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Drivers start. Tuning up your workweek. It's m. are in motor sports Monday presented by outback steakhouse and brought to you by Hercules tires and grunt style payroll. Now for the latest NASCAR news and opinions, and even better haircare tips. Here's what he came and Joey Meyer. MR in motorsports, Monday presented by outback steakhouse after the weekend that was at Talladega on the Cup side race, two of round two of the playoffs for the trucks. It was elimination day, and we've got a lot to discuss on both of those before we had to Kansas speedway this weekend, what he came alongside Joey Meyer and for a while, Joey. It seemed like we had gone back to the future in the nineties, the way the racing style turned out to be at Talladega. It's been a long time since any of us on the roof or in the garage have seen a wood chipping thrashing by one team. So dominant qualifying all four teams in the top four. And then realistically working together and really popping up that bottom line where nobody can do anything with those guys for the entire afternoon. The only enemy that two of the forehead was too much air in the old fuel tank, and that relegated them to a poor finish. But obviously Eric Merola and an Clint Boyer rebel to hold tight in their positions with the dominant dominant performance by Stewart, Australia. If I'm the other team specifically the fourteens I'm almost embarrassed because that was such a thrashing of speed and raw power and maneuverability and workmanship with the teams, they've really just dominated from start to finish at the end. And again, the only thing it took two of the four hours, a lack of fuel. We've seen in the past a Toyota teams, specifically the Gibbs teams try to gang up like that and use it to their advantage, but not as effectively as what we saw yesterday. Yeah. The gives cars in the past with Martin tricks, junior, adding the fifth car. Those guys had worked well together, but they didn't have the raw speed. And that's really what we saw yesterday was the speed that they had on the bottom lane. It didn't matter how much you try to gang up on the middle and high lanes. You simply couldn't get enough speed to overcome their raw speed by themselves. They were able to pull the pack four, five, six tenths quicker than anybody else. Namely the two car got out front. We were running in the nineties in a lab night. You're talking time no time it's at and then the other. Teams wants to Stewart. Haas cars got down. They would pick up five, six tenths of a second. And that's just a dominating performance by those guys. So kudos to them really puts the two car in a bad position, a little Joey. Here's pretty upset because Kevin, I guess I was about to ask you, he run out of gas. He's very sad. I'm sad, Big, Joe little Joe. Very sad. Now, the two cars in a predicament. We have to go to Kansas essentially, excluding any other catastrophic issues. By some other teams, we have to win that race, and that's that's a bad place to be an after a decent season. We've had our team may Joel Gano finished in the top five. So those guys are pretty much moving on, but Ryan Blaney and the twelve car in the two car really, really have to go to Kansas with some high performance. We see we see ourselves air and just we're just trying to. That's our finishing order right there. And the guy that didn't finish may, we had no stage points. We had a loose wheel, which we still don't know how that happens. We talked in right before the race, Kevin Harvick. The only person that's really interesting is Martin Nick junior, had a bad day mechanically, and he's right there at the cutoff. Line right above us and that seven spot or eight spot. So it'll Kansas is going to be a tough race for the for the couple of cars to go there and run good think tricks has a high probability of running good that mile and a half. Now they've been very good there, but realistically, no big one, you know, no big crash there at Talladega, which guys were being careful. We had some some small couple of tire incidences couple of spinouts, but no, really big rec. The the biggest wreck was coming to the back to the checkered flag and kudos to NASCAR for not throwing that caution, letting the race Platt the what's going to. We'll talk a little more about that later and on track off track. We'll also hear more from Martin directs junior talking about Kansas. But Eric Merola goes to victory lane, punches his ticket to round three. Here's what he had to say afterwards, but I, I show up to these tracks anxious, but excited and feeling like I've got an opportunity and you know, I think when you look at my career of one an expenditure race at Daytona one extended erase here at Talladega I won my first Cup race at Daytona and now I have on my second Cup race. At Talladega. Now I want to start. I'd like to to win at some of these other tracks. So that way people don't just say, oh, well, he's just a good restrictor plate racer. But today today was sweet to to go to victory lane in such a clutch moment in the play offs down ten points coming into this weekend. And knowing that this was an opportunity race for us winning here today was really special. And and like I said, I can count on my on my hand, five or six graces. I feel like we maybe should have won this year and it didn't work out and didn't didn't happen today. The good Lord was shining down on us and we were able to victory lane. So this is a special day he was kinda do. Carmo wise wasn't he? He'd had as you mentioned a couple taken away when it looked like he was going to win, and some cautions and circumstances worked against him just a week ago at Dover to now he goes to victory lane. Yeah, we, we have to look all the way back to last week. Yeah, to dominating the race clearly out in front and his teammate. The fourteen car hits the wall causes a caution. Couple of cars stayed out. They get tired. He wrecks off a two and a restart ruins his day. After race was in his hand, it was there. He was going to go to victory lane. Nobody was touching him. Nobody was catching him. All he had to do is get a cover around couple of corners and the caution come down at a very untimely manner. The. Agony of defeat last week, the thrill of victory this week. Absolutely. And you can pick up Eric Merola race winning die cast as well as all of those the race winning cash from Talladega as all the race winning die, cast and others available at plan, b sales dot com. You gotta love the fueled by bacon bacon for life thing on there who doesn't like bacon, right? Doesn't like absolutely bacon. Make everything better and happy people like. Right time out here on motorsports, Monday on track off, track coming up. We'll hear from Morton directs junior about Kansas, and we'll talk a little truck racing as well. Green on the Bobby Czyz staying. Blooming. Got it. Boom. Still. Stay tuned. Ni-. That would its own up own. Chris Crockett street from NASCAR stands cure the 'nother member of our Toyota racing family, Jason. Hi there. Oh, you seem impatient. Oh, well, I've been holding it in for awhile awhile since it started the race now this season while because you don't want to miss any action? Nope, I don't own. Did you just see Denny handling take the lead? I haven't taken my eyes off Emmys and you don't look so good can offer you some water. Absolutely not NASCAR. Toyota racing with a family like this. Who knows the places we're going to play offs, learn more at Toyota racing dot com. Toyota. Let's go places, starts richer, Famer to the national association for soccer auto racing Inc. What style the American fighting spirit is everything we. We are five hundred patriots and veterans strong free clothing manufacturing that to the United States of America. Always moving forward. Never retreating. Never giving up. We are what style and this he'll defend get yours act, run style dot com. This is the race for the win at Talladega, corporal shot in front snaking back and forth. Trying to break the track the role of behind either stacked up before back hurt Bush's advantages, only half a car length here comes Rollo mounting charge around the outside. Kurt. Busch doesn't have any help. The field back to the strike, hurt, Bush out of fuel drop into the inside of the track. Here's Eric l. Merola who nearly will in the Daytona five hundred and he will win today Talladega. Joe more with the call taking across the line. And boy, you know, we talk a lot about saving fuel at a restrictor plate track when you're in line. But when you're the leader, like Kurt Busch, who led so many laps, particularly toward the end there he's using more fuel than everybody else. He and his teammate Kevin Harvick both ran out of gas at the end Ryan a gas. How about Eric? Morillas is view coming. You take the white, you're running second to your teammate. You're not thinking about winning that race. I'm sorry, because you followed your teammate the entire day. You know, you're not getting by him. You've essentially said, I'm going to do a point. Good points day here. I'm going to run second. All of a sudden your teammate runs out of gas. If we back up all the way to February Eric emerald is leading the raised on the backstretch and gets wrecked, come into the Daytona five hundred. So again, just the thrill of victory for those guys following by the agony of defeat multiple times, we sell two incidences earlier in the year when clip Boyer wrecked. While Eric emerald is leading, he was leading the Daytona five hundred on the last lap coming to the checkered flag. Got wrecked. So they they've had a good wind coming. Those guys were so strong and nothing could do Kurt wasn't happy with the extra lap. Yeah, thought, let's get ahead. Let's get into that right now. This is on track off track where we talk about things going well in the sport, and some things not going quite so well, and that leads right into your next topic after the race. Kirk got out of the car and said the previous caution, went way too long, and then we didn't get the caution flag when there was an incident toward the end and he felt like both of those things contributed to him, not winning that race. Well, if either one of those things are taken out of the picture, he wins the race. If we go green one lap sooner, he has another extra lap. You're essentially gain two laps of green, everyone Lapa caution. Right, right. You're using as much few soda go back to green one lap earlier. He has plenty of gas to get back to the checkered flag. He's leading the race, not that was in turn four where he ran out. Nobody's mounting charge. Nobody's coming. He's gonna win the race. If the caution comes out with the wreck that happens down in turn one and two. Uh-huh. Kurtz leading the race down the backstretch. The caution comes out. He's the race winner because the field had already taken the white Ryan. The next flag race kudos to NASCAR. All right. On both on both of them does because they are cleaning up the track if they're going to only clean up and use one lap, they're not gonna, throw the red flag to save one lap of caution around a two point, eight mile track. They just won't do it. They're doing everything they can do is efficiently as possible. You hear him on the NASCAR radio get going, get going. They're doing everything they can cars or circulate in the track. We're going to go one to go to hold on. We're gonna wanna go next time. They're doing everything they can do to get back. They're not gonna stop it. Thinking about these guys around a guest, they don't care about the team strategy, nor should they know they shouldn't. They shouldn't. Now we go, we take the white flag that the race teams go down and turn one and two. There's a wreck, the last lap of the race, assuming nobody's hurt, nobody hit violently and they have car. Cars spotters around the track going. Everybody's moving. The cars are moving. Nobody's got the window net down. That's a key. The drivers are in a safe position. We have a big enough track. Let the race play out the way it's supposed to the last lap has to be regulated a slightly different because you are coming back to the checkered flag. If that same wreck happens, we saw a one car spinout leaving pit road on the skit bed in the middle of the race that threw caution it has to be regulated slightly differently because we're not finishing the race. The race was able to play out the way it was supposed to. Yes, Kurt Busch Radha guests. Yes. Eric emerald it was able to bring to victory lane, but I compliment NASCAR on big on seeing the bigger picture of allowing this race to take the white flag. The fans are on their on their feet. We're going to see a race alway back to the checkered flag, and that's what we gain for whether we're running a hundred and eighty eight laps, whether we're running twenty laps or two laps, you wanna see which we did. We only rent to left at the end of that race for agreeing WeChat. Uh-huh. You wanna see the race play out the way it was going to play out. All right, two things to dig a little deeper here. One Kurt Busch's contention getting out is well. They threw a caution during the truck race on the last lap when the head and incident and number two, if you're going to say, we're not going to throw a caution and let the race play out. Why then do we throw a caution when a tire got away and was in the edge of the graph? A good question be the tire is notorious effect. I called that the minute happened. I said, we're getting a caution because what happens is what nascar's concerns with that simple tire being in the grass is somebody coming down pit road or getting slid into the grass slide into the slid, the Linden. That's a good one. So you're slid through the grass, you hit that tire becomes a projectile. I will almost guarantee if we see loose tires come across pit road and get in the grass, the last thing they want to do a c- a crew member run across pit road or an official run across. They're very, very consistent about that tire gonna think back to the old days when guys used to stand on the track and wait with a tie with with a pit sign. Now, the end of the truck race is far as the tho caution being yet. Then their information is different. That's a different kind of race. The the trucks aren't moving. The type of hits there's trucks we're moving. This is I'm talking about the incident with with Timothy Peters, and Noah Gregson coming coming to the checkered. That one didn't. I think Kurtz contention is that when that when produced a caution, but why didn't the Cup race produce a caution when there's a last lap incident? Well, Timothy Peters ended up winning that race, Noah Grayson. You guys are coming to the checker flag, right, right. Because because then you're in the situation as you described earlier. Over the next. The next flag ends the race, and that was the situation with the truck side, correct. I just simply feel they endangered. Noah Grayson was in front of the field. Yep, right. So they're starting to get guys behind stack we had. We had Jennifer, Joe Cobb gotten somebody hit her minutes after I'm not even sure what happens actually, right. So my point is that wreck happened in the front of the field, and I believe if we go down and turn one and we see a wreck in the front part of the field, we're going to get a caution because they're trying to get the guys behind to start slowing down because there's too many unknowns. The wreck that happened in turn one and two Talladega was more towards the middle in the back of the field, and there wasn't the risk of guys driving through that wreck wide open or different scenarios. Again, they're looking at the bigger picture. They always want to end the race safely, right? That's our primary concern and then allowing the race to play out again, I don't see anything wrong with it. It's going to be different scenarios yesterday scenario, hurt, Kurt, Busch Saturday scenario helped Timothy Peter. So there's different scenarios you're gonna hurt and help somebody. In again, the consistency is the fact that they're trying to allow the race to play out to the best of their ability. All right. Let's move to off track now. And I think you and I, this doesn't happen. All that often are kind of in agreement on this man was really cool. So you're a couple of weeks ago. We had a really cool throwback weaken at Darlington. I remember I was ain't schemes, and the one thing that Darlington didn't do Talladega was able to do this weekend. They honored throwback weekend to mimic the days. We didn't have cell phones. Oh my goodness. There was no cell service at Talladega. No. WI fi service, no ten, no service. We use cans and strings to communicate all weekend. We had a really long can on the roof and a really long. No, you drink? No. You didn't. What would try okay in that would definitely call. It was terrible. There was zero cell service. Now it wasn't the matter of crowds. It wasn't a matter of traffic on Sunday because Friday afternoon, Saturday all day long. There was zero cell service. We have to provide communication purposes. Even if we talk about safety issues, we're talking about parents being. Able to get a hold of their kids trying to find, hey, mom and dad were your, hey, my son's here we're, they simple communication. I get. It's two thousand eighteen. We don't need to talk on cell phones, but sometimes it's requirement from a safety standpoint. Now during the race, if you're trying to promote a race on Instagram or Facebook or Twitter or listen to 'em Lauren dot com, you can't do it. You're missing out on people who would gladly promote your event. One of the things we should point out is they have a big transformation project going on in a few weeks here or less than a few weeks a week. Probably they're going to start digging the new tunnel that's going to be enhanced there. They got a big infield project going on. Part of that is why five throughout the infield area. Let's hope that that let's hope that that comes to fruition because it would there was just not a good signal there all weekend long. I love that word fruition fruition. You like that because it looks like fruit. It's it's as good as Sliven fruit ish and fruit. All right. We gotta take a break. We'll be right back. Citywide to countryside, whatever you drive, wherever you go. Perk, Yalies tires has the value selection at industry leading warranty to get you there? No matter where the road takes you. To learn more visit for these tire dot com. Hercules tires ride on our strength. Bloom in crane, put a trip on the Bobby. Blue. Thought it, boom. Outback steak die. 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Now they crash in collide per struck through Timothy Peters, three white behind them as others. Begin to crash field had taken the white flag, and it looks like your winner will be Timothy Peters. Timothy Peters goes to victory lane for racing. And what did you think of that move on the backstretch because they were all jumbled together bouncing off each other, coming back to the checkered flag aggressive drive, man. You're coming back for a win. Nobody's trying to wreck. And that's the thing that we tend to overlook. Nobody wants to wreck and sometimes trucks occupy the stained space at the same time, does it work, doesn't work. The trucks are already bumping into each other trying to push and you could tell you right before the spin. Exactly. Right. So they're already touching the first thing that you have to have in order to have two trucks wrecking is the touch. I right, Yep. But may not. Normally what we've already took it we took an to well struggling. I got a good day going here. Happy Monday. And actually we already taken the first step out of the equation. We're touching already now. It's just a matter of getting one loose or pushing the other one loose, and really Noah Gregson got. There's some drivers that he didn't do anything wrong. Right, and that's good. They understand supposed to try and keep guys from getting by actually, right. Exactly right. So that's what we see at Talladega racing. The truck race at Talladega and Daytona to me is the hit me of drafting. It's great, great racing. You didn't see what we saw on Sunday with fourteen four cars dominating a field. Every truck could pass every other truck. It didn't matter whether it was a lower funded team or higher given the right circumstances and every raft lines you asked somebody and that was really cool about it. Noah Grayson did what he thought he had to do. Now. One of the things he gets reprimanded for is always pushing the limit. I would rather have to pull the reins on my driver than have to whip him. Yeah, you can slow him down. It's hard to speed on Acura. We can always slow the horse down. We can always pull the bride a little bit and say, whoa, Dan wants the horses at town should be all your gun. If you're trying to whip that horse to go faster a lot of times. Now, from a driver standpoint, we can slow, Noah Grayson down. Obviously, he's got a new ride next year with a new. Crew chief yet. We'll see you hang on, hang on and don't don't get ahead hand. And so kudos to them guys for trion Timothy Peters messes, third win at Talladega filling in obviously from a previous time, he didn't have a ride beginning of the year. He filled in for Spencer Gallagher a little bit. And then once once a driver opened up and sergeant sergeant opened up that twenty-five truck, they were allowed to put him with Peter, and he brought that team to victory lane for GM s. all right. Let's hear what Timothy had to say after the race at Talladega you know to not knowing what you plans are after may twenty seventeen and to get a phone call from Mike and Maury, and everybody GM's reysen to to come in to go to Canada to run the next three and his three tracks that we've ran will and to come to tell the Dagan while it feel so special. You know, God is good. He's got a plan and I'm just glad to be here sitting from you guys and talking about my day coming off a turn to. I mean, you know, we're. Down to the checkered flag and trying to make the best of it obviously knows going forward to, you know, it was at a bog guy. You know, at that point, it didn't matter. I wasn't gonna lift and hated that that come what it was, but you know, feels good to cross that finish line knowing that we won the race. So I guess the question comes down to do you want to be the nice guy who lifts and maybe let somebody run into the back of you or the guy who's trying to get maybe some more opportunities who's going to keep the the pedal to the metal, so to speak and drive around and try and get the win as a kid. One of the first games that I can remember playing the game of chicken, right? And that's gonna lift who's gonna lift who's going to get out of the way if you're coming head on, if nobody lifts there are no winners, right, right. But if you push the issue in the guy that rolls out of the way, it's he lost the game, but it did. He really lose. Right. And that's what these guys are playing on this. This is a game of chicken. It's a game and Brad Lexa, call it a game of chess, but this is a game of chicken where you're trying to get the other guy to make the move. That you want him to make not the move that he wants to make. And we see that throughout the day and on the last lap coming to the checker. You see a lot of games a chicken. Absolutely. Let's move to Noah Gregson now because he's going to move to the extent decide next year to go to junior motorsports to drive the one car to replace Elliott Sadler who stepping down at the end of the season. There's a whole situation there about the crew chief who it's going to be. Kevin. Mentoring has worked with Elliott Sadler. Now he's going to move up to the Cup side at Hendrick motorsports and work with Jimmy Johnson. Here's what Noah had to say. Don't know who my crew chiefs going to be. I was reading on Twitter yesterday and I'm like. Man met mentoring. I think that sounds like the guy crew chiefs. The number one car I like JR n. a. started putting things together. I'm like, I think that's supposed to be like my crew chief Wisey crew chiefs, and Jimmy Johnson next year didn't have an opportunity to run time. Job is racing those those are number one pick and to stay within that Toyota racing camp. They've been really good to me, twelve and TR d. they've been a huge part of my career this far and so just really want to thank them, but it just wasn't meant to be. So we kind of had to go look for other options and junior Roger sports. Was interested in myself and. Both the puzzle piece kind of fit together. And so I'm really excited for the opportunity. So silly season continues Gregson moves over to junior motor sports. I think that'll be a really good fit, but he doesn't yet know who is crew. Chief will be right. And the reason Kevin meandering is going over to crew chief. Jimmy Johnson is his longtime seventeen year cleven championship seven championships. I've sat right here and said eight championships, as long as they stay together. That was the key ingredient. I always thought those two, we've seen Ray Everett Hammond, Jeff Gordon's split, and I believe that was a dynasty that that didn't happen while Dale Earnhardt at went through a couple of crew chiefs in his seven championships, he ended up winning another crew championship Petri. I don't know of Jimmy Johnson. We'll get back to the, I think he'll win plenty of more races who, but with Kevin meandering, you start rebuilding that relationship. I mean, being honest with ourselves, how many more years is Jimmy Johnson? How having driving? He says, he's he's in at least a handful of more years. I see. No more than five, right. I say that's a good guess if you talking, but. It's a difficult situation. There was obviously something not working. Chad canal is still very smart. Jimmy Johnson's is still very good, hasn't forgotten how to actually right, but something wasn't working and now is a good time as ever to bring a new crew chief in for Jimmy Johnson and allow Chad canals to go over to a younger kid with William Byron and work together and try to build him up so to to opportunities presenting themselves, and we'll see how it works in two thousand nineteen. So as you say, this takes us back to last week when we had a chance to go to Henrik motor sports and talk to Jimmy Johnson and check out about the change of team announced the big story. Obviously, you guys won't be together after this season and apparently it's been talked about for a few weeks, but why now was there a giant food fight that we don't know about? Or was it just simply time? I think it's much more in the it's simply time category and it's been been longer than a few weeks. Honestly, this decision isn't one that was just made on a whim and then he short order and it took, you know, a collaboration in. In, you know, a lot of a lot of time and effort and discussion between Chad, Rick and myself, and even out to Jeff Andrews. Another other people here within the company Jeff Gordon's been involved. So we've we've done a ton together. We've had an amazing run, but just feels like it's time for us to pursue different opportunities. We're still here for one another to support each other in still very, very close friends, but it's it's just just kind of time we're, we're going to go in different directions and I'm going to be his biggest cheerleader. Rooting him on and I know the same for me. So Jimmy Johnson will work with Kevin hindering who had been with Elliott Sadler when this was announced. Elliot said he gave Kevin mentoring a lot of credit for really revitalizing his career. On the other hand, Chad canal, I believe, as you mentioned, can really help young William Byron reaches potential. Yeah. Whenever you see a young kid come into the sports, sometimes they, they have a lot of energy, but it needs to be directly focused. There's nobody more disciplined on. Focus than Chad canals in that garage right now, so that that's a great relationship. The meandering one coming in with Jimmy Johnson. It'll be curious to see the the aspect of the veteran seven-time championship. If he's going to be the leader of the team or the crew chief, which should be and he's done a really good job over junior motorsports. I still believe they're going to do some good things here with right. He champions, Joe has a championship. Exactly, right. I still believe those guys are. That's still my pick. I've been saying that all year and I I could be wrong. I, it's it's a roll the dice, but I thought the experience and with the relationship between those two, they've what they've done over at union motorsports in that one car him being going out is final year two thousand eighteen. I still thought big things for them. All right. We got one more break here, a motor sports Monday. When we come back, we'll look ahead that Kansas specifically with Martin treks junior. On the Bobby. Thought it, boom. Outback steak to die. That would its own up. Chris rockets straight from the NASCAR stands here with another member of our Toyota racing family, Jason. Hi there. Oh, you seem impatient. Oh, well, I've been holding it in for awhile awhile since it started the race now this season while because you don't want to miss any action? Nope, I don't own. Did you just eat Denny handling? Take the lead? I haven't taken my eyes off him lease and you don't look so good can offer you some water. Absolutely not NASCAR. 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Monday presented by outback steakhouse. No blooming onion this week. Kevin Harvick for once didn't get a top ten finish. So you'll have to wait another week to see if he can get you a freebie at outback steakhouse, but go by any way. They got a lot of great specials going on right now. You should check it out. Now let's shift our attention to Kansas where we had this week, both the Cup and Finnity series are going to run there. What are the particulars about that track? Because after a long time talking about how that surface wasn't weathering in, it seems to be getting there now. Yeah, it'll be our cut off. It's a cutoff rates, very, very, very, very important for two of the teams that were associated with the twelve and the two. We saw poor performances for poor results. After Talladega put those two in a whole. You've got Alex Bowman and Kyle Larson behind them as we're wrapping up the the eleventh and twelfth spot, they're really must win here. Absolutely. We need something to happen over need to win the two car. Martin tricks junior goes there right there at the cutoff line, but that's going to be a really good track for him. That track is starting to. Y, Nell, Kyle Larson should be widening out. We see him right on the cutoff point. BRAC Laskey Ryan Blaney still potentially in on points as Larson that we good track for him. Alex Bowman is a must win situation. Obviously, Eric Merola, chase Elliott lead the top two with those winds. But really the surprise here in which is one of the things I called the big three. He runs the risk of not making it to the third round, and he's he's using some playoff points now to stay where he is if he didn't have those, he would be in worse shape than he is. So Martin to Rex junior was asked about racing at Kansas where he's got a pretty good record. You know, I'm not sure about why it's it's played a big part. I mean, you know, like I said earlier, every single track we go to has potential to shake things up, has potential for big things to happen. You look at restarts today and how crazy they are and how everybody. You know, just try to get every single thing they can get on restarts. That's really, I think what's changed the game in the last year. Whatever ten, you know, eight or ten years or whatever. Since we've been doing double file restarts and Kansas is just a fast track with with a lot of options group wise and we can spread out and run all over and that that has potential to cause problems. I remember when Kansas was only one group track after the repave and I remember a day when Kyle Busch couldn't seem to get out of his own way. It can just and now we seems to have figured it out Kyle, Busch struggle. They're Clint boy, that's his home tracks. I think that let me Martin tricks, junior home track like they're all his home track is, but but he gives you an idea there about how Kansas has changed over the last time. We talked about restarts man. We're going to be hectic there with a cut off race and a lot of guys having to win to get in. It's going to be interesting as well for the Finnity series as they had to that track. You can catch it. All right here on the motor racing network on Friday. We've got qualifying for the Cup series that comes your way seven o'clock eastern time on Saturday, the affinity series, Kansas lottery. Three hundred comes your way at two thirty eastern time Sunday. The big event. The monster, energy Cup series, Hollywood casino, four hundred. That's one thirty eastern time on Sunday also don't forget NASCAR. Live Tuesday night at seven o'clock with Mike Bagley all the time at Emma dot com. Find out what's going on there. I'm what he he's Joey. We'll see you right back here next week.
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That's their love dot com slash dollar. Fifteen percent off today. Tell Dave -centia. And you're listening to the. It's nice. That was that was so much longer than what Phoenix did last night the whole, man. Yeah. Phoenix came right away. Let's bring out our guests. Ladies and gentlemen. I don't even have to say what she's from Karen Garum. We'll do show and everything. Nineteen sixty six. Yeah. Time. And Tom the. Yeah. The ice skater, right? Yeah. Founded the church of Saint. Lee was a professional organist who turned into a cultist. Basically played in bars and burlesque shows, and then he was like played the Oregon at bars if someone like place behind bars, buddy. Can we just get how much to get you to leave dont tell you? Tell you Jesus Christ this guy. How do you get that pipe organ here? Like eight Oregon songs Bannon. This is a nightmare. I can't dance to it. But he wasn't the only demonic satanic thing going. The people of America were about to get a large occult shock in the name of the medicine family. We're actually talking about some pretty bad shit right now. Sorry, we're thinking of the partridges. Sorry. We do that all the time. Great. If the man's Partridge sort of family show, the Manson family come guys, we got a big murder Friday. Squeaky fromm gets braces. And then she can hear songs through the radio and our braces. Family ever because it seemed like Lori had schizophrenia it was just braces. Nine times out of ten. It is. A lot of time. Of course, the Manson family, we go on a famous murder spree during the summer of nineteen sixty-nine in Los Angeles. Charles Manson was then the man to be afraid of the nation was shocked because the organized religious re re ritualistic nature of the crimes that same year. Levine published his philosophical treatise the satanic bible, which we own. Yes. Yes. Read it every morning. This ten bible mostly plagiarized, several sources regurgitated philosophies of writers like h l Menken and rind the most satanic of the mall. It's weird. I feel like she would be in the regular bible Tannock when I would love to get a different vibe from. But it sounds so they're just kind of similar n rand. She's I know who she is. Yeah. Then that. Is one of the greatest conservative minds of our time. I guess he knew easy easy to like. So pretty great things. A lot of cool. Hot takes hot takes. She wrote that column hotcakes. That's right. As people that next. It's gonna be a long one. If we do for everyone. Become a game as people became concerned about this rise in satanism the novel. The exorcist was released and became a bestseller. Okay. So good art was picking up the country's feeling. The book was then turned into a successful film. Claim to be based on a true story. Yeah. I am taking questions. Are you going to talk about the fact that there was an actual serial killer in the film? Did you know that? There's a. Are you talking about the one that came down the stairs like a spider? No. That was that was the girl when she goes in to get like crazy, and it's really upsetting hostile seen. The x Ray technician was a serial killer in real I r L how many how many people that? He tap. I don't think they call it that I think it's a medical term. Can't remember, no or? It's gotta be pretty classic medical. It's start. You get used to the new stop. It must be so crazy to have that guy on set after being a serial murderer sitting there is probably like, no that's not how you do. But as C let us see it. Do it. No, no. I would get too into it. As I always do. Make some punch. Doctor thought about just dipping your hand in a rubbing blood on your face. You don't work here at never have. And. Your scraps colored doesn't even match everybody else. Scrubs is nice. Honestly, where did you get black scrubs? These are bottomless pajamas at most. People were now freaked out about the possibility of demons and Satan, the ouija board was no longer harmless fund. It was now a malevolent device that could bring harmful spirits or demonic infestation into your home. Sure that seventy-two satanic seller was published satanic seller the books and magazines. Okay. You mean super downstairs the Tannock seller? This is where we keep the old vintage. Anyone want some double potatoes? They're down on this Tannock's seller. S E L L E R. Like, Peter Sellars. Yes. This is where all my characters. Peter. Hello. It was popping up. What an abstract tour. The Pink Panther. And it just says it out loud. Oh, lord. It was a memoir by a Christian evangelist who recounted his orphan childhood spent in intense Tannock worship. As he became a young adult who served at ten hype as as Tannock high priests and enjoy the perks like ritualised sex orgies drugs. And robes also all the robes, you could wear the robe. Oh, my God, the robe robes five robes day. Yeah. He said he presided over satanic rituals, including magical spells and the summoning demons and everybody bought it. Well, not everybody but religious folks bought it within three months. It was a religious bestseller in nineteen seventy five. He put out a live album called a live. What? Okay, let's ounce. Did he cover? Mostly try to this. John Denver burnin for you. His mostly blue always culpa almost all Lewis. Louis goals. So he puts the alive was about as conversion from Satan is into Christianity. That's cool. The entire book would be completely discredited. But not for twenty years LeVine, put out another books. Rituals also pushed the claim that dark occult rituals were now a routine part of life for many Americans. Sure. Yep. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Seventies. I was a kid. I'd be riding my bike around. There's another or like it was just nonstop say Tannock stuff half a grapefruit in the morning, you get on that exercycle worship Satan for half an hour embalm. And then you're out to the office of the office. Pretend you're not crazy all day. Wait, just pine for robes. I'm gonna get I'm wearing. More than six robes than I don't give a shit time. It's almost robe timed. We found the budget robes of the garbage can of the communal kitchen. I don't know what you're talking about it. I'm talking to everybody. Very crazy way to respond to a group meeting. I thought you said it was a goat meeting know what? Tearing a lot of killing the go tonight. Hey, we're at Starbucks. The seventy saw a bunch of self proclaimed. Former Satan is saying the world was being run by ritualised ritualistic Satan, which colts. There was John Todd who said he'd been born into a Satan his family and had been a witch while serving in the navy. That's the position right? Well, it'd be keep fighting you might make which. Glad a position to Johnson Chemi the ship witch. I'm here. Captain. I have been the whole time. Cast a spell on them. Russians shell indeed bubble bubble. How do you keep that hat on? Stapled on us. It's hard. And here it is. So it's very windy tough on them up there. I'm peeling back the curtain. I can't every now. And then my Lord, I'm one of you. There was Herschel Smith who began dabbling in satanism as young teen eventually said he was called the skin eater. Because he eat pieces of his own skin any pieces that people gave to him. Who's giving him skim who I'm not saying it's your own skin the seventies. We're just how shit was walking. Real people. Cool where am whereabouts skin where you're here? We eight. But also once you're known as the skinny people are just oh, you're labeled. It's like when you say you like frogs, and everyone gets you a frog. It's the same thing. He likes eating skin. Yeah. That frog things on it super personal. We have well of preferences. You're going to get so many frogs. So and then there was David Hansen who was aboard high school gym teacher who saw a sickness on television one night and thought it sounded cool. Wait, he's so what until says he said he said one he was watching TV and he saw satanist. Oh. Okay. Sure that happened all the time in the seventies after the love boat. There was the Satan as preach. Our think we stayed up too late hung. And then he started going to say Tannock church and Thousand Oaks. Yes. A great one. Where's my local branch? Oh Thousand Oaks, that's good options. Equa- distant what's the other Thousand Oaks Sherman? Basically, you're looking at some state nece though, I am in West Lake where we have a new chapter opening up their July. I don't know if you want to postpone worshipping, the devil till van wow saver somewhere. It is going to be a very hot spa. Yeah. That sounds good grade. And NCA. That's it. I was in the navy. No. In. They had orgies every Saturday. Sure. He worship the devil for two years, then converted to Christianity. It's a hard turn. Tough tournament. That's what the kid like punk rock and drug out of kids in high school. Do they just go hard for a couple of years? And then they fuck in love with geez. Find out and then you can't even have a little Satan around him for the rest of your life. Now. Make sense feels like a dozen, okay? Like the offer author offer like the author of Satan seller. They all grew up in southern California where Manson had really done a number on people's brains. Sellers don't exist here. It's true though. Dave hard doing show with two Gareth's. Not sure where we're finding compliments. Yeah. Gonna say it's actually Gary. Here you of all people. I don't wanna get involved. All right that Jerry Springer Steve wilko's gang. Thanks for your healthcare. So each of these guys said they had conversion experiences with just happen to make their stories very appealing to Christians. Smith tour. He purchased a witch mobile. For sure which was constructed by his fellow Christians. It was a traveling anti Colt exhibit made up of witchcraft paraphernalia, cool, which was designed to educate Christians about the trappings and hazards of the Colt by covering your car in which witches. Yes. Witch hat on top. Oh, I should be a witch guys. Right. Hit the horn. You Florida brooms that comes out here. We go. Every one of them were linked to the new rising fundamentalist Christian, right? Todd was supported by Jack chick who use Todd's claims to create comic style pamphlets that attack satanism so sub hand out for the kids. Yeah. Fun comics for the kids. Can I just tell you really close a man knocked on my door the other day, and he had a pamphlet, and it had a hand-drawn woman holding our own head and the headline said will the suffering ever end. I was like I've bad news. I don't need to see your pamphlet. I know the answer to this. Thanks for reminding me, sir. Thanks showing up. It's never gonna end. Is it, sir? Well, thanks coming by. Did you hope as witnesses came by my house the other day, they are fun? Great. There's been a lot of shootings and climate change. With they said a lot of shootings inclement a lot of shootings and clamp. They're trying to say everything's going bags wanted to freak out. It'd be like what's the answer? The answer is ten people get into heaven, and you should have shitty. Life. Because it sounds like open mic comedy. It was like what else is in the news. Climate chain. Satanic vans. Which cars, which which mobile which which man. So Todd posted expert and satanism for the fundamental the evangelical Christian community, so he's just making the rounds as an expert firing people up telling people about the child that he had made up at as an example of how Satan really real Satan is a Mark. So you had these guys who made fake books, and then they went out as experts around the country and told people fake stories, so everyone's kind of getting riled up. There's also time on there. A lot of serial killers at work zodiac, the alphabet killer, Ted Bundy, John Wayne, gay, see the hillside stranglers on a Sam many of whom are so creepy real who's who? Also, there's a whole bevy of freeway killers that you didn't even go to them three freeway. Keller's going at one time in the seventies. It was very competitive time. There's so much commuting. Especially to do it at rush hour bowl. Just us. Really isn't. It was like zodiac would just be like oh guys being a clown. Like nice. Nice. Okay. So he's a prop comic. Nice nice real original pal. Holy shifts that what it's come to the game. The media fed the fear, particularly in the cases of zodiac and send a Sam New York was basically in a panic. So all this is going on Christian fundamentalism keeps rising the ones who could save you from Satan. Yeah. Thank you. They had a literal belief in a battle that about what was going on between angels and devils guys like Jerry Falwell has more on majority. Founded at this time and nine hundred seventy nine became very popular. There was also Pat pulling who became an anti-cult crusader after she claimed her son committed suicide because of dungeons and dragons. It's hard to follow up. But if you've ever lost a level twenty six. Dave don't do the gay. Get me the show. Day. For God's sake. Twani David shut up shut up. Shut your mouth. He's christ. That's I say Tannock seller seriously. But it's not funny like the Pink Panther. They made I think that's the one they made a movie out of Tom Hanks. That's dragons. And then and then he eventually wanders off into the maze of caves, and is never seen you being serious. There's a Tom Hanks like I think it was a TV movie. What did he was talking? Very very like like around this time like eight. Okay. I think it's pretty bosom buddies, which is very politically, correct. Yeah. He he gets into dungeons and dragons, slowly, loses his mind. Okay. I thought this had happened like in the last ten years, and I was a very choice on Tom's saying Tom Hanks now he moved to Beverly Glen and started playing dragon lost his shit. Larry Crowne was not a good movie. We'd all spin out if we were the star of Larry. Let's still so everything seemed very scary. This time on the world. Sure ages starting the kids around milk cartons who've been kidnapped. There's the Tylenol martyrs trick or treat scares are happening America's becoming a panicked and terrified stranger danger. Terrifying. Uneven could be lurking right around every corner was safe. Satan was everywhere. Even it seems at Proctor and gamble. Wait, wait. What did you say? Sir. I said Satan was everywhere. And even it seems I thought Campbell. Yeah. That's what I said. Okay. Just wanted to make sure we're got okay. Party's over cared. Right now, Nick is like. Right. Proctor and gamble was started in Cincinnati on October thirty first eighteen thirty seven when candle maker William Proctor and so- maker James gamble, married. Two sisters of the same family. Yeah. Among among being important moment. Also, real high. Hello, dr. She's a mighty fine. Lady of ended up with. We'll, of course, Kimball. Well, known to you, my friend. Their new that'll be the end of our dialogue for now. Surely more will come visit. Their new father in law called the meeting in talked William and James into becoming business partners starting Proctor and gamble. Okay. By eighteen fifty nine sales reached one million dollars the company on a contract to supply the union army during the civil war, and it grew and grew and grew in the eighteen eighties. Proctor and gamble. Had a new product inexpensive, soap that floated. Flowed soaps. So before this time, I guess in the bath, you'd lose your soap. And you'd be like that's the end obey than properly. Every bar of soap was filled with gold Doubloon just go right to the bottom five hundred dollars. That's my live. My listing. The soap was called ivory. Game changer. Never looked at ivory this way. Again, you walk down the give little fucking nod change the whole fucking soap. I don't think any. I don't think anybody should be shouting check my in CVS or head nodding and other soaps and thanking them for their service in public pharmacies. Tip of the cat. Don't tip your cap to very stop me. I respect the soap my God, sir. It's so floaty. Talking. Do it. William Arnett Procter was now in charge. He gave workers to stake in the company because he knew would make them less likely to strike. He was right. The company built more and more factories around the US because demand was high. Proctor and gamble logo. Was first created by company Warf workers when they started marking candle crate boxes with a star was a crude star around which they drew a circle. The pentagram, right. That's what we're talking about. Why won't anyone say? Did they draw with fragmented bone or something really horrifying? When they do. Sorry, guys. Hey. Eat rats, the company liked it. And took it a little further. They made thirteen small stars in a circle one for each of the original colonies. Okay. And in an eighteen seventy five somebody decided the face of the Mon should be in there. So they put a crescent moon in a profile view on the right side of the circle on overtime. The Lagos refined in a nineteen. Thirty moon phase was much larger and had hair a beard curly beard. I think I'm gonna start talking to. So honestly, I don't know in eighteen ninety. Jim Peters was living in Saint Paul Minnesota where he was the music director at these Zion Christian life centre, Jim was also from family of anti rock crusaders. Who had started a record burning campaign in nineteen seventy eight. Yeah. Fuck you burn those fucking earn. Earn my ass. What Aerosmith my ass, I'm here. Okay. Rephrase your protests slogan. Aerosmith my butthole. Oh, cool to catch up with this guy. Have you been pretty good part of your church? You have to knowledge. We're a community. Satan seems pretty cool. He's just been making casual I said butthole, you can listen to whatever music you want. Yeah. I like that it's sort of an exclusive anybody. Okay. Man. Cool. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you. Thanks for that. That's awesome. That means a lot. Thank you for saying that we're going to move on though because we're having our own conversation. Okay. I'm gonna talk to God. Hey, man. What's up? No. Don't what I didn't say. No. I was gonna. Don't look up and talk to me anymore. Honestly, like, I'm over this. Okay. I just didn't think this is how it would go. Well, it never has. But I'm just like so over the years. So I don't know. It's just like, yeah. Like just don't look somewhere else, man. Honestly, I'm not looking at anymore. Just looking at my bible, and I feel sad. Stop looking at that. I don't want you look at that. That's my own thing. Stop. That's my stuff. What am I? Dude. I'm like trying to get off of the thing that we're communicating through right now. My head. I'm trying to get out of it. So seriously, I gotta make another rare. So can like get out of this hang this up. So I I got a need to use this line. Fuck fuck you God. So much nicer dude, literally, I'm trying to reach someone else. Hang up. He has orgies in Thousand Oaks what shift. Back. Verges at Thousand Oaks ranch style Ortiz. Yeah. Okay. Jim Peters had two brothers, Dan. And Steve sure, and they had become they got a little bit of fame for seminars that they did and a documentary called the truth about rock. It's all the same three chords. That's the actual truth. It's all eagles songs. Anyone can play me as meet me in the lobby after I'll tell you all about. They had up hopper. Their head popular rock album burnings in Minneapolis. Oh, that's awesome. Steve became the go-to guy when the media want to talk about the dangers of rock music. The media loved to talk about satanism, they were very good with a cult obsession and fear mongering. Jim Peters went on Nightline entertainment tonight, the seven hundred club and the Jesse Sally Jesse Raphael show, reputable programs all of them. And what sorry what we're his qualifications. He was against rock. Okay. That'll do it. Top of the resume. Scandalous. Let's do it. The Peter's brothers made great arguments against rock, for instance, kiss stands for kids in service to Satan. Does it does it does it really does those bastard? I know they lied to us did lie. What it's not about Frenching. Oh my God. Yeah. Only sexual move. Okay. With look into the eyes of gene Simmons, the bible tells us, the eyes are the windows of the soul. Nobody's home there. Okay. They got that one. That one is right. That is. Every once in a while you nail one just I have to say I saw him once at the Burbank airport and his hair you can see his hair coming from like fifty feet. It's the weirdest hair you've ever seen. And so it was like I was talking to somebody who had their back to him. And I'm like Jane SIMS coming into like that. And I was like let and he didn't catch on. And then some and saw me doing it and he made a beeline over to the two of us. It was like what's going on over here. It's that level. Yes. We are like and didn't say anything just kept going. I wanna talk to gene Simmons. Well, I'm south was seating group. A eleven guys. That's basically backstage. You want wanna board with a board? We'll see where it goes. I could tell you in love with me point. I got me. Swooning? All right. Well, I know where to get a free Gatorade. I should. Another quote the cover of an ounce part on Parsons project album has girls with syphilis sores on their faces cloaked by veils that was big in the seventies though. Just go civilised sore. I don't think they had occasion to help out with syphilis source. And early nights Nadya. Rumors started a Minnesota that Proctor and gamble was owned by the Reverend soon a young moon and his Unification Church, which is a cult shirt. UPI quote, the moon room or apparently mushroomed from the Lakeview nursing home. That's where a lot of good theories come from. A lot of good day room at that nursing home bed series. Larry Schultz, the administrator of the nursing home satis stories submitted by a staff member was published in the nursing home newspaper in the nursing home newspaper. All those Dover times has a breaking story. Follow the light weeklies. Got a breaking news bulletin. Leaded happen. Newspapers seems generous generous I do call them kick feel my feet. And it's the same on every week. Martha. I can't feel my seat. Where? The nursing newspaper newsletter. Letters. It's a newsletter. Stated the Unification Church controlled Proctor and gamble. Oh. Well, there you go. There proof was that. There was a crescent moon face on the company's logo. Well, there you have next. This was taken to the very logical conclusion that moons followers owned the company and word then spread from the nursing home out into the population soda that is just not it should not spread like that old folks. Home should not be airborne. It's not an airborne disease. Why did that happen? How did that happen? Because got a fucking copy of that paper was like I might have to call the times. A nurse type this up. But I think this might be real. And if you look under Martha's foot is numb. Which is a great column every week. I can't feel my feet. All righty. So talk about boycotting Procter and gamble began spreading throughout the state. It became such a problem that the company felt that respond public. That's the best. Hey, we not from the church of Satan. And again, I just want to make products that help you guys we do not drink blood. We'd love Satan here. Procter gamble. We're just trying to help you guys out. The fact that we even had to call. This is a little. A spokesman said they were not owned by anyone associated with Reverend Moon. The moon was just part of an old trademark from one hundred years ago. And some of the company actually thought it was silly. So the Proctor and gamble. The Satan is it's very silly. That seems crazy that would be nuts for us to do. What of our just stare at it for a while imagine. Larry, I haven't left as hard ever. So the Proctor and gamble logo story. It was in the news in Minneapolis where Jim Peters lived within a week. The Star Tribune reported that many local religious people have been assured moon followers. Do not own the company. But there was something more sinister of foot good. The actual mood. Yeah. Quote, since publication of that article last Friday several people have called and written the Tribune to say they have it on good authority that the Proctor and gamble symbol. Actually is a seat Tannock symbol, and that the very same symbol is on the door of Satan is church in Minneapolis. Or Saint Paul? Saint Paul's rude place to have Satan this church. Color. The paper said he got the information from people in his church who attended a meeting on the evils of rock music. That's what you get for going. One of those. That should be learned that there have been a rally of eleven hundred people virtually every church in town at advertised it. That's where these people heard about the Tanit connection to Proctor and gamble quote. The man who linked the system of Satan ISM. Sorry. The man who linked the symbol of satanism was Jim Peters. When question Jim acknowledged it. And that it was his great theory, quote, Peter said, he is primarily interested in stamping out the eagles of rock and that he devotes only two or three minutes units, which are rock minutes. There. Muniz music minutes mute. It's it's we're doing a new unit of musing. It's called the muted. Communit- measuring those now. Peter said he is primarily interested in stamping out the evils of rock, and then he devotes only two or three minutes of each music seminar to Proctor and gamble. So this is all essentially come in from one guy right now right now, then plenty guy one guy started reading reading about the the nursing home strike removed. And then he was like oh just throw some Procter gamble ship. Okay. From a nurse. We just gotta start listening to these people. I think we're gonna have a lot more fun. If we lose it up taking them serious. Sorry. I feel like that's all we're doing Marica. Erica. Could be argue. I'm talking about the Ida congress. It's true. The nursing homes really have it right now. One of those ducks is trying to kill Gabriella jury that in the Washington Post fascinating. We're going to get a new window. That's cool. Yeah. I got here about that. We're getting new window. So so at turns out Jim Peters was upset that Proctor and gamble. Sponsored TV programs that contain sex and profanity and when he looked into the company he saw the logo. And then he said the exact drawing the logo was in a book, titled amulets and superstitions. It was a symbol of a coven of which is from the thirteenth century. The Tribune reported to staff members then look through the book and did not find the symbol. So they went back to Jim. And he said he also found this symbol in a book at the library. Okay. So it's an another book. But that book you could remember the name of that book was like that one. I don't know. Okay. Audio boats in there. That's what it was. Jim then set a local bookstore had the crescent above its doorway. And that it was owned by quote, the number two in command of white witchcraft of white witchcraft you have white craft you white craft. It sounds like gyms just naming things. Now. He's sounds actually done some investigation about say, okay. They just keep coming back to assure you know, where it was the groceries. That's where it was. Well, check their the Tribune investigated and reported the symbol as a plane crescent moon with no face. And it was framed by a rectangle and it was based on the almanac. The owner then said he was not at all socio witchcraft. We'll of course, he did what they say. I've got a portal the hell. Okay. That's fair. He did live in Florida. So that's not great. It's not not we've all seated near Cardi bar. So I'm gonna Floros listening. Just went never coming here. Literally, probably tweet Adam that we're not all crazy. So the trivia went back to Jim. And he said that he had sent three letters to Proctor and gamble asking them to explain their corporate symbol. Each time he received letters form letters explaining how this came to be okay. Which is what you would send crazy. Sure. Yeah. For sure practicing. Proctor and gamble told the Tribune they couldn't do anything about these. Rumors, quote, people will believe what they want to and people did. The year was nineteen eighty we were peak American say Tannock panic, but with so many things to be worried about as far as the influence of Satan, Satan, rituals daycare sentence centers adult for another day, the Proctor charges just did that one. She did. Yeah. The McMartin so unbelievable. Just really quickly the one of the people that was came forward and said that they were an expert on on recovered memory, and all that kind of stuff had absolutely no did not have a college education. Had no degrees had did not study child educates. You actually, the janitor. What's going on? Just truly is a woman came out of no arm was like I'm gonna get this. And then she put on some puppets. And literally certain does my favorite part of toria chew when she was interviewing these children who are just repeating back. What adults are saying to them at if she asked them a question, and they didn't answer the way she wanted. She called them stupid through a puppet. Oh my God. No, that's not the answer. And then they'd make up something else. And that's how that whole fucking story came to be. But we're those stupid yet. They're all what are you gonna do the dark Lord? I'm as the Dyson put a puppet on college kids stoop. Here. All right. I'll see Chris say something horrible happened. You idiot. So good. So. So with all those kind of things going on the Proctor and gamble satanic logo connection. Kind of drifted away. It seem Proctor and gamble have been right, right. People believe they want to sit a worry about all seems. Well, sure until October nineteen Eighty-one. Okay. Oh, just a year later it began on the west coast of finally that. Yeah. Yeah. California, Oregon and Washington, they just got news. This call started flooding into Procter and gamble. So some elderly home like written up up head. And among other things macaroni makes you drowsy. Sorry. That's not the right one. Doctor gamble. They're saying, that's it. Plus Shelley's legs are known the great column. It's just people saying they're never gonna by Proctor and gamble again. Because they're saying connection and sure they call soon increased to two thousand a month. People were furious. They were upset that proctoring that the president of Procter and gamble had gone on the Phil Donahue show and quote, come out of the closet about a support for the church of Satan. What about this is true? None right. The president. Then went on to say a large portion of profits from Procter and gamble products goes to support the church of Satan. Oh what which point Donahue asked the president? Whether it's ties with satanism would hurt businesses his business and the president responded, quote, they're not enough Christians in the US to make a difference. My god. Also newspaper broke a story is actually what happened on the also said the logo was satanic. Indeed. And people started telling the friends and relatives they'd seen this episode of Donohue. David. I don't think this was on Donahue. It's not cheerless. Turns out the president of Proctor and gamble. Did not go on Donahue and claim to be all right? Okay. Was it? Anybody wasn't anybody wasn't the guy from Johnson and Johnson. The total. Out of nowhere. It was the inventor of Prell. I am obviously in love with say. That's why I've made real. Prow comes from. One flavor free. Where is still around sort of is it body washes the chiampou Prell brow? The product that Glaister. Your body clock is right? Now in green, always green Brown. Go to. But now there's a new wrinkle in the Proctor and gamble logo. Rumor it was pointed out that the curls in the beard. How big is this logo? This what? Detail who's their local guy? He's like, here's we can make it a map. The logo will be a wall-sized map. The rivers are beard hairs, if you read each hair, Dan, Dan, Dan, what are we talking about? It's going to be this small you'll have to spend a lifetime. Reading the logo to understand all the true. I mean, my wife left years ago. Yes. Years and years ago, she left about eight years ago. Nobody's checked on me. And i've. That's bad. Cut made. What has a hose turn it on spray it on my tech flash? What's a woman? Anyway, Alleyen voice, y'all. Obviously send along the invoice which has a logo to buy company. It's not as endless, but it's a pickle. Oh my God. Probably should've done a screen for this one. But you can't really see go everybody. Not see that. All right. Let's move on. The beard. Here's were unbelievable. Currently talk about chaos and facial. So. The beard curls in the beard and the hair of the moon. Resembled the numbers six six six. Each pattern of curls happen. A series of three. Also when connected there were three distinct patterns in the thirteen stars created another series of three sixes. Say no more. Pretty definitive to me. I mean, I'm just picturing the guy that designed the logo and you just like. Let's say Tannock and just like get it done. Different tanks. This low either way he's a winner. Just doesn't twenty minutes. He was Satan. This whatever gets paid. I gotta get outta here by three busy a really underpay for your logo watch this. Of course, your take like he wasn't in the logo union. Now, the maker of ivory soap head and shoulders shampoo. Pampers and folger's coffee realized they had an actual problem on their hands. So the company started reaching out to media letters were sent to all television stations in California, Oregon and Washington to deny the rumor it had absolutely no effect. The rumors spread and soon calls were coming in from the mid west. Oh, no. Here we go the fuses lit. Let's get nuts. Indiana's lighting up. The most calls came from Indiana by God. Amazing. Top in your top ten. Mandy. The rumor was affecting pro Proctor gallon gamble profits. Stores like roses in danville. Kentucky took measures the manager told us cashiers that if a customer. Coming. Great start, by the way, it's going to end with the shotgun. No matter what it is. Like everything else if a customer is coming through the line with a Proctor and gamble product. The cashiers were to explain what happened on the filth on a huge show. Give them the opportunity to put the item back on the shelf. Oh my God. Now miss before. He actually check out. We just wanted to let you know that you are actually buying a product from the church, you're Satan, Phil Donahue, interviewed one of the guys from practice. I'm not sure if it's practice or gamble. One of the gentlemen, came out of the closet full on seat. Okay. So while that shampoo is fantastic. And gives you a nice fluff. And curls. It's also putting money in the pocket of above. And if you look closely at that logo, you'll not only find a couple of six six sixes, but you'll basically find a bunch of signs signatures head nods. Two words, you know help. So so is a price saver. We would just wanted to give you a heads up on that. So should I get Prell? Well, I I would not ever recommend pro. But is. Does not come from the belly of the beast. So and we will hold your spot, which is obviously driving people in this line. Very. A anyway, we just wanted to extend that concern towards you. And okay. So just ring up my folger's all come right back, ma'am. Okay. Sorry. I should have done a full Ombrella disclosure. Practically gamble is thrown attached to a lot of rings among them the caffeinated morning beverage, including your folger's crystals. They're the best part of waking up is not going to help. So. Just like the guy that runs the grocery store and Kentucky's from Chicago. I think it's funnier see how he moves there to get away from the well, if you wanna know, my whole story, I had a Juilliard they pull the rug out from under me when I lost my vocal chords at a Cadillac accident steering, right? I couldn't hit the high notes and Hello Dolly, no more. That was my Dacian. Tune. Anyway, this conversation was about the devil. My dreams Brad way being crush on a Wednesday afternoon after spice practice, I like that this was long enough ago that you could say something happened on TV show. And there's no way to check it. There's no way to there's it's just like I saw Phil Donahue said it was real you believe Jeff who told you or you don't and this story seem super legit. Legit it? Should it come out of an old folks home? It's right. The interior journal of Sanford Kentucky contacted fifty people others said had actually seen the Donahue episode. But every single one said they had not seen it. But they knew someone who did. Yes. At the same time. The Donahue show was also trying to set the record straight because they were getting two hundred three hundred calls a day. Mostly from the south. This is a daily television show. They don't have time for that field calls from like, you know, like dwarves and arranged marriages like from the eighties or something like strange like educate K, K members that want to be set up on dates, and instead they're answering their phone like, no, we did not. We do not. Okay. Thank you so much. Please don't callback. Thank you. So they're getting so many calls. They set up a voice mail to deal with them quote. If you're calling about Proctor and gamble press. Six now. Press six three times. Now. Illu blowed. Daughter. The president continues. The president of Proctor and gamble has never appeared on the Donahue show. If your family and friends say they've seen it. They are quite mistaken. But it seemed the more people they told the truth to the bigger the rumor came in June and July nineteen eighty-two. Proctor and gamble received fifteen thousand phone calls and letters from people many of whom had seen leaflets addressed to all Christians that told the tale of the president of Procter gamble on Donahue or sixty minutes or the Merv Griffin show spread might have been Merv. It was either the morning the afternoon or the night that I saw this on TV. All right miss please go there most. And I can't remember what show it was. I think it was on TV or in my head. I can't remember properly. Proctor and gamble held. News conferences, senior vice president explained to the press where the local came from. And that no Representative of the company had appeared on any of the shows. And there was no connection to Satan. The company had not even been mentioned by anyone on the shows at the time, quote, we've used the same trademark since eighteen eighty two. We're still not sure what they say. Excuse me. I've got a question. Who? Do. Got away from me again. Are you from the Lakeview nursing home news? From nursing home times. I remember. No, no. Okay. We're gonna move on. Oh. Please. Okay. Are there any other questions? No. My head. Just started shaking. It's light palsy. I'm sorry. Am I? The company then asked religious leaders like the Reverend Jerry Falwell the Reverend Billy Graham and cardinals archbishops to tell all their followers that these Satan rumors were untrue, and that's a reliable gang. But it was not going away. So Procter and gamble began to hire private investigators to find out who was spreading the rumor. They found out some always sending thousands of mimeographed letters to thousands of Californians about the devil worship. They could not find out who did it boy. So people in California just getting these letters explaining what had happened, and no one knows where it's coming from. And everyone's fucking buying it because you're like well who wants to fake leather? It's mimeographed. That's fish. Okay. I made good Lord. But they did they did file lawsuits. Five lawsuits filed against people who were spreading the rumors somewhere door at our salesman who had hand out flyers with their products sell vacuum and be like also Proctor and gamble. Thank you. Okay. You're selling remember door to door salesman? Just come with a bunch of home products. And be like would you like to buy? I'm not sixty five. Yes. You are not your. I meant to tell you that before the show. All right. Well, I gave it away. I guess it's time to take off my. God and my arm. One of the people spreading the rumor was a weather the car started. I was one of the people spreading the rumor was a weather man in Atlanta. Well, you cannot trust Atlanta weatherman. I've always told you that his name was guy Chartres, and he'd been given a flyer. Shadier than Dallas Raines. He begin a flyer. And then he kept her PD the charges when he was giving speeches to local groups and Atlanta who is the meteorologist giving speeches too. He was a to- a terrible outgo hall like also. Peaches like that. He said Proctor and gamble. Gabe. Ten percent tiff to the church of Satan. So they're they're correcting your pronunciation. Thai. Yeah. I don't give a shit. I thought you said at ten percent tip. And I was like, oh, well, Finally, I get it. Some for you. All the lawsuits were settled out of court and every defendant had to state publicly that the rumors were not true guy sharp made his state, but as part of his weather segment during the evening. Felt like we were to court of law and just went to the green screen. Oh, there's a cold front coming in everything. I said about that Satan stuff and Proctor and gamble is not true. It'll be raining on Friday. For a cold front to move here over hell, which is owned by Procter and gamble. They actually have steak on hell and he's the president anyway, Saturday, look like a little precipitation. So guy was just your traditional religious nut man Amway sales. Yeah. Anything else? He's doing on their efforts the Proctor and gamble efforts would pay off in some places, especially Jerry Falwell and guys like that seem to quell it down. But the rumors would just pop up. Elsewhere wacko mole. This went on for years. And then there was another major flare up in New York state in hundred eighty five leaflets began appearing all over the metropolitan areas. It's leaflet like wars are so great. Proctor and gamble. Then held a news conference on April seventeenth in New York. L E shit. Why do we keep doing this? We don't know the devil. It's a leaflet God. I just want to sell. I've got a question. Do head, sir. If you type something onto a piece of paper and fold it three times. It's true. I agree with. The company the company received fifty six hundred calls in March nineteen eighty five about their satanic activities. Right. Sixty percent where from New York, New jersey and Pennsylvania. So it's like moved out east. Proctor and gamble set up a toll free number to deal with the calls. Fracturing, but we are not. Practicing give we are not. And how can I help you today? I don't know if it still works, but it's eight hundred three five four zero five zero. He's got a phone. Let's try it. Probably no one. Okay. Very negative. Yes. Oh my God. If he answers, please let me talk to him for. All right. So it's a deal. I just hope then be. My podcasts. Excess. I pray to God. This isn't some we deport shit where we're actually calling Satan. Be amazing actually, call Satan? Sleeker people like don't forget speaker love your can ham. Not now. Wait till you answer. Dialect dad camman dead. Hurry, just it just keeps ending the call. So it must be it must be Satan. Not now. Let me see if I got it. Right. I mean, make sure I got the number right? I apologize everybody. I really thought that we're going to be. Just like that they made it. You're crazy, and you shouldn't be calling. But it's on us. Don't worry about it. Offices are. Speaker something do gamble. Get more information on brands Evert and PNG everyday press one now or. Might still be. Ex-? On medical or I ate information. Call at five one three. One. Fuck calls Partridge gamble. Period. They didn't have an option but who calls Proctor and gamble. If there's a Satan. I mean, a medical problem you like, hey, man. I broke my leg. Look man shot. My neighbor and his friend Procter gamble. Freaked. You guys gang. Does right store locator? That was sad. I wish they still had that number. All right. So to detective agencies one of whom was the Pickton's were hired by Proctor and gamble. Nice. To find out about the rumors as senior vice president told the New York Times, quote, do you know how hard it is to fight a rumor. She's okay. Seldom. The archdiocese of Newark sent letters about leaflets churches warning that quote, a false rumors being circulated by some groups in our parishes. Jerry Falwell issued a statement quote. The people have spent a much of the last of the past six years attacking Proctor and gamble for its corporate logo could make better use of their time fighting real in serious problems. Our society. Yeah. I mean, honestly, Jerry, what's your list, Jerry? Well, I tell tubbies. Gay puppets. That somebody to focus on. I did not find in my research did not find any indication that Proctor and gamble sued. Jim Peters, but he was still at nights and eighty five. She's a man who lived in Minnesota later say he had a meeting with the Peters family in one thousand nine hundred five quote, these three brothers from the Christian life centre. Dan, Stephen Jim came to speak to my boys to tell them to burn their rock music album. They showed a slide of the Proctor and gamble symbol and said it was the same as the church of Satan, a Minnesota. So now, they are the door to door to in-home. Yeah. In home demonstration. Look at all that dirt. We got on your carpet. Now what if site where to get? Getting all that dirt recovered. Virus? So Procter and gamble finally decided to change the logo. They got rid of the curly beard. The sixes were gone, but they kept the symbol in use on their corporate stationary their awards and their company buildings. Sorry. Really quick. I missed there were actual sixes on there. Well, no, the beer just had three little curls in. If you turn upside down and sideways, you can see it was just thought they shouldn't have put that six six six on there. Because now leaflets side, you know, it's what it's nineteen ninety-five. So perms out they like. Yeah, straight. Yeah. Real quick. Pressuring gamble. Had a words. What happened? They they wanna Tony that year. But my God you guys. Thank you. All that work. So so getting rid of all the stuff on. So it's on every product, right? And it's on. Sure everything so get it. So love that leaving it on your corporate buildings stationery and awards awards. Sure, you're here. Hockey, just meet people. That just made people freak out more. Sure that you more attention to it in the Christian community and the whole thing bloop in their faces. People are flipping out Christians were so concerned that an April nineteen ninety six South Dakota attorney general. These South Dakota attorney general issued a press release to state media reminding them that no executives at Proctor and gamble had sold their souls to the devil. Right. Thank you. He told all five hundred people. Worry not. This seem like someone. Proc seem like something. Proctor and gamble is going to have to live with it didn't help that these satanic fearmongering in the media was still going on the time. You've got the preschool trials accusing the daycare employee's partaking, satanic rituals in nineteen eighty eight. Geraldo Rivera's documentary double worship, exposing Satan's underground became the highest rated television documentary ever to air. But didn't they get all the way to the underground opened up and nothing was. There was a nine hill. Good. There was a nineteen ninety twenty twenty episode that televise an official Roman Catholic exorcists them. What what do much different from that? Now evangelical documentaries like hell's bells. We're still tying rock music to the occult a kid shot himself in the face with a shotgun and survived decided to Judas priest claiming some liberal messages on one of their albums made him do it. Al Gore's wife Tipper started the parents music resource center of songs inappropriate, some of which redeemed. I found it very helpful in highschool to know, what to listen to to listen to based on what I said goes, very helpful. And you're also forgetting about the joy when someone you knew would come home excited with an album, and you'd get to go that's the censored one and they'd be like. with French shot himself in the face because he listened all right pal. The hell just happened while. I will never forget that kids face because he was on all the talk shows well faces a. I will never forget that kid's not face. I want to get out of here. Thanks, buddy, preciado, so fun. So fun time fun. So some of Tipper Gore's inappropriate groups were because of the cult so sure labeled stumps panic the rumors flared up again in nineteen Ninety-one the Washington Post ran a story about Christians in Maryland. Just got to be really over this. It's back. Awesome. It's yes. The one secretary for the whole fifty years that it's up. She's like. She's like. Go good. They're back. I mean, it started in nineteen eighty it's now nineteen ninety one. So the post runs a story about Christians in Maryland spreading flyers of which Proctor and gamble products deploy Kat because of their satanic leanings civic product. Yes, forty nine products are satanic leaning more than other products. Forty nine products in total forty nine products from Procter and gamble are Satan drench? Yes. And then the rest purchase, it might be all their products. I don't know. Okay. The Reverend j Hurley of green bar Baptist church said an army chaplain friend gave him a copy of the flyer, and it's the same flier with the Donahue information. Nothing's changed. Cool. And then he distributed copies to seventy member. Congregation number seventy. The flyer was the same all these years about the prisoner. Donahue, the flyer stated this just happened on March first nineteen ninety one. That's right. Even though Donahue had been cancelled for three years. Just see the new Donahue. Well, apparently he did one show out of nowhere that left again. Just like Satan would. Yes, devo. Devo spoke baba. Gone into the night. Classic. The promo program that actually aired that night day was called how to cheat on your spouse and not get caught. Which is actually good episode. Honey, where are you kidding? I love you. How do you? I'm not gonna get into the minutia of what that Donahue was about. But okay, I think by that point they had had all the like drag queens on and that had burned out. They were looking for like what is actually going to get people out and like. Right. Some people were sad that they had to fight Satan. At this point deacon, George Snyder said it hurt when he stopped at seven eleven and had to pick out a new Brandis soap. The book. One thing is timeless. If you're buying soap at seven eleven shut up. What are you doing, sir? That's not. So that's a Cup of Nacho to bay without the role. Lorde? It's so if I put it on the shower. Slurpee machine, sir. I those. Got slurp it Cup cold soda far as I'm concerned. Drake, drink this. So. Sorry. I can't afford both. I'll just take. Spoke a little fast there. Quote, I was born and raised on ivory, soap, I have sensitive skin. And it's a good product. But it was a slap on the face when that gentleman was preaching devil worship. And said there weren't enough Christians to make a difference. We are Christians, and we can make a difference. That's so is seventy percent live. So he probably had sensitive skin because he used ivory chances. When the reporter told him, nobody from Procter and gamble at ever been on Donahue. He said, quote, let's different story. Entirely. It is absolutely entirely story unto itself, actually. Yup. Yup. Going back in the seven eleven budget. Every I still don't they could justifies what you're doing me. I'm back. Okay. At this point. Proctor and gamble had filed fourteen libel lawsuit against those spreading the rumors Donahue another. I didn't do anything. At in March nineteen ninety one seventy five thousand dollar judgement against James in Linda Newton of Kansas. They were prohibited from spreading statements associating, the company was satanism, and they were both Amway distributors. Yeah. That's strategy. Amway's trying to impact about soap game trying to get in there. The Atlanta weatherman was Amway. Yeah. I do that a lot of people were salesman door to door. Yes. I do. Dave amway. Wait, wait, wait, a minute, sir. We're talking about a door to door salesman smear campaign against Proctor and gamble to save in-home salesmanship. Satan's just. The church of Satan has no. Actually were fine with it. It's a pyramid scheme. Say if it's a pendant Graham scheme pentagram scheme, that's two pyramid. Schemes invert to the ultimate you wanna be in that media middle. Husky may I'm way. Now at this time, and we had a voice messaging system, they used to send messages to consumers the Newton's. I've been using it to tell people Proctor and gamble supported say. Oh my God. This was the first of a number of lawsuits that will be filed against Amway distributors Amway was company that farmed out sales of its products to third party distributors who sometimes are known to engage in aggressive tactics to boost sales and Amway is a direct competitor competitor. Oh. It is much competitor. Is it is impact of go ahead. A lot of the competitors in Africa dying. You need competitors. Because there aren't competitors in the food chain. Then there's nothing to kill the apex predator that doesn't work. Say hi knock it off. There's too many hyenas. Amway is a direct competitor with Proctor and gamble. The rumors returned full force again in nineteen ninety five and proctoring gamble spoke. Cobain wrote the song Proctor and gamble last night. When questioned at Proctor and gamble spokesman was all over it. He told this to the Washington Post, quote, it's poppy Kat cock a lie. Ridiculous lied. So they're losing their minds. Poppycock is also a delicious popcorn dessert treat that Proctor and gamble. It provides. Yes. That's I don't know who makes. You can eat ivory, by the way. Is that true? Poppycock? What it is. It's filled with caramel corn. Dry in July nineteen ninety-five Proctor and gamble announced. They were completely retiring the logo. Really took a long time. Like you have a lot of attachment to a logo if everyone's like you from Satan on you're like, we're just gonna use it for our award ceremony. I love that beard so much amazing. We're nothing without that logo that nobody knows about. I would I would imagine. If it was a I don't know if it's a privately held company or public, but it was private public. That's amazing that it's public that. They didn't they didn't get rid of it. I believe she kind the audience ING. I think in a way you're both right. Because he said something we went with it. And then you were like, you shouldn't just take that. Well, no, I believe fake news era. I is right. Yes, sir. I'm literally listening to a story in which people do exactly what I just did. People just listened to some of their doorstep about the bullshit. It is is all right. Oh, he's passing his leaflet. Forward. Spread the best around everybody. Do you think, sir? Obviously, we don't want to stand in the way of someone who knows the answer to that question. He said I. I'm just doing a Facebook post them. We'll get back into this gang. Proctor and gamble stock price. It is he's right up. He would be loss for it serves that why? Okay. Let's dialogue between you. It's kinda. But look, it looks pretty good or okay? Awesome. Thank you, the one near the one is okay. It's not in the top three two. We are podcasting. So they changed the logo. It's no longer going to be on the buildings or stationary. Just Phil Donahue's head on a pike. They cancelled the award show. Trump the white flag. The move man is gone. The stars are gone. It's now just the simple letters PNG. If it's a circle blue Surco, white letters, the company said this mood at move had nothing to do with Satan. It was just a. Yes. It does whether you're into or not it has everything to do with Satan. They said it was just a friendlier modern global look. More global than Satan. Yeah. He's in every country. He's like the gap. Once again, it was discovered Amway distributors using their voice mail system to send messages to customers, stating Proctor and gamble was supporting the devil. Yeah. It is weird. I was just thinking I'm like, I'm so on Amway side for some reason. Also, the idea of sending voicemail messages like you didn't call anybody. You don't want to message from Amway. But somehow they get into your phone, and they're like now that we're here is so is the devil. Miss cold. I assume because I took this all from old news story. So I assume it's a robo call right? Yes. Say you know, what you're not fire. Just keep yelling. Yes. About everything can stock spine. Oh, I'm an expert too. Yes. Yes. I think that's just an improviser. Got out not an oracle. So Procter and gamble now. Believe Amway was responsible for the current flare. Up nineteen ninety-five. Proctor and gamble filed. More lawsuits gets more Amway distributors Amway said they had actually been fighting the seatac rumors quote, despite Amway corpse past efforts to help stop this rumor, unfortunately, it appears to have resurfaced Amway will continue to cooperate with Proctor and gamble, and we'll continue to enlist the support of independent Amway distributors to stop this rumor, but Proctor and gamble had gotten their hands on an Amway voicemail message saying that they weren't illegal say, so they they had a fuck incriminating. It's amazing when you just send out messages two thousands of people just someone new Praca, go get get it. That's weird weird. That's pinkerton. Come in. That's right. Yeah. Well, we found one thousand wanted killed forty nine native of our. What Pinkerton style? How we do it. We did it. Right. It's in the contract. So the case was very very long trial. It was thrown out once and then it was reinstated. And finally in two thousand seven twelve years later. God, what message is no longer exists? Donahue, still looking for that. Daytime return Donahue's got fired up MSNBC this point. Well, at this point Donahue's an old folks home like the crows. Did it got a good idea? In two thousand seven progress. Gabba won a nineteen point two five million dollar lawsuit against some Amway distributors. There's a lot more in ninety five. Yes. One of the defendants said, quote, it's hard to imagine they'd pursue it this long. Drop it very straightforward shooter. Yeah. Especially after all the retractions. We put out we are stunned all of us. He admitted that he had forwarded this Tannock rumor to other Amway salesman on the phone messaging system, which was then sent to thousands of customers, but later he sent a retraction on the same system. That's what hey, it's me. Again. Listen, she got earlier Cray spell. Look Proctor gamble is not of Satan. Later. So then Hayes me again. I seventy is this drug as feel about on my lying. Hey, it's me. Sorry. Just had an omelette woke up seven thirty AM. Boy, I don't even remember calling last night. But I know that I did just want to say sorry, everybody. Ooh. Okay. Bye. Hey. Valentine's day. I'm alone. Had a little Rosa by the fire. Amway rosa. That's right. There's two of us and. Yeah. We just wanted to call, and we don't want to belabor this and make this long, but regaining Marion we're getting married, and it's and our parents are very big we don't even care anymore. But we just want to wish you guys, I happy Valentine's Day from us. Who knows who we are? We're Amway, but we're not Amway. We just got the pass code to this and. Gobble, gobble doing crazy. We'd so much. Okay. Bye proper hold on. How do you do it? I think. I can't feel my fiend. That's donahue. That's Donahue, Donahue. That's Phil Donahue, hang up. My sister. Ask him about the swingers. What happened? But okay, Daryl. Definitely not your dad. No way. Sometimes I see blue. Okay. Just try to plug the thing. It'll word I want someone to talk to. Okay, it's faxing. I don't know. What is? Not be faxing. I know that. So oddly after those nineteen ninety-five lawsuits that were no more satanic attacks on Proctor and gamble until tonight. When we all. And the new lead newsletters start again. Two thousand thirteen Proctor and gamble quietly. Brought back a bit of a moonlight designed to corporate logo. What are they doing? Lee be done. They wanna. Yeah. Expec totally. It's a blue circle with the P G. And now there's a little slice of moon on the side. They're totally just like. As of yet. It is not inspired a new satanic panic about. Brockton gamble wraps because they changed their logo. Or maybe it's because Amway lost nineteen point two five million. Their logo was a dick and bowl. I don't know why didn't fly that's the Proctor and gamble. They tend to panic. And the weird. Thing to me is like. Great company because their own by Betsy DeVos's family, who's a great lady. They're good people. She said Christian woman, who's never experienced life or blinking. Yeah. Yeah. No Amway's a very bad bad company. But maybe we'll do a full one on them at some point. But that's just a slice of their their magic. When I was when I was a stand up comedian when I was starting out when we were starting together in I was I was a part time, Bank teller and this guy. Come everyday dues deposits. You wanna make a little more money? It'd be like, yeah. I wanna make more money. And then when he's like, hey, come to couplets. Let's talk, and I was like, okay. He goes, you can you can leave this job you can make money without without doing a lot of work. And I was like okay would work with comedy. So he after work. We'll go meet. And so I go out and he goes getting my car. I was like I'm gonna drive. He goes get my car like I'm gonna drive. Better. If you've got my car's like, I'm gonna drive and he goes, okay drive. And so we I follow up into the hills. And we go to this house, and we pull up and there's an Amway sign on my mother fucker. That's what drove. He was taking up to the Amway mansion in Nevada hills. By the way, here's me in that situation. I'll drive get in the car. This door won't open anymore that normal whatever. Either way would love champagne. Don't have that in my car. But I'm sorry. If anybody here's an Amway of salesman. Karen is guys we have this amazing laundry detergent, it's. Karen? Karen knew Jesus. I was just thinking about how clean clothes smell. Because I sold and my family and my good friends sold enough products. So that we could all meet together in a conference room. That's right. So let's talk to you. What the hell if if if you can all just so one bottle of dish gang? I can go to Mexico on vacation. Isn't Amway the one where they like bring you in your the audience, but then they locked the doors, and you see. And then I mean, if the doors are locked you just not so. Right. So I had a friend. That got suckered by that same guy guy worked with and he they locked the doors, and they had to go through the whole routine before I leave lock the doors. Our you like, okay, let's say they locked the doors, and they nail your feet to the floor. Oh, we can't wait for this. All right. Film strip anyway anyway. Well, thank you, Las Angeles so much for coming out give it up for Carrick Gareth. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Let's all call Proctor and gamble real soon. And let them know random. Thank you guys present it.
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Take that Michael Cooper, Michael. Sure time time that's our salute to show time. We are live today from the UCLA health health center. What is there for you understand you even growing UCLA colors today? This is actually a Lakers t-shirt underneath. But it's golden blue acts to completely accident. I think is in the air -pletely incidental. It was in the air. Well, they're very happy to have a series. You could tell by the group standing next to us. We've completely interrupted. But we are they were excited. They were cited to meet us. You know, why? Because it's the beginning of the magic run, right? Getting twenty and twenty and five one in five. I'm glad that you could get a front row seat to the you are on the for looking in five. I mean, look at that look at travail McGee down there, rebounding dunking. I mean, you're right. They're only rebounding his donkeys Mus double Slee telling you is Lonzo down there. No can't even run. Oh, God, rob perkasie there on a folding care. Oh, yeah. There's rob. It's all happening. Yeah. It's like to quote sina from Vander pump rules. It's all happening. All right. We'll see you can quote Shantou right there. I mean Vander it up rules when I walked in today. You said, you know, the greatest mystery in the history of professional sports in Los Angeles as you have called it has been solved. Now, why did we explain what you mean by that? I don't think anything's been so okay. So CJ Anderson has been on a media tour, and it's done multiple shows. Apparently, everyone was able to book him except great. And I don't know. I Greg didn't. But it didn't have them. But he says that Todd Gurley was way more hurt than we knew. Okay. And I don't even Myrlie applauding tied early. Congratulations. Todd latte. You're hurt glide yard, so. Yeah. To me that makes that puts my mind. He's like I'm good with the I don't think C J Anderson. It's got any reason to lie. We're at the super paying attention to the actual play was I was all right spectrum who keep stats of all that stuff said that Todd Gurley was the fastest guy in the field. Right. And he put Patrick Chung literally in the hospital over so hard Didi look hurt to you. Well, you know, here's what I would say in the same way a pitcher can be a pitch count Todd Gurley could have been on a pitch count. In other words, we've got him for so many plays. But we don't want him to risk a major knee-injury which he suffered in a senior year at Georgia. Right. So I can see how you would say. All right. We're going to use him as kind of a decoy. We're gonna play 'em. Some we're gonna make New England prepare for them. We're going to as if he's going to be there and be there the entire game. And then you use him in a more limited way. Here's the problem with that Terry if you're right. And I am and it's as usual than per initial knee surgery. He suffered at Georgia. Then girlies career is over. Well, there are people that think that that knee. I've heard people say this that knee had five years in it. He had a torn ACL. This was four right, right. This is four that knee had. Jeff Fisher would. Yeah. I don't know if that's our he looked fine. What what's the motivation for C J Anderson to lie make Todd Gurley? Look good. Give me an excuse. He well, but what excuse I think there is something going on. With Todd Gurley that the Rams are not talking about and one day. It will come out. I don't think it's injury. And by the way, you don't think it's injury. Even though in missed the last two weeks of the season because of a knee injury. But he he said a million times post-season, I'm not hurt. But the worst thing you can do is tip. Anybody often say, Yep. I'm not playing. I'm injured. I'm not able to do. I'm not the Todd Gurley that you expect why motivation we got the ball. He was Todd Gurley weeks. -pected he put Patrick Chung in the hospital. He was the fastest player on the field. The Rams didn't use him. And I don't understand it. And I'll never understand it. And not to say that they would have won the game. Had they use him. I think New England came up with the big drive when they needed to both defenses played great the best player in the field for the Rams set day was Wade Phillips, no question. Well, here's can I read the what C J Anderson actually said. Yeah. USA today. Sure. He was more hurt than what we thought. The injury was a little bit more than whatever. Everybody in the building thought including himself, obviously, it's the same knee. He's had before in his career. Obviously I had surgery on my meniscus and once you have a knee. You always have any so at aggravates. And if he was getting a lot of touches earlier in the year, obviously him being one of the best backs that probably was the case. Yeah. I don't buy it. I think there's just CJ Anderson's Aligarh. You're just call them a bold face. And by do you think CG Anderson's gonna be on the team next year? I don't know. I think that the priorities that they have are not necessarily CJ value completely went to get more money from another. And I think the money's got to go into the defense. I mean, they gotta worry about the secondary. Keep to lead Marcus Peters on his fifth row fifth year option. You've got Dante Fowler you've gotten Dhamma consumer. You've got multiple guys you've got to worry about signing. And as we saw in the Super Bowl that defense can be really really good. So you wanna hold this much of that together as you can? And they can get by without C, J Anderson. Would you sign Marcus Peters? Such a difficult question. My answer is no would you signed Adama consume? Yes. I would too. Okay. Now, here's a here's the thing. You don't need to sign markets. Speeders? Correct. He is in his fifth year. There's no reason to sign him long term. I don't think you should they've got him. No matter what they've got him. And meanwhile, Chaika Cooper is here. Well here put on a microphone here. You say all the fans out there are Lund's. Yes, sir. Not wanna hang around your leaving us. All right, guys. Dais giving a tour to people give some wingstop. Yeah. Yeah. Coop. What some wingstop? Seriously. We've got plenty of wings over here. Man. You're too skinny and out the way the only from the Showtime era who never got fan looked like you're wasting away coup him, and Michael Thompson, never got fat and Kareem. Yeah. Michael Thompsons rail Kareem is around Cooper's rail or the fat ones. Will here's the fattest? Who's who's good night? Well, here's the fattest guy from that. From that era. Go ahead is so fat. Yeah. How that is. He no he takes up literally at the press table. Yup. There's two guys that are facts. Rick Mahorn is fat. Rick Mahorn split compared compared to Stacey king. Rick Mahorn looks like Cooper right king. I'm not kidding. Stacey king is northeast of an answer for the bulls. Right. Okay. But it now you're naming non Lakers name the Lakers who got fat because that's what you Ridgely said they got so fat trying to no more thinking of the guys from that era who what Lincoln got fat. Let's let's see. Let's remember that lineup. Okay. The guard. Byron didn't get fat ironed in Byron peak guy. Magic guy fat. Yeah. He's okay. Got some Graham business skinny Rambus is skinny right AC looks good AC looks good worthy. Looks good Hooper. Looks good worthy. Looks good Michael. Okay. Michael. Although we need to hip replace-. Does he limps around actually the lake? Held up pretty good. It's the other teams that got what about Robert ory? He's gained a little way. But he's not fat. I don't think he's fat. Jerk. Fisher not fat fat. Yeah. Big show. Rob to get big Morgan says meta medicine little figure headers was thinking about Metis he'd admit it. Yeah. And he also was big as a player. I mean, he used his body. So he had some size to him. Anyway. So really, we've narrowed it down to bigshot bop. Yeah. He's at that bad. No. He's not that bad. But I don't I think the Rams have some very difficult decisions. I agree Marcus Peters. I would not sign off to sign them. They have under contract for this year. I don't think that's that is one hundred percent true. He's in his fifth year option. So in other words, they didn't they gotta pay him. I would release. No, no, well, you would him fifth year up, right? But it's fifth year options cheap. That's him in Millie's still on his rookie deal. This is the last year of his rookie deal. Yes. I read an article today by nine million foreign wells born will would release them would release them out. Right. Right. Because well, I mean in terms of his actual performance. If you look at pro football nine million dollars perform when you look at pro football, focus Johnson, Jan Johnson did better, and he's not getting paid nine million dollars. No, he's he's a safety. He's in. He's he's a rookie. Right. But at the saying there are players you could get who could play if we were doing war. Yeah. We could we could get more value for from from corner than we got from Marcus Peters. Yeah. Yeah. No. I dick the Rams will not let your. Yeah. I think they've got to manage the cap hard to figure out that cap. I do not understand the salary cap in the NFL to save my life. I do not get it. I don't understand it. Hard caps off cap. What the hell's going on whether or not the extent Goff plays into this? And I think they don't well. I wouldn't. But if you believe in I think you do right that he's your quarterback of the future. It actually makes sense to extend explained coming up is it break time while right? Greg's yelling break. I he didn't do not yelling at to me. Do what we always do any norm. You're you're better ignoring him than I am. I'm gonna take a patriot of your book and just ignore you even saying break for two minutes. Yes. He really hear any because it's ten right now. That's that's the clock. Okay. Twelve ten. We take our twelve ten break. Correct. Okay. Twelve ten grade break, and we'll be right back live from the UCLA health. Training centers training center. Dope next. Mason Ireland ESPN LA gig at we're looking at the famous Mace plant. Mortgage says it got sniper which means what Morgan. Someone in the stands shot with a bullet. I tripped over nothing. Yes. Did you not see the Corey Hart Fowley was as if there was a sniper that hit you with a BB out of the crowd, and you just fell. Yeah. Took me down to know where it was brutal. Now, let me get back to my point about Jared Goff, by the way, thanks for your support Morgan really at the engage chicken those Chick-fil-A. We're at the UCLA health in gradings. Hey, no, the UCLA health training. That's going to take me to see. Yeah. I haven't been here in a while. So it's gonna make it hard for me. Yeah. There's like twenty documents learner you very comfortable here. Because anybody part you hurt. There's a doctor here. The be most of them are heard it's. Yeah. All right. So. We had one of the days. You were gone. We had Albert freer from Monday morning court. Yes. And we had him explained grace, Greg. He explained it to you or Rocca. Can I do this quick before going to do right now? What do I care? So we're giving away fifty dollar gift certificates to winced. Wingstop all show long. Here's how you win. Call eight coins. Here. Seven ten ESPN eight seven seven seven ten ESPN caller, number seven caller, number ten caller number seventeen. You guys all win a fifty dollars gift certificate to wingstop? Keep listening for more chances to win wingstop now delivers so we're driving your favorites to you order wingstop delivery today. Okay. Hold on a second professional reader of things that was excellent. Really sold that up. Didn't they I love wingstop? I order from there. All the time. I I love wings. Love him the hotter. The better with a ton of blue cheese dressing is that blue cheese or is that ranch? I do not believe in ranch dressing with wings. I believe it should be blue cheese dressing. Oh, God that's gonna win. The wingstop. You're mean, I'm here doing what I did yesterday. Yeah. Who do you? Eat em fix. We are now calling our show to try to win every contest ourselves watch out fifth row. Friday's here. I found some wings. Why not by the way, fifth row Fridays is going on right now to pay attention to everything we say because Friday at two thirty. There will be a pop quiz. They'll be question from each day this week tickets seat, Lakers nuggets, plus it with the playoff preview, that's playoff preview. Very well could be that's the two against the seven in the sevens going to waste, right. Plus an autograph basketball chairman's club passes supercross gift card fifth row Fridays. Brought you by SuperBeets save time chicken online, let soup flooring super cuts dot com. Once again, another professional reading job all right now. US thank you Morgan US me about Goth or ask you about coffee. Can't remember? Yeah. So here's the reason. Why you if you believe in you do that you're golf is your quarterback of the future? See I don't believe that. I think I still wanna see more. That's non Joel urine. Sensical? You're already outta prayer. Is an idiot really is. He's he's no it set up its Bill Barnwell and ask rear to comment. I bar. Okay. Harnwell on ESPN dot com wrote that he wrote five things every team should do this off season. Right. One of the five was do not extend Jared Goff Bluey. And here is born wells reasoning. Right. If he has another big year, right? And you know, he's your guy if he doesn't have another big year or if he goes backwards, then you can get out of him. You can you're not you're not committed. I don't understand I run into an athlete who is as good as Jared Goff. And who is criticized as much as big John took his team to the damn Super Bowl right now. Lemme argue forgered. Okay. All right now that was born was reasoning. So we asked breer what would be the reason to go against Barnwell would be the reason to sign Jared Goff. And he made a good point. He said that if you. Don't extend Goff. Which is what I'm advocating. And I'm advocating his he becomes more expensive in the following year. And he said the cap goes up every year and they're coming up as we've seen in the last couple of seasons. They're coming up with new ways new revenue. Streams they're selling games to Twitter. They're selling games to Yahoo. There's yeah. But the bigger the pie is the more money. There is correct. So you can afford to wait unshared Goff. But the argument would be that Jared Goff becomes more expensive the longer you wait. And another reason is it's the Rams in the past five years. You're allowed to take your first round draft pick right and extend him after the first season. After the first the thirties thirties first round pick rights, and this is jerk off just finished his third season. Correct. The Rams did it for tame on Austin. They stood it for Robert Quinn stupid. Okay. And more recently. They did it for Todd Gir. Early which makes more sense. Okay. So if you don't do it for golf detail them off. You know, maybe do. But I here's here's my thing. Extend the cheap quarterback window for as long as you possibly. I agree. I would rather have what money you would pay Jared Goff, Goto Dhamma consumer or keep to leave or Dante Fowler or one of those players one of those impact players on defense and worry about next year when you get to next year, by the way, Barnwell here's how cockamamie he is. I don't usually use that work. He thinks no team should extend a quarterback passed his rookie deal. His his suggestion is you would do it from home. But he'd, but nobody else he says he says everybody else why pay him when you can just take a different quarterback and plug him in and get the same production. It's an interesting point. For example. Like Ryan tannehill. I you know, the they're in the draft for a quarterback right now. Right. He looked good after a couple of years Kirk cousins Redskins, just franchised him pull it. Let them get nothing for cousins. Did the Redskins handle that? Right. Rookie deal. Rookie deal. Franchise franchise leave for nothing. Maybe five years out of they they paid a lot of money. He never gotten the playoffs. But they're paying eighteen nineteen twenty million dollars for him because it was the average of the top five. Salaries for quality argument. Not to thank off that would be get something for them. Don't just let them walk. Oh, sure. And Redskins just let but I think all this is nonsense. You've got a twenty four year old guy who's coming off a season where he went thirteen and three with. What what is it thirty two touchdowns and twelve interceptions? What do we always say if you are going to cut bait on Jared Goff? Who you got who you're gonna get better not be Sean Manion? Now, they got nobody now. So so my my argument to stay with Goth is unless you get somebody better. Now, if they would have if this was a year later in Goffs contract, they could've gone out and sign Nick foles for one year. Right, but fulls is looking for security too. So he, you know, he's going to he's going to get a big money deal. Elsewhere, I think he's going to get because he's older. And he's a veteran guy. I think he's going to get a lot of money for three years a lot of money for three years. Yeah. That's what I could see foles doing. I think full details coming off as age twenty nine season. I could see three years ninety somebody that rears ninety yet. Thank you for that deal. Isn't isn't going right for quarterback about thirty million? Maybe it's twenty five thirty is Aaron Rodgers righty, right? But I'm saying, but here in Rogers is going to get a deal for as long as he wants. Maybe would you do falls two years fifty five? That's Aaron Rodgers thirty five. Matt Ryan is thirty Kirk cousins when eight Ryan himmy garoppolos twenty-seven. All right. Rob Lowe is twenty seven. And would you say Matt Ryan was thirty can't fools get to your sixty isn't. He Matt Ryan. Yeah. But I think somebody's willing to give him more years. We live in a league were there's a quarterback with shorter back in the league is playing at least forty five three years ninety money. It's a lot of money. I I wouldn't do it. Yeah. I would I wouldn't do it. I think that's that's you're you're a. Prisoner of the recency. Now, that's not a term. Why not what's his nerve recency? That's let's just happened to see him play a lot a lot of games at the end of the year. You don't know what he's going to do over sixteen game season. And and you can get hurt really easy NFL, of course, NFL contracts. Don't mean anything. Well, it's what you get Garin this yarn teed. So for example, Matt Ryan has ninety four million dollars guaranteed. What did Kirk cousins get guaranteed eighty four million dollars seat? Now, would you cut bait on cousins now or because you invested so much money in him? Are you married to him? Tell you X. Plus we're expecting to McGee works Kyle coups. Ma I by the way from the same hometown. You know, what it is? Cabal McGee and whose name hometown, I'll say Salt Lake City, Flint Michigan Michigan blow. That's right. I very outspoken on the watercraft. They shouldn't ask him. Yes. A as a deserve to be. It's a terrible crisis. Plus, we are Michael Thompson. And I have made a wager on whether or not I can make fifty percent of twenty free throw out of twenty no shot if less than when you hear last year you made two out of twenty if I do shoot fifty percent. Yeah. Michael owes me a bag of weed. That's true. So I'm I am. I am rooting for you just to see Michael individuals of Michael in a dispenser. Yes. I would like to purchase what's happening layers happening. Could you mentioned TMZ falling Michael tonight Spencer? We're get Janice. Let's oh, yeah. We should center. Social media team. I Mason in Ireland. We are live from the Lakers training facility the UCLA health. Said earning center, Mesa Ireland, ESPN LA. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Live UCLA health training facilities raining center. Aning center for the Lakers Lakers practices, wrapped up, and we aren't -ticipant ding. Both cow coups in jail McGee to stop by her at some point. And you had asked me a question. And I forget forget totally what it was. All right. Forget that. Okay. Forget nor the teeth. And it's it's an ethical dilemma that. I think everyone's going to come across in the next few months. They're not coming across. All right. Yeah. You said to me wingstop wingstop here, and there were Chick-fil-A over there. And I ate the Chick-fil-A. And you told me you were a fam- offended. The u h has Chick-fil-A you think is anti-gay. No. I know they're into. Okay. So here's my question last night. So I took fillet anyway, it was really good. Yeah. I was even more offended when you finish. Okay. So same concept. Two weeks ago? I was listening to Michael Jackson on my phone. I've music. Yes. Last night who Mike Jackson has some great songs right in my phone last night. I saw the trailers Raillard for that flicks movie, which is going to be a. Yeah, it is going to. It's basically kids who went to Neverland, and it, and you can tell where it's going. Oh, yeah. And Michael Jackson is going to be. In this documentary Hammond of being a pet if you played at Sundance, and it was it was a gigantic controversy of moving. So can I still listen in good conscience to my Michael Jackson, everybody once I see that? It's the chick fil, right? But I'm not gonna tell you what you're conscious says your conscience has to decide for you for your conscience, you feel guilty listening to Michael Jackson music after watching this documentary. It's apply. It depends. How convincing what else applies like me to like what you what you love the movie, the usual suspects. Yes. Stars Kevin Spacey. Do you look at the movie the same way? And would you watch it if it normally you would stop on that movie if you were flipping channels, I would aim up if you stop on it, and what's what's less Kint? Verbal virgil. What's his character? Verbal kint. Yeah. You come across Spacey's great in that movie. You come across spoiler alert. He is Kaiser Soza. Oh, God, you suck. That was awful. What would you do a movie? Came out here. Care years ago show. People who haven't that hair? The talk. As it's about game of thrones. You expect people to watch the fries your, right? How Burke dives at the end. There's another one for you different. Hey, hey, bring up Santa Claus. Six cents. Bruce Willis was dead. Why would you do these things? That's awful. We'll take a long time. I get back question. So you're flipping channels. You come across usual says actually know what you know about the metoo Aaron Kevin Spacey. Do you watch? I think the movie stands by itself. Okay. So when does a great screenplay core? Can I use that line about Michael Jackson the music stands on its own? It will stand on its own for me. Okay. 'cause I don't know. I don't know if I should feel guilty or not separating the artist from the art, right? Separating the artists from the art rake Weinstein produced a ton of great movies. There are lots of athletes that we've separated they're bad behavior from their performance on the field on the court. Right. But it's getting murkier, isn't it? It is. It's it's like for whatever reason you are offended by Chick-fil-A offended by Michael I'm offended because they started a foundation to oppose gay marriage equality. No, I'm not I'm not disputing you. Am I going to? I personally don't eat there. I won't eat chick fillet. But I'm not gonna tell you. Not you good because I'm gonna. Yeah. I know you already did you didn't even check with me. It was. Okay. No. I wouldn't. I wouldn't let you decide. What I, but I wouldn't be offended. If you said, I'm not eating chick fil. I'm not eating Chick-fil-A. I will not eat to wingstop. It's really good way. Stop is fantastic. Got a perfect human rights record. Wingstop. And really good waiting. That's what they're known what it should be. You know? These Malinga's here their fans know their fans. Yeah. Don't don't call the fans names. I said Malinga I don't think is their season ticket holders. The lingers. What is the Malinga me it meeting? They're hanging around doing nothing while that is exactly what they're doing. They're what that practice ended yet. But they're still is Lance down there shoot without a shirt still. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Really the one guy in the NBA who would go into a game without a shirt and not realize it. Yeah. Wait a minute. Didn't Michael Beasley do that. Was it Beazley's forgot his short disease? Yeah. Oklahoma city. Yeah. It is that why he's gonna be clear he had shorts on. They were just the rodeo you had the wrong door practicing. By the way is really hard to do. I'm friends with all the equipment guys. Your uniform is literally hanging in the locker the only color like they don't put the purple shorts up on a night, you're wearing gold. You would have to physically go. Get a different pair of shorts on your own put them on and ignored the shorts that are hanging right in front of you. And that's what Beasley did. All caps. Oh my God. Thanks for ruining the usual suspects for me. I have it recorded on my DVR and have never seen it. Well, listen, you gotta jump to it man because that movie came out fifteen years. Hey, Steven, you have no need to watch it. Now. Trust me. He wrecked. It nineteen ninety five. It's been twenty years. It doesn't twenty three years. Charles Freeman our buddy who listened to the show, and you came in and hosts with us on Veterans Day. Yep. Refuses to listen to any art killing music. Well, our Kelly was up to some weird weird. Yeah. But that's me. It's the same argument. Do can we separate the artists from the art it's hard? Sometimes it's hard. Like, I don't know if Kevin Spacey is going to cast. I don't think he's ever going to get cast. Yeah. I mean, he was accused of rate. So so directors are not separating the artists. Well, but but if he's not in prison he's eligible to work and oh, sure. No. He's just him in something tainted so Jackson was still alive. We wouldn't Jackson Hole alive. He would be tour. He would be tainted by the way, they're Michael Jackson fans who have come out and protested that movie when it was shown in Park City called finding Neverland leaving Neverland's something like that creepy never land set up. It's it's I think it's called creepy Neverland. That's not it. But Neverland was finding Neverland Peter Pan movie that it wasn't that. Yeah, wrong. Never. Yeah. No. The best one was at nether land was there was a movie that Mason was talking about one day. It was an animated leaving Neverland leaving Neverland. There's an animated movie that Mason was trying to describe in the animated movies called inside out. Right and entire segment. Mason called the movie inside inside, by the way, which movie I saw on porn hob. Underrated. All right. Manny Machado signed a three hundred million dollar contract despite questionable place such as Johnny hustling, Johnny hustle, not as Cup of tea and some PR struggles this last season. Can you imagine if miss Chatto tried to negotiate his own contract? He needed an expert to help maximize his earning potential. Don't don't try to explain yourself. Just roll with the jokes. Ireland. We are live from the Hugh CLA health and training facility center. It's nice. It's it's one of those things place. Those parmesan boneless wet wings. Those are actual wings calls. Wingstop those wings are fantastic. Are they just letting you know? Yeah. And javale McGee joining us momentarily seven a really good year. I think had he not gotten ammonia getting a Monja earlier in right? And he missed nine games, and then he had to build a stamina backup. So we really miss more like fifteen I think he had a chance to be in the all defense team. Yeah. He had a a bunch of black shots. He was defending led the league in black shots for about a month. Yeah. And then pneumonia got him you ever get pneumonia. Never had the pneumonia. I'm not seventy no pneumonia. Something that. It's like did you ever have mono? I did have mono when I was able to avoid it. But most people in my friends got it. I was able to avoid it, but actually out for like a month mono still around or they clear that thing up. No, she moved out of town. And then all my friends didn't get it. It was one. There was patient zero the mono yet she was hot. But the the pneumonia knocked him out of any potential thing. Right. Also showed up wants to a game in complete head to toe Grinch costume. No, really right around Christmas night. He got from the studio. Did he actually paint himself green? No, he had the whole green like muppet cost. But he didn't pay his face green. Go ahead. Oh, the full head on head. I interviewed him on spectrum sports net with the head the head on. Yeah. It was the highlight of my year would imagine so long season, but not going to run into every night. I don't know how he pulled that off though, how they get. Because think about it. He seven feet tall. Grinches. Very tall. Always. But why would they probably had to custom make it? Right. Because you weren't you're not gonna have a seven foot tall Grinch costume line around. No, you're right. I didn't see do you see that last Grinch movie? Dies at the end. You suck. Now, if that actually happens you deserve nuts Grinch movie. He doesn't die need a sequel. There are very few cliffhanger movies anymore. Like that you could ruin for someone. Yeah. Well, I mean, here's here's the thing. So we run the crying game. Yeah. But I won't leave it up to us. Do your the move rude. Seeing that movie, I don't have any plans the most unromantic movie ever. So here's the here's the thing. I mean, when when we're less than two months now till game of thrones comes out done at what point are we allowed to talk about each episode of day after no, yeah. No Thursday of that. We know ruin the usual suspects was just something current. We will just give spoiler alert. I think it's those Wednesday that's reasonable. Sure wednesday. And we say like, okay, if you don't would you say one o'clock, I'm never turning people to turn off. Yeah. We'll say we're not gonna say oh turn off. If you don't know. I'm not gonna tell people turn off the radio you're saying you're going to ruin this is a big Wednesday Wednesdays. I'm. Are you will talk about it? You know, we should do it thrown segment on Wednesday yet and get someone from outlet Ringo. Chris ryan. And he does Chris Ryan does like a game of thrones. They went back and rewatch every game. There meakers wasn't part of that. I think Mallory Ruben Mike something we had him on might have been Malley, Ruben and chasing Concepcion. Mallory for sure they went back and watched every episode of game of thrones. And then did a podcast about it. My brother my brother Travis just went through the entire thing and three weeks. That's kind of a great. Yeah. I mean, it's it's we call that going into a show. Lisa ireland. Does that my wife she goes into she starts watching and I'll go to bed at like, eleven o'clock and HOGAN wake up and core. And she's like sitting up watching nothing better start. It's like watching a seven season movie. That's that's movie caliber, you know. It's funny for me. Now is to watch people. This was Michael yesterday. Yeah. Y. People who used to do what I used to do. I'm not as through that you used to remember me. I wouldn't you wouldn't do it and find the UN Trudell dragged me kicking and screaming into it worth. It totally worth it. And now when I try and explain it to people like, Michael like, look, I was you. I was never gonna watch it. And I watched it if the pilot doesn't get you isn't JSP Julie Stewart Binks coming on this week. She is a well. We're not doing purgatory today. No, no purgatory. We'll see her this week. She's coming to the thing. We're doing tomorrow. Oh, right. That's right. The featured speakers that a radio of our speaking at the sports media summit, and I've got prepared remarks going to be on that. But you can't say that UCLA health training center. Yeah. That's true. Because he doesn't care about the radio summit is about him. Right. The UCLA health training center. He's about I think we're getting an award of some kind of we're getting no ward. And as a matter of fact, they named us the best sports talk show, and that I mentioned at least three times during this panel of. Nathan do that in no way. So this is a this is a radio industry thing where they have like panels and panels benefit the panel after us. Yep. Truck Keller, the head of all of you. Henry speaking on the panel. He's going to be watching. Now the question is should we understand to this? Yeah. Should we be insulted that were on in the morning rather than in the afternoon or evening? Okay. So here's the thing. It only goes from nine to five right? That's all. That's all though, we could've we could've done it four. We could have. But you have a Lakers game that night. Yeah. But it's seven. Yeah. I I'm not offended at all. In fact, I was told this primetime this primetime. First thing in the morning in what world is time thirty in the Morning Pride in the in the sports radio media summit. So Stephen A is on in primetime on our station. Let's break. Yeah. He. All right. All right. Jim javale McGee coming up. Yep. Mason. I who later MVP of the rising by the ESPN LA.
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