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A highlight from Part 1: USAs World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism, Life in The G-League and The OC 20 Years Later | with Gabe York and Zoe Simmons
"Coming up, an unexpected two -part podcast cameo from me. It's next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where we turned over Sean Fennesey and Amanda Dobbins' big picture feed to Brian Raftery. It's a narrative podcast called, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. You can find it on the big picture starting on Tuesday. And it is an idea I'm really excited about because it came from a class that I did as a senior in college in 1992. Me and my friend Horgs talked a movies professor into doing a special Vietnam War movies class where we watched basically every Vietnam War movie that had been made up to 1992 and then tried to write a big picture term paper about it. And the thing that was really fascinating about that class and something that stuck with me was just that whole concept of Hollywood reinventing the entire Vietnam experience under the premise of, Did We Get to Win This Time? So we got Brian involved and he turned the idea into an awesome, awesome podcast. I even went and dug up the term paper that I wrote 31 years ago. I thought it was gonna be horrendous. It wasn't bad. I was kind of proud of myself, retroactively 31 years later. Anyway, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. It is gonna be in the big picture podcast starting on Tuesday. So that's one piece of business. Second, new rewatchables on Monday night. It is the 300th movie that we've done. It's a special one. We're doing National Lampoon's Vacation. It was time. Meet Chris Ryan, Van Lathan. Yeah, and Van was pushing for it because we wanted to do Christmas Vacation during the holidays and you can't do Christmas Vacation. If we do National Lampoon's Vacation, super fun. Can't wait for you to listen to it. And we'll be running the video at some point on the YouTube channel, youtube .com slash Bill Simmons, where we put up a whole bunch of rewatchables podcasts in case you missed it. Boogie Nights is up there now. Goodfellas, Independence Day, just a slew of them. So if you're bored and you wanna throw on some rewatchables and watch us make fun of each other, there you go. Last but not least, I don't wanna say this is the most important, but it's certainly the thing I spent the most time on. Our documentary that we did about the G League with Religion of Sports and Ringer Films, we combined, and it is premiering on Tuesday, August 8th. It is called Destination NBA, A G League Odyssey. It's really good. We immersed ourselves into the G League season. We followed Scoot Henderson, Gabe York, Ryan Terrell, Mason Jones, and Denzel Valentine. And the big question was, what is this world like? What's it like to be in the G League? And I am really proud of where we landed with it. And we even have, much later in this podcast, Gabe York is gonna come on. He's one of the five that we followed, and he's gonna tell us what it's like as you're holding on to your dream in your late 20s. We try not to spoil the doc too much with Gabe, but I really liked him. He's probably the guy that jumps out of the doc in the most sympathetic way. So look forward for you to watch it. It is prime video, Tuesday, August 8th, Destination NBA. A G League Odyssey. You love basketball, just watch it, it's good. So there you go. This is gonna be part one of a two -part podcast. Gabe is coming up later. My daughter Zoe Simmons is coming up later because we did a whole bunch of OC stuff on the Prestige TV podcast. I was even on two of the episodes. But I ended up watching season one of the OC. And my daughter was watching with us and loved the show. And she was born a year and a half after it premiered. So me and her broke down season one from the perspective of what is it like when somebody 18 watches the OC, a show that is now two decades old. The anniversary was actually August 6th. And what she liked, what she didn't like, what people aren't doing anymore for her kind of audience. And we just dove into it. So that is much later. First, coming out of the gate, I'm gonna open a six -pack because we have a lot to discuss over the past three weeks, all the stuff I missed. So that's gonna be part one. And then part two, which is gonna go up later on Sunday night, me and Rossello doing this evergreen idea that we've always wanted to do. And this seemed like the perfect time because nothing's happening in basketball. So that's gonna be part two later tonight. Part one coming up. First, our friends from ProJax. What's up? All right, I'm taping this. It is Sunday afternoon Pacific time. And I'm gonna open a six -pack. There's a bunch of stories in sports and culture that happened over the last three weeks. I was just writing stuff down, things that would have been fun for podcast segments. I was just like, man, I wish I could have given my thoughts on that. Just gonna rip through them. So I have six and then maybe a couple bonus ones at the end. The first one, the biggest one, was the US women's soccer team, which lost today in penalty kicks to Sweden, scored zero goals in the last two games, scored one goal in the last three games, and that was off a corner kick. You could feel from the beginning that something was off with this team. It was all the ways. You knew in a checklist of what are the red flags? There were just red flags galore. And the only person who was really calling it out in time over and over again was Carli Lloyd, who was doing the Fox studio show. And she was the one person in the horror movie who knows the house is haunted. And everyone's like, shut up. You're not being patriotic. You just wish you were still on the team. She was right. She was right from the get -go. This team, you could see it before the Vietnam game when it was like, look at the new Nike suits. Look at these new suits. And they're all like styling as they head into the locker room. And they're running commercials. And every player has a commercial. There's players who've never done anything of that commercials. And the vibe was just off. They only beat Vietnam three -nothing in a bracket where goal differential was gonna be super -duper important. And that was a huge red flag. And we did the usual thing that we've been doing since 2019, 2015 of, oh, well, they almost scored a bunch of times. Oh, well, if that had gone in or some bad luck. There was just an arrogance to this team. Like they were carrying themselves like the defending champs, the same way like the Denver Nuggets would go into next NBA season. Like we're the champs. I was like, yeah, you are the champs because the season just happened. The World Cup happened four years ago. Everyone's four years older or wasn't on the team. And you could see they wanted to build the team instead of around the identity of, here are these new up and coming awesome stars that are gonna be in your life. They were really latching on to Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe. Alex Morgan's 34, Megan Rapinoe's 37. I think one of the differences between the discourse with women's sports and men's sports is that in men's sports, we grasp for angles. And if somebody is disappointing in some way, we really go nuts. Like think of how James Harden's been treated over the last 12 years. So he's one of the 35 best players ever and has taken just an incredible amount of shit. Oh my God, the playoffs, look at his game log. Oh, he choked again. Alex Morgan, who scored twice in her first two games in the World Cup in 2011, she scored once in 2015 in seven games. She scored six times in 2019, five against Thailand in a game that was 13 to nothing, one in the other six, and then scored nothing in the four games this time around. If you take away that Thailand game, she has scored two goals in the last 17 World Cup games. This is the striker. This is the one who's supposed to be the most dangerous player in the field, who's supposed to produce goals. And she hasn't produced goals since the mid 2010s on the national level. And yet it's Alex Morgan. She was supposed to be the next one. We got to keep propping her up and pretending she's a superstar. She's not a superstar. She's really honestly never been a superstar. She certainly hasn't been as impactful as somebody like Abby Wambach was. So you have the team built around her. She's got to play. They play her the entire game, game two, the entire game, game three. She plays like 95 minutes in this game today, and they don't score goals. And the announcers just won't talk about it. It's like being on an AYSO team that your kid's on, and the coach is playing somebody at striker, and everyone's like, why don't they play Sally at striker instead of the coach's daughter? It's like, oh, you know, the coach's daughter. She's got to play there. So you have that, and then you have Rapinoe, who's 37 years old, who's just, unfortunately, great career, legendary, true legend, huge big time player. And when you hit your late 30s in soccer, it's a wrap. She looked like Yudana Rapinoe, not big Rapinoe, and comes out for the last 25 minutes of this game and can't do anything, and then misses the penalty kick. That's the thing. If you're beholden to past performance, you can't expect to succeed in the moment. And I did feel like, what were this team's strengths? Speed. They had Sophia Smith, who really was bad the last three games on the left wing. Like, she just, she couldn't even connect passes. Trinity Rodman, who's a beast. Lynn Williams, who's super fast and athletic and had some really nice moments the last two games. And then Alyssa Thompson, who's the prodigy, who's the, you know, potential tiger or LeBron of this team. 18 years old, best high school player I've ever had. They won't even throw her out there. But this was not a team that could connect passes. They weren't, like, especially creative. The coaching was just bizarre, and we'll never see that guy again. But it was like, the one thing they did have was speed, especially the forwards, and they just threw that away. And Alex, you know, couldn't do anything. So now they're out. It's the most disappointing finish of the last 25 years for the women's team. And it reminds me in a lot of ways that 2004 Olympic basketball team that we had, the USA team. And I tweeted this, I think after the second game, because that was a team that was between eras, like this one was, where all the best players on that 2014, the ones in their primes, weren't that good, except for Duncan. And Duncan was completely banged up. He'd played so many NBA games the last couple of years. I think his knee was hurt. But, you know, it was Iverson and Marbury. The talent, it just was a between eras. And you had guys on the bench, like LeBron and Carmelo and Wade, who were four years away. Kobe wasn't on the team. And it just felt generationally, like we caught that team in the wrong time. The style was wrong. And we learned all these lessons and we moved on. 2008, we win. There's a documentary about it. But this team felt like it was between eras. The Alex Morgan, Rapinoe era, which was basically done. And then you have this era coming up with Rodman and Sophia Smith and Alyssa. And, you know, it's just four years from now, we'll probably be fine. But they need to re -imagine this. And I think if you're gonna learn any lesson from this, it doesn't matter what happened four years ago. It's the World Cup. It matters what's happening now. So that's one thing. Second thing. So Jaylen Brown gets this huge contract, $304 million. Some people seem surprised that it was that much money. Chris Ryan even took a shot at it when we did our library watchables. Hurt my feelings a tiny bit. Mainly because I didn't really have a comeback. Rosella did something on his podcast about how this actually makes sense. This amount of money, when you think of how the salary cap has climbed just since 2015, and it's gonna keep climbing. And there's this world you can go into where you think about just how much everything is gonna cost in the NBA four or five years from now, that Jaylen Brown at $70 million isn't actually gonna be that intimidating. The same way we feel about Tobias Harris for $40 million now, or Klay Thompson, $40 million now. Yeah, you don't really wanna pay $40 million for Klay Thompson, but you can survive it. And I think that's gonna be where the Celtics land with Jaylen. Here's why they had to do it. They're the favorites on FanDuel right now. They're plus 470. The thing that made them the most special and has made them the most special for the last five, six years is the Jaylen Brown -Jason Tatum combo. They've been incredibly successful. The team itself has made five conference finals in the last seven years. They came super close to making the finals last year. I have now gone into the what if zone with that Celtics team where what if Tatum doesn't hurt his ankle on the first play? Do we beat Miami? They were close is the point. And when you're that close, you can't fuck around. This is not Bradley Beal resigning with Washington for 50 million a year when everybody knows you can't get past the eight seed with Bradley Beal. This is different. You're trying to win a title. You're trying to keep all your optionality open. The thing that's a little scary about it, nobody seems to totally know if he wants to be in Boston. This is something we've discussed on this pod. It's been floating out there. The fact that he wasn't happy about landing in the Kevin Durant trade rumors a couple years ago. And just in general, where the league is now, where as Woj called it, the transfer portal, where people get their contract first and then they decide what they want to do. And I think for the Celtics, they know they bought themselves a year with Jalen and they are still one of the favorites to win the title. And a lot of it's going to depend on health and Porzingis. You could also, I don't want to make the case, but you might be able to make the case that Brown had a fucked up hand last year. Cause he did. Cause he sliced his hand open. It was bleeding even during the Philly series. And maybe that was why his ball handling went sideways. Listen, you got to do the contract. It just breaks your brain. I remember a million years ago, Sports Illustrated and Inside Sports say every year they would have like a salary issue. And they would talk about these guys are making $1 million a year. And it seemed like so much money. And now where we're heading with the money, plus the NBA is the meteorites deal. The moment any of these guys becomes unhappy, what do you do? Because you're paying Jalen, let's say you're paying him 55 million a year. Plus he is the trade kicker, which the team has to pay. Right? So if he decides after a year, you know what? I'm tired of being the scapegoat. Everybody loves Jason. I'm like the middle brother of this team. I want my own team. I want to go to Houston or Atlanta. You got to trade me. What are the Celtics going to do? On top of who would want out, you don't have a lot of options and you turn into what the situation Portland's in with Deem. And then on top of it, it's so much money. It's impossible to get any sort of a fair trade for the guy. So they had to do it. And optionality the that comes out of it is frightening. I remember in the early 2000s, when the first time the contracts kind of went nuts and you would see that people get signing like six -year, $100 million deals, seven -year, $110 million deals. And the Celtics really, really stupidly traded for Vin Baker. One of the worst trades of the last 30 years for Boston Sports. A trade so bad, you knew it instantaneously. And I wrote a piece that you can probably find somewhere in the ESPN archives about it, where I compared it to the end of Thelma Louise when Harvey Keitel is running toward the cliff trying to stop the car from going off the cliff. That's how I thought about the Vin Baker trade when it happened. Then it happens and you just had this salary albatross. It's a salary cap league. And you're like, wow, we just threw away 20 % of our salary cap on this trade. There's going to be a couple of those that are just franchise killers. And whether that leads to them bringing back the amnesty clause, who knows? I wish, I've made this, I've had this idea before. I wish that they had a rule in there that if you drafted a guy, every year that he stays in the team, you get rewarded in some way from a salary cap luxury tax type thing, right? So Jaylen was 2016 draft, this would be his eighth year. Maybe like after the seventh year, because that's usually like the third contract. The guy stays in the team, maybe each year after that, he doesn't count for 2 % of the luxury tax, up to like 30%, something like that. The point is the Warriors should be rewarded for keeping Draymond and Klay and Curry from a tax standpoint, that they were that smart to draft those guys, keep those guys together. They should be incentivized, the players, to want to stay with them because there's some luxury tax stuff that the team gets. And the team should want to be incentivized to take care of those guys because it's also beneficial to them. I just wish they figured out some version of that rule. Anyway, Jaylen was always signing for $304 million. Talk to me in a year, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Next thing, I missed the running back pity party. This was crazy. The running backs all got together and they were really upset about how much money they made. And I don't know what to tell you. There's too many running backs and not enough running back spots. And I don't know if you're trying to build a responsible salary cap team in a collectively bargained era, why would you spend $30 million over two years on a running back unless the running back was awesome? Nobody even wants to spend more than $11 million on running back. So I knew that this was crazy when Damien Harris, who was on the Patriots, who I thought was really good. He's maybe not an elite running back, but a good running back, right? Somebody that if he had been on the Chiefs, he easily could have started for the Chiefs. And he signed with the Bills for like one year, 2 million. And when that happened, combined with Pacheco on the Chiefs' seventh round pick, they won the Super Bowl with him. It's just, this position's devalued. I work on this player, I've been actually working on it the last couple of weeks where I try to rank the players for blue chippers, red chippers, pink chippers, honorable mention, and have this whole point system. And so quarterbacks, Mahomes, who's the alpha of that position, he's worth 10 points. And you could even see this in the point spread. If Mahomes gets hurt, the Chiefs are 10 points, nine points, whatever, less than what they would be as a favorite. They'd switch to an underdog. And you go on down the line. Jalen Hurts, I had him as an eight. I had Joe Burrow as a nine. And you go on, you keep going down, and it's like, Geno Smith's probably a two. But then you look at some of the other positions and you have to value them the same way the salary cap values them and teams value them. Guards, they aren't worth that much. Running backs, sorry, they're not worth that much. My top running back was three points because ultimately running backs don't really matter that much. In the last like five, six years, I would say Derrick Henry was the only running back that you could definitively say, this guy almost won the Super Bowl. Like he was that good. Other than that, you know, it's plug and play, quarterbacks, it's receivers. It's much harder to find the number one receiver. Every team needs one. It's much more tangible if you don't have the number one receiver. And it's much easier to just kind of scrap together the running back position. And yet people went nuts about this. We ironically had this in the NBA with centers. You know, Vucevic, who's a really good offensive player, he signed for 60 million for three years, 20 million a year. And Jaylen Brown's going to make $52 million a year. Is Jaylen Brown two and a half times better than Vucevic? No, it's just, he plays a way more important position. You can only play one center at a time. You can patch together the center position. You could have like Isaiah Hartenstein for $8 million. You could, you know, get Robert Williams for 16. You don't need to spend what Phoenix did on Eaton where they're paying $8 and $30 million a year at center. And you don't really need to do that. You kind of feel obligated if you don't want to lose the asset. But I think the NBA is going to go this way eventually where unless it is Jokic or Embiid, the center or Bam Adebayo, it's a bonus. You could argue that was already an overpay. They gave him a huge extension. The Lakers just gave Anthony Davis $60 million a year as an extension. I would argue that's a little frightening. I feel like you could patch together the center position. What really matters in basketball is having the creator. And this was the argument five years ago with Luka versus Eaton for the number one pick. And I made this argument. It was like, go look at who wins the NBA title every year. It's always the people who have the creator. There's somebody who's on the perimeter of the ball in their hands. Even Jokic, who wins the title this year, he was a creator. He's not a typical center, right? He's basically their point guard on offense who could post up. So this happened in the NBA. Nobody went nuts. And this is happening in football. And is this where football is. If you want to make the most amount of money playing in the NFL, I don't know why you would be a running back. I would be a cornerback. I would be a wide receiver. I'd be an edge rusher. But if you're a running back, you know your shelf life's probably like five, six years. You know the money is not totally gonna be there. Now they're in this, like you have people like JK Dobbins, like, I might hold out. It's like, really? You didn't barely even play in the field. Barkley said he was gonna hold out. And then, you know, probably looked at it. And the money for Barkley is like 10, 11 million. That's unfortunately the market. So you can't fix this. They collectively bargained it. And until we get to the next CBA, I don't know how you fix it. I thought it was really weird. It felt like people had nothing to talk about. And it was like, ah, let's feel bad for running backs. All right, let's take a break. And then I'm gonna finish the rest of the six pack. All right, picking up on the six pack. We're gonna talk a little more football. I talked about the running back pity party. This is a different kind of party. The Jets optimism, which has just been stunning to me over the course of July. I have Jets fans in my life. These are people that usually have no hope and are very reminiscent of the pre -2004 Red Sox fans, just assuming the worst at all times. Why does God hate us? All that stuff. And now they have this crazy optimism based on the fact that they brought in Aaron Rodgers, who I did not think was very good last year, just throwing that out there. I wouldn't say he was bad, but for Rodgers, he was bad. I mean, we thought Rodgers was, he was the reigning MVP and we thought he was still one of the five or six most impactful players in the league. And I don't wanna read stats to you for the next six minutes, but deep balls, he was bad. Turnovers, he was bad. Leadership, he was bad. And the case for Rodgers coming back would be, well, he's gonna be rejuvenated. The Jets, New York City. This is his team. He got away from Green Bay. He's got Hackett back. I get it, but he's also at an age where we've really only seen Tom Brady succeed at a high, high level at the age that Rodgers is at. I was trying to figure it out. I have my QB ratings and I had, you know, the top tier is Mahomes and Burrow and Allen and Herbert and Hertz. Those have to be the top five. Then it drops off and it's Lamar Jackson and Lawrence. And then Rodgers, probably a hair underneath him with a chance to play himself up with those guys. But from what we saw last year, I'm not ready to put him there. So he's the 10th best quarterback in the league, probably. 10th or ninth best quarterback in the league, probably. Well, they have no offensive line. And I don't understand why people keep glossing over this where it's like, hey, Rodgers and Garrett Wilson, he's one of the best receivers in the league and Breece Hall's going to come back and the defense is really good. And it's like, yeah, the offensive line is terrible. Beckton and Dwayne Brown, sure tackles again. And then you have Robert Salah as the coach, who I cannot say I thought that Jets were crisply coached last year. Whatever he was doing with Zach Wilson was insane. No idea if that guy's even a decent coach. So I'm already worried about your offensive line, the age of your quarterback, and the competency of your coach. And that's before we get into the hard knocks curse, because for some reason they're doing hard knocks, the incredible Super Bowl hype already. And then we have the schedule, which is the AFC East has just got screwed by the schedules this year. The Jets, just for quarterbacks in 17 games, they got to play Josh Allen twice, they got to play Mahomes, Herbert, Hertz, Dak Prescott, and Deshaun Watson. And then they also have to play Miami twice. We'll see what we get out of two this year. And then a really good Pats defense. And then Denver, who knows, they might be rejuvenated. So Danny Dimes, they have to play him. It is a brutal schedule, so you have that. And then on top of everything else, you're the Jets. I was there with the Red Sox before 2004, and this is probably just as bad, where you just think the worst possible things can happen is all the time. You're not allowed to have optimism when you're Jets fans. You can be cautiously optimistic. There was an entire Curb Your Enthusiasm episode once, season 10, episode seven, about being a Jets fan. And it was called, I think, the ugly section. Nick Kroll was the maitre d'. And part of the episode was about, he would put these people in different sections of the restaurant, depending on how attractive they were. But there was this other plot, Larry's buddy who loved the Jets, kills himself. And Larry becomes convinced it was because of the Jets, that the Jets killed his friend. This was only a couple of years ago. So now they get Aaron Rodgers, and everything's good. And they're gonna win the Super Bowl. I don't see it, guys. I don't wanna step on my football stuff too much, but I'd be shocked. And Lombardi points out the defense that everybody's ready to compare to the 85 Bears. Lombardi said they had two turnovers over the last eight games last season. So that means something too. I am dubious, to say the least. If you're gonna tell me a tortured franchise actually turns it around this year, I want a tortured franchise that doesn't have expectations. Because the Lions are another one. Everybody's ready to put them in the Super Bowl or close. And the only case for them is just pretty explosive offense. They couldn't stop anybody last year. And the NFC is terrible. But that's another one where is that a fan base that should be super excited and have a ton of hype? The one that's kind of lurking that fits in this group is the Browns. Because the Browns are actually super talented. They're in a winnable division. Burroughs already hurt. And I think they're four to one to win the AFC North on FanDuel, something like that. Their over -under is, I think it climbed up.
Fresh update on "jaylen" discussed on WTOP 24 Hour News
"They weren't this nfc east matchup living up to the rivalry our george wallace is in philadelphia and joins that is actually my fault guys sorry about that and joins us live george right and heading towards the end of the third quarter here in philadelphia now leader twenty one seventeen washington outscored eleven nothing in this quarter a .j. brown a big fifty nine yard touchdown pass from jaylen her to his eighteen twenty five of the day for two hundred forty one yards dangerous with all of the philadelphia sam house sixteen to twenty two for washington and this courtesy of it with a one yard tv run and then terry mclaurin jumped on a fumble in the end zone for the other touchdown for washington but they've got to come cold here in the second twenty one seventeen philadelphia leads and we'll head to the fourth totally different game in the second half you are right w two p sports director director and commanders beat reporter george wallace forest ravens are dominating the browns twenty one three dashaun watson did not start cleveland for because of a right shoulder injury for baltimore lamar jackson has rushed for two touchdowns he threw for another to mark andrews andrews elsewhere in the league the panthers are down to the vikings twenty one thirteen ram's twenty three eight over the colts bucks seventeen six over the saints broncos are down to the bears twenty eight twenty one and texans are leading the steelers sixteen six that's just some of the games and in a major league baseball the nationals are in atlanta playing the braves no score yet uh... that's a lie the the nationals are beating the braves four nothing right now this is the top of the first and red socks are in baltimore with the royals there is no score in that game yet dianne roberts wtop sports coming up after traffic and weather in late a night vote on capitol hill lawmakers dodged a government shutdown for now three twenty six the is it morning yet deal how about now or now because morning time is mcdonald's breakfast time and that's the best time of all the times get
Caleb Martin helps Heat to 103-84 Game 7 win over Celtics and spot in NBA Finals
"The Miami Heat denied history and made some of their own winning game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals one O three 84 over the Boston Celtics to punch their ticket back to the NBA Finals. Jimmy Butler scored a game high 28 points to help Miami become just the second number 8 seed to reach the NBA Finals. The heat won three straight before dropping three straight in the series NBA teams are 151 and O all time when leading three zero in a playoff series. Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum had 19 and 14 points respectively for the Celtics. Get them cool ball, Boston.
Fresh update on "jaylen" discussed on WTOP 24 Hour News
"Forward all right let's bring bring in Diane Roberts you didn't get a lot of commanders toys actually no I had a few okay not commanders but yeah okay the commanders are on the road against the undefeated Eagles this afternoon QB Jaylen Hertz is 20 and 1 in his last 21 starts now that one loss came against Washington in week 10 last year Sam Howell and Washington's o -line will have their work cut out for them with the Eagles defensive front they need to clean up things from a 4 int 9 sack performance against Buffalo last week the Ravens are on the road as well they're in Cleveland where the Browns won't have Deshaun Watson in the game he's nursing a shoulder injury this morning from London the Jaguars beat the Falcons 23 -7 the Bills DeMar Hamlin is scheduled to make his first start of the regular season for the first time since suffering cardiac arrest on the field nine months ago Raiders QB Jimmy Garoppolo is out versus the Chargers he's still in the concussion protocol the Raiders look to to rookie Aiden O 'Connell in the other football DC United played to a 2 -all tie against Denver last night and on the women's side the Washington Spirit beat the KC Current 2 -1 off a Trinity Rodman goal in stoppage time it's the first outright win since June for the team which had four losses and three ties in its last seven league games. Don Roberts WTOP sports. All right still to come here on WTOP we're this hour we heard from President Biden on the stopgap measure and the battling we've been seeing over the budget the last -minute deal of course happening so we don't have a government shutdown to tell you about right now but the latest on what the president had to say coming up? the is it morning yet deal how about now or now because morning time is McDonald's breakfast time and that's the best time of all the times. Get any sized iced coffee for
AP News Summary at 10:47 a.m. EDT
"AP sports, I'm get cool bought Derrick white scored on a putback with one tenth of a second left and the Boston Celtics moved to the brink of the greatest comeback in NBA playoffs history, holding off the Miami Heat one O four one O three Saturday night to force a game 7 in the Eastern Conference Finals. Jayson Tatum had 31 points and jaylen Brown 26 for the Celtics who became only the fourth NBA team to erase a three O deficit in a best of 7 series and force a deciding game 7 played Monday in Boston. In other NBA news, the bucks are finalizing a deal to make Adrian Griffin their head coach after spending the last 5 seasons as a raptors assistant. Stanley Cup playoffs tied to scored twice in a span of one minute, 27 seconds, midway through the third period and the Dallas stars beat the Vegas golden knights four to two to stay alive in the Western Conference final Dallas host game 6 Monday down three two and engulf PGA Tour rookie Harry hall from England and Adam shank shared the 54 hole lead at colonial. Gethin kuba AP sports.
Celtics thrive on 3s, beat Heat 110-97 in Game 5 to extend East finals
"Derrick white had 24 points, including 6 three pointers and the Boston Celtics dominated Miami Heat won ten 97 on Thursday night in game 5 to extend the Eastern Conference Finals. You can go top to bottom of someone that hit a big shot at a crucial time. And they're a good team. They're always going to come back and attack us. So we can never be satisfied. Jason Tatum and jaylen Brown finished with 21 points apiece as the Celtics claim their second straight win and trim Miami series lead to three two. Duncan Robinson scored 18 points for Miami which host game 6 Saturday. Geffen kuba, Boston
Tatum scores 33, Celtics stave off elimination by topping Heat 116-99 in Game 4
"The Boston Celtics kept their season alive with a statement one 1699 game four win against the heat in Miami. Jayson Tatum scored 25 of his game high 33 points in the second half and had 11 rebounds and 7 assists to help the Celtics avoid a sweep forcing a game 5 Thursday in Boston. We didn't play well those first three games. We didn't deserve to win. But you know, we didn't want that to define us, define the season. Jaylen Brown added 17 points, Derek white had 16 and grant Williams 14. Jimmy Butler led the heat with 29 points and Gabe Vincent scored 17. I'm geffen cool bomb.
The latest in sports
"AP sports I'm David Shuster, one game in both the NBA and NHL playoffs Sunday and they were completely different from a competitive standpoint. We start in the NBA with geth and kuba filling us in on Miami and Boston. The Miami Heat cruise to a three O series lead in the Eastern Conference Finals after blowing out the Boston Celtics one 28 one O two at home in game three. Gabe Vincent pace the heat with a playoff career high 29 points on 11 of 14 shooting. Caleb Martin added 18 points, Jimmy Butler scored 16 and bam adebayo 13. Boston stars Jayson Tatum and jaylen Brown were held to 14 and 12 points respectively on a combined 12 of 35 shooting. Miami can clinch its second NBA Finals birth in four seasons with a win in game four Tuesday. And now over to hockey with Mark Myers reporting on Las Vegas and Dallas. Chandler Stephenson scored early in overtime to give the golden knights a three to two win over the stars and a two O series lead the knights were able to tie the score in the final minute of regulation on a goal by Jonathan Marshall, Aiden hill made 26 saves in the Vegas nets, Jake Avengers stopped 21 shots for the stars who were now zero in four and overtime games this postseason. Turning to baseball, Houston completed a three game sweep of Oakland Sunday's final two zero and how bad are the a's well they're on pace to lose 138 games which would be a record. Other highlights Sunday Oscar Mercado with 5 RBI St. Louis ten 5 over the Dodgers and Cedric mullin 5 hits Baltimore 8 three over Toronto. To golf and Brooks Koepka won his 5th major title, he won the PGA Championship by two shots. That was good. Yeah, this one's this one's definitely special. I think this one's probably the most meaningful of them all with everything that's gone on, all the other crazy stuff over the last few years, but it feels good to be back and get number 5. And in auto racing, Spain's Alex pillow captured the pole position for this year's Indy 500. I'm David Shuster, a P sports.
Heat roll past Celtics 128-102, take 3-0 lead in Eastern Conference finals
"The Miami Heat cruise to a three O series lead in the Eastern Conference Finals after blowing out the Boston Celtics one 28 one O two at home in game three. Gabe Vincent paced the heat with a playoff career high 29 points on 11 of 14 shooting. My teammates tell me time and time again to come off the picker and be aggressive and then make reads from there. So when they're giving me that confidence and I see a couple go in, you know, I'll definitely continue to be aggressive. Boston stars Jayson Tatum and jaylen Brown were held to 14 and 12 points respectively. Miami can clinch its second NBA Finals birth in four seasons with a win in game four Tuesday. I'm geffen coolbaugh.
Butler scores 35, Heat rally to beat Celtics 123-116 in East finals opener
"That he took in one of the Eastern Conference Finals by dominating the third quarter of the one 23 one 16 win over the Celtics in Boston. The self led by 9 and a half time, but Miami outscored them 46 25 in the third to take control. Jimmy Butler provided 23 of his game high 35 points in the second half and finished with 7 assists 6 steals and 5 rebounds. Bam adebayo had 20 points and 8 rebounds for the heat who were 16 of 31 from three point range. Jason Tatum scored 30 points and jaylen Brown added 22 for the Celtics who host came to on Friday. I'm Dave ferry.
Brown scores 25, Celtics spoil Embiid's return in 121-87 win
"The Celtics nod their second round series at a game of peace by smothering the 76ers one 21 87. Jaylen Brown scored 25 points while leading a team that played with much more intensity than in the opener. I think we just got to take more pride in ourselves, you know? And that's it, you know? We just feel like, you know, we underperform last game and we wanted to come out and play to the best of our ability. And that's what we did. No one, I'm a 76ers approach 20 points. Malcolm Brogdon provided 6 of Boston's 23 pointers and finished with 23 points, helping the Celtics win despite just 7 points from Jayson Tatum, game three is Friday in Philadelphia. I'm Dave ferry.
Harden scores 45, hits late 3 as 76ers down Celtics 119-115
"With sixers star center Joel embiid sidelined with a right knee sprain, harden matched his playoff career high with 45 points. Tyrese Maxie added 26 points for Philadelphia, which improved to 5 zero in the playoffs after a first round sweep of Brooklyn. Celtic star Jayson Tatum scored 26 of his team high 39 points in the first half and jaylen Brown added 23.
Celtics pull away, beat Hawks 128-120 for 4-2 series win
"The Celtics finally advanced to the second round by rallying past the hawks one 28 one 20. Boston trail before an 11 O run that included three straight three pointers. Jason Tatum hit one of the trays and capped the spurt with a dunk to put Boston ahead one 21 one 13 with two O 7 remaining. Just understand it was time. It was a back and forth game. They was hitting big shots. We was hitting big shots. And we could feel it. Everybody was locked in. Jaylen Brown led the Celtics with 32 points, while Tatum added 30. Al Horford provided ten points, grabbed 12 boards and hit a three pointer that put Boston ahead to stay. I'm Dave ferry.
Young's long 3 lifts Hawks to 119-117 win over Celtics
"Trae Young scored 38 points and buried a 29 foot game winning three pointer with 2.8 seconds left as the Atlanta Hawks staved off elimination with a shocking one 19 one 17 game 5 went over the Celtics. At that point I looked up and it was only like three, four seconds left, maybe two. So I just had to trust in what I've done my whole life and just shoot with confidence. Boston led by 13 with 8 33 remaining before Atlanta responded with a 28 13 push, jaylen Brown scored 35 while Jayson Tatum was held to 19 for the Celtics who still lead the series three games to two. Gethin kuba, Boston.
Brown, Tatum score 31 each, Boston beats Hawks for 3-1 lead
"Jayson Tatum and jaylen Brown each poured in 31 points as the Celtics extended their series lead to three one over the hawks with a one 29 one 21 victory. Brown started the game shooting one for 7. He took off the protective mask. He's worn since February and then knocked down 11 of 15. The rest of the way. I just needed something different. I don't know what it was. I needed to change my shoes. Wipe my hands off, you know, take the mask off, whatever I needed to do. I just needed to help my team get a win and that's what I was trying to do. Marcus smart added 19 points for the Celtics, while Trae Young led the hawks with 35. Jim Hart, Atlanta
Celtics beat Hawks 119-106 for 2-0 series lead
"Jayson Tatum and jaylen Brown set the tone with 29 and 18 points respectively, while Derek white provided a big boost scoring 26. The hawks claimed an early 11 point first quarter advantage before conceiving the lead for good on a quarter ending 17 three Celtic surge. Dijon Murray led the hawks with 29 points and Trae Young added 24
Brown scores 29, Celtics hold off late rally by Hawks 112-99
"Behind Celtics guard jaylen brown's game high 29 points, the Boston Celtics took game one over the Atlanta Hawks one 1299 in their best of 7 game series. Brown's teammate Jason team added 25 points, including 14 in the first quarter. The Celtics held the hawks to just 5 threes the entire game and matched their largest halftime lead in playoff history with a 30 point advantage after two quarters.
Jaylen Brown's 41 points helps Celtics past Spurs 137-93
"Jaylen Brown had a big performance in the Celtics one 37 93 crushing of the spurs. Brown poured in 41 points and grabbed 13 rebounds while Boston played with that Jayson Tatum, who was sidelined with the right hip contusion. And I've always taken pride in doing what I've been asked to do and whatever challenge that's been I always met that challenge with, you know, excitement and a willingness to be a part of a team. Malcolm Brogdon chipped in 20 points and 9 assists is the selz pulled within one and a half games of the bucks for the Eastern Conference lead. Derek white provided 19 points and 8 boards in the win. I'm Dave ferry.
Mitchell scores 40, Stevens rallies Cavs past Celtics in OT
"The Cavaliers overcome a 14 point fourth quarter deficit to defeat the Celtics one 18 one 14 in overtime in Cleveland, the Cavs were led by Donovan Mitchell, who nets 40 points while grabbing 11 rebounds. I'm just trying to find ways to make winning plays with defensively offensively. And however that is, you know, just kind of finding ways to win the game. It doesn't really matter how you go about it, just win the game at the end of the day. Jaylen Brown scored 32 points for the Celtics who have lost three straight Boston played the game without Jayson Tatum. I'm Mike Reeves
Tatum's late 3 lifts Celtics past Embiid, 76ers 110-107
"Jason Tatum and the three point basket with 2.2 seconds left in regulation to give the Celtics a one ten one O 7 win over the 76ers. Tatum's three point winner came up to Philadelphia had tied the contest at one O 7 on a pair of free throws by Joel embiid. Tatum has put a 7 for 17 shooting performance from the field, managed to score 18 to give Boston their third straight win. Perfect story, right? Tie game ten 5 seconds left. Haven't been shooting well. Come through for the guys when, you know, need you the most. Jaylen Brown had a team high 26, Joel embiid had a game by 41 in the loss for the sixers. Michael luongo, Philadelphia.
"jaylen" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"So yeah, it's interesting question and we'll find out if you can but yeah, but even I forget maybe it was when he first got the Golden State or maybe it was right before he's always been he's always said that it doesn't matter how good he is and stuff like that. He's just like a regular guy. Like he hangs out. He's going to respond. He's going to do this because he doesn't see himself, I guess, above all of it. He just feels like he's just a guy who plays basketball. Every single person in the world is a regular guy. Absolutely. Some people just do it. Great things. All right. Flambo one, two, three. Thank you so much, and we have anime. I don't know who that is. Does anybody famous that? Okay. What? No, what my point was is that if somebody's really good at something, it doesn't make them different than everybody else. As a person. That was my point. I'm with you in thinking highly of myself. Question. Would you take Jalen Brown over Chris Middleton as a number two disregarding age and health? You want to take Chris because shooting a fish is based on shooting efficiency, just based off he's a plus defender himself, you know? Yeah, and he's better off ball. He could dribble right now. Yeah, no. By the way, I've always felt like he's sort of a low key MVP of that team. So closing, last 5 minutes of the game, he's really good. Yeah. And it's hard to talk. I don't have any more Milwaukee Bucks fans left in the conversations. I always made this. I always said that I think Giannis will win a championship as a second option. I'm still not sure if I was right or not. I don't think you're right, just that game 6, he was Giannis was just amazing. That's true. He didn't have enough of an effect. I know that they were beaten up and what everybody had these good games and they wouldn't win them in the playoffs. And he needs to figure that out, but that's the problem. There's enough of a hole in his game, offensively, that when you talk about the top four or 5 defenses in the league, there's enough where they can handle it. So, but Middleton, I love Middleton and the I go with him over Brown. But you know, it's close. Oh, we have to block somebody. All right, let's block the crypto people. We have more superb. We have a buzzer beater. Where are you, buzzer beater? There it is. Thank you so much, buzzer beater, and then, oh, that's interesting. What is that? It's a thing that he's got on his thing. The squad, interesting. Jackson Wilkins Tucker Strickland and gosh, who's the other person and E that's an interesting error of the Knicks to have a retro picture of, right? So it's Mark Jackson, not Dominica, his brother. Yeah. Is it Trent Tucker we're talking about? I think so. And rod Strickland. And so then who would the enemy be? I can't figure that out. Anyway, if someone else tells us in the comments. Must be fun. Thank you so much for being so so generous. Coach, you missed my super chat a few weeks ago. So here it is. Oh no. What do you think about the NBA midseason tournament? I totally missed this. And so buzzer being that was a thing. All right, and because I missed your one last time, you have to email me and I will send you something. But how do you email me and how does that how do you prove it to
"jaylen" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"Kill. I guess the only argument is is that the warriors offense would just flow a lot better, right? Like that's kind of like the what do you mean? Like yeah, when you have like two ISO scorers like Jason Tatum and KD, sometimes offense doesn't flow as well as you would want it to. Like they have more top end talent, but the warriors have a nicer like play style and fit. And let's not forget what unlocked the Celtics was the ball movement, the driving and kicking all of a sudden started doing. I still have to figure that out. I should have asked Jared. Although I've asked him on the text that privately, what happened? What did they do? But you know, that was pretty stark. I did a video on that. And that, and that was also Tatum. Like trimming those down too. That goes away. I don't think when Katie went to the warriors, the first time he wanted the ball movement and we saw a lot of that the first year and then things. I don't think he's into that anymore. I don't think, you know, and I know he wants to get treated, but you're not going to hear him say I want to get traded to a team that moves the ball a whole lot. I don't think he's going to say that. That's true. KD always wants what he doesn't have. Okay. Well, what does he not have that he's not getting in Brooklyn? I don't know, but he'll find something. They don't want it. It is weird. Do we ever dissect that? Do we ever come down to the real? Is it Kyrie to request a trade? So he felt like he needed to request a trade or I think it would supposedly the nets didn't want to offer Kyrie a long-term contract. Obviously, because you can't really rely on him. So as an organization why would you offer a guy? There are reports saying that the nets don't even know why. Why? Yeah. I mean, who really knows, but at the end of the day, Katie probably feels like he can't win there. Maybe just be frustrated with those situations. Even though you can't be mad at a situation that you ask for everything and they gave you everything and that part I just don't really agree with how you asked for everything. They gave you everything you wanted and a new coach players, everything. They traded for your friend, Hardin, all that. And it's like, yeah, I'm good. I want to leave now. Organization, it's like maybe he started hanging around with Ben Simmons. Although, you know, maybe he's like, you know, this isn't going to work. But I did like to see clips of Ben Simmons playing on the court and running around and looking good. Or is that another? That may be an old one. I haven't seen any new clips of him. Yeah, I don't know. This is how bad it is for me. I can barely work. My brain is completely shut down. I guess it's the doldrums of the summer, but man, it's been hard. And I can't figure out what I'm watching or what I'm learning. Darrell asks another super chat. Thank you so much. Why are we asking if Boston would win at JB we're in place with Katie and not if Tatum were replaced, Tatum did not play well at all. If I'm Boston, I try to partner Kevin Durant and Jalen, which is sort of what we were saying. Yeah, but you kind of neglecting the reason why Tatum didn't play well.
"jaylen" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"Work to do on that, obviously. That's work to do of everything. But with another year and he gets the proper training and his knees, the valgus, he's got to fix that big time, or else he's going to have some injury issues as well. Yeah, I get it, but so I just want to, you know, it's a good one. Here's what's going on. Here's what they're excited. Here's what he has to work on. Hopefully everybody out there will watch it. But let's bring on Chris because we haven't talked to Chris in a long time and he's always worth the chat. What's up, man? How's it going? He's going on doing good. How you guys doing? He's featuring the 87 NBA Finals. You weren't alive during the 87 NBA Finals, man. I know. That was in high school watching that. Sonny, what's up? Talk to her, let's see. Since 1990, what year is it 2022? So it's been 32 years since they've been Saturday. So anyway, I remember being at that because 87 was the first of the back to back. I think for the Lakers, right? Right? Yeah. Lakers. And they were going to do the first three peat in 89. And magic and Byron got both got handy's and the pistons. Yeah. By the way, the Lakers, I think, they got the Lakers got swept in that one, but I really feel like they would have beaten them if they were healthy, but what are you going to do? Anyhow, cool hat. Where did you get that hat? Why are you wearing that hat? It's one of my favorites. I just got it, got it from Urban Outfitters. Urban out there is telling that right now in the store. Or online. Either one. Good for them. Good for them. All right. Well, what's your take on whatever we've been talking about this far? Will you guys hopped in when you guys were talking about should jaylen Brown be taking this personal? How about that? No, he shouldn't. I don't think he should. Well, maybe a little bit just because they got to the finals. But he's not being mentioned. He's not being traded for scrubs. He's getting traded. He's being mentioned with guys who are top, top 7 players in the world. Going back to when he was being shopped for possibly Kauai and Paul George and Jimmy Butler, those type of guys. These are like really good players. And they're all arguably better than him. So it's like how can you, you can feel some type of way, but like Kevin Durant is arguably one of the arguably the best player in the world. If I'm being traded for him, there's only the team is supposed to inquire about something like that. I mean, there is some notion of a young team that gets to the finals they should be the next year they come in and ready to win 65 games and they'll just hammer everybody and they have the car. And it's not a guarantee, right? The progression isn't always linear. Look at the sun's kind of thing, right? Yeah. No, fair enough. But you'd hope that that would be that your progression. And then you kind of interrupt it with the record scratch. And you're like, ah, why are you doing this to me? But, you know, it might be one of those motivating things. Jalen Brown is going to be like, I'm going to show all you guys how dare you consider trading me. I'm going to be better than Kevin Durant, whatever. So that might actually work out in this day and age that people wanted to, you know, the whole notion of chemistry is important.
"jaylen" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"Feel like he could help right now? Russ? Yeah. We did this. Didn't we? Oh, we did this already? I feel like we did, but you know, it would have to be a team that doesn't have a point guard, I guess. You know, dominate, which is, you know, there's some teams that can do that. And I think you were saying it's like it's a 500 team at best or maybe I was saying that somebody was saying right, not a contender, but not a tanking team. Yeah. Which is sort of what we had in OKC. So maybe go back to I don't know. I think they won. I think the a, I think they're too good to tank, but I think they'll actually try and take it the same time. Yeah, well, obviously they want when banana, which we have to speak about because I have a video in a dropper after this. So a lot of people on the show to want you to know, I've got it all uploaded, ready to go, pretty good title. So you guys gotta watch it. So I expect to have 747 views of this video as soon as we go a lot of dark hair and I make it live in a little bit after the live show. Also, if you wanna watch live shows, for business reasons, I gotta make these things unlisted after they're done. But what I'll probably do is drop links to them hours later in the community. So you can watch them as an unlisted video. And then I'm gonna probably just rip them and post them on my podcast side. So you can always listen to these as audio podcasts there as well, which would be great to do if you want it that way on all podcast platforms you have just to throw it out there. I know someone was asking about that earlier. But we have another super chat. We got to get to from Zack attack. Let's go. Is anybody named Zack called Zack attack? I'm pretty sure that happens in your growing up, right? Everyone I knew who Zach was Zach attack, right? I never heard that before. Oh, really? Wow. When I coach my kids 7 year old team, there's a Zach on that team. He was definitely Zack attack. Anyway, thank you so much, Zach. And do we already talk about this? Is this some famous football player? No, it's not. It kind of looks like one of them, but I don't think that's actually a, okay. Any something, anytime, something place. All right, I honestly think a package of brown, a white and grant Williams plus pick works. The best package Phoenix can offer as bridges Ken Johnson in 5 picks. Well, yeah, I mean, now that they have resigned Aiden because I think that wasn't Aidan part of the original talks or not. I think so, yeah, they officially signed them. And I think I talked about this yesterday on my magic podcast. Mikel bridges package is not enough. That's definitely not enough. So I agree with Zack attack there. Yeah, I mean, I love cam Johnson, actually. And the bridges is going to keep developing and be good. But he showed that there's, you know, he needs to get better still. But the leap that jaylen Brown could take in his future, I just feel like his potential is a lot higher than Mikel bridges, right? Maybe. I mean, I don't know. I think that his ceiling is higher anyway, but I'm not sure there's a much, much bigger leap. I mean, he's good. Jaylen Brown, listen, I've already talked about this AD nauseam. I like Jalen Brown better than Tatum.
"jaylen" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"Never had you never tested positive for it. Not that I know of. Okay. And by the way, neither have I, and if that's the case, and we haven't gotten it, we're one of, you know, maybe like 20% of the country at this point who hasn't gotten it. People are going down left and right around me. And so yeah, by the way, and I'm in the gym. I actually am when I'm coaching now I'm wearing a mask. I am not effing around. You know what? At one point I was wearing a mask, heavy, even like the whole like you look like a ninja. You know? Like I had the whole thing. And people thought I was crazy, but, you know, I was wearing that kind of mask at one point. And now I'm not, but you got a young kid at home, you don't want to deal with that either. That's a real problem because at any rate, but let's get back to the nets because and I'm trying to save a little bit of the Celtics stuff for our special guest who's coming on who you're going to love. But there's a lot of politics that do go on about this and how these things drop, how these things leak. It might not have been an intentionally just things or get out there before you know it. You can corroboration and then they release it. But here's the interesting question is, is what the deal ends up being? So what we were hearing was it was Jalen Brown Marcus smart and then a pick, probably. Is that what it was? Do you remember if there was anything else? Yeah, I think that was the deal breaker because they wanted Marcus smart, right? Right, or knowing me and having done this for a long enough time, what do you think of my reaction is that the self excited chance to trade Marcus smart? Well, you feel like that's good for the Celtics, the trademark is smart. I mean, there's two points to that though. Part of it is on the other side of things that many people believe he's the heart and soul of the team. But then on the other side, you also now have Malcolm Brogdon who could fill some of that role and with KD that would be pretty special. I mean, so I do see both sides of it. Yeah, and you remember I had said, well, a couple of things. You know, market smart played well. He didn't do a lot of the things that drives me crazy in the finals even. Sort of throwing the ball away, taking that threes, getting lost in a weak side, defensively. He kind of tamped those things down, but he didn't really like, didn't really do a whole lot of watch. I gotta go watch it. If I look at the game long, see, I don't remember, did he ever get like 20 points in the game or 8 or 9 assists? You know what? Let's look it up because I don't want to talk out of my ass here. If I'm logged even. Well, while you looked at up to change subjects slightly, I love the idea of a KD and Jalen Brown pairing more than Acadia and Jason Tatum pairing. Okay, so that's what I was kind of moving towards as well. Here's the thing about, you know, I tweeted this out in only a couple people got it yesterday. I tweeted out something like remind me what position does Jason Tatum play? Meaning that he plays the same position as Kevin grant. So it is a little bit weird, whereas jaylen Brown is more of that looks sort of shooting guard that
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"But absent the team getting its act together and playing more to its potential, Brown could be the one to acknowledge that the mix isn't right and seek a move now. There are a number of different things about this that I think we could get into that I think are interesting. But just overall, I mean, do you feel like in your reporting and talking to the people that you have that anything in terms of unhappiness from jaylen Brown and his camp is imminent? No, I mean, that was the point is that, you know, look, in terms of presentation of the story, have I thought about it a thousand times since it was posted? Sure. You know, I mean, the most important thing is getting your points across getting them received properly. It's up to me to make sure it gets red properly. And there's some question here, whether I did it properly or not. The idea here. And again, started off with that jaylen Brown, this is what he wants to work here. But there have been frustrations over the course of the year. And the reason I even got to this story is, I'm talking to people across the league, obviously that's basically the job. There's two phones sitting right there and I may calls and they ring. And that's basically the job. You know, I mean, and there are other people a lot of other people around the league doing the same thing that I'm doing. But when you're getting calls about jaylen Brown, you know, what kind of guys, how is he to deal with, and then you say, okay, well, where's this coming from? And they say, well, there's a belief around the league that was communicated to me that, you know, Jalen Brown might be available. And then, okay, well further. It might be available when. And what came back, then was most likely, if at all around the draft, well, and so why are you calling now? Because maybe these are teams that covet jaylen Brown that figure, hey, look, maybe we should get in on this now or try to, or see what we're going to have to do. And in one case, a GM told me, hey, you got to start preparing for these things. And because you have to be able to move fast if they show up. And so yeah, so that's where these people weren't getting this idea out of nowhere out of thin air. These teams around the league..
"jaylen" Discussed on The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"In the mood when I watch Scarface that's at. That was. That was God, but it was, you know, Al Pacino did and that was it was just so if you look at it now, it's funny. At that time, it was pretty serious when I can't imagine when it came out. Yeah, it must have been. When it came out it was unbelievable. But now you look back on that so many years ago and it's like really was he talking like that? Mimicking, you know, I'm saying hello to my little friend. It's like wait, then who is another actor they had in mind that turned it down? I don't know that one wasn't De Niro, but it was somebody else. I want to say man look I looked that up too. I will max. I mean, you got the back to back, you know, wins, blowing out teams now. You got Tatum and brown. Passing dues back and forth smiling. What's his name? Weren't you supposed to blow out Sacramento? Hold on, but you didn't let me finish it. You didn't hear my question though. I'm talking about seeing Tatum and brown hugging and reduced and all the time. We've never seen this before. Max, is this significant or what? Are these two? You think these two have reached a point of understanding or they've actually have a cohesive unit now? Best friends now? What I like about all this jokes away is they have addressed it. And that's the biggest thing for the longest time is like, you know, Brown doesn't like Tatum, Tatum doesn't like brown, and you never heard them talk about it. Then all of a sudden you heard Tatum come out and said, look, me and jaylan like each other. And we root be each other. And since then, it seems like they have cleared the air of people talking about one guy against the other. I mean, the question I wanted to ask you was jaylen Brown during Martin Luther King's day. Oh, that's great. And also celebration. Yeah, we gotta talk about it there. And he said, Martin Luther King was a great man and everybody in Boston went and then two seconds later he said, Boston has to work on this for being what a racist city. They got quiet real quick. And a couple of booze came out of there. See you heard that, right? I feel like people are talking about that. People told me about it 'cause I had my headphones on. I heard it. People tell me there was a couple of booze out of this. Someone's video. One of the videos that was one of the one that went viral, you can clearly hear some booze. You can hear it go down and then.
"jaylen" Discussed on The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"The longest time is like, you know, Brown doesn't like Tatum, Tatum doesn't like brown, and you never heard them talk about it. Then all of a sudden you heard Tatum come out and said, look. Me and jaylen like each other. And we root each other. And since then, it seems like they have cleared the air of people talking about one guy against the other. The big girls love that. Chicks love the last shot opportunity. So funny. Give me a task of so I can wipe my mouth. All right, finally back with a brand new episode of Cedric national podcast. I am just wait for bone alongside Cedric Maxwell, a brief hiatus. I mean, between me getting at a health and safety protocols and max feeling on the weather last week, we were finally able to get together this week. What's up max? How are we feeling? No, I'm feeling great, man. Happy. And, you know, all that subscribers who've been around and waited for, you know, we got some good segments for you. How about these two kids? One of them is Jayson Tatum. The other one is jaylen Brown, but man, they put one hell of a performance together. Combined for 66 points. The Boston Celtics gave the Sacramento Kings of beating. One 28 to 75, what was it? 36 from Tatum. You had 30 from jaylen and of course, Tatum coming off the 51 piece that he had at the nation's capital, which I was able to see up close and personal. It's been one hell of a run, I guess, but of course, two games, not quite enough, right? We've seen this team long enough, but how do you feel about them right now? Just wait, are you going to talk about The Oprah 27 for the 3.9? Are you going to get to that? For 20 max, that was weeks ago, man. It still was like, that is this glaring that think about that. These are all for me. Shooter. And you see how the law of averages works, though? And you know, here's another one. Steph Curry hasn't been shooting it well here lately. And that's kind of crazy when you think about the greatest shooter of all time. You know, not knocking down shots. Now, they can't say they can't get it going. But and then you look at us. So what's going on in Brooklyn? I mean, I'm not sure what the rant is doing up there now. And I think the craziest thing about it, what would happen.
"jaylen" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"So that's been clear for a minute now and I think this season in particular is very clear. It's a really fascinating one. It's like ideally, I don't think they should necessarily trade jaylen. I think he's a supreme talent. I like his age. It's like for me it's like, if you're keeping these two guys together and there's just really no visible path towards the championship because the roster that you have, the rest of it they had, I thought it was really good roster. And a lot of talent, I thought there was depth. I thought they had a good mix of veterans and young players. And it's just like, it's not, that's not the case right now. It's not working out. And their strategy had it coming into the season was to resign a lot of those guys to long-term deals. So continuity is kind of out the window here. You're not going to roll it back with what you have. Jaylen brown's current contract expires not next season, but the year after that. So it's like the clock is ticking on him. I know a lot of the feedback that I got was like, Jason Tatum is going to be upset if you trade Jalen and then he's going to walk and it's like, okay, he just signed like a 5 year extension. Let's settle down. And start that clock the minute that they get the deals and the extensions, it's so weird to me. It's like you've got when are you supposed to trade people or not trade people? I'm sorry. What are you supposed to make anything happen with the rest of your roster? If you can't do it shortly after they are locked in. They get over that. If you can win and if you show a better way, but you have to be willing to do that. Otherwise, what's the point? Do you think Tatum was super pumped about I mean he hit what could have been the game? He played. I thought first of all, I thought it was his best game of the season last night..
"jaylen" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"To me, I'm just of the opinion that with some of these guys and some of these teams, they have two guys that belong in the conversation. By the way, jaylen brown's also not in the top ten here as far as voting for front court, which is a little bit surprising to me. We're going to have a long Jalen we're going to have a long Jalen Brown conversation. Yeah, like a couple of minutes. So I mean, to me, you could easily have him there, and I wouldn't think it was crazy. I know, again, I know his time. But I think he's been really good this year. I think he's been fine. To me, it's not as a parent of a drop off. There has been with Tatum and maybe it's just that the team is a mess in disarray and the fact that there's not as much ball handling as there was on the teams before that he's got more responsibility, whatever it is. It doesn't matter. Again, like you said, it's probably hand wringing to the point where it's unnecessary, but butler certainly deserves to be there, Jared Allen certainly deserves to be there. If you count de Rosen as a front court guy, he deserves to be there. Lamella ball, there's different guys, you could put on the team. I wouldn't necessarily be there over Tatum, but if you did it, I would be fine with it. If Tatum makes it, I'm fine with it. I just kind of feel like you have my point the reason I included Tatum in the conversations. You have a lot of guys that have not been the most efficient this year or they're normal efficient selves this year that are going to make the team. And in some cases, mostly in the west. And so maybe I shouldn't love him in there. In the west, you've got guys that are up for this conversation that really don't deserve to be. Other than what their name is. And like I said, Lillard is, I think the poster child for that this year, which I hate that it had to be him, I like Damian Lillard. I know he's played through injury. I know his situation in Portland has been a total mess. And you know, and maybe there's something to be said for whether he needed to come out and say something more firmly, I guess he's always said that he plans to stay. So it's not really on him at a certain point, but that situation has been a mess and his numbers reflect that and him just not being healthy in the ball and the foul rules and the changing foul rules. So I mean, like I said, it's probably more of a Western Conference thing, but I do think Tatum has some of that going on as well. Yeah, no, that's all. Fair, and well and good. Who are you most happy for when you looked at when you first saw this list? Was there a name that popped out to you? Or you were like, oh, look at that guy. He's getting recognized. That's wonderful. It was Wiggins, honestly. You know, I think that he's someone that I can't think of too many players in NBA history recent NBA history that have had kind of the run that he's had.
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"You had the truncated off season last year where you know the seeds get done and you know August of birth. Sure, that all of a sudden, they're playing a little bit, you know, in in December they don't have a full offseason to really rest their bodies recover, and then work that they need to work and train them. We need to train to get better, you get strong faster to get better at shooting all these things and I would bet that Brown is going to get better. And I would take that bet in terms of like, I would rather see that than Panic trade for a bad deal right now or Damian Lillard right now, let's see what it looks like in this this upcoming season. I mean, we know bills not really going anywhere cuz he never wants to go anywhere. He's very, very loyal to that franchise in Dane? Yeah, he's asked out a little bit. We're not totally quite sure exactly what that's going to look like if he does fully a scout mean the the reports of course, Chris needs the of sports, you know, illustrates a picture that may be dead. So happy with what's going on. But I only need to panic trade for a Dame right now about Jaylen Brown, be a great piece and as Bradfield to me a little bit more attractive, at least want to see what Jaylen Brown and Jayson. Tatum look like dead. Under new head, coach for the full offseason. I think it could be really interesting. Okay. So I would rather keep Jaylen Brown than trade in but it's a little too bold for my blood as of this moment that again we'll see what happens in the upcoming offseason here. As we get closer to the Team, USA basketball, summer league, and all those things before we keep talking about trades, I'll get to you guys today show is brought to you by betonline.com. That online is the fastest, and easiest way for you.
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"I could possibly could trade for Brad Beal and have filled Tatum and brown? Like, is that realistic? I don't know. It must feel asks out that particular way, at least, like, I'm only going to go to Boston, like, what kind of that makes that makes it more difficult for watching the do anything of value, right? But that's really the only thing that's going to really Elevate them to that status. I mean, I love the Celtics. I think all of us, listen, this podcast do, but I think you're kidding yourself. If you think they have enough time to go against the Nets right now, we'll see how the bench, you know, you know, rounds into form and we'll see what you know Brooke looks like next year. But Brooklyn is a team that you were chasing and they would have been the NBA champs this year if they didn't get hurt or or even if that, right? Even if if Durant foots behind the line against the Bucks in game seven, You think they beat the odds for the NBA Finals? Durant literally by himself essentially? Yeah, I think it's possible. So again, I think you have some room to make up there and I don't think you have to panic trade right now in live, in from the year. After year, you have some time to develop, which brings me to some rumors about Jaylen Brown. Okay, now Jaylen, Brown has been thrown around and trade rumors forever. I'm going to go back to the song, Popular stuff, the Paul George stuff, where, you know, seems like a Brooklyn pics going or whatever Jaylen Brown essentially with her, as a draft pick, or as an actual player has been involved with trade seems like forever at this point, right boss man. It's Chris Mannix, of course, or Sports Illustrated, but on the show a few times, came up to the day on NBC Sports. Boston said, basically, you know, I could see the Celtics training Jaylen Brown for a Damian Lillard Bradley Beal, okay? And look brat Jaylen, Brown is an excellent piece in a trade. If you want to obtain either of those guys, right? Both of those guys are Next Level scores. We all know this date of birth. Absolutely breathtaking. Brad Beale. You know, is close to the league leader in scoring, you know, pretty much every single year at this point in both those guys alongside Jayson. Tatum I think I'm getting ideas, right? I guess, Jason who again took the blunt of the offense of responsibility. Again, the entire Net series cuz he was the only kind of they were fully capable of getting shot, whatever you want and right, you know, or give Campbell a little bit, I guess. But you know, it was really the Jayson Tatum Joe and I enjoyed every second of it would give him a little bit of a break on that end, right? No question either dead or Bill, but if you're trading for Damian Lillard, I feel like that's a win now. Moved to Boston, doesn't really to make right now and I'm not going to sit here. It's later name Willard. It's not what's happened, daily low. It again is breathtaking on the basketball court. When you hear like, if you're, you have like, an MBA group, text or whatever thread that you have, and somebody is like, hey game-mode, he check game. Yeah, it's much too easy. No question about him, he would be the best point guard on the Celtics of the, in, the modern are the Celtics. Since I don't know if you go beyond Rondo, for sure, no question about my name is literally breathtaking. He's, he can make any shot in the court at any time. He's clutches, he'll he's had playoff proven experience. He's an amazing player by all means, okay? But I'll.
"jaylen" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"Been available in and that that is hurt you. I don't know if this bad luck but what team hasn't had bad luck this year. When you think about injuries and often you give me a team and you know, okay see what they did, sending a portrait home said you know we going to pay, you Thirty million that we need you to go just come to the gym, every two weeks and you know, get on Thursday. Two sides by America is a great freaking country. I tell highest rate, practice player in NBA history. This is this is why I need to say why I disagree with John's blessing, take here. This injury, obviously. Yes, it's an excuse. But the only thing that could have happened to the Celtics. In the playoffs was that they? They could have proven me wrong. I already believed that they were that they were toast. So I don't really need an additional excuse. For them to lose in the playoffs, or in the plan already thought they were going to. The only thing they could have done was proven me wrong. Improving, in my opinion. Most fans wrong would probably don't didn't believe in them at this point. Anyways, so you know what? Maybe now they are fully healthy and we can see what they do here. Maybe we're okay with bring back, the whole band and and see if they can put a healthy season together. Now, you don't know, now, you're right off to go quietly into the night and you hope that Jaylen Brown makes a full recovery. I'm sure that he will, I don't know how it changes their offseason plans if they had any with him. And now you pretty much say, like you said, John, well that's that's that's a good excuse for I guess like the final like years from now. We'll look back in that season. I go. Well, they lost you in the ground yet. They didn't make the playoffs..
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"A lot of a lot of people Brandon Ingram only, you know, I don't really thought each haven't had a Ben Simmons and then who's going to be the third pick it was like well, we're kind of screwed cuz we got the third pick and a two-person draft. Well it may turn out the job. Brown is better than all of them and and frankly, I think this is the point the scouts were making who would you rather have right now a guy who may be great defender off but with a little bit more size but offensively is really really challenged and someone who you can really easily guard game plan against what exactly is a three-level what you can do with a three-level scorer has incredible athleticism and a growing Port sense that allows them to find the open man. I mean, they're it's he's a problem. He is a problem right now, and I don't think I'm take I think I would take I wouldn't take Ben Simmons over Jaylen Brown don't question. Wait what I went to jail the front over been sentenced. Oh, no, I thought you said you would sorry. Thank you. I would not sure. Yeah. No, I would not under any circumstances take Jaylen brown or take Ben Simmons over Jaylen Brown. Yeah. I'm I'm sold out on Ben Simmons to begin with Jaylin is I don't like him and you know what? He's such a great fit for Doc like I guess if there's a conversation here since we've talked about jaylin's so much and he is awesome and Tatum gets so much play. It's okay that we don't talk about them on this episode cuz he's a Phenom but but you know Ben Simmons with Doc is a great fit, but only under one circumstance and Beads gotta be healthy, you know, because if if impede isn't healthy that whole thing falls apart, Yeah, I think well, I don't know. I mean I think part of the problems that Simmons has are that that he's playing with with him being the team player and beat is I honestly I think that's part of the part of the problem, you know, is that I mean, he needs a great player. I'm just not sure that that someone who doesn't really space wage war for him is really the best fit. I mean, I guess what I'm saying is both guys are hurt by the fact that neither one complements The Other Well conversely in Boston, aren't you best player totally complementary? Yeah, you know only willing to pass, you know, I think the growth between Tatum and brown both of them in their ability of as a matter of fact, the early part of the season was like come on Tatum what the hell, you know what I mean brown brown would continue to defer potato wouldn't and off..
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"Was that the First Choice game know it wasn't Detroit game. Yeah. Yeah. Well the first Detroit game where the step back or was it was Indiana, wasn't it? Anyway talking about Jalen. Are you talking about Tatum? I'm talking about they don't talking about. Yeah step back and Seventeen seconds. I was thinking was Indiana. Yeah. Yeah. So, here's the thing, right? So that would there was a whole bunch of issues. There there was you know, it was the ball wasn't moving the whole bunch of stuff and Jaylen really was about the shot. He wasn't getting opportunities. I think that was the one where they went over 10 or one 4:10 in the last four minutes or something else that might have been to Detroit the two were kind of for whatever reason those two games gotta the first Indiana game of the first Detroit game kind of blend in. But anyway General absolutely has to be part of the club situation. Yeah, but to go back to the the mentality thing one thing I would say is I don't think I think you're right in terms of jail and becoming who he is dead. Solutely the Celtics have embraced and and supported his his Endeavors when you do go in a lot of places even a say like Boston that gets real like angsty about stuff sometimes unnecessarily often necessarily, you know, they haven't hasn't been a whole lot of hullabaloo about him going to Harvard or him going to my team and talking about stuff. Thankfully that hasn't happened or him going down to Atlanta and that conversation about whether or not they should play and then being truly begin saying to the entire league if you're not going to make use of this time, we should frigging play and called out probably the most notable player of his wage. No lifetime, absolutely and and I'll be in the first and I think it hasn't been said that outright that he did it, but certainly the home Organized the efforts into my the start the Miami again trying to bring highlight and issues that are they're real and and on front of mine for so many players wage being the leader who can bring that to the tour. So it's the southern Sonata squelching that credit to the Celtics for getting out of the way, but most of all credit Jaylen Brown just say, okay..
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"Point that the point that we're making though is that the importance of the metal approach is so critical and that's what's so I'm afraid he had that's what Larry had time to time to time. To Jaylen Brown, you know for every desk he was this was what you're how quickly everyone has adopted that narrative four-page Pritchard, but a number 3 pick in the draft and Jaylen Brown, it was described as a negative is you know, I don't want to feed into certain narratives, right? But that's a truth. That's a that's a truth in a criticism that came up for brown just in this scenario right in this scenario Brown received criticism almost like he would be distracted by his goals. And I love what Brad Stevens said at the earlier part of the Season about that. You know what I mean? Like he wants more money. That's a good thing right how great this is where I want to go the intellect piece how great is it that the Boston Celtics don't see dead. Jalen's varied interest as a threat to his ability to be successful in the NBA. Thank you organization. Because the reason that I'm just driving right now is because you have not stifled him how many have that narrative coming out of the draft? Have you been drafted by a different team who bought into that potentially would have Bots to that narrative how stifled with Jaylen Brown have been how stifled could he have been and that's yeah. I I just love that they didn't it can't shoot threes bang too distracted. Can't be number one score is one of the most efficient scorers on this team. I mean, I know that everybody wants to make this whole argument between a brown and my son, you know is going to turn 18 in April is kind of yanked me into that. He wants to take the potato, but I'm like dude. I love them both. You know I suck. Prior to the draft they were my first choices, you know and didn't think we would get either one of them for various different reasons. And but if you go back and listen to this show, you'll know that in January Tatum was the one I wanted now because I said folks was the pick and had to be the pic but man there was a part of me that just wishes it would have wound up being Tatum and there it happened, you know, and then go back and I want to Brown so I'm not buying it. I'm not going to I'm not going to feed into the pinion pitting them against each other, but I told my son Jaylen Brown to this point in the season just thought most efficient. He's like, yeah, but you want the ball and Tatum's hands at the end of the game. Like listen, man. They all feed off of each other. And yes Tatum is definitely my primary option, but don't get it twisted dish. The ball should be in Browns hands at the end of games and they will benefit the both of them if it is and he's got it in him to do it and he absolutely does fight through doubles wage. The way he is working that mid-range came to set everything else up good for you young man good for you. So yeah, totally agree on much of that Jalen. I mean, I think which game was what was the game that they lost with the the other three?.
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"Going to go when you are a player like like a brown and I feel like you know, I'm so much more akin to him. Is that everybody is damn right. Now, this is Jayson Tatum steam when in fact you see brown the way he's playing he is probably having so far a better year the question. He's been exceptional in in the way. He's developed as a player. So I just I love the fact that they seem to like each other and they seem to be buddies. They seem to be wish I asked the in the Sundance key. They seem to be Batman and Robin and you know, everybody said I had a friend of mine one day saying that about you know, Batman and Robin you said man Batman, you know gets all of us off. They say you know what Robin had a hell of a gig he had one nail. But yeah, and I think that's the same way. I look at Jalen right now. In fact, he has a a great gig she doesn't have the pressure. So I think that's a really good thing. He also doesn't seem to care to be Batman. You know, I think that we talked about this with a Sherrod Blakely a couple of shows ago. He wants to be that guy. I mean everyone wants to be that guy but he cares more about being that guy off the floor with regard to everything that we talked about off the top of the show and making the world a better place when it comes to basketball which is still absolutely a priority Germany continues to Excel and grow every single offseason throughout these years. He doesn't mind being Robin and letting Jason be Batman. He's he's not fighting City Hall and that's that always try to tell people that when you are when when I got Larry Bird coming in I could have been tried to be disruptive and try to say oh, this is I'm averaging twenty almost wage. Once again, I'm not trying to hear this but if you are smart about the game, you understand that you utilize everything in the game when Larry Bird came in now there was a proving Point may prove Proclaim when I play with him. I remember, you know him walking in the first game and I was sitting up on that those engine up there and I'm thinking yeah Great White Hope we go. Yeah, but after that practice, I walked up to the first black person that could see and going you know, what white guy can play off and use that as like fuel. Okay. Well, I'm going to use him to get where I have to be they're going to be opportunities for me and I think jail and sees the same thing that you know, they're going to be opportunities for me. Jason is the one that's getting the headlines. But you know again if you are the guy kind of sitting back a little bit it's not as much pressure off or you because you the expectation level is now the superstars. This is the as strong Randy likes to use the ancillary players. It's about superstars. Yeah, it's it's just fun to watch the relationship grow and I made the argument a couple of shows ago that you know, they're going to be points. In the season where again Kayden gets a lot of the attention, you know, both of them and just you know from people on the court in general. He's facing a lot more double teams nowadays and you know trying to find an navigate his way around those has been fun to watch these developing that side of his game. The one that I argued in and I called for basically is your Tatum at some points is going to have to let you know defer to Jaylen Brown and let Jaylen Brown take them under need to go how important is that, you know,.