4 Burst results for "Jay Williams Max Kellerman"

"jay williams max kellerman" Discussed on First Take

First Take

10:26 min | 8 months ago

"jay williams max kellerman" Discussed on First Take

"All Right Gentlemen Jay Williams joining us now. Last night we saw very emotional Michael Jordan. We saw how much the game meant to him. His competitiveness in how he was trying to elevate everyone around him ultimately even if people didn't agree with his tactics always Stephen. I'll ask you this based on what we saw last night. Would you rather play with Michael Jordan or Lebron James as your teammate? In their prime I am not dancing around this like Fred astaire or Michael Jackson. Got Knowing anything like that but there is only one answer this and guess what it is that depends on who you are. If I'm Kevin Durant okay. I WanNa play with liberal. If I'm Kyle Korver I WANNA play with Jay Z. I mean if you are an Alpha male if you are in a leap ballaugh who considered yourself a number one option you with Jordan is going to be a clash you. Lebron James Lebron is going to be receptive to giving you the ball. Take some tough on something such but if you are a considerable number two or lower than Lebron is your. I'm sorry I'm sorry Matt Michael Jordan is your God because he's the Clinton number one so you have absolutely no problem whatsoever being secondary and being treated like the secondary. But if you think there's a number one and your soul and your abilities in the core of who you are and you and you're not deferential you don't WanNa play with Michael Jordan you WanNa play Lebron James. That's the answer. Depends on a couple of things first of all on the prentice that you're trying to win a championship. That's got to be the most important thing to you okay. So let's start with that. Then what kind of who you want. Is the team loaded if the team is loaded? You're trying to win a championship. Go with Michael Jordan. Because he will not let you lose if the team is not very stack you might want to go with the broncos. He could do more with less even if he doesn't take you over the top. What kind of personality do you have or does this player has does this player? Just want win and be around for that and do one very specific job. Let's say that's for Jordan but if you're the type of personality says to Hell with that I could take the last shot. I WanNa be the reason we win. Then it's Lebron. Lebron is not the guy who throughout his career has wanted to take the last shot all the time. It's Stephen. Hey you brought this up. Because he's not a great free throw shooter. There have been many worse. But he's not a great free throw shooter. Jordan was an excellent free. Throw shooter and so the way the NBA is organized. Like that guy. Maybe wants a little help. So enter dwayne Wade later. Kyrie Irving but if you even believe it's not the Jordan. Never Pass to a guy who could shoot in the Clutch? If you're the type of person who believes you can make a major contribution to a team who the type of guy could take last shot. You'd rather play with Lebron. You're more likely to get Max is really got Stephen. A I got a little bit confused. Max what was your main point again. Depends what kind of person you are. You WanNa take the last shot. Yes or no okay so like all right so. I just got a little bit confused there for a second so I agree with everybody. And it's even actually. I applaud your. Actually I swear it that your go with Jordan way by like how practical you're thinking by now I appreciate that because here's also some Nathan factor in and you you alluded to this if you're a big time shooter. The amount of pressure that is because if you're playing with Jordan in his prime you're going to be an. You're going to be in the triangle offense and somebody who's played this offense. There's somebody tell you something that people should think about okay. Thirty three cuts were every pass. Thirty three cuts every pass. So by the time the ball if your guard dominant person if the balls in my hands like I'm used to going all and ours. I'm used to push the ball down transition. I don't know if I want to play in the triangle. Right the tangled takes the ball out of my hands. It put the ball in the hands of a big time wing or big time center pinch posts or down the Block III. Kobe the Bra I mean Kobe and Shaq. And then you have inject okay but if you're a guard and Alexa ball in his hands he wants to play in the past symbol of style system. You'RE GONNA WANNA play Lebron because it ability share the rock so I agree with both of you guys which I was surprised depends upon a style player in which you have but I will tell you. See that triangle offense the ability like it takes a special type of player to not have touches out the course of the game and then Michael Jordan get double team to all of a sudden. Kick that ball out to you and say that's your six or seven touch game or seven shot of a game just to be ready to deliver. That would not being in the rhythm of offense that takes a special type of player. A lot of guys are buying players. They need buying touches buying their lather now. A lot of guys are built that way the one thing that I think that I need J. Definitely want to come to you back to you with this because I think it needs to be said about Lebron James and this is not a negative in any way this is just a reality check and it has a lot to do a why. Kyri wanted to leave. Cleveland see Lebron is a basketball savant and he holds the ball because he's usually creating mismatches. He literally dribbles up to court and he looks for whatever mismatch he could create play to play. He's that brilliant of a floor general and because of that what happens is you might have guys that. Don't want to wait around for Lebron to make decision as to what the best play is GonNa be. Some dudes are Lee and they just WanNa ball and bus show you know what and they don't WanNa wait for mismatches to create created. That's what Lebron James does exceptionally well. But it's also the kind of thing that could turn someone off who views themselves as a number one. And I think we'd be. Remiss neglecting mentioned Salena Irving were in the triangle. He will be even more frustrated with that system than might be with the least wedding around for the Broncos so he doesn't have the ball in his hands at O. J. I think I don't think that's right to assume that plane with Jordan means playing in the triangle. Michael Jordan's game transports to travel to any era. And he'll be the best in any. Masekela winning chance. Sorts of maxine element you said winning championships. Yeah Jordan one champions playing what offense. He won championship. What's fine but it's not. As that happens to be the offense. He played he could have wanted any offense. Michael Jordan shot when he started taking the three because the league changed even a little bit. He got a little older. He hit forty three percent of threes. One year thirty seven percent another other year. If Jordan were coming up in this era he'd be better than a forty percent three point. Shooter Probably Certainly High Thirties. At least if you look at Jordan at his best thirty to eight in a league that didn't allow for that eight assists the game. If you look at what James Harden's doing put that on steroids. You'll get Michael Jordan so playing with Jordan. It's not like he only could have won championships in triangle he could have won championships. And any offense. I I don't know if he could win championships in any offense I mean he had maybe the greatest coach of all time. Max Reiss Merge Phil Jackson and I want you guys up there Phil Jackson. I know he was one of the greatest coaches. I mean one of the greatest player of all time. You guys both opinions. And that's fine but you can't overlook the system in which I mean Wolf Phil Jackson and Tex winters with that sad don't that actually helped him win championships and the wreckage hold on. Hold on back Max for the record J I don't I believe that if Jordan had played with Doug Collins who I believe to be an exceptional coach I think Doug Collins was so wired and he was so committed to Michael that I think Jerry. Krause made the right decision and putting fill in that mix because I don't know if Jordan would've ever beat the Pistons Playing Colin Stoller play. Thank you thank you Steven and also and also I disagree because maybe not with Doug Collins. Maybe with other coaches if look at Tex. Winter bringing the Triangle Phil Jackson which reminded fill the way. The Knicks played in the in the early seventies right. It's like team oriented in that era given those rules. But if you look at Jordan's game what did he do that? Would that would be would go to any era. He could shoot it when he started really from outside his minions like the best ever his three point play team defense. It's not one player is not GonNa win the way to move the ball movement of the body movement and try go off guys you to defend more than you would have to if he will play for Doug Collins and that system of course but Michael Jordan would have won multiple championships playing for many coaches by every coach. But many coaches given this right supporting while Rod and J. Jordan playing the triangle because that was the collins. Max All. I'm saying to you Max that you can't just throw out a blade. Common like Michael Jordan want multiple championships. What do you have multiple scoring tile sewer where you're not sure? Every coach would've been able to put him in the right scheme and also give Jerry Krause some credit to getting Toni. Kukoc Getting Scottie. Pippen like a lot of things need to fall directly into your favor in order for the perfect storm to happen and it did bring is it did happen so don't look just like any team. Lebron James can win multiple championships with different cultures and different styles but Michael Jordan needed. Fill in the triangle to get championships. You disagree you squad Michael Jordan up. He's GonNa Win Championships with kinds of Phil Jackson. It just helped them which that system helped him drastically with US folks at home sixty two percent say they would rather play with 'em j by the way you want more of us. Guess what. Today's your Lucky Day. I take extra three thirty eastern on. Espn every day. Starting to day for Jay Williams Max Kellerman Stephen a Smith. I'm Ali rose to buy thank you for being with us..

Matt Michael Jordan Lebron James Lebron Lebron James Jordan Phil Jackson Stephen Michael Jackson Jerry Krause Doug Collins Max Reiss broncos Salena Irving Kevin Durant J. Jordan Kyle Korver Jay Williams Fred astaire US dwayne Wade Alexa
"jay williams max kellerman" Discussed on First Take

First Take

01:33 min | 9 months ago

"jay williams max kellerman" Discussed on First Take

"Hey I'm only Karen rose and you are listening to the first take podcast when it comes to insurance state FARM IS THE REAL DEAL. They give it to you straight. No Games no gimmicks just guidance you can count on. They fit seamlessly interior. Your Life Easily Monitor coverage pay your bill and even file a claim with their act which was awarded Best Insurance Mobile App Twenty. Nineteen they really get to know you. Thanks to a network of nineteen thousand agents your local to talk you through the options that fit your personal needs versus generic policy. Get The insurance. You deserve get state farm like a good neighbor state farm. Is there GEICO or find an agent at state farm dot com as when a crazy exciting journey for me and my family? A lot of opportunities came but you know the ultimate goal is to get to the NBA. Yeah so with that being said I decided to partner with the NBA seen through these players. How about it? Let's get it what's going on everybody? Welcome into I take crude up as always the one and only Stephen Jay Williams Max Kellerman. I'm Molly Karen Rose guys and you just heard. Espn's number one basketball recruit jalen green. He's cashing in. He's not playing around. Could this potentially be a trend? Let's get into it. He was telling Yahoos Kris Haines. He's foregoing the traditional. Ncwa college route instead be joined the G. League the NBA's Developmental League next season the reshaped NBA professional pathway programs the G. League initiative. That will pay a leap prospect five hundred K. Plus in.

"jay williams max kellerman" Discussed on First Take

First Take

09:33 min | 1 year ago

"jay williams max kellerman" Discussed on First Take

"Zion's debut with the Pelicans plus ally manning is retiring so the giants in a better place with Daniel Jones and andy reader. Patrick Mahomes who benefits more more from a chief Super Bowl win. Let's call it on everybody. Welcome into I take. Thank you for hanging with US Stephen. A Smith Jay Williams Max Kellerman. I'm taking good all right. Let's get it. The number one overall Pick Zion Williamson made his much anticipated. Debut as the Pelicans closer the spurs what was a four point loss for New Orleans. Zion had twenty two points most NBA debut in Pelicans history passing a D.. In Two thousand twelve he also became the first player in NBA history with twenty points seven rebounds and four threes and under twenty minutes. Serious everything agenda except for the losing part Just the energy to crowd ball The energy of the city Bra on there was a lecture again. I'm just grateful that they did that. You had not hit four threes in a game in college. You're in the zone. I guess so when I'm just say when you're not able to move around do athletic movements for awhile. Shoot spot of Jumpers. I guess that was a result of that encouraging to see him do that. Max where you impressed by his performance overall I was blown away and let me tell you why athletically clear he clearly was not the same right. The Guy we saw in college athletically had an explosiveness. I didn't see yesterday. pertile blocks shot that we gets the rebound he puts it back in. But that wasn't Zay Dianne Williamson so then the question is what do you do when that happens. What do you do when they packed the paint and they dare you shoot like what do you go into the teeth of the defense? When you really clearly not physically all the way back to prove to guys like Stephen a Smith that you can or do you take what the defense gives you you understand the patience nations and wisdom of one year old with that kind of ability and hype proved the kind of game? He did not just that he's willing passer. He has that Lebron James Snap across the court type passing ability and he's willing passer and he has a high end high basketball. IQ How about the fact that Oh dear shoot but let me tell you what four threes in the fourth quarter of a close game means it means more than anything. You're calm under pressure. I don't even think it's about the repetition including I think the moments too big for him. He's common oh you're going to give you the shot. He didn't rush. It gathered himself. shot the ball seventeen points in eighteen minutes. Sorry twenty two points altogether seventeen consecutive points. When he came out of the game game it was a one score game if he stays in? I think they win the game. That was an awesome debut by I heard Jay Williams looking for. It's not been trying to find you. Listen I had a few doctors appointments at Mit chug myself out the hard to be. Well you can come to work every day ready to roll. Are you looking for before because let me be very. Let me be very very clear. He's he's listen. Let me explain. Let Me Explain Zion. Williamson is Columbia superstar. We all know this is what we believe. And I'm not sitting here saying that. He had a bad bad night or anything like that. That's not what we were going to hurt. Jay would look for me. We mean he was good. He won't great. Are you crazy match. You actually explain why you've got people sitting out there. Let him shoot a set shot to what have you because you WANNA keep that. Mammoth of a young man pay. I get all of that. I wasn't looking looking for that from Zion. It's nice to see but as far as I'm concerned dammit spurs look like they were playing the sometimes. It was almost like that black. This does shoot and set shots until he got hurt. The Tony got healthy. I mean that's how it looked at the top in terms of him launching a shot. I'm not judging by that. What I was looking for was his activity? His movement without the ball how healthy you all have any questions about his gate. I totally believe this guy is going to be great but when they said he was ready to doc because if you remember the initial prognosis of his injury was that he was going to be out six to eight weeks so if this were six weeks or eight weeks right and I don't know exactly. How much time has he been out now? But what I'm saying is that it was significantly longer than we had originally expected and anticipated so in light of that had he come back six to eight weeks and he looked like that that would have been different because he's been out so long total and over forty games might mindset was brother In terms of health wise. He's a hundred percent so I'm not looking for you. Know what he's going to make a set shot. I'm looking at his activity How he's moving without the ball how healthy he looks the spring in his step which I saw which I thought for a moment to moment? Yeah I was in no way. That wasn't no way judging his game because everything that I saw last night outside of the four three point is given credit for that. I mean I'm just looking for the activity. See how healthy is. That's all I was looking for. There was nothing about his game that I was concerned about. What's wrong with that Sometimes you really frustrates me so well. The first man's Miss Three and a half to four months of playing basketball right playing basketball Stephen. Even Hey basketball basketball shakes up the phone. My it's not just the things that get back it's up and down constantly. You run over three and a half miles per game for a guy weighs two hundred eighty five pounds twenty two points seven rebounds and eighteen minutes per forty eight minutes has fifty nine points and twenty rebounds. No that's you looking at it all wrong. I'm looking at the ability to play those minutes and I'm not saying I expected that. Who who say Tonio Spurs Steven Great Public One of the greatest coaches of all time? Absolutely could you. Could you confirm that. The Scott the report on the guidelines Zion Williamson. Let him play his weaknesses. Right sure how to do so. One of his weaknesses shooting so he's able to knock down shots which then opens it up the drive by the way don't on Demar Derozan who even though he's at the latter part is still one. They're freakishly most athletic talents. We've seen in the League for a while. He grabbed the rebound over our guy who seven one he may he never be in midseason born but look at him at this being his. I guess you're saying that you wanted to see was that. He's totally physically back from injury. That's fine maybe maybe I would agree with you. He has more go and J not basketball shape. Really what I'm looking for is how do you adjust to the pro game. When they do pack the paint when they dare you to shoot do rush? It is the moment to big. When do you look for the open man? He has a high basketball pressure. All I'm asking Y'all all to accept the fact that this to me is not a discussion about his basketball. I'm not questioning not questioning anything about that. What I'm saying is at the start Oughta game last night? Mark Jackson poured it out. He looked a little out of shape which was a little couple and then he said he looked a little heavy and to me he looked a little gimpy. Be What I'm talking about looking for him and for my health perspective that all I cared about. I didn't care about anything. 'cause I knew what else in quite common I did I did. I didn't say from three. I'm talking about in terms of his willingness to attack. I'm looking at a guy that for. For example he went out. He came back when he was at Duke. You're talking about golf for national championship when he went up against central Florida. What he showed up in the elite eight as well etc.? I'm looking you can get this guy and I don't have any questions about his composure. I wasn't worried about that. I'm looking at them from a health standpoint his ability to move with the basketball his activity and I know that's going to come all I'm saying is that's what I was looking for. That's all I was looking at times. I think he moved a little bit gingerly by the way Donald. Ginger Lee runs like that though Stephen. That's the way I mean a little bit heavier up top asking you asked me what would have been impressive for Stephen. A Smith on Ziya Williams his first game back after missing three even at four months does if I saw Zion like I saw in the Summer League in terms of his veracity and his willingness to attack. That's what I saw the fourth qua. I am not having a conversation the station with y'all about this guy's level of productivity. I'm talking about being in attack mode the way that I am accustomed to seeing them. That's all talking about. Who could he? The side one for thirteen. But that brother was for Roche's as hell he was gonna be ferocious you the Dan he hit four. Yeah he's in the fourth quarter. The weakest part of his game at shooting and he did that very night. Toss I twenty two all right to be looking at any time out too long. How do you judge judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's my Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college. College and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news.

basketball Stephen Zion Zion Williamson Jay Williams Max Kellerman Dianne Williamson Ziya Williams NBA Stephen a Smith New Orleans Patrick Mahomes giants Lebron James Demar Derozan Bloomberg manning Entrepreneur Bloomberg Mark Jackson
"jay williams max kellerman" Discussed on First Take

First Take

07:32 min | 1 year ago

"jay williams max kellerman" Discussed on First Take

"Free offer contingent on subscription, pay shipping and handling cancel anytime. Message and data rates may apply to become okay for men to be Lazier softer fatter. We need to bring the men of this country back to greatness, and it's easier than ever with ageless male max a patent pending formula with an ingredient that helps boost your total testosterone promoting greater increases in muscle size and twice the reduction of body fat percentage that exercise alone. Plus an amazing sixty four percent increase in nitric oxide, which can be handy in the gym and in the bedroom. Take your manhood to the max by trying your first thirty day bottle free. When you text the word Avs to seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine finally a formula that boosts total testosterone if you'll results with ageless male max or two in tents, please decrease us for your free bottle text adds to seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine text AB ABS to seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine. Everybody will come into I take on Monday. Hope you all had a fabulous weekend. Stephen smith. Jay Williams, max Kellerman, Molly, Kerem guy. Studio grinding. Get the hell of a job by all. The y'all all y'all spent a lot of fun this not for Zion. Williamson and one of the most heralded teams and years at their tournament. Run come to an end in the elite eight your squad. What's the deal likely, ending the college careers of blue devil? Freshman star Zayn Williamson RJ Barrick, reddish all projected as lottery picks in the NBA draft. Stephen how disappointing was this a loss for Duke sees as a failure? I know that's not popular to say. Because even wanna look at kids, and we certainly wanna be nice about that. They're college kids did not pros. We get all of that. But you know, what my whole listen there's nothing that takes away Zion did fail this. But so much more e could do he showed up and showed out even though inexplicably. He took a by one shot in the last two minutes, and certainly didn't take the last shot when he can most I'm looking coach K for something like that. But overall, I think we have to look at it from the standpoint that the disappointment is. Is so palpable. I can use the word failure. You don't go to Duke and have the conta- program that they have with the kind of players that they have we talk about Kentucky and Cal in terms of the plays that he recruited because they all seem to have gone to Duke Zion. RJ Cam reddish trade Jones and low and behold here you are and you don't even make the final four you ain't going to Duke for conference championships. Matter of fact, they had lost ACC championship. We wouldn't a kid if they were in the final four, you go to do a you recruit the kind of players that you recruit with the expectation that you're going to deliver the goods mean you're going to get to the final four. Now, they lost to a team that I believe should have been a number one scene. They lost to a team that shouldn't have been a number two seed to begin with. I would have preferred to see this matchup and a final thought. Michigan state got home. They should have been Gonzaga's region. Okay. And they should have been leading Duke next weekend instead of yesterday. But that's not what happened and at the end of the day when you look at Duke, I just said to my. Stuff. I walked away in the biggest disappointment to me is Cam reddish that third wheel. That is max you somebody that continuously praises that third. His Kevin love and Cleveland, Chris Bosh Miami before they're that third wheel matters when you got RJ even when she was a bit more epidemic, which he learned how to use that. Right. Because we all know he's gonna use his left hand the bottom line is he putting some points. He did his job for the most part Zion was a monster for the most part trade journals other than his one game can shoot can't shoot to save his life. He needs to stay got to work on that Jayme. But cameras his athleticism his ability to shoot the ball is height. There is no excuse to be as impotent offensively as he has been but vast majority of this game and don't even get me started with how how did he not play in the Sweet Sixteen mex-? They saw in J. They showed how lights him jumping around with the was it the Duke, I g pages something he was jumping around before the game. Then the next thing, you know, wasn't available. I'm like what the hell is this? And then he didn't start yesterday, which means it had to be residue for whatever transpired before the Sweet Sixteen game. And then he comes shoots to for. That's a problem. The better team wants, you know, why because they were a team. Whereas with Duke, you had somebody you had a program putting the weight of it showed us all on Zion. Williamson and it wasn't enough against this. They should've they should've put more weight on on shoulders. They probably events. This season. Of course was a disappointment. The question is how disappointing I don't think. It's quite as disappointing. As you do I think that in a one and done tournament you can have certain expectations. But you can never say that team against the field. If they don't win the whole thing that's a bad season. It's the nature of one in Duns. We see the best team in the NBA lose to the to the worst team in the NBA. Let alone lose a playoff game to an inferior team that can happen. But when every games the game seven that's the ad you, go home. If you if you lose. So that said what would have been okay for Duke to me they had to make the final four. They if they were final fourteen I could say, look, that's a push. If you get to the finals, it's not the ultimate success. But you can say look they made the finals, you know, fab five UNLV the year, they went undefeated ninety one running rebels, but they still made, you know, you get to a certain place. You get knocked out in the elite eight as you said Kentucky to me that's a credit to Kentucky. 'cause all the recruits went to Duke the top guys all went to Cal got him as far as as coach K did. So it is of course, a disappointment where it ranks like all time disappointments by one round I'd say this was a bad season by around and keep it at that. Can I take you guys inside? I said if somebody who is extremely competitive, and as an athlete as former maverick later, I do do I played three years at school. We were we failed two out of three years. But that one year we were success we want to championship. And I know sometimes it's fans, but we want to talk about it. We want to articulate nuances about disappointing. But all that. But look, Molly, you have conversation with Jay rose all time. But we remember our losses way more than we remember our wins. So for me to take you internally about how I feel about this. It's like end up your RJ resign now, they preach brotherhood. And that is what happens on the court. But there's certain things that have to make you think and wonder what if what if we were fully all together. What have we had candidates that played way that we knew Cam could play? And I something had to happen there. I've never seen coach cabinet watching him since I've been seventeen years old. I am thirty seven twenty years. Okay. I never seen him be shocked b. Shocked before Sweet Sixteen game in the middle of a game. That one of his best players isn't gonna play a never seen that people were what does that do to a team internally? If you're RJ of yours on how do you not look at somebody individually? You just can't go right now, you can't go when we need you right now, we need you to go. How does that trickle on? How does it affect your team? Overall psyche of your team. That's troubling to me. Now, look. It. It's it's unfortunate because they

Duke Zayn Williamson RJ Barrick Zion NBA Stephen smith Duke Zion Kentucky Jay Williams testosterone Molly Cam reddish max Kellerman ACC Michigan Duns UNLV