17 Burst results for "Jellicoe Church"
"jellicoe church" Discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett
"What a hectic after accidentally ended up being. It's one of those things where you're at home you're like. How is it stressful at my own. How one seconds. Let me just. I was hoping to have this set up before restarted. But i'm just going to download one thing lyric sheets and then we'll get started just in case we do end up passing the buck. Yeah i have some lyrics in front of me as well. But i just thought you might. There might be something you wanna call up. Yeah no that's really cool. okay. I'm going to pull it up going to close this and then let me hit record. There's no limit on the recorder app. Or do i have to keep an eye on that. I don't believe so but it wouldn't be a good idea to keep it on the top seat since we are doing radio. Just in case it stops on you. Okay i will do that. Let me see backing up. Okay i'm pressing record okay. We're recording okay. So does that mean that you weren't recording into on you told us about the rabbit eating or headphone. Oh here take sorry. Well no don't be sorry. Oh so you've got it okay. That's actually a good it. Okay yeah and i should ask because here we are here. We are speaking in a pandemic year in our pandemic winter. i I'm in my mind makeshift Recording what my colleagues come according cave in my basement and my house where are you. I'm in are we up his studio apartment. So it's really just one real so i kind of set up a makeshift recording area in front of our big window behind like it's such a tiny apartment but behind a big red leather chair that we sit in at night and right next to the bed. So it's all one thing you can see if you looking at it you can see table behind me. Okay so i mean you. You grew up with a lot of music in the world around you. It sounds like it sounds very cool to have a family dinner theater. I forgot. I mean like it's one of those things where you don't really think about how it's cool at the time and then when you become an adult you're like oh that was really neat. Yeah my parents were musical. Even before that they actually met in a musical and so that's always been a part of our lives and then around ten. My mom's decided like kind of spontaneously that she wanted to open a dinner theater and my dad went along with it and they did that for twenty years. So it's a really big part of my knowing up. Yeah was there a spiritual or was there a religious background to your childhood. Yes actually so When i was very young my parents went through a presbyterian church that there was strife in that church. that wasn't super healthy so we ended up going to even jellicoe church which later on my parents are like. Yeah that was probably not the best fit for us but But i grew up in a covenant church and and i it's like it's kind of funny because i would go there anymore and i don't really identify in that way. If i identified with anything it would be quicker at this point probably I went there in college. If it wasn't in the morning i would still go there. But i don't go anywhere in the morning if i don't have to. But it was an interesting experience because definitely spirituality huge hugely important to me and then it did give me this kind of an understanding of like evangelical religion that i think has helped me try to bridge the gap as much as i can between people who don't understand it and people that live in that world. You know what i mean so yeah. Yeah yeah spirituality is definitely a huge part of my experience. But it's like now it's morphed into it's really electic and i read all sorts of different spiritual traditions and so it's definitely changed a lot since i was a kid. Yeah i mean. I think that's true. I think i think that's true for people even for most people even if they stay exactly the same you know. It was the same congregation. They were in the child because ganda inch. Yeah i mean i So you know one thing. I was thinking about as i was singing about this and you is. You know i'm just. I'm curious about so you you were born with the Brittle-bone disease osteo genesis imperfect. Right if which which means and just want to make. Sure i've got this right that that your bones. It caught your bones to break in utero Right so that. While while you're in the in the wom- yeah basically it's a genetic disorder of the collagen and so even now. My bones are more fragile but in the way that it manifested for me. It's very. they can look different depending on individual for me. I did break. Probably thirty or forty or fifty. They don't actually know 'cause x-rays and ultrasounds were pretty bad back then. But i broke a lot in utero and then growing up by i broke. I think broken sixteen bones since i was born But yeah. The vast majority happened before i was born. Yeah and just like. I think i can't imagine that mr been something that you got curious about as you were becoming older and more aware and i just as i'm thinking about this question 'cause i'm always curious about the the spiritual background of childhood. I think it shapes people whether they stay in that place or not often as a place that raises a lot of the questions that they that they follow. And i just feel like you had such a very particular and intense experience of being in your body and it made me wonder if if how you might think about how that informed or shaped the spiritual sensibility or how you experienced this part of life that we call or this part of yourself that the spiritual part of yourself even even in your life. Yeah i guess that's a good question. One that i've honestly never been asked before i guess for me early on lake. Maybe by the time. I was sixteen or so i did feel specifically like i was supposed to be born this way like the image. Just really obvious to me. And i don't think everybody always feels persuasive. I don't speak for everybody with a disability. Of course but but for me it i would not be the same person without it. I mean there's just no. There's no reality that i live right now. That would look the same if i didn't have a disability so pretty early. I felt that that was something that like. God or whatever you know has set up for me on purpose of this kind of random but as part of the story against the i started learning about the concept of reincarnation and i really think it's awesome. I can't prove that it's right or anything. But it makes sense to me in that context to and you know the idea that i happen to be not just with this body but with parents who were they were just like the perfect centers parents for goodell fehmi into who i am and i feel i just feel like it's definitely was meant to be the way that unfolded and so spiritually i think teaches you know disability in general but also my disability where you break bones pretty suddenly and you. Don't you know you know one day you're going along getting ready for work and then all of a sudden you broke your arm That has happened a couple of different times where the permanence of life has always been very front and center and that i think that also touches into the spiritual aspect of existing is like that. There's no guarantees of any nor like you can't predict what the future holds. And so that. That informs the way you lose i.
"jellicoe church" Discussed on Spark My Muse
"Well they fit into the narrative. I mean, each one Kinda has their solid spot. I'm sure the Holy Spirit had something to do with that one individual is the very last one I added. Donny is his name I didn't have. What I felt like was a solid individual who had. Experience with. The. African, American church. And I really wanted that piece and so I actually asked in a writing group if there was someone that they knew of and Donny is A. Church, member of a fellow writer and she said I think he would be perfect when I got in touch with him. He was more than happy to share his story. So it was neat the way some of the stories came to be. But. Like I said I felt like very spirit led whenever I would get them. I'm like Oh this makes perfect sense here. So it was a neat feature to add to the book. What are a couple of different faith traditions and denominations that made it in for people who haven't read it like I have. Yes. There is a Lutheran. And there's a gentleman who he went to an Episcopalian school but grew up Catholic left Catholicism and. ended up attending a an event of Jellicoe church and then fell in love with contemplative practice and Lo, and behold was introduced yet again to Catholicism. So his history's really interesting I have a couple of other baptists like me. Like I grew up there is a seventh day adventist. Which? Total I learned so much just reading her essay because that was a denomination not familiar with there's a couple Orthodox. So yeah, definitely a big variety pentecostal individual as well. A new also went out I remember seeing your your social media posts about this too as you were experiencing all sorts of different kinds of services yourself from different denominations in places you were unfamiliar with checking them out seeing what other Christians were experiencing. Listening to what you are up to with your different visits you purposefully sought out these experiences and I'm wondering what we're a few of your surprises or what were a few takeaways that you added to your own spiritual practices your ways of being a Christian it's a great question I. It's become a passion of mine to visit different places. I often go alone. Sometimes. Because it's just kind of the way it works out logistically. But also, it can be a little daunting to think of bringing someone with you when you don't even know for yourself what you're going to experience probably three or four, TIMES THERE IS A. A negative say it right? Antioch. In I think is how they say it Orthodox Church that is about thirty five minutes from my house and I reached out to the priest. I often send an email before I just show up in. I..
"jellicoe church" Discussed on Exvangelical
"Thirty six year-old pedophile. Who went through the full grooming process? Really I think it's since quite a ways away. This very vulnerable child. This is a child that feels very out of place and I was an easy target. In addition to that there was a lot of abuse that went on in our home At one point was removed from my parents home while the super active in their church but There was an investigation over a lot of the abuse that went on with me and my father. So you've you've got this kid who everything in my world. That was good was about God everything that had to do with being a Christian or finding peace had to do with being gutted from the core to become something that matches scripture of matches doctrine. Right that whole he must increase decrease sort of thinking. Yeah or you know what are privileged to suffer in his to share the fellowship of his sufferings. And you think about a young six year old. Who's hearing those messages? And how complicated? That is where his nervous system has been hijacked from sexual abuse. He has all of this trauma living inside of his body. He is doing everything he can to pull everything together in a daily basis to make sure that he is presentable fills loved while on the inside is falling apart because all of the security that a kid supposed to have has been systematically strategically removed. And he's this kind of walking hollow. Shell looking for anything to lead him to the next path. I'm sorry that will happen to you. It's terrible and as an interviewer I feel like I feel terrible. Just having to ask you another question is and I always I always say this interviews. I if anything. I'm extremely comfortable talking about these things. I started working on this twenty four years ago wrong. Haven't talked about it enough and my intent. I I need zero validation about my story. I need the people who are hurting the most who are quiet alone believing that a somehow created the shame that they've experienced created the traumatic experience. I need them to hear. The story can start a process to recognize this nothing to do with me. So I'm open game and buried comfortable and being able to talk about these things okay. Well I'm I'm glad to hear that because I do have more questions so i WanNa return to how you brought up shame and hear from you. A little bit about how that shame was reinforced by the sort of religious experiences that you had the religious teachings and communities that you were a part of Because I think that is something that's really resonant with a lot of listeners. A lot of people that come from fundamentalists or even more general less hardline types of evangelicalism. The sense that as you said the everything. That's what really stood out. Was You said everything that was good had was ascribed to God and everything? That's bad as described to you being in a place. Where your experience? In home when you're experiencing this these traumas and have been subject to these Been abused how did that interact with with all these things? As you said your body is just your body in your mind you're processing and then you're told that the only good thing in the universe's as what God does or who got is sure. Sure so think about you know. We know the message that we all got us. Kids that grow up in the he'd been jellicoe Church in. I would say if you start with masculinity to be a boy or a man a Christian man. It's very specific that that means that you are in love with a woman in your her spiritual leader and you're stronger than her and you work and she doesn't she stays on with your kids. It means that you are. You have a deeper insight and understanding. you are following. Christ and being Godly When you think about all of those things they are. It's not just like Hey. If you're able to do these things then you can check the box. Nba satisfied in the sight of God. It's also however if you are not these things you go to hell. You are basically dismissed and so as a very young child..
"jellicoe church" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community
"And everyday living the Bible not about you. You're not David trouble in. Life is not goliath Jesus is going to be David evening. The Shadow Goliath is going to be sending death. That make you make you the Israelites GonNa kill all of us. That's exactly who you are. What is your only comfortable life and in death but I was body and soul life and death and not my own belonged faithful savior? Jesus Christ Gospel is God. The son freely agreed to die or death for us to suffer are deserve condemnation. Do in our place and he didn't disagree from eternity to do it it. It is fatal fatal for us to think that we can ever be one from the Gospel. A great problem and even Jellicoe Church today with scripture is concerned as Aaronson a Bible. The great problem even elegant shirts today is the sufficiency Ascriptin. You don't think it's sufficient the do what we have to do so we have to wake up to what's happening recognized. The problem really is our lack of theology. Autumn and and welcome to Theology.
"jellicoe church" Discussed on Theology Gals
"And everyday living the Bible not about you. You're not David trouble in. Life is not goliath Jesus is going to be David evening. The Shadow Goliath is going to be sending death. That make you make you the Israelites GonNa kill all of us. That's exactly who you are. What is your only comfortable life and in death but I was body and soul life and death and not my own belonged faithful savior? Jesus Christ Gospel is God. The son freely agreed to die or death for us to suffer are deserve condemnation. Do in our place and he didn't disagree from eternity to do it it. It is fatal fatal for us to think that we can ever be one from the Gospel. A great problem and even Jellicoe Church today with scripture is concerned as Aaronson a Bible. The great problem even elegant shirts today is the sufficiency Ascriptin. You don't think it's sufficient the do what we have to do so we have to wake up for what's happening recognized. The problem really is our lack of theology. Autumn and and welcome to Theology.
"jellicoe church" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"If not has okay. Guitar watson. We've Ozzy village without borders is an organization that told us to join the caravan then everything's going to be easy. But then you're on the road, and it's really hard difficulty medical. They deceive all they say we're going to the Mexico US border, and we'll all cross together. Better the truth is if you can't do this legal. It was. Bummer. This urge to be Mont Arlene jumped the fence. But it's better to return to my country because that's against the law. Still punish you better to wait in line. If he's not sent to migrate the kitchen facility darling at elite Mocatta wants to join his brother in San Antonio, Texas and find work Pueblo seen thrown at us, a Mexico based immigrant solidarity organization posted a response to recent criticism of its actions on its Facebook page. They emphatically reject the quote defamation of our work company. In the caravan. The group vows to continue to support and protect the human rights of Central American migrants in transit. The waiting game and the squalid shelters in Tijuana is grading on. Everyone's nerves blunt EDS and her family from Tegucigalpa Honduras are cooling their heels at a shelter run by an England Jellicoe church called the embassador is for Christ. She's a heavy set woman with weary is they're staying in a camping tent set up in the church sanctuary every day. She her two sons and two grandchildren discuss what their next move should be Adolfo. We'll get to the employee echinacea. We're frustrated we've been here. A long time. We're discussing the possibility of staying here in Tijuana because there's one is well, but there are days when we also wonder if we should jump the fence, we don't know what we'll do more and more Hondurans who came into caravan are deciding to stay in Tijuana, Mexico is issued more than two thousand humanitarian visas that allow them to work in this booming border city on the Pacific coast foreign-owned assembly plants, construction sites, fruit vendors, they're all hiring. Santos Kellyanne Gomez who says he fled marauding gangs in total one hundred has taken a job washing dishes for a humanitarian group world central kitchen appears hundreds of.
"jellicoe church" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM
"Join us right here. The toll free number is eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three one place. You're not gonna find a bunch of spam? As far as the user created content is over at liberty dot menu. That's where libertarians have for a long time have wanted to have a platform where they can promote their business as letting folks know that it's a liberty friendly business. That's where you can go to liberty dot menu and get started. It's free. You just submit whatever items you want to the site, and they can be, you know, your different projects the different businesses that you have if you're a digital content creator. You can submit your content there over at liberty dot menu. You can also if you are for instance, a events coordinator, let's say you're putting something together like upcoming forecast. Twenty nineteen you can put that up on there as well. Whatever it is. You're doing whatever it is. You want other? Libertarians to know that you're doing get it up over there over liberty dot menu. It's free. So tried out. Liberty dot menu libertarian if you're not you really don't belong there. So you do need to be an individual who rejects the initiation of force and agrees to abide by the ethics of the non aggression principle. But if you do then you qualify to use liberty dot menu. We're talking about all kinds of fakery on the internet. The story coming from the intelligence here over at New York magazine and talking about the fake humans the humans, pretending they're other humans fake, robots pretending they're humans even saying there are humans pretending to be robots on the internet as well. The Atlantic reports that non CGI human influencers are posting fake sponsored content that is content mental look like content. That's mental look authentic for free to attract attention from brand reps who they hope will pay them real money. The money is usually real not always ask someone who. Suzy got into crypto currency this time last year, but often enough to be an engine of the inversion if the money's real why does anything else need to be earlier this year, the writer and artist Genio del began to look into an Amazon reseller that had bought goods from other Amazon, resellers and resold. Them again on Amazon at higher prices. Odell discovered an elaborate network of fake price, gouging and copyright stealing. Businesses connected to the cult like evangelical church whose followers resurrected Newsweek in two thousand thirteen as Zambia search engine optimized spam farm. This is just bizarre. What? Yeah. Apparently. It's not Lear which evangelical Newsweek magazine it was. Oh, yeah. They they ended and apparently says they have had Jellicoe church. Brought it back as as zombie search engine optimized spam farm, she visited a strange bookstore operated by the resellers in San Francisco and found a stunted concrete reproduction of the dazzlingly dazzlingly phony storefronts that she'd encountered on Amazon arranged haphazardly with bestselling books. Plastic Chomsky's and beauty products apparently bought from wholesalers. She said at some point I begin to feel like I was in a dream or that I was half awake. Unable to distinguish the virtual from the real the local from the global a product from a photo shop in the sincere from the insincere welcome to the internet. The only site that gives me that dizzying sensation of unreality as often as Amazon does is YouTube which plays host to. Week's worth of inverted in human content. TV episodes that have been mirror flipped to avoid copyright take downs because the YouTube algorithms will detect a certain video signature as this is copyrighted movie ex. But if you reverse the video, I watched Hercules in reverse when you really, yeah. The Hercules the rock I watched it on my TV size. Just flipped and it didn't bother me a bit that I couldn't read the credits. The rock was in it. Yeah. Good. Well, sometimes they blow it up to. They and they blow it up that would annoy the hell out of me that I can't do. Yeah. My kids will watch polar express care. Yeah. That's giving me a headache. So apparently these mirror videos or right next to huckster bloggers flogging merchandise who air next to non asleep produced videos that are extensively for children. An animated video of Spiderman Elsa from frozen riding tractors is not, you know, not real some poor soul animated it and gave its voice to its gave voice to its actors. And I have no doubt that some number dozens hundreds million sure why not of kids have sat and watched and found some mystifying cult enjoyment in it that it's certainly not official. My kids watch the stupidest stuff on the internet, yo leg, you've you've seen the breakfast burrito. Song? The video. I don't know you have to play it on the show all the time. Now, I love it. And they that whole thing they love the is it just some bizarre thing. They just they sing songs about tacos. Nachos and burrito chicken nuggets, you know, like stuff that kids like, and they sing these fun. Little dance songs are like power, ballads and stuff. And they're hilarious that used to be Barney on PBS. But now, there's so many more. Brian the little boy that opens like eggs, and kinder- eggs and toys and just plays at toys. He now has his own toy line kid makes like thirty seven million dollars a year. Wow. Play with toys on video. Yeah. Yeah. Every day. He gets a big plastic egg filled with crap and he opens it up and my kids go bananas because he's got a whole case of kinder- eggs. And he just opens them, all and takes all the toys out of him. And goes look all the toys from the kinder- eggs true. They legalized kinder- eggs in the United States. They're back there in WalMart. Now, what does that kinder- egg? Heard of these see used to be prohibited in the United States you'd have to get them in Canada. And I think and I think it was illegal to sneak them across the border weren't supposed to have them. I used the Muslim stores because they would buy them over there. And then smuggled them into the US and sell them on the counter day with a toy in it. I've never ate egg the chocolate egg and inside the chocolate egg is a plastic egg. And inside the plastic egg is either a toy or a little thing with inside of it? Right. And so the claim was kids are gonna choke on these. Yeah. So therefore look at WalMart. You can get them with princesses Disney princesses and Star Wars now. So I guess Disney had the clout. Okay. Because all the eggs that. I see here in the states are Disney, licensed toys inside of them. So yeah, that's been. It's been a long time that those have been prohibited. I don't know how long it's been. But I remember hearing about another company that makes them and they do like my little pony. They do all the other ones. It's called wonder wonder balls wonder balls. That's the other right? All right. Let's continue with more of the fakery here on the internet. So it says here snug these videos aren't official, and it's hard watching it on screenings adult to understand where it came from. And what it means that the view count beneath that is continually taking up these at least are mostly bootleg videos the popular fictional characters. I e counterfeit unreality counterfeit reality is still more difficult to find for now in January of two thousand eighteen and anonymous red editor created a relatively easy to use desktop application. Implementation of deep fakes, and I actually have a different article about these the now infamous technology that uses artificial intelligence image processing to replace one face in a video with another putting say a politician over a porn stars. Recent academic paper from researchers at the graphics card company. Invidia demonstrates a similar used to create images of computer generated human faces that look shockingly like photographs of real. People. So the next time Russians when a puppeteer group of invented Americans on Facebook. They won't even need to steal the photos of the real people, contrary to what you might expect a world suffused with debates and other artificially generated for photographic images won't be one in which fake images are routinely believed to be real, but one in which real images are routinely believed to be fake simply because in the wake of the inversion who'll be able to tell the difference. How will you really know? I just can't stop laughing about how he's beating this Russian. You know, it's like in a country where the Israeli military threatened to assassinate a Senator to his face in the seventies were worried about the Russians making Facebook posts. I mean, really come on. I don't think this guy's worried about it. I think he's just pandering to it. Example of because this guy's accepted this as reality. This is like what he's trying to explain is that there's so much fakery already, and it's only going to get worse over time. If you see an image of a group of people on the internet. They may not even be real. But what does it even mean? Anyway. Well, then that means that all the photographic evidence. From the Boston bombing and everything else could all be faked. Everything can be faked. What did you hear the the moon isn't really there? That's a projection by. And the earth is flat. Three talk. Black ish scratch stinker. 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"jellicoe church" Discussed on Fresh Air
"And segregation, I was totally hooked because I'd never heard anyone speak that way, and it sounded accurate, and we're their spiritual things that he said that spoke to you as well. Yes. He also appealed completely to somebody who just turned fifteen. He said now, you can have a new life. You can be born again, you can break out of the confines of the world you live in for me. That was suburban Palo Alto and sort of break into a new universe a much larger canvas. And, you know, find a new family, and I thought, wow, I that was a new resistible invitation. So, you know, I it's interesting that death tested your faith, pretty soon. You know, you were looking to art and music and poetry for a sense of larger meaning to and a good friend of yours named Paul was a painter, and he taught you about painting, and you were very close. And then he was killed in a car crash. He was a passenger in the car, and that tested your faith because of things that your fellow Christian friends said he what were some? Of those things. Well, it wasn't even the tested my faith, it whatever that meant. I went back to my Evan Jellicoe friends that my friend Paula was killed with sixteen in high school. And when I went back to the Evan Jellicoe church. My friends were very sympathetic, and they said, oh, that's terrible. Was he born again? And I said, no he was Jewish. And then they looked at me stunned and said, well, then he's in hell, and I thought what that has nothing to do with what attracted me to this kind of community this kind of conviction. God loves you all of that. It has nothing to do with that. It's antiethical, and I felt completely alone walked out of there and never went back. Did you wanna find another church after that? Or did you just give up? No. No because I felt that they were also filling different brands of of a certain product, which could get caught in particular shapes. And that they wanted to sort of force people to think a certain way, and I was not having it that time Terry. So a little detour here because this is the part of restore that intersects with Jerry Garcia. And I thought what Elaine Paige goals new Jerry Garcia before he was in the Grateful Dead that just kind of shocked me. So I was in that car. Yes. He had been in Palo Alto. Playing music hanging out at various places can keys house up in low strength woods and in town, and he was older than the rest of us. But those of us in highschool who knew that group were fascinated. He was a brilliant guitarist, and he taught us all kinds of music. We never heard of. So I didn't know him very closely. But he was very much a part of that group. When Paul my friend was killed in a car crash. It was coming from a party where Jerry and Ellen tryst who was his later his business manager were in the car as well as to other people and Jerry was actually thrown out of the windshield. And ellen. I think broke his backer. He had a terrible accident. And so we became after that rather close friends because we spent time together after the accident with a couple of other friends who. Who who had known each other before you speculate in the book that the Grateful Dead was named in part because he survived this car crash. And you know, Paul did not do you have any evidence of that really was the source of the name of the ban. Yes. I did speculate that it seemed obvious to me. And then later, I read something about it. I never I didn't see him after that. I mean after he formed the group that was years later, but I saw in a biography about the group that he said that accident woke him up and made him realize he didn't have endless time, and he had to get serious. And so the name of the group as I understand it came from that accident, my guest is Elaine Pagel's, a professor of religion at Princeton University and author of the new book, why religion a personal story. We'll talk more after a break and Ken Tucker will review a new album by the country trio. Pistol.
"jellicoe church" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Monocle Daily
"You're listening to the Mongol daily on monocle twenty four. I am Marcus hip in Brazil, critical media outlets have been getting use to almost daily sucks by the right wing president-elect Shire Bolsonaro, but no years sworn to that was he takes over the office. Something even worse is to come for more. I'm joined by Monaco Fernando was supposed to go in the studio. So what is the latest would have we heard from both Nora? Well, basically was not is not very happy with the way, he's portrayed in some of our media outlets, including a fulsome Powell, which is the largest newspaper in Brazil, actually, have to be on his Marcus fillets impose one of the few media outlets that have been quite critical of both on IRO in a way that I do think the Brazilian meeting. Jenner was not as critical as they should with his candidacy. So of course, he's being annoyed. So for them. Some is the one who discovered the story about the what saps candle the swimming trip owners connected to both on our were. Sending fake news against the order candidate. So and is interesting because both supporters they threatened the reporter full at some power. The roads that peace and even surge avert executive editor impalas being quoted saying that he's never seen, you know, search fiery campaign with personal attacks against its journalists. So yes, it is a difficult time because I do believe Brazil has strong freedom of present away. But things might change a little bit of both scenario. Exactly. Both on our has. Now said that when he takes over the office is going to have another thing about how direct public funds some of those have been going from marketing budgets to those newspapers to that critical media. Well, it's true. I mean, I think the government has a bit more than half a billion of dollars to invest on those type advertising, and I think quite shameful that you know, he's he's kind of peaking in choosing the media. Just just a because of the way they portray them. And we're talking very much about full at some power has been critical both scenario, but Boston has been smart in a way because he's being actually talking to some media groups that are more favorable to him. So for example, have hit court, which is the second largest broadcaster in Brazil, and they belong to an idiot monsters from Evan Jellicoe church. I mean, he's been giving like exclusive interviews today. It's clear that their support of India. There's no critical questions is just kind of an open platform for both narrow to say, whatever he wants in a way, it's the stone itching how many similarities we can see between Donald Trump and short balls are over here. If you look at posing void reproach. What does he fight against what he calls fake news? What does it in tale? Well, it's interesting that you mention Trump because let's be honest, Mark. Because even though the American press to have amazing examples of articles being quite critical of the Trump administration, but did they actually achieve some Pino? Trump's to has quite a lot of popularity. Let's see the midterms elections..
"jellicoe church" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Briefing
"So people are getting married and now until December when both tonight or will be elected interesting now, we'll go to actually the South China Morning post. You were just in Asia have just returned from Hong Kong, but an interesting Brazil connection there, isn't there? Absolutely. And they've been covering the topic quite well, I was surprised and. This piece about her Calcutta value in the south on the send the addition of the South China Morning post say we tropical Trump both scenarist anti-china FRANZ crack, and it's quite interesting because China is the largest trading partner of Brazil tonight. Oh, he didn't say very nice things about China. China's should not control Brazil. And he's also been the first Brazilian well president-elect now to visit Taiwan since the seventies as well when and you know, the relationship between Taiwan and China so is yet to be seen because I mean, I have a feeling that both sonar. He I mean, he can't continue saying those things about China. I mean, Brazil China has such a strong relationship of business relationship in a way, but you might affect in a way that's quite interesting to see how he moves forward on that. Especially this Dante Juan which is really important one for a a massive trading partner. Interesting one and make Brazil great again, I see the photo that I had never seen nor had I heard tropical Trump. So that's what we have you. Fernando last one we're going back to one of the Brazilian papers. Yeah. Let's go to the tabloids away as as well. I have S three in front of me. And then there's a peach sent out if it seems like he's falling tow. But as we today that both Tanada cried yesterday, he visited and Jellicoe church. And he said God decided that I should win the election, and we were talking before God returned big time to Brazilian politics is always being there. But not in such a strong way like that. And remember he won the election. Very much of the evangelical vote which about a quarter of the Brazilian population as well more interesting connections, perhaps than to his brand of conservatism, and that of the United States, really interesting stuff Monaco's Fernando, a gossiper Sheku there. Thank you very much. And finally on today's program. It's been fourteen years since President George W Bush announced ambitious plans for a spacecraft that would take humans beyond low earth orbit. But now after several fits and starts Airbus has delivered the European service module. It's a key component of.
"jellicoe church" Discussed on The Steve Deace Show
"I mean, I'm just going to repeat said that that that identification, and that is what is so unique about the the homosexual movement how it is made inroads within the church itself. The Catholic highschool demo- now has a a group that identifies as gay, but not not not as a group, and they would need a unique group to go through some of their issues to fight those issues, but it's not. That it's it's to make that that specific sin unique to who they are. That is the worst thing you can do with this. Because that's how you you build a shiny little idol instead of something that ultimately needs to be defeated. Now, it's not a hospital for sinners now what you're doing is people come to your hospital, and you refuse to treat them, and you tell me no the disease, you have your just fine with it. What kind of a doctor says, I don't want to treat your disease. I think your disease your you should just live with it. When we call that person, a good doctor, and yes, the Lord was tempted. He did not assume his earthly minister ministry until he mastered that temptation, okay, now, we are human beings. And again, I'm gonna defend my Catholic friend. This is why you have sacraments confession, for example in order to come to grips with your ongoing. Even when you're wearing a collar, the ongoing battle that because you're not Jesus your immortal instrument purely. And so he set aside his divinity for a time. Okay. But there was never he set it aside as he lived out the will of the father. But there was never a time that he was not God in the flesh at the exact same time. You're never got in the flesh in any ministry capacity at all whatsoever. And so this is why we have sacraments in the Catholic church like repentance or confession. This is why we have men's studies, and and small groups in the van Jellicoe church will become in confess and things of that nature. It's recognition of the fact that temptation, if we are not careful is always there. Why why I've been in churches the last week belong to I was on the preaching team. I never pursued the role of elder in the church, and I liked the way that we didn't that didn't have where they asked you to be an elder. They waited for men to come to them and show the initiative, I want I think it's calling me to be an elder, and then they've editor I love that model. They waited for the man to take initiative and they've added him. I never took the initiative to do it why. Because. I understand that I have giftedness to communicate. And it's not I'm not being an braggart because a gift did. I how did I get a gift? How did you get? How do you? How do you usually get a gift guide gave it somebody gives you something. All right. So I'm bragging on the gift giver here. I understand. I have a gift to communicate. That's why I do what I do for a living and people pay me well for it. But that's different than assuming the role of the men of a mentor of a formal mentor, a formal shepherd. My moral development is not good enough to have that position. Which is why I never pursued it, okay? And that's a recognition. I've not mastered temptation yet. All right. And so I don't have the maturity level to assume that position of responsibility in the church and do not mistake. My giftedness do not do not conflict, my giftedness with spiritual. Maturity, they are not always the same thing. Almost at all. All right. The gin those are recognitions of who we are when we say, you're just fine. How you are in your sin. All of these distinctions were throwing them all. Away and saying they don't matter anymore. And it said we're gonna change what God says, and what God wants you to be in order to fit you, right? Where you're at right now. That's not the gospel the complaint and let me put exclamation point on that. From the Catholic perspective. It's take issue with whether or not there should be a all male priesthood. But if you do believe that there should be, and then you're next is to say that within that all-male priesthood, it absolutely does not matter in any way, shape or form if you have a strong pull to harm homosexual tendencies..
"jellicoe church" Discussed on The Dave Ramsey Show
"When you fill in your stuff, you pick out one you like or two or three and interview them. I don't care and go from there and sit down with someone and start to learn about mutual funds, how they work, what they are, how to invest. And I think it's good to have two buckets of investing here one with a five year mindset for buying a home and one with a forty year mindset for just becoming an believably wonderfully wealthy Aston is whether it's in Charlotte, North Carolina, high Aston. How are you. I'm doing great. How are you better than I deserve? How can I help. Well, I just recently about three months ago started the everydollar at love it I meeting with smart pro investor this week from my personal finances. So it's alright. But my question isn't on the individual side of things. It is on the church or non profit side of things. Those curious, if in your opinion or perspective is, are there ways for churches and nonprofits to invest for them financially. Well, some people call that being in Dowd where a university is typically a situation where you would see that happen, and it's where there's I large enough sum of money that the investment return off of that account. So you had a ten million dollar in Douaumont that had built up and that money is invested in the investing. The returns off that ten million dollars will operate. The thing in perpetuation in. So the the nest egg causes the nonprofit to live in perpetuation off of that. You most often see that in a a formal large. Nonprofit or in where you really see a lot as a university where they're endowing even a professorship. There's enough money in this one account that the income is providing is paying the salary of a professor in whatever field. Okay. And someone just felt like they wanted to make sure that university was able to pay that professor in perpetuation going forward and that kind of thing in the local church. I almost never see that. Especially the Jellicoe world. Okay. The Jellicoe church. Now, Catholicism has a lot of assets. The Vatican is very wealthy in, so that's a different a different mindset on it. But in evangelical ISM, the vast majority of the time, those of us sitting on that church border that elder board, which I've done many times would say the investment is not to be made in. In arth Lee investments, but instead in into people and causing people to meet Christ and grow in Christ, and that that's the investment that we wanna make. And so the only actual wealth that is retained as the paid for properties that thing operates in or the summer Tena earnings that are sitting there some savings to make sure that there's operational buffer, but, but in terms of building an actual endowment in that setting, I almost never hope that helps answer your question that puts this hour of the Dave Ramsey show in the books. We'll be back with you before you know it. In the meantime, remember there's ultimately only one way to financial peace and that's to walk daily with the prince of peace Christ. Screener we finish two thousand seventeen with fake as the fourth most downloaded podcast of the year. Thanks to all of you listening and helping us spread the word. Hey, if you've got questions about retirement, investing becoming an everyday millionaire, go bigger and broader with my man, Chris HOGAN on the Chris HOGAN show. I am excited to be able to talk to you all weekend and week out. We're going to focus on your calls and it's going to focus on building wealth, investing and how to become an everyday millionaire. Subscribe in the Chris HOGAN show wherever you listen to podcasts, hey, it's James producer of the Dave Ramsey show this episode is over, but check the episode notes for links to products and services. You've heard about during this episode. Thanks for listening.
"jellicoe church" Discussed on KQED Radio
"This is fresh air. And if you're just joining us, my guest is Linda Kaye Klein, her new book pure is about the evangelical purity movement and the abstinence movement. She was raised in that. And then broke away. So her new book is part memoir. But it's also many interviews with other women who were raised in the purity movement in the church, and how the movement affected them when you return to the United States after year Austrailia, you finally got a correct diagnosis you had Crohn's disease. It had progressed to the point where you needed like four surgeries for major surgeries. And you say, well, the doctor diagnosed you correctly was the first time you felt someone saw you and recognized her suffering, and I wasn't sure how to interpret that. Did. You mean saw you medically? Did you just mean in a larger sense like Sawyer? I think both I think both, you know medically, but also it felt so much deeper by that, you know, I had been performing happiness I had been performing health for so long and have someone look at me and say, wow, you are really sick. Aren't you? It felt certainly medical and and it also felt like something so much bigger. It felt like I could just let go of trying to be perfect. And I could just admit that I was hurting in a way. It sounds like that feeling was reinforced by the community because when you were sick after your surgeries you were asked to play Mary for alive Christmas manger, and you felt that now that you are sick. You are seen as a good girl again. And you're no longer criticized for looking to sexual can you talk a little bit more about that. Sure. Absolutely. You know, I was somebody who at least the way that. I felt was that. I was always on the edge of getting kicked out. You know, because I was very often sort of considered to sexual as illustrated by the many times that I would be pulled aside and talk to you about various ways in which people considered me, you know, floating or because I talked to talk to the guys a lot as I talked to everyone. I have a problem with that. Talking too much. And it wasn't until I was really quite sick. That all of a sudden it felt like I was being treated very differently. You know, nobody was pulling me aside and saying that I was stumbling block or a danger to the boys and men, you know, on the contrary I would go to church on the days that I was not too weak to go to church, and I would be wearing the same. You know, skirts and dresses that I would wear when I was well, and nobody was pulling me aside for them. You know, instead people were telling me that I looked beautiful you know, that they were. So delighted to see me. And then I was cast as Mary I remember being like what me. You want me to be Mary? I'm the last person would have been cast as Mary earlier, you know, because you know, I know who was cast as Mary earlier there were these sort of saintly women that I certainly didn't feel that anyone considered me to be despite the fact that I was utterly and absolutely obsessed with Christianity and a deep deep deep deep Christian. And I remember thinking, oh, I'm finally who you want me to be, you know, I'm weak, and that makes me not to sexual in your is. It makes me not to. I'm not breaking my gender expectations by speaking out too much. You know, so on I and I don't want to be this person. You know, I'm finally her, and I'm finally realizing I don't wanna be her. So your conclusion that being weak and being sick is what one you approval. You realize I don't wanna be that person. That's not what I want approval for. And that's one of the reasons why you left the event Jellicoe church. But there was another reason to pertaining to your youth. Pastor who was accused of work. When I was a senior in high school. So this is while he was living abroad in Australia. I learned that my youth pastor at the time in the us was convicted of child enticement with the intent to have sexual contact with a twelve year old girl under his care in our youth group. And I also learned that he had been dismissed from two other evangelical institutions previously after having admitted to after being accused of having done essentially the same thing to girls in those communities as well. And that information. Was horrifying. You know, both the fact that it happened in my community, and the fact that it had happened before and that he had been quietly moved along in a way that allowed for it to happen in my community exposed to me the potential for institutional systemic abuse, which was deeply disturbing to me at the time. Did he continues to be did he preached purity and abstinence? Absolutely. And it triggered me to leave. And it woke me up to the difference between my faith and the institution that I had also put faith in. So so you feel like you left the institution of the church, but maintained your faith. That's exactly right. Yeah. I had had faith in both. I had had faith in God. And Christianity, and I had also had faith in an institution and that day. I lost faith in the institution. So after deciding that you were leaving the evangelist church, and you're done with the purity movement, you went to Sarah Lawrence college. That's a pretty big steering in the other direction. I mean feminism the LGBTQ movement are the really strong on that campus. So it must have been quite quite a change for you. What was your reaction when you're surrounded by young feminists and gay people and people who identify as trans gender queer? You know, first of all the first thing is that I actually didn't realize that that's what I was going into. I grew up in a world where we had never heard of Sarah Lawrence before I found Sarah Lawrence at the public library, one of those giant college books and fell in love with the way that their brochures talked about education. So I really had no idea that I was going into a world that was so different than the one that I had just been living in, and you know, the truth is when I got there. The my first reaction was just feeling an inner sort of thrill, you know, here are these people who were so boldly being who they were you know, who were unapologetic who were claiming themselves in a way that I struggled to claim myself and had been taught not to claim many parts of me. And I was rather amazed by it. And watching them walk around was just incredible. For me, you know, watching the sort of confidence with which they they lived out their identities. And how did that affect you? And your identity. Oh, it made me want to be more fully myself as well. You know, it made me want to be more of an artist. It made me want to find more of a a clear sense of who. I was you know, it made me want to stop trying to be perfect. And and start trying to figure out who I was when I stopped smiling all the time, even when I was in tremendous pain, or even when I was suffering and destroy to figure out what my real feelings were. And what my real beliefs were. And who I really was underneath all of the performance and pretending and trying to be just right? If you're just joining us. My guest is Linda Kaye Klein, her new book pure as about the evangelical purity movement. We'll be right back. This is fresh air. This.
"jellicoe church" Discussed on KQED Radio
"This is fresh air. And if you're just joining us, my guest is Linda Kaye Klein, her new book pure is about the evangelical purity movement and the absence movement she was raised in that and then broke away. So her new book is part memoir. But it's also many interviews with other women who were raised in the purity movement in the van Jellicoe church, and how the movement affected them when you return to the United States after year and Australia. You finally got a correct diagnosis you had Crohn's disease. It had progressed to the point where you needed like four surgeries for major surgeries. And you say, well, the doctor diagnosed you correctly was the first time you felt someone saw you and recognized you're suffering. And I wasn't sure how to interpret that. Did. You mean saw you medically? Did you just mean in a larger sense? Like saw you. I think both I think both, you know medically, but also it felt so much deeper by then, you know, I had been performing happiness I had been performing health for so long and have someone look at me and say, wow, you are really sick. Aren't you? It felt certainly medical and and it also felt like something so much bigger at felt like I could just let go of trying to be perfect could just admit that. I was hurting in a way. It sounds like that feeling was reinforced by the community because when you were sick after your surgeries you were asked to play Mary for alive Christmas manger, and you felt that now that you are sick. You are seen as a good girl again. And you're no longer criticized for looking to sexual can you talk a little bit more about that. Sure. Absolutely. You know, I was somebody who at least the way that. I felt was that. I was always on the edge of getting kicked out. Because I was very often sort of considered to sexual as illustrated by the many times that I would be pulled aside and talk to you about various ways in which people considered me, you know, flirting or because I talked to I would talk to the guys a lot as I talked to everyone. I have a problem with that talking too much. And it wasn't until I was really quite sick. That all of a sudden it felt like I was being treated very differently. You know, nobody was pulling me aside and saying that I was a stumbling block or a danger to the boys man, you know, on the contrary I would go to church on the days that I was not too weak to go to church, and I would be wearing the same. You know, skirts and dresses that I would wear when I was well, and nobody was pulling me aside for them. You know, instead people were telling me that I looked beautiful you know, that they were. So delighted to see me. And then I was cast as Mary I remember. Remember being like, what me me you want me to be marri-? I'm the last person would have been cast as Mary earlier, you know, because I know who was cast as Mary earlier, they were these sort of stately, you know, women that I certainly didn't feel that anyone considered me to be despite the fact that I was utterly and absolutely obsessed with Christianity and a deep deep deep deep Christian. And I remember thinking, oh, I'm finally who you want me to be, you know, I'm weak, and that makes me not to sexual in your is. It makes me not to I'm not breaking my gender expectations. By speaking out too much. You know, so on I and I don't want to be this person. You know, I'm finally her, and I'm finally realizing I don't wanna be her. So your conclusion that being weak and being sick is what one you approval. You realize I don't wanna be that person. That's not what I want approval for. And that's one of the reasons why you left the evangelical church, but there was another reason to pertaining to your youth. Pastor who was accused of work. When I was a senior in high school. So this is while he was living abroad in Australia. I learned that my youth pastor at the time in the US was convicted of child enticement with the intent to have sexual contact with a twelve year old girl under his care in our youth group. And I also learned that he had been dismissed from two other evangelical institutions previously after having admitted to after being accused of having done essentially the same thing to girls in those communities as well. And that information. Was horrifying both the fact that it happened in my community, and the fact that it had happened before and that he had been quietly moved along in a way that allowed for it to happen in my community exposed to me the potential for institutional systemic abuse, which was deeply disturbing to me at the time. Did he continues to be did he preached purity and abstinence? Absolutely. And it triggered me to leave. And it woke me up to the difference between my faith and the institution that I had also put faith in. So you feel like he's left the institution of the church, but maintained your faith. That's exactly right. Yeah. I had had faith in both. I had had faith in God. And Christianity, and I had also had faith in an institution and that day. I lost faith in the institution. So after deciding that you were leaving the van Jellicoe church, and you're done with the purity movement, you went to Sarah Lawrence college. That's a pretty big steering the other direction. I mean feminism the LGBTQ movement are they're really strong on that campus. So it must have been quite quite a change for you. What was your reaction when you're surrounded by young feminists and gay people and people who identify as trans or gender queer? You know, first of all the first thing is that I actually didn't realize that that's what I was going into. I grew up in a world where we had never heard of Sarah Lawrence before I found Sarah Lawrence at the public library in one of those giant college books and fell in love with the way that their brochures talked about education. So I really had no idea that I was going into a world that was so different than the one that I had just been living in, and you know, the truth is when I got there. The my first reaction was just feeling an inner sort of thrill, you know, here are these people who were so boldly being who they were you know, who were unapologetic who were claiming themselves in a way that I struggled to claim myself and had been taught not claim many parts of me. And I was rather amazed by it. And watching them walk around was just incredible. For me, you know, watching the sort of confidence with which they they lived out their identities. And how does that affect you and your identity? Oh, it made me want to be more fully myself as well. You know, it made me want to be more of an artist. It made me want to find more of a a clear sense of who. I was you know, it made me want to stop trying to be perfect. And and start trying to figure out who I was when I stopped smiling all the time, even when I was in tremendous pain, or even when I was suffering and destroy to figure out what my real feelings were. And what my real beliefs were. And who I really was underneath all of the performance and pretending and trying to be just right? If you're just joining us. My guest is Linda Kaye Klein, her new book pure is about the evangelical purity movement. How old are you know, I'm thirty nine. What your relationship to church to any church, and how do you pray? How do you practice your faith? So I'm still very much a Christian. You know, that's not something that I always claimed when I first left evangelical ISM I thought that I was leaving Christianity. I saw those things as as one in the same. But you know, over the years, I have found that there are many Christianity's and in many different ways to practice Christianity. And so I still definitely strongly identify with the Christian, faith and have a very powerful spiritual life, which is I would say just as robust as it was when I was young it just looks different. So to answer your question about what it looks like, you know, I actually have a morning ritual where I wake up every morning, and I start out with doing some yoga stretches on my own which I consider it to be form of prayer. And sometimes there is actual prayer. This embedded into it. And then I journal for three pages, and that journaling sometimes looks like journaling and often looks like prayer and often moves in between those things, and then I sometimes do some meditation, and then just in general, I pray throughout the day. You know, it's it's such a part of me such a part of my life. So the spiritual life, you're describing is something very personal and very individual. Do. You miss having a community a church that you belong to. Well, I do actually join communities. I just do it differently than they used to. So I go on spiritual retreats with churches regularly, go to religious conferences regularly. You know, I I spend time with religious organizations on a regular basis. So I I'm continuously do these sort of longer deeper engagements with religious community, and I do actually have church I don't necessarily go every week. They're still a part of me that feels a little gun shy about going to church every week. But I actually have an amazing and beautiful church here in New York City that that I attend and that hosted my book launch, and I'm very grateful for it was your mother who brought you into evangelical Christianity when you left the evangelical church was your mother upset, and if she was did you feel guilty about making her upset by following your? New thinking and leaving the church. My mom was heartbroken when I left and Moreover, I think scared, you know, for my mom, the fact that I was a Christian was her very favorite thing about me. She literally told me that as did my father on separate occasions. They both told me their favorite thing about me was my Christianity when I was younger. And so, you know, when I left I lost, my parents favorite thing about me. And and I think my mom feared that I would no longer be with her in heaven. That she would have to spend eternity. Without me. And that she would look down and see me in eternal damnation. And and know that there was nothing. She could do to save me. So there were a lot of tear filled conversations between she and I and and it took her very longtime to trust that I was still a Christian. And and that I that she would still see me in heaven. You know, which is something that she comes to more and more peace about every day. And that at this point, I'm feeling her in a very different place. I feel her at a at a place of peace around me. And and my salvation, which I I'm very glad to see because I know it was just tearing her up well indicate client, I wanna thank you so much for talking with us. Thank you. Linda Kaye Klein is the author of the new book pure tomorrow on fresh air. We'll talk about what we learned from the Paul Manafort trial about how he set up a front group and use laundered money to pay Washington lobbyists..
"jellicoe church" Discussed on The Takeaway
"I don't think so. I'm in a situation, at least in Salvador is quite dire. It is very violent and just to give you an illustration of that there are so called red zones, and I'll Salvador physically neighborhoods that are off limits. Now I went to one of those neighborhoods only because I was visiting a church and churches are somewhat safe ground, especially the Jellicoe church, and I went with a fixer which is somebody base. Szekely Salvadoran reporter who was helping me navigate. And when we enter this neighborhood, he said to me, roll down your window, which surprised me because this entire time that I've been in all Salvador, we had our windows rolled up. And I said why he said because they wanna see your face and they wanna make sure that you're not an enemy and that you're not from a rival gang. Now that just speaks to the degree of lawlessness and insecurity and also Vidor. And at the same level, the economy's is really bad. I mean, I talked to so many people who are making less than ten dollars a day. One woman in particular name is Edith makes five fifty a day and see is a live in housekeeper and nanny. So if you put those together, the economy in violence, I don't think that we're gonna see a decrease in my Gration from the northern triangle, which is of Honduras and Quanta Malla anytime soon. When you mentioned e Tovar Rodriguez and she had some pretty. Powerful stuff to say this. The immediate eighty see sometimes the pastor says, you tried twice already and if God didn't give you the opportunity to go, it's because he doesn't want you there. But then I look at the reality here, unemployment, the lack of freedom because of the gangs. When I look at what's happening in Salvador, I feel motivated to try again, this is a very religious woman. She has one free day a week and she spends that entire day at church. So in some ways she is, she's saying, I'm defying the will of God and that just speaks to the desperation that people feel see feels like if she stays, she has zero future. Emily green is a freelance journalist based in Mexico City. I'm Lee, thanks so much for talking with me about this. Thanks for having me on the show..
"jellicoe church" Discussed on WREK
"So in terms of the church one of the interesting things you know i think this is kind of true across all all major religions right that women have as a secondary status women are not allowed to be preachers obviously in the roman catholic church in orthodox and conservative judaism in islam in hinduism with rare exceptions i for the first time in the last couple of the in the last decade or so you start to see like a few a few hundred hindu women preachers or in some islamic countries there are women who are being ordained or as a religious leaders in protestantism because of the reformation you know that everyone can be their own priests it's different that women can be religious leaders so in the old line protestantism about one fourth of senior religious leaders or churches with a sole ordained a preacher are women but in the van jellicoe church it's much lower it's it's only nine percent now the event jellicoe church was not always so right wing and in fact there are more progressive evangelical churches kind of in the northern us in the minnesota area but kind of the right wing white white evangelicals they for very much the base of the republican party there over twenty percent of the american population overall now the nineteen seventies the southern baptists are overtaken by kind of a right wing revolt the story of that we see often told about you know the reagan revolution is supported by this kind of like religious revival it's actually much more complicated than that in the late nineteen seventies the carter administration decided to go after the evangelical churches because after the desegregation of schools busing that was begun in the nineteen seventies in a lot of areas of the country white families started to send children to parochial schools so essentially they were trying to create these white educational enclaves and so the carter administration was trying to revoke their nonprofit status because they were engaging in in systematic segregation and this is actually what really kind of fed into the right the right wing christian revolt that helped power ronald reagan to victory this is very important to recognize because again here you have the the confluence of whiteness and property right because it's a where neighborhoods are where white neighborhoods are situation as as well as the production of oppressive gender norms you know so by the.
"jellicoe church" Discussed on Serious Inquiries Only
"Who say that they developed it but it developed out of the i guess culmination of x day ministry to conversion therapy where you're you're still dealing with some of the psychological issues and you're you're pulling god into it and then you've got repaired therapy which really delve into the psychology which is based a lot on what freud believed was that there was a disconnection between men and their father or disconnection between women and their mothers and so the the idea is to repair that broken connection between the child and the parent and then providing them proper gender role models so that they could be repaired so they could they could be what they were supposed to be democ cents yeah i mean no but i i understand what you're saying yeah so so it's really all about fixing the mind in that the belief that there's something wrong with your sexual orientation and that it it's there was a mental break somewhere along the way so we did believe that in exit ministry we did pick up that whole freudian idea of broken relationships however are repair for that like it was for anything else in the jellicoe church as you just have to pray enough you have to trust god enough you have to believe do accountability memorize the bible in and then it will fix it self because as you submit to godless things will be repaired conversion therapy and repaired if there be started to kinda replace god with psychotherapy so it it evolved over time and just are directors who still have a good friend of mine wrote a book called x out talks about how would levin action after i left he said i just kept going from one thing to the next thing when conversion therapy came up i started bringing psychologist so it would it would you know show.