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"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

Between The Lines

05:50 min | 6 d ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

"We forgot that lesson and before coverted Australian trade dependency on china had reached thirty percent. Which was a dependency on a single country that we hadn't had since since the british over-dependence so Really what's happening now. I i would agree with you. David is that because australia has failed to exercise any disciplined or prudence in developing that export dependency which in the middle of last year by the way hit forty percent went from thirty generally half title exports to china a single country. It's just imprudent and because we failed to exercise prudence ourselves. There are many critics at. And i've been on this program over the last few years. You've heard them all. Jeff rabi bobcar. Linda jakobsen tony walker linda jiving among others. They say that. Australia is virtually the only nation to face a concerted campaign of china's bullying and that shows that cameras diplomacy has been enact and lacking nuance the hatch. A how would you respond to those critics. Well i would simply suggest that If you read the news more widely you'll see a very different picture. I mean canada. For example is in a very similar position with chinese government trade sanctions on a bunch of exports holding two of its citizens hostage effectively to in its in its diplomatic confrontation with canada..

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"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

Between The Lines

02:24 min | 8 months ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

"That is wouldn't matter how much money we spent on defense. we should spend more on external defence. Should spend more to hat now. Internal defense resided security. And so on but we can never spend enough to defend the country. I only hope is through that are greater diplomacy and we need to get back to resource seeing a diplomatic efforts Be more creative in diplomatic efforts. And i think that's the key point but doesn't cambridge you that already. We've just signed a defense agreement with japan. We've got the quadrilateral relationship that includes india but we also expanding our diplomatic and economic relations with much of southeast asia. Anyway what we have begun to do that and much of it is very very recent. The thinking of the book is it goes back eight years but much of a very recent and what i welcome in a realist. Sense is for example how sudden embrace of vietnam albeit with just follow the us down the past. But i welcome it because We've now embraced A one party authoritarian communist state with terrible human rights record. I can think of another state in the region that those adjectives comfortably apply to public data because vietnam leans against china on the quad. Though i have always had a different point. I still maintain that point. The quad consists of three other countries which is china's strategic competitors. China is not a strategic competitor of australia we have no historical issues as angus houston a couple of weeks ago said in the guy he was the fulmer head of the idea of china is not our enemy. China has ongoing territory. She's with japan. India and of course With the us in terms of Disempower challenging with dominant power but we are not part of that group and yet we are is seventy s to be part of the quad. Better are would say to refashioned. According to a tourist octo something and bring in countries like vietnam new zealand. Indonesia korea you need to broaden that so it's not seen as an anti-china coalition which currently is a prison. Jeff always great to be with you on radio national top my pleasure to be here. Thanks so much for having me. That's jeff rabi. He's a former australian ambassador to the people's republic of china and author of china's grand strategy and australia's feature in the new global order..

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"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

Between The Lines

09:16 min | 8 months ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

"To fourteen point list of grievances via the australian media. Second wine joined beef. Bali timber lobster call among our exports that the chinese communist party has imposed tariffs on. And then that tweet. This is the tweet of the posting of a digitally altered of an australian soldier about to slit the throat of an afghan child. The chinese embassy issuing a bellicose statement the rage in roar of some ustralian politicians and media was misreading and reaction. It said to deflect public attention from the horrible atrocities by sickness soldiers and to blame china for the worsening of bilateral ties. So what's going on. He and asha camera respond. Jeff rabi is a former australian ambassador to the people's republic of china and he's author of china's grand strategy and australia's feature in the new global order. That's just been published and it's available in all good bookstores jeff. Welcome back to the show so some great to be back now. I your thoughts about beijing's response to australia in recent weeks so we have that list of the foreign complaints the wind terrace and of course that tweet while a say i up disappointing to see the slights that have been made <hes>. After the two quite constructive comments at the triumph prime minister a last week quite clearly. The prime minister was <hes>. Diplomatically signaling <hes>. That there was a strong wish to start a process of getting back to some sort of more normal relationship between the two countries the product make though it sounds dramatic when you run those three things together the way you have done that certainly not the same thing. And i'm not sure that they're all necessarily coordinated. I mean the fourteen points clearly seems to be freelancing by the embassy on matters that well known and in the public record in any case at a very odd way of putting something out if you leak it to a channel nine television crew that seems to be pretty casual behavior by the embassy then the tariff spo there has been a processing trained for months on the wind tariffs and i do understand that that was the normal process and the strain companies were busily making written submissions as part of that process. And then the tweet <hes>. The present time it sounds like it's been contrived by the chinese foreign ministry as individual action. <hes> it was a tweet that was particularly widely on social media by a now nationalist artist and twitter and the foreign ministry spokesperson on his private twitter account. Pinder to name and so it's philippine. Middle level action doesn't really look to millions of any of these really coordinated broad cross section of the australian people just looking at the y. <hes>. People who've responded this week is there is outrage and surely win china. does things like. This doesn't make it harder for people like you because you've been an eminent company on this issue for several years now. Hugh watt a bobcar. Pass gas on this program. Of course the former prime minister paul keating. Doesn't it make it hot. A all of you to make the case that al leaders should try to rebuild trust with such a regime yet. I can understand the public outrage especially the media is going into overdrive steer and just as you have said running all these things together as a coordinated action from the state <hes>. It does make it harder to get sensible constructive discussion going a story about how we deal with these things. I like to find myself in such august company as you outlined. And you might add gareth evans. Many others that to the group as well but it certainly history doesn't help and it's difficult context in which to conduct foreign policy. What we're seeing is what is like to live in the situation with china relationships <hes>. In a very poor state now. Other people in camera that i see welcome this their peopling camera who have the view that bad relations with china are inevitable. This is the new normal. We should get used to it and lupus it while the questioning myself. And the august company you've being linking me with. Is this the best interest of australia. And it also basic question. Your what has australia down to bring on china's in this way why you think china is picking on again. Picking on is quite pejorative. They're not doing this to other states. Our other key point. And i would phrase that differently tom i would say how is it that astray amongst like minded friends and allies other liberal democracies in the world in the region why's at the trial has become an outlaw and i think that really needs to be part of the public discussion. Isn't the reason. The australia is so over exposed to chinese pressure in beijing. Nosy so the chinese leaders going to inflict pain on australia whenever they can't australia. And not the other like minded way boy more. In other countries we ought to forty percent of our exports to china. No other country has that kind of exposure. I prefer countries in the region. China is by far the largest trading power. I mean that exposure would be the same for korea south korea which is liberal democracy in the region. <hes> it would be near that level. For nearly all the countries in the east asian region china is the dominant economic patna of all of the countries in the region and that is just a fact at its reflects. The extent to which china has grown as the dominant economic power in east asia. Alexander downer. The former. Foreign minister says that now's the time to reduce our exposure to china. But what everyone is saying. There's nothing new novel in that. And obviously when people start to realize that we are going to have for a long time <hes>. a difficult and challenging relationship with china's manage. That's a fairly obvious. Point to make interesting from <hes>. In addition to being former minister former director of the board of while clay. And very active <hes>. Proponent in boosting. Australia china trade relations phrase time as soon as minister and i work very closely with him in that and i think we achieved a lot. So why wouldn't you wanna diversify every sensible business. Every sensible company diversifies the port made over and over again on this aspect is that it's going to be very hard. Because of the absolute scale and growth and prosperity of china. You are a foreign policy realist. All gripe house ruthless and that includes chana hardball at every turn and the stronger. China gets the more likely to throw its wide around now to the extent. These realist analysis is correct. How on earth do we solve. this problem. absolutely correct agree with all those points. Another point that needs to be made. And you don't make it much tom. And your pride yourself as being a realist and that is the relationship is asymmetrical that is effect. We need china. More than china needs us. This is not a comfortable place for us to be but it's a place we are. It's a place where we're stack and will remain and so <hes>. We need to work out how to manage that relationship and we haven't done a particularly good job of a judging by the state rewritten today. So although you express yourself in a different way you essentially gray with the foreign policy realists professor join me shauna regular guest on this program and he argues that his china's power increases its definition of its national interests will grow and then beijing will seek a survey influence in areas on which its future security and prosperity dependent in response. The us will go to great lengths to stop china's rises. It essentially. your argument is well up a poet. I'm a great <hes>. Admire of joint mish as well. I differ with him on a couple of points but his analysis and arguments have been hugely influential in helping me shape my thinking about these <hes>. But i put on sphere of influence is. I think that's already happened. I think china is the dominant paranagua this at length in my book in eurasia from the east china sea to also china is the dominant parent. That's happened largely because sanctions against russia poor economic performance by russia <hes>. Pushback from from europe against russia has meant that brushes had to cede to china's ascendancy in eurasia and so very part of the world. And i think we now live in a world of michigan talks about a world of two great powers with boundary orders and in the question then becomes is some equilibrium at stable between the two. And i believe there is.

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How to move forward with China

Between The Lines

09:16 min | 8 months ago

How to move forward with China

"To fourteen point list of grievances via the australian media. Second wine joined beef. Bali timber lobster call among our exports that the chinese communist party has imposed tariffs on. And then that tweet. This is the tweet of the posting of a digitally altered of an australian soldier about to slit the throat of an afghan child. The chinese embassy issuing a bellicose statement the rage in roar of some ustralian politicians and media was misreading and reaction. It said to deflect public attention from the horrible atrocities by sickness soldiers and to blame china for the worsening of bilateral ties. So what's going on. He and asha camera respond. Jeff rabi is a former australian ambassador to the people's republic of china and he's author of china's grand strategy and australia's feature in the new global order. That's just been published and it's available in all good bookstores jeff. Welcome back to the show so some great to be back now. I your thoughts about beijing's response to australia in recent weeks so we have that list of the foreign complaints the wind terrace and of course that tweet while a say i up disappointing to see the slights that have been made After the two quite constructive comments at the triumph prime minister a last week quite clearly. The prime minister was Diplomatically signaling That there was a strong wish to start a process of getting back to some sort of more normal relationship between the two countries the product make though it sounds dramatic when you run those three things together the way you have done that certainly not the same thing. And i'm not sure that they're all necessarily coordinated. I mean the fourteen points clearly seems to be freelancing by the embassy on matters that well known and in the public record in any case at a very odd way of putting something out if you leak it to a channel nine television crew that seems to be pretty casual behavior by the embassy then the tariff spo there has been a processing trained for months on the wind tariffs and i do understand that that was the normal process and the strain companies were busily making written submissions as part of that process. And then the tweet The present time it sounds like it's been contrived by the chinese foreign ministry as individual action. it was a tweet that was particularly widely on social media by a now nationalist artist and twitter and the foreign ministry spokesperson on his private twitter account. Pinder to name and so it's philippine. Middle level action doesn't really look to millions of any of these really coordinated broad cross section of the australian people just looking at the y. People who've responded this week is there is outrage and surely win china. does things like. This doesn't make it harder for people like you because you've been an eminent company on this issue for several years now. Hugh watt a bobcar. Pass gas on this program. Of course the former prime minister paul keating. Doesn't it make it hot. A all of you to make the case that al leaders should try to rebuild trust with such a regime yet. I can understand the public outrage especially the media is going into overdrive steer and just as you have said running all these things together as a coordinated action from the state It does make it harder to get sensible constructive discussion going a story about how we deal with these things. I like to find myself in such august company as you outlined. And you might add gareth evans. Many others that to the group as well but it certainly history doesn't help and it's difficult context in which to conduct foreign policy. What we're seeing is what is like to live in the situation with china relationships In a very poor state now. Other people in camera that i see welcome this their peopling camera who have the view that bad relations with china are inevitable. This is the new normal. We should get used to it and lupus it while the questioning myself. And the august company you've being linking me with. Is this the best interest of australia. And it also basic question. Your what has australia down to bring on china's in this way why you think china is picking on again. Picking on is quite pejorative. They're not doing this to other states. Our other key point. And i would phrase that differently tom i would say how is it that astray amongst like minded friends and allies other liberal democracies in the world in the region why's at the trial has become an outlaw and i think that really needs to be part of the public discussion. Isn't the reason. The australia is so over exposed to chinese pressure in beijing. Nosy so the chinese leaders going to inflict pain on australia whenever they can't australia. And not the other like minded way boy more. In other countries we ought to forty percent of our exports to china. No other country has that kind of exposure. I prefer countries in the region. China is by far the largest trading power. I mean that exposure would be the same for korea south korea which is liberal democracy in the region. it would be near that level. For nearly all the countries in the east asian region china is the dominant economic patna of all of the countries in the region and that is just a fact at its reflects. The extent to which china has grown as the dominant economic power in east asia. Alexander downer. The former. Foreign minister says that now's the time to reduce our exposure to china. But what everyone is saying. There's nothing new novel in that. And obviously when people start to realize that we are going to have for a long time a difficult and challenging relationship with china's manage. That's a fairly obvious. Point to make interesting from In addition to being former minister former director of the board of while clay. And very active Proponent in boosting. Australia china trade relations phrase time as soon as minister and i work very closely with him in that and i think we achieved a lot. So why wouldn't you wanna diversify every sensible business. Every sensible company diversifies the port made over and over again on this aspect is that it's going to be very hard. Because of the absolute scale and growth and prosperity of china. You are a foreign policy realist. All gripe house ruthless and that includes chana hardball at every turn and the stronger. China gets the more likely to throw its wide around now to the extent. These realist analysis is correct. How on earth do we solve. this problem. absolutely correct agree with all those points. Another point that needs to be made. And you don't make it much tom. And your pride yourself as being a realist and that is the relationship is asymmetrical that is effect. We need china. More than china needs us. This is not a comfortable place for us to be but it's a place we are. It's a place where we're stack and will remain and so We need to work out how to manage that relationship and we haven't done a particularly good job of a judging by the state rewritten today. So although you express yourself in a different way you essentially gray with the foreign policy realists professor join me shauna regular guest on this program and he argues that his china's power increases its definition of its national interests will grow and then beijing will seek a survey influence in areas on which its future security and prosperity dependent in response. The us will go to great lengths to stop china's rises. It essentially. your argument is well up a poet. I'm a great Admire of joint mish as well. I differ with him on a couple of points but his analysis and arguments have been hugely influential in helping me shape my thinking about these But i put on sphere of influence is. I think that's already happened. I think china is the dominant paranagua this at length in my book in eurasia from the east china sea to also china is the dominant parent. That's happened largely because sanctions against russia poor economic performance by russia Pushback from from europe against russia has meant that brushes had to cede to china's ascendancy in eurasia and so very part of the world. And i think we now live in a world of michigan talks about a world of two great powers with boundary orders and in the question then becomes is some equilibrium at stable between the two. And i believe there is.

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"jeff rabi" Discussed on Cyber Security Weekly Podcast

Cyber Security Weekly Podcast

02:31 min | 8 months ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on Cyber Security Weekly Podcast

"Doesn't. We haven't touched on nasa dave fat they budget The defense budgets and how that impact on diplomacy I like the why we've finished that often. I think given the the hour and you're going back to back with interviews throughout the die is utility. When you're doing a book launch will done we'll leave it. There and again i think hopefully get enough out to the audience that this book is is the raid and it's worth read because it allows you to follow acid the the trajectory way things are actually moving week by waken and almost day by day at the moment On that and obviously we've got some cave coming up. And the seventy th year of alonzo with us next year as well so the rhetoric And that diplomatic language will continue. And it's definitely want something i look at is the language that is used out of the. Us charl across the region really doesn't leave me with much fight to be honest and But it's definitely one to watch so look my feedback but constructive feedback. This is a very well written book. You very well. Very obviously we'll well versed with china. I like the person experiences in the anecdotes. That you provided. And it's a very well informed raid and it's not from security intelligence rate it's economic rate which i think is important to get that you mentioned a bite. This could well be an ongoing debate and discussion. So i certainly. In the current context of twenty twenty provides immediate historical relevance and also the fat incites The only thing i did find is the technology side We cover a lot more on technology. Take rice He's in quite contrast. And i think If anybody officer out there if you bring a book out on that could also balance the military the economic. But also i think the technology side is also with covering off. Jeff rabi a thank you so much. The author of china's grand strategy and strategy future in the new global spent a long day for you and thank you very much for joining us. I'm not security. You thank you so much for having me corresponding pleasure. Thanks absolutely place all the best thank you..

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"jeff rabi" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

05:51 min | 9 months ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

"However it's not about trying to stop things going through the south china. Sea strikes in china is utterly dependent on world markets for all the resources the energy it needs to survive as all of that goes to the south china sea straits malacca which can be shut down in a heartbeat by the united states. This is a major security vulnerabilities china faces. And so it's so important as kevin says and i quote to look at the world through china's is as well as they definitely have their interests obviously to protect so when we say them building on these atolls lightning doing the doing. It can't see as a defensive measure from their point of view point because they had but it seems the national waters and one final thing. Because taiwan's come up in the chat room daniels taiwan's liberal democracy which we don't recognize guy figure. You said something that. Taiwan should read law should be red line. Yep this is interesting. Just to be at taiwan threats to taiwan's governing odor. She's the goodguys taiwan. This was interesting. I thought one of the things that were that you write about in the book which will come as a surprise to everyone said become assistive. Surprised me in. The jeff rabi describes taiwan as far more expansionist than communist china. What is it makes the same crimes as china to the south china sea as well as mongolia. The russian far east and and much of eastern kazakhstan. But that's a whole is astonishing. That's a hold of a fantastic point. Really just to remind people not to be audiology. Come about this. The democratic taiwanese take a traditional chinese few which basically sees that the boundaries of the manchu empire. Legitimate boundaries of monday china. The communist party doesn't do that is wrong. It's just to remind people not to look at these issues through preconceived perspectives deeps about right or wrong communist democratic. That's it for the clips. Well whatever happened to values. I mean in in one. They have members of the government. Now who are gay. They've legalize gay marriage so much more progressive in terms of social policies than the communist and that that is important now in terms of taiwan having the same claims over territory. That's just to hold over the days. When the the nationalist government was the government of all of china. I very much doubt that if that form of liberal democratic government in taipei. I can't see them making claims to the south china sea or parts of russia. I don't know if you guys are aware. But the chinese government has claimed parts of russian territory in east asia vladivostok and places like that. I don't know if it was vladi. Vostok but in that the chinese government finds just recently in the last few months. They've they've they've publicly aired this claim to part of the russian far east but anyway i can't say the government in taipei really pushing a climb light. That just incapable wishing climb. Of course they are. They're there are peaceful fairly socially progressive. Yeah government and. I think we should be supporting them..

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"jeff rabi" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

05:26 min | 9 months ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

"The why that they do. This is instructions. Given verbally to try to as many of them state-linked and then disseminated through each industry finds and written nights forbidden in these meetings a written artist to unilaterally stop important certain products would almost certainly be litigated. The will try so these tactics achieve two things. Firstly the verbal instructions become still fulfilling tried is become reluctant to impose strategy warrants yoga at field. I'll be stopped at chinese ports. The chinese government can then liabilities actions as a metaphor private companies but very clever they much more sophisticated in a sense then the western governments dealing with them. Yes indeed so. So that was from the an article in the agency of this morning herald. I think john miniature from the gentleman and form stri hit of tried head of department of prime minister and cabinet said the dispute with china was pointless and quote unnecessary damage to china is self inflicted led by intelligence agencies in the media and followed by the government in order to ingratiate itself with us. President donald trump. He said the business sick is as quite as church mass. I've all the damage that is being in. Could that has been nice. Modern diplomacy the anti anti china hawk. Winning the dying john. Don't you get the feeling john. Mena do is a little bit too. Pro-china now he signed government self inflicted. What's happened. And i think he did wrought disagree. Yeah he's under the former head of tried and prominent. Hey i'm only okay. i'm the twelfth man. Exactly so let people why relative relevant credentials until all former trade with china agreed with him of course but do heads not lynn as dan very often in the past. Let me down big fear enough but you know amiss. Honestly believe that he's got a fair matt wrought here full by the government and owning ungracious. Yet itself with us president. Donald trump. i tend to agree with that. He'll be seen donald. Trump will be gone soon. Yeah but has damaged to get another expert. Just another opinion jeff rabi. He's gonna to need air china's grain strategy in australia's future in the new global order. So different he..

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"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

Between The Lines

03:33 min | 1 year ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

"You don't always see when rising powers challenging combat STEITZ and it's consistent with what happened in the first call walked in the Soviet Union and the United States Senate systemic competition that is not just between the US and China. It's drawing in the rest of the world and that's the big problem for us all had we manage these. A. Lot of US had caught between the US and China and Australia classic example of that had to actually manage a way out of this but stick to our principles and core inches. That's the sixty four dollar question Australia allergy opponents from the Communist any group and Jeff Rabi is former Australian ambassador to China. On Iran disease between the lines with Tom Switzer. This Week Josh Freudenberg called for a thatcher-reagan style agenda to restore Australia's prosperity in the post covered economy. Here's the treasure with David vs on the ABC's inside his Thatcher and Reagan cut red type they cut taxes and I delivered stronger economies treasurer Josh, Freudenberg with ABC's David Spy's now to get to views on Thatcherism Reaganomics, and where the tax cuts and deregulation of the why Ford for the Australian economy. Let's turn to Emma. Dawson, she's executive director of per capita left leaning think tank in Melbourne and John Roskam is executive director of the Institute of Public is a rock leaning think tank also in Melbourne Emma. John Womack to between the lawns. Hello Tom Could today here John Roskam let's start with you writing in the Guardian. Then batum says quote the new neo liberal erosion of wages, services, government investment, and job security further enriched the already Richard their expense. Why join you and Mara and Reagan economic reforms because Tom, they're always reforms led to growth led to opportunity. Inflation is a tax on poor people. They reforms reduced inflation unemployment down and the point about quality is important but we have to remember that's just one measure of economic performance and the realities inequality is greatest in in poor economies. Noreen wealthy ones and what Reagan and Sacha did was they reversed the car and I slide to drag. flation a night gave people opportunities that they didn't have. All suggest to you that thatcherism reaganomics were an economic and political success completely obviously because they wanted these elections and their political offspring were tiny blaze new lab and the Bill Clinton's. New Democrats. Was it an economic success to look I think to some extent certainly they did. Tackle the the twin crises of high inflation and higher unemployment nine stagflation. To Go to the political success argument I am I would argue actually that took tiny Blair and Bill Clinton to more of their listens from our. Governments in the WHO of course also. Massively modernized our. By getting rid of tariffs and quotas and A lot of that kind of a dominant monopolies it emerged after the second world. War but did it in a way That was much less damaging for working class and middle class communities then was done in the US and the UK under Reagan and Thatcher. So the economic success of those programs..

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"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

Between The Lines

04:14 min | 1 year ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on Between The Lines

"Helping you make sense of Australia's place in the world today a blast from the past thatcherism reaganomics shoot Australia's leaders today draw inspiration from the lady what the? Number is saying, is that he rather the Paul? Provided the Richmond Rich. And should we follow the great communicator commonsense told us that when you put a big tax on something that people will produce less of it. So, we cut the people's tax rates and the people produce more than ever before this week Treasury Freudenberg said the of free market policies associated with Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan could help Australia recover from the COVID recision tax cuts and deregulation the why Ford Stay tuned for a debate later in the show. But I Osman talks. Wherever Ye Australia and the US hold a ministerial consultation between defense and foreign affairs ministers. It's known as Osmond. The backdrop to this talks is a series of colliding events and rhetoric on everything from Hong Kong's new national security laws. Territorial claims in the South China, Sea Sauber texts, and fifth the closure of consulates in the United States in China. The. List goes on meanwhile tried minister somen Birmingham he can't even get. He's Chinese counterpart in Beijing to return his calls. But the deeper issue on the agenda was a choice. The US was hoping Australia with throw everything in with us and officially cast China as a strategic rival. Now, the test of that, Australia would join the US in freedom of navigation patrols, but Australia has not explicitly committed to the patrols, but it has not refused do them either with foreign minister maries pine stressing the camera makes foreign policy in its own national interests. Let's turn to our panel. Allen's you pont is one of Australia's leading defense strategists and he's the author of a new Piper Mitigating than you call war managing, U. S. China trade tick, and geopolitical conflict. It's published by the Center for Independent. Studies which. And Jeff Rabi was a strike ambassador to China from two thousand and seven to two thousand eleven, and he's the author of China's Grain Strategy and Australia's future in the new global order that's forthcoming from Melbourne University Press and I started by asking Jeff, what he made of the Osmond negotiations in Washington this week well is obviously big statement that Strand government might are sending ministers to Washington during the time of the nineteen particularly given the chaotic nature of the US response to cope with. The disciplined nature by comparison of Australia response. The MRI Jerry match was that we comrades-in-arms and We want to get out of that way who read full set messy Jennifer occasion which was done by. Allen the United States on the both Obama and the trump administration's they did press camera to join these phone ops, the freedom of navigation patrols around the disputed all and in the South China Sea. is at Labour's showed defense minister. Jamal's thinks that should very much be on the table. Do you think our refusal sunfire at least is about China or about the United States. Wouldn't. We've actually refused hedged a little. Entirely possible that we might conduct freedoms at the guy operations in the future, but paps will do it in a in a slightly different way. A lot of people expect so. I consistently that it is important to conduct these fun ops in the South China Sea to assert two important principles of international law that China Ima- view clearly breached. The first thing is that the claimed that these out of fish law islands militarize entitles them to twelve nautical miles. Territority is not supported and international law. So we need to demonstrate that sailing ships through that area we'll flying over it the second. Climb that China makes to eighty percent of the South China Sea has no basis in international law and that's just not lie opinion..

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"jeff rabi" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

01:35 min | 3 years ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"In japan and china say they'll work together to encourage north korea to abandon its nuclear program in its latest sign of improving relations between asia's two largest economies foreign minister trip to tokyo was a first of its kind in more than eight years and comes ahead of the korea summit and president trump's potential macy's with kim jong own that's a big one that we're waiting for we're joined now by the former ustralian ambassador to china jeff rabi foot jeff great to have you you'll be on these developments do you think this is really a game changer the improvement chinajapan relations with very welcome and very real and i think it reflects it the is now a lot of moving parts particularly in the region so south korea began with they had the winter olympics diplomacy with north korea and out of that came at announcement that president trump would meet with kim surprised everyone i think about a surprise the white house as well and then china i think scrambled to play itself back into the guy in the visit of kim into beijing two weeks ago it was very very significant and now this with japan because japan wants to be a player on any developments in the peninsula's mobile business news twenty four hours a day at bloomberg dot com the radioplus mobile app and on your radio this is a bloomberg business flash and i'm karen moskow.

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"jeff rabi" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

02:18 min | 4 years ago

"jeff rabi" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"The amount that sir mentioned russian is it takes the poll pug that is the cohen's record that we expect that to be broken legs of this week when nemaa as we expect will sign full curry censure mack that's coming up in the international war of words first over north korea and its military capabilities than might have been some stepping back from the brink by the united states the american secretary of state rex tillerson has said his country does not regard north korea as an enemy he told reporters he wanted dialogue with pyongyang we do not seek a regime cherry reduce not seek the collapse of the regime we do not seek an accelerated reunification of the peninsula we do not see you can excuse do send our military north of the thirty eight th parallel and we're trying to convey to the north koreans we are not your enemy we're not your thrift resort brazili an unacceptable threat to us and we have to respond secretary tillerson went on to say that the key to any resolution of the north korean problem was china we we do believe china has a special and unique relationship because of this significant economic activity to influence north korean regime and ways that no one else can oh this softer stance on china's seemed a marked contrast to president trump's recent tweets that china did nothing for the us on north korea beyond talking so he's the secretary state trying to calm the waters jeff rabi is former australian ambassador to china now as secretary of state i think he's doing what he should do you want who athlete the primacy run a true course he's not say anything in contradiction to what the protesters said but its most appropriate the stage with the secretary of state is through wanting to maintain dialogue and you approve of the message from the us to north korea you are not our enemy well i think the message is very clear that north korea must wind back its missile program have its nuclear development program now it from the us enemy but if it threatens the us the us firms made it very clear it will take actions to remove that threat china can solve this easily is the view of president trump in a latest tweet we'll try to has overwhelming influence on vpr kerry tried it doesn't want the collapse.

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