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"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Unholy
"Levy of channel twelve in tel aviv. And i'm jonathan. Freedland the guardian in london and we are unholy from ketchup outcasts to jews on the news. Except this week. It is three jews on the news. Count even better. We are joined all the way from the united states by jeffrey goldberg. Jeff goldberg editor in chief of the atlantic unholy jeff. Welcome to is my name unholy. Jeff we are the unholy jewish trinity as what he meant to say i think levy goldberg and friedland. If we if we don't make in the pod cubs ca podcast business. We have got a future in accountancy figure the possibility gastroenterology. Yeah we're very yeah. It's very diverse. It's a very diverse group of jews if this If we were still living in a normal world jeff we would actually be just sitting all of us in the same place somewhere in a cool place in washington or tel aviv. Or london gossiping about the world. Complaining about politics having A competition about whose political system is more problematic right. And who's a better. Ju ju don't forget the imports. Derek question one. We asking the question to elliott left. That's it. i don't have anything. I'm in tel aviv. I got vaccinations where you got without the restaurant setting. I think we can still gossip about politics. Although i do feel slightly the third wheel here because the big dynamic has been between your two cities this week with the whole psycho drama or call when and bb sitting there by the phone feeling neglected and abandoned and finally the cool came through. Yeah i i have before everything. I wanna i want you guys to listen to. How our version of Snl eric Are satire program Made fun of this yesterday. Basically be trying to call biden biden not answering the phone until bb picks up. The hosts phone. His name is trying to call biden. Let's listen even someone who doesn't know. Hebrew.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"You know someone like that to bail us out but you can get your index card to answer this if you need to but which i imagine you might you might need to. What does that say about journalism and some of these flagship. I mean truly historically great. And i mean to be blowing smoke but the atlantic you know its roots. Go back you know. It's like the republic in the washington. Post has been seven long and and some of the founders of the atlantic. He can brag about this in your index card. Answer like mention some of the names of the people who were there at the founding of the atlantic in your answer ralph waldo. Emerson was our camera sensor dude that he's a big deal that guy you've had him on the show i've had i quote from a guy. Now he said his name was ralph. Waldo the majors waldo of all different guy. But what does it say about the state of journalism. And what does it say about the independence of journalism when you have multiple flagship outlets like you in the washington post and others. That are that are kind of i. Don't want to say propped up. That's a very. I think you can use by sort of a bottomless pit of funds. If necessary well a it's not a bottomless pit. Fun because just like jeff bezos. Learn powell jobs has been very clear about this This is the for profit. Side of emerson collective. Which is her. You know the organization that she founded And there's an expectation on the part of emerson that we're for profit business that will pay for itself and make a profit. I actually view them. I mean i think. I think people like this is not an index card is actually how i feel. I really feel like jeff bezos and lowering powell jobs just named name two people. There's many others are serving doing a public service a. and doing it by being a bridge to A stable independent future yet yeah. The disruptions of technology and the decline of the ad market and. Everything have put a lot of publications in pretty dangerous positions right They've come in to be bridges to An helpers toward a future in which we can be truly financially independent and growing based on our direct relationship with millions of our readers and So this is a great. It's a great gift to have her standing with the atlantic And being committed in generational kind of way to the atlantic. But i mean as much as she doesn't want the atlantic to be a nonprofit organization supported through other people's largest. I don't want it either. I really believe that what we make here. And what other quality publications make is worth paying for. And i think that our readers should take out subscriptions so that so that we are supported independent of of of anybody else's kindness or charity or selflessness. Or however you want to call it but but if we don't get across this bridge that's the danger because you don't want to have to rely on other people forever to the float the boat and so and so i i. That's that's the way i think of it. And i think that's i don't want to speak for her but i think that's the way she thinks of it and i know that she has that same confidence that i have that If you make something that's special you make something that's quality that it won't be impossible to commence large numbers of people and we're finding out that it's not impossible to convince large numbers of people to to pay you for access to the to the to the stories that you're making because a lot of what's out drunk a lot. Well you know. we're we're an interesting. I mean i know this is not like on the media But or anything but we're an interesting phase where three or four or five six years ago. There are a lot of I think the cliche digital upstarts right um and they were gonna lap the port unquote legacy media right. The new york times was in trouble. Remember was taking loans from carlos slim and everyone starts like buzzfeed. yeah The whole the whole range of i mean by the way great people great stories etc but but there is a solution that they were the future and the legacy publications like the atlantic near time. So on where we're the past. But it's been a little bit of a tortoise and a hare kind of situation where some of those kinds of places some of them are not even in business anymore. Some them are having difficulties. And you know These are not trade secrets. We've talked about this in the last month. I mean since we launched our digital Fourteen months ago fifteen months ago we signed up more than four hundred thousand new subscribers paying a on average fifty dollars for a subscription So we're kind of like the tortoise digest just every month just you know collecting new subscribers in and doing our work and we're not a tortoise in terms of the impact of the work or the reach of the work but as a business proposition. You know all we. All we're doing is just accumulating subscribers in china you know give them good journalism and everybody else's Looking for other formulas. So i feel i feel good about where in a places like the new yorker are the washington post the new york times where the atlantic is. I feel. I feel pretty good about where they all are. Speaking great journalism. Try once again to get to your article in which you wrote. I gave you entree before you today. I you know. I i i rambled sometimes meander. No no no. No no i wanted to give you my series of journalism joy very much. I'm glad you're this article in which you have people saying that. Donald trump referred to americans who died in war who died in battle as suckers and losers. And my first question is when your source john. Kelly said these things to you know. Stop what you what you didn't like. It always does one of your prosecutor trick. No no no you can get away with that in. Yeah you won't say who your source was obviously well. Why would i ever say who my sources are. Because it's just us it's just you would make in our home. Mrs. gingrich right but i guess my first question before we analyze. We talked about psychology a lot already. Yeah but when when one or more people were telling you about this language used by the president. What was your reaction. Non surprise yeah And there were several people and obviously this was i. It was accumulating data over time. But look i i recognize a break point my own understanding of trumpism. In american politics i dated exactly to the moment when donald trump said of john mccain. I like people who aren't captured. And my you know. Washington brain know establishments thinking brain said. Well that's it for trump. That's what everybody i mean. I you know that's it You don't survive that. And then he gets more popular now like well. I obviously don't understand something about american politics So from that moment. And i and i i was so deep i i buy or john mccain. I knew him fairly well. But i knew him well. Enough and that that s appalling in version of what you know being an american is you know the selflessness and sacrifice that the pow in vietnam represented that. I i couldn't even understand. I couldn't understand the level of perversity and then you know so in other words. Nothing from that point on really has truly surprised me. I'm sure i've expressed you know. Can't believe he just said that or i can't believe he just did that. But nothing is really surprising. And you know the suckers and losers those two quotes Are not the most surprising thing in in that piece. It's it's to me. It was his demand to include. Wounded veterans amputees from military parades quote. Nobody wants to see that. I mean that. Is i. If i'm going to go to acknowledge being surprised by something. I'll acknowledge being surprised by that. Because that is an actual anti human response to..
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Stay Tuned with Preet
"To get shopping. That's a e. r. o. guard. Jeffrey goldberg is my guest. This week he's the editor in chief of the atlantic magazine. Today we talk about the role of the atlantic and the modern media environment and the state of american diplomacy in the middle east the dawn of the biden presidency. jeff goldberg. thanks for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. I wasn't going to mention this but sometimes in the chit chat before we hit the record button. I get the idea for a question and before we get to the magazine. And you're writing and your editing and everything else to do explain to the public. What you had for breakfast. Yes i can. I had leftover thai fried rice. Because i was from dinner last night. Yeah which is pretty good because it's not from dinner four nights ago. We'd be having enough for lunch. Fry how much. How much did you by. How many meals is this going to go for. I actually tried to eat small meals so them do. Intermittent eating intermittent eating at two hundred calories Three hours or whatever the thing is but i It's one of those big round black tubs of you know whatever you know. Rice people didn't know that we've converted this to a food. Show you do on your show. I've listened to it. But i don't know not usually what we do. Remember you mentioned king show. No i did true. So let's talk about some of your writing. And i don't know if you get asked about this a lot but one of your great works of all time and i don't know if you'll guess which article i'm going to ask about and i will later ask about the suckers and losers article but the one i want to begin with is a great piece. You did back in two thousand twelve. Can you guess the peace. Not at all but i have very bad short and long term memory and also medium. That's helpful for reporting. I write everything down. I write everything down. It is the piece you wrote in two thousand twelve in the fall of two thousand. Twelve seminal piece on the relationship on the unrequited love between christopher christie and the boss. Bruce springsteen because. And we'll get into this. You are a huge. Bruce springsteen fan as i am and that article was especially special to me in the fall. Two thousand twelve where you essentially right. How christie's one of the greats bruce springsteen fans of all time and he was then the governor of new jersey and bruce springsteen didn't so much as acknowledge him didn't like him disparaged him and christie would still sort of in a forlorn way. Go every concert sing along to every song. And he got no attention from bruce and the reason special to me and they got to gloat a little bit. I was the us attorney at the time and that year in the winter of twenty twelve. I went to a concert in which i liked to brag about this. Give me a shout. Stage and here was the governor of the garden. State himself being shunned by bruce. How fun was article to write it. Well i got to see chris christie dance and new other words not not everybody not everybody gets to see i went to. I went to a concert with him and I got to watch him. He was sitting right in front of sitting right behind him. You know when we were there and he danced like hungry hearts. Maybe i don't remember what he was dancing to. But it was it was memorable You know that was at a point when i had Let's say more sympathy for chris christie than i have today i mean i still find him to be a fascinating person And obviously a great deal of in a lot of ways. But i- i questioned some of his life choices over the past four years but no it was. It was interesting. Because i had a very fun. Time with i went down to trenton one snowy day and we sat in his office and four out. We had i think what was it. Used to be known as a platter. Party we would. We would just spent he would just play. We play bruce songs Maybe that's not. What platter party is. anyway. I have vague recollection. That's what it means. But we just play songs and talk about bruce and argue about it and That's a lot of fun. I someone from my demographic my outer barrel out of borough bridge and tunnel demographic interesting thing about a and you'll you'll you'll recognize as the interesting thing about christie in a lot of conservative leaning. Bruce fans is that they perform this mental trick where they discount entirely bruce's politics meaningless in just enjoyed the music. But i had very hard to separate out. Bruce's music from bruce's worldview or his understanding of america and the american dream in so on and so that that became a at first and interesting argument with christie and then kind of a boring argument because You can't deny you. Quantum is saying christie saying you know i compartmentalize and i wonder sometimes this conservative and progressive divide in the country. It must be a little bit hard to be a conservative. If you like music because you'll have a lot of bands. Yeah who are copacetic. with your world view. If you're a conservative and you do you have do you actually have will you have you have scott ao. Although he doesn't sing so that's makes it hard to be in a band. yeah lee. Greenwood lee greenwood green. I like that song except it. Has this annoying grammatical tick in it. S i'm proud to go about this..
Cindy McCain endorses Biden: He's only candidate 'who stands up for our values'
"Cindy McCain the widow of Republican Senator and Republican presidential candidate John McCain Cindy McCain is endorsing Joe Biden for President Mrs McCain. Writing. Tonight. Quote my husband John Lived by a code country I we republicans. Yes. But Americans foremost. There's only one candidate in this race who stands up for our values as a nation. And that is Joe Biden she says quote Joe and I don't always agree on the issues and I know he and John Certainly had some passionate arguments. But Joe is a good and honest man he will lead us with dignity quote. He will be a commander and chief that the finest fighting force in the history of the world can depend on because he knows what it is like to send a child off to fight. Cindy McCain's decision. Tonight was reportedly informed in part by recent reporting the Atlantic magazine from reporter. Jeffrey. Goldberg that President Trump had repeatedly called. US service members who were hurt or killed in battle quote losers and suckers. Again, that dramatic endorsement tonight from the widow of Senator John
Trump wants Fox News journalist fired over reports on his alleged U.S. troops insults
"Was also the host of CNN's Reliable sources. Program joins us to talk about what you uncovered about the evolution and impact of the Trump Fox partnership. But first we're going to get his take on some of today's political news and welcome Brian Stelter. Good to have you with us. Hey, great. Grateful to be here. Thank you so much. I'd like to begin by talking about the article by Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor in chief of Atlantic whom you had on your program on CNN's reliable sources, just on Sunday. And just for some background for listeners who may not know about this. Trump is alleged to have called those who died in World War one losers and suckers. They were buried in a cemetery outside of Paris and supposedly Again. Allegedly. He didn't want to honor the dead for fear his hair would be messed up. Jennifer Griffin of Fox News has backed up the story and confirmed it in the White House is denied it. They've given the title of your book called it a Hoax. And Trump said it never happened, but I want to get to here is Trump wants girlfriend fired, he said. Fox News is gone. This is maybe change the relationship with Fox. First of all your thoughts about that, but also About what Goldberg told you, Which is this is just the tip of the iceberg. I do expect more reporting in the coming days, including quite possibly from Bob Woodward's book. I Hate to start out talking about some other author. But I'll tell you what. There's a lot of anticipation for Woodward's book Rage, which comes out next Tuesday. And I think one of the reasons why Jeffrey Goldberg published his story when he did. Was perhaps because he thinks what word has some similar reporting. So look, we will see we will find out when that book begins to leak, But I think that the Atlantic and other outlets Have Provided Mohr evidence of a pattern of the president, disparaging veterans and disrespecting the military. Some of this is in the president's own words, including yesterday. When he comments on people at the top of the military just wanting to start wars. Making basically calling them or profiteers. No, I think what the president has done by attacking Fox on this story. By saying reported over Griffin should be fired because she was able to corroborate part of Jeffrey Goldberg report. Is that he's working the refs. He doesn't want news on Fox News. He only wants propaganda. So one minute he will attack a reporter at Fox or complain about Anchorage, Fox, and the next minute he will promote Pete Hegseth, Jeannine Pirro. I'll call into Sean Hannity show her fox and friends. It shows that he doesn't want journalism on the air. He wants pro trump opinion in orderto keep his base is solid as a rock. Well, he's going against Ah, much respected reporter here who has had a great deal of praise for her integrity on the fact that matter is Fox kind of threw her under the bus, didn't they? I think Fox did not sufficiently. Promote and tout its own reporting. So once Griffin had corroboration for some of Goldberg's account, she did go on the air once and talk about it. A couple other shows, acknowledged it. But the dominant theme of the coverage was still trumps denials. And I would understand that they'd emphasize the denials. The president was known to be a proud on his truth Teller, someone who never told a lie. But this president has proven that his words are meaningless. By his own actions. He's country to himself all the time and lied to the public constantly about the pandemic and other matters. Soto lead with the president's denial seems faulty to me. Especially when your own reporter from your own outlet. Has backed up some of the reporting. But again, this just shows the tug of war between Fox and inside Fox between news and opinions, and I think it shows that opinions almost always winning. Well, let's talk, though, about what has come out of this controversy, which is the whole validity of unnamed sources. There have been certainly a lot of accusations that many do not corroborate the story. In fact, John Bolton's name has been mentioned on frequent occasions as well as other Trump supporters who claim that he never said what has been alleged here. On yet you have Carl Bernstein. I think on your show, saying with Watergate under Nixon, they were close to 200 sources that were simply a name. So it's the nature of ice floes reporting and journalism to a great extent, sometimes to have on named sources. But Let's get to the heart of it. I mean, this has been certainly stirring around this controversy. It absolutely has. And I think it is great to have a chance to talk about anonymous sourcing because it is so often misunderstood, and reporters don't do enough to explain why and how we rely on anonymous sourcing number one. The source's heir, never anonymous to the reporters and to their bosses. You know, when I'm using anonymous sources for CNN, at least one of my bosses has to know if the story is very sensitive than multiple people are going to know the identity of this person. And we're going to have a conversation about why they're credible and why we're taking their word and why we're publishing it. You know that kind of checks and balances system is what journalism needs. And what the public needs to know happens so they can have more confidence in the reporting. You know, with with regards to the Atlantic, I think We also know a couple of things from Jeffrey Goldberg record number one. He has quoted John Kelly on the record before he's quoted James Mattis on the record before he clearly has journalistic relationships with some of these retired generals. And that's helpful to know if you're wondering who his sources might be for this story.
Reporter Jeffrey Goldberg Addresses Trump’s “Loser” Remarks, Talks Using Anonymous Sources
"It has been a rough Labor Day weekend and the trump. White House where officials are absolutely full out freaking out about Thursday. Night's report in the Atlantic that trump had characterized Americans who died in war losers and suckers trump has spent the past four days repeatedly nine the story marshalling all kinds of people to. Come forward to knock it down he insisted today the quote an animal would say thing that the White House trotted out figures like Sarah Sanders who we know is lied to reporters multiple times to claim the report isn't true because they were there when trump didn't say the terrible things he allegedly said take they're hoping you don't think about that formulation too much. The main problem for the White House here is that the evidence supporting the story is pretty obvious and clear and almost overwhelming to anyone not inside the trump reality distortion bubble. The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg reported that trump cancelled a visit to an American military cemetery near Paris back in two thousand eighteen partially because he worried his hair would become disheveled in the rain and partially because he did not respect the American war dead interred there. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the schedule visit trump said, why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers in a separate conversation on the same trip trump preferred to the more than eighteen hundred marines who lost their lives at Bellawood as suckers for getting killed. Now, the sources in the story are anonymous you know anonymous sources are not as. Good. As name sources when you're evaluating something, but it doesn't mean that the claims came in on some anonymous tip line that no one knows where they came from. It means a reporter in this case, Jeffrey Goldberg spoke to people directly interviewed them and has agreed not to identify them in the story Jeffrey. Goldberg, will be here with me to talk about that in just a moment. His initial story has now been confirmed in part or in its entirety by reporters at. All okay. Remarkably a correspondent at Fox News included in that lineup whom trump promptly called on the network to fire. Some of those corroborating stories included even more damning details about the president like this one from the Washington Post quote the president told senior advisors that he didn't understand why the US government plays such value on finding soldiers missing in action because they had performed poorly and gotten caught and deserve what they got and this from the New York Times people familiar Mr Trump's private conversations saying he has long scorned those who served in Vietnam as being too dumb to have gotten out of it as he did through medical diagnosis of bone spurs in his heels. Back in two thousand, nineteen trump's former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen testified the trump admitted to faking those bonds first telling cone quote you think I'm stupid I wasn't going to Vietnam. There's even more evidence that trump view soldiers at stupid or suckers Mary trump the president's knees wrote in a recent book that trump and threatened to disown his eldest son if don Jr. joined the military. She also says that her own Father Fred trump junior was mocked by donald trump because he fred trump junior decided to join the US air. National. Guard quote my father was frequently ridiculed for his career choices and disparaged for serving our country by both his father and by his brother Donald. Then, there's the fact that pretty much none of trump's top military officials past and present are backing the president up. I mean you really can't find anyone who's stepping forward to defend his character save he would never say anything like that they aren't disputing the story instead that's been left talking heads and former flax and loyalists. That's maybe not a huge surprise because trump allegedly said about all US servicemembers, hues very closely to what he said back in two thousand fifteen about one particular veteran Senator John McCain. War here or euro he's a war hero years he's a war hero presumes captured. I like people that weren't captured. Okay I hate to. John. McCain was prisoner of war in Vietnam for five years host. Donald Trump avoided that war had a different experience in an interview in the nineties. He characterized his efforts to avoid transmitted diseases while sleeping with numerous women as quote, my personal Vietnam. An. Event with Union members today Joe Biden lambasted the president's comments an invoked zone Sun Beau who served in Iraq and then died from a brain tumor in two thousand fifteen. Those of served. Risk, their lives even gave their lives, our nation losers suckers. He's our heroes. Tell you something. My Bowl wasn't loser. For A sucker if that's I, talk about our veterans, you have no business being president of the United States of America. What's being entered into the record here to take a step back and look at all the evidence about Donald Trump. Shocking. Morally offensive. It's not surprising. It's about what we have come to expect. But. One big question that keeps pulling on my shoulders. Why are we learning about this now? What does it mean that we are? For more on that and the fallout from his incredible reporting joined by Jeffrey Goldberg He's the Editor in chief of the Atlantic and I jeff, maybe I start a little bit with. The reaction to this story from the White House you. There are stories that come out all the time about the president that are fairly scandalous incredibly scandalous. And one time they said it's fake news and they swatted away or the new cycle moved on, they do seem particularly freaked out. About this reporting. An particularly intent on attacking it what what is your sort of reading of the last three or four days of their reaction? Well he's a good question. First thing I would say is that. This is not an attack on these are not reports of an attack on site immigrants or black people or or something like that we expect from Donald Trump and something that his base might actually help him with his base. This could hurt him with his with his base You know the the the second thing is I. Think there's a lot of. Nervousness in the White House and again I won't I'm not commenting on anything having to do with my sourcing or other reporter's saw sourcing Fox. Washington Post whatever. I'm you know there's a there's a deep hostility and mistrust in the White House of. Current and former generals people who lead the military. We saw that today Donald Trump did something that I. I've never seen before he attacked his own a service chiefs. He attacked his own leaders of the Armed Forces on call? Them. I mean, even in the even in this sort of an Tasma, we are twenty twenty race that's still something but I think it has to do with the fact that This is the kind of accusation that sounds believable in also goes directly to. A core constituency that Donald trump obviously needs to Keep energized come November. Yeah we we should note that there's there's been polling of of active duty servicemembers in which he's he's underwater with them There's been an interesting sort of officer enlisted split, but he's been losing ground even with a enlisted members. He's gone for a net positive nine points and Net net net negative twelve points. You can see that there. That's the latest military times pulling. You just mentioned what he said today was pretty remarkable. Briefly, sort of like channeling kind of like left anti-imperialism vis-a-vis his own service chiefs although it's completely like made up and fabricated because he. In the next breath, he's constantly bragging about how big the Pentagon budget is and how Raytheon is making off like a bandit. So but I wanNA play that clip just to get your response to it take a listen to what he said. I'm not saying that military in love with me to soldiers are the top people in the Pentagon probably aren't because they want to do nothing but fight wars so that all of those wonderful companies that make the bombs and make the planes and everything else they. Happy. But we're getting out of the endless wars you know how we're doing. But here's the thing Jeff. They're not this drives me insane the where we have expanded our footprint, we've expanded bombings all the theaters, and this is an absolute con-. This idea that the Great Antiwar Donald Trump has some revolt on his hands on the generals. As, you will know the generals are usually more hesitant to go to war than not usually often more has to go to war than than civilian leaders for some obvious reasons. No, this was remarkable i. mean he sort of channeling. Start Sixty Bob Dylan lyrics here I pointed out on a show media today it's It's quite remarkable given that tomorrow there's a pretty good chance that he'll brag about how much money he's spending on military hardware, and of course, as you know, he's deeply transactional in love it when when foreign countries by our military equipment. So if you're looking for consistency in that particular clip, you're you're looking forward it in the wrong place it doesn't make sense in any kind of traditional understanding of of politics.
Trump continues counterattack on military comments
"Joining us now is Ginger Gibson Deputy Washington digital editor at NBC News thanks for joining US Ginger. Back. Let's talk about some of the fallout from these comments that were attributed to president trump about the military. There's a story in the Atlantic by Jeffrey. Goldberg and he tells a couple of stories. One of them was from two thousand eighteen when he was going to visit a World War One cemetery in France that got canceled in that article, he said that you know, why should I go to that cemetery is filled with losers. He called some of the Marines at died suckers and the rest of the article goes on to. Talk about how he always didn't get along with John McCain words it. He says there, how would these comments played out? What's been the reaction to this so far? Let's start just from the beginning and make clear that trump has vehemently denied the descriptions and accounts that are in that article, some of his aides who were with them on that trip to France have. Also. Denied the accounts that are in this article insisting that he is a supporter of the troops but putting that aside, the descriptions that are in this article are just really detrimental to the president and to the positions that he's taken as someone who is such a supporter in cheerleader for American troops and I think what's clear here too is that he's not talking about. Military members all of these being losers who are who are actively engaged in warfare. He's talking about the ones who've been captured who have died who have been injured sort of people. He thinks that let the best be got them at war, which is really at odds with sort of what we as Americans view the way that people who sacrificed in our military arm. But the interesting thing with all of this is that there was not just the Atlantic there was other news agencies that independently confirmed some of this stuff fox. News Jennifer Griffin she also confirmed a lot of these details. and. As you mentioned the president obviously still saying that he denies all of this stuff but there are a lot of people that have confirmed the so far. That's right. We have seen other news organizations provide some confirmation of the remarks, the losers in the suckers remarks, and you know there are some aides that could have disputed this for example, General Kelly at one point in the article describes an exchange with the president at Arlington Cemetery General Kelly Son who died in Iraq is buried is not heard from General Kelly disputing this account. So there are those who say that there's of evidence. At this is an accurate account and on a political standpoint, we've seen Democrats really tried to run with this fighting campaign was quick to start having veterans come out and criticize the president for this remarks, Vice President Biden, himself who son Beau Biden who has since died of cancer and Iraq they cut advertisements very quickly describing the the remarks that are in this this. So it was clear from at least their vantage point that they saw this as a pretty devastating account of the president, and as you mentioned, you know the president has been a pretty vocal cheerleader of the military throughout. His presidency. So we'll see if this damages him in any way politically but we'll just leave it at that for now
Trump reportedly called service members "losers" and "suckers"
"Again in the Atlantic and it sets the scene all the way back in two thousand eighteen when trump was in. Paris he was supposed to visit a cemetery for soldiers who died in war and if you'll remember he didn't actually end up going because he said the helicopter couldn't fly because it was raining. And there was a big deal about that obviously because he was afraid of a little rain. He also tried to claim that the secret service wouldn't drive but Jeffrey Goldberg says neither claim was true. In reality he says trump rejected the idea of visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain and because he did not believe it was important honor American war dead in that is according to four people with firsthand knowledge of discussion that day. He goes on to say in a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit. Trump said quote why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers. It continues in a separate conversation on the same trip trump referred to more than eighteen hundred marines who lost their lives at Bellawood as quote suckers for getting killed. Bellawood was apparently consequential battle in American history I don't remember it off the top of my head, but I'm just reading what's in the article here. And it says that in that same trip talking about world war. One trump asked who are the good guys in this war? He also said that he didn't understand why the United States would intervene on the side of the allies. Now you'll remember he said this about John McCain back in two thousand fifteen but lost. So I, never liked him as much after that because I don't like interest. But but Frank Franklin. We get to He. He's war hero. He's a war. He's a war hero presumes capture. I like people that weren't captured. Okay. I hate to. The article says that trump had remained fixated on McCain in that when he died back in August twenty, eighteen trump told his senior staff this time according to three sources with direct knowledge of quote we going to support that losers funeral end quote and that he became furious when he saw flags lowered to half-staff saying quote what the F. Are we doing that for guy was a f Ing Loser The White House denies this whole report by the way saying, then the Anti Yadda trump's supported the military more than any president. The article continues according to sources with knowledge of the president's views. He seems to genuinely not understand why Americans treat former prisoners of war with respect. Nor does he understand why pilots who are shot down in combat are honored by the military on at least two occasions since becoming president according to three sources with direct knowledge of his views trump referred to former president George h.w Bush as a quote loser for being shot down by the Japanese. This is where it starts to really get cruel on memorial day twenty, seventeen trump went with then department of Homeland Security Secretary John, Kelly to Arlington Cemetery. The article says the two men were set to visit section sixty, the fourteen acre area of the cemetery that it is burial ground for those killed in America's most recent wars. Kelly son Robert is buried in section sixty according to sources with knowledge of this visit trump while standing by Robert Kelly's grave turned directly to John Kelly in said quote I don't get it what was in it for them. Kelly said he originally thought trump was making a ham handed reference to these selflessness of America's all volunteer force. But later he came to realize that trump simply does not understand non transactional life choices. This is coming from one of Kelly's friends who Goldberg says a retired four. Star General. This friend says quote he can't fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself. He just thinks that anyone who does anything when there's no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker. There's no money in serving the nation trump can't imagine anyone else's pain. That's why he would say this to the father of a fallen marine on Memorial Day in the cemetery where he's buried. It goes on to talk about how trump is basically used the military as props how he thinks they answer only to not the constitution as evidenced by his gassing of peaceful protesters in officer who had firsthand knowledge of trump's views says quote. He has a lot of fear. He doesn't see the heroism in fighting and then Goldberg says several observers told me that trump is deeply anxious about dying or being disfigured in this worry manifests itself as disgust for those who have suffered. Than it tells another story about how trump falsely claimed he called quote virtually all of the family members of service members who had died during his term, and then when family started speaking out and saying, no, you didn't trump had to begin rush shipping condolences to those families. Felt last paragraph ends on, which is actually pretty profound. I didn't expect you know something. So big to be saved for the end I thought would be the author's own thoughts but it says in a twenty eighteen White House planning meeting for such an event trump asked to staff not to include wounded veterans on grounds that spectators would feel uncomfortable in the presence of amputees quote nobody wants to see that end quote. I think to me the details really do add credibility and he says he's talking to three or four sources all the time. But it got really interesting here when the Associated Press confirmed his sources essentially this tweet from James Laporta an investigative reporter former marine infantryman. Now, obviously, with the Associated Press, the port a tweeted out yesterday a senior Defense Department official I just spoke with confirmed this story by Jeffrey. Goldberg in its entirety especially the graphs about late senator, John McCain and former Marine General John Kelly president. Donald Trump's former chief of staff. So before that, you had people trying to push out, wouldn't say this. Of course, he didn't say this this is false. Trump. Himself devoted three tweets to claiming that was just a hoax made up by the media who are hungry to You know and his political career. But yeah, that was definitely a big shock when she came out in essentially confirmed most of the story. Republicans are doing their usual remaining silent or denying that it's still true. and. I just don't know how you could say it's not true. He said this in public but. I never liked him as much after that because I don't like. It was right out there and this other tweet from just some random twitter account but it made me think the commander in chief was found guilty stealing money from kids. Cancer charity mocks disabled reporters, gases, protesters for photo ops over twenty thousand lies kills one hundred, ninety, thousand Americans violate civil rights, incites violence calls, fallen soldiers, losers, and suckers. Yeah I guess if you put it against everything, we know about trump name calling certainly seems to be in his wheelhouse. Mentioned surprised that this came to be a big story
Joe Bide responds to report Trump called U.S. service members buried in France 'losers', 'suckers'
"We're getting continued reaction tonight to this reporting of the Atlantic tonight from Jeffrey. Goldberg their pieces titled Trump Americans who died in war are losers and suckers Gobert rece-. Citing several anecdotes with multiple sources for each of them which the president is. said to have derided US service members who have died in combat as losers and suckers. And who has expressed who expressed even standing over the grave of John Kelly son who died in Afghanistan at age twenty, nine that he doesn't get why Americans would choose to serve in the military. The Associated Press has just posted James Portas new piece as well confirming. The core reporting Jeffrey Goldberg's piece tonight in the Atlantic Laporta, confirming it again with multiple sources just Goldberg has but I want to tell you we've just had response from Vice President Joe Biden with a statement in response. Quote if the revelations in today's Atlantic article or true there yet another marker of how deeply president trump and I disagree about the role of the president of the United States I've Long said that the nation we have many obligations but we have only one truly sacred obligation to prepare those we send into harm's way and to care for them and their families both while they're deployed and After they return home. That's the foundation of what Jilin I believe. That's why we've always prioritized the health and wellbeing of our service members, veterans, and military families. We have visited troops coming home wounded, and Walter Reed we've hosted wounded veterans in our home to share Thanksgiving meal and it's the proud parents of a son who served in Iraq. We've made supporting military spouses, caregivers and children are focus. Of Our service generations of American troops have shed blood around the world and defensive our freedoms and to protect vital interests from the frontlines of our own revolution to Bellawood to the Normandy beaches to the mountains of Afghanistan, the sacrifice and bravery of our troops and their willingness to serve our nation should be honored duty honor country. Those are the values that drive our servicemembers. Those are the values. That, have formed the core of America's defense for centuries in. If have the honor of serving as the next commander in chief I will ensure that our American heroes know that I will have their back and honor their sacrifices always
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on 77WABC Radio
"The name of Jeffrey Goldberg who's had his head so far up Obama's that he still hasn't found his eyes he says Donald Trump does Mattis is the first president my lifetime does not try to unite the American people does not even pretend to try I guess he's not familiar with Obama instead he tries to divide us we're witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort we're witnessing the consequence okay three years without mature leadership we can unite without him drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society this will not be easy as the past few days have shown but we owe it to our fellow citizens to past generations that blood to defend our promise to our children so another words when people in my family fought for this country they fought to prevent the ascendancy of somebody like Donald Trump is that how you feel veterans out there does he speak for you then he goes on to contrast the American ethos of unity writes Goldberg with **** ideology code instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that the **** slogan for destroying us was divide and conquer our American answer is in union there is strength we must summon that unity there's some out this crisis confident that we are better than our politics now I don't know if it was intended or otherwise but when you use this word not see you know that's incendiary it's inflammatory any used it in the context of denouncing the president the United States this is a general does he understand what took place in the third Reich absolutely shocking to me he said when you leave an administration over clear policy differences you need to give the people who are still there is much opportunity as possible to defend the country so in other words his disagreement with trump over these policies that I discussed with you it's a matter of defending our country against trump's decision he writes they'll still have the responsibility of protecting this great big experiment of ours however he added this is a period which I owe my silence it's not eternal it's not going to be forever since when I joined the military some fifty years ago I swore an oath to support and defend the constitution and I might tell general Mattis he's not the only one never did I dream the troops taking the same oath would be ordered under any circumstances to violate the constitutional rights of their fellow citizens I'm thinking what the hell is he talking about much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander in chief with the military leadership standing alongside so this is the pressure on the secretary of defense mark as previous they want to make this an issue so now that's the shiny object not the looting not the killing not the mayhem not the Democrat mayor is not the democratic governors but trump you knew it was always going to come down to the stimulators in general it was always going to come down to trump in general.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Reliable Sources with Brian Stelter
"Limited insight and ability to diagnose someone if you are the person psychiatrists there are there doctor. You are duty-bound not to talk about it so we're in a trap in a kind of way i advocate for being very very very careful on these questions questions that should be raised but they had to be raised in the most responsible possible way <hes> because we're really not equipped for this. However think that there's an out there's a there's another path which is to simply report on what he's doing and and saying and then hold that up against how previous presidents and how other world leaders respond to the same types of issues we can learn again. We can learn most of what we need to know. Just by observing i we don't have to go deep into the brain. Brain folds here to understand what's happening. We just have to watch and see how unprecedented some of this is and then we could draw appropriate conclusions so it's also it's also not to me not quite as important this diagnosing game as simply reporting and observing and noting down reality and reminding people that many of the things he does and says have never been done or said by any any president in the past. Don't let things slide keep following up. Keep keep a very close watch of what's going on. Did this come up at all with mattis. The this is mental stability. Well you know i i mean i asked all kinds of questions and as you know from the story mattis was very disciplined about saying you know. I'm not going to talk about <hes> a sitting president. At one point you even brought up <hes> george washington versus trump and you're walking along river. What do we just look out at the river. Instead it was a beautiful well. He was holding up george washington among others as his model of what a great president is and this comes comes through in the book and as i said to you if you if you read the book you see that <hes> that at that everybody he thinks of as a great leader from washington to eisenhower to mandela they evinced qualities that donald trump does not possess <music> things. We know he doesn't possess so then. I raised that question i said so. If you're a spectrum of great president not great president washington once i trump on the other and we're we're walking along the columbia river out where he lives in <hes> washington state and he starts talking about swimming the river as a kid and the current and how strong the current is and i said all right i got it. I got it. I'm gonna give up at a certain point. You just give up as you know you can only ask a question eighty three different ways before you realize that you have to stop did he seem <hes> changed by by his years working with trump..
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Reliable Sources with Brian Stelter
"He's out with a brand. New piece titled the man who couldn't take it anymore. This is about james mattis and his decision to step down as secretary of defense last year. We're talking about mattis went on a book tour talking a little bit about president trump and not a lot so for you how line in your piece that reminded me. I still do have a capacity to be shocked and we all do have to retain our capacity to be shocked. These days you say that madison's friends and aides say he found the president to be limited cognitive ability and of generally really dubious character limited cognitive ability. Those are three really frightening words in context about the president states. Yes they are <hes> <hes> and <hes> you know i think we're so used to the circus circus of the white house the circus and donald trump's mind that <hes> we we tend to sometimes accept things that are quite unusual when viewed in the overall context of american american history <hes> what people in the national security complex at very high level say and this is both the pentagon and the intelligence community unity the armed services and the intelligence people <hes> is that donald trump doesn't understand american national security needs. He doesn't understand the value of alliances he doesn't understand the consequences of his tweets and his words expressed elsewhere and he also also lacks interest in understanding what's going on in other words. No one is ready to be president. We understand that it's a big job in the world <hes> but you have to come in <hes> curious and you have to come in willing to learn and listen to other people <hes> the question i asked in in in pentagon circles are recently is do you see any proof of a learning curve and other words do you do you understand donald trump to be trying to understand america's role in the world and the use and misuse of american military force and intelligence capabilities and they say no. There's no learning curve in fact it's it's going <hes> moving in the opposite direction where he's becoming more and more fixed in his beliefs certain beliefs that are not grounded in empirical reality and so oh that's what we're that's what i'm getting at here that and i don't think this is unique. Jim mattis. I think there are a lot of people who have worked for donald trump and continue to work for donald trump who understand that <hes> give him a couple of charts with colors and hope for the best we obviously know because his relationship with the intelligence community is is <hes> is abysmal. We know that he does not take into account what the best analysis and other analysis from different intelligence agencies he's he does not take that on board especially when it relates to russia but not just a russia so this is shocking but it's not really new new or surprising. Do you think limited cognitive ability relates at all of this wider conversation that's going on about whether he's fit whether he is mentally stable enough of the jaw all right right i i this is this is. I think that these comments are less about mental stability than about mental capacity capacity yeah. It's it's your ability to look like. I said it's an impossible job anyway or have to know too much. The only way you could possibly survive in that job is to have people around you who no specific areas better than you do and what your job is to do is to take advice take information processed and then lead right <hes> and and that's not what is happening so <hes> this is less a commentary on mental stability or mental illness than it is just on a capacity intellectual capacity necessary to be president in a complicated moment. How have you as as the editor of the atlantic approach this broader issue about mental. Oh stability certainty of writers like james fallow who are saying trump is getting worse <hes> if he were at any other job he would be pulled off to the side and examined. How far do you think your staff should be going in that conversation. I want us to be careful. I you know there's a catch twenty two here. I think this has been noted before <hes>. If if you're not a physician or psychiatrist and a person is not your patient you only have.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Reliable Sources with Brian Stelter
"B._t. Not s the man who couldn't take it anymore. That's the title for the new article in the atlantic magazine about secretary of defense james mattis and his decision to resign late last year over disagreements with president trump mattis now coming out with a new book which means he's giving some interviews but he's being coy about his time with trump. I'm brian stelter and this is the reliable sources podcast our weekly chance to go in depth with media leaders the newsmakers talking about how the news gets made and this week some news has been made by jeffrey goldberg the editor in chief of the atlantic. He was able to meet a couple times with mattis. I just recently talk with him about the book about trump and some other topics the revealing interview is online now at the atlantic dot com and goldberg's joining me from d._c. Jeffrey thanks for talking with me. Thanks for having me so. Let me get this straight madison coming out with a new book. It's titled call sign chaos learning to lead <hes>. It's coming out on tuesday december third but he doesn't really right about the trump years. Is that right yeah. It's kind of the the whole in the middle of the doughnut <hes>. It's a it's. It's a book about leadership. It's partially autobiographical but he states <hes> at the outset that he's not talking about <hes> a sitting president but on the other hand the book is <hes> one long implicit critique of donald trump. It's just done indirectly or as you say in your article one hundred thousand thousand words sub tweet. This was a book deal that madison actually struck before returning to government service before joining the trump presidency so now he's turned into now it's coming out but but it strikes me as a very interesting situation for him to be going on a book tour when the country wants to hear him about trump and he's gonna mostly withhold so. How did you handle that situation in your interviews well. I've known for years. We talked about doing a piece around the book. He was very straight eight with me. He said i'm really not going to get into the trump administration. All the things that happened. I said fine i mean and you know like like all reporters. Hope springs eternal that i'll go out there and i'll i'll i'll charm him into telling me about <hes> donald trump but he's a disciplined man jim mattis he's not jim mattis for nothing <hes> and <hes> so i pursued the questions that i had about donald trump about his resignation <hes> and you know quite right. Obviously we know something already. We know that gimenez resigned in protest a year ago. We know from various reporting not just my reporting a lot of people's reporting according that jim mattis was not happy in that administration we know that trump had grown increasingly dissatisfied with him as time went on <hes> so there's no <music> secret that their relationship was dysfunctional <hes> but i pushed <hes> i pushed mattis fairly hard at at times in our conversations..
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on WGTK
"The palestinians and the israelis have a right to their own land but we have to have a peace agreement to ensure the stability for everyone in abnormal relations you said you have no religious based objection to the existence of israel question mark the crown prince said to you we have religious concerns about the fate of the holy mosque in jerusalem and about the rights of the palestinian people this is what we have we don't have any objection against any other people he continued our country doesn't have a problem with jews jaw jawdropping their jeffrey goldberg yeah i mean it's been evolutionary in those people who were paying attention but still it's a new to me it's a new iterations of of a theme that they're developing look you know the problem with the perception of a country or a person is that it always lags five to ten years behind whatever the reality might be you know what i'm saying right and and so i think this is this has been evolving in part because israel and saudi arabia have a common enemy iran i mean saudi arabia understands that israel does not wanna harm saudi arabia and the israelis understanding they all understand each other that they're they're they're they're they don't pose a threat to each other iran is there their common threat isis and and in al qaeda obviously on the sunni side of the street i guess you'd call it in so they see a common tactical interest the the crown prince is obsessed with technology and he understands that israel is the technology hub of the middle east and would like tap into that he's trying to move away from oil revenue as the sole source of of income in in saudi arabia so it makes what is surprising i mean i can't help it because i i have that same lag that a lot of people do so surprising is here's the the crown prince who will one day have the title custodian of the two mosques right mecca and medina here here's the guy who sits in the country that that's the birthplace of islam basically saying yeah jews fine that's what did it is like soviet level you know in terms of like when the soviet union collapsed wait it did what and it's like when the when the structures of salafi islamic fundamentalist core of islam seemed to be some to be weakening in a.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Chapo Trap House
"Okay who are you to judge jeff gold berg should just quit the atlantic and put a cash emmy link and his bio so anyway jeffrey goldberg exercising the same judgment and his kevin williamson higher as he did in his iraq war predictions hard to say which one will prove out to be worse in the long run well you know it's sad it said that kevin d williamson saw his own shadow and big boy season ended right so that about does it for our retrospective on the career of geoffrey de goldberg and our profile of abortion survivor kevin williamson and if you've learned anything today all the members of the show abortion survivors so please stop yelling at us i actually survived an abortion and a fire and and you'll own right now and i have allergies ok well let's say something though about are officially are two hundred episode two hundred hundred f o's magin magin that long strange trip it's been like kevin gates says life treats differently when you're blessed i'm forrest gump reincarnated yeah so thanks for sticking around for two hundred up associates we will be here for another two hundred more and before we leave i after that it's dot no no no chapa were ride forever forever chapa for wedding after wedding after wedding very leave i should give a shout out to our guest producer sitting in today travis travis works on last podcast on the left another very excellent show which if you're not familiar with and you're looking pod check it out last podcast on the left so that's it for two hundred episode it's me woman occur for chaplin tramp house signing off by.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on News-Talk 1400 The Patriot
"Thirty two years old and he's in a hurry let me go back to the the most shocking admission or statement he made to you i believe the palestinians in the this quote i believe the palestinians and the israelis have a right to their own land but we have to have a peace agreement to ensure the stability for everyone in abnormal relations you said you have no religious based objection to the existence of israel question mark the crown prince said it to you we have religious concerns about the fate of the holy mosque in jerusalem in about the rights of the palestinian people this is what we have we don't have any objection against any other people he continued our country doesn't have a problem with jews jaw dropping their jeffrey goldberg yeah i mean in those people who were paying attention but still it's a new to me it's a new generation of theme that they're developing look you know the problem with the perception of a country or a person is that it always lags five ten years behind whatever the reality might be you know what i'm saying right and so i think i think this is this has been evolving in part because israel and saudi arabia have a common enemy iran i mean saudi arabia understands that israel does not wanna harm saudi arabia and the israelis understanding they all understand each other that they're they're they're they don't pose a threat to each other iran is their common threat isis and and and alqaeda obviously on the sunni side of the street i guess you'd call it in so they see a common tactical interest the crown prince is obsessed with technology and he understands that israel is the technology hub of the middle east and would like to tap into that he's trying to move away from oil revenue as the sole source of of of income in in saudi arabia so it makes sense what is surprising i mean i can't help it because i i have that.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Chapo Trap House
"Should a woman gets an abortion be killed or thrown in jail for years the incongruity between the life being protected and the life being either ended or basically destroyed by prison is so vast that people are able to make that okay now i understand i'm pro choice it should also be noted that even in a pro row american society from much of human history even religious institutions like the catholic church for instance regarded and terminating pregnancy before what was known as the quickening as to be not abortion where they've seen highlander through no the quickening meaning like when you could feel it kick returning to mencia szekely what of the most covertly evil so she sion's ever in america the ama we can thank them for a lot of our current abortion debate framing and they have their they so they sort of pushed the line as terminating pregnancies sort of unacceptable or like that it's ending a human land quivalent to killing a baby like infanticide ama rocks dude no wonder why we don't wonder why we don't why our healthcare system is sort of like a cruel practical joke route goldberg device or why we frame abortion is like you were trying to kill kennedy williamson thank you to the ama also starting the myth that you anyone just can't become a doctor we could do it i think we're over almost out of time here but before we go i wanted to bring up these two quotes who asked me to source over this a little one closing thought williamson before we go back into the jeffrey goldberg story i think what all of this proves is whether it's like the new york times the atlantic or all these supposedly liberal institutions who want to challenge their liberal readership and open their ideas to critiques from outside they're comfortable bubble forget this bullshit on the right write them off completely if you really wanna challenge people who are liberals challenge from the left that would.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Chapo Trap House
"Any other people you're hiring but i think it should be noted that both david bradley and jeffrey goldberg are ideologically committed neo conservatives right which means they're happy to fucking deal with social liberals and they don't mind it at all care but they don't give shit about it that the politics doesn't interest them in fact all domestic politics are entirely negotiable to them it could shake out anyway they'd be fine richard nixon referred to it it's building out houses in peoria shit that's domestic politics to them jeffrey goldberg is even set as much during the two thousand eight election he said the only question this election is what the president will do to prevent al qaeda from getting nuclear weapons everything else everything else taxes education infrastructure that's all just windowdressing it's the only question worth addressing and then of course unspoken and that is how to confront iran militarily as well i jack to one point though when you say that kevin williamson was just triggering the libs with his outrageous abortion robotics about his dave the rope fantasy for women that's not the case this is a very personal matter to him oh yes the friend of the show the baseball crank has been one of williamson's the fatigue able defenders recently and correctly points out that you know conservative in hearing for years from the left that you men should not have say over women's body this is a women's issue that's what abortion is.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Chapo Trap House
"A quick aside here at the moment i'm reading the new york times coverage of this but it has this little nugget here that is just too good to pass up the podcast in question was in national review show called mad dogs and englishmen hosted by mr williamson and charles cw title of that podcast is more offensive to me than kevin comments on capital punishment for women that would be the name of morning zoo crucial in the raj if it still existed oh my god yeah that's what oh god that's what opie and anthony would be called in victorian england very upsetting oh it's a larry's about there's there's there's probably like a whiskey review corner something oh god we don't know gyn and english yeah they drink gin they're probably smoking really shitty cigars while doing it giving myself lupus thinking actually listen to podcast you find a more controversial opinion from kevin he walked back hanging the women and he says they should actually ty them to train tracks line with his mathur method of doing things but what's funny about this is it reveals jeffrey goldberg is an absolute fraud because his hoy whole thing and and trying to hire kevin in the first place is like he's provocative we're a liberal magazine but we're not afraid to challenge themselves and have ideas from outside the bubble and then when confronted with kevin's actual beliefs he's defense immediately is he's just joking he doesn't really believe that and then he has to walk it back when it becomes obvious that yes indeed he does believe it so if in respect that someone like jeffrey goldberg has for conservative ideas it's just it it's that the thing that needs to be gotten away with completely is the idea that there are any ideas being discussed or were exchanged in any of these things on the new york times oped page at the atlantic their national ideas being transmitted no one is learning anything you are you are intentionally riley.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Chapo Trap House
"Jingping the governance of china book that includes many glossy photographs and fairly high production value quality given out for free by the government of china can you believe how he is yeah so i don't know who's doing better president gee maybe president should be the greatest world leader of our time or closer to conquering the entire world iran or saudi arabia also you know what like saudi arabia ron deserves conquer the world that that interview with m b s that was a good kickoff to jeffrey's week but it wasn't even him just letting this asshole say iran wants to conquer the world with absently no pushback whatsoever not even close to being the most embarrassing thing that happened to jeffrey goldberg this week the most embarrassing thing for sure was the whole larry implosion of the kevin d williamson saga and his unceremonious canning from the atlantic almost as soon as that fucking means the mercilus we've been calling mispronunciation people were saying oh his it looks like a harry pussy very smart joke you need a high q hundred it jesus christ so jefferies role in the kevin d williamson is underrated because people have been largely focusing on a cold stone steve austin the fans people's eyebrow the the elnino of big boise's yeah they've been focusing on kevin and and also the intolerant lips and the intolerant lives and whether kevin's martyr or not but they're the real the real player here is jeffrey goldberg who made the decision to hire him to be a contributed to their new ideas section and win the controversy surfer started coming out particularly kevin's comments regarding that women who have gotten abortions deserve to be hung hanged sorry.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Chapo Trap House
"Can you imagine some fucking corn husker he's got his mountain dew and his and his megasize doritos these waiting for the checkout yeah we trump country and he sees this pitch this thing like wow this guy looks like he's really going to reform the middle east i better take a look i wish i could bet you money on how many trump idiots bought it i bet it's no less than two thousand people oh yeah because all right take about how many people shot curry eggs or did whatever idiot thing like went into starbucks and said their name was the constitution they probably saw that and was like oh he's nice to trump he's the guy who's going to get rid of all the terrorists because he put trump's fat face on the side of the building i think what's important though in addition to doing circular and every supermarket in america the real the real goal here for m b s the goto guy is jeffrey goldberg if you want a the plug if he's the plug he is the plug so like the one of the most prestigious flagships of the liberal media and is also a committed partisan to the whatever the israeli government does or thinks so diamond partners that the idea that we want to reform saudi arabia and its leaders is very important at a time in which the united states particularly israel have to totally line on this rotten country because they we all have the same enemies in the middle east and jeffrey goldberg is perhaps one of the most reliable conduit s for that particular line of thinking be from the american or israeli intelligence communities this is what this guy exists to do it's why he's the editor in chief of the.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on KHNR 690AM
"Palestinians and the israelis have a right to their own land but we have to have a peace agreement to ensure the stability for everyone in to have normal relations you said you have no religious based objections to the existence of israel question mark the crown prince said to you we have religious concerns about the fate of the holy mosque in jerusalem in about the rights of the palestinian people this is what we have we don't have any objection against any other people he continued our country doesn't have a problem with jews low dropping their jeffrey goldberg i mean never luminary in those people who were paying attention but still it's new to me it's a new iterations of theme that they're developing look you know the problem with the perception of a country or a person that it always lags five to ten years behind whatever the reality might be you know what i'm saying right and so i think this is this has been evolving in part because israel and saudi arabia have a common enemy iran i mean saudi arabia understands that israel does not wanna harm saudi arabia and the israelis understanding they all understand each other that they're they're there they don't pose a threat to each other iran is there a common threat isis and and and al qaeda obviously on the sunni side of the street i guess you call it in so they see common tactical interest the crown prince is obsessed with technology and he understands that israel is the technology hub of the middle east and would like to tap into that he's trying to move away from oil revenue as the sole source of income and in saudi arabia so it makes sense what is surprising i mean i can't help it because i i have that same lag that a lot of people do what's so surprising is here's the the the crown prince who will one day have the title custodian of the two mosques right mecca and medina here here's the guy who sits in the country that that's the birthplace of islam basically saying yeah jews fine that's what it is like soviet level you know in terms of like when the soviet union collapsed you're like wait it did what and it's like when the when the structures of salafi islam of the.
"jeffrey goldberg" Discussed on Radio Atlantic
"Looking back 300 atlantic i thompson here with jeffrey goldberg and alex wagner now in our fourth chair we'd like to welcome our friend and colleague david frum david you wrote in the march 2017 issue the atlantic a cover story called how to build an autocracy about the ways that are newlyinaugurated president donald trump could turn america into something other than the democracy that had been so it six months it now how of your dark visions fair we'll cell phone evaluation is always dangerous on the point to couple things i think i got right and one thing where i think my fears have not yet fully been worn out on here's when that like all right in the opening the article was the fantasy with the future could look like four years out and one of the things mentioned is how the trump administration use pressure on on that antitrust pressure on the pending merger of cnn's parent company in an effort an effort to sway cnn's news coverage and that's in the papers i think just today that is something with trump people are actively talking about i think we have seen an some attacks on the rule of law that for example the omission of the appointment of any us attorney's think they're now eight us attorney's nominated out of 93 an all of those eight armed patronage appointments in some parts of the country they're not financial centres the most important us attorney office in the country the southern district york remains vacant and uh trump's own lawyer has boasted in has been hurt boast that that seat was vacated precisely because they felt the person had the seat was dangerous tom.