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Fresh update on "jeff sessions" discussed on John Howell
"Obsessed with leaks, and the last one was no exception. I played the remarks and the question from Chicago Congressman Raja Krishnamoorthi, uh yesterday and we talked about it, and he is gracious enough to spend a few minutes with this afternoon. Congressman. Welcome back to a double L Sir. How are you? Hey, good. How are you, sir? I'm doing very well. Well, I think that Chris Wray took it from both sides. Red and blue. Yesterday. I'll get back to that aspect of Christopher Wray in a second. I know that Democrats you, including are calling now on testimony from Bill Barr and Jeff Sessions. Can you explain why Yes. So you alluded to the Secret subpoenas scandal, Um, that basically the Justice Department issued subpoenas and put a gag order on Apple for the collection of electronic records, not just related to Democratic members of the Intelligence committee but also don McGahn but then White House counsel that was pretty astonishing. You know what this smacks of is what you'd see in Putin's Russia or she Jinping's China where, you know, Basically, the government uses the security services to go after their political enemies, dig up dirt. They call it kompromat in Russia and then use it as leverage. Against their opponents, and that is just absolutely unacceptable in this country. How far did the investigations go? In other words, My understanding is that, uh, Bill Barr wanted no part of it. Nor did the uh, Deputy attorney general. And that's why I never went any further. Can you corroborate that? No, I can't. I don't know exactly what happened. Bar says he wasn't involved. Jeff Sessions says he wasn't involved, but I'd like to see them testify under oath. As to the same question. Um, either they are not telling the whole truth right now. Or, uh, something even more astounding happened, which is that the White House may have acted through back channels. With either FBI agents or a combination of line attorneys who then pursue these subpoenas through grand Juries. Christopher Wray during my questioning, admitted that the FBI Was part of this investigation, but he became evasive when I asked him about his further role in the matter, and that's just unacceptable because he needs to be forthcoming about this very serious situation. Well. He also used that his questioned by Republicans regarding January six and the FBI's involvement in all of this kind of, uh, you know, craziness. But he said, I don't want to get out in front of the Justice Department on this. In other words, I don't want to really want to speak in an open session on this last I compromise the investigation. You're not buying that. That excuse? No, I'm not. As another commentator had mentioned, uh, you know, basically the existence of his conversation. For instance, with Jeff Sessions or Bill Barr is not a national security or classified piece of information. I didn't even want to know about the content of those communications as much as Whether those communications occurred, and I think that he was dodging and weaving, and I thought it was, uh, quite frankly unacceptable. Talking here with the congressman Raja Krishna more the on WBLS Democrat from Chicago. I had mentioned at the beginning of the segment that every White House is obsessed with leaks. We know that since the beginning of our representative republic, but you find this to be unprecedented. The scale of this Correct. Um, you know, why did they go after Don McGinn's electronic records? Why did they go after Don McGinn's wife electronic records from Apple? Um do they really think that she had any role to play in in any kind of a leak of classified information? I think what was going on is just a classic attempt to get dirt. And you may recall that in 2018 don again started to be on the out with Donald Trump because he refused to Cover up the the notion of Donald Trump wanting to fire Jim Coan, Comey and he apparently told The investigators, um associated with Bob Mueller about this and that that incensed Donald Trump. And so, uh, that that that seems to coincide with the time when this Apple subpoena went out for Don McGahn and his wife's records. What does it tell you, Congressman now that formerly law and order Republicans, rock ribbed Republicans would be outraged at this. They certainly would. If it was a Democratic administration. We know that but now it's just considered to be fake news. Well, I You know, I don't know that all. Uh, my colleagues with would consider it that, but it is deeply disturbing if others would dismiss this type of situation in that way. Because, gosh, you know, we can't go the route of a, um you know Russia or an authoritarian regime where the security services can willy nilly trample on democratic norms. We value our privacy, and we also value the separation of powers. And that's why this is, uh, you know, so startling. When the House voted on Tuesday to award for congressional gold medals to the U. S. Capitol police the D C metro police, others regarding January 6 21 Republicans voted against him. Did any of them tell you personally? Why? No, Um Paul ghosts are the congressman from Arizona was one of those 21. He testified at the oversight. I'm saying that he didn't testify. He questioned Christopher Wray and others at the oversight hearing in a manner that suggested why he didn't vote for the congressional gold medal. Namely that he Was sympathetic to the insurrectionists and the writers who broke into the capital. He claimed that the Capitol policeman who shot um Ashley Babbitt executed her and and that type of language is deeply disturbing when that officer was trying to defend the capital against these rioters. I I played that for my listeners yesterday. In fact, reprieves just a little bit of here at the conclusion of our conversation goes I'm talking about But I found that reprehensible to that word lying in Wait and executed her as she was climbing through the window..
'You Are Being Evasive': Questioning of FBI Director Gets Contentious
"A house hearing today. Carson raja krishnamoorthi asked fbi director christopher ray about the subpoenas of the phone records of congressman. Adam schiff and congressman. Eric swale well by the trump justice department. The league hunt began when the fbi sent a subpoena to apple in february twenty eighteen. You don't dispute that report correct. I really can't discuss civic investigation. don't want to get out in front. The justice department on this in a really best director and the fbi interviewed witnesses and connection with this leak investigation. Correct again sir. i. I really can't discuss any specific investigation. I'm not asking you to discuss any specifics of the investigation. But the fbi was involved with these investigations. Correct when there are leak investigations. Typically the fbi is the investigative age good. That's the that's what we thought. The fbi was involved with this investigation. Now sir and this is during the time that you are the fbi director. Did you ever discuss the apple. Subpoenas with jeff sessions congressman. I understand the question. I really don't wanna get out of the justice department on this as you know the you're just being asked a simple. Yes or no question. Did you discuss the leak. Investigation with jeff sessions congressman again respectfully. I'm not trying to be difficult here but the inspector general has been asked to look into this. I have a very good being evasive keyser. Yes or no questions or you're under oath either. Yes or no simple questions that we need to get to the bottom of
Rep. Adam Schiff and Other Democrats Leaking Away Classified Information
"So he's got a big investigation going on arrogant. No attorney general Huge investigation here from Axios at Garland's discretion. The DOJ inspector general has opened an investigation into the Trump era. DOJ is use of secret subpoenas. To obtain data belonging to House Democrats again. They only cared when it happened to Democrats. Says. Here's the big picture. At least a dozen people link the House Intelligence Committee. The House Intelligence Committee, including Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell, both fierce critics of former President Trump won, by the way had a little relationship with Fang Face still hasn't told us about that had their records sees between 2017 in early 2018 is part of the leak investigation. Democrats in Congress have launched their own investigation they demanded, former Attorney General Bill Barr and Jeff Sessions testified. Not only this shift and small while and others leak away to the media, giving away potentially classified at minimum for official use information because they don't care. I mean, these are obviously partisan hacks committed to the destruction of their political opponents. All any and all people and obstacles get in the way they'll barge right through law regulations. Decency. They don't care that Democrats, not one bit Nobody said a peep one. The same thing happened in
Congress, Justice Dept. probing Trump seizures of Dems' data
"The justice department's internal watchdog is now looking into what top Democrats call a shocking abuse of power by the trump administration the department's inspector general is investigating after revelations that the trump era justice department secretly seized phone records from at least two house Democrats in the leaks probe intelligence committee chair Adam Schiff and panel member Eric Swalwell say apple told them last month the department subpoenaed their metadata and received it three years ago as the committee investigating trump's Russia ties subpoenaing lawmakers private information is extraordinarily rare the Senate's top two Democrats are demanding former trump attorneys general bill Barr and Jeff sessions testified Sager mag ani Washington
Dems Demand Trump Officials Testify on Reported Records Seizure
"Over what they call a shocking abuse of power. They're threatening to subpoena former attorneys General Bill Barr and Jeff Sessions if they don't testify voluntarily. That comes amid reports the Trump Justice Department secretly subpoena data from two Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee. When the pandemic started, there were concerns that suicides would
Trump Administration, House Democrats House Intelligence Committee And Eric Swalwell discussed on AP News Radio
"The justice department once an internal probe of revelations that the trump administration seized phone data from house Democrats house intelligence committee members Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell have been told the trump era justice department sees the data as part of an aggressive crackdown on leaks while the department routinely investigates leaks opening such a probe into lawmakers is extraordinarily rare a senior justice department official tells the AP deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco was asking the department's watchdog to investigate that comes after the Senate's top Democrats demanded trump attorneys general bill Barr and Jeff sessions testified about the seizures Sager made Ghani
Senate Demands Former AGs Testify About Trump Data Seizure
"The Senate's top Democrats are demanding to former attorneys general testify about what they call a gross abuse of power Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Dick Durbin say bill Barr and Jeff sessions must testify about the trump era justice department secret seizure of data from house Democrats three years ago that's after congressman Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell were told the seizure was part of a crackdown on leaks related to the Russia probe and other matters while the department routinely investigates leaks a probe of lawmakers is extraordinarily rare ship calls it the weaponization of law enforcement by a corrupt president Schumer and Durbin say it's shocking and Bahrain sessions are subject to a subpoena if they refuse to testify Sager made Ghani Washington
Biden administration faces challenges at U.S.-Mexico border
"A new development in the ongoing effort to reunite some 500 migrant Children who are separated from their families under the Trump Administration, zero tolerance policy at the US Mexico border. Biden administration will now allow families who were separated the option of being reunited here in the United States. Here's Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas yesterday, stressing the need to undo Previous administration's work. We will dig out of the cruelty of the past administration and we will rebuild our nation's asylum system. And all of our humanitarian programs of which we have been historically so proud. Jacob. Sober off is an NBC and MSNBC correspondent and author of separated inside an American Tragedy, and He's been following this story and joins us now. Welcome to the show, Jacob Good to be back with your time you thanks. Yes. So the most significant part of this effort is that it allows families to be reunited here on U. S soil. Why is this especially important? Well for the very reason that the families left their home country and came to seek asylum in the United States in the first place. Many of them were fleeing danger, persecution of starvation, malnutrition, acute food and security. The list goes on and on and when they made it to the United States of America, the place that represented safety and security and asylum. They were tortured. In the words of physicians for human rights. They were put through government sanctioned child abuse, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. It was one of the greatest human rights catastrophes of my lifetime, In the words of official who had worked on the reunifications, as he told me directly, And so this is the recourse that all of the advocates and the lawyers that I've been working with these families now for over three years. Have been seeking and it's welcome news. It's not reunification yet, but it's a step in that direction. Let's get to the particulars. How will these reunification efforts actually work? How will families know about these policy changes? Literally door to door knocking and Central America. There's a steering committee in the federal lawsuit that won the reunification of the family's missile versus ice on their going door to door justice in motion the women's Refugee Commission kids in need of defense. This is a group that has been involved in this process for quite some time. But up until this point. The reason there were 611 parents of Children who had been separated, had yet not been contacted That numbers now 400. 99 after 112 of them have been found over the course of the last month. The reason it's been taking so long is because of a lack of willingness from the federal government under the Trump administration to participate in this process, and the Biden administration has now changed that. Okay. I have just under a minute with you. But the C l U and groups like physicians for human rights have applauded these changes. But they're also calling on actors involved in these separations to be held accountable. How How would that happen? I think it's the most critical, remaining unanswered question about the family separation tragedy. I really think that that's you know what it must be called, Um, you know, the president said during the final presidential debate, he believed this was criminal. He said he was gonna launch a thorough investigation of the Justice Department. There's plenty of evidence of who was responsible for this policy. Whether it was Jeff Sessions Stephen Miller, Jean Hamilton, Kristine Nielsen. Kirsten Yes, Excuse me. That list goes on and on as well. It's a matter of whether they whether or not they want to pursue an investigation, like the president said that they would Jacob will have to have you on again. Jacobs Oberoth is NBC's correspondent and author of separated Inside an American Tragedy. Thanks for joining us, Thanks.
Justice Department Sues Walmart for Alleged Role in Opioid Crisis
"Retail giant walmart is under fire for its alleged role in fueling the nation's opioid crisis. The justice department has sued. The company alleging created a system that turned. It's five thousand in store. Pharmacies into leading suppliers of highly addictive painkillers. The suit comes after walmart. Preemptively sued the federal government in october to fight. The expected allegations joining me now to talk more about this is washington business reporter. Tim pukekohe hi. Tim thanks for being here. Hi thank you so tell us what specifically is alleged in this lawsuit against walmart. The us government is listing walmart among relatively long list of companies. Now that have some role in the opioid crisis. What the justice department is saying. Is that through the system. That walmart created its pharmacies. It created an environment where doctors and drug abusers could prey on its pharmacies and have invalid. Opioid prescriptions by the thousands filled at walmart pharmacies. Now there were also some allegations within that lawsuit from walmart pharmacists that the company ignored their warnings. And the suit also alleges that. It was difficult for them to reject prescriptions. They found problematic. Can you talk a little bit about how that system worked. The government's lawsuit portrays a company in which pharmacists were under an extreme amount of stress confronted by demands from their own managers to work faster and from a deadly crisis. That was unfolding you right in front of them walmart. Of course it's famous for low prices and book sales and just as a matter of course wanted it's pharmacies to get out. Low cost drugs at a relatively fast clip. Fill the prescription fast. And according to the allegations of the lawsuit the walmart managers believed it would keep customers in the store and shopping and so that was a matter of course for these pharmacists. When you add opioids into the mix then it becomes a lot more dangerous. A lot of these doctors could see. Suspicious prescriptions the same doctors coming back over and over again over prescribing patients. They sought help from compliance managers at the company to do things. Like just you an on. Moss rejection of prescriptions from doctors. Like this and they were told time and again. No you cannot do blanket rejections. You have to do them. Only on a case by case basis and because of their other pressures to get these prescriptions out to get prescriptions. Broadly out very quickly in the end pharmacists felt like they didn't have the time to scrutinize. Each of these prescriptions and ultimately had to end up for filling a lot of prescriptions. That they believe were invalid to begin with now. Walmart had been expecting this lawsuit. The company actually preemptively sued the justice department. Can you tell us more about that suit. And what walmart is saying. Now there's been a broad and at times very aggressive conflict between the federal government and other governments around the country with different major corporations that are alleged to play a role in fueling this crisis. Walmart has taken an aggressive stance in trying to fight allegations before they came. The company filed a lawsuit in october. That said department of justice. Investigators had been looking into the company and had been informing the company of all these pending allegations and there are a lawsuit was a preemptive strike against that. They've said that in their opinion the department of justice and also the. Da had basically been trying to scapegoat walmart for the government's own regulatory failings and they'd said that for example many of the doctors that the department of justice said walmart should have been keeping an eye on are still registered and active with da. And so in walmart's opinion if the government couldn't stop these doctors for making prescriptions. He'll it's not really fair for it to expect walmart to stop at according to walmart's claims and its own lawsuit followed the law to the best of their ability and walmart today. Reiterated many of those same points and added that the lawsuit quote is riddled with factual inaccuracies and cherry-picked documents taken out of context tim. We've seen several drugmakers charged for their role in the opioid crisis as well as some settlements is walmart's lawsuit indicative of a widening of the investigation into the opioid crisis. And who else might bear responsibility. I hate to speculate on other companies that are going to be charged but what i think. It is emblematic for sure. Is that governments. Broadly but especially the federal government are being as aggressive as they can be about finding anyone with culpability in this crisis. President trump back in two thousand eighteen directed. Then attorney general jeff sessions to go out and file a major lawsuit. He was talking then. Spur more specifically about the drug makers. But yes what we've seen since then is a whole litany of lawsuits against not just the drug makers but distributors and now retailers as. Well one other facet to note in this case is that for a time. Walmart was duchess a retailer and the pharmacy for many for many customers but it was also a distributor walmart is is the world's largest retailer in has a huge network five thousand in store pharmacies at all not just at walmart's but at sam's club too and its reach throughout american society goes incredibly far. So what you see. The government here is finding another major players one of the biggest targets that could possibly come across and going after it as aggressively as it has gone against the drugmakers to that's wall street journal washington business reporter. Tim cuco tim. Thanks so much for joining us today so much ravioli
Jeff Sessions loses Alabama Senate runoff to Tommy Tuberville
"Former U S senator than Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Accepting defeat is the fight to get his Senate seat back. Conceding to former Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville in the Alabama Republican primary runoff election yesterday. President Trump Bag Tuberville over his former age because sessions decided to recuse himself from the Russia investigation. Uber villain will face off against Senator Doug Jones in
Tuberville wins Alabama GOP Senate runoff
"US Attorney General Jeff Sessions, has lost his bid for the Republican nomination to the Senate from Alabama. NPR's Debbie Elliot reports. He was defeated in a runoff election by a political newcomer who was endorsed by President Trump. Unofficial results show Tommy Taber Veldt, the one time football coach at Auburn University, handily defeated Jeff Sessions in a GOP runoff that had been postponed from March because of the Corona virus. Sessions held the Alabama Senate seat for 20 years before joining the Trump administration as attorney general. His campaign was unable to overcome a barrage of attacks from the president, still angry that sessions recused himself from the special counsel's Russia investigation. Suburb. L advances to face incumbent Democrat Doug Jones and the fall in a contest widely seen as the Republican Party's best chance to turn a Senate seat.
Jeff Sessions loses Alabama Senate runoff to Tommy Tuberville
"Republican Tommy Tuberville will face Democrat Doug Jones in the race for a U S. Senate seat from Alabama. Associated Press projecting that the former Auburn University football coach is the winner of the GOP one runoff against Jeff Sessions who held that seat before he became president. Trump's first attorney general. Democrats State lawmaker Sara Gideon winning mains Democratic Senate primary She'll take on Republican Susan
Jeff Sessions fights for old Senate seat in tough race against Trump-endorsed Tommy Tuberville
"Former US Attorney General Jeff Sessions and former Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville are Facing off today. In Alabama's Republican primary runoff for sessions former Senate see sessions safely held the seat for 20 years before resigning delayed President Trump's Justice Department sessions later was forced to resign after drawing Trump's ire when he withdrew from the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Trump has endorsed
Sessions fires back at Trump after president's scolding
"Former Attorney General Jeff sessions engaging in a war of words with president trump festivities in a runoff for his old Senate seat in Alabama to get the Republican nomination now he's calling out president trump by name something he hasn't been doing lately this is what he tweeted quote Donald Trump look I know your anger but refusal was required by law I did my duty and your damn fortunate I did it protected the rule of law and resulted in your exoneration your personal feelings don't dictate who Alabama picks as their senator the people of
Trump blasts Sessions on Twitter
"President trump in a series of tweets Friday endorsed a series of Republican candidates but his former Attorney General not only did not drawn endorsement he was disparaged presidents typically avoid attacking their own party members but president trump is urging Alabama to vote against his former Attorney General tweeting Alabama do not trust Jeff sessions the president including a campaign ad for his choice Tommy Tuberville Jeff sessions good on the president's any failed Alabama Mr trump still angry sessions recused himself from the Muller
Behind The Scenes With Documented
"Magazine. Welcome to let USA thank you. It's nice to be here. Thanks for having us all right. So tell me how you get started with this idea to basically observe every single minute of the immigration court system so people would say that they would never let you in but you guys actually did it. So what was your aim? And why did you do it Max so we had been covering immigration courts since we started publishing which was in the summer of twenty eighteen and we had watched since Jeff sessions was attorney general back then and we had watched him issue policy decision after policy decision that had serious detrimental impact to the people who are passing through the Court System? And we knew this through data and we knew it anecdotally generally harder to ask for asylum and just being the court system. So what we didn't know is what it looked like and immigration court is very different from federal or state courts. You know. It's very closed off their court records accessible to the public. Even court hearings are hard to get into. So there's no real way of sort of opening up the hood and looking inside so we knew what happened and a statistical level but what we didn't know is what it looked looked like and what it felt like and what it was just like to be a person passing through and when you can take us back to that first week and that first day was there something that surprised you that first day. Muslim while the funny actually the first day the immigration calls were closed because of a snowstorm so they we showed up and there were dozens of people waiting outside with no idea why the costs have been closed. What is meant for their hearings People some people you know travel from Long Island and all over the state to come to these hearings to be there eight. Am You know sometimes waking up at four in the morning only so arrive and find out that the the hearing that they've been waiting for for years it's been rescheduled so that was a very good indication of the kind of chaos that The the reports were about. We're going to see over the coming weeks. So this is a pretty massive process right and there are in fact hearings hundreds of hearings a day. So what were the specific things that your reporters were looking for tracking tracking so we would tracking a number of different things For each hearing the court reporters collected the basic information. Yeah the name date of birth. The judge's name Damn Immigration Chinese name the Ice Attorney's name but then they are other factors like did they even have in. Its know we witness a number of immigrants who on represented in the hearings. And we know that that can have huge ramifications for their cases for detained hearings. We also wanted a monitor what it was like for Immigrants who are being video teleconference then one of the things that the trump administration's us a lot more than previous administrations is video teleconferencing of immigrants. Who are in jail and that technology causes a number of issues And there's been a law of malfunctions often leads immigrants spending longer in detention and then we mark the number of the major decisions attorney. General Jeff sessions made during that time making it so the People who are victims of gang violence and domestic violence could no longer use as grounds for asylum. You know changing the ways in which judges could manage their courtrooms preventing them from delaying hearings or terminating hearings or closing hearings. They thought were going on necessarily so we try to track all of those different things and see how they were coming together. Talk to us about how you figured out the issue of access and I'm wondering were there challenges from court officials. When they saw that you were in their courtroom Max. Yes so if the person whose case it is says you're allowed to be in there then it's okay but from the beginning they face just an immense amount of pushback from everyone from immigration judges to ice attorneys. People would do things like the ice attorneys would say to the immigrants. Are you really sure you want all the details of your case broadcast on the Internet and just sort of hammer at that point over and over and over until the person was just like no actually? I don't want you in here. Sometimes some of our reporters would get singled out by ice attorneys by specific ones. You know there was one who would follow our reporters out into the hallway and sort of like a cost them outside of the courtroom but all of our reporters were extremely tough and they just kept going back so all of this work. All of this reporting all of these collection of data and stories It's a lot to sum up. But what would you say are some of the main takeaways that you had when you entered the project? Yeah I just say the New York court historically was was a lot friendlier the immigration call system as a whole. Maybe not but the New York going particular. The judges the work that the system in place. You Know New York because one of the only cities in the country that has a public defender system for immigrants. This is unprecedented. Pretty much all around the country But that system and so many other systems that are in place neil to make them more equitable and and More similar guests the kind of due process rights that you might get an a criminal call which just piece by piece dismantled over the course of three years And it was pretty stunning to see that play out. And and the impact of that hat on on a number of immigrants cases in lives. And this didn't just happen overnight. You know it was a very concerted effort on the behalf of the Department of Justice to make all of these little incremental changes in policy and legal decisions that have amounted to this and now with cove nineteen and this pandemic and New York being the epicenter. The immigration system and the asylum system in many ways has just grown to a complete and total halt. The Department of Justice has halted all hearings for non detained immigrants. They continue to have hearings for those who are currently detained. So can you tell us what about those hearings and our courts able to make this happen with concerns about Cova nineteen spreading? Yeah it's It's a really fascinating time What's happening right now in the immigration calls because this unprecedented alliance is formed between three groups. That rally together on anything so immigration judges immigration lawyers and prosecutors. Who WORKED FOR ICE? Have all come together in this unified front to call on the Justice Department which oversees the immigration courts to shut them down during the pandemic And they've all come together because quite frankly they're scared for their lives. I don't think there's ever been a moment where they worked closely despite this the DOJ insisted on keeping immigration court hearings as you said going for immigrants who are in detention. You know that even includes children who are in shelters as while they also have to pay for their gracious hearings you know. I spoke to in a tiny. He said that she represents children. She went into twenty-six Federal Plaza during the pandemic With a group of children who had the hearing that day and the cost office literally spraying clorox into the air and some sort of way to try and disinfects the environment you know there is not really adequate protections or safety is put in place for the staff that have worked there and a number of course. Staffers have contracted covered nineteen. You know they've been caught closures because courts office have tested positive for the virus the DOJ has now taken up the policy of tweeting out eleven pm the night before to let people know that the court will be closed because somebody has tested positive and then reopening at a few days later with very little
Federal Appeals Court Nixes Trump Policy Denying Grant Money to Chicago and other Sanctuary Cities
"In a legal victory for Chicago and other sanctuary cities of federal appeals court says the trump administration can't withhold grant money to sanctuary cities that protect undocumented immigrants in twenty seventeen the former Attorney General Jeff sessions said those cities would have to comply with federal immigration authorities or lose funding but the seventh circuit court of appeals here in Chicago rule that policy violates the separation of powers provisions in the
2020 Democratic Primary Election: Voting Postponed in 6 States Because of Virus
"Ohio postponed this week's presidential primary Alabama's governor citing coronavirus and pushing back the March thirty first Republican primary runoff off between former senator Jeff sessions and former football coach Tommy Tuberville until July fourteenth Georgia Kentucky Louisiana Maryland also postponed
Alabama delays GOP Senate runoff until July due to coronavirus
"Alabama is postponing its Republican primary runoff between former US senator Jeff sessions and arrival because of the corona virus the governor announced today that the runoff between sessions and former Auburn University football coach Tommy Tuberville now be held on July fourteenth the winner of the runoff will face democratic senator Doug Jones in November five other states also have postponed their primaries because of the pandemic Georgia Kentucky Louisiana Maryland and
"jeff sessions" Discussed on 1A
"Me last night but We'll have to see they made. I haven't made it joining us here at. WBZ HIM to discuss. Jeff sessions legacy as a state attorney and senator in Alabama is Angela Lewis Professor of political science at the University of Alabama Professor Lewis. Welcome to one A.. Thank you for having me. Thanks for joining us by phone from Jacksonville. Alabama is Laurie. Owens as a professor of political science at Jacksonville State University professor owns welcome. Thank you glad to be here. Professor Owens tell us about what Jeff sessions position on immigration has been like particularly as as Alabama state's attorney and then as a senator well He he does take a strong hard line position on immigration. And that is that is reflected a belief reflected to buy a lot of the people in Alabama Keep in mind. There's a there's a difference in how people feel about immigration and illegal immigration. And so you know over over time. He has attempted to make that distinction I know immigration has has been a hot button issue For many years I I recall back in two thousand and three at the height of the Cold War. One of the Congressmen in Alabama said even at the height of the war in Iraq Doc The bulk of the phone calls that he received in his office had to do with illegal immigration in. So Jeff sessions really hasn't taken a position that would be the at odds with with A majority of the state. They are more in line with With president trump's Policies Professor Louis. I know this is a generalization but if we went walking downtown Birmingham and just grab a group of people and said you know if I say Jeff sessions was the first thing that comes to your mind. No no in Birmingham. Yes because Birmingham is democratic area in the state the larger Republican state of Alabama. And so if nine times out of ten if you walk down Birmingham they was no no no turn run well. And the thing is because of the incumbency effect and the fact that Alabama you know has become has a red state republican state and federal elections then He has an advantage over a Democrat in which was wide Doug Jones victory. I'm with such a historic event for the people in the state of Alabama because no Democrat has won since Howell Heflin before jeff sessions? got that seat and so am Birmingham. You're going to hear people say no. No No. I'm now if you go. Oh to some other places that may be more Republican. They will definitely be more positive about jeff sessions but if they are trump supporters i. I am not sure how they will respond Professor Owens. That's what I was going to ask you about in terms of other parts of Alabama how Republican voters might see jeff sessions well A lot of Republican voters would see him very warmly They would be glad to say that he's in the race. They might wonder why he waited so long to get in the race Sessions was a Republican in this state before it was popular to be a Republican in the state But the trump factor is unknown if if sessions is running exclusively on his record not only just in the US Senate but on the other things that he dealt with while he was the attorney. General for trump than people that support trump would support jeff sessions. Now will the trump separate out jeff sessions recused isn't himself in In the In the election investigation And see the other things. He's done we we don't I don't know the answer to that. And part of it would depend on whether trump decides to take a position in this primary If he doesn't beat up on Jeff Sessions That's that's better for Jeff sessions Keep in mind though to that. Trump did stop for luther. Strange and also Roy Moore and neither one of those were victorious luther strange in the runoff. And then of course Dr Lewis mentioned The the Roy Moore Doug Jones Special election in which Doug Jones one even wiz trump stumping for Roy Moore. I do want to talk more about that. Connection where Jeff sessions and president trump line. And maybe were they diverge as we continue our conversation with professor. Laurie Owens Jacksonville.
"jeff sessions" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"The president's firing of Jeff Sessions in the immediate aftermath of last week's elections his effort to put a federal law enfor put in charge of federal law enforcement in the entire US Justice department a random loyalist who has never approved by the Senate. I think ultimately this may be seen when we look back on it some days. The president's big hail Mary pass at this point in his term in office has one big desperate probably won't work effort to try to fix all of his problems all at once by trying to fix law enforcement. So that it starts to help him out instead of continuing to threaten both him and senior members of his administration. Hell Mary passes, occasionally do work. Right. That's by. It's still a play that people try and football. There are reasons though tonight to think that this one is probably not going to work when we've got that story for you next. Stay with us. Maryland is not that big Maryland is the ninth smallest state in terms of square mileage. It's about the size of Belgium, if you're counting. But that didn't stop Maryland today from taking on President Trump's administration in a punch above its weight. Kind of way back in September. Maryland had filed a lawsuit against the federal government arguing that ObamaCare. The Affordable Care Act is constitutional and the Trump administration should stop trying to sabotage. It lawsuit is little old Maryland against several federal government defendants from the IRS to the Justice department, including specifically attorney general Jeff Sessions, and that ends up being important stick a pin in that for a second. That lawsuit was brought by Maryland in form of the attorney general of Maryland democrat named Brian frosh today. Brian frosh on behalf of Maryland through another wrench at the Trump administration. Try. To stop their works. Maryland today challenged the president in stalling right after last week's elections, Matt Whitaker as acting attorney general the Maryland challenge promises to show that Whitaker's appointment is unlawful in part. Because Matt Whitaker is not Senate confirmed. Unlike deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein, who is which they say would quote make Rosenstein the proper successor successor to Jeff Sessions, Maryland is arguing that because they just in the process of suing Jeff Sessions over the this whole thing needs to be cleared up fast. They don't want Matt Whitaker sticking his nose in their Affordable Care Act lawsuit. If he's not lawfully able to hold that job, quote, once Whitaker appears as acting attorney general it will be difficult to unwind any positions that the attorney general takes. So this is a federal lawsuit. Right. If the judge rules in Maryland favor here, what would happen to Matt Whitaker. Could this federal judge order that he's not really the acting attorney general and effectively installed rod Rosenstein in his place. I mean, if the judge ordered anything like that, right? The Justice department would almost certainly appeal that would ultimately send this case hurtling toward the supreme court. We're sort of in in permanent hearing loss zone now when it comes to alarm bells being sounded over Matt Whitaker being installed to run the Justice department. What that means for the Justice department what that means in particular for the Muller investigation. But now we've got a whole bunch of open questions that need to be answered quickly. The question of whether Whitaker will recuse himself from the Muller investigation, given his history of outspoken public statements against it, including how he thinks the Justice department could undermine the molar investigation all comments that he made before he himself joined the Justice department. He's prejudged the case in the in the Russia investigation. Does that mean he can legally and ethically? Oversee the investigation of that case the Justice department keeps just putting out the same statement saying that Whitaker is fully committed to consultant with ethics officials on whether or not he needs to recuse. But they won't say whether that consultation has happened or whether he Wilbur Hughes if the ethics officials at the Justice department tell him to. Sometime tomorrow, the office of legal counsel at the Justice department is expected to weigh in their expected to issue some sort of letter a ruling explaining why it's okay for Whitaker to have been appointed to that job. Even though he's not Senate confirmed..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"The current secretary of the interior Ryan Zinke has also been referred to the US Justice department for potential criminal prosecution. So given the Alabama background of the Trump administration environmental official who was indicted today. It's easy to see that maybe as an Alabama scandal. Right. I mean, there's been a lot of Alabama ethics scandals. There's been a lot of Alabama ethics scandals related to the environment. Right. Maybe some Alabama things I will mention that. It's a little bit weird to see a state court indicting. A high ranking federal official rather than these corruption charges being brought as federal charges. And it makes you wonder if maybe the stench of this Alabama case followed Jeff Sessions all the way into the US federal Justice department in one way or another how come the feds are on this. This is a high level public corruption case involving a federal official. But the latest indictment of someone serving in a high level and the Trump administration at this point, whatever the fine points are of his alleged crimes and his culpability. At this point. You also have to see it. As just the latest tilt in a White House ended administration that appears to be going quite wobbly at the moment. Ever since we learned for example, that Ryan Zinke has been referred to the Justice department for criminal prosecution. There's been an open question as to how we can still be in the cabinet right serious questions about how long he can stay in the job when he's under federal criminal investigation. When will he become the next Trump administration cabinet official to resign in an ethics scandal and under the threat of federal corruption prosecution? The last couple of days of also been filled with new stories suggesting that homeland security secretary cares to Nielsen might be about to be fired the president today canceled. What was supposed to be a trip to the southern US border with secretary Nielsen? Maybe that's because he's gonna fire her. Maybe it's because he was afraid it might rain. I don't know. But the White House is sort of gleefully stoking the idea that another cabinet secretary is about to be fired. There have also been a new round of reports including tonight, but the president is on the verge of firing his second White House chief of staff John Kelly, which may or may not be true. Who knows? But that's but there's more right in the middle of the noon today. There was even a brief flurry of weird stories that the first lady of the United States the president's wife. Had somehow arranged the firing of the deputy national security adviser. And I know I know that sounds crazy. I mean, yes, I ladies in the past have clashed with White House staffers up to and including famously the White House chief of staff under President Reagan who was disfavored by and ultimately axed to please first lady Nancy Reagan, White House staff and the first lady sometimes Klatt, but a national security job Malania Trump wants to fire the deputy national security adviser is that how we do things. Nobody knows if that's how we do things. I mean, there were these initial reports today I in the Wall Street Journal that the deputy national security adviser of the United States mirror. Ricardel had been frogmarched out of the White House and had her pass revoked at the insistence of the first lady those reports later turned out to be inaccurate. When other people reliably produced information that in fact, the deputy national security adviser was still inside the White House. None of that conflicting reporting though, could erase this actual statement, which really was put out by the office of the first lady today, quote, it is the position of the office of the first lady that she Miro Ricardo deputy national security adviser, no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House. It is the position of the office of the first lady. Apparently tonight, the deputy national security adviser still enjoys the honor of serving in this White House..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on Vox's The Weeds
"I feel like I can answer this question by tying in what you were just talking about Matt about the like Arizona versus rust belt into the broader conversation because like the entire political theory of Trumpism is that Donald Trump is is bringing people out to vote who would otherwise be low propensity because they're white voters without college degrees. Which is to say Donald Trump is making low information voters interested enough in politics to show up to the polls, Donald Trump himself is I don't know who said this. But it's perfect. He's the first low information voter president like Donald Trump will routinely say things that make it clear that he could not have cared less about policy or politics before running for president. Most recently was like, oh, nobody ever paid any attention to the midterms and now military's it's this big thing. No, that's not true of anyone else except for Donald Trump. And maybe some Trump voters like maybe that is legitimately true. And so in that respect having Donald Trump is the president. It's not that he's a political genius. It's just that. He's a good one man focus group yet for what people are going to be into. And so the things that breakthrough to those voters aren't necessarily the like regulations that Jeff Sessions is publishing in the Federal Register, they're these big flashy moves to own the lives, you know, people may not be paying obsessive attention to politics, but they're getting their signals about what to care about from people who do pay obsessive attention to politics and carry great deal about owning the lives. Right. It's not just them at Whitaker stuff that also is some policy stuff like you can say I'm going to do this big brash shutting down the borders kind of move on Silom. Like that is oh you're going to tell me that's illegal. Oh, I'm protecting the country. Combat me, bro. Like, there definitely are ways that you can get a session style agenda in these very brash Trumpian terms. And so what's going to be interesting is seeing if that temptation pools enough that it results in things that are just flash and no substance, or whether you continue to tow this middle ground of we're going to find the things that are actually going to matter that also will make annoys for owning the lips. But something I would I wanna point out. And it's something I've argued a lot is that you and I wrote about this. I think before the vox times is that there are a lot of people who believed in a thing called Trumpism among them Jeff Sessions among them. You know, some of the earliest members of the Trump administration who believed that Trump is um existed apart from Trump Trump never believe that Trump recognized that this is all about him and what he wants to do and that his random flailing at healthcare for everyone or being dove or. Something like that was just saying things time that sounded good in his head. Jeff Sessions believed in a version of Trumpism that was about immigration restrictions and putting America first and etcetera etcetera. And now Jeff Sessions has been fired from the Trump administration. You know, one of the earliest and biggest supporters of thing that people believed called Trumpism the people over journal for American greatness, Michael Anton of the world who believe at this thing. This is a phenomenon they could get on board with and then you saw that when the bombings in Syria. You saw a lot of these people start to recognize like there was no such thing as Trumpism there was just Trump this whole time. And I think it's interesting to see how with the mid terms the people who really attempted to mold themselves into Trumpian figures. It turns out not only is it just about Trump. It is only about Trump on the ballot because you saw candidates in South Carolina with Mark Sanford who lost and the. Person who Trump really supported Katie airing tin who basically became like the Trumpy figure in that Rhys she lost. And you saw a time and time again that candidates who did not already have their kind of their own energy their own oxygen. But who just basically turned themselves into their version of what they thought Trump was. I mean, you saw this a little bit with Corey Stewart who basically in recent weeks was attempting to seem less Trumpian..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on Vox's The Weeds
"So something I want to get at is. You know, I think that when we're talking about Jeff Sessions, and we're talking about, you know, if you were a conservative who is a quote, unquote law and order conservative, and I hate using that term because a lot of these people are just very much like they're not it's more order than a lotta ordering a lot not that much law. But the idea that your position -ality in the Trump administration is supposed to be transactional. And I think that that's what we were getting at before the break, which is that you Jeff Sessions was there because Jeff Sessions had things he was interested in doing besides just serving Donald Trump. Whereas you've seen people who get close to Trump. I think about this with all the random hangers on within the conservative movement and by conservative movement. I mean, like not the people who write for like national review, a weekly standard. But the people who seem to have like gotten on board the Trump train within the last eighteen months. But you see this idea that he likes them because they like him and they can do something for him. So he might do things for them. It's a very lake like in the movie, Chicago lake what you do for mama mama will do for you. And yet Jeff Sessions was never going to be a part of that. But you know, when he recused himself from the Russian investigation because of his best conflicts. It was Trump's idea of what an attorney general supposed to be very much based on what he thought Eric Holder was and his idea of Eric Holder with someone who defended the president, first and foremost, and that's something you hear a lot on the right? The idea that you know, with fast and furious or this idea of the scandals that conservative saw within the the Obama administration. They viewed Eric Holder as a person who basically like stood in front of Obama, and like made sure that nothing got to him. Which is why they think that a lot of people when people like, oh, it was a scandal free administration. Like, no, no, no. There were lots of scandals. They just never got to bomb. Trump wants what that version of an attorney general is whether or not that is actually how it happened is not important. But his idea that Jeff Sessions was supposed to basically just not be there for what he wants to do not be there because you know, he'd been fighting about gang of eight back a twenty thirteen not be there because this is something, you know, the issues upon which he focused happen to align with the issues Trump talked about, and thus they would have this great working relationship. He should've been there to defend Trump, and that should have been the whole deal. He should have been hit basically his personal journey. Right. And so now, we have acting attorney general Matthew Whitaker who I don't. I don't know what to say about Matthew Whitaker. He appears to be a a small time crook involved in some kind of multilevel marketing scams. He finished fourth in an Iowa Senate primary at one point he worked at some kind of conservative think tank that I never heard of where he did like up ED's about Benghazi, and he appears to have become chief of staff in the Justice department because he did some cable news hits about the Muller investigation saying that it was overreaching, and that it should be shut down now. And when we say appears to it's not this is not like, oh, there is a conspiracy theory. This is like no one has yet put forward alternative theory of how Matthew Whitaker came to the attention of the Trump administration, which is interesting because now you just a couple of minutes ago before we started recording Donald Trump, basically went with the full Mariah Carey, I don't know her excuse about the I don't know who this person is when we. Clift. Clear. Trump often does a good job of like dragging people into questioning reality. But like normally what happens, right?.
"jeff sessions" Discussed on Vox's The Weeds
"Gives put on a maga- hat, and it's just so excited about he talks about this specifics that you're going like that was why he got on board with this is worth noting not only good for sessions in like now having an avatar, but also good for Trump in so far as he then is able to put forth some policy. See proposals that are way outside the Republican mainstream but are being developed by members of sessions staff, most notably Stephen Miller. But also, I mean, this is we'll get to this after the break and such it's firing. This is also the problem with sessions in the Trump cabinet is the Jeff Sessions was actually there for reason right necessarily like I don't approve of Jeff Sessions's reasons, but I never thought I didn't think when Jeff Sessions signed on as a Trump endorser. I didn't think wouldn't sessions went onto Torney general. I didn't think when sessions was scrambling to scuttle the twenty thirteen immigration compromise. Like Justice wasn't bullshit. Like, this is really what he thinks. And he believes in it quite seriously and his very committed and was committed to it when it was very politically unfashionable and was like to his good fortune that it became more fashionable. All in Republican circles. But like what Trump really wants is people who will just do stuff for him. Right. Not someone who will sessions was writing the Trump wave in order to promulgate these rules and worse in consent agreements and get some people in place who understand the plumbing of asylum law and wanna try to turn the screws to make it harder for people to get in like he had his reasons. But so then he was reluctant to just go way off script and do what Trump wanted in terms of scoring round with the FBI. Yes. A tidbit of gossip that was interesting to me when it came out on Wednesday. And now what's happened over the last twenty four hours. It's happened. You guys will now understand. Why was interesting to me? And that I think will set us up for the conversation after the break. It was reported on Wednesday that when John Kelly went to Jeff Sessions own Wednesday morning and said you're leaving today sessions. Said please let me stay the week and Kelly said, Nope, sorry. It has to be today and sessions submitted his undated resignation letter and went out the building. And looking at that knowing that they were looking to get this out in the last few days. And now they have knowing that this has really been the baby of Sessions's DOJ much more than Christian Nelson's DHS. It's very interesting to me that sessions wanted to be able to stay through the day that Trump signed this proclamation, and that he was denied the ability to do that what time for a break. Yes. A lot of people we've got bounces on credit cards, maybe a higher interest rate than.
"jeff sessions" Discussed on Vox's The Weeds
"Jeff Sessions has just kept on going with kind of following what the Trump administration's version of the law is, and I think that there's there's a saying like, you know, for my friends everything for everyone else the law, and so you saw that criminal Justice reform really took a back seat in the eyes of Jeff Sessions because he believed that criminal Justice reform, basically being mean to police officers, even wild Jared Kushner was working across the island a lot of ways to attempt to get criminal Justice reform on the table. And you heard before the. Elections that Mitch McConnell was like, oh, you know, if we get sixty votes for this. We can get this happening, which means it's not going to happen. But it is interesting. How one of sessions is last X was to ensure that police departments have less oversight. And that has less local ability, keeping my love of these agreements are locally agreed upon and Jeff Sessions, essentially said like, no, the federal government can tell you that you cannot enter into the specific locally agreed upon agreements. I know that's the word agree a lot. But that's the only way to say it, but it's interesting, and I think someone the former head of the civil rights division of DOJ said that, you know, Jeff Sessions, I was always claim to low federalism, and yet at this point like big government. It's great. What I particularly love about this like of all the things that Jeff Sessions has done his stuff on policing has often seemed a little less systematic because like it's been at the level of like, not defending particular consent. Decrees who went into. Kogo? This seems kind of lake. He's on his way out saying, I'm gonna make sure that just in case somebody comes in who isn't as a situa sleep devoted to restricting federal oversight of police as I am that they couldn't do anything about it. Anyway. Right. And it's interesting because I think that one of the major consent agreements people talking about Chicago, but there's also eight central Louisiana because the Zana police departments I believe it was specifically Baton Rouge. But if you know more, please send more information. There have been a lot of issues with those fleece departments. But it's really interesting, and Heather McDonald wrote a piece about this. Now, Heather McDonald wrote a book about the war on Cup. Yes. There has never been an agent of the state to which Heather McDonald. It's not deeply devoted. But it's interesting how her positioning of Jeff Sessions and the Jeff Sessions firing with so based on like, but law enforcement loved him. He was just trying to follow the law. And I think it goes to your point Dr about. How the sessions Justice department while you saw a little bit with other branches of the federal government that it was just kind of more LeRoy Jenkins approach to this the sessions Justice department. Very much was okay. We are going to do this thing. But we are going to do it within the quote unquote letter of the law in such an extent that it seems more subtle, but it's actually worse. But also, I mean, the basic problem which sessions is like when you look at the Trump cabinet. There's some different kinds of characters in there. Right. And you see you have a guy like Steve Mnuchin who nobody ever knew what Mnuchin thought about anything, right? Like, he was a total cypher who clearly had been trying to get somewhere and Republican politics. And so he he took a bet on Donald Trump in the two thousand sixteen campaign when there weren't a lot of people on Wall Street and wanted to raise funds for him. And now he's Treasury Secretary. And who knows why right and Jeff Sessions is the opposite of that..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on Vox's The Weeds
"For the show that at the same time that people were marching essentially in Times Square and other public places basically saying that firing sessions puts Robert Mueller's job in jeopardy, and that's bad. But it's interesting how when we talk about Jeff Sessions in the context of the Mueller investigation. We're talking about a different Jeff Sessions than the Jeff Sessions who for instance, last night signed an order that would dramatically limit the ability of law enforcement officials to use cordon forced agreements known as consent decrees to help overhaul local police departments and consent degrees have all pretty long history. There were used in the early nineties in Pittsburgh. And basically the idea is that it's a type of injunction that allows a federal court to enforce an agreement that's negotiated between say the Justice department and say the Chicago police department, which would be a particular example to which sessions was very deeply opposed. Because he believed that if you don't let the police have, you know, extra judicial powers that. Who knows what might happen? And so they have now the Justice department has limited those agreements in a couple of different ways. One of them is that now they have to be signed off on by a political appointee. And it's not just the career lawyers who are generally in charge of this and another is just kind of making it more complicated to either enter into these types of agreements. It can't just be for police departments breaking the law, and so they have to lay out evidence of additional violations besides unconstitutional paver, which you know, you would think that the violation that is unconstitutional behavior by police department would be enough. But apparently not and that the deals have to have a sunset date. So you have to say that like this deal will go away on July fifth twenty twenty instead of saying like, you know, when the Ferguson police. Department stops using citizens of Ferguson, Missouri as Bank accounts debts one will lift this agreement. And so it's interesting because I wrote about this a little bit during the Connie as flows in that there is I think that this goes to something about Jeff Sessions particular that since the beginning of the.
"jeff sessions" Discussed on Vox's The Weeds
"Like on other issues like you might have said to Mexico, probably Mexico would like some changes to NAFTA that would make it more favorable to Mexico. And maybe we could give you that in an exchange. You could help us out with this quad, Damola prob, right? But instead it's been like opposite. Where like they like put the screws to Mexico to get some changes to the treatment of car parts and all this other stuff in NAFTA. And now it's like let's put the screws on again. Right. It's like this is like Trump's vision of the art of the deal is that nothing nothing is ever win win there. No, positive some bargains and Trump world. There's just the idea that the United States. It's like, you know, it's like a bad neighbor policy. Right. Like, we're stronger than Mexico. So every time we want something we're gonna lean on Mexico because this is Jeff Sessions. We also want wanna talk about Jeff Sessions role in this, right? Like, we're talking about this as if this is a like homeland security foreign policy kind of thing. The development of this policy was housed in the DOJ pretty close hold. It had its roots in a policy that I've been reporting on for a while. This was originally supposed to be part of a much broader regular kind of regulation like the sort that you post and has the notice and comment period. And all of that that was originally drafted in super radical form that would have essentially barred anyone from Central America from getting asylum, then clawed back a little bit and was being worked on an early October. Which is to say that like. The timeline on. This is definitely because of the caravan like one hundred and ten percent. This does appear to be a Trump administration officials starting with the president himself have been freaked out by the continued increase in families coming through and the caravan focused a lot of that and force day. What are we doing immediately? But it also means that like they had this thing to work from that was being developed by lawyers who understood to a certain extent, what's the way we can do this and not just be straight up telling line officers to violate the long like that's an important thing to note because there is going to be litigation on this. And I would be shocked personally if this isn't put on hold at some point by federal injunction, but the way that this was done wasn't just smash and grab no for not taking them anymore. It was something that was worked through hastily. But through an existing regulatory process. By the kinds of people who Jeff Sessions has set up with a mandate to be as harsh on immigration enforcement as possible. But find ways in the law that you can do us officials professional not like Steve Bannon after three drinks, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I assume that they're going to be tectonics who can probably speak to this more than I can. And I think it's it would be responsible to overstate the professionalism here. It was pretty clearly driven by like we want to get this done ace up. You may recall. The Donald Trump was supposed to have a big asylum speech on the Tuesday before the election that did not happen. But it didn't happen partially because he was in Pittsburgh instead that day, but it was going to be a rule out of this policy. This was actually originally supposed to be we have to get this done before the election. Okay. Pivot a little so the poor Jane can speak. I'm sorry. Never apologize. We had we had another midnight order out of the Justice department. And it's it's just so exciting. It was so interesting. I pointed this out..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on Worldly
"Hello and welcome to worldly on the vox media podcast network. I'm Zack Beecham here with my co hosts generally outward that I'm really happy to be back with you all after my wedding. Because there's a lot of news. We have to work together on Wednesday the day after the American midterm elections. President Trump more or less fired attorney general Jeff Sessions on today's show. We're gonna tackle this news from an international perspective. We're gonna start by talking about what the attorney general. Switch up means for the Russia investigation and close out with a brief chat about the midterms implications for one of America's wars, the war in Yemen. So Jen, let's start from the top here. Give people brief rundown on the molar investigation. So special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation is looking into the Trump campaign's possible collusion with Russia in their interference campaign in the twenty sixteen election, and if that did happen that would be the biggest election scandal in basically American history. So let's talk about Jeff Sessions's role in all of this. Sure. So the reason Muller has the job that he has is because Trump fired former FBI director James Comey in may. Thousand seventeen and at that point that led to this whole notion of like wait is Trump trying to kind of obstruct this collusion investigation. And so right because he was in charge of that investigation at the time. Exactly right from national TV and said, it was because of the Russian investigation would clear right, which you now kinda takes back, but like he said it so accounts. And so as to the Justice department, then sessions should have been the guide oversee the Russian desiccation after it went to molar, right? The problem here, of course, is that sessions got actually caught up with the whole Russia stuff. So what that means is Jeff Sessions should be overseeing the mother investigation. But it turns out that because he was part of the Trump campaign and had some meetings with Russian officials as part of that he had to recuse himself. It's more specific right because during his confirmation hearings. He didn't exactly tell the full truth about his contacts with the Russians. Right. So controversy around that is what forced his refusal. So he req-. Himself, and that means that deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein has been overseeing the Muller pro this whole time. And by overseeing I mean that Robert Mueller has to basically go to rob Rosenstein, every time he wants to do pretty much anything in the investigation if he needs to subpoena someone if he needs to send an indictment to the brand jury if he needs to get warrants to go investigate somebody's office or -partment or whatever or get filed. Rod Rosenstein has to sign off on every one of those steps that Muller takes which means rod Rosenstein has a lot of power and authority over the shape of this investigation. Right. The shape of the entire Russian bay station. Essentially depends on rod Rosenstein being willing to sign off on all of these. And this is the crucial point right because Trump's in Trump's worldview, he thinks has said repeatedly that the job of the Justice department, and the FBI is essentially to serve the president which is not historically accurate. They actually do. Oversight over the president and the executive branch. So he thinks his attorney general Jeff Sessions or as former attorney general now should have been running interference with the Russia probe. And he said this repeatedly publicly that he is furious that sessions recused himself, and he shouldn't have done that. And at one point the Oval Office. He screamed at sessions and appears to have waged a month long campaign to embarrass him in public and eventually force him to resign. He called Mr. Magoo. Right. Remember that actually Mr. Magoo? Wow. He's publicly tweeted saying like, oh, I don't know this attorney general, maybe if you were doing, you know, better things than I don't know about this guy. Maybe I shouldn't have hired like he's openly talked shit about sessions for called his work disgraceful that like he lied to the president like all this stuff. I mean, this is open bashing a major cabinet member. And yet he didn't fire sessions right until the midterms. And this seems to be the key point here is that it's happening. Right now, literally the day after the elections have been less than twenty four hours, in fact. Right. So why now also part of it actually was a lot of people in Trump's inner circle told him if you wanna do this do not do before the midterms because there could be a political backlash some people, especially Democrats might feel..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer
"And that was actually a photo that incensed President Trump after it surfaced online. So that's what likely this was. It's look at me I'm walking out, and you can see the faces on those Justice department employees as Jeff Sessions is leaving. They're not pleased. They they're no they're clapping their thinking him. But no, one looks pleased to be there to be watching Jeff Sessions marched out like this in a lot of people in the White House. Also feel similar to that. They do not think Jeff Sessions deserves the treatment that he's. Gotten from President Trump, they think it's unfair. But a lot of people don't stick up for Jeff Sessions because they see it as just as futile attempt to do anything like that. And we've seen Jeff Sessions lose his defenders inside the west wing. He used to have ranked previous Steve Bannon who all stood up for him and President Trump. I started criticizing him telling the president to lay off of it. And also he would have a weekly lunch when the White House counsel, Don Mcgann who is now gone as well. So there aren't a lot of people in the west wing, except for Stephen Miller whom didn't work for Jeff Sessions, and is largely a big reason why he works for Donald Trump now is still in the west wing still obviously very close to President Trump. You wonder what those people working for him when he was a Senator Jeff Sessions and Stephen Miller was a speech writer at the time. He was working for him when he was the Republican Senator from Alabama. And, you know, Laura, it's interesting because not only are people a lot of people at the White House said because they liked sessions, but a lot of Republican senators work closely with Jeff Sessions he was. Republican Senator from Alabama for a long time. They all have a very good relationship. And many of them are privately saying, why did the president of the United States treat this guy as badly as he did especially since sessions was the first Republican Senator to endorse him when he was a campaign where he was a candidate for the Republican nomination, especially unheard have to have a former US Senator and a total up today, a US attorney attorney general being whipping boy of the president of the United States. That's what he's been treated as and I was a former career prosecutor for DOJ as you enter the building. And as you leave as you as attorney general, you have people lining the hallways support third under both Bush and Obama and to see somebody like Jeff Sessions, the attorneys on the United States have an unceremonious departure is just confounding to most people. I don't agree with his policies and the rollback of a main civil rights agenda, the LGBTQ issues a consent decrees. However, you should give respect to the attorney general, and what you saw there was the people who were actually in the Linux secession. Including rod Rosenstein, and such a general there. And also, of course, his now successor who is not in the line standing there. And I think you had Jeff Sessions trying to be as great as he could to shake his hand. I suspect he was not as he never really had a good relationship with it to begin with pre. Let me thank you very much. Pre Perahera always important for you to be here with you have a final thought before I let you go. Look, I'm worried about who the next attorney general might be remember this person is only in an acting capacity. And I think it's a it's a precarious time as you use that word, I think appropriately it's a fraud time, and it's a contentious time, and that person is very very important. There's a lot of time left in the Trump administration. Not just with respect to the mother pro, but all sorts of issues of law and order and fairness and Justice going on in the country. And so I hope he chooses wisely. Any hope I hope he chooses someone who can get consensus support to tell you. What's moment? Indeed. All right, guys. Thanks very much. There's a lot going on. Let's ticket pick break. We'll resume our special coverage right after this. You know, what's not smart job sites that overwhelm you with tons of the wrong.
"jeff sessions" Discussed on The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer
"And there are there are some up on Capitol Hill who were expecting this to happen. I talked to a source. GOP source leadership source earlier today wolf who said that that it was widely expected among the Republican leadership up on Capitol Hill that the president would do this. And so what the president doing this today forcing Jeff Sessions to resign while it did change the narrative did change the news cycle of president who was claiming that everything had gone just fine last night. Now, we're all talking about Jeff Sessions being out the door. Instead of what happened last night in the midterms across the country will all right Jim Acosta at the White House. Whereas thanks very much. Let's get some insight from our political legal experts and Evan Perez. You cover this for us. What is the firing of Jeff Sessions mean as far as the Russia probe is concerned. I think there's some real questions will as to what happens to the investigation. Obviously, Matt Whitaker has made clear his points of view that Muller has gone beyond his charge that's gone outside. The lines of what he was supposed to be doing. We know he's written these comments. He's made these comments in an op-ed here at CNN and also in comments here on the. Era's CNN. And so it does raise the question of whether or not not Whitaker should be the person who's in charge of this investigation. This is something obviously that the Justice Department's ethics officials are going to have to review and see whether or not the appearance of conflict is enough for Matt Whitaker to recuse himself. Obviously, this is something that it is clear that the president deliberately chose somebody. Who he already knows has some strong opinions about the mother investigation. Exactly he's made his feelings pretty clear, and it's hard to think that the president and met what occurred never discussed this before. Because Matt Whitaker was seen by a lot of people in the west wing liaison between the Justice department and the White House. He was the one who when President Trump sometimes went for weeks or days without speaking to the attorney general one on one we know they rarely ever met one on one not what was the one who really kind of guided the conversations between the White House and the Justice department. So it's not by accident that he picked Matt Whitaker to take over this position. And that would occur is described by the we know miss kind of. Bull in a China. Shop this gregarious personality. He someone who is going to make his feelings out something that if he doesn't think the Russia investigation is credible and noteworthy he's going to let the president know that. And I'm sure that played into a lot of the reason the president picked him to take over the job instead of picking the deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein would be the norm here, and my colleague Laura Jarrett, and are being told in addition to this a little more detail about what happened with the resignation of Jeff Sessions today. John Kelly, call Jeff Sessions before that press conference at the president had today asked him for his resignation, and we're told by sources that Jeff Sessions asked if he could stay until the end of the week John Kelly was very firm to him according to at larger and are told that he could not stay until the end of the week that it had to be today, which raises the question if he did that before the press conference why during that press conference did President Trump duck that question about how long Jeff Sessions was going to be here. And it's a real rebuke for the deputy attorney general attorney general resigns. Or is fired. The deputy attorney general would move up and become the acting attorney general pending confirmation of whoever the president might nominate to become the permanent returning general assuming that person would be confirmed by the US Senate. The question now is will rod Rosenstein quit himself. Well, he resigned because he in effect was publicly slept by the president of the United States slapped in backhanded as well along with Jeff Sessions who's told by your account you have to leave today..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on The Lead with Jake Tapper
"Anti-catholic March madness we sixty five on this week tradition. I'll be joined by Kansas head coach Bill right now. That's probably one of the biggest weaknesses Of our. our team those guys get outside their comfort zone. He had been good talkers. And really being a great leader. Does he can lead, by example? But he also got to have some people take charge. God's alum. According to get better. Is three sixty five now at apple podcasts. And spotify. Welcome back to breaking news coverage of President Trump's firing of his attorney general Jeff Sessions. The two men had been at odds over sessions decision to listen to the ethics lawyers at the department of Justice and recused himself from the Russian investigation. Joining me on the phone is democratic Senator maisy Rono Hawaii, she serves on the Senate Judiciary committee, and she was reelected last night with I think just seventy seventy one percent of the vote. Senator congratulations, your reaction your reaction to today's developments. It didn't take long for the president to act immediately predictive self because it's always about him all the time every time. So I e fires Jeff Sessions. And then he as Matthew Whitaker as the acting attorney general very very troubling knowing mister Whitaker's us about the investigation. You know, it raises, of course, a conflict of interest. This is our to Whitaker, and it certainly goes to the obstruction of Justice by the president. So by congress has to pass legislation predicts investigation, so you you and your colleagues on the Senate Judiciary committee already passed out of the committee legislation to protect Muller, Senator Mitch McConnell. The majority leader did not bring it up. I think he said he didn't feel there was any need to do. So do you believe that there will be any appetite by Republicans to do? So and and will there be perhaps a push by somebody like you or others to do? So before the end of this congress when you lose even more seats in January. Muller in this nation, basically to protect any special counsel out of the judiciary committee in a bipartisan way. And the only reason that that McConnell then bait on the floor with he says, oh, well, we don't need to do that. Because nothing's going to happen to Muller. And I don't know what it take, you know, maybe a ton of bricks has to fall on McConnell fan before he realizes recognizes what is actually going on. So certainly expect that the Democrats in in the Senate as low as they Democrats in the house will push to protect because that has to go on and the president's actions are so blatantly political to protecting south. That is I said it didn't take long for him to to do it. Obviously your parties your power is being part of the party, the minority party in the Senate are limited compared to your democratic colleagues in the house who are going to soon have the majority. What do you want them to do that? You are not able to do. It'll be able to investigate what's going on with the president. And my friend Jerry Nadler who with whom I search for six years in the US house. I know that he has already said that he wants to know what the president's motives are. I think we can pretty much conclude. What is more Zarin that is to protect itself? So I spent Jerry Nadler to be chairing the judiciary committee in the in the house and then to proceed with the what he needs to do to get to the bottom of this and to protect investigation. Do you think that this is where it ends that the that he he appoints a Matthew Whitaker as acting attorney general and Whitaker maybe tries to keep two tries to shrink or or contract. The the bounds of the Muller investigation. Or or do you fear that they're more is going to happen? Investigation continues that this is yet more actions by the president that goes to obstruction of Justice. Does it doesn't Trump have the right to have as attorney general whoever he sees fit as long as that person is ultimately confirmed by the Senate..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on The Lead with Jake Tapper
"Now, I may get involved at some point. If it gets worse. At one low point Trump even going so far as to declare, quote, I don't have an attorney general's good to be with you all because session stepped aside from overseeing the Russian vested Gatien something that overshadowed nearly all of his twenty months at the Justice department. He took the job. And then he said, I'm going to recuse myself. I should what kind of a manage this. And despite all the tweets and withering critiques from his boss put an attorney general that never took control of the Justice department. Jeff Sessions never took control of the Justice department. And it's a sort of an incredible thing sessions rarely push back. The president speaks his mind. He says what's on his mind at the time. And he's been frustrated about my accused and other matters. But we have been so pleased and honored to be given the responsibility to exit his agenda at the department of Justice part of that is just this kind of case. And so I am pleased and honored to have that responsibility in will do. So as long as it's appropriate for me traditional picking his moments carefully and valuing in August that the Justice department will not be improperly influenced by political considerations publicly. He advanced the president's most controversial immigration policies, privately a source close to sessions, tell CNN he too has been frustrated that Muller's investigation is not yet completed and the attorney general hopes he will be remembered for never undermining the integrity of the department with sessions now gone his chief of staff Matt Whitaker will take over the department and the interim Whitaker are former US attorney from Iowa and former CNN contributor has served as sessions right hand man since September twenty seventeen but with sessions now gone the question is who will replace him. Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has. Reportedly been asked about the job and has repeatedly said he's not interested others said to be in the running include former federal prosecutor and current Republican congressman John Radcliffe Boeing general counsel, Michael Ludwig, and others potentially in the mix or federal appeals court judge Edith Jones who sits on the fifth circuit and Janice. Rogers Brown who used to sit on the DC circuit, though, a source close to Brown. Tell CNN she is likely not interested Laura Jarrett, CNN Washington, and our thanks to large Erin for that piece. This just in current democratic minority leader, incoming likely house speaker Nancy Pelosi tweeted, quote, it is impossible career attorney general sessions firing as anything other than another blatant attempt by President Trump to undermine and end special counsel Muller's investigation policy. Also, weighing in on the appointment of the acting attorney general adding quote, given his record of threats to undermine and weaken the Russia investigation, Matthew Whitaker should recuse himself from any involvement in Muller's investigation. Congress must take him meet action to protect the rule of law and integrity of the investigation on quote. And our panel is here with us to discuss this and David urban let me start with you as somebody who is closely allied with the White House. Are you surprised by this? Do you think it's wise? Sure slow news day. So. No, no news out there. So we need to make some news heads is completely surprising j- just for that fact. Right. I mean, the president had a news conference today where he's out there touting look we did great things we move the needle at our great agenda. And then you come to step all over the message. And you're onto another story and other kind of crisis here so to speak and do I did I see coming ever? He's kinda saw coming. We. We all knew the attorney general is kind of living on borrowed time. But today, the timing pretty pretty bad. I think the timing is the question inside the White House to but also Matt Whitaker being named as also a question. I asked several White House officials why not aim why not name the deputy attorney general as the attack. Attorney acting attorney general let's typically the process or something like this..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe
"The net effect of this in the long run. It seems to me the the only real effect of this in the long run is again just helping Robert Muller put together an obstruction of Justice charge against Donald Trump, that along with the firing of Jeff Sessions, it seems that all Donald Trump is doing with these tweets as he's getting the gun. He's pulling it out. He's aiming at his big toe and shooting at it repeatedly. Yeah, that's right. Look, I don't know what more evidence we would need of the president's corrupt intent. When it comes to his interactions with the Justice department. We've seen over and over again reports of what he says privately about Jeff Sessions what he says privately to Jeff Sessions and other members of the Justice department. What he said to people like Andy MacKay before he was dismissed. And then we see him doing it on Twitter. We seem openly on Twitter calling for the Justice department to do inappropriate things. I think it would be it. You know, with with respect to this tweet, it's interesting because it's not just about the obstruction of Justice investigation that he already faces. You know he already is facing obstruction of Justice. Investigation for trying to end investigations into himself. In the his campaign. This is kind of an obstruction of Justice writ large where he is just asking the Justice department to never bring cases against members of the Republican party as he is asked him before to bring cases against Hillary Clinton and members of the Democratic Party. It is kind of just, I think it's in a way it's larger than any particular instruction of Justice case. And it goes to his fitness as a servant and office, and the way he sees the Justice department and the way he wants to organize his Justice department and how he would expect Jeff Sessions successor. Should he fire? I'm as I think we all expect. He will how he will expect him to lead the Justice department. Let's bring a now member of the judiciary committee, democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island on Saturday. Senator Whitehouse served as a pallbearer at the memorial for Senator John McCain Senator good morning. It's great to have you with us wanna talk to you about that day on Saturday, but I ju- are on the judiciary committee, your reaction to the president's tweet, the latest reminder that he used the Justice department as an institution there to protect. Him or you gotta remember, this is a guy who's campaign began with mob champs of lock her up. So they got off to a really bad start with respect to how the Justice system is supposed to work. And this is just another, I guess, ominous whiff of the generalissimo Justice that this guy seems to like in which the Justice system is not blind does not go forward based on evidence, but goes forward based on politics and the welfare and wishes of the president of the United States just to any former prosecutor, it's just disgusting. Do you see Senator in that tweet obstruction of Justice. Well, you'd need to actually move to a proceeding that was being obstructed. I certainly think that it could be evidence of obstruction of Justice. Once you've got to defining which entity of the Justice system was being obstructed so Senator you also, obviously we'll be seated in just a couple of hours now and hearing the initial hearing for judge cavenaugh Brett cavenaugh president's appointee for the supreme court. What's the first question you'd like to ask him. Well, I don't want to telegraph that, but I do think that what you're going to see is a lot of boiling mad Democrats on the judiciary committee. There has been a real banana Republic process that has gotten here. Those of us who are lawyers think that the obvious comparison is to the discovery process and a trial. Imagine one party in a trial telling the other party while you're do all this discovery rolling can give you about ten or fifteen percent of it, and we're gonna make up a rule that says, you can't talk about that publicly. And now they've claimed this completely phony executive privilege. It's not even a proper assertion of executive privilege and last night after the close of business. On the last day of holiday weekend, we got a document dump of forty two thousand pages of documents. The idea that any judge in the United States would go forward with the trial that day after a document dump like that is preposterous and yet here we are going ahead because they're so desperate to..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"Who everybody sees what's going on in the Justice department was for Justice. Now with votes, it's very, very sad day, Jeff Sessions, recused himself, which he shouldn't have done or should have told me even my enemies. Say that Jeff Sessions should have told you that he was going to recuse himself, then you wouldn't have put him in. He took the job and then he said, I'm going to recuse myself. I said, what kind of a man is this? What kind of a man would go from saying? If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay to saying the president deserves an attorney general, who will do whatever he wants this kind of man. This effort to basically marginalize in humiliate. The attorney general is not going over well in the Senate. If Jeff session is fired, there will be holy hill. The pay the president's entitled to attorney general. He has faith. We need an attorney general that can work with the president. They can lead the department of Justice. This relationship is beyond repair a think Senator Lindsey, Graham personifies the collapse of support for Jeff Sessions among Republican senators, Republican, Richard, Shelby, these senior Senator from Alabama who was Jeff Sessions partner in the set representing Alabama before Jeff Sessions became an attorney general publicly turned on Jeff Sessions today, saying nothing lasts forever and that the president and the attorney general have a quote, toxic relationship, Jeff Sessions, strongest supporter in the Senate is the most powerful Senator Mitch McConnell. Total confidence attorney general. I think he ought to stay exactly where he is. The Wall Street Journal is reporting tonight that five Republican senators had a private breakfast with Jeff Sessions. Last week in the attorney general's personal dining room at the Justice department headquarters, and they all urged him quote to resist any pressure to quit following criticism from President Trump and to stay in the job, at least through the mid term elections. So just a couple of months worth of encouragement there. The senators reportedly urging Jeff Sessions to remain on the job through the November elections were John Cornyn of Texas, Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Jerry Moran of Kansas. Ben Sasse, rescue and John Kennedy of Louisiana. If Donald Trump does replace during general Jeff Sessions, his new attorney general would immediately be able to control Robert Muller's investigation and possibly much more. Importantly, the new attorney general would be able to decide what would happen to. Robert Muller's written report when his investigation is complete, the attorney general could immediately send that report to congress as evidence supporting the impeachment of the president or the new attorney general could lock that report in a Justice department safe and never allow one word of it to become public leading off our discussion. Now, Matt Miller, former spokesperson for the Torney general, Eric Holder and MSNBC contributor, David Frum senior editor for the Atlantic and author of Trump Crecy and Maya Wiley former counsel to the mayor of New York City. She's also an MSNBC legal analyst. And my even the encourage IRS of Jeff Sessions are simply saying, hang on until after the election. I don't think there's any question that Donald Trump is going to continue to undermine one of his most loyal supporters because of the Mueller investigation, bats clear. And I say that because remember Jeff Sessions is one of the earliest supporters of Donald Trump. One of the earliest inside the beltway establishment people, but he's also been absolutely an unapologetically supporter of Trump's policies that he has been very effective. I, I would say and argue, unfortunately, for Justice in this country, extremely effective at executing whether it's separating families at the border, whether it's reversing efforts to provide support for police accountability and safer communities, or even the way in which we over criminalize, particularly black and Latino communities in terms of sentencing laws..
"jeff sessions" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe
"What according to Giuliani's now kind of tacit admission would be a corrupt order met, doesn't it also that tweet us that it doesn't. It also get to what Muller and his people want to get at why they would strive during a meeting with the president to get it gets at state of mind. Yeah, it it absolutely does. And you know, I don't know why how anyone could actually argue at this point that the president doesn't have a corrupt intent. When with with respect to this investigation, he's not acting like someone that's innocent. He's not acting like someone that wanted to go forward. He tried to stop it on. One of his first days in office. He was he was actively trying to interfere with it all through the spring of two thousand sixteen when he was meeting with Komi when he's meeting with intelligence officials, and he's never really stopped. So we have to have this debate because we, we don't know everything else that Muller is looking at about the presence, corrupt intent, and his lawyers will try to deny. But I think that record is actually pretty clear. You just look at what staring you in the face. So why did the president call for attorney general sessions to shut down the Russia probe when the White House has repeatedly claimed the president has the authority to fire special counsel Muller. The power of fires counsel. Robert Muller power certainly believes he has the power to do so. Doesn't look weak on Twitter for him to say sessions should end this probe when it's Rosenstein that could end the pro and the president believes he can. It's out week for the president of the United States to state his opinion. Just leave the podium hurry run against just go, really? It's time to go Jimmy. No, that's it right there is this is all about a projection of strength and an effort to demonize the investigators and Muller in particular as part of this corrupt deep state government that has always been out to undermine Donald Trump and therefore strip away the power that the people have invested in him voters. This is about he makes it about them when he goes out and he talks about the corrupt investigators and crooked Hillary and all these people who've come after him. He saying, no, no, no, they're coming for your power. They're coming for you. They're coming for me, but they're really coming for you Republicans. Obviously on the hill yesterday were scrambling, not as Heidi pointed out, not as not as aggressively before, but I'll saying he didn't have the power to fire Jeff Sessions in the investigation that he couldn't. He ended that way, but there seemed to be so many cross-currents right now Trump again who's been at war with everybody except for Vladimir Putin and stormy Daniels. Only people he hasn't attacked, and now he's attacking Charles coke, especially who, again this morning again, again this morning, a guy who you've just does not. You don't rattle Charles coke at all. So I'm not exactly sure what he's trying to do other than again, trying to wedge between himself and a lot of Republican candidates who depend on Charles coke support. I think it's another example of the incredibly thin skinned that the president has you can. You can never say anything. Negative criticizes. Leadership is policies without incurring the wrath of Donald Trump's Twitter tax. So I think what coke and the coke network or doing right now is kind of it's what's happening across the Republican party..