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Monitor Show 15:00 01-11-2021 15:00

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01:42 min | 3 months ago

Monitor Show 15:00 01-11-2021 15:00

"Joe capital of the world twenty four hours a day bloomberg dot com on the bloomberg business app and bloomberg quick take. This is bloomberg radio from bloomberg world headquarters. I'm charlie pellett. We moved into the final hour of trading on this monday january. Eleventh stocks are slipping wall street takes a breather stocks down for the first time in five sessions as investors began the week in a cautious mood has some pe- being led lower by real estate hand. Communication services l. elliott lifting healthcare shares. Lily is up by eleven percent right now he s and p's down seventeen of five tenths of one percents. The dow down forty two a drop of one tenth of one percent nasdaq is down one hundred and twenty five points lower by one percent tenured on five thirty seconds ten year yield one point one. Three percent gold is down one tenth of one percent. Eighteen forty-seven the ounce and west texas intermediate crude down three tenths percent fifty two zero nine a barrel four west texas intermediate crude now. What about the federal reserve jennifer lea senior economist at bmo nesbitt burns. She zachary this morning on bloomberg television and radio them to tighten anytime too quickly or or you know they're not gonna pull the punch away too quickly. I think this is going to keep because of all this is going to keep interest rates a little longer. We're not going to see any major changes in interest rates at least for the next couple of years. Carnival posted an adjusted fourth quarter net loss of one point nine billion dollars but the world's largest cruise operator also said demand is surging for twenty twenty to the deficit exceeded the one point five seven billion dollar loss projected by analysts and comes as most.

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Imagining the future of downtown Seattle, this week

Week In Review

50:37 min | 6 months ago

Imagining the future of downtown Seattle, this week

"What happened this week and what did it all mean? That's what we get to on the week in review. Welcome to it. I'm Bill Radke and my super funds this week from q thirteen reporter Jennifer Lea. Back Jennifer. Expel Nice to see you in your Pumpkin pumpkin sweater. Yet, the Pumpkin Orange is alive. Canoe Birger from cross cut editor at large, they're going to see you again. Bill Flannel as it should be. An ally sanders formerly of the stranger creator of the wild. West. Newsletter Welcome back, Pulitzer Prize winning. Sanders. To be here, Bill thanks for having me. Good to have you here. That's what they sound like and you can see what we look like at facebook dot com slash kyw Publicradio I just realized I was kind of dancing right before the show started and that was probably caught visually which I'm not proud of but youtube dot com slash user slash kyw nine, four, nine you can see us there so so take your pick. Okay. Let's get into it. We did it we made it through the final presidential debate last night the candidates were asked what they would say on inauguration day to voters who didn't. Support them president trump took that in a different direction. If he gets in, you will have a depression, the likes of which you've never seen you 401K's will go to hell and it'll be a very, very sad day for this country. What is on the ballot? Here is the character of this country decency honor respect treated people with dignity making sure that everyone has an even chance and I'm GonNa make sure you get that you haven't been getting the last four years there. You have it. If the polls are accurate, Biden will win inauguration day will be very, very sad day of decency honor and respect. By the way that clip reminds me when I can't see him of how exactly Jim Carey sounds like Joe Biden when he's on Saturday night live what else before we talk Washington state elections any any presidential reactions from any of you? Well I just felt very relieved to have the final presidential debate over I. Think a lot of people are just glad to have that one behind us and listening to that clip of how president trump would spend his second inaugural address biting his old enemies. That sounds actually like a moment of honesty I'm surprised so that he didn't say he would use the address to talk about Clinton's emails. Right. We didn't hear that. have. Have all I was saying that probably I figured. When I? This is the mayor this week and the county executive maybe you would expect them to voted, but I feel like because turnout is so high that everybody has has voted already here on October twenty third. What about you? All? I have not voted yet, and this is actually going to be my first time mail in voting, which actually pretty excited about already know which ballot I'm GonNa go to I look in West Seattle, and the closest one is the junction I know there was some controversy over that box the weekend prior, but you know all his good I've been by their reinterviewed people. So what was the controversy? With. Someone had smeared mirrored something on cardboard and tried to shove it down. The slot. If you heard I did not do I want to. Is, as much as. Okay Pu. Great. By the way speaking of dropbox is Jennifer. First of all I'll come over to your house and take that ballot from if you if you need me to take it to dropbox which I discovered from you, this week was likely designed in Pierce County in Puyallup. Yes. It was the company itself is called Laser Fab and they call their ballot ballot-box line vote armor and they have three different sizes and if you live in King County, you're seeing the largest vote armor ballot box and just to give you some. On the boxes on the way over a thousand pounds once they're actually brought to the site there cemented into the ground with eight inch bolts. And this is information that I learned initially from the director elections here, Julie Wise and they're very proud of this product because so far it's been able to withstand a lot of different elements rain of some of them even have like a fire suppressant system inside. So they're they're using this to make sure people's votes are secure and safe, which has been a hot topic this election cycle. Stand the PU smears. Apparently the ballots were all good. To workers are heroes for going out there as quickly as they did in for cleaning it up. Rogue. I dropped my ballot at Rainier Community Center, dropbox all a sparkling clean and very easy to use, and you don't even you just slide it in. It's like a kind of mail slot. You don't have to touch anything if you're concerned about covid or fall flu transmission and again, just this great big feeling of relief. Okay. That's done finally after four years got to cast the vote that I'd been waiting for. We were cast our ballots. We voted the same day the. They arrived the mail. I've been in communication with my mail carrier who assured me that? Things. Here were working smoothly and woodwork smoothly. So we actually put ours in the mail and followed up and found our ballots were in and counted so. Relented like alike. Yeah. It's. It's you know you wonder where these debates I mean who's undecided at this point I mean. Not many people apparently because so many early early voting is going on all over the country. But you know I'll be honest. I. I made up my mind about trump before he was elected the first time. So. I'm not exactly open minded on that topic. Do you think all the early voting is going to affect elections in Washington state one way or the other? Anybody. Well. I. Think it could I mean part of it is not just the early voting. It's it's the percentage return early voting. Suggests a massive turnout. You know a very, very large turnout and you're finding that in rural counties as well as urban counties. You know because of the weight of population where people live and the way they tend to vote that would bode well, I think for Democrats who usually do better in large turnout elections but it also shows I think people in areas outside the city are very. Very motivated as well. I think one of the big questions is people will vote all the way down the ballot. This is a long especially in King County along accordion folded ballot. You have to vote two sides of it. By the time you're done, you're all the way down to Superior Court judges, which are really important for those of us who are concerned about criminal justice reform and so on. But. If. A lot of the people who are leading to these high turnout figures for early voting are just here for the vote against trump which i. think is you know likely vote in King County than. If. They don't vote all the way down the ballot I don't know what the effect will be One of the races that I am really interested to see the outcome for and I don't quite know how early voting in high turnout might or might not affect. It is the lieutenant governor race which because of Jay inslee lease potential maybe. Pick to be a biden cabinet members should by win could be a really consequential race but again, it's down ballot race on I don't know how many of the early voters are paying close attention to that. Kanoute burgers playing paying close attention I was that the owners race. Debate set of presidential. Watch that debate instead of the presidential debate and You know what's interesting to about about that is you have these two very qualified politically fairly closely aligns Democrats. So that's weird i. mean the fact that the choice is between two Democrats and but they're basically running for a job that should be abolished the current. Lieutenant. Governor left the state he lives in California and is studying to become a jesuit and no one really noticed and no one noticed exactly and. You know. So you wonder why these two people I mean you know Marc, Elias Ten and Want this job. Now. Heck, said something interesting in the debate he said well. He thought about a comment economizing government at he noted that the Lieutenant Governor's. Budget has leapt up in the last phantom almost doubled. Why is that when it's an office that has a few important responsibilities, but there part time? And is largely just kind of a sinecure for whoever happens to be in that office. One of the questions though. The answer may be canoes question. Why would anyone want this job? The answer this year is that you might well become governor shortly after election day, and so I've read that a denny hacked the former member of Congress former elected official longtime elected official in Washington state who retired from Congress because he just didn't like the rancor I think He said that if he is elevated to the governorship, because inslee takes a cabinet post in future Biden administration, he will not run for a sort of full-time governor Gig. The way it would work here in Washington state is that if inslee moves onto the by administration, the Lieutenant Governor, becomes governor until the next November election at which point will all vote on a new governor so heck is saying I think categorically in very clearly i. Will. Not Run for governor. Now I don't know how much I believe that because when he resigned from Congress, he said I'm never running for office again and here he is running for Lieutenant. Governor Marco. Leah's if I read correctly has a statement about running for governor that leaves the impression that he wouldn't run. He would just take the appointment and then step aside but leaves a rhetorical loophole for walking through and actually running for governor. He said, he would run last night that. Loopholes for politicians are different than loopholes for the rest of us. Jennifer whether it's lieutenant governor or any other local races any any other reaction before we roll on? I think I'm just fascinated excited to see the voting process and experience it especially during a presidential election year in Washington state and I do think it's a system. That people should be very proud of, and it's also really inspiring to see people getting now in voting early whether it's because you were very concerned or because you felt like it was your duty around right. So talking of campaigns Eli our state attorney general's about to sue Google again over political ads briefly, what's that about? This is about Washington state having some of the strongest regulations in the nation when it comes to transparency in online political ads, everyone's familiar with the Russian effort in two thousand sixteen to disrupt the US election part of that effort. One art was buying political ads on facebook another platforms in rubles that suggested to a lot of people that the kind of wild west. So to speak of tech. Platforms needed to be better regulated, but in the trump administration throughout four years of the trump administration, nothing has been done to increase the required daylight for the financing and reach him look of online political ads. It just so happens that here in Washington state, we had law already on the books that can be used to force tech platform. so that's Google facebook twitter when it was selling political ads. To disclose the money behind the political ads who exactly is paying for them, what they look like and information about who they were targeted at because the major thing about online political ads as they can be narrowly targeted so that a few people who the campaigns want to reach, see them but the rest of us don't. And so google rather than comply with these ads said in twenty eighteen while we're just, GONNA ban all political ads on our platform that are aimed at Washington state's elections. The problem was it kept on selling and it kept on failing to make the required disclosures about them. That is why Attorney General Ferguson for the second time in two plus years is suing Google for violating the State Law and these are not just ads. You would see in a google search at the top. These are all kinds of ads that that you see. Right? That's right. Some of them are ads that you would see in a google search some of them are You know placement for the candidates website. If you're searching for a their name, they might pop up or their opponent's name their website might pop up in some of them are. Display ads that might appear all around the web through Google's platform, and the point is that public should be able to know who's paying for these ads, what they look like and who they reached. It's just like I have the right right now in any citizen, any any resident of Washington state has the right right now to walk into K., O. W. and say, Hey, can I see the political ad books or King Five? TV or the Seattle Times the stranger or q thirteen or Cuba cronkite yeah or cross cut if they weren't a nonprofit. Doesn't political ads I don't think. So. Anyway, people have long had this right. You have the right actually in federal elections under federal law when it comes to TV stations to look at books for National Ads but the law federally has not kept up when it comes to digital platforms in Washington, it has kept up when it comes to digital platforms, but the digital platforms are not complying. So right now in addition to the action that's coming against Google, the attorney general has already suing facebook and the case of Washington state versus facebook has been rolling along since the summer in King County Superior Court that's part of what I'm covering with my newsletter while West Hey. It's the state law have any monetary penalties. Go with this. Yes, and so that can well afford to pay over and over. Right. Well so I recently interviewed Congresswoman Pramilla, Jive Paul who is on the judiciary subcommittee in the House that recently released this antitrust report this big report on a Google Amazon Apple and facebook being monopolistic practices in one of the things bill the report says is that we have this problem of recidivism. Usually when you know the powers of you're talking about recidivism, they're talking about people who are bad actors in the Community that trump would probably talk about that. But this is our America's largest tech platforms being recidivists in the sense that they break the law over and over again because like bill said, they can afford to pay any fine. So what's happened here in Washington is Attorney General Ferguson already sued Google and facebook in two thousand eighteen for this very issue they paid a fine of two, hundred, thousand dollars each and they went. On, according to Ferguson and the Washington State, public disclosure commission breaking the law again, and so this time rather than accept a settlement, my guesses is that Ferguson is going to force both facebook and Google to go through the lawsuit process. Admit guilt if want to settle which they weren't required to do last time and pay, I would imagine a much larger than two hundred thousand dollars something that actually as you point out bill makes makes a dent for one of these massive, very wealthy companies. Any other reaction or questions before we move onto an oxymoron. Stating Eli and can't wait to hear the updates that come out of it. That oxymoron would be anarchy jurisdiction and that's coming up but on the program and what about what's the future of downtown? SEATTLE? Bellevue is a ghost town is it? Hey, more affordable again. We'll talk telecommuting and stuff when we return on week in review it Jennifer Lea Birger and Eli Sanders don't go away. Cross cuts birger q thirteen Jennifer Lea and ally Sanders. The Wild West newsletter are grouped on my computer screen. You can see us at facebook or you can watch us at. Youtube. YouTube dot com slash user slash kyw nine, four, nine as you wish, we are recapping the week for you and this week Seattle and Portland and New York sued the Justice Department to get them to quit designating these cities as jurisdictions of anarchy. Remember President Trump said, these cities had allowed allowed anarchy violence and destruction during the George Floyd protests and trump threatened to withhold federal grants from the city's Seattle's Mayor Jenny Durkan. Told me on the air that she was hoping trump wouldn't actually follow through on that threat. But unfortunately now we've gotten some clear indications that actual federal funding that the city has and needs or would have access to would be denied on the basis of this Finding by the president, you know it it really is in many ways an enemies list we think it's painting and constitutional for a whole range of reasons we this is not a performance lawsuit. For example, I'll tell you that we learned recently that as we apply for transit dollars for both sound transit funding, and hopefully for transportation dollars for the West Seattle Bridge that some of the departments who would be giving out the grants of those have interpreted this statement by the Department of Justice and the president is preventing us from even applying. That would be critical to the city. Of Seattle you know it would go so far is asking us to repay cares act money that has actually gone already to help people have food stability or rent stability or small businesses, get loans, and so there's a lot at stake for the people of Seattle. Mayor Jenny Durken they're not taking Joe Biden election victory for granted a kanoute you'd you don't assume trump is bluffing either Oh I don't think I don't think he's bluffing I mean as mayor jerk pointed out that this is actually working its way through the as a as a command from the top I. Think he's absolutely right that it's like an enemies list he's identified cities that have. openly disagreed with him about all kinds of issues It was the previous mayor who declared Seattle the a bastion of the resistance to trump so. There's been a difficult relationship, but it's managed to continue Seattle is extremely reliant on federal funds. I think in the press release that was put out related to the lawsuit by the city. The current. It's two hundred and six million dollars of federal funds. Much of that. For the social safety net a bunch of it is for covid related mitigation, and dealing with the pandemic. So it's a lot of money and that's on top of the kind of money you would need to replace You know the West Seattle Bridge or something like that. Seattle used to have friends in the Senate and the White House and was able for example, when the old West Seattle Bridge got run into by a ship and broken and had to be completely replaced with the one that's now broken. You. Know Warren G Magnuson are US senator was able basically to write a check he was on the Appropriations Committee. So That's not true. Any more generally, but it certainly would not be true under a four more years trump it would be much worse. I also think when you have a national conversations about a city like Seattle from an outsider's perspective. I don't know about you guys, but when chop was around. A lot of people from out of state asking people in Seattle. Are you? Okay because they just thought the entire city was taken over but you know chop was three to four blocks in size in one specific neighborhood. So I think when you have a conversation, a painting, a picture of Seattle in such a way, it does give very sauce image of the city is and who the people aren't you. Another sign of. Political action is had had. This is just really pure politics by president trump and the justice department which I believe approved this I don't know what you call it. A citation of Washington or Seattle is that in Arkansas jurisdiction? So Seattle I think Portland's on the list New York City is on the list, but there are other places that have had a really intense protests You know in support of racial justice this summer including Kenosha Wisconsin Minneapolis Minnesota what's different about those cities than Seattle and Portland of their in states that are major swing states in the upcoming presidential election, and maybe the a Republican, the Justice Department and President Trump. Don't want upset people in those states just now although the president trump and the justice department's claim designation if you will of the NRA jurisdiction has to do with Seattle's reaction to those protests and Jennifer mentioned the Chop Capitol, Hill organized protest or Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. There is a lawsuit going through the federal. Court system. Now brought by some Capitol Hill businesses who are suing the city of Seattle for essentially the same reasons. That the city. Gave Barricades to the protesters and medical tents and backed away and there were deaths. Their property damage in some businesses couldn't operate and a federal judge just said that there's enough to the lawsuit at least that it can continue to proceed. Isn't that a different case from what happened in Kenosha, etc.. Well I guess I would say that in anarchist jer extinction a jurisdiction you have no recourse to the law to begin with. So the fact that these business owners can file suit to try to get some monetary recompense for their loss business during these protests is proof that we are not living in an anarchist jerks fiction where you would have no a court of law to file your suiting. I really feel for the property owners, the people who lived in that area during that time because really they were just there and you know people assembled than it was violent and I mean during the pandemic think business owners continued to struggle and you know I've heard from other business owners who were better off staying they just need to get through this time period, but not everyone is going to be able to do that. You know what to say. I agree with Jennifer about the outside image of Seattle I was over in eastern Washington on. On a trip recently and used to be when you would talk to people. Over there they they would say, Oh, you're from Seattle on my daughter lives in the. Work. For, Microsoft and we had a great time saw the seahawks went up the space deal. Now, they kind of look at you with her you know when when you say from Seattle and they're like, you know it's a hell hole i. think the sort of Fox imagery in the kind of thing that trump is promulgated is giving a false image that said, I think that the complaints of the property owners business business owners on Capitol Hill in relation to how the city responded court is exactly where that ought to be. You know it's not some you know guy like the president writing off a city. Because he doesn't like it's politics. But. There are legitimate complaints on both sides about the way things were handled and going to court in having out having the that argument in a civil court I think is a is totally appropriate. Allies speaking of critics of Seattle, what did you think of the Seattle Lgbtq? Commission this week calling on Mayor Durkin to resign adding its voice to the Human Rights Commission and to some city council members. Well. They say three is a trend in journalism. So you've got the LGBT LGBTQ Commission. And the human. Rights Commission as you said, and then some council members and I think that begins to stack up to you know a difficult. I guess you might call it a difficult hurdle for Durkan in her re election effort and a really easy talking point for any challenger to Durkan. I am not sure how much clout these commissions, Carey I know that they have a very important jobs and it's great that we had these commissions but I don't know how well known or a kind of influential. Average voter in. Seattle I just don't know. Any other reaction to. City city city city being criticized from from all fronts before we move on. Well. Let's. Just. Stay in short that just continues to show. The. Divided City Hall that we have in Seattle currently and I think it's just going to continue to. Divide out as they move. Forward. They I just remind people that next year they'll be a mayoral election in twenty twenty one. So it's coming right up and I think this next year. If you if you don't like Jenny the Job Jenny Durkan's done and assuming if she runs for reelection, you'll have a chance to vote. We'll have a chance to have your say about who should be sitting in in the in City Hall So. You know your your opportunity opportunities coming up. So president trump thinks Seattle is a hell hole of anarchy. Other people are worried. Downtown is going to be empty Amazon just announced its corporate employees can work from home through June, that's about fifty five, thousand office workers in downtown Seattle and Bellevue. Where do you think that leaves downtown businesses that grew up around? Companies like Amazon and others. Big Big corporations these these little businesses that sell groceries and childcare and apartments and everything else. It is drastically different if you go down by South Lake Union I mean there are still people who live in those high rises that live in downtown, but it is nothing in comparison to what it was like when the full workforce was there I know that I'm for Amazon employees are a lot of families who feel thankful that you know they continue to be able to work from home I'm sorry you spoken to some of them. You've reported on. Yeah. Yeah I. Know that their families who are thankful that they get to be at home families that have children. With both parents who have jobs are in work from home and they feel full to be able to have this time together. But the downtown businesses I mean, a lot of them strategically placed themselves down there to get the Amazon. Business. And I don't think we're GONNA, see a lot of them survive this. It's interesting. The classified that's become apparent with the different levels of Amazon workers downtown employees. Who had very nice office towers to work in are now free to work from Home and essentially knowledge economy workers in have flexibility that could work from a a different state if they want to go to Wyoming and have a a nice view but some higher coverdells. And the workers in Amazon's warehouses south of Seattle they do need to keep on working and I think from reporting I've read some of them are actually quite happy to still be working given the current economy and the businesses around them as as Jennifer talked about in the context of South Lake Union the businesses around the Amazon a distribution centers or warehouses south of Seattle they're really happy to have people coming in for lunch still and so on. The workers however have some concerns about their conditions and one of the really interesting. Recent demands from Amazon warehouse workers is give us election day off so that we can vote or we're going to walk out and I think that's something to watch in the next. What is it twelve days or something until the election weather Amazon says, you know we're going to be a good corporate citizen in in the way that our employees are asking us to be and make election day a day off. So our employees can get out of the warehouse for a second vote does early voting in mail in voting not affect that position That is a very good question but I think that this is a nationwide campaign and so while good point it may be less of an effort in or less about. Important issue in Washington state, there are tons of other states where the government doesn't make it as easy to vote by now. What do you think? I make a couple points one I did a story before the pandemic about how downtown is always being claimed to be dying or Need saving and I went back through and you know since the really since the nineteen fifties there've been all these movements to remake downtown revitalize downtown save downtown that argument was used to tear down the pike place market we needed to get rid of blight to save downtown. It was West Lake Park was supposed to save downtown the Convention Center was host to save downtown. There have been all of these efforts constantly. You know to keep that business district, a certain way, and the the two most recent incarnations have been tourists and conventioneers, and that worked really well for what it was and Amazon Sin South Lake Union. and. When both of those were humming as they were on what mid midfield by mid February of this year. we looked unstoppable and then bang. I think they're in crisis a genuine crisis, probably the worst since the great. In terms of how downtown can be put back together in a way that's more sustainable. that could create opportunity for. Which people have been pushed out many people have been pushed out of a central Seattle. But. Then it's also cut against by the fact that we're. Microsoft and other companies are learning that their employees are are basically just as productive at home as they are in the office, and then you begin to think well, who needs who needs a headquarters we saw that with Rei they built a big new headquarters than sold it to went to Google I think. Dr Bucks just kind of. Shut down its headquarters in. To Re Jigger it and it'll just be a place where their offices that you can get on your computer and exactly. It's so those those sort of offices that become work share spaces. You know they become like those hubs that were people can drop in and drop out. In starbucks said they weren't coming back for at least a year so. I think downtown. They're really going to have to do some creative thinking even though the impulse will be, how do we get the cruise ships back? How do we get the Convention Center beefed up? I think they're going to have to think of a a new creative iteration. We don't is totally clear right now. I totally agree with let Kanoute saying because just in speaking again with people who don't live or often go to downtown Seattle I've heard it described as scary and that they would think twice before they're now So definitely agree with commutes added there. I've heard Ghost town from the I was. GonNa. Ask about that phrase I have heard that phrase go on Eli. Well I actually I mean I'm part of the problem to the extent that it's a problem I haven't been the downtown in months. I have I just haven't needed to, and I'd been trying to observe all kinds of covid precautions so same. I'm part of making a ghost town. But when I hear from people who you know happen to go through it they, they are kind of surprised I guess maybe a little shaken but surprised and they describe it over and again as a ghost town. But so ghost town I mean won't won't rent I. I am no I'm no Joseph Stiglitz here I'm no I'm no Richard Florida. I'm no urban EST but don't don't ranch just drop until there's more renting or is there something about the build-up that's made it that these are? Bizarre businesses and offices and residences that that just won't be filled at any price. It's going to know L. boarded up I, don't I really don't know how that goes. I haven't checked prices in quite a while, but there have been a lot of business owners who've moved out of downtown specifically because of. The property whether it's renting or taxes whatever they say they've moved out of there and they're not seeing the same type of income coming in with the way the economy is right now. Definitely a lower income but don't do rent's not drop to a point where they're filled with different tenants. Or people paying less. A. Class on the University of Washington. Rate. Hall. I'm sitting on the. Looking at a chart a very neat looking chart. Yeah one would think I suppose it depends on what the lenders will allow these various developments. They've underwritten you know sort of betting on this is sort of economic boom. There was interesting data out this week in the Seattle Times about the fact that basically. A fifth of the jobs in Seattle, more than any other city of equivalent size or stem jobs. and. That that's really amazing in, and of course, the top category and there is the software people who write software in second is engineers. In this also suggest to be that. That those those folks are going to increase where they choose to live. May Draw. So you not only have people not wanting to come downtown, but it might be more viable for people to to look at a broader geographic area in order to do their work away from home. So. Yes. Something's going have to happen on all those rents and all that commercial space. Will, also be guessing quickly to see how this plays into the ongoing in forever clash about what downtowns should be should we have more bike lanes? Can we afford that given the so-called war on cars or whatever people have updated that phrase to now? Can we have more parks downtown You know who knows what downtown will be on the other side of the pandemic but perhaps there is. An. Opportunity for making it a more livable breathable Bible sharable space. We'll see I feel free to email me to tell me that rate hall never actually had an Econ one, one class in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, three I might have been slightly off on that. This. Is So we can review. Husky Bill Radke with Jennifer, lea of q thirteen and Sanders of the Wild West Newsletter Birger from cross. And you can watch us do our thing at facebook or at Youtube we're GONNA come right back and begin to wrap up the week in review state win by the way we're going to talk. A couple of health crises. One of which we hear about constantly and one maybe we should be and we'll also even talk about something that makes us smile when we return. Cova cases have been rising in Washington since mid-september in. King County Public Health Officer. Jeff do Chen says we have about one hundred, forty, one, hundred, fifty cases a day, which is about twice as many as a month ago it started with the smoke event in the turn in the weather that we think a lot of people indoors and we know that in the wintertime and the bad weather more people do come indoors, which gives the virus a lot more opportunity. To transmit from person to person I, think of it as the virus now has home field advantage we had home field advantage for the first bit. Now, the virus has home field advantage and we need to step up our game. The virus has home field advantage that is disturbing metaphor, the virus, the home team in humans are just the visitors or something Jennifer. What what are we doing to? What's something? We're doing to fight a virus that has an advantage. Just. Checked back in with the Tacoma Pierce County health departments case in contact investigation team, and they've grown over last few months in they now have over forty case investigators. They've actually interviewed several people who have also gone through introductory training. I thought this is interesting. So a have a reserve team that they'd be able to fully train up and be ready to go on the on the chance they need a larger team to take on the case investigations So that I mean is still one of the best ways for us to contain the corona virus is to test and identify and then contact trace close contacts so. This was interesting because we actually talked about it over the summer all your off bill One of the questions that was brought up was what if the person doesn't answer the phone and I was really curious about that went back and they asked them and actually they're mandated to contact the individual four times. So that's three phone calls a text message, and if they still don't hear back from this person whether it's a positive covid tasks or close contact than they end up receiving a letter in the mail So don't you if you're signed up can't you give your phone location and they just come and find me? GPS. Right right no privacy concerns there. Okay. Well Jennifer. Meanwhile, you've been reporting on a health crisis that we would be hearing more about if it weren't for covert. Yeah for sure just this week one of our colleagues. Omar Luis reported. That king, county public health is reporting a hundred thirty five sentinel overdoses and that it's disproportionately affecting young people and that's last year in total. There were one hundred sixteen overdoses and this is one hundred, thirty, five this year to date, and we still have two more months to go These are hills that are laced with that null. They look like real pain medication and dealers are selling them on the street So this is something that authorities are trying to tackle. The DA has just started a new task force. To try and find these drugs that are currently bringing being brought in from drug cartels from Mexico So they're very large operations. They're very terrifying and I just interviewed a local family on parents in Bellevue who lost a twenty year old son name was Bobby Osborne and he would have been twenty one years old in December and they say that he grew an addiction to pain medication after getting his wisdom to remove last year So you know this is something that a lot of young people are being impacted by and. I think. It's a scary process obviously to heartbreak heartbreaking loss when you lose a loved one but I think the steps leading up to that point or just such a struggle for families who? are trying to care for a loved one who is battling addiction. Thanks for that Jennifer just WANNA make sure we're talking about the opiates and synthetic at the same time. We can do this. We can talk about that at the same time we're talking about covid nineteen. It's really important reporting from Jennifer and one piece of this larger struggle were having as A. Society in America dealing with a narcotic painkillers in I. Think it was this week. Purdue Pharma announced that it was going to pay something like eight billion dollars for its role in the opioid crisis that impart you know a lot of the stories in the opioid crisis are similar to the one that Jennifer just recounted someone goes in for a normal medical procedure wisdom teeth out or you know something. More involved and their prescribed. opioid pain medication, and then have big trouble getting off of it. Now, there's been a huge movement in the medical community in the country in recent years to really dial back the number of opioid pain medication prescriptions to try the stemmed the resulting crisis of addiction. But it's a really hard problem to solve people want pain medication when it doesn't work something stronger and when they get addicted is a very difficult thing to get someone out of just by saying, we'RE NOT GONNA fill your prescription any more at the doctor's office because then as Jennifer is reported, people turn to what's available on the street and can sometimes unfortunately end up buying painkillers that. Jennifer shown are are laced with federal. Kanoute I do believe it or not WanNa talk about things making a smile anything. Do you have anything I asked about either are sentinel situation or where we are in the Cova curve this week Well. There's been very interesting about the fence because that's a topic I don't know a lot about. So I feel like, I've learned something today from from my fellow guests as far as Kobe goes I think the frustrating thing for a lot of people across the political spectrum is. An answers to win it's going to be over. and I think that one reason you're seeing increases in cases is people's frustration with. Social distancing or lockdown, or masks or whatever. I think all of us feel some sense of frustration that we want to be able to resume life as normal. And fact that there's You know we keep we. Were uncertain as to whether and win a vaccine is going to show up and whether we effective. and so I think that element of insecurity uncertainty and frustration is GonNa, take a toll even more of a toll as time goes on. Next week be telling you. GotTa to be interviewing a University of Washington epidemiologists about how to form pandemic pod, a bubble of people that you. Live separately but you've agreed with these people to be careful outside your pod, and then whether it's your. Doing joint childcare or just hanging out or whatever it is maybe without a mask maybe with a mass so that could affect might make some people smile next week I'll be welcome guidance. Yes. Yes, and that's where I want to end I. Try to end on something a smile worthy last week in the same time of the show at the end I was saying, well, I'm happy that is equipped. Hillside cemetery is hosting a Halloween graveyard. And I described it and the panelists were horrified like, how could I be so? That here we have Halloween, an ancient remembrance of the dead and I had to go make it about death. Sorry. Apologize for ruining the Mexican festival of Dod Las Mounds. Bars. But if you prefer your Halloween events more lively and less dead that how about this one city fruit donates locally harvested fruit to people in need and this Sunday Ken Jennings. The all-time Champ and probably future host of jeopardy will host a fruit themed Trivia contest and CIDER tasting hard cider hard questions ticket sales go until Saturday evening the virtual party starts Sunday at five. How's that for wholesome? Although after the Trivia Game Ken Jennings, we'll eat everyone's brains. So I'm just kind of. So you're warrant forewarned anything making any of you? Smile. I think we have to return to the fact that the election is almost here. Of Your friends how many of your listeners bill have been calling in for four years saying we can't take it anymore. We wish Election Day was today is about to happen. That's really exciting good point to got a minute or so anybody else smiling. I pick up my balance as like a prop I would do it now to I'm going to be voting this weekend's also very excited about that Um. So yeah, I'd Echo. What you just said that if you haven't voted yet get out there there. So many easy ways whether it's through mailing it in with USPS or going to ballot box And could you have news of a border war? This is it's not like smiling like I'm enjoying it but I am kind of amused. France and Italy, or apparently in a in a hot fight over who a the top of Mont Blanc belongs to. Apparently. This tape. This is in the in the French and Italian else who has the tallest of all the Alps and? They're having a dispute over who controls the top the French want to regulate it. So it doesn't get overrun with people the Italian say well, as Dr Territory you can't do that. They actually share it, but it's just the thing about humans I. Mean we'll fight over anything. Yes. You know this is really just a dotted line on a map. We're hardly anybody ever goes and yet. It's a war drums are pounding between Italy and France over this we have it here King County line runs across the Cascade Ridge and I don't appreciate the kid attest. County incursions. Call him out Daniel. We know it's called Mount Hinman. Okay. Back off Kittitas County. That is the week in review. Our time is up q thirteen Jennifer Lea, the wild west newsletters Eli Sanders Cross cuts editor at large canoe birger. Thank you, everyone. It's always a pleasure. Thank you bill guys. The show is produced by Sarah Liebowitz and we get a live stream online brought to you by Juan Pablo Akiva, and tops pesky. I'm Bill Radke talk to you next week.

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How Vulnerability Leads To More Gratitude with Jennifer Leigh

The Gratitude Podcast - Stories That Inspire Positive Thinking

35:32 min | 2 years ago

How Vulnerability Leads To More Gratitude with Jennifer Leigh

"I think I I truly experienced it. When I went through my divorced. So I would say I dreamed it the most on a personal level aside from work when I was at my worst. And when I quote unquote, hit rock bottom, and I pretty much lost everything in such a quick amount of time. I really knew exactly who was there for me. And the people that were there for me they had such big hearts in. They wanted nothing. More than to just help me get off the ground in rebuild than so that was a huge moment. For me. I'm very much grateful for those people who took a chance on me and helped me whether it was something very simple to helping the ongoing it was incredibly important in. I'm very grateful, and I continue to tell those people to this day. How grateful I n for the help that they gave me in two thousand fifteen. Welcome to the gratitude podcast on WWW dot George Bente dot com. You'll hear a new story each week that will inspire more gratitude in your own life. Our mission is to inspire one hundred thousand people to discover how to feel gratitude. Food and live a happy life through the amazing life stories of our successful guests, and they're actionable tips had now the host of our podcast Georgian Bente high gratitude seeker, welcome don't you happy? So that the gratitude podcasts today with us. We have Jennifer Lea from graceful and gumption Jennifer is the founder of graceful and gumption, and she wasn't always the people in address that she's today after a difficult pregnancy traumatic surgery surgery shortly after and her divorce she sold the skin care company that she had founded for a dollar and walked away from everything she had known. She has been through quite a few experiences and setbacks, and she knows how to overcome them and be quite an amazing lady. That's that's been able to get back can get back in style. And I think that's that's wonderful. I think we can learn quite a lot from her experience. So Jennifer, let us know a few other things about you that I forgot to mention and welcome to the gratitude podcast. Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here today and chat with you. I think the biggest thing right now on my life is my boys. They're six years old twin boys, so they keep me fairly active when I'm not working, but I really have enjoyed opening up more and more the last six months or so sharing my story and being asked to talk about it and help people in some way with whatever may resonate with them. So I enjoy writing and blogging about a lot more. More topics that are more in depth than what you normally see. So it's exciting to write about it. But also to come on and talk about it. So I'm just happy to be here on the full wonderful hep to have you here. So as I was telling you before we got to record. I'm thinking that an interesting perspective on on gratitude that we haven't spoken about much on the gratitude podcast is the perspective of vulnerability of. Letting ourselves be vulnerable and letting in help from other people. So that will get to gratitude how how do you see vulnerability as something that allows us to leave more fully our life? I think the biggest part, and this is probably one of my favorite things to talk about is combining gratitude and vulnerability which is rare that we actually get to do that. But I think the biggest piece for me is acknowledging that in order to be vulnerable. You have to let people in and you have to open up and the best way to describe it as you're you're completely exposing who you are in every bit about you in order to really break those walls down and be vulnerable. And then going off of that you're adding the gratitude piece in to me gratitude is all about being thankful and being present. And allowing those meaningful pieces to come together. And that to me is what really kind of catapults you to a whole new level of being in the moment. So I think. That going into that a little bit deeper when you allow that vulnerability to happen, you start to become more thankful for all the little things around you from how people talk to you too. What's going on in their life to what's going on in your own life, and you start to release the where people are and where you are. And instead of focusing on the small mundane negative things you really start to focus on. Wow. You know, I'm I'm so grateful for what I have. I'm so grateful for these little pieces of my life and being able to go to bed at a decent time and drinking water, and such you know, such things that we take for granted every day. But you really you really open your eyes to that. Yeah. That's so true. And I will I was thinking about my own experiences with volubility, for instance, for for many years. It was very hard for me, even to be vulnerable about the things that I didn't know like it was really hard for me to ask for help for regarding things that I I didn't know. But I thought that I was expected to know. And that was it was so interesting for me to have different experiences. When when I was vulnerable, and I was sharing the fact that I was struggling with something, and I got the help and it felt so amazing that I received that help. And until then it was a it was a struggle. It was something that was very hard for me. That was that was basically. That actually disappeared really easily when I opened up a night I asked for help. And I think that's so interesting in in how these things work. Absolutely. I I think for most of my twenties, I felt so compelled to prove myself and to perform at such a level that was not realistic to myself or anybody, and I put so much pressure on myself to know, everything and do everything, and I would get so excited when people would say or your superwoman in you're able to do it all, but I also believe that it comes at a cost. So, you know, everything you say yes to your saying notice something else, and I really didn't understand that until it kind of all just came crumbling down. And that's when I really started to focus on. Okay. I'm like a light bulb. That's never turning off. And eventually most people have gone through that at some point in their life. But you burn out, and you can only. Sustain that for so long. And so instead of asking for help I just kept going and going and going and going and then when I finally needed help no-one really understood what that meant. And they were expecting me to do it all and to carry the weight into always be the rock for everybody. And so it's such a foreign thing for everyone to understand. Well, wait a minute. She's asking for help in. What does that mean? I'm not really sure I can do that. So yeah. I mean, it's kind of interesting but now being in mid thirties. I have really understood the gratitude of of really saying thank you, and knowing that it's okay to ask for help and knowing that fine line between asking for help birth versus expecting it and not being grateful for what people do for you. Whether it's people that work for me or my family, or my friends or even my boys, I really hone in on that tremendously. Because I think that that is a piece that a lot of people forget to do and it goes way beyond just a simple. Thank you. So true. And especially with. The kind of people that we are like ambitious swanning wanting to do many things and to achieve many things it's even harder to to to be vulnerable because we we want to be perceived as being strong and being able to deal with everything ourselves. But at least in my experience, what I've what I've come to understand is the fact that the people that are actually strong or even stronger than the people that who are independent and are the people who are strong enough to trust other people to be vulnerable with them and to be interdependent. And that has been quite quite the lesson for me. And quite quite an interesting perspective to to see what what has been your your experience with this. I think that that's definitely for sure then the same for me one of the things that I try to focus really hard on is trying to find the balance in. I certainly don't have all the answers. It's a constant struggle for me. But I'm away better at it than I've ever been and one of the ways that I do that. And I try to balance it is I give myself kind every day whether it can minutes in the morning. So I start my day off and I focus on gratitude. So I focused on what I'm grateful for and what I have right in front of me that day, and then I also will stop a little bit throughout the day in just kind of. Continuously just say, thank you. And just take a moment. 'cause we we go so much, and we become robotic and the fact that we're just going and going and going even in the day to day. And so we're always thinking about what's next. It's okay. I have a meeting in an hour. I have another call. I have this. I have that. I have to pick up my kids. I have to go the grocery store, all these simple things. But they you just constantly thinking about what's next, and that goes for daily just as much as it is about what we want next in our life and to your point when you're very ambitious, and you're very driven. I think it's even harder because you're constantly focused on what's next. So I balance it with taking a few moments throughout the day and really kind of checking myself and taking a step back and focusing on what I do have in front of me and the simplest things that I'm grateful for as well as I utilize Thursday nights or a really great night for me because that's always a night that I know. No, I kind of either have it to myself, or I'm with a friend, or that's my my personal time where I'm not working, and I've really worked hard on not trying to schedule anything on Thursday nights. But reason so at least I have that one night a week. And that's where I eat by myself, sometimes or I'll just go for a walk or whatever it may be or I'll just sit down, and I'll just right and I'll focus all on gratitude. So it could be anything from I'm so thankful for just the ability to have good meals. You know in cook good needles in healthy food for myself to okay, I need to just take a step back and not focus on what's ahead. But just focus on being present. In the moment about something. That's huge for me. This is actually a really great dip like a really great habit to have to have that time for you. And. Time that you that in which you something very different from what you do each day. If you're always on the run you have that time to reflect to. Understand what we what was going on to to write it down to appreciate the beautiful things that happened. And I've actually never heard this idea until now, and I think it's it's really really good like one one day one evening were week. I think it's doable for all of our listeners. And I'm challenging you to to think about what would that they be for you? And even if it's if it's just I don't know how many hours do you give yourself for this practice. I would say it's about to. I mean, so most of the time I try really hard because I love to cook. And I love to just kind of come home and be present. But a lot of times I'm home in working. And I'm my mind is not shutting off. So for me. I think it's even harder. You know, when you don't necessarily have the the more structured nine to five type of job because your mind is going and a lot of times, even when you do, you know, you're bringing that into your home. So put my phone away. And I try to just really enjoy all of those little moments of that. And so I would say it's about two hours of really gist. No phone, and even when I'm eating I'm very present. And I think that's something that most people don't even do anymore. You know, you're eating so quick. And you're not even aware of actually taking a bite from the one of the coolest things I ever did. About three years ago was I went to this Buddhist retreat for a weekend. And I didn't know at the time that you couldn't talk. So that was difficult, but I got through it. And to this day, I've never forgotten that weekend, and how profound it was because it stopped me in my tracks. And it tapped me, and they taught you there how to eat and how to be present with your food. And so that's just my way of keeping that going every week, but you can certainly do it in not necessarily eat. But I think that's that's something that I try to take away and remember to focus on being present when I'm eating and remember that you know, nourishing my body what I'm putting in my body affects every day in how I feel and I think we get so caught up in that as well that we're not even realizing what we're eating and what we're putting on our bodies. So it's interesting to be able to do that. But. You could certainly like that you could go for a walk. You could enjoy a hobby that you love. But I think the biggest key is to do it for yourself. And no one else, even if you have a spouse or partner or children, I think it's very very important that to practice. Gratitude it starts with yourself and being able to be present with just yourself. I think is a huge piece that a lot of people aren't really doing. But don't you think it selfish? You know, I used to when I used to think with selfish, and now I've gotten to the point where I realized if I am not taking care of myself, and I'm not treating myself. Well, how am I good to anybody else used to be the other way around? But now by putting myself I for that small none of time in making myself a priority every week. It's amazing. How much I get done in how much better I feel about doing things for others because I know I'm taking care of myself. And that's just my personality type. I mean for me, I tend to put everyone before myself. So it's not been easy to learn this habit. But now that I'm in this wing of things with it. It is something that I feel is very important for me to make sure that I love myself, and I'm showing myself that I love myself before I do everything exactly. And they think so my question, of course, was because I knew how how you would sir like as an idea, and because I believe that being a little quote, unquote, selfish. His so important, we can give so much more when our copies full, and we can. Give from a totally different perspective. Like, we we give because we have enough inside instead of giving from a from an empty Cup when where it actually leads to frustration to all kinds of undesirable situation. So yeah, I think it's it's so important to do that than to do it constantly like like you're doing because we can actually be more and do more for people if we do this. And yeah. Yeah. At one of the best things that I've learned how to describe it. I think is that by rekindling that time with yourself and the fire and that spark within who we are that flame continues to touch anybody around us in. I've personally seen it in it is incredibly profound in one of the closest people to me said to me one time, you know, I kind of have to see it to believe it. And this is kinda when they when they met me, and they I don't think they really understood, but they truly started to see it and put it into their own life. And it was amazing the the pieces of their own life that they reported back to me and told me that they were able to see around them with other people, and it really does it really spreads like wildfire win, you are truly happy in your grateful for everything that you have. In your life. Whether it's the past or just being at piece for what you have today. It just like literally just kind of takes off. And it's it's a wonderful catalyst to help everyone around. You exactly it's been my experience as well. And I think it's it's something that we should all think about. Finding a place and time in our lives to do integrate because it's it's for everyone's good. Actually, if you're the kind of person that gets motivated by this. So what do you feel? I haven't ask you this in the beginning. What you feel that gratitude days? How how do you live grad did you then when did you first experience it as a as a feeling nudge, just as a concept as a word? I think I I truly experienced it. When I went through my divorced. So I would say I screened it the most on a personal level aside from work when I was at my worst. And when I quote unquote, hit rock bottom, and I pretty much lost everything in such a quick amount of time. I really knew exactly who was there for me. And the people that were there for me they had such big hearts in. They wanted nothing. More than to just help me get off the ground in rebuild them. So that was a huge moment. For me. I'm very much grateful for those people who took a chance on me and helped me whether it was something very simple too. Helping me ongoing it was incredibly important in. I'm very grateful, and I continue to tell those people to this day. How grateful I n for the help that they gave me in two thousand fifteen and I think it's very easy to get caught up in. Okay. Well, I'm here now, but I'm constantly reflecting on that. And that's part of my every day. You know, I share that with them, and I also pay it forward. So what those people did for me was probably like one of the best things that ever happened in my life. And I tried to do the same. So if I can help somebody rebuild which is why I do the podcast and why I write and y speak your bike in just help one person. Whether I've met them or not or whether there's someone close in my life. I wanna be able to do what those people did for me. So I think that was kind of the first piece is that's when I personally experienced it. And I think it's far as what got to does mean for me. It just means being incredibly raw invulnerable and finding that that piece of your life where you're just totally grateful for what you do have in in the present moment and not focusing on anything else. But what is right in front of you right now. And I think that that's where I started to really learn, okay. Am I in the right place, the my life? Do I have the right job? Do I have the right people around me is everything in my life, bringing me joy. And that is kind of how I stem my every day in my life around. These are such strong questions and important questions to ask ourselves and. Yeah, especially since we're going at times on autopilot. And we we just go with whatever's happening on on the outside than we are just reacting having gun intention and putting an intention at the beginning of the day is very very important than it can actually change how the day goes. And I think that's that's a really important point. And I also love the fact that. A you mentioned basically an experience in which you were very vulnerable. You you went through something that wasn't easy to go through and you'll your vulnerability actually let other people in to help out and that actually led you to to more gratitude. And I think that's that's really fascinating and really beautiful. And it's been my my own experience that when when? You get to be more more vulnerable with other people. It's you feel a wider range of emotions like you you feel richer. How was your experience from from this point of view? Yeah. I think this is one of my favorites. And it literally gives me the chill stocking about it. Because people ask me all the time. They're just like how are you so confident in how're you just so sure of your life, and where it's going, and I think the best part about that is the fact that I am incredibly vulnerable. There is nothing in my life anymore that I feel like I o in apology for and I've come to a place of everyone in their life has ups and downs. And there are things in everyone's life that were not proud of that we may have wanted to do differently or you know, that we've experienced and we have some type of level of shame. And I've learned that through all of those pieces you do find this level of vulnerability where? You just kind of become authentic in the fact that this is my life, and I can't take it back. I am Hoya today because of everything that has happened. But as you become more grateful for all of those pieces, the good and the bad, you you kind of shift, and you now really have your feet solidly planted on the ground. So what happens by being vulnerable? It'd be for me is that I'm finding that. I'm not wavering anymore and not swear that unbelievable confident comes from because I'm standing tall. And I don't let anyone words or hurtful dots or judgments waiver who I am anymore because I know that's like that's a true reflection of them in. It's not of me. And it's more about the deep internal work that you have to do to. Get there. So being grateful and having that gratitude toward your life in all forms and learning to take that into the realm of Boehner ability starts to stem you into a new world of that unwavering strength incompetent. And it keeps you very humble as well. Because it doesn't mean that you can't want things or have an abundant life whether it material or not it just means that you're constantly aware. And you're very grounded in terms of I know where I came from. I know who I am. I know that what I have today, you know, could be gone tomorrow, and by living in that mindset. You just have this beautiful sense of competence. And how you treat people and how you treat yourself, and it kind of really incredible thing. I agree. And I think it it relates quite well to to a word that I I learned recently, thanks to you gumption. It's it's so interesting. I've. It's it's a new word for me. And I had to look at up to to see what it's about. And I think one of the synonyms is resourcefulness and one of the things that gratitude helps us way it is with being resourceful because when you see the resources, and you appreciate the resources that you have you become resourceful. You understand that you have so many blessing so many people in your life that can help you, and so many actual resources that physical resources that you can use to get to where you want to go that it's it's easy to to be resourceful. Let us know little bit more about what does it mean to be? What does this word actually means gumption? I love that word. And I it was definitely it's it's been a word that I've resonated with for many years. And I think that my biggest piece in regards to gumption is just not letting anyone or anything stand in your way, and knowing that without a shadow of a doubt, whatever it is that you're wanting in your life for you. You know, you have to believe it inside you have to have that mindset, and you have to have that fire within you. And that's what is associate with the word gumption is just constantly just you gotta keep pushing forward. No matter what. And you have to keep that flame-lit. So however, you need to do that in order to push forward in your life. No matter the hurdles in the circumstances. You're gonna find a way to do it. And that is the one thing that people always say about me is no matter what you go through no matter where you live. No matter who you come across. You will always, you know, always say like I'll land on. Feet, and it is very true because I feel like my life has been very much a roller coaster versus a box and that sense. And I just keep going, but it is that mindset in that flame within myself versus relying on other people to provide that for me or to take care of it for me. So for me gumption is all about that internal flame within me. Wonderful and very powerful actually to have that as as a perspective. And also, I love the fact that you you'll also add that grace graceful. And I think it's a it's a beautiful combination. But I wanted to to task you who are those people in your life that help you be so strong all the time. You know, I have a small I have a very small, but very very deep connection with my friends. They have very much become my family. And I think that that was one of the things that I really struggled with long longtime was I never really felt like I belonged. So I always was kind of a loner, and I've always just done my own thing. And I've always thought that okay. I'm a leader. And I can do everything on my own. But through all of this invulnerability ingratitude, I've developed such deep friendships that have turned into what I would consider family. I've created my own family. And it's something that I'm very proud of. But they I would say are the people that continued to keep me going. They are there for me. When I need them. And I know that I'm there for them. I do try to keep that circle fairly small in regards to really being raw and vulnerable and just kind of having those people, and then you also have a kind of a larger network of friends and other people, but not so much on that level, but they are very much the people that have helped me get where I am today. And I wouldn't be here without them. That's wonderful. It's it's always great to have a chosen family and people that you you choose to be close and very close to you. I wanted to ask you where can our audience find you? I know that you have a website where they can reach you with a really beautiful idea the power to influence through self love. And yeah, I'll let you point our audience to to you and to your website. Sure. So again, speaking of the word gumption it in there. My website is graceful in gumption dot com, and I'm also user of Instagram, I would say more so than any other social media platform. I love the ability to use photos and. Right as well to capture in chat with people all over the world by just being vulnerable and grateful for what I have. So I am on Instagram. And then my website is also a great way to connect with me. Awesome. So thank you so much for being Hyun us and for sharing your experience and for being one Rable with us. And yeah, have a great day. Thank you so much you to pay granted you seeker. Thank you so much for taking the time to listen to this interview. I really appreciate it. And if you could think of one person that would also benefit from it share it with them, it might actually be the inspiration that they need to make their day or maybe even their life, much better. Thank you so much once again, this has been Georgia Banta, though, forget to keep seeking and spreading gratitude.

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Stats & Eggs, 11/11: DeForest Buckner takes his shot at the Niners

Niners Nation

04:07 min | 5 months ago

Stats & Eggs, 11/11: DeForest Buckner takes his shot at the Niners

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why ibm is helping. Businesses manage customer. Questions with watson assistant. It's conversational ai. Designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm dot com slash watson. assistant guerrero. Today is wednesday november eleventh twenty twenty. Here's what's happening with your san francisco. Forty niners today will be sort of a return to normalcy for the niners because they played on thursday last week. We haven't heard anything from kyle shanahan or anyone else in five days later today though we should get word on the health. Status of deebo samuel raheem oeser and richard sherman. And if the niners are going to have any hope whatsoever of beating the saints all three of those guys are going to have to play and play well on sunday. You'd at least think they'd cover the spread with those guys. Which if you're keeping track at home currently saints by nine and a half while the forty niners themselves have been silent. This week of former forty nine er has been saying plenty and it hasn't exactly been music. To the faithfuls ears. Colts defensive tackle deforest buckner was profiled by zach. Keefer in a piece for the athletic. Here's what he said about how his time in san francisco ended quote. I was hoping the forty niners would at least meet me in the middle. I definitely didn't expect them to trade me and poured my heart and soul into that organization to go from two and fourteen my first year to build a culture and get to a super bowl. You just don't expect to be traded. Everything buckner said there makes perfect sense except for the first sentence he was great player on some bad awful teams. He definitely helps set the culture and he was a key piece last season in the super bowl. Run but that first part about meeting him halfway is kind of bogus. Buckner wanted a huge chunk of his money. Upfront and the forty niners couldn't do that because of their cap situation an having to pay. George kittle it just simply wasn't possible to meet in the middle because you either get paid now or later it makes all the sense in the world. That buckner is a little salty about thanks and his agent is probably trying to make the forty niners look bad in all this but the truth is they didn't trade him because they didn't like him. They traded him because they couldn't pay him and they were getting a thirteenth overall. Pick in the draft back for an interior defensive linemen. That doesn't happen every day. So i get why bucknor's mad but if you're the forty niners i think you do that deal again and i think you do at ten times out of ten. We always give you something to read something to watch and something you might have missed something to read on this wednesday. If you want a little hope for the rest of the season go read jennifer lea chance latest piece on nbc sports bay area dot com. She offers a unique. Look at the forty. Niners playoff chances. So you're telling me there's a chance something to watch forty niners. Twitter was abuzz with the news. That vice president of player personnel adam. Peters went to the byu game presumably to watch their quarterback zach wilson this weekend look as the losses pile up for the niners in the second part of this season. Watch for more and more news and stories about quarterbacks. They've got their eye on something. You may have missed deebo samuel with seemingly upset with the nfl earlier this week. When he tweeted the following quote only played in three games and dunga tested for. Pd's five times what's going on well depot. It may have something to do with the fact that you're a man child on the field and tacklers bounce off you like ping pong balls more importantly what's the big deal. How about a little more focused on being able to play more than three games. I wanna less focus on. How often you have to pee in a cup. That's going to do it for this of stats and eggs please. Rate review and subscribe to the niners nation. Podcast network. you'll get this show. And all great shows including the shannon plan with kalpa. Zena cauchon rothen. They'll give out there mid season awards and dive into that adam peters. Byu story just a little bit. i'm rob stats guerrero. We'll talk tomorrow.

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Reacting to anti-Asian attacks and expanding vaccine access

Week In Review

51:59 min | 3 weeks ago

Reacting to anti-Asian attacks and expanding vaccine access

"Hey welcome to friday. Welcome to the weekend review. Bill radke. I can see my panelists this week because i have zoom and we are streaming the show on facebook and youtube. You can search. Kyw public radio and then like me. You can see my guests q thirteen reporter jennifer lea haisheng jennifer and everyone so nice to be here. Always nice to have you here. Seattle times investigative editor. jonathan martin. Welcome back hey bill to see you too and publisher of the wild west newsletter. He does not have a virtual background that says pulitzer prize winner. But i know that about him alive sanders. Good to see you again too. Nice to be back. We are going to review this week's news as we do which this week means we have to talk about some ugly stuff so before we go ugly. Could we just briefly say goodbye to applets and cutlets the candies so long made in kashmir washington near wenatchee. My mom got them. Every christmas. perhaps influenced by this ad apple. What are we gonna get down and have a common application hotline at a time like this need ideas. It's got to be something very special. Yeah something with a northwest flavor. I'll the make your about what's it. Cutlets is gone out of business and away know you're a nice person and you only want to speak well of the departing but you let me know that apple cutlets not your fav- well i respect for one hundred and one year old business easy to do respect for all the jobs that applets and cutlets created along the way but yes since i've been asked to speak at this funeral strange choice for me to go first but i was not a fan of applets and cutlets. I i do mourn the loss of jobs. And i'm excited about those apples. That will get to do something. That's in my opinion a little more tasty like the crisp or a pie more juice. Actually i started with you because that opinion is not uncommon it's it's like a northwest favorite. But it's honestly not one of my favorites. I think a lot of people feel the way that we do about appleton cutlets kind of affection. Jonathan is nodding his head case like grandma. What was it. Kind of reminds me of my grandma. Yes it tastes like grandma jennifer. How do you have any feeling one way. Or the other about appleton cutlets. I'm kind of neutral. But because of what i'm hearing from all three of you guys actually makes super curious like maybe i should try this before the market. You know mike on their website and try to order some so. I can join the conversation about this. That you guys would recommend trying. But i think i might do that. I would recommend year from the east coast right. I don't remember how long you've been out here. Yeah it's been almost a couple of years. I'm really like new jersey new york here. Okay well you have a little time. The store will stay open and the tour which understand. Jonathan martin has taken this tour. Have yes congratulations. That's going through the end of. May i like him. Don't get me okay. Online sales in mail order business will continue after a until june first so jennifer can try them to okay. That's that's appleton cutlets so to get into the news of the week. You know there have been this is. This isn't new in a way. There've been escalating attacks and reporting of attacks on asian americans in the seattle area and beyond physical violence racist insults this week. A white atlanta area man shot and killed eight people most of them women asian descent. A sheriff's office spokesperson. There said well maybe it wasn't about race because he said the alleged shooter blamed it on a sex addiction. There is also the issue of gender here misogyny which in this case is all bound up with race and sex jennifer. There's so many issues here. I wondered how you personally reacted and sorted out and how to think about this. Yeah it's extremely sad disheartening. And i think there are just so many emotions that are coming out from everyone in the community. Especially those in the asian american pacific islander community. I myself am korean-american. I'm super proud of my heritage in my family's history and when you hear about such attacks against americans at the start of the pandemic and then ultimately Just the horrible Actions that happened in atlanta this week. You know it's true. I'm fearful for the well being and safety of my loved ones my parents in some ways. I'm grateful that my grandmother isn't really leaving her home right now. Because of health and safety reasons But it's just it. Where do you even start. I mean they're just so many conversations that i think are so poor in better coming out that only denouncing racism but also talking about you know the complex nature of what some people have called systemic racism no matter what the authorities the sheriff's office in turkey county may have stated during their news conference this week and i hope that these conversations no matter how tough they may be will continue and i i really think they will never been like this comes up and and and it does over and over We talk we we notice we. We noticed the violence. We noticed the reactions. We noticed the reporting here. We are all journalists. Anybody else have any thoughts about what has happened recently. And reaction to it. Well i think the the response of a concern in some cases Certainty or Strong suspicion that this is a hate crime is pretty natural given the climate that existed and that was I would say fomented and a lot of ways by the previous president. And you know it's very hard to establish a kind of one to one provable in journalistic report causality right. But you can see that. There has been an uptick in crime of violence against asian americans. And if you look back over the last four years not just asian-americans but crimes against hispanic americans. There's the shooting at the synagogue. There have been just any any number of both high profile and unfortunately ignored incidents that you could make an educated guess Have something to do with the climate of our discussion. Whether it's around the corona virus or anything else so i. i know that. Because i'm a journalist and i'm on journalists twitter that there's been a kind of intense conversation at least in my twitter feed which i don't you know i don't want to have that standing for anyone else's reality but on my twitter feed About what to call this And i do have a lot of. I get why people come at this and say this is a hate crime. I think you can certainly say that a crime like this is hateful at the very least And you know i. I also have respect as a journalists for the amount of time it can sometimes take to determine the actual motivations whether they be simple or complex of A crime sometimes. It's very very easy and obvious. And sometimes it can take a long time and there's just this natural human response in a situation like this to want to know the why immediately of course and this frustrating reality that sometimes sometimes it can take quite a while to anything close to certainty. So what flows from that. Eli not not knowing what decisions should come from that based on whether you think you know enough or you. Don't well again if we're talking about if we're having a journalistic conversation then i think you know for journalists. I mean this is this is this is always very hard thing to cover as a journalist in multiple ways so You know i don't want to I don't wanna play a a tiny or large violin for journalists. But also i. I would hope that people could have empathy for journalists who are struggling to cover this on a lot of different levels but i think the primary focus should be on Conveying facts as they evolve and To leave space for the facts to evolve Which which they very well may in this case and you know any journalist. I think who's covered a major or even minor crime probably has some experience with this. I've had personal experience with how challenging it can be to figure out the why of crime. So i just i have a lot of respect for that. It just quickly conversation. Our newsroom is very much what you i was saying. We want to be as precise as possible. when describing motives and putting putting mass casualty events into some kind of larger context with the conversations of also kind of really gone to the Because of the investigate investigator initially said this was basically a sex addiction. And this was something related to Related to sex differentiating that from racism And i'm hate crime motivation. The competition our newsroom. It's very much been particularly for asian american women that they can be very braided together Sort of the fetish. Ization of asian women is very much Particular thing and also in plano with you. I said you know. I'm deeply concerned about the tale of of discrimination. That was sort of activated in trumpism We know that opposition every time a new party takes power. There's an opposition that rises we. We saw that for example at the tea party under obama there. Certainly the rise of of you know sort of the women's march in certain extent anti with trump. I'm very concerned that the discrimination that the the the all existing trend emerging trend of hate crimes is going to be accelerated. I'm very concerned about the return of you know we wrote about recently to turn of a neo nazi group in the inland northwest. I'm fearful that were injured. Gonna inch entering a new era of much more. Virulent and violent extremism. I'd also love to add to this conversation that obviously us as journalists we know that words matter in language is important just like we were all discussing And i think that we also saw that. Wording is not only important in what we as reporters journalists are putting out into the public. But you know even also from authorities in the way that their wording details of the case or investigation as they come out and you know just earlier this week Over in the pinehurst neighborhood of seattle and there was a church it's called a international fellowship. Full gospel And they in their parking lot a person had with hey Written now basically f china you will pay And you know obviously there is a lot of feedback that is coming in from the community about. Oh like can you characterize that as a hate crime. Even though the church believes it is You know seattle police day. Save that it's in the hands of the bias crimes detective but it hasn't been deemed so just yet But i think it just all points back to we choose to use. Our words is so important not only from a career perspective but also in the interactions were having with so just wanted to put out that reminder just e kind be thoughtful seattle police say they are investigating a recent rise in hate crimes targeting. Asian americans chief adrian de as says last year police received fourteen reports of anti asian. Hate crimes up from nine the previous year. We have a detective assigned full time to investigate hate crimes and bias incidents and we're finalizing the hiring of a new chinatown international district public safety liaison. Dss strongly encourages. Anyone who's been attack. Call nine one one. If victims or witnesses do not speak english. Our cities nine one. One call takers can link to interpreter certified and over two hundred languages and dialects on the spot. But not everybody thinks more policing the answer. I spoke with seattle based journalist. Jane see who i mean over last year we've seen that Black and brown people are disproportionately targeted by police And i mean even just yesterday if we look at what happened in that press conference with police in georgia describing What happened with that. Horrific murder Often in that situation. At least we saw that police were really kind of taking the perspective of the perpetrator Which made the families of the victims. And just the general asian american community ask who police are really serving here. So does anyone have any thoughts on that. Debate of policing is a solution or not a solution to racist attacks. Well then perhaps we can. We can leave that linger because that's That's a conversation. The city's having they offered it wasn't just policing the the mayor and the police chief said that we're going to do more outreach. We're gonna offer community service officers but also more more more policing which some people are calling for and some people are not This is the week in review. We are going to get to the latest on covid. Vaccinations the governor making another adjustment. This week and we'll talk about that and more when we can review comes right back. This is bill radke. we're talking the news of the week. Jennifer lea jonathan martin and eli sanders this week governor inslee said two million more people in our state will be eligible to get the covid vaccine. Starting march thirty first that includes restaurant workers people living or working in congregate settings people aged sixty and older people with disabilities who are at high risk and their caregivers Just again a panel journalist. Is it clear that the governor is in line with majority public opinion on this even though you know we're also hearing about new more contagious variants. And and they're telling us to keep being vigilant they're expanding vaccination without supply for everyone and there's even some talk about who oughta get it. I write the governor expanded it to restaurant workers that was new compared to just earlier. Any thoughts on this. This constant juggling that we're doing with this pandemic in this time there has been real sort of whiplash with the tears. The prioritization. We just had a event this week a town hall event. And there's a lot of discussion about that. I think that what we're seeing is basically what is kind of the inevitable part of the vaccination processes that just. Everybody needs to get jabbed and there was when there was much More scarce supply the the prioritization was more important particularly getting people were the most vulnerable. I but now i count with like three million people. Basically eligible under these tears and there's existing one million. Just add a two million. You know there's about four and a half million adults in washington state so we're reaching the point that most people Majority of population are eligible. We are seeing dramatic ramp up in the supply. The johnson and johnson vaccine adds to the other two with increasing doses. So i consider this sort of a a encouraging phase of the pandemic response. I think we've seen time and time again from. Ihs the institute of health metrics and evaluation that know people who are in the highest risk categories if they were to get vaccinated sooner That down the line these obviously projections that we would see fewer number of people die so from that standpoint You know. I i definitely can respect The way that you know the vaccination process has been laid out I do know that there was obviously a big fight from the hospitality industry especially with phase. Three opening up next monday Diners can now go to restaurants at fifty percent capacity That they too especially with the exposures that it would be facing a wanted to be eligible for the vaccine so the fact that we are moving up sooner i would like to matt of positive And i think for people who are hopeful to get out of this life situation. We're all in right now sooner I think the better so hopefully all of this will eventually work down the rope. I am curious to see how the vaccination appointments are going though for people who are looking for them. Well yeah and that's a subject of some controversy and as is the definition of who's most vulnerable. I could give many examples just just this morning. Colleague of mine who lives in an apartment complex said that the apartment managers sent residents a letter. Saying you're eligible for a covid vaccine apartment dwellers use shared laundry and stairwells and elevators. And i said wow is that. Is that how you read. The governor's guidance and she said no. I said well. What are you gonna do. And she said well. I'll get the shot. The governor doesn't say that that this is wrong so so now if somebody wants you to get vaccinated and the governor doesn't say they're wrong and then you're in so i so i wanted to know well. I don't know i could be wrong. what is. Let's ask the governor's office so we did. And we got a response. Saying that apartments complexes do not count as congregate living facilities. The notice residents received as inaccurate The eligibility tear relates to specific examples of congregate living from corrections facilities to homeless shelters group homes workers in congregate housing such as farm workers in cabins. But understand that you can defy sure you could define living in an apartment as a congregate setting especially if you're if the laundry facility is shared or whatever but but the fact that when you sign up for an appointment you could lie you could fudge. You could kind of think of the guidance what you want to think of it and you can get in. So it's this really it's a it's a troubled inbetween time with some with some. I don't know some resentment and fomo happening and manipulation on the part of people in positions of authority. I think the thing that you're describing may happen more often than we know someone say who owns a small business and just wants to get going again telling its employees. Hey you're critical workers to me go back seen exam and so I don't know how you police that and in the end i think personally my view it's really wrong to go and lie in misrepresent yourself a vaccine clinics say. You're a critical worker when you're not but that just seems not only wrong but disrespectful to the actual critical workers. I think that's just a really clear so for people struggling with moral choices around this for whatever it's worth there's my sanders more claritin however I also do feel that. Any vaccination is a community benefit in the sense that it it helps. Stop the spread. And there's also these other I think not quite grey areas but not really planned experiences where vaccine clinics defrost more vials of madonna pfizer. Vaccines than people. Show up for and they've got to use them. And so if you do get a call which you know. Probably a lot of us know this people they know saying. Hey there's i know someone who works at a clinic who says there's extra shots go now. I don't think there's something wrong helping them. Use those shots even if you're not in in the group so it's just it's murky. It's all connected to great news. Which is that. We have a lot more supply of vaccine than we used to. And and we're just getting to a point where it's a sort of scramble to get it in enough arms fast enough. I mean the real policeman is seattle social shaming right. We have a we are. We are generally rule following area. People lacrosse is when you walk and So i can give you a dirty. Look if you're not wearing a mask but i don't know who's getting vaccinated or not the social shaming gets more complicated. What is one encouraging thing to we We've been asking about Vaccine waste and There's actually very little apparently very little of that happening. The systems are getting much more efficient. My team has written about The software problems at really snarled getting appointments causing real delays. Initially those have been a much more worked out so after the initial rocky roll out I give credit for for getting more of its act together and getting a getting a mass vaccination program That is offering things like opportunities just on the side door when you got. You got doses. You gotta use get them all right. Well i noticed one more thing here. That the i guess the adults with two or more underlying medical conditions. So it's anyone over sixteen with two or more. Underlying medical conditions are going to be eligible at the end of march and the state website links to the cdc's list of underlying medical conditions and they include cancer and chronic kidney disease heart conditions and sickle cell and the list also includes obesity and smoking. So imagine you're fifty eight years old and you. I guess sixty years old and you would be eligible for a no your yes. You've got to be less than sixty you but you would have gotten a vaccine. Had you not just quit. Smoking lost a bunch of weight. So that's the social shaming inaction right. There bill goes all right. The governor also extended the state white moratorium on evictions and People standing in long term care facilities canal have indoor visits with friends and loved ones if either they or their gas or fully vaccinated so slowly. Things are starting to ease up here. One of the effects of the pandemic was an economic slump as described back in june by washington. State's chief economist. Stephen lurch longest economic expansion and us history is unfortunately over. We are now in a recession but jonathan washington state got a revenue forecast this week and it looks really good to be. It is a it was quite surprising. I got a on the next two year. The to the next year this year and Through two thousand twenty three. The state got three point. Two billion dollars more in revenue than it thought. This is the that that that's sort of the good news. The bad news is it's not only driven by a big uptick in jobs. There still The massive Jobs problem with the hospitality and restaurants It's the revenue was in part driven by the Seattle real estate market Real estate taxes are way up. So that's still the the froth on our law economically And interestingly were Going through the revenue forecast. We are smoking a lot of pot. there is an incredible uptick in can abyss revenue which has continued now through the pandemic but You know what the what. The revenue forecast means is that In the last recession the legislature adopted basically cuts cuts based approach to balancing the budget. There was a great deal concern that that was going to be repeated in this cycle and what it And concern because that cuts based approach had a long tail of consequences that led to a series of spring court rulings in federal court ruling about the mental health system Vulnerable americans be washingtonians behind And all sorts of other problems It does not appear that this legislature is going to have to be In a in a cuts mode with the set revenue forecast and it does any of this due to how much of this do. Federal covert relief. Money that congress just passed and didn't republicans make an argument against congress giving money to state governments that they'd be bailing out states. That don't need it. Were they talking about us. That's that's true. I think. I think the republican argument against it was much more about states that had massive unfunded pension liabilities state of illinois for example has a massive pension problem. I don't believe the revenue forecast accounted for Pandemic actions by congress with unemployment which really helped with The spending for example you were still able to spend because because the Unemployment checks are still a little bit larger than normal we have not yet received as my understanding. The really large checks From this From the american recovery plan. In that i think is also going to be helping said. Avoid a cuts based approach because of the pandemic recession. Okay my next question. Then i'll turn it over to our other panelists for any comment or questions but washington. Typically democrats have been using the pandemic recession as one reason. Not the only reason by any means one reason to tax capital gains. What does this rosy revenue forecast. Due to that case i was. I was asking jonathan. Because i questioned the argument for a capital. Gains tax has been fairly consistent from democrats that we have If one of the most regressive is not the most regressive tax systems in the country which means that poor washingtonians pay a what much larger percentage of their income than rich washingtonians. So the argument has been that taxing capital gains would help basically it's her level off that regressive a bit there has been I think there was an interest in adding this capital gains tax at for revenue purposes as well in the as the pandemic cliff economic cliff of loomed in olympia. I think the tension for democrats is going to be. Now with a rosier economic picture in olympia for revenue. If the new progressive tax which seems likely to pass is going to be offset offset some of the regressive taxes that democrats and liberals have really you know taking real aim at so whether this is going to be a just a net add with a capital gains tax or it's going to be offsetting the regressive is going to be an argument. I think that's still playing out okay. Any other thoughts on flush washington. I may not have followed closely enough. But i've been confused by the argument that you know if we're entering a new roaring twenties and everyone's going to be spending more and state revenues are going to be going up then we don't need a capital gains tax to counter the regressive our tax system because it's in the boom times when you see their the regress city even more starkly the regressive in our state is linked in large part to the sales tax and as people start spending and spending and spending you will see even more clearly that lower income people have to spend more of their finite resources on sales tax than billionaires. Do and so. The case becomes even more clear why not tax a little bit. Their capital gains so. Maybe i've missed something. But i have not understood why people are now arguing that hey because Because we've got more revenue coming into the state coffers. We don't need to combat our tax regressive with a capital gains tax that that seems It seems to me like the opposite is true. Okay yes going. I even heard that argument that it's not necessarily. The republican argument has been that washed. Sperm court has banned income tax or ruled income taxes and constitutional and the question is whether capital gains are income taxes Democrats say no that the tax on the excise excise tax the tax on the sale of the stock republicans said it's a tax on income. It seems to be a fight that the democrats want to take to the supreme court on and Settled this one for all yes. It will definitely go to court if it passes. Okay we're going to move on something has been In the back of my mind we've been after we left the knitting topic. Because i i feel like i might have. I might have made myself clear. I am not in no way. Do i resent somebody who has underlying medical conditions of a smoking addiction or obesity. Going to get a shot. I'm going to be the last person who ever gets shot. I'm working from home i'm in a pa- cocooned with a single family house. I am very very lucky and waiting for any everybody more eligible which then me which is almost everybody and that includes somebody who has any of these underlying medical conditions. But i thought maybe in my in my pointing out that irony ended up sounding like i was being dismissive. Zev sounded like bill. I just thought it was really inappropriate that you did that while you were chain smoking through this whole show. That's what was nagging at me. Thank you okay. That's sanders from the the wild west newsletter. We have jennifer lea here from q thirteen. Jonathan martin from the seattle times and when we come back. We're going to see what's left of our privacy so stay tuned to weaken review this bill read. Eli sanders a lot of folks are nervous about. Having their online data sold our state legislature keeps proposing ways to prevent a loss of digital privacy. But they keep rejecting those ideas. What is happening now please. For the third year in a row right now. The washington state legislature is considering the washington privacy act and like you said. A lot of people are concerned about online privacy. They are concerned about where their information goes when they give it to facebook. Or when they're tracked by google or any other large or small tech company if they understand This part of the business. They're concerned about the markets where information is sold and resold repackaged and sliced and diced to create profiles of consumers. And so it can sound like a really great thing. That washington state is coming forward with an online privacy act but this act has failed for two years in a row and is being questioned now for a third year by the likes of the aclu the tech coalition immigrant rights activists. Because it doesn't go far. Enough in their estimation and in their analysis is filled with loopholes that just benefit large tech corporations like microsoft which is one of the major Pushers of this bill. And it's not just a problem for washingtonians if you pass a week bill. The larger context of this is that to me unfathomably. The federal government for years has failed to move forward with any sort of national digital privacy. Act so americans have no federal regulation around their online privacy rights. those rights have yet to be a numerator by the congress and that's left states to kind of go it alone so california in two thousand. Eighteen passed a very strong digital privacy act over the opposition of a lot of tech giant I believe facebook was one of those opposed. If i'm remembering right and since then we've seen another state. More recently passed the privacy. Act virginia and that state's law according to testimony testimony. This week in the state house in olympia. That virginia's law was modeled on an earlier. Rejected version of the washington. Privacy act the implication being based on this and there's also reporting out there to this effect that microsoft has been essentially shopping this privacy act around to lots of states to try to try to get them to pass it now why well. If federal regulation is looming it can be beneficial to the tech industry to be able to say well. Look here's six states. That have passed a privacy act. And they're fine with it being you know what the aclu calls week and full of loopholes. So when for example washington's junior senator. Maria cantwell who is now. The chair of the very powerful commerce committee in the senate starts to talk about her proposed federal privacy act. It's called cobra. cop cra and it's gone nowhere but she's now in a position to move it. Forward microsoft and other tech leaders could come in and say well. Senator cantwell your home. State has passed a law that for example lacks a private right of action. This is a big issue in the debate in olympia right now and what that means is individuals cannot sue tech companies when they violate their privacy. You as the individual have no private right of action so the company has the right to your data. But you don't have a right to redress against the company individually in court when the company does something wrong with your data. The attorney general washington state. Bob ferguson thinks there should be a private right of action right now. The law leaves it all up to him to identify when individuals have been harmed and in prosecute and the maximum fine he could get per individual violation if he did prosecute is seventy five hundred dollars which is not a lot per violation for companies that have valuations are many many times larger than the annual billions of dollars budget of washington state. So this is a really complex issue. I could go on but at the hearing this week in olympia. The big issue raised by people concerned with this. Bill was the lack of a private right of action. Y y they ask can individuals sue to protect the rights and these turning general washington state has the same question along with the lack of universal opt in requirement for sharing data in other words. If a company wants to store and share your data. You have to affirmatively opt in to allow them to do that rather than What what people will say as a backward situation where the default is that they can share some of your data and you have to opt out there is. The current law requires opt in for some data that it called sensitive. But it's not all data and this is. This is a big issue for the people who are trying to get this law revised. Okay good rundown of questions comments. Eli question for you. Why when the legislature has not taken action on something that has a broad. Popularity is typically going to initiative. That's what happened with for example marijuana legalization why has this not been initiative campaign. I'm not sure that's it. That's a good question My guess my i guess would be that. This is a very complicated issue and it would be hard to explain even through a months long initiative process. But my second guess in actually like this better than the first. Is that the people who want to get a stronger. Privacy act and might take the initiative route would probably actually prefer a strong federal privacy act and so if they can forestall a week act in washington state that gets used against you know for example washington's junior senator when she tries to push a strong federal act in dc then then that's a win and they so they would they would say bottom line better not to have anything than to have a week act but sets a precedent and the the proponents of the washington. Privacy act By the way chief among them representative reuven carlyle seattle. say well. they're making the perfect. The enemy of the good and the critics. Say no wait. This is not good. Right jennifer i was just gonna say i think it's Such an important issue like ally said i appreciate him kind of you know explaining all of this to someone who obviously isn't as a into the know about The privacy act. And i think it's really startling even as someone who's like a consumer on social media i'll be shopping on google for something in the next thing i know i'm being like swarmed with all of these ads So thank you eli for you know. Just explaining all of that and It'll be interesting because it's going to impact all of us going down again this year. Eli i don't know i. I don't feel like passed out of the senate. The state senate. I think there's just one vote in opposition so as nearly unanimous votes in the senate. Before and i have to say someone who watched my fair share of hearings in the house us in led the hearing for it this week in the house of zoom hearing. There's a lot going on but it was a like a pretty rushed hearing for a topic so important in it made me wonder how how deliberative the process is going to be in the house. While i'm on the overall here. I want to do want to say that you this can. This can seem a little abstract to people like a privacy. Well that probably doesn't apply to me so there's some concrete harm that people bring forward examples of have people's privacies been misused. I'll just give you a couple. You know Their apps that muslim americans use to orient themselves toward mecca and time there prayer-times useful app the. Us military has bought a trait tracking data associated with those apps right at which has been concerned people in the muslim american community. There are targeted ads. That have been run by antiabortion forces. Geo targeting abortion clinics. So that if you get in proximity of abortion clinic you get an antiabortion ad and the list goes on and on but when you start to hear it that way you can start to see the very real concerns. Including among immigrants whose data has been repackaged by private companies. That get it from the big tech giants and then sell it to ice and that's location data and so on this law being considered now that already passed one chamber. Do you know whether that law would have would stop or prevent any of those examples. You just gave. There was a woman who testified on behalf of immigrant communities in the hearing this week. Who said no. This law is not going to stop that harm in part because If you require people to opt out of their data being used in this way and they say don't have english as their first language It can be really hard to figure out how to pursue the opt-out strategy but that's just one aspect of the weakness in the bill in her mind. Okay covid toward the end of the show. I wanted to learn more about jonathan. Seattle's got a lot of people living in their cars and a lot of people who don't want people living in their cars and the washington supreme court is taking this up. What does that case. It's a case found stephen along a seattle who was working at I believe it was Safeco field time as a worker and was living in a truck Nearby pickup truck and came back to find his truck towed. The case is It's a fascinating because what the implications and also the history it sites Something called the homestead act which is essentially a washington state version of a federal law. That allowed you way. Back in the frontier era and eighteen sixties to claim one hundred sixty acres of land. This is basically the homestead act. Sort of what the way. the west was colonized so The question is whether or not washington state at the while while Somebody's home in this case a pickup truck to be i'm seized and sold with a due to Taxes basically fines on on the toluene and the parking violations so The supreme court has taken up the case. is is heard it in Expected to probably rule this year If this if stephen long wins one of the implications could be and of course. This is sort of like hypothetical and just sort of put the caveat there but it could mean that. Seattle's rule that prohibits parking for anything longer than seventy. Two hours could go way. I'm essentially would eliminate the ability for the city to Enforce long term parking rules and allow people living in their cars to be To do so Free of Of the risk of towing that's important because a majority of the people who are homeless in king county are in vehicles. It feels like there's a lot of tense but there's there's many more vehicles And it also is important because In the ninth circuit court which covers basically the entire west coast where I think about two thirds of the unsheltered homeless people. Basically people looking outside live The supreme court has already said that cities cannot criminalize tent camping a in west. There's a shelter bed available for them. This is a martin called martin v. Boise she might have read. And there's also a case is working. Its way up through Portland now are a through the portland. Us district court branch that has Essentially a ban on civil penalties as well so as not just criminal penalty for civil penalties as well. So there's a lot of court action right now which is affirming Essentially the rights for people to live outside. And it's important because this is a very hot political topic for people in seattle That where we see a lot of unsheltered homelessness and a kind of lack of progress. Getting people inside okay. Thank you for that rundown. This is going to take months right. We don't know win the state supreme court to rule on this. Yeah yeah okay jennifer. I know you've you've covered this issue to any comment or question before we start wrapping up with. What's making a smile. No not too much other than to say that You know it's understandable. I think what i had read about. This was that on. The city of seattle is not currently enforcing that law Because of the pandemic which you know. I think is understandable. You know you just think about a person And you know where they're living and You know you go back and think about conviction moratoriums and just think it's important to remember the humans behind humans who were living inside the vehicles. So i think it's definitely a talker and something that i think people in seattle are obviously seeing within their own neighborhoods in streets to let let us use our remaining time to were talking about racist attacks and homelessness and and and and a pandemic is anything making you smile that you can leave us with journalists. Return to my news from the plant kingdom. The last time you asked me this. I was talking about crocuses coming up and we have past peak crocus and they're kind of in peak daffodil and on to tulips all around town having their leaves up and their stocks with their buds. Starting rising we're going to be in tulip season soon and one optimistic sign of the pandemic easing. Is that. If you want to you can go to. The skagit valley tulip festival. You've to get a ticket online in advance. But you can also just walk around. There's tool of festivals and people's gardens all over the city. And you could plant your own for next year so i don't know have retreated into the plant kingdom for my optimism in the last year and and that's my bright spot understandable. The governor at i had only made crocuses eligible to appear in springtime. He's gradually expanding that. So damn also knowledgeable. It's good news jennifer anything worthy of a smile this week. Yes i'm new in gauge to now my fiance john creek goal in john. Yes thank you. So much of he proposed at the washington or u. dub arboretum. So luckily it did not rain during the actual proposal made that an hour window. Couple saturday saturdays ago. So it's hard to pull off in seattle. Yes so proposing around possibly surrounded by tulips and daffodils crocuses. We don't know congratulations jonathan. Any smiles for we go. Yeah i had a great smell this week. As a parent. I'm the pandemic's hard to watch the impact of pandemic on kids and i just want to give some log rolling for some youth theatre that has continued online young american theater company and a production company called penguin production do great work in the pandemic. And it's just wonderful to see. My daughter will giggling and laughing in front of zoom screen after being in front of it for way too much of the time after glowering screen for moving. That's great good. Thank you for the smiles. Thanks for the news. Updates to jonathan martin seattle times investigative a- investigative editor jennifer leak. You thirteen reporter ally. Sanders publishes the wild west newsletter. Sarah liebowitz produces our show. We could social media and live streaming from one pablo chiquita. Mto pesco and. We'll see you again next week and the week in review this bill. Radke again if you like that show. I think you're gonna like another. Kyw podcast called seattle now. 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Teddi Mellencamp Spills All the "RHOBH" Season 10 Tea!  Daily Pop 04/22/20

Daily Pop

15:02 min | 1 year ago

Teddi Mellencamp Spills All the "RHOBH" Season 10 Tea! Daily Pop 04/22/20

"Hello and welcome to daily pop. I am here. I am beyond excited because Teddy Mellencamp is he or she is from the real housewives of Beverly Hills. I just saw episode two in this show this season. It's a different show. It has a different energy and I need to find out why so. I'm going to bring on Tenny. Mellon can't get your butt in this chat high. Why does this show feel like a roller coaster? And we're on the week to imagine living it. I mean I get feels like a roller coaster. Because everybody's so much more open this year and it feels more fresh and Australia really like strip down some layers. I guess in many ways but strip down some to really get to know each other. Do you think it's because you guys have been together for a long time or did you guys have a conversation. Mike. Let's bring this season. That's elevated like what happens now. I think what happened is once we all started sharing more than started getting closer and closer. It just happens and not like Oh crap I M on TV show. Who were you surprised? Share the most this season I think probably Erica. I learned like a totally different side of Eric. I feel like I know her so much better than I did. The past two years like I. I completely agree as so. I'M GONNA sure from tonight's episode. This basically stirs up with seems like a lot of drama between the ladies. Let's watch this. Why not invite my girlfriend's to get confused about what I do for a living accountability coats? What does that mean not a therapist? This is a chance for them to see me in action. This is a disaster waiting to happen on it a little bit of alone text. I should have added at the bottom if you come. Don't be an asshole but party. Why all these ladies get together. Why does it always end up as a disaster? Because we're all a little bit selfish. Did we just want to do what we WANNA do? And then all of a sudden you you're coming support somebody else and then somebody panties getting twist becomes whole frick math. There's something going on with the season of housewives and we have not seen it on a reality show this consistent before it's what they call breaking the fourth wall where the cameras in the producers are now art of the show. Did you know that they were changing this? Show when you started this season absolutely not like I had no idea that was going to happen. I mean I just watched episodes when I saw it happened again and I was like. What does this crazy and then you start panicking because you say a lot to the producer like when you're doing your confessionals like trying to like get your point across before you actually answer but now it's GonNa be like a whole set. It's GonNa be insane. I really So now every week is like a complete surprise. How are you guys doing with this new baby in this corona Khorunzhy like what's happening children has yet? I haven't killed my husband but I have failed first grade like her. The virtual learning like is not. I'm like I barely made it through school. How can I possibly help my children? But now we're we are having fun. We have good days and we have crazy days like right now. I think there's four of us on zoom calls. What yeah definite chaos. Can you imagine I mean? Listen you are someone who has herself in control has her life in control. F- could you imagine giving birth right now in this era and honestly like I continue to feel so grateful about that? I mean there are husbands. That either can't even be in the delivery room or that can only come for one hour. I mean I have a girlfriend who sign is in the nick. You and she can't even go in. So it's you know it's really crazy you know and I'm really grateful for our health right now. You're speaking of hell. I learned closely what you do for living because Jennifer Lea Park. Who's a friend of mine? Is Law all in coach? And it's so fascinating that you guys keep people accountable and have these conversations with people. Why is this working right now for so many people because I've seen the weight loss journeys why do you meet your program? Works because so much of what people need. Right now is support and to feel supported. I mean you even talked about how people are fighting with their spouses and because they're wanting that that human interaction and with all of you are getting you know twenty four seven concierge service of support for your health and fitness goals. So you're taking care of yourself. You also have someone you convinced to. That's not your you know it's not like your friend that's GonNa be like all right enough already. I've heard it like this is our job to be there to support you. Explain how this works because I got it first hand glance at it and I didn't realize it was so personal so if I join all in I'm assigned to coach and I tell that person what I'm eating breakfast lunch dinner. The exercises that I've done what I drink that day. Almost everything and that person give me back and you have to do it by certain time so a lot of time like people. Have you know what happens with people skip breakfast? That's not an option for us so you just said breakfast lunch dinner snacks your workout. How you're feeling and you know what ends up happening. You Change Your lifestyle this way and if you have questions were there to answer them. If you've had a bad day where there to help lift you up. If you're being negative on yourself were there to call you on it. So you know people are like. You're an accountability coach. Andrew Housewife that makes note that makes sense. I'm like yeah it really does it except for what we do. Is your health and fitness goals. You don't want to like crazy ladies at dinner parties now. I'm not the account of come to our health and ventricles like I really practice what I preach. I'm very committed. And so are every single one of our coaches because they were once clients when Jennifer Levi Looks Amazing and then once you are feeling your best everything shifts. Your marriage gets better. You ask for that. Raise at work or whatever's going on in your life when you're feeling confident and you take action how people sign up for this all in by teddy dot com or you can go to our instagram. Go all in by Tammy. How're you doing because you talked about your weight? Struggles in the past and really getting over them and finding you know your own rhythm. What was it like getting pregnant? Did you ever have that fear of not being able to lose it because you were over fording why I'm thirty eight? Oh you're my age. Excuse me if the three kids. It's the morning at subtle shade. Actually this time you know with both Layton crews I did because you know. I never had a healthy balance prior but going into this pregnancy. You know obviously. I didn't even know that I could get naturally but I had just such a level of comfort because I knew I had actually changed my life to a sustainable lifestyle change versus before where it was all about like Fad Diets. And you know yoyoing in all this craziness you know. It wasn't the same this time around. I went in healthy and feeling good. Knowing how to nourish my body you actually had helped with the first two children yes that's it was intimidation I increase with IV multiple rounds. And this baby was all natural this baby. We're a Mexican Allen. You know he's happened. Do you think it's because of what you're how you're treating your behind now you know. I think I would hate to say that because I had such a struggle before and there's so many people that are struggling. You know that you never know the circumstance but I do think I wasn't focused on it. It wasn't my primary obsession like when I was trying to get pregnant with with slate and cruise. It was my all. I thought about an that stress. I think did add to some of the issues and you know this time around it. You know I was like Oh you know. I'm not trying not to get pregnant but I'm not trying to get excited. Can't look what apple I love it. I love that you're living your best life. I love that the season's going to be good. I loved it. I got to sit at Dinner Party from hell are too I just went on the shame? Spiral everyone who has not seen dinner party from Al? The first part are taking part in season one of us as Beverly Hills. You should watch it but in episode three of real housewives season ten. You have a moment it was. It was a moment I mean there at my. My husband had never seen that kind of moment before he's like we get Are on the way home. And he's like our. I cannot let's today and I'm like I did you to be quiet. I need you to be signed it right now. We have not had that many housewives film pregnant. It's almost unheard of you. Had to research it is in New Jersey. That was almost about it. How hard wasn't to control your emotions because I it would seem like any little thing would set you off you know. I think that there were parts that were hard but I mean I guess that same does for when you drink. A bunch of alcoholics are demand your motion so at least this year. I'm completely sober. So my memories on point but yeah. I'm definitely more emotional and I you know I really be that emotional. I wasn't ready for the reunion because you remember everything I mean. It's a running joke between all of us start like when things would happen and they asked any show remember. I'm like yes I do. I didn't miss a CROM. Did Not miss a rub. It's going to be a shady year in Beverly Hills two day this year this next three months. It's is there good evening. You're not looking forward to seeing you know. I think it's hard because even as we're watching each episode and you're seeing people's confessionals. There's certain things that you have worked through like in current time I think so and so and are cool and then I watch back to something. That happened three months ago. And I'm like the I can't say that about me or whatever it may be so like reliving that and also sometimes highlights characteristics characteristics about you that you're like that's not really my best my best quality but at least you know it and you understand it and you can reflect on it. Well I mean I'd rather be myself and be authentic the good bad in the ugly then be a phony and have to watch that back and not be able to live with myself right. What's going on? You already announced that you were pregnant then invoke you've walked the runway and it's only episode two and there's a lot more. I mean like I was. I was actually talking the call this morning. I'm like Oh yeah my next bothering issues like this show started airing like you start getting symptoms. I almost forget sometimes because I you know working for Kyle for five years you. It's like a cycle like elk. We go in here the tense. Like it's going to be ten cent here and you almost forget how crazy it is but when you're a housewife especially a beverly hills the amount of people who comment in tweet and have something to say is beyond like anyone else to show. How do you handle that on? A weekly basis. He knows some weeks. I'm really good like I'm like you know all the people that I truly care about. Let me we're in a good place. I have good friends like all within somebody will say something like. Don't make me throat catching through the Internet. You know I'm pretty cool. It less somebody comments on the kids. Then I'm like really I don't know how pregnant women you cannot say this about one. Who's carrying a child? But I mean it is what it is and I have to kind of think like well on bothering somebody that much. I'm doing something right. Amen a man while I cannot lead to rewatch this episode everybody. The real housewives of Beverly Hills airs every Wednesday on Bravo. You've got to check out this episode and if you haven't seen episode one go to on demand check it out and if you're at home all in by Heady Mellencamp is unbelievable. I thank you Justin. I love you I love you too. I miss you. I can't wait to see you in real life. Can we have Margarita soon at all? I want you realize. I haven't even had like an official Margaritas anywhere since the baby. I WanNa get Provence wasted. You know what I missed that I need. I'm so dreading that episode and that was my best one last year I episode three is going to be pretty damn good for you because you were just witnessing the hot mess I love did it was literally you could hear in drop when the Dow okay I with wall new out of that. Dez table with that. Maybe like this award party. Bally's like hitting the table on the way up to come back here next week and we have to laugh about it. I honestly may have JOE RECAP. I'm I'm in wave. I play and wants my bad. Most subscription runs out into each. I'm going to go all in beret down. I'm just enjoying this wine a little too much for you in your Eddie. Oh my God have a good day bye real.

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Optometry Podcast: Dr. Aaron Neufeld Discusses OD on Finance, Stocks, and everything that you need to know about the CARES ACT.

Defocus Media

31:19 min | 1 year ago

Optometry Podcast: Dr. Aaron Neufeld Discusses OD on Finance, Stocks, and everything that you need to know about the CARES ACT.

"So these are lovers. We're talking the latest trends and taking kids to sit back. Relax and be focused well. Hello it's a Nudie thickest media podcasts. I'm Jennifer Lea and I'm here with Daryl Glover. How're you doing today? I'm trying my best to stay sane. Hopefully you are to Japan. You know I am you know. Actually I had help today From one of our colleagues Dr Danielle. Richardson did Yoga. For the first time. Well not my first time in a long time and it actually relaxed me. Like my body feels better mentally. I feel better than after that I walked around the neighborhoods actually filling. Okay well. I'm happy for you because I'm actually feeling rather stress part of it is because I know the topic. Whereabouts talk about yes. Yes nothing stresses me more than thinking about my money. I'm one of those people that like. I like my money where I can see it and I hold onto my hands. And that's like a terrible financial planning and everything because I don't like investing yet. I don't like gambling with it. I just want to hold it. But we're here with expert guests. Maybe can break me of my terrible way friends and family. We like to welcome. Dr Aaron Newfield. How're you doing today? Sir I'm doing well. How about you guys Well as you can tell I'm feeling great. Did Not so great but hey happy today right. You got some good information for us. No communist trauma vest well for those that. Oh No you if you could just give us a little bit of a background of WHO? You are where you went to school. How'd you get into Tom? Etry just break it down for us if you don't mind yeah. Yeah so I'm Aaron. Ooh Felt I'm originally from Fremont California. I went to Seo and Memphis Tennessee fraud. Tom etry school so moved up there and graduated in two thousand fifteen decided. I wanted to come back to California so about a private practice in two thousand sixteen in Los Altos California and kind of laid my roots down there or a multi doctor practice primary care office. It also focuses on medical optometry Thomas Tree specialty contact lenses and Boutique Optical and addition also is also the home to my other two business ventures number one being ody's on finance which is a web based finance company that focuses on optometry which. I co founded with my good friend debt. Really and I think we're GONNA talk a little bit more about that later. And secondly they I care which is a tech startup that I started with a few local. Engineers were aiming at revolutionizing optometry pre-testing through virtual reality. Well that's impressive. Well why don't we are going to spend a lot of time talking about ody's on finance because it is a huge service that you're doing for our profession but tell us a little bit more about the startup because that's fascinating. We were basically using virtual reality devices Recruited a few software engineers trying to put a lot of the pre-testing in those devices including visual field. Is obviously the biggest one. You can use a remote and you're inside of your immersed in a device but also different Pitas such as Stereo and color vision and and even visual acuity. We're hoping to launch a product shortly after the krona virus crisis We're open to watch beforehand within this whole thing happened in. Kinda threw a wrench in everything. So that's the plan for right now Definitely once we have something more to talk about a firm product. We'd love to get you back on and learn more about this because that's extremely exciting so we really want to dive deep into your website. Your resource ody's on finance. I came across a website. I don't know how long ago but I saw it. Actually your facebook page. I should say and let me read our just. I was amazed because there was a lot of great content. A lot of great dialogue. People are bringing great questions And you just see Mike. You're just a great resource It seems like you're well versed in finances For someone that graduated in what two thousand fifteen already paid off with one hundred and fifty thousand of their loans that I mean. That's pretty impressive man. Not many people could do that. Say that they've done that. How did you develop your love for finance in? Why did you actually develop these own finance? Yeah Yeah you know. Funny thing is When I got out of school I used to never think about finances. I grew with two parents that were in accounting and I just thought that was the most boring thing ever so I never want to think about money but one day I it just hit me. I think it was probably a couple weeks out of school when I got one of my first jobs. I was bouncing around a little bit with villains. Like you know most new grads do and I was working with this optometrist's that was eight years old and he was still work in his hobbling around. Is there only look use enjoying and stuff and I was talking with them? I asked him. Hey why are you still working? You know no offense sleep. Eighty and here's is Tommy. No Hey I lived in the moment my whole life never cared about my finances never saved you know. All his traveled always did this other stuff. And that's why I'm still here and that that kind of really to solidify under me. I'm like hey I really need to take control of my finances. A fight keep living this day to day life where? I'm not caring. I might end up like this. And that's not something I want to do. So basically took control of the finances promised myself to take care of my student loans in two years so that involve the plan so the plan was to work seven days a week did that for coastal year nearly drove me crazy but I'm kind of goal oriented person so that really stuck with that and just save close to ninety percent of my income and just throw it in the lounge investing and that passion I met Dr Dad Boo a little while later once again to square kind of bouncing around with a various fillon jobs and he also had that same passion had the same similar experience where he kinda just had that firelight under him to when he heard stories of people that just didn't save and so that's when we formed in said. Hey why don't we create a facebook group were about? Thomas can just talk about finance so we did. We kind of took the ODY's on Facebook Nam. And just you know changed a little bit caught on finance and kind of how the whole thing started. Let your brain a little bit because you were very aggressive about paying your loans off. Would you recommend to someone just coming out of school? Faced with a lot of financial debt is paying off loans priority. Number one or. Is there something else that they should be doing with their money? Advocate for is definitely paying off the loans. There's a variety of ways you can approach your lawns. You can refi and under certain lawn forgiveness programs. There's there's different things you can do. Depending on what trajectory take with your career but the important thing is is adds it student. Loan debt isn't good debt to have an for the most part when he come out of school as high interest. So you just want to knock out as much as possible and also is guaranteed in the sense that sure. You could take that money that you were to pay for your student loans and invest in something that you don't know what your return is going to be with you on. It's going to be that six percent or seven percent or whatever interests that is so sore advice for most young ODI is just getting out into the workforce is definitely. Try to pay off as much as you can. As quickly as you can look into refi options but also have a certain amount set towards investing. You want to start saving for retirement early because one of the biggest factors with retirement savings with investing is to start early time as the biggest factor for having that exponential growth. When you start investing another team mentioned earlier that I found fascinating was at first year. At least you were saving ninety percent of your income to pay towards loans. Do you have advice for people on after they do. Get me a couple of years out of school. Maybe they're close paying Dylan's or fully paid off what's comfortable goal to set for how much you're saving versus how much you're spending. Who has a good question? You know the ideal answer. The ody's on finance answer is around seventy five percent of your income. You WanNa Save. Obviously that's that's a little crazy for a lot of people and if you have family obligations that's that plays a big factor. Obviously if you have a mortgage or just all these different expenses that you kind of have to do that. Factors into it but honestly to try to save as much as you can try to write down a realistic goal for yourself and create a budget off of that. That's what we recommend. That's one of the big things that we kinda started the group with his creative budget. A whether you think you control you have control of your money in your mind or not. Just write down a budget and try to follow that every year. And there's a lot of good resources online a lot of good applications that linked to your bank accounts linked to your investment accounts. And it can kind of tell you whether you're tracking that budget or not but for most if you can obviously that seventy seventy five percent range is awesome but even going down to thirty to forty percent. That's still pretty good considering an average OTI salary. If you're investing that money you're going to be well prepared for retirement. You know in your late fifties early sixties with the markets as they are right now obviously were in the middle of a worldwide crisis if people have the monetary availability developed. This is a good time to invest. Or what are some of your personal takes on this? Yeah you know. This is a really interesting time so obviously we had the huge were basically in the bear market right now. He had a huge downturn few weeks ago. So you know. The common consensus is that Hey. Stocks are really cheap. And that's true in the sense if you were to compare those stocks to two months ago and we were at record highs for the Dow and the S&P five hundred yeah definitely lower but also consider. We're in it period. Heavy volatility right now. Most of America's out of the workforce in our economy is kind of hall to a complete stop. So that's something to consider too. We're GONNA see a lot of fluctuation so timing the market is really tough probably impossible for most individuals so what I would recommend at this point. If you're trying to get into investing just do something called dollar cost. Averaging and that's where you just average investments out survey one week or two weeks or whatever increment you WANNA do. Put a certain of amount of money into an investment that way you. Kind of mitigate your risk. Say you're not want something everything into one investment. And all of a sudden you see some market fluctuation in that all goes down or could go up but once again high risk there so. I recommend this kind of dollar cost averaging away. Yeah you see. That's the technique that I use. I love that I think that approaches safer simply because you're getting it on the way down and then also getting on a upset you making money. I personally also like to do long term investing so I'm a big guy looking for stocks that may have dividends. Would you take in regards to You know certain stocks or stocks with dividends or ETF and things of that nature. I mean you know this whole stock market finances. Its kind of foreign to a lot of optometrists delicious. Spend a little time on. Just the stock market in general. Yes yeah definitely. You know what I recommend for. The majority of optometrists don't really care about doing excessive research on stocks or ats or anything like that. Just find a good S. and P. Five Hundred Index Fund and a star cost average into that. That's the simplest thing to do. S five hundred. It has a pretty good return and they've done. Awada studies where they found that even professional investors can't beat s and p five hundred average so for about ninety percents of doctors out there. That's what I would recommend. That's just the simplest route. You don't have headaches not worrying about different things if you want to jump into stocks jumped into. Tf's or anything like that. That's perfectly fine. My biggest thing is just doing your research. So whatever company or whatever group of companies you choose to invest in your just look at everything about the company. Make sure it's a company you believe in and something that you invest in obviously you've got growth and dividends Dorados mentioned dividend stocks which are great because every couple weeks couple months. You're getting that little payment towards your stock and you can either collect that money or you can just invest in the stock. A growth is good if you're on a long-term If you're in your late twenties early thirties just starting to invest investing in a good tech stocks. That is going to have. Some growth is a great idea. Because you've got a long ways to go so even if there is some volatility fluctuation downward or upward doesn't really matter because you're in it for the long haul but if you're nearing if you kind of nearing that retirement age that's when he moved more towards dividends more towards bonds he kinda allocate that portfolio so. It's a little bit more on the safe side. And a little less volatile Gotcha and recently. I've seen a lot of chatter about four one KS. I mean what advice do you have for folks that have a 401k with the market tanking? What advice would you give to our colleagues out there? First thing out say right now and especially the last two weeks. I don't look at your 401k. Because that is just GonNa as is gonNA cause a headache of Qazi stress but if you have a 401k it just max it out. That's that's what we always recommend that that money. You got the tax advantage going for you. A lot of people don't even get the option of BEFO K. And especially if you've got some sort of employer match definitely take advantage of that every year. That's GONNA be a fantastic way to save up for retirement. Now do you believe in maxing out? Of course yes. The full one hundred percent but some companies once they hit a certain mark they do fifty percent. Would you still do that? Fifty percent or would you take that money invested into the market because he return may be greater? You know that's a good question. It depends on what kind of plans your 401k has if you've if you're just going to invest it into the market into a similar plan than I would say keep it in the UK but if you're looking to go into an individual stock that isn't allowed on that plan then out say in that case if that's something that you really WanNa do within go ahead after you've maxed out the one hundred percent 401k. One thing you mentioned at the top of the shed acronym field was that you are a private practice owner in California and many people when they're first couple of years especially out of school looking at the different San will I can make this guaranteed money working elsewhere verses spending my money maybe even taking out loans are going into debt again to buy a practice. Does that make financial sense for me and obviously you had made the decision to buy a practice. So can you walk us through how you came about that decision as your best financial option definitely will I fall? The job? Market in the bay area is a little bit different than the rest of the country. I'm sure you guys have heard it's a very saturated here so I remember moving back in two thousand fifteen in just finding a solid employee job was. That was a challenge at that. Time Sasha's Kinda bouncing around a little bit and really the difference between being employed in owning a practice in my opinion is comes down to how much you're willing to invest in yourself because when you buy a practice you're essentially investing in yourself. You're betting on yourself that you're GONNA you're GonNa make this practice work that you're gonNA run a deficiently and and it's GonNa be a great investment. That's essentially what you're Jones so I always tell people to kind of have a good look inside and see. Is this what you WANNA do? Is something that you want to pursue or are you comfortable just working seeing patients? Do you want something more? Do you want to be in control of your destiny? Either way is perfectly fine in my opinion but really to answering. That question is a big part of whether or not you want to invest that money into opening your own practice for me. It came down to it was a great location. Great circumstances surrounding buying the practice. So that's why I went into. That's I did it and it was always a goal of mine ever since I started talking to school to own a practice so for me it made sense so Aaron Your Business owner you own a practice you know. There's been a lot of discussion all across facebook lengthen the news all outlets about furloughs versus layoffs Let's talk about this a little bit more in detail. And what did you actually do in your office? So right now in our office. But we're currently doing is. We're running a skeleton crew. I kept everyone employed and that is something that was important to me. I just I dislike having that trust and that relationship with my employees. I wanted to sleep him out in the dust. Obviously unemployment is pretty good at this point because the government's offering Additional stimulus money. So I think it's six hundred. Six fifty on top of standard unemployment is but I really just wanted to keep everyone employed so that they can keep living their lives especially in the bay area. It's pretty expensive to live out here of. I don't want to put people on the street so at this point. Everyone's still working. We're still running the practice Obviously it's a lot leaner than it and a lot less patients than before but that's what we're currently doing. And how long do you think you'll be able to sustain this? I mean I've heard some similar minds like yours where folks like. Yeah I WANNA keep my team members on fulltime. I WANNA have that commitment to them. I want them to trust me. When I get out of this I WANNA be able to rock and roll my patients but some folks have big payrolls I mean. Is this something that you feel like. You'll be able to sustain over X. amount of months and if you do I mean what's the secret I mean the truly just saving a lot of money or are you investing some of the money that you have in your practice to make more money for you What's what's the game plan. Yeah yeah that's a that's a good question With us we're fortunate in that. Were small enough where I can keep everyone on and one of the big things we talk about on finances having an emergency fund s on a personal level but then a practice level you know caught cash reserves. But Yeah we always wanted to have about two to three months of cash reserves. Never thought I would ever have to use them like it was always just something. I kind of looked at in the rear view mirror. And I'm like Hey I've been out like glove four or five years now here. I am using the cash reserves. Practice what you preach where you live. Yeah Yeah so yeah. We're running off the cash reserves right now but yeah. I can understand for larger. I've got some colleagues here that you know work in practices where they have thirty employees and they've just had to furlough everyone because there's just no way you can have cash reserves available for that many people for this long of a time period and luckily on. I think we'll get to this a little bit later. The government has got some great programs Regarding payroll and getting people back on so Kalisz jump into it right now. Let's break it down the You know the PAYCHECK Protection Program Triple P. Let's talk about it if you don't mind breaking it down from top to bottom us about this and I know they changed something. I was just watching. Cnn maybe like twenty minutes before we got on this podcast in the seems like they're enhancing the program and talking about they're going to get the checks out or deposits within two weeks. So I mean the game is changing every single second. He had he allegany cut. That is very true because yeah we had a live event on Two days ago John so much has changed since then already so we have basically patient protection program it was part of the cares act and that stands for the Krona virus aid relief in Economic Security Act and basically that came off of a two trillion dollar stimulus package. That trump signed into effect. This the government realized. Everything's shut down in our considered non essential but since the government shut us down. They got to give us some sort of relief and so first part of the cares act is the Paycheck protection program triple P. P. Queudrue whatever you WANNA call it and yeah essentially It's providing a for big forgivable loan program to cover the cost of retaining your employees at full capacity in wages and that is eligible to any business that has five hundred employees or less and there's a few stipulations I won't go into too many of the details Look up online. But essentially what you're looking at is two point five times your average monthly payroll and it should cover you for about eight weeks. That's what the government's saying and we're just everyone's looking at the application right now. It is on finance people just posted like every ten minutes Asking if anyone's gotten through essentially you need to use a bank that is approved for SBA seven halons and there's a sample application that they put online and yet. We're just waiting for details for submission and all that. I think it goes live tomorrow for when I heard. Yeah and I've heard that some banks are participating and others still aren't sure what's going on That's the word I've been getting from a variety of colleagues Stud depending on what bank is. Yeah I would say if you're if you're looking for triple P. Definitely. Just keep calling her bank. I mean I'm sure they're very busy with everyone. Trying to apply for this but definitely just keep checking in and try to be one of the first of the table. Because I believe this bill. It is a finite amount of money. So you definitely want to be early as opposed to late. Yeah they definitely said that it was capped but they did also stress turn a news conference of Watch earlier that if they need more money they will put it in the economy so it seems like they know that right now of about it and they're really going to shoot that buddy out fairly quickly so I mean that's that's comforting especially for small business owners because the last thing you want is to build up this amazing practice and it goes under simply because something. That's out of your control exactly. The Afghan a- small businesses the backbone of America. They always say that in. It's so true is what happened. It's not just not Tommy. You think restaurants. He think of mom and pop stores dentists. Everything has been shut down so all all these small businesses get infected Ano- details are still being worked out as we speak as far as these programs go but many small practice owners did lay off their employees and my understanding of it with this Cares Act if you then sensitive was you have to keep your employees severe feel like there might be groups about brexit. They're scrambling to Rehire and we're GONNA take advantage of some of these on benefits. Yeah Yeah definitely once you look into the details of triple P. You'll see that you do need to have employees on staff but the good thing is you can bring them on an eight week period. That's defined you know you can set that date so you can try to rehire employees based off of that. So there's a variety of different details that go into that Definitely read up on that and all it entails on that but The I know a lot of people have been furloughed in case we need to bring everyone back so we can get P P but it's it's GonNa be interesting thing is. I've even heard some colleagues mentioned that you know the unemployment check. They're they're going to get is going to be more than they would. If they were working for the company so some people are just. GonNa stay out of work and collect that check and ride the wave. He had yeah. I've heard that too from a bunch of colleagues especially with the additional amount that they added unemployment and I've gone word that people that have applied for unemployment. I think Monday or Tuesday. This week have already gotten it. So government is working quickly with unemployment. Yeah heard if you're already in the system is going to be easy process Because they already have all your information in the direct deposit so it's not been so I've I've heard that as well but I didn't know anyone got there. I didn't know that someone's already seized their money. I mean that's phenomenal. Yeah it's been rather quick. Which is a good thing especially in a crisis like this. So let's talk a little bit more about you know where the where the money has to go. If you actually take this money from the government with the PAYCHECK Protection Program yes. Apparel COSTS. Obviously is the number one as wallet and an factored into the cost. Also the hell healthcare costs that you have your employees also. Any retirement plan contributions that all gets put into utilities so atrocity gas water your telephone or Internet Bill. Anything that's just kind of an overhead costs. It's always going to be there that applies as well and once again your rent. An if you're mortgaging Your Business. Most individuals own their building are going to have it in a separate. Llc but ones that are paying their mortgage through their practice the interests is something but not the principle is what I've heard and things that aren't eligible. Obviously a they do have a hundred thousand dollars a year cap for employees of looking at your associated optometrist. When factoring in just remember that everything's going to be capped at one hundred thousand years. Divide that by twelve. That gives you your monthly payment on the payroll for those individuals and also keep in mind if any of your employees are receiving some sick leave pay for FM l. or F. F. CRA. That's something to consider as well that's not eligible. I wanted to circle back. Oh something that she touched on. He was saying that the The mortgage should be separate. Llc. Why is that you know that's the most common method? That's what I do and that's pretty much recall. A Guy owns her business. They basically put in a separate. Llc and the idea is that you didn't rent to your practice so whether it be corporal or LLC or whatever you have for that entity essentially one business runs to the other and that health for a variety of tax reasons and it also protects you because if you're building isn't a separate LLC if something were to happen if you know there's some sort of lawsuit or anything like that at least the practice in the building are separated so the lawsuit can't go after everything all at once. It's kind of limited. So which is kind of the power of LLC. Now that's nice. I like that so definitely. It's it's illegal thing that works in favor of the honor. Now what's the deal with this other option? That's out there that I keep. I keep seeing float around economic injury. Disaster loan of that one actually is pretty interesting. So the Bisley is providing you emergency cash and it's basically a cash advance and there's no obligation to pay back and so that's up to ten thousand dollars and there is an easy way to apply for. It's on the SBA website and essentially. It's just a grant from the government. Now keep in mind if you do get the ideal I know pretty much. Everyone's applied for this plant. It's a simple application. Takes like five minutes They promised it in three days but obviously that hasn't happened because everyone applied on Monday in non seen it yet but I do believe that ten thousand will go against the amount that you get. Ppp in terms of forgivable loan. So just keep that in mind so say fifty thousand dollars in triple P. and you get the ten thousand in the idea got subtract that ten thousand in terms of what can be forgivable for the triple p. but the good thing is if you take out in any additional amount with triple p. That's not forgiven. I believe that interest rates only point five percent. And there's no early Ernie early payment penalties. So which is great. I mean there's no like that out there. Currently Scott Pack centers that are listening to the show. It sounds like what they need to be doing right now. If they haven't already apply for that he ideal to get the ten thousand. Get everything your ducks in a row by trying to find a bank locally that's handling the SBA loans so that you can participate in the P P P your employees and then What else should doctors be doing to prepare to hopefully restart patient care whether it's months from now or God forbid any longer but is there anything financially you'd recommend and preparation for things to restart your definitely and before I jump into that? One other thing is there is also an SPA debt relief program that's available and So far the government is saying that if you have an SBA loan whether you got it for your practice or your building or anything like that that they are covering all your loan payments as long as it's a seven day for the next six months and that includes principal interest and fees. So just one more thing to alert people to it. It's actually a really big deal but it gets overlooked because of the other ones so I wanna put that out there and and yeah for things to get your practice started definitely what I been doing and what I've talked to a few colleagues about talk to your vendors about holding bills that are due. I believe ody's on. Facebook has a good list of vendors that are being nice and pushing due dates back so definitely look at that also if you can defer any equipment leases financing payments. That's GONNA help you build up some cash flow and another thing is if you probably have the time at this point Look at some invoices and start auditing invoices from fram vendors. Contact ones vendors. Why Times can be mistakes or there can be credits that you've had for frames at your returned that never got apply to your account so just go line by line and see if there's anything that's missing because that can be some good Castro for you in a situation where there's not much cash available and a few other things that you can do for your practice Definitely telehealth has become a big topic. Patients still have emergency eyecare issues and a lot of them. Don't want to leave the house. Especially if they're at risk demographic where they have some co morbidity or other at a certain age so telehealth is something to adopt something that Medicare's relaxed their requirements on in terms of PIPPA. And all that so look into that and then also try to continue that cash flow so if you can have curbside ordering and pickups for either France or contacts or if he can do deliveries that just another way to at least generate some revenue for your practice. So you're not completely inundated with this whole economic shutdown. Will Aaron Lee greatly. Appreciate having you on the show I mean you. You really could everything on it. I mean I don't even know what to say. I'm speechless because like when I was reading through all this stuff online and also looking at news outlets you know it could be a little little overwhelming and exciting. What does it really mean? What does that me but I greatly appreciate the clarity. That she provided for us today If anybody's interested in learning more about ody's on finance or just you know advice in general. What's the best way for them to reach out to your contact you? Yeah Yeah So. Our website is on finance dot com. We've got a ton of resources on there as a definitely jumped on that and also the facebook group is where it all started. Sodas gone facebook type in ody's on finance and you'll be able to find the group and there's a couple of questions if you want to join basically we only let in optometrist or students so we. WanNa keep it pure in that sense so just answer those questions in. We'll be happy to have you happy to have joined the conversation and I just got to send a special thanks to my co founder. Dr Depp Who? He does a lot of work on finance I cannot take full. Credit froze on finance. A lot of it is his said. Just WanNa give him full credit and recently. Dr Joy family added her to our team. She's been fantastic. She wrote a couple of great articles on the Cares Act. So does Wanna give them props for that and want to give you guys props to I started listening a few months back and it's been fantastic so thank you know. Shot up back at you. Been Reading your website. Very avidly as diseases. Breaking in the articles are very thorough. They're very readable. And if you guys aren't active members of this community I highly highly recommend Because you filter suv a lot of the noise. A lot of the confusion and just get to the point articles explaining what we need to know. So thank you so much for you and your team on the hard work. You're putting in appreciate that. Okay Saran thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to hang out with me. Focus Media. Hope something resonated with you today please. Grads are podcast. Remember Twenty twenty around here. Funny we look for the singing next time.

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YOU HAVE TO SUCK FIRST. IT'S TIME TO START MESSY. #ReadyIsALie

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YOU HAVE TO SUCK FIRST. IT'S TIME TO START MESSY. #ReadyIsALie

"Everybody that you admire or look up to you has a day one every single woman that you look up to the online space. You're seeing her highlight reel. You think she's got the dream life you're not behind. You're exactly where you need to be in your life in your business but you do need to be willing to not look perfect. If you want to be a successful entrepreneur the biggest thing that will hold you back. Is the idea that it needs to look perfect before you begin or you need to be a certain type of expert. You need to have a certain type of knowledge to launch. The course launched the idea start the thing host the event ymer the heck it is. That is what is waiting to hold you back. He friend. What's up what's going on. Welcome to the show. I'm Angie I'm a corporate in college. Dropout turned seven figures serial entrepreneur and the creator of the pays to be brave conference coup founder of soul. Cd and my greet. His passion is helping you to be brave. If you want me secrets on all things marketing entrepeneurship cheesy really big dreams and making money. Doing what you love then sister urine right place but I wanNA talk about the importance of sucky before you are successful because so many of us are hiding behind perfectionism rate. Were hiding behind this idea. That needs to look perfect and needs to sound perfect. Needs to be perfect before we launched before we do something and knowing that you're not GonNa have the answers until you actually watch and you actually get into action so happy to suck you first draft. So what does this look like? This looks like you being willing to look a little stupid before. It's going to look as ing. I've worked with thousands of entrepreneurs now the number one thing I asked them before I ask about their knowledge or anything else because I don't give a shit about that. I asked about grit and their ability to look stupid. Because if you are willing to look stupid and you are willing to have a sucky first podcast episode or a kind of embarrassing I to video or MSF on instagram live. And you're like Oh my God. That was my first live. What did I say what did I do? You're willing to have a levers photos as ver- Taga for you're willing to have a sucky. I coaching call or coaching practice. Or you're willing to bomb your first sales call. That's how I know you're going to be successful. That's how I know was certainty that you are going to be successful. It's the perfectionist that I'm worried about. I am honestly worried about the women who got straight as in school. I'm very concerned about you. When it comes to entrepreneurship. Entrepreneurship is not like school at all. It's completely the opposite. You have to make the rules. You have to be willing to look stupid. Women who did Super Bowl in school sometimes are the ones who really have the biggest learning curve when it comes to owning your own business because it's a shit show compared to school. My biggest thing that I want to reinforce is really getting out of perfectionism. What is it that you think needs to look perfect or be perfect before you launch? And can you let goal of that need for something to look perfect before you press post? Can you let go of that need for the first podcast episode? You record the best podcast episode ever in order for you to press publish everybody that you admire or look up to. You has a day one every single woman that you look up to in the online space. You're seeing her highlight reel. You think she's got the Dream Life Susan with the six pack and the six kids making six figures you think she's got it all even though she's ten years ahead of you but you weren't there for those ten years so all you see is. Her current highlight reel. You have to realize that. She sucked in the beginning. Susan Sucked Susan sucked a little bit. But we don't see that rates so my challenge for you. This week is one on those people and go realize that their first episodes were not the best. Go wash their videos. Go ask them about their first. Few course launches how they did. If they're being honest they'll tell you that they weren't amazing. If you are waiting to look perfect you are waiting too long. Your first version is not supposed to be your best version. Your first course launch is not supposed to be your most successful one the first time you join a network marketing company. That's not when you make a million dollars overnight. The first physical products company. Then you start isn't going to be the one that Oh my God. We hit the Jackpot. That's not how it works. Mike and I started many companies before we had success with soul. Cbd and many of them did not go well. We lost a lot of money. We made a lot of mistakes right but people don't see a lot of that. It's my passion now to start sharing more of that on social on instagram. So you guys can see the non sexy stuff because all you're seeing on instagram sometimes is Susan with the six pack and the six kids and the husband making a Shitload of money and everything looks perfect. But she's not showing you that the first few courses she launched made goose egg dollars. She's not showing you that majority of her sales calls in the beginning of her business completely. Everybody said no and the only person that signed up was her grandma her mom taking a moment to be proud of yourself and realize that you're not behind. You're exactly where you need to be in your life your business but you do need to be willing to not look perfect because I promise you if you want to be a successful entrepreneur. The biggest thing that will hold you back is the idea that needs to look perfect before you begin or you need to be certain type of expert or you need to have a certain type of knowledge to launch. The course launched the idea start the thing host the event ymer the heck it is that is what is waiting to hold you back more than anything that is at you guys. If you can get over that you will be successful. Because you're willing to play. The game and entrepreneurship is truly again. You have to roll the dice in order to play the game. What I want you to do this week is one I want you to creep on people that you follow that you look up to you admire and realize that their first videos. Their first episodes their first books their first coaching course. Their first year network marketing was not sexy. I want you to find that stuff. You guys can go back and listen to my first few episodes on my podcast and they're not the best. I'm actually going to argue that. I wish I started even earlier. Because they're embarrassing but they're not embarrassing enough. I'm like dude. I should have started like ten years ago. What the heck so. That's what I'm thinking about now. I'm like what can I do now? That would be embarrassing but then my future self will be really really proud of me right so go ahead and listen to those kind of awkward you can hear how is matured and grown over the years. And I'm keeping them up dammit it because I want you to hear my awkward first episodes and there are some. I deleted that. I'm so sad I did and I'm going to try to find them and re post them because they were so bad that I was so embarrassed I was like. Oh my God no one can hear. This idea sounded like such a frigging Weirdo. When I was interviewing people because I didn't know how to interview people and they're so embarrassing. I deleted a few but I wonder if there's somewhere on my computer I need to find them so one creed on people and realize that even the most successful people that you follow have a ton of one-star reviews on Amazon. They have a ton of one star reviews for their podcast. They have a ton of hate. Comments probably moving on a time. They have trolls. They have their fair share of negative feedback on their instagram. They have their fair share of negative feedback on their videos or whatever it is and realizing that you just like them have to start from day. One you don't get to skip day one. We live in such a weird world where we want it now. We want to be perfect tomorrow. And we want to be a millionaire overnight. And it's just not the reality of entrepreneurship. It's just not reality and if someone is telling you what happened to them run away. She's in you need to calm down a little bit. Ready is a lie. It is the biggest lie that you've been told in your life. You are never going to be ready. You are never going to be ready to launch the business. You are never going to be ready for that first. Sales Call The you WanNa pee your pants and Poop your pants because you are terrified. The WHO are you to be launching this program. You are never going to be ready to join the network marketing company and build a team and learn how to recruit. You are never going to be ready for that first. Sales Page that you make. You're never going to be ready to start shopping and to put your very first product up there. There is nobody who started. They were ready okay and if you are waiting for someone to show up to your doorstep knock on your door and hand you have permission slip and tell you that you are now ready and worthy enough at an expert and pretty enough tall enough smart enough. Whatever enough to launch the idea or make money or successful. You'RE GONNA be waiting forever because nobody's GonNa come knocking on your door and everybody's waiting right. You don't become an expert in something by waiting until you're ready it is completely the opposite and I know that feels so counter-intuitive. It feels so crazy to you. Type A perfectionist women who did so well in school. You prepared for the test. You were ready. Let's go I'm going to be amazing. You've got an am the chemistry tests. But that's not how entrepreneurship works especially when it comes to the online space and digital marketing. That's just not how it works. Your first few emails are GonNa Suck your first. Few podcasts are going to suck and be embarrassing. Your first few course launches. I want no one to buy them. You know why why you know what it's like to get back up and to launch it again and get better get better. Developed Skill set fix that sales page. That's frigging hideous and get better for the only way you are going to get better is through action. The only way you are going to get better is through learning as you go. It's just by doing it longer. So this week and for the rest of your life I really want to reinforce his message of throwing away perfectionism throwing away imposter syndrome. Because you don't think your expert enough throwing away. The comparison itis of another woman online. Who's doing what you WANNA do? And she's got the perfect Blah Blah Blah and not realizing that she had a day one. She probably sucked for a while. She's probably not sharing about the first few years of entrepreneurship. I would argue that. The first one to three years of businesses are the hardest. My first three years of entrepreneurship were the worst years. Four and five. It got a little bit better because I started to get traction to the audience a little bit. I started to become comfortable and who I was and be more authentic and message in my recording but I truly believe that I am now the most confident I've ever been in business and that took ten years you guys so if you started your business a year or two ago and you're wondering why things are not all working while you're still in the awkward going paints you are still in the phase where you have acne and braces but you gotta show up the school anyway right and you're embarrassed a little bit but you gotta show up anyway. The first three years of entrepreneurship suck they just do. It's not sexy. It's not fun to say but they just you know I'm not saying in those three years you can't make money and have certain levels of success. I'm just saying that's when you're going to feel the most resistance and you're going to feel like you're running through mud you're gonNa feel like you crashed into away while. You were surfing. You're going to feel massive resistance and it's really. I believe the first one to three years of entrepreneurship or one to five are really when you are tested. Most about how bad do you want it? I worked three jobs while I was building this business in the beginning while I was blogging because blogging made me like sixty bucks a week. Real talk so I had to do things to make money to pay rent and to survive so I know what that's like to have to work around your schedule and I know what that's like to have to really be diligent about your time. Your energy in great things take time all transparency. Reminding myself that now. This is so crazy. Kind of embarrassing. Monopolizing sure with you guys. I am now stepping into the book. Space I'm writing my first book. This year radius ally is coming out in September and going through that book process. I have really heads. You drink some humble sauce. I've really had to have some humility around being newbie again and starting before I ready. Will the irony is the box culvert? He's alive but really starting again as a Nubian being like dude. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know if it's going to do well. I don't know so much but I know that I will never be able to stand on a stage one day or be interviewed and say yeah. I sold three million copies of a book unless I start and I start with the first one who knows if the first book going to do. Well maybe the fifth one will but I won't know until it right the first one you guys know what I mean. And this is the same thing with courses you have to have that healthy level of compassion for yourself and say listen if the first course I launched doesn't do amazing to make six figures it doesn't mean I suck it doesn't mean I'm not successful. It doesn't mean that I don't know what I'm doing it doesn't mean I'm not a smart person. It just means that really good things take time. They just need more experience. So I think having this emotional intelligence around things taking time and having patients and knowing that you're not to be the overnight success because that's complete bullshit is so healthy but that's so hard on instagram than so hard in this world where everything is so transactional and you're scrolling on instagram and easy. Everyone's highlight reel and everyone's perfect life right. This even applies to health and wellness as well. I know that maybe someone listening to this really wants to get healthier lose weight or get fit and knowing that that doesn't happen overnight. How many have you guys had been really hardcore into fitness? You guys know it takes time to get fit. You don't get a six pack overnight. So you're not gonNA make six figures overnight. That's just not the way it works so being really realistic about consistency and compassion for yourself and patients knowing that if you're going to apply that to your body apply to your business. I know a lot of fitness chicks. Watch and listen to me. It's the same thing and so having that healthy mindset when it comes to what it really takes to build something and nurture something and man is just like fitness. It really is some knowing that maybe your goal is to be healthier this year. Gosh give yourself compassion and know that you're not gonna be this ripped Shaman overnight like this is not the way it is right. Here's what I want to say to you. Be Willing to suck be willing to look stupid. Be Willing to embarrass yourself a little bit. I promise you will not die unless you're literally jumping out of airplane this weekend and that's what you're doing. You Will Not Die Ray. I think having that level of compassion and emotional intelligence is so so critical for entrepreneurship. So I'm cheering you on and I want to see you. Have those first drafts and not beating ourselves up when things. Don't go well the very first time we try them so many women right me and say. I just launched my course last week. My very first course and only one person signed up. I'm like awesome cool. Give her your best. Give her your all get an amazing testimonial and then launch it again. That's what I want you to do and knowing that that's the reality of building something beautiful so I want you to talk a little bit. Insert the EGGPLANT EMOJI right here. Okay the onset poops Hashtag beyond say poops realizing that even the women that you look up to or the men that you look to you weren't given anything special and they didn't have a secret that you don't have right. They were just willing to be more consistent. Let me be real with you friend. Starting podcast one of the smartest things I did for my brand and I want that for you. If you feel like you're stuck in the growth of your business and you don't know how to connect with your community and you feel like the woman that you want to speak to and serve. Is Lena podcasts. And you have to start a podcast and in five years you are going to thank me for pushing you to start this podcast and to take action because in five years you're GonNa wish that you would have launched the show so girlfriend that is you but you have a ton of questions when it comes to launching the show growing the show. How do you have a top ranked show all of these questions about podcasting and I felt like I wanted a resource to send you to that? I believed in that I knew could answer all these questions for you so when I saw that. Stephanie had the PODCAST team Bro University. A jumped inside. I creeped on it. I watched every single training and I was like. Oh my God. This is it this super in depth. This is exactly what my girls need. Because everyone wants to know how to launch grow and monetize a successful podcast. So I'm going to tell my girls about podcast pro university if you had to Angie Lee podcast course dot com. You'll see my number one recommended podcast course for you and I put ten bonus videos in there. All about recording your intro and your outgrow what to name your show how to your show to spotify and what artwork to create for your show every thing any question you have girlfriend. It is inside this course. It is a steel. Ps Don't stop. She needs to increase their prices soon. So dive in there before she does that. Ngo Lee podcast course. Dot Com to dive into her course. And you get all of my bonus trainings as well so any questions shoot neon and a few inside as women were so hard on ourselves with things. Don't go his plans right. How many of you guys recently have hasn't been happened in your business where it didn't go as planned or dreamed right away and you're so hard on yourself you're I suck. I'm not meant to do this. Who am I even try to do it again? What's the points? I just wasted money like. We're so hard on ourselves and we don't realize that beautiful things take time and this is all part your story. This is all part of your journey. It's all happening for you. And you're going to look back on these days and realize that this was part of the journey for you. This was part of you mature and in growing and falling on your face a little bit and I believe that you don't become resourceful and you don't build grit from perfection right. You need to know what it's like to fall on your face a little bit so knowing that if you're going to a really rough time right now on your business you're not alone. This time will pass enjoy as much as possible. Build your skills build your resilience and be kind to yourself. Enjoy the process as much as you can because when we're having fun that's when we can stay consistent so I think that one of my superpowers over the last ten years has been really keeping it as enjoyable as possible. I mean listen. I am not good at all shape when it comes to business organization all those things but I've really had to remind myself over the last ten years to enjoy the process every day because the journey is the game breath. Everyone's like waiting for the moment. But there is no one moment so enjoying it as much as you can and laughing at yourself a little bit when you mess up like. Oh that's funny. I did that or it's funny. I tried that. Okay all right. Let's get back up. I love you guys. I'm cheering you on and I know that. So many of you are in such a tough place right now in your business or you want to give up because it's becoming a little bit difficult but I really encourage you to dance with the resistance. A little bit to dance with the fear is a little bit and see this as such a gift. See this as really your time to step into who you are and to see how you handle the resistance and see how you handle business when things aren't going your way. An incredible entrepreneur isn't someone who only does well when the business is doing well. There's someone who can still keep things going and still keep the team going still stay flow when things aren't really doing so hot. Building Grit is so important. So you ladies telling me that things aren't going well on your business. At the beginning I feel like a mom and I'm like good. You get this gift day one especially if you just started like a year or two ago. I mean do that baby. That's a baby and entrepreneurship swim or swim. You're going to push through. I love that there is no safe guys swimmers swim. I want you guys to Miami. Something that you suck at something that you sucked at recently like hey. Angela launched a course. Don't once I got but it's okay because I'm GonNa keep going you guys Mike. I view course launches literally my mom and my best friend and I think my boyfriend at the time or the only people who signed up. That is so normal. That is okay. I needed to go through that and I'm still going through things now and I'm going to continue going through things as grow on this journey. You know I feel like I just got started now so I wouldn't change any of that and so again. This is why I get hundreds at the end of the week from women telling me. I'm so frustrated. I just started in the first year. I don't know what to do. Should I give up? I'M NOT MAKING MONEY. At my course. Didn't do well not building my network marketing team fast enough. My physical products. Not doing well and it just want to tell you that you cannot quit. I just want to tell you that these suck years will pass but you have to stay consistent and you have to be kind to yourself during that process. Corny Murray said my first launch flopped. So I gave it for free to get testers Ninja. Brilliant so smart you guys. If you're on a sales call bombs like it does so bad and you're like Oh my God guess what you can learn from that sales call and you can use that information to create more contents and then give better. It's like sports. You've got to go to practice okay. So if you bomb a sales call cool take notes do better on the next one and then in fifty sales calls you're going to be a pro okay but you have to go through those first sucky sales calls and you gotTa know before you get to hear. Yes you know what I'm saying so I love according said about. It didn't do well but you know what let's get some testers. Let's figure out a way to get resourceful going back to that word that I love for entrepreneurship. Let's get resourceful. Let's find a way to still make it happen. Courtney says I'm on your three and I'm so glad I stuck it out. It gets better exactly you guys. I really think that the first one to three years of business sometimes the first five are truly the hardest so of you can suck it up a little bit and build some great builds resilience and be willing to go through those uncomfortable awkward sucky versus years. You'll make it. You'll be good. You just gotTa push through. You gotta get up the hill a little bit. You know what I'm saying. Sydney says wow I feel so validated and feeling so normal had my first year of being self employed. And it's been terrible. I thought it was me going to embrace the suck now pushing through. That is the most beautiful thing I've heard on this life. There we go you guys. Sydney is realizing that it's completely normal. It's actually more normal than you think and again. I would be very surprised if in your first year you were like first year just started just making a range customers only God customers everywhere. I just can't even keep a hold of the money. It's just everything is just happening perfectly. I've had no mistakes. I haven't had to learn anything. Like that would be weird. I would be like what and it would take away from the coolest part of entrepreneurship which is growing right. It's just growing. It's just getting better and yeah I would be concerned if it was just all perfect. I'd be very concerned but it's almost like I'm sure you moms can relate to this. I'm sure so many of you who have raised some incredible children. Who are these little tough cookies? I'm sure you MOMS agree that one of the greatest things you can do for your children is to let them fall and to let them make mistakes in to let them mess up right because if you take that away from them you're taking away growth and that is so necessary to get better so I believe that it's the exact same entrepreneurship. This is basically a kid. I has been raising for the last ten years I have not given up on it. I won't give up on it. There's been times where I'm like. I'm out you suck. You're annoying you know but but it's still show up the next day and knowing that. I've had to have so much compassion for the Times where it's not as fun in its sake. So you've legitimate on since twenty eleven consistently Courtney have I. How did you creep today? Courtney peacock a creep two weeks ago. I love it. You needed this today. Yes Fabiana says quitting my job in a few weeks. This is great but I'm going balls to the wall with it. We're going for consistency over. Perfection Yes yes. Yes and more yes. Consistency over perfection. Augustino. And you're such an amazing mom. I think mom should have so much more grace for themselves and realized it does take a little bit longer to build a business when you're a mom because you're having to take care of something else that is more important than the business so knowing that your time is limited. I think women are so hard on themselves moms especially because they want it tomorrow but it takes time. Mama and ties says thanks for bringing the heat tonight. I'm a single mom and in year three of working from home I needed this reminder that it's not supposed to be easy it's supposed to be hard sometimes. Yes yes. There is nothing wrong with you if you are in your first few years of business or you're going through a season where Shit's hitting the fan. We live in this glamorized entrepreneurship world on social media. Where everyone's got their jets and they're perfect life and blog all this money and all these Brian and everything's fine but you don't see the reality of people going through tough times and still having to build that resilience that Grit and you guys consistency over. Perfection just keep showing up. Keep showing up even if. It's a little bit each day that you get done. Keep showing up but I promise you it will pay off. This reminds me of the book. The cow pound effect by deer and Hardy. The compound effect is really really phenomenal. And it reminds you that your choices every day. Truly add up your little tiny choices. Add Up to become a successful life or a successful business right and he talks about how the little micro choices that we make every day in our relationship or our business really create this incredible life definitely go. Read both of you guys. Haven't it's so cool. Jennifer Lea alday says the only failure is giving up. Everything else is learning experience and part of the journey. I know I'll look back while clinking champagne glasses on a beach. Yup you absolutely well and there is no failure guys. There's just lessons if you see it like that. You can stay consistent because you have compassion for yourself and you realize there's really no failure other than giving up brody says show up for that one person watching like you will for the thousands in the future. Yes yes and yes some more show up for those five people until ten and then twenty and thirty and then forty and it just keeps growing but you have to be willing to be consistent. I hope you loved this. If so let me know tag. Gee this pink.

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FROZEN 2 - Double Toasted Audio Review

Double Toasted

40:10 min | 1 year ago

FROZEN 2 - Double Toasted Audio Review

"Martin can you believe it's been six years years six years since the first frozen that makes sense. Yeah man and you're thinking about about what took them so long six years a long time man you know because when you when you let them much time pass all these little girls girls out there that there are older that love that love frozen they just about to be women now. Yeah now the into in the boys into social media media all this kid stuff you know what well what what was Disney doing way too long and didn't know exactly what they're doing. They went on a new crop the way no parents there with a millennial to keep having sex spit out some new babies. They know exactly what they're doing. That's what took them six years because they need new six-year-olds fresh ones to do this. And you would think also given the six years of not only just a way for a new crop of kiss to exploit is also we want to do this right now. You would think after six years. Here's that's plenty of time to sit down. Produce right will. Yeah because with that first one that caught lighting a bottle they should in the first one. Hey listen I first one. I like a little girls but you know what appealed to the little girl in me. Take you know I I liked the first one man I I love it. Yeah it was really a surprise to me how good the movie was and knowing that we both enjoyed the first one Jamaica even more confident maybe even excited to know that the original team behind it is back. Yeah Jennifer Lea was other do Chris. Buck Chris. But don't give he's backed Chris. Buck Daloa stitch. I don't know I'll trust your Matt I'm asking. All I know is another movie. I like. He did good for him. So all I'm saying is six years. They said they said you know what would all this time almost a decade. We're going to make the best frozen sequel ever six years. We can top what we did the first time. Yeah said begging you sit back as big as I was. You know there's GonNa be a sequel and plus it brought up so much there's so much material to mine and places to go plus the whole theory that this is connected to Tarzan get always play off of that. What Oh yeah you never heard that? No ooh yeah. There's a whole there's a whole theory about how frozen is connected. Tarzan and possibly some other move okay. Wendy's busby there is but when he plays out You guys and these theories what would you. Oh Shit okay. Aw I mean I'm not saying yes but oh possibly and you know what and they also say that one need girls she even induce me. That's that's right. Yeah also they say you know what that's another thing said the little girls love frozen and we will teach them how to be listening. Oh so much look forward always to with this sequel Tarzan lesbianism. Oh May I have so much time to throw everything into this new movie frozen to tell you were. Let's go ahead and take a look at the sequel in the form. This trailer right here and then we'll be back to let you know how absolutely great this movie. How awesome awesome? It is because dammit they had in the world and we've been waiting for it and they've delivered. Let's take look far away as North as we can go once stood an enchanted forest. You see an enchanted forest. I guess it was a magical place but something went wrong since then no one can get in or out. That was epic. Do not you. You'll always have me Else seemed weird to you. She seems like Elsa. There's voice voice. What what does that need? The kingdom dot safe find. Who is calling to you? They may have answers. I'm going with you ANA now excuse me I climbed to North Mountain survived a frozen heart. 'em saved you from my ex-boyfriend so you know I'm coming normal. Where are we in the forest most pilot for compulsory Ronin? The white girl scared me. Magic cow can't follow me into fire. The don't run INS. He's have fire. Magic luring without you. She made news us how to breath Aaron at all costs leaving you more than anyone or any quick question putting the mortal danger going to be a regular lenton. If you look at that trailer right there shit even the boys are looking at this and say man. I gotTA wash this this. This has you. We've gone beyond this. The cool thing about living his age and empower when we gone beyond just the helpless princess out there you know. They don't even boys like now they save the world from from. If you watch this movie saving the world from from a lot of magic mysticism I mean you look at this. Ice Does rock giants in this. Yo Yes yeah I mean there's armies of water horses as a heavy metal water horse in this. I mean the thing that's going with this movie here is that there's a lot more magic. Can Mysticism happening. You know in the stakes are higher. Now you know Anna's about to be Queen Anna who's voiced by Kristen Bell and is about to be Queen Women who else has got a hold her ex-man mutant power she in about to destroy the world sisters that getting along again. You know everything seems like is right except now something's going on with nate this this force of nature the nature has had on a balance. Yeah Nature's out of Balance L.. Starting to lose her she's hearing voices it'd be like Oh shit and we know what happens when you'll craziest starts to lose your mind you start to break. Things destroyed things. Yeah they they have their own climate crisis. Yeah and they run across a mysterious miss that contained secrets of the past little. Oh capsule in time that let them know that they history is not what it used to be. Oh boy that's still did a lot of things going on but you know for the most part for a lot of people just saying yeah but we'll my little girl enjoyed and of course she's a little girl get see women do stuff. Yeah you know sitting and we're really pretty dress and costume changes going on here and everything. Yeah I've got mad of course question. That's the stupidest questions of course. What's your little girl's going like this? which makes us extremely hard to review because the movie is meant a little girls who will will enjoy this N.? What paired what even decent adult doesn't like to see a little girl full of joy full of happiness and now a grown man used to these two grown as black men have now come up here and and if we say anything bad about this movie at all we instant villains which to that I had to save him Buha? Yeah 'cause 'cause I'm about to criticize the shit out this movie now I tell you right now that I'm a huge fan of the I watched it a few times. Why should we with my kids? We loved it. I didn't like God damn thing about this movie. Really big ability than me. Sorry an Martin and like everything I loved about the first one is just gone that they spent six years going. I don't know what to do. y'All got down the last year and went okay. Listen let's just have some stuff happened. Let's just getting going and see what happens. I don't y'all y'all six six years. Yeah what the Hell we are doing this whole time. We are sitting on your hands for five and a half years and opening. Oh Shit fuck with do weird. I don't know put some fucking giants in there. I don't know man. Let me tell you something I yes I don't even want to borrow. You WanNA play around. I mean I got some good things to say about it but let me just go ahead and just let me. Just say the best. 'CAUSE y'all GonNa look at me like bill and anyway okay so let me just go ahead and jump into it and get that out the way because like you Marne now. I would say that the first frozen. I don't love it as much as you do. Not One of my favorites. It's not one of my go-to career watch ability but I do enjoy it man. You know the great songs and is the jokes. The jokes funny people don't even like Olaf I'm cool all office. Cool with me the light off all of those characters when I came on like he's going to be annoying and you just fall in love with it. Yeah and when you watch this it's again. Another refreshing take on Disney princesses here not just princesses. Who are on a quest is to help out the man this time because you know equal opportunity all their no? It's true empowered. Yeah to the point where they have mutant powers you. You know this is like I say it's a re- is just a nice refreshing take on Disney princesses. Well we got here frozen to not so refreshing no not at all if it felt if feels warmed over and stolen from pieces stolen from other movies and a key the let you know how little they were inspired with. This is how most of the characters don't have anything to do. No they really pissed off with such a big part of the first movie. He's got nothing to do. They have him disappear disappear for awhile and do have a song with some kind of heavy metal video from the eighties montage which seemed like a joke at first and then the log it went on I was like I don't think they're joking. Okay well I'll tell you that the thing with the movie for me. Is that this book for four film. That has six years a lot of a a lot of money behind it and in a lot of epic anticipation marketing behind it. I mean right now they. They put up frozen decorations before they did Christmas. Christmas decorations frozen toys have been in the in the in the stores for a month. I've been out for a month now. I mean this thing is come with a lot of marketing marketing and fanfare and excitement in when it finally gets if feels like a one of the one of those Disney director video. Sequels does. Because you tell that they threw something together because they you know you could tell it through because they didn't want to spend a whole lot of money but could still cash in on the name and and everyone could just 'cause wouldn't with those straight to those straight to video movies that's the thing about it you know we'd be lacking a little bit in store you could tell that people rush you could tell that even some the quality and the production wasn't that high but when his also done people can sit back and say hey you know what is direct video. Yeah yeah this shit ain't going to video on the big screen you know this. This is because the thing is no matter what they did with this this again y took st took six months to come up with what we got right now but they knew that no matter what they did as long as they put it out there. They're gonNA MAKE GONNA make make money. It's almost as if it was designed for direct to video and I said well what what what what what what are you doing. No no this is one of our top properties. You rented that Shit again on real. Yeah you know what this is this because this really was saying there is not a a force as crazy as much stuff as they're doing they nothing going on in when you look at how this is as a sequel. The the way I was explaining. It's the anti toy story toy story out there. These toys these toys that they've done four movies for doc films everyone. Bonnie made a friend in class. Oh she's already making friends no no she literally made a new friend. I want you to me forking forty somehow someway. You know as much as we read it that that that fourth one. These toys have gone beyond a trilogy. John May four films and each these damn toys for movies and they always put story I and they aboard the spending like it's a property that is just so that it's just there to sell toys tickets and they're all in their toys the guy toys and they even they're it not there to sell what they are. Yeah they're meant to be sold marketing right yet. Somehow they told more of a store that a lot of these sequels out there you know now I don't know maybe more toys than ice. I you know. I don't know I feel like there was so much that could have been done but here they first off they ret conned the origin saying like. Oh there's this whole secret that depends and tell you about. It's like we spent a lot of time with them. They could've mentioned some of this. I feel like you just you just came up with this but I don't know if you unnoticed this but this story all you need it for this was Elsa everybody else everybody else. Ana Olaf the the trolls. The people of that town also purpose had nothing to do with what was going on. They just they just pop up to chime in and then Kinda disappeared in what it feels like again. This feels so much like a product that is just meant to be sold to push toys into push soundtrack. Because when you you look at it and and listen to it a lot of this is just you know the story here is the characters are just meant to be busy until the next strong into the next song comes out song. Yeah are there stretching thin. Are this other stretching out what is already very thin subplots not even platinum not not so plot plots you you can only you can only watch a A KRISTOF try to propose to Anna so long. You know that that is that is dragged out. This movie is almost two hours and they ain't even got an hour's worth of material here. Are you know you. You can only stretch out so long. How Many Times Elsa hears voices which I got to tell you the whole time that she was hearing voices? I kept hearing led Zeppelin's stairway to heaven. Did you hear this if you listen. If you go listen to led Zeppelin's stairway they haven't listen to this. I'll be like bitch payoffs except the blues band. They Stole Yeah Yeah they pay it in full rip. Yeah there's there's way aide too much happening in in his movie and there's nothing happening at the same time it's so much and it's all nothing with with ANA like Her only role in this is to go elsa. Stop leaving me. You can't do this without offering in the first movie you on a she. She's she's very much in love with the sister. Who's kind of blowing off but you get that but here is not only did I not feel sorry so I for getting annoyed with her? I was like damn you are clingy. Leave your sister alone get your own life bitch down the Geez relieving it just constantly. I mean you can't do that you can't leave me. You can't keep running out there. You gotTa make could go to something up and leave me alone. I you know what see that. That's the way I'm Kinda opposite of you because With so much happened in the movie. There's there's the taken away from the from our main characters. You know what I know. This is just me maybe again. I'm going in and doing the thing where I'm writing my own movie here but I just felt like there was an opportunity especially we have a sequel. What a sequel we wanted? Yes we want to see. This world developed even more but we also want to see some progression in development of the main characters themselves. Yes and with this. There's no that doesn't seem to be a lot of care. Banishment for Anna and Elsa and that's too bad because I really do like Anna Anna Elsa sure. I don't even this movie. Because in this film when Anna Elsa you know they get together for being princesses mayor real. They are real down to Earth. They're like the. I like the movie when it stopped stopped. It was kind of them because they they they for me. You know that that was the real progression. The movie seeing that relationship even go further cause because for being princesses real cool to hang with a lot of exposition and crazy shit going on. I Lyon Grizzly bear a monster out mayor angry odds on status mistake if your life. We didn't even kiss you it. We all kind of got it. Okay all of Europe okay. So much easier now that I can read the lightning round boys against girls. I'm ready. I'm ready go Unicorn. Ice Cream Castle oaken. Oh Elsa get to range you know what I wish the whole movie. They were planning to raise. But that's the first ten minutes that's what I'm saying is that there's little chance of things going on and what went ain't doing shit actually have more fun with doing actually trying to tell this locale story up here and they play cards and board games the whole mood. I'd be good with that man. All he did was played cards and board games. Well here's the movie we were GONNA do. Oh yeah it back to that I. I'll stick with thing play monopoly all two hours. I don't care because they introduce it it to me is kind of a a a No win and again. I know that a lot of girls don't like there's not going to matter for them but for me just looking at what they had before in the strong care does a story that they had but this is is kind of pushing a pool going on in a really are fighting each other. You Have Anna. Elsa also played by Medina humming. Wasn't that AH deny a Dell disease I Dina Manzo Zil. You gotTA deal. Who's playing Elson? Also I said you know. Kristen Bell is Anna and Kristian Bell. Kristen bill a Kristen Christian built Ford for. That'd be something well. Kristen better changes so much as well as his new form. But you know watching them. They can't really get a lot of development for their characters because of all of the other new characters that they introduce so with these characters we already know and WanNa see more the development. I don't know how we got. These new characters introduced. And that's fine but you don't really get a chance to know them that well you know behind this the dismissed and it's kind of a cool concept up behind his missed from Anna's kingdom and analysis kingdom there's something going on with this this force of nature whereas has a little bubble well in time so they had this try that they actually tried to help out by giving them certain parts of Of Magic in nature to help develop and then you have the old guard that got trapped with them. The actually the old guard starts reveals certain secrets about the Kingdom that that tells the Anna Elsa that yeah you're history is not as pure as you think it is. It's a great concept to have and I liked the actors that they have plans some of these new characters that we've seen Sterling K.. Brown was on a roll right now. Who deserves to be pretty much a very much alias? Actor plays Lieutenant. Matt Mattis would love to know more about him but yet but yet you know they drop hints here and there but you know there's they don't have enough time to follow through all of the hints that they drop about his hours they don't have enough time bullish and you know why because they too busy sang and trying to get songs Well they're trying to get trying to get more songs out and also with Elsa and the figuring out the secrets of what's going on. They start changing her power set and giving her all kinds of stuff she can do some yeah some of it. That's just pure magic. That's it does dais X.. It's like well we need some way for you to just figure this stuff out. Show the audience so now you can do this. How about that? Yeah and you know the. The movie has a great premise. They is a great premise. Say that they could have developed if they actually kinda focused more on that. There's a story Orien- here and I'm not going to give too much away but there is a theme of of of of colonialism. Yeah and there is a theme of of history writing itself history being rewritten by the winners. When it's actually again not as pure as as it has has been presented? It's kind of like the present like like like us about Thanksgiving now. Yeah I thought man this could have been really cool and while they're in the funny thing is is along with that premise. While they're trying to figure out because they feel like they just stumbled upon Net and when they stumble upon the also actually they. They actually have a bill in in the movie a villain who is actually crucial to the plot but is nothing but an afterthought Phil right and the whole reveal the villain which I I mean. If you're an adult you can kind of guess what's coming up but the reveal is like oh well that characters not really I have no attachment to this or this person or or anything going on. Yeah what does plot about colonialism in rewriting history. It's almost like they stumbled upon. It is almost like that while they were right. I'm like Oh shit but this is cool and you're like no we gotta get this out but wait times. He did other stuff so now. When you throw that out and you don't develop that all of a sudden they had this villain that was probably gonNA play a bigger role and I'm not gonNa tell you the billionaires and believe me if you blink you know either the villain in here is an afterthought in a back story and this there's so much opportunity that could have been mined from this that you trade it off for other things in those days you actually? You could see where they traded off marketing for actual store development. Yeah you now everything and hear everything in here feels very calculated. When you go into it you know when you can tell by certain things that they've done because they've added they doubled down on some things if you like all off whether you're in luck because of the whole all often here and don't think talking trashing is Olaf funny enough? As a side character cute mascot meant to sell stuff toys Olaf offers actually one of the one of the characters from the original that gets the most character development that actually you see his his personality his backstory get a little what bands. There's some of the human beings they're enjoying your new permafrost. Just living the dream on how I wish this could last forever and yet changed mock success with her beauty. Forgive me maturity is making me poetic. Tell me you're older and thus knowing do you ever worry about the notion that nothing is permanent. Now you I. I can't wait until I'm ancient like you so I don't have to worry about important thing you know now would be. That would be cool if he just bust out in song as well. You know I love love me and Olaf a cool. I can hang all day except when you put them into the movie that nobody wants to see she thing I loved him so much with the first one. And maybe maybe we do get more ornoff. But it's not quality na it's it's a lot of them throw him in randomly for for Gags or song or song but he doesn't. I have like a driving story. Certainly not one that's Germane to the plot. No here's Karen gets hints of like developing and growing. You know like you said he's he's he's starting to learn another thing that will really take advantage of because it could have been. They could've explored that angle more. Also the songs man you no you can tell that they are doing their best to it particularly once on. They're trying to find the next. Let it go. That was one of my biggest letdowns with this. was how in the first one you had the songs Do you want to build a snowman. Let it go and Olaf Song in summer. Great songs memorable songs wrong in here. Not only were these songs not memorable but else's too big numbers but just variations of let it go that that's the thing with the like into beyond is one of the songs and I didn't. I didn't think that it was a bad song. But at the same time like you know I heard it when it was let it go. They were who who's mentioned that she's thinking about down the road and and put some heavy metal crown. Maybe axl rose. You know it's like adult. I don't think it's a bad song and a couple of songs that I like. But besides this one which is Kinda catchy when you hear some of the others while you might like the monotony forgettable at least for me. I found them all forgettable. The only the only stuck in my head that that note she keeps hitting. Yeah God damn girl show off the you can tell you know that Disney is trying to cash in When they start throwing in characters have no meaning to the story at? Aw I mean listen for all the jokes office cracking. At least he's doing something for the story they got in this. They gotTA fucking Pokemon Lizard. That has nothing thing to do with the story. Yeah Oh he's only there because he's got bit cute is he makes a great plush. That's the only reason why only reason why I mean he is nice they saw this little thing darting around and stuff like Oh shit. That's one of the things causes evil magic and it's like Nah. I'm causing money. It's not really that's what we were in following through this whole movie and once that Lizard is introduced. You don't unnecessary okay. He's GonNa play a big role in the no. He's not you know I could talk. Talk about how this is so much of a cash. Grab by the studio which it is man. I mean really six years I don. I don't know what you're doing all this this time but I'm not going to go in and talk about the people that actually went in and did a lot of work on this film that should be credited in. There's there's some things that I do like. I'm I'm not hating on the movie. I'm disappointed because of what it has to follow up which is always aim to to go bigger better with a sequel. I know a lot of people. Don't don't I mean what a world of my in I know. That's not the case a lot of times but with frozen I thought you know. Maybe I've watched toy story way too much. You know. Maybe I've seen Disney do some really great sequels than I thought. This would be the say. What frozen I? This is another one of those cases where the sequel is exactly that disappointing movie that you were surprised. This is the first movie wasn't because look at the at the at the commercials for for frozen when the first when he came out you figure like all right. It'll be cute thing for girls and magic in all these sell toys and it's like oh they got something here and they come back with this one and you're like Oh yeah like anybody I tell no that first frozen is good good. They've seen this and go. Are you sure I'm telling you man for real if you if you want to check out the first one. I know you won't but if you were you'll see what I'm uh-huh yeah you know I yeah. TJ Just came into the rules on man. Fuck frozen I'm like why are you you hear. I didn't make the movie. What's wrong with you but I do look at things that they've done here and I don't think all of it was a cash? Ask Grab on every front every angle. There's always somebody working like hey my reputations on the line or I believe in the studio itself I mean the studio put something out. It's you for me is the script that is what's wrong here are thing that is not working everything else. I do like effort. That's been put into to this. You know when I look at this like I said that my disappointment with a Ellison Anna not being more developed is because I liked him as sisters I liked it the bonds strong. I like how they hug each other and conference each other. This seems where they're in bed together and they feel like they feel like a real siblings talking to each other and I wish that I could've seen more of that in the movie instead of being distracted by all these other things that don't matter on by just things gotta just there again to just be busy until the next song. The next bit of action. the animation in this animation is beautiful in this. I think automation is incredible. And I'm watching this and it's another disappointing thing. Why you you? You don't get a better story because the visuals. They had a great story and combined. Line with these visuals. You would have had something amazing like those scenes were else's running across water you know. And and I like the Pastel forest design but that thing when she was running across water and she picked up a big a water horse. And I'll just like God Dan. That's amazing that was actually wile moment for me and I wished again. The story could have captured the beauty of the artwork in art design. Here I like I said I even the forest I liked the forest designs the nature designs and the first one is they doubled down on this time as far as the design for that I like things like the giants. I wish I knew what the fuck they were there. Yeah they they they. They're for one. Reason does one reason and it was like. Wow you know that you could have done that with anything else. While these things things play off the the the elements and yet they they don't do much with them and I mean character development. I mean just make given them more of a presence off. Aw Yeah I'd like I said that's all story development lacking here. You know one of the things that like here and I know you didn't like but they're parts the movie that actually that actually made me laugh their parts of the movie. I thought all right. You know what this is where it's capturing the spirit of the first frozen. The movie sometimes mixed fun of itself. There's a part where OLAF comes in. I thought it was funny. How he kind of just how he He went in and just recapped the original frozen force in the way he recapped and I thought that was a funny scene because he went through the whole thing like the tragedy and everything and it and it was. It was something. Where are you thought that that was if that was something where it's a little bit of self aware humor for a movie that doesn't have any awareness and the rest of Kristoff love? Chris stop has a moment where he's these these singing a pretty sad song and it's almost like okay. We know you ain't got none with this and they turned into a eighties rock ballot and I actually thought that that was pretty funny because even film like eighties rock ballot and I thought okay you know their moments in here where those are the bright spots that I wish wish reflected the rest of the film and actually getting genuine laughs from this. You know I'd even some of the dialogue between the characters. I really enjoyed. I wish shot could've had more compensation but you give them five minutes in that band starts kicking up in the back in is like Shit all right here we go another saw yet. Yeah yeah it is Kinda musical. Where when they start to send you like? Aw No no no no no no no yes I mean is it. The songs have been better. But you know given the pattern pattern of the songs that we have is the way to get Crowbar in. Yeah Yeah I mean this. This is a this is more of a musical. I believe in even the last one because I feel like they have a biggest soundtrack shot. I don't know maybe the same amount of music but it just feels like it does doesn't have a national a natural progression to it but I don't really don't hate the movie like I said there's things in there that I saw. Aw that I actually. Jimmy laughed at and things that are really was in of and the only thing that makes you just bitter about that. Is that well well. Why wasn't that expanded to the rest of the film? But I mean it's it's really is something where look I like. I said Man I. I know that kids are going to go see this. It doesn't matter what we say. It doesn't matter what we do. This is not listen. This is not even a review. You okay this is what we've been doing this whole time. It's just been playing a game of. Let's be honest you know. Let's be. Let's be honest. You've listened Disney. You'll get your money. You're going to get these girls to come out and see this. You won't be able to pimp out these new crop of kids for this and that's understood in in the meantime for my time. Just let me talk a little shit hit then and then we'll be fine and I've done that and with that I I look at this and I give it I give it a high rental. I don't I don't say I mean disappointing. Yes but when parents take their kids to see it and they sit down and see how much kids having fun. Yeah you know. It's not terrible enough to be angry at the film. was that terrible enough to take it away from the kids that like it is just a disappointment. That is not better but as far as the crowd that has four. They have a great time so for that I give it a high rental and the art like I said the artwork in this you you can see what the least their efforts put into the rest of the film even at the script is lacking Yes for for sure. The are the artists and the animators didn't half ass. Is it just the scriptwriters the you know. Whoever came up with conceptually did I I? I felt bored through its way generic and predictable and and sadly so in as much as they had so much to work with. And you're right about some of those parts being funny or enjoyable but they're just little pieces that are surrounded by so much that is woefully disappointing into the point that they almost feel like they belong to different movie. Like you could take those out of this movie and the story is not affected by. It's it's like little asides and and that's the best part movie shouldn't be the asides Another reason I have a dimmer view of this is that it made me dislike characters that I liked before I just buy them because it had nothing else to do. They had nothing for those characters to do. So all the all they did do was just focused on the things that were kinda little negative about their personalities things that would quirky before a sudden like man. This is really a knowing that you won't stop doing this Short look look at all they want and that's fine. And then when they give their review they can give it the full price and make their parents go. See it several times me personally. I was just wanting adding this to be over once. I realized it wasn't what it was going to do. And how even the songs couldn't wake me up or or give me some some joy it's it's A. It's a low rental for me and people aren't list visit Disney sit. I hate to say that because like I said I I. It's not like I saw. ooh secret of frozen looking forward to it was like I really liked that first one and if they can do something close to that I'll be fine and it was not I ain't even trying to be manage Disney business. I get you look. You're GONNA pimp these kids out. That's the game but I don't expect me to praise you. Yeah but come on. Let's quit bullshit you you know what you did you design the thing is I heard from some Older people or critics who who liked it but their comment was always as well. I didn't like the first one and it seemed just as maybe I like this a little better than that. I don't know go ahead. I don't know what to tell you. All I know is I I. I'm mad at you but I know you boosted you know. Yeah Yeah you you know going. y'All too busy buying Fox. It's too busy working on star wars and then y'all just pick dish though we gotta get frozen secret. Yeah we wrote this but we're not really feeling good about about it. Just get it out there on the schedule and then you ain't fooling nobody. We we have a plan. Do what you gotTa do what you gotTa do. I'll I will do what I gotta do. Talk some Shit.

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24. Authenticity vs Integrity

The Long and The Short Of It

19:27 min | 2 years ago

24. Authenticity vs Integrity

"How lo- Peter. Hey, jen. What is your middle name? My middle. Name is Jonathan Peter Jonathan Sheppard. I need to speak to you about something that I read that has rocked my world, and this has to do with the distinction between authenticity and integrity. Prepare yourself. Peter Jonathan Shepard because there will be life before what I'm about to read you and life after what I'm about to read you can you handle it. I think I can handle it. This a long and the short of it. All right. Peter Jonathan Sheppard white. What's your middle name Lee? L E G H I G H noted Jennifer, Lea Wellman. That's right. Tell the readers the listeners the people who consume things so excited. I can't think straight. What am I holding up right now, you holding up a book by Seth Godin, of course. And it's the book called this is marketing, which is these latest book, which came out about six months ago. I think okay. The long of it is too long. So I'm going to go with the short of it. And read you a little passage from this book. The passage is from a chapter called beyond commodities and the little section if you're following along at home starts on page, seventy five, and it is titled authenticity versus emotional labor. And I quote. Emotional labor is the work of doing what we don't feel like doing. It's about showing up with a smile when we're wincing inside or resisting the urge to choose someone out because you know, that engaging with him will make a bigger difference. It takes a small amount of energy and guts to be authentic. You need to feel confident enough to let your true feelings be exposed knowing that if you're rejected it's personal, but there's a lot of hiding involved as well hiding from the important work of making change happen. If all you do is follow your, and he has imprint the seas make believe muse, you may discover that the muse is a chicken and its steering you away from the important work, and if the authentic you is a selfish jerk, please leave him at home. If you need to be authentic to do your best work. You're not a professional. You're a fortunate amateur. And he goes on. But I will stop there. And just reiterate the two things that I had to underline highlight circle and star it takes a small amount of energy and guts to be authentic. You need to feel confident enough to let your feelings be exposed knowing that if you're rejected it's personal. I think this is really really important. We're gonna talk about why in a moment. But the idea that sometimes it is personal is important. Then the other part that if you need to be authentic to do your best work, you're not a professional. You're fortunate amateur and he says fortunate because you have a gig where being the person you feel like being in the moment actually helps you move forward. So the thing is blowing my mind about this is. I believe very strongly in the concept of integrity. And I have felt less. Energized by the word authentic. But I could never have told you why? But then when I read this. I was like yes, Seth this is why because authenticity and integrity are not the same thing. You do not have to be authentic in every moment to be a person of integrity. Tell me more. Tell me more selling all Peter Jonathan Sheppard you're on a roll keep going. Well, it's. It's potentially a life changing idea for me. Because it essentially means that you get to choose in every moment, how you show up, and how you show up is not necessarily based on how you feel like showing up though, if I don't feel like being on this call with you today, I could be authentic about that be like, you know, what Pete? I'm tired. I'm just not feeling it this caffeine's not kicking in or whatever the excuses and say, you know, what let's just push it off for another day till I feel more authentic Louis into it. Or I could say I am a person of integrity. What I believe what I say. And what I do exist in alignment with each other. And so I have said to you. We are recording this episode today at three thirty M eastern time. And so I show up and I show up for you. And I show up for the listeners, and it has nothing to do with me. And how I feel. I was gonna say nets also to the other point that he mentioned is that's the emotional labor. Right. Do you think that like when you hear emotional labor? Do you think that is maybe not transferable but closely aligned with integrity? Yes. Yes. I think emotional labor and integrity, go hand in hand, but emotional labor and authenticity. Do not agree. He's I think this goes to so many of the things we've talked about around consistently showing up consistently thinking about who's a form. What's four and consistently leaning into comfort an imposter syndrome is. Authenticity is almost like it's it's a way of hiding of being like, oh, but I'm being authentic, whereas emotional labor is the hod pot of showing up even when you don't feel like showing up and you can extend this metaphor until like sports, you he elite sports people talk about they train and six in the morning when they just copy the training anymore, and that's physical. But, but it is emotional labor to is like, oh the thought of getting up and doing this again, but I'm a person of integrity. I'm a person who's committed to excellence and mastery. So that is what I must do. Not being authentic, but being brave enough and William enough to act with integrity and lean into emotional labor. And do you think it's too sweeping statement for me to say authenticity is? Easier than acting with integrity or leaning into emotional labor. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Tell me more Peter Jonathan Sheppard. Well, I think the the word labor is like so important to just highlight when set talks about emotional labor, and if we're saying it's closely related with integrity. Then I think it's it's worth talking about. Because a labor suggests something is laborious something is difficult. Something is hard. Something is heavy something like weighing on us. And we have to. Lean into all get used to discomfiting in order to get through something. And so I think like we all do in various pods of Al lives. We look for the easy pot the easy option. The thing that isn't as heavy and laborious and painful to do. And that is why people have things like rod is block. And that is why people don't make the podcast that they've been thinking about making a six years because it's laborious it's hot and that they don't want to do the emotional labor and show up even when they can't be bothered. And so they tell themselves a story that they are being Athetic, and maybe it's not for them. And that I don't have the rot podcast skier. And the bitter of serving the people that I say to serve in other ways. So I think it's like a place where we on an even stop to Oscar selves prompt outselves, am I hiding in my authenticity here? Like, what am I hiding from? Or another way of asking. It is am I doing the emotional? Labor issues that question quite a lot myself. And I think it's a question that we can come back to almost every day size. Wanna highlight the podcast example, not not because we're making a podcast just because I think it's an easy one for people to wrap their brain around. Making a podcast is not the hard part. The act of making the podcast is actually the easy part acknowledging that people are going to listen to it and figuring out how to bring your podcast to the people who need to hear it and showing up in service of them knowing that they may or may not like what you have made that is the hard part FOCA. Right. So this is interesting is this the roots? Do think of almost all emotional labor is that's a sweeping generalization. But is it true that we hide from emotional labor because it's scary and way of fearful, and if we considered fear is an onion, which I know you and I have talked about before line. As being like an onion. And if you unpeeled the onion at the core of it is the main fear the root of all fees, which is the fear of other people's opinions. I think it is absolutely accurate center of the bullseye, which ironically is kind of the next point. I wanted to make about this the center of the bullseye. The idea of why when we focus on what? So for example. It's the podcast. It's so hard to figure out the podcast. We're getting away from our y and when we focus on why we do what we do y we make what we make that part is the emotional labor, though, I believe and I'm willing to be tested on this and proven wrong. The right now what I believe is that emotional labor. One hundred percent of the time is about humans not about products not about. Services not about things, but about people. So emotional labor is align with y. Do you think I do why? And how. Yeah, okay. This is interesting because I just wrote down that one way of framing that is in terms of if we have a lot of struggle. I mean, we all struggle with the discomfort of emotional labor. So one way of framing at maybe is that starting with y and thinking about why and how is generous whereas thinking about what and thinking about being authentic is selfish. And I don't think as many people that are that want to be someone who considers themself selfish. I think most of us seek to be generous. And that I think is what starting with y reminds us to do is to be in service by the people to make a contribution to other people. And I think that if we can think about emotional labor as a generous act that could be it could be somewhat useful. So I'd like to take us into the next layer of Simon syntax, golden circle. Because the why is. Going to be the thing that that we use as a north star. The thing that is constant and guides us in the direction were meant to go. The second layer of golden circle, the house layer is where the emotional labor takes place because the house are the actions that you take when you are functioning at your natural best the thing, that's worthwhile about doing something. Like, a wide discovery is when you come out of it on the other side, you have your wife statement. And for those of you who are like what the hell is John talking about? There's a great book called find your Y, which outlines this whole process. So you you exit that process with a wise statement and five articulated how statements which when you are feeling like you have to be authentic instead of in integrity. That would be a great time to look at your house and say. Wait a minute. I have proof that when I am operating on my natural best. These are the things I am doing. These are the things I am actually doing to show up in integrity. And live my why. So I think about the why in the house is being the emotional labor part of this. And it's really exciting to me to have just made that connection. So thank you. Seth godin. For that little nugget fifth to live is once again as does Simon as the silent to avail favorites. So now, the question becomes what to do what to do with this moment of clarity? I can see how there are places in my own life. I could apply this need to be authentic immediately. As a like, get real John live. Your y focus on your house like show up with the emotional labor. For example. We got home really late last night after being significantly delayed on a flight. I did not get a full night's sleep last night. And I after you, and I get off this call. I'm gonna go pick my daughter up from choir practice, and she is gonna wanna talk my ear off. Basically until bedtime. Now. Part of me is going to want to say Kate. I am so tired. I had such a long day at work you'd along date at school. Let's just take a little break and and quiet ourselves down. But that would be me being authentic and not being an integrity with myself, and knowing that my why is to help people know themselves so that they can express themselves. If my daughter is expressing herself to me, and I shut it down because I need to be authentic. I am literally doing the opposite of living. My why? Yes. Selfish versus generous again. Interesting. Interesting. Authenticity is about taking care of ourselves. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe so like when you think about authentic before we hoped hoped on this co if you had asked me to define authentic. I'm trying to think what I would have said, I think I would have said something along the lines of telling the truth and being honest, you know, something like that. Do you think that's still applies? Still stands is that what authenticity is about. Now. I gotta I gotta read it again. Because the thing that really the thing that really struck me was this idea that. It takes a small amount of energy and guts to be authentic. So a small amount to be fantastic. You need to feel confident enough to let your true feelings be exposed. So that's what he's calling as authentic knowing that if your rejected it is personal. That's another part. That's like, oh, my gosh authentic is personal like we kind of have to deal with that taking things personally and setting yourself up to take things personally what a great excuse to not do anything. Exactly. So you like on acting authentically? So I'm being truthful, and if someone doesn't like it, I take it personally. And I say well that I like it. So I don't have to do it anymore. So sess definition, I think is letting your true feelings be exposed that's authentic city. And in his parlance, emotional labor is doing what we don't feel like doing emotional labor is the work. We do to provide service. I think this is really important is like Seth also talks about in that book, you know, this idea of who's we've talked about a thousand times, but is the people use of. May not care about you being truthful. In fact, I probably don't care about you being truthful they care about well sorry. I don't want to say that that care about you being truthful, but I don't necessarily care about your with anticipate they care about whether you can help themselves. Their problem genuinely help them solve their problem, and the emotional labor of helping them see that is pot of you having to remove yourself and put your oath into the aside and say, I'm gonna show up in service of this person. Not because about me because it's about them. I'm also thinking about how. Some of the people who I follow in social movements. I really do not need them to be authentic. Like that would actually be a disaster. In terms of some of the ideas are looking to push forward, for example. I follow several people who are leaders in the inclusion movement. It would be devastating. If one of them got up to a microphone and said, you guys. I'm just too tired to do this today. I just can't be bothered anymore. Yeah. It's it's just it's too exhausting. So if you guys don't mind, let's let's put this speech off until tomorrow. But no, they're a person of integrity. And I'm just going to double down on my own definition of integrity that what you believe. And what you say. And what you do they match that is a person of integrity. So if you believe in inclusion, and it doesn't matter if you feel like getting up and talking about it that day or not you do it. And then you say what you believe you say it out loud. That's what it means. The emotional labor. Jennifer Lea Waldman. Oh, wow. What a journey. What a journey. It's blowing my mind. It's blowing my mind. That's all. That's all. That is the long and the short of it.

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Disney Animation Chief Jennifer Lee Is The Queen Behind Elsa And Anna

NPR's Business Story of the Day

07:13 min | 1 year ago

Disney Animation Chief Jennifer Lee Is The Queen Behind Elsa And Anna

"Just when you thought you had pushed it out of your consciousness it's back manager. Danny that of course is the theme song from frozen. The movie was a massive. Hit the Disney film long-held the crown as the highest grossing animated movie worldwide frozen was written and Co directed by Jennifer Lee who has since been named Walt Disney animation studios chief creative officer the first woman to hold such a position during the making making of frozen to. NPR's Elizabeth Blair sent some time. Spent some time with her in frozen to water. Air Fire and earth are important to the story so he's the wind in the movie the characters call her gail sometimes. She's he's playful and sometimes she's angry. We played a little louder in a windowless room at the Disney animation studios in Burbank. Supervising sound editor Odin. Benny test test plays the different wind. Sounds for a group of people working on the film including Jennifer Lien and her co director. Chris Buck because she blasts that. That tree tree limb away from Ana. That's gale goes your the magic and Gail starts to go around Elsa and then spits the others out. This kind of collaboration goes on on for just about every aspect of an animated Disney movie says Jennifer Lea and you go shot by shot moment by moment frame by frame and discuss everything everything from the emotion to the effects to the camera. The first frozen was inspired by Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tale the snow queen one of the heroines. Elsa has magical powers she can make ice and snow in a split second for inspiration for the new movie Lee and a team from Disney traveled to Norway Finland and Iceland wasted on a glacier for the first time really hit us. What would elsa feel standing here? The glacier it's a thousand feet deep is thousand years old it's of nature completely and something she would probably be so connected to and we realized is sort of the mythic round her power. That opened up the story to be something even bigger for us. That's something begins as a secret. Siren that calls astounds. Can you hugh some look for Travel Pretty Soon Elsa decides to go in search lurked the secret siren on her own. Her sister ANA wants to go with her. You are not going alone. I have my powers to protect me. You don't excuse me. I climbed the North Mountains survived a frozen 'em saved you from my ex-boyfriend and I did it all without powers so you know I'm coming storytelling. It's serious business at Disney teams of writers and directors not only work on their own movies but also lend fresh set of eyes and ears on other movies development this kind of peer review process. This is not for everyone says Clark Spencer President of Disney animation. But he says when Jennifer Leaf I came to Disney twenty eleven. As a freelance writer. She Dove Frieden. She just accepted that the story team is in there trying to help build the story and you got to keep that vision but listen to the ideas and figure out what is really behind those ideas how how is that going to help propel the character for where do I push back. And where do I actually listen and figure out how I am going to alter where I see the story at this point in time and so I think that piece of it made the entire studio just fall in love with her Lee was on the team that made wreck it. Ralph and Zootopia a socially conscious children's movie about unconscious bias. I mean it's not like a bunny could go savage right but a Fox could stop it. You're not like them. There's them now now. You know what I mean you kind of Predator. The kind that needs to be muzzled. Zootopia won an Oscar and became Disney Animation Studios second movie to cross the billion dollar mark at the global box office. The I was frozen. WanNa build a snowman rider bike around. Aw frozen won. Two Oscars Jennifer Lea walked the red carpet with her sister. The movie spawned a cottage industry of other products a bestselling soundtrack a Broadway. Show a ridiculous amount of merchandise fan videos and children performing the songs in talent shows around the world when making the new movie Jennifer Lee said she tried not to think too much about disappointing the deep well of frozen fandom. Well I think I think if you try to think about it. It's it's overwhelming and it doesn't you almost can't process it. Lee has had a lot to process. She watched someone she respected. John lasseter get forced out of Disney named over allegations of sexual misconduct lease says lassiter was instrumental in putting her on the team that made frozen he executive produced movies she worked on and Lasseter's legacy at Disney is complicated. There had been rumors of his misconduct but he was also considered visionary. It's an adjustment. It's all overwhelming at at times. But we have all these films that needed to move forward and what we all did which became a model for me as we we got together and and we all sat as directors and producers and said. What do we see for the studio? What are the things we need to do? Going forward what we try to say. All the time is the work. That's what did you go to go to the work. When Lee was named Disney? Animation's new chief Creative Officer Walt Disney Studios Chairman. Alan Horn said with frozen. She brought a new and exciting perspective to the company. Lee think some of her mental toughness comes from being raised by a single mom. A nurse who worked three jobs Lee remembers being bullied and taking comfort in stories one of her favorites with Cinderella. I think the biggest thing for me was her. You're being mistreated so much. But being able to say it's not you. It's them and hold onto her strength. Cinderella remained ever gentleman kind. Aw for with each dawn. She found you at Sunday. A dreams of things would come to fairy tales for kids is. We're going to take you a little bit into scary places that you an notions of things that you are uncomfortable with to help you cope in real life but we're always going to bring you back to a safe place. Jennifer Lien says. She wants Disney animation to push the art form forward and create new stories and characters that speak to the world today. Elizabeth Blair N._p._R. News.

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66 | Fantasy | Feeding the Wolf by Jennifer Leigh

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66 | Fantasy | Feeding the Wolf by Jennifer Leigh

"Weirdo bookworm unite. We want to share our love of genre fiction with you. Some readers leaders out there may look down on you for your love of horror sci fi and fantasy but not us so stop by as we discuss what we've been reading. Jonah Junkies. Welcome back. This is Sandra this is Scott and here. We have our last book episode of their year of the decade in fact. Isn't that crazy. No we are going to have one more episode before the end of Twenty nineteen and that's GonNa a b our our wrap up. We have to do our favorite books of the year with cocktails. It's a tradition. We also candidate for Scott's birthday this year which was a lot of fun. It's kind of like our signature thing is like cocktails. So that'll be cool. Look forward to that but today in just a few minutes. We're going to start talking in about a fantasy novel feeding the wolf by Jennifer Lea and really excitingly. We haven't author interview for this spoke. It's been a little while and so we're excited to get back into the SETON. Get that interview going. So that'll be cool because we haven't done one and we love interviewing being authors especially female authors when we could a chance and it was really fun to pick her brain and here's some insight. She has about this novel in about the writing writing process in general if you are into writing and the process of writing and kind of what that means I think you will find her perspective. Live to be really interesting refreshing. Yes and very honest so look forward to that. We're going to you know how we do. We're GONNA Sandwich that in between do. Don't lock me Regan Sandwich. Ed Twain are spoiler free and the spoilers section. Uh before we do Scott Sandra. Have you been enjoying any genre elated media lately. I mean it's all the man Delorean all the time it is. It's disgusting. How obsessed we are without Shell and I mean in all your better people are? It really reminds me of the what's now called the legacy novels or the disbanded UNIFIL. Yeah I mean. It's not called that anymore longer. Canada our childhood and young adulthood it's written so similarly to that and it just. It fills a void. That I didn't realize is was there. Jon favreau such a genius and we don't deserve him now and I have I think did I share on this show my theory that quote unquote baby. Abo is a clone. Probably not I think. I think that was on spooky slumber party. I know I shared it over there but I couldn't remember fishermen here that's one of two theories of have one. Is that the child baby. Yoga as they are better now is a clone of Oji. Yoda got that theory and then I also have just. Is this kind of wild. What if theory that the child is a girl? Do you think the child is a girl it could be because we already had a boy I would. Maybe this is a girl. Yep certainly couldn hidden and who knows maybe the the Yoda race. I don't they don't have a name. Maybe they maybe they are not gendered. Awhile no they could be. I actually floated that that they could be Kinda hermaphroditic I mean honestly I don't want to get involved in processes because I don't think anybody wants to go there I'm EU child. I kind of do want to go. There will and you know what I was thinking is. Maybe Yoda chose the name Yoda because he he was under the impression that he was like the last of his species and maybe the species is called Yoda while he knew there was at least one other because there was another one on the on the Council Soleil. Yeah that little controversial figure who like everybody's like that's another. Yoda I remember for many years. I thought if people are like you trip in. That's another Yoda and I'm like. There's another cheese I got the animated my angered at I just smacked the microphone. You're really brings this hour to me. Scott and I like everyone else are incredibly protective of the child. They better not drop the child in any more episodes scan a little being in top. I think we're all getting a little bit sick of that. It's not okay. Protect our baby. That's right ovation for that child. That child anything else hurts all all mandatory and all the time time for me. It's just it's just that yeah. I'm reading the Queen of nothing right now. Also the end of the folk affair trilogy. That's going to be real painful. It's a lot of tears. A lot of laughs absolute auto tears and yeah just working on other shows and Spooky Number Party and cult show staff GonNa be he doing some gremlins related content on the cult show which is really exciting. Because you know Gizmo Gizmo fans have kind of popped out of the woodwork with baby. Yoda like like what you know about the mark. Y that's completely legitimate. Gives most of the original little cute baby creature with the big is in the years ears and the small stature to like good he spoke out. Yeah very few Christmas movies. Unless they're kind of horror Jason that I'm well versed in Grammy's has I like to call it pretty high up there who doesn't love some Grammy's okay. So without further ado we're GonNa talk to you about last genre junkies book of the decade feeding the wolf by Jennifer Lea as a captain in the king's Army Terron Ellsbury led led his men with courage and honor winning battle after battle to become a decorated war hero and though he escaped. Death Survived Warren claimed victory. He paid a heavy price. Not Not only did he lose valuable men his brothers in arms he lost something even more precious a piece of his soul. He returns home with a heavy heart. Too overwhelmed by pain and guilt to forgive. Forgive himself only just beginning to heal. He is thrust once again into the chaos of were ordered to lead his young cadets to what he fears is certain death. I'm actually going to leave it there there. I think it's good to leave it there. I always like to well. I mean not always. I often like to not read a whole synopsis because a lot of people are like Scott. Were the don't really lead like to read. synopsys Scott is lucky because I read excuse for yeah for the show but I know a lot of people are also like they they do cover buys or they do just like they want to hear just a little bit about the book or the Jonah is so sometimes we do to cut it off early. I think it's interesting thing about this particular This particular synopsis. Because I have read the Synopsis On this Multiple Times. It's it is very accurate but at the same time. This book was not at all what I was expecting I mean would you agree with that. I was not expecting this book to be what it was eight. They definitely exceeded what I thought it was GONNA be. I definitely almost think of this. Like play and it's like in three acts. Okay Yeah and and I mean nothing else about it is really like a play but It is kind of like a play in my mind where it's in like three acts kind of like an a shakespearean kind of way of like this character's journey through these three stages it is a fantasy novel but it's not you know what they call. Hi Fantasy. There is no wizards. There's no majors or dragons or anything like that. It's more book or I should say season one one of game with yeah more season. One of game of thrones Lord of the Rings. Yes yes I think that's pretty good way to put it and because it is said and obviously a distant past in faraway fictitious land and the kingdom where there's kings and Knights and battles and things so maybe if you're kind of looking for a break from that more heavy handed fantasy Or you're just kind of getting into being your toes into the fantasy genre. Sometimes books like this are really good for people so that they don't have to like get Chu stressed start with world building. Because I know it's hard for those of us who love fantasy to believe but it's a real thing that people get stressed out with world building and fantasy and I believe because I've gotten close to that so sometimes it's a little bit nicer to be like okay. This is fantasy that's really character focus. This is very character focused. And and I understand why this particular thing is not in the book but Jennifer. Why is there no map in this book? Lena Ninety where is the map. Where's the map though? It's not important doesn't need it but I want it. If we send you this book we draw who don't sign it. Just draw up. I love a book with a map. We love a book with our love. A book with Matt's Matt's just sets up it just sets up so beautifully for me. Yeah like there's a wonderful low. Oh book with a map map aside it still Experience Score. I was actually going to have you go first OK. The feeding the wolf is a solid page. Turner for me okay. I was incredibly engrossed in this book. I read it into sittings sittings I I really just found it real just incredibly interesting on the character choices and the the progression of the story in the progression Russian of of where the characters were going. I really wanted to see where they ended up. I really cared about Taryn. I really cared about his success. Asset recovery and it just it just completely grabbed me. I totally hear you on that for me. This book started as solid solid. All it good read and then turned into a page Turner for me and that you know. Sometimes that's a mood and that's like a mindset but I really really cared what about Taryn a lot. I liked all the characters. There's a character that comes along later in the book called Amelia. Who I really kind of bonded to but I really like tearing a whole whole lot and that kind of leads me into kind of overarching theme of this book? That I don't think is addressed addressed enough in any genre but especially in horse I find fantasy which is mental health agreed. I don't think you can talk about this book and not talk about mental health. I think that that mental health is the the actually pretty I was gonNA say unspoken but pretty directly referred to main character territory of this book so Scott. If may I call you Scott Humane. May I call you Sandra you may. We've read a lot of books. We've had a lot of fantasy books except for before John Ra- junkies even. Have you ever read one. Where a healer heels people's mental health absolutely? I wasn't wasn't that something fantastic. There's a character named grace. He's a healer but she doesn't just set bones and give you tinctures she. She heals people by talking to them. Like therapist yes. Are there not more in books. Why are you Friday thing? Because you know it's it's very easy to kind of create this this idea in your head that okay. I'm writing fantasy so it's it's kind kind of a historical sort of thing and they didn't really know about mental health back then which is partially true but it's fantasy it can be whenever you want right and and I think it's really brave and interesting that Jennifer Made mental health be such an important part of the story in this setting. I've read ahead. I never quite to the same level. But I've read science fiction stories that deal in mental health particularly post traumatic stress disorder. uh-huh this is the first fantasy that I can think of that that no only touches on it but but highlights it emphasizes it. Our World in general is turning more towards towards a place of being really open about mental health and physical health as well. I haven't really talked about it a whole on this show but a lot of people know I have P. HE CEO s which polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. If you want to look it up and it's a big challenge and it's crazy way that changed how I live my life life and it's not something that's well-spoken of and even more so we don't talk about mental health. Hold on this show honestly. I don't talk about what my mental health because I imagine it's very boring. I think other people's mental journeys are interesting but I imagine mine is boring but it but I have have it have a mental health journey. I have depression anxiety. Obsessive compulsive bipolar. And you know and I've done a lot of work for it and I I still do and it's not that I'm ashamed of it or anything. It's just like like I said I just doesn't really come up. I don't know but it's nice when we have books and characters Jason Stop. That's like hey this is something I'm going through. You know I never really thought about it but you are right. That mental health is becoming less of a stigma. Ma Phrase But we as a society have still not got quite got to the point where we openly talk about our mental health with others. Physical health is a a little bit more acceptable. Now and and it's accepted that you know society has accepted more that it's okay to have mental health issues in. It's okay okay to seek help for those issues. Yes but it's still a bit of a stigma to openly talk about it. Yeah and it's so funny. I was thinking about that with like if I was GonNa talk about about mine and I was like nobody cares not interesting. So do you think you like I said I love hearing about other people's much. Yeah so anyway I was like well. What a nice time to throw it out there that if like you're genre junkie that's just something else you can know about me is that I'm on a mental health? Lifelong lifelong journey as well. Well I guess I should join it on this. Since we're you know we're we're sharing and we're de stigmatizing it. I have my own mental mental health journey as well I mean I have. I have general depression but I also have pretty severe seasonal affective disorder. This time of year is very very difficult. I think it's I you know when it gets dark when it stays dark layton. It gets dark early. It's hard and it's it's hard to stay motivated to do anything. And so you know I. I think what's important when it comes to mental health is it's never one person's is worse or better or less or more than someone else's everyone else's journey is their own It's not a competition. Everyone has one. Yeah there's no one on this earth that does not have some sort of mental health journey. They may have rested or not addressed it. But it's there it's like. I'm so fine and I was so perfectly well-balanced all the time it's like Okay I started to get suspicious of you but no that's great and you know what if captain of the King's Army me Prince Terron can talk about it by God. We can talk about it. How about an appeal score? I'M GONNA go first on this as well and I am giving this the very rare mass appeal score to this book that his rare. That is where we don't we don't just hand those out route. I think that this is not just for fantasy. Readers I think this is incredibly well written when it comes to as we've just been discussing his mental health journey and everyone I feel there's something to relate to almost anyone in this book and I think that's that's really special and that's really powerful and you know there's nothing in there that's GonNa turn off people who are quote unquote nod into fantasy. Because it's not it's it's it's low fantasy yes not not fantasy light. It's low fantasy and I think that that actually feeds into it even better. There's there's everything and is explained in a human natural way and everything is is realistic in that sense and for that reason. I think that this is a this is a powerful book that anyone one can enjoy. I agree and I was actually leaning somewhere in between but I thank you. Swayed my vote. Over into mass mass appeal. I agree because because like I mentioned earlier like if you're kind of just getting into fantasy or kind of dipping your toes in this is a comfortable place to do it this type of book or if you've read a ton of fantasy and maybe looking for kind of had different take a different perspective. This is a nice opportunity for that too and I want to touch on one other thing that that before we go into our spoiler sexually about the writing style alkyl on this is a very uniquely written book to me me where it where Jennifer definitely writes this story in a sense where it's you can tell it's kind of written in one one go like it's it's it's like a creative writing prompt but turned up to eleven in a good way which which is a really unique way to write a mass published book. That really works very well for the story and so this is this. This is a unique book as well that I recommend that you are dear listeners read because it is not written like many other books that we have reviewed viewed on this show in the past. Yeah and it's a really good example of this style of writing. ooh That was really well said Scott. I don't I don't know that I could say it any better. That's pretty actually occurred. Actually my hat. I tip my hat to you. I take your hat. I wear hats I am your. I'd become your hat. We're just talking about Canada. America's hat hitting bidding. We Love You Canada. We have a new listener in Canada. Who wrote a really nice reviews? Oh yes we yes yes Sydney are L.. In Canada left us a review on apple podcasts. I didn't catch it when you I left it because we're not in Canada but I did just get notification. Thank you so much very very very sweet. We don't do a whole lot of like. Hey comment like subscribe on this show. Why can subscribe the? Yeah but we really do like it and we do like to hear from everybody is really cool and you know we have a pretty pretty good presence on social media at least my God we try instagram anyway. Scott is overwhelmed or twitter so but we are available to you and listen on spotify or apple or whatever we really deeply appreciate it and thank you for doing so yes thank you so much and and without further ado. Why don't we talk to this author Jennifer and see if we can find out a little bit more and then we'll see you for some spoilers all right everybody in without further ado as promised promised we are GonNa kick off our interview with today's author Jennifer Li? Hi Jennifer. Hi this is Lee or is it lay just realizing think mess that up it is Lee although my son for whatever reason insists on calling me lay your right you got. It stopped cutting one all right off to a great start Jennifer. Thank you so much for joining US tonight. Thank you for having me. I'm super excited. This is really exciting for us to get to talk. Talk to you We haven't had in a few little bid and we especially loved to interview female authors whenever we get a chance. Oh cool while then you've come to the right. Replace all right awesome. Scott do you WANNA kick us off. Yes so I just WANNA start right off right at the beginning. What inspired the story? Meanwhile that That question is low number one question. I get asked about this book because no one seems to understand so it's based off of an old Cherokee okay or a native American legend where an old man is talking to his grandson about the two wolves that are inside of us. All right we have a good wolf. We have a bad wolf both warring against each other all the time and the wolf. That wins is the woolsey feed so basically it's all about not giving into the negativity in your lives and making sure you're not getting overwhelmed by all of that and you're feeding the good wolf the whole time so my story. My poor hero Taryn is just besieged with all of these negative emotions all the time and he's constantly struggling to not feed that wolf basically for months and months after he gets back from war. Okay the legend. That's really really beautiful. Yeah so do you have. Do you have experience with that sort of that sort of mythology in the past or is this. There's something that you researched in in writing this book you know. It's kind of a shame to say I didn't do any research whatsoever. Don't judge me I please no But I always I've known about this legend for a long time. I've kind of seen it out there just in random searches for book topics and things like that and one one day. My daughter was talking about something I don't know. And she came up with this line and she just said Bob it's like there are bodies everywhere and I was. Oh my gosh. What a great opening in line and I thought about bodies being everywhere in who that would pertain to okay? A soldier all right a young soldier and there's bodies everywhere and I love fantasy honesty so I'm gonNA choose fantasy. What's this guy's story? It's the bodies are everywhere so obviously the battle is done and now it happens to him well now basically he has. PTSD St Right. So it's about this poor guy who has all these problems in the aftermath of what he's seen and done and then trying to deal with all that kind of blends into this feeding the wolf mythology the dark and the light the good and the evil all that warring within us all the time. Wow there's like scanner like in awe. That's deep man but it is deep. It's actually quite deep. It sort of is but I'm again I didn't do any research into PTSD. In retrospect I probably should have the book this kind of came out of me and turned into what it is and yet poor Taryn just having to bear the brunt of my strange neuroses I gets kind of happens right like characters can take on a life of their own and we get that all the time from authors that we talked to you is. They're like I don't choose what this character does. It talks to me. Yeah it's so true in my organic writing style. That sometimes gets me in trouble but more often than not works out for the better that you're so right all of a sudden the characters will do something. Say something or they'll just up here on the page. Also they just kind of grow into existence without you even conjuring them it's pretty cool So did you. You always want this book to be a fantasy or did you. For a little while think that it could be a contemporary science fiction No I think fantasy overall overall I've written five other books and they're all kind of different genres and I discovered that fantasy was my favorite too right from so I thought well if I'M GONNA have this book that'd be the best it can be the best representation of my writing than I'm gonNA write with. Start with the best of me which is fantasy so it always started out that way. Nice so so. We've often described that like Scott night in our interests lake in if you look at it as a van diagram like I am like more. The horror he's sci fi and fantasy is like where we overlap unlike cava shared Who are some of your favorite fantasy? Writers were fantasy novels. Oh Gosh I love Sarah J Moss. Yeah I know you like that to her court of Thorns and roses. Series isn't quite as dear to me as the throne of glass but still. I enjoyed it very much. I've I've actually read it twice. Yeah I'm an avid avid reader Jay Christoph is another favourite although he's kind of a hybrid. I just finished a series of his never night. Chronicles which was fantasy to me. But I'm also now reading his Aurora rising which is more of the sci-fi so I kind of a hybrid blend to actually actually nice. Okay Yeah I was GONNA say kind of on that note. How about Sifi? Yeah not a huge sci fi fan but I did enjoy Books like the Hunger Games aims the divergent series the illuminate files actually another J Christoph. Yeah things like that so kind of something. That sort of almost has a little bit of a magic sort of element element to it or a fantasy element to it and also dystopia and so I don't know if that's considered sci-fi probably not as much but mechanic yeah for sure yet. Jay Kristof illuminate. He wrote that with another author to yes. How very cool? I think you are a little bit. The same star Wars Scott's more more like a spaceships and whatnot and I'm more like the will. What if you know worst case is yeah agreed no totally? That's a perfect way to describe it. You're more star wars. He is more star. Trek's got it. Well he looks wounded Star Wars. Let me start worse. But you're also a star trek exactly more than I am. Yeah I mean I've watched like four upset star trek in my life so I think thank you thank you are i. I liked them both just like them. Both you can like them both at absolutely so Jennifer. What is your favorite part of the writing writing process while well? The process is so multifaceted and for me being an organic writer. I don't really have a starting point. I just kind kind of jump in wherever the mood takes me so sometimes I'll even start with just something simple like title coming up with a title or coming up with the characters name or a place where they're from or the color of their. I is super random but overall for me the best part is just creation. It's taking something from my brain a thought of an inspiration image even and putting it onto the page with words in a way that someone else could potentially see what I am seeing. So that's definitely What kind of calls to me with the whole writing in general as at creation process very cool so used a term that I haven't I haven't heard before and I I think I understand it but if you could explain it you said your organic writer can you? Can you explain that the way I understand that I've applied to myself is is that I don't have a super strong outline. Usually when I start to right I have more nebulous ideas. Something that kind of exists like I said a title jumped from this one line bodies everywhere that kind of jumped off from with my feeding the Wolf Story. I think it's mostly that the stories kind of grows naturally as you write it. I have a starting point usually an endpoint. I know where my want my characters to go but how they get there is usually up in the air. It just kind of one thing leads leads to another as I'm writing. It grows so more organic in that way. Does that make sense does actually do you find. Do you ever find yourself at a point with with your books where you have to kind of turn back time and change directions or do you just let it flow. It depends on the book book. I have a couple of books where it just one thing led to another beautifully. I didn't have to do a lot of backtracking. I didn't write myself into a corner and then I have other books that not only changed direction but changed vehicles like we jumped from like a bus to a truck to train to something else. It was ridiculous and those were super hard to write in super hard to finish so I learned my lesson a little bit. He kinda do have to have sort of an outline or bit of structure otherwise you really get into the weeds. And that's not a good place to be so I have written myself into the corners for sure but then other times it just kind of flows Outta me it's weird. I don't know really why that happens. If it's the subject matter or the content or the I'm more invested in the characters Thursday. The story itself not really sure how it works every once in a while I just Kinda yeah right myself into a corner and have to do a lot of backtracking to get back to a good starting place. I'm thinking like when you're saying organic I have this vision in my head of you like writing with a pen and paper like outside somewhere. I don't know why it's like a really beautiful visual but you probably don't you probably right at a computer. I'm guessing. Well there's one of my books actually That I wrote completely with pen and paper which is called something to believe in and it was really Kind of a challenge to myself. I had read an author's authors blogger. An article something somewhere. That said you're a more creative when you right with pen and paper because something happens. There's a direct link between your thought process and your body so things flow not literally but flow down your arm out your hand through penn onto the page something. You don't get that connection you don't get actually when you're typing on word processing. Whatever so I tried that I thought? Hey I'm GONNA try it see if it works. I love to challenge myself with my writing amounted. Write a whole book with only a pets. Let's of course it was several pens. But that's what I did and it was actually really. That was one of those books that just Kinda came. I just kind of flowed out of me. Just break-up writing and writing and writing the story kind of went in different places. I didn't know it was going to go here. It didn't know this person was going to do this. And all of a sudden they did it worked out great so a lot of backtracking GIG and of course. The editing was a little more arduous. Because when you type A story when you're riding on the computer you can sorta edit as you go whereas with pen and paper you really have to wait till you're all the way at the end before you can go back and start to fix things so that was a challenge but it was definitely a more more creative to me from the creation process than then just typing on a on a computer that it is. Oh my Gosh I feel justified. Thank you no problem commitment that it is incredible. Yeah it was like I said I love to challenge myself every book I've written represents a different challenge. I started out doing something that I'd never done before just to kind of see a can I do it embiid. Do I like it there. Yeah what's the first story. You remember writing When I was a kid I didn't do a whole lot of story? Writing I was was really into poetry when I was in third grade. Actually run a poetry contrast at my school. Thank you yeah and then I just didn't really write too much other than normal school assignments although I loved the creative writing essay assignments way more than argumentative or any other type of essay research the terrible but then after that I didn't do a whole lot I kind of graduated high school. I went to junior college for a little while. I met the love of of my life song named Neil him I so he wants kind of that happened. You get married you start having kids. You have to kind of think about more realistic goals and expectations for your life like. Hey that's got a job that pays money instead of being a star Dreamer for the rest of her life. So you kind of settled into that routine right in things from your childhood tend to kind of followed by the wayside so I really didn't write forever until like two thousand eleven. I finally only said Hey. I want to write a book and I did as crazy as that sounds. It's actually exactly how it happened. So that's my very first book. I ever publishes bushes called better off. It was self published but even still. It was my first flurry into. Hey can I do this and what does it feel like and do I like it and from there it was just I was lost lost. I am completely one hundred percent obsessed with writing. That's incredible de Right daily all the time. Oh my gosh do you yourself up to like a certain word count per day. No I have found that in when I try to limit myself in Little boxes around. Okay you have to do this. You have to do it this way you have to. Have you know the three acts and you have to do all this other ridiculously which is not organic writing. which is how I know? I am an organic writer. I don't like it. It feels like work feels like a task. It feels like a job. It's not fun to do that for me. So I say you know what if I only read back through what I just wrote. And that's all I do for my creative process today. Then that's what I do but end up writing ten thousand words. That's also what I do so I just let it kind of take me wherever it wants. Have you ever written ten thousand words in a day. I how she was going to say. Yes like when you said that. I'm like eating or oh my goodness yeah. Yeah there's been a couple of days I'll sit also K.. Today is going to be a writing day. I'm GonNa see what happens. I'm working on the middle of a story. Really WanNa get to the end or whatever and I have literally got sat on the couch. Like nine o'clock in the morning and I just right until like nine o'clock at night and I go back. Wow I just wrote ten thousand words. That's pretty cool. Yeah we it doesn't often but we have a slew of authors at our back right now coming to beat down your door and ask you how shared shared the answer than I probably would be an actual writer like for my full time job. But I don't know how it happens. That just happens and it's luck and it's not very very often it just kind of very random to a certain mood certain head space have lean a certain physical location. Yeah within my house. Everything has to be sort of quiet all kids dogs on and then I have to just be in the zone and then I'm in his own and I'm off to the races. That's really inspiring. Though that you that you have you know published multiple books and you still find so much joy in it that it doesn't feel like work and are able to be you know that that productive with it or just happy with it Yeah I really feel like I have so many stories to tell I mean I have the five books I've self published feeding the wolf which was traditionally published in a have probably about twenty others in progress at some point in the writing process. They're all kind of out there so I have a lot a lot a lot of imagination and stuff going on inside me that want to get on the. Hey I'm always writing. Something always doing something. Yeah absolutely that makes a Lotta Sense. When you describe your process that you would have different projects can going But you gotta see what's what's really true and what's really working for you read then exactly it's kind of like being at a buffet. You know you go to a buffet and you're like okay. What kind of food? Ma In the mood for tonight Chinese. Oh sweet here's some Chinese food or pizza or whatever so I say to myself what kind of riding my in the mood for by WanNa look at fantasy along contemporary a romance and adventure whatever. Oh Yeah I want to write about this and boom. Hey there it is I already have something in the works so believe it or not on occasion. Scott they do actually read literary fiction. So you don't have to you can and nonfiction and stuff too. I was just curious about some of your favorite works fantasy sci fi or not. Oh Wow I have read. I don't even know thousands and thousands of books over my life Dean Koontz used to be one of my all all time favorite authors. I haven't read a lot of Stephen King think to his books but I've read every single dinkins book he's ever written. That tells you a lot about the kind of writing that I liked lately. Though it's been all fantasy I mean it's do contemporary romance. I have read some Nora Roberts. Thank you very the course. Yes Jodi coal to read a lot of her stuff very moving lots of research involved with her stuff. I like also vampire book sandwiches and and you know all that kind of stuff. I read almost anything you put in front of me. I will read it and if I don't like it within the first three paragraphs out put it down and never pick it up again. uh-huh catches my interest. Already all the way through. Yeah that's you know it's bold in this day and age to to admit and we do too sometimes one musty. NF It's it's just you know what this isn't working for me did not finish goodbye. Yeah and the problem. I think that we have right now with the book. World is that self publishing exists Rates so anybody can write a book and self published it and sell it on Amazon or offer it for free or whatever so as an avid reader. You're constantly looking looking for new things to read and you're GonNa Recommendations by Friends of course to and good reads and all kinds of other bestseller lists etc but we run out of material. Sometimes and then you start controlling these lists of book picks and whatever else and you come across a lot a lot of junk and for me the more I write the more sophisticated indicated I guess my palate becomes so that means I want to read things that are more in line with what I write and the pickings are very slim at least for me. I don't find find a lot that I actually can stomach. I'm just like this book as a piece of crap. I can't believe it is out there in the world. I can't believe this person wrote this and called it like the Highlanders Islanders Lust at least name your book. Something a little bit more. I don't know creative or oh it's drives drives me crazy to see a new book jackets with this guy this kilt and he's got nothing on top and he's all this gleaming muscle and flowing hair like this is ridiculous. I I liked when I was like sixteen right. Yeah I'm guilty about but I think it would even though no it's so true it's like self publishing shing is just it's changed our world so much and there's stuff about it that's wonderful and then there's also like oh my gosh. I'm overwhelmed by so much coming at me at the same in time. Yeah it's hard. It's hard to pick the wheat from the chaff and get something good and then you stumble across something wonderful and by an author that you've maybe never ever considered reading before. They only have like two books. Dammit Yeah what like twenty from you and we need more of your style or your whatever and you're like oh man. You're so disappointed appointed to books and you just want more. We've had that discussion so many times. Not I mean sometimes on our show but even even just like in life where it's like but I want to devour the whole Canon. Why have you written a whole Canon? Exactly and what have you not Abella and like spinoff series and like Kanno Lee more for me to devour. And then there's the ones that start like trilogies and and five book series and they only get two books in like I. I want the rest though these yes exactly and so sometimes. I'll even look if I find a book that I want to read. Okay is it one of a trilogy or Douala College or whatever and if it is are the other books already available. Because of the aren't I'm not GonNa read this one yet because I want to be able to devour like binge-watching i WanNa Binge read. I want the whole series every episode all at once. Now please he is. And I think that's why we end up kind of rereading some books and some favorite authors is because it's like. Oh well I mean I just needed hit again. It's like drugs one hundred percent agreed. And you know I've read a fair amount of Gene Kunes in my life. Life was I was raised on the KOONS. I'm from one of those households where I've gotten into a fight with my dad over. WHO's better Stephen King Dean Koontz? Because my dad loves Stephen in King Dean Kootz till I die and you know Mr Mr Kuc can get pretty scary. He can. He's but he's also one of those where it's not so scary that you feel like you have to put it down because you're going to have a heart attack if you don't it's one of those stories where you need to see what happens next and that is his brilliance. I I liked that I I can see that are Human Scott. You haven't read Enough Dean Koontz. I think you'd really enjoy him are probably would i. Don't know if I've read any Dean Koontz now. I can't think awesome ahead. I know I know you should. Yeah yeah well psychological thriller if you like that. That's I think his specialty and the good thing thing about Dean Koontz if you read him and you like him he's written like a hundred books so we don't have that full problem of where I want. More guess what there's all walk nor and all of his I don't think he has any series that he hasn't wrapped up either. So I think you're pretty safe. Yeah yeah the Odd Thomas Series. I love his Frankenstein. Stuff is really good. Yeah Yeah and all and all the rest of his standalone staff is just amazing. Amazing so I would like to talk about some of these works that you say that you have working working in the future. Is there anything kind of near completion that we can look forward to. Hopefully there is one that I'm probably in my seventh Seventh round of editing. This might editor and we're getting very close to being done. I've been working on. This book feels like forever. It's called Cemetery County and it is contemporary. And it's about a private investigator who is struggling with the ghosts of his past coming back to haunt him not literal ghosts but Komo Sandra already. So I'm just lumped into the carpet. No that sounds really. ooh that sounds awesome but as someone who's a huge fan of liberal coats I was like worried. She read it. Goose store I did did not and I wouldn't. I would love to write a ghost story but no this particular one. So it's it's and like I said with everyone of my books. I've tried to challenge myself so this my challenge with this one was to write all of it in first person present tense from the male perspective. Oh so that's what I've done. I've never done that before. So we'll see what happens now. Give now you've caught Scott's attention for sure I'm definitely. I'm definitely interested in it because I have troubles with that particular perspective that tents l.. Really why is that. I don't know always read. It's always just read different for me. Maybe just because I grew up reading so much past tense. That present tense. It definitely creates a a sense of urgency. It's just sometimes it it just it hits me different snow it is. You're totally right. The tents and the point of view make a huge difference with the story. You're telling so I always consider that with my stories stories. This one this private investigator like I said he's Kinda dealing with this person coming back into his life that's really throwing him for a loop and he's all mentally messed up and it was sort of. PTSD to think about it thinking. I sense a theme I with my writing but he kind of action and a lot of love this. This person is kind of running through the gamut of all these mind games so he's constantly like looking for the hidden bodies over here in the criminal over there. Erin all this kind of stuff. So it's sort of crime but it's it's also sorta thriller. He's a serial killer the bad guys serial killer so there is a sense of urgency in the story itself so when you tell it in present tense because the story itself is urgent it only helps the story that I am really intrigued intrigued by that premise. That sounds pretty pretty cool and I think it's Really admirable and fascinating that you've got another character coming up. That's working through trauma because I think that's what makes our characters interesting right is when they're working through something really dark and heavy and it kind of helps us was reader and I imagine as a writer to no definitely. It's it's kind of meat juicy. It gives you something as a writer to sink your teeth into your character and this is definitely a redemption story. I mean this guy is kinda starting out on the wrong side of right and he really needs to get to the other side so the whole book is kind kind of about him exploring the mistakes he made trying to work through all that to get to the place where he can be actually be happy or these healthy with what's happening in his life and in the meantime time there's this bad guy trying to not let that happen. Essentially go a lot of challenges coming his way both internal and external and just kind of seeing him handle. Well it and the best part about the book is his name is Neal. Oh so I finally modeled the character after my wonderful husband. He's super thrilled. uh-huh yeah except for all right. We'll see how you feel my wife in the end the pack of dogs and cats. I wouldn't be surprised now doesn't happen man. Yeah we'll just we just wrote our own fan fiction version I think so weights. I have to say to that cover feeding the wolf is. It's really simple but it's really really beautiful. I love typography. That was chosen as well Severi. Pretty Buck Yeah. I was really surprised because my publisher we were going back and forth the funniest story the book cover so I kept trying to explain to him that there's not an actual wolf in this book. Wolf is a metaphor okay. uh-huh literary publisher you know what a metaphor is. Listen to my words. But he didn't he he to covers the first cover was a picture of a wolf on a hill howling at the moon. No yes but the second picture I can cover was a picture of a very close up picture. Picture of the side of a wolf's face head on front on not a silhouette profile shot but not just half of it and with a big tree in the background and then also oh a full moon kind of up in the sky so I wrote a real fast at him and I was just like okay for the hundredth time. The Wolf the book is not a Literal Role Wolf. Can you please just like it's more subtle. It's like it's like the idea wolf so then finally he. He came back to me with the cover that you see. He's like Oh. This isn't a middle grade a book about a Werewolf. Oh Okay Oh my God no Oh yes so finally. He came back with that and I love it. I love the is at the top. I agree the simple typography the gold with the white and then just my name at the bottom real simple. The only the thing I worry about it I was the cover makes it seem like it's contemporary but it's not so it was kinda worried that people will be thrown by the cover expecting being a story that you know that takes place kind now and this story obviously doesn't take place now I don't know. Do you think that made a difference when you read it did. Were you thrown by that at all. Not at aw. I wasn't thrown by it and now I think it actually added to the darkness of the just the general feeling of the book like that that just that depression that that Dr the darkness of the cover is very striking. And then when you're actually holding it and you close it and he's like oh it's just so ominous yes I love it. It's black the requested it be black but it came out I was like Oh my God. This is brilliant. This is beautiful so so finally you got it right. Time's a charm by the way I wouldn't mind if you did write a middle grade where we'll book. I'm just saying if that was if that means speaks to you. We're going to read that. Yeah I don't have any where will folks in the works right now. I do have a book about a shadow demon. So we'll see what happens with that and a book about an angel and a demon who our enemies. This constantly fighting each other across millennia does the closest I have to wear wolf. I guess right now we will. We'll take my she would reach. Please looking for natural books. We'll take two of each send them to our Po box and match absolutely. You could be my Beta readers for life. I love it. Oh God you know we. We've had to write many an apology because we've tried to Beta readers but with our with the content creating what what we do we fall behind. Were terrible Beta readers. We don't we don't agree to pay to read anymore. I know because we just we couldn't keep up. We felt so guilty. So you became Omega readers. Then right bottom of the packs just I got true actually. Yeah it's true and it's you know what it's like. We'd love to read your book. We're just gonNA unfortunately have to read a finished copy. Oh totally no yeah. Absolutely get it for sure. Oh good yeah. My feelings are not hurt whatsoever. Thick skin. I'm a writer later. I can deal with it. Alright yes absolutely. Okay so Jennifer. You are so flipping positive about everything that has to do with writing and publishing. We never asked this. But what is the hardest part about writing for you. Editing no hesitation editing. I actually hate it. I hate the editing process because it is the antithesis to creation. You're actually taking things and you are destroying them your une creating creating because you are taking what you originally wrote on your changing it. Or you're deleting it. I've had delete delete entire chapters of my books for feels like someone is taking out. What a piece of my heart with a spoon painful? I hate it I hate it. Yeah it makes the books better. It makes the story stronger. The characters more well rounded overall. It's it's nothing but a positive thing it's part of the process. You can't skip it. I have read books where it's obvious people have and today's suck. I want to put out the best product I possibly can. And if that means spending hours and hours editing than that's what I'm GonNa do I'm not GonNa stop until it is absolutely as good as I think it can be. I have extremely high standards for myself because I know as a reader I hate reading crop and I don't want anybody to read one of my books and say that was crap what I mean. So yeah that's it. I'm just going to have to embrace the suck and power through now. That's I think that's very very wise and I mean that's the truth I who like my minds blown a little bit editing like the antichrist entity it's so true uh-huh isn't it Yup. That's why I hate it. Scott Editing. PODCAST that's creative. There is a creative aspect to it because sometimes is you have to put more in. You have to add dialogue here. You have to expand a section there you have to at an Intro to this chapter or an exit or whatever you do have to put stuff in but more often than and not your taking stuff out your deleting words. You're altering things like I said entire chapters sometimes more than one and sometimes it can also take forever might the fourth book that I wrote called Uncommon started out as a vampire book. Okay Okay Ninety up. I wanted to write a story. Started out where there was this girl. And she was hitchhiking talking and she gets picked up by this guy who turns out to be a vampire and it was all about him having a familiar. who was a dog but it was written such that the reader did not know the familiar was a dog? It was written. That familiar sounded like it was a person and they wouldn't find out it was a dog until the end. Anyway I started out with his great idea and that was well on my way I was like thirty thousand words in which is quite a lot and my friend who is also made editor convinced me to change it and I. I don't know why I let her do that. To me was really mean when I think about it you know just to tell me my idea was crap and to start over again but I was. You know younger then more impressionable. Why did I listened to her and I started over and we took that book again? I was thirty thousand words. Ends talk about backtracking Scott like how do you get to a place where sometimes you have to let go way back in time and start over again. I did and it sucked and we spent the editing getting like a told you about Amman round seven of my book of Cemetery County Right now. We took seventeen rounds of editing for that book to be finished hole whole and that's after I was done writing it. Oh my goodness yeah. We don't start the editing process until the story is done so I had not only rewrite it but rewrite it to completion and and then spend seventeen times of going through the book in its entirety. Until it was done riddick just you basically rewrote the book. Look tiny increments. Yeah like I said. That process taught me a lot. That book was the first book that I wrote in present tense so there was a huge huge learning curve. There right so it taught me a lot in that regard. It also taught me that editing can be a good thing because again. The story only got stronger with each iteration Shane with each round. We went through the story stronger and stronger and stronger now. It's something that I'm proud of right. So it was worth it. If I kind of like childbirth go through these hanging and and it hurts like a son of a and then you come out the other end anyhow this gorgeous product. I appreciate that honesty and all. Yeah I mean 'cause how do you know till until you know like it's trial and error and it's a labor of love one hundred percent. Yep Well Jennifer thank you so much again for joining US tonight. And where can our listeners find you. I haven't had any signings not for lack of trying but I haven't done any signings. I'd have a book launch but it was private so nobody we found me there who didn't already know me and my website. It's really important for people to go there because there is another Jennifer Lea so I'll dishes so if you just go to Amazon search for Jennifer Lea. You're gonNA come with a whole bunch of books that I didn't right. Okay okay. That's good to know. Yeah so Jennifer Lee author Dot Com. com is my website. It has a page has my current five self published books plus the link to feeding. The Wolf has a blog which I publish about once every three to four weeks and also links to my twitter facebook fantastic and I in preparation for interview. I did read your blog and it is lovely great eight website to thank you very much. I don't get to the blog as often as I'd like but that's mostly because I forget your cheap. Is he creative in writing. I am too busy working on other stuff and dealing with my full time job and my husband and my two kids of my pets and my yes very busy I like it. You're you're my type of girl. Stay busy yes. That's nightly that. We don't get into trouble as neil extra say. Yeah this is sounding really familiar. Yeah running really feeling really seen right now all right Mr all right then. Well I guess we're going to let you go but thank you so much Jennifer for giving us an interview. It was an absolute pleasure and I'm sure this'll be something really exciting for a lot of maybe budding authors out. Thanks to hear your take on the process. Yeah I hope so on. Thank you so much for having me. It was super cool. The beat you guys and to be on I really appreciate it Wow that was interesting. Thank you again Jennifer Jennifer for that interview and without any more delay. Let's talk about spoilers. So I want to open up the spoiler section by saying that yes we do have a connection to Jennifer. Oh we have never met her prior to recording that interview. Yeah and yes. I was terrified to read and review this book. Having the connection that we have with her. She's a local author. Yes I was really afraid that I would not like this book. Of course Same Yeah and when I first started it I was still afraid I wouldn't like it's book Man Does this book just below expectations out of the water. A really it really did for me too and and I mean of course I was nervous about it but I was like well. You know like sometimes like that's the positive takeaway from a book is like this book is just not for me but I can tell you who this facebook is four but no I actually enjoyed it for myself as well. So that's always a really really nice. I don't know this is nice so so yeah. This book revolves directly around Taryn and his mental health issues in regards to him going off to war and losing losing men that he truly cared about and falling towards that darkness that starts with depression and anxiety and I an unwillingness for him to open up and turns into him becoming a crazy assassin will which is really bad ass us but not okay well right because he wasn't like dealing with stuff. Yeah he actually has a panic attack in. This book are few few but very refreshing again. I think that we are seeing shades of this in a lot of genre books were mental health is being addressed but especially especially when you think about our fantasy characters and the issues they go through all I mean they need help they only healers look at the things like look even my ferry books in my fairies or walking out to these things unscathed like no. They need help absolutely. And there's a lot out of books that definitely makes mental health part of the part of the character part of the the larger picture as far as an individual This this book T.. The the main the main driving point of the plot of the existence of this story the reason for it to exist is a exportation of the mental health of characters in a story. Such as this. Yeah I would say. Jennifer's biggest strengths is writing characters actors and Specifically writing a really well saturated lead. I think that that's a really really cool thing and really big compliment. We've talked about before generally speaking. We're really into character motivate at work as opposed to plot driven It's it's just really important for us. And this was no exception and I think the fact that she made a lead hero that you could really sink. Thank your teeth into and that you care about like you like you said like she does some kind of bad ass things and stuff. But then you're like this is like healthy. He is this really the way he wants to be living his life but he's not bad but he's not an angel and it was just very refreshing and even what what what I found powerful towards the end is all the choices that he made when he was going down that dark path or understandable and even justifiable liable. Oh sure but they were ultimately still not okay. Hey they were damaging to his soul. They were damaging you know legally uh-huh the good choices despite how well intentioned they seem to be and we'll yeah because I ki- rationalizes those decisions Asians and so like you're like Oh okay yeah I get it but then at the same time it's like Cisco them the ending did something that I know you and I have touched on and other books too that we really like where the characters the romantic to he and Amelia. They spend time apart and that is huge in a book when it's like they don't just go immediately together and then they're going to get married and La la La la La. It's like no. She has some stuff to work through stuff to work through and they take time apart from one another very healthy it is healthy. There is is something to be said that I actually quite enjoyed but the relationships in this book with the exception of Roffe in grace ah or you say Ravi Essay Rave I went back and forth in my head but I should have stuck with Rossi we should feel. I'm okay with my head cannon. I'm comfortable with it. With with the exception of their relationship with D.. which definitely does kind of go through like an ebb and flow and a slow build? A lot of the relationships are are set from a very early point in characters meeting and I actually was kind of okay with that because because it doesn't follow the standard you know. Writing Conventions of the relationships are what a story is built around and what the characters are built around in real life. You know how you feel about somebody pretty quickly into meeting. I guess that's true that's true I mean how many times is like do we just become best friends like like when you have those interactions with people. It's either like Oh yeah. This is a person that I met her. Oh this person that I'm friends with now. It's very quick for me. Everyone is is my best friend. Now what does that mean. Oh that's true but the the other thing is because it allowed the again the mental health development of Taron to become the main driving point and not the relationships of him with other people becoming the driving point and I actually found that kind kind of refreshing and the characters themselves are honest You know they're they're presented in their true sense from the get go. You know for a while. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop on other characters. Because I'm a very mistrusting person. When it comes to reading it could be after years of reading the books that we've been in reading? I kept expecting His sister the princess to to stab Greece in the back or the king or to find out that the king was really behind these horrible atrocities to these other nations which is why they were trying to invade and none of that stuff happens because these are these are the characters these are who these people are. They're generally kind people and they generally have for the most part healthy relationships relationships and expectations. I'll go into Greece and Taryn in a moment in that regards but I like that just that that that honesty st of character in everybody in this book it allowed me to focus on what was important. This really really good. Take away from that. Actually I think that there's there's something to that. And there's a quote that's often said originally Maya angelou quote and then Oprah uses it. A lot is in a lot and it's kind of paraphrase. I basically when people tell you who they are believed them. I love that quote me. Two and Scotland's unreliable narrator. And but I think I think we've just been an abuse still slow reader. It could be used and abused to go ahead. He went to talk about grace and turn okay. So the one exception to that is the the relationship between grace and Taryn is very complicated. It is In regards that there's there's very strong romantic question-mark feelings between the two of them in the beginning the two of them don't really understand the feelings they have for each other inches. Part of it Slightly slightly problematic. Yeah it is. It is a very unhealthy thing for someone who is in charge of someone not in charge but who is somewhat responsible for the healing of one's mental health to become romantically involved with that person and it's like they kind of like no so it though. Don't you think I felt that. Yeah but I didn't read that. Does that make sense. I think so because like they I think they just don't really know what they are in a lot of ways because there is a chemistry to them and then like grace is able to get him to taken up a bit. Yes and I can imagine that someone is really not used to talk about mental health. And it's supposed to be like this strong young macho guy that that could create a discomfort certainly and I think it's completely natural for someone who has gotten so so close to somebody that they know like they are one of the only people that know their their darkest secrets and in reverse. This is one of the only people I've ever told my darkest darkest secrets it's complicated like should we like she like hook up now. There's going to be strong feelings around that which is which is kind of a therapist. Dilemma from You know getting to attach exactly. Yeah and that's and that's a very real thing. I would have liked to have seen a little bit of of exploration into that particular subject Whether it be covered by by I mean it doesn't even have to be a guilty realty thing that addresses it would have would have been welcome by me. Yes I agree and a character that I actually really he liked was ray for Raffi. I think I think he was a really good complicated character. That was also kind of like take somewhere between lists. I'm supposed to be masculine. And this is like my bro. And then also like like this for this girl and there's almost like a I love triangle going on and the fact that he just really really wants to help Taryn so much There was a lot there era and I could've used more of his character and his exploration Rossi's my favorite character. Yeah I think he's probably mine too. I did want more of Roffe or Rafe. Like I love. I loved grace. Oh Yeah I really liked her perspective. Eleven million to I could've used more Rossi's perspective earlier on and continuing throughout I would've I would've been happy to see a three part split between those three characters because I thought that all three of them deserved spotlight. But you know it's funny because it kind of leads me back to my shakespeare comment where there's like a lot of Shakespeare plays there's Cadillac take these supporting characters. That's like you're actually really interesting. Though like you're Ben folios whatever like Rosencrantz and kill them. Stern I'm sure there are really but yeah like how did the same thing of like. I'm really interested in what you have to say. But this is in their air story but I could still but I still wanted more from them. So and that's where that's where ultimately like my my position on on the book and the where and I feel like the books position separate a little bit because I feel that I feel that the the main plot plot device in a sense is terrance mental health. And it's very important and powerful. Yes but I don't feel like it was his story not his and his alone. I felt like it was more the story of grace and Roffe. I I wanted it. I should rephrase this. I wanted to be the story of Roffe and grace uh-huh and the and the direction of the plot and the story to be driven by tarrant. Yeah and what ended up being was obviously more of a book just about Tehran. Yeah both in both in being his story and the plot. Yeah I I would love I I just for me this book doc was the story of grace and Roffe dealing with this poor this person. They share chaos. Yeah no I agree and I. I found their our relationships like I said this kind of a triangle triangle is like a trope. That doesn't quite fit here. It's more of an emotional emotional triangle and I it really would have welcomes more of that into the yeah. I would've been real happy with that. I really do like Amelia and I think she really added a Nice Punch to the story. Because I think that terron needed somebody that hasn't known him in the way those other two characteristed stood and I think that that was an important foil for him. Plus she's like the Robin Hood of like their area. That's cool I I liked. I light her character a lot. I wanted to actually talk a little bit about her character and Taryn combined at the moment when they met each other is the point when I said okay okay. I could cut the book right here and this is the beginning of my new. DVD campaign with the two main care. I mean they're near perfect. They're perfect to assassin slash rogue class characters he's multi classed into warrior and just uh-huh and just go out on adventures and be bad ass. Assassins I was down for that. Well you know we don't know where they're these characters are GONNA go. Oh Oh I don't think Taryn will ever kill again. I don't think they need to kill anybody. But maybe they need to do missions and stuff no. I don't think that he'll ever go out and do missions against I don't that's okay to say this like really sad though. I think that it was very important for this book to end with Taryn. Coming home home and being you know being human again and feeding the good wolf as Jennifer would put it. I think that that was that was where this book should have ended. Yeah but what I would cut off fifty pages for my dvd campaign. I see okay. You know he hasn't found that happiness yet he's still has the darkness in them and let's go kill a dragon and I think that you know if he ends up Kinda ruling the kingdom. I think that a meal be a really good person for him them to have in his corner I mean obviously there romantically involved but she could almost be like a senator or something like I mean I get the idea that she would be. The Queen. Queen agreed agreed. She I think the three of them Amelia Roffe and grace would ultimately ebby his counsel. Yeah and I think that the four of them combined make a very good leadership system. Yeah and kind kind of hand in hand with mental health there's vulnerability to that is very appealing in these characters especially interns arc. Because vulnerability vulnerability is something that I've struggled with in my life but it's important to be vulnerable so that other people can be vulnerable to you and that's like a lesson that I took away hugely from this book. I agree with you. Ultimately vulnerability is the the magic of the healing of the story. Yeah so you know the only way any of them can be you know can be happy in this story is to be vulnerable to someone else. Grace has to be vulnerable to herself in a mid her own feelings and explore her own feelings roffe has to be a vulnerable to grace and admit his feelings to her. Taryn has to be you. You know I mean Taryn has to be vulnerable to somebody. Anybody ends up being Amelia and Amelia's the same deterrent. It's it's Amelia. Teaches teaches that to Tehran very very very very true. Okay guys I think it's time to give this one a execution. I'll go. I know you you go first. Oh I go for yeah you go I see how many moons out of five okay. I think this book is incredibly unique and inventive in the way that it approaches which is mental health issues. And I think that it's incredibly brave to put it into a fantasy setting. I think that Jennifer does a really good job of treating reading those issues with respect as I said. There's a few slightly problematic areas that that that just you know scratched me a a little bit wrong But ultimately I can vary much. Forgive those because of the way this was approached. I'm going to give this. I'M GONNA give four moons out of five. I think that it was a fantastic. I think that it's inventive. And unique and I think that it should be read. ooh I really love that I think I think you've really Sir Mayes this book very well this episode and I don't know why I sound shop but I am. Yeah really affected me. It's because we've done a lot of horror recently and that's more your wheelhouse to explain. Maybe that's true been kind of in that mindset. I agree I think. The book is just very brave and very compassionate and interesting and very introspective for a lot of people. Hello and I just have a lot of admiration for its source. So that having been said I am going to also give it for moons Out of five though. I'm still waiting for middle grade. Where Wolf Book you know we don't you don't think we usually agree on the four on the four level right usually usually? It's I mean this that which just stands to how good this book is. How how interesting this book is? Yeah I think this book opened up Parme minds and our perspectives as readers and reviewers in a little bit of a different way that neither of us were expecting and that is very compelling to me and it'll be something I think about quite a bit all right everybody. The Yuletide is upon us or as I like to call it. Christmas straightness Goffman also acceptable. But most importantly you'll Christmas and GRANDPA's time campus time so I guess like we said earlier. Thank you all for being amazing listeners and followers and for reading books anybody that reads books your a fricken hero. Never Stop we love. You guys love you so much. 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Ep. 5: Olaf and the Animators

Inside Frozen 2

30:46 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 5: Olaf and the Animators

"And this episode of inside frozen to what's Nice is we know these characters and they're able to push them further. You spend so much time building. A character like thick almost become like your kids away Jersey and I am coming to you from Disney animation studios the mothership inside inside the room where the actors actually recorded their dialogue for frozen to. We're going to talk with Wayne Onto Supervising Animator Elsa and frozen one and two and frozen twos Co head of Animation Becky Z.. But I the movie explores some darker even Richard themes that are not necessarily represented presented in children's or family films all the time we sit down for a talk with the Lovable Snowman Olaf himself. Josh Gad right here on inside frozen goes into inside frozen to is brought to you by Ashley Homestore this is home. So we're here with Josh Gad. Along with my producer Samantha. And I've seen it twice so twice already twice in it. Is it just me or does it even get better the second time much and have weird right. It is and the first time it was before it came out so I was because I was doing this. I got see. See it. And we're sitting there. And they told us that they're still making little tweaks even. And then when you say Samantha Samantha know now is the man. She's with me. And her name is Samantha and we were like did they do that is he gonNa Change that person. I was literally like there will be an interview. Where Samantha will be standing near and I need to honor that who is Samantha? Though in your life that is for me to know and you'd never find out what was so funny is that entire sequence was just me being an idiot in the booth where I had this crazy idea in the script scraped it was just Olaf is searching frantically for on an Elsa in the woods and then I just looked at them and I go don't cut I'm GonNa do something a little crazy and I just started like saying random names Sheila's and the fact that it made the final cut just made me so happy because I I had no reason to believe that they would ever spend millions of dollars animating a sequence in which I literally say characters name. WHO's not in the mood? But it works and so much so that even up until the you know that she was telling me Jennifer was telling us about the changes that come and when that one of those last scenes scenes that was done was just setting you in a room. And letting you go about the frozen one recap that was. That was really late into the game. I mean that was about three months before the movie came out. They had this brilliant idea and they unleashed me. And you know credit to Jennifer Lea. Chris Buck are brilliant directors but also to the animation team for making that sequence so unbelievably funny an so brilliantly executed in such a short amount of time. So good and I'm I'm going to say because I told her right away. I said that's the best part of the movie. And she's like well. That's one of the last parts that was done was literally one of the last part of that whole would seem explaining how she wasn't quite happy with the the connections and the transitions and there you came on the job. I mean you've done it. Also for the last what five years describing what presidents basically. It was just one long interview now. Are you the one that suggested killing all off or is that that was spoiler alert. Well this is for serious fan. Greg Turk no you know that was that was always a part of the movie when my first recording recording was that sequence and it was actually originally even more I think in Henson more emotional and I couldn't get through recording it without crying Jennifer and I were both balling In the midst of recording that sequence. And it's so beautiful so beautifully executed. Although I will say when I saw the first time with my kids my a little one looks at me and she goes did that just happen and they said yes and before I could say anything else started bawling rolling and I was like yeah but it is also this is the beauty of this film is that it grew up with all of the rest of the kids who loved it in the original and it does have that more mature feeling. It has that kind of an I love that part of it. I think that's why I connected and I think that you know it was really important to all of us to make sure that the movie grew with our audience You know I think that kids don't WanNa be talked down to and I think the movie explores some darker even richer themes that you know are are not necessarily represented in children's or family films all the time time and I applaud our team for doing that and and the response has been through the roof. You know kids do want to be challenged. I think that we're seeing that first hand and to grow L. With Olaf because offs grown up a lot in this oh big time olaf has become a little bit if it was cholera in the first film. He's a more mature child now and with that comes these existential questions and yet change. Mocks us with her beauty. Forgive me maturity is making me poetic. Tell me me you're older and does all knowing. Do you ever worry about the notion that nothing is permanent and you know it was interesting because right before we started filming my oldest child Ava who was five. At the time she came she was at the Dinner Table One night and she's was so happy and then out of nowhere. She started crying and she said what. If I don't WanNa grow up some what if I never want to be a grownup and it just hit me so hard and I actually actually caught on tape and shared with Chris. Jen and I think you know they so brilliantly captured that thing in each of us as kids where we realized that life life isn't always going to be a rainbows and lollipops and roses. Sometimes it's going to be difficult right and it's GonNa be challenging and I think that's the nice part that even for for your child but also for me for you for all of us. We asked US questions of ourselves and of life pretty often and frozen to does that for us or one hundred percent. But it's still. Oh you flurry right back into existence. I'm so happy and goodness thank goodness 'cause that would've been a rough and then if we talk about it just the the is collaborative every single person. We've spoken to Chris Bach and all of the music. I mean we were with the Lopez's for two episodes of this because it's that stunning or so brilliant but all off song this time May just what we were just speaking about. I mean you're going to get it later right right. What's so brilliant about that song as the audience is ahead of the joke? You know they know that. OL- office not crazy all fence. This man said they know that that once he's older these insane things that are happening. All around him won't make any more sense than they do. And I think that that's the brilliance of what bobby and Kristen managed to capture all of their songs. A certain truth. A certain certain comedic impulse that is so beyond. I think what anybody expects whether it's a song like in summer where the audience knows that this characters basically walking into his own demise possible welcoming summer or song like Or Song like his song in the sequel will when I'm older and I think that the joy for me of working not only with them on frozen into but also working with Bobby I'm book of Mormon is is that at this point they know my voice inside and out and they know exactly how to write for it. If warm hugs was the iconic statement that Olaf makes in unfrozen what is his iconic statement of frozen to seems to be Samantha. I mean and I kind of like the movie's been out one weekend and people are coming up to me. All at the time. And going Samantha. And it's like Oh doesn't have quite the same ring. No events warm hugs but here. We are No I imagine that was it because I couldn't think of what it would be but hey it'll take on its whole. I'm sure there'll be merchandise. I'm sure that I don't don't even know US Samantha is going to be on t shirts very shortly to name my barbies for that too. So let's let's wrap it and just make sure you know that. Of course you've impacted millions of children and I would love to know a story from your personal experience where the frozen effect has like surprised prized you. Are we shortly after. The first movie came out Kristen Bell and I went to Children's Hospital Los Else Angeles and we were you know. Usually when when stars of movie go there dressed up as their characters and and and you know they like superheroes and we walked in on. These kids aren't going to cynic and we opened our mouths and to see the impact on these children and their parents and what this movie has given them the joy that it's given them was so unbelievably impactful. And you know there. There isn't a moment over the course of the last six years where somebody hasn't come up to me and said that at a very difficult point in their life Something from frozen spoke to them in a way that really impacted their lives. You know nothing more so than obviously the message of let it go and I think to be able to see how that has prevented people from literally taking their own lives to embracing the possibilities through immense challenges. It's been such a gift to be a part of a film. At now a franchise that gives people hope and so that that would be the biggest takeaway the biggest Pride that I can see it and I can hear it in your voice. So thank you for doing this with us and I'll just go ahead and do it for you because at D. Twenty-three you six times interview said because we're doing frozen three. You're in the second one thank you. Thank you up next. It's not just josh coming in a room at living a bunch of things but you've got to put animation to that and we get to talk to the people who make these characters actors. Come to life. We are with frozen to animators wayne onto and Becky Z.. Next on inside. Frozen to Ashley Homestore can help you. Don't feel merry and bright all year long. Are you looking for the perfect gift. Well whether it's for a loved one or even yourself this holiday season make your house feel more like Home Ashley. HOMESTORE head in store or visit Ashley. HOMESTORE DOT COM Ashley Homestore. This is home. Thank you so much for sitting sitting down with us. This is going to be a lot of fun. The animation is just I mean I expected a lot and it surpassed it so congratulations. Thank here and I know the first thing to the very very easy things that I was of course knowing that I was going to speak to you I was watching on else's dress. The jewels glimmer. Down to the end of the dress Samantha and I my producer. Were noticing the water droplets and thinking. Those are things that had to have taken a lot of care. What something you think that people are now? They've seen it have maybe missed notes. Funny like when we're in dailies animated shows their shots and there are so many moments of that like if you you watch the film and you see something in the background like. There's so much Karen thought put into even like background characters but a lot of times. You know it's something that the audience it's really wouldn't be looking at there's so much entertainment there so when you watch it for the third fourth fifth time look for those background kind of glances or yeah and that's just within animation. Sean our department you know if you think of all the other little details that are put in by all the different departments that really kinda creates us very rich rich movie that you can enjoy over and over and still still find new things about it and so when I'm watching and again truly I don't understand how it's made so we can we just start there like how does else's hand or foot move that way like wh- what is doing that. I know that you both work different ways. Where one of you is Kind acting things out in another. Is You know video versus drying the new research but explain that part and from from soup to nuts. How does it work back? It's kind of like a puppet in the computer digital puppet say if we have shot that where signed and then we're doing the performance side of it will do the research flake okay. HOW DOES THIS FIT in overall story in the sequence story we think about the characters who is this character? How the character move What's going on the character's head at that moment all of that And we issued by the directors You know so that they can tell us what they would like to see in the shrine as well so we do our homework first and then we go to explore like how we would do the shot so like Becky would you like to do you. Video reference so so you yes and that's part of the joy of my job. Actually I love. I love doing that. Sometimes it's silly and you don't often at all show these things to anybody because a bunch of strange videos on phone I am. I do absolutely fun. Is that like you know. Even unrepentent My husband was flint. He's very excited about that. And and Bolt. My dog was bolt puppy and my cat made appearance of big hero six. So we're always we're always gonNA taking the things from our lives and from life in general and trying to Bring beloved believability to our characters. Using those little truce that you find in ears are truly like your expressions would be found particularly in ANA in sometimes sometimes and we also have Video Voice Actors doing their lines. And you you know. They're in a very small area so they can't you know Imo as probably they would unstaged or In the movies and then you're drawing yes But sometimes you know I'll I still will look at You know I'll I'll act it out maybe in front of the mirror so see like what I'm doing a lot of times like L.. Might close my eyes and like act out the gesture if I do video reference and I'm not against video reference. I think it's great. It's just when when I video myself in my head. It looks and then when you look at the video so they have We our offices offices they have big windows and and even frozen one a becky was in We have what they had like a little house. It was like a office. This was like a house and they had a window and you could like walk. Survey was acting out something and it was just like standing in the window. is she going to see. Select like Beco- Saints Embarrassing Sometimes But yeah no I like to Acted out in front of America. And then just feel it out and then I'll l. do a quick sketch and Alec Thumbnail Small drying it's not about like a detail drawing you don't spend a lot of time on it but just to capture the gesture until you get that feeling. And that's what would you say Matt. Our producer was saying. Makes you ask about that. Because he was feeling Elsa when she would put her hand out her leg in that swoop Oh he felt that I won't let anything happen to her. So you did it right Beth. Being felt but that the intention right the intention of the movement movement or where the feeling yeah even with the video reference you. Don't you're not doing the reference to copy you. What reality would because UMASS fall onto it and my actions if you're going to do so what you're doing is you're taking? The main poses are expressions. Like little things that you do that might breathe truth into the character and what we're doing is playing around with timing and I'm really trying to push into the feeling of what you want the character to be thinking and feeling affecting life choreographers in a way right taming editing too. 'cause like with live action and there's nothing you know. I don't have anything against motion capture. That's that's more for the live action special special effects. What we do is more caricatured? meaning that like. Say if there's like jitters on like a fingertip or something like that well does that add add to the pose or the what the POS represents it's kind of like the goal impose. What's it called imposed in this film? Something strong this bold that there's oppose was it may even carry the shot. Yeah I was GonNa say sometimes you live with an oppose. Some of the shots in this movie as you know are very long and very subtle I the next right thing And sometimes you're acting with an opposing in just doing little movements that mean so much in dark comedian you know now everything constantly trying to improve. We're we're always constantly trying to learn. Do you think it's like Jennifer mentions the collaboration she thinks. That's just has gotten better where it's not so say like on the side of them mation building it says animation but it really should be like collaborations because again we do on this movie in particular we had a few new characters that were really collaborative between departments. And I think that that was one of the big Challenges on this film. For for instance the water knock and Gail. It's funny because in this podcast. This is after the film has allowed to talk about it. So you can say in interviews that we've done like prior to the film's please. We can't talk about certain things and Ah yes and we can't talk about these things. There's there's a moment of dark see where Elsa is running on the water. It's a challenge because I see have also running on water waters move. Yes and but before that everything is made up again like I said like it's nothing exists so I have The Effects Department doing water simulations to try to get the water looking right when she's running on the water now that displaces the water it splashes and the snowflakes uh-huh flakes that she's running on. It's like a chicken and egg thing now then. The simulation has to be run again even though it did seem like how this is like an extra step than what we normally do. Ah How cool is that. We've never done this before it's fine. So that's one of the places where you go somewhere new where it's kind of that and I imagine that had had to be one of the most challenging scenes. But do you worry that people just expect too much now the water's gotta move every time. Are you guys doing good. We're always trying to push it on. Then it's where the story has it. You could have intense moment where nothing's happening and but you know it's it's really about the storytelling. Yes yes Wayne likes to meet people crying so you kill what happened. Because I'm trying to in each of these cats I'm going to ask is that you know but is there anything gotta be so hard but I can't imagine you don't feel this way. Is there anything you still. It's out in your hands now but wish you could go back and just put one more final touch on. Everyone probably feels that way. Like it's one scene. You could tell us or something specific that you. It's I think it's a personal thing. I mean to your personal. Yeah like liking. I know some animators they would say. Oh I wish I it's perfect. Yeah we're guilty of it too like we. We work on animation shots. And you know it's like I wish I could tweaks but like it's there's this point where it's like you gotta let it go like it comes up in every interview. Don't worry happens every time. How many hands would you say touch else's hand before we see it like how many actual people I you got to think about okay from the beginning? There's the person who did the storyboards and you know I mean even action. Yeah even Jan the writer. Yep So Then it goes into storyboards and then the layout which is the camera work opposing that in staging it and then. Then there's animation the nation but even before animations the pre production side the other visual development artists Who are coming up with the design and like tweaking bat and then there's the look artists who are doing like the textures and all of this work that going that goes into on that front than there's a character? Td's who who put like the bones in what was modelled by the modeling department and then from there it's the hair in the cloth and relating and so does a now. I'm I'm trying to think because OLAF is a bit more I mean he has a lot of movement and his butt in his body. There's not muscles so you don't have to do that part. I guess that much with you do muscles Olaf has muscles. It's absolute. I'm just living the dream on. Oh not little muscles but like something that drives a shape when he's pointing to Ana right exactly what his arm so like the shapes that are formed or even like an eyelid There's a a a pivot point where that rotates from but then there's also the the shape of the lid and the way that the nets skin but it's about flesh but snow but how that would deform and Smile if when a character smiles pushes so it has to do and his chief. So there's a lot of work that goes into and for him in particular he can come come apart. So there's a whole design on how that could I know the rearrangement. Yep Yeah when you saw the final product did any part not that you've forgotten about it but anything surprise you like. Wow we did that. Is there one part that you're just so proud of show yourself was one of them Where her you know we talked about? What Holland would look like and then to finally see it like in color and rendered? You're not always saying things in color. Coloring happens later the lighting. It's always a fun moment to see a shot in final lighting. You spend so much time building the character or helping you you know with like say the rig or like so much detail on every facial you know pose in the building all of that and spending time with the character they almost become like your kids away and she went through a lot in the first one and I my heart goes out to her and then like you're now seeing how she is in the second film and then ensure yourself. She's so happy and I was so happy for like I'm GonNa cry but Yeah no I know. It's not real real but it is fuel for them and there have to be moments like that where you get so invested and maybe you know you have something that and I asked this of the composer's there's an here. Chris had a great way of telling me but there are things that don't make it that have to be redone. The get cut and you just have to truly let go right. I mean just have to to say who. How was it this time? Because it's like now the family evolved that we see on screen. But it's also your family has evolved Working with Jenin Chris. How has that changed? Touted the relationships all I feel like just as the characters Kinda go on this journey and find out new things about themselves liquids. Mesa's we know with these characters and able to push them in. You know push them further. I feel like we know our team and and we already were family league of sorts and it was just nice to get back together and kind of push push more with him to Becky. What's the biggest myth about what you do? The biggest myth about why I mean like you go to a cocktail party and nobody knows that you work at Disneyland. Maybe one yeah that the computer animates for you know. The computer wants to do the worst job. Possible the computer actually. It's like autocorrect acknowledge. Yeah there are humans doing it right. You are one of those humans yes yeah so we don't just set golden poses and then tell the computer to animate for us we are actually touching almost every frame of the movie To try to push the emotion into these characters Turner's and if you're telling so now this person at the cocktail party is a student and they say but I just want to do what you do. What are you say so just studying life? Yeah I heard word this podcast. I was listening to There's a creator out there. Rebecca Sugar Who I admire? She was talking about something Her brother like he didn't know how to draw camera what it was but he didn't know how to drive things like a bird flapping wings or something like that and so he just did it. He and I think that's probably what I would encourage. And that's what I'm trying to do in my life as well like with things that I've never done before like he's scared. Yeah Yeah so if I want to get better at like say walk cycles animation than do a walk cycle and do a bunch of and fail and learn and grow. Is there like a personal moment or something that you've had an anecdote from the the the original that touched you that you are work you saw you know doing something to someone Can you tell us about that experience. yeah I mean the story that we told them the first frozen what the characters go through I'm just speaking for also You know what she goes through what she feels like. I feel like it's very relatable and like to hear stories From people who who say. Oh yeah you know that spoke to me and I love that like We created a film. We create a movie but then to hear like how it actually actually touch someone and made them think a certain way like and help them. Maybe from a difficult situation and I. That's just amazing. I think that's an important part of our job. I think I know. Well you both have kids So what what is there feel that you are now eight years deep with yeah Well they they felt connected to the first movie because I use them as research For the young and Elsa and I just think and it's it's pretty cool and that the sign into the unknown came out my daughter immediately picked it up and now it's all over my house and I they felt very connected to these characters just same very similar so my daughter's right now are ten and eight and my kids were little. The first film came amount and again like kind of model you know something looked at how honor would move and like so little honor when they were building Olafur the first time and hire more in the way that ANA jumps off the chair from my daughter doing that and like you know some things things that they don't know they don't know these things but like I would just look like you know what watch them you know playing together. And I'm like that's really cool. I'm going to remember that. The little like just personalities to name must be so proud like at their essential milk chocolate cocktail party. And they're like my parents work on unfrozen. I think I'll tell my daughter. Maybe when they're older some of the things that I saw because I think it's a little bit more emotional things like but like like something hard that she was going through in like was like. Oh Hey you can do it. But I think maybe later in life when they're a little older and and they have a better grasp of what it was that I was seeing that they were struggling and then like how that kind of made its way into Salesa like hurt hurt you know specifically anxiety thing and so like yeah I. I don't know if they know right now. Like how much a part like a big part of them in like certain things that I've animated but like it's one day I'll never write down so you don't forget I feel like I've learned a lot today. I WanNa thank you both so much because this is going to be really special for people listen to and get started because frozen threes. Got To happen all right. Thank you can't so many things to Johnson and Bekker's e they are geniuses. Don't know that I fully understand but maybe I shouldn't. Maybe we just take in the magic that his animation and of scores thank you to Josh Gad. To wow the almost clarified for us. The mystery of Samantha inside frozen to is a production of ABC. 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Local Hour: Our Dream Job

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

38:47 min | 9 months ago

Local Hour: Our Dream Job

"Stugatz here advance auto parts has ended A. Winner to their roster diehard batteries about that. That's right. Diehard batteries are now in advance auto parts, and if you're a staff free like me, you know that means advance got a player with unrivalled reliability, durability and power, plus you can get free testing and free installation with purchase, and you don't even need an appointment. Advance your auto at advance, auto parts and participating carquest locations see stores for details. Boys were here. It's Friday and I have to admit before we get started at Noma, little low energy, and usually come in strong on the Friday but I did this thing. I know we've talked about this before. Thursday's just feels easier to stay up. It doesn't feel like a weeknights land. Look really really yeah, you. Do you look drain? Dude, you kind of sound, not nuts. Because, I not GonNa lie I hopped out of bed. About I was on my phone like doing stuff for work but I have to my bed about five minutes before. We hopped on here so here we are, we're here. It's shipping container talking to you on a Friday. With you on a Friday, come on, man! Were you guys up late last night? Had you guys handle your Thursday night? I was I wasn't up that late? I'm trying to think I'm so I have this thing where my wife says that I fall sleep within five minutes hitting my pillow so sometimes I don't even remember getting into bed like I'll lay down, but my phone to charge all of a sudden amount, and then I wake up in seven o'clock in the morning so. I I went to bed at like maybe eleven thirty, but I wasn't doing anything special Kinda laying around perusing twitter and the normal things. What is late because you're saying? You fell asleep, but I'm wondering what late means to you because for me late late is like. Probably a lot different than you like. If I'm up, yesterday probably went to sleep close for me. That's pretty late in. That's like a third day. Thing. Okay, it's Thursday. Let the hair down the game, but I'm wondering leaders you because you're late in my late seem to be different because you have a totally different like energy about you today that I do so. I think we have different late. Sh! I think I turned off the PS to earn a PS. Four. Yeah, no, no, I. Don't have ps four. I turned off my PS. Three at about one forty five. I think wow. That that! Football late night, Hong! I'm already in season my in two thousand and twenty three or something I'm I'm thinking I need to leave Ohio state. I think I've done all I can do their why talk show host! The best team in two thousand fourteen. The coaching Carousel is crazy in in that game. You don't have a lot of time like when he goes when you're selecting your options. Are you gotTA decide? Quick and excuse seasons back, or you're willing as coach. Yeah, I'm doing like the whole recruiting thing and like. Copying Yeah, but I'm not I'm not. Here to say just doing it myself I'm here to say. That I was. Prior to any of these people that are doing cool stuff with streaming I was doing this way before okay when I lived in Connecticut by myself I had no friends I had nobody right. I would sit down and play. NCW Two, thousand, thirteen, or two, thousand, twelve whatever I have and do the same. Thing, he's doing obviously twitch in the streaming, and stuff wasn't around in two thousand sixteen, or at least wasn't too time or to the technology that we're doing it now, but I'm here I was I there. I just didn't get the credit. Were you I that play games. Exactly I was playing video game. I DIDN'T WANNA. Be The guy that said it, but I'm pretty sure lots of people play video games. No, not like me. You've created them. You created franchise mode that's. Basically was one of the pioneers in making this something that you went back to plate right? 'cause we were in two, thousand, seventeen, twenty, eighteen at that time. No, it was playing games from two thousand twelve like that wasn't a thing. I was the first one to go back in time back to the future and play those video. I just didn't record it, but I was through a thirty year a franchise mode in like three years. Donated year. The EMINEM Kid Cudi's song. I haven't yet I'm going to check it out. I'm not so Mike. I'm not a huge eminem Guy Wall. Yeah, I'm not a huge eminem Guy I'm gonNA. Listen to it. I like obviously kid. Cudi's I think made a really nice resurgence after kids see ghosts and he came out with doesn't seem like you like either of them too much well. I don't know I I love. Cut Him saying. He had a big resurgence after kids see ghost because that. That was actually a decent album. The stuff you put up for wasn't that great, but so I'm here to say and I'll take all the all the shift for it. I'm not a huge guy. Just growing up I just didn't I didn't buy with him Kid Cudi's to me as a casual rap fan, because you're like really into the rap and I like rap and I like. The rap, but a like you know all like the robbers and I know just like the famous ones, but kid cutty like when I came out, kids see goes like. That was like this I had never heard anything like that like he's his own thing to me. Like in the hip hop world kid cudi's has a sound that I've always really liked. Keep cut even more than actually and you can. You can say here. a him a and you know it's kid cutty ride like that and then all of a sudden. It's like Oh. Damn, Kid Cudi's sorry I didn't even know Yeah, he's he's. A really interesting figure in the in the music in the hip hop community because. He was almost one of those guys. That really almost I to this mental health. awakening because he had a lot of demons that kind almost derailed his music career in a sense, because there was you know obviously on the moon man on the moon to and he started coming out with mister like all of these different projects afterwards, and then he kind of fell off and I think it was fame and money and prestige, and all that stuff really gets you. And he was one of the first guys. Come out and say look guys. This is an easy being famous to being rich, and being wanted twenty, four seven and having drugs available in all twenty. Seven isn't easy like I. Don't think anybody understands. That life is until you finally break through and make it, and then just all the drugs or they are, and you're like. Oh, I might as well this right, and then it just. Tales your entire career, so it's been a really nice research for him I'm glad he's gotten the help he needs, and and definitely back on the right track soundtrack to soundtrack to my life classic dude a Banger. There's a tie that whole man on the moon like mix tape album were were fire. Everything was awesome. It was basically the soundtrack to the senior of of High School for me like when? When that came out? It was like all right. That's it like whenever this is like. This is some of the greatest stuff we've ever agreed. So I have a little soft spot in my heart for kid cudi's purposes, but I'm gonNA. Listen to it, not check it on knowledge. You know so, if ice back if I have a hard spot in my in my heart for something that like I. I! Don't like them like you should get a check down. Yeah, probably. I don't know if you should have anything hard in there. What is dream job? Oh, I didn't asking. Yeah, what would you go there? Well a couple of things so I was thinking about this A couple of days ago and I wrote it down. We just haven't gone to for whatever reason and you were talking about how you think you're done with your work at Ohio state so as I you know what's a fictitious coach's dream job or just? You know Chris. Cody's dream job. You know growing up like I'll give you an example. When I, you know. got into the media guests rate. Or like kind of growing up saw the mediums like this looks fun this whatever right? You know, someone that I always respected that. I feel like doesn't get enough respects get. Kinda gets mocked and whatever? Ryan seacrest I see Ryan's depressive. I'm like man. It's gotTA. Be Great to be Ryan seacrest right a host these shows. He has a thousand things going on radio. TV New Year's Eve this stat. Basically there was a time in history. When if you needed a host? It was Ryan seacrest right. But Also realize. I don't exactly have the charisma of a Ryan seacrest. I don't have the Ryan seacrest energy I can't welcome America in from their couch and get them involved in whatever it is that I'm doing. I just don't have that. Genocide Kwa. You know so said I don't know I. Don't know what the next step is because I've kind of accepted at this point. I don't think that I'm GonNa be the next Ryan seacrest, right and. Every day that comes I get older, and it seems less and less likely that I'M GONNA? Be Ryan seacrest in that. You know the next American idol or expecter whatever it is is going to come calling and be like. Hey, we need you to be the guy that introduces the future talents of America to America. Some kinda stuck right now. I think it's I don't know that it's time to scrap the plans to rip up the blueprint at I don't. Know that it's that time yet, but I feel like we're getting close right so I'm wondering what your guys may be dream job as like someone that you wanted to be that. You thought this could be me and that you know how we're going to get there. How are we? How the three of US going to get there? I just had a thought for you before. I get my dream job. What about because you're a big challenge guy? What about hosting the challenge? Wow, on ice, middle ground of being a Ryan seacrest with being in a fun world like you know you're saying you want me I, mean that's that's blasphemous. Well bike. Bike or do they have hosting this season like a dare you. It's Tj, Lavon just like it has been for twenty of the thirty five seasons, and you want me to go and take TJ Lavenham out. Let's be real, okay. And I think not to get too to the challenge. Getting a lot of people don't like the challenge. Trust me, I'm aware guys I. Know a lot of you. Don't like the challenge, okay? I feel like that job is already set up for Johnny Bananas to take when he retired from the challenge right because he's been doing it forever, so. We'll see. He's had a decent season once again to take this away from. Tip from our dream jobs back out I. saw sorry, my daughter's in the background. That they had a rating surge this season, I saw big article yesterday, someone laugh. If the if the number one challenge podcast is taking any credit for the ratings surge. This season should be I. Mean I'd say much like Tony invented video games. We invented the challenge right so video games. You know going back to video games. I guess that's more of what I invented than anything. Yeah, but I see. I can see Billy Kristen. Tell me if I'm wrong. Here I. MAY BE I may be way off. I can see billy as the next iteration for Chris Harrison on the Bachelor on the Bachelor series, billy can be. They're very concerned Oh, my God. Are you okay? Like here's here's the first set of ladies. Use The first set of gentlemen that are coming out and you're GonNa meet your husband or your wife tonight like I see billy. In the Chris Harrison will vary vary perfectly. I, I appreciate that. Thank you. I would say that. My biggest downfall on I've noticed is that. Just the way that I talk. My general tone have noticed, and it's not the case, but I've noticed it seems to lack sincerity. Lake I tried like if I could be excited I don't really. I seem to struggle in going from kind of monotone too excited to like concern too happy to see rain. Yeah, there's not it seems like. Rain might be an issue with me. You know so like I like Oh my God. Tell me more, and they're like you're just being sarcastic. No, I'm actually interested in. It's just you know I can't. Do I go to Lake Zuid, hosting coach that I could go to like I. Don't let others acting school like who coach and then yeah, and then I wonder who could be maybe like my my hosting mentor, right like. Should I find hosting mentor that teaches me like how to become. You know the person that America can say. Hey, that's the guy that you know. He's just like me. I I I feel like it's just billy that like I feel like Chris. Harrison is more similar to you than you give off, he does. Kinda keep it even Keel like I. Think the only quote you love. Love is really the only mall. That's actually really good. It's a good point. I mean I wouldn't consider myself anti love. Right I I. How? Real of though we're talking about real love. FIGURE OUT IF I love love or if I, just like love a lot, you know a love is a strong word. I'm not sure if I'm ready to label my feelings for love as love if that makes sense, no. It's just a big commitment to say I love. Love some trying to figure out. Let me get back to you on that one. Let me think about if I'm ready to commit to love or if I just really like love and I. Don't want to take my feelings for love to the next level. Auto policy from state farm gets you collision coverage and this radio ad from state farm coverage of this beloved nineties hits who to call. Call. ME. Is, gone! 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A little bit more of a of another level, another echelon, another deterrent another D in there every dime, yeah! Dives and something something we'll figure something good something good, but that'd be my dream job. Just go around the country to and around the world. Really two different places try food and talk in front of a camera. I felt like when I was trying to figure what I wanted to do. I was always drawn to like billion like all of us that are in this profession like radio. TV like that museum is really interesting to me so the ability to do both things that I. Love is like be on camera and also talk and eat food. I feel like that is fine. My dream job. You know who I think has kind of similar energy to me. and not like a big lake You know like disciple of this person so I haven't seen a ton of his work. stuff that I've seen. Is Chris Hardwick type right like he's kind of a similar energy, but he's more well. Put together nine. Dresses all fancy schmancy. He's got some you know. Put together here. Billy we can always fix the aesthetic right like the aesthetic is not the problem. We throw you in a Nice Armani suit. Comb the hair back. We'd put some contacts your America's sweetheart. That's not the problem. All you gotTa do is work on your range on your tone I like. If you get a coach, you can become the next Chris. Harrison, you could be the next Ryan seacrest by the way Little Nugget Ryan. SEACREST executive producer creator of keeping up with the Kardashians. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Hasn't. He has got everything empire like everything everything I forgot who it was. We got someone the other day. Man who was Oh. This was so we were doing a thing for who are doing things for the challenge podcast right I. think that's what it was. I don't know we book someone right and I was dealing with them, and it seemed like some like random. Like just the show I think it was for cannonball. which is the MRS new show just how we got him on the thing. and. The company is a Kriss Production Company, and it's like a sugar has an absolutely. Chris is not there has to do with. He's just built his empire where he's pumping out the car dash shows. Like every show on ESPN that I'm trying to figure out is very cavalieri. I don't think that that's that's Ryan seacrest production. He hosted. He hosted all the Disney plus sing alongs that I've been watching. US, yeah duties, just the Evans, these everywhere is not the every man he's got. He's worthless hundred million dollars exactly I. think that I mean look I think that he sold his house to L. Great. Ellen ellenbogen his house and you're assuming when you're Ryan seacrest. You're probably not downsizing right. So, what did he buy? Like? Did he by the Taj Mahal by some ridiculous castle somewhere? Where does he live now if he decided you know what I've outgrown the House that Ellen is building up to. That seems crazy to me. was next on the list. Own that house like it can't. It can't be billy. Gillard Chris Cody. It's the next I. didn't like you know what I mean like that's. That's crazy Tony be worked on your catchphrase yet for. Guy He has ungodly Eddie were rolling out. Guy, like I'm Tony and we're. Hungry. Oud Yeah Yeah. Yeah? We got to figure out what that is Did. You Steal Tony Tigers Line, and just like you eat something like that. Yes, you'd probably get sued. I would assume probably probably I think I think Kelly hasn't really good handle on again. It's great on TV or radio or anything. That's such a generic statement. Though like I can't say that's great. I WOULD IF I. Can say that's great. I just can't extend our great like if you take great and pass certain length than they're like that's arts. Who how about this? How about if you just Kinda go with rhyming, but the same tone rape as we've discussed not the one to give you the tonal advice right, but you just kinda say like. Tony I eight. Right and that's how you leave the restaurant every time I like it I like. The thing is the thing is guy. He's got like a bunch of different things too right. He's like always like those cheese fries. Gangster, right? That's out of bounds flavor like yeah. I'm that this is the the lake in flavor town. This this melted cheese on these nachos is the is the stream flavor cuts out of bounds. That's a big. Bounce? He'd loves out of bounds he loves. You know. Flavor town has ladies the mind waiver town. Saying like if you look at flavor town there sidelines, and you could go out of bounds in flaming town. Yes, yes, it's think of it as a parade. You have the you have the. Town but let's go to imagine imagine main street in in in Walt, Disney right. You're walking down main street. They got the parade going on Guy Fatty. The mayor of the town is on his own float. Doing his own thing, he's saying those cheese, fries or gangster. That's out of bounds and you've got the barricades and people are watching the parade go by. You got like a nice. We'll cheese. There's a nice pastrami sandwich somewhere. There's spicy mustard drooping down somebody's A cheek like that's what I imagined flavored. He's mayor flavor town i. hear the maybe like the municipal manager. just made it a flavor parade though I feel like Billy's right. This is supposed to be a towel and our now, but I'm envisioning parade. Parade and it's like I could see rain in town. Yeah, I could see him as the mayor of flavored town much like the mayor in of Whoville. Right Ryan exactly inch like he looks the part. If there was a flavor town, he looks like he belongs as mayor flavored town as the mayor of Whoville looks like he should be the mayor Whoville with. The hair that twirls around guys by the way Chris we haven't gotten to your job yet. I hope you do. You could start on a got something the other day in the mail that I love that I want to show you guys in you know visually. It's not great. I'm just GonNa, I'M GONNA. Put It on and I'm going to come back so just one second. Then you tell us about your dream job all through to you, Chris your dream job. What have you always wanted to do since you're a little bit well before we get to that like now? Billy started mentioning Whoville and we talk about flavor town now. I'm kind of going down the rabbit hole. WHAT FICTIONAL TOWN! WANNA spend a weekend and I know there's more options than just flavor talented whoville. Those are two good options. Katelyn town. Oh my God like in in nightmare before Christmas. Yeah, on our. Cat. Christmas town. That's giving towel a town I. Don't know I'm not going into any of those like. That movie freaked me out as a kid actually, if I'm being honest, you don't funny. Enough I. Never saw it as a kid and I saw him as an adult I guess. My Mom was trying to like shield me from getting scared of it, so I never watched. I didn't know what I was missing. My wife was like Oh. I love nightmare before Christmas on like okay like I know I've heard of it. I've never seen it so I watched it as an adult and I was like. I. Don't I noticed? You don't have anything on. Yeah, maybe you're planning a big reveal here. Saying I didn't get to my dream job because I was saying what fictional town we mentioned whoville flavored town if you can spend a weekend in any fictional town. Town. What would you go with like I feel like flavor. Town's pretty good option. Bill would be fun Tony mentioned Halloween Land, or whatever it's called from nightmare before Christmas and sounds terrifying. But, what did you find out? What did you get what you were getting? His Candy Land Does that count as As more of. A. New How about this. How about if like Disneyworld has like adventure island and they have like Tomorrowland, and they have all those right in frontier, so has like seuss landing in drastic Argon. Whatever it is, they call the comic town or whatever they call the other ones. What if that counts as my town, but it grows beyond the scope of what we see now, and it's actually like frontier land you step in and it just like once you put your stub your foot in the boundaries just expand, and it becomes like a whole land in. You'd see what actual frontier. Land Count I've a complicated game, okay? I got. It looks like a war. It's like just a mask. Right the mask it is from the mask singer. They set me Massingir Facial Oh. This is monster, so this is a t pain mask. And then, oh! Yeah is the white tiger. This one was wrong. Route one villa's could pass as mass singer masks and animal masks. They're not. They just Kinda look like animal masks and. So, a kind of a funny story about this. it came. It came to my building. My building has a mail room and they let you know when it is. You have package after pick it up, so I got a call a couple of days ago and They're like? Hey, just wanted to apologize and whenever the building calls I like freak out because they never call so I'm like. Oh, no, what happened so? They're like hey, just wanted to apologize You got a package, but we accidentally gave it to the wrong person and they open did so like we closed it which you know, you come down so sorry that we did that. We just send us the wrong the unit. Just letting you know why it's open when you pick it up long enough find property. And I I wasn't like I had ordered something from Amazon so i. figured that's what it was. which is like a cable, so Michael Taylor League probably saw cable rain. So then I go when I open this And I see what it is and I'm like Oh. My God, these are awesome, and then I immediately thought. Wow, whoever opened? This must think that I'm like a really strange person. Like, all of these really strange like face masks, and like this one that looks like a Tiger's like tea, and then another one that looks like a leopard in his kangaroo bedazzled like knows in his monster. One just has these two TS, a bunch of really furry looking. There they like they look kind of like the lower half of the person's face. Cover your face right so that was weird, right? But the mass that I was using was also dirty, had to clean it so like when I went down the next time I'm wearing this monster Max so the bottom half of my face like this big Fuzzy League, green blue thing with lengthy suit teeth, and like a purple mouth smiling, so I'm walking around the building with this leading out my dog, and then I see the board, says I have a package, so I go to get the package and I. Know The guy that works were just having like this friendly conversation. My Dogs Taina heading the dog right. And then I get back in the apartment. I see a miracle Oh. My God like a mooring half a monster face like this present rally think Saddam, crazy, because I was just talking them for twenty minutes with my mask on all you could see was the bottom half of my face with this ridiculous smile thing going on, so the ask gives you the range that you're looking for with Li like because it it. It shows that you're taking this pandemic seriously, but yet you're you have a sense of humor and a your. Yeah, the good fun side too, so it's like. I don't WanNa be that guy the same way you didn't WanNa. Be That guy with me I? Don't WanNA. Be that guy with you but one. Are you sure that the person didn't see some acid? They liked and took them to. Are you not sure that the person put on some of the masks and then put them back in the box. Who Excellent Questions Anthony So, this is what happened. These masks came in prepackaged like containers with plastic around them. So when I opened the package. One of them had been open. So those masks are in the bag and they will be washed 'cause I. Don't want to discard them entirely, but they will be thoroughly washed and I opened another package and I'm using the ones in the other package to. Me and my wife had that conversation and she came up with what I think is a great theory which was. Hey they probably saw these, but at the same time. They're so distinct that even if they like them if they don't around the building with them. You would immediately know hey. How does that person have that? Mass that I ordered which didn't order like it just? I guess I've now been put on some PR lists, so it was sent this way, which is like incredible I love it, but yes, that's the one thing about these things is that they're so like who would be what everybody's walking around with like solid color like their favorite team or like just a general like cotton, whatever it is made out of the gate like a walgreens or CVS, and these are just like so wild that know immediately flight some random person just walk in their dog, or just like going outside, and they have this like Oh. Hey, the bottom half of your faces, a white tiger. Second. Hello this is your apartment i. Some favors from you. Your cat keeps rubbing against the kitchen island and I can't return the favor. Can you give her extra pets for me after that? Could you bundle your renters and car insurance with GEICO? We could save money and it's easy to do online and one last thing. Could you leave the TV on during the day I? Need to catch up on my soaps. Go for bundling made easy. 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It's like a full front to back on the making of this movie. Every step of the way how difficult animation is nowadays while how easy it is computers, but just so so interesting I have not watched anything as interesting as this recently so I recommend that, but Jennifer Lea she is the writer and director of the frozen series, but she's also this chief creative officer for Walt Disney, animation, now I want to go a step above that I just WanNa be the chief creative officer general. Walt Disney she doesn't nation I kind. Kind of want to oversee the whole process and told, does that mean yeah, just a common thing I think it has to do I would assume that the her her chief creative officer role is just overseeing gets green lighted, and what gets you know like I'm sure she sees a bunch of scripts, a bunch of ideas for Disney animation projects, and it's like I would have so. You don't want to actually create things you want to have with creative people. Give you the ideas, and you decide what works I wanna be Jennifer Lea. I WanNa, give the green lights to everyone, and then I also want to work on my own projects, like she wrote and directed for all the frozen stuff, so she has her hands in that film, while still overseeing the overall so I kind of like that I like having like being able to dictate what gets green lit, and what doesn't, and then I can also work on my side projects as they come. Come along so I would think without knowing the company's structure that to get to that point you'd have to I have the Jennifer Lea role where you right well. No, the jet you'd have to work. You have to work your way up, so you have to be like I would think like the creative type and you work your way up right, billy. Let's I'm one step ahead of you by the way. Ever, since I watch this documentary, I have been formulating animation ideas some that that I plan to eventually formulate in a cohesive email and send to Jennifer Lea as a pitch for my employment with her I would maybe skip that step, and before we get to you just straight up emailing. Jennifer Lea these ideas, why don't we try to massage them out a little right to like? Let's say that we are. Let's say that we're the BOB's me. And Anthony Wright outright. Up Japex. We're the BOB's, so you're coming up to the BOB's a. you are going to tell us why it is it. You should have this job. So what ideas have you come up with gives one great animation. Thing that you come up with one movie since you WanNa, do more than just animation. What movie? What's our next frozen? And if let me just if you say that your big move after frozen to is frozen three, you're out of the room. Are Aim. It has to be bigger than let's just make frozen three. So what is going to be our next? Creation that we're GONNA build a parade down main street and flavor town out. You see I've learned my lesson from giving away my good ideas like. I gave away the friends idea and I feel like I've lost one like that I. think that I think that things in production right now and they've just kept me out of the whole thing, yeah! I don't want to share the specific ideas definitely. I definitely have a ton of them. We're the boggs just. Just give us some. We're the BOB's just give us some of the ideas that you think and that will say like you know what. They go green light Chris Cody. You're in charge of creative now now I know you guys both think that I'm being ridiculous. This is actually not something that I'm joking about like I genuinely am trying to think of a great idea for an animation movie that I can pitch Jennifer release. Honestly not going to say what my like I do have like two or three ideas that I've started formulating kings. I'm honestly not going to say those. That's how A. A ridiculous my dreams are, but that's also someone that doesn't have any idea would say right like that's the same thing that. If you didn't have an idea, you'd sit. Hey, listen I have its top secret. I. Can't tell you what it is. Only I could know because I'm GONNA put a straight to Jennifer Lea. So can you give us maybe a little scoop like maybe like like animal base? Is it like Princess Fairy Base? Is it like? I'll give you one idea general concept of one of my ideas. Okay, it's not based on a my daughter is being very loud and don't worry listen. You gotTa love kids as part of the. Actors knee this episode. This movie that I'm thinking of creating is not based off human characters. It's like a about an animal. It's about an animal family why? And I feel like the untapped market in the Animal Realm of animation is a ducks. Ducks. So we're GONNA have a job. I've caught fire kind of been inspired by my dad raising his duck family. Donald and daisy. Yeah, it's about because I do in Louis No, but. This is about a legitimate like just like a duck family in a neighborhood and it's about their journey. So Chris GonNa be. Not all I can see I can see Chris is going to be in. Be When you do the autoclave, the animated short. That's where he's going to be. It's GonNa be like Chris. Cody's family, but it's going to be a very artistic style and he's going to win an Oscar for an animated short. Play, hockey billy but we do pay no Mayes at some point they do walk in the shape we do. We do a flying V at some point, but wow so hakimo. Let me ask you a couple of follow ups if you would. Way To one of the bobs to the ducks in year on next franchise face, human problems or uniquely duck problems like is the daddy duck. If there's a daddy duck or the mommy duck or the kid ducks did the ducks dress up to go to work? The ducks have briefcases, or is this strictly ducks doing duck things at no human qualities whatsoever. We haven't really gone down the rabbit holes of like character. You know really taking these characters to the next level so I don't really know all the answers to that question. You just saw ducks, but nope, we want it to be based like I. Want You to? I want people to leave the theater. It'd be like Oh, I have that duck family. That duck family lives outside my house. It's GONNA be Kinda. Like what maybe kids are thinking that that duck life is like, and that's Oregon to bring the life, so we'll. The ducks be interacting with humans, and we're just GONNA. See things from like a like okay, for example like honey I shrunk the kids. Is that what this is? How you envision is where we will see the world through instead of like kids that were shrunk and they're seeing like. Like Oh my God. Look at the parents look at how big this blades of grass are. Look at these, and we're going to be seeing like kind of the world from ducks perspective, or is this GonNa? Be More of like an animated thing. I do want to bring both perspectives and because I see the toy story franchise, and I think that they focus too much on the toys. I would have like more about Andy. I feel that humans are such an ancillary character well. Toys story I want to bring the humans a little more to life than toy. Story did not as much I. Don't want it to be fifty fifty, but I want them to be more. I want to get more of the field of humans than you doing toys. Here's the interesting thing about toy story. Right, 'cause you're right in a sense. We knew pretty much about Andy Right, but we learned a lot about sid. Is. He was feeling. We learned a lot about in toy story, two or three hundred remember the guy that bought the toys refurbish the toys out. WAS IT AL from Al's Toy Barn that another thing, but we learned a lot about him, but we didn't. We never really got to know Andy So. You WanNa have kind of like a duck child relationship there. There will see things from the perspective of a child that's on this duck family, but also things from the perspective of the Duck I wanna see how the kids react to the duck trying to tackle that I want to see the parent's perspective on the duck. I WANNA. Touch it all, and are you thinking without touching anything is? Are You thinking that? That, this is GonNa be like an animated cartoon thing or like a CGI or like a toy story kind of computer generated lay this this has got frozen, and and like a frozen field to telling him so inspired by this frozen I wanna work with all the animators that I saw this doc. I'm telling you gotTa Watch this documentary if you you're. You're in if you let you guys are both in the creative process telling you it's a six part like forty five minutes each episode. It's like front to back the entire process of making it is so interesting legitimately, and you want this to be a movie yes it will eventually be. Anthony might be right. The first one I make might be short. My daughter's crying. It's fine. Art of the creative process, right? A little bit, we cry a little bit. Put that into your work. Yeah, make real emotion is important especially. If you want to connect with kids, they feel that emotion. You know that's what I'm that's I'm lacking. That's why can't be the next Harrison at the moment, but I'm GonNa work on feeling emotion. Guys Update I think I love love. Did you know. GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what GYCO could already saying. What are you waiting for your teenager to help around the house? Okay, mom I empty the dishwasher vacuum the basement and folded sheets out of the. What Oh and next I'm gonNA Clean Mittens litterbox. Are we in kind of prank, show or something? That's a camera, isn't it? There's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. 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Mini-Ep 89: Protect Your Heart

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36:54 min | 1 year ago

Mini-Ep 89: Protect Your Heart

"Hello and welcome to forever thirty five podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Dorothy I'm Kate Spencer. We are not experts. Just two friends who likes to talk a lot about Sierra. ooh Jazz Ange. This episode where we hear from you share your comments and thoughts and an answer questions to the best of our ability and we always ask that you do please remember. We are not experts. We are just podcast hosts so we always encourage you to seek support first and foremost from a doctor or a mental health professional as needed. And if you WANNA reach us our voicemail is seven eight one five nine one zero three nine. Zero r e mail is forever thirty-five podcasts at G MAIL DOT COM. Let's kick things off with a message to you. Dorie thank you kate. Very sweet sweet message or literally and I'm all about right now all right and catching up on my magazine reading. Because I love on and off and Marie Claire Magazine Holiday Issue Outward Affection is my lawn and the profile is written by one story should fear and I literally sat out loud. We don't door which is weird because I I don't know you and you're very successful writer and my surprised that you're in Clare excited for you and I'm McCauley's which I've never done before but I love you both and I love the podcast and I just wanted to say congratulations. You guys are meeting and you make my life and just wanted to thank you for that. So happy holidays. Happy Twenty Twenty and Thanks for being you I know thank you go door things came. I wrote a profile of Jennifer Lea. Remember when you're working on that is the chief creative officer of Disney animation and also co wrote and directed the frozen 's it sounds amazing. She's extremely cool. Well look listener. You do know us we do. We do. Wow we do know you and we love you. I mean we know each other and kind of magical weird podcast way. Yes I do feel like we all know each other kind of yeah totally and I mean look we know you're in the topless reading a magazine because then that was not too much information. I didn't all is there ever. I love with listeners. Call it sorry this is. Tmi Dot dot dot never team oh you literally know about our hemorrhoids. Our bodies Dory's blasting water upper button day. I mean you know the details the two of those three examples. Where about butts? I love by care about bringing back butts for twenty twenty. Hey you know what. I'm all about Butts and twenty third overlook part of our body because it just you know not by us. Well that's true anyway. That was really a sweet message. So thank you for that. We've got another voicemail here another nice but we're just playing nice messages today. Here we are indoor. I just had to say. Listen to me that you had with your husband's You guys are so funny. It was such a United States with a pot and I I think it would be a good I get back at another time I just had to tell you because I think it was a great year and It was really good conversation here yet so I loved Pat. Thanks Kate episode. That we did with our husbands has met with great acclaim. which were truly thrilled about? We are his. We didn't know how that was going to go. We didn't neither did. They know they didn't they were. They were good sports about it. They were really good sports. I think I think they enjoyed themselves. House feel like we learned a lot like I didn't know they had thought so much about hair plugs. Yeah you know. I think it's a big source of anxiety for man you you know. I don't want to be like well good but like I'm glad that they have something. The structural system in which we live in which that's true the burden often doesn't fall on the old white men's to feel bad about true but anyway they were really really happy to have them on and thank you all for receiving them so grindley signed. Louis I really. I really got a chuckle out of all the enthusiasm with which they were greeted. Their silly guy they are they are big goofs Eh great people and they have good chemistry to like with each other. I know I would love for them to they. Were Yukking add up. I mean we had to cut a lot of the COP OP dead. There's just trim on the floor of them making lots of jokes about how they like. Jokingly love construction right they were they they were really they were making jokes about masculinity and yeah yeah they're funny they're funny story yes and depend depend on other VM. Here do it. Dang it's the knee from Denver again. I forgot I wanted to thank you guys for not letting your podcast CIA into seasons. I love that you play it straight through the whole year. I understand you take like a week off or two weeks off depending on vacation but I really appreciate the full time hot and I'm also curious if you ever GonNa do a live show or start doing live shows and she. Do you better come to Denver. I love that she just ended. You'd better the Denver Nuggets. I would love to come to Denver. Okay so first of all. Thank you for liking how we structure the podcast. Yeah Yeah it is you know we are trying to make more time offer ourselves because I feel like the first year and a half we just like blasted through Ooh down and then we're like. Oh this is we. We have to take like full rest. Meaning we're not thinking about the podcast for a good week at a time. Yeah wouldn't you say that would be good for mental health. Yes so what we just did. Yes and we're working on just figuring out how to do that in a way that it's also not like disruptive to the to. You're listening to this fear Yes yes but we do love doing this consist. Yeah it's a real thrill it is as for live shows that is I would say on our top up of our podcast to do list and twenty twenty. We're really trying to figure it out. I mean in the interest of full transparency laid out there during. It's hard to know. Oh how many people would actually come to a live show. Would anyone come like we know we have listeners. But to and the rubber hits the road good. Are you all going to buy tickets to our chef. You really want to come to show. We don't know and it's okay if you don't it's totally fine but it's like when we're planning a tour and we're we have to sort of estimate like how many people would show up and book a venue. It's like oh it's truly. We have no idea we've never done before. Yeah we'll probably start smaller. I was thinking like arenas it's going to be an MSG just me and you and a couple listeners. Listeners eleven arena. She'll say a no. We definitely want to do it. And it's been I will say the Times where we've done live events certain kind of like an had a meet up. It has been so incredible like meeting listeners in connecting with people's really fun and it's also really cool just to seep the listeners. Get to know each other all immune in a space so we are thinking about it If you have leads on locations in your cities hit us up. Yeah probably has to be a more major metropolis right now. Yeah but look. If you own a venue in Hawaii or or Hawaii or Hawaii Hawaii let us know we are coming. They're only doing a Hawaii tour. Doing all the islands and that would honestly be so much fun so amazing. Let's do it okay. We have an email here before we take a little break. AAC email is really giving the other email a run for its money although but do you know what this means. We have thirteen year old listeners. Yes multiple we have multiple thirteen year. Old We love you so much religious. Okay okay hi I am from San Diego I am also thirteen eighteen. Just like the past listener clear. I am a ballet dancer and have seven classes a week. That are all very long. That isn't even including all the different types of rehearsals performances school and extra school activities activities. As you can tell there is a lot going on and I was wondering how I can cram in time to do things with friends. It's always sorry I have ballet and I want to transition to sure I'm free three. Please help he s my little sister and I love your podcast and have cherished every bit of it my little sister so we have a listener. Who at least one listener? Who is younger than thirteen? I'm blown away next thing. You know your daughter's right in I mean. Did I tell you that one of my daughters started reading my books. One of my Book My Book Doc. The only book I've written so far no about my mom and was like crying about it. I was like wow. That's that's a story for another podcast or back to this listener. Low thirteen-year-old listeners is tough I was thinking about this and I will tell you listener was as I saw your email. I had just had had dinner with one of my oldest friends known since I was about eight or nine. And she's a dancer and she had this kind of schedule. Our whole lives all through through middle school and high school danced everyday for hours and tons of rehearsals and was also on varsity soccer. And I am going to ask her how she did it because she she also made time for her friendships and relationships. But I think that can be really hard when you're young and passionate about something and also schoolwork. I'm wondering if maybe maybe it would help you to keep a calendar and you might start to be able to visually lay out all the stuff that's on your plate like even just just a basic like twelve hanging on the wall calendar where you write everything out and then when you see the spots where you have time free you take the lead on making king plans with people. I like that I was also going to say I would. I would look at your schedule and see if there's anything you can cut out Like you say extra school activities. Do you a half to participate in all of those school activities. I don't know what they are. Yeah but it does sound like something's going to have to give a little bit in order for you to make time for your friends and look we're not your parents or your teachers or your coaches or whatever none of those things so you know take this with the cream assault but your your social life is of value as are the activities that you do and they they need to. They all can balance each other out and give relief from the other. Yes so if you feel like you're not having enough time in your social engagements I think it's okay to put some value there again. I agree I'm not a parent but please posted. Yeah and thank you so much for listening shoutout to your little sister. I hope we have said anything inappropriate for sure. We have to just go on about butts but everybody has but butts aren't inappropriate all right. Let's take it okay on that note. We're repack well. We say forget. I'm like Oh it's a sued doing the podcast. Why did I not waiting on anyone know? Okay let's kick things off here with a return to product conversation. I K N Dory calling you from Palm Springs Because I just had brought up that I wanted to share with that is maybe sometimes the reason that we don't think a product gotta work because we're not using enough of it. I figure this out using living proof in shower styler because I had been playing things for a while and I liked what it did my hair but I didn't feel like it was always a dramatic enough styling products and then I put more on my mom's day when he's in the shower and blonde hair and I really pleased with the Gel and this was just something that like maybe some times. He's changed the way we're using our products the nature reserve being effective The only downside to this is this is like how cheap for me and I'm like oh I love the south but you know. Aw It's GonNa be a tree and trying to get us that about Catherine setting it that I love all these things that are like maybe a little out of my budget for this time. 'cause you know we're doing our best. I think everybody has an I just love you guys for coming this resource to talk about all the things. They live Yeah have a great day bye to rest. Does love poem spring. Yes love all those things. Uh this made me chuckle. Because I wonder if you're like me in which I buy myself a product and then I'm just gonNA use drop this because I gotta make it last for two years. They spent money on it. It's hard for me to like dump the product out in my hand and really go for it. I have been noticing lately especially with Moisturizer Zor slathering on and make it better. I think so. Yeah it's GonNa feels good. I got I love this epiphany and you know again. This might be the kind of funny that is for for you and for somebody else may have an epiphany. That's like any loss of this product for our effectively for me. But I don't know becoming more one with our products hopefully great it is consumerism. That's a tough one it is. We haven't solved it and we're definitely not going to. What's read an email? Shall I read it. Take it away in those dulcet tones. Hank you can't I think I will. High Cain Dory. I'm a longtime listener. First Time reaching out. Oh my God what you said. He was dulcet tones. And using the tone do much. It's so soothing. Calm down my anxiety like dropped okay. I'm sorry can continue. I'm twenty six really starting to take my health and self care seriously. You're pod really makes a field less overwhelming more like the gift it really is. I need your your help. I'm passionate about nontoxic and natural skin care products after pushing past the hype. Seeing how big of a difference they make in our overall wellness. My Skin is both incredibly oily and hardly dry the most combo skin there ever was. I have the hardest time finding prods. That work for me any any now recommendations would be so so helpful was like Asmar. I honestly have like that. Weird neck tickle. Ah I'm gonNA read all emails. Oh my I just want to thank the listener wrote that email. That are being the our youtube channel. Holy moly how to recover. I wish you could see me. I was like the listeners. Visual experience seeing okay. Well this listener you write this at an interesting time. Because I am revisiting visiting yield squally oil and I wonder if this might be a good option for you now look again not an expert but I believe squalene comes hums the closest to mimicking your skin's natural moisture wail my right. You know it's funny. You say that because I was going to recommend bioscience oh I do like BIOS. And they use squalene in most of their product do and they have a light they have some nice lightweight. Um Products. Balancing the oiling and the dry that's really challenging so I'm also wondering if less is more for are you rather than trying to put this on balance and do those not just maybe Hold back a little bit. Go very simple. And let's see what happens. I don't know I would say. Lay off the cleansers. Lay off the exfoliating. It's be really gentle on your skin. Maybe just like what Kate was saying like one serum and a moisturizer. And and that's that's in your sunscreen dory the squalene oil that I've been using is by indeed laboratories And and it is derived. I'm quitting from their website and also caroline higher on Uses it as well and has written about it on her website but on their website website. They say it's one hundred percent from sugar cane so it's not from palm oil or pardon royal And it's just really I don't know it's a really hydrating grading I love it. So and it's twenty dollars. Sounds great pretty good price point I would say they begin. Animals Listener. An let's it's open this up for the listeners and you know also there is a forever. thirty-five natural beauty subgroup. That I bet would have a lot of great answers. Yeah Yeah Yeah So. We'll try to reach out there. Yeah we've got a long email from a listener. I'm going to read it. I'm not going to do it in a dulcet tone. When a regular tones find dear kate and Dory I'm forty three years old and I have a busy job and two youngest kids ages seven and ten last? You're my mom was diagnosed with Alzheimer's she lives on her own because my parents are divorced and she and my sister are estranged so her care and managing. Her illness has fallen on me. Here's the positive sort of side. She's still in mostly spirits and we have a great medical team taking care of her. I'm in Canada's a medical costs are not a worry. Although the funds required for eventual supported housing are she lives nearby so I can see her frequently. I've got a great husband who supports me both emotionally practically my dad. Even though divorced from my mom's still helps out by doing her grocery shopping. I am seeing therapist. Who knows me well in whom I trust? Here's what I can't seem to deal with. How alone I feel? Despite the positives mentioned above. I can't get over the fact that the buck stops me and no one else really gets it friends. Avoid the topic or talk about how they dealt with their grandparents who had alzheimers parentheses. Not the same as mom. It seems that for those around on me. I'm in a grey zone. My mom hasn't died. She's not actually ill in hospital or anything but watching her decline and taking on the responsibility for her care is incredibly painful. I'm sad about it all all the time. I have tried reaching out to some friends to say that I'm having a hard time. But they don't really know what to say beyond that they're sorry. How do we deal with this? I don't know exactly what I'm looking for aside from some acknowledgement from others. I don't know why I'm so focused on this sort of recognition. Others are busy and they don't really understand and I get it. I know I'm still care for and love. This is made me so resentful and angry especially a friends complain about their parents or their siblings. A mean and ugly part of me always wants to remind them how lucky they are a hate that this situation in is making me bitter like this. Do you have any thoughts about how to begin to overcome these feelings or to reframe this narrative actually do have some thoughts thoughts. Let's hear him. Can you find a support group. Yeah that was my first thought. A caregiver and preferably with people who are dealing with Alzheimer's loved ones with Alzheimer's because I think then you would find people who truly understand what you're going through and you all are kind you've dealing with the same stuff. Yeah and I mean I I think it can be really hard for people to understand. Yeah Yeah it just in it and that is it is so isolating and being a caregiver is so intense and so hard and my guess is there other listeners listeners who are caregiving for ailing parents. Right now who see you I just know having done it briefly with my mom and when she had cancer and a totally different experience but I I know what the challenges were for me in that in that time and it is very lonely and I do want to validate your feelings. Is that that you feel resentful and angry. Especially if people complain about their parents or their siblings I really this resonates with me personally. I really went through this. I've gone I mean it's still pops up for me now but especially in the recent years after my mom died. Yeah Man I get it totally we get it and you know sometimes like I just WanNa say like. Sometimes it's not the right time to overcome the feelings or reframe the narrative like it. You don't always always have to put a positive spin or change. What your feelings are? I think your feelings are valid. And you know just because you feel that doesn't mean that those people don't appreciate their parents or or whatever but like I get I get what you're feeling I get it get it I get it I see you. It's it's really hard to sit and listen. Does someone complain about a healthy parent. Even though you know I always knew if my mom was healthy I'd be complaining. You know certain you understand it. But I'm rambling. I just one of the validate your feelings and I do think we set a support. Group is a place where these feelings would be very validated. and seeing. If there's not when you can get to in real life I would. Let's see if there's something online or a facebook facebook group of people who are in your same situation. Good luck yeah or hey forever forever. Thirty five listeners. If there's even one or two of you out there and you want a former facebook group together about this go for it. Yeah you know all you need is like one or two other people who who get it on that note. Let's take another quick break and we'll be right back. Let's do it. They talk. Well we're going to switch gears a little bit and we have to relationship topics we do. First One's pretty intense. It is to read it. I'll read it. I don't Torri Dental citoyens. No Dory Tons K. High Hindu. I'm twenty five and currently living with my boyfriend. Eight and a half years. He's smart funny. Supported adventurous never complains and splits the housework evenly and willingly with me in short. He's a wonderful life. Partner recently came up that he's not quote certain of me meaning. He's not one hundred percents certainty that the person for him. He elaborated saying that he didn't feel like we have an. We'd had enough series conversations about our life goals aspirations etc for him to be certain I honestly was both shocked and heartbroken shocked because it never even crossed my mind eight and a half years in that he might still be testing the out heartbroken. Because I'm certain about him and it hurts. It's that he's not in the same place weekly. We had a follow up conversation. I answered his questions about career goals. Kids where I wanNA live I wanNA retire etc and I listened to all his answers. Yeah he's still not certain and he's not even really able to tell me why he's uncertain if I had to guess though I'd say it's because he really values independence struggles with making long-term term commitments. We ended the conversation with me saying I understand that it's a big decision and I don't want to rush into anything but I would like to ask that out of respect for me and my time you start actively trying to get to a place of certainty regardless of whether that means you're certain you WanNa be with me or you're certain you don't. He agreed that that was fair and said he would start doing that now. I feel like I'm just waiting for him to break up with me even though Oh he might decide that he certainly wants to be with me. And it's devastating. I'm not exactly sure what I'm asking here. I guess maybe I WANNA know if I'm handling the situation correctly is it okay. That eight and a half years in. I'm still waiting for him to be certain about me. Or my selling yourself short by being with someone who has to decide whether or not I'm the one eight and a half years in is it okay to give him an ultimatum to tell him for my own sanity either. I need to admit that I need him to make up his mind sooner rather than later. Any advice or words of encouragement would be so so so appreciated. The thing I keep coming back to you is is that. Why does he get to be the one to decide? I think that you get to make the decision for how your life goes and in my opinion if you're with someone who's not certain of you. It sounds to me from reading this that that that you've said that's made you heartbroken in because you are certain. And he's not and so you get to decide if you want to be continued being with this person right now doesn't mean that you might not still end up with with this person and married and for one hundred years but I think that you are the boss of your life here yes kate. This person is the boss of their life. I also think it's it. It must be especially hard when you've been with someone for that long and you're so young you must have started dating him when you were sixteen or seventeen eighteen seventeen sixteen or seventeen. Because they've been she's twenty five and she's been with him for eight and a half years so you know it's it's hard to break up with anyone anytime but but I think especially when you've literally grown up with someone. It's really hard to imagine your life without them now. But I'm saying you need to break up but I'm just saying like in the universe of possibilities that is one possibility ability and it must be difficult to picture that My my take away from this is is that he's now put this out there and I feel like no matter what decision he comes due to. Its now out there that he was uncertain about you after eight and a half years and like maybe that we'll be something you could get over. I would have a hard time. I personally would have a hard time getting over that e getting over you mean it would constantly be in the back the brain yes and I feel like I would always be waiting for the other shoe to drop what I am going to suggest and again take this take it or leave it. I would suggest a trial separation. Would you suggest couples therapy with the two of them. Sure maybe couples therapy and a trial separation. Yeah take take a break I mean. Have this be your decision as kate within. That's yeah and and I think a trial separation might help with that you might. You might have a trial trial separation and say you know what this really is. My person and I'm going to get past what he said. And it will be fine or you might say you know what now that I have some some clarity and some distance. I can see that. I don't really appreciate the way he treated me. I don't know or could be somewhere in between how about we get to this place. What about this this listener decides they are certain about this person there? This boyfriend the boyfriend says actually no. And how do you then or is this just talking about something. That doesn't happen yet or like how. How do you then process the fact that you feel like? You're you've had you've made your person and they said Nope and now you have to deal with that. I think it really sucks but at least you know. Yeah you're not in this like weird limbo. Yeah that's what I think. I feel. Oh protective of your listeners. Because you've now placed in this slim in limbo like having a slender weight makes you not feel good about your so am I I I I think you've been extremely patient and generous. With him and mature. Michaud are as follow up conversation and ask ask him to actively get to a place of certainty and and I understand that it probably feels forced and artificial to say you must decide by February retentive whether whether you're going to be with me or not but also like you've also kind of given him a way to to to keep living in this a place of uncertainty which seems very convenient for him very convenient very comfortable for him so I I think you have to protect your own heart and meaning meaning like this. Is You have more agency in this situation than you think you think you do. And you're I do think that ultimately your heart You deserve to belong to not belong. You deserve to be with someone who is certain about certain about you. Yes I'm also a heavy word. Yes Oh because there are times in any relationship really. Oh my God I don't know what am I did. I make the right choice here like it. It is okay to grapple with uncertainty. I think that is say some poboy going to potentially controversial. Oh my gosh here comes. I think he's waiting for you to break up with him. I don't think that's controversial at all. It could that could I'm reading this and I'm getting. This is a person in who is too cowardly to break up with you. So he has given you every thing thing in his arsenal to present himself as unworthy of you and he's waiting for you to pull the trigger because I don't think he's going to who having been in a similar situation. Yeah Yeah that's where I'm reading where this is coming from. I just feel like these types of guys. Don't actually want to be the one they don't want to be the bad guy especially after eating for eight years a longtime so they're trying I this again. This may sound harsh but my read on this when all is said and done is that he is kindly manipulating you into breaking up with him. I don't know that sucks. Yeah so I think that's what I mean when I say. Protect your heart. Yeah yes yeah I I know what you mean so you have value you. Sound like a great press. I say this all from a place of love and support. Yes and look he could come in tomorrow and be like you know what I am certain. Swath fuck was I thinking. Yeah totally yes. Let's do it and then like great great only you can know what is true and right near relationship. Oh sorry. This is a dory moment tight. Just his Co. like answer all his questions about career goals when I want to retire like is this a job interview after eight and a half years I just I just don't I don't I don't get a good feeling. I'm sorry. Sorry I don't get a good feeling. Speak your truth. Dory's says my truth I just don't get a good feeling. I also just want to say relationships are really hard and suit thing from the other side. It is okay for another person to not know if a relationship is right for them totally. I totally I wanNA make sure like. I'm like doing the best to see all sides. Yes and of course we all come to advice with our own biases Um that is true so and I acknowledged that all seem like we're passing judgment on you but I also feel like sometimes sometimes radical honesty is the kindest path to take any words final words of encouragement for this listener. They asked her words encouragement. I think what you just said like you are a worthy person. You sound amazing. You're deserving of love true certain firm Yes love from this person or another person or many other people down the road who knows what life will unfurled anyway. This is really hard listener really hard. You can see it's hard just by how long we've talked about. Yeah and thank you for asking us and you know what if you feel up to keep us posted and if anyone has been here Holler at us. Well look. We're going to end on a light note. I was gonNA say hi now. I know too late. Note kind of ending back where we started. Good Point And we have another listener embarassing moment. Were so grateful for the US. Thank you for sharing your truth cells with us. We will play this and then from there I captain door Just calling in with an embarrassing story for you guys but I thought everybody would like I'm taking a break from baking cookies with my five year olds because yeah need to break But your boob story three on the Horse reminded me Of A vacation. Actually it was my honeymoon. I was on with my husband. has nothing to do with food enforcers but Embarrassing them the last. I was having a lovely dinner with my husband in Jamaica Ran. I decided that sitting around the a fire Outside would be romantic removed outside and as we were sitting there. I think the dinner wasn't sitting so well with me and ended up leading to go. Use the bathroom but instead of walking maybe five feet. The nearest bathroom. I who have a problem. Using uncovered restrooms decided. No we needed to get back to our hotel room which was on the other side of the resort so I decided you start walking. Go back to the hotel room and my husband's solitude well about halfway through this jungle walk You pases in you know resort I decided that it was now or never. And how they bridesmaid moment In the movie where she basically we check in the middle of the street So Yeah I had a beautiful frawley romantic dress on for the evening and more or less pooped in a Bush on my honeymoon. Yeah I tell the story most of the time to pretty much anybody who will listen. But I thought I'd share it with the world now if you do decide to play this Even better part of the story was the group that I couldn't manage to get back to the hotel room with In the Bush kind of lingered for the rest of the trip breath really gross. I know but it was that or Qiuping address having to figure that whole mess out and it was a whole thing. My husband loves to laugh at me about this and I Yeah I live with shame and and Whatever you WANNA call them day to day basis anyways hope you guys are having a happy happy holiday season? Please don't prove yourself and Rubbed everyone by what a great note to end on. Please don't poop yourself yourselves please. Do you know what sometimes it does happen. It's Okay Amen. Twenty twenty here. We go is going to be a year all right bye everyone i.

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The US economy, voter turnout, and major league baseball take a downturn this week

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The US economy, voter turnout, and major league baseball take a downturn this week

"From Koa W., it's the week in review I'm Jeannie Yandell in for bill. Radke. And I'm here with the digital editor for the Stranger Chase Burns, the technology correspondent for the New York Times care and Weiss and reporter for q thirteen Jennifer Lee. Hi everybody. there. And I have to say, thanks to the magic of technology. You don't just have to hear us. You can see us to we're streaming live at facebook dot com slash. K.. U. A. W. Public Radio and on Youtube at YouTube dot com slash User Slash K. U. O. W. Ninety four nine. So, it is Friday and so to mark this occasion as we do on every Friday, we are going to talk about corona. Virus. News. Case numbers continue to rise in Washington state particularly particularly among young adults and in response to those rising numbers. Governor Inslee has called for an indefinite pause on reopening the state's new restrictions on the current phases. Also go into effect this week particularly for restaurants chase. What are those new restrictions? Yes. So those the new restrictions for restaurants is one thing that I think is really interesting is that indoor dining is going to be restricted to it has to be within your own household So a host or hostess is going to sort of have to ask the Bull Hey, you guys live in the same household and people are going to have to. Be Honest about that. And say if they were, they do not they'll have to sort of eat outdoors on. So if you're having a tick tock. Tick. Tock Day. We were just talking about Tiktok if you're having hinder day. Then, you'll have to patio. There's also restrictions on like On Bar Service. But the the indoor dining restriction I think is one of the newest ones and no booze after ten PM as well. Okay. You talked about. People being honest about who they're eating with? Yes I live with these people. We all live in the same household. How do you enforce a restriction like you can only eat with members of the same household care and what do you think? Oh man I mean. A lot of a lot of the Kovin protections essentially require a bit of trust in humanity and faith in I think we've seen like mixed responses to that and also pushes a lot of enforcement pressures on low wage workers at grocery stores or the hosts at A. Restaurant, which is not A. Lucrative job. So I feel for people who have to try to enforce it. If you suspect like really you all really the same household. And I don't know I. Don't have a good answer for that I. think There's a lot of trust you and. That's a hard a hard way to enforce things I think as a side note. Why would you go out to dinner? Then I don't know I just feel like the risk reward if it's just with your family, I would just do takeout who like your roommates or something I don't understand getting a place to go meet with other people. But if you can't do that then I duNno. Gary some other people have a strong desire to go inside out of any endorse basis by personal That's a fair question. I mean Jennifer how are you thinking about the risk reward ratio as it pertains to your involvement with this phased reopening? Yeah I try to look at it from the livelihood of these. Owner these restaurant owners and I think it's been like a balancing act. With government officials trying to keep public health and minds while also not totally shutting the door on these businesses again So I think it's a difficult balance to me and really it is up to your own personal choice. Do you feel comfortable dining in an enclosed space? And you know starting today you can't do that unless you live with the person and it's all based on like honor system. So can we really enforce it? Are we gonNA see battles happening at restaurants where people are going to be accusing others of? Hey, you guys don't live with each other kind of like what we saw with mask-wearing I wonder. Yeah. I'm wondering whether restaurants can survive a full-on shutdown of indoor dining though chase, what do you think about that? Yeah I mean we've spoken to a lot of restaurants and bars and they've told us that if we they have to do another rollback than they're not going to be able to survive and so one of the things that I I've heard a lot from restaurants. They really WANNA rapidly explore other options like like street dining, not just sidewalk dining, but can expand into the street and the city's been working with them, and there's been some good responses there but it's still you know that involves a lot of permitting were reaching the end of the summer and I Feel like what's happening here is we don't really have a plan for restaurants if we have to do a full full rollback on with indoor dining, and so we're sort of like straddling both sides here but it just seems to me like it's sort of inevitable. I mean th that that indoor dining with the same household just really struck me as a little confusing I thought that we were going to get a rollback but this just seems like it's sort of like a half measure and I expect to a sort of more intense measuring the future. Well I spoke with King County Executive Dow Constantine earlier this week and he said that the rise were seeing in cases isn't really because of the fazed reopening. That a lot of the issue is not the activities that have been formerly allowed After the initial lockdown order. A lot of people take a signal that they can let down their government Tickets. Pretty well accepted that informal gatherings people not being as careful as they were originally is what's causing the upsurge in in infections and even the dining inside restaurants while that may be among the more dangerous of the things that has been loud in the sense that you've got a lot of people in an enclosed space I don't think that compares to people having informal. Gatherings parties. ETC particularly inside that's where we're. We think we are seeing a lot of infections take place. Does Know Constantine have a point here. If we are better at not gathering informally, would we be able to keep reopening? I think limiting the number of people you're interacting with will obviously limit the exposure of this disease because they think from the beginning, we've heard that now person to person interaction. Irish thrives. end to his point and you know other people we've heard from those backyard barbecues those hang outs. That's something where really like government has no business saying, you can't like you really can't put restrictions down. Other than to say limit But how do you enforce stat kind of going back to chases point right? We'll Jennifer, one of the things you've been looking into recently is contact tracing What does the process look like for investigating where corona virus cases are coming from right now? If. This was a really interesting story for us to go into and just Kinda see from the health department's point of view we went down to Pierce County I'm to come Pierce County Health Department and I think this is the easiest way that I understood it. So once you go and get tested if you test positive, your name and number is passed onto. Case investigator. Then that case investigator will start looking into the case, the COVID nineteen case, a make that initial phone call. Hopefully, the person answers ask questions about where have you been When do you think you were exposed? Have you been in close contact with other people and that's where the contact tracer a separate investigator will take that information start making phone calls. And they say they will never ever give out information about who you may have been exposed five, but you will be given a date of exposure. Okay I wanNA talk about one particular aspect of this process contact tracers calling and hopefully someone answers. I don't answer my phone I mean Karen would you will say. As a journalist who cold calls people all the time. Spam he has like ruined journalism because. Up Random numbers anymore they used to all the time you picked up your phone rang and right? Definitely like my hit rate has plummeted and so I feel for. The context tracers statements be, here with. Polling. Electoral polling and stuff like that. The problem right? That's a really good point I chased. You answer your phone would you answer your phone if you didn't recognize the number? I sort of used my voicemail is like a personal receptionist in just like a let that sort of screen it but I do think I do respond to texts pretty quickly and so I know there are ways that you can sort of tax people very quickly. So I feel like maybe is a good idea. It might just it might get more responses. Okay. Well, if anyone who is in charge of the contact tracing program if you listen to this, maybe try texting people rather than calling them. That might be helpful. Let's pivot a little and talk about the economy which. Kind of history this week our Gross, domestic? Product. Dropped thirty two point nine percent in the last quarter. This is the biggest quarterly drop ever recorded. Here's economist Diane swonk on marketplace. What's important is the losses were so broad based. We saw them in every single category even in government spending increases at the federal level offset declines at the state and local level which were quite steep, and in fact, if we do not see major transfers of funds to state and local governments to cut an employment that we saw during, the quarter will only compound as we get into the summer. And we also know that weekly six hundred dollars cares act assistance checks are about to stop those checks actually helped lower the overall rate of poverty in Washington state. So we could be facing a worse statewide economic outlooks than we have in months I talked with Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan about that yesterday. The projections are good and I hate to say that but you know it best case scenario we won't have vaccine until sometime next year. And that means for the next six months we're going to have to be phasing in and out of these kinds of restrictions, which is so hard on workers on small businesses on people being separated from one another. So we're in this for very long marathon. Jennifer. You've been working story about unemployment. What are you seeing there? You. Know. It's really sad to hear the circumstances people are finding themselves in when it comes to you know jobless claims we know that there are thousands file within Washington state and you know more than a million Americans Nash. So just to hear. Someone who never has been in this position always was able to pay their bills. Then all of a sudden once that first wave of restrictions came in March being in total shock than having to pick themselves back backup file for unemployment than not hear back for weeks and meaning like months I. Think people are really tough spot and it's going to continue. Chase. What do you think we're looking out over the next year here? What should we be expecting? You know in the Seattle Area I. think that we're probably going to see the inequality really increase We know that some people are fairly protected by this pandemic. In that, you know a lot of jobs are safe. A lot of tech companies are doing fairly well also obviously a of tech jobs can work from home and so i. Think in those cases, you're going to see a lot of people that whether this at least economically fairly well. But then you're also going to see people in the service industry and people in retail a really be hit hard and I think that we're going to see the same story we've been seeing but accelerated I think the happens A lot with corona virus is the Trans just sort of accelerate and so what I'm worried about is that that gap just becoming greater. Karen you've been reporting on the big tech companies and how the economy is affecting them. It appears it hasn't really affected them at all in doing pretty well in gentleman Amazon had its record quarter I mean it was unbelievable levels of. Forty percent growth in Revenue Double Its prophet over the past year record profits record revenue. But then that doesn't really affect the restaurant owner in South Lake Union, and that is the challenge. So it might affect people you know the billy have more people work as a driver for Amazon or as a picker warehouse something like that you see a shifting some jobs for the equivalent of that but no, you definitely are seeing kind of the high and obviously the work from home. This tekkers in Seattle can do that People stop spending but. But you have seen data that shows that wealthier people in general nationally have cut back on spending a lot and so of the random staff because they're not going on vacation, they're not eating out as much and that's such a huge fuel for the service economy. A lot of the Seattle region's economy is built on service on top of these huge. kind of corporate job, corporate empires, essentially So you'll see some benefits by go obviously see a lot of pullback exactly along these kind of unequal lines that I know Amazon has spent a lot of money trying to build up the South Lake Union area. I know they're concerned about having those restaurants survive on the backend of this and But it's a huge question I think regionally about obviously Boeing, facing a lot of trouble at already done some layoffs be more to come. Nordstrom. So the region's big employers are not I mean. I wonder if we're looking I remember at the end of the great recession sort of learned that chase was like the mortgage winner at the end of everything they were able to sort of buy up all of these mortgages and I, wonder if we're looking at a similar situation with employments at the, you know whatever the other side of this is we're going to see a few big companies. Probably attack that are the lawyers for many more people in our region which doesn't sound like a wonderful way to sort of have a diverse economy. Karen. What do you think about that? Yeah no I think it's definitely possible. You always don't WanNa have over-concentration in any one industry in the economy actually Seattle as much tech job as there are other. Boeing is a huge regional employer employer weyerhaeuser. It's not like it's just attack, but we don't want everything else to collapse essentially For everyone's sake having a diversity economy is a good thing and that's I think having that has helped Seattle through the previous previous downturns The great recession did not hit Seattle as hard as many other many other areas. In part because it had this exposure to attack, which at the time was growing. But yes. Definitely. I think I. Mean they're Amazon now has about a million people employed. Either directly or as a as a temporary many which they say they're going to hire full time. So I think that that number's that's. Globally by a lot, the vast majority of that's in the US. I mean, we also know that another sort of local employer is the Seattle Mariners Right. Our Franchise of Major League Baseball, which is happening this year. Remember this, this is what they were saying at the beginning of the month they were ramping up for the baseball season and then things changed, and by this week, it sounded a little more like this. The pandemic had already shorten the baseball season and now less than a week into it. There are big problems with the corona virus. Major. League Baseball announced it is postponing three games. Tonight's home opener for the Marlins home game for the Philadelphia Phillies and another Marlins game tomorrow. Okay Chase baseball is just getting started for the year. What happened Well, what happened was is that a lot of people got corona virus really quickly and one of the things that I think happened with baseball that may not happen with other sports. It's is that baseball really attempted to hold a lot of games in a lot of states? So I think they were attempting a sixty game season. Thirty stadiums and we know that traveling increases spread and I think it's just it's been like daily. We've seen new COVID cases pop up hasn't it's just been a week, right? To night is the the the home opening and governor Inslee is expected to throw the first pitch. I heard there's going to be a video beforehand of like healthcare workers safely handing off the ball to each other and then handing it ends leap virtually, and then he pitches it to sort of encourage people to stay home and stay healthy move is just gonNa be a little weird because baseball is not staying home minutes not staying healthy and so I just think I'm a little worried. We might have to cancel more games but also canceled the season. Jennifer, what do you think about this? Should baseball's keep trying or should they just call it? If they keep trying, which seems like they are try and try as they may they really need to change the way they're doing it they. Are Such role models for so many of their fans of all ages and families and I just think that you know. Right off the bat. It just was not good. Yeah. Well, let's look towards Next week we have a primary election coming up on Tuesday voter numbers are low so far I mean there's a lot to be distracted by maybe people are watching too much baseball. Maybe they're just distracted by everything else that's happening right now but whatever the reason it can't be that are voting process is too complicated. There are how to videos for what seems like every county in Washington state. In King County, all voting is done by mail. So if you're registered to vote about three weeks before the next election. You'll receive a voters pamphlet in the mail. It covers all the candidate race. Oh, and they're also inspirational videos about why we should vote. Their signs all around US reminding US vote. Even when we were always on the go. From one meeting to the next. And even when we try to escape it all. It's time we paid attention. And became Pierce County voters. From. Heady days when they were always on the go. That was something. Okay. So chase wise the voter turnout down. You know I I'm not entirely sure what I guess is that there's just a lot to pay attention to and I think that a lot of the traditional things that would encourage people to vote in a primary haven't happened a lot of candy canes have digital and a lot of these races are not really flashy races I don't know a lot. Of people have spent a lot of time thinking about the lieutenant governor's race even though in the lieutenant governor's race is really important and so I think people are mostly distracted what I'm what I'm hoping is that we usually see a huge sort of out in this last weekend and sort of people going like, Oh, I'm supposed to do that. So I'm hoping. That you know hearing US talk about the Sankei would you may help increase turnout but there really are not many excuses in our region I'm and we are a role model and a lot of a lot of places are looking at us and so I think if we have a lower turnout it'll be a little bit of an embarrassment. On, but also may be used to sort of signal wrong lead I sort of mail in voting somehow reduces turn out So I worry a little bit about that Do we have any sense of what the polls are saying thus far about what the results of the primary election might be even though we all acknowledge nobody answers, their phones when pollsters call anymore. I do know that we don't have a clear Republican candidate Challenger to Jay Inslee and I think that that's one of the races that were really looking at I'm you know are we going for Republicans are they going to have tim I'm in face off against Jay inslee are they going to have Lauren Cole off against Jay? Inslee and I think that what's really important about these primary races is they determined the the sort of sense of the conversation that we have going into the general and we know that there's going to be a lot of attention on the general and so I just think that You should really go out and participate in that conversation going to be. We know that there aren't a lot of Republicans holding higher office in Washington. State's Jennifer. Do you think that regardless of who the Republican candidate for governor is they have much of a chance of winning against James Lee Assuming he is our Democratic candidate. Yeah, I mean he is the incumbent and just historically I think incumbents kind of have the YOU WANNA call it upper-hand and I do think that Jay inslee has gotten further exposure with this endemic You know he's having those regular pandemic broadcast that ninety one can tune in to you The penguins are obviously on both sides and very strong. So I guess we'll end up seeing later on in the general election in November and just going back to chases point I. Hope that people who are listening and watching will do their part because it's really important to not only talk the talk but walk the walk and I do think mail in ballots have also historically shown higher percentages of voter turnout. So hopefully, that will prove to be the case again in twenty twenty. One of the things that I've been wondering about for this election is actual election night parties that does not seem like something that can happen as we're used to it. At this moment chase you've been looking at this what happening with that. At the stranger, we cover the election night parties a lot, and we sort of do this big blog post and we go out and we go to all these parties. Obviously, that's not happening. This year we've spent we've sent a inquiries to the most of the campaigns and I. Think we've gotten like three responses back on we know that. The Republicans are largely like Lauren culp is throwing an in person party in Leavenworth as of now with the live music and food. So that's that's one thing But then we've heard from other candidates who are having a facebook live party and they're sort of encouraging people to like wear a sir in color and like drink a certain drink and they're still trying to facilitate that experience I think. A lot of people can go like who cares it's just a party this pandemic like why is this important? One of the things I think is really important about primary night election parties is there's always like a little turn that you don't expect and for candidates who suddenly breakthrough into the general that moment where the media sort of comes around them takes pictures you see like other surrounded by. The people who voted for them and support them on that moment is really important for that campaign and what I worry about is if we just sort of let this live, ii without that attention then we're not going to have the same sort of energy going into the. General. While if I could go ahead Karen, it's it's a little I. Think we'll talk about this more later but this week there were these hearings in Congress with the big tax anti-trust and they were all done via Webex Old. School. And I it the the congressional investigators sort of lost their tobacco moment Paco. CEO. Moment where all the tobacco CEO's relied up with their hands up swearing to testify and tell the truth and so you instead had this. Screen grab a screen shot but they won't even all in the same row. So it wasn't even like the line of them and and there's there's no doubt that there is like a visual or powerful thing about the kind of presence in Space the way Electric Party that you had this photo. Remembers the photos of when she found out she was like. You know like that. There are things become iconic visuals or were focus things on a moment that we is just not the same zoom zoom view Hun I hadn't thought about that. But that's you know particularly, we're looking towards November just imagining what the visuals out of out of that election will look like We have to take a short break here, but we will be back in just a moment with chase burns Jennifer Lea and Karen Weiss. This is the week in review and I'm Jeannie handle. Go. This is the week in review from KYW. I'm Jeannie Yandell I'm here with Karen Weiss Technology correspondent for the new. York. Times Chase Burns the digital editor for the stranger and Jennifer Lea reporter for q thirteen. So last weekend, we saw more protests here in Seattle particularly on Saturday in support of ongoing protests in Portland and the presence of federal agents they are taking people off the streets. Seattle police say protesters tried to light a fire in the lobby of the East precinct. were. Protesters were arrested police were injured legal observers of the protests say they were targeted by the police to chase. You said that last weekend's protests felt like things turned back to early June. How so? Yeah it definitely did feel that way we've been covering the protests in Capitol Hill near eleventh and Pine on since they started and I think one of the reasons that is because it was centered back near these precinct again another. One of the reasons is because the police when they declared a riot, we're also using a type of force that we haven't seen in a while I do want to say Like. We've gone back in time Portland gets a lot of attention for them having sixty plus days of ongoing protests and it was sort of thinking Portland like that and we think of seattle like we just think of Chas. But the reality is we've been having protest here pretty much every single day since the beginning as well. It's been ongoing they've been smaller, but the the thing that fellow went back in time was that that use of force that that we saw on Saturday. Jennifer. As Chase just pointed out you know there have been ongoing protests in Portland's on ongoing protests here in Seattle in one of the patterns that we have seen in both of those places is when police use crowd control weapons like flash bangs or sponge tip around, it doesn't actually control the crowd it. It escalates things instead. So why do you think police are continuing to use these tools if they are not getting the results the police say they want, which is to help control and unruly crowd. I think based on you know just the. Statements. Conversations we've been hearing from the law enforcement side other trying to minimize as much damage and injury is possible on both ends Obviously things got really heated and escalated. It was declared a riot injuries and arrests. And injuries on both sides So I think that. It's really difficult to think about you know okay. Crowd control tools based on. You know just evidence in researched on hearing from police. They say this is the easiest and safest way to disperse crowds and they've been. Shown, tested, based on research but I think a lot of that that work in order to prevent escalated scenarios like the ones we keep seeing play out is to really listen to the people who are demonstrating and why they are Before we head to the next event that does do a lot of damage not only to government buildings by you know just even to. The small mom and pop shops routine shops of businesses places where you go and eat in these neighborhoods and I know personally like even if you aren't someone who's like, let's say owning property in these neighborhoods install who difficult I think for people to feel like Oh, this is like where I live in all of this is happening no matter which side you're on just to. Be Exposed to that regularly I think is really difficult. Well one of the things that we we were watching for in these protests. Last weekend, we wanted to see whether federal agents were going to show up here in Seattle as well at the protests we had learned that they landed at Boeing field over the weekend, which apparently surprised every elected official in western. Washington because they'd all been told that the feds were not coming when they arrived I got a message from people at Boeing field saying this federal plane landed in some number of. Unidentified federal agents had gotten in vehicles for Winston known up until the plane landed here nobody really knew what was happening whether they were showing up or not, and in fact, even governor inslee thought that they were not coming. That was the message. Right old that by multiple people. And then they showed up anyway, which shows you the dysfunction of this administration. So that was King County executive. Dow Constantine. I talked with him on Tuesday about this. Apparently. The feds have left both Seattle and Portland at this point, Karen as a journalist. What do you make of the fact that nobody knew what was happening even as the feds were landing nobody like how how do we figure out what's happening? So we can report this out if nobody's got clarity on what's going on Oh, I mean when this is like classic breaking news things, I was not involved with this particular moment but that's what happens. You get signals some sources from different places in you try to piece together and the fact that there is a disconnect between the federal state and local government is this happens all the time I think. In some sense I mean particularly, this is a moment where. Local officials have not requested. This had had. Obviously, the the president seemed to be interested in making kind of point out of Portland and Seattle and kept name dropping Seattle even though. There hadn't been the focus on federal buildings in Seattle that there wasn't in Portland. and. And so they're like all these different political games going on to and the governor had been more public in attacking the the President over time about related things so. Chaz like how many times tweet about it? You know so I think. There's through a lot of this and that's reality in the as journalists also, just because you hear it from one source doesn't mean it's accurate. Your job is to talk to a lot of different sources and figure out what is actually happening right and chase. You've pointed out that that confusion about the Fed's arrival is is a really good example of why skepticism is always necessary for a journalist. Yeah I mean it was interesting that that Saturday protests because he were writing off of that Friday news and you saw you saw that crowd it was there were a lot of different groups and interest represented that crowd like all the protests that have happened in in. SEATTLE. And you had a lot of moms who were suddenly appearing because they wanted to be a part of the the wall of Moms and then you also saw the sort of the the more regular protests that was still focused on SSD and You know no new youth jail and so it was that confusion really created a unique crowd that I think led to the the event that we saw. One of the things that I also feel like I keep seeing is. is in. This is something that a lot of us. Are Having to do in the local media sometimes is were prefacing information that we have about protests with police say right sometimes, the police are the only source of information that we have. So we preface what we're reporting with Seattle police report or police say given though that we have seen examples throughout the course of these protests swear the police are not giving us the full narrative in some cases they're telling US false information is just prefacing information with police say enough like those words are doing a lot of work for US Jennifer. What do you think? Yeah I agree with both chase in caring when it comes to just making sure that you're being really diligent that you're talking to a wide variety of sources and people not always taking authorities at their word but really questioning and Mike Shea, said remaining skeptical I think that's really important and I think you know one of the key routes of journalism is staying curious. and I think it's also stained curious of information that is handed down. From, no matter who it is and of course, even with A. Police Agency as a journalist. I want to be able to trust that the information that is being disseminated through that entity is going to be accurate but you know just after working in this field, you know there have been moments where sometimes you know we get ahead of the curve even before law enforcement and then that information comes out confirmed a couple of days later but I think that's also a conversation of. Ethics in journalism as well. We'll Jennifer your newsroom q thirteen is One of the newsroom's here in Seattle, in addition to Cairo seven Komo and King Five that is involved with a subpoena from the Seattle Police the Seattle police are trying to get a raw footage material from your news room and the others to try and identify they say someone who's a fire in late May I won't ask you details about what's happening right now we know that the King County Superior Judge sided with the police in this case but why should people care about the outcome of this case? I'm just GONNA, put it out there that you guys know as much as I know. And just for everyone's like understanding on. The police are after video footage and it's combined with all of the different news outlets, hours and hours on end of video. Of course, police work does take a lot of time in even just using the example of body camera footage That's a lot of work to sift through So I mean just even from the standpoint of the actual video that they're trying to collect will actually be helpful to their investigation I think I think a lot of journalists have said this will set a dangerous precedent when it comes to our coverage moving forward because really like who are we serving What is our duty to the public? Right Karen. Because we're zoom I could see you take a huge sigh when I asked that previous question. So what are your thoughts on this? I think. As, journalists you WANNA be able to cover public events and public protests. On a variety of topics and If. If there's a chance that your your reporting, your your unpublished reporting through photos notes video could potentially be released publicly and protesters general know that why would they ll allow you in their midst? They talk to you why? Why would they not hurt you in some cases and so I think the argument that news organizations are are making this that it's a physical risks to the. To, the core work that journalists do kind of First Amendment type A free press work that journalists do. And so I believe the judge had had narrowed the requests and said, these are the kind of the. The few example, few cases where under Washington State Law that this is allowed, it had its focus. Did they exhausted other resources? It was four a very serious crime. CETERA. Et. CETERA. But I think the the the fear of the news organizations that I've read they have. They have said in their. Response, to the suit is that it creates an overall problem for journalists that could be physically harmful in covering future protests and just generally harmful to the ability to because I. I. Think we've all covered pro. You go up there and you're like in the crowd and you're talking to people and you're like, I wanNA talk to me please taking pictures or you're doing whatever and the fact that you become very exposed. And to do your job, you want people to be able to talk to you. Chase you said that there's really no way for for journalists to come out of this looking unbiased. What did you mean by that? I mean, it's a tough situation because if the news organizations fight the subpoena, then it sort of seems as if they are working with protesters in some cases near the Seattle Times talked about how some of the readers were saying. Why are you defending criminals assuming that the protesters were were being criminals and then if they don't fight the subpoena, it obviously can seem like they're working with the police in it creates a a tough situation in that regard. So I think the best way forward is for news organizations to be really transparent about this process and where they are at in the process and I think the the all time has done a great job with that other news organizations have been really front with process and I think that if we can continue doing that with the public then it can maybe help us with the situation, but obviously, it's it's tough in either direction. One of the things we've seen both you know we've we've seen this from the police on occasion we've also seen and heard this from activists is that there there are times when they're very clear that they do not trust local media because of decisions that we have all made in the past about how we cover different issues You know we're talking about a specific situation that's happening right now but you know given that we all sort of are sitting on the legacies of our institutions I guess and the choices that people have made. How do we move forward in good faith you know covering stories like these ongoing protests Karen what do you think? I find when people talk to one is a journalist. It's really different than the opinion of you more broadly orb news organization or something, and that's always the challenge is to get their foot in the door to the conversation, and that's part of why like physically you wanna be able to be there and to talk to people. Because I, think people generally I've like, Oh the New York. Times fake news or whatever, and then you talk to them they're like, Oh, you're a human human let's talk backcheck and they appreciate that things like that. So It's a hard long long process in some. Some of it is survivable not there's also Just, a bigger social era were playing into a social divisions and Social Media and all that stuff and some of it is just not in our control and you can report on the effects of that. And some some fat's like journalists power is to report on what is happening and Tisch to help explain people understand it but It's complex. It's complex. Feels like is good a places any to leave this conversation I we could spend the rest of the hour just talking about this but instead we'll take a short break and then we'll be back very shortly with Karen Weiss, chase burns and Jennifer. Lea. I'm Jeannie handle this is the week in review. This is the weekend review from O. W.. I'm Jeannie Yandell sitting in for Bill Radke, and with me I have the digital editor for the stranger chase burns q thirteen reporter, Jennifer Lea, and technology correspondent for the New York Times Karen Weiss. Karen. As you mentioned before, it has a busy week for Amazon yesterday. The company announced extremely high earnings for the second quarter of the year beating the estimated earnings by four hundred, ninety, one point, nine percents. That's a very high percentage and the same day that was happening Amazon founder and CEO Jeff bezos was talking to Congress although based on the conversation he might have wished he was somewhere else than July two, thousand nineteen your. Nate Sutton told me under oath in this committee that Amazon does not quote, use any specific seller data when creating its own private brand product. So let me ask you Mr Bezos Amazon ever. And Use third party seller data when making business decisions and just a yes or no will suffice sir. Thank you for the question important topic and I also want to thank you for representing us. I can't answer that question. Yes or no. What I can tell you is we have a policy using seller specific data to aid our private label business. But I can't guarantee you that that policy has never been violated. Okay. So that was Washington State Representative John Paul talking to. Jeff. bezos Karen. What's going on in this clip? So. This was at the big and I trust hearings on Wednesday it's actually day before earnings that's fine and this was the Four CEO's of Apple Google facebook and Amazon were up talking new facing the House Antitrust Committee and the first time just as US had ever testified before Congress unlike the other CEO's and this was the opening question that he faced and it gets to the question of broadly of Amazon's relationship to the sellers who make up the majority of set produce products make up. The majority of sales on the website. So you might when you go to Amazon Dot com more than half of the things that people into buying are actually not sold by Amazon Amazon is just a marketplace like ebay or whatever. That's kind of facilitates the sale, but Amazon does sell products directly in some cases develops its own products directly, and so this responding to questions that. Whether or not Amazon misuse the data from the third party sellers to create its own product and that frame of I can't tell you this. But what I can tell you this was kind of a common response. Jeff bezos had the in the hearing because. A lot of things came down to individual situations and he would say that's not. It's not supposed to happen that way I don't believe that's emblematic of our business Takes. A lot of pride in the in the number of. Third Party sellers on marketplace they see the small businesses that they helped facilitate in the digital economy, but there's also clearly reported extensively on this as well. A lot of distrust and a lot of frustration with Amazon as well. of yes. People sales make growing their profits have been shrinking over time and things like that. So this was kind of a key issue of of Trying to hold him accountable for something and him saying in theory Yes sir. No but in practice I can't say. So. anyways it was kind of one of the more tense moments in in the meeting people kind of anticipated his first exchange. I feel like I have seen tech CEOS brought to Capitol Hill before and be grilled in front of a congressional. Committee. But I don't actually know if anything changes result of those those discussions of those hearings. What is the purpose of these hearings and I mean, will we see any changes from them? So to some degree, the purpose of those of this particular hearing the way it was set up was just to have a public way of saying, this is a concern that's why the committee did it. If they really wanted to use this format to dive in and get new answers, they went up chosen this format they wouldn't have had all four CEO's. On the same day with very different companies, the Amazon's business is very different than apple's business, for example. And they would have had more time to kind of go into each one individually. But. At the same time, there is power of being able to pull them all together and say, broadly, these are four of the largest companies in the world they're all in this industry there are some commonalities in terms of them kind of. Having with a player coach role to some extent apple does have its own APPs in the APP store and it also controls the APP store where other third party developers. So but I think the overall thing which is to get attention and to say like this is the thing we're working on and looking at, and then how that translates into new law enforcement is a little bit different some sense of different question. Okay. So Congress showing their work, I guess a little. Bit that's something. Yeah. So I wanted to I wanted to mention something that we just heard in this last break, which was the high temperature today, which is going to be eighty degrees. So the past couple of weeks have been warm for Seattle they've been hot they've been sunny in the before times. Obviously, you know things would have looked a little different. We might have been going to swimming pools going to lakes rivers a little bit more things are obviously different now. But. One thing that does feel familiar about this is this argument that I feel like I've been hearing I've lived in Seattle for going on twenty years now in it's this argument that Seattle is not a place that needs air conditioning. So full disclosure I have air conditioning also sitting in my basement, which is like ten degrees cooler than the rest of my house but also we're spending a lot more time indoors. Now pandemic wildfires have already started climate change. These are both reasons you might want to close your windows and have air conditioning chase burns. You were born in Florida the swampy confines of Florida. What is your thinking? HOW SEATTLE SORT OF ADDRESSES HEAT I can't be a hypocrite air-conditioning because Florida exists because of the invention of air conditioning essentially. But I do think it's funny that I think people are going to react. Like they're owed so hot when they sort of reached the top point of the however hot, it gets in the region so in Seattle, it's like between like fifty and eighty whenever gets to eighty dealer so hot and whenever gets to fifty people are like auto called and I think a lot of it is just like we have to do that as a culture so that we can mark the the changing of seasons and so I get it I lived in Minnesota workout like negative twenty and you're you're not going to be like it's old until it's that low. I I'm not going to shame anyone for having air conditioning I. Don't have air conditioning just because my apartment didn't come with it and I sort of like hate window units I'm always afraid that they're gonNA fall out which I know is a little rational but I'm just like I can't trust myself with this big machine but I yeah, it's. It's a you know sometimes sweating I think is good for you. It's a little bit of a detox as just let it happen for. Monday, was like a little bit too much though. This your work from home. Right people used to go into air conditioned offices. In offices or in a restaurant, how they see or something you know a hospital but now you're doing telemedicine whatever it may be. Yes that I feel like. Every summer we have the how most Google how much does it cost to see and then we don't do it. So it's it's the handful of days and you move on it does at least it drops overnight mostly. So Karen are you saying that you are okay with this idea that Seattle is a place that doesn't need air conditioning we place that considers it. Never, make that investment. Is Yeah I. Feel like it's not so far but I don't know if that will change. Okay. Climate Change and. There was very hard. Was it two summers ago when there were the really bad fires during the heat wave and you couldn't you couldn't open your windows to cool off and legitimate I. At the time and I was it was really hard to like keep them. We put them in cold water baths. Yes. I remember that very clearly remember walking outside and there was all over everything. That was something Jennifer. What do you think? Can we finally let go of this notion that Seattle is a place that doesn't need air conditioning I'm like listening and learning like a year into Seattle from the northeast Mark Been Telling Me New Jersey, getting like mid nineties So I do have an air conditioning unit but I swear, I, think I've only used it like two hours at a time. Really cold at night. So I mean, I'll take the tips like what is the most efficient way to air conditioning in Seattle. I'm a crazy lady. I like open everything up in the morning when it's cool and around like nine am shut everyone knows every door I just go. Totally nuts. If as a couple of hours at least. I will say that I feel like in the past I know that certainly k. u. a. w. has done stories on which way you turn your fan or how to make a swamp cooler all of these things, and perhaps we can just load all of those links up as. Bar Houses down when we need to, and that is the end of the week in review for today. Thank you so much to my panel Chase Burns digital editor for the stranger q thirteen reporter, Jennifer Lea and New York Times technology correspondent Karen Weiss. Thanks for weighing in on the very tricky air-conditioning issue as well. Our Show is produced by Sarah Liebowitz are livestream online is brought to you by Juan Pablo Chiesa and Papa Skew Zaki is your host next week I'm Jeannie handle. Thanks so much for joining us. Have a great weekend. Have you donated to K. U. O. W. recently hundreds of companies in our community matched their employees contributions to nonprofits like, Hey you oh, W doubling or even tripling the impact of your support at no additional cost to you continue the spirit of giving checkout. Gifts page by clicking the link and your streaming player or visiting K. U. O. W. Dot org slash match.

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My pants have spontaneously changed color. Them Magic Pants my pants full of water. Water unlike the dishwasher tackling the day before the vote Tuesday. Donald Trump Rosen angry six page letter denouncing the entire impeachment process. People said it was unhinged and unpresidential. But let's look on the bright side when they first told Donald Trump. He should write a letter. He sat down and just wrote the letter B.. One of my favorite things about the letter was that the mayor of Salem came out to correct the record. Yeah about about the Salem witch hunt. Yes because I should say that. President Trump said something that some of his supporters have said that the witches in Salem got better treatment than he is. And what did the mayor say. Just cast a spell no she she had to explain it. Innocent women were murdered because of false accusations and therefore it was not analogous to his situation. That's that's that's that's a good system but also also analogous. 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The main source of the delay elderly passengers in wheelchairs being pushed Kline airline employees who has to make multiple trips to load or unload other passengers and supplies. We realized we needed to maximize each employees trip down. The jetway says Sun Country Airlines FELICIA FLOM in empty lap is a worse crime than too much legroom. So this month the sun country inaugurated its jetway wheelchair lap share program before pushing an elderly passenger up the jetway the employees employees loads up the passenger's lap with pillows and blankets with pallets of peanuts. And with that other source of jetway delays babies and toddlers. At first. I didn't know whose baby was being thrown in. My Lap said Hazel O'Leary eighty-seven but I do love babies. The most controversial aspect expect the program on the lap of particularly hardy looking seniors. Other seniors are loaded said that very same Hazel O'Leary. I don't think they knew I was already sitting on the lap of a man who looked just like Lorne Greene. Wh when that baby was put on my lap I was in heaven. The one of these real idea on how to improve efficiency at work is it from Adam Burke new kind of toilet in Britain written that sloped forward. so you just can't comfortably on it for very long from Roxanne Roberts dog-walking company that's making their dog walkers use those dacas scooters is to get more dog walks in or from Morocco Sun Country Airlines. Making sure they don't waste that space. In the lap of wheelchaired passengers which of these the real story of efficiency that we found in the weeks news. All right we think all we. That's you seth you think it's a and that would be Adams. The story about the toilets seth do you. Can you tell me why you think it's a bad influence enough All right well Sean. You've chosen a Adam story well to bring you the correct answer. We spoke to an expert in the field of the real story. The New Standard Toyland is actually a toilet was a sloping. How people use the toilet more convenient because Raymond Martin managing director of the British Toilet Association Association talking about the sloping toilet? Congratulations Sean and seth you got it. Right you've earned a point for Annenberg you're telling the Truth Prize Voice of your choice on your voicemail. Thank you so much replying. Thank you bye-bye. And now the game where people who have risen very very high peer down through the clouds to see what they left behind Jennifer Lea graduated from film school a little less than fifteen years ago and today. She is the head of Walt Disney animation animation. How did she get to be the first woman ever to hold that job and so quickly well? A few years ago she wrote and directed a movie called frozen which became the highest list. Grossing animated film ever made and now just as we were finally able to get let it go out of our heads. She's back with frozen. Listen to Jennifer Lee. Welcome to wait wait. Don't tell me I just have to say being on the show actually a highlight of my career. Because I think of everything. It's the one that's going to make my ex husband really jealous uh-huh. I am so happy to do that for you. Given the joy you've given me but I have to ask you don't think. Thank your say winning an Oscar did that. I didn't ask him. I was too polite of really now. What's interesting to me and and I say this as a father of daughters who saw a lot of Disney before frozen came along is that we know about the whole thing about the Disney princess in the beautiful woman? Beautiful Girl who's rescued literally by Prince Charming and the great thing about frozen is totally subverts. Is that your intent. Did you say to yourself when you were given the chance to make this movie. I'm going to completely stick it to all those princes uh-huh I will say. I have to give credit to Chris Bach My. He's my fellow director on the idea of having true. Love not be romantic but some mail was was just something that we thought was fantastic and to do a film where two sisters or two women are not at odds but are actually trying to support each other. They were just things that we wished we'd had grown up with and we'd never seen so You know there. There's some fun we had with Hans the spoiler for those of you with with kids who haven't seen the movie more than say six hundred times but hants of course is the guy who's introduces that literally the handsome Prince who's going to rescue the young heroine and it it turns out. He's a cad and I never seen that before. Did anybody from Disney. 'cause of course this was before the movie was a huge success. Did anybody say how we're not sure about this. Oh no because they. I mean they're now pretty much fifty fifty women and men every woman said. I've dated that man. We the one that can I ask is your ex-husband named Hans. Did you ever do any research or I. I don't know how you do it. Into what the core audience the children would want from a sequel to frozen with. They would wanna see we. We didn't really in the sense that we felt like if we we had so many requests of what we should do. If we listen to that we wouldn't build it in a true way. We did however do a lot of research search where we we went to Finland Iceland and Norway. We walked on glaciers. We went in deep in the forest and in fact we actually took a ship called the Hertie grooten down the fjords of Norway her written and oddly enough well we were. There are team had lunch with Peter Single parents. What what I had absolutely no idea with my parents they go on cruises? What else did they do? This is what happens. They come home and my mother says we met these people on the boat. They're big fans of yours that she doesn't say oh there with making frozen to. It was very excited. I did I had. That is amazing. More potent question can you. Can you weigh in on this controversy. Talk About Olaf Height. Oh Gosh Yeah I. Apparently around twitter there was some video game that said Olaf was five foot four and that would put all of the other characters somewhere in the eight to ten foot range. Argument went back and forth. Really trying to convince the world that they were giants So I think it was a Typo. I checked with production. He's a three foot five from frozen toe to tip his little wooden twigs. quit the controversy. Can I ask which frozen character sure. Do you think would be the most delicious I mean. I think there's no doubt it. It'd be great if that makes right. You'd be a little sugar beautiful. Can you tell us where Walt Disney's frozen bodies. I didn't know anything when I went to see frozen the first time in my daughter. That's what I thought it was is going to be. You saw Disney's frozen all right one more question before we get to the game so obviously part of the Disney experience is that for every movie. There's a huge amount of merchandising and we all saw with Elsa and everything with frozen do as the director of the creator of the film get to approve proved that stuff or is that out of your hands. Well we do the first film. We did almost everything but they didn't think we would sell that but This one we actually have a whole team because we can't there's too many thousands of from around the world. I think there should be a line of foods. Foods frozen foods is a thing I well Jennifer Lea. It is a pleasure. Is Your to talk to you. We have asked you here to play the game that we're calling. Let it thaw let it thaw. You May to frozen movies. But what do you know about frozen frozen foods. I was ahead of the Kerr. Were we're going to ask you three questions about iced cuisine through two out of three correctly do that. You'll win price one of our listeners. A Queen Bill Kurtis Halloween costume now. Just actually voice message bill. Who is Jennifer Lee playing for? Sarah Reese of Los Angeles California. All right you ready to do this. I'm ready. Here's your first question. There are a lot of frozen foods with celebrity endorsements and tie INS including which which of these a Larry. The Cable Guy's official get her done grub biscuit and sausage gravy meal be masterpiece frozen peas. He's more see Tom. Cruise Diet dianetic delights. Oh Okay I want to go with Tom Cruise. You really want to go for the Tom. Clearly saying it shouldn't be because you're hesitating the most though because it was so long was a Larry the cable you want to go with that one okay. That's the one very good. Here is your next question. A huge part of the frozen food business naturally is frozen desserts including which of these a license to chill a popsicle the shape of Daniel Craig's naked. Torso be the Inuit Pie. More woke ice cream sandwich or see. Frozen Rosen. Flaming hot cheetos. Oh I do because my daughter would love. I'll go oh good feet frozen flaming hot cheetos. No in fact believe it or not. It was licensed to chill were popsicle in the shape of Daniel Craig's naked torso all right the heyday Jennifer of frozen food was the nineteen sixties. which was when somebody tried out which of these business ideas is a pillsbury frozen flour being rented chicken which would provide you a mother hen to sit on your frozen food and warm it? The natural way or C. Tad's thirty varieties of meats. It was a chain restaurant where every table had a microwave for you to cook the frozen food they would bring to you. Oh God oh I'm going with the you're right you did it. I did go to the restaurant microwave which they did have a very large from our eyes and they drink I stick it in microwave. Anita the restaurant chain did not last long. Aw shock no how did filmmaker Jennifer Lea doing our quiz two out of three for Jennifer Louis. The generally the chief creative officer of Disney animation. Her new movie frozen to is in theaters. Now Jennifer Lee. 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Pride parade made their flow to just a car with a bunch of bodies in the trunk. The Mafia the mafia after decades denying I I remind. Let's go back and say what was that sort of Horsey. I thought it was going to be the rough riders. Yeah no I think the rough rider Rega- from from the jump eighteen ninety off all right. I mean seriously isn't rough riders a gay Bar Chelsea. It's in the West village after decades. Denying that Thur any gay people in their ranks. The Italian mafia recently began welcoming members of all sexual preferences into the family. which is more than can be said of some actual families? So congratulations grandpa a worse person than a guy who literally buries his enemies in concrete. It's nice now that the mafia doesn't care who you sleep with a man women the fishes so what happened. I should tell you is a powerful crime. Boss discovered that his own son none doubled as a popular drag queen. Presumably we hope under the name. Gal Capone Ah Cosa Nostra. Actually it. Actually it'll be great. 'cause this will change the entire like rank of all the mafia cliches. It's like you come to me on the day of my son's wedding to his partner. Craig leave the gun. Take the CANNOLI. I made it myself from a recipe on Queer Eye Roxanne. This week we learned something incredible about our ancient ancestors they like us. Would sometimes I just drink from what sadness drink from the milk carton no imagining prehistoric milk cartons. You seen you see they would drink out of the Apparently especially used these when the order was to go a McDonald land last Straw no not a strong vapor in April. I'll give it to mow disposable cups. I was disposable cups in prehistoric work-time and yet Roxanne they were they were cover. They were made of papyrus. There were not made it papyrus flat day were they were disposable mammoth skull. They were discovered it side skated to four thousand years ago there. Apparently these these clay cups and and why were they. Disposable are through a prehistoric drive-thru. Haven't you seen the Flint's the documentary the snack. I don't believe leave this archaeologists say that these were cops there were cheaply and simply made cups that they would just drink from them and then they throw them in the ground and we found remains it was not until three thousand years ago that would begin again to use reusable clay cups right after the invention of sinks to pile them up in. This just wasn't a FRAT party. Ecological site site where they found in. They all broke the glass. It's true that they leave. They were used for mead. Peng fight fight better cro-magnon when the cubs were convenient. It was really tough to get your order at starbucks when they have to card the card of the canea form of your name coming coming up. It's lightning fill in the blank. But I the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air caller leave a message at one triple eight wait. That's one eight eight eight nine two four eight nine two four or click. Let contact US link on our website. WAIT NPR DOT org. There you can find out about attending our weekly live shows right here at the Chase Bank Auditorium in Chicago. And if you want more or wait wait in your week. Check out the award winning. Wait quiz for your smart speaker. We're not saying which award because we don't want to make this moment less impressive. Hi You're neuron we don't tell me hi. This is Neha from Philadelphia. How are things in Philly beautiful called? Yeah well that's what it's like there. What do you do there? I'm an artist and I about two years ago. I accidentally became a middle school English teacher. So I do that now. Oh my gosh what. What a terrible accident? How did it happen? Did you fall into a classroom and you couldn't get out now really vague craigslist ad really. Did you think it was like a real estate listing with a lot of roommates well meal. Welcome to the show bill. Curtis is GonNa read three news related. limericks with the last word or phrase missing from each of you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly and just to the lyrics. You'll be a winner ready to play right here is your first limerick Amazon. Thinks I'm a trumpster. They sold trash and now I am a grump stor. When my box was unsealed close inspection revealed I bought items? They found in a dumpster. Yes very good. It's not a dumpster diver. You're a dumpster entrepreneur. Amazon is cracking down on people. Reselling items they have found in the garbage cleaning them up and listing them on the Amazon marketplace. This explains why you're supposedly brand new. Instant Pot came with a family of raccoons. The story was reported in the Wall Street Journal who analyzed thousands of reviews of suspicious products one review said their purchase was quote a naturally sticky have been happy if it was naturally sticky. All right here is your next limerick this brandy brandy soap. Dove make sure boots shake. But don't eat it or you'll have a tooth break. It's been on display since my great grandma's Ause Day it's an ancient and nutty old cake. What'd you say family? Michigan Chicago has a particular heirloom one. Hundred Forty one year old food cake. It answers the question. Finally what is worse than figgy pudding. Hundred and forty-one is very old for fruitcake in the sweet spot for the Democratic presidential candidates older than Joe Biden younger than Bernie Sanders. I I just want to say this because we always bring this always comes up fruitcake. Christmas fruitcake is good yes it is a delicious big Atri as that you you should enjoy when possible gets better with age so this one this one. I wish the candidates debated about this. Ah All right. Here's your last limerick with its new. Move to make the game stronger. Monopoly couldn't be wrongdoer. The game is twice aces analysts and we're twice friendless. They've doubled the board now. It's monitor longer. Latest version of monopoly is the worst one yet. It's called monopoly longest game ever. It's perfect for that family. Waiting one hundred and forty one years to eat their fruit GEIC. It costs only twenty dollars specifically designed to take forever to play. The board is twice as big. There's only one die in the only way to get out of. Jail is through a lengthy appeal process. Can I suggest that they make another. The game has gone on too long. They make another game called the SEC. The comes in and break the monopoly. When you think about it? Monopoly is so weird. Why would I want to pay rent recreationally for a longer monopoly? At least do they have the decency to make the little play pieces like a really sharp item back stab my hand. My Eyes Bill. How did doing our quiz? She did a middle school perfect. Well done thank you graduate. 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They got five right ten more points. He has a total of thirteen. We now go to Adam. And how many does Adam need to win hated. Aided the eight eight here you go out and this is for the game on Wednesday. A federal appeals court struck down the individual mandate a key provision of blank. The obamacare. Right on Sunday officials said the first phase of the new trade deal between the. US and blank was completed China right this week. Bowling announced it was suspending production of the grounded blank. Planes seven three seven seven right on Tuesday whistleblower claimed the blank church at potentially dodge taxes and billions of dollars in donations like police in New Mexico. Were able to track down an armed robbery suspect who held up a pizza hut because he blanked while trying to escape put an order pizza. Mary face planted into the door and left his DNA behind on Thursday the CDC warned that an outbreak of the blank had spread to sixty schools in Minnesota. The measles. 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Optometry Podcast: Path to a Healthy Practice with Dr. Millicent Knight

Defocus Media

41:58 min | 10 months ago

Optometry Podcast: Path to a Healthy Practice with Dr. Millicent Knight

"This is a de Focus media production. Looks Up, everyone this your favorite optometrist Dr. Daryl Gloveman. Generally. Resident optometry narrate welcome de Focus Media Tommy Trees Number One podcast where we discussed the hottest topics latest technology I wear practice, management and more so sit back. Relax the focus, hello and welcome to new episode of the Circus Media. podcast I'm Dr. Jennifer Lea and I'm here with Dr Darrell Glover greetings colleagues Jin Hurry doing day great. How's your practice experienced Ben during this time. Jim has been great, but right now. I'm actually wearing several heads the technician on the doctor. I'm the cleaner. Everyday is a struggle, but every day is great because I'm doing something that I love, and then I'm very passionate about. Overall everything's been pretty cool. Why No! Those are words that our guest Dr Millicent night can really relate to. She's wearing many hats right now, and it's all because of her passion for optometry dot the night. If you don't mind telling us, you are and the mini hats that you wear with Esa Laura's well well. You know what I'm. Senior Vice President. Customer Development at ESA Laruso. We mighty manages sales training. any kind of key CPI training education that takes place. We're responsible for professional relations. Sponsorships schools, so we've got a lot of laughing on the between that lately the last couple months since we've been sheltered from all I've been both Own At home school teacher. As well as a short order. We're. It's been pretty pretty intense south wearing multiple hats all that hard work taking care of home playing superwoman basically. Have you done anything that's been fun and exciting at all. Virtuoso Commencement address today and For my for my undergraduate now that's amazing. Yeah, when of the things I said was out of this daunting situation comes an opportunity for each of us. Do better and to be back. And, so it's it's almost a reset opportunity, and for a lot of cases that's that's a good opportunity to get back into the near look at Your Business. Look at your mission. This is still makes sense. Is the business plan tight enough to take you into the next situation that we might go into so this is serving as a wake-up hopper number of us in a in a big big opportunity. As I said you better than. What he shares exactly what we want to talk about today, because along with team at S, Laura Dr Knight has developed a healthy practice guidelines to help offices, not only reopen safely, but to foster the long term health of practice. You can access information by going to s alert. Pro Dot com back slash Kobe Dash nineteen. We're going to be breaking down the key points of this guy to get practices often The Gate in maintain that success going forward. Person I want to say is that you know we're stronger together. It's an opportunity particularly view in a small practice by herself. This is probably not the best time to China navigating. Learn all the information that you need to to find to be able to really bring your practice to the next level. number one is a lot of information out there, and so are organizations that can help call information, but it into a database make an easily consumable. So that's where I think like We hope we can talk a little bit more about this minute, but having like a study group or a be apartment, alliance or something where you does not out there by himself to navigate this this journey that we're on right now, so it's a good opportunity to choose your partners well leverage the power community. Look at your state associations. You're national associations. They all have a plethora of information available to be able to guide you through the steps that you need to do both first of all your business own and keep this sound and solid. And then there's cynical advice and know that the way was running webinars every maybe every weaver reese on a regular cadence were they were communicating information for next steps and best practices around going after cares act and information around that really how you navigate that whole situation and then all the alliances and they know vision source in particular was out front early on really getting in there, getting that information gathering data a special hop setup. Who Bit nineteen up that was set up to deliver that information to all the members and it'd be share those early practices for those who were really out front, or those who really didn't closer offices of all the were open emerging emergency cases Angie. Really be able to share some of the some of those practices rolling on. So I'm best. That's that's one of the first hips, and then you know. Who you can be the best in the world, but if you're opposite close. Because it's not financially sound. that. That's that's really not. That's really a disservice to everyone. All stakeholders including the community so not to mention you staff. Your patients for the whole community suffers case, so it's a really good opportunity to make sure that you have access to. Who can help advise you. When you run into a crisis as not the time to start looking for a personal banker or a lawyer, and I you have to hire these people necessarily, but you need to have access to them. You need to have access to HR specialist. Someone not be navigate some of the intricacies of that. We know about you guys, but when I graduate more time to school. HR was knocked in cricket not at all. So those are the things that are kind of challenging, and you should be doing the things that you do. Bess you get somebody else to do those other things. You should be generating revenue for the business keeping the business strong and solid you the leader of the business. You get somebody else who can best do those particular things that really happen at the practice. Now those are some of the biggest things in this is a great opportunity to really take inventory on your manufacturing partners in your partners in usery, because this is not the time to to have fans, actually relationships. This is a time to have to partnerships. And no I know what s Laura. We've provided who are ECP university. Freak recourses for SAP members Noel people were sheltering in home. This is an opportunity to take that time and really sure in areas where you might have some gaps, Yvette, an optics, or for your staff or or the most important area to which is front this. You tend to quit the weakest link sometimes on. The thefts, the most importance five and you need to have someone that really understands how to comprehensively manage that space and get the best experience for the patient. Absolutely, we provided that those types of resources better available again. This is the time you get key partners and leverage them. Everything you're mentioning is an important part of the healthy practice. Guidelines tip number one which is choosing your partners. If you have partnerships or relationships with vendors aren't providing a valuable benefit to you. It's time to rethink those. Could you share some of the value of being a part of a doctor's Alliance right now? Maybe there's no I was when I was in practice. I owned practice for about twenty years in Evanston Illinois. And I was part of vicious source for about thirteen years, and the reason was I like the power. And like an early adopter. Technology I was able to have access new information and I had medical malpractice was alike access to I'm including education in a lot of that was relatively new or the masses of optometry. So. We had a business access dramatically female information in space access to allow technology. The best pricing in the industry on that technology, and so it from me out moving my practice because I'll tell you what happened. In two thousand I had to make a decision. Do because like a critical point like now, I found my mission. I thought my business plan. And I decided that I needed to expand in offer greater services across the board so I was going to do more I- wellness. It was going to do more medical I and I was really going to spend the critical time talking to my missions, women vote prescribing the cheer furs, and then have reinforce so that you can only done half the job if he spry the the the medical solutions drops. Things like that, and then you don't. Need due and address with some of the Petit Computer Vision Syndrome that we've all been going through. With working from home. If you're only doing, you're only doing math job if you don't give them the article solution that they need to relieve some of the in and visual strain that they might experience, so it was just this time to reassess all the tools that you have at your disposal and there's a lot of information out there, but the thing I loved about source was she had someone that you reach out to right away with the civic issue that you after your practice, and if they answer in counseling. We just nice in half right your fingertips access to community of people who thought very similarly people who are here about their businesses here about the experience of Michigan receive, and really care about monitoring their business and tracking following metrics, making sure they've been growing the most successful business that they can while providing the best patience. That's what I love. You know the that you bring up a great point. You know having a team having a village having someone that you can lean on and ask questions makes a world of difference, because you have to have a strong supporting cast and being a part of alliance group I can clearly see where that could be very beneficial. Agreed things about alliance groups in particular about vision source, I was just on another podcast Webinar not too long ago and apparently the running joke is with folks. Go to these different conferences in. They're buying equipment or products whatever it may be Everyone's always like I want the vision source price, because apparently you guys give the best price or get the best pricing when it comes to negotiate for the team members of the practices that you guys have and then eat that umbrella. So I mean I could see the strength in having a team I could see the strength in having that buying power, but I know there's a lot of other things outside of just buying products and having that breast price point if you don't mind just talking about that a little bit more detail as well. On Djibril. And this particular time periods where to me. The intangibles really became priceless the opportunity to have that hub that you could go through that. You can get step by step. This is what you need to do to get paid to get your money to be able to know what protocols you need to implement right away, so you stay in a safe space honey. To your patients, how do you gain confidence on you? Help your nationsbank confidence and I'll tell you one other thing. How do you get your staff? Feel confident you as a leader or taking the right steps to safeguard everyone's health including their. Their, their some tangible and intangible CENA's patients might might might. Be Staff Mike Voice that they're uncomfortable, but if you think about it, they're all frontline buyers and. ECP's in general and you know I've been reading a lot of research on data, particularly around ophthalmologist and a lot of the data comes from China and nephew. Lot of patients are seeing comprehensively by off. but I think it applies to the US. Professions here in that we are the frontline providers. We are the ones who are seriously at risk because number one. We spend a lot of time. With the patient in tight orders. Emma to. Traffic the comes to the office. So is time and space the amount of time you help people. You have coming in in the amount of time. You spend a close contacts, and that's why having those protocols having early on in making sure that you have a champion, you own a practice that make sure that everyone is following them every day after each patient each hour each day. And a new staff member comes on that person starts over with them and make sure that they are all Surena. Because you can't drop the ball. You can't get comfortable after Ron Gant get relaxed. You really gotTa Keep Council. Wow, this is great, because I know an early stages of covid nineteen, and even now everyone was just freaking out i. mean they would just really losing their mind. Mind about what was going on, so the having alliance group to have a team to have support to have a team that lays out all the protocols is kind of like almost having a cheat code or cheat sheet. You know something that could really make a make a difference in regards to making your practice. Go forward or even allowing your practices survive in this tough climate as well. As as a leading any factor, we responsibility to make sure that we. Did the research and Yan as a partner in knowing that you all were in practicing, still are super busy, giant manage manager own business, so if we can spend time doing some of the research in getting some bad information and best practices together to package it for you. That's what we spend some time doing and we did that. Or even those customers who are not part of the alliance's the alliances into of course, take that data and ticket to the next level. Because they also eat Is this metrics that need to be tracking during this time period? But you know the the the the really important thing is that we make sure that when you're ready to receive our sales team back in your office, or however you want to make contact with him because what we have. Impress upon on them, is that? This is a pretty unsteady time. And he boy trying to incorporate new rules in new systems in place and so they may not be comfortable. Seeing you face to face right away, but they need access to you. They may may resources that they need by the way, so however the customer he said the Turkish. That's how you exercise it or when it's time for you to come back in face to face. We trained our sales team They'd know what kind of protocols are going to be in place. They know how to come back into the office. Not Be disrupted and they're not gonNA. Take Eve your up because it will have their home. That's great. Especially being that is a lack of PBA. That's out there. You know I wanted to circle back on something tonight I wanted to go back to tip number to stay financially sound in the current climate with covert nineteen. We are finding out that a lot of practices and some big practices are not truly. Truly financially sound. We're seeing that you know. A lot of these practices have been exposed. They thought their business was great, but in reality it's really not so I'm curious to know. How can an alliance group really helped? Secure the finances. I mean. What is it that they do to make things better for practice I? Mean I know the government right now is out there, helping out practices, but there's only so much they can do, and it's only gonNA. Go so so far, so let's talk about how an alliance group can really change the game when it comes to a certain climate like Cova eighteen or something like this happens down the road. Probably to part one is Kiki some of the information that's made readily available through the sea. Maybe hard to navigate taking that information consolidating it, and making it much easier to consume in a way that makes sense for your practice in this, not as time consuming as if you were doing the research research yourself so having direct access to that and also having people who have actually gone through the steps, and had neither believed successful or not successful in cases, share out that information so that the next person who? Who On to do better and so having access to that information, I is really critical, and then the second part is just mining that with also again taking a fresh look your own business, and making sure that the the steps that you've been sort of marking to still make sense or your business and reassessing what you're spending on, you know you need to be spending at this time. Money on things that are business critical. Now, so we evaluating your spending habits spin pattern. What's important? What's necessary to keep the business and you need to escalate the practice of you? Take the P P P money and hire everyone back that may not necessarily make sense right away cheekily if you are Radley weaken the volume of patients coming in, so you WanNa Kinda. Match those things up so that I again you're not putting practice in position aware shortly after you started your quickly on of resources again. Because because you don't have the volume. And then this is a great time to take advantage of not having the volume and when I mean by that is when I like to call given that that concierge type care. Spending extra time with the patient that you may not academy. Yourself in really given that all experience in talking them through why they need certain broads why they're having some of the challenges that they're having with their is in ice train next thing strain back strangling then all those things that people don't always fit together headaches new. They don't always put that together. Underneath the umbrella of maybe I've been spinning eight hours straight on my computer, and then afterwards on digital devices at night and then I'm onto vices at night late. Where you know the my Melatonin is not able to kick in. Do it supposed to do to shut my brain down with sleep, so I wake up the next morning without a full rest, and I'm tired I'll over again, and it's just having the time to really have a conversation with them, especially as it relates to their children and an and then with children. Youth. They're in contact lenses if they're myopia management. If you're doing anything like that, making sure you spend the extra time talking to them about hygiene. Children are going to be touching there is. We, often with our eyes are glasses doesn't matter if your contact lens wearer spectacle where we tend to touch face in the one thing we know that we need to do is touch any of the orifices on right. It's just it's just an opportunity to really be that Dr in May eighteen and manage well that doctor-patient relationship in to make sure that everyone in the office is doing. I think actors might find that. They love practicing in this new slower pacing. Planet on paper sounds really scary to your revenue to think you're only seeing fifty percent of your normal patient, though, but if the german-style price is hundred percents. We're doing before and the catcher rate news increase significantly. You know you. Kinda Mike. Come out ahead and now we've got some new habits, some habits and hopefully stick once you do have the volume back and talk about ways in which you can grow to practice I mean that's just GonNa. Take you straight up. Your whole heartedly agree with you Dr Night I. Mean I've had the opportunity to see patients every thirty minutes, and the game's changed. I mean I've always been one of those doctors that prescribe from the chair that will hold the patient's hand and. Just. Really give them that experience, but really solve their problem. Give solution to make their life. But now I have more time to really have that intimate conversation to have that dialogue to take it to the next level, and not only do I have that time, but my front desks has time. My optical team members have that time so every step in the office at the patient touches you know they're blown away by just that one on one customer service and I've seen an increase in the capture rate I've seen an increase in the overall reviews from the patients I've just seen overall a better experience at the patient is experiencing, but also what the team is experiencing as well now there is one con being that we are on a skeleton crew. It does put a lot. Lot of wear and tear on our bodies and mentally so at the end of the day I'm spit I'm tired and I know my team members are as well but I do hope that we all take from this experience making that relationship making it very intimate making that relationship with that patient, unlike any other experience that they've ever experienced whether it's eyecare anything in life, because that will ultimately keep that patient hell to the practice and increase the bottom line in grow the practice, and we'll come out of this cove. It even stronger I think a lot of it is just keenum I said having fun again. You like you said you. Love and I know you do but. Being taking care patients, and when you see them happy when you see now really getting some joy out of their experience out of the selections that they've made, it makes a difference. It makes you feel like one would an extra time and energy. To get things right and when you all working, you know I was a one hundred meter relay runner in college and pass, but it didn't matter how fast you're. You don't pass that but time, right. You've lost the race right so anything in the in in the eye care center. No, the the front desk person's GonNa. Pass onto. The technician gotTA pass off to. The doctor was gotta pass off to the optician. It's got to be seamless, and this is an opportunity at right, and once you get that right? It makes it fun. It makes it fun. This great experience for the patient Integrative Sneers to the staff now the staff gauge and they're engaged because they spent some time. Hopefully, they spent their time wisely getting themselves more confident and better educated on products and the. The. Reasons behind why scribes products when I perspire something, you need to know why, so that you can have conversation on a different level with nation to make sure that they understand the reason the rationale behind why there may be a little bit more. This is an investment. It's an investment in that only wearing something they makes you look good, but something makes you feel good something. That's healthy. Let's talk about step number three for building a healthy practice which is preparing office in staff. You mentioned earlier about the safety protocols that are available at Esera pro dot com. Around the country I think many people are eager for the time when they can see paces again without a mask on or without having to wear gloves that are interfering with our ability to avert lids or express my movie England or having to do with the fogging at the slit lamp when wearing masks, an-and, none of us can predict the future. But how comfortable do you think we need to be wearing? P p. e. for the long run with patient care. You know the person who was the first person sort of blew the whistle on the whole thing that was initially suspicious that in his hospital there were multiple patients who were in ICU in isolation. Any question did. And he questioned by didn't get solid answers in the meantime. Meka, going that same nations well This particular doctor happened to be an ophthalmologist. and Dr Wayne Lang was actually seen as symptomatic and say that's lonely, so we know that you know is not just the people that are coming at hopping Bieber that readily turn away at the door. That's why you have to keep protocols in place. That's why you gotTA. Make sure your staff aware. He eat because he was seeking Glaucoma follower. That was a matic, and that's when we contract the virus from. In that was in. January seven. In by February some news. Is You know. Most people were smelly. Don't have that kind of outcome is probably it was in an environment where you're just from Bard. It in. There was no protection air at the time and they didn't have visibility to that. But, we do know now and when you know Vada you need to do that. And it's it seem a little comp summit I, but given the choices you know, and you gotta take care of the patient. I. Remember when the HIV epidemic. And, we didn't know a lot of information at the very beginning of it. You know we didn't know how it was cast didn't allow information still and I remember a new patient walking into my office and say I'm having I think in neat rows may face. So both Tom. Just know where I'm going with this. And, and he said. I. I need something. I am HIV positive and I understand if you don't WANNA see. And I said. I'm adopted. Why wouldn't they see so with that? You got to put the rice safety protocols in place so wearing gloves and making sure the night cleaned everything down, and I followed up with him the appropriate way that she was a patient. Rely I love practice, and you know it's just so it's the same thing here. We've got to make sure that we are doing whatever we need to do to take care of ourselves. Take care of the patient, and that needs to be communicated actually with admissions before they come into the so if you've been calls for a while and you're about to open. You should have already been indicate. Indication. First of all really communicating them in a human way. Let them know that you have that that you know you're taken aback by so situation while being honest and its way of connecting with the patients and heard a lot of not just say they feel closer to the is now through this ordeal. Those who who have been communicating on a regular basis, but you need to communicate with them and let them know when you get open. And with hours of going to be and with the new protocols can be. That early then they have an opportunity to let us settle win so that they're not taken aback and that they are ready to have this new experience in the office and another best practice I heard is you've got these really great staff members who with the practice forever? But they're over sixty in there in the high risk category. And let them do all the follow up. You do need to make sure that you're confirming US appointments, because if you're only seeing patients every hour or either you said that you you don't WanNa, know show. You WanNa make sure that you've got somebody on it. That's. Answering the questions hold in their hand, telling them what to expect most importantly telling them how excited you are to have back office. And even when you have on a mask and your staff as the mass, they'll tell me you can't see that's right. You smile with Ya. And if you have big cheeks like me, you'll see the mass moving around every time you talk and I run my mouth a lot in the practice, so you see my mass constantly up and down up and down. But on a serious note, a smile can really change the mood of the practice. I mean when you're smiling. It just creates positive energy. You know not only. Do you feel good, but it also radiates to your team members to the person that's in front of you. That patient and I know for me when I feel great I'm GonNa. Give you know beyond exceptional I. Care and I know my patient. Patient when they feel great, they're gonNA. Want to spend more and create more for the bottom line is well just simply because positive energy will start to resonate and everyone in the office, and it just creates positive things, so it's very important to make sure you smile, and who cares if you have a mask on your eyes, smile cheeks move makes me smile at in the practice. Guys you guys do. Things that you can do to that to that wing to is just making sure that you have regular communication staff, it might be a ten fifteen minute hot on beginning of the day. Just kind of level set get everyone on the same page. Mitigate any issues that may have happened tonight and four. You can kind of start off fresh. Make sure that you work through that and there's no inside. The and everybody's ready to go you know, and then just like children. Your kids can tell when you're stressed. Absolutely, that's for sure. If you're trying, you can try and pretend. Through it and you sat hand to your stress. They're going to feel that anxiety from you and that's going to stress them, and they're not going to be able to deliver for you to the patients, so it's really important. Self care and I'm going to. The most important thing you can do for the practice against to take care of yourself. And you're not healthy. And you contract the virus you down for another fourteen days second mean the difference between the practice surviving not surviving and you know just doing something like just to get. Make sure you're getting good grass. Good meals like you said you get home and you snack on some veggies and their labor yet. But, if you can't get enough that way, there's a lot of news reporting agents at news antioxidant than News Noviny seed saying. Make sure you get those in on a regular basis along with the nicely and along with exercise, even if it's just moving around short periods of time, exercise sleep and the proper nutrition that you need you need to set. The example got great grown to good opportunity to put some of those little snacks in there. You Sell nutraceutical through your practice. Make those available to your staff. Just. Make sure that you do things that you need to do to take care of yourself because you can't take your patients if you're not the I agree You know one other thing that I do every day is I. Think each one of my team members and I look him in the eye and tell him thank you so much I tell them like. I have survived through this day without you with you. You've made my life a lot easier. And I think each one of them every single day and a smile that they give me and the energy that they create and the motivation that you know just that they get from just that conversation. Just simple, thank you. It's just mind blowing to me I. mean it really creates an environment in the office? That's just so positive and so great that you know. We're on a skeleton crew right now. We all are on the same page at Hey we have to. To make sure that we take care of each one of these patients, we have to find a solution for this patient. We have to generate more money to be able to bring more team members back, so we can all be one family again and being able to create a great atmosphere for the patients in general so for me. I love to tell my team members. Thank you and I love. That gives them the motivation to go to the next level, so that's one other thing that I like to do just to create a better environment in general. Helping! I love it. Bring it on. Programs in place that we want to launch in. We'll be launching over the summer months just in time for you to get into your group with patients and you know we got some some grey campaigns that are going to help you. Sell multiple hairs. We're GONNA move that some some programs place like are smart technology that will help your patients have a seamless experience with scheduling appointments when it's convenient for them necessarily when it's convenient for you, so we WanNa make sure that the your heart and your potential nations have an opportunity to get to know you, and they can do it in a seamless he way. That makes. Access to your office instead of the appointment at nine o'clock at night. That's works for them without even bothering because we've got the technology and marketing tools to be able to do that. Wednesday schedule that appointment. We can also remind them of you. Remind them and the reasons why you know we all know this is Thomas than their. Over two hundred sixty seven diseases that can be detected through the is, and I'm not talking about IDC. Implying versus Tim Diseases. That's information. The has made about available to all townships. But there are so many other reasons why basis should be coming in, and we don't always have an opportunity to. But heart of our technology is to remind him. If you'RE BILLINGTON VISUALS, strain years type of technology that you WANNA, ask the Doctor Valley Miss. Your and your visit is by the way. Today and make sure that that point. It makes out absolutely. That's what it's all about. You have to make sure that you have that intimate relationship that person that comes to see you. You gotTA. Make sure that you give them not one hundred percent, but two hundred percent you gotta create an experience that is unlike any other that they've ever experienced, and that that relationship that intimate relationship needs to be developed at the front desk with the technician. What the doctor with the optical team member hell even with. With the person that may be cleaning the office, but you have to be able to put them on that pedestal and give them two hundred percent every single time they come into your office Akron I each year, some of the great programs from s Lord that will be launching in the coming months from second pair sales initiatives to new scheduling technology, but one of the other great resources you have for doctors is guidance on establishing emergency plan. What tips do you? You have for doctors to prepare for financial trouble in the future God. Forbid happens, but we probably all realize we need to be better prepared. Yeah, so I think again it goes back to you looking at Your Business Plan looking at your business with fresh fair buys me by now had a chance to do that. With fresh pair is and making sure you have a team available. That can really help you. Make the right decisions around your business if you never use. Use a practice consultant. This might be good time to to check one out. You don't necessarily have to higher than for full scale operation would you could utilize into taking i. look at Your Practice War, maybe your new business man or whatever your new ideas are to make sure that they are sound and make sense where the for the business we make sure that we have six months of catch. You know I used to say you even have read it. Or you need to have a lot of money. I have one or two. True. We've learned from this situation. You gotTa have some money set aside. Personal banker. You need them line of credit. You need access to capital and the time to do that is now now when you need it, it's now. So those are the types of things I would you and then just make sure that you continue to keep updated with information. This is this whole epidemic that we're in is continually. Jd is not going straight is turning to missing and just because I don't listen to eleven hour. A month ago doesn't have the most information. Have the most accurate information today. Proposition you gotta invest the time and Energy and the head Spain's in continuing to be agile into of your practice according. To the you mean, those things are really need my mind that you need to be doing on a regular basis to which your practice in a position that when an emergency happens. Your. And something that you mentioned earlier when it comes to banking, you really need to have that relationship with a local bank. I mean we all are. We always are talking about support local business with eye care, being optometrist, but how many of us are really working with local banks and you know during this covid nineteen crisis, those that have had those relationships with those local banks have been able to get that. Triple money. They've been able to get those loans. They've been able to make things happen. Because I've heard a lot of horror stories with folks that are business owners in with some of these bigger banks. They haven't been able to get access to those funds. They haven't been able to have conversation a dialogue with those bankers, because it's very important to make sure that you have these relationships, and when so when tough times take place, you're able to just pick up that phone and make a call 'cause. It makes a world of a difference. As you said those relationships should always be already being placed with not this opportunity, and this is an opportunity also for your community. Known as the expert. And you're. You're the expert on is expert and healthcare many ways you can be expert on how to manage to navigate through this cogut epidemic that we're in this opportunity to do that really scale of your visible in your community, and to so people know that they can trust you and they know that they're going to come into a safe environment and that they're going to have an experience. Document you're absolutely right. We really have to set that. We are experts in our community especially when it comes to I care, so it's very important for us to show our facing our community because our patients look at us as leaders and as leaders, patients are gonNA come to us when they have problems, but also as leaders This is a good time to you know. Rub elbows with those legislators that are out there with those politicians that are out there because when they see us on the front line when it comes to scope expansion when it comes to protecting our rights when it comes to pushing bill through. They're gonNA. Think of US first. They're going to be like May. Love on a front line he was helping to solve those medical problems. He was making it so that it was less folks going to the ER and going to him I to help out with I care. They're gonNA. Think of US and they're going to help. Pass that bill because they know we are in the community. They know that we are on the front line and they know that we are great when it comes to anything healthcare related as well so it's very important to show our face and be active in the community. When I was in practice I. Love My legislators from the state representative from both sides of me. The congresswoman. Say Woman. I say Senator they were all patients. So, I had an opportunity to talk to them about any legislation any bill anytime the humor for their points, and if I had an issue with getting. From the local bank I would've gone to them. That's when you develop a relationship with them I. support it now I. support it everyone of their. And they supported me and in any initiatives Tommy Hat, so those are the types of things you need to form those relationships for you need them I have an uncle best congressman. He's always said that that the time to reach out to yeah or to someone I cam is before you weeden them, because as an early on and their campaign in their junior says they remember that. And so. The other thing I wanted to point out his optometrist have some of the lowest depot rates in the country. When it comes to loans, we don't default on loans. We pay our bills. That's all the more reason why you should have a good banking relationship with your local bay. This is, this is a time its renaissance time. It's a time for us to do reset. Stop Bank reset a give ready to to elevate the practice and take it to the next slow love that phrase of Renaissance Time because out of times of illness, historically there have been great and beautiful results. If you think about the black plague in the renaissance, coming out of it, for example, hopefully as we get on the other side of covid nineteen, we'll have optometry reimagined in a bigger and better way. Thank you so much for your insights today. Most remember that we're all in this together. Awesome well, thank you so. So much Dr Night Remember. You guys current times very challenging. It's no doubt about it, but there are some amazing tips that s Laura's providing for you guys just to recap tip number one choose partners and leverage power of community tip to stay financially sound through the crisis. Tip Three. Prepare your office staff for patient return tip for communicate with your patients and tip five plan for the future. If you WANNA look into this and a tablet more detail, you can always hit up esl pro dot com back slash Kobe Dash nineteen doctor. Thank you for hanging out with the focus. Media Team have a great one. All right colleagues, it's a rack daily for hanging out with de Focus media team. 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Jody Barton

Sci-Fi Talk

23:28 min | 5 months ago

Jody Barton

"Now another addition of tony tomato on cy fi talk from lord of the rings Abraham votes join sounds as creepy man. Who your mazda. Someone i to perhaps. Wow hey that's great. Appreciate my guy. The archangel gabriel is really. What is most important. Is that burnham forgives herself because as burn my carry a tremendous amount of guilt and shame. Shame is alex. Zahara played re god's zales to iron shirt. The one eyed us breaking code rush omen coca were not sci-fi talk papa. Typical behavior effects. What's it like care for you both to kind of act two things that aren't there. Well you know sometimes you have an experience anyway like gone in part because of the hopeful nature of genes vision but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion long and prosper. Hi welcome to sci-fi talking today. i have jody barton. Director actor and writer of a film called four jennifer. Welcome it's great to talk to you really interesting premise Let's take a macro view. I it's a very unique film because it's actually part of a series that That was developed. Talk about that and Was her any coordination with the other films in this series at all so back in twenty twelve james. Brisac and chuck pappas made a film called to jennifer. Which was the first first film. Ever shot on an iphone first feature film and so basically from there that that ended up getting some Some attention and and and it did pretty well. And then hundred. Johnson came along and made a film called to jennifer sequel Which is kind of a meta sequel Which is about a guy who basically is obsessed with the first film and then comes back and tries to kill the people in the film. So and then frank. Merle came along and made from jennifer. Which is the third film in the series so and then for jennifer is the film that kinda ties all of the all of the timelines together the fourth time this year. Did you have pretty much autonomy in doing this film or did you have to follow any kind of of master plan or anything like that No when james came to me about About doing the film the idea was to give me an opportunity to To write and create and put it all together myself. I had the great fortune of having james and hundred and frank All there to help them be a part of the process of it but the film itself was I had full autonomy with it. You mentioned hundred. I hundred johnson. And frank frank merrill who are who are co producers along with yourself and so pretty cool. I do like the idea of a film within a film kind of situation and especially the the lines being blurry what what led you in in that direction for this. Well when i when james came to me with the idea the first thing i did was rewatch all of this show. Of course i seen him and i obviously a big part in the first film But then also was brought on for the second film. As well and i'd seen had been to the premiere of francs now but i went back and i just kind of watched everything just to get an idea of what what the fourth film needed to be. How would tie all that. It's not necessarily tie the storylines at first but just what. The common thread was that i could keep going with the fourth film. And then when. I did it and i watched them all. I found that kind of common thread storyline that i felt like Could could work very well in fourth now. So that's kind of how that idea came about so another common. Trade is of course. Felicia rose who is jennifer. And she's an all the films which is kinda neat out place. Jennifer smith the audition shifty fastest tiffany passengers jennifer jennifer lea okay. It gets confusing with. We have a number of jennifer's stephanie's. And even joey one of the one of the things i try to do in the fourth film was kind of tie in some of the names and a bit of the mystical effective. What these jennifer movies are doing to the people that were participating and how was dominique. Swain involved Dominique had worked on a project with james of trying to run thinking he was blood craft and they'd recently finished and it was the time when i just i finished. We were just about to start up production on the film And we started talking to dominique and she had seen the other films and express some interest. In what the project was and when we talked about it more she said you know i'd love to be involved in my thought was like i've been a fan of dumping swain for a long time and and i thought well there's a chance for me to to bring her in and get her talents involved with the movie. I want to do that so so we went back. And i went back into the script and i looked to see where you know where we could bring her in. And we kind of beefed up that that part with joey and Joey and her and him and his friends and so we just kind of be fed up a little bit to give her a little bit more to do in the film. So combining the the film and real life and can kind of blurring those lines. I could see you can do that on the page. How does that translate to the film itself. Where there any changes you had to make along the way As far as blurring the reality of being a reality found footage style film to what is real life and that question Yeah i mean. I you know we obviously were plenty. A whole film is playing with the idea of you. Know real people making a say. Cora movie But the real people are in a movie in that movie is a real or a movie. So those lines kind of overlapping Were a talented at times. Because it was a challenge to make sure that we kept everything honest and genuine with the with the storyline. So it it really it really in the end of the matter of just planning and making sure ahead of time that That we knew you know that all the characters understood what their specific motives and that's the seen were and I mean i think in the end it It hopefully it plays out in a way. That isn't Overly convoluted or confusing. How much time did you have to shoot this production. It's i mean. Actually shooting days we had. We did ten days in a row and then we shot There were four or five other individual days that we picked up later so it was about a two weeks shoot The you know the whole process with editing and everything we ended up you know from start to finish probably getting the film done in about a year and a half so so we're able to do it somewhat somewhat quickly. So the editing took awhile. Yeah two week shooting. Federal even which pickup days. That's still pretty aggressive. Yeah we we were lucky to one of the things when when making independent low budget films You know the the series itself is You know the the idea is that anybody can pick up a phone or a camera and make a movies that the technology exists right now that that anybody can do that. And so so when i wrote the film i i was writing with the idea of budget. Mind so you know so we have. We have just a few locations. We didn't have. We didn't need a lot of extras. We ended up obviously for the party scene upfront and then we were able to bring in a kind of talented prince of ours for the audition scenes as well So but outside of that there wasn't a lot of locations or a lot of extra people needed that was purposely. Done and i i think so he was able to. We're able to make the more efficient compact do you find. Because you don't have a huge budget that creatively. It's more challenging. And maybe you concentrate. More on the story probably creatively more challenging but also opened up more creative opportunities and possibilities. I think certainly from the when you're when you're thinking of it there there are a lot of limitations so when you first writing a script and you're thinking story you have to realize okay. Well i can't. I can't have this helicopter. Take off and then blow up in the air. Because i can't afford to have a helicopter and blow it up so so when you're thinking about it ahead of time you're able to to plan for those things and then when you get on set and when you get to doing it and their specific shots you need. Are there things that you need. that don't fit in line. What you have you have to try to think outside the box in figure out ways to do it and particularly with a with a character perspectives They're still calling it. Found footage style. movie There are certain angles certain things that you can't get because we have to justify why cameras their first place. Which is one of the things at split screens really helped with once we once. We realized that this was a full movie that was being put together by one of our characters. In the film we realized that we had a little more leverage with with post production and that we could go in and and Do things to clarify some of the storyline of the audience without actually taking away from the the world that we're living and you actually are in this bill and have been in some of the others as well. What's that like to kind of be in front of the camera. And in this case you were directing as well. Yeah i mean. I came into this industry as an actor. And that's where most of my work has been so the for the first film itself. James and chuck They had been basically they had film process started to. They were shooting a film in virginia. That didn't go well. And then they picked up a camera and just start shooting something by the time they came to los angeles They had some footage shot. James called me up and said do you want to be in it. So i came out this project initially as an actor and then one hundred made his second film. He wanted to bring me back as jody. The actor who played martin in the first film. My perspective is always the that so. This is the first time that i've had the opportunity to get the perspective of filmmaker which is nice because there's a lot more control when you're filmmaker how much control i have over the actors in the editing room so So but it was It's it's been really. It's been a great process very happy to have to dive into it and And hopefully i'll get to do more in future i. Why don't we take a short break. We're talking to director. Jody and co writer of the film for jennifer. And we'll be right back back with jodi barton as i mentioned earlier. The co writer and director of the film for jennifer. What's interesting about your background is You didn't start out to be a to work in film. You were actually Worrying attorney is that right yes. That's yeah yeah. I i Uh practice law in texas for five years. I did some criminal. Defense work As well as worked for place called the rights project doing Civil rights litigation So i that was one of the handful of things in life. That are always really wanted to do and i. I got to a point with with laureate where I when i was. When i was younger i acted in school in and did all of that. And and after some time in law i went and took an acting class and it just didn't take long for me to go. You know what i'm gonna. I'm gonna put this aside and i'm gonna go to a place where the opportunities are more available to me and so i backed up a little car and drove out to la about ten years ago. So so would you say to bug bit you a little bit. Oh absolutely yes no. I i i The first acting class. I took i remember the first problem the first line i remember walking out of the class going. Why have you not been doing this. Or your whole life. so far so So yeah very very quickly. I realized oh this is something that i wanna do. I wanna do for rest of my life. And if there's a way that i can find a way to make a living at it and that's all the better. Wow it's risk though to to kind of have one profession and dropped that and and go into another for sure. Yeah i mean i. I've i've had a few i. I worked for a few years on the east coast. I've i've kind of. I'm kind of good at that and doing doing things for a little while With with this business and with acting found something that If i can if. I can keep my self sustained and make a living room. I think i'm sticking to it now for for directing the film. Are you the kind of director that compiles shot list or do you know coverage wise in your mind what you wanna do that day. We wouldn't The night before we would go through with a with a specific shot. List the issue with us in the way that we were shooting with multimedia style cameras Is that we. It's not it's not. It's not your standard style shooting where we're not coming out. We're going to get your close up here close up here. You're wide here like that's not the way we're shooting so some scenes ahead one camera we will. We were only using one camera. There's one person holding a cell phone and filming what's going on and so that is more about wears the action going to take place. How are we going to move in a way that's gonna make sense. And how are we going to get all of that on camera and then in other scenes like when we talk about the finale scene there are cameras all over the place. All we're doing is we're getting all the camera setup and put in place and then letting the actors do what they do and then making sure that we get this specific shots that we need within the lens of any one of those many cameras so it it because of the style or shooting. It made it a little different. Maybe a little more Say improvisational onset. The way we had to try to figure it out based on the space it made although planning was done Those plans were often changed on the spot when we when we had to adjust. I mean you have to be fluid when you're making a film and especially that you know the challenging aspect of this one with the different cameras being involved that you have to who Have to go on to fly. And that's also the the staple of independent film to yeah. It's it's the fun of making independent film as a freedom in that you know you you sacrifice sacrifice the money to get you all the shots and things you want but but you have the freedom to create and find ways to tell compelling stories so how does it feel to kind of be at the end of this of this journey of the jennifer films Well i feel great about it. I i p people continue to ask if there's gonna be a fifth jennifer film which is for the most part out of my hands But we've had people that have reached out that have had some interest doing it. I this point. I don't think that that will happen. The way that the way i wrote for jennifer was the idea that that this show mcgrath up The series itself. It would give a kind of a again a through thread of the story lines so that it could look as a kind of a complete set but it also ends in a way that allows you to see where it could go in the future. So it's a it's a. I think it's important vehicle for somebody like me a hunter Franken made a couple of months before that but for the most part we are all fairly new independent filmmakers trying to find ways to To get our work out there and does a vehicle for that. The series has been has been wonderful so i very happy if somebody else wanted to jump on and make a film of their own. I'm i see that there's a good ole. Imdb's has hunting alice. This is a pilot film. is that What's this you play a character. What's the status on. That is going to move ahead. I mean were nobody shooting anything right now. So it's kinda maybe might be in limbo like a lot of. Yeah i mean everything is on hold right now And so we're all just kind of waiting. Things out is still in pre pre production So i don't know there's not a date at this point as far as when when that started so right now. We're just yeah. We're just waiting things out. I know that Project hundred johnson is has been wanting to work on And that's probably going to be the next thing that i help out with from behind the camera. Oh so yeah just just waiting it out right now and hoping that Hoping that we can all get back to work soon now. I heard that dave released guidelines for for shooting and what that entails. I don't know that would apply to the indie world But supposedly. They're pretty strict. And i haven't read them but that's what i heard he'd been released kind of like a roadmap for hollywood to come back in a way but Yeah something has to happen soon. Otherwise our fall. Tv's can look very very diff. Yeah i figure everybody's just at home writing right now so there should be a lot of ideas. There should be some great scripture being crackdown. The plan is definitely. I will say that was directing everything you expected it to be. Oh i don't know what. I don't know what my expectations were You know as an actor you can be very singularly focused on what you have to do. and that there's a. There's a joy in that the joy in in in having one and trying to accomplish that as best as you can And as a director particularly director of independent film director and producer and writer of the film. you know. There are so many hats that you have to wear Yeah that it it it. It's a whole different experience in project. I It I y- the the benefit of doing it. Though of all of that work is is being able to have an idea and then put it on the page and then watch that go from the page to screen and see how that develops and turns into this thing and as an actor. I have the one thing that i've control over one thing but i have control over nothing else and says filmmaker being able to really put my ideas out there And get them out there. In the way that i wanted to was the was the most satisfying part of the experience for me. And i'd yeah. I'd love the opportunity to do it again. So so yeah. That's what i'm looking for. It's a it's a fascinating process to meet the film making 'cause you write something and then you plug in actor into the roles and they bring their own experience. Maybe the way they deliver. Certain line is not what was written. But it makes it better or different and maybe lead you in a different direction and And then you end up having something that's similar to the script but it evolves into something that its own. What age do you concur with that. Or what's your feeling. Yeah no absolutely. I mean again. It's coming out as an actor. I I always appreciate going on set and and having the freedom to explore and play and see where this character is gonna go and and how this how he might react here might say this line. And so when. I brought The actors on for four jennifer. I tried to give as much space to allow that as as i could The script for the most part there were some scenes that weren't for the most part is descriptive was pretty tight. I wanted to the dialogue. Was what each individual actor brings. I could have never thought of when i was writing. I have an idea of what i think it should be. But the hope is that you bring talent on that then makes it something into you. Something you could have never imagined in something. That is better than you could have ever imagined. And i feel like i got that with with my actors and in post production process. I know hunter edited film. Were you in that room as well or did you. Kind of leave him to his own devices now. I was very much involved with that. I i We spend eight to nine months Sitting together Going through all the footage In putting together I you know i. I had a very specific idea. For for which shots we're going to be important for which scenes For obviously for some of the scenes it was simply a matter of which which take do we use. But i. I had a very specific idea for as i was shooting as to what the film is going to look like in the end that i and i i knew it was important that for us to get as close to that as we could that i needed to be sitting in the room from the beginning Having hunter they're having somebody as editor as opposed to independent editor. Who doesn't didn't really know much about the series or have a feel for the series Being able to work with hunter on the editing part of it Gave me somebody there who understood what i was trying to do. Understood the series understood it from the perspective of his film And he was able to give me so many great ideas as to how to put it together and so it so it was. it was a collaborative process. But i was. I was definitely involved at all time. Well i really have to credit all of you for for doing something. This ambitious on an independent level. It's really almost unheard of you. Don't see this very often and two and then for you to kind of tie abo- on this at the end to that's That's very commendable. Well thank you. Yeah we we're again. We're really excited about the whole series itself. Not only was it. What it what it says about independent filmmaking and the ability these days with technology to just get out and create that any of this who wants to do it should be doing it and so hopefully it's. It's the kind of project that inspires people to To do things on their own and put it put more fra. Put more things out there. Well thanks so much. For being on the podcast. It's been a pleasure very enlightening and you talk about your film for jennifer and the series for that matter. So thank you great. Thanks so much for having me on tony. Anytime speaking to jody barton. Whose co writer colm. Producer and director of for jennifer definitely. Catch it catch the whole series if you can. This is really fascinating stuff to do. Something like this on an independent level. Thank you all for listening and stay. Six andrew robinson plays garrick that mysterious desk on deep space nine. And i'm here with my friend. Tony on side talk.

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The city council is vetoed no more, this week

Week In Review

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The city council is vetoed no more, this week

"Hi this is Bill Radke. Thanks for tuning in. Glad to have you here on the week in review I am joined by my reporter super friends from q thirteen reporter Jennifer Li hi, Jennifer. Hi, everyone. Good to have you here. David Crewmen reporter for cross cut good to talk with you again, David Bell and he Li- Sanders from the. Not. Not The stranger, the wild west newsletter ally what's happening? I recently left the stranger and taken a leap into the email newsletter yonder. I am writing an email newsletter on sub stack called wild west. If that is. Really in. Ally, you're breaking up a little. Will let's work on that. We'll. We'll. We'll get you some technical advice in your ear, but that's the wild west newsletter. and. You just heard Eli, use the word Yonder He may be using wild west phrases just like that. But I know that it actually he's covering in this newsletter is covering issues around the Internet, the wild west of the Internet and how the Internet is being regulated and not being regulated and being held accountable, and checking fact or not checking facts. So we'll talk about more about that down the road. Okay. Let's move on. Let's begin this week with our sort of our top story this week, which is that Seattle has started defunding the police, the city council this week overrode the mayor and moved forward with cuts to the Seattle Police Department and investments in some non policing. City Council President Lorena Gonzalez said it was a matter of principle wants to be able to tell my daughter who I'm currently holding in my arms. That I did the right thing. And that I voted on the right side of history. Jennifer what did city council vote to cut this week as they overrode the mayor. There are actually three council bills related to the twenty twenties, Seattle Budget, and the one that I think a lot of people had their focus on was the council bill related to SPD. So. About three point four, million dollars will be cut from the department Originally, they were supposed to be cut supposed to be cuts to about one hundred officers the harbor unit, the navigation team. So, this was something that was obviously very controversial. There were ninety minutes of public comment from people who were phoning in from all parts of Seattle including outside even council member Andrew, Lewis's home. I'm so this was something that has been a hot topic since the summertime continued to be so. Mayor Durkan had vetoed it and you know there were even talks about backup legislation if this override vote didn't happen. But yeah, that's what ended up happening ends. I will tell you till the very end Opinions were packed in this meeting. And there were some butting heads again that we saw amongst council members as well. Yes, that's true. Well, it was a it was a big deal. As you said, it was a hot topic this summer with some council members the majority of council members saying Yes to protesters activists demand to cut fifty percent from the Seattle Police Department. But David, instead, it's like seven percent at least for now. Why why the why the big change? Why did we go from a declaration of a fifty percent police department cut down to for twenty twenty budget a cut of three million dollars out of four, hundred, million, seven percent. Yeah I mean there were some early headlines that said that you know there's a quo proof majority of council members who are ready to cut the police department by fifty percent that I, think were maybe a little bit misleading early on I. Think there were some sort of. General support for the idea of getting to something like that eventually There were a few council members who were ready to do it right away specifically council member Sean Masao on but. It also became clear that there were certain things that would make it really difficult to cut fifty percent of the police department this year namely that a lot of the discretionary spending were the sort of the the spending didn't have anything to do with personnel had already been spent for this year. So the department had already spent all of its money on overtime had already spent all of its money budgeted for equipment and things like that so that cutting fifty percent of the of the twenty twenty budget for the police department would mean cutting. A lot more than fifty percent of the personnel who worked for the police department. It would have been pretty dramatic, and so I think the council realized that they realized. That there were some fairly thorny labor issues that we're going to be pretty difficult to go get around and so. It became the IT transferred from. We're GONNA cut fifty percents of the Police Department who were making a quote down payment. Toward creating this sort of new. And what they say is a better public safety system and so we heard that quite a bit this. This is just the beginning and we're gonNA keep doing more. So. What's the lesson in your opinion? Well taking the long view I think one of the lessons is that the political leaders in the city include the mayor and all the members of the city council has been way behind the curve on coming up with concrete plans for addressing the calls for better policing in the city. You know we had a mayoral election not too long ago and Council Elections Berry recently, and since the killing of George. Floyd. Obviously, the cry for really rapid reform has increased, but it's it's just striking to. Me that a lot of chaos that we're seeing between the council and the mayor and the council right now is the result of no one having a plan on the shelf to say, yeah, you want reform I've got it right here. I've been talking about it for years. No one had a workable plan on the self that could get a majority of the council to get the mayor's approval that they were ready to run with, and that's that's a big failing I think of our local leaders. Jennifer. This has been described as a down payment. We've got the the big. Next event is that we're going to come up with a budget for next year because a lot of this year's budget, it's been spent but the mayor's GonNa come on Tuesday I think and propose a twenty twenty, one budget. If this has just been the down payment part of it. What do you expect to? Happen how much more police cutting and other investments do expect I think ultimately, it's yet to be seen I. Think we have to wait to see. What Mayor Durkin presents a just based on the information I've heard you know she is promising to invest about one hundred million dollars into black edition indigenous and people of Color. I'm communities to show support to them to also bolstered strengthening public health and safety. But based on what we've seen in recent months and you know kind of go back to what I said about a concrete plan. Am I think that is a criticism that council has faced about making promises in moves without really setting the table for a real concrete future plan So I think it's going to be really telling, I, think they are going to be Some decisions made maybe again like we saw in the past few months with twenty twenty fiscal budget. I'm where they might have to go back in work on it again and it's it's going to be a long process especially since the city is also facing a major deficit multi hundred million dollar deficit. David crewmen you came up in my conversation with the mayor yesterday because she had said that because of the city's Labor contract, the police officers union, the officers who get laid off because they're going to cut one hundred positions through layoffs and attrition. The officers let go we'll be the newer ones who are more likely to be people of Color, and you told me on the air this week. Well, the Labor contract doesn't actually require that and I brought that to mayor. Durkin yesterday who told me you know I really respect David's work, but he's wrong on this. So I still trying to figure out WHO's right well. Thanks for throwing under the bus on that one. I. Bet did beat it like that. Next word I I mean it's you know I think. I. Think how? How the city proceeds with layoffs is an open question and I have talked the city council thinks that it can appeal to the body in the city that is tasked with. Litigating these sorts of things the public safety civil. Service. Commission. And they want to appeal to that commission and say you know basically give us the green light to lay people off out of order. I talked to the executive director on that. You know this has never been tested before like there's there's not a very clear rule on how this gets done. So even the person who eventually will will decide whether or not this can be allowed has not come up with an answer of how that's going to go and so. You know the I'm not gonNA gift. I pro- I probably shouldn't get into a back and forth on legal issues with the former. US Attorney of Western. Washington. As as somebody who has not gone to law school but. The question of how realistic that is. I think legitimately an open one. Okay. Well let's talk about since we're talking about policing the Seattle Police Department faced another test this week with the Kentucky grand jury decided not to charge the officers who shot and killed Brianna. Taylor some Seattle lights took to the streets most mostly peacefully of course, but some splash windows and parking meters, threw bottles. David. How did the police respond? They responded how we've seen them response pretty consistently There was some back and forth. There was pepper spray US blast balls used. The bike officers used their bicycles to create barriers and try and move people For anybody who has been following the protest of this whole summer at what we saw over the last few days. is is not a typical. I would say what we not atypical from what we've seen actually over the last few years. This is the cycle You know we saw in May for years, and now we're seeing here where The just there just doesn't seem to be. There the these these protests nobody has really figured out a way to do these. Quietly or without controversy. was there tear gas this week? In Seattle I know a federal judge said, you know ordered Seattle not to use tear gas on peaceful protesters But we but we all know that protesters get chaotic and the peaceful get mixed in with the not peaceful and. And then there's tear gas versus pepper spray can somebody help me understand how Jennifer how did how are police responding now and how did they respond this week in terms of non lethal crowd control I'm on video that I saw surfacing from the grounds of the recent protests and people taking to the street. We saw even with that one video that you know a lot of people have now seen with the officer whose head was hit by person with that he used pepper spray and there is a difference between a tear gas, which is yes Different. Chemical compounds I wish I could explain better but pepper spray is different than tear gas and I know even just a couple months ago when there was a lot of police force and attention shown on the streets of Seattle and a lot of damage, there wasn't any tear gas used I haven't heard recently, but I can say for sure you know based on video that pepper spray was an. ally. What's your response to police police actions regarding the Brannagh Taylor protests this week? Well. There's the video of the officer getting hit with a bat, which is, of course, concerning, and then there's also the video that shows an officer riding his bike over the head of I assume it was a protest or someone who is prone on the ground and. That also extremely disturbing imagine having someone stand on your head. That's essentially the fourth of having the wheel of bike plus the officer on the bike over your head front wheel, and then back wheel and so is not behavior that we should be seeing from anyone never mind people who are paid taxpayer money to defend our right to peacefully protest and defend everyone's constitutional right to live in peace, and that officer is now on paid. Leave and there's going to be it sounds like an independent investigation by an outside agency. The King County Sheriff's Office. which is as it should be and you know I, know that there is concern about the entire police department sometimes getting maligned by the actions of a few officers or in this case one officer you know this is this is pretty Clearly. Egregious behavior by this officer if what's captured on the video is accurate and I do I hear that concern but I think it's also fair to say, no officer should behave like that. No officer should be employing or I'm sorry no department should be employing an officer who behave like that and so if the Seattle Police Department does not want to be, you know maligned for having officers ride over someone's head on a bike. Then that's just not happen. Minor point they looked to me like the officer was walking his bike over this person's head. But as you say front and back you look skeptical. You know that's not what I maybe I have to watch the video again. I. Thought I read reports of the officer walking the bike but I thought as a former bike messenger maybe I'd misunderstood something but I thought that was a term term of art you know for biking where you kind of walk your bike by lifting one tire and then the other while you're writing it over a raised object. So that's how I took it maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong I. Get from what I thought. He was actually off to the side and he was not okay rapidly icicle. That was seen as he could have more easily avoided the person because it's not like the officer had all this momentum moving forward or something, but I mean it seems fairly clear that the officer was walking his baikonour rolled one we all over this person's head and then continued and road the second the back wheel over this person's head as well. I think that is part of the controversy. To be corrected on that I misunderstood and I guess the video wasn't clear. Well, in any case I, I went to talk a little about the mayor about this and she said, well, if that was intentional, he should be fired. I said, well, it looked to me like it was intentional but I'm not an investigator but is this going to come? Is this going to wrap around whether the officer intended it or not and will Will an investigation? Get into that and decide. If the officer says Oh, it was an accident Ben what happened so. I don't know we'll see about that. Jennifer any other any other comments about? Police cuts and response this week it was a big week for policing. SEATTLE. Yeah, it really was justice say that this is not going anywhere I think that we're GonNa continue to just hear from people and see people take to the streets. Until you know they feel like justice has been met until they feel like reform and changes that they've been speaking out for have been met in their voices have not only been heard but actional. So taken with legislation So I mean, yes, we've had several months you know of unrest in the streets if you WANNA call it that and I don't think that it's going to going to end with a change in season. Any other final thoughts on policing before we cover other topics on the week in review. Just to say that, I apologize again if I Misunderstood, what the officer was doing that video but I, do agree with what the mayor is saying police. Department shouldn't be employing someone who even walk or bike over someone said. Okay. Yes. Doing we also have in addition to all. The budget questions and? allback going on this also the question of the police contract which. is about to expire at the end of this year that the city has not begun to negotiate yet. So that will be something that will. have pretty big implications for policing in. Seattle going forward. And the budget debate continues next week with Mayor Durkin. About to propose her twenty twenty one budget, so we'll keep following it here. On the weekend review, you're listening to cure thirteen reporter Jennifer Lea cross cut reporter David Chrome Ally Sanders is here author of the Wild West Newsletter, which is going to tell us more about and and you can watch us by the way watches doing the whole thing at facebook dot com slash kyw public radio or at YouTube dot com slash user slash Koa, W nine, four nine as we're recapping the news of the week for you. We're GONNA take a quick break and be right back stay tuned. I'm bill. Radke my guests are cross cuts David Chrome Q. Thirteen's Jennifer Lea and Eli. Sanders, no longer with the Stranger Eli here we're talking about shrinking media companies could the stranger no longer afford your Pulitzer Prize winning self or why? Why else have you started your new foray into Journalism Eli? You. Know I had a real nice long run at the stranger. I was writing for the paper for more than fifteen years and I'm I'm really grateful for my time there and proud of what I've done there. But for me, it was just a time for something new and if you've read the New York Times this week, you'll see that there is a trend right now journalists hopping off of traditional media platforms an into like I tried to say earlier with the bad connection, the wild yonder of email newsletters, and this can sound a little like L. Nineteen, ninety-six stuff an email newsletter but there is this resurgence of email newsletters now that are merged with micro. Payment Platforms, and what results is for a number of journalists the ability to make a pretty decent living by just publishing through your email newsletter. Once a week or many times a week five days a week if you want and having your readers, support your work and you can do that through an email newsletter without a massively huge audience, which could be kind of a bomb. I, guess for a lot of journalists who have been shrunken out of media over the last decade or so and also a way of just improving the quality of journalism offering for local communities and for the country's a whole and tell us about the newsletter topic that you've chosen. So my newsletter is going to focus on the intersection of Technology and democracy which if you ask, me is an intersection that we should all be paying attention to right now it's obviously one that's affecting our politics. It's affecting the current. It's affecting our culture. It's affecting the way we relate to each other or you know the way I talked to you now and it's going to look at the intersection of democracy and technology through the Lens of one and maybe two very big but overlooked cases that are going on right now in Washington state the first one is Washington state versus facebook, and if you haven't heard of it, you can find out more about it on the newsletter but the. Short is that the Attorney General of Washington State Bob Ferguson has sued facebook but largest social media platform in the world worth way more than the annual budget of Washington state over facebook's refusal to follow Washington. State Law and one of FACEBOOK's claims in court is that it doesn't have to follow Washington State Law in this case, our election law requiring transparency in election had an remember facebook election ads are an issue that really affected the twenty sixteen election but. It doesn't have to follow Washington State Law in this respect because the law is unconstitutional among many other reasons and so in this newsletter I'm going to be digging into this argument it ends up being an argument over the First Amendment and from Washington State's perspective the right of a state to enforce rules for its own election and the need for an informed democracy. That's just one facet of what's really interesting case that's going to unfold over time and I think therefore lends itself to update in a weekly format in a weekly newsletter. David Cronin. You're coming from your perch across cut. What is your take on forays like this into single subject journalistic newsletters and kind of the state of local media in general. I think it's I think it's well. As far as how I feel about the state of local media in general, I would say I would say not good generally. But as far as how I feel about four as like allies or you know I think of. Erica. Has It's not a newsletter but similarly kind of created this model around. These micro donations that Eli mentioned I think I think it's a great. Alternative and one that really breaks down barriers between the journalist and the people who enjoy reading those journalists. I think. It works well for Eli era. I think it will work well for you lie and I think it works well for Erica because. They've been around for awhile names that are well known in the city. When so from that perspective and do sort of. Focused the digging journalism, and so I think I, I think a lot of market for that. At the same time I, don't think that is going to. Supplant something like the Seattle Times if they're okay now but if the Seattle Times were to continue to 'em struggle long term you know. I think there are certain points of coverage where You don't really need a journalist with a ton of branding to deliver. The news that you need, you know school board meetings or city council meetings and things like that you know I don't think Eli is going to. Grow. A huge audience by just showing up at being stenographer for city council meeting but I do think that's necessary and so while I think these sort of four as in the newsletters are great and are going to be super important for journalism going forward I also don't think it is. An. Answer or silver bullet to the broader issues happening in local media right now. Jennifer. What does it look like to you from q thirteen? Well. I I'll tell you live that he definitely has my attention. I think that's so interesting and I also really respect and admire the fact that you know he's so brave in pursuing his interest in passions are and I think that's really what's attractive to readers who will end up subscribing his newsletter. So I, think it's really exciting. I will say I think every company. Is In this covert academy that is very challenging when it comes to looking at a budget sheet. and you know I've heard from across the country you know newsrooms who are losing good journalists and it does make me sad because it's you know to no-one's all really by this current state of affairs with the coronavirus and the impact that it's had I think journalism will always be valuable. and I just think that it depends on who you are. Are you someone who likes to just get your information quick look on your phone or turn on the TV while you're cooking dinner But I think for people who truly wants you you know? Get their facts place. Let's say personality I'm kind of like David and Goliath were speaking of I think there is a good journalism. Basically for everyone's talent and I hope that continues to be the case. Is. You know my concern, his Ally and Folks like you light you've got their chops and their reputation via. Basically traditional news outlets. If you want to call the stranger traditional news outlet, which I think is but how do you? We all know that the state of all weeklies right now is not good. So of all weekly disappear, where where does the next Eli come from I don't know and that's kind of what I'm concerned about is that you we are. We are seeing the end that we are seeing the result of pipeline leading into something that I think is good positive and productive but what happens on that pipeline goes away? I I really share David's concern and I. I don't think that newsletters should or will replace traditional newsrooms I. Hope that that doesn't happen I want the Seattle Times to stay strong and I would like to stay stranger to stay strong but I I do just want to throw something out there that I think is very exciting about newsletter. So take take this person David's referring to who is maybe earlier in their career than me but has you know enough journalism experience to cover a city council meeting our cover the city. They tend throw their hat in the ring of description newsletters and try to grow a newsletter through their coverage and to get to a number of scar of subscribers that would make it worth their while. Not a just an impossible goal, the average payment right now I think that sort of going rate for email newsletters, five dollars a month for the subscription. So, as a journalist, you only need one thousand people and there probably one thousand people in the city of Seattle who are interested in city, Council meetings for example, you only need one thousand people subscribing to your newsletter at five dollars a month to earn more than a lot of journalists are making in Seattle now I don't want to encourage everyone to rush. Out and start a newsletter because it is not easy actually to get to thousand or even two thousand. But those are the numbers were talking about. You don't need you know a hundred thousand subscribers and if you had one hundred thousand subscribers at five dollars a month you could then go out and start your own media organization because you'd have a lot of money. If you left your company to publish a newsletter Jennifer. Have you ever thought about what would it be about? What's the? What's the? What's Jennifer's one topic that you're going to bring us? So don't laugh but I'm kind of obsessed with grocery stores. So only goal I'm listening. So I think it started in one of my previous news markets, Rochester New, York. I'm a huge huge fan of Wegman's. And Just was never the same again after having all these like mids around. So basically there family. Family owned and operated a grocery chain of you guys may have heard of them They're mostly based out of the northeast Nick Honda, go down a little south of the Mason Dixon But yeah, they they do a great job of customer service and branding. So when I walk into a grocery store the way that I. View the store layout and everything is very different. So I mean in my wildest dreams as someone who loves interpreting and gathering information sharing that that would be you would blog about grocery store layouts. Layouts Trophies, customer service you name it top tomato. David What about you? I don't I don't think I'm going to start a newsletter I. Will never say never, but I'm actually curious to hear from you Eli because I feel like. I feel like a few years ago. We saw this huge influx of newsletters that became this like everyone was obsessed with newsletters and it was not so much the independent. Individuals as it is now maybe but you know every news outlet. was just like that was the way they were going to go their audience with CBS newsletters it seemed to sort of hit a saturation point to a certain extent at least I thought maybe maybe I'm wrong but I'm curious like. If you think this is a if this shift is different from that other sort of obsession with newsletters and why you think this will succeed. Where in a market where it seems like we already have a lot of newsletters. I do think this is different. Those newsletters that were put out by media companies were essentially attempts to grow the media companies audience and often sell ads against the newsletters. So you get the newsletter, but it would have ads in it and I I know what you mean about subscribing to a Lotta newsletters but I think it's mostly journalists who subscribed to every outlets newsletter. I don't think the average person did and for the average person for the consumer hear, the newsletter is an opportunity to say, hey, in this kind of health scape of decreasing journals. And then a lot of badge journalism here's an opportunity to financially support the kind of journalism that I want and I don't have to go sort through my facebook feed or twitter or whatever to dig it out of the waterfall of cascading nonsense I just get it showing up in my inbox at irregularly expected time, and I opened it up and I know I'm going to get something quality and I'm paying for it. So I know I'm contributing to that quality and the minute I, don't like it. I stopped paying for it and I go support something else. All, right. Well, we're going to pause there continued to cover the news at the journalists cover We again the that's the wild west newsletter which you can sign up for it wild west dot. SUB STACK DOT com. So back to the news of the week. I WANNA find out Jennifer about this news from Tacoma. We don't have a corona virus vaccine. We don't have heard immunity wire some tacoma students going back into public school buildings on Monday. Yeah this is a model that a lot of districts. Will be following Should they decide to have this phased in reopening? Of course, they all have different timelines but just based on studies and research there. Are some people who really or groups of children who really will not get the full extent of the you know? Learning social. Emotional development. That they need, and this includes age groups of pre K. kindergarten as well as I'm special education So you know educators do you want to try and get them into your classroom typesetting sooner than let's say older learners in high school but just recently am Tacoma public schools, which is the third largest district in our state. had original plans of reopening for that group of children starting on Monday but just yesterday they said because of new guidance that came down from the State Department of Labor Industries regarding ninety five masts. that. They were not ready they weren't. Ready to put their staff out there with new training as well as ninety five fitting guidelines on that they just learned of I hadn't heard this. So you're saying kindergarten and special ED. Students are not going back to school on Monday in Tacoma Komo coming now. Okay. What is it about the in ninety five training? What's the problem? So based on the conversations that I've had with the president of the education. Tacoma. As well as I'm information that the Tacoma School district released on, they basically said that they found that based on research even the and ninety five masks they do have. Were proven to be ineffective You know there is something that they're working on already have a vendor. That they're working on to jet fares staff trained up. on and ninety, five safety and you know this is something that we've continued to hear since the code outbreak about how if you're not wearing ninety five mask properly and it's not properly fitted your face, it really doesn't do what it's supposed to do. and so this this group of employees within the district include counselors who wouldn't have that large classroom space via smaller office. Staff who work with children in special education who aren't able to put on a mask nurses who would be dealing with no children who could have symptoms So I think there are still a lot of details to learn of the districts that they could be getting even more new information again, next week and also going back to union. Rules. The Teacher's Union is guaranteed five days notice before the next day that they'd have to have children back plaster. So definitely going to be another week at the very least. Okay meanwhile, the zoom learning online learning continues into coma and at other places, I've heard rumblings of different school districts talking about going to a hybrid model bringing some kids back. You can see why some special ed kids who have. Personalized learning plans, it just screen learning. It doesn't work five year olds. It's hard to get a kindergartener to. To learn much on a screen, keep their attention they need to get their wiggles out and by the way. I think people my kids are older than this. If I had to go into work, I could leave my kids alone learning remotely at home but. You know especially, for the younger kids, school is also daycare and a lot of. That becomes an issue as well. Any other David or Eli any other thoughts on on back to school or not back to school. Yeah I mean I think I've said this before, but it feels like the summer was we had a lot of talk about how do we open up restaurants again how do we open up bars again and Maybe some of that will as this expectation that the virus would be more under control right now than the data's but. It. Seems like that the conversations around restaurants and bars and venues slowed a little bit I think that's partially because. It's a realization that. If you really want the economy to actually function properly again, need to have schools working and so therefore. It's worse. Pudding sort of effort into bringing down the case numbers on behalf of schools. Perhaps it's is, is more worthwhile than bringing down the numbers on behalf of bars and restaurants. Did you hear about a bunch of a restaurant and bar owners including? Ethan stole and Tom Douglas signing a petition trying to get the governor to allow. Alcohol sales some say up to two. Am some say midnight because currently it's ten o'clock and some of these bar and restaurant owners are saying. You gotta you gotTa Trust us to some some restaurant owners aren't even following the protocols but we are and we should be able to we can handle this. We should be able to sell alcohol and make some money and survive. So it's you know schools. Restaurants Husky football is about to start up. They got the okay. You can. You can see different sectors of our economy and our pop culture life. Try to Lurch back into back into existence. As health officials warn that we are likely to see a huge spike in cases partly because of this and partly because of the realities of fall and people spending more time indoors. So I my my major reaction to all of this is just you know sympathy for everyone who is trying to navigate this just take the parents of kindergartners and the teachers and the. Unions for the teachers and the administrators this is not easy stuff and So this may sound like worthless self-help speak but you know it's okay to give yourself a break feel like this is hard or not be performing your best because we are all dealing with something that none of us were thinking about for the most part a year ago and it's super challenging. Again, that that news in case you hadn't heard that the PAC twelve, the Pacific twelve sports conference yesterday the Huskies, cougars, ducks trojans. The Western schools announced that like the rest of the country football is going to happen after all in the West is going to be seven PAC twelve games starting on November sixth ending the week before Christmas Husky players are back on campus. They got back last week there quarantining now and they start practicing on Tuesday not all PAC twelve schools can practice yet the Colorado Buffalo players are on lockdown because one hundred, Colorado students and staff tested positive this week for covid nineteen. This is the week in review and we'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK Aw. Aw. Bill Radke were breaking down the news of the week with you and me lies Sanders author of the Wild West Newsletter Cross cut reporter David Cronan and q thirteen reporter Jennifer. Lea. The November election that's what Americans get to have their say. But we'll that message be clear and will the President Listen To making sure that there is a peaceful transfer. Of Power after the election. Have to see what happens you know that I've been complaining very strongly about the ballots and the balance are disaster and People riding, do you connect to making sure that he's little more? Get rid of the ballots and you'll have a very transplant. Have a very peaceful. There won't be a transfer frankly, it'll be a continuation. The ballots are out of control you know it and knows it better than anybody else Democrats know better than anybody else go ahead. Get rid of the ballots think he's talking there about mail in ballots, kind of something which by the way we are quite used to in Washington state it's just it's just called ballots. Eli Several Republican Congress, members reacted to the president's statements. By saying reassuring us there will be a peaceful transfer of American power as there has been since seventeen, ninety two. So who's right? Well I. Hope they're right if if we don't have a peaceful transfer of power. Something very dramatic and I think awful has happened and you know it's nice to see Republicans senators finally drawing the Line I. Guess the line that they're gonNA draw fourthly is we can't actually completely throw our democracy in the trash we do have to have a peaceful transfer of power. So they're gonNA get up and say that even as president trump is twice this week suggesting that he doesn't feel. Like the peaceful transfer of power, which is the bedrock that our democracies built on is all that necessary? It's very concerning stuff. There's an article in the Atlantic right now that I think everyone should pay attention to it asks the question of whether this election is the one that is going to break our democracy and it looks at what trump is saying, but it also looks at what his campaign has been. Doing to undermine the vote and to sort of prepare itself to call into question the legitimacy of the election in what the author calls the Interregnum, the inbetween period between the election and inauguration day, which I think is something like seven days. It's it's a long period to go with the president potentially saying well, I don't believe that it was all rigged and Joe Biden potentially saying I'm the legitimate president. And the rest of US doing what and I I think that is a question that what what am I doing? What am I going to that everyone does to be asking themselves this article is not alarmist. I think it's very clear on it encourages people ultimately to ask themselves that question and it suggests some answers for the average citizen and people who are in positions of power for the average citizen. Says you know particularly, I think for people in Washington State, we have a pretty well functioning male and system if you are on social media or connected to people who are persuadable right or who are open minded talk to them about the baselessness of the attacks on mail in voting, try to counter program this false narrative that mail in voting can't be trusted and that our elections are untrustworthy and rig they're they're really not and then there's a whole list of advice for people in all kinds of different positions of power journalists have to do their role to. Defend Democracy police officers and police chiefs have to do their role to defend the right of people to go to polling stations in states where there are still polling stations without interference judges probably familiarize themselves with election law and on and on and and what the author concludes is that you know if trump's aim is really to trample American democracy in order to stay in power, which have you taken that his word that does sound like Zane. Then the only way he can do that is the author writes is if in some measure, the American people acquiesce to it. And so the encouragement from this article and I it is pretty dire but I think we are in a dire moment the encouragement is do not acquiesce. Jennifer, are is Washington state a a model of. mail-in ballot, legitimacy. One hundred percent I. Mean I think Washington has shown it just based on evidence over the years that it can be done and I, think everything points to the fact that voter turnout is higher in mail in ballot states if you just look at the information So this is something that I recently had a conversation with someone who has a background in history. So as politics and I found very interesting a lot of. A lot of political analysts are expecting this election to be very close. which could be motivating certain actions behind the people who are in power but you know that's not to say. President trump. if he does end up getting that second term very have it he'll have his second term and you know based on what we've seen before presidents are usually more in Bolton to take a the kind of action. They wanted you knowing that you know they don't have another election. And then let's say Joe Biden ends up. Winning this election and you know hopefully that transfer of power is a smooth process. That doesn't mean that Donald Trump is going to just proof go away I mean he has a right to run again let's say In this scenario that if Joe Biden were to win for another second term but I, think there's a lot of conversation analysis and I hope that people. Will will take pride in just knowing they're facts as well as also you know. It's stressful leading up to the elections especially with everything that's going on but also be able to take enjoyment out of American democracy and you know what it has shown itself. As something that we practice as American citizens, we're about to see how enjoyable it is David. We're not a swing state. So does that mean? We shouldn't expect. Chaos here. I mean I I think Washington's I think Washington system functions exactly how it's supposed to do. But the the problem is for the rest of the country that are that's not used to that. So they look at the fact you know I I've been thinking about councilmember some assign lot in her last election on election night she was down by about nine points and then over the course of the next week as late ballots were counted, there's historically. A. AH bias, not not to use that term negatively but a bias towards sort of more liberal progressive candidates in local races. So as those ballots coming in that the vote tallies swung pretty dramatically for her, and then of course, she ended up winning by three points. That's how the system is supposed to work. Nothing broke their that was a perfectly legitimate election and yet we saw national media outlets cover that election as she had lost. Before she had. I mean when she actually went on to win and so. I agree with Jennifer that Washington system is. A model it is. Pretty rock-solid at least as far as you can get. But I don't think that means it will be without its problems in part because of a lot of misinformation you know trump after the Florida election. tweeted that they should stop counting late-arriving ballots. You know there's nothing illegal about those. But he was concerned that Rick Scott was starting to fall behind in late arriving ballads. There was no fraud. It was all perfectly legal legitimate, but he was still putting out this information that somehow these later riding ballots were less legitimate when they were. So that's the real concern. Ally and what David's talking about here's something national strategies to take into calling the blue shift. We are way ahead of the curve in Washington state in getting used to this and getting used to the idea that the election doesn't end on election night. There are still going to be ballots to be counted and it can really change the results but think back to when this first started here in. Washington that's where most of the rest of the country is they're not used to thinking in that way and what the Atlantic article points out is that Republicans are very openly they're not hiding this. Going to take advantage of that unfamiliarity with the blue shift and they. People who are concerned about this talk about another way they talk about the Red Mirage. That on election night, it could look like trump is winning a number of states that he ultimately won't because of the blue shift that will occur as more ballots are counted. But Wow, those ballots are being counted. Expect Republicans to say these ballots are fraudulent. Stop counting what are you doing? The result is the result on election night, and from that, we could potentially get a lot of unfortunate chaos and misinformation. And we have just enough time to find a ray of hope. Piercing the gloom. Maybe. It say, maybe it's baby orcas. Any anything making you still able to smile today. The Baby Orca that's good news. It's to baby orcas in in a month. That's fellow reporters. Reaction was Oh it's a boy instead of a girl it's bad for reproduction. OBJEC-, yeah, that space object that's coming into view, and they're not quite sure what it is and might come into near Earth orbit. I think I read in the Seattle Times my thought was good. They're coming to rescue us. Is. They don't know if it's space junk or if it's a an asteroid or what but but maybe a mini moon getting pulled gravity. I hope it's a mini moon. We'll take it. It's supposed to be it's supposed to be sunny actually. Take it each day at a time. The Sun and the moon they're still doing their thing hard to believe. Man Look at it rain outside and The sky kind of looks like it's not smoke folks. That's just that's just cloud cover it remember that it's autumn. Thank you so much for being with me on the week in review David Chrome from cross cut Jennifer Lea from q thirteen ally Sanders is author of the Wild West Newsletter. 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