard thing maybe that's why he's such a such an icon in. Sucha a subject that always gets everyone's attention because he's he's of another world and you not relatable even it once best is hard to sustain a Jordan level of anything In seeing him and hearing him speak about things that we all can relate to in how that tied into how tied into his journey. I think for me that was cool to see a little bit of vulnerability in to understand the context of it because look I know a lot of people say that they can relate to. I got compromised team. The difference between Jordan got cut as a freshman and I never tried out again. I I I just vowed like I've never played for this coach. Who is absolutely ridiculous? You know myself I'm buried James. We clearly the two best freshman should have been on the team and we got cut cut. I I got cut cut. I wasn't even on. Jv Now they did ask me later that year in declined the invitation they might got cut from Varsity so he did play high school board but he played. Jv shaved process. Not Really. That's not really cut you a part of the program. You just not where you WANNA be in. A lot of people can relate to being sold next year. You'll be all varsity but finagle Bill J. V. so I always thought. The story was a bit over overstated but I could appreciate the context at he gave in terms of you know the competition with his brother in how that tied into everything else. I thought that was cool. Because I've never seen a Michael Jordan opened in vulnerable. Just it really humanized him in a sense because you know that you you you've never seen him talk about that and and it makes you want to see more because if you get the feeling like after all these years in so many people you know telling his story that he's now going to tell his story his way the way he sees it and he's GonNa offer perspective and I think you can get with that because anytime you know. Some of that statute is very rare. Someone best actor does a real true deep dive into their story to journey struggles their insecurities or whatever the case may be You know you wanNA come along for the ride and You Know Barack with Mike for Thirty plus years so it's not no. Yeah I mean I think like you said showing him being vulnerable. I think they did a great job of not only getting the interview and having this kind of access but clearly he was comfortable and his guard was down and he was being open and like you said and like I mean. Obviously he wasn't born this way where he was just this crazy competitor. Area was interesting to kind of see where that came from and how his family kind of held it was more nurture versus nature. It seems like so it was interesting to see the back story there but I wanna get you one. One person that I've seen a lot of people talking about on twitter One of the big things have come from this. Is Jerry Krause now? It seems like he's kind of being positioned as the villain here Pushing Phil Jackson out trying to break up the team. I know a lot of people I saw even some NBA players especially young NBA players. Wondering you know why were the bowles trying to break that team up M J yes pippin this it almost? It's interesting to kind of see some of these young players where they clearly don't know much about this era And they're kind of learning and and wondering. Why was that team being broken up? And they're surprised even now so it's kind of fun to watch certain you know young people learn about this for the first time and and kind of go through it. That's been one of the cool things but Jerry. Krause you know. Obviously there's the famous quote players and coaches. Don't win championships organizations when championships now. He says he was misquoted. But and that he was trying to give credit people behind the scenes but pretty clear that he wanted more credit for assembling dynasty. Michael Scottie fill. Were clashing with him. I mean they're openly mocking him to his face in the documentary talking about his height talking about his weight and I can see where he's coming from. He's probably thinking you know. Screw these guys if I can build another dynasty without Mj and Scottie and Phil all be viewed as a genius so you can kind of see where he's coming from but he just seemed a lot of people the wrong way. No you can't draft Michael Jordan. Right as for now he was he was pretty good. Gm He got some things right So you have to give him credit for that but again. It's it's easy to build around Jordan wants to nucleus is set. I think that you know the best thing he he did was Scotty Seeing Scotty. And then the development of Scotty a horse graduate degree even though Dennis Rodman was there for for the last three You know he found Toni Kukoc so he he was a GM but he he wasn't this genius that he thought so again on the EGO. The EGO will allow you to cut off your nose. Spite your face in do crazy stuff is to eagle. So you have Phil who at the time is regarded as greatest coach of all time? You have Michael. Jordan is considered to be the greatest player of all time. You have the team. That's argued as the greatest team of all time but krause's not considered to be the greatest general manager of all time and I think that always you know tore at his ego riot because it it makes no sense at all as difficult as it as it is to win a championship. When you have now only these guys winning championships right but the Bulls as a as a franchise or incredibly profitable right like everybody wants a piece of the of the balls. Anything with Mike was face on Dennis space on the Saudis face. I mean Hell Gerald Stone John. Paxson people love the Chicago Bulls. They were money printing machine. There's no reason for you to be in the rush to break that up to prove that you can do it again like you continue to build on it because what gets lost in this whole thing. I think that the crime of Jerry. Krause speak ill because he he has passed. I think that the crime of it all is we get into a lot of hypotheticals. What happens if Mike doesn't go and play Baseball Right? So we know he's caused a whole lot more points. He reaches thirty thousand points a lot quicker than than he did in. Maybe they get to championships. You know maybe they don't i. I definitely think they get one of. I'm one. That believes that once Michael. Learn how to win he was never GONNA lose. But the crime of Jerry. Krause situation in the last dance is the season. The you know the the shortened season they the ninety eight ninety nine season because they absolutely would have won the title that year. No doubt about it and again because the ego is pushing you in a direction to prove that you can build a team is dominant in his profitable. Is the one that you currently have that? You can just add pieces to take care Scotty and to make sure that the pieces around Scotty and Michael still work where they can be competitive right because you had you had at least another three years left in them to be competing for championships. They'd Ashley would have won a championship. In a short season. No question it would have been the easiest of the the three P. Championships for you to rip all that down. For what like it makes no sense as hard as it was for them to get there and he was a part of that he was he was a part of losing to the Pistons Year after year after year he was a part of finally breaking through and going to La and winning in five games he was there in the locker room with them with the champagne and also it was beautiful and I think that at some point in time his ego may hit from get about the genesis of the relationship in a row he played like you should have been comfortable in the accomplishments that we're in front of you and stop looking accepted in some other capacity or be accepted on a level of Jordan or pippen or Jackson. It just wasn't going to happen and that's fine. You don't have to be the end of the day you have a resume. Resume speaks for itself. You you are essentially the architect of a dynasty. That should be good enough. What it's not right and that's the ironic thing too. I mean had he just sat back and not let his ego kind of get the best of him and lied to him breaking this team up obviously now. Have you talked about Jerry Krause? He's remembered as the guy that broke up the Bulls Dynasty. And have you just sat back? And maybe they win another championship or two. Then you know. He's looked at as assembling this great team letting it run its course and then we talk about his championships and the job you did. But instead he had to insert himself into it. You had to have the friction with Jackson where you know he gives him a one. You know one more year and says no matter what happens. You're out after this year. He clashes with MJ class. It was Scotty Pippin. I mean he really couldn't get out of his own way. The hardest part was done. You had the dynasty assembled. Now just run it out and win as much as you can and then then go from there once. It's Kinda time everyone is moved on. Then you can start to rebuild and see what you can do and to be clear when I was saying you know you can see what he said where he was coming from. I don't agree with him at all. I think it was foolish today. He's coming from. I don't I don't understand with communist is necessary. Well thought he was a genius. No he wasn't he was a good year. We went genes clearly. Thought he was though and he wasn't might look man when Michael Jordan in and a lot of people get it twisted because they they they really don't understand how great Michael Jordan was basketball. A great doesn't even do it justice. I think with with hints. Scotty you really coulda plug anyone around him and they would have been okay so while I'll give Jerry Krause credit for for being a GM. Because look I mean we signed by some daily on you know that that that The the ninety six ninety seven hundred ninety six ninety seven ninety seven on the the the ninety six hundred seventeen sixty nine and thirteen was good at even better than seventy two cents. I mean they. They were good. They were really good. It would one seventy games again back to back years. They lost like a game winning shots in the next last game of the season it was sixty nine. Thirteen eighteen team was good again. He was a good gm but that ego trying to. I'm trying to be respectful of a of a man that has passed away really at the end of the day. Very selfish man. It would seem that you would really jeopardize your own or so. If.

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Michael Jordan series on ESPN moved up to April

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01:19 min | 8 months ago

Michael Jordan series on ESPN moved up to April

"Sunday night ESPN will begin a ten week series entitled the last dance which chronicles in nineteen ninety eight Chicago Bulls championship season the last of six NBA titles by the Michael Jordan led bulls Jordan joined ABC's Good Morning America to preview this year he says nineteen ninety eight was a crime what was a trying year we all we're trying to enjoy the year knowing that it was coming to an end you know the again this season a bit basically started when Jerry Krause to build it you know we can go eighty two and we we you would never get the chance to come back and you know knowing that I was not I married myself to him you know obviously and if he was going to be a coach then you know I wish I was going to play so Phil started off the year by saying this is the last chance and we played it that way knowing that Jackson would not be back him telling the team that this is yet gave the club the extra motivation they would need mentally it's just kind of it tugged at you throughout the course of the year you know but that this had to come to an end but it also sit atop focus to making sure we get that right they did the bulls ended up sixty two and twenty they beat the jazz four games to two in the NBA finals Jordan hit the game winning shot over Byron Russell to clinch it

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Jordan says winning 6th NBA title with Bulls was 'trying year' on ESPN documentary

KCBS 24 Hour News

00:50 sec | 8 months ago

Jordan says winning 6th NBA title with Bulls was 'trying year' on ESPN documentary

"Sunday night ESPN will begin a ten week series entitled the last dance which chronicles in nineteen ninety eight Chicago Bulls championship season the last of six NBA titles by the Michael Jordan led bulls Jordan joined ABC's Good Morning America to preview the series since nineteen ninety eight was a crime what was a trying year we all we're trying to enjoy the year knowing that it was coming to an end you know to begin the season at the basically started when Jerry Krause told bill that you know we can go eighty two and we we you would never get the chance to come back and you know knowing that I was not I married myself to him you know obviously and if he was going to be a coach then you know I was showing the place so Phil started off the year by saying this is the last dance and then we

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"jerry krause" Discussed on Oprah's SuperSoul Conversations

Oprah's SuperSoul Conversations

01:45 min | 3 years ago

"jerry krause" Discussed on Oprah's SuperSoul Conversations

"Well the general manager the time jerry krause said these these guys are are going after something they don't really know one of is no one around here has one chicago's never won one he wanted them to have a symbol of what the ultimate goal is goal is an about being the best score being this being in the all star team or anything else goals about when you championship and do that everybody's got a sacrifice give a little bit more of them cells in the process of bonding together and making this hewlett a cohesive group you talk about penneteau juren's buck uh start where you are where one of the things that she states is that what you do for yourself any gesture of kindness gentleness honesty and clear seeing towards self will affect how you experience the world that's what she writes what you do for yourself you're doing for others what you do for others you're doing for yourself and you say this idea would later become a key building block in your work as a coach how so we had a statement that we must have repeated so many times to the players um no man is an island noman goes his way alone where they put into the lives of others will come back into its own in your that those words sometimes are difficult for the boys to here so that i would say do you understand what i'm saying no man goes his way alone we're in this how weather able to do that in i don't even know what to describe because i was in chicago during all of those years where michael jordan wise a guide.

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