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"And people are surprised when this happens all the time, but you look at guys like Josh mccown, right? Colt McCoy, who just hang around the league forever and they don't really play, but they're there. That's because they're just valuable resources to have in the room. Hoyer is kind of hit that level. Like you said, teams are going to be worried about what he can do physically. Yeah. It's his value in that room. He's going to be in the league another 5 or 6 years, probably. I don't know. How old is he? That might be a little much, but he's a bold years of the two year deal. His rookies. He's 36. He could play four more years. Wouldn't account play two 40, 41. Right. Exactly. Yeah. All right, so we talked about Brian when we were talking about all these other signings, but obviously the news coming down here and a little bit over an hour ago. The Patriots are without JC Jackson. JC Jackson has moved on to the Los Angeles chargers, the Pats now going back to the drawing board at cornerback essentially outside of Jalen mills and Jonathan Jones coming back from that injury. Hang on, you want a breaking one here. This is actually interesting. Okay. Demar is from Tom Paul Sara just now. DeMarcus Lawrence has become the first defensive end in NFL history to have 7 straight seasons of his contract fully guaranteed. He's got a new three.
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"So this was quite the timing for Devin McCourty, but they did bring Devin mccordy back on a one year deal worth a total value of $9 million. We haven't officially gotten the exact salary structure yet, but your reaction to the Patriots bringing back Devin McCourty. This one felt like a bridge too far, meaning if they also lost Devon this off season, then now we're talking about a complete rebuild on defense and that would have been, I think, a complete disaster. Yeah, if they lost Devin McCourty on top of JC Jackson, I'd be with some of you in the comments. Talking about what are we doing? I saw somebody say 5 and 12. If they lost Devon two, I might be on board with that. People underrate the value he brings. I don't think people understand how important that position is on this defense. For whatever reason, it seems like a bunch of people only watch the Houston game last year talking about how he can't play outside of that game and look, he was bad in that game. I think he called it the worst game of his career. That game, this is a top ten free safety in football last year. Obviously top 5, but he was top ten. He's a very productive player. He's a good player. Getting him back when you're going to have a young, inexperienced secondary guy he's doing the system, having that voice back there is big. Daunte Hightower could leave too, so he's going to be your veteran leader on defense. So one year deal. The other thing is people are mad about the money. It's one year $9 million. He had void years in his contract that we're going to kick in. I think on the 16th. So by bringing Devin McCourty back on the deal they did, they actually opened up cap space in 2022. He would have cost them more to not play than it would to have him on the team the way his old contract was structured. That at no point it's a no brainer. Yes, they didn't have anybody behind him. Yes, that is an issue. And they should go out and try to at least take a shot in the dark on somebody this year who can maybe be the heir apparent. I don't know if it's daxton hill in the first round that feels a bit pricey. I would just want to look at day three options and if none of them hit, we talk about it being a primary need next year if McCourty ultimately hangs it up, but yes, getting him back for a number of reasons, a big, big deal. They got him in a good price again. They open cap money by signing him. It's not forget that..
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"Is go through the, you know, we call it a too deep, which is essentially the depth chart, right? What positions they put a red mark or highlight where they don't have a starter? Right tack, either right tackler left guard is highlighted right now. You know, if whatever you want to do with Michael and that's going to be a need, that's going to be a big need. It's not going to be a cheap need to fill primary positions on the offensive line, especially if they're going to fill out a tackle, yeah, that's now a question. So you're optimistic dog in brown coming back because I feel like most of the consensus thinking has been that he could go else when I try to chase a contract. Yeah, I'm pretty optimistic that he comes back because of all the things that he said during the season last year. And I get that money talks and eventually a patriots are going to have to shell out a competitive contract in order to keep him here. But the way I see it is that Trent Brown, numerous times, said that he personally feels comfortable playing for the Patriots. And that season that he spent with the two seasons he spent with the Vegas raiders, he was in a pretty dark place with the Raiders. I mean, a lot of things were happening off the field for him too with his brother and things like that. And his own personal health and there were other variables. That played into that. But I think for the most part, he felt like a fish out of water when he was in Vegas. And I don't see even if he chases the money. Elsewhere and money is obviously a great thing to have. I don't see necessarily him being a 100% comfortable with being elsewhere. At this point. And I do think that he would take a little bit more of a team friendly deal. You have to remember the Raiders, they gave him a lot of guaranteed money on that contract he signed. So he's sort of already made that money, right? He's already gotten right back once before. So it's not like he's never gotten paid. I think there is a chance that the Patriots could get Trent Brown to come back on a more team friendly deal..
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"It's not going to be at the price point that JC Jackson was, but somebody like I threw out this morning in Darius Williams from the rams who does have a lot of experience and exposure to his own coverages. So maybe that does tell you at their pointed it more of that direction. I think he's a potential ad for them. Somebody like Kyle fuller, now I think becomes a little bit more of a realistic possibility. We've talked about James bradberry or trading for James Bradbury in the past. Now, I think they're going to turn their attention to those lower price points, try to get some value at that cornerback spot. And essentially add another Jalen mills like player. And so that they can go into the draft. Hopefully draft somebody with some higher upside down and then go about it that way. I want to talk about the zone thing in a second. But what do you think about the rest of this cornerback market and who is somebody that you have your eye on that you wouldn't mind seeing them obviously make an fair offer to somebody that the realistic possibility? I don't even know at this point. I mean, it's not like, oh, you can't replace JC Jackson thing. This is outside of Jackson Davis, just a really weak market. And that's why I'm surprised. You kind of laid it out there, Jackson's deal is worth more than it ultimately looks on paper. It's not as shockingly below market is maybe it felt at first. I'm still surprised, especially with the way the wide receiver market is just absolutely popping off. I'm still surprised he ended up getting more of that, just compared to what else is out there again behind him and Davis. You know, I'd like to say Stefan Gilmore in theories to find Gilmore is the right guy for this situation on a one year deal. Who knows what the hell that situation is though? Darius Williams is somebody you've brought up, charvarius ward. I don't hate the idea of Joe Hayden on a one year deal and then, you know, you put a kid next to him like booth or elam like an investment, right? I don't as much as I've been talking about it because I think it's something that's worth a talking point. I wouldn't go to zone. I wouldn't go to zone. I wouldn't do that. Even if that's maybe even if that's maybe easier in the short term, there's a reason it's easier to get zone corners. There's a reason it's easier to play zone defense. I still want to see them try to pursue me in corners. I think you go one year veteran, you go with a kid and then you read it and bradberry is interesting too. I didn't say Bradbury because I was looking at the list of free agents. Bradbury, you know, I'm not exactly sure what his value is on the trademark. I.
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"It's a long day, all right? A 5 year 82 and a half $1 million deal for JC Jackson with the Los Angeles chargers, getting the bag indeed $40 million guaranteed $26 million signing bonus from the Chargers. Now, on the surface, I understand that people take this deal and they say 82 and a half divided by 5 is only like 16 and a half $1 million per year. That's not that much for JC Jackson, but you have to look at the way that the contract pays him out in the first couple years, $40 million guaranteed in the first two seasons fully. He's getting walking away after the first two years with 40 million bucks. After the third season, he's walking away with $54 million. So I reported earlier today at the best offer I heard the Patriots made around the combine, which JC Jackson corroborated with Phil Perry just now that that is when the Patriots made their offer was a three year $51 million deal. Three years worth a total value of $51 million. So we're getting a little caught up in the APYs. The Patriots were never close to making an offer as big as what the Chargers gave JC Jackson here today. And that right there is just what it all kind of sums it all up. The Patriots were never going to go here, Alex. They were never going to go this big with JC Jackson and he moves on to the Chargers and now the Patriots have some work to do in their secondary. Yeah, you know, and you go back to, if people want to be mad at the team, I don't know that today is what you're mad about. I think if you go back to them, not using them for the franchise tag and either making sure you keep them for one more year or trying to work on that long-term deal. Yeah, no, they've got their work cut out for them. Again, it was something we all thought would happen. They've kind of been behind the 8 ball at cornerback. This is multiple years coming. This isn't just out of nowhere if you're surprised suddenly that they're short a quarter, you really haven't been following along, but this becomes a theme. You know, I published my patriots biggest needs this morning before everything started. I have cornerback listed first. I also have cornerback listed third boundary corner specifically. It's that kind of situation. And we talked about this a little bit before. Darren a spot with Hightower and Bentley also pending free agents, they either have the option to or might have to, depending on how you look at it, overhauled not just their defense personnel, but their defensive scheme..
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"With the Patriots specifically, look, he's my wider, if he's healthy right now, he's my wife's even one in this class. And he's a top ten pick and we're not even bringing him up. But my thing with Williams is it relates to the Patriots is I remember like they've had so much trouble developing receivers. In remember with Harry, he got off to that great start and then he heard his hamstring in Detroit in the preseason game in like three years later, really has never caught up to where he was. And I think, you know, some of that's on him, some of that's on the team. They try to rush him back from that injury, which was bizarre, and if they take a wide receiver in the first round and I don't think they have a shot at it, it was in the second round. That's why I feel different about matchy because I think you can get him later. If you take a wide receiver in the first round, he has to work. He has to work. I think you're putting maximum development on the line with that. I don't want a guy, I'm not putting that much on a guy who won't be there for many camp for OTAs for training camp, right? That first, that first off season, preseason is so, so crucial to a wide receiver's development. And instead, you're going to have him not just coming into the team cold, coming into the NFL cold in October or November, and then you look at the way this coaching staff is set up, I just don't, I think it's a tremendous risk to try to wedge his development into all of that. Right. Especially given that the way they've struggled to develop receivers in the past, well, now you have to develop a guy again, but you're four months behind schedule in the seasons going on. That part just worries me. Yeah, that's why I got it on Williams. And again, met she's different for a couple of reasons..
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"He's going to be a nose tackle. He has to be a nose tackle. He might be able to play like a over guard or shade it over the guard, but he's going to be a nose tackle. He's going to be in the middle of the line. You're probably going to take him off the field on third down. He's been well fork, right? That's the type of place. I still think you're underselling him his pass rusher, but okay. Maybe I am. I think that there was a lack of exposure in that sense that Georgia, right? Because they brought on their Devante Wyatt's and their Trayvon walkers and they brought on the next wave of their pass rush talent, right? They basically had lime changes when they felt like they got into passing situations. So maybe on a team that wants to stick with the same core group and is it rotating guys as much out? Like Georgia did, there's a difference here. It's the same thing I should mention. The same thing happened to Christian barmore at Alabama, right? Alabama went ten deep on the defensive line. So he didn't always play, right? It wasn't because he wasn't awesome. He just didn't always play. So maybe Jordan Davis has some untapped potential there as a password. I will say, if you're going to single block Jordan Davis in the past rush, good luck anchoring against his bull rush, right? Is that a guy like Jordan Davis might not give you the on ball production of a Christian bar more, for example, in terms of pressures and sacks and things like that. But he's going to occupy guys and give single blocks to everybody else. So if they try to single them with the center or with the guard over the nose, that guard is going to get walked back into the quarterback by Jordan Davis. So you have to have that as a category in his pass rush ability. This is bull rush his ability to dent or collapse the pocket. But again, let's get back to the question. I so lean towards Davis. I like the idea if they bring JC Jackson back. I actually like the idea of drafting booth even more because I think pairing JC Jackson with Andrew booth is the Patriots, no fly zone in 2022, right? Like I think that has real potential, maybe not 2022, but if you're signing JC to a four year contract and you're drafting boot now in 2023, 2024, 2025, you're going to have a really dominant secondary, right? Yeah. But at the same time, I love a lot of it. So this is a really tough one. I don't know where I go with it..
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"Tom pill acero put him on a list of a future head coaches, palo Sara puts us out every single year, Gerard may always on it almost every single year. Nick Kayleigh made it for the first time this year. I would much rather put Joe judge with the tight ends, you go coach hunter Henry, who already knows what the heck he's doing anyways, right? And somebody like Nick Kayleigh get a different role as the quarterbacks coach. But is Kayleigh is Kayleigh also the play caller. Again, is consumption. I would rather the play caller also be the quarterbacks coach. Matt is something that needs to be in lockstep. I mean, obviously for years, Josh McDaniels was sort of the quarterback's coach and The O.C.. Even last year, they also had both heart agree. So I guess that's kind of what I'm saying is like a Tyler Hughes, maybe it's somebody outside the organization. We don't know of yet. Right. That's more who I'm looking for. I'm not saying you're wrong about Kayleigh with being the quarterbacks. Guy like, I would actually agree with that. But even then, if Kayleigh's the play caller, you know, if Kayleigh's with the quarterbacks and judges calling plays, then I guess I'm good. In terms of the quarterback coach, I don't know that that's how I want to structure it with the play caller. But if Caylee is going to be the play caller, even if he is the quarterbacks coach, give me that, but hard agree, give me somebody else is just around in the room, you know, because something we heard would just be. Like, they could just think that's who. I guess it's like, something we heard a lot about Mac last year in camp, and we heard this from cam from Cam Newton, was that he showed up right away asking questions. He was always asking questions. I don't want there to be a spot where he is a question. There's nobody around to answer it. That's basically where I'm at with Mac. And I just want somebody around to answer the question. That's pretty much that's my deal. Fair enough. And I guess if it's Brian, I'd like there to be a dedicated coach, but I guess if it's bright, they do need a pack of quarterback. They do. And right now, I guess they do have one..
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"And to answer a question in the chat, could it Gilmore return happen? Even if it did, at this point, if you swapped Jackson for Gilmore, secondary's worse than it was last year. Stefan Gilmour was good in Carolina. He was perfect. He was a defensive player of the year staff. Like, I'll put it bluntly to you, Evan. Week one, next year, who'd you rather have forget the money? Just you get to be one of these guys out there. Jackson Gilmore, who'd you rather have as your starting corner? Probably Jackson, but I do, look, I think the bridge is not burned in terms of, I think it's Stefon Gilmore, doesn't have any ill will towards the Patriots organization on the whole. I don't see them bringing him back. It doesn't make much sense. But there is a debate there. I do think if you want to play devil's advocate Alex Stefan Gilmore at two for 24 versus four for 72. Okay. Casey Jackson, right? I think that one thing that you could look at with a guy like Gilmore and I look at this free agency class in Gilmore is really the only one that I could think of doing this. If you want to go 2017 and say, who is this Stefon Gilmore to JC Jackson's Malcolm butler? Then maybe it'd be like somebody like Carlton Davis, who's a free agent with Tampa Bay right now. But I don't think Carl and Davis is Stephon Gilmore 2017, right? He was a later draft pick. He's got some limitations and some flaws to his game as well. I don't think that it hurt a lot too. Yeah, I don't think that he's in that category. I think the one thing that you look at with Gilmore is if you could potentially bring somebody like Gilmore back, it does buy you time to develop that next guy, right? It does buy you another year or two to do it. I don't think it's going to happen just because of all the politics that happened obviously recently with Gilmore, but I look at this draft and I see, okay, could they bring a bridge like a Gilmore in for a year or two? Draft Kyler Gordon have him develop for a year and then become the number one or draft kair elam from Florida, have him develop for a year or two and then become the number one. Maybe that's a solution for them, but I still feel like this is way over complicating it and we're just getting back to the point of just pay JC Jackson and be done with it. And I can't get off that point no matter how many different scenarios I come up with in my head of, oh, they could drive booth or they could do this or they could do that. I mean, at the end of the day the simplest thing to do is just.
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"Yeah, look, I mean, it's an important role for sure. We saw what happened this year when the Patriots lost Jonathan Jones. It's essentially the role you're describing, right? So I just don't, you know, I don't know that trading, again, you have to, if you're not bringing back Jackson, you need to add somebody who you believe can actually be your number one outside corner. Booth, maybe I think you can. Depending on what, depending on what pick they get, but again, I think you have to get a top 20 pick. I don't think boots making it to 21. So booth is the wild card here. Outside of him, I just don't think there's a situation where you deal Jackson and you get that you get that number one cornerback. I just don't think that happens and then okay, you can still try to round things out, but the secondary is going to be an absolute mess. You're going into what should be, you know, it's such a good building block here and year one, now all of a sudden, it feels like you're taking a step backwards. If you ending something spectacular, if you move on from JC and Jonathan Jones, can't play outside to answer the question in the chat. Right. If you move on from JC Jackson, right? The secondary is going to be worse than it was last year. Yes. I feel comfortable pretty much. Again, outside something spectacular. You know, GE or Alexander holds out in Green Bay to get your hands on them, right? Right. If you move on from JC Jackson, the secondary is going to be worse than it was last year. Period full stop. So if you think the best course of action is to tag and trade JC Jackson, just know what you're saying is, I am comfortable with the patriot secondary's worse than it was last year. And there's people who make that argument. There's some people who say, well, instead of giving JC Jackson 17 million, you give 10 million to wide receiver and then 5 million to a corner and then you have 2 million to play with. You're staring at a situation where Eli Apple and Jalen mills are starting out. And you are counting on Mac Jones in that offense to average over 30 points a game. You are basically saying we're going to take this money. We're going to put it into the offense and we're going to win every game and shootouts..
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
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Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
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"And I saw something he wrote about how you're going with this. I know we were going to passer rating in the interceptions. Yep. Yeah. And bob is a 100% right on that. And people probably heard me say it over the years. I've heard Aaron Rodgers in his locker talk about his passer rating and like his quote is completion percentage and passer rating and things like that. And I've never heard that from a cornerback quarterback before, at least a good quarterback who only cared about winning. And so bob talked about how Aaron east thinks specifically against the forty-niners that Aaron didn't throw into tight windows passed on it as opposed to Jimmy Garoppolo because he worried about how it would affect his passer rating. Now, I didn't think that watching the film, it could very well be the case. But I will tell you, Aaron started off his career basically saying, I'm going to be the anti breadth farf. I'm not going to make it about me. I'm going to be a great teammate. I'm going to get along with my teammates. I'm not going to be reckless. I'm not going to throw interceptions. Of course, he turned into a lot of that by the end. He turned it into far of exactly with all the drama and loving needing affirmation and all this stuff. But Aaron absolutely knew what his passer rating was and would pass on basically, you know, like, you know, throwing like he ended up doing later in his career, but early on his career, he wouldn't throw like halftime heaves like into the end zone, worrying about getting picked off and affecting his passer rating. You know, when there were times where he passed on throwing in a tight winner, windows, specifically because he didn't want to a cheap interception and that to hurt his statistics. And so I just, when I saw that, I thought a Mac Jones because we already saw Mac Jones this year, there were a couple of times, including the buffalo playoff game where I think he had two interceptions in that game. But one was like a forced desperation type of thing. And we've seen him do that in other games, where he's just, he throws it up and double coverage, hoping to make a play to ignite his team. And you know, I was impressed by that during the year that you could tell. Mac Jones doesn't give a crap about his stats. He probably has no idea what his stats are. You know, yes, you know, his completion percentage is too high at times. And he's been coached on that that like, you know, sometimes you gotta push the envelope a little bit more. And he'll do that as he gets older. But I just thought that was interesting because I think that Mac Jones in many ways is sort of.
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"jc jackson" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"So I think that's the option. Now, I came to that because I asked an NFL source from a team who would be in the market for a quarterback. He told me they are not interested in JC Jackson. They will be interested in other cornerbacks. He said, I don't think the Patriots will tag him because I don't think they want to pay him like top of the market. They think he's a starter, not a top 5 corner. And he said, better be ready for him to be on your team at that price point if you tag him. So, you know, the thing about free energy Nick is it only takes one team. You know, it could be, you know, the LA rams could say screw it, we don't care what the price tag is and we're signing the guy. Or the Chargers or some deep pocket team that has a lot of cap space that says, screw it. You know, we're just going to sign the guy and we really like them. And that's all it takes. It only takes one team. You know, the 31 other teams could say, JC Jackson's a top ten cornerback and we're not going to pay him like top 5. But if one team says, we really like JC Jackson, we're so desperate at cornerback. We're going to pay him then, boom, he's gone. He's going to get paid top 5. But I think that it's now coming into form that.
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"jc jackson" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"Well, you know, and I went through that and my number one option if I am Bill Belichick, I'm eyeing a tag and trade. And I looked back, it's gone basically crazy in the last two years. That and I have the wrong year on Jarvis lander getting traded. But there have been 5 tag and trades in recent years in the NFL. You know, you had Yannick in gawk way, went for a second and a 5th judeo and Clowney went for two players, a third round pick, Frank Clark, and a third went for a first a third and a second, he got an extension from Casey, it would be the same sort of thing because you have to in a tag and trade, you have to factor in. All right, well, this new team is going to have to give him a new deal to make it worthwhile for them. It's going to have to be in place. They're going to have to talk to Jackson and his representatives. So you're going to have to have a good extension in place. D Ford got an extension from the going from KC to San Francisco. Went for a second round pick. Jarvis Landry went for a fourth and a 7th got an extension going from Miami to Cleveland. So this has been happening more and more. Of late. And what's going for the Patriots is that, look, we've seen it all this year. There is a dearth of good cornerback play in this league. Every team has some sort of cornerback needs, even the Patriots. There are not enough to go around and so if you're a team who perhaps is a little bit more sold on JC Jackson off the field or willing to take the risk, then you say, all right, well, look, I can get a starting caliber cornerback right now. A good starting caliber cornerback at the very least, who could grow to be more. He's 26. He's coming into his.
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"jc jackson" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"Receiver are Jalen mills is the top at 20 million $20 million. You know, it basically goes down from there. So right around top 5, if JC Jackson thinks he's a top 5 corner, which I think he does, you're talking at least $18 million a year, if not trying to supersede Jalen mills at $20 million. And it's Jalen. Yeah, you said Jalen mills twice. He means Jalen Ramsey. So no one Ramsay. Nobody attacks Greg on Twitter. He means Jalen Ramsey, obviously, not making 20 million. Yeah, I don't think an extension is going to happen. I don't see it. I find it almost less likely than letting him walk into free agency. The third option is tag Jackson, plan on him playing Greg and then see what happens from there. How do you feel about that? Well, the first two options I put is long shots for now. Until we have more of a discussion after the break. This is where I start seeing realistic options for the Patriots. And I put this one is 35% tag Jackson plan on him playing this year because you don't really have any other options. Draft a guy, let him develop maybe a year from now you have this first or second round pick plus John wade ready to go a year from now and you let JC Jackson walk and you get the compact or you do the tag and trade, whatever. You know, depending on what kind of season JC Jackson has. You know, I think this is, I think this is a decent plan. If I'm the Patriots, I'm open to it for a couple different reasons. Nick, number one is JC Jackson has been underpaid his entire career. So the Patriots could justify, you know, so basically he's made about $6 million in his previous four years. Right. That's one thing that I brought up about JC Jackson, maybe not being crazy about the Patriots and wanting a contract extension here. One of those is that last year, the Patriots made the wise business decision to give JC Jackson a second round restricted free agent tender. Which is basically what you get if somebody else signs him to a contract, you let him go. The Patriots had the option of putting a first round tag tender on JC Jackson. And they decided not to do that. I thought he was worth it. It was about it would have been about $1.3 million more last year to give him a first round tender. I understand why the Patriots didn't do it. It was the wise decision. Nobody had any cap space. It was good for the team..
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"jc jackson" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"Let's jump right into it, Greg this week. We're talking JC Jackson. A lot of comments to Phil Perry of NBC sports Boston coming out yesterday. Of course, the franchise tag window is now open. I believe it's march 8th is the deadline, what are the Patriots going to do with JC Jackson? We have options. Let's start with the first option. They can let him walk into free agency for a 2023 compensatory pick. How do we feel about that option? And how do we feel about what JC said yesterday? All of what JC Jackson said to fill, I mean, none of it surprised me. I mean, that's sort of where they are. It's the way the Patriots do business. I mean, they're not. They're not one of these teams that are going to be one of these needy teams that are going to be checking in and being like, hey, we love you in this and that. And you know, so that turns off some guys, but they're just, they're about their business. And, you know, most NFL teams are that way. I mean, basically, they're getting through the season. They're going through staffing changes. You know, the combine is next week and I will be there for part of the week. So I'll be able to catch up with a bunch of people and, you know, hopefully get some good Intel at what's going on. But, you know, really free agency doesn't start until I think it's the 14th, you know, when the tampering period starts around that time, it's not unusual that the Patriots aren't saying anything. I mean, they're still probably formulating their plans. So if JC is taking some sort of personal affront to that, I think that's an error. That JC Jackson said that the Patriots wanted the talk extension and he didn't want to during the season. That's not a surprise either. You know, once the season started, JC Jackson was basically better betting on himself. And he's that he's so close to unrestricted free agency, why would you suddenly take a contract extension that certainly wasn't going to be top in a market and blow you away? So, you know, I wasn't surprised by any of those comments. You know, as far as the options, a couple of things people need to keep in mind. If the Patriots tagged JC Jackson, he gets paid 17.3 million next season. For one season, if so once they do take that avenue, you have to look at it basically by two years because after that season comes up, you're back in the same situation again. So are you comfortable with tagging them again, which would be a 120%. Of that. So it would be 20.8 million in 23. And so that basically the reason I'm pointing that out is because any contract with JC Jackson has to start there at 30 38.1 million for two years guaranteed. As to start there, because that's the threat of the franchise tag..
Patriots Beat
"jc jackson" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"So just like all these yeah, you already have a huge gap there, but you just blew a ton of money on stuff that's border like you can move the cap around, right? And you can obviously get out of contracts like Nelson Aguilar's contract's gone off the books next year. So I think they're going to cut January. Well, they didn't have to eat a lot of dead cap if they cut Johnny but if they cut them after June 1, I think it's only 10 million. They can make something happen with John who potentially. The point I'm making with the cap is that I think that we have been sold and this is the one thing and I don't listen to his show from all the time, but the one thing I agree with Michael felger on is that patriots have sold us a bag of goods about the salary cap being social. Of course. I believe in Felder's cap is crap, you know, mental health. I think it's very easy. It can be easily. Very easily. And especially when you have the quarterback on a rookie deal, if the Patriots excuse for not paying JC Jackson is they don't have the cap to do it. That is absolutely bonkers. That is as far from the truth as it could possibly be. So this boils down to and they see the value in the player lining up with the contract and they don't want to overpay the player. But if you're going to overpaid Johnny Smith and you're going to overpay Nelson Aguilar and you're going to overpay some of these other guys that you did in free agency last year and then not overpaid JC Jackson a little bit to keep them here and I think that you're talking out of both sides of your math. Yeah, yeah yeah that is a tough one to swallow. Again, the end of the day comes down to whether the Patriots believe Jackson is truly a number one, in which case I believe they'll pay him or whether they believe that he needs to get paid like a one, but he's not a one in which case, I think they look to move him. And because we don't know how they view it, that's where that's where it's going to be difficult to kind of predict how this goes. I do not believe based on everything Bill Belichick does, that he's going to look at his roster and say, if I lose a corner, I'm going to be in trouble. I think he's just going to figure it out. And if that's that, he's making a business decision. You know, irrespective of his team needs at this time because that's what it comes down to is I know I need it, but I'm not putting myself in a hole and I'm not paying for something I don't think is worth the money and he'll absolutely do that. We've seen that over time. You know, he will not be held hostage by team needs. Right or wrong. This isn't peak Tom Brady years. This is not the dynasty. I don't agree with the philosophy. Operating like that we can't do that anymore until Mac Jones hopefully ascends to MVP caliber quarterback levels, right? Where he can carry the team on his back if they have some talent deficiencies in certain position groups in certain areas. They can't operate like that, especially in the secondary and the type of scheme that they want to play. Because like I said, buffalo, Kansas City, Cincinnati. These teams in the AFC that they're going to have to get through in the playoffs..
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Three Patriots selected to the Pro Bowl
"The Patriots were selected to the Pro Bowl stuff on Gilmore, Matthew Slater and Jake Bailey. Not on that list. Cornerback JC Jackson, who is second in the NFL with eight interceptions. Just one behind the league leader. Jackson not being voted in has some other players around the league, voicing their frustration on Twitter like Philadelphia Eagles corner, Darius Slay, who was a three time pro bowler himself. He made Jacoby Meyers tweeting in part eight picks and didn't make the Pro Bowl. Wow. Bill Belichick, meanwhile, says that Jackson is a very talented player that keeps on getting better, very double locate the ball when he turns around, and I'm gonna fax the ball and turns around confined in located. He's got very, very good skills in that area that he's done A good job of, you know, improving, you know, every year on I think he's still got a lot of good football problem and the
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Patriots at Dolphins: Alain Poupart breaks down Miami's running game
"The Houston was really the only team I would say that actually through on the Patriots effectively this year and DeShaun Watson besides Russell Wilson all the way back in week two thousand. I am curious, you know, the Dolphins do they have a running game. Do you think that they can do that with because I don't see it, but I don't want to I don't want to be biased over here. Either way. I mean, there are 30 second in the league in rushing yards per attempt. They were missing their top three rushing leaders last Sunday against the Chiefs. What's a be perfectly blunt? None of them are impact players Matt breida came off the covid-19. Wednesday obviously he'll be back. When he hasn't made much of an impact after coming over from the 49ers in the in the trade Myles Gaskin is on the Cove in list and he's a nice story as a second-year seventh-round pick who laughs basically got a cup of coffee in terms of playing time this year and he basically became their feature back and he's got some ability. But in a in an Ideal World Cup gasket is your backup is now your future back in this is what the Dolphins are dealing with our offensive line. Also a good story much better than was last year. They're starting three rookies with Austin Jackson am handsome in kinloch. but when you start three rookies pretty much ninety-nine percent of the time you're going to go through some growing pains and their offensive line while again exponentially better than what last year is still not great. Let's say it's worked in like but they're not a whole lot of big old being open in the running game and you don't have running backs off will make a lot of things happen on their own. So there's a reason again there there are thirty-second in the NFL in rushing yards per attempt and complicating matters. This week is they have injury issue is that wide receiver position where they also have a lot of players but not a whole lot of impact players. So you mentioned might get sick you earlier I believe and now he's got a shoulder injury where we can't get any Clarity from Ryan Flores as to his status for this week. It's all we'll see is working on all that. But if you saw the injury really really hard to Envision him playing cards Devante Port Parker pulled a hamstring or had a hamstring injury against the Chiefs you came out in the first app did not return. He practiced on a limited basis Wednesday, so hopefully play it but then if he plays this carrying a hamstring injury. And then so who else do you have left after that now you're looking at your team Grant who is more of a return specialist and and then their shuttle pass receiver gadget Play type of player on offense. He's also got a hamstring injury that knocked him out of Chiefs game. And then the rest of the wide receiver Corps is rookie limbo Junior who played multiple positions at Kentucky. You have a Mack Hollins who want to sign as a special-teams standout, which he is. He's very going to special teams but more so than the receiver and then you have one of the guys being talked up being able to make a major contribution as Isaiah Ford who you may remember from his three weeks with the Patriots after the acquired immune to trade in his office. I knew he was he didn't play it down for the Patriots. I knew how long is not going to last year when he got up here and he said it is freezing. I need a winter coat, you know, what am I going to do? And I just said look, I'm sure he's a fine football player. I'm sure he could make an impact on the team that needs wide receiver help but this guy does not seem like he wants to be in New England right now. Well, no, but he plays at Virginia Tech. So I'm so he's not like dead. He's from Jacksonville plant in Virginia tag, so it's not like he's not he's never been the call before and the thing about Isaiah Ford and then it was often friends are thinking. Well, Isaiah Ford is going to come and rescue the the passing game and that like life. He's a really really really nice good. And he might be in the league for ten years because he's got a great attitude. He works hard doesn't see anything. He's not an impact player. And right now this is what they have their wide receiver Corps. If she doesn't play they have nobody who's going to really scare the Patriots defense and if you you throughout the city also doesn't play. I mean who makes things happen on this office on Sunday? So that that's a big