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Steelers Preview, the After Party: Awarding the All-Decade Steelers offense

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Steelers Preview, the After Party: Awarding the All-Decade Steelers offense

"Pittsburgh steeler fans welcome to the after party. I'm Jeff Hartmann editor of behind a steel curtain DOT COM. Joining me as always. Brian Davis Deputy Days Scofield. And we're here to talk about steelers but also a lot of other crazy stuff so settle in sit back. Relax and let enjoy this after party as we get this thing kicked off with. I want to give this some. We have some new writers on the site. Volunteer guys reached out. Wanted to be a part of the show. One of them is Carl Ludwig He wrote an article that was published today. And that was who makes the steelers all decade team on the offense this obviously stem from the pro football hall of fame release. They're all decade teams recently and two members of the Pittsburgh steelers one markey's Tounsi and one Antonio Brown made the team and he went through and kind of listening. I WANNA go his list and I want to say. Do you guys agree disagree. Would you add someone else in their? Y'All ready Oh yeah right. I don't think there's any discussion of quarterback lasts decades Ben Rothlisberger. We're going to be one running backs. This guy. Dicey leading lady on Dell is a slam dunk but he kept to. Who else makes the team in your opinion Brian as a running back who he had? Yeah there's not many the pick from wire. He had Mendenhall as second degree. Dave disagree anything anyone anyone different. So Isaac Redman. I mean honestly. See Mental aims consumers farmers. How many seasons was he passed? Two thousand ten two men was not many seat about two or three. How how many years did he's that MS fumble in the Super Bowl remember? That would be the first year the that stuff would count. I didn't think it was around that much longer. Kyle Smith Eddie Williams. Actually actually. I'm a batch really know what. I'm going to vote with Kyle. I'm going to go with the Angela Williams more productive in this lady on bell decade. Pretty much I mean he dominated everything you know a dominated touches and carries and so. There's really not much else in as as men and only played three years in the decade. I it's up to disagree. We're we're struggling to find someone. I guess is what we're getting. We're getting too so You know you could say James Connor maybe a pro bowl year. He brings up. Mendon all in the article all right. Let's go to fullback. He gave it to Roosevelt next anyway. Any disagreements their Carey Davis wasn't around. So yeah I'll go rosie okay wide receiver. I think you know Antonio Brown. He's GonNa get in he walls you put it in there. The all decade Wide Receiving Corps Mike Wallace. Que Get three days ago. I've got a guy in mind but Tony Brown Mike Wallace. Oh I mean I. For some reason. I'm still getting stuck into players. That are before two thousand ten. So that's that's what I have to think of Would it be Martavis? I mean he has. What's that I go? Jud You I mean Jude. You had two good years in there. How many how many years do you have Martavis? Bryant says Ryan's. Let's hear a lot of people are saying moncrieff. See Your moncrieff and I raise you. A sammie coates nice. Hey I saw both of us touchdowns I was there for that game. A lot of people are saying Emmanuel Sanders. I don't I think a lot of times people get the Denver Broncos and then eventually the forty niners manual sanders mixed up with the Pittsburgh Emmanuel Sanders. Yup In Pittsburgh. He didn't do a whole lot. He dropped a lot of passes. was very inconsistent. Was injured a lot. Just so we understand Carl in his article said it was a he had Antonio Brown Mike Wallis and Juju Smith Schuster the MARTAVIS. Bryant could have his name up there. I think he was dynamic. Did you guys think I mean I? I think that's those are some pretty good picks what would have been if Martavis could've just stayed off the grass near right exactly all right. Let's go to the next position tight end you get one. We know what that is. That's Heath Miller. No one's GONNA guess that second. Guess that one left tackle he. Oh go with with left tackle in the last decade. Yes some options. Well you have big Al. You do our Kelvin. Beecham for a little bit coming up. Big Al was his his pick for left tackle. Just so we know I'm probably going now. Yeah Kelvin Beach. Him is probably number. Two there was he was he was good. He just couldn't afford any more after everything. Yeah I I think Villanueva the answer. I didn't own waivers. The Guy I think that he's been there and he's played well and he's been headed pro bowl under his belt so I think that's definitely the pick. Let's go left guard Ramon Foster. I don't think there's any disagreeing there he sold on. Who else could it be exactly? Same with Markey's Pouncey at center. David Decastro right guard but right tackle different story. Who would you? Honestly you might think. I'm going Marcus Gilbert. I mean when he when he played he should have been a pro bowler when he when he played with the steelers. I mean I was there to watch him completely. Shutdown Khalil Mack. When he was playing with the Raiders. Where he didn't even register he didn't even register a statistic. Yeah in that name. That was my second ever article for buying. The steel curtain was when Matt got traded. And I said this didn't have to play on my no big deal. You Know Gilbert had it. He was fine and then he got hurt and then he was replaceable. But that's who I would say. I mean if you want to joke around with flo items but Gobert was the guy really he really was. But I would like to go back. I would like to a complaint. Jeff Hartmann you didn't give me a chance at center because it was that one year that one year the pounds he was out for the entire city and that wasn't cody Wallace. Mcgarry Paula. Just primatology cody. He was seasons. Yeah okay thanks yeah. He's he's been around but that one year talking about there was this one guy that was magical number sixty one Fernando Velasco and. I'M NOT KIDDING. That guy was pretty darn good. But of course it's Pouncey but have to throw in a plug for Fernando somewhere. He's like thank you bad thanks. Thanks both those guys played all right. Whenever pouncey missed those seasons because one was one season one was the other. The pro cody with this with that being said Fernando Velasco has now come out hanging out with me when this whole corona things. He's going to hang out with me for a week for plugging day. Yeah well that that could be good. Or bad depends. We'll see these you brought up. I want to bring this question up real quick before we go off. The rails series is a steeler related question. An Uber named Brian. They jog my memory. So I was watching Some I was on twitter today and I saw that. The steelers They did they do highlights in the off season and the flavor Joe Haden jumped the route and picked off Carolyn Marie and Arizona and I watch as what a play? That was a great play? Because Kyle Moore. You can't followed him as a rookie. You're thinking that that's going to be there. Hayden drops when he's not supposed to really kinda reads. The eyes of the quarterback picks it off. I would love for the steelers to win one for Joe Eight. You know there's always as players you're like Gosh just win a super bowl for Joe Haden. The guy's been through hell. He's been to Cleveland. Cash Flows L. Adams is another guy that he never made the Super Bowl and he made it and then they obviously lost that game against Green Bay but I always pay via grades win one for flows L. And that's that Mike. Tomlin even said when they picked him up off because people forget that he he was only one year I guys and then maybe maybe like six games. Even the whole year wasn't yes it. The hotel flows L. The hotel and so is there anyone in your. It can be current past whatever. Maybe they didn't win one form. Is there any of ever played like Gosh? I would love for them to win a super bowl for that guy who is one of them. That was that was my answer. I'm like man. I really wish I would love nothing more for them. I mean is there anyway if they're having a fantastic season and there's just something premium on isn't you know. Ring just signed silent and put them on. I R something but you just don't have the cap space put because that would be yeah. He's one of those guys I really wish would have got a ring are under monty. Dermontti Dawson deserved definitely. Leave just mazes shadier would have been another one absolutely but yet when guys like Joe. Haden leave the Cesspool. That is Cleveland in Cleveland browns. And come to the steelers. One of the reasons they come to the steelers is because they WANNA win it. They want to win the Super Bowl and they WANNA play. And that's what I want to be able to be playing in relevant games in December. So then then it's then it goes beyond that. Jaber Chip Milady Game December when he was with Cleveland diddy now but at every year he's been in relevant games in December and he played in. He was he on this. Yeah he was on the seventeen team. That lost to Jacksonville So I think those this first playoff game ever to that. Gosh they'd come on guys. You've gotTA win one for Joe. You know what and I love the fact that he was a little bit salty that he didn't make the the decade team and he came out. I mean I still think he was. He was pretty cool about it but hey he's like what about me. I wanted to be on that team and I love it. I love the man's fire. I love everything about that guy. I thought Cam should have been on it hayward well. He's he's such a tough nut to crack based on the fact that he plays defensive end and we all know about the pro voting all pro. That's probably changed to a defensive tackle. Two years ago because of the designation makes it. It makes it easy because that's really what he is so I mean that's what hurt him i. I mentioned that in the article that I did for it is that that was the biggest thing that hurt him early in his career was he didn't get more accolades because he was going up against the the likes of the. Jj Watt you know. That's that's the position they were comparing him with. You know a three four defensive end in a four three defensive and are not noth- nowhere close to each other have so you know what John L. Williams Scott Hudson brings him up? That was one of my favorite steelers. He wasn't here long. But one of my favorites dealers from those nineties team is John L. He was very grateful. Back for them in that That limited time that he was ear along with another guy. That's not a fullback. But a running back Eric. Pilgrim was another guy that I just really enjoyed and those names that you kind of forget about came from other games absolutely jet. Did you realize because it's something I brought up in the article that this this most recent all decade team was the first time since the nineteen fifties at the steelers did not have a defensive player on the team. Wow I didn't realize it because I'm trying to think about who would have made it like you said Cam and Cam came and Hayden. Were probably the two obvious ones. And the problem is is you had good defenders that were being fade. That were finishing up their career. Early in the in the two thousand ten's and then more great defenders. That are they have now. That have only been around Jay. He's only been here for three years so they definitely all those definitely along there when the tralee fourteen. Yeah yeah but I mean. He was on all decades team for the two thousands. Yeah so James Harrison Harrison was on. That team wasn't he? Yes there was only two you think James Harrison gets into the whole fame now to really. There's there's too many guys with so many more sacks at his position on the most iconic plays in super bowl history. I'd say the greatest super bowl playing all time. Yeah I agree with that. I just don't think he gets in. Okay all right guys. What do y'all have Brian. You wanted to go into your bracket now or do you want to hold that office. Let me tell you something. Being Jeff F. We were talking about wrestling last week right. And this is a ended up and we're talking about wrestling theme songs and entrance themes and so dave is the one who put me up to this and said you know we need to have a bracket and I was like I'm game. I'll go ahead and do the bracket so I'll try to be brief on this but it is a thirty two team Ribald. Gosh thirty thirty last night. High interrupt for can I interrupt for just a second because I want people to always seemed like so. I want to correct. No it was not James Harrison. That was the other player on that on that. Two thousand dollars decade team it was Allen. Santa Okay Okay. Yes so if it was not on James Harrison was not on Dick. Asha all right. Good Brian already. So we're going to go ahead and Let Jeff Kick it off. I and everybody's going to have a chance to vote on these. I'm trying to look. I kept out mater Lake new guys good but there's some that are still alive. That are probably getting old now on the I did put in there that Jeff might not be as familiar with but I mean the kind of big name so I threw them in so just bear with me but let's start off with some really kind of guys from the eighties. Jeff you got the Million Dollar Man Ted. Everybody money money money against. He's cool he's cocky. He's bad the Honky Tonk Man. I hated the Honky. Tonk man I'll take dvr. Has These Music Andy? Any Day of the week couldn't stay. Inaugu pan loved it when he got. I like the hockey talk. No but I. I fell right into that traps. Definitely Teddy Ozzy. Guys maybe a little more modern for you. But I'm not sure Mick Foley again I remember edge. I didn't like edge so I'll go Mick Foley. Edges made his comeback after no news off. So you're GonNa go with Mick Foley. Yes we've got. American music gets all right. Let's talk about some American guys here. I am Marie l'americain got Hulk Hogan against the man Eric and dream dusty. Rhodes you serious I. I was a whole maniac as a kid workout set at my house. I had a post drove me and my room. Hulk son-in-law father in law triple h the game against Vince McMahon. No chance yet at one. Dallas Dead Fan visit games by far and beaches. It's all about the game and how you play for those of you joining us like landlords and you're talking about the theme music not the wrestler themselves the theme music. Yeah Yeah I just no chance now. I accidentally skipped one. I'm going to go back to it but this one should have been before this one. I know where I'm going to just going right into then. I know you'RE GONNA GO SOO Chris. Jericho yeah I can't remember his y two J break the walls down against you smell what the rock is. Cooking Ed's easy it's Iraq. They know I already wrote it in. And I'm reading this one into town. Razor Ramon in stone cold. Steve Austin how do you have the Rock and stone cold on the same side of the bracket like those should be the polar opposites Jimmy ways? It's GONNA be stone. Cold even oozing with mccheese Mo the bug John CENA against. Oh you didn't know goes. The new age law always loved the New Age. Outlaws. Taking your. It's all about the Intro Ray. When it hit you had to know right and you knew it when you heard. Oh you know and then thousand eight as Dave and I are GONNA come in. We'll start the show since we're doing the two together but maybe David extend we do a show we go. Oh you didn't know that all the time I say all the Taj. Oh you didn't know I thought you call somebody at the finish it. Okay we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA stick with those guys. I don't know how they ended up on the same side but degeneration x okay against Goldberg Goldberg. Dmz English pretty good. It was it was pretty good. It's still wasn't the x. The X. so you're GonNa go with the X. Yes I am all right. That concludes your side. Mr Scofield sorry you got to put a close to the MIC. If you'RE GONNA play an easy I could sounds like your brain. I don't WANNA I don't want us to not be able to copyrighted ad or now but you know what Jimmy Hart wrote half of that stuff? Really? Yeah yeah a guy named Jim Johnston but Jimmy. Hart actually had a top five song with a group called. The I think it was the McCoy's it's called. Keep on dancing. And he was on that he's he was a Humans a big singer songwriter and he did it for. Wcw and the WWE. Dave you've got a big one right off the bat okay. Alternate Warrior Against Watch show Man Randy savage pomp and circumstance. I'm going with. I'm going with the Macho Man Macho Madness. It is a little bit. Get them at all right. He was so jealous of her. I'm surprised that he did not have her locked up in the house at one time. He was so paranoid of anybody go near her. I was reading this stuff about him the other day. Just what just what a character. Shane McMahon Shane McMahon's trying to think about what his he comes money. Okay I remember that but up against Mr Wrestlemainia. A sixty six two hundred K. So heartbreak kid and that song was written by the heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels himself Michael Hickinbotham. It was also written by Jim. Johnston and one more person. Jimmy Hart. We'll go with we'll go with. Hpk We're with HPK. Yeah it's the big show it's a big batch shoulder nine powhite the big show who has a new show on. Let's say that songs Brian on the show but then show against this is going to be the entertainer. Kinda say the undertaker. I mean it's just hold on the beginning of it the sample but yes Mr Perfect against his was really good. If if you might not remember it so I'm just GONNA write down nature boy. Ric FLAIR AWE. Of course two thousand two thousand one a space odyssey now for extra points. Can you name that strong? I decided to a real name. Is Honesty Ice Zoo cross stars? It's Australia believe something like that voodoo child Hollywood Hulk Hogan against the four horsemen thing. You don't even have to read anything else. You know who child out of my favorite edges. That era the entrance. It got different. It was different. It wasn't the same. It was better go ahead. Here is one of Jess favorites. Bret the Hitman Hart which was pretty cool instrumental against Kurt Angle. I was there for Kurt. Angle's first ever match live and in person in Detroit's there for survivor series in nineteen ninety nine. But I'm going to go with Bret. The hitman Hart. His music was so great they added the suck to it and he started he. He loved it. Yes ronin dorks. But it's fun NAM J. Job man's not just going after lacrosse anymore. To here's here's here's a sleeper Roddy Piper and if you don't remember it's just the bagpipes Which when he came out with the bagpipes was also. But here's a great one booker T. Slash Harlem Heat. Yeah I remember an-an-an-and and then and he was pretty good but I'm going with Roddy Piper's though I really just because it was just it brings back memories now. I know you were a big Fan. Big Fan Dave of the stink face and Ricky along with cool music. You love the to cool but then you love it better than w went went win. Show my goodness some of my favorite choice of fortunately. I'm just I'm going to have to go the wwl although I love to Coffee Music House love you just the way? Everybody's got a price. You looked it up so many so I had. I had an album actually a friend of mine and he had the album and we listen to it all the time. It was what was it. It was Wwf The music volume three from one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. And that's what I've been playing the samples from and there are some great songs on there. That did not get included. Like you didn't have. You didn't have cane. That was a really good one. I could gain. Yeah Hello Ladies Ma. Here's the thing. Here's the thing to me. An intro is all about the shock and awe so when you heard the glass break when you heard you just like you knew it right away or the lights went out. You knew what was going on. And so that's how I don't know some of the older ones. I couldn't tell you what keynes music sounds like. The lights went off and everyone freaked out because they were excited. Disabled is going to happen and then the four corners of the the ring lit up in flames. I don't know what his music was. What the entertainers the. I Dunno bells. It'll be workers. No one remembers that stuff so go ahead Brian. Let's finish this thing right macho man in H. B. K. Jeff. I'm going to his side now. We do it right there. That's that was a suggestion for. I got an email from. I can't remember who that said. Hey next time he goes do bracket switch. Switch people around. Hp Cave is on my favorites. Well I think you just pooh-poohed this next one so I'm gonNA write in write it in already undertaker and ric flair off Leah Ric Flair and booed child. And Bret Hart the chat still these Hollywood tune well in the end up A. and WWL and Roddy Piper. And W well you did well on my side there. Jeff you pick the right now. I'M GONNA. Cbs's fully could. I WanNa go and I mean that was that was really it? You knew what was going to happen when I heard that everybody has a price. He came to our area a couple years ago. I took my son nicest man in the world just to die from their Hulk Hogan Real American against the Rock. So we're GONNA WRESTLEMAINIA EIGHTEEN MAIN. By goodness how yield these guys matched up in a second batch. An easy choice. I don't think it is those are those might be my favorites. I'm going with Hulk Hogan led. What is that? We've gone the other way? I still like the rock. Moore's wrestler but I'VE BEEN AMERICAN. I mean come on man really Mac in Stone Cold Steve Austin. Easier stone cold glass breaking than than than than than than he answered. He answered it these days. Don't go away a new age outlaws and degeneration x personally. I'M GONNA chat loss upset. You didn't know that's all you have to say all right so we're going to go back to the other side now. Actually I guess we we stay on the sidelines. With Jeff you get DB Essien Hogan Hogan stone cold and the new age outlaws. S- town called. Wow they went down Dave. Hpk and Ric Flair Ric flair booed child and the N. Wwl child okay. What have you done that to Jeff? I didn't tell bad probably would have gone video job. How different beast all right all right. So we've got a final four and what we choose so here we go Just that you just you just pick jeff chanting behind me on the radio and Kyle Okay Rick Flair and Voodoo child child care. Blue Child is in the finals against stone. Cold and Hulk Hogan Dave it. What's that I always take hog and again thinking Hogan? Yeah no well. It's not. It's going to be hokey versus Hogan in the finals. Realized you'd be shocked either or thing. That was the two that I had it narrowed down to but just because I know Jeff would what were they think. I'll give them that. That's a great finale though. This is a tough recognizers. Lots of good stuff stone cold in Hulk Hogan Voodoo Child. I'll go first. Nothing if you were there. Live or even watching your living room. Nothing got you. More ant than hearing the glass break and so I'm GonNa go with stugotz Diaz and he was also probably one of my favorite wrestlers ever so it was stone. Deputy Dave I was not a stone cold fan I would have picked talk over the last round but I know Jeff WanNa kill me so I'm from the very beginning out of everything that you said my number one would have been voodoo child me. Hi folks I break now. I would've I would've messed that entire thing. Well I picked rock so so really interesting and there was a name for it in. You've got to hear the Brian. What's that you've got to I picked because we were split stone? Cold Steve Austin the. I knew. That's what you're GonNa pick to let me see. Let me say something here. Jive man is dishing on is cutting on wrestling. Okay first and foremost job man. You and I have our beef anyways about the sport of Lacrosse. Second thing it is a soap opera. Anyone that is being honest with themselves knows it's fake knows it's all there for just. The drama of it is a soap opera. You want to see action. Even if it's not really the other day I turned on Wrestlemainia those on ESPN. It was an undercard match. My wife was watching. We Watch for five minutes and she's like I don't understand what's what's going on honestly it doesn't matter it's just throughout in it's just how it ends in. There's so much drama involve leading up to and after the match and I think Shane McMahon was fighting. And no I'm sorry I was triple h was in the ring and says Stephanie McMahon was distracting. The the you know the everyone in the ring and all this stuff. Is this just part of it? It's just it's it's honestly it's entertainment and that's why they changed to world wrestling entertainment and I loved it. I haven't watched. Since that era of stone. Cold in the rock left I loved it into Jive man so I like days of our lives. Sure I'll watch days of our lives on watching it's entertaining job. Man Have Yeah when it comes to wrestling. I don't watch any more and there was a reason with behind that it will to me. It got to a point that no one could ever just wrestle anyone and just beat them it all. It got to a point at one that it was something had to interfere. Some there was always know whenever really want or anything. It just hit a stretch there for a while. That just got frustrating for me and I was even watching a paper with friends and no one was actually watching the pay per view. I realized I'm like yeah. I think I think about but but but by high school my my twelfth grade English teacher who you know why we why we are learning. Shakespeare said he acquired. He said you want to know the closest thing the Shakespearean acting these days forget going to movies or anything else watch professional wrestling. Those guys are talented. It's not about the even when they come out and talk that's one thing he's like but the but the things they can do physically and still go out and then do it a week later. Why not actually hurting each other in that way? He says it's the most amazing acting you ever see that leads but that way you can really appreciate it now. That leads to a question. I was going to ask both you in day of you. And Jeff because athletes. Where do you put these guys on the athletes scale? You take the scripting out of it. How athletic you have to be to be able to do that job. Well let's be honest you take. The scripting added for instance. I'll never forget when mankind Mick Foley got choke slammed through the top of the Helen L match. Pittsburgh landed on thumb tacks and a bunch of other stuff. You don't fake that. He stood up at thumb tacks in his back. Okay I'm not saying that it's Oh. My Gosh let's rushing to the hospital. He could have gone to the hospital. But I'll say this guys are tough. You know they are tough. A lot of it is fake but you talked to any wrestle. The chest slaps those are real. They do connect puncher to athleticism. I don't know to me athletic. Being an athlete is definitely a tough debate. Because not everyone could do. What the wrestlers do yet not everyone can do with. Nfl player does either. You know there are the few like the rock who did those a football player Miami but when into wrestling Obviously Kurt Angle was a wrestler wrestler. Goldberg You have brock. Lessner was arrested in mixed martial arts. they're definitely. Actually they're definitely athletes. But I I don't know where they fall on the hierarchy. It's it's different. Depending on every sport it takes a different type of person to be able to do professional wrestling than play football or play basketball or those are the things I mean. Think about it look at Golf. I mean the guys that are out there professional wrestling not not the golfers. Don't have to be in shape. I mean not. All of them are but a lot of them. Part of WHAT MAKES THEM? So good is is if they stay in shape right. Jeff yes making sure about anything crazy vogue about but you know I don't know how many professional wrestlers golf I don't know how many golfers could push right so it's just different athleticism. It's different skills. Let me just real quick Brian before he said his. Jessie George summed up MY ADOLESCENCE IN ONE MESSAGE. I wrestled on a trampoline like a champ that was made so who were the last two steelers to wrestle in per views. Tapis I duNno Kevin Greene. Okay in the Angela Williams. I've forgotten body will. That wasn't wwe though that was TNA guy. Yeah but that was at the same time when angle was still there. And they're I mean they're staying was still. There is some big names there. So that's all I've got on the on the bracket the winner was won't do what you tell me the official name for the stone cold. Steve Austin theme. We'll do what you tell me. They yeah I guess what am I ever bracket next week. I'll tell you what won't be a long one eight eight things. Whatever that is that you could probably do sixty four get through it faster Bryan because Bryan soggy picture Dave Echo. I know package. Glad you're microphones plugged in. That's all I was sorry bride. I just told you know what? Sometimes I'm not known for my brevity and I know that but sometime like the Bob Ross of bt Se. I picture happy happy. Alright Dave for tonight really I. I was afraid for Brian's bracket I figured that was going to take up the whole show. I didn't realize yeah I just. I thought I thought that was it. I mean if you want me to try to bring up something racket in two seconds go right a bracket two seconds so or you can bring it on a playlist again. Bring out a playlist. So y'all listen to any music any new music out there and they knew music. Yeah New Music listening to music although he no no no no no this got me thinking I was I actually had to had to go out and and do a pickup order at the store This afternoon because when you want to get stuff for your kids for for for Easter and you don't want to go shop you order it and some things they said all you got to pick up the store so I went out to get. The radio was on and song came on and I'm like because of a movie. This song will never be the same again anyway. You guys ever have that where where where because of it was either on a TV show was. This was this. Was I tell you what it is? It's completely random. Let me yes absolutely ready. I bet you don't. I bet you out because it's from a movie actually from two movies. Okay then I'm probably ruled why. What was it. I was hip to be square. That's a good one but no that wasn't it completely changed. Ub Forty version of baby. I love your way from that is from Jumanji. Welcome to the jungle gym on to the next level all Jeff. Those hilarious asked me the new interest rates up. Yes so yeah. I love the original. You love the rock. I mean the first of the newer ones when Jack Black is playing a teenage girl where two teenage girl. That's hilarious. You know rude. I think it's on our DVR. I think it's a Dr Watch it. I've I've got the next two on. Dvd I actually leave the house or start Blu Ray. I could even let you watch the second one which some people say was good. I went in with low expectations. I I liked it just as much as the first pain when you throw in the Danny's to the mix Danny Devito all my goodness rock as data veto hilarious. But I'll tell you what Kevin Hart as Danny Glover. He's like did I die. Connect as a small muscular boy scout. I mean you know saying but yeah because it both those movies anytime hear that Song Baby. I love your way. You'd be forty. I can't help but think of that movie now. I have a question for you guys. You're all dad's this'll be the last seventy four Yorker actually on this one. You'll handle Easter in your house. You all do gifts I mean mostly baskets I grew up in a household where lenny prefaced with probably we wouldn't have. We would get a basket very small basket. My would hide it have to find it. My Mom. Who's a French teacher? She would actually travel to France every other year and there were a couple of times where she was gone over eastern those years my dad got my brother and I are bag of Hershey kisses through on our beds. And there you go. You don't have to this as other as a father. There are some people that go all buck wild for Easter. They gifts they get closed. They get baskets. I'm like man. I am not doing any of that. How'd Y'all handle it Brian? What are you doing the Davis we actually? I mean we go crazy Christmas for Easter. We go fairly small For All of the we kind of have a role in our house with every holiday once fifth grade is over. Tooth very doesn't come back. Santana's comeback Easter bunny doesn't come back. We have that we have a contract with the holiday the holiday characters not to come back at that point and it's understood and so this will be the last holiday My wife looks at me today and say we have nothing going on and somebody expects the basket so we. We still do a small basket. We don't go crazy Dave Brian. Anthony Davis I was in college and I still had Santa I was I was. It was the Christmas before I got married and I still had Santa and this I agree that we did. Yeah I know but I had them in college do when we always got basket. The baskets were always just sitting there We always got up at like five o'clock in the morning to go to sunrise service. Who you could look at the basket. But you couldn't touch it and all that stuff but it was just tons of candy and see with with my kids. We just don't do as much candy as we should like. They still have Halloween because they only have a little bit of it at a time. So we don't do. We don't need more candy. So that's what my wife we got. We get a couple. Smaller gifts is what we do for our kids. That's what they get a couple of a few years ago. We did a big. That's when the kids found out that in six days they were leaving for Disneyworld. We did one of those one time but they also get like they'll have some plastic eggs that they find that have some like like. Hershey kisses her some cups just a couple other than that I think they the kids get like a book and movie and maybe one other thing and something fun yeah about how about Hartman household should name would've aning. We've already told our together. Easter bunny is not is not real. Like Corona sorry. You'RE GONNA lose viewers. There don't joke about that that I don't. We don't have any eggs. That's the thing we didn't have. We used to dye eggs and stuff that I can't stand despising quick comment we turn sure go for it. I I gotTA throw this out so I jumped into it on Saturday and we talked about what kind of shows we're watching during the quarantine and what's coming up and I jumped into the phenomenon. Headfirst chanted feller me a fan of the tiger gig great trainwreck record. Ever watched me what I heard people talking about that. Show that watching. That sounds like a show. Bad Watch O. E. X. Literally the first thing I thought about what I heard about it the first time. It is absolutely incredible. It was a documentary. And there's people like this out there and it's not what you think it just it goes into a murder plot murder-for-hire plot and it's all it's fantastic and it's such a phenomenon that yesterday during the the presidential briefing on the on he was asked about pardoning but whatever it is joe exotic which do bad exotic because of that it's a seven episodes. I just absolutely see there. You Go Kevin Kathy's intimate Kathy. Kathy knows it's you know if it wasn't for the quarantine not a Lotta people would watch his show. Nobody would know about it. But talk about great timing. I mean the best timing to have this. Come out when people are looking for something but we started watching Shits Creek. Which is really funny. Very funny show is a really funny show like my wife I. It started off slowly. We're starting from episode one season two and a real slow man. Levy Levy families hysterical. They are hysterical. Because it's a family affair with that show. It's tremendous so are watching. Everybody hates Chris this week and I sat down watching it with Dan. That's a fun show gives. You've got Chris Rock narrating anything Terry crews in yes. I love these giant. Tell you what you know what you know what our big thing is. Been fantastic reality show. That's been on season finale. Next week my kids are super into it. Lego masters it's been wonderful on Fox on. Dvr My son likes to watch it. I'll watch it but then every now and then we watched a lot of TV during quarantine. So we've been outside more now than we ever playing outside. Play not trust me. We're we're we're still social social distancing. People don't freak out on us. The hardwoods are looting. The mall. Don't go governor Hogan with his black mask on all right ever that. We're going with that wraps up the after party. Thanks for sticking with us. We hope that you all stay safe. Stay strong in initiate check next week. Another steelers pre the after party guys. Good show will see next time.

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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: The 2020 Steelers have a knack for winning nervously

Behind the Steel Curtain

12:54 min | 3 weeks ago

Steelers Hangover, Part 2: The 2020 Steelers have a knack for winning nervously

"Welcome back to the steelers hangover a good hangover indeed when the Pittsburgh steelers three and Tony this is face down ugly in your in your own stink. This is where I'm partying. So I'm tying went on the steelers hangover. It's a good one this week. Once again as you can see from our thumbnail for this when you see the steelers hangover steelers, fans partying, I don't WanNa break out the the dejected fans. Dealer hangover a thumbnail and I'm not to bring them out for a long time. steelers have not been three, four, ten years I would love to see them go four now and I gotTa tell you. I probably can't tell you the last time I remember the steelers being four now do you know this Tony I do I know this nineteen, seventy nine and I think we all know what happened that year? Nineteen seventy nine. We've had we had a double chain. We were city champions my friend I tried yet and you know what's funny because that team in Nineteen, seventy nine. Not. A lot of people realize that team turnover the ball a lot though yes. I mean, as great as bradshaw and Harris where they eat, they would turn the ball over but they knew how to win in this team the. It seems like the steelers in this nervous game, we talked about them getting having a knack for winning nervously. It seems like this team right now is finding to win and more confident in ways to win, and it's Ben Rothlisberger. Is One of the guys that is leading the leading these young players in showing them how to win and once they once they have that neck. That winning nervously starts winning emphatically. So I'm pretty excited about that but four, no one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, nine. That's an awful long time. That's forty one years my friend I think they need to match it. We need the excitement of that and we'll see what happens this week. So what we WANNA do. We want to go ahead and have you. Ask Your questions we're going to bring some QNA. Portions in the end into the game. So here we go. Dallas Quinn asks, and I'm going to bring that up. You See McFarland playing more and smell less. What did you say the division of Labor between those two were seven apiece believe that's what I i. I checked the box score yesterday and a few times today. I believe it was seven a piece. Actually you know what I think McFarland had six. So six average seven. So six, forty two and it's now had seven I believe for eleven yards. So it's seven and six. So it's. Basically. Even. You know what? I think they are going to get even lucks I. Like that change of pace they are different kinds of runners I like having them both in there we saw with the forty niners did with it last year but I still WANNA see. James. Connor. Be Your Belco like that. I have no problem with that now and I know I talked about it. Completely differently two weeks ago we voted did. But but that's a little bit of frustration in that wasn't the that wasn't keeping the insight to know that. Hey, look they'll be okay. It just looked like he wasn't running well, right? He's running low now and the steelers are the only team. To have three, one, hundred yard rushers. In the first three games, well, one hundred yard rushers they don't have three, they've two one, hundred yard rushers in the first three games the team do that really interesting as well. steelers. Imagine Eleven nineteen eighteen with eighty, five, eighty, nine on the field later this year or in the playoffs. Yeah. That's what we were talking about. The steelers tank. That's pretty exciting. Lamont Curry. If steelers beat titans Browns Ravens Cowboys, Super Bowl, we will win. That's almost Yoda ash super bowl. We will win. You know what? That could be a possibility, but you've gotta learn how to beat the Ravens twice in a season The browns are an interesting team to me. They're no longer the if it's Brown flush down team right with that running game that they have. Baker Mayfield has a great insurance policy knowing that he can give it to Nick Chub or throw it to Kareem Hunt those guys are racking up yards that is a fantastic running team. They're AJ Gavin Anthony. Connor will be the bell cow, but the others will be filling in when he needs rest and give a change of pace. An Aunt Mak at the same time and I'm just learning I just learned about that name yesterday. I didn't really Jeff Hartmann caught him aunt Mac and I didn't realize that was his name. So it Makes it's like. My my two favorite things, macaroni and cheese and ant man Paul Rudd. Paul Rudd the casual steelers fan too. So, there you go. Big MARV asks this bad. You think the steelers will keep the pace up or go cold. Now I don't see them go cold because this is the exciting thing for me. You have teams like the titans, the cowboys, the Ravens coming up. They don't always lose to those teams. They're going to lose games to one of them. They're not going to go three now against those teams. But they they seem to take those teams on the schedule that should be an automatic loss, play them tough in shock them and they do that all the time we saw that with the Kansas City chiefs just a couple of years ago. When they beat the chiefs in the teas were six. Now we have seen them defeat the Baltimore Ravens before. So I'm not worried about that. Are you worried about them going hold Doni? I know I think the great thing about the defense they have is even if the defense struggles, you know it's never going to let it get a game get away from it like in years past I, it's just too talented. So I, think the defense will always keep them in game. So even if they do go on offense are still going to have a chance to win at the end and innovated you lose a game or two here, and there are going to be an extended losing streak because they had that defense and now they have been back. So there's just I think there's a little bit too much there for them to be. Tend to go cold for an extended period of time. Here's an excellent Question Reginald rivers my man Reggie. Of a tough question for you, who should the steelers Sign long-term Hilton or Sutton Tony I have my answer I'm GonNa throw to you I. Well, I think they should shine Hilton, long-term because I think he wanting the best in the business. Overall. I, mean he has great instincts obviously getting after quarterback, but he still a really good. above way above average slot corner but they're probably not going to be able to sign them probably get a huge raise next year. So it Oh, I'm guessing it'll. It'll be sutton that they try to go after. Donald Nolan asked what about thirteen thirteen James Washington is one of their most unheralded players but he is a fantastic piece of the puzzle. He's going to win a game or two for you alone James Washington. Is the epitome of a team player I. Love The nickname grandpa strong that Ike Taylor gave him I. don't even know if he realized he was giving them a nickname but this guy, he's he's a farm kid he blue-collar he plays tough. He catches the ball tough. He's our recalled him last year at the Combat Catcher I love everything about James Washington. The problem when James Washington, he's going to get overshadowed and guess what James Watson doesn't care about that. He's going to go out and do his thing what's thought on Thirteen Tony I I. Love Him. I'm a big James Washington backer I i. I always thought he was. Underrated he's been underrated since since. Beginning of last year I thought he did an excellent job last year with the. Leading, team receiving yards with the quarterback play away it was. And the, and he's he's going to have another fine year. This year I think and the great thing about these receivers is is. Ben does not have to worry about getting the ball of one specific person. So you're GONNA see a lot of these guys having big games taking turns. You're gonNA, see you you have a have a decent game you're going to see Deontay Johnson Washington of you Click Chase Pool Eric? Brown. Included tight ends your that's that's the great thing about about this receiving core tight ends as you. Can distribute the wealth really evenly whereas in the past you had to worry about getting the ball that a be all the time and it just I think I think that that that put a little bit too much pressure on Ben whereas this year he's just going to go for their for the. He's already shown that if you look at the targets, he's he's looking for the guide US Open. And that's a huge thing as well, and that leads to this question Bri one six. Oh, seven Oh ones any concerns with Ben's deepal accuracy a little but I think it's coming I. Think it's about to hit I think the rust is being shaken off that this preseason is over Bri. So I'm thinking that yeah, there's a little bit of a concern, but it's not keeping me up at night I. think that's we're GonNa see that solved and that's going to be a question. Tony. Yeah. I'd be more concerned if he couldn't throw the ball deep I think I think he his arm look stronger than it did. Two years ago when he was having trouble, he seemed like he was always under throwing guys deep balls or is this year? It's it's it's over three and I think it's just a matter I got it's been in the League as long as he has. He's. He's a longest tenured steeler ever now so i. If his arm is healthy, he'll figure out he'll figure it out and and and get the accuracy back on those depots. That's his thing I mean at Ben Loves doing that more than anything. So he's going to he's going to get his accuracy back on the deep ball. It's just a matter of time. You know what I want to say something about Ben Rothlisberger. This might be my favorite version of Big Ben. I think I'm enjoying watching him more than I have in a long time and I'm talking through Super Bowl years I mean I loved watching him don't get me wrong I just there's something special about Ben to me this year. Seven touchdowns one interception I believe that's that's the line I wanNA knock on wood on that because we've seen them have those five interception games but you know I'm I'm loving what I'm seeing from I. Think it's all going to come together. You know what I just realized. I did not. Answer Reginald rivers question. So I'M GONNA go quick into that I think Hilton has become the guy in preseason. I. Was thinking that that. He was less expendable than that filer. Now, I'm thinking that the things that Mike Helton brings this team every single week he's on pace to have. Twelve quarterback sacks this year. Through to Saxon three games, that interception yesterday was huge other way emboldened bazaar predictions second week in a row last week. Joe Haden this week, Mike Helton I predicted who had the steelers interceptions Leonardo Torres asked whereas Minka? MINGKA's their MINGKA's come coming. MINGKA had a great tackle yesterday or a pack pass break up. I just don't think you're seeing A. The secondary the way you WanNa see him with what's happening with the front seven being so dominant something's got something's gotTa give. I still think those guys are a little bit on an island, but you notice no points you couldn't pass in the second half on them as well. That secondary straighten out I wouldn't worry about MINKA. Rhino tool ask this question. How would you grade the rafts? What was being ridden like pony and Ben. Had that I out. Here's the thing with the refs I thought during the broncos game that they weren't as bad. The rest weren't as bad as everybody else thought. Now, a lot of people disagree with me on that I have no problem on that. That's fine. Yesterday the steelers only got nailed with two penalties. Yeah, it was. It was a Benz intentional grounding which as Dave Scofield and Jeff Hartmann pointing out I. think it was more Dave yesterday pointed out that events McDonnell was just little bit more in the end zone. Then that's not an intentional grounding. It's not going to be as agree just because he was actually trying to go to him but you still have to call that and the other one was.

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FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: Monday Football Monday interviews BTSC

Bleeding Green Nation

08:54 min | Last week

FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: Monday Football Monday interviews BTSC

"The following segment is from Monday football. Monday on the SP nation NFL show where we're discussing your favorite team subscribe to the SP nation NFL show. Don't miss conversations like this one. Jeff Hartmann from behind the steel curtain espionage home for Pittsburgh steelers content was kind enough to join us. Here is his conversation with the one and only the Debonair Michael, kissed. Jeff these steelers come away with the win against the eagles in a wild one. Did you come away from this one satisfied or concerned like how did you feel about this one overall I'm gonNA stand on the fence here and played those sides a year you're satisfied with thirty eight points scored at least is the first time they scored over thirty since two, thousand eighteen. Didn't hit the thirty mark all without Rothlisberger in two thousand nineteen but then when your defense just. I mean, the these no name receivers for the eagles were running all over of in you're thinking this is supposed to be vaunted Pittsburgh steelers defense a top tier elite defense in the League is certainly look that at times. So I think that steelers fans are happy. They love when they score a lot of points and they did that for sure but they don't like to have to score a lot of points and that's exactly what had happened. It was a shootout in the purest sense of the turn of the word and you look at third down offense efficiency for both teams but. A lot to like in a lot to dislike the from this game for the steelers yet both teams were over seventy percent on third down. That's wild. Then when you look at like you kind of mentioned the big mismatch in this one was the steelers defensive line against the Eagles Patchwork offensive line lean Johnson even went out in in one point of the Game Jack Driscoll Win, and they're the eagles are starting a former rugby player at left tackle and you and you would think that like bud debris would go off on him but like a and they still did they still did a solid job at certain points like Mile Sanders had the seventy four yard touchdown run after that I think he had ten carries for six yards but you. Expected a lot more from his defensive line, right watching the eagles leading up to the game. Obviously, the steelers didn't play in week four and thinking holy cow the steelers might get tense acts on Carson Wentz I mean it was it looked like that was going to happen but you know what Philly is a good coaching staff and they they're definitely prepare their players for the best they can, and it's a patchwork unit but the steelers you know the five sacks they recorded that's really deceiving because they only had two. I believe until the very last stretch of series where I think they got three on Wednesday. In the last two series of the game. So to me, that's a little bit. It's a little deceiving but yeah, I I was very TJ watching leave the game with a shoulder at one point. But bribed Qaeda's the eagles especially tackles because they kept a pre in check until the very last drive. So I was expecting more but the steelers didn't get it and this is what happens when the steelers don't get to the quarterback their secondary gets exposed shot. So Eagles Offensive Line Coach Jeff Scotland. So let let's talk about some good things from there from the steelers in this game because the second round rookie. Chased play pool is the first player to record for touchdowns in his first rookie to record for touchdowns in a single game since Jerry Butler did it for the bills back in nineteen seventy, nine what has he brought to this offense and should should we have seen this coming from him based on how he played to this point i? Don't know if anyone saw four touchdowns happening in week five or the fourth game visit career but the one thing I cannot ever get out of my mind is that when you think about everyone laughed when Chris Simms when he was drafted by the steelers compared PA- Mega Tron, and that's absurd. But when you think about just physical stature. Chase capable six, four, two, hundred, thirty pounds in can run like a sub four four hundred, Forty Yard Dash. That's insane. That's Ben Rothlisberger size in stature with the ability to run that fast like that's incredible and you can see now like he does not look like a rookie is when he has the ball in his hands, he is a horse he is tough. To take down, he's shown that he can run the route tree. He's not a quote unquote one trick pony like Mike Tomlin wants dubbed. Mike Wallace. When he was in Pittsburgh, he can he can do it all and he's running the ball I mean this is they've been giving him that end around on the jet sweep motion he did it in New York and we Was To seal the game and he scores a touchdown on it in here against the eagles, they have a very, very large and very useful weapon in chase capable. I don't think anyone saw bursting onto the scene like this but man is it something to watch especially when people were thinking like he might have to move to tight end in the NFL yeah. Just a crazy performance from pool good for him and he he's doing real well for them in and is helping the steelers go to four no on the season but they do have a tough slate ahead. They have the browns were playing some really good football maybe some. Inconsistencies there. But there what what are they four and one now they have the titans and they have the ravens next what's the expectation for this team moving forward well, I think that anyone that looked at the schedule. Now, grain of the titans are supposed to be in the first quarter and that got moved but ultimately everyone said, did the steelers had to take care of business because it's a softest part of their schedule and they did just that you know I mean you can't. You can't be mad at how their games on the schedule said they went four no in the first four. So they did the job now's when the. Tough. Slade starts to come up and you mentioned some of these big AFC North Games with Baltimore you look at the Cleveland game that Tennessee game, which was supposed to be a bye week. Now, as another heads a tough road game going down to Nashville, and then even after Baltimore, they have to go down the Dallas for a game down there, which is a tough place to play. For Pittsburgh. So the the the only gonNA get more difficult. They haven't played a division game yet, which is hard to believe. They'll change that on Sunday in week six when Cleveland comes a Heinz field but the Pittsburgh steelers seen to and I've always said. This Mike Tomlin if he has an issue, it's against teams that they're supposed to beat when it's a game that is a big time game in a big time spot he typically steps up and get the team ready I. I think I like their chances better in this stretch than I do maybe in the first because you're afraid of that letdown game yet they they are constantly getting into trap games that they have no business gang in. That's that's funny I. is there any concern what's up with the offense a little bit more the limitations with Big Ben a show up in the analytics he's only averaging seven air yards per throw. That's. Of the League do you think we start to see him gradually coming on in the vertical passing game as he works himself back or what's the level of confidence in big Ben and being able to push it down the field I think it's a little bit of a mixture of him still coming back from that elbow injury but I think it's also taking what the defense is giving and I think that Ben Rothlisberger as he has matured as a quarterback. He is become a little bit more cerebral. You know, I you talked to people that know him that covered him for his entire career. They would tell you that early in his career, he was not a film junkie he was going to show up on Sunday. I'm going to run around throw some defensive linemen off my back and make a play down the field. He's changed a lot. He's definitely now more of the more intelligent he can see what the defense wants to do and. If they're going to give them these little underneath routes will that's what he's GonNa do at the same time. You do know the in these games that we just talked about. It's GonNa come a point where you're gonNA have to push the ball down the field. His deep passing has been a little radic I. Think his arm is actually a little bit stronger than what he thought. It was GONNA be coming off a surgery he's been overthrowing e passes, but if he can get those. Intermediate routes, which is weakness right now, and that's according to a lot of sources including pro football focus. If he can get his intermediate routes down than I, think that he's everything that they would expected him to be, and then some coming off that season season ending injury last year week two he's just he's a smarter quarterback in he knows that he has a defense on the other side that is good enough to win a lot of football games in he said it publicly sometimes. Upon isn't a bad thing. So he's might not be taking the risks that he wants to but I don't have any I. Don't have any concerns about Rothlisberger for it. I really don't yeah I mean you look at his time to throw he is at two point two, four seconds time to throw per pf at the third-fastest in the league. That is not what you think of. When you think of the big band you think of in the podcast pump fake do all the streets. But you're right he is playing more cerebral this any and it's working for a quarterback rating of on a one, twenty, five point two when he gets rid of it in less than two point, five seconds. So it really is working for like you said, it's kind of what the defense is giving them a Jeff I really do appreciate you stop invited sock with us here on Monday football Monday let the gentle listeners know where they can find you were they could find your. Work the podcast all stuff plug away obviously behind a steel curtain dot com, the Co editor there that websites of Pittsburgh steeler fan you WanNa go there to be your one stop shop for all things steelers in audio anywhere where you get a podcast says spotify Google play stitcher anchor Pandora you name it were there just search steelers or search by the Silk Curtain Daddy Adolescent make sure you don't miss our next conversation by subscribing to the SP nation NFL show wherever you get your podcasts.

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Standard is the Standard: Devin Bush and company finally hit the field at Rookie Minicamp

Behind the Steel Curtain

44:17 min | 1 year ago

Standard is the Standard: Devin Bush and company finally hit the field at Rookie Minicamp

"The Pittsburgh Steelers fans guilt and on this is Jeff Hartmann editor of behind the curtain dot com. With another episode of the standard is a standard is a special Saturday night episode why Sunday's mother's day and when it's mother's day. And you have a wife, and you have kids you free day in with had said, I bring my co host lands Williams who has a wife who has kids gonna free that day. What's going on? Absolutely Jeff has a wife who has a lot of kids. So he's good free up like at least two days. My wife is a raging alcoholic. That's the only reason she puts up with me. I'm just kidding. No. She's. I was gonna say what does she naturally for minute of you guys are so help me. She must step on potatoes. And put it in barrels for minute, invaded, the backyard and his Hartman vodka. Yes. Yeah. That's good stuff, by the way that Hartman. So all right. Let's start off with happy mother's day to anyone out there that might be listening. I know that our demographic on YouTube is not a female audience. I guess it's more about what we talk about than anything else. But nonetheless, if we're listening on podcasts, or maybe you're in the car with someone that is females of other happy mother's day from all of us behind the curtain dot com and hear the podcast and platform, Lance. Go had say the same. I echo those settlements. Happy mother's day to my mom. Jackie williams. Happy mother's day. Mom, love you this much. Love you hard rock is my mom says. And also, I want us in a big shot out to my cousin Jerome DeWitt Wilson. The third who was turning twenty one years of age as we record this program. Very proud of you trae keep doing your thing. You're awesome. Young man. Absolutely. So let's get started off with what's going on with the Steelers right now. And that is that they are. Participating independent when you're listening to this episode. If he waited until Monday, then rookie minicamp has already concluded if you're listening to his live or if you're hearing about Sunday, then they have one day left. They ran their three day mini camp Friday Saturday Sunday, then they'll be a little bit of a LOL as they continue with their organized team activities phase two and then face three will start on the twenty first of may I wanna say thought that three weeks of that. And then they will eventually wrap up with minicamp again and it's the off season schedule. So that's just how it rolls. But in rookie minicamp, there's not a lot you can draw from it. But there have been some noteworthy things that are taken place. A so far on Friday. A Devin Bush was everyone's focal point everyone to see how he ran his drills. Everyone wanted to see what is demeanor is like and from what everyone said now there were no veterans there. So take with a grain of salt. He was every bit the leader that he was talked about and discussed to be he. He was calling the defense. He was making a correct calls in the way he's talked about. It was I just have to learn the verbiage. He knows the defense. I just have to learn the language that they use here. No answer, you someone that is excited about that. Or do you just say rookie, minicamp, whatever? Well, you know me. Yeah. Rookie minicamp, but it's good to see that. He has two AP first team all pro votes in already. Yeah. Absolutely. He there's a lot of people that think that he could be that splash that dynamic player. The Steelers needed. I've gone on record as saying I think he could be in. You could disagreed Newlands. He he gives you the most dynamic defender this dealers have had on their roster. Destroy Paula Malla. I'm not saying he is Troy problem. Ali but name a day night dynamic defensive player that I'm talking about a player that can completely turn the tide since Troy retired. Well, it's only been three it's been it's been Troy Shazia. And Bush because when you look at their Combi measurable 's they are that quick twitch type of athlete that checks those boxes, and it just has to translate to the field. But to what Bush was saying and not to minimize those comments. It's essentially just just imagine fans you go to France. I mean, you know, everything in front of you like, you know, what a car is. You know, what a bike is. You know, what a restaurant, you know, at fish is. You can look in the restaurant and see everything you want an order. But you just don't know how to order it. You don't know the words to order it. You can point it out you recognize everyday. And that's kinda what Devon bushes in. That's where he's at. He knows defense. He knows the concept structurally. He just has to be able to communicate it because it's a language. They all speak the same language in the better, you speak the language the clear, you communicate it you can start playing fast to your instincts in to those measurable times. It'll be interesting to see how he handles when the veterans there. Veterans at no the defense or they're in is he still making the right calls. You know, those are the things that I look forward to. But it's still in my opinion. It you hearing positive news positive press, never a bad thing. And I guess you could say to the other notable aspect of rookie minicamp is that the other player. I think a lot of fans were just excited to see mainly because of the position in that was Deontay Johnson. The their second pick in the draft their first third round draft pick the wide receiver from Toledo. He did some individual drills on Friday did not participate in any team like or offense complete offense of drills and today from whatever Ed he is was not even doing much of anything probably has a link lingering injury. No one's going to say what it is. Don't expect them to say what it is. It doesn't seem to be the serious nature. So I wouldn't be concerned. But that's kinda disheartening. You kinda wanna see everyone's. Tabbing him to be the next day Antonio Brown, and you're gonna have to wait and see Lance. Rookie minicamp injuries myth same. I guess I think injuries are more more of an issue. I think that's the most important thing. We are talking about minicamp rookie minicamp is injuries. Because I don't know the extent of the installation of either the offense or defense or what they're trying to give these players what abbreviated menu or appetizer menu. So to speak that they're giving these guys, but you want the guys to be healthy to digest as much as they can as quickly as they can. So anytime that a young player is not practicing. That's a negative. I mean, injuries are the biggest thing right now. But to your point Jeff about when veterans come into to call the defense. It's that unspoken non verbal communication that vets have when they can just look at each other. And they give somebody a wink ahead. Not where you don't make a call. But you guys see the same things and you react in concert. Because you've been playing together so long, and that's an all that you got to work through all that stuff. And I'm sure also when they're calling a defense, and they're saying certain things there's probably some slaying in there. So some words that they might inject, you know, where they might not say, FOX trot Tango. They might just say teach, you know, FTT or something, which means foxtrot Tango. So they don't have to say it all out just these different little nuances when you're playing defense when the vets come in when that you have to pick up as well. Yeah. And, but you know, like, I said there were a lot of good comments made by people in regards to players like Benny snow junior that he needs showed some good hands catching the football. I mean, they're not going to be tackling anybody. It's not like he's gonna be going against live tackling drills. Justin lane. Look good. They look very athletic long. Just everything is basically tab to be no one disappointed. There was no there were no one that you reporters are saying this guy can't catch. You know? So stone. Sammie coates. We could go on. But anyways, so that's rookie minicamp, and like I said, he take it with a grain of salt because it's their first time, but it is their first time putting on the jersey putting on the new helmet in. So therefore in that case, it is significant the other news that has been going on with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Is none other than number nineteen juju Smith Schuster and lands a few as a month ago. Probably he did a his own podcast. He I said it big shout out to his show. Because if you're not listening to that you need to tremendous he did a show where it was basically, titled juju gets it. He gets it and is another area where he gets it is not just as social media presence in how utilizes social media is the fact that this is what was reported jujubes fish used to taking his dog Biji, very popular animal on Instagram for a walk and he saw this park in Pittsburgh. And he went to the community, I guess the community area. Whatever the. The office. And he said I would like to hold a get together. Like a water balloon fight here at this park is possible. And they said, yes, he I mean this happened today on Saturday. He brought in these gigantic inflatable slides. He had all these water balloons, but the story goes further than that. So he paid for a Kona ice truck to show up to give free cone Eissa kids. He paid for this local company to provide sandwiches when they ran out of sandwiches. He paid for a hundred pizzas to be delivered. And then even someone said that WalMart early that morning. He was there buying the water toys and stuff for the event. And as he was leaving. He saw kid with a charity mug asking for money. He put nine hundred bucks into the charity bug. This guy gets it, man. He just gets it. I mean, I couldn't have said it, you know, any better. I mean. To be able to do all this it. It has to be part of his personality because you can't fake this type of stuff. Right. You know, like, I don't have the personality for that. Like, I'm not gonna throw a water balloon stuff at a park and are probably giving Kate. Somebody coming out of WalMart. But like, Nah, I just trained all day, you know, trying to get a break, man. Get away from it. He is absent this feels absolutely genuine and the only way that this level of genuineness backfires would be if he got hurt. In the water balloon fight. I'm assuming he participated in the water balloon fight. No. Ju ju. Yeah. Yeah. Likability is big EMMY likeability is big being able to relate being relatable to fans is big all that build your brand. All that all that builds could will for you in the city. So when you drop a pass in New Orleans, and your genuine about how hurt you are about it fans. Give you a break fans are upset, but fans give you a break being nice is always a good thing being likable is always a good thing. Now, it's not a good thing to be likable at the expense of your own character enduring things that you shouldn't be doing just to be likable just to do it for that purpose when it's not genuine. But you know, you get the sense that it's gene, which you. I mean, that's why I said juju Kitson I mean, his personality is perfect for today's climate of how sports is covered and he here. Exactly, right. And genuine is the keyword here that comes to mind, and I don't know him personally. I've never met him. But. You talk to people. Whether it's on social media, re comments that people that have that say, this is this guy is is genuinely is isn't a facade. He's not putting on an act for cameras or anything that he shares so much of his life on social media. Whether it's is Instagram, stories, Snapchat. He has his own YouTube channel, he's okay. Putting his life out there. And there's nothing for him to hide at least at this juncture. And he said it himself. He said, I'm still a kid. He's twenty two he's still like doing I still like playing video games. I still like going and having fun at a park with friends. So he did this. I tell you what I can't think I'm trying to think of a player in last thing about this yourself as I describe it that his come into the Steelers organization in has been beloved so quickly. As juju. Smith Schuster has. I mean TJ watt was taken in right away. For a lot of different reasons. The position that he plays the watt name stuff like that. But at the same time issues like at a different level and a lot of it is essential media stuff. And he plays video games. He's always he plays video games with fans on online. Can you think of anyone it isn't have to be this team? It can be any generation a team that is coming and everyone's like embrace them right away. I'm just going to say the the thing that came to mind was fast, Willie Parker. Okay. People like fast Willie. I mean, they like those. Yeah. Yeah. It was like fast Willie fast Willie was super humble he was a super humble do like his humility particularly in his relationship with Jerome Bettis. I mean, he was the super humble do everybody. Love will. We fast Willie was an instant hit Pittsburgh 'cause Pittsburgh loves running game as well. And he was fast, and he was put up monster games. So all that and his county happy. Oh auch. Jack's kinda, you know, people like that. So I would say fast Willie. Yeah. That's a good one. I wouldn't have thought of Willie Parker as an undrafted player and stuff. Yeah. It's a good story. It's a good story. Meanwhile, g Smith Schuster as rookies like going into the locker room I and locking the doors behind him. So no one else can get into the locker room. He's basically just he's like as they called him. He's like the little brother on the team that just picks on the older brother all the time. That's him. As percent. Here's the thing. But here's the thing. Would you? He's gotta keep playing. Well. Because if you don't play well all this be this becomes antics if you don't play. Well, yeah, I'll get, you know, say like if you played well, it's fun. It's light. It's you know, we love juju. You don't play. Well, it's annoying antics. He needs to grow up and give folks don't football. It can flip. It can flip. He just got to keep bawling out. And if he has a bad game all he has to do is pose the the hit on volunteers perfect on social media, and everyone will love him live. Probably right. He knows how to play that game. Okay. So curious another pictures he could he he could post is the one with the two with the two toes down the TV touchdown to it Oakland with air. Tony O'Brien the back. His aren't with his arms up. Like, oh, well, why don't you throw me the ball? Well because. Yeah. To-to juju toll town. I'm not doing any to- tabs now to taps over in Oakland. He they can have him get. Actor, but he's funny story I gave away all my Antonio Brown jerseys, m my Martavis Martavis Bryant jersey, and I gave them all to my barber who's the Oakland raider fan? I gave them all the jersey. So I no longer have any Tonio Brown memorabilia in my house. I'm Clinton, I'm Clinton. Yeah. I never had any. Obviously, I'm cleansed. You you get that. Right. 'cause I always call him. Turn. I give you saying. No, no Tomlin said that was tablet Tomlin you that. That. A different type of cleansing. Or just see that was might have been triple on time. What do you use? That description of the Steelers is being cleansed after AB. Cleansing a different type of cleansing. Rubella switch high fiber diet. So anyways. So that's. It's juju being juju. And as good to see I'm glad he's a Steeler because I think that's for me. When you think about how you want Steelers to act that's kind of what you want. But anyways, so still, hey arm Spencer hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan nanny, I'm Jason Kirk. And we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast. It says in the script onto riff on what that means. And basically what I mean is all sport every Tuesday. We talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken. Subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. Let's talk about some other stuff here. I run an people listening to this show might not check. Chinese soaker dot com all the time. But every Friday night, we do the Friday night Steeler six pack, and it's essentially where I just think of six questions to ask the readers of the website rears, the website will go on they'll comment their answers. It just creates discussion people go off on tangents. Sometimes we'll have forty fifty comments that are based off of one specific answer. It really is just an it's an open thread exactly what is supposed to be and lands. You decided that you wanted to have us answer those questions on the show tonight. And you have those written down, right? Yes. I do. But I'm gonna go in reverse order. Sure. Whatever to mix it up. First question and number six on the webpage over or under on Chris Boswell missed field goals in twenty nineteen. Four over under on Chris Boswell, miss points. After in two thousand nineteen three which are thoughts on that. Jeff. Well, I'm the one that's at the lines. Obviously. I'm going to say I'm gonna say under on both. I think that he gets. I think he gets right. I think he wins the job for a lot of different reasons. This year, contractual reasons are big one. But I think that he I think he kinda rights ships. I'm gonna say under on both. I do think he misses a couple of field goals particularly longer ones. I don't think he has the issues with the short range field goals as he did last year in the extra points. I hope he's perfect, but you can always kind of Chuck one which is still considered under. What do you think I agree with you? But I am I think under on both because I don't think he'll get an opportunity to get the four or three. So he better be under because he he approaches either one of those numbers, I don't think he'll be place for the Steelers. So it will be unemployed is what he'll be who'll be unemployed. So I'm going to say under okay with the sake of his employment number five. If you had picked one who would you pick Kevin green or Greg avoid, Lloyd. I'm not paid for my demeanor. It's it's tough because green didn't play as long for the Steelers Craig boy did on they both finished their careers with other teams people forget a great finish with Carolina. I believe, but when I was a kid I had a number ninety five jersey, and Greg Lloyd was is a bad mother out there man, and he tried. He I loved how he played angry Joey porter played angry to Jason worlds did not play angry. I don't think. Now, here's another name. I don't think Jason guild in play angry. I laid players that play angry that when they're out there. They're not playing dirty. They're playing angry. They're playing like I'm trying to punish you every time you touch the football in. That's what I also felt the great win was more overall. A better overall player he was more athletic than Kevin greenie. Kevin Greene was a pass rushing specialist. Let's just call us bay disobeyed. Great would could do more. I'll take grade. What about you? I'm gonna take Kevin Greene. I'm gonna take two thirty five and a half sacks to twenty two and a half sacks when they play together. But we had to do more stuff. He dropped into coverage. Wasn't this is the three fourteen Don Capers defensive coordinator says not like he was always rushing the passer, keep data mind. Yeah. I gotta go with the hall of Famer to men overall. Better overall credentials hundred sixty sacks to fifty four and a half. Kevin green energy, though, you've provided that a production him screaming off to edge. They were a perfect combination. But if I had to pick one because Saks are so valuable have to go with the guy with more sacks. I'm gonna go with Kevin Greene a agree or disagree that defense of the ninety four ninety five especially those two years easy. My opinion one of the most underrated defenses in Steelers history because they never want to SuperBowl agree or disagree. I would agree. I would agree. But I'm gonna tell you one. That's even more underrated than that. It's the team that won six Super Bowl that defense in two thousand one thousand eight that. People talk about that defense all the time. It's the steel curtain and indicators early two thousands defense never here. Never here on it. Maybe maybe maybe I'm into wrong chat rooms or chat rooms. I never hear about that defense. And my thought has always been I don't hear about that defense because it is second half had they taking care of business in the second half in steamrolled Arizona as it looked like they were going to do did. I think that defense would be spoken in the same rarified air that ravens defense of around the same time. That defense was incredible. It's eight if it weren't for the defense, they wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl. Anyways. Anything about the time. It was time the offense picked up the defense. And so yet if whole season you have a bad half yet sucks in the Super Bowl. But you still won the SuperBowl. Your defense had the biggest M I opinion. The biggest game changing play in Super Bowl history. With James hers is interception. Run back for a touchdown at the end of the half yet again prompts. I think that gets a lot of credit to me it's rained the steel curtain of the seventies. Then you go to the two thousand defense, right f. For because he had Troy Harrison porter Woodley, a you could go to the defensive lineman Aaron Smith inside with James Ferrier, Larry Foote, they get a lot of credit in my opinion. Ryan clark. I disagree. I think they get a lot of credit inside the Steeler universe. But I think outside of that when you think of fans outside of the Steelers think of great defenses that don't think that defense comes up. I mean, the curtain defense is do. But that defense is a defense that I think should be thought about the same way that Baltimore Ravens defense. I think it was every bit as good, absolutely. That was there's the teams that they went years without giving up one hundred dollars on the ground, just tremendous. So with that defense, Jeff, I mean, I remember watching the Dallas game when the shave towns and picked off Tony Romo to Ciller. Eastward this touchdown pick off. He didn't me today. And I'm just watching the game. And I had an under nine belief that that defense would make a play. I'm just. Watching a game. I'm like they're down any the plight. They'll make a play that defense. We'll make a play. Bam. He gets the interceptions. Boom. Touchdown. I'm like, that's that's half filled about that defense that whenever it needed a plan to change the game. It could go out and get it. That was awesome thief, and let me jump through. Can't forget about that game. He Miller's big touchdown pass touchdown reception where Ben's scrambled all over the field and found him in the corner of the ends. And the actually got them back. Anyways. I. You had to bring up number seven 'cause you have seven now I eighty three and you'd number eight he. Anyway, I'm going to skip this one question. We beat the draft. Jeff. So I'm not gonna ask I'm not gonna ask that question. Okay. Let me go to number the next one. What are your record predictions for the AFC north in twenty nineteen? Okay. I had the Steelers at thirteen at three. So they would be I I have the Cleveland Browns at ten and six second. I have the Baltimore Ravens at nine and seven third, and I have the Cincinnati Bengals at six and ten fourth. I have knee Brown's baking the playoffs it'd wildcard team. And obviously the Steelers vying for a first round by in the AFC playoff picture. That's my scenario, which yours I had the Steelers believe eleven and five on the pod. I got the Browns and nine and seven ravens at nine and seven, and I'm with the Bengals at foreign twelve. I think that'll set up for the Steelers being the three seed, and I think the AFC north will only get one playoff Representative. Okay. It's going to be interesting. The wildcard teams they kinda bounced around every year. So it will be pretty interesting. It's gonna be interesting out in the west with Kansas City, 'cause I'm assuming that tyreek hill is going to get suspended. So it's gonna be interesting what Kansas City looks like because the charges are loaded. Kansas City is loaded. So I mean, if it looks anything like last year, you may have to teams coming out the west the east is trash is only the patriots. I mean, east straight trash. He's got a little bit better e-. That's put it this way. The patriots are going to have to account for lady on bell. When they play the jets. You know, I mean, that's I understand. He's just one guy. But Sam darnold could be better. They did get you know, CJ Moseley. They got a lot of tea. They got some talent. I'm not saying that it's going to be wins. It is going to be losses for the patriots. But I do think that it's going to be more difficult than it has been. You know, what's impressive about PF? You're so optimistic that you could probably still sell a Pinto today. Yes. You would say it's vintage it has great injured. Injured eight drac, it is retro retro. It gets really bad gas mileage, but you know, just be are that you would take out just go to, you know, just a illegal car. You drive around towns, reliable guy. Great interior. The sound quality is perfect at the pop. My ways off told me I could be a salesperson. Absolutely, my Carling, you just sold the jets being relevant, and if you could sell that. And then in hold on. I did not say relevant. I said that unlike in the past years, the patriots aren't going to be a cakewalk over the jets because they actually have some playmakers now people he doesn't believe that. But he could sell it to you. And that's the key to a great sales. Everybody in the world know that you can pretty much chock the patriots up for twelve thirteen wins. They're gonna would AFC north by like we fifteen. We know how this works rinse ripping patriots win the east I made. Hey. I know they're gonna win east. I'm just saying might be as easy as the past. Let's get to the biggest question skip. This other question to let's get to the biggest question, and you did a Steelers burning question podcast on it. And that question is which player from twenty seventeen NFL draft will have the best twenty nineteen T J watt, juju Smith Schuster or James, Connor. That's a good question. I think it's a tough question to. When you think about it is tough any people obviously had that immediate knee-jerk reaction. And that reaction is always bang TJ. What that is how they thing. But when you think about the logistics of the defense and offense concern to the players are offense players. You'll get James Connor. And is are they gonna go running back by committee now with any snow Jalen Samuels to try to save him? Is that he doesn't see the balls as much that could hurt his production. You look at juju Smith Schuster, and now that intern near Browns not there is is he gonna put up the same kind of numbers with being the focal point for defenses attention in teaching watts. Not going to surprise anyone coming off double digits access, even get shit more. They're going to be able to shave their protection his way a lot of times. These are all questions to be answered I answered mine on the pipe cast. Why want to know what you think? I'm sorry. I'm probably going to go the easy route and say TJ. Pay because you obviously didn't listen because you're not a team player. I picked. I picked I picked TJ what as well. Because I think he plays. He's gonna be on the field the most and he's going to have an opportunity mega play every single time. The defense is on the field. I think for all the other reasons that you said I mean James Carter had a fantastic season last year. I mean, the thing that pops out when you look at his numbers is a four and a half yards per carry. But you look at the twelve touchdowns. I mean, it's kind of I mean, that's that's a fabulous year. Ju ju I mean, you just don't know where the passing game is going to be he's going to be the number one wide receiver. He will see double team. So I think some of his production will minimize I think I've been reading a bunch of articles about they're finally going to do running back by committee with the rookie Samuels in Connor because they got three young backs and are not going to try to run the wheels off. I mean, you know, Jud is gonna get a ton of touches because I mean help in rothlisburger through at six hundred seventy five times last year. I can't imagine that number going out a ton. So jujubes going to get his targets, but TJ is going to be on the field more. He's gonna play more snaps. He's going to impact the game more. So I I would go with TJ WADA's. Well, and I think of those players T J watt is the best. Player of those guys. I mean with thirteen sacks TJ is the best of the three. So I think it is TJ watt. But there's a case for those other guys that that people could make I think about this. That's one draft class. People hate Kevin Colbert all the time when a draft class three. I'm Todd Vander the host of prime time a new show from box dot com. This season. We're tackling the American presidency on TV stories that capture the way television effects and reflects, politics and culture. We'll take a look at fictional presidents who've changed the way we think about the real Oval Office. That isn't gentlemen, the president of the United States the morning everyone. Please take your seats. And how real presidents US TV to further their own goals. What you come here to plug. Have you heard of the portable? Correct. 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He had fourteen hundred last year. No, he say over thousand false whoever thousand but he won't have over twelve hundred true or false last one James Caan will play in sixteen games next year. False absolutely false. Okay. All right. He has yet to do that. He'll get knit because they have a couple of young backs that we think are going to be pretty good. I think when he gets knit the Steelers will be would be pretty precautious with him. Yeah. I agree. I can't say this. I think that. I'm gonna say. I think there's a part of me down. And it's it's the Homer in meat. It's really very loud. This kind is just kind of quiet. This Homer viewing. I get in my belly sometimes. And it's there I think is going to have a great year, everyone talks about how I think anything is numbers are gonna fall. And I said it before on shows. I think he's a good year. I think I think he's gonna have over twelve hundred dollars next year. So I think. You sure as well. I think I think the James Connor is going to be stay healthy. I think that if anything there's offseason he's realized that, you know, you gotta play a certain way, you know. You gotta stay healthy yet. It'd be out on the on the field. You can't make to what is it. You can't make the club from the tub. They say yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You can't make the club from the Jeff. I mean, don't get to personal IBS. Poke fun, and I don't want to poke fun at anyone that suffers from that. Now, Eddie or screwing that now that this on how we roll here at the super com, absolutely. Okay. Look we have a few minutes left before we call. It a shell. And something we did on the Steelers preview that I do all the time on my Steelers burning question show is. We wanna take some questions from us. If you're gonna live chat right now on YouTube. If you didn't know we have jamming can find us on YouTube by searching BTS's Steelers radio. Go ahead and ask your question. 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He's often lands and Atlanta and we've been doing this for what five seasons something like that. Jeff's not mean at all. I think I'm a pretty nice guy. Like, Jeff just not meet at all like, Jeff laughs and smiles more than any person. I know. Retail. I don't agree. Yeah. Vodka says that I he's asking about the setup that obviously it looks like I'm gonna different locale. I am in a different locale. That's because I am back in my hometown of wheeling West Virginia wheeling west by God Virginia. And so I came back home celebrate mother's day with my mother be heading back to. So on location Isaac says, can we give the money? Can we give them money input into Atlanta's internet connection? Sure. I'll I'll take it shoot. It this way. All right. We do have a live super chat question shield, a ninety one. Thank you. He. Giroud off today. The second quarterback position. Would you choose do? I really have to answer this. I don't want to laugh at the question. We, you know, you they know my answer you answer it. Oh, it's gotta be dubs. It's gotta be Dobbs are ways, it's is Saturday night. Are you drunk already? No didn't Dobbs. Make the one throw in Baltimore that's worth two seconds. During about one throw. Hey, you were at the ranger you were at the raiders game when he played for a quarter and didn't Jack squat. But what the end at one throw. Give me a break. Hey, he's he's made more throws than any rookie is made tackles that we're already assuming that are repeat are going to be I drink off rose. So that one throw is enough for him to be the set constrain I as a card carrying charter member of the base and Rudolf fan club. I really cut off all ties with you outside of this show because he just said Joshua Dobbs. So there you go Mason Rudolph is the number two quarterback on this team here. All right. People are calling. So drinker, he gave his de gave some money donate. 'cause I love Steeler talk. Thank you very much easier. Very loyal listener. He's always in the live chat. We appreciate that very much. Hey, vodka drinker. Do you like Tito's which your favorite vodka, by the way, vodka drinker? When he answers that I will certainly share that with the snowman another live chat other super chat. He says how many draft picks are not signed as of the recording of this episode only to that would be first round pick Devon Bush and first second third round pick Justin lane, all other all seven other draft picks have all signed their initial contracts. So that should be done. We're Murray's collar Murray side early late last week. So they'll only at you. The all start rolling typically the I two I hit signs, and then they all start coming down on what they God. You wanna see what kind of signing bonus and stuff like that? So there you go. Let's see here that catch up here. Ron chests agrees with me, he says that. Dob sucks that I'm completely right? Let's hear vodka drinker. Answers your question. He says loose loose anchor. Nissan com. Not sure if I'm pronouncing that correctly, it's a polish potato vodka. There you go you tried that then you partake in. No, he's a connoisseur. Obviously, I'm Tito's. Sure. There you go. I'm I'm neither. So let's go with the next question is tight end are the Steelers biggest need Vance. Mcdonald's injury prone and other options aren't great. Would you say that the tight end position is the biggest need for the Steelers on the offers of side of football. Yes, I would agree which would Trump that if you're including the defensive side. On defense aside of football. Would I say depth the defensive line? They spends on the rookie 'cause they need to bring back Tyson. I'll Awalu they lead LT Walton walk out, although I don't think he signed yet. And let's see if is a above from Alabama can play. Okay. So. Here we go. He what do you think about the new kicker? They brought in a under after free agent kicker. I I don't know thing about him. I think he made seventy percent of his kicks at UCF. I saw that on Twitter the other day. I don't know until I see him actually kicking football which won't be until the preseason. I have no clue who will have more receptions is here. This is a good question who have more receptions this year, this is from double h Jalen Samuel's or James Washington. I'm gonna go with Jalen Samuels, disagree Jane's Wadi James Washington's gonna have good year. But I could see Jalen team was being up there. I think he's going to be used a lot of the receiving. Yeah. That's why I think so I think he's going to be featured heavily at third-down packages and get an opportunity to catch a lot of balls. So, you know, running backs get catches involves too. I think James wash the oil. Maybe if they use them different. I mean, he was kind of the X receiver lot of deep routes deep routes stuff like that. So you don't get a lot of you. Don't get a lot of opportunities to run deep routes. So I'm going with Samuel was just on sheer volume in the amount of times. I think he'll be on the field on third down. All right. And let me. Let me add one thing though, but yards per catch. I think absolutely be you. Oh. And a little finished with this one. How many touchdowns will Vance McDonald have in two thousand nineteen. Does anybody in the live chat? No hominy hat last year. I'm guest like six, I don't think. I don't think I don't think can't six last year. I'm gonna go with seven I like seventy I don't think he had six last year. I can I can remember the touchdown against Jacksonville in the back of the end zone. The stiff arm her around the world against Tampa Bay. I can't think of any others. I'm a go. Oh, he had a shovel pass. I think he had a shovel pass early in the season. He might have had four or five. No one's chiming in. What does Dave's goofy? What the hell's he doing? He should know. I'm gonna go with Stephan. Okay. Eating seven. I'll say six I was gonna say six. Okay. So I think that he had four someone just trying to four now. They're trying to okay four touchdown. So what did I said seven? And if I know he funding we have four I would have said six to eight that was my number. I think Donald Donald Nolan put it best in his agreed to end the show. He said screw the patriots. So. Hey, happy buffet. I'd say exactly so look I say is at the end of every show, we really appreciate all the people. The almost a hundred people that are in the live tied right now watching the show on a Saturday night and are part of this little community. We have on YouTube. Remember, if you don't have us connected with your YouTube, go to YouTube, search BTS's radio subscribe, like share it with your sealer friends, send it to him send the links good goodwill audio platforms because like lances show. Yeah. I said it is there. It's not on YouTube yet yet yet my goal is by the season they'll be on there. But until then it's just on the audio platform. So go anywhere. 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Tales From 2  AM: The responsibility of Steelers fans to be superstitious

Behind the Steel Curtain

54:05 min | 2 months ago

Tales From 2 AM: The responsibility of Steelers fans to be superstitious

"Pittsburgh steeler fans. Hey how are you doing? It is me. It's me that be bad run Anthony Davis from behind the steel curtain I am. Your podcast producer and I am so glad to be with you once again, this morning as we're recording this, this is Sunday morning, August second two, thousand twenty, and I'm so glad like I said to be a part of your world I know it's early. It's very early for you to see this crazy face and if you're streaming us on any podcasting platform, then guess what you're lucky. You don't have to look at this guy. I'm normally not wearing a hat you see a lot of. Lot of my colleagues here in behind the steel curtain wearing hats all the time I'm wearing one today. I'm just feeling of rocking my steeler hat still thinking shows off one of my best features might hair. The only genetic lottery I ever GonNa win is my hair as like close in on fifty years of age. I feel that's my best feature, but for today. I'm rocking the LID and I'm rocking the HYPO- Psych Lloyd's feeling good feeling. Good. Be a part of the state with you and right now I know you are spending a Sunday morning with me or if it's your Monday commute in, you're listening to me between your speakers. Then that means that you are part of our BBC family in of course, I. Thank you so much. So I WANNA talk about the behind still curtain family podcasts as. We are going to make some changes. And as we make some changes. What we're going to do is just do it for the better. Of Behind Steel Curtain and we're so excited for you to be. Still. As you see this show is called tales from two am and I'm GonNa address that in a moment, some of you might be scared. And I'M GONNA. Get to that in a moment as well. But as I look at the live chat. First and foremost. You know that we can't do the show without you and I'm feeling very international right now because. New Will. Spell this White Nuno Endo Pronounce Rate Nuno Endo It's twelve thirty PM in Scotland. We've got Scotland this morning our good friend Mark Davidson from Osculation Australia. It's nine pm there and she and Luka Bird Dino. Seven thirty here in Singapore and J town. PA my hometown. NAP nineteen sixty three says good morning bad we've got Linfen would twelve thirty in the UK. I feel like I'm your international coffee remember the international flavors of coffee that they had back in the seventies and eighties on TV and I, like urged my parents to go by the international coffees because I thought we would be. So I was right. It is Nuno Endo the day was family was not really sophisticated, but in our own right I guess we were so lots of changes on the family of PODCASTS. So. As you know. That Jeff Hartmann had left the podcast platform in behind the curtain the blog site back on announced back in very late May animated official, June. I was Dave Scofield's first day as the editor. Of Violence. So curtain my first day is the podcast. Producer. And Jeff has been gone for two months. Well, that is no longer because Jeff is back as of August first. So we are so glad to have him back. This is something that was made official on Friday morning so. You've got a bill. It's been a wind in things change in the podcasting world, the social media world on a dime sometimes, and when this short op we immediately went to work. To see how we can give all of you. Great content because this a steeler fan. Sports fans in general, but the steeler fan you crave. You. Crave News on the steelers. What we WANNA do we WANNA be your one stop shop. We won't be breaking news for you in that's what with everybody we have here. That's what we have provided. But we can do it a lot better. Sometimes Less is more. But a lot of times more is more. If. You can have quantity. In keep it. With a great brand of quality, then you're doing something. So we had a summit meeting great summit meeting of Ese yesterday on Jeff's porch, and it was Dave Scofield myself and Jeff. So. What we did was we got together and said, how are we going to do this? Should we continue to do what we're doing and just? Make It more quality is that we could do that. And then somebody said. Let's double our efforts. We thought about it for we could double our efforts. But then We decided collectively. We're not babbler efforts. That's just not gonNA work. We're GONNA triple our efforts, and that's exactly what we're doing. So when you have an opportunity in any given week on behind the steel curtain. To go to any podcasting platform any streaming option in find our family of networks you could get about seventy eight shows in a week. What we're going to do now is we're going to offer twenty plus shows in every week. And that's exactly what we're going to do. So, with that being said, which was also almost the name of this show this show because that is my catchphrase dame scofield's you should call it with that being said because you say that all the time. And with that being said, that's what we're GONNA do. But how are we going to do that? So a lot of people when you talk about change your worry you're like, what are we going to do i? Mean are you GonNa Change everything that we love I see right now a windows is saying wait a second. Your keep Michael Beck. Please Lot people love Michael Beck gone I'm just kidding. I'm a huge fan of Michael Beck Michael. Beck is going to have an even bigger role on the podcasting platform and I'm going to get to that in a moment as well. So. As, we're making these changes. We want to continue giving you the shows that you know and you enjoy. We're going to try to up the ante on those shows were also going to give you some other options. We're going to add a morning show platform. Now we typically do a morning show on Sunday morning in like I'm doing now I'm going to be your morning man on Sunday morning I might be reverend bad where you can tell your sentence to after your two am story that you made the two nights before that could be a possibility. But this is how we're GONNA do the morning show I'm going to start off with some baby steps here at explain what we're doing what? We're going to start off with maybe a half an hour show half an hour tops for your commute to work or when you're waking up whatever you're doing. Give you something to talk steelers about maybe we cover anything that happened overnight, but it's for that morning drive. So you're GonNa have your very own morning show on Monday Wednesdays Fridays, it's going to be Jeff Hartmann Swing your speakers, and this is going to be on the podcast platform. Only this is going to be streaming only it's not to be on youtube you don't WanNa. Eat Faces in the morning. I mean, they're not an I know this is fresh and Shiny I get it plus for some of you that think, wow, that -freshing shiny look bad that non fresh and shiny look is pretty darned sexy than you're gonNA wreck. If you're looking to me on youtube and drive I, mean I might be a distraction so I don't want that on my conscience. We're going to be streaming shows in the morning in those shows are going to be I shows that you'll hear. So on Monday Wednesday and Friday. To quote the steelers defense starting way back with Joey Porter James Harrison did it Ryan Shazier T. J. Watt leads the charge now. WHO RALLIED WE RIDE? Who Ride we ride? Who Ride we ride? Let's ride on three one, two three. Let's ride. So you're going to get Jeff Hartmann and less ride on Mondays. And Fridays it should be a lot of fun on Tuesdays get Tony in myself with steelers retro show we just doing the steelers retro show it's not steelers news it's steelers news if you're in Nineteen eighty-four if you hop in that black and gold delorean, you're going to be talking about David Little and Bryan Hinkle and Jack Lambert in the drafting Lynn Swann and how the team drafted another wide receiver in seventy four and John Stallworth you're GonNa talk about the two, thousand, five, and Nick. Harper. Getting stabbed by his wife and Ben Rothlisberger Paklin after. Drone Bettas fumbled. We're GONNA be talking about stuff like that. A little step back in time we'll be doing that we started doing that about a month ago on Mondays after the Cuban I, we're gonNA continue to do that on Thursdays in the morning. You'RE GONNA get your geek on Dave Scofield, and the stack EEK will be moving to Thursday mornings and that will be a that will be a podcast exclusive as well. You will be able to stream all of those shows. So that's just five shows how you going to get twenty plus. Or here's the deal. We're doing shows that we were going to bring back the shows that you love on Mondays I hope you love him the Qa in season it's going to be the steeler hangover. Where we recap the game from the night before and Try to get those knee jerk reactions in sometimes come to grips with the loss or just hopefully. More celebrating a win. So Tony I will continue to do that show. Where it's GonNa be the QNA now until we start the season so you're gonNA have that show. Then what you're going to do, we're going to split that show up the next morning to give you opportunities while you're streaming to have two separate shows from that to half hour shows from that long show on Youtube we have found that on Youtube. People want to be a part of it like you are in the live chat people want to be there. They wanted to go on longer when you're commuting when you're screaming. If you're watch doing this while you're showering I, listen I listen to. On eight when showering when I'm mowing the lawn our I'll put something I've how many times on Saturdays if I listened to. Tony while I'm a power-washing or mowing the lawn honors that. So that's some of the things that you can do with it. So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Be Screaming to shows Two more shows in the mornings after from the night before as we always do but give you an opportunity to stream and listen to those shows as well. So on Tuesdays you'll be like, wait a second boys. You can't take away my stat Geek and yet we are not taking what you're. Sacchi. What we are giving you something a little bit better. You're getting your staticky Thursday mornings, but you're getting a double dose go in everybody needs some SCO in their life rich in Dave scofield brothers go. They're gonNA have the Stober Bro show in it's. It's a full monty of steeler fun. It's a whatever they want to talk about. So instead of just. Stats. Clock about steelers and just keep it to stats. So that's GonNa be fun. Now, Wednesdays Wednesdays is where you're used to for the last five, six years. The Standard is the standard. Now, we have retired the show. The Standard is the standard as you know, Lance Williams has moved on from behind the curtain white amicably and we do Miss Lance and we are going to miss landside even more and I wish lance the very best and I hope to be Your share to Mike. Excuse me a microphone with him Sunday again and I even on the BT. Tse. Family of networks of have lance back as a guest as well But so we wanted to go ahead and since lance was so synonymous with that show any I said it we wanted to retire those names because. You. Know that is something that that we felt belonged to him. As. The lake with a legacy that. He left here. So we are going to bring Michael Back. So Nintendo, Michael Beck. is going to have his own show. It's going to be called. In. Forgive me for singing this early morning. Yes the take off of a CDC's back on back in black. It's Beck on and black like I could get used to say that I. mean if I say that five times in trouble. In actually I'm not sure who on the Friday show who suggested that in the live chat somebody did in whoever did I have to go back and look but one of our listeners and viewers came up with an idea and so we took it and we thank you for that. So it's beckoned black. Now joining Michael Beck and Beck and black will be Jeffrey Benedict who has guested on the show. Very prevalent on our website Jeff Benedict will be joining him and beckon black in the regular season. That show will be called something different. We're taking another cool song. This we're going Green Green Day in gotTA. Know Your Anna me. No Iran, may got know your enemies of something. So it's GonNa be know your enemy I used to do article called know your enemy where I tried to. Go over the upcoming opponent what we're GONNA do is we're GonNa have Geoffrey breakdown that opponent along with Michael or if we can get somebody and we espy nation has sites for every steeler team we'd love to have somebody from big blue nation on the giants we'd love to have somebody from Baltimore beatdown since he jungle the week of that show. That's something we'd like to do and have on the show and talk about thirteen at little more in like. Sometimes, Jeff gave myself. We go on other shows within the SP network family and we talk about steelers as well. So on Thursday nights, it's GonNa be the steelers preview for new flagship show it's something you know in love we welcome back Jeff Hartman to that show along with Dave Scofield and myself it's going to be the same shenanigans that you really enjoyed. So the triumphant tree back together. On. Fridays. It's Michael Beck again, and one thing that the Michael Beck did before. He, came here in something he brought to Our platform was an audio show called the live Mike was to call it the open mic. It's called live Mike and as you if you don't remember this and go back and look in our BPS's streaming platforms one of his first shows with an interview at Chase Klay poll after he was drafted Michael Got Chase Klay Pole, and as you know, Michael has had some great interviews here he has gotten less Chris warmly. ANZAC BANNER IN TWO CZAR SKIPPER A. Excuse me and Jordan Dangerfield as well. So. Really Great. We're going to have that show on Saturday steelers Brench Tony you've gotTa have your Bacon and eggs in your eggs benedict and all that good stuff with Tony Oh quick one most popular shows because everybody loves Tony. So that's the lineup. There's GonNa be a lot to choose from I. Hope that's a great menu for you. And I hope he continued support us our family and steeler nation and what are your? Less, now give us ideas for shows to we would be glad to hear those. This is the new fall season but hey. Always looking to fill this cranium with more ideas. So with that being said. It's time to get into tales. From Two am. The US election doesn't happen to remember borrow the island of explained their electorates happening right now the later party is always saying you get things later but I say, let's get them. Now you know what happened with you get everything now. You end up with anything later, join US for important debates. I think that now is moving too fast slightly less important debates. I happen to be two inches tall. That's a lie and debates that are going on in the US to like what to do about the pool college this is corrupted. Count, everyone the same we should this changes come back. The island of explained wherever you find the today explain podcast. So when you're talking about two, am you gotTa have the energy drink right afterwards because you had a wild night. The reason. This show is called tales from two A. M. Because a lot of you know me as bad Brian Anthony Davis. Love. You know me as after November twelfth of two, thousand, nineteen as two am and you know. It's a nickname that I embrace and I love. In who was Mr Two am well, it was all born on the steeler preview and honest dealer preview it was the end of the show. We were just coming off. Of the, steelers. Thrilling way of Los Angeles Rams. And it was ugly win and I wanted to express in my unearth sway in all of my ways Royal Unorthodox I think outside the Bun. I can't even think outside the box because I like the Taco bell commercial to think outside the by. So what I was doing here, I just WanNa do explain to these guys that we've got to understand what the ID the identity of the two thousand nineteen Pittsburgh steelers time watts. And I was. As a lot of you know that I am very proud to be a dedicated family man that includes being. A scout leader for BSA. The boy scouts and I work with girls as well. So. It's something that I'm very proud of helped shape. The Youth of America. I wasn't one when I was. A young lad growing up in Johnstown Pennsylvania I wasn't a scout. Wish. It was a really wish I was. But I had just gotten back from a meeting Tuesday night show because they were getting ready to play that infamous we didn't know it was gonna be infamous that infamous Thursday night game in Cleveland and I was wearing my scout uniform. And I realized the shirt on underneath that I realized what I was going to say next was going to. was something that I didn't want to associated with wearing a uniform very proud of. So I started it and I started to take off my shirt because the shirt on everyone's like, oh, no pads stripping what's going on? Davis, turned three. Free different shades of Red Jeff's just shaking his head you gotta understand Jeff and Dave or like. Cartoon characters for me like you know the reason I say cartoon characters is because one's the angel on my shoulder the others the devil on my shoulder looking animal house to I'm not going to quote animal house who had told them to do. But just usually the Guy Jeff's usually the devil on my shoulder. Laugh at me beyond Dave's like please don't do that. He's the angel on my shoulder. So those guys did not know where I'm going with us and I wanted to explain. And I wanted to say your back in college like in the nineties Wayne you were at the bar. And it was getting late your buddies hooked up with somebody else. In your there and it's two am now. Feeling. Sorry for yourself. You know that you're just going to go back to the House get the Get that old via dust off the V or vhs copy of a blue velvet and put it in. In just wallow in your sorrow in saying you know that I am really not doing this story justice because it was funnier when it was off the cuff those with other people. In they were laughing and encouraging me on but. Then you you look over and there is a woman or I mean this could be the other way round too I mean it could be somebody else. and. You luck in. He's not very attractive. She's. Not just very attractive. I mean she's Nothing that data. That, you're going to go ahead and. Say Right about in your Christmas card, you're not brag about it to your friends but she invites you back. To her place or what have you the backseat of a car? In the bushes whatever and. So. And you. You just say heck with it. I I need this I'm going to do what I do and. And the reason I said that as you're not proud of it, those things happen all of our lives we do stuff. It's I joke that it's maintenance for your man soup or whatever for your woman suit but what it is, it's you know there's certain. There's certain things that we all need not. For Body before our mind as well and just to make feel hole in this lonely scary world sometimes. And So the reason, I brought up that entire scenario. was because the steelers are your version, your two thousand nineteen version of a to A and booty call. In I joked, you're not proud of it. You don't Brag about it. You just take it and that's why I said. In they were laughing and they actually Davis crying at that point jeff was speechless on that doesn't happen. Very often, either and AS Roma says Azra. One of my great friends with show cheese ten after five shots of Tequila. Three pitchers of beer. Yeah. Yes. She really is and he I mean if you're a woman he or if you're dude and you WanNa he short what whatever it is you know that's that's what happens. And that's kind of what the steelers workers the steelers were winning ugly at that time. And you just took it. You just accepted the fact that this was. Going to be your two am. So basically, I have become synonymous with being Mr Two. Am that's that's my new nickname and the Mr to 'em thing has become. The fact I mean this whole new persona that everybody thinks I am this wild man. Now I'm not gonNA. Lie. I've had some. Trips. To Vegas. that. Those trips didn't stay in Vegas and I promised just tons. You hear some of them on the show, but this is not going to be a debauchery show either this isn't going to be me talking about. Ladies of the evenings in hookups in oak crazy stuff like that. Not Going I. We'll talk about the time I almost got married in Vegas complete stranger from Canada. It was not one of Michael becks relatives I promise you that. But. I will tell funny stories. But tell steeler tails on the show is what we're. GonNa do. But am I Mr Two m? Not Really. Not Really I'm a family guy, but I embrace. That and I believe that every person in this world should have that wild side that they remember or have that wild friend that they could tell stories about and you know this I mentioned that sometimes this could be saddened crazy world and in a lonely world and it's the relationships that we put together with our friends and family in those wild times are okay. Hey, if you're doing it in. In a in a good way. You know a lot of people think that I'm this major drinker a lot of people. After that those. After some of those quotes in some way ranch on these shows, a lot of people thought I was a huge coke coke feed. Billy Coke Free Miami's. Comes in red and white can. Infect I barely drink mount against it. I just don't I mean I'm just a naturally. Wild booed sometimes and I like to have fun I. Know The time and place I know when I can turn it into. When when it needs to be family fun and I know when it's time to be wild and crazy, not really wild and crazy now but. Hey you we can. We can tell these stories and have lots of fun. That's what we do and everybody worries. That is like man I. Hope Your Wife's not listening to the stuff. My wife knows all my stories now I assure you she was never really of those two am stories and there's some good ones. There's some good ones. And to quote Huey Lewis Sooner or later your GonNa know that some of my lives are true. Well. Most. All of these lies are true and I'm not gonNa tell you stories that aren't. But sometimes I feel like I've I've had a forrest gump type existence I've had a chance to experience a lot of things. And had a lot of fun. Most of the stuff. Even, though the crazy stories proud of. So that's what two am tales are but to m tales or more tales about being Pittsburgh steeler fan, it's two am which is me telling you the tails and that's what I WANNA do here. That's what I'm GonNa do right now. In this is going to be a two am tale. That centers around of all things. Jerome Bettis. Nick. Harper's wife. In a seventy, five year old widow. We'll be back after this. And we're back. So what does jerome? Bettis Nick Harper's wife in seventy five year old widow have to do with my two am story in the Pittsburgh steelers I will tell you. So we go back in time to two thousand. Five two, thousand, five season but this more specifically. January fourteenth or visit it the fifty, th the. The fourteenth or fifteenth. Of, January is against the colts the Indianapolis Colts the forecast to Indianapolis Colts, which were I believe at one point thirteen and that season. Towards the end they started arresting guys Tonia Tony Dungy was out for a couple of games of the end tragically because. Of the loss of his son. But the colts were the team. They really were the prohibitive favorites to win everything, and we all know about everything that happened in that game where the Pittsburgh steelers had a win four straight in the regular season just to get that number six seed, we know about what happened in Cincinnati with Chemo and Carson and. cedrick Wilson Antwan randle El in what a great game that lost. Some We get to this game, the steelers particular fourteen nothing lead then all of a sudden. They get screwed royally with the Choi Paula Malo. Intersection that wasn't. And the incompletion that wasn't interception. and. So with that. We're getting closer. It looks like the steelers rapid in. There on the one yard line after a great defensive stand Joey. Porter in Hagen's Farrier, guys were all over Peyton manning and I had later asked I was in a car with run hanes driving him my dad was driving him. They wouldn't let me drive around Hanes. They were afraid I was going to kill a steeler. Because great driver but that's for another time too so. I asked Ron, Haines what did you guys know that that the colts didn't know you knew something going in that game and he said on defense, our whole strategy was to confuse Peyton manning by. Right. Before he snapped looks seconds before he snapped changed the defensive alignment and we plan for that Dick Lebeau is a genus absolute cheese. So that's what they did and you could tell Peyton Manning Hall of Famer Legend was confused in that aim they almost tackled him for a safety. Late in that game and it looked like they won hey, let's just is it. The Ball Jerome. He's GonNa. Take then we're going to Denver insane. Hey Pack your bags Denver he dumped the gun which you don't do. You don't celebrate until there's zero zero, zero, three, zero zero on the clock. That's the rule you don't do it. In. That's that's a Davis. Mantra and that's something that I actually taught my dad and now he lives by that to Usually my dad has taught me everything especially when it comes to the steelers but something I've come up with you don't celebrate until the Zeros on the clock. I, let him take credit for it at this mind so. Lots of stories on that too that we can talk about when we're talking about superstition but. You know the story, you know Jerome carrying the ball high you got cracked ball POPs out Nick Harper. Thank goodness. He had a domestic dispute with his wife the night before she stabs him in the leg which I'm sorry we I don't root for domestic disturbances please but you know that happened that could've slowed him down we don't know. who was twisting and turning just turn the right way mainly immaculate tackle vange atmos- it. It's a it was. A thrill ride of all throw rods were steeler fans. We will never forget that one guy had a heart attack when it happened in a bar and I remember drone beddis actually Ah, met up with him later on so. and. I'm laughing the. Chat it's not two am in the US I promise you Mark Davidson. Yes. Real. As of two. Am Now this is this is just Mr today I'm telling stories. So we we all know about that. I'm a very superstitious guy steeler fans have superstitions all sports fans have superstitious. You know that's what it is. You wear a jersey. You wear the same Jersey every single time. some of those fans do they don't care this giant mustard stain on it if you win you, keep wearing that Jersey until lose that's just what you do. You have the same rituals some people go and touch something on top of the TV before Penguins Games I've seen it. You didn't touch it right yesterday. Second Crazy. Good game. So you don't lot of people I mean they sit in the same spot spotlight, Sheldon Cooper. They you do whatever you do. And at that time, I was just dating Mrs Bad who became Mrs bad and she was living in a where I live now and I lived about an hour and fifteen minutes away in. So what I was doing since the beginning of the play offs. I will on Saturday night I would go and have dinner with her I would spend the evening in the night would drive back in the morning and I'd watch the game by myself. Same spot on my couch save inform Rando L. Jersey the entire way through the White Antwan randle El Eighty two. That's what I would do. And it's sit there in I had this role that everything had to be. The same because Lord knows the that coaching staff in fifty three men on the field. That have had years of training. They played this game all their lives. They can't win. Unless. My rituals Brian. Anthony Davis his rituals around on or they're going to lose more stories about that actually. So. I had. At the time. A neighbor she. A beautiful woman named Joanne. She was seventy five years old may she rest in peace? She did come to my wedding I love her family just really nice moments she lived across the hall, the apartment across the hall. and. I'm the kind of guy that I don't care who you are what you are. How old you are doesn't matter if you are a genuine. I love you. And I WANNA. Be around you and she was one of my favorite people I used to take. This woman to West Virginia University Games. And we would. Have, to park and we had season tickets back then and we had a walk forever even though I'm a Penn State Fan at heart I still follow pit I went to Pitt, but still follow pit in West, Virginia as well. So we would go there and all my friends I used to work at enterprise, rent a car, and they would always have tailgates and they would always laugh but they were like look you're comes it comes bad in Sugar Mama. 'CAUSE The strangest couple because it was me and a seventy, five year old woman and we're going to the game to get games together and having a good time and I wouldn't have changed for the world because I love hanging out with this woman. She loved football her late husband was alleged every coach in Maryland. In western Maryland who had just passed away earlier that year. Her family bunch of coaches. Play. They play they coached in western Maryland. Just legendary family her daughter was a professional. Cheerleader so You know. So she loved it. I had the setup in this little apartment all my steelers stuff there in her family. She was not a steelers fan. Actually she was the Oakland Raiders. Fan? But she rooted for the steelers because of me and but I remember a couple of weeks before Christmas. I was gone I was back in Johnston with my family and always had a key to my apartment and she said, Hey, one of the call you can i. I want to take the family over to see your many helmets in your steeler shrine. 'cause I had all that stuff I. It was the little try at the time. So. And I said, of course, your houses you don't even have to call me anytime. You want to go over there. You go over there and I trust you I mean she was just my buddy. So I M. I went over her maid. Angelique is I was making chilly at the time before every game. So I may chilly took over. Some Chili. and. She sit sit down on mcmil you know the role I have to watch his game alone. I'd love to watch the game with you but. It's gotta be superstition. You know I mean I've got a follow a goes I understand completely in. So. She got. The whole. Stopping of a Peyton manning with that defense, they stopped them there they're getting ready to lineup. To try to push it in like we just talked about with your own Beddis. Get this knock. Brian I'm like hey joey. Info. Hello just wanted to congratulate you like. Well, there's not Zeros on the clock, but yet feels pretty good and she just walks in and. I had this recliner in the corner in she sits down. In the soon as she sits down a soon as her but. Hit that that fake leather that plus other or whatever it was. bettas fumbles were. Up, Oh, no, no, no not at her but I yell at the TV Ben Makes Attack on among thing. than she, her face turns white because she was really written from dealers for me. Hurt face turns white. In she's like. Oh. My Gosh I shouldn't have done that should have I. I. Look at her and I said, Joanne. Love you. But you have got to leave my apartment now. Get Out. Please And I did it with lava I felt so bad. And she was like you're right I have to go and she leaves and then. They detect misses the field goal. I am elated. I'm thrilled my phone starts ringing I. Don't even answer my phone. Oh, my God what have I done? So. As happy as I am I, walk across the hall knocked on the door and she's come in Nice and I am so sorry I am so sorry I should never kicked you out of my apartment you have nothing to do with the steelers tumbling. And she's like Brian. I had no right to come in here. I. Know the roles that you don't celebrate until the Zeros on the Glock. I'm sorry I'm like, no, you don't. You never apologize to me again and we sat down and I we talked about the win in it was just something beautiful and I'll never forget it. That's the part of my superstition and I'd love to hear about your superstitions. A history teacher back at UCLA WHO said to us that there are times when you could feel the PFISTER history tightening around you false not about that. She was talking not long after nine eleven but this is another one of those moments is a hinge moment in the American democratic experiment. The entire globe is battered by the current virus. We're dealing with some of our oldest moons in this country on top of entirely new technologies and it is a crazy time I miss her client host of the show podcast and what we're trying to do right now is understand our time and try to find some the ideas that might help us chart away out of it. The best you months we've talked Thomas Coats about why the protests should meet him actually hopeful tomorrow through Kado about the ways in which economics profession has misunderstood the concept and this measure the concept of value to Elizabeth Warren about her plan to combat the coronavirus trust outfit about whether or not American societies become decadent. He's have all been great conversations and there are so many more I hope you'll join me every Monday Thursday to stay informed, and maybe you get a sense of is well subscribed show on apple podcast spotify or wherever you're listening to this right now. I have another fund superstition to. Back in two thousand. Two, thousand, one season I was going to a lot of steeler games I was living in West Virginia, and I was going over three hours to go to these Games and I had found these cammo pants. I'm not a Cammo guy but steeler cammo pants in the steelers store they were. Close to one hundred dollars. And I wanted to get these steeler cargo pants because they were black and gold cam out they were ridiculous. They were ugly. But I bought these payments. And I this is going to be my game tire. So it I was I had my Plaxico burress. Jersey at the time I had a I would wear these. These stupid pants. and. I bought them at the end of the AFC divisional game against the Baltimore Ravens and So after that game. I bought these pants was all proud of them. And a warm the next week they lost game Nothing to do with the pants but nothing of it. You know so two thousand, two season comes it was a pretty good season you know I mean you had. You had Tommy, maddox come on and that was just a fun season they went to the playoffs so I wore. Than the week to a game Tony Defeat talks about because he went to week against the raiders and the loose. And Lynn Swann was even ignored me in the tunnel wearing those pants. There's no one else in the tunnel and I walking through and. Actually, enough tunnel but on the ramp. Heinz. Field. It's rude to me and I'm upset but I I'll give him the benefit of the bow. You don't want to be bothered I was hello in just snub me. So I didn't vote for two years later when he was. Did I. Know I wasn't a Pennsylvania resident I couldn't vote for me either but I was mad at him but I'm over that. It's okay. So. Lost it. Lost the raiders that was to then I started hitting gains that they shouldn't have lost. They were winning big against the Atlanta Falcons they blew the lead they ended up tying. They blew to third and seventeen with Michael Vick they tied that game. then. My friends started talk about the pants. And like it's not has nothing to do with pants. Why would you think of that? My pants would have anything to do the fortunes. Of the Pittsburgh steelers and they're like you ego stop wearing those pants. So. The. The final Straw. Was I'm own five and I wear these pants. To the Houston Texans Game Houston Texans. And, this was December of that year. I believe it was December December seventh of that year if I'm not mistaken and they were of terrible team, they were an expansion team team. And The steelers lost that game twenty four to six did not give up a defensive touchdown I. Think they gave up to sixes and. A fumble return kick return. It was it was. They? outgained them and everything it was just a bad game. I go home and I get a phone call. And I knew who it was. and. I knew it was a few of them and they didn't identifying but I know I know my friends but all here is. To try to disguise their voices Davis. If you don't give up those pants. Don't surrender the pants were coming again. and. They're gonNA break into my house and still my pants my wife is gonNA improve my ex wife. Now, she's GonNa be pissed and she's like they're not coming in my house I'm like, okay relax and. Just. The Panthers anyways like all right. So. I said look I'm going to surrender the paints. And that's what I. Did I surrendered the pants. Couple days before Christmas Monday night football. The steelers are playing the Tampa Bay box. Tampa Bay goes on to win the super bowl that year Pittsburgh really needs this win to go into the playoffs to go into the wild card game. And what happens. At. Halftime and. Dealers plan okay and halftime. We go out to the fire in December at the steelers central that I was It was a a man's house. We steeler central it was it was just a great time great times. I surrender the pants to my friend gene and my friend. Tom. And they burn the pants and they do this little ritual. steelers won that game they won the next couple. was. Good in the world, the pants were gone and. All of a sudden. The POX is lifted. So it's superstition. Everybody has superstitions when it comes to the Pittsburgh steelers and a a really fun thing to talk about does it really work now it doesn't work. It has nothing to do everything you with the team, the talent, the preparation, but we need to have the superstition. Our life we need to have makes a part of being steeler nation and being a sports fan. It makes us feel like we are a part of the village and we're a part of the victories. That's why when we talk about the steelers. The steelers we do. But how many times do we say we and you know what? If you do this. I'm sorry. But I hate when somebody says, what are you part of the team now? When you say, Hey, we want. Yeah, you know with as supporters as fans as members of steeler nation you're allowed to say we you can say we I don't say it very often, but Safeway. Because being supporter and these fans will tell you I mean excuse me these players will tell you that when they hear renegade when they see these towels and this is a. Dave Scofield gave me the style. It's a sticks renegade pal terrible towel when they see that going and they hear that Song Jordan. Just, a month ago on this very show he said. That when we hear that song, we get fired up when we hear those fans, we see those towels waving we get fired up. So you're allowed to be we you are we you are as Rhenium Amaya Mark Davison Steve O'Neill. Those are just the names I'm seeing right now kyle scofield. Hey a a legacy of the Big Bro Son he has one of those. Yeah. Your uncle gave it to me. In fact, you're probably there when he bought it speaking of. Quick. Speaking of superstition. Kyle Scofield is not really allowed to go to the Games anymore with his dad because when he goes to the steelers lose kyle I know about that. So I'm just telling you. But hopefully you could break we'll find a way to break the curse. So you know what? That's the thing. That's the thing we have the superstitions whatever we do. We are we we're allowed to be weighed. And always be we. So I'd like to hear about some superstitions if you have some I mean. Poor Kyle I just. I just talked about the superstition that he's a part of it's not even his superstition. They're just saying you're not allowed to go to the Games, anymore. As were says I was burgeoning when Bettas fumbled I note down behind the bar for like ninety seconds. Ezra also says another superstition of mine. I've always wanted steeler Game Day since nineteen ninety five when my Job Stop Bartenders from wearing jerseys I stopped working on Sundays over since two thousand seven. Love, it Mark Davison says my other superstition I. Post a photo on facebook and instagram pre game comment been doing this since two thousand, seventeen US original photos never repeat photo. Mark I gotta get out. I gotta find a way to come down under party with you guys, skewer nation Australia. I want a huge party. We bring to 'em. Down under that's what we're. GonNa do. As Ray this is another superstition Agri with US I. Never Ever Bet on the steelers my luckiest bad. We'd be the Browns of I'd bet on the throughout my life. Mark. Gavison rt our city from Australia. Here we go. So you know what we have superstitions. We have funded this. It's all a part of our fantasy world of sports and it is a fantasy world. We. Steeler fans because we have a connection to family or friends that got us into it. It makes us feel good. We love sharing it with our friends and family. My kids don't love football and I'm fine with that. But but I tell you what about this with the Hartman's just yesterday. Our kids and their kids do the same thing. They see somebody and we live in Ireland they see somebody wearing raven, Jersey they're not afraid to go up with given La Boo or needle or talk smack and I love it. So that's. That's we do this. Because, it's an escape from reality. Sometimes reality creeps into it and we've got talk about on the we know that, but you know it's just. The superstitions. Half. They don't hurt anybody. They do. You stop but no. Says I might have to break out the fried chicken sought when them to my high school basketball games. We never lost don't know for the work on pro football though here's the thing Kyle I wanna see the the fried chicken socks I. WanNa. See Your Dad your uncle wherein fried chicken socks too. So with that being said, almost the name of the show. Had A lot funnier today. Don't be afraid to embrace to am don't be afraid to embrace your superstitions don't be afraid to be the we. Just invented that. If you're listening to this podcast platform, I put my fingers up in the form of a w then I put for an eight. Don't be afraid to be the way. That's what you gotTA. Do you've got to be we? You've gotTa have your superstition gotTa Keep Loving Your steelers through thick and thin I know if they're one fifteen I'm going to be complaining about him but I'm not missile the game. And I know if they're going to be sixteen now. You now, I'm going to be there just the same. Embrace. Being part of steeler nation. Please tell your friends about this show. In all of our shows on the podcast we need your downloads we need your likes we need you to follow the website to. Be a part of our world have a lot of fun. This is the best keillor communicate. Excuse me the best stealer community. As far as I'm concerned. In all sports and you guys make that fun. 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Yeah, I Said It: Why the Pittsburgh media is scared to criticize Ben Roethlisberger

Behind the Steel Curtain

11:42 min | 1 year ago

Yeah, I Said It: Why the Pittsburgh media is scared to criticize Ben Roethlisberger

"Welcome back listeners to another episode of year asset it their personas being brought to you by your shouli. Lance Williams wanna give a big shout out to all the podcast that behind the steel curtain wanna give shot out to behind still curtain fantastic website listeners if you're not checking out BTS's behind his still curtain, you're not getting the best content in Steeler football. It's the best fan site on the web big up to my co host on the standard is the standard. Jeff Hartmann in Jeff always gets on me because Jeff is joy. And I'm I guess the opposite of joy sad. You know, we're joy in paying pretty much sunshine. Rain, you guys know the song the anyway, if you don't notice on go to streaming service, whatever it is and look up joint pain Frankie anyway on this week's episode, and I may have teased it on last week's episode, but but let me. To say this real quick because Jeff gets on me. Sometimes I say, yeah. I said that but the name of this show is a fishery year, I said it and so even in the beginning of the show. I might have said, yeah, I said that. But if you know black folk, and you know, how we talk, and you know, our lexicon. And you know, all that, you know, sometimes me not saying for all black folks, I get into my bag, and sometimes that it all kinda blends. Yes, it that. Yeah. Said you know, what it is? You know, how I get down popular holiday. Boy, let's do it. But on this particular episode. Yeah, I said it. The Pittsburgh press is afraid to criticize Ben Rothlisberger. Couple of weeks ago. Jerry, dude, lock esteemed writer for the Pittsburgh post gazette. He and Ed bouchette are the most senior writers who cover the Pittsburgh Steelers for the post gazette. They are considered Steeler press. America's so to speak, particularly Ed bouchette because I believe Ed bouchette has a hall of fame vote. I mean, I grew up on air bouchette, you know, we just call him bouchette in Pittsburgh. That's what it is. So it was bullshit and do like dulack bouchette. So Jerry dulack opinion is very influential in Pittsburgh. And in fact, you can see where a lot of beat writers kind of take the their paces from you know, how he kind of does his thing. And I I got a bone to pick with Jerry do lock because I think the Pittsburgh press is entirely afraid to criticize Ben Rothlisberger. Gonna give you an example, Jerry gulag. Does his grades every week after every game? And he does a seasonal grade. Jerry do lock gave been rothlisburger in a grade for the season. First of all if you don't make the playoffs in Pittsburgh, the home of the six championships. You can't get an egg raid. So that's not just starts off right there. He largely gave Ben Rothlisberger in eight grade because of been being first in yards with five thousand one hundred and twenty nine and I and completions with four hundred and fifty two now the four hundred and fifty two completions are historic only two quarterbacks in the history of NFL have had that many completions that drew Brees and Ben Rothlisberger. He glossed over the interceptions because of bins pass attempts. I believe he attempted over six hundred fifty passes this year roughly about forty five a game. But riddle me this if you will tip that. Any passes. Your interception percentage should be pretty low. Let me get it to a couple of numbers in. Why I think bins? Great from do lock is totally off been was first in the league in interceptions. His interception to touchdown to interception ratio. Excuse me with two-to-one a quarterback of his caliber has to be minimum three to one. He also was number one in the National Football League with four red zone interceptions. And let's play this back. If he doesn't throw just one of those red zone interceptions. Let's just take the Cleveland game. They go to the playoffs. And we wanna great a season. Don't you think going to the playoffs and not going to the playoffs? Should elevate. A player's grade. If you don't hey, man, I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say to you. Hey, you know, you need to seek counseling or something. And now no slight to people who do seek counseling. But if you don't think going to the playoffs is better than not you a little crazy. Also quarterback rating been office burgers quarterback rating was ninety six point five fifteenth in the NFL guests who had a higher quarterback rating. Then been Rothlisberger Dak Prescott Dak Prescott. And guess we're Dak Prescott is playing right now. Exactly guess we're deck press cots team went to the playoffs. That's what this is about. This is about winning. And when you great a player it has to be in the context of winning. They won nine games, but his play wasn't good enough. And that's not going to some of the other reds on turnovers. Like the Denver game stuff. Like that. Because we know, hey, he secure the football better. They go to the playoffs. Indus- in my opinion, his quarterback grades go up. But or as overall grade goes up, but let me just say if been office burger gets in a let me let me throw you some numbers from Patrick Mahomes, who I think is going to be the MVP and drew Brees Mahomes was second and rating. Second yards to been but he had fifty touchdowns. He did have double digit interceptions. I believe he had fifteen. But if you give me fifty touchdowns out take the fifty TD's with it for four point five. Touchdown interception ratio. And one thing about yards listeners in this current NFL yards or like calories or like empty calories from donuts you can get yards in this NFL. It's about touchdowns. It's about scoring. The Steelers were great in the red zone. This year at about seventy eight to close to eighty percent seventy five from around that the best that they've ever been. That's a testament to been, but he did not secure the football down there and the four red zone interceptions were way too much. Let's look at drew Brees. I in rating one fifteen point seven six to one TD to interception ratio thirty. Eighty two touchdowns five interceptions. That is a caliber quarterbacking. And guess what? Their teams are the respective one seeds in the AFC NFC that is a level quarterbacking. And so that goes back to the point. That the press in my opinion is afraid to criticize big been criticized this guy. It's okay. The eye in the sky does not lie guys like do lock and other guys out there who are trying to suggest that this quarterback played a caliber football. They're lying to your listeners. They are absolutely lying to you. And let's not get into the passive aggressiveness of bins leadership style. The way he throws guys under the bus. I LA the Denver game the way he kicked AB in the ass, which I'm not excusing ABC for not showing up an acting out and pouting during the last week of the season before the Bengals game. But hey, man when a guy throws you under the bus like that says that it shouldn't have thrown you the ball. Let me just not getting into that. Because you guys are going to say that I'm making excuse for AB, and I'm not making excuse for a guy writes his name Rolls, Royce. Who's a total me- guy who's totally unprofessional and has significant issues in his killing help to kill the team chemistry in locker room, which is so essential in vital to winning. But these Pittsburgh guys are afraid to criticize big been. They've excused the passive aggressive behavior. Dave excuse the I wouldn't say mediocre, but I'm not saying Hala fame standard level of quarterback play. They excused it. And why are they afraid to criticize big been? It's the access game been controls the access the Steelers control the access. This is a give and take this is a relationship. They're never gonna hit been too hard because they are afraid to lose access, dude. Let bullshit post gazette all these guys or if they hit them too hard, the access that they get won't be worth a rat's because these guys won't say anything because these guys are thin skinned. And the press is scared to lose the access that they've gained over the course of time. That's why you need to come to sites like behind this still Kirk you need to listen to shows like this shows that will take bend to task and criticize him fairly based on the numbers and performance and the other thing about all these guys they're not looking at being on them. Ben wasn't seeing guys. Clearly and seeing the field clearly all year, the sixteen interceptions could have easily been in the twenties because there were a bunch of throws that guys either dropped or for some reason it did not get picked off. This guy was not playing a. Caliber football. And the reason he wasn't doing it is because I don't know why scattershot it was all over the place. But the Pittsburgh press is afraid to criticize been robbers burger, and it's because of access they don't wanna lose it. Yeah. I said it. Thank you listeners for tuning into third episode if yeah, I said it. Yeah. I said that year Jeff does a dig at you big up again to everybody behind is still curtain that does a fantastic job. Putting articles up big up to Jeff big up. The Dave Scofield big up to all the podcasters out there. Big up to all you listeners that make this a labor of love. But with that, we're outta here. 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Radio Wire: BTSC Editor Jeff Hartman joins SB Nation Radio's Joe Spano to talk Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown

Behind the Steel Curtain

16:01 min | 1 year ago

Radio Wire: BTSC Editor Jeff Hartman joins SB Nation Radio's Joe Spano to talk Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown

"SP nation radio nation radio dot com, presented by Quicken Loans. Live from the Reilly auto parts studios years Joe spanner. Now, I stand corrected going to break that we're gonna talk Lakers. That's next out as I said the top of the hour actually top Steelers. So let's go out to the guest line and bring in from SP nation is one of our intrepid Steelers reporters each Jeff Hartmann. Jeff, welcome to the program, buddy. Great to talk to you today. Thanks for having me. And my pleasure. Let let's dive right in. I guess this off season these Steelers our team turmoil. I mean, there's no other way to describe it. Antonio Brown wants out living on bell has wanted out. And it looks like in some way, shape or form. Both of them are probably going to get their wish you would that be fair to say that both of these guys are not going to be in Pittsburgh Steeler uniform come opening day. Yeah. I think it saves say that I'm also say this is not just a team turmoil off season. It's been team turmoil for the past two seasons. Going back all the way to win lady on Dell held out of training camp when he was franchise tag, the first time this season has been marked by turmoil with bell, not showing up they tell you ground having his issues now, obviously, well things have really just escalated quickly in my opinion. I don't think at this point in time. There's any chance lady on bells going to be back the Steelers might transition tag. But that doesn't need to back. This is their way of trying to get some compensation. Then also you have until you Brown now. The crazy thing about this situation with antenna ground that clearly went out, and it seems like he's doing whatever he can to get out. But he's forgetting that he's he's under the the Steelers have full control over him. You see other players from other teams saying, hey, let's get together. It's not a free agent. The Steelers trade him to whoever they they fit. And it's not necessarily always going to be the view. I think getting the New England Patriots off for the first of the second, and I've guaranteed it wouldn't take that deal because they don't wanna turn around the patriots. So really unique situation camera. Call a any situation really wreaking years where it's kind of been this public, and then this ugly between those side. But I don't think there's any chance of back next year. Jeff, isn't it time for the Steelers to just move on from levian bell? Let's skip the whole transition tag thing. You know, I it's becoming more trouble than it's worth. He's a huge distraction. You've already found his replacement and Connor who's done a hell of a job running the football. And being a weapon out of the backfield, not the same type of back necessaries, necessarily as bell. But the results are pretty darn similar. And so is the versatility. Isn't it just time to move on at some point? You just have to say, hey, this guy ain't playing for us and the distraction of trying to wiggle something out of somebody as far as compensation is more trouble than it's worth. Let's skip tagging them. Let's let him go. And let's get our pick in the twenty twenty draft and move on. Yeah. I can see sides. I mean, I can see, you know, they got cancer. But he just cut it out. And you just let him go and you get a compensatory pick for him and the twenty twenty drafts. But then again, you know, I see the report of thinking about well, maybe we get something more. We get something in this year stra- for if we were to transition tagging, depending on what the price tag gonna be match any offer or try to trade him. It's it's a gamble in my thing in the transition takes gamble. But at the same time, I could also see just saying look it's over it's the relationship has been soured for two years now. And it's just on the cut ties personally, I would much rather have them just cut the ties let it be unrestricted free agent. Get your compensatory taking twenty twenty and just move on with your but James, Caan ridge or starter. But at the same time lot of rumors reports states, not planning. Doing. So we'll see I don't think it's over you. Now, let's get to the Specht of it. Now, there's a huge capit- tied to trading in Tonio Brown. So I've got a divest myself of a true number one receiver. And there's no doubt that he's a true number one receiver who when you look at his contract by number one receiver standards is actually underpaid. When you compare to some of the contracts around the league. So I'm gonna do this get paid back with at best a late first round pick more than likely, and I'm going to have to have eighteen million dollars of dead cap dead money on my salary cap. And I understand all the things they be is done is probably painted him into a corner. As far as your ability to keep him. But the realities are it doesn't seem like very good business to me for the Steelers to trade and Tonio Brown. No, I it's not good business. And it's sad. That would were at the state currently. But at the same time, he you know, could into new Brown walk back into that locker room, and you know, apologize mean if you think about the things that he said is especially recently batter day about Enron burger about Mike Tomlin how he walked out on his team and week seventeen during the Bank game that was must when gave dealers if they just had hope of making the playoffs could he walked back into that locked room? I'm sure because he counted enough. Yes. But I think there's a lot of players they're sick and tired of the whole circus. And it's no surprise that. The circus revolves around the two players that we've already talked about during the segment, and that's the unbalance around. And so I think the Steelers look at it and say if we can trade him, and we can get a first pick for yes, we're gonna we're gonna take a salary cap is because the dead money, but at the same. Meantime, we're gonna be getting something in return. The question is do you think that the the field have to ask themselves? Do they think they can still the offense of -ly and powerful this season? They didn't have any around compared to they did that tough to say, yes. Because if you get a draft pick, there's no guaranteed until you Brown's a proven commodity draft picks or not it'll be really interesting. There's a lot of people that say feelers probably won't get a first forum. I find that hard to believe if Joe flacco and get a fourth I feel like antennae and get it I, but yeah, I mean, it's it would make sense for them to reconcile. It hasn't come back. But I don't know if that's possible at this point. Let me ask you this then because Suming Antonio Brown is not back. You get a new number one wide receiver in town. His name is chew Smith Schuster, and you were mentioning about the offense will be good with canopy as good without Brown as with them. Now. I guess here's the reality. We all know that true number one receivers who have to game plan around make everybody else in the passing game better, and they have a huge effect. So with that said, you subtract Antonio Brown from this mix. Are we sure that you ju Smith Schuster is a true number one receiver not a number two masquerading as a number one. Because if he's not a true number one receiver this Steelers passing offense will not take one step back. It will take several steps back. So you're around that team. All the time. You watch them all the time. Are you comfortable in the belief that juju Smith Schuster is a true number one receiver that? Defenses will have to game plan around when Antonio Brown leaves. No, I'm not sure that in the thing is they will get played around him. But he's easier to take out of the game compared to Antony Brown. Okay. Example last year and New Orleans the end of the season interpretive Brown was bracketed and doubled of every single time of field. If you still had a big game scored a touchdown to issue trivia on week seventeen. I don't like he's in this as the prime example because it was such short notice. It was such a strange week. I had a feeling that into Brown was eight played at until he bailed on the team. Then was told he wasn't gonna play on Sunday that kind of changes things in terms of the preparation leading up to the week. But jeez Schuster with essentially taken out of the game. He did score touchdown, but even the Bengals data's there was last season. They were able to keep judy's issues during check. I think interior is not return next season. The Steelers offense is going to have to change. And to believe or not it might not be a bad thing. They're gonna have to focus on the run. The run game on often divine will pretty much the tactic here. There is prevented foster guard is a free agent, but they have good back-up there. They could step in and started EJ city other than that. They'll all be back if they're all back. They're all healthy. I have no problem if the sealer setting around here, we need to be run first team last year, then all this food over five thousand yards, but he also had I think maybe the most attempts in the league any else had no interceptions. So if by internal around leading they have to become a little bit more balance a little less focus on throwing the skin around the yard and controlling the clock. I think that might actually be better for the team and better for the offense. It might not be entertaining leaders many points per game. I'm not trying to say the dish by subtraction. Because they tenure Brown at my opinion. Generational talent. But at the same time, I think they could still be functional and still be effected without. Jeff Hartmann SP nation Espy nation. Joining us here on ESPN radio's we talk all things Steelers. I'm gonna ask this question. And I know you may left me out of the room. But Mike Tomlin's one ninety one twenty five and sixty six it is career with the a better than sixty five percent winning percentage. He's eight and seven overall in the playoffs. He's won a Super Bowl gone to another. But a very talented team stayed home this year and has missed the playoffs. Three other years in Mike Tomlin's tenure despite having a hall of fame quarterback and a bunch of famers on the roster while he's been there is the seat under my time. We hear all this disharmony as well over the last couple of years with these big time players at him not being able to control things is the seat under Mike Tomlin starting to get a little bit warm. And I know that's almost a sacrilege to say, especially when you factor in how much the Steelers believe in continuity. From Knowle to cower to now Tomlin is Mike Tomlin job in some jeopardy here. You know, I would say I would say yes, it certainly heat up his job in jeopardy. It would have to be precipitous fall from grace of feelers trip. If they were to, you know, not just miss the playoffs, and I fear but heavily ding season. If the locker even if they do get rid of bell and Brown in the locker still isn't Shabelle players are kind of doing their own thing and acting out the way that they have been, and I think there's a good chance that the Tomlin could be gone. There's just been some really damning evidence. Whether it's from, you know, internal Brown hockey. Well, he I think when you hear about all the things that they covered up in internal Brown always late, and then Tonio would skip meetings all the time, and he would not come the walk throughs and Tomlin just tolerated all of this stuff. It was the two thousand seventeen inch divisional playoff versus the Jaguars lady on down this to walk through before the playoff eight. And he did this a staff. You have to think yourself is there's a players coach. And then there's the copes that is really doing too much. And I I know the former player said that Tom has saying I'm gonna treat everyone fairly but not equally and they would say that in around shows up every game because he's a big player at the same time. You know, what are you doing to the rest of the team? I feel like Tomlin's loss a little bit control a little bit of control. And that's always been the one caveat that he had his back pocket the one airline and leaves that he's a player's coach players love him. He has control the law firm this year with all this stuff and come out, you feel like that slipping a little bit and Mike Tomlin can come in this year. Get the reins back, especially if Delon Browner gone and the circus comes down if you can regain the range of the, you know, the horse and carriage and lead this team back to the playoffs. I think that his job as was league. If they missed the playoffs again, I don't think there's any. Anything wrong with saying that his season be very very hot. Because I don't think I really the second in charge is going to tolerate not just leasing it. Having the Steelers brand in the Steelers name turn into what it's turned into used to be the Utah consistency talk about things like continuity and strengthen leadership hasn't been the case for this team the past year, so they need to get back to that. Tell them doesn't own thing. I don't think it's a bad thing to say that. Yeah. Be getting not. Quick. I got about thirty seconds. If you was general manager or the man in charge of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Would you consider replacing Mike Tomlin right now? On now. I would not know personally. I know there's plenty of would. But not me. All right. That's fair enough. Great stuff. Jeff really appreciate the insight into the wild and wooly world of the Pittsburgh Steelers. And I have every confidence we'll be talking again soon as we get towards the draft, and we get towards free agency and everything else 'cause I expect the Steelers to make some interesting moves that will Ed to and subtract from their roster. Thanks so much for few. Jeff do appreciate it, man. Thanks. You got it by Jeff Hartmann from Espy nation. Joining us here SP nation radio break it all down as it relates to the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll Tai Bo around the middle. Our of three next here on ESPN radio show. Spaniel Bobby beats with you keep it where it is mama's Spencer home by name is Jason Kurt. My name is Ryan nanny, we combined. We form the shutdown full Tron keep telling you this forecast is technically college football podcast. But it's also a show about care disaster regional grocery stores. 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Steelers Burning Question: Which Steelers players needs to step up for a victory vs. the Patriots?

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Steelers Burning Question: Which Steelers players needs to step up for a victory vs. the Patriots?

"Want to know more about what your favorite ninjas have on their minds. Check out the american ninja warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any ninja warrior fan pittsburgh steeler fans welcome to another episode of the steelers burning question. Shouldn't this is not jeff hartmann. This is dave scofield. I'm filling in for jeff. Burning question jeff spent a lot of podcast this week. You had to loan on wednesday atlanta. Williams also went live earlier today with a with a special. The standard is the standard went with some the news was going on and what are you know. There was more news after the fact but here we are. This is the burning question. You're going to get a different host. This show <hes> from week to week. We're going to order switch it up. Sometimes it'll be me. Sometimes we jeff. Sometimes we'll be lance. Sometimes it'll be mr brian anthony davis we're. We're going to be switching it up some just to see kind of how things go and who knows maybe every once in a while. It'll be more than one of us so here. We are and there's a lot a lot of stuff going on in the live chat already. This show is talking about the steelers matchup tomorrow because we're recording it on saturday against the new england patriots as much as i don't wanna talk about it. I'm going to have to mention the news from earlier. I'm going to actually use the players real name mm-hmm but mr antonio brown was released from the oakland raiders earlier today. Jeff and lance went on and did a podcast specifically to talk about that and of course as soon as the news broke. When i was outside mowing my grass i'm writing on the tractor and i get a bunch of texts from jefferson lance and lancet santa told your show i told you so that we now know that <hes> the reason this can be brought up in the news. Now is because this is a player that is now on the team that steelers face this sunday now the whole reason. I'm bringing it up. Is that no. He cannot play play in the game tomorrow night. No he cannot be on the sideline for the game tomorrow night. He was not free to sign in anywhere until after four pm today and the and the transaction cannot happen until monday so it cannot be go through the office because four. PM today was the deadline in order for teams to have their rosters ready for the for sunday so which is really interesting that this was all set up so much easily before that time when although his agent was allowed not to speak to teams once she was released he was not allowed to do anything until that time but my father called me and said well no one must be interested in him because his agents here on TV doing interviews and whatnot if people really interested in them. You'd be working a deal and i said to my father. You know what i think. They already have the deal in place. I think they had to deal in place for a while. They might have already had this deal in place way back in march for all we know that if he could get released where he was going to go and as of today he is released and that is exactly where he went. I have not figured out yet how they are declaring the cap space for the new england patriots to add antonio brown to the roster. I think it's pretty sad that there is someone right now on that roster for this game this weekend that will not be there monday because of him most likely that player is probably not even gonna be active for the game day but maybe they will be. It's hard to say you never know so. All this is coming out but it doesn't affect us game on sunday tomorrow. The the biggest thing with me is seriously feeling pretty good about how the <hes> mister third fifth and fallen off the deep end in oakland and things weren't working out the fact that they got any draft picks out of the deal looked pretty good but guess what the for that. We don't care about that anymore anymore. Because what happened has happened and it's just continually makes fan sick. I think fans from around the league league are kind of sick that a player can behave in such a way and then get rewarded. Some people think he's orchestrated this from the very beginning. I tended to lean that way but i'm not sure that he's really has the intelligence to pull it off but maybe he does. It seemed like he knew what he was doing before this and this all seemed so uncharacteristic but let's not dive into that because that's not why we're here tonight. I'm kinda done talking about it. <hes> y'all wanna keep talking about it alive chad. That's a okay. I know there's a lot of action going on and i'll be honest with you. I haven't really had a chance to really look at it so if you had a question to go with everything tonight i have not seen it yet. I probably won't see it and i'll probably bobby. Wait until a time for one we ask but let's get to the steelers burning question. Let's talk about this game before we hit the actual burden question. I really wanna talk about one other thing that really affects steelers and that was a lot of steeler fans are pretty upset with the roster move that was made today by the steelers where they promoted johnny holden wide receiver from the practice squad to the fifty three man roster and doing so they've released outside. Linebacker virtues are skipper. There's a lot of people that do not like the fact that the steelers released skipper i for one thing. This is a calculated move. It was a calculated move. It was part of the deal of why johnny houghton was brought back a couple of days later. I think it was a plan all along to get him onto into the fifty three man roster and the steelers knew that they were going to do that that because he was the last guy signed to the practice squad. They went with just ten when they had space for eleven eleven to start because they hadn't worked out all the details so i think this was going to happen. The steelers were only carrying wide receivers. They usually carry six many many thought maybe there is an IRA move coming. That didn't happen or things like that. Here's the other thing that people might not think about when it comes to choose our skipper. If the steelers released him last saturday he gets claimed off waivers most likely he had more saxon anyone in preseason there was a very high likelihood that he would get claimed off waivers being saturday the day before a game in order for someone to claim him off waivers now they would then have to release someone for their game and with everything going on with game planning the focus on the game at hand. Do teams really want to go through that. So could they yes. It's still a possibility that he can be claimed off waivers but it's a lot more likely that he'll pass waivers favors now than it would have been if he was released last weekend. I know many people would have rather than released somebody else. Let's say like tyler medicaid which which was one that was popular floating around out there. The steelers aren't gonna weren't going to release one that was going to be active for the game and i done my predictions of who was going to be inactive if i had to go in and change it because i had skipper on the list that he was going to be active. I think what what the interesting changes there. Now is the steelers go to address six wide receivers and all likelihood. There probably not so out of their six wide receivers who isn't going to get a helmet tomorrow now. Some people would say well. It'll be johnny holden. If that's the case. Why did they bring him up onto the roster after other than there's only two reasons it would have brought him up onto the roster at four. PM on saturday if they weren't going to have him active it was either that was the deal worked out with him that he was going to be on the practice squad but he would be on the fifty three man roster by week one to get his higher paycheck or be another team was looking to sign. Him wouldn't be surprised if it was a team. I don't know maybe on the west coast that just released a wide receiver today maybe they i needed someone and wanted to bring him back home because that's where he played last three seasons before this point so there's a lot going on here that the steelers were trying to workout. I'm going to trust them that they were trying to do the best thing that they could do one for the players to their team probably switch the order that was best s. thirteen to what's best for the individual players and three. What's going to allow them to keep the the most talent around so that's kind of how it goes. That was the movie that was made so. Let's dive into the question so here's tonight's burning question which steelers player needs to have. I don't know exactly right alcee these to have the best game or is going to needs to play while to have the most impact against the patriots on sunday now. There's a lot of routes you could take with this one who needs to have the best game the number one obvious answer is ben rothlisberger. That's always going to be the answer whether it be ben rothlisberger. Whether it be mason rudolph wetherby whoever would be the quarterback of the steelers in in order for the steelers to win the game. It kind of the most important position is going to be for the quarterback to play well. It's really difficult for teams to win in spite of their quarterback play. It's not out of the question we saw it. We saw a super bowl win from that purple team in the division in the year two thousand from basically a quarterback tactic could barely get by but the defense one want one in their games so it's possible but in this current setup we all know that it's been rothlisburger berger who needs to have the best game in order for the steelers to win because you can have the best defense in the world but if you don't score any points you're going to end up in a zero zero tie unless the defense puts one on the board or make a turnover in and feel rage so let's leave the obvious ben rothlisberger answer out a no oh already. I've got some people in the live chat <hes> shooting shooting some people some suggestions out there and i'm going to list some of them because i believe they're right. Some of them are actually in agreement to my answer to a similar question. We have on the steelers preview but believe it or not. I might change my answer a little bit. You can look to the offense. You could say that juju needs to come through. You could say that someone like james. Washington needs to step up and so that way <hes> juju isn't drawn as much attention mentioned you could look for events mcdonald as another receiver to step up. You could say the offensive line as a whole needs to play well in order to protect mcbarron and for james connor be able to run the ball. All those are great answers. There's so many great answers on offense that i think i'm gonna stick defects and i've said it a lot of times i said it on steeler stat geico set it on sealers preview the biggest thing that the steelers need to do to disrupt the patriots offense is is to get it. Tom brady and tom brady does much better stepping away from ed rushers coming got him from the side then he does middle rushers coming right in his face. If you've noticed he he can step back step up slide forward gordon back much easier to try to elude those address edge pass rushers coming in from the side then what he does if there is someone coming right up in his face that he can. He can move much better for tobacco than he does laterally side to side. That's just my thought with all of this. So at first i wanted to say j von hargrave but the biggest thing with hargrave is how much is he going to be on the field. If the steelers are running running are running much based defense. How are they going to get him in that rotation and defensive tackle so then i'd say cam hayward well guess what the patriots know how good came hayward as they do same reason that the real answer isn't TJ what bill belichick gushed over TJ rot already in interviews interviews. They know how good he is. They have a game plan for him and my opinion who needs to step up the most is a player that they're not expecting. That's exactly what happened. Last year. Heinz field when i was in attendance when the steelers defeated the new england patriots seventeen to ten the last time new england has not not or did victorious that whatever game for the rest of the season after that and now here we are in week one. I was there and i don't think they really took into account or knew how to handle jalen samuels. He went for one hundred. I think it was one hundred seventy two yards in total between rushing and passing. You had a great game. They didn't know what to do. <hes> didn't have a specific not that they didn't know didn't have a specific plan for him in mind. It seem seem to be so. I think some people are already in there because here's ron kellerman. He's got it. He's about to say to it. Exactly i'm going going to say steph onto it is might be the most important person for the steelers to step up in order for them to win because this is like i said this is all my opinion. We're gonna look at some opinions here for you. Guys a little bit but i think that the most important thing is that inside pass rush. Do they know what they're getting from came hayward. He's pro bowler all pro player therefore who's going to benefit the most is the other guy i think steph onto it if he can if he can be the one that comes through it makes the place and we've all seen it. We've all seen it in flashes. Che's especially when he's healthy and right now i there hasn't been anything with steph onto. Its health all preseason so if he's coming in unhealthy we saw him beat cam hayward and bud depre- to the safety against marcus mariota. I say he beat them. Because mario was getting he's getting sacked for that safety. No matter what the only the only thing that matters which steeler was going to get to him first to get credit and to it got there just before hayward and debris so he he he he got credit for that so i think he's going to be the forgotten guy. J von hargrave had six and a half sacks last year. I think it was six and a half correct me. If i'm wrong that it was he had all those sax last year so they're gonna pay attention to him. There's no one that they can't pay attention to across the front but but what do pres looking great so i'm saying i think the person that's flying the most under the radar on that defensive front steph onto it so if he's steps up to have a big game name that's gonna that's gonna bring a lot of trouble to new england patriots now that ready to turn over some stuff into the live chat but there's a few things i want. I want to answer answer one more thing about this question and that is this because i asked this question of jeff hartmann earlier today. I'm like if the game is tied or one or two point game or even a three point game at the end and chris boswell has to come out onto the field for the tire the win how confident are steeler steeler nation in chris boswell coming out to make this kick. I have a lot more confidence now that last year but i had a lot of confidence going into last year so that's another question to say he's the one who needs to step up the biggest reason i'm not saying chris. Chris boswell was the biggest person who needs to step up sunday night against the patriots is that he he has has to be dependent on the rest of the team for him to get the opportunity. When he made the pro bowl back in two thousand seventeen he got all those game winning kicks six because the steelers put him in an opportunity to make those game winning kicks or he could even attempt them so his it all comes down to who is he going to get the attempts so that's why he's kind of a step back from the being the most important to to step up against the patriots but one given the opportunity if given the opportunity chris boswell is a very big factor in that so all right. I've got a couple of housekeeping things that i i would like to do here but before i jump into the live chat. I'm probably not going to go back and look at past things because there's a lot of past things i wanted to give given exact number two. How many spots are available in the in the contest and the behind the curtain <hes> survivor pool for the side david decastro football. We are up to six leagues. Obviously we are not gonna start another one because the deadline is tomorrow at one. PM and right now 'cause i know i had to send up the information to some people today that asked me <hes> there was someone in the live chat the last time that asked me i attempted to send the link out in the live chats on thursday night but it will not show up youtube will not take the website will not allow that website to come up if if you are not in the survivor pool and you need the link you cannot find it on behind the curtain dot com. I'm going to be typing my email address into the live chat here in a few minutes because that's one thing you can do. You can email me. I will send you the link. There are twelve spots remaining meaning. We are twelve spots up to where we'll have six legs full and now i know that looks like it's six hundred people but because i'm all six because i set them up that would be five hundred at ninety five people all right. That's a good idea. Peter says that i can put it in the description below. I might put it on youtube later. I don't know how to do that now that i'm started because we're actually not going through youtube. We have to use an outside service in order you too and it says it right there on the screen. I'm pretty sure on youtube up in the corner that we go through stream yard. That's the only way that we can now run a show that has multiple hosts and you're like it's just you. Why don't you do it through youtube because i like to be able to bring up wonderful wonderful comments like here of scott got decree that says. AB is a clown okay here. We go getting then with bo helped me out there. It is s. t. l. ourse superfan in dad at gmail.com getting met with bill. Has it in there. I'll try to bring it up here with the actual steelers. BTC SEO's radio account but that's actually email you email me there. I can get you the link to get you into the contest as long as there's still spots remaining and like i said there's twelve left. I want that email up for another reason. I've i've got something that i that. I'm opening up to you all because i need to just open it out to the people that i know better. I'm actually trying to do is to help my brother. He has two tickets to the steelers home opener against seattle september fifteenth one PM game. They are in the upper deck in the end zone section five twenty five rosie. I even have a picture of you from the seats that pretty much you and actually they're the exact seats because between my brother when someone else in people that have season tickets. Those are the exact seats that we did as our giveaway for the first preseason game was i was like hey i'll grab the preseason seats so he can give away. He has them for sale for a really good price a better price at what you're going to get on ticketmaster the reason we don't want to go on ticketmaster ticketmaster take so which is the official official. NFL exchange that's all season ticket holders out to put their seats out there they take so much the money away and we would much rather than listed for that price football is finally back and nothing adds to the excitement minim watching that first game having shot at a million dollars draft kings the leader in one day fantasy football is celebrating the start of the season with an extra special social week one contest new users can sign up today and get a free shot at the one million dollar grand prize just by using code. 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I've actually hardwired in <hes> but if someone would like to see those seats are actually for the for two seats. It's three hundred hundred dollars so that's one hundred fifty dollars a seat for the home opener that is fake. I already see that. I got some people e mailing me asking for the link for the survivor pool. When we are done this broadcast i will get those out. I'm really sorry if if if this is going on again i have a full internet connection connection right now so i'm pretty sure that the biggest issue that we're having is actually through the service that we're running through so in case you didn't in here if anyone is in. Please email me if you're interested to the steelers home opener. That's that's a big deal home opener a lot of good stuff going on there. You're not cheaper than that out there. They're great seats if you've never been to heinz field this is your opportunity so someone said mommy guess. I got my internet from new england. No i don't i. I honestly what i think is happening is that they don't like the things that were saying about the game coming up this week and so therefore they're they're trying to take away <hes> very trying trying to sabotage that much much like they would with the headsets on the sideline so i will. We'll say i didn't even really want to say this at all but since vodka drinker brought it up they've congratulate you on the honest attempt that field goal yes. I knew i was going to go out there and get embarrassed the most embarrassing thing about the field goal if you did not watch it on friday was that i missed all my attempts to the right. I'm i'm not used to missing any attempts like that. I know exactly why did i knew i couldn't kick it. The forty five yards plus. I needed to go across a go through the uprights. It's and i and my attempt to over kick. I i just did not get very good attempts. I will be honest with you it did it wasn't over when the camera went off actually we we lost our feet out there and it was not over at that point but i'm not going to say because i don't wanna make it seem like i'm i'm the one who's making claims because i did not do it on camera but you can ask brian anthony davis and jeff hartmann on thursday on the preview. How things finished up after the camera went off so let's get come on. Let's get in here to the live chat so here we go. Here's lance of course coming into say i already mentioned generally the show lance. If you weren't here at the beginning i gave you credit that lance like he got it right. He knew what was going on what i had to call my father back because that's exactly what i told him was going to happen which is kind of sad because my father is from the boston area so all his family's up there so guess. Which team may they report but but there we go. We got lots of burning question. What i want to have right now is if you all have any questions going into the game sunday. I'm not really wanna talk about the mood. The roster moves that new england made. I'm okay talking about the steelers made or any questions going into the game. Throw throw that out there right now and i will put that on here. People know at what point they can start asking because from this point on i will be looking. I will say that thomas thomas white did say those pants on bad or worse than the kicks. Those were actually talking about. Those were actually game warren pants by. BJ finney that brian had bought and he says i'm gonna put him on to go out there. Jeff was supposed to be wearing his steelers zuma's <hes> but he did not do that so here we got. We got some questions coming here. We go ryan. Kellerman says this holton catch a pass. I'm gonna say this. I'm going to say no. I'm gonna say he he gets a helmet is the fifth wide receiver. He gets on the field for maybe five or six plays. He might not even be targeted his he's going to be getting getting his action on special teams not as a returner but as a gunner and other other things on kickoff punt and all those other teams that that's what he's going to be doing so it would be great if you did catch a pass but i'm gonna say if i had a habit answer i would say no came so let's see what else we got here. I got lance chiming in here. <hes> got a lot of people. The biggest thing that people want to talk about is the whole <hes> antonio brown situation. Yeah snowman said i did have one that went wide left. That's when i tried to put my deflated football back on the t- just to see if it made any difference and i didn't even realize step that off right. I rushed it so that was an unofficial attempt. So if you have any more questions questions coming in here okay here we go. They asked why did two's skipper. Get cut bottom line. This is from jake. How bottom line is the the steelers caring too many linebackers. They were. They were carrying. I'm pretty sure to more than what they did last year. Last year i think they went for the for most of the season with breath with three outside linebackers and five inside linebackers now they did add a fourth ola came off the injured injured reserve last year the designated to return so they usually carry they carried eight or nine last year and they were up to ten so i'm pretty much they've they've almost always carried ticks wide receivers. They were a little bit off balance with that. I still think they did not want to lose to czar skipper but they also knew he was not ready to actually contribute to the team right now so therefore they put someone who could contribute to the team right now on the practice squad that they said we're going to bring you up and that's what happened happened and by doing this move now rather than last saturday like i said before he has a lot more likely to clear waivers so here's another one we have from dallas. It is barren gonna be rusher or coverage. He's going to be coverage in my opinion. I mean he was. He came into league as a safety so it makes sense that that's what he's in. If you've you've watched him in the preseason he covered a wheel route by the by the running back against kansas city down the sidelines to perfection that is what mark mark mariners here for. He has here for the steelers to for a pass coverage linebacker. Devin bush in my opinion is here as both that he's the guy that they're hoping can stuff the run and protect the pass much like ryan shazier vince williams. It's a run stuffer. He's he's a guy. That's a liability in pass coverage. You watch the game on sunday. Watch the game on sunday. Why am i doing your steeler fans. You're gonna watch the game on sunday but during the game on sunday if you pay attention the biggest chessmaster match is going to be the patriots offense trying to us personnel to keep vince williams on the field in order to pass the ball and exploit to match up who he would be covering in pass coverage though used use their personnel to try to keep vince williams on the field because the way the defense works works as they match personnel for personnel then they're going to use that personnel in order to you. Try to pass the ball and get a match up there. That's what i that's my prediction of what they're going to try to do so. Many many people are asking about about that with with a y. Two star skipper was was released so that's that's going on. We are getting some and here we go snowman who doesn't get a helmet. I actually just had to change my thing. This is something i did last year. Most of the time it will come out on saturday but because the steelers play on sunday and there was so much news today that article is going to run tomorrow morning as to my projected inactive list. I think therefore four that are that are pretty much locked. Yeah it was for sean. Davis is doubtful steelers all last year. Nobody was doubtful got helmet. I believe of course josh dobbs is not going to get a helmet because i don't think they changed their depth chart a quarterback and they are only addressed address to i have justin lane not getting a helmet because there have they have six corners and therefore he's he's the guy out of all of them that isn't as his NFL ready and i had a fourth one oh and isaiah bugs because even because they don't more than five defensive linemen and he's the bottom man man on totem pole until at some points he some point he would move ahead of of daniel mccullers that he's not going to be the case yet the last three of the ones that are up in the air check back into buying the steel curtain <hes> tomorrow morning for that article or the project inactive to see who you think are to see what what put out there trying to remember because i had to change job but there's a lot of different possibilities there so that was a great question. There's no man i forgot to tell people feel free to. I haven't seen any yet. I hope i didn't miss any earlier. If if you want your questions answered feel free to use the super chat feature where you can <hes> type in your question then hit the little dollar sign donate any amount of money. You went to the show you you do not need to do this but if you do i will make sure instantly. That's why i have my phone. Sitting here could get color coded on my phone but not here. I will see that question. I will bring up that the question and then i'll get back to the other one. So if you wanna use it that's great. Don't feel like you have to use your hard earned money for that i would. I'm okay with that. I'm not out here. Begging game for begging for money came here. Peter kay hill good question. I'm gonna try to get these fast. Get more of them. In just devon bush lead the team in tackles who ooh that's a good question. I'm going to say i'm gonna say no one will say no. I think he's going to have a lot of tackles but i think the patriots they're gonna pass the baltimore which could be with devon bush. I'm gonna guess i'm gonna guess. Terrell edmonds has the most tackles. I think he's going to be up in there to help. Stop the run and he'll be back in coverage to get tackles. Where what that well. Here's another one from dallas. Quanli will be a low scoring game. I took the under. I took the under the under keeps falling down to forty nine points points that i checked it. I have at the combined score is going to be under forty nine points. It was seventeen to ten last year in pittsburgh. I feel the both pittsburgh's pittsburgh's defense and new england's defense are better than they were at that point last year so therefore i think the indications go to a low scoring game and watch me have to come back back to do a podcast next week to answer why the world was the game forty five to forty three you never know but in my opinion i think it's going to be hello scoring game and with watching that game on thursday night if you could call it that where it was the final score was three it might be an indication of some of the stuff we have for the first week jeff hartmann article which which is on the website right now where we predicted every game against the spread and the over under we took an awful lot of k. Kevin wants to know how. I'm feeling about wide receivers. I'm feeling more about who's not getting a helmet. There is one possibility that i did talk about my article comes out. Tomorrow is what if what if the steelers choose to go with one extra wide receiver and one less tight end did did not dress not dress zach gentry that is something that could be a possibility because i think if johnny johnson is the guy right now. That's kind of in line did not get a helmets. If you want to compare johnson to gentry straight up i'm taking johnson all day and twice on sundays and since their games on sunday we'll take him twice. I'm i'm sorry i was bad joke but the question is position and that is they want to have an extra wide receiver and be tight end. I dunno okay. They asked <hes> we'll update. John return any kicks. I'm going to say no that was from aaron. Something i'm gonna say no because i believe that that he may not even be active for game day. Here we go cre- long <hes> big regular in the live chat how many interceptions it's actually get jeff. Brown told me i was crazy when i said that i i wanted to get six sacks the reason i want so many saxes. I think that new england's offensive line is not ready for the game not because they're not professionals but because they're kind of patch working things together especially at center right now. There's a lot of things that could be exploited there so i think the steelers could get that rush up the middle and get lots of saxe. I'd be happy with one interception. That would be really nice but everything everything above that would be a bonus so i'm gonna try to here. I'm going to try to get caught up here. <hes> thomas wants to know how many steps boswell take on kicks. I would say he he takes traditional three step drop so that's what we're doing i i. I'm afraid i could be lagging here some. I'm really sorry if that's going on because when i'm clicking on stuff here it's taking some time. I apologize so that's that's. That's the the best thing that i have to apologize for that. If it is breaking up again okay. I'm kind of skipping some of these questions. I do have a super chat question. That just came up here now. I gotta try to find it. Point was behind okay here. We go from from jake how he says. What's your take on ben's preparedness. This year versus the pats in comparison to last year well. There's two different ways. I could take that is a comparison to last year against the browns in week one one or last year against the pets because obviously he was more prepared last year for the patriots because it was in week fifteen so i'm assuming that you mean for week one. I'm going to say i. I have a lot more faith in that in ben's preparedness even just as the team because because i know the professionals but they haven't had a really big test i mean their biggest test was when they had to go into washington on monday night and they went in there trounce them pretty good but they've been playing cleveland the last few years where cleveland has not been very good right off off the bat so that could have been part of it. I think you when i liked the fact that their hardest game on paper before the season starts is their very first one 'cause. You've got to step up. You've got to go after it. You've got to see if you can get right off the bat so jake thanks for throwing five dollars and the tip jar. I appreciate that i'm going to go back a a little bit but i'm sure i'll probably skip over some stuff lots of people i liked how the people answering the questions in the live chat. Let's see okay. I'm kind of skipping and trying to keep stuff. That's pertaining to the game this week so here's one from jacob murphy. Do you think we can use holden as a gadget player like we did with spencer because of speed. I don't know if that's really his forte korte. I really don't know i think i think holden is more of a grinder that he's the guy that they have in there to take to go out and do the special teams stuff to do do the things that they might otherwise do so that's that's my opinion so using him as a gadget play and i know a lot of people like oh but they just signed him. He was on the practice squad all week practicing. They knew what they were doing. I have a feeling they knew on monday what they were doing with him so so he was part of the game plan. All along dallas has another question of has the best chance for an interception on thursday. My pick for the first interception for the year. I said was steven nelson awesome. I'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure i know jeff hartmann when joe haden and i think i'm pretty sure bryant davis davis what devin bush but i'm not sure <hes> here. This is a great question from mike. How many quarterback hits the defense get and the answer. Is it better be a lot. If you wanna win. You gotta hit brady. If he gets the ball away he gets the ball away. It'd be great to get the sax. That's why i wanted six six of them but i'll i will sacrifice sacks. I would sacrifice three sacks for an additional six hits. If you know what i mean if you could tell me we can get twice as many. It's if i give up not having many sacks. I'll take it because i think when you hit brady it's really going to get to <hes> <hes> so who started at safety against the patriots last last season so it was it was edmondson davis. They both played in that game because davis did he. I don't know if he exited game at all because i was at the game so it was a lot harder but he did not play. The following week was only game that he missed all season for sean davis so asking about the confidence in kelly or hilton i feel much better with sean davis just because the experience factor but i do believe especially with cam. Kelly kelly feels really like him but it's also going to be <hes>. It's going to have a lot to do with how he shows up in a game against the other teams once all game so the biggest thing is. I think this might be what they're going with. Watts kelly is a guy that's been in there. You gotta know what you're doing. You can't second guess. You can't have your paralysis by alice's. You've gotta know the calls. You can't blow the coverage. You're the last line of defense. You can't blow it back there. I'd rather have someone back there. That's not quite as good not quite as athletic but knows what they're doing one hundred percent of the time then someone that's back there. That's just all world athlete but they're going to give you four or five mental lapses in a game because at free safety a mental lapse very often leaves touchdown came so i'm trying to catch up here. I will grab a few more if we can. <hes> this is a good one from thomas white. What sheriff snaps do you expect between conroy. Samuel's i'm gonna go probably if jalen okay snaps snaps i was thinking carries it. I <hes> snaps interesting. I'm going to go that. It's at least i'm gonna say probably around seventy thirty when it comes to snaps. I think you're going to see i. I think you're gonna see samuels out there in some very situations especially if they could use them effectively as a pass catcher out of the backfield would not be shocked to see them both on the field the same same time so technically. It shouldn't be seventy thirty. It should be something that equals more than one hundred percent because if they're both out there at the same time that would be interesting. I'm just checking to see if there's any more <hes> someone did ask if abe could be on the sidelines and the answer is he cannot he cannot be with the team until he's officially a member of the team at the earliest on monday so still some people asked about that. Hey hey i'm spencer hall. I'm holly anderson. I'm ryan nanny. I'm jason kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script dip into riff on what that means and basically what i mean is this all already spoiled every tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle elsewhere. We also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want take college football exactly seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. Okay someone says goes from joel. Can you explain to me. I'll steelers were able to be so successful on the versus. The pats is last year. It's funny because i didn't so much the breakdown because i was at that game and to me they they. They got tom. Brady they made they made him uncomfortable in my opinion and they stayed true to their i mean they. They knew their roles they they they didn't they didn't have a mental lapses on defense so that's been known for early on in the season on defense defenses those mental lapses so that's kind of that's one thing about playing the patriots the first week the number of tackles from devon bush to end up with <hes>. Let's see let's go with. I'm gonna go with seven. I'd say he's going to be. I'll go him seven and edmunds eight. That might be kind of small but i think they're going to. It's going to be spread out a a lot of different people so i know there's an awful lot of questions coming through. I don't know who's going to sing the national anthem. I'm sorry sorry so. This has been really great. You guys have been all over this. You've talked. You've been able to have a chance to venture frustrations about the situations that happened today. It was a big emotional roller coasters steeler fan feeling that yes we did the right thing and in and trading a player away and then it's just kind of sad to see someone act like such a spoiled brat and get what they want as a parent i know when my when my child act spoiled to just give him what he wants and get his way okay then he's never going to learn and i'm fortunately i think that's what was what happened here today. I want to throw something else out there for those of you disappoint that no one asked the last time i did the podcast podcast in this room. I was given a hard time for the sheet in the background that was covering the bookcase because i didn't want people distracted by the books probably about the only thing you can read up there at the tim tebow book that i have have up there but i took it down that way. It wasn't someone but people asking some questions so i've got a few people will get the emails to you as soon as we're done here with the the link to get into the survivor pool like i said there's only about twelve. There was only twelve spots last. NFL lincoln there jumped in. I'm hoping that everyone had emailed me still gets. It's a chance also if you're interested in tickets to the steelers opener. Please email me. I would love nothing else. Since then someone that i know is the steelers fan coming from the site to be there for the home opener and all the festivities that would be fantastic so lots of funding lots of fun <hes> we will come. I one thing i'm gonna throw it on. A finish on. This question wasn't wasn't the last question that was brought up there but this is from thanks mean joe dave dave final score. Prediction is my score that i gave on the preview on thursday was for the steelers to win twenty six to seventeen and i was flipping our of the flip flop lower the place not knowing which one i was gonna pick. I kind of waited to see which way brian was going to go. I didn't want to be the only guy to on the show to pick the patriots but as soon as you pick the patriots i felt like i could put the steelers because this is a big game. There's a real big game. We'll see what happens. That's my score your prediction. This is me as a homer. I know remember. I'm a fan before anything else so lance product to act full akaphol search strategy that say that right aca full that is what got mr third and fifth for him to get his way so thank you all for tuning again this week for the steelers burning question. We'll be back next saturday. It probably won't be me because we're going to rotate. This could be lance. Williams could be brian. Anthony davis excuse me jeff hartmann. 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2020 NFL Draft Results: Breaking down the Steelers' 3rd round pick of Alex Highsmith

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2020 NFL Draft Results: Breaking down the Steelers' 3rd round pick of Alex Highsmith

"The Pittsburgh steeler fans what is going on this is Jeff Hartmann editor behind the steel curtain. Dot Com back again with you after the Pittsburgh. Steelers MAKE THEIR SECOND. Pick the day to twenty twenty. Nfl draft third round. They take outside linebacker. Alex highsmith talks Charlotte. And if you're like me you said who who who Pass rusher laterano leads. Williams is with me. Here is always the joining us now. Not Scofield but Brian. Anthony Davis Brian. What's going on and got the big board here I've got. I've got draft fever still and I'm loving this Alex Smith. Pick because here's the thing last year in the third round we got a Lotta whose when we picked the day Johnson through the Pittsburgh steelers so I subscribed to the fact that they know a whole heck of a lot more than I do. Yes okay so Moore's okay with the tag you're okay with the heck that doesn't mean that you necessarily liked it well here. Here's my thought on this. I was high on Bradley and I and I figured that would be the guy that they'd be looking at. I knew they were going outside. Linebacker edge rusher with this pick and the resigned. Knew they were going to do. That is because they've got a lot to choose from on offensive line Pretty early in round four and they've got an opportunity to get a defensive tackle or maybe safety around for so I'm thinking you need to address. Edge rusher right here and there's a couple of guys out there but with Bradley and I being the best one where they kind of like this guy a whole lot more than Bradley. I just because I haven't heard of doesn't mean that he's not good in twenty one tackles for loss and fourteen sacks are pretty sexy than me. Yeah and I I did see on. Espn when they made the pick that they quoted some clemson offense Lineman who said that he was one of the most difficult defensive players to block. They played all season. Now I don't know you can take that for what it's worth glands. What were your thoughts on the? We'll let me just read. CanNot can I read his strengths and weaknesses from the draft guide? And I'm looking at to give some background. It says he rushes low in quick getting underneath blockers and forcing them to overset introduces hips into the rush plan. Using subtle movements to get blockers moving introduced more pass rush moves as a singer. Year progressed punches. Low to high in an upward motion to work off bodies and find the football revving. Motor verse to Run. Us dealing with chippers. An extra attention looks comfortable in his feet when asked to drop instead of rush former walk on who is motivated and self made. Let me give you some more of his. Twenty nineteen stats. Seventy five tackles twenty one and a half tackles for loss fourteen sacks one forced fumbles three pass defense. Let me give you his weaknesses. And this is according to Dame brute where of the athletic cut up and takes care of his body but framing lanes aren't ideal for NFL Work can get lost in the washes. An edge defender needs to better see through. Blocks the line of scrimmage tends to flow with the action it abandoned his gap instead of reading. The backfield moved to move counter sequence in his rush requires maturing snap. Anticipation needs maturing. With four offside penalties in two thousand nineteen ago. That's the breakdown I I don't know if you were to stay like a gate if you heard of this player from the SEC. You're like yeah. I I think I've heard that guy might have seen him play at some point in time during a random Saturday that sat down to watch of five minutes of college football. I did not see Charlotte play at all this year. I did not know or they no no no. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I never saw. I never saw the Charlotte. Hornets let alone. Charlotte's football team. Nineteen seventy lance when you were watching the watching a southern university. Do you remember watching mail blond though not in nineteen seventy because I probably about six months of age? But your to your point. Their job is to Scout. Their job is to find these. Yeah absolutely. That's what I Appel. Everybody on the last show outing departments. It's a narrative pick in what day was saying as a lot of times you can their narratives that are out there when it comes to picks clearly. They're looking for depth at the position in another edge. Rusher so of this guy pans out he could potentially be but debris used to place a replacement because from a CAP perspective. There's different maneuvers. You can do with the captain. Get Space. Tj. Watch going to be the most expensive player in National Football League defensive side of football he is going to be the highest paid player. So do you want to allocate that much cap space to the outside linebacker position? Hopefully if this kid pans out you may not have to the other thing with Dupree. Probably gone he's going to have a chance to take that number three spot in audition for the job next year. He's he would be the man and waiting right away over Ola. Over to czar skipper to get that job if he can shine. I like it. Let me let me let me just say that. I never said like I said I didn't know the player and I don't know a lot of these players so that's nothing new. There's only one pick that I can remember that I I said on air to anyone listening. What a stupid pick and that would be a six round long snapper from the Louisville. How Ola Alba? Yeah slave select snapping and six I. I thought I was going to. They did what they told you. That the only time that I can remember in recent memory me saying I can't stand that pick and that was just because of the position had mighty who call in Hobo was But at the same time. I'm with you Brian. I trust this team. I trust this organization. I trust the Scouting Department to do the job to get. That did have that inside information to go after a guy from Charlotte that no one else has heard of So it'll be interesting to see. Paints Brian but I know you said you got to go. You have some work to do before you leave. I want to get your thoughts on their second round. Pick their first pick of the draft that each as playful where you a fan of that selection or not. Oh Canada's all I've got to say I am loving this guy and I tell you what is your day was putting on the spot. He's like thumbs up thumbs down. I said look any find out so I'm GONNA go like this. I think there was pointing up. Give me some time is like all right. We're GONNA bust on you like. He has bus on me with Dante. Johnson. Like No. You've gotta give me a second. I'm not saying this is bad. All I WANNA do is no a little bit more everything I looked at fell in love with this guy right away. I'm already thinking of that number. Eighty Three Jersey with Klay poll on the back. Because that's what this guy is going to be wearing. And the he is going to be a special player six four with that speed two-thirty and a speed of a four point four two and what I saw on tape on him fantastic. So I'm really excited and the entire time we were talking. I'm watching on the loop. Alex Highsmith here this dealers put out a tweet or something and I just clicked on it. It's him on a loop. It's not lackluster stuff. He really gets penetration and gets in there. You gotta knows it's not he doesn't get eaten up so I'm really excited about both picks so anybody that hates this pick so much. Don't wear the Jersey in three years when he's awesome and what will but what what number. What number did you pick Brian? He's always good for this. What did you say three eighty three? I don't think any why isn't why receiving niece number mainly wears eighty three now and it's I mean it's a it's been a couple years in Ben. Does that crap like gentry? Last year. Eighty three shot. You know angst. Let me give you some egghead stuff that you guys will find probably pretty boring. Just get stuff from watching film when guys were eighty three in their defensive guys. It's really hard to watch field because certain numbers you having your head that those are offense of guys he's talking about clay's not talking about talking about okay. Wide Receiver Klay. Full were eighty three. It'd be like man. I don't think I don't think I don't think in the NFL you can is outside linebacker. Where like in eighty three? Oh I wish I wish it was like college. And you can have a kicker where in sixty four just like. We're the number. You would aware it's really bad film though. I get really take you like five. Let's take a few plays to go because you see certain numbers so you just look at the position group so if you see like sixty four you're just looking defense of my whole life. You're not looking at anything else. But then when sixty four if like a sixty four was a corner you just be completely confused did it. The steelers have a quarterback that were twenty two probably in ninety one lane. Bobby twenty two okay. I was GonNa say Dick Shiner. Maybe him probably would. They were the only. That's an actual player by the quarterback for for Chuck Knoll. Yeah China's an actual Pittsburgh steelers player. You can look it up on. Not just being funny. That's his name Frank. Web is made up player. I've made it up here. Is there's a Ralph Webb? But I call him frank. Franklin lives was has been justice. Joe Seven puts ten dollars in the ninety nine and we appreciate that That but still before you go Bryan quick question. How does highsmith tie in with this? In my opinion when you're talking about training camp the out the deficit outside linebacker is going to be one to watch you have anyway. You have skipper in your Smith and those are to be behind. T. J. Watt and bud debris would I don't think they're gonNA keep all them so who's the odd man out to skippers? Probably the odd man out Broke the heart of steeler fans everywhere. You Know Yeah we love these guys and you know what one of the reasons we love these guys because Jeff we have so much. We have to write about so much. We have to talk about in June in work. Highlighting guys like who's our skipper. And Doc Hodges and we knew everything about those guys and the reason we knew everything about those guys before training camp because we had nothing else to talk about. So we're talking about these guys that had that had training minicamp tryout and made it through so what? I'm getting the all right landscape. I don't believe that don't believe bad listeners. He only likes skipper because of his last name. And it's a great last names of Gilligan's island that he's the skipper that's it. That's the only reason why likes you? Know we talked about this Guy Ad Nauseam because we we have to know the names of these guys and then we're we we go crazy at the end of August like this guy has to stick with the team. How could they cut him? Because I want to raise with Dante Spencer but at the end of the day were were crying over guy. The was the fifty fourth man on a fifty three man roster and couldn't stick around and keeps getting cut at the end of the day. That's not the guy you want starting for you not on C. Brian Thought you learned from me. I don't know many names and I get the wrong when I try to pronounce them so I don't know many names outside the starters and I get them wrong and I just came up with the Acronym Dash. Come on man. You guys gotta go dash. Just call those guys dash guys the guy very go. He's a dash he's a. He's fourth on the depth chart and to your question. Jeff you're always looking at in terms of the three pres pay Pedigree he doesn't have the pedigree and performance. None of those guys have the performance. And they're not paid very well so it falls down to pedigree you're gonNA air on the third round you're going give the third round. Pick the opportunity to prove which is the fourth p. That your evaluation is correct would is Jeff. Always say these guys do not want to be proven. And that's probably the fifty that they're wrong so they're going to give the drafting. The third rounder every opportunity to make them look and so I think you're right. I think skippers the odd man out because the pedigree just isn't high as well. I'm a ninety nine glad he's watching. Thanks Buddy I appreciate by some of your t shirts. Jeff printed up You might need you know I'm subscribing to the three learning Lance Lingo. So with that being said I'm going to go bone up on some lance lingo. Oh my gosh. You're killing me tonight. Brian with your euphemisms and everything. But let's get a great for me. Real quick highsmith grade. Would you give it? I'll give it a C plus all right. That's the best we can do. But I'm liking it all right thumbed up. I'm talking to you. Brian is able to talk to you tomorrow. All right we'll see you when you get a seventy five great jeff. That's enough to get a lecture from from from your mom when you own seventy five's not good. That's no desert. Some more people in the live chat here. I WanNa see what are what are the grades right now for the Highsmith? And don't give me the incomplete stuff you know like I'm a I'm a teacher okay. I don't want us to adds an incomplete because I don't know gotTa Give Great. You gotTA GIVE. A grade eight through. How're you grading it self segregate that now? We can't go distance learning okay. This is the Care Wacko. Okay no no no. All right. Grades are coming in a lot of C C plus bb plus a BS and people were saying a lot of upside to the grading on that. That's Fine D plus no APPS. I'm shocked there isn't anyone that's given a failing grade yet. See you see we got a pirate with Kyle. Smith Says Kyle Smith says let's be honest. No one here actually knows. I Love Bliss. Deathly I love Blake literal and I that his last name is literal and he gave it any plus we gotTA FM there. We've got a great in their ads. After I said here we go. Snowman puts five dollars tip jars. What's the next pick for the steelers? He's referring today three. They have two fourth round picks. No fifth round picks a six hundred thousand. So they don't make trays. They're going to end up with six new players that's it. So what do you think that you next lance? I'll think they gotta go inside linebacker. They have no depth that that position. I think they've gotta go inside linebacker and honestly. I think they've gotta go. I gotta go line. They're not young at that position. I loved the acquisition of Wisdom Sqi. But that's an old offensive line. I think they've got to get more athletic in the interior of that offensive line. But I think they've gotTA GET OUT I. I think they've got to get inside linebacker and safety. I think they've got to get some equality depth on defense when you look at the top eleven and you compare that defense across the National Football League top eleven. I mean they're they're as talented as gets will they have like seven eight earth round draft picks on? Defense? I mean they're loaded top eleven but man if days If they if they have some injuries there's some significant issues but I don't rule out the fact that they buy go out and get a free agent or two as well. They have to build the depth on that defense. So I'm looking at defense In his next couple of rounds yet it's going to be interesting offensive. Line is definitely a need safety. I agree with you inside linebacker. I agree with you inside linebacker though you said might be an area where they go the free agent route Kathy puts to WHO's left for the offensive line. I think the steelers are in my opinion proven. It can still find some pretty good offensive lineman later in the later Rounds Day. Three obviously where? We're looking at now Do I have specific players in mind? Not a specific player but to the fact that they're gonNA look for position flexibility. They're gonNA look for a guy that can play center and guard. I mean they're gonNA look for guys that can play a variety of positions if they take a tackle they're going to think that tax could play tackle and guard. They're looking at bill depth in youth in that offense of mine. The offense of mine has to get better you know during this Quarantining in staying at home sheltering in place. I've been watching a ton of runs naps. And it's just frustrating to see how ineffective they are running inside zone in just how much of an upgrade at the guard position they needed. What Ramon Foster? And how Ramon fosters lack of athleticism really impacted them in the run game so they needed injection of you there if they can find a bridge for when. Markey'S POUNCEY retires because Mark Markey's penalty is going to retire soon. He said that he does not WANNA play after. Ben Rothlisberger retires. You know. Correct me if I'm wrong. Jeff Pouncey is about year nine. Close the year ten penalties. Been there awhile well. He's a rookie in the two thousand ten season When we went to the Super Bowl when he got injured and didn't get to play and seibel forty five so yes. He began helping his ten season. I mean that offensive line is not young so whoever they take it. It's GONNA BE POSITION FLEXIBILITY. Think of a bj. Finney type guy that can play bogart spots or center spot think of a filer that could play a tackle orchid bump into guard. Think of a guy that can play multiple positions. Because you know they've got to inject some youth into that offensive line but I think they're going inside linebacker. Yeah I don't know it'll be interesting to see how they play this out. And if they make any trades that with my bold prediction was that they were GonNa make laundry. I was really expecting to be honest with you. I was expecting them to trade that trade their third round pick move back and acquire some more graphics but instead they go with hightower from Charlotte outside linebacker. Not a very well known player. But I'm sure we'll learn more about him in the coming days and weeks now a lot of this. Why love and I love and I hate this about the draft. You love it because everyone's there everyone's focus on it. Oh you know we had over two hundred thousand people view the site today because they're excited for the steelers to make a pig but at the same time you have that love the pick writer needed hated this. This is horrible lands in your opinion. How long do you have to? How long do you have to give a rookie class or a rookie player until you think you can give them an honest judgment of what they're able to do. I'M GONNA say three seasons if you're absolutely it'll show prior to that where if you're Juju type or if you're marquees county type or a Tj what you're Tj Water Benoit's been rothlisberger like it'll show earlier than that. But I think three years is the appropriate time in an evaluation because think of it this way the CVA says three years to CVA says three years we're GONNA contractually. We're going to agree as a players union and the League. That three years is enough. Time to evaluate a player before you give a player a long term contract. So I'M GONNA agree with that. I think it's three years. I think anything sooner than that is a little premature. So you know. But patience isn't part of steeler nation. It's not part of any nation in any national football league. Weather's only one team that has a nation and that actually steeler universe. Everyone else has nations. It's no steeler galaxy asked three years I think is the appropriate amount of time to evaluate a draft pick and Ginette means one. Terrell Edmonds is going into that critical year. But I'm being called out by Reginald rivers who said Lance. You gave a point now after one season. Well Hi Paul Direct foot. Let's just say this. Here's my hobby at. You should take three years to evaluate but sometimes there are certain physical traits would stand out. More all is to give these analogies. You're going out with a young lady and she hits on your best friend. Are you going to give her three months? Are you gonNA kick her to curb after that date Marconi? Oh my goodness I didn't have any snow is hitting on someone else's friend anyways. Some people suggesting possibility of bringing mark Barron back ETA cheaper price. He's been on the free market. No one has signed him. Would you be interested Nat considering you said that inside Linebacker is dire? I agree with you one hundred percent. I think it is no objections. Their snowman is giving me the business given up Lance Just because I save three years. I'm trying to clean up for myself just because I saved three phase saving plan. What is Mike Tomlin say about the? Nfl what does the NFL? It's moving strain right. Is trying to jump onto the moving train right? Just because I say three years does not mean you're GONNA get three years and so you have to prove it as soon as you can. And so you have to make an impression coaches in games in practice immediately and I would love. Barron came back. He knows that defense if you can get him back on the cheap it adds depth the inside linebacker position and he can play inside Pakistan defense. So this is something I wanted to bring up anyways in. These shows are not gonna be as long as our typical shows but someone asked the question Jeff how big is the gap between the Ravens and the steelers? Now let me first start off by saying that in two thousand nineteen even without Ben Rothlisberger. I don't think the gap was as far as people might believe Think back to week five when they took the game to overtime and probably should have won that game. I think we've stages they've been played in that game. Hacky Mason Rudolph plays in that entire game. That was a game. He left the concussion win that football nonetheless they don't and Here we are. Ravens seemed to pick every other time. I look at the television. They it's Ravens or picking. I mean they've gotten a million compensatory picks so what are your thoughts on that in terms of the gap between the steelers and the Baltimore. Ravens will you know? I'll take every opportunity to knock the Cincinnati Bengals so I think the gap between the steelers and the Ravens is about the length of one of Joe Boroughs fingers and since he has small hands. The gap is it very big. I don't think the gap is huge If you look at the first game that they play like Jeff said once they get at Cana acclimated to what Baltimore was trying to do offensively. They really beat up. Lamar Jax Before that playoff game against Tennessee I thought they played Lamar Jackson better than almost any defense in the national football league. They were right there in that game the corner from Baltimore made a fantastic play. Causign the fumble with Juju. But they were right there in that game and I don't think I don't think the gap is great. I think they just have more depth at certain positions in the steelers. But I think the steelers still defense is better. Their offense has better but I think with Big Ben backed by being. I think the gap was really closed between the two teams but I would say all slightly better. Cayden puts a dollar ninety nine in the tip jar. Appreciate that he says. I think that steelers should go after four net and we talked about that in the last show and I think that'd be a good move. I KINDA WANNA go off on a tangent and a little bit. It's tied to this Baltimore sealers. Okay everyone that. Everyone of the steelers picks there are people that are say horrible. Pick the wasted pick. It was it was. This was that it was the other whatever that was an all these steeler fans May. Where's your pride? Okay I'M GONNA say these names. Maybe I should commenting ravens easily. Beat us the Ravens easily in the draft so far queens a monster. J. Cable run with a chip on his shoulder because he passed him. He says even gets the football that much. I mean there is Mark Ingram there unless they cut him at didn't know about it. You're wrong lands. The Ravens are killing us with young talent ravens ownership so pissed off the early exit lighting a fire under people with all the sun. Come on people you are killing me. Wailing me you forgetting that the Pittsburgh steelers have an easy lead. I will say it again in the lead defense elite even without even without this third round. Pick okay elite. Every not looked talked about the improvements on the offense. Yeah you WANNA talk about guard okay. Move filer to guard. If you have to. You can still probably get a tackle or you have some tackles. That are some people like the tackles of the have. We just talked earlier on the show about after the draft Chase Clayton while they have a legit four wide receivers now not dimension there too tight ends in yes running backs we know that the history there but come on fans what is going on and when you are sitting there saying Whoa is me. The Ravens are so good look at their Come on I live in Maryland people. I have to deal with these idiots. Every single day of my life do not fold up like a cheap launch hair. And just say well. It's been fun. Good Luck Ravens. In Twenty Twenty on columnist one season. No no no no. The steelers will be fine. If Ben Rothlisberger is fine period period added Reverend Dr Heart. I'm sorry I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry I can't I live here. Ideal these morons every day. I can't stand when steeler fans act like this and they act like willows me. We took this guy never heard of him in the Third Round. So we stink. And they're so good. I knew who? Jk Dobbins was so therefore. I'm upset because they didn't get come on. Come on people this franchise. I stick super bowls. Act SORRY GO AHEAD LANDS. Wow PREACH WHEREVER AGENCY. A man preach reverend heart to good. Reverend Dr Hartman. So the gay. I'm sorry revved Hartman. Love it and this is rare. Would win the good reverend. Dr Jeff Hartmann makes his way to the pool pit and says wow. I love it when you got love it. I love it. Jeff when you got anything else now. That's it for now that it it's GonNa come back. I've sure because the ravens have fifty pigs in the straps though sermon in he lets you know when the good reverend how when he does see is late. Late in the east goes is like midnight. Instant next day actually is Friday for me. It's Saturday you for the Good Reverend Dr Hartman. His call to alter steeler fans. It's a call to alter. And I like Shaw McMahon. I can't agree with that entirely. But I'd like to send him it and I think when Ben Rothlisberger back by Biggby B and we're you know we're anticipate Dan Rothlisberger is going to come back and be who he is and we've been rothlisberger in a fold. It changes everything. Everything changed is that that's a very different football team. But Jeff Man. I love it when you go. Reverend Dr Heart Yes right I. It doesn't happen often doesn't happen often but I'm sorry there are sometimes I just can't take it I can't take it I'm sued. We're we're still fan. That's people need to remember. Were still fans. I'm not I'm not paid by the steelers. Okay I'm here to give my opinion on what I think and I I'll tell you what I trust. I trust the steelers I do. They haven't given me a lot of reasons to not trust them if they're going to spend a third round pick on this guy. Did they see something that I don't guess why because I haven't seen anything this guy I know who he is just because I knew? Jk Dobbins is because he played. That guy fell for a reason. Saying I love. I Love Rodney Lyles. Pass a Hartman. That's how you sell it a s Hartman has a Hartman Reverend Dr Pasa Hartman. I love it. I Love Jeff. I love when when when my inner she passes to you and you can save everything that I'd like to say it. I could be the good guy that does not have to be the hater. I love it when we can switch hats so good. My my sentiment wasn't hating. My sentiment was just frustration frustration with the fan base that some kind sometimes can be so spoiled in so fickle at the same time. I don't get it. It's let's see all plays out but to see how it plays out. There were people last year last year. Sutton Smith everyone was like. This guy is going to be the next. James Harrison didn't make the team his Smith who exactly who asked the traditional Pittsburgh man. I love it. We're not draft guys. But I love it in Pittsburgh and I love that about fan bases in the national football league is everybody gets so excited about the unknown and it just gives you hope and gives you something to look forward to but you know fortunately I mean probably still consider these guys get a love. I'll let you read that. You Mama Dali Says Jeffs Twenty. Six kids are scared in a corner and now my kids are all asleep and that didn't wake them up either. I was wondering across the House hoping it didn't need it. So my son still asleep but still hey the st would make the pick. I trust the steelers and We'll see here. We go to a tip jar. From Jay's do you think makeup we'll separate himself even more yes a year in the system year with Terrell Edmonds basically. I think he's taking steps forward. And you might say is that even look like it's GonNa look amazing is what it's GonNa look light. You know so. I think that you know. I don't see a big shoutout to Muhammad out. I don't know if he's celebrating. Ramadan but You know happy Ramadan him. If he's celebrating Ramadan so happy Ramadan to him. But Yeah I think you know the and that's the one thing is would mean Mingka's divest pick in the first round so the steelers draft is already excellent. They've got the best player in the first round. It's make fitzpatrick with eighteen taken draft. And he's only GonNa get better. Ben Rothlisberger changes all of this And so you do have to be more positive did I typically am And some of this. You have to look at it in terms of you know the position groups to try to replace bolster and look at the roster and what you think it'll look like in twenty twenty one you know we think that this pick is probably but debris the place replacement but what will happen next year is if he doesn't play well they'll draft another guy that's what the NFL is and you know nobody will remember this guy. He'll be on a rookie contract and that'll be it. Well you know the funny thing is are people looking at. The browns picks and the Ravens picks a man look at their traffic. So maybe people aren't looking at Pittsburgh and saying Oh man I can't believe their draft. That looks great. You know what? Let him overlook them because in my lifetime when the steelers are not the favor team when the steelers are the underdogs on the steelers are the no one's giving them a chance that's typically in my opinion when they play their best. So that's Mike. Tomlin loved the play that card and he loves to play that card. He lives off that Card Reverend. The good reverend is hot. That's the call to alter when he's calling you to all Altered to confess your sports sins so if you have a confession to make before we conclude the program please make the altar call in confess your sports particularly your Pittsburgh steelers. Sports in just confessed it. You didn't think that the steelers were going to win that big game and they did. I know all of you guys have some guilt out there. You thought they were GONNA lose to this team. But they didn't and they actually won. You thought they were going to lose to the Patriots couple of years ago. And what are they do? Joe Haden gets the interceptions you could feel guilty. And the Reverend Good Dr Jeff. Hartmann is trying to let you relieve all of that. Get it out I got it out. I'm good I'm good so we have a lot of we. We have a lot of shows coming up. I don't know of Lance will be with us tomorrow on Saturday but you. I'm hoping to have a similar four. I'm here and I like. I like eye opener having a similar format today tomorrow Saturday that we had today day two and I really like how Bryan and Dave came on prior to the pick they then went into. You know who could be available? They said the pig lance and I maybe someone else came back on. What's so funny lands. We laugh at Mohammed. Ali said I have a confession to make. I thought already writing. You got that off your chest you you let me give you. Let me give you a confession that I have for the steelers. I thought the steelers would never win a world championship would bill cower as the head coach after watching them lose. F. Championship Games in every which way but loose and never thought they would win a championship with Bill. Cowher as the coach I was absolutely done. I was just events if they got to the AFC championship game. Somehow he would figure out a way to lose the game in after they lost to the Patriots. O-on I was in the dumps at just had no faith no belief that the Chin would bring them to a ring. Yeah he did and he did here. We go Jon. Trott will give them more in here. He says pursued dollars in tips are thank you very much for your contributions. He's what are the Chances Ulysses Gobert the third takes William Spot. I don't think he takes his. I think he could still be is. He is very athletic. He is very fast when he's healthy and he's read. I read an article recently about him. Re having his back he should be good to go for. Twenty twenty maybe. He's that special sub package linebacker that they would put in there if they take Williams off the field so maybe they have in house will see. No one really knows so there you go. The ears with him is that the young man is extremely athletic. Yes yes so. Hey fingers crossed maybe again. This is a situation like Brian talked about the beginning of the show. The steelers are up to date with his Rehab. They know what he can do. They've seen him in practices. They they've met with him. He's been in their system for a whole year so they don't take an inside linebacker maybe is because they say well. We don't really need inside linebacker because we have. Us's Gilbert we really like him we think he could be that guy for us. Those are things that were not privy to fat so they agree with Darwin Nolan. There was no way that the steelers could have beaten in two thousand one eight hundred team. They were cheating. I'll never forget that as his quote APP Today. Game where he did. It's like they knew the plays before we even random them and they did know the back so you want me to close it out Jeff. Yeah let's close it out. It's been a day. We'll we'll see everyone back here tomorrow and is always tune in tele friend and subscribe go steeler nation Amen. We'll see you tomorrow.

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Yeah, I Said it: To all Steelers fans, I am not a hater

Behind the Steel Curtain

10:00 min | 1 year ago

Yeah, I Said it: To all Steelers fans, I am not a hater

"Welcome back listeners to another episode of year. I said it is always a show is being hosted by your Shirley. Lance Williams also wanna give a big shout to my co host of the standards, the standard and editor of behind still curtain dot com. Jeff Hartmann, when give being shot up to Brian Athey Davis, who's bad and Dave Scofield, fellow podcasters under the behind the curtain dot com umbrella. If you want to check out the program, make sure you hit up Google podcasts. Apple podcasts, Spotify Stitcher. Do a search for behind still curtain dot com or do a search for Steelers and you will find the show on this particular week's episode of year. I said it the name of this week's program is simply, I'm not a hater. I get a lot of flack from family. A lot of people who call me off script off wax who criticise me it say. That I hater let me give you the definition of a hater this is according to urban dictionary big up to those guys over there. A hater is a person that simply cannot be happy or another person success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person. Now, let me give you the definition of a critic, a critic is one who expresses a reason opinion on any matter, especially involving a judgment of its value. Truth, righteousness, beauty or technique. Example, critics of the new law say that it will not reduce crime. And this is the merriam Webster dictionary dictionary since eighteen twenty eight. Here's the second definition of credit one who engages often professionally in the analysis evaluation or preciado of works of art or artistic performance. So now that I've giving you the definition of a hater and a critic, what do you think I am actually, let me give you another definition, or an example of a hater. And it's also urban dictionary. The sentence reads, you know Kevin from accounting is doing very well. He just bought a house and a very nice part of town. Jane or me, if you think I'm a hater what respond the following, if he's doing so, well, Wasi drive at eighty nine Taurus, that sheet is busted. Now you've heard examples of a hater you heard examples of a credit. Would you think I am listeners? I think I'm a critic my job as a podcast, her is to keep it to and give it to you real. I'm gonna give it to you, but what you're going to do with it. I'm gonna give it to your will. That's my job. My job is to not be like Jeff pick up to Jeff Jeff aka joy if you listen to the standards standard the flagship podcast of behind, so current dot com. You know Jeff is joy, and I'm paying Jeff as the turnover optimist. Glass is always half full. I'm the critic glasses half empty. So you either like Jeff where it's nice and sweet it good. She and will check each to well the anything that's too sweet and Gucci or you like the critic where my commentary. My flow is type acidic. You see how busted that. Ryan critic acidic. You know what's happening? So. What am I d you am? I hater or am I credit? Let me read you comments from a poster that posted a couple of weeks ago. And I urge all you guys can you to post and give your feedback? You are the life blood of the site and of the program, he wrote the following. Well, Jeff, you can start with the number one pessimist your friend and co host land. Jeff, ain't my friend. I just want put that out there. I'll really like Jeff Jeff as my friend. I'm becoming a hater and two other fans in the rest of the writers accept my apologies nearly every one of his lances podcast is negative the most recent after picking up Moncrieff, who will have a chance to show his skills that he show with Andrew luck and drafting Swiss army knife at wide receiver DRP Johnson. And with the returning players, including juju. He still thinks the position as a weakness when is clearly improvement. Now. I'm not the only person that thinks losing white possibly a first ballot hall of Famer, the best wide receiver in the last five years, the best wide receiver as he was called by been rothlisburger. Is it a big deal that's called being critical? To suggest that Moncrieff in a rookie won't make up for that production. That's not Haiti that's being critical. I love the Steelers too much, and I love you guys too much to not give you my real unfiltered. Unadulterated. Keep it funky. Keep it real opinion just to speak on that. That's a weakness. It's a weakness AB juju strip Deontay question, Mark Johnson, Moncrieff question, Mark Moncrieff juju is a weakness in comparison. If I'm not being a good critic. I wouldn't point that out to you. But because I love the Steelers. Have a fantastic analyst mall collar. Blink pop pop. I have to give it to you real. I can't be like who's bad? I can't be like, Brian Anthony tapes or Jeff or those guys are just, you know, on the optimistic chart, they're probably fifteen I'm probably three. So call me a pessimist is fair, I think kinda sorta iden- to call myself a realist or a critic. But if you look at the urban dictionary, definition of a hater hating the result of being a hater is not exactly jealousy. The hater doesn't really want to be the person here. She hates rather the hater wants to knock someone else down or notch. I don't wanna knock the Steelers down a natch. I'm just bringing in giving you the information as is. I see. This guy. I the critic I'm the one who engages often professionally in analysis or evaluation. Trust me. And I'll guaranteed if you guys were in a meeting group or a meeting room with the coaches. Trust me. They give it to a real day, not super optimistic it rosy. Because the eye in the sky does not lie. See, that's one of my other nipsy. Russell is that's another one of my skills that I have. And if you've listened to the standards standards are used to give you my nips his because I'm an MC, get down on the Mike. Not come out is so again, I'm not a hater. I'm merely a critic. I vite you guys to be critics and at allies and assess my performance as I do these year. I said it's. I think the Steelers wide receiver group is a weakness, particularly in comparison as to what it is. But moving forward, I'm keep giving it to you real with. I'm keep giving it to you rawal give it to, you would know trivia, where like, straight from Bolivia. You got we'll take clan. I'm gonna give it to you like big daddy Kane data give into you 'cause I always you as fans and a Steeler nation. They give you the best the most exact in the most pointed analysis before I conclude this show, I'm recording this show Memorial Day, and with that I want to give honor to all of the following veterans, I wanna give honor to everyone who has lost their lives in service of this country. Thanks to you guys. Without you guys, I couldn't do this. I couldn't freely. Give my opinion and give you my thoughts when a Pittsburgh Steelers. I hope all of you guys by the time you eat, as you listen to the show, you will have eaten, you would have eaten a ton of food or Memorial Day, you'd have taken a host of Tom's and all that good stuff. And you got over all that aunt asset. And all that. Tom dot com. Dumb dumbs stuff that you need. Hope you guys had a fantastic column. It week. We love you as a passionate love. We're gonna keep giving it to you. We go to keep doing it. Real funky. And our love Jefferson, who's fad Daves, go filled autos guys, they are fantastic. But with that will conclude the program, and as always tune in Tele friend and subscribe.

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Breaking News: Steelers vs. Titans Week 4 game postponed to later in the season

Behind the Steel Curtain

10:02 min | 2 weeks ago

Breaking News: Steelers vs. Titans Week 4 game postponed to later in the season

"Pittsburgh steeler fans what is going on? This is Jeff Hartmann Co editor behind is JOE CURTAIN DOT com, and if I sound a little down in the dumps, it's four reason. This is another breaking news podcast I feel I should have some music that just plays you're done. Something like that. Maybe I'll do that the next time. But if you haven't heard the news yet here, I am breaking the news to you in audio platform that is. The Pittsburgh steelers in Tennessee Titans game those scheduled for week four and we all thought was just going to be postponed to Monday or Tuesday. Even after reports said that CBS in the National Football, League were preparing for a nationally televised game on Monday or Tuesday. Not Going to happen. At least not this week, it's going to happen, but they're postponing until later in the year, we have not had any verification of exactly what is going on as it pertains to the schedule moving forward. Are they going to adjust weeks? They are not sure but let me read to you the official statement. From the National Football League and what it says as pertains to what happened because this is a ripple effect from Tennessee Titans Organization, who after their Wednesday round of tests had two more positive tests a here we go. This is the official NFL statement on the steelers titans game quote the Pittsburgh Tennessee game scheduled for week four will be rescheduled to later this season after one additional titans player in one personnel member tested positive for Covid nineteen today, an announcement of the new game date will be made. Shortly, the decision to postpone the game was made to ensure the health and safety of players coaches in game. Day personnel the titans facility will remain closed in the team will continue to have no in person activities until further notice. So what does this tell us? This tells us that they're going to be making an announcement soon as to win, the game will be made up, but in regards to exactly when it's going to happen no one knows no one really knows. So it's a situation where it's fluid. they have options. are Dave Scofield. Provided. One of those options, right after the news broke that they were postponing the game from Sunday to Monday or Tuesday and that was. The steelers have their by we can we re Dave wrote in his article in the NFL if the NFL needs to postpone this week's game, there is a way to make it work by only affecting one other NFL franchise I. The steelers and Titans do not have the same by week's simply moving the game. There is not an option the Titans Bhai Week is in week seven while the steelers by occurs in week eight, the steelers week seven opponent is the Baltimore Ravens who just so also happened have a bye week eight. It is possible. The steelers could face the titans in week seven instead of the Ravens in move their matchup in Baltimore to the following week this means the steelers and titans would both have buys this coming week in week four and the Ravens by week would simply be shifted. From week eight to week seven. It seems like if you're a betting person that this would be the best case scenario for. In easy fix. If there is such a thing as an easy fix, this would be it but you gotta if you're honest with yourself and I'm honest try to be as honest as I can be with you the fans on audio platforms or wherever my goodness. This is frustrating because now you look at the Pittsburgh steelers, they had a week eight bye week in I've always said that's kind of like the perfect the I deal by week right in the middle of the season. The it's perfect is smack DAB in the middle give them a good break get healthy for the stretch run. That's awesome. That's exactly what should happen. NOPE now now now, if everything goes according to plan it in our own Michael Back in our slack channel, he suggested well, what if they have a week eighteen? So they extend the playoffs. There's a little bit more of a Ray Guy said, they're not gonNA give the team like the steelers they're not gonNA give them an edge up. They're not gonNA give them to byways. You're not gonNA the titans by weeks now. The difference between the Titans and the steelers is at the Pittsburgh steelers they they've been preparing for this game they've been practicing they've been in the in the facility doing workouts. So if they take a bye week now, I mean it's not going to hurt them in any stretch of the imagination. But if you think about the titans, they can't do anything right now they can't be in the facility they can't be anywhere. In Person. It's the situation where the Pittsburgh steelers now knows what's going to happen next. No one knows what the next step is. It makes sense to just alter one others. Other teams schedule. But at the same way. It is what it is. Here's a couple of comments from twitter Albert breer of the Monday morning quarterback says, this does suck for the steelers they're halfway through a normal workweek in. So the by has been bastardized completely no play thirteen weeks in a row coming out of it. But this is sort of what everyone signed up for playing this year Sam farmer of of the La. Times he says, if this counts as a bi week for the steelers and titans that's bad news. For both they already have worked part of the week. So this is a true week off. It makes a hell of a long season with no breaks for to Reno teams planning to play deep in. January. Sam also says an alternative to making the steelers and titans take by week. This early is tag on an extra week. After the end of the regular season, the NFL is considered this in remember only one team per conference gets a playoff by this year with the expanded playoff format. So. It's going to be really interesting to see how this pans out in there. So many different areas to take a look and see what's happening and it's It's just it's strange. It's crazy. We all knew that this had the potential of happening everyone. Knew it everyone knew that? Honestly I. If you're like me, I thought was too good to be true I three weeks. I mean when you had training camp in the steelers have players Jalen Samuels trying to think of all the other players that were on that list at some point James Washington was on that list a couple of others that had tested positive one way or the other Most of those players at least Samuels in Washington said they were ace. Symptomatic meaning. They did not have any type of symptoms at all and it wasn't until we find out from. Mike Gravel that the Tennessee titans players that have tested positive. They have had symptoms they have been sick. They've had flu symptoms, and so they're they're definitely feeling this covid nineteen thing inside their locker room in they're gonNA continue to do their testing because if this runs rampant throughout their locker room in other players continue to test positive. That's bad news for that organization and not only that it's bad news for the NFL, the NFL would have to really figure out how they're going to do. This is where the protocols come into place. This is where you have to understand exactly what's happening. In. That's a long sordid podcast that I don't WanNa do right now. Are you need to know right now is there's no steeler game. This week we four, it's basically a wash next up is week five at home Heinz field against the Philadelphia Eagles so. Whether you like it or not this, the NFL's decided to do, but they're still more news to come. The Pittsburgh steelers will be told when they'll play the Tennessee titans. The NFL said that should be coming out shortly I would assume that it will be coming out shortly I would assume that right now if they're doing the week seven method that they would be notified Ravens right now that there are altering their schedule, they're notifying the steelers and the titans and this decision should be out sometime later this evening in which case if that does happen, we'll be back for another podcast I. Don't know if it'll be a breaking news podcast review here later. In another show. We sincerely apologize other we didn't know I. Mean we gave you all titans content the know your enemy podcast. 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Yeah I Said It: If you want to crown the Steelers, then crown them

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Yeah I Said It: If you want to crown the Steelers, then crown them

"Want to know more about what your favorite Ninjas have on their minds check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any Ninja Warrior fan welcome back listeners to another episode of the program Graham. Yeah I said it come into you prime time on a Friday evening if you're in the east coast. I'm sure you are her. Drop your drink in tuning into the program immediately. If you're on the left coast I'm sure you are no longer watching major league baseball because you WanNa hear me and you WanNa hear my opinions about the Pittsburgh steelers and I am glad that you have joined the program but like we didn't last last week show. I'm going to ignore the live chat so I can get through what I want to get through then I will get to your questions. Please take advantage of the super chat feature and then I'll go through the Super Chad. If there's any super chats I'll go through those and try to find them and then I'll rewind the questions in the live chat trat and try to go through the questions before I jump into the program when I give a shout out to the editor in chief of the Website Jeff Hartmann also my my co host of the Standard Standard and the website is behind the steel curtain dot Com WanNa give him a shot to the Oracle Dave scope. Oh believed Dave is the assistant editor or editor number two or whatever the title is also want to give a big shout out last but not least a blind Anthony Davis who's been hey brian at do not wear another do Japanse. Please do not another dudes pants. I'm so if you guys have seen the video where Dave tries to be a place kicker in tears his hamstring but I think it's out there somewhere you know on Youtube. You guys can find that video but the funniest thing about that video is jeff has the cool glasses. I think the the purple tinted shades on Jeff trying to be Jeffey Gay but anyway but that's hilarious video if you've never seen it but the title of this particular program is called simply yeah I said it if you WanNa crowned around the steelers then crown them that's my own osh to Dennis Green when he had the famous statement about about the Chicago bears when his team lost to them and the reason I wanted to bring this up in all of this because after the Pittsburgh Irk steelers beat the Cincinnati bungles. I've heard playoff talk. Let me just say that again to give after the steelers beat the Cincinnati Bengals I've heard playoff talk and reason I've heard playoff talk is because of the records you don't end the division and and when you look at this you look at the division look at the NFC north and you you see a Baltimore Raven team that has only beat teams that don't have wins. They stand it to you. Got The browns at two into you got the steelers at one one in three in the bungles of course at Owen four and of course with a victory. If the steelers were to win on Sunday they rewrite back in the mix considering that the browns have a very tough game. I believe it's on the road against the San Francisco Forty niners and that's why people are talking talking about playoffs when it comes to the Pittsburgh steelers but let me just say this again. If you WANNA crown them then crown them yeah I said it if you want to crown the steelers then crown them and if you're talking about playoffs with this particular team you're absolutely a Fan. I'm a fan but I'm a slight fanatic and we all know that fans stands for fanatic but when you add a sprinkle of black and gold it didn't borders on delusional. I don't know if you guys saw the the joker but that's what that's what it looks like. Straight Delusional. Let me poor little water on isn't just simply say the steelers is beat. A winless team in the bungles and people are talking about the play offs and doing their best Jim Mora impression Russian playoffs. You're talking about a one in three team and you're mixing in playoffs. Let's just throw some water on that and let's just say can we pump the brakes and like the got him see rock him like he said back in the day can we you just relax with pep did it. I'm relaxed with PAP. Did it relax with pep for my hip. Hop as back there you you know the guard him see rock and relax with pep. We should just all relax. Can we just pipe down just just a bit. Can we relax with pep. Can we just she'll just a bit calm Adele. How can we just chill. Let me give you three reasons. Why if you WANNA crown the steelers then the crown the number one and this might be the biggest reason why trying to talk about playoffs in the steelers you guys is a crazy number one. The head coach doesn't believe in Mason Rudolph and let me give you the evidence because it's it's in the quotes from the head coach now. Let's take a look at the game plan before I give you the quote in the victory against the bungles. The game plan included six passes that travel less than a yard six. I didn't even you know you can throw a pass less than a yard. In seven direct snaps two running backs of Rudolph Twenty Twenty eight pass attempts only three travel more than ten yards in ten were thrown behind the line of scrimmage in the two games of his seventy four attempts. This season twenty six have been thrown behind the line of scrimmage now. I don't even know if you can use thrown amp behind the line of scrimmage together. You shouldn't maybe it should have been maybe should be tossed not thrown look at those numbers that suggest scream the head coach does not have trust in the quarterback that he does not believe him and he does not believe that. Mason Rudolph is the Guy Right now. I'm saying right now not necessarily in the future but right now in the Senate is entitled if you want to Crown the steelers then in clown them meaning. Why are you talking about the playoffs right now when the head coach doesn't believe in Mason Rudolph let me give you the quote the Tomlin said after the game sometimes of bunch of exposure isn't good exposure in other words. We don't trust us that do the rest of the quote. I thought it was helpful to him to chew up some of those snaps and limit some of his exposure to the defense while putting the ball in the hands of some capable men meaning if we just let him continue continue to dink and dunk and throw the ball or toss the ball behind the line of scrimmage. He can't get us be we. We don't really trust his do so we just going to ask him to execute a very simple game plan that does not expose him exposed the football or expose the steelers expo sure. Is it good stuff. Sometimes a bunch of exposure sure is a good exposure meaning. I don't trust this do or believe in him right now. You can't win football games moving like that in trying to move the ball like that and passing like that because because number two just like tricks for kids and lucky charms are magically delicious gimmicks only get you so so far in football period if you think the steelers rollout that type of game plan and win or like that is sustainable sustainable. There's no way they can win football games and because of that if you wanNA crown dealers then crown them you can't talk about play offs when the offense that was used to win. A football game was built on gimmicks tricks are for kids hits in Lucky. Charms are magically delicious. Let me give you the quote coach. Tomlin I acknowledge that the wildcat is somewhat gimmicky we did we had to do to win that game with the given circumstances and the players available to us meaning it was a gimmick and because Mason Rudolph was the guy we did what we head to do given the circumstances and the players available to us. I don't know if you heard about about show years ago. Well actually not years earlier this year the use of pronouns and referring to a person without saying their name directly the player or players he's talking about is Mason Rudolph which goes back to my number number one reason why if you want to crown the steelers then cloud them. The head coach doesn't believe in the quarterback. Let me give you other quote to. Thomas said you can't run it. Every week referred to the wild car. I acknowledged it could be different against against the Ravens. I acknowledge it could be very different quite frankly on what you saw Monday night. We are in a fragile state right now and and we need to do whatever we need to do to move the ball and win football games that's great and that's what they should be trying to do but the fragile state is because of number one the head coach doesn't believe in Mason Rudolph Look at the game plans look at the fact that they had to rely on Gimmicks to try to win the game. That's why I'm saying relax with tapped bid it. I'm relaxed pep better like the God rock him said you gotTA relax with pep but if you wanNA crown them them meaning the steelers see the use of the Pronoun then crown them but you can't crown a team and if the head coach doesn't believe in he and you're relying on gimmicks like tricks and for kids and lucky charms or magically delicious. It's you can't rely on untrustworthy quarterback in gimmicks and lasting in the last biggest reason reason as to why if you WANNA crown them then crown home just because some basic stats Duro Gore for nineteen points a game before this game against the bungles. They were averaging sixteen. They can't run the ball. They're evidence sixty five yards yards per game and you heard the quotes and I just gave you that. Mike Tomlin had to say about Mason Rudolph you got a quarterback saying that but join run for sixty five yards per game twenty nine to the NFL you're only averaging three point four yards per carry twenty eight hundred twenty seven thousand. Nfl you think sustainable you got a rookie quarterback that they'd rather have kicked the ball or a second year player that they'd rather have kit to bought auto people or the line of scrimmage or toss it and throw it down. He'll throw it out so you can't run the ball. You're only converting in terms of your third house. Our offense you twenty seven thirty two national football league. You can't run it. You'll only averaged nineteen quarterback that you don't trust to throw the ball past the line of scrimmage but a couple of times halen chicks and for kids kids and lucky charms or magically delicious so as always if you listen to the show. Jeff is joy. I'm Tom Paine. I'm trying to throw a whole bunch of water on this pump. The brakes relax with pep because if you WANNA crown around him you can crowd them. What I'm trying to tell you is don't crown them yet. Relax with PEP like Rockingham this team ready. This team is just not there yet. They had to win. We gimmicks and I even talk about the defense. The defense play well against the run against Cincinnati. They get after the quarterback but we saw the previous three games their struggle with defending the run and they're going up against a team in the ravens that are going to pound them. It is going to be mono. No Milo type football check out the American Ninja Warrior podcast for behind the scenes. Look at all the action of the show and more with your favourite competitors. Listen subscribe wherever you get your podcasts look. y'All relax with pep relax with pep. Just joy what it is. This is a rebuild enjoying for what it is temper your expectations if you wanNA crown steelers crowning crowning but they are what we thought they were a rebuilding team one that has to grow and one that is going to have a high level of variance in their performance because of the quarterback namely and because as they can't run the ball and they have not yet demonstrated that they are bullies on both sides of the line of scrimmage. It's a work in progress. I but a work in progress Nathan has a positive way to Nathan Smith of saying rebuild rebuild. I know that's a bad word in Pittsburgh. I notice a bad word in Pittsburgh but relaxed with pat just just just just to just relax relax with tab but let me jump into because we got a twenty dollar question from Anthony Johnson awesome in the live chat. Let me jump in here and I bought the jump into the live chat questions. 'cause I'm sure you guys got a lot of questions because I was little horror steelers but look the football football team has rebuilding. It's a week to week proposition. You got a quarterback that the that the head coach does not trust the head coach does not trust the the quarterback they had to go to gimmicks. The gimmicks will not work again. They're going to have to dominate on both sides of the line of scrimmage to win games consistently assistant that that's that's what he has to do. Let me jump into Anthony John's question random question but it's been bothering me a bit. Thank you Anthony for the twenty bucks the question. Does this assistance that the the steelers barely loss at three teams that are three and one by a small margin me anything. I don't know it's hard to say I mean I mean. It's hard to say this. Seattle team is a very good the football team. We saw how they played earlier this week. You made our Sunday game against the rams. They played a very good football game. the Kansas Not Kansas City. The San Francisco game was a weird game because Mason Rudolph. I start you know if you WANNA throw that one away but I don't think it says anything to be honest because when you look at them statistically and you look at some of their numbers in terms of running the football you know stopping the run third or down conversions. There's just too many time of possession stats. There's just too many stats that lean in a bad direction to suggest asked that they're a good team. They are what they are. They are one in three football team that is wildly inconsistent and we'll be wildly inconsistent because they have a rookie quarterback. Let me jump into another question. we go through the live chat here. There was one that Russ op Stein. Hopefully I pronounce it correct. He said my man Lance. The man who choose to take the controversial stance. He digs being the odd atman out. 'cause that what this brother is all about. He's not here to tell you what you WanNa hear. He tells US fear. I'm not here to tell you what you WanNa hear. I mean you can convince yourself that. This team is what it is but I mean like the gray pill bar cell said I mean it is what it is. You're you're you're record. They are not playing football on. Both sides of the football team is not a very good team if you look at the AMC standard in the AFC is that team up north of defending world champion six time champions two Patriots Patriots in the Kansas City chiefs and right now because of New England's defense. They're not even playing well on offense. They're trying to find themselves office because of the loss of Gronkowski excuse and the running game is Kinda struggling had injuries with Devlin and some other guys on our team so they're fighting themselves. They don't even have a good tied in yet so but their defense is the best we've seen in years or the first four games and Kansas City. I mean those are I mean that's the litmus. I mean in Pittsburgh. It's about competing for championships so if you're not better than those teams. What are we talking about anyway. This is a rebuild and you are right in the green. TV I did pick the bungles and Nathan said if the head coach didn't trust Mason Rudolph Dobbs would be to know he distrusted dobbs less. I mean we saw how played in preseason. Dobbs was actually worse and Rudolf Plate much better in preseason so he didn't I mean he just doesn't trust Rudolph nor should he trust Rudolph. I mean Rudolf. Oh hasn't done anything in the League. He hasn't done anything for him to trust him. I mean for most young quarterbacks in their second year that are playing. You don't trust trust unless your name is Patrick. MAHOMES WHO's accident. He asks his lutely just a freak of nature funny coming from senior slim one. If you WANNA Brown Cleveland just brown them. That's a pretty good. I mean a browser because it's too. I you know they're immature. Team get a lot of penalties but the browns are better situated because the quarterback position they have better playmakers offense as it stands now inner the defense actually playing better. Let me go through so many other questions. let me start. Let me start from the top and again I wanNA. Thank you guys for you know participating in a show. Thank you for definitely with the Super Chat. of the twenty bucks 'cause we are trying to raise the money for Jeff to get his Mason Rudolph Jersey because when we do this show on Sunday I want jeff to being a crispy Mason Rudolph off dig up the steeler why three sixty nation from the one five two one two one five two three three Let me jump into this question by it's fake take a factory lands. It's not all route off. These receivers cannot get open. They were all relying on ABC double teams even though see hodges threads instead of all check downs waiting for Rudolph to mature is a waste now looking at film. Some of what you're saying is correct but there are some issue. There are some times not issues times that I've seen the OC be able to scheme guys open. We're Rudolph is not pulling the trigger and that's why I say. This is a rebuild rebuild. I mean that's what it is and and that's why he does not trust the quarterback nor should he trust a quarterback because the quarterback is not going to pull the trigger when you have schemed throws so what you see. Ralph is trying to do is not try to make the mistake and caused them to lose. Rudolf is going to have to turn it loose. That's what he's going to have to do if he wants to play quality football weekend and week out. You've gotTA turn it loose. You can't play against defenses where all eleven guys are within ten yards. A lot of scrimmage fifteen at Max when you're deep safety is playing fifteen yards off the line of scrimmage. It's too condensed. You've got to throw over the top of it to Kevin Shin. The Ravens could also won the game against the chief. The loss of the BROWNS was the only inconsistent game they've had thus far would agree that game against the chiefs was very competitive till it sort of got out of hand fan but it was a very competitive game they went in there and this love Kansas City in the mouth. Kansas City just has too many weapons. Kan City is just supernatural only offers side of football. let me jump into funny comedy by Tyler Kids Tyler Kinsey wrote. I Know Jeff is listed did for only ten cents a day to help feed chest. Many starving kids. Kids are not starving no way to star. Are they actually eat very well. You guys should follow Jeff on instagram. He's got a beautiful healthy kids. Jeff's great guys kids are not starving but did you guys do need to contribute so jeff can get that. Mason Rudolph because I don't want you have to wear seven you know if Jeff Wears the seven. WE'RE GONNA MAKE JEFF hold his arm up to a size so he can have the cast when he wears seven as well. Let me jump into a comet up here because I did see somebody opened up to you. Awesome stuff nineteen eighty three to all twenty two says the receives receivers are getting open. They are Giddy Open. I mean the narrative of the receivers aren't getting open open and not getting any separation. That's not true I would agree with the awesome stuff nineteen thirty nineteen eighty-three. They are getting open. They may not be getting openness consistently as we're normally seeing them in the past but the O C is scheming guys open eyes are getting open but here's the thing what he it needs our guys to get open where it's clearly defined what we can't assume he's going to do is anticipate guys getting open and it makes them anticipation throws where he throws a Guy Open. He anticipated a guy's going to get open and he throws a guy open as a result. He is not going to do that. At this point. He wants to see it first before he turns it loose and I don't know if those guys are getting separation to that level level where he's willing to to cut it loose and throw the football. Let me jump down some more. I- Russ us. You got good questions for us but I do want to jump into a couple of other guys double H H can we start a we are the world esque music video to fund jerseys for the entire Hartman clan. There's Sir Choice. We're making we're changing now. Allies is true. We make a better day just me and you probably had those lyrics lyrics. We are the world oh big up to Gardy gives me who said I have the worst show on. Bt 's big up to you. Oh Double G. That'll maybe that'll be nicknamed. The show Gardy gives me Thank you for the positive comments you should ask me a question Gardy. If everything is the worst show please contribute to the worst show and jump to the top of the list and ask me a question hunter nine five. They are holding Rudolph back just just like they did ben in his rookie season. Just give him a chance. Here's the big difference between that team and his team. We all know teams. Defense was incredible in the running game was nice. I stick it run the football they have bus they had do stick it. Run the football. They were dominant on defense. I think they were almost number. One in every statistical category on defense they had adopted the compound you AH in ask this team. Just is not equipped at at the moment to support him in that way. it's fake a factory chimed in. He agreed with me. about Rudolf will not anticipate. You're absolutely right He's not gonNA pull the trigger to to Richard Kerkorian's point. The offense is young except for the offensive line offers young. That's why I say. It's a rebuild look at look at the skill positions that the steelers are putting out there and also you know one of the biggest questions Russians out there is where are they going to do with Dante Mon- Greece Not Moncrieff moncrieff listen to the show. He's been coining. Neeman grief and I've read some stuff where he didn't even know he had fallen that far on the depth chart. I mean he's the most senior wide receiver that they have. They gotta be able to figure out to get him in because I mean you look at the wire receiver core Deontay Juju and James Washington only getting one target. Oh my I mean that doesn't scare anybody so to some extent why he may struggle Mason Rudolph and but you can hear the quotes from coach Tom he clearly does not trust Mason Rudolph. He doesn't trust in right now and nor should he so when you guys are talking about the play offs you know if you WanNa crown the steelers Dan Crown but this team is not situated to make playoff run. Uh Not at the moment and I think what we see is been covered up a lot of issues uh hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown forecast your avengers of college football podcast successor in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is. It's all spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants the Warren Middle School we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP been covered up a lot of issues and big up to you Tyler Mackenzie. Oh you like to rock him the rock reference because I just got the audio book sweat like the technique so make sure you check out that that's awesome book. I got the Audio Book Rock. Him has demanded got him see my melody is my favorite song but who's GonNa pin the lyrics of the world because we do want all the Hartman clan to wear Mason Rudolph Jerseys and I want Jeff to do a show with all his kids leads with Mason Rudolph Jerseys and we gotta make that happen 'cause. It's like a guy five kids. That's ten jeff the wife that's Twelve S. fourteen dogs. Hey Man we need like ten jerseys. We need ten Rudolph Jerseys for Hartman clan. Nathan Eighth Smith. You can't expect Rudolph the guard their day. WanNa start weighing like a ten year vet no. I don't expect them to do that but can't he'd be Gartner intermittent you. Can he be mentioned. That's my expectation. Can he be as good as meant you. That's asked what I would think and the reason why I have high expectations for Mason Rudolph is because they did you know because because of what they gave up to aquarium. I should have high expectations for him. I would expect that he could play at least as well. Louis Gardner mentioned the second like why would I not believe that Jerry Aldean's steeler fans we are standing on shaky ground too close goes to the edge hoping Sunday won't be on the Ledge love that love that if you guys get that know the Ledge know the ledge aired being rock him when this show is make sure you type that in sip the juice I got enough to go around takes place up town. Why Learn Street talk talk the Hawk New York. I'd go to Queens the Queens act do this all day with rock him. Go uptown the F. Recouping around but anyway I love Nathan Smith for the comeback. If you WANNA crown men shooting crown them great come back work dirty one if we beat any team that he will have to play lights out and there's no consistency on that side to expect that to happen exactly exactly absolutely exactly both sides of the football art consistent enough off to even mention playoffs. He'll call me and a couple of weeks. You know if you guys want to get my prediction for the game. If you've gotTA listen to the standard of the standard but before we get out of here if you guys want to shoot me some of you know some of your practice game shoot me Rutshuru Russ obstinacy gotta be hard to trust the guy so soon replace get fifty year hall of fame is going to have to go through certain processes to earn it absolutely been and Tomlin our marriage love and marriage the truth go together like a horse and carriage Dessus Guy Tomlin's his Guy Ben is his guy that does so yes. You're absolutely right. He's going to have to make some plays days. You Know X. Eddie Tennessee steelers. You GotTa go you gotTa go to my show last week. the burning question question were were. I talked about could the steelers the steelers kgo eight name. I just don't see it this year. awesome stuff nine thousand nine hundred eighty three no one this airplane off the team is trading up though steelers twenty-one ravens seventeen. It's going to be very interested in the big thing in this game is can they stop the run creaky Kakissis thirty four thirteen those nasty birds who that's going to be tough because wait. Martindale runs a complicated scheme. They're very familiar with the steelers and I just don't trust the steelers offense personnel particularly Rudolf behind the wheel so the thirty four thirteen. That's GONNA be ooh. That's interesting that would have to be littered with turnovers. in the Green TV been washed Reginald rivers twenty seventeen steelers dewayne dunk onto now. I know I just terrorized your name. Near twenty thirteen steelers win on defense causing turnovers one thing that steelers dealers do they get after the quarterback but his game I mean you're GonNa have to stop the run and you know they cannot let Antonio Brown Mr Thirten written fisk cousin get behind him off of play action in really got a handle to run because we've seen that this team has been hypersensitive to play the action given an inconsistency at which they stopped the run I'm seeing a lot of steelers picks. Is there anybody brave enough. In the live chat to actually sleep pick the ravens mean you can pick the ravens. I mean I. I think you guys Kinda. Get the gist of where I'm going. you guys can pick the ravens. The team team is what it is. I mean you don't have to be I mean fan does mean fanatical. That's why I mean if you WanNa Crowning steelers Dan Crown them but you know oh creaky says yeah. She's picking the Ravens Kevin Shinshu Twenty eight twenty four Ravens you know Guru Ravens will probably win. Gardy Gadsby Ashby said No. We're actually steeler fans. Being a fan does not mean you have to pick your team to win every week. How many teams go sixteen at all. I mean that team up North West Sixteen now. There's only been one so I mean you miss you. Get it. You get it wrong. Sometimes you can get it wrong. Awesome stuff nineteen the eighty three. Ll Gardy hey man look a creases. I'm a dude not a she. Sorry sorry cre- I'm sorry I'm sorry guy. I'm sorry Ike a sham Manahan none of us. Not all of us are or closet browns fans. I I am not a closet brown fat. I am definitely not a closet brown fan but with that listeners we're going to go conclude this show look. I'm just saying like thanks me. Joe said losing players like Shade Zero Bail Mr Third and Fifth Mr Button Naked and rob been fascinating. You expect that that these are the results. You should expect. You know I'm not tearing down. I'm just stating what I'm stating. you know. I'm not tearing them down. But what I'm not going to do is be delusional in pick them to go sixteen to know every game. I think you guys deserve more. I think you guys deserve honest honest analysis. I'm from the Burke. I'm from the north side. I grew up ten minutes from the stadium. I hate when they lose. You know I'm from Pennsylvania Avenue. Do you know I'm from Chicago. I used to live off. Tell I live in Columbus Avenue. I mean that's my neighborhood and went to Manchester Elementary School. I went to Saint Joe's. I mean I'm a northside dude. I'm a north sider identified but this is a good football team and you know it is what it is and like thanks Joe said I'm not counting steelers out like Yogi said it ain't over till it's over but don't crown them yet. That's all I'm saying if you want to clown the crown them but don't crown right now there's time they may improve but don't crowd them right now and don't even talk about play offs. you know and like getting bit. We're both that even when they went thirteen. Three hours thought they would lost 'cause. I'm looking for particular things in games. That would suggest gest that you are a good football team. land sharp. Thanks for the compliment. I like Shannon Sharpe Channel sharps a hall of Famer snazzy Dresser Dresser and he's in very good shape but with that we are going to conclude this show and as always tune in Tele friend and subscribe I.

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Steelers Preview: The best, and worst, case scenarios for Steelers Training Camp

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Steelers Preview: The best, and worst, case scenarios for Steelers Training Camp

"Pittsburgh steeler fans welcome back to another episode of the steelers preview your looking at Dave Scofield and Brian Anthony Davis coming at you this week Jeff Hartmann his somewhere. I'm sure he is looking extremely Tan at this moment from his vacation time <hes> we were hoping to also have Tony Desio with this week right now. We're experiencing some technical difficulties with Tony. I mean if we can get them straightened out. He'll be jumping in later but if not you're going to be with just Brian I for tonight so Brian. How are you doing on this wonderful evening? Dude I am rocking and rolling. I'm rocking the Casbah. The schrief might not like it but I'm feeling really good. It's good to see you. I'm sure Jeff Right. Now is having a grand old time. I'm sure he's wearing speedo. 's and put it on the body oil and flexing everywhere he goes and so we're GONNA go ahead man man down the Fort and hang out here toxin steelers because guess what the calendar I looked at it. It is July team players report July twenty fifth one week from today Louis Yeah there we go. We are one week when we come here next week Brian. Are you going to be back for for the show. Next week is to the woods I will be in the woods you will be in the woods so so so scouts and probably a lot less hair and hopefully no bears raccoons possums and especially skunks trying to fight a bear dave now that I tell you what that's an either or right there I who would you put the money on Brian or the Brian or the bear. That's next week when whoever's he's here for the preview. I'm assuming it'll be Jeff Ni- and who knows where else is going to what else is going to have with that. We will be talking about Pittsburgh steelers in Latrobe at Saint Vincent College College. Run tests should be over because I'm pretty sure that's the one thing they do on move in day. I'm hoping we'll be able to we're not talking about helicopters limousines and things like that that were just talking about here here. They are and kun-bae so I'm really looking forward to that. You mentioned Speedo. 's speedo man Brian Worse being back in the eighties yeah but I was like one thirty five when I graduated from high school and probably one forty five when I graduated college so I could pull off speed those back in the day. No one needs that now famous plus you know what we're going to get a secret and hotdog comment if I keep talking about me wearing speed us yeah the only people. I know that we're speed those are my size or larger. It seems it's funny. You were one thirty five Brian. I was I'd to lose thirty. He pounds to get down to one thirty five in order to play football in sixth grade. Drop that weight in order to play against eighth graders but that's just a that's just the way it is for for for being a big guy but let's let's we've always stuff here. We've got some steeler news you know we said no news is good news and we have pretty much no news except the little bit of news that we do have some pretty interesting news so the first thing that we want to talk about just briefly here with some sealers news is is a story that came out. I'm trying to remember Brian. You helped me out with exactly who who <hes> with who the interview was with but it was with James Connor talking about his experience with his diagnosis of cancer and I want to turn this over to you because this is something especially today that this is something that I'm really WanNa hear you talk about this and give your thoughts well. You know I can't remember thanks Dave. I can't remember who exactly he did. The interview with. I don't know whether he is a performer and a former baseball player. It was pretty interesting but it seems like they knew each other at Pitt but it was a really indepth interview and we've known James Connor story for a long time. We've known I mean a lot of us knew all about it. When it was happening because we knew about the MC L. Injury Against Youngstown downstate in the opener in two thousand fifteen? We knew that he was trying to come back and then we knew that the diagnosis came out then six months later he says I'm cancer free and he's playing again and and we celebrated him for that and which we really should have because that's something that he worked really hard to get back <hes> being the warrior they was and that's something that he will never lose as as label was cancer survivor that is that is definitely a club that is a very special club if you go through that diagnosis and he talked about going through the diagnosis and hearing that he had one week to live if he did not get taken care of right away and that is just something really really hit me in the face because could you imagine hearing that news the seaward that you have cancer and on sixteen sixteen years ago today on July eighteenth two thousand three. I received those words I I have an article coming out about it. Talk about James Connor talking about myself which uh the only comparison is the fact that we went through something similar. I something that was an awkward situation for me because I knew something was going on the doctor would not look me in the eye but <music> said to be of all things and it's something I laugh out and I laugh at now and I laughed then because I was very nervous but he looked at me and this was back in two thousand and three and you know what was going on the Tour de France. It was eventually French word of France back then so let me goes. Well doesn't really look at me but says you ever hear of Lance Armstrong and I was like what what you're telling me. Try as much as they can for you. You know yeah yeah I mean that's like being on a cruise ship. The captain comes on and says folks you ever see the movie titanic when that happens a lot of good yeah okay I could. I could see the comparison so that hit me like a ton of bricks when it happened. I was thirty one years old. I got the news and then immediately. Everything flooded in my head. What what what am I gonNA do? Am I going to die. How am I going to tell my family and that's one thing that James Connor said that really hit home with me? He's like how do I tell my Bros and when he's saying his Bros.. Not Talking about his friends he has four older brothers use that they were athletes in high school. They were never athletes in college. And how am I gonNa tell them. How do I tell them that? Their little brothers GonNa die in the only time that I cried. This entire. Experience was telling my mother it was is the toughest thing I told my dad was fine. Tell my mom was was just incredible so with that being said when I heard the James Connor News and I thought about what I went through on this day I mean when it's have when and I'm just reading about it I I just started reading about two days ago and I'm like Oh. My Gosh that is so close to the anniversary is celebrated every year. I mean not celebrate. I don't post on facebook. I don't tell people about it but I celebrate it in my mind knowing where I was Dan and where I am now and you think about where James Connor was then and where he was now in what's going on his head. It's a lot of mental stuff when you hear that kind of news and you're hearing about it and you're thinking. I don't don't know what's going to happen next. Can I get through this and here's the thing I was actually I did say to the doctor I said all right. What do we do now and I was ready to right there? I was just ready to go. I was like all right eight. I made a decision right there. Whatever we have to do we're going to do and we did six days later I had surgery? I had another surgery Johns Hopkins about six weeks later a couple of weeks later I found out I was cancer free free at the same time I was going through a divorce. All this was happening at once at the end of the year on New Year's Eve. I called my family. I said to my mother I happy new year's bomb and she said I bet you're glad this year's over. You had the worst year of your life. I'm like no I had the best year of my life and the reason I call it. The Best Year of my life people came out of the woodwork people that I didn't know where my friends people that I didn't know cared about me came came out and they didn't go back in you know some did but most of them stayed and I really realized my worth on this earth and I hope James Connor and I really I'm really sure he does knows his worth on this earth. So at the end of March I took my nephew to it autograph signing and Chantilly Virginia and I got a chance to meet change connor and I I mean it's a quick line. You go through nicest kid in the world by the way I mean automatically love this guy the way he is in person just a fantastic person but I said hey I'm a I'm a survivor too and he looks at me goes really said how you doing now like. I'm doing good now. I I'm doing really good sixteen years. It's like wow God bless you man and he was as genuine can be so. I bring that up. I mean might be narcissistic to talk about it but it's something I wanted to share with bts S._e.. Because you all are my family and everybody that's on that comment rent section everybody that's in the live chat. is we share every week together and it's something that if I didn't know if you knock me on the head and Asia I'd look down and say what do I have the scar and that's pretty much about it but with that being said when I heard that news it was something that just really made me feel so much more closer to James Connor. The athlete read made me think that hey. We think way too much about athletes sometimes as far as their flaws and he this is just James Connors of triumph of the human spirit and whatever he does. I'm supporting sporting if he fumbles twice in a game I also know what he's gone through when he's laying in bed at night wondering how he's going to get through this when he's figuring out how to tell people so this is a big anniversary first reforming sixteen years I I expect to have many more of them but I just wanted to bring that up and we need to celebrate James Connor so much more not just for the <hes> twelve touchdowns thirteen touchdowns were sure he's going to get that. He did last year not for the pro bowl appearance but for who he is as a person on this earth so I just wanted to bring that up. Thanks for the forum. Hey I'm really glad that you share that with Brian. I know sometimes that we're really focused on the football and everything but but but this is this is important and this was something that that allowed you to share how you understand how things went through now. I don't want seem like I'm cheapening anything or or stepping back at all but the one thing about the whole James Connor thing that that I noticed was I read the exact quote from him and then I read some stories about it and some headlines and and there was two words added to headlines that weren't actually in the quote now it might have been that he explained it later but I'm not sure and that was the words to live that his original quote said that he only had about a week left's but he didn't say the words to live and I'm not saying I. I guess what I'm saying is I don't want to miss can sure but I mean I don't know if it meant to James Connor was going to be gone in a week or if in a week's time things would have progressed so much that he would have reached the point of no return turn that the treatment wouldn't have worked. I'm not exactly sure there but regardless I mean you're talking about one week and then what whether he would have been gone in that week or he would have been a point to where it was or if it was that point in a return and and he could have been gone just months after that is and he planned for the Pittsburgh steelers and he's a pro bowl player you know he did say at the rate. This is growing. That's one thing that the doctor said at the rate. This is growing if you don't get help immediately if you don't get this treated immediately you have one week so that's I kind of construed it that way so I mean maybe maybe that needs some more interpretation but you know the that's interesting point yeah I was just I don't know if that's you know I don't WanNa find out later on when when he's he's retired out of the N._F._l.. and has fifteen pro bowls and seven all pros and and most importantly twelve lombardi trophies that that after his time with steelers is over and the book comes out that you find out well it wasn't that I'd had a week to live. It's that I had a week until it was no return and then I only had a month after that which which would be just the same story my opinion I just you know sometimes people just grab something like that and run with it but I don't think he at one week until he until cancer was what was going to be what did him in. It's I mean he tried to -actly exactly and that's all I need to celebrate exactly so the only other steelers news we had was there. I know some players were upset with madden rankings and some top one hundred players. There's <hes> I mentioned a little bit last night on the steelers burn question but I don't. I don't play Madden. I'm not really into that. I know some people were were criticizing players. You were upset about it. I'm not GonNa do that either. I mean if that's your thing that's your thing. <hes> I know the one one hundred top one hundred players. I think it was from C._B._S.. Did Not include David Decastro but other steelers in my opinion that makes the whole list worthless so I don't have anything I want to say unless you wanted to mention anything with that Ryan what's funny about that. You remember when Juju has a ninety seven yard reception against Detroit right before Halloween back in two thousand seventeen and right after it. He said yeah they say Emma fast because my mom and my man rating is only this and they immediately madden immediately upped his rating just like that so it's it's bragging rights because those guys play like crazy. You know why I don't play Madden because I have an addictive personality. If I start I used to play tech mobile and everybody Remembers Tech Mobile back in the day super technical. It was amazing and I used to play that like crazy in the year I had it back in ninety five was awesome because that's when the steelers went to the Super Bowl and I had it that season and I'm playing with Rod Woodson was just amazing thing. You Have Barry Foster on there. Bam Morris was just a load it was it was so fun <hes> and but I didn't stop playing. I just I would go through seasons like sixteen games and do a season like in two days and so I would do that with madden so that's the reason I don't play. I know exactly what you mean. It's one of those things at once you you open Pandora's box. You can't close it. It's once you get started. It's it's going I'm. I'm the same way with Reese's cups. You don't WanNa fuck with one because next thing you know you're eating twenty five so so we're going to move onto the stat Kikwit. We're going to do this on pretty fast especially since it looks like we just got a message for Tony that his technical difficulties are not going to be able to be resolved in order for him to get on <hes>. We'll see if we can work that had out another time and hopefully Tony can can. We want to get him here on Youtube. I know the hangover's look into to possibly move to Youtube. I was kind of disappointed Brian. I was ready to introduce you guys at Rick Flair and on an Arn Anderson Ah I listened hangover so I knew who to call you guys so for tonight. Stat we're going to kind of kind of trick to dabble with what was talking about last night with a burning question and the last question once we're done with this and that was dealing with all pro players so I'm GonNa ask you real quick. This is the easy one how many on the current steelers Rosser. How many all pro players do they have not? They don't have any no doesn't have to be from last year but meeting have ever made all pro first team all pro. I would say well if you can name them because that's what it's GonNa do next I would say Dave with the Castro and Joe Haden have made all pro in their careers. Okay Joe Haden. I look that one up because like you say when he did his stuff in Cleveland not for the steelers when he did this stuff in Cleveland he was 'CAUSE I. I did not know that one because it was coming from somewhere else but he has not made all pro. Dave decastro did make all pro in two thousand fifteen in two thousand seventeen gay anybody else I'll tell you there's three so David Castro. I know it's not Boswell Benz made one hasn't he know Ben Rothlisberger all pro. We talked about that. I talked about that for a little bit last night because if they only take one quarterback from the whole league so yes pouncey in two thousand eleven and two thousand fourteen he's a two time all pro and the last one is interesting. I'm GonNa tell you and see if you can remember this player in two thousand seventeen eighteen because there was four steelers that we're all two thousand seventeen to easier or or no longer now wasn't Jay Z are just waiting just wait. We'll give you the hints. The player did not make the pro bowl to start but got elected first team all pro because of the way his position was defined in a three four defense to have you stumped so two thousand seventeen. Yes I guess it would have to became hayward that would be correct. It was cam hayward because I mentioned last night. He was originally listed as a defensive end so therefore therefore for pro for pro bowl he was going up against the J._J.. Watch and the out and the edge rushers of a four three defense and he was not elected to the pro bowl but he was elected as an interior defensive linemen <hes> to all pro so therefore he was then added to the pro bowl later on as they had people that weren't doing it but my question was going to be that all pro that was easy what about pro bowlers current steelers that have been to approachable rebel. Do you have any idea how many or you can start naming them. I'll check them off for you. Tell me if I was going to have you bounce back and forth naming them until somebody Eddie ran out or got one wrong. That was how you're going to do it but you know the church so I just gotTa. Have you listed. I'll just go ahead. Let's let's start with the third on offense watch. Let's start uh-huh special teams. 'cause there's one yet it's GonNa be Chris Boswell. That's correct. Hello Listener. I'm Sean Ramos firm host of today explained Vox Daily News podcast every day Monday through Friday my team and I look at what's happening happening. In the world we pick one essential news story that defines our moment and asks smart people to help us understand it in about twenty minutes or less. It's the perfect way to start her end. Your Day subscribed today explained for free on apple podcasts or on your favorite podcast APP. It's from stitcher and the VOX media podcast network. Did I lose you Brian. One of us is frozen Rosen. I am not sure if it is you or if it is me now that I'm looking at it. I do believe that it is you so I'm just going to have to go from here so here we go steelers is pro bowlers. I'd really want to let Brian List these off but it looks like that just might not be the case going on so I don't know that I'm sure I don't know the Brian could even hear me so the answer for those of you out. You're listening. There was actually actually twelve pro bowlers for the steelers on on offense. Well let no. Let's just go by who had the most and we'll see if if we can get Brian back we have the leader for the steelers in pro bowls is marquee pouncey was seven followed closely by Ben Rothlisberger with six the thing that's interesting about Marquees pouncey the thing sorry just checking the live chat the the thing that's going on with with marquee. pouncey is only two years. He did not make the pro bowl was in two thousand thirteen and two thousand fifteen in two thousand thirteen he only played eight snaps in the season in the season opener against Tennessee in the opening drive and then suffered the injury down close that down close <hes> to the end zone and I think we might have Brian back now. That was weird. Talk it in and you said Chris Boswell and then you went to go at you just froze. I started to lift a little bit but I'm GonNa let you go ready. Repay the defense like okay well. I'm GonNa tell you the one thing I was talking about was the player that has the most the player that has the most is actually Marquees pouncey with seven and I was just mentioned the only two years he has not made the pro bowl was two thousand thirteen when he played eight snaps before he got injured for the season and in two thousand fifteen when he was injured against Green Bay in the preseason in a game that I will always remember because it was the first time my dressed up my newborn son who was just born the day before in the steelers stuff watching that Game Pouncey Jersey in the hospital only for pouncey get knocked out for the season so you Chris Boswell and I gave him market. They've let me go real quick out just buzz through this. I was going to go pouncey in two other Lineman of course decastro Villanueva Ramon foster should have made it but never has no tight ends. You have two running backs Rosie Nex. You have James Connor your one wide receiver jujubes but Schuster and you have been rothlisburger. If we go over to the defensive side of the ball we're going to be looking at all on the defensive line. The only one we're going to go with is Cam Hayward Kaz steph onto it has never made it Hargrove <unk>. Our gravest never made it T.. J. Watt spit in their Vince Williams has not I do not believe Mark Barron has ever made it so. I'M NOT GONNA say him Ryan Shazier if because he's still on the roster with him we'll go Joe Haden that is correct and I'm not going to go Steven Nelson so I think I'm GonNa Stop Right there and you are stopping at the perfect spot and as the people already here heard but you did not that final answer is twelve so twelve current steelers are are have at least one pro bowl and like I said Marquees pouncey leads the way was six. Ben Roberts. No sorry mark has seven Ben Rothlisberger has six and David Decastro asked for everyone else has either two or one so with that. I'm GONNA real quickly. Ask you the burning question from last night which steelers steelers player has the best chance to make all pro in two thousand nine hundred. I'm going to say James Garner. Excuse me Juju Smith Schuster shuster dude you Smith Schuster. Go with you. All right that's great. I broke them down into three categories. I went with ones that have made all pro before and I said David Cash has the best shot then I went with players that have made a pro bowl. I said I think think T._J.. What because I think he can move ahead of his brother? Yeah I really think you can and then my long shot which was someone who's never even been to a pro bowl. You're gonNA love like this. I said as a long shot but I could see it happening. Was One devin Bush. You know well. I was thinking that would be fun so from that Brian. I'M GONNA pass it over to you because I think it's about time we actually get to the title of the episode now that we've got your back and I'm GonNa let you talk about this a little bit more because this is a little more your baby right. We're excited about camp. Everybody is one week away and we have the expectations of what is going to happen and camp so I want you to dig deep down. What is the best case scenario happening in encamp? What is the worst case scenario so if we go ahead and take a look at this when I did this last year we off the top of my head? One of them was on Chris Boswell and it was Chris Boswell Stein into new contract to stay in Pittsburgh for the remainder of his career. That's the best case scenario coming out of camp. The worst case scenario was Chris Boswell science a new contract but tanks basically AH TAKE I wouldn't Bryan Roy. I didn't WANNA be right but yeah we hit the worst case scenario so if you look at it this way we can go ahead and start off on the offensive side of the ball and the best case scenario is for me. Juju Smith Schuster takes over as wide receiver number one and gets enough help from the from from the rest of the state will receivers and the steelers do not miss a beat from losing Antonio Brown but the worst case scenario is Juju gets double teamed. No one else steps up and Antonio Brown is really missed and that trade just blows up in their face. It's funny because I was going to go a very similar out but first of all you're using and you're not allowed to use on this show and I don't know about Michaud but but I'm thinking because I felt it for Jeff on the standard of the standard and because of the way I refer to him Lance Williams renamed the artist formerly known as a four and his new name that we are going to call him from now on is Mr third and fifth so you know what Dave 'cause that's what he is the steelers now he's a third and if so that's what it was so that's that's his new name. If you're looking to pass about what what I want to say best case scenario. I was going to be very similar but I wasn't GonNa make it about Ju Ju. I was going to say for the offense. The best case scenario is that after Juju the rest of the receivers core the rest receiving core is so good and so solid the reason the steelers don't have a number two is because they're all number two you and that they're fighting to actually get the guys on the field because they're all performing so well and they're having fits spreading that ball round and Jews not getting that big numbers because they're all that great and then of course our our worst case scenario is basically the same thing where instead of instead of there being no number two receiver not because they're also doing such a good job is that nobody has stepped up into it and Juju getting constantly covered by multiple players and the best defensive player on the other team and it's just making the offense just kind of sputter so I have to agree with that. I I like that I think for the offense that's a pretty solid pr pretty solid best and worst case. Here's the other day and it concerns the offensive line so the best case scenario is even with the departure mcmuffin Shack Look Sean Stare at comes in a keeps the dominance of offensive line with three existing pro bowlers on that line keeps them together and they don't miss a beat but the worst case scenario is injuries. He's injuries pop star. It doesn't have the money back magic and that team that that line is a middle of the road line eating Ben Rothlisberger to get murdered murder. Yeah I probably should have jumped in and rather than talking about in the same way figure well. Yes I know what you mean that that I should have jumped in and I should've just taken that route as well as one ago as yeah instead of having a three ryman battle for right tackle. It's a no man battle for right tackle no one steps up and grabs it <hes> or so many injuries star decimating. That's the biggest thing with this offensive line. They're up there. They're a great offensive line but if that's that's the problem with veterans as I use air quote as that not literal veterans like Big Al but I mean veteran players that have been in the League for a while was that you never know when they're going to get dinged up and it's a no he's been with the team longer than months shack was but it's a lot for coach the proper way I was told to say it was ceramics to then have to groom guys to step right in right away Sir Seret that I I think they can. They've got so much depth that I feel like a lot of guys would have to get hurt in order for it to not work but you just don't even want to want one even mention that at something coming out so I think those are some good ones the offense you got anything for the Defense Brian. Well let me further on that. I don't know about new turf. You're breaking up okay. Let me mention one more thing about the offensive line. I don't think guys like David Decastro. MARQUEES pouncing I'll well Andrea Villanueva and Ramon foster are going to let them defeat defined by a coach that left so I think they love that guy but they don't want to be defined by the fact that they were the munch bunch they wanna be defined and as being the dominant players that they are so I do not think that we are going to have sorretto syndrome. I'm so glad that didn't break up and that I could hear the whole thing. That was a good good. One there. You come on get to the defense. Come on great. Hey this is this is an easy one and it's a quick one defensive rookie of the a year Devon Bush best case scenario give a pro bowl defensive rookie player of the year worst case scenario is he struggles to he struggles to find his way as a pro and just becomes. Is A mid level player and not the savior that of the defense that they think he's going to be. I think that's a really good way to start. I'm doing my best to pay attention to you but when one Jeff Hartmann jumps into the live check in order to ask if he missed the discussion on who will reach the touchdown zone the most two thousand nineteen. I'm after but I have to throw it out too. Crazy Chris Crazy Chris brought it up. I using the super chat feature about meeting eating the touchdown zone shirt for those of you. Don't know what we're talking about. You need to catch last week show. You'll hear much joan a lot. I didn't let Brian Live at down the very next day I had a nice little mean. Come into him. <hes> I wish I could really show it. It had Brian face on it. It was fantastic. I took it in stride and I own it and look I was rolling with what I was staying and for. Some reason endzone popped out of my head. I've been watching football for forty years and I just said touchdown zone and I'm never gonNA live at down so crazy Chris. Hey won't make those shirts but jokes on all of you. I'M GONNA COPYRIGHT IT Yeah. You're you're you're going to own it and while we're at it I do want to say that there are there was something else in the in the under the Super Chad and I've got to say this because we got two pounds about two dollars to else repeater K hill early on in a sheet saying fingers crossed no major injuries in training camp. You know we're not even GonNa talk about the whole best at worst case scenario being with the injuries going global. Yes yeah there we go because because everybody knows everybody knows that the ultimate best-case scenario worst-case scenario coming out of training camp is best case. Everybody's healthy worst-case just so many any injuries. We don't even know what we're GONNA do so we're not even GONNA go there. We're just going to leave that alone because that's all we WANNA do when we talked about defense. It's funny because that's where I almost wanted to skip to because certain positions like outside linebacker. You know we said T.. J. Watt could possibly be all pro if something happens to him. That's when things really start to get in but I really liked your Devon. Bush won. I mean best case scenario is is is that we have another steelers dealers linebacker in the discussion for defensive rookie of the year but yeah or he could just be a guy is the worst case scenario me. I'm all about that best case scenario. I have so much optimism this time of year. I'm raise ago. I'm going to say the best case scenario is that there is such a battle on the defensive line that especially with the steelers going wing with sub package football. You're just how you GONNA get guys on the field like already last night with a burning question. A lot of people were really big in our own on John Hargrave and he had a fantastic season last year but the problem was just wasn't AH field enough. You only played about forty five percents of the snaps last year because even though it was very rare that the steelers were using nose tackle less than a third of the time but they still got them in their defensive tackle but if you're putting him on the field than you're talking about taking off either Cam A._M.. Or steph onto it you got Tyson Allahu. You've got the <hes> the the as Jeff would say it got some kind of bad pictures on somebody shade tree Daniel mccullers still in the mix but you also got the six drown steel of Isaiah bugs. I think the best case scenario is that you can't find your having fit splitting up though snaps between those defensive Lineman but the worst case scenario is camp has been in the past steph onto. It's been dinged in the past next thing you know the steelers are trying to trying to scare scrape together enough defensive Lineman just to get by and get through the season. What do you think about that Brian? You know ah that's that's really true. We've seen CAM GO DOWN TO THAT DALLAS game in two thousand seventeen and he missed what the next seven games and the play offs <hes>. That's a guy you would have really would've loved to have I've had against New England but hey I'll take the embarrassment of riches. If you have problems getting guys like Javan hardgrave on the field because you're getting good play in the sub package is working and you have a top up in defense in for me top ten defense. I don't care about anything as far as defense except for points per game. That's where I rank guys were. I ranked teams. All I care about its points per game when I'm talking about defense defense yards not so much so with that being said that's a good best case worst case scenario yeah do. Do you have another one. You're throughout you want to do a special teams ones or do you want yeah. I haven't run for special teams and this is one. That's really special to me. It's best case scenario. Danny Smith Junior wins the lottery and retires immediately and we're thinking that guy can dial up a pretty good. You know what that's true. He can really block upon and yeah earn upon block upon yeah worst case scenario. Is that that it gets worse. The special teams gets worse. I mean we need to see a touchdown. Ah On special teams we haven't seen in a long time. I think the last if I'm not mistaken the last one was probably week seventeen Jews rookie year yeah usually what exactly what I'm pretty sure it was ju juice kick return against against against Cleveland so yeah. I'm with you right there. I'm going to <hes> let me see here. I keep getting distracted by this by this guy. B._T._S.'s steelers radio so in the live chat talking about how awful these guys are and how much we Miss Jeff Chapman saying these things but they miss his best this case scenario. I'm just GonNa read you a great special teams when I'm GonNa just doing overall for the whole team best case scenario when people were doubting steelers. Oh my goodness did I just see Tony commended luggage action Dave Oh yes. I don't know how well we can hear us. We'll see if if if he's technically there there we'll see if we ever hear from about my introduction was that I am very pleased to be with the Rick Flair of Beat E._S._e.. Along with the ARN Anderson of B._T.. S._E. Tony do you have us there. We got your picture do we you have any audio. Are you with us here you guys. I can't believe you're still under the air you know figure this out. Yeah I can hear you well. It's Brian. I was set earlier tonight with about thinking about eight minutes straight but now I don't know if that's really true or not but we were. We were just finishing up. What we thought was best case worst case scenarios? We did some offense Defense Bryant and his special teams. I was just going to do for the whole team. My best case scenario is people were down on the steelers and they use that and they come out and show him exactly the kind of team that we all know that they are and my worst case scenario R._E._O.. As people were down on the steelers and the steelers proven right so that's pretty much how it goes let me jump in on that real quick Dave I will I will go ahead and add a worst case scenario. Two uh-huh the worst case scenario is that by mid season we have hashtag fire Tomlin and tone the has so many death threats coming any article protecting my so. What do you think about that? Tony Threat Part probably pretty predictable yet. I can see that happening because I'm going to defend Tomlin four and twelve hundred defend him the second winningest alias coach in the N._f._l.. Right now so why why should you be fired right forget the hash drama snuff. We know where that's going to go out with you. People people want to want to talk about this with Mike Tomlin. I think my Thomas a very good coach. I do not think he makes every correct decision. I think we all know paste. One is history of challenges that we would just be happy. If you want a couple of those before we move on. I'm going to say we will have. We've already got at least one super chat question coming through a live chat so I wanted to mention real quick if you're on if you're on youtube now in the live chat which of course I WANNA see one Jeff Hartmann throw out some money here under the super chat feature major and we might actually listen to what he has to say for once but if you're if you're unaware you can you can enter the live chat. Ask us a question right now. We'll take a few of them and whenever you type in your question if you want you can use the super chat feature on the right where you type in your question. It's a little dollar sign. You can donate any amount of money that you went to the show. We're not telling you to do it. We're not asking for. We're not out here begging for money. It's it's it's completely up to you but if you use it we will answer your question question and one question that we did get from snowman who through five dollars into the tip jars jeff calls it. He wants to know who we all think is going to win the right tackle job so we don't have to go into a big explanation but Brian. Why don't you go first? Who Do you think's going to be the starting right tackle week one at this point in become Business Matt filer and Tony? What do you think about that that one yeah I agree? I think the anchor he he did really well last year ten games starting place if markets Gobert so. I think he's GonNa keep a job. I like what you guys have to say. I think it's his job to lose and I don't think that I think he's such a great player everyone. Everyone says he is the strongest guy on the team when they get into the weight room but I don't know that we can all answer the same thing so I'm GonNa say not. NABOKOV's father loses it but because he was drafted for his athleticism that at that comes out and play so well that they can't not play them so I think both of those guys could even end up finding some time on the field as an extra tight end or if anybody else goes down along the line so let's see if we have and have have any other questions coming in come on Jeff. Give us a good question <hes> check in the check in the chat now <hes> someone asked and I think it was answered in there who are center is after her after market pouncey and I think we all know that that was answered that that B._J.. Finney he's a what do you think of a Finney as a backup for the interior linemen. You know what I want to go first. Yeah I like B._J.. Finney a lot the when he was coming out of college he was considered the third best center prospect and went undrafted and one of the big reasons was the fact that he has pterodactyl alarms. He's got like the short arms but I think B._J.. Finney is really good to have their these versatile could play both sides both sides but he can play Bo positions and he could block really well and get the team into the touchdowns sounds on their go. Bride Briggs Zone touchdown zone back into it Tony <hes> what your thoughts are one B._J.. Funny I love I feel totally comfortable when he when he has to start plays Marky ramone foster or or David Decastro you know he's he's symbolic of the development line under Mike Check and I hope they continued under under Sarah so I I I feel very comfortable and hope shoots in filer follow suit their versatility exactly I'm going to say I was shocked at the steelers were able to keep both Finney and foster this past offseason. I thought we were going to be an either or situation with them and the fact that we have them both Infineon's still there to back up the hallway across interior line is Great and personally I think when it comes to the backup role with he he has to come in in game. He's actually plays better at guard than he does at center. Are we got a bunch of questions coming in here so we're going to go real quick <hes> expectations for deontay Johnson and James Washington this season. We're going to go with Tony. I what do you think doc as far as Washington. I think he's GonNa have a breakout year. Maybe forty fifty catches Dante Johnson expectations I think I think you're gonNA find a way to to get in the ball in spurts but I don I it's hard. I'd say right now if I see them in the preseason are what do you think Brian. I'll take twenty five catches from done d Andre Johnson. I think that'd be great expectations for for him. Don't need to be huge. What you need to have is Dante moncrieff really stepping up and you really James Washington to prove that he was a worthy second round pick in two thousand eighteen and I really think that he is one of the more <unk> steelers coming into camp? I really think that he has a lot to a lot to gain this year with a great season and <hes> I think ben believes in him now. They had some growing pains last year. I really like this guy. I think it's going to happen yeah. I'm just going to say that. I think this is the make or break year for James Washington. This is where you gotta show where you worthy or were you not and when it comes to the Johnson I've said this before it don't be shocked if he's not even act of the first couple of weeks of the season. That's not going to be a big deal that it was I think week five until Martavis Bryant was active his rookie a year. It's it's just what they do. Here we go. We got snowman coming in on more dollars into the tip jar. Do The steelers extend Mike Tomlin contract before or after the season the let's go brian time well. I kind of think they're going to do it before I'd like. I'd like to see them wait until after <hes> not that he needs proven here I just I'd I'd rather he earned it and now he's earned it. Don't get me wrong. I know that's that's tough for me to say but for. I don't WanNa hear all this other just all this money at him and he can't win. I want him to have a great season and it happened but I think he's GonNa go. Get it beforehand. Hi I'm Avery Gentleman and I'm the host of Nice. Try A podcast about utopia a place that is perfect and does not exist. This season were traveling across time and space to explore seven different attempts to design a better world old. What happens when those designs don't go according to plan from Jamestown the first permanent English settlement in North America and Levittown a series of suburban developments built in the nineteen fifties to shun degar? You're a modernist Indian city. That's also responsible for the chairs. According Kardashians dining room and biosphere to an early nineties experiment that sought to create a completely enclosed self sustaining ecosystem and yeah some of them worked out better than others but they're all fascinating listen and subscribe to Nice try today on Apple podcasts on your favorite podcast APP from curbed and the Vox media podcast network hi Tony what he's got and training camps that I don't think they want that distraction. <unk> season asked him about it after every after every game during a press conference Prince extractions last year's they don't need another one so I think you're going to right before that would not surprise me one bit and every time he's asked he's just going to give us a typical Mike Tomlin non-answer saying that he's not talking about those kinds of things all right. What are you GonNa do one more and that is this is kind of interesting alley wants to know? Do you think Ben will do everything in his power to make Johnson stats eclipse A._B.. The prove appoint let's go with Tony and spread the ball around like you should without having to worry about throwing it. Person has last few seasons. He's GonNa spread the ball around all right. What do you think Brian you know what I love the question but if he does that that would be foolish and I I agree with Tony? I don't expect that to happen and he like I was saying before. He just needs to be a small piece of the publish here and grow for next year. Yeah I'm going to say that. I don't think he's a do anything specific deontay they Johnson because it's not like he John Johnson has to do much to outshine. Would Antonio Brown did as a rookie. You can't compare a rookie to someone who's been in the year or been been in the league now as long as Antonio Brown as someone who's on the wrong side of thirty sorry I sat his name again and I and then the question I need to call him Mr third and fifth but one thing I will say is who cares about his receiving stats and touchdowns compared to A._B.. If Ben Wants to go out of his way to approve appointed A._B.. It's GonNa be through WS and through playoff ws and through super bowl ws that's the biggest way you can prove a point so that was <hes>. We got some pretty good questions there so Tony's going to going to now be a part of something that I don't know that he we weren't GonNa put you on the spot and make you make you have to come up with one of these on your own but we like to finish off the show every week. This is this is Jeff's idea of something we do in the off season. This is called are either or segment it can be steelers related plated could be sports related it could be anything related and when it comes to Brian we've definitely had some that have been anything related. Now we normally finish up with Bryan but Bryan said he was going to volunteer to go first tonight with his either or question so Brian. You know what it's GonNa be disappointing for your first one because it's not going to be dirty Tony Sums I apologize but they've been on the edge before if you could ask Dave but this one concerns the steelers that I've been trying to do more steeler type either or and I know donate you grew up in Pittsburgh the Pittsburgh area I grew up in Johnstown so we watched a lot of TV lot of pop culture commercials when it when we talk about an iconic steeler commercial for you of course there's hey kid cats. There's Joe Greene in the tunnel. Coca Cola commercial or is it raging rapids with Myron Cope and Jack Lambert Kennywood is for me yeah for you not just in your you go out to this when I tony it's definitely the mean Joe Greene commercial because when I was a kid afraid of him so when I saw that commercial made me made me feel safe collegue that as much as I enjoyed the raging rapids commercial because I mean both of these are kind of a little bit before my time but it's not that I haven't seen them. I mean that that Joe Greene commercial is was iconic so it's really hard to pick against it so I'm GonNa go that way as well Brian. I love the Joe Greene Commercial. I loved the T._v.. Movie that followed it that in one thousand nine hundred eighty after a falcons game the steelers falcons game but I can't find any any record of it on the Internet whatsoever and I've been working hard to find that this week but I have some concerns about the Coca Cola commercial. Why was that kid alone unaccompanied in the tunnel? why was joe green like a what did he guzzle the whole thing and not not give him any back and the kids salkin off all upset about it <hes> then i think about the raging rapids commercial and i just watched it on youtube for apiece i'm going and i'm watching them at the first time i've probably seen it since nineteen eighty five and it's a hilarious commercial myron is sporting he's he's sporting goggles and a rubber ducky jack lambert is has a a helmet full of water pouring over his head and jack looks absolutely terrified at a few points it's just a classic commercial and as much as i get inspired by hey kid catch i i gotta have me some myron and jack together the greatest odd couple in pittsburgh steeler history i can't are i understand that one was a lot of fun to i guess i went more with with iconic than than that so <hes> unless tony hasn't either a question he wants to ask do you just want to be able to answer them and so far successful then i'll go ahead and go and then we'll double check just to give the opportunity i now that we're kind of putting you on the spot but but but this was one i'm going away from the sports realm and this this is pretty this is probably a question that people have been asked an awful lot but this was bouncing ideas off my wife and she said well why don't you ask this i said well i'm i'm just gonna take this routes all right so so you guys get to get to get into your time machine that <hes> well actually my time machine that i've constructed in my garage i'll let alone it out to you guys and you're going to get to go back in time to attend one concert concert of your choosing and but but you you have you have limited choices are you going to go back in time to yesterday to in order to catch that concert by the beatles or you're going to be putting on your blue suede shoes in order to go back in time to see elvis who wants to jump in on this one i i can definitely gonna go with elvis because of the kid and they announced his death on the air on news news nation they showed him in the white jumpsuit showed footage of them i thought that's what people look evan so i thought i'd like to see him in concert in the seventies jumpsuit elvis seventy jumpsuit elvis all right brian what what about you guys i cannot let it be i gotta take that long and winding road back to yesterday on penny lane and go with the beatles john paul ringo and george the greatest of all time i have a twelve year old son who made me go to the yesterday movie because he loves the beatles so much catch we've gone to beatles tribute <unk> groups just in fact on the the second night of the draft i'm watching the draft writing an article well at a beatles tribute concert for my family because because it was in so much to them so for me i'm a huge beatles guy and hey jude is the greatest song of all time not hey dude from the movie right i'm definitely not a dude thank you yeah by the way he was really funny yeah i heard he had a much bigger role than what people expected him to actually have in then yeah basically it was so difficult for me yeah this is a tough one <hes> we might have to have to have to call on on jeff on this one at some point because you know he's also a big music guy i think i know which way he would go i think he's going to side with brian in but me ultimately i'm going to have to go i have greatest hits albums of both groups are not both groups both artists i guess i should say but man one when it comes on and really comes down to it i think i would want to go to the concert with my wife and i'm gonna go with the one that i know she would definitely enjoy more so i know for sure that i would do it and i'd probably go this way on my own but i'm going to go into it i'm not gonna have any kind kind of suspicious minds i i'm going to go all the way down for the jailhouse rock and i am and i'm going to have to go with i will not be lonesome tonight and i will go see elvis presley with my wife that i i think that would have been really something to to see back then and i don't know that i i don't know that i'd go with the seventies jumpsuit elvis i don't know i have to say maybe i don't know what what point i i would go back that's where you would go brown so you would want to go you went you went begging elvis i want i want to delve tony i want elvis eating reading well eating hamburgers off of a success i know you're going to go out last week you brought up elvis last week this was your problem brian hi and the eye when i got this question i said it's brian going to find a way to get that line back into the show and as much as we down zone i guess the i guess you're going to have to come back and throw out your own stuff so tony that you have any luck coming up with something or do you think we should just end the show with that one act i think one okay okay whoever wants to go i it's fine mine would you rather see the steelers when one more super bowl under ben or or have the worst record in the n._f._l. get never went picked and i'm sure fire franchise quarterback not knowing you're gonna you're gonna zero on bar with and bradshaw those quarterbacks what would you rather have ooh okay so brian what have you this do you want to go with another super bowl under ben rothlisberger or having that horrendous season and getting that super high draft pick to get the next guy that's going to lead you for the next decade how did it work out for the indianapolis colts that's that's all i gotta say i'm living for the now not worried about the future who knows what's going to happen in the future they might have to wait ten years but it didn't work out in indy for andrew lock in peyton manning i want one bend to get that super bowl and i want it now yeah you know what i'm going to agree with you because like you said how it worked out with indie you know paid manning was was injured for the year they got the number one pick they got the next guy that was supposed to be what you wanted to see manning we've on how many super bowls they won so far there in indy with that so just just having that i don't think is enough you've got the you've got the quarterback that's won two super bowls i say sign me up now especially because just to give this out with with for 'cause i know jeff would make sure he brought this up the the steelers might already have their next quarterback future on the roster just just waiting so what about you tony i'm going to super bowl with ben it's three he he's a he's up there amirah fide air and is another super bowl seeing three fifteen years and i'd take that so yeah i don't super bowl under ben i think that's a good question and i think we all answered it pretty wisely i've i've met a lot of steeler fans that are so worried about life after ben that they don't even want to enjoy the now been hearing it for years that we don't have the next quarterback we need our next quarterback you know what we we need to win week one then week two then week three you know stop getting so far ahead of yourself i think that was a fantastic question so before i send us off brian do you have anything you want to put out there for the for the greater good next time we're on guys are pads well well next time you're on guys will be in pads the next time we're on for the steelers preview they will have i've already reported to camp tony anything you want to say after joining us here figured out google chrome i'm like twenty air and i can't leave we did another twenty five minutes with me on the air i am appreciative to oh hey this this is the preview this is one that jeff's like we'll try to keep it to forty minutes and it's usually an hour here we are for those of you don't know we are live on youtube and therefore you can you can rewatch this this this this this episode on youtube we are also on a whole family of of podcast basically anywhere or podcasts available you can find us also in each article with on on the behind the curtain website you can go in and and listened to the podcast i'm not as savvy at all that stuff is jeff could list off all the different places you could see it i just know it's the purple apple my phone so with that said <hes> we have we have here in the off season we will at least through next week i know we're we're we will continue to bring you the same lineup that we have which has been five podcast we've been doing each week three of which here live on youtube but you can catch them all at our on our various platforms and want to thank both of you guys tony i i was so happy to be here although i'm still the newest podcast or at b._t. s._e. <hes> you you were the newest youtuber so so it was nice to be the rookie for once so thanks for joining us and i've got to do it we've got a senate off in the style of lance williams to tune-in tele oh a friend and subscribe we'll see you next week hey it's medically host of the eater upsell before 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Yeah, I Said It: Wide Receiver is by far the biggest hole on the Steelers' roster

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Yeah, I Said It: Wide Receiver is by far the biggest hole on the Steelers' roster

"Welcome back listeners to another episode of year. I said it is always the podcast is being hosted by yours. Truly, Lance Williams. Wanna give it big shot out to my co host of the standard? It's standard and the editor of behind still curtain dot com. Jeff Hartmann also wanna give a big shot out to Brian Anthony Davis and Dade Scofield all of the other outstanding podcasters on the behind the steel curtain Ombrella. If you want to check out the podcast, we have a couple of ways to do it. You can check out some of the shows on YouTube do a search for behind is still curtain dot com or just behind still curtain. Also, you can find us on apple podcast, Google podcasts. Spotify and Stitcher. We appreciate all the support the program and the episodes and the podcast are blowing up. Make sure you check out the website as well. We remain the flagship podcast fan podcast for everything in all. All things Pittsburgh Steelers on this particular week of the show. I want to say the following year. I said it the white receiver position is the biggest hole on the Steelers roster. Now, there are some other significant areas or holes on the roster, namely depth at the safety position and the outside linebacker position. But I've said it at nauseam in this off season with the loss of that guy that went to Oakland. The biggest thing that the Steelers would have to replace would be fifteen touchdowns. And it just so happens that it comes from the wide receiver position. Now, if you compare this to ticks between the position groupings from two thousand eighteen to now nineteen last year and this year last year being the year when that guy that's now in Oakland was a participant on the football team that roster out of the white receiver. Titian produced two hundred seventy nine receptions with three thousand two hundred seventy two yards and twenty four touchdowns. Now in comparison when you look at the group this year of Moncrieff Smith, Schuster, Washington, Switzer and Rogers they amassed two hundred and twenty three catches or two thousand six hundred forty three yards and twelve touchdowns. If you subtract the catches the yards and the touchdowns, there is a gap or a hole fifty six receptions, six hundred and twenty nine yards and twelve touchdowns. The biggest of course, it's the twelve touchdowns. It's the twelve touchdown difference. Or more importantly, the fifteen touchdown difference overall or Antonio Brown, and the reason. Why not only statistically from a production perspective that the wide receiver position is the biggest is the biggest hole excuse me. It's the guys that they've brought it or who were on the roster who have to make up that production and has a Steeler fan. And as a guy that does the podcast and the guy that breaks down Steeler roster. Takes a look at the numbers takes a look guys on film breaks, everything down. It's hard to disagree with the fact that this position grouping is your biggest hole, particularly when you're second-leading wide receiver going into this season is James Connor with fifty five or sections. You look at Moncrieff forty eight receptions last year for six hundred sixty eight yards. You look at Washington sixteen receptions for two hundred seventeen yards one touchdown and of the two hundred seventeen yards forty seven. One of those yards came on one reception. Switzer thirty six receptions, two hundred and fifty three yards Rogers twelve reception seventy nine yards zero touchdowns. And if I didn't say it's what's her head one touchdown. So if you look at the three guys on the roster or the four guys and I'm not including juju in new mix. They amassed only five touchdowns five touchdowns for one hundred excuse me for one hundred two receptions, so. That can't be promising that can't make you feel good. That's an a huge hole in production and employers that you bring in to make up for that production. Let me say those names again Moncrieff Washington Switzer and Rodgers can I add the Omar, you know, lions Tigers bears own my when you get scared when you say lies Tigers and bears. Do you get scared when you say Moncrieff, Washington, switches, routers, all no, oh, no. Oh, no. Those names don't make you warm and fuzzy at night. Those names make you think of. The night is dark and full of tears for all my game. At thrones fans out there. I mean when you think about game plan, your gets this team double juju it who else can hurt you. No one can hurt you in this wide receiving group. No one. You don't fear any of those guys. Sure Moncrieff is big and fast. But this production is never made. You think that he's more than a number three wide receiver? Washington is a guy with sixteen receptions, and gets no separation Switzer and Rogers are essentially the same guys there guys that work in a slack quick twitch guys. But none of those guys scare you. None of them. You don't go to bed at night being scared of that. Think about just the recent past that guy that went to Oakland that other guys that went to Oakland, and that guy that went to Denver that was the scary group. How about that guy? That's now in Baltimore. I don't know where that guy is now that was a scary group when that guy was on the team and even that guy that went to Oakland last year in juju that was a scary combination. And as much as I love juju Smith Schuster, and as much as I think that juju kids it and does everything the right way. I'm not necessarily convinced that juju Smith Schuster is a number one wide receiver. I'm not overly convinced that defensive coordinators are scared of juju Smith Schuster. I'm not overly convinced that what Steeler fans and what we saw in the last game against Cincinnati. May not be what we see next year. I just think when I look at this roster and even more so than a safety deposition and outside linebacker position because I think those are debt issues, I think the guys that started nose positions are fairly solid. Particularly what I just look at these names. And I go Moncrieff Washington, Switzer's Rogers. Oh, no. Oh, no. Where's the explosiveness? What makes a defensive coordinator, you know, restless on night. I mean, I think I can I can guard those guys pretty much straight up the guy. I don't think I'm scared of any of those guys I think I can put extra rushers it's a defensive packages to get after big been. I think I hold up on the back end one on one. I don't I don't feel like have to drop to safeties. You know, I feel like I can put a safety in the box and really get after this running game really make the running game succeed against a head box or more defenders there because I just don't think there's a guy that beats me including juju in any of the mix. None of this makes me a frayed or scared. What I'm looking at the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm thinking I can handle those guys. So I would agree with ESPN and other places and other news sources in sports sources that say that the biggest hole on this roster is the wide receiver position. They don't have a star back there. I like stars. I like stars. And I liked that the attention that stars give you that enable other guys to eat and right now, can we save that ju ju is good enough to set? The menu is set the table. For Moncrieff, Roger Switzer, Washington out. Now is juju good enough to enable those guys to eat like that guy in Oakland was I don't think so. Really don't think. So I will be very surprised at what it looks like just on paper and looking at it. And again when you look at the absence of production, minus fifty six receptions, minus six hundred twenty nine yards and minus twelve TD's. And when you look at those guys and Moncrieff Washington, Switzer's Rogers aloe hundred receptions, five touchdowns. I don't know. It doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy it makes me feel like. Desk can't had makes me feel like, but with that we're going to conclude the program and as always tune in. Tele- friend. And subscribe.

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Yeah, I Said It: The Steelers have a depth problem at safety

Behind the Steel Curtain

10:03 min | 1 year ago

Yeah, I Said It: The Steelers have a depth problem at safety

"Welcome back listeners to another episode of year. I said it is always the program being hosted by yours. Truly Lance Williams before jumping to the program when it give it shot out. Three wise. Men, my guy Jeff Hartmann the co host of the standard, is the standard in editor of behind still curtain dot com. Also wanna give a big shot out the brunt Anthony Davis, who's in Dave Scofield the oracle of everything Pittsburgh Steelers. If you wanna catch podcast, subscribe naturally, go to apple podcast Google podcast, Stitcher, and Spotify do a search for behind the steel curtain dot com to a search for my name Lance Williams, or do a search for yet. I said or search for Steelers. Find podcast there. Subscribe, thank you in advance for doing that on this particular week's episode of year. I said it yet. I said it the Steelers have a depth problem. At safety, and I want to illustrate that by going through the depth chart one and by going through the defensive packages that the secondary will play. Let's look at the depth chart near something that should stand out to you, as I go through it at the free safety position could fluctuate due to the fact that you haven't had training camp. This is what's listed currently on the Steelers website, Sean Davis's, listed as the first drink free safety, followed by Marcus Allen. And Brian, Allan, the strong safety is terro at men's followed by Jordan dangerfield's back up to two. Other guys, listen to safeties on the roster are rookies, Trevan ask you, Henry PJ lock. The thing that stood out to me and something that should stand out to you is that only Edmunds and Davis have started more than three games. Let me say that again, only Edmunds and Davis have started more than three games in Dangerfield is the only backup safety that started a game. And in fact, he started those three games I could stop right there that in and of itself, tells you, you have a debt problem at safety, a magic scenario that if both of the starting safeties went out, you would essentially have to play a rookie and a guy with three starts. That is not the ideal position to be and to Jeff point in the Sunday, episode of the standards standard when Jeff talked about where the Steelers most vulnerable at their extremely vulnerable at the safety position. And I did a podcast earlier this year talking about how I thought the wide receiver position was the weakest position on the Pittsburgh Steeler team. But I take that back I think it's the safety position at least at the white receiver position. You got you have guys multiple guys that have had way more than three starts. You've had guys that had way more of a role on the office than just inspection teams. Unlike these guys and when you look at. It's either the six or the seven players. I mean to those guys are rookies. So I mean they're in a bad way in terms of depth. Also, if you look in terms of years, played, I mean Sean Davis is the senior statesman with four years service. So I mean, they're very inexperienced and these guys have no snaps basically they have not played. Let me just say the names again. So you can just digest what I mean when I say that they have a debt issue at the safety position. And how safety is one of those forest fire positions where if they get a rash of injuries at the safety position, they're in trouble. Let me give you the free safeties again. Sean Davis, Marcus Allen. Brian allen. You can't be confident with that. Strong safety Edmonds. Endanger field, and the others s q Henry and lock you just can't be comfortable with that as a staff. And as a fan going into this twenty nine thousand nine hundred twenty season. And I'm very surprised that Kevin colder. Mike Tomlin did not do anything to address it. Now. Let's take a look at the defense of packages and see. And there's something when I go to the packages that should stand out the first pack is debase package have played four DB's to safeties to corners, Davis, Edmonds, hate Nelson and nickel five DB's nothing, nothing extrordinary there. The safe again Davis Edmonds. The corners. Hey, Nelson hill. Presumably Hilton wins the cap battle with camps. Dime package. Sixties again Davis, Edmonds Hayden Nelson Hilton, and Sutton. And in the dollar defense seven DVD's Davis Edmonds hate Nelson, Hilton Sutton, and just for kicks giggles will throw Artie burns in there as the fifth cornerback in the dollar package. Now, something should stood out to you as I went through all of those packages who are the safeties in every pack data's in Edmonds. How can two guys play in every package in every single game. The NFL is a war retraction. And if you tell me that these guys are going to hold up. Through sixteen games. I got swamped land that I could sell you. In fact, if you believe that these guys are going to hold up under that burden of being the two safeties that play in every package. I would even suggest to you that the Cincinnati bungles win a Super Bowl. I mean you just can't I mean the cupboard is bare at the safety position. And I think that the front office and Tomlin and Cobra have not done the Steelers Justice by leaving this Burton or this empty. I mean, the coffers are empty at the position. And even when you look at the two starters I mean Edmonds is going into his second season he did not like the world on fire. He's a growing player would if he slumps Davis is a growing player. You know, many people in the fan base, even coaching staff has been mixed on Davis. I think Davis in my opinion is sending player I like him as a player, but needless to say they don't have to Pro Bowl safety on the roster. They probably don't even have a safety on the roster. That could be touted as the best safety in a division. I mean, Eric wet. Oh, in my opinion is the best safety division bar. None. I think it's easy. Easy. Now, I've illustrated the issues and adept issues. Now, you might ask and I wanna put a positive spin on it. You know, I'm paying Jeff is joy, you know, Jeff is always going to take the perspective that these guys are gonna play better going to be coached up to play well, so on, so that's fine. And I don't discount that any of that could happen. The issue is the debt issue is that if any of these guys get injured the odds are that they will get injured because it's football. I mean you have cars crashing into each other issues beings at high speeds, trying to not in decapitate people's heads and rip their heads off. You're going to get injuries. In the case of an injury or a case of slumping player. I don't think that the staff would feel confident and Marcus Allen Brian, Allan, or Jordan, Dangerfield playing a high level of snaps. So what's your only recourse? I mean Steelers only recourse, I think, is the watch the waiver wire over the course of these camps and to bring in a veteran safety, they may be half to bring into veteran safeties. Maybe you cut one of the Alan guys and you cut Jordan Dangerfield and you bring a veteran safety, you know, maybe not thirty or older, but you bring an older guy, maybe twenty eight twenty nine I guy that is played some snaps at a guide that has played in a scheme. Addict LeBow coat scheme. Dom Capers type scheme, somebody that has played a lot of snaps maybe in a part time starter or backup role in dime or initial because other than that you might be at harm's way, because another thing that they could do is, they could try to, you know, maybe flex Mark Barron into a backup safety in the dime, or maybe even a nickel or maybe even a dollar if one of those guys struggles starting safeties or those guys get hurt. Maybe he's the guy that can play a no sub packages, but they brought him into be, you know, more of an inside linebacker, potentially the starter. So hopefully Devin Bush, maybe beat him out and he is that backup flex safety, but Barron, probably can't play free safety. He's more of in the box strong safety guy, particularly if you want him to play inside linebacker. So when you look at the safety position Steelers, have a significant issue there, and they're going to have to address it because if they get some injuries or either one of those safeties gets hurt they're going to be in a world of hurt and trouble. And it's something that they have to address. And I hope they address soon because I like the way the rest of his defense, looks, but I think the safety position is probably the weakest position on the Pittsburgh Steelers team going into twenty nineteen with that we're going to conclude the program, and as always tune in Tele friend and subscribe.

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Yeah, I said It: Why ESPN Hates the Steelers

Behind the Steel Curtain

50:52 min | 1 year ago

Yeah, I said It: Why ESPN Hates the Steelers

"Welcome back listeners to the first live episode of year. Yeah I said it this is new for this is new for me so what we're doing on the channel and on the platform is all of the shows on onto behind a steel curtain platform or going live so this inaugural episode of Yeah said I wanNA thank Jeff Hartmann. I WANNA thank Dave Scofield. I I WANNA thank Brian Anthony. Davis WHO's Pat Davis D. Oracle. Thank you all those guys for assisting me and getting set up. Thank you jeff especially facetime me this this morning in getting this started. Hopefully all you guys are seeing this as I do this <hes> because right now. It's the first time that I've done this so I'm kinda trying to check on my phone as I do this to see you know if things are live if it's going on if if somebody's out there checking out the program please send me a message to make sure that the show is going on before I jump into all of this stuff is always when I give a big shout out to everybody out there to support behind still current dot com best website by far jeff does a fantastic job Dave Brian Anthony Davis all the writers for the website do a fantastic job and giving you guys fantastic content for the program also before we'll be good started into the topic of Yeah I said it <hes> Jeff talked about Jeff wrote an article that supported the show the auto show the podcast show and by the way you always be able to find this on pox. You always be able to get this on pilots and I'm GONNA Apologize. It's a live show is not going to always be at the same time like Jeff said we have kids a lot of times on soccer. You you know Saturdays or my soccer days. My daughter plays soccer. She's a monster by the way big up to Lama into football club autos guys play for Lomb or any united <hes> <hes> oh yeah so it must be working big up to Isaac big up to Felicia Ballard as always. We have the super chat feature. If you get a super chat question aging in we do those super chats I I kind of liked this format. Feel Kinda comfy. I feel Kinda comfy. You see I got my. I got my Yoda Coffee Cup up so the force is strong with me big up today also a big star wars fan. Let me take a sip of my Yoda. My Yoga cut real quick that was forced coffee baby that was forced coffee because a cat needs it. 'cause it's early on the west coast big up also WANNA give big shot out to my kids third down in L._A.. Who went to Disneyland? Hopefully you guys <hes> had a fantastic job at Disneyland and anybody who seen the new star wars stuff. Please let me know but but Jeff wrote an article the other day in support of my audio part of Yeah I said it about you know. Don't don't believe anything that you're you're read or you here at training camp and the reason I say that is because it seems to a particular lands first of all what you're seeing in camp. He don't know if it's really real for instance right. There was a clip clip of Johann getting beat on a double move by James Washington. We don't know if since his training camp we don't know of Joe Haden was working on a technique which would cloud it. What a reporter saw you see different lineups? You see different drills. It's hard to see see how it all fits together now. You can observe injury. That's accurate <hes> but you can't really glean a lot from it because it's guys going against guys is this isn't live bullets. This isn't live action. This isn't live theater now. It's good to hear that Boswell is making his kicks. I mean that's awesome but we don't know what it's going to look like until <hes> you know to the game star <hes> also pick up to Isaac who said Star Wars Land is awesome. The ride is great but they waited two hours to go see it because the places pack. I think my daughter said that the star wars is right was also great but it wasn't that Pat <hes> so you gotta be wary of what you see in what you read in training camp unless because even if you're there. You just don't know what you're actually seeing now. Jeff had me laughing this morning. 'cause a guy probably got really upset at. He said <hes> he commented. Who Am I to tell you guys what to think? I ne- that that's Wacky until you guys what to think. I've got the Pittsburgh steelers shirt on. I've got the steel city hat on right now so I can't tell you what the thing I watch a ton of film I. I'm the guy that can tell you what to think. People tell you guys what they think. All the time I mean it suggestions on ads newspapers West whereas I mean that's what happens we live in America. People tell us what to think all the time and so crazy Kris Roe crazy Chris to thirty thirty five wrote only real thing I know is Bush will be a monster this year and I can't wait to see him unleashed. I hope so but what I can tell you you is don't believe anything you see a camp or anything you read. Football is great. It's great in the sense in sports are great innocence that win the game start. You get all your answers there. You know 'cause it always happens that camp stories encamp stuff. It doesn't align with a lot of times what you see in the regular season so now we're hearing Ben. Rothlisberger is is more excited than ever to play and he's got his love and excitement at first of all. If I got paid that much do anything I would lose. No love love forever. I would love to come to work every day. I don't understand how drama can make your work in the workplace environment not something or something that you want to go. I get that but make him on Ben. Come on man but again. I can tell you guys what to think because hell you're used to people telling you what to think and to to Bergman. I got the hat on N._F._l.. Shop Dot Com but I got it a couple years ago. You know they rotate the hacks Max out and that's one thing I'm GonNa do on a live program because I may not be that interesting every week so I'm GonNa try to make my lids interesting so this is a live from a couple of years ago. Oh I love this. I got a new one coming and what I try to do is rotate my leads every year so I'm GonNa Bring back some leads every week. That's going to be new LID and I'M GONNA wear my most coveted live next week. On the show I have a steeler hat that actually has my my birth date on the half but enough of the Kennedy intro stuff enough of that let me jump into the meat and gravy of the show but before afford I do WanNa hit one topic before that and that is yeah. I said it E._S._p._N.. Hates hate the steelers and the reason why I know they hate the steelers is because of the rankings that they wrote for the roster positions for the Pittsburgh steelers but before I jump into that me and Jeff touched on something on the standard the standard last week about Colbert in Tomlin and Ben Roberts Burger and how it seems that all of their contracts are lining up in terms of their expiration Tomlin. Well let me the top Colbert Tomlin been. That's like a law firm. Those are the partners of the law firm for the Pittsburgh steelers. Let me say to get it'll be Rooney. Covert Tomlin been that is the the leadership ownership group of the Pittsburgh steelers because of the success of the steelers have had Colbert hurt. Tomlin been those particular partners their junior partners. Where Rooney is the senior partner? Those guys are are GonNa stay intact because they want so much now. A lot of fans might be disappointed. steelers have not won a super bowl in the last ten years ears ten or eleven. I don't know how to count. Sometimes I get confused with the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen somebody will correct me. <hes> Oh increa- <hes> been up to cre- free curry said the N._F._l.. Hates to steal that might be right. They definitely hated James Harrison. <hes> and that's why the steelers did it not vote to approve the collective bargaining agreement. They were the only team to not approve the new agreement and it's going to be I think a workshop which anyway cre- also I'm. I'm so glad you're saying that Lance camp stores or a joke. It happens every year that things are being said and when the season starts things are not what's going on exactly cre- Ah Creek exactly fantastic point. That's my point in a nutshell so with that being said Colbert Tom and Ben or going to stay together as long as been there. Once been retired who knows what happened is is going to happen but that that's a great combination so Colbert's Colbert's year to year stuff. Don't really believe that and also anytime its year to year. Somebody says they're happy with year to year. Don't don't believe that that that's Boca 'cause nobody. If I have a if there's a lot of women on the live chat riddle me this answer this question for me. Excuse me we're rubbing behind if your husband and or your partner or your boyfriend comes home and says I'm going to be working mom too. I'm really happy with that. I really want to evaluate on a month to month basis of whether I want to be here let me just say some favors or not going to be exchanged in your house. If you know what I'm saying <hes> Najjar head on the live chat with a wink wink some type of Emoji that tells me that you understand so if you come home every month and your spouse partner boyfriend whoever says <hes> you don't know if you're going to pay and you think this is going down consistently is not going to happen. Oh It's not gonNA happen. They're going to be some benefits and some favors in your house that you aren't going to get because does your significant other doesn't know if you're going to be bringing some cash home. Del riggins gets it. They're you're GonNa be so rough times at the House creek gets hit. There's gotTa be some Rough Times at the house. There's going to be a lot of picked up. Frustration it and trust me. It ain't going work. Sadie knows what I'm saying yet right so trust me if you are working year to year on a contract basis and getting evaluated that way that's called E._S._P._N.. Hates the steelers and let me start with the list that E._S._p._N.. Put out let me find the graphic on my phone the E._S._p._N.. Put out about the top Q._B.'s in the national football league. Let me read them down. The list drew brees Patrick Mahomes. Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers Philip Rivers Andrew Look Russell Wilson Jared Goff Ben Rothlisberger and Baker Mayfield if that is in hey now this is e._s._p._N.. Reporting the N._F._l.. Player poll but on E._S._p._N.'s rankings as well they ranked the steelers roster position at number nine and that's largely reflected of WHO's the starter not the depth behind on the position because as we all know the national football league. It's pretty impossible to have quality depth behind your number one star that if your starter goes out so you're pretty much a you know arse out best trying to I'm trying to keep this kid friendly and ourselves in Isaac Isaac Achille their rights big up Isaac. Tom Brady is so overrated right now. Yeah he was great for a while but he ain't crap anymore. Well I'd have to disagree I. I think Tom is still one of the best in the business but I don't think Tom's number one so. Let's look at that list unless you start with the Q._B.'s. There is no way in the world. Let me just say this. There is no way in the world that Baker Mayfield should be ranked behind Ben Rothlisberger at the quarterback position. Baker Mayfield is not in the stratosphere rattus fear of Ben Rothlisberger. Let me ask this. Let me pose this question on the live chat and again we have the super chat feature it hit the super chat feature donate to the show. If you still feel inclined that will your question to the top of the live chat and I'll jump on all of those questions but but Brittany this listeners is Baker Mayfield in the stratosphere of Ben Rothlisberger and and also if you look at the list been rothlisburger in my opinion of this list slots in at number six I do agree that drew brees mahomes homes Brady and Aaron Rodgers Philip rivers right now are better than Ben Rothlisberger. Let me say that again and Y'all might be upset with me about this. This breeze Mahone Brady Rodgers in Philip rivers are the five best quarterbacks in the national football league but Ben Rothlisberger asperger's in my opinion is better Andrew Luck. He's better than Russell Wilson. He's better than Jared Goff and he's better Baker Mayfield. There is no no doubt that he is better than those guys. He's more accomplished. It is in a season last year albeit. He threw sixteen interceptions in my opinion was better than all of those other guys because he threw for over five thousand yards. He cleans up the interceptions. It's it's darn near. You're one of the best seasons in football last year I mean he threw for even more yards than Patrick mahomes. I'd like to see cleaner football from them but come on man there's no way in the world that anybody would want Baker Mayfield over Ben Rothlisberger and so that that's just a start now because I'm doing a live chat is hard for me to interact with the spreadsheet but I'm going to try to do the spreadsheet look at the spreadsheet as well and look at the live chat yet and so what E._S._p._N.. Did is they broke down each roster position and rank each roster position over the course of each roster position <hes> and so for the steelers so they started an office the side of football. I go quarterback running back. Why Rec- we're tied at all line or defense? They go Interior D._l.. Or defensive line edge rushers they go off-ball linebackers cornerback safeties and then overall so at the quarterback position day ranked division as follows nine steelers are nine. It's always gonNA start. steelers browns bengals ravens so steelers nine browns thirteen bingos twenty four ravens twenty six like I said as when we started this I think the steelers should be much higher. I think the steelers should probably be around six because that ranking to me is largely based on your starter not necessarily the depth now at the running back position they ranked the steelers fourteen browns as to the bengals goals as ten in the Ravens nineteen now physically now. This is just physically I think Joe Oh mixing physically is more explosive and a better pat physically than James Connor but there's no way in a world that I think Joe Mixing is a better player than James Name's Connor. Now I agree with the browns ranking of number two at the running back position because you got Kareem Hunt on suspension and you got up and and you got Duke Johnson Junior I mean that is a great tandem at the running back position and I did a show a long time ago about how I thought the steelers need to scrap there holier than thou mentality and sign Kareem Hunt. I think if you put Kareem Hunt With James Connor Aka the terminator then there's no question that the steelers would have the best back so let me jump into and pick up to rhino tool jumped in the super chat. I don't know if this is a question or just a statement because Ryan just wrote E._S._p._N.. Gets a lot of breaking news stories wrong. You're all right. I mean that's not a question. That's that's what the new cat say all the time. Now hashtag facts that I get that right if we got any a young listeners Hashtag fax desks right the only people that get stuff more wrong than E._S._p._N.. Is Chris Broussard Crispus Argh. It's everything wrong and I like Chris but Hashtag facts so I agree with E._S._p._N.. At the BROWNS I don't know if they should be as high as two but I know that that running back tandem is the best it at least in the A._F._C. North now at the wide receiver position they ranked the steelers at seventeen the browns at five the Bengals at nine and the Ravens at thirty two. I don't think they're necessarily off there because you put Odell you put him in there with <hes> Jarvis Landry. I mean that's a nice hand. I mean I I can't front that. Ah That's a nice twosome. The best wide receiver for the Pittsburgh steelers is Juju Smith Schuster. We get that the ravens are just horrible at the wide receiver position so that's not bad there but this is where I think they start to get off a bit at the tight end position. They have the browns at six. The steelers are twenty the Bengals at twenty four and a ravens at fifteen riddle me. This listeners and I'm opposed this question to you in the A._F._C. North. Who Do you guys think I know you? Guys are a little bit biased. Because you're steeler fans. You should be who's he's the best tight end in the A._F._C. North. I love the physical capabilities of Joe Khoo. I mean joke who's a physical freak. I loved and joke who at Miami joke who can run he's great but he ain't done crap. He has not done S. H.. Asterik Patrick Asterik in the national football league and Vance McDonald physically is awesome. I think Vance McDonald is the best tied in the A._F._C.. See North now. This is the N._F._l.. Rankings but I don't think the gap between the BROWNS and steelers is fourteen fourteen eighteen slots I don't. I don't think it's that because I think from the depth perspective. The steelers have limited depth that tied in. I don't like grumble behind them as the second time in I don't like that and I think that tied in is a position that the steelers may potentially look to try to bolster her with this additional cap space that they have also you know looking at the waiver wire potentially trying to pick up a tight in here or there but I don't think it's six fourteen. I don't think the difference is there so I think it's I think E._S._p._N.. Is Hating. I think they're flat out. Hey I think Vance with Donald is the best tied hiding now where E._s._p._N.. Give the steelers some love is at the offensive line position. They ranked the steelers offense line at four Brown's twenty one bengals at thirty one and the Ravens at twenty and when I look at this division and why I think that the steelers really will be very good this year particularly as it relates to the A._F._C. North is at the offensive line hi position. I think the steelers have the best offensive line football. I'm not mad E._S._P._N.. SORTA hate on the steelers putting them at four but but I think the steelers his offensive line is the thing that stands apart from everybody else in the division and I think that's why this offense is still going to flourish but but listeners who you think is the best tied in in a division. Give me give me your thoughts. I disagree a little bit with Darren Dalton Exhibitor Xavier Grumble how I don't know exhibitors not smart football player that that play in Denver was just not very smart smart so we're going to have to see that so that's on the offense of side of football. The steelers don't rank in one one position the steelers rank in the top five only in one position. That's the offensive line and they only rank in the top ten at another position position quarterback position. They have the browns top seven running back why receiver in tied in they smoking man like i. I don't know what their smoking is. A Chiba is at the sticky icky our nose and sour diesel diesel is a Dank Rave is that rare interior defensive line guy that can actually penetrate on the nose and get sacks pushed a pocket stout in the run plan all this up packages. He is vital to defense. He's a guy that if he went down next year that would be very tough on the Pittsburgh steelers now in terms of the rest of the the divisions the Browns at Nineteen Appeals Fifteen Ravens at eight no hate their from E._S._p._N.. Edge rushers they have the browns again ranked ranked number three steelers twenty two bingles eighteen ravens twenty nine and again. This is a N._F._l.. Ranking thinking not just a divisional ranking. I can't it's hard for me to disagree with that. I think T. J. Watt should have the steelers much higher than twenty two T._J.'s production alone this low ranking. It's a little bit of Shade Jay. Dare not a ton not Santa Shade in a budget pre or as I should say to pre but myles Garrett you understand why the browns are three so not too much shade there I I should say in terms of off ball. Linebackers steelers rated twenty one brown's twenty two day have the bingles thirty or excuse me the bungles thirty and the Ravens Ravens thirty one I think Vince I think when Bush and bearing slot in I think that's higher than twenty one. I think that's a little bit off. I don't like Vincent coverage but Benson's thumper. He's a physical player. He brings that Jenner say Coie saw that physical toughness in that quality that you need so I think I think they're hating somewhat there. I wouldn't put the steelers as a top ten interior <HES> or off ball linebacker team but I think they should be much higher than twenty one fifteen fourteen sounds about right to me. Terms of cornerback steelers rated fourteen <hes> the Browns sixteen day have the bungled at fifteen and they have have the ravens at four. I think the steelers cornerback combination hang in Nelson is a bit better than that I would put the steelers probably maybe around eleven maybe around ten I think it's definitely better than the browns and it should be a bigger distance between them and the browns because the browns have young guys ward is salad greedy Williams. WHO's a rookie? You don't know how those guys play hate and his better than any corner that the browns have and I think Nelson is better than any corner. The browns have so I think the gap between the steelers and the browns should be much bigger so I think E._S._p._N.. is off there in terms of the safety position the safe these are just bad flat out that they have the whole division bad steelers twenty six Browns at twenty five boggles at sixteen and they have the ravens at to the Ravens at two understandable. The standards are twenty six. I think is severe hate. I mean there's only thirty two teams in the National Football League. I think the combination of ethics in Davis is not one of the worst safety tandems in the national football. League Edmonds is probably one of the most what I think the most most athletic one of the most athletic safeties in the League played a lot of steps as a rookie is growing in the position. I think Davis is a solid player Solid Glue Guy I twenty six at the safety position basically saying you have the worst safeties in the national football league. I think that's completely off and completely a sign of hate from the from E._S._p._N.. And how they look at this dealer team overall they had the steelers roster ranked at eleven they have the browns owns roster at nine. They had the bungles at twenty six and the Ravens at twenty one. If you think the browns are better better than steelers and you think their roster is better than the steelers your absolute hater. You're an APP salute salute hater the quarterback position alone. Let me let me just took a sip of my coffee 'CAUSE I. I need an injection of the force real real quick. I love force coffee when I bring this show too. You guys it gets me pumped up. Puts me in a nice little steeler alert mood. I get pumped up eighty north side one five two three three big up there everybody out there in Manchester big up to all my family and Pittsburgh. The gap gap between Baker Mayfield and Big Ben is enough to elevate the steelers roster ranking according according to E._S._p._N.. Above the Browns we all know quarterback is the most important in position in the national football league and because of that that separates rosters what good is having a great roster across the board if your quarterback is trash all that means is you're going to struggle Duggal. You're not gonNA win consistently because of been alone the steelers have a top ten roster her in the National Football League period their roster is better than the browns period E._s._p._N.. Is Absolutely Lee Hating and to pick a team big up to Braddock as well big up to eighty seven five three and to pick a team like the bengals or the browns the ravens over the steelers if it's not the ravens is asinine the bungles or the bungles day they steak and the browns look man to the browns win something I believe in nobody should believe i. I don't know what these guys are thinking. I don't know what these guys are doing but E._S._p._N.. Absolutely hasty Pittsburgh steelers but I want to open up the live chat. If there is something that you guys want to discuss before we conclude the program again. We have the super. We're chat feature. I'm going to go through some of the live chat. I don't know if you guys would put questions but I'm GonNa comment or some of the guys who said <hes> big up to Grayson Brown around just chimed in and said Baker is the most overrated Q._B.. The browns dea solid the steelers were quietly. Take a division this year they will quietly win and remain underrated underrate it this year with victory in New England. You know what I I've been more positive this year and Jeff knows if you guys listen to the standard standard. We're going to bring it on a standard of the standard tomorrow for you. I I'm and really close to picking steelers in the opening game for a couple of reasons one historically the Patriots views the first four games as an extending training camp to from offensive perspective. The Patriots don't really have any weapons number three. I love the approach. The steelers took against the Patriots last year. I thought they played very very good. Quality Defense against the Patriots and I think that the steeler football team going to twenty nineteen has has a chip on his shoulder and they're going to start to get it off against New England but we're going to break that game down as we get close to the gang Bergman chime this headlands what's your honest opinion on Devin Bush and how much of an effect is he going to have this year. Why haven't seen them so until I see him play Toyota football game? I'm just going to couch it by saying this physically. He's a backer that you want to play in sub package football and nickel don his injection of speed along with Barron and E._S._p._N.. wrote an article about the steelers team speed. I kind of agreed with that. They didn't count they hate the steelers as much in that article but when you can inject speed in the middle of your defense from has to Hash it just makes you much more flexible and I did a podcast awhile ago. Oh Yeah I said it about how Williams is not gonNA play. Make sure you go do subscribe to the podcast apple podcast Google Pas whatever do a search for yeah I said podcast and and flip through there and take a look for the podcast and I said defense is not gonNA play as many snaps this year because I think some package packers football it just makes sense that you have the more athletic more rangy guy a guy that can cover and a guy that can run side to side so essentially they're going to put too will backers in the middle of that defense. It's that can run vertically and horizontally so you don't get stretched out as much. If you WANNA see what I'm talking about. Go take a look at the Carolina game. Take a look at McCaffrey Afra against vicks Vince Williams in space absolute mismatch and you can minimize those mismatches by putting speed in the interior of your defense and hey the Rosetta stone big up to Felicia. Hey Felicia has hey thank you for the three dollars Felicia big with the fist-bump three. Do you have a question. If you're paying you get a question so if you're GONNA do the super chat feature make sure you ask a question with the super chat feature but big up to Felicia for chiming in there <hes> let me scroll up <hes> a little bit more <hes> and see if you guys is <hes> <hes> what's going out shin-ei. I'm sorry if I get it wrong. shin-ei Yvette wrote the following Mr Third and fifth. Let me explain I am not going to use that guy's name that guy's initials anything until that Guy Mr Thirty and V unblocks me on twitter and I call him Mr Thirty and V because that's what he was traded for Mr Third and fifth until Mr Third and fifth unblocks me on twitter. I won't say his name and then I may not say is named after that she wrote A._B.. Demanded the ball flat out. I believe that's what caused Ben to have a career high interceptions. Now I guess to play the Game mm-hmm and no pressure on feeding the ball certain players. I'M GONNA disagree slightly with that. When you have the ball in your hands and I've watched every interception by been it's hard to say whose fault it is because you don't know what the particular play claw call for but you can see when guys are throwing in the coverage right you can absolutely we see that? If you have a football in your hands ultimately it is your responsibility in terms of where the ball goes chiefs and if you're taking good care of it so some of that has to be fifty fifty it has to be on been it has to be on A._B._C.. You can't force been to throw throw it in the air and said he throws it. He has to bear responsibility for that Grace Brown chimed in and said the steelers were have acquired twelve and four the season whisper record this year just a gut feeling I picked him to go to Levin and five Jeff my co host of the Standard Standard Aka joy. He picked him goes thirteen in three. That's a lot of <hes> Ryan asked is everyone else limited to fifty characters in a super chat I believe you should be I mean this isn't twitter. I don't even know what the twitter limit is but I would think that you're not limited to those amount of characters. Everybody's jumping chanted on the third and fifth shoddy maze or she chimed in Mr Third and fifties emotional Bergman wrote thirty thirty fifth is an absolute p Yano what you're saying <hes> Bergman wrote he has thin skinned <hes> Andre Andre Coleman <hes> chimed in and said Oh let me jump to the Super Chat <hes> here because Felicia chimed in as well <hes> with another super she said no questions. I'm waiting on preseason to how the rookies in Boswell play out. I'm team Dobbs. Do Tell Jeff good job so oh Felicia. Thank you for ten bucks. I'm waiting on the preseason so I think that's a big thing I mean I think that's a that's not a question but that's a great point point. When I looked at the steelers season 'cause I always do a seasonal rewatch given all the drama reported drama given all the other issues this year the lack of turnovers etc if the steelers kicking game resembles anything anything familiar to the previous season they go to the playoffs I mean period is the team perfect absolutely not but they go to the play offs? Grayson and Brown asked the question. Are you going to the forty niners steeler game. I'M GONNA try. I'M GONNA try to go to that game <hes> n._F._l.. Tickets are expensive a and we gotta do the show for you so it'll be interesting to see if I go <hes> if I do jeff will be doing the postgame solo but I I may go to the game getting the Santa Clara to go. The game is pretty tough. Tickets are really expensive. I mean I've said to myself that. The next dealer game that I'll see live will be a super bowl and that'll be I mean I've seen steeler games aims at three rivers. I see them at Heinz. I've seen him on the road. <hes> I mean I've seen them in the playoffs A._F._C.. Championship I mean I've done everything in terms of looking in and watching it. The steelers live I've even watch steelers and consecutive weeks. I went to a game in Pittsburgh next week. I went to a game in San Francisco. So I've had a charm steeler experience experience. Hell I used to live around the corner for the Pittsburgh steelers on the north side. I live so close to three rivers stadium. Then on Sundays I could hear Myron Cope's voice voice on the P._A.. From outside my grandmother's House I'm a northside boy one five two one two one five two three three Manchester Chester County stand up so hey hey I've lived a charm steeler life and I do this. Show for you guys so I maybe there. I may not let me jump into a couple more questions. <hes> <hes> steelers will be L._A.. Also I may go to that game. I mean that I I don't know I mean that that's traveling to Carson and that soccer field <hes> <hes> so so I may not do that as well <hes> Dave Scofield wrote I saw Felicia. The secret acre is out. What did you see let us all <hes> do do partake in the secret and let us know what the secret is? Bergman Bergman would love to have seen the playoff game at three rivers. Let me give you a story about that now. My brother is a fan of that team up North <hes> let me it says something about that team up north as retains the Tomlin now. We know that there were minority owners that did not want to see my Tom. Tom Get extended and and I think one of the issues in the biggest issues that steeler nation has with Mike Tomlin is expectation expectation when you're the coach Pittsburgh steelers and you have six championships the expectation from the fan base is super bowl or bus realistically realistically only one team win the Super Bowl so when you have a super bowl or bust mentality from the fan base and probably from. I don't know if the ownership is as bad as the fans yes. I shouldn't say bad. Every season is a failure so anytime you don't win super bowls or you're not earnestly competing for super bowls. It's a failure so it's biggest issue in terms of how Tom is. Negatively judged is the fan base is expectation number. Two is the Patriots that team up North that that's why steeler fans don't like Tom and Tomlin is embraced as much as I think he should be for a guy in the last ten years. WHO's one hundred three games for a guy? That's one hundred twenty five games over the course of his career for for a guy. That's won a super bowl and a guy. That's won six division titles and to A._F._C. Championships. That's why I don't think he's love is because of the Patriots that team up North because of their success and then rinse repeat winning the A._F._c. going super bowls and Tyner steelers so given in the backdrop of the Patriots. The steelers have done excellent over the last ten years but if you measure it from that team up north standard it's not as good it just isn't as good and so when you market and you put it up against that there's going to be hate. There's going to be absolutely Salou hate when it comes to my Tomlin so I mean that's the big reason <hes> let me jump into <hes> Dino's question. Pick up the dino you know what is the reason why you think they hate Big Ben the steelers I agree with you. They hate winters people that have success if people who win if you're a winner you hate that's why that's why there was a saying in rap and hip hop and you know people to say look. If you ain't got haters you ain't what are you doing if everybody likes you and you ain't nobody jealous of what you don't you ain't doing much people hate people were jealous. List people are envious of other people's success. That's what it is. If you ain't doing nothing you ain't GonNa get no hate and that's why the steelers are hated needed because they got six championships because they went all the time because they have a story franchise. They had a best ownership group in football and that's something that the E._s._p._N.. Didn't rank best ownership groups issued have been Rooney's at absolute number one. That's why they hate the classic colors the physical football the passionate fan fan base. That's why E._S._P._N.. Hates that's why everybody hates the Pittsburgh steelers because it ain't steeler country steeler universe. That's that's why people hate. They hate because they ain't us. I hope I didn't borrow the phrase from the the team up north so jeff revealed the secret. The secret was Felicia being team Dobbs with Jeff and I did team Rudolph that that's Pretty Funny Josh Dobbs. I don't know I mean hey. I mean the thing with Mason Rudolph. If Mason Rudolph can't beat out Josh Dobbs this this year as the number two quarterback then that will go down as a really bad draft pick that they traded some assets to move up to acquire a guy. I can't beat out Josh with Dobbs Smitty seven five three asked. What do you think about Benny Snail? He's been looking good in training camp and he's actually doing good against Devon Bush from time to time. I would think don't believe anything you read about binny's snail I would say wait to see Benny Snail play in the first preseason game and if you WanNa make any judgments about binny's Schnell make those judgments after you watch him play football game <hes> let me go back through the live chat to see it. We have any more questions before we <hes> kind of tied this up but I do want to ask you you guys. How do you guys like the format? I can say this right now i. I'm enjoying going live this. This is fun for me. How do you guys is like the format I mean? How am I doing? Please evaluate me. I mean this is this is new for me going live. It's a little bit different from doing apart. My my part is a lot more scripted. You don't have a lot more notes. I can edit and do dirt and certain things you know what I make some mistakes in the park. I think it's really nice. I like the freedom him of being lives and I'm definitely going to bring you guys in new lead. I may even bring the mask back. If I get more contributions in a super shaft so give me some feedback before or you know I jumped out of here in terms of the large pod. I'll pick up to two shot as shoddy. Hopefully I'm saying it right. <hes> she said love it <hes> crease at Lubbock Bergman Dorn great love it <hes> roughhouse boxing has T._v. has has a question. How much playing time do you see ya getting and Willie? Cut It into bins time yeah I. I don't know if he was gonNA cut largely into. Would I think he'll be a situational pass rusher. I think in some obvious passing downs I think they will incorporate all line there but I don't think he's GonNa cut too much into buzz. Playing time you guys got to always remember buzz getting paid close to ten million dollars so for ten million dollars. They don't WanNa see that man play football <hes> <hes> Shanna event or shin-ei vet. I'm terrible with names I if I if I flop on big up the shot a okay I said it right if your name please correct me <hes> steelers are America's real team dobbs keep throwing in accessories during practice they might trade him for a good drafty. Ain't nobody giving you nothing for dobbs except hardship and pain and struggle. That's about all you're going to get Joshua Dobbs. You wouldn't get me for Joshua Dobbs ops. You wouldn't get an eighth round traffic. You wouldn't get a tenth round draft. Pick and you know I'm being facetious. I'm being facetious big up to <hes> Felicia <hes> who wrote love it. You're on it lands. You need a collab- with Dave more with thank you Felicia <hes> I I will. I do want to jump onto some. I asked because I'm a stash. I'm a stat guy to <hes> big up. The Logan says Lubbock keep them coming. <hes> thank you for another contribution of a Buck Felicia. <hes> a big up to Michael Perry capital Miss e Vesa Sean Davis's garbage a keep it real real. Keep it real and if you think he's garbage. You know this is a little positive for me. It's a little bit of a love fest today so I love the negative comments as well <hes> so keep it real. Keep it real you know if you think he's garbage. Let me know I'll think he's garbage. I think he's average. I don't think he's garbage. I think he's average. I think he salad. I would like to see him. Make more plays. Show more range make more plays on the football but he is not garbage. I think he's average but I think this has been a great great start. I want to thank everybody for chiming in Oh. Shanna Shanna not had okay like like Hanna is Shanna so I wanna ask you a question. Are you hard like Anna. Are you tough like Hannah the Amazon prime show. Can you survive in the wilderness like Hannah Anyway. That's just a side note. <hes> let me get out of here. I want to thank all you guys for China into the program and this has been fun. 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Standard is the Standard: Will the bye help, or hurt, Pittsburgh in Week 8?

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Standard is the Standard: Will the bye help, or hurt, Pittsburgh in Week 8?

"The Pittsburgh Steeler fans. Welcome back to another episode of the standard is a standard. I am Jeff Hartmann editor of behind the curtain dot com here with us. Always coz, Lance Williams lands are you deceiving? I'm doing fantastic. Jeff. How's it down your way? It's been a long off week. You know, I mean the bye week typically is long, but it seems like this has been a seems like forever since the Pittsburgh Steelers played in the last time they stepped on the field. It was weeks. And they beat the Cincinnati Bengals. We've talked about that game to death. There's really no need to talk about it anymore. Let's talk about right off the bat. Let segments rumors flying around. If for those of you out there listening or watching thinking the Steelers we're going to try to trade for Patrick Peterson. That's something land said that he wished they would do. He said sell the farm essentially to get this guy. Well, Patrick Peterson comes out today. And he and out this is Wednesday occasional listing on Thursday. And he says I'm of cardinal for life. This organization is treated me. Well, amp sticking with them. So he's not available. I don't even think they would trade or no matter what. Okay. So that's the big name guy. And he's out. He's out of the picture. The October thirtieth deadline is quickly approaching Lance. If you're the Steelers if you're looking at positions to possibly trade for someone. We know cornerback is going to be on the top of everyone's list, what other positions might you be looking for in terms of trades in. What would you give up? I guess let south have positions. I what position would you be targeting defensively? You've got to think about inside linebacker. You've gotta think about corner, but I think you also have to think about defensive lineman. You have to add another deep if you could add another defensive lineman two caliber of ties Laloo into that rotation that might not be bad as well. So what about outside linebacker? I mean, this is not that we talked about as well when we had some of those watching live in by the way, you need to if you are watching live you can go into our live, Chad and ask questions we'll get to those towards the end of the show someone asked about ally. Dania he's is capable of coming off of the injured. Reserve list soon, they'll they'll only carrying three Outside Linebackers, and let's be honest. It's really to Anthony Shaquille O does not bring much if anything as a pass rusher. He's more of a special teams guy would Dampier position that you would target or you just okay with what they have. No, given the DEP giving those numbers. Yes, you you might target that as well. Because of either one of those guys go down to pre or Mr. watt. I'm not gonna go with the initials. Mr. watt goes down. You're in trouble. You're some D trouble. Because given the scheme shift of how the defensive line that are. More to gap ING now in the pressure is more dependent on the Outside Linebackers. You definitely need some depth. But I would imagine either one of those guys with down, you know, they might go back to a one, you know, one gaps game and kind of switch it back to what they were doing the try to compensate for lack of pressure. If one of those guys went down, but that would be tough if either one of those guys down. Yeah, I don't think anyone with a logical brain in a logical head on their shoulders would disagree with any of the positions. You just named offense though, if it was a position because I have a few positions in my head that I would possibly look for. Is there anything that you look for an offense in terms of trades or religious thinking what that pretty good is? It is don't mess up a good thing. Why receiver take look for veteran slot wide receiver third wide receiver somebody that might have had some experience with Todd Haley, I could pick up possibly the language of the offense or pick up the scheme behind. Some route combinations. What they try to do from the slot of veteran. Third wide receiver not being so twelve personnel to tidy independent with Vance McDonald who does get hurt. But I think they would like to get some more production from third wide receiver because right now with ally Ragas on the pup list and right now, they're not getting a lot from James Washington. Although I think he's coming along nicely third wide receiver could mixing well with that group. I would also say offense at tackle. And you have some of these teams that. You see the New York Giants doing it Yuka mayor's been doing it seemingly since they traded Cleal knack. They're kinda just folding. They're saying rebuilding year. If you could get an saying starting left tackle, I'm not saying any players that they would trade for would be players that you would start immediately. I'm talking depth because Marcus Gilbert, just like you mentioned with. You know, injury issues and things of that nature. He is another player that rarely ever plays all sixteen games. And I'm not sure if Chuck Sikora for or Matt filer our guys that you'd want to throw out there and a really need for game. Maybe in the second half of the season. Think about some of the games they have to play against the chargers against the saints against the ravens against the patriots against the Bangui's. They have tough games down the stretch, and if Marcus Gill because down or valve ill and a wave goes down, you don't really have that presence. So if I can find an offense of tackled it's kind of a second tier guy the you might be able to pick up for let's say a fifth sixth round pick. I'm pulling the trigger on that. That's probably the only other position. I agree with you on the third receiver, you agree on that offense tackle depth. Yeah. I think to put a name to what you're saying. I think you're talking about Chris Hubbard type. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Over type this Jeff doesn't occur. Or for sound like an science experiment. You're like you sounds like a chemical reaction like chlorof- feel oak or floor these two elements. It becomes Ochoa for now. Kids what you're gonna see? Here's a core for the formerly outside of this exactly dish. Four or five or it's a brand of medicine or something like two scoops of core for the morning. Then I guess. We either have science experiments are law firms. It seems like what was it matter of Medicaid in Bostick? He said medication Williams offer. Yes. Thurgood Medicare, Medicaid Williams. I think they would miss tackles like they was up your case. They don't they don't they don't make money unless you and money that's their slow. Exactly. Speaking of injury, prone players and things that nature shockingly. I guess I shouldn't say shockingly the Pittsburgh Steelers are rather healthy team moving into week eight against the Cleveland Browns this round to everyone remembers week won the tie. It was awful on all parts. They're starting to get everyone healthy. Whether Morgan Burnett will be back this week. I'm not sure Eljay Ford has practiced the official Wednesday report is out. I have not seen at official list yet. I apologize was busy after work today. I will check that out for the end of the show, but the Steelers according to my Tomlin and his Tuesday press conference were very much a healthy football team. And so when you have guys like Ben Rothlisberger in his media session today, saying, hey, it's week eight and he feels so much better. Now, this is a guy that finally decided to lay off the doughnuts. It took him fourteen years, but he finally figured out that well, if I took care of my body, it might actually help he lost some weight now, he's reaping the benefits he said that his knees or not swollen. They they're not having to ice down as much that he feels really really good really good sign for the Steelers. And then they could be getting healthy. In terms of Eli Rogers coming back, if they choose it activate him off the pup list. We mentioned a lie Dany as an option at outside linebacker who's on injured reserve currently they're getting some of these players back lands. I just wanted to get your quick take before we get a true or false about this upcoming game health aside. What are your thoughts? How is this game gonna be different outside venue than week one for both these teams, I think the big thing you'd have to point to is Baker Mayfield. We next the biggest difference, and you have some other players on Cleveland Browns offense that are no longer there. No, high note, Gordon. Oh, Taylor Oma. But. It is. It's Baker Mayfield. You know that that that offense is much different. With Baker Mayfield that it legitimately has a passing offense that can actually move the ball down the field in B two in the National Football League. It's a it's a professional passing offense now. Although Baker mayfield's rookie with tyrod Taylor. I mean, you had to defend his gramling essentially, tyrod Taylor would not put the ball in tight spaces with not risk anything and tyro. He's an average player. Tyrod Taylor's average player. So Baker Mayfield is the biggest difference with this football team. I had not been I I'll admit I have not watched a ton of tape of Baker Mayfield. But I have watched several games, man. I honestly. I'm not that impressed. Are you? I I'm quite impressed with Baker. I I mean, I like what he's doing unlike his his calmness in the pocket his pocket mobility. He's actually a multiple read quarterback this early in his in his career, which I think is impressive. He actually scans the field. And he throws a good ball. He throws particularly a really good seen ball. There's some action on the ball. It's live. It's Chris Ball. I like Baker Mayfield. I think bakers player, I think I think Cleveland found a guy that they can build around. I think he Solly. Okay. Personally. I just think he's I don't know. I'm not sold on him yet. He short he is out. Which would you do see at times on field that he is short in that has some issues. Sometime. Terms of some of the stuff that he's trying to do in throwing in the packet his height. I've seen a little bit of an issue there. But I think of the rookie guys that have come in darnold. Lamar Jackson was too big kid in Buffalo's Josh Allen. Yeah. He's better than all those guys. I think he's a little bit better than rose. And I like Rosen as well. So I think Baker Mayfield of those quarterbacks were drafted in the first round. I think he's clearly the best one of those guys. Well, yeah, I'm not sure that saying much, but will what we'll we'll talk about. Let's go ahead and get insurer false as it might be the first time listeners what we do here is we basically make statement. And then we debate whether it's true or whether it's false now, we're gonna start off talking strictly about the coming game with the craven Browns. And then we'll move into Mason NFL type theme statement. So let's off right away lands James Connor will rush for over one hundred yards in week eight against the Cleveland Browns true or false false in the reason. I say false is the one thing that National Football League teams do if they can do it is if a guy gets a hundred. Yards against you and runs the ball. Pretty well. They try to get that corrected. I I think Conor will run the ball affectively. I don't think you'll run for hundred. I think he'll run for eighty five to ninety that era. In that range with a yards per carry around four four point two somewhere around. I think it's more. So if he can average up four point two to four point five per carry, I think that will accomplish what the Steelers wanna do running the football. But I think they take away that because you don't want to give up one hundred yard rushers to the same guy in multiple times specially multiple divisional games. That's that's saying something if you could run one guy could run for over a hundred against divisional Ponant multiple times in the season. I think they'll try to take that away. I. Okay. Let me ask you this over under total scrimmage yards by James Caan, or we'll set the line at one twenty five over. Over. But he's but he's only going to rush for eighties. He thinks he's going to be a big time player in the passing game. I think we'll get some of the passing gay dust. That's where I think he'll make his hey Passi game. So I think his touches will be up around twenty to twenty five touches. Okay. I agree with the touches. I agree with over. I'd say true. I think he does get over one hundred. I the Steelers offense. I have a question for you later in the show about the bye week. I feel like Henry the by week. They were quitting on all cylinders on that off has front, and they can do what they wanted. And I know the Cleveland defense is no joke anymore. But I feel like it didn't matter in the Cincinnati Bengals off defense was no joke either in the Steelers push them around. I mean, if you go back and watch the film that we week six game. My goodness was the Bengals were manhandled by the Steelers offense of wine into what I'm saying. Is that I think personally that lady on lady on belt. Good Lord, James, Connor will go for over one hundred. And I think he I think he's gonna look at one forty for a total scrimmage yards. Didn't he have close to one forty in week one? I can't remember taught. My head knows close. I think it was almost I think it was north of that listeners. Let us know. I think it was north of that I'm thinking closer to one seventy ish. Really the game. Because I think he almost one hundred twenty yards rushing. He I think you're right there. Yeah. I think you're right. So okay. So you think false, but you see him having a good game. I say true. I also see him having a good game as well. All right. The Steelers will sack Baker Mayfield or whoever is quarterbacking the Browns at that time and least five times true or false. I'm gonna go true. I think the tackles Hubbard, and I don't know the other kid's name. I think the tackles on the Browns aren't very good in that first game. Steelers got seven sacks. I mean, the one thing that stands out when you look at the Cleveland Browns, they'd given up. Thirty one sacks this year, which is ranked lamps in the National Football League. Now of those thirteen of those are tributed to win. Tyrod Taylor was starting. But Baker Mayfield himself has been stack eighteen times which would be ranked fourteenth worst in the National Football League. So it's a case of no matter who's back there guys get sacked. You're talking about two very mobile guys. I mean, that's one of the strengths with Baker Mayfield secondary plays late late in downplays being able to move outside of the pocket and make plays. And we all know tyrod Taylor is a great runner. They're not good impasse pro. And I think TJ wa. And that's one of the key matchups in this game. For me is the up between Doug depre- in TJ watt against the Cleveland Browns tackles, they have to win that match up. I think they will win that matter, and I'll think they will have five or more sacks. So I think it's true. Okay. Just randomly tell us. How many how many things they have total? I think they get six six to seven again, it may not be the same way TJ watt. In that game. Had what five? Now he had four and it got taken back to three and a half because they gave half a Hargrave on the sack. So so you have to go get some bullet stuff 'cause Baker Mayfield. The ravens that a really good job of blitzing Baker Mayfield. I think Baker has some issues with the blitz. And I think that's a way you can break down their past protections. Well that he doesn't see recognize it quickly. And I think the blocking breaks down in the blitz to things which are bad things if you're trying to get good blitz. Pro so pass, bro. So I think the Steelers will get six or seven sacks. Again. I agree with you on all fronts. I think it's true. I think they will get the they might not be early in the game. I think that the Browns are out and really try to run the football. And they're going to try to keep that pass rush off of them and not expose Baker Mayfield. And then eventually because of the offense and the Steelers and you're going to have to throw the ball to get back in it. And that's when they can kinda T off and and get to made Mayfield. So we both agree on that one. And I also agree. I was going to say six ax. You said six or seven I could see both. I don't think it's going to go to eight or anything like that. But then again when they do have. Big huge output. It's typically in the sack department is typically against the Cleveland Browns. All right, next one. The Steelers will give up four sacks at the amount that they gave up in that first matchup in week one. Let me remind the listeners out there. The Steelers offense of line in the last two games against the Bengals in the falcons have not given up a sack in only one quarterback hit in those two contests Allance true or false. The Steelers will give four sacks on Sunday at Heinz he'll false. In fact, Jeff I still have only given up eight or nine sacks this year, which I think is second the National Football League. And almost half of those came to Cleveland in the first game. I think they'll have a better plan and dealing with Myles Garrett in I think they'll clean that up. And I think the Steelers at most give up to Saxon this game. Yeah. And Ben Rothlisberger. Again, if you haven't listened to his interview from today on Wednesday. It's worth listening today. The he was asked about playing team that is young as craven, you know, displaying the second time a bigger difference than playing obviously the first time he said, absolutely. He said you get a chance to really get a feel for what the guys like to do in. Tomorrow's guarantee basically missed both of the games against Pittsburgh last year. If you don't want to count the throwaway game in week seventeen aid for someone like Vilna wave is never gone against them in so your some familiarity now, they know what to expect not that. They're not gonna have wrinkles on the other side. I think that they are going to give up some pressure. But I'm gonna say the only of one sack in the game. So false is eight false. They don't give four. I do think they give one kind of breaks their streak, but I think ultimately they have another really good game. So here we go. True or false. The Steelers will win the turnover battle in the game on Sunday because the Cleveland Browns take the football away. Surprisingly, well, what do you think lands true or false? I'm gonna say true. I think the Steelers will be I guess plus two in the game. I think the Steelers will with all the pressure that I think they're gonna get I think they'll get a fumble recovery and an interception. Baker will put the ball in some areas where he doesn't want and give you offer to catch the football. So I think the Steelers will be plus two in turnover margin. So I'm thinking Steelers get to turnovers Browns getting no turnovers. I think the Steelers gonna come out and play a really good clean football game considering the amount of turnovers that they had in the first game. I think with the way they're playing now by running the football in really trying to ball control it a little bit more and trying to mix that in. I think they'll do a good job in terms of turnovers in really secure the football. And this matchup cabinet, say falls. I think that this is a no blood scenario between teams I think they both might give it away once in. That's it. I think it's gonna be a clean. Game the Nissan week one. I just don't think Pittsburgh's defense yet. They might get a couple of fours fumbles or something like that. But they're just not a defense that takes the ball wave ERI. Well, you look at weeks. Joe Hayden had two opportunities to seal the game with interceptions and didn't come down with it. That just seems to be the trend of this defense. I can change, and you know. The beat of an eye that at the same time. I haven't seen it yet. Say phone are let's go to some more general questions, we're gonna go with one. That's obviously based around the Steelers true or false. The Pittsburgh Steelers will make a trade of some kind before the October thirtieth trade deadline true or false lands. Now. I know I'll talk the ton about Patrick Peters in. He sends come out and said, he's a dedicated cardinal. Jeff talk a little bit about top programme. The you know when player say that in a doesn't mean anything. Show me the money gone next eight as the Steelers that's gonna make the trade boerum. I'm gonna say false. You know, I'm gonna say false. The Steelers will not make a trade because we all want them to make the trade. It all makes sense that they would make a trade every Steeler fan in in Steeler nation worth their grain of salt knows they need to make a trade to improve his defense. They need to make it now that can make it yesterday. They needed to make it last week. Why do they need to do that? Because the quarterback is old in his own it. This is the end. He's at the dessert course. And you're not gonna find a quarterback to caliber day rothlisburger quite some time unless you get lucky like the Green Bay Packers or the San Francisco forty Niners with Steve Young Aaron Rodgers. So while you have your guy your second best quarterback and your franchise history. You'd better go on. All in. And sometimes it requires that you may have to be less conservative that you typically are. But with all that said, we know the ain't making a trade. We know that ain't making a trade. We're just. Just be going frustrate ourselves. You know, it ain't happening. So no false. They would not make a trade. I agree false. I think the Steelers they might have had their eye on a couple of players possibly. Might have put in some phone calls, but it's it's risk reward at this point. And I think the Steelers like the team that they have yet it might be some upgrades out there. But ultimately, I don't think that's going to be the way that they wanna go. Savoy both agree the false. They are not going to make a trade. Now. Here's an NFL question that you pose lands. I think it's a really good one. I should say statement true or false Adam feeling the receiver from the ninja Viking is the best wide receiver in the National Football League right now. What do you say true? I think it's a hundred percent true. I think you know, over the last five years, I think it's been Antonio Brown. Both feeling his hat. I mean, boy is balling. I can't front. The boy is putting up hundred yard games every week against everybody. The boy is balling. I love a day. I like Julio Jones like Canaan Allen. You know, there's a lot of guys that are like, but I mean, it's a what have you done for me lately league in arguably juju is playing better in AB this year. So the question by B is a B still even the best wide receiver on the Steelers last year was is he better than juju this year. So I think Adam feeling right now is absolutely the best wide receiver NFL best route runner. He just kills people. I mean, he kills guys and because he's a white guy. He just absolutely frustrates corners corners can't just like. They're just like how this white guy roasted v this. That's opposed to happen waited about white guys. Couldn't jump or run or catch in field. His like Utah wrong accurate. Do all three touchdown one fifteen or year. Hey, he's wanna pace his pace is ridiculous. I think he's gonna pays to break the single season yardage record. Because he's doing something. That's never been done. Nobody started to seize this hot. I mean, he's absolutely the best wide receiver. He is killing the game right now. And guys just can't take it. They soured sore. Did you see the cornerback from Philadelphia? I forget the Cornerbacks name for Philadelphia that he was absolutely killed on the road. This boy was about to just pull his hair he could take he was like, wait a minute. I'm not going to be able to go. He killing me. Like that feeling is the man absolutely the best wide receiver football. Here. No doubt. Okay. I'm gonna go in I'm gonna change into mercury Morris. And if he doesn't mercury Morris is he's the former running back of the Niamey dolphins on that fame nineteen seventy-two undefeated team, and he's the one that's always on sportscenter. Whenever a team gets to eight no nine ten Nonni always says his name thing. Don't call me when rim city don't call me when you're on my commie winner on my front porch. You know, in other words, don't talk to me until you're close to actually go undefeated. Adam Thiel and has played tremendous football. So far this season. They need had a great year last year. But there is no chance in hell that I am saying he is better than Antonio Brown because he is producing right now. But intern Brown is still the death rider senior in the National Football League in there's a big difference. He look at just results and even into new Brown. He's still having a decent year. You know, it's been very very slow for him at the early early portions of the year, Adam dealers great. But if I'm looking at it complete body work. There's no way in hell that I'm putting him over Antonio Brown. I don't really think putting him over Julio Jones. I think the right now the UN's getting a lot of good opportunities. He can thank Stefan dates as well for being opposite him is giving him a lot of one on ones. That's probably not gonna have it too much. But I see what you're saying. The mercury Moore's, hey, don't call me when your neighborhood when if he finishes the year this well in worldly going. In the week eight right? If he finishes the year, strong, then will revisit this discussion. But as now it's aby until someone unseats ABC seven straight seven straight hundred yard games. I believe that's ridiculous seven straight. He seeing double coverage. He's not working against their corners. I mean, I feel you with body of work. I mean, that's absolutely true. The body work is not there for this year. Oda boys killing the board. I mean, the boy is killing you'd better have a feeling plan. That's for sure. All right. Then I said, I'm not saying he's not good. He's tremendous and he finally hesitant quarterback. While a better quarterback. I said we'll see how things pan out there for the Minnesota Vikings. But that's for sure false today. Now, we get into our game picks kinda wanted to expand. This a little bit lands and not just pick the Steelers game. I also wanted to pick the other AFC north matchups for the week. If you would be willing to do that, first and foremost, an AFC north matchup, obviously have pits versus Cleveland. But we'll go around the division to see who else is playing when a pool up the schedule quickly by competible work with me. Here we go the Baltimore Ravens go and play the Carolina Panthers. Ye that's gonna be a tough one. What do you think about that? Game. Baltimore's going on the road. They will check the schedule for this week. And he yes there at the Carolina Panthers. That is one PM eastern standard time giggles. No brainer. Carolina will lose that game. It'll be a physical who match up with flacco stains on the road. He he he absolutely thinks on the road. Flacco is worse than being on the road. So, and you know, that's ban. So they stink on the road. It'll be a defensive slugfest though, Baltimore does ultimately very good defense. In fact, Baltimore's the best defense I've seen this year. Simply because they have really good players. They have a really good scheme, and the one thing Baltimore does better than anybody in actual football league deviant is tackle they do. A really good job of limiting yard at yards after the catch, and they'll they'll turn over Cam here there but flacco soap bad on the road. And I don't like that offense. I like here to win that game. Yeah tannen. No his permit. The Baltimore Ravens are a good football team. And they're a team that honestly, they're resilient resilient group. I think I could see this team actually coming off of that heartbreaking loss to the saints. Coming to go down that win. I'm gonna take Baltimore on the road. I think defense travels will Cam Newton basically sl- slept walk through three quarters against Philadelphia. They did come back with eighty come back and wins tutors to them and I had him as my phantom quarterbacks. That was big props to me one. That's still I gotta go and say that I think that the idea the ravens are gonna win. I think the ravens are just a good team. I gotta go down there. They're going to win. It's a game that they really have to win before they play the Steelers in week nine. So let's go to the other ASU north game. The Cincinnati Bengals home versus the Tampa Bay. Buccaneers another one pm kickoff. What do you think their lands? I think the bungles will win that game. I think don't bounce back defense of mine. We'll play dominant really get after James Wednesday. He'll put some balls into some bad spots. Give him operatives to make some turnovers. And I think that they will win that game. Tampa is not a very good defense. Not very good team. Very good offense. But I think the Bengals excuse me. The bungles will win that game. I agree. I think the the Cincinnati Bengals are coming off a really tough laws, Pittsburgh, and then another embarrassing loss to Kansas City on Sunday football. I think they bounced back. I think they win into as of right now that would make if your predictions are correct. Cincinnati would improve the five and three Baltimore Ravens would drop to four and four into. Now, we go into Pittsburgh Steelers. Cleveland Browns lands. How do you see this game shaking up? I think this game is really about getting pressure on the quarterback on Baker Mayfield as well. As and I have a dorm, I rhyme this year. But let me give you my rom. I usually give you my nipsy Russell rhyme. That's the theme of the game. And it simply if you want some love stock Chubb Charles been played really good football. You could see why they got rid of Carlos high average is seven point yards per carry. But this is really about the sacks that Cleveland gives up. This is about getting pressure on Baker Mayfield making it very uncomfortable. And it's about turnovers. The Steelers are the better football team. If they don't turn the football over they'll beat Cleveland Cleveland, we'll have some opportunities to make plays with enjo- coup. Jarvis Landry will make a play heroes there. But I think the Steelers tackle will get pressure. Don't turn over the football day win. I like the Steelers to beat Cleveland at home keep the momentum going. I think they beat Cleveland to the tune of thirty one seventeen. All right. Very good. I agree that I think the Pittsburgh Steelers our team that is turning the corner offense defensively a they can just start to mesh. I think this team could be very very tough to beat. And I also think they're a team that can beat any team in the AFC. That includes a patriots that includes the ravens that includes the chargers, and it's just funny that they're gonna phase all three of those teams in the second half of their schedule at the same time. It the Cleveland Browns may and it's insane. When you think about how they've played four overtime games. All ready, and it's only going into week aid. There's only one team I believe in NFL history had more Philadelphia Eagles team from the thirties or something they had played in five overtime games. I don't think this was going to overtime. I think the Pittsburgh Steelers. The might be close at first in the second third. They've pulled together start playing good football and pull away. I think that the Steelers. I think they win their favored by seven points for those gamblers out there that are interested. I think that the Steelers win thirty four they go over the thirty point plateau thirty four to twenty. I think that they might. Let's get a late touchdown to kind of make it seem a little bit closer than what is I think the Steelers dominate. I think they protect Ben Rothlisberger. And I think like I said they really start to find their groom. So not good news for those that have been following our picks, Lance and I picked the Steelers he normally puts his bad juju onto the team. So let's hope that doesn't hold true last week. Let me let me let me point out a couple of things that I've seen would Baker wanting baker's ability the extent plays off script. That's one thing. Steelers will have to be really caucusing they'll have to plaster wide receivers and do a good job there. Also with Baker you're going to see some RPO stuff. They're gonna have to be a little bit disciplined with that. The one thing you did see that. I ball game. Was they were able to run the ball Cleveland pretty well attacking TJ watt in the run game in the left side of that defensive formation defensive line. They are definitely a right handed football team in term. Of the run. So if the Steelers can really plug that up but this ball game into Baker mayfield's hands. So have no problem. But again, unlike Jeff's picking I like me thirty one seventeen and by the way, Jeff we both picked them to beat Cincinnati the bungles in. I got the score. Right. I think I think I picked twenty eight twenty four. So I was pretty close to this. That's not right. You got claws. This is only good in horseshoes in hangar needs by friend. Okay. So if you're listening, if you're watching the show live, you have questions go ahead and fire away. We have some already we're going to get rapid fire answering these questions get you ready for a weekend. That is. Hopefully, be really weakened for the Steelers. Terms of how things shake out AFC north, okay? Amelia asked Lance. How do you think? The Steelers finished with the NFC south teams there too right now they beat the falcons the buccaneers they'll play the Panthers in week ten on Thursday night football the saints down in New Orleans. I wanna say that's week fourteen. How do you think they finish against NFC? South teams is here. They will not beat the saints in the dome and Carolina's that game in Carolina or Pinson Heinz field. They will be Carolina at home, but they won't beat the saints on the turf inside in New Orleans. They won't do that. Drew brees. Eat them up these at three and one. Yes, yes. I had to agree. I think three and one's very realistic record for them against NFC south and to be fair. I think that'd be a pretty good record NFC south. He had this two front runners Carolina New Orleans that are to kind kinda cellar dwellers. We'll see how Steelers play out there. Okay. Here's a general NFL question. How long until the last undefeated team falls? He sang about the loss Angeles Rams d-. How on you see there on the street? They do play the Kansas City Chiefs coming up keep that in mind. We're they play the cheese. They play 'em in LA or Nexico. Brother. Hell let's say they go fifteen at one. I'll say they lose that game. Okay. But actually, no, no, no, no, no, no. I I'm going to start out there the Rams feed defeated. He's going to beat the Rams, and I don't even know when they play again, the Seattle Seahawks are going to be the Rams because Seattle Seahawks even as bad as they are. Sometimes you just find ways to win crazy games. And now the crazy games divisional game. Russell Wilson can make plays. That's what they're not going undefeated. They will not Mark the tape if girly in in in golf, by the way, golf is a fellow California Golden Bear hit up the Golden Bear football. You know, how we do deep by team in the pack twelve in disappoint their fans. Like, we got beat by UCLA thirty seven seven homecoming when they had no wins. As you could tell it's frustrating. Vienna. Cow bear fan but air Rogers Jared Goff to California golden bears marshawn Lynch to name a few Sean Jackson. They're going to undo feet. If those if golf I and girly stay healthy, they're going under feed it. Mark the tape. They're not gonna feed it. I don't. Okay area. Let's see. Here's a good one. What can we expect in terms of improvement from the Steelers defense? So a lot of you're saying the defense is going to get better. I think the question is how could we visually see improvement? What areas? Do you think this defense can still improve on? I think Artie burns will live proved. I don't think he's gonna play Pro Bowl caliber football. But I think he's gonna play better e has recently, which was not saying much. So I think they'll be better coverage wise, and I think they'll be better from philosophical point where they will play a little more been not break. Not bend 'em broke defense where I think they will be able to choke off it plays. Keep some stuff in front of him. A really play been not an effective been not break defense and really limit the bit plays especially with Burnett coming back. I think they'll do better against tight ends in the slot with him being able to play Don linebacker. So I think they'll get. Evers wise philosophically can be a little bit better. And I think they will actually be able to play been not break defense. Okay. I think that tackling certainly can improve. And that's something that you can definitely see that's tangible. If you're watching the game you see hell earlier in the season. They were to force fumbles it came after miss tackles. It's everyone's ecstatic that the sealers caused a fumble recovered it when I'm thinking, well, hell, they would attack them the first time, they probably wouldn't have been. So you should an my opinion tackling should improve seizing on. Now snowman ask the question that I'll just go ahead and answer. What happens if lady on bell doesn't show up this year? First and foremost, the fourteen point five million dollars at he is gets rolled over into the Steelers salary cap for next year, which would not be a bad thing. Because this year's could use that salary cap next year to go out and get players or to, you know, make moose sign players that ever the case may be. He does not need to play the season to hit free agency. That is a common misconception. He has a vested veteran in the National Football League. He doesn't have to play one snap this season to be a free agent next season. Now the Steelers you have options with the transition tag that stuff you're getting into the nitty gritty of the collective agreement. And that's not what anyone wants to hear. So if bell doesn't show up this year, he could still go elsewhere next year, it feels slap a transition tag on him, essentially means that they have the right to first refusal and things like that ransom. I missing anything in this. That's it. I mean, that's I mean he could be traded. They won't franchise again. But the transition tag makes sense they've said that that's probably what they're gonna do which allows into traded. So and they would still get compensation in terms of compensatory pick. If that were to happen. So next we have Matteo ass. What do you think? The odds are the Steelers landing and this is a report that came from Jason lockenfora a CBS sports colleague from the raiders are Jenkins from the giants. I don't want Jenkins at rather have the young player and develop him. But you gotta realize with the young player. He might not be the answer this year. He may be the answer in the future. Enact could be a good thing. Particularly if you coach up if you're if you're able to get Artie burns good, then you have to young corners on long with Joe Hayden. So I would rather if that were to happen that the Steelers get the young player from Ohio State from the raiders. I don't know even Conley. He hasn't played well in the National Football League. And I understand that a change of scenery can help a lot of players. But ultimately you in my opinion, if I'm Kevin Colbert indoor might Tomlin. And I'm looking at the situation. I'm looking players could be potentially on the trading block. I'm asking myself one thing are they in upgrade over what we already have. And if they are not I am not pulling the trigger on any trade. I'm not giving away draft picks because. Why would I do that? Why would I go out there and make a trade give up draft pick or potential player? If this guy isn't getting any better than what we already have the last. It's better than Cameron's already burned eighty cents a ball. Don't make the trade in honestly commie has not proven that as National Football League player. He has potential. I can't say that. I am confident in the Steelers ability to develop Cornerbacks and safeties. Maybe it's different with the new coach and not the old regime will see I don't I don't think they make a move on. Either of those who you know, what a lot of it's going to be based on their scout of him. If they were to pull that triggered be based on your scout of him what they thought he was coming out. Okay. Yeah. That's a good point read over and says in Jenkins said to make over fourteen million dollars next year. So there's no way the snow way. They're not gonna jump in bed with that contract. If you know what I mean? So here we go. How do we how did this year's become more efficient in the red zone? This could be both offense and defense Lance go head give us both. How do you think this could become more efficient in the red area? Offense by running the football is by being very running football team in rents on. I mean not calling three consecutive pass plays in the red zone. Really being diverse in the red zone. I think on the opposite side of football savant getting pass rush. You know, it's about getting past rushing the red zone really choking off the run. I mean, if you can if you could speed it up in a red zone you do. Well. So I think it's winning up front on both sides of the bar and the red zone be able to run it be able to stop the run. I think you play better in Iran's. Aw. Yeah. I think defensively pressures important, but I also need to make up their coverage schemes in the red zone or sometimes, you know, you see like already burns that happened with him having a budget Pri as well, they run some these earn scheme. And the players because the field so short. I don't know what it is. Maybe there's not that intelligent. I'm not sure. But whatever the case may be it just doesn't seem to work. Maybe mix up senators in the back end mix up some of their schemes that they're doing. Here we go. The question is. Once bell returns, assuming here of what the likelihood will use this usual use a two week exemption, the roster exemption with no pay. Does this help in acquiring Patrick Peterson? We'll be talking about that earlier. I don't think Patrick Pearson is an option anymore. The steelers. I just saw report across the wire from Daya Lawley of decay. Pits exports SICOM stating the Steelers have said they will pay Levy on bell during that roster exemption, and when they get the roster exemption they can put him in the lineup whenever they want. It just gives them two weeks to have to make a roster move to find space for him. So they will pay him. He has to show up so eight hundred fifty five thousand dollars every week. He's already lost over seven million dollars of potential fourteen point five million this year. So understand that that's the they they said they'll pay him. He's. Has to show up. There yet Lansing. I saw weird stat that at this point excluding signing bonuses that the compensation that he's lost is more than any running. Back would get paid this year. I don't know if that was that was true. But man, if that's the case, that's something. I mean, I I don't have anymore words for for lady on bail. I mean, I'm sorry lifters. I can't talk about lady on Bill, aka Mr Brown gravy. I can't do it. I can't do. I just can't do either come in play baller. Don't. I mean. I mean, I think even if you were the starchiest ill be fan that at this point. You're sick of it just ball or not. It's okay. If you don't wanna play sit out the whole season, just just. Just do it. I mean, do you just be honest about what you're gonna do man gonna come? You're not it is what it is agree. A hundred percent. I mean, and that's what the seals are so pissed off that he's told reportedly he's told the team organization in players multiple times that he was coming back, and he just doesn't show up. They don't trust the guy. They don't trust. What they hear? They they haven't heard any front personally recently. So hey, you just go with go with you have man. I didn't. That's it's working. It's working in my opinion lands. You might disagree. James Connor success is hurting lady on bells free agent plants because what they're doing is. They're showing look this guy's not lady on bell in look what he's doing every time. We give them over fifteen carries. He's basically getting at or close or over one hundred dollars rushing. He's catching the ball of the backfield is the third draft pick. So I don't I don't I don't agree with that. Entirely. I think the thing that's hurting lady on pale Morton anything he's not playing football. And he's getting older. I mean, those things I think are more of an impact in that. But I mean, everybody knows what it is about running that you can find him. You may not finally ails, but you can fi- running backs to get production auto AK, Alvin Kamara aka John giancana. Hey, James Connors cars, John tell the Nager. Nater terminating lay beyond bales money. Forget car Kareem hunt. Don't forget cream hunt. Either that mix so all right. Let's go. Another question. What this is really good on further offense. Whatever happened to the Steelers always going for the two two point conversion haven't seen that much this year. What are your thoughts that you like the aggressive nature of going for two and four saying the opposition to have to really play behind the numbers game and stuff like that? You just think kicked it extra point? Let's play another down. This ain't Oregon. No, hell, no hate that. I you only go for too late in games where you have to. I don't think he changed it to out to chase the extra point to. I don't like it. I don't think I think that's Gretchen for just aggression sake. When you don't have to get a touchdown ticket feel kicked extra point, man. I I don't really like it. I never thought it was smart. So I don't mind that they're not going for the two. I know from an analytics perspective, it's probably the. Best thing to do. But those guys would also tell you should never punt. So either believe it or not. Yet. The football Anna lyrics are very different in the World Series is going on right now. And you see the shifts and the way that they play players, and there's so many so many analysts in the NFL is just kinda database. They're telling those waters, but like you said there there's say you should never punt why. Because number state it's a fifty fifty shot getting, but that's a stupid. That's just dumb. You do that. I mean, it's not as simple as that. For me. I I'm with you. I I don't think they're going for two is always the best bet. But, hey, if even extend the lead if you can force the entertained have to follow suit, it's not is a bad thing to do. So there you go, and that's kind of it for the show. No more questions kind of dried up, which is fine. A it was a good session. We appreciate all those people that watched. I have a w t f Jeff you have a f all that. Go ahead to so boxes. Yours just really quickly. You know, a lot of things have gone on. We're doing this live on Wednesday. A lot of things going on, you know, in terms of today in terms of politics with bombs and all that stuff. Hopefully, everybody safe nobody gets hurt so on so forth. Hopefully, we can continue to have what we can start to have healthy discourse politically around the country. But, but when I get on my soapbox just to say the reports about Derek Carr crying when he was injured in in raider players allegedly him losing favor in the locker room because he was a grown man crying. That that's bad that that's why that's a bad football team. That's why there's a bad football team. People can cry people can be emotional. It's okay for men to be emotional as well. The guy thought he was hurt. He cried he was saying maybe that's how he demonstrates his passion and his love for the game in he so disappointed that he may not be able to play and help his football team that the net actual motion him crying crying. Does it make you weak? So hopefully, you guys out there if you have sons if you have kids. Teach them to just be emotionally real in the moment in it's okay to cry. It's okay. Not to cry. Just encourage them to be emotionally real. And whatever it is that it's real for them in that particular moment, of course, not violence or anything like that. But you know, saying man is weak because he's crying in are so old that's so antiquated. I mean, that's so ridiculous. I mean, it's it's you know, we have a motions as well. And so when I heard that from the raiders, I was just like dumping Tf. That's why that's a bad football team. Give that guy a hug in brazen. Tell them that. It's okay. We understand man. You wanna play football. It's an emotional experience. So motions time just embrace his reaction embraces emotion in build that guy. Don't tear him down for that emotion. So that was my deputy. Well, you know, the piggyback on that Ben Rothlisberger is about that today. And he said, you know in the locker room, he's he's cried tears of joy, he's cried tears of pain of anger, and there's nothing wrong with that. And if anyone out there is a football fan wants to read a very interesting book, it's called the season of love, and it was based on Gilman high school, which is a private school in the state of Maryland where I live and at one time they held the longest winning streak in the nation's history for high school games, and it was a private school. It is a Christian based school. But it was about this coach who reads these this dominating football team that beats the hell out of everyone is as brutal as it gets in. He preaches love in a motion to his players. It's an absolutely ridiculously mind opening balk as a coach as someone coached at the high school level for over thirteen years as someone that has five kids for them being. Daughters, myself, someone that is around young people young adults every single day. It's very important to teach them that you have to be emotionally available. And if you don't tap into those emotions if you don't recognize those emotions they're gonna turn into something else. They're going to stay inside. And then they're going to be released as something else. And I don't wanna get too far out of the the the conversation of football here, but Lance brought it up, and so that's something that I kinda passionate about is that it's okay to cry. My kids have all seen me, shed, tears tears of happiness. Here's a sadness tears of pain. It's part of life. I'm not gonna deny that. And I'm gonna make my my kids. I know it's going to be the same. No that it's okay that it's okay. By the way, I don't think Derek are ever did cry video ad. He wasn't crying. That's that's just a face that he made. I don't think he ever shedded here at least not on the football field. It's still a man's man's. It's a man's game. And all that stuff. I just think that was kind of a little money made that still yes, Jeff. What did we Steeler fans feel anything? But. But to passionate highs ward felt when he was shedding tears after that lot after they lost the patriots because they couldn't win a Super Bowl for Jerome Bettis. Don't think that didn't have something to do with Jerome probably coming back, and he was boohooing like a baby just like a baby. Like all that emotion came out. I know what I watched that. I was pissed. I was like we gotta win the Super Bowl. Like, I mean, I was hot like I I rarely get hot watching games now from do a podcast much doing shows. But like in that moment, I was hot. I was like I feel like I was playing like I wanted to run through a brick wall. Seeing that raw Moshe I was like nominee. I can't I don't wanna see my brother in that type of pain. So I'm gonna do whatever I can to try to win. So I think it helps it's a good thing in and that's why the raiders are bad commitment to lose iw. 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Standard is the Standard: The depression of Championship Sunday, and handing out Secondary grades

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Standard is the Standard: The depression of Championship Sunday, and handing out Secondary grades

"Uh-huh. All right. Pittsburgh Steeler fans. Welcome back to another episode of the standard is the standard. I'm Jeff Hartmann editor of behind the steel curtain dot com. This is our flagship podcast and with me for all these years has been Lance Williams out on the west coast. We might seem a little distracted tonight because the patriots chiefs are there's only nine minutes left a little over nine minutes left in this game. It's a it's a doozy says speak, but Lance how you doing this afternoon evening. Feel okay man, watch this patriots team. Over my head band. Bad. I feel I'm dropping to Mike just pissed off upset watching this patriot team. This team is no good too. Yes. It is frustrating. I think all Steeler fans connector that sentiment. And that was my first order of business tonight on this show was talk about the games today. Obviously, we don't know at the at the time of this recording which by the way in Casey for God. Or in case, you're looking at your computer. Whoa. Why why is the standard is the standard going on Sundays? We've moved the show lease in the offseason to Sunday's. It's just easier for us to get together. That time not to mention he did not get of he got stopped. Yes. Distract. We. We've moved into Sunday's because it sound quality better land is not going to be mobile. I think it's going to be a better product over all. So nonetheless lands my question for you. Simple. What do you think needs to happen? Let's be realistic. Because I knew the right now you and a lot of Steeler fans are down the dubs you've openly said, you think they're super windows, slam shot, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff. Register -ssume that this team is still going to be competitive, which I think everyone can admit they'll be competitive what they need to do to be playing on on championship Sunday next year. We'll what needs to happen. The need to save frigate and changed the way that they approach their off season and just get aggressive with the cap space that they have and go out in target free agents that they think can make a difference not plug and play guys like Morgan Burnett who's already asked to be traded because he doesn't wanna play dime. Linebacker. You. Need stars go out and spend some money. And get some stars. How about move up in the draft leverage yourself leverage extra picks move up the draft. Get aggressive try to get into top fifteen top ten get a guy there. Just get a Gresley of just change it up. You know, if they're asking Tomlin to get a challenge coach, which is well-needed didn't change it up with the Steelers are doing. That's why said, yeah. Said it the Steelers way is broken is because they keep trying to do this this way that they think is tried and true when the patriots played in eight straight AFC championships Macy's, you know, clearly this dealer way is broken when another team is been eight straight AFC championships and they're trying to go to their third consecutive Super Bowl. So it's not only time for the coaching staff to do some things differently sodas the front office and sodas ownership in the way, they have to approach. Winning. You gotta do everything and be aggressive at it. Yeah. No, you're right. But I guess by question is when was the last one out now granted the Steelers haven't always had the salary cap space. But what was the last time? They actually went out and got a big name player that panned out in free agency. Can you think of one? Stew Staley he pays out. He paid two games as someone say, I know that someone pricey will James James Farrior. They got him in free agency. Wasn't. He wasn't a superstar. Then the jets led him on for reasons. Some we'll say Ryan Clark. Ryan Clark was another guy that was on the he's on the scrapheap. Did they find these gems sometimes? And so I I don't know, man. I I'm trying to think of the last time those the big free agent move really in the division even that turned out to really pay dividends. I mean, you who's been more aggressive than people might think if Rainsy has been the ravens. Ravens have been very aggressive. You know, they went out and got those receivers nag granted flacco could throw the ball when he was in there and Lamar Jackson runs more than he throws. But they they went out and got Tony Jefferson. They got Eric Weddell. And so I guess maybe I'd answer. My question there. There are teams in the division that are doing it. I just don't know. Okay. So what are you gonna target? I if there's a if there's one that you say, look, we don't wanna draft pick. Here we need experience. What positions at inside linebacker. I'll give you an example, they need to aggressively. Go after CJ Moseley if he becomes available naked. They could go could CJ Moseley they need to go. Try to get CJ Moseley. You get better on defense and you weaken. The ravens go get them out. My gosh, could do that would be an that would rock Silmi different boats. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's gotta do. The funny thing is is you think about was it two or three years ago? When as we're watching right now Dont'a Hightower the Steelers very aggressive going after him, and they were one of two teams in the end of going back to the patriots. But so I guess maybe that's something they need to do. There's just not used to this situation, in my opinion, where you know, they're just not used to having to go out or they're not used to having the salary f- space team, go out and bake it. He moves. So I don't know. I agree with you know. Sounds like what just like not being used to dating the ten. I'm not used to dating the ten. I just feel kind of comfortable he so attractive, man. She's just makes me feel nervous to get over it. If you're out with a tin, stick your chest out, and let her strut because you know, supp-, you know, you're supposed to have a ten don't get scared with the cap space. Go ahead and get it done. Now, let me ask you this. I can't believe that play just happened for those watching live. Watching you watch the play. And I'm thinking, I'm talking. So I can't look. I don't know. What's happening? Let me just give people a little background earlier this season during the Steelers and land said, hey, what if we went live during the Steelers game in watch the game with you all I have to be honest that would be distracting lands 'cause you imagine a Steelers game. Oh my gosh. This is terrible. If we'd probably give banned because I hit his arm. I think we have beverages. I know I'd have a beer and didn't we'd be demonetized on. Yahoo. You what is wrong with Bill website? Anyways. Yeah. So nonetheless, I think we look at the Steelers of coming off season. And they're certainly. I guess my question for you. Now as a free agency this this gets brought up, and I this turned into an article at some point, do you think the Steelers are still a destination of free agents want to go to because it used to be a time. When players would say, I wanna play for Tomlin. I hear good things about Mike Tomlin. I mean, do you think that the Pittsburgh Steelers are still a an organization still venues still do you think it's still a place where guys you know, what I wanna go there? Do you think that's still being said, or do you think is the other way around you think it's more player saying man that places the circus that places drama central Mike Tomlin doesn't seem like even has control over there? There's no way I wanna go there. What do you think that is what do you think that vibe is going out there to free agents, you're off? It's fifty fifty. I still think that the organization and the Rooney's are respected and held in high esteem by players need. And different teams. So I still think they're held in very high esteem giving their history at a fact that they have six championships. And I also think that giving some of the things that players have said about namely, your guy number seven, John Elway junior aka big Benjamin about how he's not the greatest of teammate that there may be some issues with that. Because you know, he is gonna kick in the tail end and let you get hit by that sixteen d woods run bus and get run over by that. Let's say you're Mike Tomlin. Okay. You bring up Ben Rothlisberger. And he's been he has gotten his share scrutiny this off season in my opinion. Rightfully so he's my guy have not gonna deny that. But he deserves every bit of criticism. I think when it comes to how he decides elite. If you're my Tomlin Deepal bene- signs, look man sun's gonna change. You know, the the radio show has gotta stop or you got to stop doing this. Do you say that to him or do you just basically let? Do whatever the Ellie once I say, look man, if I'm going to get a challenge coach, you can't do the radio show. So we both got to give up something. I can't just pull from my gut. What I'm obviously wrong on challenges, and you need to shut the hell up and get off the radio show. You could afford a car. Free cars from the dealership now, you didn't get a car. I get I I really do think deep down inside. Ben rod, there's two there's two ongoing factors with him. Number one. Is he feels that? This is a just a way lead. I honestly think that he thinks what he's doing is not bad in that what he's doing is just the way that some people lead a he's not. I don't think that's accurate. I don't think that's truthful better the same time. I think that's what he thinks. I think the other thing is that he never wants to admit when he's the he's the problem when he's the mistake. So who knows I think he's just a sucker? I mean, some are just suck dudes. And they're just that's just kinda how they're wired that's in their DNA. And that's just how they do things. And he's in a position where he can do that. But but listening did you hear that Pittsburgh reference to sixteen d woods run bus, Pat bust? I used to catch that bus going downtown. L but north side. So you guys know that bus line if you're Pittsburghers. So as I'm watching this game right now for those who might be listening in audio form, you're probably wanting to talk about this is the potential muff. Punt with Julian Edelman in the patriots game. And they have yet on my screen to actually come up with the bullying, this is being magnified down to the most I guess the closest potential angle that they have. I'm not sure if it hits him Lance doesn't look like it does. I'll probably hit his bicep in my opinion ruling on the field was a muff. Punt in there's not enough evidence to overturn that. So we're gonna go and keep it, but I might be a little bit biased. My next question though. It doesn't have to do the championship weekend and the Steelers season. What is your thoughts on the officiating? Because I swear this has been awful those that watch the saints Rams earlier in the day on Sunday. Holy cow. If you're a saints fan, I feel bad for you. Because you have every single right to be a livid with the National Football League in livid with the rules and the officiating in general. I personally just oh my gosh, we answer. What are your thoughts on the officiating because the Steelers had been on the rough end of some really bad calls this season. Whether it's the botched false start against the chargers. What is the bogus to bogus pass interference calls against the saints, Lance? What are your thoughts on the officiating? How do you think is going to go down deficient in this terrible? His arm. Use what's worse about this car? I don't wanna believe this point is it's taking a five hundred years to make the call man give right or wrong, man. Just make the call. I'm not gonna jump out of the stands hit. She would have figure for lake locker. So we just make the call. It is what it is getting right wrong. Whatever. Oh, see this is what we do. Hey chiefs, get it. I guess I got the. Anyway, man, no spoilers vitiate is terrible. And I hate to say that because I have a personal friend who is an NFL ref, but the officiating terrible. It's absolutely it's a trophy this year, and they've got and they've got to get this better. Because I mean, it's a lot of the line games. A lot of jobs and a lotta times people's lives are at stake, and where they live on that stuff. And they gotta get this stuff right for the integrity game. Did you use spanned replay to allow penalties to be reviewed? Gosh. Could you long? Again, was look I liked the National Football League. I watch most of the games on thirty minute replays. Oh, good Lord. If I had to watch a four and a half hour game. It was just suck. Well, you could put rules in place that you could only challenge like you could have one penalty challenge a half. Now for Steeler fans are thinking gosh said the awful 'cause Tomlin would lose them, all but. He could say you challenge of penalty you've run of it. Yeah. Seriously. You could have one champion. It's a way to that. Okay. I digress. Let's get away from -ficiating because it's dad, we know it's been bad. See where fans feel that rath-. Definitely they spit that vitriol often in the saints as well day special often. It's so here's the thing for me. Now, let's get back to the Steelers general. We're talking about grades Viva doing grades throughout the off season. And we've had a couple of shows the audience been little clunky. And we did the quarterback offense of line. We did running backs and wide receivers last week. Didn't we Lance wasn't that? Yeah. Bought a LA don't lie. And it doesn't say let's go with the defensive side now. So the defensive side let's go with Cornerbacks and safeties doing defensive backs, and I'm anxious to hear what you have to say about the Steelers in this area. Because I know that you certainly have voiced your displeasure with this these physician groups, let's go quarterbacks. I lands. If you were to grade Steelers Cornerbacks in two thousand eighteen what would you give them? This is great that this is coming up, Jeff because do you think any Steeler play player would have made that interception? No. Yes. No hit right in the hands. They would have dropped it. I know Jeff what's to split up Cornerbacks and safeties. But a lotta times it's kind of interchangeable because these guys are in coverage. They're making plays. So so forth, different covered different things. I think the Steelers have to good corners. I think the best corner is Mike Hilton. I think he's probably one of the best corner. I think is probably Mike he'll play for play better than Hayden. Are you serious? He's better than hate. And I think he's the best arguably, arguably the best lot corner NFL, he's gotta be top three top four, you know. Well, five slot corners Hilton probably grading out top-five NFL, Tom and don't agree with that. Because he benched him towards the season. Well. He does. I mean, you know that that team disciplined who knows what's going on in there. 'cause it say Barnum and Bailey rings circus. I say that guy. I like I think Hilton's the best porn our team followed by Joe Haden. I think those guys are solid kanter's. I think those are guys that are quarterback that probably play for eighteen NFL the rest of those guys are average players. So overall, I would give the corners. Probably be probably be minus. I think that greatest raised by the play of Hilton in Joe Haden. Give those guys ABI Midas. I don't I don't know how I give a be in general. The I'll go solid see because I think that other teams there were several times where I watched the film advert, you do to Lance where I saw players wide open and. Why open and thankfully, those fifteen sex covered up a lot of that stuff. Extra hoops, Cody sensible is not a starting cornerback not now. And yet here we are talking about, you know, Cody sensible was the starter for ninety nine percent of the season. It seemed like Artie burns. We all know what he's turned into L Busta partout, maybe. And so I'm gonna go to see because like you say the guy doesn't lie. I've watched a lot of that film. And I'll tell you what they were times for if a quarterback had a second longer. And I know people might say, well, you know, what the pass rush and the pass rush in the back end they work hand in hand. I understand that. But at the same time, I also realized that I just wasn't good enough. And I I do I should say this. I am. Oh boy. Ways you dance? Anyways. I am happy. The fact that I think that if the Steelers twenty. If you talk about trading up in the draft if you talk about the potential of getting a higher pick. There are rookie Cornerbacks. They can come in from day one and they can start and they can play you agree with that Lance. Absolutely. How about this? We talked about it about being aggressive and things that the Steelers could change how about instead of trying to coax the absolutely bananas receiver back or the absolutely bonkers or the about BS receiver back while we just package that do for Patrick Peters period. Just packaging em up get aggressive fix this defense. Get a top-flight Kanner in here. Go get CJ Moseley, bang bang. Defense can roll run the football. Let's do it. How about that? I if that makes sense when you look at the numbers, it doesn't because you you're gonna go dead money to to Brown. He's on the team or not. And so I think that numbers around twenty two billion. So even though you're saving like a million in caps face. You're still going to be giving him that? Now, if you trade for Patrick Peterson you're gonna pick up Peterson's contract, and that's going to be another ten or so that means you're thirty technically of thirty million plus next season locked up into Patrick Peterson unless you can renegotiate a deal or something like that in get a a little bit more a salary cap is a little more friendly. I don't know Joe what what is. It's our job to think it think it it's their job to get it done. Oh, yeah. You're right. You're right. Okay. So we both agree that the cornerback situation. Although the free agent of you nice not saying that could happen. But they can't get a young guy to come in and play we've seen Jalen Ramsey. We saw Lattimore down in New Orleans. Even talk about the guy last name white for the bills. There's a Cornerbacks stepped in from day one and showed that they can play at a high level. And that's what the Steelers need. If you've Hayden for one more year, you need that you need them to play at a high level, you need to match that level opposite Hayden. And I think it will do wonders especially with Hilton in the slot. Okay. Jeff your impressive. Let me just give Jeff big props. Dusters pop your collar, Jeff by that. You actually knew a Buffalo Bills player. I'm impressed. I say more than one. Impress fast, more than you think, you know, more than you think you shady McCoy, you know, Josh Allens a quarterback, you know, you you used to know some of the receivers so they ship them all away, but still anyway, I appreciate the props that I personally props. Oh. Let's go to safety. This is a tough position quarterbacks in. It's all the different safety. You had Burnett who wants out you have Terrell Edmonds. He was basically the divas of iron man second to Sean Davis is yet to safety is they played the most defensive snaps on the team those two players. What are you? What are your thoughts on the safeties in terms of grades c average? No, no, see. Plus, I think those are two budding safeties. I think that'll be a nice safety combination moving forward. But I just think right now, they're average football players. I don't think they're above average guys. I think they have a lot of potential a thing. Sean Davis making sort of a positional switch, but he played solid this year. I think store meat on the bone, and if still some room for to grow for both of those guys so I'd give him a c plus I'm gonna give him a c just straight up. See because I wasn't press with Sean Davis. I think he'll be better next year with a year under his belt. I don't know, man. There's something about thrill Edmonds, and I'm not sure what it is. But I watch him play. And I'm just not sold on a lot of things I'm not sold on him being a first draft pick. I'm not sold on him being the guy at that. At that safety position strong safety. I'm just not sold on heaven. And I'm not saying I can't be sold. I'm just not sold right now. On him. So. One thing. Jeff, let me ask you if he were if you if he took better angles pursuit angles. It would be a lot better. Okay. His dangle. Coach that. Yeah. I feel a lot of that instinct. I think you can show guys. Okay. Because when you're a kid playing in the backyard and guys running away from you gotta know how to play the angle to get to them and get a dig at MaGee even make it close. And so I don't know it's gonna be interesting to see how he develops in. How he how he pans out? So there you have it. I give to seize you gave what was it a b minus in a c c plus. Yeah. Yeah. It was. I'll tell you. I'll tell you what I'm gonna do for the for the rest of this show. We're not going to go through the rest of the game. But it's this officiating in this. This has been absolutely atrocious. They just called roughing the passer and swear he hit him in the chest. These are the plays Lance it when we talk about the the hall of Famer Joe Gibbs saying that a football game come down to three or four penalty. Plays it sucks that these plays are now penalties, you know. Look at the saints game earlier today, it was a penalty that was a huge turnaround. You look at the the muff. Punt that was you know earlier today with element in this game. It's a penalty Brady gets called. They called roughing the passer when he hits him in the shoulder. I don't care if he raised his face mask did not in any way, shape or four all my gosh. He end it. The the NFL. I you. S it affair. It's. Oh, wow. They didn't call editor that was mugging. Oh that was Seattle little bit by air of berry where Eric berry the guy with that one. Looks like a homeless guy. Oh, gosh. Know what this is going to be interesting to see it's going to be interesting to see. I I do wanna mention lands. I guess I'll give you a chance to plug your show in what you've got going on this week since we're doing a show on now. On sundays. We got a full week ahead. Go ahead and tell the listeners what to expect from you this week with your show. Yeah. I said it. Bullish shows brewing. Got a couple of shows brewing that I want to get out there. I kind of forgot what my third if assault was. But I know my fourth episode. My fourth episode will be about Antonio Brown. Because I think some of you guys think I'm Antonio Brown apologised. So I definitely want you guys to hear this show. And based on the result of the patriot AFC championship game. I'm I have a very interesting topic that I think Steeler nation is going to. Absolutely. Hey, Jeff is get Jeff doesn't even like it. Like he Jeff is getting anxious back there when he heard the topic. And then I got another topic about a controversial running back that I think the Steelers should acquire. 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Yeah, I Said It: Why I cannot stand the NFL Draft

Behind the Steel Curtain

32:16 min | 5 months ago

Yeah, I Said It: Why I cannot stand the NFL Draft

"Welcome back listeners. To another episode of Year. I said you're checking out the program on Friday may eighth twenty twenty is always the show is hosted by yours truly Lance Williams before jumping to the program. I want to give a big shout to my co host of the homer the haters show and the standard is the standard and the editor behind is still curtain dot com. Big Up to Jeff Hartmann also WANNA give a big shout. The deputy Dave also known as the Oracle of the website. Dave Scofield want to give a big shout out as well to bid BRASCO into the WHO spin bad boy of the network also last but not least big. Shout out to Tony Death. You'll make sure you guys check out Brunch with Tony Tomorrow. And we were teasing What should tony eat tomorrow while he's doing brunch with Tony? I'm going with some pancakes. Maybe some French toast or something. Like that You know maybe some French toast with some Brioche bread. Something like really sweet in decadent so in. Tony brings the show to you. 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If you're in a show you've seen the title of the program. It's called year. I said it I hate the NFL draft. Let me say that again year I said it. I hate the NFL draft coverage. I don't hate the draft per se I hate. Nfl draft coverage at absolutely despise NFL draft coverage. It is absolutely the worst and I'm even knocking us at bt SC. I had a great time doing it. I had fun with all the guys going through the draft. Hate draft coverage. It's absolutely the worst. Let me give you the four reasons why. I hate the draft one rampant speculation. There's rampant speculation in people trying to be no strong dominance about every draft prospect or every nuance about the draft number. Two the attention given to players. That ain't done shit ain't done shit not at all nothing. At all and yes snowman. Captain Cranky is back. I was tired of being nice so I gotta be back. Captain Cranky is back. I've been in the house but like I'm not even going to say because everybody's been in the house but I am. Captain Cranky. Big Up to all the first responders in everybody that treating Kovic nineteen patients and and putting their health and wellbeing on the line number three the third reason. Why draft coverage mock drafts? Absolutely hate MOCK DRAFTS. Mock drafts were the worst there. Absolutely the worst yet. I am dropping. Bombs. It is Friday about the start drinking after I do this show yes. I hate draft mock drafts. They're full of Shit. They're horrible. They suck everywhere. Data the s bom suck mock draft suck and last but not least the reason why he draft coverage draft grades that come out two days after the draft and like John McCain said draft. Grades are worse than mock drafts. I just hated man. Like can't we just wait? Can we have some patients? How can a guy be a hall of Famer on Monday when he got drafted on Thursday? Come on man. Come on there and Brian to Brian Herring to be safe. You hate the draft and all that surrounded the urine. Wrong business bro. No I'm not. I just don't like the way to his covered. I love the steelers. I Love Brian in giving my opinions and thoughts to you. I'm in the right business clearly because you like me and like Bill Davis said nobody knows shit when it comes to the draft so I did not in the minority. I'm sure I'm not I? I know that I'm not. I just hate the way it's covered. I love the draft stories. How these young men get an opportunity to change their lives. Change their families live. I love that they are rewarded. After all that hard work with the opportunity to chase their dreams love all that that is great. I love all of that stuff but I hate the rest of the stuff. Embiid UP MELVIN AGAIN MEMBER OF A SCI-FI Q. Dog Big up to you again on your birthday. Hopefully you're drinking some oil having some ribs and right now get your atomic dog on right now in your living room. So I know Melvin right now just turned on atomic dog. And he's hopping in his liver room do earner new to do do do do bow out. Wow Yippie yo you be a big up to you and I had to give you the extra super shot out my son in law's Q. My Godfather's a Q. I got a bunch of cues in my family. I am not a cute but big up to all the cues to mega sci FI. Big Up to all y'all so let me just say this. Let me get back to the point. Rampant speculation what people cover the draft. They cover every frigging angle possible every. Forget angle possible okay. So everybody knew that Joe Borough was going to the Cincinnati bengals. How many times did you hear teased that? Mr Little hands was not going to ingles while maybe the bengals will. They'll trade the number one draft. Pick to get extra picks. Maybe the word may be overused when it comes to the draft. Will maybe tour. If it's hip wasn't as good as it was last year he would supplant Joe Borough as the number one pick but that hit was like it was this year it would be like. I just can't take I mean I just can't take the rampant speculation that just goes on on and on and on and on when it goes with the comes in goes with the draft. Are they going to move up or do you think Dell trade back will they trained laterally with a tray diagonally will they trade perpendicularly? Will they trade? Look I I I just can't take it. I just can't take it. I can't take the rampant speculation. And then what they do is they. They do this. They go well a source said okay. I have a source too. I have. I have a source to an my source says that draft speculation is full of Shit. That's what my sources you know. Even all the speculation even at BTC like speculation and we did. All we think still is going to trade up in the trap. They're going to do this. They picked every single pick. The rampant speculation is just off the charts. I can't take it if I want to speculate on some other stuff. How speculate that the stock market is GONNA go up? I picked a good stock that I make a whole bunch of money. I can speculate on some other stuff. That's worth something I mean it's just it's just arable. I hate the rapid speculation. And I'm probably hitting the network that you guys. No hidden is the foreign letter network. Espn which is the worst. Espn is absolutely the worst. That's why you guys should come to be. Tse were more entertaining. We give you more information and we break it down better. Espn sucks they. Just come up with speculation on top speculation. I call it. The speculation layer cake. Were ONCE SPECULATION. Leads to another speculation which layers on top of another speculation. Then you come with speculation icing. That's why I hate draft coverage. Let me just say that. That's why I hate draft coverage. Hey everyone this is. 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Every Tuesday and Friday. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. At wherever you listen to podcasts. Let me go to my second point. Attention given to players that have been proven shit now the only people that should get a ton of attention for not doing anything. Our babies babies are the only entities in the world. That should get a ton of attention for not doing anything. All babies do our look cute. They just look you smell fresh look cute they make sounds they got those big doe. Is You look at them and you just fall in love with them. Babies are the only type of people that should get attention for not doing shit because babies are fresh. They're new they're just potential potential. You love babies in your potential. You look baby you can see their future in your eyes you look at yourself. It makes you feel good. It makes you say I'm going to be a better person. I'm going to be a better man because I want and I see and I want this baby to be the best of the baby can be and I can see the potential of the young child when I look into. The child's is our whole child up in the air like it was roots and I say a prayer to the ancestors just looking at the baby for the potential. What DEBATE IS GONNA be last time? I checked JOE BOROUGHS MR little hands. He ain't a baby he's a guy that got beat out by the Wayne Haskins in had to transfer to Lsu. He did put up stupid numbers. But we don't know what these guys are going to be. We don't know what these guys are going to be. These guys have played one single snap. And let me give you an example of why the coverage of these guys that hasn't done anything and just have potential is distorted we on this network bt TSE talk ad nauseam about Devin Bush steeler nation. Top at Naseem about Devin Bush. Espn TALK AD. Nauseam Devin Bush before he was drafted before he played a snap Devin. Bush was the flavor of the month. All I think Devon Bush can be the next Ryan Shay Zere. I think he's a combination of Ryan ear. Lambert Ham Kirkland. He could be the greatest linebacker ever. He could also not be giving you my example. Anybody mentioned Devin Bush. Has Anybody said anything about Devin Bush after he actually played football? Like if you WanNa talk about a player actually have something to talk about than potential the only people. You should just massively speculating. Talk about the potential. Our babies not football players. If a guy doesn't have any game snap or game tape to evaluate. They should not get that much attention now. The attention should be on Devon Bush. We should be breaking and Bush down breaking down as snaps. How was he in coverage? Is He a good sackler? Did he live up to all of the mass speculation that we had about Devon Bush last year? So that's why hate draft coverage attention that's given to players that ain't done shit or Diddley or nothing or could buds are not unknown. Or whatever you WANNA call it. That's why this coverage is distorted. This would be a great time to break down seven Bush's rookie campaign breakdown. His weaknesses his positives things that you'd think he could improve on but guess what that requires that requires actually watching film knowing something about football not just pull it out S So I'm saying that's why I hate draft coverage so that's my first two points. My next point is draft. Mocks or mock drafts. Absolutely hate my dress so I hate my draft so much in the rampant speculation when it comes to mock drafts. I could look at four guys that are known for mop drafts Mel Kiper. Espn ethic Daniel Jeremiah's at the NFL. Network Peter King. Cnn Sa it's mcshea at ESPN. I'm just GONNA look at the percentages as the number of picks that they got right in the first round and given how bad they are with their mock drafts. Why in the hell do we pay attention now? Big Up to Melvin. He doesn't pay attention to mock drafts. Melvin smart but many people listen to mock drafts and they're just dumb. They're stupid let me let me give you make Shay type. Mcshea got six of thirty two right. Eighteen point seven percent. Peter King got of thirty two right twenty eight percent Ed Daniel Jeremiah. Eight of thirty to twenty five percent and Mel kiper junior of ESPN six thirty to eighteen point seven percent. So if you add the two espn talking heads. They have earth's brown right they suck. Here's the thing. Here's the nugget that I wanNA point out what I when I say these four names who did the best of the four names the guy that actually does not watch an iota of film. It was Peter King. Peter King was better than the guys that actually make a bit of doing it. That's helps you. This is bad. Mock drabs are terrible in. This is why I don't like draft coverage draft coverage that the guy who isn't a draft analyst. Get of thirty two windy so called quote on quote on quote unquote in cocoa cocoa quote quote unquote experts gas. Six thirty to hell. I could get my youngest daughter downstairs. Shore a list of people in have her point at names and she'll get four but with football fans we're like Sheikh being herded to the slaughter. We go to website after website after website after website after a website. Mock draft one my draft to mock draft three four five six mock draft seven eight nine ten eleven twelve. Thirteen mock drafts are terrible. Hey Big Rush. Not at thirteen a bad. It ain't bad it ain't good. If you were not at thirty two on tests you'd be you'd be a dummy you graduated. You would have no degree. You'd still be a continuation school. All they do is throw this shit up. Hope it sticks on the wall and they just say anything for views likes whatever. They are apt soon. Louis stupid so when you had rampant speculation attention given to players that haven't proven shit potentials only use for babies. That's IT and draft marks. You can understand why I absolutely despise and hate draft coverage. Now let me just put the icing on the cake and this last piece might be the piece that I hate. The most is draft grades draft draft grades of the worst You know draft grades like going out with a young lady. You'd think she's cute. You have a first good first date and get try to just pick out your future and see if you'll be a couple of fifty years from now. Hell you don't know and Roberts Acetates I have not even gotten or hitting gotten excuse me I not even had a SIPA COGNAC yet. Jeff knows I hate the draft. Jeff hates the draft as well he he as the draft as well drive. I don't know what he's do. Have these do suck. That's the other thing about it is most of these dudes are average. Not Not even say average. Only a few are average. Only even fewer become superstars and most suck most of these is. You've never heard of in. Won't you won't hear outed you'll hear about these dudes. I challenge any of you guys. Go get a street and Smith go get an. Espn go any get any fish. Wrap or website that you look at and look at some old draft coverage have to do our in our in the League anymore. And most of the guys sucked. I mean you know like Eddie. Xp He said he drafted his wife but a six row big up. Any you know hopefully traded a couple of picks to move up into round and get her off the top of the six brow hopefully but last not least man draft grades. How can you great a draft? When a guy hasn't played a snap. How how can you do that? I mean how? How can you do that? Let me just give you guys a nugget in. Brian sank you. I'm almost done with my rant. This is my topic for the day Mr Harrington are you joey you joey's cousin? Hopefully you're not joey's cousin because you're not joyous cousin you can't complete passes consistently. I had to knock you like that. I'm a CAL fan. I'm McCallum after Knock Oregon fans. Hopefully you're not related to Joey Harrington if you are to get gang yes big up to Felicia thank you for the five or chat lands after hearing you rant please relaxing get yourself drinking. Chill hater plus points. Hey Man I had to. I had to go with. I was losing my mo Jo. Well let me just say this and I want to give a big shout out. Jim Wechsel a steel city insider dot com. Jim does a fantastic job of covering steelers longtime friend of my programs. Jeff is fantastic. Big Up to snowman as well snowman as Snowman's question before I jump into Jim's point. What game are you looking forward to watching this season October? Eighteenth versus the Cleveland Browns in the Burgh. Now I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DALLAS GAME. Always like to see the classic. The classic matchup I'm a seventies baby. I'm turning fifty in June. So the cowboys steeler matchup is always classic to me that that is a match up. I like to see and also I want you to Ravens game on Thanksgiving. I think that's great their Turkeys Turkey and they'll get stuff like stuffing you'd get the unusual not to touch but my friend. Jim Wexler said he put it the best way. The only way you evaluate anything in the national football league and this goes to draft grades is wins and losses. That's it that's it. That is the only way you can great draft or great anything. It's wins and losses right. Who cares if you go out and draft or pro bowlers? If you're if you suck you don't make it to the play offs. Who Cares if myles Garrett is a hell of a player the Brown stink? It's all about wins and losses at the end of the day. If your team is winning you I give him give a rat's about who drafted you're gonNA worry about if you're winning or losing that's it now drafting well may help you. Sustain that or sustain waiting but bottom line everything is framed about winning Devin. Bush was a great rookie. Is anybody like ecstatic about it? Because the steelers missed the playoffs. I mean everything is within the frame in the context of winning. That's it no more no less that's it. It's just winning football games so if you drive good players put you suck. You're drafting F. You can't have a draft but lose a bunch of games that's it. And if that's Ruben here with a live chat. I think that's my little cousin. Big Little 'cause thank you for jumping on the program and showing you some love and support. Stay safe out there. Baby boy this is about winning losing. That's facts hashtag facts. I don't care if it's dealers have no draft picks if you win a super bowl who cares hashtag. Facts cares about the draft if you suck. That's it that's it. It's about winning or losing when I had this conversation with and this was after we either view Jim for show I'm going on about. How do you great drafts? And how do you do this already? Baba Blah Jim said look man. It's about winning and losing. That's about it and I had. I was like Oh shit. Hey everyone it's Jimmy model on the of Vedran run a new show on qube produced by the team at Polygon. Speed run gives you your daily dose of the biggest gaming and entertainment news. Every weekday will give analysis of the latest video games and highlight. Some of the best of the gaming community will cover everything from the twenty year. Evolution of action role playing games to the breakout success of riots. New valent for stories like this and much more Donald Kirby APP to watch new episodes of run every weekday this complex. All of you draft somebody rounded. It's about winning and losing hash. Tag Facts those are the facts if you win. You had a good draft if you lose your draft. Something that's it. Let me jump into some of the questions. Big Russia's question big Russia. Can we talk about how I hope the steelers don't sign bud debris to a long term deal? I'm with you I'm with you. I don't think from a salary CAP perspective. And it's GonNa be interesting moving into twenty twenty one. I know you guys are tired of hearing news about covert nineteen. I think I am as well. I think we all know where it is and house impacting. Everyone's live in. It's impacting everybody's Li- significantly but if there aren't fans in the stands local revenue which is part of the equation into the salary cap is GonNa get severely hit so there are estimates that each team salary cap or the salary cap in general the top number for the salary cap could decrease by forty million dollars thirty to forty one million dollars. So what that means is unlike Melvin. Said is if you're a thirty nine year old quarterback with the forty one million dollar cap it next season you might be in trouble it also says. How can you allocate if your salary Cap Gibson? The campus I would say that's about two hundred million. I think it's a hundred ninety eight. Let's say two hundred million if you're cap is reduced to a hundred sixty million. You'RE NOT GONNA be able to afford to outside linebackers 'cause TJ is going to be the highest paid defensive player in the National Football League. You're not going to be able to afford to outside linebackers with the salary. Cap Number combined north of forty million and have a forty one million dollar cap allocation for quarterback. That can't happen. That will not happen. Don't agree entirely. That duprey is a product of T. J. Watt but I will say this head. He produced like Over the course of his force for five years. There'd be no question you keep those booking guys together but they draft outside linebacker to get after the quarterback in niche draft for. He's a replace meant. He is a replacement so I just don't think with no fans and there aren't going to be fans I am going to look into my crystal ball and tell you that I work in this industry. There aren't going to be any fans. I'm going to tell you that there will be no fans so I think that at the salary cap is going to shrink and it is going to be interesting and near Jeff my talk about a little bit on Sunday but I do think it make sure you hit the light but been rothlisberger could be a cab casualty because of it. I mean he could be a cap casualty because of it before I get out of here and go have my cognac and I urge you guys to not do like me because I'm bad like that. Who's Mr Two am again? I hate the draft coverage. Yeah I said it. I hate draft coverage. The reasons are simple. The rapid speculation the attention given to players that haven't proven shit draft mocks or mock drafts in draft grades. Let me jump into this last question from big rush. Thank you for contributing for ninety nine to the program. It's also time to move on from Cam as much as I love him. He's getting older and we pay our own too much they fall. Sometimes I will disagree with one hundred percent cameras. Play the best ball of his career in the last. Three Seasons and defensive line is a position where you can age. Well they need to resigned. Cam because this defense moving forward because Ben won't be here for the foreseeable future I mean been at most is GonNa play two years built around this defense but continue to dig into the draft to try to get their replacements and get a little bit younger at the position. But I love Cam. Hey He packs and lunch Pail And he brings it everyday before I get off the show. If Ruben this must be my cousin Ruben Hill in the live chat. Big Up to you rube. I appreciate the support. Thanks for hopping onto the program Love you Bro. Be Safe and with that man. I'M GONNA go ahead and conclude the show but I wanNA make sure that all of you guys stay safe man socially distance If you can wear a mask wash your hands take care of your fellow member of the nation and let's make sure that the nation takes care of the nation is always tune in to a friend and subscribe.

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Steelers Q&A: With Bud tagged, Ramon retired and a trio of cuts, whats next for the Steelers?

Behind the Steel Curtain

53:45 min | 7 months ago

Steelers Q&A: With Bud tagged, Ramon retired and a trio of cuts, whats next for the Steelers?

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Because today we get to go on right after the. Cba was signed yesterday and they were able to start making moves today and they have made a ton of moves in our question is what's next as always. Tony and I would like to welcome you to be a part of the show you so important to the process. We love having you here. Remember if you do have a question on. Qna wait in about. We talked about twenty minutes to go ahead and put those on the live chat. Then we'll let you know when we're GONNA open it up to questions and we're GonNa hear everything that you have to say if you want to support the show it's as easy as just listening telling a friend hitting like subscribing on Youtube and if you do want to throw in a live. Chat Day Super Chat in throw in some of your hard earned money to help out with a show. You're allowed to do that. We'll put you up to the Q. As always But with that being said we have a special guest coming on in a little bit. No it is not a Pittsburgh steeler if you saw me your trying to solicit a Pittsburgh steeler on On twitter today that is not true. That's not who's going to be on it's going to be somebody from bt. Se that you know and love but Tony how are you my friend? Hey Brian Happy Monday. Hope your weekend was great and boy. Do we have a lot to talk about you? Tell you what we're the ones that get to go on after all of this happened and there's so much to happen. There's so much still that's going to happen. Sober glad to hear from you. First and foremost before we get and everything else. Hope everybody is finding a way to say. Stay safe in all of this confusion and this this crazy landscape here in Maryland. Everything is about to be. Shut down to five. Pm Now it's shutdown that's gems restaurants. Now you can still go to a drive through. You can get carry out and stuff like that. I mean you can still eat out. They could deliver it to you. Just can't go sit down and hang out at a bar in a restaurant so Anybody that Anybody that wants to hang out at the bar of Tony bad you very well can. So No. I'm I'm looking up at the I'm looking at the live chat which I'm going to try to Keep my eyes focused this way. But it's not Ian Wet stone. He'll be on the show not our show but the show a little later on in the week. I'm probably on the standards. The Standard but the special guest star is even better than that in fact. Let's just throws face up on the board. Hey you can't beat having Jeff Hartmann and on the show deputy editor. He's not editor. What I'm used to having the not deputy Dave. Yeah it's not that. I'm sorry I'm a everybody's trying to guess who the special guest is going to be Jeff and there and then I just I just got all Hammered in the head trip because a lot of people Logan de Lorenzo's thinking that I'm going. He's one of the few people like my tweet trying to solicit Ryan Switzer today so he was hoping it was Switzer. Job Man wants flip on for me. That's fine I can leave. That's that's not a job in. We've got beef anyways. So that's I tell you what if flips on the show he and I will just fight entire time. You probably won't see flip and I on the same show but with that we're just getting started. Jeff it we are lucky to be in the position of getting the talk about all these great moves all at once whether they're great or not but everything happened and I figured Tony could deliver it well but having you on the show just makes it so much better so we appreciate having here. Let's start with the very first move of the day. Something that a lot of us knew that was going to happen. And we figured this was going to push the domino's down and help shape everything it's the franchise tagging of. Budde do pre Jeff. Tony what are your thoughts? Let's start with Jeff. I mean I guess I'll answer your question with a question. Did anything happened today. That was unexpected. Yes I would say that outside of Ramon Vases Retirement. I mean Tony. Do you think I did anything happened? That was unexpected because to me it was fast and furious. A lot of things happened at once. Wasn't really that surprised. That wasn't really that shocked. Ray Maybe go. Toni may maybe the maybe the The releasing mark Barron might have been a bit of a surprise since he played so much for them last year. But I think even. That wasn't a huge shocker. I think everything whether it was foster retiring or being cut. I think we knew they were going to move on from him. And it was just a matter of Of when the Baron but I mean we talked about a lot on a lot of our shows that he was a potential his cap. It was so high. That if you're gonNA ones like you said Ryan once they tagged to pre it was the domino effect. You now have to free up. What we found out is fifteen point. Eight million dollars not the sixteen point see we thought under the old. Cba There's GonNa have to be a lot of cuts so brian. Were you surprised? I was surprised with one move. I just didn't expect them to do the Johnny Hell. Excuse me joining Houghton move. I just didn't really. I think that was going to happen. And I almost said Helton because I know a lance was thinking that you said on one of our yeah. Reproduction show tweet tweets But one of our our live chats that we have going behind the scenes. I thought maybe you said Hilton. So it was like a lot of confusion and I see a lot of fun as we chuckled at each other. But I I I just didn't think Houghton would go but they they got almost a million dollars out of that. What nine hundred ninety or so eight fifty five? I think I saw okay so close to a million dollars. That's the that helps out quite a bit and you know. They basically don't think that they're going to need him going forward. So that's fine The only other guy that I actually thought was going to get cut and they would get some savings from would have been Jordan. Bury your favorite player. Jack Eight he would. I don't know how much they would davies. Two million it was close to two million Still my cut you point five. They still might option. C. Tony's on my board to cut him to I. I don't I don't I don't I wanted to cut him last year. I don't know why he was able to stick around for the last two training camps. But yeah if he if he's making or if he's a two million dollar campaign and I think he's somebody you can variously move on from you know and then send him back to the Melbourne McDonald's where he was where he was serving up happy meals. I don't know exactly what he did there. But rumor has it that he did Shank if you fries so I'm sure that's true but that's kind of what I heard really bad jokes. I have to throw him in there. Welcome to the Q. And A. Jeff. Sorry about I know. You're not used to this kind of humor when I when I'm on the other show but you know and the other move that I don't know if it's quite official but David Scofield put out there. I don't know if this is for public consumption but it seems like the rumor out there right now. Is that Vance? Mcdonald is reworking his deal. I don't know if that is completely official or not. But that could be another five million in Being deferred into a bonus into a signing bonus his base salary so. I don't know what all you've heard. Tony have you heard that at all Just from you in a couple of people mentioned it and live chat but if that is true. Then that's that's one of the things about the being approved as you get the conduct business like normally witnessed something they would normally do is restructure contracts into the future to try to free up space so jeff you think that this is a move that could have them just clearing clearing more space to take care of business or to actually bring somebody in an Davis texting me before I came on the air about. How do we handle this article this that and the other day? They're not done. I think the steelers make I'll say to moves in free agency. Maybe even three in. They're not going to be day. One moves you're not going to be. Maybe maybe one of them's a day to move. It's going to be your day to day. Three type free agency move but they still have a lot of work to do to do that. You know you have fifteen point. Eight million for the franchise tag which was given the budget pre earlier today. They've already freed up just over fifteen million so they still don't even have that covered so if they were to get this deal done with Vance McDonald that would give them the budget pre money. I gotta gotTa find some more money to bring in anyone. You know so with that case. You're looking at restructuring contracts. You're looking at maybe getting someone like Cam Hayward a new contract because they still have to free obey significant amount of money. Now Dave's GonNa run article tomorrow about how trying to get budget pre on a long term contract is vital because if they could do that they upwards of ten million dollars this year on the cab because it would take that fifteen point eight and probably pushed it down to like five that significant. But I think there's still gonNA be players people. I know that fans are wanting those day one. I've text but they're looking for those early franchise free agency moves. Don't expect that but I think they're going to be players. I still do think they're gonNA make some days. Do you think there's a possibility of a tag in trade or do you think they're married of Bud depre- At this point? You're asking me I I think the tagging trade is very unlikely as much as we can sit here and wax poetic about how it makes a Lotta sense and how it's honestly a it would be a good move. I don't think there's a team out there. That is that dire in need of a pass rusher especially someone like bud debris hasn't done it for the long haul. That is good a one not just pay in that fifteen point eight this year but try to renegotiate long-term deal. I Dunno Tony. What do you think? I don't think it's going to be willing to give up a first round. Pick for him for that price tag. So no I I. I think it's Kinda a long shot for that to happen with what Bud DuPrey has been staying fellas and Tony. I'll start with you. Do you feel that but duprey wants to be here long term because it seems like he has or is that just is that just lip service at this point. Is he trying to get a long-term term deal done with the steelers or is this a situation that it could go down the Libyan Bell Road and then I and he is not here next year not him? I wanted to work out a deal. I mean you know you haven't Levy on bell. I mean it was pretty obvious from from early on. Did he wanted to be the highest paid running back. He wanted to be the highest. Paid running back and you also want to be paid as receiver you haven't heard that from debris. I think last year was his. What do you make nine million dollars last year? So you know if you can get him a deal and even if at eleven averages eleven twelve million a year. I think he would be happy with that so I think you could you? He's somebody you could get get signed to a long-term doing I think he's. He's probably more sincere with his Talk and about what was a couple years ago? Jeff thoughts. Let's be honest in today's national football league. There's no loyalty anymore. It's all about the money it's all about the money and like Tony just said Lady Bell wanted to reset the running back market in proved that his value has both receiver in a runner were unprecedented and he. He didn't do that. We know this. I don't think Bud depre- is in that camp. I don't think he's viewing himself as a von Miller type it's gonNA require Super Super Ridiculous contract but at the same time he wants paid what he feels. He's worth in so it comes down to the question of do the steelers values and how they view. Najib with how he views himself. If those two or equal they'll get a deal done and he'll say because it's where the money is if it's not and he's GonNa play one year and he's going to be hitting the all the I don't think they're gonNA tag him again so he would be a one year. And then he's an unrestricted free agent after twenty twenty. But I don't know I think this is a smart move by the steelers vacant somehow a yes. I understand that in terms of the salary cap it would be a burden but if if they don't get a deal done let's see what he does in twenty twenty because if he doesn't perform well if he kinda reverts back to his years one through four bud debris they didn't spend a bunch of money in a long term deal but at the same time it's A. It's a gamble as if he plays extremely well again. Let's see as twelve thirteen sacks on top is eleven and a half from two thousand nineteen when you got to pay more money so that's that's the predicament that you're in that situation okay. Over under point zero one percent Giovane hargrave stays with the steelers. Let's start with you jeff under under. There's no money there's nothing there's nothing it's gotta be negative hero so yeah and this is something we knew and going going through this whole process that it was going to be one or the other and we pretty much felt. This was going to happen. This way but You know you have to bring that up too. So that's another domino. Not Really. That's odometer. That's GonNa fall pretty soon. As as we wish him. Best as Jae-bong Hargrave does sent his services to another team we just hope it's not in the AFC north Yeah Daddy goes to Baltimore with them. Picking up glaze Campbell Claes Campbell. And now it looks like the browser having no problem spending money. There's a I don't know if the room on the live chat is true but there's a possibility. Jack Conklin somebody put on the live chat but I have not seen any confirmation of that but they went and picked up a tight end as well today. Austin Hooper probably been number one tight end out on the market. I think the steelers would do well by keeping Vance McDonald especially with with Ben. Rothlisberger being back. But what do you think the next move is going to be fellas? I'm thinking that it's time to look and take care of their own. And the next the next move was a couple of laughs filer and Finney and figuring out where those guys go. We already had the The other F figure it out as foster on lots of offense of line that usually plays like an a but as foster has a retired. Looks like they were trying to get him Another team he decided to retire there. That leads me to believe that there weren't any interest so does foster retiring help. The situation with Vinnie and filer Jeff. I don't think I don't think you plays into it at all because we all agree that foster wasn't going to be there anyways but you speak a filer. Hold on the point. You bring up when we talked about money available You know the available cap space if they're going to tender either Hilton and or filer. They have the money for that to you. Know IF THEY PUT A. Yeah Yeah. There's a second or third round tender on either one of these guys. They have to have that a lot when the league year starts. This team is in no way. Shape performed done with their moves. I wouldn't be shocked if maybe there's another player that's cut but I mean I think feiler has to stay. I think Hilton Estes. David in terms of the offensive line shoot. I don't think you're gonNA see many moves other than filers tender. In my opinion hiring is difficult. You're looking for the just right candidate for your team's unique needs but knowing where to start the search can be challenging according to ziprecruiter research three out of four employers say. They're having a hard time filling open positions. If you've got a difficult role to fill no matter what industry you're in hire with Ziprecruiter and right. Now you can try Ziprecruiter for free at ZIPRECRUITER DOT com slash. 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But I mean if you if you wanted to if you're just focused on the offensive line like we talked about last week If you tender filer and he could play left guard and then you have options at right tackle with szucs and sacked banner so that might be a direction they go in and and and you know I don't think you could. You could afford to keep both filer. Anthony Jeff Yes now. My question to you is are they done with the cuts? You mentioned earlier that you don't think that they are is. Who Do you think would be next? Upper would there be a surprise in their guy like Jordan. Berry I view as expendable. I feel like you could get someone that could replace his production that the big question mark with that is what is he is a holder to to you. Know the wizard of Oz. Chris Boswell and that's that's very specific to every kicker is the person holding the football so unless Boswell says look he's my guy you can't get rid of him that could be a surprise. I guess but as you said that would be a surprise. I think this surprises might come with contract stuff. You might see Ben Rothlisberger renegotiate. You might see Stefan to Redo his contract. You might see a new contract for came hayward I don't know maybe they get Juju Smith Schuster a contra. I don't know but there's something about this situation tells me they aren't done because they wanNA make moves in free agency that they don't have any capital to do so like none literally nuts class and a couple of months. Yeah if it's under draft class. Do they have to make that? It's not to be honest with you. Know the funny thing about the draft classes there are only paying six men instead of what the nine that they had to pay. Last year. Were could have been eight. But there's been situations where they've been paying. I remember back in Antonio Brown's Year when Pouncey was a rookie in sanders in what a class by the way You know don't forget Jason Worlds was in the class. When those guys were coming in you know that was they kept most of those guys. So they're not going to be bringing unless they make a trade. They are not going to be bringing anybody in speaking of trades. There were some crazy trades around the league today and you know the Ravens were involved in not a crazy trade. But when that just ticks me off because they got another second round pick by dealing Hayden hearst. So that's a into a team. That definitely needs it in the NFL can to lost their tight end today. So that's an interesting deal. That makes them stronger. Claes Campbell makes them stronger but probably The two biggest trades were watching an all pro and deforest buckner become one of the highest paid defensive players in the league now that he's with Indianapolis Colts getting down for a first round draft. Pick and of course De'andre Hopkins. Here it is. Oh my gosh. You're waiting for it. I have to build it either the Andrea Hopkins for David Johnson. Probably the craziest one if you are an Arizona Cardinal Fan right now you have Kenyan drake and you just brought to you Andrea Hopkins. You're probably love in life. What if you're a Houston Texans fan outside of just how period but I would also ask a question and I don't know the answer to this and I'm not speculating? But if I was a fan I would wonder. Is this guy cancer in the locker room because that trade it just seemed like they were dumping him you talking about the best wide receivers in the game and it just seemed like the bill. O'brien was finally. We just need to give them. That's almost what it felt like to me. It almost felt like cancer with Antonio Brown. But we'll take anything. The raiders will give you a third and a fifth. Okay sure take it just. We want him gone. That's what it felt like to me. Because no one in their right mind would make that trade unless to me. There's some there's an undercurrent there and I don't know Tony if you agree or disagree Tony. Well I mean from everything I've heard about a hundred hopkins. He's a good citizen. So I mean that would make sense if it was whereas you know you heard about of his character which is supposed to be pretty good. I didn't hear just wondering I didn't Allen you know no no I get that. It just doesn't make any sense that you're taking you know how quickly to the running backs depreciate the NFL now and you're you're you're you're taking that on and you're giving up probably one of the top four five receivers in the NFL. Maybe the best receiver in the NFL. And how do you think the Shawn Watson I mean? Here's a good young quarterback and you've taken away one of the best weapons in the game for a for running back so I I just I when I saw my friend texted me about it and I just I. I was shocked. I just it just didn't make any sense to me and it still doesn't make any sense. Let me say let me say this cuyler. Murray even just in year two is not going to have an excuse not enough talent because as you said Brian. He's of Kenyan. Drake he still has Larry Fitzgerald Mr Dependable. And he obviously now has one of the best receivers in football but a lot of people are speculating. Saying oh my gosh now. This deal was not finalized to Wednesday. They're saying how is how is another team in someone brought up the saints. The New Orleans Saints. Al's another team. Not Seeing the same will give the cardinals. We'll give you what we're GonNa Texans more for this than just what they gave. We'll give you more eight. It's crazy it's A. That's that's why my mind went through there has to be something else might not be right. There's no way in my opinion. O'brien it is either. Gm Do yes. Yeah Oh my gosh. He's putting his head on a platter right now. It's on if he doesn't win this year. You just sign you to sign your your pink slip. That's gotTa say absolutely just When I saw that I was like Whoa. It is on and of course. My texts and tweets blue. They it's well. How are you know a bigger question? Maybe for the steelers is how how was the? How were the ravens able to get Campbell? Fifth Round Pick. I mean that seems like like another team could have swooped in and got him for a third or fourth round. Pick if they wanted to the salary dump. They didn't WanNa pay his salary anymore. Ravens picked it up full depth. Do it so. That's that's the problem with that. Hopefully their their money will go away soon. Question guys go ahead and read. That is I'm just going to thank Paul. Balk love your videos. He threw one ninety nine in the live. I didn't want to lose that. Paul we do appreciate you and thanks for joining us. Jeff I want to say there was someone in the live chat. Just had just had a kid. I I lost it. But congratulations man was literally like yesterday. they had a little baby girl says he's nation gains and other ones so I won. His last name was Marino grand. I did not see that or I would've definitely brought that up. If you have just had a child and not him I think his job. Yeah we come forward. That's not the question newsy. This question was an article that ran on the on the site. Today Michael Bag. Who's a volunteer contributed website road? I don't know if you all saw off or not. There's a lot of rumors about James Winston to the steelers. He cited the sources like Peter King. Chris Simms of NBC. These are not like So and so from some blog spot website in his mom's basement. This is not those type of reports these legitimate journalists and so because of that I did. Is there any way possible? Jesse Marina there. It is congratulations. He might not be in the livestream. Or we wish. Congratulations so congratulations yeah. Is there any way in your own mind that you could see it possibly happening that it or would you want it even happened for Jameis Winston to come to Pittsburgh be the backup learn for a year and then navy be the Guy I wanNA get your take? I'm not going to give my opinion. Brian what do you think I just think i? I don't WanNa be that guy but what kind of money. I mean where we where we coming up with that money and I'm the one that always says that but that's just not one of the priorities at this point and if you're going to bring a guy like that in than it is going to be definitely bargain-basement at this point and I don't think Jayme West wants to go for bargain basement. It's just you know I would bring talent in anytime I anyway. I could heck I one case keenum in here so I would take a great backup. A good back in for keenum. Whatever happens I will love it at number four here in Pittsburgh but you know I just don't I just don't think fits what they're doing and there's definitely more pressing things that need to be taken care of so i. I would not think that they would ahead and do that. If they're going to bring in another quarterback. I think it's going to be like a Matt Moore a case keenum. A guy like that that is is just a a grizzled veteran in a backup legion? Tony Yeah I I I agree. I don't know what the the lack of of quarterback count around the league. I I can't see Winston Wanting to go somewhere where he's Reno's is going to be a backup for at least a year. Maybe two and settling for for that kind of salary when you could probably go out and get get What fifteen twenty million at least from from a team willing to give it to them you know. I agree with Brian. You know at this point you're going to want a guy who is content with being a backup but I don't think Winstons GonNa WanNa sit around for two years and and we have to remember doesn't really like that kind of stuff anyway. You know. He doesn't he didn't he. Was Kinda threatened by Mason? Rudolph how how do you think it'd be threatened by a former number one overall? Pick so I don't I don't see it happening at all and and again they have no money so I don't know where these people are coming up with this stuff but whatever it gave us something to talk about. I don't think the den is intimidated or threatened by Mason Rudolph anymore after two thousand nineteen years ago. But I think I definitely being threatened by that by Winston at least for twenty twenty. Ben Is more intimidated by a Mason Jar. At this point I think after last year. Jeff I wanNA thank you so much for coming in. Do you have anything else to go ahead. And throw out the group after a very busy day of The new two thousand twenty year. That's getting ready to start for me. It's just ask the editor of the website and the overall leader of our podcast platform stay with the website and the channel. We are going to have every bit of news in commentary. That's Tony's emo is the commentary side of things. We're going to have everything for you throughout this week. Says things are GONNA get crazy and I call it. The free agent frenzy for a reason today was absolutely nuts on the website public twelve or thirteen stories. Everything from the Big Raguz retirement down some commentary about James Washington and Ben. Roth's I'm actually going to put that back up on the front so Job Man hit the brakes. Good Lord across right now I want to say that we have one hundred and forty plus people in the live chat right now. I WanNa make sure everyone those checkout our show to the rest of the week. I know the Brian Plugs. It I just want to plug it again. And then check out behind the steel curtain DOT com. Because a lot of people find this podcast. That don't know that we are a branch of that website. So it makes you check that guys. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Hey thanks so much for being here Jeff. We really appreciate it. And Sora demoted deputy editor at the beginning but editor in chief Jeff Hartmann. Thank you when you get your next paycheck. Jeff Jeff Harbin. Everybody fantastic to have him in on the show that was great stuff love having Jeff and he he definitely brings a different perspective than I ever do. So we're GONNA have him in here because there's so much stuff going on to answer his question. One more thing about James Winston look. We don't think it's going to happen in. Crazier things have happened. I'd welcome here if it fit like if this was last year and there was a little more money and there was an opportunity. Yeah definitely bringing the Guy. Like Med perfect world. You'd love to have a bring a guy like that and and and have him sit for a couple of years kind of like a A gym it's a thing where you know. Former over number one overall pick. He comes in in his tenth year. It was a great organization in any any any helps He you know he continues winning for you like Like he did after Ken. Stabler retired so or traded so perfect road. It'd be great but I mean it. Just no way this is it's going to happen. It's not a problem at all. How many of us would have said no Tanto last year? A lot of probably what I mean right Kimmel I mean hindsight's twenty twenty would come on. We probably would have said no to that. You're going to say no to a lot of things but if you get a chance to get talent you do but I I just like I said. I just don't think it's going to be happening at all with that. Let's go to the live chat because we know what we do. Have a hundred and thirty five people in here Let's hear what you have to say Tony. Do you have any other thoughts on the moves? Or what moves you? Feel the probably going to be next outside anything that we've discussed. I'm very intrigued at what they do with. Mike Helton because I think that is a big domino That could fall in and change everything. Because he's a he's a valuable remember that secondary and if they don't have enough money to pay him if they decide that Kim Sutton is going to be their stock corner for twenty twenty. I mean that's that's a big decision for them. And that's that's a great comment because lost in the shuffle. Everything that we've talked about is the situation with Mike Helton. A lot of people would be would be devastated to see him go. I mean I I'm a big fan of Helton. I'M BIG FAN OF CAMP. Sutton it just at this point. It's something you've got to look at is. Where do you need to put the resources? Kevin Colbert. Thank you for being the live. Chat here wants to keep Hilton. So he saying yes. Donald No one asks this question bad. Who is the backup outside linebacker? Now the chick lows gone so to me. It's looking like You've got the two Toledo guys you've got Olea Olah identity. And you've got our skipper that are there and who knows who comes in next. I mean they're still something something's GonNa happen so you never know that Tape Boys A great contributor to our show US says Villanueva by that could be. That would be a surprise but my gosh lots of money comes off the books if somebody if they do make a move with big. Al So you never know there but there's a situation where you could possibly put szucs left tackle and keep it right tack on try to find a way to get a deal done with any you know. I mean if if that were to happen you know. Gosh I I'm not big on the Chew Cspan Wagon. I'm more of a Zach. Banner Guy Can really be wrong on that just I think that's a guy that that I'm really apprehensive to go ahead and throw a lot of resources. At szucs right now Snowman. Who's always contributing to the show in two dollars? Snowman. We appreciate it. Thank you very much. When will the steelers draft wide receiver? I think they're drafting one. This year I actually could see that happening. The second or third pick Which is would be their first or second. Pick this year but in the second or third round. It's a very deep wide receiver draft. I looked at it the other day I was looking at some names. And there's a lot of There's a lot of tall receivers a lot of fast receivers. Just in the top twenty so I I Compiled a list of twenty top wide. Receivers coming out on the draft 'em Pittsburgh could do well with any one of those guys I could actually see them are looking at least in the third round possibly in the second. Tony with this duprey news. Does this make wide receiver offensive line more valuable? Now when we're looking at the top pick in the college draft not necessarily because I think you could You know the fact that they've you so many of their resources on receivers in recent years you could probably maybe find one in the fourth round. You said it was a deep class. They might be able to find one there with bud if they can't get a long term deal down with him. I mean you know you might have to think about the future and maybe use that second round pick on an outside linebacker so I don't think it it really changes anything. I think they're still going to go. Especially since drafting in a second round. I think they're gonNA. They're gonNA really stick to their best player available mantra this year as opposed to other years where. They said that they really trapped for need. I'm just GonNa Laugh your because Isaac another great contributor to our show wants to say let's just offer Jalen Samuels up for Hopkins and he He threw in the. Ll that's that's really funny Yeah I don't know if the I really don't think that that's going to happen. Arizona has already with that Forty music group idea like this comment bad and Tony. I think our forty ninth pick should be Klay poll that's Chase Klay. Pull OUT OF NOTRE DAME. He takes care of two positions. He's a very big guy. That can play both tight end and wide receiver fighting Irish. That's that's a guy been looking at us. Well I really like a Chase Klay Pool Foretells not the only Guy Snowman agrees tape? Boys also says tight end. And so those are the uninspired says Chase pools well. So that's a guy that you should really really take a look at in one of the thing I like to do when these mock drafts. Come out I go and look these guys up right away if I'm not familiar with their names. And so if a mach comes out at somebody that that they're looking at and whoever's doing these mocks for a second round pick almost seem to Be More in touch with the needs. Not just the needs of the team but with the market out there. So that the Something you should really go ahead take a look at and Oh my gosh. It's just came across bleacher report. I am devastated. I am absolutely devastated. Case Keenum is coming to the AFC north and it's not Pittsburgh my friends case keenum is now signing a three year eighteen million dollar deal to be a Cleveland Brown according Schefter. No it doesn't make any sense. Why would he want to come here? Why we want to sign this backup. I mean obviously Baker Mayfield is the the future. They're and they'RE GONNA. They're gonNA you know. Continue to try to develop them for the next two or three years. Why would he wanted to come here? When you could probably go so many other places in start I just don't get that at all while you're listening to this PODCAST T. Mobile was busy building the largest five G. Network in America. Well into it. All during this one podcast. 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They were GONNA be able to sign him anyway at that at that price. I mean it would be. It would have to be half of that. Half of that kind of a deal half of that lucrative. I would say that's really interesting. Donald Nolan. I've just going to tell you I. They've been joking that I've had a crush on case keenum for a long time. I just think I think that case keenum was here last year. There you go that. They're they're going deep into the playoffs. That's my weight. I with defense a sailor. Yeah that's my point. He he started capable. So why would he to? I don't know maybe he's content with being a backup at this point of his career. I I I don't know I mean that's a good way to make a living eighteen million dollars to back up to be a backup quarterback. Wow so interesting there you go. I cannot believe it but we're talking about the steelers and I do not know if I agree with Jeff. I don't know if they're going to be signing anybody this week. They probably won't be. I think it's the second wave type situation but we've seen them do well in the second wave If you look back to two thousand Seventeen Tyson a Lulu was a second wave guy and I still think that Somebody mentioned earlier. I think it was Dennis. Sheridan mentioned that he could be a guy that you could cut and you possibly can but you you need a guy like that to with him being signed to you ease the transition and be in there and play well like he did for stuff onto it with Joe hargrave going because he He is inside and outside so I mean as far as the defensive line he could play on the outside of it. He could hear your so there. You go wow Dion Murray says ten million guaranteed. He's shaking his head. I am too. I mean I wasn't paying that kind of money for them but Their salary cap room. Yeah but it's what you do with it in at the end of the day. You're the Cleveland browns and UA. You haven't proven anything so there you go. We're going to look at the live chat for any last couple questions. And then we're GONNA get ready to wrap everything up I wanted answered job. Man's question because he has to twice about since they got rid of Houghton today. Sign Dion Kane. Yeah I mean why not? He's not GonNa it's not gonNa cost them a whole heck of a lot. I think they like his potential. I think we all like his potential. So I think you're going to bring him back for sure. You Know I. I absolutely love the I love the idea of having dion. Cain having him in their cheap being a A big guy that has a lot of potential and I love what Ben Rothlisberger could do with a guy like that Dave scofield throws in this And no way was I saying that you were going to cut him but I agree. He's playing better than a salary. And but we've got. Dave means that when he's throwing in all caps on way so you're listening in not watching on the live chat. You could see that he did go all caps on me on one word so I agree well and plus I mean it. He's practically a starter now with with our grave guns. You're awfully thin. You know on your defensive line if you get rid of him and Hargrave is also lease which is going to okay apparently i. I mentioned that it was Dennis. Who said a loose? Somebody put a Lulu. I thought it was you Dennis earlier in the show. I do apologize. I'm not sure what it was. I thought you typed away earlier so I will go ahead and apologize to you for that That's why should not be looking at the live chat there s rag says bugs will step up and I definitely agree. I I think that's the guy you look at stepping up and you keep a lou in there and you you bring in you you bring in somebody in the draft you in maybe your future guy that that he had looks like. Browns did signed Jack Conklin that we talked about earlier. North top is reporting that So with that. The browns are Looking for that Super Bowl March again like they won last year Super Bowl and and Dennis is saying he got a Lulu confused with Denny. No problem And then they're saying Mr Electric Football is safe. And that's being Switzer. Ninety Eight six seven x one hut so up Mr Electric football boy. I tell you what that's a guy that will fight you on twitter. It's somebody I've talked about him getting cut and he went in and had a passion than I tried to get him on the show by saying. Hey Yeah let's talk about twenty twenty come on our show on VPS's and he completely ignored me so Hey Ryan I would have given you. I would have given you a whole form with all of us here and We would have been pretty cold. He too so that's it. You would not been bombarded whatsoever. I would have been like Chris Farley. I you know the member that time because that was so awesome I would have been I would have been. I would have been awestruck Imam Ryan come on. Come on our next week. The invitations out. You don't want to go on you. Don't WanNa go on the Stat Geek. It's a great show but they have guessed all the time you wanna come on the Q. and A. With in the Orthodox show that is bad and tone-deaf as as we do that you don't WanNa you don't WanNa go on with Jefferson Lance Switzer. So sweat we got. We got your back here. Come up you know what you'd be to on any of those shows fantastic shows Big Shout out to Jeff Hartmann also You Know Lance. Who does a shows landed the TRIFECTA? This weekend doing a three over the weekend. Of course Dave Big Bro They do great stuff here but my goal is to get a steeler in some kind of form on the show. I don't care. I don't care if it's an unrestricted. She's being undrafted free agent that no one's heard of one of these days. We're getting a steeler around here. So there you go javed man says while since Jeff no longer the show. He doesn't have to rip on the sport of Lacrosse and he'd saved love to see the steelers. Lynn Joke. You I tell you what David Joke who could be available now. I mean he could be a cheaper option as well but the browns would never let them go to the steelers With that it was a busy day. I will tell you more things are coming. It's happening we're going to find out about filer Finney Hilton. We're going to find out where everything is going to go and we're going to try to put everything into place but the only place to to check it out is here because when it happens jeff and Dave are in pop of it. It is going on the website by the stoker dot com right away so You know for breaking news. It's there for commentary fun and Musings and Speculation everything it is going to be on there so New New our new articles are posting. You know ten times a day. Not even more at this time A lot of talented writers on there with me being at the bottom of the totem pole. But I have no problem saying that. Because that's how good they are seriously. They are that good. You could always read. The musings of Tony was well. I thank you all for taking the time to hang out with us today and we will be back with you next week to answer questions Tony. Do you have any last thoughts before we get head and wrap this up to answer Mike. Molly's question he asked. What are my thoughts on salary? Cap versus needs well salary cap. They're up against the CAP is always and they stole like Jeff said they have a lot of work due to get under the cap again so I think as far as free agency with their needs. It's going to be like Jeff said second third. Maybe fourth wave type players. That's that's the reality that you could find some bargains and that by doing it that way. Well we do have to throw this in because we gotta live chat and we don't want to We we don't want to go ahead and miss out on this. Thanks Paul. Bollock one ninety nine. So who's going to replace? Ramon foster you know I think at this point? You're look you gotta wait for those dominoes to fall to see what happens with filer and Finney. If Fini has resigned. It's going to be funny. If it's filer is resigned he moves over and you look at a guy like Szucs or Banner Zach Banner in that that spot because you have a guy that versatile like Matt filer from Bloomsburg to go ahead and move over Paul so that could be a possibility. Dennis Sheridan says you all say stay safe shelter in place until Ota's hey you know. I have no problem with that. Because the whole thing is we need to be safe and we all need to keep our bt SC family here intact so Hit liked Tele friend like Michael Matt Malley says and he always says that so I do appreciate you appreciate all of you the take time. Thanks for coming in. It was a live show. It feels really good and as we get ready to Go into the rest of this week. More Domino's you're gonNA fall so you keep it right here so to quote the Great Roddy Roddy Piper. When you think you've got all the answers Tony. We keep changing the question. You guys next week later. Guys thank you so much.

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