8 Episode results for "Jennifer Sullivan"
Ep 167: Dewy Dumplings!
"It's fat Mascara and I could talk again. What's up guys. Jen is back. I'm back. We're here. I'm a little tiff is taken instagram like story content. That's right. We Double Duty Right House tiff. Okay focus on the ring okay okay. I'm a little throaty though down here. Okay that's good. I want to talk about that. I can talk. We have some hot topics today one. This is like a bit of a riff of an instagram story that we did this weekend. Really appreciate all your participation travel hacks. It is the height of summer were all travelling what you packing and what is making life easy then we search for a cure for budny. I think we have a couple cures. One of them is bound to work for you and your Tush rush blemishes for our guests on that note number like that. I think she'll topic Nam Nam Vo Queen of glowing skin or like she coined the phrase dewey dumpling. She's a celebrity makeup artist and she. We had a great so much fun. If you don't know what to do we dumpling is. 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You guys know these are the best anti agers they smooth your skin. BOOST COLLAGEN improve cell turnover doesn't isn't do. It's pretty much does everything but I'm talking about prescription retinoids right <hes> there's a difference and they're hard to get to go to the doctor's prescription retinoids. They're stronger and they really like I mean they're going to give you the results that you want but the it is a pain to go to the doctor and get it so what I did was. I got mine onto your brightly dot com. Oh I know you did. How did it go so so again. You can't get the stuff over the counter. I just went onto your brightly dot com filled out a questionnaire uploaded southie and in a week or so Bam. My dear brightly came in and Tame in less than a week by the way I think my did to sorry and then you know what there's fifty years of research behind it. We know it works. That's very true so if you guys want to get a prescription retinoid without having to go to the doctor's office dear brightly dot com again. It's dear brightly dot com. Yeah Jabeen very busy this summer you have been. We've both been busy. What even I have been having a lot of a weekend trips. I have you go to the Hampton now now. She's got like friends every state then there was a Vermont country. We begin with your husband. I was like Youtube or moving up in the world sweating my ass off in in Brooklyn. Hopefully it's I literally park myself in front of like the A. C.. Every single night unless you're traveling unless I'm traveling we're going away next week to the Jersey shore yeah. That's a fancy keeping it real the Jersey shore and also says why we love you guys so much. We are recording two episodes this week so you don't have to go week without welcome okay so so. I have really gotten serious about what I pack like travel hacks because got hot down. Rocking is my least favorite thing in the world if I go if I have a flight on a Sunday. I have no plans on Saturday cassavetes U._C._L._A.. The case gets opened up stairs you for while thinking about it. You have to have it out so you can go get a snack. Get a snack <music> back down to do so. Tell me what okay I don't have everything else down to a science except I think have gotten better not science like <hes> with the beauty travelling okay so one. I've realized that you cannot bring these. I'm going to get like five things that I've lost quick quick tips. I now use a tiny cleansing embalm versus like a face wash because I've noticed that the face washes do not get rid of the Mascara and the last thing you WanNa do is be a house guest and get your Mascara Resin all over there like say. Oh meanwhile I'm the one traveling to hotels and I'm like Mama. <hes> I'm thinking about like houses gross though when when I leave like a Mascara wash cloth for some yeah yeah so it's it's double duty bomb what else twenty using I'm right now. I'm using a little natural. Pasco the honey one zero. Yes lovely men's minis mini so you can either make your own many as or like you know minis if you get from if you do beauty boxes. Jen I get a lot of Minnie's to work so minis miniature the name of the game. I also do not keep it simple. You know if you're traveling. Sometimes your face gets dry. Whatever from the air or if you're out in the sun now is not the time to try your like active products. I really bring the most gentle things kinky skincare skin-care skincare then I've also realized realized that shampoo and conditioner actually matter. I'm sorry took me really late to the game to realize that Oh my God you were using like hotel or whatever was I use that but I also realized that I was not taking care of my color. If I was away for a week or something in that I felt like it looked dull and brassy mind gets read but uh-huh same Dan. I don't fuck with disposable razors. I bring my billy razor. Have you ever had to borrow one from the resort or a hotel you literally we'll be bleeding. You putting you might bleed out hotel disposable razors whether it's at home or in a hotel I have always one time this is like I don't WanNa talk about the toy asked me to any questions I cut myself so badly as a kid that I still have a scar so I don't even know why I messed them ever again but just don't do it. Just bring your razor. Bring bring a little extra thing whatever don't do it and then like blessing and use a bleeding. All of your friends like towels really concerned about everybody's towel I like to. I like to keep it like NEAT NEAT and clean. I like it to be like I wasn't even there. I'm houseguests like that right. That's important yeah yeah very important. <hes> what else. What else do I have. Oh this is kind of like not sexy but I get ver- we've talked about how I feel about plane travel. I feel like everyone's bloated. Everyone's disgusting. Can I reiterate a point you had before just thinks you're bloated because because you're using plastic utensils you're taking more air never seen looked so confused. Thought Sports works make you bloated. It's just like the fast eating. You're not sitting proper sitting in a weird like longer schlumpy. Everything is the ruling and air with your plastic. Asahara air like a processed food that Lord knows when it was made or how long nothing to do with the with the president part of it. I'll give you that it's part of being. It's so oh disgusting so I like to bring gas medicine. which do you have one yeah? I like to bring a beano. Does that work I think so. I like to bring a beano or gas medicine if I feel really bloated. That's so funny that you did that because when you shoot a bowl like gas tax when you told me you wanted to talk about this. I was like like I have my travel tips and the tip number one has to do with bloating yet. Bloating is real like even if you're not on a plane I think even being sitting in a car for five hours for some reason like you get a little yeah. I'll stop so mine is I bought a thirty two ounce wide-mouth now gene you know like an old school like when you're hiking yeah and I feel that up and I drink that whole <unk> whole entire thing like before the trip starts and then eight ounces of water every I swear when you drink water it fills out your stomach so that the area where the gas is held has less room so it doesn't build up in their. I swear to you Dr Goldstein. I actually doctors about but water is like the most important but then you have to probably pee all the time on the plane or the train but say maybe then you have to Fart you'll do. They're not traveling. I'm so far like in a car. Someone look at this. You know I take it as far as the gas X.. Moment okay all right okay then my other thing is I cantor. You always look for travels is but I think what you can i. D- can't because I wanNA keep my consistency of the products that I know that work sure because people always say oh I break out when I'm traveling or my makeup doesn't look good. It's because you're using whatever you hat around. That was travel sized. Whatever so I bought this kit at Sephora like come fly with me or so yeah yeah and it. Has Those little containers have lasted me. It's been I think two years now and just keep refilling them. I even made little labels for the top US face wash with clear <hes> and you know they never get there so small island. We think they see them on the x ray machine like he doesn't even read liquid. I never even have to take it right right now. What I mean and then of course five minute face. I was just GonNa say we never talked about makeup. Yeah Charlotte Tilbury five minute face pallet awesome awesome things being discontinued so we're going to have to come up with another makeup palate another good thing sometimes. Lebron's just Lebron's are an eyeliner and Mascara and like a conceal your lip of choice. I think the broader can like give you a whole face. I'll go a multi stickler. Mercy makes a good one. That's laced taught rosie tone. Also physicians formulas coming out with a new organic line dot tinted lip balm when it comes out oh I've been using that on my cheeks. My Lips my eyes hegemony. I we went to the event on like one of the hottest mornings in New York so far and it was well worth it dreams gas. <hes> you know hit us with your tips. That was a really fun in story ticketed this weekend. Thanks but we're you know summers going strong so I was still WanNa know what you guys are doing to survive travel season so from gase traveled the butts row when I was going to be so happy episode and You keep listening in here names episode she says up to who you are and what you mean to tell the truth and the people that are listening so here you go. I- Jennifer gold sign have actually Jennifer Sullivan now plus. Did you change it for him so I ordered this kit. Where does all the name changing for you. I forget what it's called. Hitch stitcher hits quick. Okay hitch fix switch switch hitch hitch twitch. Oh hitch studiously. This is not a sponsor switch. That's hard to say hitch. Switch shoot need no because it's actually kind of complicated to change your name. I know I never did it for for a number of reasons but I mean just the changing and that you're GonNa Change. Your byline Jennifer Sullivan when I hadn't thought about that but I just legally I wanNA. How do you believe that that's fine. But do we have to introduce you. Wow Scour Jennifer so let's try right now and see how it goes so with Jennifer Sullivan Jennifer Sullivan have acne that actually my husband. You actually look Jennifer Sullivan really so. My best friend Laura you met. She said it looks like a mom with a Bob who liked brings oranges during halftime soccer games Jennifer Sullivan no you you're doing the name injustice I think okay. I think you look good. What are we talking about? Butts okay so I bought acne. Here's the thing it is not acne so I've been doing a lot of what is it. It could be one of two things things and I'll give you help for either them so the main thing that most people think it is my friend. Rupa is a dermatologist and Pasadena Yeah and she's like it's often full of colitis flick. It is also the same thing you get is like an on ingrown hair. It's like just said inflammation where bacteria got into the root of the hair follicle and caused a little red bumpy thing so if it looks like a guy's beard kind of version of ingrown hair like there's a lot of them in there not really posthumously if they're like cystic looking at me no not at their assistant if they look like ingrown hairs which can okay yeah. It's probably fully curious. <hes> so there's bacteria involves and then she suggested Salicylic a body wash neutrogena makes a great one thought Swan during the Best Swan and then she goes with <hes> Benzoate prophesied lotion as if it were acne on your but honestly it didn't work for me. Did it stain your underwear to return to where it can do that as well as the like. Bleach your sheets towels every so the thing I'm using now is actually rented recommended by Dr Dundee Angelman okay so it's called HIBIC hibic cleanse H._i._V. C._N._S.. Have you ever gone to the dermatologist and they use that like pinker. Read really antiseptic face cleanser before you say get botox or something okay. We're almost most like a surgical wash Adler. I had to get surgery once on my knee and they make you wash with this for the days in advance. Oh this cleanser which you could buy on like Amazon. It's like it like even though your doctor you can still bind the H._i._V. Hibiscus but okay hypocrites. I don't know if there's a viscous and it does kind of smell like that. <HES> IT kills staff off which is often one of the bacterias that's on our skin that can cause for us and then it also kills Peac Ness and other bacteria that you're used to hearing about but it is a wide grade antibacterial antibacterial cleanser so I don't know if you'll know the answer to this but is the bunny caused by like friction and heat or is it caused from the internal Alec what causes the Botany. It's like there's already bacteria on all of our skin. You rubbed a little near. The hair follicle got irritated. The bacteria got in. You got a little infection so people who exercise frequently we might not always said to me. Look make sure you shower right away after is so tight close but I'm sorry what clothing other than like a moot can you wear. That's not your underwear rests up against yeah what okay I think you and I've had this conversation before <hes> but what kind of underwear I had tried song. I've tried cotton. I've tried everything everything okay. Okay Okay so fully latest now. Here's the twist sometimes not flicky late us. It's Caritas is Polaris. Oh and that's the bumpy is that we get on our K._p.. See you guys. We've talked about the back of your upper arms. Sometimes your thighs. It's not quite as partially looking it. Just looks like it feels like chicken skin. He says some women either have a mix of both of them war. It's actually just K._p.. On their Tush and if that's the case bacteria is not as much of an issue. It's just like a Carrington overgrowth of like the hair follicle or the poor and so if you we're looking at there's no infection. There's just extra carrington cells from your skin so it'd be helpful to us like a lactic acid lotion war Guy Colic or Dundee was saying if you're not sure really really a derm has to look at it with a loop two now but salicylic does both things cause in what is a loop. Oh the member we learned. It's the doctors use them to look close up on your skin right right okay who told us that Dr Fusco okay a Lu. Su Salicylic was both antibacterial and also as an exfoliating so that could be a I you know you're I try but you're not sure. Is it ever just straight up back me. Not You know hereditary acne or like hormonal doesn't happen on your but we are okay okay last thing I'm almost done I had I did research. You're looking at me. Like what else am I recommended use Arain roughness relief. Oh Wow roughness relief them say I know that product so it has urea yeah and you re is interesting because it is both an exfoliating and moisturizing and a lot of doctors like that for Ketosis Marris Hoof. Why do my homework homework girl? You really did your homework. A couple pimples talk to me in a couple of weeks after I've been using the hip declines in the roughness relief to apply at night we play in the morning shower with in the shower and then the spot treatment from you cerain I'd been putting on in the morning and at night okay all right. We'll give us some progress eric do because I can't see all the way back there sometime so Vermont Jennifer Sullivan I no longer have acne soon. Hey guys it's just and Jen and we are here with a message from our sponsors space and K so so you guys might know that it's spacing case indulge summer event and with that means is that they're offering over twenty luxury beauty values. 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We need the holy holy grail of makeup removers and Bonilla has it. It's called clean zero. It's a melting cleanser bomb but also makeup remover kind of does it all at once. I love the original formula formula cleaning zero. It's only nineteen bucks. I like nourishing moisturizing my trask and all you have dry scam. You guys can get your own cleanser. If you go to Bonilla U._S._A.. Dot Com you'll get a ten percent off with the Code Fat Mascara again. That's Bonilla U._S._A.. B. A. N.. I L. A. U._S._A.. Dot Com and use the Code Fat Mascara for ten percent percent off we are here with Makeup Artists Nam Vo who is basically the Queen of glowing skin. You've worked with celebrities breeze like Chrissy teigen Kylie Jenner Rosie Huntington Whiteley. You're also I'm just going to say you coined the phrase dewey dumpling skin I did. I did that's you. Whoever says they think they came up with it? They're wrong. They're wrong. Welcome to Fat Mascara Nam then you for having me I'm excited to be we've wanted to have you on for a while. Okay so I I just want to ask you a few questions. We've been doing this. We just want to get to know our guests better on like a fundamental like real talk level okay right. What is your favorite ice cream flavor? You know what this is so oh basic but strawberry at Van Loon Oh Advan Lewin okay all right Fan Pretty Basic Stra van Leuwen elevates it yeah I dunno strawberries. Other is kind of a quirky flavor thank you somebody once said that strawberries for perverts. I'm not perverted. Okay uh-huh okay cats or dogs. What's your preference <hes> dogs for sure? Oh God you have defin- I used to Oh what was his name. It was <hes> his name was Baer. They are and he was a very drop dead gorgeous Pomeranian. Oh superpower status do yes almost as cute dot forebear. That's really funny. Okay most embarrassing song on your playlist right now. <hes> lucky by Britney Spears celebrity girl crush <hes> Oh my God Bella Hadid <hes> she's moulders yes okay favorite can help Polish color. I'd never say this right. It's like a blush pink from Chanel or Gandhi or Gami. I think it might be our origami. Origami the French or maybe a day like the fabric Organza like the French refer are gone and I don't know how we're GonNa do a fact Gotcha. Okay yeah get on it also appreciate a buzz from Chanel <hes> favorite place to go get dumplings. Oh <hes> eat okay so joe Shanghai for like old school dumplings and then if you wanna go modern <hes> what does that play red farm. Oh I've been wanting to have their duck. Yeah okay so good but it's ninety eight dollars. Yeah and you get daddy to pay okay all right so let's let's get let's get to work. What is dewey dumpling skin? It's the plant employs healthy and delicious just like a dumpling BEF- okay now. This is going to go a whole other level. I heard you got your love strawberry ice cream. I I heard you got your start in Strip clubs I yeah I always tell people that when I first moved to New York everybody like out go to parties and I would meet people and everybody was cool like I'm shooting Italian vogue. I'm shooting bizarre. I was always embarrassed and they would be like what are you do because I would tell you by. I was a makeup artist and then I was always embarrassed to tell a specially other makeup artists that were successful that I was a strip club makeup artist but now it's a part of my origin story green and <hes>. It's something that I'm actually proud of an look back and I just think that it's really funny and I always tell people like it's always good to start at the bottom in climb your way up you know if I was born in like a really wealthy family with like flawless skin. I don't think I would be who I am today and I <hes> yeah I was doing strippers and I learned a lot not about makeup. I learned a lot about men at the Strip club. Can would you learn they're. They're not that smart you. You just need to make them feel good about themselves but you were like backstage. You never went out there to no no no. I never did but I have to tell you. There are sometimes that I was sure on rent and I don't know if you know this New York. It's offline. No I never have but they were always wanting Asian girls. There's a shortage of Asians. Your burs okay so I I of course I because Ostra pursue. Is there like a mortgage we call them. Exotic dancers exotic dancers. I forgot there was a name they were you know like four has cast members per se. Call them something else off to think about yeah so. You said that they ask you to dance. Oh yeah many times what I went to the job interview they thought I was burnt. He wanted to take a digital music. My top and I was like no Sweetie Sweetie. I'm here for the hard work those long hours. I Bet I would come in at four thirty. PM and leave at four five A._M.. My because you don't get paid until the key strippers are done at the end of the night and cast you out. They tip you out late you but you pay the if you work at a strip club not only do the strippers pay. It's like working got a salon and running a station. I pay the house interest every many moons vows did you would you always cover your chair or your whatever it was had mean. There are some I mean. It was pretty pretty like decent money but I didn't know this also stripping comes in seasons so like so the the big markets are like Miami Vegas and the New York so when New York orcas cold you go to Miami then I don't know what the season was but strippers on tour busy busy in New York like summertime off when every sweaty or Oughta be a holiday like hall of it just like boys going out after work like cutting out early thing so it depended on the season okay so now what's what's the difference between the glow. You WanNa Eh glowing makeup. It's it's just it. I think that you know I always say trends. Come and go like whatever even like probably highlight important is. GonNa come and go but ah no matter where you go in the world. I saw this years ago when I was a kid you know like in every culture beauty is defined differently like in Vietnam where my parents are front. They liked dinner lips and when I went to teach a class there everybody drew smaller really African tribes wide noses are beautiful but the one thing that's considered universally beautiful. Wherever you go is beautiful clear their skin <hes> so that's the train that I will be writing on Okay Okay like glitter backup. So where are you from. I'm from San Jose California. What Silicon Valley Okay yes wanted to picture the whole thing but there was no it was more matt look for the dancers but glitter choice for a man leaves the Strip club. That's the theory. There's no glitter obviously frequent. Is it like a body sheen. Is You could put a body. She met no glitter. Glitter gets on the husband's so my gonNa leave any evidence and did you know another thing. I should be giving all the secrets but no headed on your credit card when you pay. If you go to like Penthouse it will say blake like steak house. It looks so of your wife and your credit card statement. Oh that funny or stain the steakhouse yeah flakes Sakon ten which is really good steak house by the way what are some great like body highlighter that make you look really banging. Sell you late on the okay so I'm obsessed with soldiers Janeiro. Oh Oh yeah it's beautiful. I also so my secret concoction is I take soldiers Janeiro and then I do too pumps of the new Huda highlighter explain what sold as Janeiro narrow bum bum you could buy it at Sephora and it was really good it smells beautiful and it just makes the skin look like wet juicy and leaves like a very very fine shimmer not glittery but it just leaves an photographs beautifully okay so genera and the Huda Huda luminous something drops I just drop like two of the dark drops and then like the medium <hes> soldiers Janeiro and it's like a dream come true and strippers. You'd use us on the strippers on the entertainers. Oh now I use it on back committee's because I did have a budget. I wasn't getting things for free like I do now. So I think back in the days I used to use birt's be actually actually they make it like a pearly pearly lotion and that I might like beat some browser into it okay back when I didn't have free <unk> products like I do now but now that I get everything for free then I- drenched people in fancy things was this years ago. You were working. There like maybe eight years ago eight years ago. Strippers were covered bird species the I love it. That's that's an interesting and then the law mercy a <hes> you know how she makes it translucent powder but there's a like a glory version version of it like A. Oh Yeah Yes yes. That's really really pretty okay all right so okay. I know this about you because we've talked. You are notorious glorious. Probably people who work on set with you for your skin care before makeup like you won't even start doing makeup for like many minutes into a shoot yes so what is is it that like you do and can you walk us through how you PREPA phase and why that's so important well first of all it depends like if it's a red carpet then I'm not going to drench you with all this oil and serum and layer but if it's like a typical like glow porn editorial like what you see I lo- porn like what you see and then I usually I will tone. I'll massage assange like three layers of oil on and then I use the beauty blender what's up blotter audie and so the secret with oil is skin. Just naturally loves loves oil in like just you notice any oil you you put it on the skin and the skin just really gravity during set up so what I do is I warm it up like really really warm and then I press press cross cross into the face and then I use blotter roddy and take off the excess so you're not going to get that surface residue but the hydration is already priced into the skin <hes> <unk> <hes> and it really depends. I Miss Sometimes. I like to use their fresh concentrate. Sometimes I use S. K.. Two and it depends on the person like some people walk in like a lot of models as you know come from a long flight and their skin looks really thirsty then I have to quench that thirst and some people are like more in the oily side <hes> it it really is a case case by case scenario but it is a lot of skin prep and a lot of times <hes> I either use my fingers or like a refer roller and I- massage la.. We were just talking about refunds funny yeah so for those who don't know what our REEFA roller is because I don't think everyone does what how would you describe. It's a fancy Japanese roller so like when you use a jade roller I don't you could use inexpensive. A reefer roller has microcurrent that works with the light and you can't physically see it but I mean I just basically think anytime. The skin is like whether you put like a you know like a vibrating cleanser or you use a REEFA or us. You know hyper concered whatever anything anything that really stimulates a moves blood flow ruskin is good okay but you do that with your fingers exactly massaging like wash whatever floats your boat so what two people get wrong about working with highlighting products sure you see a lot of don'ts while you know what's interesting okay. That's all answer. This in a reverse way is that one of the questions people love up to ask me the most about his favorite highlighted. What's your favorite. What's your favorite and it's really not about the highlighter like if you look at my glow porn highlighter is just the Cherry on top of the whole look. It's like skin skin is already wet and so I don't put highlighter on dry fucked up skin. I put it on the whole look is completing. It's so like mesmerizing to look at but I think that's something that women get wrong. oftentimes is too much coverage like for me. I rather rather look like I have a couple of flaws or like you know a little bit of Malaysia than to look like I have a dry pancake on my face and I think the problem that women make a lot is that I think for hundreds of years. It's been going on that. They naturally you know like we all went through maxine. Fix Phase right where you people are still in it yet and it's like a tossup program because of all bad like you're addicted to it then if you break out you need it to cover the breakout and it's just like a vicious cycle you know and I think that something like Maksudul you fix. I love you Mac. Don't get this wrong. It's great for like stage makeup or like if you're a news anchor or certain things but if you want really luminous skin slapping flopping powder all over your face especially if you're over the age of twenty five doesn't really do anybody any favors <hes> and so it's not so much the highlighter but what's under the highlights about the whole look that by the time you put the highlighter on it just finishes and like completes okay beautiful luminous luck but I don't. I don't really think it's so much about highlighter because if if I walked around the street right now and grabbed like the most gorgeous high letter like I don't know Becca Champagne pop and I started swiping keeping it on every and it wouldn't look good and that's the whole look <hes> you're saying yeah <hes>. This is the thing about Dui that I've noticed. It might be an age thing. There's a a certain subset of women. It might be a cultural thing too as you were talking about. Vietnam <hes> shape lips. They still see dewey skin. They're like Oh. That's only right sweaty or sweating right. So what do you think the difference is between Dewey and oily and do you think this is also another trend that it'll just go back to. We're all GONNA WANNA do the nineties like Gwen Gwen Stafani Matt face so I think Dewey looks healthy. It looks like there's moisture like this do. We looks like your skin just drink. A Gallon of water oily really looks greasy and unflattering. It looks like you could find on your forehead so I think that you know there's like the place like right. In the I mean I'm more or on the oily side but I embrace my oiliness and I think that there's also different levels because you know people you don't a lot of things that you see on instagram is aspiration on its editorial and it's a little bit over the top but I just think that healthy moist skin do we should look like an extreme amount of moisture like your skin's do exactly which I should start every moment. Okay Okay so you know I feel like when I use high lighters or any kind of glossy products you know. Jen always talk about this glossing sticks that look great <hes> we'd like Chanel bomb essential love that I love the Siete. Do we stick oh I have. I haven't opened it yet. Oh my God you have to try it on my yes okay. I'll open it when I get home but if I use one of those sticks I I know that I have to pop it in my bag. If I want to maintain that look versus like you know a Charlotte Tilbury filmstar bronze and glow. I know that like I probably I am not going to touch up because it lasts so what how can you like you do all these dewey faces which ones are great for staying put and do we have to kind of resign ourselves ourselves to. You're going to have to touch up with some of them. Will it really depends like some people. Everybody wears makeup differently and for me. If my highlighter I do my make a once in the morning and I might powder like around my nose. If my highlighter kind of fades I just let it be. It's not one of those things where I look in the mirror and I'm like Oh. My cheeks aren't pot banging right now. Asu everything I'm obsessed with the new BECCA <hes> silk highlighting drops. They're gorgeous and then another so it really depends a lot. Sometimes I'll do a cream and then I'll stack powder but if you're talking about one of these sticky do six chanel bomb or like the Kevin equality glass glow that's not flattering with powder on top because because it makes weird texture hills a little so yeah it's it it just it really depends on your preference and if you want to be subtle or like burnt out some corneas are speaking burning out cornea us you do it on the rag. You are makeup makeup artist who I feel like has come risen up fame by doing your own makeup for other women to see yeah which I really love. Thank you and it inspires me do so to the two part question. Do you think that's helped your career. And how do you get so comfortable in front of the camera her all if you watched my videos like five years ago. I used to be like hi. I'm make partisan though Oh this is vitamin. C derived everything for me what instagram stories I think that once I started putting it selfie mode and I do look at yourself for the camera I look at my uh look into my own eyes and I just like talking to a friend. Nobody wants to hear professional professor teacher talk about ingredients. If I'm Mike Hey Dumplings this is I'm gonNA. Light you up and when I'm just myself I just think that that's when my career really grew what I was busy talking about being technical and being stiff and talking about ingredients radiance and like it was really bad for me but I think it's the stories really helps me warm up and I think instagram is a very interesting place one. I think it's very soul-sucking but number two. I think it's also like so much fun. I can literally go on instagram live and be like hey guys. This is my favorite lipstick. You could share and edit your life and you could be your own magazine and be who you WANNA be. My career has very much changed because like three years ago I just I I was doing editorial and I was hired to be on set and my agent had to go like praying that like if I wanted to shoot for like bizarre something they would submit my book amongst like Twenty Thirties where now I get to showcase my work and my brand voice and I get to be inappropriate and talk about Glo chasms and glow jobs and you know so many my my friends at age like my agents like now are you surged say that but I actually think people like it because nobody wants to be with like an uptight. You know somebody with a stick of their us. Yeah there are there are a lot of those feel like if there's a makeup ours out there and maybe there. You're an attractive woman. Let's be frank I love you like she's if she's not comfortable. The way she looks or he's not or they're just like a behind the scenes kind of person that got into doing makeup because they want other people to be beautiful like you. It's hard right there. You're looking woman. It helps your career because we put up on yourself Ariza. I WanNa look like that. Thank you is using all her tools. She's using what God gave me. I don't have much of a brain. I don't know what two plus a two as I'd love to write actually knows that like fo- in my sleep we offer strain so weaknesses so oh. I think it is an interesting time because I tell people all the time. I feel tremendously lucky. There are tremendously talented makeup artist that work at the cleaning counter the airport <hes> you know so so unfortunately this business is not only about talent. It's about timing it's about. It's it's about a lot of things and unfortunately in this stage it's kind of sad because talent isn't enough and I'm friends with like a lot of makeup artists and my advice to people when it comes to social media as like I'm not I love makeup by Mario. He's so talented. I'm not busy busy trying to make it by Mario. I stay in my lane and you know I tell people when it comes to social media. Everybody and their Mama wants to build a social media preference like so like I have a girlfriend you like had flawless skin broke out with acne and I was like go on your stories and talk about it. Talk about how you because when you put makeup on you cover. It looks beautiful. Tell everybody everybody about the products that you're using. That's how the brands will notice. You and you have to if you have if you're pregnant talk about that if you're trying to lose weight for your wedding talk about that if you're obsessed with cats like you have to. There's a thousand billion people to follow so you have to really be mindful about be genuinely who you are and just tell all your story. Do you think the time to be private like John and I have this conversation a lot. You know a lot of our peers. They put it all out there and like it works for them. It's working for them <hes> but personally like I.. I'm not like Oh. I'm never on instagram. I do so like Oh. He's my cat and like you know loving her cat Graham. You should like I love this TV. Show anyone else like do little things like that but I'm not someone who lives you know. It's not like people know what I do at night on the weekend like regularly so so I'm curious. Do you think that in the time in Luke Twenty nineteen you need to put that away like that kind of private personal way in order to be so. That's what you said because it's so second one interrupt you and be like what do you mean by figured we get to that. Keep going well for example funny as you should speak. I'm actually going on a two week. Instagram <hes> D- Talk Terry occasion. I'm thirty seven percent down on my screen time congratulations to me. Wow and you know what it is. I just think that it's I mike for me. I'm talking personally like I'm bombarded by. Everybody's instagram stories like I don't. I might do like maybe five stories a day and that I post Grad once or twice. I don't want to be glued to my phone and I moving forward. I don't know when the social media's bubble's GONNA blow up and I WANNA believe we've tomorrow. INSTAGRAM got cancelled. I would still have a skill any job so I'm taking it to two week break and I just really want to be mindful like for example I.. I don't open every single influence or box anymore because I don't want to bore my people. I want so Nuba. You just might not put it on the I just might not put I know I just want to be more mindful for example like I think my new strategy moving forward is. I'm GONNA probably like have on Tuesdays as I'm GONNA do like save money honey and on Thursdays. I'm going to talk about my like facials. It's like a lot because you you especially as editors. You know we get thrown that treatments. Vincent facials like every single day but I'm thinking for my audience. Does it help that every single week at a new visual. I need to be mindful to be like. Hey Malaza discoloration shen dumplings. These are the Greg Specialists Madan Hade aging wriggling dumplings the best like I think that <hes> it's just been like overwhelming with content product services influence our trips gifts and I'm tremendously grateful for all of it but I just don't feel like like throwing it up on social media everyday anymore so moving forward. I just want to be more mindful about what I post. I mean it should be natural but I'm just like I just. There's just too much much like yeah. I took two weeks off and I'm like oh I should post this editorial and then this article than this and Oh my God I'm obsessed with this mass and Oh my God this lipstick like I post about your fat. Mascara episode on your instrument will kill you. I'll be back twenty something. We ought to be your dumpling. Do you do you <hes>. Do you put your personal life on it or is it always like no because you wanNA know. Why don't you guys have husbands right yeah. Yeah I just got so like. Isn't it hard working. Yeah I hate when a break-up happens the unfreezing the families that this that and the worst part is I hate deleting photos of US especially keep photos of me. I know it right. I I had a break. I went back through and I what recent completely I also think that's weird when people just like a racy existing cleared. I had this conversation someone once I think that's like disrespectful to the person and like the time I want to be reminded of. It doesn't sound like a so great yeah. Actually it wasn't isn't even that bad. I just don't want to be reminded and God. He was sexy as hell but we see so you think she's on Rye all these. It's like crops really weird as you look good so but I just don't want to have to do that. Yeah and I think that you know oftentimes to maybe I'm wrong but what I probably was in a relationship a couple years ago and every day I was like man crush Monday my dream guy what is so lucky like with roses in bed that he gave me. I actually look back in if I'm really honest with myself as probably insecure about that relationship that's why had to throw it up on social media <hes> but now I just yeah it's probably relationship now. I'm not okay I but <hes> I'm oh like. Should we let them know my neighbor. We Bradley Cooper's your neighbor. Yeah we live in the same. What's the deal like what's happening with him. I don't know Bradley Your Agent Anybody. I think you've got to get in with his mom. It's kind of a thing with him right now. He's like a Mama's boy he brings. We know how to really into the Eagles too. So why don't you where I'm from Philly. You can talk later. We got a New Jersey. I think he speaks French too. Yeah I think he's GonNa French them all right. You love her. In beget toget- Bradley Sue woman heard married actually he broke up with Irena whatever NAM on looking at we on the sidewalk and he was like I'm playing watch it totally. You know what I'm allergic to alcohol. He doesn't drink. We both like to meditate. We live on the same street St I missed a match made enough in <hes> he could be your man dumpling nab it should you think should be Navajo or Nevo Cooper. <hes> I think Nam Nam Vo Cooper sounds like a power tool that NAM Bo Cooper. I like it. It's cute. I like it too. I support you in all things. Razzie convo things do we. I think like like I'm done. I'm fun. Yes we weren't under the gun. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. What happens with Brad. Okay I will. It's time to raise a one all right. You Ready Jess. I'm ready first of all I just. WanNa be little fat dumplings and live and Nambu purse forever the cutest. She is the best I have to say. I really enjoyed that conversation. She's on the way out the door. She goes like dumplings right. Yes keep Khloe Louis or something yeah yeah yeah yeah. Keep keep steel that signature. No we need look for awhile right now taking submissions okay so <hes> ready to raise a one here. We go candles in the summer so my thinking is I'm so hot even lighting a candle field thought it doesn't add heat to nine. I mean let's be honest. If you're on the Fritz. You don't WanNa go in late a candle in the summer but I still like to have a nice sent in my house. I feel like I know what you're going to say. No going no you don't it's not the the last summer scandal that was the Jo Malone Tomato Lee okay this summer scandals in new fragrance company mood cast okay. No I did not know that <hes> so the name of the candle is a luminary so there are these fragrances that are meant to evoke a mood a com which I'm all about but this is a summer cancer. What does it smell like white it grapefruit basil and Rosemary. Oh that's or basis or basis and citrus which is hard to get an A. Candle. That actually smells like it doesn't just disappear. That's a really nice and it just doesn't feel like it makes the room. Heavier does accent like a light candle because some some candles especially more woody ones or thick vanilla. Annella cooling in the summer is just too much just want something that just can't Hashtag somewhere candle I love what is your summer candle guys. Oh a lot of crowdsourcing. We're seeing this this episode but I'm genuinely curious post about my mood cast one and hear what people have to say. My Reza Wand is something I just discovered. I felt like like somebody who was never in beauty and it was like I need that that feeling of before I was going to be like I need that product. You try something like runs. Make us feel like that these. I knew I had that like new. Products Okay so is that my cousin's house and I took a shower in the bathroom and didn't leave tells behind because you're an amazing house guest. I I have to tell you I. I think I'm really good. It looked like no one was ever there but I did use a little bit of this cartilage shower. Gel now Kartteli sends US products and we hear about the new launches launches the new premier Cru the new Venus obey all those you know the the kind of big name ones by. I don't know the line through in through eight A. B. and definitely not days he accidentally yet not body care so this is kind of I want to call this like a a sleeper asleep or hit or like an unsung hero. I use the shower our jail. It was the most gorgeous smell. If the word fresh we've all decided does not mean anything but it felt fresh but at the same time soft there there's like <hes> there's musk in it and there's Bergamo I'm sorry who is your cousin sucking her showers code alasia. She's got good taste. She is so I used it and then it actually my skin's smell beautiful after I get out of it like you know when something makes you smell. It's hard to find a shower GEL. It does a body lotion shore but a shower Gel. It's not overwhelming so I looked it up online because I was like I need to know more of this product. I think it was only ten dollars unless I was a travel size. Sorry we got ever get the travel size because that's good. That's good <hes>. That's a good thing to keep us travel shower GEL. I don't do that. You don't want to trust. Someone's like weird bar soap. I bring my own Parsa. Oh no never use the youth bar soap. Curly's are going to be arse open. Someone else's shower away. I think I haven't been confronted with that yet but I just had that that image. You're bringing your own C._B.. Hey thanks for listening that miscarriage produced by our friends at will media you can check out our website fat miscarriage dot com for episode recaps. 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Ep. 306: Hair Repair (Bond Builders vs. Other Treatments) & The Weeks Beauty News
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Can you tell me and the show tyra. We spent good conversations with our listeners. Lately we've had a lot of nice little little little feedback back and forth. I believe it's what they call community. Oh yeah right. I never heard that term before i exactly. We've got a great show for you. Guys this episode Just get into it. I think we should we wait. No i want to know about your vacation. Our friend jen just took a little girl's trip to florida. Was it like the movies. did you like you know. Drink champagne in lake. Laugh all night with your friends. Oh god did you. Did you pack cute outfits and like hit guys know we each had a hat bigger than like jupiter orbit of the sun to hit on guys. We're married ladies in deerfield beach. Which is part of it like a married but like i don't know if you've been around the last year but it's exactly like a bump in bar scene where everybody's social with no inhibitions late you know. People are still wear masks and stuff. But no i just got a little aren are to my girlfriend's from college Down in florida. Thank you for welcoming me. Florida actually raised on this episode. She's from florida as well. It was just nice to get the sun with all sorts of protection and get the ocean and wash away my worries of this year. It was reloaded. yeah i. I'm really happy that you'd run what i know. Our listeners are dying to know what. Spf did you pack. Oh somebody gave me a funny comment about so lael to yours. Because they do a continuous spray in three outs. Which is really hard. And i do not like checking bag the issue with the continues spray as good as it is like. You need so much more than you realize. You can't apply that like perfume you know so. There are a couple of spots where i think i just was like spread spritz. I was about to say like is that a is that a a one like a one shot like a single use. Three out says lasted two days. Okay okay fine. Either way i apply which is the right way. It's only eighty minutes water resistant. This is the spf thirty from them. So every time you get out of the water you have to apply. And then every two hours so you know she useful information that. Say something a full house for each applications. Maybe this is only three applications. But i'm under an umbrella with the hat with a full sun protective clothing. I have like a big white gauzy shirt which offers white cotton guys as ps four. I believe why cut and gives you might be but either way so on top of the sunscreen. You know you're adding extra protection that way. I have to say it was really funny. Picturing you in in that element. Because i just don't piss you down in florida like oh god choice on. If it was me i'd be like we're going to the rainforest we're gonna be hiding all day. Yeah yeah. I couldn't picture ios. Like what is she talking about or did i say they'd flipping through like people magazine. Like what are these red regret books and talked about people. We went to college with and look them up on facebook to see that's fine at somebody ex-boyfriends to see how they've aged. Oh that sounds really fun. I'm it was good. And i was sunscreen. Don't you worry on actually my raise one. This episode is something. I brought us well on the trip that So we'll get into that after we do. The show jess is spearheading. The news for us. And then i'm going to be talking about bond builders and split end menders and peptide reconstruction the whole hair category like rebuilding. Your hair is very confusing. But we've got help from experts. So that's the show. Shall we get into it. Let's get into it okay. Okay guys. i'm going to do the news. And i realized i'm using this very soft voice and only doing that because recording at a time where my husband is on a call and i don't want to be very loud and i don't want to disturb okay. I'm going to bring down my voice too. Because i realize i'm a high decibel at all times. Maybe i'll get there with you. We are using that. Like npr voice npr. Okay but i it kinda suits news right. I just don't want. I don't wanna be like loud ever everyone. Can you hear me in the apart. I try really hard. But that's sort of my default away jess okay. So here is the hot news for this week or asa more news. Okay okay. maybe you've heard but a is in the headlines. This time it's got nothing to do with his famous ex. He is developing a blur. Stick with the beauty brand or grooming brand him now. This blur stick conceals raised. Our it conceals me. It conceals all kinds of minor imperfections. I am not mad at this. Because i feel like iribe has a fan base that may include people who are new to this idea of a cosmetic enhancement. Yes that is binary. Yes for men. Yeah the that is. Yeah that is that is genderless and us. You know and i love that. He's bringing this idea and normalizing it for a wider audience. So people are snickering. People are chuckling but is say that I think this is a great thing. Okay there are major changes as beauty so nicholas degen s. i hope i'm saying that cracked critically. He is leaving his role as giovanni she's makeup color artistic director at the end of jude. The he has been there for so long he has been twenty years out the. Ceo of jonge perfumes. His name was romain. Spitzer heap released a statement. Which i thought was really unusual. Because you don't really see this when Big talent exits a brand. It's just usually they leave and then somebody else comes in. And they announced their new person. mr spitzer said i want to. I wish to thank nicolas personally for his inventiveness in his major contribution to the success of givenchy makeup over the last twenty years all the teams that i wish him every success in his future projects they have not named successor. So this is big news. I think because nicholas or nicholas really helped shape the brands speedy identity. I'm thinking about all of the Lay prism collect my head. I was i- prisons prisons right like although those like you know. Rainbow presumes on the lipsticks. That were inspired by designer collections. There was a real cohesion between the couture collections and the makeup and also jammed. You remember they were one of the first brands to put black lipstick. Like you know in a really luxury package. I thought we were gonna say refillable because they also were early to the luxury refillable game as well. You're so right. You're so sorry. I didn't even think about that. That's big news. So i'm i'm interested to see who ends up there right so you don't usually stay twenty years at any brand as we've reported on we've had makeup artists on the show talk about this brand three years ago. Now i have a contract with this brand. So you're totally right eddie yet. That's like yet twenty years. Who's who's as long anywhere anymore. Okay now jen. Can i have a confidence corner. Oh yeah i. There's four corners so far we've got an animal one and assigned last week animal house and two corners. Left two quarters okay. I'm joking i think we confidence corners just for this week and then we cannot empty the corner go see. Cvs pharmacy is announcing the next phase of beauty mark. So what speedy. mark. Judy mark is you know how. Cvs is always talking about how they don't digitally altered their photos and this is what the purpose that they want you like in the name of health and wealth and all that good stuff They want to make sure that all of their customers have a healthy self image especially for the next generation. So this year. Cvs partner with is a big media. Psychologist dr pamela rutledge to conduct an online survey through the harris poll among women ages. Eighteen to thirty five and this is really coming like very. If you're like oh my god. They're talking about this again. I'm sorry this is really hot news. It's all about how women postponed will coming out of the pandemic. Think about how they look and how they you know. Sort of does regard themselves with social media I was a little disturbed but not surprised by the stats. I'll just throw a couple of years ago. Eighty percent of women who spent at least one hour looking at their own image daily agree that they feel inspired when they see unaltered images of models online. Okay more than half fifty six percent say they would rather give up something they love for a week and then post a photo online about which they don't feel confident. Wait like i'm gonna give up wine for a week events that i don't have to post a photo. I'm like a little bit less than happy with your is. It was put up of me looking like an idiot until late. Still have like like like. I couldn't believe that like you know. Yeah the photo is so important now. I know i was really shocked. Like i was just thinking what photo of mice lake away for like a vacation for a week away from you can put up a happy that you're happy. That need specifics of like what is it that they love hershey kisses or is it exactly. And how bad is this photo. Is it like like picking my nose and like someone caught. This is another way to quantify how much we care about how we appear online. yeah and then this one. I really this one. I didn't like One in three thirty four percent say that they are less confident in their appearance than they were a year ago i e before the covid nineteen pandemic. Okay but we're also tired and were the paychecks. It's hard to find like distress lake. It's not just looking at ourselves on screens. It's like it's i. I think it's everything. I think it's the the the steering yourself like. I haven't been in a social context. I forget how to like. Interact with people so that my confidence is down when it comes to approaching people you know what you should have seen the other day. I know you went out to a. I saw dior event. I was like oh god. How'd that go. Did you to talk to people that you know what i mean like s i think it okay good. I'm glad busy. I really liked that. They're they're spending time researching Okay speaking of research. There is blue light trauma so over the past few years of blue light damaged as a as a phrase has been accepted as another thing that we need to watch out for not here on. I want to point out. We have dug into this. A little alabama's it really. But i thought was really interesting that A brand or a beauty company is actually Raising an eyebrow so beers door is his major beauty company. Is you know really being a bit critical so Dr lager colby. He's the chief scientist of photobiology at beers. Dwarf says that quote public discourse has been character is characterized by a lack of knowledge scientific studies. They say that artificial blue light from digital devices does not damage skin because the limo levels emitted during use are not enough to trigger harmful effects of. He also says that through our research activities. We've managed to prove that artificial blue light emitted during conventional use of electronic devices. Is nowhere near enough to trigger harmful skin effects so this was in a press statement. So i thought okay. What is conventional us. Because i don't think he knows how much i'm on my phone and on my laptop looked into it. Yes of he spent entire week in front of a monitor. The sounds like a horrible week uninterrupted for a thirty centimeter difference distance from the screen and it acquitted to just one minute outside of a sunny summer day in hamburg at midday fires german company. So that make sense. yes so Take that as you will. And i'm curious to see how this conversation will evolve in the broader beauty company dermatological combining. I think they should also go to. Don't start worrying about a blue light protectant for when you're working in front of your monitor. If you're not wearing sunscreen and physical sunscreen accounts his protection we learned from. Dr morrow marcus. We'll just do that. You're safe yes Okay now a lot of us go be curious about a brand. We go google it. And that's how we do a lot of our research now the popular websites skin-care hero actually just did a report on the most brands across the globe and i was really really curious. Release up surprised to see what some of the top ones were. The ordinary is actually the most searched. Jen are you surprised now. Probably not just because they're ingredients because if you're searching for an ingredient i feel like they have a good search dexter products come up right away because they're all just like one ingredient to you know what i mean. Yeah i see that as they're not expensive so we'll some the other ones were dove which was is not a brand that. Is you know kind of touting trendy east hype ingredients but that was number two d by dermot. Sarah bay which that was not surprised about that because they've been so big on tiktok and then estee lauder which is just like you know not just but it's a legacy brand. That was really interesting. So yeah the. The kind of analysis that i read was that these brands are either popular on tiktok or they're affordable and then. I'm just anti my on commentary about the lottery. I think it's just you know it's it's been around forever. Yeah also anr advancement repair. I feel like it's been having a resurgence. People are rediscovering it. They like reformulate. I don't know have been writing to us about that products. Not really wait. Yeah remember me fed. The the analysts obsessed with that product to at like reluctant. I was like this is a good one. He would people if people are never a lukewarm about the product. They're either like you know complete devotees or you know they're they just don't mention it so yeah there go hard or it's quiet interesting and then finally this summer there's a new beauty. Collaboration that does not involve single popstar. Tiktok star former child star or fast food chain. The fragrance brand floral street is the first fragrance brand partner of the van gogh museum amsterdam. I thought that was so cool. I would love to see more fragrance brands partner with artists. I mean when. I mean there's been that in the past and if there was an andy warhol fragrance there was a salvador dali fragrance but to have a brand partner with a museum. I mean i haven't really seen this other than the perfume museum in paris. Yeah how quarries that really really cool so this starts an august. You do not have to go to the van gogh museum or soft to pick this up. It will be available in sephora. I don't have much many more specifics. At this point. I tried for you guys but we will eat a report more as i get this information. 'cause i'm just personally like nursing out hard about this but was thinking like you know what would it smell like was going to be inspired by starry night like sunflowers. We know elizabeth arden ended. That are the But like the possibilities are endless. Painting could have its own like olfactory moment to go along with. Who's self portrait. I luckily bobby lashley thought maybe knife. Yes but you know it's like thinking about like although you know museums that are doing so much. Try to get like you know younger. People interested in lake. You know people in in the museum's golic take a selfie or like here's a filter. I think fragrance is a really interesting way to get people excited about art so love this love that to look to ending on your lovely little like i was major and you know they said that degree was going to do anything for me. Look at me here. Look at me now. Very good thanks. Hey it's jan. Let's talk about your skin and your acne dark spots. Whatever your problem you could talk about over the counter products all day. But just i often say as you need to see a dermatologist. To get help and that's hard you know what does work getting help. Online with our new sponsor apostrophe were really excited to partner with them because they offer prescription treatments science back oral and topical medications that are clinically proven to help. Clear up acne. They connect you with a board certified dermatologist. Who will create a personalized treatment. 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Dot com h. a. r. s. t. o. r. y. hair story dot com use the code fat mascara to get fifteen percent off at hairston dot com. Okay jan so you know inner private facebook group. Ps you don't own talking. do go enjoy. The link is on her instagram. You can just go under the link trae. And then you click on neo. It's called raising Wand and by the way once you get in. You're gonna be so happy you joined because you can ask. Questions or group is really responsive. There's lots of good. You know conversation going on but anyway back to the people always ask what is a bond builder his bond builder. Is it. something. I get done at. The salon is just a deep conditioner. Is it worth it. They're kind of expensive. Like what's the deal and honestly i kind of like you. I was kind of slow to the bond builder. Like conversation so confusing. And they're not just bond builders there's also like split end menderes all of it is couched in this language of like pudding hair back together but but it's not that simple. I actually reached out to eric. Douglas sister scientists. We had she. That's what she goes by on instagram. We had her on a while back. We didn't get too deep into it. But what she wanted to point out before i tell you guys about these is the bond builder. Designation is just a marketing term at this point the same way like natural is just because a brand puts the word bond builders on a product does not mean. That is what i'm going to tell you about which is like a chemically bonded builder. So that's just you should be aware of but there are like three groups of products that we're gonna talk about and it's based on hair structure. Okay toxic john. Raymond he's my hairstyles. It's spoken wheel a wild on our show he was. Oh my gosh. She's an early episode but he was telling me about eighteen a product that yet so in in the telling of that he explained the hair structure. And i think this is going to really help you. Guys understands think of the hair as a ladder okay. The sides of the ladder are made of keratin. The rungs of the ladder are di sulfide. Bonds okay what you know of as a bond builder probably because of ola plex. They started that language repairs. The rungs of the ladder. The dice sole fide bonds temporarily. So let's start out with like the first category biometric biometric peptide repair. What's that you say. Is that a bond builder. Okay i could only find one product. That actually does this. And that's the k. Eighteen it repairs the rungs of the ladder and the sides of ladder so repairs the bonds and then also the carrington. They did that because it's so complicated. They sequence the entire genome of carrington. And then like tried out every single molecule to see which one would like sort of act like part of hair because you know hair is dead and and seal these things up so they found it. They trademark this Olivio peptides was eighteen chain. Peptide they call it the qe eighteen peptide so after you treat with this product you've permanently bonded. The wrongs and of the ladder and the sides bladder. Okay other breaks can occur as you wash your hair color to other services so you will want like review the treatment over time but the bonds that you make are going to stay with that k. Eighteen product will put a link on the block. Okay bigger category is the would like the generic them builders that you probably hear the most about probably because of ola plex it's the best of these basically. It's a patented chemical patch. That repairs the rungs of the ladder. Just the rungs not the sides. And that's the dice sulphide bonds. They built this like chemical bridge between them. And that's i'll call it semi permanent the companies. Don't call it that but it will last through multiple shampoos so when you go and you have to get this done at the slalom when you go like during your coloring process. They'll put in say ola plex number one and that makes sure that those ladder rungs don't come on bonded while you're doing the coloring you want some of them too. That's how colouring happens. Said the color gets in. Yeah exactly so number. Two is more of that laundry pair so after you color. Then they patch up all the rooms so now you have nice. Patch drums over a couple shampoos. This product will not stay permanently. That's why use those home products like alexa number three. I know those numbers are confusing and people throw them out and they have like a shampoo. That's four and another thing that's six but one and two or the bond builders and three helps keep those bonds strong still. It's a semi permanent bond builder. There there are other products that do this in a slightly different way. Redken bonder be three brazilian bond builder schwartz cops professional fiber plex and then laurie al professor professional smart bond which is actually in a lawsuit right now with all blacks over like patent infringement. So they do it in different ways basically ladder ladder. Rungs are getting repaired semi permanently with a bond builder. This is a lot of great information. I know and i it took me a while to figure this out. Because they don't make it easy they want you to take the day have developed though greatest thing that no other brand has done but some of them do work similarly so those bond builders and most those used the nomenclature bond builder is. That's what they're doing with the wrong. Okay here's our ladder it's got. The wrongs decides the last category. I'm just picturing it like a big oil spill over the whole oil over the whole ladder to just sort of like smooth out the ladder so it looks prettier if you will business. I'm gonna call washout split end menderes or cosmetic sealants. There are a bunch of these. Some of them are like intense conditioners which coat the ends of your hair which kind of seals temporarily some use ionica charged mixed Mixtures of polymers and that they fill in the damage spots. Fear her that you've been into beauty event. They're like it's charge to get into the damaged area. That's what's going on there. And some use ironically charge complexes that are the opposite charges so like there's different ingredients within one's positive ones negative. You put it on your damp air as your hair dries. There's sort of drawn to each other and that brings the like broken ends of the hairs together. Like magnus all. I think this whole category works like magnets. They stick together but temporarily. This is going to wash out after one shampoo jennifer feel like you have a second career as a hair professional hair educator. Because i think there's this really makes sense to you will because i think they're scientists but when they try and talk they just make it so much more confusing and then there's hairstyle which a style hair but you need to bridge the bond between the two sides and like make a goofy analogy was just prove my point. Exactly your first light of the powerpoint ohio. I hope this is working on audio for you guys to if this is making explaining. I think it would be better with visuals to be honest. But i gave you the ladder right. The latter was good. The let's finish up our last category. Sorry sorry teacher that sneakily will use the term bond. Do andy in these cosmetic sealants so really. It's more like if you're going to the salon for the treatment that's when you're really getting dystrophin bond building. These other products are more like these cosmetic seal and fail work differently. Have to look into what each one works like. I've tried a bunch of them. Allow them to me. Act like a regular old serum. Your hair looks smoother at the ends. Because it's you know sort of smooth down. But i do like virtual labs split in serum moroccan oil mending infusion. I know just tried them on. That one is well. I do like Pirozzi split ends salve south. Sorry sav that word always throws me i. I just don't say it. Yeah and then two of the ones. I really liked or not there anymore. I don't know what goes on at these companies but nexus and trust them as to make great split and treatments and i could not find them. Maybe they've been moved into another Product name but those are all basically cosmetic sealants. So i hope that explains it for you. these are great for people with damaged hair from processes from coloring. But even i've used k. Eighteen and i color my hair. But i don't Lighten it darken. It and i think it really makes a difference. So that helps you put links to all of this on the blog If i have an extra eight hours this week put power. Point's don't count on it. Oh my god. I feel like i'm telling you i could see a our show like on the stage like ear mike. That's what i'm saying like. Everyone like losing their damn minds. Ted talk yes like on breaking the bonds. I'm sure there's someone much better. No douglas should have her own gen. Okay justice year fines corner. It'll be all over it all. I hope that was helpful. Okay guys it's time to raise won- and this time we're talking hatta from orlando. This is hannah from orlando florida. And i want to raise the one to colt and kings jelly pink. Himalayan salt infusion. I have curly hair and so when it comes to texture izing products. I typically run the other way. I find that sea salt spray in any type of product. Like that just adds a lot of frizz and texture to my hair without definition but this stuff is completely different. It's really soft. And i use it in my hair with a curl cream air. Dry my hair in it gives you the most amazing added texture without making your hair frizzy whatsoever it defines your curls. It's really good. It also smells incredible. And it comes in a recyclable. Really beautiful refillable glass. Bottled looks great on my vanity raise. Want okay hannah. That was a good one that she's right the bottle on that i looked it up. It's gorgeous like you just want it on your vanity. Can i also say the fat mascara. Fam- came through hard last week. Val and i were talking about how i hadn't gotten any new raise. Awan submissions or over the course of the previous week. So i like. I wind a little and you guys came through swing in. I had like dozens and dozens on of them both in our email and on our phone number. So that's a good reminder for next week you can keep doing that. Email us info at fat mascara dot com. Send us a little voice memo or audio file of your raise awan suggestion or you can call us in the us. One six four six four eight one eight one eight to just tell us about your favorite products. We can share it with everybody else. Who listens to the podcast. That's how it works raise on a mascara want in case you're new to the new to the program. Are you ready to razvan jen. Yes kind of how it works now. Okay i was like it was a standoff was a standoff. I thought you were going to jump in so excited about yours. No it's really you know. Sometimes i wanna i wanna just kinda revisit something that we've talked about okay and you know i will for those of you who participated in our davin s birthday party. You might be nodding in recognition to. I'm about to preserve onto the love conditioner. Oh you also have a hair product. This is like a hair special word. Yes and those rug very aligned. So i was really excited when everyone had posted that they're goodie bags Davenas's as. I just have to say like you know you know we thank you like off. Line that your gift bag for all the attendees was like crazy generous. The everyone got like a full size. Love conditioner or anything shampoo. But i'm kind of like you know marie and i was like. Oh my god that's really nice and you know they sent awesome stuff too. And i'm very familiar with java's product twenty years eighteen years that but the love had to like re fall in love with the love conditioner to like really go there. My cousin had written me and she's a she went to the the thing like the event and she said oh. My god is conditions. Change my hair. It was going to do this again. It is so good. It's funny when someone else reminds you and you're like oh yeah you got see it with fresh eyes russia. Fresh i yeah. I use a little bit. My hair's Very thick in like you know kind of like sometimes some places its course someplace. It's not course beautiful. Beautiful air dried after really nice. So thank you for your generosity. Raise one to you but also like killer product love conditioner. I love that. I also have re redo the word course because i say that about my hair too. It's like i have friends that have hair. That looks like a horse's ponytail which sounds like a negative thing but it's actually a beautiful thing of course can be really nice keeps your thickness. We need a better word for that. Like i. you like. All these beauty adjectives and words always have a negative connotation. Yeah it makes it. Sound like yeah. You've got a problem. Why is your skin oily. Why is it just over moisturizer you know like like is moisture like you know like it's like the beauty marketers just like give us all these negative descriptions ourselves so then they could give us the positive thing. Oh yeah sick. Full full full. Yeah dense tech. Like i dunno. Textured words positive. I'm gonna work on that. In the meantime have a harris jason product which is a hat. Oh that's nice. Oh my god. I'm obsessed with this hat. my aunt. Okay so this woman that we used to write for me. When i was at mary clare monica. She has a cool newsletter called pretty right mind newsletter in harrow. Yeah so and she turned. She's like this hat. Looks good on everybody. So i bought it. It's from a company called your stylus says which is a big company. This one Fashion stylist and she like found this hat. And she's branded. It's eighty dollars but as people know for good hat like a good fashion hat. They're really expensive. Finding was that bad. It looks good on everybody and its brim. The i saw you wary so you i. I took a picture of it. I don't usually like post about the tag the brands i'm wearing but it's so good because the keep going into orbit. The brim covers my shoulders. And i'm pretty broad-shouldered for like my size. That's it's wide enough. It like you are not going to get sunburnt shoulders. When you wear this most people. I would say and it has a rounded sort of cowboy top but then almost like a like if you're working on a farm kind of brim but then the bottom has like two leather leather. Sorry jess i have to check on that ties that give it like a cat like a western feel so it's just like that like i don't know what's going on old school j. crew. I just woke up like this. Let me go out to my like farm in like pick some flowers. I love that but that hat. Statelet looks good on everybody instead thick straw. That doesn't let the sun through various lying. That down side is it is not like crushable. You're packing a hat like crushable. You're saying it is not not. Oc those has always looked so sloppy when you pull them out of the bag and then it's all like rumbled and you don't look chic anymore. I have heard on the plane. Where in the car to the lake. Or wherever you're going you could get a hatbox or get a hatbox. If you want to get a little bit like vintage about it actually got into my rolly suitcase and i like stuff stuff around it But your silence says. I'll put a link to the blog. That'll take you through the whole summer. It's real sturdy real good quality too. So i love as a once. Okay get your beauty sleep senior. Don't sleep in the hat. That actually would be difficult for him. Goes in the back as well. We will see you on thursday. We hope you enjoyed the show. It's your views and feedback. That help us make the podcast. Even better head over to itunes to rate and review us or email your thoughts to fat mass dot com. We also want to answer your questions. In europe products you love to share as one product view or to ask a question. Email us at the fatmaan skara. If you send it as a voice memo file we can even share your voice on the podcast. You can also do that by leaving. The voice message. Our phone number in the united states is six four six four eight one eight one eight two. 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Ep. 304: Blush Application & The Weeks Beauty News
"Hello and welcome to fat mascara. A beauty podcasts. Starring me jessica. Matlin and my host jennifer sullivan trying to juggle index yourself. Higher than me is what's happening right now. Remember it's a beauty podcast because we're trying to tell. I don't even know what you said. I don't know how to google index. Anything writing. Sure we're still doing no. I'm just just trying to switch it up. you know. it's getting in getting into summer. I am sweating already too. Hot too hot too hot too hot too soon. Do something caroline hirons. Does she not with the. We've talked about this. Yeah i. I don't remember what happened two days ago. So i i don't remember. Caroline hirons baseline like happy temp. Do you remember what happened last week. On our podcast. I hope you do well. Is you remember that we talked about going go array because some of you were kind enough to follow up with some friendly emails. I you know. I put a call at because okay for if you if you just dropped in. You didn't like if you don't listen in sequence. Fuhrer first time. Listener gen refresh refresh. So i was talking about a study in women in aging. Was this research study of women who decided to embrace their gray. Hair women the asian. Against because you just said it looks like it's no big deal. That academic germ journal women aging last swimming in aging. Okay everybody reads it so women that embrace their gray hair. Despite knowing that there is a social stigma against it for women especially with aging And why are they doing it. If they know that there's like other issues and also do compensate sort of for having gray hair by doing other things to make themselves appear or seem younger right so i i was really fascinated by this because i feel like this topic i think about lot. I've been thinking about this for a long time. Because i started. I started to die in my hair a few years ago because so much gray was coming in that it wasn't it wasn't enough where it was like. Should i go gray like that was not an option. I felt like. I was sort of when i say too. Young to grow grey. What does that even mean. But it wasn't enough where it was like overwhelming. Where if i lay go. It was like going to be a low were. The first graying was starting to. Yeah but you do think about it like when am i going to stop you know. When am i gonna kinda give in. And it's all kind of cool in fashionable to be like you know embrace your gray and a beauty journalist. That's the message to be embraced yourself. And i really do believe in that but then in practice. I think it's harder to do that and elegant me. I did a half ass version. I raced part migrate. Silas you do have a very distinct. But if i was really going there i would've let it all come in right and then i look at relatives and very few of them have embraced their gray and i don't judge them for but it it it leaves a lot. It gave me a lot of food for thought. And i thought you know here. I'm talking about podcasts. For like ten minutes plus. And i am not in the camp to talk a. I believe i'm entitled to an opinion. But i also believe that i'm coming from a perspective. That's not of the person who is actually grappling with problem. So i said hey like you know. Hit me up. If you have any thoughts got a of thoughts at. I just wanted to share with you a couple. That were interesting. Wendy not saying any last names. She really said that you know since she let herself go Full gray she got into like the the actual technicality. She said that she has new hair growth at her temples where she said. I don't know if like this is possible. So fed there any like x parts like let me know she said the die must have killed off the hair follicle so she's not new growth. That was really interesting. Her full wave and hearst's thickness have returned. I thought that was really interesting. The actual beautiful beautiful texture coming back and her hair has never been in better shape and she said that she's a role model for her son and her three daughters and she feels really good about that. And now she's having this whole fashion renaissance enclosed and she said and i just love this part she was best of all. I feel authentically me. I had the research was showing a lot of people were talking about. They were doing it because they wanted to feel authentic hit the nail on the head and made me feel really really good and then theresa this is just like so sustained she goes. She's obviously like let her grow and she goes whom i tried to fool. How long will. I color my hair. But i being my eighties. An acting like it's all natural and that hit home. Because i've said jokingly like i'm gonna die my hair till i die. I'll be like in the nursing home like you're it's to read it's to read like i don't see myself but who am i trying to fool how long. How long is this going to go on takes forever to and is expensive. I mean i just love. I just love that. She was like enough is enough and she said practically she goes. I'm rocking Rocking blush like never before you got to compensate jane fonda told us all about them. The color station. That's necessary. it's funny. She should say blush because that is a big topic of today. We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to that so anyway. Do you have any other any other thoughts to share from listeners. Or goes to your not. Those are two of my faves and i really appreciate that. We have such a wide range of like age group. You know a wide listeners of listeners ways amazes me and like every now and then i'll get a message from someone who says oh i felt left out by this week's podcast. I'm older. i'm too young yet. But then i make it my mission to make sure to hit to hit the jersey people the next time because i love that our family. Such a broad age range. I think that's so cool the intergenerational dialog it's rea- i'm really like it just it makes me so happy so thank you for sticking with us. Yeah if something's not for you this week come back next week. It's really special. I don't really think. I'm thankful so that galoshes forever eighty yes it is. It's about we're gonna talk about blush after the beauty news. I think that's it. Oh and hit us up with them. Raise a want suggestions because jess actually is good. A piece out early. And i'm going to bring on val to do raise the wand at the end of the show So don't forget how did yes. And i'm only teasing it. You out because i feel like i'm gonna delinquent like podcast star Just like things. Why right now like my child is like which is just like in my home. Run a sixteen month old a fulltime job a husband and yes and our podcast body are boxes. Still like oh yeah. We're have to like bolt things to the wall. So she doesn't pull things down like things are like things like why gold also. Yeah farina needs dental work. That's next week. So i didn't tell you jay injustice animal. Yeah yeah yeah. that's the a valves finished her Her college exams finals. Sushil time on our hands. So now i love you. Thank all right. Let's do it. We dead so excited for meeting news. Because i feel like. I've i need to know what's going on. I feel like. I've been checked out the past week. I like how justice both co-host analysts ner. Working i'm like occupying like both like i am you listeners. I am you popcorn. She's speaking for you. She's reading your email on the show. It's great okay. awesome five like in subscribe. Okay sit back. Enjoy the beauty news first up makeup artists and influence and former fat mascara guest. I might add who catan is launching. A new line called galore. Wish he asks. Her episode was two eleven. If you wanna listen to it. So this comes out june i. It's a four as a small collection skin-care infused make up. So i just checked my ups. 'cause i did indeed get a little early access in. They're sending me some stuff. They're sending me the multi do skin ten which is thirty seven dollars. So i'll be able to report back soon Apparently it looks and feels like a tinted moisturizer but doesn't move or settle the way sheer makeup. Sometimes sometimes can And i was thinking this could be a beauty culture. Turning point like if amazon who catan is going more natural and then i was like or maybe it's just savvy business on her part to don't you think like can i just chime in for a second the listener. Sure i'll i'll. I'll allow it color. Commentary i just feel like i wanna be comfortable all the time now. Maybe it was like the pandemic i just. I want comfortable makeup to like. I want leggings. I want swish. She pants and i want like squishy makeup. She said this was an idea from people on our team who were talking about that very thing during the whole past year and a half and she was the one that had to be convinced but now that really no. Yeah because she's like you know she does a full face. But i like the scenes information. Thank you yeah okay. So building on the less is more makeup aesthetic. There's another new launch out. E-coli it's from diarra and dia she's worked at lori l. And glossy i was so into the packaging of this line. So i was like kind of following the launch along their lux Created for people with melanin rich skin. So there's a skit enhancing tit tint a lip treatment oil a highlighter but like the highlighter and skin are really good gorgeous on skin tones. So we'll share links to that. I also notice. She's going to be launching it. In june on thirteen loon and ps. I don't know if people remember. What thirteen lunar. I know we've talked about on the podcast but just a little reminder. That's an ecommerce site. They sell beauty. Brands created by. Black brown founders. That resonate with people of all colors which is very cool concept so That's another new toning back. Instagram aesthetic. Line quote well. Just an honor of your animal house. Was it animal animal. Quick little bit of a quick bit of news for you. The new miss universe is vegan. Very cool yes. The last week. Ms mexico andrea nisa was crowned the new miss universe at the sixteenth annual pageant. She's like a women's right at white rights activists. She's also an animal rights activists and says she's vegan for both animal welfare reasons and environmental reasons and all the news about her being crowned somehow included that she was vegan so i thought that was a really cool thing for the community. That's also just like raises. The you know. What am i trying to say is the planet not 'cause idea like kuku fringe light. Yes you know. They're like crazy people that like. It's a cool thing. Yeah yeah so that's Ingests animal corner. I love their house. Aspirated all yeah yeah okay. Let's talk about dueling tales of vaccinated vaccination status when it comes to hair salons so here in new york city. I just noticed that my salon spoken wheel will now allow clients who have been vaccinated to go maskless but on the other end of the spectrum. I just read about a hair salon. Australia's gold coast. It's called kenya hib- frequency salon so bills itself as a holistic salon. The owner is refusing to allow clients. Who have been vaccinated to come into her salon but clients who have been vaccinated to come in. She is not. She does not want you in her salon. If you've been vaccinated was so so. But she wants the native people. She wants the unvaccinated people. She is saying the reason is that there are all these quote unknown health effects from the vaccine and that her insurance won't cover it which i said to confuse. I'm listening to you loud and clear. But i'm still confused. Let me explain this view. Science my friend science. I respect everyone's personal decisions about their own health and their own bodies. That is your choice but there have literally been zero reports of vaccine people in any way causing health issues in others who aren't vaccinated. Your vaccine doesn't like spray out of your pores as like a leg. Missed around you as you walk into the salon like you being vaccinated. I won't even get into how much it helps other people and helps the community. As a whole. That's your choice but medically speaking. This is not. I can't even understand how that would possibly work. It's just unforeseeable. yeah. I'm definitely not getting the scientific mechanism of how as because i'm pretty sure she doesn't have done. It's just listrik. And this is her opinion and so now she's banning people with vaccines so i just thought that was so funny. This is just the worst day like the beauty community. It ranges all spectrums. Vaccines came around. You've got salons. That are like great. You can take your mask when you sit down and then you've got other slots or like no vaccines here playing. Wow every day. Well dan i learn okay so inhere news. That is scientifically true. Did you know smoking is associated with hair loss. Did you know that. Just i had no idea. I don't think i knew that either. And i don't think we've talked around them podcasts. This isn't a brand new study. But i was doing some research on hair loss. I like to keep up on that. 'cause you guys message us all the time about. That's a really big issue for a lot of people. And i found a study in twenty twenty of journal of cosmetic dermatology. It showed that for people with aids your genetic alopicia which early onset her loss. That's due to aging People who are smokers of a statistically higher chance of having the that is enough to make a lot of people stop smoking like they should. I mean as if we didn't have enough other reason like the hypothesis is that the nicotine may accelerate the alopicia. And they're like they need to look into the reasoning more and also find a little bit more correlation. But if you're looking for more reason to quit smoking like hair loss. No thank you. Gosh i mean it or reason. Not to star. I mean i. I don't smoke. But i can only imagine how or i know how difficult it is to quit or by the way that condition affects men and women. So i don't know if there's whether you're manner woman that's the way. Oh gosh best of me to quit. I don't have a science corner. But i've got a tech corner. Oh my gosh we are. The you've got stem on lock here. We go so. I don't know dermatologists are either going to hate this or love this but here it is last week. Google revealed a preview of its artificial intelligence power dermatology assistance assistant which will be a web based software app. Basically here's how it's gonna work. Users will be able to a photo from their camera onto the google website. And then they'll get they'll be able to give feedback on like how long they've had this thing on their skin. They want to check your uploading a your skin. Yeah way answer some questions about the skin condition. The google tool will tell you okay. This picture is not good enough. We need to in better light or whatever and then get this. It will give you a list of possible skin conditions. It could be. How accurate do you think this thing is. I like this. You know how doctors are always like whatever you do you. I i gotta tell you i'm nervous about this. I'm nervous about this. So before you forget like i did thinking this will fuel everybody's google paranoia like i don't know how many people i know that like the minute. Something's on their skin or they have a weird symptom. They go to the internet and start searching. And you're like up for three years until you can actually see a doctor okay. So this is directly from google before you freak out. This tool is not intended to provide a diagnosis. Be a substitute for medical advice. As many conditions require clinician review an in person examination rather we hope it gives you access to authoritative information. You can use to make informed decisions about your next step. Will i think probably in the making of this tool. They ran into some regulatory issues. Because i also read. This tool is not been evaluated by the us fda for safety or ethnic assi but however it's past clinical validation and marked as a medical device in the eu so. I don't know we'll ever see this here in the united states because if it's even though people use the internet this all the time anyway and it look at their skin and look for pictures online. That looked like it the minute you have them upload a photo it's turning into a medical tool and you're giving medical advice so i see where they went with us and i can see why they're doing it and they want to help you know. Find more skin cancers and get you to the dermatologist. Sooner but i think they're running into like okay but we're also we're not making medical tools. Were just were search site. Yeah this this feels like something. People will use abuse. But this is my suspicion But like nobody is going to take ownership you know responsibility for it yet like it'll be all like couched in his legal language of like. This isn't really a medical tool. But i i was like you know what people are going to do. This anyway. might as well make it easier easier for them. Maybe how do we gotta get a germ to comment. I i have to say yeah. People do or are high tech skin cancer episode of a month and have an interesting. So i bet you'll have thoughts on this can never ends. Well say like oh. I think i know what that is. I like every jewish grandmother everywhere in my family being like. Let me tell you what you have now for. Literally relatives who i'm not naming and it's like it's usually not that but for three days. I thought that like she's talking around the party with their iphone. Now give free medical. I know with this is tap tap. Tap like a long fingernail anyway. It's very cool. I'm going to link on our blog. Which is by the way fat mascara slash blog to google's explaining what they did and showing you how it works a whole press release about. It's really interesting. And that was gen- reporter bob. Hey it's jan. Let's talk about your skin and your acne. Vers rose asia dark spots. Whatever your problem you could talk about over the counter products day. But what just. I often say as you need to see a dermatologist. To get help and that's hard you know it does work getting help. 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Vip and you're going to get fifteen percent off. Blenders rocked with pride worldwide. Pins and everyone i know. I've been talking a lot about blush lately. But if you saw me you understand. I look like yes. Last time i saw you said you look like a loaf of bread but like the one. That's all smushed like in the store like the doctor that reference at all and you don't look like a loaf of bread but like okay. You know which one. I'm talking about right. You are fair skinned. So it's definitely like what like what like like. My friend looks white bread. You're gonna love her like the what like like the one that like beat up like the one that's like like a like somebody like last tours aren't fresh. They're they're not fresh not even even like everything's just like beat up and not cute So i have found that blush more so than bronze are and i think gen and i had a laugh about that. A couple of weeks ago we did our like adverse three hundred episodes. I was used to be like brand and it was like who is this person on the podcast and it was like five years ago. I'm really more of a blush. Gow now you know we talked about. How christopher buckle loves it for the aging face if he really thinks it brings it back to like that the aging fans. I'm kind of half joking. But i really find it. She's a gives gives me a little bit of a kick. But i think like so. Many people gem do struggle with this. I've been wearing blush for over twenty years. And i don't know if i'm doing it right every single morning. Like where on your side of your face you put it. Yeah you know what. I really did until i got filler. And then like it was like told me where to put it because the cheeks finally like pops and i was like. Oh that's how it goes okay. 'cause i didn't really have cheeks before that though i don't know where my chewing tip we go. Don't get to find out where your blush goes. Bad idea guys okay. No it's difficult. We get this question all the time because people want to know does it go in the hollows underneath all the way back to the temples. C-shape shape three shape on the apples is it is it. Is it trend. Based is it like oh when the eighties did this. Ninety do this or whatever like is it like about. What's in fashion. Is it about what's right for your face and i often think i'm going to ask an expert. Then i never do we one more people like just put it where you naturally blush girl. I have rose atia. Am i gonna put it over my nose and my chin to like if i did it where. I naturally blush. My whole face was covered in blush. Exactly right go on. So i feel like this is a question that i needed to address so i decided to put this question to a makeup artist. Her name is romi sulejmani. I don't know if you guys follow her on instagram. do check her out. Romi glow is her instagram. I love the way she does blush. I love the way she does. Make off just like full stop. 'cause it's always very like chew c. n. romantic warlike romantic than juicy. I would say it's mary's soft. It's very soft and when we talked about blush on august the tip in the second she used this word that described her whole sort of aesthetic diffuse abuse. This is like the opposite of like streaky. Client exactly when she said it was like i came to the right person for my for my blush tip so i said to her. I said romi like asking this question of atmos garra. Where does one put their blush and her being an artist. She's not going to give me one answer like you know it's not like she's not a one and done kind of lake like piggy-bank quote machine kind of thing. She's not going to go. This is how it works for. Everyone but i said like i just need the broadest tip for like you know like blush for dummies and i said i wanna do cream blush because i think that for me. I'm really into cream blush right now so i hope you guys don't mind she said you wanna put it on. You wanna smile ready then you wanna put it on the little fat party or cheek. Best apple i was talking about. What the filler y-. So even if you don't get filler okay. A seven feeling most of our listeners. We did a poll. I've near face smile. Plan little fat part. And then you're going to disperse it to the ear like Sweep up sweep up superb as it fades into nothing. Now i think if you're a powder person i think this works to and it's a one if you put on too much and she said you can just use some cream like some concealed and put it around the side like with a beauty blended like if you're blending got to colorful because that's what happens if things get crazy with me and then i see like little paw prints like ghetto towards the cy like it just. I'm not great at it so just put more like conceal around the side. But here's another tip. That i love that. I pretty sure you guys have never heard his. I never heard this put more concealed under around her nose and all around your nostrils your nostrils and that's kind of like make that shake like pop that makes so much sense because the area around my nasha so read that like you want it to contrast with the pinky european blush you needed to be the color of your skin not to read. Yeah i thought that was like a really big artist. Hip that i'd never thought of. That's really smart so like no matter. How good your blush is if you have redness run or nostrils. It's not looking good right and you said you also extend it a little bit over the blush area. Is it f you to do exactly. That's my next word. And my notes she goes it will diffuse look diffuse so roomy right. So like the put that blush in the apple Padded out toward up towards the ear and for like this is not looking cute. Grab your conceal her. Hit up around the nose tap it out a little bit into the until like the collar and make sure you kind of just like blended out a little bit towards the ear and side note. If you're working with all cream formulas here this is even better because viewed powder blush you would not want to drag your cream. Conceal over the patent right right. Yes thank you for saying that. Because you don't want to mix the two mediums Hope that that's good for folks that are using cream. I'm just gonna if you guys are thinking about my poor powder friends who are like. I don't like cream powder if you mess it up. She did say grab a clean blush. Brush it's a tug of the queen brush brush and then you're gonna wanna kinda sweep this stuff away so make sure you have a clean extra russian hand. I asked her for some of her favourite formulas. Because yes please yes. She is a cream blush. Extraordinarily or kinda sewer rather. She named a couple of brands that we don't talk a lot about on the show so But that was interesting. Sonny's face sonny's face. I know this brand. That's based in philippines. Gorgeous products actually have used her lip product but not their blush. But okay me give give it a try. She said that has nice. Powdery finish She loves his organic brand called Mana cy seven. She says that they're highly pigmentation. The brands from sweden. She loves the fuchsia. She loves the red and this was the biggest endorsement. she said. They're good enough to put in the kit. I was like oh okay She loves gucci. Westman westmin- attila. And have to say i've been using a lot of good. She western products the past couple of weeks. And i might where like. Why was i like sleeping. On some of these products. I loved her foundations and i love her. Bronze off financing bronze. Because i do like them just to kind of warm up like a little bit my skin but a might kind of been mixing them with the blush is a little bit. I have been feeling a little bit more life and my skin We're gonna do a separate thing unqoute. Us made products. Because i've really been like for for gal on the go. Really been loving them Tata harper surat beauty. And then this is really Just kind of a nice tip for anyone who's like. I don't have any money to buy anything right now lipstick on the cheeks. She's like i just love it always. Yeah yeah so might need a little bit more blend action and maybe that conceal action if it gets too dark but also you don't have to buy anything so on the honor those graves note. I have to add mother. Just drop some blush is pat mcgrath labs divine divine collection and those are powders so powder lovers. I tried with the color. Payoff is amazing as per all color. So if you're a powder person but wow row me. Thanks and thanks stress for doing that reporting. You're not gonna look like old bread anymore. Okay it is time to raise the wand first up we have okay. She doesn't say her name but her name is roanne because she emailed me this voice memos so i saw from her email address. Hey roanne go ahead and share your raise a wand. I want to raise a one to the tachia. One-step community cleansing oil. It starts off as an oil to remove your makeup and then most with water to cleanse your skin. I love the leaves. My skin soft in moisturised every time. It's one of my holy grail products. Okay that was a good one. I have to say. I had an issue this week with you guys my fat mascara fam- nobody sent me a razor on this week. This is the first week that's ever happens. I didn't get one voice. I don't know what's going on. Maybe everybody who wanted to send one has already sent one. But i need to bring in the hype. So i have my height man. My hype woman intern val. My southern correspondent is here high. She's here too hype hype up the raison on aspects. You guys remember to turn them in. You know how to do it. You email us at info at fat mascara dot com or call six four six four eight one eight one eight two and i brought vow. Because she's like a pro at this at this point and she can show you how it's done. Okay take it away vow. What is your product this week. Oh i am so so excited to tell you all about this and i need to start with some back story is that okay. Hi wear fake eyelashes. Whenever you do not need to like. I will literally put them on to go through a drive through. Someone's going to be seeing me for fifteen second. I love you bring the glam. I certainly don't do it enough for the both of us. Okay okay good. V lashes that. I've been currently obsessed with our the ardell delwip spy's in seven one and for those of you. Who don't have all of the wispy numbers memorized like is that. It's kind of three quarters of the length of a normal del strip lash so they're kind of shorter and the length is concentrated towards the end. So they're very long on the end and they stopped. Click on your outer corners of your is longer fo- lashes than inner. Yes so. I really love them because they're so flirty that i find myself like batting my eyelashes at anyone who looked at me like i feel beautiful and feminine and so fun. When i'm in these they make me feel like i could like frolic around in a sunflower field. That's fun. they are valid. Where four lashes to the sunflower field. I wear them in the grocery store. Even when i know. I'm going to be wearing sunglasses. So people don't look at me. I will have a strip law sean at any moment so i had to tell you guys about my favorite right now. Those are good because there are three quarter length. I'm guessing you then. Shift them towards the outer corner. So it's like even more of a natural effect. Yes which i love. 'cause my number one problem when i wear lashes and i always i've tried every check to combat it but sometimes i just don't do it right. Where the inner lash or the inner corner will always pop up. I will always be the girl that has a bit of an inner corner pop with the lashes because they go to close in to the inside of my i. You know what. I gotcha got you i. Sometimes i most of the time. I put enough glue but sometimes it just looks messy so these domain me look messy me look like i'm a beautiful flirtatious twenty one year old and i love that i love that too. Can i say that by the way she does have that number. But she also showed. There's an entire pack of like variety pack of our dell lashes but seven. Oh one with bees is the way to go okay. good tip val My product is rolled off. I don't know where it went. But one of our listeners told me about the fragrance company. Maison louis marie so i went on their website and i bought the little sampler set of like five just to see them all. I have found. Are you ready for this. You know the dip tc bays candle that everybody loves ice found the perfume equivalent. Like that might sound weird because maybe you don't wanna smell it your candle but trust me you because it's like black current and fresh and green and a little bit rose but not in like a grandma way so that candles amazing and weirdly. This perfume smells like that candle. It's called maison louis. Louis marie and tedious kosice. Oh look at that it also has white rose in cassie sort of black currant. Isn't it. I think vows like maybe i'm smiling and nodding everyone. Yeah good support. Thanks for the fact. Check valve. This friday grants it's just like like the tc bays candle that is super famous. That's all the spa and everything come to life. Very light very summary. I'm very excited about it. 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Ep. 314: Armpit Detox, PFAs in Cosmetics & The Weeks Beauty News
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Money is gonna go to help us set up that whole video thing so just clicked lincoln the show notes or go to fat mascara dot com slash member and you could support us. You don't have to listen to ads. it's a great to get the show. A special little exclusive version of the show by the way did i say i was gen. And this is beauty podcast because it is. That's yes that's how. I mean allah so cute and has the cutest that right now. So yeah i we gotta get this video going fast and yet your your tax dollars will help us get there so both atmos skara. I'm so happy there were altogether the three of us here. We have a great show coming up but first of all vow. You're not you're not a regular because you really are. What keeps this show chugging every single week you know if you go onto our blog you see you you wanna find it. More deep dive info on the products. What article was study was gen citing. What you know added was just talking about val. Is the woman who puts it up val keeps our store going are like shot. My shelf like all of that stuff bows doing but val actually is a very busy woman on her own bell. One eight. Tell us what you do when you're not working on fatma-zohra only gosh yeah. She's still a college student. I have to say. She's getting educated. Yes i am. This is like it's so much fun. It sounds like a lot. But every time i do a blog and stuff i like i catch myself smiling the whole time because this work is so meaningful in some exciting besides being the southern correspondent at that mascara when she has time to get perfect eyeliner. Eyeliner is better than like. I've ever figured out got thank you. It is taken years of practice and it was fearful for the first six or seven years. So i'm so glad that you think it looks better now but anyway. I'm going to be the editor in chief of our campus fashion magazine. Which is very exciting. Thank you and i'm also the summer. I'm conducting beauty research on the impact of covid on the beauty industry on the merchandising level. So how it changed product offerings. How it changed discounting how it changed. The percentage of products being sold out online and in stores so. I'm into beauty and for the fashion magazine. I used to be beauty director and now going to be editor in chief so my life is beauty beauty beauty and i would not want it any other way amazing so okay you got your start at school on. Fm in five years. I'm sure you're going to be like giving all of us jobs so you need to cut back on fm and you need to have your own segment where you talk about the impact of covid on. I wouldn't want to hear what your research. He's i'm really interested. Give us the exclusive before university of delaware. Oh of course. Of course my allegiance is but so what else is up for the summer any any anything. Cool you noticing anything like on the streets because you not only. Are you our southern correspondent. You're also. I wanna say like a little bit of our like gen. Z correspondent. i mean generally. We're down but we're not that down. No you're y'all are down for yourself. Jeff but tell you what my field. Observations studies have taught me. I have seen a lot of tie-dye. I've seen a lot of bermuda shorts. Bright colors Hat on hold on. Did you go just had title right now. You're wearing my jackets reveal. it's awesome. it's also. Who's this twenty rolled on fat mascara. So yeah that's the way down comment. I'm love and there's also a lot of like plastic beaded necklaces. And stuff like my barista. Today had like a fun. Like little. Mike goals be necklace moment. And okay mice town if you're hip with like gen z. Style right now like this stuff is all over tiktok and that's what zara selling and all this stuff. But i do have to say that. It is oddly reminiscent of my summer camp style back in two thousand ten. So i'm not saying that. I pioneered all of this but i am saying that i did where this advice. Summer camp style. Back in like lazarus-like. Plastic bucket ham. I gosh the day that landlords combined but writes yes. No so. that's what i'm saying is like i wore this in a kayak in the middle of a lake in south carolina. So i'm happy to be seeing on the streets that i'm happy to be seeing it on talk but i have a lot of photos in this style ages ago so i was the trend setter. That's basically what i'm trying to. I love that early adopter chorus. Of course we're happy to hear you that we're happy we're happy to have you here on fat being gara. Okay all right. We need to get to the rest of the show asari but we have to move back on yet and i want to hear what's going on. With your reason. I got love. Listeners would be interest. No but i agree. It's time to talk about armpits. you're right yankee. Good seguimiento we are talking about i. I'm gonna do the news. And then we're all going to talk about armpits and detoxing armpits and then raise the wand and that'll be the show but you've run as well right you brought your own short. You're on raw. Okay cool okay. of course. i'll stick around stick around all summer. We're so happy you're here. Oh my god thank you. I always love being here. Okay let's do the news. I'm just gonna get it out of the way this week in celebrity beauty news because everybody can celebrity be becky g launching a cosmetics line vanessa hudgens and madison. Beer launched align with dna testing. Believe it or not i know. Justice faces like what celebrities are doing dna testing. That's right they are and then. I was kind of excited about this. When gabrielle union and dwayne wade or doing a little baby line okay specifically yeah specifically for kids with melanin rich skin and it will be called proudly honestly guys. There were like five other celebrity beauty launches. But i know we're all board of them so that's hitting you with the big ones. I just don't i. We don't need that many more. Like i don't understand where all these products go to be perfectly honest like who like we'll see in five years we're going to do a recap on rat mascara tell you. All of the beauty lines from celebrities like failed. that was negative. Let's get positive showy. I just wanted to repeat repeat purchases on celebrity beauty. Yeah you'll try it once. I get that okay. This is so. I'm fascinated by this new beauty trend coming out of china. Elf ears now. Whoever named this by the way gave it like a weird connotation because it doesn't look elfin what it is is people are getting filler injections of hydraulic acid in their ears or in some cases cartilage inserts so they protrude more that same way like when kids have like sticky out ears and at first i was like oh is this like a weird gov trend like remember when like i don't know like sometimes people would get like their tongues altered and things for this goth look no it actually can be quite flattering. So the thinking here is that i was reading a south china morning post article and there was a doctor who specializes miss and he said basically it makes your face looks slimmer so a lot of women in china who want to have a slimmer look to their face when their ears are plumped out and i saw before and after picture with that will link to it. Doesn't i think it kind of does make your face look slimmer. What jess too much. Time on your hands or money starring. Lumping out your ears. This is like cookie cookie. Go on well. One woman was quoted as saying. It's magic she changed. Nothing else on her face and her friends didn't really know what happened but they said that you look different and better the day she got it done so keep an eye. Keep an ear on. I'm sorry myself okay. This is cool. North carolina salons aiming to improve your. They're eight salons north carolina that partnered with the american heart association to offer blood pressure checks at the salon. And when i saw i thought okay. We've already talked about how a lot of time stylists Are there to talk about domestic violence and the first people that see other health. Conditions like psoriasis eczema. Why not if you're going cut anyway. Aren't you know medical providers partnering with salons more thought. This was really cool. I love that. I love that one. My favorite news items in weeks go on and there'll be blood pressure machines at these salons and they also add some days. Where nurses were there to do checkups. But it's sort of like you're already going in any way. Why not do a little bit of a of the health services. Well not just a cosmetic service so if you're a salon owner out there and i know we have lots of s titians salon owners that our listeners think about maybe partnering. They did it with the american heart association of north carolina. Think about. Maybe there's something you could do in your community to promote heart health or other healthy practices. I thought that was a really good. Yeah you've got a captive audience and some built in trust. Hopefully it's very true okay. Science corner buckle up. Everyone i promised you and now i'm making good. So many people sent me this guardian article about pfa's in cosmetics. So i wanted to dig into this little bit a few weeks ago. Researchers a study in everyone's favorite reading material environmental science and technology letters looking into garage. As i know it's a hot read. Pf as in cosmetics and north american carolina one. Our pfa's these are manmade. Chemicals are highly resistant to think like ten on a frying pan resistant to water And exposure to some of these has been associated with health problems including certain cancers infertility list risks thyroid disease so there could also be environmental effects. So what this study found for you freak out study tested for fluorine which indicates the presence of pf as they found fifty six percent of foundations. Tested i think two hundred and thirty one. Just general cross-section across north america Fifty percent six percent foundations and i products forty eight percent flip products and forty seven percent of mess. Cars had this presence of fluorine which indicates that there is a pfa pfa is also sometimes known as a forever chemical so they did a little more digging to dial down into what exactly were ins of these and they found of the two hundred and thirty one twenty nine cosmetic products that contain pfa's only one of them had that ingredient listed on label so a lot of the headlines. I saw for this. And i think the garden is like this where like forever chemicals are in your cosmetics and they are toxic and cause cancer and that was the end of it. Yes this is worrisome but the takeaway for me. Isn't that like clean. Beauty is necessarily the fix or throw away all of your beauty products. The issue here is labeling and even the researchers said this in the paper and the academic papers they were like governments to be more involved in labeling this now you know how i think we've had you on the show and they talk about like well in the eu. This chemical is banned. And that can right right right. And a lot of people like knee-jerk reaction is oh the united sates only bands eleven chemicals the eu has thousands. Guess what people the eu does not ban require labeling of these ingredients either these pfa's so this is something that we really have to get on at all at all government levels. I will say in the european union. They already have like a working paper going. And it's possible by twenty twenty five. They might ban. Pfa's but that's not the case yet here however if you're from maryland or california good for you because both of those states are starting to ban certain phase in cosmetics. But again those don't do rules. Don't go into effect for a couple more years even though they've passed legislation in those states so I did notice the why this is so weird. I can't tell if this is coincidental. The week that paper came out to senators here in the united states. Also put up a new bill banning. Pfa's in cosmetics. I'm thinking they probably had like early access to the paper or they already had their eyes on this. So there's Let me get the bill named the bill right and in case you want to look it up. Hold on just a second. Oh my gosh so obvious no. Pf as in cosmetics act real original. There's anyway. I don't know if you know how the government works here in the united states if your globalist nerve but like that does not mean anything that bill could sit there on capitol hill for decades past. So if you're worried about this we're gonna link to the paper itself that shows you. Moore's you to learn more about what these are. I would say before you get rid of all of your cosmetics and things like see what your state or your country is doing to like. Make us more aware of what is in our products and that way we can make choices. I think that's ultimate takeaway like we just wanna be able to make informed choices. I don't think there should be like laws banning everything outright And one more thing. I if somebody's out there like why you should have clean beauty. Silica for example is an ingredient. That's often clean beauty. It's basically sand you know it's it's like almost like a mineral sometimes. Pf are in silica because companies might add them to make the silica more durable and if a clean beauty company isn't good about their transparency. Or sourcing they might get silica. That has a psa and they don't know it. This is all the more reason to show you that. We need the labeling guidelines not that companies are out to get us and adding toxic chemicals to products. Zahle make sense it does. How did i do get too into the weeds. No i think this is a complicated topic. So really is if you do just kind of like really big broad strokes that you're kind of doing it to service Yeah yes. I love it. I love that our listeners were the ones to just be like jenn. Please see what's going on with this. So i hope. I i give you a little more info link to some more resources for you and because i can't end on a downer. Science note of another toxic chemical interviewed. A- perfume museum opened in washington. Dc last month. May i have to tell you. I took a little sneaky. Cheeky peek at the headlines are usually. Don't okay i. I hadn't heard about this. I have to be honest. So i looked like a virtual photos of the room. It's a stretch to call it a museum it's more of an exhibition space and they have displays and things so the qatar american institute for culture. Qatar obviously has a long cultural history of perfume. I mean the middle east was creating perfumes before any history books were even written that they are highlighting a lot of the cultural aspects. Perfume teaching you more about perfume they hope to do. Diy perfume e workshops guest lectures all of that this was. I don't know if there's a good or bad thing. I thought this was very cool. You can't just walk into the museum. You need to make an appointment. She it's like a fun little like so you're in washington and like you call up ahead of time. We're actually use this website link. i'll give you You can go and check it all out and have a little private viewing of the qatar institutes perfume museum. I love that yes. Their website has info will put the lincoln the blog and then maybe just nile. Open our perfuse perfume museum next. What do you think. I would be down with that. I feel like okay I feel like i'm a man one right now. I'm like i'm recording right now in front of my shelves. And i'm like i love. I love your new recording space. 'cause i get your perfume collection behind you. I've got a sort this out of the closet to mess right now. All right we're going to clean this place up last news. Item jess will be cleaning her. Goodbye guys okay. Th this was good that was chunky. That was chunky. I liked it chunkys. good right. 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Everywhere armpits. a lotta armpits. Okay a lot armpits. Too many armpits. But i'm also seeing a lot of armpit detox products yeah. I didn't know my armpits needed to detox. I remember when katie street. Oh mentioned that when she came on the show. And i was like what i see a product here in their back in the day. It wasn't like thing. I was polite. I didn't realize that i you know. A katie does on board with katie. Wears a baseball cap now. Our baseball cap. So i just like i follow katie. But i'm like okay. Do my armpits needed detox. So i've been looking into it. I detox by the way you may just like the generalized term as justin. I've discussed your liver desert detoxing bla-bla-bla just like the beauty beauty industry likes to use this word for cleaning re exactly exactly. I know that like there's no like you know. Depends who you ask but like you know it was like okay. I know my my rbis donate like a real detox. But i was like okay. Lemme ask like a real scientist. What's going on you know. What kind of ingredients are we taking out any. No it's not. Just katie serena who makes one with her mega babe line But you know tons of brands. Make them put in Armpit detox in your in your google search and you'll be shocked with how many brands both familiar ones and ones that you've never heard of have this product so i talk to ginger king. She's a cosmetic chemists and her instagram is the at the beach shark. Ginger which i love. And i said what's up with the whole category. What is it. why do we need it. She had a really great very clear analogy for these kind of products. She said it's kind of like it's kind of like an exfoliating like face masks. You said think about antiperspirant and even like naturally arain salata them. There's a lot of buildup that you know. That builds up underneath your armpits and a lot of that just mass all the pores right it. Just think about the kind. You can scrape with your finger now natural. it'd be like. I would say waxes an like him heavy oils. And then in the anti per sprints. There's the aluminum chloride which actually does plug up the sweat. Talent makes you stop sweating that way. It's healthy you're still going to other places on your body but yes they get stuck into your skin. Exactly i mean at when i shower a kind of just scrape it with my fingernails on. I'm like oh but of leave it there. So fees function like a clarifying shampoo would on your hair to get rid of the risen. The residue And it's also like if you know you're going to be let's say you Let's say you wanted to transition from one kind of deodorant. Antiperspirant you're using for now. You wanna do either national deodorant or in a hell node yoder whatever. Your bag is not judging. Okay you might want to use one of these two exfoliating. The skin so that that next product can start to work. Because if you're just gonna start popping on you know. Joe blow's natural peppermint yada yada on top of your you know days weeks. Whatever of buildup of yeah. Yeah guess. what's not working your microflora. A lot of people anecdotally talked about when they make a switch even from like a traditional deodorant or traditional anti personnel traditional deodorant from one traditional to a natural one feeling stinkier. Which makes sense if you've got a bunch of waxes and things in there. I'm sure the little new 'bacterial for having a lovely little place for them to hang out. Oh it just sounds like waxy. Underarm residue barf actually. I like the moist kind of environment. That these that they ivan. So right right so I'm not gonna listen. I i'm not a fan of the word d. Talk toxin. you'd be listening to the joe long geno naively. We talk about this a lot. I think it is kind of a marketing term. I don't think anyone needs to detox their armpits. But i do think that this is a product that does serve a need or like or a wish. You want And if you wanna try one. I would love to hear how your experience was. I might try one just to see what it's like but i. I am happy with my current. you know. Antiperspirant interesting product. I have to say when you said people who don't ucs I somewhat admitted this to you. But i want to say on the podcast gino. I'm not wearing any these days. When you told me that. I gotta tell you it. Blew my hair back really. It blew my hair back and i. i don't think it was once. I got married for south horrible. Like you give up and you're just like it's fine. Whatever but day. eric doesn't use it. Edgy personnel deodorant. And to me. He doesn't really smell like he sweats. But i'm not a sweater really so i was like maybe there's something to this and so i stopped using it for awhile and like these. These products purport to help with. I do think. I smelled worse for like a week. Or two. And then weirdly mush. It just bounced out. And now i like up close with you many times and you have not noticed right kidding. Kidding got we. Maybe actually 'cause eric says i'm always smells fine but you know when you're like in a relationship with someone like you like their smell. There's so much research there's also like it's like you get. You knows blind to things. You don't your house smell. And then indoors i mean it's the pandemic for like sixteen months. So what if. I've been smelling home at all right. I need to come over on a really hot day. And let's see if if it's fine because it wasn't that i have anything against antiperspirant deodorant. And anytime he was someone comes on the show and gives a cockamamie reason for not using it. I want to send them every study. I've ever looked into about this. It's not gonna kill you you should. You can use antiperspirant. But yeah i don't know i was just like let's see what happens. I've just been using it since. I was like nine. You know so brushing your teeth. Oh my god what was okay before we guys. What was your first deodorant dear member. 'cause i remember mine like yesterday. Lady mitchum oh lady vicent does that still exist. I don't know if i hope he does. I might consider switching because it was so good it was gentle but it was strong as how mine was called tickle. Why deadly remember that. I picked based glide. Just yeah i picked. I picked it purely based on visuals. My mom like i e owner. We went up to the counter and there was this secret and all. That stuff wasn't around. Then and tickle was like a wet role on with that ball on it. Nobody likes heater align it was a neon pink and i was like tickles me. Tiktok to teco someone my age out there. Who's like oh. my god over. Remember tickle anyway you definitely need an under our massacre and underarm charcoal product to like get rid of it goes still have their lady which is still probably in their. Oh my god. That's so funny. We'll thank you for that analogy. It helped explain it. Because at first i was like. Oh my gosh. Is this like one of those weird poor things we see on tiktok where you put on math and polls should have your pores. That wasn't even there no terrifying shampoo or an exfoliating. But for your underarms it makes sense. I really wanna use one now. I really wanna use one. Okay will you use one report back to us. Yeah yeah okay man jan. Come over. And i'll tell you do this. S i actually realized as i was saying that. Wow i haven't talked to anyone about my smell except for work. And he's not a great judge of that is he. She says all right fine. If if if you if you smell you must tell. I know. I know that's what we always some coming over. If i must tell okay we would okay. We have a great rays of on from our friend. Vanessa vanessa found a fantastic mascara. We can never have too many of those but esa away. Hello address on jan. My name is vanessa. 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So if you're annoyed you can stop listening now. Okay this is the last one but if you want to hear about the fancy treat like listen up. I this is god. I can't wait for us. Do video look at this body lotion guys and just showing to jenin. Val i don't know if you can see with the lightning luxury it is. This looks like you're in italy and this is super creamy. this looks like gets a million calories. It's six oh creamy. It's like frost frosting that so yeah this is like the buttercream frosting. The brand is crawled. Sandra day fruita. It's body cream and it's not like blood of the fruit. I guess so. Yeah okay go on. I don't i don't speak any other language. I think so. This is the most beautiful body butter and it. I put it all over my body the other day in the morning at night. It's still had that. Dewey feel like if someone were to hug you they would not feel that clammy feeling that moist feeling gino. What i mean But it's body right now. 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Jennifer Holub: Fleetwood Mac & Protest Songs
"Hello we're here with the music profit in stoke because it's going to be an interesting episode there'd be we're GonNa have some live music and also going to hear from someone that has done a lot in Sudbury but I think has also stayed hidden in a way to is part of a lot of projects in goes between the spotlight but then also just fades away to do her own projects artist help build other things some really excited. I did answer it guest today is going to be I'm Jennifer Holliday Hello. Are you excited because it's almost time for northern lights. Oh Yeah Yeah I'm. I'm well ready in fact in <hes> I'm so excited about the festival that I moved closer to Bell Park to be near to the festival. That's dedication right there. That's if that's not dedication Max. Mary field that I don't know what is actually <hes> when my partner and I got the keys and opened the door for the first time in the kitchen right on the fridge was a letter from Max. Mary `field representing the northern lights to just let residents of the area know about the festival and just in advance remind them that there's been a temporary lift on the noise file off for that weekend <hes> represents for for northern lights so it was a really beautiful moment to to have that calling us home so we <hes> we're really excited to be in that neighborhood yet. It's very ironic almost in a way it's super serendipitous and it was very fitting. We're really we're really thrilled. How has northern lights which played a role in your career? It's been <hes> something that that is so fundamental to the start of my career so that's a great question <hes> when I returned to set free after having worked in small towns in northern Ontario as a teacher I returned to Sudbury and someone suggested that I auditioned for the meltdown back in two thousand ten and I didn't think that at all I would be considered as a candidate did it. I wasn't doing these professionally at all. I was just doing some open mic nights and I had written some songs but I auditioned that I was selected and <hes> I was I was thrilled and so that was the a year that northern lights took place at Laurentian because of all the construction with the Grace Hartman amphitheatre what's now the grace Hartman amphitheatre and whatnot so <hes> it was <hes> it was a weird festival experience because it wasn't very well attended but but the guy I've met some people now who have said that they've been following my career since I played that festival which is really touching and I think northern lights for that opportunity <hes> it's it totally kick-started <hes> everything that I did in fact because I was selected as the meltdown winner that year I got my act together and approached the recording engineer and put out an album and that album isn't available anywhere because it was it was not my best work but the highest quality that could be nobody's <hes> it was just one of those like as an artist you have to be really forgiving of yourself with your infant and first projects because it's it's unnecessary crap that you have to put out <hes> in order to to wade through and come up with something a bit more refined <hes> i. I love that album for a lot of reasons. It's just it was the starting point and I'm I'm <hes> <hes> I'm very thankful for it in the experience of recording but anyone who records for the first time it's it's like riding a bike. It's not you don't know what you're doing. It doesn't look right or sound right all the time because you're not comfortable so it's yeah recording is a real skill that you have to learn and practice. was that something that going into the recording the first album was that in your head knowing that this is a trial or were you thinking that Oh this is great. Let's go do it. I'M GONNA kill it. I just had no idea I was very nervous I was I knew that I didn't know what I was doing and I didn't know what I was doing so much that I didn't have any <hes> backing band prepared <hes> the recording engineer John Cuneo. Luckily is a multi instrumentalist so he was able to put drum and bass on it sorry drum and some electric guitar on it and Chris Swain Played Bass and they were great <hes> considering I hadn't given them any direction at at all. They just sort of you know plugged away at it and <hes> yeah but that album is and it's it's. I didn't even get it mastered like it's not available anywhere so it's it'll remain the secret. Do you find that you do the same thing now with or that. You do the same process when you decide that songs aren't worth putting in general but the same process of like like with song writing or now the more experienced -perienced. Do you still take approach. It will now that now that I realize what makes the song that I'm more comfortable with. I cut a lot more stuff like I'm a lot pickier and now that I've grease the wheels of songwriting. I write a lot more. More now than I used to and can pump out a lot more now than I used to so <hes> because they have more material like in pare down and and be a bit pickier more selective of what I'm going to record and put onto an album so yeah yea it's definitely changed <hes> whereas before I was not a very accomplished songwriter and I was just I just recorded all of the songs they had written for the on first album and <hes> and now I only record record like a quarter of the songs that I'm thinking of putting onto an album that's death. Actually complete makes sense because I can remember a couple years ago. I had this goal that I wanted to put out a acoustic album and it was something that I wrote twelve or thirteen tracks and I thought oh this'll be great. I'm just GonNa put this put these there and actually look into recording but then they started playing them a couple times and realized that most were not great well and that's the other thing too is <hes>. That's a very subjective opinion right so yeah at the end of the day you have to be comfortable with what you're putting out the represents you <hes> and some things that you think might be crap. Other people might really really like and <hes> that's a weird part about the whole thing. It's so weird to see how people react to the music afterwards <hes> when I was trying to select a single for my previous album album for the hunting panting I really had no idea which single the pick and I had a few in mind but someone gave me this terrific advice that a lot of lot of artists do they'll send the album to a few people whose opinion they really trust and usually it's other people in the industry and some friends that listen to a lot of music and taste makers and they get everyone to pick which to they would select and usually you're really surprised with the result <hes> but it's it's good research. It's almost like market research and you're selecting a sampling of an audience that really is going to care and consider the quality of the single so diets what I've done for the past two albums now <hes> the reckoning reckoning and for the hunting and <hes> it's been tremendously helpful because you can go forward with that single with confidence and know okay this is this is a great choice and you can build a music video around that or whatever kind of release you WanNa do. When does that change when you're sound becomes more mainstream this what changed the single the single selection process of going to mentor is so to speak to do that? Does that change when it's when you're sound is trying to reach a more broad audience I've not might for me. I've not ever tried to go after the broad audience my my material is I think incidentally become a bit more poppy ah just because of the Artistic Direction <hes> that's a good question but I don't know I've I've just looked for I've just written songs for quality and not necessarily follow the the pop machine. She's not yeah. It's a play on words. I have nothing against pop music. I love pop music. <hes> it's just not something that I can organically make so for me. I don't know good question yeah because you don't think about that right when you're creating music or in the songs you don't I think about what should be mostly right. Yeah you just sort of unless you've been listening to. I don't know steely Dan nonstop. You're likely going to come out with something. That's very groovy. Seventies inspired <hes> which I have been doing lately actually in a new house that we're in that's all they've been listening to and I don't know why but there's a very steely Dan feel about the place and <hes> I literally have not played anything else through those speakers syncing moved in and for the past two weeks. It's just been the one steely Dan album from nineteen seventy four so yeah that that's your Go-to for steely Dan's might go to it's the best one is the best album. I don't even know what it's called <unk>. That's when I play. I should know more about steely Dan. We all should know more about steely Dan terrific band. I feel that they're they're one the underrated lesser known artists that because even even like when you look at mainstream pop culture I think John Mullany the comedian was on a talk show and talked about how much he loves steely Dan did and it was just a very surprising because you don't really hear his name mentioned right right but but you don't and nobody realizes how many steely Dan songs they know until you go through that catalog cal. I know most of these songs you know if you get an idea of like a memory of being camp with you know your uncle's in the sixties seventies eighties like that's the steely Dan soundtracks like dudes on dock fishing drink beer steely Dan that's anyway. That's the memory of associated yeah yeah. There's it's there's an atmosphere here in a certain type of memory that comes with it yeah absolutely it's very carefree music but very regimented at the same time good jetson position and I think on that I think that's. That's a good time for you. Just play a song for us. Maybe oh sure on the note of steely Dan who on the noted yeah I have. I have something that we could work so this song <hes> this is a song long that has a very seventy five to it at least on the recording does when I approached John Dan Luma co-producer with this song <hes> he's a huge fleetwood Mac fan even though he won't that that won't be the first thing he tells you about himself him in Matt we will <hes> <hes> I was in. I came into the studio after having been at work all day and they said you know we've just very very different with this song and this was meant view more of a somber sort of reflective piece but they turned it into a very groovy seventies fleetwood MAC sounding thing so this is called not pretending dona they don't ask don't uh is done just the move. Oh we get to this she drawing on the lives of aw not cool mm-hmm on all day and all the walls mm-hmm. Uh You know who's mm-hmm mm-hmm who minutes to that song in particular and similar to other protests music isn't to be as prescriptive and forthright about the message passage to to allow the listener to uncover that for themselves and upon uncovering themselves than they feel more connected because Oh they've discovered something for themselves but the music that that means something to them <hes> but I think any kind kind of outright preaching this I turned off a lot of people nobody really wants to be told what to what to think but if if you're listening to a song that tells a full story and has that underlying message and if you agree with that story people that story then you'll get the message. One of the best examples probably born in the U._S._A.. Right Oh yeah that's great great song for that for sure especially with the non of waiting the preaching of it <hes> yeah. Everyone thinks that's very patriotic song in a way it is but it's not a it's. It's not a pro U._S._A.. Song it's a very accurate and honest song about what it means to be in the U._S._A.. U._S._A._A. and to grow up there many people don't know that right because <hes> I imagine for myself anyway I don't delve into a lot of protests music or the genre of message driven indeed pop type of things where it becomes more of a niche but I mean can you sort of expand on other artists that are planning this very open type of. Here's here's my message. Here's a point about something. That's socially happening. You just need to know about <hes> U._S.. Girls is a great example are banned onto or covered a song called mad as hell about <hes> the. Ah Dystopia and feeling that women in the fifties and sixties were getting through media messaging <hes> so that's a terrific tune but very disco. It's a very disco song so I love that it's not that Cousteau Guitar Dr Like Bob Dylan and the lonesome death that had carol style which I also love that it's your stereotypical this ah protests on Gaseous Guitar Yeah Unshaven Yeah Yeah whereas the U._S. girls. It's a it's a very disco song. You're dancing and then you realize Oh oh wow this is a really in your face. Protest Song like it's called mad as hell for Gosh Sakes so yeah so that's an end that artists has a some other songs that are also very yet very much in the protests tradition and I think winter sleep is also in the mix a little bit for that. I don't listen to any <hes> yes. I'll have to check that out the their their newest album I noticed has some tinges <music> of trying to copy that rigidness machine message but it's more subtle more like <hes> indeed <hes> Surf Rock type vibe yeah another artist to WHO's a personal friend of mine is Nick Sherman. He's from Sioux lookout <hes> he's an indigenous started doing really well right now and I don't know what is the song's called but he has a song about <hes> indigenous youth from remote communities having to go into Sioux Lookout Thunder Bay for High School Because High School is not available in their town and <hes> the choruses stay home or start running and it's it's very powerful. It's a very powerful <hes> socially conscious on and and most of his songs are very powerful <hes> lyrically it was going to say that yeah because most of his lyrics are something that just make you stop everything in listen <hes> yeah for sure and <hes> and Nick really knows what he's talking about and that's where the authenticity comes into play. You can't fake that if you didn't live next life you'd never be able to write about that as effectively as he does. So funny was listening to this. Listen listen to Nick's Sherman. He's fantastic and if you like Bruce Springsteen you'll you'll love him too. I I find his <hes> his vibe similar so I love that music inserted to cap it off. Maybe do you want to play the island. Oh that's the song that would be more. I don't play guitar that is true right as trying to think of a song that be really good way to showcase how you play with a protest song long but not in a direct message well. When Song that I could play is called Caroline you're going to be and it's a it's a reflection on on the addictions and opioid crisis so maybe that would be eh? I think that'd be a good way because for the listeners it'd be great for them to hear the result of that will like discussion of what protest songs could be yeah cool. Okay well here. It is and I should mention that I wrote this as an guitar song and I really thought we were going to do it on guitar but then yet John Convince me that it was a pianist song so I'm really glad 'cause I love playing it live but <hes> yeah I really do it on guitar very much so I'm excited about this too something different Dean Kamen Creek there waiting for you you in their way all man wrestling with ooh Na the Saving Cha when you Jio Harbor Ooh so you fast Yoga <music>. ME A bridge over wall to walk. May Leo all in the summer you can run with me mm-hmm and then the you can't set me free <music> down <music> uh-huh yeah. That was definitely a great. That's good on Acoustic Guitar though too. I love it on Acoustic Guitars well yeah so I welcome opportunities to play it in in this kind of context next because I love I love the progressiveness of the guitar when I can do with it. I I love the piano version that we do as well on the recording on onto her because there's a really beautiful instrumental bridge that the voice put in and near the end by the end. It's just Matt we will and I both playing guitar me on piano and we played together like <hes> like a music box that you'd wind up when we do that live performance. It's it's one of my favorite moments. <hes> because Matt we will is definitely a close friend of mine and it just you know those those moments you play with your friends and like okay buddy. It's just US enough the song together Eh so it's not just musicians. It's it's just friends playing at that point Yeah Yeah Yeah Oh for sure and that's the same with with everyone in the band. I really love those guys. They're very very fortunate to found a band of people who are very easy to travel with and respectful and yeah and then just like generally responsible <hes> yeah it's it's been a real blessing. You've done a lot with murder murder and other members of that for years now yeah for sure <hes> there I initially met them when they asked me to <hes> to to tour with them <hes> one of their vocalists in Pistol George Warren couldn't make the tour so a few of the members of murder murder were also in Pistol George Warren so I talked with them through Ontario and intimated Joba for two week tour and I grew to just fall in love with everyone in that band everyone like really we're. We're doing it because of the music and because of the Arden and <hes> and our great musicians in great artists and pay attention to due to art and really inspired me to to continue to operate that way and lot of the things they do <hes> I try to aspire to as well so yeah so we've been we've worked together on a few things and yeah no stopping now. It's already started for sure and are they playing with you for another nights as well yeah so so <hes> actually John Dan Lou Matt we will <hes> Steph Duchenne in Chris L. from well from murder murder but Matt we will is they're. They're sound guy when they are <hes>. They're in my touring backing band and were able to add a very miles. <hes> for this performance on piano. I know who also plays on the album in bound for glory and <hes> and then also <hes> so those are those are murder murder guys and then <hes> we've got an e the anthem a- and Nadia Costanzo who I I sang within northern Memphis revival my soul sisters and Lisa Marina Ponts who I've worked with in some collaborative songwriting formats and who's who's a friend as well and really thrilled to have her involved as well yeah. I've noticed a trend that you worked with a lot of close friends very often seems like for most of your projects yeah for sure. I mean you know that if you know the people and you know what they're capable love. It's very <hes>. <hes> it just it helps with momentum <hes> you don't get any surprises and and also not only for me with these guys but for the guys amongst themselves like they they can just look at each other and know what they're gonNA do next like they have such a language amongst them so I don't ever have to really worry about <hes> their comfort level with each other and I'm a very emotional person. <hes> I really internalize any kind of tension in the group group so for me. It's great that this is a group of people that <hes> that worked so well together and in have for years so it's <hes> It's like a well oiled machine and that's a good way to end the show I think just on on that note of positivity so forum listening. Can you tell us where you're what the Times you're playing this weekend and where they can find you online so they can here too. You're the reckoning. which is your new album yeah so I'll be at as this Jennifer Sullivan the erratics the erratics are full document? We will be on the main stage this Friday at seven thirty at northern lights and then Barry Miles and Kevin Bright and I are going to be doing the springsteen tribute workshop shop on Saturday at one PM filling up a full hour of Bruce springsteen tunes which is like a dream come true and I may or may not be doing a performance on the Malacca during that time and and as for finding the album my mind band camp and spotify and apple music and Google play Anna have a website as well and so if they just look for Jennifer Hall of H. O. L. U.. B. They will find it cool and so so I think which I'm a big fan of shows <unk> with a different sound instead of closing song so are you down sue play another song to assertive to fade because we'll basically <hes> you've been listening to the music profit within for all up and we're going to end the show with another song from Jennifer and we will see you next week. This is the title track for my last album for the hunting theanswer you're looking for the Anura been gathering comes out he coulson to stir every and there's nothing left for me cold <music> Alice car aw down this Chad lies leery of bones all over baby. Maybe a good step in my so dreamy wrongs. Eh there'll be no goes fees <music> and watch the stars sky echoed the all morning eh sitting in nothing me belong. They call her baby. That's good <music> but <hes> Putin rolling. I'M GONNA skit one <music> the no <music>.
"<music> hello usually this guy is highly questionable. This guy's always highly questionable but today I feel like I'm the most highly questionable. What do you like on the show? Today is a good year. I love talking about Steve spurrier anytime that's true me too puppy. He's so they can ride. We upset with the giants. He sounds free not that he restrained himself much when he was with the giants but he likes this new Cleveland situation feels disrespected by the giants because they didn't tell him to his face that he was going to be traded and frankly they were lying to us as well publicly saying month beforehand that he wasn't going anywhere and the next thing you know he is gone. I understand why a star our employees would feel like that is a bit of disrespect for someone you wrapped up a lot of money. In I understand why you would say disrespect me at that amount of money but what I thought was interesting about what he said was man. I was holding that brand up. I was getting us on Primetime television. We were five and eleven on Primetime television when he says he's holding up the brand of the New York football giants. If you know about the pomposity of the people running the New York football giants you know why he's no longer with the New York football giants yeah I understand and the idea of disrespect but to me that wasn't really the headline here. He says he wouldn't change what happened for the world. He's ridiculously happy about where he is and so to look back and think that the giants disrespected him. Obviously they did him a favor. He was carrying this franchise. He was carrying around a quarterback that was well past his prime and for what five and eleven as he said the interesting quote to me the most interesting quote here is when he's asked about whether he was thinking about ever playing different sports and what that would have looked like now and he said Yeah I think about that every every day in the moments that down and it just made me realize that this superstar mega athlete was down in the middle of New York City in their football team he should be so happy now being with his friend Jarvis Landry and a team. That's supposed to be good and he's going to be you star where they're not worrying about his past whether or not he kicked a net. It's a shame that New York couldn't embrace. This kind of superstar because New York has always been very good with this kind of personality and when you look at what's happened here. The Cleveland Browns were interesting. They're young. They're fun. They're quarterback might be something special but the reason that team is the most interesting team in the sport. This year is because this dude joined it. He would have loved. You stayed in the Big Apple Writer. You know we're all the action. Thomas scored the big bill only financial sector you know what I mean and she's wearing the coat them in the wing time you know worked around Times Square. What is what is going to in Cleveland Cleveland things except the Cote none of those things except the Cote Du the Lakers legitimate complaint about how can we handle free agency when you are a loser in the free agent chess game? This is how you react sometimes a lot worse like Dan Gilbert did that one time you had your entire plan blown up install because Kawhi Leonard wasn't available made it look like he was available and in retrospect. It seems like he wasn't any kind of available. The Lakers were the third choice and how gangster is that on top of all his other gangster moves that on top of everything else surprising I think everybody trading for Paul George leaving the country that he had just won a championship in to go back to his hometown. He also did it slowly enough to screw the team that plays in the building with him and catch Lebron James from behind that is a master stroke from. From a guy who never gave us any indication that that's how he did business and why is it wise responsibility to work at these teams pace. It's his free agency. It's not there's an so toronto complaining about him wanting the Sun and the moon and the stars he I went over to a team in a city the country he didn't even want to go to in the first place did everything you could possibly ask a player and brought you a championship of course he can ask for the sun the moon and the stars and everything else as for the Lakers if they thought coli live they thought they were the front runner for Kawai and held off on all these other free agents it is ridiculous lack of self awareness on their part and it's consistent with the lack of self awareness. They've had throughout the last few years you needed to go ahead and build your team and not believe leave. The KAWHI Leonard was going to come to you unless you had a very good reason to believe that nobody knows what he's going to do. You thought you did I love the idea though that Lebron might literally pass a hallway in his new home across Leonard and given the silent entreated can't win. They're either because that's all gives you ever do you respect it running beer more or less developing another move that lucile trouble I do not like that. The Houston Rockets play the way they do. This is not aesthetically pleasing styling however when you say a new move in basketball I feel like you can't even invent one of those except that he already has the thing that he does with that setback the thing that he does when he gets fouled on three pointers. That's not stuff I've seen so let's listen here and find out what this new move is. Eighty do that traveling step Giovanni everybody seizing the Navy especially especially high of liberal basketball. You gotta find ways to get better everything here. You got to find ways of freedom advantage every year and that's what I'm doing you know and it's not trouble this year. I'M GONNA come up with some more creative that is gonNA look like travel but it's not the first of all that was pretty savage of that kid traveling step back right in front of the dudes face but I'll say this you go back and you look at Alan Iverson when he crossed over people people thought that was a carry early on and then eventually maybe you got called for a few but he fixed it and it was one of the greatest moves who's in N._B._A.. History Bob Ryan told the story one time and he might tell it today on around the horn spoiler alert about Kevin McKell. We've got that Bob Ryan and observation. I sorry Bob About a work movie was working on and he said he couldn't do it because everybody's GonNa think it's to travel same thing with James. Harden people were mocking him early on about that travel by the end of the year. It was the most respected move in the league and impossible to defend. I'm dying to see what this new movies and whether or not it's a travel it's a move that will disappear about the second or third round of the playoffs. Hang Hello. Hey how are you doing. What's going on? What's going on? You think that James Harden should be banned from the happy for live life play Dan. I mean trouble move. You know what I mean. He wants to come up with an I know what's going on with. You are never ask okay Italian tired you everything. Do you respect this defense barrier more or less for wearing a championship ring from a League that never declared champion all right so the was here for seven seconds. All you remember about it is that. That it failed spectacularly but Steve Spurrier was seven and one for the Orlando Apollo's and he's wearing his af championship ring there. It is congratulations to the mighty spurrier. Is that an Apollo. Is that what that is cubic zirconiums linnea. Is that a Manarang. Can they afford the ring. Can the team afford the ring great question. Here's a little story about Steve spurrier covered him in college. I went to school at Florida. Pull them aside one day after work after the little media huddle started talking to introduce myself wasn't wasn't sure if he really knew who I was. He said Hey yeah you're that guy who wrote that column in the alligator the other day about me and bobby stoops getting into a fight and I said yeah that was me he goes yeah. I thought it was pretty stupid and I liked him more somehow. There's nothing this guy can insane like a professional. He'll I love to do no matter what he says to me. No matter how stupid he thinks back Yau wing convince you that he should keep fighting. Keep fighting because you've got tax problems which I think the only reason he is still fighting but it was fairly amazing to watch what happened against he Thurman Given all the key Thurmond said before that fight about pack yells little T. rex arms and then those little T. rex arms knocked him down in the first round and win by split decisions surprise is over a man much younger than him Thurman had looked weak but the idea that packed out could take him down and now continue his career is a blight on boxing. It's not a celebration of the guys won eight titles and congratulations to him but the idea that he's still winning affording it's not because he's that great it's because he's got tax problems and he happened to be this guy who decided to fight with a really open style yeah but manny is a fighter what he does. He's also a senator but he's a fighter right and so like at forty years old if you can do this just go ahead and keep doing it like if he's meeting a thirty year old even by split decision. It's encouraging people to say hey stay in the team and go ahead and do it. I sort of compare this to a Venus Williams situation. Manny pack yells not going to be dominant in dominate the welterweight title anymore. He's not going to but if he can find some success chesapeake can find some happiness if you can find some relief from his tax problems and go ahead and keep fighting. I just don't think anybody should say hey expect the world out of Manny Pacquiao again. He's forty years old coming up next on my cell Stevie show thirty seven and then he just wait a minute. Let me see the end of that very last hold on a second. Let me see the end of that that he's scored the third one and then just headed dude knocked him sidewise. Oh No no my songs T._v.. Show is brought to you by T._D.. Ameritrade let's is considered the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly she has no brain however when in a most nesting doll here's the Geico not only saves as people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years she thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer pity the innermost nesting dollond her lot in life time completely games a lot of rage. Do you give us topics and events and question them. Do you question if you slept uneasy bass player in the you know how good. Uh and famous and charismatic you have to be to make us consistently talk about M._l._s. last week we had this video clip when he was asked if he was better than Carlos Vela who is actually statistically a better player so far this year and M._l._S. less. There's another player in Los Angeles Carlos Vela in this moment is got nineteen goals twelve assists and his team is leading major league soccer. Do you still consider yourself the best player major league soccer for because the visiting in his praying L. Lizzy cars best twenty nine twenty nine Melissa Uneasiness Product was twenty nine where it was you were in Europe big difference all right hold on a second. I WANNA replay that again for you because of the arrogance of the confidence but what I I want you to also see is the way that he setting and how his head is because he's going to ponder this for a second. He is thinking look at him. He is in thinking mall right here and then he says what I think is a lot better than this dude. There's another player in Los Angeles Carlos Villa in this mummy's got nineteen goals twelve assists and his team is leading major league soccer. Do you still consider yourself the best player major league soccer for because the needs praying old cars West Twenty nine twenty nine says Melissa Uneasiness Uneasiness Product <hes> twenty nine where was you were in Europe all right so unbelievably. This guy arrived in Los Angeles and he says you're welcome Los Angeles when he arrives and then the first game he scores a goal that nobody in the League can store. He's got a bicycle kick goal and then against Vela when villa scored two goal did this to answer all that talk with that posture and that confidence and those killer words that took out not just Bela <hes> <hes> put all of M._l._S. because it made that he wasn't even not even good enough for him and his prime and then he does this. I don't think anybody in sports back up their words better than slots right now. He's thirty seven years old. He's thirty seven getting me did he. Just wait a minute. Let me see the end of that very last clip hold on a second. Let me see the end of that that he's scored the third one and then just headed dude sideways. Is that well we just saw. Let's see the end of this to celebrate it. Get it off me. Do you question Jake Rain. This served to be sent to three play after losing this game. We've got a tie game in extra innings here. We've got the winning run on first base. Raim is on the mound what happens it seems to have done his job. Oh come well. We could send Smith with him saying wait a minute. Why are we blaming that on rains in the whole team? What about why? Why did he get said they had to blame somebody? They can send the whole organization down and nobody would notice. Do you know what they meant still when they do that. Blame it on the rain pretty good. That was pretty good. I'll give him that one doing away. We'll salty. You Love Dwayne. Wade you know commenting. Let's see what we have here at a clinic involving. The kid what he says oh no no she's going to now take assaulting eighteen is that was that was definite salt right there. Put yourself in these situations and if you're gonNA get embarrassed do not take it out on her. Yes yes he was salty obscene going away do worst Waikiki. Oh Yeah baller that street baller. Oh wait a minute. Hey on the other kid's laughing. They're both of them. I wish he'd stop that question whether these I was too eager to get their car wash four we get to this person. Let's check in with a car washing person from last week. Do you remember this so this woman is very eager to leave the car wash. She's gotTa get Outta here. Look that way all right. We've got an extra wash there that where you clean the interior material <hes> let's check the next one. Let's check what we have here. Do you question whether this person was too eager to get his car wash. Oh God what the hell happened. My father said correct thing there what happened. You can't run it through the car. Wash love the idea that guy getting hit in the head with a spice guy with the hose. Look familiar to me. It didn't Oh yes. This is not the same guy this father another. This is not the same guy that guy that guy would have been run over and position you would've been run over from their questionably broadcast from the Cleveland Their Hotel Beautiful South Beach Miami time to blend again that love love the rolls at least two of them to fool and at that point you're looking at like thirty a five dollar loan Jennifer Sullivan Worth See. Oh no you tell us what to watch on television tonight. We'll tell you for intrigue in the Ontario Lacrosse Association Senior B League playoffs the Owen Sound North Stars ours verse the six Nations River Men that was senior. He likes it anytime anyone mentioned senior. We've got a Lacrosse indoor Lacrosse in Ontario. What are we have it go there? It is in the back yeah. That's legitimately good fight right. They're not so good that number seventy seven is watching it instead of fighting guy next to him. Oh there we go. It's escalating come on seniors number. Fifty two's uniform is big. It would be small on me but that's a big uniform. He's like a hundred twenty pounds under there aw throwing blogs so some more thrown gloves at the end is you're just senior senior B league a-league embarrassed by this display. What about you PAPI? Are you intrigue. ooh very three annoy Lacrosse player. They wouldn't want to fight. Which one is it that guy? The guy that goes on that guy's uniform fits properly. Actually how big is oh man. Are you kidding me that right. There is a punctured Lo long on the packers in Baton Rouge Louisiana. L._S._U.'s news new Locker Room when I think of Ed ordure on I think of many things you know sounds like a cajun swamp monster drinks. A dozen energy drinks a game what I don't think of at all it's very low on the list. Technology is not one of the things I think about but here's locker room now at l._S._U.. Check it out the species this. This is why you come to L._S._U.. Twenty million dollars it costs none of them are being paid. They spend it all on chairs. Is there you intrigue. I think that that's really cool because they can't pay the players yet at least make them feel really special why they're while they're there. I think that's cool wait until they lose a game and they start taking away some of that stuff. How `bout you popular you and tree both C._C.? L. Very intrigued. You say something about coach. Oh yes I did wrong. How sure are you? I'm pretty sure that's just the same Fred. Flintstone body type everything about that clip says at ordure on Fox Sports Ohio reds in brewers apparently those sexy the Cincinnati reds in one thousand nine hundred sixty one love to come to the ballpark with guns a blazing sleeveless uniform so the Cincinnati reds of today are getting jacked up. That's Dietrich on the left. We got counted description description. Everyone Yeah Dietrich. He'll be anywhere their weights anywhere he will come and do it every quick actually not that quick a pump ground things put this away. biceps are fairly useless when it comes to hitting home runs honestly number sixty six doesn't have any time for your weight training. Is there you intrigue. I mean come on wearing shirts. It's Kinda might oh that's right. Let's go put that screen there. You go look at that. Look at that sexiness heated up. All of you yeah put a vest offering get popular. You Intrigued Uh C. C. H. E. police it number sixty six fixes. Yes he'll bleak. What's the matter with? I thought he would like the way I didn't think he would want to throw them out. That's the last guy on the team I thought would throw him out of bunks. You WanNa see some bows guns. No I'm actually prefer to see the buns not the gun. Let's see what you've got poppy. Let's see the buns. They're outside right here. Oh I mean enough trouble already. That's happened to that. Thank you for washing. I'll be back tomorrow maybe to get one of those shirts without sleeves.
Ep 184: "CEO, Bitch!" with Julie Schott of Starface
"Hey It's Jessica I love every time time how you start off differently I'm Jen and this is fat Mascara as you standing there with our hands outstretched just doing pose just just power posing I like it how are are you. I'm okay. How do you like showing off? Your growing baby is what you're doing. I don't know if I can actually show it off. Just Kinda here it shows itself. Can I just say I'm very very much enjoying this experience and having it with you because right now I don't know what we were on or whatever but it's like the hair week because your hair looks gourd. Thank you got to blow it out dry bar yesterday also long in luscious and failing and I know people say that department people all the time but it looks do thank you so much thank you. What's going going on in our lives what's going on? Let's see I'm just I'm just GONNA hit week. Twenty eight on Friday. which is the beginning of the third trimester which I can't believe? Oh my gosh wow I know and I'm starting to feel a lot of third trimester like feels I fact check them against like I I felt am I and I was like Oh my God how do they know me you know it's like reading like a horrid do what is it I'm peeing. Noticed that yes you are yeah. It's horrible I'm paying every day. I wake up in the middle of the night and have to be an hurts. It hurts to get out of the bed like I feel like a folded up cardboard. Oh and it hurts to stand up. It hurts. It's crazy. I'm going to tell her all these stories about how what you went through. All my God When she's a little one but never you guys fear because we still have tons of fun episodes injustice going to be here Jen's life hold on? She thinks she's off the hook. No because I was GonNa talk about an upcoming episode. I wanted to prompt. Everyone about or EPO was just just give us give us a fun fact. Act what's what's been filling your your your non working hours outdoor time you know me. I'm going hiking you've been at storm King. You've been Larry. I get in the car car and we just like get out of the city every weekend and I wanna go climate like hanging out in Brooklyn on the weekend. No Love Brooklyn but I just WanNa be outdoors at all times. Even if it's freezing cold out that's nice no I I feel that way now to actually like to be outside of you that fresh air. Yeah Yeah Place. That's my life is not as exciting as yours right now. I don't know about that. Don't worry we have excitement for you at fat Mascara before we talk about this week's episode you guys have been asking for a while and we wanted to get the perfect person. We will be talking about multi multi level marketing. which is there are several social selling beauty companies? which is something different but also other beauty companies that basically get you to sell products to your friends friends and then your friends sell products to other people and you guys have a lot of questions about these questions we you know? There's a lot of skepticism. But then there are people who are have had a great experiences too. So we're getting an unbiased expert professor faster business. Yes she's GonNa come on and so just hit us with your questions. E mail them to Info at atmosphere or send them D M. We're we're here for if there's a particular brand and you want to know. Is this okay or not. Okay tell us with that is. We're GONNA get into all the details with her in an episode that we're recording in mid December until then let's talk beauty. So what's what's deck for today. Well this week in millions of dollars that I'm not making in the beauty industry. That's what we're talking about Kylie's big money influx and then after that because I've been spending all this time outdoors. This is something that came up with me but also on our facebook group. How do you deal with the issues in the skin? Facial issues in the out win. You're in cold cold weather but also when you have a cold or flu and you're blowing your nose. Lot is that time of year so we have some help for you okay and then our special guest is the a fabulous Julie's shot. Some of you guys may know her from instagram. Or Her bioline when she was the beauty director of L. Dot Com. She has a new line called star face. which if have you ever have had a pimple get pimples? You should be interested to learn about her new product. Plus we do a little catching up in the world. So Julie was a great interview. Stay with us. Will it finally happens. You're having a baby. No funnier the second time around and we started this segment before and I said the same joke but I think it's still funny canoes. Okay it's not all about me John. Okay Kylie Jenner. Our sold fifty one percent stake of her company to cody. Yes and how much money is that. you're GonNa make me do math six hundred It's kind of crazy. It's six hundred million dollars. They paid which values the company. And this is what got me. One point two billion dollars. Do you know another brand that had at one point two million dollar valuation. Don't you share with the group it cosmetics had the same thing. Okay I was. I was really surprised by this. This is not the largest evaluation we've seen though When Estee Lauder companies bought two faced I believe that was one point four five billion and this is you know a drunk elephant happened earlier this year you and I was a was a meagre eight forty five million again that just being skin-care worse Kylie is just color correct as far as doing. She's doing skin. She has Kylie Skin. Okay that makes a little bit more sense to me. I have to be honest. I'm not as up on her brand I after the lip kits. It's is sort of like there was just a lot out bowed out but they were nice. They were fine but I didn't speak to me but obviously it's been doing well and people responding into it and she doesn't have to deal with all the pressure of retailers because she has such a strong director consumer business model right. Yeah I feel like I'm missing. Thank something here like I. Six hundred million dollars sides that and I would go home to it. You know my little apartment. I feel like I'm missing An guys don't like hate on me but like I don't get the appeal of this brand of this brand of her. It's not for me but I I. Ah You know. Maybe I'm just not the demo but even if I were somebody who were maybe this is why I'm on board at cody but I- nest. I wouldn't necessarily. I think that this is a brand. That's going to grow. I know but I thinking about what Cody is good at and what they've done what he was. The brandit like did celebrity fragrances. Back in the day. They started not not them who right. So they have that experience of knowing that celebrity cells in a way that like we. We didn't expect to win. You Know Britney spears came out with her perfume did anybody think that was going to end up being millions and millions of dollars j.lo's on like perfume numbers. She's like. Is it twenty five or thirty abrasive about that so if you pick the right celebrity I think cody better than anyone knows that celebrity cells and then they have color cosmetics brands like covergirl for girl but I feel like they needed a little bit of influx whereas estee lauder is buying two faced and laurels getting other fun. Young things just gets drunk elephant. They needed like a like A. Wow Sal factor like a big league Something buzzy something buzzy. Not just because they think this company is GonNa make money but to make their investors feel good and to show like look. We're still with it. We we've got our You know finger on the pulse I just wonder like how long is she going to be. How long has she going to be popular? How long her set going to be popular? She has absolutely no authority Gordon. Skin care at all and people are very excited about Kylie skin. I know so. I'm talking myself into the reasoning that executives had which is which is probably that sure this says good but like everything else I just said which is the learnings. They'll get from her of how she connects with younger women and then the celebrity factor of course and the buzz. They're getting around this. Is Cody Kinda you know. They need a win every now and then to show look where like right. You got L'OREAL snapping up stuff Shiseido Estee Lauder But personally I don't see it either but I do feel like she does no beauty. I've I have. I interviewed her. No I've interviewed Kim and interviewed Khloe yet yet and they know beauty like more than any other celebrities. I've talked to or some of the Mike no fashion or whatever they get what products work and they know how to make good products do you. Annuity means do though she must I mean just because she's not my my my gal my I get I. She's probably just somebody that I can't I personally can't relate to her personally. Don't WANNA buy skin care you know from it surprises me that even how old is she is she. But she's she's twenty twenty two years old. I know but I'm always surprised by the people that come in the closet and ask for Kylie cosmetics. That's true because it's a it's a large age range. Those lip products are like not just for the young ones. I wonder if she also does very well overseas. I did not do my homework on international sales for colleague cosmetics. I'm so sorry. I don't think that they're available. I I know this was going to be business. One a one segment but no no. I'm saying like if just like how a lot of celebrity fragrances are no longer like hot in the the. US They played really well other countries. And here we go with evaluation if she has not yet then with the muscle of cody and ability to ship internationally and bring it to other her yeah countries. Then you're like quadruple more than quadrupling sales. You can make because she's one of those celebrities. That isn't just an American celebrity. I think she's international national correct. I don't I don't know what her popularity having traveled a lot for my job at Mary Clare Late Day. She's International for sure So I think that's really really what they were thinking when they did this but good Lord was the next sale going to before. I'm just waiting for like I don't know two billion I know all of these flayed and numbers It's like we work all over again. You know it's going to go the company we were. You know what I mean I feel like beauty is going to have. It's like we were could beauty bubble and some of the news and to wrap this up some news I've been seeing is like will this bubble burst And are we at peak investment. Ud Right now. I hope not. 'cause pays our bills just talking talking about it right well. Best of luck to cody. Best of luck to Kylie. Come on the show and talk about it. Yeah okay. It's that time of year where you sit down in a meeting at work. Like everybody's got nostril. Flakes redness discoloration shing around their nose people scratching those nostril flakes sick. You're not picking your nose but you kind of our. Yeah it's like maybe because it skin this doesn't look like I'm picking a book until until reaching for something at your nose. I know skin gets flaky. This time of year people have dryness that never have dryness before. It's both your no sticks out in the wind right and it's ration- The wind for you in the cold weather but also everybody's got a damn cold and they're sniffling all around the office even if you're not blowing your nose just the act of having the you you know I almost said saliva with Stephens. I guess yeah just at that dries out your nostrils. What do you do? Here's my plan when I have a colder. PS This came up on our facebook group our private facebook group. I hope you guys are all a part of it please. Joy in the link is on our website. It's also on our instagram. Hit the aline trae But what I do is i. I have zero actives policy zero active. Yes I don't want any vitamin C.. I don't don't want any flu-like acid. I don't want any cholic acid. I don't want anything that is trying to shed or reveal or do anything. The thing that is mildly like transformative. What I'm trying to do is put water back into the skin so I keep it very basic? Get people really underestimate estimate hydration. Everyone's so obsessed with them. You know revealing revealing revealing like turning skin cells over We need to like put our heads back back on straight. hydration is like what's going to make you look gorgeous youthful plum so I go for either the keells hydro plumping Sarum. Do you put it on your actual nostrils. Yeah put all over. It's great it's just. It's a drink on the edge of the nostril. And then you feel like you look give gunk in there or you rub it in like you're rubbing Sierra that it just it blends into the skin so beautifully. It's not like a it's not matt. It's kind of like a satiny right beautiful serum it goes like a jail that's not sticking okay The other one. I know you'RE GONNA agree with us. I feel like you might even say this. The Willa skin food sat. What is the absolute best? Because that's like a little a moisture scheme asking. I like to put it on so thick that you can see it and just like as long as now you can just leave it on there and then either tissue it off. That's great kit but my better tip. Okay tissues with lotion in them. If you're if if you have a cold I I try and get their fingers for you on. Was it harder but Kleenex soothing. Lotions with Lotion Aloe. Have you ever pulled a tissue out when someone has these on their desk. And you're just like isn't this a delight with ones I buy. Oh see to me. It's like a special purchase because usually when I'm buying tissues I buy the cheapest thing possible. Oh No I can't put at that against my face. I've learned this lesson this actually. This is a crime like it actually pays to pay the premium for this. Does my husband brought home once like some tissues and they. They weren't that he didn't. He was very sweet. He picked me picked up the two. You know but I did kind of like. I've felt like Crestfallen when I saw that. They were just normal Komo cleaner. 'cause I'm forcing myself through a regular tissue box right now which. I don't know why I'm doing like how much you tissues cost like three or four dollars. A box at Dwayne Reed. Newark like ninety being leased for ninety nine for ten sheets which is why buy the cheap ones but honestly when I have a cold or when it gets cold out it is so worth splurging on the lotion tissues. I think it really makes no lawrence another good one. What about seven years ago? Tell me the cool touch ones the ones that are frigging cooling. They have lotion and they're cool so a delight to use but I actually looked looked and there's a little bit of Menthol and I was worried that that might be dry to dry out. You know. No it's like so negligible. You're fine okay. So that is my one thing that would later and then since I go hiking king outside so much I know this is gross. But I'm just going to tell you I think part of the poop and I have done that said I climbed the mountain on a glacier. And you're when you're on a glacier they sure you can't actually it feeds aquifers for entire cities so you have to do it in a bag and bring it back down just shared that with you there you go. I'm sharing personal formation. That you say no I take a Q.. Tip with Aquaphor and I do it on just the inside rim of my nostril. Because I think it's that edge where it really Lee starts to flake because you'll moisturizer outer skin and you assume that you're inside of your nose is moist but when the wind is blowing. It's not so I do. It feels Kinda gross and doesn't look great but it makes such a difference to do a little ring of aquaphor inside my nostril. Very nice in. Can I offer one more tip. Don't poop in a bag now. I know the tip is really good. with with accuser. Thank you I feel like if you have a cold. Your eyes get glassy and like they get smaller. Yes yes so I like to put just a a a wash of Shimmery Pale shadow so maybe whites. You're saying maybe like Beige or apricot. Something that's going to open the eye area than and you'll like this crawl your lashes and then a waterproof Mascara because you're either going to be teary at all like whether it's allergies or a cold because the tissues near face and everything so waterproof Mascara crashes and then something Shimmery to open up the eye and you just look a little bit more awake and revive I will take all those and Edwin War Luma fi drops Ah Okay they're like the brightening won the AL allies as they call them at work. Yes I feel like your blood. Vessels are very inflamed and you can read her in the eyes and those really whiten up. Your is nice so do all that stuff. Don't look like a like you're suffering through you know. Climb on Mount Rainier Mountain Mike Goldstein. You don't want that. I wash your hand. Sorry Jensen Goldstein Sullivan. That's right I changed my name. Is it Golden Sullivan Jennifer Sullivan. It's Jennifer Sullivan. But I moved my last name. My parents name seem to be my middle name. Did you have middle name before I did. What was it? Aaron A. R. Y. N. like Aaron Louder but spelled differently. Yeah didn't you bring this up with Erin. I 'cause it's spelled differently. It's cool though my mom's listening she's GonNa hate this by say this always. Why couldn't she of news me Erin? I think as a beautiful names they. They spelled it so pretty. I was thinking about that for my baby by. Didn't want the lottery to be freaked out. Oh szeswith me. No you felt like my middle name and you can even whereafter. I'm texting you right now. Regime bit that's a beautiful name. Okay bye and and we are here with Jewish shot an investigative journal. It sounds like tonight horses. We are here with Julie. Shot of. She was an editor at Echo Jane. She was a beauty editor at l.. Beauty Director Dr L. Dot Com and. She's written a ton of other places you definitely know her name and her byline now though. She's the CO founder CEO CEO Pinch. That's awesome we have so many questions for you is good to see you. She's also La guys saying hey I only It feels weird to ask you as we know you. I know you're like a colleague of ours A well respected much adored colleague. But I'M GONNA have to introduce introduce other people to you or you other people who are so cook. Oh please why how did you guys. It's crazy beatty game. I'm I've I just always kind of been somebody who likes to hang out at CVS. where I like to shop Yeah I love beauty products. I Love Self Care I think it's such an easy point of of connection between different people And so it Kinda started there and obviously you are writer and editor it or like us but I was so proud of you because in twenty seventeen year like I'm done Shag Hero. Everything is changing in the media world. And I'm sure in your personal life as well but why did you decide you're the beauty director at L. Dot Com And you said I'm done how. Ah I loved that job so much You could tell you could tell from your right. Who loved it and Yeah I was just in any time. Mr Was I was ready. I really was set on moving to La I was in a relationship that took me there and I just kind of had a few plans that that required changing directions like even though I loved that job and part of that plan was starting this company. Yeah so we're going to get into the company but I thought something interesting happened around that time time is well. It's obvious that you still need an outlet for a lot of your ideas and your stories so other than freelance writing. I feel like your instagram account. became sort of a way to t- to write stories really and share with women in the same way you would have online. was that just like a hobby or create valid or you being strategic and thinking like this is where I will put put up my content. Now no I was totally not being strategic but exactly like you said like you just have ideas and need an outlet and I've always been a lot of writers talk about they write too much and it's like this huge Labor to cut down their words but I've always kind of been the opposite which I think why that Internet transition was was like write a clear path. I'm like oh I'm writing caption link tweet link That's like how my brain works and how it instagram story. Yeah it's like that medium is just like perfect for that. Yeah Just you want to talk about our favorite piece of content so one of the instagram stories. And it's a team that that really struck a chord. It seems with your audience. I think I know Hashtag poop talk. Yeah Yeah so why. Why did you want to go? Go down this path. Like what are you truly like that children's book just because everybody poops the and it's like the lowest common denominator but also like the most uniting thing possible and they show like the animals pooping who truly little red angry face uh-huh and Yes I didn't think like when I posted tub of prunes that anyone would want to talk about it but everyone wanted to talk about it about themselves so so this was a this was again. This was not strategic. No I getting any great social media lessons from Julie. Everything is like. I don't know it just just successful. No Komo no no so I was doing it and I was like I started to take it seriously. No but it became a place. I remember. You would ask about constipation. I think that was ear issue but a lot of women's issue and she would solicit answers and they genius. Somalia had super specific recipes. Everyone had a recipe for how they keep it moving. What was the just before me on like? Let's get some service. What was the top recipe that you learn if only to feel like light and fray yet people? People had different SMOOTHIES Like a Husk Husk of something. That was like a popular asylum. Yeah exactly with like some type of powder But and coffee. Obviously then the funniest thing the thing I loved his when people would say something that had nothing to do with a bowel movement. It just those things happened together. They'd be like a Muffin from Dunkin donuts. No that's just breakfast and that's just I've heard this brand certain foods I there's a couple of certain foods that really do it for me and there's nothing in them that would it's just second. What cheetos they never heard that but just the spicy hot? I don't know you asked fired by Julia to share my plea deals. But that's something that I feel like you do really well. You don't shy away from the unglamorous side of beauty and wellness even not on your instagram. Just the stories you've written but it's weird weird because we've always noted that a lot of beauty companies. They don't like to be funny and they don't like this show an unperfect. Even when they're doing like the unprotected thing like Harry a Harry Armpits for razor company or you know they they still have the perfect visiting of plus size model who is basically a regular model. Yeah whereas as men's grooming. They'll go there with advertising marketing. Why do you think so? Many women's focused beauty companies are afraid to do that. Still I think it's still just pretty sanitized is D- You know. The images are still made to be very polished and clean and and like traditionally feminine. Yeah so it's like of course now it's changing changing but in the past You know just even thinking about what goes in magazines like the especially with like print magazines the things that I remember number like just obsessing over How they needed to look? Yeah and it's not the case. Yeah I don't think so. This'll be a good time. Maybe talk to star face. 'cause I from the beginning. It seems like you're ready to be like let's just talk to people normal and be funny and the way you would with your friends Tell us what star faces what you're what the company's about and you know what your first product yeah so star faces an acne support system for everyone And it's just supposed posted you know help people think about acne. Maybe a different way than than they have been You know especially young people because if you think about what it's like to have breakouts says a teenager it's kind of like this all consuming experience You know oftentimes I continues into adulthood and Like for me. Not even as a beauty editor with like the best dermatologists and facialists. And all of this information I still had acne. Because that's just how my skin is And so yeah with star face. I just a think like the Mike favorite feedback that I get from people as when they say. I'm really excited to get a pimple in which people say all the time and so I think that's cool because like I have like I still going to get pimples. I'm still GONNA get my period so for for people who don't know what it is. What is your product so the so the first product was a is a hydrochloride pimple patch and the shape of a star so the idea is to to treat eight and decorate at the same time Because for me it was so I was so like sick of having to put makeup on my acne to feel L. professional or to feel like a grownup And so I kind of just was like fuck that you know what is hydro. What's the word use hydrocortisone? Yeah so Heidrick Loyd is a wound dressing. That's been around since World War One and it just like draws out infection and protects looks like a pimp wound basically especially when it's open so it's a of a pimple with like a whitehead type of thing is really juicy and Nice to pop you know if you put the hydrochloride on it then helps to draw out that fluid and flatness flatness you wake up and it's flatter and and these these little patches there Mike Star shapes and you're wearing some now yeah so this is. This is a caller way that we have coming out this week next week. Yeah Yellow. But she's got on red and green. You can have rock star. I was thinking like Christmas Over Heathrow the LAN actually right back to to the star shaped like this. This like jaw one right here. The arms really helped to grip those like AAC contoured parts of your face. Oh other than around hat and even thought of that like I like to. I mean I've heard from other people when they get them around their nose like the little arm just goes right there. That's actually quite true. In every place for Commercial Sekou. I've had many. Here they work in the little crevices. Yeah Hey so but why did you want to start star face now because this is how long it took. It took me two years started. Yeah I wanted just started a while ago. It took much longer than ever says that. But it really takes longer than you think well and it happened to hit at a time when you know. There's always kind of like that that feeling feeling in the universe when like it was the same way that CBD like one minute there is a good coffee shop here and there that had cbd and then it became like this all encompassing ingredient. Do you think we're GONNA see a lot more stickers for shores. Yeah so what you know. It's funny like when I was younger if I had you know pimple it would either other stay home from school or cover it up with a ton of like pancake concealed. I look worse. Why do you think that this audience is more receptive? or The you hope that audiences more receptive to stickers on your face I think the I think it's really cool like Gen Z.. Seems I have a different attitude towards themselves yourselves and and how they really look like I did when I was growing up when I was like. You know obsessed with Britney Spears and like how to look like a Barbie doll unlike sanitize my entire body. Let's not it's not so appealing Jimmy work. The the board game girl talk and the things you put reds. It's on your face stickers. It was like a little longer than we are so horrible but like it was good you get to pick up the phone and call a ball line that was the sequel. If so Hetero normative first of all and they were all like little white. Boys named Chad was definitely. There was like Chad. There was like it was the like who looked like Mario Lopez that was like their attempted. Messed up on the phone and you get a red sicker dot traumatizing. So that's where you get those ideas. That pimples are punishment. Yeah do I have to say like I. I feel like I'm a little of a little late to this. I I remember being at Teen Vogue and doing the acne awards and somebody had said you know have have to give them credit. I think it was sue Williamson MHM. Sen- she was like you know we should show girls with acne and I was like table that as he was like so ahead of the game. Yeah Eh because I was thinking this was like three years ago. You know if you want to fight acne don't we want to like not look at It was I understand. It's diet story you're gonNA show somebody You know working out on the beach that kind of but it's a complete paradigm Howard. I'm shift I have to say to be fair. We eventually hit a compromise at it. We fate face painting around act so the other thing. I really been thinking about knowing that you were coming on is that you know you're an editor slash. This may like embarrass you but like insulin. Sir who started a brand Dan and there are so many of them. But I'm always like whenever we meet one. It's like an endless line. Just pop like take us through what Tate's knowledge you know what I mean like. I really wanted to do a mask and now have a mask like what. What did you actually do? You quit your job be moved to La neither brand. Can you help fill in the blanks. So yes oh quit my job move to La had this idea An had no way to bring it to life life at all. 'cause like you need more than idea And then like as you keep it real secret I mean nobody gave a shit about it like I Like a year of just kinda like cold calling and making like snail's pace progress then my one of my closest friends Rachel Stugatz introduced reduced. Me To my now business partner and her future husband and when he and I met and he's this young like hate the word serial entrepreneur. But that's what he is When we met Rachel had just said Oh? Talk to Brian because he might be able to help you Because again I was like really struggling and when we met I I couldn't like really feel him out if he was if he was into this concept at all but like the next few times we met he was like fully on board word and and he was like. Let's do this. Let's like let's do this thing We made it official and then undertook this entire tire process which was like making one product that you would think would be so easy to make which I thought would be so easy to make like every manufacturer said no Oh and etcetera all the regulatory issues that you run into And like over a year later. Then we're able to put it out the first one hauer. They're like regulatory issues. If it's not you know it's just like a band-aid more or less right so like when what are askew was coming so we have a medical manufacturer and the FDA held it up like shook us down because they were like you're a medical device. Pay Up there's no yours doesn't have active ingredients. Greetings right this the first hydrochloride. Just the the wound care but is it because you're saying acne your season. Oh it's because it comes. I think it's a combination of because it comes from a medical manufacturer her because we're a first time distributor and because like I mean it's a business like they wanna make money so yeah and you also and it also comes in that like adorable adorable little case that truly I was like this is like quality merchandise right here. I don't even I use them up and I use the case for. I'm sure you have to make that in a whole other factory right like all the things things that go into that. It's all yeah. It's it's all put together in a distribution center in the US And did your partner help you. Like fine distribution August Olivo slaying. Brian and I are like we do. I've never it's like the most functional relationship I've ever been in like we we because people's sexiest how we split up responsibilities ladies. It's really intuitive. And we just share everything but we also know when somebody's GonNa kind of take the lead and when the other one's going to take the lead and and he's just he's so so smart and so good at what he does and He's also like my brother in law now so fast so they get married. They're getting married On the day after Thanksgiving and I'm their minister Hama Reverend now yeah like Jewish Reverend but like that's what it says on my certificate you you get Jewish Reverend. It's did you get for the Universal Church of life which is where you get certified. That's what they call you. Did you get the window cling in the parking thing. Yeah I have Who officiated hers? we are our friend did and we got him certified. We ended up getting married at the courthouse so he didn't actually need the unique universal church of life but so we got it for him anyway because he was running a significant and it comes with like a bumper sticker this this random merch like a clip on Like to make you look official US looking thing and their survey recruit other people. There's also a parking thing so we because I guess you get better parking if reverend. So He's been you said he's going to try to use the parking everywhere you just like. Maybe you'll be less likely to get a ticket with your taxes Zimmer religious organization. That's amazing. Well I hope it goes well. I'm sure you're going to be great. Let's talk about Hydros Stars for a second. I just WanNa see what has hasn't response been so if people liked the way they're working or are they more excited about the community that you're building around. Acne acceptance. I think it's both People it's funny because they're like say this about US says about myself like because they're so cute they're so outwardly cute. It's almost like people are surprised. How well they work a thing? But but they're exactly the same proven hydrochloride that there's studies that you can find that they're clinically proven. So they just happened to be he is a little bit and aesthetically pleasing shape I also was thinking about this because I went to go look on your instagram account. Today the star faced one. I sometimes hear of your voice in so I'm thinking you're involved in that and I'm one of the Beta accounts I guess in the US it no longer gets like. Oh okay does that either of you. How a AH friend who that happened to you? But how's that it's completely changed the experience for me. I kid you not to the point where I wanted to ask you about it because there your has been a little bit of a palpable shift in the way people are using instagram. Maybe sharing less I feel like and also with what happened in other countries where they took away. The light counts There's like less of a business competitive competitive edge to that and here you are at a point in your life where you like now our CEO and things have you changed the way you've been using being instagram. Even though you built in audience and you're doing poop talking you got to know the people that you're talking to you now that you have this business. Are you changing all my personal one. Her son. Yeah I think I I don't share my I would say don't really share my personal life anymore I I'm so focused on this thing. Sometimes I wonder wonder if it's like too much too much talking about star face but it's the thing that I do every day same as any other job so I'm really focused on it but I I don't know yet don't really share like my like relationship stuff for like friends things like that as much 'cause I guess it does feel more like a like a business business against you but I also think about it like I don't know I remember with with like beauty writing. It was like you never wanNA write anything unless it's a service. Like what service am I giving people. If I'm just like look at me in such and such like which do a lot of but I feel like the services the shared experience because then I can be like talking to other people like. Did you see that because we don t look there's new TV. Show anymore. That I talked about like I do what. TV Show Asha Ninety fiancee. Oh God unless we did yeah. I like them desperate to talk to anyone about that. I Love Ninety Fiance. Go Oh crazy what is it it has single-handedly revived this network. Like it's such a huge franchise. It's like it's done for them. What what real housewives did for Bravo? I mean you get engaged to someone you don't know for ninety days what is it so you do know component so so when you want to marry very a non. US citizen and bring them over to the US permanently. You have ninety days to Get married oh I've read about this. So they are not married at first sight. That's another show where they really don't know each other. No actually the New York Times wrote about it and that's why I read about it over there and now the now the other over here so thing and yet they have the best hands. They called the spin off ninety day. Fiance the other way. Where you're like? Are you guys still pitching on this name. Like ninety yards the other way. I don't even get it like. If you're you're you're going over to like live in Israel or something that is a really simplistic take on what that means and way logically logically not tracking simple culture. We are at various America and like. It's very sad though. Sometimes I was watching I was like how can you watch this. It's so sadly this is poor guy like this. Russia woman took him for a ride. As you ever see this one. Where like she was like? I need this need that. He likes to know that when his tragic. Yes Caesar Yeah and he keeps blaming that this woman is going to show up and he goes to Mexico and she net. But it's like it's really like commentary cultural differences and like how Americans perceive a you've outsiders and like okay. I'm getting more into it as you guys talk about. It adds hardy 'cause most of the Americans on the show or just like they have perceptions about people outside of the. US are crazy but at the same time like some of the players. I mean the cultural differences like the interesting takeaway. I was just an event. And they say we OUGHTA couple no but they said that It was a business event and they were saying to the thing that American business should do. More is the people that work on business travel more because the more you learn about other cultures the better business person you are okay. We're talking about Julie. We're talking about her favorite. TV Shows Ninety Day fiance. No I'm just GONNA happen this words it's in your mouth but we wanted to ask you about beauty products. Oh yeah obviously because you like us have tried everything Okay so what's like top shelf right now. We the open your medicine cabinet. What are you using besides hydro stars So I stopped wearing makeup like for better for worse. Why it because like I don't have to go into an office so there isn't like this idea of like me being presented to me like face makeup like foundation or Jimmy? Like you don't wear having we are like again. I'm not saying like oh I looked better I look good I stopped doing it okay So like all my eyebrows on. Because they're patchy but like knocking knocking aware the other stuff and less feel compelled to which isn't very often. So what are you. Draw your eyebrows on with This really good like double ended. Urban Urban Decay. There's like a felt tip pen on one and a pencil on the other end like that thing lot don't even put Mascara on in the morning. I mean every time I do. I'm like Oh. This leak makes a world of difference but but the last time I wore it I went to like I rarely go out in La. And I like went to this thing and like this girl who I don't know very well came. Came up to me and she was like Oh let me got off for you because it had like smeared under my eyes. Oh has a what would you bonded over it maybe Humiliate million. What are you gonNA come back? You're like you don't go was so unhappy there. I have like such a nice like low key healthy relationship and like like a healthy life life and it like it in La. Do you live in West Hollywood. Okay Yeah and are there any services that we need to know about in La since we're east coast girls girls like who's who's the good good over there get nails done. You know that. Yeah a lake. Oh they're like I mean. This is Brazilian but their Brazilian RMFACC. Drainage people So there is one called like the detox massage La. Then there's another one that I see people going to but ya'll emphatic. Drainage is where it's at Hashtag drainage talk is that Kalanick I've had I had one colonic in Orlando Florida and like so. That's an attraction headline for a story. I you definitely want to read. It was the day after Christmas and it was like in a in a mall. Complex called like a strip mall strip mall. Yeah the top level of Strip mall underneath Mexican as a head shop Yeah and I. It's not for me. I used United States wasn't for you. You know. That sounds sketchy. It was so nice I ever had one. I've really thinks in though I I've never done it either but now I'm thinking of a live fat Mascara. Special or Congenital Galina. Just shoot us from the sorry to keep talking about this brand of TV. But I watch them my strange addiction about a couple that were addicted addicted to coffee. ANIMAS and I the white at so a coffee enema is another another form of you know like lasted a fee up pure but it's like a a tube that goes in there and the OFFI. Here's a lot of hand motion going on guys. This is it. The grains is there liquidated liquidated and then there are inserted and and once they go in they immediately. Come out and flushes you out. But this couple resilient multiple times a day I get the kind of thing is really sir shaking her head out there like dying we to each other like Henry. I'll give you actually. MAYBE THEY WANNA get into that make make their lives easier but no they do it separately. And they've they've to lay down. There's like this mat on the floor but yeah so coffee Enema who talk. Wow Sick I. The girl who ate paper was sick. WHO's the girl that he papers also? There's a lot of my strange addiction. Eating makeup. Compact is shadow palettes. I've heard though that condition Pika and some other ones it's like it might be an inner signal that you need minerals and think about it has it is minerals like iron oxide and all of the pigments and colors so maybe secretly. They're just like vitamin in mineral derived or not the word I'm looking for remedies. Don't have a thank you good thing. We have an editor on the show. Today thank you okay. So we learned. We learned comics. KALANICK's eyebrows any other products are loving before we let you go and sell hydro stars to the millions Oh the this is not new to most people but if only just started carrying about like below the neck because they think with beauty you get so obsessed with your face and your face skin but like I talk about it a lot but necessary think is kind of the first brand that spoken to me. Why why does it speak to you? it's it's like so not intrusive recieve Lot of its unfree grin. Yeah Yeah Just really simple in an appealing way. It looks a lot more expensive than it is. I brought it. I was shooting something thing for star face and all I had was like necessary and like one of the models came in and she used her oliver her face and was totally by the. Yeah I like the Eucalyptus Khalip this one. I know most of its own fragrant. No this the ones that are fragrances are really nice and then yeah very Julie. Thank you so much for pop by excited to see what What your company does next? Because I know there's more plans right anything you can share with us before you leave Yeah no there's a lot of exciting stuff coming in two thousand twenty so oh stay tune. Yeah thanks for having me. It's time to raise a wand as a one to you. Jeff thank you. What are you reading to okay? This is a cheap and cheerful one. Wow it's so good though. I'm really excited about OPTUS. Pantene pro V. Intense Kyushu ask you shots jinx. Wait that's what you're going to say. No but that fucking product is amazing. It's so good so the other day today show and we were doing the Harper's bazaar hair. Ward's I saw you. You were amazing care. Honestly you make it look so easy and I've done those things and I'm like a bird or like a deer in headlights. You looked so cool calm collected. I really enjoy it. I really had a great time. But you mentioned these on that yes and people ask me like I'd lots of texts after like did you really use such and such product like people are very skeptical because they know that sometimes with awards not certainly not Harper's bazaar and my watch but like you you know it's there are many factors okay. I was so psyched to put these pantene intense rescue shots in the Harper's bazaar hair awards they work in. Okay it's a single use tube you squeeze out the whole thing after you shampoo and condition your hair and if you're thinking another step I mean that's what I thought adverse it's one minute and it's very light the low. It feels like a very light lotion. It doesn't fit cream and now you've got to like figure out how to like. Get it through your whole head. It's so freaking good fast acting. You Rinse it out. No clarity gloppy. It feels smooth. It feels silky and the next day. It looks like either like you got a haircut. You gotTA gloss. Your hair's like lighter it's so good and guess what ladies like she's on TV all over again and chess 's okay Five bucks for three. That's amazing I love how you told I got them flying around my soul because i. It's your bathroom so I know like shows us this one yet now is the. MD might still be there plus the full one. They're flying everywhere. It's funny because I have a hair conditioner to and now I'm jealous and I wish I had raised a one to those instead but I'm reading a one two DP who's gloss plus sheer. It's one of those clear. Glosses clear she talked about the John. Frieda one in your I I love I do love that. This one is more conditioning more moisturizing. So if you've thicker hair or curly hair I think this might be the kind of product for you. You put it on after after the conditioner you can leave it on a couple minutes or more It's different than a deep conditioner. Because I really feel like when you blowed especially if you use heat afterwards You get that like reflective sheen makes your hair look healthy so does it feel healthier but like the color looks better and my color actually moved to La. Hi Mary. Kate rush the one telly. Everyone's moving to La. You know everybody it certain age. And they're like I want to be warm and fabulous. La But she's coming back every six weeks so she's still doing my hair but that I need to get colored like every four week UNITA kick. You need something to keep it fresh. I use the DP Hugh I use the root touch up to you for actual color but this just gives me like a refresher to my color And that's thirty five bucks and you can get deep Hewitt Ulta and like everywhere else or get some pantene rescue shots either way. You'RE GONNA have fabulous hair all through the holidays. Thanks for listening fat miscarriages produced by our friends at will media you can check out our website fat Mascara Dot Com. 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"The show we at nine eastern on. Msnbc happy to have you here you know. I told you this is going to be a week with a whole bunch of news in it and today did not disappoint secretary. Sarah good morning to you. We're at a crucial juncture in combating kobe. Nineteen and we've got these new mass guidelines coming down your department oversees the cdc. So i wanna put the question to you. I what we can expect and also it sounds like it's going to be organized around or not. A person is vaccinated. Or not which. I would read as a kind of encouragement to get more people out there to get that vaccination fair to say yeah good morning and thanks for having me and absolutely The message is clear your vaccinated. Guess what you get to return to a more normal lifestyle. if you're not vaccinated you're still a danger ear still in danger as well so get vaccinated you're vaccinated guess what you get to return to a more normal lifestyle if you're not vaccinated you're still a danger meaning danger to other people and you're still in danger yourself as well so get vaccinated if you're vaccinated though you do get to return to a more normal lifestyle. The health secretary in the biden administration. Sarah secretary sarah today bottom liming this new reality this new set of guidance from the cdc bottom liming that pretty succinctly to start the news today we would soon go on to have the cdc and its leadership spell out its new guidance in detail in great detail but that bottom line as outlined by secretary. Sarah still pretty simple. If you get vaccinated says their stuff you can now do safely without a mask. You want to have a cookout with small group of friends and family for memorial day weekend or for this weekend. You can do that without masks on if you are all vaccinated if you're not vaccinated. Well you are both at risk of getting covered yourself even worship research spreading cova to other people so you'll need to keep a mask on for an event like that which frankly will sort of suck if all your vaccinated friends don't have to wear a mask and you still do in other words. Get vaccinated this afternoon. President biden explains a little bit more about the new guidance and talked some about how far we've come when i took office in january. We're losing literally tens of thousands of our seniors each week. Who were loved so dearly. Moms and dads pillars every community gone by the thousands every day at that time less than one percent of seniors were fully vaccinated when i took office today in less than one hundred days. More than sixty seven percent. Two thirds of our seniors are now fully vaccinated. That effort resulted in a drop of eighty percent in deaths among american seniors. I want to thank the team at the cdc for everything they're doing to help us lead with science and bring our communities out of this crisis safely and responsibly. i also wanna thank. Everyone has gotten the vaccine for doing your patriotic duty. Go get the shot. it's never been easier and once you're fully vaccinated. You can go without a mask when you're outside and away from big crowds urge all americans don't let up. Now keep following the guidance. Go get your vaccination. Now it's free and it's convenient ninety percent of the american people live within five miles site where you can get a vaccination. You can do this and we will do this. President biden speaking today about the new mask guidance. The cdc loosening up the mask guidance for outdoors particularly among people who are vaccinated. Tell you he also had this sort of drop the mic moment today. When nbc's peter alexander asked president biden why. He was wearing a mask when he walked out at the white house to make his remarks. Today watch this massacre. You chose to wear a mask and you chose to wear a mask as you walked out. Here what message. We're used sending by wearing a mask outside alone and watching me take it off and put it back on inside. Three's it right there. The president flashing is high beams on that one sunglasses on big grin classic. You gotta be kidding me man right you can watch me take the mask off as i come outside and then not put it back on until i get inside. That's what we're doing here guys. Come on there will be no aviators at the state of the union address tomorrow But i think you can expect some of that same tone at least on kovic and i will tell you. We're we're not supposed to call tomorrow. Night's address to the joint session of congress a state of the union address. We typically. don't call it that the first time a new president gives one but can i just say just for second. How annoying that is this year. Essentially the reason we don't call it. A state of the union is that after. New president sir nauseated. For the first time we think of them as having not been around long enough having not done enough yet as president to be able to report on the so-called state of the union and so that makes sense right most of the time sort of president's get sworn in at the end of january and then they typically give this speech right away. So ronald reagan. Sworn in january twentieth. The speech for him happens less than a month later. February eighteenth after him. It was pappy bush when even faster. He was sworn in january twentieth speaking to congress less than three weeks later february ninth bill clinton giving his address february seventeenth george w bush february twenty seventh obama february twenty fourth donald trump february twenty eighth. They all maxed out at like five weeks into their first term before they gave this first speech to congress and we all bent over backwards to not call it a state of the union because it was so soon after they were each sworn and find. I i get it. I get it i get it but number one even with all of those guys. It's still is a state of the union address. I mean it's still functions like a state of the union address and number two this year. It's not happening in february. February is long gun as is march as is almost all of april this year whether it's because of the pandemic or because of the january trump mob attack on the capital complex. All any any number of reasons this year president biden has chosen to wait much longer than any other. Modern president has waited before he gives this speech. He's waiting until the literal e. You've his one hundredth day in office before he gives this first big speech to congress tomorrow day ninety nine. And that's when he's giving this address and that means that it's not like he's still finding his way around the oval office trying to figure out which drawer triggers the lock right. I mean the first speech by a new president always feels like a state of the union. Anyway even one. It's only three or four weeks into his new term. But in this case with biden we're fourteen weeks into him being president. We're ninety nine days into him being president and the do some stuff to report so i know we're not supposed to call it the state of the union. I'm going to keep accidentally not accidentally calling tomorrow's biden speech a state of the union address. Even if we're not supposed to because functionally that's what it is. He will be reporting on stuff that he has done. He is not just going to be reporting on stuff he intends to do and because he already been there for almost one hundred days most what he's got to talk about obviously going to be about covert and the fight against this pandemic. We saw a preview of that from the president today even before he put on his sunglasses and started to walk away from the podium. Before dropping the mic on peter. Alexander like that right in these remarks talking about the new guidance from the thanking the for their leadership telling americans that we need to finish the job and get vaccinated but also claiming credit for how far. They've come for what his administration has been able to do. He'll be able to do some of that tomorrow. Talk about what he's done because he's been there long enough to have done a lot already. And the president's approval ratings overall are high but for the what it comes to the handling of the coronavirus. His approval ratings are sky high. And so we're going to hear a lot about that tomorrow night from a president who can get in there and ninety nine days in and describe the state of the union and what he's done and in terms of his agenda in terms of what he wants to yet do the popularity of the covid relief. Bill is strong and staying that way. That's already been signed into law and it's already going into effect. Monmouth just released new polling showing sixty four percent support. Among the american people for the american families plan that he's going to formally announce in his speech tomorrow. Sixty four percent support for that already. He hasn't even formally announced it yet. Monmouth also found sixty eight percent support for the infrastructure. Bill that he's already proposed. That is currently making its way through congress. Sixty eight percent popularity on the infrastructure. Bill turns out. That's a good way to be popular right. Propose and pass things that the american people like by huge margins than they'll like you too crazy. I know i mean i think congress has started to cotton to the fact that when they pass things that are wildly popular among the american people. It raises congress's approval ratings as well so far republicans have been immune to the charms and do not wanna support what the democrats and the biden administration are doing but as democrats in congress the democratic party the biden administration and indeed to a certain extent congress as an institution gets more popular with the american people because of biden's stuff that they're finally getting past. That's making a difference in the country. We'll see how long that resistance lasts in the approval ratings for president biden personally for his handling of specific issues and for his legislative agendas. Thus far. I'm sure from the white house's perspective. Those good numbers make seem like a great time to put the president before the american public in a big primetime address. They probably feel like it was definitely worth waiting ninety nine days and not doing this way back in february before he had anything to talk about. They're able to put about now. Nine thousand nine days in to what he is done already. In addition to what he plans to do next and the risk of having scheduled with this way of course is that by this time in presidency one hundred days into a presidency you would also think the opposition would have started to define the new president. Negatively would have found their footing in terms of criticizing demonizing his actions. His proposals the impact of what he's doing that's not happening. Among republicans republicans have not found there yet to say the least in terms of criticizing let alone meaningfully opposing what what biden is doing. I mean this too is a remarkable thing about the state of the union right now about the prospects for president biden's agenda. Look at the string of weird made up cockamamie stuff that the republicans have been talking about since biden has been precedent. Just think about what what you have heard from them what you have heard from conservative media and from republican elected officials about their greatest concerns and the things most animating them since the biden administration has been place. There was the freak out about mr potato head. There was a freak out about the muppets. Although i'm not even sure what they were mad about. But they were very mad about the muppets. Very close on the heels of him. Being very mad about mr potato head then they were mad about dr seuss. Then they were mad. This past week about joe biden's big meat band. Even though joe biden not banning meat that was totally made up one fox news anchor to his credit. Yesterday did run an on air correction apologizing for the fox news channel repeatedly hyping this story. That biden was going to ban meat when that was not actually a proposal from the biden administration to the president at all. there was one fox anchor. Who made a statement on camera apologising for the network hyping that false story but for the last few days republicans have been all over that. They've also been hyping a totally different also totally false story that all kids detained by immigration authorities at the us border. Were being given a child's picture book written by vice president kamala harris. The implication was that the biden administration was bulk buying vice president harris's book to give to immigrant kids at the border that is totally made up. That is not happening. It is literally just a made up story. Created out of whole cloth didn't happen isn't happening never proposed bite. That's the latest one is become the yet another new animating. Totally fake grievance in conservative media and among republican elected politicians. Because this is how they spend their time. Now tonight i should tell you. A new york post reporter of the new york post is owned by the same company that owns fox news tonight on your post reporter whose byline was on the posts version of the fake kamala harris children's book story. That reported resigned from the new york. Post tonight saying this publicly on twitter. She says quote an announcement. Today i handed in my resignation to the editors at the new york post the communist harris story and incorrect story. I was ordered to write an which. I failed to push back hard enough against. That was my breaking point. That reporter from the new york post laura telliano saying tonight. She quit her job over being forced to concoct and advance that full full story. Fake story about something. The biden administration absolutely did not do. But it's just one in a bunch of those now and it nevertheless remains a top story and conservative media right now and among elected republican members of congress who you would think had other things to talk about. It is weird. And i will tell you. I think it's not just a sidebar. I think it's an important thing about where our democracy is at and we're the prospects for biden's agenda is heading into tomorrow state of the union. It's it's weird but it is significant that republicans over and over and over again over these last ninety eight days have just incessantly gone for these made up sidebar. Crises and controversies one. After the other. That aren't real things certainly aren't things. The biden administration is doing. I mean there's other stuff to talk about if you're in opposition right if you're a governing party in opposition biden and the democrats just past two trillion dollar covert relief bill. They're going to pass another bill. That's is on infrastructure and with more coming after that but instead of talking about that stuff the republicans. The opposition party is like pets. Baking muppet margarethen bacon. Seuss if you are the biden white house. That's probably a good sign that the opposition party really does not know what to say about you and does not know what to say about the substance of what you're doing in life in general if people have to make up things about you to criticize that probably means the real life way you're living isn't too bad but in the house chamber tomorrow night it's gonna look way different than it. Usually does unlike previous state of the union addresses. They are not for example. Picking a designated survivor. This always struck me as both melodramatic and also scary in case of a catastrophic attack on the capital during a state of the union address. They usually designate one cabinet member. Who's in the line of succession to the presidency to stay far away from the capitol just in case everybody else at the capitol for the state of the union address gets wiped out all at once and some sort of terrible attack tomorrow. They're not bothering to do that. Because only two members of the cabinet are going to be at the state of the union. It's just going to be the secretary of defense and the secretary of state. All the other members of the cabinet are going to be watching from home. We also don't have to worry tomorrow night. About conservative supreme court justice sam alito trying to heckle president biden the way he did president obama because only one supreme court justice is going to be there for the addresses. Well the chief justice. John roberts will be the only one there from the supreme court also. Instead of a phalanx of military flag officers the military tomorrow night will be represented by just one general general mark. Milley the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. There will also be no guests from home. Brought in to be recognized during the speech as 'great americans or people who story spotlights and important issue raised during the president's speech. There won't be any of that tomorrow. The only guests in the entire chamber will be the president's wife and the vice president's husband they are the only invited guests from outside the government. Not even all members of congress can come. They'll be thirty senators from each party and forty house members from each party. And that's it. And the the main reason for all the restrictions of course is because of cova they're going to be maintaining distance between all the attendees but the other thing that is looming over these preparations for what is going to be this. Most unusual state of the union tomorrow is that there was quite recently a violent attack on the. Us capitol on january sixth just today. The trump supporting arkansas man who allegedly entered the capital with a nine hundred thousand volts. Stunning device mounted on a hiking stick. Who went into nancy. Pelosi's office with that weapon and wrote her threatening notes and was photographed with his speed up on a desk just today. That man was freed from jail while he awaits trial. He has been in federal custody nearly four months but today of all days the day before the state of the union. They decided to set them. Loose kyle cheney and josh gerstein reporting politico dot com tonight that as federal judges are considering these difficult cases of january six defendants and whether these defendants are dangerous enough that the court should keep them in jail until they go on trial. One of the newly complicating things. These defendants are having to contend with and that judges are really wrestling with in case after case in terms of how to factor in fact during their assessments of the dangerousness of these people. One of the things that everybody's newly having to contend with is that in the last week or so former president donald trump has renewed his public calls to his followers about how the election was stolen from him and how he needs their help to get it back. Because joe biden isn't really the president and he's secretly one and of course that rhetoric and those calls to action from former president trump after the election those and on january sixth itself. Those those statements by the former president have been cited by a whole bunch of january six defendants as explaining. Why did what they did during the capital attack. Right and the reason they're lawyers have described those statements by president trump and most of these cases is to basically make a case to the judges in these cases that hey you know. My client isn't a bad guy. A bad girl. This was a one time deal. It was heat of the moment craziness driven by the singular unrepeatable moment in time when former president trump my clients idle and the commander in chief was claiming publicly that the the election was stolen and he needed his supporters to go steal it back for him. That will never happen again. That's over now and so these defendants of course would never do anything crazy like this ever again. That is why president. Trump's inciting statements on january six then before have been cited again and again by defense counsel in these cases involving january six defendants. Don't worry my client won't do it again. That was so weird. What was going on. There will never face that circumstance again. My client can be trusted to go home. We've seen that. In case after case after case of the january six defendants problem is that defense strategy only goes as far as donald trump. No longer making statements like that about the election within the past week or so. He has started doing that again. Injustice bombastic terms used after the election and on january six. Here's joshua's report tonight reporting tonight. At politico dot com quote the fanatical donald trump supporters who stormed the capital in. January are facing an unexpected. Their freedom trump himself trump's refusal to accept the reality that he lost the twenty twenty election reflected in a torrent of recent statements renewing discredited claims about a rigged vote has become a feature of prosecutors latest attempts to jail capital riot defendants that they deem too dangerous to release pending trial. Judges have started citing this argument in cases where they've decided to detain defendants for presenting a of future violence. They've agreed that trump's rhetoric could spur his most radicalized supporters to attack again and that could be bad news for dozens of additional riot suspects being hold in on alleged conspiracy and police assault charges. Jennifer sullivan wrote in a recent opinion ordering the detention of one january six defendant quote former president. Donald trump continues to make forceful public comments about the quote stolen election. Chastising individuals who did not reject the supposedly illegitimate result that put the current administration in place. The judge continues quote such comments reflect the continued threat posed by individuals like this defendant who has demonstrated. He is willing and able to engage in extreme and terrifying levels of violence against law enforcement with a chilling disregard for the rule of law seemingly based on mistaken beliefs about the illegitimacy of the current administration. Prosecutors have also begun citing an echoing judge sullivan's rationale and five written statements from friday to tuesday meaning from this past friday till today. Former president trump has sought to reignite. His frenzied claims that the twenty twenty election was stolen from him. A sailing state officials who refused to entertain those claims and praising others seeking relitigate the results trump said quote. Why are the democrats so desperate to stop this election fraud from being revealed. That answer is obvious. That was in a statement trump made on friday demanding that arizona's governor provides security for republican audit of the twenty twenty election results. In that state january. Six defendants have argued that the circumstances of january six. They're unlikely to happen again. But judge sullivan and now other judges and prosecutors citing some of trump's recent rhetoric have pushed back on that reasoning. It's not over if they say it's not over right not in terms of what they're likely to do to try to affect the craziness that they've been fantasizing about it is january sixth attack and also covert precautions. That are gonna make tomorrow's state of the union. Unlike any we've ever seen in modern history. We've got news ahead tonight on on last minute. Announcements the president is making head of that speech tomorrow including one executive order. He signed today. That will give a big multi-thousand dollar annual pay raise to hundreds of thousands of americans very undercover story. Today expect to hear more about it tomorrow night and here this hour as well but we're gonna be talking tonight about why on the eve of the state of the union. Trump world really is ramping back up with all their rhetoric about how the election was stolen. And how biden isn't really president and trump is going to be reinstated and trump supporters. Must stop the steel. It is rhetoric that is keeping some january six defendants in prison who might otherwise be released but it is focused on a real world thing. It is focused on a real effort that arizona. Republicans are trying to pull off to try to undo the presidential election there and arizona secretary of state is going to be joining us on that. Live here in just a minute. It's all coming up like i said busy. Newsweek busy news night. stay with us. Lots to get to the coming weeks. I will issue an executive order requiring federal contractors to pay their federally funded employees a fair wage of at least ten dollars and ten cents an hour because if you cook our tubes meals or wash dishes you should not have to live in poverty obama in his twenty fourteen state of the union address announcing a minimum wage increase for everybody who worked for a federal contractor so people like food and janitorial workers on american military bases anybody working on a federal government contracts is a big deal at the time you can tell from that clip actually can probably tell from the huge applause that announcement from president obama got at least from the democratic side. President obama at the time had been trying to get congress to approve an increase in the minimum wage for all americans but even though that idea is wildly popular among the american people. Republicans in congress wouldn't budge. They wouldn't do it so. President obama did the next best thing. He did what he could do on his own. Without congress he signed this executive order raising the minimum wage at least for hundreds of thousands of americans who work for federal contractors and republicans went. They lost their minds just before. President obama state of the union speech that night one texas. Republican congressman tweeted from the house. Floor that he was awaiting the arrival of the socialistic dictator. The commandant in chef the commandant in chef. It's much worse than the commandant in chief because the chef one like makes you eat stuff. It's terrible socialistic dictator that was about the minimum wage increase for federal contractors. House speaker. john boehner said that obama's minimum wage hike for contractors was against the constitution and republicans would see the president in court spoiler alert there turns out it was not against the constitution. Went into effect just fine but still the panic was crazy. Senator ted cruz said this. Minimum wage increase for federal contractors. Was the sign of the obama imperial presidency. He was proclaiming himself. An emperor. You guys his persistent pattern of lawlessness. It was like murder this two dollars and eighty five cents per hour raise in the minimum wage for federal contractors. Obviously it was intended to be the end of the end of the republic but despite the cuckoo for cocoa puffs reaction on the right president did sign that executive order and it went into effect and since then federal contractors have been getting minimum wage of just over ten dollars an hour and the country. You might have noticed is not a smoking hulk of communist wreckage people who were not making very much money before just got some more money and that's pretty much the thing that changed period because of that experience in two thousand fourteen it is going to be harder for republicans to get people to freak out about it this time around although they will undoubtedly try but now president joe biden is going to raise the minimum wage for those same folks again on the eve of his first. Big speech to congress is state of the union tomorrow. President biden today signed an executive order raising the minimum wage for federal contractors to fifteen dollars an hour. He already raised the minimum hourly wage for federal employees to fifteen dollars an hour. Now it'll be fifteen an hour for federal contractors as well. This will affect hundreds of thousands of federal contract workers. More than three hundred thousand americans are gonna get basically a pretty big and permanent pay raise an average of more than three thousand dollars a year of raise for more than three hundred thousand americans who are working at the bottom end of the wage scale even though their work is for contractors who are getting their money from the federal government and of course you know three hundred thousand to four hundred thousand american workers. It's a lot of americans but it's still a tiny fraction of the workforce overall just like president obama president biden would prefer to raise the minimum wage for all americans because of republicans blocking that in the senate and some conservative democratic senators being unwilling to try other means to get it passed. republicans have been able to basically successfully block so instead. He's doing what he can a sort of a big something but that it's but it is what he can do on his own joining us. Jared bernstein. He was chief. Economic adviser to joe biden when he was vice president. He's a member of president. Biden's white house council of economic advisers mr bernstein. It is great to see. Thank you so much for your time tonight to be here. Thank you how much how much of a difference will this make on average for the federal contractors who are going to get a raise from this. And how many americans is this going to affect. The economic policy institute did a A great analysis of that this very day. This is an executive order. So this is going into effect at the end of january next year at according to e. p. i it's going to reach three hundred ninety thousand workers and it's going to raise their annual pay by over three thousand dollars a year. So that's real money. It's real economic justice and it's a one hundred day biden promise and it is a promise kept that executive order signed today and we will see those workers benefiting from it as soon as it gets into the field and jared in terms of the previous experience with this. I played that clip from president. Obama both to walk down memory lane about the republican freak out about it but also to remember that there was another boost in this wage ordered by the president in two thousand fourteen economically. We're there negative knock on effects from doing that. Seven years ago with the boost that president obama. Or it's it's a very important question. Rachel and it reminds kinds of analysis that we're able to do with minimum wages. We also find that to be a very effective program because we had this in place as you mentioned in two thousand fourteen fifteen we were able to go back at the council of economic advisers and look at its impact on federal contracting costs and we found that it had no impact In terms of the change in contracting cost there was no significant increase. It costs are for that matter. It just pretty much flatlined. And i think it's important to ask yourself. Why and the answer is that. The efficiencies that are engendered. When you raise the pay of low wage workers helped to offset those labor costs now. Those efficiencies include fewer absentees. Less turnover fewer vacancies who say morale boosted effort and those kinds of efficiencies absorb the increase in labor costs and therefore we observed that the contracting costs Didn't go up as a result of this Of this executive order and jared in terms of the president's message tomorrow night we have seen some of the details about this american families plan that he's going to talk about tomorrow night. We had the american rescue plan. The covid relief pan plan. We've seen him lay out the american jobs plan. Which is the big infrastructure bill. This is basically the third major legislative initiative that he's laid out with that same sort of framing this when the american families planning that scott a lot of elements in it as far as we can tell that are about making life more affordable for working people. How does this fit that. How does this idea of a wage floor for these. Hundreds of thousands of americans fit into that overall message it is. It is totally consistent with the economic policies that this president has brought to the white house and in fact the very ones. He campaigned on President biden who. I've known for quite a while has always had in the back of his mind and economic model wherein if the economy is growing if gdp is up unemployment is down and the middle class and lower income. People aren't getting their fair. Share of that growth then. Something is fundamentally wrong. Now the first thing we have to do of course is the american. You get to the other side of the crisis and i think the evidence that that is working is is quite strong but when when the president talks about building back better he means rebuilding the policy architecture that connects the economic wellbeing of who've been left behind for decades to overall economic growth in the case of the jobs plan that means deepen historical investments in in clean energy in dance manufacturing in modernizing schools and childcare centers in in clean water and of course clean air in the case of the american families plan. Which by the way. I'm not going to front run. The president But i will tell you that the framing there is very much addressing the family part of that policy agenda through equally deep and historic investments in education and childcare can paid leave paid for offset by Implementing a fair set of tax changes. That that hit nobody under four hundred thousand of family income so very progressive tax changes to pay for economic security for the middle class. Jared bernstein from the president's white house council of economic advisors. I know that you and your colleagues at this time of year heading into a state of the union address are running on sort of forty hour. A day schedules. I appreciate you taking time to be here tonight. Your thank you my pleasure. Thank you all right. We've got much more ahead here tonight. Including arizona's secretary of state joining us. On what is becoming a really quite weird effort among arizona. Republicans to try to overturn the presidential election in that state. Yes the presidential election. From six months ago they're still working on it. Stay with us breaking news tonight in these so-called that arizona republicans are holding the twenty twenty presidential election in that state. This is this mysterious. And somewhat ridiculous recount arizona's presidential ballots. That's being conducted by a pro-trump cunanan conspiracy theorist and his private security firm that he calls cyber ninjas arizona republicans hire this guy and gave him two thirds of the actual ballots cast by real arizona residents in the presidential race in november. He says he's going to do some sort of analysis of those ballots and then report with the real election results were in arizona again. This effort is being led by a guy who has supported all of the craziest. Stop the steel conspiracy theories about how trump didn't really lose the election. Well here's the until tonight. The only press allowed inside to report on this. So-called is the do pro-trump news network. That's called one. America news which has itself relentlessly hyped the trump conspiracy theories around the election. And who's on error. Personalities have raised money to conduct this so-called recount in arizona one of the only real journalists who actually made it into the room to watch some of this audit was only able to get in because she signed up as a volunteer observer and that allowed her to be leading in on one day but that was only on the first day of the recount and she wasn't allowed in after that and no real journalists have been leading since then. It's just the one. America news people. They've got exclusive access. Well that's all changed. Finally tonight that one real reporter who was allowed inside for one day. The intrepid gen fifield of the arizona republic tonight said that she has been let back in she says in fact a coalition of arizona's news organizations that fought for better access. They are now being allowed into the room to watch the count. Although no one's being made available to answer reporters questions about what they're seeing. Remember gen fifield is. The reporter noticed on day one. That ballot count as were all armed with blue pens. She notified these cyber ninja guy in charge. That blue pens actually shouldn't be allowed in any real ballots because ballot scanners read blue ink. Any marks that any counter made on anybody's ballot could spoil the ballot or change. Its vote when she reported that because she observed it to the guy running the audit the he went on conspiracy theories sabre ninjas guy he repr- he told her that that was news to him. He didn't know there was any problem with blue ink. Here's john five fields. Update on that tonight on pens. She says on pens there are red and green pens on the counting tables. It appears that the counters are marking their. Tally sheets with green pens. So now we know we know what what color the color pen. The ballot-counters are using thanks to journalists for fighting and demanding to be allowed to cover this ridiculous thing. We also now know that some of the ballot inspectors are conducting their inspections of the ballots looking for counterfeits by hitting the hitting the ballots with ultraviolet late with ultraviolet flashlights. Okay also there's a room that journalists still don't have access to where auditors say they are examining the county's voting machines. That is a room. That's not even part of the The camera feeds that one. America news has been showing to the public. Meanwhile the zona democratic party is suing the republican control. There is on the senate to try to stop this thing from continuing today in court. The judge hearing that case that he is mulling order to potentially stop this thing in its tracks. There's going to be another hearing. In that case tomorrow. We may get his ruling then but if and until that happens. This whole process is continuing to go forward. And this is why former president trump and his most fervent supporters. Believe right now that this is the path by which donald trump will be reinstated as president and joe biden will be exposed as a fraud. Arizona's top elections officials secretary of state. Katie hobbs told cnn quote. We have so many concerns about this exercise. I kind of don't even want to call it an audit. I think that's an insult to professional auditors everywhere because in this case they're making this stuff up as they go along she said quote. I think there was a high level of expectation that whoever had their hands on the ballots and the equipment would adhere to some level of security measures and transparency that clearly has not happened arizona secretary katie holmes joins us next quote. My concern grows deeper by the hour. It is clear that no one involved in this process knows what they are doing. They are making it up as they go along. That is arizona secretary state. Katie hobbs talking to the new york times about the means by which president trump has apparently convinced himself that he's going to be reinstated as president this so-called audit that arizona republicans are holding of the twenty twenty presidential election results in that state arizona secretary. Katie hobbs joins us live now a secretary of state house. Thank you so much for joining us. Hey we could chill. It's free to be here. We've been covering the story. I've been sort of increasingly gog. What's going on here but part of me still thinks this is so ridiculous. We shouldn't even talk about. It is what they're doing a dangerous dumb thing just a dumb thing. Well it is dangerous. And i'm glad you brought that up. I need this is. This is potentially precedent setting for other states in the country. I guarantee that folks are watching this nationally and if they are able to successfully continue to undermine voters confidence in our election integrity they're gonna bring nest other states in the country. Are you specifically worried about the ballots. Amazing to me that they have the actual ballots more than two million of them. Are you worried about what could happen with the ballots. That are in the custody of these. These guys absolutely win the The subpoena was upheld. My office reached out to senator us. Senate president karen fan and outlined list of security measures that were the bare minimum of what we hoped would be in place to protect the security of these ballots in the equipment on the chain of custody the access logging everything that should be in place. We also specifically mentioned the color of pens as you talked about earlier and we have gotten no assurances that these would be followed. Obviously as we're watching this play out in front of us. A lot of these things are not being followed on. And i think that a lot of the security concerns that arizona's rightfully have are not being taken seriously by the folks conducting this exercise. What do you think is going to be the outcome of this process. I mean you look at the people who they have chosen to do it. And we've covered that extensively it's also been reported in the state that the state senate had the opportunity to hire sort of real people to high to hire people who are experienced credited. Who have done this sort of thing. And who aren't forgive me wing nuts are known conspiracy theorists and trump partisans on this sort of thing but instead they chose the sort of crazy folks to do it. What do you think will be the bottom line. Well how do you think they'll end it well. I think i've said this from the beginning. It's clear now that there's really nothing valid. That's gonna come out of this exercise They're they're on a fishing expedition to find something we don't know what's but that proves there was something wrong with the election. We know they're not gonna find that but there are also not being transparent about the measures. They're taking for whatever it is. They're doing so you know that's gonna help them make stuff up. Apparently but all this is gonna do is continue to undermine voters confidence in the process and there is nothing about this that is gonna is gonna ease odors concerns that have been really created by these same politicians who have continued to promote the big lie. Sense the election in november arizona. Secretary state katie. Hobbs thank you for your time tonight. We've been covering this for the last few nights. I keep thinking we're done with it and then the next day something gets even weirder about it. I hope you'll keep us apprised as we continue to keep an eye on this zona. Absolutely thank you all right. We'll be right back. Stay with us going to do it for me for but heads up for tomorrow for the big biden speech we are not supposed to call the state of the union. Our special coverage of that speech starts tomorrow night at eight pm eastern. I will be here tomorrow night. And our earlier than i usually am to be part of that special coverage against starting at eight pm eastern. I will see you then. The show weeknights at nine eastern on msnbc.