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Northwest Newsradio
"jen white" Discussed on Northwest Newsradio
"Police officer. It just happened to be at the mall on a different call who heard the gunfire and went running toward it and took out the shooter. It's cliche Kim to say this could have been a lot worse, but it really could have been had that officer not been there. This shooter instead of just getting out of his car and firing into those right in front of him, he would have had a lot more freedom to go wherever he wanted to in that mall and a lot more people could have been dead, but it was that officer who heard the gunfire went running there and then killed the gunman. And you mentioned this shooter was removed from the military because of mental health concerns, but was there anything attached to that like a requirement for treatment in order against owning guns, anything. We don't know yet, and then they're working right now on trying to trace the guns. We know he had not only what was wearing a ballistic vest, numerous magazines, but he had additional handguns as well. Assuming that the guns being Texas were bought legally, but they don't know. Was there anything showing that he had this background? He may have actually been booted out of the army in basic training before he officially was even in the army. They are looking over his social media postings. It appears he had been posting on a Russian social media site, had no followers, apparently nobody was seeing this stuff, but racial and ethnic motivated violent extremist rhetoric. He had a patch on that's often associated with extremist groups, so they're trying to figure out, was he part of any of these? Was it all mental health? Did he have this ideology? What was it and he associated with anybody all of that? They don't yet know. ABC's Alex stone on the northwest news line. Your stock charts dot com money update on news radio 1000 FM 97 7. Stocks kept to a narrow range today ending the Monday session mixed. The S&P 500 and NASDAQ composite managed miniscule games, but the Dow Jones industrials eased 55 points. A busy week is underway on Wall Street with a slew of corporate earnings on the schedule, as well as more key inflation data of utmost interests, perhaps will be Wednesday morning's report on the consumer price index for April. Boeing is reportedly close to a major order from Dublin based Ryanair for about 150 of its largest 7 37 max aircraft, an important endorsement from a key customer that adds crucial sales momentum for the jet intended to counter Airbus popular a three two one neo. Citing people familiar with the matter, Bloomberg says a Ryanair deal for the Bloomberg 7 37 max ten jets could be announced as soon as tomorrow. That's your money now. I'm Jim chesko, northwest news radio. I know northwest woman now has bragging rights as she's witnessed two British coronations in her lifetime. Northwest news radio's Brian Calvert shares her story. Jen white was 19 years old when she went to England to visit a friend. She lived in Luton, which is 35 miles north
Recorded Future - Inside Threat Intelligence for Cyber Security
"jen white" Discussed on Recorded Future - Inside Threat Intelligence for Cyber Security
"I'm Jacob Goldstein. I used to host planet money. Now I'm starting a new show. It's called what's your problem? Every week on what's your problem? Entrepreneurs and engineers described the future they're going to build. Once they solve a few problems, I'm talking to people trying to figure out how to do things that no one on the planet knows how to do from creating a drone delivery business to building a car that can truly drive itself. Listen to what's your problem on Apple podcasts or wherever you like to listen. Following the news can sometimes feel in a word overwhelming. I'm David Ryan, host of the new CNN podcast one thing, and look, I totally get it. So every Sunday, we're going to slow things down a bit. Each week, I call up a CNN reporter who's been covering that big story everyone's been talking about, and we break it down together. Think calm, cool, and collected, not breathless breaking news. New episodes of CNN one thing drop each Sunday on Apple podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, or your favorite podcast app. We all enjoy a little mystery. Every other week, one strange thing presents forgotten stories from America's newspaper archives. They all have something in common, a single element that can't quite be explained. From cryptids and disappearances to modern day miracles, one strange thing brings you stories that are very real and just a little otherworldly. Subscribe now, wherever you listen. Hey, it's Dina. And you're listening to click here. Earlier this month I spoke with Jen white host of WAM news one a, about what we've learned about cyber warfare in the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Now, back to that conversation. Well, for your podcast, click here, you spoke with Victor Jorah. He's a Ukrainian official in charge of defending the country's computer networks and infrastructure. Let's take a listen. Ukraine with the most disruptive cyberattacks in the history over the last 30 years. I suppose we were well prepared for this cyber war. So our army tries to stop for the aggression on the land and our IT army is doing the same in a cyberspace. Now we hear Victor there mention in Ukrainian IT army and at long after the war began your team spoke with Yanni. He's a member of the IT army living in Finland and he talked about why and how he joined. Basically once I started hearing about civilians and children and women and elderly getting bombed or killed our starved is when I basically decided that I have to do something. What was the sign up process like? Or was there one? There wasn't any. That's one of the big problems here, actually. Basically anybody can join in and start doing whatever. Do you know what more did you learn about the Ukrainian IT army and how it's fighting back? There are essentially two Ukrainian IT armies, right? There's one that's connected to the military. And that's the sort of more traditional one. But what they did at the beginning of the war is they asked for volunteers, basically think of it as IT professionals, cybersecurity professionals around the world to come and help them. Yanni, he's one of the administrators of the IT army. And when he says there was no sign up, it was basically everybody sort of gets into a chat room and says, okay, what do we do? And one of the things that they were doing early on was DDoS attacks. These are basically attacks where you flood a network with so much traffic that it basically goes down. And they're super basic. But one of the problems with this was because there is no real coordination. It's just all these volunteers and across different time zones. Yanni was telling us that they have some of their higher level hackers. And they'd be hacking this and then all of a sudden it would be taken down by a DDoS attack by some of these sort of IT army folks who maybe weren't as skilled. So there's a term in cyber is called a script kiddies. And it basically means that you can't really code very well and you kind of fake it and use other people's code and pass it off as your own. So a lot of script kiddies joined the IT volunteer army as well as a lot of people really know what they're doing. People who are cybersecurity professionals. And the concern is that you're getting all these people who are getting new cyber skills because they're part of the Ukrainian IT army and almost like mercenaries who go and fight, you know, like when they fought in the Spanish Civil War. They go and fight. They've stopped. And then they have nothing to do. And so what are they doing instead? They find somewhere else to do this. And so what we're doing is we're kind of training a global contingent of hackers, people who might not be that good at hacking, get all these skills, and then when this is over, what are they going to do with that? Are we creating a whole generation of hacking mercenaries? That's my concern about the IT army. We're also hearing from you how we writes, no one should be surprised that cyberattacks are part of war strategy. This has been going on for at least 20 years, and now the capabilities are accessible to all countries, not just the global superpowers. It's not the first or the last time this will happen. Cobby, thanks for that message. Dean I'd love to hear your response to that. Yeah, I think that there's actually been a cyber component that we've been watching pretty intently since 2014 when the Russians first went into the Crimea and other areas of Ukraine. I think what's different is that we always saw cyber sort of an add on or something that you put on top and I don't think that's the case anymore. I think that they're really starting to be of a piece and that when you think about a strategy or a battle plan, you're no longer thinking about here's kinetic and then we'll put cyber on top, but you're thinking, how is cyber going to help them more conventional forces going forward? Well, at the council on foreign relations in Washington back in October, you spoke about the threat of Russian cyberattacks with gen easterly. She's the director of the U.S. cybersecurity and infrastructure security at agency. We are not at a place where we should be putting our shields down. The environment is very difficult. The Russians are very unpredictable. Their back is up against the wall. We've seen these horrific Connecticut attacks against civilian infrastructure. And we may be seeing a lot worse coming. What's the most concerning cyber activity we're seeing out of Russia right now, Dina? I think the wiper malware that we discussed before where it actually wipes hard drive and then starts destroying things in the network is one of the more concerning things we're seeing. But I think a lot of listeners may not realize that there's a lot of stuff going on on the fringes of the war, right? The Russians are in our networks, we think. And they're always probing to see how they can get into those networks. And by that, I mean infrastructure networks like power plants and water treatment, et cetera, et cetera. And by the way, the U.S. is in theirs too. And this is the way they're trying to keep equilibrium. But I think that the writer or color is right that that, in fact, cyber has been around for a really long time. But the way it's being utilized is really changing. What more can the U.S. do at this point to monitor Russian cyber threats? Internally or in Ukraine or both. I think there's an education now that is happening with the war in Ukraine that you understand that you need to be much more careful about everything you do. Everything is connected now. And now you can break into, for example, they talk a lot about supply chain. Well, it works also in cyber. You could break into a substation of an electrical power grid. And you break into that substation and that gives you access to the entire network. So everybody has to be careful. It's not just the big nafta gas company. It's not just PG&E. It has to be everybody who possibly has a connection to them. You know, the big hack that got everybody thinking about hacking was target. Years and years ago. You remember? Yeah. And the way that the hackers got into target and stole all those credit card numbers was by actually getting in through a supplier who did their air conditioning. So I think that what needs to be understood is that everybody is a weak link now because of the way things are connected. And so it's not somebody else's problem anymore. It's all of our
KPCC
"jen white" Discussed on KPCC
"Well, that that was an attempt to not unlike the federal litigation were talking about earlier sort of head this all off before the lawsuits actually get filed. The claim there by the by Planned Parenthood was that this particular group was well known proponent of the law. They were likely to bring a lawsuit under this statute and judge. The law is not constitutional. Please stop them from doing it before they ever get out the door, actually with the lawsuit. That was an initial ruling was made to grant that request. And then the court under our local or Texas rules was going to have another or more fulsome hearing with evidence. I think today, although I'm not sure if that remained on the calendar or not. What's interesting about those cases? Is there that case and potentially others like it there, litigating the threshold question of how hard it is to manage these providers, businesses. With all these potential lawsuits out there, the buzzword and love injunctions is irreparable injury. The claim in that case is we are suffering irreparable injury here today, looking at this risky landscape, so it's not really getting into the law itself quite so much as the Practical problems posed by the law today, and that's really a very relevant question will be very interesting to see what happens with that case. Well, Mary now that the Supreme Court has refused to block this bill, could we see other copycat legislation pop up across the country? Yet we could, and we may well initially, I think there were six or seven states that said they were at least considering or planning to pass this bill. We may have to take Florida off of that list because more recently, which was, I think the most high profile state to consider doing this. Governor, Rhonda Santos said that he was not particularly excited about this bill because he didn't in his language want to turn neighbors against one another. And so I think states or other conservative states are still considering this, but I think to some degree the kind of backlash Publicly not to the idea necessarily of the abortion ban piece of this alone, but to the kind of incentivizing people to report on one another. Maybe giving some, um some of these governors pause and I think the reason they had all jumped on the bandwagon before is because many of them are considering running for president in 2024. And we're kind of jockeying for position to be considered the most. You know, against abortion of any of the putative 2024 candidates Well last week, Justice Stephen Breyer told NPR's Nina Totenberg that the court's refusal to block the Texas law was quote very, very, very wrong and just his Amy Coney. Barrett defended the court on Sunday, saying the justices are not a quote bunch of partisan hacks. Barry, What do you make of the public comments we're seeing from justices around this decision. Well, I think in part what it shows you is that when it comes to abortion, the public is paying attention. The court, um has, I think faced more criticism lately, Um, in part for transacting a lot of business on the so called shadow docket, which is usually reserved for, um, not very exciting. Not very consequential emergency orders like whether someone can get extra time to file a brief or something like that. The court has increasingly been handling controversial and consequential matters on the shadow docket. Whether that involves, you know the border wall. Covid stay at home orders executions and that's been subject to backlash. And then on top of that, you have the fact that the court is doing something. Very significant with abortion months ahead of deciding the Supreme Court case that could overrule Roe v. Wade. So I think the justices are probably aware of the fact that there's more public scrutiny and more public anger than there usually is. And there, I think responding in different ways to that, ultimately in which is that maybe futile. I mean, I think If either Justice Breyer justice spirit, you know, say that the court should be treated as a political animal. If the public perceives them as such, we're going to continue to see some kind of outcry as we've seen so far. I'm Jen white. You're listening to one a We're talking to law Professor Mary Zickler. She's the author of Abortion and the Law in America, Roe v. Wade to the present and David Cole in a palette litigator based in Texas. We've seen antiabortion advocates chip away at abortion rights through state legislatures. Mary just remind us of the patchwork of abortion laws right now across the U. S. So there are lots of states that have more incremental restrictions on abortion. You can think of. For example, some of them are later gestational bands. So, um, 20 week bans are relatively common. They're waiting periods their mandates on when minors can get abortion, usually requiring some form of parental involvement. Their controversial laws involving what information you have to hear. Before you get abortion, some of which contain, um, for example, statements that medication abortions are reversible, which isn't really supported by any scientific data. Uh And so we've more recently seen in the landscape, a shift toward more absolute bands or bands earlier in pregnancy, often in the first trimester, and some of that shift has reflected The different people are on the Supreme Court. So anti abortion leaders believe that the Supreme Court will reverse Roe and they no longer feel compelled to pass legislation they think will survive in the court. They can more likely pursue legislation that they want, which tends to be More sweeping, not have exceptions for things like rape and incest. And the like. The other change has been, I think in the politics of abortion because you often see Republican lawmakers in these states passing policies that would not necessarily be popular even within state boundaries, some of them may. Some of them may not, but either way, I think it winds up looking like a winning strategy to Republicans who strategy often is to mobilize their base voters and get them out to the polls. Regardless of what the average American voter even within that state might think. And so, for all of those reasons, we've seen a shift toward laws more similar, if not, the sexist law we're talking about today is unique. But more similar in the sense that the laws are more stringent and seemed to be more out of line with polling and popular opinion than the ones we may have seen a decade ago. David When you think about the larger implications of SB eight for future laws that hinge on private civil actions, what's top of mind for you? Well, I have two reactions that are sort of at odds with each other one is it goose and gander. I mean, if the red States can do this sort of thing for policy agendas that are consistent with how they think things ought to be regulated. So can blue states. And I would not at all be surprised to see this applied in the gun control setting, and I think that would produce some interesting backlash and some interesting reckoning with the machinery of the statue and how it's really supposed to work. I question though, whether it's going to politically Proved to be that palatable. The thing you often hear in our political dialogue down here now is my goodness. The dog caught the car, right, The dogs always chasing the car, barking being a fuss and here it actually caught it, And the reaction is generally negative. People are in Texas, or there's a lot of embarrassment about the statute that this notion that we all are going to be spying on each other now is just not a positive thing. I think there's going to be. I don't know how big the backlash maybe about that, but there will be one politically. I think other states are probably watching that, as Mary was saying earlier to see if this is really politically viable. People are really comfortable using this mechanism and their own states. Now, Mary. We should mention the Supreme Court term starts up again next month, and it's set to rule on a case from Mississippi concerning a state law that bans most abortions. After 15 weeks. Tell us about that case. So that case involves a variation on the 20 Week bills I mentioned before. So all of those states claim that fetal pain is possible at that point in pregnancy, which is not a conclusion supported by most scientific research, but it's supported by some studies. Mississippi takes it a step further and says 15 weeks which to my knowledge is not supported by many or any studies..
KPCC
"jen white" Discussed on KPCC
"Six week time limit would apply if you were creating, um, an embryo and then implanting it, But there's nothing exempting those procedures. And so it would really just depend on when the state deems the clock to start running. Um, and whether those procedures would be Kentwood count us after Six weeks or not, because of course, those those are not. Uh, those are in vitro rather than in Vivo as we would call, uh, lots of other reproduction procedures. You know, David, we're getting quite a few questions about the limits of quote private civil actions to enforce this law. First off what's the precedent for law being upheld by citizens? Well, the general concept behind the law is not that controversial. The notion of a private attorney general who has the power to enforce certain standards, along with a public authority, or clean air Act or clean water act, the antitrust laws so on so forth, the United States can enforce those laws and private people can enforce them as well. The difference here is in all those examples. The private actor has a personal state. They've been damaged in some way by the unclean air of the unclean water at the anticompetitive activity, and that empowers them under the law to go seek a remedy and enforce those laws here. The unique feature is you have these people who have not had any injury. They have no personal connection to the abortion to the people involved in it to the provider to any of it. Yet they may go to court to obtain relief and be financially rewarded for that. That's what takes a fairly well recognized concept and turns it into something new and very unusual. Lori asks this. What's the standard of proof for a successful lawsuit? David? I don't know if we have the answer to that. But do you have any early thoughts? Well, I'm not sure it's detailed specifically, but I would assume it to be preponderance of the evidence as in any other civil case, there's some affirmative defenses in the statute as well. And that's that. That is the kind of language you associate with. Preponderance of the evidence. Hey, you just explain what that means. Affirmative defenses, Of course. So preponderance of the evidence means you prove it by 51% of the credible evidence that the weight, however slight tips in your favor. An affirmative defense is something that goes back the other way by the defendant that if they have the burden on it, they overcome the plaintiff's case. Those are terms in civil law, and this is a civil statute. Criminal law would use a standard of beyond a reasonable doubt of some civil proceedings. Use clear and convincing evidence. Those are higher than 51%. Those concepts are in here, so I think the more general civil standard would control We got this email from Christine, Who says I haven't heard anyone talk about countersuits. If an abortion provider is sued for $10,000 by a private citizen, can the doctor turned around and countersued that individual for defamation of character or loss of livelihood? How about if there was no abortion performed, and the private citizen brought a wrongful suit? David your thoughts. Well as to a frivolous lawsuit that just has no foundation. In fact, the statute does not report to change our basic rules about that. You can't just go to court and make things up. As to the ability to countersue, though the statute does limit your ability to come back with a number of standard claims and defences and, as was mentioned earlier, it includes some unusual provisions and some one sided provisions about the shifting of attorneys fees. So you may have a claim that you come back with, but you might not be entitled to recover your attorney's fees on that claim. Whereas the successful party in one of these claims these abortion cases would be able to recover their fees, and your potential counterclaim would just be overwhelmed by that provisions of the statute. So it's a theoretical possibility. But the statute anticipates claims back from by the defendant and tries to protect the plaintiff against those claims. So I just want to make sure we understand the person who is starting the process. You says Okay, I'm going to Sue this provider because I believe they performed an abortion. It's proven in court that that actually didn't happen. The provider Can countersue but the amount of damages they'd be able to get back our limited Yes, there are some, uh it is unlikely they could recover their attorney's fees in the event of a successful defense of the case or a successful success, Successful counterclaim and the statute. Also, by the way, it defines the cause of action, sort of forecloses some possible claims that you could bring back in a different kind of civil case. It's possible. But the playing field has been deliberately structured to favor the person bringing the case and not favor the provider or other defendant. So in this case, the provider would likely not be able to recover their attorney's fees their legal fees would they be able to sue for punitive damages? I doubt it. They would have to have a cause of action legal claim that allowed them to do that defamation was mentioned. That's possible. But that would ordinarily only be brought after the claim had been litigated all the way to an end, and it was clear that just a bunch of lives were being told in the case. If that's true, someone just made up a bunch of stuff have at it. You've got a defamation claim. But if they're able to prove their their claim by 51% of the evidence that claim is not going to have legs and they're not going to be able to get actual or punitive damages. I'm Jen white. You're listening to one a We're talking to David Cole in a palette litigator in Texas and law Professor Mary Ziegler. She's the author of Abortion in the Law in America, Roe v. Wade to the present. What if you had this question? Where does the $10,000 or more come from Mary? Well as many as is often the case with civil suits the person the defendant, so the person being sued would provide the damages so it's not the state of Texas or taxpayers. It's the person who is the alleged wrongdoers. So the person who is deemed to have either performed this abortion or aided or embedded this abortion in practice, you know that won't always be collected because Texas purports to enforce this mechanism against people who are not necessarily even in the state of Texas. So I could imagine some lawsuits proceeding against people outside of state lines and then therefore never being connected collected. But the idea is that if you perform an abortion or help someone get an abortion you yourself have to pay. And so far the effect of that has been that most abortion or all abortion providers have said they're going to comply with the law because they view Any other alternative is being you know, ruinously expensive because they would be paying at least $10,000 over and over again in the civil suits, So I want to make sure I understand correctly that the Texas law Uh, has provisions for someone in Texas suing someone in Let's say, Michigan for providing aid and accessing an abortion. Yes. So there's no there's no sort of territorial limit on who can sue or be sued. Obviously, the relevant abortion has to take place in Texas. And so if you're performing, you know, a surgical abortion in Michigan, it doesn't seem that you'll be covered by the law. But if, for example, someone from Michigan donates money to an abortion fund in Texas and that abortion fund then is deemed to have aided or abetted whatever that means within the meaning of the statute. Then, in theory, that person in Michigan could be sued. Now in practice, it would be very hard to enforce that judgment, because probably what would happen would be the person in Michigan wouldn't show up in court. There would be a default judgment entered against that person, which is what happens when you don't show up. And then there would be no way. Texas isn't going to send Texas marshals up to Michigan to enforce that, so there would be Probably no way it would get enforced unless someone later had to go to Texas for some reason, But there isn't really a limit. This isn't just a Texas story. This law purports to reach people. Affecting abortion in Texas from you know, anywhere..
KQED Radio
"jen white" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Represent peace. They represent evil in war. Assad 10 years after President Bush's speech you were still being targeted by the NYPD. What does it say to you that there was so much distance between some Not all but some of the political rhetoric of the time? And the actual policies that went into effect. Um, I think a lot of the rhetoric you know, like in in this little extra if you played by President Bush in many ways, um, serves almost as A cover up for the policies, right? You can have politicians who say nice things, right? Um, you know, set aside the academic debate on whether you know Islam is a religion of peace survived that That's Relevant. But politicians can make these comments. Um and almost as a way, excuse themselves and use them as an excuse to, uh, to sort of recuse themselves right. Bush launched two wars. That devastated the lives of millions of people. Um, almost entirely Muslim, Um And so you know, just to just to to to say that, you know. Um This is To to to distance Muslims from this while also targeting them. I think it's it's a way of making excuses for for oneself, and, um I think policies speak louder than words. Here's a question we got from S O. Who says, Ask about African American Muslims and intersectional bias against them from all front people. What can you tell us about that? Yeah, absolutely. I do the long history of anti Muslim racism them in the U. S from the foundation of the US nation. Actually, even before that, the colonial period Up to the present, and I think the experience of black Muslims is a very important part of the story, and I really thank the listener for raising it. But I think the first thing to be said is that the first significant presence of Muslims in the United States were west African Muslim. So what enslaved and brought here To work on plantations, but interestingly because they were highly educated, the scholarship shows that they were not treated as badly. As non Muslim. It's Saved people. The targeting of black Muslims really begins in earnest in the 20th century. This is when in the 19 thirties, J. Edgar Hoover would go after the Morrish Science Temple of America. This was a group of people who had a form of practice of Islam that was transnational. That was anti white supremacy that was internationalist and anti beauty list. And for the FBI that was just too much of a threat. So they start a program of intensive surveillance in the 19 thirties. They even bring lawsuits, uh, against people off the more Science temple as a way to give an example Don't you dare oppose white supremacy. This is what will happen And these programs actually continue and will be used against the nation of Islam against Malcolm X, and they continue even today. So that has absolutely been a parallel story. And so when we talk about, you know the state targeting Muslims We shouldn't just focus on Arabs and Iranians and South Asians. But we have to bring in this conversation about what black Muslims have faced. I'm Jen white. You're listening to one a We're talking to Professor Deepak Kumar, organizer Assad, Donya and Rozina Ali of the New York Times Magazine. I want to Talk a bit about what? What we're seeing now, Rosina Muslim Americans have become visible in certain ways that they weren't before. Lawmakers like Ellen Omar and Rashida to leave being the first Muslim women to serve in Congress, Mahershala Ali being the first Muslim person to to win an Oscar. How much does that visibility matter? I think it matters a lot. I think there is definitely especially for the long term. To normalize Muslims in these industries and leadership roles is critical. I and I do think that you know, there have been a lot of groups and lawsuits like assets that have challenged the government's policies. But I I do want to emphasize that it is. While it's great that we have Muslims in office and media and cultural institutions we must and we might even have the second Muslim federal judge soon. Much of the infrastructure that was put in place after 9 11 and sometimes even before 9 11. That still continues. There is still very little transparency about how the FBI uses informants and when there is still a you use of broad material support charges to arrest and put away people, even if they haven't committed an actual crime. And, um, you know, when the When the Supreme Court upheld Trump's travel ban, it justified the decision by citing um, policies that Obama and Bush administration had put forward and Basically saying that national security is the purview of the president. All of these things have yet to be challenged and You know, I hope in the next 10 years that we really see a scaling back of the war on terror framework that we put in place after 9 11. We just have about a minute left here, But I'd love to hear from each of you What you see on the path ahead. We're doing a lot of reflecting on the last 20 years, but To your mind. What's next, Assad? Um I'm hopeful. Um, I'm seeing I'm seeing a lot of reflection. And I'm seeing a lot of Um, you know, reckoning. Uh, Sadly, that reckoning is not coming from the institutions of power and I'm not going to depend on institutions of power. Um, you know, to take us forward in a positive and constructive direction, but I am hopeful. Um, that everyday people. Um, can bear witness to to everything that we've endured. Um, you know, as Muslims as South Asians as Arabs, um as Americans as people who are impacted And that they can learn from it. So I want to and you know my message on a hopeful note, And to say that you know, hope is a discipline. It's something that you consciously cultivate, and it's something that you work towards. And I'm grateful to be in community with so many people who are doing precisely that people..
KQED Radio
"jen white" Discussed on KQED Radio
"But my sources tell me that it's still continues may not be as extensive as it used to be. But under the radar. Such practices are continuing in terms of targeting Muslim students and Muslims in various communities, but also dissenters, you know, um white activists, Brown activists. Uh and so forth, Rosina. What? What did this type of surveillance mean for for families and communities. Yeah. I mean, I think one thing it really did was, um, create a, uh, create an atmosphere of fear. And, um, there were so many people. I have spoken to an interview that told me that they We're afraid of going to the mosque of speaking politically. Um Even now, people are afraid of voicing their political opinions, and I think it's you know, it's hard to overstate just how pervasive the surveillance was. You know vapor was mentioning the use of informants. The FBI's staple up informants grew to 15,000. And these weren't just FBI agents. These were civilians who had incentive. Two. To supposedly find terrorists for the government, and they used They used money They used, um personal connections. They created relationships with their targets as a result. Men ended up in prison for decades without ever having committed an actual crime of violence, violence, and I think that's astonishing. And I, um Wrote a piece in April about one man who had low I Q. Who, um, was targeted by the NYPD informant for a year and a half almost two years. He ended up In prison for 30 years because of something, he said. He never actually committed an act of violence, and when I speak to him now, he's just afraid to voice any political opinion, as is his family. And that's stifling, and that's chilling for a country that prides itself in its First Amendment rights. I'm Jen white. You're listening to one a We're talking to Rozina Ali of the New York Times Magazine professor Deepak Kumar and organizer Assad Dandy, Jack. We also want to hear from you. Did you experience anti Muslim discrimination? After 9 11? You can comment on our Facebook page tweet us at one A. Or citizen email at one a at wfmu dot org. Here's another message we got from one of you. My name is Jeanette In the days after 9 11. I was part of a group in New Jersey that responded to detainees. Seen rounded up and packed into county jail, held under horrible conditions throughout New Jersey. We thought it would be a short term project, but it turned out said Our group lasted for year. 15 with letter writing legal cases hunger strike The group was mostly Jewish fighting for Muslim detainees have basic constitutional rights. It was a moment historic moment where our basic rights as citizens in this country or under attack, and we have never recovered from it. We have never come to terms with what we did. And the impact that it has had on the world. Jeannette. Thanks for sharing that message with us. Here's a tweet. We got from eradicate racism. They say what you say that the statistics are at an all time high, referring there to hate crime statistics or that government agencies and other researchers are only now actively documenting and aggregating these not new at all hate crime numbers and depot. We should mention here there was a spike in hate crimes against Muslims following 9 11, but notably, there was also a spike. Following the 2016 election of Donald Trump. But experts tell us that hate crime statistics statistics can only capture what is reported and that some crimes never are accounted for. So what factors make it difficult to really track hate crimes? Right before I speak to hate crimes. I just want to reinforce what Rosina said earlier. Which is that the FBI entrapment program the use of its 15,000 agents. Typically, they would go after vulnerable people. Vulnerable men. Um, in the new work for kids that I mentioned, one of the four actually discovered that his brother had just been Diagnosed with liver cancer. He desperately needed money to save his life. And the informant actually promised him money and so much more and typically the profile of the people that have been entrapped also. Are those with mental disabilities, right? And that's how this keeps going. There are billions of dollars in funding because these terrorists are produced quite literally. This is how errands and good set by the FBI Now in terms of hate crimes and microaggressions and so on. Well, very often. People don't report these incidents because they don't know if the authorities that they are coming forward to, you know, share what they've experienced. Well, first of all, actually take them seriously. And secondly, if they give their names, they might become people against whom information is gathered. So there's been a fraying of trust between Muslim communities and law enforcement agencies because even you know, with President Obama's counter radicalization program of 20 eleventy C V E program where they went out into Muslim communities and recruited in Mom's recruited school teachers and so on to provide information that might help in counterterrorism. What people discovered is that even when they tried to help in this way, they themselves were seen as suspect, and they themselves were being targeted and surveilled and so forth. So if you put that into the context of heat crimes, and you know whether these hate crimes are my students tell me things like you know, people will through a smoothie at them or they will throw, you know. Something else at them. This is not body be harmed in the sense that you can't get over it. But folks like my students feel like I have no one to report this to because First of all, it's going to be laughed off. And second. I don't want to become part of any registry. We're reflecting on the experience of Muslims in America after 9 11 with us today, Rozina Ali of the New York Times Magazine professor Deepak Kumar and organizer Assad, donde We'll be back with more in a moment. You can share your thoughts at one A on Twitter. You can email us at.
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"Knight Foundation, helping NPR advanced journalistic excellence in the digital age. I'm Jen white. This is one a Let's get back to our conversation about California's historic recall election and let's bring in a new voice. Dana Bash is co anchor of State of the union with Jake Tapper and chief political correspondent at CNN. She's also host of the new Total Recall Podcast, which comes out today It explores the stranger than fiction 2000 and three California recall election. Dana. Welcome to the program. Thanks for having me So there is this one other time? California recalled their governor That was in 2003. Democrat Gray Davis was governor at the time. What happened? Oh, boy, I think the bigger question is what didn't happen. It was so wild. It was so wild and you know, I am old enough to remember it happening real time, but it's almost a decade ago. So I don't know about you, but for me, I married my memory fades quickly. It's like cramming for your test when you're covering events, and then you kind of forget about it. So going back and really not just Recalling it so to speak, but talking to the players. From Gray Davis to Arnold Schwarzenegger to Ted cost A who is certainly not a household name, but he was the guy who got the money and the Mo Jo to get the recall even happening. He is a conservative activists. And you know, sort of so many characters in between, including the adult film star. I talked to her. She ran back then, and she ran briefly in 2021 so The gist of what happened then is that there was a very big energy crisis in California. There were rolling blackouts, so it affected Almost everybody in the state personally because their lights were out and combine that with the recession. That was going on, which really was felt deeply in California because the dot com bubble had just burst a couple years before that. And then The car tax. So Gray Davis, who was the governor thought? Well, I'm going to raise funds for all of my democratic priorities, and he had a lot of them. Bye. Putting the car tax, um, increasing it. And in California it's the ultimate car culture. People love their cars. People need their cars and then suddenly they were taxed in an additional way. And all of that was kind of the perfect storm and Gray Davis learned very quickly. Some of that was his fault. Some of that was out of his control. But it didn't matter because the guy in charge always gets the blame. And so there was a lot of anger back then, and It was all over for him when Arnold Schwarzenegger jumped in because he was the biggest movie star on the planet back then, and he knew how to Run a campaign and campaign the way he knew how to promote action movies. Well, you mentioned the former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and you spoke to him. As you said for the podcast. Let's take a listen. There's millions of people out there that are dissatisfied. Dissatisfied. Maybe the way the Corona was handled this satisfied the fires dissatisfied with the blackouts you're saying dangerous for Gavin Newsom. Very dangerous? Yes, Absolutely. It's very dangerous for him because you got to take this stuff seriously for too long, too. Didn't take it seriously. But now I think they do take it seriously. So it sounds like the former governor believes the current governor is in trouble. What did you take away from this conversation with sports? Neko. Well, you know, it's interesting. He's friends with Avenue some Democrat Republican he's friends with, he says. A lot of the or at least knows a lot of the people who are on the other side of the ballot who want to take Newsom's job, So he's Very aggressively, not endorsing any of the candidates. But he is very clear as you heard about the atmospherics. And the thing that he thinks is so dangerous for Gavin Newsom. Is that the atmospherics on very different issues today. Number one is covid and all the ramifications from covid businesses closing and jobs lost and the school issues in the past year and a half. All of that, combined with a very real homeless problem. Housing prices are out of control all over California. It makes people really angry and it's again. Those are issues. Many of those are very personal. You know, there are times when there's A political movement where it's whether it's you know, health care or it was about obamacare or about spending. Let's say, let's just let's pick spending runaway runaway government spending. That's a very real issue for people, but they don't feel it necessarily in a personal way, like they felt covid or like they felt blackouts in 2003, and that's the point that he was trying to make well now. Former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger was the last time California had a Republican governor. How was he able to get the vote beyond being You know, absurdly famous. By not really allow allowing people to pin him down on Lot of the specific issues, particularly those today that are kind of requirements for Republicans, especially in Republican primaries. I mean, that was a big deal that because it was a recall, he was a Republican who didn't need to go through the Republican primary process. He didn't need to be vetted by conservatives to make sure he was conservative enough like you see in normal elections. At any level across across the country now, so that was big. And the fact is that he was and still is more moderate on things like the climate more moderate on social issues and then your average Republican, and that helped at the time in California, which was already quite blue. But nowhere near as blue as it is now. I mean, at this point, the registration differential between Democrats or Republican is 2 to 1. Then now, I guess the best way to put it is Republicans have about 25% of the voter registration in California. Then it was about low thirties. So which dropped a lot since then. We also talked to Gray Davis, the governor who was recalled back in 2003. What were his thoughts looking back on that time? It's so interesting because he owns it. He owns it, he says. Just just the way it is Number one. If you don't want to have a threat of being recalled, don't run. For any office in California because that's just the way California politics is. It was the whole notion of a recall was put into place through proposition. How else in California? About 100 years ago by a governor then named Hiram Johnson, and the threat was always there. He was the first person to actually be recalled from the governor's mansion. So he says he didn't take it seriously. At the beginning, he said, Look, Ronald Reagan when he was governor, there were threats four or five times That of him being recalled didn't happen. I don't really think it was going to happen. And time does heal wounds. His wound is pretty healed and he is very Zen, almost about the fact that he did what he could, and so much was out of his control. Well after researching the recall election in 2003 and looking at the recall election that's currently underway. What dots? Are you connecting beyond atmospherics? Mm. It's such a good question the whole state of our politics right now, and the idea that people back then this is a little bit of atmosphere, but I'll but I'll connected to the to the leadership in a second people back then. We're looking for something different. They Were looking for change. And what happened with the The push for the recall was that those Those characters, so to speak those individuals, they were kind of the precursors to the tea party. And so and then the tea party was a precursor to trumpism. And Trumpism is here to stay right now in the GOP. And although Larry Elder who is currently the according to polls, the front runner among the 40 Plus candidates who want to take Gavin Newsom's job today says he's not Trump in Um He is supported by a lot of trump individuals by a lot of Trump supporters because they see him. In in a similar way that he's a talk radio host. He's never held public office before. He is a good communicator. Things like that. So there lies the similarity. I will say the differences are also huge when it comes to Gavin Newsom versus Gray Davis. Not the least of which is that Gray Davis at this point Had polls..
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"And from the John S and James L. Knight Foundation, helping NPR advanced journalistic excellence in the digital age. I'm Jen white. This is one a Next week, Californians are heading to the polls for the state's second gubernatorial recall election here Talking us through it is Libby Denk Hman senior reporter covering politics at member Station KPCC in Los Angeles, California. And David A. Korea, executive director of the California Constitution Center at University of California, Berkeley. School of Law, Maybe what national implications could this current recall election half? I think when you look at California it's the fifth largest economy. We always like to remind folks. This is really a huge state, the most populous in the nation and one where Democrats have such solid control and have really been pushing more progressive policies. It's a, um you know relatively higher taxes on especially wealthy folks in California. Um, you know, big spending on things like Governor Newsom started payments for low income Californians in his latest budget, so folks are getting checks from the state of California, and he's really pushed climate change efforts he wants to phase out. A gas powered vehicles by 2035 in California. These are all sort of things that Democrats nationwide look to as being on the forefront of where the rest of the country may be going, if they are able to push democratic policies, And if you see a Republican kind of swooping in and able to upset and and remove a Democratic governor in his first term before he's even finished his first Four years in office. I think that that could be a big blow to the Democratic experiment in California. There is an election coming up just, you know, next November, and so certainly in a general election, Democrats would have no trouble getting back the governorship. But it would certainly, you know, kind of put a question mark on how people feel about the democratic policies and and the progressive moves that have been happening in California. David. There are two questions. As Libby said at the top of the ballot. One Do. Voters want to recall Newsom and two who do they want to replace him? But there also seems to be confusion over the ballot for some, what's going on there? Part of it has to do with political messaging. Um, the Democratic party seems to be taking a pretty clear strategy on focusing voter attention on just the first question. Part of that, I suspect is a deserter. Avoid the strategy and the Gray Davis recall in 2000 and three, which I think folks afterwards were fairly critical of and felt like I mean, obviously great if it's lost, so the overall strategy once unsuccessful, But one of the arguments there is that Part of that unsuccessful strategy was giving voters a second option in Cruz Bustamante. Um, so I suspect the current strategy thinking now is to focus voter attention solely on keeping Governor Newsom and, um Not focusing attention on any other scenario, Little on the second scenario like a replacement. Well, let me let's talk about who's on the ballot. We mentioned a couple of people at the top, but who are the leading candidates right now? So the leading candidates are an interesting bunch. I mentioned that there are some elected officials and folks with elected experience but really the top polling people on the challenging side. Are folks who have not run for office before on the Democratic ticket is the um youtuber. FINANCIAL advice COLUMN. I guess columnist is one way to say it. He's he gives financial advice on YouTube. Kevin Path Wrath. He's a Democrat. But the Democratic Party is not supporting his run because, like we discussed, the Democratic Party didn't want any mainstream candidate to be an option of possible spoiler for Newsom on the second question of the ballot, and then by far the front runner has been Larry Elder, the conservative talk show host who has been a flamethrower on the air in Los Angeles for 27 years. He calls himself the sage from South Central And he's been able to gain in polls about a quarter to a third of support from people who are voting on the second question of the ballot. You know people who have been pulled so far. This is somebody who holds very conservative beliefs compared with the General California electorate, somebody who thinks the minimum wage should be zero. He wants to overturn Covid 19 vaccine mandates in public schools and public employees. He's really declared war on the teachers unions in California and promised to fire the quote worst teachers. The question, of course, is how much power he would actually have, if if you were elected with state where Democrats control so much of the Legislature We got this email from Danielle, who says, in part as a native Californian who has since moved away. I can say it's not as easy to paint the state with this brush of only being a progressive leader. California Democrats would be more willing to work with their Republican counterparts. I think a more equitable and balanced approach could be implemented. Libby any response to that email. I think that you know, the Democratic leaders in the Legislature would say We have policy goals that we think are right for our constituents. And you know, we don't have to work with Republicans. When you know they don't want to push forward. You know items that that they're not supportive of. I mean, Governor. Newsom recently expanded, uh, medical coverage, for example, to people in the country without legal status who are over 50. And these are things that you know most Republicans. Increasing benefits for folks who are in the country without legal status would not support But Democrats believe this is the right thing to do, and they have control of that body. And so If you did see a Republican coming in and becoming governor that individual would have line item veto power, which could be overrun overturned by the Legislature if they stayed together in solidarity and and use their two thirds powers to overturn vetoes, But that would require a level of unity between Progressives and moderates in the Legislature that perhaps could create more of a bargaining situation with Republicans that remains to be seen. We just haven't had a split in control in Sacramento and so long That there hasn't really had to be that that type of bargaining and and so we'd have to see it in action. We're talking about the California recall election with Libby Denk Men senior reporter covering politics at KPCC, also with us. David A. Corio, executive director of the California Constitution Center at University of California, Berkeley. School of Law. We also want to hear from you What questions do you have about next week's recall election in the Golden State? You can comment on her Facebook page tweet us at one a. Or send us an email at one A at W am you dot org David There were some constitutional questions surrounding this recall election lathe arguments for us Well, I have to preface it by saying that I don't agree with them. I assume that you're referring to The New York Times Opinion editorial by uh but my boss Dean Erwin Chemerinsky, Um, and he followed up with another article after some other legal scholars challenged his position. Um briefly, Dean Chemerinsky felt that the replacement candidate procedure in California was unconstitutional. He felt that it had equal protection problems specifically to violated. The one person one vote principle because it permits a replacement governor to take office after the incumbent is disqualified from running to replace him or herself and then a A plurality winner can can take the office as a replacement candidate. Um I'm in the camp with a number of other legal scholars who think that that That that argument does not have merit. I specifically, uh, think that, uh, the California Supreme Court considered and rejected this argument in the 2003 recall against Gray Davis. So I did not think it was worth making this time. Um and then within about a week after lawsuit being filed based on his theory, Uh, this month, Federal judge struck it down. So So there is this argument. It's been around for a while. I think the courts have pretty consistently come out against it. And there's the additional point that, uh, you know, making constitutional arguments like this to take the recall off the ballot just a few weeks before it's about to happen. Courts are unlikely to look favorably on that. Let me We've got this email from Allen, who asks How much does a recall election cost California? Oh, Alan, it is pricey. In California..
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"Knight Foundation, helping NPR advanced journalistic excellence in the digital age. I'm Jen white. This is one a Let's get back to our conversation about California's historic recall election and let's bring in a new voice. Dana Bash is co anchor of State of the union with Jake Tapper and chief political correspondent at CNN. She's also host of the new Total Recall Podcast, which comes out today It explores the stranger than fiction 2000 and three California recall election. Donna, Welcome to the program. Thanks for having me So there is this one other time? California recalled their governor That was in 2003. Democrat Gray Davis was governor at the time. What happened? Oh, boy, I think the bigger question is what didn't happen. It was so wild. It was so wild and you know, I am old enough to remember it happening real time, But it's almost a decade ago. So I don't know about you. But for me, I'm old enough. Yeah, my memory fades quickly. It's like cramming for your test when you're covering events, and then you kind of forget about it so going back and really not just Gonna recalling it so to speak. But talking to the players, from Gray Davis to Arnold Schwarzenegger to Ted cost a who is certainly not a household name, but he was the guy who got the money and the mojo to get the recall even happening. He is a conservative activists. And you know, sort of so many characters in between, including the adult film star. I talked to her. She ran back then, and she ran briefly in 2021 so The gist of what happened then is that there was a very big energy crisis in California. There were rolling blackouts, so it affected Almost everybody in the state personally because their lights were out and combine that with a recession. That was going on, which really was felt deeply in California because the dot com bubble had just burst. Uh, a couple years before that. And then The car tax. So Gray Davis, who was the governor thought? Well, I'm going to raise funds for all of my democratic priorities, and he had a lot of them. Bye. Putting the car tax, um, increasing it. And in California it's the ultimate car culture. People love their cars. People need their cars and then suddenly they were taxed in an additional way. And all of that was kind of the perfect storm and Gray Davis learned very quickly. Some of that was his fault. Some of that was out of his control. But it didn't matter because the guy in charge always gets the blame. And so there was a lot of anger back then, and It was all over for him when Arnold Schwarzenegger jumped in because he was the biggest movie star on the planet back then, and he knew how to run a campaign and campaign the way he knew how to promote action movies. Well, you mention the former governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and you spoke to him. As you said for the podcast. Let's take a listen. There's millions of people out there that are dissatisfied. Despite this five, maybe the way the Corona was handled this satisfied the fires dissatisfied with the blackouts you're saying dangerous for Gavin Newsom? Very dangerous? Yes, absolutely. It's very dangerous for him because you've got to take this stuff seriously for too long. That didn't take it seriously. But now I think they do take it seriously. So it sounds like the former governor believes the current governor is in trouble. What did you take away from this conversation with Schwarzenegger? Well, you know, it's interesting. He's friends with Avenue some Democrat Republican he's friends with, he says. A lot of the or at least knows a lot of the people who are on the other side of the ballot who want to take Newsom's job, so he's Very aggressively, not endorsing any of the candidates. But he is very clear as you heard about the atmospherics. And the thing that he thinks is so dangerous for Gavin Newsom. Is that the atmospherics on very different issues today. Number one is covid and all the ramifications from covid businesses closing and jobs lost and the school issues in the past year and a half. All of that, combined with a very real homeless problem. Housing prices are out of control all over California. It makes people really angry and it's again. Those are issues. Many of those are very personal. You know, there are times when there's a political movement where it's whether it's you know. Health care or little that was about obamacare or about spending. Let's say, let's just let's pick spending runaway runaway government spending. That's a very real issue for people, but they don't feel it necessarily in a personal way, like they felt covid or like they felt blackouts in 2003, and that's the point that he was trying to make. Well now former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger was the last time California had a Republican governor. How was he able to get the vote beyond being, you know, absurdly famous? By not really allow allowing people to pin him down on Lot of the specific issues, particularly those today that are kind of requirements for Republicans, especially in Republican primaries. I mean, that was a big deal that because it was a recall, he was a Republican who didn't need to go through the Republican primary process. He didn't need to be vetted by conservatives to make sure he was conservative enough like you see in normal elections. At any level across across the country now, so that was big. And the fact is that he was and still is more moderate on things like the climate more moderate on social issues and then your average Republican, and that helps at the time in California, which was already quite blue. But nowhere near as blue as it is now. I mean, at this point, the registration differential between Democrats or Republican is 2 to 1. Then now, I guess the best way to put it is Republicans have about 25% of the voter registration in California. Then it was about low thirties, so it's dropped a lot since then. We also talked to Gray Davis, the governor who was recalled back in 2000 and three What were his thoughts looking back on that time? It's so interesting because he he owns it. He owns it, he says. Just just the way it is Number one. If you don't want to have a threat of being recalled, don't run. For any office in California because that's just the way California politics is. It was the whole notion of a recall was put into place through proposition. How else in California about 100 years ago by a governor then named Hiram Johnson, and the threat was always there. He was the first person to actually be recalled from the governor's mansion. So he says he didn't take it seriously. At the beginning, he said, Look Ronald Reagan When he was governor. There were threats four or five times that of him being recalled and didn't happen. I really think it was going to happen. And time does heal wounds. His wound is pretty healed and he is very Zen, almost about the fact that he did what he could, and so much was out of his control. Well after researching the recall election in 2003 and and looking at the recall election that's currently underway. What dots? Are you connecting beyond atmospherics? It's such a good question the whole state of our politics right now, and the idea that people back then this is a little bit of atmospheric, but I'll but I'll connected to the to the leadership in a second people back then. We're looking for something different. They Were looking for change. And what happened with the, um The push for the recall was that those Uh, those characters so to speak those individuals, they were kind of the precursors to the tea party. And so and then the tea party was a precursor to trumpism. And Trumpism is here to stay right now in the GOP. And although Larry Elder who is currently the according to polls, the front runner among the 40 plus Candidates who want to take Gavin Newsom's job today says he's not trump in, um He is supported by a lot of trump individuals by a lot of Trump supporters because they see him. In in a similar way that he's a talk radio host. He's never held public office before. He is a good communicator. Things like that. So there lies the similarity. I will say the differences are also huge when it comes to Gavin Newsom versus Gray Davis. Not the least of which is that Gray Davis at this point Had polls..
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"Knight Foundation, helping NPR advanced journalistic excellence in the digital age. I'm Jen white. This is one A. We're discussing weddings during the pandemic in the future of the wedding industry with Eric Apandi. She's a business reporter for Axios. Also with us is Dr Rachel Lee. She is an infectious disease specialist and healthcare epidemiologist at the University of Alabama Birmingham and Jacqueline Watson. She's a certified wedding planner in Vermont. New York and Florida. She's also the founder of Jacqueline Watson Events. Now one of our own producers at one A is getting married very soon, and here's what she had to say about planning a wedding during the pandemic. This is Page in D. C. I've been planning my wedding since early last year. Um, and it's actually happening later this month. It's been really, really difficult. Um I would say wedding planning was already hard and Covid has made it It's like building a very large, complicated house on sands that are constantly shifting in some ways Last year was even easier than this year because last year there were very clear restrictions. And you sort of had the vaccines as like this milestone to aim for, whereas this year it's really just hard to know what's safe. Um, we've taken every precaution we can think of. We've made vaccines mandatory. We've Put the whole thing outside, including dancing. It's just really, really hard to know what to do. And at this point if we canceled or rescheduled, we would just be out. Thousands and thousands of dollars. Page. Thanks for leaving us that message. We'll hear more from her. Later in the conversation at Dr Lee Page mentioned that the lack of clear restrictions this year has made it harder to evaluate what's safe. And what's not. How can couples who feel like they're not really getting the guidance they need? Either from the CDC or from their state make the best decision for themselves and their families. That's a great question. I like to think of how to protect ourselves in like a law of two thirds. So there are three things that really help us. With the exception of vaccination, that's easy enough to say that's very important. But apart from vaccination, you can think about physical distancing masking an outdoor space. And so if you have two of the three that are really well built in You can generally say that you are doing your best to reduce the risk of infections around one another. Now, if you add on vaccination if someone who is vaccinated wears a mask when they're around others Generally, the risk is very low of spreading any sort of infection. And so I think, as couples are thinking through this in terms of the space that they have in the number of people that are there This may be helpful for wedding planners like Jacqueline to help kind of mitigate some of those concerns so that they can reduce the you know feelings of stress. That may be a bride to be may have. And how has what we've learned about breakthrough in cases among the vaccinated Change the way we should think about the risk of weddings and other in person events. Unfortunately, with this Delta variant breakthrough cases do happen, although what I will say is that If you are not immuno compromised in any sort of way. Generally speaking, people who have had these mild breakthrough of these breakthrough cases are mild to moderate. So you may feel like you have the flu, but You're not hospitalized. You are not needing a ventilator to help with your symptoms, And so unfortunately we do see breakthrough. But I think that's what we need to understand that we need to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible and follow public health mitigation measures, so transmit transmission and then mutations slow down. Well, lots of you are joining the conversation. Piece of mind Tweets as a wedding guest next month In this time of Covid 19. I plan to keep my mask or double mask on during the entire ceremony and reception. I may remove it, but only briefly to drink and eat will be in Maryland and Kathleen Emails. My cousin is getting married next month. It's an indoor wedding, and they're requesting not requiring vaccinations. They're also having a whole horde of Children as guests, and I have autoimmune issues. My family is unhappy about it, but I won't be attending their covid super spreader event. Jacqueline, How have you been working with couples to figure out what precautions They may need to take at their weddings or how they may need to rethink their wedding completely because of Covid. Absolutely. And our first thing that we always think about is the safety of our client and of the gas, So we really set a high standard for our clients at the very beginning. So when invitations went out, we set the tone that you have to be vaccinated in order to attend any event. Um, we also you know, like the doctor was saying, we say to them don't allow Children. Which helps we also make sure like if there is transportation via buses or anything with really, really close quarters that people are wearing their masks because this is also going to help mitigate We're trying to do and take all the right steps for our clients and for the guests so that they feel comfortable and so that they can party, um 95% of our events and we're very, very blessed. To have that, but they've been outside. They've been under tents and as a designer, we naturally separate tables out. So there's always a 6 to 7 FT. Distance just so catering Can get by. So we have that social distance aspect to it as well. And then on top of that, we're making sure that all of our vendors you know, and this is industrywide. All of the vendors are wearing masks. So people around you that are doing weddings, you know, constantly are taking all of the right precautions to keep you safe because they want to keep safe as well. And how important is communication here between the couple getting married and their guests Because I have to say Page and maybe it's a producer Hard at work page is very clear on that website about what is required of guests like it. They need to see a vaccination card masking its outwardly, but it's very well spelled out for us, so we know what to expect. When we arrive at the wedding, we know well in advance, And so as a guest, I feel really prepared. Yeah, and communication This year is key. That is the only way that we're able to do what we do, and it is a constant. We're talking to clients were talking to C. D. C. We're talking to all of the people that we need to to ensure safety and we're doing the very, very best that we can. And I think that it's valid to understand, too that while there is all this open communication There is a lot of frustration not only on the client part but on the guest part and on the vendor part and that frustration leads to people being scared. And, you know, it just goes back to us, making sure that we're communicating. You know, both parties are communicating and making sure that they fully understand what the expectations are. And if those expectations are met, then you shouldn't attend. We're talking to Jacqueline Watson. She's a certified wedding planner in Vermont, New York and Florida, also with us. Dr Rachel Lee, an infectious disease specialist and healthcare epidemiologist at the University of Alabama, Birmingham and Eric Apandi. She's a business reporter for Axios. We also want to hear from you if you're currently planning a wedding, what's your experience been like doing it during the pandemic? Did you have to postpone your wedding Because of Covid. And if your wedding vendor house businessman for you, you can comment on our Facebook page tweet us at one. A. Orson as an email at one A at W am you dot org.
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"Identity today. I'm Jen white. This is one a Wondering how I know on the next fresh air. We conclude our summer of soul series with interviews from the archives with Mavis Staples and Gladys Knight, both performed at the 1969 Harlem Cultural Festival documented in the film by Quest, Love, Join us Now on weeknight today on 89.3 kpcc. Yes, I don't know that. I heard it. You have a wholly new heart. It will never, ever go away and maybe basic good thing. Hi, It's John Ray Be inviting you to join us. Tuesday through Saturday as KPCC marks the 20th anniversary of 9 11. We'll have special interviews every day on air talk reports from KPCC news throughout the week. And documentaries. On Saturday. It all starts Tuesday. Here on 89.3 kpcc. Hi, I'm Josie Huang. I cover Asian American communities for KPCC and latest and I'm inviting you to a special virtual event. I'll be sitting down with Kat Chow, co founder of NPR's Code switch to talk about her work and new memoir, Seeing ghosts. It's about grief, race, gender in the three generations of our Chinese American family, in partnership with scripts presents its September 28. R S. V p at kpcc dot org slash in person. Support for.
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"This is one a. I'm jen white. in washington. young adult fiction has the range it can be set in the past or have a more contemporary lens. It can be realistic or fantastical and while it's characters are usually teenagers and young adults. It's red and beloved by fans of all ages and those fans and their online communities have made young adult or why fiction more popular than ever on tiktok. The hashtag book talk has over ten billion views and you could spend hours scrolling through book recommendations reviews and fan art set to music and according to market research groups book talk has contributed a seventy percent increase in demand compared to last year with ten million books being sold that breaks the previous record of eight million books. Sold in two thousand fourteen for this month's installment of our writers room series. We're talking to three. Who are waie superstars on the state of the genre and the communities that fuel it joining us from california is lee bardu go. She's the best selling author of the grecia verse. Books including the shadow and bone trilogy lee. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much delighted to be here. Also joining us from los angeles is adam silveira author of the both die at the adam. Welcome and joining us from new york is eli cart. She's the author of we were liars e. Welcome to the program. Glad to be here. Okay i just want to start with a very general question because there's so many genres of books. What drew you to. Why a leo come to you i. I don't think i really understood. That was writing. Why initially. I was writing coming of age story which are fairly common in fantasy. And i don't think it's almost embarrassing to admit housekeeping. My learning curve was in terms of understanding what the market was for young adult books and also for particular kind of fantasy irate sitting to world fantasy which means you know something. Like game of thrones or lord of the rings where it looks like our world but is and at the time. Nobody wanted that. At all. And i'm glad i didn't know that because has finished my book and sell it. Well it turned out rather well for you. I have to say and what about for you. You know i got my start. In children's publishing as a seller and as a book reviewer and as like a mentor on a creative writing website for teenagers. So i've always sort of been in the children's and young adults space but i think as a queer writer being able to write about waie from that angle sort of provide an opportunity for me to reimagine what my life could have looked like as a teenager if i have felt more safe and secure to come out sooner and e for you. I had written a couple books for adults in a couple books for very young children and i was sort of flailing around not knowing what to do next in terms of my pretty stalled Writing career and an editor at random house asked my agent. If i might be interested in writing something and that was the first time anybody ever invited me to write something. And it was a time when waie was kind of exploding into the marketplace. With books like sisterhood of the traveling pants and the princess diaries and so i'm showing my age but read bunch of those books. And i love them. They were so feminist. And clever and creatively structured the voices. Were really fun and cheeky and delightful. And when i published my first way i discovered that the young adult literature community which includes authors but also librarians and educators and youth advocates. Have all types was a place that i really wanted to be. You know unlike maybe adult literary fiction the readers of waie have actual needs and issues that are important to the writers who create books for them. You know literacy sexual education gender identity access to book censorship. all these kinds of things. And i love the way. The community centered around those issues that concern the readers will lee your trilogy shadow and bone Follow lena star as she navigates her new powers in a fantasy world threatened by sinister magic shadow in boneless recently turned into a net series by the same name. Here's a bit from the trailer of that. Shell enemies threatened by exist with the whole world off. The the prize is one million krueger. Bring anita stock off off until you into the phone and destroy it from impression..
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"Joe knows that lockdown has been hard on us as humans as people are hardwired to connect with others which is why this whole time is so difficult. I'm jen white. this is one a. We're marking the one hundred year anniversary of the tulsa race massacre with phoebe are stubblefield of horrific anthropologist at the university of florida and oklahoma state representative regina goodwin democrat. They're both descendants of survivors of the massacre. And we asked you for your thoughts of that day in one thousand nine hundred ninety one. Here's some of what you left in our in box. I went to bishop college in nineteen sixty three and i was a freshman with two women from of work and they talked about the massacre. All my grandmother was a young secretary in tulsa in nineteen twenty one. She was getting on the jitney to go to work and the driver told her. It was not a good day to go into town. My grandfather was in the ku klux klan. And tell us in the nineteen twenties. I i learned of the massacre from a book and the nineteen nineties and at the same time discovered a family photograph. that shows the smoke from greenwood. Burning lay talk told us things that their grandparents aunties or whatever living in in the woods hiding the woods over the over the winter and how they had to hide from the way folks. She never felt good about the parks that were being. Put along the arkansas river. Because she said she had seen truck full of bodies being dumped into the river. My grandfather worked near greenwood. But i never learned if he had taken the photo or even if he had been directly involved. My grandmother had described watching refugees from greenwood. Lean pass their home die and eerie rob. Thanks for sharing that with us representative goodwin. Can you tell us your family's story from that night. Yeah absolutely My great grandfather. James henry good one was the business manager of the tulsa star newspaper. That was the black on newspapers. Also homa son and that day and that would be the newspaper that would burn all the way to the ground. My grandfather was a senior in high school and on that day. He was preparing for the prom like many of us would do and he was decorating the hotel and worded come. I had a great aunt. Also anna and Decorating the hotel and word came into them but trouble is coming and so that is how they i heard of the race massacre. That would be approaching. And how did they. How did they escape so By god's grace grace i tell you that when they heard that trouble was coming and also That day they're also doing a high school. Play booker t. washington so those were that of young folks in day. So they did what they could get to the safety of their own homes and My grandfather Within go return to his home and my great grandfather jane kin rate was very fair. Complected and that day they would call it passing. He always made it very clear that he was a black man. His his skin tone was very very fair and the oral histories that he stood on the house. This port to the house and as the white racist mobs coming through and burning homes and shooting. He weighed them away. Like move on and they just Magin that he was a white man and they bypassed his house. And i'm telling you that that that is really significant for me because my grandfather. When he was in high school he was. And i'm just saying that he was Said he was going to be most likely to succeed right. And and his high school yearbook before the massacre he wrote in his yearbook. He said i know. Not where lifestyle lead me nor win death so come but this. I know the lord me unprepared without a home. He wrote that in a high school yearbook and it just so happens that good one home. That was one of the few that would remain. And i think that is a story that is just expert my memory and i think it speaks volumes one to talking about a home that you have physically and a home that you have spiritually so that is just a brief story telling now two thousand. Three survivors of the massacre sued the city of tulsa for reparation saying the attack with state-sanctioned. I like how was the massacre state-sanctioned representative well number one. You had the in that day you had a national guard that it come in. They'd come in late and when they did come in. Many of them brutalized the very citizens that they were. Suppose we protect it. That that is documented How state-sanctioned is again. We're talking about the national guard. There was supposed to be. The troops are coming in to save Some of them came in and they did irreparable harm. And then you also have the city also that was complicit because you had police officers that were deputising moms the white folks that went on to murder black folks so it's very clear it's very evident There's A captain blaine. That's often named in many of the lawsuits that were filed then and they talk about seeing him Shooting folks and you have eyewitnesses at talk about. Not only the plane ride over tulsa and wasn't wasn't for we're cognizant it was for shooting people and you have witnesses to that so the bombs that were dropped down on top of the city Also again when you have police officers that are complicit. Then you've got the state and the city and the county for that matter that are complicit without question that's documented fact out at two hundred page document that came out in two thousand one. So what's happened with that lawsuit and other legislation seeking.
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"That Joe Biden won the 2020 election. Pew Research found this month that 64% of Republicans believe incorrectly that Donald Trump won instead. There's no evidence showing widespread fraud in the election results have been upheld again and again by Republican election officials across the country. So why do so many people still believe it? Before we ask the esque experts we wanted to hear from someone who has believed in conspiracy theories. One listener called us from Utah with his story about realizing that some things he believed in May not be true. So this morning we called him back. Hello. Hi. This is Jen White. How are you? I'm good. How you doing today? I'm doing okay. Thanks for speaking with us today. Sure, no problem. So you said that you used to believe in some conspiracies after 9 11. What changed for you? Um, mainly, it was just a soul searching. I noticed that I was not very happy. I was scared a lot of the time. Definitely making me to press those, you know, trying to find more more information, and I seem to change to be honest. How did you get out of the mindset of being consumed by these things? Um, you know, I've been trying to figure that out myself. I think the main thing I did is I just decided to try to control like control. Control things in front of me. I just started applying myself more in my community and that actually made me feel better. Got me out of the depression. And you know, like a patrol back in control. You told us. Your parents recently started believing in some conspiracies to tell us about that it did, And it was surprised right after the Capitol riots essentially We finally started talking again. We had talked in a while, and my mother told me that she believed it was liberals dressed up as Trump supporters who had stormed the capital. Make trump with that, And that was so mind blowing that I didn't I didn't know my mom was such a suburban Texas woman. Would get there in her head, So it's very surprised by it. So the conversation with your parents about what happened at the Capitol started around a photo Your father Found of the insurrection. What happened from there? Yes. So I get this random text for my dad. But, you know, I don't hear from him to regularly and it's a photograph of the man at the riot who kind of looks like me and get a beard on the camera. Well, you know, just said Oh, it looks like you came over to the dark side of the captured by dancing with it. And although we didn't know how to take it, but I saw it as an opportunity to finally have a conversation. We've had a lot of tainted relationship moments through Christmas and Thanksgiving was that four years has been really hard. And I just decided that this was not gonna be when those times where I was going to try to come with facts and I was gonna come till they decide it's wrong. Decided, Tonto, you know, address situation by asking what he actually believed them. And when I found out is you know we're lined up. Maybe 70% on what we believe in. They're very weird Friends think that we don't agree with it, since my dad does not believe in climate change. My mom believes in two and on stuff, but it's easier push those ideas to the French when we know that the meat and potatoes of what we all believe in this roughly saying When you think about the challenges you've had in your relationship with your parents over the past year or so, and you think about that. The times when you were in conspiratorial thinking. Does it make you think about maybe the way your relationships were Were tested or or strained. I think the big difference is is that all the conspiracy is that I believed in Never joined. Never made me go align myself with a hate group or Electra premises Group or violent people. You know if I was In about 9 11 conspiracy that was not dressed up a tactical here and try to hurt people. Um, so I don't feel like it's the same. It doesn't mean that there's not You know a version of my own crazy, but that's why I have a hard time about where my parents are at their good people. I don't think they're racist people, but the fact that they could align themselves With these other groups and not want to push them away. That's where ever really hard time with it. So for that, 30% That you don't agree on. Do you feel compelled Two. Lean into that 30% or is it more? You know, that's just that's a mind filled. We're not going to talk about that. So yeah, I mean, well, we've only really started talking about this in the capital, right? You know, my dad will send me article from Tucker Carlson's some video of him talking and before I would have just totally thrown that out. I have my own, You know, idea the food. Tucker Carlson is and what he's trying to do so before I was, like, okay? Yeah, Whatever. I'm not gonna watch that now. I'm really trying to watch it and think critically through it and be like what is like that trying to tell me through this video, What is really Issue at hand that he's trying to show me so I want to have the conversation. I think when we When we keep talking about it, we'll figure all this stuff out is there I guess a threshold for you. For how far you're willing to.
