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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

Daily Grace

08:23 min | 2 months ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

"Here on Earth, even though our earthly bodies are wasting away, I love what Paul says and Second Corinthians, four sixteen that we do not lose heart, though our outer self is wasting away. Our inner self is being renewed day by day, and so there's the key right to overcoming our body image issues. It's it's not looking to ourselves to fix the problem, but looking to someone looking to Christ. Our hearts and transform our minds, and in turn inform our feelings Yeah, and if you guys have been listening to the podcast for awhile, you know that that's one of my favorite verses in the Bible, it's. It's just so good. We talked about it all the time. And that's because it really does give us true and lasting hope, and you know I, think it's important for us to realize that this verse points out that there actually is something wrong with our physical bodies are wasting away right, and that's because of sin and what I mean by. By. That is when Adam and Eve sinned. The curse of sin brought death, and the aging process is evidence that we are all dying. Yep, it's evidence of the fall, and so there is a sense that we can have a healthy lament over the fact that our bodies are in fact breaking down. Yeah, you know we can grieve the effects of sin, but we don't have to despair, and the reason for that is because our hope is not in this body Our hope is not in this life. It's actually in the new one that is to calm. And not only that, but this verse tells us that all of the pain and suffering we experience including those that we experienced because of aging right that these are all doing something in us. They are producing something glorious Ns that we will experience when Christ returns. Yeah, and so we see in this first. That God uses those things to renew US inwardly. That's our sanctification this process of becoming more. More and more like Jesus and that's going to result in a glory that we will experience that far outweighs all of the pain that we've gone through, and so when we're glorified will be completely read of our sin, and completely holy, and here's the awesome thing when it comes to our physical bodies, our physical bodies are going to be resurrected and are going to be renewed and finally at last. Last our physical bodies are going to match our spiritual state, which is perfect and blameless and holy and glorious, and so you know when we obsess over our physical appearance now when we don't just lament, but we go further into despair. What we are saying when we do that is that our hope is rooted in this life. Only yeah, our hope is rooted in this body in this time, but. But the truth is we have a hope that is not rooted in this life, but is rooted in eternity in a life where we will be perfect and blameless and holy, and without blemish without spot, and without any marks or signs of aging, because we will have eternal glorified bodies. Yeah, man, that's a good word, and I really love that that we can lament over the broken -ness of. Due to the effects of sin, but we don't have to despair you know if our hope is in Christ, and like you said we have so much to look forward to right our future glorification, and that includes resurrected perfected bodies, and you know I think that's a particularly powerful encouragement to those who are living with things like chronic pain, right? The Lord offers sustaining grace to endure and not despair. But for all of us I think we can benefit from seeing the connection between our sanctification and kind of how we view ourselves right. and this is a mean that there's just this fixed point in the sanctified journey where you know. If you surpass that point, you'll never struggle with body image issues again, but it does mean that as you grow in Christ likeness. That means you're being transformed. You're fighting. Send you're studying the Bible and growing in your knowledge of who God is, and who you are in light of him. What's happening is that his desires become your desires, and that influences the things that you're preoccupied with, and that is what guides you to put value on different things, and so you know, some of us may be wondering if there is a point in our lives were body image will never be an issue for us on the side of eternity and I think the answer is maybe but maybe not but either way whichever way it falls, we persevere with. With hope because we know our future glorification is secured, and this glorification like you said Joanna includes a new resurrected body in the presence of God and again he offers sustaining grace to help us persevere until that day. Yeah, and I think you're right. We will probably all struggle with body image to some degree for the rest of our lives on this side of eternity, but by God's grace we can continue to grow in this area more and more over the course of our lives. Yeah and I. Love what you said about the things that we are preoccupied with changing because I don't think that the. The answer is to get to a place where we are perfectly happy with how our bodies are, and then we won't deal with body image issues anymore. Yeah I think that we really have to realize that that's not where our hope is. That's not where preoccupation should be, and when we are focused on the things, and when we are longing for the things and placing our affections on the things that God calls lovely and good, then those body image issues are going to fall to the wayside. Yeah, and you know we really do usually try to fix our body image issues I'd say one of two ways for. For the most part one is by fixing our bodies. No right diet exercise whatever you have to do, makeup hair the right close to get the image that you want and feel comfortable with yourself to on the other side. We try to just tell ourselves we're perfect. Just the way we are to convince ourselves. You are beautiful, your amazing, you know all these things kind of self affirmation kind of thing. Yeah, and I think that both of those approaches have the same problem, even though they seem opposite. Yeah, and the problem. Is that either way? We are basing our value on our physical appearance or physical ability. Right and our value as humans is not in our appearance, it's not in what we can do, but in fact, our value as human beings is that we are made by God in his image, Jen Wilkin gives us example in her book, none like him where she talks about in artist that when you look at a painting, and you see a name in the bottom right hand corner signature, and it is the signature of somebody incredibly well known or famous somebody like Leonardo Davinci or something right? That is the fact that it was painted by an artist that gives the picture value right, and that is what is true us, we as humans have value innately because we are created by. By, God the most amazing artists that there has ever been even more so as believers we are united to Christ, and that means what is true of Christ is true of us. Romans three twenty two says the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe we have the righteousness of God..

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey

The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey

08:57 min | 4 months ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey

"About avoidance is not purity. I thought how many times I just say like. Oh I'll just stay clear so then there's no opportunity instead of what about self control? What about you know? Goodness what about purity like why not give ourselves an opportunity to use those gifts? That God's given us instead of just avoidance and that was it was really really mind opening when I read when I read you talk about that and I've and I've I've thought about that a lot over the past couple of years. Jen Wilkin has has had a lot of conversations about this. That have really helped me grow in this area so I agree. This is not in your book is not here are the five ways to do ministry with the opposite sex. Because you're not going to say that I'm not gonNA say that. No one's going to say that but it is such a good starting point just to think about where are what are we bringing to the table? And where our hearts in this like? What's our motive? What's our where's our. Where's our where's our opportunity to let God use the gifts this special gifts. He's given us so. And what are our expectations too? I think that's a really big one. A big part of it to you. I think we sometimes expect the worst or we cannot think about anything other than like the possibility that something might go wrong and I want to argue that like Jesus is all about coming and saying what about the possibility that something might go right like beautifully right when you just said that Aaron. We're talking about your book and like years ago. We need the sky who would avoid. He was in ministry would avoid women as if they had like a disease. That was contagious. If even looked at them and we was talking about it because I was talking about the book and we looked back on. That were like man. It was so awkward. It was so uncomfortable. It was so weird to be around him and we were newly married and so it was like just kind of figuring out but it was. It just didn't feel right and that's what I think that you're talking about is expecting the worst. Everything like every woman must be wanting to get in his pants if they come close to him and I'm just like I don't think that was true. Actually now I think my husband does not mind if I share this. But when he so he walked through a divorce A PRETTY PAINFUL DIVORCE. That he wasn't he he didn't want didn't want the situation to happen and And then after the divorce was finalized. The elders at our church to just sort of set aside a year where he would just fast pray and seek the Lord and maybe she would come back. I was kind of the hope and and she didn't. Obviously we married now but during that period of time he he decided the way to get through. That time was totally white. Knuckle it and totally ignore women so not talk to them. Speak to them look at them and so my first like four interactions with him. I thought been this hates me and I look. I'm not looking at him as a potential husband. At all my mind's not there at all and but yeah just would not look at look in the eye and then something shifted when of Billy to two or three of my friends began to sort of merge with his friend group and he began to say and he would say this A. You guys taught me how to be a brother to my sister's in a way that had never seen before and and that was I think the first thing that ended him ended with him through being drawn to me was the way that I was able to be assisted to my brothers. So I think for the man who's doing that? There's hope healing I think a lot of times. It really is just that you know if you tell someone you're bad you're bad you're bad long enough. They start to believe it and they start to act like it am that can just be a really crushing Way To live in. Or if you look at women nearly as you're an object you're an object you're an object that's also an equally crushing to live and so I think saying your image bearer of a complex guide is a much more beautiful and compelling way to speak about men and women and really I mean the truth of it is. I've heard Jen's say this before I mean the truth of it is like one hundred times as well as like at the end of the day. All of us. We're brothers and sisters in Christ that we're going to spend eternity together in that relationship and so we get the unique one time opportunity to to love them well as brothers in Christ here on earth and so kind of changing that that mindset and that way that we look at people encouraging and so I'm I'm thankful for you and your ministry single for this book. I'm thankful for the way that you're bringing conversations to the table. That are scary and that we might just want to avoid because it's too hard to think about. It's too hard to deal with. It's too hard to think through. And you know we've been taught we're in quarantine right now a mellow. We're we're Hav and one of the things that my husband mentioned the other day is he. He leads our creative and worship team and he's and they're still coming out here less than ten people all the things less than ten people. Not Touching six feet apart to film worship and preaching. He said one of the things that he's missed. The most is just hugging and he said that they he can see how much their team has developed this culture of hugging and not necessarily like side hug but like a a hug an embrace and he was saying how much he misses that when he sees people on his team. Men and women like no like. Oh just my brother's like he just misses that hug and that touch and I think right. Now we're in this unique situation where man I think about my single friends who might live alone and this going on like thirty days of not being touched. I could honestly just cry because I cannot imagine it and it has opened my eyes. I see how much as human beings I mean. We know this from babies like we know that they need to be touched when they're babies and I don't think that changes I read an article this morning By his name the guy that's always talking on TV the about the medical doctor about everything we should be doing starts the NEF off. I just shared something from him. This morning of food FAUCI foot yacht something Yup to article said and he said I wish I had an I read. But the gist of it was that he sees after this grown virus. Is You know Garner. There's a vaccine or whatever that might look like for our lives. He said I could see us. Never going back to shaking hands again and I thought I I saw that interesting chatting with you today about touch and I thought wow that feels so extreme and I don't know if that could actually be possible. I think one thing I'm always reminded of is that God not. He wasn't just the first one to say to to to touch humans he was also the first one to say it is not good remained to be alone. God's whole purposes to unite people his love and banner and to bring us together to worship him for eternity. And so I think these social distancing things like that that's not God's best it's not God's design and we live in a broken fallen world and so we have to sometimes admit to the broken ness and the fallen ness of this world demand my prayer through all of this. I mean I've had so many people say what a rotten time to release this book for. You and my prayer has been that just as I talk about. Fasting from intimacy in the book in regard to singleness dating my prayers been as we are fasting from touch in the season that the hunger for good health touch would grow stronger than our stomachs would be growling. For good healthy whole touch. At the end of this in a way that is I think less sort of cavalier and but as more intentional purposeful than it's ever been before I love hearing you say. I could cry thinking about my single sisters. Because here's the reality most of us who didn't spend significant seasons of life single or who aren't single. We're not thinking about our single brothers and sisters in a way very much. So here's an opportunity for us to sort of more with those who mourn and to feel that they're feeling in a way that they heightened for them as it is it is for us right now but it's more gnawing for them like their stomachs are growing a lot harder than your stomach's growling for good taste. And I think this is God's way of saying in so many ways I mean not just around touch but God is using this opportunity as we're sort of sheltering in place in under lockdown to help us face the ways that we have neglected to care for our own bodies and neglected to care for the bodies of others were facing our selfishness in a Lotta ways. It's really difficult really challenging. I don't know about you but like I look in the mirror and I'm like oh. Golly like this is just revealing some hard things in that. Yeah but I think it's also really good and my prayer is that it will continue that it's you know that you will remember that for the rest of your life..

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Knowing Faith

Knowing Faith

11:45 min | 6 months ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Knowing Faith

"This is world. I'm driving my co host gene Wilkin and JT English. Hey we're drinking out of JT. Coffee Coffee Cups. Let's get to jump on instagram or twitter and find a picture. I'm sure of our great coffee sleeves that we have here episode you've ever had. There's no doubt about that. And you're handsome guy on today's episode. We'RE GOING TO EXPLORE ACTS. Twenty and twenty one of the discussion. So here we are and Jinnai are are actually. Jt drinking coffee as well. But it's not special coffees. It's not I wonder I I don't know I don't know if I mean obviously the audience can't see but Jinnai have modified our coffee cups with what are I can only imagine our. Jt T. Commissioned custom pessimistic coffee sleeves that have jt on there We've got to the point that quote that says the local churches starving for theologically grounded leaders southern is the premier place. The train them are you. Are you mocking the mission of God? Oh My Gosh. Jr. I'm like he cuts a striking or is it a no. I think it's a respectful that was after I fired. You know this is a big smile of a Man. Who just commissioned coffee sleeves with us on this is yes. I am going to be drug on a warm. We have coffee sleeves at southern made that Jen and I saw on twitter and immediately called. Are we called in our the the scope of our network and said we're going to need those whatever it takes whatever it takes? We want the coffee sleeve in fairness. I had no idea they were GONNA do. I'M GONNA a laminate mine you down on my my My Gen inception selfish. He said he said I'm going to get even with you. And I was like not. This is the payback for doing the math raw shrimp. The audience doesn't know one of my favorite things to do is in a crowd if Jin gets asked for a Selfie to take a Selfie of getting a inception my other favorite thing to do is whenever she chews on a plane. She is like elite platinum and publishes on before we are and I walked by. If I don't know her I know who she is. GonNa work with her and I go are you. Jen Wilkin my wife. Loves your books and I take a fee and then often. What happens to the person sitting next to you? Well either. They Act Super Awkward for the rest of the flight. Or they want to talk about my book. Really I thought you were general component. Wasn't going to say but we were on a flight recently where He we were coming back from this. We ended up. We were speaking at different engagements in the same city ended up on the same flight bag. And so there's just randomly and so we're checking in and And and and JT's like. Oh I'm GonNa make funny on the airplane and I go. What Cedar Are you in? He tells me what CD's in and so. I got selected the seat right next to it I was like I'm going to get on the plane before you because I've status when you tried to get into your seat. I'm going to say no when you need to use the bathroom halfway through the flight. I'm going to say no of these tests had escalate though you do and I had to sit like twenty rows back from where I normally just ask them and the one closest to the bathroom as well for you. This is the best tasting cup of coffee. I've had an on site just fall. Find One of us on twitter instagram. And you can find this picture and you will also rejoice in this incredible coffee sleeve that we have here. Hey I was thinking whenever. It was prepping for this week of boring sermons because the title of this week. I'm very proud of As you know is when the sermon kills one I mean. Do you mean sleigh. Yes he's so proud of it exactly and If you just want to say if you have not pulled your car over there laughing or clapping at that title then this show is probably not for you Because that sermon. This title is Mrs Eight. This is your thank you. I really appreciate that. Well what I was thinking about it. I kept reminding myself I was trying to think of like. What's the most boring sermon I've ever heard and I can think of one story that I've never told you both if you say it's mine we're going to have a whole nother conversation? Yeah a couple years ago he was preaching okay so my brother and I went to London for his senior trip and he did not care a thing at all about going to see Charles. Persians church the church where he had preached at. But I of course of course we have to go so we cross London. I mean obviously we got fifteen times this before smartphones will certainly before we had smartphones and We did not know we were going. So we'd like mapquest directions. We get there we get to this guy's church and of course you know I. It's not preaching that right now that we have long since gone and the guy gets up and he begins to preach he preaches for over ninety minutes. Oh my over ninety minutes. My brother is staring daggers. Because he is like I. This is my senior trip. I cannot believe I'm here and it was listened that he might be a lights out. Preacher but that day who it was I just sat there and I kept. My brother kept going. When can we leave? When can we leave? We cannot leave in the middle of this guy sermon. We just can't do it. I can't allow it to happen. You could've should've yeah. We should have. It was painful. It was painful. I thought his sermon didn't kill me. But my thought my brother might. It might not have thought of that. Most boring sermon of heard. Yeah forget the ones. I've heard some zingers so I think We don't have a lot of boring preaching right here spoiled. Yeah smoker preachers. Well and this sermon. We don't know that it was boring but we certainly know that killed some money and we're going to look at it to the AX. Twenty opens up with what is essentially a map like you. Just you roll an ax. Twenty and it says. Hey after the uproar sees which is the rided emphasis which we talked about last time. We're acts it's this. Polston for the disciples and after encouraging them he said farewell. He departed from Macedonia. We had gone through those regions had given them much incursion came to Greece. He spent three months. They are plot was made against him by the Jews. As he was about to sell for Syria he decided to return to Macedonia superior. The berea son of Paris accompanying him and of the Thesselonians are stark. And Kim. This guy's of Derby and Timothy and the Asians tickets and TRAUMAS. They went on ahead. And we're waiting for us at Troas but we sailed away from Phillipine after the days of unleavened bread and in five days we came to the Metro as where we stay for seven days. So here we are guys one of the most riveting passages in scripture right. You don't mean that will. Sometimes you kind of Duke is like that though. Yeah you're like. Oh Yeah. The genealogy is so exciting. This isn't it. This is a great example of one of those. It's it's not a genealogy but man does it read like one of your life. Why do I care about any of those names that you're just throwing darts and it's so good? What's good about this well so remember where we are right like? We're in Paul's Third Missionary Journey and we're seeing that now. Something new is happening. Or maybe more appropriately. Something old is happening whereas we've seen his influence expanding up to this point now. We're going to see him reinforcing it. So he's going back to places that he's gone before and we know that during this time period this described in this paragraph if you compare it to his epistles that First Corinthians Second Corinthians and Romans or written during this time and they actually give a little bit of insight into why he's making this trip He's making this trip because he's gathering an offering from all of these churches that he intends to take to the church in Jerusalem so in these seven verses what seems like just a bunch of names and places. Yeah behind the scenes. This is the temple of his journey of collection. Right so we get the we get kind of where he goes and then we get this list of these names of guys and each of those people represents one of churches where he has taken a significantly sized church where he's taken up the offering You start to go. Oh I remember these names from other parts of the book of acts and and you might notice that. You don't see a representative from the Church of Philip Pie named in the list. But that's because most scholars would say because Luke who's writing the account would have actually been the travel companion who was representing church. So basically this is like an an entre. It's a it's a A delegation from these other churches who have not taking up an offering they have representatives from each of the churches that are now going to process to Jerusalem and remind remind the audience. If they can't remember why the offerings being collected for Jerusalem just talk and make a good impression when he gets to Jerusalem. Okay no not really. I mean won't hurt right right but no it's it's a display of unity. I mean if you think about it and and also I think Paul is painting that he might. He's run into difficulty just about everywhere that he's gone and so it does help that he will show up saying hey this is this is an offering from churches that are largely gentile church. That is largely Jewish in nature. And we've seen this a little before we saw the church at Antioch do something like this When there was a when there was a famine in the area. They organized a gift. Like this So and then another really cool thing about it is when you start paying attention to the names that are there you find out that you have one of the nicer pairings in here. That's Kinda draws attention. Era Kundus Because Aristarkhov his name sounds a lot like an English word. Sounds like Aristocrat? He's probably someone who's high in society and secaucus means number two so this is probably the second servant in a household so you would have promised the highest slave and then you would have the second slave and yet these two guys are now travel companions because the the you know the the social designator have been removed in terms of their status in the church. I did not know it's really cool. Isn't it it is the end of Romans. We talked about that. I think here before something similar where you have a governor of the city and you have than numbers used as people's names showing. They're actually writing this letter together. They're in community. These things that would have distinguished people before they're Banou Birth in Christ is no longer distinguishing feature. That's really cool. See I like I was prepared to skip right over these versus well tile. Both people are well and we didn't because that's really interesting. I had not spent any time thinking about what was going on behind the scenes or what is going on above all of this journey here but he gets to troas. Yeah and he's teaching and the story. I love this story. This is such a good story. It really is right. Dead guys break. The story tells the story here. Okay so you have Paul Preaching and you have Versus versus this is action or twenty a read seven through nine on the first day of the week when we were gathered together to break bread. Paul talked with them intending to depart on the next day and he prolonged his speech until midnight. There are many lamps in the upper room where they were gathered in a young man. Utica sitting at the window sank into a deep sleep as Paul talked still longer. This feels like a troll talking still being overcome by sleep. He fell down from the third story and was taken.

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Truth In Boots

Truth In Boots

14:14 min | 9 months ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Truth In Boots

"In the month of January every every day you could read one chapter someone. Nineteen is an excellent song. spoken up in Chunks of eight verses. This and it's all focused on God's word and the law So maybe you could just take a section of eight verses everyday every day and meditate on that journey is something that I know we both have done and That can be really helpful practice. Listen if you take you know. Thirty one days of proverbs or those eight verses from Psalm One nineteen just go through there and right out one thing adding that God one verse God uses in your heart and how that applies to your life. Yes and I know when I write down my thoughts as I'm studying kind of like I'm rambling on the page. So it helps me. It helps me. Meditated helps me Tho- hone in my thoughts of okay riders saying this and then he goes to this and so this is the conclusion that's how he gets there it didn't it helps me solidify and understand what's going on in the passage much better. Yes for sure Several months ago. Oh I got just a cheap paperback Bible. I actually found it from a used bookstore I have loved using that Bible up just to make notes in because it was so inexpensive. I don't feel like I have to You know treat it with so much much care like I do my Esp Study Bible. That's that was a bit more money and a gift from my husband's But this paperback by will I can't just I throw in my bag and I've taken it to the playground with my kids. I'll let my kids use it and read out of it. I'm reading through the Bible this year. So I've actually been and checking off chapters as I read it and it's really helpful to kind of Digest the word in that way because it's more a part of my daily life instead of just okay. I read from this Bible and I put it on my nightstand. Stays the rest of the day. This this little piggybacked Bible has been a nice thing to more make part of my day sometimes even leave it on the kitchen counter open to the passengers readings that if I have you know a few minutes while I'm waiting for something to heat up in the microwave. I can just read a few verses from the average the jobless studying So that's that's even another thing I've done to try to be creative in how I get God's word in my mind and heart yes right now in my own. Study doing the book of Fijian's and the Apostle Paul wrote the book of Fijian's as a a letter to the Church of ethicists so years ago I kind of stumbled upon this method study by accident. But I'm reading the entire book in one setting and takes about fifteen minutes to re all but each day reading the entire book and it would. I'm reading it. How Pala ridgely minute to be read? But because I'm having such a a a big picture of it I see how stuff in chapter after one relates to stuff in chapter three and I can identify You know how he moves from thought to thought so much better since. I'm reading all at once but it's not too repetitive. From me because I mix things up like you said I may be listened to the the passage one day instead of reading it because it uses a different part of my brain listening than reading so I pick up different things or maybe maybe another day. I read it from a different translations. So I see how the translators are using different words to convey the idea so it has made the book of Fijian's hands come alive to me a lot more so this this method it helps me understand that book a whole lot better but obviously you don't want to do that with the book of Isaiah because you'd spend half your reading So it it is useful that method of reading the same thing every day. I'm doing it for the month. The month of December But that is one idea to for a more in depth that you can just do some repetitive stuff. And it's also getting the scriptures into my mind more so it's almost it's almost memorization. Yeah that's that is great and looking for themes to another if you do. Maybe a abroad study of reading through the Bible in a year looking king four themes throughout the scripture can really help you tie in the overarching story of scripture Looking for maybe the theme name of blood How in in the Old Testament No? It's it's the sin is removed with the sacrifice of the animals in the bloodshed and then in the New Testament it all points to the need for a redeemer the need for a savior and that is Jesus. Maybe tracing the theme of the presence of God I'm chasing the theme of even I'm rebellion and obedience. Seeing being who reveals what happens to them who obeys and what happens to them so many different themes that can just keep your mind engaged at reading and I think that's that is the struggle With Bible reading as we constantly have to keep your mind engaged engaged It can be easy just to get into a habit which is a good thing we should be having. It also has side side effects of sometimes you get in the habit and then you can't board and so the the constant need to keep my mind engaged engaged in okay. What is this saying? Why does he use this word on Wednesday night at my church? We're going through the book of James and this past it's Wednesday talked through the I I in James Two says my brother show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord. Jesus Christ the Lord of Glory. Sorry one of the things that we're talking about is why does he say the Lord of Glory Right there like why. Why does he take time and to say that? He could've just said as you. Hold the faith in our Lord. Jesus Christ but he goes on to say the Lord of Glory and the next several versus talks about how. We shouldn't show partiality if we see someone who's rich and someone who's poor weather in finances ince's or social status or influence. We shouldn't treat one better than the other in Sa- going back to that phrase. He is the Lord of Glory. We talked about how if God it is glorious in our minds then it really levels out human nature And if we view guide as the most glorious person than we won't view other people in that way low them just as as God's creation and it will allow us to love them and treat them the way that God treats them and so even just that one little four word phrase the Lord of Glory. There's so much packed in there. That was such a blessing and we took time to really really mine it out yet. Keeping the minds engage is really important especially with me. I've never been able to read through the Bible in one year so I kind of get discourage since two or three year person for reading through the Bible but still good. That's so good. I think point is just to make it a daily daily apart it if it's not a year that's okay yes But one study. I've done when I read through. The Bible is God's promises and I remember it does their alike Mine's like little collections. That you can spot route the scriptures of promises they kind of come in groups for the most part but it is amazing when you hit those that the rider has spent so much time developing. Your God is in the passages before that promise that suddenly the promise comes and you realize whoa in this promise is so much more powerful because I have just been reading whom I got it so even that hi level of engaging for me in my two or three year study of scripture Looking out for those little nuggets. Even even though they're dot evenly spread out was just so much more fun. Yes 'cause I keep finding gems and powerful and how how. I viewed the thought process behind the riders in each of their books. So that was encouraging for me to yes that does that is really great. One other idea with a Bible study plan something I did several years ago. I found on Several free online studies that Jen Wilkin wrote and she also has audio recorded with them and so so maybe five or so years ago I found a study on Joshua and I asked a friend of mine from Church if she wanted to do that. Study with me And so we ended up doing that printed out the workbook and distinct to the book of Joshua we called once. It's a week and talked about a couple main things that stood out to us and then prayed together And this idea of Bible study is new whether it is these are not honestly That is such a great idea because it's helpful for you. It's accountability but it's also helpful for someone else and your relationship That was just a special time for us to get to know each other better as sisters sisters in Christ this fellow believers And so you know maybe think of someone in your church That you could linkup linkup with and encourage each other in your study of the word and here's a great free resource that you could use to do that. Yes I know my husband has done that. Eh Accountability with Some friends this past year and isn't even a conversation once a week they just text each other in the morning. Hey I read the passage wjr and this particular verse was such an encouragement that here my thoughts on it. So it's a two minute time commitment each morning but it it's encouragement that you know someone else is spending that time in the morning so it doesn't have to be a huge official plan and go to this coffee shop and spend one hour discussing. It's whatever works into your schedule. Yeah Yeah for sure that's great and kind of along those lines for those listening and you are not familiar with Bible liable. Study you've not really done it before. Don't let a huge time commitment. Be a discouragement to you because you can start. Small like Krista was saying eight verses day in just meditate on what those verses mean and You can grow from there so start with something and just keep going any other thoughts Krista on for those beginning. Yeah you know I really really just encourage you to pray about it and make this a matter that you take before God because he wants you to. We know him through his word even more than you do. That's why he's he's given it to us. He's preserved it through thousands of years So that we can know him and love him with all our heart soul mind and strength in how we can engage our mind in his word And Yeah I love that idea of just starting with something that you can commit to. I'm doing every day. Accountability is so helpful for me. Because I know someone else is going to be asking me. It's just another motivation And Ideally Navy. We would all be motivated just out of the good intentions of hearts but we are human and So having someone else check on us you know getting some gold old stars and feeling calendar Because even even things like that are check marks or whatever it helps us see how how consistent we actually are doing. Because I've had habits in my life before where I feel like I'm very consistent but then I actually start keeping track. uh-huh oh okay. I was only drinking this much water every day. Instead of commerce. I was so keeping track. Having someone else help help you do that..

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

01:43 min | 10 months ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

08:45 min | 10 months ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

"Then burst in deep study. But they've been burs in the crucible of your own life. When of the things I love about your teaching style is that and I? You know I'd be curious your answer whether or not it's just a just how you look the world and look at the word or eat. There is something strategic about how you do this but I love how how. You're able to step back a little bit and see the overarching picture and pull things out of the story that I wanted to see. Before for instance this morning you were talking about Leah and Rachel in the company then in at the very end you said no Leah is a picture of Christ in that that she was rejected And and there were just several things that you did this morning. That just showed me that you you thought in. I don't know how to say. Is it a the bigger picture mentality of how he reproach. How does those fresh? I guess what I'm asking is. How did those fresh truce hunt your heart or hung out of your study that you're able to then share with others or write in your book? I think that some some of that is starting to be the product of having having done this or awhile there is. There is a descriptive for that. It's called Biblical theology But I did not know Oh that there was such a thing as biblical theology. I had been introduced to systematic theology which is basically study of doctrines that we pull together reading reading the scripture But Biblical theology that idea that you see theme that you can trace throughout the scriptures. That was a a term that I hadn't heard word probably until five years ago and and then when I heard it I couldn't get clear on exactly what it meant and then I realized that it was actually what I was devoting my life to learning I just had the sort of official term for it and that is something that that You can certainly read need a biblical theology text or take a class on Biblical theology. And have someone tell you. These are the themes that you can find in the scriptures. But also if you're just just reading repetitively if you're just getting that text under your skin I do think that you begin to just make connections the more time that you've spent in the tax and and specifically in the story of Lia I have just I think you you would say a similar thing. I'm guessing based on some of the things you written. The stories of women in particular particular Sometimes suffered neglect in the commentaries. Yeah and I think that is not because I'm interior writers Hate women I think it's just because most of them are men and so a common experience of being a woman is not something that they have meditated on as much as a woman who's reading the text has so I do Find a particular enjoyment in devoting thoughts to those stories reese and because rarely it's becoming increasingly common. But but I would say that rarely in in the older commentaries that you'll read what you find someone drawing wrong connection between a woman's behavior and that of Christ or a woman story and that of price. Although those those stories are throughout scriptures assures though that story of Lia was particularly. That's why you were saying I cry. I cried through that teaching. Thank me because I think there are. There are a lot of women who think that the Bible is just predominantly talking about men. And I did on that to not be the case not l.. Not at all in fact I think that's one of my favorite things about Jesus is that he is our emancipator proclamator. You know loves women woman reveals himself to women over and over. Well I'm excited about your new study in Hebrews. That's coming out in you. Give little cheeser about what that involves. Well when I wrote this study originally for the women who were in my own study that I lead a and one of my friends had said Oh you should do. The book of Hebrews is just about the right length because we always do at ten or eleven weeks master and I thought Oh. Yeah that sounds really nice and neat and what we do what our strategy is do a year in the Old Testament in the year in the New Testament. So I thought Gosh I just. I'm ready to get back to the New Testament. Let's do a Nice Easy New Testament study while the IT doesn't go not really a new testament. Study it's real the New Testament study which it wasn't like I had read Hebrews. I should've seen it coming. I just hadn't really thought it through but it ended up being a real labor of love to put that study together. Because if there's ever a book that orces you to reconcile the God of the Old Testament with God new it's it's Hebrews in does so through the way that it presents price to us and and and just keeps hammering home on the message of You thought this was good. Jesus's better you thought better all the way through and and it's another one of those books that we we think we can. No you know we know we know that he reuss hall of fame or hall of faith however you describe it and we know Bruce Twelve about running the race and we have have these little sections of it. There were like yeah I know he bruce And then you get into it and you see the full sweep of the author's argument and it just it's just aureus. Oh I can't wait to do it. I have gone back to Hebrews a little bit and eds. Yes it's just it really is the old and the new and better. The Banner Priest in the better is all. How will I could talk to you forever my friend but an as he close? I'd just love to have you prayed for us. Girls who who are out there. Some of them argest the Bible. Study Girls Tuna core. They left the word guy on there in it all the time. There's others who who really wants you want wants to lead. The word of God don't know quite where to start but all of this all of us we Jesus girls and wanting more of your. Yeah which is pray. Blessing over us. He calls Oh absolutely heavenly father. We come to you and lift up each of these listeners. Wherever she finds herself south whether she has spent years in your word or whether she's wondering where to begin moored I pray that you would give each of NAM their resolve to go again end to your word and to open it expectantly and full of hope and with the curiosity of who is this God within we have to do and I pray especially award for those who are thinking as I remember so clearly thinking in my earlier years? I'm just not that interested in it and I think it's hard and it feels like it was written someone else. Lord I pray that you would grant them a desire a new desire in their hearts to want to know you through your word not just as simply learn and stories that seem out of place or ideas that are hard to follow but to understand that in those a stories and in those letters and in these collections of wisdom sayings. That you're very person is going to be revealed to them. I asked Lord that you would give them a desire for your word and a hunger for it and Lord I pray that in their local churches that they would find places says that are open to them to gather into learn together And that in their times where there alone at home and they find that they have a moment that they would sit an open and read and that your spirit would speak to them as they do so Lord thank you that you have given us that helper and that he delights to make him known us and I pray that whether these women find themselves in a season of life where they have a lot of time or a little time to give to this us you would prompt them to give what time a have And Lord that you would reassure them that you know their stage of life in the honor honor what they give you. Honor the investment that they'll give always always always yielded return on that investment.

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

08:08 min | 10 months ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

"Is that our faith is placed in the one who truly is all powerful all wonderful perfect. Sh if it's all about how it applies me my fallibilities That's where I'm putting. My Hope is how well I can lions. And when when he don't apply it well I begin to shame and I see God in the story and what his faithfulness and I have to confess invest. That's probably what am I. Weak places is I tend to look more at my disability. Then God's all sufficiency and and I love this. He's the main character I get playing apart that he is the one that it all points to. Then I'll needs to revolve all around and yeah and I think what I love. This does as you're talking about with the guy in all scripture. He's not just the New Testament guy. He's the old test that we see his love and his patients and his goodness power throughout They we have a better picture of WHO got release. Yes how how would you say to that woman who's new Bible. I will stay and she's like I feel so embarrassed because meeting. Maybe she'd just is a new Christian. Maybe she was raised in the church but she really doesn't know the Bible lashing though she should and it feels so daunting and overwhelming. What how would you surge earthy? Well first of all. I would just encourage her that she is not the exception. She is actually what she is. Articulating is the away. That just about every person I meet ill about the Bible and I will tell you that I still feel it. Even after years of teaching the Bible and I think what what we think. Is that if we begin to study that that feeling will go away at some point and I don't think that that's the case. I think the deeper that we get into into this the more we see that there is to learn and And so that feeling of inadequacy is one that I think many of us are carrying carrying around and we think it's a secret that we have to keep on more in church or when we're in a Bible study and so what we do at the villages we say. Hey let's just say it. We don't I don't know our bibles as well as we should. And let's change that. Let's start moving forward. Let's give you some tools so that you're not passive learner. Just simply listening into a sermon and and and taking. What's being said that so that you're an active learner so that you are Partnering in the work that you are doing work yourself self that you are reading the text before you hear teaching over it so that you're not just taking someone's word for it and so like any a good practice or skill that we have ever learned. We start out feeling inadequate in kind of dumb. And then I'm mm-hmm we grow in our proficiency. That's exactly the way my son felt the first time he sat down to play the piano. He didn't know what he was doing and he felt clumsy and stupid the first time he finished but then he came back the next day and he tried again and he came back the next any tried again and now he he plays you know Chopin I don't know that I feel like I'm playing chopin from a Bible students. I know I'm fifty so I've got a few years left in maybe get a little better at it and and And then we have all of eternity so Chris. Lord I I so agree I remember being any twenty-eight-year-old pastors lies and I hear women say I is book. And they told her either and I think I don't even understand it wasn't until I started partaking on my own. Even United States will method of reading reading you less so we can reflect more in really God's word speak to us that all of a sudden I once we start and we save Laura. Would you reveal your word. Would you open my mind. Spirit of wisdom and revelation. Help me. No God bear as we approach it with that kind of heart. It's it's almost it's almost exponential. You know we had. This idea will start clear back at the beginning. And yes maybe we do. But and I think we forget that we have the Holy Spirit Guide who promises to lead us in guidance to doll truth who alongside with his power in his revelation relation. And I just really. It's been burning in my heart. Encourage women don't worry about what you are not just begin. Just be just. You're exactly right. Make beginning yeah one of the things I wanted to ask you As a Bible study teacher and right after when things I've found challenging at a time at times is that I can tune to I'm not route tearful approach. God's word for what I can teach you and I love Bible. Set is awesome. But how how do you tape it to where it. There's also that personal aspect for you. Well I sometimes I get asked this question like what is your quiet time like versus your study time and I don't distinguish between the two But that means that it's even more important that when I am Studying and I know that I will be teaching it that I don't get ahead of it and teach something to the women that I have not I had to deal with in in heart and and so that's On the on the tough week where. You're like wow I really got to look at my sin this week. Wake and then you stand up and you teach but it makes you teach from a completely different place than if you are just trying to be a good communicator. Or you're just trying to make sure that you hit your three points and your conclusion and I think it definitely humanizes the teaching process and I remind myself That ultimately I'm Kohler with the women that I'm teaching But if I have a teaching gift it means that I have perhaps a little bit more of a natural curiosity van than Than the next person might though I am out ahead of the people that I'm teaching in the sense that I'm going to read a book that they might not pick up or I'm going to Maybe even give more time to it than they're going to but in terms of it hitting me in the heart and that's a process that I am a co learner with them along the way I cannot possibly ask them to repent of something that the spirit has not asked me to repent of before I stand up to teach it but I also joke. I joke with the women in my studies that if they want to know the level of accountability that I need to stay in the scriptures that I know I'm going to have to stand up and teach us to them I instead I better have spent enough time in it before I agree I agree I I remember. We served us when we went. Who are last pastor? It was very small church and we lived in the parsonage and I would teach them school in the prayer room and when Sandy 's okay. Listen we just need to stop rate. US had five miles. You get right with Jesus. I had three feet the there's a Willard Villainy but I think in some ways that does bring the word alive because we're not just being hearers and we're not. We're not even just teachers where leading God's word affect our lives and and again. I love allowed that I know that not not.

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

11:45 min | 10 months ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

"But really if you think about anything that you've ever learned in your whole life what begins as an Thought Exercise Moves remark thoughts to our hearts in such a way that we develop a love. The first thing about which we're learning one of the examples all used to teach on this is I son learning to play the piano when he first began learning there. Were for a lot of mechanical things that he needs. Learn to be able to develop an aptitude but in the midst of Development Act developing aptitude. He developed a deep love for the instrument the and over time and the more that he practiced his aptitude more his love for the instrument in the music increase. And and so I would say there's A. There's a loose parallel there to studying the Bible. But there's this other excellent part about studying the Bible that learning the piano doesn't necessarily have and that's the Holy Spirit speaking speaking to rule the words Jer and I I would say that if the word is indeed living an active as it's described to be than anyone anyone who has the Holy Spirit dwelling them because they are a believer in Christ should come to the word expectant that Sinking deeply absolutely and rightly about God will indeed transform. Our desires will transform our emotions so that they align with the truth of WHO. God is USC. That's really what I'm advocating for. When I asked women to have a thought level interaction with the Bible not that you would shut down your emotions I mean you you can? As as you've noted in the video I have this televangelist problem that happens when I try to read scripture and I start to cry and I cannot stop it I have asked the Lord to make it go. uh-huh away and in his actually gotten worse. So don't pray for you go away. That is our I mean that is it though is at the the the the words scripture our life giving they are God communicating to us about who he is about the implications of that for us as his image bearers and that is a deeply emotional. It is it is. It is a desire level impact that the spirit takes the words of scripture and uses them to to reshape us. A man. Well I think the problem is if we we don't let touches chess. It really just remains head knowledge and we know odd about God out. We don't know yet. I think that's the thing. I so appreciated about her ministry. Is You take us to the word in you. Teach US how to look at it with critical in all of that. The did the Dan just very gently. Not Not on a not in a you know a kind of emotional basis but you decide how. How does this what does this look like for you? How does this affect your life and I think for me? That's where everything changed because otherwise I was just reading getting through the Bible without the I will get through to me Earnings read it in with the Lanza. What what is this team to my heart? Well I love Atlantic of Yogi. was you just give us a little glimpse of Um what that looks like in your personal as you're studying cuts word. How does it go beyond just head knowledge in doing our duty or Christian duty to read where guy to really allow compound that heart knowledge? Now I think a lot of it is just coming into the Bible as you've described A little bit just asking the Bible able to speak to us a five. I grew up. I think with an idea that the Bible was supposed to tell me about me and certainly the Bible does tell us about who we are are but it does so through the Lens if you got it and what. I know that I was missing the most is I entered into adulthood in my interactions with. This pictures was I lacked a transcendent vision of God. I did not perceive him to be near and almost sort of snugly but I did did not understand the God who thundered from Mount Sinai. I did not understand the God of Mount Zion who is a consuming fire and not only that but I was a a little terrified that that God in my perception at the time had at one time existed in the Old Testament and I didn't know how to bring that image forward to the New Testament without got it perhaps doing injury to my understanding of of what it meant that God loved me and so coming into more of a maturity in my faith. Big Part of that was coming to understand that the Bible is giving us a picture of God who is near ear. But who also is transcendent. So anything about opening lines of the Lord's prayer is our father but he's also in heaven and those two intention and are wet Help us to then read the Scriptures Not just for encouragement which was a big pattern that had been given to me. I think in my upbringing but also That they would be exhorting us they would be calling us to repentance and that even as believers we live with a right understanding that the God who has sought relationship with us is seated between the chair Bam and two ideas. Both the God who has near in the God who transcends are necessary Siri for us to to come to the scriptures in the right auster so that we're looking not just you feel close to him to understand understand. What a privilege it is that relationship has been extended to us at all so true so I think I think we tend towards one the extreme or the other? So how do we bring. How how did that come together for you? I know that's a big question. But when did those pieces start getting together rather than Haina clashing against each other. Well one of the things that has been a huge blessing lessing in my life. Is that my earthly father is is a very kind and good father and so you were saying people tend to go one direction or the other with this. Yes and I think so. Much of that often has to do with what they're earthly. Father has been like. What kind of influenced at father has had on them because my earliest conceptions exceptions of God very easily went to that he was good and then he loved me and but for many people that is not the case an an and also so? My father is not a heavy authoritarian figure. And so two so. I think the other the holiness of God was the piece for me needed reinforcement and when my husband and I were in our late twenties we were in a newlywed Sunday school class and they did a study by RC. Sprawl on the holiness of God. Yes and it was the beginning I think for me of of realizing the piece that I was missing and in the developing real hunger to know I had a I say I had a a decent familiarity with the with the municipal attributes. God the things that are true about God at we understand in our humanity that can also be true about us. I knew that he was merciful. And loving and good and and peaceful and along suffering. I knew those things about him that I had not meditated on some of his incommunicable attributes that he was omniscient on an and Omni present. Those things were were not things I had spent a lot of time thinking about and and so that became sort of the pursuit of about five or ten years. Just reading reading and thinking and Even teaching studies on on. Who got is that An? I've come to see even more clearly over the last over over ten years how we call it the doctrine of God but that the doctrine of God was in many ways missing from what we were teaching in our churches. And it's really important. It helps us to read the Bible. I'm with an eye toward what it's telling us is true about odd so that became something to recover. I love that. I'm I don't know if this is original with you but I'm I heard someone coach you s see that that the Bible is the story of God. He's he's the main character and that is just been resonating in my heart because I think it goes to what you're what you're talking about. We tend to make it all about us as though you're you're the meat carrier. We can really grasp that this is the story of God in. We are apart of that story rather than him being a part a story by how how can we. How can we refer his around? Well I do think that we many of us what I have found in leading Bible Studies in asking like you've probably noticed in the in the studies that you've done actually. I don't know that I did it in the sermon. On the Mount Study but definitely invited haven't got creation at the end of each each section of homework. We asked the same question in its on. What did you learn about God in Texas Week in and what I've learned having that A. B. The question that's asked every week over the period of time now for almost twenty years? Twenty five years is that women have a difficult time with answering that question. In fact a lot of times I would get emails from women saying Hey. What was the answer to that question on? We never speeder study. Mike or McGinnis were unique to come up with the answer. You know like you can do that but we have almost like an an an atrophied or an underutilized underutilized muscle. When it comes to answering that question we have become accustomed to looking or the lesson that we are supposed to take from from a particular portion of the text that we have forgotten to start by saying what is this story or this psalm or This this part of this epistle ailing me about who is an an and so that then changes the application that we're going to draw hermits. It's like we're we just finished a study first and second Samuel Village and in I Samuel you come across that famous story of David Goliath and we have a tendency to read it and turn it into almost a fable that it that has a moral of the story where to take away you know. Stand up and face your giant. It's and it's not that there is nothing to that but the first question that we need to ask is. What is God? Doing the story of David and Goliath DOT is demonstrating. That what he has said will come to pass. We'll come to pass out as demonstrating that he is. He alone is God among nations And and so the miracle is not David and the stone so much as it is. God striking down Goliath in Iraq wolf manner and and and then we have a tendency to one identify the story with David when in fact in any of the stories once you've identified what God is doing begin to realize oh I'm actually supposed to identify. NFL with the Israelites. Like I'm the people cowering in the background wringing our hands and wondering what we should do Which of course newsy that? God is is reigning sovereign lanes freely in that story. That has a lot to say to. Those who would cower in tremble in the face of opposition will in the me the beautiful part art approaching Bible.

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

11:38 min | 10 months ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on The Living Room with Joanna Weaver

"Well if you're like I used to dear friend you know that you need to get into gods were but you really don't know how to do it or where to begin well for me. My love for the Bible started in women's Bible steady as a young pastors and I'm so excited to share today's interview with one of the Best Bible teachers. I Know Jen woken. Jen has a passion to see women. Love God not only with their heart heard especially with their mind as they steady. God's Word in meaningful ways here's our conversation. I am so excited to have Wilkin. Wilken with can is an amazing fiber studied teachers. Season author folks like women if the word how to study the Bible of our hearts arts none like him in his image and then we'd personally done several of her studies including sermon on the mountain. And right now we're in God have been covering it and so so powerful. Jen I am so happy to have you with us. Welcome to the living room. Thanks Joanna so nice to be on on the end I I was telling you before we got onto. I feel like I kind of know you because I just spent the morning with you and our own Bible study so powerful powerful much better hairstyle in in the version of me. You were watching this morning. You're our snapshot so so we can put it in the show notes. US kind of it is kind of Nice to have the edited version of us the world rather than the Tuesday morning version while you are busy busy. Not only do you write right and speak. I'll all around the place that you're also on staff with the village Church House a little bit about your position yet. My current role. There is the director after a classes and curriculum as part of the village Church Institute so I have responsibility for all of our adult classes and the largest portion of that would be our men's and women's Bible Studies. Wow I love it and so I I think that's so neat because like for me. A lot of my writing has coming out of my ministry at the Church that we serve. But how's that. How's that work in your life? You find yourself kind of writing studies I use and then discerning whether or not they should become polished or is that just a the process that you used right your studies while it's it's been interesting. The studies that I have have made available thus far have all been sort of the product of either my teaching in a living room or teaching Para Church on texts and when I started started on staff at the village in this role we started writing collaboratively ammon I asked the The managing editor on the project. What we're doing is really formulaic? And so they have a very similar. Feel to what I was writing when it was just me writing for the studies that were happening As part of my Para Church Ministry. So I don't know in terms of publishing I honestly I never thought I would publish any of it and Wisconsin just making it available for free and that's something that the village continues to do anytime we put out a new study. Say they place it on the website. You can find news it. I'll out that generosity. I think I think God really blesses that so. I'd like to dig a little deeper. You never thought that you would be a traditionally published. No I didn't I ahead no and I certainly never thought I would write a book I had discovered blogging as a means of communicating additional content. That I hadn't had time to teach in my Bible study that it could be a teaching platform. It sort of made sense for me as just sort of an online bicester processor assessor thoughts. I didn't really have a good feel for that But then as soon as I was like Oh wait a minute. This is the way that I can take forty five minutes of teaching hat and turn it into a much longer time period. Which is what the teachers secretly always wants I started using it for that and then also to address Parenting questions that were bubbling up through some of the were forming relationships with at the church at. I didn't know how to check the statistics on it. I didn't know how to know if anyone was reading it or not. And over time it developed a following and that that ended up leading to a through through several different things leading publisher. Just calling me and asking me if I wanted to right. That is so cool. That is so cool. So how how do you do all that you do. I mean because you also have a family. Does that look like because I know there's some girls that are listening that are on there in ministry either Ole time were part time your own tier basis and that can always be a challenge of. How do I balance working? How a mystery and and just even intimacy with God? How's how's that all that for you? Oh It's been just so easy. Joanne I mean has green I am now. We have four children who are now grown My youngest went to college in August so he's just finishing his freshman year and and so My entire life as a mom I was either participating in or creating teaching I will studies for women and And either working part time or full time in some a ministry capacity only fulltime recently and a lot of that is just has been due to you. I think most of our women listeners would attest to the fact that there are just not a whole lot of full-time roles for women in the church at teaching writing curriculum. So I'm thrilled. That that has turned into a source of full time employment or maybe understand it still pretty rare out there right But it's always been pretty much fulltime concern whether I was being paid to do in in any way or not and when the kids were little the only way I can describe it is that it's felt like a compulsion for me. It's the thing that I know. The Lord has given me to I do and my husband recognizes at and has always been extremely supportive And not only that but I always like to mention that he did not travel aval like his job allowed him to be home no at at about five thirty every night so I had a ton of support with the kids and certainly in the evenings and on the weekends and then also has been who has just completely bought into me doing my thang. Isn't that waxing that is so I have seen Covering and I just. I'm so grateful. Thank you not take it for granted. Oh it's IT'S A. It's a game changer. In terms of just what you're able to actually commit to do and Your ability to focus on it and I always think you know I think sometimes there are younger women and he will ask me that question of how did you balance and what what. Sometimes the question behind the question is is. was there a cost your family associated needed with you doing ministry and And if so how did you. How did you try to get rid of that ost and and and so oh I do always like to point out to those younger women that there's always a cost a cost to anything that takes time went? We have a small families and even growing families. But that doesn't mean that you aren't willing to pay. It means the way it and decide what what is worth your time. And what isn't and and when it came to the ministry commitments. Our agreement is a family was this is worth it and then because we've said this is worth then. As even as the children grew our whole family mullaly worked together to make sure that when mom was gone on Tuesday nights teaching that everybody their homework done managed all their own stuff got to bed on sometimes it became a family effort instead of just this. Is Mom sing that she does. I think that's so good so important to you and I think I think that there might the some young women or even other women her like that. I don't have that kind of support in exit. You can really rub is is the wrong way but I. I found that for me. At least my schedule is limited and God himself. Kind of put those Romans on me and but each each time An opportunity comes my way. I've learned just bring it to John. Empty go we pray. Ask for what he thinks. And as as I've been willing to kind of submit under his leadership I feel like that's read him less everything thank I too and if there is something that doesn't feel comfortable with I've learned to listen to you. Is your husband been a little bit of that Saudi Ward for you as well. Oh He's great. He's great about all of that and he's he's also a truth teller with me like he's the one who you know he. He knows that he's the one you have to say. Hey you said this. Is that what you really mean. Someone else might not be willing to challenge something. I mean the Lord knew exactly who I needed to be married to. And he's very good at At keeping me this balanced and and focused and at the same time time Looking at the particular gifts that the Lord has given me and celebrating them instead of know seeing them as some sort of potential threat. He has always been. I'm like. Oh my gosh. The church needs this. Our family And that's just been a really thing to see with him but really we all have different cities and we all have different stages of life that we go through and we all have different marriages and all of that impacts our ability to say yes they know two different things and those things are typically changing over the course of our lifetime so what might have worked five years ago may not work anymore now so there's always a a an ongoing in conversation between us about what what makes sense now versus will sense not even two years back. That is so so good. You know I feel you like it. There was one thing that just kind of is an overarching theme in and what you do in the fighting Christ is just creating a hunger for the word of God and I love that NASA is listening to you actually last week teach in the gun at the Covenant. Steady You you got choked up. That'll several points through the steady and I can't even tell you how much that hatched me because because I think we so desperately need yes we need biblical literacy that we need that the word of God coming a liked liked to us in attached at those deep places. Can you talk about that. How do we study the Bible with both our hearts in our minds? I think that when people start talking about reading the Bible as an exercise of the mind when they start thinking about What it means to think critically about what they're reading in in terms of just like weighing when I idea against another or even looking for Adam to some of those basic things that you would do in any line by line approach approach that it can feel like it's going to be a clinical or a cold practice.

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

Daily Grace

04:11 min | 1 year ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

"Hey everybody welcome back to another episode Soda Daily Grace. This is Joanne with Stephanie Halo H-a-l-o so we are really excited about today's topic. I think that this is probably one of our most frequently asked questions for the podcast and that is the question of what is God's will will for my life and how do I figure it out yeah. It's a pretty big question and we are definitely going to get into that and so before we do Stephanie. Do you have a favorite thing to share for us this week. I do so earlier this week. We've got sue record with Ruth Joe Simon's and she's the artist of grace laced and you know I love Ruth <hes> she has just been a sweet mentor of mine from afar and so oh my goodness it was an absolute delight in a privileged to get to chat with her and and goodness wouldn't you say she's like so gracious and so while Fokin and full of wisdom so that was just definitely a highlight of my week yeah that was hugely edifying for me to Oh my agonise yeah how about you. I think that my favorite thing this week I wanted to share is a book that I'm reading right now and my church started this summer doing the summer book clubs Cujio's really fun because we get a chance to have these small group settings and read some books together and so we're reading a book called identity theft in my group who and it's written by a lot of different authors <hes> Jen Wilkin Hannah Anderson Melissa Kruger trillion new Bell Ma'am several others too and it is about our identity in Christ and basically talks about a lot of different types of identity theft that we have so ways that we misplace our identity so it's really been really excellent and especially after after recording our own episode identity in Christ which was episode nine so definitely recommend that episode and definitely recommend the book to yeah there are a lot of good authors right there Oh yeah and they're even more in their each chapters written by somebody different so so it's been it's been really good but like we said we are going to be talking about this question. Of How can we know God's will for our lives and like I said I have gotten this question a lot of the podcast I have seen it a lot on the Lip and light page. I have had a lot of people talk about this. Just in my regular life you know people. I'm thinking about like students that I've had when I was a teacher or people that I've they've just met up with for coffee. They're just wanting to know what is it that God wants me to do. And how do I know that I'm doing the right thing. Yeah and I think that this question comes up a lot with like big life decisions so we WanNa know God's will for for our life and find answers to questions like is this the person God wants me to marry or is it God's will for me to live in Atlanta or New York. Is this the job I'm supposed to take. What should be my major in college? Should I even go to college is God's will for me to have one kid twelve kids. Is this guy the one is this house. The one right we kind of go to these big life questions and we just want to know. I know what is God's will what does he want me to do. And how do I figure it out and honestly it makes total sense. We'd want to know God's will in these areas because let's be honest. These are things that we don't want to mess up right these big deal things and so I think there there are a lot of different ways that we tend to go about trying to decipher what God's will for our lives is. I think one of the big ones is that we just try to hear God we pray really really hard and try to listen for a voice or maybe like a feeling a notion that says do this not this or I've heard of people like just dropping their bibles open on a table and seeing what it falls open to and trying to find a verdict that will give this enlightenment on how I should move forward. <hes> you know maybe we wait for some kind of sign..

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

Daily Grace

02:43 min | 1 year ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

"But the truth is we cannot escape the the effects of our own sin. We cannot escape the effects of pushing God away and pushing down our issues instead of bringing them before. God. And since and, you know, it's kind of like when we're looking into social media, and we are trying so hard to put forth this certain image stuck staring at our own reflection. Might were so consumed with looking at ourselves, but when we fix our eyes. So firmly on ourselves that means that we're -verting our gaze away from Jesus where -verting away from God. And you know, we might ignore the sin issues that are taking root in our heart. But that doesn't mean that they go away. Yeah. You're absolutely right. And we can't fix our is on Christ and fix them on our cells to see idea that you can't glorify God. Which is your God, given purpose and glorify yourself. Right. We try to but. Yeah. So in every interaction whether we post or we respond to someone else's posters. Just this opportunity to fall into that to glorify ourselves, and those are just. Times where we can ask ourselves. Like, hey is the true intent here self glorification rail how or how is this going to glorify God? Meaning how is this going to reveal him and his nature to others? Or is this really making much of Christ or me? Yeah. Those are just questions that I feel like I have to ask myself every time, you know, I been replied someone else's post. You know? And I think another pitfall social media is just our inability to be still before the Lord, you know, in our American culture entertainment is just always before us, and we see it in our kids like a lot of times, they don't know how to be bored, and we've just become people that are constantly stimulated. And this really threatens our ability to focus at threatens our literacy and thinking back. On Jen Wilkin and women of the word, you know, she mentions dwelling in the I don't know of a passage and really working through it before jumping to a commentary. And and that really was convicting for me when I read it years ago, and it's convicting for me even now because it's really hard to do because we have at our fingertips with the IRS. We can see what all of our favorite theologians have to say on a particular passage in. Yeah..

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

Daily Grace

01:43 min | 1 year ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

"And you know, when it comes to our densities, we have to realize really our lives. We have to realize that there are three enemies the world our flesh, and the devil and all three seek to have misplace our identities. And yeah, you know, I'm really excited to get more into this today. But just to kind of set up this conversation. I think our hope is to encourage one another to seek truth. You know, we wanna hold the word of God as our alternate authority on truth in in answering this fundamental questions. So because we really wa. Want to live in the fullness of who we are in Christ. So I wanted to start off with Jen Wilkin, quote that we have used multiple times on this podcast. And it's the quote there is no true knowledge of self apart from knowledge of God. Because that is the key to this conversation when we you know, when it boils down to it because just think about it a fallen heart kind of suppresses true, self knowledge because a fallen unredeemed heart doesn't know God. It's just this idea. But God is the one who created us. So he has the authority to tell us who we are. And it makes sense that are self knowledge is tethered to our knowledge of our creator and even more than that. He gives us a spirit to help us experienced this reality, more and more in our lives. And that's just beer grace. So let's dive in and talk about this idea of misplace identity. Yeah. I think that there are a lot of different places. Ios that we and when I say, we I'm including myself on this that we had to to go to look for what our identity is..

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

Daily Grace

03:48 min | 1 year ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

"But before we go into kind of the meat of our conversation. Let's get a little personal and. I wanted to do this just in case there are listeners out there who like me grew up in the church with ample exposure to the bible, but never really realized that there was a unifying narrative to the bible and never really noticed that every book of the bible alternately points to Jesus. So join us start us off. When did you first realize that there was this thing called a meta narrative of scripture or a unified storyline in the bible that all points decrease? Yeah. It's actually kind of crazy how long it took. You know, I have talked about, you know, I grew up in the church by you know, I heard all of these bible stories, and I could tell you a lot of different bible stories, but I never actually thought about how they all fit together. And it wasn't until probably a few years ago that I I heard this term. And I think that the first time I heard it as China remember back when that I I hear it. I think it was when I read Jen Wilkins book women of the word. Yeah. And she talks about seeing this big story and how to study the bible in light of that big story. And you know, it really transformed the way that I've used scripture before this. I was never really drawn to the Old Testament. I would kind of read it and didn't really know what to do with it. You know, and I will say that. Once I read about this for the first time, it's like, my eyes were opened and this whole new world opened up. What about you Stephanie? When did you first become familiar with this idea? Again, I think it's so similar. I grew up in the church like I said, and I was never really taught how to study the bible for myself. But whenever I did study a book, it was very random, and every book was very disjointed all of our Sunday school lessons. Whatever the bible stories were taught it was really to encourage morality and really didn't point to the redemptive work of Christ. An example. Of this is like the famous David and Goliath rate. We talked to our kids about it. And how David is this amazing hero? And he was so brave and took down the giant with some stones. Really? If you if we want to look at it with this redemptive history kind of in mind at saying, no, David was the imperfect hero, and there I how he's pointing to the perfect here of Jesus coming. And I think you're absolutely right. Jen Wilkins book was really pivotal in my walk to. And I think for me it was because she showed me that the bible is about God not about me. And like, you said that transformed how I approach the word and read the word and really like you said as well, like, my spiritual eyes were open, and I was able to actually see Christ in the Old Testament and really enjoyed like reading Deuteronomy in those book, we like to skip over like really changed me. And I think it was also about the same time that I started reading. The Jesus storybook bible to my Eliana. Yes. Five years ago, and oh my goodness. That is such a great little book that shows it really points. Jeez. Military beginning anew will find yourself easing, even as an adult season believer just being an off of God. These little Chiltern story and weeping. Yeah. Every time I read them out loud daughters. Kind of looking at me. Like, what are you doing? I'm just hearing up. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's so interesting because you're talking about seeing Christ in the Old Testament, and you know, growing up I was taught that like there are these passages that point to Jesus sees right Fifty-three about Jesus, you know?.

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

Daily Grace

04:20 min | 1 year ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

"According to his good pleasure. He's the one that invites us to join in on his work. So all of that to say it does require work, but don't get discouraged. Yeah. Absolutely. And you know, the bible God's word plays a huge role in that sanctifying process that process of growing in holiness by the power of God. Right. The power of the Holy Spirit. You know to second Timothy three sixteen going back to that verse again talks about how scripture is useful for training us in righteousness. And so yeah, it does take discipline to go to God's word and to ask those questions. But when we do that. We gain a greater knowledge of him. And like we said before we are transformed into his image. So one thing I wanted to add to that the suggestion of reading book of the bible through is choose a short book of the bible. You know, we didn't give you an exact book to start with. But just a recommendation is choose a shorter book of the bible. So that you can read it from beginning to end one sitting maybe and that you can repetitively read it there is such a benefit of just sitting down and reading for content and context, you don't have to have a pencil case of highlighter every time you come to the word. Right. So just read it, but I will also highly recommend setting the goal for yourself resolved to read through the word in one calendar year. I know that this cystic has kind of floating around social media, but it takes about seventy hours to read through the. Entire bible. I'm a slow reader. So it might take seventy five hours. Seventy five hours we can afford seventy five hours in one calendar year of our lives. And so I wanted to do that. I also had two more suggestions. But before I go onto them Joanna. Let's share your suggestions. Yeah. So I would say, you know, like we said before there is no substitute for God's word. But that doesn't mean that extra biblical resources right resources outside of the bible that doesn't mean that those aren't helpful to us as well. So I did want to recommend if you're looking for maybe some books to help you along this journey. I have a few suggestions. So I love Jen. Wilkins books. None like him and in his image and these books go through twenty attributes of God, the first one is what we call incommunicable attributes which are attributes that we don't share with God. Right. Like that. He is all powerful. Oil or that he is sovereign. And then the other book in his image. Are the communicable attributes those are things that we can reflect like God's love, for example. So these are really accessible easy to read putt. Just packed full of awesome truth resource for you to kind of start on that journey of even learning some terminology. If you're interested in that if you want to maybe get a little bit more scholarly. I have to the Allah g books that I highly recommend they're both called systematic theology. But one is by Wayne gruesome and one is by John frame. These are great kind of reference books that you can go to to kind of learn about God and his attributes and how how scripture describes him. Yeah. I was really excited when I saw that you mentioned them. Yes. They're so good. They're huge bugs. But I absolutely love them. Now one. The other thing I want to mention, and I can't stress the importance of this enough is the local church. Your local church being involved in Christian community in person is incredibly important you need to be sitting under the teaching of those in leadership over you. Right. Teaching from your pastors and elders leaders in your church, you know, having someone in your community to walk alongside of you in your study of scripture right in a discipleship role..

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

Daily Grace

03:33 min | 1 year ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Daily Grace

"He gave you a desire to write bible studies for women before any of this ever happened. And so, you know, for those women who maybe aren't in this kind of season of pain and loss and grief and suffering. What would you tell them as they approach? God's word. I think it's just so interesting to me as I look back on that season of life and think about how God was preparing me for something. I didn't know I was going to face and the Lord was just in his kindness working in my heart desire to be in the word because he knew that I would need that foundation of what I had already learned about him. And he knew that I would need that just daily habit of going to the word so that it would be an immediate response. And so I think you know, I've heard Jen Wilkin like in being in scripture to a savings account to which we are making deposits every time we in scripture, and that is just exactly what my experience was just got in his sovereign grace and mercy burden my heart to get into the word before I face tragedy. And that foundation of God's word is what I. Clung to in the season. I ran to God's word because I didn't know what else to do. And got us the things that I'd already been reading to minister to me and prepare me for what is a head. And I still have the journals just from right around that time, and I can look back in my journals, even before we lost so FIA even to the morning of the day that we lost so FIA and see how I was reading scripture and writing about how you know things happen in the lives of the believer. And we don't understand them. But we can always trust the character of God. And when I read those words, I'm just reminded of how God was already preparing me already coming alongside me that he already knew he wasn't taken off guard. Even though I was and that is such a comfort as we walk through suffering or hardship or difficulty to. I know that the Lord already knows he is not surprised like we are now when I hear your testimony area story. I just yeah. I hear the goodness of God and his kindness toward us because he didn't just he wasn't surprised by it. You were surprised by it. But he was not surprised by this. And he was kind enough to stir your heart and stir your factions for his word, and and allowed you to have a friend that came along and had that accountability piece to dig into his word like that is God's grace towards you and toward each towards each of us, right? And yeah, I just think it's amazing. And that you got to know the God of the bible, and that was how when tragedy struck you were able to trust him because you knew him, and you had that foundation of biblical litter. Chrissy, which is what we're talking about today before we go any further, you know, I don't know if all of our listeners have heard that term biblical literacy, do you think that you could define that for us? And then I know we kind of touched on this already..

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Risen Motherhood

Risen Motherhood

05:50 min | 2 years ago

"jen wilkin" Discussed on Risen Motherhood

"Who are in the average classroom. That was a huge thing for our kids and for a lot of their friends as well. And then opportunities that are there for kids to go and help out in the classrooms with children only just a lot of cross pollination so that whereas when I was growing up children with special needs were kind of often another room and we didn't an and you know, you didn't know what to do. It was awkward and strange. It just isn't like that anymore. I love that a love that you encounter socioeconomic diversity and you encounter a lot of really sad stories like that. Sounds like a terrible thing to be thankful for. That. My kids would come home in tears over something that they had learned about a friend's marriage, the parents, the marriage on apart or or something that had happened to someone and just things that don't always get talked about youth group, you know, and and yet they had to confront some really hard things early on in life and ask some questions about where is God in the middle of all of this, and how can we speak words of comfort to someone who's going through this? And so those were all just things that I really treasure about them. Having been in the public school people from different religions. We have a huge Mormon population at the high school where my kids went in our community. And so we've had a lot of really good conversations about Mormonism and the differences between Mormonism and Christianity. Because if he raise kids according to. Christian worldview and they're kind of staying out of some of the typical things that other people are doing, they're they're good. Friends are probably gonna end up being the Mormons because the Mormons are probably voiding a lot of the same behaviors. That added that was particularly for conversation. Just real. And so that then when they go off to college or whatever's next after high school, they're not encountering this questions for the first time. Yes, definitely sounds like just a wonderful training ground. Whereas if you were to select a different education option, you know, you might just have to work harder to find those things, expose your children to those things. And that certainly just a really beautiful thing for the kids to be exposed to diversity early on and exposed to just even the broken of the world. Like you were saying. Those are great moment, sue, be able to train your child in biblical thinking and understanding just like where hope applies where the gospel pies there every day because they need that. Like it's a very real and bright thing in their life in their daily life at school. So Jen, is there any last thing that you would love to say to a mom? I feel like we have to start ending the interview time always hits. I'm always like jenness talk a little bit more. Is there one last encouragement that you would offer to among kind of in our stage at the beginning of this. Who's just feeling like this is a big decision, but could you just share some gospel hope for her? Absolutely. You know, we're not given to a spirit of fear, and, and so this is a decision that you're capable of making as the parent. And if you make one decision and it's not working out, then as the parent, you can make a different decision. Children are very resilient. My stepmom would always say that, like, oh, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe not my. Say our kids are made of rubber bounce right back, right. And I think if we if we view our education choice is as which path will help my child avoid the most potential adversity. That's the wrong way to think about it. And if we look at it as I always like to be clear, we did not send our children to public school so they could be missionaries. We sent them there so that they could learn to read in to do math. Over time. Of course, as they grew into maturity, there were opportunities where they wanted to share their faith, but that the point of your education choice, I would urge should be primarily related to learning because children are going to face. They're going to face issues of faith differently depending on what environment they're in and no education environment has they have different sets of pressures, but they all have pressures associated. So you could end up with your child at an environment where their faith is never challenged, or you could have them in an environment where people pretend to be really good Christians and then are doing ever covertly or you. You know, there's always a set of difficulties associated with any educational environment. Kids are gonna go into. So I would, I would say, start by weighing the merits of how good education is much all going to get and then give yourself permission to course, correct. If you need to pray a whole lot. Yeah, we really, really appreciate you coming on and sharing. This I think is just so encouraging. You're actually the third in the series that we've gone through. And I, I hope that the moms that have tuned in through this process are feeling a little bit more like this is about giving glory to God and who we are as you said and not the minutiae of what we decide. He's so much bigger and so much more sovereign and that and we don't know the end, but he does. And so we can just keep obeying him when step at a time. Just so hopeful at the end of this. And I hope everyone who is listening feels that way as well. So thank you so much for the wisdom that you added to this conversation. Thanks for letting me chime in.

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Risen Motherhood

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"jen wilkin" Discussed on Risen Motherhood

"They. Motherhood is hard. One second. We think we're doing a good enough job and the next week Bulich the worst mom on the planet, which is why we need the refreshing truth of the gospel to be repeated over and over giving us hope in the everyday moments. So mama, whether you're sipping coal copy or doing a sink full of dishes. We hope you'll find truth, encouragement and laughter here this is the Brisbane motherhood podcast. Thanks for joining us. Hey, guys, Laura here. Welcome to the final installment of our four part series on educating our children and the gospel. If you miss it the past few weeks, we encourage you to go back and listen to all our episodes on education. The gospel. We've done a high level overview of what scripture speaks to about how educate our children, and then we've zoomed in through three different interviews to learn more about how God leads individual families in different ways of educating their children. The first was Melissa Kruger with private schooling. Second was Irene sign with home school. And today we're hearing from our final mom, Jen Wilkin. She'll be speaking to how she sent her children through public education and the freedom she found in the gospel, Jen serves on staff at the village church and is an author and bible teacher. You probably heard us talk a lot about her book women of the word, how to study the bible with both our hearts and our minds. It's a favorite here at risen motherhood for learning how to study the bible properly. She was also written unlike him, which talks about ten ways got his different. From us, and that's a good thing and has a new book coming out in his image which explores the other side of that coin, ten attributes of God that Christians are called to reflect. This book is already available for preorder as it comes out in may of this year. Of course you can find jen's work all over the web. So we've included links for where you can follow her on risen motherhood dot com. In addition, just want to make sure all of, you know, better landing page at Brisbane, motherhood dot com. Slash education. This is a special spot designated on our site for all our education resources that we've collected during our schooling series here at our 'em. We know it's a big important topics. We wanted to make it super easy to find everything there. You'll find links to all the interviews and show notes discussion questions for the shows and any extra articles resources. And of course, the questionnaire document that we've developed if you've not checked this out yet, let me encourage you to do so the entire document is just made of intentional questions that you and your husband can work there as you process through this decision. We've pray that it will be a blessing to you. Okay. Nell, let's get to the interview with Jen Emily and me. Hi Jen. Thank you so much for joining us on the risen motherhood podcast today. I'm so glad to be on. Thanks for having me. Yeah, we know you've been on the show before, and a lot of our listeners are really familiar with your work and your writing, and we just love you resum other hood, obviously, but can you give a quick background just for anyone who might have heard of you yet and talk a little bit about your family and your what your day looks like. And then of course, how you educate your children. Okay. I'm Jen. I've been married to Jeff for almost twenty five years. It'll be twenty five years this summer, and it's so funny. He's actually sitting over there while we're recruiting, big cheer. So that's a good sign. Probably that he's. Number. We have four children. They are Matt. He's Twenty-one. Mary Kay is twenty. Clear is nineteen, and Calvin is seventeen. All the birthdays are getting ready to flip. So only one left at home right now, Calvin is a senior in high school and he believe in August to join his siblings, Texas am university. He cannot wait all of them together. Amazing. Yeah. I mean, he does find our company delightful, but I is about ready. He's about ready to go vote for sure. I am on staff at the village church in the village church institute have responsibility for all of our adult classes at our five campuses. And my thing that I loved the most is to talk about by literacy in the church and especially among women, and we chose to send our children through public school from start to finish. So can you walk us through your decision for public education? You said that you've done that from start to finish. So taking yourself back to your mom of young Little's especially in kind of at the precipice of that decision. Can you walk us through a little bit how that worked for you and your husband? Yeah. Well, I always like to say up front that I fully acknowledged that this is a very personal decision, and there are million factors that impacted and what worked for us is not necessarily going to work for everyone. But I do like to give our perspective because sometimes. People in Christian communities will write off this option as not being one that they can consider at all. And so while I don't think that our situation is necessarily normative, I do like to talk about it just to let people know that you can love the Lord and send your children to public school in all of the other pieces of the puzzle lineup. But when our kids were small, we had probably tell from the ages that I said, our children were all born within four years. So there's exactly four years between my oldest, Matt and my youngest Calvin. And so I think because of that, we had to assess things a little differently than someone who may be had their children a little more spread out or who may be had fewer children or even more children. You know, that's something that affects the way that you make this decision. And so in our case, financially, private school was not going to be an option for us. Especially with having so many in at the same time. I mean, right now I've got three in college. Another one heading out the door to to join them soon. And so if we had done private school for all of their earlier years, there was just no way we were going to be able to think about having money available for them that time for them to go off to college just because it's just so many of them right in a row. So we did not seriously consider private school because of financial restrictions. So I don't wanna say that we weighed finding that we weighed private school heavily against public school and then chose according to our conscience. It wasn't that it just was an option for us finding chili. And so then you're faced with well, homeschool our public school and at the time that our kids were little, we were in community. There were a ton of home schoolers, and they were actually doing it really well. They were doing co off. They had proms. We were in the Houston area, and I think that area was maybe a little bit ahead of some of the areas that we had lived in at other times where you know you kind of thought his home of home schooling as sort. Like, why would anybody do that? We felt that way about home schooling, but we also come from a family of public educators. And so we had some convictions around public school as an ideal. And also we were living in an area where the public schools from an academic standpoint were excellent, which meant the decision for us was not going to be based on whether or not they would get a good education in the one environment versus the other. And so when we think about our children schooling option for us, at least we did not feel an impulse to shield arch children from influences that they might encounter in the public school. And again, the education piece was not a factor, so we weren't living somewhere where it's an inner city school or where the funding is bad. I have family members who have have public schools near them that I don't know how you would ever have the courage to send your child there. Although many people do, and I think it can be admirable. But a lot of. The factors that sometimes keep people from right out of the gate saying yes to public school. Those have not ever been an issue. And I, I love how you bring up there just so many factors. And that's even among our own friend group says, we've been having these conversations. That's an observation we've made is that when you look at the financial piece of the puzzle and we'll literally what school is in your neighborhood and what does that specific school lake? You know, all of those different questions come into play, and so it's really hard to just make a blanket statement of any kind that says, oh, this is better decision. So kind of bridging into that question. Can you just talk us through why we have freedom in Christ in this decision and just kind of, is there a better twice? I think we've kind of the plane around and and internet, but if there's if you want to expound upon that anymore, I think that'd be helpful. You know, again, our kids did not have no one has a learning disability. No one had we had no special consideration. With our children and so that removed a lot of questions off the table for us. And then it became a question for us. Well, you know, we believe that if at all possible, we should opt in to the public school system because we believe that. I would say that as a Christian, whether you whatever choice you pursue with your own children, it's important to feel conviction. That education is a right that we are all entitled to, and so that even if your children are not participating in the public school system, you as an adult can find ways to participate in and improve the public school system for those families who do not have another option. And so for us, we were able to hold to public education as an ideal, not just by investing in it as members of our community, but by actually placing our children there with very little risk associated with that decision. And so we wanted to. So I don't think that they're, you know, I think one of the things this is probably come up in the other interviews as well. One of the misconceptions about education choices is that it's a decision you make when your child enters. Into kindergarten, and then you just stay the course forever. And though it may appear that we did that if there had ever been a compelling reason to reevaluate that decision, we certainly would have. We didn't happen to run into one. And some of that is because just of the makeup of our family, a lot of the things that people fear with regard to public school or things like bullying or a child being isolated, not making friends or making the wrong friends. And at least in the case of our family, our children were their own peer group in many regards because they were so close in age, and they shared a lot of friends, a lot of overlap in their friend groups, and a lot of policing of who people were being friends with kids, and then just like mindedness with their siblings, right? The people that have been the peers, they're spending the most time with where underneath their own roof. And so some of the factors that can make public school. But honestly, any classroom environment default were alleviated for us a little just because they had each other. Ingenio talked a little bit about you would reevaluate if you needed to. Can you speak to that mom, who does feel guilt or anxiety maybe of sending her child

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