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Jiwan Brar & Paul Sangha | #007
"The reason why I say it was tough was because there were people that did understand that I look different and it was a bit difficult because people have their opinions on. They like like to voice those opinions. This is the real food real people podcasts. The families came from India to the US just a few decades ago and they've made a life for themselves farming raspberries and blueberries here in the Pacific northwest this week on the podcast. I talk with Jeevan Brar and Paul Sangha both young Berry farmers who grow up in my neighborhood doing the same farming that my family was doing but with an entirely different cultural backstory. Well at least in some ways as you'll hear in our conversation although our heritage is from opposite visit sides of the globe our immigrant families mind from the Netherlands. There's from India sheriff. So many things in common I'm dillon han-kook thanks for joining me. On this continuing continuing journey to hear the real personal stories of farmers in Washington state that we call the real food real people. podcast again with Jeevan Brar and Paul Sangha today. When did you first like think of yourself as a farmer? Have you always thought of yourself because you grew up like me with your dad. It had farming right right L.. Just down the road from you right. No I've I've always considered myself farmer definitely pry politically right but I was a farmer at like five year old for sure. Yeah just Because I was on you name the tractor after you name the piece of equipment I was on it of course just having fun at that time but still working. So no Bene- farmer my entire life been I've been involved in agriculture entire life and I think it had a had a big part in just kind of continuing on and through grade school and everything and going into everything just simply watching my dad and how big a part it was for him and you know it. It summed up being the foundation of our entire family and For me after Dodd. kind of later in went into retirement We do other things outside of farming now. But that's one thing we've never let go because it's just such a big part of the pillar that we stand on and and we'll help provide everything we do. The bene- farmer definitely entire life. What about you Jeevan? When did you start like thinking of yourself as that because you've kind of always been into it to write the same thing basically my entire life? grew up on a farm. You know anything could do help out hang out you know. I just wanted to be out there with my dad. And those are the biggest scenery of that connection with them and Just stay on and then now I I really got into it after after high school I got more and more involved into it and Up until now I consider myself more of a farmer now than it was so now you're going to school right I to continue in agriculture. Do even more yeah. That's right that's right so I'm going to school to get a degree and My goal is to become becoming agronomist. At Crop Advisor would be my goal. What about you Paul? What what's your what you do after high I mean we're we're I think same class like two thousand one graduate graduate high school at two thousand and two so two? So you're you're right up to you. What did what did you do after high school? Well I fell right right after high school. I continued education but I fell head first right into our family business. At that point we dad had started our. You're the first you know the well. Sorry not the first. But the first Indian American I guess East Indian Processing Plant raspberries and that quickly just involved me and my older sister really ladders into kind of understanding what the business behind agriculturist tras and we got a good understanding of that. You know we were at that point. Sitting on about dad was farming or we as a family farming close to two hundred fifty acres at thought. Time too you and so it was a big undertaking and I remember dot kind of told us all hands on decorate. Now 'cause we all need to be involved in this and we definitely were her and so I see I went head first into that and just never looked back and it just it developed into something bigger and bigger that kept growing and and I remember being you know even when I was twelve but definitely after high school and going to school and everything I remember sitting in conference rooms with with big buyers of big products. You know sitting one time with the guys that do Kellogg and you know as I do that in the breakfast cereal breakfast visceral guys and Kroger and these guys and now now you think of him and you think Oh. It's probably just a easy way to meet. But then you're driving hours and hours and sitting in a pickup truck and going to meet with them and it was It was a definite learning experience. What does it take a gro- amazing blueberry since you guys are really? I guess Stephen still some some raspberry so we could talk about raspberries too. But what what makes for incredible blueberries. I mean to take this one you want. I think I think has to do with our area where we live. Our environment takes our farmers including myself and welcome county farmers. Everyone's committed you know they're passionate and I feel like you know that that drive you know gives. Was this a better product overall I. I completely agree My my main focus to answer that question would just be the passion part. It takes passion if you're not passionate if there's something about taking a baby plant of anything and planting it in the ground and raising up being you know like a baby be of your own and having it producing getting excited about what it's producing in the quality that's coming out if you don't have that passion from within then you won't get the quality and it goes to a show about this area. The quality that comes Outta here is because of the passion that people have and again i. I get to visit a lot of different growers in a lot of different products. All Al- passionate about what they have you know the walk up and under fields and everything and they know every inch of their ground and why is going on with their ground in there taking care of their product you know of course. Everybody can Jeevan Scott a lot of wisdom. I actually called him. I called Jeevan myself and I've got questions on any sort of AH programs that we need to be applying But if if he didn't have the passion he wouldn't really be able to tell me and a lot of people can just give their local agronomist to call the know what to do and and put on and you show up once a week or once a month to do that but the guys that are there everyday which is what I see around here. That's what gets us a quality that we have even. How did you learn all all that stuff? Like because you're still in school to be an agronomist. But you're already doing a lot of this really so that that passion he's talking about right like that's been there since this day one. I'm just going to the farmer's my dad picking up on things he's doing picking up on things that we talked to our honest about you know and just being in it you know driving through a farm and a pickup a nice pickup truck. You know with the windows down is doing a lap around the farm. It's farming you got to the best thing for for a farm is a farmer's footsteps right until you get out there and you walk the farm and you experience thought that's the best way and and that's where that comes from right. That's what makes our berries so good you know and And for me right like I'm still. I'm a college student but you know just because I spend eight hours of the college it doesn't I mean I come home. I have to go walk around the farm. I can't just come home and start studying. You know that reminds me even back to high school and how You know summertime you guys all had the same experience that I did to growing up in this community and with family farms we all grew up on family berry farms like did like summertime is like. That's not the time to slow down or go on vacation. No no who goes as in specially in July. If you're in raspberries a little bit later and blueberries boy I don't you know thirty five years old. Never had a summer in those terms terms. I've never really had a summer. I wouldn't have it any other way. I it was so weird like I feel like elementary and middle school kind of confusing for me. It was like adhere. All my classmates housemates had come back. Oh I just got back from Hawaii or just got back from like Alaska fishing or something like that and I'm like you do use varies. Oh my gosh is every single day of enduring the season we're sixteen plus hours you know and it's not it doesn't just end when you start picking and turn picker offer the harvester turns off you. Just don't go home. I mean there's a lot that goes into the process of waking up the next morning and having everything ready and it's five am and then you're midnight for us especially for the anything we do at the plant. How anyone else? I know a lot of people around your run. Their plants they lived there. You know now in your sleeping on the couch there are sometimes doing a lot of those nights but it's part of I guess it's part of what it is it's part of the in DC and that's where again I say the word passionate passionate about it hard to do it. It's like it's like it's hard to like a picture like a billionaire farmer. You know what I mean and like some magazine because this this is like everybody is this. You're doing because you're passionate. That's the biggest driving factor. Did you ever stop and think is crazy. I wish I could go to Hawaii in the summertime. I need to do something different. I think every other day. Yeah thank you definitely think that you think Oh and had that comes with any job might sisters of moved on. And they've in. My older sister lives in Seattle. And she's be in between green L. A. and Seattle and she works the eighty fives and does really well for yourself. But she has the same thoughts but When we knew she grew up on a farm and she has a background so she has that work ethic where she sticks to it and we talk kind of like what you're mentioning now and we think like men do you? Do you think it'd be different if daddy how did just unlike an eight to five and then we'd just gone to school in donor eight to five and everything and was yeah but then I don't think we would have been happy at all and you know I'm talking to my wife now to my wife. Her background is any isn't anything in farming so she kinda learn on the fly when when we got married and she definitely understands to the the happiness and joy that it brings to do this you know. Of course you get to go to Hawaii during the wintertime you can go. I guess you have to fight. You know we only have to find selective areas that are warm in the winter. Because that's twenty seem to have exactly the happiness you find while you're out there is like being in Hawaii all itself you know when you're out there not everyday's all Hawaii sometimes. Yeah it's a little stressful to. Yeah you have your at times too so talk you guys are. What's the relation your cousin's cousin tip? Ah Talk about the family background. Because I'm thinking about this. You say you know a lot of this has to do with how you're raised and your dad and growing up around him. Same I'm with you Jeevan yes and not just your dad but your uncles and the larger family same with my background with my you know Dutch Heritage Wjr people coming here you folks also coming from India that goes back generations of farming right even back in the home country same with both my Dutch family. You wonder how much that is just in the blood definitely definitely You know we're both sons of immigrants and we can parents When Dad I came here dad got started Small little tiny raspberry form and soon after when JEEVAN is my mom's brothers son our related and Soon after when my Uncle Evens Dad came here and they. It was kind of a partnership without ever being an actual partnership. You know because what you do is you you work with family and you help family. And that's priority so culturally literally background in India. You know your proof and how you prove yourself there too is your land. How you work your land and how you provide for your family you know and you're an honest day's work way to sum it up and so that definitely traveled here with them and they knew what they want to do? They knew what they were. Good out they knew do that. They could form. They knew they could learn. And that's definitely what dad and our F- entire larger scale family did and they luckily there were or no iphones or ipads and things back. Then they didn't have time to let themselves get distracted with anything yet so they definitely did put their head down and just kept working working in grew from there by the family's been a big part as we're still to this point they've got guys are hundred acres you know at this point and we still. It's almost like a partnership without effort being on paper but you know for us. It's the family isn't just directly us. The family is everybody buddy and that includes even far away aunts and uncles. You know when they're here they're they're helping out or we're traveling other places to help them and make sure they succeed again and comes back from this area where we grew up. You know there's a mentality out here just like you're mentioning. You know completely different background back in the day. generations ago. But still we have that help each other mentality. Well if each other mentality or real farmers real family rate real family farmers What it made your family's decide to come here of all places they could have gone and why why into fruit farming raspberry and blueberry farming to I mean what? What was the background in India? What were if there's farming background your family? What kinds of things were they farming? They're they're are available for farming rice. Wheat warned you know potato lot of Tito but in India the scale isn't those big rate. There's more five ten reformers and that's big rate everything was done by hand You know you think we corn potatoes you think. Oh there's thousand acre farms out there but in India it's got five ten acre guys. You have the twenty Acre guys and then thirty Acre guys. There's not very many big farms out there but with the the equipment there is out there thirty four out there is pretty big. Yeah you know a lot of stuff to do by hand. Yeah probably yeah. I think when dad came here just before he came was the first time they bought a tractor only in here for thirty five plus years and they had just bought a tractor before he was leaving. Being then I think it was like in the entire village or villages where they live there and they have everything that was like the second tractor. Anyone had ever even bought there when you talk about hand Labor for everything that was tensely ham labor and they were doing the whole you know the Ad Omaha but the Chisel plows the plows were actually clearly on any of the balls or anything that they had and that's how they were ploughing. Yeah like a horse or a bowls usually back then or on a full-on on pulled. What are they gonNA like? It's like my grandpa like you know. His Dad passed news eight. You know my GRANDPA's born nineteen twenty five and You know he's been farming since you know basically eight years old and plowing when he was you know in teenage years you know he's telling me he's like you supply with a single bottom plow. You know plowing an acre of the single bottom clouds of two acres and having to walk eight acres up and down. That's a lot of ground you know. L. A. Lot of steps wrecked up a lot of stuff on his fitbit. I'm sure those people linked his iphone. Oetzi you instantly with those past generations and I think about back in my family too and some of the things that they did just to be able to succeed or they worked if that was tracked with it bit how bad it would put us to shame. Keys no kidding. I don't think we'd be doing anything compared to that. I don't think I walk in today. The reason why forget Dad's older brother was here in the US. And why come to America. I mean because you know it sounds cliche. Okay but it's the truth to this is the greatest country in the world. And we've been able we've been able to live it it in business agriculture any type of aspect as immigrants. And we've seen that that's true and that's what Dad Guy saw two. They saw an opportunity and they saw an opportunity and they came and worked hard and took advantage of that opportunity in lucky to be able to do that. was there some kind of connection though in this the region that brought them here specifically because you really could choose a lot of places to go to true true My Dad's older brother lived here. Okay he was here originally so he dad's older brother moved to the. US went to school here. Okay and schooling and then after school he stayed here and moved moved up to Canada live. There came back and started farming than on this side of the border and I think again that was probably just because the cost difference between Canada and then was still pretty prevalent then too so he started farming on this side and slowly my immune started having his family common. That's Dad's side to come to and they worked together for a little uh-huh dad bought his own ten acre when he started his own ten acres. How much does you talk about your family background? And your cultural background. How much does that play into your farming now quite a bit quite a bit? I mean you've mentioned a lot about the family stuff. I think that's a big part of it. Right is it is. Yeah family's definitely a huge part of it culturally. That's just what you know you. You Mind Your Business you do. What's right and you you work hard? And that's you think about community of a sense of community which relates to the sense of family. And you make sure that not only you are moving being up but the people around you are moving up as well and as a society. We're able to work together and those kind of teachings have kind of just always come down generational racially dad definitely passes on to us. And it's been a big part of what I've been able to grow up in Waukesha County. You're in Lyndon and go onto the school system in Linden. I saw it from everybody to you know I was. I think one of three Indian kids I grew up here and so would you already. My friends weren't Indian. And but so I got to have that same mentality from anyone. You know a lot of dairy farmers a Lotta Barry Farmers and even guys weren't we're wanting to come over to our dairy farms the very farms to hang out for the weekends they they didn't want it to sit at home inside Friday night. You wanted to come over to our place. It's almost like that. Farming connection is stronger longer than the heritage and culture and race. And all that stuff that you know is supposed to divide people and it's like no. It's the farming. That's it's all of that. That's definitely the glue. Oh yeah you know we come from so many different backgrounds. But what's the one thing we have in common. We love the dirt. We love the dirt. We work doc on you know. And that brings us all together before Jeevan you and I had talked a little about. What was that like growing up? But I probably even more for Paul. You know only three. You said there were only three Indian kids in school with you at that time. Three or four Yup and that community grown so much by the time you were in school. I mean there's a lot I mean there's maybe if teen twenty But but that's also like from Ninth Grade Twelfth Grade from freshman to senior year. But that's like maybe thirty kids. I want to say but the community is definitely been growing the the community and welcome county. It's definitely growing especially she and Linden it's growing and Bellingham but Before like when he went to school you know having few very few kids young. What was that like? I was challenging at times. It was you know I I had definitely had great times. I have great friends. Still good friends and a So I had a lot of support. I never really had to go through too much of a time where I had a really noticeably. No that I look different But the the reason why I say it was tough was because there were people that did understand that I look different And it was. It was a bit difficult because they have their opinions. You know I'll just leave it at that. People have their opinions on. They like to voice. Those opinions was hard to get through those But again I definitely say ninety ninety nine point nine percent of the community when I was going to school here in my high school days ninety nine point nine percent community was more understanding so they were always willing to stand up and you know understand and the glue we talked about just now the farming Lewis. What helped me without people knew? Do The you know we're not. We're not any different. Where here putting her head down doing the same work more so than me I got I had to see kind of go through those things And so I kind of was ready for it and I knew a little bit of what would come but I always kind of thought. Hey Dad looked a lot different than everybody and if God could do it then and I've got nothing to whine about you know and I need to be able to get through to your its challenges but this this place. This whole town city'll end in his WAUKESHA. County itself has come a long ways. I'm not time the I don't see anything like that anymore. I don't hear about anything. See anything like that anymore here. The reason I ask about school to is because that's when sometimes some of that stuff can be the worst. His kids are brutal. I mean they don't have filters they just say terrible things sometimes. Yeah Hey tell us when you throw a couple of reporters yourself you know everybody fits in be done at the riverport. Yeah River Brian. Lou gets even stronger you know what about you'd even honestly I can relate to everything he said It was you know this agreed community. We live in But yeah that glue and just bonding with everyone. Those Friday night. So Saturday nights you know after terrific ballgame That's when you know the real bonding half Andry and That just brought everyone closer and you know I got friends from school. Talk to now and yeah you know the big a role does faith play in what you guys do and how you approach farming and stuff like that you know you guys have both been active in temple pool and whatnot up for myself. A big role because our faith is based around a sense of community and that plays a big role in the farming coming community as well so it's easy to relate to. Our faith teaches does that you're nor more or no less than anybody else everybody's equal equal and You know you look look to help others as much as you're helping yourself and so when you take those principles and you apply them to something like farming coming in a we. We grow food. We gross stuff that people eat and it's needed for life you know. Technology can keep getting as crazy as it is at the end of the day. You still have to eat something and of course we have our staples in we have commodities and different things. But I like to think that people still want to the blueberries and raspberries strawberries and Marion creko blackberries. Everything so that helps with that helps you really wrap your head around why you're doing what you're doing my own kids. They love to eat any fruit out there. And you'll love to eat food and I see a lot of tours like one thing and I'm thankful to be a part of something like this but walk and Family Farmers Save family for me. They set up tours for kids. These kids go out and they get to see firsthand. You know what an and I'm not talking about the kids. Get to live on farms. I'm seeing kids that come out of the city's been never would have even understood what a Harvester restore is or we hear John Deere and we all we think green think green and we see that little year symbol right they. They're John Deere and they think of somebody somebody. They're trying to picture someone so eggs or something like that and so it's it's amazing and you know that that brings me back to how faith definitely puts into that because it's a faith and people working together And it it's a big part of it and I think there's a certain I mean whether it's your faith as background or mind. There's a certain teaching within both of those traditions about valuing the earth and where we come from and what we eat and respecting being in stewarding that I guess yeah that's huge Being a farmer being passionate about what we do the stewardship of the land is huge. wjr because that's where we raise crops so if you don't take care of that ground we're not gonNa have a good crop you know so being sustainable and taking care of the ground is GonNa let us continue to do what we do know. God gave us a beautiful earth breath and then he gave us the ability to cultivate ourselves on it and so I'm trying to kind of draw correlation but what you're just saying it's it's our responsibility on how we treat it and what we do and I do hear a lot about and I see a lot about I'll sometimes times. Farmers are being blamed for a lot of different things that maybe are hurting the earth and that couldn't be further from the truth. I mean simple it simply please. I mean we eat the same product that we grow raw even at some point and I don't tend to think that form farmers are that Tom so that it's a simply put as what we do you know between our irritations and our programs that we have Alvin fields no matter what part industry you're in if if the land if you don't treat the land good the land won't treat you good and if you're not being I mean that's our bread and butter so if it's if you're not treating awhile and it's not treating you will then you're not going to survive so we haven't really no other choice you know just to put in basic terms we have no oh troy's but to keep things at high quality you know and gets bit irritating sometimes try to explain that to everybody say guys there's we just don't even in have different choice we have to treat it right you know we're not we're not doing anything to harm stuff here and I think people kind of get carried away with what they assume without really going yeah I I feel for sure from a lot of conversations I've had with people who it's like wow like some of the things that you're accusing me re people all I know of I don't think any of us have ever even thought of doing that's awful like what now Talking about the growing community of whom job folk here and the temple. I was at VI- sake celebration recently and that was so cool to see just how huge that community is. And I'm thinking about like back to that question. Why here because I think about my community this community is now known that we have this huge Dutch population? Yeah there's people from all different backgrounds but a ton of Dutch people here and a ton of Indian people here and why is it an and for the Dutch community. The I think a lot of those people ended up here because the climate was so similar to back home in in Holland. But that's not true for your community and yet it continues to grow so much here. What what is the reason for your community to grow so much because I think it's so cool and it's fascinating to see why some why people and large large groups of people together choose a place to kind of gather around? I feel it's like you're saying the Dutch communities area big here and Indian communities. He's very big Indian people I got here. You know I feel like there's there's a lot of Indian people on the side of the line and Canada. Yeah and for some family. They want to be closer to their family. Yeah so a lot of people from California Seattle further down south or even that are coming here from India. Want to move here because a lot of their families families in Canada. You know. Yeah they don't live in Canada but they live in Linden which is only five minutes away from Canada so I feel like that's one reason why there's a lot of Indian in folk here. Yeah I just think about like my ancestors being Dutch okay. They they're used to this kind of weather but folks coming from India could see would come here and say this weather sucks it rains. I get here. Gosh what is this like. Would you want to live here. This is the Pacific northwest and itself is Kind Hannah. One of the in this corner appears kind of one of the lost areas where you really get to a breath of fresh air. You know I know all deliver kind of probably understand what I'm saying when I say that is the greenery the the soils year water here the quality of life here and those things Tho those are the draws to this area and it it shows just from even Seattle people moving from Seattle up north to hear hopefully of what they're looking for for So you can definitely look at a place like India and places like Ob- in India where you know it's it's heavily populated on unground is scarce and water is hard to find. Yeah and here you can come here and you can really do the same type of work and put the same value into work and get good results in a better community altogether so I think all those combinations really come together and make people think he was and it helps. Am this close to Canada and I'm only a few hours outside of a big city if I need to go to Seattle for any reason or an airport if I need to fly out anywhere so it's just a great place you've got coast and you've got mountain it's mountainous areas so you get the best of everything over here and and more and more people keep finding out about that and it kind of makes you want to say Yeah No. It's actually terrible here. Bring a fire. We sit right in it. Oh yeah yeah earthquakes. All around rains all the time. Don't don't move here it is it's growing. It's early on. What do you think the future is for farming and for you guys? is especially blueberries raspberries and stuff small fruits and more and more people are getting into this whole thing and they went to know where their food comes from and they're trying different staff isn't is it all about food. And how much do you think about that in people's eating habits and what people are into as far as food when you think about the future of what what you're producing. I kind of feel like it's almost going to be back to the future type thing you know. It's we early on. It was kind of a lot of small farms with not fruit stands or they were take fruit to the market and it was a real organic feel to somebody being able to come by fruit that they know that. Hey you just pick this. This is fresh coming off your field. I see a lot of that kind of coming back. Not necessarily the exact same way a lot more advanced in modernized type of that But I see I see a lot of farmers starting to probably get into seeing their product. Travel down the food chain line further further more than just hey harvest in my crew and here you go and I'm I'm just GonNa sit back and wait for my pain payment to come in the mail you know. That's the way it was in the old days to right right like your family got into processing about the same time as minded right at least have a hand in that next step rather than just picking the berries taken taking them to the dock at the cannery and they go from there yeah. I don't know what what's grading now. I don't even understand that and now now people are getting more and more knowledge college about what this is so I see if you look at the and then you look at again to bring up Seattle. The closest city anyone living in Seattle has grown up there and doesn't understand the farming arming. But they know that eating fruits is good for me fruits and vegetables and eating food like that is going to be better for me in the long run they will make the trip down or or up to see. Where's this coming from? And I you know we've been watching so many years such a big growth in something like that and People WanNa know even if you go to Costco now where was this from. I WanNa know what the history of this pack of fruit is and. I only think that's going to grow. More and more people want more and more knowledge about where their fruits coming coming from. Where your food's coming from and so for farmers here the growth of it I think farming is going to become bigger and bigger here for family? Farms You know I think commercially personally. People that are in vast large commercial business for me you know where big corporation shows up and they own thousand acres. They'll always do well in business. But locally here the family farms that have been sustaining for so long and it continued to keep doing well. Because they're going to be able to control the new generation of what they want in the late. That foodie you're talking about. If you like consumers he won't that connection connection and an evil in to sustain that connection. That's that's how it's like row because all wanna come down and be like. Hey where is this coming from. WHO's the farmer that grew this rate? They want that connection or that package. You're saying that they're going to buy a fruit. They WANNA see. Where's it from? WHO's ago or? How can I connect to this package of fruit? You know it's good for them but they won't have that connection you talk about that. Favoring more focused back on the smaller family farm kind of idea we hear a lot about the pressures of the economics of that and how you need a certain size just to be able to survive in this day and age. How how's that GONNA balance out? Yeah so Asterik to everything. I just said right there if it's Everybody wants to know where their food's coming from as long as they can afford to even eat it and now that directly falls on on our industry fruit industry route is something that everybody wants to Nas not necessarily to what we know we always want is our potatoes potatoes and the things that we know are going to be staples or something. Blueberries just aren't staples and so Ford Ability. The economics of it is a huge huge huge thing. It's getting really tight for a lot of family. Farmers not only pricing structure and everything in the industry changing in itself and that's because the demands are changing by the public general public consumer but even regulations regulations. Now are you're pushing US far into places where if you own fifty acres you really only farming thirty five of them at this point you know the way you need to be and and because say you've got to we've got a creek on one side and you'll there's more people watching US watch that creek than there are doing anything else you know and you know our property pretty again. We happen to have a a section where the government's got some tower that they're using their local government so there has to be a radius around that to allow access and everything. And so those are those aren't even those who fall into regulation theat- then it's our food. Safety are labor laws everything. That's it's just coming down on the small farmer and soon enough you know. Fifty Acre guy is now back in the day used to be the five tanker guy. That's where we're headed. We're the small-farm. Today we own fifty acres. We farm only fifty acres and we are the small farm out here. You know if someone hears you guys. We're from two fifty to fifty years and what's more like feels like from two to fifty two maybe fifteen and if we weren't doing anything else with it I mean it wouldn't be much watch but there's there's big changes coming up front and economically if the if the prices don't go up Unfortunately we have to rely on politics politics for a big part of that but if if it doesn't change that's going to lose a lot of family farms out here if that landscape doesn't change inch you touched on labor that's a big one especially in the world of fruit. I was that been for you guys. Are you able to get enough labor. I've heard from a lot of farmers who can't can't get enough people to come. Do you joking about harvest season and being you know high school kids will not very many high school kids do that anymore. WHO's GonNa come and help hopeless bring these crops in is a big question has been an issue for you guys? I'm for us. We haven't had a she with Labor. Such a big family. Yeah I uh-huh that helps a lot but I definitely see that becoming an issue as we continue to grow and get bigger families get bigger but you know the demand relievers also going to get more and more and I feel the other farms in our community after maybe outsource labor from other countries. And that's going to help with A labor demand that we're going to have here in the next maybe ten fifteen years like you're saying like in order to sustain it you gotta keep getting bigger and bigger rate and when you get bigger and bigger you're gonNA need more and more Lieber and there's just not enough leaper here. Labor's huge I think Labor is the forefront of what the main issues are that people for having to deal with. We've got again going back to our place got fifty acres so affordability. You know you really have to watch what you're doing on how much you're paying minimum. Wage just went to thirteen now here. Thirteen fifty thirteen fifty. And so if you're paying thirteen fifty and you usually having to pay more you know because you're really trying to entice somebody to come and it's it's hard to get somebody to work that many hours and our something we didn't even use to do in the past it was even existed in farming is like a double shifter after night shift and day shift and those didn't exist back in the day. You did the day and you did the night shift you know and Though when all those expenses are then leading you you into okay. Well let's let's think to the future and let's think mechanical harvesting you know let let's get more robots involved in that's what's GonNa make it cheaper and that's true in the the long run it is but what does that cost. How much of what you're doing to give up so you start looking down the ladder of economically and where this leads you you too? You know if D. acres have to be one hundred now be able to push those costs down and deflate those costs even more and not everybody's being able to sustain that on the other the end you're you're having to afford to do all these things on the other end. We're still getting this year. We might barely even get on product fifty cents you know and end. You're thinking bacteria. Will it used to be fifty cents before too and I know pennies carry or less value than they did then so each penny matters a lot more now than it did then to not that it didn't then but just a lot harder now and so not enough. People are happy to eat. BLUEBERRIES that higher expense raspberries or anything but but They're definitely well. They cost a lot more now in the store than they did. They do back they do but I don't think the translation definitely comes down to the farmer. We still see some of those field. Price numbers offers. That are the same numbers as when you and I were a kid. That's right when we were both in high school and almost think most less even in some places farmers armor they always write it off to. Hey it always ride that wave. You know you've got the good five and the bad five years the good two years and the bad five years. But I don't know I think it's kind of if if you watch the graph. The line doesn't really ever peak up to where it used anymore. You know Labor Labor if you draw back and you really think hard about it and you kind of travel the tunnel you relate it all back to what's it costing and it just costs so much more now and we need the labor force here a lot more labor force here to help sustain what. We're doing that too and it's not like any college kidder. High School kid wants to be on on out on a farm. You know baking dirt. Weeding walking rose pruning. I feel wires sitting up fires rain. Or if it's hot out it's too hot or if it's cold out you know I feel like people want to be more inside working in kind of a you know in a room where it's warm outside. There's Mother Nature there's no there's turn the heat up or get to the easy on rate. There's a tree lunchtime. WanNa sit under his. You know that's very true but again. There's you know if anybody that's considering to anyone that's considering getting into farming. They what they should do first is go and work you know and really understand putting the wires up like you mentioned or any any of the things being on harvest or for twelve hours. Go experience that and if you feel like there there is going to be this. The refreshing feeling you get from doing that. And that's what's going to make you decide whether this is what you WanNa do or not. You know every time I do it it. There's something refreshing about and now I get to to watch it. I've got two daughters and I get to watch it in them. They're still they're having fun like I used to own can really see them up on the Harvester of course you know. But when when they are they're they're they're loving life you know and those are the things that those are the things that I'm fearful that won't stick around very long but I really hope they they do. I'm I'm happy that played organizations like save family farming Walker. Family farmers are doing everything they can to make sure those stay. Those are big time. It means a lot more. It's like You know they're my nieces rate so when I see them out in. The farm at Lake reminds me I was like. Oh that was me right. So you know one of the kids and like they're GONNA be up on harvests relate to look into the future and then you also think okay wait a minute. Very prices are coming down rate will what's going to happen like my ah are as far as farming and be around or is it. Not You know what I mean like like you start thinking rate then you never know what the future holds so now you stick it one harvest at a time and see you hop excellent thank you guys so much for opening up and just talking about life and farming and all the stuff that you guys put into it. I think it's it's really cool to hear the real stories. Ethylene definitely thank you for having us and letting those kind of at least share our experiences a little bit. This is the real food real people. podcast these are the stories of the people who grow your food. It was so much fun for me to get to know Jeevan Paul a bit better since we've seen each other across the fence in passing on the road so many times but hadn't actually had the chance to sit down on and really connect on a deeper personal level and that's what we WANNA keep doing here on the real food real people podcast re link all of us around this region with the people behind our food. Thank you so much for coming along for the ride for subscribing to the podcast on Google. PODCASTS stitcher spotify apple podcasts or wherever your favorite outlet is for visiting our website at real food. Real people dot org an for following us on instagram twitter and facebook. It may not seem like a big thing but it helps us a lot to continue the mission of real food real people when you connect with us in those ways will see you again here next week as their journey continues. WHO's the real food real? 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Power of the choices we make
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Chahun Bas Itna. Mridula. IINK Podcasts. Episode 24
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Vipin Khandelwal . Year Book Edition .Shradha Chaturvedi . Episode 50
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Son Of The Mask - Caravan Of Garbage
"This podcast is part of the planet broadcasting network visit planet broadcasting dot com for more podcasts. From our great night's mason you son of the mask. We're back to talking about some of the ma. I love it so last week. We talked about the moscow movie. I do not like him. Probably received a lot of flack fall and the movie that you thought was not without its charm and haughtiness. Speaking of movie that is is not with its chom but still a little bit of hornets. Plenty of warning to sell. Be honest in a way folks. If you're looking for movie that features a series of not shots. A veritable torrent of peace. You're for trade with sound of the mosque movie. Which i not sane and boy changed my view on things. I don't know yeah. It's definitely altered. Some of my. Brian chemistry. I'll leave a like if you could because we are talking about of course that the the much anticipated but also by the time this kind of winning why who goes by the time this went into production and more information came out and formation. Came out about it. Nobody was interested in now. The kind of jeevan carey modest jim carey sequel a coupla. Maybe evan almighty wasn't at this point at various but famously jim carey said look not coming back for this after iceland. Sure to he was like. I don't wanna do anymore sequels. That has obviously changed since then. So you know off the back of that we get a great cost of bob hoskins. I mentor at tiny little odin. But i wrote tony little odin which is fine. That's fallen alan cumming. Who i genuinely think is pretty good in this hoskins in these odin is he probably should look the cows. Before we started this story about steven reich kalpana some names in but some people you thought maybe from the australian Teen drama series. Konso actually turned out that were from the australian tv drama series. Headstart one of the stars of the wannabes. Not traffic is saying look from high. Love drastic rights somebody. He's in a decent movie on a marvel movie. Not many people get that that's right. And he's the thing when when this movie kennedy mentioned the the you know the loss of goodwill from the previous movie. I think the reason i didn't go to see this at the cinemas having really enjoyed the last one was because it was like they weren't using by maybe etc and having watched this. I do respect what this movie was trying to do. Which is mike buck by riding on the coattails of a better movie the other thing that idea respect that it was trying to do was it was trying to do like a wylie. Coyote versus body live action. The problem with this movie takes almost an hour to get to that. And there is so much fila in at the and it's just we you know. Obviously the son of the mosque we have to get another mosk. A a big head is yard was originally called and jamie kennedy is not as good. He's not and i don't want to talk about the casting of him in particular but yeah that element of the baby versus the dog. It's a good idea genuinely. And i think it's one of those things where they've done it in like a cats and dogs movie. Look who's talking. And whatever like it's a tried and true thing that if you did this hyper amplified kind of universe then yet. This could work but like you said it's not enough of vats even the special effects of the time. We'll pretty pretty good and you know if they've done an hour of just narrow effect shots of of maniacal devil baby fighting a maniacal devil dog happy with that but yeah the the. It's it's a combination of jim carey. Obviously the voice. That jamie kennedy uses for the sat feels like old elvis yet and you know what it felt like to me. You're that really toll guy who gets out of the tiny kind the simpsons and he was like. This was the most expensive car rocket of what i'm like. Hello everybody i'm here at the you wonder if it's all well and there's a potty goodness the one thing that my feeling is maybe that either one of two things either he didn't wanna do maniacal. Jim carrey You can't you should. Yeah yeah but also. I wonder if it's a. It could also be the fact that the mosque like the physical mosque was a lot cheaper and if he did attempt some like big expressions like the mosque would literally just tear off his face. Yeah like dunstan moat too hot in this movie about a character. Who is you know has an absolute rabbis. Don't do that because it will. It will terrible. We've only got. We've only got the money for one. That's really interesting. Because i think we have one of the things that this movie lacks is movement and physicality of jim carrey. Because this has the dance numbers here. It's not even as the worst danone but it's not even close so far an again. I'm not a fan of the first movie. The physicality of jim carey and the dancing and the stunt people they get into kind of feel in The most spinney spinney styling whatever that will work. But he's just got this giant fucking terrifying grin on the entire time and yeah. I didn't occur to me but it doesn't end the hey doesn't help just kind of locked into his fucking head. As horrible so the plot of this one basically is that there is a cop bowl. yep One is a regular normal human woman and one is a Playing a game boy advance in the common child. Yes and the wife wants a wants a baby and she shouldn't with this man again. he's not driving the he's sitting in the passenger seat just just closed face right. Get some glasses anyway He needs to go. 'cause party yeah So he finds a mosque. Yup it puts on the mask becomes the mosque And then Later that evening yum yum fills his wife with mosque. Sperm is what happened. Yeah that's a hall sacred. It's a it's a. It's a nightmare of film. And it's just the dislike saying that imagery and also the fact that like he comes back in the lights go off and she doesn't recognize that he's shines into the mosque. But what you didn't. You didn't notice screaming spinning dick coming out your what would have been going on there. But i want to say he all. He also works at like an animation company. He's he's he's in the mascot role but he wants to become one of the one of the real big time animators So he has to impress at the office party or Which is the worst. It's it's the worst office party. Yeah it's it's it's i mean it wasn't it wasn't good and he didn't fix it. Think wrap up there and he does. What consider to be. Maybe the christmas musical number in movie history. But it's also not even that much better than what anybody else was doing like. Hey scott magical palace. Yeah and he can do anything. But he's like performance is not much worse than it's it's not really any better than anybody else was doing. It's really not and you'd be like this guy sucks and he's wearing a weird mas. The incident proved the non. They also know who he is because one of the big things about the first movies. It's like who. is this. The great mosque like rubber banding around. But they're like twelve at the last night and it's like i can't tell who that is like i know that jamie kennedy but i still can't that it's very bizarre but this is this is the line of thinking for casting because i initially went jack black. Who turned it down. Which quite frankly. I think could do something school of raucous definitely with this. Yeah but also good work. Didn't do it i. This was pointed out. I saw a tweet about this. That suggested that Jack black is the only person you could see him in any situation. It wouldn't surprise you. So yeah i'd say. I definitely watch him to moscow cycle. He'll be it'd be great in that you do a kill a musical number as well. Yeah mal and winds was considered along with matthew. Lillard and ryan reynolds. Sober jamie kennedy. He was he was there. Well he kind of he was big off Romeo and juliet. He was seen as well. It will you all said jamie kennedy experiment so off the back of this like he wasn't sure whether he was gonna do any tells a story on these youtube channel. How he met with jim carrying is like. I'm thinking about doing this. But you know. I kind of its role that you to con. And i won't do it if you don't do it. Carrey was like no. You should do it. Go have fun with it so anyway jim carey unreality prank show. I trick you into doing this movie. It was it was actually offered one million carried to an embarrassing situation. Here's initially one million dollars for the first movie. Five for the second and then ten for the third well. He wasn't going to do it then. They doubled the offer because they really went all out on this the first twenty five million dollar movie. This was an eighty four to one hundred million dollar movies. Say they went all. Add in this budget phil ministre yeah. That's the other thing. Yeah and speaking of it's funny. You should say that because jamie kennedy reportedly hated his time in sydney filming the movie hardly anyone recognized him in public. I'm day by the way and he was repeatedly turned down by local women. Who had no idea who he was. Now i've done a bit of digging on this so we'll come back so we'll come back to some Stuff off at the end. Because i'm like this might be just one of those things it's just throwing up while local tabloid pieces sheet astray of which there are several but anyway we'll come back to into it anyway Jamie kennedy is what produces a son not having a nightmare about his wife just farming out a hundred by what traumatic experiences. This man has live friday cities. Like if i get wife pregnant. You'll have one hundred band playa by and there's also you'll notice how frank show also. There's this new rules of this universe. What which big the mosque. I guess just work to the data. Could you say the dog. Because i lost i don't care there's mosques sperm mentioned and also i feel like if you were capable of being fertile in whilst wearing the mosque they'd be a million of these kids they'd be everywhere because you're saying that the mosque amplifies your natural tendencies in most people's natural tendencies are super mahoney. Apparently at least at least in this universe the other thing. That's not as good in. This movie is the dog. Otis throw shade on. Probably dead dog milo and otis that i only just now they are. Yeah but i feel like she's like captain yes yet. Maybe because this one kind of it balances and stuff balances stuff and like place hockey. But there's no subtlety to it. Jonah major i feel like the dog acting and we talked about in the las wanted acting reacting in hawaii. Yeah he's doing like little you know little tons of the heads nods and things like that that works also in this movie. It's two dogs dogs doing the job of one dog. Well so you know you know. So in this instance. I'm glad they're both dead. Why couple of you've been critical of dog act. They're doing their best for little traits decided to mount. That's what i'm doing here. Just my best little traits. What do you think of the bible though. I fucking hate that baby. What a nightmare. That baby has three dick's because there's a moment where it's pissing the torrents of that. It's like a giant like jet. I've written a note here that says the baby is smart enough to fake his own death in an explosion and you've got to respect at one point. He does ivory if it was a normal baby. Jamie kennedy would have killed it with electric city because he tries to feed it. A shouted light glory. I have a note here that says. Hey jamie kennedy may be don't gloss. You'll baby so. I don't know if that's for the character actor. I don't know but even if that be wasn't filled with mosques spur more however it was my cue that yeah just like you said that idea of a jealous mutley esque dog going up against a baby. That's like classic warner brothers. Whatever young. you're i know these not wanna brothers era kind of stuff and then instead of getting that we get stuff where jamie kennedy wife on the arrives harm and he beats her up and it's not like a trick. It's not lucky who by the way he's looking for. The sons of the ma alad coming is lucky. He's pretty good despite the hair inexplicable american accent that i think he's doing brightness. But then look to jamie. Kennedy's credit as well when he went into this to where the mosque once and it wasn't supposed to be his movie he was supposed to be the straight man And i think maybe they went. Just kind of improv. On the day because your comedic actor who just kind of what we get. And because also owns on set on any given day There's really nothing is there. Because it's mostly cj so that would have been like it would have been sitting around like a pretty quiet nondescript set. And i didn't need basement. Exactly and i would have just been like jamie kennedy just mug for the camera. Do some silly stan. We'll see if we can integrated into the thing so in a way it's not his fault. Yeah well that's the thing. So yeah. I think re-stripe man works but also that's not really to me who he is automation. Is this kind of larger than life. Character actor on stuff he's always doing pranks and we was doing Until jim carrey's you know he's putting on prosthetics and doing stuff and voices but here it's like hello. I'm ready food dance. A he'll look at me. Oh now what. Kind of wigan. By where now. What do you think that. The strains of the cuban peter dot remind people of a better movie and you'll bad movie just to clarify. I don't think the moscow one is a good movie. I think it is a good movie. It also adds. There's a final showdown to flat low And it's like it's a boxing match and also leads into like a cartoon off and again. I like that idea of two characters with the infinite power of the mosque going head to head but it's it's nothing but that idea there is a classic line they where jamie kennedy does site a lucky. You can't find me if you locked in a trunk that classic expression odd fight me. That's classic jamie kennedy better delayed insane in this guy saw anti guy because the even if you said no i would have just read this myself lighter just kind of you know a clip of me saying yes lighter. I never would yes. I love son of the mask. Say i would been missed a sunday movie coming prank. Show this is jamie kennedy. We did the same way and went to a pet shop to make a special potion allen. Bang jamie kennedy's characters nine now allenby alad cubby. Okay great and i play the jamaican woman always in makeup for like five hours to become a three hundred pound jamaican woman and allen said. I need a parrot beak. And i'd be like what you need a beakful. That's ver- that that's not right. You need to buy the whole bed. It was a lot of funny stuff unfortunately got cut because of the blackface unimagined so yeah. Yeah and they're still they'll sutan snake it into this dying like you guys. Just get it again. It's actually handsome. Culture is a white chicks was fact. That bounces that balances everything. So yeah they got anymore which you might like. And then launched into my expose is just Just on the floor in the living room in the middle of the night watching continents. And i'm assuming that jamie kennedy put the baby to bed and the and the kid got out of the crib on his own using his moss house. But i also can't rule out that he just left the baby to fend for itself just a night possible. Because he wanted to play. Gameboy advance magazine. Danske is in this movie. Turns into a big nice woman. Stri strike in comedy legend disadvantage yellowstone is the wife of the family and babe and babe through pig in the city. That's right for a minute. The don't disagree. Yeah did do do do do do ding ding ding ding ding. Oh my goodness. You know what that noise means. It's the new. Podcast alert ws binge. The fast saga is taking you through all the fast and furious films a quarter mile at a time with the family of stars who brought them to life the podcast just launched and the first episode hits the ground running with vin diesel himself. The podcasts gives fans an indepth. Look at the making of the ride or die franchise to exclusive interviews with the whole foster family from michelle rodriguez and ludicrous to john. Cena and of course dominic teredo himself vin diesel head on over to aws binge the fast saga and be sure to subscribe. So you don't miss an episode opened the shark due to do on and that's about it. I did have no from. It says this is an actual monster and should be put down. You can put that anywhere. I guess of the video on his time filming in australia. Jamie kennedy spoke to a number of news outlets to Discounted just kind spin his wheels and talk about like they've been the mask john astray in youth recovery. No he didn't did he talked chase. He didn't even talk to. Richard wilkins reputable news outlets left. Then jay leno for one. Okay you said I loved gold coast. I love brisbane. I love melbourne. No arguments them right old coast but all right some fumes. Coming that mosque and automated. Everybody does better yet. But he he said. Sidney thinks it's paris but it's really nebraska but he told canada's toronto star and he said first of all clubs close to i am. That's too early. I disagree. That's kind of insane. But i'm not gonna club now like affects me at all but that is inside second of all people drink. Excessive amounts of alcohol to the point of being blue in the face three the guy shave their chests and are all pumped up who shaves their chest. it's not a service orientated. Country fifteen dollars an hour for a whiter. The guy's not going to want to get you the bread because he's like a making more than you. in america. we tip. But i tipped everyone and they were freaked out. I mean it's called a livable wage but fuck what lots of unpack impact. But let's just leave it to slip to hang in there you can print this. I don't care. He said to what outlet all this more cindy acts like. It's not impressed by celebrity. Yes they are. That's the funny thing. London is not impressed by celebrity. They don't care. Sydney acts like it isn't but it is and it goes out of its way to say if you But then some of the mosque costa traylor howard who people might know also from me myself and irene into guys and a girl shows that such says. This could have been kennedy's problem. He did not get recognized. I think he was so used. The ladies recognizing him. I think it had a little bit to do with it. So yeah so. We didn't get the jamie kennedy experiment here. The only thing. I know of that show in australia. Was i saw an interview on oprah where he was talking about and he's like doing situations and i was like that's very funny and that's that's my that's my jamie kennedy experiments it'll while you're successful experiments that may result light entertainment regard that being said he's currently retelling the entire story of how this movie came debate in multiple parts on his youtube channel and he hasn't gotten to this part about sydney at the time recording this but he will so he's going to tell his version of how many women turned him down. If you i if you're so inclined to go over there and check it out. Because i they will bay if your if you're from if from sydney ladies that tend to damn email in something the comments we love to hear it leave whatever line he gave to you in the comments You wanna run cup. yes for those who are unfamiliar. Rank was it was a person who won the competition through nintendo pal too in the mosque to right and because that movie was on hold. It didn't end up happening. So you get a bunch of prizes and etc so this lot to the voice of britain's space yeah the film is technically on hold so rank could have chosen the role of money. This is a bit of a rate cap and merchandise rank. Who was twelve of the. Tom chose the money and received five thousand dollars. A film crew jacket which he liked to lost update and several superintendent video games including pilot wing sixty full on nintendo sixty four. Somebody's the edit. This this this whole situation sounds very fishy. I'm pretty sure they just killed him. Actually we tell the press they do. They they're pushing him into grade. They're like what should we tell him. We got to tell pilots. Sixty four the souvenirs He later claimed that it was absolutely the right cool. And he's right. It was the right call but maybe he could have gone to sydney. Also got down in nba's so knows you can live that hollywood lifestyle or he's gonna cut jamie kennedy's lunch every night. The rungs just cutting through my rides tonight around control. Maybe maybe the wrong would on the need to be a slightly better dancer and dwell. Ride the automate entirely possible. He could bay anyways. It's one of those desperadoes. He's the rock. My staff dated a midnight. He's dead he's dead. Yeah so this movie made fifty nine million dollars it was. It was a massive bomb critical. Commercial panning everybody heights this movie. It's it just thought it was pretty good just getting. It's an interesting oddity. Though i feel right i can see all the lines of thinking like i can see why you would get jamie kennedy. I could see why he put the money into it. I can see the special effects. I can see certain ideas thinking that this would work. Yeah but crap kerry jim carrey. Though i taste this last week he might be open to a sequel. And we know this of course because since the nineties he has done a sequel to dumb and dumber. He wasn't in the prequel And east of course doing sonic to why not but he's to dot com in twenty twenty and he said it depends on filmmaker. Really don't just wanna do it to do it. But i would only do it if it was some crazy. Visionary filmmaker shaw. Darren aronovski the skewered you. Would you bloody would Father also this be the son of the mosque. We deserve right on my goodness anyways. This been the mask one and the mask to i. If we get a mosque three we'll come back to the movies. i perfect. that's fine. Yeah man what a time though and he would care the garbage. You might be like. I love it when you guys talk about movies. And i've never bothered to watch people love that night. It doesn't reflect in the view. Camp those those few people that do watch the in lava exactly so if you do the head over to big sandwich dot co every one of these goes up early ben gets the editor like he jams and i say thank you very much and i put it up there. And he goes up. And i'm like i don't think that that's that's been caught osama pham band. I say to him but also there's a bunch of other stuff there if you wanna sign up including early podcast including movie countries. Just a bunch of stuff going on there including nearly boost about podcasts of weekly planet. Which comes out monday which is going to be coming out sunday. There you go. Thanks for watching this. I didn't say labor like so live like but you're not here you've already gone. That's like a fault son of the mosque. You know what i mean. Yeah you sound of the mosques. That'll that'll mike paypal switch off. All right grab edgy. i'm you guys. We'll see you bye did i say. Look karma i'll say. I'll put it up nice. Now it's going to be hundreds of leaves alike upside yeah. Hey every like attorneys-general leaves ally leads the like. I think i forgot decide. Say this like this is from light but now it's in here. It's it's fine it's more for it's just do it. Fuck just do it. 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Toxic Nail Polish, Dangerous Dip Manicures and Why You Need to Care
"I feel like my nails at some point are just gonNA fall off. It's going to be like something right out of I don't know what said Zombie walking dead. Personally I feel feel like you're going to cleanse your in a beautiful ends and you don't even realize it you know you stopped with the lashes. Yeah we moved to the much less harsh hair dye due to other things You're now to tip into the nails and GonNa maybe dial that back possibly even if you dial it back every other time it would be helpful. It's like okay. Don't smoke a pack a day smoker. A half a pack a day Dialing it all back. You are in a beauty cleansing. Do not realize that is the worst advice ever heard but I love view. Because it's how we do yes like this. Don't docks of cookies. Just eat half the box on that note everybody. Hey everyone I'm amber and I'm Ryan and this is art beauty the real truth about the fake shit. No one should smoke not cigarettes at least on that note by the way my Chevy A. There's a funny story about this. It's funny that we let it in like this so I take this yoga class at Jeeva Mukti Yoga and it's great and this guy was talking about this bomb. Tom went around to everybody at the end. I don't know if you've ever done a yoga class. Some teachers will like put something sent it on your face at the end when you're Savasta it's awesome so he put something on the rubbings of again the shoulders in the end. I said amazing. That's amazing. What is that stuff? And he kept saying it's China White. It's China White China White China wait So anyway it is Jeevan Mukti China Gel White. Oh ooh but it is. It's China can see that. Yes 'cause I was checked the journal White that I know it feels great. The active ingredients are probably super toxic. Camphor menthol but this stuff minutes like this hot pepper. Some reason this one works so much better so holly I love it. Yeah especially for the winter time and you get those like it's cold it's a it's like. Yeah the for when you have a little when you have a sickness circles or something but now I'm just after this interview I've got to be honest. There's appoint at which it's like. What are consumers supposed to do? We've got toxins everywhere where we do we absolutely do but we also have like. Is it safe to say we have like the most the highest numbers of cancer than any country. Yeah Yeah it's good. Though that I feel like as consumers we are starting to cause brands to be more transparent more because any mergers are becoming smarter than ever with things to look out for but nail Polish. I mean in your. You're up half of that stuff. Wouldn't be on the shelves. Maybe I'm telling you I'm telling you you check it out. You're in the drugstores. There's like everything is so much better because they're FDA or whatever it doesn't allow through that's where boots came from right boots was the UK brand that everybody loved and it came over here. I digress so have you ever gone to get a manicure in Europe. It's so expensive. Actually wear outside manicures in New York. It's the one thing that we get a deal on here. Many New York you can get it for like twelve twelve boxed wham Bam thank you Ma'am Bright. I feel like anywhere else you go. It's like thirty minimum minimum. Yes absolutely absolutely if you. Yeah if you're rubbing someone's hands and feet yeah. It's definitely an charge in my mom but like I remember. I was in London once and I was going to get a Gel manicure and it was going to be a hundred dollars and it wasn't like at the red door salon and SPA. It was at you know some Next door buchory. Yeah no no not not even like Questionable Salon best so same thing with blowout over overseas. The styling is considered like a wedding style. Oh yeah it's crazy. Are People just not as Venus us now now there. I don't think so. No we have come. We have like between the Amazons and the dry bars and the manicure your pedigree places and the instant gratification as Americans that we have I mean it's true. Yeah okay well. My client just said that she completely had an allergic reaction to a blow. Dry places like shampoo and conditioner right. Yeah like instantly had a dry scalp and flaked like within a day or two due to the product because it's like mass marketed. And like it's not done well and it definitely has bad stuff in there. Oh my gosh I got. Somebody pitched us to do. And I can't remember the name of the brand right now and she was like I'm working for this hair care company And I was like. Oh maybe we'll break like that could be interesting. When I googled it? It was like lawsuits up down left and right because people's hair was falling out. Yes hundred percent sent same. Did you ever look into that. Wen hair care where the yeah except one of my girlfriends did it. And she loved it. So you know Harrison. Maybe she didn't realize she was missing. Some lovey Rachel. I mean she loved ones haircare but today's episode interesting thing we again we think about all all the stuff that we put on our bodies in our bodies on our faces but how many of us are really paying attention to goes on her nails. You all might wanNA listen to this especially if you're doing that dip because I promise you will never ever ever do a powder dip manicure secure again and guys. I didn't leave you out on this one. I asked a goddess in their best tips on the man Medicare I wanna get right into into the meat and potatoes because we pay so much attention to everything that we put on our face and on our skin and continuum and consume but our nail Polish can also be quite toxic. You're you're absolutely correct. The toxic trio is formaldehyde. Tall Lean and debuted That's a tricky one to say. Okay those were the first. I trio that people started to realize. Well these are super bad for you. Why do we have these in our now polishes so that was the first to kind of start going out of Banal Paul Shree and can? Can you talk to us a little bit like what. What is it that so bad about? Because I've got to be honest like I don't know that I've ever stopped to like read. My Nail Polish rush bottles. Have you Ryan you have because when I opened Ryan Dorion Salon in two thousand and seven butter butter London. Yeah and and you were on you. Were on the. We did some videos for for for Fox socks. We did a lot of stuff on it because we were kind of like pumping it but it. It didn't last and as a New York girl. y'All had your cranberries still had all had black and you're you're that manicure chipped in two days and in we need to Redo a New York woman. It just didn't quite work. I mean full disclosure so before the segment today on my nails were discovered uh And but part of that is because I went and got a regular manny and within a day they had chipped so I'm doing gel which I'm sure is like that's going to be eighty five thousand chemicals correct are my fingers GonNa fall off. Do I need to be worried. So your fingers are not gonNa fall off but there are definitely things you should watch out for when you are using those Gel product picture the dip outer products. Yeah how bad is that stuff right. So there was that video that went viral about the powder that was really the sketchy. And not the cleanest to us in the most sanitary so I think consumers are more aware that now which is great But just thinking about something that is so lasting on your neil that prevents your nail bed from breathing really prevents you know like any like sort of natural if you're using oil on your cuticle. It's not exactly helping your nail bed as much as it should be when you have something that lasting coating your entire nail bed and the process of putting that Gel and the powder on is very very damaging like you can even have permanent nerve damage if someone's sands too much files. I know it's scary but that's something you need to think about. I mean yeah when they take off because Ryan you don't you don't do gels but when when they take this off. I mean underneath underneath. It's like raw so scary. And also he's like flaked layers and just like quick cover them up again. Yeah right right. And that's something that ten plus free really has tried to combat with our policies and our treatments. Because I mean I I will admit. I'm a reformed Joe Polish user Aaron dip powder user because you think he gets so much better when you're on the go and whatnot but when you really think about Allen or keeping that product over your nail bed and how much you're damaging nail beds put it watch and to take it off you have to soak your your nails in acetone and that is so so drying so I just recently. Somebody was like. Oh Oh actually was like a salon. I went to a new salon. And she said you should try the dip powder and all. I've heard about that because she was like it'll last for like a month. I said I don't want that first of all 'cause like the grow out is going to be disgusting but also it does. I've heard it takes like twenty minutes to soak doc that off. I don't even like doing with like the GEL which is five so the number one thing they teach you when you go to school or cosmetology license or you get your nail eltek license as you. It's one hundred percent about sanitation and not cross contaminating. Your client number one way to do that. It's a double dip. How Oh unearths are you going to? I know products are expensive. I know the new stuff is always the most expensive. So you're going to tell me when you're not looking that they're not shifting powder what are back at the residue in the jar like grows. Wait a minute I thought and again in all fairness I've never done the powder I I thought it was just one jar that everybody did even worse which now I'm realizing how disgusting that is correct. Do you know he said mccully you've done. Yeah I mean all the swans. I've been shoe. They used the same base to dip in. And then the same colors get used over and over and over again and I mean as much as the nail techs are trying find to do their job and trying to make everything sanitary that just doesn't guarantee that everyone is you know doesn't have something wrong or you know there's so many things that could go wrong grocer sir. They nick you. When they're you know with the neighbors yes and that's something that could seriously happen you? I mean a lot of Gel polishes. We've heard horror stories of people con of of getting contact dermatitis horrible. I can't in how many people don't wash their hands. After the right. I mean can we just. Let's just stop 'cause I could keep going. There's so many things if I even brought my cosmetology book to you amber and showed you the bacteria Tirias that I had to like well of course memorized. Couldn't tell you half of them today but they are like the most disgusting looking things in photographs that you've ever seen probably great eight for like a diet because you never want to eat again right. You'll probably never go to a nail salon. Shoot whenever we do pieces that are talking about anything. That's green or non toxic. I do think as a consumer. It's really tough because when you read a label sometimes it might might not say you know this has formaldehyde in it but it can be something that is equally as toxic. Am I correct Ryan with a different different name. Like how are we to combining two of the ingredients actually makes aldehydes right to a formaldehyde. So it's very tricky back in the day at least knew. How are we as consumers supposed to weed through the good and the bad and the ugly so our advice to consumers is to really do your research on the brands that you're spending your hard earned money on and while you're investing because you're not only invest in the company but your investing in your health and your beauty? Okay so the top three things to look for you said we're formaldehyde isn't there is another one bats the beautiful valley right which is terrible and the third one was was Tallinn talion yeah. What are some of the other? You no top batty's if we out for yes so the ones that we always like to be super transparent that were twenty one. Free of Are these Xilin Wannian Camphor carmine. We are gluten free Lead mineral oil styrene. Bourbons all those things that you've I think consumers are starting to hear them more and more that products should be free of these things so I think it's important to look for brands like ten. Plus that are naming things at their free of to you okay. gluten-free my like. Is that real. What's uneaten I'm ever in? A Nail Polish gluten sometimes can be used for like different aspects of now pasta. There's a lot of hidden things in Nail Polish. That might be used to make it last longer to give certain adhesion. Okay yeah if people are really gluten sensitive it I was under the impression that was only like stomach wise but it's also so nail polishes something that can cause reaction shampoo right. Well anything that you're putting on your skin. I mean your skin absorb orb so much. It's the biggest organ on your body right and your nails are an extension of anything that can be absorbed so you should be conscious of if you really have that sensitive of an allergy conscious of what you're putting into your body because you never know yeah and then your products are also said Vegan. Yes one hundred percent vegan again. We are clamped based as well and we're cruelty free like it's twenty twenty. There's no reason for any sort of random testing on animals. We just said absolutely no to all of those things. What can we do so wearing nail Polish in general You know if you leave it on for a while your nails will start to yellow. Okay are there any things that we can do you about that yet while so that starts with using a really good base coat because that's kind of a barrier between your nail and the color choose and how long. How long should you really be leaving your Polish on for our Polish last ten plus days So that's when you're using the base code too thin layers of Polish and then at top coat so I mean as long as you're taking care now you can go for a while but it is nice to give us a break and to really just look until like your cuticle carrier nail care you know so. That's a time. Maybe you can look at your Diet and say oh my nails. Might you know need this or look a little dry. And that's when you you can really think about the carrier. Giving her nails. Here's a little tip to everybody at home to when you are doing Manny's in the salon. I always like to bring my my own two things. I like to bring my own color if I can. Because I've seen it too many times. They thin out the nail Polish with a little bit of Acetone. And that's totally degrading. The adhesion in your nail Polish. So it's going to chip but if you must use those colors Bring Your own top coat right because that's is going to be protective. Bring Your own base coat Because that's going to help with the adhesion and you know that it's not being I guess it wouldn't be watered down but being thinned out by and uncompromised by things like acetone used by nineteen other people day right. That's a really great point trying to bring your own products of the salon is such a great tip. If you find a brand new really love keep bringing it to the salon. Maybe your salon will think. Oh maybe this is a good brand to look into and they can help bring that health health to other customers coming in. Are you in New York. By the way we are New York get. WE'RE IN UPSTATE NEW YORK so we're a little okay. So you're outside of the city Ryan the I don't I feel like I have seen lately more often than I'd like to admit a lot of the salons you know they've got those does UV Pouches one thing. I've been noticing and it will make me walk out of that's lawn. Is it a lot of salons will actually really not the pulse. UV Pouch but they're not opening from the correct end. They're definitely faking. King it okay. Yeah so they're like they're like reusing. Yeah we're they're not even like really ceiling it. It's like I'm just going to put in the back end. Take it out make you think that I'm I'm dumping it out but you can see like the area that they're supposed to like you know when you pull over and done to like you're at the dentist and the inside of you cleaned and yeah no bad. Is that really bad while it's really scary and but also also on the topic of like led lights. A new view likes that. You're constantly putting your hands in. If you're getting GEL or powder you know those are the same lights. That are tanning beds so constant exposure to that even though it's in smaller doses and it's not as strong as a tanning bed but putting your hands into that over time can really cause less skin damage and really irreversible results so that another thing even be conscious of there's companies that have actually reached out to the Rhine. They were like we want to do something on. The manny gloves is that you know our SPF will provide some SPF protection. But as much as I applaud accompany for coming out with that like who's really gonna you'd be surprised. I really remember to bring my own based on top as I'm saying that I should just shut up. But okay now for the for the guy for Perot male listeners. And you know listen I know some ladies out there. They hate how other men keep their fingernails. Cause some you know some guys. It's a little bit goes a long way but when it got into his hands. It's awful what can you you. What how can you speak to the to the male customer for you guys and and what are the top tips? Unlike you know. Keep a good man manicure. That's very funny thank you. That's a good question So the one thing that we always tell people is that you do for your nails. You're gonNA tell a lot about your diet and your health breath. Make sure you're drinking plenty of water as with all beauty anything beauty it all starts from within so your diet super important but you know some guys were our jobs and they use their hands law but even if you're typing at a desk all day Using a nice clear base coat can be really helpful. If you're giving your nails extra nutrients that will last you a couple of days. That's better than having nothing and just having your nail beds exposed to whatever you're doing so nourishing her nails also the best okay. Another way to nourish recommend like cuticle oil on a regular basis. Yeah yeah absolutely cuticle. Oil is a great way to help. Nourish ask your your new nail. That's growing that's that's also why because cuticle their moisturised look super nice but it's also nourish the nail. That's currently only growing and we'll actually be coming out with within the next thirty to sixty days. Nine is because not every not every guy out there is going to throw a topcoat our base Koran thron cuticle oil long run that would be sobriety. Good tip congrats on the new one. Yeah thank you. That was one of our goals for people who I don't like to necessarily have that feeling on their hands around their nails is to make sure that it was fast absorbing and that it didn't leave a super oily residue but it was just you know it was there you could feel like being healthy and or junior nails and then you're good to go and then like top tips because again you know there is a reality. People do the Gel Polish rush because it lasts longer when you're going back to a regular Polish. Are there things that we can do besides just gloves all the time to help extend the manicure her yet. We also like to suggest putting an extra so. Let's say you do your manicure on a Monday and you just want a little extra glasser little extra bit of protection. Do another top CO on Friday. And it'll help take your nose a little bit longer and also when you're painting them Tip the end of your nail with a little bit extra extra you see them do that in the nail salon kind of go around the free edge of the nail. Yeah totally from your base coat to the to Polish coats and the topcoat that totally totally changes. How long are now Polish last? What about what about a dry manicure? Does that really make a difference. I think it can. Yeah I mean we just love traditional manicures so like soaking and the whole thing. Yeah I mean you don't always have the time to do that but I'm mean your nails will thank you for it so really look great within the coming days all right. Thank you Michaela's so much. So if people want to find your product ton plus free where can we go. You can go to ten free chemistry DOT COM and we're also on Amazon. Oh good here and how I mean. It looks like you've got a ton of colors colors. Yeah we have thirty colors right now but will be coming out with attended new colors throughout twenty twenty. I'm so excited because I have a six year old daughter I've been starting take it to the nail salon in it. I've been cringing now. I'm so excited I have. I have a product that I can actually introduced to my daughter. That's going to be good for her. That's really nice to see here yet. We hope that we hope that this is something that parents can use their children teaching them about clean beauty and just getting people away from all those toxic ingredients the ends. There's no reason for them. Now do you think that ten free will ever or ten plus free will ever go into something that's like a more of a long lasting costing like jail. What could happen if we could find a way to do it? In the most nontoxic and at the plant based way away. We'll figure it out. Listen we keep it real here. I Love I mean I you know we look at skincare. We're into the organic but at the end of the day. There's reality to do this and are not laughing. I'm not laughing at you. I'm loving you. Laughter accident I sort of. I guess everyone at home. If you WANNA love me with laughter do you can always reach out to us here on the podcast at hello. RPG PODCASTS DOT com. You can find us on facebook. You can find us on Instagram at art. BEAT PODCAST IN CHECK US out on our new platform. Is it still new anymore or should we just just say the Amazon Platform. You WanNa see. WanNa see all the glory and my fabulous but toxic nells youtube dot com forward slash our or beauty podcast for the latest and the greatest and as always. We will see you guys next Tuesday.
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Episode 19: "Whole Lotta Red"
"The news hating laugh. Inducing and probably most disapproving podcast. You've all been waiting for welcome to the tonight. Talk with your host. Brendan torres and co-host jason. Rao's ladies and gentlemen welcome back to talk. We are on episode nineteen. What an amazing time to be alive. Twenty twenty s. Almost over actually. I'm pretty sure that next week's episode. It's going to be the day after new year's day. So this is our last episode of the year of twenty. Twenty eight has been one hell of a year. We actually started back up tonight. Saw this year so it's been one hell of a year Both the good and bad. We have done a lot of great things and we'll also been through a lot great things but of course we can't start off with any of that because some bad shit happened in the news today. So for those. That haven't heard amid nashville city bombing happened recently. So now there's a huge investigation going on as to what happened You know where the blast occurred and the washington post reported today that the nashville blasts investigation converges on a home in the suburbs to wish they reported authorities investigating the christmas morning. Explosion in downtown nashville converged on a home in antioch or aunt shock. I don't know how to pronounce stat tennessee about ten miles southeast of the blast site saturday afternoon as lao law enforcement agents continue to gather evidence and run down hundreds of tips. Investigators think the person living at the address has connection to the bombing one theory investigator theory. Investigators are pursuing is that the man blew himself up in the rv according to people familiar with the matter who cautioned that the officials are still pursuing numerous leads that no final conclusions have been reached. So it's possible that a dude blew himself up. He's he was tired of it. He was dying he was done. He said fuck it. I not happy with this bro. Holo by knocking librarian. And when i saw i was like joe. What's actually going to iraq like. I didn't know this you hear about it. Oh my god new orleans iraq. I heard about they should you as god damn. I was like wool. What's what the hell soul is. Apparently a lot of people about it. Yeah a lot of people are so focused on covert and evidence happening with that. They didn't realize that the nastro bombing even happened. Speaking of co-boys the move onto a better topic. Covid nineteen cases surpass eighty fucking million globally holy. Shit noah side. I didn't wanna cover cova next year by guess for now the cover go next year. We're definitely doing that another year. Another year in the paycheck. Well no we're not getting paid. Actually what's our current bounds. Like three dollars snap air. We get a cent per viewer on the show anyway Yeah eighty million. Global cases now for kobe Four hundred seventy two thousand new covid. Nineteen cases were recorded on christmas day. According to the hill which is crazy when the number of deaths due to the virus are now at at one point. Seven five million. Yikes people that show. That's more that's more people that have died of carbon. There have been a smashmouth concert now. What was the last time mouth ever even made like a popular song. Recently i've i've listened to their acoustics. But i've i have not. They have not released the song and like forever have their evro who died. No not no not literally like beta fellow. I'd say they died off anytime soon though man like holy shit though. I can't believe it's eighty million. That's like that's like a surreal number. But it's not as surreal as the number of the moderators came up with when they were talking about. How dream cheated and minecraft you see that she came then. Number was one seven point five trillion like what's trillion. That doesn't even sound. Right was was such a crazy video. I didn't even know that he was accused of cheating. Now my brother was talking. You'll jim she didn't like you're lying. Loy god why would he need to cheat. Exactly god exactly malfa Me glad that he you know. I'm glad that he proved cheap l. Dream i was ruined for dream there. I was hoping that he didn't cheat he did. I'm so mad about jopstone dream for fucking making people both glow squid square. What the only yan malvo. Yeah ice eligible for the ice villager. Almira no close. Quit for the win. Noah gonna do it better. Give me a good give you. It probably will. Which i i've been. I've actually been playing minecraft on java lately. I think streamed it on christmas eve countdown. So that was pretty fun or did you watch that i think. Are you subscribe on youtube. Yes i yes. I on solving Me i was told to do. A christmas countdown usually minecraft. I can't wait. When is the one point. Seven one point. Seventeen coming out wayne's the The caves and clemson now army at one point sixteen now like all in all all jar java java. I don't know i'm not humorous. Those states because i know this is a long time ensuring the trailer for it. All it comes along later got so much longer like come on coalition. But you know what i mean. Waiting to scare sell go. It's still a good game though. You know yeah definitely something. People are looking forward to. People were also looking forward to Today's release of wonder woman nineteen eighty-four. Apparently i gen reported that there are seven big. What the fuck questions. That wonder woman has left those with and that she could possibly be a game changer for the dc eu which is pretty cool. I haven't watched a movie yet. But it's pretty cool. And now it says i give you the daunting task of explaining how you felt about the movie. Without spoiling it at all all has impossibly up. Okay go ahead. Mister co-host doing well. Okay okay. I know one of the old tag taganrog in And wonder woman nineteen eighty-four. Yeah yeah yeah. I'll miss saying what they do for ending. I don't like it. I think i think that's actually i know what you're talking about. I think that's one of the questions. That i g n. Actually we're not going to say. Yeah because it's going to be there. Spoilers ahead i don't wanna spoil it for any disease. Yeah the pros. Didn't like is a huge spoiler. God i saw it on by joe. My don't like this anymore. Elliot's good on point dc movie until you fuck it up right. Data is like okay say. Musk awesome The one first movie could letter this. Maybe they did the same thing by the way others realize. I launched both one women's The day before christmas. And on christmas i saw the same thing happened again. Maya god and one an wonder woman is weird. She's weird by the way what she does in. The movies really weird. Oh steve steve's yeah brawl no gonna go if she was right around watching at home. Look like if i probably know. Two of the questions like wonder woman. Connie if you will we'll come back to it next week and then we'll discuss it with discussed so that way. We can actually discuss it with spoilers but quickly a little off topic. But i wanted to bring this up. Because i found out recently We hit sixty followers on spotify. Which i didn't know spotify had like a follower thing that you do so so we're sixty dollars you guys so much for to sixty followers all the all of our followers on spotify. Thank you so much for everything Watching okay i was gonna say some. Was that a little bit too much dough today. Oh my god. Jesus lord mike. Oh my god. This christmas is one hell of a time though a lot. Yeah yeah big ass data. Samsa ahead i had been. Oh my god law y'all malicious which is today with my fam- fat. Oh my goodness but you know what else was a pretty funny christmas present that we got driven comic books report Poke poke made fan surprising with employs. Your friend risk boyfriend. Most be six-year-old hokey no. He has to be like five for to date. At least at least we saw. How many pages for did not hold on. Roku someone's harsha was holding a packet son. Oh yeah that's the packet that they give you. You're going home for the holiday. Season was a qr to see what he looks like to grow. lake on sent the picture. Yep he shows that the picture with they should be like one of those. Sat things where it's like a an. What was it when you when you go take. Sat's in the flex you again bag. Ask you to take a picture. And it's like a little piece of paper with like picture and your information. I that's what he should. He should've just like that. Now bro idea of god. Take per like perks you can have. You can have debit card information. Who des one man's money okay. How's she go by. She could buy me dinner. Why would you want her to buy her co she s. She's making more than me. I mean yeah belay come on man have some self respect so for specked bro. Equal rights they want that shit. Like i just an offering pains at all pay. No i'll pay you. Yeah i i used to. I used to have have access that used to do that again. I'll be like yeah. I'll pay go. I'll pay that's okay. i'll pay. They're like no i'll pay. I'm like whoa. Whoa don't sluggish. Murder all happened time. I wanna give like some girl diane. You're longtime ago fucking like a Early gifts by christmas. She's like j o mike. God please saw my god right something new. It's kind of been bugging me post by the comic book. And it's titled the xbox one game unexpectedly cancelled two months before release and a game. It's a lewd game called gal gun returns. Which wow this is while and basically the point is saying that they wanted to delay it because or to cancel it. I'm pretty sure it's delayed because the game is not finished or stuff like that. And i'm like. Was it really that the game was finished or was that you saw what happened with cyberpunk. Now you're now you're like oh shit. Are we sure this is supposed to me. It kind of scares me. Because i think a lot of game developers are gonna get scared. Excuse me as to what what could happen. If they don't provide a good finished product to consumers which is a good thing. But god damn that's scary brooks like fucking for the ps five is kind of a huge job. So yeah it is. They're going to bring us. He does a lot maybe for the next few months definitely for sure. They're like holy shit. I think can handle liking salt production grind. We'll talk more about it after this commercial break. We'll be right back after this. Have you ever thought about starting your own bod cast when i was trying to get this podcast off the ground. I had a lot of questions. Kadoi record in the episode. How do i get my show in all the apps people like to listen to. How do i make money from my podcast. The answers to every one of these questions is really simple anchor. Anchor is a one stop shop recording hosting and distributing your podcast festival. It's one hundred percent free and ridiculously easy to use. And now anger can match you with great sponsors. Who want to advertise on your podcast. That means you can get paid to podcast right away in fact. That's why i'm doing this right now by reading this ad so for me anchor is really awesome. The us it's really simplistic and on top of that. The tonight talk does a great job with the people who listen to it. It's really fun to use and on top of that. It's really easy to work with. So if you're always wanted to start a podcast and make money doing it. Go to anger dot. fm slash. Start to join me and the diverse community of podcasters already using anchor that's anchored dot f. m. slash start. I cannot wait to hear your podcast. See on the plainfield man. Thank you guys so much that message. We are back with a few guest. Actually we have the return trilogy. Episode has been fulfilled with baby pluto aka. Our good friend richard and one of his friends who i don't fucking know the name of leave forgot to ask for ricardo with his friend ricardo. How you guys both doing only of both that. We are two separate human beings. Use every fat ass. Cdo looking off. No body positivity but she on our talking to someone all dan with seconds now on the verge of converged But you never doing it. We should we should. We should hire richard. Do tonight's okay. To my life. Gb the solar feet picks and then he'll be back at the flood by not believe that said. I know y'all recording this by to get even talking about time. I'm all right. I'm glad to hear that. Okay so we all. We all know what happened. On december twenty first. But i gotta ask for. I gotta ask you. What did you get some. I mean enough metal this powder day. She youtube don't people power to the people who understand believed in it. And i made a choice. So hundred percent believe in it and i got bowers. What powers did you get everything on the box. He became god. K was nothing changed fro. 'cause i'm not doing anything you but you should have changed. Every that was the whole point of now we gotta wait to determine drive. Why you gotta wait but has no real even expect need. Are you gonna do shit. I'm over by night did you. Did you only get it for the twenty first or was it like a few days or do you still. Oh shit okay. All male is a cool down phase no manipulation of women he keeps using you know why all you want a head it you we we you guys shit the fuck fucking swirly picture shit where. He's like hypnotized. You ought to work in its manetti. Here you're your your job done. Oh my gosh. I i do as you go to like. The girls got more benefits. About though. If i if i if i were to get pictures of girls shaking their ass. Who were above the team. Might now i do this shit. All the time. Pictures free bully picks and mixtures videos back. Yes it's video alex. That's even better. I can't thank you. I hope. I only do videos of the edits. I don't only accept of that. I'm not. I'm guys come on me. Well yeah. I no response earl being pushed both of mine is i'll top of looking at it and then this guy the console's like me. I immediately deleted the comment was he. What's his body fat enough. That was white. These questions will be answered because it feels weird to elbow this one pretty soon. So you won't do that. You'll post smash pass jean-charles. Oh you know what i'm talking about. We we get a replay from last episode. Okay fine fine. I may have done that or could have been. We don't know that. But what i do know is that you said yes. Validates the number one. Of course i play. Yes this magic steve star by the way he had that one course That one picture where he was so his baz exactly. That's my profile picture. I don't know where i see. Picture bio king. I'm glad to hear that word. What now if you'll ever find day off if nope. I want to be honest profile picture way way way. I budgets are profile picture Amazing grace style. My two inch changing from one. I haven't changed my profile. And mike years bomber about change. Something said mon-. I wonder what jeevan possibly changes of all the things that jason has a picture of like. He might just change to his own penis for. All i know is what is says the head to a smiley face. Hud one. it's my gift my gift to you all have. Oh god i really. I really hate with jason's like oh. Yeah i'm going to find a picture of some own richer with you. A friend resume his as a polk main boyfriend mess. Boy resume in in the fucking idea. He has a pros and cons list. The pros i can do at its cons. Said be picks can't drive. I can't know malaysia. Against the no one was about to say i can't wait. I can't wait actually school screwing over talking about the thing. I know god i visit hake. This is this is my show of all. We talk about kardashian shares. Go go ahead. why not. Let's talk about iggy and cardi and how cardi is dead comedy draw. The cruisers out nichols was ass at fox. But your mike like kinda loud okay let me turn my volume. Immune second changes so loved tonight past photo micah rugged even read it. Oh it's fine for me. So very so. He jumped out more christmas and instead of spending time with his kid. He decided though album party with this random girl so he missed christmas with his research. Our party for a horrible album in tijuana ray exposing him saying that she did expose them. She fucking expos i saw the tweets for. She exposes as hard. She said everything not for the net violence there implement someone. Just start taking advantage. Like crazy was all you can do good night. And then she said imagine off plying your family on christmas you have going cheated on me. My entire pregnancy at your party and magically muscle can consequence anymore trash and then on top of that during her pregnancy instead of him beating plenty of. Ps five bro. That she was connie say section of millions learn. Damas morales bro. And saying night before christmas man was begging her. Oh he's was saying. I love you. I'm gonna go on vacations. You can use me back in where he bro this up and soon where she where she posted the baby birth certificate give. Assigning was mad. Fucking crazy world on top down score to see a caption against the other shows. Video of labor cardi side getting kicked out and just grow packing up and getting yelled at bro. I feel ono's. I'm not throwing as our this carney's losing his fan base for this every cardi fan by fuck this shit. I owe my father. Yeah yeah oh my fucking god. Oh my god why. It's a picture of richard much energy regarding. Actually that is something funny. Imagine not spending time not spending christmas with With your go just decide ho. How is that funny celebrating celebrating celebrating your album. Everyone tells you that almaz your girl doesn't want to know more. She tells your whole life to everybody. And then you end your life when someone says your disappointment with grave more live is already deployment in europe. It stopped singing hard. He lifted the and he ended alive a confused. Everyone didn't like the album. Our you so confused by that whole borough uses leave. I'll go somewhere. You plenty of judas better. I wonder i wonder what made him want to cheat. On iggy though like i'm not saying like a bitch but yeah okay. That's that's going to be there you totally there. I would do the same thing here. that shit. He's been playing. All cardi heard that freestyle shit. But she's evolved since she's so bad bo iggy never see his long that time in jail for you she dated horrid nineteen. I'm sixteen so here's here's where six because in about a year must be eighteen hole. Lot of iggy get it go to a whole lot. She was in love the album alone arab bliss asshole each kid down but that would make a good thing. I wrong but in your chocolate ice cream in there. What did you just say a process that bro. I come on like we're talk about food or even just why search swear to god i. That was my childhood was my childhood film. And you do that to me is a song. I'll still slash jeevan. Fuck us that we would smash but richard walk street for yourself. Richer you would. French ran away when you hold on. Wait richard richard. Instead one buys minutes once said the pussy still pink inside would probably get confused between richard and trek. I kid sake. Say iraq. Shaving richie this starting to consider ricardo to all ya'll air book as this terrible mix no way. This is the most racist guy here. Who are you talking about what song you wanted electro the orange video of you and your son on christmas under the bridge. You wind apology letter off looking for three minutes straight going. It has come to my attention that the album released on christmas day was seen as a complete disappointment among the community. And my fans. So those fans i apologize to my age. I apologize to my mother. I apologize. I apologize to my son has all asked locks a whole lot of deluxe. It's not red and brown brad. Own taco bell the We'll we'll talk more about this after a commercial break. We'll be right back after these messages. All guy so much ended those messages. Give back to the discussion at hand. And which i don't really know what the flex was. All i remember was talking about cardi's reading shit so you have seen some bro. I know that christmas dinner was back. Chris hello yeah me too large macking. I got double bubble gum. What look i'm opening. Look it's bubble gum algal is. 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He called lacuna small like he was like a like fucking weird new yorker all of the size of a message and he responds to it with da da. What the fuck is don. I don't know what that is didn't respond to it. Because i'm like i don't know what that is going to respond to that shit bro. He followed me. Da mentioned says uncovered do She was like russian. Who has question. isn't it wrong. That i'm hesitate a white female. Why are you scared of him. No no no. No no is hesitant. You say you're scared. I'm hesitant to date data white female headed. It's it it is because like knows one time is white girl and over here. Talk this time of the. George floyd thin so we're talking i'm like It's kinda must not kind of much of what they did. Because he shouldn't have died over What accountable bill choosing what will and to be honest. I could do anything wrong in the winter job in meeting. I bought her on a you know what though you know what. Though that's some girls there are a lot of white girls who are overtly. blm bass facts. I'm scared to that. Some white girl. And i might be alive because that's why would you think not take too so you can keep your understanding you know. Try to express in that form like you don't have to immediately leave versus trying to make her see your side. Ochre open moving in turn tonight worse because after the ruling towards the to happen and i bet you if i had brought that up to josh earnest so i mean it is getting why i just. I'm thinking bro. It's a it's a balance you gotta find. You've gotta find a balance like there's this white shook that i was talking to and she was like she wasn't republican like that. There was anything wrong with though. She doesn't like that kind of idiot. Well she also wasn't like extremely liberal so like we could have like those kinds of conversations and it wouldn't be like death threats or anything like that. But i don't know why we stopped talking. I don't remember what it was to pick me. I'm getting sick. Would be okay with it as long as it wasn't bigger than mine like come on. But i really hope it wasn't said way worse for inclusive. Far off the podcast. A low minimum. Only private cannot though richard richard. You gotta find yourself a crazy white bitch. Because on one hand their creeds other sex spry. you're nobody knows how to cook jeevan. What are you talking to vote. No chick knows how to cook. Brennan chicken bitchy. Be like everything like question that you don't ask on the first or second date odinaka cook or your opinion on the things you actually you find him out during the in the relationship over time we should imagine he single. Ask her to make your home cooked meal. Boil some chicken wings. Now you know. She talks about a tv dinner. She's about a new a tv. It'd be like enough. Maybe eat ups steak. I don't want that. The martin our brain to shut up. I'm trying to get you know what waterman ga lay. Come on that one we gotta. We gotta go to commercial break. We gotta go to commercial break. Be right back after these messages. Thank you ladies and gentlemen for tuning into that final message for tonight. Let's get back to to whatever the fuck it is. Imagine you come home from work. Great and you know you Home roses whatever. You wanna bring jobs into this parties there right shut up you go like yo but she put you in might dunker able to look already like ooh on your just waiting. The benham come with the food of kinda jewelry to kfc. Cole looks so good visually right. So you're high. You gave her the roses you kissing. Eat and it's bad. What do you do them i murder. I'm practicing abstinence last night. I don't care. I can't be submitted. Chicken make gonna have no energy won't get so bad 'cause like you think the food so good you'll movie. I cannot wait to try you hype it up so much. It's not bad you can't walk out because you already. There's anniversary like you've got a student. I'm leaving the plate. Durham ordering take out the house. Domino's delivery to the po box. I'll be there in ten minutes. Roach document cannot cope a life. Though i is there's a bunch of women in the world who can't cook regardless if they are good understand did you to their step-by-step in shosha. Full nine trumbull eggs. That's probably why there be so bad. Some troll on youtube is like. Here's i cooked some chicken wings. And they fucking quote like some oyster sauce. And there's some shit like that. Can you please your man right here right. And she was this thing that we had. This event will cook the traditional meals oil now. The teachers white so they don't like they don't have many traditional motorola and they don't come from like italy or whatever all their all other from america so like they don't really have culture of debt so they come in with some chicken wings right. They look good. When i tasted those borough onto guy. I never one plane. You know. it's also not eating chicken before i don't. That's awesome though. I don't know shit ship of the crabby. Patty one crabby patty episode. Spongebob where it was like a really ugly. That's seeking wing sizes a look like 'cause there was. I never wanted the chicken before i don't. I don't know who i know. Is this stuff on youtube. There's resources out there you can learn. It's not hard to see chicken. It really isn't hard holiday season chicken how to how to make fried chicken have you guys. I love the giants. Have you guys ever had bad spaghetti from a woman who was italian. I've never had any detail. Okay i was. I was talking to this italian and we both lived in yonkers and she knew how pasta fuck you knew how to cook pasta. So i love pasta. And i actually i was the hey make some spaghetti and meatballs. I'll eat that. And so she she made. And i know that there is a spaghetti with red sauce and spaghetti with white sauces and off goes. Does she thinking shit. I swear to fucking god. It was green. I swear to fucking great. I thought i thought i thought that she was like. Oh she knows about so fleet or something like that. I would've tasted roll dash. It tasted so bad. I don't even know how to explain it because if felt like she was processed broccoli. Tastes like come on. Have you guys ever had like expired sauce. Accidentally had some aga. It tastes bad guys know expires. Tastes like shit. So that's what it tasted like on top of the fact that the sauce was really thick. Also i'm like oh my god this was asked. So how do i go back to this chick and go. Hey this food was fucking terrible. I didn't know that was younger. So fucking this shit was terrible addition terrible. She never spoke to me again. I never spoke to me again now. Wow how to cook. Nationally nationally should've said the real quick one more day. Teach cook come together league one of the worst things that i've ever had was grilled cheese. I don't know how you fuck up a grocery sack to someone. Fuck a grilled cheese sandwich. it was in. It was on pr and recall. Yes i used to one of my aunts because You might have passed away so we sometimes go over. There sold to spend some time with the family and she was cooking right. And i had highest grilled cheese. I love cheese. And she bird the geez. I it looks it sparkled in it had it on its own zahn effects and everything i took a. I put everything in my mouth. I was your mule. And i ran to the bathroom bro. Through that sit in the toilet and it has the worst part. Winter food looks good because again deposed under aid this was the food looks good. It tastes pat burrow. What can you say. I saying like you crow. You slap your mom blade. Go up the hell is this always. My mom always said to be truthful about food. That's what she always told me so. I really didn't like the way this meatloaf tasted my ass handed to me. You're just like what the fuck a lose lose. Situation is all fun and games until a parent dozen restaurant all the time and i swear every time we go to a fancy restaurant or anything because for the special occasion in my mom's like excuse me this tastes like trash on mike. Good no no. My mom be straightforward. She realized kucuk with the super water. Like where's the taste or did you do. I wanna do x. No but it's was doing mantonse embarrassing. But i i know it's embarrassing for many people. But you know h-h-hispanics only on the day breath too so it'd be like here's your things and they'd be like dying you. Like okay got being jamaican. The needs to be jamaican hispanic. He's still stuck on his stupid. Take care duolingo another word. of course it works. I can't learn from charted so much. I can't i try to learn because you're not dedicated. Richard trying learn german and then read mine com. Okposo i really. I go to sleep every name day. Richard richard loves hitler. Under hitler's a love. Anyway bobbly i would. I would love fuck me. That's bad. I would love to continue but we are unfortunately out of time for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in to the tonight talk. Thank you ricardo and richard. Coming on the show. Richard obvious is baby. Pluto link will be in. The description of the podcasts ricardo. I'm not gonna put his instagram in there. I'm just kidding ricarda. what's your instagram. No idea. I bear usa story. Then i'm not gonna wait who's gonna pretend like nothing ever happened. Never mind okay. Nope i'm not doing that. No no no. Thank you guys. Tuning in ballard. Subscribe anywhere fuck you guys. Anyone listening in and we'll see you guys next week also. Merry christmas and happy new year since we won't okay have a good night. Ladies and gentlemen what a die.
Narcissistic Family systems and the roles we all play
"When trying to get a better understanding of who we are as individuals. It's often quite helpful to look at the family system dynamics and how that plays a role in all of our lives your intelligence your emotions. Your spiritual intelligence social intelligence emotional intelligence. All of it is learned through I through a family system in the beginning. You gotta remember that you would dependent whether you like it or not. You were dependent on a carer to provide you with the basics of food warmth roof over your head sleep those kinds of things so through that relationship of give take alone You learn how to become dependent on other people in the first way we can see. That family has a lot of punch is when we can see family. Disconnections occur when there's a divorce when there's a problem child when one of the parents is an alcoholic for example or one of the children siblings has a mental disorder or brain disease so it is a very very complex emotional system and the family hero is normally a person who follows the rules quite well. They take the role of caretaker in the family looking after the others. They are normally also high achievers. And a quite rigid sticking to goals timetables and shedules possibly better than a lot of other people in that family so the role number one in the family. We could put down as the hero. The second part of the family system is a scapegoat her. The scapegoat is dejected. Oftentimes lonely is always blamed for a lot of the things going wrong in terms of the family. Dynamic and the scapegoat is there. I mean the name says it'll itself and then in each family we get the lost child in this position or role in the family is a child who's playing. Tv Games a lot on their own. Often I'm often described as the forgotten child in the family who you know. We'll be playing. Tv Games will be alone. A lot of the time Dejected shameful fearful intensive personality so tiled might be quiet and agreeable in presentation that under the surface that might carry a law that frustration of of never being heard. Obviously you've got the hero someone playing the hero role in the Femi- always achieving always winning while you've lost child and the hero my even sometimes Because he or she has taken such a role of achieving. Might want to fix a lost child. These are the interpersonal dynamics that are based on emotion and the behaviors that certain people take in the family and when the hero or the mascot starts Joking around and kicking off you might filed find the lost child gun withdrawal and fulfill. They rolled that way. Even though someone might be believers and loud and boisterous as a hero in the family they might be left alone by the enabler and I think the peacekeeper will always be trying to satisfy own internal needs and create a sense of calm stasis which Kinda works for awhile rarely does but it's GonNa wait then each person must be authentic selves and these roles will fall flat sooner rather than later And then the work will be done by the individual to remove. What essentially are coping mechanisms through the trials of life so essentially we have four main rosal core roles in a family starting with the hero as number one. Which is the caretaker of the family? Generally louder putting things together achieving sort of binding things together Always trying to perform get things done. Follow the rules and fix cope with life that way. The second role we've got is the mascot and the mascot takes position of funding Games lighthearted easy come easy going. That's obviously just on the surface under that is someone who might be angry. Might be resentful at other family members for not being taken seriously so the paradox and that is shows that work to be done later on so a personal use that role being the mascot to cook the third role that we have is that of the lost child so the child will be quiet playing video games. Doing art quietly drawing retreating to their room. If there's a lot of noise and so on they'll be gone family functions and song you might find. The last child has disappeared and is sitting quietly alone talking to personal or sitting alone in their rooms and feelings of rejection on my come up later on for the last child who after all has been in their minds abandoned by the rest of the family who seemed to cope far far better. They seem to be more sociable outgoing. They seem to be more bonded and emotionally binded together. So long shall always battling t to fit into the family in one way or another and tends to do it by being nice which is trouble of its own compliance and it's not authentic so that role has to waste and two and the last roll which most people know is the role of the scapegoat. Each Bambi has a scapegoat. They're always blamed for what goes wrong in the family. They are always the ones who probably up to their rooms and say look you blaming me again. The scapegoat almost inevitably comes jealous. Hurt better and angry. At people playing other roles in the family and often they have to try and fight for their significance in the family and they need to be noticed and acknowledged often goes unnoticed. So they try and overcompensate lot of the time but to coke they will be allow themselves to be the scapegoat of the family. So the purpose of these family roles often to try and get rid of or dissipate the anxiety in the house. That's obviously going to come through ordinary everyday life. The trials of life bring a lot of tension a lot of stress anxiety. There's exams this job. Applications there's a ton of different things. Each person is busy with a bunch of their own things but there is definitely an emotional interlocking and over time you will see that the emotional interlocking creates a system and you start to function out of that system. You find your role or your groove and then you go down that road. Create personality traits attitudes all through Being part of that particular family system so yes you are inculturated. You are part of your society. You definitely part of a family and sometimes it takes them work as an adult to to get out of the thinking that kept you saying and safe and in a functional role as a child and they will. We have family off three other roles that have come to the full. You're in the last few years we kind of noticed the roles especially in addiction treatment of what we would call the chief enabling in the family Jeevan blended family is a sweeping things under the carpet. They'll always Taking the position of the rescuer and helping people to make excuses when they didn't work They life for the person they Manipulate they done tell. Much of the truth achieve enabler will sometimes although in quite a passive capacity will often take over Doing for other people in the family what those people can do for themselves and you might find a mother over caretaking a for her son making excuses for him at football practice making excuses phoning his job and saying he's ill able to attain when he really party till five in the morning as a hangover. They do their schoolwork assignment work for their children. And at the end the chief enabler leaves the people in the Family System. Em- feeling emotionally incapable of living life and often often often. If not always we have a enabler in a family. Who's looking Oeste a victim or an addict? Which brings us to position. The five victim in the family is a person who manipulates a lot. It is a position where you would always start to blame. Finger point. It's your fault. It wasn't me if they don't succeed. It's because of this person or that thing that place and at the end of the day playing a victim role as we know is something that creates what we call. The Drama Triangle and being stuck in drama triangle is something that can perpetuate and lead to a lot of life's problems. Drama Triangle takes the three positions of the persecutor rescuer and the victim and create what we would call drama and drama which goes from each position right around backwards and forwards always changing place changing space. It goes backwards and forwards creating drama so that we don't read look at what's going on in the family. We look at the real emotions. We Don look a dad. Who's the alcohol IQ or the mum he's having an affair Or the last child. Who's now become an addict? So when we get into persecutor rescuer and victim roles. We're into something luck deeper. And these trying you tying. The roles are all victim positions that we need to get out of so family. Systems can be quite complicated but to know what's going on is the very first step in getting out of them and creating healthy boundaries so from those codependent relationships one day. Eventually if we're really going to get the homies stasis and balance back which is what the roles were created for in the first place. If we really going to get those back we need to focus on self step out of the roles That we were playing with the with heroes with mascots whether we lost child with scapegoats. All whether we one of these. Three persecutor rescuer ole victim and get out of those roles and become more things that can ourselves and sometimes we can only do that when we our primary family We might have a Dad. That is very very controlling us to be out. Offensive Sells They might have prejudices and they beat us and they might have other ways of manipulating keeping us even through being arse in positions that ray rated keep us playing the role that suits them in the family. So I the I think the main thing that we need to know is look at the drama triangle and see which role urine not just which roles other people i. It's easy to say. Well my mother. She's always playing the victim. You know my sister is always trying to rescue everybody and you could say my dad is always standing there. Persecuting judging ridiculing everybody and I think what we've gotTa Know First Office at does positions change all the time and second of all most important is no that you fall into drama. We fall into drama. Triangles ourselves you might go out and give your life in extreme example. Someone's fallen into lake drowning in the ocean. And Hugh might give your life for that stranger when you take position of a race. Cura If for some reason you snap into the position of persecutor for the day you might punch somebody or beat somebody who cuts you off the traffic. You might told him you're GONNA kill them and be violent in an instant you might take on that position and then if you see other people doing all of this kind of stuff you might intern back to being rescuer and try and solve the conflict or the drama out and and a victim role all three by the way off victim roles underneath but a victim role is something that we all fall into from time to time woes. Me I need you to do this. I need you to do that. I've been given a bad deal. This is why I didn't do my exams. Well it's because of not taking accountability and responsibility for oneself. We full into the role of drama because it keeps us from the real emotions which probably ought to painful at the time to deal with so if we tried to keep shame and guilt down. We might Stock Drama Stock Family Drama and create chaos about things that don't matter and through manipulation powerplays controlling making these things far worse than they all to keep us away from the real problems. Real problems can be dad. They'll cut us mom's alcoholism It can be one of the siblings as addiction The focus on the drama rather bane people than deal with the core emotions. Of course that's along the way around and it doesn't work but at the end of the day you need to become aware of these things and then accept the roles. You play once you're aware and who what how things happen in family unfold and then from that position take new action in articulating yourself in self actualising his off and removing yourself from being the mascot or from being the LAS child and own up show and grow up From that position when we are not in one of these dramas trying to push negative feelings. Dumb we can then allow the negative feelings to come up and then dissipate and when we do that we don't only have the shame and the guilt and the remorse and the rejection come up we also have the good feelings and the good feelings at the loss chow might not have. The victim might not have been expressing as a child. So those are the family roles we play and they are important to know Because whether you're aware of them are not these roles systems working within your own family full five of you. That are profoundly Powerful so in family systems therapy when you dealing with the healing any kind of trauma. Any shedder integration. Work that you've done as a as an adult from from a child or teens perspective you need to know that each and every family have very very powerful roles in them so the family roles can be summarized as the hero the mascot the lost child and the scapegoat. We then go a little bit deeper and we will see a family enabler. We will also see a victim usually suffering addiction for example and then we will see a persecutor someone in the family's always getting angry always shouting and so on so those seven roles rarely primary and secondary roles that we look at. Keep the famiy together through a lot of emotional So these roles keep the family together through law of the tough stuff in life especially Helping US cope with emotional side of life. What we have family rules on. One side and Family ROLES ON THE OTHER. Every single family doesn't only have roles. They have rules and families rules that you need to go back now that you might be more mature at might more emotionally intelligent. Go back and have a look at what? We're my family rules where we allowed to speak of anything that happened in the house where we only allowed to talk about the good stuff. Not The bad Where we overprotected within no boundaries to people walk around with no clothes on freak. Some of the other family deserve what happened. They walked with family. Rules swearing allowed swearing. Not Allowed. You know were people allowed to come home drunk with parents. Come drive pass out on the couch. Those are the family rules when you look at Family System. You need to look at what roles. He played what rules you love by. And then the drama that keeps US away from deal. Fintech self the real real story where this family's not working dads and alcoholic or choline. Do we got no money because of and if you can't say those things bang you're in a role and you playing the game. So out of all these positions We find that in addiction treatment. For example we are helping the victim in these fatty roles for Twain t years for twenty years and it is something that we can work on much much earlier. But that's another thing what we mean to know is not only victims families at what I've discovered more and more is that each and every addict for example has an enabler. Each addict has an enabler and those enablers seem to be part of the problem. So when we're looking at Addiction treatment having such a low low success rate. I mean we're talking five to twenty percent all over the world after twelve months. It's got such a low success rate Often not only because of the addict but because they are being enabled by someone else often in a caring family system who need help themselves and what we need to start doing today is instead of just sending the person out of the family system and into care themselves and then returning them back into that family system is to actually look at each person in the family and help them therapeutically. Get better self actualize themselves. Especially we're GONNA have an enabler in there who is justifying often killing the person that they say they love and love is a verb. You don't go and buy some drugs because it will make you feel better and enable often say icon. Stand feeling that. My daughter is out there looking for drugs. Let me go and give her the money to carry it on me. Go to the liquor store the bottle shop and let me go and buy the alcohol for them. Then he make excuses for them and it's reached epic proportions not only the rise and rise of addictions and dependencies but also the significant impact that enables have on the Siblings spouses the ones they love. So there's more up here. If you click the link watch our series on enabling and Ray understand what is happening day and it can save people millions of rands. Thousands of wasted hours never mind. Lives pain suffering. That can be unnecessary if we do things along. That path is to really look deeply at things from the get. Go and look at unrolls. If we're using people even say people even the mascots and the victims to satisfy own lack within us. I feel shame and guilt so I then go drive you to the liquor shop in the middle of the night. If I'm doing that it has nothing to do with that person. That is good so I become part of the problem and definitely not part of the solution. So that's the way. The addiction topic needs to go today. Follow Mall to the system that has created and definitely sustained the problem.
010 Are organic fruits and vegetables really worth it
"Hello and welcome to healthy eating kids podcasts on fantical, a registered paediatric dodging and nutrition expert. You'll be teasing out the facts from fish. And learn how empower your child when it comes to food and nutrition really excited to have rare with us today. She's going to talk a lot of bad organic foods. I know this is a topic that you love to ask questions on, but I didn't feel like I was expecting this areas. I'm really excited to have rare help us decide do we go or Ganic or not. So rare, welcome to the show. Learn how are you? I'm good. Thank you. How are you today airy? Well, very well would unite to introduce yourself to us. Tell us a bit more about U Munnings ragent on a consultant nutritionist to douse photo Gannex, which is part of how we net on netra pack nutritionist and a whole list. So I'm reading from the complementary side of the fence. On a practice for about thirty us now trying to strata. And I was part of the group that put the bachelor of science in nutrition therapy to give at Westminster university, and untold. It Wissman style for quite a few years in health sciences, as well as having interest in touchy diabetes. I do a lot of health coaching behavior change coaching type two diabetes as well. That sounds amazing but a fantastic experience, that you've got and tell us about your robe. Adults that how'd you support them? On. That was very interesting that began somebody said, you should meet my friend Carol. She's a fall, not realizing by Carol Hemat lady, Carol banks and that the bitter farming she'd is possibly one of the most beautiful organic farms in the world. But when I got down there to meet them all they had everything that annoys about food and sustainable on owning under one roof. Heritage seeds apple orchards organic farming, lots of really traditional vegetables. Resurrect in a. Lost Akao, which had needed come extinct, the Iran about fifty at cast in Britain, and they built in bet from the brief Futian analogous keys, one of the few places in the world that to make all of this fantastic stuff was happening. And so we very very quickly and I do some of the TAOs would discusses where we were talking about feeding children and a Olsen run some workshops for them do a little bit of consulting, when they're looking at taking on some new arms of food as well. Okay. That sounds really, really interesting. And although I appreciate the Dulce vote, you know, they probably very supportive of organic produce. What is your opinion on organic foods? Well it's, it's complex. It's not just like watch. So are who very passionately that organic over. She would all bio Ganic also realize that's not reading option or lotta people in even for myself if I ran out of food, take funded that on a to the local shops, I'm is no organic, Iran. He Honey, let us. So aid is really, really makes and one of the questions that you asked me should we go Ganic and the answer to that straightforward, so in well for me it, my by is just in case you hadn't guessed is yes. However, let's if we look at the way that people often think about or getting isn't Monja Tristesse. What happened in about two thousand nine is it was a big measure analysis, pulling all the different research to get that as much as possible pulling in seeing if I could outs that question when they looked at the totality of the evidence and what they were doing is looking at say, heritz, from organic farms in carrots, conventional foams insane is the same man. Bitta carotene of them, which is, you know, the flavonoids that makes them both orange in antioxidant for us and on any amounts of pretty much identical. And when you go through a new. Look at vegetables that way. How much Kelsey MS there in organic Kelvin conventional. Kyle. It will be similar. So you see that the meteors full of this agrees into eight organic. The nutritional differences, really big enough to justify the cost medically wall on. I think it's the wrong question. So there's more going on than just how much carotene in the two charac-. So if you just that simple, one, you come to a bit of a fool stop. But if you step back a little bit, then was somewhat on nothing about twenty fifteen that didn't another metro analysis, but this time that had a group of scientists who spoke a number of different languages. So instead of pulling forty five papers to get heavy with them. They put something along the line to that three hundred papers together because a lot of Ganic founding in Italy has multiple Ganic, farming. Germany. And when they put all of it together, the pitch changed knowing the bid occur tain in the two different types of carrots, but in polyphenyls so polyphenyls things here in the meteoroid atop about one should drink rain today in y you should eight Kyle. And these are these group of anti inflammatory antioxidant chemicals that plots produce almost exclusively to get rid of pests, their, their defense mechanism and the picture. That's emerging is that when you grow these delicate Princess crops, that made the pesticides, the need the nutrients, they need all of his protection they just grow really cold and then not terribly resilient the very, very susceptible to disease. But also, they don't have a lot of the same level of natural antioxidants that the organic food does because the again. Food has to coke. It's out there. It's not gonna get sprayed it, it really has to be more resilient. And also, a lot of organic farmers will grow more Mojaddedi resilient owed varieties of vegetables, that don't need as much pesticide donate, as much socialize. And so when you open the question up, you get you get a slut in different on saw, that's really interesting. Kenny ties a little bit more about, you know, how do you adjust for the different types than off arming practices in different parts of the world though. You know is organic on Ogun grown vegetables from some parts of the cake competitive from parts in Europe. The same can you actually compare? Well, there are some international agreement about the definition of Guinea, and so the soil. SEI Shen organic in the UK is probably the highest standard when you see. So the cessation, you know that whoever's got that labels had to jump through a lot of because contamination ecent just about spraying, the crops contamination Canosa happen is if you put the grain in Asada, this just told some conventional crops, that were sprayed with preservatives, after our harvest to stop them, knowing moldy. So the preservative level is really high on them. You can't put organic grain into those same silos. So the solid says he should tracks food from the farm to shelf, because there are so many potential problems there, there are, there are more things going on in agriculture in simply agai, and one of the dose with discusses that we had is east organic the answer, because there are a lot of people doing transition founding. A lot of people doing sustainable farming and the minute. You trying to calm sustainably? You just can't have the same level of pesticides and, and synthetic fertilizes pitch. Chemical fertilizers on the land, because that in itself is unsustainable. So that's the big thing that in once dissipates are people doing other types of founding, that mainly organic is going to be the most useful must reliable way for you to know that there are low of pesticide residues in the food that you eating on, please. You mentioned bounce sustainability with. It's definitely one of the questions that some families have said, you know, that maybe organic products Bahasa does have a little bit more micronutrients including poetry knows, but is it a sustainable choice because if you'll use different types of pesticides or less, not entirely sure than for the same amount of saw. Oy or, you know, femme farmland. Are you producing less cross the Ness vegetables, and fruits, is that very sustainable choice on this one? This one's easy all man. Is it ever absolutely without doubt? So this is a huge myth so pleased to get much. But it wanted me because, you know what is the truth around this, just you can read, so many Mets around very confusing because you only really mate to muddy the water, you don't even need to win the argument you just need to print doubt in people's friends in so a little it's, it's the same fundamental process that you see with the bitty kerogen in the carrot site. All on this particular year. This intensively Petra chemically found crawl had a higher yield than they so getting crop the if you step back, one of the big problems with the way that we can't the petro chemical crops is something code externalities, so hanging new mid-may for a moment. So, for example, in part of strata a lot of the week cropping has poisoned the river that was once Faye. Famous vote which does impose their dead. Now they will gone if the families who sprayed the crops, that then went into the river had to repair the fields and head to bring the wildlife back to the rebuff, they would never be able to afford it, but it's an externalities then on have to count, that dissipation of this river in Western Australia it any see this again, and again, and again, and once again, going back through strategy where regenerative agriculture is, is a, a very big movement, because, as soil Sapporo in collapse faster with we've lost the Great Barrier, Reef, one of the wonders of the world. And a lot of the reason that would lost it is because of runoff from sugarcane farms into the ocean, now that's hugely debated if you do that. People say, no. No, no. But if you live in closer to the air, you know how much topsoil. From this kind founds onto the Great Barrier Reef, along with the super phosphate. So if, if Fahmi as not just the found his pitcher chemical companies if they had to repair all the damage that they've done. This would been unaffordable way of farming. The next thing long is how long can they sustain that level of crop production? So when you are killing the life in the soil. So the ones disappear the funguses disappeared which do a lot of the. Stimulating growth in the plant you're left with a very small group of bacteria that consume five, the high petrochemical fertilizers pesticides when that soil is dead. What happens is us begin to draw so other time the you start to go backwards and many more and more and more input to get this. One of the reasons that we're beginning to move into jam crops now. So how can you keep growing crops at a surviving? All of this picture can import and these degraded soils. We have something could densification, which is happening. If you look around the world, there's a method is showing previously fertile soil. That's getting food was so all getting losing its talk soil getting cake in hard because of these farming practices, all of that degradation is not counted. The they just say, how much did I get off my field this year compared to you that year when you look at moving into Ganic, farming very often, you've got a regenerator, degraded soil, and that can type three to seven years. And then you crops get big get rich out, it will. Begin to hold and deal with rainfall better. If you've got a heart degraded soil. The rain runs off that in, if you've got heavy play, you need a lot of life in the soil to brag that CLYDE up and get worms into help put more air pockets in the soil, the roots get richer, this just mobile diversity, this more life, and the fondness begin to make more money, because they don't have to buy all of this stuff the earth if got the earth and the water is free, and the sun is free, if they can catch up those X those sort of imports today land with at all the expensive petro chemicals. It becomes richer, a more productive as these along. Now there's not a lot of thumbs in Britain, douse with that have been organically farmed facilities, but song FU poisoned, carols. On climbing rose when her children were tiny and that gave her post thought and the more she looked into it. The most said I don't want my children around these pesticides. So she's been a bit of a pioneer, she's ahead of the curve for a long time. We've got more organic farming in the last few years. And if you digging into it, it's because the foulness became ill, because the price of what drops at the gauge is becoming crushingly high because it doesn't matter how much pesticide they're putting on the crops is still getting attacked by new things because volition snow, they next to a way around these poisons, because we're finding more and more that there are real question marks over being exposed to these petrochemicals, and maybe a few of them should be pulled away. So there are contaminations of crops in America that on in the AU because. Some of these pesticides being banned in the eight year. That's interesting. And what would you say when for say, small farmers who are very conscious about sustainability, but perhaps, you know, they just can't afford to go through that process of Jeevan organic standard, but are still very mindful and us. You know, limited amount of or just enough types of piss designs to grow their crops, and things like that. What would you say about them? Well, I would encourage them to dip the towel into the regenerative agriculture movement. So part of what there's a foundation that douse would has separate from the phone could agriculture an agriculture is set up, specifically to help famous make those decisions and help them through. So, for example, if you thought the cows at don't spit live on every roundabout thirteen years, and the cows in intensive foaming, the pull things they flogged today, than live, a dreadful, dreadful life, a ni- dogs ocean after bet. Threes, and what was five hadn't realized with three gosh? That's very short. Yeah. It's, it's a show miserable. Exhausting laugh for them, and then not at in the open. You know, they want a probably went see feel green under the who's once they get pregnant this time own. And so over time. We end up with quite a lot of milk from these cows over the course of their lives. And. One of them was to get miss starches, and they needed antibiotics that have to be separated from the hood in they no longer organic. If you're a small farmer say, you're smooth Gary foul, what agriculture will do. So put you touch with other organisms, who teach you how to trade that mess starches to that easy antibodies, though, it's a it's a network of the forum to help support farmers through the through the nine through this transition to mow sustainable agriculture and potentially organic studies if I want to batch, and when you can one of the things that lovely about sustainable agriculture, is that once ecosystem on your land gets up and running it canes to become self supporting so as so gets richer, that makes soil jar as the plants get stronger that makes you harvest sped up as plus get. Stronger in the SOGA, Richard. I get more resilient to disease that means that you had list programs. So it's a virtuous cycle. So somebody who's doing sustainable? Agriculture might have state couple of years ahead of them. But eventually, when they crack how they need to foam in nepotism, ecosystem, their life gets easier more rewarding found it's beautiful and also even if they have smaller yields, they will get more money from them it, what customers much to grow that food, and especially if they can get into a native selling Ganic at the farm gate, the no get a higher. The right for what they growing. So it's, it's AB absolutely absolutely. With that wants unambiguous Femy show. And that's a really nice explanation actually what about anyone who's listening to the show. And in thinking, my God, I just call on justified paying the price of organic foods, but based to be really conscious about the environment and would really night to perhaps, the falling vegan lifestyle, for example, but they don't necessarily buy organic fruits and vegetables on this. I mean, I've heard about the what is it did it? He doesn't know the fifteen. Say is don't worry just eight mortgages that organic stock you this will be lovely and may you one day be prosperous enough to buy organic everything. And in the meantime, let's stop you because the big impact that you can have on environment to change is to bias takeaway food, 's to buy less pre precooked microwave foods, the minute that you start cooking Hon. You've already helped the home movement, hugely. So just go for it of what we've a lot of people who have no access at all to Ganic, even if they wanted it, even if they could afford it in like. My the first thing I'd say is I think that the big trick is this discussion at George completely bats in Britain that if you're on a really tight budget you conflict. Mex me wanna rip my hair out because I'm. Area of London, we've got people from Sierra Leon. We've got people from the Congo. We've got the Jamaican community. We've got to be Asian community and a lot of those people, it's usually women would never consider a million by the expensive prepacked meals from supermarket. They buy huge bags of rice. They buy really big bags of things they could harm. It is by orders of magnitude cheetah and also makes any no Mus difference to your carbon footprint as well. So if you are really on a tight budget, we've been convinced that buying the prepacked quick, meals of the cheapest things to do. And not not, I don't, I don't believe that, that's why quite like eat better for less on the tally with people. Eat an show them the different Sidna in the money that this. Pending. No. Absolutely. I mean you can definitely read the benefit of health by having more fruits and vegetables in your diet. Whether it's Ganic or not is just so important set need the survey, the national survey does show that we still on not eating enough of offered in vegetables in the most important thing is washed up that Chaba lls before using it as what about comments like I've seen things on Instagram about, oh, the pesticide is inside the root inside the so washing is only a slower step, what do you think about that? Maybe talking about that. What in this one hundred good find out if anyone stunts work on a night. Okay. Johnson would on this adoptive new and up to that anyway, so he can pad washing vegetables with pesticide residues with a little bit of Leitch in motor, a little bit of Bobby Moshe, and some of those expensive washed pesticides few vegetable veggie wash things. And to my great delight the expensive ones didn't work. I was always a bit dodgy about putting bleach anywhere near you food. Yes. Lucians knows about Toogood. Same out. That a little bit of Baikal patta teaspoon in couple of ages and secular in that. But the other thing that works really well is putting them in a colander running tap water on them. Yes. And you will you mentioned earlier the dirty dozen in the clean fifteen that's from the environmental working group and they're American so bear in mind that there's a lot more leniency with pesticides in America than the reason the EU we've got better Gatien's now. What happens off to Burke, such? Yes, said are not what's anyway. And so some of the particularly some of the pesticides with more question marks over them, a story high in the states, the way that they look at that is with the department of agriculture does tests, but there is a pattern that comes out and vegetables that have a lot of this, like tomatoes, a spray very heavily, and pit and fruit and veggies. That has a very thin skinned can to absorb mopus decides. So, you'll think see things like stroke breeze, and tomatoes are in the dirty dozen that have a lot more pesticides on them. And you see things like ever KADO in cone that come with thick schemes really, really heavily package that corn husk that don't absorb as much as Passats. And so the dirty doesn't the fifteen especially if you're. Leading little children, because we find his decide to everywhere now that in the umbilical cords of on bone children there in the urine of children, there, in the urine of adult said that in the optics, the in the us cats is around the world. Now, even though it spanned, these pesticides everywhere. But with little children U eat dirt. They get a big hitch of them PO body, Hodge, and very often our work with people who feeding their children, allot more fruit and veg than they're eating cells. So if you wanna keep that pesticide load down, it's really worth just googling the environmental working group dirty doesn't claim fifteen it will give you a good sort of rule of thumb full where to spend your money. And if you feeding little once you might spend it on strawberries. You must spend it on tomatoes. The other thing that you can think about too, is a lot of the benefits of these Astill available win frozen and frozen will Ganic fruit is a lot cheaper than fresh and frozen. Organic strawberries could be, you know stood into yoga all sorts of things we want that conscious. Absolutely. I do. Love the prison berries that I always have greater at department in the morning and things that I so Hyundai in the dark. Don't go all that. I go to my house anyway. Because feet within on. But. Yeah. Don't the health benefits of itching, more fruit and veggies? So outweigh going again eight that don't, don't let that an anyway, stock you at all. If you want to cherry pick the dirty dozen clean, fifteen gives you an idea that you can, you know, relax about your non-organic of a cutter toast. If you wanna do that, but placed hundred stock anymore, veggies eighty movies. Again, change on in terms of your health and family cells. So do men in Doug freight. If you con I agree because you can go overboard is new, you can even find tend beans tend you can find tinned anything sometimes of onto, you know, do you really need to go organic everything. Yeah, yeah. In terms of sustainability doom, if you can, but don't the big the big shift, especially where can type two diabetes? The big shift is to get back in the home and to start cooking again from fresh ingredients and I, I work a lot with what I call branded males. So very often, what tends to stop the people that I work with cooking is that I asked too much of themselves in his room perfectionism in nutrition amendment that I think is really not useful. So it doesn't matter how pure you get which the audio pure ensued is already problem. But doesn't matter how pure you get they someone who's a bit more Pugh than you pushy fo that further info that like it's still not good enough. You know of even heard people say all the modern ever cutters bridge, Beechy big, and you need to be eating walled cutters is all DOD. Give me. You get a chase spoon of Advocaat or fish at of that at best and who's going. That you never ever good enough, what she get on his treadmill an I would reading paper to leave that one alone and then seeing about sustainability with Ogun IX, the people who get very, very ill from the pesticides of agriculture workers. And so if you are living in the city, and you think about feeding children, the residues are going to be much, much low of the pesticides exposed. There are papers that show that children that eight organic have less allergies less white problems less risk factors. Full, you know hot disease, type two diabetes later in life. However, we've always had a problem with these big association studies. Just because the two things have been next to each other doesn't mean that because in effect. Yes, that's important to emphasize absurdly am so one of the things that's really high. Hard to separate is very often. The parents who buying organic. It's like a mockup for a whole policies. The really concerned about nutrition them more inclined to be cooking at home that more con- to being middle class, which is the big marker for living longer with less lis-, you'll health, and, but it's interesting because organic isn't necessarily a class thing around the world, but places like Italy. There's a lot more. There's a lot more people just coming seem play and sustainably just because it's cheaper for them. And so they weren't go over to the Pistole sides because at such more expensive. So you've got shot stops in Italy that will. So you ever KADO hearts? I mean artichokes huts, you know. You know, the, you know, the truck stops in America around doing that. So, so providence food, Coccia that yeah. It's, it's just it's just important to really have moved fruit and veg and knock it too concerned about, whether it's getting on not if you kinda photogenic at the moment. Yes, not a great message. There are some ways to get gannet cheap out. If you wanna hit the internet, one of the things that you can do, especially for getting mate. There are differences in the in the animal's fat in organic and gross made this more mega three it's pretty much know that spec to the argument with a bit carotene in the carrots game. However, the amount of the hour questions about the way that we are raising animals at amendment, and I think that Swiss some of the worst abuses, come in and some probably the most worrying thing about the way that we growing animals. We take the the cruelty out of the quickey. How can we do that? But just for argument's sake. Let's take the crew team put it to one side. And look at the amount of antibiotics fifty percent of the world's antibiotics going into animal intensive animal rising, 'cause these animals. Sick miserable, having dreadful lives and the middle one of them gets ill. They all get ill concern random together so anti-biotics, even if they're not prescribed prophylactically to make the animals grow faster, which they are in the states, but not in the EU if you've got intensively found chickens one get sick. You've gotta treat all of them, because it was spread like wildfire. So sometimes on the internet, you find if you've got the room for this, that's an organic farm, you'll so half lab, or something like that chopped up, and you bottle in one bit frozen, and, and the press comes wrought down peculiar. You just think about it differently, gut who found knock it neat closing in start haggling. Puns? If you reading want something new offer to pay for it, and buy a lot of it, and bringing home and freeze, it maybe they'll bring you a box of Kyle and you buy a whole so cross that if you order it in advance bring it home wash. It chopping freeze it and then you've go frozen organic kennel, which is made it into the dirty dozen now, probably because it's now a groovy food and it's become more valuable found as a worrying about knows the popularity of Viga plant based diet, semi Kate is great source of calcium that so yes, it's become really popular kale chips, that are actually. That's an interesting point. You could maybe invite your neighbors and friends to buy launch packs of vegetables than silence. Not net an awful to IFA black as knocker with two really big expensive, some stone round home in lows. That would have cost me six quid H two pounds because they packing up and if you can be flexible, you can drop into the farmer's markets. Sign anything, you want to get rid off, that you deliver type back, and you can buy all sorts of beautiful stuff. That's just that's my bargain-basement tip. And certainly buying over the internet Ifan knows the guaranteed to so that a new willing, maybe to pay a bit of a deposit wait before, or whatever you negotiate with the pharma, and you're willing to yet split the box of free. Some of that you can stop, really, really pulling the prize of organic food. Right right down. That's great tips. Thank you for sharing that bit. I love that. I certainly I've never been a hundred percent. Sure, ballot better. I go again, for the family or not so certain where the girls were very young babies. I did buy a whole bunch of organic fruits and vegetables. But one of the things that I have will consistently buy organic is meat because it wasn't really because of the nutrition profound. It was really more for the cruelty fact. And I always thought that the Okanagan cows in particular day would be treated better in even the free range that you would read I wasn't entirely show. What is free range of just get a robe out of their bond for minute. They get back in stuck with a whole bunch of other council, all old, Ganic cows, getting a lot more outsides base outside day light exposure. What are your thoughts on that to get over gimmick certification? You have to allow the animals to express that are natural tendencies so count to eat gross have to be outside pigs of go to be under route around in have room. You're not allowed to grow animals in varmints in which they're distress. It can't get soil. So defition if these animals are being raised unnaturally, so, you know, one of the reasons that debate, hence is because they basically have the chicken acquitted of a nervous breakdown, and they started checking each other all pulling their own fetters out. So they cut their bigs off. A necessary of extreme distress. And none of that is allowed with organic farming a native anyone's listening to this anywhere near the consuls, you can go and have a look around befall and see how big the area is that the animals will run in and so with the chickens, we've just recently planted about three hundred eighty apple trees because chickens originally jungle birds. And if they've got some trees around them, the Roman little bit further away from that, big luxuries, hen, houses that they've got so chickens pigs. Cows will have to be out to express their natural behaviors to be able to get so association. That sounds pretty amenable with thought that as a as a human when you look at our teeth and compare it to other carnivals, if rely remote similar to carnivals than her. People. So it's it is not all more likely to eat meat. And if you choose to that's up so a fine. But I do say that, if you can afford organic ranch in do that, because I just think animal welfare is really important. Melissa important to me, and I don't want to influence anyone but. Good to be very open now and say, I do epic mate, and chicken when I can because obesity, the supermarket down the road doesn't really stock a big range that's really irritating. So then might end up having more fish in the news. But if college, I love the fact that you can get these delivering what you towards on say supermarket own range of organic. Would you say the standards all quite high? Well, what which will give that there is something cold industrial Ganic? So there are different that are different movements in the organic world. So industrial Ganic will be very much more like an organic an industrial foul. So big machineries, huge fields of, Monaco job Batna pesticides. So the soil will be more allied in those. We're not using anything at the level of education. Make also be thousands and thousands of acres of vegetables, grown with that these pesticides and without unofficial fertilizes widely it. What be the fun that you're thinking of, you know, the conference that we read to children about. Peaks and things like that, this, that's much closer to something like Dowsett is very famous Fum that could police found in America that leads the regenerative agriculture there on what happens in these pharmacies when moving crops around, we moving animals around is big mixed jar of things happening on the phone and the animals apart of what increases the volatility of the soil. What you have industrial agriculture is much something much more close to factory, but without the pissed Assads. And so there are people in the organic movement. I think they should be no industrial organic. I personally my own idea is it's, it's fantastic. Possess hundreds of thousands of acres that don't have pesticides on them and, and the soles not getting his degraded there, but you not often picking up. From from these from these lovely phones. What does drive me completely that when you see these pictures of these happy, beautiful fouls, and they're on top of that they're not real? They're on talk of intend secretary. Animals that have never seen Dhillon. Let alone a happy smiling farmer in the sun. That's dowsett. That's what douse would fuck. What y'all hideous hell factory looks like, but they're the images because I think people would want to eight the mates that sick, when it does nothing that this is the problem that I that I have as well, not just the cruelty, but also the most subtle effects that these fates have in Britain, we tend to fade cows, what they will state's men in the states. Now this being some report that some at even getting candy, you know, out of date out of date in fiction Ray, because you're just making a calculation of calories, in convenient prochaine a what happens to these animals that they, they, they wake. They're very strict. And the gut microbiome changes when they fit grain. So it would really encourage anyone to avoid grinding fed beef because a lot of that modeling that you'll say is inflammation in the muscles. So I suppose my own approach is, I would say closer to they've got the kind of inflammation in heart disease, by the time they getting killed off. They just shouldn't be finished lot that we don't do anything quite as intense in the pay. But. But still, I'm not for intensive agriculture for animals at all. And, and once again, the result of that is huge dumping of one of 'em. Most important valuable medicines like none of us can remember life before antibiotics, but life before anybody was miserable. Expect to lose the life of some of your children from infection, you know, the last God, I gotta ever get penicillin was getting sick to see me from scratching his nose on a row stone, like nobody dies from gardening nets laughable. But if you got a scratch, you got some dirt in it before the energy projects that could well and truly in the end of you. And when looking at more more enter bow to resistance, all the time and a lot of it is coming from animals. So once animals get sick. Let the. Bird that we've had saw when we had saw some really heroic who roic medical style locked themselves in hospital. It was entire Juan and sacrifice themselves to not let that virus fridge. And so, when you haven't had simply raised animals of viruses, in the wild gets into these immune depleted animals spreads like wildfire you earn need. You need some mo- mutations to jump into humans. We are really playing with file really playing with fire growing animals the way that we do Lil on the fact that is just revolting if you care about animals. Yes. And I made 'em trying to convince pap- of I am I am grow organic mayton. Shippen. For many reasons. But again, I don't want to influence anyone. You've got to make these choices for yourself. I mean, we do eat too much red meat and chicken and dogs anyway. So if you are thinking my gaunt on the, you know, the cost of these things are just so high to get it may be that you just have to ease a bit less of these days. I mean to be, you know, children sometimes just a very small portion size of the us, the size of the this use of size of your hand. And this for me children, probably need more than that. And so if you're thinking about buying somebody's organic, free range made Japan than just maybe you might just need to eat less offered all without stopping, don't need to stop. But you could set me have less offset all all around the world people. Have. So had a Bo cap mate. The Chinese have ways of doing it through southeast Asia. I have different reasons doing it through, you know, old through your, we all have these different ways of okay out meet, and now that we've got wealthy and was so removed from the way that the biggest wrong, it's never NFA's on. Yeah. We eat meat like it's a staple grain. There's a large a large piece of meat and the chickens that have been bred to have very large risks. If you have a look at the size of those breasts it twice the size of know palm want, you can Bris truss, not ocean of make so children's snack on mate of school. You know, just. Yeah, it's not a law that this is Nelson approach Verity for us. Now. It's a sign of on by all of potentially lining, SO in children up to not be well, though, there is there's a reason Assad from heavy animals are treated to pull back from that, to a mole traditional way of eighteen and it doesn't have to be unprotected. No, you can add in extra beans to Castro dish with me. If you don't want to buy Ken production, just drive just remember to snoop overnight. And then boy, elicited this take a little bit longer a bit of planning, but do that in the weekend and have a batch offense, which is quite a nice getting around the time. That's right. An consuming pulses associated would dot help. Some will make the whole family bowl resilient drop your process and then you can afford slightly better make and that five base being helpful for sorts of things. The certainly a good idea to include mall plunk foods in your died. Any rate, always say to you don't need to go vegan, but you can have more of the vegetarian days during the week amid free Monday, fishy Mondays is started. Yes, yes, any, any useful resources that you would recommend families. We'd if they decide who that's very thought provoking lighter region at a bit more of that organic foods myself. I would have had a look at the environmental working group, there among that it's American that Stu gives you a really good idea. There is also the solar sociation website. And in terms of maybe finding especially if you're in London heaven, look at something codes community supported agriculture see size and see ascites collective groups started when the. The ice started one, I got involved in the only stages of one in Austria. And there are couple in London, you know, CSI's at what they do reciprocate. You directing contact with the fall, and so your food is much, much cheaper than buying things retail, so this one in any days wanna pick him code Peckham greens. So have the community supported agriculture as well. If you Google that you get allergic for resources and have a look at farmers markets as well. Because the way that some foam is keep himself afloat is selling straight to you, because the supermarkets are incredibly wealthy found going broke. And we're looking at the supermarket shelf thinking, I want to do something sustainable, but I can't afford to I love pharma's Marcus this such a great. Way of getting fresh produce. Donna, give from farm as the absolute end, it's a great way you have a fussy eater. Keep telling my clients taking children to the farmers market, because it's a nice way for them to watch you collecting being out, these different colored brightly colored fruit, Evesham, you get to go home package away chop it up, and then cooked together to great way of addressing children who may be yet to be a food explorer. Can, you know, another woke around maybe wild art, not willing to taste anything the first time? But let some of the market stall holders, we knew children over by handing them bits of apple news. It's not getting up. Someone that maybe they've seen for a couple of Saturdays in a row. And also, it makes food a bit of an out chain up soon, Lutely, absolutely this time to go to a found this market in a supermarket so alread. Thank you so much. That was such an interesting conversation. Make sure I put some of the links to that orders references that you mentioned in the show knows, also, as you now know, I recycle or repair this these putt. 'cause as a blog post Ray people wanted to find out more about you. How can they find you said, just Google name, which is strangely, spelled it's? Raya. R. H. A. Y. A. J O Deion. Semi website, Israel, Jordan dot com, and they can find my dreadful homemade website. I'm sure it's beautiful. I haven't looked at it. If beautiful. Yeah. And getting contact with me by their, the dowsman some fistfuls coming up, which is a summer of love this year. Douse went so feeble, like a lovely day out around a relocate firemen, you can put the children in the back of little. Little thumb to our and they'll be they'll be donkey rides and things like that. So if you're anywhere in needless country, or willing to go to the west country day, have a look at the dose with website as well. That sounds fantastic. Thanks for tuning in, and hope you found the chat on organic foods really helpful. 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#104 Double Down To Dominate
"Good day fellows. Welcome back to uncensored advice for men. My name's josh. I'm your host of the show and You know you guys myself included. We have questions about life about sex relationships. Belief systems work money leadership and place that we go to. That's not going to give watered down advice. Oh what i do. Is i take all the questions that i have in that my audience has and i go around asking advice on on our behalf and then i record the conversations so sometimes the advice is not not kind sometimes the advice. It's tough sometimes. The advice is challenging. Sometimes the advice is is a paradigm of the way we think and do things so That's what this show is for So if you have questions if you need advice on something head on over to uncensored advice for men dot com fill out the form. And i'll go find some advice for you right so on. Today's show we're gonna have a returning champion and returning guest one of my friends vernon Welcome back to show me jazz. Do thank you thank you. Thank everyone for listening again appreciate it. So why don't you tell us a little bit about what you what you want to share with us today. You know and thank you for you to get a space to say that It's we've all had a tough year so tough not necessarily meaning that we weren't successful insert rounds but we've had a lot of adjustments to make this italy's right and it's a see so many people are just like almost shellshock about what happened to twenty twenty. It's kind of getting people to the place where hesitating not really playing full outright now into twenty twenty one and twenty twenty one is going to get them the playful out almost putting the power into like the the easter versus putting the power back into yourself. And it's talking about we gotta get after it right now in a nodes difficult for some people. I know we all have a lot of reasons that we could play small but we gotta find reasons. Create some reasons or just different perspectives. So you can double down so you can and will dominate. Twenty twenty one. The of and they're on. Yeah see. I like this man. And i looked at it this way is. I did a charity boxing. Match one time. And i went up against guy. Who's much better than me. He was being a professional boxer but it was for charity and such in round one buildings within ten seconds. I got hit hard rice stars. And i'm like what did i sign up for. But for that first round. I was hesitant to go in because i just got hit hard and after that first bell rang and i had time to sit with my coach. He said josh. You're holding back if you do that you're going to get knocked the f. out right. He's he's like you're going to die. You know unless you bring it to them. So how how do you like. Is that what you're seeing in terms of like holding back in terms of like like not moving forward like where are you putting your power where you put any focus. Is that what you're seeing here. That's the perfect analogy. Because think what you just said like. Nobody wants to get hurt right like. That's an instinctual thing it's like. Hey look at this guy just knocked me out ten seconds. This is what he did right. So it's natural to feel that you need to feel that keeps you alive now. The problem is just like your coach pointing out that. If you keep doing that you are not going to win that reactions expected. That's what you're supposed to do. That's what's gonna happen but those next steps those are up to you and that's what's ordered to have kind of the extra noise just like your coach was to say you can't do this if you expect to win. You can't do this if you expect that. You know jeevan showwe you can. But that was a beautiful analogy to it. Yeah now. I have a coach. I've actually coaches advisors mentors that external voice because in this scenario i got hit hard right. We can talk about in the in the ring. I got hit hard and i saw stars. I couldn't see straight. My eyes started swollen shut from the first ten seconds. I mean that tells you guys how great of a boxer i am or how good this guy was even see straight in life. How does that happen where we hit. We don't see straight like give us some examples so it could be. Let's just say this question because there's so many things that kinda hit us and sometimes it's emotionally on and that's some some depending on the person on the worst like it could be a break-up it could be a situation relationship you never expected to happen good bad or different whatever may be and that can throw you off balance it can be something happens in your job. You'll be all of a sudden you go from forty hour down fifteen hours. It could be something. In terms of your spirituality. A lot of were not able to go to our churches to go to our. You know religious centers where we wanted to get connection there. And when we get that the ground that so unsettled underneath of us it can make a start to see stars and we just want to kind of curl a ball right that the fetal position on most entrepreneurs there's so many buyer dynamics have changed worked in december twenty nineteen is not working in december. Twenty twenty you're seeing stars and i get it. I completely understand it. Trust me it happened to me for a couple of months. The biggest thing that i want to impose impressed upon everybody is we all experienced it. That's what makes this great right because it wasn't just you villain everybody out yet. So this is the perfect time now. We're all seeing stars. You can get ahead just because some people are still going to be planned small. Because they're still seeing stars right right right. Yeah i mean i. I was in what happened to me. Is i saw stars in held back financially. Okay i know how much i have in the bank. I don't wanna lose. Started gripping onto the money i cut out some of my Business development you know. Because i have a team of people that helped me with those things and then what happened. I look at my pipeline. Drives up right it disappears pulling back was something that i had to go. Okay i gotta move through the fear. I got to reinvest in my own pipeline. I gotta reinvest in my own business. I gotta and now scary for me man. How do i. How does someone like knee overcome that. Or what advice you have for guys go okay. I just got hit hard. I'm seeing stars. But i know i got to press forward like what advice there. How do we do that. We actually just said the answer. It's one of the biggest things that are landau in a really understood in grasp the power collaboration. It's when a mentioned earlier that we're all going through it right so right now. All of us are in a shared experience. that is making a stars. This is when it's important to start leaning on people. You're great at this. i'm grated. That how can we forces not necessarily going to business together but utilize one another. See both benefit kind. Quid pro quo. And it's it's important to bring people into your world and you go into other people's world. I just i don't want to do it alone and i think this year really showed me how much i need to lean on people. I need you to reach out to people and you know what two weeks ago. A text josh. Hey can you help me out. And i can't. I can say for certain a couple of years ago. I would not have done. That is good quickly. But it's it's really to lean on people like net lean on and you know go wild woe is me but let people know where you are and see what you both can come up with an you do the same for them. You might not be able to help them or you might not be able to give them a different perspective which might know someone they can right right and all right so you said a couple of years ago. Like texting like josh. I've got a question on you know you're on lincoln and you're good at this podcast and stuff in this right. So it's very specific like can you help me. What's your advice. And i spit back some information. But you said you know a couple of years ago you would not have done that y a thank. You necessarily good question. It's when i started off and it's gonna shamir experience. It was more me for me by me with me which just meaning right like my family. Don't get me wrong but it's just it's just almost siloed myself. Maybe more than a couple years on average down. But i know i would not have reached out at some point and asylum. Myself in many ways for various reasons burned a few times. I've gotten poor advice. Or just you know just things happen right and it made me not want to reach out or ask you know in. This case wasn't help Big thing here is just led me. People know like josh. You're great in that. this is where i'm at. You know. I wouldn't have done that because again. I'm just kind of siloed myself. Yeah now you've been burnt right knee too right. So i've i've a journal write that. If you look at it you be like oh my gosh it sounds like you're you're sounds like you're whining josh right but like i've been burnt a lot. I've been hurt a lot and everything it's been around people if if it wasn't for people or money would be super simple in boring right but like a lot of my being. Burnt has been through relationships people. I love trust people that i had high expectations right. So that for wild that put me into isolation and i remember what followed isolation for me was anxiety which i had anxiety tacked for the first time in my life. And i'm like what the hell's this. I having a heart attack. I can't breathe. You know like. I always look down on people because of you know like oh you having anxiety meant toughen up right you toughen up and then i had depression later when i went through some some major life pits but that led from. I got burnt. I went into isolation followed by followed by you sending zaidi for a long time or fear failures or failures and turned into depression. And do it. I went into a fast. It took a long time to dig out. How do we prevent ourselves from going through that cycle. That i went through. I think it's you know the first unit for me is understanding and sharing so people can understand that. There's nothing wrong with your not week. Organism is doing what it needs to do to protect itself when it's a threat and oftentimes when we have those moments when we're having those spaces we don't talk about it. 'cause you don't want people to think poor you think lsu So talking more talking about him being very upfront and honest you know. A lot of my 'isolation also needed add. This came from the fact that you know the way to raise the way that i grew up. I just saw a lot of pain. Went through a lot of pain so they're already had kinda That it's all about me. But i need to protect me couple with you know some business decisions at headed on better with done better. So that kind of you know calm became this amalgam of isolation but after we talk about after becoming aware of it. It's literally put it into the positive too many times. We think that you we feel that we make bad decisions. We make some decisions or things happen to us and we think that you know there's something wrong with us. There is something bad's going to happen to us I hope it will make a mistake again. When you put yourself into that kind of negative protect myself as is gonna shut down and but put into the positive is recognized. And i'm not the first one experience this. I can't wait to talk to some others who've experienced this so they can learn from them in. Also this is you know for me. I look at it especially now like this. Is the price of education beer. Entre nous entrepreneur. This is the education. So i can learn teach because oftentimes as many teachers out there who never experienced some things in they speak on it. And this makes you kinda get your your phd and experience life circumstances right. Yeah so as as a coach right. So you're you're coach. What what do you specifically help help guys with. This is chauffeur guy so you might help guys and gals but like specifically for guys like how do you guys. I think necessarily good questions. Well too many. And i was just having a conversation with a buddy of mine about this. It's confidence and understanding. What confidence is in recognizing. What confidence is not alvin talking with a friend of mine and he really got super brogan amazon each other for a couple years and he said nothing have a confidence problem very successful real estate. You know bright guy dislike laughing. I was like what makes you have a confidence problem. He was like well. Whenever i start something. I just you know i kind of hesitate and play bag plea. I don't go allow us all my resources. And you know he kind of went into this kind of self diagnosis there. And i just let him know. Hey can i give my spin on it. And he said yeah in leno's You don't have a confidence problem confident. People don't start businesses confident people. The uncomfortable is confident people don't go up. He has a beautiful family and started beautiful. Family like this. I just let them know it's like you just need to work We all need encouragement and many men. Especially i've worked with think that because they need someone because it's it's so our when i gossip is you got this. Hey that's a really good decision. How they can change but were needing that or requesting asking for that is a sign of poor confidence in. It's not that is not a confidence thing. So oftentimes this kind of shifting a paradigm on. What confidence isn't what it is not. We all need encouragement. Everybody does i need it. Okay so this is. This is a great. I love when paradigm shift. Because i just told my wife this today. I said i find. I'm spending more time unwinding bad thinking in learning new thinking. I spend more time doing that than i feel like. I'm doing anything else. And maybe it's the season or whatever so all right so what. What does real confidence look like. And what does what. What is the of that. What's the anti confidence what you know. Give us give us some examples so we can kind of self diagnose as you're talking to us we could go okay. Maybe that's me. Maybe this maybe that's not me i. It's when you don't even act and when the energy gets low coach the person who had who was unconscious didn't who didn't have low energy. The failure to act for me is a big once he signed but almost Kind of a one of indicators another song for confidences back. That's the biggest one like we all have the thoughts where we don't think we're good enough. We don't think we're poor rich enough. We don't think we're handsome enough. We know we just don't think we're enough but when you don't act that's Confidence start showing up for me. That's when i start recommended some things because you know confident people. They might not have all the information but they steal action do it wrong but they still go into action. You could call that bullish. You can hollywood ever but they still are making those The making no steps but the biggest thing. I'm always looking for this sound. Like antibody just recognize like we all experiences where he just failed to act. And that's just really sean out to make my buddy. I mentioned earlier. He did these things and yes. He needed some encouragement to continue inserted at different ventures. But he was still doing the big vans doing for me or not going. Okay got it. So that for us listening in psych. How long has that whatever fill in the blank. Been up on your to do list or your desire lewis. I want to write a book. I want to build a business. I wanna buy new x invest in this or you know asked that girl on a date or whatever the case may be right so how long been sitting on your thing and you keep pushing it back like is that. Is that a good indicator if you might be needed boost of competence or some encouragement yes Even for myself like this year. I assume never read a book culinary book and deep down you know on a truth heroes like no one can write a book right. That's what i was kinda thinking and that's where that kind of a lack of confidence is there for me. It just wasn't there. And i'm very confident person i however i am human right and what happened was just said they thought about it. I've been thinking about for the last couple of years coming up with these excuses in a friend of mine just said something like go. Write a book. And i needed that literature book day but my point is is just like sometimes you need to believe in someone's belief in in that could be a game changer. That's why i'm so adamant about the environment that create in that Protect my people mind virement because those are the people who can breathe life back in. Breathe life into you and you back into them. Well well all right. You just said something. I want to recap this repeat. This is you'd needed to believe in someone's belief in new right so All right let's just say i don't believe in myself. Is it possible that i could just believe in the other person's belief for me. Is that what. You're saying absolutely all right. Explain that unpack bro. God you so there's things are. Perception is limited right. You need a mirror to see your back. You can't see everything about yourself and as many things in you know one you will not see. I did not see that. I was a teacher. I did not see that. I had an impact with with the way that i kind of show up. I did not see it. Because i presume to myself image abilities and qualities that i had didn't exist i was the ugly fat shortcake who would never amount to anything but someone believed in me and i believe that person because i knew they met no meanwhile harm. Now when you start believing someone's belief and you've got a person in your life who has nothing to gain for you being more successful. You being more energetic you being more charismatic for you being more of a man and for you standing up for yourself whatever. It may be when you have that and you know you can feel it. You might not say cognitively which you can feel it in your body. Like i believe them. You know it's kind of like when you're coach said that to you if you keep playing if you keep doing this you're gonna lose you believe in his belief it's about that transfer trust happens. There's people in life that you just know it could be a stranger. That's what happened with me a train. A stranger said something something. I might have thought when i have those dreams. You know you out if you have had those dreams right where you're the football star john maclean dot hard. You are never the bystander. You are the hero you have. That quiet thought everyone has marketable. You are we all had it but when someone can see that in you all of a sudden it's a game changer. This is why you have to have people in your life. Who see things notice things about you that you might not even be aware of all right so here. Let let let's play game. I've got two directions and you get to choose direction. We go down with us right so this this idea of you know being being the hero right in and stepping into your your dream right. So that's option a or option. B you get to choose is the false confidence right. What's what's false confidence. Look like for while i was operating in false confidence in and we can unpack that which which which direction you wanna go and i like also confidence because i feel that something. Don't talk about enough all right. Let's unpack pack it man. Go for balls felton's so with false confidence it's I am not a big believer. That i'm just not an like. They can give people falsehood of success. I believe i believe in believed until you make it. I'm not gonna fake anything. I'm going to believe it's going to happen. And i feel like sometimes in my from my perspective is False confidence can get people to a place in life where they can feel lost. Nfl's confidence and get to a place where people start believing that the have imposter syndrome. Because he never planned on gdn it. Wow all right. So i i received some kind of show in having you know once you start building a little bit of an audience and people start giving you feedback. Sometimes it hurts. It feels like a kick in the nuts sometime. I got this feedback from an investor. You know soldiers company for one hundred million dollars or whatever and then he was giving me some feedback because we were doing a project together and he goes is like. Hey josh how you doing man to be honest. Dude i got. I got humiliated. And i had to humble myself and i walked through some of my failures. Recent failures you know. I had to do this and i had to do this. I had to pivot i. You know i had to go through some major life. Resets and i said well this what i'm working on some of these things. Are you know way beyond me but you know these are the small things that i'm working on now and i'm getting traction. And after the chat he goes to you know josh. Let me give you some feedback. Go here comes right. He goes when i first met you. I was like man. This guy's talented. But what an arrogant ass you were. And i was like man. I thought i was always a good dude and that i had good aspirations and that i was pushing hard and you know but you know i. I had this arrogance about me rather than true competence and that for me i had to really learn what that is but maybe i don't fully know it yet. But what's the difference between that aired arrogance incompetence. What does what does that. Look like before i address that. Can i tell you what i would have said. Yeah please. I have told him. I reject that. Wow okay go for it okay. That's a limited relation like just to say this because people often you hear this l. arrogant thing and even from known you right. You're an indian guy like you have a approach about you have a way that's connected with people in this and that's this when it comes in please. Can i be very directly. I say this man you got you got. I mean we're we're recording and we're working what make sure it's it when you know who you are. People can't tell you who you are. I'm not saying that you're perfect. The it's someone when they used to sell area would bother me. Because i can talk to anybody. I will talk to anybody. I talked to everybody. I talked too much. My son copies being toxic. Because i talked to so much when people say things like that. They're asking something they want something from you. And they're not asking it so someone would say you're arrogant. I would say. Walk me through arrogant. let's say that again else. Walk me through okay. And i would ask them that. Because like you need to elaborate on that and eventually you'll get to the point where recognized. Why just want you to talk to anymore but you did. I just wanted to understand. Why are you so confident about some things that you might not even be aware of. It could be something of that. Nature die immediately rejected. I've had many people. Say things to me that i just. I literally say that. It was like i i reject that or then. I'll say something more passive dependent on circumstance. I might say Of what does that do for you who you mind blown. Here is a lot of times people's feedback or advice for you is because they want something from you and to be honest you know like that may be in this situation where so and so wanted me to maybe invest in their business or you know help them build something or go hunting for them. Yes and that's when people say things like that it's like i think they mean well but they're going about it in a way that does not save me and i'm not playing that game because what can happen is you will go and self analyze and sit back and start thinking about. What did you do wrong. What you're gonna do done differently when a smart capable person not saying that he isn't but this is just helpful for other people smart capable. People do not walk up. Do not engage in. Say things like that. I would never say that to someone and it's not just because of the just my way but how does it help someone. Tell me how the hell why josh. I really like you know. It's really nice getting to know you. I had no idea when i met you. You just so quiet When i first met you you just so blank. That's what that's that's the way the you strategic. That's how you engage with someone. That's not a cotton but yeah i. I can't stand what people do things like that. all right. so here's here's one of the challenges i have in. I would attribute this to to maybe lower confidence. And maybe you can help me through this. And i know this happens to a lot of dudes right so that situation. Someone says something. Someone does something and right. I think we're trained over time to just accept what people say right. Don't argue with me. Don't whatever shows just like. I might have been trained to just go okay. Here's an older guy. He successful whatever he says is truth rather than question it or rather to go is truth is this not and i just accepted it as okay must be true. How do i get to the place where i could go. Hey man i reject that or walk me through this or you know even just even just get the. How do i get to that point in confidence where i could go. Maybe what this person saying is not true. How do i develop that skill in that. Confidence is a really good question. It's you know. Because i was where i struggled with especially at the beginning and even circumstances which are talking about someone who might be you know respective were successful their respective rome but it's using the kind and caring language. Thank you for your feedback. Hey good to now remember that for next time. Don't engage that person not trying to have a conversation as the conflict And also people can pick up on things in an most of them are conscious of it will often town some successful persons. That's how they got to where they are because they use this type of manipulation by the way home on people because it makes people play small. And if you're playing small. I can get ahead of you And so the understanding is they're not trying to save speak ill people but just give people an understanding but it's you know back to kind care language. It's you know. Thank you so much for your feedback. I never really considered that. Thank you and you just kinda don't engage with do not because sometimes it's not going to be the best thing for for you to say average that i tend to be a little bold just because i did let people know a map elena game with you. I'm not. I'm a nice guy. But that's nice doesn't mean silly foolish or not doing that but start with the kind and care language. Thank you for your feedback will take care of that on the next thing Is to use a very a question. That could be slightly confrontational If you want to engage it's when you ask them you know. Walk me through arrogance with your boss. I would not do that with your wife. I would not do that with anybody that you have a relationship with. But if you feel that it of the circumstances the right ask a question. That's not confrontational. But it really gets them to explain his practice. Practice practice practice. Thank you for your feedback. Wow this really this eye opening thank you all right bro- where can we go to get that kind of practice right so. There's so many scenarios. As i look back in my life and i was i was a firefighter medic. I wrestled alligators right i. I was a really good wrestler. Did you jitsu and fighting. Like i'm a tough guy. Consider myself a tough guy. But i have buckled under conflict right conflict. You put gloves on. Were fighting. I could roll around on punch. Someone kicks someone on something right. I could do those things but in terms of verbal conflict. I'm like i can't just punch this guy. I buckle under a lot that the verbal conflict in and i feel that i'm weak in verbal conflict. So where's a place where a guy like me can start to practice because you like okay. You need to practice okay where practice that with my wife with my like. Where can i go to practice something like that. You hit it right on the nose. It's I i want to make sure getting that. I wanted to let you know that no one starts off the end The middle ju jitsu jujitsu expert right like you have to practice it. But it's so practice with some of her family. Believe it or not because it often starts people do that when they feel safe with you when they say things like that because they wouldn't do it if it didn't feel safe and oftentimes it can be family. Could be family in our remember for me. I got a very early education on boundaries and rejection. What things. I will not accept because of my family. They would say some things to me. You know very blunt be used to call me. The on the whitest black is you. Call me oriole family. And i would just say things like what does it do for you. And it's oftentimes it's just being with your family and you do it in a very kind way but it starting with your family. Yeah yeah i like that. What does that do for you all right. So let's unpack this right so someone is being aggressive or someone is doing that like what does that do for you. Like in honesty. What does that do for. Why would your family call you. The whitest black guy oreo. What's in it for them. Why would they do that for me. The it's it's sitting back and realizing what questions are they asking that they haven't got to yet and what they were saying was bernie. Speak very well and your educated. You remind me of someone who's going to be successful. That's what they said. The what have they will use it. When andrew gets low the first thing people do is they become a bid critical judge mental and. That's what the understanding kicks in the time. I didn't quite understand about you. Know not more educated more practice. I see it so when she was once you understand you know how you you gets once you understand what's happening. Hey they want something from me when they say things hurt me you start looking at it as from trying to attack me to understand me. In in when people are critical of others most of the time in my opinion most most of the time it comes from a an area of insecurity or insecurity is usually expressed through critical or judgmental. Is that is that right am i. Am i right to think that for me. it's When the organism gets tired when organism doesn't understand when organism has low energy. that's it gets critical in judge mental. In most cases it comes out some form of attack because they don't get it so yes relates to which was going by insecurity. Wow okay for me. I'm getting to the place. And maybe evolving where people could say stuff on online or linked in or they can you know say stuff as walking on the or whatever right and in the in the past i would engage or i would. I would like think about what they were saying. It would bother me until i resulted. I'm getting to the place now where they can do stuff and they can say whatever and i go i. I think i'm getting to the place where i was like. I'll cool. hey thanks for pointing out. I'll take it right and just like rolls off my shoulder so like i just. I think i'm realizing that what they're saying has nothing to do with me. It very little to do with me but okay all right. So as i'm evolving in growing in my confidence like what what do you think is my next level or my next place or the guys the guys listening and what's our next thing that we should be practicing growing in in in re in regards to our our confidence what what are your thoughts in. How can you help them. Thank for us to civically. It's stop hold him back. It's sometimes there's gonna be a stop going back okay And when i say hold him back as we could analyze anything to know for ten days. Twenty s thirty days. But it doesn't change the fact if you wanna get a bicep curl the rates right right. Just ain't gonna happen. I mean you can sit back and understand what e- century action is uncertain. But it doesn't change you gotta call the weights and sometimes we gotta get him and for all of us. It's the same exact thing. I'm all about doing some research. I'm all about you know a nice educated decision but at some point. Nothing's going to change. If you don't do anything different that's gonna push closer with confidence. it's practice. that's what confidence is. It's a practice of understand that if you continue in persist and as you continue take an action persistent taken an action. You will figure it out because we're smart educated people. It didn't work what didn't work. Who can you talk to the did work for didn't work out bet or some great. That didn't work. You talk to that person. What's the next step you. i'm a found somebody else. But it's consistent persistence. That will build your confidence to the next level because when people say doesn't bother you Guitar behind me right now. I don't even know how to play guitar but in give me four weeks. 'cause i am going to be consistently persistent. The some people might say well. That's really arrogant. That's really this or whatever they might say we check a really care less but no one can deny persistent with consistent out strategic action will build your confidence faster than anything. Yeah so you know just talking with you here. I found that this has been helpful. And just being able to talk about like little things and get that immediate feedback. Hey this is what you have said in that situation. Do in your coaching practice. Do you have a place where guys like me can have a conversation with you or in a group or something like that where we can get those reps in where we could practice we go. Hey man here's a scenario. I'm going through. Can i can i. Can we talk through. it can walk through it. Can we practice actually talk to us about that. So this would in. This started back. And gosh march moore kind of go into lockdown and all that. I was trying to figure out what to do. You know. i'm a speaker. Guess what you ain't speaking a lot of events cancel reschedule. Just oh my god. That was a significant impact. My income about away. These very real and i said what the heck am i going to do and i would just you know kind of bang my head against the wall just looking and what came out of it was i sat back and i said people i know what valuable and came out of that was own your happiness and it's a six week. It's a six week class. That i lead and one of the weeks all we do or actually always talk about boundaries and a role play as it never fails in full class. Generally most of the time will have twenty dollars thirty in rome. Somebody will ask a question because people tend to be shy. Now bring a couple scenarios in the some. Most of the call has three hours because people ask so many questions. I try to make myself available and people ask things just like you said just like you brought up and say hey you could say something like this now. It happened in everyone who's listening it kind of fills up your q. With things that you can say to people. And i'm always like bringing the real stuff talk about what your wife stay on. Your brother said which on said so. I can make sure that you're not going to arm you with a way to strategically diffuse people but with those two weeks. I think those are the those are of my favorite weeks. Because i see more golf than anything and i think another thing happens Prices doing boundaries. Is it something everyone struggles with. Everybody and so people are like. I didn't know. I could say that. All i thought about that way and then i kinda give the understanding as to why you say these things. Yeah well i. I definitely know that talking through coaches and thank god man. I learned about podcast in a long time ago. Because i get to talk to coach all the time. Get that kind of immediate external voice that feedback right the box external coaches. You gotta get back. You gotta do this. I'm so thankful that. I have this but you know for the guys in the audience. Who don't have this kind of interaction with someone like you work. They find a way to work with you. Get into that program and get external feedback spend some time with you and with other dudes that are going through life. Challenges like work. Where could they find more information about you so fast. Definitely go to my website. Whose i'm about to start on friday boot camp on double down the dominate on. It's also going to have information about own your happiness and that is going to be a six week class lots of fun lots education dumb but all the information website you can also find me on facebook and facebook dot com slash. What you're happy and also in lincoln. Okay cool you know. Do you mind if we share these links in the show notes says people are listening. They absolutely thank you cou. So final question is what what questions should. I have asked that i didn't ask. I completely missed the mark. Regards to yourself with regards to what we talked about. Either one you pick you. Pick the route i would say for listeners is how do you determine a safe person to talk to you about some. Your circumstances are problems. I think it's okay so then pretend i ask you. That question are smart enough to ask know because it's like it's great that you know. Oh god i need to talk to people but you need to be able to identify. Pay attention to what people talk about that. The big one. Like if you notice that. Seth every time we talked to him. He's talking about other people's business that doesn't sound like he should be sharing it or replace same. Seth picking metrics random name by the way. If seth or anybody else in the south. Don't talk to anybody and be careful sharing what you share with people who talk about who you don't know how to shut the mouth also check in with yourself there some people when you get around them you get a feeling it might not be a bad feeling but you get a feeling and that's not with everybody just some person you'll say something's not right and i don't feel like talking about certain things listen to it. That is your gut that your intuition. You need to listen to that And a glass. It's just going be use commonsense release commonsense if you start telling someone who might not have experienced a lot of life the way that you have the not going to be very helpful in kinda give us some feedback or it can be helpful to talk but if you're looking for solutions tend to go to people who've been through it before i think. Yeah yeah that's good. I like it man. That your self and trusting your gut like. There's some people that i hang out with and man. I liked them. But i find myself that i'm either not me when i'm around them or afterwards i'm exhausted and i'm just like man i. I thought i really aspired to be like them there. But something is man. I'm tired or my lap or i'm frustrated or angry. Wow that's good. that's good right. Well that's probably another another interview another conversation another topic but a man vernon thank you for coming back on the show man. You're superstar. Thank you for sharing your your heart with us Dudes listening into this show as always reach out to our guests. Go to the show notes reach out to our guests and say thank you let like be a man of action and be men of gratitude ghodse. Thank you and manifests you. If you're lacking some confidence if you need help finding your happiness if you need help in an external voice to to put the reps in to help you build that confidence reach out to vernon and say. I need help. How can i get that help. Right by their programs join their programs. 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I dunno celine dion or beyond say and they're like sewing that song and don't change anything about it so for them to teach the audience to like. Okay just be open minded and come explore with us on this different version of the song that the same time i think to myself. Do they feel the pressure. Like i'd be pressured like oh man we gotta lay a different way or they go with yard. Just go with it. I wouldn't feel the pressure. I think with them. It's really about the again. The energy from the crowd and then they've been playing together for so many years that it's a you know when you watch them we i 'cause it's cove ed Workouts touring which they they brought you know they web stream live all the shows. Just we'll just webcast and we'll be on our couch and watching the shows which is great because you get a lot of tight shots of watching the interplay between pointing at different things. They're doing different things and they've been incorporating new stuff you know. They're they're drummer. Has a sal mixer and machine. Now he's never had on tour before and so even they are still continuing to evolve and interact with each other. They're also really known for these huge multi day festivals. That they do where you go and you camp out and you get multiple shows in a row and you get to go in and listen to sound check and they had the largest gathering for the millennium actually down on an alligator alley big. Cyprus in florida drew and i were there for that and Yeah the largest gathering for the millennium was What's a fish concert. In the middle of the swamps in florida on indigenous land. It was wild really wild. Tie really amazing but yeah. They're kind of known for this. Like i said it's about the experience about the community about the culture so it's been been worldwide and he's doing podcast about it with with my good friend money. How did that come about how did you. How did you lenny come together to create this. Like how did you even discover that you know. Was it something. That leads a lenny and you just discovered. Oh i like fishing. Oh i like fish. Wait a minute like say yeah. We may lenny's administer and he does a lot of faith organizing a so. We met through that world of organizing faith communities. And then you know. I don't know either posted a picture from a shower. He wanted a picture or our tickets. Came in the mail and i posted them or something and he was like wait. A second. you like fish. I'll say wait a minute. You like fish and it was sort of this wall holy shit like two black people that have so much in common and we like fish. It was just too much and so two years ago. There was this podcast called long. May they run. Which was about fish. Ten episode season about the history of the band talked about a lot of different aspects of it and it was a great podcast. But it was ho fucking white. I mean like i mean really really and so we were talking about this on twitter just like yeah great great podcast but like where were the black people where the people of color. Where are the people of the global majority exist in texas show and so i just started like tweeting about it. I was like yeah man. Fish should pay us and just sponsor show for us to talk about the experience as a as a black fan and you know this general connection between jam band culture especially talk about prior to fish. You grateful dead and the scene haight ashbury in in california's san francisco which was really about like mutual aid and care for each other and how their significant ties between those concepts and black liberation. The work that and i do now and so we have been. You know literally just compensating and tweeting about it and This this guy Jay curley from ben and jerry's follows me and he hit me up and say hey. I'll pull over here we to do this for you. Let's let's talk that here. We are now. Pr was really excited to come. And produce then ben and jerry's stepped into finance this whole thing and give us a lot of support as well so shut out to both of them and yes that that's that's the tale from literally from a tweet to I beat of a podcast. Pretty exciting and his world and it's the way so when things open up that you'll be able to see more black people like hey this is. This is one way to gather all hanging on the people of color but yeah they coming out of the woodwork. Like my dm's are full of black folks that are like i didn't know there were more people like me and this morning i did Interview with f. o. Bella who's like a hair and beauty And the day that the pockets got. Now she jumped. It's my dmz. we've you know we've followed for a while. Like i a fucking story to tell literally like i have a story. I have a fish story and so it's been great for united be able to provide a platform and she said i've never told anybody. This story was ever talked about it anywhere. Because why would i air about it or who would who what. What venue do i work in. That would think this is something that they wanted to tell him. I actually talked with her this morning. Spent about twenty minutes having a conversation about her story and So we've been doing been a lot of that. We have a phone line. People can call. We've been getting a lot of phone calls from people just saying like yeah over that the nashville show and everybody was so cool there and different things. That's been really great. It's pretty tight. I'm gonna listen to fish. I i need to so as they as a newbie of fish. And i and i have not listened to any of their music so i am excited about this podcast and i feel like this. Podcast is going to be a great introduction as a person of color as a black person to discover who they are and start listening. What would you say. Where do i start. Where do we start in terms of getting into the fishbowl bowl. See how i did that. Fish out when i think of like a date or a time in your life that was significant and then go and listen to some live shows from that time period bass when anybody asked me like there was a. There isn't a good starting place right. There isn't like okay. This is what you should listen to. I but i always. I tried to tell people to do that. You know they got married or you had your first child or when something significant happens to you and you can go back and go to fish dot net. They have archive of every show that they've ever played and then you can download the music and listen. Yeah do do it that way. I think you'll i like to do that because you can have in your mind where you were and then kind of connect that to what they were playing at the. That's what i suggest when people are like how do i get into fish Bring your yeah. Yeah they do. They do have some studio albums and you can you know go on whatever spotify or title whatever those but their their lives shit is where the real magic is so that that's my suggestion. That's cool presbury. That is very cool. Who who are we. What kind of conversation to that Listeners will expect with this with this podcast. What are they looking for to here. Yeah i mean we're gonna we're gonna get into a whole bunch of stuff we're gonna talk about like those connections between jam band culture black liberation. How some of these foundational concepts of mutual aid or connected to each other. We're going to talk about the experience of being a black van. Um a lot of times. I get asked like almost every show i go to. It's just my first show We are lenny gets asked if he security you know things like In some of the not so great stuff And also talk about you know this aspect of like. What does it mean to be able to white privilege one show at a time. And what does that feel like to simultaneously feel extremely free but also just outside those gates. Your people are being oppressed. So we're gonna get into all the good the bad the blissful the ugly all of the above and it's gonna be. It's going to be a fun ride. Well i hope that are they. I guess i am curious. Are they aware about this about you. Guys creating this. Have you heard anything from the band. Have they hinted that they're like oh thanks to create japan. Yes notified the bands of our and and and that the show is coming on and we're hopeful to get one of the members come on for our last episodes being good wives out there yet. Gingras cross from that prosper that dumb. Yeah we i. I can't imagine they don't know about the show or at this. Point is a lot of coverage and a lot of people have been talking about within the small jam band community and It's it's just a different take. There's a lot of fish podcasts. A lot of shows that talk about jam bands but none from this particular perspective and this particular slant so i think it'll be interesting Trae in the midst of all this upheaval here in the united states. He did some shows that the new york city that he just streamed and he said black lives matter on on. Stage causes huge ruckus. He's never done that before. They tend to when you listen to your show. They almost don't say anything like great. Thank you thanks guys like. That's the most you'll really get funny. Show little jokes communique. No yeah like inbetween songs. They're not like having a conversation. 'cause mostly they're trying to play off each other and now it's like okay. What was mike. Just playing okay. I'm gonna jump on that or oh page. Seems like he wants to play this song. Go that direction. It's very much about that. And they're having today. Anything it was it was kind of a big within the faithful and So i'm interested to see what their responses it'll be. I don't know we'll see we'll see what happens. Well one of the things. I learned from like you know. Understanding of this podcast coming up is jammed bans. I've never heard that term before. Can you explain that for me. I hear jam band. it's like. is it like jazz. Because he's specially he's playing off of each other. What's the like what is jammed bands. And what's the difference. You would think from jam band two jazz or is it some or are they closely similar. I think they're similar in the improvisational nature but jazz a specific genre of music than this is something very different so a jam band is is basically a band that thrives off of the improvisational a back-and-forth nature of music with each other with the people that are playing with There's like this running joke lake. You never stop the jam. It just fizzles out but that's sort of like you know. Slowly people peel themselves off and then the jam is over and so yeah so. It's a lot about that. It's about getting musically to a place where you're all kind of harmony. Together things are elevating elevating. You'd get to a crescendo. And then kind of like peter off into the next version happens and that's that's sort of. Yeah it's it's a lot of that. It's a lot of that kind of mike's yeah well. I hope that you get one of the bands to to be. I'm putting it out there. Good vibes that they come. And then i'd love to know the questions like why do you know what the end i love it. So it's coming so it's launching August thirty first. The s august thirty first episode one airs ten episodes. So they'll be where we go. No internet search blackberry Fans or blackberry jams the on solar blackberry fans p. h. a. n. s. and Yeah it's the receptions been really great and we've gotten just like mad covered variety add we rolling stone it's been a bit a whirlwind to just see the interest in it and And i've been working really hard. We've got six out of the ten episodes already in the can so hard at work at this for really long time. It's been a big secret to keep japan really hard. 'cause we've been working and awesome like doing this very secretly you like behind the scenes and i'm glad that we at least now we get to talk about it and i don't have to be silent about it and i can imagine i'm excited. I can't wait to listen to it. August thirty first. Everyone go follow on all of however you listen to podcasts. At podcast spotify. Google podcast itcher. You name it Definitely follow now. Subscribe now on our favorite podcasts player. So you hear the first episode. Drop august thirty first. Yep yep yep yep. I know my homework will start listening to some fish before the episode. Yeah you you have to tell me what you think i will. I will also you know other. I'll email you guys our. I'll text you guys a couple. My favorite shows cool perfect perfect perfect. Well let's go into the news. Shall we okay. I'm not sure if we're going to hear this audio but we'll give berko knees news news news what do they lillies did news is bad. Baby so lebanon right now is going through it. I mean. I was just talking throughout the week about all the things that's been happening. Now we're on seventy two hours from haiti ghanistan and now lebanon where They had a few leaks. Peel explosion in lebanon. That killed twenty folks. Now what's happening is Food and fuel shortages shortages are happening in in the country. It's it's It's creating because of lack of fuel hospitals resources lack of resources it's affecting hospitals. Because not having you will strategy that some people use her some like armies or or governments would use to create chaos. And i i know that lebanon had protests around the same segments. Eighty two just before What happened with the prime minister. Right and i know that it was like human Humanitarian humanitarian there. We go Related protests and for me. I'm like So the people are pro that protested about a year and a half ago because of the way the government is running shit. It was because of that. It was government related government bad government. And now you'll if going now like like so. They're i think they're discovering that there are. Oh that's what it was that there was like ponzi scheme lake ways or the way that they were running the country that they were like ponzi type of stuff eruptions that were happening within the government that creates for this whole lack of fuel now and not surprised So prayers to lebanon I hope that. I know that there's a lot of relief. That is going on for lebanon right. Now i'll see if i could find some information and then shared on twitter but purrs with limit lebanon. And and we'll see what happens and with what's going on with With the country Big big purse to them you know jamaica has a lot of lebanese immigrants there so for lebanon lebanon. It was actually called syria and There was a huge amount of immigration from syria to jamaica. one wine. i. I did my twenty three and me and i have like a lot of lebanese Dna because of this. Because my grandmother's side of the family comes from the immigrants. So i've been thinking about that along mama seriously. Okay okay go ahead. Yeah no no. I just i. I've been reading a lot of the news about it. And of course you know what happens when these humanitarian crisis crisis happen is that the the global powers just start using it like a ping pong ball and so that's what i've been really watching and paying attention to hezbollah sending oil and then the us other one has bullets send the oil. And it's like these are people we're not talking in abstract anymore The global news and local news. It's just been so overwhelming. I have to say it's been really disheartening. I've been trying to tell people to you. Know get get themselves together. Spiritually like internally because these outside influences are really doing a number on all of us right now. It's really hard to see the good. You know we're talking about my little podcast and i. I really haven't been able to truly be happy or excited about it to be to be frank I've enjoyed making it. But i haven't hasn't touched me because everything just seems awful right now. and what makes it off and i totally feel you like i. You have these moment. I would say since the beginning of pandemic it's like what's frustrating is to see the people who have influenced politicians basically not doing having route. They're totally removed on the humanity aspects of running things. And that's the frustrating part about it. You know it's like completely thinking about pocket and not thinking about people right anticipate really like not being shaped like there. There's no like they're not indian barrister about it. That's the fuck ary of it all and it's like when you like. I'm not too sure about the specific that's happening in. What i do. Know is most of those conflicts or proxy wars. Yeah they're funded by like huge empires like the us russia. You know places like this that are just like funding money to people who are they could or could not be fighting for the right or wrong reasons but they know they have to fight in their killing each other. Yeah yeah everybody else is just finding them and standing back. Yeah yeah wow as wild is while it is. We have a redefinition have a global election of leadership and it's frustrating. You know really feeling what you were just saying shelley because you all ask to lead no no. Nobody forced you leader that you wanted to lead. So fucking leave your. I'm just so tired of this like lazy approach to leadership where you just sit back and don't really do anything. It's really only acceptable for politicians. It's wiles actually even. Ceo's have people even if it's not the right people they have to answer to their shareholders at some point or like you're not doing shit you no no it's just you know. Politics is is a is just a mess mess and that has to change on my god. I'm glad you said that. About like even ceo's because the board members will places accountability on them when they're running amok running wild and in politics or the people will boycott something. I mean there are ways to kind of influence just because of capitalism and how money works but with these fucking elected officials. You know they don't term limits. Don't have any reason to to really do anything other than continue collecting money from wherever they're collecting money from and we don't even ask for their resume compared to like you fucking in a resume you know what i mean like if i want to open a bank account i gotta you know show my tax returns you gotta show you know income or whatever but them no you know yeah in other news. Only the only fans is seeking basically They are. I think as of october thirty first though october i i mean only fans will prohibit the posting of any content khanate containing sexually explicit explicit conduct in order to ensure the long term sustainability of the platform antony continue to host an inclusive community of creators. And wait a minute. I thought they were so popular because of all the adult content on there are yeah they are they are. What are they doing like. Why would they make this hard. Turn like that well. They're seeing that because they're trying to get more money like get some money from banks and funding venture capital and stuff like that. These banks are like they were already super-rich why they wanna get even super super rich like they want to get more. Richard you wanna get richer. Create a sister company that uses the same technology but that doesn't allow adults stuff what they are saying they're banning porn the banks and the people that they're getting money from are asking them to. I think it's because the people making all that money because the flow of money. Nobody's paying those taxes. I think that's what it's about. That's the thing about only fans is that the you do pay taxes on the money Because you have to report it. They get a portion of the money that you make on only fans at all of it gets reported. It's actually a very legitimate Source of income for lots of people specifically sex workers. Here's the thing though this is this is. I'm an read a few things. One one shot up to ryan can. Who's a really amazing creator. You can follow them on tape. Talking ryan can acts on twitter but they said if this is true every move. The company makes from this point four. We'll have been financed by the sex workers. They have ripped off yet again by a company. Sex workers pay for that take a new content direction. Sex works paid. Sex work paid for that as well. And there is like this pattern whether we talking about back page or name of that one where they stopped allowing like escorts to Put their ads in there. This was a couple of years ago and showed two aunts. want hardy. Who said only fans did the old media tradition get. Black people slash underrated folks. Make your platform popular. Y'all get white corporate attention than cash out and ban or restrict the former group. This is a a row something we've seen over and over and over again and this war against sex work is just. It's so offensive to me on so many levels and But take taking it to discipline because only vans one of those places where it was eighth. Yes yes beef waiver and make money and this is. It's awful and it's just so sad to see. Yeah they're trying to use the excuse or or the reason. One of the reasoning was. Because they don't want like you know by having you know porn on on Only fans that it would they wanna make sure that. There's no minors right. But it's like there's there's ways there's so many technology and things like that that you can do checks that you can check for this stuff these reasons you're saying that they're saying just don't make sense because word that shift come from jimmy like yeah you profited off all this. Yeah and then you're just gonna ditch all the people that. Wow yeah. Wow yeah and so a lot of the like you said like off of the backs of sex workers a lot of Creators are feeling betrayed. You know like it's I'm hoping that someone or a group of people who had who who knows how to like basically that they create An only fans type of platform but that will be Not only safe to continue to be safer sex workers but as also the technology to make sure none of that doesn't make sense my brain that they're trying to make it palatable for a customer base that was never involved with them in the first place. Yeah yeah well. It's coming from a payout providers banking partners. We saw this with the legalization of marijuana here in the united states. Where you know colorado's a first date to be legal but they weren't allowed to do banking so you. Now you're talking about cash only businesses with like safe civil runny Getting you know putting themselves at risk because they had to do everything in cash and now that you know all the way people are starting to make money off of it now. You see banks being like okay. Let's start to let them put their money in our bank now and so it's the same kind of like repetitive thing. You know the only fans of the hundred and thirty million users two million creators. they've earned over five billion dollars on the platform. So yeah i mean this is. This is just devastating multiple friends. Who make you know. Make their living only fans. And i just. This is just devastating and really awful and also going to make the work. They do less safe for them and for the people that interact with all this inspires garbage another developer to come through with something that will cater to that demographic because clearly there is a billion dollar industry. There's a need for it. There is definitely a need and only fan has already proven that they're traitors out there accessible at it exactly so if you know anyone who's a developer your idea every everybody wins except the fans. Create your own to make it the guy exactly. Yeah exactly man. I wish i knew how to do. Computer science coding right now. I thought you're gonna say man. I wish i knew how to get naked camera. There's been many a dame like let's just start an idea for one. Do only fans cheers the. Because i don't want nobody to this idea. But we i almost was like maybe i should do some lake. I was considering. I launch subscriber right here. Oh man but yeah so. That's that really really sucks and say only fans. I mean we saw this. Tumbler banned pornography. Who the fuck uses tumbler now. Literally they tanked their entire company and allow a payment processor dictate. Morality is the peak capitalism. I'm thinking not to. Because i was like you know i was listening to you. Know this news related to this. And i was thinking like it's fucking sex like it's not a big deal but i bet you feel guns. No problem banks would be like. Oh we're making billions and billions of dollars in violence and guns. Your no stipulations whatsoever. Here you go. I thought i heard like youtube was going to stop having videos showing like how guns taken apart and how to build them and shit like that and i think so but you still see them. How did you check. Yeah why are people so afraid of saxe. I don't think the most natural thing in the world i don't know and Last piece of news is how dare you make nio meal. Soko cried hut when you told me that that headline kind of what you told me i was like who is trash enough to do that. She's like the nicest person on the planet right now. I have a video. I'm going to scan play clips zeke. Here how this also. Yeah you're gonna have to your resume. It sounds working to zoom call. Baby muted we'd i do. I need to me now. No we don't preserved surly interesting. Because i have to turn on my computer pa in order to play the clip. So i think i to send you the clip okay. It'll be a wild than senator computer on. Yeah unless unless it to be continued leslie. We'll have you back and let's leslie plays the clip You the clip. I don't know if it'll work. I do my kodak. I doubt actually yeah. Okay me gone facebook right now. I haven't beats while it's coming up though. I do want to say while. We're waiting for the clip. I'll do here about naomi stock. You know so when we listen to the clip and and talk about this story. I wa- folks who really put in their mind. You know what happened at at the french open this year. Yep and how she didn't wanna do press and the way she was treated for taking the stand on. It's like they had to prove her. Right right. When i when i when i listen to this clip and i read. I read the story and everything. I thought to myself off. So they really. Y'all just felt the need to prove that she was right all along and it's like way to show that she was right from jump street your trash exactly like i thought the same thing to like. She expressed on how much you know it. It sucks because there are so many talented people like herself who all these years had to kind of push through it and and and she has just because of the toxic environment. Who's putting pressure on them to push through. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah like not. Just athletes artists musicians who friends. You know what i mean. Everything who just like wants to do create their music. I think people like kurt cobain. Who what time should i start at the very beginning. Yeah there might be some advertisement or something. But i think people like that imagine if the culture created to say. Hey kurt You don't have to do these. Press junkets just keep doing your music and you know we'll figure a way that maybe it's just one on one interviews of audible or just magazine still. You don't people don't even have to like see you hear you write They could just read what you need to say. It's just. I think about talented people like that who've been pressured for years like to deal with media and let alone toxic media like that. Yeah yeah my question. I guess was you also have outside interests beyond tennis that are served by having the platform that the media presents. You my my question. Do you think you might be able to best balance to. I can't really help that. There are some things that i tweet or something that i say that kind of create a lot of news articles or things. Like that and i know that it's because i've won a couple grand slams And i've gotten to do a lot of press conferences. These things happen on also say like i. I'm not really sure how to balance the two. Like i'm figuring out at the same time as you are i would say reporter who participate. Wow yeah wow yeah like so a excuse me I'd like to know how come you feel. You don't need to push through the pressure of me being a total dick. Yeah yeah there's more there's more than that clip for more you keep playing. This is from canada. Somebody else sir. Yeah that's why asked a couple of tennis questions The first one is just How the training has been how your preparation has been for the for the summer. Hard court swing and the second one. Is julie your tweet over the weekend Related to what's on in damages calm and and yet Just what your reaction is to the news there. Thank you home sorry. No you're super good okay. I think we're just gonna take a quick break just yes crying. Oh gosh. this is where she's like. Russia leaves. Now yeah the the thing is it's like she's express on how much the the pressure and she does not like media. You know everybody. That's why people have publicist. Sometimes you just can't handle. They're not media. People just want to do their work. The most toxic elements of of media are the ones that approach it. Like you have all this fame. You have all this money you owe your time. You know what i mean and how dare you like like how would not grant us access to you as soon as we want it because you have all everything that you want. I don't you wouldn't be where you are if it wasn't for us covering you like rats the value though if we ignored you It's this mingo shit. Yeah and let alone like just the everything plus you know. She has family in the eighty. There's that that during the time that she's trying to push she's trying to make money right now in order to help support eighty with with You know she's playing as well. It's it's just all of these layers that just totally was like. Oh and he came down to watch people cry. Yeah yeah especially. When it's from his words. Yeah what do you think. Do you think that leslie that there should be where we need to kind of. Look at going by what the athletes want if they can handle media if if not then find different ways to help to bring attention to what they do but by their own terms if you got a guy that's like willie beamon sorry. I'm just gonna jump in the beginning. I like willie beamon and he wants to be in front of the press. Put in there really be from Every given sunday she fox but tina movie but yeah like the arrogant loans that once. I can't hear lesley's correct so sorry. Go ahead leslie no i. I think that there's a lot of things at play here. Yes for sure i think. The athletes and performers in any public person should be able to dictate the terms under which they went arrest. Because they're human beings but separate from that. I think something really specific about the tennis press. World is at one very small. Very small number of people that could cover the tennis circuit and they're largely white and male and older. Okay so what we're watching is a group of people who are used to holding so much power seeing their power diminished because now these athletes are taking their power back for themselves and their fighting against it. Just like we're seeing this the whitelash all around the world to challenge us to white supremacy culture. It's the same thing that's happening here. You know these same people have been covering tennis for the last thirty years and they're horrible and and i say this across the board. I will punch chris ever in the face. If i ever see that bitch hallway somewhere. I'm not getting. She's a fucking racist. She's a racist every time she's commentating on any bats that any non white players playing in everything she says is racist every approach. She has his racist. It's because she's allowed to do it right. So that's the same thing that's in the press kind of like circuit of tennis because tennis if you remember. This is a this. Is the white sports super golf. Not supposed to be there and they all been asaka of the world are not supposed to be you know excelling at ten gymnastic the same watching live this backlash to non white people Excelling in these sports. That are not supposed to be for them. But the other side of this of the commentators the coaches all the people that used to hold power. Those shifts have not happened yet. And what we're watching. Play out in real time. And what what's heartbreaking to me is that naomi she's been very transparent about why she doesn't want to do press about the kind of press that has has pushed to her limits and she's not afraid to just fucking pull out of your bullshit tournaments so this is something that the that this entire sport is going to have to reckon with moving forward. What she's done is she said a line in the sand. Simone biles has done the same. And you know and serena williams. I liked a reference or because she didn't have the opportunity or the the the the backing to to be able to say i'm gonna pull out or because what would be said. She's washed up. She can't hack as she. All of this stuff. Raise raise young people. These babies these young people. They don't give a fuck about you what you think about them. They're very secure within themselves. Averse secure in the team that they have put around them to support them right man. We're watching in real time a backlash to them taking back their own power. It's old magical. It's amazing it's magical and it's like it's like a rollercoaster of emotion. Because as you're seeing that with you know mentioning these names like nihil miyasaka and simone biles as their pleasing the line in the sand. It's also amazing to see that. It's giving permission to mother athletes. Any athletes doesn't matter their culture their background. Or whatever saying like yeah. I didn't i didn't need to do that. I didn't need to sacrifice literally like my life in order to do another flip in order for for the country and i. I'm i'm thinking of self here. You know so many people that think that you know these celebrities. Athletes are town to people need to kowtow to them bingo themselves zone. Yeah that's ridiculous. Shot up to the young folks teaching us old heads like you know. Sit the fuck down. Shut the fuck shop. Do me yup. And i'm going to do what's best for me. That's the lesson you know. I'm going to do what's best for me this whole regardless of the other shit and this toxic system you got going on your show the ultimate leveraging privilege. It's like we talk about white people leveraging privileged. They never do these. These young women of color lock women are actually leveraging their privilege ways that are going to that are already earthshaking. Did not the segue simone biles but simone. She didn't even wanna compete in this olympics in the first place. She said i did it. Because if i didn't go i would be the last survivor of larry. Nassar dr larry nassar who molested all of the. Us gymnastics associated with trigger warning If i did not compete in the tokyo olympics there would be no one there and they could just sweep it under the rug and never talk about it. Wow gosh he's the last competing survivor and she. I owed it to the rest of these survivors to not just walk away. Because i can compete. I am the fucking bass. I'm the goat. And so i'm going to go and i'm going to push myself and i'm going to go when it's not safe. I'm not gonna do anymore. But i decided to go to tokyo because they because of my presence alone. They can't sleep this shit under the rug. Just because i'm there they can't do it then. They win gold anyways. Yes yeah yeah. She walked on their team. Whatever yeah whatever yeah. That's it for the news. Yoho amazing got thanks. That's great news. Yeah oh thank you thank you leslie. Only we need to have you back man backpack deck. I like the new ones alright. Y'all got your bibles ready So bob you and this is the part of the podcast right show shirley you the listener and leslie are awesome. Guessed what. I've read in the bible so far imperative by trying to make it sound all aids all right so last time we heard about data being declared king of judah and we heard about tissue chef being declared king of israel we heard about twenty four soldiers. Playing stabby is together and the beef between judah and israel okay so tonight The players are is is chef. Abner messengers and something about that issue is hardest. Needs a few Practise rentals all right so tonight. We're continuing with the second book of samuel chapter three and i call this one. I got something to show you. Okay all right so we've heard from black and open on a slow motion montage of david. Who's having playtime with all his kids. We also seeing the montage. That david has a total of six kids by six individual mothers. Wait what do you think correct. Okay we also find out that between the house of saul and the house of david never really stopped and was ongoing for a long time. We find out that the house of david was growing strong while the house of saul was kind of fizzling out So we abner who is trying to come up with Come up with a trip up with ways to get more clout in the house of saul and suddenly ishmael chef. The king of israel barges in on solid is all like fab unsal. Yeah that's all dead. No you're right casses who we talking billions. Sorry about that. i'm the abner. okay. I've nur's like captain correct. Tell me why you tell me. You didn't bump ugliest with my dad's side piece is made abner superman mad and he was all like you need to get back off me son because so all that other shit i did for. This house means nothing now. I get it even though. I've given david on a silver platter. You're going to lie on me about one of saul's tricks but let's drop. I'm going to go over to david's camp and make sure the prophecy of him taking over all of israel comes true. How about that. If god is a problem we can deal with me personally. Now move out of my way which ish chef was terrified at this point and he moved out of that way so we cut to abner atvs messenger meeting with david and avenue. Messenger was kind of worried and it was like a avenue. Wants you to know that he hates bush and is totally team david now he wants to make a deal with you to help you be the king of israel so data was happy with this and was like this is great. Tell abner i'll meet with him. But only if he brings sol's daughter macau macau is also a sister supposedly. He was engaged to be married to her From having given salt one hundred four skins. Well yeah that's the price of a bright so and skins as in fourth can't just the skin on a tip of the penis. Yes okay yes. So abner tells chef macau and because it is terrified of abner. He orders her to be taken from her husband. Patio and now patio couldn't stand what was happening. And he's following his wife. She was being taken away and he was like crying like super hard. And once they got to a place called they've got all the way to a place called by Abner was fed up with crying and it was all like he's only get the fuck outta here with all that crying and shit. So patio was so scared that he turned around and left then cut to abner meeting with his elders of israel. And he's trying to get them to declare david to be the king instead of ispra and was all like. I'm just saying what everybody is already thinking. And i promise to fight israel against all its enemies to the death if i have to. Then we cut to abner. Who's rolling twenty deep when he meets with. David and david is all guys. You're just in time for the feast. I made it just for you. So abner was flattered but really focused and it was all like. Wow you really went all out. But i really shouldn't party while i'm on duty. Let's get you in control of israel. I then we can party so wait. Abner is betraying each chef correct. Well and he's not really betraying told us like. I'm okay so david wasn't about to say no and all that and was like a fair enough me gobi. Great the party can wait. So abner leaves and So here so abner leaves. david's nephew. Job was also commander in david's arms giovanelli and so he was walking to the party as abner was leaving with his so then job he hears about the conversation between david abner and was not pleased and he was like what deflected. I just see david. You just let abner come through here like this. Can you see. He's playing us so jobs. Storms out of party room and sends a messenger to bring back abner to heaven so once jobin abner sideshow other and we're close in the job gestured to abner and they gestured to them that they need like a like a private space to share those secret or something and since aberdeen know what was happening. He just followed job law so once. Joe felt that they were alone. He pulled out a knife and stabbed abner under the fifth rib and whispered in atvs era like this is for killing my brother. How shirt course so a little later on we cut the david finding out about what job did to abner and he was not pleased and it was all like who told him to do that. This is all his fault. And i hope that everyone in his family pays for killing abner and that they get diseases and they're really gross and painful. I hope they all suffered from beijing and all kinds of bad shit seriously. Who told him to do that then. David looks everyone involved and was like oh and you can bid you're all going to address funeral and you'll be wearing nothing but burlap sex so cut david and he's picking up his lyre again and he decides to sing a song for abner and it was such a sad song that made everyone cry. Then everyone could see. David was super sad at this point and tried their best to get him to eat some food but david was too upset to eat and it was all like leave me alone brand and hope god kills me if i eat any before. This goes down. So the bible tells us at this point that david was above reproach with the israeli people and they recognized atvs. Death was not data's fault. David at this point declared himself to be as being anointed king over israel but is overwhelmed by his nephews behavior and his all just like god started this whole mess. Abso fucking done. That's it that's the end of the jeter okay and Let's see Fun bible facts. Site known as the tomb of abner is located not far from the cave of the patriarchs hebron and receives visitors throughout the year. Jobs name is a derivative of galway and means y'all as father. Okay according to wikipedia observant jews and those who follow talmudic jewish traditions do not pronounce are say out loud the name your way but instead they will replace it with different turns like a donor. I which means my lord and elohim which actually means gods plural but is used in a singular way and the term husham which means the name in everyday speech is also used a substitute avenues. Dead so next time we'll hear more about a couple of seasons get executed and some more juicy decapitations god has a messy house. I wonder how we think jobs. And then you captain. Captain efficient the same track. Ooh fast and donate donate badly. That's buchanan a way we learn about the second of samuel chapter three. 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H-Hours Leading Minds #6 Paul Gudonis senior executive manager and former Royal Signals officer
"Hello this is an episode of h- h hours leading minds series. The leading minds series was initially a completely separate podcast. I started as a pilot during the pandemic in twenty twenty The first bunch of episodes all done via online interview so we one of the online video interview platforms on a series where i conduct a structured interview with successful leaders from either a military background sporting background. A business background or combination of all three after the the initial pilot episodes of being released which is going to listen to you now. I will continue on with the series interviewing new people on kyw hiv havana. So sipek listening or stand up. Whatever you're doing and enjoy this episode of hr leading minds it's got this poll on his poll is entrepreneurial executive business lead with vast experience in the telecoms industry and he is a trustee on volunteer with react zest response and also form a commission in the british army. I could see i make you take. He got ali ali flag. The background is straight into Your time in the military military career on since you've left new civilian life civilian career. What's your most memorable leadership position on. Why a lot different reasons than being very mem- memorable i think. Probably my first proper leadership position as a troop commander into six parties even scored because it was real kind of crucible. If you like point where you turn up not being a soldier so new pupils opinions were officers and whatever else and i was determined not to make some of those same mistakes as other officers made jeff blokes jobs at the last minute and those types of things and it became very clear to me quite quickly that those other stuff's inevitable. It doesn't matter what your intentions is. Just how you actually manage it at a particular time that it happens while than trying to stop it from happening. We did Some of those. The first tools Afghanistan iraq and it was like it was just. I remember what felt like such a long period of time in into one six With such a learning experience from start to finish good and bad and there was a lot by there as well That eight stuck with me for a long time and still today. I think back to some of the leaders. I had again both good and bad and some of the people that i worked with and the stall. You have two adult where you've got much more experienced people that on paper wet for you but you've got to draw on experience from them. You gotta really suckle that information in and process it and understand when you need to kind of jump in and this in in a situation when you don't you need to enable things to to play out. They are stuck with me then throughout my career will the base through to the president of a business unit of eighty people. The hundred thirty million dollars revenue Ways knowing that jeevan is anita information out those people that have got the experience in the the training to be able to get you in the right direction. Not trying to just do all your cell phone time. So probably that that i wanted to six much memorable was was when you in terms of your relationship with the people you're with site with the appears as an officer was the fact that you I'd serves as ronca was a hindrance or help in june on the personal relationships appears. I think it's definitely a hope for sure. It's definitely how because. I mean just lot of things i knew i knew a lot on that kind of the blacks and i knew a lot of the The little still at practices and a new and people are generally trying to is. It's kind of a good thing. Sometimes you letting those things like by 'cause 'cause she just is just funny and it's good for the team. Whatever but you know the times you know when you can stump on it but yeah definitely definitely helped me And that's not to say though that It didn't it wasn't always a positive thing. Sometimes it's a negative. Sometimes you come across people that you met before the it worked with his peers knitting quite get that balance right And sometimes cause issues on a in a workspace of the outside of the workspace never an issue but sometimes there's a way to play the game and not so over over all over your time then as an adult thing and leading what what. What did you get wrong. We'll stick she something. Got wrong coming again. Loads of loads of examples about but there's one theme that stuck being some of the things that i regret the most not not necessarily regret but some of the things i would have done differently about culture And where whether it's again people that i've worked for all people. Mit we'll my peers that It hasn't sat right with me and thought you know what culture this is not good for the team. It's not good for the direction of business but that didn't do a good job. They're selling for example. There's always a good one salesman is doing a Is doing a good job hitting the number especially on the park with the way they do. It is always very positive or boss. Who is taking things in the right direction and leading the business to growth but not necessarily doing it in the right way again damaging the culture of alway-. There's always been times where i can recollect saying this is wrong. I should do something about it. And then not and letting it slide forbid thinking actually you know the business doing good for business let it slide for bit and it's always got to the point where that first instinct that it was wrong and so it has to be done as always being right and i've always had to do something done line. They've always had to leave or to raise the issue or whatever else and so in but by that point in some cases it's potentially impacted other people in your team it's had a longer term impact on the cultural the morale of a group. And it's and so really. It is something i've learned from. That is that it doesn't matter how good someone is out that function in that particular goal with an engineer salesperson mocking staff finance. Whatever else if the way in which they do it does not support the culture of the organization the behaviors or those things. It's not worth it definitely. It's an interesting interesting point. Sending the i think the probably i'll maybe of the the reluctance to deal with an issue. Straightway in that regard not situation you're talking about it's really. It's very easy easy. See an acknowledge shorter accomplishments. The salesperson hitting the numbers sell sell sound. So it's really difficult to then turn around and try and save them a script but it's also wrong because you're trying to explain a longer to a longer term so softer thing especially around culture and growing out. It's hard to communicate that the importance of of need to change the way they're doing it but still it's a different way. They're not comfortable to you. Know to the long term goal and for everyone's benefit not just as to achieve the aim under culture and consciously obscene culture. Probably the probably one of the most longest tubes most difficult things you can do or attempt but you could destroy it so quickly and so easily. It's like you build you build it and you build. It takes a long time to get it in place but fan one decision that is counter to that from the got. The from the guard at the top is difficult to then get it back on track. It's not impossible. Obviously you can do it. But it doesn't it doesn't impact if if you're going to if you're going to choose to be working with a team which is a week team but at a strong leader all it was a strong team with a weekly which would which would you choose i does. It's difficult question. I think the the. I think i think that people can be developed and so i think that if if there's a strong leaders obviously always good working for someone is a good leader is always a is always opposed to thing and qadhafi bring the team up but leadership isn't about the leader necessarily. It's about that whole team. So leadership can be for me individual contributor all the way through to Yeah the single sales personal president does installations on on site or whatever it may be not necessarily the leader so i think actually working with a strong team will they were they With a negative leader would be my preference as long as you can. As long as you can influence developed that leader if that leader themself is an open to to developing then probably wouldn't joined i if i inherited it. I'll be looking for somewhere else to go if you know what i mean. So it's a it's a tough question. I think that. I think i would always be poverty. Dome team But as a leader. I don't i wouldn't mind developing a week team potentially because i think that can be done the answers questions. Mix across the board fifty sixty people answer. But i agree with you on not point of the development of the team. It's i mean it should be just slightly slightly states. The question should always be via aspirations leader. I think is to wherever you inherit as a team or department. Whatever is to look to where you can take them. You get a quote a comment. But i'm not going to paraphrase icon the quote something along the lines of leadership quality. It should be not to be afraid of having people in your team. The betty the better than you. You should aspire flop definitely in People off we you you broke. You broke you broke. I lost i lost you. I lost since you started talking. What you're saying. I think that. I think that you see a lot of people who are scared of people that are potentially have more experienced than them or A flying that ladder faster than they are potentially but definitely you're white if you you abuse a leader. They're not only take you in the right direction. I've been successful because of the strengthened. My team because of any particular experts in myself In and that is where. I think that the key for the leaders just bring that team together and get the most out of them rather than trying to be. The best person at to talk about. Old times is unachievable. We you know. It's like you met the people in in the team that we used to. I used to be a poverty. Eight though is incredible engineers. That i'll never know as much by engineering credible marketing people. I've never noticed much marketing as any of them. But it was my team and see and in in that aspect it. It definitely will develop me. I learned more about engineering and marketing and sales and all of those things finance and project management. Whatever else from other people that seem rather than being the best already leader. yeah. I'm well aspect. The person lights as the most negative impact on what you do professionally what you wanna do professionally. And i manage it and jimmy. You found his expectations. You yeah. I think personally And i don't know where this comes from. I don't know if it's a factor of quite often started. Coordinated bomb joined left school without qualifications. I joined the army. As a soldier commissioned later with maybe imposter syndrome impassively something that i definitely struggled with and i've a lot of public speaking even now when when i go to do public speaking i've i've nerves nervous and have like ways of controlling it breathing exercises or whatever else but you go onto a stage of four five hundred people and i'm thinking that you just going to screw it up and i've never screwed it up but it's still bad about your mind and so i think personally that's one of the biggest things are struggle with An actually it can be it can be quite negative and it can put you in a bit of a dock space sometimes that if you let it get too much if you question yourself too much in those situations and that kind of a negative impact at home And i think that in terms of expectations from that among very lucky and he's very supportive my kids at great. The you know the good kids but sometimes you come hi. You're absolutely snappy and or you're short tempered and you know that it's wrong but you still thinking about things going on in work and it's sometimes hard to be present in that particular moment and that's something that definitely needs to be conscious of because i definitely can get sucked deep into the work. Put that before other things. Thinking is doing the right thing for my company went out. She has no say. I think that's probably the biggest personally but yeah that's interesting. I you know something i i. I've become more aware of of more conscious of that. Switch switching off from work to personally and the importance of it. And i actually from you one of the people who so impressed army not when i was with a massage on the important switch it off because for that one. That reason is the way you the way you communicate with family wants the to matt it. We charge much to go back. And i just signed site deliberately tickets. Step away for an hour. You know flipping to our injured in the work in day off an hour away. Come away and stuff like into it. So we've found goes off you know. That's it done famously. I come back. I'm going ten times the speed and productivity whilst before thirty strange very strange. But it's hard to. It's hard to show people that shopping in stop. Stop what you're doing kabbah. Yeah it is. It didn't chest and to see where the all new normal is like and the whole working from home. Peace at the moment. I have been volunteering. react formally team movie calling for ten weeks now and what can his liaison officer. Most that's been working from chips. Go me volunteers on task or whatever else. I've absolutely loved it. I loved of lover when you start to establish the ways of working to that you can get quiet time. We get space it. I've been no less productive than i than i would have been in office. In fact in cases probably significantly more productive So as interesting. I'm hoping that new normal out people get that balance between family and You know you need to again. Need to budget in. What way is interesting to see how things develop post in a post cova weld. Yeah definitely i found with it that this certain times of data to me doing certain things so i know i if i got up on a on getting a laptop if i know i need to. Let's say shed you a call. It's like a brainstorming thing. Needs to be created. I won't i will. I will do try and do that for as late in the day is trying to get your day because i know in the morning. Brains isn't firing creative creativity creativity. We'll tell you fine creativity creative but in the morning i am good is organization so yeah just just just generally around that you know going through stuff the logical thought process and i saw i. I knew and before reading things a few years ago. The brain is more creative night. I'm more logical thinking the morning which was rather phrased sleep on comes from but only until this situation whatever it would be forced to repeatedly remote. It's shown itself properly to me. Okay i see so. Because i'm quite happy to defer some stuff to too late in the evening after work and i was because i know i'm better doing it and i'll just i'll take the arts can take that i'll us myself extended lunch break on. 'cause i'm not gonna look in the evening or the other one is a brain. Do something through six thirty in the morning. And i'm thinking about email do it now. Just get on dirt now because it's very very rare you bring you bring into position actually wants to work. It needs to do you. Should try is a good op. Cool pregnant dot fm. It plays Place one for meditation one for light work fare. Deep work and creativity whistle stuff went from high founder useful especially with kids. Plugged in with wisconsin Efforts and the way it plays music stimulates brain hysteria way. Left or right after it. After i it means you can really concentrate it. Does things like rain or wind or trees or music or whatever. But i found out really good for that concentration so that point of i'm going to go and stop searching on facebook or whatever You know you listen to music and it gets you focused and you don't get pulled aside to bundy's difference. I found that quick. I rather go look at that straight after this well pull. What's the most accessible now. What's the most important quality successful leader being open. I think you have to be put as an individual. And what i mean by that is is not just about listening. It's not just about communicating. It's about being open to other ideas about being open to input from others And i. I think that there have been times. I can remember where of not listen to input or feedback from other people and Off though i've listened to enough and and then gone down a particular track and it's being wrong And and all of these of these senses. I think just being open to things talking to people openly about what your thoughts are what your feelings are about particular time. How you if you you might be tired because if something happened and you might feel on your best form to make a particular decision. Don't feel forced into making that particular time and we'll be open about it be transparent about what's going on Don't hide those those. Those things i think as a leader if you are if you open in that way and it encourages other people to be open. Then you'll get a better understanding of what's going on. You get a better understanding of your team. You have got to communicate a lot better. So i think that for me not not openness is definitely definitely one of the biggest things i agree completely al-sumait pleasure talking to you again. Paul rely rain to lineup another. Hey as well definitely definitely is. Is there any mention before often eastern europe. Look i think look react. I mean that's a disaster response Is the the new Is the artist formerly known as to move uk And doing the same thing but in a As our own organization and not part of the global group and say Then look at things at the moment in that coated response blown away by the commitment of volunteers. We haven't integrate so those people are doing hot types of the hard tasks body hundred jobs or whatever it may be In in mortuaries three to feed and people a weapon the homeless and is doing doing amazing things. So i'm just looking at the guest list and so two the two other guys on the lead mines series of volunteers davis series. Yeah mike vallance. Believe that today he is alleged. 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BONUS EPISODE: Lost Women of England Tour 2021
"This episode was sponsored by girls can crate a subscription box inspiring girls to believe that they can be and do anything real women make the best heroes and every month they deliver them to your front door via i eighty in this bonus episode. I have for us little nuggets of audio captured by. Emily stole on our recent adventure. Ou our lost. Women of england tour was just i mean what is the word pure joy perfect bliss adventure and misadventure only one misadventure wonder and marvel and the best bunch of women's history geeks ever in in history in history so in this bonus episode we get to reflect and listen to some of our highlights. But what. I love about group travel. Small group travel is that there is no one highlight. Every person has a different highlight on. The trip reflects the individual. And it's so fun because we share each other's magic and excitement and every little thing becomes a highlight. I mean we all know. Westminster abbey was the ultimate highlight for everyone. But i will accept that some other people may pretend i i must say that. Well we'll see we'll see if we recall through at a time your mind will be blown in. You'll go no wait. This is the highlight was. Everything was unbelievable. I think people said to me at various times on the trip. I keep saying this is my favorite thing. But then we do another thing. And i go. Oh no this thing. And then i remember what we did three days ago and going. Oh wait. I forgot about that. That was yeah. This this style of travel quirky you off the beaten rack destinations. That are thrilling. If you know the story about them right you know this is definitely my style. This is the way that i do study abroad. And this is the way. I personally travel all the time and i realized i was reflecting on this trip like so many life defining moments that this aspect of my life began in a library and i must give credit where credit's due. I had recently moved to england. This is years ago now And we didn't have wifi or phone or like nothing in a furniture. Nothing was set up in our apartment and so we would walk to the local library in royal leamington spa Every day in order to use the computers there to contact home and you know libraries are this place of comfort for so many of us. And i was just walking through the stacks in this book just caught my eye. Little hardback book called far from the sobbing crowd. Thought what am. I pulled it off the shelf and it changed my life. This was just a little travel book for written by british people british people but it was just promoting a different style of travel quirky tiny off the beaten track weird places big mainstream places and i just devoured it and i visited all the places in the book. It really helped me to discover what my style of travel is to go far from the saudi crown. I weirdly had a very similar experience when we moved to china. Finding those weird little small nobody goes there locations that became some of our favorite places to go. It makes her a much more meaningful beautiful experience. I think Wonderful if you know what you're looking at that's the trick. He got a kind of no. No the backstory. Before you get there. Yeah so luckily for us we had all these episodes of what's her name podcast to educate us about these destinations. Before we go there. Let us relive them. Let's do it. I'm katy nelson. And i'm olivia nickel and this is what's her name fascinating woman. You've never heard of right off the bat right out of the date of the airport. I think this might have been my highlight. It was completely off the beaten. Track destination martin. Greens farm meeting martin green himself and seeing the place where he discovered cranborne woman. And just marching around the seeker looking martin. Green around in swindon in north wiltshire. There's what's called the national monuments record which hayes his huge collection of aerial photographs of britain and a historic houses. And things like that as well. It's a long record of ancient monuments in in this country and they got over half a million aerial photographs most of which has archaeological. And i was in there one day just hunting that sort of grid squares patch really and i was just looking through look cover previously taking place and i saw a number of features to the of the my farm one of which consisted of this ring of dolts like ping pinpricks with a blob in the middle. Now i can work out. The rough diameters liters always astonished when i saw that. And i thought wow what what the hell is. This is some prehistoric temple and it was clearly a ring of picks with massive paid by ten meters wide in the centre so that i was drawn to it and i felt this. This looks quite unusual to say the least and so. That's why i decided to excavate. I wondered in fact whether the ring of dot may have been a stone stone. Hold so i like some kind of ancient stone monument like stonehenge or something like that smaller version obviously and i excavated and these credible neolithic temple and the central feature insisted were huge picks a meter and a half feet by By ten meters wide and cut down one soit of it was shop. Almost seven meters deep on cut into the flat. Bottom pit right at the end of the day. I located this grave as it turned out. And it'd been very carefully hidden away. The this much bigger feature and we almost missed it and i was only just tidying up at the end of the day and i noticed short was loose at one point and i started going deep and i thought. Oh there's there's some sort of feature that turned out to be. The grave of this woman unsweetened children. And during the excavation we being filled by crew called meet the ancestors team it was television programs with bbc too and this ecorse through them into a great excitement because the reason they were there is that we had a bronze h relatively early in the day which drew them to the side. But this much late discovery was a neolithic group. Much older probably good two thousand years older than bronze age skeletons. So that was much more exciting than the bombs a man. So the brahms age skeleton was just sort of left on the cutting room floor and then all the input went into the woman in the children. That as you know they did the pioneering isotopic work on it and told this extraordinary story. It was stunning stunning discovery. And they all back for me going through those aerial photographs that what inspired you to do that. Take that step. Because i just wanted to know more about my own patch. Really yeah archaeology. Yeah she's land and it's just something. I really passionate about. Yeah yeah and i love going to ask. If there's more there's anything left to be excavated who we are there is stuff. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah so then. I only really scratch the surface and the little bit that i've done but because look very toy area not just my own farm. The surrounding area by neighbors near neighbors and so forth we've been able to get a lot of high resolution data for this area One of my good friends and environmental archaeologists and he's taking samples from many of my sites and he's built up a very detailed picture of the ancient landscape in this area of talent You know i just think. He's heroic for all of jusque backbreaking. That's such a thing absolutely. Yeah that's right sieving tons of soil into the consistency of sugar in identifying fragments microscopic snails. It is absolutely right for me martin. Green of a celebrity in my mind was completely just fan girly just him in hearing the story of how discovered it and his amazing museum that exceeded everyone's expectations. Yes i absolutely loved it. And he was exactly perfect as soon as he walked out of the door went. Yes that guy did. This looks like who he is. Yes and then at the end he gave us all fossils firm yes crying. Amazing and then onto salisbury olivia's favorite place. Yeah you got to see your beloved cathedral. Yes stand in the ridiculous tower that shouldn't exist and have t- that garden directly across from the spire. I'm an absolutely perfect. And then those two adorable guide select just there to see cranborne woman just want skeleton. They had more fun than we did in that museum. Well i think they didn't know why we were there really. And so the moment when he was kind of showing our first little group around and he said. And here's you know here is this. The olympic skeleton was found nearby on down firemen and there was a a literal gasped. I mean every one. I could see his face. Wait wait what's happening but then just totally frills. We wear so thrilled to be presence. All that was just awesome. Just and i you know. Salisbury is one of my favorite places and i had no idea that museum was there. It's literally across the street from the cathedral. And i had never heard of its existence absolutely so everybody listening next time. Here in salisbury. Go and then onto bath. Where the next morning straight. Sally london's for a glorious brunch and meeting with sign. I ordered the welsh rabbit with I heard too. 'cause i do what i want. So i had a smoked salmon. Something was divine and a lemon curd. Something that was divine lemon curd and clotted cream. That's us and i will say. I can absolutely tell the difference between the top of sally. London and the bottom of saline. Bud they are different right and so they serve him differently. Yeah sweet things on the top. Yep savory things on the bottom. It weren't so delicious and we got to see the note above the fireplace. Discovered then the next day in beth. The herschel museum all to ourselves wasn't that awesome amazing. We're just like rolled up knocked on the door locked on. Caroline herschel door. Joseph middleton answers and then we go to for some reason out in her house as long for some reason just extra thrilling when he said well. This house is yours. Yes sir for the morning so do what you want in kind of a little gas. Everyone castle about our one s. They were held. Sex didn't house from sentence primarily as musicians that was career make havoc and they're very busy back on housing shares teaching music and also like religious musical surveys. Something serbs it so when you get around city center we'll see price role or see You'll see what was to chat which restaurant now this'll be these will be familiar to. Caroline play the cash gardens around time citizens for example a big part of our society and is in that space that they have this obsession. Ten escapes and specs jusuf grows reputable time intensive maiziere tassell as a seven foot. Sometimes give me sometimes very interesting stuff. Who's ashes may side with the mirrors and all of this made here in comfort to state museum. Now women carry a poppy. Jackie has made the nose poaching. What allison wouldn't it be. Basically facts down says. The us lessons was what the neighbors noise say. Time is also relations and strange tonight looking at things site to stand in the spot in the garden for they made major discoveries amazing. Yeah and realize how tiny it is. Yes that's what i love about it. There's nothing like standing in the place where it happened. How sixty percents of the whole arches. Laurie jeevan this house on. Its is this is really the hushes strapping to. Here's the live music and destroying across greater silver's. Very young i sing. She have built meddle in russia. She received ninety six nine thousand four to six dollars. Utions science and wullfi they go have to attend a that is much had to apologize very happy to see that really sums up. How in a makes fun was. Actually she was sean people. Tara's acid is this seem sean successor not rambling on The next day something completely different onto warrick where we stayed on the grounds of work castle in the village. Amazing fun and i think all of us actually had a pretty experience just meeting other travelers there other random strangers walking around the boardwalk in the village i mean we ran into some delightful people that that we just kept running into and so we're like best friends by the end but then everybody else had similar stories of running into people so fantastic. I went down and set by the river. Avon and read my book and watched Watched tour members ride boats down the river. Oh perfect and there were swans. Yup i mean. The castle itself is of course spectacular walking around inside and it's furnished inside in its victorian heyday. Which is when ursula bloom visited at christmas time and it was kind of fun walking around the grounds in picturing. Where on earth did lady warwick keep that elephant that she bought from traveling salesmen. That would if you annoyed it would pick you up and gently place you on the other side of the hedge and then from one castle to another castle the next day bolsover castle and who can ever forget the drive to bolsover castle. Where did that we could. I mean britain is never hot. Swear it's never hot and the whole time in preparation. I was telling everybody prepare for rain. Bring absolute waterproof clothing. It's going to rain to be cold and then it was sunny and roasting hot every day. I mean we got sunburns. I was insane but then the hottest day of all drive and the longest driveable or castle. That's when the ac on the coach doesn't work to be fair. It might not have worked for years and they would have never noticed because it never exactly. They never needed. That was outrageous. Poor steve our driver. Sweating buckets was literally thirty seven degrees. What is that in fahrenheit. I don't know it was long. Five degrees ninety. It was so hot. What actually you know was one of those things where you say. Yes but the suffering made the happiness more happy together we're two hours on a roasting hunt wrote and when we stepped off oh this shade of the castle grounds and yet another castle. We had just completely to ourselves. Another thing i love about the style of travel is it is the same thing i love about teaching interdisciplinary classes. That you have somebody in the group who knows about the thing that you're at and stuff that you wouldn't ever know so when we have someone who knows all about horses and can tell us all about the importance of william cavendish in modern horse culture and you know explain to us what we're looking at when we're looking at. This is where they paraded. The horse's like i wouldn't have known any of that. And i like back and look at it and go this. These stables are important. Yes this seems like a place where they did something with a horse and all everyone is learning from each other. That's my favorite thing. Oh that's the beauty of it absolutely the beauty of it and have a philosopher who completely geeking out the star margaret cabinet right and then york our home for four nights. I had never been there. Oh my i think nobody in the group had been there. I don't i don't know we got the real york experience. Just because it was so packed with weddings and nice and satellites. Non stop nonstop. It must have been england. You know coming fully out of lockdown. A years worth of weddings backed up. Yeah and a years worth of parties for forty pretty wild wild. It was a great mix of historical and modern if that's what it would have felt like as a bustling medieval market town. Hey absolutely and we got to meet with sharon right. I'm talking broncos. And the next day all the medieval goodness of york. And of all the things i think my my personal favourite was that little charity boot sale in the shambles for the york. Plays yes and i purchased of all things a large old comfortable jerry and had to fit in my in my carry on all the way back home i bought a bunch of random small porcelain things which i then had to figure out how to not break but they all made it home. I should've bought a jar of jam from that sweet little lady homemade jan bought some. I was like i'm already carrying this teapot. I know i can't. I buy the weirdest things that it is now hanging my kitchen. And it's beautiful. It is beautiful. And then all i have to do is get you started and i know that you will gush for an eternity. Day-trip to nares. Well i'm going to move their first of all that's going to live now. I'm not even joking that we're going to live. Are you gonna live on mothership dinh's side of the river or you're gonna live in. Is there anything on. Mothership inside of river can live. I mean there's a cave. Well yeah i mean. I'm planning on writing out in the cave until until we kick you out. They won't notice. I'll like a statue. It's just the ultimate picture postcard. It's the platonic ideal of an english river town. Oh it is and j stelling. What a delight perfect one. The only jay soon welcome to walk through what was once the ancient royal forest of niagara cave. I'm tell you about history of the town as well as we're going through so let's go. Let's go season some peace catcher buying while the wage well with the monte cool things. They wouldn't come down. The side of the river nasdaq and back in phoenix. Young woman. fifteen year old named agatha. He was pregnant and he was banished to being an idol focused even being but see with not welcoming the town they out and she had nowhere to go. He was greg and it was july stormed terrible audio from the storm and she needed shelter. Found somewhere quiet. Hang near the couponing. Well because he knew he would be on the road near she would be away from tough perfect place this. She gave birth to a small baby but instead of crying reports came that the baby cattle smelled sulfur in the newspapers. Ordinary baby targets disfigures. Straight knows even oh baby had gene this baby whose name type two used to get to this cave. Jim an incredible woman and we still tell the story today when a true delight. One of my favorite things about the trip was just surprising. Our guest little gifts year and there as we traveled through these different destinations but maybe my favorite was secretly ordering a bunch of mother. Shipton handmade dole's from j. stealing because she makes doll. She's a doll maker. They're like little posible figures that she make stop. Motion animation with the are utterly delight. They're amazing. I love it so much and everybody got a little mother. Shipton to take home with them and then back in york. The viking day met first with dr chris. Tucker just wanting to wear margaret altuve. More about cooperative. We went into the vikings center. And then oh the most epic artifacts of course the ride the ride through viking your complete with not just sound effects not just visual effects but smell effect smell effects so brilliant. Copay on intouch sean. And finding out what was fulfilling all whose whose lives law absolutely magical and finally got to see my favorite artifact of all time the lloyds bank copper light. they'll lloyds bank copper light job. That is i have to tell you that. Every single person that i know who has asked me about the tour after i got back has asked if i got to see the giant pu. It's not just favorite artifact. It's everyone's favorite artifact perhaps that is the real highlight of the trip. Giant fossilized pu zenith of the experience and genuinely archaeologically important. Yes men are fast train. Zip us to london for a massive day of far from the crowd. I stop the old operating theatre museum and herb garrett dr monica walker again another place all to ourselves so amazing to explore as we please and if so fun to just sit there in the actual operating theater and have monica talk about james berries time and where he would have learned how to amputate lake in under sixty seconds soon originally so tall and then onto three cemeteries. Count the one two three. And that's what you do when you have a day in london. That's what you do when you're with me and you have a day in london for sure. What are you even do. If you're not visiting three cemeteries then the gravestones that we saw it was really poignant for me especially at monia. Luis grave Kind of forgotten and covered in lawn clippings and not really maintained at all so we got to clean it off and give her our good wishes and then next to that. Ken green cemetery james berries delightfully just perfectly wonky. Yes stone. what really struck me. Was that if you walked past it. It just says dr james berry inspector general hospitals it. Yeah you would never know you. Just walk by and you'd be like That's some kind of inspector general hospital amazing and then highgate cemetery with nikki. Druce amazing boy. That was way wilder and more cinematic than i was expecting. Yeah unbelievable in the the mausoleums in the dark. And then claudia jones just left of karl marx and the yellow roses. That you mentioned in the up yes. Carol royse davies yellow rose bush yes looming away and our grand. Finale minster abbey like nolan gets to see westminster abbey early. No one gets insist westminster abbey. If you haven't seen this before four and a half hours of exploring that place. I mean it can even be described. I don't think so it was divine and for me. One of the highlights was margaret cavendish. Yeah seeing that inscription by william cabin dish on her tomb Plotting how to get caroline herschel next to her brother and nephew yeah. Oh that'd be great. We're gonna do happen. Get we're gonna do it And this is a depiction of a natural woman which is really fantastic on a memorial because most of them are symbolic value or virtue. The says i'm clean beta unlike. Look at this like red. She was distinguished by the period of her. Taste the sinus of her judgment her prudence and discrimination where no instances more conspicuous than in selecting the objects of her extensive charity. The widow and the fatherless were protected and relieved the virtues had fallen from prosperity had peculiar claims to have an evidence though mild and gentle and monitor it. She was remarkable firmness and vigor of her. My fisker staged a this space. Where woodvale who was edward thoughts of queen. She came clean sanctuary. Be twice and this is where she lived. So it's often on tv here. Found seal is good feel claiming sanctuary and some dumb the pows but she goes well. It was quite one serious. On aggregate. V board also gave the second time century that those boys went to the tower of london never seen again whether they built bucks but also how the bones of teach children that will find under pace in the timer. Funded that may or may not be the queen. of course she's called the visitor of the failure so we go to actually concentrate. We report to the queen of the queen slightly more flexibility team rules in the league of that said crash fakes which is absolutely fantastic. We haven't service cold on the commonwealth service is the head of the commonwealth which is from fifty four nation on this on wealth adverse and service and each year. That's been on reputable prayers from the eighth from the hylton. Really people we've been caught in radical longbrake great which when you go into other fronts. The the smell is sued. Non if i could just have a whole separate that smelt like that these concentrates more another ten heckle the jerusalem chamber which is where the king james bible was. I read a line. It was a glorious ten days. It almost feels like a dream now but also when you pack each day so full like that time slows down. I swear in just by the end of day one. We were this. We were this family. Ask tight little. Group is just out on this adventure together and looking back. I think it takes courage to take risks in life and to put yourself out there and and do something far from the saudi crowd. Everyone who took that leap with us especially in such a insecure year. There are kind of people. Yeah and and the ladies. We paid homage to on the trip. Same thing you know. There are so many so many marvelous people in the world. If we have the courage to put ourselves out there amen last but not least remember that headstone. That we saw at highgate cemetery and we all vigili. We all spread out but we pretty much. All of us were stopped in our tracks by it. Yes should have been a marine biologist. Oh my gosh amazing. I'm thinking about it ever since so it's just this tall dark stone. Sally hunter nineteen fifty eight to two thousand fifteen and then in all caps lawyer and then in smaller text should have been a marine biologist. Yeah haunting amazing amazing especially because she must have requested it yeah. I don't think you put that on the stone the permission of the person so she must have said. Here's what i want on my stone. Say lawyer should have been a marine biologist. It was like a momento mori that we look at memento. Mori's from the middle ages. We're going through these cathedrals. This is a modern memento mori. She's consciously saying to every person passing by you got one life. Yeah go do the in closing. I just wanna thank everybody involved in this trip. I wanna thank you marvelous women who came along with us on this grand adventure. I want to thank our incredible guests and our geeky guides interior here. We're all just sort of bathing in the joy of learning and adventure and there was a real sense of meaning in highlighting these stories of forgotten women cleaning off their headstones all of those different elements. I can't wait to do it again. This is absolutely one of the great joys of life agreed. Maybe if we hadn't dared to do it and if others hadn't dared to go with us maybe our headstone say should have taken to podcast see. Aren't you glad. I forced you to do it. As you claim. Do you know what i am. I don't thank you for it enough. Thank you olivia for making me do this. You're the one who really made it happen. I don't think as you know. I don't like the spotlight. Being in front of people is not my jam. But you made me do it. Just like like so many sisters in history. We are opposites. Make for a very very interesting life when we combine our skills. Yeah see you livia and thank you. Full circle to the gravestone marked. Only mother that i stumbled across in the old miners cemetery in boulder that filled me with fury and got me on the phone in forty five seconds to you. Think about all of the women who you've never talked about the forgotten. Women deserve to be talked about. I do love it and the more stories. We learn the more convinced i am. We will never run out so many interesting stories out there and on that note more stories coming up in the second half of season eleven of. What's her name podcast.
POG #3 with TwentyFifty
"Welcome to pioneers of good episode. Three. This podcast is dedicated to interviewing employees founders and also enterpreneurs of companies that are profitable for themselves as well as for people planet and the communities. In this episode, I'm interviewing company, twenty fifty one of their employees guy Wilson, where he was a former opera singer. I'm Rick in banking, and he chose to step away from that corporate world into this profitable company that is really out to change how businesses do business there, Stanford human rights where they really want to see every single staff member globally represented and paid fairly now, what fair means to some people might be completely different to others and cultural sensitivity is paramount. And that's a twenty-fifty comes in. They take into account, not just what we deem as fair and what the company wants to achieve, but also what the community. Teas and countries as well as their religious backgrounds deems fair for them too. So it's a complete win win for every person involved. So with no further ado, let's get on with the interview with employees. Guy will open for twenty fifty. Tell me what about yourself. First guy. Young and signed. Five thirty and then three ten the employees on any of the time. You try says this struggle. So I went to vestment biking. Five years of. Of the do something useful anymore wasn't goods. School teacher is very chill. The drives vices schools, preschool, democratic school here of investing. Interested. Those laws life's didn't vote probably station as a truth fights. He writes, cave may office to this day was off. Trey fifty. We would just past Mace in looking for someone jed inches portables, state visits in ways insight. We all the of the center, I guess all trade fifty. The other is made his colleagues straits. I need to hear just your personal journey ahead. You didn't stop business. You say Tracy values, new creatives opening in job in a company that money's what you sound foreign in the world on your not dream job at a pace when you can be yourself at value as well. When you dream job, does you have to create something you've yourself in your life that has to be a that in order to make it, it's fine offer does does how survives on sense of yourself in this. On Joe since the finish. Excited. Breakage may soon told me by twenty fifty, which is the name come from. Yeah, that Winton bus thrifty Benza. Company off in Ranchi as fool. And then pushed time on the check, hearing it unite. Jennifer, immediate around the coast. Abai Jeevan will on the world. Ecologically people wait. Seven million people waiting off season. Relation, not just a slew conscience. Rehires on it. Twenty fifty grandchildren. Ally is just about who is just around. That and the same reason the as though. Which was the end of bacterial lives twenty years while the created contributed to Dr ward. On the website and this really great courses out that you know, empowering women human rights about irresponsible posing as well. So you cover quite a wide spectrum of services. We do specialize it, but we, we cover will areas of human arise business because we spoke to the needs of different clients, multinational, plus different sexes drivers, especially cheaply. Cheaply trains. So what I get exhausted this line that you would your mates with injury not time, what did he want to see change? The twenty fifty is could send. We get job here thinking away himself to stall his work at the United Nations, marry Rowlinson Radi biggest of the big figures role as a cool birth businesses human-right Ruggie and others. Auntie full table isn't heroes. Businesses -ation exist that he knows he still table can take guidance to businesses, make a prediction myself what he will. He was with. And as I'm your gracious is very by, who is the. The eating nuts nations principal's offices you to rise until he's around when I was happening. So he is very much those people than started his Chris fool able amendment goal. The geez came into being and he's really been fools in business who tried to implement those goals. Those targets companies. I mean, if you n comes in WHO in the great organizations come up with these amazing philosophies of what needs to change. What I'm hearing. This guy's in companies like twenty fifty actually translated into tangible actions that we can stop hunting today. Incredibly complex, national confidence every. Than it goes about this flight chains that will reach Vijay saw. Companies ovation of have. Not just on that, say he's he's foetal experience knowledge. His. It sounds like got quite basis across the globe as well show few in Europe, but also you covering India's. Well, we go to double she system employees. Doozy initial down the road of will say she has who thraw. Zuko when base by based in Tokyo. The world said, we go. Russell just me. Didn't Harry that she said he'll say, saying on our reach is ruin. Ruin naturally. Bye. The geographic areas them can fight to the first maybe the first time you joined the team as well. What did you see a major challenge to is almost educate people that they have a need for you? How did you address educating your customers? What you offering service? They needed to years the civilized started. I was in that field, but will regardless. Come next. Because everything in human voice in multinational companies is a compasses adjust to do with. Power, women's row supply chain. That's complex. His people giving continous very different is princes some, it's it's DNA capacity, Vegas. That going. Voss experience to be able to go. She confessed engine divide. Measurable results said that is just she just cleared, do this difference because the convection to Marshall people. The customer to say acid the altruism, or is it time to Michelle that you can restraint. The connection I can is it isn't you. You can prove that they have a financial return on investments, or is it some other reason the customer say yes to you? Well, I think the nature vestige changing our investors will invest in a company's doing that gross. Some the old ones will leave. The new generation is not tolerate kind of thing doesn't hold rates at night so it will set relation is easily damaged by the media. I guess not. Loss of heterogeneity from deregulation? Big, I guess. The reassurance that if that with us than we have them in negative impact yet. Yet, but we will work able just want the naked in just wanting. Voyages will only looking produce real change in the company's arrived hat. Each person in the company is treated so that every will thickly that low levels all the company off a our room, danger to children is fighting traffic. People's Vijay is reading already halt. By those people. Women tightening the have a real commitment to branding wanting to help us to investigate will get on the company, saying small, I can the carrots than the stick, so people won't change instead of afraid of repercussions grow account sticking his is to like each other issues impacting who we go. I on Sunday so guy someone suppose it gives them extra cheese, whether they get to make a huge profit at working with us. The point night reassured of is not gonna do that business. Say that she miss? Yeah. I mean, would you say that the consumers are now being more interested in the supply train is having a bigger impact in who's coming to you? You'll services so customers now asking more questions, vise things before we never really shows an interest. Okay. Device. Turkish two thousand the business off not goes issues. Best is longer than the wrong way and succeeded get changing. All companies up survive. The media is is also RH is run full before that were stories, twenty years ago, abides enact to environmental disasters. People Legua will injured live as things like that, but nine looking that will create getting about insurance -pointment and to prevent mass like rations like that happening. People will destroy vegetable will have to decide the invested and things like single angles who should people wear to have this programs of the guidance with us. That's where we come in. As you said this more and more demand, what you're afraid, amazing service to large corporations will who should talk company Helen did it take to actually define that. I guess in the agricultural sets the we all. Trench expanded the moment. A twenty companies. I mean waivers will say those coming saving legit. Anything Jack wrecking relationship, autarkic copies of people who want to make a real given to them that will face and we will very Trump and his reach common names off show a made profile projects for the lost. If it gets from the defense sector, he says, we are absolutely emitted to change in the world defense. We can sit working with that at least sake without will not sation probably would where we would have consented. From the fence education, revenge. During this research do not soft will you were to us just avoid Rhys who just say in, hey, small shape the confidence, retarget just people who want to make a difference. We must molecular Doppler England. Eek is wanted make that difference, but you will work with people do that too. In this mazing will treasonous values on for sale. Today is the difference in overstates abuse agreed abuses where they're all traffic, people that just be radically from companies that he actively get rid of it. This is the convex morally princi- goes. People were in the building India and them schools in the area and the tradition that the young join in with the hose. Yeah, g. why? Out child labor in that fall that Devi mature matured with nothing to do. Do you settler stool, which might risk that young person getting will will fly something of leaving the game, the city in the no having the skills to come back. And being the follow the. The the uniform hockey do that actually almost mold training Fung Unity's into complexities by casick young job community young children feel how do you have a of changing the society that communities will do say there's nothing wrong or western principles Gino. Yeah, it's a messy complex. She said, one solution does not fit evasion goal demographic or cultural community in, yeah, can hear the depth of knowledge that you you need to base this. This is some the assumptions on before going in that spot in wrong. We need to do this. He also the different modalities like Beckham you have haven't look. They are. The key thing be bring. He will get your company as a useful. Begin to Davey. We'll sit down dishes for days that Gary convection CEO, cable, this person maybe a check of college. My take. For the people in this Jovan respectfully equals. Yeah. What you just said is, is translatable for a lot of companies not just a the company of of twenty fifty, but we actually listen to what the customer is dealing with, offer a solution to the problem than not only you delivering what they want, but you also answering problem. Maybe they didn't even know they've got so is listening intently to to every level of what the talking vice difficult refunded to this also. Conserves. Yeah, annoyed deals studies. She doesn't even if they may be from a culture, the dove anyone how you is from a Heidi. Doesn't as he would be. He is saying, I want women base. We don't pay them while just hustle culture, Ardiden bus the. My nomination wrong will aged yet posing gunning because let's face it. West is impose his buddies on Mideast, never else they yet full and just came back from India. I'm sitting a in a slam with some women. They asked us questions. There was a group of western women in the group of the slamming women. I couldn't get the questions because they were saying, do you choose your boyfriend's of which I didn't even think that was a question, but to them it was a big deal on. Do you do you able to cool? You'll metha-. I was going on my goal as you said, if I hadn't listened to will was going on, they will. That would never felt those two being valid questions. During the. The loveliest people have enough that would it with myself on is than absolute equal, but then get back into his family and NC in community relevant law, his known work show ountry people in demeaning degrading way. They were up stick to that violence. They had to do. They Chouan having agency and is off. Aw, thank you. You have to. He'll sell. It was negotiating situation into. If I know belittle sharing as well because actions so. The thing, not not belittle what what he's seeing. He's doing well and make him known actually, you know, just just letting it be with no judgments. Cassatt can many the voter revolting up to get into though she mounted on the study talking human GM they say, all designed to negate life as we try to get Justice by their lives. They might not be by. Yeah, and create the change wanna see through your services to the notch corporations, the. As well. A lot of. Visit -cremento, where judgments changing adventure, vast buddies judges. Well, the people who are interested in learning more at twenty fifty and the journey hack to get involved in also potentially hiring precipitous way. Where can we find economy for that. Twenty twenty in words, one word. So k. k. your final comes in the people that work for us to go. We've got incredible diverse CBO where across a wide range of. That are most likely to. Record industry level, we guess regrets freight people kind of those kinda people just people off business background or something really defined, don't making the business wrong, really heavy. Primaries is false. This the people the more important than Molly. That's what else to say. So like that. Her fleeting easier, easier nuts, partly thanks to your efforts as well. So yeah, more more companies I know will be a looking viewing distri a funny on Twitter as well. Believe you're, you're not social media. So I'm looking forward to following your geniune hearing about the great complete arrangement and the change making as well. Kate, plenty of cements your time guy. Really appreciate it. And I got a lot of accidents and I'm sure everyone is listening on the Custos while that you can. Thank you so much. For more information about this company, please visit their website twenty-fifty dot co dot u. k. and that spelt with letters with numbers. And if you enjoy this podcast, please subscribe and leave a review on I tunes. And if you do want to get in touch with me, then drop me an Email, Kate advocate, strong dot CO. Looking forward to hearing from you next time. Bye.
Gaming Fixx Live Ep#55 02/03/21 I'm not your $%#*ing inspiration(Disability in RPG's)
"Hop around tokyo steady like a big playground. bad man. i got to attack the expensive inbox. Russia opened up came out of the blue wave started. Breeding them shaquille. O'neal we can make back to the bat cave negative forty seven under his hat but he ran out of ran away. Because on this guy. As far as the. I can't see this is destiny and welcome to gaming fix. I'm frank and i'm heather or mellow cello 007 from milledgeville double the sevens hang outs non-euro from physical and today we have Keita moran And kit why don't you introduce yourself and let me know a little bit about I just go by. I am oh mostly a textile artist to be honest but my husband runs. Panopticon gamy End the iran of the disabled nerds. Give up on facebook all right awesome. So i'm interested in hearing more about the disabled nerds group. Been your involvement in it. Yeah it's Kind of started out of nowhere. I had made a comment on a thread in my dean group on facebook about how it would be really nice to have a space for those of us that were dealing with disabilities of kinds and had this overlap. Because we've been seeing a lot of backlash pushback for the accessible dungeons imbed the battle chair things like that and just got flooded with people tying me do it do it do it. So i started it up and about a week later we already had over one hundred members in there and it's it's growing so it's been a really cool experience. Well that's that's phenomenal. Yeah i have been really nice to the the mine together. And i've had a few people message me just say you know thank you. We really needed the space. And even i didn't realize how much i needed it until it was there were no. I think that's super cool and so Since you're our guest we'd like to ask you a chi- how did you get your game on. I was really interested in the light of kind of deion. Magic rely should say Probably first of all. When i was younger but also the youngest of three and my eldest sibling is eight years older so there was really no one that kinda wanted to introduce me any of it because i was the younger sibling and got to high school. And then kinda had to deal with the sexism of it at the time of people saying Your girl you're not gonna really interested. And then i was seventeen and i met my now husband and i told him this and he said well. That's ridiculous let's let's get you set up and went out that night about pack. Magic cards never looked back and he is actually our longstanding and long suffering. Gm for our group but fairly the term long-suffering one session but over the last year and a half. We've been meeting every other week. So it's been really cool. Oh cool cool. Do you do anything this week. Specifically this week. I guess actually we had a session for campaign the running in three point five. We are doing both the good campaign which we did last year and this year's the evil campaign for the same story so were reverse that we did evil. I so we're seeing the consequences of our actions and playing out. The other side of it jeevan really amazing. All cool i Actually ran a audible campaign. Have my store for. I want to say about a year and One thing that i did that was kind of Different is lot of Dungeon masters. Don't wanna run more than six people. But i had set as a meet up so we had a revolving group of players that would show up all the time so that was kind of weird so basically I think at the at the end of it. I had about nine players that were playing to the point that i was running storyline and this guy was there and he's all like i'm bored. We should fight and light using a god evil campaign so the the head of the of the group was a slight not. I mean that so he just like you know. Murdered them his speech. I don't know why you think you could just interrupt that but yeah so we did that and then i actually did try and start the good the good the good campaign on the same story on this insane world And i tried to do that at the At the swap meet social kind of interesting. That's been pretty amazing satellite. The swamp homebrew world. That we've been doing it. Ed and It's we see our our good characters now running into our evil characters. And we've just kind of nicknamed the group petra because petros one of the evil ear. You're just kept pulling these things and these schemes. And now whenever something goes down it's timid petra what's funny with a with an evil campaign is you. Can you can just go completely off the rails like there was. They found a bottle and i explained it to them and lot of times. People don't listen to potion descriptions on my cats bright red. Okay cool and they're like the drank it like what is the. It's a of my okay role. Damage like what. It was a portion of fireball. Because boulogne why would you do that while you leave around. Evil folks evil folks you know. Have a very evil. Dm as well they gave he gave petra the deck of many things at one point as she also had an arcane compulsion so long story short she ended up with a pet carrasco named body dubbed so by my half orc barbarian goodtime good times so Darryl how did you get your game on though was actually a little bit different than usual. I binged played the first game. I've done in like two years. Because i've always been doing the kind of play for an hour or two hours at maximum and then switch something out so long i played through and streamed all started on friday morning at like two. Am and buys monday evening. I was in to the post game I had really good time with it. being soap. I don't see seven for me wasn't my first final passy but it was definitely one you know brings to childhood and for for me. I thought considering how badly the remake could have got we got the best possible One thing i would like to mention about it that i really enjoyed is that they finally figured out how to make the battle system as a action packed visually as abbot children but still maintain an actual strategic turn based game which even though it plays in real time it is kinda turn me it is a really your system to but i i would say out of everything. I am impressed with combat system. i also have since i have been playing or i've been gathering all of the exclusives that i have for the. Ps four in downloading on kind of go through them on stream over the next few weeks and Let's see one thing. I can mention what i wasn't doing. It was using upshur card with my street though i had finally taking initiative and made the purchase for capture guard and picks up through amazon off razor rips off which is fairly plug and play and Seems like it would actually be hard if it didn't have this one issue so everything worked fine up until i actually thought the image going through. Yes and it was pink. It's just like this pink hue over and almost like a glassy. Hugh as well. Because i did try to play around teller direction. I'm like okay. Maybe i could get around us trying desperately for like half a day to work with the idea. What if we used a what if used game caster and see if that 'cause like changing the software might have you change software at all. I have changed opt where i try. I've tried this through dischord. I've tried this through. Ob s and. i've tried this exploit demo version. Okay oh expletive. The demo visions the same thing as game caster. Okay oh so. I think that was it I did not try twitch labs. But i figured with already three attempts it was something with the video card Or i just was trying to figure out another answer. That's all before we send it back. Yeah it's out of the mystery and it appears that it is not an uncommon thing. Yeah no that was weird. Obviously i've you know went to google. Typed it up was like oh paint screen with razor abso- there's got to be a sticks right and there's youtube videos on it but the youtube videos don't really say anything or they're just people like dude what what's going on. Why is it doing no actual lamp or there are these tiny little forum fred's describing the problem and then this goes into like only into like monitor hurts solutions and things like that like obviously stuff. I wasn't looking for the yeah. That was my week of. But i didn't doing as well raising ripped off. I wouldn't completely say razors like the worst company. Her and i haven't actually contacted their titan. For which i should but i would say if you're making the choice bird capture heard. I would not recommend great also. I would also add to that that when we were looking for fixes we also found on description of another problem called blackout. So not only do they have this pink thing but they have they have the black thing going to so if you don't want to chromatic issue of problems you might want to avoid them. Yeah which probably why. The reason why i bench played by vaccines out. It was because the cashier hard frustrated me. I was like okay. I'm just gonna sit here for an entire weekend and play video game like aren't i'm i'm pretty sure that's exactly what it was since she said so. Now because of this capture card a miracle play final fantasy for. I can understand why you would have done that gerald That issue sounds very frustrating I've had similar issues in the past. I'm not an issue right now with my thermal each and by tablet right now i have to work off my phone and You know do everything but my home offers the free podcast today. so yeah. I completely understand where you are coming from the terms of the frustration. Yeah it's not just the frustration. Though one thing is that. Like i put down like top money. You know full price brand new for this thing like generally. I'm actually someone that macgyver tech together. Because on cheap you know i've been streaming on the Just using me The regular in console string programs so far and was even trying to like at one point. Seeing if i could actually do produce like Several hours stream with multiple games. But you know obviously that capability definitely need a capture hard in dc or but So having bought before fries and then get it brand new and have this problem. And there'd be like no reasonable fix. I think the was even her of a letdown And upsetting rather than Just how frustrating. It was branded. Yes it was so frustrating. 'cause i going back to it like okay. Maybe get it. Nope and yeah. That covers my weekend gaming. How do you get your get weaken gaming on Well i'm excited to tell you guys that as promised i have got myself back into streaming Last night i came over to daryl's house and You know in our little up there in the we we did some streaming will. I was the one doing the streaming while darryl was basically monitoring as a backup and Yeah it was great. I got suffice. Some dandora Would jump plane as a part of the series of games the I'm hoping to find eventually more games. i'm going to be playing that game for a black history month as You know just kind of like a way of to celebrate Apple centric gains games. That are Logs developed or owned studio owned urged and produced. So we definitely wanna highlight the dot. Highly folks like that in the when we see something like that. Come out and i believe. Andorra is an epicenter title. If i'm not mistaken the darrell. There's one who told me about it. And i saw and plane hit and it really interested because i saw myself in this character with the exception of my beauty mark You know. I pretty much look a lot like dan darragh and i i do even said i said in the stream which is funny. Yeah so because while her. And i'm probably on a unclog gonna do a pool off possibly of dandora This year or sometime whenever the next convention is going to happen. You'll probably see me. And then a dandora costs flay. It'll be awesome. I've never been able to do that before. Actually pause players character in a game or in an anime or anything. I felt like a low flake in of milk connection to and the best part is With this game is. I feel like it's very reminiscent of appointing cake. So honda game that they also has like a former failed to it with Calling out safe side. But it's not fide score on dell would know the accurately really hard on described. What's but the remains of like a gauntlet. Sue it so it's a game where movement is actually at You have basically one hundred eighty degrees. You can angle like moot moved bay Pointer and that you have to land on specific forms and yes to navigate. Puzzles only being able to move it. Basically forty five degree angle so with dot economy makes it hard to to move that once you start getting the hang of it on a progress through the game a little faster than you would sometimes to the point where you end up dying a lot like i did in my string last night which you can view on youtube as laura's on twitch So yeah you know. Check that out when you get a chance on. I'll be sure to post links on the gaining six facebook page and You know i'm really hoping you guys enjoy at least watching the playthrough dandora as well as some of the other titles on on going to be looking through and through two rating for black history month but In addition to playing the earlier. In the week i stayed up late and played some Naci the gathering arena online tablet or complete cracked I don't know what's going on with metabolites that seems like using a virus issue or bag to the magic. Remain meena saying I've been playing time during the courage shown. Oh i probably was flying around way Probably one thirty two in the morning until probably three or four five in the morning sometimes on bought for in the morning around that time and you get some exercise in so yeah it's been a rough trying to adjust this all play magic with you but every time i wanna chines you know. Play with you and ask you. It's like you know you're either busy or your sleep being or or on busy. And ron sleeping's of will to work something out for or something. Yeah the I've been doing the color challenges since i haven't had any once actually was And that's you know that's that's always fun because you know when you don't have someone to play with with the actual cards for magic the gathering you know kinda. It's kinda hard to do anything with it except you know mail through your bags and you know built the mob and stack them up and things like that and you know shifter you decks and see how what kind of law outside of that. He can't really play a game by yourself. It's kind of art. I mean you could you looks. I think it would be weird. In my opinion i would follow. Try it just to see how play on one here actually played a game magic against themselves and be like playing chess against yourself so i was just thinking is that it. Be playing chess against yourself. You know chessmaster would do i actually. That's that's that's how test used to test my deck sometimes and decide which decks were coming out with me for the day makes a lot of sense now that she said that rank and i remember you doing that now that you say it because i'm like what are you doing and say on tests meg. I'm like oh how do you do that. Okay so is color challenge. I have not played arena. So i don't know they are so the color challenges basically where you are given a set taller of parts. Which is the polar set or of man. Which is the manna. Which is what the pain pasta. The to us favor putting out on stage in the game Or creatures rather the game so wayne You play again in a color challenge you play against another character. That's in the story line of magic or the in story of magic and they and their particular color cards just to see how to just to test your deck against their deck and it's usually jet computer generated unless you're playing against the natural person so I believe i play. Unawed played loom Played flat and i played rain. And i i if. I'm not sticking play a red-green against the right brain death and i was interesting on like how do i get my self to get of pombo of polars as opposed to a single deck of colored. Arc's how do i do that then. Gain sure the show me or tell me france. And i'm sure if i you know ask other folks who play arena. They'd be able to tell me if i reached out on a forum which you know. I'm so afraid to actually talk news. Is she trying to figure out what. I'm trying to figure out on arena. How different i said On mtv g arena on trying to figure out how to create different color combinations of cards. Because i i like. I like the i like having deck. All you have to do okay. So all of those cards are any ear set. And then you can build your back from your set and then you name it. Oh okay so. I just basically pick and choose of Or i can build a new duck from la cards already have yes okay all right. I didn't realize i do that. I realized it was that simple at that. I just realized a certain point. Then i could do that. No just realized that you Like all the card combinations that you have will be Deterrent like will will have to deal with the Type of game that you're playing so if you aren't paying attention and us put a bunch of stuff together that works that's cool but it may not be playable and standard and and such so you have to make sure and watch your Different sets and such right. Like if you're playing commander of course you can't have the same card of sin cav more than one of the same hard if you're playing scandi have more than or the same part and then you know. You really sucks in in commander you cannot. You can't play commander in In arena which is really lean. Ooh they don't have it together they don't have it. I'm sure they're working to have a store goal. They have vintage. They have a lot stuff but they don't have. They don't have that. I don't think of two headed giant eighty. Either way you know. I'm sure they're working a lot of the competitive games on arena. Yeah i'm i'm sure they're they're working on. It is a work in. Progress is not a finished product By any means you know just like any game like looking at blizzard in a world of warcraft. Those games pain out in ashes and people eight back crap up like it was gotten they went gaga for it. This lean you get hollow polo. I heard you we. We can hear you. Can you hear us in here. You i can hear you with me okay. Enough of that anyway So i basically think that off. I wear to create a combination of cards. I levine more successful especially when it comes to playing other people I think that I had thought that before. You explained it to me. Frank that i had to level to a certain point and then i could start inning hard classes you know. I don't really read the directions on games. I just kinda like jump in and coming. That's where does he go. What do we do it so. Yeah we could do this thing and it does this thing about being a booming. You will all right art. That's what we do okay. We're doing yeah all right. Let's do it could be all kind of rules mechanics night. Why you're doing it. And you know all kinds of you know special locations in certain. This is a thing starting on for me. I was trying to fly spanning spaceship. And i flew into the sun. I if you watch the stream. I talk about tiny in that stream a lot and pattern this hauling the patterns of the game. Because that's what it comes down to you. Playing a lot of these games is following the pattern and find the timing in the sequence. And you know you. You'll swear on colors is fixed so that makes sense is fixed by the way you know that right wing colors is fixed by. Explain what you mean by that. I mean that whatever color you're going against will always play the same combination. Oh okay gotcha. I see what you're saying so it doesn't so if you see at once it's been a repeated at some point or will repeat it. No it's going to. It's going to repeat it. It's always gonna draw the exact same cards you're going to draw the sim cards to the re talking about magic still. I was talking about in lake In my stream dreary dandora foam. Sorry i thought you were streaming magic burger. That's fine no. I wasn't shooting magic. I actually streamed extreme dan dr. That was the only thing. I stream. But i apologize. I should have been a little more clear when i was talking about games But yeah. Dan is the only game that i've screamed so far. I'm doing that for black history month. and the magic the gathering was something i've played you know as a refunds east game by myself and I conned a. I'm really enjoying playing magic and I want to play more of it. But my tablet needs to be fixed. You know That might be something folks can help out with with You know our patriotic. That's something that will probably get into or talk about You know later. The for sure i talk. I got my game on so We wanna getting assumes. Was that you. Oh i was this Where we How'd you get your game on frank. Thank you Sure I played some Empire puzzles i do and still haven't seen you Joined the Alliance there. But i know i need to do that. through the final fantasy seven so yes i have an excuse. I don't so i was Let's see a really pretty excited today. because i was able to get the most damage i've ever gotten on a titan i was getting i got sixteen thousand On one titan which is really good. That's with my Team that i put together. I told you guys about that was Basically all of the highest point together. But it's like three defensive two strikers league right yeah and it's is really effective This is really good. Like i've i've gone into a playing stage to Through the story path. And i've done really well in that and It just it does really whelming face I'm not always winning in were but does because the war numbers roy's a little higher than my teams Because it tends to be a lot of the alliances that ended up challenging us are like thirty five or like the thirty seven is like the lowest team like. I went up against the seven. Thirty seven seventy three. And i'm a thirty seven fifty so it's not like a huge difference but it's enough that i only kill two. Two people in their team had to bring in another team to finish the job. So that took a minute But that's been pretty fun And i'm still leveling My rumpelstiltskin and That's basically oh i. Finally it took me a long time. And i mean like a long time to get my harpoon. Thirty is to So in order to do a research for her poon's you need food level. That's just ridiculous so it took me about. I don't know like a month or something to get enough food. Yeah enough like food in little online just took a while to wild. Darryl cooke building took forever. Yeah i know a lot of via mobile games in do that. It's just that's something. I'm most games like taking a month. Is this process. It was a process long process. And then i finally got food and i have hurt business so i can damage the titans. Which means that. I'm helping my gilgit titan parts which makes me feel good We actually had our first. pathfinder game Coming back from the hiatus. How was that. That was pretty cool. i'm a little word about it. We've i'm right now. I'm actually actively recruiting people to play Because we've only got two people and The new guy. He's he hasn't played that often. And i'm worried that like if it's just like the two players he might like might not be super fun so i'm trying to Create like it's a. It's a big adventure but i'm looking for. I would like to get some more players It was fun we What day is the game held on. And what time frank okay. So it's on sunday and it's Sports at six fifty the pacific standard time here on sunday and if anyone was interested in joining a game how would they get in contact with you. Will they can always reach me on at my email. Which is a code. Red games at gmail.com and a. It's a pathfinder game and it's a six level and you have to start at the core class which was basically means any class that's in the In the original pathfinder record book so you. I have to cope with the character premade. You have to make your character this. I'll do all to pay anything places. No it's my home game. I'm not charging for it yet. All right and I mean if it got really now this is my home game I have some some friends that i met Our friend from improv. And i have a friend that i've known for ever for when i had my shop and He his son was playing and then his son got into trouble because he wasn't doing his homework and so He thought that we could go on hiatus and his son would be back but that didn't happen. So now i'm we're playing and We play it's funny I started this out of the library. Adventure going to go. Get a book and as as it came. I decided you know what this is going to be a big a big adventure. So i've been working on that one thing that's been really I dunno as a dm if you have promises but Challenge ratings on monsters is really is really a problem. Sometimes because i think sometimes the the monster manual a creature collection. Whatever might say that it's a cr such and such and then you run it and you're like this. This almost killed my party Because like i have iran Just two of these things. And i'd already ran on. I'm like they're kinda nasty. I don't know but it says it's a cr to challenge leading to. It should be ready for at least a a second level player. And you know these are six level. Players shouldn't be a problem but it had so many different abilities marine. I know i remember you describing all the doherty's that it had and i was just like are you serious. That sounds oh keita's all get out. Yeah it it had a resistance. It had a damaging it had a damage reduction and then it had a poison. The dropped your wisdom score and it could turn invisible and was tiny those hard to hit and the it had to kill that. No i could bility's. Yeah so basically. What i did is it's funny. I i asked as a player schuyler. 'cause he does the rules Just he just knows three point five and it's easier than looking in a book i'm like. Hey how would this work. And he's like well usually what would happen is each each one of us would have to You know say what square were hitting. And then it's over. That's where is that. I was just like didn't like that. So i was like okay. Started scaling percentiles. I'm like okay. Just we'll just do love flippable. The coin percent tile trying to hit it and then the standard. Ac russillo is really ridiculous. luckily my The fighter got to the fighter is a monkey or grow or a monkey like. That's no monkey that in all. It's it's a dire it's it's a. It's a dire ape with a Full blame the that his hit dice are a three eight so he swings three eight damage and slow and it was. It was really scaring people. Because he's sitting and everybody know like everybody knows that he's sitting and i'm like yeah god is okay. Well that happens and they were not happy because they're like how. How come this thing is still alive. It's like it's this little thing and it's taking all the sword damage and it's like. Yeah but the dr the dr guys so it was pretty bad like One guy was doing Mad missile and was only one point each time he hit it was super rough and the only thing it does is it can get in your head because if it if it gets the disease if you get the disease than it can start talking you until you stop attacking it and stuff but it doesn't have any way it's really weird. It's like its ability as it can have a conversation with you from anywhere in the world. Which like freak you out but if you think about it it's you can just ignore it like dilatot me norman attack you 'cause you bit me and the 'cause poison it has a flight speed to the thing is crazy so anyway did that for a while and then I guess one of my players was tired so he ended up a little early but other than that was pretty good game a and then today and the pretty soon i've been talking about playing vintage games specifically like final fantasy on Our twitch channel on gaming fixed live now was thinking about doing that. But i think what i'll do if i see the thing is if i can get it working and The internet has been a problem at my house and Heather can attest to this because it has caused all kinds of trouble lately. It's caused trouble with gaming fix. Its caused trouble with a black and white colour Anything we're doing and Today tentatively tentatively I would like to try to play peach or final fantasy or because giving live what i'm going to be doing is i'm going to be streaming a retro games and It was cool. I actually tested out Super mario brothers. A little bit surprised. So super mario. There's at least the version that i had. I don't remember it. Having to player function but china remember how that player thing because it's very bare bones in that mario. That's what i thought. Because i don't remember ever playing like luigi with my dad. There's you know like. I don't remember ever laying like it's the same tax rate but instead of right. Yeah sounds tournament breaking out the one with the hat. Yeah it's so long new over warwick hatton is oh no. That's that's like galaxy or something that's a that was the one that was introduced with the switch switch The we the when nobody cares about the way you do. We you thank you for letting me for like telling me that game actually exists instead of letting me have like a mrs swan moment in you know. There's a hat with with is that that was introduced with the game with the we. You and. I don't think it was galaxy. I just can't think what it was called. Maybe super meyer world or something. I don't remember. Sea galaxy was On the we. I think galaxy to was also on the then. You had a question mark because no one remembers the we because i was terrible. Marketing is remember thinking which was an extension of the we. I think it took me over a year to realize it wasn't. Oh jeez that happened to you. Yeah 'cause when it was coming up that was exactly what everybody was like. All the podcasters oppose listened to at the time or any about with like. Yeah no one's gonna know what to say. Yeah i had no idea. I mean to be fair. Were still fairly behind on our system. Getting just because money's always so tight with us but yeah they're numbers e yet and i was so sure. It was just like a pad to expand their capabilities of the we. And i kept thinking. That's weird. shouldn't be time for new console walk. It would've made sense in. Some of the done is an accessory. I know i. I actually went to that E three where they had all the All of the different things. Like breath of the wild and louise mansion and But mario game we can't remember and They had it like all. Set up in like this. really cool. Nintendo's odyssey brent of money maybe it was honestly it's okay so no which i still having even with looked odyssey. Isn't that the one. Where mario's into real world i think. Maybe so you're saying you're gonna be playing but hey if you but hey if you wanna come come by and guess what what super mario brothers were talking about with the hat and the is come on by the facebook and make a guess facebook at gaming fix f. i x. x. and just You know put a common in there all right. So yeah it's gonna play some retro games. And i was playing Mario today and i thought i was much better. I'm like already lake. I think this pad must have a problem. I i don't know. I don't know if i have a problem or if the pat is a problem but it was like I cannot get over ditches yet. And i was the first time i played a coupon just walked over and killed me so i was trying to Kupa goumba Mushrooms with the teeth. Yeah combine them. Momentum really work like i'm trying to remember it is kind of like you know you're modern stuff. It spend a minute since. I've played this by minute. I mean so you know when we first got nintendo system. My dad picked up picked it up at a garage sale. So it's not like we picked it up at the retail. And he picked he picked up robby the robot which those that was stupid by the way and and the The light gun c. You know we had the duck hunt and everything. And i was and like he was like playing it and he never really said yeah. You could go my bedroom play but like when he was not around i would go and i would. Play are because What i was doing is at the At the liquor store by my house. I would go still plans to go get something from my mom or something. And then like there was a mario brothers game that i was playing the cost a quarter and then suddenly there was came those like at my house and i was like it doesn't cost a quarter. Why don't i just play that instead of playing. This slot is playing that but I don't remember being that bad. But apparently i know i know i never got as far as my dad because my dad got all the way to level eight an actually turned it over like he actually got to the first level where they're all They will have the hard shells bright. Like i forget how many times it does it. But you can basically loops and each time you through the game. Like they'll add a new enemy type. Yeah exactly so. It was that and then i played with the game genie. But i was really surprised. At how bad was that this. So i'll probably do it on twitter because i know people like to come onto twitch and laugh that people so yeah come on. The gaming fixed live and laugh at frank triumph. Play mario brothers and frankel trying not use his outdoor voice in his swearing. I don't wanna get kicked off a cliff or something but the lied born. So i've been being like very very much twisting play games and failed to larry ously so yeah but i gotta working and i gotta say this video capture card got so seems to be this. Hd video capture card that we got from wish because it works and i was surprised that even the sound works really nice like you can totally here. But i mean you know. It's all running a big system. It's just running mine intendo classics. So you know it's a little little system but you know for eleven dollars not bad not bad. I don't feel too bad about about that purchase. And i think trouble that's on boxing. Too bad to pay for that but How will scrabble scribble swine I would i played scrabble. And in a while when i went back The personnel playing with. I usually don't get abandoned game but apparently i played i in place along the i abandoned the game and all i was i was. It was really weird too. 'cause i was honestly like there's no nice way of putting i was like kicking the other person's teeth and pretty much as far as like i was getting are just going for twenty x 'cause i'm going for twenty s all the time and so like i had only twenty point words and i was like it was like three hundred to one hundred and something and then i just. I stopped playing Goring there's no channel things happen. I really like you know like that l. No okay it was in the malcolm price moment. I said it was malcolm price moment. I don't identify the person at all and I don't know what you're insinuating. So moving on As far as all that goes in our introductions Today we are going to discuss disability in indian d. and the this kind of came about originally i guess from this from the idea that it's the least oh my side of things I had heard about campbell. Keep because a friend of mine was posting on facebook about it and His thoughts were You know. I don't know some of his thoughts. Were basically that. That's a great idea to how with wheelchair accessibility. But then why wouldn't you have. If it's a fantasy game. Why would you have all these other options and select. That's kind of what he was going with. A lot of people seem to think that way about it. And i was like i could. I could see what he was saying. And at the same time. I'm like after reading. I i kind of differently and then like i realize like when he talked to somebody else about it he kind of like you. He seemed like a little more on the same page. My friend happens to be a designer and he happens to be pretty well known but anyway he he was talking about this often so i i noticed it in the night Then after that the The disabled a nerd group was created. And i had been invited by my friend. Aiden and i went in there and i saw the other article. And i just. I've been wanting to discuss it anyway. Because they thought it was something that should be discussed We've talked about a lot of things on here and how it cross applies to role playing and That was one thing we hadn't discussed and one thing that like. I don't really talk about that offense while a lot of people know about the kidney failure. People don't know that i have I always say. Add but i guess the actual term is adhd. I don't have hyperactivity so. I just kind of take out But still that's the actual term and then also have dysgraphia and have had it for my entire life. So it's been something that i've had to work with having educational handicap. I had dysgraphia until i was in my early twenties in reddin article about it. You would think that the school would have caught it. it's funny. I also have this draft a l i. I actually write in block lease so people can find it led right just like I'll be sitting there writing. And i don't think about how much like it's it's pretty much when i'm writing. I'm actually drawing to the point that like if my light is often my row and i'm writing something down real quick. I'm like well. I hope that looks good alone. I'll turn on light be like no doesn't i spent a lot of us. It a really negative remarks from teachers about illegible handwriting. Poor styling and still. Nobody seemed to figure it out. But i said something about it my mom after. I found the article and she went. Yeah about your dad is alba. That whole side of the family is too yeah. It's it's like. When i started like i'd give my bs and ds mixed up and then as i got older there was the slant like when you write you right a slant and it's it's a lot of things that were really annoying and then like being wanting to be a creator at the same time having that has been always interesting but Yeah so this is near and dear to my heart also You know my mom is was a had. Arthritis and lupus and Also had a lot of problems with some of writing she had to Train herself to write with other hand because of her arthritis so You know. I've just. I've always been very aware of of that is an issue and So something that really struck me. And i was like. Oh that's really interesting. I've never thought about like how it cross applies to We had to role playing dragons. So that's what we're gonna discuss today with a member of our dear bruised pretty badly dyslexic. And i found one day. A character sheet that someone had designed specifically for people with dyslexia and sent a tour and just see how excited she got was one of those things that made me think. Wow we really need more accessibility modifications funny. You should mention dyslexia. Because i'm sitting here thinking you know. I shouldn't mention anything about my dyslexia. I should mention anything than people think. I'll destroy but is it is a disability and it is something that does need to be addressed more especially in education as In games and things like that the that nature that you know pertain to reading and and taking information and knowledge And you know basically having a overall out a different outcome through those methods and strategies that are employed through that information so I think it's important to have that because having the cognitive ability to take that information in Is is part of that ability to process that information and not everybody has that same process of or or has that same cognitive ability. I not that. I'm saying that they don't have. It is just that they do differently. They had everyone has every one is unique. Everyone has a unique set of genetics. And unique set of way of the ob they operate as well so it only makes sense that they'd have a different way of learning to were a different way of interacting with their environment. So that's that's essentially. What i look at it as and when i think about it you know in how i was being dyslexic my myself. I have never actually been tested on. No i'm dyslexic because So much trouble with reading. And i say raises and things backwards and sometimes i'll have trouble expressing myself and i. I never really thought about it. Until i heard an art of read a few articles and i've also heard a few news articles on mpr which is a real respected news Radio station on a tanti on well Am radio And i thought more about it. And i was like you know i really probably should get tested for this but more beginning back to the dnc aspect of accessibility and Dyslexia you know. They really should incorporate more of the into games. Just because you know if it's more of us wants to be represented and more of us wants to be included is not just about you know one or the other it's about bo- yeah in this character sheet that i had found was span created. I mean it wasn't even an official release that came out and that was one of the things that really struck me that this was something that was so needed and it took someone completely unrelated with any company to come up with it after the show. Could you link that to me. I have a friend that's is dyslexic and Heather probably wants to to. i'm sure. Oh yes definitely that. Yeah it's great. I noticed you know the reason of my friends right away as fish usually re does for character sheets and she draws in it. Looks like is just this beautiful. Artistic interpretation like one of her artifices has years old with a page and things like that but it also is just a way for her brain to process the information better. So it's clearly something that works. We'll just like all the different words that they have. I'm glad they have those because like back in the day when they didn't you know it was easy to get lost in things like this. The battle organizers like you know keeping people's initiative straight and stuff even i mean and that's like minimum but you know i'm glad they have it because without it. It would be really difficult for me sometimes. Those are more. I guess In what we're talking about is kind of how the actual environment you know works. Well i guess it were. I guess we're talking. Bubble for timed bubbles aids. We're talking about you know how the how to kind of create an environment that works better for your Players make some comfortable one thing. That surprised me in the article that i read was. Where's talking about. The end of the jewel was blind. And that the dm was like you know. Basically saying that they're player had to be blind or that the character had to be blind it. Yeah i thought that was glad. Frank come story and i was saying that i was thinking that that was pretty surprising. Pretty horrendous like i can't even imagine that but like i've been in In games were You know maybe not disabilities are mentioned. But we're like as a joke. It's like well. You know you couldn't do that because of this and it's like you know people don't need that as a reminder constantly it's not like they don't know you know it's not it's not like people like oh i didn't know that about myself freely. I saw. I have trouble reading exactly. It's like well you can't hit that because you're blind. It's like put. That's not how i made my character. I shouldn't be any idea. Like i don't know i would be surprised i would be. I would just leave a game. If if i saw someone do that like if they were the the. Dm you know they're like oh. Yeah you're this. It's like no 'cause everybody gets a character that they create and they're not locked in based on anything that they're dealing with firstly ridiculous set where it's well. Why would you want your character to be in a wheelchair. Because you're gonna milk chair. Well you you know. The magic is here to victory legs so therefore why. Don't you make your character wok. It's kind of like okay. But i should be able to play a character that is me at should be able to play myself and not half you know. Imagine what if right. No i get that. I think that both of those should be options that you should be able to. You know whatever makes you comfortable should be something you should be able to. I think the The term i feel like silly somehow separate but equal is like ali here but not here doesn't really apply but it doesn't apply i mean separate but equal is innocence. That late lutrana say that the games that they're put that they're putting out are equal for everybody the by one-size-fits-all for everyone in that everyone can go ahead and enjoy these games in have the same equal amount of enjoyment. But it's separate in the sense that we don't have everyone enjoying the same game is in the same groups by you. Know what i mean by that by like saint groups like we have different cliques like different People who associate with other people on either braise or ginger or Different hobbies or different politics things like that. So i'm just. I feel like this is kind of happening because people are opinionated one two they have their biases three There's there's always been A stigma against people who have a disability You know and a we're making strides as you know people in this country who Are fighting for the right to you. Know have happiness in america the Overall i believe that we have like this. Assist shoot i. I'm looking for a better way to say it because of separate but equal doesn't sound right. 'cause somebody else think of a better way of saying well i'm trying to say hello. Yeah i'm i'm just. I was hoping somebody else would have some of the better way of seeing what you're trying to say Because i feel like separate but equal is like not the right way of saying it. But i don't think it's just not the right word but that's what i'm feeling like it is I mean i feel like maybe it's more of a matter of representation and accessibility Yet yeah that's it's We've got to have the ability to do these characters or have functions of the game mechanisms change to make it easier for us. Yes so How long have you been involved with the disabled Do the of the disabled birds go. Yes the skills. I'm sorry actually only started a couple of weeks ago and The growth was really pretty. Wrap at but We're looking now at starting up discord as well so that people can kind of chat and get support in a setting. that's a little more relaxed and not like oh the entire internet's reading our conversation. You know okay. Because i was just about to ask you if the groups open if there if other people could find the group if they're looking for 'cause i'm sure that there are other gamers who are looking for the space like this they can find it. It is open For search but we do have The actual conversations hidden right now so you have to be a member and currently were only allowing members of the disabled community and their carers So north had messages from a few people that have said. Hey i'm a dm and i won. And how i can help better. Could i join and we've just kind of you know right now with groups cy young. We want to make sure building that community first and then allowing people depend give their opinion on it up further bites. it's some. It's interesting just how many people jumped at the opportunity. How many many people said yeah. I wanna stay like this and A lot of people's while saying you know. I want to share accessibility articles or things like that in these groups but every time they get posted it just it. It breaks down so fast. It's it's always the same sorta comments as well. Like i said about the. Why would you wanna do that if you could do this. And they answer. I've always kinda gave. Is that like not all of us. Want to get rid of our mobility aids. The second became because they are an extension of our person extension of will be part of new york therefore we should have the ability to use. And i think some people start to get that but every time the topic comes up. It's it's another issue and the same issues and now we've got this The new accessible dungeons. And i mean when you actually look at it from a dungeon builder's standpoint rams make a lot sense in it. Engine by people still are. They're labeling at his pc culture. That's really been the big thing i've seen. Which is just so frustrating. The reason right husband. And i had this conversation on his podcast last week as well was because he saw people and i wanna say like putting down because that that sounds not quite right but people that were just slamming the new dungeon systems. Like we'll doesn't make any sense. Step serve important than how are you going to do. A dungeon crawling with a wheelchair. Mabel your weapon and he got really really angry. And i think at first he didn't realize why he was so angry until he looked at me. And kinda said it feels like they're attacking you that it feels like they're attacking my wife that they're saying she doesn't belong in these games certainly see that Interpretation amazing because a lot of discourse is often about you know nicole's of the game and such as you know venture nerds but that definitely Hearing when you happen to be someone that's wanting representation or wanting accessibility in doubly feel like pat. Even if the people don't even know they're saying stuff that they really jumping in a lot of them. Try and frame it to as well if i was in a wheelchair. I wouldn't wanna have to play my character that way. It's like cool are you know. Shut up And then there's also people are like oh. Would you couldn't do that. Any little cherry couldn't do that with a walker and it's like wonderful. How do you know how have you ever used a wheelchair for pursuing story. You use the wiltshire having you wiltshire m my body. There's chris like crazy. These people like every the community. You know the able bodied community as a whole still very much. Has this like it's either cool of your life. But i don't wanna see it or its inspiration so as now why are they building these ramps. And why can't i park closer. Why why is it a problem. If i parked near the access ramp or it's oh oh brave as i reach up to grab a can of pringles store like why. I'm just trying to live a life. Yeah the cripple punk movement. Have you heard about this one okay. So there's something called the cripple punk movement. And i love it. It's a rejection of inspiration for it saying you know fuck you. I'm gonna live my life you know the way. I'm living my life and has nothing to do with you. And yet no i'm not gonna oh i am just thankful to be alive because sometimes it sucks and also i'm not and so it's it's really amazing powerful it from the stable disabled community to take back the narrative And that's very much. How i come at it then. People are lucky you to how your dog with you everywhere. And i'm like yeah that's because if i didn't i'd fall and break my face. He's a he's a working dog. It so yeah it's of. I've found a lot of power in it but yeah it's it's crippled pond or For people who are uncomfortable the terminology or a part of the disabled community. They label it as c. punk. But it's really kinda google do some research into it. It makes a lot more science. But it's very empowering to be able to say like screw inspiration porn screw. your ideas of what. The good disabled persons should be and let me live my life. Because i'm no different than you right. I was going to mention earlier. It sounds like Because i don't happen to play tabletop that much or really at all But it sounds like a whole bunch of people that happened to be disabled being told what to do. Yeah yeah it's Yeah it's well i can magically clearly lay cut cure your legs so in the game your character can walk and won't that be so wonderful for you to experience it. I'm sorry who says i have a problem. With my limited mobility mobile show mixed signals. I noticed going on there. Also i have to say term inspiration born and i love it. Because i'm used to hearing the term virtue signal. Yeah it's similar but different but yet the inspiration foreign is a lot of like this I mean i guess a lot of what i tied in like. Oh this w w mpg. But he crying climbed everest. So what's stopping you. And he's amazing despite of his disability and blow like okay. that's an executor. That's just an amazing thing to do wide. We have to constantly mess mentioned that it was. Oh aunties disabled it. I think it's not that that if it was oh so and so did this amazing thing and they also suffer from m. s. It would be different but so much of the media surrounding things like that are cancer patient. Does this Now disease or disability focused or sometimes they don't even get the name mentioned girl who had arm amputated is model for new type of prosthetic and flake. Okay how 'bout mary sue. Who had her arm amputated due to such and such is testing new prosthetics played by sucking such company. It's a smell language shift. But it's something that i think people don't notice is no it no it. That's a very small but powerful language shifts because it empowers the person gives them back the ability to take back some form of mobility through The up through media yeah wellman. It's also like you get You get something quite like the manic pixie dream girl trope where it's the the inspirational cripple for. Its oh i am here to shoot you a wonderful lesson about who lucky you are not be like me. And then i die the end virtually. That's a lot of what the representation that dismay disabled community a gets in movies and tv. Unfortunately they deal. That's why there was such a positive reaction to Vikings with i've armless. She gets her familiar with the lord. All i had not show vikings. I'm aware of so. I are boneless wasn't actual biking now if we're gonna make an a an allowance small allowance for the theology in the galaxy. Note that i am It there is some matter of translation on whether or not bone list or were legless was the word and it's It could've just meant that. He was impotent. By the way vikings interpreted it was that he actually had Brittle bone disease so on this show they show him. You know crying. On elbows to get to his son they show him on the ground slashing at enemies At one point he's built a special chariot in which he is strapped upright so that he can ride dual wielding into battle screaming and the homeland of oh cool So is really this amazing moment representation and it's was contrasted allot Brand and game of thrones where it's like. Oh poor me to be carried. But look i am magic boy you know. The basically. what is chapters. Were viking the book so it was a really great especially because those two shows are a little bit similar in terms of kind of like atmosphere and mood. It's been kind of an interesting contrast but yeah the the disabled community was really excited to see that they were showing someone who had a disease. That's still very much presence and show them still being this amazing bad ass warrior while that's incredible There's some great scenes that you'll see literally propped up on the floor against a wall with his legs sprawled out in front of him and covered in blood with a sport in each hand. The screaming at the enemy. That's running adam and it's just so powerful and so in your face powerful. I think we did a really amazing job with it. Well now. I definitely want to watch it. This is just route. You're in that led the scadden that description of that performance alone Yeah it's it's very cool Because like i said you know a lot of what you see is not bad. And i think to go completely different genres with it That you know this is what i wished. The movies had covered more but dead pool as a character is a chronic pain patient and yes the and on his obviously he's not all role model. I think anyone who thinks he is missing the point In the comics they show ally he will in a fetal position and mutter about his skin harding or he not his past trauma and as someone who has chronic pain and to has ptsd. I really identified with him as a character. And i wish that they had shown that more in the movies like touched on it but i think it was one of those things that they decided they wanted to the comedy full over the last decade has leaned way more the as far as representation. I can think of one that. I enjoy Played it i. Last is hell blades. Sacrifice is one of the few video games. I know that where the protagonist actually severely mentally ill. But it's not like oh she's a crazy person for everything. It is set in a century scandinavia and it is fiction of course but she does you'll with Having police and nations and representation is really good. I was just gonna say. I've seen you and a couple of other people play this game A little bit. And i just watching the game and knowing the premise of the game i feel really connected one to already almost always almost always still connected to game that talk about mental health because of my disabilities mental health. And so you know the the medically was a connection there. But for some reason would siniora's Let's see was Health laid sacrificed I really wants to play this game. Because i specifically bill like it talks a lot about my particular illness and it it. It's a lot like. Oh my gosh. When i describe what it's like one i'm having delusions kinda like sitting outside of yourself and not being able to do anything about what's going on because you can still you're still experiencing everything you are. You still see everything that's going on you hear solutions but you know that their delusions but you can't stop it. It's like a show that starts and can't stop until it's finished and the is something the game definitely conveyed very well One of the ways it actually conveyed this is through by our. I can never pronounce it correctly. But by arl audio and This is basically where he Things are very specifically in the left and right speaker s and the is dynamic because they know man with a microphone spinner room and everyone. That's acting in the scene is moving around. It looks cool. I'll check it out. You know one of the games that. I really enjoyed which is going to sound like such a cliche or counterintuitive choice but Alice madness returns. I loved that really loved the way that that cam talked about know. Obviously it was a revenge fantasy. If we're going to be honest an abuser the for me. It was so cathartic As a survivor of trauma to play through this game. Where you're being able to fight a physical manifestation of those mental stars and see how that's being affected by what's going on in the world really. We was something that was started for being really enjoyable for me. And so it's definitely be day might enjoy. Yeah i do so much love. The arctic heard of that. In fact that i kind of felt we share about what alice madness returns did really well in my opinion and have done more of is hurt interactions in the regular world when things sort of transform into wonder like because the way Phil i actually also do have the disclosure so the way you can feel sometimes when interacting with someone just every day and then everything kinda goes haywire in your mind. Unveil that really. Well yeah. I think One of the scenes especially when she's walking into me hospital room and she has a flashback. And then all of a sudden visibly see these screws that are coming through the walls. I think that really was really good. Visual show of how it feels to me when all of a sudden all of the fighter flight. Something's wrong danger. Responses are going off. And you know you're in a normal comfortable citing but just everything is is saying no danger enter danger night. They did really well with that. The i'm trying to think of for disabled in games. The probably the rest i would go to are probably not great. Examples of characters One representation not necessarily incur- in games. That i'm thinking of but M mostly in comp culture or more specifically angi Comic books would be Am batman the most Most significant one. I can think of would be barbara miller Who is the oracle in In the batman series. I can't remember which series that is but or which comic book series that is but if Anyone knows anything about batmans. Barbara miller is Someone who she is. The commissioner's daughter as she becomes entangled. Up into a an ultra mean. barbara gordon. Farber gordon i where did i get miller. Gosh oh varma. Miller song who i know. Okay yes i'm sorry scowl. I'll unsa sorry barbara gordon. Yes my bat Yes so first. Gordon is commissioner dr commissioner gordon's daughter. And of course She gets kidnapped and basically she at the end of her ordeal. She is left in a wheelchair and The lower half of her body is not accessible. the she's left in a wheelchair and she's she was at the top of her era of her career at the time before her disability. And she was. I believe not mistaking. She was going to get married but Then old that happened and Yeah So i think that particular series portrays barbara gordon. Very well and Folks with disabilities this pretty well but not everyone. It just connolly is on to Folks who are in you'll chairs but That was the most prominent example of someone who i could think of and the most heroic example of song who i could think of who was disabled and comics because she later became that woman no she was bat woman and then she became disabled the became the oracle one of the things i had noticed that are i keep coming back to whenever i see this conversation around the battle. Chairman accessible dungeons is the kind of feels like the avatar effect as james cameron's avatar where you've got a main characters in wheelchair and then the first chance they get. Oh let's find a way to get him out of it. Look he's not in it anymore. Where it's like okay. Well yeah but can we have a character who still in it and still does cool things please. you know. There was a television series that Of several years back. I was watching with family On eighty seven. And i don't remember what it was called but It was an alien show where there is like an invasion of aliens coming in and there was a a a a two sheriffs in one of them for disabled he had he was amputee. At some point in the show he becomes hill and it's miraculously and he's like he's all happy and everything and the other sheriff. He happens to be an alien and he's all like oh no. We gotta go ahead and chop off your arm again because one of us and if anyone finds out that your arm is been hild it won't we can't explain that so we gotta chop off your arm and you know it cuts to the scene where it just goes to the scene where you just see trees and you're screaming and a chain saw in the background is just like oh my god that. That's so horrendous. But i thought that was interesting because it was like it was a reversed of like one of going from being disabled to you know being hill then suddenly you have to go back you not because you want to but because you have to for two three survival will this to me or this reminds me of Something i learned when i was taking. Asl class i wanted the things you learn asl classes the culture which some people are completely familiar with but so huge algae. Exactly one of the things. That's interesting is it. I've watched a movie about a death. Family that their One of their children was being offered the possibility of device that would allow them to here and It was a big issue because that's their culture and it was like this is what we are. Why would you wanna leave that. We'll be able to hear music. It's like old music doesn't mean anything to me. He i've never heard it. And i don't i just don't care about that. That's on important episode of that on house to that. The breaking of out volley was out. They gave a clear implants and he came to and the parents were so happy because they okayed it but he was angry because his death girlfriend still couldn't hear. And i remember that being a really powerful episode and thinking i don't know how as a parent you could do that your child without your child's profession right exactly to find out yeah they don't exactly yeah power of attorney his child so yeah go ahead do it. And he came to. He was like take it out. Take it out. You know what that comes into the whole thing of excise and chicken since And you know you're bought his body or their body being their body and your body being your body. Sure the other way around and that whole thing comes from and tactic ism. But we're not gonna get into that because that's the other discussion for another day that i don't even want to really discuss south a whole another time in my life that i i don't wanna talk about really anyway yet i. I'll take some of the values of an attack activism. I mean as opposed to taking the whole movement with me. I suspect the movement. But you know. I don't i don't go out and actually protests with an intact in case any of your wonder what an attack the is somebody who goes. You're wondering what an intact misses. I am okay an intact this is someone or a someone who basically believes in having an intact because he or an intact person Meanings says they do not go through circumcision. Or whether it be female or mill circumstance all so And they are the. They're completely against all of that and they protest all of that The actively Worked against organizations that you know try and Neo do routine. Circumcisions and hospitals witcher Probably one of the leading causes of infant deaths in america And it act the way too much information about this point. There was a point where i had pictures of baby baby. Jump on my on my on. My computer brother was going through it and it was wonder what's going on here because i'll up put together. You know posters pro. You know flyers in propaganda material. Who's for you know the go protest at the time. But i don't do that. So yeah i and that computers have been destroyed. So yeah yeah i'm not a pedophile. Okay is trying to get at. How okay only who ease back to the conversation at hands Please i've totally lost wherever you were Same here i'm sorry Well we're talking about. We're talking about the deaf community and then we only talked about. Oh yes the Concerned with the co implant. The episode of house. Yes correct right but yeah certainly I i don't think it has to be reiterated. But i will do it. Here is anyone that happens to have a disability or be any certain way inherently like has no obligation change. yeah. I hadn't even made the next before but i think talking about the book. Implants is an extremely good example of that. Yeah i mean it. The thing is is like if your dms all like well. This is an option. And even that's kind of weird too because like if if the constantly giving you options that are opposite to you. Know how you're playing your character and you're not looking for those options and that would be very awkward. You know if every session it's like so jila till you new legs. Oh hey this guy's got this ability now you can fly. That'd be great right. It's like you know dude stopping. Can we just could we just play venture and not not do this every session of be great. 'cause i'm just saying i'm probably going to find another place to play pretty soon on the placement. He did the opposite of that too. Because you know. I mentioned may my character earlier. Who's the half orc barbarian who dresses in frilly. Lolita dresses mom. The entire basis was fair. That character was that she had the childlike flawed due to childhood trauma and so for most of the campaign. She is a fully grown very strong barbarian but she basically has the mentality of a seven seven year old. And then would have these breakthroughs where she very much was. you could tell that underneath. She was conscious of what was really going on. And so you know. I wouldn't fill out ceo. It was dissociate identity disorder. Obviously i'm not part of that community. That's not something. I can speak on but it was the way that i believe in that. She put herself at a safe space. And the rest of the the group. Oliver companions became so enthralled with her being the sweet lovely and that must be protected that this evil campaign of evil party members began to find ways to make it accessible for her. So we're going drinking at the pub. You will tell the bartender advance. You're not allowed to give her anything out the hallway and you know it just became a really amazing exercise in you know. It takes a village Now those quite a fun game to play right well. So what is our conclusion on this. If i mean obviously we're not going to you know it's not immediately solvable or anything like that. But what is what are takeaways. I guess is what. I'm asking so that you know people listening. Have some ways in which to deal with people in such a really really important thing is to make sure that you're putting the person with the disability at the forefront of the conversation that you should be listening to their voices an amplifying their voices and remembering that it is individual that it's always going to be on a case-by-case basis but you need to let them have those discussions make us where it's comfortable to do that I know one of the ways we do it. I don't have you ever heard of the rpg consent checklist. Yes do that for our campaigns and discussing advance and so that's a really good time you know session zero to say. Hey we've got a character who's planning in a wheelchair. Is this something that during the campaign you'd like to change or is this something that you'd like us to have accessible dungeons and that is an important thing to consider. That makes sense definitely can agree with those sentiments in Definitely agree with You those those those Tips there that you've given us in those takeaway is i would say one of the important things Takeaways i affirm our conversation is what kid doing with this disabled The group that quite obviously one hundred people in what a week you said. yeah yeah. That's obviously there's a huge market for it not to call it market out there for it and i think as far as i can tell with a lot of tabletop gaming it will take a lot of having good social environments to figure out what these rules in changes should be. Yeah people need to feel comfortable talking about in order to make progress and this is in general. I'm not so sure but an area that a lot of people with disabilities might feel pushed out of right right and until you have an environment where those conversations can actually happen between the people who actually have the disabilities and the people that know had done. You're not gonna get much of anywhere beds. Reason definitely it seems to be like i think take kind of situation needs to happen. I think the culture shift to of acknowledging that the disabled community exists. And that you're not going to completely understand how their lives are is a really good first step. Sounds like a good a good point for sure and We definitely It it's definitely a A cool thing and we're glad to have had the time to talk about this and I think like like we all agree. It's a work in progress and definitely Keeping in mind the individual is always a good idea. 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