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#212 - Naomi Cooke from Runaway June on Living On a Bus as a Kid, Working as a Deckhand in Alaska and the Power of Mediation
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That'd be like well you know the girls can come but yeah we do stuff. You could have important have individuality. You could've played the Christmas party tonight. Darn it Whip Travis Denning. Plan's GonNa Complain Better. Yeah Yeah I was just stuff about you that I didn't know because we know which is a little bit not a lot not a lot not a lot but a little bit and you had mentioned before we went on here that you mentioned meditation and I was reading that you meditate has mountains. Is that true I have before is is that a every day thing. Do you find your nearest mountain. Trying to find him out every day No I really I really get a lot of Healing and fulfillment from nature. And so. I'm outside aside as much as I can be. I mean It's kind of. It's kind of odd but when you're on the road I mean you know this but you don't get get out as much as people think thank you know. You're traveling a lot. You don't really get to see as much so When I'm off the road I'd kind of go back out and travel and try to see spots that I haven't been to and I really love love to meditate nature? If I can isn't crazy you bring up a point that I think maybe people don't realize that as much as we travel because I was in vegas it didn't show in Vegas and it was was out and they're like House Vegas. I was like it could've been any city. The crowd was great and I love the venue. But you don't do anything except go soundcheck meet-and-greet angry do the show. You're so exhausted you go to bed then you get up and you do it again. You know another city and it takes a lot. It takes real intention to get outside of that little wheel because if you keep if you don't you'll just get in that little wheel and you get really depressed like depression is a real thing out there. You're on the same people you're in the same routine so I make an effort every day to like try to break that routine I get off the bus kind of before anyone wakes up and I just kind of do more you early Good Morning Naomi. I'm an early riser. And I wake up at three thirty or four every weekday but I do it because I have to ever because I want. I was till noon every day if I could but you're not like that. No I really just enjoy that time of the day a lot. It's like quiet no-one's blowing up my phone yet. Like I really like watching the world wake up. It's like kind of it's a meditation in itself. It's kind of spiritual I think so. Walk me through this. You come home a few days off you try to find a spot is that we're going to go and find some spot. My house no some woodland area squirrels nurse. Yeah no I've I've meditated my art a couple couple times. I think like meditation Some of the masters meditation tell you to get in touch with nature like get barefoot or or take a walk or something. It doesn't have to be elaborate elaborate So yeah meditated my yard. There's a little spot in my house that I find really there's like a good energy there or something And so I kind of do it there. I haven't meditate outside something home. So absent friends that do transcendental meditation absent friends that meditate with the APP and they believe even so much. They're all slightly different but they believe in it so much I have never meditated in my life never had some severe. PTSD for a long time. Where I got jumped held at gunpoint had some real issues with them house broken into so the doctor was like Asia? Really try to meditate. Because I tried everything. Okay Yeah because I just thought about it. Yeah I mean they were knows literal. PTSD where I'd I'd tried all this medication. Nothing was working and the doctor was like you just have to meditate. Try to meditate. I would sit on the bottom my bed and now it try as hard as I could. You know what happened to close my eyes and go no wonder which episode of the Office is on right now or I just couldn't separate myself from you know I'm I'm going to try to psychoanalyze you. But go ahead hit me. He but you're such an achiever. I think that you're trying to achieve something through meditation and that's like not really really what it's about when you start. I WANNA win meditation. How do I do I win? Nothing's happening why Manatt levitating come on. Bobby it's just a quiet yourself. I mean I don I don't have PTSD from being robbed. can't imagine but I'm sure I mean meditations meditations hold that helps a lot of people with that stuff for sure but what is the purpose and I asked this as serious and sincere as possible. Because I just couldn't do it. What is the purpose purpose of meditation? Like to you. In general to me I guess I can only speak for myself To me I'm so over stimulated most of the day That it's just a moment for me to quietly Quiet my mind. Quiet all the voices that around me all the time my own included. That's the loudest most of the time. just gives you a quiet space and you can back up and watch all of that stuff happening happening and not be involved in man. It just really gives you a perspective view of like it's really helps make clear decisions and you don't go on. How long wait? How long do you meditate? Eleven minutes. Because I'm really longer. I've a lot of questions now. Eleven minutes this okay. I do a lesson ten to thirty dollars an hour. I mean some people we'll do. I haven't achieved that yet. I really I can. I'm like okay. I'm good at about twenty. Sometimes it feels like an hour though The only time I've ever been able utterly separate myself was because I don't I don't drink at. I'm never like done a legal drug. I wish I wouldn't all of them like I just want to do them all at once. I just know that'd be the winner of doing drugs and drinking. I asked you that before one time we were stayed somewhere and I said you don't drink and you're like no I don't you're just not interested and you're like no I'm very I'm not a moral world thing it's like. I just know I would be the champion drinker or champion. But the only time that I've ever been felt like you're talking about go to the dentist and that will get so high on laughing gas. Oh my God no kidding. I'm not being facetious. Bit and I would be able to separate. I could separate all my worldly problems and I actually was breath thinking about the meaning of what it was the greatest moment of my life. It's pretty amazing. Those chemical releases are within yourself like I'm not going to try to they get all spiritual weird but it's like you can really unlock that stuff in your own brain. It's it's Do you feel like I do on laughing gas without laughing the greatest. I definitely feel better definitely feel better. It does feel like drug. Sometimes when you're when you're that stem over stimulated than your immune eleven minutes you're able to really calm yourself down you feel like a completely different person. Do Sleep well At times I do not. What a great sleeper Asleep better when I meditate. I've been ice bath to which has been insane all right here we go down this no god no cold old. I don't like cold anywhere like old inside. It is cold and I will keep my hair down but I keep a blanket over me. Why in the world would you get an ice bath? Oh man the benefits are wild. It's another thing. It's an antidepressant It like the thermal regulation for your body is is where you get like all this incredible You get your nutrient blood till I mean it's got anti arthritic anticarcinogenic really helps your skin. What are you doing? This is one of the gas station lately and it just dumping in your bathtub so it's not like buying ice machine now. I mean it's getting very expensive. Love you take ice bats for how long Three to six minutes. You're getting the real benefits at about two minutes. Let's and that doesn't feel miserable to. Oh Yeah but when you get out you just get like this rush that you're like it's a mental hygiene rushed because because you're getting it's like this feel so great being a normal human incredible you're GonNa do it. I can tell them. Oh Yeah I would've been. I played football in high school. We'd have to get an is bad and I won't be like this sucks and get every major athlete. Does these I I quit you. Don't cry cry cry when I was doing dancing with the stars and my feet feet and my knees were hurting and I don't know that it works but I don't know that it didn't go and do the cry when I would get in and get up to your neck and they go it's cold then you get out and you're like maybe it did not work. So why don't they keep on. I've heard that there's there's a difference between that that and actually water submerging because your body is made up mostly water. There's a difference there when you have kids. You don't have kids right now when you have a natural birth like in a creek or something. I mean really kind of funny. Five of us were born. Five six were born underwater. My mom had all of us at home. All of us were born. I'm asking smiling at home at birth. Yeah I'm really asking and I man I rang. Yeah is that the thing one hundred percent so why would you do it under water like what's that benefit well. The pain level is cut in half and the baby. It's really a lot healthier for the baby. Like really pulls back on all kinds of things that can happen during childbirth tearing. You want to get into this. Are we GONNA do whatever you want. Nothing scares me so I got to watch five my siblings born under water and And you know this. There's all this this crazy like you see on movies. You know childbirth and it's pretty horrific and movies but I never experienced that with my mom. She was like you know in a state of. She's really excited to have the baby. It was very calm down. was there all of us. Kids were watching And you know the babies in water so being born in towards breathing through real interesting I didn't think about being born into water is not shocking to the baby at all. I feel like the baby would feel like I was drowning. But I guess you're right in water already. Yeah should be born. So were you born in water. I wasn't born and water. No right after me My sister right below me on down orborne underwater have any siblings siblings have ten. That's crazy and I. I knew that answer to say yeah. That's great so where do you fall in the list of kids. I'm number five five and like I would be in the middle. Technically Pearls amid all the one right below me oldest is how much older than you. So my oldest brother passed away a few years ago but he he would be thirty nine and your youngest year and the youngest one is eighteen just turned eighteen. Wow Yeah thirty eight. 'cause we're all even even half of the year we're all even numbers. Half of their all odds a Christian would have been thirty eight this year. And so and I know a bit of your backstory. A lot of audience may not it yet. But you know an interesting picture that you posted a picture of the bus that you put on your instagram. I guess maybe two months ago so And there was a picture of the bus and you lived food in that bus. Yeah for how long we lived in it for like four and a half years little less than four and a half So nine no I was just. I turned nine in the bus so eight to twelve. So why why do you get on the bus. And where does the bus go this. How long is this podcast? As long as we want. Okay so we got on the bus. This this goes back my mom's amid wife when I was growing up And she delivered. We lived among the Amish communities for a longtime 'cause she delivered babies for the Amish Amish. We weren't amish but we lived we. We went to church. We were involved in the community so much because my mom that You know to live among them. You have to kind of look like them. And so some of the Amish sensibilities were okay. Very plainly But we weren't aren't Amish. We still had a car My Dad worked for the for the State Park. We we were kind of just outside of it but they didn't really care because my mom is so valuable to these communities And she's really young she was like you know sh taboo stolt the midway everything at this time And this is before social media in any of that. So she got her. Her Mentor had a woman die in childbirth with her and she got charged with manslaughter which women die in the hospital. All the time it's childbirth And so my mom got got scared that it was going to come down her to and Her and my dad. Just it's kind of packed up. Sold everything packed up and they went on the road and my mom taught seminars on like natural births and child rearing and living living off the land and and by on the road. They bought a bus and everybody hopped in. And where were you living. When that happened we were living in Virginia at the time? And so she's he's like all right we're going and how does she tell you. Eight nine years old a right time to get the bus working at. We're heading now. We're going to travel and all of us were stoked we We were very adventurous. Kids my you know my parents let us be adventurous. And we were really excited. It was only supposed to go for about a year or or two and then And then it just kept going kind of went It didn't it started off really good at ended ended kind of bad. You know what I mean. What are you doing for school though like how we did home schooling and then like the last two years? We didn't do school very much. Honestly what what do you do all day as a kid traveling around with the family on a bus so we lived in national parks and we explored. We played outside We did schooling like few hours in the day and then we like just we were just out. We just played in the woods. It's true so you're sleeping in beds that are. I'm assuming just kind of build all beside each other. Yeah my dad designed the inside so it was. We had a little kitchen and bathroom. And then you know bunk beds and a little a little front living area where to futons came down. There's plenty of beds but it's crazy even for me in the bus that I'm in now and how sophisticated that is not a house uh-huh right right right It's it's crazy to think that that we did that for four years and such the primitive state you know crazy and the bathroom situation on the bus we have ather. Yeah and we had a little septic tank but I mean we we. We weren't in it a lot really unless we were moving so we would. We would go outside or in the state park stuff. Could you build fires. And uh-huh like you learned all encouraged to build fires all the survival tips. We slept outside. Oh you did time almost every night. Yeah and and being in a national park did the the park ranger they come up and you'd like have relations Park Ranger and be like what a park ride John. Yeah I mean so interesting. Some of them them there were a couple of times and so I'm really young here. Granite like I'm eight so I'm I remember certain bits and pieces of this like some of them. We were in for a month. Some of them were there for two weeks so like if you have a long stay in it in a state park you kind of like go to the corners nurse Right There's a lot of human interaction there. we did meet a couple other families that were living in buses to believe it or not and and so we were kind of like hang out with them for a little bit about the way. I'm GonNa play a limited music. I'M GONNA come back to this. Let's do by by my own drinks. The song for you guys on that back this. We were rich. Songs longs really good at the rich a lot. Here's this one really early on me. And then here is the current single head over heel the song to sing right now in a show within settlers. A song called trouble with this town. That's been kind of a little bit of a little sleeper. Deeper people. Love it it's I. It's a part in the show or I'm really kind of like jacked ready to perform that one and it's just really fun I feel like a Rockstar Star. Last night. You did a guitar full. Is that right with a bunch of phone God. We did a guitar both Luke Bryan Luke Combs Riley Green and Rodney neons. It was crazy it was it was nuts people. Flip out over these guys whose crazy. There's a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. If as the lead lead vocalist. You get a cold do they. Can they hop in a bit and take some of that could they. If you blew your voice out could one of them senior parts for a show of they they had to or would you know we gotta cancel the show. We've canceled before it's been really rare. We've been blessed I. It's so funny. Every time we go go to Vegas I get sick. Literally every time I just pushed through it or You know we'll crank the harmonies upper something but yeah they. They don't sing my parts to so we do crank cranked up the hormone. There are little places where you know. I'll either just changed the notes around to if I have to. You guys did. Hey girl crush at the same as last week's really cool. Yeah part of that whenever you are on toward carry which you guys just wrapped up. Does she get you guys call into Tori. After what she gave us. This great gifts she She had like she gave us plaques. We're kind of like the size of this. And they have pictures of us with her from like the first time we ever matter all the way to the end of the tour and it was really beautiful. I prefer gifts like that. Something I'll have my entire life There was a lot of thought that went into it. I loved it. Oh it was really great. Let's go back to the bus and the early line very intrigued. When does Music Star so in my my My mom started my parents started making tie-dye this great. It sounds crazy. Even coming on my mom The the seminars stopped the inflow of that stop. This is before the Internet and stuffy nose so once my mom kind of moved out of that area where she was famous. It kind of started going away away And so they were getting created. My Dad was kind of working on the road. He was doing handyman staff and And my mom's like fell in love with tie-dye so she started ordering tide is and We found festivals and so my mom and my parents would be selling tied. I would sit out in the festival my guitar and and I have a little bucket and I would play songs like on the street corner for tips like early. I was eight and a half yet one guitar and That's where it started. I mean how did you learn to play guitar. Where was where was that the I here's a few chords whereas I come from? There is a girl who was my age In this kind of like hippy. Commune Call me in that. We happened upon who taught me like three or four chords on the guitar and it just I just started playing. It's kind of funny people. Ask me how I learned just kind of taught myself that I don't ever remember guitar being hard. I just like I got the cords. I was like oh it just really click easy clicked really quick. Piano is a little harder. Qatar I just felt so natural even when I was little it was like wrapped around it. You know is huge at what stage though of you being a kid and playing music you realize one. I love this but to actually pretty good and not in an arrogant way but oh I could probably pursue this in. This could be alive for me. Yeah I was. I was about nine. When I was making tips tips? I was like Oh my God like you can do this and make money you know so I loved it And there were there. Were Times where you know. We were completely lately broken. Couldn't put gas in the bus. I would go out and play my guitar. And we'd got you know thirty forty bucks and we'd be able to move on And that gave me a lot of confidence as a kid I was. It's like wow I can. I can help my family looking back. I'm like full gnarly but At the time I was like I knew then I do this forever. I've done lots of jobs in in between but I've always done music. What do you? What's what's on the jar over here? Is that charcoal vinegar. You taste from an eagle herbal and face. That's it you know when someone goes tasted and I gotta tell me anything about what it is. It's an herbal infusions. It's got tons of chlorophyll and right now. No pissed off. It'll be Mike. It always tasted okay. So it's a little bit better but also kind of water base. Yes it's like a I guess you described along come on it. Looks like molasses so dark. This is a good badge. What you know what? It's actually pretty good so wait. What is this? And why are you drinking. So this is This is nettle leaf and Oat Straw and come free and it's just a herbal infusion mix I I drink when I when I'm feeling like my body's depleted worn out I mean my mom's making these for her clients and when I was little I was drinking less than a sippy tippy cup. You know I'm talking like suit like this is way before this. You know whole foods was barely a thing then but yeah I've been drinking that stuff for a a long time. She's still drink. Some your mom does. Yeah Oh yeah. We're close to your mom. Does she have cell phone. Yes listen look at me tonight. Like my mom doesn't know I'm asking these questions with genuine curiosity because they don't know she has a cell phone and she has instagram and facebook. And it's like Oh mom what does she think about what you're doing in where you've gone and it's a good question you know. It's funny people. Ask me about ask my family my my siblings that and they're not really surprised and I don't mean to sound an away by saying that but it's not like I didn't win the American idol or something like after working at target. I've been doing this literally since I was little So I think I'm surprised that that I've gotten here a lot of times but also it's like you know worked really hard. It's like people ask me you know do pinch yourself and I'm like no I feel the same way. I know exactly what it took to get this. I don't wake up and go. How did I get here like frigging now? Oh and there's a lot of hard work and sacrifice and it still is and I. I Know I love it that you say that you know people. Can you believe that you're on. TV there. Grinding out flying back and forth healing myself I yeah I bet I do believe it. It's almost like there's some way that we're supposed to be ashamed to say that and I think it's because Maybe other people don't want to see that that grit part that we've had to do. It's not as glamorous But you know they they wanna think it's kind of like a lottery of it's just not it's just not true like you know. This takes a lifetime of dedication and and giving up giving up a plot and also gaining a lot but yeah I don't I don't pinch myself my name is Ron Burgundy and that's a very big deal. NBC comedy is a big deal to not as big as my deal but pretty big nonetheless. Just there's noticeable drop-off from my big deal to their big deal they are still technically a big deal NBC. Comedy Oh the things I know about this part Gasden you don't I'm GonNa give you some straight dope here. The podcast world is as successful and you can quote me on that the assorted world. Strange drifters drifters which. What's the difference between a drifter and a greater I don't know anyway? 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A little bit honestly And and he would sleep all day and and couldn't work And Depression is debilitating. It's a real thing people die from that to So we were stranded there. My mom was like doing everything she could to work. I'm playing guitar. My brother was roofing with A crew of Hispanic guys my sister. We were just kind of like trying to survive that we ended up getting enough enough money to be able to make it across the state where we had some friends in Tennessee and we landed in this little like dilapidated farmhouse. But we'd always lived in like broken down homes like I. I don't ever remember having more than one bathroom in our house But it just felt good to be grounded again and like we had a mailbox and it was like that the whole thing felt felt like we. My parents marriage might work out. They really start to fall apart toward the end of the bus. And yes asu. We landed in Tennessee and lived here for a few years. My brother my brother was in prison while we were in the bus and he came back to that house and lived with us for a a little while. So there's a lot of good memories there even though Even though to look at it or to be there even then it was like you know pretty gnarly. I think but I have a lot of fun memories from the House as a kid. If you're thirteen and fourteen you know the pressure is what you WanNa be when you grow up. What do you want to be when you grow up? Where do you what was At thirteen or fourteen when someone was. Hey what do you wanna be. Now what was your answer to that. I wanted to be a country singer and it felt. It's it's funny you. You mentioned those ages because that's the age where I started to doubt. This could ever happen because I just didn't know. I thought that you know you had to have voice lessons or you had to have rich. Parents are connected someway. I just wasn't at all I I did get some music lessons from some friends of our family who who recognize that. I had talent and hunger and they wanted me to to pursue that and so they paid for me to have lessons for like two months and that really just gave me more confidence but I did. I wanted to be a singer. I didn't even know what that meant but I wanted to be an artist and a singer or an oceanographer for the always one. Weird thing you want to be the kids it's W- yeah your your story in my story definitely have some parallels in in the thinking process because I grew up a poor kid in Arkansas. Nobody around me did anything near what I wanted to do. Remnants of your story well I just never ever no no from other people in their Thereby wrong I made the whole thing. I grew up in Pennsylvania but I I lived in a town of seven hundred people in Arkansas and it was a food stamp kid but nobody around me was ever doing what I wanted to do. I always wanted to be a comedian and a radio host and and I always I wanted to do all these things but there was nobody to tell me that I could do it. Nobody was going to say I couldn't and I didn't know how to do it. you know as you're like you want to be a country singer and how do you. How do you become a country? I had no connection with either. I WANNA beg to clean radio station and so that's is what I did in that in you know what's interesting about. Your story is like how in the world when you have no connection to the outside you get outside to become a country singer so I started gigging. I was about fifteen. And what is gigging mean where you are. Where are you in Tennessee? This point so we moved to Florida. So you're in Florida right so my parents my brother passed away in a car accident And my parents marriage just didn't survive that And so my mom packed all of us up and we moved to Florida And she raised nine kids there and we had a greenhouse that we all ran We were close to this little island called Cedar Key. Probably like I I say close but about like twenty miles And I got a job playing my guitar. I there was some other. There's another kid there that played his guitar some of the restaurants and I was like okay. I could do that and I had a guitar. Add no equipment And I had some friends there that were like kind of like meddling musicians I call That let me borrow some equipment and I just started playing at some of the local restaurants. And that's where I started. gigging would you see big eyeballs when you would sing meeting starting to yeah Yeah I did I think I'd I'd I got that for a long time. People didn't expect that I guess for me to have as much. I've really sang with a lot of passion. I think for my age. So you're fifteen or sixteen your the plan shows. Do you kind of feel like I'm good enough to do this. I just somehow got to find a path Yeah I thought about going to school. There is a lot of that too you know. I just didn't know what the next step was. I didn't really believe that I could go to national. That seems so like some anything until don't do anything it doesn't I feel like real life. Mrs Felt like how do I do that Maybe I'm not meant to do that So I had a little bit of a detour for where I got into a car accident. I was completely broke And I got a job offer to be a deckhand on salmon boat in Alaska and so I went up there for is by the way. Are you on craigslist. Like how does it offer come through like a random offer a decade in the state. Nowhere near you. More anti offer at the local Chili's I get it there's a ritz nearby. There's someone looking for people to come like. I was a waiter for a long time. And you're like Oh you need somebody somebody I'll go but it's our hundred and get a random all your in Alaska who. Where does that job offer? Come from. So I'll break it down. We when I I saw in Florida writes. There's a lot of people that fish My my Stepdad. My mom remarried. Sorry it's a little jumbled okay so my mom got remarried and he went to Alaska every year and had been doing it for about five years so he went for the season and he called in the middle of the night and said that that their dad can had fallen into efficient fish hold and broke his ankle and couldn't work anymore and they needed somebody really fast and by the way I mean I've been on Fishing Hillary. Thanks Oh my God. I can't just you clean that you you're fishing. You're driving live in the boat. You're cooking you literally do every and they wanted you know offence. You're like five foot three tall. Are you five three. Yeah and so. You're like five three and they want you well. They didn't want me just. I was the first one that volunteered. And and And I think wreck knew that I had some great and I was tough enough to like withstand that. I didn't know that I was. I had no idea what I was getting into. This was like the gnarliest hardest thing I've ever done in my life life But I flew up there. I'm glad that I didn't know what it was because I I wouldn't have gone you know I don't think I would have So I did that for summer and then when I came back I felt really clear about like okay. If I can do that I can move to Nashville like I can. I can move to national. I can play music like what if it doesn't work. I'll never be as poor as I was before this and like like what happens if I if I do like. Who knows? Isn't it crazy too. They're such freedom and I look back now being so poor as a kid I was always like you know what the worst thing that can happen is where I am now on. You know all right so bad being poor you're always like what is what is there to lose because again if all this goes away I figured out how to survive on very little MHM and so there was a it was a dangerous person. Yeah someone who has nothing to lose. I can go back to nothing. Yeah I was happy there around mess with me and I felt that way a lot. It was what's the worst thing that can happen. I go back to where I've already been. And yes and that was my normal. So you're in that spot again. I hear you say that that resonates with me because I felt the same way through my life. And you're you're there and Wendy you finally league all right Nashville. We go and then what car you go in my God. Okay so see. What card I have I bought Blazer Blazer that had no? AC So I only I only made like five grand and Alaska which seemed like so much at the time I bought a blazer for like twelve hundred bucks and I. My sister lived in Nashville with her boyfriend at the time and I went and lived in her basement. Drove it up on How now I think I did this on? Like two hundred and fifty bucks literally like nothing And I just I got straight to national and I just walk down Broadway just handed out these little demos that I had made in Florida and I got a job at Ted sees like two days later and so you go a new singing. That's how many like like for four hours spot. Yeah doing the four hour thing. Yeah Yeah I did that but you know that one that one had its own challenges But I did learn how to work with the band and work bigger crowds than like a learned a lot down there and then I started working at the airport which is like a totally different thing but a lot more money a lot lot more chill. Okay I'm interested in both of these so you're working towards these people come into Turkeys that you go man and if you would know who they were and you go man and I just would like what I'm doing. They could actually give me a shot. That ever happened when you see somebody that crowd like artists or publish at footsie's yes it's funny I didn't I didn't I did see Deana. Carter commend one time. She was so cool and she came up sang with a girl who was singing strawberry wine when she happened. Like walk. Doc in she's so cool I never saw I never saw artists like Like like Oh my gosh. If they could just I kind of knew that's not how it worked And I had met songwriter in Florida. Who is a Nashville His name's Rob Hatch and he said some really good success here And his wife worked at sea sack. They really really mentored me While I was cleaning houses and working titties I was I was writing and like they really they. They really helped me that I never saw I did I saw Joe Nichols. You'd be surprised not a lot of people go into Tutsies but the people that I did I just knew that's not how it was gonna work work wasn't going to happen like that for me. What was your song? Where did what was the song that was once or twice a night? You'd sing it and you knew that's where you get a twenty or so you knew then when you saying this one though some Romani wagon wheel really. Yeah actually I would have people request it and then tell him that it was a fifty dollar song and they would they would pay for it every time they loved it. Let me back up just once I can. You WanNa get to the airport when you're on a salmon boat. Do you have a boyfriend. I didn't have a boyfriend now when you're doing in moving around the country you have a boyfriend. I didn't date a lot. I didn't date a lot. I think I. It wasn't like my focus. Salmon catchers farmers there were like. Here's the thing when you're in Alaska on that boat. There's not like if you're having interaction it's like you don't sleep there. It's you're going twenty ninety two hours. You're going absolutely the legal limit of not sleeping And then a lot of the other people fishing there Russian and there's some other alaskans skins but you just really you're not interacting like you're just fishing and I never I never even got onto land. I was literally out for five weeks on the water. Were you ripped muscular in great shape. I wasn't good shape or would you eat just fish. Fish straight out of the net. We had some stock. You know stock. I had you know we ate rice. not a lot of grain mostly fish mostly raw fish it was the best fish the most nutrients you can get. That's crazy it was. It was pretty crazy. UK So you uh-huh tootsie airport. So where how do you get the job at the airport. Someone see you. Yes so a guy that I was playing with at Tutsies on on Music on on on Broadway. He kind of told me when we were count on our tips one night that he was going to start playing at the airport. I'd never even heard of the airport. Yeah okay okay. So you're in you walk by and it's always somebody singing about version of walk the line as you're trying to get the Gay twenty-seven it's some guy singing walk the line every time so it's so you're and he says he gonNa work there yes he said he was going to start there and I was like why because I'd been to the airport. And he was like said I heard the monies way better and like I can make my own hours. Whatever was like okay? We'll let me know how it goes. Well about a month later he came back and and I was like. How's it going out there? He was still doing gigs on Broadway. There's like a little club of musicians that do it And he said it's going great. I'm making bank. I like Lovett. I'm not having to perform hard and I was like Okay so I really started to think about that. I was dying to get off of Broadway. It was like just suck in my soul dry. I didn't feel like I was going anywhere. it wasn't meeting anyone and so I I requested if I could just try it and started working and I like it was so different and so much better money better so much better. Why that's weird? Why because the people that are coming into the airport a lot of them? Don't get out don't get to get out to nationals. It's like the first little piece of national they see and there are enamored And they buy your emerged and they like love that piece of Nashville. It's like so unique and or they think they might be. You know tipping a future superstar So I I I don't know I just really had A. I had much better experience there and I. I only did that about six months. So you're there six months you're paying the bills Working to the security thirty every day and do you have a different badge badge. They gave me a little badge but I mostly had an escort. Yeah so some walk you through school you get walk. Walk through at the airport and then win. Does it go. Okay I think this over. What was it? What was that step? I started cleaning houses And I just wanted to. I just wanted to get out of the Tutsi circuit. It was just killing me. I wasn't able to write So I started cleaning houses more and that allowed me even more time on my own And then I got a tyler Farr cut with before I had a publishing deal and it became a single single so I got a little bit of a break. What Song Better and boots? Yeah Yeah It didn't get super high on the chart but it was a big break for me the time so you have oh no publishing deal had no problem. You get a single with a major artist. Wow how did that did you get that right. And what was that whole situation so the songwriter is telling you about him and his wife were setting me up on Koa rights and trying to get me a publishing deal And that's how that happened. I was in a writing room with Justin Moore at just more And Justin Wilson and defender and so not only. Does he go. Hey we're going to put this on hold we're going to cut it then it's a frigging single. The publisher companies started going. Oh she has no publishing tool we should. We should get on this. Oh yeah wow good for you. Yeah yeah thanks. That was. That was a huge huge stroke of luck. But I I do and I think you believe this to like luck is preparation meets opportunity. Only and I was busting my ass. I still am but like it felt it was like a really it was like a break okay. You're doing the right thing. It was kind of like a little omen And then and then I was still trying to be an artist at the time. It didn't just want to be a songwriter. Really wanted to be an artist. But I was doing the solo thing and I did a showcase okay and Benny Brown came to that. He used to own or label and He called me a couple of weeks later and he said Hey. I know this girl She has a hit with Eric. Paisley right now. She's great writer. I WANNA I WANNA see if you'll right with her. He loved my voice. Thought it was started in like my songs at all and I A- sure all right with her and He introduced me to Jennifer Wayne. So you guys get together at this point to like. Yeah well I waited really kind of happened quickly. So I got the tyler for single and then My record delay came. I'm very shortly. After we were offered a record deal. I was still writing. I was writing with Jen at this time. It's happened like within two months of me getting the single. Let let me back up one second because I used to clean houses to my grandmother. Well Yeah and so whenever I always tip the the cleaners east tells good for you. Bob Defect does that affect you. And you're staying in hotels or whenever you're staying places like I always strip the sheets for them. I leave tips whenever never have cash and you have to leave it on the pillow because if you leave it somewhere else sometimes they don't know if you left it for them or someone else's GonNa find what's the worst case scenario. Someone else does find it. If you'd great like somebody you know it's funny. I heard a comedian. Say this one time wherever. I'm not going to give that a homeless person. They're just going to spend it on booze and drugs and he's like that's what I'm going to spend it on at the end of the day. Look at this homeless guy's GonNa spend it on it like. What do you want them to buy a CD rack whereas box? You know. It's funny. God forbid someone else finds it like someone needs it so i. I wonder if that's affected your because I waited tables for a long time into which everybody should have to be a server at some point when I'm president I think you know how a lot of make you serve. I WANNA make everybody be a waiter so they can understand the plight of having to to to deal with people oh the humility that comes with that but it also is such a great a tool for for live and you know I feel like I tip because I wanted to be tipped because actually know what that's like tip someone that gave you bad service. Yeah absolutely I give him even more. Yeah Yeah because well because I was a waiter and there would be times where I suck but it was not my fault and also in the place now where I finally have a good living like. I'm fine and so no reason not to tell. Yeah there's no reason to tip somebody fifty sixty percent because the times that people would come in that. Where am I situation they would tip me? I could make an insurance payment much quicker because of that like it was life altering. Yeah because I was living week to week. Yeah and when someone would come in and give me twenty dollars at the tip it would change the whole week for me so I feel now like I wish that I'm just doing what I wish someone would. I'm no I know bleeding heart. Great Guy I just wish that people had done that for me and some did so now. I'm kind of playing to myself back in time. Tipping me back that I feel that I had I had. Some people really really helped me out. I mean I've had so many people that have helped me And it matters and little things like that like we've been the person paying for your lessons Huge huge Like in two way credits and and the album I really yeah I wouldn't i. I don't think that I would be here without people like that. Does two things one. You've got some lessons but I think the bigger picture was you saw that someone cared enough to actually invest in you. Which makes you want to invest in other people to the same way and so? That's so cool you did that. Yeah Yeah I mean. I didn't really like I always knew that I was like if I get a record deal if I get this stuff like I'm GonNa Credit these people you know there were kind of the only family that we ever had really to. My parents weren't close with their families and they're era the only type of aunt and uncle I knew Huge very very big back. We're GONNA we're we're balancing but we're good for following bouncing to bounce to okay so you injin nerve Jennifer Wayne decide and I've known for Mhm You play tennis with one of my best friend's a friend WHO's a professional tennis player. Okay he was but her last name wasn't Wayne. Yeah and I was like. Hey Dude do you know John Wayne is like your name when she played tennis. Yeah I guess was gone by. Yeah Yeah Yeah and so you guys are writing and you're going to become a duo. Oh No No we were just writing songs And we were riding with another girls another girl you know Caroline Hobby Caroline wrote a Lotta the songs that we have And when we went in and wrote when we went in and played the songs for the label Benny Brown offered us a deal. Deal as as a group right then. I knew he had that Cook in all all along here. I think I'm writing for me. You know and he's like no. I'm going to get this group together. had to happen naturally And I'd never even considered being in a van. I I don't know why I just never crossed my mind. I I I knew right then I was being offered an opportunity like the one And I think too like you. You Act like you're like Bratty Kid. You know you're going to ask for a bike like I wanna I wanNA pink bike going pink bike and then you know God gives you a black bike. It's it's a bike like take the bike. So that's how I looked at it and I was like all right. I'm GonNa do this do this band thing and I had a lot of people like what you know you're going to do this and you're the your that you should. You should just keep doing what you're doing. Just keep on him. I don't think that's the right thing. So we we got offered a record deal as a group with caroline nine and And we got into it down the road and and she was like you know what this is just not really my path. I don't think this is for me. and We it was pretty. It was happened really fast like caroline kind of really knew right away. She's like I'm not I'm not going to be doing this like this is not my path An so Jennifer knew this girl. Hannah Mulholland who was an incredible songwriter. And she brought her into right with us and we asked Hanna Ed to join the group once we had written a few songs. She's incredible sing low harmony. She's great so that's how this band formed that way. So so if you're the HIPPIE. One hippy hippy. One Okay you don't think you'd have to the one. Oh Yeah what would you say That's a good thing. I don't think it's bad. You have abandoned on your arm makes me have a crystal on your neck wolf on your shirt all right fine. You're the Hippie one. What you'll be hipster one? I would say I'm like a little earthy I guess I'm drinking herbs over happy with what is Hannah which what's the has got like this. Like Seventy S. Like what she'd be more hippie than you're he I mean I guess like there's different kinds of hippies coined the kind of do a piece. I ain't GonNa would definitely has some hippie vibes. She's like a Vegan she's she's kind of earthy Touche's from Alabama's it's like. She's like surfer hippie. She's not like very coordinated I don't think she could serve. But yeah it'd be tip. Ichi yes she your earth. All the war seven dwarfs had assist assist your June. She's Beach Hippie June. What is Jin Wayne? John is Mama June. She's like the Mama Han. She worries She is a warrior. She'll text me and be like hey heard heard this is this. It's so sweet. You know she she really is like one of the most empathetic people. I know And she's very sensitive to like energies and feelings and staff staff and She's also very kind of theory. All she's very like light kind of like a little angel. You know when you see her. She's like tall and blonde and like looks like this. It's funny she tells cells tells everyone that she's Peruvian her. Her grandmother's like full blooded Peruvian and Jen looks like a Nordic like she amazon so Yeah I guess that's how I would describe. I think yeah. I think that's accurate. And you gotTA still getting along. Yeah do you have boundaries. Yeah that's because the boundaries are actually really good for relationships more so than a pillar to divide totally. Yeah I mean we do counseling. We have before it would for you. You gotTa love that so important. It's such a gray part of growing totally is to have someone that's GonNa keep talking because I'm such a big time therapy all the time. I do therapy as much as I can Here's the thing you're you're not just a band were married. You know we're legally LIEBAU ND to each other. We share money. We make all of our decisions together. You know we have A. We have employees that racks. Yes you're relationship really can rattle you. There's like little things there's all these personalities were very sensitive people were you know. Emotional and sensitive live and creative and we all have these ideas and we're all very different And we're all very very alike so you know a small decision or a big one can can like Raul you. You have to really really know each other be extremely considerate communicative compromising and you. Don't you're not born with the skills you you know you have to learn them And we treat it like it's a marriage. I know a few other people who are actually in marital counseling and their bandits like four marriage. Yeah I know bands to that go because again if you want to perform at a high level you your mental capacities got to be in that spot and to do that. You got to be unhealthy unhealthy place. Yeah so it's a business decision sending wise. You're making emotional decisions which will wreck your life my my therapist. She lives near here but she does relationships only she does couples. I gone by myself and the first person has ever gone by by themselves and sit in a chair. So it's like me and you if we were together and she's over here but there's no one in that other chair in there but she's never what kind of like an experiment with each other. Do you talk to someone else. You talked to her but you sit. Ah Interesting because that's just her normal room and she doesn't ever do Solos never know she. Just I'm the only guy the only like you're like two people at so much. Maybe that's what it is. I have to pay this. She thought it was interesting to screwed up. People I'll take you. I was like a lot and so she said okay. Let's try in the first couple of weeks I've been with are now for months but the first couple of weeks that I went in we were like. Let's see if we both want to do that. I'm just such a big believer and I need someone from from from outside. That doesn't have an investment in my personal life. God to lead me places. I don't need to tell me I don't need you to take me there all the time time just sometimes re point me a direction. Let's see where I go. I am sure that you get this. All the time like people are. Have you read this book or you're reading this book. But but there's this book and it's called the laws of human nature by Robert Greene. It's incredible it like talks about your emotional self and how people are not in touch with that thing. This is what my therapist is teaching me. you make emotional decisions when you think you're being rational It's so crazy. People are very complicated. I think the first mistake that you can make with someone is thinking that they're not complicated And especially yourself like when you're like oh I'm kind of like a simple guy. I've only got you know these certain things in particular about these things but not this. It's like you're so wrong people just don't even know theirselves so Therapy has helped me a lot in that way to like. Get to know my emotional off because you in this job were emotionally stimulated and triggered occurred all the time and then you're set with like this big decision to make that involves a lot of people and if you're not careful you'll just really really slipping. Maybe you will. I know I have but it's a it's something we have to be on our toes about because people are all around you and your. There's no one way to do this. And so you just have to really be in touch with yourself and think mine just hasn't challenging negative thoughts. I leave going I need something. I can comeback when I needed like an execution point everytime Li like would like. Give me something to work on. I left yesterday well just chug. Because my question was and she was like. Oh no one's ever asked me that I was like hey. Can you grow out of trauma like can you. Let's say someone having me at twelve. It was pretty awful for. I'm thirty nine like I should be able to shake that by now. And she's like you know it's not that you grow out of it so the answer is no but you can have so much positive things kind of outweigh. We sort of think differently about it because so much good has happened. Where if you have trauma that happens to you and it's a big part it's a major part of your life and your decisions? It is seventy parked sitting here thinking process it. That's a that's a where that's happening to the trauma still there. But you're starting to see. Oh great things can happen to. What does that mean that when you start to see other things that are good you may be start to understand that thing that gave you trauma a bit which is super powerful right? Yes you know and even when you see things we were talking yesterday not to therapy on it. Who cares but it was I she's a like a love Donny. Love doctor she's a doctor. Dr No undergone back. That's what she works like like. That's her thing relationships right and she's like you know here's why you're not good at relationships you've never seen a successful one lake. I never knew my dad. My Dad left when I was you know five or six years old mom remarried and divorced. A mom died my grandmother and grandfather when she was forty six. She Yes she died from drugs. Alcohol older ish but she was always an addict so I never knew or not being an addict siblings. I have a sister and then like like a half brother Dad. I don't know Arkansas family. Where they're kind of all over in different ways have like an eighth cousin don't try may I Sister wives somewhere. It's a whole thing and uncle daddy all of that and but it was you. I've never seen a really successful relationship. So that's why they seem so foreign to me because Mike I Watch these shows and I'm like that's not true so that you just haven't seen one right like getting in a lot of my friends also been like this isn't working so they've all moved in with me me at some point and so that's that was the big the big thing yesterday and does not change your your outlook on marriage. No but it makes kind of why you're seeing someone is to like Yahoo. How perspective perspective vulnerability when you're a survivalist? Your whole life. You've only built walls around you so long that you still live with those walls even though you don't need them anymore so a a lot of that too. Yeah but it's it's GonNa be the band that's so excited. Oh my gosh I mean I. It's I know a lot of bands that do this. This isn't like something out of nowhere We've we were advised that early on to do it. And it's like it's even with you know if you're getting married. It's like premarital counseling like. Let's make this bridge strong before there's breaking it you know that's kind of it's not. It's not because something happened or like something. Well you know we should all be. We should all be as prepared as we can be And we care about it we care about this and we care about each other enough to have the tools to not do damage while we're trying to build this thing And then I see a therapist on my down which I love it. It really really helps me stay grounded and you know we're in a little business here. It's a very very strange strange. And different every day and Guy Or girl you're there. Yeah mine's a once a woman to do you ever do a why was raised by women. Mom Grandma's adopted the mother for a while. So I only feel comfortable with older women telling me what to do. That's kind of move Do you ever do where they just sitting the required at you and you know because that's a technique right and I also do it in this but so since I talk to people and get things out of them with that technique where she does it to me. She'll just sit there your silence. I know what you're doing just sitting here. I'll wait around wall staring game. Is that people love to talk about themselves. So it's like not if you just sit there and listen like they'll tell you we'll tell you all kinds of stuff is her out she'll look at me and I know the technique it's not therapy. Is it also starting to win win over. Yeah I'm trying to here let me roll. There's some quick quick answers here. Do Wear Gopro and you downhill bike. I have before I just bought one and I haven't used it yet in. I will see your instagram stories on that bike. And I'm like are you out of your mind but that's the thing were you write down what I love it I love. Have you ever done anything like that. Do you bike or anything dude. What you're super athletic? But that doesn't mean I would've done this to go. I you should go and that's your things on me. If I come on I feel so alive like do they have bunny slopes if you take me to do a bunny slope nope sorry. Just gotTa get on the bike and go to hero at like if you see a huge jump. Just don't do it but Yeah it's been really really fun. I I've been to whistler in Canada and Aspen Jackson Hole. There's a little bike park around here but like you know what I would due to the learner bike park and then we played. It puts you on a bike by little hills. Goals met your style vintage stores or just really cool new stuff that looks old. What's what's what are we have Yeah I use a mix of everything like I. I just Kinda like I just wear what I what I like. How about your instagram post? You take a lot of the picture over and over again to find one or you just like boom there it is the one. What do you mean like shower any pictured on you know do you do you like take one hundred and I'll pick one? Okay yeah all right this earth your how do you not really you are right now. How much do you filter? No the Real Mrs. If you answer the question real not in how you actually okay with how do you feel about instagram. Removing the likes I love it. I think it's so smart. I think that When I first started instagram it was all about the photos Which I love that? That's kind of why I don't have a facebook page and Haven't been on facebook in years but we're friends on facebook and I just sent you money last week. How do you spend money on on facebook you? I thought you needed. Please send me some money on me so I saw your. I'm an influence or now. Apparently right let me influence you okay. I'm already influence. I'M GONNA I'm gonNA drink jam or whatever you have over in this jar. Nourishing herbal infusions so nearest jurist. I love the gone. I think that it's like this there. There have been extensive. Studies shown that is harmful to us. I think that it's going to be like like social media will be like our parents was smoking when they used to smoke in the car with the kids like no one really knew the damage that was doing until like we known like Oh my God was gnarly that they would ask us smoking or non like in a restaurant you know. I think. That's what our kids are going to say about social media thing about sugar that's saying Oh man what a gnarly thing that's going to be twenty five years we're going to go. What are we doing? Yeah that's it. Ah Listen let me say this you should. I'm big fan runaway June. Six Big Fan of you. You're a great singer. Everyone should check blue roses in this thing last forever. You probably have four records out. People be listening to this five six years at checkout blue roses the record Allah we. We were rich. Hey play some of that Fast as you cover because this one this last night I love my yoga and when I heard this I was like oh boy. It's so it's real good good good good. I know you had a long night last night. We've done in our state. We hit one hour here. Some of this is usable. It all goes up immediately this. That's all usable snow editing editing. No filter no filters so follow Naomi at Naomi Underscore Cook on instagram. That's right right you know. Somebody had Naomi with underscore. who had that is that somebody? Why why would you get done for the nobody wants an underscore like if you just? I couldn't believe it. Who runs the runaway? June page. We do you nearly. It's a mess dude guy slide into your personal. DMZ All the time randomly. I actually don't check my DM's anymore it just would bum me out just bumped. It was big time bomb out because well I've never I've never done any dating apps ever like and so it kind of started dating APP like I was just being hit by like all all kinds of people made me kind of feel like well. There's nothing natural left and I was like I felt like I was being ordered a pizza. Like Nah I just I just stopped. Don't don't hate technology. I don't I don't hate it. There's been some good things that have happened but I really don't check my like I'll I'll talk to my fans hands in the comments section one hundred percent you come on and something. I'll talk to you there but get out of my. DM's every picture. And I never get a mess ups via I should come you. Don't call them on it comment on everything and I always. I always acknowledged you there. Where if you comment on something do y.? Yeah I never go back and look what what. What does this conversation? Why would I like your comment? If you're not gonna go back and comment on somebody's GonNa go back and see they've acknowledged you're coming you get a little. You get alert. Don't you write alert followers. I don't know mile. They're Europe product of the product. I don't all right here. We have so twelve runaway June checkout blue roses. Thank you for coming by. Oh my God thanks for having me. It's so fun how. How did it feel rolling Solo? Doing interview felt pretty pretty cool with you. Felt Good I. I don't know I can't say for other ones though. Yeah well I'll say just wrap never do another solo whenever and also let me say hi to Hannah and Jen love them and I know they're not here but they WANNA commend individually to because can trash talk each other. Okay we've put out all the trash talking hearing this. We cut out all the trash. Talk Therapy there's no trash nice talking outside. Yeah thank you. Thanks Bobby. Where can you pick up both ice cream? 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"Payoff Caroline Hobby of get real podcast I want to talk to you about what southern living magazine has up their sleeve in the south. Talking about food is personal. It's a way of sharing a part of your history. Your family, your culture in yourself on the biscuits jam podcasts, southern, living editor and chief sit evans talk celebrity musicians like. Little big town's Kimberly flatman. Brett eldredge Martina McBride in Gladys Knight to hear stories of how they grew up and how they've been shaped by southern culture. Listen to biscuits and jam on Apple. PODCASTS IHEART wherever you find your favorite podcasts. Hey, it's caroline hobby. I spy something fun. Old Navy's face facemask for the family. These triple air washable, one hundred percent cotton math are definitely something to smile about. You know smiling with your. Your eyes. They're designed according to the CDC's recommendation for non-medical Face Ness, they come in handy multi packs, and they're available in sizes for kids antidotes, because you should cover your face, and not your personality, they come in a whole bunch of prints, patterns, and colors, five packs, twelve, fifty and ten packs, or just twenty five bucks at your local old navy or old navy dot com, the old navy dot com for details. She. Just said. Noah. Founded. Okay so this. I'm doing. Answering your questions about me I've gotten so many raw talking to me saying you need to tell your story. You didn't answer questions. You introduce yourself. So. Let me introduce myself. My name is Caroline Hobby. In thirty six years old I am from Texas I grew up. Great Family My Dad's a dentist. My Mom taught philosophy at Baylor University of an older sister named Kathryn, and she is married to an amazing guy named Willie they have a little girl named genevieve. His nine interviewed Willie Catherine engine. Vive. All My podcasts, so go check out the powers. They Adam Powers Willie bowers and Jimmy thouars. And I grew up in a really great family. My family taught me great morals and commitment and love each other support each other. And it was great Then moved to Nashville am not say I didn't have my own personal struggles, or whatever along the way, but as far as having a loving family I was very blessed. Then? I went to Belmont University in Nashville move to national. Be a country music singer. And I ended up forming a trio with Jennifer. Wayne and Taylor Lynn Jennifer Wayne is now in runway June and they're kicking butt. Doing so great in Tayla, is she? Her Grandmother's? Loretta Lynn Jen's grandfathers. John, Wayne. Taylor now is in a duo with conway, twitty's son and She and Conway twitty son. Do do it and they travel all over the country pre, covid. Covering Loretta and Twitty Conway Twitty, which is amazing, so we ran this band stealing angels for about seven years. All over the country open for everybody. did a USO tour went to Iraq. It was amazing. It was such an amazing experience and I. Feel like that is really. What honed my skills. I guess to say of interviewing because in that trio interview interview after interview after interview, and you're entertaining. People and I just started to realize good questions. What was engaging what I wanted to know when I felt like I was as good bad questions, and like I just started to realize. The Art of interviewing and getting stories out, and I really loved having telling Stories Aston. Getting. Interesting things out of people and I learned that from being in a band. Also after my band, stealing angels fell apart, Jan and I went on the amazing race, and that's on CBS, and it's a race around the world. Obviously, that's not happening now with COVID, but Jan and I did it two times. We did season twenty two, so watch it. We're the country singers. We're both single and freaking boy crazy. Kosh on my God. So we did amazing race season twenty two, and we got fourth place, which was really awesome, so made in the season finale, and then we got ask back to do all stars, and we got second place. We almost won the whole thing on our all-stars season twenty four, and all is like where they ask like the favorite teams to comeback all compete on one season, so it was so much fun. Seeing the world open my eyes so much. It made me realize that we are also similar, and people have so much of the same desires which I feel like is just. To provide for their families to have a happy life to live in community into love and be loved, and I got just got to see so many different cultures living beautiful lies in seeing how everyone lives so differently, but yet we are are so much the same. So, it was just an incredible opportunity to travel the world and do Jin. We had so much fun. We were so supportive of each other, whenever towards other down a lot of teams on the amazing race will self destruct, because it's so stressful like you're doing the most stressful things like one time Jin. had a jump into a muddy river and swam laps to grab a clue and in a wet suit and the freezing cold. It's just crazy. You're driving all over countries that you can't speak the language or on the opposite side of the road driving stickshift barely drive a stick shift at one time. I forgot turn of the parking brake noodle, the highway and like a car started. I was like Oh my gosh. I'M GONNA blow up on accident. And it's just high pressure because. Everytime on airplane like as soon as it lands. You have to have your back. BE READY TO DART out because you've got the first cab and try to get to the next place. I to beat on the other teams. Because every second counts, so mean is adrenaline adrenaline adrenaline, and it is so easy to self destruct, but Jan and I stayed so positive and we. We just decided to assume the best in each other and to work as a team always into know that we are always trying our best. Don't tear each other apart and we did we did that. We did that the whole time and I have to say that's probably one of my greatest accomplishment is how great Jinnai worked as a team and loved each other and. Had Fun and didn't yell and scream and tear each other down, so that was amazing. And then after amazing race. I came back to Nashville. Had moved to Texas for a brief stint, because I met my husband, and between all this like before amazing race I had started dating Michael Hobby. He's in the Banda. Thousand Horses. We did for four years and then we broke up. The caller halftime show. And I moved to Texas to be with my family and that's what amazing race happened. And then after I finished doing the maze and move back to Nashville to work at a record label. I was a record I went from singing to the amazing race in in Austin is teaching music to kids in the little school called music together so sweet just trying to figure out my life lost. I've had many seasons of feeling super loss so. For All of you guys who you have gone through phases, or you're feeling loss. Know that I'm right there with you. My life has been waves. It's been highs and lows and. Feeling totally lost in between, but looking back now all the seasons are so important and I'm hopeful all of them so after amazing race a move back that to Nashville and I started working a record label I started. Doing promotion which is were you promote an artist to radio? You take artists around, and they have a single pushing radio. You take all the radio stations in Gen and I did that together promoting Natalie sobol to radio. She was artist which is so amazing, because now Natalie is in Jin's band runway. June, it's just crazy. How full circle everything is like? You have no idea how everything's working together when it's happening, and then you look back years later and like Dang. That's nuts that those relationships. Form so early on in such different roles, and then like it can circle back around to see Natalie now join runaway June. Has Been so cool because she's so talented. Genzer talented Naomi talented, and they're all such great talented singer Seagal. Make sure to check out in June. They have a new song out there we are. We were rich and it's amazing. They're so talented. Surgeon workings promotion was US nothing. Jin Wasn't an unmanned either that time. She was doing promotion with me and we were promoting Nellie sobol. The now John Frat Flash Board Jin is now on a band, so it's like you never know when you're gonNA end up a successful You never know what's GonNa lead to what? So when I was doing promotion, I and I was awesome. Song Plugger, which is pitching songs had writers that works for the company I worked for, and they would turn in songs to me and I would listen, and I would decide who I thought. She reported that song at which country artists and then I would either pitch it to their manager to the artists themselves today and our person, which is the person who listens for Music Barness anyway I could get that song to the artist's to try to get that recorded on that artist's album that I thought it would be fit for so. Did that. In between doing stealing angels than I worked at their Record Label Promotion Company and I was a song plugger. An I started doing hosting jobs. Jen and I are like the dynamic duo. Hosting drops together. We did this show called sweet tea. That never aired, but it was so fun It's of like highlighting South and then we would do. We did like live hosting for the riverfront stage down in Nashville for artists that were playing in summertime. and I realized I loved hosting. And, love hosting I had learned how to interview people and be interviewed and get engaging content now from the amazing race like I learned at what. They're looking for for those short little clips on TV like what makes an engaging quick interview. I just learned so much from doing that on the amazing race, and I was like I love hosting and I I didn't even know that was a job. That's how like following your. Heart does lead you to your next step. Because when I moved to national is nineteen years old to be a country singer I had no idea as an end up being hosted a podcast hosts like named those things existed, but because I followed my intuition and what was driving. Driving me, and what was it what was making me feel curious? I ended up just following path and so then. I was like you know what I love hosting and I I. Just heard about podcasts. My friend winter a bit who have also interviewed on. Get Real, so go check her out. Her name's win elder now. Was Like Carolina. podcast you know all these interesting amazing people and podcast about to be the biggest thing to hit the world, so you need to go ahead and get in early and started podcast and I was like what the heck is a podcast i. have no idea what a podcast is, but okay. Let me figure it out and I'm going to start one so I. Did my first interview was Darius Rucker and it was amazing and. Started rolling from there and then flash forward few years I have been hosting for a TV show called net called national insider, and they highlight all local country music news. It's been such a blessing in so much fun interviewed incredible people on that show. and. I recently last year partnered with bobby bones in his podcast network. National POD casts network called, and it's been awesome to be in IHEART. Bobby bones family, and so that's really my story of had gotten to here in the meantime, I had sunny Last year last year in September and for you guys who fall my story Michael on I struggled with. infertility I out of its infertility, but we Could get pregnant, but couldn't hold the baby. I had a miscarriage and chemical pregnancy and we tried for. A year to get pregnant and I was really depressed than in a dark place and I thought all hope was lost, and we'd just miscarried, and then right after that we got pregnant with Sonny and. Sonny has been light of our lives. She is a true joy, and I have loved being her mother more than anything I post all the time about being your mom and motherhood and things I'm going through and tips I've learned and things that are helpful to me and so that's a lot of my content these days because that's pretty much my life. I don't know if I finish the stories after Michael and I broke up. We ended up when I moved back to Nashville. We ended up. Reconnecting and we realized that we were each other's true love, and we eloped four months after we got back, I got back to national. We got back together. We eloped, and in the Bahamas got married. And now we've been married almost seven years six Omar Nathan. Place where I can't remember how long we've been married. We've been married forever. And it's been great, and he's in a band called horses. A on new song called a song to remember. Check it out everywhere on Itim spotify wherever you listen to music, a thousand horses song remember it's so so good I mean it is such a great song. Thousand horses toward that ruined from Jason Aldean's Kid rock to Darius Rucker to Frankie Ballard to. Bosh everyone. They were supposed to go on tour of the black. Crowes a few times this year before covid hit. And fell apart which rose cool cool story are Michael's cousins. They are his second cousins, and so he's grown up loving an idolizing them forever so now they're all in music and they're going to get the tour together. Oh special, but. Anyway, so that is a brief brief brief summary of who I am, and now I'm going to answer these questions that you asked. Okay, and then just sum it up to like that all sounds like bullet points and everything's Been Peachy, keen, happy go lucky I am a super emotional person I. Am a four on the program which is individualists, and so I oftentimes get lost in my feelings and I'm super. emotional I. Swing from High Salo's all the times I feel everything. I'm super, super empathetic. Sometimes I feel so much. It's overwhelming. And I So I've had a lot of crude dips like I have had super highs to sucralose, and before I realized that life was a pendulum and that you're just constantly swinging. I would really lose myself in those lows like when things fall apart of when my bands would fall apart when? When amazing race ended or Mike when Nebraska or when I I just feel so lost it really take me down. The older I've gotten the more of lived through those highs and lows. I realized that that's part of why in the doesn't freak me out as much as it did before like. It still sucks when you're going through the low swings. But I also know that it will swing up the other way like nothing lasts forever, and so I learned that especially being in a creative lifestyle. Your wife is not really consistent, and so I've learned to just go with the flow. That's action at my tattoo means I have these three birds on a wire and one is sitting on the wire, and that's the season of waiting when you don't know what in the hell is happening with your life that you're waiting. And then the next the birds flying because like the waiting prepares you to fly, and so sometimes you wait sometimes you're flying soaring sometimes you're coming down and it's just a cycle that continues, so don't ever get hung up on one of the phases, and not just a constant reminder to me to. Realize that. Life has so don't when you're in the high moment. Enjoy it, but don't don't freak. Don't hang on so tight, but you can't live when it isn't a high beaumont anymore because it's going crash eventually, that's part of the process. So. Near questions. watching her episodes of amazing race, you should go into details of that, so it is so funny that my sister and my niece Catherine Genovese just started watching all my seasons, amazing race, and so gin and I have been talking on the phone I was like I'm. GonNa start watching the amazing race again. I haven't seen it like five years, so I started watching the all-star. My Gosh Jin on episode to Gin and our about to get out because I had a symbol this very intense remote control car that kids Rydin. In China and I cannot assemble, and so I got assigned task. I was full blown melting down, and there's this thing called the express pass that if you get it, you get to use the past and skip the challenge. In one of the team's, the cowboys had one. And Express pros for themselves, and they had one express passed to give another team so as a very strategic thing who the cows we're going to give this express passed to. They needed to get rid of it because they don't want they didn't want to. It's an advantage for another team. It's a disadvantage for the cowboys to have that. They WANNA. Get rid of it, but they need to get rid of it in a way. That doesn't put them endanger. Jin worked so hard and got the express pass and I got to leave the challenge. Otherwise we might have gotten out and I was like. It's so fun washing back to see how all these pieces fall into place. Because you have no idea what's going to happen. It's all these people navigating these intense challenges of finding locations working together in foreign countries and. I just another one that we did. We're on a raft to build a raft in Whitewater. Raft at a river, and then shoot this blow gun into the forest and knock down these fake birds and I just It's been such a blast. Relive it because it's such a moment of time in a moment in our Life Bay, the dog barking in sunny sleeping and I'm like dogs eating all. Wake up that baby. Message a moment of time that I was never get back I'll never. I'll never do that again and we in these moments. You think they're gonNa last forever, but then they don't. So it's been so fun to watch it back. Just intensity in Renton, and how on you have to be all the time? Okay, someone says polly pick says I love your show. What is your? What is your faith in? What would you have called sunny if she were a boy? Thank you for listening to the show I really just want to highlight. Honest women in how honest talk says what the catch is? The catch line is because I know I. Am always looking for real talk, and because I'm such emotional person I can swing in emotional, low and I want to know that I'm not alone and I feel like everybody wants to know that and so interviewing women in particular who? Who seemed so successful and they are. But to and so happy and so blessed, but to really dive into their store and realize it hasn't been perfect for anybody. Even the people that we put on a pedestal like they have had moments of complete Deer and being lost in doubting themselves and heartbreak, tragedy and terrible things like everyone has to go through their journey, so God has been the point of this podcast really is just to heal myself to know that all these women. I look up to also go through. Struggle to but I think that's in the blessing for everyone Israelis. We're all in this and no one has. No one has a flawless ride. Everyone has to deal with their own stuff. And let's talk about and be honest, so then we all can like. Be empowered and. Support each other in realize like nobody's better than anybody. We're all in this together, and that's been such a blessing to do this podcast. what is my faith? That's a really good question. I believe in God one hundred percent. I have a super active relationship with him. or the higher being whatever uniform. I believe that God is an every single thing in this life I think that everything does happen for a reason, even the terrible things right now in the world I have no idea what's happening in his overwhelming to me all the pain and suffering and All of the tragedy in all the kids that are hurt abandoned abused lost all that like kills me and I cannot come up with a reason for it, but. I have to believe that God has some bigger plan and purpose for every. Part of this existence in life like an like with Covid, and with the fires in Australia with. Animals and children and families that starve and don't have access to clean water and. Men The list goes on and on and the pollution, and there's so many things overwhelm me, and it's all so big, and I don't know how and like the tornado that hit Nashville in the families that were displaced that all like really rocks me to my core and I don't know how to deal with it and homelessness and. Addiction and. Oh. It's just heavy I don't know how to handle it. so my faith is. I have to believe that God has his hand in everything in the there is a purpose for everything. And God. I listened to the nudges that I have in my heart. I know when I feel pulled towards something and I felt called towards something and. When I! Feel Path clearing for me to make a difference in in my life. I follow that path because there's too much in the world. That is heartbreaking and not one person can. Fix everything. This is a huge world. We live in a lot of stuff going on. So. I the way I can stay centered stay faithful stay connected without feeling so overwhelmed and depressed about up sadness. World is no. I listen to my heart where the road clears for me to make a difference. That's how I make a difference and I just keep following up and everything I do in my career choices in my guest feature in the way I contribute and give back to my community. I just follow. The road that opens up for me and I feel like I can impact, and I think everybody did that. We can make collected huge difference. It's a great time to get a great deal on a new car. When you get approved for an loan from Penn Fed their powered by truecar rates are as low as one point three nine percent. APR New Vehicles Finance for longer term to lower your monthly bill plus take sixty days schedule. 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What inspired them and how they've been shaped by the southern Culture John, said and his all star guests including Jayco and Willie Nelson. Nelson Kimberly shot in Martina, McBride Gladys Knight Brett, eldredge, and more as they talk about cherished memories and traditions, the family mills they still think about and their favorite places to eat on the road to episode one talks to country musician Jaco on about knocker, Caroni croquettes growing up in Florida and the story behind his hit song homemade. Listen to biscuits. Jam on Iheart Apple podcasts or wherever you find your favorite podcast. Fertility journey well when we were trying for a baby, originally I got I was thirty four, and I got pregnant like three most of the time. And I. It was chemical pregnancy, which means like you get pregnant. In you're pregnant right one week, but the embryo doesn't stick inside of you. And so it's chemical pregnancies early miscarriage. So that was sad. It was hard, but it was also okay. can get pregnant and. Tried and tried again. Six seven more months nothing. And I started getting super depressed because. All I wanNA baby and I was like this is not gonNa having for me, and now I'm like thirty five. If I never can have a baby. And we got pregnant again. Seven months after trying and then. A couple months into it. I lost the baby and. Man It was so devastating. And the crazy thing was. Like. When we're going through Michael we read a big award. Show party dressed up. and. I was miscarrying at this award show like I didn't know it was happening. And then alternates are miscarrying. Taivon. And like. It's just like. Is Not reality. If you see a picture in our own, seem so happy and everything's so great. And you never know what's going on behind the scenes so. Miscarried and it was devastating. I was. Deep, deep deep. Deeply. Depressed I guess I mean not like clinically depressed, but I was in deep season of depression. And my guy cautious was like. We need to give your body a break. You're probably going to have to help to get pregnant. You probably going to need to get. Have to get into idea and all that stuff. And so I just kind of gave up on. It was like. A worn out and exhausted. This is so hard and to like. Lose a baby in like dining, not not like I. Don't know if I really excited if I did get pregnant, because now have this fear that I just GonNa miscarry. and. So I just gave up on it and. then. I got pregnant. Quickly after nine, just thought, there's no way. But kept saying pregnant and I made it to like the first trimester online like I've made it through the scary part the scariest part as we miss the most. And I just had so much fear and anxiety the entire privacy I stopped completely. Start working out like I. Did Not do anything that was like involved. Heavy movements like I was so afraid like one time dog jumped on me and I had full blown panic attack that. She had like kill the baby and I mean I had so much anxiety. I loved being pregnant because of such a blessing and a gift like the fear I had of losing. Sunny was overwhelming so. When she came into this world, it was just. My. Man. It was the greatest day of my whole life and. She has been the biggest blessing. And so I. Don't know every journey that women go through with struggling to get pregnant, but I definitely had my own journey. That was really hard so I relate, and I am always in your corner. I believe that every woman who has a desire to become mother will be mother in one way or another whether that Sir doctor whether that's through fostering whether that's through. I the F. whether that's through just being an amazing aunt or fostering lots of dogs or whatever it is I. believe every woman who has the mother instinct will become in some way. But I know how devastating that journey can be and how blessed blessed. It can be, but I definitely know the devastation. I'm always feeling for you. Guys in in your corner because I. Walk that Walk To. Do I have a nanny I do not have an anti I actually have no help at all or no babysitters, really ever, so I'm a full time. Mom and I am completely. Hundred percent hands on Sunny I. Really Record my podcast I record them during her naps or like at eight o'clock at night. And eventually covert ever opens up I would like to get a little help, because it is very hard to wing wing it on win. I can report our podcast. because. It's a guessing game. She doesn't have like set nap times, and she doesn't have the same amount of time. Every time I have to schedule these appointments. These interviews of people so. It's very tricky. but I love being a fulltime on. I am so ocd and obsessed with her. That like I feel nervous if anyone's watching her, but me and I wanna be there all the time, and that's just my personality. so I don't have a nanny. Or help. What is my biggest regret? The question. Biggest regret. I was so insecure in my twenties. That I misinterpreted a lot of things. I didn't think I was worthy at anything else worth it. Just for my own reasons. I wish I would've had a little more confidence in my twenties, and not have been so insecure and I have really seen the blessings. I was living at those times instead of seeing a dislike mind securities, but I think that's part of growing up. and. I learned a lot from it so I don't regret it, but. I wish I would have been so hard on myself and so. I don't know thoughts on worthy for so long, but I think it maybe I. Am and. So I don't regret it at all, but I just wish that I could have seen the truth of who I was at that time. Billy I don't know. I don't really have any regrets which I'm grateful for. That like I've lived learned and. A Roth all. Pretty grateful for my life. I mean I feel very grateful for my wife. All of your favorite products. Baby registered that you couldn't live without. Pack and play sunny is sleeping in her back and play right now. Because she. We've met traveling so much didn't sleep in her crib. So pack and play Let's see what else I- outlet the Outlet Foot Monitor. It's kind of Pricey I, but I'm so CD about her breathing. She is ten months old and I still put it on her foot every single night that she goes to sleep and monitors her breathing and her heart rate, and it gives me peace of mind. Some moms don't need it for me. It is the only way I can go to sleep at night because I know that that'll arm will go off of her breathing dip slow, certain point and I can. Rest That that that has been my number one. And then what else my pump pump forever, so I had to spectra pump. which is great on break bottles? Yeah I mean. Pretty much everything else, Kinda. You know roll with it. Oh a carrier lily carrier that I wear her on that we love. That's amazing. How did you Michael Me? You met at a bar. It was very very romantic and classy drinking at a Bar I was twenty four. He was actually I met him in a studio. He was recording music with a producer that I was and he and his band. We're like all eighteen nineteen years old and I was like twenty two, and they were sliding up and down the studio halls tube socks I remember thinking. These guys are fun and wild, and they were so funny in great and talented so I, was kind of knew him not well. And then we ended up working the same producer. Get in that that was working produced. That's how I knew each other, and then later on a few years. Later I was at this bar because I was gonna all the time you know, get my flirt on. Get my drink on trying to. Mix and mingle. And I saw him at the Bar, Do you? What are you doing in? This weird guy was trying to flirt with me a chocolate being. It sounds like you talk to me like. Distract this guy away from me, so we ended up talking about I thought he was so young because he was like three and a half years younger than me. I was like I. Mean When you're twenty four and twenty when he's twenty one like the big difference. But I was like Dang. This guy's funny. He makes me feel the way I wanNA feel I. Love Talking to him. He's so charming and talented, and we ended up making out that night and dating for four years, and so that's how we met, and then we broke up married opposite. Do! You want markets, you know. I think we'd love to have another kid but I don't have any on. I don't have any pressure on it. We'll probably just open. It up to see if anything happens here in the next little bit. But, if we aren't listening child, I am so happy with just one an I do not want to put pressure or have anxiety or stress out about having to so like we just happened to be blessed one. That's great and if not. We are so thankful and happy for sunny and that she's on out. We have that is. Perfect so really. In a hand this next child over God and I don't want to have the same. Anxious walk that I had. To get to Sonny, it would be to if we're buses vaguely over to I. Just want it to be whatever will be will be and. we would be thankful if we're busting another child and if we aren't, we are so thankful to have one, so that's how we are kind of moving into baby number two. wanted to start getting sunny finger foods. And what does she eat I started giving anything or Beta? Six months I was scared to death to feed her real food because I was freaked out about choking I just like like surprising are catching a theme here. I've been scared of this. Her dying hurting yourself. All the things like every new thing has been very scary for me, so moving into foods is very scary for me, We ended up in South Carolina may stay there for a while and I stayed with my sister in law and brother-in-law with Mike all night. It is any hit, Nath, five kids, and so I really that was a blessing for me because she helped me feed sunny because they have a daughter who's a little bit older than sending and so like she would help me like break it into little bites and show me how to feed her, and what to beater, and I'm just having. The support was really great. That's my women. We all need each other to support each other because. I know for me. I can't sometimes I just had to be full blown supported by women to move into the next day with phase sunny because it's just so overwhelming. I started around six months and I the main things I've eater now like Avocado Veggie Burgers Greek yogurt mix it with like peanut, butter or CSU. She doesn't have a peanut allergy. Peanut, butter, or like parade vegetables pureed vegetables. I feed her watermelon, macaroni and cheese peas carrots that are steamed. Stuff like that. Let's see. Newmont her. Did you struggle with postpartum depression really hurting over here? I. Don't know if I had postpartum depression, but I was an emotional mess I was emotional mess of the weepy mess. Everything I cried all the time could not get a hold of my feelings. I was probably lower radic with my feelings or my goal. I could probably. A probably wasn't totally saying in the head with him, but he he's known me for so long. He's been so gentle with me. I definitely had so many feelings and I think he's GonNa. Give yourself grace. It took me. Probably about six months to really get the hang of this and Roy good. I kind kinda like myself again and to be like I knew what I was doing. Sunny and such as a new mom. Everything's new on your fully responsible for this baby. Hormones are all over the place, and you're doing so much, and sometimes you're dislike. You wanted to scream at your husband. Even though he's trying to bessie cannons like you just got to give yourself a little bit of grace in that time, because it is just like your world's have been turned upside down so. Don't worry if you're in the middle of it is very normal. just try to make sure that you feel your feelings and give Yourself Grace Boreham cry- crying. Help me a lot and then lean on your girlfriend's like. Lean on another mama friend because you need to have money talk to. Someone, who can encourage you? How did you get back to normal activities in life after having a baby, I don't think life is ever normal again after having baby a new normal. It took me like I said like six months to do anything. We started traveling when she was three months, and like sent me into it frequent tailspin, but now she's ten months, and like we got a rhythm and routine, and she's like a little human and. Strong and capable, and yes, she still needs fulltime mommy and daddy watching all the time, but she is strong, and can communicate her feelings, no with her, crying in her laughing and her little chirping and all that. So, as like now it just got into rhythm but I think I think it just takes time and I think you've just got to figure out. I didn't put pressure on myself. Like I didn't leave the house for the first three months, and then I slowly started adding things back to my plate that I could handle little by little by little bite. Bite at not dive back into my full wife right away been a very slow, slow slow creep back into life, and it's still not realized than than Kobe hit. Of course our all living lives that we haven't lived before. So I just gave yourself grace and add things back to your plate. As you feel that you can manage them, do not rush. Would you like to sing professionally again? You have a beautiful voice. You're so nice. That me I don't know I don't sing professionally again, but I am open to singing again in some way if it came across my path like. Ended up, doing a show or something and. They needed me to sing. Like are totally thing you know down the road. do like Broadway stint when I'm in my sixties, something fun. I mean open to it, but I'm not no desire to do it. How did you come up with Sonny's name? Michael came up with it one day. He was just saying. We're talking about names. Sunny it's like Oh. Love Sonny Sonny is such a great name because I truly believe that your name sets the tone for your life, and why not? Have a name. Sonny Kazeem each set the tone for bright warm life and I was like Oh love it. Son and Grayson is named Sonny Grayson is her name racists. Michael's brother who passed away when his fifteen of a brain of brain cancer and Grayson was just one of the greatest guys Michael Said and one of Michael's. best friends, and he had the great spirit, and so we just wanted to honor Michael's brother. Associate Grayson that's her little sweet name, and she is so sunny and so happy. I'm going to get through. Some of these have been talking about for a minute. Thank you? Pay So y'all said what inspired you to start a podcast like? I said I just really wanted to get into hosting in I. Loved interviewing hearing stories and I just thought you know what my friend win told me about. Just went all in and I didn't know what I was doing, and it's been awesome. How do you approach asking guests to speak on your podcast? For me I'm such an incredible community of people amazing people in Nashville. So many great friends that my road Sorta just leads me to people so I just where I in my life when I run across people that I find fascinating and ask them on behalf love to have us ago. PODCASTS or you cool in a saga. Equals coming on. Any advice to newbies, who just started park castle. Actually share what I just saw bobby bones put about this and he's like you need to have your niche like you need to know your niche and your line like mine is honest. Women honest talk. That is the focus of my party, so he was saying you can't just interview. Country Stars like you need to know. What is the point of your interviews? Be Specific, so be specific about your focus and I. think that's Great Advice. I mean I took it. favorite album thousand horses. The ban play on. It's coming out soon, but for right now. Check out a song member anywhere you can, and it's the best. What helps your anxiety during pregnancy after experiencing a loss. I mean I. I would love to give you a great answer but nothing. I, until I got pregnant with sunny, I had so much anxiety and so much. Makes me cry like the brings up feelings nothing. I mean Diddley. Not God and I knew got reason. But it was devastating heartbreaking and I can't say. I handled it perfectly because I was lost in my feeling so. I duNNo. I journaled a lot. I wrote a lot. A Lot I did yoga. And I tried to just know that God had a plan, but I definitely. I definitely struggled with it hardcore. Struggle, not living in Texas near family. Yes, I do I love Nashville so much, but I really wish I could hop in the car and drive a few hours and be with my family on a regular basis. It in is fine when pre Kogo because we could hop on the plane and do that five Texas all the time, but now that we can't fly. isn't really hard because I love my family so much and I want to spend time with them. And so the fact that So hard to get places right now. That's definitely a struggle. But. I love national so much that. You know it's worth it even though I wish I, wish we closer. wrap up while I enter these to question. Best advice to get two girls in their thirties and still single I think. Do not just get married because you want to get married. You have. Stayed single for a reason because you haven't met someone. WHO. Is A match. Makes you feel like a like? Wants us to the rest of your life with and like being married is amazing. But it is so much like. It is so much, and you definitely want to be best friends you want us to. Love with the the way the person thinks where they navigate through hard times the way they fight like how do they fight or they nicer than mean like you know, it's like you just like being partnered up with someone for your whole life as a huge commitment so. It just takes one. I would say Jessie James Decker taught me this, she said. Write your letter to God. Ride out what you're looking for what you're thankful for about your husband. Right in present tense and be like I'm so thankful that my husband has these traits treats me like this makes me feel like this even has a career like this. Right out what your dream guy is in a letter to God as if it's already happening and then. Watch it manifest. That was the best advice I ever got. And it worked, and so I would just do that. Letter Gaden manifested and believe he's out there. okay last question, let's see. What is your guiding light as you navigate your path? My guiding light is trust. Your instincts trust my instincts a trust. A heart tugs on my heart. I. Believe that we should leave people better than you found them. I like to see the good others I to the good of myself. I want the world. We happy place. and. I'll wrap up by saying. Leave my light. Always ask you believe their light. We're all here for a reason. We meant to be here. All are warranted completely different circumstances some are. Way More heartbreaking than others. But every part of our life each person's life. Perfectly may in there is a bigger purpose behind it. I believe it. Leave this life is meant to? Bless us in the long run. Even if we have to endure really hard things I think that. God is good. All the suffering has a reason and that. Humanity is ultimately go. We just get lost in. Our Egos and if we could all just realize that we are all divinely made. We're all. Children of God and your God I mean. We came from God's God is in all of us. We all see. The Gods sparkin everyone. What a better life! This would be so that's what I try to do I try to look for the God's work and everyone knows someone is mean attacking you and. Hurtful snow that hurt. People hurt people. And not prison is hurt and sir. Try to give them love instead of hate. I'm a work in progress on that. Sometimes you see happening any dishonor can't. You just want to. Rip into somebody but like. You can. Use It with love. 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Jennifer Wayne: John Waynes Granddaughter talks about lessons learned from being a professional tennis player, The Amazing Race, and her Top Ten song Buy My Own Drinks with her hit trio Runaway June, currently on tour with Carrie Underwood.
"My Name is Danny Shapiro and I'm the host family secrets a podcast about the secrets kept from US secrets. We keep from others and the secrets we keep from ourselves CBS. Family secrets is show where you can hear powerful stories of heartbreak healing and hope listen to season two family secrets on apple podcasts the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts the laugh in just blow in this episode of podcast so much fun uh-huh. I did it with one of my best friends of all time John Wayne. We have been friends for over a decade. We've done so much stuff together from writing songs. We were in a trio stealing angels together. We did the amazing race twice together. Season twenty two where we got fourth place season twenty before we went back for all stars and we got second place. We talk all about all of our our journey together. We talk about stories from the amazing race. We talk about music. We talk about about failing succeeding how you overcome how you keep going and now John is in the hit trio runway June. It's an all female trio and they have a top top ten song by the time you hear this podcast though it's probably going to be a top five song because it's killing charts it's called by gene by my own drinks drinks and Jin all out perseverance staying strong not giving up in it's so inspiring and so much fun to have this conversation so get excited side. Here's Jim Hello Hello. I'm here John Wayne what's going on Jin. I'm staring at your baby. Aw I mean it's the I mean it's beautiful by the time this episode airs. I will probably have a child. Isn't that crazy. Yes that is crazy and for all the listeners Karen I have known each other forever so the other players like fourteen occur or fifteen maybe long I mean I've known you since the day you moved to. Nashville pretty much because you yes 'cause you moved into a house that you remember list. Oh my God we Beth Cooper Potter now driving. You're GONNA forever twenty. One still my favorite store and you were about to break up with your boyfriend and you didn't know how to break up with them. I'll never forget that house about right hot mess. I mean I think we met and I was like twenty three in your late twenty four or twenty five twenty four twenty four and now I'm actually when I was twenty three and you're twenty two. Do you speak your age. Yes okay great just the grand old thirty seven. I'm a grandma thirty six so we've known each other for like thirteen years yeah yeah because I remember hearing the great eight because I had moved here to Nashville from Texas small town girl to be a country music singer and my friend from college bet it's like got this. House on craigslist Yeah Yeah John. Wayne's granddaughter is moving from California and she urged to Woah Chihuahua. She's GonNa live with me and I'm like I that point. I was like why are aren't you. GonNa live in a mansion John Wayne's granddaughter. You should be living so her like a don't you have like a mansion and a limousine service and all sports stuff wish Donovan Cool. This Jedi moved into a house with six girls and you lived in a closet basically wonder lived in a tent in the backyard yeah no I had a room room so what happened was listening. I rented from this girl who said it was going to be me and her and my one dog and I get there and she had literally rented every crevice of the House out she rented the Sun Room out the closet addict out there was a girl living in a tent in the backyard like Gordon Yeah associated with fan or something like a TV thinkers and it was so crazy and like all these dogs that member Rebecca and her dog to her dog was so scared of everything oh so yeah. That was my first. Nashville experience. I've met you like literally right when you moved to town yeah the day. I think it was the day Dan Remember you're driving in that car and we were both Kinda shy and so we SORTA started linking up trying to do music together like almost instantly ish yeah no instantly. We started writing together either. You had a deal. You had a record deal you've to town. Oh my God yeah. I forgot about that yeah yeah. Griffin started like wheel of Fortune region right. Yes jeopardy wheel fortune. He was like the first late night. Talk Show guy he was like before Johnny Carson and here's Your Griffin Show Godfather he he was like like a godfather. He wasn't my godfather but he's just like was like a Grandpa to me. You know he was so sweet and he wrote the theme song for Jeopardy and he had a number one song in the country lovely bunch of coconut wrote that I've got the lovely venture coconuts Italy. He did not know that was him singing singing too crazy. He's like so talented creative brain right that strange song. I know I love that and the jeopardy theme song yeah so he's pretty awesome raising okay so you moved to town because you were in California and then. How did you decide to move to Nashville well? I always wanted to be a songwriter yes and so. I just knew that the best songwriters in the world were here and I kind of tried to do it a little bit in. La and I would write with people you know here and there but I just knew that if I wanted to be the best I had to be around people that were the best and I was definitely not even close to being the best so I moved moved here and if I would've known how hard it was then I would have never moved. I mean I was so naive. I had this idea yeah so I was just and I I should have quit probably so many times. I don't know why kept going but I just kept going. You should not have no seriously you know well you know. I think that's one thing that happens in the musical entertainment journey is it doesn't happen right away. No and you've really got to want it because if you don't want it you're not going to get because this town can swallow you even though it will wear you out. Everyone's kind loving and it's amazing community but you've got to want it. You got to kick butt and you're going to stay okay with it yeah well. It's so weird because I am sorry. If you guys here like a hard breathing that's to loo- Masami it was this tiny little thing and he is so big. He's had a few dog bones and but you know it's really weird. As some people moved to town happens like that like some people it just happened so fast and then some people it takes forever and I think you have to like not get caught up in worrying about the people that made it so fast because I feel like I got had a little bit of that for like five years. I'm like all my friends. were making it all the people. I've grown up with. We're all successful now and I'm still at the very beginning you know and it's hard to like not compare yourself to that or not. Look at that and be like shoot. You know Myron either you just Kinda have to focus on yourself and just keep going and comparison is the the joy no is that without quotas comparisons joy or something like Oh. I've never heard that but yeah so tell me a little bit about your journey so tell me how we break it down for me. Tell me and also for everyone listening Jenner's professional tennis player all being the keyword before she became a hit singer songwriter. She was a professional tennis player before so you have many talents well thank you was definitely the keyword the also moved to town with that deal and we made a record with Carl Jackson and less bluegrass US Loughran. I loved it and it was kind of a bluegrass record but unfortunately murph passed away before it was done so the deal kind of just faded and and I saw like okay. I've got to figure something else out and I remember I got this manager and she was Madonna's manager and she was awesome. Yes crease but she she lived in. La and she didn't really know. Nashville and she's like okay. Let's just do showcase. I had played like five live shows in my life. I didn't know what I was doing and so she set up at this huge showcase mortar. Every label in town was there. There were news crews. They're like people were waiting outside the door and I was so arena clean because you're John Wayne's granddaughter your gorgeous so everyone was curious. To what is this going to be like. I know very bad very bad and and it was crazy though because you have to fall sometime like I fell so hard that night I thought he did well and then I got passed by every single label. I was like Oh my God and I just remember like wanting to just move home and thought like I can never show my face in this town again like everybody knows I failed old. Everybody Pass on me like I can't. I can't stay here and I don't know why did stay here. I think I just was so stubborn. But how do you deal with moments like that. When you feel feel like you've really put yourself out there. You're super vulnerable and expose and like you said you felt like you had failed obviously failure it all led to where you are now but at the time it it felt like a and it was a failure at the time which is okay. It's okay yeah. How do you decide that. You'RE GONNA show your face again. Like what do you tell yourself in those moments. I don't honestly I don't know I just remember going home and just bawling crying. My best friend Ray was with me and we went out and had Sushi and I think I drink all the sake and the world that night but I think I like cried for probably a week of just like how am I gonNA show my face again and I don't really remember what the moment was but I do remember my mom calling me and saying that my Grandpa who's John Wayne and one of the most famous people in the world and he didn't really become a star till he was in his fifties he he did did over two hundred seventy movies and he really didn't come into his you know huge start until later in life she was like so. Don't give up like you're you're. You're just doing it the hard way a inside just state and that's when honestly you and I started writing a lot and you're kind of in a position where you are super talented but you're kind of afraid to put yourself self outs afraid and so. I think it was just easier to do it together. You know I think that's like for me always been super helpful to have friends and support chorus and like doing something together with someone. That's like you give each other the strain so that's a weird it for each other and we locked in and yeah it was fun to it was awesome awesome and then Taylor we had a little while child his Loretta. Lynn's granddaughter hopped on board. Yeah kept everything spicy and she taught I feel like like both of us a lot because she just had no inhibitions she'd get on stage and she was just fearless and offier so I think she were like really taught us how to be a performer aspect of it to get out of our. Shell 'cause interviews. She was so sometimes to real into raw but it taught us how all to be honest and how to activate that PARV assault instead of just being so nervous that everything had to be perfect. Yeah I think we saw with her. That people responded to to her outrageous realness. Yeah and setting yourself out there solve out there yeah yeah. It was like boot camp. I feel an Iran was caught stealing angels. I feel like like even though it didn't pan out. It was the greatest thing that could have happened for all three of us. Yeah just to prepare us for this entertainment journey totally and that's like looking back now. Thirty seven took a long time to get here felt like every single moment every single failure every single thing you did leads leads up to where you are now like. You wouldn't have the tools to be where you are now. If you hadn't done that you know and you really believe that one hundred percent with stealing angels I mean I learned so much rush from you. Girls being on stage and then radio like met so many radio people which got you and I are next job being on the other side of the music business. Tell us about that well so Carolina and I we just don't we just don't give up but we there is a label label and they hired us to be promotion. A promotion team together a duo which they promotion is the one that goes around promoting artists to to you people across the country and he hired us which yes which size we got on the other side which is so important to learn the other side of the news that wasn't a restless yeah a- and they hired us because Carolina and I knew radio from being in a band. They were like this is interesting. We've never no one's ever really done this before. They've never heard hired an artists to be on the side and we did really well famer forever enlisting. There's only one regional her region but Jin generally. We're not doing it if you don't hire us together like we're not going to go on the road and talked to all these radio. PD's who we love but like we've been used to being together in trio or s working together like we're not doing the Solo Yahtzee lowly out there on the roads too hard. It's too hard and also we knew we were good so we're like we knew we wanted to hire us and we're like this is the deal your company. Card Company card and I was it was the real deal never had a company carbon for us like ooh. Oh my gosh that's so funny. I know responsible when there was always one like super organized plan everything out and I felt like I was little sister but we had such a good dynamic dammit. I know we did because you brought me like you made me kind of more exciting where I'd be the boring one but we've totally passed a whole nother world that you and I did big world which was amazing race. That was a defining moment yeah all this is a finding moment but that was like that was crazy because it took us to a whole another stratosphere and also when our band broke up stealing angels broke up because Taylor got knocked up and she wanted to be a mommy and yeah ah was kind of like came to a screeching halt in Carolina narrowly whether we can do with our lives like Taylor got pregnant moved to Seattle. She's still married to her. Husband enjoyed and has the cutest boy now. She's like doing tribute. Band Loretta and she and Conway twitty's grandsons doing with her and she's like on cloud nine loves her life found her. It's like it's awesome. She found her spot yeah but yeah it came to a screeching halt and you and I are like what are we going to do with our lives yeah. We like the same way I think my showcase felt like it. All just came crashing down like we failed like one day to the next deal. I lost my publishing down. I don't know if you lost your. He's still had your but lost everything yeah. It was crazy and amazing. Race just happened like out of the blue. I think like a month later or some crazy. I don't us just so weird but they were looking for to country singers. God Carolina and I didn't know what we were going to do. In that came to us just fell into our laps the blue yes. Oh my gosh like yes little. Did we know what we were getting into. They were like Oh. It's a traveling show because I'd never seen it. You travel around the world world and do fun things and like Yeah Great. We had no idea how difficult your take on amazing race. What was your experience like. And what did you think about that. I mean it. It was unbelievable. It was amazing for lack of a better word but just being able to travel the world and see the way we did like. There's so many things that we would have never ever done on our own like I would never go to three Lanka or you know Malaysia wherever so it just felt like we got an experience that we would have never gotten without that show Berlanga where you made it outfit in sweatshop that was Malaysia Malaysia or China. Oh yeah maybe is that like we went to a sweatshop. I know you made Clo- An outfit yeah and you've got to see like what that really looks like like what a sweatshop in Asia and then third third world country looks like and it's crazy. That was what was so cool about amazing race. Is it puts you in the environment. You're not dislike a Taurus. You are like in real life environments that are happening in that culture yeah and you know also for you guys listening. You don't have any money like you just have the money that they give you per leg leg and so to like be at an airport and not be able to just buy a bottle of water just simple things that you would normally not even think about. It's not even about being rich. It's just being able able to buy a bottle of water to not be able to do that. It's like it just really kind of. Put things in perspective of how how lucky we are. That's that's my take on it. What are some of your favorite places we went to some of your favorite experiences and favorite teams a walk favorite teams. We love the cowboys. Boy loved the globetrotters. Dave and connor were the best and they were the father son duo who beat us at the end. I only got four seconds second place. We should've beat them fine. If we'RE GONNA lose anyone yeah they're both cancer survivors which was awesome awesome. They're amazing. I think those are my favorite teams. my favorite experiences will. Switzerland and I think it was just so beautiful like that cheese. The thing was not my favorite experience so what that that one was was lower is called myself. The man of our relationship with the Brion Gyn was my damsel and we had these forty fifty pounds pound jails of cheese that we had to haul up a mountain of snow. It's here at Jenin. I two girls not huge girls at all. No and there's big guys that were there doing exact same challenges us same way of cheese. I mean it's like thank you get no advantages. No it's all the same for everybody the physical part we get. It's tougher for women I feel like so we had all these bales of cheese up to this no filled mom long load them up on a sled and get them to down mountain and they're like falling the bailed falling. When the cheese balls off it sinks into the snow like it's not like it just falls falls often grass like you have to dig down in the snow to get out and it's like you can do. I WANNA eat the cheese hung in there. I thought we were going to hang in there and I know that was a great advantage. Yeah do you think so. Oh one hundred percent and no one thought we could do it. Everyone was like Oh. Let's keep gin and caroline around because we we can beat them at the end so let's keep them in the dirt man totally we worked it and then. I don't know which because we did two seasons season twenty four all stars this season twenty two and then all sorts of four so I might be mixing up the seasons but one time the cowboys had an express pass and how did you sweet talk me into. That was my theory. I'm like listen so an express pass telling the challenge because I was losing my mind my gosh curling with how we put together a car a big big lake toy a car and it was the directions in Chinese and she doesn't like putting stuff together to begin with. I know you love this. I thought you didn't realize that was my mom. It's unbelievable. Oh my God and I'm terrible too so Oh my poor Carolina it was that was that challenge was a nightmare nightmare so Carolina's just breaking down. She's like crying and I'm just watching her and everyone's breezing through. It and I'm like we're going to lose like we're GONNA get eliminated. She's having a breakdown and I'm like I have to express express pass or we lose and they express as you get to bypass that challenge cowboys had one for themselves and then they had to give one to another team yeah and they could give it to whoever they want at any time and so. I just went there and I just started working but my my reasoning was unlike listen. We are not a threat. You know we're GONNA use it right here so it will never be a threat to you in the future future they already done they already done already going to win the leg and unlike we're going to waste it right now and we're the worst team so if we're not a competition for anybody so you might it is we'll give it to US rather than the one of the good teams that could meet you yeah actually no. I know that's very honest. I worked got it. Never Forget your gave it to you just so thankful enough to put that thing together. I was like we're this is where it's over. Yes where we died. I know I knew it to our stop o but Jan.. That's one thing when you get in the zone. You can get in zone like when you know you gotta get something done and drop the hammer. I'll drop it. You'll drop it yeah. It's a good team. I don't I'm not really as good at dropping the hammer like I'm kind of a start a little more. It feels like in life sometimes on a regular basis yeah but are sort of in the beginning yes I'm like the slow snail but like I just won't stop and then when you really GonNa lay down you get a look in your eyes get focused it. It is happening. Oh my gosh. That's so funny and we got it we going. What were your one of your favorite. You know I'd love Web getting see the different cultures like you're saying it was so cool to go to Sri Lanka and like reading the text which are like little. He's the crazy cars that are going everywhere and I don't know how people don't get their no. Lehnhoff in high sticking their heads out cars running next to and there's no like no lanes or no pattern like this all all wild why don't wreck every day. I know I know we see that. Culture was amazing. I loved going to Africa. I love going to Africa and we got to stay in a cool place and that night when when we got to the bushmen asked us to do their little ritual Mike did the damage by the fire their babies and stuff it was unbelievable so so I remember thinking to myself after amazing race like it changed me in the way that to seeing so much of the world and getting to have so much intimate so many intimate experiences with with cultures and the apple in sculptors it over my eyes so much to realizing that there are so many ways to live life and seven ways to be happy and you can ours isn't the only way or the right way. You know stuck in your life here. Sometimes which we have it's amazing. It's awesome to live in America. It's the greatest country I think and I know you gotta same way percent but it's like it was just so over me up so much. There's somebody ways to go through this life. I know all the colors yeah like even the dance that we learned in Sri Lanka not one. I think that was three Lanka right. was that Spain no that's another dance the dance where we had like twirl having twirl the plates on your head. Yeah one person out of two plates on the head and and dance and the other one had to do when so I took that for the team but like all the colors are Sony beautiful colors in the world. You know all that just outfits send the different cultures amazing little really good teammates. I have to say we never like obviously got so frustrated with each other because it's impossible not to but we never went below the belt. We never really thought we just got frustrated. At ten sometimes like other teams would break down and yell and we'd just like yeah and we held it together all time that one story when we're running like it's towards the pitstop in Berlin or in Ireland and we're both running and I'm telling those cobblestone streets and I'm telling you to go under your other hand like no. You're the wrong way. What did I say we're both wrong. We're both we're both on the wrong way. We I started laughing 'cause you. You're right as rose right. I was trying. I get stubborn and I was like trying to beat in your head that I was. We're both wrong but that got you. You finally were like you're both wrong but we I will say member when we were. We're in Gosh. I don't know where it was. I think it was England actually and we were driving in the car broke down because I had the parking brake on driving on the highway and she's driving a stick shift on the left. Side of the road learned how to drive a month before yes. I am the the stick is on your left hand so it's not even just the other side. The whole thing is different and I remember thinking. Oh my God. If you ever want to know if you should marry a person just go drive a stick shift in traffic in London lost cost and see if you guys can still get along their tests. I think you could like pass anything past marriage. Yes barely early to me doing the directions you driving. We were both like it was impossible until like be able to still communicate. Mutate alike not totally lose it on each other that in that stressful situation as they are thought okay. That's gotta be the test. That's the marriage test we we didn't really good. I feel like because you and I decided ahead of time that we were always assumed the best in each other because I knew you wanted to win just just as much as I did but we'll have our physical limitations that are going to pop up and circumstances and we always just assumed even like if we really mad inside and wanted it's like we never did because really okay. I know that person I know she's doing the best she can and then next time it's GonNa be me the grace and I felt like we both did really really well with like keeping each other lifting like when we were stressed out or having a bad like when I was the very first episode when I was stuck in the sand for eight hundred hours you're so nice took Jan.. You can do it like you're so positive and I just for you couldn't find the ticket I know it was so hot and it was just a luck thing and then by the time they started rebuilding the sand castles they were building it on different putting it back on a different place so it was impossible we it was in bore bore in the first challenge was all of these castles in genetic five hundred five hundred and there was a few clues under them yeah so you had to dig each one up and if you didn't clear to rebuild it and so you were and it was hot the sand was not you had to pack the sand and it was hot ah dry so. I had to go to the ocean and get like water to pack the San each building. Each sandcastle took five minutes right hours. Finally we got down to three teams event. It was maximum Katie and then firefighter firefighters and we did something that had never happened in amazing race history. We called called. We all decided that we're going to what was it take a penalty and so because all of us knew isn't going to be impossible to find the ticket ticket the sand castles were put on different places so we couldn't it was impossible and everyone had been out there for hours and so okay then explain what happened next so we agreed to take a penalty and and from that point on it was just like a race to the to the finish line and whoever loses is out eliminated. It was the first episode of our entire like the first show AH WE'RE GETTING UP I if you don't make it that's the only time ever aired on TV and so we were like I cannot believe this is happening and you had to go to any other countries crazy miss everything yeah and so we from that Sandcastle on we had to sprint to make a canoe canoe by ourselves to girls everyone else I'd guys on their team and like tie together and and make the canoe yourself and then canoe a mile and a half to the finish line and we were against men firefighters ocean and I'd never canoed before and I was so tired because I've been in the sand for like eleven hours whereas I had nothing left and so the fact that we out canoed the firefighters is no idea because they felt they hit thank God they and we balance wants and stayed up and you just you carried us a tobin 'cause I had nothing left well. I found something in me that I never have had since amazing race in might not ever have again which which is a sense of reserve energy that I didn't know I had and I hadn't been building for eleven hours when it came to mazing race and it came to getting stuff done you are just I wanted I didn't I was not going to let a physical tiredness. Stop me and that is not high in real life because I will stop and realize you know but we gotta go. We gotta get there like we got to sit out. I think I want. I haven't want something that badly yeah well and it's a competition you feel like you're kind of in the hunger games out there like yeah yeah no never that was torturous fate that could have happened but you just lose with it too. I do too but you really powered us through through that and we somehow out canoed the firefighters on a mile and a half long canoe ride after buildings in one hundred degree heat brand eight hours and we lived we made it all the way to the final season finale to every country but how good taste after you work so hard like that challenge and sleep and sleep like I don't. I never had a problem falling asleep. Oh no I could sleep for I could just close my eyes and then fall asleep and today it takes me like an hour to fall asleep. Yeah that was being not exhausted help. No I'm so grateful for that. Experience need to my name is Danny. Shapiro and I'm the host family secrets a podcast about the secrets kept from US secrets. We keep from others and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Family secrets is more than just a podcast audio experience. 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It's America listen subscribe to my new podcast modern rules on apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcast you know what a blessing around the perfect time of our life because we both kinda thought everything was over and it it gave kind of like a new sense of ourselves like we can do anything can literally do anything. We put our mind to let you take away from it all. It's what was your big. What was your gathering from all of it. I mean I just thought two girls that should have been eliminated on the first episode of the first time they did it and they ended up going going all the way both times losing the second time by four seconds all these other teams that are so much stronger than us. We beat and it was just awesome. What it was like mental. We like mentally delete persevered and we did it was awesome. What did you learn about mental being. What did you learn mentally like what. What did you take away from that because there were teams that were stronger than there were better than us so but being a mental game. What did you realize with all that. That's everything yeah yeah. I mean it really is you can either you can make or break yourself with your mind. Yeah you know you can keep yourself going your minds the thing that's telling your body to keep going. It's not your physical Michael thing. I you know you just gotTa keep keep at it and I felt like that. Just showed you so much like mind over matter mind over matter and we did it. You're really good at not getting flustered like even if you get for second. You're really good at pointing back together. Do you think that's from being an athlete or what do you think that's from or is it just your personality. I think all all my parents divorced how many divorces like eight something crazy yeah. No I do like I always have to be the one to keep it together her and just like even in every situation. I find myself and I'm always kind of like 'cause you. Don't let yourself fall apart no but then you'll have movement but it is Roy hair yeah. It's a I think I'm mentally pretty tough but I do drink wine. Do you think it started as a kid. Yeah I think just like being tossed around and families like that and I was the oldest so I had to take care of my brother and sister and I think you know and they my brother kind of pat struggled with it. So if I didn't keep it together who would he have so I just kind of had to and I think that's how it just what's my whole life and then like moving to Nashville ahead. Nobody no family here and so. I just had to be my own my own strength. What has your mind wanted to do because like what has major mind be strong strong. What is the goal that your mind says be strong for. I guess I'm never thought about that. That's a really good question probably for myself like believing in myself off and I think because you've had things that you have known that you wanted to become chief things your whole life yeah. You've always had high expectations for yourself. Yeah and I always know I can do it but there's also that kind of thing in the back of your head. That's like no you can't do it like you know you're not good enough and so that's a battle all of like battling that going no actually. I can do it like I can work hard and I can do it and I can do anything. Put my mind to and so. I think that that's something for myself. Just no work hard be nice to people and you just persevere. Don't give up you know when you could be not the most talented prison which is me and but seriously could like you could be the most talented person in the world and never make it because you're not mentally strong and you and you give up. Maybe one day before you get the record deal the next day you know. I just feel like people give up too soon. When did you realize that being mentally strong working hard with the answer well all my life and tennis to like real your gadgets shoot it he Jimmy Connors and he's amazing. Who's Jimmy Jimmy Connors coach. Yeah tennis because even if I was losing and even if the girl was a better player I knew that if I stuck in there mentally beat so many people and I'm not I don't even kidding. That's how I won a lot of matches I do in your head. What is I just like. I wouldn't give up and like I would change game. A lot of people don't like slices. This is all talk but I just figured out what would make the other person fall apart and I wouldn't give up and so they're really feel like a mentally one a lot of my matches 'cause I just wouldn't give up so that's kind of what so you started a self spiraling or hearing that voice your head saying you're not good enough. You can't do this. What do you do to flip it because you obviously flip it. How do you flip it. I think having faith in God for me is it's like the main thing. How do you know that you're good enough to flip. It like for people who don't like you. Don't I mean you know you're good enough. Insight your guts telling you you're good enough. You're all everybody's good enough world. We all have deep down that you're good enough. Leave that yes you trust your gut and but I do think that there's so many you I know people that are telling you you're not or you're failing or you haven't made it yet whatever and for me like having faith in God just going okay. I wouldn't be on this path if God oh I didn't want me here you know and if there are all these blocks like if I feel like I would feel like I'm going down the wrong path if I was and I never did. I just felt like it wasn't happening but like you'd be hitting roadblock after roadblock to roadblock resistance yeah just not feeling like it's right yeah and I've failed failed but then one more door would open this thing led to at this and so I just kept hanging in there whether it was calling it yeah being working at a label working at a publishing company being whatever it was just like staying in music. There's Orissa's always a door that was open so I felt like God wanted me to not be doing this. He would have closed all the doors and I would have known so. It's just like trusting him going okay you. Do you want me here so I'm going to do it for myself and for you you know and if you don't want me here I will know it and do you believe that he would have opened another adore somewhere else. I one hundred percents who believe in your heart that he will guide you yet with the door closed if you trust him and sometimes those doors closing. It's like a paint horrible painful road. Yes and it's not like he makes it all shiny and pretty no and some of sometimes a lot of times I find it. You know like I'm like no. I don't WanNa to do this but I just feel like you. You have a gut feeling that's always right and sometimes we have that gut feeling and we know it but then our mind talks you into something else and so you just have to have faith that that's the right decision you know on the right path so what has always been your goal ultimate goal because all these career journeys that you've been on that have been so amazing like ultimately like it's been. They've all lead to where you are now built. What was your goal always from the beginning. I've always wanted to be a songwriter that was it not even not even singer. I mean I wanted to be a singer but if I like my heart with song writing and I wanted to make music that people board here and be affected by because music's helped me so much in my life going through whatever you go through. There's always music and so I just thought God if I could do that you know if I could make music that touches people. That would just be everything on what how did it feel when you were nominated for. Song of the year with she don't love you. She's just lonely with Eric Paisley Ashley Crazy that like all your dreams coming true. Yeah it really well. That's also personal for you. Yeah and I think to the same thing like with your mind. Do you struggle with like Oh my God. I don't deserve this or like how. Why am I here how you but then you're like wait no I do. I do deserve this. It's the same thing where you kind of second. Guess Yourself Golf and I think that's kind of probably struggle for a lot of people like even when stuff comes to your kind of like oh do I deserve this. Am I really that good. I'm not no I can't be that was just is luck or you. Just kind of always second guess yourself so you kind of have to sometimes just enjoy the moment and say you know what I do deserve myself. I mean I do deserve this and it's so funny I heard a an interview that she did and they're interviewing her in this big beautiful house that she got in the interviewer was like do do you ever just like look around and think oh my gosh. How did I get this house. How does this happen to me and she goes no. I know exactly how I got this. I know exactly all the work but it took to get me this house. You know and I love that because it's probably not the answer that you want but it's like no. I worked for this. This didn't just fall into place. I worked so I heard this. I love that I thought that too and like I struggle with just feeling like I'm your. I think your way more confident than I am. You got that iron trap mine but I struggle with not feeling like I'm worthy of things and I don't know what that is because I just feel like I always always second. Guess myself that I'm not good enough. Someone's better and there's always someone like some people are just so confident and they're just like this is me. I've always meant to be here. This is my role Roland. I don't care I'll do whatever it takes but neom always like my gosh. Did they know I'm here sophistication. They're gonNA find me out and get kicked out uh-huh. I seriously feel the same way I think it's I honestly think because you have empathy or empath me too and like we're always we care are so much you know and we're worried about other people and we're like do. I deserve this but there's people out there that don't have it in like. Why am I getting it you know and I think that that's a lot part of it. Too is is that you really feel like you're. You're not just taking it going. Yeah deserve to be here like you're like no my gosh. You're working for and you feel you feel for other people you. I know I wish I think that sometimes you me too. I wish I hated animals janitor mile at one time Jin her mom in a grocery store and they spent like two hours chasing a bird word out of the store because they didn't want it to be trapped in there. I probably shouldn't be telling the story because it's documented but the other night it's like animals. Find me because I know you'll save some driving down my street to get home and I went to me Jackie out for a drinks and I had had two drinks wchs am I normally never drink and drive only Uber Uber everywhere but this was so close. I was like okay. I'm just going to drive home in pat two drinks and I'm driving home and there was a baby raccoon in the middle of the street the and and it's not moving and I'm like Oh my God here and this is having a possums I mean I'm the one that stops and saves them and some stopped on the side of the road in these cars are rushing by and I'm like stopping traffic to save this baby raccoon and I'm like a cop comes like I'm going to get a deal that could either go home right now and leave the Raccoon Koon not get a Dui or I could stay here with raccoon and like risk getting a Dui even though I really don't think I have enough to over but I remember having that thought where I'm like screw it. I'm going to get shoe. GonNa do God. I called every animal thing. No one was answering wasn't moving when you walked up to know and then I did something dumb competit- because I was like maybe it will be like take it and so a pet it hits but it didn't bite got hit by a car I think so and so I read read on all these like websites that you go back and you get a box and you've covered with a blanket and pick it up and then I could take it to an animal place the next it's morning but by the time I went back I went and got my box from a wine that I bought a big old box of came as Iraq and was GonNa go came as I love it and by the time I got back it had. I don't know why wasn't there anymore. Well that's good. I know hopefully really hopefully it's okay. Maybe you woke him up but that happens to me all the time it happened with the possum to on that same street and I waited there in the rain it was when we were having an ice storm and it was just happening and I was just getting poured on and I just thought with the Pasta until the animal control came and got him so so that's how crazy I am. I think that's really sweet chase stray dogs around the neighborhood. Oh yeah they all waking up looking at the sights to see what strays are missing and like chasing him down. No luckily because I'm not home and do that anymore yeah but my mom has taken the same way oh she's the same way but bow now is like. I rescued a pit bull and somehow we got him to California on a plane when they wouldn't allow pit bulls. I'm covered in Maine. I mean oh my gosh and so we got him to Melvin now. He's living the life on the beach. It's it God okay so tell me how you've gotten to where you are now. So after start off tennis started off moving doing solo things we got together. We formed a band and amazing race then you also after amazing race. Were pursuing another band for a little while to yeah I was in It was called Darlington Abbey with Josh He's an incredible player but I just kind of I guess just kept writing was like the main thing and then that Eric passing song really kept me going because my publishers signed me again because of that and so and then Benny Brown who is head of broken bow at the time he saw Naomi staying and he had heard about my songwriting and you and it's Kinda how it all happened really songwriting. I feel like it's Kinda what Eddie Yeah and then then joined that band which has been away June and that was five years years ago. I think five years ago that's crazy but even that I mean it's been a long road for us. I mean we have this is our third single and Dan girls that get married and came after us. That'd be so many girls came after us at just skyrocketed and we have been waiting waiting for the moment that we're going to make it and finally this year we've had we just had our first top. Ten did break history with your first single 'cause y'all which we wrote together so they asked. Lucky and grateful to be part of that so caroline and I wrote lipstick our first single together and also our title track blue roses so pretty it's beautiful. It's my favorite song and album pretty over Brigham history though even he didn't have a number one or top ten whatever you at trio female trio hadn't the top twenty five and took the yeah. It was crazy so that was like okay. You're getting some credit we were. We were getting awesome like we got nominated for ACM New Group of the year or two times we were getting you know recognition yeah recognition and you know I think for for us just being out there grinding it out on the road and figuring out like what we like to play live what people like to hear live. It just took a lot of growth on the road for us to get to where we are now and I feel like now you could just put us in any situation and we're like we've been there done it. When you play anything we could have any sound problem any whatever problem could happen nice to be at that point yeah and feels good because you're like you know what I worked for this. You know I feel I feel confident and comfortable comfortable because I've been in this situation a thousand times uh-huh before three now know how to work together and all situation yeah and also like having people that carry who underwood forget forget that I've been on Tour Carrie underwood all year. It's been amazing but having people like her. She didn't give you like her stamp of approval that just it just means everything and I feel like that all the People John Party that did it all the people that have helped us in our career. It's just kind of little things that have gotten us to this point point and it's just a crazy feeling very grateful for the community and like the people that have reached out and helped and I feel like we could do that to oh. You know like every every female to especially that kind of breaks there. I feel like we're breaking down doors for people up and coming new artists behind us you know is it hard hard. Being a female and country music do feel that. I don't think it's hard because we're going to be in our own world and we just go play. We do what we do but I think when you look look at the charts you definitely see this. There's a definite lack of females on. I think there's three females right now. In the top thirty it's US Carrie and Miranda and it's just like it's not enough. Oh you know so I don't th I don't necessarily feel like it's hard to just feel like there's an obvious lack of of female airplane and also not just radio but on fairs and festivals and tours and it just feel like we all have been talking about it so long but like we need to start doing stuff carey. She just did it like I'm taking to feel ex- Allen tour you know and I feel like that's the next stop for this year next year. Just everybody like start me yeah so the conversation has been had and it's time it's tired yes analysis do yeah speaking of top thirty top ten single. It feels amazing. I mean y'all came by my drinks. I was like if this song it does not go all the way then I shocked I have your voicemails saves just because I I deleted all my voice mails but I specifically say about about one because it was one of the coolest voice mail voice messages I've ever gotten and she called and she was like Jen. This is the one that it's the one and I have it. I'm like yeah. I'M GONNA keep it forever and you right you will it just felt so good if so positive in its women empowerment but it's not male bashing we love Herman. You love your man but you lost a frigging love yourself and it's like you're just table to have a great time and do your own thing as as you are without a man and friends like the beginning it was like I called my friends. They can't go out like like you. Don't need your friends. You don't need a man. You'll need anyone to make yourself happy. You can make your own self happy and it saying just for the tonight. Yeah Keno what I'm still not over this guy. I'm just going to be by myself tonight. I'm not GonNa just jump into something else. You know it's just like I think you said it best. You said itself self love. It is about self love. My favorite line is going to be my own boyfriend saying yes. You can't be boyfriends and you should be your own boy seriously just die every time we saying that line. What's going to happen in the crowd and it's so just? Oh and the guy is eleven eleven heck yeah heck. Yes everybody loves. It is so good. Oh it's so good I'm so happy for you and just like your whole journey to get here and of stuck doc with it and to never give up. Stay mentally strong. It's just a testament to don't give up. It is if I can do it because you're you're twenty three twenty three years old. How many record deals have you had three three record. Kerr deals mixed with a million jobs and entertainment song plugger a radio REP. I mean we've done it. All you too but it's just like like you could have easily quit any of those times and just been like this is too hard. I'm not GONNA do this. I wanted to what what keeps you going because you knew that you would get here. Did you know you'd get here. I did and I didn't like I feel like you know you have to know like I said it's in your gut. You have to know that you can do it but your mind will be like. Oh what it really can't but you know I can but you had to know a lot. At least you had to know pretty strongly because this is a hard thing to keep going for if you don't strongly feel it. I think I'm just stubborn Michigan. I think I'm very stuff but I really truly believed to that like I was telling you about my faith in God and if if my journey was going to change even if I wasn't going to make it how I wanted to make it it was gonna lead me to what I was supposed to be doing and that's really what I believed even still to this day. It's like whatever I'm doing. Now is for a reason I'm here for a reason yeah and I'm on the right path so you trust it. Yeah I feel like you have to or else. It's impossible. You kinda like being an industry that forces you to trust that much in God yeah I mean for me. That's everything and I feel like especially country music. We're like a family and that's what's so special about it and we talk about God or in this day. Sometimes it's not the coolest thing to talk about but yeah faith is so important and I feel like this whole community kind of embraces that and I think it's wonderful. What's one of the moments that you think about back in your life that just makes you smile from ear to ear and brings you so much joy when you think back on my dogs everytime. I've rescued a dog the honestly the truth I like that's also songwriting is what I left but I really want to make a change for animals and I would I love to start a sanctuary for old dogs that kind of thrown out when they're older and just want them to have like a good life at the end you know and beloved at the end because I think that's everyone adopts new dogs than new pepys but all the old ones kind of get left behind so that's what I WANNA do. I love the mix fix them make some money to do so. That's like your goals charity island. You've always been dogs. Yeah and I love kids. Obviously I mean kids. Kids and dogs are are everything but I feel it. Definitely put dogs dogs on my heart for reason because probably so many people have kids on their heart. You know I think he definitely put that on my heart it for a reason. What does success mean to you after everything you've seen growing up with John. Was your grandfather like you've seen success and you have been on your own journey of major highs major lows. What is success for you at this point not giving up seriously like to me when I look back. I'm like so proud of myself for that. Obviously there's all these accomplishments that you create that. You've that happen but for me. I'm like wow I never gave up and that success he no you could have to fail is is to not get up when you do fail you know and failing is a part of success. All those things lead to it so I feel like not giving up. It's like that's. That's the coolest part. If you had to pick a song for your theme song of life what would be God well. My favorite song of all time is don't worry baby by the beach boys and I'm a worry wart. You worry about everything everything no. I mean Ah yes. It's crazy. You don't seem like you were yours an internal warrior. Oh Yeah you don't speak your worries. No I just in my brain just think about every every single thing they could ever happen. What natural disasters like dogs your career. Yeah everything dogs career my mom every friends I mean just it is everything. Are you on constant replay with worry yes Jane. I know this is strong. Now I know when I battled. I've battled with that of the most most. That's my wine really helps me but it's so funny that Song William was engaged when he asked me to marry him during that song and so now I'm like dying baby yeah so it kind of ruined my favorite song so my goal is to now find a moment with that song that can change that memory okay so I think that's my I gotta figure that out. What is love to you know at this point after all the things because you've had your so loving and you've had a lot of love and friendships men I mean you've you know you've you're a loving person. What does love mean to you obviously been engaged I don't know I guess love means being kind and caring and I think I think like you like how a saying you're an empath. I I think I am too as just you know always wanting to help wanting to help people and I think sometimes that's gotten me in trouble because I find people that I wanNA help the same really zero exactly like Oh. I see you deep down underneath all of these terrible terrible. I oh I don't know why but it must be something because you see the best and everyone got a beautiful thing but I'm GonNa work on saving dogs now instead of men for a year yeah but I do think is like the first thing I can think of kindness I think love is so much but being kind to one another and and caring for people in Animal Okay so what's on your bucket Hillis. Now you are in a hit trio breaking records on toward Kerry. You're writing. Songs are in the top ten. I mean you're doing the deal so what's left of Wolf Beckett List Music Wise. It would be unbelievable to be nominated for a grammy and win and win win. It a total totally having the honour would be just unbelievable and then non music wise. I Really WanNa go to India. I've always wanted to go to India Nia. WanNa do a mission trip there and it just haven't been able to do it but that's like a been on my heart since I was a kid and I have no idea why that and I wanna go see much. Up to which which you've done that's those are my bucket list. Let's say grace advice you ever gotten my aunt basically saying don't give up but she was like listen. You're moving into Nashville. You WanNa be a solo singer. She was like just a little advice for you. Take any opportunity that comes with music. She's like don't take it because because it's not exactly what you want. She was like if you to read bike and you wanted to black bike. You can still ride a bike so I never forgot that because it was like oh maybe I wanted to. I moved here to be a solo singer but maybe that wasn't my path. Maybe I was supposed to be in a trio or maybe it was a songwriter. Maybe it was working for a record label like whatever it was and music should just you said be open to it. Maybe not being exactly what you wanted but be open to those opportunities and I feel like I could have said no to so many because it wasn't wasn't put together in your mind yeah and it was tough. Yeah you know and we said you and me said yes everything that we did okay. Yes everything and it meant being here. All that stuff got both of us here so I think that was probably the best advice. I've gotten okay so I would like to keep talking to you but I mean it's time to wrap up. I always end with leave your light so just all your journey that you've been on everything we've gone through. Obviously you've been inspiring us this whole hour. But what is something that you just. WanNa share with people listening who maybe are lost right now who maybe are trying to find their James. Maybe feel like I don't know just they don't know what's next or they're just looking for inspiration. What is something that you want to share share that. You have just that you think could help inspire people that it's okay. It's okay to feel that way because I feel like that's a struggle for me. As I feel like I have to be perfect all all the time and that's just not reality and that it's okay to feel that way we off feel that way and don't wallow in it you know just let yourself feel that way and and and trust yourself trust got and just keep moving forward but I feel like we beat ourselves up when things aren't okay and when it's not perfect and we're not you know feeling like things. Things are exactly what we want. I just think to tell yourself. It's okay like we've all been there and love yourself. Don't don't beat yourself up love yourself. That's hard to do sometimes. It's really hard to do because we see all the flaws when like I look at you and I'm like what could you not love about yourself off the same. I feel like I feel like women especially men too but like we really do look at ourselves so differently than how we really are so I think it's a good good thing to kind of practice leading yourself and for me I have to do it. It has to be like an intentional thing. Of course I left myself. I intentionally what what do you do intentionally intentionally. If you look in the mirror and you're like oh I look fat or whatever I'm like. Wow my legs I can walk. I can run I can. My legs are beautiful. They're strong wrong. They get me places instead of thinking that they're fat yeah like I intentionally change my feelings towards myself and and a half it has to be intentional because my I brain will just go there. Yeah it'll just go to the negative about yourself so every single day. I just tried to be intentional with loving myself and like what I told well. That's my best friend. You know what I think about my what I think about my mom or whatever no you just but yourself. You're so hotter than yourself so kind of being intentional about that. Why are we so hard on ourselves. I have no idea I don't know I hope it gets better as we get older so do I do actually do feel like it's gotten better. I feel like when I was younger. I just totally pick myself apart so much and now I'm Kinda like extra. Five extra five pounds that Britney Eldeen posted. Did you see that was my favorite like those are extra. Five pounds are the moments you're having ice cream with your husband or having wine. It's like don't be so hard on yourself yes and when you get older as I've gotten older I feel like it has gotten better like it's okay. We're not perfect. Nobody's perfect. I know I know yeah I mine is. I'm always scared that people don't like me. You really and everyone loves you but I'm always scared. I don't know what it is that people just don't like me that there's like they're like Oh. We don't really like you're lying. Isn't that weird yeah. 'CAUSE everybody loves you too late and you're like what you're doing. You're spreading. Yuban ended with that. You know spreading wait. I think it's because I know my insecurities and my insecurities full ugly to me so I feel like everyone must know them and so like I'm like Oh everyone must know oh my insecurities insistence they know him. They don't like me yeah but really everyone hasn't security we all do it's crazy because actually wrote a song yesterday. Ah with my man and we it's called pretty beautiful and is saying like all these things that are beautiful are not on the outside. It's like you're pretty strong. You're pretty heart. You're everything that's that's beautiful is on inside. We'll look so much on the outside and so it's crazy a we all pick ourselves apart and what you're seeing is ugly not you're you're you. It's beautiful. You know but you're looking at yourself going. Oh my gosh that's ugly but it's not it's you I now so so we just gotTa we gotta get yourselves grace. Don't be so hard on ourselves. Yeah I love that yeah and Lo- yourself love ourselves and for me being intentional with it because you it's like a practice everyday like intentional with loving yourself genuine for president being a worry wart. Oh God no you knew great president you all the animals kids. We'd have world peace. You can live hammer down to. I'm telling you it's good move over trump well. I love you Jenn. Thank you for coming on my podcast. I'm so proud of you. It's fun during it has it has been this live with these great. It has been I we are living in complicated blockaded times. I'm seventy rule. MSNBC ANCHOR NBC News correspondent in in my new podcast modern rules. I'm going to be spending time unpacking. Some of the hairiest list of today's top decided. I was going to be a survivor. Survivor fights equal board they want new America. Listen and subscribe to my new podcast modern rules on apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcast.
New Music Friday: June 28
"More to watch and read these days than any one person can get too. That's why we make pop culture. Happy hour from NPR twice a week. We sort through the nonsense, Sherry actions and give you the lowdown on what's worth your precious time. Listen subscribe to NPR's up culture, happy hour. Happy Friday, everyone from NPR music, and all songs considered. I'm Robyn Hilton. I'm here with an powers, an new and Stephen Thompson. Hello, robert. It's new music Friday, and we're looking at the best albums out on June twenty eighth starting with the black keys, and let's rock. This is so good. The black keys. Let's rock is the name of the album. The song, we're hearing is called low high back with their first new album together in like five years. These guys have kicked around with so many other projects. Dan, our backs named shows up as producer on, basically every record, you like from the last, however many years, but they haven't come back as the black. He's put out a full on black. He's album in five years with the ferry appropriate title. Let's rock clearly. It is supposed to be an exclamation. They've always, I think been able to make music. That's very bold and aggressive. But yes, somehow very understated. You know, it's you go and see him live. It's not like they bring a whole touring band with and fill out the sound, it's just guitar and drums. I dunno. I, sometimes lament, you know, when I'll watch an award show, I'll watch an entire Grammys or an entire MTV, as and you barely see a single guitar. And you kind of wonder gosh, whatever happened to rock and roll. But the black he's really are standard bearers for the Gina. And they're finding ways to s- to strike some of those familiar notes while still moving forward at the same time, though. I mean, there are a lot of direct quotes from other songs show. This record, it's like, you know, Bob Dylan quotes, other songwriters. It's not there's no shame in that game. There's one song here that directly quotes, don't bring me down by yellow, but it makes it into a completely different thing. And that's what's cool, like, taking from the past and making it new even though you are signaling something really clearly the black keys their new album out now on June. Twenty eighth is called. Let's rock. Let's go next to an artist. I've just discovered and really, really fallen for her name is Gina rose, Bruce and her new album is called can't make you love me. You. Is. Gina rose Bruce is the artist. Her new album is called can't make you love me. In the song were hearing, the opening cut the way you make love discovery artist for me free for you to as well. Yes, I live to thank you, Robin. And I. Yeah. Me too. This artist really love her a singer from Melbourne in Australia. This is her debut. Full length record very much a break up album. She wrote in the aftermath of a relationship gone bad, and I her voice just sends me what I like about this record say, has that inevitably will be compared to Mazzy star kind of psychedelic drifts drifts. But it also has these lyrics that are kind of sharp and a little bit sarcastic. And you know, like that song, we just heard the way you make love the first line is the way you make love is a talent just in and of itself. That's hilarious. You know, in a strange way, that is about as busy as this music ever gets to. It's so much of it is just really uncluttered. I, I wanna play a little bit of a song called. I don't think I'll get over you, because it, I think captures a vibe that you hear throughout the record. Just the. Soon. Sme-. Just. Me. Don't. I mean the pace and just the, the solitude in the spare nece, it's almost suffocating to me. I think that undercuts, the vulnerability that's going on here. I mean so many of these songs are about a broken relationship, and recovering from that, that undercutting it with a certain amount of dryness, and wit helps provide a necessary balance listening to this record. I just felt like man. It's such a shame like David Lynch made that third season of twin peaks just like a year too soon. Yes, she should have been playing in that bar. End of an episode Gina rose, Bruce fantastic artists from Australia. Her new album out now is called can't make you love me. Let's go to something that I've been completely fixated on this week. The new album from Tom York, it's called anima. Tom York is the artist. His new solo album is called anima on the song is called twist obviously is the front man for Radiohead in this is third solo album, and it's got a short film to go along with it. Yeah. And highly recommend it as good as of this, taping you can just go on net flicks, and watch it as, as you said, it's a fifteen minute short film, directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, and filled with a lot of that rich kind of cinematic imagery, that you would expect from Paul Thomas Anderson, and to me, it really deepened. The experience of hearing three of the songs from this record short film, has not the news, traffic and dawn chorus, which is this very dreamy and evocative ballot actually just to give a sense of the textures on this record rub. And can you hit a little bit of dawn chorus? And I think seeing that rendered as a video really deepen the experience of that song, which kind of passed by like, oh, that's pretty. Yeah, it's very artful piece. But it it's essentially a love story man on a train sees a woman, and then, spins the next fifteen minutes, searching, her and trying to reconnect with her, and it stars Zhanna Ron Sioni, as one of the dancers in the woman falls for an and that's Tom, you real life girlfriend. It's a very beautiful and very dark, and very twisted story, and he dances, in the choreography in this is just I think absolutely mind blowing the choreographers Damian delay. And it is just the most surprising breathtaking moves. I so unexpected the way he built these songs using loops and other electron IX, I think is really interesting. He said he was inspired by flying Lotus for this record. And I really shows. Yeah. The album is out now as well as the short video. Oh, and anyone has Netflix should definitely watch it. I think I watched it four five times. It's only like you say it's fifteen thirteen minutes, plus credit right? Yeah. Thom Yorke, the album is anima. Let's do one more album before we take a break. This comes from the rapper, Freddie Gibbs. His latest project with mad lib is called bandanna. Not enough everyday like food. Another people. About him. Oh my. Upon the small, Freddie. All the voting. They gotta know real. Greek freak we did a good apprentice campus in off the with the decorated. No. Okay. Train alden. The, the frame snow on the. Thing. The money came the month. Cain paid the bills are paid house. The tweet should go on the hill are selling get free killed through a meat and meat. Steal. Wasn't this is Freddie Gibbs with mad lib? His new album is called bandanna and the song. We're listening to his called Yannis with Anderson pack on it and joining us to talk about this when for the first time ever NPR music, Bobby Carter. Twenty years, have you never been ever been on this show? Like FREDDY say real g's moving silence. Like janas. Freddie Gibbs, he's dropped a new record every year, either as a solo artist or collaborating with someone for like six years now since twenty thirteen in here is with mad lib, and I know you're really loving this one. Yeah. Fans of this project, they were we are surprised that this day is finally calm. Like you say FREDDY drops solo projects, he drops collaborations year after year. But the question is, when is the follow up to two thousand fourteen pin yada, has been a few setbacks, obviously, you know, Freddie was the -taining an Austrian jail in twenty sixteen on sexual assault charges. He was later acquitted, but he said in jail in Austria for four months. And so that was a big setback. And then there's the, the mad lips, which is mad lib moves on his time in his time, only he doesn't come out much. He doesn't move to an industry standard or industry. He works at his own pace. So it's just taken forever. Ever. But with finally here and it is well worth the wait he takes on a lot. And they songs you know, he takes on sort of the ravages of drug use the education system. Police violence and despite all the troubles in his own life. He considers himself like, really blessed? Yeah. It's so honest, and he comes to it from the street side. I mean, Gary Indiana is not the best place to grow up in depending on what side you're on. But he comes he comes from an honest place. He speaks for those people. You know what I mean? So it's a real honest thing and the collaboration between him mad live with the with the soulful dirty chops is just a marriage made in heaven. I mean he's talking about really gritty stuff and you put that over a mad lib beat. That's just unpolished in, in filthy. You can hear the record crackling. It just works. Yeah. That Madeleine production and you can just swim around in it, and it's not of any era. This is just something that he's never done before. You know he's from the. Coast. You know, you got Freddie, from from the mid west. It's an odd couple, but it is so magical in again. Like the fans are just so happy that this, this finally has some great guests on this album too. Right. Yeah. For sure. He pulled most deaf from under the rocky got black thaw. Anderson pack like I said he has a crazy song. Call Palmolive with push a t and killer, Mike. I mean, the features are just so on point, and Freddie as elevator his, his might gain for sure, because he holds his own with everybody, and quite frankly, he outshines, a few of them, Freddie. Gibbs is the artists working with mad lib on their latest project called bandanna. Thanks, bobby. Thank y'all. We still got a handful of new albums. We wanna play for this week's new music Friday, along with our lightning round of other notable releases. But first, we need to take a short break, and we'll be right back support for this podcast and the following message come from blue creators of the yeti microphone blue helps musicians podcasters and YouTubers tell their stories and build their audiences raise your voice, and get special. Pricing at blue designs dot com slash NPR. Support also comes from better help online counselling by licensed professional counselors specializing issues, including your precious stress and anxiety. Visit better help dot com slash songs to learn more and get ten percent off your first month. It's new music Friday for most considered. I'm Robyn Hilton here with an powers in Nashville. Stephen Thompson here in DC, and we're looking at the best albums out on June twenty eight we start the second half of our show off with the band runaway June and their new album blue roses. Let it go loot along the Comey. Always. You're not no. Because there's a. And head breeze. Giving us our weekly dose of country music this one comes from runaway June the albums called blue roses and the song. We're hearing his head over heels, Anna country trio from from your home there in Nashville and a new artist for me. Tell us what you're loving about this one. When I hear a country record that I think is going to appeal to people who don't live one hundred percents inside of country music. I get very excited Robin and runaway June. This trio, I just feel they have that spark that transcends the Jonah while it is still totally of the Andrea. It's three women Naomi cook animal Holland. Jennifer Wayne, they're all songwriters, and vocalists. They've been together for about four years, but this is their debut album. It will definitely remind some people of the Dixie chicks, not just in the sound but in the attitudes express you could hear on that song. You know it's very much about women's independence. And but also there's some. Very deep and poignant songs on this record is just the proverbial breath of fresh air. And if you like say, Chris Stapleton, I think you'll really love this record by runaway June. I was really knocked up this record. And I'm so glad you brought it. I wasn't familiar with. It is often hear new country music on country radio. Which means I need to find I have to come up with other ways to hear women's in countries. That's right. And, and you hear a song, like head over heels, which that little that little bit of word play in the in the title, I will confess the first time I heard it. I gasped the the word play on this record is on Roger Millar level. Terrific record runaway. June is the ban. Their new album is called blue roses out now on June. Twenty eighth along with the next record that I want to highlight it comes from the singer. Chris Staples singer-songwriter, dear to my heart. His new record is called holy moly. Who? Knows more. Finally, getting that. Noga. Next. I'm guessing. I'm guessing this is all we get Chris Staples. Then you just turn your diary into song. I guess this is all we get, you know, it sounds like he's being you know very depressive on the samba. I don't think he is on this record, actually, Chris. Staples is the singer, the album's. Holy moly. And the song is called halfway over obviously him reflecting on the possibility that his life has halfway over or less. But I actually think he's in a very beautiful point in his life on this record where he just sees life as this glorious miracle, and it's he's just full of gratitude in awe to be at this point in his life. I know he made this record very late at night, wasn't he on some kind of crazy? Eight PM to four AM recorded it in his garage in his neighbors were so loud during the day he couldn't during the stay up and and do it late at night. Yeah. You know, he he went through a lot in the years leading up to this. He was in this horrible bicycle accident that left him with tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills. His girlfriend broke up with him. He was battling depression. He was drinking too much. Just. Last year. He says he quit drinking. And he says that it has re sensitized him to life, being sober has put him back in touch with his creativity, and you can hear him writing with this clarity on that he's just bursting with love. Yeah. I think that fuels, a sense of healing in his songwriting. I mean his he had a record in twenty sixteen called golden age. It was about some of those, those same themes that was kind of, in the aftermath of that bicycle accident, some other health problems, and this is in the aftermath of his newfound sobriety. And so you get a sense that even as he's getting older. He's gaining so much perspective. And singing about it accordingly. I agree. You know, in that we were joking about that line. I'm guessing this is all we get. But right before that he says, nobody knows what happens next. It's almost like a Buddhist sense of accepting that life has changed. And I think that mood permeates this record. Chris Staples is the singer. His new album is called. Holy moly. Let's go next to the truly go. Record from daughter of swords, the album is called, Don breaker. Does. Live. The. Daughter of swords is the artists, the album is called, Don breaker. Don breaker, in the song is gem, such beautiful record invoice. Steven tell us who daughter swords is. And then we can get into why this made our shortlist this. We saw daughter of sorts is Alexandra saucer Manek of the group mountain. Man. Right. So mountain men. I came out in twenty ten with this lovely mostly cappella record called made the harbor and the three women in mountain, man, where Alex Andhra saucer, Monica, Molly lay and Amelia Meath and their voices blended really beautifully together that record came out and then they kind of drifted off into other things. This daughter of swords album is this fairy tender, fragile little jewel of record and gem is the single, and it's it really jumps out. Once you hit that, gorgeous, just blooming chorus. But at the same time, it's very fragile. It's got that kind of ticky tack little beat to it. And it gosh. It's just like somebody, presenting you with, like a handcrafted gift when she made this record. She was working on a flower farm, and this record. Sounds so much like, what someone working on a flower farm would make my gosh. Yeah. And that's a compliment really beautiful record from daughter of sorts called Don breaker. We have one more album. We wanna play for this week's new music Friday, but as always the other notable releases that we should mention starting with the ban the beef fifty twos. They have a thirtieth anniversary edition of cosmic thing coming out four Vance. The singer Vance has an album called from muscle shoals that sounds, exactly what you would expect it to sound like being called from muscle shoals, the band summer cannibals is back with an album called can't tell me. No. And the Appleseed cast has a really fantastic Ardy rock record called the fleeting light of impermanent s-. I'm Levin this new record by singer-songwriter Aaron Durant. She's from New Orleans or new ones produced by kit Malone from TV on the radio. Very beautiful. I think. Robin. You're gonna find that with this. No, I loved it too. Yeah. And Ingrid Michaelson has done an interesting thing with her new album, her ninth. She's releasing stranger songs. Songs inspired by the show stranger things. Well, I wanna throw one more recommendation and for artist who was just played on all songs considered outer spaces singer, from Baltimore CARA. Beth's SATA Lino, her new record is called gazing globe. You get little Fleetwood MAC vibes off this record. And I really love it. I've been rocking that one in the car for weeks now, the small glories a marvelous little duo from Winnipeg. The plays bluegrass kind of folk pop I find their music really infectious charming their new record is called cinnabon and the red. And finally the original cast recording from Oklahoma Oklahoma just got a revival on Broadway that one Tony award for for its lead. Actress those who've been fascinated by that kind of recapturing of Oklahoma should check it out all those albums out now on June twenty eighth along with the last one that we wanna feature. It comes from dizzy. Faye faye? The new album is called. No GMO. I called you. Three. Does. I this. And. The singer is dizzy Fe her new album is no G, M O. And this is the song alter in here to talk about this one is NPR music, Sydney Madden. Hey, sydney. Hey, robin. I have you told me about this artist? And I listen the first passes like I don't know. And then the more listen than the deeper, I got with it, it really got its claws in me. This is a mid week drop the mix called no GMO as you said. And it feels that way, you know, fresh squeezed organic bio, debatable Leif cycle, fostering, you know, which, as I said, this is how the music feels the songs they really flow very well into each other, and they still have a nice distinction about them, and they allow you. It's the type of music that does really sinks into the nooks and crannies of the habitat or like sinks into the folds of your brain, it really grows on you and she's very Representative of a new attitude about gender sexuality to. I mean very much queer non binary. Mhm her identity is very fluid and you hear that in the music as well. But my questions Sydney is what's happening in Minneapolis. Because I we've had Liz oh, and now dizzy face sums in the water something is definitely in the water or somebody's passing around some secret sauce because it's all working right now earlier this year, there was another artist name Dua, Sala, who dropped E P and dizzy Faye, actually shared a stage with Liz, oh, before it, seems, the community of artists in the fluidity and the exchange of ideas is so amazing right now it's becoming a hotbed for change making and I love what you said about her identity flowing into her music. And because I'm really proud that we're closing out pride month by featuring a body of work by queer woman of color, someone who's not binary. But I'm also pretty encouraged by the fact that to me feels like we're getting to a time where those things are not primary in your art form. They're becoming secondary. They're becoming you know the. The back layer of who you are. And it's not like we have a surplus of them, but it just feels a little bit more like the norm. And yeah, I think it's a benchmark of this generation for sure is dizzy Fay, in her new mix tape is called no. G. M O. Thanks so much, Sydney. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you so much. Stephen Cuban, that'll do it for this week's new music Friday. If you wanna hear full versions of the songs we featured and a whole lot of other new releases from the week checkout, NPR's, new music Friday playlist. You'll find it in both apple music and Spotify. You can also find it on our website, along with a list of everything that we discussed, just go to NPR dot org slash all songs. And for NPR music, I'm Robyn Hilton be well have a great weekend and treat yourself to lots of music.
#246 - Jana Kramer on Two Stories Shes Nervous About In New Book + Natalie Stovall on Joining Runaway June + New Music Friday
"Jarvis Masters has steadfastly maintained his innocence since he was sentenced to death almost thirty years of innocent people on death. Row Newly uncovered evidence posters. Those claims innocence believe they found that women. I would not been charged. You be the judge on dear governor. The podcast what a dagoes like innocent on death row. Listen to dear governor on the iheartradio APP on Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts episode to forty six. We do a lot of the bobby casts now on Fridays. We can also talk about new music and we'll do that but also on. Friday is my new release game. Show Super Easy Trivia up on my instagram. Just search Mr Bobby Jones go to my TV page which is the same thing as the feed but you can find there but this week Michael Ray country artist Ali Fedotowsky and her husband. She was on the bachelor become quite famous since then and the head. Coach of the Arkansas razorback basketball team muscleman are all plans super easy trivia. Brent our friend WHO's a PD and Baker spills playing to some listeners. Pretty COOL. I like that game so check it out. How New Music today? We'll start with this. We'll get into talking with Natalie stovall because she's now the newest member of runaway June we get into what that dynamic like party together one of their members leaves she fills in. But this is a real part of the band you know. How did it happen you know? What's the dynamic now? They played their first show together. Sort of we'll do that in a minimum. Also Janet Kramer who pound for pound is probably our best guest on the bobby guest. It's funny there are different. Great guests Jake Owen is my favorite great. I guess on the Radio Show There's always got it on the radio. Show he plays fun music. Great Music You. Never GonNA play. Always anemic same thing with Jan on this one right. Yeah she always comes into hot fire and hot coming with just a medium so they're coming up a new music. Let's go through. Some of the songs kept more shared his new album wild world and this fourth album. Here's a song called Fire and flame got to be frustrating for guys especially like who I got loves. Tour loves to play live more so than the average person who loves to play light like kept loves it live by got this new body of work and you can't really go out and play but that's super frustrating. It's a frustrating time anyway. Don't get me wrong for everyone. But especially for a guy. Like like and his fans are so diehard Old Dominion put out three previously unreleased songs today. Here's one of them on it. Dip Lowest put out a country record. It's called dip presents Thomas. Wesley Chapter One Snake. Oil Lot words there a lot here song called dance with me with Thomas. Rhett and young thug can be bad vinnie listening to this album. I did listen a couple of songs I think. Pretty good I like it. Here's another one of diplomats loans called hometown. It's got Zach Brown and Daniel Bradberry House. I don't have an opinion because I haven't really heard it. I probably won't unless it's just not in the music exploration stage right now and unless it's one of my favorite artists putting something out. Does it feel like a country record or does it feel like a record? The he just put country artists on that he put country artist on. Didn't feel country okay. Dolly Parton has a new song called when life is good again. Please fish good again. I'll be a big little town. Put out the radio version of their song. Wine beer whisky. What's that mean? The radio pretty much they shorten the show and change a little bit of the instrumentation. Okay so made it easier for radio station program directors to go. Okay Yeah we can play the right to the music pretty much pretty beat. Yeah more songs here before we get into the interviews. Cam has a new song called Redwood Tree but you know maybe one more Jillian Jacqueline who's one of my favorite artists has a song called. Wait for the light speed. Com Fan. I mean that's my tempo jam I love Jillions. She towards me for a long time. I just treat to be around such a good artist. Jillions new song call waiting for the light. These are some non country songs. I pull some of this to you have. There's a new wrapper you're into called rumor room. Maria are Mr Spells name. Yeah what's this guy about? He's like wears a mask and he put out like one video and everyone's like who is this dude but corona and he's putting out an album but there's a new song of it. Do you think it's somebody that we know. Who's hiding their face. No I think it's a totally different guy all right. Here's rumor. Is Mike Sky? Yeah is it you know. I wish it's called. I'm not over. You seem you now. I like singing too. I like sad route though but I don't hear Rafic. This is much billie. Joe Armstrong from Green Day. Put out a cover of is not manic Monday. He plays all the instruments and he recorded it himself at home. I didn't as a Song Green. They put this out. It'd be also. Yeah Yeah Travis Barker in West Khalifa together called drums drums switch. Six to sit up and Travis Barker has everybody wanted to work with him pretty much. Yeah he's doing a lot of the machine gun Kelly stuff right now. Post Malone Travis Barker do. I saw that they're hanging out a bunch. I think they're doing music together. Yeah I wonder what that Guy Brings. Obviously it's something we can't see right. He's a great drummer. The blink wanted drama but he must bring more to being a good drummer. Drummers I mean like people are hopping on records either with him or he's on their records yeah for is higher drummer. And it's not like blink. One of the two is still cool to people that are young. Yeah but he's always kind of stood out in themselves hip hop guys but even more so one more song here. These two windows from Allie Benjamin. It's his debut album and here's a song called. Oh my God kid. Imagine this guy I remember maybe a year and a half or two years ago it just popped in one of my new music lists. Yeah go in the bubble. Yeah that's what I heard it too. Yeah is a pretty cool kind of weird definitely distinct and he slowly been on the rise and now here on some of the hit stations here on the pop stations. The like the river here in town or Sirius Hits One. You hear them all over the place. That's all the new music out you know. I started watching. Dave where are you in Dave? I have like three episodes left. They're only eight. I think they're like ten or eleven other. Yeah pretty good. I like it a lot. Dave is little dicky the rapper but he plays himself and I'm only three or four ends so don't spoil anymore okay. But it's him trying to be a rapper and nobody respects them. And he's this goofy little Jewish kid just doing this thing until he actually starts rapping and the people like. Oh a guy. Just finished the episode where he's rapping on young thugs instagram. That's a good one. Yeah so and not on purpose like he was just like in the studio bringing them food or not going to get the money. Yeah or his his track. Yeah anyway that's what's up. Thank you guys. I'll be like this episode. There's new music for the week. Natalie stovall Janet Kramer both these interviews coming up in a second both good in their own way Appreciate you give us five stars or four Butts Masters. Five stars gives those five stars on on the rating system. Because you give us good ratings. Ready a comment. We go up. Yeah Yeah what about that? If you have one I'll do it for you. You Right now listening. If you had a podcast and you gotTa Myers you said. Hey if I enjoyed your podcast today I really could use going to apple podcasts. Iheartradio spotify wherever. You wrote a good review. I'll be like stop me. Somebody probably going away. And I'd be like no way. I'm GONNA do this. So check it out. Mike's podcast called movie. Mike's movie podcast. Just Search Mike your mic. Check out. There's bound to be an episode that you're white because they're all standalone episodes is. They're not and say this. In a very complementary way they're not tying timely they can last forever talking about the richest the fights onset. They're people who got an on all that stuff. Yeah all right. Thank you guys together. Quick break of play this and we'll come back with these interviews so how you spend your time in what you listen to is totally within your control. Your personal information on the other hand. That's another story because when you shop bank or Browse online your personal info gets out there and you can lose control of it exposing you to Cybercrime but you can get back a sense of control over how you protect yourself and your personal information because thankfully there's Norton three sixty with lifelock an all in one membership for your cyber safety. 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That's the question you have it like a brain doctor a little bit different than General Dr. Like yeah I know but you know baseball players probably go to arms and legs doctors more than normal people and I go to brain doctor. Occasionally you know. Listen pay everything will be fine. Everything will the earth spins the same way as it always has. It's not about me getting bad headache. Oh my God this is not just no. I'M NOT GETTING HEADACHES. Just crazy brain fog memory loss and forgetting people's names that. I know you're not forgetting CAITLIN. Are you know God? Hope not terrible. Stock that was suck. Details have been called the wrong name from this guy I dated. He kept calling me his ex girlfriend's name and think can we not one time well with one girlfriend a long time ago? Emma I sleep I would say another I know but not not was Kinda now while I was conscious. It doesn't matter that's worth no. I can't control that though yes you I. It was almost like you know what I felt like. I felt like the Freddie Krueger movies where they just wouldn't go to sleep because they didn't want to get attacked by Freddy Kruger and their dreams. So I would just stay up all night going if I don't Fall Asleep. I'll never say the other girlfriends name but there's the here's here's the thing that I would say like if Mike saying one of his ex's or whatever I did to clearly I was thinking about them. Yeah but maybe you're thinking of them in a way it's like I don't know sometimes. I see Green Dolphins and Purple Dinosaur's in crackers ten feet tall. Does that mean? I'm trying to bang a cracker. No one thousand percent no. It doesn't okay. Listen THERE'S A. There's a reason that I first of all I love you coming on to talk because you're just such a good guest but I did see where you are now selling your book your your pre orders and I was like well. This gives me a good reason to talk to John Again. So the book is called the good fight. Tell me about this book. Okay so yes. It's called the good fight. It's available for preorder It actually started adjust. I was writing a book and Long Story Short. That book got ripped up and Mike and I decided to write about together. A few years after that booklet tripped up so we. We thought that I needed this book of probably four years ago and I wanted to I can say I can hear my echoed honey. I'M GONNA get off my head on fast. Sorry I don't hear an echo but go ahead and it's better now I can still hear it. That's weird. Oh that's so weird. Do you hear the Echo. No Hey Mike. Do you hear an echo shears? An Echo in her ears. I don't hear neck. Oh me either keeps during the US okay. Are you on like a rotary phone with the cord plugs? The total can come up with a string in it. Anything no does restart go ahead. We're leaving now. This is what we do. We leave it all in anyway. So you wrote this. You had a book your writing. Initially you ripped it up you deleted it and then you decided to what you were going to do is book together. Yeah so once. We realized that you know because obviously we have our podcast wind down and it's been great. We've been sharing our story. Some of our crazy things that have happened sites But we threw all that. We've learned a lot of lessons for therapy. And so we started writing this book where basically each chapter starts with the fight Not every chapter but a lot of them how we resolved it so maybe One of the chapters is about communication so the fight in the beginning of that chapter is how we could have communicated better interesting concept. I like that. Yeah and what I like about it though is as written from both of our perspective so you see how. I saw the fight. Then you see how Mike saw the fight and how we both could have done better and differently and how we've learned to have better communication or how we you know we have better boundaries or just certain things that I think. Whether you're married single you know in a relationship or wherever you're adding life there's just ways that you can be a better person Again with communication or You know being a better team player stuff like that. You can preorder the book at Jonah and Mike Dot com or also Amazon. And here's the thing about. The pre orders is that they do matter because the the first week that the book comes out. When you're all your pre orders hit and first week happens you then get placement in stores based on that so if you're listening to this you think that be an interesting book. I'll probably get it when it comes out. If you're so inclined to help John Out if you preorder the book it will actually help her out. And it is annoying to have to go and tell people to preorder. But because I don't like buying stuff honestly I like to buy stuff like Emma House in two days Amazon prime. I like to read stuff I can get within an hour but it does help when you preorder a book. Are you nervous about this? Is there anything revealing in it that you're like? Oh boy when this hits it's definitely going to be something people want to talk about so there's two things One of the things remember when I saw you and I said something to you in January. Was it in the hallway here. Yeah when I was like. Hey where's tell me? If I'm out of line I was like. Hey where's I saw that? Mike's gone and you're like I can't talk about it right now and I was like all right just kept walking. I think I was like we're separated. That Yeah Yeah. So we talk about and kind of just What happened We were pretty private about it but now again we've learned that it's helpful for others when we share because we're not alone in the things that we've gone through so we share that but then I also call myself out When Mike was in Rehab. There's some things that I had to get honest about so it's hard but it's not fair for Mike to put himself all the way out there and me not do the same. I think that's fair. Mike just put a quote up on screen. It says we put things in there that we haven't shared before about stuff surrounding pregnancy with Jase and when I was on dancing with the stars but that into the SARS early That was when Mike and our separate and he was in Rehab. Okay got it got so you guys were together than when you dancing with the stars. I Y yeah he I got the call when he was in Rehab and I said you know what I'm doing it. I needed the distraction. And you know looking back. I wish that he would have been there in. The audience cheering me on. But it wouldn't have been real you know knowing everything that we know now So maybe there's an all stars bobby and we can go back. I would listen. No I'll say this. I loved doing that. Show I love the PEOP- I loved every part of it but I wouldn't. I wouldn't ever go back. I can't beat that I I'll never be on. Never encapsulate that moment again because everything is working for me. I figured out that I'd I just figured out the plan. I figured my strategy and now people can use strategy against me so I will never do it again if Berge leaves. I bet you I hosted. But I don't know that he should leave like he's he's such a great Host for that show if he ever decided he wanted to retire I would go back and host it but I would never go on and be a contest and again Erin Lapin Co host it with you and I think that will be great. Thousand Percents So I was reading this to shows that have been been binge watch during corona quarantined. Have you found that anybody has one tree hill or Friday night? Lights it to the point where they didn't really know you're in it or they only came across you because these shows one thousand percent and actually one of my friends at the neighbor. She had no idea and she goes. Oh my God I had no idea and it was Friday night lights. I said Yeah I was. I was in there for the second season but it is interesting to find new people that are watching the show and I'm King Dead Tinian. Defending Jacob are often okay so dead to me season two. I'm in that right now. Finished that last night I didn't. I don't even know what defending Jacob is is. Is that one of the good looking guys. One of the Chris's Chris Evans. So what's that about TV? His He's the district attorney and his son is on trial for murder of a classmate. It's so good it is really. Oh it's so good. The last episode comes out Will Friday so do I WANNA watch? I'm watching a right now on fx. Have you watched David all? Is that the white rapper. Lil Dicky Mike is so into little dickie. It's hilarious that quoting little dicky right now. Dave Davis good. Did you watch the Michael Jordan documentary? No like that. I didn't want that care. I I mean not something like you know we during the quarantine time we need to do our thing so he'll go upstairs and watch that and I'll re watch sex in the city. You know we need our separation to visit offensive to that. I haven't seen either one tree hill or Friday night lights a single episode of either one. No neither is not. Oh is that really sounds like my girlfriend. She does not listen to the show could could almost care less. I almost I liked that better because they know your girlfriend love. GonNa say La. I'm mean That you know she loves me for you not because of the personality that you are and I think that you know yes my new my music. But he didn't know anything else that I did so I kind of. I like it when people know me for me. I you deal with trolls always. Because here's what's happening with us. We had somebody that found caitlyn's personally been harassing crazy switching emails emailing her they create new instagram accounts. Daily to harass her Do you ever have dealt with somebody that? Yeah I mean. People leave mean comments all the time especially on our podcast comments. About how like? I'm such a the I t a can mike. You know as you know. He's he needs to leave and I'm terrible and it's just. It's so hard to read because I want to find myself and what I've been told I I want one hundred percent approval rate and I've I've recently found out that I'm never going to get that and it's hard to accept that. Yes she didn't sign up for that part of it. I guess she did being with me But these people create nude accounts with no followers. They don't create it just a harasser and then they deleted once she blocks them. They created another one so we actually reached out we have a like a forensic a digital forensic who's found actually the person but it's like do. I. I can go in now and be like. Hey slap on the wrist or what we for more of it to happen and then go all right. Here's your entire track record of harassment and now we throw you in jail or or you pay a bunch of money. What would you do honestly? I think people need to face the person and that's how I would then determine what their punishment would be because I think some people. It's so easy to just be a piece of crap behind the computer and say mean things but I want to physically be in front of you with probably someone like never myself. But can you say those words to me to my face right now and if they can and they're still mean and vicious and have no empathy whatsoever. Then yeah put the thing make him go away but if they have any remorse or sorry then you know maybe I would say okay. Just please be nice you. You're like you're hurting a real person. You have any plans to celebrate two million followers on instagram printing meanwhile I get more on followers and followers Sunday. I'm like whatever at Jana Kramer has seventy-one followers and hasn't posted since two thousand twelve. Have you ever tried to buy that from her? How many pictures did you have to go through to pick a butt-cover picture? Actually we did not want that book cover it. We fought our editor. I'm not because we like this other serious one. And our editors no pleased like. Trust me on this. I'm like yeah. We're like laughing and smiling and you know and she's like well. The book still has heartened. You guys still make jokes about yourselves. Own My laugh at yourself and you guys say a million times. We don't have to figure it out but she's like you you don't want it to be so serious and so now. I love it but in the very beginning I hated it. My last book cover. I tried to get my picture off the cover I was like. I don't want picture on it. I was like I don't WanNa see me people. Don't WanNa see me. I'm over me and I really. I put my foot down. But they have a bigger foot and they said we will put a picture and you can either be involved in the process and help us or we're going to just pick one of you and so yeah. I lost that battle. I know it was. Yeah it was a battle that now. We're we're so happy about it but we love it to you because the all yourself. Oh Yeah I mean at editor switch stuff up and go you should you should editor would do was go. Okay wrote this. This is not good. Delete but do more here. I had some guidance but I think that's what an editor does not totally and that's the same thing that we really didn't WanNa ghostwriter because I feel like with the books that we right. It's kind of like it'll they'll take away our personality in it. So that's the same thing editor with like you know. Cut this out at this. Maybe tell a story here and that was Sydney was so incredibly helpful. Well but look how you doing more. You got baby chicks now to like we just had to get rid of them because the HOA made us. They wouldn't let us have a coupe really down where you live. They wouldn't let us. They're like you can't have chickens or farm animals. I can live with down the road so we deliver them yesterday. Clip her new song might you? Let's play this because you are an are you paying right now for your own. Music Jenna to make it. Yeah well whoa no need to be sad about that. I mean I mean it's embarrassing. You know I I will say I was in my office right now and before we talk. I was cleaning and thought my ACM award. And I was like man I failed and I had like a kind of pity moment for myself but but did you tail or are you just creating a better comeback story. That's what it is but I'll never have a record deal again you know. I don't think that's why would you see all the time? I'm an old won't like washed up female singer again. I'm to sit radio comeback. Okay but I'm GonNa say this again. This doesn't even have to do with you. Okay I'm GonNa say something has nothing to do with you. I'm GonNa talk about not even female artists artists. In general. What we've seen is a trend. Go back and forth back and forth and country music over the last eight years which is a big enough sample size to go. There are always times and country music where they go young and Edge but then in country music. You also see those times. We're older artists. Come back like and forties fifties. Who just get started at that age and there's a big trend of those songs resonating stronger so I never count out art and it only takes one or two people to break open the whole Levy for someone like Sarah Evans just put out a record basically covers and I know a little bit. We're friends or anything and I was like. It's a pretty good record of surprise at how good it was but if one of those songs were to catch it doesn't example then it opens the door for anyone who is not twenty two but aside from that. I think you're still. I think you're still current and I think you just hit with the right song at the right time. A lot of things have to line up. But that's for every situation a lot of things lineup. I love that outlook for. I think it's more of just like I get embarrassed. Sometimes if I'm being totally honest yeah keeps. It keeps us a bit humble when we need. I mean I'm embarrassed every day why I have to bend over backward grind drag mine. Everything I I get is not through talent. It's not through anything other than me just sitting in the game working for a longer period than other people have to work So I mean I I hear you on that because it's like I'm always like okay like because of the situations in the hands that we get out. Okay we have to fight a little bit harder and we have to push really hard and we get the pre orders and we got you know we have to keep inventing because if not you don't be stop inventing you. You're you're done inside and yeah I wi agree and we know we have to hustle and for me. I think a lot of people just assume I like to hustle. I like to Hustle. GimMe some free stuff. Give me some free me. The the treat. I'll take a tree but nobody really knows for. He wants a hustle. No I don't WanNa Hustle. I want to sit down on my couch and have offers come to me like I just got my first ever my own. Tv show announced a couple days ago. I ever of my own. I've been on a bunch of shows but never had my own and there was like look at you talking about flight twenty years. I've been beaten on doors. I've been screaming begging a writing. Like look at you overnight success anyway there she has Janet Kramer. What did I miss has show on? I have a show that was announced at Disney up fronts Two days ago. That's called breaking bobby bones. There'll will be on NAT GEO and a bunch of countries including America. Obviously and yeah we start shooting in July awesome. God created a myself. Developed it with teamer. It just dropped at your doorstep. Then bobby just showed up in a package like here's a show no way to create a myself. Nobody I'd say I have faith in you. Thank you why. Everyone Checkout Janice Book. If you're thinking the you may want it in September and you have the heart and the no you do get that preorder if you can clip time sellers left you know and we really yeah. It'd be nice. Hey tell me about this song. Real quick and touchable. Yeah that's the one. It's a ten year old song. It was one of my favorite songs ever the label. You know they had their words and I still loved it so much. I never put it out because I was afraid that it was gonna get just the deep album cut and now I got to release as a single and it's it's for me. It's I don't want people ever settle in a relationship and I feel like a lot of times I've settled in the past and you there is a love that's so great out there. That's IT'S UNTOUCHABLE. GonNa break it. Nothing's GonNa break like nothing. It's not it's not gonNA bend is not GonNa Right. It's just GONNA be there. I just want people to believe in that Consistent with her message there should Jan always wonderful. Talk to you anytime. You have anything that you're doing. I'm happy to promote it. 'cause you're such a good guest. I love you bobby. I'm so pre back on. Gen head called me last night. Bush left me a voice memo and She was like hey. We just played our first show together as runaway. June with Natalie. It was so good. I didn't know you guys were playing your first show what what happened last night. They had this. Facebook live on the books forever. And it's so funny 'cause even two days ago they had told me we were just playing as it was like stationed in Alabama. It was like an Iheart facebook live. I guess And they had told me you know we're just doing one song. Just been on the books forever and then two days ago. They're like. Hey It's four songs and Natalie learn them all and we had a rehearsal yet And so we literally got together yesterday. Thirty minutes before and play through the songs and then went on the facebook. Live thing so out of the field. It was good. It was A lot for the first one you know but now I've got that under my belt so I feel better. It'll be nice when everything's automatic and I'm not thinking you know sound good together so thank God. I saw a picture this morning. We heard it. I want to read some of this. Press release here. I just Might put this in front of me. This is the press release from whenever you were announced. As the member of runaway June founding members Naomi Cook and Jennifer Wayne rebuild their new member on social media with a photo themselves stovall who was leader of her own ban. Natalie stovall in the drive Former voice contestant and towards the bobby bones the BBC music group trio that Hannah Mahala help found in two thousand fifteen. It's been revealed that the vocalist fiddle player. Songwriter is joining the group which also uncle abdominal Blah and then goes through more of your accolades at this point. Is everybody off the Natalie's just now in the group or what's happening right now. So when that press release came out yes I had made the decision to join like a month before that because Hannah had already started talking to them about leaving and when she left that's when they reached out to me and we all started having the conversation but It is funny. How those things you know people like Hannah just left the band and then all of a sudden replaced and it's like no no no that's what it looks like on social media but this is all been in the works for a very long time. Who called you first? The the first time you ever heard this might even be a thing who was on the phone. Jen Texted me and she sent me this really long tax and you know we've been friends for a long time but I hadn't talked to her in a while so when I saw the tax I thought. Oh that's weird. I read it and at that point. She was trying to just say. Hey maybe come out and play a couple of shows with us and who knows what it could turn into and then it was a couple days before I called her and we actually had a talk about it and even from those two day window. Their decision like Hannah's decision had finalized at that point and so the conversation changed even from her. I text when she reached out and so in that couple of days. Where you're going. I go play with them. I could you know play some shows hanging out with friends some money or were you already thinking Do they want me in the group? I was a mixture of all of the emotions because I knew what that meant like I needed. She wouldn't have said that if they weren't already pretty serious about it. And you know of course. It was a really sensitive subject to she was like. Just keep us between us because this is really a hard time. It was awful for the girls and I know what that's like to have a band member leaving and you're kind of panic mode at that point and so for me. I was a little in panic mode because I've been. I mean I've just been laser. Beam focused on a very specific path and a specific way of being able to continue in the music business and so I was very thrown. I was like wait. What can I be in a group like? What what would that be like? Because it's not. It's not like your band where we play shows but were you know. It's not the like main priority for me because you have a million things going on and so I knew this would have to become my main priority is I said yes to it and so that was why it was just kind of a tornado of confusion in my head and that in every other world that you've been you have been the lead vocalist. Yep Yep and that. That was the hardest thing I think for me to evaluate just because I was trying to be as honest with myself as possible because in this very strange time that we're all living. It became clear that I would need to make this decision without being able to sing with the girls and even try writing a song together or hang out even hang out in the same room. I mean I know I love Japan and we go way back but I've just met Naomi at shows on the road like we. We spent some time together. But not real not like. Oh we're in a band together and now we're sisters time. So that was you know but I will say that. As soon as I started having those conversations with the girls I started realizing that it was a lot more natural and that we were all on the same page and we were speaking the same musical language. And that's the most important part to me so kind of had to go gut which is weird to not like play with your new band before you join them forever and always was a question then if you would continue playing the fiddle or was it like if I'm going to be a nominal play the fiddle. No that was one of their most exciting parts of it. They were like and she's got gotta come play for. I mean that was in the initial Texas like. Please come sing and play. Settle with you know. And what do you tell your husband at that time? I actually I got the tax and I remember walking into the living room and I looked at James and I was like I think just got us to be in runaway jeered and his head tilted to the side and he looked at me and I was like Hannah's GonNa leave and I think they're acting me to be a part of this and we both just kind of sat in stock rally. He was like this is such a great opportunity and idea and that meant a lot to me because obviously he and I have been playing music together in a project together for fifteen years at this point so we knew that this would change a lot. in kind of the way that we've always built our own life on the road But it's also why it took me a long time to make the decision it wasn't it wasn't a no brainer. At first aid only became no brainer as we all really started talking about it and I had a lot of weird guilt and shame about that because it was like two thousand girls in this town that would cut my throat if they knew that I was taking time to make this decision and it wasn't just an immediate yet. 'cause it's an incredible opportunity. You know the the real value in this for you is that runaway. June is not such a known entity that people are blown away that one of the members has gone and this this is from me coming from the from the outside completely because in a way I'm close to all three of you and I know you separately and now as a group and I work in country music so I would say that unless you're just a die hard runaway June fan which is growing. But it's still in the early stages of it. You're not going to know that three members if your country music venue no the name which probably can't identify any any of members if they're walking down the street toward you and that's when you WanNa get in if you can do it like you're at the place for example Bon Scott of ACDC DIED. You hate that. He dined but Brian Johnson is the lead singer of ACDC now and he's the one that everybody knows. The Bond Scott version got him out of Australia. Got Him a hit. And then the Brian Johnson version. Not the lead singer. But that's the it has been done. Were person has changed and also been instrumental in these super success of a band. That was the right time for him. This this analogy just came to me proud of myself for it so that was a good man. I think it's a good place for you because you're just not going to have a ton of people going. Why are you still have the old runaway June Sir? Well and the timing of it even beyond that sends into the fact that runaway. June is coming off of their first album. And then they're they're just starting and keep doing this there and now. I can say we're starting to write for our second album and even creatively. It's such a a restart. Anyway you know and so what a perfect time for me to be able to come in and and be a part of that creative process which is important to me because you know there is this catalogue of material that we'll be singing that I wasn't a part of of helping create or make the decisions on but that's cool because that's the start and then now we get to take all the work that they've been doing and the work that I've done for all these years. Put it together and then move forward. You know an even bigger and better way. Yeah it's it's a fortunate situation for everybody. Handed want to be in the group anymore. The other girls did I know. And I'm not sure if you guys are saying this or if I just know from talking to them is that maybe they maybe you set it on my radio show but I know that they were considering going as a duo which would have made sense. By the way it wasn't it was never the runaway June three you. They could've easily been runaway June. With just those two. That doesn't that's not weird but that because it was you they were like well. This is a great addition. It's not it's a different edition but it's a great addition and so super pump for you. I was talking about last night with Caitlin. I'm just superpower for you. You're the you're the most talented most talented person that I know in many ways. The really hasn't had that real opportunity yet. And so I I love and you know I. We all talked offline to where it was. They were calling me forever does about you. You hit me up and we're like. Hey this happened. What do you think about them and But you know Jin gender was the first one to bring you into my radio show when she was a record record person. I know Jim introduced us to each other. Which is and some of those weird synchronicity to have they keep coming up and and it keeps feeling like. Oh my gosh. We have all made the right decision you know like kind of everything was leading at this point. It was cool to you. Know one of the because I had to kind of sit and really think and be honest with myself about the lead singer thing and about just being on stage and with this would look like 'cause. I don't know what it's like to be in this type of group but even being in your band helped me come to this decision because I'm the lead singer of your band and you graciously feature all of the people that are in your band and so I get to show off a lot in the show and that's really fun but people are there for you and it was cool because that was one of the things that James said to me. It was like well does that. Take away from the experience for you. That you're not the lead singer of the rating it is. I was like no. That's I have a bull last out on the road doing that and so that helped me internalize in a way that I can't live and experienced firsthand with the girl but it was like. Oh yeah no I get to perform thing. I get to create music. Which is all I've ever wanted to do. Well my heart. You're the lead singer you may not saying the most the good ones you saying the hardware and now the and here's the thing to when I'll make ourselves I I would never I would never do one of my job after you because you were so good. Because I didn't want to the exposition of you to me. Well I didn't like so I would do like you Eddie or and then back to me just to make sure people didn't see the difference right beside each other. So it's you. I mean really in that band and you know it is what it is but you and Brandon Roy. The most talented people that haven't got you're the real substance shot yet and for you. It's happening right now and just a testament that if you just stay in the game work hard with your talent and be good to people eventually. It's GonNa work out in some. You're going to get your shot eventually. You're going to get your call to the majors and I think you're such a testament to that and I hope that that's what you preach because there are so many young young artist period but young female artists. That are GonNa WanNa hear your story when once you guys blow up and become mega stars you know. Yeah I mean it is the for a while you know things there's been it's been harder the last couple of years and you know we were figuring out. I had just done a big college. I went back to my roots and did a big college booking showcase at the beginning of March. I mean and and booked all these shows and we've kind of doing my own little start and it was part of me going man and I. It's an idiot like I've I'm not giving up. Music is broken my heart so many times but I love it so much. I'M NOT GONNA give up on it and it's amazing how you know overnight. The opportunities can just completely change and I went from kind of really struggling and struggling. And that does such a crazy time of uncertainty to getting you know everything. Kinda just falling into place. It's it's really. It's really incredible that you worked really hard until you got lucky and those who didn't happen by now that one of those things happened by accident. You just work until you get your opportunity anyway. Is it annoying to you? And people go Natalie stovall a former contestant on the voice I try not to let it be it. I mean it's a part of my caffeine. Chapter of my story does it. That's not annoying to me. It's annoying when people are like Manson voice that we put you on the map and it's like cool. I mean worked by tail off before the voice and that's one of the reasons I did the voice and then you know but now it's it did. There are a lot of people that discovered me from doing that. Show so I am very thankful for that one to you all through was singing and playing where you slow enough in the moment that you could actually go holy crap. This is happening. Or were you so just dialed in a little bit nervous because it was the first time you're playing together? I think I lost you there. It happens a lot I get lost alive. So when you're comfortable in a situation you can slow down and actually enjoy it s economy. And she's GonNa go this in a second Nad L. E. Natalie I had natalie you go try again now and then you blink out again okay. Are you restart and call me back? Are you driving? Let's call you back. Yeah okay back because I got a great question was caller by all legal rolling even have a great she. We call her skull enough. I'm GONNA call her. Okay go ahead we go. You're hearing right now folks right by the way you can follow Natalie on Instagram at Natalie Stovall Sto there. They are awesome Okay so here's my question here. And here's my analogy when seacrest got sick and they said hey bobby you gonNA host. American idol's like three minutes before the show walked out there and a host of the show really wasn't that nervous 'cause I've been preparing so long. It was a big and I actually paused for a second. I was under the Big American idol. The holy crap this is like one of the biggest TV institutions of my life. And even though it's just for a second I was able to be slow enough in the moment to go pretty cool and I'm not able to do that a lot but this is pretty cool as I'm talking. I'm reading the PROMPTER ON TV live. But I'm still so comfortable that I was thinking as able to separate and go. Wow you're pretty crazy you're on not just national TV but you're underneath one of the biggest signs of all time now. That question is where you able to do that. Obviously a different level but as you were playing your first time with them you're like holy crap. I'm not playing as a member of runaway June. Or were you just so like oh boy. Let me get this right There was a little ping pong back and forth between the things Because I mean we. We haven't had because appointing we haven't been able to rehearse and said that's been a very tricky thing. 'cause there's all the facebook lives in the livestream that everybody's doing and so. I was a little bit like. Oh Gosh I hope. I don't miss any of the lyrics also realized that you know what it doesn't matter. This is my first time and we will. It will get there you know. It can't start out as the best but you know the kind of a good point. I wasn't nervous at all. I was just excited to finally get an play music again. You know The southern is your the southern weekend is your show on circle network and so before. I'm talking about the show. Let me describe the circle network is because I'm super involved over there too so the show that I do which we were doing which we're taping in called opry we would take all the performance from the week. Make a best of make an episode plate every week. That's on circle network. Now we're doing the opry live show which is on streaming and it goes on local affiliates analyst. Circle Network but the circle network was as of now going GONNA launch full out as of right now we were going to be on Apple TV on all these however your phone you get your phone you can watch. It's not anymore you can find it in certain cities. You can find certain ways. But Natalie has a show called the southern weekend. Are you still doing that? Show yes we were supposed to the we. We have season one and two done and we already had planned to start selling seasons three and four beginning of April. But obviously that's been put on hold until we can start telling me again but you know as soon as we can we'll get back to doing that season two. Yeah they have okay so what? Yeah and I don't know if every episode is aired but I know they're in the middle of airing season two. Now what's that show about is highlighting all of the best attractions and local places in Nashville and also country music artists and and people that are working here in music city but it also spreads out. I have another Co host. That does a lot of the other places around the south in addition to Nashville but my focus is national. Because we have so much here that we can focus on and then the best part for me is that I get to actually Japan with buddies. That are you know on the road with me and in cool places like Princeton. Hot Chicken or something. That's a national staple go to circle plus dot com and you can see if the circle is in your town of where it's playing in your city. By this time we'd really planned on the full show but like many things corona has Shutdown has anyone's that you know stumbled across the show in any way or anyone today or is that not happening yet Yeah actually the the very first time that I even posted about it. 'cause the network launched January first and I had been told that the my show wasn't gonNA air until mid-january but on January. You're I I wanted to make the announcement of like. Hey I'm doing the show. Look out for it. It's GonNa be fun and I immediately got text from in Iowa of their television saying I just saw you on the circle network. I didn't even know I had circle and so it was really cool because I didn't even think I was on area. I was already getting people texting me. Pictures of their television screen. Check it us. Circle PLUS DOT COM. Find out where circle network is whether you and where does with you all right well? I think we've pretty much said it all. I'm so excited for you. I remember when you you text me like. Can you talk and I was like well. I'm doing the radio show right now is how important is it like. Just call me when it's over and then everybody or isn't the bathroom or might use the bathroom and facetime you and you're like what do you think about me being a runaway June. And now it's like 'cause you already decided it but I was like That's actually quite perfect. And you're like well here we go. I mean that was a while ago but man. That is so cool. I'm your biggest fan. I'm your biggest Fan Natalie and I hope you know that I hope you really really. Maybe you're James Prior biggest but I'm up top five while your parents probably two and three. I'm probably like top seven for sure because I yes. Yes all right there. She is Natalie stovall at Natalie. Stovall INSTAGRAM also. Part of runaway. June runaway June official. Natalie go talk to you. I will see you soon rooting for you. As always talk to You. Roseanne Okay. Finite later some podcasts. 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#181 - Caroline Hobby how much money she made doing Amazing Race, get dropped from her record deal and how much weight shes gained being pregnant
"Hey, animal lovers. I'm Katie golden. I studied psychology never leash. Mary biology. And I host a comedy educational podcast called creature feature will delve into some of the most unbelievable animal and human behaviors on season, two of creature feature I'm joined by guests comedians. And scientists as we dive into the minds of some of the craziest creatures evolution has ever spun and see the world from their eight is every Wednesday. We'll discover some freaks of nature like the critter that cries blood in the aquatic transformer that eats zone brain as we explore the fantastic animal world will also look inside ourselves and learn what it means to be humans, and whether we're really that different from our hairier cousins. Listen to creature fusion, subscribe, it apple podcasts are on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. It's big week here in Nashville before we get into the podcast with Caroline hobby net. It is SIA may week where it's big festival for four days, four nights. So I this is Caroline. On great podcast and she's had quite the career in country music, and she liked myself. Very busy. All this week. Are you doing anything? Just show stuff. What's that mean we have remotes tomorrow, nothing out there now? I think I'd, I have a lot of TV stop done this week. And then seem t- awards. And I just got a note about my wardrobe and they're like, passion where that you may get in trouble of the shirt, while not going to say anything, about them. How do you know tell you? Yeah. Oh. Well, whatever. I don't even wanna mention it here, but yeah, it's a big week. And so we wanted to put on a good fun podcast with friend who also has done it all in, in music from being an artist to working on the record Saad to being on amazing race to she's married to an artist. It's a whole thing, and she has a podcast called get real with Caroline hobby. So we're about to get into that. Let me suggest though, that you check out. Oh man. I just created much almonds and water like, oh, we walked downstairs after the broadcast, did you right here? I drank a bunch of water had a bunch of elements that good burp. I was holding during a fight back the whole time. Surely that Endo net that out amplify it extended. Amy has a four things podcast up this week. Or if you're hearing, this you obviously know how to work a podcast. So let me encourage you to check that out if you're bored, and what of her four things she talks about this week? She has on Scotty, west all the guy who we bought a house for lost. Both legs. Yeah. He's talking about spotted bananas like is that a euphemism for Weiner, with actual have been? Get chemically ripened I will not eat a banana that has a bruise on it. We're not like a bruisers at like a Brown spot Brown spot. Yeah. In the same thing, like a bruise of it. Like not only need Brown spotted bananas. Oh, it makes it better. I don't think so. I like it a softer. Yeah. Beat up your banana before you eat it. There you could effect good for like smoothies. Okay. Well, I don't see the bruise, I would eat it. Okay. Do you know what else she has on the four things you? She talked about underarm detoxing, and then she has Kim Anderson on underarm detoxing. She's talking about the weird stuff sometimes and who's Kim Anderson, she's like a life coach. Okay. Well, Amy has a four things podcast. I think you may like it Amy's the best. So I think you'll like that. If he into sports, a sore losers have sports show Kelly Henderson. He's got some pretty cool, new episodes up so you can check out velvets edge. I know she has gone with Dirks do who one of our, oh, she had. I know she talked to joy Williams. Today that goes out. It's coming up. This weekend. I love joy Williams and joy him from the civil war. And she did a podcast with me and Kelly. I talked to her before, she talked her joy, she was like what's joy like and I was like, oh, she's the best. I wanted to be your best friend when she left. And then she was like, well, listen to yours. So I wouldn't have the same kind of podcast, so you're not gonna hear it'd be like the sequel. Yeah. This week, the velvets edge podcast. Kelly henderson. Am I forgetting anything? See, I think that's everything think that's it. Yeah. Caroline hobby is here. But we talked about a lot of the episodes in this podcast. Thank you all. If you're you wanna come on the road and watch the raging idiots. It's a half comedy. I showed you, the opening yet our new opening. No, I heard about it from Caitlyn. Okay. Yeah, the, the show, the show's way, different. It's not just playing music. It's comedy and kind of part musical little bit of stand up. And then, of course, all the songs you've known to love from the raging idiots s playing coup stick Chick-fil-A, and the new record mostly where we are comedy songs. But if you get chance to come out and you're in Denver or Louisville or. San antonio. They're still a few tickets left Austin's police sold out, but Saint Louis is sold out trying to think of places routes in Vegas or still tickets left. It's, it's we got pretty lucky that people care and towards doing really, well, but I encourage you to come out go to raging idiots dot com. If you like comedy, and it's clean and bring the kids if you want, I think I might like to Weiner jokes. But I, I use the word Weiner, Amy's husband came to the show and Black Sea, and he was like Mukai couple of Weiner jokes. That's what he told her to joke about Wayne or a couple of times, but it's not bad. All right, here we go episode one eighty one eighty one with Caroline hobby. Thank you. Here we go. I welcome to episode Juan Eighty-one with Caroline hobby. You are more pregnant this time than last time. I saw you bump, and I was just looking at you naked on instant ban. No pregnant pigs. Picture. My did see that all these Instagram, people post themselves, like swimsuits and lingerie and I've never been one of those people until I got pregnant, and I'm always like am I supposed to like the go back go by real fast? I'm only as told you this on the radio show, and I'm always a bit confused as to how I should feel about it. I think fine. It's just an observation of this pregnancy bump growing really. So I'm wearing granny panties. Those are more coverage than like most Oso was, yeah. I thought it was a swimsuit. Yeah. See, I mean it's more coverage than most. Simpson's go into a lot of places to take your clothes off and take pictures of your pregnancy, though. I will tell you what has close or hard to find. I can't find anything that fits how pregnant are you? Almost twenty seven weeks. So that would be I'm sorry, if I'm breathing lot on here because I can't catch my breath. That would be six almost six six and a half almost seven month. And so how does your pregnancy compared to the standard pregnancy? Are you smaller are you bigger than most people? Yeah, they did you do the research to see what you're supposed to be. Yes, I don't know. I had gained kinda ten pounds quickly. So I was really worried. I was like, oh, no. This could get out of control, but I'm at twenty three pounds right now which is. Yeah. I mean, it's fine, but I'm hoping to keep it under forty. I think if I keep it under forty that's kind of standard. They say like thirty five ish is good. But I've had some friends who've game like seventy in some who've gained like twenty five so I don't know. I just it's like heavy. It's so heavy carrying her out. So I'm just for the sake of my back, and if the girl it's a girl, and you heard do you have a name for her yet? Yes. But you haven't said yet, right? Got it. Do you want to say it now? Nope. Okay. Given you that opportunity right now? Thank you, by the way Caroline has a podcast called get real with Caroline hobby. And what would you say that podcast is about? I would say is about women, especially women who are married to artist. And but actually, I am straying from that. This latest one's Nicole galleon. And she is just an incredible singer songwriter, who just is joined your podcast. What is it called like network? Yeah. Yeah. We work together. Yeah. So she's in the fam-. She. Yeah. And she's written a bunch of massive songs. I think she's kind of it songwriter right now. Yeah. But not just the hit song right now. But she's so good that she's going to be one of them for a long, long time. Yeah. Here she is on your podcast. Go get real talking about being okay with failing came with failing. I just don't think people remember we, we remember what we fail at more than anybody. This. Somme that might look impressive. I guarantee the one with all the MRs and all the heartbreaks is so much longer. But the world isn't saying that, you know, she has written tequila, what bunch of songs, she has to Quila and she has. Labor automatic Kenny, this one right here, all the pretty girls. And she has the Keith urban song with Jillian Michaels and so just so many songs. And we her and I were together, and we were in Los Angeles, actually, we were even hoity toity. You're part of Los Angeles. We're in thinness. I love Venice. Yeah, this is kinda hippie though. It was kinda hippie kind of trendy her. And I were together, and we were at this event, and it was all Venice people. And it was for this podcast. We're doing everyone's so Los Angeles. And we're and David Arquette's with us from oh, is he your friend? Nobody was that night. It was super nice, and we're all hanging out in her and I are there against the wall, which aren't into wall. And we were talking about, like you're from Kansas, and I'm from Arkansas, where the least cool to people in this entire room because everybody was so cool, and so cool. Where where real? Yeah. No, that's true or not cool. Well, I mean, people who are cool. They really cool where they dislike well in that room that night, we definitely did not feel. You know what turned me onto your podcast was the one with Carolina? Brian look, Brian's wife, who I've become friends who has now too, because I've worked with Luke closer to an American idol. Yeah. She's awesome. She's a circle I'm doing a live podcast with hertzian. My are you what? Am I, I live podcast? And she's a wildcard. She the thing. I love about Carolina. Brian is she's studying she's like so beautiful, and you would think like, oh my gosh. She's Luke Bryan's wife. She's so pretty. She must be like untouchable. But she's the biggest prankster she's hilarious. She's so real. And honest, she's not afraid to talk about, like everything that's happened in their life, and be real about life, and I just really admire that this is her whenever you guys talking about Luke Bryan, and how she knew that Luke Bryan was the quote unquote, the one, I saw the way he treated me and other people, and I was like my heart is yours forever. You know, I don't know if he has, like a defining moment. But just when I saw like how. Suited him and his family and his mom, I was just like I'm sold signed. Sealed delivered. I'm yours. His was Caroline. When you when you let that fish go after you caught it. I knew when you released it. I knew we were going to be together forever. Then she you guys got serious. She opened up about their miscarriage. And what's sad, is that, you know, girls who have had one girls take your harder than a guy does because it's not really real that didn't know really how to comfort me. Yeah. Because you know, he just he didn't get it. But as girls when you go through it, and, and you lose it, you just there is a loss. There is a loss, and it sucks. And it hurts, and you're in her and your. Oh, it's it's awful physically. And so, and this isn't a whole podcast about your podcast, but I didn't mention and I brought up Thomas Rhett. He was in the other day and I played him a clip of his wife on your show that on your Instagram and he was so embarrassing lowered his head into his arm. So very so abyss. Let's see mad. No. Of course, not here is with Lauren Aitken's, Thomas shots, wife and Lauren was, like, okay. Thomas derby, to kiss her the first time he dared me to kiss him L. I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. And he was like, we just try just one time and hate it. Then it then we'll just leave it alone. I'll never been shown again. We don't even have to be friends anymore. We'll just drop it. I was like, no absolutely not. And so there are a lot of great episodes, and it's really well, well, thanks to you. Get behind it and spreading the word. Listen, if three a big ole monster. Awesome tree can fall in the woods. And if nobody hears that in no tree fell right? And I remember you coming over and I was like, hey, listen. You have a great podcast gonna do to make it better. But I can actually make people hear it. And then you can have a shot to prove if it's really worthy of their ears or not. And I think you have it's been great, don't you feel? It's been great awesome. And I really it's been awesome. Be partnered is creek would partnered with these, you're being partnered. You and I've just really it's been a great experience. And I've just it's re- being connected with you. And your show has made me so motivated to like, make it better and make sure great episodes because now it's like, okay we have a place to live. We have a little home now. We play them, not only in our show might, but we put them in, like national promos and stuff. Well, listen it wasn't good. We wouldn't. Okay. But your story's interesting in how you can get so close to a lot of these artists, and their wives is because you've kind of done it all in Nashville. Yeah. Because did you come to town to be an artist? Yeah. When when I was nineteen years old. And so you move here and what was your your nineteen year old dream? My nineteen year old dream was to be faith, Hiller Schneider twain. So you wanted to be a solo singer. Yeah. And so were you good at home? Now now I mean I really I'd sung at church and I wasn't show choir, but I wasn't like playing all the local gigs around town. I don't know why I always thought I wanted to be a singer, but I hadn't really done a ton of it when I was living at home. But I just like I'm moving national anonymous thing where you good in church, though and show choir. I mean I kinda thought I was, but did people say, oh, Carolyn. You're really good singer and mean it. Why didn't have like a lot of competition in Waco taxes. You know, like in my in my pool, it's not like anyone else's really doing it. So I think the fact that I was even doing it. People are like, whoa. You know, so you moved to Nashville and do you know anyone here? Oh, you. So you're like a lot of people. You just move your and have to kind of figure it out. Yeah, I moved here, I don't know anybody here and I had gone to Baylor for the first year of college, and I was going to just try to see if I could let go the regular out and just go to college and not pursue this. And then I got in my first year at Baylor, and I'm from Waco, and I was like, okay, I have to go to Nashville, like I just always knew ahead to go to Nashville. And so I transferred to Belmont, I didn't know anyone and I was a recluse. I was so nervous and afraid and scared and overwhelmed. And you got into Belmont and to do what the music business because I wanted to intern. So if you were in music business, you could get internships. And so I was like, if I can get internships. And maybe I could meet people, then maybe I could, like get into the music business because I have read that Julie Roberts who's saying breakdown here, back in the day, a loved her. She liked worked at the front desk at capital or something you're would worked at the front desk. Mary Tyler Moore records. So I was like. You can just get in one of these buildings. And maybe I can meet people and something can happen. You've had so many different little path is funny, when I even in my head I'm kind of tracking back through all the ways we've kinda cross pats because I met you in Austin when I moved to Austin for a little while and we will get there. We will get you move here and you're nineteen years old, and you go to Belmont, and do you end up graduating from you did. And so the whole time you're learning, what in school nothing really. I mean, music business in English, but school is never my priority playing any gigs at all. We singing writing a weekly gig every week at this place called judge means barbecue is across from twelve importer and I knew the owner and he was so nice when let me play every single week as I did like to our set and I was playing every week. And then after that, for a while that I met Jennifer, Wayne. And she is John Wayne's granddaughter. She's amazing. And we both runway June, by the way, does it right away? And we both were kind of shy at the time and we were like we should join forces and so kind of linked up and after that we were a duo, and then we ended up meeting tayla, who is Loretta Lynn's granddaughter and we became a trio, and we dug up somewhere that I was related to Daniel, Boone. So you searched hard enough hard to hard that all because I think they had they need to stick. They were naturally related. Yeah. We'll bought twenty three and me then you match that with ancestry shook it up. And yeah. And we'll see what came out was eleven generations prior cousin was a mailman with Daniel Boone perfect. So then you had a story because we were going to do a reality show because we're like oh, now that we have this heritage background. We could go ahead and get a reality show because we thought it would be a great selling point. Which, I mean, we almost you wanted to reality like you just in your mind or did someone approach you about that. We had. AA pitching us as a re agency pitching us as a trio with all its heritage. And they're going to like package it as a TV show in the name of the group was stealing angels rebel heroes. Okay. He'd better be dead from stealing angels. Land. So tell me that kind of the transition from that song's not intense at all. You guys coming together having this idea. So when did you start going, okay? We're gonna when did you not get the reality show? We got. We got all the way to the end of this process of TLC pilot. Yeah. We've three pilots. Just never got picked up never picked up. So, but did you sign a record deal in the middle of all this or afterward it, so in the middle of all this, we are like we're just going to stay trio, no matter what? And then we ended up signing a record deal with power early who do like today she ticks and stuff. And he kind of started a label for us called sky Bill, and then we ended up partnering with Sony, so stealing. Angels are trio and the first thing you put out was he better be dead. Or you go again. So when you guys first launched a jet low heat on your were you like, oh, I think we can do this is the big thing, people are really excited about us and we did a big radio tour. And we had tons of friends and radio. Like, we love everybody. It was great. But I just I don't know if our songs enacted can't imagine why they'd bashing so you have you better be dead in that how well does that one? Do that one. Got to think like forty eight. Okay. So it charted. Yeah. To be taught fifties considered charting. But most first singles don't do. Well, yeah, so you're going. All right. Let's here we go again. Let's regroup. And so then what happened, then which put out this paper heart? I remember paper heart. How'd that one do? I think like fifties. Okay. So you have to now that didn't work. Are you starting to go okra? And we're like based on an independent label which is also another. Oh, crap. Because you don't have a big push behind you and you don't have artists that you can leverage for you. Like it's not like they have Blake Shelton as well. And they're going, okay. Well, if you don't play them, we're gonna screw you over on Blake and Blake's, not gonna you know, there's a lot of leverage and going on with record labels. Okay. So that one doesn't do well and do you get a third shot though? Yeah. Then we know the navy I think we put up the song little blue sky for three seconds for three seconds. Here's a little blue sky. And what was your job in the band? That's me singing. We would switch singing. Let me hear this window. Let me hear this window. Mccalls Mizen imagine it in a church choir. All right. So that's all it doesn't do. Well, either it was over. So you have three songs that don't do. Well, how did they tell you that it's no longer going to be a thing. We had an investor and I think he got tired of investing, and it was after the third single it just kind of wasn't like going where they put a lot of money into us, and it was sort of like, well, we tried. And how does that conversation happen fast like really to a room? Meeting. How did they go? I don't know how when exactly I just know it was like, from one week to the next, we were, like on this massive radio tour for felt like three years, and then playing on these fairs and festivals gone all the time living on tour bus to like crickets, it happened so fast. So when that happens you go. Well, we've we're also going to split as a group or do you go? I think we should hang out, and see if we can get a deal and pursuing stealing angels. Well Taylor also had gotten pregnant tayla was the obviously not Jannine runway June, not maybe Taylor. Loretta Lynch, granddaughter. She had gotten pregnant, and hadn't really told us. And so we all this happen. She was like, oh, by the way, I'm pregnant. And I'm moving to Seattle because that's where she met her fiance, and they were going to Seattle they met, like two months, she was like on our way. So unless it was going to be a duo, there was no stealing angels anymore. Yeah. So Jenin I entered until like a panic attack. Okay. Your frigging out. Yeah. You don't have a job. Nope. So you think about Puna are trying solo thing. Now a duo thing we're going to do a thing named named no-name. We didn't have a name terrible noone knows him. We didn't have an animal. Because rival are going to do thing. Our agent called us and was like, what are y'all doing, and we're like, nothing panicking losing our minds and they're like, oh, great perfect. We have as opportunity for you ought to go to amazing grace, just in time, just in time that I'm meet you before. Oh, I had moved Austin, that's what happened. I had a breakdown after stealing angels ended Taylor moved to Seattle gin and I were still working this out, but I was like I was also dating. My now has been Michael hobby is in a thousand horses. Everybody's check out their new music. You're gonna love it Bobby excited. I haven't heard it was coming home is supposed to be exciting. Okay. And so we had broken up for two years. And when we broke up, I moved to Austin now was like, because my sister lives in Austin, she just had a little girl and I was like, I gotta get out of Nashville like my whole life has exploded. Your, I've got to get the hell out of this town. So I just moved to Austin and I was like, okay, I'm gonna hang on my sister. Gonna babysit my niece. Are we going to do for a job starting teaching music class? Oh, yeah. This little school called is called music together. So I was teaching all these little kids, what were you teaching them? I was teaching play with instruments. And we'd like sit in circles and sing little saw songs and run around. I mean, it was real cute. But I knew it was my forever. Life thing. It's so I saw you. I remember going up to the radio station, one day and I was was I still in Austin because I was actually trying to network at that time, too. I was like, maybe I can like figure out how to have a life and music and Austin. I was I just didn't know what I was doing. I was living in Austin. Yeah. Because you had y'all hadn't read moved yet, and I didn't know who you were didn't know that you were like this. You were and that show is not what, you know, it wasn't of the magnitude. That is now. Yeah, it was still pretty big. We were on a bunch of popping up oppositions, around the country, but was but I remember you sitting in the lobby. Yeah, I hadn't forgot who is going to be with my new somebody who knew someone at the station JT. Maybe like he was a program director cut event where you're trying to work on the air. I didn't know what I was trying to do is just trying to talk to anybody. I remember meeting you. Yeah. I don't know what do we do you? I don't know what it was about. I was just like what up. I didn't know you were a singer. And then that and then I don't remember. I don't know why that lasted with us. Like how we remember we met each other because it was just so in passing. Yeah. Maybe 'cause do we have mutual friends. We do now, mini yet don't know about then. I don't know. So I'm meet you in Austin. 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We want you and they came to you. You didn't go audition. So they were looking for something singers. Wow. The timing was really good. God has been on my side. So, okay. They say mazing grass, you engineer both free. We're wide open totally available. And then where do you go? We go to Bora, Bora. I know where does this show star or our we started in LA at the off the opposite, Tori? Observatory observatory. Yeah. And so do they pay you up front now? It's all based on your place where we she get why. Okay. I guess it's different when I did dance with stars. They paid you up front, mostly probably got a good paycheck. Uh-huh. Yeah. And you don't get a good paycheck with amazing race, unless it has what they pay you start. What did they pay you all all in? Did they tell you? You couldn't talk about this. No. I, I was. Days was one hundred and fifty to start God. And then you got rate and everybody got the same. There was no nobody's star. No. But then you got paid the longer you stayed in. Okay. And I won by the end of it is rolling 'cause it kept elevating. Dang said you walk like a cool mill. No, no. But it was a lot. Right. What's the white? So that show. Do you get paid based on week to week challenge the challenge? They saw just your place. Like when the show has wrapped up, what place did you finish it? So you get no money until the end pretty him though. They give you like to eat and stuff. Yeah. Okay. So at the end and you get Where'd you finish? We got fourth place, the first time in second place second time. So the first time we should have won. So fourth place. Does that make six figures if you win you win a million dollars? Okay by talking about that. I'm talking about or th place. Okay. So it goes like a million two. Twenty five thousand that second placement of dozen. It was that what it was. Yeah. And then from there, I don't even know because I mean it's like, but you finish fourth. Yes, we probably got like five thousand each. But I guess, because they're like taking all over the world and they're paying for all this stuff that if you add it all up. It'd probably be like spending a ton on a fair comparison though, because you could've been working job, and they're also making money off, you going to all these places anyway. Yeah. Fine. Did you have a good time? Great time was the was it when you look back to one of the greatest experiences, the first time you went up your life. I'd say so I look back to an as dopey as it was me doing that dancing show because I had people told me not to do it. Yeah. Way because they're a big contingency was oh, don't do dancing with the stars only losers dancing with the stars. I don't think that's true. Well, I called two people, one of them is one of my best friends in my best friend in any sort of creative work Charlemagne, the God, who does hip hop works for the breakfast club. And I was like, hey man, I wanna do it just because it'd be fun for me. And I'm over here just grinding away. And it's not always fun for me. I mean, I'm everywhere all the time. And he's like dude, like Michael stranded. Wendy williams. Did it? He's like you're either going up on that show you're going down, and you're going up. Yeah. So there's in so him having that talk with me and also my agent Rachel Adler. She was like, if you want to do it, you never do anything that you just want to do like you should do it. And who cares just and I did it and it was the hardest. But I loved it. You changed in that show like you're like happy. So, so, so happy all the time, not that you're not happy a little bit was performing. Because I was so tired, and it's one of those four you look back after a three hour and twenty minute movie, and it ends and has a great inning. You're like, wow, that was great. But like for two thirds of movie you're like, how long does stupid movie going to be because it ended so. Well, yeah. And because the experience looking was so good. Like I loved it. Yeah. And I'm also wasn't embarrassed to talk about afterward. You don't wanna talk about that name as me. I'll talk about it for two hours. I loved it. And so what I loved it. And you look back at that first season, are you like that was like premier time for us? Yeah. And tell me if you felt this going on into the stars because going on a maze. Ing race I it opened up in a way that it was just such a new world. And I was such a different group people because it brings together just all these different people, which I'm sure Dana in the star says, too, that it just like opened my mind up till like a toll new way of living to that. There's so many ways to live life. There's so many ways to be happy. There's so many ways to like do this thing that. Because it's so easy to get stuck in a rut, and think you have to go down one path. But I don't know. Did you feel that way did because one I never met a Mormon really until I dancing with the stars and the Mormon a lot of the answers are Mormon. And if I did, I don't even care what religion you always long as you're like a good person. Yeah. Be good animals and kids, where square I don't. But I actually spent time and I would ask them questions about the religion, I was just so interested in it. Did you find out that the same thing? I've always known that we're basically all taken different side roads to get to the same place. Totally. And so that's what I learned and, but I'd never actually been close with anyone of the Mormon faith, and never the time I did, like three Mormons in a row is crazy. The stars. Well, not one of those kind of everybody dates each other from the show, but I got a one out with a girl for a while, while I was doing into the stars and then like to add. I just had never even I, I don't even look for what religion people are. It's not in the first couple of things with me like we're good. We'll we'll square up later and see if we get along well, and you're like good person. We'll figure out that stuff later. Really? But that, that I'd never anybody who's Mormon 'cause I grew up in mountain pine, Arkansas. Yeah. So pretty down the middle all Baptists, or all Methodists, even not, even that many Catholics until I got to Texas. And it felt like Mike. Would you say that all want Mexican for Catholic? Yeah. Parents are actually yeah. Yeah, because it's Texas so that that was a big deal and a cool thing for me so that experience and also even like music and I have worked all the formats, but I'll give you an example. I just figured that most people use Spotify all the time because in Nashville. That's one of the nobody uses Spotify out there. Everybody uses apple music in even on that side of things. I was like, well, this is weird because I'll be like, hey, because I'm curious what people use every day, just because I wanna know people are doing so I can either be a head of it, or at least be caught up. Nobody you Spotify. Everybody was, like, no, everyone use apple music in LA. So it was kind of it was even they don't you Spotify, don't know. I don't know. Maybe. Because apple music didn't get into the country thing quick. Okay. And still they're just getting into it and Spotify got in quicker. So maybe because of that Spotify is gonna drip into Nashville a little quicker. But nobody use it. And I'm not sure my dance with, like people would come and guest on the show, and I always want to know what you're listening to. And how are you listening to it? And even what devices are you listening with I love technology, they on their phones best the time everybody all the time. Yeah. So, but it was that kind of stuff, it's funny you mention that because that even those little thing, but religion's a big thing, but even like the technology part of it, and then I lived out there for a while, and you traveled around to you is probably different because you would see different cultures. Even for for me, I just live in Los Angeles for how long did you see a ton of culture is in Los Angeles, ten years? I felt like three months three months. And so that was a different kind of ball game for us to. Yeah. So radio Shelvin there every is that was the hardest part. Yeah. Because it was so early because you have to do it on, like central time, every day, all the hours and then I would just go from work and just dance until the sleep time and go to work again. That's grueling. Oh if I would've known have been that hard. I would have still done it. But I wanted to play different. But yes, it changed me in that way. I just saw things in different ways and sub out of the country. We're so you started in Borbor. How'd you get there? I you just fly. But did you like run in L? Everyone is running all the time. So that steps true. You are running constantly, they're not like Autobody. Get over to your spots. We're gonna start you running in three to know. You just run always anytime that you're not sitting on an airplane in a cab you're running. It's like always running. And what about the photographer though? The camera guy they're running to. Yeah. The camera guys are in great shape, they have to be because they can't miss no ever fall. You're follow the cameras really that sucks ends funny. Yeah. And you have to stay within twenty five year camera guy. So like if they if you're like darting really fast and they're not with you. They'll like yell at you and you have your like slowdown. Did you have to be miked all the time all the time I had to be like every second? I was on. So I just shot. I just didn't talk no practice. I was not letting I was not letting them manipulate my words in any way whatsoever. So I said, not a word practice. I was only going to give them what I could S smart. And they will get so pissed at me because you're not saying anything you're right. I'll do it hall. I've. And so, but with you had to worry about that. Like, what are they gonna use an editing? Yes. And did they how did they edit you guys like what was your team? They added us to be kind of, like ditzy blondes, which was sort of how we played it because we wanted everyone to really like us. And also, we wanted to have fun. And we were always really nice, but we didn't want anyone to fill threatened of us. So we were friends with everybody and we've made friends like all the guys. And so they would help us sometimes unlike him to help you in. Yeah. We were a single too, so it was, it was kind of a fun time, because we're all seeing all those laws single people. The like a big orgy, bow. No time for that. Sign me up. That's still going. You're going, and you go Borbor. I yeah. I don't even know where that is. I mean it's some island. How do I get there? What's it near Kat? I'm really not good at maps din was then that person, do you guys always fly together or were they like just going? How do you get plane tickets? You go to the airport, and you have to like, you either go to travel agency, or you go to the airport, and you figure out on the board, which fights to take or you go talk to person the front desk, and then your, your camera guy pays for it. But then how does the camera guy get through security with that big old camera? They call them ahead of time and say now they just put them through the conveyor about those cameras forty thousand camera just shifted the conveyor belt. Okay. Do you have audio guy running with you, too? Yep. So you have a camera got and audio we've got running with you. That's four persons when you're traveling. Oh, okay. So you have to stay with them at all times. You are your you go Bora, Bora. I. Yeah. Oh, gosh, okay. In the middle of nowhere. That's crazy. In the middle of a civic Oshii like around. Nothing. Yeah. So like, if you're shooting off of California, like middle of California, down below like there's California and there's Australia, it's like right in the middle. While there's nothing there it's really pretty everyone should go. What did you do when you get to Bora, Bora skydived out of an airplane over the island. It was so amazing in did you win to bore Bora. Now. We just we just always stayed in the big middle of the pack. We never got a first place when we weren't like the dominating team that was like getting those first places we would always just try to hang in the middle. So where did you finish? What city? Okay. I season we finished in. Have the world's poorest memory? I should remember this where it is loss. What were the second season we finished in Vegas? I is in. We finished in. Oh my God. Is it in the states defense back in America DC? Okay. So finished in DC. And do you know what place you're going to be? And as you're about to finish. Do you know that others have already gone up? Well, we didn't I think we thought we still had a chance when we were in DC, and then we got out. No. We got out before we got out this right before the final episode. Do you have your phone with you? Now take you phones. Yeah. The whole time. So you finish fourth and you're like, well that was fun. We, we'll take our eighteen dollars that you gave us and slurpy, we'll go back to Nashville. So you come to Nashville, then now I got back to Austin you do. Yeah. Any plans move back to Nashville. Nope. And then I was so gin and our, like, okay, maybe not. We've been on TV. We get a little moment. I'm going with our duo. And so it was C R s week, which is country radio. Seven are we just finished amazing race? And all of country music radio was coming to town in Nashville in February. And so we're like wish we loved everybody in radio. So really, let's just go hang out to people, see if we can get something if save again, like stars something up. And so I flew into Nashville, and what Zerorez had a great time and I ended up seeing this guy who I had known for a long time, a songwriter, and he literally I saw him at the bridge bar, which is like Spar that everybody hangs out at Sierras and he walked crosser bar, and he was like crying, I have been looking for someone just like you. I have a job and I wanna hire, you know what you start next month. At a publishing company, man I'm really big into, like manifesting an NC like visions and stuff. And I had written down my goals that I wanted to creative. Interesting. Stimulating job. That use my people skills music knowledge. That's what I wanted artistry was over at though, this point kinda. Yeah. And I learned on amazing race that I could use my personality as a job. I always really liked being an artist but I hate it songwriting and I've really liked performing but I didn't. I don't know. I just I sing people would be like Caroline seeing. I wasn't one of those people wanted to sing. So I loved it, but it was sort of like the vehicle that got me here. And then I realized is whole other world things you can do because I didn't know being from waco's like either it'd be like an actor singer model as options and entertainment, you know. So you work with published company. Yeah, so I moved to Nashville. He's like can you start next month? And I'm like, Yup. I have nothing going on in my life. Again. So let me move back to Nashville and that goes for how long I was there for two years. And then I at that same. It was also published publishing company was also a record label. Instead, the head of the record label was, like, whoa, Caroline. You know, all these people in radio, and we need a regional. So will you be regional? And I was like absolutely not. I was like, there's no way except you were as I will not the original, it is too. Hard radio is the best, but they are show. No mercy with music. And I was like, there's no way I could go do it now not as an artist, you know, you kind of like can just be yourself and everyone will they were like you're not. But, like I always had a great relationship. So it was fun. But I was like being region on have to get people to play music. I'm going to ask him for stuff baller them. Drive him nuts, like, no way. So I was like, no I will not be regional. And he was like the president who I love skit Bishop. It was like, yes. Come on. You can do this. I was like, no, I will not the only way I will do is gin can do it with me. Jen Wayne, as like we have all the same regions, and we have to be a team. Like, okay, what's happened? That's when you and I cross paths again. Yeah, because I'm then moved to Nashville and you brought Natalie and still all she was great who in is great. And she's still plays with me all the time. So it was really great to have an NS another thing because I believed to Natalie, I was, like, okay, I can do this, because I didn't want to be one of those regionals he's trying to push something down someone's throat and they suck you know, because that happens sometimes I'm not gonna go around and do that. And like be that person. And so, I was like, okay, Natalie is great. I really believe in her gin and I can do this together. So okay, let's do it, even though is not is not in my comfort zone. You ever feel like everything in my gut is in a fight and my thought is just not on my side. I don't know if it's going to pass or feel this way forever. Even though I've tried everything for relief. 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Get inspired to start your own business, or just hear the story and hustle of every side hustler. Get motivated with side Hustler's. Listen and subscribe on the iheartradio app at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. So so far just to kind of walk through this you. We're in college college student, then you were an artist then you were a music teacher. Then you are reality star. Nah. Then you walk through the publishing company. Then you were doing record promotion and you're doing that. And then is that one amazing race calls back again. And they say we're doing a season about all-stars, but also, but you didn't win. You didn't finish the top thirty only. Get made it to the season finale or is the final season. Finale. Is this final episode? Sorry. Like absolutely. Why not? Yeah. Okay. So you go back again. And how do you do second place? We lost by four seconds. And did you see the people beat you? It was really it was really frustrating. I don't know if I told you all this on this show, the other day, but like we were in the lead, nobody thought we would be in the lead like gin and our in lead. We're inner taxicab speeding to the final challenge for, like, we got this, holy crab. We may win this whole thing like what in the world and then some of our best friend, let's have show Dave and Connor their like father daughter, father-son, cancer survivors are the greatest guys ever. They paid their cabdriver one hundred dollars to dislike speed past us. We even know you could do that. And so then they speed past us. They get to the clue box. Four seconds of forests and they drew clue and it was like the first time ever that does it ever happen lease for Jenin? I that there's like this stop clock. And it was because we were skydiving again where you had to, like, have thirty minute time where you from start like, when you drew your clue the time stopped to win that thirty minutes is up like you had to sit that whole thirty minutes out. So because they got to. They're the clue locks four seconds afforest their stop clock started. I, but I was in my airplane five minutes before Dave ready to jump. So I was like, technically I was ready. I and I got it on the first try. So we would have won, if we didn't have the south from second pay. You don't even thousands you go. Twelve. Five each. Yeah. So after taxes, you got about eight thousand dollars each you come back to Nashville. And then what then I'm kinda back in that same place. Where I've been before I'm, like, okay, I really don't love being a regional actually the record label shut down. So that kinda worked itself out because there's another independent one and it just same thing investor not really wanting to do it anymore. And then I was still doing plugging song plugging pitching to song that pitching songs to artists and managers in our people. And I loved it because I love taking meetings and meeting with everyone. But I was like this isn't my true love. And so, I was like, okay, what am I going to do? And after amazing race. I really fell in love with doing TV work and realizing that you can use your personality as a job, because I didn't really know that was even thing but I didn't know how to do that. What to do like I didn't have any skills other than I'd been boot camp for like, ten years of ceiling angels, getting interviews from the other side that I had like understood what I thought was a good interview and what I what didn't think it was a good interview. And so at that same time, Tony Brown. Who's a huge producer? It was like I really love you gin, and I want to record two songs on y'all just because I'd never think I've been recorded correctly. So I want to just go in and cut two songs, and he's like, George strait's producer, like he's like one of the biggest producers of all time. So we're like, okay. Yeah, sure. So we did that we recorded two songs at Tony Brown. And because of all of our connections through song plugging and everything else, we were really close with Vinny Brown. Who is running Roca VO Gianluca? He was the one of the main guys that broken bozo or like we like drove John crazy. And we're like John quits play these logs please lease. So we wouldn't play John, our music. And John was like, okay, this is really good, actually and. I think I'll get have something. So at that point, though, Jin really realized that she loved music, and wanted to do music, and pursue it all the way. And I realized that I didn't, and that even though I loved it and want and like was so grateful for these opportunities, I didn't wanna go out on the music road. I wanted to like, do more personality host driven stuff when I didn't know how to do it. And so she kind of moved forward, pursuing that relationship, John and then form ROY June and all that. And then I sort of was like, okay, well, I need to start something. So that's when I started my podcast. So I had heard you going to be a runway June at I, I was going to be, but then I'd just gin and I decided it was really amicable that, that was her love at not mine anymore. And so we just sort of decided to split ways at that put in our life. But I helped write some of their songs in the beginning because I was still writing songs. And before they like locked it all in. So it was it was great. We, we love each other so much. But our past just started going. Different ways. And we both realized that we were on the same. We didn't have the same passions anymore. Gin and I have a mutual, friend generals of tennis player. Yeah. She's a pro a pro tennis player. And I remember I was gonna Andy Roddick. And I was like, hey, and he was like, yeah. But her name was John Wayne back then. Can cool ill? Yeah, it was. He was like, that's the same. He was that good. So it's then you started the podcast. And how long did you do the podcast? When did you start broadcast? This is three years in April while he did it for three years. How lucky you grinding away? I was probably one of the first ones to start it like in the beginning. You got we're kind of at the same time. Listen. I don't know. I mean, we've had ten different versions of something heavily mean this one's hung longer, and we've put time in real time and effort into it, but I didn't know what I was doing started pike what it was. Yeah. That's that's about right. Find your place. Life truly. You don't know what you're doing. It clearly story bounced bounced bounced and you've kind of figured out now what you like to do. And so then you start the podcast. And I remember because we had known each other through so many different ways anyway. And Eddie came in with that Carolina Brian podcast. And he was like you ever Janabi pond cap, I guess, Jan hobbies podcast. Yeah. Carolina. Have you heard? That's, that's what you got sit there. Geno hobby joint. He's like, have you heard Carolina podcast? And I was like, I haven't, and but I think some of the stuff that you were doing over at Cumulus. And you were doing like some, some digital suffer them. And I was like, no, what up. And he's like this. It's so good. And so, I was like, well, let me check it out. So then Mike and talking. And that's when I called wait. That's not true. You text me. I we were about to call the weirdest thing we're about to call like the next day. Yeah. And all I, I kid you not gonna had a long conversation. And to me, it's not even about how good it is. It's about how often the person shows up to work, and we could just look and see all the episode you were doing. And then you kind of found your place and finding these artists wives. And I think even then you're finding your place to just doing really strong, independent women with the voice, and I was like, man. That's and then you hit me and I was like dude, we don't have to go get her. Like this is just this is gonna work that's out there that told you that right? I don't know. I thought it was like a Freudian slip. You called me? But as like, I know, I called you all you text me one morning. But we were already talking about it. Because Eddie had brought in the podcast before that. And we were like what about? Yeah. So, and then now look at you you're flying look at you. You know you have you have should advertisers now. Right. Which takes forever some shows forever like with you. Well, you have enough listens. Now where even if you did it. And we if it's time for people that because it takes a good amount of downloads each month to get an advertiser by in okay, because why would they want to buy one that gets a thousand downloads? Yeah. I'm going to spend any, you know, right? But I mean you grew quick, it really fast because I told you my goals when I came here, I was like, okay, so I'm like right here. I don't mean. What did I tell you and it grew fast? What did I tell you, not gonna go fast? When I said, I believe in you. Yeah. I mean drew really fast. Like I was very 'cause like I made this vision board for the beginning of the year. Boy. Artie already reached the goals that the number of listens. I was hoping to get per episode four the end of this year. So my great this really could exceed all my ex. By the way, TV shocked me doesn't mean actually on TV. It means any platform at the visual platform, I think can actually be a TV show that does. Well, I mean listen. I think you're fantastic. I think even create that, thank you for believing in it that really means a lot. Well, so here you are you're about to have a baby, and your husband did put out new music. Yes. But they've called they decided to record ill too, which is great. He's kind of like me he'd been on a journey. They're, they're gonna be on their third major record elk signing now. Now, I guess it's out 'cause they've talked about Elektra and Warner. It's with Dave Cobb to their producer, so they have a real deal. Yeah. Is it their major one I'm like who has three major labels and their first Interscope, and then they were at big machine. But Interscope not really a country label. They were kind of rock back then. Oh, got it. Uh-huh. And then Interscope drop. They're always rock country because Michaels cousins. I don't know if you know this other black crows. Yeah. Which, which which ones both of them the brothers got it. And so he grew up like loving the black Crowes and so it's always been rock, but is in southern, and so they kinda were like, but I mean it just straddles that line of country rock and so they went rock in the first one and then Interscope dropped forty label forty acts in one day. And so they're like, okay, well, so then they just started like keep chipping away and they found this, like cool groove with country rock and it's been great. It's been a journey. I mean that's the thing with, like, he and I. Is you just kind of learned to embrace a journey because it's like if you get too hung up on like this vision of how you think your roads gonna go, you'll probably get pretty disappointed because it's just a rocky wrote. You guys keep trusting and believing in yourself. Black rose lead singer is Chris Robinson, Chris Robinson. That's right. And we're at Trump and since his brother, which is also a fun fact, rich and his wife were Nashville for like, three months. And they just lived with us in their house of their to goods. It was a blast was pregnant. I say this is so weird like this is such a random life, but it's so normal, because everyone's so normal. But like I like my Waco, self would have never thought that would just here. I am just bothering living with the black Crowes. So are you enjoying being pregnant, or is it awful? I love being pregnant the first trimester was awful. And I had a lot of things I eighty because we did have a miscarriage and some trouble getting pregnant. And so I was like very very, very nervous. The whole first trimester that, like, are just gonna lose the baby that wasn't a steak or something wrong with it. And so once I got through that it was great. Second trimester has been awesome. Feel good. I haven't giant bumps it's like yes, I'm pregnant. She's kicking around all the time, which is really amazing. And I'm just very thankful 'cause I know how lucky I am to be pregnant. It's like it's now that I'm in my thirties, and I have so many friends who are women. It's not easy to get pregnant, and it's a very emotional journey. So I'm really just grateful every day. Are you a long way just grown up so fast with thirty six July? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, mike. She asked me, she was like, do you think Ben Amy's husband would do you ain't told me he would do it? Good luck. Thank you, Amy together. But you shot that down. Yeah. You don't want that aiming override every question. No. Yeah. I don't think so because she has a big personality. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Amy, Amy overrides me and all the interviews, mostly because I let her she's superstar, but y'all are really good balance. I have to say, oh, she's the greatest thing to ever happen to me. Yeah. Professionally, and even because I don't have a girlfriend even on that, like having a sane Email in my life. A constant sane sane is debatable anyone. But yeah, she's been. She's the best thing that ever happened to me, my best friend for sure. Like if I was needed a kidney. But yeah, yeah. She. But Ben good luck. He said he would do it because I do think it's a good idea to do a male perspective of women who are in the industry, and the guys who aren't I think that will be interesting. I think it'd be lovely. I'd love to have him on. I don't know what he's going to say and live epic. We landed a plane on a river. He won't talk about it. Well, not yet that's, that's I would love to get. I'll play the whole thing is special on our show. If you put because I know been, but I know him it's I'll give you an example of who's an artist that I would use Dirks. I'm close to darks and there are certain things I know I wouldn't ask them that if I wasn't close to him, I would ask them because I would not know the answer. I don't mean in a bad way. But even like there's you become friends with someone and, you know all the things around and so you have to handle someone you know, really, well oftentimes, more so than someone you don't. Yeah. Because people you don't they know you don't know you're just asking 'cause you're curious. But if you know. Hotspots or whatever. Yeah. And you go right for it. If you go for someone talked about, they know you don't know they're like, oh, they had no idea, right? Perhaps what's no, no? I used to three or four years ago at this point, though. There's only about one person that interviewed better than me. And I know people Howard Stern. I didn't you're going to say that, but he goes for he he's not scared to, like, ask anything all the time, hot spots. Yeah. But he'll he won't bring them in and go right to it. Yeah. Poke them right in their bowl with a question he used to. And I used to headline chase not at all. I've found that get interested people when they come in is much more valuable to me than headline hunting, because multiple, just give me something it's turned into the point now where I think people coming in, they want to do a good job more so now than being like oh, I'm going to be interviewed. Right. And so a lot of people will come in with, with, really fantastic other things to say or like we should work up, this co performance, we've never done before on the show. That's where the switch is going to happen for me. Yeah. But no, I don't have to. I don't go to hospitals. I don't have to just am researched and talked to people like humans I get curious about odd things I was like oh, how about that? I'm curious what are your goals now that you've done so many things? I mean I like to have talk show. Talk show. I like to have a television talk show. Okay. But I don't wanna late night that same formula talk show. You know, I've deal with ABC right now for another was, if I get brought back to back, I'll make edge. Yeah. I, I love the people that I worked with an ABC, the hours brutal at times on idol where I would go for fourteen hours or so. That's a long day in the traveling back and forth when I was a dancer was hers. I lived there. Yeah. That was a whole different. That was a dif- different difficulty right going. Sometimes I would go there and back at same day. Ooh to LA. Oh, wow. That's eight hours of traveling in an airplane when you're getting dehydrated. Well, there are people with much worse jobs in nut saying, it's the worst thing ever. But it was just a different though. Yeah, I was exhausted when it was over. But yeah I wanna do that. And there's we have scripted show. We're working on ABC that I've been writing, and we'll see how it goes most shows, don't, don't get picked up but ABC gives a bunch of money to make one not yours. You'll get picked up. We'll see. I mean I'm in, I'm the lead actor too, so. I'm not saying anything what it'd be like, in the same kind of families like third rock from the third rock from the sun. In nineteen Ninety-seven sitcoms with John Lithgow. Yeah. Like a friends that thing. I'm not going to say any more about scripted. It's scripted. It's scripted. Oh, maybe like a kurban doozy's the honeymooners. We went to visit. So I think that for me, I've been offered a lot of pretty cool shows that said, no to in which could be a mistake, but I'm always I just wanna hold out for something. I really think is cool more so than something I think's pretty cooling. So there's one show that I had to turn down that I really thought would be fun. It just didn't time out for me right there. Nashville squares, which is like Hollywood squares, and they're doing they tape it in like a month or so. And they asked me to host that like four or five months ago, and I had to say no, because it was like the same time as idle or something they did correspond to bit. Correspond. They did a bit but I could have done it. But there was another couple of things on the backside. So I'd say no. And I thought that'd be a fun show to do. I love Hollywood squares. So it's been cool to be able to turn things down to that's gone ously. Yeah, because I'm not begging for everything all 'cause I begged until, like two years ago. I begged for everything. I'll go Los Angeles, engine beg to get meetings, a call people. That's a ham. It'll be in town, if anything falls through, please, let me come into, like I did that for five years, send my own money flying back and forth, just begging for meetings out even for auditions just meetings that would get me into rooms. That's funny. How quickly you become an overnight success. Fast though, like it takes forever. Maybe. But then what happens you hit your stride, and I feel like it snowballs? Well, one it's like with anything else when one person believes in you other people go. What am I missing? Why, why, why should I be believing in them? So it just takes that one person. It's about fifteen years to be an overnight success. And so I'm not I don't feel like I'm a success. But on that side Epsom TV stuff that I want to do the radio shows just continues to oddly get bigger. Yeah. Why do you think that is? What do you think? It is that people love so much about the show. Couple things. Okay. Let well one. We don't sound like the other radio shows is. We're not. We would never good enough early on to do be good at that. I wasn't I couldn't do the big voice, I would have been a DJ DJ. And if you're just interesting songs now near DJ in the mid days after and you're done, you have a couple of years left and it's over thank checkout. Good night. I would have been that if I could have. So I just wasn't good enough and have enough voice. So I was like, well, guess I should he myself, try to be me and be really vulnerable on the air and not being barest. And I think people have just connected to an I'm polar am either super insecure like super insecure or super era Ghent, and I don't have an odd about. Oh, everything. Now, my love life, that I'm going to be, you know, back living not having three meals a day, all of that. You don't that doesn't leave you because I that, that's just, that's always who I'm going to be, I'm wired. I have a nice place. Now. I got I got a Franken pool and I feel guilty about having a poll. What makes you feel airgun? Well, I know I'm really good at some things, and I'm not afraid to say that either. I think that's great. Yeah. But some people comes off as arrogance, so I don't really don't have a middle. Okay. It's like I'm either super insecure or I just know I'm really good at it. What, what would you say? Your middle is a win. Are you in your middle? I don't I try not to stand places that are my middle. I like to say a places where I'm really bad, and I can grow to be played with. I'm really good. You're never discontent. Oh, no, no. I don't I wish I'd have to go back to go back to therapy. How do you find peace? I could go to sleep really? And I have trouble sleeping. But that's the only time I'm not going hundred miles an hour long for peace. Yes. Along for a partner right now. Do you. But do you think you have time for a partner? Are they got yet? I I've made a conscious effort to allow time to start looking for a partner. Okay. You're going to prioritize absolutely have already prioritized dating a bit. Okay. That's great wanting someone forever. Or is it just like you're a seasonal dater like you want someone for a season? Or you really think if they're. You ready to go the distance? I'm ready to start investing in long-term innovators out. It's a stealing angels. And I gotta move on. Yeah. He better be dead, but I'm not jumping it with somebody now. My thirty nine I'm probably in part of my life. I'm like one hundred year old. I got a lot of maturity, but some but in someone like a thirteen year old like in my because I just never was a relationship. I was like I had to work, work, work, work, work, work. I need to have two months. So when I lose my job, I can pay my electric Bill for two months. Do you think you're ever going to get over that and know that you're always going to have a job? I will never get over it. But I now understand that it's a thing, and I think going to therapy has allowed me to look back at it and go went to therapy forever. I just stopped when I started with stars because I didn't have time anymore. How did you decide to therapy? It was on my insurance. When I was twenty six twenty seven I was like therapy. So you've always gone since you've been twenty six twenty. Yeah. Late mid to late twenties, and it was like therapy who'd in Arkansas yoga therapy when you're broke, you know. Go to therapy you trying to afford hamburger helper. Are you trying to get their therapy or money is covered it in insurance as a ten dollar Kobe? And so, I started to go, and I was like, oh, here's somebody who doesn't have a vested interest in me because now even feel like everybody wants something what have what have been the biggest things that you've learned from therapy to that it's okay that you're not all together in one piece because nobody and you're not broken because if everyone is broken the nobody's broken because we're all broken. And if we're all broken, aren't we all just different puzzles more than we are people where like there were some people who weren't broken like did you have people on? I did think that until I think a. Again, this is gonna sound a little bit arrogant. Until I whatever this notoriety slash fame, is an I used to think when I would see all these super famous people and be like all they got their crap together. Right. Once I kinda crossed the threshold of okay. I have a little bit of notoriety now. I may be worse than I was before. And I would start to see some of people that have become my friends that were famous and go. Oh, yeah. They're messed up to. And then I would just get to see the other side of it and go. Lifted ause you went behind the curtain. So. Yeah. And then I realized nobody's actually. No. Nobody is put together. And if everyone's broken the nobody's broken, we're all just different. Was that, like a freedom feeling for you? It allowed me to look at my issues and go, okay. I can step back and see that. It's an issue and I can better handle it because I'm never gonna handle right because there's not a right. And sometimes I had a friend with my, my friend. Nikki Glaser was a comedian. And she, she just did a special Netflix special. She was like a no I'm gonna break down like five times. That's great. You know, you're going to break down five times when you when you break down time one two, three four and five go. Oh, I knew this was coming. I'm not absolutely nuts. I can prepare for what I am. How I'm wired, so you should be okay with that. So when you do break down don't think your frigging nuts nephew doing nine times, you probably need to pull somebody in. But if you know what you're prone to do is break down a few times, that's okay, you can actually live within it because this is you. And this is how you're wired. And so when I. Wanted to go, okay. These are my issues. I wouldn't even call them fault so much, then I like when I just said, I know I'm always going to be the person that goes, I wonder if I'll be able to Ford, you know, to pay the mortgage on my house, or but I can step back ago. That is ridiculous at this point now that it's like it's a one of your false lies that you've told yourself can go. That's ridiculous. Yeah. And so even though I feel that way still I can go back and see it and kinda talk to it and deal take it down twenty-seven percent. That's great. So that's what they're happy did for me. That's wonderful. And I had a voice that she didn't give crappo Chinga crap. Let me just give just a unsolicited biased opinion about what it was also an opinion, but therapy was great for me, and even with girls. I'll be like, you know, she'd be like, hey, why don't you just do this or do that? So it was good. Yeah. You know what I have learned that because I sort of had the same thing like I used to think all these people were on pedestals and like some people had it really figured out, and I struggle with a lot of self worth issues. The. The four I kinda I did a lot of therapy, also. I have realized that nobody cares about me, like I used to think everyone was like sitting here, analyzing my life and taking this big long inventory, and I'd walk into a room and they'd be like, oh my God. Caroline. But, like really no one even cares. So now I have just decided that I know out good energy. I know I want the best for other people. If I have made a mistake, I'm so sorry, but it was totally unintentional. And if you like talk to me about it. I will I absolutely Klay. My part, I'll say, I'm sorry. I just have like a student. Now, I just walk into him and Mike. I assume the best about myself and everyone else, and I always try to do that, because before I would walk in. I just thought everyone because I kind of Nicole said the podcast with her. She was like, we keep a list of our failures. You know, like I know all the things that I feel like I suck at and then it like people would think I was the crappy person for, but no one else, even like knows that or cares. And because they're so wrapped up in themselves. Yeah. In my. My last book, I wrote all chapter on that where and I started it with I went to a yoga class and I knew everyone was looking at me because I sucked I never been to hot yoga class. And I knew that I was so bad. I was going to be on the cover of yoga illustrated is the worst Yogi ever. And I even have my glasses on the first time in in you don't wear your glasses 'cause they fog up. I did everything wrong, and I wasn't ever going to go back. They're going to tell everybody it was never going to go back again viral. Then I realized that a three pack and I was like, oh, I cannot those to go to waste and now back and I was a little better, the second time by the third time. I realized there were also the people that never been before. And they suck it. I didn't even look at them 'cause you're so right. So I was trying to do my deal. And so I wrote about that kind of that same road that, but I let it with that analogy was like nobody's watching you do yoga cares about you. Don downward dog now do it until you get it. Right. And, and if anybody's watching who cares anyway, who cares? And also another thing I've learned from getting to do podcasts and interviews. Kinda how you're talking people have so many of their own issues going on in, like you can like see someone I might be like, God, that person sort of an asshole, but really, they can have so many internal things going on, like big things that aren't even career-wise like life stuff. And that just I have realized every single person I've ever talked to on an end up level has something going on that they are thinking about constantly, and they just might be in their own world, because some sort of thing is happening with. Them right now. You never know what someone else going through or has been through or about to hit. Right. And it's always something. Yeah. It's a it's a whole thing. You've done all that work. And like you've, you're aware of all, that for yourself to just for peace of mind. You level twos. Aware level three's, actually, like, fixing it. But I yeah. I would like to have somebody. Yeah. Just let not your making space for it. I'm sure he will. But don't be though. Sure. Well, don't have that attitude. Don't be so sure you're cursing. It already can't you can't do that. You had to go on with a good open mind. I did deny deny message about don't say a girl. Yeah. So how's it going? We'll terrible. Oh, no really well, not terrible. But I like hit her up and then she hit me back. And then I was like, there's with me it's like no, that's not take around. I was hey, why don't we get together with watch something? I'll be, and then gone really was like, well, I'm a number. I don't care the Algo. I've no shame anymore. I will send Instagram messages to the biggest celebrity or just random person, just like, hey, what up? Nine times out of ten I not they don't hit you back. But that one time when they think you're Bobby flay, because you have a blue checkmark and your Bobby, sometimes you can turn that into, you know, something cool. It just takes one. That's right. That's what it saw, as I mean. And it's like you know that's my sister used to tell me that too, like oughta it. Just don't get all discouraged in this dating game. Because it's just like one. All you do is didn't need one person and what you meet that person. It will just it all make sense. Although I am thirty nine now but you've also been super busy in your career. Yes. But I'm still thirty nine. So it kind of closes the window a bit. Like I went out with a girl who was twenty two and not on purpose. Yeah. But I felt like that was a little too much in a big just like she hit me up. I needed a date to a wedding and I knew her and I was like, okay cool. Let's go. I didn't go with her again. But I was like, I don't think just like life experience. Maybe like conversation, but to be fair. I might be like nineteen in my. Relationship, a true. How, how will you find out? I guess just trial and error. Maybe don't you're eighteen dated eighteen year old well let me say this. Laney Hayes was Walker as as well and is the best and. I know walk around Laney. They come to the house like they've been to the house like that's and that's rare for me to have people over to the house. But like I'm big fans and friends of them in general, she's going to be on an upcoming episode end depending depending, when you hear this already be out. Okay. So I don't have a couple of that yet. Right. But I do have a clip of Walker doing a freestyle Friday about the episode Gavin to the school was on the sideline. That's like a faux Thomas. Rhett drop to new album on the world and Bobby bones play my new song about my girl slick. He had a baby Godzilla was Flos spelling bee in eight weight. Ta Laney did a first podcast, everybody. Yep. She got real. We're caroline. How jobs June tenth? So save the date. Happy belated free stuff. There you go. So whatever whatever the date is today right now, when you listen to this June tenth the new Laney Hayes podcast, stay that is probably the most emotional episode I've ever done because they lost their seventh child and childbirth. And she almost died as well. And it's just like she was really raw and honest about it and talked about it, and she was crying. It made me cry. Like she'd the fact that she was willing to share that it's just it's really it's really emotional. And it's really amazing that she's willing to be so vulnerable. And that's something I learned about them is they want to use their life to heal others. And they're like, we don't share this story when they were going through it, they were looking for people to relate to she's like, it's a club you never wanna be in. But when you're in the club, you're so glad there's other people there for support. There's just like we just wanna be there for anyone else who's going through something like this. And I was like God. These are amazing people over the night. It was, I think santee awards last year. He was going to perform. The next day it yet haven't honestly MTO art is supposed to reform. Text. Like, hey, I ain't gonna not gonna make it didn't all it all went bad. Yes. So check that episode out and check out the get real podcast with Caroline hobby, or is that called her Jin hobby combination of gen and Caroline. And by the way, speaking of runaway, June, you wrote two songs on runway June's upcoming album. Yeah. Like a you know, their first single lipstick sick. We have a Cup of that here. You can make money. Don't no. I don't know. Maybe probably do you want all your own publishing. God, I didn't know things. Which the title tracks blue roses, which is it's unreleased the toe clip yet. Oh title is, is something else that it's like it is so beautiful. It's such a beautiful song. We have no clubs we have no way to Trump. We're just going to trust you. Tell them the truth and runaway Juna so good like Naomi's voice, she has to me, one of the best voices I've ever heard. I love her voice so much in Jenin Hannah are amazing. It's just I think I think they're great. I really think they are just one of the best girl, artists situations happening out there. I mean, I'm also biased. I like them, but they really are so talented all the things you said, I agree with your by our great. All of that episode. One eighty one Carolina hobby, check out the get real podcast with Caroline hobby, honest women on his talk. How long we go might almost one dead. It's a long. One is shut them down at about a minute. One, I'm like, all right. Folks. We'll see you next week. Right. We'll see you next time. Thanks Carolina to see you. Happening. I'm lucky that maybe thank you. All right. 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The alcohol and it'd be like Oh, yeah, they're right because they taste great virgin rate in the show you here coming off minute ray talked about a drink they had. Were they numb their throats or their limit right? Ray yeah. It will last probably five minutes so the entire drink. You don't tasty alcohol. You've see the numbing effect you feel. It's a crazy crazy thing. If you've never had it only in Vegas, does she got to go there? But. Do you really I'm sure I don't think that flowers just in every city in America. It's like a specialty flower. Fly In from somewhere. I think you're full of it well. The name of Blauert that numbs your mouth can't let Google little bit. There now fighting overpowers. All right Let's see number one here you go. Here now that's number one song right now. Which of those three songs is your favorite amy? It's tough between Salmon. Learn I think right now Sama, Louisville overlook that Luke. Song though is so fun growing on me big time number one pop songs from the weekend blinding lights. Returns a number one again for the third time. It it like how many weeks is it ten at the top? Three well three weeks. It keeps falling and going back to the top BIEBER. Was that last week number? One hip hop is. Debate featuring roddy rich a baby rockstar. To mean. Nothing. But I know from TIKTOK. Everybody doing that dance at so quick say. All those songs I know I, from Tiktok me, too. There's another one now now. That I heard and they're like. It's up for trying to be a pretty grammy. It's a movie song and they played it and think it was on he the one hundred you like it. I'll listen, but I was like Oh. That's wrong. People were dancing on Tiktok. Dang it's like. I must be too much time thinking about something. Nobody even cares about. Hey, let me run this by you. Here's an idea have for when we get back from Fourth of July. I WANNA have. A checkers tournament. There's eight of us here. winner-takes-all now. Nobody's really that good at Chequers. You don't know that I'm actually. I'm not a cracker barrel right now. Okay, so winner takes it listen. Sports aren't really starting back to the end of July. But, what if we have after the show each day? One match checkers, we stream the whole thing. Yeah Oh, You know what I have is one of those big carpet checkers. It's like. You want to bring that. No just a regular board. And then we can, whatever, but I think that each day whatever that we build a eight person tournament love it. Yeah, it's a good idea. Are you good I mean you've got to be good now. Here's what I'm not good at ready wheel of fortune and checkers I suck, it will of fortune why I will sit there and stare at the screen. It could be the United States of America and I'm like Parikka America like I am bag, or because you're good anything else. super-quick used to watch my grandma because she loved fortune, we watch every day and I was awful, and she was a smarter lady. Just crush me at that man but I think a checkers tournament. Let's say we all put in ten bucks or something love it, and then we put it on every day. There's one match that happens, and it goes on. You guys up for that. Yes. That'd be fun. We'll do that when we get back from. You know I was thinking about people. Kinda sucks fourth of July is on Saturday. Because, it's just normal maybe a three day weekend. What are they get Friday off? We get Friday off, but I'm saying mostly. It's like on a Wednesday. Kind of the whole week is awesome because Monday. You're like what we're going back with. It ain't a real week. Tuesday right here tomorrow anyway. You don't work Thursday. You don't go back Friday. You're like what the cares, yeah! I know that every seven years or so this happens. Boland's landed socks. This is the year that it's. Next year to? Zimu back every day. Doesn't move Don. Moves forward except for if there's a leap year. It does. Yeah. Everything's afford. Birthday was on a Tuesday this year. It's going to be on a Wednesday next year or you. We realize that yes I'm sure why. But thanksgiving is always on a Thursday. Yes, we know because it's always the last Thursday of the month. So you say it moves up or back. Or forward or backward? This is what I know if my. Tuesday this year. That means it's GonNa be a Wednesday. Move Next. Okay, so twenty twenty four hours on a Saturday on twenty, twenty, one, the fourth July's on. Sunday oh. You're. Coming to my, Day? Yeah. Okay. I teach things you know, yes, today I learned. Respond years old when he liked. How the calendar sometimes okay, is that what you WanNa do now i. just like that I was today years old. The other day ahead of today's year old today years old casino that thing when you get a pizza and there's a little circle thing in there. Yeah, what what you do as you put it on a piece of pizza. You're not going to eat. You can pull it away. What are you talking about? That's what I thought. It was to keep the lid it's to. To keep the live from hitting the top of the pizza, I was told it was that what it said was the reason it was invented was to put it in the pizza, so you can pull it away. That's a big lie. Oh, no, that actually make sense because otherwise you have to put your hand on the they were. They were ahead of Corona virus. With this little contraption that I never knew that that was what it was for here's. What it says, a pizza saver sometimes referred to as a pizza, table, or pizzas, stool, or package, saver, Pizza, Nipple or Pizza Ottoman. Law Now is an object used to prevent Eddie right on part of okay to prevent the top of the food containers, such as pizza box or cake box in just a minute for pizza kickbacks from collapsing in the center and touching the food inside uses are also separating pieces of pizza. I didn't even know the box thing now. That's what I thought I didn't know you're part of it interesting, maybe though they only to discover my of but I, didn't I just read it well? Yeah, but you brought it to the table. This is old school. He's asking. I got it from that grilled APP oh. Yeah, what is that? Here's the problem though, is it? Took a month to gay here. Where is it coming? It's a vintage. I don't know like Malaysia. Yes. Some stuff comes from places in the country, but this is not a commercial grail doesn't APP I use to find cool like minutes now? The weather's Weezer shirt I think about it, and like twenty eighteen and they got here yesterday. You have a johnny cash today. Yeah, it's not vintages from free people like. You could have fooled me. Yeah I don't know I mean. There's sure they mimicked it after that, but it just you know poser. Cool do do you feel like a poser? Sometimes, yeah. All right what's going on with you? What do you guys have planned for vacation? Colorado like. Are you doing stuff, do you do your kids like to ski? Well, it's the summer, so we skin inter I. Don't know you're GonNa have a mountain? Okay? Yeah, I've never been. Snow up there though right. Yeah but the you'll the now you can do that in. The the mountain that we ski in the winter, we actually may go hike it. Because? It's a anyway, but that's what we do. We do a lot of hiking hanging out at my sister's coffee shop hanging out with family just. Late nights around the Campfire s'mores pretty chill like it's just it's just easy, because both my husband's family and my family are there so we? We have plenty to do, but everyone's just chill, so it's not like high stress which is called. Have you talked about you doing here? Talking about yeah I mean I mean I don't know I. Feel like I get like lunchbox brings it up a lot to like I'm going to Florida just me and my wife. And I don't see a problem with it because I don't ever go to the beach to go interact with people like I, literally don't. Know because they're shutting I read yesterday. I shot a lot of beaches down as of now not shut down and we're standing AIRBNB. It's like a little beach house and we don't go out to eat. We don't go to restaurants and I don't go to a beach to lay next to a person like I just don't do that. So I feel like we're pretty safe. Yeah, it'll be fine. Yeah! I I would feel fine going to the beach with my family and just staying in our own little feel like you can easily distance from people kind of thing to go to the beach and be like Oh. There's people over there I wanNA fourth July. Weekend the. Let's talk now. It's after fourth Friday. Los Richard Beef with that. Well. I'm just saying that I mean he was so. What Am I. Looking. No my beef with it is. All YOU'RE GONNA. Get Corona, but he's saying he can control it, but the beaches are crowded now. It's not like there's. Two hundred fifty yards of space between you and the next person, so people are GonNa be walking by you. Go into the water. There's going to be families running up and and he's telling me I. He was giving me a hard time about going to vegas and I'm just saying I'm going to the beach that a see this room over your Eddie. It's waiting for you. Oh! Absolutely. We're going to be in there together. I'll be out of court deemed by the I'll be done. Here. Are you going to wear a mask with your swimsuit your swimsuit? Mask outside. At. The beach swim with a mass I won't. Swim with I feel like outdoors beach like not around People A-ok? How I think about it is if I can remain ten feet from people and I'm outside I. Don't need a man. That's what my mind. Tell here because I care about other folks getting sick more than me I. Wear a mask for the people. Over ten feet away, and I'm outside. If if I'm inside from going into the store for sure, I'm wearing a math. That's just how, but you're outside I. Don't know that I would be worried about wearing a mask. That's Kinda a way I'm looking at it. All right. I mean just looking at this beach from going. You're going to stay away from all those people going to that beach lunch I don't go to hang with people. I don't know but I. Think he's saying. There's people everywhere, but if there is I'm not going to the beach then. I'm GONNA take the Kayak out and let me go fish like in the ocean. Yeah? That's how I beach not deep sea I take the Kayak out, and I'll like. Go Fish, taking kayaks for one for me and my wife and we'll just do that if it's too crowded, I don't like the beach around a lot of people I just don't I listen. You're fighting with me. I'm just. GonNa respond I'm going to. Branson and we're not doing anything around folks. You know. I just don't like crowds. So, I feel like I'm good all right. I think that's it. We need to do the remedy. Can you hear me with the? The draft update. The bobby bones show update We drafted our favorite desserts Mike. Did you want to hop on the mic over there and give give us the. You can go with the winner I I think this person's going to be quite shot. Leslie surprise ahead coming in at number one was amy. Cobbler and chocolate cake. Guys, I don't even know what to say other than. Thank you for your votes and believing in me and. I in deserts, whatever the theme was Oh same. Well okay thanks. You didn't win a grammy. Is this your first one second? Raimondo's never one goose egg the whole season. A couple of them came really right down to it and just. Crap into the stick. You know who finished second Morgan. Take place solid with what twenty nine percent of the vote. Third. Came in with Bobby twelve percent of the vote. Eddie. Either one of don't understand when you were both in. It's tough. It's going to be one of US I. Just don't understand and people I guess the close though twelve percent. You're at eleven pers- no way. And what were your picks? Geeky Blizzard Sonic Oreo blast and Pecan Pie. That's right. That's right. Girl Scout Cookies Moore's glazed donut derogatory. Why would I listen looking back? I wouldn't have specialized so much and pick two different ice creams. But. Why did you go glazed doughnut when you just GonNa, win doughnuts yeah. I didn't think about that. I just figured I figured glazes kind of generic whatever. You know like because if you go, I mean you get donut whatever but glazed donut. That's what you get for everyone at the office. Right like generic. Generic? Thing I want to specialize into the to ice creams. You guys lured me into that song that that second one I'm shocked. You didn't go to mcflurry on Third I. Know what you guys are rose to be so hard. I different. getting roasted frosty for sure or here's Today's show appreciate you guys. Be Safe out there. Look out for others there you go the end by Roy. So like a lot of you, we've been spending a lot more time at home these days, which means or cooking and baking and of course more messes to clean up. I love baking with my daughter I mean we're pretty good team in the kitchen. She gathers the ingredients I'm measure everything out with her, and then she mixes it all together. And the other day she was pulling the eggs out of the fridge, and they slipped out of her hand, and it was. was almost like one of those slow motion things where I dived for the eggs, but totally missed catching them, and they all crashed on the ground. Eggs were everywhere I mean it was a mess, but bounty really came to the rescue before the spill could spread too far. I grabbed the bounty, and got everything cleaned up super-quick, so after the easy cleanup we went back to baking like nothing had ever happened, and it was all thanks to bounty, the quicker picker upper. Translating Crime. Welcome to Tuesday show more at studio line. We can see, but I guess there's a delay. Lunchbox was in Las Vegas with raise Bachelor Party so now he's in the marathon virtual green room, but we've set up a special corn radio booth for him. Let's box area. feels a little awkward in here, but you know I mean if you guys don't feel safe I. Want you guys to feel safe? And I still got to bring humor so I'm here. Nice lunchboxes that Ray is also, it has normal. But there's nobody next to him. You're six feet away from Scuba Steve Yes, I. Am I back yesterday. You guys weren't able to make it back in time for the show. good to have you here. Yeah, I mean that's what happens with alcohol. Sometimes. You don't know if it's going to ruin your whole next day another couple of days. You don't know what it's GonNa. Do the after effect. If it wasn't your Bachelor Party, I. Think I may have been a low air -tated. You can only get one of the news going to be acceptable, so we knew it was going to be acceptable because it's known for Bachelor your overdrinking your overindulging your over eating your do over in everything. Raymundo had sent me a list of the top five things that were the. We're not gonNA. Do it right now, but his favourite five things from his bachelor party I was very surprised that you shared one of those kind of egg with one of them. That's the one yeah, can you not share it? I can't. Could involve I'M NOT I'm? The thing is I now in weird circle of trust, and I was not going to say anything about it. Raimondo Another was I got a little last-second text message, but there's ways to do things and still talk about on the radio, and nobody will probably what we're talking about, but the thing is about that you can just say. Country Music Star. It's all you can say. Okay. We'll do. What you WANNA do okay and the next segment. We'll get into that, so Raimondo's has a list of top five moments from trip and wanted them. When he did number one on his trip, I was like going to share that because I heard it was like baller. It really number one thing. And I was like well. Look okay, totally totally unexpected, and a very a secretive thing by somebody and I'm GonNa find out who was in. It was really really cool oh you know. Don't act like you're GONNA. Find out will not one hundred percent confirm. Okay we'll come back to it. We'll get back to. Glad. Everybody's here. Lot of t to be spilled today that we say. Yeah you got. Drink sure. So, there's a situation remember Hey Ramona. Can you play a clip of Michael Ray this guy, 'cause you know Michael Rain, Carly Mary I don't think people really know who they are separately as much as. Unless you're in the industry, so here's a clip of Michael Ray Song. here's the clip Carly Pierce. Get married. And then eight months later, they're like we're getting a divorce. and. There's an instagram that was posted. Mike was it yesterday, or is it over the weekend? Okay, it's over the weekend. And it was carly. Pearce John Wayne from. Runaway June and Kaitlyn Bristowe, who was the Bachelorette? They have in Nashville and they take a picture and they're like. Oh, serve the dish, or whatever and in the background. There playing Gabby Barrett Song. I hope which is about cheating. Let's keep going with songs planned on purpose over the top interested. But for like the exact caption from Caitlin says Karma has deadline. Just here you go. So cheating song over the time. So. A lot of people are are decisions that conclusion they're drawing. Yeah is that they think based on this. INSTAGRAM Post. That one of them cheated and that one's not the one that's the picture. Appears interesting. So I'm GONNA have JEN. Wayne on later because I'm talking about Kobe with her. Because she had Kobe I'm gonNA. Slide it in there so. Let's see what she says yeah. So. We'll definitely SIP ON SOME T. Know. Fell A tea party. I mean you can say that, but it's really just here's frailties. E like you can say you're on the. We're GONNA get. Wasted, on. RAIMONDO's been gone for a couple of days. He's had his Bachelor Party and. Watching it on the Internet man look. Fun Hallway was was vegas the same no. Everybody's in mass. Conversation is a little awkward you to have those really special moments with your boys. At times. It was tough to understand what launch was saying, so you would just stand there playing. You're gambling launches six feet away from me. I'm sitting here on. An island is playing by myself, not even really I mean. It's different dude. Isn't it weird to that? You don't realize how much the visual. Visual part of speaking with someone comes into play until everybody wearing masks because i. don't think you notice it as much you deceive their mouth and go well. It sounded like that on us. All your mouth. Make that shape, so they had to be what you're saying now. There are a lot of times when like what it's weird when you can't see someone's mouth. You don't hear them as well. All right, so let's do top five moments from your. Bachelor Party in Vegas Number Five. lunchbox togas to Cosmo, and we all got these flower drinks that numb your mouth, so then when you drink the shot, it's basically a drink. You don't taste the alcohol it. Some numbing flower that I've never heard of before, but it was the coolest drink I've probably ever done. How much did that cost I didn't pay for it number four. Yes this is going to be crazy. You're not gonNA believe this. When I met a member of the Brazilian royal family. Apparently, she was a monarch. And She was at Caesar's. She was gambling. She lost over thirty thousand dollars, and at one point I wasn't gambling as much as other people. The table worse, so the pit boss wanted to kick me out, and this monarch said No. He's cool. He can stay. Absolutely awesome awesome things. She did for me and also able to see her lose thirty thousand dollars. Did you google her to see if she's legit I? have her name in I mean there's no trace. Okay well, then you might not. No, no, no, she is! For whatever reason they keep a very secret identity online, but her royal family of an entire country keep a secret identity, and it's so secret. They're sharing it with the ranch. Do the casino. There were other people that I looked at our players car. That's how I got her name. She would not give her name. She didn't say what her business was. She did say she was a did modeling on the side and then we'll. Get scammed. Did you over money? No, but that's when I also told her I do that as well. I modeled for express back, not really some guy. Convince you to go to his basement and take pictures and they never came out. Regardless my boy, he's an expert. When it comes to clothes and stuff, he said or she was worth five thousand dollar jeans or purse was like ten thousand dollars I mean unbelievable. Money at this table is very interesting in different me. Because I want to hear the next one. I'll believe. Right? Yes, so we took these doom buggies up to adrenaline mountain, and we got to see a site of Vegas site of California in a site of a meth lab all at the exact same time. That sounds fun. Was that sounds awesome? We covered in dust, but it was a moment I took my shirt off top of the mountain, and it was just one. It was so cool cell phone number two on your best moments from the trip. Yes, so because of the generosity of the listeners when I lost that two hundred fifty dollar initial bet within I would say twenty minutes after I lost that bet. We already had over three hundred dollars given to us like here. You go again. Here's your money back. We we hate the you lost that here you go have fun. People sending US money. It was it was crazy on Venema. Yes. Unexpected, we didn't even ask people for that, but they have some big. You're asking for weeks and weeks, which probably is a whole other conversation? We have off the air. But. Yes good for you all right? Number one number. One number one is the one. Who He's got a modify it now. Because when I saw this, he was going to say it like you told me about it was like. There's no way he's going to say this. I mean if we can break the code, go ahead. A country music artist in Nashville called ahead to Emerald Legacies restaurant. It's really fine star, five star, beautiful place, and paid for the whole final dinner last supper, and it was all totally covered anonymous on anonymously by this amazing artists wasn't anonymous. You knew. I had to speculations. Did. Invite Sam hot on the bachelor. He wasn't able to make it. Take that whatever you will from. Sam Hunt. Kid new lead them wrong way. If you're GONNA leave an anonymous, so I have a guest to not receive so I can't respond either. Don't respond either in any way, but we'll let them guessing and just talk of who they think it is. Go ahead all right. It's Garth Brooks. Possibly because yeah, he. I feel like he was so nice. He would do that and plus you're. She you're. He's your soon to be wife's family like they're close to him to great guests. WHO KNOWS YOU WANNA? Guess, yeah, absolutely I guess it's just random. I know Garth Brooks. because. Yes, same reason. Amy Said and also to his son in law was the trip. Come on! Gay that. This isn't a random guessing I. Mean I'm friends with Chris. Lane to who say what about Michael Ray just got a divorce. He's got all kinds of money now. Had to force. His. Way Of that well I'm glad you guys have your speculation gray. Was it a good trip? Though yeah I mean I wouldn't have done it any other way. If I could Redo it, we would probably done every step. The exact same group of guys, and while I was tired of staring at the rise, though by the end of the trip with the mass and everything else guys guys I know the color of every single launch Scott Green is other people got blue. It was weird. Staring at dudes is all the time. Okay Ray Breaking down the Bachelor Party. So the bump dot com is a website. Where do stuff you know the bump pregnancy belly get. The ten most popular girl names. MYLA! aaliyah Aurora. Aria. Amelia as they're. On and on whatever? Hundreds Corona Oh. She's so weird like who is naming their baby girl corona. Q now, Yeah, but the connotation. Yes, right now for girls, senator, the girl names but. Could be oh. Oh. Yeah! You're right a and no. Cronin didn't make the boys list. Braxton is number one. Hunter kyw Urban Logan. Liam Lucas, all these names sound so hip but I wonder if like urban is like. You know the Charles of two thousand forty. That's a I I'm herb, and that's pretty cool as a name. I love it. You think corona would have been okay pre corona, or would you just associated with a beer beer? Beer, which is cool. I like the name Krona's crown in Spanish well I was talking about Caitlin were like. Have Little slits. Little Gnat Eli. I'll watch slips. It's a beer. It's A. Cheap oldsmobile. Corona was weird you, don't you do? You do I love it. I love. You would name your baby Koran. Yes. I'm not even send. You would name your baby. No I like it as a name because I really yes. Corona virus, or whatever, but more people are calling to Covid, which that's a good name located little. Collar Rona for short. Down head on. This story comes from. Park, Ville, Maryland an Amazon driver been working all day long delivering packages around seven PM. He's like man. I'm just tired. Pulls the car over. The van starts dropping the packages down the sewer because he just wants to go home. Boy Neighbor sees it calls nine one one police arrive, and he's like Yup I was doing man i. She's been a long day. I'm ready to go home. Okay, we'll go ahead, sorry. Sorry. Wrong? Wow I'm looking at Gerry bonehead story today. Translating. Amy So what happened with you? Okay so. A couple that we know got married. We're not super close to them, so we just sent the gift and obviously with Ron Virus. There was no wedding, but we just mailed them a gift card their registry. We sent them a salvo set, which was about seventy five dollars. Really Nice. Wouldn't one I thought well. I gotTA. Thank you know in the mail to us. Thanking us for this amazing espresso maker that we got them I looked at the espresso maker. It's six hundred dollars didn't get them that. You got them the salad. Bowl set so. It just felt felt weird. Because I'm being thanked for a gifting, get and that means. Maybe the person got them. Of Espressos, it just got. Thank for the the the salad bowls. Was Your name written on it like? They didn't just send it to the wrong? David. They addressed it to us like it was to us. So I think you know and I know how thank you notes work, and there's a lot of unpacking and you have a list, and so I think just somewhere, you know. The maybe we were right next to the people that got the Espresso Machine and somehow we got thanked for it. So, what is your instincts? I mean it's just going to be awkward. I feel like. Normally. I just wouldn't be that big of a deal and just let it go in really isn't probably in the grand scheme of things other than I mean because I wouldn't care if I got thank for something that I didn't get on. It was less expensive than what I had spent a really matter, but the people that bought these Russell. They might think Oh leading gave the salad bowl set. We got you the Espresso machine so I just feel like. If I clear it up for them, then they can go to the correct people and thank them. Or whatever what do I? Do you tell me chill? It's the best case scenario guy because it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal, okay? If they realize that they're not gonNA, come to you. Go, thank you wrongly. You're just going to get, but if they realize it, they'll go to them, but like Oh, essentially the thank you card, but I feel like I'm accepting a thank you card it almost I compare. John you don't expect. And you should just take it. Okay. Okay. No one's being put. No one's being hurt. Because of this. Exactly, it is awkward. Them now Tell them now. Call Them Up, ray. Column on the earned tell them live, and they really not that big of a deal though. Do it. You don't want to tell them. No, but I mean I think more of I'm GonNa have my husband. Just shoot the due to text. That's good. You'll have to. That's good. y'All thing just for really fancy as president machine when we got you a salad bowl. that. I think I. It's more his friends I'm going to have him handle it, but I think it's the right thing to address it just in case they wanna properly think whoever gave them the coffee machine. Did you thank to all your gifts? Yeah! You got one. Did Yeah edited you. Thank you cards after I. Don't think so your wife day I wanted to, but I don't think we ever got to what tell you though. Thank you cards in general. Let's take out the wedding part of it. If you write, thank you cards. Those leave such a lasting impression. They do anybody that I have an you know what's a matter of fact I think abby who works on the show as she's wanted I think maybe the last person we brought on I think I interviewed her for a job once and she didn't get it, but she wrote a thank you note Raimondo. I know that you're kind of quarantined. Why don't you just Abbey in the room? So you consider she here I'm going to grab her. I think she just ran out? Okay, a real quick I think that's the NF. This is going to be much like your situation there with the she's. I didn't send you. Let me see though. Don't tell what we're about scuba if he can find her. So. We'll bring abby in here and I. Think I think if she wrote me a thank you card an entire. Thank you for interviewing me. And then it was time to hire somebody else. I was like you know I remember was abby who wrote the? Thank you card and I think that's as we're talking about. Thank you. I think that's the main reason. She got hired I'll I'm saying, thank you. Cards are a big deal. Yeah, it seems like they're not, but if you write them. And you take the time Taylor swift in her early career was known for writing. Thank you cards to a lot of people a lot of program directors and she would just write them one by one, and she started to be known someone who pays attention to detail and takes timed. Thank folks and still people. I know today. Have all Taylor Swift. Thank you card from when she was seventeen or eighteen years old crazy. Allow such a lasting impression. Is She out there? Yes, you ran. We'll wait what which wants to doing. Wondering we. We're like ten minutes like okay. We'll just let her go. Okay walk next segment should be best. She's still in the building. Right okay. Coming from the BASS, pro shops and CABELA's studio on music row is the bobby bones show? Abby. SCENES IS GONNA come in in a second. She doesn't know why she's coming in, but I believe. If history is accurate in my mind, I didn't hire her for a job. Once thought the interview was good. She wrote a thank you card. Saying Hey, thanks for the time even though I didn't get the job I remember that and then hired her later. Because of that now. That's not the case there's going to be on. Let's hope it's not but I think that's the story. What's her? We'll bring her in and ask her about that next. Bobby bones show. Show Coming in studio now, Abby, what do you define your job as around here, 'cause you do a lot of stuff around here. But what do you when someone says? Hey, what do you do what you say? Your job is a little bit of everything. I can go to if anyone needs to be. What are you doing right now during the show? What were you doing editing audio? Editing commercials doing all that kind of stuff behind the scenes stuff now longtime ago. If this is true or not, I interviewed for a job and you didn't get it. Right like two years ago, right What did you do after that? Not as a job after you left, did you write thank you, note to me yeah oh I did. Okay let her tell well, mean I wrote a thank you. Note that said, thank you for the opportunity. Thank you for taking the time to interview me and. Yeah that was a long time ago was This is what. We're talking about just now was that? Amy Got a thank you card for something that she didn't do. She bought someone a Sal. Thank you for the Espresso machine the cost of way more money, but then it turned into how valuable I think. Thank you cards and I I was remembering your story. I said Hey I interviewed. Abby wants to a job didn't hire her, but I remember her. Thank you card so much that when the job came open, I was like we gotta go get her like it left that much of an impression. I didn't know you read. I read it and I. Remember and I remember it today. Like you're back in the room, editing audio and bring up to them I could yeah, that's why she's kind of here. That's pretty cool. One of the things about interviewing and wrote this in my. Maybe my second book it was one of my many New York Times just to my second book. Fail until you don't s it. Hey, when you go into an interview, you're not interviewing for that job mostly time. They don't hire you from the interview, but what they do is they remember you later like if you go on to do great in an interview and they don't hire you. That's okay because that person's GonNa. Remember how interview had when it's time to go find somebody. You may be the person they call. They interview. Everybody else really hiring you. And that's what abby did with me I didn't know abby and she came in and what you're doing. Promotions Eater Yeah, and she didn't get the job and I was like man. That was a really great interview. She wrote a thank you card and I was like I had to go back and find a similar position. I was like you know it was great for that. First interview was abby. Bam Higher next thing you know. She's in here on the air. He's talking to. Keep any card. Whatsoever I feel like you. The card read it. You read it, you. You treasure the message unlike a birthday card. What are you people? Save that stuff, but and that's great for them, but for me I'm never going to look at it again. I'll just recycle it. Let it. Go somewhere else, but I got the message. Except here it is I actually. I carry? Anyway my whole. Bringing you in was to amy. Amy Remember that and it's very valuable. Right? Thank you for helping. It was you that was also going to be awkward if it wasn't you. Remember that no I do. Are you still trying to be a singer and tell? That's I mean I would love to be in a group. That's like what I would love to do. Whatever runaway June lost a member where you can? Never be awesome. That'd be really cool is still a dream of yours or no. Yes! Are you pursuing it all I'm really not trying to sing anywhere. But after after Krona, all this I'm GonNa, do it, so your name, those Abby Anderson Yeah, but there's also a singer name Abby Anderson. So. What would your new stage name be? I was thinking about. It's like I. Mean My middle name is Lee L. E., i. Do like. or You. Can Be like abby cadavre. LABRAL MEMORABLE All right abby. Thank you for hanging out with us. Or play This is the new advocate labral. Coming from the BASS, pro shops and CABELA's studio on music row the body don't show. Or here's a call. We got from Beth I was wondering. If you give a shot up, my mother can birthday on June thirtieth. My mother and I have been listening to your show for years and often talk about the show like your people. We see every day I. WanNa wish my mom happy birthday because she needs the world to meet just worked incredibly hard to help you, my brother and I anything we need. And she taught us also to be incredibly hard workers as well. I WanNa thank you this show or giving us something to gospels out to bond over daily and also thank you for teaching. Her thing was like what Karen is. Thank you have. High. That's awesome. Happy Birthday! That's awesome all right? Amy's pile is coming up next. You have over. Their country is out. Driving on the highway spotted something that didn't belong there, and they came to the rescue, and then also the NBA is coming back and doing something pretty cool with their uniforms. Right there we go, that's next. The mob. Sammy's pile of stories Verandah lambere and her husband Brendan. They rescued a stray kitten that was on a Texas highway and they named it. Tequila and the story is actually super cute. Because Maranda didn't even see the Kitten, initially, her husband did, and she said they were on a two lane highway in Texas, going about seventy miles per hour, when Brennan slow down, did a U-TURN. What are? Are you doing. He said I saw a stray kitten and I knew you kill me if I didn't pull over and we tried to do something about it without telling you sell the rescued it. It's about four to five weeks old and weighs fourteen ounces, and they're going to keep it those cool I. Love Animals like she is a dog lover. She named the dog after me once. Every bobby remember that. Show adopted that dog I. Think Somebody got it before I even had the chance to get it. That's what's great man. She gets a lot of the dog adopted Miranda at her shows, so many will do the dog adoption, but also bring toys or food or stuff. Don't local. Always love a good animal lover all right? What else amy, while the NBA is coming back and they released scheduled for the rest of the season. Games resume on July thirtieth and the full schedule ESPN DOT com if you wanna see, but really what my attention about the story was, there might be a change in jerseys as well. A word is the NBA's planning to allow players to replace the last name on their jerseys with statements on social justice, which will sell a lot of jerseys for the NBA. And, not only that my Oklahoma City Thunder diehard fan. They're playing. They're playing the jazz August I August second. Maybe August I. Dire Thunder Fan. If your other ones a fan, you gotta become a fan and I don't have an NBA team. Growing up in Arkansas, we didn't have an MBA eighteenth. Yeah, so it doesn't hurt you to be at thunder fans I've never had an NBA team. We didn't have pro sports where I grew up. Yeah, so I'm I'm just a diehard thunder fan, diehard Let's see here. schedule micro schedule, but it's not up yet, but I know they're playing Utah can't wait on ESPN. What, else so, the Bachelorette will begin filming again shortly after July fourth and yeah, they're not letting the pandemic. Get in the way. The BACHELORETTE will be the first major TV show to return to production in the US and the entire season will be shot in a corentin location with all cast and crew members living on site. You don't think about are a lot of the crew members at the leave their families to go in quarantine. Where there are just working. Like if you're someone trying to be on that show we get. This is your shot at fame I your you you. I signed up for that to go and live, and you know hopefully you win. You get to sell. Tell T. on instagram a few months. You know that's the goal. But. These crew members that leave their families have quarantine well. I was thinking about that. When with the NBA story, because they're living in that. Like what are they calling a bubble and how you know physical therapists trainers, all kinds of people that normally get to go home at night even though they work with the NBA. They don't don't. Know! Just having to work. Yeah with your Najia show. Like what kind of precautions are y'all going to be taking? Because y'all crew? We get tested every episode. Okay, that's good, so we go. We take the swabs in the holes requested every hole. Okay. I want to be president every hole. Just make sure, but yeah. We have a crew of. Eight people total, and every single person gets tested, and so and we're going to locations. That have. not an uptick. Only downtick very often said rural areas don't need as much of Hey. Get a social distance because you are social distancing right. I grew up in a very rural area. To Say Rural Mary Yard? All right, amy. That's my pile. Was Amy's pile of stores. Translating. See. Over to amy with the morning corny. Morning Corny. What do you call two dogs breathing heavy? What do you call two dogs breathing heavy a pair of pants. A pair of pants. That was. Morning Gorny. My dog is figured out how to Bang his head and get in the food closet. The pantry. That may call assure. Food. And it looks like a 'cause it so what he does, he takes his head because it's a slide door and just goes damn. Bam Bam, and he knows it'd be angles at a certain way. It just slowly come open and he sticks his nose and opens. and. He's only started doing this recently. So I left the house the other day and he's banging on it. and. He goes in and gets a whole bag of these Turkey dog treats the whole bag and when I. Yeah, and so I'm like Oh. No! So he's fine. He's fine. He's fine. Wake up the next morning I take him out before I come to work, and it's like poop central, except it's not healthy poop Oh, and then he just been sick for like a day and a half. But I get it the I also like when I get into something, I go hard to like I. Get it, but Yeah He. This dog is was in my house the other day, and he he's strong, so strong and low, so it's hard to stop him because he's so short, he's a bulldog. Yes, he almost ran out of the house three times any one time he didn't at. least like really, and even just to get them back and the house was like. Oh, I took all my strength to get him back. He's he's strong. He's a strong bulldog for sure. Anyway, that's my dog story. You know he's. Really jumped up on my bed. Titus part after he's got poop all over the bed. Sheets. Good Morning Everybody A new episode of my podcast, the bobby cast goes up Friday and Gary Lavar the lead singer Rascal flatts come over to the house. We hung out for a while him and Jamie Foxx like best friends. Did you really together for a while now? Really we talked about that in the podcast are interesting. That's crazy. Lavar Jamie Foxx live together for months for awhile. You'll hear in the bobby cast I'm telling you it's a great story stuff. He also broke some news. So this is Gary Luvox because the rascal flatts record. They're is GonNa be the last one and so here. He is breaking some news the podcast you know I know Jay's doing his own thing Joe Johns right in the bunch and you know and I'll just tell you that you know everybody that I saw. I'm doing a solo record number on solo record right now. Is that breaking news? That's breaking news I knew it already, but I, keep. I keep such good secrets. Yeah, Lord absolutely so wait. What does that I'm GonNa ask you about that, so you're doing a solo record. In. What does it feel like what's the so I'm doing I do a solo doing a Solo Christian records been a dream record of Mon- forever, and I'm halfway done with that now in. It's I'm so excited about it. It's GonNa be great and I. Think I'm going to do a solo record. Right after that. Wow! Now. What kind of expectation do you put on yourself in the Solo Country World where you've had your ass successful as you could have possibly been. You can't be bigger than the flats. So now it's you. How do you like? What is the goal with you same? Yeah, I mean the same. God takes sometimes. It's difficult for the three of us to agree on songs to cut and things that I really believe in most of the time it would work out. I feel the responsibility in the in the calling to continue to keep seeing an flats does or not. I'm just excited. I'm excited about doing my own thing. And you know and excited to see what happens, you know the flats get together at some point when everything clears off, I mean I don't know we'll see you. Go Breaking News Go. The boss got two solo records coming out and he's going to go do it. Solo country? Wow So. There you have it. I tell us joined the podcast to how a wake up. About a week or so ago. I thought I went to the store and rogue. Lee bought some mountain dew. There's mountain dew can on my bar. And I'm like Dang. Do not realize it, and so I grab it, and it was. It was Gary Spic. Because he gary and I are friends. and He came over to the house. He was hanging out and he left his spit. Can there and I was disgusted with it? So check it out Friday. It's a really great podcasts, not just on three rascal flats, but a lot about Gary's life, so search for bobby cash. Check it out where you can all right, we'll come back in a minute. Well we've got a few things. Talk about amy. First of all Eddie thinks he's working for. Now, have you heard about his new job? No. I guess times are tough ready, so we'll get into that. There's also marriage advice for Raimondo has lunchbox went out on the streets, and had people give Raymond or marriage advice, and then also we'll get into this famous person who can't smell anymore because of covid and I know somebody who had the same symptoms and we'll talk to her two cats, so we'll do all that coming up bobby show. Coming from the BASS, pro shops and CABELA's studio on music row, the bobby bones show Raimondo's back after his bachelor party rated you stay in a different hotel than else. Yeah, I did. I thought you guys were all getting rooms altogether bros.. I know we were and then I had links and stuff so I can hook up some people with free rooms the Lincoln it up, not working and stuff I made sure my boys were covered, and then I had a listener hit me up and say he gave me a crazy deal, but I had to book at a different hotel. Tell them no I. Actually told them while they're in line checking in. Why because it's just like telling your parents you tell them early. You tell them at the last second. When you did something wrong, so you knew though I knew the whole time and then lunch at the counter and he goes. Hey, guys, they said one of us doesn't have room, and I go up I guess now's the time I got to tell you I'm not staying here. Why did you go to their? Their hotel within though just to keep playing it. We're GONNA. Do the roulette spin, so I figured I could still buy a couple hours before he found out. Maybe he has a couple of drinks and doesn't even realize I go to different hotel, but it was for the better deal. I shouldn't have done it. It didn't ruin the trip, but I didn't feel bad about it. How much money did you save? Three hundred yeah, Why not tell him before you even leave just got? At random scared, he was scared right because there was a thing we all wanted to go into the same hotel, so it was like I was the one guy that backed out of it all when I should've I was the one doing the rallying cry at the beginning and then I. Just felt like I turned on them all, but he had a great time. Amazing unknown. You did it hurt that you weren't with them. No, because actually I ended up doing just one night and then I slept on a couch. ADD MGM the rest of the time. So. You just slept in one of the rooms. Yeah, yeah, so that's just how it ended up going down. That's Vegas. You never know what's going to happen. What are you GonNa, tell your fiance because she's having our Bachelorette Party in Vegas and a few weeks. Yeah, I told her that they have actually a room where they're all staying together, which is going to be better than how we did it? They'll have fridges and stuff. We had no way to chill drinks. Conversation was very difficult and the casino floor. We had to go up to a room to talk and the pool is going to be a bonus round for him. There's not as many people at the pool. You're spread out. It's beautiful. Would you recommend people go to las? Vegas right now or wait till it's a little more normal. If, you love to gamble. Go Right now. Because the casino floors are not as packed, and there are a lot more spacious, so if you're playing cards, it's just you and one other person most times. Are you getting checked for Kobe? I am in five days. I. Friends with a con so this time. Ernst! Earth hooked up in five days. Go ahead, so I have heard from there called contact tracers they traced how the cove goes from people when they interact with other people. And they said once you were involved with partial covert. You've got five days. That's when you're going to get the optimal results from the test. Positive the test right now. I could be negative. Be Positive in three days there. You really have to give at that time. So what day of the week are you planning tested Thursday? So and then I'll know. But I believe just from science. What I've heard. That's when you need to do it best just from sites. And you guys are social. You're spread out in that room. Yes, I can barely. Steve launch a completely other room. Yeah. I'm over here by myself. What's wrong with your voice? Voices good. No, no, no. He goes to. Listen, guys vegas with the masks, and it wasn't very smokey I didn't lose my voice, saying little league. Voices partly gone right now. Long. Gone right now I don't know about that, but I'm just telling. You partied hard and the mass maybe kept my vocal chords a little, wetter moist I. Don't know but I came back and I was like wow. I can actually still talk. This is crazy. The New Vegas is amazing. Does everyone agree he's lost part of his voice right yes. Yes, he's known him. Yeah, he was actually fine in Vegas, so something happened on the flight until his voice. Voice Monster got him every top me. Coming from the BASS, pro shops and CABELA's studio on music row the bobby bones show. All right here's Bonnie in Massachusetts. Studio, I, know you keeping much boxer ray kind of separated from you guys since I just got back from Vegas, but I was wondering if L. is GonNa, stay away from home, protected life and a boys and a raised stay away from bay to protect. It was just curious all right. You guys have a great day. Good Question Raimondo. What are you doing? same old same? Oh, we haven't kissed or hugged on remained about six feet away from her. So because she did say she's like probably know kissing until you get tested so so five days from well. No hugs either I mean honestly brings us really really close together coach. Her. LUNCHBOX! No we came home and I took a shower immediately I through all the clothes in the washing machine immediately, and then hugged my kids and my wife. We slept in the same bad. We feel very comfortable with the precautions. I took I was extra diligent. I goggles on the plane. I had a mask wore masks. The entire time dominated the mass game and I will be getting tested tomorrow so I. I feel comfortable where I. Matt lunches tomorrow. Raise the next day. They're both getting tested after that all right well. Good luck, boys, you know bright young. He went overseas and came back and bright, young as a wife and a baby. He was like you know I'm not going to go into the house with them, so he just lived on the bus for a why go week week and a half. House because he was like. Hey, even if I. Feel like I'm not and did everything right. I don't WanNA expose them, and so I was talking I did an interview with them on my bobby cast podcast, and he was from his bus, and he was like I'm just I have a boss. I'm lucky enough to be able to live in it for awhile. And if I did that video. All Day. All right coming up in a second, let's talk about movies. Because I saw a really interesting tweet that was hey. Tell me your favorite movie memory being a theater, and so I thought about it and mine men haven't thought about in fifteen years, but it really gave me a good old warm feeling. It's not about the actual movie, but who I went with. We'll talk about that coming up next. I'm day Thurston. I'm a writer, activist and comedian. I wrote a book called how. Gave a Ted talk about white people, calling the cops on black people for no good reason and I feel like we're having a moment in the US right now. You, probably feel as to. When officer, Derek shot and killed George, Floyd, something in America broke. Where this moment goes, we can't say yet, but right now. Something big is happening involving race and in particular releasing. So I'm going to try to explain it. From the COVID connection to lose, allow to protest to what De Fund. The police actually meet. When Mitt Romney, the man who tried to keep Barack Obama's second term away from US joins the black lives matter, March. WHEN NASCAR fans the confederate flag when Donald Trump of all people encourages cops not to choke people. We're having a moment. You can listen to. We're having a moment on the iheartradio. APP Apple, podcast and wherever you get your podcast. Coming from the BASS, pro shops and CABELA's studio on music row, we are the bobby bones show best. One of these movie reviewers on twitter said. Tell me your favorite moment. You've ever experienced in a movie theater. Go and then people just fill the feet. I was thinking about this. We can all share one. But first thing that comes to my mind, my favorite moment in a theater I think I was probably twelve or thirteen years old. My mom had just started either dating or married Arkansas. Keith one of those times. He'd just come into my life. And he was like. Hey, let's go watch. White men can't jump. I never. I don't think I've ever been to a movie maybe until I was twelve or thirteen. And have someone take me kind of like a father figure because I didn't have a dad and I remember going to watch. White men can't jump and I was like. Wow, this is crazy like someone took me to watch a movie. It was a sports movie. It was kind of a guy movie, and that's the first thing that came to my mind was Arkansas keys taking me to watch Wyoming can't jump when I was twelve or thirteen years old, and that's. It wasn't a scene or anything. When all this but I was like man, what so and I'm GonNa see Arkansas Keith next week because I'm going to Branson for Fourth of July than we were driving down to Arkansas. Efficient with Arkansas Nice it and then drive back over. What is yours? Mine is when my sister and I went to see pretty woman at the movie theater with our parents, because we were too young for it I for sure was, but I guess they couldn't find a baby center. My Dad really wanted to go and there were certain scenes in the movie where I just remember him putting his hand over my face and I couldn't watch. How old were you and now I know what those scenes are. Adult I ate well her nine. That's Oh you remember that because Special Navy Yeah. I in pretty woman to this days one of my favorite movies and then we got when we got home whenever it came out on VHS tape. We had it I. Think I still have it on Vhs, so and then for Halloween I dressed up as Well, which is wild won you saw the movie and then Halloween addresses the process. I don't know well technically. I think my mom thought I was like doing like A. PUNK look, but I definitely went out on the street that I live on and I walked up and down it. Appearance really registered a lot was happening, but obviously at that age I didn't really know the occupation the of what was happening, but I figured out later, but still one of my favorite movies ever Eddie which favorite movie memory all right in a movie theater, so this was before you can drink or really like have fancy dinners movie theaters now now you can have beers or whatever during movies, but before then you couldn't, and I'll never forget. I went to a movie with my cousin, and she surprised me with a six pack of Miller lie, and I was like what how did you get that in here? So we sat and watched him I. Don't even remember what we watch we just. A, while you open them, oh. No No. As, he opened it. Albert? To. Well I think they heard like. Whenever we try to get up to go to the bathroom and you kick over a beer. Candy would roll. That's Funny Hey Mike. D. Mighty hasn't movie podcast you can check it out. It's called movie Mike's Movie podcast. What's on your movie podcast this week? What he talking about? I am talking about the greatest road trip movies of all time like movies about road trip. Trips. Isn't there. One called road trip is one is really good well. It was good for us back in the early two thousand thousand. What else what? What's another good road trip movie? planes, trains and automobile such a good movie. I just saw the other day. Right or What else little Miss Sunshine. Such a good movie that's like Steve Corrales one of his first big movie role, and it's really good. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, Steve Grow and the pilot kid. He wants to be a pilot so bad. Yes, but he doesn't have good vision anymore. He's colorblind. Oh. That's what it is connected with you. Thanks I'm color. Blind and I wanted to be a pilot. What else dumb and Dumber Guerrero Mike. That's a good one to see. Check it out. Movie. Mike movie podcast. Translating. This is an interesting piece of email ag here. Let's check it out. mailbag piece of email on. All Right? This is a you know. Hey, bobby, my name is toby I'm a big fan of the show. Quick Question I go to get coffee every day at a local coffee place. where. It has case you're listening, but there's a new woman that's been working there, and it's taken notice to my order. Has My coffee ready when I get there? Although I've never seen her face I'm very attracted to her. She likes very athletic. Horizon Gorgeous but I've never seen over that a mask on, and I've always wearing mine each time as well. Here's my question. Is it a bad I? Did ask a girl for a phone number while wearing a mask. How should this go? Any suggestions would be amazing. Thing. Sign Toby. It reminds me of a Halloween scenario. This isn't the first time we didn't get to see everybody. Clearly before we asked him out as you go out on Halloween and meet someone who was dressed as little Bo peep, and she had on a big curly hair and big dress and a big. Curly stick. Like aw, but you don't know what's really. Don't know. About you and like that, but then you also just couldn't let it be washed away with the waves like if you're interested, you go, Hey! But what you do is you try to schedule something that can be quick. Well lit and the mass things tough, though because if you schedule something now, you're going to have to wear a mask for the most part I. Don't think it's a bad move because this is what I would do, I would say hey, listen. You know kind of get your number to call you then you text and get her instagram, and then you look at all the pictures of her face on there you go. That's the solution. Honestly when you're reading the no. I thought that what he was going to ask us was is wrong if I ask her to just take off your mask glacier. I don't think that that's wrong. Either later awkward. It was like hey. Really Cute Voice. Let me see those. On your. I think the move is though if you WANNA ask for a number, ask for its if she's single and then get her instagram. Trump's talking that'd be my advice. Yeah. I guess you could these days. Can't you just ask them instagram and not? The number I whatever it is move is to get to her instagram. Morgan you're single twenty six years old. How would you suggest he lived his life at this point I think you had a really good suggestion I would definitely say at least like see because I know a lot of people. Smiles are really important in like that kind of gives off the vibe of your personalities smile, or if you're not a smiler, I dunno different things so I would definitely see what's under the mask. Mask before you like to go now I, don't think it's a bad idea to say. We talk every day, and I have no idea what you look like. It doesn't have to be creepy can go up to her and be like hey i. appreciate you have my coffee. No one like like I feel like I know you, but actually have no idea what your face looks like and you don't have to say. down. Seen his face either so he could be like although I like in. He can again creepy. Show, me yours. Yeah I think. I don't think there's anything weird about. If you position it as hey, look I I appreciate. You always know what I like. Thank you very much. It's weird because I feel like we know each other i. don't even know what you look like and then put the ball in her court and see if she wants to Flash Chin. If she doesn't. That's okay. What have you do like? Hey, we'll pull it down the same time one. Okay. My opinion is I. Don't think it's bad to say hey, show me your face in a nice way like I just said, but the goal is to get instagram's so you can check it all out, okay? could she just be really good at her job and she treats a lot of our customers. would be, but still that addition stop him okay. I just. Didn't you know there's always that you have to keep permits a little bit of a a guard up? Just because you know, but if she says no, then it's weird going to get coffee for now onto, so no that that if you go and let me get your number, she's like no. It's going to be weird now on. You gotta find new coffee, place basically. There you go doesn't. Was Bobby mailbag. Telephone, the BASS, pro shops and CABELA's studio on music row. Is the bobby bones show. I was reading a story about Rudy Gobert! WHO'S NBA player? When he got sick and had cova, that's when they shut the NBA down. He was the player. A lot of them have had a sense, but he was one when he got tested, there were like. Everybody off. Remember that yeah I, think so. He's the one who touch all the microphones before and then went back and he was like. Joking around. Corona touch tire. Remember yes. Yes, yes, almost four months since he tested positive, but he's still says his sense of smell is am i. He can't smell. That is such a bummer. So march eleventh, and that's the one that led to the shutdown of the NBA in one of the common symptoms is loss of smell and or taste, and he's like I still. Don't have it for smell goes. He has taste but no smell and so at John Wayne from runaway June on the phone. Who has talked about her say Jan, how are you? Girl. How is good? Did you hear me talking about Rudy Gobert in his okay? What did you lose and taste and smell? Do you have it back? Thank God. Yes, I do, but I. After all my symptoms are gone. I noticed I couldn't smell anything, and I could taste salt like I. if I had a salty and I could taste the salt, but other than that everything was just bland. And lasted about four days, and then it just slowly started coming back, but it definitely freaked me out. I'm like what if it never comes back? I can't believe he's still hasn't. Gotten his back. Runaway June next album. They're gonNA. Have a song. What if I never taste again going to be? Number one deep sad woody fun never taste. Yeah so. But, that's weird. Right to, and that's how you kind of thought. You knew it I was not being able to taste or smell. Yeah because I didn't have the traditional like symptoms. The fever and the shortness of breath I just had body aches and severe fatigue, so I thought something was wrong, but it wasn't a hundred percent sure, and then when I lost my sense of smell I was like. Oh, boy, I have the sucker the crazy. How'd you also you don't think about things like smelling things like? If you're in the house and your oven, you like leave the Evan too long. It can smell it or if there's a leak, it can smell the league. You don't realize how much you actually use your sense of smell true. Yeah. That was my question like. How do you test that like? Do you just pick something? That's really strong odor and you're like no. I can't smell it at all. A yeah I was spray perfume and I couldn't smell a single thing that's. Weird. Own a couple of things that I wanted to do here. One I'M GONNA play. You guys as new song in the second set your Nice enough to grace us with your presence, do you? Let me, ask you this. Oh, by the way on with us right now is GIN from runaway June. Do you want to comment on the? Kaitlyn. Bristowe Carly Pierce you all three hanging out. Do you WanNa comment on that at all or no? Well because it's now the talk of the town. Kaelin is so funny I'll just say she's a good friend. She wasn't afraid that up for her friend. Okay, 'cause because in the video and we talked about it earlier. You know you hear a Gabby Bernstein. And I love that song. That's a great song and then hoax cheats, and it's carly ears. Listen. That's enough of a comment. Okay tell us about this new song because this is you guys new single, but now natalie stalls on it too right. Yes, and this is so exciting I. It'll be the first time that it's getting played with Natalie on the song and she's just awesome. She has brought. The best new energy and and life to us, and we're just so excited about it, and the song is. Really nostalgic, and it takes you back to your childhood and I feel like everyone that hears it. Maybe it's not their exact story, but they can relate to it in some way, and I think it's definitely a message. That's nice then and that we need to hear right now right here. It is from runaway June here is. We were rich Jen, good to talk to you, talk to you soon. Thank you guy all right Jin? Coming for the BASS, pro shops and CABELA's studio on music grow, we are the bobby bones show best. At he's not really working for ovaries. He's just. Being on ARY let's say. I left Eddie it made me some ribs and I love and he's like. Hey, you forgot your almost home now and my house is on the way home, so we just brought on by. But he texted me and I was like so okay so i. make you the ribs and then drop them off what I work for now, but I we made you we made you trace Legesse. Cake brought it to you. Did. See I know I was I was messing with you. It's pretty funny. Did you like the ribs? Good thousand, expecting a few more, but I got more. How many were there like threes? No. No, no, no, no, you ha! Ha it was like half a rack half a slab. You know beggars can't be choosers hang dude. Good but I had them all. In one meal Caitlin was she'd had okay. Lyndon have any I have home. I think that's the problem. Okay salvage. They're pretty good. But yeah, they were good, but that's the deal. Okay, and now I'm working dessert for you. Talking to my wife about it what to make for you guys one team to another team. Yeah, okay, all right by the way speaking of Barbecue, the country fourth of July Barbecue presented by lows Friday July third, so this Friday eight, seven central, only on the CW Cain Brown Lauren Lane Old Dominion. And we're all doing it from our backyard, so I'm hosting from my backyard Lauren, and Kane and their house Old Dominion. They have five people, so they didn't pick. They went somewhere special to do it, so you can check that out. And lows helped out with my backyard, too. They sent a couple of a couple of chairs and some flour Eddie. Most of flowers I did I did thank you this year. We're all home for the fourth and a visit to lows. You can make it the best it can be. Grill to they love to grill on my house. I showed Caitlin how to use it left it. They I think they brought all the stuff and I was like. Wow, this is really nice, and then they were like you can have it if you want I want. Betty a lot of the flowers, but I kept the girl. You can find new grill kicking some stylish patio furniture. There's a lot just check it out. Go to Lowe's and check it out there. I heard country fourth of July. Barbecue presented by lows Friday, July thirty, eight, seven, central, only on the CW. Reminds me I do need to go to Lowe's. For What do you knew? I ordered a new faucet from there. I realize it's for store pickup. Just remembered right now and we're telling you about I. Thought I clicked, deliver it like mail, it but I didn't. It delivered to the store and I was like. Where's the Faucet? And it's like at the store waiting for me I gotta go. Pick it up. It's coastal, Hey! It's cute editors Raymundo. Your Bachelor Party your back. You feel good. You feel like it was the experience. Like you really feel like you had a bachelor party experience. Yeah, I don't know what else I could have possibly done. We did eight Z. Lovey, do you feel like you missed? Eddie and I are not really. I'm telling you a couple of times the table there was a charity too wide open where we could use the six. You know the the whole groomsmen group. To. That weren't there at the grocery on my nephew, but he's only twelve and the best man and bill. Yeah, he got. People He got excuse me grown is why? Coronas E. This is why we didn't know this I thought you said he had something come up yeah coronas, said. Nineteen. Up Seriously. Tell us things well. I, mean I believe that he got the has wall. I was in Vegas and then yes, he confirmed with me that he did have krona. He's now been quarantine down I think he's almost better. He's on the other side of it. Yeah Guy something came up with him yeah. I think he said personal matter and infectious disease. The okay though he's he, he said it was twice as bad as a hangover. At times you do some sweating and weird stuff like that, but it's the flu times about five or ten. Were you with him ever leading up to it now? Where does he live in town? He's in Austin Texas. Okay, so you yeah okay well, let's go out in Vegas, and talk to people, or is this from here in town now? That was in Vegas I figure. We're on the Bachelor Party and we're celebrating Ray getting married so I hit up married people in Vegas and said hey give my boy here. Some marriage advice all right here. We go one. Hand. It's probably not gonNA. Work is just tell. We're dying breed those of us. They've been married a long time. We're dying breed, right. That's good Mary Jane Brother our brother. Rice all right. Here's advice number two. I'M GONNA. Tell you don't do it. Number one causes divorce is marriage. And you could tolerate her. But you're still married. So what? What's the to mirrors? One makes it work. The key is just knowing you're wrong. In doing whatever he asked wherever he Bosley can. Say. That someone else that's. Good marriage are here's the voice over three. Mares lots of sex. That's it. You're. Just, listen to your wife. Make sure that you're listening to her and you are listening to what she needs. Okay, and it doesn't have to be physical it, can it? are very important. You know what if your wife says? Hey, honey i. just need ten minutes alone. You give her ten minutes. Twenty. Rate. How do you feel about that? Some of the people yeah pretty depressing when it comes to marriage out hope for some more upbeat of advice and opinions, but yet whatever that's what you get a Vegas Pool Party. Some of those people had booze. Let's wait real. That's where you did it at the pool. Yeah people laying out trying to get a Tan? You know children their bikinis. It was a perfect opportunity to go to some girls in bikinis. Morgan. Wallin chasing you bobby. To Pavel. Oakley's from the nineties. and not in like a way and now raise wearing a hat. With raise if beyond say and we were talking about if you know. She was worried about what they were going to be doing or what they were up doing the new. pull up instagram our good. You see that picture. where? Bobby bones show. What are you doing today? I'm packing. For maytag, all my stuff for when I go to Colorado and working a little bit, so that I feel like I can go on vacation and not really think about podcasts and stuff. What about you? I'm taping another upset. Easy Trivia tonight, so breezy trivia for them. We have a new one coming out. Friday and the guests are. Taylor, Lewan, from the. Oh Cool Chuck Nope does last week. Taylor Lewan chip esten Austin and chase rice already taped it. It's funny. We taped pre. Concert with thousands. so yeah, that comes up writing. I did a whole interview yesterday with the Wall Street Journal about Dixie chicks chicks. Oh, sorry, you're right. The and I said that Tim to it because I just kept saying I said Hey. Don't write that I'M NOT ACKNOWLEDGING THEIR NAME CHANGE I. And I'll say whatever supposed to say as far as I'll get to it event soon. It'll be natural, but it's not this feel natural, yeah! And so I was like. Don't take me accidentally slipping and say Dixie. Chicks of saying I'M NOT GONNA. Call the chicks. I'll call them chicks whatever they want to call them a column of but. That, you know what's so weird about interviews is off the record and on the worker. As long as you say off the record, suddenly, they just. Don't print it I. Don't ever trust anything to. have. You should know, but I mean I. Know I see this in TV, shows and movies and stories or it's like. Off, the record real quick, and you're just like it's like an unspoken like thing I mean. It's spoken, but understood because not official right. Yes, but I never say anything off the record. The only things off the record ever is i. have friends that are in the industry or artists, and we hang out and everything is. We don't talk about. Because again. We have to kind of talk about their music and. It's not like it's anything bad, but it's like nothing them tears going to get talked about. or You can't write a song about it. As GonNA think. That's Weird I. Don't know I. Don't do interviews like that. I. Just know that everything you saying that to him where he's just like Oh and by the way a boggy can't quite get the name thing down and then he told me not to report that he can't get the name thing down, so I'm saying. He told me not to say that. That'd be fine right. Yeah, but I I talk living for five hours a day, so everything I say is on the rector, even if I'm just casually mentioning so I just feel like my life is on. The record now is just. Confusing to me when I see it in a movie. Great I'll call a reporter talk distant. Give them a test. I, don't want acknowledge you I am it's a secret but. Eddie. Tell all your secret, and then they're like I got caller ID bobby I know to you. We're done. Have a good day. We'll see Morgan. What's on the PODCAST. Roll through this real. Quick Raymond. I gave us the top five moments from his Bachelor Party. Amy needed some advice on what to do after she got a specific. Thank you, note. You Amien Eddie shared your favorite movie moments from the theaters and Jennifer Wayne came on and talked about her coronavirus symptoms. Yeah, not because of just a symptoms, but there was a famous basketball players like it, maybe a year before I can smell again, and I just wanted to know because she's from runaway June WanNa know if she's able to smell or taste yet because she had months ago, too, so all that's up on the podcasts. They check it out search. Bobby bones show. Thank you goodbye everybody shit. Show. Hi This is Newt Gingrich. Invite you to listen to my free weekly podcast called neutral. Every Sunday. We will explore topics and issues that are relevant to your life, and as a historian I will offer stories in context of how the past influences are present and future download Newt's world on the iheartradio APP on Apple Podcast, neutral dot, com, or wherever you get your podcast.
The Amazing Race of Life with Caroline Hobby (#57)
"What's up I'm wilfling from thrill us with some amazing podcast news? We just launched our very first podcast thrill his best and the rest every week. You can hear me and my amazingly talented colleagues talk about the best of the best in food drink travel and entertainment from the scariest movie of all time to the best hangover cure. Ever listened to thrill his best and the rest on the iheartradio APP apple. podcasts you know basically everywhere anywhere you can find podcasts. This is Kelly Henderson. And you're listening to the PODCAST. This week my guest is my friend. Caroline Hobby Carolina's both warm and kind. But she is also very real. We we sat down to talk about why she started living her life from the truth and how that's changed everything. She also tells me how she found love after years of being terrible at dating and how their love love has now expanded into a family. We're both currently extremely tired and hormone also. This conversation brought lots of raw emotion and even some tears however it also brought many insights into what we are both truly wanting to bring into this world and how each of our podcast conversations are helping us to do it. Here's caroline okay. So I told you before but I wanNA talk about why you came to Nashville. I came to Nashville to be a country and western singer. That what you wanted to do forever. Well kind of yes. I wanted to be in entertainment. I grew up in Waco Texas and I wanted to. I mean I would have done anything like acting modeling. Seeing too short tomato I did get a model search America when I was late. Model Search yes. Of course. Well you're pretty enough to model. I mean I just wanted to get in entertainment payment industry. Whatever it was yes so when I was in junior high and high school no junior high went to all sorts of America? Didn't Pan Out Dang it today. They say you're too short. I think so I mean yeah I never really made it past like the open casting call. So you're like okay. What's my second option? Second option then. I would sing in church hurts. I was in choirs and I always had like a good solid strong voice not like Carrie underwood or anything but like you know who dies rely. I mean that's like another the level of voice as like we can make this work you this okay I worked on it. took singing lessons tried to take guitar. Lessons Never learned guitar although I took guitar lessons since I was in a junior in high school and I never learned how to play guitar. What was it it just wasn't right? Just didn't yeah I just. I don't know what it was and then I tried learn mandolin. Mandolin learned at terribly like beat around on a mandolin. A little bit But yeah so move nationals. I'm GonNa sing because then I got into show choir and choir sir performing in highschool and are really loved performing and singing and so I'm going to Nashville so that was the plan when you came here. Did you immediately get it. Setup with stealing angels or was it like a top okay. So what happened so I went to College Belmont. So that's high got my parents are like okay. Go to Nashville but like go to college. They should have to go to school into college. Majoring in music business in English and I started interning all over music grow started interning for Victoria. Shaw who's a hit it's Aria. She wrote the river. Garth Brooks and Nobody wants to be lonely for Christina. Aguilera and Ricky Martin and she wrote some other stuff so she got me like involved with the songwriting community started writing songs and then randomly Jennifer Wayne who's now and runway June. Yeah moved to Nashville. She moved into a house that she thought on craigslist. She moved in with him with one of my best friends. Jen like the first day she moved here and she you moved here to d music and I was pursuing music and we both were like kind of nervous to be doing it on her own through like let's form a duo. Yeah formed a duo. We started singing around and then she was. John is John's granddaughter so she was hooked up with like ca big agency. And we KINDA got this reality. Show going where we're GONNA do a reality Addi show based on our heritage go distantly related to Daniel ask you what the connection with Daniel Boone. Yeah we dug it up because then we had they were like this is a great idea but you need it to be a little stronger. Can you find another legacy. Yeah child so. We can't Tayla Lynn Loretta Lynn's granddaughter. Yeah and so then. And we had Loretta Lynch granddaughter. John Wayne's granddaughter the descendant of Daniel Boone send it. Everyone's related to thanks. Oh isn't he basically was a strat. Did the show happen. We almost almost made it. We got to the final stages and on. TLC Yeah and then it just never panned out. But then after the show didn't pan out where like you know what we're going to stay true. Oh because we were so much stronger together and then we trio and the show went away. Obviously but we stayed stealing angels. And that's how we you created our little music group. So were you on the road like Y'all had a record deal right power early. Who produced the dixie chicks the record before us and we ended up partnering Sony and we were on the road nonstop like on a radio tour constantly? And we just or touring and a tour bus we went to Iraq we did a USO tour It was awesome. We'll deal deal so we had three singles on the radio to was like forty eight which is not great but we cracked cracked the top fifty. Yeah and then it just started falling apart like what happened. Tayla third single wasn't doing well. Are we had a private investor star because we are half independent half was Sony Sony distribution but like our main label was independently backed by this guy. Yeah and so. We're on our third food single wasn't doing well Kinda. He was Kinda getting tired of pumping in money. You know you kind of get to that point where it's like okay. Is this GonNa work or not right like you had to figure uh-huh and then so the Tayla ended up getting pregnant and her fiance lived in Seattle so she like moved to Seattle Kinda dislike like it just all started crumble all the time off the same time so then the vessel kind of pulled out Taylor left First Seattle and then literally from one day the next day it was just over it was crazy Roese. We had devoted seven years of our life to this band and then it was just done and Jen and I really like what are we gonNA do. This was our whole plan. We were both in our late twenties at that point and we had put all of our eggs in this basket. We're like we're going. I entered into like a panic depression. Yeah it was like my life is over. Isn't that so oh interesting. I mean I feel like I've talked to a lot of people in Nashville. And what obviously we know of all successful people is the successful part. But I've heard every single person story and there's a a story like this slagging you literally just think you're done so like what did y'all do I moved to Austin okay. I literally late closer to home. I like had a breakdown as cannot be in Nashville anymore. Ended up breaking up my boyfriend four years. Who's now my husband? Michael you used. We'll get to that later. Okay Oh my gosh. We broke up. I just like I had to get out. I just the the walls were closing in on me. The Nashville is like cannot be here anymore. You're I can't breathe. I don't know what to do. I've got to reset my life because truly I had thought for my whole twenties that this is what I was an ideal at gotten hooked up with a moved here and is nineteen to be a singer got hooked up with Palin was like twenty three twenty four and now here I am like twenty eight twenty nine and it's all crumbling thing. Why did you feel like you couldn't rebuild here in Nashville? I just didn't know where to start and I thought like okay. My shot is done like this was my one shot with music and I just didn't know how to even pick up again because we weren't going to be a trio anymore. I didn't WANNA so act. I didn't WanNa Songwriter Disa- songwriter so everything that I was putting putting it was just this band and now the ban was done. I we didn't I tried to get like another member and we auditioned people and it just didn't work and then like we didn't know who is seeing lead anymore because we didn't know if Jin either Jenner our strong enough to be the lead singer but then I didn't want to have a new lead singer. 'cause I just like I so wanted to sing lead but I thought maybe that was the reason we weren't working because my voice wasn't strong enough so it just was. I just didn't know even how to exist anymore. So so I was like okay literally I one day found myself on my knees hyperventilating. Like what the Hell am I gonNa do with my life and and I heard this voice in my head. It was God. I don't know what it was but it just told me Austin like screaming and my head awesome and I picked up on a move to Austin the next day you know the next day basically like the next week. Why would you do in Austin? My sister lives there okay. My niece lives there so I taught school music school music classes and it was really sweet and I stayed there for a year and just kind of like reset. Yeah but it was kind of intense like I. I feel like I would ever have to go that extreme again if my life apart. That's like a twentysomething move though. Yeah Heart Yeah now. It's falling apart so many times that I'm like okay. Well we'll rebuild over tomorrow or whatever but you know that first time when you best yeah so much of your life something rashes and you're like how do I live. I yeah well also I think when you're younger you expect things to work out and like I just remember thinking like this is just GonNa work out because this is what I want to work out. And then I realized like life doesn't work work that way so totally makes sense to me that you had panic so how did because you lived an awesome for year which I didn't actually know that but did you come back back. Yes and that is that when amazing race happened so I was living in Austin and I hit another wall I was like this isn't where I'm supposed to be. I could just feel it. Cost him but it just wasn't wasn't there wasn't the entertainment industry that I was looking for their. Although there's a great music scene it's like live. Music Scene Yeah. It's just totally great vibe. I but it just wasn't I knew it wasn't supposed to stay. Yeah and so. Jim and I randomly got a call from our agent. And then I guess I'd been in Austin like six months. Maybe and he is like amazing race is looking for to country singers. y'All WanNa do it and we're like. Yeah Ah we both have no idea what we're doing with our lives like police. We go around the world on a reality show so we kind of just got to like hop right through and made a video and we got on the show. Do they pay you to be on amazing race. No you just get paid based on what place you get So we got. We did it two two times. We see the first time we got fourth place. Okay and you get how Michigan for Fourth Place and you get twenty thousand for second in place you go from a million dollars to twenty thousand and we got second place. When we went to all stars we lost by four seconds so a million dollars to twenty five thousands of life changing money so okay how do you take off like? I can't imagine taking off that much. Tom Like how did you win. Do they pay for you to do the show. Okay no I mean like to do to live So what had happened was I had moved back to Nashville. Yeah 'cause Jin Jin having to move back to Nashville. I was up here visiting gin so like did you have rent and we will yes and we were. I was actually working as a song. PLUGGER had move back to the. I got offered a job after I live in Austin I got offered a job as a song plugger. Some move back to Nashville and they let me like take a leave of of absence for said. It's not as long as I was thinking about thinking it was longer and then had publishing deal okay. So she could could. Yeah so she just didn't write for a month so we kinda flexible situations. You have to have flexible situation. Doesn't it say I don't know how anyone does are like always wondered about people in the Bachelor. 'cause you don't get paid to do that kind of stuff either to so I round y'all guy or if play fourth-placed miss four seconds no that was all stars and then second second time we did it. We got second place in LAS by four seconds. Oh my God the torture and it was so fun and it was such an amazing opportunity to travel the world. We went to twenty countries. What was your favorite part of the whole thing? You know seeing seeing the world and realizing that like we're all the same everyone is kind of going for the same thing in life you're going for or just like a purpose in its family and friends and you know it's not that much different like people live differently but everyone really wants the same things and I also realize that people are really good and kind and generous and there's a lot of great people out there that will help you and it's just we're not so different you know in that I feel like also like we get so lost in The business alive that it just puts it in perspective that like you can be happy doing a million different things and there's so many different ways to go through your life and you don't have to do it a certain way. Yeah what what would you say like. If you think you can be happy doing a million different things what would you say you saw. Was it about like the people they were with. That made him the happiest the jobs they they had like. What kind of things I think? That's a great question. Thanks really good interview I think it is. I think it's I do thing it's like a state of mind and that it is involves. I think it involves community. I think you have to have a community of some sort short or or something some support system of yeah and then have your purposes even have to be your job. I just think it's just I finding joy in your in your life and I think that involves community really and then if you do have a purpose that you like a job that you love. I think that's icing on the cake. But really really the big thing to me. I think it's just having a community. Yeah support you. I think that's so true because I think about my life even the my job has become sort of my community are like like my people you know and I'm friends with all the people I work with and it makes the biggest difference especially if you're traveling with people or you know what I mean. I think you have to let people in you know I. I think that that's another thing like I've learned to live like it's okay for life to be big and messy and it doesn't you don't always have to get along with everyone and like you're not always gonna see eye to eye. Can you can show people you're vulnerable parts and you can cry to your friends and your family and that is really how you have a community is by letting people build you up and build people up because we need each other to lean on this life is too hard to do it alone. Oh my God they mentioned that. Yeah you need your people. Aw do well speaking of your people. You've so you've been back in Nashville. You've done amazing rates. You've done all of these things and you said I did not know that you guys dated before you left Nashville. But now you're married to Michael Hobby. He's the lead singer of a thousand horses right now. I need to hear the whole story. So he We met when I he was twenty. One Nas twenty four owner okay. Okay okay okay. Juniors Pumas there's like five or less like I okay glad you set us straight. Thank you Yeah so we were. I had known him because he was in music. He moved charity. Music News Eighteen. Yeah he always knew he wanted to do. Music and Met Him because we were working with the same producer for a minute and I saw him in the studio and like the first time I met them he and his bandmates were sliding down the hall and their tube socks like a little risky business. Nisa my wild like unloving rock and rollers and that's literally the first into the museum just like sliding up and down the hallway and their tips abso- so we're you like that's the man of my dreams are Kinda why I kinda like. They were fun. Thought they were so young. When when you're in your twenties like a twenty year old when you're twenty three or twenty four is disgusting? It makes the biggest difference that age difference. Yeah sounds like who I would never even consider that young grows so no I didn't even think of it romantically and then although I was boy crazy were what do you mean goodness. I just loved boys I wanted to make out all the time I was looking for. I mean I was like keble crazy. Make out band yes So are you dating a lot. I don't know it was dating. I mean I didn't know how to date eight. I was a terrible data because I was so nervous to let people in that way. I was like super scared to like show people who I really was like. Oh my God didn't see the real me and they're not going to like me because of my twenties you know you're just so insecure not willing to share who you are and I I hadn't I hadn't done my therapy. It hadn't gotten to the core of my issues. Yeah yeah is hat all my issues my insecurities and all that I was like. Oh no I'm just going to be mean to people and see if they will fight through it so it's kind of like hard asked to guy's not cute. It's it's just dumb but there's some guys like that I mean well okay so then what happened not really. It didn't really work out for me. I think a lot of guys probably they thought I was crazy. Yeah but then with Michael. What happened with him was I never really romantically thought of him because he was younger? And then a one night we. I was out at tin roof. Because he's going to tin roof. All the time Nashville. Yeah and it was like the hot spot hot spot. Yeah I mean it's still it's still hi everyone so young. I feel like the oldest person alive when you are are yeah. They're all like twenty one. Yeah I'm like I'm their same major. No I'm like fifteen years older than all of you. At least it's actually sad when you go in like you feel like that pathetic person. Yes I haven't actually been in in maybe over a year. Yeah I know so there is this guy there. He was trying to flirt with me. And he was like weirding me out and I saw Michael Michael. He was there with a bunch of his friends and I was like. Oh my God I know you so I was like wanting him to like help you out me out. And then we ended up talkie and he was so fun and charismatic. This matic and I'd had enough drinks by the end of the night and I was like getting ready to leave and he didn't come with me and I was like I went back and I'm like are you not gonNA walk me up out to like my a cab. And he ended up did he walked out there and I was like well I mean. Do you just WanNa come home with me. We didn't I was I was a good girl like I was approved. A DOC I wanted to shake up in the night. He can't go snuggled spend the night and the next day I woke up and I was like. Oh my God this is not someone. I was thinking that I wanted right to be with but his he just made me feel like I'd always wanted to feel. His conversation was so funny and charming and he was so easy going and had such a great attitude that we just started dating that day and we dated for four years never broke up and then you literally just move to Austin. Yeah because I was in an insane person loves me like I poor guy I think we really we. We went through it on our front end and so now like our second half like we had a two year break up and then then we eloped in the Bahamas after four. Four months of back together and our marriage has been great. Just easy because we've already dealt with all the crap like went through all the things in our twenties together and and now it's like okay. We know he knows my crazy. Non really not even crazy anymore. It's like I worked it all out what you said you went to therapy what was like the big takeaway for you you. We'll especially with dating. We went to a therapist together. Okay if anyone wants a great therapist in Nashville Susie and she's at the estuary. Okay great she a good couple therapists. Yes she was dying for US zone. Cheese have you done individual therapy. Isn't it such a different. Because I did years of individual well and I was like I got this therapy thing down went to couples and it was like Oh shit is so different and you learn so much about yourself in such a different way. It's so true. Oh yeah so. What did you teach you? She divided our personalities into three chairs. Okay have your wounded child. Yeah you're middle manipulator bellator and then your truth chair and so you're middle chair. MANIPULATOR is trying to protect your wounded child. Okay so whatever ever and it doesn't even mean that like something terrible happened in your childhood just whatever your personality has tucked away as painful moments in your life that you are insecure about trying to hide trigger. Something whatever you've gone through that hurt you as a child that you do not want to crack open and you don't even realize you don't crack it open but you don't want anyone to know and it's like pain. Yeah so that's your wounded child and then you're middle chair. manipulator is doing every single thing it can to never let those wounds opened and then you have your truth chair sitting over here. That's the truth truth. That sees it for what it is. It doesn't take any of it personal. So what we had to do was we had to explain how we were feeling about each other and the problems that we were having having an how we were viewing our life relationship and we would have to shoot. Make US sit in the chairs that we're talking so we'd have to if if I was like talking about something that I don't even I can't remember what our issues are back. Then but like she'd be like okay. You're speaking from your wounded child so I'd have to go sit in my wounded child out and have to like analyze what that pain is. And why I'm acting out that way and then I'd have to go sit in my truth chair and say what really he needs to happen. So it'd be like your wounded child is where it originated so it might. It might not have even really been about. Michael wasn't probably most times. Yeah God isn't that's so interesting. I interviewed someone the other day. And they said We recreate all the old wounds or whatever in relationships like we subconsciously seek seek out relationships that will recreate those wounds. Which I think is setting is comfortable? I guess yeah you're used to it and I think subconsciously we're trying to heal the old wounds. Said you're hoping someone will come around and do do it differently but really it's the same pattern totally so unless you start doing your work like you guys did. You'll probably just repeat old patterns over and over and over so you'll therapy to love therapy. I think everyone needs to go to my God. It's for me. I'm like when I hear people being like I don't need to therapy. I'm not messed up or whatever I'm like nobody you don't have to be and we're all like affected by whatever it was like. You said it doesn't have to be some traumatic terrible thing your experiences shaped you. Yes so just go talk it out. Talk it out. I know so. It helps y'all to do. I love that three chair thing. How would you get to to your truth dare chair? Did you have to just feel so safe because when you actually sit in your in your wounded child or your Middle Tier manipulator and you're realizing what you're middle chair is doing to protect your child your wounded child when you actually have to sit in those chairs in like say eight. Oh you realize that it's not the truth. Yeah because it's it's just It's not as she. It's not a calm. She said anything urgent is not real. Either that's good like if it feels urgent. It's not real because the truth is always. The truth is always the truth. There's no urgency with the truth. So it's it's like you feel like I don't know if you just if there's crazy energy around what you're saying then it's not the truth because the truth calm the truth is just what it is and so what was your question. She just had a baby which culminated rain baby brain so yeah the League League really. Well I'm Kelly of my house. I have on sock over stretch pants. I have shirt that I slept this outfit last night. Actually the last night slept in and built manifest that shit which is also David Hasselhoff on my. I'm just like like really killing the game. I can't even remember what I don't either. I'm sure it was great people. We'll just this uh-huh therapy go to though. How do you get your truth chair? But you just said because basically. You're realizing that it wasn't even about that person or that it's done and once you're sitting the other two chairs and you realize that you're acting spasm. Yeah and then you have to go sit in the truth and she makes you tell you. What the truth is you have? Even if you don't know the truth is and you reluctantly. Don't I wanNA give into it. You finally figure out what the truth is to help you get there but you know it. Because it's the truth isn't urgent. The truth isn't angry. The truth breath isn't really like sp as the jazz and afraid right truth is just calm and knowing you know and so how to get to that place other chairs aren't there so if you're feeling anything but that then you're not you're truth the truth. That's a good one. You want some therapy talk. I'm here yet. Yeah also that obviously says a lot about how you Michael Place you are now. But let's talk about Sonny's we just talked about the baby. So how'd what does she knows me weeks two weeks so yet to to nine weeks tomorrow how has it been is an amazing. Yeah Ah I wanted a baby so badly. Yeah so it has been. I had her when I was thirty. Six years old and so I feel like I had tons of other friends to look up to. Yeah I've never been one. He's wanted to do anything I I'm not trying to pave the way. Yeah I want to see people pave the away I want to study learn analyze. Talk to them. I think that's why podcast an interview people because I wanNa know people stories so I figure things take the little pieces as you like and use them yet because I'm just like the world is so big and overwhelming to me. I need guidance. Yeah so parenthood always freaked me out. Although although I always knew I wanted to be a mom I just. I wasn't ready for a long time. And then it hit me like a ton of bricks and gosh and we had. It was a long journey for us. We tried tried for a year and had a miscarriage and chemical pregnancy. And like I never knew emotional. The journey was because you literally try not to get pregnant right and editors and then all of a sudden you're like wanted any like so hard. Yeah a lot of the time some people would get pregnant. I try it is easy but that just wasn't how it was for us and so it was really emotional really like Really hard year but it gave me such gratitude and appreciation nation for four th the gift of sunny and to carry her and have her and be able to get pregnant. Because I don't know if I would have appreciated it like I did because I would've just I thought it was easy and it's just not an such miracle. Did you have to do shots or anything. No we were about to have to prove we are gynecologists. Is like okay. You're thirty five at the time right trying for a year I had done around climate. which is fertility drugs? That like helps you ovulate more and we had gotten pregnant and then miscarried and then she was like your body really needs a break now. Because it's been through so much in like just so many things and so we just kind of like took it off the table. WPRO our like okay. You can't even get pregnant like we got a got to take at least three months off and I stopped checking ovulation because I was like on On a clock like checking my ovulation like trying to make it happen and I do think that stress does not help. No I know and everyone's like don't stress but it's like how would you not not. You don't want us then all of a sudden when it hasn't happened it hasn't happened then because in the beginning it wasn't stressful great and then all of a sudden like six months it happened. We'd had chemical pregnancy. It was bad. It's where you get pregnant early and it doesn't stick like five weeks he'd never like It never implants but you'll get a positive pregnancy test so it's like it has the sperm and egg have connected but they just don't in their as your uterus. Yeah so how did you figure out that went away. Because I took a pregnancy test and got a positive and then I started my period like a week later. A No it's so sad. It's really the mind part of that. I mean like the emotional thinking about it. I want it so badly but I mean there's just a bigger picture to it all you know and that's the one thing that I have learned already with. Parenting has like is such A. There's you gotTa have faith with with having a child with the whole process because it's just so much bigger than a human and we can't control any of it you know all you can do is just try to be the best parent you can be the best mom you can be but like Sonny's her own person she's on her own path and I'm just here to help guide her. She's not not mine. My possession or anything for me to like hoard. I just have to help. Guide her. You know and she's learning that so quickly. I think with in the process of getting pregnant and may release control early. So I'm grateful for that and I think just when I did get pregnant. I had a lot of anxiety during my pregnancy because I was so afraid of miscarrying the whole time and I wish that I wouldn't have had anxiety but it's just so hard your mind is so is so crazy with the mind will do you know especially like once you've lived through something it's like you keep replaying that fear and so she came it was we had She came into this world. It was literally the the most amazing day of my life and Michael Sube like just meeting her like knowing that like she is the one that came here and like I kind of believe that she chose us her parents and that she wants to have this earth experience in that I get her mom and Michael Gets to be her dad and so it has just given me such a joy to be her parent and her mom and to get to walk this walk with her. So even though it's exhausting and I'm tired and I look like a Hobo half at the time I mean literally terrible every day but I'm so grateful that I get to have this privilege because I know it's privilege and she's just the sweetest little thing she's so cute smiles now. Oh that's the Sassy me when I start reacting acting that way as a precious thing. What's the difference between people who prioritize self care and those who don't is it finally only fitting into their skinny jeans? Is it Vanity Superior Willpower a fat bank account at my body. They know it's none of those things. My Body understands it. True Wellness. Honest comes from a focus. On the journey itself the fifty minutes punching bag instead of scrolling instagram. The Yoga class share with a friend the ninety minutes of peace for the new mom and her hairdressers chair. The well earned massage after a crazy month. At work my buddy knows that health and wellness are no longer about checking a box. 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Like I'm not like this like baby guru person so it's an awesome to have the INSTAGRAM podcasts community. Because so many people have so much knowledge about everything so you ask questions and you get lots of great answers. Yeah so I've been doing a little mom chat and one of the last first podcasts. I did was on her. Burning Story and I said someone told me that when you have a child your heart literally is like on the outside of your body like it just. I'm still like hormonal hormones right now too because I'm reading my exit. We're like crying together. Yeah they're saying. Do you think that's genius. Yeah good decision thank you. Oh God yeah about your hormone shots not yet. I'm not to the shots pills. But I've literally been crying at the job of a Hash crime podcast. I'll let it out through a moment. Those folks really is. I know I've literally just been letting myself self do it because you don't really have a choice. It's like what's happening to you. What are you GONNA do? You can't keep an eye you gotta let it out so much better. It's like a release. Yes oh I'm so happy for you that you're using. Your big decision is a big decision. It's been a long time coming excited. I turn turn this on me. She's a podcast. Hosted is obviously they. I just I've been thinking about it for about a year and I just got to the point where I was like what you're saying. I got to the place where I was like. No I really do you want kids like The the idea of the choice not being there anymore is it really made me have to to look in the mirror and be like do you want kids or not I do. And so Yeah I had to just decide. This was the best route for me at this point. And it's been sorta scary but also kind of like powerful feeling and relieving at the same time so I think that is so awesome that you are just in. It's going to give you such a peace of mind so too and it's not gonNa make you like to rush into a relationship right skits pregnant. It kind of feels like they're a good match but like they're not really really who you want to be Your Baby Daddy. Right you know totally gets it. Took that pressure off. Because I I was like I gotta find a relationship and that just have a baby. Yeah and how do you like that. Like gossipy gossipy. Like let's also you're probably GONNA not end up with the right personnel. I don't WanNA settle and it has to be the right situation for me and that's always been the case so your the new things to just let it come when it's supposed to come. Yeah just that's kind of been deal for me and so That's what I'm doing. I'm proud of you. Thank you thank you. It's a big undertaking. Because you got it hasn't been so what is the process so I started on these pills. I and now this is disgusting but I just I'm gonNA tell everybody but I have to do suppositories twice a day like vaginal suppositories which is disgusting. But Do do that in a restaurant. Yeah that's what I'm I'm Yeah it makes me. That's the thing that's made me really weepy. I think I literally if someone in this is of course like my busy with higher to Oh. I didn't even think about that. I've been really tired but I thought it was. Just because I've been working so much I mean think about it on it but okay so we be maybe a little irritable and then yeah start shots December six spends two weeks shots. Two weeks shots. I feel like I'm crazy person in the belly I think so. Yeah and then you go in and they were saying eggs whatever they can get ya ask go under to stay so positive. Yeah I'm trying to so great and it's going to be so worth it and I always think when you feel we'll call to do something right thing the right thing. It's like the truth. It's got peaceful like. I know this is what I'm supposed to be doing. And now they're kinda sucks. I'm SORTA alike but it feels like even the bills right. Yeah and you're just like this is a season and you just do it and that helps me to hear about sunny and like you appreciating it because I understand that they will appreciate your because you've had to go through a lot and it's thoughtful like you really had to think about what you wanted and how you know like how Far You were willing to go to get it that that makes it even greater probably I think so. I think honestly anything that can give you. Appreciation life and I've realized a lot of times appreciation comes from the hard pain on the front end. You know and it sucks while you're going going through it in like I'm hormonal. You're on herself. which may like it sucks like having to go through it and yeah it it hurts your heart in some knows it breaks your heart? I know we're literally break your heart but to get your heart broke open because you want something and you have so so much love and your heart. Yeah or something that you don't even know exist yet like a child and a partner all that it's like you're willing to go through all this because you have have this big spot in your heart for it and you know that you want it so much that it just like when you do get it however it comes because I believe that God will not put that desire on our heart if it's not gonNA come so even ends up where you adopt kids or or write or children or whatever your family comes to you. I believe that not wanting a having the strong desire going through the fire for it you do like your love is so big and you have such an appreciation that you wouldn't have had otherwise I think I do too. I think that was for me like why ended up just saying okay. I just got to try this egg thing even if I don't get a ton or even if it's not EXAC- The outcome that I want I knew that I had to try every avenue to have that piece of like that you did. I tried so maybe there is another route for for me. Maybe it is adoption. Maybe I'll be a step mom. You know like whatever it is but I do know that for me. It was like to cross off all the things on the list and I know that I did on my part. And then we'll see what the universe has in store or you're not zone you half asses life. So you're don't you're like you're not going to take a shortcut and you got right right in your life where you're like okay. I've hit this time period in this lion. where I either? I'm GonNa do this freezing out thing or I'm gonNA miss this chance. It's totally you can't do it forever so you did it and I love that about you. Kelly is like I'm going for it. Yeah and whatever happens happens yeah. That's so exciting. I love how you turn this into a podcast interview for me speaking of that. Let's talk about the real podcasts. Because this is what you do on your podcast everything everything is based on you just want the real conversations with people right so tell us a little bit about get real. I think it started because I I like I struggle with self worth a lot and I think a lot of people probably do breast struggle with self worth a lot in my twenties and I was looking for validation validation and just I think that I always thought other people had life figured out maybe more than I did and that people they were like special people that were just they just had this like this like very magic wand that had been placed on their lives and every perfect. Yeah and I think that's why I wanted to get an entertainment industry because I'm like. Oh that's where all the special people are perfect. You know and so not true now. It's completely eft up. Those were all like just looking for something. There's amazing people people here. Actually I think everyone in the entertainment is beautiful souls but I started interviewing people and I. I got to know people's stories and when you interview people you get to ask all the questions that you member one to knowing you're not a total creep for doing right. You're you're awarded for your curiosity all of a sudden. I've had all these questions my whole. There's a fly that it's just circulating us. I mean it is wanting to hang out so hard. It's probably trying to comfort us. Give you a hug full of maggots. So I started interviewing all these people that I thought were so just perfect and they started sharing their life and their journey. And just what you said. You've realized that everyone that you've interviewed. We just had like a breaking point or like a totally moment where everything's falling part and I just started realizing that Gosh like everyone is like this everyone. Everyone has major highs major lows. Everyone has insecurities they've had to overcome. Everyone has like major failures and like I started realizing I didn't have to be afraid. Afraid of not being perfect you know and it was freeing and it just allowed me to actually start being way more real and share myself even more more than ever because I had opportunity doing all these interviews to really get personal gets no people on a deep level and see that everyone is going through struggles. Wasn't everyone has things. They've had to overcome and low and has it figured out. No one. Has it figured out. So it's given me just like total release to be completely honest list with everything and I'm pretty much finally sharing almost a pretty much anything because I'm like everyone is going through this. Everyone is is going through personal things like. I'm not going to try to be perfect because no one is. And that's not what helped me is hearing a perfect person facade. I want to hear the truth truth because I want to. I want to know that we're all in this together. And then on one. He's a total nut job. It's the connecting piece. You talked about earlier when you traveled. It's just like hearing people's stories that's for me when I'm like. Oh my God even what you just said. I struggle with the same thing I sit here. I look at you and your beautiful girl. How did you ever struggle with self worth those huge? I mean I still struggle to name and people think you if you are like working a lot or posting pretty pictures on instagram that you don't have those struggles our goal. Is this just not true but it helps me to hear that. I'm not the only one you know. Yeah what have you learned from interviewing people Just how much I like to connect with people. I didn't really know that about myself. I think I've done it my whole life just even being in the hair and makeup and styling world. That's what I do with my clients and I think that's why I've been with all my clients for as many years as I have But I didn't realize that's what I was just loving about that job because I'd get to be so one on one with them and then for me. It started on very cavalieri because when I started talking about being cheated on or even harder than our national is this I mean cause also it's like I guess it was still sort of embarrassing to me like I didn't really realize that but I had cancelled a wedding and done these the things that I didn't really advertise people. You know it's sort of maybe we're going to get married three months for my wedding cancelled a wedding. 'cause you default like it was the wrong because he cheated and I was like. I can't start a marriage that way. I don't know if we'll be together or not but I watched season one of this season. Two actually really love that show. There's this season theory. Yeah are still. It's still happening. Yeah there's there's still it's still filming coming but So yeah like you put that on the show on season two we talk. We had to talk about it because people were like. Why are you single? Like why and I for me. The dating journey has just been really hard after that. Like I've taken a had to take a Lotta time off dating i. That's when I started my real there. Oh yeah major trust issues and just like really look getting into why. I was getting in the relationships I was getting into holly like really hits. That Self Worth Button Leo. I did this happen to yet wrong with the you know. There's nothing wrong with you. It had nothing to do with me. That's what I know now that that took me a lot of years to get to and so there is that and then just talking about the exit and what that did for me though is being honest like you said it made me realize when people would message me or you know reach Out When I run into people in the street and they say thank you so much for talking about that. I'm going through the same thing or it's so nice to see a girl who I view as successful and whatever whatever yeah to hear that you're you know you have the same struggles as me like that. was I just loved that. And so that's what Kinda put into. My podcast is just like you said the curiosity step it also just connecting and isn't that like such a wonderful turning point to get to because I feel like for a long time. I wanted to have a perfect damage. I wanted people to think I was put together. I wanted everyone to think that I was like all awesome because I was hurting inside and I didn't want anyone to see that hurts. I'M GONNA keep this all like look and so good. I'm so busy like everything's awesome and then like exactly what you said doing this. PODCAST getting to to be vulnerable. Having people be vulnerable with me and realizing that that is really where the impact is is being wool in seeing the response of people on social media. Yeah it's like turn my social media into wonderful thing whereas more social media was it can be a compare trap you can fall through. Oh God yeah compare yourself now. I still have to take breaks sometimes. Yeah 'cause I do that I'll start and you just forget. This is people's best but you can't not life highlight reel but I feel like like being able to share real stuff has really helped me you social media and a different way. Yeah because I'll get tons of messages from women women who are saying the same thing like thank you so much for talking about that podcast. Thank you so much for sharing about that. Because I'm struggling with the same thing and I'm like this is where it's at. This is how we use this for good and now do you feel this way but I feel like I have. I don't want people to think I have a perfect lied shake. That's just not real. That's not who I. I still struggle with it. But it's not who I want to portray myself to be because unlike that's not a real person me exactly so let's just talk about the real shit Eh. I feel yeah. Amen reach all day long. Well so you can hear a lot of real shit on Caroline's podcast and get real and you mostly interview. Have you think you feel like you're branching out now but it started with the wives of country musicians because that's something you can totally relate to. What do you find like what's the common denominator amongst all of the wives? I feel well. I do think this is another reason. Why social media is great is because before social media the wives of stars were just more photographed with them and yeah I get to know who they were? Yeah they didn't have a CH- An opportunity to let their personality their interests their desires their passions. Be Known as much I mean still they could but it wasn't just as seen you know it'd be more dislike their famous has been their wife of XYZ. Yeah but now with instagram. I feel like all these women and anyone. In general general can have their own platform and use it for their own messages and whatever they WANNA put out there and I just feel like every single one of these wives a has beautiful hearts and they really want to use their lives to create to better the world to just spread Ed love. They're all wonderful women whether it's rescuing animals whether it's like starting clothing company whether it's volunteering and helping I children like it's the are doing something great with their lives and I feel like it's been so interesting to hear that story and also they've all had struggles like every one of them has struggles and they've had to deal with so much in their own lives and I I feel like it's just. Their perspective is so fascinating. It's so interesting because truly the woman standing by a man whoever the man is married to that woman is such a powerful person lately that it is the most important person in that man's life and so that's who he's going to sleep with every night that's who he's trying his deepest fears to that so he's bouncing ideas off of that woman is amazing amazing and jeeze influencing him so much and it's like who is she. What is her background? And so just getting to know all these wives. It's been amazing. I think people are interested. A totally thing. People are interested and I think it's cool because just like you said you always just looked at like. Oh the wife of so-and-so but leg what you said about their such strong women I mean I don't think maybe it's because we see this but I'm not sure that everyone understands what it takes to be the wife of someone either so famous or so successful people and busy. Yes that is a hard job yes to keep everything running amongst a career like that you know I have. All sectoral across wasn't really cool thing happening in country music in particular right now. I can't see for other genres but something about what's happening now is being married and having a family family is super cool. Yeah that's definitely happening. Yeah you know it's like something and Osama young yeah I work with all the Leeann Co guys. They're all married and proud to be married. Yeah totally it's not like back in the day like you didn't want to act like you're married because you guys like rockstar pursuing be single for the chicks right and it's just not that vibe five maybe it's like the the environment of the world like the how women empowerment movements and happening so much lately and like I don't know oh I don't know what it is but I just feel like being married and like respecting your partners. Such a cool thing doesn't make a man so much sexier so much I think it's just so much sexier Oh 'cause you're like you're talented. You're hot and you actually love your wife. Yoenis like stand by her. Yeah and like show off all the way the playboys playboy's Massa Q.. Not Cue that nobody I mean so you. So you're a playboy and some girl you have like a hookup. You get them for one night. The next night just left empty bill in anything and then that guy. He's not going to commit to you know he's going to be with you. Don't want to be. That's that's not that's not the goal I love that. Well you can hear these stories and more on the gate rail podcast. Where else can people find you? Instagram Graham Carol Hobby C. A. R. O. H. O. B. B. Y.. Body and then also you have a website right right I do. I need to do things with it. Always feel that way. I'm always like I'm updating my website. I'm GONNA constant state of updating like try to keep it up but now I'm like how did I get. I need any assistant. Yeah you gotta get an assist wants to win. This is my goal okay. Anyone listening wants to be an intern. Oh okay here. Amazing where do you find one. I got one but yeah oh can you teach me. Let's do this. Who knows how to do videos and can choose some youtube stuff? Because I would like to just do a little bit of Youtube. All the young kids can do these things these days by the way they. It's like I feel like another. That's another place Adama must I know it's like nothing to them. Dial Up Internet over there like over there just yes. Yeah so you need someone who do videos. I wanted the little youtube videos and then I would blog. I can put blogs. I just don't do it like if I could have an intern. Who could is laying all read the blog post it and then help me get little? Youtube videos edited and then really. That's it helped me link my podcast to my website so email you at care. Caroline Havi DOT COM. Okay L. L. Did your H. O. B. View I g mail dot com G.. Mill hobby gmail.com. If you want to be my intern and we this. I'm talking like one day a week. I got a baby so we got a two hour window. Yeah I'm not talking like much and I'll help you however you want. I don't know what you're supposed to do you. What's the trade you just like sign for for me? It was fill out this paperwork and sign off that. They're doing the work. Oh yeah so they need credit. My intern actually works for me now because she was so awesome so it could be the start of a great relationship guys. I'm Super Bowl. Yeah Yeah your fun. I mean maybe we'll come back on the tears. We'll work on that fire. Go get her. Who can like Hustle and get stuff done bass? Because I'm not trying to spend all day doing this I'll give you all the credit union young. He like a million hours. I'll say you did it. You don't have to come up with for as long as we can. Just knock it out. Okay we'll also. There's a lot of goals here. We're GONNA find Carolyn intern. You guys go listen to the get real podcast. Ask Her out on Instagram at carrow hobby. Thank you so much for doing this. I just want to keep talking to you. We'll have to do another one. We could just hopefully hopefully literally we should do another one and not cry the whole time or maybe. That's maybe people crying with us. Yeah purge of tears out today. I'm probably go crown away home or something I I know you've got to get it out man sad song and let it roll right. Well this is fun. Thank you for. You're listening by this. Is Kelly Henderson. You've been listening to the velvets edge. PODCAST I truly believe that every one of us has a little velvet and a little little edge so it's so important remember that's a be strong. You must be soft to thank you so much for sharing those stories with me. You can follow velvets edge on instagram Graham facebook and twitter as well as all of its edge DOT com. If you haven't yet go to apple podcasts and subscribe rate and review this podcast. 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