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Fresh update on "jaylen" discussed on Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast
"Or maybe the brightest of all the young stars in Dallas. That's just saying. We just speaks to the breadth of talent of the young and young talent in this league, you know? We mentioned Mariah, we mentioned Trey young, we mentioned, you know, Booker, but, you know, jokic is a treasure and Dončić is a treasure. And they're both young. And that's great. Yeah, there's just enough. I feel like even the really bad teams now have something like, again, Houston, they're bad. But you're going to want to see jaylen green. Detroit is bad. They're going to be awful. You're going to want to watch kid Cunningham. I just feel like, you know, there's enough on every team. Obviously Philly, even, oh, sure. It doesn't play. Yeah, yeah. You got Joelle, you got the Ben Simmons saga. I don't know up and down the line. I just feel like most teams in the NBA, Orlando withstanding. I mean, forget them. I mean, if you're a whop, you could find a game every night. Yeah. And that hasn't always been the case. Right. Guys, thanks a lot. Check us out. Pods everywhere, Spotify, iTunes, all the biggies. I was feeling.
No 12 Oklahoma State rallies late to beat No. 25 Texas 32-24
"Twelve ranked Oklahoma state remains unbeaten after scoring the last nineteen points in a thirty two twenty four victory over number twenty five Texas Tanner brown's fourth field goal of the game gave the cowboys their first lead Spencer Sanders gave Oklahoma state briefing room by scrambling for a ten yard TD with two eighteen remaining Jaylen Warren finished with one hundred ninety four yards rushing on thirty three carries Jason Taylor the second eighty five yard interception returned for a touchdown in the second quarter kept the six in Ocala boys in the game Texas led seventeen three and twenty four thirteen before falling to four and three I'm Dave Ferrie
Fresh update on "jaylen" discussed on Celtics Lab Podcast
"Unappealing yet appeal. Thanks again to germany. Do stop by and just said maybe next time these year will have something a little more uplifting to talk about speaking of uplifting. I suppose you're going to hop in the news because the celtics is just about to start and we thought it was going to be happy. We thought it was easy. And then jalen brown got covert and al horford is still coverted. End rob williams. Knees are no good so gentlemen just from a health perspective. Highly filling about the state of the boston celtics pleasantly anxious. What else is new at this team. Right i feel like i have been like pretty invested in the celtics. Basically since the big three era started. And i can't think of a single period of time. Since the big three era began with pierce allen and garnett did the roster has been entirely completely healthy for a long stretch. So it's it's irritating. It's so you're dating but unfortunately it is just more same for the sees the good news jaylen brown sounds like he is on track to play mars opener There's pictures of him getting playing. I would have to imagine if he's getting on the plane to play in new york that means that he is good. Go on al horford is probably out. Which is a bummer. But it sounds like based on press conferences for yesterday that he's getting better he's on the man and he should be back relatively sued so hopefully of guys will not be having a covert outbreak similar to the one that they had last year in november. the rodney tendonitis. Definitely is a concern. Bravo's de plagued by chronic the issues for basically his whole career kind of the big cap on his potential But he sounds like he's on track to play Think will act will just have to see how he's moving on the court up for able to make decisions on kind of where he's at. An schroeder obviously schroeder was a pretty important free agent acquisition sees this year and a lotta people myself included are expecting to play a pretty significant part in their season so for him to be already in kind of the injuries owned right now is not great But we'll see you know. Hopefully it's just a thing that can kind of blow over a can move on and stay relatively healthy knock on what looks pretty decent And that last preseason game but he played from what i understand. It was just an abundance of caution thing as as was supposedly the case with rob though. Obviously they're not going to be well. Maybe they won't be. We using the c pretty different tenor coming from dochas team and transparency. Shall we say They do seem to be a lot more forthcoming talking about criticism. So maybe we can expect a lot more honesty when it comes to dinged up players. I am personally pretty optimistic. You don't wanna see any of this stuff. But as far as you know injuries at the start of the season go unavailability. All that kinda stuff. It's about as minor could be. You also have to mention another injury that is not going to prevent the celtics play but pay pritchard did break his nose and it's going to be wearing a mask we'll see whether this is a hindrance to peyton or what i think is likely an accelerate. Two is ridiculous. three-point shooting. I just have a feeling. That's a guy who plays better with the mask on and i think we ever. It goes without saying that you should always mask. Up right Speaking of accountability. Let's talk a bit doke regime because it seems like he is not messing around and that players are going to be a little more under his time than maybe perhaps in the brad..
Nailor catches 3 TDs, No. 11 Michigan State tops Rutgers
"Receiver Jaylen Naylor caught three touchdown pass to repel the number eleven ranked Michigan state Spartans past records on the road by the final score thirty one to thirteen neither had five grabs for two hundred twenty one yards including remarkable scoring plays of sixty three sixty three and sixty five yards from Spartan quarterback Payton Thorne who threw for three hundred thirty nine yards on the day trying to dispose of plays and everything in those results today painting found me a few of them and and then maybe easier you know he told me to so so it's nice to make it easier to quit a very easy piece of cake you know the definition is to close off and I started running back Kenneth Walker twenty nine terrace for two or three three yards including a school record ninety four yard touchdown run Mike Moriarty Piscataway New Jersey
Fresh update on "jaylen" discussed on Celtics Lab Podcast
"That's my plug. What is due player. You vocalist as guitar Lovely very coolest. He's got the voice for it. I think he could do get serenaded. The crowd of his voice but omitted debates works fine limited to backup vocals for now. But we'll see all right. We'll jeremy we certainly did. Not bring you onto your about alex's band although i do i recommend devine's twitter We brought you want because we're gonna hop right into the celtics lab and really discuss. What is a really complicated situation. Last week we talked about how sports is kind of like american public life under a microscope. And so where. Unions and labor are interacting with the organization interacting with local. Laws really comes into play with the cova staff the vaccine mandates local mandates etcetera etcetera. So hopefully Dr d you can talk us through this stuff to. Let's start right at the top. The mvp a is surprising. Some people because they have Stuck up for players who chose to not get vaccinated. Jaylen brown for example has been really using the line. It's a personal choice. When asked about the so why do you think the nba is taking this line. And what do you think of that. Perspective more. Broadly shore So i don't know how surprising is think about a couple of things. Play one is that you pointed out cam in those introducing. This conversation you know sports exists in. America exists within the context of america. And and so we see the same sort of thanks in sports as we see in other industries and that goes for labor management interactions. And so you know. I mean there there is. There is an Tension that exists between management and labor. That has over the years allowed for progress. employees have been able to earn and enjoy. You know we're talking about the forty hour week senator. And so there's a pushing always. So i think part of it was maybe a little bit cynical bathing. A part of it is that if management wants something than the players association Gets it a little bit That's a piece of it. I think another piece. In bigger piece of it is that i think that there are disproportionate number of marquee players among those who are not interested in getting vaccinated or were mum on the topic for months than maybe shorter eventually came morales. I think it's conceivable that if you had the portion of players who aren't getting vaccinated and the majority of those players were guys which kind of hanging on bottom wrong into the bench. We might have had a different approach from pa to be honest Jeremy thanks for saying at night. I just wonder as a kind of quick follow up to what you just said. In general you know kind of taking it outside of the kind of covent situation specifically in your experience How much power can even a select group.
Houston Rockets, John Wall Working to Find Trade Deal
"Keith, let's start things off with John wall, a Houston rocket for now. But will not be a Houston rocket into the future. It sounds like he is going to be treatable. The rockets are hoping. They're hoping anyway. Let's get into that. What's going to happen here? The rockets, John wall working together to try to find a trade and he will not play any more games for Houston. Yeah, so this is that working together part is where it's very different from the 76ers and Ben Simmons who are not exactly working together. They're kind of working apart right now. So it sounds like by all accounts John wall has been very good in his time in Houston. He's been somebody that the younger players have really come to rely on for leadership. He's been a great leader for them. In the rockets are looking at insane. Look, we have a ton of guards that we want to play young guards to Kevin Porter junior, jaylen green, Josh Christopher, just adding in the last couple of years. Kyrie Thomas, who we picked up on a late season edition last year and he played quite well for them. So they want to play those guys. They don't necessarily want to play John wall, nor do they want to have John wall get hurt in kind of completely ruined maybe whatever little tiny modicum of trade value he may have left. There's no other way to slice this. It's 91.6 million. That he is owed. It's bad money. There's John wall would probably say at the same thing. Good for John wall for getting him what he did. And this is why you should never criticize a pointer for taking a max contract when it's offered to him. Team, other story we can have there. But at the time this contract was offered, wasn't necessarily as a bad contract. And either he's one of the first class of supermax guys to get it. So yeah, so what they're going to do is they're going to have them come to camp. He sounds like he's going to be there to kind of almost be like a glorified assistant coach. While they continue to try to work on
Fresh update on "jaylen" discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Talk about owners. Our guy bob sarver. I was flagging this all off season. Everybody thought I was just starting shit. Looking at the 1617 years of cyber history and people are telling me that he's going to show out max contracts for Booker and ayton, a big contract for Chris Paul and then take care of Macau bridges. And I was suspicious. It didn't add up to me. We've never seen him spend money like that before. What we saw happen over the last week or so, the day to day with bridges for 90 million for four years, which I liked. I think he's more than a three and D guy. I think he's actually he's one of those guys. Yeah, he's one of those guys bill that could take off. To me, it's a little jaylen brownie. I don't know if he'll be as good as jaylen Brown, but I think he's closer to jaylen Brown than typical three and D guy. Zach was a little more down on it, which I was surprised by. I look forward to arguing about it with him. But I thought that was a really fair price, 'cause if he gets in the open market, I'm sorry, he's getting a 105 110 million for four years. He just is. And then they took care of it, which I was surprised by because, well, that's what surprised me. He was borderline unplayable last year in that Brooklyn series. And I think Kyrie was just out on him. And they gave him four for 43, but then for whatever reason, held the fort with ayton. And I would have take 8 now for both of those guys as much as I like bridges, right? If it's like 8 or those two, I'm taking 8. Yeah. And I mean, definitely over sham. And again, I don't want to dump on him, but the thing that was interesting about 8 to me. So it's almost like to savor have old information, right? So the old information told you, don't pay big money to big men because they're no longer part of the landscape. They can't succeed. You can't succeed and win with a big man. Well, we turned that on its ear last season, didn't we? I mean, pretty much did. And ain't was one of the leading candidates for that. He made huge difference in what they did. And we have what he kind of gets Joker was like that alone is why he should get the right. And we haven't even begun to see what he can accomplish. So this was such a fail on my I mean such a fail. My gosh. So fail. How about this? Sell the team if you're not gonna. If you're not gonna pay Booker and 8 in the max, why do you want a team? Just sell it. You'll get like $3. Right. What's the point of having the team? Exactly. And it's interesting that they ponied up big time for for Chris Paul. Now, I would have resigned Chris Paul, but I would have been a little more judicious on how much I paid him. Wouldn't you? Well, rosello kicked the tires on that one. He said it's basically two years guaranteed third year partial guarantee that there's kind of a team option. So feel better already. Good. No, but it's still a hefty price for somebody who's going to be basically 40 by the time he's done. I just had injuries. Who's had injuries, including last year, during your run, you know? And I think Sarah was probably looking at the totality of all these contracts together. Not this year, but next year. And it's a little James Harden Sam presti ish where they just there was a move that could have made and they could have gotten cute. And they got cute.
Tua's TD Pass, Turnover by Howard Lift Dolphins Over Pats
"To a ton of I. lo I. in the dolphin spoiled back Jones NFL debut with the season opening seventeen sixteen win over New England talk of a loaf in a sixteen of twenty seven with two hundred two yards and the go ahead three yard TD pass to debuting number six overall pick Jaylen waddle to put Miami ahead for good early in the third quarter it's all about making adjustments and that's what we tried to do the second half you know obviously we gotta execute a lot better Jones the number fifteen overall pick out of Alabama three for two hundred eighty one yards and a touchdown in his pro debut for the patriots I can do a better job than everyone else I thought they played hard we can play even harder Damien Harris had a hundred rushing yards for New England guessing cooled off Foxboro Massachusetts
"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. Each and every day every day is different. And that's what i love about the unknown. And i'm gonna treat it like that and we just gonna continue to bill because i think we got great mas and organization that really want to coach the whole person. And that's what i'm really excited about. You decided to upgrade your outdoor deck. So you ordered the essentials. Power washer said a patio chairs and a shiny new grill. And you use your bank of america. Customized cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback online shopping and up to five point. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.
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"You had the truncated off season last year where you know the seeds get done and you know August of birth. Sure, that all of a sudden, they're playing a little bit, you know, in in December they don't have a full offseason to really rest their bodies recover, and then work that they need to work and train them. We need to train to get better, you get strong faster to get better at shooting all these things and I would bet that Brown is going to get better. And I would take that bet in terms of like, I would rather see that than Panic trade for a bad deal right now or Damian Lillard right now, let's see what it looks like in this this upcoming season. I mean, we know bills not really going anywhere cuz he never wants to go anywhere. He's very, very loyal to that franchise in Dane? Yeah, he's asked out a little bit. We're not totally quite sure exactly what that's going to look like if he does fully a scout mean the the reports of course, Chris needs the of sports, you know, illustrates a picture that may be dead. So happy with what's going on. But I only need to panic trade for a Dame right now about Jaylen Brown, be a great piece and as Bradfield to me a little bit more attractive, at least want to see what Jaylen Brown and Jayson. Tatum look like dead. Under new head, coach for the full offseason. I think it could be really interesting. Okay. So I would rather keep Jaylen Brown than trade in but it's a little too bold for my blood as of this moment that again we'll see what happens in the upcoming offseason here. As we get closer to the Team, USA basketball, summer league, and all those things before we keep talking about trades, I'll get to you guys today show is brought to you by betonline.com. That online is the fastest, and easiest way for you.
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"Be honest with you, he handicaps your financial flexibility down the road as his cat. That goes from 39 million this year, to 49020000 for, that makes building your team a little bit more difficult. Now, you have Jason Tatum and Damian Lillard's, like, dude, how much do you have to do? Well, you know the bench matters and like as we found out small are point guards and the Celtics they're a little bit more injury-prone prone to the longer the season goes in the older they get I'm just looking Dame has not been hurt that much throughout his career wage. But, you know that fear after watching Kyrie get hurt after watching Kemba Walker, get hurt, you know, that's gotta be, at least in the back of your mind. Watching Isaiah Thomas get hurt mean. How many small game need to get her before we have it? Like maybe we, maybe this should invest in a smaller Gardener. If they do not a huge number on your cap sheet, right? It's hard to fill out the rest rest of the roster when I pay them in, in, in, in Willard to be making close to eighty million dollars, you know, in one year cats would go up how much. I don't have the answer to that. Smarter people do to them, so listening to me. So again, I like Damian Lillard, there's no question, I love him, he's fun to watch. Would it be fun to watch in the Celtics? Absolutely, but I talked myself into it if they traded for him. No question. I would flick like that. Oh, yeah, Willard. Let's go, just going to be fantastic. But in my opinion, I would not trade Jalen Brown for Damian Lillard. Again. B o, another unbelievable score happens to be Jayson Tatum's like best phone number. NBA right? Be a little bit younger little less expensive than name but there's a contract extension coming up. That's going to get him way up there with them. There's an obvious attraction there. But again, if you're giving up Jaylen Brown for Bradley Beal, you've got to know one that video is going to lock in an extension. Basically, to just gives you, you know, some sometimes Jayson Tatum terms of like, Hey we're getting your friends here, we're building a team around you that you would like, you know, and don't get me started on the whole Jaylen Brown and Jayson, Tatum aren't friends thing off the sport. And I look, I got a new what Lou merloni a little bit over a couple of weeks ago about this look in in. They don't have to be best friends but like they're clearly friendly on the court and off the court and you didn't Jaylen the other day saying is like brother watches do sometimes or like some family relative watches do so like when they need them to like let's get, let's get a little bit. You know. At least it's going to same page here when it comes to the brown and Jacob. The Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum relationship their friends. They're not best of friends and doesn't matter. They just long as they're on court, relationship stays great. I'm okay with that. But when you trade for Brad Beal, you have to know that those two guys can at least get you closer to the KD part and Kyrie Brooklyn Nets. Is it do that? I don't know..
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"I could possibly could trade for Brad Beal and have filled Tatum and brown? Like, is that realistic? I don't know. It must feel asks out that particular way, at least, like, I'm only going to go to Boston, like, what kind of that makes that makes it more difficult for watching the do anything of value, right? But that's really the only thing that's going to really Elevate them to that status. I mean, I love the Celtics. I think all of us, listen, this podcast do, but I think you're kidding yourself. If you think they have enough time to go against the Nets right now, we'll see how the bench, you know, you know, rounds into form and we'll see what you know Brooke looks like next year. But Brooklyn is a team that you were chasing and they would have been the NBA champs this year if they didn't get hurt or or even if that, right? Even if if Durant foots behind the line against the Bucks in game seven, You think they beat the odds for the NBA Finals? Durant literally by himself essentially? Yeah, I think it's possible. So again, I think you have some room to make up there and I don't think you have to panic trade right now in live, in from the year. After year, you have some time to develop, which brings me to some rumors about Jaylen Brown. Okay, now Jaylen, Brown has been thrown around and trade rumors forever. I'm going to go back to the song, Popular stuff, the Paul George stuff, where, you know, seems like a Brooklyn pics going or whatever Jaylen Brown essentially with her, as a draft pick, or as an actual player has been involved with trade seems like forever at this point, right boss man. It's Chris Mannix, of course, or Sports Illustrated, but on the show a few times, came up to the day on NBC Sports. Boston said, basically, you know, I could see the Celtics training Jaylen Brown for a Damian Lillard Bradley Beal, okay? And look brat Jaylen, Brown is an excellent piece in a trade. If you want to obtain either of those guys, right? Both of those guys are Next Level scores. We all know this date of birth. Absolutely breathtaking. Brad Beale. You know, is close to the league leader in scoring, you know, pretty much every single year at this point in both those guys alongside Jayson. Tatum I think I'm getting ideas, right? I guess, Jason who again took the blunt of the offense of responsibility. Again, the entire Net series cuz he was the only kind of they were fully capable of getting shot, whatever you want and right, you know, or give Campbell a little bit, I guess. But you know, it was really the Jayson Tatum Joe and I enjoyed every second of it would give him a little bit of a break on that end, right? No question either dead or Bill, but if you're trading for Damian Lillard, I feel like that's a win now. Moved to Boston, doesn't really to make right now and I'm not going to sit here. It's later name Willard. It's not what's happened, daily low. It again is breathtaking on the basketball court. When you hear like, if you're, you have like, an MBA group, text or whatever thread that you have, and somebody is like, hey game-mode, he check game. Yeah, it's much too easy. No question about him, he would be the best point guard on the Celtics of the, in, the modern are the Celtics. Since I don't know if you go beyond Rondo, for sure, no question about my name is literally breathtaking. He's, he can make any shot in the court at any time. He's clutches, he'll he's had playoff proven experience. He's an amazing player by all means, okay? But I'll.
"jaylen" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"Another guy, I mean, nobody's going into the stands on this team to go out of bed. Who's stepping out of line? No, but Max, you don't mind, don't do that. Max, do you think that's something to sell? It should be targeting that type of a player going into next season. They need some toughness or dead or you just say, you know what, bring the van put the bring the band back together and fill in the final roster spots. Anyway, you can come like you, they need some assholes. And with without those vessels I think they're not going anybody's fast. I get hope you guys. You hear me? I didn't freeze up. No, you're good. I think that when you look at, look at this team, as I said before, and somebody took a video of this show, me one Jayson, Tatum and brown Jayson Tatum and brown play. A probably played maybe over three hundred games in in the NBA off. You name me one time that they've gone up and somebody has filed them hard and they've got a princess. If you do that instead again I mean like your damn head off. There's not one time. Somebody showed me, sick, always Jalen and Jake. Cried, know he got up Jake. He knocked her down, by mistake and then Jake crowd had gathered from his name. To put his hands up and just filed away unit..
"jaylen" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"Been available in and that that is hurt you. I don't know if this bad luck but what team hasn't had bad luck this year. When you think about injuries and often you give me a team and you know, okay see what they did, sending a portrait home said you know we going to pay, you Thirty million that we need you to go just come to the gym, every two weeks and you know, get on Thursday. Two sides by America is a great freaking country. I tell highest rate, practice player in NBA history. This is this is why I need to say why I disagree with John's blessing, take here. This injury, obviously. Yes, it's an excuse. But the only thing that could have happened to the Celtics. In the playoffs was that they? They could have proven me wrong. I already believed that they were that they were toast. So I don't really need an additional excuse. For them to lose in the playoffs, or in the plan already thought they were going to. The only thing they could have done was proven me wrong. Improving, in my opinion. Most fans wrong would probably don't didn't believe in them at this point. Anyways, so you know what? Maybe now they are fully healthy and we can see what they do here. Maybe we're okay with bring back, the whole band and and see if they can put a healthy season together. Now, you don't know, now, you're right off to go quietly into the night and you hope that Jaylen Brown makes a full recovery. I'm sure that he will, I don't know how it changes their offseason plans if they had any with him. And now you pretty much say, like you said, John, well that's that's that's a good excuse for I guess like the final like years from now. We'll look back in that season. I go. Well, they lost you in the ground yet. They didn't make the playoffs..
Doncic Ejected in Mavericks' 124-97 Victory Over Cavaliers
"Tim Hardaway junior poured in twenty five points and Josh Richardson added twenty is the Mavericks blue by the Cavaliers won twenty four ninety seven it was an easy win for Dallas despite Luka Dodge who received a flagrant two foul and an automatic ejection early in the third quarter for hitting Collin Sexton in the groin area dot should finish with fifteen points in twenty two minutes and Jaylen Brunson had thirteen points and seven assists in the maps for straight win Dallas extended its lead to a game over Portland in the battle for fifth place in the Western Conference I'm Dave Ferrie
McCollum powers Trail Blazers past Celtics 129-119
"CJ McCollum and Damian Lillard carried the trailblazers to a one twenty nine one nineteen win in a back and forth game against the Celtics McCollum led the way with thirty three points while Miller chipped in twenty six and thirteen assists to help Portland win its fourth straight I think our minds have been locked in I think we've been sharp we've been together it has been like a long whatever it takes mentality fresh off tying Larry Bird single game franchise record of sixty points for Celtic star Jayson Tatum had thirty three points but just nine after halftime Jaylen brown added sixteen points Tatum and brown both exited the game in the final minute with ankle and foot injuries respectively get some Coolbaugh Boston
"jaylen" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"But he's going to play horribly and he didn't, he showed the ability to be a score and a facilitator. I don't think he had that in this game cuz you never really see a lot of that when he was in college and you damn sure didn't see it when you played with wall. But when wall was out of the picture, he showed the ability to be an elite facilitator. If George Washington is open for business for Bill, we gotta have that conversation and Bill and Tatum our boys. So like there's a chance bill could stay here but tourage right. I'll pick it up that phone and let you're talking about Jaylen Brown. I mean that say they had to pick up the phone. I said, we had to have the conversation. You already know who's got to pick up the damn phone. So you're willing to give up one of those guys. I'm willing to suck. Talk about what is it going to take? Because to me if they said, well, if you just give us like, you know, Grant Williams Time Lord and a couple of bag of chips. Hell yeah. If we're talking about Jalen, we gotta think about that. We gotta look and see what else is out there. What is there to think about Daylin, man? That's the thing you're going to have. I'm asking for Jalen and then so like Jeff that's my job, if it's Jaylen. That's one thing. When it's, what else am I going to have to put into the pot for that deal to happen? That's what my concern comes from. The first round, pick this year and I'm done. We're good Washington. I'm going to be ridiculously greedy, ridiculously go on throwing, in Robert Williams and feel like he's just like a little rock. Like a god, like the garden just feels. He's not, he's not Bill Russell. What is he? I want to be a styrofoam. Full season, so I can find out if he is even laws. Is he know, going to that question for you. I can tell you right now, he is not Ben Wallace. Thank you. But maybe, maybe she's a baby Rudy gobert. We gotta find out. We got your not Rudy gobert. I watched enough trunk or off, or just wait. What else you got? What else, what do you mean? He's one of those guys. Like, it's too soon. Guys, I'm telling you, we got to see this thing through. He hasn't even had a full season of Summer. One thing, maybe you can disguise one thing that's nothing to do with the other. You might be able to trade one of those guys, but you also might need a new coach. And I'm not, I'm I'm with you on the page again. I think people have a hard time wrapping their minds around the Nuance of the discussion. Brad can be an excellent coach, might not be the right coach for this team. Both those things can be true. It's not that complex. I'm sorry that disclaimer at that point it might be the case cuz what again you keep pointing to things which is like failure to do literally anything that the coach asks, he goes out. He says turnovers man, they're killing us. We gotta take better care of the ball and they come off of a time out, or they start the second half tonight, and the first thing they do is turn the ball over. Its Absolute Total, disregard for anything, odd ball moving, we gotta move the ball, we gotta Pace it, he's screaming, run on the sidelines and they won't run like. They literally just don't do the things he wants them to do, and it's do you get disappointing, but it's, it's it's the truth. So what do you do with the sequence? Where I felt like the Oklahoma City Thunder were playing, the Celtics offensive game where they just run up the court and jack up at 3 and the subject never looked more comfortable..
Oklahoma City Thunder Embarrass Boston Celtics
"Special guest tonight, tonight is Jeff Goodman. And before we get to his latest zesti, take on Joe Brown which we will a little bit later in the show. We just want to welcome him to the Garden report. Post game show and Jeff will give you first bite at the Apple. It's I don't know how many times we're going to say worst loss ever because it feels like we've said it a lot. It's hard to not bother. It's hard to not tell this the worst loss ever. This is so this Jeff they work. They were atrocious and embarrassment but I don't listen, I don't care that Jayson. Tatum and Kemba Walker didn't play. I do care because I think Jason should have been out there. I don't know how bad the injury is, or whatever, is dealing with public. And it came like this, you gotta be out there. This is what 11/12 games left in the regular season. You needed this win, you could ill afford a loss like this, but even without Tatum and Kemba last name. They were without shade gilgeous-alexander, and they stink, they absolutely stink. They're trying to tank they've got a garbage team other than Lou door and you lost. You had supposedly Dead one of the top 25 players in the NBA in jail and Brad. I thought, Oh, supposedly. And it starts now, you mean using all subjects, you mean you're not lose. That's the supposedly Factor know. It's, it's true. Jeff look. I think they rolled the dice on Tatum thinking we could get away with tonight and still squash out the window. And so we needed to give him a day off. Let's pick the game and they pick this one on the back to back on the front, end of a back-to-back, and it burned him obviously. And I don't think he's, I don't think he's hurt but I mean, I get it doesn't matter. Like I watched this whole game, I've not watched to Oklahoma City games this year, I still can't name a player on their team
Graham scores 24 as Hornets rout Celtics 125-104
"The Hornets had four players score at least twenty points in a one twenty five one oh for dismantling of the Celtics the Vontae Graham had twenty four points and nine assists with omega shows about a dozen I mean I played bad or whatever the case may be so you got to look at all the little things that our team win PJ Washington chipped in with twenty two points and twelve rebounds helping Charlotte pull within one and a half games of Boston for the sixth seed in the east Terry Rozier had twenty one points and eleven assists and miles bridges stayed hot with twenty points the Hornets came in hitting ten of their first twelve shots including six of seven from three point range to build a twenty six twelve lead Kemba Walker Jaylen brown had twenty points for the Celtics who shot just thirty nine percent I'm Dave Ferrie
Jaylen Brown Scores 40, Celtics Beat Lakers 121-113
"Jaylen brown scored forty points and the Celtics held off a late Lakers rallied to win their fifth straight one twenty one to one thirteen brown made seventeen of twenty shots and ended up two point shy of his career high so the collector's mess up as a as a matter of that no his name address so regardless of who's on the court I'm excited to play not energy having a like a sense back into an arena we just want the commander went but it was nearly an embarrassing finished for the Celtics as they saw their twenty seven point fourth quarter lead cut to just five in the final minute but brown made two baskets to help secure the win I am mark Myers
An Undermanned Lakers Leads to a 40 Point Score For Jaylen Brown
"Well and and tonight heading in the Celtics were a six-point favorite according to oddsshark in terms of where they would come out and they and they certainly covered there. They wanted the game bike game. Eight. So if you pick the Celtics in this one that I guess you came out on top of it, but the Celtics came in as the favorite we thought the Celtics would win this game and they really came out firing. I mean the big problem was Jaylen Brown through most of the of the night. I mean we finish up with 40 points. He's the guy they turned to when when things start to get close in the fourth, he came back and scored a couple of buckets and I look at this as as two things off for one. Jaylen Brown is is just a good player. But the second thing is the Lakers just didn't have anybody to put on him. I mean the the guys you would probably turns you would include Anthony Davis LeBron James Markieff Morris all of them sidelined and then you don't even have Andre Drummond to meet him at The Rim when he's driving and he took advantage of I mean credit to Jaylen brown, but I think a lot of this game was just sick of how many guys the Lakers have out injured right now.
Boston bullies: Celtics' 31-3 run ends Nuggets' win streak
"The nuggets eight game winning streak is over after a one oh five eighty seven loss to the Celtics Denver took a seventy nine sixty five lead on a three pointer late in the third quarter the Boston immediately went on a thirty one three run and allowed just five more points after that Jayson Tatum and Jaylen brown of the Celtics attack after both were questionable to play Tatum says the second half run keyed the victory it was a big but you know there's a group in the third and kind of start the fourth Kickstarter that run and then we so then we got carried off from there Tatum finished with twenty eight points and brown had twenty as Boston won for the fifth time in six games Michael Porter junior led the nuggets with twenty points despite missing eleven of twelve from three point range I'm Dave Ferrie
Celtics Team Shows Promise After Hard Win Against the Denver Nuggets
"We're talking about guys who played well we're not talking just about Tatum. We're not talking just about Jaylen Brown we're talking about some of those other guys are on the side who for the most part have not made an impact in this game Grant Williams. I mean only five points was a plus 23 and for once that was not a misleading stat when you look at how he was able to defend jokic how he was able to make a hustle plays like the one that we're just talking about where that wound up with Romeo wage. I filed at making a couple of free throws. You start going down this roster be on your big to of Tatum and brown and UC player after player after player making a contribution and gave me the one thing that it all says is that this team finally finally finally decided to fight they finally decided to fight but when games instead of, Georgia, Letting things play out the way they were they fought to be aware. Not just assuming it's going to happen. So
Brown and Smart Help Celtics Secure Crucial Win Over Knicks
"Marcus Smart did a great job of facilitating no usual wait for that to ride. To wait for what? I'm just kidding. I think I think like one shot taking going into the four for something like that. It was clearly looking to get other guys involved in dog stepped up Jaylen Brown did with Jaylen Brown tends to do and our fifth starter Romeo Langford. He had some nice plays down the stretch too good rebates. Yeah. I thought it was a good win for them. Not as a great way. I thought it was a good win. It wasn't a great well played game but I thought it was a good win that they needed bad game Goodwin and
Embiid scores 35, 76ers dominate Celtics in 106-96 win
"Jo Ellan beat foiled the Celtics again to help the seventy Sixers are in a season series sweep of A. one oh six ninety six wins and beat had a game high thirty five points on the heels of his forty two and thirty eight point outings respectively in back to back wins over the Celtics in January a twenty eleven Sixers run to close the first half proved to be the turning point in Philadelphia seven to win in ten games Jayson Tatum scored twenty and Jaylen brown seventeen for Boston as the teetering Celtics fell back under five hundred at twenty five and twenty six I'm guessing Coolbaugh
Doncic's 31 points pace Mavs over NBA-leading Jazz 111-103
"Look at dodges scored thirty one points and Dorian Finney Smith added a season high twenty three is the maverick stop Utah's nine game winning streak one eleven one oh three Jaylen Brunson scored twenty points for the mavs led by as many as eighteen in their season high fifth win in a row Dallas won for the first time in three games versus Utah this season despite Kristaps porzingis the Mavericks number two scorer leading rebounder sitting out with a sprained right wrist Mike Conley scored twenty eight points to lead the jazz who fell to an NBA best thirty eight and twelve I'm Dave Ferrie
To the bank! Suggs hits the winner, Zags top UCLA 93-90
"It it will will go go down down as as one one of of the the greatest greatest shots shots in in final final four four history history Zach Zach is is Jaylen Jaylen soldes soldes banked banked in in Americal Americal three three at at the the buzzer buzzer giving giving the the Bulldogs Bulldogs a a ninety ninety three three to to ninety ninety overtime overtime win win over over UCLA UCLA it it was was nice nice and and I I still still can't can't speak speak I I mean mean I I don't don't I I I I just just can't can't believe believe that that happened happened I I don't don't think think it's it's really really going going to to hit hit me me you you know know until until I I wake wake up up tomorrow tomorrow but but I I mean mean it it did did tonight tonight tonight tonight especially especially through through Timmy Timmy scored scored twenty twenty five five points points to to lead lead the the zags zags Johnny Johnny Jews Jews and and finished finished with with twenty twenty nine nine to to top top the the Bruins Bruins the the wind wind sends sends thirty thirty one one and and can can sack sack into into Monday's Monday's national national championship championship game game against against Baylor Baylor I I am am mark mark Myers Myers
Doncic guides Mavericks over Knicks
"Look look at at Dodgers Dodgers scored scored twenty twenty six six points points and and the the Mavericks Mavericks are are in in their their third third straight straight win win by by downing downing the the Knicks Knicks ninety ninety nine nine eighty eighty six six somebody's somebody's gonna gonna win win ugly ugly yeah yeah I I mean mean you you got got to to win win ugly ugly I I mean mean that that means means when when things things don't don't go go right right are are you you gonna gonna step step will will be be together together and and win win the the game game the the Mavericks Mavericks were were without without head head coach coach Rick Rick Carlisle Carlisle for for the the game game after after testing testing positive positive for for the the corona corona virus virus the the sixty sixty one one year year old old Carlisle Carlisle says says he he has has been been fully fully vaccinated vaccinated since since January January and and was was hoping hoping it it was was a a false false positive positive Jaylen Jaylen Brunson Brunson had had fifteen fifteen points points for for the the mavs mavs won won more more than than Kristaps Kristaps porzingis porzingis and and Tim Tim Hardaway Hardaway junior junior scored scored against against her her former former team team Alec Alec Burks Burks scored scored twenty twenty points points to to lead lead the the Knicks Knicks who who have have lost lost three three in in a a row row I'm I'm Dave Dave Ferrie Ferrie
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"A lot of a lot of people Brandon Ingram only, you know, I don't really thought each haven't had a Ben Simmons and then who's going to be the third pick it was like well, we're kind of screwed cuz we got the third pick and a two-person draft. Well it may turn out the job. Brown is better than all of them and and frankly, I think this is the point the scouts were making who would you rather have right now a guy who may be great defender off but with a little bit more size but offensively is really really challenged and someone who you can really easily guard game plan against what exactly is a three-level what you can do with a three-level scorer has incredible athleticism and a growing Port sense that allows them to find the open man. I mean, they're it's he's a problem. He is a problem right now, and I don't think I'm take I think I would take I wouldn't take Ben Simmons over Jaylen Brown don't question. Wait what I went to jail the front over been sentenced. Oh, no, I thought you said you would sorry. Thank you. I would not sure. Yeah. No, I would not under any circumstances take Jaylen brown or take Ben Simmons over Jaylen Brown. Yeah. I'm I'm sold out on Ben Simmons to begin with Jaylin is I don't like him and you know what? He's such a great fit for Doc like I guess if there's a conversation here since we've talked about jaylin's so much and he is awesome and Tatum gets so much play. It's okay that we don't talk about them on this episode cuz he's a Phenom but but you know Ben Simmons with Doc is a great fit, but only under one circumstance and Beads gotta be healthy, you know, because if if impede isn't healthy that whole thing falls apart, Yeah, I think well, I don't know. I mean I think part of the problems that Simmons has are that that he's playing with with him being the team player and beat is I honestly I think that's part of the part of the problem, you know, is that I mean, he needs a great player. I'm just not sure that that someone who doesn't really space wage war for him is really the best fit. I mean, I guess what I'm saying is both guys are hurt by the fact that neither one complements The Other Well conversely in Boston, aren't you best player totally complementary? Yeah, you know only willing to pass, you know, I think the growth between Tatum and brown both of them in their ability of as a matter of fact, the early part of the season was like come on Tatum what the hell, you know what I mean brown brown would continue to defer potato wouldn't and off..
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"Was that the First Choice game know it wasn't Detroit game. Yeah. Yeah. Well the first Detroit game where the step back or was it was Indiana, wasn't it? Anyway talking about Jalen. Are you talking about Tatum? I'm talking about they don't talking about. Yeah step back and Seventeen seconds. I was thinking was Indiana. Yeah. Yeah. So, here's the thing, right? So that would there was a whole bunch of issues. There there was you know, it was the ball wasn't moving the whole bunch of stuff and Jaylen really was about the shot. He wasn't getting opportunities. I think that was the one where they went over 10 or one 4:10 in the last four minutes or something else that might have been to Detroit the two were kind of for whatever reason those two games gotta the first Indiana game of the first Detroit game kind of blend in. But anyway General absolutely has to be part of the club situation. Yeah, but to go back to the the mentality thing one thing I would say is I don't think I think you're right in terms of jail and becoming who he is dead. Solutely the Celtics have embraced and and supported his his Endeavors when you do go in a lot of places even a say like Boston that gets real like angsty about stuff sometimes unnecessarily often necessarily, you know, they haven't hasn't been a whole lot of hullabaloo about him going to Harvard or him going to my team and talking about stuff. Thankfully that hasn't happened or him going down to Atlanta and that conversation about whether or not they should play and then being truly begin saying to the entire league if you're not going to make use of this time, we should frigging play and called out probably the most notable player of his wage. No lifetime, absolutely and and I'll be in the first and I think it hasn't been said that outright that he did it, but certainly the home Organized the efforts into my the start the Miami again trying to bring highlight and issues that are they're real and and on front of mine for so many players wage being the leader who can bring that to the tour. So it's the southern Sonata squelching that credit to the Celtics for getting out of the way, but most of all credit Jaylen Brown just say, okay..
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"Point that the point that we're making though is that the importance of the metal approach is so critical and that's what's so I'm afraid he had that's what Larry had time to time to time. To Jaylen Brown, you know for every desk he was this was what you're how quickly everyone has adopted that narrative four-page Pritchard, but a number 3 pick in the draft and Jaylen Brown, it was described as a negative is you know, I don't want to feed into certain narratives, right? But that's a truth. That's a that's a truth in a criticism that came up for brown just in this scenario right in this scenario Brown received criticism almost like he would be distracted by his goals. And I love what Brad Stevens said at the earlier part of the Season about that. You know what I mean? Like he wants more money. That's a good thing right how great this is where I want to go the intellect piece how great is it that the Boston Celtics don't see dead. Jalen's varied interest as a threat to his ability to be successful in the NBA. Thank you organization. Because the reason that I'm just driving right now is because you have not stifled him how many have that narrative coming out of the draft? Have you been drafted by a different team who bought into that potentially would have Bots to that narrative how stifled with Jaylen Brown have been how stifled could he have been and that's yeah. I I just love that they didn't it can't shoot threes bang too distracted. Can't be number one score is one of the most efficient scorers on this team. I mean, I know that everybody wants to make this whole argument between a brown and my son, you know is going to turn 18 in April is kind of yanked me into that. He wants to take the potato, but I'm like dude. I love them both. You know I suck. Prior to the draft they were my first choices, you know and didn't think we would get either one of them for various different reasons. And but if you go back and listen to this show, you'll know that in January Tatum was the one I wanted now because I said folks was the pick and had to be the pic but man there was a part of me that just wishes it would have wound up being Tatum and there it happened, you know, and then go back and I want to Brown so I'm not buying it. I'm not going to I'm not going to feed into the pinion pitting them against each other, but I told my son Jaylen Brown to this point in the season just thought most efficient. He's like, yeah, but you want the ball and Tatum's hands at the end of the game. Like listen, man. They all feed off of each other. And yes Tatum is definitely my primary option, but don't get it twisted dish. The ball should be in Browns hands at the end of games and they will benefit the both of them if it is and he's got it in him to do it and he absolutely does fight through doubles wage. The way he is working that mid-range came to set everything else up good for you young man good for you. So yeah, totally agree on much of that Jalen. I mean, I think which game was what was the game that they lost with the the other three?.
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"You know, Kevin wouldn't going to throw nobody any Kudos as a young player Oh org their way. And so I'm not saying that Marcus is going to treat rookies the same way that Kevin did but he is not going to be throwing out praise to a young life cuz he knows his wrong. That's not yeah, that's right. Marcus is off is only to give that praise when it's due and and and even to say, hey looks all right, no though, and and I'll point to another thing when they did the pre-game interview with Brad. I can't remember which game it was they were talking about. You know, Peyton's, you know, first decent performance was a game to maybe but anyway, he had stepped out of bounds, right and Brad's like I you know jokes, you know, you doing pretty good but you know, you gotta stay involved or something like that and it's like the fact that he's joking about that too says a lot about their trust in not as not dead. Trust their understanding of his confidence because a coach says something like that to a young rookie who's still feeling not confident not established an awkward, you know, Brad smart enough to know that that could really, you know, put a rick rookie in a funk right even though he's kidding even though he's right, you know that that could put a young player in a funk and that's how much they understand who Payton Pritchard home and I realized, you know, Brad smiled and joked and everything else but Kino's this game is rhythm game and that could have gotten in Peyton's head and they didn't and and I think that's a statement wage. I I think so, I think that this so this is kind of like the next thing in this for me and it's something that I was really more on my mind when things were going well, but but I think it's still an important conversation a question, which is okay. So the so let's have had a lot of draft picks from middle of the first round and I'm not sure. Sure over the last four or five years, right and apart from you know that you know, the the the 16 or well, I'm just like, okay. So yeah Boselli and RJ Hunter James Young those drafts, right?.
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"Still better than ties, you know well as canceling a mix he misses the next three months. Yeah, you know, I think it doesn't work. I think it's a necessity of this point. I really don't know. It was our prediction to I mean, yeah, I remember that's what we thought would happen. I just don't see that one that they have a bench that they can rely on it. I saw it was a little bit against Miami where they when a little bit with Grant and Chevy playing together, which was you know, surprising. Something would probably not going to the season in season. We had those lineups really look at those guys. As an either-or, but you know if you're going to try to get robbed interest in and you know ties minutes, I don't see how else you you really make it happen. Unless you've submitted some overlap with you know, some combination of two out of those three at some point in the in the game. So they're bad lineups. I don't like them. I think in the long run, you know, they're not going to work that well, but I also you know, you also kind of wonder when you get to the playoffs, you know, and you're playing against big teams. It's certainly I think work well against my life. You're not Miami but a little gets whiny but but certainly against Milwaukee and you play La you gotta be prepared for these big lineups and will it work, you know wage isn't a them guarding, you know, LeBron. Do you want Jayson Tatum guarding, you know Anthony Davis that's that's really questionable. I think. Yeah, it's a good player. That seems to be the bad player. I'm just saying you want him having to basically be your best player scoring and your guy who's defending their guy who's a lot stronger and bigger. I that's that's why I think playing that makes some sense and gain some comfort with that early in the season wage. But you know, I don't know. I mean you could you go smoking to get away with Grant and that spot. I mean gray has looked better of late for at least since I think the 2nd was the second Detroit game, or maybe it was the Toronto game. We started to come out of that shell a little bit. He really had a rough start started. Look good. Chevys looked really good, right? Yeah. Just that was like The Logical next comment coming on the heels of that off, you know show me had a really good outing in the near kind of an ugly one and he's been great again ever since then. I can't remember the ugly one was, you know in between us first like hey, I think he's getting it which is real. Surprising to me because I don't want to say it was a lost cause but I definitely thought it was a lost in the shuffle that that's worked out. This was good though. Yeah, and and you look at you know the draft off and you look at Naismith and you say to yourself. Well, that's kind of the writing on the wall. They got to develop that guy and you and I talked about that but and what a great rebounder though, seriously great at boxing out but his shot wasn't falling yet and get oh guess who's is?.
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"I'm Justin. He's John and we're here to talk about well better things since the last time we talked John Celtics are on a roll. Play Rolling baby and raise what I mean we were where we were, you know, last time who was things were weren't real rough, you know, but, you know, you, you know, run off three wins and now you're sitting at 6 and 3, you know, and you're you know, just a game and a half back of first-place. Although Philly just one and I am Phillies playing tonight against against the good old Nets. So that's wearing their old their old Unis tonight, which is kind of fun that game still going on. But anyway, yeah, so yeah, okay and a half back and you know, we'll see who would have thought who'da thought couldn't quit this start have gone any better, you know them all things. Yeah. Yes, they could be destroyed. They could have made Detroit. That's the one loss. No, I agree. I agree like honestly know you're going to lose games like that, but dog. First lost to Detroit unnecessary, but outside of that you're absolutely right. I don't think so tough tough start to the season definitely playing some of the top-tier teams. And if you're asking if the season could have gone to a better start in reference to the Nets. No way dude. No way. I realized we lost to him but I just I I can see this one coming a mile away. Yeah, I mean I I think in terms of record, I mean I I was anticipated 500. Honestly. I was anticipating I you know, just some really rough games. It's just times when you just don't have it that night, you know what I mean? And so much is is on the backs of Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown that I thought. Well, you know, I mean look you got a really tough schedule really really tough. I mean, I don't think we really talked enough in the budget shortest offseason absolutely wrong, you know, and and you're who you're playing is just insane and and then you're you're on the road so much and all this. I mean just it seemed like it was a it was a recipe for like I said a 500 start a lot of finger-pointing a lot of questions of you know, why isn't Grant Williams doing this and why isn't you know when some doing that we do Thursday? So we have to talk about it though grants gotta be in the starting lineup right like this Tice this dist ice and Thompson thing isn't providing enough spacing and I'm not saying that grants a lights-out 3-point shooter as evidenced by this time last year, but.
"jaylen" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"Going to go when you are a player like like a brown and I feel like you know, I'm so much more akin to him. Is that everybody is damn right. Now, this is Jayson Tatum steam when in fact you see brown the way he's playing he is probably having so far a better year the question. He's been exceptional in in the way. He's developed as a player. So I just I love the fact that they seem to like each other and they seem to be buddies. They seem to be wish I asked the in the Sundance key. They seem to be Batman and Robin and you know, everybody said I had a friend of mine one day saying that about you know, Batman and Robin you said man Batman, you know gets all of us off. They say you know what Robin had a hell of a gig he had one nail. But yeah, and I think that's the same way. I look at Jalen right now. In fact, he has a a great gig she doesn't have the pressure. So I think that's a really good thing. He also doesn't seem to care to be Batman. You know, I think that we talked about this with a Sherrod Blakely a couple of shows ago. He wants to be that guy. I mean everyone wants to be that guy but he cares more about being that guy off the floor with regard to everything that we talked about off the top of the show and making the world a better place when it comes to basketball which is still absolutely a priority Germany continues to Excel and grow every single offseason throughout these years. He doesn't mind being Robin and letting Jason be Batman. He's he's not fighting City Hall and that's that always try to tell people that when you are when when I got Larry Bird coming in I could have been tried to be disruptive and try to say oh, this is I'm averaging twenty almost wage. Once again, I'm not trying to hear this but if you are smart about the game, you understand that you utilize everything in the game when Larry Bird came in now there was a proving Point may prove Proclaim when I play with him. I remember, you know him walking in the first game and I was sitting up on that those engine up there and I'm thinking yeah Great White Hope we go. Yeah, but after that practice, I walked up to the first black person that could see and going you know, what white guy can play off and use that as like fuel. Okay. Well, I'm going to use him to get where I have to be they're going to be opportunities for me and I think jail and sees the same thing that you know, they're going to be opportunities for me. Jason is the one that's getting the headlines. But you know again if you are the guy kind of sitting back a little bit it's not as much pressure off or you because you the expectation level is now the superstars. This is the as strong Randy likes to use the ancillary players. It's about superstars. Yeah, it's it's just fun to watch the relationship grow and I made the argument a couple of shows ago that you know, they're going to be points. In the season where again Kayden gets a lot of the attention, you know, both of them and just you know from people on the court in general. He's facing a lot more double teams nowadays and you know trying to find an navigate his way around those has been fun to watch these developing that side of his game. The one that I argued in and I called for basically is your Tatum at some points is going to have to let you know defer to Jaylen Brown and let Jaylen Brown take them under need to go how important is that, you know,.
"jaylen" Discussed on Winning Plays
"I think that was just down the stretch of the the finale AC tried to go there. He couldn't get their wage Jimmy Butler obviously had his moments but was you know kid now with a few different injuries, it seemed like over the course of the game. What to you right now is the biggest difference, uh in that game versus last year. Yeah, I think up a couple of things one. I like Grant Williams did a pretty nice job on vampyr point sure down the stretch their day, you know, you think the Celtics brought in Tristan Thompson to be that guy off, but it's clear at this point. We're screaming Tristan Thompson been a good addition so far, but he's not going to have it every single night and he didn't seem to have it, you know from a defensive standpoint against famine that game so Grant was playing well wage. Grad students kind of roll world of him and that kind of prevented me from taking over that game and I mean beyond that it was nice to see I think Tatum eventually money was won the heavyweight fight with Jimmy Butler in that matchup, like he kind of roasted challenge down the stretch of for that last-minute in terms of setting guys up, you know, the heat were throwing eggs or three guys that I'm really, you know, tighten things up defensively but he made things happen Jaylen Brown on a bad shooting nights still making things happen, you know, twelve rebounds five assists who steals to blocks for him so long like if that's a bad game from Jaylen Brown at this point in the Celtics are in a pretty good spot right now and they are now this is I mean 6 and 3 Rich The Way the season started. I mean it was this is this box case scenario pretty much for giving what this groups had to work with, you know, it's it's crazy you say that but then the same and the same token like they could have 1/2 hour or two or two other of the games right there. Yep. They could be hidden one. Maybe that's the best case scenario, but they could just as easily be you know, four and five or five and four but it's whether or not it's best case scenario. It's a scenario that we will take at the subject take all things considered. We talked a lot about the the the slow starts right the slow start that we that we that we expected and it just not here and at times you've seen it like has been the makings of what could be bigger problems. But you know when it comes down to it more often than not they found a way to get done. And yeah, you said the five assist for me for Jalen in the way he's doing it. It's it's such a young age or we're going to talk about him a little bit more later in terms of his where he stands and sort of the All-Star picture in the Eastern Conference right now, but I just looked last year. I was hoping it was it was fewer, but you know, how many times he had to assist in the game last year?.
"jaylen" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"A lot and now you see how many times has gone into somebody's body gotten them back get the weights on it and the patients and he lays it up in so many of those things in the jumper is just looked so frequent grabs. It rangers beautifully barton believable and the space. He's able to create a gets in the lane and he can just get that little jumper if you want it almost any time. So it's amazing. Though i mean let's think about it he. He's continued to progress his year after year. I mean this is the next step brain. But that's what we talked about. Last year he took two steps in in season. You know one to start the season and then another you know so. He's almost and then we were worried about that right and let let let jimmy jump in here but we were a little worried jimmy. That like not worried but in agreement is getting into the wait a minute. He's gonna go off but the whole season the off season we're talking about. You need tatum. And jaylen to take a big leap with hayward gone and kemba slow in order for this team to get to another level. We were worried that like how much of a leap can they take. They've only had like a month off. You know they're going to be the same guys we saw and again. I don't know what you see after five games here jimmy but you know it looks like jalen has again. Taken another leap. Yeah so i gotta. I gotta apologize for being minutes late. The reason i qualitative game. 'cause jalen brown and sweating bullets sweating the shots. He was hitting new drives the threes. I mean i was drenched so off real quick before i got on before onset here so but listen i mean i- i hinted at this last show last night. I threw it in there towards the end of the show after another. I what i thought was a solid jaylen brown performance. I was like who. And i don't wanna pick these two guys against each other because that's not what it's all about like jon said you need them both. You need them both to be even better than they are now because of what we're seeing from the other twelve guy but i casually said would you rather go to war with. Who would you rather go to war with now. Jalen brown or jayson. Tatum and this is what i said last night. I'm not seeing it now. 'cause he just had a career high night and again i know jason themes going to have his nights to jaylen brown. Just showed me something since the bubble where it's like this guy like checks off almost every box when it comes to leadership intangibles on the court off the court outside shot skill. He's improved his ball. Handling his defense has been sm- more you know about average has been great He can play multiple positions right. I mean and that's not again. It's not a slight jason tatum..
"jaylen" Discussed on 1075 KZL
"I'm not fearing it okay just not feeling it today I need a pep talk need a pep talk to you're going to get up you can make it trend and you're gonna get in that car now what is your mind snake my what is your body will forte what is your coverage now the going to plug up your courage walk out that door and have an incredible adventure your children in turn Jaylen let us know that she's getting mixed signals from the guy she's seeing in needs our help and your help so in turn a lot of what's going on I was basically friends owned guys your friends friends owned you normally if the female friend I have never even heard of that yeah that friends owns a girl so basically he was like I'm just trying to work on myself I'm really not looking for a relationship right now but I like you my first question is okay are you want to enter where he meant yeah that's a that's a friends with benefits yeah the hook up with you I've not like rent I feel like if you want to hook up and not be fringes say that I think you did yeah yeah yeah maybe not at the beginning which is unfortunately now told you that yeah but it's hard code when you're really yes it is I think I don't know I just like I was friends owned like just I guarantee if you went out and be like Hey you want just come over late tonight and hook up and then leave he would come over and hook up and lay yeah as a friend I have any friend what's right as a woman who's getting it because the first what you madam on tender so you think you're on the dating app maybe you're open to the idea and that's true yeah then you our hanging out and yanked staying and going on day right and so then when the behavior changes and then all of a sudden I have to work on myself yeah this would ship the thrill all right so in whatever couple answering so have you guys been physical yes okay there's been some heavy petting okay all right but not all the way through but not all the way okay what yeah what what what day everyone's bases are and they are definitely yeah you gotta define him has been hand C. up top yes has he been down below yes that's third base.
"jaylen" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Alabama star Jaylen hurts was named the Oklahoma starting quarterback you knew that was going to happen they were just wasn't Lincoln Riley just playing possum I think so I think so Ezekiel Elliott is unhappy with Jerry Jones is a recent Z. Cujo yeah it was a total joke who's not happy with it it was easy it was a tiny well I think everyone's playing it up with these hold out it was not amused by a Jones is Z. quip and thought it was disrespectful the cowboys running backs agent told ESPN's Chris Mortensen I don't think it was funny neither did sick we actually thought it was disrespectful Saddam he even said that rocky are silent show Keegan being cute our snow said Elliot continues his contract hold out while training in combo San Lucas he's going to get paid though aren't they eventually and I have all of the guys holding out I believe Zeke is the one most likely to get paid I don't and he plays a bigger role in their offense I believe than Gordon does for the Chargers yes find out on a somber note something that will carmine Freddie talked with Thomas Jones about former Texas a and bears running back Cedric Benson died at the age of thirty six this weekend law enforcement mention that Benson was killed in a motorcycle crash Saturday nights that's it still holds the second most career rushing yards in Texas longhorn history and had an eight year NFL career obviously here in Chicago with the bears then the bangles in the pack I always remember to the Bengals game when the bangles beat the bears and Bentsen got revenge running yeah that good year the rush for over a thousand yards that you're with the Bengals but the one thing that all the bears said like peanut tell men send something out a Briggs send something out that he always got along with him they all a lot of them especially the Texas players the guys who grew up in Texas all mention just he was one of the most prolific high school taxes players however I believe he played for the Midland school that was featured for Friday night lights you know what the book was out I think Midland Lee years something like that with the book was written about that not obviously years later right but but I think it's the same school a desk in Odessa Permian is there is also one of the yeah a lot of big school the all the former players who knew him said that they first saw him play in Texas high school and he was just on see what I think three state championships tale yeah he went to Robert E. Lee high school in Midland Texas right nice that's a it's a tremendous high school career listen he was a tremendous college football players well yes so too young thirty six is where young way too young I agent says in that age would be drew Rosenhaus says that Antonio brown tell the concern is a safety issue to rose and house was on get up this morning after Rangers GM Mike may ox said yesterday the brown and left camp again over the helmet issue it was time called him to be all in our all while you any here may I kiss your body Mike may I ask you all know the date.