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NFL Week 5 Picks-Picks-Picks (Against the Spread)

Boomer & Gio

07:21 min | 11 months ago

NFL Week 5 Picks-Picks-Picks (Against the Spread)

"Smoked beef brisket with Nashville hot seasoning it's topped with melted pepper Jack at our sweet and Tangy slob served piping hot on a toasted corn bread roll yeah a corner are you hungry for the usual today for you ready to spice things up with the new Nashville Heart brisket from firehouse ups we're kicking up our slows the Broncos to win the game bad locked so far they get some good luck on Sunday Gimme the Broncos division game on the road no Bradley Chubb Linzie Emmanuel Sanders There's going to be enough guys on offense to get the job done they will cover this spread it may be field goal game or the chargers win but I actually even have underwhelmed me a little bit I thought that they were great not great they're very good but the steelers are not the steelers that we saw on Monday night you still saved their season on Monday night they really did and I do think as a home dog against a team that has given up over five hundred yards of offense collapsed nominate irregardless got one hundred off just checking when I got here I I'm GonNa read these it's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo Hugh Money boomer sixteen four feet ten and ten Jerry Ten ten we've got five games including the jets and giants at the end Jerry a healing that this is a game in an atmosphere that isn't an atmosphere with the chargers at soccer stadium that Joe Flacco the broncos Phillips what do we got here we go game number one ravens in Pittsburgh against the steelers the steelers getting more than if you'll go three and a half and I tell you the Baltimore game and number two Bronco's in La against the chargers the chargers giving up six and a half and the broncos had a lot of bad lot early on and I haven't four one weeks and then a five week Jerry and I under five hundred last week but five hundred for the year and that's still okay we are not losing tweet game number three at and T. Stadium in Arlington Dallas cowboys giving up three and a half points to Aaron Rodgers and the packers man I tell you I've stew weeks like the Ravens have done with the steelers with the points I'm Reid the boomer train I didn't like the way they played against the cardinals at home to the Ravens I'm taking steelers with the points as well Ravens get back on track with a dominant performance this while I think that they weighed by a touchdown or more at Heinz field you I think that's the the the bengals that team still has the pensively Mason we're not gonNA have the Andre Johnson Warner wide open every game because bengals had no idea what they're doing on Defense Fox alternative out I spoke mixer brought to you by brother supply you know what source rice air PTACS water source heat pumps fan coils by REX real sixteen in the beginning of the season eight another four and one week and he's actually only lost two games in the last three weeks so we said how's cowboys team is going to be right up there as an NFC championship contender regardless of what happens down the superdome there against the saint there defensively the DENVER broncos he's out for the ACL so that's one of the better pass rushers is missing I think this game will be tight vic fangio's deem as played a tougher I'd love the cowboys every single week this year as it worked out for the every single week for the saints bed and like them again I think they're a really good team I think that this so it's three and a half for the for the for the packers packers getting three and a half you know so the the cowboys scored a hundred points in her first three games against also ran. Samsung blaming I'm assuming he's not the jets don't have a chance again this is another game where they don't have a chance I can we do this we say Sam it may only two percents sell your home and by prop swap okay boomer has been on a roll with the mix the generals out there listen up because this guy has been another law there glad handing of band on people what's your first story which got oh it's football picks todd Jerry fought every single game that they played I picked that they will cover the number however I'd be the chargers will win I'll take the broncos with the six and a half ago should have a couple of wins they don't they get one getting five and a half points at home a two and two football team the savior is here giants are going to cover this Jones is the real deal I'm taking giants I think the Vikings win this weekend beat the giants I've been on the giants last couple of weeks I take the vikings minus the five and a half they win it there's too much turmoil out there with the Minnesota Vikings and they're gonNA pay some adversity early on his game and then everybody is going to start read roll save time order your new Nashville Hot brisket on the firehouse subs zapped today firehouse subs enjoy more subs- save more lives participating locations limited time only it's the warm up show and by forty five with Alan Jerry L. Doing Oh hi Jerry Hill who were coming back I'll take the packers on the road and the points cowboys going to fifteen in one this year can't do that without this week cowboys and a route Game number four the jets and turn it on each other and Mike Zimmer is going to lose control the team and Kirk cousins get stabbed in the back by everybody and then people are GonNa be screaming and Gary Kubiak it's going to be a disaster doesn't mean they can't win thanks J. I don't think they have any chance to win and I think it might not even be that close late touchdown back door cover I take the jets and then you get the vikings at the giants the giant. I'm on a quarterback against the eagles the eagles giving up almost almost two touchdowns eagles minus thirteen and a half I hate the fact that the pickiness game we don't the giants you gotTa keep this game closer GonNa give the vikings a big scare that's a big number and I feel like Pat Shurmur is GonNa play the disrespect card in this one emperor's team teams talk about the defense the linebackers Dak Prescott playing his best football they get back on track offensively against the packers defense. I like the cowboys in this league will tweeted out but if if Luke Fox playing the spread can't be big enough I mean it it it could be going up your mind is seventy two and a half and I ran into a good team what happened they had smack compensate wilted it'll built they wilted they wilted you will they did. I hope two victories giant I just felt like we went through Vikings therapy session. Yeah I'm just GONNA take the giants I'm a name is Graham eight to say it but that's just the reality of the right I'm with him a Matt Ryan if Luke Falk is playing I'm thinking I'm going to take the jets with the Asia go one way and Sam does it go the other way you know that so ramble changed off Santa Take it with the number Sunday morning all right now that are Jonah here that the victim read too.

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Oct 10, 2019: Turkey's Offensive In Syria; Jimmy Fallon On Kids And Comedy

Here & Now

43:37 min | 10 months ago

Oct 10, 2019: Turkey's Offensive In Syria; Jimmy Fallon On Kids And Comedy

"From NPR and WBZ. I'm Peter o'dowd I'm Jeremy Hobson it's here now. Turkish ground forces seized at least one village from Kurdish fighters in northern Syria today the area is being pounded with air strikes and artillery Turkey launched the offensive yesterday after president trump said he was pulling American troops out of the region joining us of thousands of missiles along Israel's border with Lebanon and there's now Iran along the Syrian border with Israel and there is Lee uncomfortable first of all their government is in some free fall but in addition to that Iran now has a permission slip to be active in US given a great big permission slip to Turkey Russia and Iran plus the Syrian government which as we see all over increasingly supportive of it I'm just hearing about the polls but nonetheless my my point is that Ninety Republican or Ninety Senator Syria and Iran also so reports are saying is giving kits to Hezbollah fighters along the Lebanese border with Israel invasion now day two into northern Syria. It's hard to make anything sensible of it I think that President Trump's decision was process free one was Nixon and I was a member of Congress during Clinton they had very different results but nonetheless it's a very painful and serious remedy and the country is is a long Syrian border adjacent to Israel and Israelis are now freaking out the Israelis are now forget you're hearing that yes I'm hearing that they're enormous it's a possibility and I'm not a cheerleader for impeachment I think it's a very rough thing to happen in the United States period and I have seen two of them been willing to criticize him on what's happening with Turkey but they have not been willing to criticize them many of them on the call with Ukraine I'm just saying to turn what were dumb missiles aimed at Israel into a precision guided munitions meaning they can be targeted precisely if there are ten Tehran calling for the United Nation of Israel. If I were in Israel I'd be pretty worried so obviously just based on what you've just said this gets very complicated he consulted no one after it Mick Mulvaney who apparently was in his office with him or wherever we made the phone call had to scramble to tell the Secretary of defense very quickly Turkeys and such an important place in the Middle East and also neighbouring Europe and I want to ask you about something else involving that in the course of the consequences in the United States Senate which is at the moment looking at this other things starts with I that's going on in Washington DC and if Lindsay it's not all Republicans but certainly a majority you'd think of both the Republicans and the Democrats in the Senate for sure are questioning this policy which will have Graham is right that eighty five to ninety senators opposed this action he's just made a whole bunch of folks a wonder about whether he should be since it was process free the consequences are enormous and their enormous in two levels one is the consequences in the region and with our allies but the second president you think that what's going on right now in Syria has an effect on whether Republicans are going to support the president unimpeachable because so far the airwaves has been seriously torturing and massacring and using chemical gas on its people to do whatever they want and in case anybody missed it president trump is saying he saying I said we would pull our troops out then we told Turkey not to move in well we created a vacuum and I as I see this we have to very serious ramifications in the Middle East the White House says it did not give Turkey's president the green light for this offensive jubilee that well that's what and the three point six million Syrian refugees in Turkey to Europe if European countries labeled the country's military incursion in Syria as an occupation has been porous over the years which is how some Europeans ended up in Syria as ISIS fighters. Some of those folks are in prison numbers all of the refugee crises that have happened the last few years Turkey has taken in millions of people and today the President Air John said that Oscar will send my mouth can't be further open listening to this let's also understand that the Turkish border with Syria words so let's imagine some of those Isis fighters go back into Europe through Turkey target Europe and through Europe target us then what have we done what is president with them are probably of European origin if those prisons aren't guarded and the Turks are much less interested in Isis than they are in stopping the Kerr due to deal with this problem or is it too late well it's late but it's never too late they could come back from recess and let them come in and put their ingenuity and and vote behind stopping it that is former congresswoman Jane Harman President and CEO of the wilsons if Lindsey Graham is right that ninety of them really oppose this policy instead of just having a free ride to criticize it from afar several things they have tools to block all aid to Turkey that would get turkeys attention another thing they could do would be to de authorize president trump's action and it says to prevent wildfires during a week of strong winds but many people are still in the dark and they don't know yet when their power will come back on Democrats jumped on has increased he is revived an increase the menace from Isis. So what would your message be to people in Congress right now is there anything that they can do state Senator Jerry Hill joins us now he represents San Mateo and Santa Clara counties senator what kind of burden have these outages put on people well on estimates over two billion dollars in fiscal loss and the personal burden for people who can't go to work restaurants and are always great to talk with you thank you Jeremy -fornia now were outrage is building after the utility PG any cut power to hundreds of thousands of customers frigerator hospitals places that rely on this power dialysis centers are are really struggling so it's the personal impact is so many people and a Fiji any an unhappy letter calling for a review of Public Safety Power Shut offs which is what these are called but senator can you explain who is responsible for making this decision because it sounds like PG NI is following rules that have been set out by the state or at least has permission from the state to do it reacting isn't the bigger issue here far beyond these outages that a state the size of California is relying on outdated electrical grids they absolutely do have permission the safety of these investor on utilities and the power that they distribute is up to them in terms of making that crucial they don't want any more wildfires especially PG who is currently in bankruptcy because of wildfires of the last two years so they will make the decision unilaterally without outages earlier this week no one is satisfied with this no one is happy with this this can't be the co cost for normalcy going forward this has to be resolved and we have to get through that are known to start deadly fires that kill people how do you fix that problem will in that is a major problem we are the fifth largest economy in the world safety has never been a priority and the bottom line has been the priority and are they doing this to protect for the exposure to liability invested we have provided the funds and resources to them they've not invested the money into the infrastructure the fires the major fires last year destroy fifteen thousand the lights come back on this time that might just be a couple of days or a couple of weeks until it happens again because we're in the height of fire season and this isn't getting any better agency what do you make of the argument that no matter how inconvenient these outages are and they are very inconvenient that it is worth it if they save lives correct in that is exactly what may happen and that's why the Public Utilities Commission needs to take some aggressive action to to monitor to a root causes business and professional impact of any people and we're hearing reaction from politicians around the state including yourself but also a California Governor Gavin Newsom said this about the analysis on what would occur during this last few days because it is totally unacceptable the communication has been wrought with challenges and that's why people or are they doing it in the best interest of the community that's what we don't know that's what we need to find out as we move through this fire season didn't people should be prepared that once the decision of whether to power on power off in that's the challenge that we're faced with is because PG needed in any utility would be very you know they want to be cautious and we're happy and as a third world nation right now in the Third World State this utility of for the past many years twenty thirty years has not we've done a deep dive series on education and all episodes are available to binge now listen to on point now on NPR one or wherever you get your podcasts any oversight or review and that's why I sent the letter do you think they've gone too far well I don't know I and I can't make that decision and that's why I think we need the regular her of this these utilities to step in and monitor and not necessarily make the decision because the on the ground is the best place but to oversee to make sure that they're not over uh-huh entire city was lost that fire was caused by a one hundred year old transmission tower so you can blame PG and utility for this you also we also have the I magna tougher bardy one of the hosts of on point the NPR show that takes you behind the headlines including one that is out this week it's called this is baby and Jimmy Fallon joins us from New York welcome Jeremy Thank you so much for having me I really appreciate and I have to say you probably know Jimmy Fallon as host of the tonight show on NBC trump told his staff to do whatever it takes to stop anyone from saying anything that could endanger his presidency claim the regulator the California Public Utilities Commission for not doing their job over the years and we are reforming those that agency now to make sure that it is responsive and they data I instead it was that a real competition but secretly it is I mean you kind of want the baby to say data I I did it book called you babies first word it'll be data and I did it as a funding because I really wanted my daughters when crazy and I started getting videos from people saying like hey my kids actually reading the book back to me and then it got good luck out there thank you very much measure we need this cutie season which remember we're in the Pico and last night You sent a letter to the California Public Utilities Commission this is the agency that oversees and it really changed my life I loved it 'cause it was about a kid that kept striking out at baseball and he kinda got bullied and then at one point he got hit at the end of the of the story I think he told me and my brand like keep trying Leno long I'm I'm a genius and this one by the way is is all about the body parts of a baby this baby knows these are babies is yeah read three books to my kids before they go sleep and it's tough at some point you go dude I can't read anymore I'm actually news and tweets from teachers saying Jimmy It's actually this book is actually pretty good like kids are actually finding the conference people around me and and and to be able to have had a career in this business it's like a I've been NBC for twenty years we're so upset and frustrated by jury hill is a democratic state senator the represents Silicon Valley in California senator thanks so much time and then instead of saying okay and duct taped his mouth what you might not know is that fallon is also the author of a number of picture books for parents and their young children have a job that for many people in some of your predecessors it was like the the career ending job that they had that they made it by the time they got to the tonight show what to do with this one is like I just wanted to make it fun I mean I can speak for tired parents out there and I am tired parent and I usually he's in the headlines every day for a reason no matter what you say but the sky and you've like him hate him he's he's he's in the I so I did this book where everything is like I mean when I talk to my daughter I give her bottles of milk and whatever I and I go down well it it would be worth it and it if it's saving lives but the problem is with this until after the fact that it is owned by Wall Street hedge funds and in reading the they actually enjoy reading books you're making a smart child and I was like Oh my God of course of course that's what it is how does that feel now 'cause you're only in your forties to have that role I mean it's it's the best I mean I'm very lucky to have you know it's fun go to sleep and this is a knowing this awful so this book you can read in twenty seconds or you can read for twenty minutes it's up to you the first book was like Dad Dad Mood that I- quack dad at all different animal sounds and what happened was it sold two million copies or something and and and don't give up okay so then let me then transition to asking you about the fact that you right now yeah I've been there that long or it's like what it's weird and I still got years to go did feel like a different time right now I mean we we're doing it conversation every single day and so you can make other jokes but the headlines are him and I would say you're the first dad you want data I mean I don't care if she's stupid I go well she'll figure it out so she'll be smart one day but I just wanted to I wear to be data so the book is and I'm happy that social media exists because people get to watch your stuff and get to see your your bits I remember my my producer Gavin it's hosted the tonight show that has really had to think about social media in a big way in terms of what you're doing does that is that as important to you the things that will be on care what any research personal tell you I'll be the first person to say there is no connection from social media to linear Viewing do you remember what you what you read when you were a young kid yeah there was one book no one likes it no one knows it it's called here comes the strike out I don't have kids but I had no idea that you were moonlighting as a New York Times bestselling picture book author I did it as a goof the can make about Obama and this guy now is just every day he he knows what he's doing by the way he actually knows show business it's crazy it makes no sense it's like I feel like I'm still a kid you know but I'm not I'm forty five but it's like I'm like Al Roker I can't it's not the Obama era which was all I knew was the Obama era and I loved it and we make jokes about him that is they go what a yeah of course I have fans from Germany from Dubai and you like where do you see me is it on like television Sky TV Youtube and it's like wow I it's sad to say the TV's dying but it's kind of dying talk to different people every day and I enjoy following what's going on in the world but you're doing that in in a similar way different I mean does it feel different to you right now does it feel deal there's eighteen year olds as thirteen year olds watching tonight show online They they have no idea what television is like they understand what it fun of him what we were like Khaki Pants with that was the joke of him look hilarious that dad jeans right that was the biggest jokey million people now follow me on twitter and I don't think it leads into the tonight show that much a two hour a day news program and obviously the last couple of years have been different than than ever before but you you hate what you're doing you know I I love it I mean it's interesting dot Org Jimmy because I I don't really I don't have a radio in my house and then we'll see you two million times on social media the next day as what's on the air on television that night the it's it's different it's totally different crowd and different audience that's the point for thank you it's it's crazy to think about that like I was so excited at one hundred people fifty one going for started he told me about twitter and I signed up for twitter I remember getting one hundred followers and I'm like my Gosh Dude we have one do you find people listen to you in their cars or on their APPs or what I mean I think it's it's it's all over the place but it's definitely a different group of people that are listening you laugh you choose to cry you choose to do anything that's that's your choice I think we have the subject for your next book laughing Jesus isn't too serious now do you have laughing fits it it's funny that I became the guy that lasts I I'm the thing but it's like it's funny when and so I went and watched it and I it was great it was amazing it was hilarious but broke how often will ferrell was one of the funniest human beings ever worked with and the cow belt I think it was the first sketch that I that I broke in so of of SNL when you were on and it's one that actually a friend told me that Oh my God remember when Jimmy Fallon couldn't stop laughing in that Debbie Downer Episode do it I really felt bad to be really honest I was out of league and I was in a sketch with the funniest human beings on earth so I he's got two little speakers in a dial usually it's digital now all right let me ask you one more thing because before I talked to you I went back and watched an if you could pick anything to do all day long anybody I would think that laughing would be at the top of the list imagine yeah you choose former congresswoman Jane Harman President and CEO of the Wilson Center. Welcome back thank Jeremy and first of all what do you make of what's going on right now and Turkeys there was weekend update guy but it's like hilarious but the one that comes back to me is that I laughed all the time and I I only laughed at me and when we did the bit when he when he was hitting the cowbell his shirt rose up so much his whole gut his whole stomach was hanging out and then name talking to human and it was the funniest thing I've ever actually was witnessed to in my life and I lost it but the thing is like maybe like five or six sketches but it's it's famous sketches well even for the people who are on stage with you I did not want it follows that's one hundred more people are GonNa Watch this show it's amazing now you have fifty one million followers on twitter if you one million fifty one point four million we can't forget it on podcasts that are listening on some digital devices as opposed to what are your what are your bosses want you to do they want you to go to NPR dot com I I started s no I was the impersonation guy the opening he does great impersonation then it was the guy who laughed at himself I didn't know what to do so I started laughing and there were like dude you can't laughing it's funny they go you have a you're in the sketch you can't laugh at Scherzer in the schedule even Christopher Walken was like his game he was almost doing an impression of himself he was like Oh you got how how like you know I don't think it actually does anything I think people online are different audience I believe it is I like as we will send you a radio so that you have just in case you can catch the power when it opened the box what does it look like it's got two little squares thank you so much for joining US Jeremy You're the best thank you for doing this and honestly I want to tune in to radio to listen for sending you Arabia uh-huh serious that is Jimmy Fallon whose new book is this is baby he's also of course the host of the tonight show NPR mind body your access to the largest consumer wellness network and marketplace this message comes from NPR can't get donations just to walk to the dollar general it's basically if you want anything once puncture spas and salons find book and pay all in one place owners can join the net worth at mind body online dot com slash destroyed or damaged in the hurricane so jeter has had to live off the dollar general but it doesn't stop fresh produce that's prompted some neighbors to reach out to food banks when Geeta Jackson County is small and rural fewer than fifty thousand people live in the county west of Tallahassee Christina Jeeter is one the waiting in her car at the tail end of the line which snakes around the church I believe we are the Forgotten County Jackson county especially green he has slowed because the town's only grocery store caught fire and still hasn't reopened Robbie Gaffney of member station W. FSU reports sponsor mind body mind body connects millions to the widest variety of local fitness classes and the offer the same experience when it comes to massage an actor but the flames burned all their paperwork and it slowed the approval process the nearest grocery stores in the next town over about ten minutes away but many cars were greenwood has no restaurants no gas stations and for the past year no grocery store the supermarket caught fire after the storm the owners applied for a loan in January longest storm to strike the US since Hurricane Andrew in nineteen ninety two a year later people are still struggling to get by in the small town of Greenwood the recovery we lived without running water Turkey I don't even know how long aw jeeter worked as a caregiver for Women Greenwood who died after the hurricane so Geeta has taken up roofing to get by she says the Greenwood supermarket was onto your plop watermelons and bags sweet potatoes in the car trunks while other hand out barbecue sandwiches something Anita Crawford needs after her house was leveled by Michael any here since the storm who is live with mold no air conditioning and a fallen tree in her home we didn't even have electricity for months something to drink you want sugar you want toilet paper you want anything you either walk or beg for a ride and you can only ask for a ride so many times it's been about a year since Hurricane Michael hit the Florida panhandle as a category five storm it was the straw struggle to the community and it's been tough not having it we don't have a kitchen so the Deli was here we could have hot food every day we can stop bagging stuff up I need to meet the line two guests brush produce is our long near the Greenwood Baptist church before it becomes a burden to somebody else it's about a forty five minute walk the path is treacherous cars and trucks zoom by and there's not much sidewalk April Garrett's family has made that trek from their home to that store to she says it was horrible a tree fell on her car during the hurricane afford to get it fixed Garrett's husband has been out of a job because he couldn't make it to work he was a non stop worker he even on a sick days he never by relying on their neighbors because she says they're the only ones they can count on as hard as some very very hard in you know try and s trying to support this community never not showed up for work ios always there on time she's had help from missy harkless one of the organizers of Greenwood's food giveaways harkless says people have survived just as volunteers basis alone and without having any help from the government and it's just us doing it by herself scene and making between thirty forty hours worth of phone calls a week just to get with all the news going on recently it's been now starting with this news from yesterday that former Vice President Joe Biden is calling for president trump's impeachment for the first time to preserve our constitution our hard to find time to talk about the campaigning that's been happening in the Democratic field for president there are less than four months left until the Iowa caucuses so let's check in on the race uh-huh Moxie are basically terrority he should be impeached let's bring an NPR political correspondent Scott detro- who's been following the campaign hi Scott Richman inquiry but yesterday he actually came out for impeachment himself what prompted that you know I think one big reason that it's honestly in line with where most Democrats actions by President Trump and the trump administration over the past week or so has really clarified this for Biden among them being in public and saying China I welcome your right now we saw a major uptick in support for impeachment overall in a lot of polls over the last week but the biggest shift initially was among Democrats actually out of step with most of the Democratic field on this Elizabeth Warren Senator from Massachusetts came out in favor of impeachment months ago this on the campaign trail after suffering what he called a minor heart attack initially he said he would change the nature of his campaign but then on NBC yesterday he said he missed we're going to get back into the groove of a vigorous very vigorous campaign Scott what has this heart attack meant for sanders interference as well and then the The step earlier this week of sending a letter to Congress saying we are not going to cooperate in any way shape or form which Nancy Pelosi would be the oldest president elected same goes for Joe Biden and the current record is held by President Trump and Elizabeth Warren is seventy as well so the top four candidates from the sixties through more recent days here's what Warren said first of all in a two thousand seven interview suggesting that her decision to leave the school other Democrats have said could could lead to an article of obstruction impeachment have the other major candidates on the democratic side also come out in favor of impeachment yeah and it's worth noting that Biden was from something that most democratic voters were split onto something that you know eight and ten nine and ten Democrats agree on that's part of it The argument that Biden made yesterday is that just a series of was enough for her Bernie Sanders was kind of in between the two coming out for impeachment only more recently but a little bit before them let's talk about Bernie Sanders because he is now back hard times for a political campaign reporter like you said it's just not the top hit on the show right well here you are so Biden has previously called for an in September but at the end of that first year I was visibly pregnant and back in the day that meant that the principal said to me after the fact late in the evening on Friday once he was also released from the hospital buddy it certainly calls into question the fact that Bernie Sanders seventy eight years old if elected he from the intense focus on impeachment right now this story that he had a heart attack it's pretty major story first of all the sanders campaign did not release that key detail until several days at some food on and they're going to keep doing it until back grocery store meals for NPR news I'm not faced a controversy in recent days over whether she was pushed out of a teaching job for being pregnant which we should note is an experience that many women report having gone through spring shortly after the Muller report came out her argument was that the the details of the Muller report especially the ten instances of possible obstruction including recently as you said I think it really underscores one key point though and that is by and large Elizabeth Warren has been able to set the terms of her matter of fact and I think it's something that a lot of people could could understand as opposed to a lot of stories about politicians shifting their stories and that was this that one and now when you look at the average of polls some she's actually ahead of Joe Biden I think that's one key metric and another thing that really underscored that to me is that she on both sides are all in their seventies one of them suffering a heart attack I think really underscores that fact if sanders does lose momentum as a result of this where does the support coverage so far she has been only recently the front runner she's been giving a stump speech rolling out policies and really defining her own story but when you're the front runner as I exactly and and I think Warren is going to have to as Joe Biden has for months now respond to stories that they wouldn't necessarily want to be talking about a lot more now and when you say she's the front runner that's because aw wish me luck and hired someone else for the job what do we know about this Scott she did a long interview with with CBS who was department of paying for president well it meant in means that it's basically on pause right now he has not done any public events since the episode his campaign is only committing to saying he will testing timing that CBS had apparently been working on the story for for several weeks if not months and then another outlet posted right beforehand her response to the changes story was pretty we'll be back for the debate and and and has not made it clear one way or another whether he will do any events between now and then I think in raw political terms Bernie Sanders probably benefited that's mayor Pete Buddha judge of South Bend Indiana and he's at eleven percent in Iowa just behind Bernie Sanders at twelve percent you no longer work here so that's what she's saying and her campaign is really leaned into the fact that that story probably strikes true with a lot of women over lot of decade he's still neck and neck with Warren in the polls in the key states in most of the key states and nationally because the progressive basis split right now let's talk about Senator Warren who has was her choice I actually didn't have the education courses so I was on an emergency certificate and was called and I went back to graduate school and took a couple of courses in education nation and said I don't think this is GonNa work out for me okay and here's how she's been describing the experience more recently this is her at the last debate argue she now is a lot of other campaign start circling you Doing doing opposition research reporters start digging in to get negative attention basically on the moment that she wrote about it in her book going forward she has said that she was let go fired showed the door the way that she puts it it seems like it was an ambiguous situation with a clear outcome of there are a number of other candidates were not going to get to all of them in this segment but there is one other one that I want to talk about because he's now in the top four in the Iowa polls he has made a point not to fundraise off of the impeachment inquiry in Congress although he does support impeachment tell us about his campaign is he had a chance in away but you know over over the last few months sanders his support has remained relatively steady but it's gone down a little bit and that's happened as Elizabeth Warren has steadily gained UNCROWNED I think Warren is is most likely the beneficiary of that right now if you if you combine Warren and Sanders support it's far ahead of Joe Biden but the Nobel Prize in literature has been awarded to two writers Polish novelist Olga Takhar Chuck thanks toxin how do they take advantage of the questions that they will get pretty infrequently you know every fifteen twenty minutes or so at best in their position can they give a reason for that casses do have it long rich history of breaking late in the game and and and seeing somebody as a surgeon candidate who might not really appear on the radar until December so Pete Buddha sources to hire staff he's got a lot of excitement a lot of people who want to volunteer for his campaign so he's got a lot of boots on the ground knocking on doors doing the type of organ to try and take advantage in Iowa at finally you mentioned the debate the fourth debate it's coming up next week they're gonna be even more candidates on stage than we've seen in the last few debates too is really positioning himself in an interesting way I'm actually going to head to Iowa right after the debate next week to to cover him for a little bit and look at this he's got a lot of money so he's got the re and Austrian writer Peter Honda Hunka is probably best known outside of Europe for his collaborations with the German filmmaker vim vendors and Olga Takhar chuck became leaking of names of winners for gambling purposes and to make matters worse the academy had been giving money to a cultural organization that this couple owned so all this led to a the first writer from Poland to win the man

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2018 Legislative Round-Up

Consumer Watchdog Podcast

13:31 min | 1 year ago

2018 Legislative Round-Up

"This is a very special day because this is both our last live show of the year. And of course, our last interview with our friend, Jamie Corp. But of course, we'll recommend next year. But for our last live interview, we've got a very special agenda want to welcome back, our friend Jimmy court CO, you are t the president of consumer watchdog. I'm a giant fan of consumer watchdog. I trust you know, that check him out of consumer watchdog dot ORG, consumer watchdog dot org. They are awesome. Jamie corden all his colleagues fighting for us. And boy, do we need a Jamie happy new year to you. Thanks for coming back on the Norman Goldman show. Happy new year. Norm. Always so happy to be here. Well, Jamie you've been with us nearly since the beginning and this year, especially has been allotted doom and gloom. In fact, you could even say that there were prophets of doom and gloom back a couple years ago, when you know who managed to squeak is way in and this year has been very stressful for a lot of people. And of course, we had some good developments. I don't want to do a real year. Retrospective from abroad perspective because you're the president of consumer watchdog. So I got an Email because I'm subscribed to the consumer watchdog Email list and Jamie. I saw the successes that consumer watchdog is celebrating this year, and California is leading the way is it not. And it is it's it's really remarkable given how divided America's what we may get done this year. I mean online privacy. So that they have control their information patient safety protections wildfire victims were protected this year health insurance companies were restricted, so they couldn't deny covered services insurance policy holders. Hearsay billions because we have the toughest regulation in America. You know? And I think about it part. I mean, a lot of this is California specific save one law. We actually passed federally for online accountability for the Silicon Valley. But I was thinking in the song estimated profit by the Grateful Dead which goes, I'm not going to sink, the because it would be horrible. Even worse. How California a? Oh, right. We're not talking about Exxon and quarterly, debentures and and stuff. No. Zero p estimated prophet Jesus. Dead Deadheads out there, it it. It's the line is California profit on the burning shore like an angel standing in a shaft of light rising up to the paradise. I know I'm going to shine and California, you know, the Golden State shined. I mean, we have the first of its kind law requiring doctors to disclose to patients when they're on probation for sexual misconduct. Drug abuse other offenses, we have for the first time doctors and two thousand eighteen half to check it prescription drug database before prescribing narcotics to deal with the opioid epidemic. We have literally the nation's toughest on online privacy. That says companies have to tell you what information they collect about you give you the right to say, no. And they're legally accountable for data breaches. And you know, these are pretty big changes. Those are you know, changes that we couldn't get done in washing. And the reason we got it done in California. Frankly in the case of online privacy is because the threat of about measure that was a backed by developer name Allers to McTaggart who's now live ours and a friend and he brought the signatures to to get it on the ballot. And we're all prepared to fight for this thing in the Silicon Valley backed away because they know they'd gonna they were gonna lose it shows that direct democracy that type of direct democracy that was given to Californians by Hiram Johnson. Our governor in the twenties when the railroads ran the world out here at the turn of the century. He came and gave direct democracy, the tools of initiatives and recall and referendum to the people. And they don't have to actually go all the way through the process. You don't have to go all the way the ballots, sometimes it's just the threat of one or the other can can change things and the same thing we're talking about the patient safety laws. I just numerator the reason those got through was because of the metoo movement in part in a courageous legislator named Senator Jerry hill. Who was so courageous that he just lost the business? Professions committee chairmanship because to courageous standing up to the medical establishment, Sacramento. Didn't want to give him that physician to do it again. Unfortunately, that's just happened last week, but he did Democrats strong. Those are Democrats who talking about those are those Democrats run in the state Senate Toni Atkins who's who shuffled the deck. You know, now gave the insurance committee in our California Senate to a woman who was backed by Chevron, she's an repeal in the primary and progressive lost or see. She got the chair of the insurance committee. But the good news is we've got about measure in California's thirty one years old next year thirty years old this year. That's basically accounted according to a new report out from consumer federation of America this year for hundred fifty billion dollars in saving for drivers alone. It's the toughest rate regulation, America's was called insurance reform prop one three and the legislature can't change it. You gotta go back to the ballot box to change it. Thanks to Californians or you you need to to further the purposes of the initiative, otherwise voters have to change it. And when the insurance companies have attacked us in the ballot box to try to change this law because it's saving consumers money and costing them money. They've lost every time because the public saw through it. So you know, I I hear the song in my head estimated profit. You know, that California really is it's like an angel standing in a shaft of Rif. It opens a lot of hope to the rest of America that what we've done here when the balance of power shifts back will can be done nationally. I mean, we also had our legal team led by Gerry flagging and finalized some really critical settlements. The insurance companies estate are no longer able to misrepresent the doctors and their network they have to be forthcoming. They can't deny coverage services that they've tried to deny we've had some really big legal settlements. So we have the law. We have the rule of law. We have the initiative process, we have direct democracy, and we have a legislature that even though the interest groups, you know, spend a lot of money to buy them. Ultimately, I found the legislature stands up to the money when public opinion threatens to do greater harm to them and still we have public opinion and for all the gloom and doom around the rest of America. You know, I got the Grateful Dead, my heirs, and I got I got these wonderful tools in California that were given to us by people wiser than me, you know, a century ago. It's fascinating you're talking about the legislature here because just a few years ago the standing of the legislature in the public was abysmal. The public hated the legislature. There were every summer there was a government shutdown because he couldn't agree on a budget and now because of the ballot initiative that you're talking about the voters change that we needed a two-thirds majority of passing budget. The Republicans have a little more Atlema third. They shut everything down and shook every all the democr-. That's down for goodies. And the public finally got got wise to their game and said, okay, you can pass the budget by simple majority. Then the Democrats actually took big power. And now, we have the Democrats basically, very popular amongst the populace the polling shows, the legislatures and the governor very popular, you don't see that very often also because of consumer watchdog and proposition one of three which was your organization thirty one years ago in California now insure auto insurance rates are not an issue. There's that we've not had a car insurance rate crisis in three decades, we have stable plentiful, forcible car insurance, and that's all because of proper government regulation done through the ballot box with consumer watchdog, Jamie. I mean, we really are leading the way here in a lot of other states have the ballot initiative in one form or another like half, the states and they've been using it. I mean, Arkansas Arkansas just by the bow raise the minimum wage, Nebraska, just embrace. The ObamaCare and expanded a Medicaid under ObamaCare in Nebraska and in Utah. So it seems that the ballot initiative really is a way for people exercise their voice it is. And so is the referendum. And so is the recall because I'll tell you. There was an end president of pushed by PG any this big utility out here in Addison to take legal rights from fire victims this year. So they consumer utilities for burning down their homes and Jerry Brown was behind it. He's he's got a lot of money from utilities miss a big booster. And guess what? The legislature said no way, we're not gonna face potential recall. We're not going to face the voters getting in our face by taking those rights away. So they said no to the governor. And they said no to the governor when he wanted to put energy speculators back in charge of a regional speculative energy market because he wanted to trust speculation again. And they said, no. So, you know legislature, even though it doesn't face a daily, you know, threat of a ballot measure recall. Referendum. They're very sensitive to public opinion. And when the public makes its opinion known became awful when you gotta scorn voter nationally. We did have a victory and people we've talked about this. But it's really remarkable. Even though it's a small change in the law. It has big consequences. There is this federal law. That says that Facebook Google any website is not responsible for third party content, which means when the Russians create content and hacking election. Facebook can't be sued the swipe Facebook and these other companies haven't done a good job of police in their platform. They don't have liability. They just let everything go. It's wild west while they're trying to rein it in for the first time this year, we did create legal liability the right to shoe civilly against Facebook, Google any platform any online platform that knowingly aids in abets sex trafficking. It was because of this just outrageous case with. A website called back page and it chipped away. At this federal shield that was put in in the beginning of the internet and early nineties the Communications Decency Act that is protected these companies, whether it's sex trafficking, the drug trafficking, you know, counterfeit drug trafficking election, nearing whatever it is. These companies have been protected, but we finally chipped away. At it got a bipartisan vote to protect the victims of online, sex trafficking, and their families and get them the right to sue companies that don't police their platforms against it and President Trump. I gotta say sign that law face the family signed the law got a handshake from them. And you know, so these some of these issues is what I'm saying have greater power in the court of public opinion. Then you know, the parties in the Silicon Valley. It shows me that anything can really be done if you work together to raise up the voices of people who've been affected, and that those people when they look like your your daughter or your family member, you have to respond to these compelling human stories. So I think there's a way a road ahead for all of us. If progressives learn a lesson that unfortunately, conservative learning stop talking to themselves and start talking to everyone else through the amenity of the causes. They represent and the people they represent because you know, people who are being denied health coverage by their insurance companies when they paid their premiums and are getting denied unreasonably that resonates with every American almost every American except for the insurance companies. I imagine. But if you don't work from sheri- company resonates, these are the stories we have to tell going into twenty twenty. This is the way we win America back with you, Mandy. To me. I I hear transplantable which is were cutting across all the party lines were leaving aside all of the old ways. And we're just talking to people on a story by story human-to-human basis where everybody understands it real pretty much the same. And we really don't need to divide ourselves away. We do and Jamie. I love your notes of optimism here. And I do agree. There have been significant victories in two thousand eighteen and I'm looking forward to more than twenty nineteen. And in fact, consumer watchdog is a leader in those victories. Lot of those victories in two thousand eighteen so Jamie. I've got to leave it there for time. But happy new year to you. Thanks so much for being a part of the show. All these years. Of course, we'll bring back Br be right back with it. Right. When we get started in January again, however until then everybody should be visiting consumer watchdog dot ORG, consumer watchdog dot org to check out the great work that they're doing on all of our Mavs and Jamie. Thank you. So very very much, please. Thank all of your great colleagues. Many of them are friends. So thank you again for all that you've done and have a great new year. We'll talk to you in the new year. Thank you. Norman. Let me leave you with the last line of estimated profit by the Grateful Dead. My time coming any day. Don't worry about me know gonna worry about me. No, I'm in. No hurry. Don't worry about me. Now. Salad love the Grateful Dead. So there you go, Jamie. Thanks, gray. And and this year's last interview, Jamie. We'll talk to you next year. Thank you talk to me.

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How PG&E's Bankruptcy is an Attempt to Hold Californians Hostage

Consumer Watchdog Podcast

12:07 min | 1 year ago

How PG&E's Bankruptcy is an Attempt to Hold Californians Hostage

"This is one of my favorite days because we get to visit with our friend. Jamie court C O U R T, the spelling just like going to court, and he's the president of consumer watchdog and consumer watchdog does go to court for consumers, but they do a whole lot more checkout. Consumer watchdog dot ORG, consumer watchdog dot org is the home in my humble opinion for the best consumer group around Jamie court. Thanks for coming back as always on the Norman Goldman show owes my pleasure, norm. Oedema pleasure. Jimmy you. And I spent a lot of time talking about PG civic gas and electric our friends on real talk nine ten San Francisco Bay area know, all about this company. That's where they're getting their gas from right? And there's been all kinds of problems with PG. We spent a lot of time talking about the wildfires potential liability their attempts to get the legislature us taxpayer dollars to bail them out last week. We talked about the y les at twelve and the junket a bunch of Democrats and Republicans going and hobnobbing in a Wii Walla state was burning down in a lot of PG knee service. Because if PG equipment Jamie now now, they're threatening bankruptcy. The threatening bankruptcy is a big company with a lot of money to threatening bankruptcy, Jamie. They bankrupt. Well, they're morally bankrupt. There's no question about that. He got this jab because they haven't modernizer to haven't cleaned the vegetation from their lines. They they're convicted sound six times over between San Bruno and previous criminal activity, literally. So we know that they're not van crypt in the financial sense 'cause they can pay their bills. They don't have any verdicts or judgements against them in his fire cases, you know, what they're doing is. They're taking hostages, you know, they're trying to take workers, you know, who who just got a notice that they're going to go into bankruptcy and another twelve days. We're trying to take homeowner victims will be delayed and their verdicts if there are verdicts, and they're going to get paid because they're in bankruptcy. They're trying to take the state of California hostage, and maybe contractors houses, and they're doing this because they either want a political bailout, which I don't think there. Going to get and or they want leverage when they try to settle these cases cheap against the counties and cities and homeowner victims from the fires, and they're over inflating their overstating by I would say more than fifty percent, what the potential liability is, which is when you do that in a court of law kinda line to judge. So my hope is that the state of California chases him, the public utility commission gets good appointment from governor Gavin Newsom, and they chase him into bankruptcy and say to the bankruptcy judge. You know, I couldn't declare bankruptcy. If I had enough money to pay my bills, I'd be denied. And I think they should deny PG, and he's request you because there isn't a state report that wholesome accountable for the fire there isn't a verdict for which there accountable. They may be accountable in years, they may need to deal with these problems. But it is not here today, and they're doing this as a safe harbor to shield themselves from having the deal with and talk about their. Doubles. And they just want someone else in bankruptcy court to figure out what they can forgive or whether they're going to get a bail out. That's not the way the handle your problems when you create problems PG and has the PG and he's not a victim. It's a felon. Very aggressive. Use of bankruptcy, right? It's kind of a preemptive thread of bankruptcy or even a preemptive bankruptcy before anything happens. Right. As a way to get goodies. It's a preemptive launch. I mean, Jamie imprudent business would say, okay, we have these potential liabilities down the road. We gotta start putting reserves the side. We gotta start managing our business in order to handle this, right? They gotta try and stretch out the payments, and then maybe get some financing. I mean, if I were being a prudent manager of this company, I would say, okay, we have some really large contingent liabilities coming down to pike. We gotta start planning for him. I wouldn't immediately run into bankruptcy and say, I'm gonna flush y'all down the drain before any of this ever happens unless you give me stuff. I mean, this kind of. Corporate piracy criminality, isn't it. Yeah. I mean, it's an extension of their criminality. You know you fail to do. What you're supposed to do. You've done. An instance. After instance, you go to the legislature last year, get a bail out for your two thousand seventeen fire liability, which they did then before the Liang's dry on that you go to a Bank of see going to bankruptcy. So you don't have to face your two thousand eighteen liability. And you don't have to deal with the victims. I mean, if you're a legislator. You're feeling pretty dumb listening last year, but these guys are taking hostages, and I I'll tell you the thread going now Norwich this crazy you've heard of too big to fail. You know? I mean, I think these guys are too corrupt to fail, but there's in the environmental corporate environmental communities to green the fail it PG. And he goes in the bankruptcy. We're not gonna have those renewable energy laws that governor Brown past. How's that work? Chris the contracts for the renewable would be subject to revision and the bankruptcy court. Well, there's a way to deal with that. Yeah. I mean, it's in the point is you just keep digging deeper and deeper hole until you're at the center of the earth, and you're going to boil when it gets really hot down there. And you know, that molten semi there's no excuse trust of gotten this far. And yet they keep digging keep digging. So who knows what next week will bring? But if I'm governor Newsom, and this is the biggest test of my administration, and it is. This brand new administration. I get a new public utilities commission president who's up to the task. And I make sure that I don't let them get into bankruptcy. If I don't think they should be there. I go follow him. And I go stop them. And that's how you know, you gotta govern who's following? You know, your your interests and not PG's interest. We'll see what he does. I mean at this point. It looks like he's looking at those as options he's looking at city hired bankruptcy attorneys. So I I respect I respect that type of STAN we'll see if he follows through. And I think the point is you can't negotiate with hostage, takers. The truth. I hope you know, this voice. This is our friend Jamie court. It's spelled C O U R D Jamie court is the president of consumer watchdog, check them online at consumer watchdog dot ORG, exposed confront change. That's the motto. I love this group. And I think you will once you get to know them, we've been having Jamie court on this show virtually since the beginning every week and Jamie. Speaking of friends, a friend of consumer watchdog, a friend of this show, Michael hill, sick H. I L T K. Let's give him the credit because that's where credit is due Michael hill. Sick HIL TCI in the Los Angeles Times a few days ago, commenting on this issue that we're talking about suggested that the state of California simply by PG and Michael Hilton who's a business writer along with David Lazarus in the business section the LA times. Michael Hill's ex argument was basically look the stock market is hammering PG and either stock is plummeting at the time. He's writing a few days ago. Already lost fifty two percent of its value. He said, you know, the state of California's got a lot of money the way it is the value. The stock is going we can just buy the stock own the company for very modest sum of money, and then just incorporate into the state grid and start modernizing it that way by getting rid of the profit margin and planning for the public interest, Jamie. I thought that was a heck of a great idea is that a realistic idea. It is at the moment. Jerry hill. Senator he'll have the same idea. You know, Scott Weiner had suggested something similar. There's the belief that maybe municipalities will use their power of eminent domain to take over the PG any equipment. There's a San Francisco Munis misbelief, it's just getting going. This could become part of that there's lots of options, but the point is we want renewable energy. We wanna meet our renewable portfolio standards. We can't trust the six time felon where corruption at every turn as all we hear from them. What we gotta do is in. Power the local communities. There's an movement with the renewable energy movement to go to these local community aggregating these community where where they produced renewable energy, and they were going to be contractors, actually for the utilities and utilities hated them. But in this case, they could actually become the main suppliers of municipal utility or a state or a, you know, a northern California regional utility with me with that is that is that is run by the government or 'cause I got mental agency. That's the way to do it. When you have the the public. You have the power of the public because there's a lot that needs to be done to prevent these fires. We need to do underground underground wires for the power lines where we think it's windy and dangerous and PG and he's never going to invest in that. But you know, what a public utility would a municipal utility publicly controlled utility. And so I think I think this is an opportunity, but they. Don't necessarily have the same the same size courage in in Sacramento, as they do in the Mike he'll circum-, you know, you've got. Factor. You got you got the Wiley at twelve factor. Right. If. Page twenty using its money then fled. Winding in Hawaii. You know? That's who they are. They're they're close. And they don't wanna put a brother out of business might not get back to Hawaii next year, you know, to hang out at the luau with them. So I I don't know where we're going from here. I can tell you this week. It doesn't look like there's going to be a bailout if anything there could be a buy out, but that's complicated. And I think the real play for the next eleven twelve days is can we keep PGN out of bankruptcy. We'll Gavin Newsom appoint a really tough PC, president public utility commission president to to pull this all together. That's the real question. The arguments very simple straightforward and not bankrupt. Why can you file bankruptcy of you're not bankrupt. You're saying that maybe one day down the road if things work against you, then and you can't man is no way you could possibly manage your business to avoid this. So you declaring a preemptive bankruptcy way way in advance with a whole series of sumptious. I would simply take the position of you're not bankrupt. You can't be in bankruptcy court of you not bankrupt. And see how see how see how far that goes with microbes? I predict I'm going to be in the hospital next month and pay all my bills, I'm going to Bank if she now so I can go sheet with the hospital. So I don't have to pay the bills because I'm in bankruptcy already this making sense, a preemptive medical emergency. I like that. Yeah. As it is only a corporation with this type of guy and lack of any sense of social contract with do such a thing. PG any fits that Bill? Perfect with Jamie. Remember the ruling. You got to remember the rule. Jamie corporations are people, my friend. They're very very special people. And if this corporation was a person as a six times felon, it'd be in jail now that's can't put a corporation jail. You can't you can't put them. You can't there's no death penalty can't arrest them. You can't jail them. Right. You can't arraign him put him on trial. Really mean who goes who suffers all of us near you. Go Jamie got to leave it there. But on that, very somber note allow me to remind everybody we've been talking to our friend, Jamie court. It's J A M I E C O U R T. Jamie court, president consumer watchdog checkout, consumer watchdog dot org online and you'll see all Jamie courts. Great colleagues. They're doing all work for us. We should know them, and we should support them, Jamie. Thanks so much for all you do. And we I have a sneaky suspicion. We'll be talking about PG a bunch more in the near future on the Norman Goldman show. Thank you normally configured to talk. And more.

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Norm Lewis on "Da 5 Bloods," Broadway and more!

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

35:22 min | 3 weeks ago

Norm Lewis on "Da 5 Bloods," Broadway and more!

"Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of maximum, fun, Dot Org and is distributed by NPR. Coming to you for our homes, it's Bullseye on travel. Anderson and I'm Jerry Hill we are co host of a maximum fund show called. Fanti yes, that is a show and it's spelled I love the. At A. N. T. I. It's a show all about kind of those problematic phase. We love to have those complex and complicated conversations about the grey areas in our lives, but today on Bullseye. Jerry you're interviewing, nor Louis how was that? He was great. He's an actor Broadway veteran, and he's nominated for a Tony for playing porgy in Porgy and best. He was also the first black man to play the role on Broadway of Phantom in France money opera and. Now, he's doing some of everything. Yeah, I think I I kind of figured out who he was through scandal. He Played Senator Edison Davis who carry Washington's character was dating absolutely now he is in spike. Lee's brand new movie defy blood, which is on Netflix. It's a movie about four black Vietnam War veterans, and their going back to Vietnam. It's kind of buddy movie and it gets really complicated. Complicated it really touches on a lot of different themes, death and racism trauma and a bunch of gold bars that are buried in the jungle. Let's start with the clip about the gold. The four friends are looking for a pile of gold. They left behind during the war in this scene. They're talking about what they do with it, nor plays Eddie and he's the first voice you'll hear. That goes you go towards black liberation. al-blat. You do self talk about black races man I got mines. What about our people? What about people? You, would you. What would joe share and we'll each decide for ourselves. Norman said now see C. odors knows. Norman want that goal. Go towards the cause. As easy for you to say, Hey, you rich. To you I'm not rich. You what I'm not rich. I'm broke. Man and you go get it. Lost it all. Norm Lewis welcomed the bullseye. Thank you for having me. So we just heard this clip of you playing Eddie and before I, kind of jump into what this film is, Abou and and this character. I kinda WANNA know like. How did this role come to you? How did this? How did this begin for you? Be Part of the five leads. It was seriously. happenstance is Spike Lee and I know each other from being a certain events, and he's come to see certain shows that I've been in on Broadway things like that and We built relationship based on that then I got a chance to do. have it his TV. Show on Fox and from that. We just stayed in touch and one night. He called me was around I. Think around nine o'clock. Call me, what are you doing? And I said nothing. He's like okay. I'm sending you a script. I want you to read it and tell me what you think about it click. So I'm like Oh okay, and I'm looking at the phone like Jesus Christ Spike leaders. Call me hung up on me. so I read it. the next morning. He calls me. He said what he think I, said Oh. My God is fantastic. It's you know it's amazing. He's Okay I want you to me for dinner now. I again. I'm not knowing what this is all about being spike. Lee Wants my opinion on a script. He wrote so Oh. Okay sure I'll go along play along and. We I. Go meet him in Brooklyn for dinner. We start talking about the script again. So talking about the characters, and he said I want you to play Eddie. And I'm you know again. I'm thinking that might be why. He called me out there, but not for sure and I'm jumping up and down inside my head like a little schoolboy by then you know out on the outward appearance I'm thinking. Wow. That's cool. Thanks Spike. Lee thanks dude. Very cool, that's amazing, so talk to us about Eddie. In the context of this film at the the five obviously we see these men these Vietnam. War veterans going back to Vietnam to commemorate their time there to. Pick up a few pieces of gold, maybe but also to get the remains of their their their leader who had died talk to me about Eddie in this cast. Eddie was one of those guys that you know because they were all young when they got there, they were around seventeen eighteen nineteen years old, and so they bonded, and so they had been on so many different tours together, and that's why these five were such a special unit, and that's why we were sent on this special mission, so they were like brothers. They really were It was just an amazing connection there and listening to Norman in the show in the movie he he got a lot about history about black history things that he had never even heard of soy absorbed all of that but after the war. When he got back home he wanted to. Become accessible, and he fell into this world of of the business world and having a used car You know being a used car, salesman and having many different lots and things like that, but he also got caught up in that lifestyle and had to think in the movies, a two or three wives, but was just a womanizer, and just had a lot of fun probably did a lot of drugs things like that, but then he lost it all. Some of it based on him just losing it just partying so much, but also because he had these lives and had to pay alimony and things like that. But I think he went back into that little boy, or that young man that he was when he first went over to Vietnam, instead of listening to what Norman was talking about, and realized that success is not necessarily having money and all this stuff, but success is helping others and being of service, and the idea of him being able to get this goal and take it back was going to be his penance if you will to repay the world in a in a in a way. I'M Curious about the preparation for this role What do you do to to find this character to to find this base How do you get ready for that? Well besides doing the research, we had a lot of drama series. We had books. We had videos that were specifically about black soldiers in Vietnam and one of them is called bloods, which this movie is based on, and it's It's written by difference is is different stories of the soldiers. They're low vignettes, so we read that there's footage of The soldiers who are doing you remember the Dapper. Did you see the DAB in the in the movie where we were all early on? When you first get there right, and then there's also footage within that where we were showing what the Dow how it originated, and so the DAB actually means dignity and pride, so that was something that was a communication at the black soldiers put together, so they knew which unit they belong to a witch platoon. They belong to I. There were different taps for different platoons so we had to learn all of that. There was a boot camp as far as knowledge book, learning, and also physically so we had to make sure. Sure. We were in shape. We we had people that were on set to teach us how to hold guns and loaded guns and shoot guns, and then some of the terminology, and some of the almost like choreography of what you had to do while you're in the field because you couldn't speak while you're in the field, so they would show is like hand, signals and things like that, so we it took us about two or three weeks to kind of get that within us, and they kept kept on us because You just never knew when spike was going to ask you give me some data and he he would want certain. See and you know which that we learned about five or six different shops, and they were authentic another interesting. Tidbit about this whole thing was this was the first war that it was in a segregated army. There wasn't a black army wasn't the White Army is was just one army now. They segregated themselves once they got there. Some people cross pollinated, but this was not a black and white army, and it was also the first of a war that was ever televised well, so you would see a lot of soldiers come home whether alive or dead I was watching this and thinking that I would imagine that you've gotten a lot of feedback from black veterans who were probably excited to see this movie, but I'm curious. What kind of feedback have you gotten from veterans? I'm black veterans specifically. Well that's an interesting question. We because of Kobe. We haven't really any chance to go out into the hills and do those kinds of. Those kinds of talks but I will say before Cova, Ted. This film was seen `specially for black veterans and I think there were three showings of this and they the re the results were very. It was a lot of people can watch the whole thing. Some people had to walk out. And then. Come back and because it brought back so many memories, you know these guys really did suffer from from PTSD also agent, orange, and also the abusive. They got for being black over in Vietnam not from the Vietnamese, but from allow the white soldiers the debt. Let me go back to the Dafur second a lot of officers. The white officers did not like the fact that these guys would communicate that way, and they would threaten them sometimes if they did get they did see them do it again. They will get thrown in jail. What they call the Brig, so some people were you know mistreated, so they were fighting. Many different wars other than just the Vietnamese. So into five leathers as seen where you all are on a boat, and you're your approached by this man that is trying to sell lindos character a chicken. Okay. No. Comment on. All the respect, no! Man. More no means no. Landed right. Come on. Man. Out Now. Come talk to no. Backup. Backup backup. And it really becomes a conversation about PTSD and your character is trying to. Any is really trying to. Control, the situation calm it down. Bring it down key talk about that specific scene because it definitely is one of the highlights in the film where you, it really makes you ask questions, thank. Man Yeah that one was. That was a really interesting because we were going down. This was like the market in Vietnam and You know you saw they actually. That was a live snake that they chopped and so. All this is all the stuff that is authentic Asian. Culture, you know and it was. It was interesting for us as actors. Because that was the first time we had seen that live, but what was what was supposed to be? Not Calm scene, but it was supposed to be delroy. Getting mad at the guy, and just storming off to the other side of of the boat escalated into this guy saying you kill. My mother and spike kept throwing. He said Yeah tell him you kill my mother. Say that say that you know things like that, so those were the. Things that spike would see and go okay. We need to ask more to this and. It definitely highlighted Delroy s D, and just how real those things are to people and people not able to especially if you don't have therapy or anything, not being able to deal with it, and that was kind of our first. We knew that he had kind of in the throughout the beginning of the film of we knew that he was kind of on edge, but that was kind of a turning point for all of us that we saw how deep it we go, and then his son would come at John Major's. Would through in his line, saying this has happened to him several times, and so this was a moment for us to kind of kind of bond again and bring him back, and that's when you saw us put our fist in the middle of a blood blood blood, and then he said norm at the end in fact, he threw that in as an Improv because he wanted to make sure that we were. There to show the audience that we were there on that one mission. Go get norm. Moving from talking about being a black, you know veteran in this film I WanNa talk to you about being a black veteran actor. I feel like it's an interesting time to be an accurate now. I see I didn't do that nor. Do that to me. But I mean if you if you if you think about veteran Broadway actors like there's no way that we can't include your name in like the iconic. That are among the Broadway stage and Broadway's really difficult time right now. There's some people who have no idea when Broadway's coming back right. We know that it's been postponed. Air Quotes until twenty twenty one but talk to me about being an actor right now. What is it like in the time of Covid with the uncertainty? Interesting question in the difficulty in in answering, that is that I think a lot of people are finding themselves with Ms. They are doing a lot of soul-searching doing all kinds of stuff. What I know that some people are doing is being very creative by doing concerts at home, or singing at home or Be Finding some space that they can dance and keep practicing their dancing. Some people are zooming a lot and doing plays on zoom. Some people are learning how to be demography filmography. Can you say the word, but they're learning how to do film And just kind of developing new skills, and there's some people who are saying you know what this is just too much for me. I'M GONNA. Give up my apartment and we leave new. York or La and go back home. And be with my family and try to figure out what I can do next because we just don't know what's going to happen. It's an interesting world I know that. The theater. The bigwigs are trying to think of. Maybe there should be a shield up against the stage or like in the audience, so that will separate the the air ration- of coming into the audience. Somehow I don't know. Everybody's trying to think of new ways to do this thing and The destroying to make it man I i. it's crazy I I'm doing a concert this coming week. Online and you know that's there's a new platform that I can sing on so I'm going to be making some money that way, but you know I'm also starting a new business working with my sister. Creating a real estate company where we buy and sell homes, so everybody's just trying to figure things out right now. Your son's like you're diversifying yourself and trying to figure out other ways to make this happen because we don't know how long this is GonNa be. Yeah, we don't. We don't end the thing about I've always been an entrepreneur. and I've always been into certain things. even while I was acting I came into this business of from the business world. I worked the nine to five for about. About five years, working in advertising for newspaper, and I've always had that kind of life okay I needed. Keep you know having multiple streams of income and what I liked to do is actually teach that to some some actors as well because we are a business, we are entrepreneurs wall. You didn't realize this, but you were giving a perfect setup to what I wanted to ask you next you. You said that you came from the business world, and you kind of like came into acting in if I, understand correctly, you are entering contests and then ended up on a cruise ship. How did that get started? Like king inside of walk us through how you began in that in this world? Yeah, yeah I. Try to make it brief because I'll start back in the beginning I is saying. Saying Insurance, my grandfather was a preacher. My Dad was the chairman of the Deacon boy so I lived in church, and the right of passage was. It's a follow your friends, and so I said Okay I'll join the choir. That's what everybody else did. We weren't known for being the bad is quiet in the land, but it. We made joyful noise. No matter if it was joyful, anybody else. And but I sang in, and no one ever said to me that I had a nice voice, so just sang. That was just something I. It was like a duty. Did that for years did that for years I got into high school, and in my junior year halfway through my junior year I was looking at my credits and I needed to have another elective and so I knew that I went to my counselor. My counselor just automatically put me in home. Economics and I'm like there's nothing wrong with cooking a sewing. I didn't WanNa do it at that time, and so I figured. Let me go to the choir because I like an easy thing to do I already saying inquire church, so let's see if. If this war and I got in. And that's when I found my love of diverse music I started seeing different languages and Broadway music and things like that, and from that it just kept going and even college majoring in business I still saying in the choir 'cause I just love doing it. I didn't I didn't finish school I didn't finish college, but per. Se, but I got left the school because I got a job in advertising, and they were going to send me back to school because I was already working for the newspaper and it would. Finish out my last year of school, but in that timeframe I started singing different contests at bars around town, and you would win like two hundred dollars, five hundred dollars or you'd you lose some winsome, but one in particular that I one one of the judges was a producer for cruise ship. Now I didn't know this, but after I won, he came to me and hey, how would you like to sing on my crews and to replace this guy who got sick? And I'm thinking. Wow, wait a minute. Hold on, you know you're interrupting my life right now. Because I already on the trajectory of having you know getting married, have my three point, two kids, and my BMW, but yet you're throwing wrench in that. And He told me how much I make in. You know Blah Blah Blah. And I decided to do it, and from there I met people who were in the show that were professional. Performers and they have been on Broadway and they've been working actors and they were like. Wow, you have the chops. You really think about going to New York. And again it was on fit blind faith and I jumped on the plane and went to new. York auditioned for things and haven't looked back since I smell with thirty years. will finish up with norm Lewis after quick break. Stay with us. It's Bullseye from maximum fun, dot, Org and NPR. To becky to Karen. Our very own Karen. KNAPP Beck Karen Karen Grigsby Bates shares the evolution of the nickname for a certain kind of white woman I'm looking forward to the next iteration I. Want My name back. That's coming up on NPR's code. Switch. Welcome back to Bullseye. I'm Jerry Hill and I am travel Anderson Jesse's. and. The maximum podcast Fanti is taking over. We're listening to jared interview right now. With Norm Lewis, the Broadway veteran Tony nominee who stars in Spike Lee's latest project to five bloods. Let's get back to the interview. Yes, what's? A. I mean I know that Broadway is notoriously overwhelmingly white, and I know that time is as well and I'm wondering like what are the distinctions that you've noticed or what? What are the similarities? Even as a that are difficulties as a black man In acting well, I think the opportunities I mean you know again I've been lucky to play the roles and I played but but I think the opportunities that come along you know, and I've been seeing from everything from a pimp to a lawyer, so a doctor and things like that, so I've covered the gamut, but. There are. Fewer opportunities than there are for white counterparts that's changed a little bit over the past couple years, or so because of the awareness of that, and I think that that will keep going especially now with with what has been happening in our society lately, but. I think just knowing that there aren't as many opportunities for black or people of color out there in order to get these jobs as fuel, and far between and few, and far between the ones who get these walls, so you know there's not like competition I'm happy when I see my brothers or my sisters get a role, but there's not as many rolls out there. I'm sure there are a lot of new actors at her new in the business or that are just kind of coming into the business that probably have questions for you about what they should be doing. What kind of advice are you giving actors right now and folks in the business about what to do right now and I'm sure like you've never been through this moment before. Like what? What is the feedback advice given them. The main thing is to find yourself like find some sort of spirituality. My main focus has been. Do not let your art validate who you are. Validate your art so dozen case I can never sing again or I. Can never do never get another show or whatever the case may be, I'll be devastated. But I know that I'm a person, and that's just a part of who I am I. Have there might there's like some other may be hidden talents or just other talents that I just haven't tapped into yet? To To Express myself and some of that might be service to others may be going back to school and learning a trade things like that, and especially because of were forced to stay at home right now. This is the perfect time to learn something new, and in fact I encourage going back to the entrepeneurship situation I encourage people to learn how to Code. I encourage people to learn how to do ECOMMERCE or affiliate marketing things that you can normally do from home anyway. To supplement your income, and while you're pursuing your dream, so find a sense of self because this businesses. No matter what happens, you could give your best performance that you have ever given like an audition and someone might come back and give you a critique like that was the worst thing they've ever seen in lives. You have to be strong enough to go well. Okay, that's your opinion. I'm GONNA keep going on my trajectory, or maybe you can learn from them. Maybe you can say well. What is it that is missing that you're not getting instead of being devastated I've seen a lot of actors get devastated. Need a lot of therapy. The thing about quitting the business and things like that because they got a particular critique From a casting, director or somebody you know that was. Able to hire them. so saying all that just basically getting a sense of self whether that'd be from our religion or whether you believe in science or defining some SORTA hobby. You know finding some sort of solace and meditating. And just know that you are enough. I have a really good friend by the name of Sierra Vargas worked with a lot, and she's such a spiritual person and she always goes around. She tells people you are enough. You're so enough. It's incredible. How enough you on. I just published piece where I was talking to black journalists about how they've been. Coping with an covering the news and a lot of the pieces, a lot of the piece where kind of unpacking how we've been feeling and what we've been learning about ourselves and kind of what you're talking about is finding your own spirituality? Finding yourself whatever you learned about yourself since we've been. Locked in the house for so long. Well. I kinda knew of things already, but. I I have patients I do have. I'm disorganized, but I'm. But I'm an organized disorganizer I try to like get things dime. But I just gotTa find that piece of paper that I wrote that note on. You know many things like that So? It takes me a little longer, but. Yeah, I'm just. I'm one of these people who wants to just kind of be of service. I want to I'm part of group called black theatre united and which was started after the George. Floyd, incident. Because, we wanted to have a voice from the black community, and we are a faction. There's many different sanctions that are out there. that are expressing themselves in a way saying. That they have. Either been wronged or a see the you know the the. Injustices that are happening within the Broadway community things like that, but it's me and some of the the veterans as you would say that are that got together as about nineteen of us that are the founders and wanted to come at it from a different perspective. We're definitely going to deal with. What Broadway has not dealt with for many years, but we definitely want to deal with societal issues right now. We just had Sherwin Eiffel from the. N. Double ACP Legal Defense Fund. Have a town hall responser that and talked about what we need to do moving forward as a as a community. We're getting ready to have someone else. I can't mention the name right now, but on the twenty four th. We're going to have someone else that you know very well. You do another town hall and we're GonNa talk about things like the Census and making sure you sign up for the census being. Were also GONNA have rallies dealing with voter registration, so we want to get everybody involved in that, and so we wanted to have that voice from the Black Broadway community, and we're GONNA be unified with other factions that are saying the things that they're saying and we're GONNA deal with those kinds of things as well and have mentor ships and scholarships, and and just be unified. I KINDA WANNA. Hang out here in the black theatre united thing for a little bit longer. I'm curious. The conversations that starts something like this are usually conversations about frustration, and not feeling, heard or seen or or valued. How did this begin for you? How did how did you get pulled into bacteria the United? I got a phone call. The shots wrote. The letter on Facebook, saying okay, it's been long enough producers of Broadway. It's been long enough. You know the leaders of railway or you'RE GONNA. Say Anything about this. Because nobody was saying anything I think it was too scared. Audra McDonald side, and they talk and they were like. Do something we do. You know because because like I said the Pandora's box have been open and a lot of the younger kids that were on Broadway or in the Broadway community theater community. We're talking about their experiences in how they felt disenfranchised in, and we're just going to San things in, and we understood that we respect that and we want to. Support that. But those two Audra and Leshan calls a bunch of us and decide to have zoom and said what can we do? What can we do? What can we do? What can we do? We just mold over a lot of ideas. We decided to become a corporation a nonprofit and we want Kinda. Just be like the N. double ACP of black Broadway, and if anybody feels like they are wronged or need some help, or whatever we wanna be those people that they come to that they can. We can. At least if we can't help the, we can guide them and put them in the right direction. And so. The way we're starting off by doing those things that I've mentioned before and talking about social reform, and then dealing with feeder reform from there and is making sure people who are accountable in the theater. You know, I have some experiences I've I can share I mean there's so many stories out there, but people need to be aware, and I think that I think this the again I go back. I always call it the George. Floyd incidents because I think he was the. The straw that broke the camel's back that made people realize that this is there's something wrong, and and now people willing to have conversations, so we wanna be able to help. Be that voice and having these kinds of conversations. You. Guys have a lot of heavy hitters working with you from. Luzon Kenny Leon Audra McDonald as you mentioned. Wendell here's Billy Porter Felicia Rashad Venice Williams so many like Anna. Deavere Smith like a lot of names people recognize, and it seems like there is this moment in America, where black folks have the ear of the country and have the opportunity to? Really Shift the conversation and shift the culture and hopefully. Away that is lasting impactful. What are some of the changes you would like to see? Come about and Broadway through black theatre united, and just more from from you know seeing people raising their voices and speaking up. Well I think from. A. Macro level I would say we want people to be. We want representation and diversity not only on stage, but in the producer arena and the general manager arena and the casting arena in the PR arena. Just, so there can be a voice. that. Can support. Those people who are on stage You know it's it's great. You know because I, you know I'm I'm honored because I got to play certain roles that are not necessarily black roles or race specific claim, the Phantom was definitely not a race specific role, but That's great to have that sort of representation onstage, but we need more equity off offstage, and it's all about equity I mean I think I'm Gonna I'M GONNA quote. Anybody but I. Know Martin, Luther King talked about that I know Louis Farrakhan talks about having equity is not about just equality. It's about equity and building that sort of stuff in a we need to have. People who have money 'cause I learned something. Interesting recently which? I did not know about, but I always questioned, but I didn't know this the the fundamentals of it, but people like Oprah. WHO'S A billionaire? You know? She wanted to put on the color purple on Broadway she had to get permission from the people who own the theater in order to put it in there, so she had to go through them in order to get the permission to put that show on stage as I make sense. because. They're leasing their leasing the land to her. Instead of her. I mean she could buy the building. But, right. But she had to go through them in order for that to happen and a lot of that power, that equity is a it becomes a little bit more. It becomes like a monopoly and you go so wow, and that's and that's not. That's where everybody it. It doesn't matter black, white or indifferent, but we want to have more people in power to be able to say that we can put these shows on. You know and not have to go jump through so many hoops so yeah, that's. We're trying to cultivate that sort of landscape. In the future, because there are people who are going to school who are learning how to dance act and saying, but probably won't get to the point of being you know onstage probably won't get to the point of being on Broadway, they might do local theater or something like that, but there were other ways to express themselves staying within the business, and if they're good Administratively, they can go into that art of what theatre is and then there's some people who actually just WANNA be backstage. Some people who love theater so much, but they WANNA be in the business area, this or the technical part of the The thing I mean there's not a lot of black women. That are backstage on in the technical I think there's one or two there's stage managers, but there's we can I can only think of one as as a sound designer, and that's all Broadway you know means, so that's. We want open that door for them. Norm, Lewis is in the new film. Defy blood directed by spike. Lee Stars obviously norm, but also delroy Lindo Chadwick Bozeman. Whitlock and fantastic cast of actors that are telling this really really unique story and so I'm just really grateful for you. spending some time with me and and talking about it. Well. I'm honored. Thank you for having a conversation with me and you know all the best to you. I'm big fan by the way and so. This is great. This is really great. That was norm. Lewis one of the stars of the new spike Lee Netflix's film defy bloods streaming right now. Norm was such a fun interview. I really had a great time chatting with him. If. You have any opportunity to go see him perform anywhere online. You can get his music on apple music. He's a fantastic artist. And really really great again. Check out the five blood streaming right now on net flix. 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"The report we are going to be reviewing Rambo last blood miles. I get to sit down and chat bill from Batman of Film Dot Com. We're going to talk about that journey hill news about what's happening in cold and a bunch of foursomes not three if that we're going to be doing a top five. I'll tell this week is unnecessary points that stay with you long after the film is gone and finally pardon me and John Talk about why see attribution uses laser is for anything above especially not for play in a cloud where there are already already too many film podcasts. You have to ask yourself. What's the harm in one two ordinary men armed with on unqualified opinions talk. Fill me to me welcome to talk with me podcast film podcast about News Entertainment General Pop Culture. I'm your host. I my name is Adam. Flynn on recording live on squad cost in my podcast. It's the caver I get my Godson that joining me more. Importantly is my co-host. My Wing Man Nagai's words video games like talk here. I can tell her I two day. Dj Hero a bunch of heroism stuff as well John Creek hide him. Amazing spin allows since you brought my game gaming past appreciate. How about you how are you doing? I'm good my uncle. Just I've really enjoyed. You'll you'll intro justice just because you came in lot Barry Watt for my headphones just now. It's just a little bit sick. So that sounds uh-huh of I'm good enough. It is a very very busy week with an invite some pretty cool stuff which will be reviewing the next couple of weeks but before we start our usual purpose of reviews and news and entertainment and all that sort of stuff I want to put in at first chats are had this week so I had to catch up up with bill from Batman on film Dot Com. We talked about the latest speculation about Darna. Hill potentially being cost in the new Batman movie along with Jeffrey Rights. We talked about that central casting. What does that mean for the the world going forward in terms of Batman oil asked a couple of urban myths about Batman Law. Oh she completely corrected me on is amazing when you speak. SAMIS simony industry contacts in knows dwelled inside out from that so it stops the Jimmy Wilson Chats. I WANNA put that stop full disclosure. We've done over skype and skype. Does what Scott does sometimes so. It has a little bit drop off but we've cleaned up. The old should sound sound own awesome. Well and good here is enjoy. We are delighted to be welcoming back. The Legend bilget rainy from Batman on film Dot Com the affirmative definitive Dadgum dadgum original how to handle legendary about that. I am doing good. Thank you thank you very very very happy at the moment because I want to say. We've been invited but that's not true. We've been begging we've been borrowing kissing. Every broths ring can to get an invite to to a joker screening for next week. I am so excited about this. Have you had a chance to see this yet yourself. I'm seeing it this coming Monday. So I'm in the same boat no with you right now. I'll see you next week so but I am very excited to see it. signed signed d think because obviously there's been limited limited featured screenings now. Alpha various critics at different festivals and things like that and obviously a lot of the talk is this is not only an amazing comic book movie but an Amazing Film. I'm for the next year in terms of award season and stuff like that. I think we're GONNA we're. GonNa see that is that Ohio different this real from talking into the Friends of mine who have seen it that I that I know and trust I'd say yes. It's real. I think it would be really ironic if walking. Phoenix got a best actor Award Oscar for playing the Joker when Heath Ledger got got a best supporting actor Oscar playing the same character just speaks to how great the joker joker the joker is and course Batman's rogues gallery so I would be a May level of formats for sure defanged inspire of a spin offs not sorry not spin offs but these kind of standalone interesting stories based on that rogue's gallery also oh absolutely I hope they they do. I I would like to see several these DC's got some great characters. I would love to see these type of one offs I don't. I there's not a they don't have a name for this this brand of film yet you know we it goes by black label kind of sort of just just for the sake of of having something to call it but yeah I would. I would love to see them spin off having you could do it with that. Medicare he could do with superamerica a superman characters. I think you can do it with any any of these DC characters so inspector dead man. This is just a lot of tournaments. That would love to see this kind of approach to yeah. Now I agree with you completely off. It was even yourself kind of campaigning for this back in the day. When it was everyone everyone was going for the shared universe and I think it was. Even you guys were saying look. That's already been done do something. That hasn't been done and you know from what we're seeing from. The trade is a beautiful and I think a lot of people kind of forget that yes okay taught Phillips's. Done films like the hangover doesn't mean you can't go and make other beautiful things things and this is something which is we shouldn't be judging a bit by its cover and I think we're open taken quite surprised by this. It's a good way yes. I mean look. I've said this. I don't know if I'm GonNa like joker or not. I hope I do but I applaud warner brothers for doing something different with this John Nra I talked to Michael about several times and you know he said this is what this is what the genre needs right now and needs something like joker to kind of shake it up and and you know he he know inspire not just warner brothers in DC but even you know marvel to do do something like this because I mean and at some point the shared universe the former you know being a formula type approach where it's almost TV episodic facade. We'll get a little bit old so yeah. I applaud them for doing the ascend. Give me more what what she huge. Studio art are comical. Go Company comes from and speaking of more because it feels like an age ago. The Batman was even announced as a as a crisp of an idea even when it was supposed to be bad brian impending I mean I'd love to know what the original Tom non is based property near towards a decade time the actual film comes out anyway and we're on the cusp of some more stuff with the Batman. It sounds like they're really gearing up for casting and I wanted to get your opinion on this. I don't know if this is true yet and as of time of recording my understanding is that this is still rumor but it looks like that Jerry Hill is guys be involved in some shape or form. What is Jeffrey Ryan. I was wondering what your opinion was on that. I think both would be great additions to the cast. I'm more familiar with Jonah Hill. you know he's not. He's not just the fat kid from Super Bad anymore. He's become very very good actor. Stands out. You know moneyball etc.. I think we think ping one just because of his previous stature but you know physically but I think it could be. Maybe he's re. I mean like right now. He's like rail thin dude whatever he's working on so but he's a really good actor. I know him a lot from a Howard stern fan that he's he's a frequent guest and then it turned me on watching this movie so yeah. I'm all about yelled Jeffrey Right I think it's great. I think he's the things I've seen him in his been fantastic and I have no issue with what some people some fans fans of said you know we we need a quote. Unquote Comic Book Accurate Jim Gordon but I think he would be it would be great right so I hope they I think that's a done deal. I think for sure Jeffrey is Gordon's of Dundee Yeah and again you guys champion get to good actor I and then then more about the look in the field and these guys like site by incredible actors. Yes absolutely I think like you said it's kind of now. With Jeffrey Roy of everyone sign about commissioner golden which is interesting direction say fantastic acts are really really interesting. I love his voice. He's pronunciations always very very unique and paper inside the obvious Vagina Hill is to go penguin but now why but I'm fading like he could be a really good. CLARIFIES could be look. He could play any character. He's he's very fine actor. I like I said I think people look at him and they think Oh that was that kiss him super bad but but you know he's not that anymore and and not that he's you know he's not not that he's ashamed of super. Bad Pets Helena field great. It's classic but I think that's where they go to you. Know who says the Penguin has to be a big fat guy now. I know I'll say hey that as where I was told. The character description was short obese big nose. You know stereotypical over the comic books but you know maybe they do something different and maybe not the thing maybe eats whatever you know. Ritalin I under several characters in this this film. Several villains are meeting this film so it could be any of them. Yeah agreed is kind of funny how this is client gone full circle in a weird why you've seen the film. Ted to the Mark Wahlberg McFarland commodores it so in the sequel they go to comic con and there's one scene where they have clearly. DC doing an announcement of say. I can't say DC but ah on the next Superman is going to be journal. Hill and there's a quick fan boy what mark moment and so jarring hilly's still somehow got into the movie. Eh hopefully anyway yeah. I I agree if you've rogues gallery is incredible. It's such a rich tapestry and in your opinion because obviously and because because of our last child I can't help but just think of Andy Circus needs to be penguins cyber my mind. That's my penguin now but if journey hill is something else that maybe we've not seen before however that's clarify so whatever lines they go down. Do you think that because there's an characters which are so fantastic also in Nova realms of impossibility defense movie is going to be kind of Nolan grounded or is it. GonNa go a little bit out there so it can bring those more crazy characters in I think it'll be it won't be as hyper realistic. Quote Unquote is the Nolan films. I don't believe that but I think I think it's going to be grounded. Detective movie with with action. I I don't know how far Matt Reasons GonNa push the the the envelope when it comes to say a man batter Klay face or are you whatever character but but I think you know on the the other hand. There's ways to do those characters. Don't it's not you know original version of clay phase was he was a master disguise he was. It's not a big big BLOB of mine. Who could shake shifts so there's there's ways to do these characters so but I think I'm thinking more in terms of a more grounded approach but a little bit more stylistic I if that makes any sense with you took to are you at all yeah that makes sense and I suppose the only thing and this is where I can make films films of course butter what I find find interesting about. This particular approach was that they sing to be looking at people without knowing what they're going to be and that suggests is that the story still quite up in near the moment which is Kinda disappointing considering. We've been waiting so long process to get to this point feels like a really long excellent then again because of the the deflate flapping for for lack of a better word of what was happening Post Justice League. It kind of feels like what's going hang on here. Don't get people like Jeffrey. Roy Involved and I know that Sir in the back room people being hired for us this the king set design will rising because he's really talented people. Are you concerned that they're hiring people without knowing exactly where they're going. You know I think the script I I think the story is done. The script has done so. I'm not worried about that whatsoever. I think that they said you know Jona hills a hell of an actor. Are we got these characters. Let's see let's talk to him. See what would interest him. What what what fits and we'll go with its tone. I think if you start you know it's amazing. Sometimes it's just you know a Naji on actor or actress for her role as an extra but sometimes you know you. Just you know you you kick. I mean Hell when he ledger was cast as the joker Dr Night it wasn't that no-one envision him as the joker is that he wanted to work with Heath Ledger and they had the dog nine nine and you know there was over character just came B.'s. You get a good actor and it'll take the wrestling evrensel that is very true today and I think I don't know how treatises suggested didn't Anne hathaway at Cheo addition as a holiday Quinlan's character and didn't even know she was applying to be a cat woman. I have never heard that in in terms of a Harley Quinn character. I know she she really wanted to be kept woman in from what I know she. She tabs it for cattleman. I'll I'll leave it at that. I don't think that she I don't. I've never heard that so I know I know for the fact that she was like no. We called her in for for the female lead and was probably cat woman and she was like really want the job then that's just from from what for my press experience around the Dark Knight Rises got the interview her on the set that in two thousand eleven and of course the press junket twelve so that's you know. I was in there so let's say I'm not that's why we talk to you bill because it seems it seems very the bullshit of the Internet and speaking of a room is going on. I'll turn where read this thank about. Pierce Brosnan not talking about taking any truth behind that is there. Is it just again. I'll chop it up as rumor. I I heard that long ago before they even became a thing so woah as as it sits right now I have no idea I think it would be a good fit. I think it'd be great as thirty and wouldn't they. You know anyone who's played. Properly should at some point during Alfred them showed as Kurdish in there yes and you know he he was in eighty eight eighty seven eighty eight when they were putting together Batman Eighty nine he was he was one of the the actors they considered for for Batman so that's you know he's got kind of a kind of sorta connection to the ranch is that's amazing. I mean I I personally think that Jeremy Irons was a great or that was a great opportunity. There and it's just a shame he never got to say. Do you think that they should make a clean break from anything to do with previous incarnations or is there a world where maybe we could get some of the things we did like out of the Snyder so what that just be a bit too messy I think with bat with with the Batman East Batman Films is going to have no. It has nothing to do with anything that came before before you know Robert Patents Batman is not a younger version of been applesauce Batman. I it's you know no. It's just its own thing. I mean obviously Jeffrey ride and their recasting these roles and I I use the term gas in their casting the roles for with this movie as director envisions you know they essentially what they did is they. They kept what worked you know. Gal Gadot wonder woman. Luckily and I'll say that Jason Momoa Plan Apple Man because you know that film was was filming before the Justice Debacle and I'm not so sure that that that it would have been made if it supposed to come Hafer as many white. You're GonNa get another aquaman movie. They're going to they're going to of course they're holding onto margot. Margot Robbie is Harley Quinn. I think you just move forward with that. At may the solo films that are that are good and talented filmmakers. No don't worry about continuity. You're trying to connect connect stuff you know by all accounts should not have been successful as it was but somehow how'd I managed to put out the bag and make a great film where I don't have to spin offs will actually happen like the deep and stuff and if we do see them then then bully for it right because is like you said it's good to see these different films these different styles and show us something that we necessarily accustomed to God. I'm sorry excited about this film. How Long We've got count on your website. If we have a free on Judah something guy we're down to less than two years two years now so you know what dude is why I look at it. I'll sake you know people say I can't wait for this to happen. Is You know I'm paid. Batman begins was fourteen years. Ago was was what we eleven years ago. You know and you remember you. Lake back you think back how we couldn't wait for it to get here ear and they'll made a tier and then we see it and it's like okay what's next so enjoy always say job. The Rod is the fun part and especially now with the Batman. This is ramping up and it's really GONNA be fun. The casting and we're not too far away from seeing some of the first maybe a logo for the film and probably Pattinson as Batman so yeah. I'm I'm excited and I'm just I'm. I'm savoring all right now. I'M NOT GONNA I'M GONNA wishing I wishing Batman them. Live away rattling any sense now. It's hard to agree with you. I loved tidbits GonNa Style. I was gutted that we did not really get anything. Drop on Batman and I always hoping we would get a pitcher because I'm now he is. He's been trying on ice so tonight. It's going to be the final suit but yeah it would have been great to have seen a little bit better but we go the bat signal shop around the world and said it was even bats -at's buffet so what yeah once joker here in it's done. We're GONNA start seeing what will start seeing more quarter quarter quote official announcements for sure. They're you know they're gonNa let let the spotlight Shanley joker here for the next month so and we'll start ticketing gear gear here in late October November well with that being said. Let's call it the Codex Silo Much Bill. I'm going to code the interview you before Joe because either fading we're going to be saying there's movies before Jerry and then this job and hopefully we'll get even more talk that in the near future Asia thanks again absolutely yes absolutely anytime man always a pleasure to be speaking to the legend that is bill but it's quite interesting so on Monday they will be going to a press screening of the Georgia Connor White guys bail review f the next pod we want him to a special about it depending on how much we like it or not like it as the case. Kayce maybe but something that I really wanted to get much s in discuss about an assay on films with her and a lot of media outlets talking about this film being quote unquote. I'm quite dangerous like like glorifying things that we don't want a nest fear of of aspires paperback in spite buddies enduring stuff which probably shouldn't do to the extent naturally in America they are banning anyone going increase Jovica into into cinema screenings in favor of shootings and things like that now I mean I definitely an sympathetic anyone's whose lives have been affected affected by gun culture and I definitely agree that there certain thing precautions. We should be taken Try remove these impediments now in guys but to blind fucking film is just absolutely ridiculous. He's just all I'm on barking up. The wrong on this John or is that she a concern I detail. I'm a little torn because this was an actual tip off to the. FBI wasn't the FBI ads. There was something going on like they might have caught called windows of a planned attack cinema with with this film at base a funny one because the films the jokers social outcast who ends up doing some pre heinous things so it ties in but I'm Kai at the end of the day. I think I'm with you. It's you don't WanNa stifle art. De Uncensored what you're making if they have to take precautions than you know what what sensible but yeah I'm still at with yea why you guys off as film like someone put it out on them onto a diet which again everyone's everyone's entitled to opinion and not everyone knows everything so sometimes things that we will miss and everything else but some signed literally this summer but with open open high fiving and saying how amazing Joan Winfrey was and he killed like a hundred people in that film he gets dogs in fact the amount of films with paypal April that have dogs that have been trying to buy someone's Dick. It's been a surprising number of talks instead of our the last six months we sit airing. Guy Ooh should should we taboo conversation about the use of dogs in film in what does that mean in terms of the public zeitgeist inspire someone to try net dope to go but someone's Nakazono probably no and there's probably a lot of other things you can go off the right last. Que Les Cater Films and religion set for it but white band of fucking Bible. Would you do that do not. I mean there's so many of things that you can get inspiration from which dude depicts things you probably inspired but but it's all it's defensive. ECON suspend disbelief enough that you can actually be programs the day something is a result of seeing that then than the joke commodities probably the last thing that's going to make you do something anyway because things would have inspired you long before now on on the roadside disarmament the other night but it really does growing gays America that you you know America has a gun coacher where someone can take in a fifteen fifteen to send them all a lot probably varies from state to state but ever open carry places donate public places and the joke is a social outcasts loner and this is supposedly a kind of more sympathetic portrayal of that so a character so often as what consent is bat that yeah having says more about their gun coach than an finance. That's that's the issue in my opinion now offense fair enough enough but yeah if I see another like Tyke opinion pace on the same page Buddha attained gonna be at the screening next week will. Roy Ing like the prices are Coz. When it's award season like you can't have a Canadian and it feels like you just fighting in my opinion but then again it is not one Saito holiday. Anyone is actually saying this film as well. Let's just get one thing a handful of journalists around the world actually cygnus movie the amount of like attention. This is getting to the point where King Phoenix in-interviews has had to like justify and had had to keep his paypal basically trying to go into saying something which is going to add more fuel to the fire. Even director has come out and said stuff DIRECTS REX is probably said a few too many things in terms of components of movies. Nothing I think just let the film release and then be more of a judger Gitmo judgment on it from that but her nose anyway. I'm not an old man yelling at cloud something that I wasn't yelling about this guy in scenarios news. Yes US let let's rejoice okay so let's. Let's hope that this spy ban. MCA that was a decision made that spot man with not being EMC so you know deal if you will and then all of a sudden calm hands provide a smart mines looks at this and looks in the cold light of day and realize has that no deal was not in the best interest of Sony Mobile side. I reversed the decision of the looking at the evidence and learn the hold we have spiderman back in the MC. You aren't trying to be more political undertones in that but I am fucking so happy spot on is that in EMC. There's going to be one the more spiderman movie which will be deferred in homecoming trilogy as well as a number parents in the Nevada. MCA maybe John Up in crisis you about is h up in looking the picture of Tom Holland hanging out with tiny stock to good old days. I'm so happy happy to talk about this but I have a so replace what as a layman Spiderman Fan. A layman can't say that right. What does this mean for the stats is that listening specifically this means that infused into future for spider man. Tom Holland by allowed to reference the MC and the past and the reason from what is important is because in the film that literally just came out a month ago it was basically grounded in Odi events that happened in the MC dust fall at sign many of the the actors and characters like happy Hogan played by none other than John Fabric which I saw season of chef like fucking watcher is so good it's basically just jump five right hanging out with really cool people making delicious food and you're just sitting there going just wanted. Cheese Sandwich O.`day anyway it back to what it means himse it means that as mentioned it's going to be ingrained in that law. It means that the story can continue in terms of some of the things that put in Nebula also means that Tom Holland is allowed to appear in other marvel movies set at might the movie or that might be as a supporting member in someone else's maybe who knows but but there's a world of possibilities that stays open talking about motivation stuff so I think tom hunting probably will pay in inside the best seat cool lending his voice so do something amazing valuation because let's face it. The first film rewrote the rule book on animator animation and there's no change here for some pretty Gustaf side yet. That's what that means. It means everything's possible again and it's not going to a lot size. It will fight. It's Andrew Garfield movies where they screw approach and you go basically can fall back in the foul signs of during retracing Kevin Feige. He's also a very very busy boy because he is actually eh just signed on. Apparently it's official now. He has to produce star wars film with Kathleen Kennedy at at some point in future now considering with authorized rise of Skywalk coming out in Christmas time that means the loss of plans. We don't necessarily know where a the guy who stole was next so this is quite exciting at John. How exciting if EPSTEIN I'm excited. I'm excited about the the the end of it not in a valet. I am passive Star Wars Fan but odor spin offs an idea tonight the prequels the spin off so the extras. I'm not excited. I have to be honest. It fails like Disney or going to milk this least until there's nothing left. They spend money on an. FBI probably recouped here already but yeah that's so my failings cynical go. How about you. I'm I was off the LAS jet. I was one nice people that didn't necessarily like it too much and I can enjoy our connect knowledge. Did you exists paper that once the guy kicked down Ron Johnson's plateau site but yet I do have side did not agree with some of the direction direction he went with that but as we when we reviewed this film two years ago now scary effing Jalan in now I applauded the direction action the boldness it took to make those decisions side yet. Star Wars isn't just swelled and it's interesting that the going in this different direction voters different people one of the things that are there have decided that it feels lot lightest one. They tried this approach of Annan storytelling storytelling. I mean by that is there doesn't appear to be an overarching narrative right from the start that Kinda went alright. Jj have seven at don't worry about where it goes next just just build often end will carry the torch carried a baton on Ron Johnson come in and basically took what Gigan- and decided to sexually redcowmn somebody that you didn't like an add some new elements in Hazara image of how he wants to tell a story not necessarily knowing where the the end game is going to be called upon with the EMC stuff and now with goats jj coming back because was originally meant to dependence off ofter a disagreement with Disney. Hey He left and he went back to his domestic franchise. Some federalism Jiji is now trying to pick up the pieces and land the ship and that means that we've got a lot of people fading attorney. Now it is going. It's not really the objective is really and not names that we're not Getting somethings get hyped about of it ends. That's the only thing we know and we're gonNA talk to it. Says Rise of Skywalker code is going to be sky woke up with it's about an heritage. You'll look himself for orphaned can between that way. What we've done has been actually we've got a narrative. If we know about planning at the the best part of twenty three films twenty three films not saying that if done that to a every detail was now begin with obviously London discovered stuffed I went along but I had a I had an end point and it feels like style was his now stylings gotten. Actually we probably should have gone that. Price rocketed in hindsight. We probably should have had I. I started where we need to get to so going forward. It sounds was interesting. Not where we're GonNa go what's going to happen. You got someone like Kevin Foggy giving a guiding hand now yes. This is only for one movie but you don't get someone like Kevin. fogging just for one movie on for issue is to console and help out wherever else he can answer. It's interesting to see what a guy from believed that the Ron Johnson trilogy is not going to happened. Mo Opinion. I think that jury to the negative around the last Jedi I think Disney a slowly stepping away from that trilogy idea Is this guy trilogy. I have a failing nets that gyns be heavily involved with John. Fat Fryer and Catherine Kennedy's full in the future chuck saw can imagine Disneyland when source material they have really good at adapting it lot game Fridays but that law season Um. I know these are the right guys anymore but would have been someone like Kevin flaky work than it makes sense right. I'm not saying that they would have fired him or anything like that. by all nine firing rises they fired. Lord Miller from silo movie and those guys boiled accounts had a great film in fact there is a version of that film that exists exists Never GonNA release it which is a shining suffield out. There is probably a world where we do get as a feature on a dvd or something batum but yes sorry John. That's a really a long winded way of saying. I'm excited. That's good. That's good I mean. Star Wars obviously starts as a brainchild of a genius this idea and then exploded into this huge film. you know the talent. I've got the talent pool they can use. Now on. These films is incredible. but is it too. Many cooks spoil the Broth Flynn. Yes you probably right. I think that it actually looks okay. It's the old things announced I said a trilogy of Ron Johnson a trilogy rhumba game of thrones guys now another film. That's being voted on which is Paul is traditional that she's on all that that's the one with Kevin Foggy now retracing you've also got the man delorean the TV show that's coming out in Disney plus in December which John Five right has been directing. We've it has been. I think he's been the Sherry runner and has been loud special guest directors Taco. I T's Wrexham Bateson doesn't voice of a character as well and you've got a bunch of other stuff off which is rumor mill road. It's on it'd be one. TV show immigration reprising his route so yeah you're right. There's probably a law might be a bit of saturation but then again you nine papal cider about the marvel movies and I think people who say that the paper that aren't actually wochit except I watched it understand why and what he's doing billions of Dulles Lasko Cohen ESCO judge but there's a reasonable is like an hour we had the like. She said it best like yeah they will stop if money if money as Kazan good so that keeps making good stuff then. It's not really a bad thing at the moment side yet. Let's let's see what comes out but I do have a failing that Ron Johnson trilogy is not going to happen. 'cause there's been no no discussion about it now. Just yea back in the day we went Ron Johnson over say right. Try to an after that that was it nothing and Ron Johnson. He's left stuff at the moment I mean to to counterpoint in that. Ah I mean bad movies are making a lot of money. I'd say more than ever before but that is true that Ashtray Latin is a prime example that cyber billion. They're gonNA make a sequel to it as well yeah I I. Hey a Assad who fucking loves. These fields bad one yet yes. I'm Dana grumpy old man 'cause. I've just gotten over pay now now. about Gone Gone Segue chair you up my drastic grasset welfare as we know we we could over Joyce that the og cost is coming back foot properly coming back so drastic world phoning kingdom that kept saying Jeff go blames back in Jeff. Goldblum is going to be a big part of it and the truth was it was just one saying I put the front end the end at movie candidate with a little space she dons house. Oh I felt cheapen felt ripped off still enjoyed the film but we got the RG cost back. This is really exciting. Laura Dan at Jeff Goldblum and SAM new again be reprising prizing narrows that still keeping Chris Pratt and brace status how'd Chris price-to-earnings absolute best to somehow not get work but he's Switzer or social media the activists if you fall out at that site it is a bit Steinbach religion they apply you might but let this lead. Just keep stuff to yourself. Just stop talking looking Guy Bites Biondi note some pre and how it's basically like he's he's a member of a church and and he very school views on stuff and that been bit comdemning. If that's the right word of setting behind it I am Hayes sign paper outright Asian stuff lot laughing kate religion and culture pot in my opinion and yet you're entitled Spear beliefs but not expensive is it stunts verge on the expensive as in my opinion and just makes us off off. Mike is frowned anyway. Hey it's going to be back in Dressy Wilfredo. Him Toss yet. Colin trevorrow has been doing the rounds recently on various media outlets. The Ozone Empire Live podcasts at a couple of weeks guy absolutely great interview listening to him and yes. I am so excited about this. The only thing is like we talked about this when the short movie drops a couple of weeks ago about the big rock. Where can they take this and how can you imagine costs come back in a meaningful way and I hope they're used in a way to not just just pop up the styles that make sense. I hope it's not just a a five second his new wrestling of rap turn saying hey ago kid. You'll the new indy okay yeah I want that. I want a nice story on the actually involves Minna meaningful way back Samoa Seguin Jon Gruden interested Puck film in fact the same way that at the laboratory and they're wondering around Anez Avoi- Saliva down ten head to the docks in the next ten minutes that was done by Lonzo Jackson because they're like thought we needed some background noise and didn't have a voice that says if they Tanui announcement so I just go. Samuel Jackson stood on Shirl. That's the kernels of dislikes suspect of news that Samuel Jackson is going to be the first celebrity voice on Amazon Echo devices under Amazon Echo. You can have in the nephew Samuel Jackson telling you what the web is. GonNa be. Wow you know I just hear that CEO cynically but I I mean that. What is he getting paid for that and secondly. That's just a nice friendly way of saying. It's okay don't worry about having listening devices in your home because because we can make it sound like your favorite actor. Oh go be a fair bit gross after that news flinty severeness unlike this incredible what a wake-up certain objects lieutenant meter news yeah. I talked to gravy nights. Too is a bit creepy from that perspective. We'll other voices like separate. Reactive voices has to be film that that you you'd have an assistant who would I have. Who Do I love. I probably have someone like David umbrella. That would really that would really make me comfortable with having everybody in the room. That's a lie the robust Gimme a proper robot so that I remember remember remember your robot and you address that Hall Scarlett Johansson Have you Oh Sirbu Jeffrey riots already distinct voice that shopping. I think he'll be quite good oh. AM mckellen it will be quite good him in Waikiki. Ed Guys isn't that they're all ready and I'm applying Dr Pierce Brosnan. He's got nice saving living voices back. There was a simpsons episode where his voice than I assistant in a Halloween horror. Maybe it's predicting the future not be interesting. Oh Anne bonds any boned. Oh God you gotTa Have Sean Connery Good Morning Kershaw Morning News Sira so yeah getting coincide with Switzer Eddie's actors that you'd like to add voicing around. You're just before we wrap up. News is dropping being very very soon. The Irish meant the school sight easy epic which is Netflix original another trial I think is the final one and it is shining us. The real so of sperling timelines films guys covered so the point that I have ice Robert Deniro. It's the point whereas in his twenties as in his sixties and opinions but John. What's your force. I'm intrigued about your opinions now. I kind of fall that this trailer Ella has a lot of sort of de aged old men and I fought on the how they looked pretty goods deniro sort of it looks like when he saw four or five ish did it show them even younger than that yet as saying where lecture freeze ward dies and it kind of looks like a playstation game but it probably a bit more Polish I mean I'm surprised is that going down this route as much as they are but I think it's just a case of the Auburn every Shard Robert Deniro and he's range that will be has across these spanning most kites and how can we do to it's quite funny because there was a thing on films with the various actors who have this is my age range. I know sharing different people who in different now in conduct a full square thing. I know Robert Deniro Canal go inside for twenty year olds again and then another one stop saying I CEO Robert Deniro. 'em Raise your pull rod and it's just full pictures of the Sign Pool Rod because he just has an ice in the last twenty years yeah I it. I really liked trailer. They got me excited about this movie. As you know we are already excited netflix original bringing a a sort of getting a band together field there isn't it yeah definitely just hope it's not going to be when radio bands get get back together and it's not as good but no one wants to admit it but as me being organ. I'm sure I agree if you'll concerned and butts accounts because there's been some greatness and from what I've heard insane from people is that doesn't think this is good fellas. Oh like this. The kind of Tradegy Casino Goodfellas in this is that the movie is not that as I'm writing his own pacing so bad in mind. It's quite a long watch sire. Are Your thinks it's just a quick also on the background you go down ready ready breathe in but I mean come on you look at this cost Scusi. Se Back. You've got a Al Pacino Robert Deniro aw is just. How can this not be Good Avis. Yes Mike she even if it just makes you sit there and think about Odhiambo films they've been in. That's still enough for me. A Lot Amendment Bury's any amend the very trip. They're really excited about. Ah Either Nate de aging thing kinda showed it to some of them. They were like that sounds you know. I'm aware that new technology. It's been using films now. I'd highlight to see myself as a twenty year old again be fun. I recognize a big seven point for these actors. Very I think the more reference material you've got the better. It looks Samuel Jackson Captain Marvel is conduct the prime example like that is Samuel Jackson from the northern seas like that done such a good job with that and it's not a case of bigest. CGI actor in back to win done the performance and then I just enhanced it. We've digital assets got from from all clubs and that's great ninety stuff but obviously with Robert De Niro the is she's at this so reference material to God's property choir goes. It must be really hard. It must be really challenging too tight is assets and put them in a way which the is used themselves believable but doesn't look rubbish again. It's h time I say these traders. They're getting better and better off the adding more and more polished each time. I'm sure someone usually will do a time line of showing Dan you how'd you effects have improved from China's Trisha hopefully of a little bit more Polish. Ill look even fuck it. As long as we story Scorsese. We're GONNA get outside yet. CanNot whites will be reviewing that in a couple of weeks time so no way you're dealing with with guns with knives. This was the best I finally he came home. The different Iran vote last blood is the final movie in John. Rambo's illustrious career at this is directed by Adrian Brumberg is based on a story written by Dan Gordon Investors Salone officer we know slides no strangest being behind the camera directing and writing some of the best parts of the rookie he franchise as well as some of the more questionable parts of the John Rambo Franchise. Essentially this story clues in the title is the last film in the series surrender. Stallone's Rambo has come home. He has come to to mend bridges specifically the bridge with his niece who's client like he's emotional. Anchor to society in the world he he lives out in a in Iran Jonah farm. He's been building lots of traps and survival thingies because old habits day heard and yeah he's been trying to bill who disliked again and keep in close connection with his niece white guy into spoiler details but essentially a Mexican cartel has gotten hold of his niece and she might might be lost to the sex trafficking traits. Rambo goes across the border to go bring her back think taken with a smidge of first blood inness as well. The action is as gory as held the one liners Selena road in my opinion and this isn't as bad as what of the other media outlets are reporting that says is not great still. I think what the biggest shame about this is that if we think about the involvement sly as had with rocky in the last few years in particular in the way he is breathed this character and lived in gave a hero's welcome. Anna Heroes ending with the WII rookie has been handled in those crate movies that same care to the attention to the character has not shown in this part the franchise unfortunately this is not all is not as emotional not as impactful and ultimately just lazy guy at the end of it. Yes there's some interesting bit sadness essentially literally of saying as you couldn't tell and he does eventually get his knees back as traders indicates and he has to have like a last stand at his ranch. It's kind of like home alone. It was an eighties Gore movie aimed at adults and that's probably the highest praise I can give it is being panned at the moment and a school has a quite low hello evening of original writer of the first Rambo movies come out and said this is a piece of shit down see I wouldn't. I wouldn't pay hard earned money to go see this. They're all white into it. Comes out in very the streaming services will spoil or whatever it is kind of a shame that this is how the franchise ends but a spouse it still is at something it warrants its existence and it's just that it's pretty lifeless. There's just no nothing that makes me think Oh. This is the action film the as I almost like some Hollywood producers sat there and just went you need to take install movie and you've got John Rambo. Let's just stick together in a smelting and we'll put in like this this last stand hi Stella man at the end wherever come after you John and and you set lots of booby traps around it's going to be great and I'll be honest I and also the depiction of Mexico. Toco in this film is on the nose. I don't think it's dump sickly tastefully and I do think that this is kind of pandering to a certain audience anyway anyway and that aside. I'm going to go to our five is Rambo. Movie is what you see is what you get you not going to be thinking about. This is a film of the year and you're gonNA forget quite right quickly and to be honest. You got me more hyped about thinking about. West lies going with rookie if he does make an appearance again in Crete movie rather than thinking. Let's give a fitting ends. It's to John Site. They have to out five. Rambo loss blood yeah so that was a big. Downer isn't it. They ran by loss blood. Yes unfortunately it's not always heights up to be a bit of a shame but you know what is going to cheer me up though Joan you've got to have a I'm avenue yes. John will have another top five six weeks. Top Five is top five unnecessary or useless plot points which have nothing to the story yet. Stay with you along off the film has gone will Cena Film Way Guy. What health done that or how did that actually impact the story and then literally months or even years later. You've got about a film but you still remember the stupidly data files. which is the only thing we can do best? Tocqueville vis-a-vis Sarah. I'm going to start with one of them. Join Armageddon. The classic film is it was a disaster movie fears. It deep impact on getting wet. You sit on the scalp because this is important. odd got along with Magadan. It's called a sick feeling yeah. I agree if you Manama get man Oda. Odom Day pat was quite good as well. 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I was GONNA spend money in my lifetime anyway so yeah yeah did maybe maybe that they were being very. Are you like clever and ironic. It was going to end and we're arguing about money. So thank fake is probably Michael By. I do slag off quite a bit on this podcast. I O comes from a place of lava. I've watched a bunch of talking films. I think so and anyway buckle by GONYEA. I'm doing this for the for the a WHO can man out they stick to the president our pay my fucking Texas because I'm Bruce Willis and on the side Miami live a mighty but then whenever I think of Michael by and against GP distractions and why was that in that film completely of so you think about the transfer of movies and there's one insane in Asia extinction which is number two of the top five as extinction as a plot point where WHO's about to go to college in America and she's got a friend an up and coming ruddy stall who sponsors WHO's about to be sponsored by Red Bull and they decided to bailout y. 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In film that Saves Night Pappas one of my favorites Hook is yeah I think Abou- when she becomes fo- size and then shrinks back right down I mean what was the point in that I think has literally because Judy Aerobics probably demanded screen screen time somehow but I agree something creepy about that because he's implying light peter and tinker bell like if Welsh were slightly the different that may be together if it could fit well yeah she can go joon as well right side. There's other nowadays I agree with you that something pretty creepy about that and GM as a kid. I didn't think about it and so I just think when the most charming amazing movies which yard for the record is the what you look at that adults is you got what why is she and why she likes other night presenting herself to in the dream sequence where she's like at outside indecisively sign that she loves him and you don't have. It's like a a childish. I love you like a family. Member love or is it. Hey now is your man. Give me a co Mrs Robinson so thing and but yeah it does with you long after doesn't it that one yeah it's a way it's I've got level when and the Matrix reloaded A. K. Niu and trinity have sex right about the the cave orgy is that yes but it's not a kind of sexy sex scene. It's just right. 'cause it's deny you the whole thing just features ex pointless and strange. and I don't know why they put enough but I I mean. What did you enjoy that well? I Yeah Festival. It's like the the mice on sexiest sexier you can imagine isn't it but I'm sorry I couldn't help help but think I remember watching in the cinema on the with Mugabe and assessing can select he left the Matrix for this like you sit in a cave and you basically in fear of dying everyday side you think faulk and that's that's kind of what was going on in that cave wife garage on each other while Neon trinite era in a in a cake somewhere but I think the reason why that scene exists this just my opinion. Nyon is that trinity and Neo Above Sire Binary in terms of that person is right is that it feels void of emotion. Sometimes sometimes I think what they're trying to do is I showed that the areas of genuine chemistry between the two of them ends they are in love Nihar couple and and the human ends express that and this is trying to add a bit of humanity to them but I will you know when we're not saving the world or trying to rescue humanity and we've got a moment together. Yeah Fuck Fuck you NISI. I get white like the concept of wider arena. It's execution just might him look even more right both taken binary Have you ever tried ski province. That's where they were kind of. Gannett Gannett Kinky. Maybe the applied allow a pay who spent a lot of time talking about that saying than at low amount parts that film and actually if you wait skyward woods on the talking about the concepts of a full nitric movie. I watched the Matrix reloaded recently. Honest does not hold up the first one has been redone in cinema recently Donald. I didn't get a chance guys say I think the Prince Charles via arena in London during knock a real big screening of its markets twenty anniversary or something about that and it was on skull on. I watched washed again. The First Matrix movie much definitely holds up. It's still one of the best films ever in my opinion and yet the sequels we get stuff like rubber feist men beating up the I. Whilst at the same time sex in caves side yeah. I agree with you on that just nightside. We'll put that in that top five definitely with you with you hook one as well but just an honorable mention envy the site one of my favorite films will time right again and I'm an apologist for if there is such a thing but as one little thing which I think why do I spend just thinking about this afterwards so uh I have but yeah no I think once Oh this might go have my head but go on site will Smith's House Pittsburgh and basically to cover up the fact that plant in bugs everywhere okay and I took his blender and will Smith is a yacht golf club Yuppie Club. Everyone code it and he's in the locker room. Talk to his best night and I took to wearing some clients they took. My blender. Lender is Ikea Wise. I'm mad about my blender and he's like Oh. I love that blender. Some people were lax by meditating or or spoil. I blend and I'm like doc. You'll pastime is using a blender last. I just did you buy a bunch of like fruit and just blend but talk about Topa first world problems. I'm just GonNa House we can so grey are blended this movie and it was survey last weird. Maybe it is that some so product placement there might be maybe if I Jack Black blended in acts and he's like to come back and get my blend. It's just like it's blending that that's AAA and don't don't get me wrong but that's a damn good blender and there's something cool about locking in nine. Five seconds stops now liquid but I mean this debate a real. Oh acts of relaxation show that you need to be blending for a long time. which now what you're blending exploiting you judge how relaxing the blend is have we up vacant at that would fall to long but yeah? I've ever watched. She actually hoping but it's a classic film is definitely one of my favorite will Smith Ninety days and when we stopped during Sri pedantic fives that still fly whoa Smith Movie One night but offset is far more but dynamic things we have to go through first Friday as honorable mention again and have a detail sal was a man of steel John when you fight or foot films you watch what it's on exact Snyder's. I dip in the water for the D. C. e. a you'll ever. I call it. Every Ville Vincent man absolutely brilliant in that row the music in a film is Actually Beautiful John Highly recommend if you've just gone split finalists into the Matt Still School. It's is some of the best music that's been put to film in ten years my opinion but there's one little thing again. I think I think even Gillette like sponsored this side. There's a saying it's it's an origin story. If you've not seen about Superman and it's about him discovering his palace now becomes even a person he's meant to be all the decision over whether he stays in heightened and at one point he's on the line like he's he's out living literally on on the land and he goes feral. Oh he grows a massive bid and then he gets rid of his bid anything. If you say man how do you shave because you're indestructible and Gillette literally spend like millions on this advertising campaign sponsoring and promoting man of steel and a special man of Steel Risa net just like how does he sherry find out on Gillette DOT DOT COM. This is become like just cheesy advertising. It's not enough to get into my top five but I have spent altuve on thinking about how the superman and shove as even out tons of paces on ready Ivan well. He uses his laser vision to reflect off surfaces to cut it off soufflot. 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In Conversation with Robbie Downey: a Jockey fighting to prove his innocence

The Final Furlong Podcast

29:11 min | 7 months ago

In Conversation with Robbie Downey: a Jockey fighting to prove his innocence

"The Vet Exchange more wasted bet more ways to win proud sponsors of the final furlong. PODCAST the final furlong. PODCAST is proudly brought not by out the racist dot com the ultimate online resource for racing fans. Welcome to a special edition of the final podcast. I'm your host Emma's Kennedy. Thank you very much for joining joining us. Great to have your company in this edition of the show we are in conversation with jockey. Robbie Downey who has been through hell and back it over the last few months. Rob Joins US now. Robin thank you very much for giving his you time on the final for a podcast. Thank you it's been a pretty a hectic time and to catch everybody up on the nineteenth of June last year you went over to France for a right as they do in the UK and Orlands. There was a standard urine tests. You were one of the people. Selected willingly took part in that and five weeks later. Our fronts. Gallo informed you and I believe Eddie Lynam because you had started out being attached to Yards that you had tested positive for for cocaine metabolites the first question that I have to ask you. Have you ever taken cocaine. You know you know I've never taken cocaine and and never never says drug tests never taken cocaine and it's just a shocked when a when I got there can can I ask you then Robbie. Is it possible that you unknowingly consumed the drug. I spoke to a solicitor about this yesterday and bear in mind that the jurisdictions addictions are very very different in France and the UK and Arlington Interpretations can be different. And we'll get into that because I think that's all been very interesting but the no fault also our negligence defense wouldn't have given you a full reprieve but it might have reduced your band. So is it possible that you've socialized with if someone who in front of you did it but you took no partners. No No No I never. I don't know I would hang around anybody so Cocaine and Bono that's definitely But definitely a no and as for children environmental momentum contamination and you know to be. Ha has a trade show level of them. One hundred and fifty grams for one hundred milliliters of your and The hair tested strongly suggests that I wasn't over and friends don't operation operate any treasury bills so in other awards could be a microscopic lament and It could've entered your system one we would know about it to. You probably wouldn't have seen enter your system or or you wouldn't know no it'd be just environmental contamination. I'm Dan Because because friends is the only country and the only any country to operate without potentials. And you know it just it just a threshold in front so you can pay for an accident. Linski Lamont and it's my understanding that friends have given you the amount that you tested positive for it. They've not handed ended over the data us to how much was in your system and yet no that's true and when I When I in offense test I got a hair samples in England? They need rang pulse others. I told Paul on the Jockeying sociation but they haven't done the drugs they said go you've gotTa Harrisonville and you never know. Ha uses hair supplement to determine weather junkies had taken drugs enough and they use them onto talkies on. I gotTa Harrison for some in England negative of metabolites. And I'll be done in boy absolutely Fringe Junkie to go to France and to get something because the Front Scarlett warns going to support my English hair or something anyway so I went to Penn taper it myself. Gosh an alert hair samples on it was six months or six months worth of something I find it can be clear of cocaine metabolites and then obviously with the next an expert witness to prove because fronts John scallop McGuire and never gave me my never get the levers that was in my system and no expert witness codes Noah no expert witness could stand up and gave evidence. Hadn't taken the drug. So you know what I've been the levels that I asked for for France Gallup. I couldn't really. I couldn't no. I haven't taken any jobs because I couldn't get an expert witness armed and nobody who's willing to stand up and say yeah. Well you know everyone. We contacted they all said the same thing. And what is the expert witness on whatever from celebrating levels. There's nothing you can do. We know that Rob Hudson had a similar incident Ronin with the French authorities and that costs them. A great amount in legal expenses says and it didn't go his way. Was that influential in your decision. Making to notch. Bring a legal representative with you to France and in hindsight do you regret not bringing a legal representative with you and well in rough husband's case. He he spent a lot of money. He actually. She'd gotten expert witnesses well on the same thing front style of digging level. The expert witness on sneak couldn't couldn't have say so whatever it was never denied the like no. You know what we're what we're going to get. Some are even tonight's we you know via the night to be able to prove that he didn't take any drugs and and I I know I know from Rhode Island's case you know he's spending money and you know they they just didn't take anything into consideration over over there so I'm sure that might have been the same with me in hindsight yes. I probably would have if I could've went to fronts again for the theft illegal and legal legal representative with me because You know only went over with her in the guy who's brilliant not the French Jockey's agent Bush and just uneager side. I definitely and again legally yes so Hervey Nagar. It has acted as interpreter in this matter as you say as you stated while he has a degree from the business school he doesn't have a legal background. All of this can being in hindsight because in the back of your mind and in the back of the PG as mind to fall back on did the professional jockeys association nation ever reach out to Front Gallo and say we do things a little bit differently in the interest of fairness can you give us the amounts that Robbie has assumingly tested positive for and the Professional Jockeys Association Awesome Awesome. I'm Jay then some and they said had we need the levels unique determine what was in Ravi system under the English threshold or or how much. I'm whatever levels I I I couldn't prove my innocence would levels code improve on anything on what I was told in France before went to other sold the best chance we have of women. This case is when the case is brought back to England England we're going to give me a first show to be. Ha They knew. We're going to play Fernando secretion before before actually the Before we appear to place because we knew we knew you. You know French got to listen to a lot of and and you know before the appeal we all we already We already made it aware to be. Ha if does does he go up you do a you know we're gonNA play under supervision and the AJ's response was they. Were GonNA take either a new dream. Stuns are there. We're going to anyway. They were going to support my application for non reciprocation. In other words. They were going to sit in the fence or their own. You know reading supporters and so let me of the that'll change the afternoon before the here and from saying that they were going to take a neutral stanford support. They actually went against it this the day before the here in the J. J. and then went against my My application and just to confirm for because the final fallen puck thankfully is listened to by large amounts horse racing fans I myself. Don't come from a racing background. Tony Keenan Roy is is the same but there are a lot of if you fellow waiting room. Colleagues trainer's assistant trainers stable staff people who work in the industry people that work in the media who listen to this show. A lot of people will be very very familiar with this case and some not so much. They'll have an vague idea of it but they won't know the full details so to just completely car fight. Hi this the Ph a told you and the professional jockeys association that at the very worst they would remain neutral that was their stance on this. They were at the very very worst. They would be neutral probably going to support. You was it the week before they sought legal counsel yet. You weren't informed until the day before the British appeal. Yes yes exactly. That's exactly it and I was told I actually went. You know leading the player week to here in I was a you know we had an evidence. We had a statement from The Hague on lab and statement. Says this is the behavior in age own own urine and said Would would open levels. And you know the heritage strongly strongly You know they strongly suggest and I love well under the Being trolled without the levels again obviously because it had enough chance to yet. Vha where they were at worst they were going to be neutral. I'm holding until the day before actually notified today before the here but they sought the legal counsel the week before so presumably a and B. H. A. R.. Not Speak for themselves presumably. They change their minds the week before. Yet you weren't informed until three PM today before the hearing when you were given that news having been previously told by the Professional Jockeys Association and yourself to be. Ha telling you their stunts and then dramatically changing it. What was your reaction and I couldn't I couldn't believe the changing lanes I didn't and get white? They changed their mind. And you know as I say I couldn't do anymore I get every pets could prove my innocence. I'm good at levels. I just I just couldn't get over the line with as a level that was on France. Never giving me the level and as far as as far as I knew a J. A.. Yet they're going to be your best chance to win on August leave from them. Not Supporting you know that was done. Basically Paul struthers has been a great ally of yours and he is the chief executive -secutive of the professional jockeys association publicly. He is Komo and condemned this entire thing. Because you've maintained your innocence. Since all the way through. He describes it as a really really dark day for the regulator and that he could not recall a similar miller scenario in his eighteen years of experience working for the J. or for that matter in his present role. Yeah and all all of our very good and amongst the Paul Harvey Nagar Their Ability Obviously when run one to be against me on one this all after the here Paul was. I couldn't believe it. She couldn't be less the case. And you know he's very disappointing. Jay and all the creature had their chance to buy me You know from even from the heritage you know from from from them taking hair tests off jockeys foods there since you in you know I had two countries and it just didn't count you know so you no longer yet reached out not you in any way and no no I got anymore is funding off to nick. Ross reject you know the response to be on the show and a lot of uh a lot of social media on twitter and or no nobody You know nobody. Nobody says anything. Strange Board to be. Ha offense fellow fat. No nobody's come I. I haven't been interpreted on. You were supported by Irish trainer. Eddie lynam being one of them who you started your career with and you got to write in Dundalk folks recently enough one of the. HRIS said to you. Are you saying that they haven't reached out to you either and that takes like hr the thing. Ah I haven't heard anything so I am stars. I know posters is going to apply for You know we're going to play to try and get a license in Ireland and hopefully they will take We'll take everything into consideration hopefully as my license. But I don't know what they're what they're update is on the but everything to incriminating. There's nothing more accounting to virtualization board. Were still in the process of applying for a license with them and as far as h as concerned and and just on the six months on getting new takes on for a minute. You've taken every step to clear your name. You have gone public look. I know that you have assistance from the Professional Jockeys Association. They've helped out. But this has been great personal cost to you. I don't don't understand. Why if you were guilty that you would go to such an effort and to such a personal cost financially? And I'm sure emotionally to prove your innocence. Having undergone everything having taken every single process that you can having been advised by pulse others and by the PGA. And I'm sure advice from legal counsel in in the UK and from from weighing-room colleagues and from trainers to have the governing body. Turn on you and to not have the reach out to you. Must be be incredibly deflating. Definitely Obviously went to France unfold. My best chances in the be the factor in the thing to be very sorry. VHA somewhere on the basis. I my hair tests come back negative on. Yeah just like they just turned on me Obviously look everything there. Everything's in black and white. It's always saw. I haven't taken any drugs and then you know clear that they should smoke found for something I haven't done other say look threatening England for for most of my career and you know hopefully there's something that the HR okay can do. That's that's pretty much the only option and was not. It's you know it's it's six months of unemployment personally. I haven't is on and tell me about the doctor Jerry Hill because he has back to you. Jerry Hill was completed on. I say you know He. He was Yeah he he wasn't a here in England and in England for them. No Doctor Jerry Hill. Majoring McGoldrick you know they they. We'll go completely on Wednesday and they go to greet from the hair tests. Couldn't take the job and you know they said that communicable say look from the basic your heritage knows Nelson. Thank you talked about working in Ireland. You made the decision to make the move to the UK in your career. Today you've won in prize money. Six hundred fifty three thousand three hundred fifty three zero in Ireland one hundred and twenty thousand six hundred seventy pounds in the UK. You also had a contract act in India. I presume that a contract means that you're guessing steady pay dot contracts hats and then voided when this ban was brought into force. You're twenty three years of age and a lot of people listening to the final Furlan. PODCAST are freelance workers and a lot of people in media are freelance as well. You essentially. They'll have no income for the next six months. Yeah that's it When I actually have to come back from India how to contrast in India and I only you did a month of us and Indian and thirty said go back clear your name then please come back and you know we we can start where you left off and Noah stopped in writing on November. The twenty second in India that was when my contract My contract ended and I've had a couple of religion dog for For my boss at nine on McConnell since crash Bush and you know we we actually played aged for J. backdate the bond and from when I was in India. Obviously I don't know what the situation last I haven't got an update. Go Yeah of criminal show to walk no for six months. It's just very very shocking. And you know I'm I'm after getting on fire or something that is clearly haven't done proven that happens John. I'm getting the sheiks done. And you know much up no has spoken to you and has vigorously defended you. You were on our friend. Nick looks show on Sunday and you came across very well there. Nick pleaded for commonsense at the end of that interview as well. A A lot of people are writing about this deal that most of the media are talking about you but there aren't a huge amount talking to you and that's made like look on the more social media you know it's not GonNa Change anything and it's not GonNa Change anything no and bull you know because obviously we just. I just wanted to clear my name really lousy lousy. I wanted to write first of all the second part of his career in my name. You know Not The last thing I need you know we only donkey trying to make a career career for himself because then you know a label of contributor over your name so Now it's very important to me that I did get my name there and then I think I've got the message costs. No one I think. People a lot of people know how how how always mistreated by the behavior in Frisco. I I think people are you know are aware of learn just it. Is You talked about the reaction from people who watch look on Sunday and I'm sure that there was a good reaction to people who'd read the piece with my Chapman as well. I hope that you get a good reaction to this interview view to Robbie and I genuinely mean Brian Cooper has joined us on the podcast on numerous occasions. And he's talked about that the the abuse that AH jockey can get for I perceived bad ride when an actual fact. That's not the case at all. We had a high profile case last year of of a young man whose whose girlfriend had to take to twitter in defensive because of the amount of abuse he was getting for a simple mistake in a race right and people not taking into account the effect that that can have on. Someone's well-being has been kind to you or has it been somewhat cruel rule and from the response I've seen it's It's all been gorgeous Obviously get get a you know you can get a couple of loud responsive but to be honest. That doesn't bother me at all and you know I. I think I think most people aren't there. No you know what I mean. It was in black and white radio. You have to do with the evidence and and you know as far as as far as twitter and twitter artichokes in Asia and a lot of people embarrassed Paul. Excellent that's good to hear. You have the right attitude as well by the way because Declan Rick set at best. I think haters going to hate block. Lockout the haters and you can you can move on in terms of support from the industry. Have you had trainers because you've been based in in the UK. Have you had pretty these trainers reach out to you and offer you help restrictors eighty Lynam obviously gave you some rides at Dundalk. Have you had support from trainers and owners who say it's we will we'll back you. Yes and I thought I thought a known support for like obviously June earned you know ridden winners for a AH in England of this year and even with the news coming over you know straight up to the trainers. I told them this going on. You know You know the day we're we're always they're always very supportive. Dave Amara David Baron and on cool move those poor obviously she then when I went to India and he's flying it there and when I come back to our and John McCain and you know they've all been very simple and their people have high integrity particularly clearly fast steady. Eddie Lineman David Omar Junkin. They're not going to reach out and support you. If they had any semblance of doubt that you were guilty the fact that they are supporting you is great to hear for one thing but it must also then add to the frustration. That France fronts. Gallo have their rules and they've run with it but that the Ha just throw you under the bus at the very last second. My next question then is about. Oh you and how you are because watching you on on look on Sunday I was a bit concerned about you. To be honest. You look shook. Has this taken. It's toll hold on you know. No I don't think so no look it's been disappointing as you can imagine. It's very disappointing. And I'm still in shock. You know look people have come back from buying gear enough at the end today. Going to be coming back anyway and then you know so. We'll just keep on keep ahead keep ahead Joan then at the end of the line is there are no further process unless the IHOP step in. And it gives you a lifeline is is this the end of the line. Are you know having to wait until July. Yeah well Since could take him to you. Know there is the option of taking them because because the courts don't and you know a lot of cards. Don't fight sporting leading so It can be very difficult in that sense but yet that you know I'm best. Chance is if the charts reaching bars. Don't reciprocate the English and French van. That's that's our best best. Would you be comfortable ever writing in front again. And obviously Of Sadness in France again and Bush as far as aspire as As far as being comfortable and no because I know having taken anything any drugs last time I've gotten you know somehow there was something in my system so and obviously I know what haven't taken anything but I. I just very very shocked that there was something my system so I'd always have that in the back of yeah. Are you a prohibitive continuing your career fulltime in the UK given the fact that the B. H. A.. told you that they were going to at the very least be on the sidelines but would probably back you only to then turn their back. Knock on you. Would you be apprehensive continuing your career there. Yeah look I I don't know what. Let him go to do. As far as as far as as far as when I when I honestly hopefully there'd be a j are rushing. Supports me as far as where I'm going to be based on another one hundred percent. Sure what's your current plan as part of this done. Are you to stay away from racing or can you be engaged in work writing on a daily basis. I'm not sure what the plan is to be honest and obviously I was very shocked when I did get the van and again that was going to happen. And so everything you still up in the air at the ministry weather to go abroad for a couple of months or whether to just get to work leading job in Ireland another hundred for censure almost going to happen and I have few options so and so I just have to. You just have to see what what do you feel that. The B. H. A. have taken a political stance here that they've backed fronts Gallo because because they are the biggest ally France would be their second biggest ally and you have become a victim of that and I would agree with that and I think that could have supported me and they could. They could have supported me if they wanted to. I just think that they've they've children to get back friends which just you know? It's not like budget still can't get over. orw Does the background but they did and so. Yeah I got one twenty three. You're young man and you've lost a love life left in you and you've got a lot of your career left's to give as well and I know that this is an incredibly frustrating and disappointing the pointing and probably depressing time. Boss keep the head up know that there are those who plenty who support you. This ban is a great professional and personal costumes. Well I hope that you come out of this on the right side and whatever it is you choose to do whether you choose to the base yourself in Ireland and maybe the Hov will extend an olive branch. Maybe they will be the ones who decide not to reciprocate zipper case and that you'll be okay but even if you have to serve the full term of your band very much hope that you're able to resume your career and continued the success that you've been having you seem to have a very very strong mind and I have great admiration for this huge admiration for that and that can only help you going forward boss. Hopefully you get the support and help that you need and you are back writing as soon as possible. Thank you very much I appreciate. aww thanks very much for joining on the final podcast and telling your story robby do hope that common sense prevails and the justices done for Jackie. Robert Downey our latest income sation on the final furlong. PODCAST back on Thursday. When Roy and Vanessa will be here trying to unearth loads of winners for the weekend? And hopefully we'll find you plenty. Thank you very much for listening to the show. 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Wednesday, July 29, 2020

Westwood One Daily News Flash Briefing

08:57 min | Last week

Wednesday, July 29, 2020

"From Washington D. C.. This is Westwood One Daily News for Wednesday July Twenty, nine, th twenty, twenty, I'm John Trout. Nearing one hundred, fifty, thousand years, deaths from covid nineteen president trump continues to tout a drug that the FDA says may do more harm than good for coronavirus patients. Bob Costantini has our top story. The president was asked why he tweeted a video of a few doctors outside the supreme. Court. For whatever reason, extolling the value of hydroxy win treatment that led to a question about his occasional disparagement of Dr. Anthony. Who is a government employee but has doubts about the drug's effectiveness? We could have gotten somebody else didn't have to be fasching. He's working with our administration, and for the most part we've done pretty much what he and others. Dr burks and others who are terrific recommended and he's got this high approval rating. So why don't I have a high approval rating and the administration with respect to the virus Mr Trump concluded, it must be his personality in Delaware presumptive, democratic, nominee and. And former vice. President Joe Biden. Taking questions from reporters after delivering a statement, he accuses the president of worrying too much about economic activity is the virus got out of control in the United. States a couple of months ago and believes Mr Trump is about to repeat that process after a week ago. McDonalds things will get worse before they get better. You can't get this country going again unless you get covered under control, and so he has been really late in the game. To get it around himself wearing a mask, for example, he will have no particular impact on Corona virus treatment or efforts to find a vaccine that president trump let off his media session by announcing seven, hundred, sixty, five, million, dollar, government loan will turn. Kodak. From my camera and film making company into a Kodak. Pharmaceuticals. It's part of an effort to bring some generic prescription drug. Drug. Manufacturing. To the United States less than ten percent of the active pharmaceutical ingredients needed to make these drugs currently manufactured in America more than fifty percent however are made in India and China. It's good news for Rochester New York where Kodak is headquartered. The company found for bankruptcy in two thousand twelve because even though it created the digital camera, it stuck with its core film. Film Business. Bob Costantini Washington and oversight hearing of the Justice. Department turns testy at times. Says the attorney general faces sustained criticism on. Capitol. Hill correspondent Linda Kenyon following the story in your time department, you have aided and abetted the worst failings of the president. Strong words from House Judiciary, committee chairman Jerry Nadler for Attorney General. William Bar again, and again, you personally have interfered with. With ongoing criminal investigations to protect the president and his allies from the consequences of their actions, and he didn't stop there these actions. Comment price real damage to our democratic norms, the erosion of the separation of powers and a loss of faith in the equal administration of Justice, and that was just during the opening statements where the ranking Republican on the Committee Representative Jim Jordan to. You guys attacking every day every week, and now you filed articles of impeachment against him. It's ridiculous and Jordan shifted gears I want to thank you for defending law enforcement law enforcement was one of the central issues during the hearing where the attorney general defended the use of federal troops move in on demonstrations against racial injustice. Those demonstrations were going on in cities including, Washington, DC Chicago and Portland Oregon, we're on the defense. It's not out looking for trouble the attorney, General. General referring to the actions of federal officers to defend a courthouse in Portland is someone went down the street to the court here that beautiful courthouse. We have right at the bottom of the hill and started breaking windows and firing industrial grade fireworks into start a fire throw kerosene balloons in and start fires in the court. Is that okay? Is that okay. Now, what about in Lafayette Square in Washington DC moving h street is st as the perimeter was a decision made. The day before it was justified by extreme rioting that was going on around the White House. Movement say Democrats was curiously time to clear the way for president trump's photo op across the street from the White House, and while witnesses say the protests at the time were peaceful chairman. Nadler accused bar of doing the president's bidding. The president wants footage his campaign is and you appear to be serving it up to him as ordered. Especially, he says when it comes to A. A show of force used pepper, spray and truncheons, un-american citizens. You did it here in Washington. You did it Lafayette Square expanded to Portland, and now you're projecting fear and violence nationwide in pursuit of obvious political objectives. Shame. On you. MR, Bar bar refuted all claims that he has unduly influenced by the president that his actions have ignited rather than quelled once or that he. He Doles out special treatment for trump friends and associates. Linda Kenyon Washington. A debate is brewing in Texas, between state leaders and local health departments over the start of the school season correspondent. Clayton Neville is following the story the Attorney General, Advising County health departments that they can't legally issue blanket orders closing all schools on a purely preventive basis. Now, if they see that there's an An issue that can shut it down for a period of time to clean. It kept a reopen it. It's up to the local school board to decide if they're going to open when they're gonNA open some of the state's biggest counties like Dallas and tarrant where covid nineteen was most rampant borrowed in person learning into September. That's why we put it out there to clarify. Counties like Dallas and tarrant and others. All of the state would know what the law was and how they could how how they could operate. Paxton says, health authorities can give recommendations, but that anything more could be met with a lawsuit would likely be a very successful lawsuit if some help and try to shut down a school Dallas ISD. Superintendent. Michelina, Hosa says. Says the opinion won't impact his district's opening date because we'd already punted until September, the eighth and regardless of what the county decided we were. GonNa. Make that decision anyway. So it really doesn't affect US either way he says guidance from the county is welcome, but he agrees ultimate decisions should be made by the district. We always depend on the county guidance in. And, we will listen to what they tell us. But we do like having control of our own destiny following the opinion, the Texas education, agency said, it won't fund school districts that keep classrooms closed because of local health mandate, several Texas counties. Now, conferring with their attorneys on how to move forward. I'm Clayton Neville Jim Roope reports. California lawmakers will be considering a bill that seeks to make contracting Cova Nineteen. Compensation Injury. The controversial bill follows a controversial executive order governor Gavin. newsom signed as the state rolled into face to reopening at his aimed at protecting workers who are on the front lines from police medical workers to grocery workers who may contract the virus. This bill says its author Democrat Senator Jerry Hill Codifies. The governor's order is we are all painfully aware Cova nineteen has ravaged our state while much media attention has been on the economic challenges of this pandemic scale of human suffering. It's unprecedented and difficult to overstate the bill is largely backed by Democrats among the Republicans opposed is Senator Bryan Dali. WHO Says California. California employers already pay some of the highest worker's comp insurance premiums in the nation, there has to be proof of where the risk is. Where's the risk? The risk? Is it my job or is it a employee contacts cove it Republican Senator John Morlock. Sites. The same issue employers cannot be and should not be held liable for what their employees maybe doing outside of the job that may have actually contributed to testing positive for the coronavirus. Recent example is Lou Williams Point Guard. For the Los, Angeles Clippers he was excused from the teams bubble at the NBA Quarantine Facility in Orlando Florida to attend a funeral. And he also wound up at a strip club in Atlanta. He since tested positive. If an essential worker then goes out and gathers with friends or family away from work and contracts, the virus, this bill says, Dolly presumes the infection came from the workplace. No matter where you contacted or you get sick, you're GONNA put it off on the employer supporters say essential workers put themselves at risk and must be protected and a short of medical care if they can track the virus because it would not be able to be definitively determined exactly where the infection occurred. Jim Roope Los Angeles. Westwood One Daily News for Wednesday July. Twenty Ninth Twenty Twenty I'm John, trout.

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Podcast: What Does Responsible Tourism Look Like? 2019-07-02

The Takeaway

28:53 min | 1 year ago

Podcast: What Does Responsible Tourism Look Like? 2019-07-02

"The take away is supported by net suite by oracle the business management software and the world's number one cloud business system right now net suite is offering you valuable insights with a free guide seventy strategies to grow your profits at net sweet dot com slash take away hey that's net sweet dot com slash take away hey y'all it's the take away from july second time around vinegar paul in pretend vena tourism is taking an environmental told in some travelers alerts are trying to vacation responsibly i traveled extensively and so i am very concerned about these footprint i have purchased carbon off when i have traveled in europe and australia when we travel broadly always choose the resort eco friendly plus were taking your calls on the best summer songs at eight seven seven eight my take a great summer song has to be something the sounds amazing while you're driving preferably driving the pool or the beach andy grub hub is buying up thousands of web addresses for local restaurant making it harder for them to grow online all right time to begin let's go win a trip americans are going somewhere this week you are obviously not alone across the globe tourism is on the rise bombay durable goods according to the world tourism organization twenty eighteen saw a record one point four billion international tourists arrival and are planet is feeling it by some estimates global tourism accounts were nearly ten percent of the world's carbon emissions end with more travelers continued to hit this guy's tourism is gonna be a piece of the climate change puzzle for years to come some of you told us you're thinking about climate change as you make your travel plans this this luanda ruben in boulder colorado i traveled extensively and so i am very concerned about be footprint that my travel could leave on the planet so i try to sign up for trips and tours and make a point of having a small footprint and that is sustainable hi this is amy from traverse city and he just took a trip to ellie area and they carried coffee mug in a water bottle and none of us use cops on the plane we used the metro scooters and bicycles which was awesome around town so so i rent a car sacha three days untouched by my name is william i'm calling from los angeles and i have purchased a carbon offset when i traveled in europe and australia that anywhere between three and ten dollars per leg of my flight and look for my newest flights on option i would definitely buy them if they were available hey this is eric calling from lansing michigan we always tell our kids we don't ever take a vacation from recycling going someplace remote we plan to bring all by recycling back with us then we travel gladly always choose the resort that eco friendly it's very important to us what is responsible tourism actually look like at this moment of climate change urgency i'm a ruined vinegar paul in for tenzin vega end we're gonna talked about it on the take away i have two people with me talk through this martha honey is cofounder an executive director of the center for responsible travel and she's also the editor of a book called crews tourism in the caribbean and jeremy smith is a writer in tourism consultant and author of the book transforming travel welcome to you both room martha let's start with the numbers here exactly how big is the tourism industry today there's at one point four billion people traveling internationally this year it's expected to reach two billion by two thousand thirty or before an it is one of the few industries is continued to grow year after year despite economic downturns okay we've been seeing this term common parlance over tourism heavy industry industry grown to rapidly i think so what we've seen is the convergence of a number of different trends within the industry ranging from the growth of cruise tourism an air being bees to cheaper air flights the growth of the middle class of entry in big numbers of countries like china in india and international travel market social media these sort of selfie culture and bucket lists culture all of these are contributing to people going to specific civic places and causing what is known as over tourism and also the lack of management by governments that's a very important piece of it so how much do we know about the impact of all just travel on the climate well we know quite a bit these exact figures of c o two two or a greenhouse gas emissions are somewhat unclear for the tourism industry somewhere up around ten percent with air travel contributing substantially in crews tourism also contributing substantially and we've also seen the tourism industry is extremely vulnerable to climate change as most popular type of vacation is is along the coast on beaches and so this is the most built up a sector of the tourism industry end also is extremely vulnerable to climate change jeremy i'd be individual level all tell us more about the biggest drivers of climate change in terms of cars in retirement air travel what else well let me nothing we can't go onto the house without making it very clear that it is primarily at travel and i said i mean it it it varies depending on how far you fly but it's somewhere between fifty seventy eighty percent of a of an individual trip and so once we moved beyond the flights then there is a combination the food one buys the white one gets around the bay up a small piece of the pie compared to the transport it gets back to tell us a little more about how much carbon an average international fit in nets in what it takes to offset that okay well i'm sitting here in london a flight overtime flights between london and new york in economy class it's gonna depend upon how you plan is body looking at one point five one point six one point seven tons of carbon dioxide per person which is still hard to visualize but they were pulled from nature climate change last year that said that's each person on the return trip london new york accounts for thirty two square feet of melting arctic sea ice wow now a lot of environmental activists have expressed skepticism about carbon offsets what is your take on them should individuals take on the responsibility here in are they affective be i did the by paying paying for an offset somehow my flights impact upon the environment is removed is wrong and that is the prime reason the people resistant to the idea of carbon offsets offset neutralize flights never multiple reasons for that to do with whether you're planting trees that are gonna take decades to grotto and absorb carbon whether you could actually insured at the project what's gonna happen regardless and various other things to do with how whether you don't show the project will be maintained and will continue to deliver what it's doing matt said do i believe someone who is closing pollution today i'm gonna say shouldn't do some pullman breed you'll look to do it yes i do but he said i mean personally i offset the flights the trip so i take and whatever else i consider my life has a significant carbon impact but i don't consider the best the final thing i do i do everything i can to minimize and when i left going you know what that's what left then i also martha what efforts are we seeing we'd indie industry the tourism industry in namely with major companies were they doing the tackled the reality of climate change if anything i mean all companies working on reducing their fuel costs it's the largest costa they have in airplanes planes and they're trying to make more fuelefficient airplanes there are a number of experimentation with also trying to develop non fossil fuel consuming planes and there was actually in two thousand sixteen i believe the first around the world flight by a solar powered plane i mean very very small one person you lane but still it made it around the world so there are there are efforts underway i think the industry could do much more i think governments need to be pushing the industry's do much more in consumers need to be an i i totally agree with jeremy that carbon offset is is not going to solve the problem of pollution by planes because what you're doing is you're paying another company basically or another organization to do something green behalf of the airline industry we have to keep the pressure on the airline industry but i also think that it's very important to remember that we should not completely stopped flying because tourism is the most important foreign exchange earner for developing countries around the world along with oil and we know that oil is not a good alternative at least tourism done well done responsibly has the capacity to do some good in countries so i think we have to continue to fly but we have to figure out ways do it in smarter ways take longer haul trips of and stay longer in those in those destinations rather than a whole series of long haul trips using alternative transport as as jeremy mentioned when whenever possible and so on but we need to keep seeing the world both because it's important to developing countries and it's important to are are education so you think that there is a case to be made for improving the quality in terms of these sustainability of the tourism do you think that is inevitably it'd be more expensive for the individual tourist well i think that remains to be seen i mean certainly the b m research and development of green planes is expensive perhaps at the end of the day they'll they'll end up being cheaper then fossil fuel planes we i don't think we know know that yet and certainly as they come online and we get more and more of them then the price will inevitably go down as we always see i think we simply need to keep the pressure on the industry we've seen for instance in within tourism over the last twenty twenty five years of growth both of a whole variety of ego certification programs but most of them before accommodation not for transport and so we need to be trying to develop standards green standards for transport is well jeremy given what you've told us about carbon emissions flights could campaigns to keep people from traveling altogether be part of the solution they're all these campaigns this sort of fletcher income pines and flight free twenty twenty in uk and europe happening i think they are parts of v solution but i think we have the right as you said in your question you said you shifted from saying like troppled i don't think we should be stopping people from travel i think travel is incredibly important part of who we are humans but we don't necessarily need to be doing dining a lot which involves a quick we can slide having that back and forth to europe just to another city to go shopping and a lot of the focus backing up author was just saying own looking at how we might price is a fairly is just say we can't price you'll sheena cheaper holiday out of the reach of those everyone except the very wealthy but some form of fat taxation they're talking about the way the the first flight has tax the second time the tax increases the flights of yet the tax increases even more so more people who frequently fly are being made to pay the movies but those who get one sean our dream holiday as she potentially make it more available to the market you've argued that people who travel do actually care more about climate change tell us more about that how does it work well i think we're seeing you know it's taken time but there's been now a couple of generations where where the terms like ecotourism unsustainable tourism responsible travel have been part of are lexicon an we've had standards being developed through certification program so it is you know filtering down to the traveling public and i think also were seeing particularly with millennials there's a a real interest in environmental protection in real cernan urgency of course is being driven by by climate change in in also by over tourism i do think that you you put your finger on one of the real dilemma which is how at a time when we definitely are going to have to have some limitations on travel particularly the certain places destinations in areas how do we keep travel democratic and i think in addition to with jeremy said about people who travel more by playing paying more in taxes their other techniques sort of being talked about reservation systems for key museums key national parks and and other attractions around the world where people have to sign up before had the good thing about this is that when they get there it will not be overcrowded because the numbers will be controlled by limited number of tickets but it will be a first come first serve basis so that it could be open to people of of a range of different economic capacities past cities so i think we have to think creatively about how we we keep as we have to constrain the number of tourists go into specific areas how we also keep the process is we put in place democratic and we don't simply do it by raising the price germany smith smith is a writer in tourism consultant and author of the book transforming travel in martha honey is co founder and executive director of the center for responsible travel thank you both thank you and a dream knees in some way hey folks around van gogh paul in for tens of this week on the take away there's been a lot of really difficult muesli but the calendar officially says july summer's in full swing so let's take a second to relax and that means music that we should tell us about you're anthem of this summer so far music that's making you feel good and just what makes it so great a great summer song has to be something the sounds amazing while you're driving an amazing summer song is something you envision you and you're whole crew like starring in the music video not being in the video but starring in the video and i'm not sure if a summer song as emerged this summer but i must in the ocean drive away in a plane ride a blue wave a we had a sex on my boxes it's fun it reminds me of miami with my friends and it's very tangible just few minutes i got on heavy loop this is jay calling from jerry hill my favorite summer song i just heard it and it's everybody wants to the world you i just love that song every time i hear i think of summer because of the guitar playing in a lake erie way the music slows it is a wonderful song my name is jennifer and i'm from allentown pennsylvania hello my name is david from la opera i remember summertime time by saying the adjustable base and let the mom my mom put your own delay back that year when it came out and my grandfather took me and my two other cousins on a two week a road trip one of my cousins had the single an played it many times we loved it loved as young kids introduce me opportunity to speak in a will smith shut up you this is carl in bend oregon we always hit tom petty per lots of great road and into the great wide open is absolutely are favorite to lunch hour trip this god dammit we start playing that in all yell laptop at the same time in a lot of time on a my name is lee and i'm calling from north bergen new jersey i say the best summer anthem is a modern day whenever you hear this song and transported to an ethics cinematic rooftop party round allowed the opening scene in the ground level let me let me let me check my favorite summer jam is back nineteen ninety nine by charlie x traits of on it mentions jamming up three beers in the year there my sister orange yellow eighty i'm yet turner and i'm in denver colorado i remember back then still so young scientists dolphin my pick well that would be fun in the summertime time by flying the same don't bring a far as i'm concerned there is no better example of a song that hits it just how beautiful and leading summers are how quickly they come and go i've always thought that about this song it's always been really poignant to me but especially so this year because my kid she just turned eighteen over before you know it tell us you're summer anthem tweeted that the take away or call us at eight seven seven eight my take and we will have a pointless for you at the take away dot org of all the songs you told us are making you happy this summer it's the take away i'm amy walter you might be familiar with my work at the cook political report or as a contributor to the pbs news hour but you're hearing me now because i'm host of politics with amy walter from the take away every week we get behind the chaotic headlines from washington and tell you how policies in this country are actually changing and how it could affect you join me each week on politics with amy walter from the take away this is the take away from w n y c n p r i public radio international in collaboration with w g b h radio in boston if you like many of us order takeout from time to time there's a good chance you use a delivery app grub hub door dash caviar more and more apt seem to be appearing every other week and while these these apps may be convenient for customers they've also been raising the fees they charge restaurant over the years making it harder for stablishment to stay in business and turn a profit now a recent investigation shows another way the company influences sales independent restaurants claire brown a staff writer at the new food economy reports that grub hub has taught thousands of web addresses for small local restaurants often without the consent of those businesses claire is on the line now hi thanks for joining us hi thanks so much for having me so how did you first discovered the grub hub who's buying up all these you are ells well there was a hearing at new york city council in in city hall in a bunch of restaurant tours showed up to talk to council members about some of their grievances with seamlessly grub hub end this didn't actually come up in the public forum while i was there but i got to talking to some restaurant tours andy one of them was saying that she had tried to walk up her own website end found that grub hub already owned her domain and that was very striking to me so i decided to take a little bit further into it now in your article it's new food economy you have gone into the the problems of a particular restaurant you're a woman named shivani you don't give her last name because apparently she has risen to sort of stay i guess a little under the radar tell us about shivani though the kind of restaurant she runs in this burden she's now facing that has to do with grub hub shivani runs to restaurants both in the city they're kind of american style lunch bots burgers egg sandwich is end she decided did recently that she wanted to get off of grub hub and she did that because she joined grub hub several years ago at end nothing else has changed about her business she's has more customers smarter than ever before everything else is the same but she realized that she was falling behind on bills and so she did a deep dive into her financing's to try and figure out where the money was going right she went into her grub hub statement and then she realized that she had just been slowly paying more and more to the platform over time so she decided she wanted to see if she could kind of strike out on her own you know she had all of this business many many loyal customer she figured if she just launched her own website and ordering system there should be no problem then she went to buy her domain name which is the first step in setting up you're on website and she realized that grab already owned it so just to put into perspective amount of money issues pain to grub hub you report that she paid in a given month seven thousand dollars which equals pretty much her rent so this is an extraordinary amount of money that's going to grow up as you said thirty percent of every of every receipt yeah and and you know that statement i reviewed with actually eight thousand dollars this year it actually underestimated at just a little bit which just goes to show you it's a huge proportion of their income and there were a lot of charges that weren't aren't necessarily fair so corrupt has a practice of charging restaurants for calls that come in through the app the problem is not every single one of those called actually leads to in order and this came up a lot in the hearings things people felt like it was unfair that they were being charged basically for any phone call longer than forty five seconds and the grub of executives were claiming that it's the responsibility of the rest are known to go back in and listen to those calls strike off the ones that didn't need to in order getting back to her story was shivani she she decides she wants to sort of strike out on her own incense go online to beef up her web presence but she can't do this because grub hub owns your offer for her arrest ron name correct correct and so now what what could she do grabble told me in a statement that it is their practice to immediately transfer a web domain over to anyone who asks so she you may be able to pursue that option 'em otherwise she looking at purchasing you are l that doesn't match her restaurant as closely as she would like in you know she's still feeling like it's an uphill battle once you build your own website you have to beat grub hub and seamless in all of the google search rankings and that is no easy task it turns out it's actually very very difficult to have your own business show up on the internet sometimes now when they say those transfer upon request to the person who owns the business is clear whether there is some sort of financial payment that's required to obtain it you know they issued that statement after we published and so i haven't been able to ask shivani about this i have had restaurants on twitter reach out to me and say you know i've been trying to get my your offer eight months and they're pretending they don't know what's going on in so we'll see how that practice compares with the reality as the story continues to unfold what is grub hub say they're doing this wouldn't be get out of his they position did to me as a marketing service they said adding additional web presence creates more value for the restaurant which in turn creates more orders which in turn is better for everyone and so they angled it as a marketing opportunity that they do on behalf of their restaurant customers that said no one that i spoke to for this story new that that's what's happening all right so the grub hub told the take away in a statement that they've gotten quote explicit permission from the businesses to register these domain names but it sounds like you're reportings not bear that out everyone i've talked to for instance and the story was taken by surprise let's step back for a second just how important are delivery obsta small independent restaurants like shivani is do they need to use delivery obsta stay afloat in today's economy shivani feel like she does dt is delivery apps and i will give you an example most of us remember a time before delivery apps where we would pick up the phone and call the restaurant shivani make more than a thousand bucks in sales just on those phone calls every month now she says these apps have become the default for people who wanna order so they've really trained customers think i want take out i gotta grab a seamless and shivani feels like by accepting that system she doesn't really know what will happen and restaurants operate at such in profit margin they don't really have much room to play around into experiment it's a lot of the times just trying to stay afloat and the bills from month to month so let's say i google a local restaurant clear and i stumbled on a website that looks like the restaurants but it's actually a grub hub own site what happens so this was another interesting thing we found in investigation grub hub actually creates they call them nanto sites they're basically little tiny web sites that you stock photography an grub hub templates and they look like a real restaurant website so what happens when you click on those is that grub hub does get that commission that it's charging restaurants because the order is technically coming through grub hub they only problem is the customer often doesn't know that they're making grubb hub order especially if they pick up the phone and call because that phone number will then forward to the restaurants real phone number and grab i will record the call and take the commission claire brown is a staff writer for the new food economy thanks so much claire thank you for having me you could reached for comment that grub upsets the take away about the story online at the take away dot org an for the restaurant owners in our audience we would love to hear from you do use delivery apps as part of their business does this sound familiar to you all give us a call at eight seven seven eight

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CIPYD 243: Squishfaced Friends and Moving with a Dog

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CIPYD 243: Squishfaced Friends and Moving with a Dog

"Is there a dull anna car out of bar on? The street. Yay Dog that we really want to me. Hey Can I. You're your. With Rene and. Welcome to Canape your dog. I'm renee culvert a fluffy pit bull owner I'm Alexis. Preston eight small poodle owner, and this is the podcast for unapologetic doglovers, Alexis press fourth. July it's coming. We come boom boom. Yeah so. To look a little different, maybe maybe now are you a big fourth of July know God begin with. No. What am I saying? Yeah especially this year I think I'll probably go to protest. Thing. Yeah. Exactly that do a little. Something and then. Now I do stand before you as a as a simple soul. I know you love. I Yeah I. I love you. I mean it's dance to reason people who don't. Their arguments are very clear to sink. Why is there are what they are wrong and tiny fireworks? Sorry, tiny explosions that are pretty is a weird thing that we still do. Yeah. I get very bizarre. A used terrified of them with loud sounds a Kiddo so I feel like fireworks of now fireworks in rollercoaster the two things. I'm brave and here's how I can show you. All right rollercoaster. I think that's all the evidence we need I shouldn't do it. Yeah I like fireworks. That's to me the best part, but it's a really weird holiday to celebrate in general because I've never been the most patriotic person. Exactly, and let's get on the dog side right now. We got two PUPS. Who could care less? They don't care couldn't be more live of question you. Is that in your neighborhood? Do Fireworks go off every night already and bring? Quite a bit. Is Fine. Thanks Fine I. Sometimes you go. Was that a gun? No, yes. Who Does what that is? Is Interesting. The lack of concern to a big boom the that comes with that. You're just like well. They'll get mayor they won't. Keep doing what I'm doing. I'm watching it right exactly. Do you find especially with cats? As well that you take? The pets lead on how nervous you should be about something. ooh! Yes, actually well, you can tell by their reaction. How close they are! They, really hear the differences so sometimes. That was right in the yard. Yeah, okay, right? Okay, all right Yes, a big big out. Door sounds don't seem to bug them too much, but there's there's always something that I cannot hear that sets him off. Inevitably, if ever I'm in the shower and he starts going crazy. I was just like well. They've entered the house and it's only a matter of time. So it's not that he's being unreasonable and barking at the window again. Like. Obviously there's something to this and he knows what he's doing. I was reading just before this What to do you do have a real nervous dog with allowed sounds because I think maybe in La. Most of our dogs are used to it, but they're not. I was reading to do A. Basically give them treats every time. You hear the boom so that they have like a positive association with the sound, so even though they. Just have a bunch of tweets radio on Fourth of July and be like when they first start, they can have one and let you know, and then have a high value treat when they really start going off the dogs like whatever I'm for future years to come. They associate that sound with treats. Oh, but I'm about to get a full chicken so exactly it'll be okay. That's great. That's SMART, okay. And I love that I. always the treat element I I was like well. My vocal praises simply. Forget. Let's let's get some actual treats going there. Not Care less if I price vocal. He's like Yeah I. Know You like me. It's not my love language, and I love languages kibble. Yep Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Can we put a pin treats and how to train, because as you were saying that it was just like. Oh, I put. She can help me with that, but we we can scoot it over to crumble. Absolutely not my actual crumble, but I do need advice eight health. We have plenty of everything we talk about dogs can. Isn't that Nice, it's all. Planted that way. Too Much Will I do want to get into it. I'll tell you that much right now. Would you be up for this? Could we haven't done it a bit? Let our listeners how much we appreciate them on Apple podcasts got review up and running are very very I. Don't think I'm lying to you. When I say our very first helps, put me to sleep. Why The higher lets me settle a bad one. Hold on, let me give proper credit where credit is due risk, Alexis. Oh, here we go! So I'm here. Riffa and I'm here. I am at apple at Apple podcasts. Now I wanted to come up with. The name is just a bunch of letters. So G., H. X. D. H. G.. As to why do I wasn't able to phone? Sleep for like an hour until got into our podcast huge fan. Means so much to us if we're also putting you to sleep. Is. Describe won't you play. I always assumed that our voices where scratchy. So I, this is a treat to hear. Him honestly the highest compliment ever received at least once a week. Says an accusatory tone. Were you up with people which I am not familiar with, but I know that it's not a positive thing. yeah, I think. There's too much pep. Pep so to hear, Hey, not only. Was it not too peppy? Yes, was soothing. Is what a compliment when a compliment and then also social media. PODCAST love to see there, but now got that out of the way. Would you like Ciller sweet sweet listeners what they've gotten themselves into this? We would love to of course are crumbling updates. which not spoiling thing, but I just read the tug out a new color, and I can't wait to hear, but that caller I can't wait about We're celebrating a twentieth birthday for a dog I. Don't know what to call that segment. I Guess Happy Birthday. We also have some dog moving tips for you. It's kind of a dog news, but the news is that Rene is moving in the rest are tips, and then, of course you've put together fellow none of these Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'll. We'll call the segment. Rene once again looked up something after she already did something. Just like well. This isn't going well. Should I prepare? Oh yes, I should have done a bunch of things. Too late we'll do it next. Amplify section. I can't wait here, wait. Let's get into it. All right Alexis Preston Rene. Hear about no. Okay Mintel you yeah. I'd love to hear about chrome. I'd love nothing more I think God. because. That's all I can talk about. Could. This past weekend I went down to San Diego with grant who has not been on the podcast so that name? Now and. We went and visited a couple of family. Members quarantine safe, still secure heart, and all that but His cousin. David has a new puppy and I'm going to pull picture for Rene Right now. A His name out there errands. Oh, no, of course. His name is Derek. I wouldn't be. You can follow him on instagram already at Derek squish face. Is a baby bulldog, no and So cute on trust. Let's see. Can you see own well, hold on, let me go to instagram. Cause Cancer, but it's not. Big Enough, but not big enough you get it. I can't remember how old he is, but you know weeks like you know ten weeks perhaps old. in full baby, phase and full. Zena our listeners join me if you please don't over in script, squish. He's very. Own in. Ten weeks, something like that I can't remember, but a puppy. Just brand new had the hot press. He's older than that actually. You might be a couple months and I'm thinking about it. But it was so funny to see. Chrome now crumbs kind of out of being a puppy. I know that, but you forget a once. You're around a puppy again. I was like Oh. Yeah, they're. They're a fulltime job. You have to watch them constantly like. No one is watching Derek. Derek is suddenly eating rocks, and of course you know classic things, but. It's also funny to see Sarah Derek. The. Loose little puppy limbs like he hasn't figured out fully how they work, and he's like made of elastic, but he's really strong, because he's a bulldog and so funny because he was already stronger than crumb. But he's as tiny little guy with sharp teeth and the first time I've ever seen chrome. Get Mad at a dog a well. Derek was just too rough with him like no money because I thought with. The way tug is with chrome and stuff like Chris Pretty good about getting beat up yeah. Tumble. Derek was just doing it in such a way. That chrome was I'm the Alpha I'm not a big one. Thing you and so you kind of like snapped out. I'm not in a scary way in the dog trainee. Way of like that's actually I need my space. But. I've never seen him. I didn't even know that chrome knew that he could snap. I know I am also curious. If this was crumbs, first interaction with someone younger than him it. No, he has happy, but the ones he's. He's never met such a rambunctious puppy short like ninety puppies that are like you know. He licks them and goes okay, a little thing but this was the first met a big puppy. I think Oh. CRAW was extremely cute, though they they're about the same size right now. which is hilarious so I. I love you so much. That I do your top five of my favorite people on Earth. Can't believe. I wasn't sent a photo or video. Only because you wanted to tell me about the on the podcast. Even if that isn't true now it's true. That good okay good answer by. Obviously. Because then yeah okay course. And, then you'll send it to me and the listeners injustice I. Send it to each listener individually, okay? Such. This is incredible. I'm so excited to hear the ongoing friendship I know, Lash. Keep in line ship of of crime and daring, so Kian the This instagram is nuts so okay, so the bulldog with this is going to turn into us. Cited for that when the the sizes changed so much. Yeah. It was funny as I didn't so so bulldogs were bred to. This is look kind of weird, but to to to bite bowls like. So that's why they're so little. It's in the spring up to right to by the Bulls next which is dark. But it's funny is that's why they're so frog-like? They had these like we the. He looks like a little frog. He's got longer back legs and children's shriners seeing and it's such a I was like Oh. That's what's going on the little hoppers. Gala. Normally you say the word hopper I would correct me. She call him hopper, but you can't be Derek now, DEREK! Ex Bush faces. He's really. Funny, he's like. He's having some digestive issues you know. Puppies are to figure it all out, and they describe it as sometimes Derek leaks and tried to put a diaper on him, but because he's got a weird little bulldog, but it won't stay on. There's not a diaper they make for that. And it's just very cute problem. It's gross, but. Also real cute? Derek okay. Tell him no chicken. That's it took me forever to figure that I would tugboat. It's all over the Internet as we talked about. I go to the Internet afterwards, not before so. I love this. I'M GONNA need I'm going to need. followups place okay. You don't hear about. I! Just across the board. I'm hanging on by a lot. I'd say by a thread I got this new got a completely decorated all my own, so I've been I've been in decorating decorating themes. One of the things we talked about this. He sent me a pinterest board so so. You're worried about myself I am less of a minimalist and more of a rustic farmhouse is where where? Lies so anyway. I'm in the zone of theme, and this I did do right. Is that right now? Tugboat doesn't have a caller just because he was playing so rough done daycare that he kept breaking collars so. Without his harness either tug. Running free and I don't I see me ever. Not having him like that, but I was like should get caller with link. My number on it just feels safer so I took myself to Oetzi avoid all the sudden. We're the proud owners. A tugboat like animated. On it galler and it's not done in an artistic way like an adult way it's. Children between three and five years is where I would say the pattern lies. That's very nice i. put it on him. He was furious and humiliated the exact. That this hour GonNa meet Our Name. You're going to tell them I names tugboat and they're gonNA are. Just, TO BE THOSE PEOPLE I! I I. Don't know I think I. think a little embarrassed Jamie. I think I leaned now. We are unapologetic doglovers so I am not apologizing. I'm simply saying. Is this the type of first impression? We WanNa make an wait hold on. Ruth again. I'm going to find it for you. Hold on I'm just okay. Let me think about if I had got a caller. With a bunch of crumb on it. would. Think I'm riffing. I was saying. I'll just repeat with. Saying If I got a caller with a bunch of crumbs on it. Would I be embarrassed? That's what I was thinking and I was also thinking Alexis wouldn't do well. He's running. Thinking is what what is that caller? There's just now sure apples on. It's not a thing, so it's hard to map. It was a cookie with a bite out of it and a bunch of crumbs. But. He still thinks you're who I looked to for. What's cool and I? Don't think you do it anyway. I'm Oh, I like it. Do Do I think it's very cute also very festive for? It is it is January Navy, red and white I generally think it's much cuter than you described it. Are you sure. Okay. Okay picture this okay I'm GonNa hit Party town. For dancing, shaking her shoulders, feeling hip. I'm going to look like I'm going to look so already. That's two strikes against us. Just best targets finest. Oh my God. You're execute. What's his name tugboat? Based off his collar. Nobody's I think it's a cute like all. I found caller tugboats on it, and it's perfect because that's his name, I wouldn't ever be like this person found caller and then thought Oh, better get a dog. Honestly I, WanNa meet that person. Says, the origin story event of color and dog named. Maybe, maybe I will try that I'll try that. and see how it lands. John Pretty Funny. I'm very surprised. To this I was certain that you were going to be like. Oh, you can't let anyone. There are some I. really enjoy some. tacky things also so maybe I'm the wrong person to ask I only there's something it's kind of. It's. Could we really do a poll Nepal okay? Because I, I've leaned into chrome looking olds I attended by him. Things that I'm like Oh. This looks like what perhaps an old man that really likes the. Would by so that's usually the. Your weight you I'll show you okay all right. I'm going to show you I'm an refer a little bit listenership and so patient. Here's what we don't do. Before we prepare for the podcast we do get a google. Doc. We do figure out what stories we're going to tell ahead of time. We don't set up our props which we should be okay. So this is trump caller and green with this little red. Okay now looks though it does look like GRANDPA suspenders. Yes, exactly so that's I've been going for with him. Again. It's silly choice but I think the time to be silly. I do because when I first got tug and God bless you listeners. If you don't know what her dogs look like, I am listen I. Know I know it's okay. The Patriots on the front. Look at that go. Yeah, look at that so took smiling in that, but when Tuck doesn't smile, he gave he looks like. Spike years on him. And when I got him, his name came with rocky, but I wanted to have an unassuming name like I wanted it to be nice 'cause he can look so tough. The maybe I just leaned into that exactly it. Should I put them in baby jammies on top of this? TYPO COLLAR Goofy things because you have a funny. You have a pit. Malaria. Put Him in as well in this. Yeah. This is exactly the encouragement. I needed from the person. I needed it from us. Thank you well now. I posted it on Instagram, saying he was embarrassed about it, but should I take a step back and. Should I really work in? The fashion police have reconvened. He's off. Listen Gentlemen turns out I'm a genius. Yes, exactly okay great perfect. What was your dog training question yet? Well, you know what I was thinking is. We could scoot that into the apartment because it's based off the new apartments. Let's go over there all right me over there. Alexis Do you know what time it is, is it? It is time for my meant minute with Tanya and Toki hated. Minute with Toki? Toki is an eight year old seventy pound airedale terrier airedales are somehow silly and regal at the same time in Tokyo is true to form with her fluffy mustache and beard, expressive eyebrows and bright eyes when her hair is cut. She looks like a terrier, but when it's long, she resembles a fluffy teddy bear or an e walk. She has one special ear that points up in one that flops over. Toki doesn't care for dog toys or balls, but love socks. She throws them in the air and then pounces on them, but never tears them up. Toki loves to ride on the panel board with her mommy on our lake and keeps a close eye out for fishes and turtles. She's a very good girl and love to run in the woods, looking for chipmunks, squirrels and the occasional deer, but she always keeps a close eye on mom and dad. And the cookies in their pockets. She loves food of any kind, but especially the people variety. And even though dinnertime is at four PM, she's pretty sure it's at three thirty and will wiggle and open mouth smile at US until she's convinced us that she's right. That's my time Oh key. Yeah Tanya de the sweet sweet. Favor honestly of sending. Pictures of Tokyo and the description of Teddy bear is accurate. Yes, just my goodness. Just. A bear that can't be ready and do we have one on the paddle boarding? We do. Just just hanging out. Doesn't a paddleboard, man. The best thing. Yeah. I could swim I could. audie paddle. Absolutely perfect I also love dog. Who can convince you that your glocks on? That was clock Israel. Yes, yes, yes, yes, for sure seeing the photos of this dog. How do you say no to them? Yeah, of course are GONNA. Give me one glance and offer it everything I. I will throw away the clock immediately as broken clearly. They let saving somewhere right. You're correct, Toki. Tanya excellent works Alexis. How would you like to tell everyone else how they send in their my minute and I will tell you this. They're coming out a little bit sparse these days. We have planning. But you guys, it's so. We're currently accepting my minutes in a way that we're we're. We got him. We need them. You get him in here. Yes if you have a my minute that you would like to record, go ahead and recorded on your phone or your computer or whatever you have to record your voice, and then email it to us at. Can I get your dog podcast at gmail.com, and we will play it on the show. And please send us photos if you can. Because it really helps paint the whole picture for us. And make Saturday. Yeah, honestly. Hey, I'm Jerry. Hill Co host the brand new maximum fun, podcast Fanti I'm travel, Anderson I'm the other more fabulous co host, and the reason you really should be especially. The nausea rising FANTI is to be a big fan of something, but also have some challenging anti feelings toward it Cognac. We're all fans of Kanye. He's genius, but like you know beefing slavery choice like the real housewives of Atlanta love the drama, but do I wanna see black men fighting each other on screen you to Nah Nah Nah. 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I think it's just the the tone with which you put on happy birthday because it could be a great segment. But it also could be. All right here we go happy birthday and Another. Dog has birthday the segment. In this case I think it's got some some punctuation behind. Big Exclamation Point Birthday. You. Guys know this you know this. Dogs but. He is Golden Retriever in Tennessee you already know this, why are we doing? Not. Heard Twenty. Th Birthday is a dog. A golden retriever celebrated her twentieth birthday oldest Living One retriever. On record on our, but I feel like she did it, she did it. Was a great sport about it. was there one hundred person? planned. Party yes, but again had to get a little scooted. because of Covid so said they made her a dog friendly carrot cake day in the article that says that they gave her pasta gave her blueberries. They gave her bread oliver favorite things, and then in parentheses moderation. She was fine. To one knee. She wears this age so well. Yes, she now let's. The face. Beautiful White and then the rest flowing golden now here's what I love about hockey I love the trailblazer element of this in that yet dogs last twenty and year two four. That's the new rule. That's true. So when I get like Oh God. Oh God! Oh, God twenty! You're fine. He's three. He's going to outlive. You have seventeen. What yes, exactly I have to break it to him I. Let them know what I want him to play my services. If you? WanNa fun time. Take yourself to the Internet I. Feel like if you just put in Augie, twentieth birthday. Maybe toss dog, golden retriever, a little bit closer to it, but it was real sweet. Sweet! Happy Birthday. Soon lovely to see you. It's great to see you. I miss. You I was like I. Don't know when I'm ever going to see her again. At the end of that last segment and then here you are. Thank goodness because they did have a question so liz. This segment is called what to do. When you're moving with your dog. As per always, tug is pretty good. Rolling with the punches at his not rolled will with this punch. She's acting up a little bit. I was over at the new apartment finishing up some painting we had officially moved yet and I just ran to the the old dumpster to take it out and he lost his mind. And we've been to this apartment link four or five times just like back and forth getting stuff ready, so I figured. Yeah, he's familiar with it. He's certainly was not so so then. I took myself to AKC and I was like well. What should you when you're moving with a dog and I tell you one. It's just a list of things that didn't do. So I will now is the part where I'll Alaska listeners. Hey, guys helped me. because initially. I think if you're if you're traveling with them. You're supposed to like a decrease food a little bit, so they don't get an upset stomach. There was a lot of like mixture. The routine stays the exactly the same as you're moving. Make sure they don't see you. Move stuff out of the apartment, yes. That happened to the point where tug was sleeping on his toys because he was like listen, you're throwing everything awake. On Okay. Probably not great. Yes, so so I've done everything wrong up until this point, but I think I caught it in time because now I have you and this article. Feel. Good well until he until you the plan, so you're moving into a new apartment new apartment new me. Yes, got to be great I'm going to give every morning at sex. AM GONNA run so I was excited for the very first day that I was. There is I'll just I'll go out on a run. You can't run boat because he didn't care for it. But I'll I'll go for a run back tug. will be great, but this article is like. Don't leave them alone in the apartment. Don't do that the first day, so luckily Commun- time I will not be doing that in the first day. We get there I'll give it a week. Give it a week. It's as basically like. Don't let them leave your side for a week. With the entire time. The fear is because you've taken away. They're a you know security. It's like an abandonment thing where it's like well, you're going to go to and I'm just going to be left here and So that's you know fair on their part. And I think as long as you're consistent with him, he'll we find luckily. We're still in lockdown, so it's not like normally. I think this would be a lot harder like if you're going to work, move would definitely be harder. You might need someone to come and hang out with him for a little bit. Honestly, I! Think it's just GONNA be. Like, you said a week or so of him readjusting but. Yeah, and hopefully he gets also I will say this has been so lovely lockdown. Wise traffic wise. I. I will take a bit longer to move all by yourself. Who would have? Not Is. It takes a bit of time, so here's where injured vice there is a just couldn't be night and just a bunch of families within this kind of get it. It's not a gated community per se, but it's just A. It's really sweet, and the sort of common areas are pretty well frequented with these families and their cats, so there's three cats just roam around I was talking to one of the families you just could be. Other cats tugboat just is is ramped up. Is He could be? The cat knows tugs on a leash, so just kind of rolls over for a bit of a Billy Rodman like Mary and you'll get used to it. And did great for two minutes and then lot just. Lost it so what? What is that acclimation? Element and how do I incorporate treats into this? I I think it's sort of A. Have you worked on the leave it command. So. What I did with crime and he's not like perfect audit like still were reacts to squirrels and things sometimes, but at least they know that they're. Not. Listening you know because they had the command, so it's basically putting a treat on the ground and having another one in your hand, and then you teach them to leave the one the ground. You'll leave it and when they start to go for it like take it away. Yeah, and then you put it back on the ground and you say leave it, and then finally when they do leave you give them the truth from your hand and put. Now I have done stay sounds like the exact same thing I can throw a tree at him and he won't do anything. That's good until I say okay. Implemented to at so all those are really helpful, but you have to do them outside of your house. Yeah, so. Bad about too because it's like yeah. Crumbs route. Great at leave it in the house around their distractions, so I would say take next time you go on a walk. Just try doing stay. While outside walking, okay. And just practice that and then maybe try applying it to a toy, so it's more like a cat. All I can think of it's hard because cats are loose. Like you can yeah, introduce them fully for their own right, but. Yeah and I don't have any examples of this working, but I just have to believe they live there so eventually he's gotTa. 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Wonderful! 120: Sausage Sandcastle

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Wonderful! 120: Sausage Sandcastle

"I'm Rachel mcelroy. Hello this is Griffin mcelroy and this is wonderful and the Oscar for best wife goes to Rachel mcelroy. Let me look at the. I'm looking at the look. Here's a full list of nominees nominees for best wife go to our nominated as follows. Rachel mcelroy the cuts to me. I'm smiling but not clapping. Nothing not clapping Mary. Steenburgen got Michelle Obama. That's it three nominees stay usually. There's five but I guess I couldn't think of a lot more. Just Kristen. Bell would have made that list. She's doing good good. She's doing good but she won last year so they're not going to do it again. Bright and the winters Rachel wrong. What's your speech First of all thank you due to the academy for this nomination I WANNA say I couldn't have done it without being a wife I A second wife always high as my husband Mockery Griffin. Thanks for making me wife and for making me wife every day your wife and also Thank you due to my agent Thank you to The producers which would be my parents and the peace in the Middle East. Oh Shit Mary steenburgen rushing the stage she could take me down she could probably probably knock you right over. This is wonderful show where we talk about things that are good. My small wonder is that parasite won for best picture that was fucking radical now so huge. That's what I like. Momentous thing and also like unexpected. It's the movie that I loved by far the best last year so I am over the moon that it one I wanna want to watch it again but I'm also pretty scared to watch it again. That's kind of where I'm at emotionally way. Why just because it's a scary movie? It's not a scary. Isn't even the right word for it. It's just like it blew me so far away when we saw it in theaters that I almost want to like treasure that experience of seeing i. I don't know how like watching it. Knowing how it unfolds is GonNa wake treat me good point It's weird. It's one of those movies that I walked out of and I was like I got soon as that comes out. I'M GONNA buy on DVD. And I was like wait a minute. I don't have to do that. I did the same thing with spider verse when we got us about ever since I can't wait to buy that on. DVD It was like well. That's not how it is anymore so I bought it on digital on Apple. TV like when it first came out and that's not the same. Yeah but we have watched it like at least a dozen. We have gotten more mileage out of spider versus. I know my God. Hey Do you have any small wonders. I wanted to say. I don't think we've talked about it. we finished cheer on Netflix. We did ED and I think Griffin and I mainly watched it because it's been recommended to us so many times. Neither of us is particularly interested in cheerleading. Just neither of us has a particular familiarity garrity with it Great Great Show it's It's really remarkable. There's so much content out there now about the the people in it and the whole Sport of cheerleading. And I'm just gobbling up man. Yeah Juicy Jerry on the red carpet I did. I am so proud out there. Crushing thing it. I just loved how many people like Laura dern for example so excited to see Jerry yes it was great. Oh my God that whole Laura Dern clip that you sent me the squire of Los Angeles singing about things and moving things that happen in movies in two thousand nineteen that we're gay that a lot of people didn't realize were and then they just had like a whole stance about Laura dern and her face as she kind of just like realized what was happening was fucking incredible. Go Watch it if you didn't see at. Hey I go I this week okay. My first thing I was trying to figure out okay a lot of the Times I can draw a direct line between like the catalyst and me talking about something on the show like what what happened. What was I watching? What was I looking at? That made me want to talk about this thing on the show and I couldn't piece it together until just now as talking about the Oscars. Maybe why I want to go this way. I'm GonNa talk about an actor. I don't think I've ever done that before. Talked about. Oh No we don't usually talk about people. I'm talk about an actor. Well you talk about like poets and stuff all the time. We talk about artists of musical artists but never like actors. I'm going to talk about an actor whose name is j. case that's a good pay at. That's such a good pick right like I just been I've just been thinking about. Jk lately just been thinking about jk lately. I think that a farmer's insurance commercials served up to you a lot you get those IOS eminem's commercials where he did originate the yellow peanut eminem fillets. I mean. He does a lot of voice work but also I just for whatever reason and maybe because I watch a lot of like music stuff like music theory stuff on Youtube I get served a lot of clips from whiplash And if you don't know who J. K.. Simmons says he plays the the band leader in whiplash. He plays the Yellow Eminem. I don't think he actually does that. Anymore I would say probably his most sort of like Worldwide wide role that people knew him for was J.. Joni Jameson in the Spiderman films a role that he really just made a fucking meal out. It is so so good in until like those are the things I think of when I think of J. K. Simmons and he's fantastic all of those whiplash like Holy Shit. He won the Oscar for whiplash. Yes he should have because he is terrifying and incredible in that role as so few like A movie villains ever have been he's got like he's got a great face for intensity but he's also got great intensity for intensity yes he can also go soft often it. I'm going to get to that here in a little bit Here's what I didn't really okay so I think about those things right whiplash EMINEM's whatever today. I just like googled. His the body of work and it is fucking incredible. How much just the raw tonnage of shit this dude has been in? I'm just GonNa do a quick rundown and this is like the cream of the crop. There is a humongous list of films and TV shows. This has been a part of let me just run it down okay. First Wives Club cider House House rules spider-man's Hidalgo thank you for smoking. Juno burn after reading. I love you man up in the Air True Grit where he was credited for some reason whiplash jobs terminator renamed Janet Genesis April and the extraordinary World Kung Fu panda. Three Zootopia Lala Land. I'm not here. Justice League Klaus Online order for one hundred years law and order. SVU The closer. The legend of Cora a bunch of Spiderman TV shows and Video Games Bocek Horsemen Veronica. Mars like who. That's a lot of shit. I forgot got about Juneau. Juneau was the one I had my head. But I couldn't remember what I was picturing. Juno I like a lot because do you know he is not playing j Jonah Jameson. As he does a lot of his other roles one might have real data energy in that that just is so believable that energy in in that film and he's not playing the angry man like you say even even with wash has age Jason Bennett but Juno you just you wanna you WanNa do good. You want to be familiar with J Jonah Jameson. So is this across multiple spider-man's that he has played this character. Yes I don't WanNa do any spoilers about which spider-man's he does and does not show up in it is the more than just one spiderman. Oh yeah he was in all tobey Maguire ones he owned. Now that's what I mean like with other actors uh-huh yes okay and I'll leave it at that okay but he He wants Pictures Spiderman. He works for the paper also hates them. He's a menace. And I just like I just like I don't know man. He's so he's so good in everything I see him any there. I cannot think of too many actors that like when I see that they are in a movie. I get excited for the performance. They're about to do. And maybe that's not like a great thing because I'm not so divorced from like Cam as an actor that I can really lose myself in the role that he's playing but like whenever I see him in the new season of Veronica Mars ars. I'm like fuck. Yeah J. K.. Simmons here we go take me on a ride bud and I just like whenever I see him in a movie and TV show another urge that I I have is that I don't want to disappoint him and I don't know begin unpacking that I think thinking about casting whiplash lake. Nick do you think before they even finished it. They were thinking him because it seems like such a good fit man. I Dunno which which role in whiplash it's harder to cast the demon bandleader or the like incredibly proficient young Drummer J. K.. Simmons couldn't be that sure. Sure yeah miles and miles teller crush that too. Yeah I just like it is. It is weird to bring an actor to this show and I thought about doing it with other other actors and other people in the cinematic arts and none of them really felt like like completely ernest or not like completely like obvious. Obvious or whatever but shaky Simmons is just like he's fucking great income everything now. There's definitely some beloved actors that like people would probably put on their list. But I feel like J. K.. Simmons is often overlooked. Yeah and his. Name's Funny J. K. Simmons J. K.. Rowling try to they do that. And he's like I. Now Listen J. K.. Simmons now that's my name. He got those wrinkles. He got those like cheek wrinkles. That are just so fucking walking scary so intense and good damn. Hey what's your first thing. I want to Google Young Jason. I'll work on that. Okay find anything. Yeah I mean. It's not is it not a transformation. I'm looking at a picture of him wearing a very loud suit. That seems. Photoshop doesn't it's J. K.. Simmons and he's walking in a fashion show and he's got like this incredible floral suit on. It's fucking amazing. Okay sorry what's your first thing. My first thing is bobbleheads. Really Yeah Really. He's guys okay. Stay still heads. Sometimes I want to say still you know. Do you. Not like a like a wiggling toy. What about like a like a dashboard wiggle toy? All those are so cool a little surfer. Yeah like a little You know like Santa Claus. But he's on vacation and he's on surfboard. Yeah and he's like just like completely nude I have been kind of surrounded by bobbleheads throughout my life and it wasn't something I really thought about until recently recently my dad is I've mentioned as collector of sports memorabilia and any other numbers of memorabilia 's and he's a memorable double guy and a lot of that. Memorabilia is in the shape of bobbleheads yes and then my grandmother For a long time collected little porcelain figures that had that kind of bobble element just oversize heads. Are they actually bobbled. No it was like a little like the little hand the little foot would kind of wiggle allow gay so it was less about like a big cartoonish head more about like a piece of the figure. Would I know what you're talking. Yeah it's very creepy. Because when among a bunch of non ambulatory porcelain figures. And then you see one and they're fucking enhanced. Are you kidding me. She would always call them. Nodar which is actually another word for bobblehead musically It's head is connected to the body by a spring or a hook so like that. A TAP will cause it to bobble. During the seventeenth century figurines of Buddha and other religious figures were called Temple maters and produced in Asia interest and then in the nineteenth century. That's where you saw the bisque porcelain bobbleheads being made paid for the US. So that's the kind of stuff that she would collect. What is Bisque bisque? Like a super hard kind of porcelain. If I remember correctly I just thought it soup in one thousand nine hundred sixty was when you started to see the collectible era so in nineteen sixty major league baseball produced paper mcshea bobbleheads for all the teams teams The World Series brought the first player specific bobbleheads for Roberto Clemente Mickey Mantle. Roger Marris and Willie Mays Ace. How much money do you think those are worth these days? I mean paid for Michelle right like the idea those holding up. It's insane. Maybe the thing about those was that they were not at all personalized allies like the faces. The heads looked exactly the same that just put different colors so they would put like the colors of the team on the Little Jersey but it was just baseball. Same face that's The other kind of famous bobbleheads set from the era is the Beatles. One one which. I'm pretty sure my dad had I believe that super super collectible these days You saw a return to this in the nineteen nineties and part heart of that was because all of a sudden they were implants. Tick which like. I don't know why it took them so long. The first Major League Baseball team to offer Bobblehead giveaway at the stadium was the San Francisco giants in nineteen ninety nine so that this is like a thing. Now Yeah with like I. I assume that it's been happening. My entire live. They distributed thirty five thousand. Willie mays nod irs at their nineteen ninety nine game coal and then two thousand and two mini bobblehead so this is two or three inches tall in a cereal box. Do we have any bobbleheads in our house. Active wing years thing. I'm not requesting an an entire wall of bobbleheads righteous kind of delighted by them. They are the moving toy and that's pretty cool And then also you know the customizable one. I feel like the office with Dwight true. That was the first time like the idea kind of struck anyone and now you can just get online and make one for yourself. That's fine. Hey by the way are po box. This is about to be just boiled with with Rachel heads. I know that's why I wanted to make clear. I'm not looking for a wall of these. Find them wonderful. I think there are delightful delightful right just you got to be careful because one time. I talked about plastic crawdads and said something about ruining my box crawdads and then for that. Yeah Yeah that's fair. The phrase was ruined my box. That's true I don't think I ever got an update on that but They my. Po box was ruined ruined with plastic crawdads. Here's something that might be exciting The people in the Midwest in two thousand sixteen the National Bobblehead Hall of Fame mm-hmm opened in Milwaukee. Hey the collection is about ten thousand bobbleheads with around six thousand five hundred on display in four thousand square feet Where are the other ones? That aren't on display. I imagine they cycle them in and out. Okay like they said. For example there's going to be Like a democratic macrobiotic National Convention there in Twenty Twenty this year and They the Bobblehead Hall of fame is going to do a political bobblehead exhibit. Zip It that's not gonNA go. Good January seventh is National Bobblehead Day. Thank you baby in two thousand sixteen. The Guinness Book of World Records. Mark the world's largest bobblehead fifteen feet tall. That's really dangerous. It was a Saint Bernard named Goldie was like the Mascot for some insurance company and so they They made a fifteen foot tall bobblehead. Yeah Saint Bernard too big dog. I mean it could have been any breed of dog and still be fifteen feet tall true but like there's something about the size of a Saint Bernard head. 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Thank you Paddington is a big the big thing over here in America. Did you grow up. Just a Lotta time with the bear. No you know. There's those reboots that really the Really made it big. And then Rachel and I recently tried to rewatch stuart little and it's a fucking rough ride. y'All it is has a lot of Nathan Lane as a cat just going Mike now again. A hairball stinks. Like Pu Pass. CAST is incredible right though. It's Hugh. Laurie Davis Yeah the little kid from Jerry Maguire Jay Fox. It's just like that falls in that era of CGI. That is just look at people. Hey why are we reviewing stuart little. Who is there? Another trump okay. This next message is for Nicolette and Preston is from Kelsey Nikki. Preston congrats on your upcoming wedding. After you guys met day one of college when Nikki so oh smoothly complimented Preston on his neuro jacket. We knew you were meant for each other. I am so happy for you and wish you all the best. ps We discern airplane Ordine di even though we live in different states love. You always Kelsey. Can you give me a little primer in Ruto. Because I don't really know sure shirt her. So he is a Ninja boy with a headband. That has little swirly thing on it. Okay when he runs his arms go behind him. Okay thus in all of my. There's a thing now. There's a show out called Bo Rudo Budo Budo Burrito and I guess maybe it's his son or his brother or his dad could be a prequel. Now I get I do like that. That's some fun to say. And Yeah that's it okay. Well I feel caught up now. Good good yeah we plumbed the depths. Hey everyone alden forward here with the cast of mission. Six our fourth season premiered on February nineteenth. And for those of you who aren't familiar with the show. We decided to ask one of our characters to give you a quick recap of what's happened so far. Say Hello to the clone trooper happening. Okay but your gun downed. Can you just tell us what's happened in six quadrant in the last couple of seasons. Oh we destroyed the emperor. Okay I think I think so. We knocked him into a chasm. Mister robot ship crashed the window and Dr Maybe Horse ended. I took like a butcher bad guys. Top of his destiny and the Lizard. was there too. Okay Great. I guess I'm sort of asking what the show is like. Oh you mean blake improvise serialize allies workplace space opera featuring credible guest stars an epic hilarious tale of fresh versus whack. Yeah wow where did you come up with that Jesse Thornton me write it on my part. Okay all right well. Ju Mission is the season for debuts on February nineteenth and maximum fun check it out. Can't hear your next thing. My second thing is is French. Toast fine inched toast. I know you're saying hey this is the second breakfast bread type food that you've brought Griffin. Because he brought waffles us in like episode fifty-six or something like that and I'll say that's a fair criticism but we made French. I Made French toast this past last weekend. Yeah give yourself credit. I Made French shows this past weekend. And it's like here's the thing about French toast. I cannot think of a a food like prep-work to eating experience ratio. That pays out better than French toast. So true I Tend to be a savory breakfast busiest yes but if I'm gonNA have a sweet thing I wanted to be French toast yeah I mean it's it is for whatever reason I'm not sure when the switch flip when I'm out at a restaurant and they have a bunch of like swing breakfast things. French toast is the only thing on there I think like hey I could eat that and not feel like complete dog shit. And it's I'm wrong 'cause I eat it and then I immediately want to sleep for for the next twenty four hours made it with this. Like Cinnamon Raisin Brown Sugar Swirl bread and it was hold Alicia I got that Pepperidge Farm Shit. I hate it for dessert later that day. Yeah it was really good and it's just like there's a lot of ways to do it but me just beat some eggs pillow bill milk in there darrelle bit of cinnamon in there and then vanilla play Evenlyn there. Sometimes I feel old zesty. I didn't last time because I figured there was plenty of sweet us. They're already Eddie. Dip some bread and toss it in agree skillet flip it and then that's it you can put Syrup on it you can put jellies jams. You can put powdered sugar on it. I remember the first time I made French toast. Just being shocked by how easy it was just like. Oh this is all it was I can say almost certainly the first thing I learned how to like quote Unquote Cook Right Right. Yeah I think so well because you really can't fuck up French toast. The only way you fuck French toast is by like not cooking it long enough or over cooking. But that's true of all foods and we're not getting gooey enough the margin of error for French toast. I would argue is pretty fucking wide like it's pretty easy to cook French toast and also I think the only thing I've ever cooked the Henry Eight and enjoyed so that's very exciting. It was definitely the first thing I cooked for you. When we first started dating and we would have little sleepovers the next morning shows how innocent Griffin is that the concept of this like still oh like strikes him as risque like did you now sometime couples before they're married what they call sleep? Alerts rendezvous rendezvous an overnight excursion the next morning. I would make a peanut butter and banana and a French toast and then we would just sort of lay motionless. Yeah that's true ten hours as it slowly worked. Its way through. I you know I had an instinct of saying we should do that again but then we just couldn't we can't our lifestyles. Our lifestyle is different now. The only way we could do it is. We got a guarantee that Henry would do it and the three of us could then leave. It's just got like it's got texture that I'm just Gaga for that bread. Egg Techs sure for me is like his just like perfection. And it's just like you know what else is sort of miraculous about it. If you have a kitchen that is even remotely like decently stocked at any given point. You've probably got what you need to make French toast. And it's not true of like a lot of other shit shit like yeah and maybe it's just because there are you know three ingredients in it and there's like you know you don't have to worry about baking soda you know about. Aw All that she had like a waffle iron. No you need a Pan. You need bread. You Need Eg you could probably get away with just that now. I mean you need the milk. Well okay I think the milk is even option. We can talk about that. We can debate that later. There's just always got a road to French toast I I think that's really special. Unsurprisingly like every culture has had a version of French toast. Because it's like it's pretty obvious. At some point everybody was like Bredon Egg and cook. That's good so it wasn't like like why do we call it French toast. So that's wild. As far as I can tell we call it French toast because like like in the eighteenth century there were recipes being published that referred to it as French toast. And like it just kind of snowballed from there But like we're the only you want to call it for a couple of other countries to call it French toast. What do they call it in other places? While in France they call it pan pair. Do which means lost bread which is referring to the fact that that it's made with stale bread like for the recipe allowed time because who gives a shit you're gonNA toss it in Eggington fried up anyway. The the most entertaining name for me is a fourteenth century German recipe which called it Arme Ritter which translates to poor nights. And there's a lot of places that still call French Toast Poor Knights or specifically poor knights of Windsor which is more or less the exact same thing a lot of people. Just call it Eggy bread too you. That's powerful as well but no matter what it's called rose by any other name is still being tastes real good in the mornings and be a great little vehicle for Syrup experience. What is your second topic? You're going to be mad that I picked this comes stealing it right out from under you. Hoe Shit it's chef club. I am so fucking your club chef club. It's the core of my being league club so it seems a little unfair that I would steal it from him. I mean you're leaving a lot of other meat on the table. You're leaving me. Five minute crafts. You're leaving me a lot of. There's a lot of other a lot a lot more road to hell. I guess I appreciate that but God chef club is so special. Chef club is something within that. We came to by way of facebook right. I mean it's where all garbage videos come to us from if you go to chef club on facebook book. Believe it's chef club network. Where you will? There's a lot of chef club In the in the immediate video you will be honored with the never fails to make me laugh is as a full Turkey and a pair of hands yes getting ready to shove an entire block of what looks kind of like Velveeta into the Turkey not like the kind of feed buy at the store though like a novelty comically large brick velvety. That you might like Spencer's gifts as a joke. here's the thing. We're not the only ones watching chef glove okay. This is an article from November twenty nineteen. The company now has seventy five million followers across God multiple social media platforms. It generates a billion video views per month and reaches two hundred million people. She's s They're fifty people working for chef club. The entire team is based in Paris right. I figured that was the one third of them who are not French okay. they optimize content for facebook has become increasingly harder to work around facebook's algorithm to reach a large audience but the startup has been through ups and downs the relentless efforts have been key cheated. The company's growth as many media brands simply gave up on facebook. Yeah and it seems like in order to hang in there you really do have to stuff fuck Turkey with cheese bricks. They their approach to cooking Is such that. Nothing can be wrapped in too many things. Right if you were to take a protein You would think all right. Well I have a protein. Let's move on to something else but no they would wrap but another protein right and then put it inside a third protein that would then be put on top of a fourth protein right. And there's a great great deal of shaping and moulding morphing that has dine. There has been more than one video in which a rubber rubber glove has been used as a sort of a mold one filled with meat. We saw one filled with chocolate. So they're multi disciplinarians Glenn areas. And that's very exciting There we should mention to that at the end as in most cooking videos. There is a demonstration of the final title product with chef club it almost exclusively has some kind of fluid being secreted from the middle of it. Rachel and I always say. There's that Goose Bay. Hey they really focus in on the payoff of the Gush. Yeah they love the gooch none of the foods. Well okay. There have been a handful and I'm ashamed ashamed to say it but like there have been a handful of these videos where Mike I would fuck with that. But then there's a lot of them where it's just like that's not traditionally edible. They he made us sort of. How would you describe it? A sausage sandcastle maybe That heavily watched different quadrants and there were beer. Cheese quadrants worry. They're big on dippers. They're big online. Laps spreads right and so in to the Washington beer cheese. Who would take a sausage Outta the sausage sandcastle and dip it in the beer cheese and then take a it is the only matthew on earth but then any other quadrants there was just straight up special and it's like you can't dip anything special it's a fucking noodle? Yeah we watch this kind of inexplicable video of a bunch of like a sausage wall being constructed and Griffin was is more concerned about the structural integrity of dipping the sausage into the special. It's they in addition to protein layers. They also do a lot of unconventional attention. All containers right and then like but just sometimes the container doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I I mean we really can't dismantle chef club just by nature just a extraordinary experience Rachel on. I just have a category of videos that we like on facebook and I would say chef club is the hot commodity right now but like videos of just things that they can't can't make a hand you can't make a loaf Amedee hand. Low Chef. Apparently not only is on facebook. They're on Youtube. They're on snapchat instagram. And Tick Tock okay. Well if there's any I feel like we've watched every chef club video and now it's like I what I get so stoked when I see there's a new one But I didn't know about the tick Tock. Maybe this is the thing that gets me on. Talk the company. I started with the recipe book. And you could scan. QR codes in the book to play the video on your fault. It's clever And they also. We've seen this advertise a lot. They have introduce introduce kiddos Kit for kids so book with Twenty Recipes and Measuring Cups. Now this is cute. Actually because I think I just figured it out from the last videos like the measuring measuring cups have little animals on it. So it's like you add a lion of lower. Oh that's cute. I kind of like that. I can't always weird. Because you watch this really grotesque video yeah With you know ground beef inside Bacon inside over Turkey inside of an elephant and then they're like kids measuring cups and you're like I. I don't want my kid here this thing. I'm afraid I'm going to open up one of those measuring cups and just like a Ghoushe of molten cheese is GONNA pour out of it for some reason. It's like a clam. Shell package inside. You see the measuring cups you open it up and then there's a river of magma chocolate. Why where we had this idea that? Maybe maybe we should host some kind of gathering where everybody has to make a chef club recipe thing is like for the most part. These videos are actionable actionable like they are giving you radiance food. They're telling you like this is how much of this you know tomato tomato sauce. You'll need to put on these pork chops that you will then wrap right and provolone cheese and then wrap in in Pasta and then put on a skewer right and that skewer by the way this whole thing's going inside a poke cake so and you know we're GonNa Mirror glazing that that's why you watch the video in the first place chef club network coming. Go Watch more shit while we have to finish the PODCAST. Hey do you wanna not our friends. The home are talking about yes. Elissa says hi guys. I really love using the word. Best to sign my emails. I take so much joy in this simple word that is all at wants positive. Ambiguous appropriate for all occasions recipients and means absolutely nothing while serving a such a necessary social function. I'm a big fan of best use best ever over. I don't really send emails that much. I feel like I was in college. Maybe I I saw that was like that's a good one 'cause like fondly fondly or sincerely doesn't always feel very friendly but best feels kind of conversational I should say. I don't send the kind of emails these days there. You've got like a signature which is to say like very rarely am I. E mailing somebody who already have certain pre existing kind of relationship with breath. So no I don't think I've ever typed best but I do like the efficiency of Connor says I work as a finish carpenter and something I find. Wonderful is when I am cutting baseboards and a leftover scrap. Pieces the exact size down to the sixteenth of an inch as the next piece. I need to cut. It's only happened three times in my two years at my job but it always makes my whole day. I can't imagine yeah I mean that sounds. That sounds great. I can tell you the number of times that like I have. I tried to build something and then forgot to like cut one of the pieces down to make up for the other piece being longer or whatever and then they don't mm fit by a margin. I have to take back to the lows to get an adult to cut it to the right size for me but I cannot tell you what this perfect experience feels like because I'm just not a carpenter but you're a lot of other things griffin sure. I like the band. The carpenters yeah can do that. Kariuki Cookie I'm a proficient plumber. which is to say? Hey installed a BA- deysi Bowen and Augusta's for these far theme song Won't pay you can finally to that episode description and thank you to maximum fun for having us on the network maximum. Fine has some of the best shows that you will find out there in the podcasts. Casts World This week I'm going to recommend. Can I pet your dog Yes always answering the question. But I don't have one so so what are you talking about you know what's great about. Can I pet your dog. 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Le Show For the Week of Nov. 25, 2018

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Le Show For the Week of Nov. 25, 2018

"Period. From. Device choice. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm fine. But it sounds like your audio device of choice may have a sinus infection. You may ask where are the welfare queens of today to be found? I would suggest welfare queens are in the boardrooms even before the cause of the deadly camp fire is determined lawmakers in California are drafting legislation to shield the public utility, the electric company northern California PG and E shield that company from massive liabilities connected to the blaze. You don't want the electric company to be responsible for sparking on the lines that. Quote, we want to send a signal to the financial markets. Hey, guys, love us. Oh, sorry. That we are not going to leave the abilities flapping in the wind said Kelly Smith chief consultant for the state assembly utilities and energy committee is according to the bay area news group, the legislation will be introduced by democratic. That's right. Well, there aren't any Republicans in California. So the Democrats have to act like democratic assemblyman Kris Holden valet county, the Bill will protect California's major investor owns utilities from wildfire liabilities make feel more like nuclear power plants. No problem. We got to covered what a happy thanksgiving gift. This is for PG and shareholders directors and executives to enjoy this holiday weekend. While we were twelve thousand residents of Butte county spent thanksgiving in shelters tents or their cars, some mourning their dead or distraught over loved ones who were missing. That's from Senator Jerry hill. Also. A frequent critic of Jeannie, see, there's no Republican. So some of the Democrats have to act like Democrats the idea behind the anticipated legislative fix would be to ensure that financial liabilities arising from any destructive wildfires this year. Don't destabilize big utility like genie. Governor Brown couple months ago, signed a sweeping Bill designed to remedy California's past present and future wildfire ailments brushing aside criticism that the measure was a bailout for e c he was a democrat, but he had to act which faces a troubling mountain of liabilities. Does PG any linked to infernos the torch the wine country and other regions a year ago from sparking on the lines. You don't want them to have to go out. And that Bill created a smoothie path for state regulators and PG Anita pass on costs. To the company's customers with higher monthly power bills. That's called socialising the costs. The Bill requires the state public abilities commission to set up a stress test to determine the maximum amount. The utility and its shareholders can bear without crossing the bankruptcy which point. Got news. What would happen could end up like the Los Angeles department of water and power, which isn't investor owned wants that when you can have welfare queens in the boardroom. Hello, welcome to the show. Great. From east scooter paradise drop them anywhere. Please really just like everything else. I'm Harry, Shearer Santa Monica, California. Of course, I'm Harry Shearer. Welcome you to this edition of the show, analogies and gentleman. News of the Olympic movement. Produced by Jim members, all junior. Speaking dropping it anywhere. They got nowhere to drop the Olympics. The International Olympic Committee is facing the most serious bidding crisis. In decades has cities drop out of the twenty twenty six winter bid race almos-. Leaving a field of just two candidates. The Canadian city of Calgary on Tuesday became the latest to pull the plug on its twenty twenty six games. Candidacy more about that. In a moment. Original list of seven cities, only stock home and an Italian bid remain. Those are struggling for local and governmental support. To raining bigger. Mitt bidders Stockholm pulled out of the twenty twenty two bidding process. After 'bout balking at the games cost and the fragile combined talion candidacy of Milan and court, Dino, the Italian Bidwill at one point included Torino before that city pulled out after a disagreement with the other two is far from guaranteed the necessary political support amid the country's financial woes. The U is telling him at budget. Don't work Stockholm is facing opposition from new city government, which said last month, it will be against any bid that includes taxpayer funding. Well. We're you're supposed to get the whole situation leaves the according to Reuters struggling to understand what's gone wrong after reforms in recent years under agenda twenty twenty and the new norm to banners that they hung over the thing. Those programs are aimed at making bidding and staging the games cheaper and easier, but a failed to attract new cities almost as if they don't believe the banners, instead, the exodus has increased piling pressure on the and the president Thomas Bach to stem the flow. News as last month. What would happen if Calgary dropped out? He said there is no plan b. But happened to Calgary while they had a Plymouth site in mid November. But that wasn't official. The city council did hammer the final nail in the coffin of the games bid with the ananymous vote to scuttle it this week. Calgary was the host city of the eighty eight Winter Olympics that worked out, but the venues from those games majority of which are still used by recreational and high performance athletes, three decades later the foundation of the next bid Calgary says the Canadian Press must now come to grips with how to mount is those aging sports facilities. Without the almost two point two billion in provincial and federal taxpayer money tied to Calgary pursuing winning a bid for twenty twenty six the task of bringing the city's major sports visitor facilities into this century on Maas is a mammoth expensive undertaking. Says one official. Of. Group studying the Olympics. Looking at Rio and Beijing if these cities didn't have big. Stadia and arenas before the Olympics. That was probably because there was no economic demand for them. Which doesn't bode well for their future after the Olympics. It's a movement, and we all need one every day. Now buried on thanksgiving weekend, news of the warm won't you? Well, you probably. Either know or don't know, it's a binary choice that thirteen agencies of the United States government colluded in issuing a report on Friday black Friday afternoon Friday afternoon, news, dump except. Probably the dumbest Friday afternoon of the year. Everybody's thinking about shopping to issue a report. Calling the climate situation. Pretty catastrophic pretty dire. And for the first time putting dollar numbers fella. Get your attention dollar numbers on the damage disease. Food crop effects property values in coastal areas. The damage that climate change is already imposing on the United States with much more to come in the future with various scenarios ranging from. Controlling reducing emissions to hey litter. Rip. Couple of highlights from that report. Under the present course of emissions. It is quote. It is very likely that some physical and ecological impacts will be irreversible for thousands of years, while others will be permanent, unquote. How our human supposed to tell the difference between those two. You know? Seven-year pickup is permanent. Are the report written by scientists thirty thirteen federal agencies and extensively peer reviewed. That's like science stuff concludes. The impact of global warming is outpacing previous projections. The president response. We sure are. The levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The main driver of climate change of hit a new record high the UN said Thursday. Well, they were burying it on thanksgiving. This contained a warning that the time to act was running out. So everybody else ahead of the COP climate summit in Poland next month. Poland dobut in officials are again trying to raise the pressure on governments to meet the pledge of limiting warming to less than two degrees celsius enshrined in the twenty fifteen Paris accord. Without rapid cuts and CO two and other greenhouse gases like your methane and your nitrous oxide climate change will have increasingly destructive in irreversible impacts for life on earth. Head of the World Meteorological Organization tatty Tallus said in a statement, but he know the window of opportunity for action. He says is almost closed. Well, then you got open the door in an open letter all states ahead of this big conference in Poland UN rights chief, Michelle Basch ally warned of cataclysmic consequences. If the world is not reverse course, quote, entire nations, ecosystems people's and ways of life could simply cease to exist. She said citing evidence, the nations are not on track to meet the commitments made in Paris light. Who you looking at lady. What? The lucrative. Truffle industry is said to disappear when generation due to climate change. According to new research by university of Stirling England academic a warm and dry climate will be responsible for the decline. Will it will have a huge economic ecological and social impact and could be accelerated by other factors such as heat wave vents? Forced fires pests and diseases. With the truffle species, tuber, Molyneaux sport room. Thank you trying to get more than five hundred eighty bucks. A pound. The industry is worth hundreds of millions estimates adjusted. It could reach five point seven billion over the next twenty years. New study suggests a bleaker future for the sector leader of the study says under the most likely climate change scenario European truffle production would decline between seventy eight and one hundred percent during the last twenty five years of this century, but the decline he says may well occur in advance of this date when other climate change factors are taken into account your heatwaves forest. Fires pests and disease. He continues. We were losing an industry worth hundreds of millions to the economy. However, these socio economic impact of the particularly predicted declined could be substantially larger truffle harvesting and related activities from a key component of local history and cultural activity, cultural activity, go. To the movies. And you study published in nature climate change provides one of the most comprehensive assessments. Get of how humanity is being impacted by the simultaneous occurrence of multiple climate hazards, strengthened by increasing greenhouse gas emissions this according to Eureka alert. This research reveals that society faces a much larger threat from climate change than previous studies have suggested this analysis of thousands of peer reviewed scientific papers. Here is that science again, reveals four hundred sixty seven ways in which human health, food, water economy, infrastructure and security have been impacted by multiple climate changes. Cluding warming drought heatwaves wildfires precipitation, floods storms sea level rise and changes in land, cover and ocean chemistry until now with few exceptions, climate hazards, due to greenhouse gas emissions have been studied individually. However that miss may mask, the impact of other hazards, resulting in incomplete Issaias -ment of. The overall consequences of climate change on humanity. The systematic review of thousands of papers. Details. Four hundred sixty seven ways of how these hazards have already impacted human health, including death. Yeah. That impacts health disease and mental wellbeing food supply from animals plants on land and sea quantity and quality of freshwater infrastructure, including electric city, transportation and lifeline services such as water and sewage lines and economic losses including property damage and reduced labor productivity while triggering multiple cases of migration and violence. Supporting papers are listed it impacts of climate, change dot info. We predicted by twenty one hundred the number of hazards occurring concurrently would increase making it even more difficult for people to cope Cording to the lead author nature climate change buried that during thanksgiving week, and as the ant here's a little bit of good news. Good news for the air. Bad news for the water as the ant Arctic ice sheet melts litter. Go warming of the atmosphere will be delayed by about half by about a decade, but sea level rise will accelerate. That's according to new research. Schedule publication in nature. Studies the first project how the melting of the Arctic ice sheep will affect future climate current climate models. Do not include the effects of melting ice on the global climate the entire earth will continue to warm. But the atmosphere will warm more slowly because more of the heat will be trapped in the ocean says the author warming won't be as bad as fast as we thought, but sea level rise will be worse. They got you come into going news, the warm copyrighted, featuring this broadcast now how are things going in America's longest war, well, Afghan opium producers were hit hard by the worst drought in living memory this year. Hey, score one for climate change and excessive supply with output and prices falling sharply as the area under poppy cultivation shrank. According to an annual survey that came out this week quoted by algebra false. Push in sharp contrast to a bumper 2017 pull up to two thousand seventeen the value of opium key source of funding for the Taliban as it left, poppy growing farms fell fifty six percent. To the UN office on drugs and crime potential opium production from this year's harvest dropped. Twenty nine percent to sixty four hundred tonnes that kind of reverses a bit last year's eighty seven percent increase cultivations shrank by twenty percent and yields fell. So we're winning. Right. Now before you think about that too much time for me to read the trades for him from advertising age packing. An emotional punch. Biometric research proves the purchase power of branded content. I'll read it for you. Rynd? My people at Turner Broadcasting. So they're pitching their wares to the other advertisers. Eight seconds. That's the average time spent on digital content. These days at a time. When the biggest challenge facing marketers isn't getting their message out. It's making a real human connection brands need people brands need to give people what they care about. And quick. Assuming we still have your attention. We're confident, you know, how branded content works storytelling is a way for brands to connect with people through content that entertains resonates is well documented. But what about why marketers need branded content? Today's media mix. What role is quality storytelling play and moving brands down the purchase funnel, well lifting shampoo off the shelf is important. We're also thinking about how brands can form a relationship with people and earn. Brand. Technological strides data science and machine learning have enabled publishers and marketers to understand how content emotionally connects at scale within a matter of days without spending. A fortune canal understand how creative resonates with the sub conscious of consumers that's going to Cal. Founder and CEO of real is was exciting is technology. Like, this allows us to truly understand. How branded content is emotionally connecting with consumers. Narron Levin of spark foundry. It's almost impossible to measure love between two humans and up till now research, measuring the emotional impact of branded content has been limited surveys have shown up people think they feel our industry has like the emotion based data prove the why. Turner ignite. Turner's? Add innovation engine parted with the tech flat platform realize to measure how people feel about branded content. Relative to judicial thirty second ads. Using webcams computer vision and machine learning realize analyze the ninety percent of decision making that happens when people don't even realize they're making choices a space marketers need plan to drive out gums realize analyze the second by second emotional responses of forty eight hundred people watching branded content produced by Turner across. It's entertainment news and sports properties and forty two hundred watching more traditional ads. Things we learned branded content makes people happy viewers of branded content where sixty two percent more likely to show a positive reaction compared with those who watch thirty second ads. And because branded content typically tells a strong story emotional engagement actually increased by thirty one percent during the viewing experience emotional response while watching traditional commercials stayed flat. Also, happy people. Remember, your brand over sixty seven percent of participants thought branded content was more entertaining more relevant and more likely to make them. Think of the advertise brand at time of purchase. Happy people who remember your brand will purchase your products responded to watch branded content showed a significant increase in preference toward the featured brand and rated the brand fifty seven percent more favorably than the control group when asked about intent to Burgess those viewed branded content were seventy percent more likely to say they were very likely by the brand being advertised. While this research provides a new window into how people really feel about branded content. It's important to remember that not all content is created equal powerful storytelling reflects what people care about deeply. And when marketers work with world class storytellers, they can connect achieve lasting brand loyalty. So for you direct your next movie. We know marketers benefit from partnering storytellers associated with loyal fans. Not only does this associated create higher engagement, but it develops brand. We now have reasonable biometric data to put hard numbers behind the emotional impact of branded content and all those feelings translate to lasting connections and real sales results with the right content partner. It may be easier than you think. Outpaced digital attention. And her brand. Brand cows went out content. Random thought that occurs to me. When I read the trades for you. Hey, what's up guys, Cody? Ouch scoop. This is this week's edition of said and done. Sheep yours weekly podcast about the arts, New York. There's no are to your police in right here at CPR's central pod for today show. Couple of topics. Couple of guests should all up to a couple of hours. Good listening. Not really. So let's get to it. We all love movies based on cartoon characters from the comics or wherever right? So scoop promote scoop, there's a new cartoon character about to make his big screen debut and said and done to host Meredith, and I don't even know what that means. I resist can as our story. Thanks county. It means I don't have to read the interest anymore. Word Millie makers. They're always looking for I Kana characters to build what they call franchises films that can generate multiple sequels with hopefully ever-increasing box office. Well, it turns out that one cartoon I can has been hiding in plain sight for half a century specifically inner near our forests in our guest today has found him Jason Mason is headed production at recognizable features Jason who's pitching. Your new tentpole movie, folks. I'd say if I say only you can prevent forest fires. What do you think of initially? I think if forest fires, and then you think of a certain bear smokey right strikes me as I think of it is rather ironic. Name for firefighting bay IRA. Here's the point smoke is benef- Amelia part of American folk law freaking Evan. And now he's about the star in his first full length adventure comedy drama, or as we call it an ad call, mama. Let's exciting. I guess you think are millions of smokey fans fullest, and we followed this creature through a lot of evolution in his charisma. You know, when he started out he was smokey the right with the hat, and and the thing. Yeah. He's been begging high skate than for a while. He turned cuddly. I personally think was like big time creative F up. And most recently, he's become who I think he always wanted to be smoky bay. No, the he's not the bad Bayer's around on the cartoons. Geist? What I call the car. Geist matter of fact, it was the Paddington bad thing that the started my brainstorm thinking, you know, he's not even an American bear. I don't even think they have bears in Britain voles moles and badges they wish they add bears. So I'm thinking the market has more than ready for an all American back and not those worc- cameras. You know, a real heat. With for heroes. These days we are thought that theaters were complicated hero ease against fire. And the story not really because of course, he has a journey Don to take he wasn't always against fi interesting. You'd asked that it was in the press. He got the name smokey. Anyway, he liked camels. He was born and grew up Raja. I'm not giving the whole story away. Like many firefighters. He had a sacred weakness. He liked setting fires one day, and you can figure out the rest and ever since the girls by a rescued him. He's been smoking Americans. Love redemption story, smokey's got a right one. Okay. Well, I think we're all clear on the concept not really creative mixture of live action and animation. So you never know you never really do. And casting y girlfriend bear is up for grabs. And I don't mean that in any. Metoo smokey with talking right now with snoop Dogg's people. So an urban there that sort of leap. Hey, if he can go for murder suspect, the lovable game show hosts semi animated, BA should be as sense dog playing ban. Now, you're thinking like a producer. Oh, that's so nice. And Finally, I assume the project has a name working title smokey's. Most famous two words forest. Fires. That's what he's always emphasizing points. The camera. He says it slowly like his hawk. So it's only natural. The film is called smokey bear only may Jason Mason. When can we see smokey's big-screen debut? Aride light to say by next Christmas. So I'm saying, thanks. Jason cody. Some America's dude. Facebook is after them YouTube is after the intelligence world has after the who's they? Well, hey, they're bad actors in our guest here in central Bod thinks demonizing hard-working bunch of people. He's Keith steel national president of the bad Actors Guild. So what's up Keith? You're right. Cody Facebook says they're targeting bad actors all over the world just to take one example, of course, Instagram WhatsApp YouTube is you said now that's putting a target on the backs of thousands of hardworking Americans. How do you think that makes them feel? Well, it would say like sales associates in the big box store. But I'm guessing that's bogus premium thespians form, a major part of our entertainment ecosystem for a very good reason. There just aren't enough premium quality performers to fill the available jobs. Take me, for example. I'm Sammy the owner. Happy mattress salesman TV spots in Phoenix and Scottsdale. Urine happy because you're not Anneli Siamese unhappy because not enough people. No, I under so anybody. That's good. But not great. And that's the point the fine mattress people in Arizona don't have the budget for great. And it's folks like me are thousands of members in the bad Actors Guild who make those wheels of commerce, turn not mentioned summer theater. No, I'm cool with that. But maybe Keith your like picking all these comments, literally, maybe they're just using bad actors of figure speech like a half, a metaphor. You know for hear them saying they're going after bad, accountants or bad plumbers. You they have stronger unions. I just think actors make a convenient whipping boy, maybe so, but what does that? Oh, right. So you're saying to the Facebooks and what's apps is of the world. We bad actors are strong. We are United hashtag bad actors are good reading that. Just the way I talk case steel piece vibes to you Franks. Well clock is a bitch. We gotta shuffle next. I'm more about the arts and the artsy here on set and done today, by grant from the Flannery foundation winery will get you everywhere. This is. VR only radio for the rest of. This is the show. And now let gentlemen, the apologies of the week. Kokomo high school in Kokomo, Indiana, coincidentally enough issued an apology and social media this week after group of students attending the rival game between Kokomo and western Howard, high schools, displayed unsportsmanlike conduct in the stand in the form of assign vulgar language was spelled up by group of kids in the student section of the stands it caught the attention of a graduate. There was stands. It didn't take long for the officials in the sheriff's to be heading over there in that direction. He said and having that down quickly Kokomo schools issued an apology for what happened. We're sincerely sorry for the actions of our student section this evening. This does not reflect the sportsmanship of Kokomo high-school memory of that sign will hopefully fade quickly in the students. Who thought it was a good idea will reexamine that thought process spoken like an educator a team of elite Canadian curlers you heard what I said, including a twenty fourteen Olympic champions thrown out of a world curling terminent tournament last week for unsportsmanlike behaviour after a drunken belligerent and disruptive display a hockey game broke out a curling. Yes, they were here to party said the manager of the red deer curling center, host of the Albert bone spiel, and they went out to curl, and it went sideways. There was swearing disturbing. Other teams on the ice during the curling classic. Then there were smashed brooms by one of the curlers. They've sent apologized and offered to pay for a hole in the locker room wall. They'll mess with curlers when they're drunk Justin Vogel says he doesn't think the thanksgiving themed advertisement for his col- Colorado pizza shop is racist. But he understands the controversy. It's definitely not correct. He told the Denver post of his sign. It's basically making light of genocide its course and inappropriate the ad was for right coast pizza. He owns it in Greeley picture of a pilgrim saying sorry about all the smallpox about a slice of pepperoni as she hands a pizza to a native American wearing a traditional headdress. It is of course, estimated about ninety percent of native Americans died from exposure diseases like smallpox pilgrim's brought over evidence. European colonizers purposely gave native Americans in blankets contaminated with smallpox in tempt kill through. But we now call biological warfare. The controversial ad was published in bandwagon magazine and arts and entertainment publication in northern Colorado. The Latino foundation of the Iraq all a very public racist ad. The publisher of the magazine said we extend apologies to everyone who seen this insensitive and ignorant ad. The magazine is hurt his readers your voices are valid about the magazine in our clients regret ever pin printing the advertisement. And on right. Coast pizzas Facebook page, the company wrote that we try to keep our ads edgy. And by no means that we tend to offend anyone. We're taking steps to remove any copies. We can. We hope you'll understand that. With some honest mistake, and we're truly sorry to the native American community and anyone else that may have been offended. Felt offended Fox News as an apology to its viewers and Hillary Clinton after a guest on the channel compared the former secretary of state to herpes during Thanksgiving Day broadcast. They buried it on thanksgiving. Turning-point USA's director Spanish engagement on up Paolina made maiden appearance to discuss Clinton's Email scandal still again with political analyst Doug Schoen after the host Rick Leventhal mentioned Clinton's consistent appearance in the media Paolina said she won't go away. She's like herpes. Limit doll quickly ended her parents visibly taken back taken aback by comment. Okay. That's news that we are breaking here, not appropriate. He said she was taken off the screen as the segment continued on without her Leventhal later made an apology to viewers over the language used. We're going to wrap this segment a little bit early because of the language. It was used in the segment we apologize to our viewers for that. Fox News anchor are fell Neville. Also apologize for the incident. Quote, we're all Americans, and that is the focus we want to reiterate, we do not condone the language that Anna Paolina just displayed here, and we apologize to secretary Clinton for that. Quote. Our fell Neville on. Fox News, Boston Celtics point guard. Kyrie Irving has addressed the profanity. He used in his reason remarks about thanksgiving, quote, I spoke with frustration after last night's game. It spoke words that shouldn't be in a professional setting. No matter what he tweeted thanksgiving morning met. No difference disrespect to the holiday and those. Who celebrate respectfully? I'm grateful for the time. We all can share from our families. We are always one. Upon being wished to happy thanksgiving following the Celtics Knicks game Wednesday night. He said f thanksgiving F that F F that s. Guess they lost to the Knicks. No his distaste for thanksgiving stems from his native American heritage, which he recently reconnected with after being welcomed into his late mother standing rock Sioux tribe in August. He donned an eagle feather gifted from his tribe in his hair for Boston's season opener against the seventy Sixers. I guess to President Trump. He would be Mr. Pocahontas dayline Lisbon, Ohio, the Colombiana county. Republican party chairman has apologized after coming under criticism from Democrats for Facebook post, saying the California wildfires were quote God's punishment to liberal California to earlier is human. I confess to earning in my recent post regarding the tragic wolf wildfires in California. My intent was not to show any disrespect to the innocent lives have been lost these fires. But rather to point out the policies that have largely contributed to the fires said, David Johnson. In a statement issued after the firestorm that resulted. Look, it was an inartful artful expression for that. I regret it. Sincerely. I certainly didn't attend to fend or hurt. The feelings of anybody whose lives have been affected by this. And if I did that I'm certainly sorry. He told a local TV station. James corden, pay say head fund manager has been who reportedly managed about one hundred fifty million dollars for nearly three hundred clients. He also wrote a book a couple years ago called the complete guide to option selling. Now, he's uploaded a video to YouTube in which he apologized for losing. Everybody's money. What did the money go sitting in a Brown chair against a black backdrop hands folded together showing off his cufflinks, and is apparently expensive Rolex Corday emotionally said he was sorry needless to say the events of the past week have been incredibly devastating for our clients. He said who had a tough time keeping his composure when discussing the people who put their financial trust in him. So many of you chose to entrust announced the -bility to navigate in the world of investing. I always talked about steering your investment like a boat. I remember so many times saying that if you're steering the wheel, and you're making small turns that's good. If you're making large turns that's probably not what you want to see on, quote, he made a big time. He explained volatility oil and gas natural gas markets created a rogue wave. I was unable to navigate and that this rogue wave capsized our boat, unquote. He apologize to one couple in Michigan because he never got to go bass fishing with them expressed regret to another client because it looked like a trip to the French Riviera would probably be postponed and said he was sorry to an Australian couple because he would likely not be watching any Gold Coast. Sunsets. With them in the near future. Hedge funds are supposed to head against the big waves. I thought, but that's just me the Italian luxury brand Dolchai and Gabon apologized this week for racist. Tinged insults touched off growing boycott and China, all and left. The company struggling to return its products to store shelves and e commerce sites. It's unclear whether the contrition will be enough to stem, the punishment backlash some stores were temporarily shut Chinese students in Italy held a small protest in front of the flagship store Milan. What happened? Well, they stage a big fashion show. And it was. Featuring. Hundred models fifteen hundred deaths againsts and it featured a puerile video. According to Washington Post, featuring a Chinese model struggling to eat spaghetti and a large based with chopsticks after it was widely criticized in China as insulting and a well-known fashion blogger leaked an Instagram conversation with Domon in which the designer fumed about the criticism referred to China using several PU emoji, and then blurted out China ignorant, dirty smelling, mafia unquote, later claimed he was hacked. Models staff and celebrity guests bailed hours before the fashion show. Numerous ecommerce sites, remove the brand's products. So they have apologized as a dull chain Coban, although not for being hacked odd that. Sarah, Michelle, Gellar used a sexy photo shoot post about overeating during thanksgiving. She shared from some photos from professional shoot in which she was scantily clad to make a joke out of about her love of holiday indulging that didn't go over well with folks who expressed their disappointment and the comments. Some even accused the actress of fat shaming. She said, quote, I love thanksgiving. Unfortunately, my eyes are often bigger than my stomach, and I tend to eat so much make myself sick. This was joking reminder to myself not to do that. She apologized for the misunderstanding. I'm terribly sorry. People were offended by my attempt at humor. Anyone knows me knows? I would never intentionally. Shame anyone on any basis. I am a champion of all people. Thanks, sarah. Thanks for the support dayline Louisville. The Saint Matthews Texas roadhouse where Louisville mother was told a cover up. All she was breastfeeding has issued an apology after meeting with nursing mothers this week. That doesn't happen often. The man who shouted Heil Hitler Trump at a Baltimore performance a fiddler on the roof. Apologize this week for his outburst saying he chose the wrong words when he was attempting to compare President Trump to the Nazi leader, President Trump took it personally as far as. I like to take everything personally because you better that way, and the Roman Catholic archbishop of Birmingham that would be Birmingham Birmingham. Birmingham mainland has apologized to survivors of abuse in the diocese at an independent inquiry into child sexual abuse. Britain's having one now Australia had one when tars archbishop Longley appeared before the inquiry this week on the final day, but three day hearing focusing on the allegations by the church in Birmingham during the past three decades. He told the inquiry. I apologize to those survivors and victims of abuse for what they've suffered within the archdiocese over the years. I Pol them I would certainly wish to seek some way of lifting the burden. I know that apologies may feel as if they've come to late and are inadequate. I accept that. But I am sorry hig knowledge. There was still room for a lot of improvement in the diocese. But he said he'd learned for meetings in which survivors told him of the trauma that experienced trauma. I hid no. The inquiry focused on the response by the diocese of to allegations of abuse by four priests including the now, dead father, John Tolkien, the son of the author. The hearing was told at the church knew the token posed a risk to after a note was made in nineteen sixty eight of an allegation that it told boy scouts stripped naked yet he was allowed to continue to work as a priest in Birmingham for decades. Once told the inquiry. He'd been told pray with his trousers down by Tolkien and afterwards was told by the priest to keep what happened a secret he repeatedly and consistently denied the allegations against him. He now dead the apologies of the week. Ladies and gentlemen, it copyrighted feature. This broadcast now quickly some one item of news of the atom Toshiba, the troubled Japanese, electrical and electronic conglomerate former owner, the bankrupt Westinghouse see companies can go bankrupt decided last week to cancel its nuclear project in the UK. If completed this station would have provided about seven percent of Britain's electricity needs announcement wasn't really a surprise corn to oil price dot com. So she businessman followed word of a breakdown in negotiations with perspective, buyer, Korea Electric, Power the Koreans are rethinking their commitment to nuclear energy, worldwide Toshiba. May well have had trouble financing. The project of this magnitude, especially given the stress on its finances from its trouble venture into American nuclear construction, down Carolina way, this was going to cost five hundred twelve million. Toshiba announced its decision as quote economically rational. The government spokesman said all proposed nuclear projects in the UK are led by private sector developers. This is an tireless a commercial decision for Chiba while price points out the only nucle- nuclear construction project currently underway in the UK is owned by French and Chinese utilities entities. That are controlled by their state governments and it's financed with liberal debt guarantees provided by the UK government, welfare queens in the boardroom one more time. Now, it's couple personal things. You've seen the digital billboards. Helicopters, the sky riders. The endless endless coverage. So, you know by now, this is the last. Show of of this year, which is the thirty fifth year of the shows existence next year next week thirty fifth anniversary villa show starting year thirty six and I think I mentioned going to try to look back at some of the stuff on this show during those years at least one of the next few weeks in December. 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LWW 44: Our Favorite Festive Books and Films

Lesbians Who Write Podcast

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LWW 44: Our Favorite Festive Books and Films

"Welcome see lesbians as you write with Claire Liden and TB mortensen conversations about writing and lesbian fiction join us as we drove back the curtain on the writer's life. Hello and welcome to episode. Save forty four of lesbians you right. And this week we're going to be talking about all favourite festive books and films joining me. Claire Lydon is my co host the Christmas grinch TB Malkin San Hell ATP. Today I am the Christmas great. Actually I don't know if he could see my teacher. Peter Recording the What is it angry cat decorated as a Christmas tree and he looked really groping at me? Looks like a they very much a you kind of patient. Yes I don't have loyalty and there's a there's an uncompromising wrapped up in there somewhere unless he he can unwrap it. Pull pull the ribbon of. You're pretty often. And you got your grumpy Cap Teasha on say we already need to be Christmas Green Tonight and obviously I'm going to be the Christmas fairy until the tree remember. We talked about last week. Here the lightness darkness. Bring it Nice Iceberg. Saying give me a dauntless for the week TV Oh this week Oh my God I don't make I got so Remember last week when we talked in the middle of a mental mental breakdown about my lizzy novel do that Yes. Well it's been what almost a full week since we talked and I actually listen into you which is going to be shocking news. Because I usually don't listen to you but you told me I should be kind to myself and that I was not not handling the ending the getting over the finish line with Lizzie very well. Because I was stressed. And it wasn't ready and so I did. I pulled back. Change my editing date from The final edit to just another round before you can get to the final product until I was able to Nagel an extra five days on the editing deadline insulin. The new deadline is Friday so the next forty eight hours is gonNA really suck. I can almost feel like the week coming off my shoulders knowing that it wasn't the final product that I had to complete over the weekend and so I think it's coming together more. I mean it's still not there but I think it's coming together more in. It's been more enjoyable to write again. which is always a plus for writer because I think it shows for the readers if you like if it was just like a grinding product or if he actually enjoyed it but I mean obviously I had to change inch by publication date? I was hoping to push early. Twenty twenty but I had to address that by think in the long run. I like to play the long run more than the short run. I think it'll be better thing. So Oh thank you for that advice in for even after we stopped recording last week you still stayed on the line with me. Try to convince me even more changes editing deadline. So I did in. I think it's going to be for the best so thank you very much. You'll welcome and Yes I was that putting. TB back from the cliff fetch. What would it be? Take my hand take my and we we can do. It together is very easy. Sometimes when you're in this this joke to get caught up in what ye think that everyone wants today your readers and what you think you should do and you've committed to the deadline. I but you always have to remind yourself. I'm guilty of it too. But that's why I'm counting on you to discern from me up when the time comes but you remind yourself that now in actually. CK's no one cares when you publish your book apart from year. And you have control of that and so if it's not going to it's going to affect the quality in the book or if you're not happy with the book just change. The deadline is not the end of the world. If that's true in my other freak out last week was with by H. L.. megacell because I had to format Sale which is always massive project. I I put in a Lotta hours so if I sound a little loopy it because I haven't been sleeping much much but I only have like two more days of pain in can relax for a couple of days but I am almost two-thirds Donald Sale. I am I plan to be at this point on Thursday. Hey that's tomorrow. We're recording this on Wednesday ahead of until I'm getting there defiant. This year is almost over a camp fucking way EH. A twenty nine thousand nine but the you're you're helping out both is doing the I.. Agenda but you'll giving the breeders at brilliant and to be presence fully and I can tell by the way you roping you Christmas grinch alleys. They is a lovely say a yet. I'm sure I speak on behalf with lots of other lives when I say I read it when I say thank you and welcome. Thank you very much and then one final thing I have to say about my week in. We'll find out what's been going on in your world or have been having a lot of fun obviously since. I've had these two massive things but I did go for my massage on Saturday. I've been going regularly. Did I've been having problems with my left shoulder. And I almost considered cancelling lean but then I decided that would be a terrible move because I was going to spending long hours at the computer that I really needed to go. Mike Therapy session and It's getting better. I can actually kind of move my left shoulder now. UH-HUH I see you're stretching. I'm on your everytime. I mentioned the Mike My Shoulders. You start fussing about yours hypochondriac. Nice these as long as CG. Say That I'm just oh ooh. I'm very mesler Angie verse. Say Well I I think I would want gave a message because they Gemini Hurts. That's and that's probably because I need them but I'm very very shy about game is a quite often comes in here and stops to give me a massage on my shoulders khanum singing. I'm not less nice. And then she finds no and then she says delving into it. And I'll get off. Get off stop. It say. I'm not very good but I I should. Yeah you should because I will agree with you. They do hurt. I was leaving from a massage cabinets. Massage I'm like do you uh even though when I'm in for sixty minutes a sheer pain pretty much but it does feel better like the next day like during the process unlike out how Jesus just leave a not alone. That's fine. It's been living there for a while even the love. But then I'm like oh I can move my. This is brilliant. It moving you. It's is not underrated behind me. I don't think people realize well. I guess a lot of people people who work on computers. These days is becoming kind oral but the hundred older laptop is were not made to do that all right so now. Have you heard about my misery in the massage. What's been going on your side of the pond? Do you want me to bring you into the night into the night on the dock. The light I think the listeners would like little lake. This this holiday season it is the T- tastes the season. TB Jolie and say this week. I've finally finished the first draft minute. Oval on yeah. It is pretty much done. I just have to write the epilogue say am. I've decided I'm going to write that once I gave three. And no it because you basically this first draft is eight thousand was quite long For me and mine. Anoma around the seventy K.. But uh night if that's what it needs to be. That's what needs to be. I'm sure though I will cut some words and write some new ones own. The way at the second is the first draft is. He's done and I know that there are things in the beginning. It's financially I go up to the end and I go up to the scripts I only end up epilogue in a folder FOTA and I clicked on it. And there's a thousand words in the book as I I've heard the F. local ready I'd have the look and I've kind of started is in the epilogue okay and What happens to characters in there doesn't happen to them anymore? So I think I read the AP Leblanc really really. And then I change the plot slightly say The epilogue is going to be scrapped and rewritten. So I don't know what I'm going to find when I came back to start writing at to stop Gagarin in the second ed I I think they'll be bits of the first plot in there that needs to come out of luck changed about forty thousand so did came back and fixed it. But then I hadn't say Kenny. Maybe we'll find out. I have two questions you don't remember writing epilogue at all nine. I did not know that was liver In it if I remember correctly you had head of the plot idea in the beginning you changed it in any went back to kind of their original pop. So it's just like the third iteration than night because thing I had originally plop then by the time I started writing it by the time I got to the bad which is wasn't very far in than I change the plot and then I lost the plot. Yeah it was. It was a JAG begging to be made but the the key thing about this as as they I've written eight thousand would so that's good whether they wake sense nearby very doubtful and I think that I can see this need to be made better but you know the story is down. It's told And that's just the me and then the second draft is heavy build on out the kinks. But I finished it yesterday today. I am at about midday ish some giving myself. I gave us up yesterday often. Not Giving did my tax retention stacks Tree Party wanted treat yesterday as Iraq five thousand words and then Metaxas you ten. But that's Done that I've done my coporate. One M myself employment employment one say T- tax return two weeks gay and and I'm giving myself today. Yesterday I stopped then today. I done My other focused this morning. And I'm doing this because of She gives me myself tomorrow off getting out for a so. This is where my fun things this week is my wife and I going out to do a Christmas Day in London which we which we like to do every say I've booked tickets to go to a gingerbread architectural exhibition. Say architects coming. Bill City made gingerbread. Doesn't that sound brilliant. Brilliant over of kind of baffled by this Are you gonNA take photos. I took takes a phase. I will be curious to see like if I don't like. gingerbread houses are like really popular this time. You're never ever done on the grinch we know this okay so but I. I'm curious like are they going to be like multiple levels are like are they. Lake take like like literally Empire State Building gingerbread houses. I mean we should get architects ball. They imagined is kind of hard to rein them in. Yeah no I think that it's the whole city. There's is apartment blocks in a hospital in town Hawaiian streets and cause and yeah. It looks amazing from the from the fatal say I'm looking forward to gain say is at Somerset House. which is a lovely old very majestic? Was it like a state. I'm kind of thing is where they had. They had the ice skating rink there now. A columnist escaped acre. My life say I'm not going to be doing that by. I like to look ice skating. Rinks they look pretty good name in this weather. We winning Greenwich this. Yes that's nice and then we'll get an NDA festive market and the Golkar slice and then gave it probably a guy for Nice London noise and have a couple of drinks say. I'm giving myself Beta and Moscow tuna days break from the from the manuscript treating it like it's a whole holiday but it's really like a we get in two zero two and a half days. Yeah that's my. That's my Christmas right there and and then on Friday is is back to it and I might. My sister knows on facebook when I announced I finished my job. She's now you can relax for Christmas now. I know I know I can't go. unedited the deadline mid January. So I'll go get back with the the second so this Ozo- NC last Christmas at the movies which was bringing. It's been absolutely upset. He patterned in the press. All the critics have sent his terrible. I really enjoyed it last. Christmas aid is in new new Christmas movie and is written by Thompson and starring Emma Thompson and gulped. Emily o'clock in she's the lead. She was in game of thrones and who that Fella Latte the blake from crazy rich Asians DC crazy which Asians the lead in. That is the lead in this. His name Amy's Henry Anyway I thought it was brilliant is not. It's not your traditional Christmas movie but it's quite it's it will make you cry. A little bit homing and is gold songs from WAM and George Michael. There you go. We discussed last week. That's like that your perfect ideal. I mean W- in Christmas. Yeah wham Bam on that even keep the joke may say we asked me to care about favorite Christmas films. I think that that's GonNa be my listener because I really did enjoy it was it was good. It wasn't why expected until I went with low expectations and it's going to be cheesy and it wasn't that easy and I it was actually has some says you'll issues and and it kind of a different plot line as well Emma Thompson. Actually she she wrote it. You said he yet. She writes it and now she's direct today but she stays the mother of the lead in it as well as that she written others before. I really admire her. As an actress on surprised you know that that say she has identified about. It is kind of in the same tradition of as Richard Curtis movies but it's not as traditionally astray romance is nicer but what it does have. Is Christmas dismissed by the bucket laid and it will say has London by the bucket load if they could have done any more shops of London at Christmas I caught them like they come at every edlund but it was very which occurred his movies? All based on people live in Notting Hill Kensington Chelsea ovation very posh Josh. Whereas this one was based on people bill people? He live in light. Bill and Southland and East London and nobody was very portion. Everybody had AH great job and save is more realistic and would end with so they It's been Christmas a week. And it's GonNa get more Christmasy. We always say hasty dinner party. A eight people We we always have gang Christmas at our house just flew Christmas off friends. People still have dinner parties. We do. We have dinner parties. Tell him really. I know they really pop like bridget. Jones's diarrheas wasn't although like dinner parties. I haven't done a dinner party with. I haven't been uninvited. Maybe just maybe it's because the grinch I don't get it all right say this big this week's coming comments comments honey okay so so We have one comment today in. I apologize if I mr comment. I've been drowning in deadlines so I got a email from Alicia to my author. Email inch The podcast cracks up Alicia. But at least you had a question that when we talked about when I was in Ireland I said I could not not publish while I was in Ireland in only. She didn't understand that because she'd done. I think a writing seminar something there in yes I could rate is much. They wanted to in Ireland. But I did not receive a work permit so when you publish something that means you were working. Gene in our immigration lawyers. Were pretty honest about saints. The likelihood of me getting caught publishing while living in Ireland was low but the punishment would be high if I was caught especially since I was a dependent on my partner in my partners owners company have moved us to Ireland. So we made the decision that It wasn't a risk we are worth taking because it would threaten not only my job but her job so that is why I did not publish tonight. I've never I've just nodded when he said show. Okay she didn't want to publish. Let's get onto the big question of the week. which is what are your favorite festive books and movies essay? Tb What do you want to give full. I she would books for since we are a bookish cash bookish kind of podcast okay no did you want me to focus on my favorite Leszek festive books. Yes all right. Well you consciously allow a Christmas Carol going all right. My my first book on my list is GonNa make you cringe irradiated. Cringe you ready to go. Read your go get all British embarrassed yet goal while in Dublin. I was reading a a lot more lesbian fiction. My my Christmas in Ireland. I got really sick. I got the flu until I spent several days on the couch reading books in and I came across all I want for Christmas. By somebody named Clair Lighten Dino. Her nine she's okay so so I read that book and I found it absolutely hilarious. You have the best like dating bathroom scene. which most people I'll be honest told include in Romance? I don't know if you remember this but after I finished that book and after I recovered from the flu I really don't email. It was my very first email to you. Now you've talked talked about this before and as we know my memories terrible say I don't remember what did yesterday say nowadays. Remember back it actually read. It was my reply very careful. You're very friendly in a way. That's what that's how we started emailing each other back and forth the threat and we like emailed lake ten times on that. No that's pretty much the start of this podcast home. Line God onto the if I never have written willow Christmas we this would never be in and think about what did he say an email. By the way I just said I commented on I complimented you on the bathroom sinks. I just found that fucking. It goes into the bathroom with this falls asleep. I mean I've been pretty tired these past couple of days what. I've never fallen asleep on the toilet. Well Yeah and I think I've said before that was that thanks entry story. That happened to my friend. He actually did this on a date so I still. Have you ever known a woman the fall asleep on the toilet. I'm I publish that book. And you wouldn't believe they might be like that said that's happened to me people. This is like a thing. You sleep on toilet. Yeah it is. Have you ever wanted to sleep when manacles iphone asleep in benched emily. I'm very dull. Not GonNa come on your bed life. Okay moving on so my next favorite Holiday book is By my co author of Random cloud she wrote home for the holidays which which is vaguely based on the holiday film. Have you seen that one and it gets now that I said I can't remember anything about it. It just totally my head. When is when is one of my very favorite Christmas may be so nice. Yes Cameron and Kate was like there. You go that's The funny thing is I kept thinking Jack. Black Not Cameron Diaz Okay Wednesday night terrible lesbians falsely listen the only member check wack so this is like a housewife in a new American musician. Moves to your and she falls for sister college owner in In this one there was like another hilarious team. So if you want to Send Me Holiday said. I really prefer the really really funny ones which is weird because my books are very angsty and everything that I write but when I read I I prefer the wrong calms but there is a scene in this. Were the main lead like ends up hanging outside of the cottage window like totally naked and of course. That's when the vicar shows up when she's like this enter birthday suit so this is kind of funny scene. I knew then I would. I would probably get along with Miranda and Lo and behold we have become friends and we've written a book together so the two holiday books I read or listen to Listen the Miranda. I ended up co writing with them. Are we GONNA do a call right now. So maybe that's a connection with Christmas. Chris looks and you also. They did a Christmas Kiro as well gone. I know I can see this. Turn for this festive topic. But is it is taking his turn in the Greek as a huge connection the Christmas. Yes you see who is have been Christmas book. Something they have been and they've also done really well so have you noticed him out of Less vic festive books that have been published in the past two weeks. Oh my gosh is is a lot more like I remember two years ago. There wasn't that much in on this year is really exploded so in the since I knew this episode was coming up in. You told me that did I should read another one in an. You didn't do it. Miss Christmas I downloaded the audiobook or Tinsel by Chris Rain in it's a I think it was two and a half hour. Listen so it was a novella but it was a really cute book. It was really cute. So it Kinda take all the boxes for acute less fake a romance. It had the break-up right before Christmas. So you know obviously no one wants to be alone for Christmas. It's like the Link claim to break up had hi to really cute kitten who adopts poor woman who gets dumped like the night she gets dumped this kitten adopts her in it of course she has to take the kitten to the vet and of course the the vet is like a hot chick. I mean this has never happened to me in real life. I gone too many beds and it's never been object but you know I can still dream and then of course it starts off rocky with One of them. It's a bit testy all the time to the other so it's like kind of. She's very frosty. which kind of makes sense for holiday so the book has heartbreak Cute Kitten hot sex in cuteness at the end? Doesn't it take like every box for a holiday romance destroyed the cute kitten and we're all like Yep got it so no it wasn't really good. I think it was the first book Listen to you by Kris Bryant. So a Electri- humor and I will be listening to more for books. So what are your favorite list Vic holiday books well I now I said I was going to read anyone but then time. Just go away from me and Yes but the one new one I have read throwing trying to right back at. Ya is wholly an Ivy buy one TV markets in and Miranda McLeod and. I'm not quite finished yet. So I'm unpolished. Rating it. The I'm ready Akeem folding. I'm not saying you're sending me to sleep. I know only read sleep by. Just keep holding sleep put that I have a binder pig with the on this one it. Okay I'm enjoying the book. Don't get me wrong the whereas the Christmas Bevan that's is. My point is meant to be a Christmas book. Right is a holiday book again as Thanksgiving right is a holiday book. The the cup is snag. Laid the mittens on it whereas I won't Christmas and joined the book and I'm waiting aluminum but west Christmas in it be patient. I'm looking forward to a big christmasy ending up with snow falling and lots of kissing under the stars among GonNa gap. There's snow falling stars but there will be snowfall. Thank goodness thank goodness. He's he I I let. Yesterday I was like sixty seven percent three. And then I'll tell you she didn't need to shuffle down the line day to Christmas. When is it going to get there? Be The patient Patient say that's my that's my more recent pick Rachel joying patiently waiting for the holidays. Today's to happen and I think my all time. Favorite less fiqh festive books. They all I've got a he chasing. Bright Ably really by Jerry Hill now. I haven't read that many Joey Hills I must say but I think I've read full which isn't that many as? She's go quite quite a cannon when my saying is she is a massive bet. I see maybe slightly more because I've met a couple of mystery ones where some book toolman woman in a truck drives round solving mysteries. which will it was always good and behind? The Pine Curtain is my favorite Tiso of Jerry Hills. It makes me off Off Every time I think that is actually a great book but I'm just behind. The Pine Kuttan is a very strange. I don't know what it means. It's just like it's about a woman is as yet would make a great Christmas Vitamins because it follows the whole thing of the woman came back into town and sacrificing big city job and then falling in love with an x that. She's to know what will someday she's Madman said that that is the story of maced Houma. Oh Christmas films. Say Jerry should've made this behind the Christmas tree rather than behind the pine cutting but my favorite one of his is A chasing boy to play at is a brilliant brilliant book. And it's about this woman he guys hey for her brother's wedding and she meets his bride's SISTER DISTAL and at wedding and they don't hit. She hit her as she sees ran the ball and they did hit straightway but then they do And it sat in a in a ski resort somewhere in the American mountains. Let's say Colorado identify it's just it's beautifully written and Yeah I I just waiting waiting update. It's very strange. Cover with Mason ascend behalf. But Lena look there. It's a good story the other one I really like is Georgia Biz fresh tracks which is like m. an ensemble piece it's up to couples and T- couples that are Aka of one of them this on the rocks and then teachings and and they will go to a cabin in the woods for that in between Christmas and New Year where everyone's eating too much cheese and no one quite knows who they are. What is that bit? They will go to a cabin in the woods and then as much hilarity and angst and by mounts and sex sexism must yeah. Yeah there's there's one saying where one of them who single and the other one who's single they oziel sharing a room. We teasing beds and one of them has a sex dream and she wakes up and the other one's looking at her like wants to do the Saxon cheese realizing that she's having extreme from the noises and she says they want is having this xtreme turns Iran and she says. Can you finish meal and she does a little bit. You say wants to make take your online so yes Diana I love that in that book and this is really pretty good book and the Oakland I really like is the retreat by Jane Rep Zag and that is about a woman. He has been having an fat with the best friend. He's married to a man. She having a family of eight years and the fat comes out on Christmas Eve and and the to the woman. Who's been having Ed married woman? She's best friends with married women but was a web best friends and works with husband and says about the fallout from the affair. And and then we'll joined to work out what to do and there's a lot of angst and a lot of soul-searching but it's it's a bit different from the normal less fake romance it will be not strictly away. I would even join it and the whole thing. That being around Christmas and heightened donations and the last thing is Kinda funny so they'll examples I gave we're like more ROM coms and you're like really soft on this one is tree. Say Yeah my books and now she gave gave me these now just before we get into movies. Just new. Say something about the Hmong Channel controversy at an. If you've been following this week actually I was going to ask ask you about that. I wanted to know 'cause you you look forward to the hallmark Christmas movie season from like as soon as an end. Though how do you feel about it should we should. Should we let people. Can you let people know what about in case they haven't been on social media. Yep site whom up is a channel that name does cheesy cheesy Raymond's May these. I think probably Christmas wraps up his it ramps up his game and the it's produced like one hundred new ones or something might be just plucking from there but anyway it has said prior to the controversy that he wants to do more in include more people than just middle falls straight white people in his as may be in which he hasn't done generally up to now. It wants to get a more diverse and cleared UBT Keith. Ninty as well as just just anybody who's not want and I I applaud it saying this however the the reality and the actions match and one million the the they basically had an advert that showed a lesbian wedding ceremony from a company whose Zola. I think that they're they're dating eighteen. Yep One million MOMS complained about it and they took the advert down and said that they were family channel and it doesn't align with that values say that's what's really disappointing. Offset everything they said but they did come. There was a huge uproar on social media and then following that they have come out with a very clear statement saying saying that they all going to work with the community and try made US investment. Really GonNa try and push through an it was an. They actually said they made a mistake. Now now it's really disappointing that it happened in the first place however that they came out and rectified say quickly We'll see Jerry's still out but that they came out and wreck twenty sake lately Is a good sign I think and he got in but you go to join given benefit down however the nextwave will be very telling. I followed it closely. Clean it was. It was sad to see but I wasn't very surprised me. My biggest complaint with the hallmark movies is the fact that every single one pretty much has the high powered Lord woman give up in Lake. Mary like a guy who has a Christmas tree farm in they can struggle the rest of their life. Well I have to say this year there have been a lot more smarter Houma Christmas movies. I agree that In previous years have all been about a woman giving up her dreams on her job to come back and do a Christmas song with some blogging objection but This time round so there is more diversity in the gaumont movies in terms of everybody in the costing is white anymore but it is still go he might go. I will admit that I mean let's face it. Probably Ninety percent believes are still white but the plots of the movies is starting to get more clever and the always the women giving coming up in dreams so I have watched quite a few this year. THY Gwen -joyed but I was gained boy cooked a hallmark. I'm still backed keen on watching team anymore But the good thing is that there's lots of other options apparently the you got lifetime in the. US We don't have that But we do. have things like Netflix Amazon. Though I have Amazon prime but I have Netflix and Netflix. As really good maybe cooled. Let it snow and it's a it's a young adult young adult those of coming up just just going to finish high school and it's quite often these movies all brealey fantastic and I loved love Simon. That was a really good why I me not Christmas one but a great quit. Why I'm eating and this one has got clear representation as this? This one full as about five type. Different couples three Christmas and everybody has a happy ending including two girls to eighteen year. Old Women say and there's less lady lady kissing onscreen TV. Say they're going to kill the Westbank. Neither did not then happy now. Everybody has the playbook. There's a mixed race couple. There's a lesbian couple. I mean it's like net flicks exists in two thousand nine hundred nineteen isn't it and not back in nineteen seventeen like and I'm sure that other great movies on Netflix. I have watched him many of them. I try to watch a night before Christmas. I didn't think that was very good lung. But let us know. I know but my favorite Christmas movies. All the holiday as we sat with Cameron Diaz. Kate winslet is it. You can't go wrong with that. Kenya and Jude Law. He you know as mango is pretty. Don't you isn't it. So those those three plus Jack Black and a brilliant brilliant plot great dialogue lovely Sunny America and Krispy snow. UK was not looked better. I always I love the Christmas Carol because basically put him up in anything. And I'm GONNA love it. I just loved the muppets Alf. You can't get back Christmas. Maybe the now it will give you all all the fields all the Christmas chair. It's just so cleverly done it's brilliant. I don't think John Favorites ever going to do anything. Best as he should just hang up his directing acting now I think he he kind of did in the. He's east of different things don't ever. He's quite interesting character go. He directed But Will Farrell. I'd like even anything else but in L.. He's just brilliant and my final Christmas pick is of course carol because he can't have Christmas without watching Carol. Oh that wishing Cate Blanchett and Rooney Mara look at each other dreamily over the restaurant table in the nineteen fifties with that will should we will we. That's a better come online Olympic. I'll remember that next time. All right. So you Lewis did Elf. which is my all time favorite Christmas movie? I've already chilly three times and I want year round. I Love L. I can't get enough evolve off in every time I like almost no the movie I can dislike. Say the lines as I go but I love that movie it hit every single. Feel you want for Christmas moving and I have to. I agree. It is the high point of his career. I don't know what you can do after that. All right so my it's funny because I'm you chose the muppet Christmas. Carol and my favorite edition of the Christmas Carol is Mickey Mouse. The Mickey's Christmas Carol. The other watch last year that I really load in. I think it encapsulated what it's like to be a writer like perfectly in. It had like a whole Christmas. Feel to it was The man can't who invented Christmas. Did you see that film. I think I recommended white already watched it. You're probably surprised that already watched like a holiday film before before I even told me about it I recommend Tinos yet. I can't remember last year. Yes no I watched it last year. Nothing in Britain. Yes for people who haven't watched it's about Charles Dickens while he is penning the Christmas Carol which let's be on a sunny everyone in the world at least knows the Christmas Carol so but what I loved about this film was I mean. Do you remember the scene. Where are you talking about like all the stuff he has to do? Especially since I've been freaking out about losing stuff I have to do to get lizzy to publication. But like like he's talking about like so I need the right story needs to be illustrated needs to be printed. It all has to be done in six weeks. I could do that. And it's like the mania of author because I think every one US at some point as listed like his written down the to do list of everything and to do and be like yeah. That's totally doable. Totally deals mainly to undo the moment yet three weeks didn't second-row totally doable. Totally do the man. Before Christmas. With the man who invented Christmas I thought it was a brilliant and at needy and it was that scene. I think it was a different scene. is where always characterize which is sitting milking him while he was writing us. I mean it shows like every it like really depicts what is linked to be a writer like it shows like the mania stages where you think you're fucking brilliant and this is going well in initials like the despair stages were like. Oh Oh my God this is GonNa fucking suck that my career is over and it shows like how delusional we as authors actually are in in in the fact that they were able to base it around the Christmas Carol which became such a smash hit in Lake Wood to do three hundred years later. It's still like things where people are still ripping off where their stories in All these different like the muppets Mickey and everything. Like that. And it's amazing story. I do have to say though as a historian. They didn't get all the details right. That's okay that's okay. I think I'm going to try and watch again this year because I really did enjoy it last year and that was a recommendation from my sister. So well done well. I think. That's Oh we booked time full on December. The twenty is Christmas Eve tomorrow. It is inch. We mentioned this last episode that is going to be uploaded did in the calendar year of Twenty nineteen. They will not be episode on. What is it similar thirtieth? 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Giancarlo Esposito: Better Call Saul, Breaking Bad and Do The Right Thing

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

44:34 min | 2 months ago

Giancarlo Esposito: Better Call Saul, Breaking Bad and Do The Right Thing

"The. Bulls eye with Jesse Thorn is a production of maximum fun, Dot Org and is distributed by NPR. Coming to you from my Home Office Bullseye I'm Linda Holmes in for Jesse Thorn. Giancarlo Esposito was born in Copenhagen, the son of an Italian stagehand in an American singer. He and his family moved to New York City. When he was six years old, and before long he took a back thing performing on Broadway at first, then as he grew up movies, he appeared in many of spike. Lee's early films and if you remember him for one roll back then it's probably as bugging out the guy who organizes a boycott of south pizzeria. Do the right thing. He's appeared in dozens of other movies. Movies and TV shows recently, he's gotten a lot of acclaim for playing Gusts Frame Gus first appeared in breaking bad, a mild mannered, but intense owner of a restaurant franchise who moonlights as a massively influential drug kingpin Giancarlo reprises his role in better call Saul, which just wrapped up its fifth season on AMC the role. His earned Giancarlo. Two Emmy nominations, and you're about to hear why this is. An iconic moment from breaking bad gusts has just met Walter White. The protagonist of the show played by Bryan Cranston in the scene is trying to convince Walter to work for him. No matter the cost. Why did you make these decisions? For the good of my family. then. They weren't bad decisions. What does a man do? Walker. A man. Provides for his family. This cost me my family. When you have children, you always have family. They will always be priority your ability. And Man. amand provides. And he doesn't even when he's not appreciated. Or, respected. He simply bears. He does it. because. He's a man. Giancarlo esposito welcome to Bullseye thank you what a pleasure to be here. You know people are going to hear me greet. You and they're gonNA. Think that it's Not Jersey enough I'm not giving you the Giancarlo Esposito. Well we talked about this we did, and you say dave absolutely perfectly and I still hear some Jersey there. It's alright. So we were just hearing. GUS FRING! Gus fring is one of the scariest men. Probably on television. Ever Talk to me a little bit about how you see Gus fring. Well I, loved hearing this particular clip show, because a man provides such a very wonderful speech and I was listening. What was resonating from me, was at that particular time and even now. I feel that way myself, so there were so many parts of gusts in our first episode that I ever did. In, that was written into the stage direction that really inspired me. And Inspires me to this day. I felt as if. This particular. Provides speech was so important to my life, because I have four children, and because a man I realized the value of being hunter gatherer. The storyteller goes into the world to. Bring home. The Bacon to bring home. The stories from the world that teaches his family in illuminates their journey as to where he's been, and how much he loves cares for them that he does whatever it takes Gustavo fring for me as a man who has a very high moral standard and someone who does care about his family of workers in his businesses, the matter what he does, his businesses are are. He is trying to build as if he's building million dollar billion dollar corporation which he is, he just happens to be dealing illicit drugs, and so it was important for me to find a way to play this character. Where he did have some regard for our social norms, and he did have a feeling about community, and he did feel as if people mattered even. Above and beyond some the represent reprehensible things that he's done the people within the show, so I was committed to playing in different kind of quote Unquote Zilin and didn't want to play anything that was stereotypical and in my conversations with Vince Gilligan, after I did one episode is a guest star. Another episode guest starred. He wanted me to consider being part of the show I wanted to tell a different story, and I explained to him that that story of Kusaba Franken. His integrity who he really is was. Was Really Cute. By stage direction, he wrote in the very first episode, and that was hiding in plain sight, and when I think about the number of people who hide even from themselves, but who are hiding from their neighbors in their communities, doing illicit things, but they looked to be stand up human beings. You find out that they are. Aren't that was intriguing to me and I wanted to create a character built on some of those building blocks, and you played a Gustavo Frank on breaking bad for several years, and then came over to have come over to play him again on better call Saul, which takes place a number of years before the events of. Of Breaking Bad. Is it when you take a character who you've already built and you've constructed? Is it a different experience to go back and find him you know lots of people will play characters kind of progressively later in their lives. What was it like kind of excavating him earlier in his life than you had already built and kind of encountered him? Working backwards is an interesting thing, because of course we as actors in playing a role always look for the nuance of something new to play, and this was my biggest concern in going back into stop was history was to be able to really explore his history, although in my conversations with Vince Gilligan. The. Also, in my knowledge of character, we want to keep certain things secret, because that is the titillation of the character people WanNa see more. They WanNa know more that they don't know. They WANNA supplies. They WanNa save about what what who is he really so I knew that we'd have a very particular journey in going backwards for me. It was modulating and thinking about what this man would bed like. When he was trying to create his empire, would he have been as a congenial? Would he have been as compassionate to human beings as a front of looking more compassionate and less agitated or aggravated or intense, as we've seen him in breaking bad, so it was a challenge for me to work backwards in play a younger less. Formulated Gus, but someone that we do recognize so that when we're able to put these building blocks together that they would be perfection, and so for me I been through great toil to find little things and little ways to create gus as yet a uniquely. Different character than that of who we saw and breaking bad. And Gus and this is a little bit of a spoiler for people who haven't already watched breaking bad, so just be be aware. Take your little. Skip button if you need it but you played a very famous and kind of icon conic death scene for Goss on breaking bad, which revolved around no, Gus, being grievously injured to say the least and walking out of a room, such that he was in profile, but he was from we were looking at his his left side of his face, and as the camera pans around. It's the right side of his face. That's destroyed, and I've always been curious about how you interpreted. That very unusual comes out of the room, straightens his tie. What the way that was constructed meant for you. It meant that you really saw a man who was true to himself. Gusts very meticulous in the conversations that went on between myself. Advance in regard to his death were really important to me because. The town's not big enough for both. Both you and Walter and so I fully expected knew that he was going to get to the sentence. Where you know, we've got to find a way to kill you off what he end for him to consult with me. Just, in that. Alone was a great honor. I said look us. Walk into a hail of bullets, and he knew he was a made man, and he knew that he was respected, even though he was despised by the cartel. He was respected because you could count. Gus was honest that gus was true that Gus. Did have the integrity build build buildings business without cheating did have the integrity take care of the folks who stood in the way of that so for me. This particular last seen was brought everything together. You know it was my suggestion to incisive How my ego out I said Look, you've been inspired by microphone, but I was initially inspired by your initial righty. Who this characters we came together. We figured out how would be done. Because now you created the darker you did all. Is Okay all well and good, but in the end. How would it be done well? Look you know when I get up. As a gentleman I got my jacket closed in deference to whatever business I might be doing or. Indifference to myself. I straight might tie because ties do loosen up as we speak more and move more, and it's always been irritates me to see someone STI-. Not Worried should actually be a net. And so bids got very excited and went straightening your tie I said well, if you notice in all the dailies constantly doing that making sure presentable and for me in my life. It's very important to be presentable very aware of it. I'm very aware of showing respect to the company. I've been by dressing properly by dressing respectfully, because firstly I want to respect myself, so that is the whole clue to who gus really is no matter what he's doing. He's been raised properly. He had a good Ma. Guy Really well and so the matter. How bites angered? How angry is how much he wants to be the hot head. That's underneath there somewhere in all that anxious. Very, very subtle performance I. Work Physical Work that I do that distaste things in and you can tell. Gus is not happy, but he is able to be in control of himself, because that's what he puts out to the world, so that last scene to me, he's putting out ready to go. This is the way it turned out complete respect. Let's move on and to me that it's just a wonderful moment. A wonderful television moment that will live on forever, and I have to say as an as an audience member I also. Also think it's such an interesting turn, because if you're watching, it's a really good test of where you are at that moment in terms of watching these characters, because when you see him, come out of the room and he appears to be. appears to be okay for the first few seconds. Are you hoping he's okay? Are you hoping that he has escaped, or are you in any way hoping that that he will somehow survive this attack, or are you relieved when they swing around? And No, you know walt got him. Or what particularly love about the writing of this show, being dramatic and encompassing such. Such really wonderful balance of kind of. Real life comedy happens in our lives. These writers and Vince Gilligan is masterful at that because we've really reflects real humanity, and that's what I respect about being able to grow a character at a world so complete somewhere in season for the audience began to like us somewhere in season four. They started to pull for us because I think they could see. And start to realize that no one is black or white. We, all would have a question. I read an article thirty digress about an art dealer in New Mexico. Who hit two million dollars worth of gold jewellery in the mountains ten years ago. To get people to hike more. To get people. Into Nature Wall. You're laughing. This is now. This is news. Be Baby and it was. Believe you. I just think it's an amazing idea. It's an amazing idea took ten years, but the money was finally by Summa someone's a billionaire millionaire because they finally found it, but so this reminded me a lot of Gus Gus. Really cares about people. He wants his business grow and you can have. Your idea that it's an illicit business is just a judgment to gus. He can be selling to be good, but I think about that because I. Think about the complete character that gus became season for where people started to realize. Nothing's black and white, so I I I mentioned this this art dealer in this money in that it was finally down because I. I realized that if someone came in my house right now and could a million dollars on my desk. I have to search for my moral line. I would have to search myself for a second to say. Wow, that could all make it easier, but do I want to be easier like very aware of people? Give me gifts in my life, because I realize. Realize Oh, I walk around John. As though just me. I'm just a person human. Being I don't carry. My fame might might might Gloria Bat in front of me because I'm confronted so many times by the public as be gus and I realize that's powerful enough, but would I be able to hold onto my moral turpitude moral line? My integrity might judgment my. My intention if someone offered to buy me out, and it's the true test of your character when you can say no that goes against my principles, and so what I think people started to realize was gus had principles and yes, people have black and white, dark and light, and sometimes we have to struggle to stay on the right side of that line and. To me, it is the delusion, the deluded aspect of what's happened in our society with our our great politicians and a great religious leaders. That has that get the line gets blurred, and then we start to trade on what we really believe. And then we lost it because we can be bought and so for me. There's a real moral lesson in gusts, Journey. You'll hear. The rest of my conversation with Giancarlo is supposed to in just a minute. Did you like me? Watch the electric company back in the day. Did you know Giancarlo worked on that two more on that after the break? Bullseye from maximum fund dot, Org, and NPR for James, McBride racism in this country has been a disease as been the cancer that is has been killing us, and now we want to address the problem. I mean you can't address canceled until you know you have it. And these people are seeing the cancer author James McBride on protests, a pandemic and his new book listen to. It's been a minute from NPR. Hey, I'm Jerry Hill Co. host of the brand new maximum fun, podcast, Fanti, and I'm travel. Anderson I'm the. Fabulous Co host and the reason you really should be. The nausea rising Fanti to be a big fan of something, but also have some challenging or anti feelings toward it, Kinda like Cognac. We're all fans of Kanye. He's the musical genius, but like you know briefings, flavors, choice, or like the real housewives of Atlanta The drama. Do I WANNA. See Black men fighting each other onscreen. To Na NA NA. We're tackling all of those complex and complicated conversations about the people places and things that we love, even though they may not love us back, fanti maximum fun podcast now. Welcome back to Bullseye. I'm Linda Holmes, and for Jesse Thorn. My guest is Giancarlo Sposato. He plays Gus fring on breaking bad and better call Saul. He's appearing dozens of other movies and TV shows including Spike Lee's legendary. Do the right thing. Let's get back into our interview. You know it's interesting that you would mention the importance of holding to your your principles because I. do also want to talk to you about Do the right thing. This is a film you play. A Spike Lee plays Mukhi. Who is a pizza delivery guy in bed stuy? A An Italian pizzeria and the guy you play out is one of his buddies, and probably the most famous going say the most famous bugging out scene is a scene in which he's walking down the street with a fresh pair of white Jordan's on a white guy in the Larry Bird Jersey bumps into him messes up his sneakers, and bugging out confronts the Guy We're going to listen to this clip. Who told you? To be my labor owned. By brownstone on my block in my neighborhood, my side of the street. In a black neighborhood for anyway. Justification clown. There's a free country making Lube River. My treat. Say That's. Guy Says free. country. Just it's so. It's so ma the way he does it. How did you? How did you build bugging out? He's a really interesting I. Want to say kid, but he's a really interesting guy. He's got glasses and you know he sort of goes around trying to rise up and trying to get a boycott going against the pizzeria. How did you develop bugging out? You know I I loved the script when I first laid eyes on it, and when we started to actually rehearse for a week beforehand, we have the the film that was made by Saint Clair born which takes us through the rehearsal process of do the right thing which I think is really quite brilliant. I wanted. To be someone who had a taste of what might be like to be in a protest rally feel like they were listening to who had very little bit of knowledge about. Black history, but knew that he was a victim of injustice, and over again just by virtue of the color was of the way he looked, but yet I wanted him, and you mentioned the glasses, so it made me think because fight. Off through the rehearsal process. What you do your hair what you do, every spike Lee movie I would do something different my hair with my love, because I wanted to completely transform myself into what the character dictated. That the look and the field should be and spike was so hesitant when I said I'm wearing glasses and I did that partly as homage to spike because spike folk to me like he had a large dose of bugging out within him, and so was. I don't know I don't know man I don't know and so I got these big bifocals and I wore contact lenses to reverse prescription. It was a whole ordeal I went to my optometrist made. By you want glasses, lasts I, said because I wanted him to be to appear to be someone who had a chink in his armor a weakness. He couldn't really see as well as he wanted to. And that was for me a A. Tactic to allow myself to not be able to see as much as I wanted to. So. That's not he's not. He's not a senator. A congressman, a spokesperson for the people. He's the person who's lived who gets excited by small piece of information of that. He may have gotten about Malcolm X. that incited him to find his voice, but he's a little off the rails because he doesn't have a platform yet, so I wanted to accomplish all of those things within this character. Someone who is searching. Searching to find his own blackness within the world that we call as John. Savage said this beautiful scene, wonderful actor, a free country. I often called say we're in this place called America. Yes I respect the flag. Yes, I was raised Roman Catholic league up First Baptist Roman. Catholic became an altar boy. Almost a priest by the military school almost went into the military very very very. I felt as if I belonged to some something because I can call myself an American Bernie nationalistic way of thinking, but I realized that people call themselves America, but they don't act like there were barricades they don't act. Like would be so I really really happy that you move on to this movie I didn't expect you to, nor did I realize you were going to a week ago? I was sitting in my living room. Thinking what do I tell my children? I am a mixed race human being with a dear friend of Spike Lee. We've had over and over disagreements about white black white black. Until he looked at me and said well. If we have a revolution, what Saudi, you GonNa go to. Are you going to be with your father? Are you GonNa be with your mother I said? How can you ask me that question? He said when you are an astro European. Argue about that for an hour that we August the okay, we agree to disagree on certain things, but I was in my living room, thinking what do I tell my children watching clip of the civil unrest, and the protests in front of the Minneapolis police station I saw a clip in the afternoon Minneapolis Police on the roof, and the I thought came into my mind. They were setting up barricades on the roof of. Of the building was. That's not gonNA last all I hope it does, but that's not GonNa last all the next clip I saw at eleven o'clock at night I had tears in my eyes, and I got shudders because they were chanting no justice, no peace same as were, do the right thing. The clip that they showed the building burning just like sows pizzeria burning, and I was taken back to nineteen eighty nine. And I cried because I thought what do I. Tell my children because nothing's really changed. At. How do we have changed? And I'd the deplorable seen made me cry because I saw Ben the days after that people destroying their own neighborhoods, their own local groceries, which will never reopened to. All the looting, and all that and I said I can't get behind this and here we are five days after that at a new dimension of transformation has happened with the world. Forget just the African American community in Brooklyn. Forget just the African American Watts. It's a whole world now says enough is enough, and now I feel like we have the beginnings of a conversation can change. Legislation can change DEMOC racism within our organizations that look at people who come to the door as being trouble or being bad Jewish buddy growing up because they was called. I'll never forget it. You could never say my name. Zito! He would say it really fast because he couldn't say it right at the beginning and he'd put a ball afterwards, which is bad. Off. And I said what do you do that? He said because you're black. You're back. That's the reference we gal is that you know you got something? Your intentions aren't good. Edgy start laughing, so I live with this kind of feeling for years and years and years, and the only way for me to heal my own anger and resentment to become an actor to be able to be the best that I could be to have meritocracy Klay in my life. That I'm not gonNA play into the race car and I'm not gonNA play into the days. They won't allow this. They won't allow that so personally for me of this movie is very strong, very powerful, the nugget of sweetness and gold is that it. It still holds up today, and that inspires people from our recent and local a nuance peaceful protests that come out of all the violence last week. Is that positive change is possible? Because now we're all human so I. Encourage people to get humid and that's that's been my whole big fight who I totally understand this now and his anger. He's still angry. He's still protesting, so there's all these needs to do. But he's become an advocate for humanity, and it begins with his African American humanity extends to the world humanity that is being. Being shown today in light of all, let's come about since George Floyd's Merv well and one of the milk when I went back to watch when I did go to watch, do the right thing one of the things that really stuck out to me that I that I. Don't know if it gets as much attention as you know th, there's a fire. There's unrest. There's the there's the death of Radio Raheem and the the ensuing kind of destruction, but I don't hear as much about the fact that the police officers who kill. Kill him put his body in the back of the car and drive away and so the the idea that there is supposed to be a protective function, which is what they are, you know which is what they're. Basically, therefore, theoretically, it always seemed very emphatic and intentional to me that they that they leave, and they leave the neighborhood on its own and silent his sons on their own. If you're concerned about the pizzeria at that point that always has struck me as one of the the major decisions of the ending of that film. Yes indeed end. Spike, obviously made a decision to have the film and that way it within the last five minutes of the film because the police are afraid to their lives. Because of what they had represented in the past human beings, instead especially the African American community and to take that. As a general response is what many people have done. Look I had two children go to the march. One of my gals went in New York City last week. She went to to March is a day for five days. And she and her two white friends she went with. were approached by african-american police officer, and they immediately took three steps back. My girls black to or white because they were afraid. They didn't know what to expect from this human being, who then took a step closer to them, which made them even more frightened, but they stood their ground and this black officer. Said, thank you. Thank you for being here today. So I've heard those stories for my children. Two of my other daughters went to a different church, and they were also reported by African American police officers. Who couldn't look them in the eye? They were so ashamed to be part of a battalion that were bad they. I guess they call it. huddling or Barreling, they were moving this crowd, canceling peddling booming crowd of protesters into an unsorted physical situation where they knew something would happen, so they were forcing the situation, but what we haven't talked about here up at all is guns. We all talk about that. We got all this going on talking about police injustice all this stuff, but no one has talked about the fact that we are a gun. Loving nation. Out of our amendment right that allows us to do to be to carry guns in the, and what about the country's? London for one has bobbies for years. They don't carry guns, so is that tool or that weapon of protection? Is that tool. Should that tool be in the hands of police anymore? Now we have the tools the knee right the need the coal. The way that people have been trained. But when do we get to the point where we talk about gun violence in our society as equal to the violence that is systemic racism, because it's in a way, it moves together hand in hand, because if I feel threatened whether I'm police, officer or an African American in my community. That's a really rough neighborhood I gonNA feel consoled by having a gun. I have a way to protect myself. If no one else will, so that has to eventually enter the conversation as well because it all boils down to are we going to be a peaceful humanitarian understanding Compassionate Society or we're going to be society when all the words are gone, I can go get my nine and put a hole in it. And I think when you asked about kind of what it means when people talk about defunding or abolishing police I think one of the things that some of those folks are talking about the argument is if you had police with different equipment, right? You don't necessarily need to send people who look like they are outfitted for war for everything that people currently call the police for they, don't they? Currently people are calling the police. Because you know they're worried that the next door neighbor is sick or hurt. You know the need for the need for everybody to come in with guns as you say, you know armed to the teeth as they say it's. A little bit different. It is it sends a different kind of message I remember being on the Brooklyn Bridge and nineteen, Sixty Four Plymouth valiant on my way to have dinner Paul. AUSTER and serious debate to wonderful authors done of a couple of homes with wonderful wonderful writer I. Remember on that Ridge. Changing lanes and I remember putting my blinker on I. Remember seeing the lights of the police car behind me and I went. What did I? Do Wrong. My garage will certainly I was pulled over I remember the mother of my children who is white being with me and I. Immediately rolled my window down, told her to roll her step. Why rolla down right I just wanted to say look. You know you're married to a black bed I stopped the car put my hands on the Dashboard and looked in my rear view mirror, and these police officers came out of their car with guns trained on me out of the holster. On me? And I went. Oh, okay, even if I didn't have Mike Lynch. Will they come to my car with their guns drawn with they have done that if I was white, and they kept their guns drawn on me and my former wife. They got a sense of who I was, and that I wasn't GonNa be may be combated, so the mindset is everything you know. My intention was diffused at all. Don't get angry. Don't accuse him of any wrongdoing. Stay within the line, so you don't get shot my former wife. Joy was beside herself that I was I could accept that treatment. And that that would be just the way it works for a black man. In our time is going back many years, but nothing's changed. So that's one story. I worked at the Atlantic Theater. Company doing play by John Patrick Shanley, called storefront church. We were in our final rehearsals I three. We finished our rehearsal our tech rehearsal. That's right. Twelve hour attack at eleven thirty twelve o'clock at night, I walked out of the theater to go to my car, which was parked in front to get a change of clothes. And on my way and I hear sirens, maybe a block away. I finished getting my clothes. Mike Belongings I walk back into. The courtyard of the theater and there are six police officers who pulled up the beater. Three cars, six cops all with their guns drawn. And Toby to stop. Where wasn't dropped the bag screaming? Drop the back drop the back I dropped the bag with my clothes on it. What are you doing here and I'm dressed in character in a soon for the play. And I said I'm rehearsing a play. We're doing our tech there inside. My hands are up in the air. They told me get on the ground. I got on the ground. They searched my bag I said. Why am I being stopped well? There was an assault a block from here and one of the COP and another cop tribe did instead it was some black man in a Hoodie and I said I started laughing about the our suit. I'd say well. Do I fit the description of the black band noting that you're looking for no answer? They get the off the ground. Still don't believe the or WanNa let go because the front of the unit was under construction, could maybe out near doing some riffraff until we got inside the director of the cat, everyone's shots there, guiding the into the theater with guns drawn on me to cooperate and. At and they finally let it all. Go I Mexico to a reporter Al Sharpton call the next day. You got to stand up for this. You gotta go on. TV GOTTA do this. I said Al. that's just not where I'm at with this today, and that was going back about ten years. So all of these have come back to me. Watching the clip of do the right thing in the protests because I feel like I've never shared these stories. You're the first I've shared both of these stories ever, but I realized that leads to my pain. That Saburo substantiates. My suspicion of the police that boosted substantiates my suspicion that I have to act a certain way because otherwise I'll. Act a certain way today, so that I can still be here tomorrow. And, that's. Bs that's horrible. When I realized the pain, I have inside that I. don't access my cover up every day and I don't care by children about feeling unsafe in our free country. It does make me angry. It makes me angry and sad anxious, and it makes me feel like what the hell am I doing year only. You know. American battalion I'd say go back to. All those things up for me because I feel like no one will ever know me at this may be the cry and the call, shout and leading. Because if you only know my color of my skin, you don't really know me. And we all want to be seen we all WANNA be recognized. We all want to be a had the have had seen in a light. That is truly who we are. So these are important issues for me, and this is why choose the roles I'd do specific way. I chose the role of gusts spring partly because I wanted people to know. The scourge of crystal. Mess that our country is. We are part of that. That that this is a horrible drug that takes people's lives. Has People working off of greed? It's a horrible thing that has done to our country. Allow them because economically does help a certain way. I think our government has made has just become sort of complacent with the fact that there is a channel for some kind of economy. I don't know what it is. That doesn't stop that I chose do the right thing because I felt like the message was important to me. I choose projects because if I'm able to finally tell you these stories on. I'm willing to release my anger. I'm willing to forgive. I'm willing to be more understanding of WHO I am. I'm willing to stand up and have my voice. Be heard on that in a way. That says all are bad, but in a way that says don't you see we need reform? Now's the time. The very legal I want to play one more thing. It strictly personal on my part. This is the first work of yours the I remember. I love it so much I had to play it. Go ahead. Roll the clip. I love it. That is the theme song to the Electric Company. If you're not lucky enough to have been born in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, like I was in grow up watching the electric company. You Sang on that track I sure did. You bring me back. Jerry Graff, wonderful man who was connected to the electric company, thought that I would be a great fit for that show I remember getting this offer at being head over heels about having the ability to be a say on this track introducing this particular show which led me two years later. Be Big Birds Camp Counselor on a two week stint at bear mountain on Sesame Street. So for me. This was the first time that I. really belonged I belong to a family of young people in a show that was revelatory about education and emotions, and saying how you feel being a kid, and that being all right all I'm so glad you saw that show that was just. Oh, it's like yesterday to me because I feel like that was my opportunity to be a part of the whole and I fit, and it felt good. Honestly I loved Sesame Street. I loved Mr Rogers, but electric company was the one that my like kind of loud playful kid was most excited by electric company, so appreciate it very much. Well I so appreciate that you were moved by that because was a very special time for me. I then like my children. Now are struggling to find out where they lie within their blackness. Where does their blackness live within the community? And where does the community live within the country in the world and I want them to become individuals with very distinct point of view, the electric company allowed me to feel a part of a whole which gave me back the gift of being an individual because I felt like I had talent and I knew that through my talent. I could uplift people make people laugh make people cry. Have people look deeper into who they really are? And had people young people look to see who they wanna be because I believe you can be whoever you want to be your integrity intention. has to be sincere, and it has to be passionate, because my one blessing is, and you bless me with all these clips you take me through parts of my life that I haven't been to a long time, and it helps me realize and understand that the reason why I feel as if I am still so deeply in love with what I do is because I'm still excitement. I still feel like it's a viable way for us to share and the fact that I have so many things to be able to share in my career. Really humbles me. It allows me to no one of the lucky ones, so my advice to my children at all young people, even people who are more in my age rates. You know over fifty. You know if you're not happy with what you're doing in your life changing you, don't you? Don't have to you know. oftentimes in the old days in my parents know they couldn't change because they felt like they committed, and that was it but. But I've reinvented myself over and over again. I I believe that we have the ability to do that. We should be doing what makes us happy. And what makes us proud makes a smile gives us a little table inside, and if we don't have that, move on, find something else find the tango, because the tango is the energy of lies, and the tango is the energy of service, and the tango is the energy being of fill. In the skin that you were given in the talented you were given in the creativity were given i. don't care what you do. I'm talking business. I'm talking whatever it is. find the juice because the juice of the electricity that will allow you to be original, authentic and. So very very real at human. John, catalyze Posey. Thank you so much for talking to me. This was really really fun I had so much with you. Your joy to speak to thanks for covering so much territory in this short conversation. Giancarlo is buzzy though you can rent or stream the latest season of better call Saul now. He's very scary in it. The show has been picked up for a sixth and final season set to premiere sometime next year. That's the end of another episode of Bullseye. Bullseye is produced out of the homes of me and the staff of maximum fun in and around various parts of the country. It's hot our colleagues. Stacey Moltke started a garden a few months ago and this week received a complimentary Thai Basil Plant. 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November 15, 2018: Hour 2

Here & Now

42:25 min | 1 year ago

November 15, 2018: Hour 2

"Uh-huh. I'm Jeremy Hobson it's here now. And I'm in London today. It has been another day of drama over Brexit. Prime Minister Theresa may held a news conference this evening. She is standing firm saying she is going to do her job make tough decisions and push her Brexit deal through parliament, my approach throughout has been to put the national interest. I not a partisan interest, and certainly not my own political interest. I do not judge harshly. Those of my colleagues who seek to do the same. But to reach a different conclusion narrowband some of those colleagues have resigned today, including May's Brexit secretary also member for own conservative party calling for a leadership change. So a lot going on here. And we will follow it during the show. Okay. But I to California where the Wolsey fire is still burning in the south in the north Butte. County officials say there are now more than three hundred people missing from the campfire and there are questions about whether a qu-. From the utility company. PG any may have ignited that fire and questions about whether the is being held accountable for its role in other fires last week. The company told state regulators that one of its transmission lines had an outage around the time when the location where the campfire is thought to have started and this week campfire survivors sued PGA, saying it failed to maintain its equipment. Well, PG any stock dropped more than twenty percent yesterday. When the company said, it's insurance wouldn't cover billions of dollars in liability. If it is found responsible Dale castle has been covering all of this for the Sacramento bee. Dale bring us up to speed it's common for tree limbs to hit power lines. And cause sparks that. Cause fires this has been an ongoing concern, it absolutely has Robin last fall. When the the horrific fires at the wine country and killed more than forty people. PGE's equipment has been found responsible. For majority of those fires. And the is facing an excess of ten billion dollars in liability. From those fires the company has started a preemptive program to trim tree limbs more more aggressively and to actually do preemptive power outages when the winds kick up fact, they had one of those about a month ago. They thought about doing one last week and cancelled it because they thought the winds at subsided. So PG any is really up to its neck and wildfire issues, and it looks like here we go again. So the company is making the case that it's doing the best it can that. In fact, one of the biggest problems here is climate change, and the increasing heat the the wins that whip up these embers, but your colleagues at the San Jose Mercury news right to say, remember PG is a convicted felon for its negligence and the twenty ten San Bruce. Gas line explosion that killed eight people, and I guess questions about what else the company can do. Can it put these lines underground? I mean what else can do? What's the thinking is it up against an insurmountable problem? Or is there more that could be doing? I mean, they have you know, thousands and thousands of miles of power lines. And I know it's been suggested about planting the lines underground that's a long term solution certainly that the company has discussed, but that's not going to happen tomorrow. You know for the immediate future. You're talking about power lines strung together overhead by power poles. So what do you think will happen here? They are saying they won't be able to pay but people who've lost homes are suing. Well, exactly. And nobody's quite sure where this is going to go a couple of months ago, governor Brown signed into law, some legislation which gives PG any and other utilities partial protection against liability. If it's found that. The company was not negligent the public utilities commission could allow you Tila to pass on at least some of the costs to rate payers as opposed to the shareholders. So it's at least partial protection, but it doesn't kick in until January of twenty nineteen. So that doesn't do the company much good for the fire. That's burning right now. It's also worth remembering that PG new has gone bankrupt. Before he Jeannie went bankrupt in two thousand one during the energy crisis. When it's reserved we're kind of bled dry by Enron and the other wholesalers and the lights stayed on. Well was that because taxpayers bailed the company out? I mean is are you looking at Californians both suing this company for what they see as negligence, and then potentially having to help bail the company out while there was no bailout in two thousand one the creditors. The energy sellers to kind of a. But I don't think the legislature is going to be in any mood to fork over money for PG e but it is possible at least with future wildfires that rate payers could be facing higher monthly utility rates. Everybody seems to acknowledge that I hate the phrase. But yeah, this is the new normal with climate, change and other factors the summers. Get drier and hotter and the fires get worse and worse. Well, and you mentioned the law that governor Brown signed recently, and some people are calling that a utility bail out and one of your legislators there Senator Jerry hill says that maybe PG he has to be split up. Is there any thinking of that? I don't think it's I mean, it was definitely a controversial Bill, and it was labeled a bail out by critics. I'm not sure anybody has demonstrated. What good it would do to split up PG any. I mean, I guess presumably too small. Companies could do a more efficient job of maintaining the power lines and transformers and all that. But I don't know that that's proven fact either doesn't sound like there's a good solution here. No, there's no easy solution because the fire seasons getting longer and longer. It's November out here. It's actually cold. This isn't happening in August. And reminded that people are in tents and things and they're cold. Exactly. They'll need their utility deal Casler of the Sacramento bee. Thanks so much. Thank you. Well, even as people come to terms with the devastation in California the tourism industry throughout the region is expecting to take a big hit. And it's starting to feel like a new normal. Yearly fires and the smoke that fills much of the region from Jefferson public radio and Ashland, Oregon. Liam Moriarty reports. For decades. The green show has been a staple of y- Oregon Shakespeare festival in Ashland. The free outdoor show. Six nights a week. All summer has a changing cast of musicians dancers and other performers. Lubbock toria Latina trio from Los Angeles made their green show debut here in two thousand sixteen. This summer loving toria. Played the green shows final performance in late August seven weeks before the season was supposed to win. The reason persistent unhealthy levels of smoke from regional wildfires are losses. This year. That are smoke related will be over two million dollars. That's the Shakespeare festival's artistic director Bill rouse. He says there were twenty six performances of main stage plays at the festival's twelve hundred seat outdoor theater that were cancelled or relocated to much smaller indoor venue because of smoke. Then there's the impact on the wider community, the most profound hit financially is people who just choose not to come because of smoke Rouse's says those people don't see plays. They don't go to bars and restaurants. They don't go fishing or biking or river effing travel, Oregon, the state's tourism agency calculated that during last year smokey summer, Oregon, businesses employees and governments lost nearly seventy million dollars. This year's losses. Haven't been counted up yet, but they could will be. More recent wildfire related impacts in California and Washington as well have brought west coast tourism agencies together to tackle the threat Ryan Becker with visit California says many out of state tourists. This summer had the impression from the news that the entire coast was on fire and cancelled vacation plants in places that were completely unaffected. He says one major initiative of the new west coast tourism recovery coalition is a website to make sure travelers have accurate information. You can get all the information you need about where the impacts of the fires where the impacts of the smoke travel planning sources from all of us. So you have it all at your fingertips, but letting perspective visitors know that things are it really as bad as they think will go only so far Brad niveau with travel southern Oregon, the regional tourism board acknowledges that smoke is likely becoming a regular part of summer here. Niveau says if the tourist economy is going to survive business, people are going to have to get creative when we had these icon of businesses such. The Oregon shakes professional or held jet boat excursions or the Britt festival that could lose their business because visitor will not come. We need to start thinking about reinventing tourism economy. First step. He says is to get some data. We've actually started recently who else has had to change their tourism economy. And we don't really have a lot examples Oregon governor Kate Brown recently announced a fifty one thousand dollar grant to travel southern Oregon, it'll pay for market research on consumer perceptions about the region at how wildfire and smoke may have changed their willingness to visit business leaders are already pondering ways to adapt. But Brad knives. Says there aren't a whole lot of options available to the many outdoor recreation operators that have made the region a summertime destination. Hiking mountain biking, rafting, Jeb boating. Any of those things that are key to June July August because we have higher water levels. We have great weather, usually, very family oriented because kids out of school that is very difficult product to reinvent some hope more. Program of thinning and prescribed burning. The surrounding forests will reduce the size and frequency of wildfires. But whether that will happen, or whether it would even work is far from certain meanwhile communities that rely on the tourist trade are watching the climate on which they built their economies change. And it's not yet clear what they can do to change with it for here. How I'm Liam Moriarty in Ashland, Oregon. This is here now here in London where I'm broadcasting from today almost everyone knows who John snow is not kit Harrington who plays John snow on game of thrones. I'm talking about the news anchor. John snow of Britain's Channel four. Hello. Good evening. The fragile agreement within the joined ITN in nineteen seventy six and became Washington. Correspondent in nineteen Eighty-four since then he's traveled the world to cover the news. And he sat down with me at the I T N studios will Jon snow. Thank you so much for joining us. It's a pleasure to have you on the show pleasure to be here. How do you think that Britain got here? Why was there a vote a couple of years ago? Why was it so close, and why is everybody so determined to actually carry through with its very simple. The conservative party has been split on Europe ever since we entered the European Union and even long before that and David Cameron reached the point. He was prime minister the time way he felt with Zony one way to resolve. And this is to have a referendum saves a referendum to heal a hopeless division and the conservative party, currently as we speak the conservative party now is more riven more divided than it's ever been in probably it's entire history. The referendum was staged in the sense that it was cold. And it was a binary question whether to be or remain in Europe. But of course, it was an absentee massively complicated question to which was not an easy binary onset. The stay. Really doesn't mean anything and lots of people who typically old people who really did want the Britain Britain of ESPN. You know, when Tuchel was around, you know, there was this sense of deference and the union union flagman, something, and you know, they have a son kissed view of the past some of them still think that they're going to get that they do some of the dead. Of course, you know, some of the people who voted a lot of young people didn't vote didn't vote a tool really thought the whole thing was not something that they needed to bother about. And that's another factor in what might happen in the future. You think there'll be a second referendum? I'm dubious, I think the political classes are being so badly scarred and stung by the first one. I mean, we live in a Representative democracy Jammie who tried referenda in the thirties and delivered them Hitler ban in. In a nationwide referenda to this day in that constitution, and we should do the same. That is not a sensible way deciding extremely complex questions and Ken leave you with some very serious trouble. A lot of people have made the comparison between the Brexit vote and the vote in the United States for Donald Trump, which a lot of people in the US didn't expect to happen. What do you think of that comparison? You just got back from the United States where you were covering the midterm elections for Trump Preet Brexit. They are very very similar entities. I think many people accept the the Brexit vote, particularly for those who voted to leave goes back to the banking crises of two thousand eight response. This government, I think possibly in America to deal with it. Not my jailing bankers. No, it wasn't fact to cut public services. So saying inequality is at the heart of inequality is the haunt of this high. I see both sides. Of the Atlantic. And I don't think we can live in this way. And longer we have to accept it is stunning to European that this gorgeous country America has, you know, all these resources all these riches, but has no welfare system. And by that, I don't mean does not map saluting. I wealth have their chinks of welfare as even a bummer cat. But you're only have which is cradle to grave cat, although will be it's being badly eroded, we have cradle to grave welfare had an absolutely free health service. But what do you think about the fact that the response to that issue of inequality is a move in both of these countries to the right not to the left? Well, that's what's so strange. I think both votes represent people who say, frankly, they've tried everything else. We don't like the way things all and frankly would just try this. And after some very loud voices of told us is going to be turned to be good for us. So let let's try to we tried the rest, and we're no richer said, it's. I I got to know you on television when I was a student setting in London back in two thousand three and you were covering the build up to the Iraq war when you look back on all the things that you've covered dries Nelson Mandela, the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Iraq war this. How does it stack up in terms of its importance in British history? Well, this was described by a minister in the present government who resigned the other day over Brexit who described it as the greatest catastrophe facing Britain since the second World War. And I think that this. He's not wrong. How do you think journalism has changed since the nineteen seventies? Well, I think it's much easier. I I'm not doom sad. I mean, of course, the session network is introduced abuse. And and also fake news. And this that and the other, but generally speaking for those of us who practice journalism, it's infinitely easier. We have access to untold conscious of information that we could never have got the full government cannot tie up in red ribbons things, which they don't want you to read they get out and published online and the rest of it. And I think that the acts the digital age has facilitated what we do in a way. No, none of fullness could ever have imagined for the better the worse. I think for the better, I think both the New York Times and the Washington Post a better than ever mean. I actually think NPR is better than it's ever bean. And these people go around saying, oh, you know, he's gone dunks. They're no good Jennifer sniffed anymore to fake news. I'm sorry. It's not actually true. Of course, there's a lot of. Annoys at that. But if you want to know, the facts, you won't know, the facts, you can get them in a way never mean to get them before, you know, we get emails all the time to people who listen to our show and experienced this route my time at journalism in the US, and they say, why aren't you as tough as the people in Britain? How come you're not asking questions like them? There's a more combative approach I feel like journalism over here. Do you think that's true? I think it's true. But I do think it's the job of journalism to ask competent questions that that you know, he's actually to question power. I think one of the big problems is not journalism, but it's pilot. I think the consequence of the NAS twenty five years of the growth of the financial services industries right across the world has been to sap up some of the greatest leadership in the world. Some of the most able people some of the most creative people I have interns went for me who said I. Desperately wants to be a journalist in great. I'll help you every way. And they said when you know what we're gonna do we're gonna pay off student loans. So I'm gonna work for insurance company in the city, but I'll be back in. I'll be calling you. Five six seven years on. Hello Gladys you still at a when I I've paid off the low, but we're getting a flat. An we're gonna buy a house and Joan I maybe one day. But no, it'll be no day. I think this is one of the great shoes of look across the world the leadership geminis collapsed. France is in trouble in terms of leadership. Italy, this is Europe and the rest of okay, but America into I mean, I want to be kinda Mr. Trump thought nobody could say it's exactly quite what the founding fathers had in mind where are the leaders of the post? What is your favorite story that you've ever covered the one that I learned most about and enjoy doing in learning was covering the Iranian revolution. In nineteen Seventy-nine. I found myself in a country of amazing people highly educated badly lead a country rich in resources. And six and a half thousand years of civilization Molin evident, and I've been that practically every year of since a lot of those things it's still true. But of course, because of the terrible breakdown in national relations with around some of which there in fold the country is in terrible crisis. And maybe I'll fat west was as time goes on. What is it like to be the other John snow now that game of thrones has become such a thing? I know nothing. Boston thought. Actually, I I'm delighted after they spell his name the same way as me as w I interviewed him about the program at at the end of it. I said Jones snow yuno nothing and he replied Boston. NPR and is bust, but there we'll find out. What about the ties years doing in front of me, you're wearing an incredible green tie? You've got socks to match. Poon? Green socks. I remember when I used to watch that every night, you'd have a different usually stripy, right colors, different colors. Where did that come from? Well. You can see on Stu there. And it's full of poeple's blacks lights. It's very bright and funny. Good. Good student really good student, and I was the dumbest thing in it. Because you have to suit there's no other way around. Right. I mean, I thought I could play with the suits have a red suit green suit a yellow suit. But I thought that might take away from this area to what we were talking about. But then I thought the one thing you could do better ties, and there are not people making cross ties of you find them. And I'd also thought as we don't have a desk that this was a good idea to and frankly, it's never let me down. You know, I have various time. I Cus who come in and show me what they're doing to pay. But I do you have now probably I mean, Trump is when I really bold with them. They go to charity, and that raises a lot of money, but I suppose one hundred fifty wow, thank thanks to Texas. I bought a very good revolving tirerack in Texas. I bigger in Texas, Texas tyrant. Jon snow. It's been a pleasure. Talking to you. Thank you so much for joining us. It's been a delight. You can see a picture of the tie and socks. Jon snow was wearing when we met him at here now dot org. This message comes from NPR's sponsor, indeed when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast with indeed posted job in minutes. Set up screener questions then zero in unqualified candidates. And when you need to hire fast, accelerate your results with sponsor jobs. New users can try for free when you sign up at indeed dot com slash NPR, podcast, terms, conditions, and quality standards apply. Today. A judge was expected to rule on C N N's lawsuit against the Trump administration. But he delayed it and they ruled tomorrow. So will he rule that White House staffers were within the right to revoke the press pass of CNN reporter Jim Acosta because they thought his behavior was unprofessional. Or will he rule that barring one reporter bridges the first amendment rights of all as CNN claims? Let's take a quick look with NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik. And David we know the judge in this case is a Trump appointee. But he didn't tip his hand during the hearing. So how did he question the party's? Well, he seemed to go a little tougher on CNN's attorneys than on those from the Justice department representing the White House on this. And yet, you know, it's not clear where he's going to land among the questions he had for CNN was whether this really they could really draw direct line between a upset with a Costa's. You know, persistent perhaps route questioning and tossing him out with. Drawing that passe he pointed out that Trump had blasted a lot of people including CNN fake news for quite some time and hadn't revoked pass and of the Justice department. You know, he questioned whether the White House felt that it had the right to to revoke the credentials of pretty much any reporter for pretty much any reason and the White House just said, basically, yes, originally said they'd Bana cost because he laid hands on an interim the woman trying to take the mic a day then released Dr tape from consider conspiracy theorist, but they're not using that in their defense that a problem for them. I think it is. I mean, certainly CNN's lawyers are trying to take advantage of that saying that you know, they've shifting rationales for the revocation. And that undermines the credibility of the just departments case for the White House, the White House, you know, acknowledged that it was not relying on that. In fact, lawyers conceded that point under questioning from the judge that has been withdrawn as you know, evidence of the improper behave. That it still is attaching to cost, but it's now attaching on the basis of persistence and unwillingness really to yield the microphone surprised that Fox News joined other media organizations, inciting with CNN, let's say that from a journalistic standpoint, you could argue that the right thing to do is also very canny thing for for Fox News to do that is a number of news organizations have joined in filing briefs supporting CNN, both as a sign of journalistic solidarity and an acknowledgement that maybe in another administration and other president could well pull there reporters press cards. Let's think of you know, if you magic a very liberal president Elizabeth Warren on the democratic side, really dislike FOX coverage or FOX opinionated about her. She could pull it in. And if they said if the court said, that's totally fine to do than FOX could be in that position. It's also way of FOX reminding people of its journalistic element at a time. When a lot of it's opinion hosts, which really drive the bus over at FOX are under a significant critique for for the kinds of. Spiracy theories that they sometimes spreads enclosing kind of had a minute. Are you worried that in CNN literally going toe to toe with the administration, it might color their reportage and on the other hand, even if the president loses he's cast CNN as the adversary. And they they were. Well, this is terrain that Trump in some ways is happy to fight on that is making a head to head battle with between him and the press, and he uses often to encapsulate that at the same time legal scholars I've talked to some media executives say sometimes you can't shy away from bite, even if it's one that's desired. I think this is one case where the real question is what if CNN loses and then suddenly they don't have that right to the press passively that they thought they'd. Media. Correspondent David Folkenflik. We'll hear from the judge hopefully tomorrow in his David. Thank you. I'm in London today where Prime Minister Theresa may is standing firm behind her Brexit deal, despite what has been happening around her today senior ministers resigned, including May's Brexit secretary and a member of her own conservative party is calling for new leadership prime minister Meg knowledge that during a news conference at Downing Street tonight. They must do they believe to be right. Just as I do. I'm sorry that they've chosen to leave the government. And I thank them for this is, but I believe with every fiber of my being that the Kusei have set out is the right one fraud country and all people BBC political correspondent, rob Watson joins us now with the latest, rob. There has been so much activity over the last few days. Where are we right now? I'm tempted to offset I may have you done. So. Everything's going to pieces since you arrived. Ted. You know, I was reading a book the other day about the the the French revolution. Although there are no guillotine being erected hair outside parliament, definitely sort of whiff of revolution. And chaos. I I guess the silicon steel question is that we are in a moment of profound political crisis in the UK ova, Walt Britain's future relationship with the European Union should be an and more immediately how it should leave. And what was saying the moments as the prime minister, not just fighting for the deal that she thought that she had wanted to achieve that separation beginning you relationship, but fighting have very political survival in these these are truly almost revolutionary times. We can hear the protesters behind it under their at Westminster right now that we're hearing about a possible no-confidence vote against to resume wh what are the scenarios involving her future? Well. There's no doubt that a very significant minority of the conservative emp, a conservative party have I pro- Brexit thinks that she's messed up the whole Brexit process that Britain's departure from the European Union, but not as abrupt or hard as they would like it not enough of a clean break. They would sit and the so angry. The question is will have enough of them to mounts leadership challenge. I mean, his thing. People don't wanna get too mixed up in the weeds, British politics. It seems to me that the crisis says whether whether they get rid of Theresa May or not whether it's her or anybody else leading the conservative posse that party the governing pots is deeply divided. And it's very difficult to see not just that potsy, but the opposition Leiva pods is divided. How enough any to get through parliament? You see what I mean? It's difficult to see what kind of arrangement would win a majority in parliament's. Is there a possibility of a second referendum? This is something that's been talked about a lot of the last few days that they could put the question of Brexit again to the people for another. Vote. Do you know, I think it's just growing all the time for the simple reason that what what would spark a second votes? Second referendum. It would be the sort of sense that the politicians completely gridlock hair at lesson. And again, I keep going back to say why this is a profound political crisis. It's profound because one this is a very important issue. Britain's place in the world, it's relationship with your opinion, and too because the leaders of the two main parties the leading figures in the main political parties, particularly in the governing party, they are not they are not agreed on what Britain's future relationship should been given given that deadlock given that it's hard to see a deal getting through parliament. Maybe that will be maybe that'll be the only alternative grizzly though. It might be them any. And I was just going to say that that you know, almost everybody would admit that no deal would be the worst possible outcome. But in fact, that's not the case. There are some members of parliament, Brexit tears who would like to see no deal at all. And just have Britain crash out of the that is true. But I'm noticed that some of them have got a little bit more a little bit more wary about that over the last couple of days because all the scenarios looked up by businesses. Most economists most neutral observers as that it would be absolutely catastrophic for Britain's leave without to deal and in a way that remains Theresa May's best cod. I think the getting her version through parliament that idea that leaving the European Union deal. It's whole having a second referendum or general election, a domestic political crisis just about anything PETA than any of those just a few seconds here, rob. But I I have been watching you on TV here in the UK on BBC one on BBC World been listening to you on the radio here. What is this been like for you? Goodness. I never thought about it that way. I suppose that set of sense of watching history thinking that these are just not normal times. I mean Britain was up until very recently, I suppose somebody that send us a stable prosperous democracy. What on earth has happened for its for its politics and its people to become so poisonous divided BBC political correspondent, rob Watson. Thank you. Thank you. We've been out talking to people here in the UK about Brexit here in London we met Pat Metcalf from Liverpool. Did you vote in the referendum? Oh, definitely. And you voted to stay you voted to stay definitely why? Well, because we we just didn't want to we'll watch. How the hell we what? Or nobody knew what was going to happen. We still don't know. What's going to happen? Do we we will? We didn't approve toll on we. We thought that this should have been the diff a big percentage of the people who voted because we thought the vote was too close. We thought it was really quite. What do you think gonna happen now? Well, we just terrified ready because we know I everybody's telling lies as far as we can see just we don't just think about it because we will hope into go abroad later in the year for fifty isn't. She on them we done book because we don't know whether we will we need visas. Course it worry. I think we're all very worried about it here now. Peter O'Dowd talked with Paul Benham in Derry Northern Ireland Briggs wool, not help. At all. We're we're we're so used to feel in part the north and the south feeling almost as the one thing that the border doesn't exist at the bring a border here. Again, was always the problem. The first place aboard it was always the problem. You know, and that's what people are worried about that somehow or other going to split the country buckle. Did you vote to remain or to stay? Oh, I would always remain staunchly. European the we feel feel more feel more more European what even feel Arish and a I'm happy and front some Hoppy and Germany how badly. I went up to Coventry in England and met Glen Davis. Did you vote in the Brexit referendum views weird? And so you've got it to leave. Yeah. Said do you think that's going to happen? I'm not sure now if you if you doesn't cushion two years ago out say we'll be within the week. Tune obviously. What do you think happened? I don't think the expected people to vote. So that didn't often the would have fiddled the referendum votes. The gnome. Would we're going to be out. What about you? Did you think that that people would vote to leave also know would vote to stay in our surprised when we when we voted I do you think there will be a second referendum? A thing. Three Somme would love that via second referendum bits. Fifty fifty. I think the Wilby would you feel betrayed if there were a second referendum. Yes. I wouldn't vote of already voted once. I mean when I voted off time it didn't say, this is the best three it said. Do you wish to leave the U of a? A new one about the this is the Vesta three nor I wouldn't vote again. Finally, Jackie clues in Coventry. Did you vote in the referendum date? And how did you vote? But to leave do you feel good about that vote today? No, particularly don't think we have enough information fooled vote. What information have you gotten since that, you wish you had before we've had the negative side could possibly be don't think Lewis enough. Oh Cus on not before the vote. Not. I think the way the country's gome. I think we won't to be independent and south sufficient, I think most people tired of being dictated to by your. Are you? In some things. Yes. I think we to make some decisions. Do you think they'll be a second referendum? Don't. Would you feel like it was good or bad? If that happened. I think the people voted nothing should stunned by that vote. I'm not saying I would vote the same way. If there was some of the vote some voices around the UK about Brexit. You can find all of our coverage at here now. We've talked about influences ordinary people who share opinions about products on social media and often are paid by the companies who make those products because they know it's much cheaper than traditional advertising will now there are patient influences. People who share the thoughts about medications sometimes paid by the drug makers and represented by companies that broker their services. Kate Sheridan is with our partners at stat. And Kate you wrote about one such company Wego health, how does this work? So if works in several ways, one of the focuses of my piece was at this is now happening in an organized way through what I referred to as almost like a talent agency for patient influencers. This particular company will talk to pharmaceutical companies to drug developers and ask them what they'd like help with. And then they will go through their database of influencers. They've collected over the years. They've been in business and see who would like to work with this company, you profile a patient and Marie Ciccarelli. Not Dr not a research. Cher- someone getting paid by drug companies to promote a product what are the kinds of things that they say what Enron case what she does is actually to. I think different things she has written about procedures that she's had done that have been free of cost to her. But she's also been paid for her time and her expertise as a patient directly from pharmaceutical companies. So she's spoken on panels about what she's learned as a patient as a caregiver. She spoken about what could be done differently in some in some cases. Well, so she may be can be critical of the drug industry, but doesn't this raise the same questions that it does when we learn the doctors, for instance, are being paid by the drug company or being given things like trips to promote certain medications that you can't trust. I mean, how can we trust that? They're not just doing this for the money that Emory and other patients might be paid to talk about a product. I think it does raise a lot of the same questions. But at the same time the answer to that question is grounded in the same. Principal right trust. We have to have some trust in our physician that they're doing what's best for us. And if we don't have that trust then. Yes, of course, we should be questioning what they're advising the same really holds true for these influencers. They have very dedicated followings based on the idea that they are reliable source of information. For instance, if they are let's say a cancer survivor and they're still having treatments, and they are not giving the correct information out to other cancer survivors. I imagine they would quickly not an influence or that would be a huge problem. Yes. Not only for the trust that they've built with their with their following. But also with the FDA, of course, a lot of these patient influencers that this talent agency will work with they very specifically want to provide correct information to patients not just to anybody. Well, there is some light regulation of this. Correct. I mean, you can you can't just willy nilly post things if the company is is putting out incorrect information, that's really when the FDA will step in and say, hey, you guys needs. Take this down. And correct it in general the influencers are kind of responsible for keeping themselves in their own lanes. Of course, when you when you get compensated by a company for that as we saw the Kim Kardashian case, you do kind of reflect back on that company. Remind people would happen with Kim Kardashian west in two thousand fifteen so can credential in west posted something on her Instagram promoting pilfer morning sickness. She said that she had been using it during her pregnancies in a made her feel better. Unfortunately, she forgot or neglected rather to disclose the potential risks. And also that it hadn't been studied in women with a particularly severe form of morning sickness. So the FDA sent a letter to the company warning them that it had to be provided next time, and that the post should be taken out a credit in some way. And you've said that these could be niche patients, they don't have to have hundreds of thousands of followers. It just matters that people wanna listen to them. But how many of these influencers do you think are out there? I mean, this particular agency says it has roster of over one hundred thousand I think, yeah. It's quite a lot. But at a certain point, those are just the influencers that have been identified, and you've talked to a company synovium how how did they characterize to you the benefit of these influences for them, not only did the company get more impressions, which is kind of a traditional marketing metric for products. But they also saw that more and more people were following through on certain actions that they have linked have studied with actually getting drug. So I'm looking at the numbers here, their impressions, the people just looking at this jumped from less than one hundred thousand to more than thirteen million after they use the Wego kind of patient hub service talent agency, if you will thirteen million also they saw that about fourteen thousand filled out of discussion guide which to them. That's one step closer to buying the drug precisely. Yeah. As somebody who uses these influencers, how do you approach this? I mean, how much you say it's a matter of trust. Is there way to vet them? How do you trust it? I think at a certain point. It's it's important that anybody who sees something on social media or online talks about it with their healthcare provider. A lot of people do that. And some people don't feel comfortable there. Things are gonna feel judge. Do they think that their providers going to dismiss them? But it's really the only way short of going through papers and trying to decipher the researcher self to get a real sense of whether or not you should take action on your thing that you're that you're seeing online that's K Charrette in from our partners at step will link you to her writing about medical social media influencers at here now dot org. K thank you. Thank you. And a quick note last night, the twenty eight team national book awards were given out. Congratulations secret, Nunez, who won the fiction prize for the exquisite, the friend will post our talk it here now dot org, maybe can influence you. Here knows the production of NPR WBRC association with the BBC World Service. I'm Robin young. I'm Jeremy Hobson at the BBC in London. It's hearing.

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Racetrack Industry Program Enroll today and get on track for success. Nearly ninety percent of our students are employed in the racing industry immediately upon graduation for scholarship opportunities and more check out our website at you away dash rt Ip dot. Org Now back to at the races with Steve BIC on Sirius. Xm radio the table bomb Rebecca race to the top of the hour seed asking will join us in a little bit and then Don Brumfield on the anniversary going back to nineteen sixty six of kings win in the Derby yesterday. Bill Boland and While bill was with us though we heard the mccart getting into the hall of fame. Mccarthy didn't win a Derby but boy did he come close in fact his first four Derby's. Jr's Pat. He was fourth in seventy four for little current in seventy five eighty was on master. Derby who of course would go on and win Later but Four that year. Run Dusty run normally would have been a pretty good mount in the Derby but not in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven and then he was he was on Jacqueline Klugman. In one thousand nine hundred eighty and Third behind genuine risk. That was as close as he got the four top. Four finishes between seventy four and eighty for mccart among eight mounts. Tony Black morning mining got was fourth and eighty one and I thought I said that day instead finished fourth. I'll tell you why you got a great program today. Every time I hear any in about Hong Kong racing in the People's interest in it and the money that is bet in the popularity of the sport has in Hong Kong. It's great to see raising in that light and it always makes me think and I've settled billion times of bill heart you can. I know he ran over there and the seventies I guess it was late seventies and then he started his career. I believe over there And then you are talking about one of my favorite aisles. In racing and guided I rubbed elbows with on many occasions. We have the same valid Danny Brumfield love. It was a great guy to be in the same corner with and and I know the verses Twi game winning the preakness you know. It's great that Guys like him have been involved in sport after being Jockey. I know he was a steward. He's done so much when it comes to be an ambassador but a sporty representing himself in this very well. I'm just excited to listen to when Casey called me. His timing was perfect. I was just fooling in the park. Parking lot of the school that my daughter goes to. Saint John of God's or Bishop Dummy on school for the mentally and physically disabled. And I'm coming over here today because I had a pick up some equipment that she has here that we can utilize it home so I couldn't believe how Casey caught me just as we were pulling in a lot so his. Timing's good as yours and I didn't want to skip over. You know we. We didn't get a chance to talk Last week I didn't WANNA I didn't WanNa miss you two weeks in a row but Especially having had the conversation yesterday with Bill Boland and today Brumfield and celebrating these. These Derby Wins Derby Memories Zito and Carl Nascar as well Do you ever ride for you ever ride for Nascar and not that I could. You know I don't believe I ever did the other thing. Forgot to say. I WANNA congratulate down my car. Getting in the hall of fame being inducted in all of them I remember when he was riding in Jersey Byron and in Pennsylvania and he was Ryan I call for last route in Dade Vance powerhouse. Outfit they were and then eventually you went out. West but congratulations to To Daryl and you know like when they when they talk about Winning triple crown races. My Uncle Sam Bonita He's in the National Hall of fame and he never won a triple crown race. He he wrote from forty eight to sixty seven one about twenty five hundred racing but it's not always based on that it's It's all a lot of times it's based on not just jockey performance out on the racetrack. It's your performance in the jocks from and in life. So Congratulations Daryl. Down the car style. Hair down mcharg. You certainly deserve that the induction I brought up say the other day was it yesterday with the conversation. With what horse was that when he was four? Well I think it was sword. Dancer Tony and that let me see. Actually I got it right here because I think it was with Sword Dancer and I said to Bill. I said you know Tony. Black is with us. You know every week and it said his uncle Sam Bonita said some turns Let me just take a look here? I now. You got me intrigued because I specifically noted struck me that You know what Steve. My Juliet was positive by nine. My really and his husband was one of the greatest believes that he wrote. I believe she's in Hall of fame. Cosma look around. He's a great important well an an important broodmare to Yeah it was Sword Dancer Sam. Actually Sam Road Him in his debut at Hialeah go in three furlongs one of those two year old races and then later he was at Valmont in July on July fourth actually fifty eight Sam road him in his fourth career start he would not break his maiden until that Summer Saratoga meet to August twenty third and then Sam also got three turns on them in a row and finally got a win on him he wrote him in the Hutchison to start the fifty nine season. He wrote him in an allowance win and he was second with him in the Florida. Derby you know it was really interesting. My uncle's career raking it had its meat and eat go from Jersey meets Garden State. He come up sometime during the beginning of the garden state me. He's come up from Florida and then he would go to Monmouth Park Atlantic City back the garden state and then the Florida for the winter and the whole family would move to Florida. My cousins is children now. They had their schooling in New Jersey and Florida. And it was. It was really an interesting time because of the traveling that he didn't have beautiful house. We used to go two thousand swimming pool and Jerry Hill. And we'd spend the summers because of course he and his agent Freddie. Krieger was was one of my age and size and he was a real cat. And we always meet over that same school and have You know Saturday and Sunday parties came would get home from the racism. His agent with driving Jerry Hill Villeneuve City Jerry. Among Park every morning and every that was his age was also chauffeur and It was a different game to some extent at that time but it was so the exciting just to be around my uncle and then I could sneak off the garden state in Right every once in a while in the sixties you know and then he retired at sixty seven and then I took up being a jockey and continue the family jockeys and Jockey family in nineteen seventy so. There was only a law in the family of history of racing as a jockey. Well and you know it is amazing when you see certain names in fact I was I kept looking at some things yesterday after the show and I saw and I realized later I could have. I mean if I had seen it I would have asked them. There was a Boland I think going even back. I know it must have been the twenty three. I saw somebody and I it occurred to me. You know I wish I had seen this. I could have asked Bell. You know the About relations and there's just there's so much There's so different connections like this and see certain names and some you you now. I mean it. It's fun instance watching Kate Braid Arcade Keeton during this period has put out a excuse. Me Racing was a family heritage. It was you know it went from one lake to the next when it came to be jockey. Trainers you know people on the race back You did that in my family. I mean here. My uncle started as off because he was a little guy. In in Marlon that some fight trainer promoter solving. It was a boxing promoter. And he says you know. You'll never be a box eh? You might be a and he's talking to the racetrack. Meet some eight forty. Like forty six or forty seven. Forty eight was right and you know and I started Greiner Marlon at the time but it was because I can't think of the guy's name It was a name that comes up as a fight. Boxing promoter started and then it went to Miami and then his son wrote filling that with a severe injury Sample Mehta's junior and then my brother came to visit me on the race track after I graduated college and took a little high eighties. You know before we got a degree in business and a good degree from rutgers and on just come into visit and he wound up getting a. Roy took my book for a few months. He couldn't stand work but he wound up getting a job in the office. And He's been in the office in the racing offices in Jersey Pennsylvania since Since he graduated college in like seventy seventy three or four something like that. Seventy four and It's part of a family had and I started talking about before I buy something my throat but Keeton radar and our grandfather Atkinson. And she's been she's been unearthing with everybody's at home and and you know they're going through people are going through boxes and find all kinds of stuff. It's kind of fun and She's put up some great pictures of Ted and I actually. When I found a picture at at Pimlico I sent to her. And that was a great shot of Ted Atkinson. There's you know it's a family. It is a family in fact. I'm just looking down at Champions in my lap and here's Tom fool staring me in the face. Ted Atkinson road every single mount of a career pretty funny fairly interesting to go back and look at those black and white. Yeah I love it. I love putting those pictures up crazy. Yeah I I see them in and I've got to blow them up to the date was in black. I'm like I'm In a month out the other day and I got albums over there. I guess through in all pictures of the seventies and early seventies black and white collar. You know but Andy money like seventy five picture at that time. Now I think about fifteen twenty twenty bucks absolutely in your pocket I five I four or five hundred racing to get all your pictures and you know and then after four or five hundred eating get too many more than you got just state pictures and stuff like that. That's what Johnny I get whether it really is interesting to go back. And Look at some of those veterans just like when they were brought up the worst Sherbrooke Barclay tags and it was finished in either Marlboro Racetrack in stake race. The Governor's Cup and then he came on and I think he said that was his first stakes winner and I wouldn't know no. It's in a dead heat against Tony. Nello at Mall Borough Racetrack. It was a bull ring. That was a slow race drag all quarters of a mile I guess and it was always kept slow and had had it on even base so used at the dodge uneven spots. Horses never got hurt their cause they ran pretty slow go. That's it the kind of safe dull surface that that keeps anybody from from over Over exerting or going faster than their bodies can can take. It definitely was a thrill to ride at those faxes even like riding. Shannon Doa Jaws Down Shannon DOA thing. But it was a faster track. Monja was a fastback. And your mind I and and brains had a different concept from the speed. Because you were you were running on a smaller track fast or and since the was smaller even look fast or when you do you adjusted your mind's eye to the speed and the surroundings around you so the first time you wrote on three core five h of a mile racetrack was like riding your first race all again from a mile racetrack you know. Your mind's eye was geared up to the speed at the Mile Racetrack and surroundings. Won't pass you curricula really you know And and then all of a sudden you went to this five eight smiles right and everything was just zipping by 'cause you would bake interns and running down stretches and making poems and it was a different you had your. You had to adjust to that so it was always different when first time he wrote a five eight straddling the it's a skillful rider. Right those strikes really have to adjust to whereas speed the ability to run around turns You know ability One down short stretches and switchover hopefully to the right to the left league going into a turn coming out of a turn and it's a whole different experience. It's exciting and It just a lot of times patronage to looking and evaluate in the experience one of five eighths of a mile race. That awards has happened. Because we're used to evaluating it on Momma on a great Berkman ray of back in you know experience but it's a it's a fun experience score jockey and it's really fun experience with. Jonty and a horse that can handle that situation and negotiate terms and it's come up a lot You know we talked about it a couple of times because of the fonder park situation and and people getting involved in betting fonder or you know even watching it and seeing what a different you know. What a different kind of of racing that it is and were a big help explaining it. Tony just wanted to make sure we had a couple of minutes to to connect this week and let you finish up your what you're doing and We'LL CATCH UP NEXT WEEK. And you make me stay high. Boot for Mesa. Never forgot him and tell him did say did the old valid that I am and I had little always kept me aware of where he was and what he was doing. Just Tony Blacks. Thanks Steve got it will. Now go ahead Tony. Thanks a lot Tony Black. Everybody and and Nice that he's got that kind of connection Don Brumfield. Who's going to join us at eleven thirty after we talked to Steve asking good morning. Good Morning Steve Steve. I've I've been waiting to hear from you all week. I am well. I thought I would have heard from you at some point earlier. The last couple of days really sure. We've we've been running these Derby memories and I thought that that you would you would come back and say I got a great story about about Zito and Striky I got a great story about NASCAR and unbridled and street cents whose anniversary or and. I don't know if you would have had. You probably didn't have a great story about Middle Ground and Bill Boland but because even story about Bill Boland how in the ninety nine Kentucky Derby. I think I've probably told us before but case anybody I hadn't heard we touched on. We touched on the on the near What what he considers he said if you know based on what we saw last year that if it had happened in this era that he would have been put up a little bit more to it than that. First of all. First of all of this you'll make had ridden sword dancer into stepping stone purse the week before and fell in love with them and want wanted to write him in the Kentucky Derby and try to get out of this commitment the right Tommy Lee and the trainer of Tony wouldn't let him out of his commitment so he was forced to write Tommy Lee in the Derby. So Elliott Burch put Bill Boland up for the Derby and when they came to the quarter pole you know from from all reports and quotes and comments and stuff when it came to the quarter pole Some Lee it was tiring shoemaking. He knew he was dead. He was on an and Tommy Lee wouldn't change leads and he was he was he was just getting tired. And Bill. Bolling came up alongside Sword Dancer and Bill. Shoemaker yelled over to him he says you got it. You know go on because he knew he had no horse and when he moved up. Tommy Lee was getting so tired that he drifted out and he bumps sword dancer but instead of going on with the awards so the answer came back in and bumped Tommy Lee and knocked him from left lead onto his right lead and so mentally and now on his right lead got that extra. Put that extra gear. That extra burst and he was just able to get up and be answered by like a quarter of a notes but he was a dead horse on so the answer came in and bumped him and to right lead. I love it and another a another bill bowl. A memory was coming out of the gate in the race of the century in the in the nineteen sixty seven Woodward stakes with bill ball and putting absolute strangle. Hold on Doctor. Fager coming out of the gate and run. Turcott on head of our and Bobby essary on great power. The two rabbits there were whipping and driving their orders because they both both instructions from Eddie new lawyer from Johnny route from. I mean you know from Frank quietly work you just go and and just run Dr Fager you know but go out there like it was a long sprint. And they went out there and they was screaming were screaming and yelling horse in whipping him. Coming out of the gate. And here's Bill Boland honest with a stranglehold on Dr Fager and outrunning the other two horses. Who spending coming out of the gate. And he wound up going twenty to forty five and one one nine and one and just that you know Dr Faker wasn't quite ready in his career To withstand that and go go a mile and a quarter But but we if you ever get a chance to watch it watch the jockeys on those three horses and watch bill bowl and pulling back pulling back on Dr Fager and still he wound up out running to the two sprinters who were who were being whipped in and driven coming coming out of the eight and in addition to those visits were also at the bottom of the hour. Don Brumfield is gonNA join us to talk king. Well the thing is I mean nothing. Nothing against Kelly king but try and picture a Kentucky Derby Okay that was won by believe it because affirmed and Alydar both got injured and didn't make the race that was that was that was ally King. I mean Kauai King Won that Kentucky Derby. You know if you if you looked at the horses who were up to blue sky and advocators and those kind of voices yet to super horses running that year. Yeah Buck across stock and they both got hurt and they both were forced to miss the Derby and left it. Probably the most wide open derby in history. It was like absolutely no standout in the coming again. Kauai King was a really nice source. You know we had come up from Maryland. He was he was. He was a good horse but he was not even remotely the same classes and grout stark. But you know with them missing race. It really wasn't a you know. Lots of beaten a stupendous. Like I said and Blue Sky Your and advocators and you know it was just. It was just a very ordinary but But it is what it is and the thing is is that the horse Was fairly close to winning the triple crown. I fairly close but I mean he didn't run badly in the Belmont but he he he. He wasn't amount of lost and he really certainly was not deserving of a triple crown but he was He he was good. He was good worse. There's actually a book that came out on horse racing but back in those days was the Pixelbook horseracing and it came out that year and it had some really great photos of that Of that Derby what. What is it called? What do you have it? Yeah I think it's it's called The horse the Horse in the and the bluegrass country. I believe that was named it. Great Book I. It's it's all black and white. I think they might be a couple of key. Color pictures in there I think it's really nice. Color PICTURE OF NASRULLAH RE rearing up It's very interesting book But probably probably could not find it anywhere. Now there's a lot of books now you couldn't find. I've got some book share that there's no way in the world you can find. I've got a book here. That may maybe. The most remarkable book ever in in horse racing not that it was so well written but it was It was a combination. It was It was ruse written. And you know with collaboration with the. What's the Taga for was it? Was it collect their One of the great photographers of that era but it was a book called rollaway. That was the name of the book was just world away and I went up. I remember buying it in Lexington Kentucky in an old bookshop this I bought it in the sixties and there was this old there was a Lexington can't remember. No election in London. Wanted to but it was. It was an old bookshop and there was a bookshop in London That specializes in nothing but horse racing books and I remember it was on grows in place and when when I went to England in For the first time I might have gotten it there. I can't remember but it was a book called rollaway and what they did. What did is that you know was just starting to you. Get to come up in the world. But it wasn't. It wasn't a powerhouse it was. This was in the late thirties and photographer. Decided to write a book and follow a horse from the second he was born through his career and he and he and he chose rollaway and the first page of the book is worldly being born like one second after coming out of the womb and following him through his all photographs of him as a fall running around yearling going on van going off to the races Just on Matt also triple Crown and the match races and then to the end of the book has worlwide coming back to calcium at farm. And he's on one side of the fence and his dam is on the other side of the fence is sort of like almost nuzzling each other. You know being reunited with with the Damn Fascinating Book. I mean to Tuesday triple crown winner to stop photographing from the second reform and he just kept photographing you all all the way through his His life but I have I have I have to I I I. Did you saw old books but the horse and the bluegrass country. That was very. That was one of my first books ever a really good book and a lot of Kauai King. Well I'm just about to as you say that I am pushing the button at thrift books and I just I just bought place order. I just bought it. I got it for four dollars and thirty nine. Five seventy six with tax and shipping on on. What on Amazon? No thrift thrift books You there's there's like three or four used book places that I love. There's video There's thrift books and there's a books and it's unbelievable books to order Old Books I've got so many I got you can order. You could've ordered it from me. I would have sent to you. Would've you would've gotten top dollar though you would. You wouldn't built for nothing nine. Let's put it this say my bookcase that I have so many books on it collapsed. All my books. Now are laying at an angle you on a broken leg of a bookshelf and the war. And I've got another book case. That's made of plastic. Federal also collapsed. That's in my bedroom I I've got Brooke slain all over the place here. Don't question is is finding them. If I if I could get all these books I can get the books and put them in boxes could sell them. All at one shot You know for people who haven't read them for me. I just books for. I don't even want to tell you how many years bluegrass country was was was one of my first One of my first books. I don't believe that was a fascinating book. It's got a color you know it's got a color cover and I can't really yeah. I don't even have the the outside their cover but say what year was published. I'M GONNA say set sixty six or sixty seven because you know had to be that year well text and photographs by Bradley Smith. There's like four lines. There's a mayor and a foal running together This does not actually what I'm looking at does not have the details. Steve of the keeping the I'm here I'm curious. I got photographer right well. Speaking well speaking of which speaking of world away. Let's I haven't really roller running two lengths off the pace in the virgin exactly exactly because finish. He would've won that he would have won that race with with a slightly different He was in good position but he was a little too close and citation. Absolutely the opposite the reverse trips citation should have been running where all the way was and worldly should have been. I mean citation was running. I think eleven a one point which is absurd. I mean citation sever and never went back. Say Right off the pace. And we're all the way things when World War One the Derby and he came from fifteen twenty lengths out of you. WanNa raise by eight. Lengths broke the track record. So I don't know what he I don't know what he was doing there. I'm looking at. What does world away doing their station. Steve I'm looking for your world away book but I have found something that I've never heard of. Which is a novel world away by. Val- Valentine way this looks. This looks wild world away. The Great American Looney bin Horse playing and record collecting novel by PLO. Valentine it's got a jacket recommendation from Tom Robbins. No less. And here's the book overview Eddie Plum. Who insist he's been unjustifiably? Committed TO A. California Psychiatric Hospital managed to finally escape after fourteen. Years of incarceration to start his life anew on the run he holes up in a sheltered barrio on a bluff above the Pacific owned by his wealthy unsympathetic father here. He needs sweets. Telepathic dog laments. The loss of Safiya is mad house lover and plays the horses. It del. Mar Story. I it sounds like plenty of plenty of it's called world away and it looks. It looks absolutely crazy. Pogo and actually it. Looks like Poe? Ballantine has got a series of these love and terror on the howling plains of nowhere also by the same author. Anyway I'm still looking for your world away and you don't mean you're not the one that I found founded in some remote old book book a bookstore. It's nothing but old books and I'm thinking I I can't remember 'cause to bookstores. Very similar. One was in Lexington Kentucky and and when I went to in the late eighties in late sixties I mean and the other was in London and I bought it in one of those two shops. I'm thinking Lexington but But I I've never seen it. I've never seen this. I got it. I've got it and Leslie NAF also simultaneously. I just founded it. It's The life and times of a great racer by By Bert Clark Sayer published our. Yep Yeah he was like wondering like maybe Z. Top horse racing photographer at you. Back in the thirties and forties or so. He was like the top photographer But boy you're talking about getting lucky and you know having a crystal ball but I mean of all origins and it's not like you know it's not like he did this in nineteen fifty after you know when when when. Calcium at forum was was a dynasty or twelve through the forties. He roller was born in. Nineteen thirty eight and at that point. Nobody really knew much about farm of Cairo's I really believe with thirty nine and that was that was not when you when he won on war and I think it was thirty nine But I in calcium you just you know became big. It started with the you know with worldwide winning the winning the Crown. But it's fascinating. It's got great text the whole story you life to Pick the pictures from the grandstand taken. Like behind the people. And you see people you know with all the the opposed holding up the roof and everything Watching the The World Away al-Sabah of mattress mattress. You know and you see and you see it from different angles. But it's not usual usual photos but does she role in his. You know as a as a yearling in his paddock and running around And then like I said it was time for you know for the horses to go off to the racetrack and they got worldwide being led onto the van heading to the racetrack but at the time who knows. I mean the horse from a from a stable you know was not that you know powerful at that point at all. That's pretty good. I mean that's why that was I if YOU'RE GONNA book I would definitely order that book. I mean it's fascinating and and it's not just a picture. Book is the whole story behind it to as they got all the marriage that was not a successful stallion. Must've top horses weren't But at the end but at the back of the book they have like a list of the Mayor. She was wet too. I mean it was just like everything about about world wing. Who is probably a very underrated ores. If you look at it you know considering what what he accomplished. Nothing about world ladies that I don't know I. You know the fact that this was the Kentucky Derby but yeah but he came from so far back to win the Turbie and so forth back to win the preakness and the Belmont stakes. You have to like a quarter of a mile. He went through was like it was basement. So slow it was like in sixty nine when dyke whose stone closing went to the front running so slow rate actually went to the front people realize by the way that thirteen triple crown winners. I believe ten or eleven. I don't know the exact number of my head around ten or eleven thirteen trip crown. Win One Belmont wire over virtually wire-to-wire as we've discussed every time there's been every time we've added a a triple Christ. Try fifteen years of the show. We've this did fleshed out. It's hysterical and you know that that's the way you know. I think when we re probably when we were talking you know I guess it probably Farrow and that you know there was no way that you know he was just a natural for you know for what was going to be required out and bumper. Phero to quarter kick out of that. I don't blinkers either. That was the other thing people talk them there. There were a few hiccups with this thing out. And he gave birth American favourite quite a Quite a bump. They're unbelievable you know Steve. We got algorithms. I'd like to know what Algebra's how how would determine that justify was gonNA get left the gate there's somebody was gonna there's GONNA be some random You know there was going to be some random happenstance kind of think the Steve. Let's talk. We got fifteen minutes before Don Brumfield joins us. Let's spend it talking about the two Arkansas derbys and some impressions on those results. Well I I. I'm officially convinced by the way that That Bob Baffert had some kind of a cloning machine and if you go back to America favorable and you go to arrogate and you go to the Dow and Charlotte and and justify and several Gustavo all these these hot horses eight rings. They're all the same horse I mean every year. He's got the same. He has the same horse. He got a speech. When Wendy? When can you remember Baffert Derby horse by the way who came from Kent? They don't have the same horse I mean listen. I was extremely impressed with both of them. I was lightly. I I the Dow oversaw for several reasons because To me he to me. He had proven more because he showed for the first time. And it's one of the reasons why I hadn't ranked him. Hi I had. I had him ranked like even down in eighth and ninth. Because it's the first three races. Even though he won them did not win them like a Derby horse he was just headstrong and went to the lead. You set ridiculously fast fractions. And he came home slow which is not what you want to see in a w what you. WanNa see and I kept writing. I WanNa see that reversed and you know what that you just? Just just what he did in this race for the first time in his career he sat off a horse and wells by you. Shot on the game back. Basically broke the cake From the outside but that was the best thing that could have happened in the Dow and he was able to lay just offers flank because the first time and he settled. He wasn't headstrong all. He just waited and waited and waited. And then when When they asked him he He went right by wells bio like nothing any came home and he came home actually to Phipps faster than Than came home And you know. He came home in like twelve three. Yeah which is legitimate. And on top of that look at his pedigree compared to Charlton's pedigrees. Sure I mean he. He shouldn't even been doing what he did. His first three starts by blame but his entire pedigree is all stamina. Getting that kind of early headstrong speed. That he showed but it and I said if if he ever runs to his breeding. He's going to be legitimate derby horse and he did. He finally ran to its breeding and now the sky's the limit. I mean I don't you know we don't know how good he's GonNa be. But you know the bottom line is we don't know how of these horses are going to be four months from now. I mean detour. I mean we can have a derby gonNA look totally different in four months. We've got such a convoluted schedule coming up. We don't know what these sources are gonNA look like how they gonNa have you gonNA run. What race are they going? GonNa go in. It's going to be if every if if all these racetrack do without fans here's how many Derby preps they were going to be so. I mean we don't know what's going to be but right now. The Dow looks strong. Charlatan is obviously a brilliant horse Pedigree is you know is a horse. That's probably a mile or maybe up to a mile race. But the way he runs he runs. He looks like a stay and was like you say he's got a big easy going stride very similar to authentic who's also bred to be a miler tops a mile and an eighth but he also has his be you be this big long easygoing stride You know you know. He's very light on his feet. So you figure that you know a horse like that with his ability to stretch speed out. But I look at Charlie and I look at I look at every year. I look at all these baffert. Horse isn't the same horse. Yeah HE GETS. He gets these horses. These brilliant horses And they will have the same running style so Again I mean I can't. I can't project these derby horses or not. You know we still got so many horses that awaiting Race win you know when Max Field comes back you know. If he shows that same explosive turn of foot that he showed in the breeze returning. That was eight months ago and he's had surgery since but if he that's him what we saw in the brief thirty do you remember. It was only coming off of one sprint race over. The he looked okay but if if what? We started brees fraternity him. You Know He. He's got to be a major a major player. And you've got a horse that I like. A LOT IS GONNA become back in race horses desperate to run the race. And you've got these horses in California we got Authentic Way and then you've got honorary p waiting to come back and and several others out there that needs to race so we'll see what happens with the Santa Anita but you know we're GONNA we'll see we'll we'll see what happens as far as New York and what kind of Derby preps we get right now right now the schedule is completely up in the air you know you had. Nbc Like you mentioned you had NBC breaking the story and then you had some feeble attempt. You Know Life Group saying we don't really think about that but Leave me I mean. I'm sure I'm sure knows about it. so I'll I'll say this by the way let's say they run the Belmont June six or even if they wanted late June early July. Or anything like that you know. We'll have to be running a mile. So let's say you're horse wins the Belmont at that at that at that distance at that date and then wins the Kentucky Derby and then Wednesday preakness October thirty. She had triple crown winner list. You know with a with with Proviso. No huge proviso. I mean crippled crown. Basically is is to is to have a horse win three races in five weeks this year. Horse winning three races in four months is going to be a huge huge difference. And you're not gonNA have the test of the champion because the Belmont stakes is basically going to be a prep amount another mile and prepped for the Derby. And then you know if they don't run into six if there's gets delayed and let's it's late June or early July when you got the Los Alamos. Those Derby is being run on July fourth. And who knows what they win? They're going to understand needed derby. So you know. Obviously the travers is GONNA get backed up to high. School is going to get backed up. I don't see I don't see where there's any room for the Jim Dandy and then you got the other races that are going to suffer that that would be around that time of the year during the summer west. Virginia Derby Derby Indiana Derby crazy schedule trying to figure out where to run these horses. But I mean to have the Belmont and travers basically preps for the Kentucky. Derby is GONNA be kind of Weird. Everything about this is is is going to be a little weird but couldn't say that you know and it's GonNa be you know. Everybody had very few choices in the past of prepare for the Kentucky. Derby that crane is going to be. You know their heads can be swimming. trying to figure out. Where do I go to Delaware in the Haskell I don't think you're going to be able to run in the hassle anti travelers because has goes one July eighteenth. That's going to be three weeks. I believe before the travelers and and they're not gonna run there and then the travers and then come and four weeks in the Kentucky Derby so I I don't I don't see that and like I said. Is there GONNA BE? Jim Dandy. Is the Jim Dandy going to go up against the? You're running early early July so that that'll compete with the with the Haskell. I'd hate to see race like the Jim Dandy just disappear this year so and like I said California. I don't GonNa run the Sandy Derby if if they run it. But he got horses out there that Diana run and they're going to have to wait and running into Shell Amenas Derby on July fourth and now my conflict with the Belmont stakes. But I'll train is gonNA train is going to look into Belmont stakes. It's a classic it's running a mile and an eighth in July. Is it going to have the same feeling? Always a classic winner. He's just a mile nate's racist Belmont. It'll get good field but you know. The Belmont has specific purpose to test the voice of the mile and a half after after running two races back to back. And there'd be so the whole concept of the triple crown off this year but it'll be interesting whether people consider a horse that wins three if a horse wins all three a Triple Crown winner. I know Tis the law. You know bigamous. Obviously he's gonNA run into travers. That have been leader race before that we have Belmont Travers ducky Derby. I Dunno shit. This is strange saying that but the it's a crazy it's a crazy year but this is baffert is loaded again. Was those two Two very good horses that nobody talks about it anymore. By the way who's completed disappeared Is that zoo? Coast is not a bad choice. He'd be has no place to run. He was supposed to run the Sunland Derby as to win in the Derby. But he's he's been working his tail off for the last two months he's been working six twelve and thirteen and forty sevens and Even been working The work you know five foot long. You know fifty nine in a minute. No place to run. Nobody even talks about him. At roll well baffert would bring them up if if he was being being ticketed for for one of the preps and of course you know the reminder that Derrick Watson just reminded tentatively assuming Santa Anita gets. I don't know what it know. This is now getting a little alarming that despite everything last week. Yeah well well a board of supervisors. They voted at five. Nothing and every indication is that was given to track management. Was that they were getting. You know the rubber stamp to to run this week For you know for next Friday and in the meantime it continues to drag out. Golden Gate is not mentioned this morning. Got There okay from the Alameda. County Health Department yesterday But June six the oaks and the Derby right now Schedule AND STEVE. Before we wrap and I gotta go 'cause I got Don Brumfield and at the bottom of the hour waiting to talk Charlatan and yesterday after we got off the air not long after word came from Hillsdale John Cura securing a charlatan and as a stallion equipped before you could buy for for hill and Dale and baked. They can't grab resources early enough. Yeah they you get an early so you just you know just check. Check off all the horses. That won't be running. It's for your own. Would by the way you know. I'm I'm really looking forward to seeing from now. When that's yes that's supposed to be. Like Vima Beautiful Farm in Kentucky. It was called. You'LL LOT OF FARM. It's right it's right near You know it's not often clayborn stone farm then it's ready. Shulman's been there. He said it's most tax reform. He's ever been so well Steve. This was fun and I appreciate it. WE'LL We'll get a little bit more of a handle. I think of a time where together next week as to the scheduling and with every passing day more and more ovals getting their their season established. So will we might have. We might have a better understanding of where things are next week. I would hope though getting there. It's getting there the train. The trainer going to pull out of the station soon enough and when it when it comes back around. Don Brumfield is going to be with us. And we're going to talk about his Derby Win and more his career Don Brumfield in Louisville and was may seventh nineteen sixty six when quite king won the Derby Don Brumfield next at the racist. They with us. It's the with Steve Vic on Sirius. Xm radio developed by me. 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First Time I've had done on the show it's an overdue pleasure and honor as well Don here it is. It's the anniversary may seventh nineteen sixty six. I mountain the Derby and a winner on Kauai King Gordy Good Morning. How are you this morning? Don Terrific and we've been celebrating Derby memories all week. Carl Nascar the other day. His two wins which both came on the fifth bill. Boland yesterday talking about Middle Ground and the rest of his career and Just thrilled to have you the to talk about your career and and your Derby win well first of all absolutely and you know sixty six ended up being a funny year and Steve Haskins was just with us and you know he talked about grouse star and Buck Vassar. Being sidelined by us you know give some Prequel to you know earlier in the season and getting involved with King I was reading for Henry Force when I went to Florida. That winter He had just taken over Greg King as a trainer Lower Gentry was training previously to that UH in Chicago lowered. Got The job with Darby Dan farm and they add gross start in he had grown. Start be in that summer in an Arlington and He wound up taking a job that took the whole stable for Darby Dan and Immigrant hint him. Lloyd and Henry were friends. And he's he's suggested Henry to Mike Ford who owned quiet king and he we Henry. Tuck the horses over and I started riding. Knee met The first time I've already knows that. Leah He. He won It was going three quarters and then already again. Era eighty-one going seven eighths and Right then the way ran. I thought I had a pretty decent chance to win the Derby but grouse stark and That passer were the horses to beat. Those horses were sidelined. So that left us in pretty good spot instead of running in In Florida we ran. We Ran Second. We rent at at that It was it go. Unnoticed Gulfstream. He ran second to some fast stores in that That the family had but anyway Game was a Maryland Brit so we went to Maryland with even ready Maryland bred race that he won and it was a it was a it was a small stake and we stayed there in rain back any beat a horse called successor of. I'm not mistaken and Then we brought him to Kentucky and running in the Derby meantime gross start would buck passer. Come up with a quarter crack and highly so he was out and then gross start granted Keeneland I believe in Bluegrass and he. I'm sure that he got hurt. In that race in he was out so like I said that is in a pretty good spot in the rest of the story is that he was the first horse I ever rode the Derby and the one wire-to-wire to yeah he did. He did go to war. Somebody beeping in here but I'm not going to answer that call. That's all right. Don't worry about hopefully they'll hang up. Well Yeah and he you know. He went favored. Don which is which is interesting. It's not as if the public didn't you know hadn't figured out that That he was the horse to beat. no no. The he was he was I think he i. I'm pretty sure it paid six eighty or something like that. Yep exactly six eighty yeah and We ran back in the preakness two weeks later. I believe it was two weeks two or three hundred eight weeks later and Forget that guy's name was travis. Pretty famous trainer was training for for the PHIPPS family and he said before the races interview or something. He said that He said we'd be they wasn't going to let me have an easy lead that day and so instead of going to get paid and head Other let's accessory go on. He set the pace. And I said to links back over the LA- run by the quarter. Pony actually ran a better race in the preakness that he did in the Derby. And you draw off. Actually you drawing off in the preakness. Yeah yeah he did a he was impressive in the in the preakness we went We was with the Belmont in that race. The Belmont that year was Ryan at act with duck and started right on the turn and I had a decent post position. I don't remember what it was but he didn't He didn't run as well in the in the Belmont but you know he done run to too hard racism in supposedly after the Belmont they was going to give him a rest but Mr Ford said that no matter what happened. That was go that we were going to. They're going to give him some time off. Will as it turned out. He decided to run at Arlington Park in By that time but passer was back in good shape and he didn't run well into the Arlington race. Although I think he only got five and a half lengths or something like that anyway he was you know He. He didn't pull up good after that race. And they had syndicate him for a record price at that time and Mr offered everyone that was in on the syndicate their money back or they could stay in and get a discount. I forget exactly what that was We had to cooling out in the TUB ice that night after the. Raise it Harley how about that and and you know he certainly from a breeding standpoint. You can understand why he was syndicated the way the way he was he they have dancer out of the. Blenheim Mayor Sweep in. I mean he he was Was the marriage name. I'm pretty sure Yup Young. She's bread in or he was bred in Maryland Bad Pillow I think by the name of the last name is Keith. Not mistaken the Pine Brook. Yeah Pine Brook Farm. That interesting I'm going to. I'm going to go to my Maryland people for some backstory there. Don at how old were you at that point I was twenty seven. I started riding in nineteen fifty. Four and I was sixteen. I started Riding Garden State Park. I was sixteen days old or sixteen years old four days. Those sixteen on the twenty fourth of May and A That you know they let that you could drive at that time. Who Knew Sixteen years old and it's interesting because the the ended up in ended up starting in Jersey. You're you're from outside of of Lexington though. Right originally from a town in Nicholasville Kentucky now. There's a pretty good Taylor Ramsey well the Ramsey farm right. The isn't the isn't a the Ramseyer. I stayed in Nickel Nicholasville for the Breeders Cup a couple of years ago. It's a nice little town where I was born and It's a you know a great place to be from. How'd you get on the racetrack dot? My father was a trainer and he had my contract and and You know then back then. There was no that that's how you got. You had a contract now. You don't have to do that but He he used to get on horses. When I was twelve years old. My Dad would always be long at me on the phone and and That's you know I come up. Come up the old fashioned way. What was it like winning? You Know Your First Mountain at Derby. At what what big races what. What was the biggest ratio at one up to that point? I'd one hundred thousand dollar races. I think the first hundred thousand dollar as I was at Arlington Park in For Our e Wingfield was trainer and To be quite honest with you the forces name It just slips my mind right now I know it was at Trying to think I'm actually looking actually at some your winds before. The Derby won the spinster. And sixty four. You won the Black Helen in sixty five yes. I believe that was on old hat. I know I know. He wanted to spinster. And the Black Hill and one that If I sit down in studied a little bit before just got back from the store. Not at all not at all. You know the other thing that I got a mention because Bill Boland brought it up yesterday. Boland in one thousand nine hundred fifty he had won the Kentucky Oaks the day before. And you did the same thing you won the Kentucky Oaks the day before I did. Yes and bill one bill. Bill won the Derby on. I think you in the Kentucky Oaks on Areas Mona the the Derby on middle ground. If I'm not mistaken news. That's right hers. He was riding for Max and now that Billy's name that I wanted to Derby on native natives native St. Yeah you're not picked amount of her at Gulfstream Park that winter Schumaker was named honor and I think he decided to take off that day in a I got owner that day and stayed on her. She went from their garden. State and want to stay there and then Game Kentucky and she won the Oaks I love it and so I guess technically that well the black. Helen was a big race and obviously the spinster big race. But you yep you sure did you sure did and it was A. That was a really nice. She was a really Nice Billy and the court and they named You know they named A race after that that That's all you need to know about About her and and same thing with the spinster the year before that was for Charlie Norman. Early Norman yet Charles Norman. The A- The trainer and after yeah exactly yeah yeah wrote a Lotta horses. I've got on her because they was that she was having trouble keeping her from running out around the first turn and I got Mr Norman asked me to come and get on her and I got on for weeks or so in Ghana were. You could handle her without much problem and she always rained. Well for me. The data stream. I'm sure of that absolutely. It got up. Got a fold in some of the story as it unfolds later on. Explain to everybody what you know what the atmosphere was like in sixty eight your other. You know you ultimately get put up on forward pass and He almost a long time ago. And in it's hard to keep all those names and raider gathered. I know it went to. He went to Gulfstream and won the Florida. Derby he did he beat iron ruler. That thing and perfect ready did he. Did he absolutely did Ray Broussard was in there. Buck Thornburgh ads for circle M Farm. Thank was not getting trouble brewing trouble dribble. I could be wrong about that but like I said trying to remember all this stuff. I should have sat down before I talked to you. That's fine not at all not at all when you one listen to. How many would you win? Forty five hundred races at seventy two. You remember that there you go by the way. I got a mention your Tony. Black is on with US every week. Don and he wanted me to make sure he wanted to say hi and sent as he's a great guy he said the same and you know the minute. I mentioned your name. He lit up that he's boot. Tell boot low and we had the same valid. He was thought they were talking about it about the value share. Only the LETO. I think was are valid. Yep that's what. He said he was good. Dude I liked him. I love it. I love try to get along. Their body got good you know. Sometimes you'd have a run in once in a while but it was. It was short-lived. If you got you know got mad at somebody or they got mad at you. One of the other but You know for me. It was a great life is the only you know. I would rather I would rather be doing that than I would. Any other kind of work that you know I've been involved in the last probably twelve years at at Gulfstream as Stewart and. I no longer do that. It was a change of management and make some changes. I was one of them. Serves and you. Didn't you didn't go on at that point With with stewarding. That was it with with. I haven't pursued anything I did. I did I couple places but I haven't heard back. How old are you now? I'm eighty I'll be eighty two in. May May the twenty four. How about that? You know I'm still go okay. I'm buying really now and You know people are listening and saying we could use it we could use another good steward and and especially especially a Gulfstream. Everybody's got an opinion. I love it I love it. Well then how about the how about family life to Don Talk about the racetrack. My Mom my mom and dad both past had one brother e fast so right at the moment there for the past thirty years. I've been living Mrs Branches Lions. She's loving life. We just like I said we just got back from the store. Ad Lib Groceries. And of course you you know you. You were added to the hall of fame in Nineteen ninety-six You won the George Wolf back in eighty eight. I mean you've been as decorated as decorated riders career. As anybody could want yes sir. I've you know I love being jockey loved riding in and I still do if I could. I would go get onto. Morse's down but they would probably wouldn't let me but I would love to. I love it. I love it you would sent. Though you know has sent the Vasquez still. He's still get knocked right. We we were. We were great friends to administer though You know you you couldn't you couldn't get any better than him he's He was When he was a he was riding. Robin and I was friends. I made cringe with Frank Whiteley at Delaware one summer and I everytime I would go to New York. I go up to drive up there to rattle or something. I would go to his barn. I see him have a little talk with him. He told me one day when when that Juliet just ran. I think one time he said. Come on down your motorshow either. On this building the country in the city doll throwing up on her back. He's dead now. You can say you've had your ass on the best in the country so. I thought that was pretty nice. That's tremendous that is that's unbelievable. He was he was a good. Good Pal Mr Whiteley and a good horse trainer. How about that absolutely a good Good as review. Everyone Moat in other places. And it's just met him at Delaware that good. What summer was I've been riding it? Monmouth went down there and We were in the same barnes matter of fact we stapled right next to him. I went down there with the trainer. David Kathan we've been friends ever since we met in That was in. I think we met and sixty two river downs and We've been friends. Ever since he was he always wanted to be a trainer in the any turned out to be a very very good trainer. Wound you won. You won the Ashland with him Winged wishes yes. Yeah that WAS BREAD. That billy another operator and we took her to a place called. Liberty Bell Park Pennsylvania. Sure she one and then she came back in in. Philly that you know she beat affiliated ruined went from narrative mom within finish back sorority. Believe Anyway Will Renew Philly. That's wonderful you and your mom. Viola Viola Brumfield Brumfield mom. That's owned billy. I love it. I used to Louisa Liberty. Bell Stewart's was Our Hanford our but his brother got trained. Kelso Carl Carl. Carl was one Stewart's and I'd go the racing office. A you know like all boy. You're really really run. Good Yes yes Mr Andrew Philly. That's my mom's billy I just Brennan Don Don. This was wonderful. I've got wrap up but I can't thank you enough and we're GonNa get you back. Ok I love it. Don Brumfield everybody all in favor. Tremendous don stay. Well do unbelievable. How much fun boy? The three hours flew by Don Brumfield. Haskins Tony Black. Tommy masses celebrating on twitter. His Million Dollar Dick Powell as well and I think I'm forgetting something but what a fun morning. I hope you enjoyed good luck. You're playing today. I would look at. I would look at Gulfstream today. I think Charlie the press the two. That's right Charlie. Wise Dan. I'll talk to you in the morning weekend. Preview apple with Steve Fake on Sirius. Xm radio have you heard about the new handicapping and betting that is sweeping the nation. It's called I bet and it puts the power of AI assisted. Handicapping seamless wagering and live. Hd video in the palm of your hand thousands of betters.

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Starting 9 Episode 139 - Aaron Boone & World Series Preview

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Starting 9 Episode 139 - Aaron Boone & World Series Preview

"Series episode featuring Aaron Boone who will not be going to the world series. I didn't put that in the script I just I don't I didn't the options that I've been faced with the options that I've been presented with I have been allowed to be able to make decisions that and I have been in a position fortunately enough I've been a position where I don't want to say I've been able to choose but AH welcome back to starting nine y'all episode one thirty nine it is the world the guest I just figured hey Aaron Boone didn't interview Dallas it's a good one stay tuned for it I kind of anticipate oh These former players that teams are plucking out of media Alex Cora Aaron Boone the list goes on and on and on do you think think teams put stock in or enough stock in places where I think they really should be paying attention so your Rehab coordinators your Janki content and plus you have the dynamic of of Dallas and Boonie they go way back they they were former coworkers believe it or not you know what I was a crazy I saw that I had the Other Day Dallas was you know you have like a guy like at water Peres the rumors about D. Rowe ever maybe that Dallas Braden's phone might ring and it might be a teen being like hey maybe not for a managerial spot could be a managerial spot do you think team would ever call you you see the Marlins clubby the Marlins clubby has a sweet life yeah the Marlins lowy pitching coach not the Marlins clubby as opposed to the low A. pitching coach in anybody's anybody's farms not just the Marlins so we're not not picking on the Fisher yeah not great and I don't know who that human being is what I'm saying is as far as the money or the Revenue Stream is concerned you'll love to be I just that is what it is baseball's opportunities are always always either in the front office or at the big league level very rarely do again we want to touch all these teams we want to have a guestroom every single team are we had luke void earlier in the year we had Joe Shelhah So you know you can never get it pay to the maybe maybe the Yankees would still be around I don't know it doesn't matter it doesn't matter either way Aaron Boone on starting nine this week we give him to you benefit my family more so than I think would allow if I were to really listen to some of those phone calls or entertainment roving instructors the ones who are essentially carrying the message the gospel of your organization from level to level those are individuals that need to be taken in care of those are individuals whose jobs and roles are extremely pivotal pivotal in the growth of these young men so they need to be compensated it's well those phone calls on a deeper level yeah so I guess what I'm asking how much would it pay to be like the Marlins clubby were they what are they saying well here's the thing and be like hey we want you as a pitching coach she wants you as a bench coach we want you something do you think that that's a realistic thought I'll tell you this much you're my phone has rung like the teachers of the world like it's amazing to think that these are the people that are tasked with educating the future leaders of our country and I mean I'm afforded a very rare opportunity in terms of the access that I'm granted being able to go down and watch bullpens and Shit on jared the Marlins clubby makes more than a third year high school English Teacher Book it the I could probably see that happening they don't have that thirty five thirty six thirty seven year old veterans be like hey this is this is how you do it they don't have that guy around to be hey this is you know this is what the the routine actually is or study habits he's coaching the quality of your routine's those guys are important especially when you have young guys around young guys that are going to be impactful and I'm a pair of eyeballs that has been there done that understands what they're going through they know that I'm somebody who understands the analytics as well so they can speak to me using verbal subtitle quality control coach do you think that there's more of a need for guys more than ever now because we're seeing this trend of like hey right now compared to like ten years ago and they either didn't exist or they've expanded times a hundred I feel like there's gotta be a team out there it's like you know what he's fucking them Markazi so about what's going on in the NC double A. They just officially pissed all over the notion that we should have another assistant coach in and I'm not only watching bullpens right these guys are guys who who trust me to the point where they've taken me aside and asks me questions or just and it's not like I'm some Guru I just I'm a different set of eyeballs Katif pal guaranteed yeah I was just curious you know because there are teams that are just creating positions now like look at the analytics departments from do they need these veterans around four per se and a lot of stock goes into these guys in how they travel how they behave away from the net dugout nope they shot it down incredible they will not pay another assistant position in the NCWA knowing what those coaches do for those Tripoli you have to love the game my friend you have to love the game so I I guess this is kind of a thought that I had as you were explaining all that like a student athletes if you can't even say that with the fucking streep is knowing what they do for those ball players knowing how important they are they just refuse to entertain it fucking edge regarding things that they're developing or working on the ramp Soto things like that like there's just there's things you need to know that these guys are queuing on Roese but he knows a lot and I could help our guys what you're what you're starting to say this man I have a lot of I have a lot of extensive conversations with a lot of the guys I own but they were the veteran voices that helped me along that path I don't know that I would have been able to figure things out as quickly as I did if it wasn't for their tutelary aren't getting major league contracts anymore so you have these these younger rosters that are they might be extremely talented and ready to win now but l- let me give you a I'll be able to kind of answer that from two sides and I'll give you an example think about the struggles that you're on Alvarez this is going through right now about the struggles or just once Soto kind of kind of a little bit of a step back and you want it make him put their own bill show me love the game and that kind of transcends journey into professional baseball as well those opportunities SINGLE-A W in this Organization for a long time to come there here early they need to make sure that there's somebody that they can rely upon and that the younger guys are gonNA come up can rely who's going to help field how they show up to the field and then as I led to with Markazi how they establish and create a routine that suits them as a player because it's one thing to no that I'm in the bullpen go about his business was I actually was able to learn things from those guys but I couldn't just model my entire game after them I had to figure things out you're thirty four you're too old like you're out so like anyone that's younger than that it's like they need the veteran that no longer exists because those guys using in their everyday verbiage that is different from what maybe some of the old school guys are used to so that all all that kind of stuff to take what Marquan say is all to help these guys along as you said on the flip side of that this is a new era in this day and age of baseball so what title you want a place on this individual just to be able to get him in a union get him in the Dugout fucking throw it on them but as an absolute need for no doubt yeah I mean it's walk in and for me to watch a Joe Kennedy go about his business or watch a just Duke Scher go about his business or watch Alan embree in the Oakland A.'s Organization as a quality control coach and you're like what what the hell does it he's He's actually coaching the quality of love so it's no longer just about being able to take orders you have to be able to manage the personalities and the changing of the guard that's occurring on field leaders of gladiators in gladiator spirit you have to be able to connect with these individuals on a different level you also have to be able to connect with the suits and ties it is somebody that you're not like when you walk into the room people leave when you sit down at the table people shut up and then people pick up their plate and people were they experience that as well so you need the Zim right you need those guys around maybe it's the L. to their you need those guys around to be that's why I will always remember guys that impact my career that way and there's no doubt there's a place for individuals like that in today's ballgame so yes a quality control coach whatever the same thing's happening in Boston with with Jason Varitek I mean this is a guy there was a captain of the Red Sox a leader guy that pitchers wanted to throw to and all Major League pitcher Dallas Braden of Oakland A.'s fame for a potential big-league job I feel like that's that's breaking news no that's that's you know he might not be suiting up and getting out there and play in nine innings but he's he's doing these reports for the catcher I mean he's still like I feel like that's plans behind the scenes think about duke about guys like Rocco Ball Deli about guys like mark say whose name we're kicking around right now I think about a guy odd to be like game six elimination game for the Yankees the Astros can can go back to the world series for the second time in three years is that have been there and done that as a player so come to you and you WANNA know that they're coming from a place I was curious to see Dallas you being starting pitcher j hey you being a big numbers Guy me being a fan of the game it it felt at the end of the day J I think one thing that we got out of the top of the show here is we just broke some news Major League baseball teams have been in contact with here's a bullpen game and for the Yankees it makes a ton of sense because if you only have Paxton Tanaka Severino and you feel like your best leave you're not playing in the card game because you can't talk that shit because we know exactly where this is headed it's headed right to the top so there's a difference between being a messenger how but the thing that I kind of wanted to discuss off the top is game six and having a bullpen game on both sides I might have the marlins not going door yeah I feel like I feel it's a two way street though like he's he's using us for leverage with Major League teams and against Boston on the scenes thing that no one even really realizes he still coming up with the game plans for for the pitchers and the catchers and all this like he's still were doing all the numbers he still looking at at everything and coming up with these option 'cause they have a great bullpen is to go with the bullpen game sure they try your luck it's it's it's elimination game you go with your best option and I felt like a bullpen game in a pipeline you have to learn how to walk that line and that's the difference between some guys who understand that some guys who don't share stops with payroll all right because that's why they were searching the way they researching and that's why they were looking in the areas or in the corners for the Yankees was their best option to survive that day but it just it just seems odd and I guess in the last I think as we and you guys know that I have been vocal about this very thought that people are starting to realize starting to circle back Jay no I was going to say do you feel like you're being used as leverage right now like the starting nine podcast brand like Dallas listen you want this hot fire to continue like I feel like going back like the point was yes it feels weird now to see a game six a chance to go to the world series and we see OPA McVeigh head coach for the rams like these are young individuals who are leaders of men were poised in in that situation to potentially be leaders of men you're looking at different numbers in these numbers sort of derived from the moneyball theory where it's like when you're the as back in two thousand one two thousand two you're looking at different st mystic's to find value players out there like you're looking at on base percentage instead of instead a batting average that worked back then but now it's like okay well but now how valuable is that guy how valuable is that line especially in October six three how I mean come on you're looking finding different ways to win there were outside the box and over time we gravitated towards a lot of that a lot of the moneyball thing though it starts it happens to be a bullpen game then then give yourself the best chance to win and I feel like that's you know it's not it's not exactly moneyball but money essentially was around two falling in love with the starting pitcher and what it means to get somebody who can give you that quality start that was being shit on five two teams going with the bullpen game it's the first time I feel like that it's like that's weird but could this be something that we just see more of more often there's a lot I guess to dive into as pertains to the ACS and how it played out the first thing that I guess sticks out to me it's not the most important it's not going to be the most talked Washington nationals the AFC ESCO is six games A few thoughts on the AL CS year the Fr- I mean your fourth guy maybe your swing man's going to get the call on that day see what we can get out of him go to the bullpen and then if we need to or are in a position to for three to four guys out of the bullpen who can give you that now that guy's represented or that body of work is represented in one guy so it was it used to be the two three years now we are going back on traditions because it's like well if you have a better option than go to the better option I mean yeah sure you have a starting pitcher but if you have a better option and that this years ago and I'm someone who personally said like equality start six three let's call it seven and two that's a quality start seven to maybe something beyond that but chops are as prevalent as as important as they've ever been sure Jay your thoughts on a dueling bullpen game and Games which one of our horses or we're going to run out there for like the last two innings because he saying fuck it I'm not letting this ballgame get out of hand it we've got a chance to win I'm GonNa Max Scherzer by either team that the Yankees one or the astros loss or sorry the Yankees Lost Astros one because like the bullpen strategy didn't play off for the eight from some corner and this was like listen I just I get a lot of garbage on my feet like anybody else while I'm watching these games but like I saw some people blaming analytics quote unquote for the that they were looking in because there weren't a lot of people interested in those series Jerry X. Like when you're looking at free agency now and Tanaka was outstanding Severino it was just the Yankees didn't have an answer offensively it's not like the Astros returned the cover off the ball he hasn't done a fucking thing which has been disappointing the you know it was really just Jose Altuve a for the Astros offensively the Yankees I mean they had and for as much as everyone made about the Yankees rotation that's not will cost them the series either I mean you know Paxton showed up his second time around the perfect it's definitely trump and world series yeah yeah speaking of the world series the Houston Astros are moving on to face he's approach to this and if you wanna say that they made a mistake not going out and getting themselves a frontline starter at the trade deadline or in the off season that's a separate conversation to me they could've used for other guys that that could have helped contribute at least offensively but yeah at the end of the day I think even if you're a Yankee fan wants was the way to go and I know I didn't get a lot of controversy but I also think that the astros deciding to deploy their pen the way that they'd it is well saving Garrett Cole for game seven was awesome the right call yeah it was incredibly and honestly man like to me it wasn't a fault of strategy the hand that they were dealt themselves partially by themselves I think starting the game with their bullpen which we've been talking about as a strength of the team for months and months they just they didn't have what it what it took to stack up against Houston when Houston had homefield advantage of best of seven series. This and I'm going to go punch out the Sideburn inning let's move onto tomorrow like that's kind of healthy not now may why because you've got the ability to match up down there well and you also need to be able to be a messenger from that field to the front office and there's a difference between being a messenger and a pipeline shares a pipeline you have to be able to look at what happened in this series and acknowledged that the Astros were the better team you shouldn't feel slighted you shouldn't feel cheated is it a disappointment yeah I mean I think with with the way that the Yankees season played out they were dominant team from start to finish the regular season and get over the hump which is the Astros and so it should be an interesting off season for them do you think that if the Yankees back I like Scott Beuller any baseball agent now or you go to an arbitration hearing and you're you're a team that's trying to pay player less or you're an agent is trying to get your player more as you said remove that from them keep yourself essentially in the same spot up pensively and are adding to what you're I guess losing in C he's a free agents about the is retiring enroll mind whatever but they have some names that are coming up on free agency and Chapman can opt out a lot of it was basically Jose Altuve a and now is it I was incredibly disappointed in in Dallas mentioned earlier your Don Alvarez I thought that this postseason was going to be his coming out party a short you got DJ at second you can avoid it first and then Miguel Landa heart comes back to play third but even if you fix that or at least address just this is where hello who's there Mr Velocity that's who makes it real tough on you everybody down there has got ninety eight to one zero wiping out with secondary stuff so the man your free agent situation and you bring back the guys that you feel need to come back to to make another run at this you're still you know that you you're missing some pieces if you want to I mean obviously it's it's something you have to strongly consider because if this is somebody who shows up twice in a seven game set and drives that dagger in your heart both times and then up the brinks truck for Garrett Cole that's just the answer just one guy does that does that get them over the Hump I mean because it is you also are subtracting Garrett Cole from the Astros in the process we value on base percentage a lot more than we did before and guys are getting paid more money because of the on-base percentage and the OPN whatever else off home runs they are walk off home runs another question before we move on we were talking about this in the office today because they're the juice balls during the season yes there is some where do we go from here discussion I feel like we could we could talk about that too because you know you've got Dylan Betances as a free agent Gardner's a free agent D he's win the series because I mean I think that that's a very legitimate question to ask I am tempted to say yes I mean you would have to go back there's there's I don't I don't see it that way like it was tight it was a game that was tied through the first half of the ninth inning like this baseball right guys I feel like could come back Chapman Gardener I think betances could leave but I I in Didi if DD leaves they're still fine glacier moves six of the I I mean I thought it was the appropriate call I don't like I know there was some there was some complain it's very small yeah a normal baseball what might have been different and I even said I don't know maybe the Indians when the central not as good as the best team in the League or not as good as the team that you lost two in the and still be perfectly good enough to win the world series there was nothing I that was in there were to walk off home runs by the Astros in this series either one of those games just by sheer bounce of balls could go either way yeah twice four to nine plus feet in travel distance just based on the composition of the ball that dd it near homer off Garrett Cole in what was that game three that's gone that's gone with juice bowl definitely gone I mean that's hi this idea that this team was fatally flawed or anything like that it's certainly with with things bouncing a little bit differently game to goes differently like honestly Asian in that division if things stay the same for the Yankees as is right now and I mean the merge they were certainly like you you can be not yeah you have to think that you're in a pretty good spot because I don't know that there's really any I don't know there's any company it's fun to try to take away I mean I don't even know where that question came from I'm assuming it comes from a Yankee fan trying to find any way in clearly the balls are not juice in the postseason if the same baseball's were being used in the postseason do you think the on the youtube channel as well as starting podcast thrive with common she lets us know that there's probably somewhere roughly anywhere I believe from I don't either but if if you if you're building your team your roster on homers in power and then it's like you build that team all year Agean that we would you seek for our tickets because buying tickets can be complicated and confusing but there is a simpler way to buy and that is what seek seek as the Dave Portnoy has to either answer the phone or and or returnee text message and if that is the case then I think we'll have an doc and got the other thing that we were saying was if if they played the regular season with the baseball's that they're using in the postseason I don't know I guess I don't want to say it was too loyal because you know if you have John Carlos Stanton on your roster they wasted roster spots on Suburbia and Stanton career home runs the isn't strong these guys are strong enough to hit the baseball so I don't WanNa hear that Shit Yeah just an interesting thought yeah fuck could beat it answer 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Promo Code starting that is Promo Code starting for ten dollars off your first are playing with one baseball and then you go into the postseason and it's not the same juiced up ball and you've built this team based off of power and homers and you're not strong enough is just oh not the twins game was homers I mean I'm not trying to take anything away from the twins but I I don't know maybe does shake out a little bit different I it's to put the Yankees in the postseason well we were playing with the same base then we'll get a bugger that's my guess I do kind of sympathize with them though because and say the same about then you go into game situation like what was the score that's a whole lot of what ifs ask slow to what if's not to mention the is not strong enough or these guys is labor not strong enough is Dj not strong enough tell me earn Hicks isn't strong enough to listen to you telling me that Brett Gardner he of the SCEKIC helps you find the best seats at the best prices fully guaranteed nothing beats being there in person for the biggest player of the year and seek will get you closer to the the world series I don't know that's just rumors right now I have no idea what's going on with that but if we were to go to DC for one of the world series games I would shen for a great value I have the seek APP on my phone and it's by far the easiest way that I have found to shop for tickets I can be anywhere just a few taps I can instantly find seats seatgeek purchase we've laid the Yankees to rest here today but we gotta talk about this world series because these pitching matchups are as Dallas says they are skin fire worthy so j. hey well people people need to understand right now with this get into existence Dallas this is the series that I think the diehard baseball fan wanted to see these looks like meshed with a hybrid of young explosive talent that just doesn't give a fuck these days and can also needed because I think it's going to be a refresher for what what a brand of baseball that people are clamoring for sort of introduce this I guess new brand of baseball patients long ball we got some athletes folks we've got MVP candidates we've got cy young candidate I have confidence in this team to finish the job I don't think it's going to be easy I mean I I definitely think it's a it's a six game series at least cheered you WanNa know what sells tickets what's that patty cake doesn't sell tickets no no Ludvig champion the recent world series champion not defending but they've been there it's fresh could be the net stabilize I'll be honest Dallas or we're going to be the sheriff's the Astros are winning the world series again conflict sills tickets oh you got your Astros Corrobos Oh you're picking a fucking Nats Dallas the pitching matchups that that make create a October legends astras I got the Astros I think so I think that match Shire's I think that map shares tenacity I think that Stephen Strasberg's Stephen Strasburg it's on both sides in both dugouts right now if you can't get over this series right now you don't have a fucking heartbeat period reach speed you and your astros go up telling you right now said Greeky you better pack a fucking lunch Oh wow you better figure it out and I'm talking yesterday all right it's easy for sure I can agree with you and I've got three we got big three right we got Sherzer Strasbourg Corbin yeah you don't even doubt Sanchez either you take in which big three are you right now is it gonna be the is it going to be the nats the net stabilize prosper twenty-two such outings as well on the flip side of that Justin verlander horse twenty four outings talking about Justin bieber lender Garrett goes that Greeky you counter with Sherzer Strasbourg Corbin so I say to you gentlemen on the shut the ball absolutely is absolutely is but I don't think people are having the conversation you know about edible Sanchez and Wade Miley intoe when we're because to me smells like I don't know what smells like a smells like a paper here which I'll show you and Jay it doesn't line up with what I just said because that's no fun I say what I wrote let the nasty boys get too early they get too early corrobos like a name that could spell trouble that's a cute name like that that's Cute Plus Bullets Garrett Cole enough said twenty three of those same outings Zach Greeky and it's like a stinker for Stephen Strasburg and now does it really I know it a stinker smells like ain't happening Yankees all year like you knew you knew that the showdown was looming and they got it and and obviously wasn't a part of that all year but sure this is the bigger stage something right now that is Kinda true but I also will probably regret saying it but ten twice with Houston ten don't it could spell trouble I'm curious they've got coal lined up game one game two has that been confirmed yet yes Egypt right now by the way is on its best behavior hey guess douse you smell that it's on its best behavior douse smell that about Septum can you like playing and beating the Yankees is the bigger stage like I feel like if you're the astros like it's it's probably in your head like you've been thinking about the all right Sherzer eighteen ball games this year with a hundred pitches or more actually twelve in a row he went out and through one hundred plus pitches Stephen on both sides. MVP CANDIDATES ON MVP front runners essentially on both sides so that's why I said this is a series at the beginning it does I mean I think in a lot of ways this is the most attractive world series matchup that we could have gotten of an air let out of the tire on the National League side so people gravitated towards this series of the Yankees and Astros and then because I mean there wasn't a ton of height coming out of the NFL because the dodgers were the team that was going to be there and everybody was like I mean give me the dodgers can easily stay on the Astros Bandwagon there in my division dramatic sense for me to latch on to the Al Wes champion the American once that happened and that's are the ones who come out of the NFL and now you've got this young like I said you've got cy young candidates let's that's not their world series this is absolutely their world series the world series I understand that there was energy surrounding getting to the world series I would wonder is there any thought to Greeky and the struggles what struggles though I mean he only gave up one earned run reese has an opportunity to provide j. your thoughts on these these pitching matchups does it does it give you a little tinguely feeling office aid has let me tell you what these boys here Stephen Strasburg what the conversation that we were having was about which big three hour taking if I would show you to see you know plenty of other I think the Yankees would've been compelling at different points in the season but this this three or four man I'm sure it was in his head like a fuck I got a pin Yankee stadium like I feel like to them that was their world series and they handled it quite well I didn't need to watch severino potentially struggle through a game and just the bullpen bullpen. I didn't need that I wanted to be remembered what Asian on each side is just in terms of looking forward to each and every game there's something to latch onto and game looks like when it's done in a fashion that that looks like baseball or looks like what the game of baseball has resembled the tide hasn't changed that much pitching his important having great starting pitchers is really helpful to trying to get to the world series this why are you interested in this else I'd like to see them giving everything that they have I liked to see the potential for epic greatest went before any game starts like if Chad Green is on the mound usually a random tournament and a lot of these years because I've seen people talk about Oh you know the royals built the bullpen plan and that's out and now it's back to starting pitching I think you had no interesting you didn't know you needed you didn't know you wanted it and by the end of it it's going to be the series that you're like this is what I needed I needed every bit of this right now and that's no fun what else we'll tell you is you've got some guys in Strasbourg ensures or who are of the mindset that they want to get deep they wanna take that base last time I yeah it was like four and two thirds but he limited the damage quite a bit I mean it's it's for tooth and this is this is the bigger stage that was to get here game potentially looks like compared to a game and say I mean I I like to see these guys giving everything it's just like anything and always and they're plenty of cases for arguments for others you know getting Kunia and Albee's and those guys on the biggest stage that certainly would have been fun it would have been fun the Yankees I'm here for Gimme the dodgers and the Astros I'm here for didn't matter people didn't care well now the that is Kinda gone out the window I feel like there was sort of we can agree that that was the right strategy for the Yankee to also agree on the fact that like there is at least some level of mystique that is that is removed like in the recent past like today's baseball regular season baseball is very different I think postseason baseball something that a lot of people can remember and that's what this get stage aside from their talent level right what makes the starting pitching matchups exciting in terms of what the I don't think there's any denying that the Houston Astros bullpen has been as been wonderful for them aside from aside from the white beater right they do get an egg laid by one of those big three early on and are forced to go to that bullpen that has been great starting pitching matchups Jay why are you interested because those start those are the star players in youtube for these sports to see the best people at their best on the I think that the whole starting pitcher relief it like I think it's a mistake to draw broad conclusions over the results of what is said like two point four and a third or whatever one earned run from Greeky but is an outing like that something you I don't WanNa say plan for uh that's a bad example because there was a walk off home run in the bottom of the ninth inning in that game but like when Justin verlander and Stephen Strasburg or on the mound reassures her and garrison when he's on like I feel like you know we've kind of not we us as a podcast like you know the the people that are watching these these postseason games have forgotten just how four but something you defend against by way of supporting yourself with that off-day on the backside being able to give some of those arms that might have to cover you know his first star in the postseason which wasn't great and then like you know an okay to I guess subpar start against the Yankees is is taxing guys and and looking for more out of them if you were to run into a bump in the road early on tired because then I'd have to answer questions and then boom here he is on the precipice of and it's taken away from him and he's he's humbled he's humbled in a breed I've dealt with what I'm going to be dealing with you know from the nats fans I've been there like because the Yankee fans those are they are like any other fan base they're being sort of a I guess a letdown in energy maybe I zack in his mind thinking I'm not going to have to be dealing with that some things have been great we'll hairs Joe Smith guys have been sexy Yeah I just I think that's where trouble could start to arrive the way that they behave the shit that they say like you see the videos there's no punches pulled man they just don't care they just don't care so maybe there's something to that Zack's mind where he's like you know what dude isn't performance we're way beyond that regular season at this point and something you brought up was just the pitching against the Yankees and the anticipation of that I told you that twenty four twenty three for Coal Tinky the reason that I question her I'm curious about the Greeky performance is because and this is kind of damn man like Yeah J. We got some fucking questions we gotta tackle here the World Series is upon us Jay was in the kitchen cooking up some nuggets it's a completely different atmosphere a different ballgame I can get back to being me and tune in all these assholes out and slice and dice I hope that's the case I really do because sequence of those guys and and and here's the thing is if if if grew so just to give you the number one hundred Pitch Outings Justin verlander twenty four did I tell you fucking good Zach Cranky really is it's fun it's fun jer because he's got a personality that like when he's talking shit about the no hitter like on that would be twelve plus I I I honestly just think Fuckin- due to like we I I feel like too much being made about I believe that the Houston Astros have a more relentless offense and we have seen aw my turn yeah so this is where things get a little dicey for me because I let like if I kind of like cut off the three starter and I'm just like all right do you watch Sherzer do you want Cole I'm taking coal do you want Strasbourg do you want Berlin I'm taking land eating into some of the questions that you posed to us on the rundown is what is a concern I guess a concern for the Astros is what if they enough to get to those three before nationals offense would be able to get to moment where he's like yeah you know actually kind of would have been cool and I'm glad that that happened because I would love for him to get back to being the cocky asshole is like you know you can take your no hitter uh shit fuck I don't know as you want do you want me to go no I'm I'm sticking with the fucking I answer to one of them which front three of the rotation you taking right now Kover lander cranky or Sherzer Strasbourg Corbin. Let's get it on the record jared who's taken but really have to put in a blue collar effort and I think the Houston Astros offense might be just deep enough and just relentless so I am I am taking the Houston Astros Big Three Oh put up taking the shut up your ass I'm I'm just not doing the interview after that man on really good but I don't WanNa do that I like that guy I enjoy that mentality will there is a picnic to the story that could be told that just couldn't exist when we're talking about bullpen irs and six or seven relief pitchers trotting in throughout the game for later in the show but right now we get some questions we gotta take care of we sure do that was really one of them that was a long answer thorough thorough Max Scherzer at times dominate with ease and we've seen Max at times sort of I don't WanNa say struggle to dominate feel it's it's hard to pick the astros but then pick the nats rotation I sorta get what you're going I know Yeah Yup and they're just star players it's the reason we like to see one Soto like I want to see one Soto play I wanNA see Ronin Bregman Alto Vay and I also WanNa see the pitching I think you know what I'm GonNa stick with Juan Soto it's one soda why because it's I guess we'll save that for later I'm taking the Astros Who is the single most dangerous offensive player in this series in there you look at the wins above replacement he was like a top fifteen pitcher in the fucking league this year it's like yeah that's pointed dandy but like those are regular season numbers and that's regular just put a bow on my answer and factoring in what I mentioned to you jared about the mindset shift not face the Yankees facing a team that just doesn't it's not so I know it is just one guy because that's what the question a single most follow the rules if wile like if if you ask me if you were to phrase it differently right you have the nationals roster you have astros roster and those the only Indian has a good question I say there's two guys and it's like do you want Corbin did you want cranky I want Corbin but like two to one taken the Astros Jerry Hill but I feel like once Soto has just been consistent and I can I'm going to side with consistency here give me one Soto Fair enough as you can pick from you have a first round pick who taken I'm taking Bregman but he was cold in the AOL CS I don't expect that to continue it's it's obvious and you're right jeered and then I was going to transition to ren don't because it's guys that have don't give a shit has been on Alvarez that's my guy every single time that you're done Alvarez came up to the plate and that series against the Yankees Assignment Duterte lucky to have me to boy lucky I chose to show up to four years the most dangerous hitter in this series in how the combative Fan Base Ghost there's no ghosts you're not battling with a very very very good team but but if there's one guy on both sides and I'm just like trying to will into existence like let's see the guy that we saw all season the three of adjust overlander a Garrett Cole and again that Green Tea is the wildcard here but I active in what name arose it was Carlos Correa why Carlos Correa because he's been hitting at the bottom of the lineup but he's been hitting behind another a young man who has struggled mightily as well and that is the most important player offensively in my mind I was heavily Wayne on one Soto and it's obviously because of the glaring hole I to take in when he lays into a ball when he leans on one it it is it's special to watch and the Sal Oh so I'm sticking with the Stroz Garrett Cole is the best fucking pitcher on planet Earth Jv right behind him Zach Cranky Arrow I'm going to get from him in this series I really don't and he just it just never happened I I'm not saying like okay so that is going to happen in the world series it's only GonNa get more difficult with with the three hundred monster that the nats have because it's easy to pick an L. Tubay springer I think the guy who was really helped this lineup stay as long as it has all year long it's guys that were in the world series I didn't realize that Anthony don't give a book and it was because it's your Don Alvarez he's so fucking fun to watch when he's hot and he just hasn't been hot talk season it's a ridiculous physical visuals lcs if you're playing like that is bad obviously both very dangerous my pick is Alex Bregman Okay John Alvarez had one of the All Time Bad LCS performances one for twenty two with twelve strikeouts normally you don't get that many at bats and the world series combined to go four thirty eight with Nineteen strikeouts in the Lcs Juan Soto Lcs three for sixteen with seven strikeouts quote unquote if you had to pick one for the Astros and one concern for the nationals bullpen for the nats that's an easy one la maybe it's not glaring is it fair to say glaring in regards to the performance for Soda Yes okay he he is has been good to but I mean there's a lot of right handed threats in that Astros Lineup for Houston that's the guy that you're going to have to rely on to kind of pick up the slack right so then I ventured over to the astros land and I started thinking about it from that kind of same how did you phrase the question the weaknesses yeah just a weakness or a concern of yours in twenty six total plate appearances eighteen at bats so obviously all of the skills that make Alex bregman either the MVP or the runner up in the AL the they become dangerous why maybe because they haven't been sure sure injured the dead cat bounce I get it because my guy would be yeah I think I think just based on how you laid that Al j what jared and I did was probably pick somebody that needs to perform like this person performs I was like this is the bat this is the at Bat I like if he was going to snap out of it I was like this is going to be four hundred eighty foot tank and then he's going to go springer if that's the case well first pitch I think tough I think Bregman unpicking some Altoona or some guy who's been Super Hot Alex I'll never accuse you guys have recency bias given that the two people you just picked as the most dangerous in the LCS have combined to go four or the most and even with thirty forty thousand people in the building it's going to sound different folks it is trust me it's just so different so I will picking MBP candidate nobody Julius came off L. C. S. whereas branch is zero homers one rbi he had very weird lcs he had a one sixty seven. There's no like go to Yankee Stadium and they're like on top of you

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Best Of (Tom Brady, Lamar Jackson, Matt Rhule + Joe Judge, Kyle Kuzma, Mike McCarthy)

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

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Best Of (Tom Brady, Lamar Jackson, Matt Rhule + Joe Judge, Kyle Kuzma, Mike McCarthy)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jenny Taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip Shannon. Let's go here's the guys we finally heard from. Tom Brady Brady after his season came to an end brady posted a lengthy message on instagram this morning thanking the fans for their unconditional support Brady Brady ended the post by saying quote. You don't always win. You can however learn from that failure pick yourself up with great enthusiasm and place yourself in in the arena again. And that's right where you will find me because I know I still have more to Peru Shannon funny read into this I look I I think when he said it was highly unlikely that he's going to retire. Skip I think everybody thought that he would becoming back now. The question is is he coming back to New England at the. That's what everybody really wants. I agree if he had said yes. I'M GONNA be back in the Patriots Uniform Patriots nation but we well Yada Yada Yada. Okay now we own the something for for this is basically saying look. I still believe I can play. I still believe I can play at a high level. I still believe I can help. Some team reached the ultimate destination. Which is the Super Bowl? So this is what I thought you know what Tom Brady. Always say. It sends a whole bunch of nothing. Say That yeah I still can play. I still believe I can plate. That's a bunch of nothing. He skipped he said that Saturday night it wasn't this definitive. It was I think and I hope I'm GonNa Comeback Comeback Question. Are you play like plays tonight. Let me ask you a question. You're going to have any help will Tom Brady is get better for the last three years. You went up there and he pointed at three guys Georgia. Yeah you you you come on needed today in. All three of those guys were hurt on Saturday night and he had to pick three more and like they've never even played football so in other words. If Tom Brady can no longer do more with less he's no longer the same guy by correct. That's all I won't be able to say I've been saying skip it in the past. He's at least had some pass protection in the past at least had some running game he had neither either this year and they never get. They said Tom Brady is getting rid of the ball. So quick. Look at Joy Botha was saying man. You gotta hold onto the ball. Tom Reopen is gonna every a beeping now all of a sudden. It's hard to get rid of quick when nobody can separate from press coverage so a defender is nose to nose with with you and he's trying to get the ball out in two point five seconds and you have no time to separate because you can't so in other words even though these guys weren't Julio Jones they weren't Antonio Brown Danny Amendola and enjoying adamant they created Hogan they were pretty good. Then we'll better than what people apple gave them credit for because remember. It was all Tom Brady in how he was doing more with less now that he has left and he can't do more what if skip bayless love will he did have this guy named Gronkowski became Matt Lacoste. Sore Benjamin Watson aged thirty nine so the Guy Gronkowski that that was injured when Brady orchestrated the second greatest comeback in playoff history but the greatest playoff in super bowl history. He did that without that if he's the guy to tape about. What is telling me that you should still be able to remember? Brandin cooks check gave him. I didn't give it away. But he sent him away for first round yet right Brennan because got hurt and what in Philly really game. Okay approve of. I WANNA yards member Malcolm Mitchell. He caught a bunch of balls. uh-huh yes seven for seven in that range right hurt. His knee gone for good. Okay no weapons. Nobody's left colored bear. All I'm I'm saying is this your Brady was still the same guy. He could do more with less but because his play has slipped somewhat skip. I didn't say he stepped off a cliff but everybody that watches Brady realizes except the ones that WanNa make excuses why he will. Maybe he's tired and he's not having Roy or he got a foot injury. He got maleable injury. He got this or that. If you just evaluate Tom Brady father. Time waits on no man he's coming and instead of Brady is forty two. He's not the same guy so he needs more help so if he needs more help automatically that tells you he's not the same guy because because for the longest he could do it. witless okay but if you put Patrick Mahomes. This year's Patriot offense. He would have had a long hard frustrating. Nobody ever say. Patrick Mahomes does more with less. Nobody has said that they said that about him. I've said he does less with more occasionally John Les Lost Two Straight Games. I don't know they gave Tom Brady the edge over peyton manning because he had Reggie Wayne he had Marvin he had owls. Clark and Pete Manica Steel beating with Lesser Missile relievers. Okay now okay. Guess what's happening in spite of what you're saying. He's close to being finished and he needs more help. There's a groundswell swell out there of how about Tom here. How about in going there? How about Tony Dungy? Yesterday campaigning. Alba campaigning out loud. Tom Com to Indianapolis applets. I don't think Tom Wants to live in Indianapolis but I could be surprised. Because Tony's case was we have everything he needs. We have one of the best offensive lines. We have a very good running back. We have a fast group of series. We have a pretty good defense. Why not come here Tom? Skill and when you evaluated you look at the charge. You look at Indy. But here's the thing that he has. When I heard people say well is not about the ring that think? It's absolutely about that because he has to win the he has to be better than coach. Bela village she is. The only thing I mean next year is all about a range his whole career moving forward because he does not get a ring. What will people people say skip? It was all chick system so tom understands okay. Then he gets from out from under this umbrella. He can't get wet okay so Tom. Senses the ground L.. Swallow up there because our man terrel owens even tweeted yesterday to Dallas. Let Dak go because he's and bring in Brady and Ab Antonio Brown tweeted the other day. I ONLY WANNA play for Tom Brady wherever he goes. I want to go there. Obviously he couldn't go back to New England with Tom. Okay so there's a groundswell so so how do I interpret this post. And it's a long post which I encourage everybody. Go read the whole thing. But there's a lot of past tints early in it. That sounds like he's thanking Gene Patriot nation and Patriot fans who attended the game for all their support in it sounded past tents sounded. Like I'm leaving but thank hugh very much now. Tom Is Shrewd operator. He might also be sending a message. You know sort of dropping the gauntlet for both kraft and Belichick How are you going to respond to this? I'm going to play next year and it looks like he's leaning toward playing elsewhere so again you could say that. He's for the first time time in his patriot. Life he is now negotiating. Saying who you're going to side with Robert Kraft Yup. We're GONNA take me back or do you want him back and it sounds like it's a hammer meat but because he doesn't have social media so he doesn't have my book or Net jazz whatever he was trying to explain the different platforms or social media. AH yeah I'll have either so somebody's GonNa have related this coach Belichick. Did you see what Tom tweeted or different Mr craft will know instead he will care for him. It's crap is up to date on stuff like this cowbell. Jake is already plotting and planning how you scheming how will vote mode. That is correct Mr Craft as we speak is trying to read between the lines of what's going on here and now he's in the line of fire because was it. The onus is now on him. It's like whose side are you going to this time. Two years ago he picked. Tom gives us almost like like mediation. You you got coach Belichick on one side. You Got Tom Brady on the other. and Mr Cramp is the mediator. And so he's going to have to like he's going to have to be the the voice of reason here we're going to have somebody is going to be ticked off either way. Skip into the hardest thing is to be to work with someone that you ticked off with. Just remember if Tom Brady does go to Los Angeles chargers if he goes elsewhere. It's going look bad. For Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick is just. It would just make them look bad like they lost or they ran him out of town because they didn't give him enough support support. Yeah we gave him support. I mean at some point in time. There's only you've already replace the engine. You've already already given the new gun twenty years out of the car. How many more you get? More Robert Kraft as the owner of the Patriots has experienced twenty a years of glory. He has been one of the most beloved figures in the history of Boston Areas England sport. But guess what happens if you keep holding on to a guy and you keep missing out on opportunities you spend twenty years in perpetuity. Okay I hear you. But what did Robert Kraft. Say Saturday to Peter Peter King. He said we hope we fit in. Tom's plans going forward. But what did he give. You gave the two options. He would either play with us next year or retire. We'll tom just drew a line in the sand. I am not going to retire Mr Craft. This is for Mr Kraft's sick I'm going back in the arena. I'm going to dare to be great. Did he borrowed the Teddy Roosevelt Long. Okay so here. We go because Robert Kraft. He's not giving him the option. Who Do you do know? Only only in Hollywood's does heroes perfect indie. Everybody wants that that stray hand that John. Elway that you're on your own. Get to play in his hometown of Detroit. The bus stop blowing up in his doctor. Detroit it was. Everybody wants their guilt. But you know how this normally is black even our best heroes. It doesn't end whale. Show me a hero array tragedy. Speaking of Hollywood what Tom Brady ends with two super bowls for the chargers while living in Beverly Hills or Brentwood Indy. And they you got the best offensive line. They got left tackle left guard as an all pro. Got Senator Reid Garwin Loda and skill position that is going to probably move from e Brahma Jack. I'm just afraid. Giselle offense indie but she would say. I don't do Indianapolis who radio. I'm afraid. Remember when Giselle wanted him down a couple of years so-so clearly she's losing out. You don't have the clouds right. She doesn't have the pool that that that a lot of people thought she had because she wanted to retired. Oh nine after three number eleven twelve years later. So that was skipper him. If he's going to defy her in continue you to play and maybe they don't Wanna use the word defy but if they've come to a resolution that she she's Ok within play he has to look at the the best lifestyle is thrown out the window. What gives me the best chance to win? I got to skip skip. Payton had the perfect storm. He had to marry his Thomas in his prime air. Deccan second prime. Julius Thomas has just started off is it Ryan played at left tackle a defense. That was Champ Bailey. Chris Harris Junior Bob Bill Derg will believed every new Shama. Ah Everything we was the perfect storm. Okay I believe he added a bear similar situation probably in indy because the office of line because they can run the football oh they got skill positions on the outside now. Their defense is not as good as Denver's were but with a few pieces here there it might and guess what you're indoors Houston's indoors Jacksonville you get one cold game it all depends on when you play the titans building so it could be a very very good situation for him. I get. La Going that new stadium. He'll be a media. He'll be a advertisement. Endorsing Donald to me. The chargers have more all star talent than the the colts have. But what about skip. He's not great. You'd have to beef that. Yes yes I would agree but I think they have have more potential to be great than in does overall star power and. I think it might be hoping that what you call them. Andrew lucked out the year of being fresh. You know he can come back. And then that would render this moot but it seems to me from his from his tweet or post the word hobby he got this out socially is that he's coming back where he's coming back. Is I think the million dollar question and I'm sure Mr Crab wants back in that uniform coach Belichick i. I believe wants him to move on. Because coach Belcher wants to move. I would agree all I know for sure it is. I believe he will not play for the Patriots again. I believe that will be his choice not. Mvp Front runner Lamar Jackson while he ran through the league. This season setting the record record for most rushing yards by. QB Lamar will now have a chance to get his first playoff win on Saturday. Titans head coach Mike at high praise. For Lamar Marsan quote. They have the best player in the League who is impossible to tackle. We're now joined by Fox sports. NFL analyst James Harrison. Good morning the morning James. True or false. Lamar Jackson is he really impossible to tackle. I wouldn't say he's impossible to tackle because that would mean that you know is not able to occur exist to be done but he is very very difficult to get down. According to pro football focus. He is the second most allusive player of all players not quarterbacks of all players the James this is something else that I saw. Listen this is something that I saw. He actually is the third most yards after contact. You know WHO's number one Derrick Henry. Good so I believe that. Yes so it's definitely you know. Want to be a difficult task to do but I feel like if they if if they come in with with with the right plan they'll get it done and honestly to me. I believe you have to just just hit him when you go into that. Read option. Look the quarterback quarterback loses autos protections. And you actually saw with Pittsburgh the last game of the season where they just kept hitting the hidden. Rg Three right. And you hear the announcers. Oh that's not legal. You can't and do it yes you can you no longer have to sit there and wait to see. If he's handed the ball off. Now I get to hit him so for me. It would be. Don't break down because you got at a fifty percent chance of missing him anyway through run through him shooter gun you and let's hope we get enough. Hits on him that at some point in time. Either the coaches or he he says look we need to stop doing rerun. I'm getting hit every time rather I had a ball or not. Okay so your mindset going into a playoff game against this guy is. I'm going him with all. I got every chance I I'm going to read that I have whoever's on a right or left which goes that guy. Your job up is to hit him no matter what I do not care what's going on. I'm a science and wanted to dive other than that. You hit him. You no longer have to wait and see. If he has the the ball he could be two three steps away and you still get to hit him. That's like the full about. If you fake to the running back he comes through the whole. He makes it to yards down in the linebacker smashes awesome. He doesn't have the ball. It's no penalty. He gets that same treatment. Okay and what if he play fakes and drops back to pass. What's your mindset? Now is a pass you going you already in key going okay. And what if he gets outside you if he gets outside me how you shoot. I'm hoping that either. He's going to have to jump bubble out do something so that some way shape or form pursuit can get to. You are not going to win by trying to get hitter. Narendra artists breakdown shake. Shoot your gun. If you miss license kidding to pause John move slide. Do something that gives is my players desperate enough time to try and get there now. You might be shooting. You'RE GONNA wind up with two handfuls of grass everytime as possible but to see people not I shoot a gun and you end up. He's not impossible but he's very difficult to get on the ground. You just gotTA rally guys to the ball you try to keep him out of the middle of the field you let him in the middle of you got no chance. So you're going to try to push him to the sideline because you use the sideline of the next independent but you gotTA rally guys to the ball knowing. Basically I'm telling my defense I know one guy's not going to get him down so I don't care how good of a tackler that you think this guy is. I need more than one guy in pursuit of Lamar Jackson. And that's the only thing you can hope for skipping like James said you gotta put you look. He the quarterback when he passed the excuse me when he's passing the ball but if he he put dive this ball in the belly the moment he does this and not this. He's a runner and I'm hitting him. I'm the hitting every time I it's not my fault. That's that's that's all offense that you chose to do this. That's true so you got to punish them. You got to try to deter. But now they're too far. You know you're not gonNA you're not GonNa term now. They're too far in skill. But that's the only the way you can do it. You've got to punish you got a point if the quarterback and make it make and try to those hopefully accumulate over the course of the game. You don't we'll do it cheat you understand that. He's a at that point in time. Get either running back either running back long as he's not in past position he's running back and that's just AH angles. You gotta be pinpoints and when you play a team like this you must do your responsibility. Don't try to be no hero now. Warmer play both of them died right because if you let this guy side he jumps out the window he he get Tam fifteen yards before you guys can realize what's going on. Play your responsibility. You must be very sound when dealer would have a guy like is I want to be very clear. Neither of you are advocating hurting him. I'm not GonNa you. No I think Greg Williams not degrade wings but there will be defensive coordinator as you say. Knock him out of the game. But you're advocating just wearing him out Albany. Hit you enough where you know that die will start getting sore. Okay I got you so my take on. This is the Oakland Way to stop the quote unquote running quarterback. Is You just hit him in the pocket. You just making beat you with his arm the problem with this quote unquote running quarterback is. He can kill you with his arm. He is deadly accurately deleting touchdown. Pass that is correct with a quick release in an even quicker. Mind me because he he speed reads like crazy every decision. I've seen him make almost air. There've been covered but he makes deadly accurate decisions with where to go with the football. Like like that right that quick with the ball in and he's making such good decisions then the idea of let's just keep him in. The pocket doesn't work doc anymore right and if he does get a little outside the pocket your problem becomes again. I've called him all year until I saw Derrick Henry Saturday night. He's best running back doc in football but the problem with this running back is he can also throw the football so if he's on the move and you're trying to as you say breakdown where you're you're done if you break down but you have to break down at some point because he can still throw the football right so you're waiting. Is he going to throw it or is he gonNa just run past me. And if you have any split-second indecision he's he's going to be passed you. You're taking that away from you. I'm not that option soon as you get the read run the dive run. Whoever's on that side your job is to create your care about nothing else? Sometimes the the the Mesh point it is so deep in the backfield. I don't think you can get there in time. The ball's GonNa be handed before you can just go smash you still get to hit me. Okay but you gotta be careful going to get still get to hit him okay. I'm trying to tell you that. Like if that was the running back and he faked it to him and he kept the ball and running back like you said a mess. The point is so deal. He still gets a yard or two dollars into the into the linebacker smashing. Because he's not going to be blocked you you have to choose am. I'm going to dive down here. Am I gonNA go running a quarterback quarter you take you take an end. Says I don't want you to worry about that. Divac your guys if the quarterback and when you rush the guy you we always do on his up your shoulder you know because more times than not he wants to. He wants to escape to aside. Yes so you know you're GONNA attack from up your shoulder skip the thing about him in a guy the pocket is now. You're asking you defense for one week. Is the play defense. They're not used to play. You'll Russia normally say. Go get the quarterback. Now we want you to get but we want you to level off off. Don't run pass him. That's not my instinct. My instinct is to try to get the quarter to try to rush you and knowing and that's code memory coach Belichick tried to like okay. We're GONNA stay bag. We're GONNA try to hear him up in the pocket but okay the dive now he just killing you with the dia- because you lied. You lied to just trying to see what he's going to do. You got to play your defense in. Hopefully your guide will rally to the football up. You can get enough hat surrounding that you can get him Dow but you're asking an awful lot for one week we're going to change what we've taught you all through. Ota's all through training minicab training camp and what we done for sixteen seventeen games now just for this game. We're going to have this type of game plan. You ask an I'm awful lot All I know is this young. Man is virtually unstoppable him. I don't know a plan whereby except your plan. Where you you can say strategically we can do? Usually the league figures you out. We're going to throw this new look at you. I don't know if there's a new look that can stop him. Were they played. They played a lot of mickle. And I'm sure that's what they're gonNA probably season will probably play put safeties on the field. Yeah that match up somewhat with athletically Navy because you you try to play your base defense and I know Rashad Evans is very good. But you don't want your life back trying to tackle this guy in space. That ain't that is not anybody. Can that guy can tackling patriots in space right and left the pressure. They got a wiggle. This the thing is you just can't allow him to do both you have to take away. Yeah Yeah and if you allow him to do both then you're not gonNA be defend anything. I want you to try and get to him. Punish him as much as you can so that they revert back to him being a quarterback and not having to worry about everything else. That goes along with Lamar Jackson. Then we have a better shot at winning this. I know one way to stop him. Gil Big let him go for one hundred in eighty two yards and control the clock and keep a Lamar on the side. We guess what Arabia they lead to leave your Russia control to keep their big old but on the sideline twos the life. Oh five possession games top one eighty two. It was pretty special from him. But this is GonNa be fun when C. J. Appreciate your time as always he's known mercy. Panthers owner of a temper is all in his first coaching. Hire temporary first year. NFL coach Matt rule a whopping a seven year. Sixty two million dollar contract yesterday and temporary also had high praise for new coach. He said that rule could be the panthers version. No shortly after the rule news yesterday yesterday the giants are reportedly making Patriots special teams and wide receivers coach. Joe Judge Their next head. Coach judge has three super bowls under his belt with the Patriots. Hey traits but neither coach has any head coaching experience in the NFL. So Shannon which was a more surprising higher rule were judge Joe Jr not even close at least Matt Rule can say I was a head coach. I Bill College Teams Temple. They had one to where the first year and then by the third year they had tin wins Same thing with Baylor one win and first year thirty had eleven wins so he can save what I did build a college program I did call plays. I was a head coach which I did oversee everything that has to do with football team but the judge every you know goats bill. Roth's everything coach. Bela especially specialty. So you Cadillac. Oh sabe within the defense. DVD's he that's what he coaches and it seems to me is that the giants have really turned into it because you look at their higher skilled they went back to Shurmur Gioja. I don't think anybody thought like yeah. That's that's that's who they should. I don't think anybody's looking at it. Like wow they really hit it out. The park with these is like they. They got it spot on with a coach complement and then after that they just like whatever I don't I don't get this if I don't get George I don't get Maroubra. Hey David Tipper for him to do so he can knock so he dropped ten hall of famous because he really understand what. Pittsburgh burkhead brash old. In the Hall of Fame Simmons Hall of fame the two wide receivers and running back franklins. A Long Time Pittsburgh yes he does. Okay yeah so good luck with that right now you might have one hall of fame on your roster and that might be that might be the linebacker Luke equally so you got to get about eight more because this is his first hire owner skip. I believe he gave too many years. That gave gave too much money. But Hey if this is only that if it's not your guy and you have to get as many as six million about the guy out so to sixty million on top of the six million educated. The Bio and the incentives can be pushed to ten annual ten million a year man. That's a lot of bread. Not but I gotta right. He's done his homework. He gave Ron Rivera. Set number wins that he wanted Rivera. Did he fired him knowing that he was gonNA move on so he started the process early. Hopefully he got everything he will. But I'm I'm shocked at the judge higher in New York skip. I am shocked I'm even more shocked. Doc by Matt Rule and to your point about the new owner tepper. They hit it off personally to the point that WANNA tempers quotes. Yesterday was that we're a lot alike. He meaning Matt Rule Dresses. Like you know what in sweats all over himself just like me. That's how I am. I dress like you know what what in I sweat all over my so they connected on that level sometimes. That's what happens in these giles. Right and he's a good guy because he's as with a personal trainer or something you can get meets win. But I've been telling you for two weeks I don't get mad. Ah Rule. It seemed like a runaway media creation of a story. But I'm going to remind you if I'm reading the tea leaves correctly. The giants were poised to hire matt rule. Until he at the last second said. I'm not even GonNa come talk to you. They were going to hire. I don't know if they had foam comrades but it sounded like he was their number one target and that they've panicked. These are the New York football giant order of tone. They panicked and said okay. We'll take these special teams slash wide receiver coach off the bottom of staff. What yes you will not Josh Make Daniels no or obviously obviously they weren't GonNa go with The D. coordinator because that's son Jerod Mayo? 'cause obviously too young but you did hill the job. I don't get it like I said. They had hired Aaron Judge to coach better job. Maybe New York thing how come on seriously I I have no idea. They're making Mike McCarthy. Looks like the right thing Matt Rule. Why would I interview? What's it like? The giants are going to be able to match the as far as years and money will not after that how you wish your time dealing away and he goes somewhere. I'm GonNa say this again. I remain a huge fan of urban. Meyer Meyer I know. He works for our network. But that's not why I'm a huge fan of his. He Won Hugely at Utah at Florida. WPRO higher state. He won National Championships. He's a guy big guy he's he's that Guy Right. So if you hire urban Meyer fire. It's a little high risk but it's high reward. Because I I would bet my money that urban Meyer could win big and pro football and urban one skipped. He wanted to talk for the two top five power conferences in all football. Right you see in the big ten he did. He's coached in the biggest games in college. Football and one the biggest game of Hollywood the ball. I give that rule turning around temple but he did it in relative obscurity. Nobody was tracking Matt rental at Temple. Nobody really really cared on the national scene. Okay so then he goes to Baylor. He takes over a scandal racked program. But listen I have covered the big twelve south and the southwest conference for years and years. And I know it Baylor can recruit. It's right in the heart of Texas and trust me going back to Mike Single Terry. Sorry they have been an NFL pipeline at Baylor in Waco Texas look at the athletes. They had on their team. This year. They're loaded did with receiver. I watch them because they have to. Wide receivers who are going to play on Sunday and the point is that yeah you can turn turned around quickly because it was really great a couple of years before you got there. They were a powerhouse so the cupboard was bare. Don't tell me it was bare. It was scandal. Endel Rack Rhino about all that and it costs the previous coach's job as royal showdown threat. Okay but then Matt rule winds up in the biggest game of this year. Which I'm going to watch because I'm a university of Oklahoma Fan? He's got a home game against Oklahoma with a thirty one to ten halftime lead and they blow it and they lose at home. It's impossible the loss that they took. What did what what does temper think of? That reminded. Observe you dress like Swiss lot. Okay so do you like that. Adversity that he fought through will then he got another shot at Oklahoma in the big twelve title game went to overtime but he lost again and then did he go. Shock Georgia and the Bogan the sugar. Nope he did not. Okay so what did you do exactly to deserve run away a acclaimed as the hottest. He was the hottest candidate on the market. If me out I can't help you out is hard for me to imagine that the giants were so enamoured Namur in blown away with the interview. As opposed to Chris Rashard. It's hard it's hard for me to imagine that's no way. He's a special teams coach. The added wide receiver cleaver to his responsibilities this year. And then what happened what And met let's give them like I said at least give David temperatures world. The Guy has been a head coach. He has oversaw Zine in operation your day to day Nice not the NFL the NFL is a totally different. Totally different ballgame. But he has been he has been a head coach but a guy that has no head coaching experience. No coordinator your experience and he gets badge up. I mean you talk about the The giants and the packers and the bear you talk about. You WanNa Stone France outlet difficult to get the they're supposed to get like Jerry says we get whoever we won't DIJANA ask. The franchise should be able to get whomever they won't. Yeah well they're going to get Jason Garrett is the coordinator. Maybe you'd think Begbie my boss now report that that was only true if it was for the head. Coaching job wasn't actually position. Okay so they just hired the equivalent of Daniel Jones as their head coach right because Daniel Jones was a bolt out dot com. was he a little better than and I thought he'd be. Yes yes I'll give you that you see the answer. I'm not so sold on that but it came completely out of left field and this came out a right field. I I just skip. I don't get it but I'm talking about all of a sudden. Yeah I mean prior to him getting the job or you start. Hearing his name was on the rate I heard nobody mentioned written and now he's got the job at the giant. I sue me at one thing and one thing only going for. I'm pretty sure Bella. Check endorsed him yeah. I'm sure there were some conversation between somebody from the mayor of family in Belle de Beers as you would endorse it. How would you like this job? We we give you ten in year. One hundred and fifty million okay. Two hundred well. If crafts sides with Brady he might be Belgium. Might be looking for another job whether it's too late. It's it's too late now. The already already had the vacancies. No no more vacancy wonder. If Cleveland is attempting to lure Belco cleave coach Belichick. COACHELLA TAKES ONLY GOING BACK TO CLEVELAND DAKOTA GIFT CLEVELAND. Never going back there. I used to think very shocking but not so much any judges even more chocolate. Lift up their bill. WHO's the most I mean as far as higher that you remember to say the Last Twenty Years for head coaching job? This got to be number one. I'd have to comb back memory but it's up there. I mean I'm telling you Matt rules up there for me as house was Cliff Kingsbury element to thank you guys fail and they get promoted fall. Upwards yeah I I knew I didn't cover Baylor. I know a lot of people speak very highly of him but even in his quote it felt like the right fit. Come in and build a program that feels like called triple it does knows is a franchise. This isn't even the quota like no. No this is the big leagues right in that job. He got because they're talking about long long term so he's not on a short. Yes lead the six to be up to the whatever deal slow all here all right. Anthony Davis went down hard last night and may Miss Miss Their upcoming two game road trip. Eighty is reportedly going to travel with the team. However Kyle Kuzma is expected to pick up more minutes and most likely start? If eighty a sideline there have been reports. that the kings have engaged in talks with the Lakers to trade for Kuzma. Leaving his future with the Lakers really in question right now Fox sports. NBA analysts crisper. Sarda is with us now. Good to have MAC combat yes. So here's the thing of eighty does miss the next two games games. How big are those games for? Kuzma and really is future with the Lakers. Well look obviously. There's a reports about him being traded. When I'm told is they're just doing due diligence? They understand stay his importance to the team. But if they can find a guy that fulfils their needs of a playmaker a three point shooter and a perimeter defender lender which is a tall order. You I'll only. AD and Lebron of course are untouchable. Now bow down by Donovan which is interesting because his numbers are very similar. Coups Mus and he's used to come in off the bench with leads me to my main point to answer your question if coups more or less say doesn't isn't play these next two games and coups averages twenty six points a game or whatever. I don't think that changes his standing with the Lakers. Because they know if as the second option to Lebron he can go out and get you twenty something points. The question is can he accept his role vis because he's not the second option as long as these health right so can't accept the role as the guy off the bench and be that third guy and shine and excel so in that role for the last few years. Coups has been able to play kind of haphazard basketball winning. You're losing team. You shoot when you want your take bad shots and all that now. He has to adjust to one coming off the bench but to playing more winning basketball shots elections better and things like that. And so that's where he's adjusting so actually he might help us. Standing Morph did play. Coups came off the bench and played well off off the bench so again I think he probably remains with the Lakers past the deadline. But what he's got to show them as he can play winning basketball. The ball better shot selection and maximize those minutes. All depends what he's trying to do. Now is calm. Jam His eighteen and nineteen points a night in ten fewer. You were minutes fewer shots right. And that's the challenge so he's got to accept that role in accelerate and. That's why I think it's going to be huge. Because what he hasn't been they would do a show that he could be that third option. Give them eighteen to twenty nine in this role Lou Williams he must turn himself into Lou Williams Lou Williams can be the starter tray of heroin can be a starter but they come off the bench and you know dog knows on a nightly basis. I'm getting eighteen to twenty two between these two guys. Well this Kacoos is now because as you mentioned he was playing thirty three minutes last year. Down to twenty three so now he's he's condensed and tried to get the same production Jim in two minutes gift. And he's not that a fisher. Kevin Durant can do that but he's not K. D. he's not that unofficial of a player so now he he like he come via. Oh birth. Johnny get the ball. Oh he shooting. It's going to give you know that he's always GonNa right right right. And that's what they want him him to try to rein that in so even if he can't give you three and even if he had all those other things two or three might not be bad. I liked the predominant kid. Out of sacramental the middle. If that's going to be a swat hit up or something like that but also there was something that happened last week and we talked about it. We we talked about it. And if you bring it up I was gonna Budo Budo wide trailer. Say Yeah Yeah. Yeah I saw cleaning KUZMA's trainer coups. You think that was a reference to Lebron Google. We cool said. Call the spade now. If my trainer says something I can go to Lebron V. Monroe control what he said but about trying to send somebody will call fleet. What did it was who was referred? 'cause obviously right. He didn't tell him now. What I'm always add? You may have been told the same thing Lebron you know. We know. Reportedly they've made up. There's no issues there I will say this and I'm told Lebron's fine coups all right. There's no issue. But even if he does have an issue with him we have to admit Lebron's always put business ahead of personal feeling Gilbert being the biggest example. If you ah what he loved Lonzo he loves to help me when the ship so he'll put personal feelings aside if you've you've got a championship because guess what he loved the way but he loved the way but in Miami. Go back to Cleveland because at the end of the day go day care about one pain. Hey winning well that's why or scoring in the fourth art unless they get a deal that makes them better without coups. Lebron Bertarelli be even if he feels. Oh yeah sorry. Mark maybe Washington just wants to get rid of Ali meal. I want him. They got him. But I don't think Lebron's is going to push him out the door to get. I gotta go back to Williams analogy. Here's where it does not work worked for me Lou. Williams has earned six man of the year when he steps on the floor. The other say you're the first option as opposed to what cousteau who's my has not earned so listen win-lose on the floor. Trust me even Kawai and Paul Georgia's new teammates to like go. Go ahead good. You do it right. So there's no threat there because he's earned his place in rotation. which is it's weirdly? He's like a starter who comes off the bench right because he's GonNa play starter's minutes word Popovich did which nobly bring him in and just changed the whole game all of a sudden but with this kit I still. I'm on record. I Love Love Kyle. Kuzma what he's made of he might not fit here but they need him to fit. Because I still believe this team needs a closer and he can meet the closer. He's he was born with the mentality of a closer where he he has. No memory of the last minute. He just keeps shooting in his light. Green light that's all these seasons green any s with immediately. Forget that I just shot an air ball in the next time. The problem with Frank. Boba won't uh-huh okay gotta find a balance okay. So the problem here is that Lebron. Ad Need to consider him a first-option adoption in crucial stretches of the fourth quarter. And I don't know if they'll ever live with that not going to be good to go to the picket role or they go to eighty posting up. That's ask the first option. Lebron is second okay. I hear where you're coming from. Because he does have that mentality and I like that any but as you say. He's not that efficient fishing. So can he be your you have to with it. I've seen him go crazy in fourth quarters and just carry what you saw quarter gift on Christmas. Yeah he just changed the game for the first the first quarter the first quarter he came in and got fifteen in nineteen at the half in remember. I I was on fire but he was even off. It might have been the second quarter. He got in Dallas that big Friday night affair the first time they played listen. Kuzina was sensational. Sation in that game making big shot times last year at Boston remember just went nuts making threes. He can finish game like he's not gonNA start but he can unfinished. They're not against him being in that. Finishing the thing is is that look branding is a better player than coups. He needs the ball. You can't a half Lebron Mba in need the ball. Because you can't get the prediction that you see in New Orleans. Coups could play along without the ball. Aw He could play alongside Lebron but he hasn't shown the consistency that bad need to see because they know that because Kawai. You know what you're going to get you know you'll get what Paul George they got booed coming off the bench with Trae of and Louis of guy. That's what they need meal. They may cool to give him. Eighteen to twenty is putting black guy in yet. I I agree with you if he starts for a D. on Friday and Saturday night and he scores thirty game. It's really just helping getting him out right right right. You're marketable right light. As opposed to more able within. I don't see how he starts. They're going to start with breath because he's the on ball defender digging to keep Danny Green little because he can defend and shoot the three. I don't feel scenario. He goes into START ATLANTA. And I've also seen a lot of new hairstyles from like rebellious to me like every night. It's a new style style like marble. mcadoo tweeted zone is the happy. He's not the first half six half trouble except the net third role with Lebron T. That's what happens Gary Low right. Kevin Love with twenty six thirteen guy. ECKSTEEN is six by the time out but you want. Do you want to win but Chris Bosh with a twentieth right all right so now. We're giving him a hard time. That's done vaguely here. It's being reported that one of the reasons Jerry Jones decided to hire Mike McCarthy was because of seven evident three record against the cowboys when he was in Green Bay. And Jerry's opinion McCarthy helped the packers win those games with quote inferior talent into so Shannon. Did Green Bay really have inferior talent in the readings under Mike McCarthy quarterback that would mean Miami quarterback Mike Mike McCarthy the head of substantial but when you look at skill the skill position Jordy Nelson Greg Jennings. Donald driver drew Michael Finley. Okay we're we're how far back are you going. I Mean My McCarthy coaching you guys didn't it okay. Yeah but again when they played each other in the pluses like two thousand fourteen and twenty six up on his look into seven. Three overall record. Say you're going back you. Yeah Back Clay Matthews Junior Charles Woodson Morgan Brunette. BJ Raji. Mike Guy. He makes he had like like try and they were. They were pretty pretty good then with all the way they want a super bowl the NFC title games like two or three terms. Everybody will not look in. That is a remember remember. I talked about what Mike McCarthy going to have to overcome. Is that this mentality. See Jerry always believe whatever he has is the best of everything. That's Jabali that his jot. What is the best world? Even though there's this Russian guy that got one five hundred fourteen feet. There's two hundred fifty low jerry battle million dollars. Jared Jared Cook this out you see. Jerry was the one responsible for assembling the talent. So Oh he's GonNa say it's the best thank you skill but Green Bay had very talented football team. You don't win all these division titles without without being talented and he goes back they beat them very good very good bears teams. That was talented. No no no. No I think but McCarthy has won so many tab that Jerry's work Jerry world. He won a super bowl in that building and Jerry Hill. I can't beat him hill. I'm GonNa Having to join me. And maybe he could bring me that he had in Green Bay okay. Is he going to bring air rogers with him because that was a big deal that he had on his side. Jerry I'm just going to focus was on the two playoff games. Two Thousand Fourteen Twenty six thousand inferior talent on Green Bay side of the ball no maloney because the pro bowlers. We're about even Dallas. Had One more twenty fourteen because the long snapper LP Lusardi made it right okay but it's really six two six except in twenty fourteen. Gene Aaron Rodgers was the in the the league. So it's Aaron Rodgers against Tony. Romo will in that big advantage in order back to the home. It didn't roll up in his second. That no no no no. What's it called me? He made the pro ball a steel. So so again. The difference makers Aaron Rodgers was was the MVP. So I'm given the talent advantage Green Bay then we get to twenty sixteen. This one's at Gerry world. Obviously and you still have Aaron Rodgers and you have only four pro. bowlers alerts to dialysis seven but two of the Dallas seven pro. Bowlers are rookies Dak.. Prescott Zeke Elliott a rookie. So how can you tell me their green. They have inferior talent because guests who didn't make the pro bowl for Green Bay in two thousand sixteen Jordy Nelson Jared Kubik to catch of the game. Young man named Divider Padamsee. Good right you and then there was randall. Cobb whose Cowboy Ashley Geronimo. And then we go on the defensive side. These guys didn't make the pro bowl. Clay Matthews is Michael. Hide who's a really good player from buffalo now. Obviously Julius peppers diabetes a little past his prime but he was still really good and nick. Perry was their leading tackler. That year are they didn't make the pro bowl. That's inferior talent to what Dal's put on the Field Baloney it's not. I don't know what Jerry saying. He's trying to sell L.. Mike McCarthy who himself. He's trying to say will. I mean we lost because all the talent. There's no way we should allow. You seem like Green Bay was devoid of talent. They were or not okay so the Dallas Defense in two thousand sixteen was fifth in points. Allowed one reason they were is because Dallas was second in time of possession. Yes they kept kept Sean Lee and company off the field to assert that with your demarco. Murray okay no that's okay let me Lee okay. And then what happened in the playoff game at Gerry world. The defense doesn't show up after two weeks off and they fall behind twenty one to three. So how good was that defense offense was overrated. Okay they have Business Y-you know. No thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Jenny Taft. Join US again at the same time tomorrow morning. Nine thirty eastern. We'll see you then of learn.

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Still Buffering: "Dawson's Creek" (1998-2003)

Still Buffering

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Still Buffering: "Dawson's Creek" (1998-2003)

"Uh-huh! Hello and welcome to still buffering a cross generational guide to the coach that made us I am Riley smirl, Sydney Macaroni, and I'm Taylor smell. Was that tagline right? Yep, okay, thanks all right. It's been a while since we've actually done it. And then just kind of came out before I can think about it. And I was just hoping it was right, said anything, so I was I was. wasn't paying strict attention. 'cause I was thinking about how I should have peed before we started, but Maybe that's the energy that I need for this. Holding your energy. Don't you think that's? Good! I mean maybe not no. It's not great for your body, but like for your energy where you just kinda like clinching. Yeah I, was I was pondering that. We're GONNA see. Maybe the show will be better. Sydney's conducting a scientific experiment. She has a has a hypothesis. We're GONNA. See what what happens. Is The show better? If I don't P I. P. That's a slippery slope. If you if you do feel like it's better better material, because then it becomes something that you feel like you have to do every episode. You know ritual things that people get into performances. Having to peace Sydney's. I'll be bad. No I just I see. It was a great I had a great morning because Justin had the girls long enough for me to like have a shower and drink two cups of coffee, which is rare. Oh, yeah, you're got to pay for that. I'm paying for it. Yeah, I, don't know, said I. Think you you you you of all people. You got a little the little. You know your your kidneys. Don't don't do as much for you as as they they should. You got the Lazy Kid. I gotTa Lazy. Kidney Absolutely accurate. Lacy Kids. There there. I could like. I haven't had labs done in so long I could probably figure out of it. Really is a lengthy. I had an infection. In, my kidney I had piloted fried. It's a kidney infection. When I was very young and mom told me for years. That one of my kids does doesn't work I. Don't know if that's true. Told me for years. One of your kidneys didn't work I. DON'T WANNA be your kidneys. Not Not work. Because I just thought that was is that I don't. Hanan is that. The the basic like. The basic like CCP's I've had, which is just a basic blood test with which would look kidney function among other things like I as far as I know they've always been normal and so I don't. I don't know. But I've never had like any formal like. How well is your kidney functioning? I never had any like scans or ultrasounds or anything to like. Look at my kidneys to see if there's any damage to the, I swear growing up. That was what mom always told me to get me to not hold my pee. Was that you had one of your kidneys? That didn't work anymore because of that, so you still. She's still does that. You held your P. and it backed up into your kidney and it need round it. And then it now it. Happen to. I never went to medical school, so we don't know if that's right or not. Sure that could happen is not what kidneys. I did have your eternal reflux, which did cause urine to back up through the ureter into the kidney, and it did lead to an infection and I I did have a very severe pilot. Right is kidney infection and I was hospitalized when I was younger, and I I got better. Obviously. I survived right. But I don't know if it was severe enough to actually like damage. My kid if it did it didn't damage enough of it to like my i. Everything works fine. You know what I mean so like because you don't need two hundred percent functional kidneys. Yeah. I thought for a long time. You had one taken out also I thought you only had one. No, no! They're both they're. The question is is one working at full capacity or not, and I don't actually know if it is, but but there's enough that I everything works fine, so it's not really worth it to lake. Dig Further into this quandary. Considered you professions that that's something that you could like. Get checked pretty easily gotten. Out here, you of all people should know things about your health and you've had two children, don't they? Do like full body like? What's going on all up in here all the time whenever you're having babies? Do you WanNa? Start talking about the care for pregnant people in this country. I? I'm not a doctor. I got my vital Sagan for the first time in probably a decade I got my antibody test. The other day and the doctor was taken down. All the numbers and I'm like is that? Is that good about one? Is that good a long time? Since I've seen these things would mean well. That's what I'm saying like. The the labs that I have had done for other reasons have been fine but I I would not say that I've had every test done necessary. To tell you if like, is there some scar? Some scarred damaged area of kidney. That isn't functional. I don't know. I have not had testing necessary to tell me that answer definitively, but I have had enough testing to say that like everything. I mean I work. Fine like I have no reason to think. I can take the normal like the standard dosing of Medications I. Don't have to watch any. Of My diet like that kind of stuff for my kidneys, welcome to the crossover episode of saw bones and suffering. Medical diagnoses that shaped Sydney's childhood. Taylor has an excellent resting heart rate. Let's talk about that. I do not i. mean you, Jimmy. It could I guess it could be bad things except for that I? Run all the time, so it's probably a good thing. Yes, that's what I. That's what I learned. Yes, because the doctor was like well that low, it could that could be break earlier but run. It was like you could have said that. The the not scary thing I. Really like your even athlete and like read every day. That's probably what if it makes you feel better Brady Cardi. Adjust means slow heart. Rate, Yeah Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so then both, so it is okay. I looked up that word, and it was lots of scary things attached to it and I was like Oh, well I don't want that, but yeah, it just described slow. Heart rate doesn't necessarily give you an ideology why it just as it's slow I have a hard I. Guess I man that that Russia really speak to my running game because the idea that I'm chill anywhere in the chill. Specter of Jimmy Buffett is impossible. My heart is. He must be an amazing condition to overcome how how anxious I am all the time. That's my problem is always super high, and I don't run everyday, so doctors are always, are you? Are you okay? What's? I. Just thinking about things all. Also the thought of you taking my my heart rate makes me anxious that it's going to be bad so then I just get anxious about you taking. Too, real, it's a real phenomenon. We usually we usually with blood pressure. We call it white coat. But white coat tanker Cardia. That's a fast heart rate Tackett Guardia. Could be a could be definitely. We can see that. Well, although I don't ever wear a white coat, so I don't know why I do that to patients, you sneak up on them. From behind. Radio Boom, and then take their wealth pressure. I don't know what the problem is with my. Well this has been. Everyone's a medical check in week, I suppose. Maybe maybe he has a good kitties. Maybe and I've sally have a good heart rate probably good talk. Good. Job Don't hold it kids if you gotTa P. If you have to go potty, stop and go right away. Except for your podcast, which apparently the the rule? Yes, and you have to finish your podcast. Then, then go potty right away. you know what'll chill us all out? Let's that. A smooth boat ride down the creek whose creek. Whose Creek Dawson's Creek. I'm so excited to talk about Dawson's Creek. you know it's Weird I. I have a love for Dawson's Creek. That does not stem really from my teenage years. I came to Dawson's creek almost like at the end of the show. Okay I started watching it. I think around the last season like started back from the beginning. Because, one of our cousins had taped every episode on Vhs, and so I had a giant plastic tub of VHS tapes of Dawson's Creek and I had a tiny TV. Earl with thousands I know and I would pop my why vhs tape into. It was one of those TV's had VHS player in it, and so I would put my vhs tape in my tiny TV, and watch my episodes of Dawson's Creek one by one by one. There you go! Well. But I loved it. I don't know why I was GONNA. Ask why. What can you? Can you make some guesses? What was the appeal to you? I think it whenever I start to try to understand like. Explain or understand myself. Why like Dawson's Creek? It's the same problem I have when I. Try to explain why like Archie. Like it's like Justin said he read it, Archie. What's I? Mean? It's not funny. Like nope! Is Very often not. It's not. It's pleasant. It's the same way I feel about RT's. except I understand that they're not funny, and also sometimes not even like super pleasant. They just kind of exist. And I just have so many that you've left behind. I guess I gotTa like these now because we have so many, yeah. It's something it's like. Things like Archie Dawson's creek and I mean this by the way with all of the affection in the world I do not mean this in a negative way although I realize it's going down that way I I think sometimes they fill the same spaces like. buttered noodles. Like you know whatever kid and you just wanted a big plate of noodles with butter and salt, and it's like it's not particularly anything. Yeah, but you're gonna eat it and now when you see with him now you're like well I. Want more than that, but also like men buttered noodles are. Noodles uh-huh. They are exactly what they are there. There's no there's nothing like extraordinarily in any direction, but you just WanNa keep eating them. Yeah I! It's very low stakes engagement. It's like playing animal crossing. It's like this is just. There's no consequences to my actions is just a very pleasant experience e-e-e-e-no if that was the layer over top of animal crossing where your neighbors just cheat on each other all the time and life. Feelings for one another. Your way of getting back and forth between your friends houses is just a quick little robot robot robot right to the wrong side of the creek. Tall I think if you live along like a fancied I, think like Creak Creek. It's like a nice lake, lake or something that they live along I don't know. But we live close to the Ohio, river is. It's a river that's that's a river. We have creeks. I mean that's bigger than a creek. Definitely what they're onto the shows definitely bigger than. Waterfront property in most cases, there's not a wrong side of it. How about? Well is that I mean that's the. That's the big problem right like. Joey okay, if you're not familiar with Dawson's Creek. Terry. It's a teen. It's a teen drama. Dramas loosely used word here, yeah! It's a team show about Dawson, the titular character Dawson leery. Who? Is. He's. What I'm trying to explain awesome. He loves film. I was GONNA. Say IT Film Guy. He's obsessed with Stevens. Yeah sees himself the next Steven Spielberg exactly! Yeah, exactly obsessed with Steven Spielberg kind of us his whole life in terms of movies and film, and the supporting characters in his life, which I think is very much how he tends to view things which they do like challenges, the show goes on, but are his best friend Pacey witter. WHO's like the the guy who messes up? He's like Quirky and funny. Also the the man of Sydney streams apparently. Yes. Justin his shirt. That is identical to one of the shirts pacey whereas on the show. The first time. Justin word I was like. Shirt. Right. I did it I, chose pacing. And then there is the girl. Joey Joey, potter who lives on the wrong side of the creek. and her in Dawson have been best friends since they were teeny children. And then of course they become teenagers and lovey feelings developed hormones, hormones, and then the other the to the the core foursome, because you always have to have two men and two women I think it's just like rt's. He's just out to guys two girls to complete them. YOU INTRODUCE JEN? Jen Lindley, who comes from New York Hulu the big city. And shows up in the first episode kind of like your blonde bombshell to disrupt this quaint little. Love relationship thing is blossoming between Gio in Dawson. Yes, because immediately. It's like it's man. I love those. Do they still do that in movies where you have the scene where like the most beautiful character, steps out of a car and like time stop. The lowly and her floral, all her dress, her floral Laura Ashley Dress blowing in the wind I'm just GonNa? Sit because that's. Correct me up because I get the presentation as Oh. No here comes the sexy one, but she's. Like a very like cute Cardigan. Tiny yellow Cardigan too. And she's category like a carnival like a heavy gate. Her walk like it's not like who you'd like. Here's a chick. Gen- generally develops into that because you know, it's funny. You mentioned her walk I jen. Has that throughout the whole series and I love you? No I like it, too. I appreciate it because it really undercut this idea. And they do that. They do that throughout the series. Where like Jenn is introduced like? the hot sexy girl from New York. Who's going to steal Joey's man? But pretty quickly you realize like. No Jen Jen is Jen and has very little interest in any of that in any of this weird drama. That's going on at. The premise on why she moves there. If I'm not wrong, it's because her. Her grandfather is dying and her grandmother will be otherwise alone so. that. That's pretty much. That isn't right. That is why Her grandmother wants her to come help her. Yes, but also JEN was getting into. Trouble okay sort of it's sort of a fresh prince of Bel air kind of thing. Okay, sure yeah, like Gin. Was Jin is is having a lot of sexual relationships? She is dabbling in drugs and alcohol. She is partying. She is part of like the New York party scene. Tailored the Newark trouble thirty scenes, so you come into your city to to get troubled, be troubled, and then you know at some point. We do our time and we all leave for Quiet Cape Town Cape. Town. So she gets into Cape Side because her parents thinks she's heading down a dangerous path and her grandmother needs help, and so it's like this is a good time, and also grand is introducing the beginning as an incredibly kind of uptight, conservative deeply religious character who is supposed to lake. Straighten out Jen like you know, take her to church and get her right with the Lord. That is very much the impression you get it I, which I did I really enjoyed one of the first confrontations between Graham, and Jen is when Jin Announces Jenas Atheist. Great. Except that you know and it's like Oh dente done atheist. Like. This is the nineties that was still. That was still controversial I guess. You know I don't know they had a lot of ways. It's still is now, but it seemed very dated. It does it does and it's funny if you keep watching. Jen as I was watching, it occurred to me. Jen Tw- At least twice dates, guys and the whole like conflict is that they are very religious and. She is. An atheist as she, she has to like. They have her character say that many times out the theory, even from like the very first episode, yes? And like the you know the thing, is they make Gen, declare her atheism constantly throughout the series. But other than grams, nobody's going to church. Yeah, none of the characters ever go to church. That I can think of. Heck I the marriages happen on this show. NONE OF THEM IN CHURCHES There's a creek right there to get married next to yeah. Why would you marry a church? Married on the Creek S is like we're all these big beautiful houses. These people have they are rarely inside. Stolen inside time in this case. Lots of outside time it's. And you know I think I. Think we should say straight off the bat like it is a show that is quite lacking in diversity Oh. Yeah, for sure. Yes. It is a very white show, and it it at that time a lot of shows you could level that criticism. Matt Youth Easily not representative of most places in in America. We've talked about friends. Francis exactly, which which is even more like striking, because it set in New York in New, York Yeah but yeah, it's not. It's not a diverse show, and they do like they play with this idea that Joey. Potter lives on the wrong side of the creek, and they give her like this kind of like. More late harder back story to like Dawson. Who's got this like? Perfect little life yeah, and then you've got joey who? Lives with her older sister Bessie who I think is the series starts is pregnant. Yeah, her husband Boaty is away I. Forget why he's not there. He's there and he he works out of town or something, and so he's not always there. He's there from the first episode. Oh good. He gives the macaroni to try. That's right was goes on. Voting like is in and out. He's like there and not a lot. Yeah, But Their Dad, their mom died when they were little and their dad is in jail for something drug related I. Swear the first episode I watched it yesterday, and I think the fray she uses is like conspiracy to traffic marijuana I want to say is what she says because I. Remember hearing in. Going hold on wait a minute. What you is just like sitting next to a cop out of band like man, I'd like to sell marijuana one day and the COP was hack. You're going. So so Joey Jerry investing have to. Raise themselves best. He's grown up like so they've got A. They've got to have their own. Life here and it's also. I think it's also supposed to be since a body is black. That is part of like the the backstory for Joey and Betsy, and why they are considered outsiders with the rest of the Cape Side, the society, or whatever is right for the GEICO grand thinks that's not okay, yeah. But, but they still have a very nice, lovely creek side home that later in the series by the way they convert into a bed and breakfast. I would stay there. Yeah, so I mean it's got to be substantial and roomy. They converted into a BNB yeah. Just one bedroom for one. It's never. Full House thing going on where you can never really tell how many rooms or where everyone is in it. Like. I! Mean I guess it's no these money somewhere. If everybody lives in mansions around you, then having like a good size home, it's like Oh, no, your from the wrong side of the cree. I just can't get over wrong side of the creek, I just. Well. It's love it, yeah. Yeah So! Okay I'm trying to I'm trying to I still. Don't think I've explained. Why okay. I really liked first of all one of the number and criticisms that people always level at the show is the way the teenagers talked to each other. Yeah. because. They're like hyper verbal. I would agree with that. the their vocabularies. Are Not reflective of what we assumed. The typical team vocabulary was their references are wild, not just like I mean with with Dos, a lot of film reference which you can buy, because his character supposed to have this deep love of film but all of them are constantly referencing lake. Philosophy and like religious texts and historical ideas and poems and things that you don't expect a group of fifteen year. Olds who are like hanging out right next to the creek. Yeah. To like be able to just randomly throw into conversation. And so, I think even though that is why a lot of the critics were like what is this? Who is this four I would like, Oh yeah I would've loved to have friends like that I can make philosophical references. And have long. Conversations, I would like to go to there. I will fit right, didn't. I would love this I. Would I would just watch Dawson's creek and have conversations with them like just pause it and be like well. Let me let me Stop Dawson here. My thoughts on each so. I can see doing that, too. I didn't do that do that. Sometimes. But I don't know you can't deny. Though in in that. What that was talking about is teenagers are what we assume they are. They have other things going on, and that kind of conceit I think. However it manifests can be a very powerful thing in a show when you're younger to say like. Hey, you see me, you know you see that like not. All of us are into the same things and some of us are. All of us are thinking about. Life and like serious things and worried about things and have real life problems and it in any show that spoke to that. I think was very nice as opposed to like the previous idea about teenagers, which is I. Don't know they're all thinking about skateboards and pizza. More accurate, but. I was only thinking about skateboards and pizza. No. No that's fine. Teen Brain, just letting you know that's that's all I think about. Some of us weren't just thinking about skateboards. Pizzas on saying so you needed a more sophisticated show Austin Creek I because that's the thing it's like there's the distance of like I. Do not remember any any of us talking like that, but I do think we felt those things, and we just couldn't quite verbalize and we definitely didn't have the nerve to save them, so there's a bit of that fantasy element of like. Teams that are eloquently saying all of the things that you felt, but didn't have the guts to say aloud. Yes. I do think I think they handled some things. some I mean obviously it is of its time, and there are problems I'm the I. I think we can all tell from watching it now like there are lots of problems with it aside from the utter lack of diversity Right off the Bat paciest sleeping with his teacher. Storyline was really disturbing to me. and when you say right off the bat, you mean from the first episode, yes of the whole series. Yeah, and he is fifteen. Yeah, they're sophomores in high school and she is thirty five. Yes so so right from the beginning. Their problems again another thing that like. Think, God has evolved over time. Is the idea that like? No, it's not okay. Fits. A male student, and a female teacher doesn't make it okay like yes, a still because I was gonNA say pretty little. Liars did start out. It was a teen drama series. I watched in like Middle School High School. It did start out with one of the teen girls in a relationship with her male teacher. Really, yes, I was going to make this correlation because saw those fascinating. It's like Oh this was a storyline from the beginning of this series that started airing in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty eight, and this was also a plotline for a series that started airing in like two thousand thirteen. I think yeah. I, I had to remind myself what air this was made. Because I'm like surely this is going to advance to like a court case like storyline right, and then this woman who took advantage of this very very young boy is going to serve time for this right that is going to be the way this takes it. Oh No, they're just going just. Oh, like! Oh, it's tragic that it cannot be and okay well. They're star-crossed, Lopez. Yeah well and I think that again in that time period like. Riley. This probably wouldn't shock you to hear. There was that argument like well, but if it's a male student, he probably was into it, so it's fine as if like that excuses like its statutory rape, yeah! So that obviously is a problem with the show, and then. The other thing I think is interesting that I feel like as the series evolved and culture moved forward. They tried to deal with is early on in the show. Pacey pace, he's older brother. Doug is a police officer, and the two of them are constantly butting heads because Pacey is kind of the screw up. And His brother thinks he needs to like fall in line. And pacey is always the way that he torments. His older brother is by largely calling him like closeted and insinuating that he's gay. and. Early on that really like every time you hear that it's kind of like yeah, so gross and bad, because it feels like it's an insult I'm calling you this as a way to be mean, and it was also beyond that way. That's just like people used to use. That word is an insult. It was all the way to like. This is true about. About you and I'm making fun of you because this is also your personality, and also using it against you as an insult well and like going through like it shows him like at his apartment, like going through his records and being like Judy Garland come on Doug really like yeah, I like, it's very clear. I mean like really. It's very clear like he's. And the way the series tries to I think make up for that later is by actually making gay. Yeah, like yes, this is a gay character. Sure and he has been. He has not come out to any one and Pacey may have known it because it was his brother, and he knew his brother, and like have known it, but he. He didn't know it because Doug ever told him or anything like that. and I feel like that that was their way of like that was their mea culpa. and. That's not. That's not enough in my book. Yeah! Yeah because when you say to the end, you mean like the last episode, the last episode is when you find out seasoned or last year episodes like gets this arc of like you know discovering you know his identity, and not being ashamed of it. You know, but no, it's the very upset. Yes I. I realize that it's always sunny. Philadelphia did the exact same thing with character that they were always making fun of for being gay and yet apparently they handle it with more. To tosses creek. Is You actually get a development arc for that character? Okay, well all right well, they try. The problem is is not a bad arc. If they didn't try to cram it into the last episode. Because what what Doug is dealing with is, he's older than the other characters. He feels like I mean even so okay. Jack Who's the other? That's the other character. I wanted to talk about Jack. mcphee Jack and Andie mcphee joined the show. Season two. Yeah. I think brother and sister moved to town Andy immediately becomes love interest with Pacey, and like that's part of his arc, because Andy is super, smart and driven and motivated, and like helps Pacey like do better in school and care about things. And then you also get into actually a really interesting mental health storyline with Andy. Because Andy is has bipolar disorder and. Goes off of her medications at some point, and you see that she has like a manic episode, and and it's it's all that's all I. think a good plotline. Jacks plotline is when he first joins the show. It's like a It's a romantic rival for Joey's attention. Because Dawson Joey or having this like moment where Joey loves, Dawson, Dawson Loves Jen Dawson realizes he loves Joey but then. In a whole lot line where Dawson ends up getting Joey's dad put back in jail. Because! Because, Joey, Dad. Burns down there restaurant for the insurance money. I just can't. These teen shows. Episode is like. If you didn't think it could get any wilder, hold on. So Oh. Jack joins the show at this moment. Where like? Joey. Dawson is finally realizing the depth of his love for Joey. Joey's like I can't with you right now. You just got my dad put back. And so like she starts Golfer Jack. And they date for a while, and then there's this I think I, think they do. I think it's it's especially for the time period kind of well handled where Jack stands up in class to read a poem. There's this really really awful mean. Teacher who forces Jack Stanton class, and read this poem in which he speaks about kind of a nameless male. figure. In. That indicates he's attracted to them. And the entire school goes wild I like Oh my God. Jack Murphy is gay and he's dating Joey, but he secretly any read this poem. Can you believe it? I did find that that element was a little funny to me. Just like the thought that like Oh, no, if you look inside yourself, you might find gay. was like I, mean yeah. I have to write this poem and I don't know in Dawson's like. Just you know talk about your truth that he's okay. He's like it's just came out. I, don't know where it came. Oh, the GAY leaked out! I. Know Everybody's Queer experience? Obviously, everybody's different but you. Know like for a long time. You're like me a yeah. Probably it's not just like you just have a I. Don't know. Maybe some people have an Aha moment, but. That idea of like maybe. Put it. You get possessed by the secret gay inside, and then he just starts writing a poem, and you're not even moving your hands. It's like. Well now that's GonNa make more young men afraid of expressing their feelings, because what if they express their feelings and their feelings are. Now he he kind of I will say as the series goes on, and Jack continues to like. Deal with this like find how he's GonNa. Like be out and be okay with that and like figure things out for himself, because it really does portray it as like a journey for him to figure it all out. he talks a lot about the. Conflict comes from his father. So Jack and Andy's saying is that their mother also has. We think bipolar disorder. It's not really clear, but some sort of diagnosis for what she's been hospitalized and has a lot of difficulty like. Helping with day to day life stuff and so largely Jack Kennedy Care for her Their father works in the city and has never around okay. So and they're all very wealthy. That's their thing. everybody is they had an older brother. Tim who was like the Star of the family. In some sort of accident previously and the in that kind of destroyed. Whole, family. And Jack has always felt like he. His Dad didn't love his him as much. And so he has to be the son now. that his brother's got no, this is why and he talked this like, and he knew his dad would not be cool with him being gay and so he like didn't acknowledge that part of him for so long because it. He knew that it would be the final thing that would mean. He'd let his dad down. Yeah, which I think is a very like. Realistic to some experiences understandable. Yes, like self realization arc in terms of sexuality. And even andy voices like she's not thrilled with the idea. Yeah, yeah! It's of the core cast the only person that's really like okay. Whatever is Pacey? I also think that's. Well and I think that's part of the show trying to make up for the early like Pacey quietly gay bashing throughout his brother I. think that's part of his supposed to be. His redemption is like the only one who stands up for Jack. The only one who is just by his side is. Now Joey comes around, but obviously there's this moment of like. Oh, we're dating, but you. Oh, so it's not immediate. Although she does come around pretty quickly, but like pace. He's the one who is from the jump like so who cares okay? I think makes it somewhat I mean you could read into that more and be like okay, so he's always been accepting and loved. His brother may be, and he's just like you know trying to sure. I no mess with him an awful way. I don't know, but it makes you think that maybe in some way inside Pacey. He's always you know. His brother maybe. led to eventually the first onscreen primetime. Male Gay male kiss. Wow, show Dawson's creek. Is that that. What episode is that one of the when you gave us? No I don't think so. Yeah. It was in true light all right, OH, yeah! Yeah, when when? Jackson is Jack Is Ethan I. Think is his name. They don't end up together, but. Rose a huge huge huge deal for the character. It was a huge deal for TV. Yeah, which again are all these things that are like you know? achievements for some kinds of diversity in this show in the context of the fact of the show ran from nineteen, Ninety, eight, two, thousand three, but looking back now you can see all the. Still issues that exist Cher Cher. But it was it was definitely a big deal especially for a teen show To show, that was a big deal. Yeah, Yeah, that was the so that was in one of my. That was one of my favorite episodes. I love the episode where Jack Comes Out I. think that those two episodes together to part I I actually again. I think for the time they handle it. Pretty well. I mean not perfectly right any stretch, but they handle it pretty well. the depths so true love where? Pacey and Joey sail away together on a boat for a summer. You know like you do some time when you're sixteen. Yeah was I did that when I was yeah. That she makes a decision all at once, and then like meets him at the dock right before he's leaving. Go with you and that that's great and my mind. I was thinking but your clothes clothing unique close, but then they. At least they have a line of right in there where she's like what about clothes and he's like who knows, we'll get them somewhere. So at least they resented that because that's the kind of stuff that I can't stop thinking about when I watch show. Me To she, she also abandons Bessie at the BNB. They've spent the whole season establishing this be like. Pacey helps them. Build it and get it all set up and. All this, and then she's like. Good Luck Bye But life good luck I'm going off on a boat Louis I'm a teenager and me and this other teenager going to sail away on a boat for the entire summer. Which is why Sydney was in love with? He built I mean. He restored this whole boat, and then they sailed away together usually to boat summer with pacing. He buys her a wall. He buys her a wall. A wall pay. uh-huh! Express herself on. He believes so much on her art that he buys her a wall down. We rents her wall. Downtown, so that she can paint on a wall and express herself to the whole. City about Dawson's creek so romantic from the very first episode which when I watched the first episode I was very intently watching like okay. I need to get all these like beginning plot points in like characters and their their personality so I can understand this show better. But. You know in every pilot of a an episode. They throw in those plot points. They don't fully explains that you WanNa. Keep watching. Dawson's creek is like every two minutes. They're like all right. What else can we? What else can we fit in here? And it does that every episode is the thing, not just not just the pilot episode so so much going on with everyone all the time. I just likes to focus on Dawson's parents a lot which they do have a lovely arc in the series. I will say. But. I it starts out with you know. Gayle is cheating on. Mitch And then they divorced. And then they get back together. And they have a baby. And, then Mitch Dies in a tragic ice cream accident. He's driving his car and he's eating ice cream at the scoop of ice cream falls off the cone, any reaches down into the floor of the passage juicy to scoop to pick the ice cream off the floor and he drives headfirst into a truck. Sorry, yes. Very Sad. Anytime we're eating ice cream in the car now. Justin says don't pull a eerie It's very sad. It's very tragic because they had this level little story, but in the background of the Early Seasons Mitch Designing his restaurant. Yes, and it appears to be scuba themed risk. It in which people are actually worried like old fashioned? Big Scuba. Justice. Is like. What is this restaurant? Mitch Leery is designing never comes permission though right. LEARY's fresh fish. By the end of the show it is? It is a restaurant well themed appropriately. It's fish. fissured Fisher. Nature's scuba dives. I Love You into med school. You know there's a difference between scuba divers and fish. Yeah, well. It's I mean it's a fish place, but that's about it, yeah! They, they also I do love at the end. They signify in the time hop that they're all adults now because they drink. That's how you know. They're all growed up. They're all drinking and some of them drink beer. Most of them drink wine and I. Just at some point. Look at the wine that all the characters are drinking. It is a color that and Taylor you know alcohol better than me, and maybe there is a wine. That is this color, but I don't think any wine. Is this strange? Pinkish Reddish I've never see so clear. I've never seen A. It's not a Rosa. It is, but it's like it's wine in the loosest sense, so it's just water they put. This sounds like bones far. It does it looks like they're all just like sitting around like adult drinking casual sip of Boone's farm from this. Why Glass? It's so wild like they all are, and I'm like. Why don't they have? Just! It's like grown-ups that one's drinking a beer. Can't they just have an actual wine? I feel like that I don't know I noticed that a lot in movies where wind doesn't film, right or else? They're just using something and thinking. It's fine. Know like it all right and is don't bother to fix it to like you something that works because I don't really know maybe why camera looks thinner looks dipper. How light passes through it but I do win. Tend to those details more because also one of those things that once it's on the screen. I'm like well. That's where my attention is. What might be talking. Buildings might be exploding I'm looking at the weird, colored wine or the dirty Maryati. That's clear or whatever? Can't look away. There there are other reasons to watch the show the rest of the way through. Joey Has a really hot professor for a while and. There's when she makes it to college. There's tension there. Yeah, Sh Her roommate in college audrey busy Phillips. Is. Hilarious and fantastic and like is that she becomes the voice of the audience after a while like basically saying what is the deal with you people like? Why are you brooding and sad? And like what are you have to worry about like? It's very nice to have her on the show she's she's very funny. And different from any other characters and I also will say like. Gin is never given. Michelle Williams is a fantastic actor. Yeah, and her character I. Don't think has ever given enough. Through the show, she's really I always felt like at the end. Which I guess is ruins, the spoiler, but spoiler Jen dies in the end, and I always thought that was kind of unfair, because it's really it's a sacrifice I feel like of the plot in in service to the. Big Story Line which is who will joey choose Dawson her Pacey, which is unfortunately I was reading about that that I guess a director, said they. The one thing that the group had encountered was like a loss of one of their own, and so that was really important, just to kind of I guess, check the boxes on their education into into adulthood, and so that's that was the driving force to like. Get Joey to make up her mind, but which is just, it's like I. Mean I guess if you're if your fridge in female character in service of another female characters development it's. Better I. Feel like it never gonNA. Laugh it, it's. It's still like that classic trump that still happens in TV shows and movies that are females. Storyline ends when she chooses a male that she will be out through manically and we. We've talked about crazy ex girlfriend before the. That's a show that was where the first ever was like actually. That's not an end for female. You can have a life and romance can be a part of it, but your life doesn't end when you choose a male to settle down with and the other characters don't I mean? To some extent, Jack gets that happy ending. because. I don't know. Is that a spoiler? Yeah. A Little Bit Jack and Doug End up together and it's. I don't know I. Think it's one of the cutest. Scenes in the finale, but in some ways it also like we had to gay characters, so we put them together with. Very much. Now very much is and But like. Jen does not do not think she gets ending because she she has had a child. And, she has a very young baby, and then she's dying, and it's very. It's all very like. We've done all we needed to do with your character I. Don't it's a I think it is. I think that is the one thing where I was. When I was younger, I was such like a Joey Fan that I I didn't connect with Jen as an adult rewatching. Like John, had a lot figured out. The other characters didn't from the get go and I feel bad for the ARC. That character got yeah. A sad yup! and then. Why don't want I? Guess we're not. We're not getting too deep into the spoiler, but The I guess Dawson Dawson gets his his chosen in which he's not with anybody, right? Oh. All right I got genuinely ended Dawson's Creek. Everyone I started watching and I didn't stop watching until I had to go to sleep. It's okay, it's okay. You know I was hoping. Joey ended up with anyways. Dot I kind of knew that was gonNA happen. I didn't think they'd put Joey with Dawson. I figured Dawson happy. Ending was like he did his movie pray. He has a meeting with Spielberg morning. That's just the yeah. That's his happy. That's his happy ending well, but again it's kind of. We're talking about because he's a male character, so he gets a career. Yeah, he gets a career as a happy ending that Yeah I kinda I hate that cliche happens, but also I just couldn't. I don't know you said you said he gets better and he deals with has develop it, but man I really from the jump I was like I. It's called Dawson's creek and I just hey Dawson. Why can't this be someone? Like Guy, that's never been told no or questioned. He gets to talk until his sentences are done and then have moments of silence where everyone's supposed to consider how intelligent they are. Talking. He, he gets He gets beaten down a little bit. After his dad dies, and then like his his foray and film school is not going as well as he thought it would like things. Things get harder for him, and his character gets to develop when things get harder And it introduces some other cool characters because of that but Yeah it it. Definitely, it's not. He's not as cringe as things. Go on good But Yeah, so that's Dawson's. That's Dawson's creek overall. I genuinely did start watching it and I was like I. Kinda WanNa. Keep watching it because yes, it's one of those cringe overdramatic teen shows, but kind of mindless sometimes grams gets better. Not only does grams turn around, and that later she could Graham starts today later after her husband passes away later on, she dates, and one of her suitors is black, so wow, that changes, and then which again I think is the show being like? OOPS? We made grams racist in the person. Yes, and then I very racist. Yeah, and then when Jack comes out. Grams is like fine with a wow super supportive. They made up for how awful they made her character by just making her the most accepting they make they make her like she's still very religious, but she's very accepting loving, and actually when Jack Jack and Jen become like besties as the series goes on and when Jack and Jen go away to college together, they bring grams with them. You bring your bring your Grand Graham guys. It's Kinda. She's like she becomes like. Very the adult that. Adults just disappear right and she gets to stay always happens in teen dramas. It's like where are the adults ever? That was actually I was reading. That was actually why Mitch leary's character ended up. Getting killed off is because the actor who by the way used to be the flash? Oh, yeah, when he when he found out like they're going away to college and like we're just here. He was like I don't have time for those. Off Something I. I'm I'm kind of done with this whole bag. So. Please get rid of me now you know which I thought was kind of funny. Yeah. I think it's interesting that you kind of witness in the in the show itself a bit of a a. Cultural, like awakening or or an attempted actually being more sensitive and more aware of itself, because it started in the ninety s, and it was like Oh. This is fine, right? Every other scene is like homophobic or racist that it's very white and that it's like. People don't like this. We have to change things, but that you know they didn't just double down like. Some shows friends. No. They definitely tried to change with it. Yeah, like yeah. No, they definitely tried to change with it and and improve and fix things, and they got some stuff rare wrong. They got some things I think. Pretty well. Yeah, But But at at the end of the day I still think it's like it's fluffy and. Enjoyable just one of those things you can turn on the back and some things like man that's. Unrealistic in wild, but also like. KINDA WANNA keep walking. Yeah, everybody gets to have some butter noodles seven now. Yeah. We go there you go if you need some buttered noodles, they're all on Hulu. Taylor. What's up next show up next I WanNa go with the movie. I wanted to talk about Edward Scissorhands Oh, that's directed by Tim. Burton came out in nineteen ninety sort of Kouyate essential young. Spooky people viewing in my generation. High identified as a young spooky persons that. Yeah. All right I'm very excited. I think I. Think Charlie can handle it. We'll watch. It's been a while since I've watched. I was too young. I got freaked out the first time. Yeah, I'll be better now. We'll. We will do that for next week. Thank you both for indulging me course. I'll never make you washed off now. I'll just choose to watch DAWSON'S CREEK I would watch more of it like just on the. While I'm drawing like to find things that I can kind of focus on have to focus on too much, and that's that's good, so Riley. Apparently, YOU'RE GONNA. Watch it all now? This is your thing. Yeah. It might happen the next week. Record and I've watched all of it. You never know stick in there for busy Phillips Yeah We'll thank you all. Thank you again. to Fanti for allowing us to drop their drop their episode last week. we really appreciated them giving us the opportunity to do that and to share that with our with our audience as well Thank you. Listeners hope everybody out there. Is staying safe staying healthy? taking care of yourself and others Maximum Fund Dot Org has a lot of wonderful shows that you would enjoy in in the downtime. 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CIPYD 224: Gaby Dunn and Alison Raskin

Can I Pet Your Dog?

46:40 min | 6 months ago

CIPYD 224: Gaby Dunn and Alison Raskin

"Is there a dull anna car out of bar on the street yeah. That's a dog that we really want to me. Hey can I pet your your with Rene and Welcome to Canape your dog. I'm renee covert a big dog owner. I'm expecting a puppy dog owner. This is the pond Casper. Unapologetic logistic doglovers. Alexis president. Happy Post Birthday now. I feel like more razzmatazz should have gone down last week. No for your birthday. Now's the right amount. You feel. Yeah it was uh remember it. I remember it was my birthday. We said well happy birthday. Sure and and that's all you need. You need now at work. I do a Do a little opole enlist Google forms to to have people tell me Their favorite birthday treat. And and then you have to rank on a scale of one to ten HOOPLA level with which you prefer to be celebrates yes kaelin skipped one on one is a we Silently cupcake on your desk. Nobody says anything yet ten. We Shut Down Sunset Boulevard for parade For your birthday where you on the scale of one to ten HOOPLA birthday level on the actual day of my thing on like a six okay really reasonable. All you need issue that I've realized like there are people that like feel like me on my birthday every day. And that's bad she where I was like. I remember like I had to do something like I could move my car yes. I'm don't want birthdays birthday and I was like. Wow there are people that are just like entitled to it. I'm famous sixty five. Yeah Yeah so It's good that only have one birthday a year because I do just tend to like in my brain and Mike. I'M NOT GONNA work today at work days that I've had to work okay. Well I'm not going to do that much birthday like back. I'M GONNA go for a walk like you have to work still exist little exactly. Here's what I bet. This is something that people put into a freeze more often than I'm aware of isn't like they're acting like it's a birthday. Yeah don't good work over here at your birth date. Your conduct like that unless Russian birthday I really take that to heart and I also like when I enter a store. I'm like look if they have birthday special or something I do WanNa know you know what I mean like. I got a free candle because it's my birthday. Excuse where are we getting free candle. It wasn't intentionally free but they're still busy walkout birthday discount rate I think is it ten finger or if I think I think it's fine. I think. Listen as to criminals group. The mastermind eldest shoplift can't quite report how to do that. But you just can't look They were already on sale and I was smelling them. And the I've been talking to the sales clerk for allows her shop rain and Like she was like look. I'm just trying to get rid of these candles. Yeah if you buy one already on sale you can take the floor model with you. I was like all right. This is great because they're you're like the type of candle normally by the fancy like us too much for our cancelled type Panama scandal yet two for the price of one a two for one and a floor model. And if it's great well it just know how to be a candle tipping over flickering out. They've they've they've been had a bit right. I mean not let. They didn't like these models. Would I feel like the performance of it. It's ready exit. Looks good and it knows he smells good to believe it. Yes yeah so good. Yeah Did Chrome knows your birthday where you properly treated. I kept trying to tell him. You're really got it still would bark and right yes I'm going to do one eighty from the celebration of birthday which is glorious. My Week was was was just just delivered with the first episode ever a food poisoning. Yeah now on the one hand. I'm thrilled that I've made it to this. Ripe Age of eighty I five is wild to me never before never before have I had food poisoning and and boys it all. Everyone cracks it up to it is. It's a it's a dramatic. It's it's a very your body's putting on a show right and at the same token Took but was also made privy to the verity with which the situation was. He was more irritated. The light was going off and on throughout the trying to sleep here. You're like stop it. Yeah and then and then Every time I would Get getting getting the warm spot of the bed and then in the upset that he was being made to move again is fine. I tried to explain to them. I'm like we're having a bit of a night. If you could just work with me. I guess who also is have a nice light shone in my eyes every thirty minutes or so. I'm so sorry beyond beyond my week in Berkeley celebration. Good week real fine. Everything's fine but these are stressful and also fun. Yeah I agree. I couldn't agree more. Also am really really observing that Just all the way up until April I feel like January February march and April. Now the year can be interesting. See I like February but I think 'cause my breath Short so I like. That's that's a good month. Yes short we get out of the way. Yeah we'll now birth earth month that'll change it. I you know as a single person it is usually. I just have to make it past Valentine's Day and then and then you're good so why why is march getting a bad rap. I think is is not super warm yet like like war month but it is Max one. Dr Drew Switch. Everybody's favorite everybody's favorite. Who's favorite holiday is Saint Patrick's Hilarie out there? You have to be right. Yeah that's so I I will now I want. Is it your yet. Let us know. Give us a tweet. Give us an institution my y. Yes I think that more than anything like what's my party. Yeah but why like ranger figures. I would bet I would bet it is people whose Gotcha Day is Saint Patrick's hoster favorite holiday. You got your a dog on Saint Patrick's yeah. If you've another reason to like Patrick outside Patrick's wedding day I got married that day day. Yeah options for underdog now okay so with how. How would people will let us know this Alexis if they wanted to be like? Hey It's Saint Patrick's as mine we're we're GONNA do such a thing. You could send a carrier pigeon and that is one option. You could get an old phone book out right and see if our numbers are listening or you can visit our social media. Twitter seems like the easiest the easiest for all right. Look the favorite holidays hit. Patrick say they're different so I went and give them more options twitter. Yes but we are at the. I P Y de podcast porn those And you can also find links to our individual accounts from there And then you can also email us at. Can I pet your dog. PODCAST at gmail.com com so many options. And while you're at your computer if you've got the time if you're just like I want to do anything. Good itunes in review podcasts. That's the only thing I feel like doing right now. I hear you. I'm there several times a week. 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Talk Okay let's let's get down to casual. Let's do the numbers I'm Kai Ryssdal. You want to hear what we have on the show to Dillard's okay the numbers into this week. Fleece the Nasdaq. No we have a my minute from Magda and Fleet Felix. Yes we have the very wonderful guess bestselling authors and podcasters Gabby done an allison raskin and then we have a little of dog. News about A bill that's getting passed near exit. We'll do a quick crumble. Of course. Sorry Okay I'll give you think we're not going to talk about our own. You know what you're going to Miss Renee well do. Do you hate the mess in front of stuff. What Kinda when you said? It didn't bother me but then if someone was like do you want to be called never in a million seniors. Ma'am is worse. I hate being named. Oh No no no no nobody likes. Nobody likes that. Should just take it out of the vernacular completely polite. Like Ma'am you know dot your sir. I left my keys there on purpose. Don't leave Well I regret saying this election but I do want to address you by your by your team much. The snapper excess Vin this week. He's been pretty good have you been. He's looking at me he. Can I talk about crime. Yeah on the way into your house. He you know how a child will hold onto your leg and then want you to continue to walk so they can go along for a ride. Chrome has now taken to that and it is the cutest thing ever goes immediately for your shoelaces or a Japan's. Yes and it seems that it's done with the intent of affection life criminal good buds but it will also is adorable to think that. Oh he's he's being trained to attack and he's so teeny tiny just like great news. I'm GONNA stop her. I mean he really good at untying shoelaces and that's about it. Yes yes as far as you can get. It's I guess someone could trip. But it's quite a survey because we're about to go into your home and I think I am sure people who have no shoe policy would give anything to you have a crime to remind them. Just just be like. Let's kick off shoes and stay. Well I'll help. Yeah I had a small get together for my birthday and so that was the first time in the new house. I've done that now. It was like house. Crime GonNa do that and it was fine. He he still doesn't life when strangers come over short fair he just doesn't like it he'll just bark at them right and it was so like a room full of people he knows does. Yeah and you'd think like one more person he's not GonNa really notice if he doesn't know them immediately starts barking at them. Yeah we I can imagine is frustrating when you tried to have a party but it's also very very it's I think everyone else that does know him as like. Yeah good good I also is Chroma mean girl you were invited. Nobody invited you know you and I was like trump. That's my friend. I did invite them. I Look I've never met from. You haven't canal live a year. You can't have that. Many people yet is very weaves. He's very sweet. Very sweet anything. No I have the the same type of week took in addition to being very visibly irritated that I had food poisoning. Netflix was also a bit of a grouch at work this week now to his in this is slight credit. I think we've got a system that works out so Monday Monday. Wednesday Friday He gets a Walker on Monday Walker on Wednesday Friday. He comes into Tuesday Thursdays. Our Dog Park Day care and I think he is playing so hard at dog park daycare that the Monday Wednesday Friday element is just for sleeping right so I feel like this Friday. When he went in it was just he was? He was disrupted from his routine of sleeping but oh my goodness he just pouty boy. Oh No to everyone including but not limited to his very best friend. No I know I know what did let me say it was a little bit re. He just couldn't be bothered to lift his head. Yeah I get that new tired. You're tired Ryan but I also feel L. Like I've got He's three and a half so in dog years. What does that twenty four seven four? Yeah missing now. I've got this like young adult on my hands. Who thinks he knows everything? Here's the thing. Alexis he thinks is his birthday everyday. I know it's not your birthday. Doug sniper taste go into work. This is what adulthood is. It's not fun but we have to get out true. I will say the bills birthdays coming up. Yes in Winston signed. His birthday is a is. The twenty fifth of we will not yet twentieth February. I do they sell little Dog Cakes very cute. Yeah they're so cute. Yeah we'll see. I don't know I got to see what he wants to do. Maybe maybe just go to the dog park. And when is the Gotcha Day It is March out here we go. It's tough when they're that close together. Because tugs hugs is tugs. Gotcha date is August. Fourth Birthday is September. Twenty first and so a big Hullabaloo was made out of the Gotcha Day and then who earn. I don't think so honestly that's probably the best way to do. It is have that birthday first agitate because otherwise birthday gets find on the ropes Um a bunch of things that say give chrome flea medication. Okay but sometime in March awesome him and my friend fine. Yeah I like it I like it well I think listen. Listen both of us. Have kind of head humdrum weeks with their dogs. But you know what I think a lot of times we forget the ducks are just like humans. You're allowed to have a humdrum. Weak now big SWIG sign next week probably going to theme park who would adventures behold. I can't wait for the theme park to open. Do you know what time it is. Time is time for my mom. Minute with Magda and Felix. Hey Hi guys. This is mugged Magda from Poland. I love your show in this. Is My mutt minute about my dog Felix Felix is one year old Cavalier King Charles Charles Spaniel puppy. He's black and brown with two white socks and white belly. He has floppy ears with wavy hair. That makes him look like instagram. Influence her her and incredibly soft squishy mouth and giant kind is. He's highly energetic. Happy and the curious about everything I think everyone. He's in constant lick mode and he will find you a he will leak you. He doesn't care for sticks but loves spine CONES. We have chicken geese and calves and he wants to be friends with every single one of them. He just doesn't have a mean bone in his body and time you leagues like a influence or he also he says He. These photo is is Alita Utah Doc Magnusson and some photos including but not limited to Felix Holding pinecone yet. And it's just as cute as you would imagine it to be. It's cute cute in that way. That like I look at chrome and I go. Oh God come on Yemen can't go in the beauty pageant dog. Yeah Saint because especially eh feelings younger than tug just like all right buddy you gotta try. New nighttime regime feels really good black but with these little eyebrows. Yeah I really good King Charles. Oh my goodness and not a mean bone in his body making friends with gays. So Cute Helix no notes I do have a note for Magneto. Antibiotics the same note. You're about to say that she also did very beautiful art. Talk enough about herself in this. That's my note I wasn't really a note. It was a thank you because I think we posted it but she did this beautiful picture of In a tugboat. It's it's so good. It's so good But we will post all of this to. Oh did you see at the bottom on the boat. Is this because you know. It's so cute. Can we take that again. and then the flag has tugboat on the table. You know I know I it down. It's so good you mentioned in detail in this Rodeo Alexis Lizards. There's wanted me to scream at them. Yeah they do consent to happen for that. If you aren't Rene to scream at you you need to do my minute and do and minute you need to record yourself talking but a dog that you love for one minute on your phone or recording device go ahead and send that email recording to can I pet your dog podcast dot. Tom Played on the show. Oh Hey everyone alden Ford here with the cast of mission. Six our fourth season premiered on February nineteenth. And for those of you who aren't familiar with the show. We decided to ask one of our characters to give you a quick recap of what's happened so far. Say Hello to the clone trooper aging author down. Can you just tell us what's happened in six quadrant in the last couple of seasons over we destroy the emperor. Oh really okay great. I mean I think we knocked him into a chasm. Mister robot ship crashed the window. Dr Maybe horse ended. I took out like a bad guys. Papa filled his destiny and the loser. was there too okay great. I guess I was sort of asking what the show is like. Oh you mean like it's an improvised workplace bass opera featuring brilliant sound design incredible guest stars and an epic hilarious tale of fresh versus whack. Yeah wow where did you come up with that. My mission is season for debuts on February nineteenth and maximum fun check it out it. Hey I'm Jerry Hill Co host of the brand new maximum fun podcast. FANTI travail Anderson. I'm the other more fabulous co host and the reason you really should be after the nausea rising. FANTI is to be a big fan of something but also have some challenging or anti feelings toward it conduct. We're we're all fans of Kanye. He's a musical genius but like you know prefix flavors choice the real housewives of Atlanta. Like I love the drama. But do I WANNA see black men fighting each other on screen rooted rotate. Now to the non we're tackling all of those complex and complicated conversations about the people places and things that we love even though they may not love up back fanti. Maximum fine podcasts. Well you guys were all number. One fans of these girls They need no introduction but we will give it to anyway New York Times bestselling authors. My favorite podcasters in yours gabby done als in Raskin. Welcome to the show so much for doing this. I have to tell you girls my day job is institure. Get to sit at the front desk when you come in to record your incredible podcast just between us. Oh thank you You were the nicest people and you were so talented. Did you deserve to be jerks. I'm very impressed with how buddy deserves to be a jerk attitude like I feel like it's a very very welcoming front desk you've created. Seems Nice when they come in you guys the best but then also you do me this incredible favor that every now and again you will bring your dogs. Yeah we're just Kinda we're here. I am so in love with both of them. Gabby you have beans. Yeah Alison you have sugar. Yes now I feel like we should go so one time okay. But what's really crazy. Is that we all rescued our dogs from the exact same place I know from waxen walks. Incredible which alone nights well allison brought me to eggs and walks allison adopted sugar from wags and walks I write. I'm a trendsetter was looking for a dog. I was obsessed with the wags and walks instagram account of look at it every day and I like went and looked at dogs there and like new all the dogs by name basically like they were celebrities. And so that's where I found beans was on on their website right which now going in You always have incredible episode. That has the founder of wax and And she talks a little bit about it and he goes went into it. A little bit about how you got your dogs but you were saying that the maybe not necessarily beans was the dog would have initially initially. Oh no no no no no no. He's agreeing to. Yes yeah I I. Yeah I mean we talked to Leslie who is an amazing guest. It's all about dog rescue right but no I had this idea in my head that I wanted a dog that wouldn't shed. I wanted a dog that maybe had like white for 'cause like black dogs and cats also have like a kind of a rough go of it. I remember there was like a Hashtag national black dog day to like show support for black dogs like And he is hard to see at night. I will say that were seemed to disappear on the leash but yes so i. I just wasn't sure I like passed him on the website. I was like Chihuahua. I don't know about that brand. That has a bad reputation so I just passed him on the website and my girlfriend at the time was like what about about this guy and I was like I mean I don't know yeah. And then she was like the whole reason that she was in. Your life was to get you being. I think that every day really. Yeah well yeah bring a lot of just like I can't be mad at. She got me my dog young man going to be a little bit man. Happy mad at the time spent no sheep. She picked him full credit and we went me and my sister and her to go see him and he was very cute in person you know the thing is is to is that he's very overweight. He's so cute. And we should describe it so a bit of a two hour mixed mixed with a pig he does have have a bit of a snort particularly short which is big. Yeah he's holding. Goes back like a pig. He is a small Black Chihuahua who is fifteen eighteen pounds very thick neck very barrel chested. He's losing his hair and he just I mean he looks. I was saying and Alison. He looks like he's always been alive and will always be a lot. He's like an old tortoise looking but then he's only four really my partner is like like he's one hundred he's timeless. Yes no yes. So I wouldn't have picked him but then we saw him and he I mean he was super fucking cue going going into it. I know that we had the for reference. Did you want a little dog. I wanted a massive pit bull. Yeah you chose right and and I wanted. I wanted a big fat. I talked to the wags and walks about a big fat pit bull of theirs that I really wanted and people at the time. We're like you cannot have a dog that you can't lift It's good advice because I mean they're trained to have dog UK. Yes I love. You might favorite type of dog is like greyhounds or with it or like. I love big. I want like a bear not a greyhound. They're they're they're bigger. They're I like a bear type dog too but they're bigger right whereas like this is what is this. This is a little old Paul Mound of potato I have and you have. Graciously brought both dogs into the studio. Yeah they're looking at US right now if we could just hurry this wintering which which is a new thing just a bit no. Do we know the origin of one how it started. Or maybe what he wants. He was sick one night and started whimpering and so I- rubbed his belly for hours first and then now I've slowly realised that he's learned that whimpering gets me to pet him and this is all within the last couple months and also I was saying to alison. He got his paw stuck on the chair. One time in Yelp slutty overboard I was like Oh my God. Are you okay. And I gave him a lot of treats and hugged him for so long. And I was like doting on him. Yeah and now every so often he yelps when nothing's wrong because he has realized that that caused me to rush over to him and be like. Oh my God what do you want do you want treats so you okay yes of course nippy. -lating me it's on. Your eighty percent urinated twenty percent for me. Proud of my pop had the same thing where he had a bit of a sick belly alien so we needed to get outside urgently right and and so he learned that if he spins around and runs to the door that oh we gotta go for it every time. It's better to fall for that. Yes then be surprised. Just be like Oh shit. That's what I mean I'm like Oh my God. Maybe this time he actually is hurt or sick sick right. No not since the time. He's playing yeah just a little smart. I am proud of him then. Now sugar how long have we had sugar for. Oh my God sugar and my eight four year anniversary is next week. Valentine's Day twenty twenty. Come on your little. Valentine's Day pub got her on Valentine's Day looks. Looks like a muppet dog. Know what she. She's not a dog she's more of a stuffed animal full human. How would you describe the breed? Do we have the little mix. She's around twenty pounds or aiming for seventeen she also barrel chested. She's apricot cobbler caller which is also maybe like dirty dirty blond? Yes she is is humanized. She's got a pink nose and She's it really is because of her personality. Well now this personality but I find it's so charming sugar spares fools cares about actually. No one knew that her temperament when you got her has it gotten progressively better since you've had her. Oh Yeah I think she's way more loving now. Wow so just imagine what it was like before regal loves me but I have to leave to see it. Sure so oh. Like she's like my mom's always like she's like a teenager she's like mom rent only leader. That's like Ma Ma and yeah I mean I've I also had to learn that like her verge affections just different than what other dogs is like. She's not she's never going to like. Lick me like exit. I got like five six this morning. Yeah Yeah it's a good day and she's just she just like beats to the beat of her own drum. Or what is it walks she. Yeah she's very aloof up. She's leaving me okay later so I feel like you're talking about me too much. She can't have the spotlight on me for this long. Yeah but it was really sweet and she was hanging out on your lap so so it seems like we've got a little bit of affection. No go in there on my lap and we'll be watching. TV show. Her favorite thing to do is I sit down on the couch and she runs over and then she she puts one elbow on me leans on me like a businessman Oughta at an armchair of course yes of affection. Just just one elbows worth. That's a perfect. Were you looking for this kind of dog when you first started. Yes fit all my criteria. I saw her at a adoption fair across the street from my house. After looking all over the city for a dog she ended up being across the street. In the moment I walked up to the fair this other woman was holding her and I could tell that she wasn't taking taking it seriously and I was like that's my dog and then stormed up and interrupted the conversation and talk sugar. I like stayed around until that lady left. And then like yes yup. Yes but then they were like you have to take her right now and I was like okay. I don't have anything for a dog. Can I get her tomorrow right. And they're like no really. I was like please I have nothing. They were like please. I have nothing and I had plans the next day like it was not the right day fruit or take a dog and they were like sorry. That's our rule and I was like okay and then then I went and got lunch with my friends and then I came back as the adoption fair was ending and I was like. Did anyone take sugar. And they're like no I think she's still round she was like And and so like two hours later I went and bought all this stuff for a dog called and said I wanted her to pick up the next day. The I'm trying to muscle you. And maybe to their small small defense. I would bet they hear that quite a bit of why promise. I'm going to be right so I I understand legal saying if someone else at this specific adoption fair wanted her wreck and they got her. And what did you find in not having a dog and not knowing her particular needs you got a bunch of stuff. That was not necessary. Oh Yeah Yeah right now. Sugar has one toy and she plays with it. Maybe twice a week right. Yeah against doesn't care about toys at all you care about when it is beans like he does it. I mean first of all the opposite of sugar if he could crawl inside my skin he was. He's he's so affectionate and Swede just little mayor. Walking around people wants to greet. Everyone wants to meet. Everyone wants to sit with people. I'll crawl I mean if he's not touching me he's crying like he needs to be in my lap He needs to be a part of me having him is. I'm like well. I have chosen to never ever be alone again. He he wants to sit. If I'm on my computer. He wants to sit on my lap in front of the computer. If I am like on my bed he wants to sit right up in my face clips he sleep we sleep. He sleeps in the bed with court like he needs. He's so needy. There's tugboat sleep in your bed. Yeah Yeah it's weird when people don't their dog's not supposed to It's so true and I think it is like he's got such a little hilarious personality. We've had trainers come in an and their Because it's got to be cute Their advice was altitude equals attitude so the higher he is the more like in charge. He feels that he is now. But he's it's funny. We're just GonNa let him have a little bit of an attitude because its own. Sugar always tried to highest point. Yeah always climbs pillows and tries to get as high as possible. Isn't that wild. I am not great at reading a full article but I've read the first pair of numerous ones. And they always say that the began like a lot of it is just pact mentality of trying to be the Alpha like getting getting up high and sitting on your lap is just like your mind in church you. It was very cute. He I mean he needs to. He's also very easily doted on like people that come to my house or whatever are just immediately like whatever you want. I'll give it to you. I don't like course everyone everyone that visits or like I had him out in the yard and my neighbor's girlfriend was like who is this. Like every every person loses the mines over being as you should. I am barely able to conduct this interview right now looking at both of these dogs. You get very fat so I was walking taking him. One time in these little girls were like Gordo Gordon Dough Curry. He can't hear you. People come up to pet sugar and she walks away and then I'm mortified. Can I pet your good love. You can drive a Lou you can give it your best byline is always is if someone's like can I pet him. I'm like please. He's running for mayor and that's a delightful interaction. Shouldn't we be doing that going forward. That's exactly how you respond to that question. Four names they start with beans and sugar or did you guys name him. No we both kept the napster blogs and walk eating. Yeah that's what they did a good job. Yeah I could never have named my dog. Sugar wouldn't have occurred to me. Yeah it's so I think like excessive passive. It's just like yeah I mean it's like so like history center and never have had the balls to do it but I love that her name issue yeah. She's these suits suitor. She just she's sweet and she knows she doesn't shoot anything and everyone loves sugar. Yeah Yeah you you shouldn't you can't have enough because you could never have enough of it. I never have enough her. No we'll be on. The is website beans was named tootsie roll. Then when I went into meet him they were like so. We've all been calling him Mr Bean. Oh Oh yeah and they were like and we've always been calling him. Mr Bean or Mr Bean's and so then when he was in the playroom where we were trying to see if we got along with him and stuff before we adopted to them we were like be calling to him and he answered to it and came to an end so we were like all right. Well I guess it's beans then. Yeah well let's. He likes the room. I was GONNA say how did you know you're like that's my dog. He came right. My sister is very cold hearted he came right to her and sat in her lap and she immediately melted. She's never loved an animal the way she loves being her whole personality has changed around. This dog sure She like loves him so much and shows him more affection than I've ever seen her show human person and so g sweet. She is obsessed with him and so he crawled right right into her lap and she was the one who needed the most convincing. Yeah so She immediately was like all right. I like him. He's good he's chosen well. Yeah and then I he he just is kind of like a love bug. Yes I just wanted to cuddle. and wasn't I mean he doesn't move a whole lot is doesn't really run sweet. He's on your lab right right now. Resting his little Chin on your arm just just tucked in Louise. Happy kind of a potato. We brought him to the dog park. And we were like looking at all the other dogs like running and like like chasing frisbees and doing stuff and I was looking at beans and I was like. Wouldn't it be cool if you were a dog. A dog at all right right. But he's he's not he's just a little stuffed animal. Yeah that's I think they think it's good to have them all sugars. Also it's nice to have a little bit of a nice to have of a pig dog. I've feeling is bit of a bear like the animal that you set yourself out. It's all very tugboat to the dog park. You can throw a ball. Tugboat will play fish. Yeah he's and he but he's the same way in that he's too friendly with other just and and they're like whoa. WHOA WHOA man? We just met so. That's that's our problem. I see Mother that too strong but yeah. They're just as good good as it gets. Yeah see that ball beans you could. You could do that ball. He's like not interested. Has He ever made any attempt. No I'm shocked. Every time he runs a little. But I'm like Oh my God. Excuse me he gets Zuma's. I'm like what what what just in a bit of a hustle. Yeah I can't well eight plus plus for both your I. I can't even send net dogs growing up. I had a dog Like maybe like seven to twelve and then my dad made us give it away that that was so sorry. Yeah I'm sorry thank you. We've got a few guests who've been great you've got you've got a sweet disposition about it but parents if if you can't get a job let them keep the black lab named baby who growing up and then fifth grade. We got a Scottish terrier uh-huh though he named Pinski which is like a Hebrew like term for like little thing like pits. Go like a little small thing So he was named Pinski and he was a little Scottish chariot like classic where you're at the Scottish terrier and he. My grandmother at the time was like I don't want to get a dog. I Hate Dogs Dogs Doc. Whatever my one grandmother? My grandmother had three French poodles. Sure I'm your co captains but the other I don't like dogs talks okay And then she got cancer and she was She was in the hospital. We would bring the dog to visit her and she started like gaining affection for the dog. Yeah and then like by the end of it like. She had a framed photo of the dog in her hospital room. And then like we would bring him to visit her and then we would just leave like she and and then when she was in kind of like a hospice situation in her home right we would just leave the dog with her and he would just lay on the on the hospital bed so like towards the end. He became like her dog. Aw Yeah Wow that's I'm so sorry but also that so beauty was so crazy on like she did not want to see a dog hated him at first and then as she got sicker like their bond it became like super close and she would like call him her grandson and get him birthday cards and style and then like when she passed away. I think we were like there was awhile where Pinski was depressed. Yeah yeah it was really and then I think me and my mom because we love my grandmother were both unduly affectionate action. It and doting on on Pinski after after my grandma passed away because we were just like this dog is her spirit like the inching night for a while and then he had to put him down when I was in college and it was like very traumatic because it was like she was dying all over my mom. We're losing it never. We're just on the one hand like the most incredible beautiful thing in the world but on the other hand it's like why do we do this doors house man. I know I talked to beans everyday. I hold his head and I go. You're immortal it's so crazy. How immortal you? I can't believe the one dog. That's not gonNA die every day. Same same same. I could talk to you girls all day long. Can't begin to tell you how much I adore you but I will let you go so you can go regarding other podcasts Before we hear all about the stuff you guys have going on. Can we play quick game name that I love. Oh yes Let's go with the dog that you are thinking in your mind that you might have gotten a white pit bull or like an American bulldog type dog so the dog is big and he's white and I think let's go with a keep calling him. He but I think we'll go with a GAL. You guys are more than welcome to each name separately or you can work together to come up with a name for this bill. That's a female. My first thought was like a a flower of some kind of daisy or Magnolia. I don't know why I like. Daisy daisy feels right feels right. I don't know why yeah. There is dainty name. The big dog perfect. We've got a daisy in our neighborhood. Who looks exactly like An? Where's the little boot near on her collar? It is a door. You you know it. One Special Psychic skillets predicting dogs. We gotTA monetize this. Can you guys please again. I feel like our listeners. Like yeah I know I'm obsessed with them already Can you please let them know where they can find you and certainly Your podcast I which I think I couldn't find the episode number but it's October thirtieth I believe of last year was the waxing walks episodes. Love that one. You'RE GONNA love them all but that one in particular start with that on the podcast is called just between us and on instagram. It's at JBC podcast. And I have a podcast called bad with money which which is also on stitcher network. And I'm at Gabby being just a few snares like a human man by the way all through the night. He snores like a grown man. We're yeah I'm on twitter at Gabby done and on Instagram at Gabby road and then I had a book come out called bad with money and comic book. Oh that also came out called bury. The lead convenes is fully snoring just on Mike. Yeah what is weird. He snorts you've heard him SNORT attack right correctly. That's like yeah. I got notes. I wanted just the same and allison guesswork and find you Yeah just the just between US podcast in at Allison Raskin on social and I I have less accomplishments disagree. I we have to Waie novels called. I hate everyone but you and please send help. Get those those job girls all right. Thank you so much for doing this. Thanks for having us and our dog you know name yes I need you to go ahead and cue. The Dog News saw. Oh sure renting hold on let me just Put It on the record and the record player and dog knows eight and I what I like about but that song as smoking a cigar while you exactly also So sorry that was a radio and you are ancient. You are one hundred years radio show as you know everybody in the past is truly yes they were very old. Listen that's that's what the song is. I don't know what's telling you. Please tell me about this issue. It's pretty short but on Wednesday. So that'll be the fifth. I think it was The House passed a bill to allow. Va to fund service dogs thanks for veterans with PTSD Alexis. Yeah now the near as I can tell that is. That's exactly what it says. Obviously because prior to that I I would imagine that it was all like private funding and fundraising just like this. Little is trying to be like The puppies assisting wounded service members for Veterans Therapy Act would launch a program presenting federal grants to nonprofits providing service dogs to veteran suffering mental health issues. Yeah so yeah I mean that's the only so much we love it. It may normally. I might be like. They've found studies have found that You know exactly. How puppy is the title of the active dog? But it is puppies helping the vetter Buddy Buddy Buddy and credible great. We love it notes. What's this is not news? This is perfect. This is great news and this is political. Who'd well Alexis we did it? We did it. We made it to the end of another show very proud of us me to feel like our listeners. Have a busy week ahead of them so I don't WanNa keep that but I do like talking to him every week. So it's something of just like I don't want to hang out. Oh you hang up I but I know you guys should make those stop the podcast exactly. We're not going to do you okay. Does it up for God. Can you imagine an hour. I'll do I know you wouldn't you know no no in it's weird. What's the last guy to read all the dog news and a robot voice and I said you could ma-ma-madonna and I'll do it right really? No one person. Can you want well. We're on a budget. After the holidays. Right that's okay. It seems seems a very certainly not. That people didn't want that. Yeah I wouldn't WANNA be paid annoyed. Hello okay well. We'll keep an eye on it. I feel like I'm sure that's on. Its Way I would also like to. Maybe they don't Miss Anything. They're listening to find different. Think you're listening with sincerely. Hope you guys all right but again they have a busy week. We gotta let him go. We don't WanNa let them go but we got to let them go so I will say to you Alexis. Can I pet your dog. Can I pet your dog Maximum Fund Dot Org Comedy Culture Artists. Don't audience supported.

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