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March four. God rejoices to do you? Good. I will make with them in everlasting covenant that I will not turn away from doing good to them. I will rejoice in doing them good, Jeremiah thirty to forty through forty one. This is one of those promises of God that I come back to again. And again, when I get discouraged, can you think of any fact more encouraging than that God rejoices to do you good? Not just does you good? Not just as committed to doing you. Good glorious. Is that is but that he rejoices to do you? I will rejoice in doing them. Good. He doesn't begrudgingly fulfill the promise of Romans eight twenty eight to work everything together for our good. It is his joy to do. You. Good. And not just sometimes always I will not turn away from doing good to them. There are no lapses in his commitment or in his joy in doing good to his children to those who trust that should make us. So glad but sometimes it is hard to be glad. Our situation is so hard to bear that we just can't muster any joy. When that happens to me, I tried to imitate Abraham in hope he believed against hope Romans four eighteen. In other words, you look you're hopeless situation in the face and say, you are not as strong as God he can do the impossible. And I know he loves to do it for those who trust him so hopelessness you will not have the last say I trust God. God has always been faithful to Garrod that little spark faithful me and eventually not always right away. Fan it into a flame of happiness and full confidence. And Jeremiah thirty to forty one is a great part of that joy. Oh, how glad I am that what makes the heart of almighty God. Happy include doing good for you. And me, I will rejoice in doing them. Good.
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All right, welcome. It's dish in the rich Eisen show or live on the air two days. One two days before the divisional playoff weekend kicks off between the sixth-seeded colts in the first seat in Kansas City Chiefs, and as always usually between the time that the wildcard week and ends and the divisional weekend begins when we see most of the coaching vacancies, get filled, and they usually get filled fast because there's a lot of competition for head coaches same head coaches, and then there's a couple that get kept open because there's still some that candidates that are still active as coaches in the NFL and their current roles coordinators or whatever they're doing right now. But interestingly enough right now, I I don't think there's been a single coach hired in the NFL so far that was deciding between two situations. That there was any sort of competition that somebody else the only one is really cliff Kingsbury that the jets interviewed and mimic cardinals had on their radar screen and everybody thought even was with the jets that he was going to the cardinals. Anyway. And the reason for that. One would think is the same reason why Freddie kitchens was retained and Matla floor was brought to Green Bay. And also the reason why last night the jets filled their spot with Adam gays and in a way, why the buccaneers hired Bruce Arians is because you're hooking your new head coach up with your quarterback. And in the case of Matt leflore in Green Bay a goat quarterback with about five to seven more years left. If shelf-life in the case of Tampa, you have a former number one overall quarterback who's about to reach that spot where he needs a contract extension to stay put, and it's not just any first overall quarterback. It's a first overall quarterback who had a red flag or two and Florida state and then. Had some off the field incidents in Tampa, including one that had him suspended for the first three games of the season. Jameis winston. And then if you can't rehabilitate his image, and if you can't certainly rehabilitate his game than what are you going to do down there in Tampa? And they brought in a guy Bruce Arians who loves the kid as he said yesterday said he could win it all and I'm sure he's about to repeat that at a podium in about two and a half hours when he's officially introduced as the new head coach Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Brazilians, then he got somebody like Matla floor in Green Bay where he's going to get hooked up as I mentioned with Aaron Rodgers. And you see how that might work Adam gaces now the new head coach for the New York Jets. Part of the reason why they did not take the leap of faith with Matt rule. The head coach of Baylor. According to all reports out of the metropolitan area is that match never done it before at the NFL level the staff he was saying he would be bringing didn't have much NFL experience. And I guess the jets despite loving the ability skillset personality leadership skills of rule were a little bit concerned about handing off their second year quarterback now in Sam darnold to somebody who's never done it before at the NFL level. So you turn Adam gays who had Peyton Manning apparently pounding the table for him. As the new head coach of the New York Jets. Ryan tannehill wasn't going to do that. And so. Even with Ryan tannehill being in and out of the lineup and even him being in Miami. Where the roster was in flux half the time just a couple of games under five hundred and just three years. So in the same way that you for many times didn't think you could evaluate Ryan tannehill. Because he couldn't stay healthy and up the jets felt that they could evaluate Adam gays that he's been in the league. He's got Peyton Manning pounding the table for he's beaten Bill, Bella check in his house with Jay Cutler for crying out loud. So that's got that going for him. So go ahead and take the head coach who has Peyton Manning telling the jets front office that he's a great quarterback whisperer. And that's your guy for Sam darnold. And so clearly when the Arizona Cardinals. Asked the USC. Look, you know, we we want your guy we we know he was a Texas Tech and got fired and you hired him as an offensive coordinator. Because he's one of those. Below forty mad. Scientists schemer wonder kipnes just like Sean McVeigh. We want them. We'll pay his hundred fifty thousand dollar buy out. We want them. Let's blink bring cliff Kingsbury to the NFL level, even though Texas Tech bounced him, and he's never been a head coach the NFL level. And you assume the reason why is you're going to hook him up with your second year quarterback that you drafted in the first round in Josh Rosen. And it's not as if there's any video of cliff Kingsbury out there talking about the Heisman Trophy winner. That's everybody thinks is going to play baseball. But is now rumored to be set to say I wanna play in the NFL put my name in the draft. It's not like there's any video of click Kingsbury back in October saying that Keiler MAURICE should be. If given the opportunity drafted first overall. It's not as if there's video whole number. I'm being told there's exactly video of that Rollet Tyler. I mean, he's a free man thirties of really good young player. And he's going to be a tremendous player calories. A freak and followed him since a sophomore in high school and just think the world of him and what he can do on a football field. I've never seen one better in high school. And he's starting to show it now at the college level. I don't have enough. Skip things said about him. He's phenomenal. I've never seen him have a poor outing not one which quarterbacks it's impossible to do. But he's done it. And I take him with the I figure the draft. If I could I know he signed up to play baseball, but he is a dominant football player. And I would I would take the first pig sit. Well, what what what what what October twenty two thousand eighteen cliff Kingsbury head coach of Texas Tech getting set to take on Oklahoma and Kyla Maury had that to say, no, I know. Being a longtime Michigan fans Dicko so far back in my day to the day where Lou Holtz at Notre Dame would be talking everybody up rice was gonna was going to give Notre Dame a hell of a game. I'm telling you that rice team that rice team marketing team, I'm telling you we're gonna we're gonna we got we got to keep I mean, not right team can come in here. I mean, how many times have we seen coaches talk up an opponent? Every week now cliff Kingsbury was at Texas am in two thousand twelve as an assistant before he got the job in two thousand thirteen at Texas Tech. And in that year kinda Amaury was a freshman in Allen, Texas in a high school. And I'm sure he was definitely on king's varies radar screen as the head coach at Texas Tech. So he had seen him for some time. But who would have thought on Tober twenty two thousand eighteen that the head coach who actually does have the opportunity to select a player I overall in the draft is none other than cliff Kingsbury and within an hour of that video hitting Twitter word hit that Kharlamov on Sunday is going to announce himself eligible for the NFL draft a deadline for that is Monday. Now, we all know he's got a contract to play baseball with the Oakland A's. And Scott Boras said he's going to play baseball, then he won the Heisman Trophy, and Scott Boris kind of backed off a little bit and said, well, there's some options here. So if Kyle Amaury does not report when. You know? Rookies, I guess when would say report. In mid February the as have an opportunity to say, okay, you can still go to the combine. He's going to the combat if he wants to play in the NFL if he is saying I am going in the NFL draft. He is going to be in Indianapolis, not because the scouts wanna see him throw and run. Of course, they do. But scouts want him to a take physical and see what's going on in that body has and be looking in the eye and say how much you football. I know you you're play baseball. And you're great at it. And the fact that you're putting it all at risk by senior coming to the NFL. I get it you you love football. But do you wanna play baseball? Because if you're gonna be our quarterback in the NFL last thing, we want to see you do in June and July is, you know, ride the bus getting ready to try and be a major league. Or if you're talented enough, you know, take that ten game Rhody to gangqi stadium. And then down Tampa, Florida. I mean, you you need to get in our playbook. You gotta get in our locker-room. You've gotta be our leader. It's got to be one on the other day and age of Bono's football and baseball and was one was a hobby in the other one wasn't that's over. That's history. Certainly if your quarterback. And what does it mean for the Arizona Cardinals that this video surfaces? The kingsbury. I would I would choose him first overall. He can choose a player I over on. Obviously Steve com is a lot to say about it the general manager that's still there and the Bidwell family that went ahead and chose Josh Rosen. First round last year, a source close to the situation tells me Rosen's not going anywhere. Not going anywhere since why waste of pick on Cuyler Murray. I don't think they will. But that video is fascinating. And if you don't think that's going to cause all sorts of questions Kingsbury was on good morning football today. Talked up Rosen his throw or whatever there's no way in my mind. The cardinals hire him. Because he went into the room and put in front of them a plan for Kyla Murray. I don't think they do that. I think they put a plan. They put a plan in front of the cardinals for Josh Rosen. I don't think him coming into the bid wells office. The Bidwell family office would Steve time there and say, I know you one and done your coach, I think he also need a one and done your your your first round quarterback from last year too. And here's my plan for it. So we're gonna take column is five foot ten first overall. And you need a higher me and pay Lynn Swann a hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the right to do that. And let's go. That sounds completely beyond the realm of possibility to me, but. You never know copycat league bakers like five eleven he went up one last year. And I don't know Maury might be five ten ish ish, right? I'm shocked that he's thinking about the NFL why he just won the Heisman Trophy. It's an intense sport. I mean. Heisman Trophy and never NFL, Pat. No, I I understand that. But he did go to the NBA. That's what I mean. I know. Daniel Jeremiah is going to be first up. He's calling it about six minutes time. He's also, by the way, the radio analyst voice for the Los Angeles chargers. Going into New England to kick off divisional Sunday play huge game slots to talk about what DJ who's going to be sitting next to me and the combine booth now it may Aachen the front office of the Oakland Raiders or San Diego, raiders, Las Vegas, raiders or the Tottenham raiders were Mexico City. Right. There's a lot of raiders out there for whichever one. It is may ox the general manager. So how good is Kawamori is at all possible. What is he hearing? Like, I said, I would find it hard to believe the Kingsbury got the cardinals job by saying we're we're going to go in a different direction from Josh Rosen. Let's trade. Let's figure it out. Let's come up with a plan Steve com to raise his stock as we can who wants Josh Rosen now and take Lamari number one overall that would be just mind blowing if that actually happens last Thursday of April in Nashville, Tennessee, how many teams raise their hand though and say we'll take Josh Rosen. I think if you wouldn't you didn't you have a list of people that would throw their current quarterback under the bus for Trevor Lawrence or or to or to fifteen fifteen teams. Do you really have that fifteen? I can't wait to get to that today. Tom Izzo is gonna join us the Spartan legendary head coach, we'll talk a little bit of college basketball, sixth Spartans. Got a little work to do to catch the wolverines. You gotta to lead. Yeah. I know. Michigan does not play Michiko. Michigan state does not play Michigan. I will say that out of respect to our second our guest until the end of February. Why? And then March ninth is the latte last regular season game of the year is Michigan at Michigan state a do play twice. But not 'til very end. It's like the Panthers and the saints in this year's regular season. Kind of. An hour. Number three, Joel truly o of Brooklyn nine nine back on the air. If you're if you're sitting your DVR for FOX, you're gonna miss the show, it's on NBC, and he's a diehard jet fan at one rethinks geese. The headline of the New York Post today for Adam gates. I guessed in advance. I called my shoddy Ruthie type shot as well. Explain all that eight four four zero four riches the number to dial here on this edition of the rich Eisen show. So here's a timely stat. For almost half of us make a New Year's resolution every single year we've all made them and most of us have probably broken them. Whether it's to get healthier save money. Get organized we start out with great intentions than a month later. We slip a little than a little more happens to the best of us. 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How are you DJ? I'm doing great rich. And I just wanna know if with Mike not be in there. We'll still have the same assortment of snacks and goodies up there. Well, mayo was and this is this is I don't think it's ever been put on the air. He was addicted to Mike's. So are you are you are you a Mike and Ike person as well DJ? You know, what I I actually would be more of a junior guy, and that'll open up so many avenues for Seinfeld conversation. So I think that's the way we're going to go refreshing, by the way, that would be the first Seinfeld conversation I ever have in that booth because if it wasn't stripes, or if it wasn't sugarhill gang may opt did not understand it as you know, DJ so hits though did I look forward to a by the way, I just look forward to to all of it. And I guess we can have our first draft conversation right now. And I'm sure we're going to have it, and you might not have much more clarity between now. And the time that Kyle Amaury looks like he's going to be at the combine. So let's start with this is Carla Maury first round draft pick worthy for a kid that may or may not or were expected to hear his name thrown into the NFL draft. Ring is an eligible player by this weekend. Well, look if you went back five years ago and asked me if a five foot nine quarterback would not only what would get drafted would be. You know, would be probably a stretch a first round pick. You know, people were just been laughter. But it's different. It's different right now underway to lead this gone. And with his unique skill set. Absolutely. I think somebody will do it. He's not for everybody. There's going to be some people that will have to have an issue with the height more than anything else. But he is he is electric in terms of his athleticism and arm strength is aren't Francis. Off the charts we've seen with Baker Mayfield. Just how strong his arm was. We was good rich. But it it's it's he's got one of the better arms in the NFL. This is every bit the same arm strength. Now. The difference is the reason why the faker he's not Baker Mayfield. He's not as accurate just the pinpoint accuracy that we've seen from Baker Mayfield at Oklahoma. And we saw it in the NFL this. This is. Not the same level of accuracy. And and don't don't send me the completion percentage. And all that because that has nothing to do with under stocking about all placement. That's a little bit off. But yeah, he's somebody will do it. Absolutely. Somebody will do it. So someone will do it. What about Arizona being one to do it? I'm sure you saw that video that's clanking around from October. When at the time Texas Tech head coach cliff kings, very talking up. Kyla Amaury saying I would take him with the first overall pick if I could. And now look who really can do that. Daniel, what do you think? I I'd be shocked if it happened a couple of different thoughts number one. If if they were fully leafed and cliff Kingsbury and really went all in with cliff Kingsbury, don't you think that they would give him the freedom to hire. Everybody wants to hire. And now you can hear that that's being run a little bit from the front office in terms of leaning on the front office in terms of of who they're going to bring in Sistan coaches. But yet now you're going to give him. You give him to veto power to say out with Josh Rosen. It we're gonna bring in by that given an awful lot of power cliff Kingsbury, I just don't see that happening. But the other side of it is you got to know Josh to the draft process. I got an all of a little bit don't they need to come out in the next twenty four hours in refute. This I mean 'cause Shifter's sceptres big name. And I know he would just kinda floating it out there. But he's he is a he is very respected name for that thought to even be out there in the universe. If I'm Josh Rosen. I'm sitting here saying they better come out in the next twenty four hours and say, Josh our guy or I'm going to be pretty upset. I don't blame you DJ at all. And your furring what Adam said on on ESPN this morning's saying that he thought it was not out of the realm or these quarterbacks are commodities the way that he put it cliff kings, very was on good morning football today and didn't flat out come out and say, yeah, Josh is our guy did talk him up about all of. His abilities. I don't think I'm missing anything here. DJ? Yeah. No. I to me, I it's just floating out there. I don't think that's gonna be that's gonna make for an interesting watch to the Josh Rosen quipped Kingsbury early if they don't come out there and say, look, this is crazy. We took this kid in the first round last year. We totally believe in his ability. And and we're moving forward him any thoughts. The you know to the contrary is crazy in our focuses on with this first pick. Whether we select here, whether we trade out is to surround Josh knows. And with the support he needs to win. And then so while we're on the subject of rookie quarterbacks. And and and new head coaches that are going to be attached to their hip and or veteran quarterbacks that are tach to new Nucor coaching hips. Bruce Arians in Tampa cliff Kingsbury in Arizona assumedly with Josh Rosen. Adam gates now with Sam Bradford Matla floor now with Aaron Rodgers. And I'm gonna. Just take Freddie kitchens out of the mix right here. Because obviously he's been with Baker. We've seen what it looks like which one do you think has the best opportunity to succeed in in the manner in which management envisions it through the interview process? Actually, think the flu and Rogers is going to be the best marriage. He's gonna run it's that Shanahan scheme Iran's. You know, what you take throw out what you saw in Tennessee 'cause they kind of had what they had do there. But that is a that is, you know, it's joked about the connection, Sean McVeigh, Sean McVay comes from shannahan three and think about the year that Matt Ryan at under tile Shanahan now. Take that same same ofensive approach input. Aaron Rodgers in the role of Matt Ryan. I mean, I don't see how Aaron Rodgers doesn't just post ridiculous numbers in that system. So I think that is a really good marriage. And I actually think probably the second one. I I don't know if you could have found a better spot or a better human being to pair, which is Winston than what they're able to find Bruce Arians. He is like the perfect guy to get out of James Winston what you need to get out of him. Why just enough of simple Fisher? I mean think about tennis stylistically JIMBO Fisher's personality and kind of swagger that. Jimbo Fisher has. That's I mean, that's what that's what areas brings to the table. I think he's gonna fuse Winston with a lot of confidence. He's gonna he he's gonna believe him. And I think we'll see the best James Winston. I really do obviously meant Sam darnold. Not Sam Bradford. That would be a heck of a pairing for the jets right now gas and darnold Bradford, I know I ever count him out. So what do you think of the gays higher Peyton Manning pound the table for for him as a quarterback whisper for for darnold? What do you think of that pairing? I think it's good. I mean, I'm you know, I'm all in on on Sam darnold. It was before the draft last year. I thought once he came back from injury you watch that team as close as any. I thought you got a glimpse of what he can be. He's he's a special special talent. So, you know, I think it's going to be able to get it out of their biggest thing again, as you know, rich they've got to get some people around him. So that it's not gonna matter coaching that team unless they go out and get some help up front and get him some more health to throw the football too. So I got a chance to really work Adam data's been. He's gotten a lot out of Peyton Manning. You got a lot of g Cutler early on down there in Miami. He had tannehill plan really well and then injuries just kind of set that team. I mean, I kind of threw out the season last year for dolphins that they're they weren't very good to start with. And then all the injuries just kinda crush them. Daniel Jeremiah here on the rich Eisen show. All right. Let's remove your NFL network. Former scout draft analyst hat and put on the. That you wear with Matt money Smith in the local radio booth for the Los Angeles. Chargers seeing the chargers as you have the match up that you like on behalf of the chargers going in New England is what? I think they match up extremely well with the patriots. And when you're kind of cross the board. You know, the challenge is going to be the patriots are gonna come out and try and jam it down their throats, but if they can get in pass rush situations with Tom Brady, and what they've proven what they can do with boatswain Ingram sliding in. They have China DeVos who outside Isaac for shell. They're situated. We you. Go back to the Super Bowl that they struggle with. You know, the games with the with the giants to me inside pressure is what gets the patriots. And I think the what the charges have done with Gus Bradley kicking those two guys inside. I think those are that heavily favor. The chargers, they just they gotta get third down. So they gotta find a way whether or not they're gonna play the four safeties again or whether they throw some linebackers out there. They've got to find a way to get the patriots in third and five plus if they do I really liked the chargers matchups there. And then on the other side of the ball, you know, rivers people have kind of crushed rivers. They play his best ball. Coming down the stretch, rich. But man, the defenses with the two games in Baltimore in the past wrestler, the Broncos and that that's what kind of gave him fifth. I don't think the patriots are going to be able to generate that type of you. Don't Philip rivers. And I think they'll have some opportunities down the field. Stephen a Smith just told me hunter Henry's active for this game. Daniel. I know he's been terrific. And so in all seriousness. What what do you think he can bring to the table Sunday? Well, the biggest thing is speed. You know, he just he runs so much better than than what they have right now with within Tonio gates Virgil green and virtual creates been kind of an unsung hero with the job. He doesn't run game. He's outstanding as a blocker Antonio's playing his best football in terms of getting open and making plays down the stretch. But neither of those guys are really going to be able to stretch team and really really run in stretch things out. Henry can give you that. Now. I don't know how much it's gonna play. It's five plays ten plays twenty plays. I know both when he was coming off that long layoff, they kind of targeted twenty plays. And I think he ended up playing thirty two plays in that first game. So you know, what target is? And I think that'll be justed based on how he feels. But I haven't -ticipant maybe about twenty naps while the charges at one games in four different time zones. And the the only game that they've lost outside of their home stadium is here in Los Angeles deejay that said it looks like high twenty. Nine low seventeen coldest game of the year for the chargers that affects them how do you think? We've been fortunate all year. I mean, this is a team that went to London and got good weather. I think it rain when you came after. But it was nice weather in London. Nice weather in Cleveland. Nice weather in Kansas City, and Pittsburgh and Seattle. It didn't rain. I mean, they just had just luck all over the place with weather. Yeah. Cold is fine. I think as long as it's not really wet. I don't think that big of an impact I think they'll be okay with the weather. Okay. And self scout. The chargers can be beaten by the patriots. How what do you think Anthony Lennon that staff was in hunt? Gus Bradley or are huddled up thinking about right now. This team is going to be won or lost stuff. What the patriots do in the red zone. The patriots are death by a million paper cuts offense run run throws. I don't feel. Okay. The charter said which pushes which which is all the importance on. Can you get stops in the red zone? If Tom Brady can get gronk going down there in the red zone. They're scoring touchdowns that feel the patriots win charges have been pretty good in the red zone that that will need to continue if they're going to sneak out of there with the wind. Okay. The other games this weekend. That's our poll question. Right. Chris today. We haven't asked yet asking Daniel, Jeremiah go for DJ who has the best chance of an upset this weekend. Chargers. Colts Cowboys eagles which road teams got the best divisional chance to think. I work backwards say the eagles have the biggest salads that's gonna be a tough one. I don't think they can pull that one off. I think it would be between the Cowboys or the Colt, and I would say probably say the Cowboys would have the best just again styles make fights. And I think their defense can could match up pretty well with its Rams offense. Yeah. You take the charges out of the equation there. What do you mean by styles make fights for that game? Cowboys at Rams well to me, I think with what the Rams are teams can get to the perimeter. They can get to the perimeter with with early in the run game that you get to the primer with those flights sweeps the ball gets out, and they stress you to be able to run inside how and the Cowboys are quick to do that with those two linebackers with with Smith band rash. They fly to the perimeter. So I think that that works in their favor, and what works in the cult favorite. He think. I going to be a shootout. I mean, I I don't know what I'm a hot take bear. But I mean, I I just I look at that. I think both these teams are score bunch. I I think the colts have a legit shot just because they're working against defense. That's a little more vulnerable. But then the other side of it you've got haven't been around coach read with an extra week. Those numbers are pretty darn impressive. So that's a pick them at the pick him to me. But it's we don't we don't do the gambling thing. But lots of point. Well, I'd be remiss if I if I let you go without asking you our poll question that we asked coming off of the national championship game just to Michigan college in the pros. We asked this question DJ, and I'd love to get your thoughts on it. If you had to buy stock in a quarterback over the next ten years. Your choices are Trevor Lawrence to Tago vilo or any of the drafted quarterbacks in this past year's draft class in two thousand eighteen you would choose which answer. Well, I'm gonna be to and I'll get grief for it. But I'm gonna stick to my guns and says, I just I really believe in Sam darnold. He's young man. He is really young. But I I haven't seen. I saw that Trevor Lawrence up at a high school camp up at the the opening in gas two years ago up in Oregon, and then he is pretty special now. I mean, he is he is he is really good. So I I'd like I'd like to be able to split my stock if I could. Is that it was that an answer? Darnold. Darnold. Darnold is my one by one is is that useful flowing me down there, Clemson heart. I gotta just ask one more time here. I mean, what why Donald? I mean, what what have you seen certainly from this past year? We saw that that opening night and Monday night football. When it was so insane how well he was playing. You texted me or called me because you wanted to get a contact high from jet van that was one of my favorite calls of the entire playing season day Jay, but we also saw that he got banged up. Get come back in and make some very nice throws in some difficult spots and some games that didn't really mean anything in the standings. What what what do you see for the future out of him? Then I think the thing that would get me most excited about Sam darnold was look with that offense looked like without him. I mean, they have nothing. He moved them competitive. He's mentally and physically tough. I don't think anybody can just that watching them. If you watch them this this year. He can make every throw. And then his improvisational skills. I think are are what set him apart and making pretty special now the challenges with Mike McKenna, and they got a good some help. But I believe in him. I believe in him in a big way DJ safe travels to New England and back and we'll chat down the line. We'll chat down a lot about a chargers team that has just been looking terrific lasting, rich. I just I heard I know I think it was a TV rejoined. But you're listening to listening off your Adam headline. Yes, I wrote down to nineties references after a big win Ghaith in your face. And then also after big Sam darnold game, we could play a little ace of Ghaith a. I like that was on the side. Yeah. Exactly. He's a great backpage headline ace of gas is really something we need to play that just put a pin in that one. That's fantastic. Good job DJ. Thanks for the call. You got ace of gays. I mean, by the way, by the way, the first headline. It's not really a back page headline unless they wanna feature the story inside, sir. The sports section, but. Is is at the quarterback coach relationship. Sam's, adam. Sam Adam is a New England tab, but Sam Adam on tap. Maybe they go to New England for the first time exam atom on tap if they beat New England at New England or Sam Adams tapped. Yeah. Maybe I don't know. This is good ones. The best one. We saw for the radio audience. We mentioned on the TV side of things how I threw out some because I mean, Adam geese, you've got a first and last name that is absolute end play thing for anybody writing a headline in New York City class gates. Unreal. It's great. So I threw out some headlines that are usable absolutely usable including the one after in advance of his press conference. I said it's Adam's apple and the back page of today's New York Post. Adam's apple. Did say the sub-headline jets. Choose fish failure gays to be next coach. This failure. 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It's played on Friday nights by high school athletes across the country with danger of repeated hits to the head is just as real ten years before the NFL lawsuit was even filed an ambulance in a small, Oregon. Town raced to get to a hospital one hundred fifty miles away. Inside is a high school football player may max Conrad. He's unconscious after taking a hit in a Friday night game following behind. The ambulance is his dad Ralph the whole way he remembers pleading with God, I told you I will never watch another boxing match. I will never watch another high school football game. If there's any way take me not max, I mean, I was bargaining marketing max played quarterback for the walled poured fighting Irish. And that night he been tackled. Hard in the first half the hitman him confused and punch drunk after the play. He wandered into the wrong. Huddle teammate pulled him into the right one. Max head and slept the night before because a headache from a concussion in the last game kept him up. Then at halftime as he was walking off the field. Max collapsed max died who got I shouldn't say that. The mass. We knew. Left us at eight PM October nineteen two thousand one there's a different max now Maxwell up after months in a coma. But his brain never fully recovered. Doctors determined that max suffered what's called second impact syndrome when a person's brain hasn't recovered from one concussion and their hit again, the second hit puts enormous pressure on the brain. When Max's dad Ralph learned what happened to his son? He was determined to do something I was to raise awareness by convincing. The media to do stories about max, then he teamed up with brain injury advocates to work on legislation in two thousand nine Oregon along with Washington became the first states in the country to pass concussion laws. Oregon's was called Max's law, and it was designed to protect high school athletes as soon as he or she appears to have been concussed his required to come off the field, and you don't go back in period, you have to be checked out by Dr it's now been almost ten years since Max's law was passed in every state has a youth concussion law on the books. Most say players suspected of having a concussion can't play or practice until they give their school clearance from a medical professional. We wanted to know if these laws are really preventing. Series like maxis and to see if all the records schools have on concussions can teach us anything new about protecting kids. Leave and do let a year long investigation for our partners investigate west in Oregon's Pampling media group. We recognize that potentially were sitting on a goldmine of data that nobody was really looking at. So what did you do? Exactly. Well, we asked for two years of these records from all the public high schools in Oregon that's two hundred thirty five schools, and we looked at which sports had a lot of concussions at which schools, whether they had happened in big districts or small ones we also just wanted to see who was following the law don't states enforce it, actually. No, there's no enforcement mechanism. So at minimum. We thought this could be a really good audit. Do people do this. If nobody checks. Lease colleague in the project is Sergio almost he wanted to follow a football player who played the game after Max's law was passed. That's right. Oh, I wanted to see if there were any consequences of the law that weren't easy to see in the data. So I look for someone like max someone who played football in high school got hit in the head more than once. And that's when I found Jonathan bolan. Jonathan grew up in working class neighborhood called park rose. It's on the edges of Portland near the airport. Not a part of town, the tour spend a lot of time, and there's a little more poverty here than the rest of the county and a lot more diversity most kids at Johnston high school are students of color Jonathan's family, home is a small square nineteen fifties house with a tall, evergreen tree out front and a big backyard. I'm in the living room looking at family photos with his parents Jimmy is our oldest Jeremiah Jonathan in Jules Jonathan's father, Jim Bohlen to he likes to joke around you want to hear something funny to Jimmy was born in July. Jeremiah was born in June in Jonathan was born in January girl comes along messes it all up March. I planted that way. Rene Jonathan's mother things Jim jokes around too much. There are different in other ways to Jim is tall and white Rene short and African American he drives trucks for living. She's an educational assistant in fifth grade. Jonathan turns to his mother when he wants to do something dad won't allow I found that team in Tikkun there. It was a wreck team flag football. He practiced with them that evening, and we got into car on our way home. And I say do you like it? He goes. Yeah. I do. But that's not gonna let me play I go. Well, I'll just take you without debt knowing Jim didn't want his kids getting hurt playing football. So Jonathan and his mother kept it their little secret. And until finally he had a game. And I encourage dad to come watch him. And when he came out to watch him he saw how good he was Jonathan was good at football from an early age, but his neighborhood high school perk rose was not very good. In Jonathan's lifetime. They made the playoffs once the year before he started high school. So they were on the rise and Jonathan came along at just the right time. Johnson wore a medium jersey and a thin moustache. He was short for football, you still growing, but he was talented enough to play varsity as freshman year the next year he took over as quarterback so often was when I started to take plan quarterback. Seriously. Let's say that going into camps gin my own personal quarterback. Coach hidden weighs heavy in quarterback drills. Every day when Jonathan was in games as quarterback software year park roses average score per game. Doubled compared to the games he had to sit out and the team kept getting better. Resurgence of the Bronco football team. And has Dan Christoffersen reports he doesn't plan to stop until they reached the playoffs. You see that in the way Jonathan Molin plays the game with passion and Stein. Rene remembers one amazing play Jonathan pulled off the first play. They hiked the ball to Johnny went straight down the middle and scored a touchdown. Didn't even look at anybody. He just got the ball into off running ninety seven yards scary. But he can do it. He did. The messy about running the balls a quarterback. Did you get hit a lot every play every single time? I my scoring or former running out of bounce yet. I was getting you remember the first concussion? Us. As back sophomore year. You. Concussion number one. Jonathan is tackled near the sideline to him concussions feel like this just as slowly news. The fog people say you see stars. I see stars. But you know, the stomach ache usually throw up after concussion stomach hurt the centers for disease control and prevention lists those as classic concussion symptoms. So what exactly happens to the brain? Here's how CDC expert explains it for parents and players on their website concussion is a change in how the brain functions. So it's not a structural injury. It's a functional injury. When the body or the head is struck the brain slash around inside the head, and it changes how the brain works concussions can affect people's memory and make it hard to think. Clearly, the CDC says they can trigger mood behavior or personality changes concussions in youth sports is important because you're talking about a potential threat to the. The development of that youngsters brain. When Jonathan gets his first concussion sophomore year. It's three years into Max's law. He was pulled out of the game as the law requires. He went to a county medical clinic. Parker is high school ten days. After getting hit note show, he was given a cognitive test and he had symptoms of a concussion, but the test itself is not in the files, and there's no record of a follow up test three and a half weeks later. Jonathan turns into doctor's note. Clearing him to play. It looks like the law was generally followed here. But the paper trail is incomplete and in our review across the state. My colleague Lee found that a lot of schools keep sloppy records. When we got hold on the request the condition of the records was in some cases, just really rough like Henry notes and really inconsistent record keeping. And of course, good records. It's not required. But it certainly best practice and at the end, it was really hard to be confident and how well the laws were being followed. Honestly, that's your sort of shame. I mean, who we have this potentially great opportunity to learn more about concussions and student athletes in our state, and we're not really learning anything from it. And we looked at Jonathan's school Parker specifically these days park rose is among the best organized we found, but that's under a new principal from Jonathan's time. The school says it simply has no records other than what was that. That kinda clinic. They don't know what happened in the schools department records on concussions for all the. Ears. Jonathan was there. So after that first concussion Jonathan's mom Renee started to see changes in her son. He had trouble focusing on his homework at school. He would go to the nurse's office when he needed a break he was allowed to lay down rest as much as he needed to because of the concussion that was an informal arrangement. Unlike some states, Oregon doesn't require schools to have an academic plan to help athletes who've had a concussion return to class gradually. It's junior year and Jonathan is back on the field. His team has a realistic shot and making the state playoffs. It's Friday night in late October the plays a quarterback draw. Jonathan runs up the middle to linebackers. Make the tackle on him and come down on his head Rene, the stands and sees them go down. He didn't get up. When I got there. His helmet was off. He'd just kind of land there, Danny? The paramedics were talking to him me tried to open up his eyes. And he couldn't he said the light was too, much and. In the last thing he kept saying was Iran coach mal, you told me to run Iran. You know, he was apologizing now that he's injured he's apologizing concussion number two. This time. Jonathan went straight to the hospital. He stayed overnight. Jonathan watched his team from the sideline the rest of his junior year hospital records show, a doctor when Lennon play or even workout for four months when that time was up Jonathan went straight back into the gym training with the former park rose assistant coach teepee Brown who had become a mentor, and friend coach Brown says that it was slow going with the headaches. You really can't do too much with the running the pounding. So as you run a little bit walk. He might lift a little bit. And then we're doing mobility words. So it wasn't as rigorous as soon all like, I said on normal training regimen was Jonathan pushed through headaches to rebuild the strength. You wanted to be one hundred percent for senior year and not just for the sake of playing football. He wanted to be the first Kim this family to graduate from college. And he hoped that football would pay his way for Jonathan that men doing anything to get a scholarship, including downplaying. Concussions because I know as a college coach being around him. They don't wanna athlete has a lot of injuries especially concussions because they will you know, how many you can get into retire. When Jonathan returned his quarterback senior year, the Oregonian the local newspaper called them as good as new Parker's coach MAURICE, France notice coach MO told the paper Johnson was back to his old self Jonathan's. Mom, saw something else going on Jonathan was taking four to five I profit or at the before every game. And when I found that out then I was telling coach MO about it. I go. I don't think that's healthy. I don't think he should be doing that. He goes. Well, if you take her to paint in it makes him play better. Yeah. But fortified ibuprofen that's not good coach MO told us he thinks he would have sent Jonathan to the School Athletic trainer. If Rene raised that concern, he doesn't remember the specific conversation. It's halfway through the season. Jonathan takes another hit his helmet knocked off. He sits out a bit. But then he returns to the field boy marshawn, and it was just I give your trip in your heads. Missed his friend marshawn talks to the coach and John think it's pulled out of the game park roses. Athletic trainer goes up into the stands and tells Jonathan's father, Jim that his son may have a concussion concussion number three. But things fall apart from their Jim forgets to tell Renee, and Jonathan doesn't tell anybody. In fact, Jonathan tells the school trainer he went to the doctor and was okay. The school double checks with Rene. She's called into a meeting. And that's when she realizes Jonathan has been lying. She's furious. I go there's only one thing to do. You're not playing in the playoffs. You're done. Right. When I said that the athletic director and the nurse who works in the health center, say wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let us run the test on him to see how he's gonna be in two or three weeks whenever the playoffs was starting. I said no because if he's not gonna tell me the truth, and if I'm not gonna find out he's done. So she goes let us run the test rename I say, so why am I here Jonathan's third concussion brings up a weak link in Max's law? It relies on students to tell the truth parents and school staff to follow up and everybody to put health football. I was frustrated because. This is my opinion. They wanted a quarterback. They wanted a football team. Jonathan wanted a reputation all of play together. The former assistant coach park rose teepee Brown thinks that's just the way. It was back. Then the concussion protocols were just coming into play. And there was not as much stigma around concussions as it is today. So a lot of that stuff wasn't being taken seriously as should have. But at this point Max's law had been affect five full years and coaches were supposed to get concussion management training every year as for Jonathan. He didn't want to think about concussions. He wanted to think about his performance on the field because he knew that colleges were watching this this black black. Let's go let's go that's Portland state university football. Coach Bruce Barnum roaming the sideline at a game. He's a big man built like an offensive lineman. He thought Jonathan. Be worth a scholarship. So he goes to watch the park rose homecoming game Jonathon senior year that night. It was raining. Just a goalie washer he was a quarterback. It was a star of the night via everybody every time. He did something the crowd cheered. And you know, I wanted to see everything how you interacted and not a one soul. Could I find to say anything bad about Jonathan bolan? I saw I would treat his mom. You know that night, you know, he had them rela four he's in his uniform, sweat, and you gave her flower. He was everybody's all American that night. Jonathan's concussions. Didn't worry the Portland state coach. Because when we bring them in two hours or spent with our trainer, so I don't judge any of that. They do all that. I just get a report. Yes, he's fine. The few weeks after homecoming Barnum and an assistant coach knock on the door of the bowl in house. They walk in and right away Jonathan hugs the coach thinking the first will Kutu ever. Hug me. And I'm like that's just me, you know, because they give you a hug me like to have is. You feel in that moment. Just like this giddy. Lag a little kid on Christmas. You know what I mean? 'cause I noticed the happened. My dreams about the country. You know? So Sergio it looks like the risk Jonathan takes by continuing to play actually pays off. He's going to Portland state university. And I want to bring back in your colleague Lee Vanda who for the big picture. So Lee you lead the investigation into Oregon's concussion law. Jonathan got three concussions playing football. How typical is. We don't really know. The law doesn't say anything about tracking repeat concussions and school records. Don't show that a kid can get two concussions at one school and move to another with a clean slate. But I can tell you. Well, I was surprised at the number of concussions in soccer. For example, all the head to heads football remains by far the big one. Our data showed something like six hundred concussions or suspected concussions over two years at schools that gave us enough good dated us six hundred knocked heads is that a lot. Well, if you break it out, it's roughly fifty concussions per thousand athletes. So inactivity is the person who enters those in a spreadsheet one by one I can. Tell you that sometimes it really looks like a lot five per game four per game through it looks like a car crash more than a football game. But I mean overall Oregon numbers compare pretty closely. The only state that does any kind of comprehensive reporting on student concussion, and that's Michigan. Most states are like Oregon. They don't do data collection. So you're the first ones to put all this data together. When you looked at it were there some schools that reported more concussions than others. Yes. We found that if a school has an athlete trainer than the rate of concussions reported at that school is about twice as high as out of school without a trainer. Remember? There was one at Jonathan's school. He went up to the stands to talk to Jonathan stat after that third concussion. These are people who have some medical training in their job is to look out for school athletes. Now, there could be other factors play. They're like maybe the size of the school. But experts in other parts of the country also say that they've noticed athletic trainers. Make a big difference in noticing and reporting. More concussions in Sergio. Do you think? Max's law made a difference. I mean, did it prevent Jonathan from getting hurt? Like max getting hurt like max. Yes. In a couple of ways one of them was education Max's law requires high school coaches to get concussion training every year. And as we talked about schools today have to pull kids with suspect concussions Atta games or practice until they get medically cleared. So you could argue that Max's law protected Jonathan from that kind of injury second impact the kind that derailed Max's life, but we found that Max's law has a blindside that still leaves athletes like Jonathan vulnerable. And that's where we'll pick up the story in a moment. Sergio and Lee, thanks so much. Thank you. Thanks. When we come back Johnson's concussions catch up with him in a way that nobody sees coming into the war. 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Impe are ex this is reveal I'm outlets and today we're talking about concussions and the laws that are supposed to protect student athletes in Oregon the law seem to work for Jonathan bolan. His young African American quarterback who had three concussions in high school was given time to recover from each. And then went on to win a football scholarship to Portland state university. When he got there. Jonathan didn't play right away. He red shirted his freshman year the official way to sit out a season. So he'd be bigger stronger and better trained when he started as sophomore Jonathan's first year was fun. He got to know a lot of his teammates had a girlfriend did allow socializing. But there were also times he'd retreat from parties to a dim quiet room to rest for study plays reporter Sergio almost of our partners, investigate west and Pampling media group picks up Jonathan story in the August before his off more year. It's two weeks until the first game of the season. And Jonathan is excited. He practices knowing he's finally gonna play in a college game. He plays receiver running drills against the first drink defense. Jonathan goes up to catch a pass and false. I do like fade as I was going back like Kat in a failed Bank and just hit my head Choson. And I am not again, you know, what I mean concussion number four. Jonathan doesn't say anything, but his head is hurting. As soon as practices over. He goes home to the house. He shares with teammates just off campus Jonathan's rooms in the basement and night. There's like this beam. It was in my basement and allies and I'm walking down the stairs smack my head on that triggered did earlier that morning would would you feel definite head rush? Blurry. Nece, you know, a stomach start hurting couldn't go to sleep couldn't go to sleep at all the next day. He tells the team trainers what happened and they put him on the university's concussion protocol rests than light exercise return to play when he's ready Jonathan expects to bounce back. But almost a month later records show that he can only run ten yards before the headaches start. It takes Jonathan thirty nine days to pass a standard cognitive test. The team sends Jonathan to a doctor who clears them to go back to contact. But Jonathan still doesn't feel right. He goes to see his own family physician than his coach to coach Barnum. And I just I just wanted to tire. I'm scared. First time I ever said I was scared to a coach. And I am I was scared in football. You know, Bruce Barnum is the coach who recruited Jonathan the guy Jonathan hugged when he got the scholarship. This meeting is emotional as well. I remember cheers office when he couldn't play any more, you know, because of the concussion situation he needs to walk away from the game. Coach Barnum decided to keep Jonathan on scholarship and made them in assistant. But he was off the team. Barnum new is going to be tough for Jonathan leave the game he'd seen it before. His disconnect is hard to explain you've done it for so long. And now a sudden bam is taken from you. I got a few days after Johnson decided to retire from football. The clerk at a mom and pop convenience store. Calls nine one one. It's near Jonathan's house the place where he regularly by snacks, and drinks. This just walks in to to defense, and he said opened the door gave me the money and all your black. At four the next morning. Another call from a different convenience store. This time near park rose. By gun point, black Hispanic Asian. Blown as far as you could tell. Yeah. But two people ran out after them third night. It happens again on the Gun Talk. I don't even know guys get away with. Not any more than about forty five. Maybe. Police circulate photos from surveillance tapes. One shows a muscular young black men in a Portland state tanktop, a police officer who sees it happens to fall college football, so three weeks after the robberies officers show up to Portland state football practice and take Jonathan to headquarters for questioning we were able to get the police video. You'd probably wonder why Jonathan looks nervous. He's sitting in this small interrogation room across from detective Darren Posey. There's a table with a box of tissues between them. Why do you think you're here? Any ideas? Ensure maybe can definitely. What? Do a little. Convenience or whatever. Oh, you're absolutely correct us. That's what it is. Jonathan doesn't have a lawyer with him for the questioning he never asked for one. Even after the detective tells them that he has a right to have one there Jonathan answers, everything describing how he acted as the lookout for his friend who had the gun then detective Posey ask Jonathan about football. Force stuff wouldn't happen with you know, the concussions and not being able to play. He tells Jonathan he wants to understand his frame of mind. The appointment kind of. Out. Obviously, you feel bad about it. I I can tell the Jonathan doesn't tell detective Posey much about walking away from football. Besides that he was pretty down about it. He says he was drinking and doing the drugs Xanax during the hold ups. But he says that he doesn't wanna use that as an excuse for the crimes the police asked Jonathan if they can search his locker, and he agrees as an officer heads out to do that. Jonathan asked detective Posey. What's ahead? So what's going to happen is? You're going to get booked. Jonathan puts his head in his hands and starts to cry at the end of the world. You can recover from this. He will recover from this. And and and we can you can mitigate this. Okay. Have you ever been arrested before for anything? I don't think this is I can tell detective Posey's, right? Jonathan has never been in trouble with the law before his arrest makes headlines the Oregonian publishes, his mugshot. Coach Barnum reads the article I was in shock three people arrested. Rob in a store. I'm like bullet for what I knew totally out of character. Jonathan's mother Renee reacts the same way, totally different. I that wasn't our child. Jonathan loves people have having fun. But that police report says annex molly's don't even know what that stuff is heavy drinking marijuana all that kind of stuff site. Wow. This do went up deep in. It's like what people are seeing in some NFL players erotic behavior and substance, abuse difficulty, thinking, and even suicide these are symptoms linked to brain disease known as C T believed to be caused by multiple hits to the head players who sued the NFL in two thousand eleven said the league suppressed information about CT and other brain diseases linked to playing football hard hitting numbers today in a new study about football and head trauma. Ninety nine percent of the brains of former NFL player studied were damaged out of one hundred for high school athletes. You might think that can cushion laws in Oregon and the rest of the country would protect kids from the effects of multiple concussions. But they don't the laws were written to protect kids from getting a second concussion before they've even recovered from the first they're not designed to raise red flags about symptoms that build over time. Not sure we can legislate that here's David cranky a lawyer. And brain injury expert who helped write Max's law in Oregon. Some people have terrible affects after two concussions. Some people have terrible effects after five concussions in to be clear. The medical literature demonstrates that somewhere around eight percent of people who suffer one concussion will recover fully from that concussion. So it seems the law prevents another max, but not another Jonathan Boland. As far as yet, preventing the effects of multiple concussions overtime. Yes. I think you're right. News of Jonathan's arrest spreads friends called offer the family support a local sports writer gives Rene the number for criminal defense attorney I called him. And the guy said, you know, before I can even hear our started talking to you sixty thousand dollars. I need up front. I almost fainted. I it was that was crazy. She talks to a few more, lawyers, but they're all too expensive. So Jonathan is left with a public defender Rene immediately brings up concussions the first day. I took him down there. I say I cope they're going to look at that. Jonathan had just had concussion with Portland state. Don't dismiss the fact that he's already had three the public defender orders neuro-psychological exam, the doctor who evaluates Jonathan writes that concussions had affected his ability to think rationally and that he was depressed from losing football. And he was able to substance use and negative peer influence the doctor. Wrote the Jonathan symptoms were likely made worse by multiple head injuries. Researchers are starting to look at the possible links between concussions and crime. There's pretty consistent evidence indicating that brain injury is a significant risk factor for delinquent behavior just shorts. Is Kamala gist at the university of Nebraska Omaha. He's looked at changes and self control and behavior in young people six months after they got a head injury. So we're seeing that brain injury resulting in temporarily at least lower levels of self control, which in turn is resulting in increased levels of delinquency study tracked. The impact of one brain injury at a time. I tell him about Jonathan's four concussions those injuries could definitely accumulate over that period of time, and we can see that they're much greater than the sum of their parts and association between concussions and crime, certainly has skeptics in part because it's difficult to measure these symptoms experts. Tell us that courts rarely consider any brain injury as. Full defense, something they would let criminals off the hook. But head injuries have been used to argue for lower sentences. Just a few months before Jonathan's case another Portland state football player assaulted two police officers and brought up his concussions in court. John was trying to do the same. That was my main or Yamin concussions. If I did not stop playing football. I wouldn't be hearing because that would be at a football game. It'd be football practice. That'd be doing something else. Other than I'm in. Rhyme in convenience stores. You know what I mean? Hearing. I'm. A week after his arrest Jonathan appears frizz indictment hearing he's wearing a blue jumpsuit and joins by videoconference from the county jail. Jonathan is charged with first degree armed robbery in Oregon. That means mandatory time for three robberies a minimum of twenty two and a half years. He and his lawyer worry about how a jury trial might play out. So they negotiate with prosecutors for a plea deal. Rene Senate on the talks, and I thing they said what we're not bringing in the head concussion. That's what the district attorney to ruined. We're not even making that issue here. Michael resear-, your defensive what did he say to the ages? A lot of times when they says stuff like that. He just kind of looked at my wool like he was surprised, you know, he gave that look like, whoa. He just said that. And that was it. The prosecutor's office told us that they did take the concussions into account in the end Jonathan pled guilty to charges. Prosecutors asked the judge for the lowest possible sentence. At sentencing judge Michael Green link asked Jonathan how the concussions affect him foggy vision can't see clearly eleven tolerated headaches everyday. I sit on the LARs. Strongly that given everything out. You little fact brought you. Doing. Really? And with that he sentenced Jonathan to seven and a half years in prison with no chance at early parole. That's the mandatory minimum for first degree robbery in Oregon. Gonna be should be that letter ship. Oh my gosh. Frustrated now back at home in park rose Jonathan's mom, Renee sorts through paperwork from his case. He's been in prison. Ten months at this point Rene can't help but wonder what might have been different if they could have paid a private attorney. She still hopes to somehow find a way to reduce the sentence despite the mandatory minimum my go again is to prove to the course that Jonathan's cussin' is foundation last spring. She asked his old high school park rose for video of Jonathan's games and any other records, they have she got this Email back day say Renee, we are here to support John one hundred percent. But in order for us to release any information, we need a letter stating that park rose is harmless of anything that happened to Jonathan. In other words, she has to green not to sue them. Rene was offended. But she agreed. We showed that Emoto. Couple of lawyers who call the request outrageous and probably a breach of law the superintendent who asked Rene for that promise has left the district and refuse to speak with us. Rene Caesar son regularly visiting him at Oregon state penitentiary. But she still struggles to understand how this all happened. She knew the risks of playing football. But she didn't imagine this. Sometimes she wonders if she and her husband could have done something differently along the way. I think in some ways not one hundred percent. And some ways we fell Jonathan to say what else do you love to do? You are more than a football player. I think we were also on the pedestal and and excited about Jonathan. Because of his talent his skill to a week. We didn't think about it. And it just kinda went overhead. Are not have contact with inmates. Except when this is including the purpose of the visit visitors visited Johnson at Oregon state penitentiary last year. 'til your name. From guard station, I'm taking into a conference room upstairs from the cellblocks. Jonathan. All right. Jonathan seems a little nervous but excited to talk. He's gained over thirty pounds since playing football lifting weights in prison, and he says he spends a lot of time in bible studies. Well, I asked him about what plans he has when he gets out. He says he's thinking about coaching football teaching the lessons that he's learned definitely preach about concussion. Definitely Preecha punking hurt. Definitely priebus. Speaking out. If anything's going on to a kinda wanna start new you know what I mean? Like right now. I'm glad I'm doing this. This is I wish everybody in the world could do. You know, go to jail, I really do. Because when you know, we have everything stripped from you can't even see your family. I guess you're not gonna take a lot of things for granted. Thanks to Sergio almost for bringing us Johnston story. Thanks to leave and who are partners at investigate west in pamphlet media group the concussions project is called rattled. You can find it at reveal news dot org along with a map comparing concussion laws around the country with risk from concussion. So high more people are asking is high school football even worse when we come back a visit to a community that says, yes. Greatest game ever played football. This is revealed to the center for investigative reporting and PR ex. From the center for investigative reporting in p r x this is reveal I'm outlets. We've been talking today about kids and concussions and weather footballs worth the risk. The number of high school students suiting up for football has dropped almost every year over the past decade, even as more students play sports overall. But I recently traveled to a place where football is much more than a game is young sound steel town Brownstown. See you raise starter. Fanny. Youngstown Ohio is about halfway between Pittsburgh home of the Steelers in Cleveland over the Browns young sound has its own t to the east high school golden bears all right outside for the full works. It's a freezing Thursday night in December about one hundred people gathered in church banquet hall for the end of season awards ceremony. The mayor of his city. I be honest, which I never thought I save is. I love these high voted bears. When he was a kid the mail went to another high school that was a rival of the golden bears. But his closed years ago along with nearby steel mills and a lot of other businesses in Youngstown. As a kids. Call to the front. They walked past roundtables, blue tablecloths and gold napkins balloon. In flower centerpieces are done up in team colors to tonight is a big night for Youngstown because the football team made the state playoffs for the first time since nineteen ninety seven, but it's bigger than football. Rick ships is the chief of athletics for the school district. We expect to revive through through the golden bears as we continue the success here. We want to do the same thing across town and bring back the same kind of pride for dish in there. So that's a lot of hope to pin on high school football and whether or not the golden bears end of giving their hometown, the spark. It's been waiting for. There is something joyful about watching fit. Happy young men proud of themselves and their team still. I wanted to know how concussions fit into this pitcher said down at a table with a bunch of players on the football team. Right. Yes. Sir. Had an amazing year. Yes. Yeah. Any of you guys like taking the heavy hit? Gotta gave a lot to give position DA. Any offensive play. So you take a lot of heads, man. That's running back. Tim davis. His mom benign Davis's at the next. How does that feel when when you see them going through and getting hit heart attack? Mike, my heart starts being real fast. Like, oh my gosh getting hurt I've been to a game where some of we ended up on conscious on a Saturday game. So it's always scary. But not scary enough to pull her own son out of the game. It's what he loves I can't take away what he loves. So mommy, you got a concussion when he was thirteen but you decided to keep playing tell me about that. Why why? Like. Maho life for like, I really liked the football. It was just like a passionate is I want the key planning. They keep doing it. And I just can't stop because my whole life, and this all I wanna do for for tips. Dad? The Wayne McCullough concussions brought out his sons determination. He just kept dedicating. And I I lived at about, you know, not give up most kids give up on just want. He's wanted to keep you Dwayne played. When he was a kid and tells me football kept him out of trouble kept me round wave what he's guys as in the streets. And you know, my mom was always only adds is. I just wanted to be part of the scene winning team. So enough from this areas a lot of trouble to be half, a young black men and young center. Yes. You don't hear about the killings? That's football mind. Viola Sheila there was a triple homicide shortly before we got to town the victims were close with some of the high school athletes. I mean, the only way I will end its life is either you get -education you play some type of sports and freida God that somebody take you under the wing, and then you get a scholarship and be able to get rich. I mean what else you got another choice either. You are you in prison for the rest of your life. As for the risk of concussions like let them get hit. Let's either you going to be rung or you'll be out there. Let him play on. Tonight's featured speaker is football pro Mike Flores saying. All teams he's from here. He played for east high school in the nineteen eighties. Then went on to play defensive end in the NFL, his speech goes down memory lane back to his high screen glory days. We grab him after an ask them about injuries. And I want to say this because you might print this, but actually spent thirty days in a brain injury facility because a concussion, so I wouldn't change a thing. Because football brought things out of me that I didn't know I it's a warriors game. It's you know, what you get when you get into it. the next morning. I go to visit professor Jessica Wallace. She runs the masters program for athletic trainers at Youngstown state university. She was at the Bank with two I love to be around these kids because sport me them. Feel good football made them feel good about themselves. Just did a training in Detroit and incident. Their help concussions in perspective. Are she was working with high school team? And after one game some players got beat up. They've been waiting for the city bus to go home concussion. A sport is like nothing compared to you know, the kid was in the hospital from getting beat up waiting to go home. Recent research connects multiple head injuries to long brain disease like dementia, but just argues that the health benefits of staying active outweigh the risk of football concussions. There's a lot of obesity, there's a lot of heart disease. There's a lot of diabetes and its due to inactivity. And if we take activities away that kids liked to. Do that. They feel proud doing. It's going to lead to a lot of bigger health related problems more problems honestly than the risk of getting a concussion. I was listening to professor, and he was basically saying that if your child has taken like two or three big hits you should not let them play in these sports anymore. Would you say to that? I would have to have to disagree just because. Knowing what we know about concussion like the big hit, you know, some of the bio mechanics, it is different per person. Just like, you know, somebody could break Abon, they can still play sport. Because the body has enough time to heal same thing with the brain. That's not always the case. It depends on a lot of things like your health. How hard you were hit was it a severe or mild concussion the treatment. You've got all of those things play a factor. Just tells me that in high school it's important to have an F leading trainer who can pull kids from play when they get hit and make sure they have enough time to heal then lines up with what we heard earlier in the show. Even in this heartland of football, some people wanna replace tackle with flag football at least for little kids. The town's flag football league went to the national's last month and brought back a championship trophy. I asked just koalas the professor at Youngstown university. What she says to people who think tackle football should end people who don't quite understand, the culture stuff there just thinking that you are sacrificing your children to this. Yeah. I understand that perspective. But I guess sometimes you just have to take a step back because our science has come pretty far with concussion. So I mean, our our definition are care treatment are follow ups. So I think that parents and other people should know that besides the big hits the third seeing on the game. There's a lot of really good things going on socially in healthwise that they should also start to consider rather than saying, oh, you're sacrificing your kids violence while you're sacrificing them to a lot of other really good things to. Players cheerleaders and the band back the awards banquet. Gary frost focuses on good things. He was a Golden Bear back in the day. And as a pastor now. The greatest game ever played football. The game that has the strange poll never know how so bowel sped you have to adjust about the ball life in football in Youngstown, Ohio. Thanks for listening to today show, if you wanna see how your state concussion laws compare with other states, check out our map at reveal news dot org. If you're wondering what you should ask your school about how it handles concussions. Text award football two six three seven three five. Once again takes football two six three seven three five. We'll send you a list of questions to ask your school and invite you to share what you learn with us. You can stop at anytime. Standard data rates apply are Lee producer for this week shows, Emily Harris talking till anita's edited the show. Thanks, John drive from the pamphlet media group thinks also to W E T as brain line for audio systems. Jacob Fenton, Sindhu Raga Rajin, Casey minor and Michael Corey provided research data analysis. 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